What Right Wing Racism?

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This comes as no surprise to anyone who’s been reading the comments at right wing sites like Free Republic or Hot Air (where Michelle Obama is often compared to a gorilla, as we’ve documented at LGF), but now the craziness is breaking out into the open, as a prominent right winger in Tennessee sends out an email comparing the First Lady to a chimpanzee.

Walt Baker, the prominent CEO of the powerful Tennessee Hospitality Association who was a key figure in gaining approval of the controversial $585 million convention center, sent the kind of “joke” email last night — comparing First Lady Michelle Obama to Tarzan’s Cheeta — that might stop even Michael Richards in his tracks. (The entire email on the jump.)

Baker forwarded the racist missive — introduced with this: “Quoting Larry the Cable Guy … I don’t care who you are, this is funny” — to 12 prominent Nashvillians, including mayoral legislative aide Toby Compton, Nashville

Convention & Visitors’ Bureau head Butch Spyridon, lobbyists Joe Hall and Peter Heidenreich, former Scene editor and publisher, respectively, Bruce Dobie and Albie Del Favero, and Nashville Post reporter Ken Whitehouse.

Coming from a hospitality czar, the post didn’t strike recipients as particularly hospitable.

“I don’t think it’s funny — period,” Dobie says. “Anything else I have to say about it I’ve already let Walt know.”

Whitehouse calls the email “disgusting.”

Here’s the email Baker sent:

From: Walt Baker

To: Albie DelFavero, Bruce Dobie, Butch Spyridon, Joe Hall, Peter Heidenreich, Terry Clements, Toby Compton, Chuck Creasy, Rob Moorefield, Ken Whitehouse, Paul Brown, Bob Davis

Date: March 4, 2010 9:18:29 PM CST

Quoting Larry the Cable Guy…I don’t care who you are, this is funny…

I was at the store yesterday, and I ran into Tarzan! I asked him how it was going and if he was into anymore movies.



He told me that he could no longer make any more movies as he had severe arthritis in both shoulders and could no longer swing from vine to tree.



I asked how Jane was doing, he told me she was in bad shape, in a nursing home, has Alzheimer’s and no longer recognizes anyone, how sad. I asked about Boy, and he told me that Boy had gone to the big city, got hooked up with bad women, drugs, alcohol, and the only time he heard from him was if he was in trouble or needed something.


I asked about Cheeta, he beamed and said she was doing good, had married a Lawyer and now lived in the White House!!!

(Hat tip: Killgore Trout.)

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396 comments
1 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:04:26pm

I recuse myself from this thread. I get a little excited on this topic.

2 jamesfirecat  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:05:17pm

Sigh... not thinking.

Its only okay to compare white people to monkeys because we've never been considered the "inferior race", that and there should be a simple standard about this kind of thing.

If you aren't a member of that racial group you shouldn't make jokes about it.

For example I am white so I feel no shame in posting this....

Image: BushChimp.jpg

3 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:09:09pm

Vile and stupid. This return of racism turns my stomach. This asshole Baker needs to be stepped on, hard and fast. If some people don't like it and decide to go fishing on election day, fine. I'd rather lose an election than win with the support of people like that.

4 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:12:19pm

Well. Gosh. Expletive Deleted; then un-deleted. What an asshole!

5 avanti  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:13:22pm

At least the guy lost his contract over the "joke"


link.

6 Lidane  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:14:40pm

re: #3 Dark_Falcon

Vile and stupid. This return of racism turns my stomach.

As it should. Racism in any form is just mind-numbing idiocy.

To paraphrase Henry Rollins, skin color is a speed bump less than an inch high on the road of life. If you can't get over that, you're a moron.

7 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:14:43pm

It's nice to know that every day the bar is raised on who can be the "stupidest".

The guy should lose any position, if not for the racism, for the lack of common sense.

8 jaunte  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:16:45pm

re: #5 avanti

His fake apology just underlines his asshole status.

Baker is CEO of the Tennessee Hospitality Association. He apologized in an email to Metro Council members Saturday, suggesting that he had been misinterpreted:

"Thursday night I spontaneously forwarded - to a small group of people - an email that had been sent to me as political humor," Baker wrote. "As I forwarded it, I did not think or consider its implications, other than that it was political humor. I am saddened that anyone misinterpreted the sentiments behind the email. I deeply apologize to anyone who is offended by this action. I hope that those who know me realize that the message was not intended to be malicious or hurtful in any way and can find it in their hearts to forgive me.”

9 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:16:51pm

let's forget for a moment how nauseating the message is. how fucked up do you have to be to think it's funny?

10 abbyadams  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:17:22pm

re: #2 jamesfirecat

Upding not for the pictures, but for the understanding of the history.

11 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:18:26pm

re: #5 avanti


"Thursday night I spontaneously forwarded - to a small group of people - an email that had been sent to me as political humor," Baker wrote. "As I forwarded it, I did not think or consider its implications, other than that it was political humor. I am saddened that anyone misinterpreted the sentiments behind the email. I deeply apologize to anyone who is offended by this action. I hope that those who know me realize that the message was not intended to be malicious or hurtful in any way and can find it in their hearts to forgive me.”

Mmm hmm.

12 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:19:31pm

re: #2 jamesfirecat

That thar Baker's pretty dang inferior.

13 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:20:57pm

This low-life motherfucker is not typical of Tennessee.

14 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:22:36pm

re: #8 jaunte

His fake apology just underlines his asshole status.

It's like Iron Fist all over again. A refusal to even see how something like that would appear to a black person.

15 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:23:47pm

Well, fudge.

(but I didn't say fudge)

G'night knuckleheads.

16 UncleSam  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:24:16pm

That's just plain wrong.
And stupid.
And undeniably racist.

17 Cato the Elder  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:24:27pm

Fictional right-wing quote of the day:

"I have spent my life demanding that people blame themselves for their own misfortunes."

--Sen. Rosewater, father of Eliot Rosewater, God Bless You, Mr. Rosewater, by Kurt Vonnegut

18 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:28:58pm

re: #17 Cato the Elder

Fictional right-wing quote of the day:

Senator Rosewater is not a hero in that book (though the his son is in many ways an anti-hero), but his quote is spot on for this occasion.

19 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:29:10pm

Here's another asshole from the other side of the aisle.

Fucker blames it on Rush (and Charles)...

Really... g'night.

20 Spockista  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:29:35pm

This really makes my blood boil!

Does this racist pig think this is OKAY?

Because it's disgusting!

He should be boycotted.

21 PowerFlip  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:31:32pm

What Walt Baker did 100% wrong, in total bad taste, and is completely morally bankrupt. No question about it.

But how is it that Walt Baker a representative of the entire right?

22 Cato the Elder  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:31:57pm

I hope he loses more than his job.

Trouble is, people like this have multiple "jobs" - sitting on "boards of directors", clipping dividend coupons, grinding the faces of the poor.

I hope he loses his house, his wife, his cars, his country-club membership, and his grin.

23 Cato the Elder  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:32:28pm

re: #21 PowerFlip

Not this again.

24 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:32:36pm

re: #22 Cato the Elder

Maybe his mistress(s) should just go public?

25 jamesfirecat  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:33:08pm

re: #21 PowerFlip

What Walt Baker did 100% wrong, in total bad taste, and is completely morally bankrupt. No question about it.

But how is it that Walt Baker a representative of the entire right?

He doesn't but he's a point of data.

In theory if we collect enough points of data we can create a reasonably predictive pattern....

26 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:33:21pm

re: #19 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Here's another asshole from the other side of the aisle.

Fucker blames it on Rush (and Charles)...

Really... g'night.

Asshole Dem goes down. GOP asshole going down for this racist email would make a nice matched set. Both liberals and conservatives throw out the trash for a nice start to spring.

27 Cato the Elder  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:34:45pm

OT - Charles, could we have another lounge to relax in tonight?

Last night was a lot of fun, and the meat was gamey and plentiful.

28 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:35:38pm

re: #20 Spockista

This really makes my blood boil!

Does this racist pig think this is OKAY?

Because it's disgusting!

He should be boycotted.

Oh, for goodness' sake.

Of course he thinks it's okay.

29 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:35:55pm

re: #23 Cato the Elder

Not this again.

it probably isn't...admit or go home

30 avanti  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:36:00pm

re: #21 PowerFlip

What Walt Baker did 100% wrong, in total bad taste, and is completely morally bankrupt. No question about it.

But how is it that Walt Baker a representative of the entire right?

Certainly not the entire right, we know others think differently just reading here. Having said that, I've had dozens of racist e-mails forwarded to me, but so far, none from the middle or left.

31 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:36:26pm

re: #21 PowerFlip

What Walt Baker did 100% wrong, in total bad taste, and is completely morally bankrupt. No question about it.

But how is it that Walt Baker a representative of the entire right?

Because it's easy to make him so?

32 Cato the Elder  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:36:41pm

re: #28 MandyManners

He not only thinks it's OK, he thinks it somehow comes under the heading of "political humor".

33 laZardo  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:37:06pm

re: #30 avanti

Certainly not the entire right, we know others think differently just reading here. Having said that, I've had dozens of racist e-mails forwarded to me, but so far, none from the middle or left.

I don't expect that sort of thing from the middle or left these days anyway.

34 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:37:11pm

re: #22 Cato the Elder

I hope he loses more than his job.

Trouble is, people like this have multiple "jobs" - sitting on "boards of directors", clipping dividend coupons, grinding the faces of the poor.

I hope he loses his house, his wife, his cars, his country-club membership, and his grin.

Wow. I do a bit of that. Am I the same?

35 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:37:16pm

re: #32 Cato the Elder

He not only thinks it's OK, he thinks it somehow comes under the heading of "political humor".

uh oh...

36 political lunatic  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:37:18pm

Just another day in the life of the far right, I'm afraid. This crap doesn't shock me anymore, but I'm still disgusted by it.

