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1 freetoken  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:48:36pm
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe.

And if I wish to make a universe... with what would I start - an apple pie?

3 Kronocide  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:49:19pm

[Link: www.honoluluadvertiser.com...]

Hawaii gets persistent requests for Obama birth certificate

What they lack in thinking skills they make up for with obsessiveness.

4 freetoken  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:49:54pm

re: #3 BigPapa

If at first you don't succeed...

5 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:51:13pm

re: #4 freetoken

If at first you don't succeed...

FAIL, FAIL again.

6 Kragar  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:51:18pm

In the beginning, there was nothing. Then God said "Let there be LIGHT!"
There was still nothing, but now you could see it.

7 pharmmajor  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:51:43pm

re: #1 freetoken

And if I wish to make a universe... with what would I start - an apple pie?

Woah... that's deep, man.

8 The Sanity Inspector  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:52:11pm

re: #3 BigPapa

[Link: www.honoluluadvertiser.com...]

Hawaii gets persistent requests for Obama birth certificate

What they lack in thinking skills they make up for with obsessiveness.

They just won't take "yes" for an answer.

9 jaunte  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:52:27pm

re: #1 freetoken

And if I wish to make a universe... with what would I start - an apple pie?

You might need an apple tree first.

10 pharmmajor  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:53:35pm

So what do I have to create if I want to make a strawberry rhubarb pie?

11 Kragar  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:54:48pm

re: #10 pharmmajor

So what do I have to create if I want to make a strawberry rhubarb pie?

Fish, plankton, sea greens... protein from the sea!

12 jaunte  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:54:57pm
14 Kronocide  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 10:59:34pm

So the task of responding to requests for Obama's birth certificate has fallen to Okubo, who until January had been spending 10-hour days primarily dealing with the H1N1 "swine flu" pandemic.

"I'm getting 40 to 50 requests every month for President Obama's birth certificate, all of them from the Mainland — Arizona, South Carolina, Florida," Okubo said. "None are from Hawai'i."

15 albusteve  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:06:11pm

re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

In the beginning, there was nothing. Then God said "Let there be LIGHT!"
There was still nothing, but now you could see it.

I like Tolkien's version best of all...it's all about the music

16 albusteve  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:08:49pm

God made the Earth for a place to build football stadiums...this is common knowledge

17 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:08:55pm

re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

In the beginning, there was nothing. Then God said "Let there be LIGHT!"
There was still nothing, but now you could see it.

Heh.

18 keloyd  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:12:14pm

Woooo! I've got the apple pie episode of Cosmos on my DVR.

In other news, what sort of crazy people/hippies/teenagers/criminal masterminds are awake this late? I'm nursing a headache, what's yall's excuse? (kidding!)

19 Kragar  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:12:55pm

re: #18 keloyd

Wooo! I've got the apple pie episode of Cosmos on my DVR.

In other news, what sort of crazy people/hippies/teenagers/criminal masterminds are awake this late? I'm nursing a headache, what's yall's excuse? (kidding!)

Work.

20 Bagua  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:13:06pm

Wildside


- SB
21 keloyd  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:13:41pm

re: #19 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Work.


That's what I would expect a cat burglar to say.

22 shiplord kirel  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:13:52pm

Update on my long-running struggle to get the USPS to forward my mail.

There has been some progress but I still don't have my mail, held by the USPS since February 6th. After a lot of classic bureaucratic run-around, I finally reached a real person at the USPS customer service center in Fort Worth. After a few minutes of checking, he found that my original change of address request, submitted on the 11th, had not been entered into the system until the 23rd, 12 full days later. A second request, submitted online the 21st, had actually made it into the system a day earlier.
The carrier had taken it upon himself to start holding my mail as soon as I asked for the original form, 5 days before I submitted it. The net result is that I have received nothing postmarked for the old address after February 2nd. The USPS claims that customers should allow "7-10 postal business days" for forwarded mail to start arriving but even allowing for the plethora of minor holidays observed at USPS, 22 actual, realworld days is well beyong this. The infuriating thing is that my carrier could apparently decide on his own to withhold my mail, with no cause or authorization, and there is not a goddamn thing anyone can or will do about it.
This has caused some serious problems, since I originally delayed submitting the change of address form because I was expecting some important documents and could still pick up mail at the old address. Little did I know that they would disappear into a black hole for nearly a month because the carrier decided they should. This is like some kind of dark Kafkaesque farce from a European dictatorship and is certainly not the United States Postal Service I have know for most of my life.
I know that most postal workers are vets and it is a tough job, mostly because of the agency's notoriously abusive management culture, but still, when someone who makes more than many lawyers or college professors cannot get a simple clerical task done, there is something seriously wrong.
It goes from wrong to outrageous and criminal when there is no accountability at all for this.

23 Kragar  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:15:04pm

re: #21 keloyd

That's what I would expect a cat burglar to say.

I've never stolen a cat in my life.

24 Bagua  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:16:02pm

re: #22 shiplord kirel


It goes from wrong to outrageous and criminal when there is no accountability at all for this.

Let's see how they do with Healthcare.

25 Varek Raith  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:16:32pm

re: #23 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I've never stolen a cat in my life.

You don't 'steal' cats. They kidnap you.
;)

26 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:33:46pm

"How the Mountain of Climate Change Evidence Is Being Used to Undermine the Cause" [AlterNet]

As the backlash against climate science grows, the number of Americans who believe humans are to blame for warming the planet is shrinking.

Twenty-one years ago, in 1989, I wrote what many have called the first book for a general audience on global warming. One of the more interesting reviews came from the Wall Street Journal. It was a mixed and judicious appraisal. “The subject,” the reviewer said, “is important, the notion is arresting, and Mr. McKibben argues convincingly.” And that was not an outlier: around the same time, the first president Bush announced that he planned to “fight the greenhouse effect with the White House effect.”

I doubt that’s what the Journal will say about my next book when it comes out in a few weeks, and I know that no GOP presidential contender would now dream of acknowledging that human beings are warming the planet. Sarah Palin is currently calling climate science “snake oil” and last week, the Utah legislature, in a move straight out of the King Canute playbook, passed a resolution condemning "a well organized and ongoing effort to manipulate global temperature data in order to produce a global warming outcome" on a nearly party-line vote.

And here’s what’s odd. In 1989, I could fit just about every scientific study on climate change on top of my desk. The science was still thin. If my reporting made me think it was nonetheless convincing, many scientists were not yet prepared to agree.

Now, you could fill the Superdome with climate-change research data. (You might not want to, though, since Hurricane Katrina demonstrated just how easy it was to rip holes in its roof.) Every major scientific body in the world has produced reports confirming the peril. All 15 of the warmest years on record have come in the two decades that have passed since 1989. In the meantime, the Earth’s major natural systems have all shown undeniable signs of rapid flux: melting Arctic and glacial ice, rapidly acidifying seawater, and so on.

Somehow, though, the onslaught against the science of climate change has never been stronger, and its effects, at least in the U.S., never more obvious: fewer Americans believe humans are warming the planet. At least partly as a result, Congress feels little need to consider global-warming legislation, no less pass it; and as a result of that failure, progress towards any kind of international agreement on climate change has essentially ground to a halt.

27 Bagua  Sat, Feb 27, 2010 11:51:18pm

The Wishing Well


- Scott Biram
28 imploder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 12:35:37am

re: #26 goddamnedfrank

Maybe climate change alarmists are simply wrong.

The models the IPCC uses to strike fear and alarm can't predict forcings caused by variations like ENSO and PDO.

Why should their crappy models be able to predict shifts in climate? The simple answer is they cannot.

29 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 12:41:48am

re: #28 imploder

You have quite the apt username.

30 imploder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 12:43:09am

re: #29 goddamnedfrank

as do you.

31 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 12:46:06am

re: #30 imploder

as do you.

Frank chose wisely.
You? maybe accurately, but not so much with the wisdom there.

32 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 12:49:29am

re: #31 iceweasel

Frank chose wisely.
You? maybe accurately, but not so much with the wisdom there.

Check out this gem.

33 imploder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 12:51:17am

re: #32 Varek Raith

It's not wrong.

34 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 12:52:49am

re: #28 imploder

Maybe climate change alarmists are simply wrong.

The models the IPCC uses to strike fear and alarm can't predict forcings caused by variations like ENSO and PDO.

Why should their crappy models be able to predict shifts in climate? The simple answer is they cannot.

Even if one were to take a modest approach to AGW it would be a logical choice. Ignoring it and taking the low road of James Inhofe, Lord Mockton, and others would be illogical and irrational. You can spread your bullshit about the IPCC all you want but the fact remains. CO2 causes warming. Fossil fuels while a lot of fun for the time being are not sustainable. If we don't start making the transition now we'll just wait for a crisis and by then it may be too late. I'll take my chances with the IPCC before I do with Andre Watts.

35 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 12:53:54am

re: #32 Varek Raith

Check out this gem.

Good find.
I notice this last appearance in an overnight thread, apropos of nothing at all.

have you ever thought about the term, "groupthink?

36 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 12:54:30am

re: #33 imploder

It's not wrong.

Ah, but your understanding of it is.

37 imploder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 12:55:39am

re: #34 Gus 802

Could you explain why there were times in the Earth's history where CO2 levels were 10 times higher than they are now, and it was an ice age?

38 imploder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 12:56:09am

re: #36 Varek Raith

School me.

39 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 12:58:14am

re: #38 imploder

School me.

Why, seriously, why? I'd have no chance of convincing you. You'll never accept AGW, right?

40 imploder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 12:58:55am

re: #39 Varek Raith

I have an open mind, hence my propensity to examine both sides of the issue.

41 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:00:02am

re: #37 imploder

Could you explain why there were times in the Earth's history where CO2 levels were 10 times higher than they are now, and it was an ice age?

No it wasn't. And that was millions of years ago.

42 imploder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:00:44am

re: #41 Gus 802

No it wasn't. And that was millions of years ago.

Yes, it was. And it was millions of years ago. And?

43 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:01:24am

re: #40 imploder

I have an open mind, hence my propensity to examine both sides of the issue.

Really? Your past comments on this issue demonstrate otherwise. Do drop the ploy, it's fooling no one.

44 imploder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:02:01am

re: #43 Varek Raith

I come here with an open mind.

45 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:03:01am

re: #44 imploder

I come here with an open mind.

Concern troll.

46 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:03:13am

re: #44 imploder

I come here with an open mind.

Do you question the green house effect? Do you question CO2 being categorized as a GHG?

47 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:04:12am

Any second now JohnInLondon and Pythagoras will show up.

48 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:04:35am

re: #47 Gus 802

Any second now JohnInLondon and Pythagoras will show up.

TO THE BATHUMMER!111!11

49 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:05:25am

re: #48 Varek Raith

TO THE BATHUMMER!111!11

Yeah, with another copy and paste job from Watts up With That. Might even get something from Daily Fail.

50 Stonemason  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:06:04am

Pardon me if this was posted, it is from yesterday after all...

A first step maybe? Hope that real conservatives are going to take back the party?

51 imploder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:06:36am

re: #46 Varek Raith

Do you question the green house effect? Do you question CO2 being categorized as a GHG?

I don't question the basis. CO2 is a greenhouse gas. OK.

It is also a trace gas.

There were also times in the Earth's history when C02 was ten times higher than current levels and the Earth was in the throes of an Ice Age.

Do the laws of Physics find themselves suspended because it is ancient history? It is ancient history, but it is also scientific fact. Unless you don't believe the way paleo climatologists collect their data.

52 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:07:06am

re: #45 Gus 802

Concern troll.

Concern Troll is Concerned.

53 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:07:23am

re: #46 Varek Raith

Do you question the green house effect? Do you question CO2 being categorized as a GHG?

Why CO2 are plant food. Drill here drill now!111!!1

54 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:08:10am

re: #49 Gus 802

Yeah, with another copy and paste job from Watts up With That. Might even get something from Daily Fail.

Is this really from the Fail?

55 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:08:50am

re: #54 Varek Raith

Is this really from the Fail?

Climategate!11!!! Yep, looks like it.

56 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:09:29am

re: #55 Gus 802

Climategate!11!!! Yep, looks like it.

ROFL, who the hell'd take this...'paper' seriously?????

57 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:10:29am

re: #56 Varek Raith

ROFL, who the hell'd take this...'paper' seriously???

Concern trolls. Who else.

58 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:10:29am

Teh Science is Settled!

Troll's Brain and Memory

59 imploder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:11:10am

re: #54 Varek Raith

That's not where I got that fact.

I actually got it from a site that addresses the amount of carbon in the atmosphere during the Carboniferous period.

[Link: www.geocraft.com...]

Check it out. It's quite apolitical. Nice graphs, too.

60 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:11:36am

re: #51 imploder

So you question CO2s ability to absorb IR radiation?

61 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:12:25am

re: #59 imploder

Oh, I wasn't accusing you of doing such. Just having a side convo with Gus.

62 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:14:25am

re: #59 imploder

That's not where I got that fact.

I actually got it from a site that addresses the amount of carbon in the atmosphere during the Carboniferous period.

[Link: www.geocraft.com...]

Check it out. It's quite apolitical. Nice graphs, too.

IOW, you're arguing that since it was "OK" for the CO2 levels that were present 300 million years ago we should be OK now.

I see your point. It doesn't make any sense.

63 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:15:04am

re: #62 Gus 802

IOW, you're arguing that since it was "OK" for the CO2 levels that were present 300 million years ago we should be OK now.

I see your point. It doesn't make any sense.

Is that it? I'm confused...

64 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:15:57am

re: #63 Varek Raith

Is that it? I'm confused...

...as to what he was getting at.

65 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:16:03am

re: #63 Varek Raith

Is that it? I'm confused...

Seems like it. He's saying "it happened before" 300 million years ago so it's cool.

66 imploder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:16:12am

re: #62 Gus 802

IOW, you're arguing that since it was "OK" for the CO2 levels that were present 300 million years ago we should be OK now.

I see your point. It doesn't make any sense.

OK, then, if the Earth was in an Ice Age 300 million years ago, and the CO2 in the atmosphere was 12 times higher than it is now, than what?

Was the sun dimmer?

Would you agree the sun has something to do with climate?

What? Tell me.

67 Aye Pod  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:17:04am

Hannity falsely claims Obama admin. gives special treatment to atheists


Commenting on a White House staff-level meeting with leaders of atheist groups, Sean Hannity claimed that religious groups "have not received this treatment from the Obama White House." In fact, President Obama himself has met with numerous religious leaders, and the administration's contacts with religious groups include two days of meetings between administration staffers and more than 60 religious leaders.

[Link: mediamatters.org...]

68 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:17:13am

re: #62 Gus 802

IOW, you're arguing that since it was "OK" for the CO2 levels that were present 300 million years ago we should be OK now.

I see your point. It doesn't make any sense.

Tell me there's more to his argument than this.

69 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:18:02am

re: #67 Jimmah

Hannity falsely claims Obama admin. gives special treatment to atheists

[Link: mediamatters.org...]

Oh, Hannity, go suck on an egg.

70 imploder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:18:35am

re: #68 iceweasel

I thought clicking on that would bring me to something meaningful. Great retort.

71 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:22:38am
72 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:23:45am

re: #70 imploder

I thought clicking on that would bring me to something meaningful. Great retort.

Yeah, it's late.

73 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:24:26am

re: #70 imploder

I thought clicking on that would bring me to something meaningful. Great retort.

So what. You link to a website to Monte Hieb who is an anti-AGW puke that works for the State of West Virginia mining office. Read on:

Monte Hieb, sometime West Virginia Office of Miner’s Safety chief engineer, can scarcely be accused of neutrality in the Climate Wars. Deservedly celebrated for his web site on the fossils of the coal measures of Appalachia, the amateur climate scientist has created a truly remarkable graph for The National Center for Policy Analysis "Global Warming Primer".

Coal enthusiasts may have a case to make, but Hieb's peculiar history of palaeoclimate seems an improbable tool for recruiting scientists to the fossil fuel cause-- it rivals the Creation Museum's take on geochronology.

Hieb's Kindergarten approach to radiative forcing by water vapor had atmospheric science professionals laughing long before he tried his hand at finger painting palaeoclimate . The Primer's cut and paste counterfeits of curves generated by mathematical models are all too reminiscent of the statistical shenanigans that led to the 'Hockey Stick' affair being denounced by Center chairman Pete DuPont in his Wall Street Journal column.

74 Stonemason  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:24:42am

This is one of those side issues that completely baffles me.
How can a United States resolution mean anything in the grand scheme of things concerning a genocide that took place so long ago? We can't get the nut job in Iran to stop enriching uranium and we are worried about labeling a genocide genocide?

75 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:25:21am

re: #73 Gus 802

Words of advice; Gus will fact check your ass into oblivion if you're wrong.

76 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:25:49am

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77 freetoken  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:27:23am

re: #66 imploder

Was the sun dimmer?

Actually yes, it was.

78 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:29:16am

re: #76 Gus 802

*crickets*
Hmmm.
:)

79 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:30:47am

Odd, I just auto-logged out?

80 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:31:59am

re: #79 Varek Raith

Odd, I just auto-logged out?

We had issues with that yesterday with the Twitter feed.

81 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:32:25am

Aww, imploder left...
:(

82 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:33:01am

re: #80 Cannadian Club Akbar

We had issues with that yesterday with the Twitter feed.

Thanks, was about to yell at my ISP!
:)

83 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:33:12am

re: #78 Varek Raith

*crickets*
Hmmm.
:)

It's just more bullshit. Geocraft... Warcraft... I keep finding stuff in my searches about his reference.

84 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:33:34am

re: #82 Varek Raith

Thanks, was about to yell at my ISP!
:)

Yell at them anyway.

85 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:34:04am

re: #84 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yell at them anyway.

I do!
Damn you, Comcast!!11!11~~~

86 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:38:28am

From Science Blogs comments:

RE dhogaza

And, hey, glad I found the site you were drawing your misinformation from.

Somehow, I just knew it would be Monte Hieb. I think I just blocked off another Bingo square or must now consume a glass of some beverage.

Posted by: Deech56 %P% January 9, 2010 7:31 AM
39

Somehow, I just knew it would be Monte Hieb.

