Giant Earthquake in Chile

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A gigantic earthquake struck Chile this morning — magnitude 8.8.

Tsunami waves are expected to reach Hawaii in about three hours…

TALCA, Chile — One of the strongest earthquakes ever recorded struck Chile on Saturday, toppling homes, collapsing bridges and plunging trucks into the fractured earth. A tsunami set off by the magnitude-8.8 quake threatened every nation around the Pacific Ocean - roughly a quarter of the globe.

Chileans near the epicenter were tossed about as if shaken by a giant.

It was the strongest earthquake to hit Chile in 50 years. President-elect Sebastian Pinera said more than 120 people died, a number that was rising quickly.

The quake shook buildings in Argentina’s capital of Buenos Aires, and was felt as far away as Sao Paulo in Brazil - 1,800 miles (2,900 kilometers) to the east. …

The jolt set off a tsunami that raced across the Pacific, setting off alarm sirens in Hawaii, Polynesia and Tonga. Tahitian officials banned all traffic on roads less than 1,600 feet (500 meters) from the sea and people in several low-lying island nations were urged to find higher ground.

Hawaii could face its largest waves since 1964 starting at 11:19 a.m. (4:19 p.m. EST, 2119 GMT), according to Charles McCreery, director of the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center. Officials evacuated people and boats near the water and closed shore-side Hilo International Airport.

Experts said tsunami waves were likely to hit Asian, Australian and New Zealand shores within 24 hours of the earthquake. The U.S. West Coast and Alaska, too, were threatened. In all, 53 nations and territories were subject to tsunami warnings.

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229 comments
1 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:17:53am

Here is some more information.
[Link: online.wsj.com...]

2 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:18:00am

My thoughts and prayers go out to the Chilean people.

3 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:18:12am

Just spoke with a contact I have at UNIVISION who has a reporter in the field in Chili ,,,

Lots of damage and death toll is now around 350

4 Randall Gross  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:18:22am

My wife heard reports that French Polynesia saw 6 ft waves, so let's hope it's not huge as it hits Hawaii. Southern coastal Chile still has many areas incommunicado, and low lying beach areas were teaming with touristas since it's the end of Summer down there.

5 Cato the Elder  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:18:27am

Gaia is getting set to slough us off like burrs off a dog.

6 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:18:53am
7 jaunte  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:19:06am

Forum poster in Oahu:

This should make for an interesting day - sirens went off at 6:00am (and you don't sleep thru those) outside my window (I'm in a high rise condo in Hawaii Kai/East Oahu) the traffic is multiple blocks long just to get to the gas station and stores are already limiting what you can buy...hotels on Waikiki evacuating to at least 3rd floor.....I'd expect airport problems.[Link: www.flyertalk.com...]
8 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:19:32am

re: #3 sattv4u2

Just spoke with a contact I have at UNIVISION who has a reporter in the field in Chili ,,,

Lots of damage and death toll is now around 350

CNN is still reporting 120+.

9 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:19:39am

re: #2 Taqyia2Me

Same here. I saw a picture of a collasped highway. OMG

10 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:19:44am

re: #3 sattv4u2

Just spoke with a contact I have at UNIVISION who has a reporter in the field in Chili ,,,

Lots of damage and death toll is now around 350

Wasn't the Earthquake about a 1000 times stronger than Haiti?
Building codes save lives

11 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:20:42am

re: #10 HoosierHoops

Wasn't the Earthquake about a 1000 times stronger than Haiti?
Building codes save lives

Just under a 9 according to Univision.

12 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:20:59am

re: #10 HoosierHoops

I think so, the scale they use to measure the intensity tracks logrithmic (sp) progression.

13 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:21:02am

re: #10 HoosierHoops

That they do.

14 Randall Gross  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:21:24am

I remember seeing where the Tsunami hit Valdez Ak after the great quake in Prince William sound - there was nothing but concrete pads there. That's how Tsunami monuments look. Bare concrete pads.

15 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:21:42am

re: #8 MandyManners

CNN is still reporting 120+.

UniVision has a field office in Chili. I talk to their people in Miami, but they're talking directly to their Chili reporters

16 S.D.  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:22:15am

Horrible, my thoughts and prayers to the victims.
Thankfully, Chile is better prepared (infrastructure wise) for a disaster.

17 Irenicum  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:22:23am

I can't conceive what an earthquake that large would even be like. Unbelievable. The CHileans need our prayers and help.

18 Opal  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:22:26am

Have been watching coverage of this since 9 a.m. EST. This was a big quake, very damaging, but thankfully was not in a major population center. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone affected and to those who are in the tsunami warning areas.

19 Randall Gross  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:22:35am

We won't know the true death toll for a week or more I would wager.

20 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:22:37am

Store shelves are being stripped in Hawaii.

21 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:23:19am

re: #20 MandyManners

I read that on Yahoo earlier.

22 Randall Gross  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:23:20am

PZ has a map of the quake energy dispersion across the Pacific plate here :

[Link: scienceblogs.com...]

23 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:23:21am

re: #8 MandyManners

re: #15 sattv4u2

UniVision has a field office in Chili. I talk to their people in Miami, but they're talking directly to their Chili reporters

(continued) ,,, once their people in Chili can get a satellite link going, i'll start getting raw footage from them to pass on to UniVision Miami via fiber

24 Kronocide  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:23:38am

It's insane here: I tried to go get gas and a cup of coffee, went back home at the first intersection, just crammed.
Cell phones are already buggy.

25 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:24:37am

re: #18 Opal

Have been watching coverage of this since 9 a.m. EST. This was a big quake, very damaging, but thankfully was not in a major population center. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone affected and to those who are in the tsunami warning areas.

What...

"This is a major event. This happened near some very populated areas," said Randy Baldwin, a geophysicist with the U.S. Geological Survey. "With an 8.8, you expect damage to the population in the area."

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

26 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:24:52am

re: #22 Thanos

That is a wide area that can feel something from the quake

27 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:25:23am

re: #24 BigPapa

It's insane here: I tried to go get gas and a cup of coffee, went back home at the first intersection, just crammed.
Cell phones are already buggy.

Over-load?

28 Randall Gross  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:25:37am

re: #26 PhillyPretzel

That is a wide area that can feel something from the quake

Another reason to support earthquake and volcano monitoring.

29 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:26:30am

re: #28 Thanos

Yes it is.

30 Surabaya Stew  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:26:34am

re: #10 HoosierHoops

Wasn't the Earthquake about a 1000 times stronger than Haiti?
Building codes save lives

Correct! Also, there's the fact that earthquakes are a fact of life in Chile and all citizens are trained in emergency preparations. By contrast, no earthquakes had struck Haiti in a couple of centuries and nobody there ever thought about it. Just think what would happen if an earthquake happens on the East Coast rather than the West....

31 Kronocide  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:26:54am

re: #27 MandyManners

Over-load?

