Video: Breitbart Admits O'Keefe Didn't Dress As a Pimp

Video: Breitbart Admits O’Keefe Didn’t Dress As a Pimp

PoliticsMarch 2010 • Views: 3,669

In an interview with blogger Mike Stark (posted at Crooks and Liars, Brad Blog, and Stark Reports), Andrew Breitbart admits that when he released the James O’Keefe-Hannah Giles undercover ACORN sting videos, he “did not know” that O’Keefe never wore his outrageous pimp costume into an ACORN office — even though it was reported that way by many media outlets, including Fox News and the New York Times.

Here’s the interview, featuring some weird behavior by a visibly enraged Breitbart.

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150 comments

Cato the Elder Tue, Mar 2, 2010 10:36:37am

Ten minutes of Breitbart?

I'd rather eat civet poop.

Kragar Tue, Mar 2, 2010 10:37:06am

DOH!

Aceofwhat? Tue, Mar 2, 2010 10:43:01am

He needs Tylenol. This much digging is guaranteed to yield a backache.

dugmartsch Tue, Mar 2, 2010 10:45:08am

yah i can't watch this...maybe i could read a transcript.

No promises though.

researchok Tue, Mar 2, 2010 10:46:24am

Al Durah lite.

jaunte Tue, Mar 2, 2010 10:46:29am

re: #4 dugmartsch
It has a lot in common with the Monty Python Argument sketch.

jaunte Tue, Mar 2, 2010 10:47:03am

Breitbart obviously took the wrong lesson from Donald Segretti's dirty tricks.

SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 2, 2010 10:47:51am

Well, thank God that was cleared up. I kept seeing the damn outfits, and I could not figure out what was going on with that.

Aceofwhat? Tue, Mar 2, 2010 10:48:40am

re: #6 jaunte

It has a lot in common with the Monty Python Argument sketch.

Shut your festering gob, you tit! Your type really makes me puke, you vacuous, coffee-nosed, malodorous, pervert!

Ice-9 Tue, Mar 2, 2010 10:48:54am

Wow. That was a whole lot of paranoid craziness. "I made you people look ridiculous and for that I'm being attacked."

Glad he cleared that up.

sattv4u2 Tue, Mar 2, 2010 10:53:54am

re: #9 Aceofwhat?

Shut your festering gob, you tit! Your type really makes me puke, you vacuous, coffee-nosed, malodorous, pervert!

"This isn;t an argument"
"yes it is"
"No it's not"
"Oh, yes it is"

Aceofwhat? Tue, Mar 2, 2010 10:55:10am

re: #11 sattv4u2

"This isn;t an argument"
"yes it is"
"No it's not"
"Oh, yes it is"

I've never really understood what 'coffee-nosed' meant as an insult but i like it. Perhaps it pertains to our recent discussion on civets...?

Vicious Babushka Tue, Mar 2, 2010 10:57:17am

re: #12 Aceofwhat?

I've never really understood what 'coffee-nosed' meant as an insult but i like it. Perhaps it pertains to our recent discussion on civets...?

It means ass kisser.

sattv4u2 Tue, Mar 2, 2010 10:57:17am

re: #12 Aceofwhat?

I've never really understood what 'coffee-nosed' meant as an insult but i like it. Perhaps it pertains to our recent discussion on civets...?

The only thing I could think of is because by and large the British are tea totalers, being "coffee nosed" is a put down

Ice-9 Tue, Mar 2, 2010 10:57:25am

re: #12 Aceofwhat?

Actually, it's "toffee nosed," and it means snobby.

sattv4u2 Tue, Mar 2, 2010 10:57:45am

re: #13 Alouette

It means ass kisser.

eeewww ,, makes more sense than my supposition

eeeeww again!

jaunte Tue, Mar 2, 2010 10:58:16am

re: #12 Aceofwhat?

It may have just been a mis-transcription of Graham Chapman saying "toffee-nosed."

sattv4u2 Tue, Mar 2, 2010 10:58:26am

re: #15 Ice-9

Actually, it's "toffee nosed," and it means snobby.

How does ones nose
A) get "toffeed
and
B) why does that = snob!?!?

dugmartsch Tue, Mar 2, 2010 10:58:47am

Ok. I tried to watch because I have the day off and it would have delayed the housework I need to do by a good ten minutes.

I got like 2 minutes in, I think. He started talking about being held to a higher standard and because of that posting the full audio and the transcripts from the video to his website.

Right. Never ever does any news org post transcripts of its interviews to its website, or anything similar.

If you were holding yourself to a higher standard and you were embracing the tenets of 'new media' you would post the entire, unedited video online as a resource for everyone to scour for potential undiscovered wrongdoing. Crowd source to help you figure out just how many laws ACORN broke. You didn't do that. You are new media. You are hiding something.

wrenchwench Tue, Mar 2, 2010 10:59:06am

There sure is a lot of video from CPAC with Breitbart going nuts. I guess he was under a lot of stress.

SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 2, 2010 10:59:49am

re: #12 Aceofwhat?

I've never really understood what 'coffee-nosed' meant as an insult but i like it. Perhaps it pertains to our recent discussion on civets...?

'Toffee-nosed', actually.

Walter L. Newton Tue, Mar 2, 2010 10:59:57am

re: #18 sattv4u2

How does ones nose
A) get "toffeed
and
B) why does that = snob!?!?

Ass kisser... toffee = brown, shit = brown, work it out from there.

Aceofwhat? Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:00:01am

re: #17 jaunte

It may have just been a mis-transcription of Graham Chapman saying "toffee-nosed."

Oh. I always thought he said coffee-nosed.

jaunte Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:00:39am

The Brad Blog gives the Paper of Record some serious and needed criticism:

Friedman spent scores of hours trying to save the New York Times from itself, proving every which way to Sunday that Breitbart and O'Keefe were dishonest hucksters. For all his efforts, Brad asked only for a correction. He asked only that the "paper of record" report accurately. But when Hoyt and the Times finally ran out of excuses and could no longer conjure remotely plausible counterclaims to Friedman's systematic presentation of hard evidence, the paper declared everyone tainted somehow (except themselves of course) and walked away from the table.
[Link: www.bradblog.com...]

shiplord kirel Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:00:53am

Like RSM, Breitbart probably resents being called crazy. So what does he do? He goes out and confronts a known critic who is guaranteed to portray him in the least favorable light, then goes out of his way to act like a complete drooling nutburger.
Isn't this guy supposed to be some kind of media maven?

SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:01:08am

re: #18 sattv4u2

How does ones nose
A) get "toffeed
and
B) why does that = snob!?!?

I've heard various interpretations. The one that sounds most realistic is that it's derived from 'toff', as in 'upper class'.

sattv4u2 Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:01:18am

re: #22 Walter L. Newton

Ass kisser... toffee = brown, shit = brown, work it out from there.

Ass kissers aren't usually snobs!

They're ,,,well,, ass kissers!

sattv4u2 Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:01:37am

re: #26 SanFranciscoZionist

I've heard various interpretations. The one that sounds most realistic is that it's derived from 'toff', as in 'upper class'.

Now that makes sense

jaunte Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:02:24am

re: #27 sattv4u2

Ass kissers aren't usually snobs!

They're ,,,well,, ass kissers!

A.k.a. royal courtiers.

Kragar Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:03:01am

I keep figuring the girl is gonna end up in some amateur porn or sex tape scandal eventually.

Walter L. Newton Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:03:41am

re: #28 sattv4u2

Now that makes sense

According to ``Beau Brumell: The Ultimate Dandy'' by Ian Kelly, ``toff'' and ``toffee-nosed'' refer to the disgusting brown drips from a gent's nose after taking snuff.

SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:04:16am

re: #31 Walter L. Newton

According to ``Beau Brumell: The Ultimate Dandy'' by Ian Kelly, ``toff'' and ``toffee-nosed'' refer to the disgusting brown drips from a gent's nose after taking snuff.

Ah--that fills it in a bit. Thanks.

sattv4u2 Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:06:12am

Well ,,, now that I've been grossed out with references of nose droppings and ass sniffing, what should I have for lunch !?!?

Walter L. Newton Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:06:13am

I'm watching this video... damn... it's been edited to get the best effect of Breitbart stemming out. I call foul.

Cato the Elder Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:06:39am

re: #31 Walter L. Newton

According to ``Beau Brumell: The Ultimate Dandy'' by Ian Kelly, ``toff'' and ``toffee-nosed'' refer to the disgusting brown drips from a gent's nose after taking snuff.

And here I was about to eat lunch.

The funniest thing about people like Breitbart and R.S. McCain is that they fancy themselves "gentlemen" in some atavistic sense of the word.

Stanghazi Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:07:46am

re: #24 jaunte

The Brad Blog gives the Paper of Record some serious and needed criticism:

That is a good read on the whole thing. Thanks for posting.

sattv4u2 Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:08:43am

re: #34 Walter L. Newton

I'm watching this video... damn... it's been edited to get the best effect of Breitbart stemming out. I call foul.

It is hard to watch, for that and a whole host of reasons

Killgore Trout Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:08:56am

What a dishonest scumbag.

SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:09:06am

re: #35 Cato the Elder

And here I was about to eat lunch.

The funniest thing about people like Breitbart and R.S. McCain is that they fancy themselves "gentlemen" in some atavistic sense of the word.

