I love that quote!

Simple, accurate and pithy. Very good saying.

Fading fast.

Goodnight all.

The hardest thing of all is to find a black cat in a dark room, especially if there is no cat.

Confucius

Death Don't Have No Mercy

Also attributed to Confucius:

In a country well governed, poverty is something to be ashamed of. In a country badly governed, wealth is something to be ashamed of.

re: #5 freetoken

Also attributed to Confucius:

Love that one as well...

Here is my favorite fable from the Talmud. It is a fable so it is not to be taken as a true story, but the moral of the story is.

The story goes that in Africa there was a kingdom of the righteous. The people lived in peace, harmony and great prosperity because they always tried their best to do what was right by each other and their kings were also totally righteous and wise.

Alexander the Great heard of this kingdom and was curious to see what such a kingdom would be like.

The king feasted Alexander and treated him with great honor and hospitality - as well as three hungry travelers who had lost their way.

After the meal, a case was brought to the king to judge.

There was farmer A and Farmer B.

Farmer A sold a field to farmer B. When B was ploughing the field, he discovered that a great treasure of gold and gems had been buried in the field.

Farmer B tried to give the treasure to Farmer A, because he reasoned that Farmer A would never have sold him the field had he known of the treasure.

Farmer A refused to take the treasure because he reasoned that God clearly wanted Farmer B to have the treasure and that since he did not know of the treasure, he surely lost nothing.

This is, after all, a kingdom of the righteous.

The dispute started to get heated. Both men were terrified that they would do wrong by accepting the treasure and stealing from the other.

The king said to Farmer B, "do you not have a daughter who is in love with Farmer A's son? Yes, yes indeed... Then let the treasure be a dowry for her and the couple be married."

All rejoiced, save Alexander, who sat with his jaw agape.

The king asked him

"Do you find a flaw in my judgement?"

"No" said Alexander, "It is simply that in my nation such a judgement would never happen."

"What would the judgement in your nation be?" asked the king.

"I would execute both men and take the treasure for the government" said Alexander.

The King now sat with his jaw agape.

Finally the king asked Alexander, "Are there many different animals and flowers and birds in your country?"

"Yes!" said Alexander and he described the many different beasts and birds and fish and plants of his country.

Finally the king smiled.

He said.

"G-d is indeed wise and merciful. It is for their sake that He does not destroy your nation."

The New Porsche 918 Boxter Spyder

Looks like a winner.

I just woke up and didn't go over other thread. Rick Perry won in Texas.

re: #8 Cannadian Club Akbar

I just woke up and didn't go over other thread. Rick Perry won in Texas.

FUCK!

FUCK!

FUCK!

re: #9 LudwigVanQuixote

FUCK!

FUCK!

FUCK!

So, what are you trying yo say?

re: #10 Cannadian Club Akbar

to- not yo, PIMF

That Confucius quote can be taken in multiple ways. Like all good apophthegms.

Sometimes I prefer bald statements, like, for instance that of Alexander Pope:

"A little learning is a dangerous thing;
drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring:
there shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
and drinking largely sobers us again."

Better to be ignorant entirely than to be semi-educated.

re: #10 Cannadian Club Akbar

So, what are you trying yo say?

I think he's quoting Cervantes.

re: #13 Cato the Elder

I think he's quoting Cervantes.

Or Richard Pryor.

Nap time. Again.

Ah Pope. Takes me back to the ole college days. Need to revisit.

Here's another Pope quote:

But Satan now is wiser than of yore, and tempts by making rich, not making poor.

An updated repost in honor of Perry's win in Texas:

Brothers and sisters!

Brother Perry has been elected by the grace of God to steward the great Republic of Texas!

Good clean folks who know the TRUTH - AMEN - can I get a hallelujah - have retaken the great Republic of Texas back from all those liberal, commie, Godless folks and those evil scientists with their Godless lies about creation.

Scientists are evil. We all know that they are in a world wide plot to destroy love of Christ! First it is evolution, then it is women's "rights" then it is out and out gayness, atheism and communism!

Every time someone talks about people coming from monkeys - as if that ain't bad enough - they are saying that God didn't lovingly make you so that you could go forth and spread his word, to the Godless in love and Christ Amen. They are even saying there is no God!

There will come a point, brothers and sisters when either we can bring the lost sheep of America back into the light, or when we will have to break away from America and fight to the death in God's love.

How can they understand the love of God when they tolerate the sin of gayness? No God is very clear that in his love, you must kill them and root out abomination. Amen! Them and all those uppity types. You know who I mean!

That is why I show my love by buying Smith and Wesson! But those brothers and sisters who prefer Colt should be respected. We do, after all, have a big tent.

And we must teach our children carefully so that they are not brainwashed by the Godless "educators." That is why they have to be kept at home and only exposed to safe books and ideas. And we all know that you only need one book and there is only one way to read it! No brainwashing my kids you Godless commie scientists!

And then with their Godless womens liberation! Look where that got us. God made women with a womb. She does not have the same sized brain as a man because all of her natural energies must be spent making new soldiers for Christ. That is what she was made for, and going against Gods will can only lead to Satan's work, pornography and more gayness.

I bet that many turn to gayness because their "liberated" wives do not know there place and give their men no outlets. Men need to be men. Because women can't be wives and mothers anymore, there are gay men teaching evolution to your children and spreading pornography. Amen.

Well in the great Republic of Texas, we are going to set that straight. Our president will be born here and not some other place. There will be no medical board determining your health care options and taking your freedom to choose the health care you want from you. Not at all, whatever you can pay for will be for you just as God intended - and if you can't afford that surgery for someone God wanted to call home, well, that is God's will. Amen!

We have shown those liberal elitist Yankees that we in Texas know what values and morals mean!

re: #13 Cato the Elder

re: #14 Cannadian Club Akbar

Or simply saying the only thing that made sense to say upon seeing that news.

re: #12 Cato the Elder

That Confucius quote can be taken in multiple ways. Like all good apophthegms.

Sometimes I prefer bald statements, like, for instance that of Alexander Pope:

"A little learning is a dangerous thing;
drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring:
there shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
and drinking largely sobers us again."

Better to be ignorant entirely than to be semi-educated.

It's better to excel playing the saw in a jug band then it is to play the violin poorly in a classical orchestra.

/

It feels like October.

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

G'dafternoon.

This is why I'm so cynical about do-gooding. And that was just in 1985, who knows what's gonna happen with Haiti.

State of the Climate
Global Analysis
January 2010
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
National Climatic Data Center

* The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for January 2010 was 0.60°C (1.08°F) above the 20th century average of 12.0°C (53.6°F). This is the fourth warmest January on record.

* The global land surface temperature for January 2010 was 0.83°C (1.49°F) above the 20th century average of 2.8°C (37.0°F)—the twelfth warmest January on record. Land areas in the Southern Hemisphere were the warmest on record for January. In the Northern Hemisphere, which has much more land, comparatively, land surface temperatures were 18th warmest on record.

* The worldwide ocean surface temperature for January 2010 was the second warmest—behind 1998—on record for January, 0.52°C (0.94°F) above the 20th century average of 15.8°C (60.5°F). This can be partially attributed to the persistence of El Niño across the equatorial Pacific Ocean. According to NOAA's Climate Prediction Center (CPC), El Niño is expected to continue through the Northern Hemisphere spring 2010.

re: #23 Gus 802

Yup, and the satellite readings of the temperature of the lower atmosphere for January were significantly higher than before, new records.

re: #24 freetoken

Yup, and the satellite readings of the temperature of the lower atmosphere for January were significantly higher than before, new records.

People will still confuse weather with climate.

BTW, GOES-P is going up tomorrow.

GOES-P Launch Set for March 4

Final prelaunch preparations continue at Launch Complex 37 on Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida, where a Delta IV rocket is set to launch the GOES-P satellite March 4. The launch window extends from 6:17 p.m. to 7:17 p.m. EST.

Geostationary Operational Environmental Satellite-P, or GOES-P, is the latest in a series of meteorological satellites designed to watch for storm development and weather conditions on Earth. From its location in Earth orbit, GOES-P's state-of-the-art instrumentation will supply data used in weather monitoring, forecasting and warnings. It also will detect ocean and land temperatures, monitor space weather, relay communications and provide search-and-rescue support.

GOES-P, to be launched for NASA and NOAA, is a United Launch Alliance commercial launch for Boeing Launch Services under a Federal Aviation Administration license.

re: #23 Gus 802

Excellent post. And the trend is of course, accelerating.

Good night folks.

Wednesday beckons.

re: #28 Gus 802

Nighty, and have a pleasurable Hump Day!

Ford outsells GM with 43% jump in US sales.