37 Cato the Elder  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:37:49pm

re: #29 albusteve

it probably isn't...admit or go home

I am home.

38 jamesfirecat  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:38:04pm

re: #32 Cato the Elder

He not only thinks it's OK, he thinks it somehow comes under the heading of "political humor".

He thinks it comes under the heading political humor that has universal appeal.... "I don’t care who you are, this is funny…"

39 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:38:34pm

Why in the hell I dropped my GAZE is beyond me.

40 Cato the Elder  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:39:37pm

re: #34 MandyManners

Wow. I do a bit of that. Am I the same?

You also do a bit of sick "political humor" with your avatar.

41 PowerFlip  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:39:59pm

re: #25 jamesfirecat

"But how is it that Walt Baker a representative of the entire right?"

"He doesn't but he's a point of data."

If Baker doesn't represent the entire right, as you say, doesn't implying that he does, amount to a smear aimed at the entire right?

Or do some people have a template:
Racist = Right
Right = Racist

42 laZardo  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:40:14pm

re: #26 Dark_Falcon

'cept I'm guessing that this sort of thing will keep Mr. Baker at the head of his office.

43 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:40:43pm

re: #36 political lunatic

Just another day in the life of the far right, I'm afraid. This crap doesn't shock me anymore, but I'm still disgusted by it.

racism is a bipartisan historical fact in America...if your perspective is so narrow and your education so limited then I suppose you could say it's a right wing thing for now...otherwise there are plenty of democrat racists, but to ply their minority votes, it's veiled in liberal politics

44 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:41:00pm

re: #22 Cato the Elder

I hope he loses more than his job.

Trouble is, people like this have multiple "jobs" - sitting on "boards of directors", clipping dividend coupons, grinding the faces of the poor.

I hope he loses his house, his wife, his cars, his country-club membership, and his grin.

C'mon Cato, tell us how you REALLY feel...

45 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:41:50pm

re: #37 Cato the Elder

I am home.

home might be NM?...get your ass down here for a business visit

46 avanti  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:41:51pm

re: #33 laZardo

I don't expect that sort of thing from the middle or left these days anyway.

The left, right and middle seem to share the sex and tax scandals equally, but some on the right have pretty much cornered the racist, truther, birther and anti science stuff.

47 Racer X  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:41:58pm

re: #30 avanti

Certainly not the entire right, we know others think differently just reading here. Having said that, I've had dozens of racist e-mails forwarded to me, but so far, none from the middle or left.

I remember receiving emails that were very racist towards Condi Rice.

Yes, bad then and bad now.

48 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:44:34pm

i haven't been on LGF in many moons -- good to see some familiar names.

not so good to see the level of bad crazy but at least it reminds me that i'm still sane!

49 political lunatic  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:45:04pm

re: #43 albusteve

Good point. I'm sure plenty of the far left go too far to help minorities because they think minorities can't live life on their own or are inherently disadvantaged. That's just as bad as right wing racism, IMO.

50 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:45:57pm

re: #48 Querent

i haven't been on LGF in many moons -- good to see some familiar names.

not so good to see the level of bad crazy but at least it reminds me that i'm still sane!

If you haven't been here in a while, how do you know the inmates haven't taken over the asylum and you just walked into a nut hive? We do a good job of imitating those sane Lizards we got rid of.

51 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:46:03pm

*sighs* That's as racist as it gets. I hope this email goes viral and this creep's reputation annihilated. Miserable cretin.

52 What, me worry?  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:46:07pm

re: #47 Racer X

I remember receiving emails that were very racist towards Condi Rice.

Yes, bad then and bad now.

Most of us have received racist emails at some point in our computer lives. In fact, during the election, I lost a g/f through email because we got into a terrible flame war over the racist things she sent me that she didn't recognize as such. The things you find out about people...

But this is different. This is from someone with substantial influence. He didn't know better?

53 jamesfirecat  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:46:32pm

re: #41 PowerFlip

"But how is it that Walt Baker a representative of the entire right?"

"He doesn't but he's a point of data."

If Baker doesn't represent the entire right, as you say, doesn't implying that he does, amount to a smear aimed at the entire right?

Or do some people have a template:
Racist = Right
Right = Racist

Who has implyed that he represents the entire right exactly?

54 laZardo  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:46:35pm

re: #50 Walter L. Newton

If you haven't been here in a while, how do you know the inmates haven't taken over the asylum and you just walked into a nut hive? We do a good job of imitating those sane Lizards we got rid of.

You're not a Prison Break fan too, are you?

/ q:

55 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:47:01pm

re: #51 eclectic infidel

*sighs* That's as racist as it gets. I hope this email goes viral and this creep's reputation annihilated. Miserable cretin.

It's purely racist.

56 Velvet Elvis  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:47:08pm

re: #13 MandyManners

This low-life motherfucker is not typical of Tennessee.

Depends on what part of TN you're talking about. I've seen a lot of teh crazy around here.

57 Decatur Deb  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:47:15pm

re: #50 Walter L. Newton

Shhh. Wait til he gets past hydrotherapy.

58 austin_blue  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:47:34pm

re: #41 PowerFlip

"But how is it that Walt Baker a representative of the entire right?"

"He doesn't but he's a point of data."

If Baker doesn't represent the entire right, as you say, doesn't implying that he does, amount to a smear aimed at the entire right?

Or do some people have a template:
Racist = Right
Right = Racist

Then why publish his tripe on your website? Why not just hit the delete button?

59 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:47:44pm

re: #50 Walter L. Newton

If you haven't been here in a while, how do you know the inmates haven't taken over the asylum and you just walked into a nut hive? We do a good job of imitating those sane Lizards we got rid of.

That may be true, Walter -- but i give anyone, right or wrong, who dares debate Mandy an upding for courage!

60 jamesfirecat  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:48:45pm

re: #46 avanti

The left, right and middle seem to share the sex and tax scandals equally, but some on the right have pretty much cornered the racist, truther, birther and anti science stuff.

Now be fair, the right hasn't cornered the market on the truther stuff last time I checked (please let me be wrong, please let me be wrong)

61 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:48:50pm

re: #54 laZardo

You're not a Prison Break fan too, are you?

/ q:

What's that? If it's a TV show, no. The only TV show I watch directly on TV has been LOST.

The only TV show I have been watching on DVD is the first season of "Dollhouse" because one of my step critters is a fan, and she wanted me to watch it, so I watch an episode a week.

Other than that, I don't do TV, and there is not much serialize TV show that I would want to watch.

62 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:49:22pm

re: #48 Querent

i haven't been on LGF in many moons -- good to see some familiar names.

not so good to see the level of bad crazy but at least it reminds me that i'm still sane!

Glad to see you back. I'm glad to see someone from back in the day who we normally don't see.

63 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:49:36pm

The Hoopster and Winston are Home via Taxi and have a NASCAR Party to go to at noon Sunday..Poor Winston...He is asleep right now
Hi Lizards!

64 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:49:38pm

Dropping the rope.

65 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:50:11pm

I wonder, if racism, like gay prejudice, cell phone usage, and the internet, are just things that will take generational change to resolve. I was born & raised in So.Cal., but the racist attitudes that I experienced at home, still pop into my mind. I know they're not right, but they are what I was raised with. I think the tide of change is rising, but it may take a whole generation. or more, to be rid of tese attitudes.

66 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:50:27pm

re: #64 MandyManners

Dropping the rope.

Can I have it?

68 PowerFlip  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:50:47pm

re: #53 jamesfirecat

I looked at the Title:

"What Right Wing Racism".

I looked over the articles on this subject on google search, and I didn't see anything that would label him to the Republicans.

Maybe Baker is an old-school George Wallace Democrat? Who knows?

69 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:51:29pm

re: #63 HoosierHoops

Did Winston get his bath last night?
I went to bed, while you were still chasing him!
*waves*

70 austin_blue  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:51:37pm

re: #47 Racer X

I remember receiving emails that were very racist towards Condi Rice.

Yes, bad then and bad now.

Really? Condi? Were they sent by Liberals? I'm betting not. I've always liked her, even if I disagreed with some of the crap coming out of State. She has spunk. Decent piano player, too.

71 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:52:09pm

re: #49 political lunatic

Good point. I'm sure plenty of the far left go too far to help minorities because they think minorities can't live life on their own or are inherently disadvantaged. That's just as bad as right wing racism, IMO.

yes, no doubt, but being less overt it's harder to see, describe and justify...but imo it's there and there is a long history to prove it

72 Cato the Elder  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:52:13pm

re: #68 PowerFlip

I looked at the Title:

"What Right Wing Racism".

I looked over the articles on this subject on google search, and I didn't see anything that would label him to the Republicans.

Maybe Baker is an old-school George Wallace Democrat? Who knows?

Maybe he is. Why don't you go research that and get back to us in a month or so?

73 Velvet Elvis  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:52:23pm

Thanks for the downding Mandy. I'm from here. I know what I've seen. Your downding won't change that. There's no place else I'd rather live, but it is what it is.

74 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:52:42pm

re: #41 PowerFlip

"But how is it that Walt Baker a representative of the entire right?"

"He doesn't but he's a point of data."

If Baker doesn't represent the entire right, as you say, doesn't implying that he does, amount to a smear aimed at the entire right?

Or do some people have a template:
Racist = Right
Right = Racist

You're grasping for straws with that template of yours. I read the series of exchanges in this sub thread and the poster who initially responded to you made no such assumptions about folk on "the right."

75 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:52:50pm

This can be eradicated.

Youtube Video
76 austin_blue  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:52:59pm

re: #56 Conservative Moonbat

Depends on what part of TN you're talking about. I've seen a lot of teh crazy around here.

Yeah, this kind of shit never happened when Harold Ford was running!

Oh, wait.......

77 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:53:05pm

re: #66 Walter L. Newton

Can I have it?

Go for it!