It's not that I don't understand the world they wish to project an impression of having come from--I just don't care.

wrenchwench Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:09:17am

This is from an article about something unrelated, but I guess every article at Big Government is about Andrew Breitbart now:

When Liberal ‘Journalists’ Attack, Real Americans Suffer
[...]

When the going gets tough, the Liberals all pull together on behalf of their team, but conservatives too often pull apart. It’s time we took care of our own – especially when it comes to the life and business-destroying, “just-the-fiction-ma’am” assassinations the Left so revels in and so thinly veils as “journalism.”

So how do we do that? How do we begin to take care of our own? We begin by calling these people out and exposing their lies just as Andrew Breitbart did with Max Blumenthal at CPAC. Simply put, we no longer roll over. We set the record straight and we commit right now to back each other up every time a Liberal journalist attacks. Believe me, Barrett Moore wasn’t the first and he definitely won’t be the last, but working together we will dull the impact of these attacks and eventually drown them out all together.

If you consider yourself a conservative, you are being recruited to back up Breitbart. He's under attack.

Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:09:34am

re: #33 sattv4u2

Well ,,, now that I've been grossed out with references of nose droppings and ass sniffing, what should I have for lunch !?!?

Fudge and chocolate donuts.

Walter L. Newton Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:09:45am

re: #35 Cato the Elder

And here I was about to eat lunch.

The funniest thing about people like Breitbart and R.S. McCain is that they fancy themselves "gentlemen" in some atavistic sense of the word.

I have never seen this guy before, never heard him speak, of course, I know who he was. But this is the first time I have been able to observe him.

He's a lier. The body english, the histrionics, the tone of voice, the strained vocalizations, the deflecting of question, it's extremely obvious.

William of Orange Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:11:03am

New York times is still asleep at the wheel.... Still continuing the pimp and prostitude story, which was a fabrication to begin with.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Kragar Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:11:54am

re: #41 Mad Al-Jaffee

Fudge and chocolate donuts.

lutefisk

Cato the Elder Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:13:02am

re: #34 Walter L. Newton

I'm watching this video... damn... it's been edited to get the best effect of Breitbart stemming out. I call foul.

Done with much irony for your viewing pleasure, I suspect.

re: #42 Walter L. Newton

I have never seen this guy before, never heard him speak, of course, I know who he was. But this is the first time I have been able to observe him.

He's a lier. The body english, the histrionics, the tone of voice, the strained vocalizations, the deflecting of question, it's extremely obvious.

It reminds one of "Balloon Boy's" father, doesn't it?

wrenchwench Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:13:32am

Oh wait, I was wrong. Here's an article frokm Big Government that's about ACORN, and it doesn't mention Andrew Breitbart at all. It mentions the Ku Klux Klan.

...ACORN does indeed operate like the Mafia, but it more closely resembles another organization that began as an affiliate of the Democratic Party, the Ku Klux Klan. Aside from intimidating some bank executives, ACORN does not engage in violence, but like the KKK it has vote fraud as a top priority....

SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:14:10am

re: #39 SanFranciscoZionist

It's not that I don't understand the world they wish to project an impression of having come from--I just don't care.

Actually, that's not true. In McCain's case, I am morally opposed to the world he wishes to project an impression of having come from.

William of Orange Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:14:33am

re: #1 Cato the Elder

Ten minutes of Breitbart?

I'd rather eat civet poop.

I endured it the full ten minutes, and I fear for my sanity. For what we know of him, and how he can be on video, this time he seems rather restrained. Still, the only one who seems to be talking is of course Breitbart.

See. There I go. Thinking of Breitbart coherent. Yep, sanity is gone...

William of Orange Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:15:43am

re: #6 jaunte

It has a lot in common with the Monty Python Argument sketch.

No it didn't.... ;)

Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:15:56am

re: #44 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

lutefisk

Haggis!

sattv4u2 Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:16:05am

BBIAB

Post Office run

Kragar Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:16:52am

re: #50 Mad Al-Jaffee

Haggis!

Lutefisk, stuffed with haggis, servered with a fresh bowl of chum.

Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:18:17am

re: #52 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Lutefisk, stuffed with haggis, servered with a fresh bowl of chum.

And Crunchy Frog chocolates for dessert.

SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:18:24am

re: #46 wrenchwench

Oh wait, I was wrong. Here's an article frokm Big Government that's about ACORN, and it doesn't mention Andrew Breitbart at all. It mentions the Ku Klux Klan.

Well, if they believe that ACORN is damaging America, I guess they should call the people who have most effectively damaged the Klan--the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Of course, I believe the SPLC has sued the Klan on behalf of people who've been beaten, attacked, had their livelihoods taken away, their churches burned...

So, it should be no problem to find some people whose lives have been similarly damaged by ACORN. Besides Mr. Breitbart. And sue their asses.