Oh yeah. Last earth quake on the Big Island caused overload from people calling into Hawaii.

My wife was on the phone for 45 min until I yelled at her to get off.

32 Political Atheist  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:27:07am

re: #23 sattv4u2

CNN has had great coverage all morning. Looks like a large area that shook rather than a smaller area intensely to get that 8.8, CNN actually just went through the area/intensity math on their big board.

33 Randall Gross  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:28:23am

re: #31 BigPapa

Oh yeah. Last earth quake on the Big Island caused overload from people calling into Hawaii.

My wife was on the phone for 45 min until I yelled at her to get off.

I was trying to pull up some beach web cams earlier and gave up -- teh innernetz is jammed up out there.

34 austin_blue  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:28:26am

Whoa. This one will be a long-distance killer. The mechanics are very similar to the Indonesian quake. From the USGS:


EVALUATION

A TSUNAMI HAS BEEN GENERATED THAT COULD CAUSE DAMAGE ALONG
COASTLINES OF ALL ISLANDS IN THE STATE OF HAWAII. URGENT ACTION
SHOULD BE TAKEN TO PROTECT LIVES AND PROPERTY.

A TSUNAMI IS A SERIES OF LONG OCEAN WAVES. EACH INDIVIDUAL WAVE
CREST CAN LAST 5 TO 15 MINUTES OR MORE AND EXTENSIVELY FLOOD
COASTAL AREAS. THE DANGER CAN CONTINUE FOR MANY HOURS AFTER THE
INITIAL WAVE AS SUBSEQUENT WAVES ARRIVE. TSUNAMI WAVE HEIGHTS
CANNOT BE PREDICTED AND THE FIRST WAVE MAY NOT BE THE LARGEST.
TSUNAMI WAVES EFFICIENTLY WRAP AROUND ISLANDS. ALL SHORES ARE AT
RISK NO MATTER WHICH DIRECTION THEY FACE. THE TROUGH OF A TSUNAMI
WAVE MAY TEMPORARILY EXPOSE THE SEAFLOOR BUT THE AREA WILL
QUICKLY FLOOD AGAIN. EXTREMELY STRONG AND UNUSUAL NEARSHORE
CURRENTS CAN ACCOMPANY A TSUNAMI. DEBRIS PICKED UP AND CARRIED
BY A TSUNAMI AMPLIFIES ITS DESTRUCTIVE POWER. SIMULTANEOUS HIGH
TIDES OR HIGH SURF CAN SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE THE TSUNAMI HAZARD.

THE ESTIMATED ARRIVAL TIME IN HAWAII OF THE FIRST TSUNAMI WAVE IS

1105 AM HST SAT 27 FEB 2010

MESSAGES WILL BE ISSUED HOURLY OR SOONER AS CONDITIONS WARRANT.

35 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:28:36am

re: #32 Rightwingconspirator

CNN has had great coverage all morning. Looks like a large area that shook rather than a smaller area intensely to get that 8.8, CNN actually just went through the area/intensity math on their big board.

yeah ,, I have CNN up on a monitor here (at work)

Coverage has been good. I'll have raw footage from Chili within the hour

36 Political Atheist  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:28:37am

I'd love to see the mid ocean buoy data. I wonder if California will even get a swell.

37 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:28:52am

re: #10 HoosierHoops

Wasn't the Earthquake about a 1000 times stronger than Haiti?
Building codes save lives

It also helps when you don't have eight times as many people stuffed into an area as it was designed for.

38 Cato the Elder  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:29:04am

If there was ever a time for prayer, good thoughts, lighting candles or burning incense, this is it.

39 jaunte  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:29:14am

re: #22 Thanos

PZ has a map of the quake energy dispersion across the Pacific plate here :

[Link: scienceblogs.com...]

That has a list of tsunami arrival times for the west coast all the way up to Alaska:
[Link: wcatwc.arh.noaa.gov...]

40 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:29:34am

re: #38 Cato the Elder

If there was ever a time for prayer, good thoughts, lighting candles or burning incense, this is it.

Amen, Cato!

41 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:29:42am

re: #38 Cato the Elder

Yes it is.

42 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:29:42am

re: #31 BigPapa

I don't know if I could live in Hawaii 'cause there's no where to go.

43 Randall Gross  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:30:10am

re: #32 Rightwingconspirator

CNN has had great coverage all morning. Looks like a large area that shook rather than a smaller area intensely to get that 8.8, CNN actually just went through the area/intensity math on their big board.

I was awake this am when the quake happened and have to credit CNN with the best coverage. Fox was running canned replays of Hannity bloviating about killer whales while CNN was gathering facts and showing live footage. The interview with their bureau chief was great, he told about how he got thrown right out of bed.

44 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:30:24am

re: #42 MandyManners

Diamond Head would probably be safe.

If not, biiig problems.

45 Political Atheist  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:30:24am

re: #36 Rightwingconspirator

I'd love to see the mid ocean buoy data. I wonder if California will even get a swell.


Buoy Data!
[Link: www.ndbc.noaa.gov...]

46 Political Atheist  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:30:56am

re: #39 jaunte

That server has been hard to get to, overwhelmed I'm sure.

47 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:31:10am

re: #34 austin_blue

I hope people are paying attention to those warnings.

48 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:31:33am

HAWAII Governor speaking on The Weather Channel

49 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:31:37am

re: #24 BigPapa

It's insane here: I tried to go get gas and a cup of coffee, went back home at the first intersection, just crammed.
Cell phones are already buggy.

Be well and safe...
I was working for the DOD at Pearl Harbor for this Hurricane:
September 1992: Hurricane Iniki was likely the worst hurricane ever to affect Hawaiʻi.

The commander ordered all the Submarines to sit on the bottom of the sea..
I was doing some reactor work on the SSN 646 Grayling at the time..We sat down stairs during the storm...

50 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:31:49am

re: #47 PhillyPretzel

I hope people are paying attention to those warnings.

I'm tempted to make a crack about Darwin but I won't.

51 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:33:16am

re: #49 HoosierHoops

That seems like the safest place to me.

52 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:33:20am

I've got $1 that says the Alex Jones crowd already has a conspiracy theory scenario all mapped out. It probably has something to do with Obama trying to destroy his birth certificate records or something.

That may sound like I'm kidding, but those same assholes tossed around the idea that the 2004 tsunami in Indonesia was caused by the US / Israel / whoever detonating a "micro-nuke" underwater -- despite the fact that the earthquake that caused the tsunami released energy equivalent to 550 MILLION Hiroshima bombs.

That's the Alex Jones being incrementally mainstreamed by the current US right wing, by the way.

53 Silvergirl  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:33:30am

re: #31 BigPapa

Oh yeah. Last earth quake on the Big Island caused overload from people calling into Hawaii.

My wife was on the phone for 45 min until I yelled at her to get off.