78 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:53:19pm

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

Glad to see you back. I'm glad to see someone from back in the day who we normally don't see.

last time i was on i had a Hades of a time trying to keep the site from hanging on me -- it was infuriating. Whatever it was, Charles must have fixed it.

79 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:53:49pm

re: #57 Decatur Deb

Shhh. Wait til he gets past hydrotherapy.

waterboarding?

80 austin_blue  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:54:37pm

re: #68 PowerFlip

I looked at the Title:

"What Right Wing Racism".

I looked over the articles on this subject on google search, and I didn't see anything that would label him to the Republicans.

Maybe Baker is an old-school George Wallace Democrat? Who knows?

"Old George Wallace Democrats" are now the core of the whack Republican base, if you haven't noticed.

81 What, me worry?  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:54:45pm

re: #76 austin_blue

Yeah, this kind of shit never happened when Harold Ford was running!

Oh, wait...

OMG I love him.

82 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:54:48pm
83 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:55:17pm

re: #69 Floral Giraffe

Did Winston get his bath last night?
I went to bed, while you were still chasing him!
*waves*

Hi You! Saturday night and we got home from a party...
Winston is the most spoiled dog in the world...

84 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:55:27pm

re: #73 Conservative Moonbat

Thanks for the downding Mandy. I'm from here. I know what I've seen. Your downding won't change that. There's no place else I'd rather live, but it is what it is.

I lived all over Tennessee.

I was born there. My family was involved in founding it. I will move to the mountains one day.

Sorry. I'm a bit irrational about it.

85 PowerFlip  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:55:46pm

re: #72 Cato the Elder

So... tow the party line or leave?

No debate is allowed?

I don't throw around insults, or refuse to respond to a logical argument. (Troll-like behavior).

Are not my questions valid?

86 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:56:12pm

re: #68 PowerFlip

I looked at the Title:

"What Right Wing Racism".

I looked over the articles on this subject on google search, and I didn't see anything that would label him to the Republicans.

Maybe Baker is an old-school George Wallace Democrat? Who knows?

And those sorts of Democrats were generally reckoned as "right-wing". They were very similar to teabaggers in their populism and ill-concealed racism.

87 laZardo  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:57:08pm

re: #86 Dark_Falcon

Hence, conservatism not having a consistent party affiliation across time.

88 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:57:09pm

re: #85 PowerFlip

So... tow the party line or leave?

No debate is allowed?

I don't throw around insults, or refuse to respond to a logical argument. (Troll-like behavior).

Are not my questions valid?

troll like?...not this shit again...grow some nuts

89 Gus  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:57:15pm

I'd be interested to learn more about this convention he "sold" to the people of Nashville. So far it looks like it's being funded by public funds and "substantial federal UDAG grant...used to pay debt service for about 20 years..." Some of the funding that will be used and as boasted by the racist mentioned in this article will be provided with hotel tax revenue. Yep, looks like we have ourselves another double talking loud mouth right-winger.

90 Cato the Elder  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:57:22pm

re: #85 PowerFlip

So... tow the party line or leave?

No debate is allowed?

I don't throw around insults, or refuse to respond to a logical argument. (Troll-like behavior).

Are not my questions valid?

Not "tow". Toe.

When I see a logical argument from you, I'll respond.

If I'm in the mood.

91 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:57:29pm

re: #85 PowerFlip

So... tow the party line or leave?

No debate is allowed?

I don't throw around insults, or refuse to respond to a logical argument. (Troll-like behavior).

Are not my questions valid?

Do what you must!!!

92 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:57:38pm

re: #83 HoosierHoops

Hi You! Saturday night and we got home from a party...
Winston is the most spoiled dog in the world...

I take that to mean, he got away.....
;)

93 Decatur Deb  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:57:53pm

re: #79 albusteve

waterboarding?

Walter was luring him into the asylum.

94 Velvet Elvis  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:58:04pm

re: #76 austin_blue

Yeah, this kind of shit never happened when Harold Ford was running!

Oh, wait...

There was a fair bit of racism during the Democratic primaries here too. At least in the south I think that's what a lot of the PUMA movement was about.

95 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:58:10pm

re: #85 PowerFlip

So... tow the party line or leave?

No debate is allowed?

I don't throw around insults, or refuse to respond to a logical argument. (Troll-like behavior).

Are not my questions valid?

The meter is reading you:

Youtube Video
96 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:58:13pm

re: #68 PowerFlip

I looked at the Title:

"What Right Wing Racism".

I looked over the articles on this subject on google search, and I didn't see anything that would label him to the Republicans.

Maybe Baker is an old-school George Wallace Democrat? Who knows?

You really worked hard on this, didn't you?

"Well, based on what I've learned about Nashville politics and civic leadership, Walt Baker will be the communications director of the Tennessee Republican Party in a few months."

[Link: blogs.nashvillescene.com...]

97 Gus  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:58:20pm

re: #82 BryanS

Uh, American Digest?

98 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:58:25pm

re: #86 Dark_Falcon

And those sorts of Democrats were generally reckoned as "right-wing". They were very similar to teabaggers in their populism and ill-concealed racism.

Please, show some proof that George Wallace was considered "right wing" at the steps of that school.

99 avanti  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:58:40pm

re: #65 Floral Giraffe

I wonder, if racism, like gay prejudice, cell phone usage, and the internet, are just things that will take generational change to resolve. I was born & raised in So.Cal., but the racist attitudes that I experienced at home, still pop into my mind. I know they're not right, but they are what I was raised with. I think the tide of change is rising, but it may take a whole generation. or more, to be rid of tese attitudes.


By dad was a immigrant from Greece early this century, and he and his friends were both racists and antisemitic.
When I was a kid, I recall my godfather asking a gas station attendant if the owner was Jewish, since he did not give any business to Jews.
That sort of conduct disgusted me and make me much more tolerant, and my son has zero patience for any kind of prudence. I think as time goes by, things will improve.

100 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:58:49pm

re: #75 MandyManners

This can be eradicated.


[Video]

Eradicated like David Crosby's septum.

101 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:58:53pm

re: #88 albusteve

troll like?...not this shit again...grow some nuts

*ahem*

102 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:59:12pm

PowerFlip doesn't smell all that gamy to me -- he could just be trying to give the right wing the benefit of the doubt.

Then again, it's also pollen season, so my snout may be clogged.

103 jaunte  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 8:59:41pm

Good comment from Nashville:


John Marion:

You can gauge a person's character when they make a mistake by their reaction(s) to it. In this case, the absolute WORST reaction is to say 1) no racist intent was meant in the first place while 2) apologize if anyone was so foolish to be offended.

Most of us Southerners are not fools. We are continually aware that we must tread on thin ice when it comes to race, because we are assumed guilty for any slip that is race-related in any way.

What concern's me about too many of Tennessee's leaders, is the absolute naivete regarding this basic fact. I don't hear nearly the level of these ignorant actions going on in other southern states (even Mississippi). When it does happen, the reactions are swift and stern. Remember what happened in Virginia to Senator George Allen?

And yes, anyone with common sense knows this was racist. I have to shamefully admit there was a time earlier in my life I would have found this e-mail funny. We all know what was meant. You will get more respect back and receive forgiveness by just "fessing up" and saying your sorry. [Link: blogs.nashvillescene.com...]

104 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:00:00pm

re: #92 Floral Giraffe

I take that to mean, he got away...
;)

Just a beautiful Day in Indiana..Last I checked there is only 2" of snow on the pool..It's getting warming here..Springtime my Friend!

105 BryanS  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:00:40pm

re: #97 Gus 802

Uh, American Digest?

Don't know anything about it beyond searching for the words "condi rice racism" in google. According to the posting, it was posted in the washington post by Pat Oliphant.

106 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:00:41pm

re: #101 MandyManners

*ahem*

"Cato's mean to me!...waaah!"
I see no blood or bruises

107 jamesfirecat  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:00:41pm

re: #99 avanti

By dad was a immigrant from Greece early this century, and he and his friends were both racists and antisemitic.
When I was a kid, I recall my godfather asking a gas station attendant if the owner was Jewish, since he did not give any business to Jews.
That sort of conduct disgusted me and make me much more tolerant, and my son has zero patience for any kind of prudence. I think as time goes by, things will improve.

I've got to admit it's getting better
Little better all the time....

108 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:00:55pm

re: #99 avanti
bravo, but i'm sure you mean prejudice, not prudence -- which would be a fine thing for your son to have as well!

109 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:01:00pm

re: #90 Cato the Elder

Not "tow". Toe.

When I see a logical argument from you, I'll respond.

If I'm in the mood.

Here are some routinely published errors that make me want to rip out the idiot editor's throat:

"tow the line"
"put through the ringer"
"tough road to hoe"
"pouring over an ancient text"

110 Gus  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:02:37pm

re: #105 BryanS

Don't know anything about it beyond searching for the words "condi rice racism" in google. According to the posting, it was posted in the washington post by Pat Oliphant.

Vanderleun uses American Digest to slam Charles and LGF often. IOW, it's basically a stalker site.

111 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:02:45pm

re: #104 HoosierHoops

Just a beautiful Day in Indiana..Last I checked there is only 2" of snow on the pool..It's getting warming here..Springtime my Friend!

you could get plastered yet, and I don't mean on Red Stripe

112 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:02:47pm

re: #98 MandyManners

Please, show some proof that George Wallace was considered "right wing" at the steps of that school.

They were not conservative in the way Reagan or Goldwater were. "Reactionary" would perhaps be a better word. Does that work for you, Mandy?

113 Velvet Elvis  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:02:48pm

re: #84 MandyManners

I lived all over Tennessee.

I was born there. My family was involved in founding it. I will move to the mountains one day.

Sorry. I'm a bit irrational about it.

I totally understand. My mom's family is from east TN. I've been in the Nashville area all my life. Some of the worst racism I've seen has been in the upper middle class Nashville exurbs Wiliamson county and the like. Half of them moved in from other southern states because of the low tax rates and cheap property values anyway.