Aceofwhat? Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:18:43am

re: #43 William of Orange

New York times is still asleep at the wheel... Still continuing the pimp and prostitude story, which was a fabrication to begin with.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

It's really quite the paper they have going over there...

Walter L. Newton Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:19:46am

re: #45 Cato the Elder

It reminds one of "Balloon Boy's" father, doesn't it?

That's the problem with the current state of our news now a days. It's entertainment first, maybe trustful information second.

It is evident that they had plain, simple verifiable information coming from the mouth of Breitbart in that video footage. Breitbart does a clear job of hanging himself.

Having the video of Breitbart edited to highlight his histrionics only brings the reporting organization down to the same level as a tabloid.

I don't want to have to wade through the stupid to get to the information.

Presentation = f-
Information = b+

Kragar Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:21:45am

re: #53 Mad Al-Jaffee

And Crunchy Frog chocolates for dessert.

Its tuesday, so you get the ram's bladder cup garnished with lark's vomit.

Randall Gross Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:26:12am

In the early segments you can see Ayaan Hirsi Ali or someone who looks strikingly like her walk out of the main room behind him.

William of Orange Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:28:48am

Damn, I feel some simpathy for this guy. Fate has it he shares the same name....

That's a bitch...

Walter L. Newton Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:29:26am

re: #58 Thanos

In the early segments you can see Ayaan Hirsi Ali or someone who looks strikingly like her walk out of the main room behind him.

At CPAC? Guess I'm going to throw out her books now.

Killgore Trout Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:31:57am

re: #58 Thanos

In the early segments you can see Ayaan Hirsi Ali or someone who looks strikingly like her walk out of the main room behind him.

Nice catch but I doubt that's her. She's been under wraps for quite a while. Her and the other person that came through the door were both dressed in black. I think that's probably hotel staff uniforms.

Walter L. Newton Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:33:41am

re: #61 Killgore Trout

Nice catch but I doubt that's her. She's been under wraps for quite a while. Her and the other person that came through the door were both dressed in black. I think that's probably hotel staff uniforms.

Wasn't she at CPAC last year? I think so.

Spare O'Lake Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:35:01am

Fascists who live in glass houses shouldn't throw tantrums.

Killgore Trout Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:35:04am

BTW, Breitbart is lying about not knowing the context and not having seen the unedited video. It was a big scoop for him and he would have wanted to scour the videos for other incriminating statements that O'Keefe might have missed. He knew what was on them and he probably helped in the deceptive editing.

wee fury Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:36:01am

He really needs to enroll in debate classes.

Kragar Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:37:57am

re: #65 wee fury

He really needs to enroll in debate classes.

He signed up for an arguement, but ended up in abuse.

Killgore Trout Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:40:05am

re: #65 wee fury

He really needs to enroll in debate classes.

He's not interested in wining a debate. He's like Mikey Moore and just producing propaganda for an uncritical audience.

Aceofwhat? Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:41:27am

re: #62 Walter L. Newton

Wasn't she at CPAC last year? I think so.

Really? didn't she spend significant time trying to get Vlaams B. banned?

i don't have concerns about her credentials there, unless i'm missing something elephantine.

Walter L. Newton Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:43:26am

re: #68 Aceofwhat?

Really? didn't she spend significant time trying to get Vlaams B. banned?

i don't have concerns about her credentials there, unless i'm missing something elephantine.

I'm not suggesting anything, I was simply asking a question.

Aceofwhat? Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:46:00am

re: #69 Walter L. Newton

I'm not suggesting anything, I was simply asking a question.

I apologize. I reread and I certainly did answer something that you never said. My fault.

zephirus Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:49:52am

Breitbart is a fucking liar and his lies are destroying our democracy. Period.

Dancing along the light of day Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:50:03am

Wow. I don't want anyone like Andrew Breitbart representing my political beliefs. I hope he isn't benefiting from the attention this is getting. He strikes me as just another attention whore.

bagua Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:50:05am

How to pimp a hoe

Youtube Video

Aceofwhat? Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:51:34am

re: #71 zephirus

Breitbart is a fucking liar and his lies are destroying our democracy. Period.

tsk. our democracy is not so fragile. i find your lack of faith...disturbing.

(sorry...been too long since i quoted the dark father)

zephirus Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:51:55am

re: #12 Aceofwhat?

AKA "brown nosing".

Randall Gross Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:52:25am

re: #65 wee fury

He really needs to enroll in debate classes.

Nah, he really needs to stop lying and defending lies.

darthstar Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:52:36am

re: #71 zephirus

I like the nick name you've chosen. Makes me think of the prologue to the Canterbury tales. "Whan Zephirus eek with his swete breeth"

Ericus58 Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:53:07am

re: #74 Aceofwhat?

"i find your lack of faith...disturbing"

I so hear that voice when reading those words....

Aceofwhat? Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:54:13am

re: #78 Ericus58

"i find your lack of faith...disturbing"

I so hear that voice when reading those words...