BigPapa, I'm looking for all your comments to know you're still posting. What's the story on evacuation? My sister, BIL, nieces and nephews all live on the Big Island. I emailed and have called twice with no answer.

54 Political Atheist  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:33:51am

re: #49 HoosierHoops

Just sit on the bottom, not just cruise deep?

55 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:34:19am

re: #50 MandyManners

About me? Believe me I have heard quite of bit. I could be banned if I printed it in here. :(

56 jaunte  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:34:30am

re: #53 Silvergirl

The WSJ article says:

In Hilo, most of the area's 50,000 residents live on ground high enough to escape much damage from a tsunami. The area of greatest concern is a coastal plain around Hilo Bay where the Keaukaha subdivision by the international airport is located, as well as downtown Hilo.
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
57 austin_blue  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:34:41am

re: #37 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It also helps when you don't have eight times as many people stuffed into an area as it was designed for.

FBV-

Yes, but the mechanics are very different. Haiti was a strike-slip fault, like the San Andreas, so most of the energy is lateral (Port-au-Prince had lateral acceleration of >10 feet/second). This is a dip-slip, or thrust fault, like Indonesia. Most of the energy is vertical. Imagine taking the entire California coast from San Diego to San Francisco and snapping it *up* eighty feet. That's what this was.

Nasty bugger and a real tsunami generator.

58 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:35:17am

re: #54 Rightwingconspirator

Just sit on the bottom, not just cruise deep?

Just sit down..We were in the middle of repairs on the Westinghouse reactor..

59 austin_blue  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:35:52am

re: #47 PhillyPretzel

I hope people are paying attention to those warnings.

They will be. The last big Chilean quake in 1960 killed hundreds as far away as Japan.

60 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:35:59am

I'm holding my breath as I ask this question...

Hey guys... how poor is Chile?

61 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:36:26am

re: #55 PhillyPretzel

About me? Believe me I have heard quite of bit. I could be banned if I printed it in here. :(

No. About those who ignore tsunami warnings.

62 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:36:36am

re: #57 austin_blue

whoa.

63 Political Atheist  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:37:05am

re: #58 HoosierHoops

I guess a mid ocean sub would not even notice the tsunami swell as it goes by, or would it?

64 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:37:51am

re: #60 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm holding my breath as I ask this question...

Hey guys... how poor is Chile?

It's not Third World.

65 Randall Gross  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:39:08am

re: #57 austin_blue

FBV-

Yes, but the mechanics are very different. Haiti was a strike-slip fault, like the San Andreas, so most of the energy is lateral (Port-au-Prince had lateral acceleration of >10 feet/second). This is a dip-slip, or thrust fault, like Indonesia. Most of the energy is vertical. Imagine taking the entire California coast from San Diego to San Francisco and snapping it *up* eighty feet. That's what this was.

Nasty bugger and a real tsunami generator.

If the rise happened on the land side (typical for that area - why the Andes are so high) then it might not be as bad as the Indonesian quake, where the rising land was underwater. It's a subduction zone, so in theory there could have been a drop in undersea land where the quake occurred.

66 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:39:22am

re: #60 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Let's ask the magic 8 ball intertubes!

Economy of Chile

67 jaunte  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:40:24am

re: #60 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
They're ranked at 30 in the Global Competitiveness Report from the World Ecnmic forum. Israel is at 27.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

68 keloyd  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:40:38am

MSNBC says they've had building codes addressing earthquakes back to 1920. Chile is on the ball. They're about on the level of Russia or Poland demographically. They've dealt with earthquakes like this with pretty good skill for decades. They can handle disasters like this as well as anyone in Europe - and better than Louisiana.

In other news, Kenya Hawaii governor Linda Lingle mentioned they're ready too, except be ready for the raw sewage in the sewers to flow the wrong way, with some force, in the event of a large tsunami. I wouldn't have thought of staying away from manhole covers that could turn into fountains of sewage.

It just feels good seeing things running smoothly in extremis like this, like someone put the responsible adults in charge instead of the political clowns we usually see in the news.

A few words to The Almighty can't do any harm either.

69 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:41:40am

"This was a big one. A really big one,'' said Dr. Tim Dixon, geophysics professor at the Rosenstiel School of Marine and Atmospheric Science in Miami, speaking of the magnitude 8.8 earthquake that struck near Chile Saturday morning.

There would be no connection between the quake in Haiti and the one in Chile, since they involve different fault lines. Nor is it a harbinger of increased seismic activity around the globe -- except in Chile, which can expect aftershocks for days to come.

Sometimes earthquakes, like hurricanes, come in bunches, after periods of quiet.

How thunderous is 8.8 quake on the Richter scale? The energy released is between 500 and 900 times that of the magnitude 7.0 quake that hit Haiti on Jan. 12, he said. On the complex scale that measures earthquakes, an 8.0 quake releases 30 times the energy of a 7.0, and a 9.0 would release 30 times that, meaning 900 times more energy. An 8.8 would be somewhat less, Dixon said.

The amount of damage quakes cause depends in large part on the kinds of soils in which they take place, how close they are to populated areas and whether buildings have been put up to withstand earthquakes.

Saturday's earthquake near Chile took place along the ``Peru-Chile Trench''fault line that runs the length of South America about 80 miles offshore. It runs north past Central America and about halfway up Mexico, Dixon said.

It's part of the boundary between two massive tectonic plates -- the Nazca plate in the Pacific Ocean and the South American plate. The earth is divided into about a dozen big plates that constantly shift against each other, occasionally causing earthquakes.

In Haiti, the earthquake was on the Baranquillo fault line that starts in Jamaica and runs east through Haiti and into the Dominican Republic. It is a lateral fault, with two plates moving past each other side-to-side causing mostly lateral shaking in a quake.

In Chile, the quake was on a ``thrust fault,'' with the Pacific Ocean's Nazca plate diving down under the South American plate over geologic eons. The fault line is at the surface about 80 miles offshore. It then dives down under the continent, and is about 80 miles down by the time it runs underneath the Chilean capital of Santiago.

SNIP

70 Randall Gross  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:41:43am

I'm watching for an update on this from Highly Allochthonous, but they don't have one up yet, you can count on them to give great analysis on this.

71 celticdragon  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:42:27am

re: #57 austin_blue

FBV-

Yes, but the mechanics are very different. Haiti was a strike-slip fault, like the San Andreas, so most of the energy is lateral (Port-au-Prince had lateral acceleration of >10 feet/second). This is a dip-slip, or thrust fault, like Indonesia. Most of the energy is vertical. Imagine taking the entire California coast from San Diego to San Francisco and snapping it *up* eighty feet. That's what this was.

Nasty bugger and a real tsunami generator.

Not quite.

I have an over long posting about the mechanics of convergent plate tectonics here...

Scroll down to comment 119. Have some coffee with you, since I do get kinda pedantic.

72 Randall Gross  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:42:45am

re: #68 keloyd

What are you a secret Nirther?

