The Incredibly Strange Browser That Stopped Living But Refused to Die

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Reports of the death of Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 (aka Satan’s Browser) may have been greatly exaggerated.

Today was supposed to be a great day for the Web. As of March 1, 2010, Google will no longer support Microsoft’s Internet Explorer 6 browser—a decade-old dinosaur engineered to navigate the Web as it existed in the year 2000. Why would this be cause for celebration? Because IE6 is barely capable of navigating the modern Web and a total nightmare to build sites, services and applications for.

But ten years after its release, it’s still being used by an estimated 20% of surfers. And while Google’s move is one in the right direction, I’m not breaking out the whiskey and noisemakers for IE6’s funereal wake quite yet. Sadly, IE6 isn’t going away for good anytime soon.

Those unfamiliar with the Internet Explorer 6 saga might be wondering what the big deal is. How could the life or death of one browser be so critical to the future of our increasingly Internet-based lives? When compared to browsers of today, IE6 is a standards-incompliant antique. It debuted during a dark, dark period in Web history; In the summer of 2001, Microsoft had soundly beaten Netscape into submission for a 90% lock on the browser market and was in the uniquely powerful position to decide which Web standards it would ignore, which it would integrate, which it would halfway adopt and which it would simply make up. And IE6 is the bastard child of this hubris. It doesn’t behave like any other browser on the market because it doesn’t interpret Cascading Style Sheets or JavaScript according to the universal standards set by organizations like the W3C. I’ve heard of developers spending anywhere between 20% and 50% of their time on a project making a site work in Internet Explorer 6. I know of many others who simply chop out advanced features, enhanced interactivity and slick design elements altogether, just so their work doesn’t “break” in IE6.

Why do they bother? Because nearly a decade after it shipped with Windows XP, IE6 still commands a mind-blowing 20% market share for browsers, according to the most recent statistics compiled by NetMarketShare. That’s more than double the shares of Chrome and Safari combined, and just shy of Firefox’s 24% piece of the pie. And that’s only Internet Explorer 6. Combined with its better-behaving but by no means perfect descendants, IE7 and IE8, Internet Explorer as a whole owns 62% of the browser market. Now, browser market share is not an exact science and the numbers vary widely from site to site and country to country, but you get the picture.

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1 darthstar  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 5:58:44pm

IE6 was great for automation (my area of expertise)…but I’m using IE7 for that now, and using it well enough that I don’t miss IE6.

2 RogueOne  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 5:59:04pm

I can’t believe people are sill using that POS. I finally installed firefox on my parents machine just a few weeks ago.

3 windsagio  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:00:00pm

Heh, MS doesn’t even have to try in some ways >>

4 freetoken  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:00:21pm

In other news, I saw recently that in OS share, Windows XP is growing….

We live in a strange world.

5 darthstar  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:02:36pm

re: #4 freetoken

I still use windows XP as my primary OS (32 bit version). I have multiple VMs that use XP 64, 2k3 32 & 64, etc…but that’s the cost of working in software.

But I like XP. I trust XP. I never tried Vista, and Windows 7, while it looks like it could be stable, is a few hotfixes away from my trying it, or as my job requires I do so.

6 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:03:35pm

Somehow this reminds me of the awesome and fascinating book I just finished reading, The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks.

7 freetoken  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:03:43pm

re: #5 darthstar

IIRC, the reason given is that the small “netbooks”, which are all over Asia, run XP because Vista and 7 are too big/unworkable.

XP lives!

8 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:05:27pm
But ten years after its release, it’s still being used by an estimated 20% of surfers.

WTF? Why, when so many better alternatives are free to download? Older OS’s still in use, maybe?

9 freetoken  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:05:59pm

A candidate for OUTRAGE ?

President Obama’s other health downfall: pie

Reporting from Washington - The famously self-disciplined president who seemingly can’t miss a morning workout has a secret craving: pie.

The horror of it all.

10 Why I Never!  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:06:44pm
But ten years after its release, it’s still being used by an estimated 20% of surfers.

Just now, in reading SB’s post, I read ‘surfers’ as ‘sufferers’.

11 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:06:53pm

re: #9 freetoken

A candidate for OUTRAGE ?

President Obama’s other health downfall: pie

The horror of it all.

Ha!

12 albusteve  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:08:02pm

never used it….can’t relate

13 freetoken  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:08:09pm

re: #11 Killgore Trout

If the WH chefs cooked for me I’d probably weigh 400 lbs.