It was my first introduction to the site ... and hopefully my last visit.

Posted by: dhogaza %P% January 9, 2010 1:52 PM

dhogaza, I've had Monte Hieb's site (and the Scotese chart) cited by opponents in the past.

Lance, the temperature chart that Scotese shows is out of date. Might want to check out this paper.

Posted by: Deech56 %P% January 11, 2010 9:30 AM

87 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:39:05am

I went to the store yesterday to grab a few things. Had a cute woman actually hit on me. Problem? I didn't realize she was hitting on me until I was half way home. I'm a fucking moron.

88 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:39:27am
Monique -
Why would you use a West Virginia mining engineer (Monte Hieb) as an expert resource on climate change? The website you are basing your argument on is not peer reviewed. He is not a climate scientist. He has not published any peer reviewed papers on climate science that I could find. Most of his website is devoted to fossil hobbyists.

I highly recommend using real scientists and real science. The website RealClimate.org has an excellent discussion.
Posted by: Robert Balliot at September 22, 2009 4:43 PM

89 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:40:01am

Well, time for my very cold morning walk. BBL!
:)


re: #87 Cannadian Club Akbar

I went to the store yesterday to grab a few things. Had a cute woman actually hit on me. Problem? I didn't realize she was hitting on me until I was half way home. I'm a fucking moron.

Ouch, I've facepalmed myself several times for reasons like that!

90 freetoken  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:41:52am

re: #81 Varek Raith

Aww, imploder left...
:(

They try the late night hit and run, usually on stale threads, hoping no one can/will answer them.

For those who are interested, you can look at this graph on wikipedia for a quick overview of temperature on a 500 million time scale:
Image: File:Phanerozoic_Climate_Change.png
From the period starting in the middle of Carboniferous to the middle of the Permian there were periods of ice ("ice ages"). However, unlike the claims of tonight's troll, the CO2 levels did indeed fall during that time:
Image: File:Phanerozoic_Carbon_Dioxide.png
Additionally, during that time the atmosphere as a whole was somewhat different, the land masses were arranged very differently than today, and indeed as the Sun was younger it was not as bright as today.

"Imploder", like so many AGW deniers, just doesn't care for the truth.

91 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:42:10am

More bullshit from Hieb showing his bias:

Monte Hieb of Summersville wants to find the answer to the following question:

“Did James Hansen take leave from his day job as ‘chief temperature data manipulator’ at NASA to come to West Virginia on his own time, or is he here on his government salary and at taxpayer expense playing political activist?”

92 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:48:05am

Good night.

93 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:49:29am

re: #92 Gus 802

Good night.

Later Gus, always a pleasure.

94 freetoken  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:49:44am

re: #92 Gus 802


95 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:52:38am

re: #94 freetoken

Arrgh, updinged, but..celine!

96 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:55:39am

re: #95 iceweasel

Arrgh, updinged, but..celine!

I think Celine Dion is kinda hot. She just needs more meat on her bones. And I know how to make biscuits and gravy. Hmmm...

97 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:57:37am

re: #96 Cannadian Club Akbar

I think Celine Dion is kinda hot. She just needs more meat on her bones. And I know how to make biscuits and gravy. Hmmm...

Sounds like a euphemism!/
Kidding. I'll ask for a recipe sometime.
(NOT A EUPHEMISM)

98 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 1:58:37am

Morning shift coming on early. Stupid dog.

99 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:03:17am

I got my hair cut yesterday. I got in the chair and the girl asked what I wanted. I said military short. She said, "So a 1 and a 2?" WTF is a 1 and a 2? So I said yes. Best haircut I have had in years. So, yes, a 1 and a 2, please.

100 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:03:41am

re: #74 Stonemason

This is one of those side issues that completely baffles me.
How can a United States resolution mean anything in the grand scheme of things concerning a genocide that took place so long ago? We can't get the nut job in Iran to stop enriching uranium and we are worried about labeling a genocide genocide?

I had the pleasure of being on temporary duty near Istanbul when Sen Dole pushed a resolution through (89-90??).

101 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:08:50am

re: #100 Decatur Deb

I had the pleasure of being on temporary duty near Istanbul when Sen Dole pushed a resolution through (89-90??).

I loved Istanbul for the few weeks I was in Turkey. It was spring/summer 2002 and I can't begin to describe how happy they were to see an American.

102 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:10:02am

I loved the movie "Midnight Express." Just sayin'.

103 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:10:53am

re: #101 iceweasel

I loved Istanbul for the few weeks I was in Turkey. It was spring/summer 2002 and I can't begin to describe how happy they were to see an American.

The Turks are way cool. They try very, very hard to make a modern society with a lot of things stacked against them. Don't mention "Midnight Express", though.

104 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:11:39am

re: #102 Cannadian Club Akbar

5 seconds off.

105 freetoken  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:12:13am

re: #102 Cannadian Club Akbar

Never saw it.

However, I just finished watching "Once Upon A Time In The West", at the behest of KT. I'd only seen parts of it on TV before, years ago. This time in DVD glory on my computer (much cleaner, and allowed me to absorb the visual quality.)

106 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:13:34am

re: #103 Decatur Deb

The Turks are way cool. They try very, very hard to make a modern society with a lot of things stacked against them. Don't mention "Midnight Express", though.


Wikipedia:

Midnight Express is a 1978 American film directed by Alan Parker and based on Billy Hayes' book of the same name adapted into screenplay by Oliver Stone. Hayes was a young American student sent to a Turkish prison for trying to smuggle hashish out of Turkey. The movie deviates from the book's accounts of the story, especially in its portrayal of Turks, and some have criticized the movie version, including Billy Hayes himself. Later, both Oliver Stone and Billy Hayes expressed their regret on how Turkish people were portrayed in the movie.

That being said, not all of Turkey is like Istanbul, by a long shot. Some places are more 'Western' ---and many are much less so.

107 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:14:18am

re: #105 freetoken

IIRC, Midnight Express was directed by Oliver Stone. A true story and well worth the 2 hours. And, FWIW, Oliver Stone is a fucking kookball.

108 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:15:14am

re: #107 Cannadian Club Akbar

IIRC, Midnight Express was directed by Oliver Stone. A true story and well worth the 2 hours. And, FWIW, Oliver Stone is a fucking kookball.

A true story from 1970, which added many fictional elements. All the sexual assault stuff, for example.

109 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:15:20am

re: #106 iceweasel

That being said, not all of Turkey is like Istanbul, by a long shot. Some places are more 'Western' ---and many are much less so.

re: #107 Cannadian Club Akbar

That brings clarity.:)

110 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:16:25am

re: #102 Cannadian Club Akbar

Elia Kazan, of dubious memory, made a strong film "America, America" about his family's emigration. Said he wanted to film the story, and didn't care about the box office.

111 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:17:47am

re: #109 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #107 Cannadian Club Akbar

That brings clarity.:)

It's a bit like claiming you 'know' America based on a single weekend in NYC, or LA-- or Omaha, or a town in the Bible Belt. Or watching Deliverance.

112 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:17:58am

re: #110 Decatur Deb

Elia Kazan, of dubious memory, made a strong film "America, America" about his family's emigration. Said he wanted to film the story, and didn't care about the box office.

Didn't he catch shit for "outing" the Hollywood commies in the '50's?

113 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:20:32am

re: #111 iceweasel

It's a bit like claiming you 'know' America based on a single weekend in NYC, or LA-- or Omaha, or a town in the Bible Belt. Or watching Deliverance.

When Midnight Express came out I was 11 or so. I was just happy to see boobs. (I know, I'm an idiot. A boob seeing idiot, though!!)

114 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:21:19am

re: #106 iceweasel

That being said, not all of Turkey is like Istanbul, by a long shot. Some places are more 'Western' ---and many are much less so.

I did a few exercises and lot of technical visits to tiny units all around the northern borders. Our usual hotel was a wooden firetrap that had been German HQ during WW I. It was near the airport, and the owner had been an interpreter for our units when they were established in the 50's.

115 Stonemason  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:21:29am

re: #100 Decatur Deb

I had the pleasure of being on temporary duty near Istanbul when Sen Dole pushed a resolution through (89-90??).

Okay, so then you could explain why it is such an issue here. I understand that the Turks don't want the lable, but how much does it mean, really? We pass resolutions about all sorts of things, would this really mean anything? Would a Turk wake up and say to himself, dagnabit, I live in a country the committed genocide, just because the US Congress said so?

Admittedly, I do not get it.

Oh, I do understand the perception, but we pass the resolution, the Turks say $%$^ you, and life goes on...

116 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:21:36am

re: #97 iceweasel

(NOT A EUPHEMISM)

Thou must baketh by the rites inscribed in proper tomes, and knoweth that thee canst not be slothful in such endeavours.

NSFW

117 Stonemason  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:23:44am

re: #115 Stonemason


long night, too many pimf's to list.

118 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:23:56am

re: #108 iceweasel

A true story from 1970, which added many fictional elements. All the sexual assault stuff, for example.

One of our guys ignored the army procedures, and hassled the local gendarmes over a traffic accident. It took a weekend to get him out of jail. Then he found out he had spent three days inside rather than pay a 7 dollar ticket.

119 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:24:47am

re: #115 Stonemason

Okay, so then you could explain why it is such an issue here.

1) because the Turks did conduct a genocide against the Armenians.
2) because we have many Armenian-Americans and also Turkish-Americans, and we need to sustain diplomatic ties with Turkey as well as Armenia.
3) Really, must I go on? What exactly are you confused about?

120 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:25:05am

re: #112 Cannadian Club Akbar

Didn't he catch shit for "outing" the Hollywood commies in the '50's?

Yeah--lost a lost of friends. He could have been a contender.

121 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:26:04am

re: #102 Cannadian Club Akbar

I loved the movie "Midnight Express." Just sayin'.

And "The Horror Express"?

122 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:26:08am

re: #115 Stonemason

We need Turkey. They are friends, but they did fuck us in the run up to Iraq 2003. (people forget that) I am indifferent on this matter.

123 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:28:09am

re: #115 Stonemason

Okay, so then you could explain why it is such an issue here. I understand that the Turks don't want the lable, but how much does it mean, really? We pass resolutions about all sorts of things, would this really mean anything? Would a Turk wake up and say to himself, dagnabit, I live in a country the committed genocide, just because the US Congress said so?

Admittedly, I do not get it.

Oh, I do understand the perception, but we pass the resolution, the Turks say $%$^ you, and life goes on...

Oh no. I can't explain it either--I just saw the results up close. It seemed like a gratuitous insult to a valuable ally. We were told Sen Dole had done it for a personal acquaintance, but that doesn't explain recent stuff.

124 Stonemason  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:31:04am

re: #119 iceweasel

It's a United States Congressional Resolution, not something in any way binding. Are we saying that one side or the other is so weak that they can't handle the truth?

It is a strongly worded letter on better stationary.

Okay then, don't do it, why is not passing it such a problem?

Do you see the confusion? Is this some sort of lobby thing? We need Turkey to be our buddy in the area more than we need to make nice to Armenian Americans, or am I missing something?

See why I am confused? To be nice to some Armenians we risk screwing up our bases in Turkey, but at the same time, by not passing the resolution we risk...what exactly?

125 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:32:10am

re: #120 Decatur Deb

Yeah--lost a lost of friends. He could have been a contender.

Now the Hollywood commies just do their thing. See: Michael Moore, Sean Penn, Danny Glover. (I think Sean Penn's dad was on "the list")

126 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:32:28am

re: #122 Cannadian Club Akbar

We need Turkey. They are friends, but they did fuck us in the run up to Iraq 2003. (people forget that) I am indifferent on this matter.

Rerouting the division had a lot to do with the Kurds and PKK. Turkey never has much wiggle room.

127 Stonemason  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:32:43am

re: #123 Decatur Deb

It seemed like a gratuitous insult to a valuable ally

that is how I see it too, hence the confusion, why do it at all...

128 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:34:18am

re: #124 Stonemason

It's a United States Congressional Resolution, not something in any way binding. Are we saying that one side or the other is so weak that they can't handle the truth?

It is a strongly worded letter on better stationary.

Okay then, don't do it, why is not passing it such a problem?

Do you see the confusion? Is this some sort of lobby thing? We need Turkey to be our buddy in the area more than we need to make nice to Armenian Americans, or am I missing something?

See why I am confused? To be nice to some Armenians we risk screwing up our bases in Turkey, but at the same time, by not passing the resolution we risk...what exactly?

It would be like reminding the British about the Potato Famine every couple years, only the Turks take it a lot harder.

129 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:34:52am

In preparation for long-range missions and possible conflict with Iran, the Israel Air Force has expanded its training programs to include rapid refueling operations on runways.

It’s a dangerous practice since the aircraft’s engines are running while the fuel nozzle is still connected to the jets. The training is for both pilots and ground crews and it is being done to enable the aircraft to carry as much fuel as possible for long-range missions.

Fuel nozzles are traditionally disconnected from fighter aircraft while they are still parked in hangers and before they are rolled out to the runway, where they usually wait for several minutes before takeoff and while burning fuel. The new protocol includes keeping fuel trucks on the runway, having ground personnel reattach the nozzle and fuel the aircraft to the maximum fullness, disconnecting seconds before takeoff.

“We understand that many of our threats and challenges require us to develop a long-range capability,” one senior IAF officer explained. “Part of our preparation includes knowing how to fuel our aircraft so they can have as much fuel as possible.”

Last week, the IAF inaugurated a new unmanned aerial vehicle called the Heron TP. With the same wingspan as a Boeing 737, the Heron TP is Israel’s largest and most sophisticated drone, weighing 4,650 kg. and capable of flying for 36 hours while carrying a payload of hundreds of kilograms. The Heron will increase the IAF’s long-range capabilities, mainly in intelligence and surveillance, and according to foreign reports could also have missile strike capabilities.

SNIP

130 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:35:10am

re: #126 Decatur Deb

Rerouting the division had a lot to do with the Kurds and PKK. Turkey never has much wiggle room.

We had plans to come up from the South and down from the North. The Turks did screw us.

131 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:35:51am

re: #124 Stonemason


Okay then, don't do it, why is not passing it such a problem?

Because the Armenian genocide was either ignored or denied for practically a century now. Wiki will tell you it's the most studied genocide second only to the Holocaust, and yet we've never recognised officially that it took place.

Let's change this a bit. Do you think it would be pointless and a waste of time to recognise the Rape of Nanking?
It's a moral duty to call such atrocities by their proper names.

132 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:37:06am

re: #128 Decatur Deb

It would be like reminding the British about the Potato Famine every couple years, only the Turks take it a lot harder.

That might have worked as an analogy, except that the UK acknowledges what it did in the famine.

133 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:38:42am

re: #131 iceweasel

I have never heard of the Rape of Nanking. I love this place because smart people hang here. Can you enlighten me, please?

134 gvmtspook  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:39:23am

"On Feb 3rd, National Intelligence Director Dennis Blair, in open testimony before the House intelligence committee, acknowledged that American citizens can be assassinated at our government's discretion"

[Link: www.liveleak.com...]


If this is true, what the hell is wrong??? This is beyond partisan lines...

135 freetoken  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:40:43am

re: #133 Cannadian Club Akbar

Serious?

136 Stonemason  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:41:04am

re: #131 iceweasel

Therin lies the confusion. Do we insult the Turks or do we recognize history with a Congressional resolution. Will the resolution make the pain of the Armenians any less? Will the resolution free up some money somewhere? Will the resoluion do anything other than piss off an ally?

From what I have read, it happened, history books say it happened, and I have not found a Congressional Resolution that says it did not happen, so, in effect, we do recognize it.

I guess I just don't put much faith in a Congressional resolution about this. It's words, not deeds. Maybe the time spent on this could be spent on figuring out how to stop current genocides...

137 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:41:52am

re: #130 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #134 gvmtspook

"On Feb 3rd, National Intelligence Director Dennis Blair, in open testimony before the House intelligence committee, acknowledged that American citizens can be assassinated at our government's discretion"

[Link: www.liveleak.com...]

If this is true, what the hell is wrong??? This is beyond partisan lines...

We seem to have a hit ordered on the US citizen in Yemen who wound up Hasan at Ft. Hood. It's just to early for me to chase the links right now.

138 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:41:57am

re: #134 gvmtspook

Linky no worky. But I have to call BS on this. If the gubment is gonna kill someone, you wouldn't hear about it.

139 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:42:07am

re: #133 Cannadian Club Akbar

I have never heard of the Rape of Nanking. I love this place because smart people hang here. Can you enlighten me, please?

I'll just give you wiki for now, but I strongly suggest you not read about it or do more research until you're either far from sleep or your last meal.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Lots of horrific documentaries and material available.
Anyway, the point of analogy here is that the Japanese likewise haven't wanted to acknowledge it for decades.

140 Stonemason  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:42:47am

re: #134 gvmtspook


link toof me to a Fark login page

141 freetoken  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:42:48am

re: #134 gvmtspook

Very Alex Jones of you...

142 gvmtspook  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:43:31am

re: #136 Stonemason

It is not about politics and what is best for political interests. The peoples that went through this need acknowledgment, and at a high level.

Would you ask the Jews to just be silent after the Holocaust? Because this is what you are asking of the Armenian.

143 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:44:02am

re: #132 iceweasel

That might have worked as an analogy, except that the UK acknowledges what it did in the famine.

The future might bleed less if a lot of old wounds were allowed to scar.

144 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:44:29am

Watching eyes of celluloid
Tell you how to live
Metaphoric motor-replay
Give, give, give!
Laughter kissing love
Is showing me the way
Spiral city architect
I build, you pay

G'nite Lizards.

145 gvmtspook  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:45:40am

Sorry I apparently had a bad link.. try this one...

re: #140 Stonemason

RE:
"On Feb 3rd, National Intelligence Director Dennis Blair, in open testimony before the House intelligence committee, acknowledged that American citizens can be assassinated at our government's discretion"

146 Stonemason  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:45:59am

re: #142 gvmtspook

It is not about politics and what is best for political interests. The peoples that went through this need acknowledgment, and at a high level.