73 keloyd  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:43:16am

re: #60 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm holding my breath as I ask this question...

Hey guys... how poor is Chile?

Chile is slightly above average economically. Here are a few measurements of income/development. If it's not controversial, I trust Wiki.

74 Kronocide  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:44:07am

re: #42 MandyManners

I don't know if I could live in Hawaii 'cause there's no where to go.

You could go to my house. I'm at 95' elevation. If there's any action I'll hear and see if from my house.

My wife is dealing with stress by shopping for purses online.

75 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:44:39am

re: #74 BigPapa

You could go to my house. I'm at 95' elevation. If there's any action I'll hear and see if from my house.

My wife is dealing with stress by shopping for purses online.

One can never have too many purses.

76 Randall Gross  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:44:53am

re: #74 BigPapa

You could go to my house. I'm at 95' elevation. If there's any action I'll hear and see if from my house.

My wife is dealing with stress by shopping for purses online.

Got a camera and a view of the beaches?

77 celticdragon  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:45:17am

re: #70 Thanos

I'm watching for an update on this from Highly Allochthonous, but they don't have one up yet, you can count on them to give great analysis on this.

Awesome blog!!

I may be bugging Anne Jefferson when I start hunting for my Masters program in geology here in North Carolina.

78 Buck  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:45:31am

re: #52 negativ

That's the Alex Jones being incrementally mainstreamed by the current US right wing, by the way.

And when the conspiracy is Truther, or Bush stole the election, or the Israel Lobby, or the White House Forged TANG/CBS memos.... I could go on pages....

Those was mainstreamed by the left wing.... by the way.

79 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:45:59am

re: #74 BigPapa

My prayers are with you. Be ready to go as soon as you need to.

80 Silvergirl  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:46:26am

re: #38 Cato the Elder

If there was ever a time for prayer, good thoughts, lighting candles or burning incense, this is it.

Yes, it is. When family is in the path of a tsunami, it makes a person sit up and take notice. It makes me feel a little like Joe Keller in Miller's All My Sons. All the people in harm's way--they're all our "sons."

81 Kronocide  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:46:31am

re: #76 Thanos

Got a camera and a view of the beaches?

Not a direct view but I have a camera. The local news just let slip they're on Twitter.

I'll feed you some pics in a little bit....

82 Buck  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:46:42am

re: #74 BigPapa

You could go to my house. I'm at 95' elevation. If there's any action I'll hear and see if from my house.

My wife is dealing with stress by shopping for purses online.

Set up video. A good video will be worth $$$$ on Youtube.

83 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:46:48am

re: #63 Rightwingconspirator

I guess a mid ocean sub would not even notice the tsunami swell as it goes by, or would it?

I spent 20 years working on Nuclear reactors for Subs for the US Navy..
I have done 5 test dives in 688 Subs...
It is the most terrifying and fun things you will ever experience in your life..
When the hatch at the top of the sail is latched and you dive....You are freaking out inside...When the HY-100 Steel begins to compress and make creepy sounds in a deep dive I swear you are holding your balls...
you spend hours with a flashlight looking for leaks or issues at the inner Hull..
You have to have balls to dive to 1200 feet in a newly refurbed sub..

84 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:46:51am

re: #68 keloyd

99% good post.

The one percent really hurt it though.

85 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:49:16am

re: #84 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

99% good post.

The one percent really hurt it though.

Tongue-in-cheek, I think.

86 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:49:26am

re: #83 HoosierHoops

You have to have balls to dive to 1200 feet in a newly refurbed sub..

Seems to me that if you are on it, not driving it, and the hatch is closed... ain't got much of a choice. You have to be as brave as the sumbitch driving...

87 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:49:37am

re: #85 MandyManners

I hope.

88 recusancy  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:50:01am

I was just reading about the busy geology of Chile a few days ago in this Nat Geo article.

89 Kronocide  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:50:12am

re: #83 HoosierHoops

Submariner upding! Nothing like flying into Oahu over a sub coming into port.....

90 keloyd  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:50:27am

re: #84 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

99% good post.

The one percent really hurt it though.

Bah, if you can't write " Kenya Hawaii governor Lingle..." then the culture of the internet is too thin skinned and neurotic. For the record, I was born in Hawaii, and my "birth certificate" has every quirk that Obama's has. I get a kick out the whole nirther thing. Certain neurotics and 12 year olds don't get the joke, but that's not my problem.

91 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:52:00am

re: #90 keloyd

Bah, if you can't write " Kenya Hawaii governor Lingle..." then the culture of the internet is too thin skinned and neurotic. For the record, I was born in Hawaii, and my "birth certificate" has every quirk that Obama's has. I get a kick out the whole nirther thing. Certain neurotics and 12 year olds don't get the joke, but that's not my problem.

No kidding.

92 Silvergirl  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:52:44am

I just got emails from sister and niece.

We are fine. We are one block past the evacuation area, and if it hits the east side of our island we will see it. We are all here together with the exception of N. who is in a safer area. They are evacuating everyone one block from our house. Not to worry!

and

Aloha,
We do not have to evacuate. We just happen to be 2 streets from the tsunami evacuation point. It's scheduled to hit us at 11:19. That's the first wave.

93 Randall Gross  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:53:07am

Just call me neurotic then.

94 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:53:29am

re: #89 BigPapa

Submariner upding! Nothing like flying into Oahu over a sub coming into port...

3 years on the Arco at Pearl Bro!
Fix those Subs boys and girls!
I loved that job...

95 austin_blue  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:53:54am

re: #71 celticdragon

Not quite.

I have an over long posting about the mechanics of convergent plate tectonics here...

Scroll down to comment 119. Have some coffee with you, since I do get kinda pedantic.

Fellow geologist?

I was giving the Cliff's Notes version. Yours is great!

96 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:54:39am

re: #92 Silvergirl

My prayers are with them and everyone else in the path of the wave.

97 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:54:53am

mumble mumble something called "seismic monitoring" mumble mumble.

98 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:58:19am

I know I'm late to the thread, but a prayer knows no time. They have mine.

99 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:58:20am

Obama speaking about the quake now.

100 Political Atheist  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:58:42am

re: #83 HoosierHoops

I can not really imagine. You guys do a hello of a job. I think I would be more comfortable in a high performance aircraft than submarine though. My control freak factor is proportional to my ability to see and assess.

101 Surabaya Stew  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:58:55am

re: #60 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm holding my breath as I ask this question...

Hey guys... how poor is Chile?

Walking around Santiago for 12 days back in 1996, it seemed like a first world country to me. Talking a bus from the Peru-Chile border and back, not so much.

102 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:00:23am

re: #99 wrenchwench

That's all well and good, but I'm waiting for Pat Robertson to tell me how Chile or Hawaii managed to piss off God this time.

103 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:00:25am

Does anyone have a decent time-zone converter?