114 austin_blue  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:03:05pm

re: #49 political lunatic

Good point. I'm sure plenty of the far left go too far to help minorities because they think minorities can't live life on their own or are inherently disadvantaged. That's just as bad as right wing racism, IMO.

How insightful and condescending of you. Maybe they want to help them because they need help? Hmm? Nice white male Conservative attitude there. Imagine growing up poor, brown, and in a city with no tax base for education.

Good luck with that life. Only the extraordinary escape it. I imagine you'd likely be dead or in prison by 24. That is their reality.

115 avanti  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:03:55pm

re: #108 Querent

bravo, but i'm sure you mean prejudice, not prudence -- which would be a fine thing for your son to have as well!

Clicked on the wrong spell checker word, sorry.

116 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:03:59pm

re: #109 Alouette

Here are some routinely published errors that make me want to rip out the idiot editor's throat:

"tow the line"
"put through the ringer"
"tough road to hoe"
"pouring over an ancient text"

Let's here it four Spell Checher!

117 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:04:37pm

re: #111 albusteve

you could get plastered yet, and I don't mean on Red Stripe

What do you mean?

118 BryanS  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:06:21pm

re: #110 Gus 802

Vanderleun uses American Digest to slam Charles and LGF often. IOW, it's basically a stalker site.

Ahhh...just google then "Pat Oliphant november 16 2004". Multiple sources will confirm that was a comic posted in the Washington Post on that day.

It is an obnoxious cartoon about Condi Rice. I don't see how the memory of blatant racism towards her by the left could be denied or forgotten so soon.

Not to excuse it in the case of this thread pointing out obnoxious racism on the right. I don't see how anyone sending that email can send that without intending the racist sentiments.

119 Decatur Deb  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:06:24pm

re: #99 avanti

By dad was a immigrant from Greece early this century, and he and his friends were both racists and antisemitic.
When I was a kid, I recall my godfather asking a gas station attendant if the owner was Jewish, since he did not give any business to Jews.
That sort of conduct disgusted me and make me much more tolerant, and my son has zero patience for any kind of prudence. I think as time goes by, things will improve.

How old, and what in you caused disgust? This is very interesting to me.

120 Velvet Elvis  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:06:26pm

re: #89 Gus 802

I'd be interested to learn more about this convention he "sold" to the people of Nashville. So far it looks like it's being funded by public funds and "substantial federal UDAG grant...used to pay debt service for about 20 years..." Some of the funding that will be used and as boasted by the racist mentioned in this article will be provided with hotel tax revenue. Yep, looks like we have ourselves another double talking loud mouth right-winger.

[Link: www.nashvillescene.com...]

I think that's the article I'm thinking of.

121 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:06:42pm

re: #112 Dark_Falcon

They were not conservative in the way Reagan or Goldwater were. "Reactionary" would perhaps be a better word. Does that work for you, Mandy?

whatever...it never ceases to amaze me how people will complicate, cloud and obfuscate an issue...Wallace was a die hard, cold blooded democrat racist...it's not as complicated as you want it to be with your crossover ideology...there are racists in both parties...isn't that really easier?

122 Racer X  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:07:07pm

Glazed donut bacon cheeseburger.

My heart hurts just looking at it.

123 PowerFlip  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:07:24pm

...more racist monkey pics?

Image: bush-monkey1.jpg

124 austin_blue  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:07:30pm

re: #82 BryanS

Yes, against Condi. The left hated her very much.

This is the kind of thing that was routine--and ignored by the left--back then:

[Link: www.americandigest.org...]

I hang with a Lefty bunch and have never received a single e-mail that was in any way, shape, or form racist. Some snide e-mails about when she referred to GWB as her husband? Sure.

But racist? Pshaw. That's not our style, my man. There's a lot black and brown people in that "Reply to All" button. Are you fucking kidding?

125 shai_au  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:07:32pm

Bad taste issues aide, the joke in the OP isn't even the slightest bit funny. It's an insult to my sense of humor.

126 Gus  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:07:33pm

re: #118 BryanS

Ahhh...just google then "Pat Oliphant november 16 2004". Multiple sources will confirm that was a comic posted in the Washington Post on that day.

It is an obnoxious cartoon about Condi Rice. I don't see how the memory of blatant racism towards her by the left could be denied or forgotten so soon.

Not to excuse it in the case of this thread pointing out obnoxious racism on the right. I don't see how anyone sending that email can send that without intending the racist sentiments.

I know. Just pointing out that American Digest will raise a few hairs. Vanderleun is a creep.

127 What, me worry?  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:07:47pm

re: #82 BryanS

Yes, against Condi. The left hated her very much.

This is the kind of thing that was routine--and ignored by the left--back then:

[Link: www.americandigest.org...]

There was an Aunt Jemima one too. I never saw any of those until after the Obama election, however, when they were presented as past examples.

The criticism of Condi, however, wasn't about her race or gender. You can look at liberal blogs and they may hate her, but they hate her because she's a Republican and very loyal to Bush. I never liked her politics either, but I have a lot of respect for her as a person.

128 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:07:47pm

re: #117 HoosierHoops

What do you mean?

a good old fashioned March winter parting shot...Boom!....8 inches of snow out of the blue

129 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:08:06pm

re: #113 Conservative Moonbat

I totally understand. My mom's family is from east TN. I've been in the Nashville area all my life. Some of the worst racism I've seen has been in the upper middle class Nashville exurbs Wiliamson county and the like. Half of them moved in from other southern states because of the low tax rates and cheap property values anyway.

The first Nazi I met was in Seattle. In the 80s. He was with Barclay's Bank in Vancouver, B.C..

130 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:08:44pm

re: #123 PowerFlip

...more racist monkey pics?

[Link: maaadddog.files.wordpress.com...]

no need

131 Gus  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:09:17pm

re: #123 PowerFlip

...more racist monkey pics?

[Link: maaadddog.files.wordpress.com...]

Big difference genius.

132 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:09:56pm

re: #123 PowerFlip

...more racist monkey pics?

[Link: maaadddog.files.wordpress.com...]

Fuck that.

133 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:10:06pm

re: #128 albusteve

a good old fashioned March winter parting shot...Boom!...8 inches of snow out of the blue

You know it's coming.. Just when you think it's springtime in Indiana..Boom! Snow!

134 jamesfirecat  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:10:10pm

re: #118 BryanS

Ahhh...just google then "Pat Oliphant november 16 2004". Multiple sources will confirm that was a comic posted in the Washington Post on that day.

It is an obnoxious cartoon about Condi Rice. I don't see how the memory of blatant racism towards her by the left could be denied or forgotten so soon.

Not to excuse it in the case of this thread pointing out obnoxious racism on the right. I don't see how anyone sending that email can send that without intending the racist sentiments.

I may just be an ostrich with my head in the sand, but I don't see any obvious racism in comparing a black person to a parrot the way I do in comparing one to a monkey.....

135 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:10:12pm

re: #123 PowerFlip

...more racist monkey pics?

[Link: maaadddog.files.wordpress.com...]

And now, give us your great insight. What is racist about associating a monkey with a white person?

136 BryanS  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:10:25pm

re: #123 PowerFlip

...more racist monkey pics?

[Link: maaadddog.files.wordpress.com...]

It's not the same thing. The context of the history of our country would explain that to anyone who isn't blind. Calling Bush a monkey is insulting, but he's a white guy. Sorry this ticks you off so much, but the same symbols and insults cannot be made about white and black people.

137 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:10:25pm

re: #123 PowerFlip

That's not the same thing and you know it! It is different when the persno being compared to a monkey is black, because black people were routinely subjected to that racist charactiture for over a century.

138 jaunte  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:10:29pm

Derailing resources:
[Link: www.derailingfordummies.com...]

139 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:10:43pm

re: #125 shai_au

Bad taste issues aide, the joke in the OP isn't even the slightest bit funny. It's an insult to my sense of humor.

You wanna't talk about her deplorable dress, I'm so there.

140 austin_blue  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:11:11pm

re: #134 jamesfirecat

I may just be an ostrich with my head in the sand, but I don't see any obvious racism in comparing a black person to a parrot the way I do in comparing one to a monkey...

Ding ding ding!

141 jamesfirecat  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:11:15pm

re: #123 PowerFlip

...more racist monkey pics?

[Link: maaadddog.files.wordpress.com...]

Dude did you miss my very first post?

142 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:11:21pm

re: #103 jaunte

Good comment from Nashville:

Very interesting and very good comment.

But honestly, I had to laugh out loud at this part:

I don't hear nearly the level of these ignorant actions going on in other southern states (even Mississippi).

Poor Mississippi. The butt of so many jokes.
And yet they managed to get themselves rebuilt while NOLA is still trying to figure out what hit 'em.

143 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:11:43pm

re: #133 HoosierHoops

You know it's coming.. Just when you think it's springtime in Indiana..Boom! Snow!

then Father Sun will cast his warmth on you, and it will Race Day before you know it and all's forgotten

144 simoom  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:11:57pm

FoxNews.com picked the story up:
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Out of about 50 comments so far, there are maybe six that think there is anything wrong with the e-mail. Most of the commenters instead take the racism and run with it (or one up it). For example:

Really? I've always thought she looked more "orangutanish".
Some of us love a little nookie, but it looks like BO loves a big old wookie. (sorry Chewbacca)
I've been saying the same thing for months, should I apologize?
Michelle is married to Curious George, I can't see why this would upset her.
You have to remember, Old Pre Civil War Southern Democrates didn't breed their slaves to be beautiful, but to be big and strong so that they could carry the bales of cotten. It's nice to see that the decendants of slavery are still loyal to their former owners.
Why isn't PETA up in arms. That's dissing Cheeta if you ask me. What's her name would have to have a makeover to look as good as Cheeta.
The Simian anti-defamation league called, and they're pi$$ed. They heard of the comparison between Michelle Obama and chimpanzees. They just want to point out that they don't hate whitey.
What a foole, everyone knows Tiger Woods is Cheeta.
I do not remember the chimp being that fat and that ugly.
Isn't having a Marxist President great? If anyone has a complaint, it should be the chimps. Making that comparison is actually being pretty darn kind to Michelle.
I've never said she looked like any thing outside the human species...but I am still not convinced she hasn't gone through gender reassignment.
Preposterous! The First Lady looks nothing like a chimpanzee. She does, however, greatly resemble Chewbacca.