14 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:09:12pm

re: #9 freetoken

A candidate for OUTRAGE ?

President Obama’s other health downfall: pie

The horror of it all.

Did you see that picture? He has BLUE TEETH.

15 freetoken  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:10:01pm

re: #14 Alouette

Did you see that picture? He has BLUE TEETH.

I thought all Tau Cetians had blue teeth… no?

16 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:10:02pm

re: #14 Alouette

That’s a sure sign of pie abuse.

17 albusteve  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:10:28pm

re: #14 Alouette

Did you see that picture? He has BLUE TEETH.

definitely just burned a joint….need sweets!

18 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:10:33pm

re: #16 Killgore Trout

That’s a sure sign of pie abuse.

Blueberry pie.

19 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:11:06pm

For the scientist out there… how does the UK Institute of Physics rate in the scientific world? Are they a recognize valid source of scientific thought, understanding, validity?

20 freetoken  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:11:21pm

Where’s Hal Lindsay when you need him:

One in four Germans wants microchip under skin: poll

A poll showed that one in four Germans would be happy to have a microchip implanted in their body if they derived concrete benefits from it.

21 HoosierHoops  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:11:29pm

re: #8 Slumbering Behemoth

WTF? Why, when so many better alternatives are free to download? Older OS’s still in use, maybe?

No..Try making calls into Oracle 11i with any browser besides IE6..
View a table and get back with me.. Firefox doesn’t have any plug ins currently for a download or snap in..People can bitch about corporate usage with browsers all they want.. Write plug-ins for the corporate world and stop complaining.. We will convert when there are available solutions..
It’s that simple.. It’s not always about style sheets.

22 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:11:59pm

UGh, GOP seems eager to make Americans suffer……
GOP Sen. Kyl: Unemployment Benefits Make People Not Want To Get A Job

23 albusteve  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:12:26pm

the President want’s an oz of the good shit….don’t argue, we’ll pay a reasonable price….just imagine

24 freetoken  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:13:08pm

re: #22 Killgore Trout

And if a couple of the downstairs posts are any indication, those GOP politicians will find support.

25 Cato the Elder  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:13:13pm

“Funereal wake”? Is there another kind?

26 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:13:29pm

re: #21 HoosierHoops

Back up and start from the beginning… What is Oracle 11i?

27 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:13:46pm

re: #21 HoosierHoops

No..Try making calls into Oracle 11i with any browser besides IE6..
View a table and get back with me.. Firefox doesn’t have any plug ins currently for a download or snap in..People can bitch about corporate usage with browsers all they want.. Write plug-ins for the corporate world and stop complaining.. We will convert when there are available solutions..
It’s that simple.. It’s not always about style sheets.

And if I’m correct (haven’t played in the Oracle world for over 3 years), Oracle Application Server, which basically dynamically renders Oracle forms and reports into web pages, only works with EI. At least thats the way it was in 2005 when I was at the Lab.

28 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:14:28pm

re: #25 Cato the Elder

“Funereal wake”? Is there another kind?

That’s a matter of Joyce.

29 albusteve  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:15:05pm

re: #22 Killgore Trout

UGh, GOP seems eager to make Americans suffer…
GOP Sen. Kyl: Unemployment Benefits Make People Not Want To Get A Job

some pretty shaky ground..how long should benefits be paid?…two years?…four?…should there be a time limit at all?

30 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:15:48pm

re: #22 Killgore Trout

UGh, GOP seems eager to make Americans suffer…
GOP Sen. Kyl: Unemployment Benefits Make People Not Want To Get A Job

You think that sucks, just wait until the benefits run out and you still can’t find a job.

31 HoosierHoops  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:15:59pm

re: #27 Walter L. Newton

And if I’m correct (haven’t played in the Oracle world for over 3 years), Oracle Application Server, which basically dynamically renders Oracle forms and reports into web pages, only works with EI. At least thats the way it was in 2005 when I was at the Lab.

You are right..Nobody seems to want to render Dbase views in FF.
Somebody could get rich with robust plug-ins for Oracle

32 freetoken  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:16:27pm

re: #19 Walter L. Newton

Why?

33 albusteve  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:17:37pm

re: #24 freetoken

And if a couple of the downstairs posts are any indication, those GOP politicians will find support.

I don’t ‘support’ any politicians other than to agree or disagree with a given position on an issue…

34 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:17:44pm

re: #29 albusteve

Cut them off, unable to pay their mortgages of health care bills. Genius!