104 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:01:16am

re: #103 MandyManners

[Link: www.worldtimezone.com...]

105 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:01:45am

re: #103 MandyManners

Does anyone have a decent time-zone converter?

Actually, look in your phone book.

106 Randall Gross  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:02:17am

re: #103 MandyManners

[Link: www.worldtimezone.com...]

107 Political Atheist  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:02:18am

We will get a good clue here when this buoy gets hit in about 45 minutes.

[Link: www.ndbc.noaa.gov...]

108 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:02:23am

re: #105 Cannadian Club Akbar

Actually, look in your phone book.

Or see #104.:)

109 The Sanity Inspector  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:02:29am

The NOAA Pacific Tsunami Warning Center's Hawaii page:

[Link: www.prh.noaa.gov...]

110 celticdragon  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:02:47am

re: #95 austin_blue

Fellow geologist?

I was giving the Cliff's Notes version. Yours is great!

Thanks! I am a senior in geology at Guilford College, and will be scouting out Masters programs in the near future :)

111 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:02:50am

re: #102 negativ

That's all well and good, but I'm waiting for Pat Robertson to tell me how Chile or Hawaii managed to piss off God this time.

Robertson Claims “God Even Angrier with Chile than Haiti”

112 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:04:08am

re: #90 keloyd

joke? okay.

113 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:04:33am

re: #104 negativ

[Link: www.worldtimezone.com...]

re: #106 Thanos

[Link: www.worldtimezone.com...]

Thanks!

114 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:04:45am

re: #111 Walter L. Newton

Robertson Claims “God Even Angrier with Chile than Haiti”

I'm making a Dbag list. He is on it. I think he might get the top spot.

115 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:05:02am

re: #105 Cannadian Club Akbar

Actually, look in your phone book.

Internet is easier.

Sorry, Ma Bell.

116 Racer X  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:05:15am

re: #111 Walter L. Newton

Robertson Claims “God Even Angrier with Chile than Haiti”

"500 times" angrier. Heh.

117 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:05:24am

re: #90 keloyd

Running with assumptions that everybody knows you very well. That's all. If it was a joke (little hints help)... It's all good.

118 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:05:37am

re: #111 Walter L. Newton

This is why we have Poe's Law.

119 Buck  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:06:05am

re: #83 HoosierHoops

.When the HY-100 Steel begins to compress and make creepy sounds in a deep dive I swear you are holding your balls...

We know more about space than we do the ocean trenches. Now that NASA is losing it's momentum, and people are more focused on local climate, maybe that will reverse.

120 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:06:08am
121 Randall Gross  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:06:30am

re: #114 Cannadian Club Akbar

Think it's Satire, but I'm not sure because I'm neurotic ya know

122 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:06:39am

re: #91 Walter L. Newton

No kidding.

Oh ,, you denier/birther/concern troll

123 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:06:48am

re: #115 MandyManners

Internet is easier.

Sorry, Ma Bell.

The internet is just a fad.
/

124 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:07:22am

re: #123 Cannadian Club Akbar

The internet is just a fad.
/

I'm keeping my stocks in buggy-whips.

125 windsagio  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:07:50am

re: #124 MandyManners

They have such good auxiliary uses >>

126 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:08:03am

re: #124 MandyManners

I'm keeping my stocks in buggy-whips.

in bed

127 The Sanity Inspector  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:08:03am
128 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:08:17am

re: #124 MandyManners

I'm keeping my stocks in buggy-whips.

Whips? We should meet.
/

129 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:08:26am

re: #123 Cannadian Club Akbar

LOL That is why I am still getting a hard copy of The Wall Street Journal delivered to the house.

130 Randall Gross  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:08:41am

re: #121 Thanos

Think it's Satire, but I'm not sure because I'm neurotic ya know

No it's not satire

[Link: trueslant.com...]

131 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:09:23am

re: #100 Rightwingconspirator

I can not really imagine. You guys do a hello of a job. I think I would be more comfortable in a high performance aircraft than submarine though. My control freak factor is proportional to my ability to see and assess.

My dear friend.. when Clinton closed MINSY and trashed thousands of Nuclear workers I was terrified...I mean who needs a nuclear worker stats on the resume? Nobody...Jeez I can lay on the bundle in Air fed.. so what?
Lucky for me I got hired by one of the biggest companies in the world..
Fuck you Bill Clinton...You threw 15,000 people to the wind.. How do you like me now?
*wink*

132 celticdragon  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:09:31am

re: #111 Walter L. Newton

Robertson Claims “God Even Angrier with Chile than Haiti”

Will no one rid me of this troublesome lack-witted medieval idiot of a priest??!!

133 celticdragon  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:10:04am

re: #124 MandyManners

I'm keeping my stocks in buggy-whips.

Hmm...

Sounds like fun ;)

134 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:10:47am

re: #132 celticdragon

LOL That is a oldie but goodie.

135 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:10:47am

re: #131 HoosierHoops

My dear friend.. when Clinton closed MINSY and trashed thousands of Nuclear workers I was terrified...I mean who needs a nuclear worker stats on the resume? Nobody...Jeez I can lay on the bundle in Air fed.. so what?
Lucky for me I got hired by one of the biggest companies in the world..
Fuck you Bill Clinton...You threw 15,000 people to the wind.. How do you like me now?
*wink*

Ding.

136 Randall Gross  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:11:15am

Here's more on Robertson

[Link: open.salon.com...]


but ... this still could be satire....

137 Buck  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:11:34am

re: #124 MandyManners

I'm keeping my stocks in buggy-whips.

Cathode Ray Tube televisions and Silver Nitrate negative film factories.

138 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:12:08am

re: #132 celticdragon

Will no one rid me of this troublesome lack-witted medieval idiot of a priest??!!

Will you read the link before speaking?

139 windsagio  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:12:22am

re: #131 HoosierHoops

are you kidding? My old companies bread and butter was placing nukes just coming out ot the service into companies. Maybe it was a '90s vs. '00s thing tho'

140 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:13:28am

re: #136 Thanos

Here's more on Robertson

[Link: open.salon.com...]

but ... this still could be satire...

How the hell would you know?

141 Political Atheist  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:13:58am

re: #131 HoosierHoops

Holy smokes. I had forgotten all about that. Never should have happened.

142 austin_blue  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:14:06am

Errands. BBIAB for the big show.

143 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:14:46am

re: #137 Buck

I only recently gave up my precious silver nitrate, and with much wailing and gnashing of teeth, let me tell you.

In fact, I still have several rolls of Ilford ISO 400 120 in the freezer, where they have been and will probably continue to be for years. =(

144 celticdragon  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:14:49am

re: #138 Walter L. Newton

Will you read the link before speaking?

LOL, I did. Satire or not, my sentiment is the same, heh!

145 keloyd  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:15:14am

re: #117 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
It was a little joke, a very little joke, tiny.