In the past, when O'Reilly or Hannity needed some quick filler they would comment-mine DailyKos (or other liberal blogs) for outrageous comments they could paint the entire left with. 'Seems they should look in to cleaning up their own backyard before going down that road again.

145 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:12:04pm

re: #118 BryanS

Ahhh...just google then "Pat Oliphant november 16 2004". Multiple sources will confirm that was a comic posted in the Washington Post on that day.

It is an obnoxious cartoon about Condi Rice. I don't see how the memory of blatant racism towards her by the left could be denied or forgotten so soon.

Not to excuse it in the case of this thread pointing out obnoxious racism on the right. I don't see how anyone sending that email can send that without intending the racist sentiments.

Pet Oliphant is not only a racist, he's also a rancid anti-Semite.

146 Irenicum  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:12:51pm

Hey gang. I'm arriving late once again. Been busy uploading last night's show. All I can say about this email is that the sender is a fucking asshole. Hopefully every receiver of it told him directly to his face how disgusting he is. I fucking hate, hate, hate, racism. And that, my friends, is my official "Christian" response. This shit is beyond racism. It's the same mindset that dehumanizes anyone different. And we already know what that leads to according to the last century's track record. What a piece of shit that would feel free to send this bile.

147 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:14:05pm

re: #145 Alouette

and you get an upding for the creative use of the word "rancid"!

(either that or my snout is pollen-free again. Phew, i smell gamy buttocks roasting on a spit somewhere...)

148 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:14:28pm

re: #142 reine.de.tout

Very interesting and very good comment.

But honestly, I had to laugh out loud at this part:

I don't hear nearly the level of these ignorant actions going on in other southern states (even Mississippi).

Poor Mississippi. The butt of so many jokes.
And yet they managed to get themselves rebuilt while NOLA is still trying to figure out what hit 'em.

They managed to elect good leaders.

149 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:15:01pm

re: #143 albusteve

then Father Sun will cast his warmth on you, and it will Race Day before you know it and all's forgotten

I will be holding a Beer at the Track in May God Willing and needing ear plugs cause those cars are loud and very fast..

150 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:15:05pm

re: #124 austin_blue

I hang with a Lefty bunch and have never received a single e-mail that was in any way, shape, or form racist. Some snide e-mails about when she referred to GWB as her husband? Sure.

But racist? Pshaw. That's not our style, my man. There's a lot black and brown people in that "Reply to All" button. Are you fucking kidding?

I saw the nasty things drawn and written about condi, but like you - I didn't get them in e-mails.

I hang with a mixed group, politically - and have found that for most rational people, racism is definitely not the style.

151 BryanS  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:15:14pm

re: #127 marjoriemoon

There was an Aunt Jemima one too. I never saw any of those until after the Obama election, however, when they were presented as past examples.

The criticism of Condi, however, wasn't about her race or gender. You can look at liberal blogs and they may hate her, but they hate her because she's a Republican and very loyal to Bush. I never liked her politics either, but I have a lot of respect for her as a person.

They let their hatred bleed into extreme criticism that strayed into racism. I think this may be the aunt jamima themed Condi Rice cartoon you refer to:

[Link: mhking.mu.nu...]

This one by Danzinger published in the New York Times.

152 Cato the Elder  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:15:22pm

re: #95 Dark_Falcon

That never gets old.

153 Cato the Elder  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:15:55pm

re: #98 MandyManners

Please, show some proof that George Wallace was considered "right wing" at the steps of that school.

Wha?

154 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:16:09pm

re: #144 simoom

FoxNews.com picked the story up:
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Out of about 50 comments so far, there are maybe six that think there is anything wrong with the e-mail. Most of the commenters instead take the racism and run with it (or one up it). For example:

In the past, when O'Reilly or Hannity needed some quick filler they would comment-mine DailyKos (or other liberal blogs) for outrageous comments they could paint the entire left with. 'Seems they should look in to cleaning up their own backyard before going down that road again.

You can go to Free Republic, do a topic search on "Michelle Obama" and find a mother lode of ugly racist comments.

Now I have to go and wash my brain out with bleach.

155 Velvet Elvis  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:16:10pm

re: #123 PowerFlip

...more racist monkey pics?

[Link: maaadddog.files.wordpress.com...]

was that made to use as a counterexample?

156 Spockista  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:16:20pm

re: #28 MandyManners

Oh, for goodness' sake.

Of course he thinks it's okay.

This is 2010.

When I was a kid I thought we would be going to work in flying cars and war, starvation, poverty and inequality would be diminished by now.....

157 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:16:43pm

re: #118 BryanS

To call him a "cock-sucker" would be too soft.

158 avanti  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:16:55pm

re: #146 Irenicum

Hey gang. I'm arriving late once again. Been busy uploading last night's show. All I can say about this email is that the sender is a fucking asshole. Hopefully every receiver of it told him directly to his face how disgusting he is. I fucking hate, hate, hate, racism. And that, my friends, is my official "Christian" response. This shit is beyond racism. It's the same mindset that dehumanizes anyone different. And we already know what that leads to according to the last century's track record. What a piece of shit that would feel free to send this bile.


Most of the time when I express outrage over racist, Obama e-mails I recieve, I get a version of "Obama Lover" replies. I suspect they might use another word instead of Obama in private.

159 austin_blue  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:17:13pm

re: #150 reine.de.tout

I saw the nasty things drawn and written about condi, but like you - I didn't get them in e-mails.

I hang with a mixed group, politically - and have found that for most rational people, racism is definitely not the style.

Amen, mon petite cherie.

160 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:17:19pm

re: #144 simoom

FoxNews.com picked the story up:
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Out of about 50 comments so far, there are maybe six that think there is anything wrong with the e-mail. Most of the commenters instead take the racism and run with it (or one up it). For example:

In the past, when O'Reilly or Hannity needed some quick filler they would comment-mine DailyKos (or other liberal blogs) for outrageous comments they could paint the entire left with. 'Seems they should look in to cleaning up their own backyard before going down that road again.

agreed 100%

161 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:17:24pm

re: #123 PowerFlip

...more racist monkey pics?

[Link: maaadddog.files.wordpress.com...]

How utterly pathetic.

As if you don't understand the difference.

162 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:17:42pm

re: #147 Querent

and you get an upding for the creative use of the word "rancid"!

(either that or my snout is pollen-free again. Phew, i smell gamy buttocks roasting on a spit somewhere...)

I did not come up with that creative use of "rancid," that was Charles' thread title.

163 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:18:09pm

re: #160 reine.de.tout
and Simoom gets a Purple Heart for doing that SCUBA diving to bring us those bad crazy specimens

164 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:18:32pm

re: #156 Spockista

This is 2010.

When I was a kid I thought we would be going to work in flying cars and war, starvation, poverty and inequality would be diminished by now...

I don't understand.

165 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:19:08pm

re: #162 Alouette

I did not come up with that creative use of "rancid," that was Charles' thread title.

well take the upding anyway! i'm in a generous mood and the updings are just flying off my fingertips like the rain we've had this past week!

166 PowerFlip  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:19:22pm

re: #136 BryanS

First off, in my first post, I said the email was, among other things, totally wrong and morally bankrupt...

But it could be argued that in both pics, of the First Lady and Bush, it could be argued that the intended humour was not in the color of skin, but rather in the identical facial expressions of the compared side by side pics.

I think all the pictures are inappropriate. I think that Baker is a loser for sending the email, and I hope he reaps the full consequences.

I do not see how what he did make the "right" racist.

167 prairiefire  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:19:28pm

re: #158 avanti

I find it all really sad. I think First Ladies should be off limits anyway, but she is such a lovely person. People are blinded by hate.

168 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:19:31pm

re: #144 simoom

FoxNews.com picked the story up:
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Out of about 50 comments so far, there are maybe six that think there is anything wrong with the e-mail. Most of the commenters instead take the racism and run with it (or one up it). For example:

In the past, when O'Reilly or Hannity needed some quick filler they would comment-mine DailyKos (or other liberal blogs) for outrageous comments they could paint the entire left with. 'Seems they should look in to cleaning up their own backyard before going down that road again.

Vile Bad Craziness. I don't know what else to say.

169 Cato the Elder  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:19:44pm

re: #109 Alouette

Here are some routinely published errors that make me want to rip out the idiot editor's throat:

"tow the line"
"put through the ringer"
"tough road to hoe"
"pouring over an ancient text"

Do you want to come in on the freelance editing company I'm forming?

Glad to see you here. I was asking earlier about which Lizards live in Israel. Someone said you have people there.

I have a friend who made aliyah last year and is in trouble. If you think you might know someone who could help, my nick is blue.

170 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:19:50pm

re: #122 Racer X

That looks like faux bacon. You know, the TVP stuff. Anyway, it's just gross. If I'm going to pollute my arteries with fat, I'll just take the two donuts and call it a night.

171 laZardo  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:20:01pm

re: #144 simoom

In the past, when O'Reilly or Hannity needed some quick filler they would comment-mine DailyKos (or other liberal blogs) for outrageous comments they could paint the entire left with. 'Seems they should look in to cleaning up their own backyard before going down that road again.

It's actually quite easy to paint the entire right with those sort of comments, and the paint fits.

172 austin_blue  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:20:30pm

re: #164 MandyManners

I don't understand.

The more things change, the more they stay the same, Mandy.

The internal inertial of the American people is Legion.