Would you ask the Jews to just be silent after the Holocaust? Because this is what you are asking of the Armenian.

No I am not, I want the Armenians to scream about it from the highest rooftops. I want it to be in every history book...I want to google it and find references.

I do not think a US Resolution means squat.

Then, I take the other side as the confusion sets in.

147 freetoken  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:46:06am

While I've loved IMDB since its inception, one of the screwier things about it are the "members" who rate the films. There appears to be a growing tradition of young internet-punks who appear to want to make their mark by dissing great movies. E.g., anyone who gives Shichinin no samurai (Seven Samuri) one start (out of 10) is clearly doing so simply to call attention to themselves.

148 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:46:26am

re: #138 Cannadian Club Akbar

Linky no worky. But I have to call BS on this. If the gubment is gonna kill someone, you wouldn't hear about it.

I'll get back to you on it, but it's 0445 here. We discussed it without surprise here a few days ago. Pres Obama signed off. Blows my mind too.

149 freetoken  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:46:38am

re: #145 gvmtspook

Ron Paul!

150 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:47:10am

re: #141 freetoken

Very Alex Jones of you...

Actually, what he's saying is true. It's buried in a WaPo article from Janurary. Obama is continuing a Bush-era policy:


After the Sept. 11 attacks, Bush gave the CIA, and later the military, authority to kill U.S. citizens abroad if strong evidence existed that an American was involved in organizing or carrying out terrorist actions against the United States or U.S. interests, military and intelligence officials said. . . .

The Obama administration has adopted the same stance. If a U.S. citizen joins al-Qaeda, "it doesn't really change anything from the standpoint of whether we can target them," a senior administration official said. "They are then part of the enemy."

Both the CIA and the JSOC maintain lists of individuals, called "High Value Targets" and "High Value Individuals," whom they seek to kill or capture. The JSOC list includes three Americans, including [New Mexico-born Islamic cleric Anwar] Aulaqi, whose name was added late last year. As of several months ago, the CIA list included three U.S. citizens, and an intelligence official said that Aulaqi's name has now been added.

151 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:47:21am

re: #139 iceweasel

I'll just give you wiki for now, but I strongly suggest you not read about it or do more research until you're either far from sleep or your last meal.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Lots of horrific documentaries and material available.
Anyway, the point of analogy here is that the Japanese likewise haven't wanted to acknowledge it for decades.

An exhaustive history was done a few years ago. Pulitzer material.

152 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:48:06am

Fridays are getting tense in the Chicago campaign office of Alexi Giannoulias, the Democrat seeking the U.S. Senate seat once held by President Barack Obama. That’s the day regulators announce which troubled banks they’ll close.

Broadway Bank in Chicago, owned by Giannoulias’s family, must attract at least $75 million in capital by late April to meet terms of a consent order with the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. prompted by losses on commercial real-estate loans. Even if successful, the family could lose control before November’s election, dealing a blow to Democrats and an Obama friend.

SNIP

Some of the Broadway loans that have generated controversy involve Michael Giorango, a convicted bookmaker and prostitution-ring promoter. It has also made loans to convicted Illinois influence peddler Antoin “Tony” Rezko and a family accused of having connections to organized crime.

SNIP

153 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:49:05am

re: #151 Decatur Deb

An exhaustive history was done a few years ago. Pulitzer material.

The author has since killed herself.

154 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:49:36am

I love it when we can all chat about things and no one throws a "fuck you" or "you're an asshole" out there.

155 freetoken  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:50:00am

re: #150 iceweasel

Yet, it's still very Alex Jones of him...

156 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:50:20am

re: #154 Cannadian Club Akbar

I love it when we can all chat about things and no one throws a "fuck you" or "you're an asshole" out there.

Who asked for your damn opinion?

157 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:51:13am

re: #156 Decatur Deb

Who asked for your damn opinion?

fuck you, you're an asshole!!!
/need I?

158 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:51:55am

re: #152 MandyManners

75 million? We'll have to empty half the freezers in congress.

159 gvmtspook  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:53:10am

re: #150 iceweasel

I am saddened, I for one voted for Oboma. As a moderate I felt he was not better than McCain, but that McCains running mate sealed the deal. I did not buy into the whole "I can change the world" thing, as I am educated enough to know the president has little direct power, other than executive orders and the ability to move the armed forces for 120 days.

I will not use this to condemn Obama directly, as I think McCain would have done the same, rather WHY IS THIS OK IN GOVERNMENT?

160 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:55:07am

re: #159 gvmtspook

I am saddened, I for one voted for Oboma. As a moderate I felt he was not better than McCain, but that McCains running mate sealed the deal. I did not buy into the whole "I can change the world" thing, as I am educated enough to know the president has little direct power, other than executive orders and the ability to move the armed forces for 120 days.

I will not use this to condemn Obama directly, as I think McCain would have done the same, rather WHY IS THIS OK IN GOVERNMENT?

I voted for him because I think he is better than Sen McCain. It's not OK.

161 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:55:12am

Dhimmification continues apace.

The Danish daily Politiken, which partners with SPIEGEL ONLINE, has reached a settlement with the descendants of the Prophet Muhammad, apologizing for the offence caused by the Muhammad caricatures republished by the paper. Not all politicians in Denmark support the move.

As the first newspaper to do so, Politiken has reached a settlement with descendants of the Prophet Muhammad in connection with the affront its reprint of drawings of the Prophet Muohammad in 2008 may have caused Muslims.

The settlement was reached between Politiken and eight organisations representing 94,923 descendants of the Prophet Muhammad in a move Politiken's Editor-in-Chief Tøger Seidenfaden says shows that dialogue is the way forward.

"The settlement looks ahead and expresses very sensible views. It may possibly reduce the tensions that have shown themselves to be so resilient. It gives us hope that relations between Denmark, and not least its media, and the Muslim world can be improved," Seidenfaden says, adding he does not believe Politiken's move is a freedom of speech sellout.

SNIP

162 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:56:15am

re: #159 gvmtspook

I feel you. Riddle me this. When was the last time Congress declared War on a country?

163 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:56:34am

re: #159 gvmtspook

I am saddened, I for one voted for Oboma. As a moderate I felt he was not better than McCain, but that McCains running mate sealed the deal. I did not buy into the whole "I can change the world" thing, as I am educated enough to know the president has little direct power, other than executive orders and the ability to move the armed forces for 120 days.

I will not use this to condemn Obama directly, as I think McCain would have done the same, rather WHY IS THIS OK IN GOVERNMENT?

I voted for Obama as well, but he has in every instance either continued Bush-era policies w/r/t civil liberties and executive power or extended them.
I'm not surprised, and it would have been no different under McCain or anyone else.

The changes he's made are mostly cosmetic, with the exception of stopping the EIT and extraordinary rendition. But given that original recipe rendition is just fine with him, and that the JSOC, not the CIA, runs the black sites now, it's essentially cosmetic.

164 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 2:58:15am

Police forces entered the al-Aqsa Mosque plaza at the Temple Mount on Sunday morning after dozens of Arab youths who barricaded themselves in the mosque on Saturday night began hurling stones at passersby entering the Temple Mount compound.

Two policemen and two Border Guard officers were lightly injured by stones hurled in the Old City's alleys. They received medical treatment on site and resumed their activity. At least twelve protestors were injured and seven were arrested.

SNIP

165 gvmtspook  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:00:39am

re: #162 Cannadian Club Akbar

War, or "authorized military engagement". And yes I have no clue on the difference.

War? WWII

authorized military engagement: October 16, 2002 by George W Bush.

166 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:06:00am

re: #165 gvmtspook

IIRC, you are correct. We haven't been at war since WW2. That is why I love the whole "illegal war" meme. Korea? Not a war. Vietnam? Not a war. Iraq 1. Not a war. Iraq 2? Not a war. Afghanistan? Not a war. And they can bite me.

167 gvmtspook  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:07:55am

re: #163 iceweasel


The changes he's made are mostly cosmetic, with the exception of stopping the EIT and extraordinary rendition. But given that original recipe rendition is just fine with him, and that the JSOC, not the CIA, runs the black sites now, it's essentially cosmetic.

I agree, and I am saddened, while I did not think he would really change as much as he claimed he could, I am seeing no real change on his part. I was not a Ron Paul supporter, mostly because I think his own party minimalises him, so he can't be an affective leader, since he cant hold the dems nor the repubs in congress.

168 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:08:00am

re: #165 gvmtspook

War, or "authorized military engagement". And yes I have no clue on the difference.

War? WWII

authorized military engagement: October 16, 2002 by George W Bush.

We did shift into that mode early, through the 19th Cent Indian wars. I'm not sure about the documentation on the Barbary Pirates.

169 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:10:40am

Glenn beck blames drunkenness for liberalism, or vice versa.

Glenn Beck used to be a social liberal before he discovered Alcoholics Anonymous and then consequently sobered up. This admission—coming straight from the man's lips on his Friday TV show on FNC during a special
entitled "Who Are You?"—may not be a surprise to some who know Beck's backstory, but it certainly reinforces the conventional wisdom that liberalism breeds weakness and is oftentimes an impediment to personal self-improvement. His declaration came in the context of "knowing yourself" politically and ideologically, the theme of Friday's Glenn Beck show special on FNC. Stating that his recovery from alcoholism came only after he truly discovered who he was—libertarian conservative—Beck also went on to assert that he later realized he was only a liberal because he didn't want to make tough choices or be consistent.

I think he just discovered there was no money in being a raving, hysterical, batshit crazy lib, the market having been saturated by committed amateurs.

170 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:10:59am

re: #166 Cannadian Club Akbar

IIRC, you are correct. We haven't been at war since WW2. That is why I love the whole "illegal war" meme. Korea? Not a war. Vietnam? Not a war. Iraq 1. Not a war. Iraq 2? Not a war. Afghanistan? Not a war. And they can bite me.

Which of those came to a fully satisfying conclusion?

171 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:12:26am

re: #169 Shiplord Kirel

"Some of us are just born a couple of drinks behind the others"--Tight Little Island

172 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:15:48am

re: #167 gvmtspook

I was not a Ron Paul supporter, mostly because I think his own party minimalises him, so he can't be an affective leader, since he cant hold the dems nor the repubs in congress.

I'm not a Ron Paul supporter because I'm not a nutbar. And he is.

Later folks. Have a nice day, LGFer's!

173 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:15:50am

re: #170 Decatur Deb

Which of those came to a fully satisfying conclusion?

None. (I do think Gulf War 1 went well) I hate to be a person who asks a question with a question, but can you find a common denominator?

174 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:16:44am

that's what it is, by any dictionary's definition -- is in an awkward position following the death of political prisoner Orlando Zapata after an 83-day hunger strike, and the decision of four other jailed dissidents to stop eating to demand the release of all prisoners of conscience.

Predictably, the United States and most European democracies issued statements condemning Cuba's human rights abuses. And predictably, many Latin American countries -- including some who claim to champion human rights, such as Argentina and Mexico -- have remained silent, or made wishy-washy statements.

But the big question is how Zapata's death will play where it really counts -- inside Cuba. For the first three days after the death of the Afro-Cuban bricklayer imprisoned since 2003, the regime of Gen. Raúl Castro had not allowed the Cuban media to report it.

Finally, on Saturday, the muzzle was removed.

SNIP

175 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:17:48am

re: #174 MandyManners

that's what it is, by any dictionary's definition -- is in an awkward position following the death of political prisoner Orlando Zapata after an 83-day hunger strike, and the decision of four other jailed dissidents to stop eating to demand the release of all prisoners of conscience.

Cuba's military dictatorship -- that's what it is, by any dictionary's definition -- is in an awkward position following the death of political prisoner Orlando Zapata after an 83-day hunger strike, and the decision of four other jailed dissidents to stop eating to demand the release of all prisoners of conscience.

176 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:20:07am

re: #175 MandyManners

Cuba has a military? Send them to Tampa. We can teach them what "redneck" means.

177 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:20:16am

re: #173 Cannadian Club Akbar

None. (I do think Gulf War 1 went well) I hate to be a person who asks a question with a question, but can you find a common denominator?

Congress and the American people stayed in support of WW2. (Actually, we accomplished what we set out to do in the "unfinished" Korean action. I was glad to end Gulf 1 as we did, but many aren't.

178 stonemason  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:20:25am

re: #166 Cannadian Club Akbar

IIRC, you are correct. We haven't been at war since WW2. That is why I love the whole "illegal war" meme. Korea? Not a war. Vietnam? Not a war. Iraq 1. Not a war. Iraq 2? Not a war. Afghanistan? Not a war. And they can bite me.

you forgot Grenada...

179 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:22:53am

re: #173 Cannadian Club Akbar

None. (I do think Gulf War 1 went well) I hate to be a person who asks a question with a question, but can you find a common denominator?

I would disagree about the Korean War. Media culture certainly portrays it as a stalemate at best, and a defeat when they can. They do this by commonly (mis)portraying the war as an effort to conquer the communist north and unify it with the free south. The facts are very different, however. There is no doubt at all that the war started with Kim Il Sung's effort to bring the south into his Stalinist state. In this, he was comprehensively defeated. His Chinese allies lost over a million soldiers by their own admission and this made Mao very leery of military adventurism for the rest of his tenure, though this was not commonly realized in the west.

180 freetoken  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:24:29am

re: #169 Shiplord Kirel

From Wikipedia entry on Alcohol withdrawal syndrome, some symptoms:

Agitation
Confusion
Delirium tremens

These may be hallucinations, or illusions related to the environment, e.g., patterns on the wallpaper that the patient perceives as giant spiders attacking him or her.


Derealization

..is an alteration in the perception or experience of the external world so that it seems strange or unreal...


Euphoria
Fear
Hallucinations
Psychosis
Sweating

Yeah, I think Beck qualifies...

181 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:24:34am

re: #175 MandyManners

Being a military dictatorship means never having to say you're sorry.

182 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:24:51am

re: #177 Decatur Deb

Congress and the American people stayed in support of WW2. (Actually, we accomplished what we set out to do in the "unfinished" Korean action. I was glad to end Gulf 1 as we did, but many aren't.

The UN tied George H.W. Bush's hands. I hate the UN. Fucking Blue Helmet rapist.

re: #178 stonemason

you forgot Grenada...

I have a book by a guy that was there. Grenada= pussies.

183 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:27:33am

President Obama is facing sharp criticism for his decision to nominate Tim Purdon as U.S. attorney in North Dakota , a nominee who critics say lacks sufficient experience and owes the nod -- over more-qualified candidates -- to his political connections.

Critics are also pointing to the nomination as evidence of Democratic hypocrisy for accusing the Bush administration, specifically his attorney general, Alberto Gonzalez, of politicizing the Justice Department in the firing of several attorneys.

"When President Obama said he wanted to restore the independence and dignity of the U.S. attorney's office, in light of the Alberto Gonzalez fiasco, then appoints a political activist and party fundraiser, it seems a little to me like 'politics as usual' than 'change we can believe in,'" Bill Brudvik, a candidate for the post, told the Fargo Forum.

Purdon, a lawyer since 1995 who lacks any prosecutorial experience, has donated more than $12,000 to Democratic causes since 2000, including $2,300 to Obama's 2008 presidential campaign.

He was also state chairman for John Edwards' failed presidential bid.

SNIP

184 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:28:02am

re: #179 Shiplord Kirel

I would disagree about the Korean War. Media culture certainly portrays it as a stalemate at best, and a defeat when they can. They do this by commonly (mis)portraying the war as an effort to conquer the communist north and unify it with the free south. The facts are very different, however. There is no doubt at all that the war started with Kim Il Sung's effort to bring the south into his Stalinist state. In this, he was comprehensively defeated. His Chinese allies lost over a million soldiers by their own admission and this made Mao very leery of military adventurism for the rest of his tenure, though this was not commonly realized in the west.

I get you. But do we have a treaty with the Norks? Or just an Armistice?

185 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:28:59am

re: #182 Cannadian Club Akbar

I have a book by a guy that was there. Grenada= pussies.

Soviets and Cubans.

186 freetoken  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:29:50am
187 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:30:28am

re: #184 Cannadian Club Akbar

I get you. But do we have a treaty with the Norks? Or just an Armistice?

Cease fire. Negotiations continue, IIRC. Rounds are occasionally traded.

188 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:31:17am

re: #185 MandyManners

Soviets and Cubans.

I can be in Cuba in 4 hours drive and 2 hours boat. But Che is da man.

189 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:35:23am

re: #188 Cannadian Club Akbar

I can be in Cuba in 4 hours drive and 2 hours boat. But Che is da dead man.

190 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:36:30am

re: #189 MandyManners

Harder to fight Zombie Che.

191 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:37:35am

Rep. John Carter (R-Texas) intends to introduce a privileged resolution next week calling for a vote on removing Charles Rangel as head of the Ways and Means panel.

Carter was prompted by the recent ethics committee’s “public admonishment” of Rangel, who should have known better than to accept private travel expenses from a corporation, a two-page report on the matter concluded.

But last week’s decision was unrelated to the exhaustive ethics investigation into a host of questionable matters related to Rangel’s past tax practices, financial disclosures and personal property arrangements.

The former Texas District Court judge, in an interview with The Hill, explained his plan to reignite a lengthy crusade to force a House vote on Rangel’s fate atop the tax-writing panel.

SNIP

“The other allegations were not addressed. The tax issues, the apartment issues, subsidized apartment, and using his public stationery to raise money for his private charity -- those are still pending,” Carter said.

192 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:40:10am

FWIW, I went to the store the other day. Smokes, beer, the usual. The girl behind the counter said. $19.85. Then she said it was a good year. i told her that it was a good year. I had just graduated from high skool. She then told me it was a good year because she escaped communism at that point. My eyes got wet. She was from China.

193 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:43:16am

The stench of hypocrisy is strong.

We could understand Nancy Pelosi's defense of Charlie Rangel this way. It's an issue of conservation. I've heard those San Francisco liberals love the environment. Forget promises to "drain the swamp" during the 2006 campaign. She wants to conserve her ally's job.