I know, right? All-time best voice-over in the history of the universe.

Aceofwhat? Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:54:44am

re: #77 darthstar

I like the nick name you've chosen. Makes me think of the prologue to the Canterbury tales. "Whan Zephirus eek with his swete breeth"

I read them 20 years ago and i'd never have caught that. Sharp work, there.

darthstar Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:54:53am

Breitbart needs to stop listening to his inner-Beck. The crazed asshole schtick doesn't make him look any more reasonable to people.

darthstar Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:55:48am

re: #80 Aceofwhat?

I read them 20 years ago and i'd never have caught that. Sharp work, there.

My high school English teacher had us memorize the first ten lines of the General Prologue...that was in 1982.

zephirus Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:55:49am

re: #20 wrenchwench

He appears here as an unstable maniac.

Aceofwhat? Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:56:05am

re: #81 darthstar

Breitbart needs to stop listening to his inner-Beck. The crazed asshole schtick doesn't make him look any more reasonable to people.

We don't want him to stop. We want him to fully expose his crazed asshole side, so that his marginalization is complete.

MandyManners Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:56:34am

re: #12 Aceofwhat?

I've never really understood what 'coffee-nosed' meant as an insult but i like it. Perhaps it pertains to our recent discussion on civets...?

Toffee-nosed.

Aceofwhat? Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:56:37am

re: #82 darthstar

My high school English teacher had us memorize the first ten lines of the General Prologue...that was in 1982.

impressive

Aceofwhat? Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:56:54am

re: #85 MandyManners

Toffee-nosed.

Aww. You're cute when you're late.

blueraven Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:57:09am

re: #67 Killgore Trout

He's not interested in wining a debate. He's like Mikey Moore and just producing propaganda for an uncritical audience.

While I agree that Moore is also a pusher of propaganda, there methods are quite different. Moore presents his films as entertainment not as straight news. He is a filmmaker with a definite point of view. I don't think he has ever claimed to be a so called "journalist".

MandyManners Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:57:58am

Has anyone posted it yet?

Youtube Video

MandyManners Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:58:18am

re: #87 Aceofwhat?

Aww. You're cute when you're late.

*snarl*

zephirus Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:59:14am

re: #77 darthstar

I like the nick name you've chosen. Makes me think of the prologue to the Canterbury tales. "Whan Zephirus eek with his swete breeth"

Ah - thanks for that reference! Zephirus (ME) is a personification of the west wind. I am an atmospheric physicist.

Aceofwhat? Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:59:36am

re: #88 blueraven

While I agree that Moore is also a pusher of propaganda, there methods are quite different. Moore presents his films as entertainment not as straight news. He is a filmmaker with a definite point of view. I don't think he has ever claimed to be a so called "journalist".

Your paragraph is somewhat contradictory. Propagandists, by definition, are not straight entertainers. They are pushing a POV...else we would not call them propagandists.

make sense?

Syrius Tue, Mar 2, 2010 11:59:50am

Does this mean the fringe will cease the Obama-Acorn Child Prostitute Meme?

Aceofwhat? Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:00:19pm

re: #91 zephirus

Ah - thanks for that reference! Zephirus (ME) is a personification of the west wind. I am an atmospheric physicist.

cool

(pun intended)

Taqyia2Me Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:00:21pm

re: #88 blueraven

While I agree that Moore is also a pusher of propaganda, there methods are quite different. Moore presents his films as entertainment not as straight news. He is a filmmaker with a definite point of view. I don't think he has ever claimed to be a so called "journalist".

Perhaps, although his films end up in the documentary category and that nudges the naive into believing they are fact based.

zephirus Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:01:31pm

re: #81 darthstar

Give him more rope and let him hang himself.

blueraven Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:02:24pm

re: #92 Aceofwhat?

Your paragraph is somewhat contradictory. Propagandists, by definition, are not straight entertainers. They are pushing a POV...else we would not call them propagandists.

make sense?

All films have a point of view. Not all films are presented as straight news.

make sense?

darthstar Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:02:40pm

re: #91 zephirus

Ah - thanks for that reference! Zephirus (ME) is a personification of the west wind. I am an atmospheric physicist.

Here's the first ten lines The whole thing is a great read...I prefer the middle-English version:

WHAN that Aprille with his shoures soote 1
The droghte of Marche hath perced to the roote,
And bathed every veyne in swich licour,
Of which vertu engendred is the flour;
Whan Zephirus eek with his swete breeth 5
Inspired hath in every holt and heeth
The tendre croppes, and the yonge sonne
Hath in the Ram his halfe cours y-ronne,
And smale fowles maken melodye,
That slepen al the night with open ye,

Randall Gross Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:02:41pm

That high wheedly voice part was hilarious, it's like he was dancing around because he had too much angst in his panties or like he had to go wee wee and couldn't hold it anymore.