Reaping the benefits of actually MAKING GOOD CARS, perhaps? q:

Interference Seen in Blackwater Inquiry

An official at the United States Embassy in Iraq has told federal prosecutors that he believes that State Department officials sought to block any serious investigation of the 2007 shooting episode in which Blackwater Worldwide security guards were accused of murdering 17 Iraqi civilians, according to court testimony made public on Tuesday.
[...]
The dismissal of the criminal case against the guards for Blackwater in the Nisour Square shooting prompted bitter protests by Iraqis against the United States, and it led the Iraqi government to threaten to bring a lawsuit of its own in the case.

The Justice Department has now appealed the dismissal. Blackwater has settled one series of civil lawsuits brought by victims of the Nisour Square shooting, but another lawsuit brought by another group of victims is still pending.

Fifteen States Have Polluter-Driven Resolutions To Deny Climate Threat

Yesterday, the South Dakota legislature passed a resolution telling public schools to teach “balance” about the “prejudiced” science of climate change by a vote of 37-33. Earlier language that ascribed “astrological” influences to global warming was stripped from the final version.

This act of conspiracy-driven ideology is hardly alone — a Wonk Room investigation has found at least fifteen state legislatures attempting to prevent limits on greenhouse gas pollution. The states of Alabama and Utah have already adopted resolutions calling for the overturn of the Environmental Protection Agency’s global warming endangerment finding, with legislators in thirteen more states in tow. Several resolutions argue that the overwhelming scientific consensus on the threat of manmade global warming is actually a conspiracy
[...]
The most legally bizarre resolution is Arizona state senator Sylvia Allen’s (R-AZ) “tenther” argument that the U.S. Congress does not have the Constitutional authority to regulate greenhouse gas pollution. Allen also believes the Earth is 6000 years old. The other Arizona resolution, along with the Kentucky, Virginia, and Washington resolutions, would attempt to block state enforcement of global warming rules.

These efforts to overturn the Clean Air Act and replace science with conspiracy theories are being supported by the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), a national organization that brings conservative state lawmakers together with industry lobbyists.

re: #32 iceweasel

TEACH THE CONTROVERSY!

re: #33 freetoken

TEACH THE CONTROVERSY!

/pumps "fight the power" fist

//at sky, that is. What are you, some kind of pervert?

Brb night college.

Have some Tears for Fears in the meantime.

re: #30 laZardo

Ford outsells GM with 43% jump in US sales.

Reaping the benefits of actually MAKING GOOD CARS, perhaps? q:

If Mulalley can steer Ford through the next couple of years while overcoming the debt that was taken on to avoid government entanglement, he'll officially be crowned a Titan of Industry, and will richly deserve it. He has done an excellent job so far of guiding the company through very difficult times.

I bought Ford down at $2.00. I'm still not ready to sell. This kind of management is likely good for the long term, and further gains are likely.

re: #37 SixDegrees

If Mulalley can steer Ford through the next couple of years while overcoming the debt that was taken on to avoid government entanglement, he'll officially be crowned a Titan of Industry, and will richly deserve it. He has done an excellent job so far of guiding the company through very difficult times.

I bought Ford down at $2.00. I'm still not ready to sell. This kind of management is likely good for the long term, and further gains are likely.

Ford is world class, some of Ford's best products are not even sold in the US. Google the Focus RS! I love GM cars (well, the ones with 400+hp and RWD, or whose names being with C and end with vette) but GM does not have the spread that Ford does around the world. Ford is properly diversified, GM wasn't, and Chrysler was basically a dying animal.

Here's what I want to know: if Rick Perry (his name unfortunately close to my favorite painter) and an OMG liberal Democrat runs against him (it's Texas, not likely), who do the conservatives of LGF root for? :D

also, Orrin Hatch, laying a gigantic ostrich egg of lies LOL: [Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

re: #38 WindUpBird

Ford is world class, some of Ford's best products are not even sold in the US. Google the Focus RS! I love GM cars (well, the ones with 400+hp and RWD, or whose names being with C and end with vette) but GM does not have the spread that Ford does around the world. Ford is properly diversified, GM wasn't, and Chrysler was basically a dying animal.

Yeah. I was ready to buy my second Focus, mostly because I heard they were finally bringing their European model to the states, but when that didn't happen I snagged a Mazda instead. I hear they're finally going to make the transition next year, which will give them a single product sold worldwide.

Chrysler, as you say, is doomed. Too many owners in rapid succession have gutted the engineering staff, and left those still employed cowering under their desks. And they have, let's see...oh, yeah, NO MODELS THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY WANT TO BUY. I look for them to be swallowed when the economy improves and one of the other car companies is willing to take on their debt in exchange for their nameplate, if that's worth anything. Their market share certainly isn't.

I loath GM with every fiber of my being. When I build my own house, I plan to arrange the toilets so I pee in GM's direction no matter which one I use. I had a very, very bad experience with one of their J-cars a quarter century ago, and that wound is still festering.

Anyone here oppose using reconciliation on health insurance reform, yet supported using it for the Bush tax cuts in '03?

Fear of FEMA

One long-time Patriot conspiracy theorist, retired Phoenix police officer Jack McLamb, has gone so far as to claim that the government has placed unobtrusive colored dots on people’s mailboxes so that when martial law is declared, foreign troops serving the “New World Order” will know what’s to be done with the people at each address. A blue dot your mailbox: You’re taken to a FEMA camp. Pink: You’ll be used for slave labor. Red: You are shot in the head immediately.

Red= Commie, I guess....

re: #40 SixDegrees

Yeah. I was ready to buy my second Focus, mostly because I heard they were finally bringing their European model to the states, but when that didn't happen I snagged a Mazda instead. I hear they're finally going to make the transition next year, which will give them a single product sold worldwide.

I loath GM with every fiber of my being. When I build my own house, I plan to arrange the toilets so I pee in GM's direction no matter which one I use. I had a very, very bad experience with one of their J-cars a quarter century ago, and that wound is still festering.

Well, the guys who made that car are probably retired or dead. But I've had pretty good luck with GM, having owned a Pontiac 6000 with high miles that used to be my family's car that I abused to death while in college, a 1989 Chevy Celebrity wagon that I bought for $400, drove to 270,000 miles with almost zero complaints (besides the bad paint and the hood release breaking) before the tranny finally gave out on a road trip, and my dirtbag 1975 Firebird in high school that had a gas tank dumped full of rotten eggs by pranksters and could still after all that embarrass people at stoplights. It's a big company, and a gazillion different midels, some are great, some suck balls. Same with Ford? Every driven an 80's Mustang II? If you had had that instead of your Cavalier (or whatever), you'd be burning Ford in effigy. Windsagio currently has a J-car, I think hes had ok luck with his.

And then there's the G8 GXP my friend with a need for speed owns. They're quite happy with their purchases that can leave everyone eating their dust at stoplights. 8-)

(Mazdas are good cars though, good build quality and none of the boring of Honda and Toyota. Roadsters and hot hatches and rotary engines. Yes!)

re: #43 iceweasel

Fear of FEMA

Red= Commie, I guess...

Whoever that guy is, give him a job writing scripts for the reboot of the X-Files.

re: #43 iceweasel

Fear of FEMA

Red= Commie Intelekshuals, I guess...

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re: #46 Varek Raith

_{Spelling on purpose...};)

What about those of us without mailboxes? I guess we're all immediately shot as 'elites' or something.

Maybe they get green dots on their doors because OMG SOYLENT GREEN TO FEED TEH FEMA CAMPS

re: #43 iceweasel

Not enough Mana tapped!!!11!!1

re: #43 iceweasel

Jack McLamb - one of the true nutcases in contemporary America, someone who can make even Alex Jones sound sane.

re: #48 Varek Raith

Not enough Mana tapped!!!11!!1

Love it. Saved!

re: #47 iceweasel

What about those of us without mailboxes? I guess we're all immediately shot as 'elites' or something.

Maybe they get green dots on their doors because OMG SOYLENT GREEN TO FEED TEH FEMA CAMPS

Without the internet, how would we ever be able to truly view the breathtaking horizon of crazy? What an advancement of humankind!

re: #49 freetoken

Jack McLamb - one of the true nutcases in contemporary America, someone who can make even Alex Jones sound sane.

hahaha what a name

Maybe they'll just shoot the mailboxes???

re: #42 Varek Raith

Anyone here oppose using reconciliation on health insurance reform, yet supported using it for the Bush tax cuts in '03?

Will health insurance reform expire like the tax cuts?

Good Morning Lizardkind!

re: #49 freetoken

Jack McLamb - one of the true nutcases in contemporary America, someone who can make even Alex Jones sound sane.

I didn't remember his name but after awhile the crazy all runs together. SPLC report does say the guy's been around forever.

Lots of goodies in the other SPLC report Killgore linked (the spring intelligence report just came out). I'm currently trawling a scary militia forum as a result.

I think some of these folks are paranoid schizophrenics. Posts about people following them, etc.

re: #56 iceweasel

I didn't remember his name but after awhile the crazy all runs together. SPLC report does say the guy's been around forever.