35 reine.de.tout  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:18:20pm

re: #14 Alouette

Did you see that picture? He has BLUE TEETH.

Reflection from his tie?

For cripes sake, let the man enjoy his smoking and his pie!
Him having that smoking imperfection makes me feel all warm and fuzzy toward the man. Seriously.

36 albusteve  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:19:25pm

re: #34 Killgore Trout

Cut them off, unable to pay their mortgages of health care bills. Genius!

not much of an answer…so how long should benefits last?

37 darthstar  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:20:03pm

re: #26 Slumbering Behemoth

Back up and start from the beginning… What is Oracle 11i?

Oracle 11i is a pain in the fucking ass. That’s all you need to know.

38 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:20:04pm

re: #31 HoosierHoops

You are right..Nobody seems to want to render Dbase views in FF.
Somebody could get rich with robust plug-ins for Oracle

I remember when Oracle was promising… write your applications in Oracle forms and report, build your PL/SQL code, triggers, snippets, stored procedures… and Oracle Application Server will send them to the web, without you knowing a single HTML tag, or any Java or… well… anything about dynamic web pages.

I was amazed when I first saw this work.

39 Cato the Elder  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:20:38pm

re: #28 Decatur Deb

That’s a matter of Joyce.

[Link: www.youtube.com…]

Finnegans Wake!

40 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:20:59pm

re: #37 darthstar

Probably all I want to know, as well.

41 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:21:57pm

re: #37 darthstar

Oracle 11i is a pain in the fucking ass. That’s all you need to know.

I will be glad to take you pain in the fucking ass job off your hands. Oracle programming positions have seemed to dry up in the Denver area.

Still a small need for Oracle consultants on their off the shelf suite, but for custom Oracle programming… barely nada.

42 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:22:32pm

re: #39 Cato the Elder

Good golly, Miss Molly.

43 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:24:10pm

re: #32 freetoken

Why?

The same reason I would ask about any organization I never heard of before… curious to know how they rate in the scientific community.

44 HoosierHoops  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:24:24pm

re: #37 darthstar

Oracle 11i is a pain in the fucking ass. That’s all you need to know.

Try R12! They never spent anytime on 11i and now with R12 it’s a friccking joke…
If any programmers out there want to get filthy fucking rich? Write plug ins for Firefox to render Oracle API’s..
I seriously get frustrated using IE6 at work.. It’s the only time I use it….

45 torrentprime  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:25:41pm

I work on internal-standard design and coding systems, and IE6 support has been a thorn in our side for years. If it works there, it doesn’t work in any other browser, and vice versa. Separate css, separate js - separate schematics even, sometimes, because a desired experience will never happen in IE6 and we have to gracefully degrade. A plague on it.

That’s all, just not an opinion I get to share online too often.

46 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:25:58pm

re: #39 Cato the Elder

[Link: www.youtube.com…]

Finnegans Wake!

That’s a nice clean version. Youtube problems fixed?

47 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:26:16pm

re: #7 freetoken

IIRC, the reason given is that the small “netbooks”, which are all over Asia, run XP because Vista and 7 are too big/unworkable.

XP lives!

And its still a good OS.

48 HoosierHoops  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:32:10pm

re: #47 Dark_Falcon

And its still a good OS.

Hi Bro..Yet any hack can make a call into the Kernel of XP.
And fuck up the OS any day….But at least MS sends out patches every Tuesday to stop it.. mmmmm..Still hasn’t worked..

49 freetoken  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:37:57pm

re: #43 Walter L. Newton

The IOP has a history section on their website.

They are not exactly the same thing as the AIP. The AIP serves a an umbrella organization that includes professional groups for both the pure physicists and the applied physicists (which outnumber the pure physics people by a large number.) From my understanding of the IOP, they are not the same thing, but do serve a similar purpose for some of the UK physics community.

I can only guess… that you are itching to link to the IOP memorandum that is being splashed all over the AGW denier sites.

50 SteveMcGazi  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 6:59:57pm

re: #4 freetoken

In other news, I saw recently that in OS share, Windows XP is growing

We live in a strange world.

I just bought two little Acer models that run XP. I may get another one. They’re only 200 bucks each. The beauty of them is that I have some applications that won’t run on Vista. The software company says they should run, but they didn’t tell the install wizards. This should give me a couple more years of using MYOB. I just didn’t feel like starting over with new accounting software and importing all the new values and such. It was comical when I was at Best Buy and I wanted a bottom of the line computer. “But sir, this runs XP.” “Isn’t that great?!? Give me two of them.” I don’t remember what version of IE they had, they each downloaded about 100 updates and one of them was IE8. And they actually had XP Professional, so I got the fax utility free. It’s better and faster than scanning. the file sizes are 20% of the size for a given resolution, but I don’t know why, I just like it that way. Instead of scanning, I just fax it in.