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Cato the Elder Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:03:42pm

re: #91 zephirus

Ah - thanks for that reference! Zephirus (ME) is a personification of the west wind. I am an atmospheric physicist.

Zephiro torna!

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

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zephirus Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:06:13pm

re: #74 Aceofwhat?

tsk. our democracy is not so fragile. i find your lack of faith...disturbing.

(sorry...been too long since i quoted the dark father)

Heh. Well, Palin COULD have been president. I rest my case.

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Bagua Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:06:34pm

re: #81 darthstar

Breitbart needs to stop listening to his inner-Beck. The crazed asshole schtick doesn't make him look any more reasonable to people.

Agreed. Breitbart comes across as an idiot.

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Aceofwhat? Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:06:42pm

re: #97 blueraven

All films have a point of view. Not all films are presented as straight news.

make sense?

yes. i don't think all films have a point of view (the Fifth Element...Happy Gilmore...Serenity...etc), but i see that you are trying to make a distinction between garden-variety propaganda and camouflaged news.

thanks for indulging me-

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:06:54pm

re: #98 darthstar

That should be set to a rap...

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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:07:39pm

re: #93 Syrius

Does this mean the fringe will cease the Obama-Acorn Child Prostitute Meme?

No.

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:08:12pm

re: #93 Syrius

Does this mean the fringe will cease the Obama-Acorn Child Prostitute Meme?

Wait, let me go grab "Magic 8 Ball".

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Aceofwhat? Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:08:29pm

re: #101 zephirus

Heh. Well, Palin COULD have been president. I rest my case.

damn funny there. good work.

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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:09:11pm

re: #104 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That should be set to a rap...

I once worked with an English teacher who had one student, as a project, rap a section of 'Beowulf'.

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darthstar Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:09:40pm

re: #104 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That should be set to a rap...

Rappin' Chaucer? (bold = shout)

WHAN that Aprille with his shoures soote 1
The droghte of Marche hath perced to the roote,
And bathed every veyne in swich licour,

I definitely think the Wife of Bath would be up for dancing on stage wearing nothing but a thong.

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Walter L. Newton Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:10:18pm

re: #103 Aceofwhat?

yes. i don't think all films have a point of view (the Fifth Element...Happy Gilmore...Serenity...etc), but i see that you are trying to make a distinction between garden-variety propaganda and camouflaged news.

thanks for indulging me-

What in the world are you talking about? Do you really mean what you just wrote? How about looking over you comment and maybe reflecting on what you said?

"The Fifth Element" doesn't have a point of view, a moral, a deep message for all of us. It is probably close to my most favorite movie. And it has a very introspective message for all of us.

We are all just meat popsicles.

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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:10:47pm

re: #109 darthstar

Rappin' Chaucer? (bold = shout)

WHAN that Aprille with his shoures soote 1
The droghte of Marche hath perced to the roote,
And bathed every veyne in swich licour,

I definitely think the Wife of Bath would be up for dancing on stage wearing nothing but a thong.

A thong and those scarlet stockings, sure.

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zephirus Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:11:01pm

re: #98 darthstar

I will keep that, thanks! But I'm REALLY interested in knowing which Canterbury tale has the story about the two guys on the ladder where the guy on the bottom complains about the other farting in his face?

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Aceofwhat? Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:11:49pm

re: #110 Walter L. Newton

i genuflect to that raw display of wisdom.

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Aceofwhat? Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:13:45pm

re: #110 Walter L. Newton

and if you'll indulge my inner caveman for a second, it's proof that Milla is the easy choice for #1 most appealing actress on the planet.

(she can sing, too. she's not bad)

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zephirus Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:15:55pm

re: #99 Thanos

That high wheedly voice part was hilarious, it's like he was dancing around because he had too much angst in his panties or like he had to go wee wee and couldn't hold it anymore.

That was a physiological innate response, kind of like "flight or flight", where the "Holy shit, they're on to me" synapse fires.

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darthstar Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:16:30pm

re: #112 zephirus

I will keep that, thanks! But I'm REALLY interested in knowing which Canterbury tale has the story about the two guys on the ladder where the guy on the bottom complains about the other farting in his face?

Miller's Prologue and Tale...but that's not exactly a west wind Absolon is experiencing...

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webevintage Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:16:50pm

The Big B is nuts.

Just saw this over on Ballon Juice.
WOLVERINES!!!

Youtube Video

hahahahahahahaha

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:19:12pm

Scientists are saying that days are going to be a nanosecond or two shorter because of the Earthquake.

Is the Earth's cheese sliding off its cracker?

I guess every 7 to 30 years we'll have a leap second.

MULTI-PASS!

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darthstar Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:20:37pm

re: #118 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Scientists are saying that days are going to be a nanosecond or two shorter because of the Earthquake.