Seriously, I am pleasantly surprised how well Chile is managing. They're the equal of anyone in Western Europe or Japan for dealing with this sort of thing. < 200 dead is really the best case scenario.

146 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:15:44am

re: #138 Walter L. Newton

Will you read the link before speaking?

Wha ,, and waste an absolutely perfect chance to rant !?!?!

147 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:15:45am

Currently they are only predicting about 10 foot waves to hit the Hawaiian Islands, lets hope that they are correct. That won't be enough to cause any major damage if it turns they are correct. Still it is good that they are evacuating low lying areas and getting prepared just in case it turns out to be worse than thought.

Isn't technology wonderful? Having notice that the wave is coming many hours ahead of time sure beats the old days when people would have been down at the beach unawares.

148 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:16:08am

re: #145 keloyd

Unless you're one of the 200.

149 Randall Gross  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:16:15am

re: #140 Walter L. Newton

How the hell would you know?

One of the tags is "satire" ?

150 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:16:44am

re: #148 negativ

Unless you're one of the 200.

ouch!

(or their freinds/relative)

151 Silvergirl  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:16:54am
152 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:17:17am

re: #147 ausador

Keep in mind that water weighs one ton per cubic yard/meter.

153 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:18:05am

BTW live stream of news and twitter feed from Hawaii courtesy of the Tsunami center here...

[Link: www.hawaiitsunami.com...]

154 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:18:08am

re: #149 Thanos

One of the tags is "satire" ?

False flag... designed to fool you.

155 Surabaya Stew  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:18:34am

re: #131 HoosierHoops

Fuck you Bill Clinton...You threw 15,000 people to the wind.. How do you like me now?
*wink*

Heh, up-ding for that line! Anyways, my move awaits; so I'll won't be back for a day or 2, but I promise to reply to you in depth by the middle of next week. Take care, y'all!

156 Racer X  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:18:49am

re: #147 ausador

Currently they are only predicting about 10 foot waves to hit the Hawaiian Islands, lets hope that they are correct. That won't be enough to cause any major damage if it turns they are correct. Still it is good that they are evacuating low lying areas and getting prepared just in case it turns out to be worse than thought.

Isn't technology wonderful? Having notice that the wave is coming many hours ahead of time sure beats the old days when people would have been down at the beach unawares.

I'm thinking a ten foot tsunami wave would do a heck of a lot of damage. They don't break on the surf line - they roll in like a steamroller, then drag everything back out with them.

157 celticdragon  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:18:58am

re: #146 sattv4u2

Wha ,, and waste an absolutely perfect chance to rant !?!?!

Why waste a good opportunity to make a joke out of a historical reference about Thomas Beckett?

158 Randall Gross  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:19:18am

re: #154 Walter L. Newton

False flag... designed to fool you.

They are tricksey with their metadatases! Sneaksy bloggerses!

159 Political Atheist  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:20:04am

Hey Hoosier, I suppose every submarine sonar guy in the pacific will hear the earthquake as the wave goes by. Imagine hearing it. I vividly remember the sound of the Northridge quake, along with all the weird sounds my apartment made. Creak crash and smashing glass.

160 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:20:16am

re: #147 ausador

Having notice that the wave is coming many hours ahead of time sure beats the old days when people would have been down at the beach unawares.

Unfortunately, you'll have the dillweeds that knowing whats coming will head down TO the beach for look see, then complain when either
A) they get hurt and nobody is there to help them
or
B) complain that the police blocked them from going there ("hey man ,,, it's free country, dude!!")

161 The Sanity Inspector  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:20:33am

re: #136 Thanos

Here's more on Robertson

[Link: open.salon.com...]

but ... this still could be satire...

Too Good To Check.

162 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:20:52am

re: #158 Thanos

They are tricksey with their metadatases! Sneaksy bloggerses!

Are you alright? What language is that?

163 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:21:08am

re: #151 Silvergirl

Hawaiian tsunami news

Beat me by two seconds lol

/I still call Jinx!

164 Randall Gross  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:21:46am

re: #162 Walter L. Newton

Are you alright? What language is that?

gollum.... gollum ... gollum

165 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:21:58am

re: #159 Rightwingconspirator

Would a submarine get jostled about some? I don't know how that works below the surface.

166 celticdragon  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:22:30am

re: #158 Thanos

They are tricksey with their metadatases! Sneaksy bloggerses!

We hates them!! Ahhhhgg! It burns us! Nasssty Elvish Koslings and their sneaksy postings!

167 The Sanity Inspector  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:23:16am

re: #151 Silvergirl

Hawaiian tsunami news

The thing I'm afraid of is that, with all this lead time, some groups of idiots are going to go swarming down to the shore to see the tsunami. It happened in New England last autumn, when a rare hurricane buffeted the coast. People went to the beach to look at the rough surf, like they were at the frickin' IMAX or something, and a little girl was swept away and drowned.

168 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:23:40am

re: #139 windsagio

are you kidding? My old companies bread and butter was placing nukes just coming out ot the service into companies. Maybe it was a '90s vs. '00s thing tho'

When the Gov't riffs you they normally offer you one position to move to..esp after 20 years with a top secret clearance..
You know what I was offered? A GS5 position with the CIA.. 10 dollars an hour in Virginia.. Fuck you.. I make 4x times that now laughing my ass off...
The United States Government invested a shit load of money into developing my talent as an Employee for us.. Then threw me away after the cold war with no grace...
/I'm not bitter for me..I made out well.. I'm bitter for America
Fuck you Bill....

169 celticdragon  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:23:41am

re: #162 Walter L. Newton

Are you alright? What language is that?

Lame!

Downding for lack of appropriate knowledge on Lord Of The Rings and Golum!

170 Silvergirl  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:24:27am

re: #169 celticdragon

Lame!

Downding for lack of appropriate knowledge on Lord Of The Rings and Golum!

Upding to offset.

171 Political Atheist  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:24:56am

re: #165 negativ

Just as an amateur guess, I'd expect the sound and a twitch for each swell in the depth/pressure readings. I hope to be able to read this chart at 11:44 pst. You have to scroll down to the "water column chart" that buoy also measures temperature etc.

172 windsagio  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:25:41am

re: #168 HoosierHoops

No, I meant civ jobs.


/and sorry, I didn't mena to make light of you getting screwed, its just I *know* how much we wanted to get our hands on the good nukes, and beat the other recruiters out.

... of course they had to be willing to work in like South Carolina. All the people at Bangor didn't want to move.

173 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:26:57am

re: #170 Silvergirl

Upding to offset.

Ditto to piss the downdinger off!!

174 Political Atheist  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:28:10am

re: #168 HoosierHoops

Ten bucks an hour? W..T.. F... is that? Sweeping up? They paid for ex Russian nuke guys to move here to support non proliferation and they off you ten bucks? OMG that is just scandalous.

175 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:28:55am

re: #169 celticdragon

Lame!