Lots of goodies in the other SPLC report Killgore linked (the spring intelligence report just came out). I'm currently trawling a scary militia forum as a result.

I think some of these folks are paranoid schizophrenics. Posts about people following them, etc.

Ice, They know you're following them!!!
//

Hey, fellow lizards- In case you haven't seen this, this is awesome!

re: #56 iceweasel

Here, let this twist your mind into a pretzel:

Jack McLamb admits CNP membership on air.... attended secret meetings w/ James Dobson

So he claims to have gone to a CNP meeting with Dobson... unlikely, but if true (and how could we believe anything uttered out of that mouth could fall under "truth") then Dobson is even crazier than most people realize.

re: #55 rwdflynavy

Good Morning Lizardkind!

Morning?! I don't go to bed for three more hours!

re: #57 rwdflynavy

Ice, They know you're following them!!!
//

Hey, I'm just trying to entertain us during shift change!

Here's an example:

Intelligence and counter intelligence is more critical these days than ever before. I myself am bereaved and in serious mourning for the downfall of a movement most do not know about.

I am going to reveal this here, now, to you so there is an understanding of how secret this was. Very little to nothing is verifiable of this over the Internet. If you know what to search for, you can find a reference or two, but nothing about it directly. They wanted it that way. There is no danger anymore, though, of exposure. They've been found out through NSA measures and the chain picked apart. People I know and care for are missing. If I had not moved to another state last year, I would be missing too, I am sure of it. Let's just say there are some advantages to not switching my driver's license address to a new state and leaving somebody else in the household to open the utilities accounts who cannot be linked to me anywhere.

[...]
Faces I knew and would give me updates on the crumpling movement as authorities take innocent families one by one are now missing. Gone. Even neighbors who had the 'safe words' to say if there was a breach of security and you were to walk away, who had lived in their homes for 15 years and weren't going anywhere for another decade or more, are missing.
[...]
Something took down this underground railroad, at least in the South Eastern United States. Operational Security has been breached somewhere, somehow, and the ones who would know anything are missing. Safe houses abandoned and stripped of everything.

Now why I am sharing this... I need advice. I want to start a counter intelligence process and try and find out how in the hell a face to face network got pulled apart. I'm not sure whom to talk to next, but before I make contact with any other region or person involved, or even see if they are missing too, I would like to know what I am walking into, if possible.

re: #56 iceweasel

I think some of these folks are paranoid schizophrenics. Posts about people following them, etc.

Is there such thing as Contact Schizophrenia? Like a contact high? Like they're not actually crazy, they're just around crazies so much that they just join in? :D

re: #59 freetoken

Holy moly.

re: #61 iceweasel

If you get the chance make sure they understand that only Reynolds Wrap(tm) can withstand the government's mind control rays. Lots of newbies think they can use any tin foil.

re: #60 WindUpBird

Morning?! I don't go to bed for three more hours!

WUB, We need to ensure a good overlap in Lizard coverage, I have to get up to speed on the overnight issues: funny videos, cool music etc. This takes time...

re: #61 iceweasel

Reminds me of this guy: Mall Ninja

re: #66 rwdflynavy

Reminds me of this guy: Mall Ninja

Classic.

re: #65 rwdflynavy

WUB, We need to ensure a good overlap in Lizard coverage, I have to get up to speed on the overnight issues: funny videos, cool music etc. This takes time...

No funny videos, but here's some cool tunes!

re: #67 Varek Raith

Classic.

Best line from one of the other posters: "If Plan A is to take multiple .338 shots to the back, you really need to come up with a Plan B."

re: #62 WindUpBird

Is there such thing as Contact Schizophrenia? Like a contact high? Like they're not actually crazy, they're just around crazies so much that they just join in? :D

I think there is, in a way. This particular site is the one where that guy Charles Dyer used to post as July4Patriot. He's the child-molesting, grenade-launcher ownin', teabagging militia guy arrested earlier this year.

Readiing a thread there you can see how these people feed off each other. The guy I just quoted elaborates later (once he gets a little attention):

Two of the safe houses in Florida were ones I helped setup. There were two bugout points, buried supplies that were available if one knew where to look. A snatch and grab setup in hollowed out stumps. Treated too, so it wouldn't rot. You had to push it over and unlatch the bottom, grab the two packs, and split.

The closest one was used and empty, still on it's side. But the furthest one, the one that had the food and water and pup tents and emergency cash was still intact and untouched.

The safe house was stripped of everything and even repainted inside. There was a for sale sign out front. The guy was a Nam vet. He wasn't an amateur and still in OK shape for his age. He moved faster than me when he wanted too. He had a fixed income and his home was paid off. If he was truly selling his home for something else, we would ALL have been notified by face to face updates, because a safe house requires longevity, as long as possible.

First bugout location was 150 yards from the home in the woods. Second was 3 miles, in the woods of the Florida National Park. So as far as I know, they made it to point one and not to point two.

re: #66 rwdflynavy

Reminds me of this guy: Mall Ninja

Wow, never saw that before!

re: #71 iceweasel

Wow, never saw that before!

Srsly?!?!?!
/:P

re: #68 WindUpBird

Cool! Almost has a middle eastern vibe to it.

Nine people have been arrested by Italian border police on suspicion of trafficking arms to Iran.

Both Italians and Iranians had been arrested, including "some who are believed to belong to the Iranian secret services", police said.

The nine were not identified, but police said they were accused of illegally exporting arms and armament systems.

Arms exports to Iran are strictly controlled under a UN embargo.

SNIP

BBT.
:)

re: #69 rwdflynavy

Best line from one of the other posters: "If Plan A is to take multiple .338 shots to the back, you really need to come up with a Plan B."

this site is GREAT!

BTW, I am, of course, usually carrying a pair of ceramic plates in my briefcase so that I can shield my head.

re: #74 MandyManners

Nine people have been arrested by Italian border police on suspicion of trafficking arms to Iran.

Good Morning Mandy!

The US and Israel completely see eye to eye on the issue of sanctions against Iran, US Ambassador to Israel James Cunningham said Wednesday in an interview to Ynet.

Cunningham said that effective sanctions can be imposed on the Iranian regime, but that it will take some time to garner broad international consensus on the issue. However, according to him, there is enough time to do so.

On the backdrop of statements made by US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton that it will take "months" before new sanctions are brought before the UN Security Council for a vote and a State Department statement that Washington will not support crippling sanctions on Iran, Cunningham said that in essence there has been no change in the US approach to Iran.

SNIP

re: #76 iceweasel

Not the kind of thing you want read while drinking any sort of liquid, it will be all over your monitor and up your nose too.

Iranian authorities raided the home of a prominent filmmaker, Jaffar Panahi, early Tuesday morning and arrested him, his wife and daughter, along with 15 guests, the opposition Web site Jaras reported.

Mr. Panahi, 49, had supported the opposition movement and appeared in international film festivals outside the country wearing a green scarf, in the trademark color of the opposition. His films, which are not considered political, have won awards at the Chicago, Cannes and Berlin film festivals.

SNIP

Mr. Panahi was briefly detained last summer during the funeral of a 19-year-old protester who was believed to have been killed by government forces. His passport was confiscated and he was barred from leaving the country.

His arrest appeared to fit a pattern of the intimidation of prominent artists who support the antigovernment movement. The authorities briefly detained a well-known singer, Shahram Nazeri, in December. Mr. Nazeri had sung in support of the movement. Mehraneh Atashi, a photographer, has been jailed since January.

SNIP

Time to get kids ready for school and then back to the painting. Got a lot of it done yesterday, but I have a big house!

re: #77 rwdflynavy

Top of the morning to you, rwdflynavy!

re: #32 iceweasel

Fifteen States Have Polluter-Driven Resolutions To Deny Climate Threat

South Dakota is rooting for global warming and if you'd ever spent a year there you would too.//

re: #79 rwdflynavy

Not the kind of thing you want read while drinking any sort of liquid, it will be all over your monitor and up your nose too.

I will be forever grateful to you for posting that. That's some World Class trolling. Good luck with your painting!

The scandal involving a top aide to Governor David Paterson is growing worse.

There are dramatic new details about the governor's involvement, even as he tries to distance himself from the situation.

Paterson not only admitted in published reports to having a phone conversation with the woman who accused his close aide of domestic violence, but according to sources, he also directed at least two state employees to contact the woman, and persuade her to change her story.

A Paterson administration official speaking on the condition of anonymity confirmed that the two employees were directed by Paterson to contact the woman, but denied that the state employees sought to persuade the woman to drop her charge or change her story.

The administration official said one of the workers, press officer Marissa Shorenstein, was directed by Paterson directly to contact the woman, Sherruna Booker, but only to seek Booker's public statement. The official who spoke wasn't authorized to speak for Paterson.

Just prior to the latest allegations, all of which point to his direct involvement, Paterson downplayed his role.

"This is a separate issue that really involves the problems of someone that works for us; not me," Paterson said.