Is the Earth's cheese sliding off its cracker?

I guess every 7 to 30 years we'll have a leap second.

MULTI-PASS!

Some people will say anything to shorten President Obama's term in office.
/

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avanti Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:20:41pm

Interesting, German fundamentalist family granted asylum to home school.

school.

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Aceofwhat? Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:21:56pm

Breaking - after hearing the arguments (i don't think the transcripts are up yet), the folks at Scotusblog think that the SCOTUS is likely to extend the 2nd Amendment (in part, at least).

Funny excerpt:

The first argument to collapse as the hearing unfolded was the plea by the lawyer for gun rights advocates, Alan Gura of Alexandria, VA, that the Court should “incorporate” the Second Amendment into the 14th Amendment through the “privileges or immunities” clause. In the first comment from the bench after Gura had barely opened, Chief Justice John G. Roberts, Jr., noted that the Court had essentially scuttled that argument with its ruling in the SlaughterHouse Cases in 1873. And within a few minutes, Justice Antonin Scalia — the author of the Heller opinion and the Court’s most fervent gun enthusiast — was sarcastically dismissing the “privileges or immunities” argument.

“Why,” Scalia asked Gura, “are you asking us to overrule 140 years of prior law….unless you are bucking for a place on some law school faculty.” The Justice said the “privileges or immunities” argument was “the darling of the professorate” but wondered why Gura would “undertake that burden.”

Scalia makes me laugh.

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Stanghazi Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:22:23pm

re: #116 darthstar

Miller's Prologue and Tale...but that's not exactly a west wind Absolon is experiencing...

Wasn't it the local lothario who farted on the husband as the husband spied said lothario and wife doing the deed? That's how I remember it.

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Aceofwhat? Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:23:26pm

re: #120 avanti

Interesting, German fundamentalist family granted asylum to home school.

school.

You're not allowed to home school in Germany for any reason - religious or otherwise.

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Bagua Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:25:31pm

re: #118 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Scientists are saying that days are going to be a nanosecond or two shorter because of the Earthquake.

Is the Earth's cheese sliding off its cracker?

I guess every 7 to 30 years we'll have a leap second.

MULTI-PASS!

Great, now we have to redecorate.

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zephirus Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:25:41pm

re: #122 Stanley Sea

Wasn't it the local lothario who farted on the husband as the husband spied said lothario and wife doing the deed? That's how I remember it.

Evidently multiple fart references in Canterbury Tales. As my mother said once, and I'm quoting, "Hey. I don't care. A faht is funny."

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Qabal Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:27:10pm

I have never seen this man except when he is boiling over in apoplectic rage. If it's actually real, he's going to kill himself within five years with a heart attack or similar stress-induced malady.

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avanti Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:27:27pm

re: #123 Aceofwhat?

You're not allowed to home school in Germany for any reason - religious or otherwise.

I know, but now the gates are open to encourage immigrates to use that excuse to get entry into the US. The evangelical group is already seeking more asylum seekers.

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Aceofwhat? Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:29:12pm

re: #127 avanti

I know, but now the gates are open to encourage immigrates to use that excuse to get entry into the US. The evangelical group is already seeking more asylum seekers.

Oh. Yeah, i'd rather we were more tolerant of H1-B immigrants. Open the floodgates to people who already have degrees and want to come make us a technological wonder of the world.

But we could go on and on about the lovely maze that is our immigration system...so i won't...

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Fart Knocker Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:29:27pm

re: #127 avanti

I know, but now the gates are open to encourage immigrates to use that excuse to get entry into the US. The evangelical group is already seeking more asylum seekers.

Sounds good to me. I think regardless of your religious persuasion, the idea that your country can prohibit you from home schooling your kids is a dangerous one .

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Vicious Babushka Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:31:56pm

re: #125 zephirus

Evidently multiple fart references in Canterbury Tales. As my mother said once, and I'm quoting, "Hey. I don't care. A faht is funny."

And does Kenny die in every tale?

Oyez mine Iesus! They hast slayne Kennye!
Thou syn-begotyn churls!

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garhighway Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:33:02pm

re: #129 rwdflynavy

Sounds good to me. I think regardless of your religious persuasion, the idea that your country can prohibit you from home schooling your kids is a dangerous one .

Do they prohibit home schooling or do they require a kid to go to a real school? Those are two different things, aren't they? The parents could teach their child whatever they want once he or she comes home, and I would doubt that the state forbids that.

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darthstar Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:33:15pm

re: #122 Stanley Sea

Wasn't it the local lothario who farted on the husband as the husband spied said lothario and wife doing the deed? That's how I remember it.

There's lots of farting in the Canterbury tales. The Friar's tale has it too.