Downding for lack of appropriate knowledge on Lord Of The Rings and Golum!

FU.

You really did down ding me. Are you fucking drunk? Why am I suppose to know something about LOTR... that's why I fucking asked.

Jerk.

176 celticdragon  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:29:18am

re: #170 Silvergirl

Upding to offset.

Is it sweet, my Precious?

Is it tasty, Precious...?

Sssss...

Gollum sitting alone for so long...only fissshhes and goblinses to eat. How they squeek when we throttles them!


LOL! Enough for now. :)

177 Silvergirl  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:29:26am

re: #167 The Sanity Inspector

The thing I'm afraid of is that, with all this lead time, some groups of idiots are going to go swarming down to the shore to see the tsunami. It happened in New England last autumn, when a rare hurricane buffeted the coast. People went to the beach to look at the rough surf, like they were at the frickin' IMAX or something, and a little girl was swept away and drowned.

They were just emphasizing on the news I linked that this is not "a surfable wave" and they're trying to get people out of the water who are ready to try surfing it anyway.

178 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:30:27am

re: #170 Silvergirl

Upding to offset.

Thank... I fucking asked what Thanos was "speaking" and I fucking get down dinged by some jerk who is so fucking out of touch with reality and expects that everyone in the fucking world should be walking around with pointed ears and platinum hair.

179 windsagio  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:31:13am

re: #178 Walter L. Newton

dude, walter, who punched you in the balls this morning? The level of hostility is odd even for you >>

180 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:31:43am

re: #179 windsagio

dude, walter, who punched you in the balls this morning? The level of hostility is odd even for you >>

Tough.

181 celticdragon  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:31:52am

re: #175 Walter L. Newton

FU.

You really did down ding me. Are you fucking drunk? Why am I suppose to know something about LOTR... that's why I fucking asked.

Jerk.

You have a karma of over 25,000. If it upsets you that much, I'll take it off.

Damn. Get real. This isn't reality. It's just a comment board.

182 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:32:07am

re: #175 Walter L. Newton

FU.

You really did down ding me. Are you fucking drunk? Why am I suppose to know something about LOTR... that's why I fucking asked.

Jerk.

We have to know all those things if we want to be one of the "cool kids" !

183 windsagio  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:33:00am

re: #181 celticdragon

Dinging is serious serious business!

184 celticdragon  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:33:15am

re: #180 Walter L. Newton

Tough.

It's off. Go sulk about something else. Christ.

185 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:34:21am

re: #181 celticdragon

You have a karma of over 25,000. If it upsets you that much, I'll take it off.

Damn. Get real. This isn't reality. It's just a comment board.

You really don't understand squat, do you. It's not the ding, it's the fact that you decided that someone SHOULD know something and you were going to teach them something by being an asshole to me.

That's the problem.

I was asking Thanos what his "speech" was? At least he had the common courtesy to answer with the information I was looking for.

You fucked up and now you are trying to deflect.

Bullshit.

186 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:34:27am

re: #183 windsagio

Dinging is serious serious business!

But being a jerk to someone is 'cool", right!?

187 windsagio  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:35:43am

re: #186 sattv4u2

heh, I just realized where you're taking this.

If you wanna fight, theres a nice dark alley at ***ADDRESS REDACTED***. I'll be waiting there.

/guess I"ll be offline for a bit, try to show up within an hour, or the fights off!

188 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:36:46am

re: #186 sattv4u2

But being a jerk to someone is 'cool", right!?

You expect Windsagio to answer a straight question. That's not cool.

189 Silvergirl  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:37:10am

re: #178 Walter L. Newton

Thank... I fucking asked what Thanos was "speaking" and I fucking get down dinged by some jerk who is so fucking out of touch with reality and expects that everyone in the fucking world should be walking around with pointed ears and platinum hair.

And it's not about the karma. It's about being pissy. It's a taunt. Crazy.

190 celticdragon  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:37:54am

re: #185 Walter L. Newton

You really don't understand squat, do you. It's not the ding, it's the fact that you decided that someone SHOULD know something and you were going to teach them something by being an asshole to me.

That's the problem.

I was asking Thanos what his "speech" was? At least he had the common courtesy to answer with the information I was looking for.

You fucked up and now you are trying to deflect.

Bullshit.

How about we just not talk to each other, okay? You are really taking something way too fucking seriously about a movie that I was poking you about in fun. Get over it. I assumed that everybody here was an adult and we can rib one another once in awhile. My mistake.

191 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:37:59am

re: #187 windsagio

heh, I just realized where you're taking this.

If you wanna fight, theres a nice dark alley at ***ADDRESS REDACTED***. I'll be waiting there.

/guess I"ll be offline for a bit, try to show up within an hour, or the fights off!

Not "taking it" anywhere. Pointing out that Celtic was a jerk to Walter because Walter wasn't hip enough to immediatly get an obscure book/movie reference

192 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:38:08am

re: #189 Silvergirl

And it's not about the karma. It's about being pissy. It's a taunt. Crazy.

Yes.

193 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:38:32am

re: #174 Rightwingconspirator

Ten bucks an hour? W..T.. F... is that? Sweeping up? They paid for ex Russian nuke guys to move here to support non proliferation and they off you ten bucks? OMG that is just scandalous.

10 bucks an hour to shuffle papers at the CIA..Clinton really didn't want us back in the work force..MINSY was the evil nuclear sub base at the end of the cold war..We got screwed in some ways..With respect.. I didn't work for 2 years after the base closure at Mare Island...I had always been a DOD employee.. I had no idea what I was going to do with my life...We had always talked about what it would be like working in the private industry.. I had always worked for the Gov't with pride for the US Navy..
I was lost and bitter about my life..Great news!
The private industry Rocks!

194 The Sanity Inspector  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:39:19am

Back to the tsunami... A peeve of mine after the 2004 wave was how some people blamed the U.S. for not doing more to alert the nations in the region to the danger after the quake. I watched The Wave That Shook The World, the NOVA science TV special on the disaster. In it, a scientist at the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center expressed regret that the Indian Ocean wasn't wired up to the extent that the Pacific was. The PTWC scientists detected the earthquake, but had no way of directly measuring or tracking the tsunami. The scientist, God bless him for his humanity, seemed a little too contrite for the gap in coverage. It wasn't his fault.

The thing that got me angry is the malfeasance of the governments in that region. They all knew what danger lurked under the crust in western Indonesia. The Indonesian government even has a Western-built monitoring station for Anak Rakata, the still-active remains of the volcano Krakatoa. Most of the governments in the Indian Ocean are rich enough to have purchased a buoy-based tracking system from some Western seismology firm. India is rich and scientifically developed enough to have built its own. They apparently just didn't care enough about the lives of their own citizens to heed the science and prepare.

195 celticdragon  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:40:18am

re: #189 Silvergirl

And it's not about the karma. It's about being pissy. It's a taunt. Crazy.