173 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:20:59pm

re: #166 PowerFlip

I'm completely sick of people like you making excuses for this crap. Just go away.

174 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:21:17pm

re: #149 HoosierHoops

I will be holding a Beer at the Track in May God Willing and needing ear plugs cause those cars are loud and very fast..

I used to be friends with the flagman right at the end of the pit road where he flags them onto the track...knew a bunch of security guys, that's how I got 'in' with VIP lammies etc...that was my only experience down there, but it was a doozie...I'm lucky like that

175 jamesfirecat  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:21:17pm

re: #166 PowerFlip

First off, in my first post, I said the email was, among other things, totally wrong and morally bankrupt...

But it could be argued that in both pics, of the First Lady and Bush, it could be argued that the intended humour was not in the color of skin, but rather in the identical facial expressions of the compared side by side pics.

I think all the pictures are inappropriate. I think that Baker is a loser for sending the email, and I hope he reaps the full consequences.

I do not see how what he did make the "right" racist.

The problem is that the George Bush stuff is actually funny, and it goes well because he's named after a monkey.

Also its okay to make fun of white people by comparing them to monkeys.

Not so much black people. Not at all black people in fact.

176 laZardo  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:21:19pm

re: #172 austin_blue

The more things change, the more they stay the same, Mandy.

The internal inertial of the American people anonymous is Legion.

Because Rules 1 and 2 are for n00bs.

177 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:22:09pm

re: #169 Cato the Elder

Do you want to come in on the freelance editing company I'm forming?

Glad to see you here. I was asking earlier about which Lizards live in Israel. Someone said you have people there.

I have a friend who made aliyah last year and is in trouble. If you think you might know someone who could help, my nick is blue.

I don't live in Israel, my daughter does. I would be interested in an editing job, though. I'm working on a novel. It will probably never be finished, I've been writing and rewriting it for about 20 years. :)

178 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:22:10pm

Speaking of racism, I'm reposting this.


Next week, York University will once again open its halls and classrooms to “Israel Apartheid Week,” so-called. This year as every year, militants and activists will use the taxpayer-funded facilities of York to vilify the Jewish state.

Well, that’s free speech, isn’t it? Everybody gets to express his or her point of view, no matter how obnoxious, right?

No, not right. Not at York. At York, speech is free — better than free, subsidized– for anti-Israel haters. But for those who would defend Israel, York sets very different rules.

In advance of York’s annual hate-Israel week, the campus group Christians United for Israel applied to use university space to host a program of pro-Israel speakers.

The university replied that this program could only proceed on certain conditions.

It insisted on heavy security, including both campus and Toronto police — all of those costs to be paid by the program organizers. The organizers would also have to provide an advance list of all program attendees and advance summaries of all the speeches. No advertising for the program would be permitted — not on the York campus, not on any of the other campuses participating by remote video.

These are radically different and much harsher terms than anything required from the hate-Israel program. The hate-Israel program is not required to pay for its own security. It is free to advertise. Its speakers are not pre-screened by the university

.

SNIP

179 BryanS  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:22:36pm

re: #145 Alouette

Pet Oliphant is not only a racist, he's also a rancid anti-Semite.

Thanx for the link...just horrible. How can this guy be allowed to keep publishing?

180 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:22:55pm

re: #147 Querent

and you get an upding for the creative use of the word "rancid"!

(either that or my snout is pollen-free again. Phew, i smell gamy buttocks roasting on a spit somewhere...)

I haven't got the charcoal on yet. I wait till a troll actually gets brained before I light the fire.

181 jamesfirecat  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:22:57pm

re: #166 PowerFlip

First off, in my first post, I said the email was, among other things, totally wrong and morally bankrupt...

But it could be argued that in both pics, of the First Lady and Bush, it could be argued that the intended humour was not in the color of skin, but rather in the identical facial expressions of the compared side by side pics.

I think all the pictures are inappropriate. I think that Baker is a loser for sending the email, and I hope he reaps the full consequences.

I do not see how what he did make the "right" racist.

By the way just to drive the point home.

This doesn't make the right racist.

It does make this member of the right racist however.

182 What, me worry?  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:22:57pm

re: #151 BryanS

They let their hatred bleed into extreme criticism that strayed into racism. I think this may be the aunt jamima themed Condi Rice cartoon you refer to:

[Link: mhking.mu.nu...]

This one by Danzinger published in the New York Times.

No, they didn't really. Like I say, google some of the liberal blogs and you won't see a lot of racism about her. I don't think you'd see either of those cartoons there.

183 Interesting Times  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:23:10pm

re: #144 simoom

I'm offended I have to share the same planet with those people.

184 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:23:24pm

re: #166 PowerFlip

First off, in my first post, I said the email was, among other things, totally wrong and morally bankrupt...

But it could be argued that in both pics, of the First Lady and Bush, it could be argued that the intended humour was not in the color of skin, but rather in the identical facial expressions of the compared side by side pics.

I think all the pictures are inappropriate. I think that Baker is a loser for sending the email, and I hope he reaps the full consequences.

I do not see how what he did make the "right" racist.

The only thing that can be "argued" is that it was a racist comment on the email. What the fuck do you think the Tarzan and Jane "story" was in the email, so we all thought the joke was took place in France?

Please, there is no one here tonight that is so stupid to be able to accept your analyst as anything but fucked up.

185 Velvet Elvis  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:23:32pm

re: #142 reine.de.tout

Very interesting and very good comment.

But honestly, I had to laugh out loud at this part:

I don't hear nearly the level of these ignorant actions going on in other southern states (even Mississippi).

Poor Mississippi. The butt of so many jokes.
And yet they managed to get themselves rebuilt while NOLA is still trying to figure out what hit 'em.

There is no comparing the degree of damage between the two areas, not to mention the socio-economic status of the victims in each case. Wiping out some beach front property in Bulxi isn't the same as the outright diaspora caused by the destruction of the lower 9th ward.

186 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:23:45pm

As a staunch Darwinist (ahem), it comes across to me as particularly dumbassed to compare any human to a chimpanzee as though that's some sort of stinging insult. Oh my, there's a physical resemblance between this guy and his genetically closest non-human relative. What a thigh-zinger.

Ever seen a chimpanzee without hair? This one has alopecia:
[Link: www.flickr.com...]

187 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:24:07pm

I have no apologetics for the righties who perpetrate this crap anymore. They are just keeping it up and keeping it up. In a lot of cases they get busted, give the 'oh...sorry, didn't think (fill in blank)....', then out of nowhere they then go down the 'dog whistle' path, or just completely say something race baiting or just overtly racist. These fools should realize how stupid they make all of us on the right look. Yet they keep doing it over and over and over.

*washes hands*

188 Velvet Elvis  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:24:27pm

re: #148 MandyManners

They managed to elect good leaders.

They managed to be white.

189 Decatur Deb  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:24:42pm

re: #184 Walter L. Newton

He's dead, Jim.

190 Spockista  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:25:00pm

re: #164 MandyManners

I don't understand.

In other words, I once had hopes that a "joke" like that would not exist at this point in time.

I have seen this joke or at least those pix before, they were on Nazi/white nationalist sites.

To still see this kind of ugliness in the mainstream business world is discouraging.

191 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:25:17pm

re: #174 albusteve

I used to be friends with the flagman right at the end of the pit road where he flags them onto the track...knew a bunch of security guys, that's how I got 'in' with VIP lammies etc...that was my only experience down there, but it was a doozie...I'm lucky like that

There may nothing more exciting than race day at the Indy 500...
This is my last year here..It should be a blast

192 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:25:21pm

re: #189 Decatur Deb

He's dead, Jim.

My name is not Jim. Did you reply to the wrong comment?

193 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:25:41pm

re: #179 BryanS

Thanx for the link...just horrible. How can this guy be allowed to keep publishing?

Free enterprise.

Should the government regulate his profession?

194 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:25:46pm

I've learned to my great dismay that there is absolutely nothing disgusting and vile enough that there won't be people who make excuses for it.

195 Jerk  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:26:09pm

The half-billion dollar racist joke, ladies and gentlemen.

196 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:26:11pm

re: #178 MandyManners

Speaking of racism, I'm reposting this.

Next week, York University will once again open its halls and classrooms to “Israel Apartheid Week,” so-called. This year as every year, militants and activists will use the taxpayer-funded facilities of York to vilify the Jewish state.

SNIP

Shhh, don't upset the faculty Dhimmis. They don't understand that after Israel, they're next on the target list.

197 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:26:38pm

re: #123 PowerFlip

You don't get it. It wasn't racial with Bush - comparing him with a chimp was a dig at the man's intelligence. Yes, it was mean and in poor taste. It was not, however, intended as racial insult.

198 Decatur Deb  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:26:39pm

re: #192 Walter L. Newton

No. That's the Star Trek allusion. Charles returned your guy to sender.

199 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:26:40pm

re: #187 Oh no...Sand People!

I have no apologetics for the righties who perpetrate this crap anymore. They are just keeping it up and keeping it up. In a lot of cases they get busted, give the 'oh...sorry, didn't think (fill in blank)...', then out of nowhere they then go down the 'dog whistle' path, or just completely say something race baiting or just overtly racist. These fools should realize how stupid they make all of us on the right look. Yet they keep doing it over and over and over.

*washes hands*

don't be on the right...or left or however you need to distinguish yourself

200 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:27:14pm

re: #194 Charles

I've learned to my great dismay that there is absolutely nothing disgusting and vile enough that there won't be people who make excuses for it.

Polanski didn't know she was 13 when he drugged her!
////

201 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:27:17pm

re: #188 Conservative Moonbat

They managed to be white.

That's racist.

202 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:27:28pm

re: #194 Charles

I've learned to my great dismay that there is absolutely nothing disgusting and vile enough that there won't be people who make excuses for it.

reminding me of my second wife...on this we argree

203 austin_blue  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:27:32pm

re: #166 PowerFlip

First off, in my first post, I said the email was, among other things, totally wrong and morally bankrupt...