Don't get Pelosi wrong. Surely, if a powerful House member "has proven himself to be ethically unfit" we know "the burden" indeed "falls upon" his party to oust him. In such a case, party leaders would obviously ask: "Do they want to remove the ethical cloud that hangs over the Capitol?"

So Pelosi explained in October 2004. The subject was Tom DeLay. The House ethics committee had admonished the Republican majority leader. DeLay used the Federal Aviation Administration to track Democratic state rivals. He hosted a fundraiser with energy lobbyists while energy legislation was under consideration.

Pelosi argued: "We must stop the influence of special interests so that the people know that we are here for the people's interests."

After all, this is why we have institutions like the Charles B. Rangel Center for Public Service. Except, that is, for the namesake and the center. An oil drilling company (special interest) made a $1 million donation to Rangel's center. The quid pro quo, allegedly, included legislative favors. The matter, like so much of Rangel's world, is under investigation.

Rangel has one of the powerful jobs in government. The New York Democrat is chairman of the House Ways and Means committee. The committee has jurisdiction over all taxation. And that's the rub. Rangel has a problem paying all his taxes.

SNIP

194 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:44:37am

re: #193 MandyManners

Rangel is on my douchebag list.

195 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 3:51:43am

re: #194 Cannadian Club Akbar

Rangel is on my douchebag list.

We could do it like the old spy movies: Line up a bunch of Dem d/b's at one side of a bridge, and a bunch of Repubs on the other. Let one of each start towards the other side simultaneously. (But we leave out several panels of decking in the center of the bridge.)

196 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 4:05:23am

re: #133 Cannadian Club Akbar

I have never heard of the Rape of Nanking. I love this place because smart people hang here. Can you enlighten me, please?

O_O wow! I learned about it in junior high.

197 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 4:07:55am

re: #196 WindUpBird

A lot of HS history bogs down around Reconstruction. If it weren't for TV documentaries, we would lose the recent past.

198 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 4:08:38am

re: #169 Shiplord Kirel

Glenn beck blames drunkenness for liberalism, or vice versa.

I think he just discovered there was no money in being a raving, hysterical, batshit crazy lib morning zoo host on cocaine, the market having been saturated by committed amateurs bad Clearchannel radio.

:D

199 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 4:09:35am

re: #197 Decatur Deb

A lot of HS history bogs down around Reconstruction. If it weren't for TV documentaries, we would lose the recent past.

I was also in a lot of advanced placement classes, so we zeroed in on a lot of stuff that wouldn't have gotten covered in a normal history class, I suspect.

200 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 4:13:22am

re: #199 WindUpBird

I had some dead time between semesters in a good library. For fun, I read all the periodicals from the week/month after Pearl Harbor. The most enlightening was a blank page, with a small note that the columnist had enlisted.

201 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 4:13:38am

An al-Qaeda double agent that killed seven CIA operatives and a Jordanian spy called for jihad in Jordan and attacks on its intelligence agency in a posthumous video message posted on extremist websites Sunday.

Humam Khalil Abu Mulal al-Balawi also described Sunday in the 43-minute video his recruitment by Jordanian intelligence and how he double crossed them after they sent him to Afghanistan to spy on al-Qaeda.

The video was apparently filmed shortly before the 32-year-old al-Balawi blew himself up at a CIA facility on Dec. 30 in Afghanistan's eastern province of Khost where he'd been invited to reveal information on al-Qaeda No. 2, Ayman al-Zawahri.

SNIP

202 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 4:19:45am

Good Morning to Charles Private Lizard Army!

VDH has a great article up:

The Tragic Truth of War
What we dare not say: Killing the enemy brings victory.

203 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 4:30:21am

Rumors of breakfast. BBL

204 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 4:30:59am

re: #202 rwdflynavy

Some things we do not speak of...

205 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 4:32:24am

re: #204 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Some things we do not speak of...

We can't link to VDH?

206 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 4:34:10am

re: #205 rwdflynavy

nah... I was being sarcastic.

It's funny. You really don't hear people speak of it.

207 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 4:35:08am

re: #205 rwdflynavy

Cool article, btw. Thanks.

208 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 4:35:24am

re: #206 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

nah... I was being sarcastic.

It's funny. You really don't hear people speak of it.

Got it! I always am concerned I will link to a verboten site!

209 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 4:37:37am

There is a dizzying array of different camouflage shirts hanging in Qais Ibrahim's tailor shop: dark blue, light blue, even white, for the various different police departments.

And then there is the khaki and jungle green for the army departments - not to mention the dark shirts that the officers wear.

In the past the army just used one colour, but now everyone has his own choice

Qais Ibrahim
Tailor
Iraqi police, military and local security forces are growing as the Americans prepare for a large-scale withdrawal of their troops.

This has given rise to a burgeoning industry, providing uniforms for the hundreds of thousands of people employed at checkpoints and on patrols across the country.

But in recent months, a number of high-profile attacks have been carried out by bombers wearing the uniforms of the Iraqi security forces.

Now the government has started cracking down.

SNIP

210 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 4:39:12am

re: #208 rwdflynavy

Don't look to me to point out those things. I normally don't go to other sites.

"Kill him a lot."
-Amilyn - Buffy the Vampire Slayer

211 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 4:41:42am

Churchy things... bye.

213 SixDegrees  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 4:43:54am

re: #210 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Don't look to me to point out those things. I normally don't go to other sites.

"Kill him a lot."
-Amilyn - Buffy the Vampire Slayer

Joss Whedon writes some of the best dialog on television. The cancellation of Firefly was a travesty.

214 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 4:48:06am

Attempted dhimmification.

Most of us occasionally have differences of opinion with our neighborhood public school. If you voice your complaints, you may risk a frown from the principal or a cold shoulder from other parents at a school softball game.

But at one Minnesota public school, critics may be in for something more sinister. Khalid Elmasry says in an affidavit that after he criticized Tarek ibn Ziyad Academy (TiZA), which his child used to attend, the school's executive director made a statement at a parent meeting that Elmasry took "as an attempt to incite violence against me and my family." Even more disturbing is what Janeha Edwards -- a former administrative assistant at the school -- says in an affidavit the director suggested after she displeased him: "We could just kill you, yeah tell your husband we'll do his job for him."

These bizarre developments are described in documents filed in a legal battle royal between TiZA -- a K-8 charter school with campuses in Inver Grove Heights and Blaine -- and the American Civil Liberties Union of Minnesota. Last year, the ACLU filed a federal suit claiming that TiZA impermissibly promotes religion.

In January, the ACLU sought a protective order, telling the court that intimidation by TiZA was discouraging potential witnesses from appearing. On Feb. 10, the court barred witness harassment or intimidation by either party.

Elmasry is one witness who sought such protection. In January, he testified about TiZA's financial entanglement with the Muslim American Society of Minnesota at a Minnesota Senate subcommittee hearing on charter school lease aid. Shortly thereafter, Elmasry says in an affidavit, he was informed by a friend and TIZA parent that TiZA authorities had called a parent meeting, where they showed a video of Elmasry's testimony. Then, according to the parent's account, Asad Zaman, the school's director and an imam -- or Muslim religious leader -- accused Elmasry of talking to the Minnesota Department of Education and "selling" his "Iman," meaning his Islamic faith, according to Elmasry's affidavit.

Elmasry was frightened, he says. "It is well-known in Islam that a Muslim who rejects his or her faith is committing an act punishable by death," according to his affidavit. "There are many accounts of Muslims taking matters into their own hands and killing people they believe have sold or rejected their Islamic faith or Iman."

SNIP

According to the ACLU, the alleged pattern of intimidation extends to any "who might speak publicly about events at TiZA and its use of public funds." Even Chuck Samuelson, the ACLU's executive director, has been a target. In July 2009, the school filed a defamation claim in excess of $100,000 against the ACLU, citing Samuelson's simple statement that "[TiZA is] a theocratic school ... as plain as the substantial nose on my face."

Alan Dershowitz, a noted Harvard law professor, has described TiZA's defamation claim as "lawfare -- the use of law as a weapon of warfare." Controversial Islamic organizations "sue their critics for defamation, not with the intent to win the case, but with the hope of imposing an unaffordably high cost on criticism of their actions," he and Elizabeth Samson wrote in the British newspaper the Guardian.

SNIP

215 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 4:48:49am

re: #212 Decatur Deb

Perhaps these guys can wear their old uniforms:

[Link: www.google.com...]

I'm not too sure about this plan.

216 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 4:50:59am

Life intrudes.

Later Lizards.

217 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 4:52:39am

re: #215 MandyManners

I'm not too sure about this plan.

Yeah. It might once have made some kind of sense to preserve that officer corps, but we've already paid the price.

218 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 4:53:55am

Just woke up after a nap. Should I make a red sauce or just loose meat sammies today?

219 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 4:55:01am

re: #218 Cannadian Club Akbar

Just woke up after a nap. Should I make a red sauce or just loose meat sammies today?

You're a lizard. You blog. You don't sleep, don't eat.

220 SixDegrees  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 4:55:06am

re: #218 Cannadian Club Akbar

Just woke up after a nap. Should I make a red sauce or just loose meat sammies today?

It's Sunday. Go for the sauce.

221 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 4:55:15am

Bite my shiny, metal ass, Markos.

How do liberals really think journalism can be improved? By shrinking the amount of time and space Republicans have in the media. Daily Kos founder Markos Moulitsas lamented on Friday that John McCain would continue his streak as a go-to spokesman on Sunday morning news shows. Citing fellow liberal blogger Steve Benen, he complains McCain’s appearance on Sunday’s Meet the Press marks the 20th appearance on a Sunday morning talk show since Obama's inauguration: he's appeared on ABC three times, CBS 5, NBC 4, CNN 4, and Fox 4:

Quite the schedule for a backbencher with no power base within the party, a loser whose re-election to the Senate -- heck, survival in his own primary! -- is in serious jeopardy.

When I was on Meet the Press in December, David Gregory asked me what he could do to make the show better. I said, "stop having John McCain on". He and his producers nodded, seemingly acknowledging the ridiculousness of McCain's incessant appearances.

SNIP

222 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 4:57:29am

re: #220 SixDegrees

It's Sunday. Go for the sauce.

With the sauce, I can actually do both. Pasta today, sammies tomorrow. That works.

223 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 4:58:27am

Kevin Ang is cautious these days. He glances around, taking a look to the left down the long row of stores, then to the right toward the square, to check that no one is nearby. Only then does the church caretaker dig out his key, unlock the gate, and enter the Metro Tabernacle Church in a suburb of Kuala Lumpur.

The draft of air stirs charred Bible pages. The walls are sooty and the building smells of scorched plastic. Metro Tabernacle Church was the first of 11 churches set on fire by angry Muslims -- all because of one word. "Allah," Kevin Ang whispers.

SNIP

224 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:00:06am

Really gotta go this time.

225 Unakite  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:00:40am

re: #17 Varek Raith

Heh.

Wow, BDS was part of G*d's plan. Whoda thunk it?

226 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:08:16am

A top Massachusetts Democrat said Saturday that one of Robert F. Kennedy's grandsons is considering carrying on the family's vaunted political tradition by running for the U.S. House of Representatives.

Joseph P. Kennedy III, one of the twin sons of former Rep. Joseph P. Kennedy II, may run this fall if Democratic Rep. William Delahunt decides against seeking re-election in his South Shore and Cape Cod district.

Kennedy, 29, "has been considering it but he hasn't made a decision," said the Democrat, who demanded anonymity to speak about private conversations with the father and son.

SNIP

227 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:08:54am

Watching my mom's house. She has very little stuff to make sauce with. But, it's on the stove. I pray I find some Angel Hair.

228 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:12:38am

re: #226 MandyManners

They need to just go away. And they need not tell me to sell drugs. Booze was considered a drug at one point, correct?

229 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:13:42am

re: #228 Cannadian Club Akbar

They need to just go away. And they need not tell me to sell drugs. Booze was considered a drug at one point, correct?

It still is a drug if you define it as a mind-altering substance.

230 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:16:10am

re: #229 MandyManners

It still is a drug if you define it as a mind-altering substance.

Please. Acid does that. But, being an Alky can get you gubment benefits.

231 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:17:28am

re: #230 Cannadian Club Akbar

Please. Acid does that. But, being an Alky can get you gubment benefits.

You can get bennies if you're a heroin addict.

232 SixDegrees  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:19:39am

Score! I just found a two-quart Ziploc bag full of homemade turkey soup in the freezer, left over from Thanksgiving. So lunch is taken care of for most of the week.

There's a goose in there, too. I may have to do something about that next weekend.

233 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:20:24am

re: #231 MandyManners

You can get bennies if you're a heroin addict.

I did heroin once. (smoked it) I threw up and fell asleep. Party!! Not.

234 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:21:15am

re: #232 SixDegrees

You just need some biscuits!!!!!

235 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:21:19am

re: #232 SixDegrees

Score! I just found a two-quart Ziploc bag full of homemade turkey soup in the freezer, left over from Thanksgiving. So lunch is taken care of for most of the week.

There's a goose in there, too. I may have to do something about that next weekend.

Is it dead?

236 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:21:46am

re: #233 Cannadian Club Akbar

I did heroin once. (smoked it) I threw up and fell asleep. Party!! Not.

Mushrooms reportedly make you puke, too.

237 SixDegrees  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:22:10am

re: #235 MandyManners

Is it dead?

Seems to be. If not, I can fix that.

238 SixDegrees  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:24:26am

re: #234 Cannadian Club Akbar

You just need some biscuits!!!

Not gonna happen, unless the biscuit fairy shows up with a basketful. I suck at baking, and have finally decided to just admit it and move on.

239 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:26:24am

In the campaign posters that cover Baghdad's public surfaces like wallpaper, Iraqi candidates project an array of demeanors and identities that they hope will sway voters in next month's parliamentary elections.

Some grin; others scowl. They point accusingly at unseen enemies or extend open arms in a show of unity. Men appear in tailored suits to suggest cosmopolitanism, in tribal robes to appeal to more traditional Iraqis and in clerical turbans as a reminder to the devout. Thanks to a government quota, one in four candidates is female, and they reflect the broad spectrum of Iraqi womanhood, from lipstick and highlighted hair to bare faces framed by flowing black cloaks.

"If votes were counted according to the amount of time spent staring at the posters, she would definitely win," said Bilal Nouri, a supermarket worker in Fallujah who gazed longingly at a poster of an attractive female candidate.

Analyzing, judging and — especially — mocking all this posturing has become a national pastime as Iraqis prepare to vote on March 7. Not only a way to needle the political elite, it's much safer for ordinary Iraqis to make fun of the 6,000 or so candidates than it is for them to voice their opinions on the issues: securing the nation, religious vs. nationalist agendas, rampant corruption, the lack of basic services and a dismal economy.

SNIP

240 SixDegrees  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:26:37am

re: #233 Cannadian Club Akbar

I did heroin once. (smoked it) I threw up and fell asleep. Party!! Not.

A friend of mine smoked crack once. A few hours afterward, he started having a terrible jones for more, including hallucinations of a crack pipe floating in front of his face. Scared the living shit right out of him, and he never went near the stuff again. After hearing about it, I never had any desire to even be in the same room with the stuff. Seriously bad mojo.

241 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:26:45am

re: #236 MandyManners

Mushrooms reportedly make you puke, too.

This is true. Shrooms do make you puke. Did those once as well. And my neighbor chased down a couple kids looking for shrooms on his property. He is a whole bit redneck and he didn't play with the kids.

242 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:29:17am

re: #238 SixDegrees

Not gonna happen, unless the biscuit fairy shows up with a basketful. I suck at baking, and have finally decided to just admit it and move on.

I have a biscuit recipe on my fridge, but I'm not at home. Very easy. I think 4 total ingredients. I'll get it to you.

243 SixDegrees  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:29:45am

re: #242 Cannadian Club Akbar

I have a biscuit recipe on my fridge, but I'm not at home. Very easy. I think 4 total ingredients. I'll get it to you.

Thanks. I'll find a way to ruin it.

244 laZardo  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:29:53am

re: #236 MandyManners

re: #241 Cannadian Club Akbar

I thought shrooms gave you the ability to curbstomp turtles better.

245 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:32:18am

re: #243 SixDegrees

Thanks. I'll find a way to ruin it.

You will jump for joy once you do it. Joy won't be happy, though.
/

246 laZardo  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:33:01am

re: #245 Cannadian Club Akbar

Joy is gay anyway.

/lol synonyms

247 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:34:31am

re: #241 Cannadian Club Akbar

This is true. Shrooms do make you puke. Did those once as well. And my neighbor chased down a couple kids looking for shrooms on his property. He is a whole bit redneck and he didn't play with the kids.

I was thinking about trying them once until someone told me what to expect. And, there is no quality control to them--I'd hate to get a deadly one.

248 SixDegrees  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:35:03am

re: #245 Cannadian Club Akbar

You will jump for joy once you do it. Joy won't be happy, though.
/

I've had a hankering for Spanish rice lately, and that's gonna get made tonight. Haven't had it for years. My grandmother used to make it, so it's one of those childhood comfort foods for me. I don't have her recipe, but I think I can get pretty close.

249 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:35:50am

re: #247 MandyManners

I was thinking about trying them once until someone told me what to expect. And, there is no quality control to them--I'd hate to get a deadly one.

Just look for a purple ring. Around the cap.

250 Mr. Crankypants  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:36:44am

re: #249 Cannadian Club Akbar

Just look for a purple ring. Around the cap.

If you know what I mean...

251 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:36:56am

re: #248 SixDegrees

You might need Saffron. Not cheap.

252 Mr. Crankypants  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:38:36am

re: #247 MandyManners

I was thinking about trying them once until someone told me what to expect. And, there is no quality control to them--I'd hate to get a deadly one.

never did anything stronger than hash. Had someone offer me cocaine once, and I said "No Thanks, I might like it too much."

Found out later that cocaine is a definite no no for ADD type people. Now my recreational chemistry is limited to the fine products of the Guinness company.

253 Mr. Crankypants  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:39:11am

re: #248 SixDegrees

I've had a hankering for Spanish rice lately, and that's gonna get made tonight. Haven't had it for years. My grandmother used to make it, so it's one of those childhood comfort foods for me. I don't have her recipe, but I think I can get pretty close.