SNIP

The head of the New York State Police on Tuesday announced his abrupt retirement, becoming the second public safety official to depart amid an investigation into contact that Gov. David Paterson's administration had with a woman about a domestic-violence case.

Police Superintendent Harry Corbitt gave no reason for his departure. In February, he acknowledged a state police official had contact with a woman who had accused a top aide to Paterson of assaulting her on Halloween. Soon after, the woman dropped the domestic-violence complaint against the aide, David Johnson.

SNIP

Meanwhile, the National Organization for Women urged Paterson, a Democrat, to resign. Marcia Pappas, president of NOW New York State, said it was inappropriate for Paterson to have had any involvement in the case.

SNIP

BOOGA! BOOGA!

Security must be stepped up for all foreigners entering Lebanon as they could be secret agents like those who murdered a top Hamas militant in Dubai, a Hezbollah member of parliament said on Tuesday.

“We must tighten foreign passport control at the airport and elsewhere in the country,” Hezbollah MP Nawaf Moussawi told AFP. “Every Lebanese and Arab must deal with holders of foreign passports as potential spies.” Mahmud al-Mabhuh, a founder of the military wing of the Palestinian Islamist movement Hamas, was found dead in his Dubai hotel room on January 20.

Dubai police have said he was drugged then suffocated in what they say was a hit carried out by Israel’s Mossad secret service.

British, Irish, French, Australian and German passports were used in the murder, the police said. Moussawi said Israeli journalists with EU passports had also entered Lebanon in 2006 during the Shia militant party’s devastating war with Israel.

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Here's a show from BBC Radio's Heart and Soul program that is well worth listening to, about Buddhist temple bells in Japan, including a good deal of information on the enormous Flying Dragon Bell, which weighs over 38 tons and has an extremely compelling tone.

The right-hand man of a Hamas leader assassinated in Dubai confirmed Israeli claims that his boss supplied weapons to Palestinian terrorists, according to an interview transcript released Tuesday.

The aide, Damascus-based Mohammed Nassar, spoke to Hamas' Al Aqsa radio in Gaza.

Nassar's boss, Mahmoud al-Mabhouh, was killed Jan. 19 in a Dubai hotel room. The Mossad has been widely suspected, but has neither confirmed nor denied involvement.

Al-Mabhouh and Nassar fled Gaza in the late 1980s, after capturing and killing two Israeli soldiers. Speaking to the radio late Monday, Nassar described al-Mabhouh's action after one of the killings.

"Aboul Abed (Mabhouh) stood on the last body and raised his hands to the sky and said 'Praise God who honored me with capturing and killing him,'" Nassar said.

Israeli defense officials have alleged that al-Mabhouh played a role in smuggling weapons from Iran to Hamas-ruled Gaza. Nassar did not reveal specifics about al-Mabhouh's dealings, but said his boss "never stopped thinking about how to fight the occupation by supplying quality weapons to the Palestinian fighters."

"He participated with me in searching for weapons," Nassar said, according to the transcript.

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Get Nassar, too.

re: #85 MandyManners

The scandal involving a top aide to Governor David Paterson is growing worse.

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Paterson is in some deep crap. If the accusations are true, he tried to intimidate and quiet a woman beaten by an aide, then he should get jail time. He won't, but he should.

re: #88 SixDegrees

I've been to Todaiji (in Nara Park) several times, outside (East) of which is large bell. I seem to recall a couple of times being there when it has sounded. A very interesting place, and a very rewarding experience to be there.

Police in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) investigating the Hamas assassination in Dubai have released a pile of evidence that points towards an Israeli connection to the murder of Mahmoud al-Mabhouh, but so far no smoking gun.

Dubai Police Chief Lt. Gen. Dahi Khalfan Tamim told the Monitor on Monday that he suspects most of the 27 suspects involved in the alleged hit squad are now in Israel, and two of them have taken refuge in the United States. He has also said that he is "99 percent" certain that the Mossad, Israel's external intelligence organization, was behind Mr. Mabhouh's killing.

In addition to the fact that many of the identities used in what have since been shown to be fraudulent European and Australian passports were stolen from Jewish immigrants to Israel, the prepaid credit cards that some of the assassins used to pay for their hotel rooms and plane tickets were issued by a company with ties to the Jewish state.

Dubai police say the cards were issued by the Iowa-based MetaBank, which in turn subcontracted the details of the card to New York-based Payoneer, a company that issues prepaid cards and provides banking services similar to Paypal.

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re: #90 RogueOne

Paterson is in some deep crap. If the accusations are true, he tried to intimidate and quiet a woman beaten by an aide, then he should get jail time. He won't, but he should.

NOW's not happy with him.

re: #93 MandyManners

NOWs credibility is roughly zero in my book.

Dubai's police chief said it will enforce an entry ban on Israeli dual nationals, the first sanction by the emirate following its allegations Israeli intelligence agents murdered a top Hamas leader there in January.

Though the countries have no diplomatic ties, Israeli dual nationals, mostly business people, have entered the United Arab Emirates relatively unhindered under second passports.

The Emirates will seek to identify Israelis by "physical features and the way they speak.'' said Lt. Gen. Dahi Khalfan Tamim.

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But many Israelis rallied around Mossad, and during the Jewish festival of Purim, which ended Monday, some Israelis mimicked the suspects' disguises.

Purim is a holiday of public merriment, marking the foiling of a plot by an ancient Persian minister to annihilate the Jewish people. It is customary to dress up in costumes at parties, at readings of the biblical book of Esther, and on the streets.

Rami Patimer, owner of a Tel Aviv costume store, said customers were showing up in groups with newspaper clippings and suspects' photos. Popular items: Wigs, fake mustaches and tennis socks, like those worn by the Dubai suspects on video. "Everyone wants to be a hero," he said. "It's Israeli pride."

Israeli officials have expressed satisfaction that Mr. Mabhouh is dead. He had been sought by Israel for planning the kidnapping and killing of two Israeli soldiers in 1987, an allegation Hamas hasn't contested. After news of the killing, Israeli security officials said they believed Mr. Mabhouh was also involved in weapons smuggling between Iran and the Hamas- controlled Gaza Strip.

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re: #91 freetoken

I've been to Todaiji (in Nara Park) several times, outside (East) of which is large bell. I seem to recall a couple of times being there when it has sounded. A very interesting place, and a very rewarding experience to be there.

Heart and Soul is a really great program that focuses on faith and religion, and spends a lot of time exploring obscure facets of each, like this one.

From the program: there were once something like 80,000 temple bells in Japan. All but 200-300 of them were melted down for ammunition during WWII. The show spends a lot of time interviewing a small group of master craftsmen who are, very slowly, replacing these bells, one at a time.

re: #94 RogueOne

NOWs credibility is roughly zero in my book.

Can you imagine the frothing and fuming if Paterson were a Republican?

Good news for Detroit...Cleveland is "The Most Miserable city in the US"

[Link: reason.com...]

Cleveland nabbed the top spot as a result of poor ratings across the board. It was the only city that fell in the bottom half of the rankings in all nine categories. Many residents are heading for greener pastures. There has been a net migration out of the Cleveland metro area of 71,000 people over the past five years. Population for the city itself has been on a steady decline and is now less than half of it what it was 50 years ago.

Cleveland ranked near the bottom when looking at corruption. Northern Ohio has seen 309 public officials convicted of crimes over the past 10 years according to the Justice Department. A current FBI investigation of public officials in Cuyahoga County (where Cleveland is located) has ensnared more than two dozen government employees and businessmen on charges including bribery, fraud and tax evasion.

re: #97 MandyManners

Can you imagine the frothing and fuming if Paterson were a Republican?

NOW is right in this case, (whats that about a broken clock being right 2x a day?) but they're far too concerned with a certain strand of politics than they are in their concern for women of all political stripes.

Thanks. Just fucking thanks, BHO and Clinton. How many more of our allies are you two gonna' betray?!

Argentina was celebrating a diplomatic coup yesterday in its attempt to force Britain to accept talks on the future of the Falkland Islands, after a two-hour meeting in Buenos Aires between Hillary Clinton and President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner.

Responding to a request from Mrs Kirchner for “friendly mediation” between Britain and Argentina, Mrs Clinton, the US Secretary of State, said she agreed that talks were a sensible way forward and offered “to encourage both countries to sit down”.

Her intervention defied Britain’s longstanding position that there should be no negotiations unless the islands’ 3,000 inhabitants asked for them. It was hailed in Buenos Aires as a major diplomatic victory, but condemned in the Falklands.

Britain insisted there was no need for mediation as long as the islanders wanted to remain British. “We don’t think that’s necessary,” a Downing Street spokesman said.

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US officials said privately that British fears of being abandoned by the US over the Falklands were wildly overblown, but any hope on the part of the Administration of staying on the sidelines looked forlorn yesterday.