51 The Sanity Inspector  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 7:32:01pm

re: #1 darthstar

IE6 was great for automation (my area of expertise)…but I’m using IE7 for that now, and using it well enough that I don’t miss IE6.

[Link: xkcd.com…]

52 The Sanity Inspector  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 7:34:24pm

re: #48 HoosierHoops

Hi Bro..Yet any hack can make a call into the Kernel of XP.
And fuck up the OS any day…But at least MS sends out patches every Tuesday to stop it.. mmm..Still hasn’t worked..

[Link: xkcd.com…]

53 joyousMN  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 7:44:29pm

Charles,

That may be the most depressing thing I’ve read in weeks. Jesus Christo, 20 percent! I knew it was high, I had no idea it was that high.

54 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 7:57:34pm

re: #48 HoosierHoops

Hi Bro..Yet any hack can make a call into the Kernel of XP.
And fuck up the OS any day…But at least MS sends out patches every Tuesday to stop it.. mmm..Still hasn’t worked..

For all its flaws, I still rely on XP for productivity! Still runs things I need to run, still hums along on my old machines. I can literally buy a second Tablet PC for the cost of a Vista license.

(but IE6 is ass, for Chrissake, get Chrome, Firefox, or Opera)

55 Mauser  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 9:30:59pm

re: #22 Killgore Trout

On the other hand, when I tried to raise the issue of perhaps exempting Unemployment benefits from income tax, our brilliant Washington Senators actually told me that taxing the benefits was somehow an incentive to find work. (I forget off the top of my head if that was Cantwell or Murray, but the same one in the next paragraph then crowed about extending benefits).

56 markie  Tue, Mar 2, 2010 2:07:15am

XP runs just fine on my 6YO Dell, and Firefox does what I ask of it. I see no need to change until the computer dies, and I just replaced the PS with an OFF THE SHELF one (so much for the rumors of special Dell components). I do recommend maxing out your RAM as long as it’s reasonably priced.

57 jpkoch  Tue, Mar 2, 2010 5:06:00am

As late as 2005, there was still a 30 million user install base of Win 98 SE worldwide (probably elderly users with modem connections to the Internet). As a user above alluded to, corporate users have steadily turned in their fat clients (Oracle, Client Access) for a web based client using embedded Java apps. In that case, the browser takes on a huge role. Every upgrade of IE means millions of dollars in extra development costs.

What is interesting is the slow but steady migration away from desktop computing. The browsing, therefore, becomes less and less important as time goes buy. The real money lies in Internet appliances which run embedded Java to deliver everything from the time of day to email. Microsoft knows that its business model is dieing. The question is: does MS have they market/technical skills to invent tomorrow’s applications?

58 samsgran1948  Tue, Mar 2, 2010 9:30:24am

re: #56 markie

XP runs just fine on my 6YO Dell, and Firefox does what I ask of it. I see no need to change until the computer dies, and I just replaced the PS with an OFF THE SHELF one (so much for the rumors of special Dell components). I do recommend maxing out your RAM as long as it’s reasonably priced.

I have a five or six year old Gateway that runs XP, and in all that time I’ve never experienced the blue screen of death. The computer this one replaced ran on Windows 98, and the blue screen of death and I were BFF. I had my son-in-law install more RAM so that I’m running on 1 gig of RAM right now. Unfortunately, though, I’m in the market for a new CPU. Last August, my computer sucked up a horrible, awful, no-good virus, and my geek-of-choice had to wipe and rebuild the entire system. As part of the rebuild, he installed the industrial strength Symantic Endpoint Protection. That thing eats resources like there’s no tomorrow, so my computer slows to an absolute crawl a lot of the time. I have to get the new CPU fairly soon because my geek-of-choice is planning on transferring to a new job eight hundred or so miles away, and I want him to transfer all the stuff on this computer to the new computer. I wanted to wait for Windows 7 Service Pack 2 or 3 before making the jump, but with this guy moving, I probably will have to make the change sooner.

59 thepinch  Tue, Mar 2, 2010 9:38:32am

Firefox is beating IE6 46% to 10%. Unless I’m reading that incorrectly the numbers are way off.


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