There is a Rice in Spanish Harlem..

254 SixDegrees  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:39:41am

re: #251 Cannadian Club Akbar

You might need Saffron. Not cheap.

I've got some, but the rice I'm talking about doesn't use it. I think it's also called Mexican rice, although I doubt it has anything to do with either Spain or Mexico. Rice, browned with some oil first along with onions and garlic, then finished in chicken broth and diced tomatoes.

I've made paella before, and that needs saffron. Fortunately, a little bit goes a long, long way.

255 Mr. Crankypants  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:39:57am

re: #251 Cannadian Club Akbar

You might need Saffron. Not cheap.

Sage advice...Do you think she has thyme?

256 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:40:16am

re: #249 Cannadian Club Akbar

Just look for a purple ring. Around the cap.

I wouldn't eat one for any amount of money now.

257 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:40:30am

re: #252 PT Barnum

never did anything stronger than hash. Had someone offer me cocaine once, and I said "No Thanks, I might like it too much."

Found out later that cocaine is a definite no no for ADD type people. Now my recreational chemistry is limited to the fine products of the Guinness company.

Coke makes your dick shrink and paranoia. What's not to love?
//

258 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:40:46am

re: #252 PT Barnum

never did anything stronger than hash. Had someone offer me cocaine once, and I said "No Thanks, I might like it too much."

Found out later that cocaine is a definite no no for ADD type people. Now my recreational chemistry is limited to the fine products of the Guinness company.

I tried coke once. It made me shut up and sit down.

259 Mr. Crankypants  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:41:53am

re: #258 MandyManners

I tried coke once. It made me shut up and sit down.

I snorted Coke once but the carbonation made me sneeze..

260 laZardo  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:41:56am

I've never done illegal drugs. I've never even abused my prescription meds.

I'm so square. ;_;

261 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:42:51am

re: #258 MandyManners

I tried coke once. It made me shut up and sit down.

Well at least that worked. Getting you on a blog didn't.
/

262 Mr. Crankypants  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:44:16am

re: #261 Cannadian Club Akbar

Well at least that worked. Getting you on a blog didn't.
/

OH SNAP!

263 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:45:46am

re: #259 PT Barnum

I snorted Coke once but the carbonation made me sneeze..

It burrrnnnzzz.

264 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:46:05am

FWIW, I don't use drugs. Not even OTC drugs. No pot, acid or anything else. I drink beer and smoke cigs. That's it.

265 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:46:08am

re: #260 laZardo

I've never done illegal drugs. I've never even abused my prescription meds.

I'm so square. ;_;

Oooh. A vrigin.

266 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:46:22am

re: #261 Cannadian Club Akbar

Well at least that worked. Getting you on a blog didn't.
/

*whack*

267 laZardo  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:46:40am

re: #265 MandyManners

Oooh. A vrigin.

;D

/also PIYF

268 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:48:18am

re: #264 Cannadian Club Akbar

FWIW, I don't use drugs. Not even OTC drugs. No pot, acid or anything else. I drink beer and smoke cigs. That's it.

I dropped acid at a Rush concert. Geddy Lee turned into a crow and flew across the coliseum's ceiling.

269 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:48:35am

re: #267 laZardo

;D

/also PIYF

PIFY?

270 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:48:55am

Oops.

PIYF.

271 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:49:21am

re: #22 shiplord kirel

Have you tried feigning insanity? I've heard your voice on some radio call-in show that was hosted on LGF once - you've got a gift for vocal theatrics, and it sounds to me like it's high time you used it.

Call up the USPS.

Clerk: Post office, how may I..
Shiplord Kirel: DO YOU KNOW WHO THIS IS!?
Clerk: ... uh
SK: THIS IS YOUR MOTHER. (have Bach organ music and lightning sound effects playing in the background)
Clerk: (bewilderment)
SK: EAT YOUR PEAS. CLEAN YOUR ROOM. DELIVER MY MAIL.
Clerk: Sir, how...
SK: YOU'RE GROUNDED. (hang up abruptly)

272 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:50:21am

re: #268 MandyManners

I dropped acid at a Rush concert. Geddy Lee turned into a crow and flew across the coliseum's ceiling.

I've seen Rush 4 times. TOOL is where the acid should be dropped. Or ex.

273 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:53:17am

re: #272 Cannadian Club Akbar

Skinny Puppy > TOOL.

274 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:54:20am

re: #271 negativ

Have you tried feigning insanity? I've heard your voice on some radio call-in show that was hosted on LGF once - you've got a gift for vocal theatrics, and it sounds to me like it's high time you used it.

Call up the USPS.

Clerk: Post office, how may I..
Shiplord Kirel: DO YOU KNOW WHO THIS IS!?
Clerk: ... uh
SK: THIS IS YOUR MOTHER. (have Bach organ music and lightning sound effects playing in the background)
Clerk: (bewilderment)
SK: EAT YOUR PEAS. CLEAN YOUR ROOM. DELIVER MY MAIL.
Clerk: Sir, how...
SK: YOU'RE GROUNDED. (hang up abruptly)

I called Dell once. I heard.. "This is Gary. How may I help you." I guess I'm a racists.

275 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:56:06am

re: #274 Cannadian Club Akbar

I forgot to mention he was in Pak-e-stan..

276 Only The Lurker Knows  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 5:58:24am

*yawn* Morning all.

277 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:00:06am

re: #276 Bubblehead II

*yawn* Morning all.

Shut the fuck up!!! Just kidding. :)

278 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:02:05am

re: #274 Cannadian Club Akbar

279 Only The Lurker Knows  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:04:21am

re: #277 Cannadian Club Akbar

Eat My Grits! :-)

Alice at Mels Diner (I Think)

280 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:06:03am

re: #279 Bubblehead II

Eat My Grits! :-)

Alice at Mels Diner (I Think)

I think it was Flo.

281 Cathypop  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:06:27am

re: #279 Bubblehead II

Eat My Grits! :-)

Alice at Mels Diner (I Think)


It's "Kiss my grits" Flo

282 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:07:43am

I am at my mom's house. She keeps the heat on 78 or so. I need no heat. Guess my mom is getting old.

283 Only The Lurker Knows  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:13:23am

re: #280 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yep, your right.

Florence Jean Castleberry

284 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:13:52am

re: #282 Cannadian Club Akbar

And my mom never makes da sauce. I do this.

285 Only The Lurker Knows  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:16:33am

re: #281 Cathypop

Yep. I can't believe I actually googled that. Slow news day I guess.

286 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:18:12am

Good Morning Lizards!
Here is a sad story about 2 brothers and sports.. Jay and Mark Mcgwire
[Link: sports.espn.go.com...]

287 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:18:13am

re: #279 Bubblehead II

She was just passin' throooo
But if things work out
She's gonna staaaaay
A whiiiiiile
Puh puh puh puh paaaaa.

288 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:18:16am

re: #285 Bubblehead II

Yep. I can't believe I actually googled that. Slow news day I guess.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

289 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:19:51am

re: #285 Bubblehead II

Yep. I can't believe I actually googled that. Slow news day I guess.

I went to LA and asked for grits. A Santa Monica Restaurant. They said, "What is a grit."

290 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:21:39am

re: #289 Cannadian Club Akbar

I have no idea what "grits" are, but for whatever reason I associate "grits" with "chitlins", and "chitlins" is something I wouldn't eat even if I was starving to death.

291 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:21:45am

re: #289 Cannadian Club Akbar

I went to LA and asked for grits. A Santa Monica Restaurant. They said, "What is a grit."

"A" grit?

LOL!

292 Only The Lurker Knows  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:22:11am

re: #288 MandyManners

Fine. A slow Bubblehead II day.

Show Off :-)

293 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:22:11am

re: #289 Cannadian Club Akbar

I went to LA and asked for grits. A Santa Monica Restaurant. They said, "What is a grit."

Grits aren't big in California.. I've never had them myself

294 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:23:04am

re: #290 negativ

I have no idea what "grits" are, but for whatever reason I associate "grits" with "chitlins", and "chitlins" is something I wouldn't eat even if I was starving to death.

Girl
Raised
In
The
South.

295 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:23:32am

re: #290 negativ

I have no idea what "grits" are, but for whatever reason I associate "grits" with "chitlins", and "chitlins" is something I wouldn't eat even if I was starving to death.

Grits are homeny. chitlens are pig intestines. There is a difference.

296 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:23:48am

re: #292 Bubblehead II

I like rising before the sun but, it happened really early today. Heck, I've been up for more than four hours.

297 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:23:50am

re: #294 MandyManners

But(t),
what is it?

298 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:24:21am

re: #297 negativ

But(t),
what is it?

CCA has it in No. 295.

299 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:25:10am

re: #295 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'M THE EXPERT CHEF

300 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:25:10am

re: #294 MandyManners

Girl
Raised
In
The
South.

So, we wonna get married soon?
/

301 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:25:12am

re: #295 Cannadian Club Akbar

Grits are homeny. chitlens are pig intestines. There is a difference.

What is Homeny? Is that corn?

302 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:27:59am

re: #301 HoosierHoops

What is Homeny? Is that corn?

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

303 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:28:59am

re: #301 HoosierHoops

It's corn with a problem.

304 RogueOne  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:29:00am

Morning folks.

305 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:29:53am

re: #302 Cannadian Club Akbar

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Thanks..I thought it was some kind of corn.. I would eat grits then...

306 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:32:14am

re: #305 HoosierHoops

Thanks..I thought it was some kind of corn.. I would eat grits then...

Grits with butter RULE!!!!! Just sayin'.....

307 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:33:45am

As Quasimodo sees Esmerelda.

308 RogueOne  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:33:58am

re: #305 HoosierHoops

Thanks..I thought it was some kind of corn.. I would eat grits then...

Hoosier, have you made it down to Metamora since you've been in Indiana? The have an operating stone grist mill, good stuff.

309 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:34:35am

re: #306 Cannadian Club Akbar

Grits with butter RULE!!! Just sayin'...

Add shrimp to that, but you need to know how to make the base.

310 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:35:40am

Oh my..The sports reporters is on...This morning they finally have a woman on the panel.. And who is it? Rachel Nichols...
She is really smart.. And a great reporter
and really smoking hot..
I wish she was on every week my favorite show

311 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:36:12am

re: #308 RogueOne

Hoosier, have you made it down to Metamora since you've been in Indiana? The have an operating stone grist mill, good stuff.

No..where is that?

312 SixDegrees  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:37:30am

re: #290 negativ

I have no idea what "grits" are, but for whatever reason I associate "grits" with "chitlins", and "chitlins" is something I wouldn't eat even if I was starving to death.

Grits == polenta.

313 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:39:27am

re: #312 SixDegrees

Oh, I see.

People eat that on purpose?

314 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:40:40am

re: #290 negativ

I have no idea what "grits" are, but for whatever reason I associate "grits" with "chitlins", and "chitlins" is something I wouldn't eat even if I was starving to death.

I thought I spelled it wrong. Guess not.

315 Mr. Crankypants  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:42:01am

re: #302 Cannadian Club Akbar

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

homeny is a complement to Melody...:)

316 Only The Lurker Knows  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:42:18am

Time to run. Have a good day.

L8R

317 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:42:24am

re: #300 Cannadian Club Akbar

So, we wonna get married soon?
/

I'll have my attorneys talk to your attorneys about the pre-nup.

318 RogueOne  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:42:48am

re: #311 HoosierHoops

No..where is that?

It's on Hwy 52 about an hour outside of Cincinnati, not far from batesville if you take 74. We go down pretty often during the summer, lots of places to canoe and camp.

[Link: www.metamoraindiana.com...]

I'm fascinated by old buildings and technology and Metamora has a working wood aquaduct. It's amazing what people were able to accomplish with such primitive tooling.

319 SixDegrees  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:43:20am

re: #313 negativ

Oh, I see.

People eat that on purpose?

They're great for carb loading. They take the place of potatoes or rice as a bland, starchy base that other foods can impose their flavors upon.

They're not really meant to be eaten by themselves.

320 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:44:31am

re: #317 MandyManners

I'll have my attorneys talk to your attorneys about the pre-nup.

You bring the sexy at bedtime, we good.:)

321 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:45:25am

*blush*

322 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:45:34am

re: #318 RogueOne

It's on Hwy 52 about an hour outside of Cincinnati, not far from batesville if you take 74. We go down pretty often during the summer, lots of places to canoe and camp.

[Link: www.metamoraindiana.com...]

I'm fascinated by old buildings and technology and Metamora has a working wood aquaduct. It's amazing what people were able to accomplish with such primitive tooling.

I'll drive down there this summer to check it out.. My last tour of Indiana...
I missed the bridge festival here...

323 RogueOne  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:46:37am

re: #322 HoosierHoops

When do you take off for good?

324 Mr. Crankypants  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:46:38am

re: #320 Cannadian Club Akbar

You bring the sexy at bedtime, we good.:)

Best leave it where it is...you know the one food that completely destroys a woman's sex drive?

Wedding Cake.

325 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:48:10am

*harumph*

326 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:50:49am

The 8.8-magnitude earthquake that hit Chile early on Feb. 27 was 500 times stronger than the 7.0 quake that killed an estimated 200,000 Haitians last month. And yet the number of casualties in Chile appears to be exponentially smaller, with the official death toll still in the hundreds. Far fewer people were rendered homeless than in Haiti, and much of the telephone service in Santiago and parts of central Chile had been restored within five hours.

Comparisons between the two countries will no doubt be much discussed when the U.N. hosts a conference in New York City on March 31 to hash out how best to help Haiti rebuild. Donor governments already know why there was so much less destruction in Chile: it's because the government there forces builders to adhere to rigorous codes, while Haiti's incorrigible corruption and carelessness left such regulation all but non-existent. On the global corruption index put out by Transparency International, a Berlin-based nonprofit that lists countries from the least to most corrupt, Chile ranks 25th and Haiti 168th. And while Chilean President Michelle Bachelet hit the streets on Saturday reassuring citizens about her government's earthquake response, Haitian President Rene Preval has been AWOL for weeks.

SNIP

327 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:50:57am

re: #323 RogueOne

When do you take off for good?

Winston and I are out of here in August...I'm not taking much to Singapore.. We'll drive to Napa in July and put my stuff in storage including my Car at my dad's house...I'll just rent an apt. in some high rise building in the trade free zone.

328 SixDegrees  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:51:03am

re: #290 negativ

I have no idea what "grits" are, but for whatever reason I associate "grits" with "chitlins", and "chitlins" is something I wouldn't eat even if I was starving to death.

While I agree about chitlins, there's a place here in Detroit that processes and sells all the nasty bits of the pig most people stay far away from. Their motto, which absolutely belongs on a T-shirt, is We Clean the Shit out of Chitlins!

329 Mr. Crankypants  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:51:57am

re: #328 SixDegrees

While I agree about chitlins, there's a place here in Detroit that processes and sells all the nasty bits of the pig most people stay far away from. Their motto, which absolutely belongs on a T-shirt, is We Clean the Shit out of Chitlins!

I always thought it should be spelled shitlins

330 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:53:09am
331 laZardo  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:53:36am

re: #328 SixDegrees

Where I live, I think we call it sizzling sisig.

332 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:56:11am

1960.

Six old volcanoes and three new ones came to angry life as channels cracked open to lava beds. Just north of the town of Rupanco, a flood of boiling lava poured into Lake Ranco and swept over the town. Short moments before, an avalanche had thundered down a nearby mountain, burying 113.

Two small mountains sank out of sight, a 25-mile stretch of high ground dropped 1,000 feet, and new lakes were formed. Volcanic ash rose 23,000 ft. into the sky. Seismic waves washed away 630 of the 800 citizens of the fishing village of Queilen.

SNIP

333 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:58:11am

re: #332 MandyManners

And thus, Taco Bell's dollar menu was born.

334 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:00:00am

The Little green football prayer list

We pray Lord for the people of Chili…Comfort those in need today
We pray Father for The Haitian people ... They cry out for help and comfort in this hour.
Bless those that have died…Comfort the survivors. Heal those that are wounded.
Guide the first responders and the doctors and keep them safe.
Heal their Nation..
FBV: Lord we pray for his mother while she deals with cancer…Bring Strength,
Grace and comfort to her and Veggies Family…
We pray Oh Lord for Lazardo’s Family and His Dad’s health
Ausador: Parents
Guanxi88: Best wishes and lizard mojo to my wife's best friend. her father committed suicide not two weeks after her mother succumbed to cancer.
Reine: Health and Family
gregb - 4 year old son who suffered a head injury last Friday and spent the
weekend in the ICU with some lingering effects all week.
Irish Rose… midlife retraining for a new career
I.R. My Marine was just taken into medical at MCAS Miramar, they think that he may have a blood clot in his leg.
SteveC: Two friends, one needs heart surgery, and one might.
If you could add Sherman Nugent and his family to the prayer list, it would be greatly appreciated. He was a professor at my school since 1968, and a good friend to many. He only stopped teaching and conducting research a couple of semesters ago. Not sure if adding a link to obituaries is customary or not, but here it is: link
Thanks
Dark_Falcon Hoops, I have a late addition to the Prayer List: Last week my siter fell and seriously fractured her ankle. She has cerebral palsy, and though two surgeries have enabled her to walk normally, when she hurries she can still fall sometimes. This time she got hurt badly and your thoughts and prayers are appreciated.
My other friend got a surgical date in January. She quickly got tired of the waiting and asked the surgeon if she could reschedule earlier. Now she's set for Nov 16
Jadespring: Our prayers go out to your sister…May she be healed
Baseballmom57: My God grant grace and healing to her son…

lurking faith… prayers for an aunt
,
Beekiller: Sister has been diagnosed with Cancer…We pray for a speedy recovery
Wlewisiii: Son John has the H1N1 flu….May God touch and heal him this morning
FBV: Add my friend Jeff. Recently diagnosed with ALS. His family will watch him fade and die over the next three to five years. Wife and two kids (kids are young adults).
Prairiefire: Health for Family and friends
Mcspiff: if you could add my uncle to the list. He went in for surgery today and it didn't go so well. Extra organs had to come out, etc. Still just hearing bits and pieces now. But any prayers would be greatly appreciated.
Yesandno’s husband passed away Friday.. Pray for her comfort
Thank you Lord
In Memoriam:
Obi Wan
Dublin(CA)Dude
USMC 1968
ElderZion
All our Troops who have died protecting our Freedom and their families.
Lord. Hear our Prayers

335 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:01:18am

Indian fighter jets pounded mock enemy bunkers close to the Pakistan border on Sunday in a symbolic show of air power at a time when the two nuclear-armed rivals are trying to improve relations.