Bullshit...and that downding is because you are dead wrong.

196 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:40:27am

re: #190 celticdragon

How about we just not talk to each other, okay? You are really taking something way too fucking seriously about a movie that I was poking you about in fun. Get over it. I assumed that everybody here was an adult and we can rib one another once in awhile. My mistake.

You didn't rib me, you down dinged me for not know some movie reference. You didn't just make a joke. That's funny? You must be the center of attention at funerals.

197 The Sanity Inspector  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:40:30am

re: #193 HoosierHoops

A bend in the road is not the end of the road! Bears repeating!

198 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:41:01am

re: #194 The Sanity Inspector

Easier to blame the U.S..

199 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:41:15am

re: #195 celticdragon

Bullshit...and that downding is because you are dead wrong.

getting caught acting like a twit is not erased by continuing to act like a twit!

200 windsagio  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:41:37am

re: #195 celticdragon

I know I said I was leaving (my excuse is finding my shoes):

But don't let them get to you, it really doesn't help much.

They feed on the conflict.

201 celticdragon  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:42:37am

re: #196 Walter L. Newton

You didn't rib me, you down dinged me for not know some movie reference. You didn't just make a joke. That's funny? You must be the center of attention at funerals.

Get lost. Seriously. I have better things to do than waste an afternoon with a joyless son of a bitch like you.

I'm out. Good day to rest of you lizards, and stay safe.

202 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:42:43am

re: #200 windsagio

I know I said I was leaving (my excuse is finding my shoes):

But don't let them get to you, it really doesn't help much.

They feed on the conflict.

re: #195 celticdragon

Windsagio is right. Put them on ignore.

203 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:42:46am

re: #200 windsagio

I know I said I was leaving (my excuse is finding my shoes):

But don't let them get to you, it really doesn't help much.

They feed on the conflict.

"THEY" feed on the conflict ,, yet you had no problem jumping in !!

mmmkkkaaaayyy!!

204 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:43:10am

re: #195 celticdragon

Bullshit...and that downding is because you are dead wrong.

Then you explain what the down ding was for me. For being stupid, for NOT knowing a movie reference, to let me know that I need to be more aware. The whole fucking nature of a down ding is to indicate disagreement with someone, or to indicate that the person is wrong, or mistaken, it's not a vehicle for humor, is it?

How to you see down dinging as being humorous. Explain.

205 celticdragon  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:43:39am

re: #202 iceweasel

re: #195 celticdragon

Windsagio is right. Put them on ignore.

Thanks! Will do.

206 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:44:14am

re: #175 Walter L. Newton

Internet: Serious Fucking Business!

207 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:44:40am

re: #205 celticdragon

Thanks! Will do.

I got your back. :)
Come hang in the live twitter feed and leave the usual suspects to bitch among themselves.

208 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:44:46am

re: #202 iceweasel

re: #195 celticdragon

Windsagio is right. Put them on ignore.

I agree. That would be the easiest way to not have to own up to being a jerk.

209 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:44:51am

re: #206 negativ

Internet: Serious Fucking Business!

Full Contact, Pay Per View Internet

210 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:45:07am

re: #206 negativ

Internet: Serious Fucking Business!

hahaha. :)

211 celticdragon  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:45:45am

re: #207 iceweasel

I got your back. :)
Come hang in the live twitter feed and leave the usual suspects to bitch among themselves.

How do I put somebody in ignore? Trying to find that.

212 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:46:25am

re: #211 celticdragon

How do I put somebody in ignore? Trying to find that.

Aw shucks-- I mean metaphorically. We don't have that feature, alas.

213 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:46:26am

re: #211 celticdragon

How do I put somebody in ignore? Trying to find that.

It's called self control. You don't respond to me, you don't read my comments and you don't bother me.

214 The Sanity Inspector  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:46:32am

...ascerbic Oscar Wilde quip redacted. But boy, was I thinking it...

215 The Sanity Inspector  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:47:23am

re: #211 celticdragon

How do I put somebody in ignore? Trying to find that.

That slidey thing on the right of the screen.

216 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:47:33am

*rolls eyes*

217 celticdragon  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:47:38am

re: #212 iceweasel

Aw shucks-- I mean metaphorically. We don't have that feature, alas.

Thanks for the clarification. See you a bit later :)

218 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:48:09am

re: #197 The Sanity Inspector

A bend in the road is not the end of the road! Bears repeating!

I love the Government.. I was always going to school with some class for 20 years.. I mean you always are in training over something...
It really helped out on the resume...I mean my transcripts are mad crazy..
And all you guys paid for it.. Thanks Bitches!
*wink*

219 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:48:18am

re: #217 celticdragon

Thanks for the clarification. See you a bit later :)

See you! I'm outta here again for a bit myself. :)

220 celticdragon  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:48:42am

re: #215 The Sanity Inspector

That slidey thing on the right of the screen.

Some sites do have an actual ignore feature that you can tag another commenter with.

221 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:49:16am

re: #216 MandyManners

*rolls eyes*

You should see someone about that. You wouldn't want your face to freeze that way, would you?
Maybe it'll be covered in ObamaCare. :)

222 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:49:56am

re: #221 iceweasel

You should see someone about that. You wouldn't want your face to freeze that way, would you?
Maybe it'll be covered in ObamaCare. :)

we know siblings dentures will be!

223 Racer X  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:53:46am

*rolls joint*

224 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:55:49am

re: #223 Racer X

*rolls joint*

Why did Humphrey Bogart just come into my mind !?!?!

225 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:55:51am

I see everybody headed upstairs..Hey Racerx..Finish rolling the joint and let's go upstairs and cause pain..
*wink*

226 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:56:20am

re: #225 HoosierHoops

I see everybody headed upstairs..Hey Racerx..Finish rolling the joint and let's go upstairs and cause pain..
*wink*

you keep winking at guys ,, you're gonna make me nervous

NTTAWWT!!

227 The Sanity Inspector  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:58:19am

re: #220 celticdragon

Some sites do have an actual ignore feature that you can tag another commenter with.

;)

228 lostlakehiker  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:58:32am

The Haiti earthquake was magnitude 7.0. This was 8.8. Richter scale is logarithmic so if this one had been 9.0 that would have meant 100 times the energy of the Haiti earthquake. As it is, it's merely fifty times as violent.

Chile seems to have its act together and they will come through this ordeal just fine. If they need help, it'll be on its way, but most likely apart from the immediate fatalities they'll be able to cope with the medical side of it and as to the rest, they have built well and most of their infrastructure will have survived.

229 Opal  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 12:42:56pm

re: #25 Walter L. Newton

**. This happened near some very populated areas," said Randy Baldwin, a geophysicist with the U.S. Geological Survey. "With an 8.8, you expect damage to the population in the area."***


yes...it did happen near populated areas, but it struck off the coast of Chile as opposed to under a metropolitan area or population center. [Link: news.yahoo.com...]


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