Héctor Timerman, the Argentine Ambassador to the US, said he had never seen “such substantial support” from Washington for his country’s claim.

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re: #98 RogueOne

Good news for Detroit...Cleveland is "The Most Miserable city in the US"

[Link: reason.com...]

We're No. 1! We're No. 1!

I didn't even know there was a "child abuser list".

Parents cleared of false allegations remain on state's child abuser list

Reporting from Washington - Craig and Wendy Humphries of Valencia have been "living every parent's nightmare," as a judge put it, since Craig's rebellious teenager falsely accused them of abuse nine years ago. They were arrested by Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies and had their other young children taken away from them.

It continues today. Even though the state courts agreed that the girl's original complaint was "not true" and that the couple were "factually innocent," the Humphrieses are still listed as child abusers on the state's Child Abuse Central Index.

[Link: www.latimes.com...]

re: #102 RogueOne

I didn't even know there was a "child abuser list".

Parents cleared of false allegations remain on state's child abuser list

[Link: www.latimes.com...]

I believe every state has such a list.

Releasing the dog and letting him try to sort it out is not going to end well:

Tim Crossan describes battling a burglar. As the two exchanged blows, police arrived and released a dog -- that went after Crossan instead of the suspect.......

EUGENE, Ore. -- A man battered battling a burglar and then bit by a police dog may sue the Eugene Police Department for damages in the November 2009 incident.

The police chief said Tuesday he believes releasing the dog on a target who had not been identified for certain as the suspect represent excessive use of force by police -- and said exposes problems in the department's K9 training and policies.

"I have concluded my review of the board's findings and after careful consideration I have sustained an allegation of excessive use of force," Eugene Police Chief Pete Kerns said in a prepared statement late Tuesday afternoon.
.........

+1 for the police chief for not trying to sweep it under a rug. The police rarely admit fault even when it's obvious.

re: #103 MandyManners

We're all on a list somewhere. I know CCA is keeping one but I don't think I'm on that one.

re: #105 RogueOne

We're all on a list somewhere. I know CCA is keeping one but I don't think I'm on that one.

What's his list about?

Charlie Rangel is on the verge of losing his Ways and Means gavel – by choice or by force, permanently or temporarily – and is taking the night to review his options, according to Democratic insiders.

As he emerged Tuesday night from a meeting in Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s ceremonial office – sometimes known on Capitol Hill as “the woodshed” – the New York Democrat insisted that he is still the chairman of the powerful tax-writing committee.

But he couldn’t guarantee that would be the case by Wednesday.

“I can’t make all those promises at my age,” the 79-year-old Rangel said

Republicans plan to force a House floor vote this week on whether to remove Rangel from the chairmanship following last week’s finding that he violated House gift rules by accepting a corporate-sponsored trip to the Caribbean.

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SanFranNan is gonna' act before the Republicans get ths on the floor.

re: #106 MandyManners

What's his list about?

He mentioned keeping a list and adding the people who stole his Deere the other day. I think he may have anger issues, probably why I seem to like him.

re: #106 MandyManners

A list of people (in his opinion, and muchly mine) who are large sacks of Summer's Eve.

There is no one on this thread this morning. Is there a natural disaster people are out preparing for that I haven't heard about?

We're all going to DIE!

re: #98 RogueOne

Double win! Cleveland won "Worst Weather City" earlier this year in Forbes.

re: #110 RogueOne

Yellowstone Caldera.

Could blow at any second.

Horrible story:

SVENSEN, Ore. – The 4-year-old granddaughter of Jay Browning and step-daughter of Jesse Browning from The History Channel's series “Ax Men” has died after family said she was attacked by their pet Rottweiler.
.....
Jesse Browning called 9-1-1 with the frantic news that his 4-year-old daughter, Ashlynn Anderson, had been attacked by one of the two family Rottweilers. Paramedics tried to save the girl's life and a LifeFlight helicopter landed in a nearby field to transport Ashlynn to Oregon Health and Science University hospital in Portland. The girl was pronounced dead on arrival.

[Link: www.kval.com...]

People should never leave little kids with large dogs unsupervised. Doesn't matter how much you trust the dogs, they're just too big and powerful and they can easily tear a little kid up.

One of the sponsors of a gathering to which Rangel traveled was Citigroup -- a banking giant whose employees and political action committee, when taken together, represent his most generous campaign donor during the past two decades. Conversely, Rangel ranks among the top all-time congressional and presidential beneficiaries of Citigroup's political donations.

re: #107 MandyManners

She has to. Everyone knows he's on CCA's list.

re: #108 RogueOne

He mentioned keeping a list and adding the people who stole his Deere the other day. I think he may have anger issues, probably why I seem to like him.

I'm thinking the burglars might have had access to his house before the theft.

More bad news for Sheriff Joe:

[Link: blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com...]

The Arizona Attorney General has launched a probe of the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office over bank accounts kept separate from normal county accounts and over the money from these accounts getting spent without approval from an outside agency, a television station reports.

The money in question: the Sheriff's Office's RICO fund, which includes confiscated drug money and funds taken from other criminal activities, and its Jail Enhancement Fund, which is supposed to be used to keep the jails in good condition so they hold their value.

Bad news for Joe, good news for the people of Phoenix.

Have to take off to work, bbl.

re: #107 MandyManners

Charlie Rangel (Dbagger,NY)

Anybody else lost count of the number of tax felons currently serving leadership positions in this d-bagger administration?

re: #118 RogueOne

CBS 5 says it got a hold of some transaction records from the two accounts, which show that withdrawals ranging from a few dollars to several thousand dollars were made and paid to individuals, companies, a church, and to Joe Arpaio himself.

While in the process of conducting its own investigation, CBS 5 discovered that the AG's Office was probing the same information.

How did Ness take down Capone?

re: #120 Taqyia2Me

Charlie Rangel (Dbagger,NY)

Anybody else lost count of the number of tax felons currently serving leadership positions in this d-bagger administration?

Rangel is not part of the administration but the only one I know of is Geithner.

re: #121 MandyManners

Tax evasion!
However, RICO is NOT just a Miami Vice character...

re: #120 Taqyia2Me

Charlie Rangel (Dbagger,NY)

Anybody else lost count of the number of tax felons currently serving leadership positions in this d-bagger administration?

Last count I had was about 5. Can't remember all the names.

re: #123 Taqyia2Me

Tax evasion!
However, RICO is NOT just a Miami Vice character...

Paying the money to himself is highly suspect. I hope he has documentation.

As far as the fund itself, I've known more than a few law enforcement agencies that did not need permision from anyone to spend the assets they recovered through forfeitures. But, they kept plenty of documentation.

re: #122 MandyManners

Mea culpa, a more accurate description would have been 'this session of Congress'.
Is San Fran Nan's husband's company paying its employees minimum wage yet?

Weren't we promised the most ethical Congress in history?

re: #126 Taqyia2Me

Mea culpa, a more accurate description would have been 'this session of Congress'.
Is San Fran Nan's husband's company paying its employees minimum wage yet?

No. And he owns a company in American Samoa. She voted to exempt them from the minimum wage increase. I think they get 4 bucks an hour.

Good Morning LGF.
The National Post is worth a read this morning for 2 artcles on Islamofascist Terrorism. One is about a new major fatwah against terrorism, and the other is about a small-time jihadist anti-semitic blog hate site.

Quick blurb on Fox says Miller will talk about California's move to ban cussing. Surely someone in the AG office remembers Cohen v. California.

re: #127 Taqyia2Me

Heh... compared to what? Other Congresses?

re: #126 Taqyia2Me

Mea culpa, a more accurate description would have been 'this session of Congress'.
Is San Fran Nan's husband's company paying its employees minimum wage yet?

What? I have a vague recollection.

re: #127 Taqyia2Me

Weren't we promised the most ethical Congress in history?

They won.

Well then, Varek joins the ranks of the unemployed...
Wheee!
Ah, well, wasn't a complete surprise, I suppose. Damn recession.

re: #134 Varek Raith

Well then, Varek joins the ranks of the unemployed...
Wheee!
Ah, well, wasn't a complete surprise, I suppose. Damn recession.

When you hit 20 months, gimme a call.

re: #135 Cannadian Club Akbar

When you hit 20 months, gimme a call.

Oy, that would indeed suck. Sorry to hear that, CCA.

re: #132 MandyManners

What? I have a vague recollection.

The good CCA(neat!) informs in #128.

My blood roils sufficiently, I shall resume lurking and learning.
Thanks!

re: #134 Varek Raith

(((Varek)))

re: #137 Taqyia2Me

The good CCA(neat!) informs in #128.

My blood roils sufficiently, I shall resume lurking and learning.
Thanks!

She is utterly corrupt.

re: #136 Varek Raith

Oy, that would indeed suck. Sorry to hear that, CCA.

Na. no biggie. I'm about to lose my house. That is teh suck.

re: #128 Cannadian Club Akbar

No. And he owns a company in American Samoa. She voted to exempt them from the minimum wage increase. I think they get 4 bucks an hour.