The exercise was watched by military attaches from about 30 countries but not Pakistan and China, neighbors who would be keen to take a look at India's military firepower.

It follows the first official talks between India and Pakistan since the militant attacks in Mumbai in 2008.

The talks ended with an agreement to keep in touch, signaling relations remain fraught despite a desire to reopen a dialogue that India suspended after the Mumbai killings.

SNIP

336 laZardo  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:06:00am

re: #334 HoosierHoops

Amendment plz:

Dad is actually in relatively good health. He's applying for an Asian Olympic Committee-run sporting event in Oman that pays enough to alleviate the financial problems my family's in and he needs to pass the medical test there (as well as wait on his visa, as Oman is backwater compared to neighbor UAE and thus isn't as...hasty about things.)

337 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:06:28am

re: #335 MandyManners

You know who could solve that region's problems once and for all?

That's who.

338 laZardo  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:08:02am

Anyhoo, headin to bed. Nighty.

339 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:08:06am

A high-profile Nigerian government minister on Sunday accused people surrounding the country's ailing president of sneaking him back into the oil-rich nation for their own gain after his lengthy hospitalization abroad.

Information Minister Dora Akunyili also told the Nigerian newspaper ThisDay that no one has seen President Umaru Yar'Adua besides his wife and few other trusted aides since he returned Wednesday — not even the nation's acting president.

Yar'Adua, 58, arrived in Nigeria under the cover of darkness at the nation's capital airport, an adviser said, apparently leaving in an ambulance escorted by a heavily armed military guard. He had left the country Nov. 23 and spent three months at a Saudi hospital, where his physician said he had been diagnosed with acute pericarditis, an inflammation of the sac surrounding the heart.

SNIP

340 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:08:14am

I don't want to make apple pie, or the universe.

I just want a hot cup of coffee.
(fresh, with cream and sugar)

HOw are you-all this morning?

341 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:11:10am

re: #337 negativ

You know who could solve that region's problems once and for all?

[Video]

That's who.

It won't play for me but here's a lovely and rhythmic tune from India.

342 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:11:39am

re: #340 ggt

I don't want to make apple pie, or the universe.

I just want a hot cup of coffee.
(fresh, with cream and sugar)

HOw are you-all this morning?

I've been up for five hours.

343 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:11:49am

re: #340 ggt

I don't want to make apple pie, or the universe.

I just want a hot cup of coffee.
(fresh, with cream and sugar)

HOw are you-all this morning?

Good Morning ggt
No sugar girl! It will kill you in the end.. Go sweet and low or something
*wink*

344 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:12:21am

re: #322 HoosierHoops

I'll drive down there this summer to check it out.. My last tour of Indiana...
I missed the bridge festival here...

That part of the country is exceptionally beautiful. Mark Twain-type country.

345 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:12:59am

re: #343 HoosierHoops

Good Morning ggt
No sugar girl! It will kill you in the end.. Go sweet and low or something
*wink*

That stuff will kill me too. For only 16 calories per tsp--I'll go with the old fashioned stuff.

346 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:13:16am

re: #342 MandyManners

I've been up for five hours.

I AM Sorry!

347 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:13:37am

The leader of the armed Basque group ETA was arrested in France on Sunday, officials said, in another setback for the separatists, who have seen five of their commanders taken into custody in the last two years.

ETA chief Ibon Gogeascoechea and two other suspected separatists were arrested in a joint French-Spanish police operation in the village of Cahan, France, following a long surveillance operation on a cottage that had been rented using false identity papers, said Spanish Interior Minister Alferdo Perez Rubalcaba.

"We understand one of those detained is the maximum leader of ETA at this moment," he said at a nationally televised news conference.

The two other suspects were part of an ETA "commando unit" that was preparing "to enter Spain almost certainly with the worst of intentions," Rubalcaba said.

SNIP

348 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:14:48am

re: #346 ggt

When I woke up, I figured I could either fight it and try to go back to sleep or get up and start the day.

349 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:15:28am
350 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:15:30am

With all the natural occurrences lately, I wonder if the TV evangelists an various snake-oil salesmen are making money. Perhaps I should buy stock.

What is the NYSE symbol for Conspiracies Inc? Is there one for Rapture Unlimited?

351 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:16:25am

re: #341 MandyManners

It won't play for me but here's a lovely and rhythmic tune from India.
[Video]

I LOVE that train ride. I actually bought it from iTunes.
Someday I'll see the movie.

352 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:19:31am

re: #334 HoosierHoops

The Little green football prayer list

We pray Lord for the people of Chili…Comfort those in need today
We pray Father for The Haitian people ... They cry out for help and comfort in this hour.
Bless those that have died…Comfort the survivors. Heal those that are wounded.
Guide the first responders and the doctors and keep them safe.
Heal their Nation..
FBV: Lord we pray for his mother while she deals with cancer…Bring Strength,
Grace and comfort to her and Veggies Family…
We pray Oh Lord for Lazardo’s Family and His Dad’s health
Ausador: Parents
Guanxi88: Best wishes and lizard mojo to my wife's best friend. her father committed suicide not two weeks after her mother succumbed to cancer.
Reine: Health and Family
gregb - 4 year old son who suffered a head injury last Friday and spent the
weekend in the ICU with some lingering effects all week.
Irish Rose… midlife retraining for a new career
I.R. My Marine was just taken into medical at MCAS Miramar, they think that he may have a blood clot in his leg.
SteveC: Two friends, one needs heart surgery, and one might.
If you could add Sherman Nugent and his family to the prayer list, it would be greatly appreciated. He was a professor at my school since 1968, and a good friend to many. He only stopped teaching and conducting research a couple of semesters ago. Not sure if adding a link to obituaries is customary or not, but here it is: link
Thanks
Dark_Falcon Hoops, I have a late addition to the Prayer List: Last week my siter fell and seriously fractured her ankle. She has cerebral palsy, and though two surgeries have enabled her to walk normally, when she hurries she can still fall sometimes. This time she got hurt badly and your thoughts and prayers are appreciated.
My other friend got a surgical date in January. She quickly got tired of the waiting and asked the surgeon if she could reschedule earlier. Now she's set for Nov 16
Jadespring: Our prayers go out to your sister…May she be healed
Baseballmom57: My God grant grace and healing to her son…

lurking faith… prayers for an aunt
,
Beekiller: Sister has been diagnosed with Cancer…We pray for a speedy recovery
Wlewisiii: Son John has the H1N1 flu….May God touch and heal him this morning
FBV: Add my friend Jeff. Recently diagnosed with ALS. His family will watch him fade and die over the next three to five years. Wife and two kids (kids are young adults).
Prairiefire: Health for Family and friends
Mcspiff: if you could add my uncle to the list. He went in for surgery today and it didn't go so well. Extra organs had to come out, etc. Still just hearing bits and pieces now. But any prayers would be greatly appreciated.
Yesandno’s husband passed away Friday.. Pray for her comfort
Thank you Lord
In Memoriam:
Obi Wan
Dublin(CA)Dude
USMC 1968
ElderZion
All our Troops who have died protecting our Freedom and their families.
Lord. Hear our Prayers

I would like to add the people that broke into my house. I hope all you have stolen makes comforts for you. Amen.

353 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:20:32am
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe.

Which is why, when I get pie, I thank God first, and then my mom.

354 dugmartsch  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:20:42am

Cosmos remix

Reminded me to watch this again. If you haven't seen this yet you really should.

355 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:23:05am
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe.

— Carl Sagan

Fine honey, I'll never ask you to help me in the kitchen again!

356 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:23:47am

re: #352 Cannadian Club Akbar

I would like to add the people that broke into my house. I hope all you have stolen makes comforts for you. Amen.

And I mean this. I'm not trying to be a wise ass.

357 darthstar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:24:38am

re: #353 Cato the Elder

Which is why, when I get pie, I thank God first, and then my mom.

I thank the apple first, for it had no choice.

358 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:25:36am

re: #351 ggt

I LOVE that train ride. I actually bought it from iTunes.
Someday I'll see the movie.

It's from a movie?

359 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:26:22am

re: #349 MandyManners

Hat-tip to Kilgore.

That's a lovely way to start the morning. Thanks.

360 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:26:33am

re: #352 Cannadian Club Akbar

I still can't figure out how they got your John Deere. Didn't anyone notice?

361 cliffster  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:26:51am

re: #334 HoosierHoops

Thanks HH

362 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:26:56am

re: #359 Killgore Trout

That's a lovely way to start the morning. Thanks.

You're welcome. I'm playing it again.

363 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:27:25am

re: #358 MandyManners

It's from a movie?

yup

364 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:27:52am

re: #356 Cannadian Club Akbar

And I mean this. I'm not trying to be a wise ass.

I'm very sorry...
So there I was at a party in San Fran and when I woke up Sunday morning and my classic 1953 Nash Ambassador was stolen...
The SF Cops told me there wasn't a chance in hell they will ever find that car..
They were right....The parts are so rare...

365 RogueOne  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:28:04am

re: #352 Cannadian Club Akbar

I would like to add the people that broke into my house. I hope all you have stolen makes comforts for you. Amen.

Someone broke into your place? I missed that. What happened?

366 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:28:17am

re: #352 Cannadian Club Akbar

I would like to add the people that broke into my house. I hope all you have stolen makes comforts for you. Amen.

Sounds like you could use a Jindo.

Jindos serve as excellent watchdogs, able to distinguish family from foe, friends from strangers. The Korean Army is known to use Jindos as guard dogs at major bases. Because Jindos rarely bark aggressively, especially in familiar environments, an owner may lend special credence to the warning of his/her pet. Many Jindos do not take any food from anyone other than their owners.

Haku is my alarm system. Then, there's my backup.

Of course neither helps if you're not home.

367 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:29:02am

re: #363 ggt

I've never got into Bollywood.

368 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:29:11am

re: #362 MandyManners

You're welcome. I'm playing it again.

Every time I watch that vid, I see something I didn't notice before. I am totally amazed at the quality of the production. Really makes me want to see the movie.

369 cliffster  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:29:40am

re: #348 MandyManners

When I woke up, I figured I could either fight it and try to go back to sleep or get up and start the day.

I have that dilemma pretty often. Seems absurd to be up and about at 4:00, but staring at the darkness is pretty absurd too

370 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:29:51am

re: #357 darthstar

I thank the apple first, for it had no choice.

Brother apple, thank you for giving us sustenance through thy precious body. So we pray. Amen.

371 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:30:15am

re: #367 MandyManners

I've never got into Bollywood.

They make some pretty good stuff.

372 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:30:22am

re: #368 ggt

Every time I watch that vid, I see something I didn't notice before. I am totally amazed at the quality of the production. Really makes me want to see the movie.

I like the beat and the "sway" effect of the music. I can't listen to it without moving.

373 RogueOne  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:30:36am

re: #366 Cato the Elder

Haku is my alarm system. Then, there's my backup.

Of course neither helps if you're not home.

Someone kicked in my front door last year. Dobes don't bark either, they don't want to give you any warning. Whoever kicked in the door ran into the dogs and changed their minds.

374 cliffster  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:30:44am

re: #357 darthstar

I thank the apple first, for it had no choice.

How very Carlos Castaneda of you

375 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:30:47am

re: #369 cliffster

I have that dilemma pretty often. Seems absurd to be up and about at 4:00, but staring at the darkness is pretty absurd too

Beats staring at your navel.

376 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:31:15am

re: #373 RogueOne

Someone kicked in my front door last year. Dobes don't bark either, they don't want to give you any warning. Whoever kicked in the door ran into the dogs and changed their minds.

I'd love to see the video of THAT!

377 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:31:36am

re: #371 ggt

They make some pretty good stuff.

Is it as violent and rife with gratuitous nudity as Hollywood?

378 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:32:33am

re: #373 RogueOne

Someone kicked in my front door last year. Dobes don't bark either, they don't want to give you any warning. Whoever kicked in the door ran into the dogs and changed their minds.

Which movie was it where Ahnold calls them "four-legged razor wire" or something like that?

379 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:33:16am

re: #373 RogueOne

Someone kicked in my front door last year. Dobes don't bark either, they don't want to give you any warning. Whoever kicked in the door ran into the dogs and changed their minds.

Our husky and red healer are great alarms... if they are in the right place when they need to be... last summer when the bear tore apart our front porch, we had forgot to put the dogs out that night... they were curled up in the house... it helps to put the alarms where they will be most effective.

I've actually seen the red healer chase a bear, trying to nip at the bears back legs.

380 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:34:02am

re: #377 MandyManners

Is it as violent and rife with gratuitous nudity as Hollywood?

Unfortunately not.

381 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:36:04am

re: #379 Walter L. Newton

Our husky and red healer are great alarms... if they are in the right place when they need to be... last summer when the bear tore apart our front porch, we had forgot to put the dogs out that night... they were curled up in the house... it helps to put the alarms where they will be most effective.

I've actually seen the red healer chase a bear, trying to nip at the bears back legs.

And I've seen your husky sleeping comfortably in the snow, like in the movies. Give them both an ear-scratch for me.

382 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:36:27am

re: #377 MandyManners

Is it as violent and rife with gratuitous nudity as Hollywood?

More musical, high quality--I get the feeling that the Bollywood producers have taken from Hollywood what they needed and haven't sacrificed their own culture for it.

Very creative people. That train video, for example. The music and dance are incorporated into the sounds and movement of the train--comforting and energizing at the same time. The use of the darkness in the tunnels and traditional dance moves is incredible to me.

383 Bob Dillon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:37:09am

A senior citizen drove his brand new Corvette convertible out of the dealership.

Taking off down the road, he floored it to 80 m.p.h., enjoying the wind blowing through what little hair he had left. "Amazing," he thought as he flew down I-95, pushing the pedal even more.

Looking in his rear view mirror, he saw a state trooper behind him, lights flashing and siren blaring.

He floored it to 100 mph, then 110, then 120. Suddenly he thought, "What am I doing? I'm too old for this," and pulled over to await the trooper's arrival.

Pulling in behind him, the trooper walked up to the Corvette, looked at his watch, and said, "Sir, my shift ends in 30 minutes. Today is Friday. If you can give me a reason for speeding that I've never heard before, I'll let you go."

The old gentleman paused. Then said, "Years ago, my wife ran off with a state trooper. I thought you were bringing her back."

"Have a good day, sir," replied the trooper.

384 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:37:10am

re: #377 MandyManners

Is it as violent and rife with gratuitous nudity as Hollywood?

Nudity is never gratuitous.

385 RogueOne  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:37:36am

re: #376 ggt

They shut the storm door and left. I was out of town when it happened or the door probably wouldn't have even been locked. I'll leave for the day with the windows open just because I can with those 2. They'll let you in, getting out is going to be a problem.

386 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:37:53am

i have left my front door open for weeks at a time. They stole my Deere but left my lap top. If I find who dunnit, they will have me (5"11-175) my brother (6'2"-240) and my youngest brother (6'3"-160) to deal with. And if you think we ain;t rednecks, guess again

387 cliffster  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:38:07am

Time to plant for the summer crops. Trying to decide what fresh yuminess we want this year

389 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:38:36am

re: #193 MandyManners
The more I learn the more I think there will never be a political party of significance I can join and be proud of. What a damn shame, there was once a day when we could be proud of our parties, either one.

390 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:38:50am

re: #380 Walter L. Newton

Unfortunately not.

I don't mind the violence but, how's about some nudity of MEN for a change?

391 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:39:26am

re: #382 ggt

More musical, high quality--I get the feeling that the Bollywood producers have taken from Hollywood what they needed and haven't sacrificed their own culture for it.

Very creative people. That train video, for example. The music and dance are incorporated into the sounds and movement of the train--comforting and energizing at the same time. The use of the darkness in the tunnels and traditional dance moves is incredible to me.

Insightful analysis.

392 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:39:27am

re: #380 Walter L. Newton

Unfortunately not.

So you are saying when you saw Nicole Kidman take off her clothes and skinny dip in Billy Bathe you didn't say holy crap? How about Kate Winslet in Titanic?
We need more Hollywood nudity!
*wink*

393 cliffster  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:39:40am

re: #390 MandyManners

I don't mind the violence but, how's about some nudity of MEN for a change?

Be careful what you ask for

394 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:39:48am
395 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:40:00am

re: #381 Cato the Elder

And I've seen your husky sleeping comfortably in the snow, like in the movies. Give them both an ear-scratch for me.

They are being walked by the older step-critter right now, but I will do that when they come back.

Looks like up to 4 inches of snow tonight. I have to go to downtown Denver Monday AM to pick up some prescriptions and then I have a dental appointment in Golden, but I may reschedule all that if the roads are snow packed in the morning.

One small advantage of being unemployed, one it not required to trek out in the nasty weather on the same schedule as the rest of the world.

396 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:40:07am

re: #384 Cato the Elder

Nudity is never gratuitous.

*shaking head*

397 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:40:07am

re: #391 MandyManners

Insightful analysis.

I'm an art major.

398 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:40:37am

re: #386 Cannadian Club Akbar

i have left my front door open for weeks at a time. They stole my Deere but left my lap top. If I find who dunnit, they will have me (5"11-175) my brother (6'2"-240) and my youngest brother (6'3"-160) to deal with. And if you think we ain;t rednecks, guess again

HOW DID THEY GET THE DEERE?

399 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:40:42am

I have to go, have a great day all!

400 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:40:58am

re: #390 MandyManners

I don't mind the violence but, how's about some nudity of MEN for a change?

You want I should send pictures?

401 RogueOne  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:40:58am

re: #379 Walter L. Newton

Good dogs! Dogs, even little dogs, are the best alarm system a person can have. There has just been one murder in my area over the last couple of decades. It happened when some guy got in a basement window and raped/killed the daughter while the family slept upstairs never hearing a thing. If they would have had just one dog it might have ended differently.