But it could be argued that in both pics, of the First Lady and Bush, it could be argued that the intended humour was not in the color of skin, but rather in the identical facial expressions of the compared side by side pics.

I think all the pictures are inappropriate. I think that Baker is a loser for sending the email, and I hope he reaps the full consequences.

I do not see how what he did make the "right" racist.

Umm, let's see...Obama is a non-American secret Muslim half breed who has a secret plan to turn the US into a Socialist country.

(((Oh, and did I mention he has black blood coursing through his veins? The same black blood that brought us the scourge of crack cocaine and miscegination? I won't say that loud of course, but that's what we're all thinking, isn't it?)))

204 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:28:19pm

re: #196 Dark_Falcon

Shhh, don't upset the faculty Dhimmis. They don't understand that after Israel, they're next on the target list.

Scorpion.

205 avanti  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:28:36pm

re: #196 Dark_Falcon

Shhh, don't upset the faculty Dhimmis. They don't understand that after Israel, they're next on the target list.

I think the fact that it was banned this year indcates otherwise.

York.

206 Cato the Elder  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:28:41pm

re: #159 austin_blue

Amen, mon ma petite cherie.

FTFY.

207 austin_blue  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:28:47pm

re: #173 Charles

I'm completely sick of people like you making excuses for this crap. Just go away.

Thank you very much. That one was fringe.

208 BryanS  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:28:49pm

re: #193 MandyManners

Free enterprise.

Should the government regulate his profession?

Ohh, don't get me wrong. Assholes have a constitutional right to speak their assholery. But the NY Times shouldn't serve as it's microphone. I should better state my question by asking how the NY Times or any major newspaper could continue publishing Oliphant.

209 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:29:02pm

re: #197 eclectic infidel

You don't get it. It wasn't racial with Bush - comparing him with a chimp was a dig at the man's intelligence. Yes, it was mean and in poor taste. It was not, however, intended as racial insult.

These people DO get it. And yes, they understand this is a blatant case of racism.

They think they can get away with these diversions, and trick you into believing there's nothing wrong. They think you're stupid.

I've completely had it with this crap.

210 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:29:33pm

re: #199 albusteve

don't be on the right...or left or however you need to distinguish yourself

I still have some fiscal ideals that would, in my limited view of government opinion, come from the right. If only I could get the (R)'s on that track...

211 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:29:35pm

re: #192 Walter L. Newton

My name is not Jim. Did you reply to the wrong comment?

He meant that Power Flip has been banned. The troll having been clubbed, I'll go light the charcoal. Querent will be welcomed back with a troll roast after all. Gamey Buttocks will be ready in 28 minutes.

212 austin_blue  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:29:41pm

re: #206 Cato the Elder

FTFY.

Ack! My cajun french has gone into the toilet since I left N'Awlins.

213 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:29:58pm

re: #208 BryanS

Ohh, don't get me wrong. Assholes have a constitutional right to speak their assholery. But the NY Times shouldn't serve as it's microphone. I should better state my question by asking how the NY Times or any major newspaper could continue publishing Oliphant.

He criticizes Israel.

214 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:30:46pm

re: #211 Dark_Falcon

He meant that Power Flip has been banned. The troll having been clubbed, I'll go light the charcoal. Querent will be welcomed back with a troll roast after all. Gamey Buttocks will be ready in 28 minutes.

Gee, i just KNEW there was a reason for me to bake those cupcakes yesterday...!!

(cupcakes and up-dings, come an' get 'em!)

215 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:31:12pm

re: #185 Conservative Moonbat

There is no comparing the degree of damage between the two areas, not to mention the socio-economic status of the victims in each case. Wiping out some beach front property in Bulxi isn't the same as the outright diaspora caused by the destruction of the lower 9th ward.

Oh, my.
Don't even get me started on this.
It wasn't just beachfront property owned by the wealthy in Biloxi that was wiped out.

It was also the neighborhoods where the hotel waiters and maids and staff live. Not exactly your upper socio-economic folks.

I stood on a balcony and smoked cigarettes with the people working for the La. Recovery Authority, which had rules and requirements that were so confusing and detailed beyond belief, that the money could not even be disbursed until a full year or more AFTER Mississippi had gotten recovery money to it's citizens.

Lower 9th ward was, is, a unique neighborhood and its loss is an awful thing. But our State and the NOLA city gov't couldn't quit squabbling about things long enough to actually, you know, get something done.

Do not even get into this with me.

216 laZardo  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:31:19pm

re: #210 Oh no...Sand People!

There's a difference between conservatism and (sane) libertarianism.

217 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:31:35pm

re: #205 avanti

I think the fact that it was banned this year indcates otherwise.

York.

That does change things. I therefore congratulate those who banned the event for showing the courage needed of free people.

218 BryanS  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:31:42pm

re: #202 albusteve

reminding me of my second wife...on this we argree

argree
verb
To agree in a disagreeable or argumentative way.
Usage : "...reminding me of my second wife...on this we argree"

219 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:32:17pm

re: #201 MandyManners

That's racist.

And, well, it's just incorrect.

220 austin_blue  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:32:48pm

re: #179 BryanS

Thanx for the link...just horrible. How can this guy be allowed to keep publishing?

Because of the First Amendment, you wiper of other people's bottoms.

221 swamprat  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:33:17pm

It was BS when they did this to Condi Rice, and it is BS when they do it to the First Lady.

222 Cato the Elder  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:33:20pm

re: #177 Alouette

I don't live in Israel, my daughter does. I would be interested in an editing job, though. I'm working on a novel. It will probably never be finished, I've been writing and rewriting it for about 20 years. :)

I am a kick-ass editor (you may have noticed), and would be happy to give you the Lizard special rate if you're ever interested.

Would your daughter know people who could cut through the red tape to help someone with a disability and a special-needs child?

223 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:33:56pm

re: #220 austin_blue

Because of the First Amendment, you wiper of other people's bottoms.

upding for that Monty Python-worthy quip!

224 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:34:06pm

re: #210 Oh no...Sand People!

I still have some fiscal ideals that would, in my limited view of government opinion, come from the right. If only I could get the (R)'s on that track...

so do I, but I would rather eat lint than identify with any political party

225 Spockista  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:34:06pm

re: #220 austin_blue

Because of the First Amendment, you wiper of other people's bottoms.

It's also our First Amendment rights to speak out against it.

226 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:35:01pm

re: #219 reine.de.tout

And, well, it's just incorrect.

Oh, you know it.

227 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:35:10pm

re: #224 albusteve

so do I, but I would rather eat lint than identify with any political party

upding for the lint -- it's dietary fiber!

228 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:35:11pm

re: #218 BryanS

argree
verb
To agree in a disagreeable or argumentative way.
Usage : "...reminding me of my second wife...on this we argree"

pirate talk...just argreeing with the Captain...avast!

229 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:35:26pm

re: #221 swamprat

It was BS when they did this to Condi Rice, and it is BS when they do it to the First Lady.

And Colin Powell...but who is counting, and well...ANYTIME (like you are pointing out)!

I so hate the, "well, they did it too when _______..." argument.

230 Cato the Elder  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:35:36pm

re: #184 Walter L. Newton

The only thing that can be "argued" is that it was a racist comment on the email. What the fuck do you think the Tarzan and Jane "story" was in the email, so we all thought the joke was took place in France?

Please, there is no one here tonight that is so stupid to be able to accept your analyst as anything but fucked up.

I think his analyst quit in despair. ;^)

231 Velvet Elvis  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:35:55pm

re: #201 MandyManners

That's racist.

I'm not going to have this conversation because I've had just enough beer that I'd get downdinged all to hell.

232 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:36:38pm

re: #224 albusteve

I have meant to change to (I) for a while now...just not on my high priority list...but I think this week will be a good one.

233 Bagua  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:37:06pm

Attacking the First Lady is especially offensive.

234 BryanS  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:37:32pm

re: #213 MandyManners

He criticizes Israel.


As pointed out in Alouette's post--seems Oliphant does more than just criticize Israel.


re: #145 Alouette

Pet Oliphant is not only a racist, he's also a rancid anti-Semite.

235 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:38:17pm

re: #221 swamprat

It was BS when they did this to Condi Rice, and it is BS when they do it to the First Lady.

Outrage doesn't matter when a Conservative is the target.

236 What, me worry?  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:38:18pm

re: #221 swamprat

It was BS when they did this to Condi Rice, and it is BS when they do it to the First Lady.

Care to compare the number of times it's happened to the First Lady in the last year to how many times it happened to Condi in 8 years? Or the sheer vile we see about her on rightwing sites?

Racism in both regards, yes, but nothing near to compare to Michelle Obama.

237 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:38:43pm

re: #221 swamprat

It was BS when they did this to Condi Rice, and it is BS when they do it to the First Lady.

When I think of Condi Rice and Michelle Obama (particularly at the same time), the only chimpanzees that enter into the thought are the ones that have been trained to keep the wine glasses filled, monitor the jacuzzi's temperature, and not answer the door.

238 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:38:43pm

re: #231 Conservative Moonbat

I'm not going to have this conversation because I've had just enough beer that I'd get downdinged all to hell.

You made a most incorrect assumption that I was dissing the PEOPLE of New Orleans. You then made a most incorrect assumption that I must be doing that because they were mostly black, and the people in Mississippi were mostly white.

You made all sorts of incorrect assumptions, and obviously have very little knowledge of what ACTUALLY happened, other than what Geraldo reported.

239 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:39:05pm

re: #232 Oh no...Sand People!

I have meant to change to (I) for a while now...just not on my high priority list...but I think this week will be a good one.

I don't 'join' any group, with the exception of the NRA, and even so they have their nutballs, but I like their magazine...it's all about me

240 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:39:20pm

re: #231 Conservative Moonbat

I'm not going to have this conversation because I've had just enough beer that I'd get downdinged all to hell.