And, she purports to represent the working class?

I bet the companies don't offer health insurance, instead wanting us tax payers to pick up that tab.

re: #134 Varek Raith

May it be very shortlived, Varek (and CCA?).

re: #140 Cannadian Club Akbar

(((CCA)))

re: #143 MandyManners

It has lit a fire under my ass to go back to skool. So I'm kinda cool with it.

re: #144 Cannadian Club Akbar

It has lit a fire under my ass to go back to skool. So I'm kinda cool with it.

And drinking helps.:)
/

George Soros, one of the world's leading investors, believes the euro "may not survive" and has publicly declared that he is buying into gold - even though he considers it a "bubble".

Soros Fund Management - alongside other hedge funds - has been accused of aggressively short-selling the euro to destabilise it. Both the Greek and Spanish prime ministers have condemned "speculators" for undermining the currency.

Some observers say that traders and hedge funds have bet nearly US$8 billion ($11.5 billion) against the euro as very low interest rates have made funding such massive punts more feasible. Concerns have been expressed about the abuse of the credit default swaps market by shorters - so-called naked trading.

The admission by Soros that he is entering an already bullish gold market seems to confirm the direction his activities are taking.

Official filings at the US Securities and Exchange Commission show that Soros Fund Management, with about US$25 billion in assets under management, increased its investment in SPDR Gold Trust, the world's largest exchange-traded fund for the precious metal, by 152 per cent in the fourth quarter of last year.

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I thought only wingnuts were buying gold now.

re: #146 MandyManners

GOLD!!11!1!1!!eleventy-one~

re: #146 MandyManners

I bought gold at $400/OZ. Sold at $425. Fucking IRS.

re: #147 Varek Raith

GOLD!!11!1!1!!eleventy-one~

Blast from the past.

This week sees the arrival in Britain of George Soros - the international speculator who now aims to reform global capitalism. He will be addressing the House of Commons Treasury Select Committee, and giving a number of press interviews, on the dangers of unregulated free markets.

Mr Soros, who operates one of the world's biggest private investment funds, is famous for having made $1bn by betting on the devaluation of the pound sterling in 1992.

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re: #148 Cannadian Club Akbar

I bought gold at $400/OZ. Sold at $425. Fucking IRS.

Comrade, you're not showing sufficient patriotism.

Great. Dems cried when Republicans used this to put in Judges.
[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

re: #134 Varek Raith

Well then, Varek joins the ranks of the unemployed...
Wheee!
Ah, well, wasn't a complete surprise, I suppose. Damn recession.

That's a shame, sorry to hear. What did you used to do anyway?

re: #151 Cannadian Club Akbar

Great. Dems cried when Republicans used this to put in Judges.
[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

Don't you know that they know better than the American people?

I set my dad who is almost 70 (mom married old) up on facebook last week. This morning he's texting back and forth with a family friend in Jeddah SA and completely amazed at how it all works. He keeps saying "15 thousand miles away and it's going back and forth just like THAT!"

As to strange teachings, there is Jian Yu...

Discuss.

re: #152 RogueOne

That's a shame, sorry to hear. What did you used to do anyway?

Small PC repair shop. Mostly installing hardware, sometimes software. Kind of fun, actually. Though, I was putting off getting my various certifications...Got no excuse, now!
;)

If the Euro tanks, won't that cause the greenback to strengthen and possibly cause gold to fall?
Fuuuck, I hate this high finance shit!

re: #153 MandyManners

Don't you know that they know better than the American people?

And they will join me and Varek in the unemployment line, soon.

Sigh, now I can't use my mouse pad, as my cat is laying on it.
Ah, the joys of working for a cat. :)

re: #156 Varek Raith

Small PC repair shop. Mostly installing hardware, sometimes software. Kind of fun, actually. Though, I was putting off getting my various certifications...Got no excuse, now!
;)

You don't see small pc repair shops around much anymore, at least around here I should add. 10 years ago there were half a dozen or so in my area now there are none.

re: #157 Spare O'Lake

If the Euro tanks, won't that cause the greenback to strengthen and possibly cause gold to fall?
Fuuuck, I hate this high finance shit!

Soros doesn't give a shit. He's in it for personal gain. I wonder how many Progressive groups will benefit.

re: #160 RogueOne

You don't see small pc repair shops around much anymore, at least around here I should add. 10 years ago there were half a dozen or so in my area now there are none.

Yep, I think it was the last one in the city. Now, we have none. I blame newegg.com!
;)

re: #158 Cannadian Club Akbar

And they will join me and Varek in the unemployment line, soon.

Defeated politicians can't get unemployment bennies.

re: #161 MandyManners

Soros doesn't give a shit. He's in it for personal gain. I wonder how many Progressive groups will benefit.

He is a commie fuck that thrives on capitalism. Go figure.

re: #156 Varek Raith

Small PC repair shop. Mostly installing hardware, sometimes software. Kind of fun, actually. Though, I was putting off getting my various certifications...Got no excuse, now!
;)

Lemonade!

re: #164 Cannadian Club Akbar

He is a commie fuck that thrives on capitalism. Go figure.

France’s highest court upheld George Soros’s conviction of almost two decades ago in an insider-trading case that involved his trading in French bank Societe Generale. His lawyer, Paris-based Ron Soffer, said they would appeal the Court of Cassation’s ruling to the European Court of Human Rights because the length of the case has kept Soros from getting a fair trial.

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re: #161 MandyManners

Soros doesn't give a shit. He's in it for personal gain. I wonder how many Progressive groups will benefit.

It would be sweet to see that slimy prick lose his shirt...not likely, though.

re: #165 MandyManners

Lemonade!

Ooh, can I have an eeevil lemonade stand???

I like George Soros. Morning, lizards.

A string of three deadly suicide bombings killed 30 people in the former insurgent stronghold of Baqouba on Wednesday, including a blast from a suicide bomber who rode in an ambulance with the wounded before blowing himself up at a hospital, police said.

The bombings — Iraq's deadliest in weeks — come as Iraq is preparing for March 7 parliamentary elections. The crucial balloting will decide who will oversee the country as U.S. forces go home and help determine whether Iraq can overcome the deep sectarian tensions that have divided the nation since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion.

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Good News!/ An active Tornado season the look forward to:[Link: www.kctv5.com...]

re: #167 Spare O'Lake

It would be sweet to see that slimy prick lose his shirt...not likely, though.

Just a drop in the bucket.

Billionaire George Soros's hedge fund may have lost at least $120 million on its stake in Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc., mostly acquired in the second quarter, as the investment bank suffered its worst financial result.

This should help the economy.
[Link: dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com...]

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Chase that tail.
[Link: www.reuters.com...]

re: #173 Cannadian Club Akbar

This should help the economy.
[Link: dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com...]

To meet the Obama administration’s targets for cutting greenhouse gas emissions, some researchers say, Americans may have to experience a sobering reality: gas at $7 a gallon.

To reduce carbon dioxide emissions in the transportation sector 14 percent from 2005 levels by 2020, the cost of driving must simply increase, according to a forthcoming report by researchers at Harvard’s Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs.

The 14 percent target was set in the Environmental Protection Agency’s budget for fiscal 2010.

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Didn' BHO talk about how Americans shouldn't be able to eat what they want, drive as they want, during the election?

re: #173 Cannadian Club Akbar

This should help the economy.
[Link: dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com...]

Not surprisingly, government is embracing - and promoting - studies that call for raising taxes, at a time when tax revenues are falling. This is happening at all levels, including the Feds.

And like other "sin taxes" aimed at inducing behavioral change, government will immediately slurp up the revenue generated, then howl like a rabid dog as those revenues fall, despite suppression of the targeted behavior being the desired result. Hence, demand for even more taxes arises, feeding an uncontrollable and ever-increasing spiral of taxation.

re: #176 MandyManners

He knows best. Meanwhile I had a bagel/cream cheese/turkey/bacon and egg samich this morning.

re: #175 Cannadian Club Akbar

Chase that tail.
[Link: www.reuters.com...]

Good luck with that!

re: #178 Cannadian Club Akbar

He knows best. Meanwhile I had a bagel/cream cheese/turkey/bacon and egg samich this morning.

Now, I'm hungry. BBL.
Nom nom nom Time!

re: #177 SixDegrees

Not surprisingly, government is embracing - and promoting - studies that call for raising taxes, at a time when tax revenues are falling. This is happening at all levels, including the Feds.

And like other "sin taxes" aimed at inducing behavioral change, government will immediately slurp up the revenue generated, then howl like a rabid dog as those revenues fall, despite suppression of the targeted behavior being the desired result. Hence, demand for even more taxes arises, feeding an uncontrollable and ever-increasing spiral of taxation.

And, the movement to tax snacks/fast food is gaining speed.

re: #178 Cannadian Club Akbar

He knows best. Meanwhile I had a bagel/cream cheese/turkey/bacon and egg samich this morning.