402 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:41:12am

re: #398 MandyManners

HOW DID THEY GET THE DEERE?

rifle?

403 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:41:53am

re: #383 Bobibutu

A senior citizen drove his brand new Corvette convertible out of the dealership.

Taking off down the road, he floored it to 80 m.p.h., enjoying the wind blowing through what little hair he had left. "Amazing," he thought as he flew down I-95, pushing the pedal even more.

Looking in his rear view mirror, he saw a state trooper behind him, lights flashing and siren blaring.

He floored it to 100 mph, then 110, then 120. Suddenly he thought, "What am I doing? I'm too old for this," and pulled over to await the trooper's arrival.

Pulling in behind him, the trooper walked up to the Corvette, looked at his watch, and said, "Sir, my shift ends in 30 minutes. Today is Friday. If you can give me a reason for speeding that I've never heard before, I'll let you go."

The old gentleman paused. Then said, "Years ago, my wife ran off with a state trooper. I thought you were bringing her back."

"Have a good day, sir," replied the trooper.

LMAO.

True story: A friend of mine was driving in the Southwest, where they tend not to care about speeding so much, in his Jaguar XM8. Doing 120 (top speed for the American model: 157 mph).

Trooper appears behind him. He pulls over.

Trooper asks if he can try the car till the next rest stop. Gives my friend the keys to the patrol car. Takes off like a bat out of hell. They get to the next stop, swap keys, and the trooper thanks him for a fun time.

True story.

404 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:42:04am

re: #387 cliffster

Time to plant for the summer crops. Trying to decide what fresh yuminess we want this year

I'm considering fencing in part of my garden to keep the deer and bunnies away so that I can grow bibb lettuce.

405 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:42:05am

re: #398 MandyManners

HOW DID THEY GET THE DEERE?

Broke in while I was gone.

406 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:42:47am

re: #387 cliffster

Time to plant for the summer crops. Trying to decide what fresh yuminess we want this year

I highly recommend Kohlrabi. Grows very quickly (about 60 days) and is very productive. It has a great light cabbage like flavor. Great eaten raw in salad or slaw or added to soups and stews. Also stores very well.

407 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:42:50am

re: #401 RogueOne

Good dogs! Dogs, even little dogs, are the best alarm system a person can have. There has just been one murder in my area over the last couple of decades. It happened when some guy got in a basement window and raped/killed the daughter while the family slept upstairs never hearing a thing. If they would have had just one dog it might have ended differently.

Yup. I'm rather respectful of even little dogs. A four pound yorkie can be mighty hard to cacth or kick and can make plenty of racket. They have teeth too!

Really gone.

408 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:43:10am

re: #389 Rightwingconspirator

The more I learn the more I think there will never be a political party of significance I can join and be proud of. What a damn shame, there was once a day when we could be proud of our parties, either one.

Corrupt Republicans get run out of town routinely while corrupt Democrats seem to become only more entrenched.

409 RogueOne  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:43:24am

re: #386 Cannadian Club Akbar

i have left my front door open for weeks at a time. They stole my Deere but left my lap top. If I find who dunnit, they will have me (5"11-175) my brother (6'2"-240) and my youngest brother (6'3"-160) to deal with. And if you think we ain;t rednecks, guess again

They stole your tractor?

410 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:43:26am

re: #393 cliffster

Be careful what you ask for

Seriously. I might change my avatar just to oblige Mandy.

411 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:43:55am

re: #405 Cannadian Club Akbar

Broke in while I was gone.

If I was home, we would be talking about a GSW.

412 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:44:01am

re: #410 Cato the Elder

Seriously. I might change my avatar just to oblige Mandy.

OMG!

(will not hit reset, pass go or collect $200)

413 cliffster  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:44:01am

re: #406 Killgore Trout

I highly recommend Kohlrabi. Grows very quickly (about 60 days) and is very productive. It has a great light cabbage like flavor. Great eaten raw in salad or slaw or added to soups and stews. Also stores very well.

Yeah? How does it do in the central texas heat?

414 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:44:36am

re: #393 cliffster

Be careful what you ask for

Okay.

415 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:44:37am

re: #395 Walter L. Newton

Unemployed? I must have missed something.

What, were you too efficient for that store?

416 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:44:53am

re: #394 ggt

Beautiful lyrics, reallly.

Intimate.

417 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:45:17am

re: #397 ggt

I'm an art major.

So you have a keen eye for that sort of thing.

418 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:45:43am

re: #400 Walter L. Newton

You want I should send pictures?

*shaking head*

419 cliffster  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:46:25am

re: #414 MandyManners

Yeah, sure, but you know they are gay

420 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:46:35am

re: #405 Cannadian Club Akbar

Broke in while I was gone.

But, how did they get it without the neighbors noticing? It's not as if you can stuff that into a pillow case.

421 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:47:09am

re: #410 Cato the Elder

Seriously. I might change my avatar just to oblige Mandy.

See No. 414.

422 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:47:51am

re: #419 cliffster

Yeah, sure, but you know they are gay

They are FIREFIGHTERS.

423 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:47:52am

re: #420 MandyManners

But, how did they get it without the neighbors noticing? It's not as if you can stuff that into a pillow case.

Everybody lives on 5 acres.

424 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:50:41am

re: #423 Cannadian Club Akbar

And I can't ask the neighbors when I have to watch mom's house in the city. I am at a loss. My patience is growing thin.

425 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:51:26am

re: #422 MandyManners

They are FIREFIGHTERS.

Doesn't mean they can't be ghey.

426 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:52:28am

re: #422 MandyManners

They are FIREFIGHTERS.

I sent you a picture of my Marine Son about a year ago.. did you ever see it?

427 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:52:38am

re: #413 cliffster

Yeah? How does it do in the central texas heat?

If you use it as a sping and fall crop it'll be ok. You could also probably use it as a winter crop too. However if it gets too much summer heat it gets a little tough.

428 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:52:40am

re: #424 Cannadian Club Akbar

And I can't ask the neighbors when I have to watch mom's house in the city. I am at a loss. My patience is growing thin.

In that case, go for the Doberman, not the Jindo.

Get electronic fence and keep him turned loose on the property while you're gone. Problem solved.

429 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:52:51am

Just breezing in to wish everyone a good morning. The thread took so long to read that I've got no time to post. Still, make sure you enjoy today.

BBT

430 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:53:14am

re: #341 MandyManners

A few years ago, I saw Ravi Shankar at SMU's McFarlin Auditorium. For almost 3 hours, this guy in his 80s just sat on the floor and blazed. It was one of the most awesome concerts I've ever seen. It ranks up there with seeing Alan Holdsworth, Chad Wackerman, and Jimmy Johnson performing in front of an audience of about 100 people at Dan's Silver Leaf in Denton.

431 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:53:16am

re: #415 Cato the Elder

Unemployed? I must have missed something.

What, were you too efficient for that store?

You nailed it. A number of factors, but a lot of it comes down to I could see I was upsetting the status quo, and I wasn't going to get support from the store manager. I over heard the district manager telling the store manager furniture department looked "extraordinary" (I rearranged it to be neater and more accessible) yet the manager never passed on the compliments.

I asked for wall signage so you could see where the used furniture department was (my department was in corner of large super market sized store), and he kept telling me he ordered the signs and they were ready, but they never showed up in two months.

And to top things off, there was one "crazy" employee who kept making vague threat to me (and others) about this or that, I pointed this out to the manager, the manager didn't want to get involved.

My bottom line opinion, this guy facilitated, he didn't manage and we were not going to get along down the road.

I quit... I'm too type "A" for a place where you have people just happy to matriculate... I'm a square peg in a black hole.

The lovely lady and I agree, I need to hold out until I can get programming work again, part time, contract or full time, doesn't matter, that's what I do the best and I can "play better" with that sort of work environment.

432 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:53:31am

re: #423 Cannadian Club Akbar

Everybody lives on 5 acres.

Ah. Still, those were gutsy burglars. I wodner if they'd been on your property before.

433 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:53:55am

re: #418 MandyManners

*shaking head*

Right to left or up and down :)

434 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:54:12am

re: #425 Cato the Elder

Doesn't mean they can't be ghey.

*stomps foot*

I was responding to the notion that the only incredibly buff men are gay.

435 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:54:26am

re: #428 Cato the Elder

In that case, go for the Doberman, not the Jindo.

Get electronic fence and keep him turned loose on the property while you're gone. Problem solved.

I like German Shepards.

436 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:54:29am

re: #426 HoosierHoops

I sent you a picture of my Marine Son about a year ago.. did you ever see it?

I do believe so.

437 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:55:39am

re: #425 Cato the Elder

Doesn't mean they can't be ghey.

Yeah, I knew some gay firefighters when I was an EMT.

438 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:56:03am

re: #434 MandyManners

*stomps foot*

I was responding to the notion that the only incredibly buff men are gay.

I'm not gay nor buff. Wait? What?

439 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:56:08am

re: #430 negativ

A few years ago, I saw Ravi Shankar at SMU's McFarlin Auditorium. For almost 3 hours, this guy in his 80s just sat on the floor and blazed. It was one of the most awesome concerts I've ever seen. It ranks up there with seeing Alan Holdsworth, Chad Wackerman, and Jimmy Johnson performing in front of an audience of about 100 people at Dan's Silver Leaf in Denton.

I've never been into Indian music. Well, except for Chaiyya Chaiyya.

440 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:56:13am

re: #436 MandyManners

I do believe so.

He is very strong and handsome...
I brag too much about my children.. But they make me very proud

441 cliffster  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:56:24am

re: #427 Killgore Trout

If you use it as a sping and fall crop it'll be ok. You could also probably use it as a winter crop too. However if it gets too much summer heat it gets a little tough.

Cool, thanks for the tip. Maybe I'll throw it in the front yard. I'm going to do a garden in the front as well this year, with lettuce and other more attractive plants.

442 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:57:10am

re: #433 Walter L. Newton

Right to left or up and down :)

I suspect there's something dirty in your reply but I'm too wired on tea to figure it out.

443 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:57:21am

I'd like to see an LGF Poll question about these issues:

Which issue is most important to you:

1. Climate Change
2. Health care reform in the US
3. The Economy
4. National Defense/Foreign Policy

This board will have a range of responses ....

444 cliffster  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:57:48am

re: #440 HoosierHoops

He is very strong and handsome...
I brag too much about my children.. But they make me very proud

One cannot possibly brag too much about one's children.

445 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:57:57am

I'm making egg goop for brunch so I gotta' go get the eggs boiling.

446 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:58:15am

re: #431 Walter L. Newton

Damn.

Well, while you're whiling time away, there's a good dog movie you can watch with the critters. "Eight Below."

For your enticement, let me just point out that it stars Moon Bloodgood as an Antarctic bush pilot.

447 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:58:17am

re: #443 _RememberTonyC

I'd like to see an LGF Poll question about these issues:

Which issue is most important to you:

1. Climate Change
2. Health care reform in the US
3. The Economy
4. National Defense/Foreign Policy

This board will have a range of responses ...

5. Pizza

448 SixDegrees  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:58:23am

re: #443 _RememberTonyC

I'd like to see an LGF Poll question about these issues:

Which issue is most important to you:

1. Climate Change
2. Health care reform in the US
3. The Economy
4. National Defense/Foreign Policy

This board will have a range of responses ...

3. If the economy is strong and healthy, everything else pretty much follows.

449 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:58:52am

re: #439 MandyManners

I've never been into Indian music. Well, except for Chaiyya Chaiyya.

I like this song and video:

I never would have heard of it if I hadn't seen the movie Ghost World.

450 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:58:59am

re: #443 _RememberTonyC

I'd like to see an LGF Poll question about these issues:

Which issue is most important to you:

1. Climate Change
2. Health care reform in the US
3. The Economy
4. National Defense/Foreign Policy

This board will have a range of responses ...

3. The Economy

451 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:01:28am

I need to go away for a bit.

452 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:01:36am

re: #443 _RememberTonyC

I'd like to see an LGF Poll question about these issues:

Which issue is most important to you:

1. Climate Change
2. Health care reform in the US
3. The Economy
4. National Defense/Foreign Policy

They're all important and need attention ... I rank them in this order:

3
4
2
1

This board will have a range of responses ...

453 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:01:57am

re: #443 _RememberTonyC

I'd like to see an LGF Poll question about these issues:

Which issue is most important to you:

1. Climate Change
2. Health care reform in the US
3. The Economy
4. National Defense/Foreign Policy

This board will have a range of responses ...

Climate change, of course. Otherwise I would be worse than a godforsaken pedophile.

454 cliffster  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:02:44am

re: #453 Cato the Elder

Climate change, of course. Otherwise I would be worse than a godforsaken pedophile.

Troublemaker

455 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:02:52am

re: #445 MandyManners

I'm making egg goop for brunch so I gotta' go get the eggs boiling.

Yikes. I need more caffeine.

My eyes first registered that as "ego poop".

456 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:02:53am

re: #447 Cannadian Club Akbar

5. Pizza

extra strength motrin will help you ...

457 RogueOne  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:03:35am

re: #435 Cannadian Club Akbar

I like German Shepards.

A cam setup is pretty cheap. It won't stop the thieving but at least it would increase the odds of getting your stuff back. Stealing a John Deere tractor in Indiana is a hanging offense. State law.

458 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:04:26am

re: #431 Walter L. Newton

That manager could see clearly that you would have had his job inside a year.

459 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:04:46am

re: #453 Cato the Elder

Climate change, of course. Otherwise I would be worse than a godforsaken pedophile.

weren't those charges dropped?

460 darthstar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:05:20am

re: #443 _RememberTonyC

I'd like to see an LGF Poll question about these issues:

Which issue is most important to you:

1. Climate Change
2. Health care reform in the US
3. The Economy
4. National Defense/Foreign Policy

This board will have a range of responses ...

Economy
Health Care (which will help with the economy)
Foreign policy
National Defense
Climate Change

461 cliffster  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:05:28am

Time to pick up the kitchen then do some running around. Later loosers

462 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:05:35am

re: #443 _RememberTonyC

I'd like to see an LGF Poll question about these issues:

Which issue is most important to you:

1. Climate Change
2. Health care reform in the US
3. The Economy
4. National Defense/Foreign Policy

This board will have a range of responses ...

All the above..
Except for the last year all I've heard every single friccking day is how bad health care is broken.. Really? Maybe pricey but broken?
Bring the price down then...I'm not sure you do that by taxing every thing to pay for healthcare..
I pay 72 dollars a month for my car insurance. If I have to pay a 120 dollars a month just to cover other peoples insurance that say they are too poor then I'm not happy..
That's why Heathcare hit a wall in DC.. We are not stupid

463 RogueOne  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:08:35am

re: #443 _RememberTonyC

I'd like to see an LGF Poll question about these issues:

Which issue is most important to you:

1. Climate Change
2. Health care reform in the US
3. The Economy
4. National Defense/Foreign Policy

3 & 4. I'm not sure #1 & 2 even make my top 10.

My #3 is: Something needs to be done about crappy corporate bands/music. It's for the children.

464 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:09:02am

re: #328 SixDegrees

My (quite possibly wrong) understanding is that "chitterlings" were among the refuse slave owners routinely presented to their slaves, seeing as how they didn't merit actual food.

If that's urban legend, I'll happily be corrected by evidence to the contrary.

465 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:09:35am

Crazy Pam Is shilling hard for the EDL again this morning.

466 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:11:26am

re: #463 RogueOne

3 & 4. I'm not sure #1 & 2 even make my top 10.

My #3 is: Something needs to be done about crappy corporate bands/music. It's for the children.

Yeah. My little niece is addicted to Hannah Montana.

467 RogueOne  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:11:44am

re: #464 negativ

My (quite possibly wrong) understanding is that "chitterlings" were among the refuse slave owners routinely presented to their slaves, seeing as how they didn't merit actual food.

If that's urban legend, I'll happily be corrected by evidence to the contrary.

My theory is poor people will eat anything. They don't let anything go to waste. Look at some of the nasty crap people eat all over the globe.

468 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:12:16am

Happy Purim, my lizardlach. I have already listened to the Megillah, now I have to prepare my Shalach Manot gifts. I am giving out baskets of tropical fruit, sparkling water, and I'm also making sushi platters.

I really wanted to go to Toronto, to be with my son and his family, because Purim is always more fun with little kids, but didn't want to drive in the sloppy snow we were having on Friday. Next year, im irtzah Hashem (that's Hebrew for inshallah)

469 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:12:30am

re: #465 Killgore Trout

Crazy Pam Is shilling hard for the EDL again this morning.

I've been blogging for around 3 years.. Been to her site 1 time..
I could care less about what she says about anything...
I think she has 'issues'

470 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:12:56am

re: #464 negativ

My (quite possibly wrong) understanding is that "chitterlings" were among the refuse slave owners routinely presented to their slaves, seeing as how they didn't merit actual food.

If that's urban legend, I'll happily be corrected by evidence to the contrary.

Chitlins be a delicacy, mon.

They mix them into goose schmaltz in Germany, for the crunch.

471 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:13:48am

re: #470 Cato the Elder

Chitlins be a delicacy, mon.

They mix them into goose schmaltz in Germany, for the crunch.

The kosher version is called gribenes. Zedushka can eat 'em like popcorn.

472 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:14:32am

re: #469 HoosierHoops

I've been blogging for around 3 years.. Been to her site 1 time..
I could care less about what she says about anything...
I think she has 'issues'

Issues. Heh. She puts a couple of them on display any chance she gets.

473 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:14:49am

re: #465 Killgore Trout

Crazy Pam Is shilling hard for the EDL again this morning.


she has something on the David Horowitz "front page magazine" web site that had a number of good points where she BASHED the CPAC convention. She hammered grover norquist. It's was like a "glenn beck" moment when he occasionally makes a good point. The "broken clock" is right twice a day theory ....

474 Jadespring  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:15:39am

re: #441 cliffster

Cool, thanks for the tip. Maybe I'll throw it in the front yard. I'm going to do a garden in the front as well this year, with lettuce and other more attractive plants.