At the close of this sermon, the friar asked Thomas for money to build the brothers’ cloister. Thomas, annoyed by the friar's hypocrisy, told the friar that he had a gift for him that he was sitting on, but that he would only receive it if he promised to split it up equally between each of the friars.
The friar readily agreed, and put his hand down behind Thomas’ back, groping round – and Thomas let out a fart louder than a horse could make. The friar became immediately angry, and promised to repay Thomas for his fart, but, before he could, the servants of the house chased the friar out.

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Vicious Babushka Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:33:29pm

re: #126 Qabal

I have never seen this man except when he is boiling over in apoplectic rage. If it's actually real, he's going to kill himself within five years with a heart attack or similar stress-induced malady.

The Muslims are always in a seething rage about something or other. So why don't we see them dropping dead of strokes and heart attacks?

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torrentprime Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:34:08pm

re: #128 Aceofwhat?

Oh. Yeah, i'd rather we were more tolerant of H1-B immigrants. Open the floodgates to people who already have degrees and want to come make us a technological wonder of the world.

But we could go on and on about the lovely maze that is our immigration system...so i won't...

Can I just plug the UAFA act? / No, I'm sorry we haven't time...

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zephirus Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:40:00pm

re: #80 Aceofwhat?

re: #100 Cato the Elder

Zephiro torna!

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Well, THAT was delightful. Thanks. My blood pressure is several points lower now.

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darthstar Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:41:18pm

Given that this thread started about Breitbart, I think the discussion of farting counts as remaining on topic. Just my two cents.

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Girth Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:43:44pm

Breitbart was also on FNC last hour. I didn't listen to more than a few seconds, but I'm sure he was dutifully "informing" Fox viewers that of course there's something there, and I think I heard something about racketeering and the DoJ, because clearly his unedited tapes offer soooo much evidence...

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zephirus Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:44:58pm

re: #136 darthstar

I would say so. And it incorporates in the wind references, as in "bag of wind" or "miasma". So this thread is internally consistent.

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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:54:31pm

re: #120 avanti

Interesting, German fundamentalist family granted asylum to home school.

school.

Seriously, if these folks want to home-school bad enough to come to the U.S. fine. But the fact that this is considered an asylum case, when people I know have fought so hard and sometimes lost to persuade courts that, say, being gay in Ukraine should give you a 'well-founded fear of persecution'...it seems kind of frivolous, to be honest.

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zephirus Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:56:27pm

re: #47 SanFranciscoZionist

Actually, that's not true. In McCain's case, I am morally opposed to the world he wishes to project an impression of having come from.

ZING! I am so taking this.

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zephirus Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:57:41pm

I shall now return to my regularly scheduled programming. Latah.

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Aceofwhat? Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:57:50pm

re: #140 zephirus

ZING! I am so taking this.

SFZ is on point with a consistency that most of the rest of us can barely aspire to, if you haven't noticed already...

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wrenchwench Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:59:44pm

re: #142 Aceofwhat?

SFZ is on point with a consistency that most of the rest of us can barely aspire to, if you haven't noticed already...

I was actually thinking this yesterday, she's the most consistently updingable lizard posting.

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Decatur Deb Tue, Mar 2, 2010 1:02:22pm

re: #143 wrenchwench

I was actually thinking this yesterday, she's the most consistently updingable lizard posting.

If I flounce, it's her fault. Just about everything I say is redundant.

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zephirus Tue, Mar 2, 2010 1:03:55pm

re: #143 wrenchwench

Yes, our Miss SFZ is succinct, very quotable and wickedly clevah. We are humbled before her.

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TedStriker Tue, Mar 2, 2010 1:16:52pm

re: #102 Bagua

Agreed. Breitbart ~~comes across as~~ is an idiot.

FTFY...

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Slap Tue, Mar 2, 2010 1:23:20pm

To drop one more on the brown-nose bandwagon....One of my favorite Zappa quotes has always been:

"NOBODY looks good wearing brown lipstick."

I stole it a LONG time ago. But I do attribute.

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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 2, 2010 1:35:24pm

re: #145 zephirus

Yes, our Miss SFZ is succinct, very quotable and wickedly clevah. We are humbled before her.

And then I had to upding the lot of you...

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Jaerik Tue, Mar 2, 2010 2:37:16pm

So what was the point of dressing him as a pimp after the fact? Except to falsely imply that "pimps and hos" are a completely acceptable and valid caricature of the people you're trying to negatively portray. (By saying they welcomed you with open arms.)

And the media just ate it up. Pretty repugnant. I'm usually hesitant to make accusations of racism these days, (I think they're overdone), but I can't really see any way this wasn't.

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Cato the Elder Tue, Mar 2, 2010 5:03:13pm

re: #135 zephirus

re: #100 Cato the Elder

Well, THAT was delightful. Thanks. My blood pressure is several points lower now.

Monteverdi has that effect.

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