They won.

This morning might be an Egg McMuffin morning.

re: #177 SixDegrees

Not surprisingly, government is embracing - and promoting - studies that call for raising taxes, at a time when tax revenues are falling. This is happening at all levels, including the Feds.

And like other "sin taxes" aimed at inducing behavioral change, government will immediately slurp up the revenue generated, then howl like a rabid dog as those revenues fall, despite suppression of the targeted behavior being the desired result. Hence, demand for even more taxes arises, feeding an uncontrollable and ever-increasing spiral of taxation.

You would think they would eventually notice the connection but they never do. Increase taxes, revenue doesn't come close to projections, raise taxes again, revenue again drops...one big vicious cycle.

re: #183 prairiefire

This morning might be an Egg McMuffin morning.

See my #178.:)

re: #181 MandyManners

And, the movement to tax snacks/fast food is gaining speed.

It's for the children, why do you hate america's children?

My favorite photograph.

re: #185 Cannadian Club Akbar

I did. Eggs, cheese, bread......

re: #169 prairiefire

I like George Soros. Morning, lizards.

He is a vile Israel-bashing Jew and a blood-sucking commercial vulture. Other than that, he seems like a nice guy.

re: #186 RogueOne

It's for the children, why do you hate america's children?

GAH! HOW COULD I BE SO BLIND!

IT'S FOR THE CHIIILLLDRENNN!!!

re: #188 prairiefire

I did. Eggs, cheese, bread bagel...

re: #171 prairiefire

I better make a dent in the basement mess so we have somewhere to sit when the sirens go off.

Speaking of driving and children, gotta' git.

St. Pete has gone 28 days not hitting the 60 degree mark. Tampa has gone 28 days. I thought I lived in Florida.

re: #195 Cannadian Club Akbar

St. Pete has gone 28 days not hitting the 60 degree mark. Tampa has gone 28 days. I thought I lived in Florida.

Don't worry about these minor short-term cold snaps... in a hundred years the temperature will rise and the whole state will be underwater.

Not a lot of lead time for this March 12 tour and seminar at Denver Federal Center, but here is info on chance to learn about ICE COREs:
[Link: cfwe.org...]
CFWE = Colorado Foundation for Water Education.

re: #196 Spare O'Lake

Don't worry about these minor short-term cold snaps... in a hundred years the temperature will rise and the whole state will be underwater.

Oh, please. I'm 3 feet above sea level as we speak.
/need I?

re: #198 Cannadian Club Akbar

Oh, please. I'm 3 feet above sea level as we speak.
/need I?

And you aren't living in a row boat by now?

re: #187 MandyManners

Nice digs.

re: #199 NJDhockeyfan

And you aren't living in a row boat by now?

If I were, could I call it a houseboat?

re: #134 Varek Raith

Well then, Varek joins the ranks of the unemployed...
Wheee!
Ah, well, wasn't a complete surprise, I suppose. Damn recession.

Good luck, take care.
My wife has been out for a year from the beginning of march of last year.
I'm thankful my work is secure (as secure can be I suppose), we only have a mortgage and my Son who attends USF is being supported by Army ROTC.

re: #193 MandyManners

Uh, that link is both to 1) an 'article' from the 90's, and 2) on a website that appears to be run by a 9/11 troofer. Sample quote from his debunking of the 'theory' that no planes were involved on 9-11 (!!), which he primarily objects to because it detracts from TEH REAL issues, or something:

I would really like to be researching:

* government suppression of free energy and antigravity technology.
* elite sponsored new age cults
* the history of elite Malthusian agendas and the NWO "B-team"of "earth-friendly" movements
* the 'peak oil' scam, and many other subjects.

I can permanently wash my hands of the no-plane issue, and focus instead on confronting the fascist perps of 9/11 and the NWO directly, instead of the intellectually debauched fools who are inadvertently helping them.

Just FYI.

re: #193 MandyManners

SNIP

Soros has targeted the Euro now, has broken other currencies. He is supposed to have been a 1956 Hungarian "refugee," but his actions since and his family's during the Nazi occupation have always made me wonder about the refugee part -- if nothing else, he's a brilliant, solid gold opportunist. Predictions of demise of the dollar seem to have been premature.

We are having a whale hunting meeting on, I think, Treasure Island. Nice place. Not cheap. We have no whales in Florida.

re: #162 Varek Raith

Yep, I think it was the last one in the city. Now, we have none. I blame newegg.com!
;)

me likes the NewEgg.... and they like my money ;)

re: #205 Cannadian Club Akbar

We are having a whale hunting meeting on, I think, Treasure Island. Nice place. Not cheap. We have no whales in Florida.

I take that back. We did have a whale kill someone recently. My bad.

re: #193 MandyManners

By the way, I did a little google for "EIR's bureau in Wiesbaden Germany".
The first return was Stormfront.
The second 2 are to 'larouche pub'.

Is it really too much to ask that you confine your criticisms of Soros to legitimate issues, and stop linking holocaust denier's sites and sources loved by people like those above?

Back from night college, and would like recommendations (particularly in the drinks and/or medication category) as to how to cure my case of the sad.

re: #208 iceweasel

Question.

Is the information accurate?

Hell, the National Inquirer had Edwards nailed, the only defense I heard was, "Well, hell it's the inquirer."

Agreed those are bad places, but, is the information accurate?

re: #205 Cannadian Club Akbar

Treasure Island has beautiful white sand.

re: #209 laZardo

Back from night college, and would like recommendations (particularly in the drinks and/or medication category) as to how to cure my case of the sad.

See my avatar. 6 ounces of CC. 1 ounce or Pepsi. A cure all. And lots of ice.

re: #211 prairiefire

Treasure Island has beautiful white sand.

The entire west coast does. From Clearwater to Naples.

Soros is the debbil from the places that I have listened to over the years, but I tend to listen to people that would make George's fan's heads explode anyway.

I saw a orgasmic love fest for Soros the other day here. And just walked away.

Why is he so polarizing? (I am only asking for your opinion.)

re: #214 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Soros is the debbil from the places that I have listened to over the years, but I tend to listen to people that would make George's fan's heads explode anyway.

I saw a orgasmic love fest for Soros the other day here. And just walked away.

Why is he so polarizing? (I am only asking for your opinion.)

He is on my douchebag list. My list is growing fast, too.

re: #210 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Question.

Is the information accurate?

Hell, the National Inquirer had Edwards nailed, the only defense I heard was, "Well, hell it's the inquirer."

Agreed those are bad places, but, is the information accurate?

The EIR is a LaRouche pub, FBV.

re: #38 WindUpBird

Ford is world class, some of Ford's best products are not even sold in the US. Google the Focus RS! I love GM cars (well, the ones with 400+hp and RWD, or whose names being with C and end with vette) but GM does not have the spread that Ford does around the world. Ford is properly diversified, GM wasn't, and Chrysler was basically a dying animal.

GM killed Pontiac just as they were about to really let loose the Aussie-nice G8 and I've never forgiven them. I honestly think they should've death-paneled Buick instead and let Cadillac be the Luxury brand.

re: #215 Cannadian Club Akbar

I kinda guessed he was on your list.

I'm guessing that the right hates him because he is throwing a pile of money at the left.

The left loves him because he is throwing a pile of money at the left.

But, the only stuff I have heard about him comes from the detractors.

Is he the debbil? What is the deal? He a commie? What is he.

I ain't listening to Kos and listening to Stormfront either.

re: #216 iceweasel

Okay. It is a LaRouche pub.

Is the information accurate?

re: #216 iceweasel

I'm not arguing for either side, Ice. Just thirsting for knowledge.

re: #219 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Okay. It is a LaRouche pub.

Is the information accurate?

What 'information'? Here's a snippet that Mandy somehow didn't quote:

Soros is one of what in medieval days were called Hofjuden, the "Court Jews," who were deployed by the aristocratic families.

The most important of such "Jews who are not Jews," are the Rothschilds, who launched Soros's career. They are members of the Club of the Isles and retainers of the British royal family. This has been true since Amschel Rothschild sold the British Hessian troops to fight against George Washington during the American Revolution.

It's a mishmash of crap, no footnotes, no links, no sources.

It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone."
Bart Giamatti.

I only posted this because Spring Training starts today.

Words fail:

Blame the victim: Religious leaflet claims ‘ungodly’ dressed women provoke rape

BRISTOL, Va. – Nineteen-year-old Keshia Canter handed three burgers, fries and milkshakes to a car-load of Tuesday afternoon customers at the Hi-Lo Burger’s drive-though window. A lady sitting in the backseat leaned forward, between the two men in front, and handed her a leaflet: “Women & Girls” it said across the top.

So what words of wisdom did said leaflet contain?