A silver leaf fern tomato works really well in a more ornamental bed. It grows in a more mounding type manner and the leaves look more like an ornamental plant then a regular tomato plant. I stick it in my flower beds and it fits right in.

I also like some of the multicolored chards. They can look really good when planted with other ornamentals and flowers.

475 cliffster  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:16:05am

re: #466 Cato the Elder

Yeah. My little niece is addicted to Hannah Montana.

For christmas when she was three, my girl kid got some Hannah Montana stuff from her step-great-grandmother. My wife and I huddled up and decided she was too young to start the brainwashing. We replaced it with equivalent non-pop-culture stuff. There were tears, oh there were tears. And it may seem petty. But she was three, for God's sake.

ok really out now

476 SixDegrees  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:16:14am

re: #464 negativ

My (quite possibly wrong) understanding is that "chitterlings" were among the refuse slave owners routinely presented to their slaves, seeing as how they didn't merit actual food.

If that's urban legend, I'll happily be corrected by evidence to the contrary.

I believe that's correct, and is one reason those, ham hocks and other less desirable cuts are still widely popular with American blacks. They're just part of their heritage. There's something about the foods you grew up with that keeps you coming back to them.

It should be noted, though, that making use of the entire animal was normally the rule, rather than the exception it's become today. While the slaves might get the less than choice parts, they still weren't simply thrown away or fed to pets, as they are now. In other cultures, chitterlings were used as sausage casings, although this sort of meat preparation doesn't lend itself well to the hot, humid climate of the south.

477 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:18:30am

re: #465 Killgore Trout

I admit mixed feelings about these posts. I'm glad to be updated on such things by way of wariness. On the other hand I had previously, successfully ignored a fool well worth ignoring.

Ah, well ignorance is bliss, knowledge is power.

Thanks KT

478 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:18:50am

re: #471 Alouette

The kosher version is called gribenes. Zedushka can eat 'em like popcorn.

I can't eat crap.. Veggies..Fruit..Lean Chicken or Turkey.. Fresh breads.. eggs...That's real healthy food...I could talk about good food all day..

479 Jadespring  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:20:15am

Speaking of food and gardening. What is the link to the blog where the cookbook and Kilgore's post about food and such? I thought I had it bookedmarked.

480 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:21:05am

re: #479 Jadespring

Speaking of food and gardening. What is the link to the blog where the cookbook and Kilgore's post about food and such? I thought I had it bookedmarked.

Next time reine posts..Just click her nic

481 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:23:20am

re: #439 MandyManners

I've never been into Indian music. Well, except for Chaiyya Chaiyya.

You might or might not like the late Pakistani singer, Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan.

482 SixDegrees  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:23:34am

re: #478 HoosierHoops

I can't eat crap.. Veggies..Fruit..Lean Chicken or Turkey.. Fresh breads.. eggs...That's real healthy food...I could talk about good food all day..

I have to admit to a weakness for natural casing hot dogs. They're just...better than the artificial casings used on most commercial dogs.

483 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:24:05am

re: #469 HoosierHoops

I've been blogging for around 3 years.. Been to her site 1 time..
I could care less about what she says about anything...
I think she has 'issues'

She's certainly crazy but her open support for BNP affiliated groups is part of a larger trend. There's a serious danger or Republicans becoming a whites only, far right nationalist party. Not good.

484 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:24:34am

re: #480 HoosierHoops

Next time reine posts..Just click her nic

My Syracuse Orange are about the be the top ranked hoop team in the nation. What a scene last night in the 'Cuse.

485 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:26:13am

re: #483 Killgore Trout

She's certainly crazy but her open support for BNP affiliated groups is part of a larger trend. There's a serious danger or Republicans becoming a whites only, far right nationalist party. Not good.

I'd also like to add that neo-nazi support for Israel is very bad Israel's already tough public relations effort. The last thing Israel needs is the support of Eurofascists and racists. It doesn't look good.

486 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:26:27am

re: #482 SixDegrees

I have to admit to a weakness for natural casing hot dogs. They're just...better than the artificial casings used on most commercial dogs.

Hot Dogs! Hot Dogs!
/I have a secret food that isn't good for you..Every so often I'll eat corn beef hash...Don't tell anyone

487 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:26:29am

re: #367 MandyManners

I can't back this up with evidence, but I've heard that India produces approximately the same number of films in a month that the US produces in a year.

488 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:26:39am

re: #455 Cato the Elder

Yikes. I need more caffeine.

My eyes first registered that as "ego poop".

It's a roux with chopped eggs. Perfect over English muffins served with bacon and sausage and fruit.

489 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:27:23am

re: #479 Jadespring

Speaking of food and gardening. What is the link to the blog where the cookbook and Kilgore's post about food and such? I thought I had it bookedmarked.

LGF Cookbook. You can scroll down for older posts.

490 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:28:03am

re: #484 _RememberTonyC

My Syracuse Orange are about the be the top ranked hoop team in the nation. What a scene last night in the 'Cuse.

Boy do they have length and skills! Great game

491 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:28:39am

re: #487 negativ

I can't back this up with evidence, but I've heard that India produces approximately the same number of films in a month that the US produces in a year.

no unions?

492 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:28:45am

re: #443 _RememberTonyC

I'd like to see an LGF Poll question about these issues:

Which issue is most important to you:

1. Climate Change
2. Health care reform in the US
3. The Economy
4. National Defense/Foreign Policy

This board will have a range of responses ...

Four, four, four and three.

493 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:30:02am

re: #490 HoosierHoops

Boy do they have length and skills! Great game

Purdue is screwed without Hummel ... But they'll be ranked #2. Do Hoosiers like Boilermakers?

494 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:31:29am

re: #492 MandyManners

Four, four, four and three.

and we know you get it "vis a vis" iran. you could not be more correct.

495 RogueOne  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:32:25am

re: #493 _RememberTonyC

Purdue is screwed without Hummel ... But they'll be ranked #2. Do Hoosiers like Boilermakers?

The rivalry isn't anywhere near as nasty as it was during the days of Keady and Knight.

496 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:34:01am

re: #443 _RememberTonyC

3
4
1
2

497 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:34:03am

re: #493 _RememberTonyC

Purdue is screwed without Hummel ... But they'll be ranked #2. Do Hoosiers like Boilermakers?

When I moved here from California I just loved how Hoosiers Love Basketball..
This place is nuts over basketball.. I love that..
I'll ask Charles later this year to change my nic to SingaporeHoops...
Indiana is Hoops Nation

498 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:34:28am

re: #495 RogueOne

The rivalry isn't anywhere near as nasty as it was during the days of Keady and Knight.

gene keady was cool ..... great hair

499 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:37:11am

re: #497 HoosierHoops

When I moved here from California I just loved how Hoosiers Love Basketball..
This place is nuts over basketball.. I love that..
I'll ask Charles later this year to change my nic to SingaporeHoops...
Indiana is Hoops Nation


when you change your nic, go with a picture of gene hackman for your avatar :)

500 RogueOne  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:38:23am

re: #498 _RememberTonyC

gene keady was cool ... great hair

Worst comb-over ever!

Best Comb-over:

501 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:38:46am

re: #498 _RememberTonyC

gene keady was cool ... great hair

Just so you know...I'm a friend with CW Nevius.. I emailed him every single day for a year to get Knight fired...
If my son played for him and got choked during practice? I'd knock him the fuck out.. It's that simple...And Bobby got fired...There is justice in this world..

502 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:42:23am

re: #500 RogueOne

Worst comb-over ever!

Best Comb-over:

[Video]


LOL ... Gene Keady spent 1:55 less time doing his hair than the guy in the clip!

503 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:45:10am

re: #501 HoosierHoops

Just so you know...I'm a friend with CW Nevius.. I emailed him every single day for a year to get Knight fired...
If my son played for him and got choked during practice? I'd knock him the fuck out.. It's that simple...And Bobby got fired...There is justice in this world..


Bobby was a mad man as a coach, but you'd be surprised how many defenders he has. As a TV announcer, he is outstanding. His analysis has more insight than almost anyone else on TV. And I love that he is the only guy on ESPN who gets to dress casually on the air.

504 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:46:29am

re: #431 Walter L. Newton

I am a math-averse introvert with a misanthropic streak and a low tolerance for tedium.

I picked up Bash shell scripting without much effort, and from there I went on to learn C and Python in short order. Don't mistake that for a brag; I have almost no other skills in life.

Anyway, on Friday my boss told me in no uncertain terms that my tenure as The Tech Guy is over, and I am now "promoted" to a low-level managerial position.

Shit. If they wanted to get rid of me, they should have just fired my ass. Why stretch it out?

Literally overnight, I've gone from having a job I was fairly good at and more or less enjoyed, to having a job that makes me want to punch babies and kick puppies, and for which I have no aptitude whatsoever.

Talk about being set up to fail.

Anyway, if any of you go into work Monday and suddenly find yourself at the mercy of the guy who has always hated you for being unable to correctly set your default printer in the control panel, well... I'm truly sorry. It wasn't my idea.

505 MandyManners  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:49:44am

re: #494 _RememberTonyC

and we know you get it "vis a vis" iran. you could not be more correct.

Iraq. Syria. Lebanon. Yemen. Nigeria. Somalia. Kenya. Ethiopia. Honduras. Venezuela. Cuba. Paraguay (Hizb'allah West).

506 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:50:25am

Police enter Jerusalem holy site


Israeli police have clashed with Palestinian protesters at the Jerusalem compound housing one of the Islam's holiest sites, the al-Aqsa mosque.

Police say they went into the compound to disperse some 20 masked protesters throwing stones at foreign tourists.

The Islamic body which oversees administration of the area disputes the police account of events.

This is the latest in a series of clashes amid high tensions over religious sites in the past week.

The Jerusalem compound also contains the Western Wall, a sacred site for Jews.

Clashes broke out in the West Bank town of Hebron on Friday over Israel's decision to list two disputed shrines as heritage sites.

507 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:51:48am

re: #504 negativ

I am a math-averse introvert with a misanthropic streak and a low tolerance for tedium.

I picked up Bash shell scripting without much effort, and from there I went on to learn C and Python in short order. Don't mistake that for a brag; I have almost no other skills in life.

Anyway, on Friday my boss told me in no uncertain terms that my tenure as The Tech Guy is over, and I am now "promoted" to a low-level managerial position.

Shit. If they wanted to get rid of me, they should have just fired my ass. Why stretch it out?

Literally overnight, I've gone from having a job I was fairly good at and more or less enjoyed, to having a job that makes me want to punch babies and kick puppies, and for which I have no aptitude whatsoever.

Talk about being set up to fail.

Anyway, if any of you go into work Monday and suddenly find yourself at the mercy of the guy who has always hated you for being unable to correctly set your default printer in the control panel, well... I'm truly sorry. It wasn't my idea.


Anyway, on Friday my boss told me in no uncertain terms that my tenure as The Tech Guy is over, and I am now "promoted" to a low-level managerial position.

ask to meet with him on Tuesday or Wednesday and ask him what his top 3 priorities are for you in the new job. push back immediately in a productive way. and then work your ass off on your new goals.

508 Jadespring  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:55:04am

re: #443 _RememberTonyC

I'd like to see an LGF Poll question about these issues:

Which issue is most important to you:

1. Climate Change
2. Health care reform in the US
3. The Economy
4. National Defense/Foreign Policy

This board will have a range of responses ...

Number one because it's a root issue that will affect the other three.

509 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:55:39am

re: #504 negativ

I am a math-averse introvert with a misanthropic streak and a low tolerance for tedium.

I picked up Bash shell scripting without much effort, and from there I went on to learn C and Python in short order. Don't mistake that for a brag; I have almost no other skills in life.

Anyway, on Friday my boss told me in no uncertain terms that my tenure as The Tech Guy is over, and I am now "promoted" to a low-level managerial position.

Shit. If they wanted to get rid of me, they should have just fired my ass. Why stretch it out?

Literally overnight, I've gone from having a job I was fairly good at and more or less enjoyed, to having a job that makes me want to punch babies and kick puppies, and for which I have no aptitude whatsoever.

Talk about being set up to fail.

Anyway, if any of you go into work Monday and suddenly find yourself at the mercy of the guy who has always hated you for being unable to correctly set your default printer in the control panel, well... I'm truly sorry. It wasn't my idea.

I know how you feel. I really don't want to manage anyone. I really don't want to run a department, I am not so much a people person (any Lizards have any clues to that statement), and I am most suited to being given a task and finishing it usually better than ever expected.

But I have to have the support structure around me to accomplish that. I really didn't feel I was getting that at the thrift store. They had a inertia there that was on autopilot, and good, bad or indifferent, it seemed like they did not want to "ruin" that.

It was a effort on my part to try something different, something that certainly didn't pay no where near as well as programming jobs, but still, something that was visceral, down to earth, good hard days work, and the money covered my current needs.

I need to hold out this time until I can get back to finding a programming position.

510 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:57:59am

Off to watch "Amadeus". Later, lacerti mei.

511 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:01:42am

Winston chewed up my new 16GB memory stick..
Little bastard! .

512 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:03:37am

re: #511 HoosierHoops

Winston chewed up my new 16GB memory stick..
Little bastard! .

Churchill?

513 albusteve  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:05:19am

Americana on wheels...folk art
Image: 1243624364_DSC_7030000000.JPG

514 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:06:10am

re: #512 Mad Al-Jaffee

Churchill?

My doggie just ate my new memory stick...I can't punish him...
I found it trashed.. Little Bastard!

515 SixDegrees  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:06:55am

re: #511 HoosierHoops

Winston chewed up my new 16GB memory stick..
Little bastard! .

Maybe next time, he'll remember not to.

516 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:08:48am

re: #514 HoosierHoops

My dog is too old to chew stuff, so everything is safe around her, but if there's a thunderstorm when I'm not home I'll find that she's scratched or chewed on a door frame. And she sometimes pees inside the house (not often, but it happens occasionally.)

517 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:08:51am

re: #511 HoosierHoops

Winston chewed up my new 16GB memory stick..
Little bastard! .

That's what you get for forbidding cigars in the house.

518 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:09:37am

re: #516 Mad Al-Jaffee

My dog is too old to chew stuff, so everything is safe around her, but if there's a thunderstorm when I'm not home I'll find that she's scratched or chewed on a door frame. And she sometimes pees inside the house (not often, but it happens occasionally.)

Sounds like my ex-wife.

519 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:09:50am

re: #510 Cato the Elder

The tits version, or the no-tits version?

Either way, tish I'm tea.

520 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:10:13am

re: #517 Cato the Elder

That's what you get for forbidding cigars in the house.

And gin. Apparently Churchill used to mix his martinis by shaking the gin with ice and briefly glancing at a bottle of vermouth.

521 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:15:32am

Good article by Al Gore in the NYT...

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

522 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:15:35am

I just walked to the store. My shorts fell half way down on the journey. I got a "hoot." Is this a bad thing?

523 oldegeezr  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:16:59am

The Sound of Round has weighed in from the southland…

“LIMBAUGH: You know I'm getting so many people -- this Louise Slaughter comment on the dentures? I'm getting so many people -- this is big. I mean, that gets a one-time mention for a laugh, but there are people out there that think this is huge because it's so stupid. I mean, for example, well, what's wrong with using a dead person's teeth? Aren't the Democrats big into recycling? Save the planet? And so what? So if you don't have any teeth, so what? What's applesauce for? Isn't that why they make applesauce”

Ah yes Mr. Limbaugh, let them “eat applesauce”; indeed.

524 RogueOne  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:17:15am

I got another present this morning! 2 tix to next weeks show in Indy:

525 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:17:29am

re: #522 Cannadian Club Akbar

Depends on the store.

526 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:19:18am

re: #525 negativ

Depends on the store.

I was walking. A middle class neighborhood.

527 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:19:46am

re: #520 Mad Al-Jaffee

And gin. Apparently Churchill used to mix his martinis by shaking the gin with ice and briefly glancing at a bottle of vermouth.

Isn't that how everybody does it?

528 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:23:40am

It is about 65 degrees right now. Doors open. Yummy.

529 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:24:34am

re: #527 Cato the Elder

Isn't that how everybody does it?

I usually open the bottle of vermouth and tilt the martini glass over the neck to catch some of the essence before I shake the gin.

530 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:25:04am

re: #529 Mad Al-Jaffee

I usually open the bottle of vermouth and tilt the martini glass over the neck to catch some of the essence before I shake the gin.

Why does anyone bother with a glass?

531 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:25:49am

re: #530 Walter L. Newton

Why does anyone bother with a glass?

You need something to hold the olives.

532 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:26:01am

re: #527 Cato the Elder

My martinis consist of 100-proof potato vodka mixed with a splash of orphan's tears and garnished with a large Psilocybin mushroom. I typically finish one off by shouting "DOWN THE MUTHAFUCKIN HATCH, YO!" and then snorting half my body weight in uncut Peruvian cocaine off the ample breasts of an underage Thai ladyboy. Then I run for congress as a social conservative, and win.

533 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:27:46am

re: #532 negativ

My martinis consist of 100-proof potato vodka mixed with a splash of orphan's tears and garnished with a large Psilocybin mushroom. I typically finish one off by shouting "DOWN THE MUTHAFUCKIN HATCH, YO!" and then snorting half my body weight in uncut Peruvian cocaine off the ample breasts of an underage Thai ladyboy. Then I run for congress as a social conservative, and win.

And I thought Hunter S Thompson was dead.

534 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:28:19am
535 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:29:05am

re: #532 negativ

LMAO!

536 reine.de.tout  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:46:24am

re: #479 Jadespring

Speaking of food and gardening. What is the link to the blog where the cookbook and Kilgore's post about food and such? I thought I had it bookedmarked.

Click my nic.

537 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:01:42am

re: #534 Cato the Elder

In some horrible parallel universe, "Der Hölle Rache kocht in meinem Herzen" was sung by Kenny Rogers and Dolly Parton. The Queen of the Night aria was sung by Kenny.

538 BaseballMom57  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 12:06:04pm

re: #334 HoosierHoops

Amen.

Thank you, Hoops.


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