"Scripture tells us that when a man looks on a woman to lust for her he has already committed adultery in his heart. If you are dressed in a way that tempts a men to do this secret (or not so secret) sin, you are a participant in the sin," the leaflet states. "By the way, some rape victims would not have been raped if they had dressed properly. So can we really say they were innocent victims?"

Is it okay to call them the "American Taliban" now?

re: #40 SixDegrees

Chrysler killed the Viper. Fuck them.

St. Helens ‘spider’ will be used at Chilean volcano

[Link: www.heraldnet.com...]

"Geological “spiders,” packed with instruments to monitor the heaves, sighs and belches of Mount St. Helens, are expected to migrate south this month.

Two of the contraptions are headed to Chaiten, a volcano in Chile that began erupting in 2008 after about 9,000 years of dormancy. The spiders, as they are nicknamed, will be making their international debut."

re: #193 MandyManners

Mandy, why the fuck, why the hell are you distributing that Lyndon LaRouche crap?

In your zeal to attack Soros, you have sourced a holocaust denier, and now LaRouche's newspaper. Please be careful who you associate with; there are lots, and lots, and lots of people who are attacking Soros because he is a rich Jew.

[Link: www.sourcewatch.org...]

re: #223 publicityStunted

Yes.

re: #221 iceweasel

UGH!

Seriously?

That's kind of mean...

So, you're saying... it's not objective.

Who is?

re: #223 publicityStunted

I once referred to the early Puritan settlers as such and got bashed for it.

re: #222 Cannadian Club Akbar

It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone."
Bart Giamatti.

I only posted this because Spring Training starts today.

People will come, Ray...

The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again. Oh... people will come Ray. People will most definitely come.

re: #223 publicityStunted

Is it okay to call them the "American Taliban" now?

When they start beheading people, blowing shit up, and committing mass murder then you can call them the "American Taliban".

re: #225 Ericus58

I think they're gonna need it at Yellowstone...

I'm just sayin'.

As a Christian, I like everybody. Until they give me a reason not to. I hate all fanatics.
And BTW.. my radio just said Charles Rangel is asking for a leave of absence.

re: #228 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

UGH!

Seriously?

That's kind of mean...

So, you're saying... it's not objective.

Who is?

Yeah, it's pretty awful.
No one's objective. Look, there are reasonable criticisms to make of Soros and currency speculation, etc. But the Soros haters, as Obdicut mentions, contain a huge number of deranged antisemites. I know Mandy is not an antisemite, but in her Soros Derangement Syndrome she'll post anything at all, from any source, that attacks Soros.
IMO the reason the right hates him is (largely) because he contribues money to various left organisations. CAP, MoveOn, etc.

Not Media Matters though, at least not as late as 2007. Drudge, O'Reilly, Rush and others have falsely claimed that it's funded (or even founded) by Soros for years. It isn't.
I'd recommend the sourcewatch site Obdi just linked in general. You can find full lists there of everything the Soros Foundation has contributed to, etc.

re: #209 laZardo

Back from night college, and would like recommendations (particularly in the drinks and/or medication category) as to how to cure my case of the sad.

Why not just grab a beer, kick back, and get really depressed as yet another hitherto pleasant thread is swarmed and ruined by personal attacks?
Work calls, BBL.

re: #233 Cannadian Club Akbar

As a Christian, I like everybody. Until they give me a reason not to. I hate all fanatics.
And BTW.. my radio just said Charles Rangel is asking for a leave of absence.

Goodbye asshole!

re: #220 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm not arguing for either side, Ice. Just thirsting for knowledge.

FBV, I am too thirsting for information. Condensed, since I have neither the time nor the inclination (nor, frankly, the brainpower) to go through scads of financial information to figure out exactly what it is that Soros does.

I'm not a fan of Soros; I don't agree with or like his political leanings, and I think he's more of an opportunist than the philanthropist he seems to like to be known as.

But if you read the article closely, it appears to outline some vague web of connections, but it isn't clear to me how (or if) those connections are illegal or improperly used. It's a fact that those with money and ability will meet all sorts of people and have all sorts of connections. That alone is not necessarily illegal, immoral or unethical.

I actually don't have a problem with people taking advantage of opportunities that come their way, if moral, legal and ethical. And that seems to be what Soros does. He may skirt the boundaries of moral, legal, ethical (as do many others), but as of now, it doesn't appear to me he has crossed any lines.

Who's economy are we stimulating?

Senators seek to block stimulus money for overseas

WASHINGTON – A group of Democratic senators is urging the Obama administration to suspend an economic stimulus program aimed at financing renewable energy, complaining that money is going to projects that are creating jobs in foreign countries.

The four senators, led by Chuck Schumer of New York, wrote to Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner on Tuesday to request a moratorium on the Recovery Act program. They asked that the moratorium remain in place until they can pass legislation mandating stimulus aid flow only to projects which preserve and create U.S. jobs.

re: #235 Spare O'Lake

Or I could get a beer, kick back, and play Burnout till I pass out. Good suggestion though.

re: #238 NJDhockeyfan

Ours*, hopefully.

/*the Philippine economy, that is.

// q;

re: #237 reine.de.tout

He is really no different from hundreds of other big-money financiers who influence politics, except that he is Jewish and liberal.

We barely ever hear about the Waltons, for example, despite the massive amount of money and influence they spend on politics.

Mark Hemingway: Congressmen still mum on Rangel's 'Dirty Money'

Four members of Congress have now donated $33,000 they received from scandal-plagued Rep. Charlie Rangel, D-N.Y., to charity following inquiries by The Washington Examiner.

But dozens of other congressional recipients of Rangel's campaign cash remain curiously silent about whether they will return the money.

The Examiner has been profiling recipients of Rangel donations for several months in its "Dirty Money Watch" series.

Rangel's National Leadership Political Action Committee gave $884,000 to 106 House candidates and 11 Senate candidates during the 2008 campaign. Currently, 73 of those are House members, and nine hold Senate seats.

re: #223 publicityStunted

Words fail:

Blame the victim: Religious leaflet claims ‘ungodly’ dressed women provoke rape

Is it okay to call them the "American Taliban" now?

Yes. That article is extremely upsetting:

Even though nothing is showing, you’re being ungodly,” Canter recalled the woman telling her. “You make men want to be sinful.”

Canter was wearing boots pulled up over jeans, a pink zebra-print shirt with a black jacket zipped up over it. She has blond hair, dark eye make-up and a little red lip ring. “I just asked if she needed any salt, pepper or ketchup,” Canter said. “I mean, how do I respond to that?”

Minutes later, Canter’s mother, Pam Yates, who owns the restaurant, returned from the bank. Canter handed her “Women & Girls” and Yates started reading.

“You may have been given this leaflet because of the way you are dressed,” it begins. “Have you thought about standing before the true and living God to be judged?”

re: #230 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

People will come, Ray...

The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again. Oh... people will come Ray. People will most definitely come.

I was gonna put a field in my back yard. But I guess that's over.

re: #243 iceweasel

Even though nothing is showing, you’re being ungodly,” Canter recalled the woman telling her. “You make men want to be sinful.”

If I were a girl, and some woman said that to me, I think I'd claw her face off. How utterly insane.

re: #243 iceweasel

So creepy.

Brb shower.

I have an official World Series baseball from the year there was no World Series. '94?

re: #76 iceweasel

Ice - i spent a good two hours reading the mall ninja site when rwdflydnavy first posted it for me...how long have you been reading it?

(i'm catching up in the thread...only 'bout halfway through...just curious)

the mall ninja stuff may be the number one best link ever posted here...

re: #233 Cannadian Club Akbar

As a Christian, I like everybody. Until they give me a reason not to. I hate all fanatics.
And BTW.. my radio just said Charles Rangel is asking for a leave of absence.

Rep. Charlie Rangel (D-N.Y.) is temporarily stepping down as chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, days after being admonished by an ethics panel for taking two corporate-sponsored trips to the Caribbean in violation of House rules.

Rangel, 79, will take a "leave of absence" from the powerful committee beginning Wednesday as a House panel continues to investigate his campaign finances and unreported income from rental properties, reported.

The Ways and Means chairmanship could temporarily go to Rep. Pete Stark of California, the committee's second-ranking Democrat, according to .

It appeared increasingly unlikely that Rangel, a 20-term congressman, would survive a House vote this week on stripping him of the chairmanship of the powerful tax writing committee.

"We don't have the votes to save him," one Democratic member told NBC.

SNIP

re: #98 RogueOne

Good news for Detroit...Cleveland is "The Most Miserable city in the US"

[Link: reason.com...]

i left 10 years ago and never looked back...

re: #249 Aceofwhat?

Ice - i spent a good two hours reading the mall ninja site when rwdflydnavy first posted it for me...how long have you been reading it?

(i'm catching up in the thread...only 'bout halfway through...just curious)

the mall ninja stuff may be the number one best link ever posted here...

I loved that link. It was just one post though, it didn't take me that long to read it. (I'm a pretty fast reader, I admit). Maybe there's more on that site?