Sit back!

241 austin_blue  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:40:24pm

re: #194 Charles

I've learned to my great dismay that there is absolutely nothing disgusting and vile enough that there won't be people who make excuses for it.

Odd, isn't it? Oliphant gigs Israel for perhaps (in his opinion) overreaching, and he's a raving anti-Semite. A right wing blogger posts a comparison of the First Lady with a chimp (who Black folk were said no better to be in this country for 200 years) and he gets defenders.

There is middle ground, here, if everyone would take a deep breath. The majority of humans can come to some reasonable consensus, if they are just given the facts unfiltered by spin. Sadly, most people won't do the heavy lifting required to get the facts. It's a problem on both sides, but at least the "Mainstream Media" doesn't outright lie.

242 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:40:29pm

re: #239 albusteve

I don't 'join' any group, with the exception of the NRA, and even so they have their nutballs, but I like their magazine...it's all about me

Well, the individual trumps the 'group'. Without the individual's rights, the group couldn't exist.

243 BryanS  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:40:32pm

re: #220 austin_blue

Because of the First Amendment, you wiper of other people's bottoms.

Very dignified response there. I clarified my response here

I was in no way intending he doesn't have a first amendment right to speak. Glad to see you support Pat Oliphant's racism and anti-semitism, you tool.

244 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:40:49pm

re: #238 reine.de.tout

You made a most incorrect assumption that I was dissing the PEOPLE of New Orleans. You then made a most incorrect assumption that I must be doing that because they were mostly black, and the people in Mississippi were mostly white.

You made all sorts of incorrect assumptions, and obviously have very little knowledge of what ACTUALLY happened, other than what Geraldo reported.

like Capones Treasure?...that illustrious Heraldo?

245 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:40:54pm

re: #231 Conservative Moonbat

Here:
Dog Malfunction

Youtube Video
246 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:42:33pm

this is wierd -- last upding i've tried to make has had the little spiral circling for a good 20 comments' worth of load time. And yet i can still refresh comments.

Charles ?? Any insight?

247 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:43:08pm

re: #242 Oh no...Sand People!

Well, the individual trumps the 'group'. Without the individual's rights, the group couldn't exist.

groups of politically oriented voters especially turn me off...then come churches, followed by Little League...
jus kidding

248 austin_blue  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:43:10pm

re: #213 MandyManners

He criticizes Israel.

The NT Times has almost never published Oliphant, except occasionally on its Sunday compilation page.

249 Cato the Elder  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:43:16pm

re: #246 Querent

Get a Mac.

250 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:43:38pm

re: #243 BryanS

If you think for one God Damn Minute that Austin_Blue supports shit like that, then you're crazy. I assure you he does not.

251 Irenicum  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:43:46pm

re: #246 Querent

Too many people busy on the thread? What a problem!

252 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:43:49pm

re: #244 albusteve

like Capones Treasure?...that illustrious Heraldo?

Yep.
"They've resorted to cannibalism!" Geraldo.
sheesh.
Those people, those people sitting in the dome and at the convention center waiting for the mayor to do something, get moving on getting them out of there, meanwhile he's in DALLAS TX buying a new fancy home for his family so they could get outta Dodge . . .

Sorry, Steve.
This gets me riled.
I was here, on the ground, watching and seeing exactly what happened, and people insist on coming along and telling me I don't know what the hell I'm talking about, or they make up something they think I must have meant.

Just pisses me off.

253 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:44:09pm

re: #246 Querent

this is wierd -- last upding i've tried to make has had the little spiral circling for a good 20 comments' worth of load time. And yet i can still refresh comments.

Charles ?? Any insight?

Refresh.

254 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:44:42pm

re: #249 Cato the Elder

Get a Mac.

good grief....not you too?

255 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:45:08pm

re: #254 albusteve

good grief...not you too?

heheh.
And me too.
As of Christmas.

256 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:45:15pm

Cannibalism?

Oh, dear.

257 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:45:53pm

re: #249 Cato the Elder

Get a Mac.


(bitch mode)
Thanks, Cato, that's really helpful. Maybe you can give me a nice lead on a job that'll pay me enough to be able to buy one.
(/bitch mode)

258 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:45:53pm

Good night.

259 Irenicum  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:45:58pm

re: #255 reine.de.tout

Someday. Just not today. Still too expensive.

260 Velvet Elvis  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:45:59pm

re: #238 reine.de.tout

You made a most incorrect assumption that I was dissing the PEOPLE of New Orleans. You then made a most incorrect assumption that I must be doing that because they were mostly black, and the people in Mississippi were mostly white.

You made all sorts of incorrect assumptions, and obviously have very little knowledge of what ACTUALLY happened, other than what Geraldo reported.

I apologize.

I meant to make no personal assertions.

I feel strongly that issues of race and class contribute strongly to NOLA's lack of recovery compared to other areas. We can get into that later.

261 jamesfirecat  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:46:06pm

re: #243 BryanS

Very dignified response there. I clarified my response here

I was in no way intending he doesn't have a first amendment right to speak. Glad to see you support Pat Oliphant's racism and anti-semitism, you tool.

Can't he support his right to say it without supporting what is being said?

262 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:46:11pm

re: #243 BryanS

Very dignified response there. I clarified my response here

I was in no way intending he doesn't have a first amendment right to speak. Glad to see you support Pat Oliphant's racism and anti-semitism, you tool.

tool?....AB is a hammer if that's what you mean

263 Decatur Deb  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:47:05pm

Late in CST. 'Nite, all.

264 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:47:10pm

re: #256 SanFranciscoZionist

Cannibalism?

Oh, dear.

There was no cannibalism!
Some reporters were "reporting" reports of it.
Just stupid.

265 Irenicum  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:47:50pm

re: #258 MandyManners

Nite Mandy. Be well.

266 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:48:03pm

re: #253 reine.de.tout

Refresh.

thanks, reine, that seems to have worked.
(funny, last time it did that, i got dropped offline...)

267 jamesfirecat  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:48:24pm

re: #264 reine.de.tout

There was no cannibalism!
Some reporters were "reporting" reports of it.
Just stupid.

Cannibalism no longer occurs in the British Navy. And when I say "no longer occurs," I mean, of course, that there is a certain amount of it. But we definitely have the problem under control.

268 BryanS  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:48:27pm

re: #261 jamesfirecat

Can't he support his right to say it without supporting what is being said?


Could I question whether Oliphant be allowed to publish in major newspapers without being branded as opposed to the first amendment?

269 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:48:32pm

re: #247 albusteve

groups of politically oriented voters especially turn me off...then come churches, followed by Little League...
jus kidding

Now Little League doesn't bother me so much...but the parents at Little League

South Park Video
gravy.
270 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:48:37pm

re: #260 Conservative Moonbat

I apologize.

I meant to make no personal assertions.

I feel strongly that issues of race and class contribute strongly to NOLA's lack of recovery compared to other areas. We can get into that later.

Nope.
Louisiana's (and NOLA's) lack of leadership during that period directly created conditions where recovery was delayed or rendered impossible.
That's the bottom line.

271 BryanS  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:48:57pm

re: #267 jamesfirecat

Cannibalism no longer occurs in the British Navy. And when I say "no longer occurs," I mean, of course, that there is a certain amount of it. But we definitely have the problem under control.

lol...thank goodness for that.

272 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:48:57pm

Well, night all.

273 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:49:03pm

The right wing blogosphere is already gearing up to deny deny deny that this has anything to do with them, and point fingers at the left.

The usual.

274 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:49:31pm

re: #264 reine.de.tout

There was no cannibalism!
Some reporters were "reporting" reports of it.
Just stupid.

I missed those reports. I'm pleased to have missed those reports!

//Of course, there's always those missing 5,000 guys McKinney was talking about.

275 Gus  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:49:44pm

re: #273 Charles

The right wing blogosphere is already gearing up to deny deny deny that this has anything to do with them, and point fingers at the left.

The usual.

Instapundit defends Walter Baker in 3, 2, 1...

276 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:49:48pm

re: #273 Charles

The right wing blogosphere is already gearing up to deny deny deny that this has anything to do with them, and point fingers at the left.

The usual.

sigh...

277 Spockista  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:49:55pm

re: #257 Querent

(bitch mode)
Thanks, Cato, that's really helpful. Maybe you can give me a nice lead on a job that'll pay me enough to be able to buy one.
(/bitch mode)

I has a Mac :-)

278 Irenicum  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:50:18pm

re: #267 jamesfirecat

Getting to be an officer can be a bit problematic though. It can cost you an arm and a leg.

279 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:51:05pm

re: #273 Charles

The right wing blogosphere is already gearing up to deny deny deny that this has anything to do with them, and point fingers at the left.

The usual.

Bunch of shitheads. That's the only description the fits people who excuse that.

280 swamprat  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:51:30pm

re: #278 Irenicum

Getting to be an officer can be a bit problematic though. It can cost you an arm and a leg.


The eatings will continue until morale improves.

281 Irenicum  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:51:52pm

re: #273 Charles

Shocked I tells ya. Shocked!
//// (as if even necessary)

282 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:51:53pm

re: #252 reine.de.tout

Yep.
"They've resorted to cannibalism!" Geraldo.
sheesh.
Those people, those people sitting in the dome and at the convention center waiting for the mayor to do something, get moving on getting them out of there, meanwhile he's in DALLAS TX buying a new fancy home for his family so they could get outta Dodge . . .

Sorry, Steve.
This gets me riled.
I was here, on the ground, watching and seeing exactly what happened, and people insist on coming along and telling me I don't know what the hell I'm talking about, or they make up something they think I must have meant.

Just pisses me off.

I was in rad tech school in Benton Harbor MI...I sat up all night waiting to see where Katrina would hit...talking off and on with my buddies in Baton Rouge and another in Gulf Shores...I about shit when it slammed into NO...whatever...then followed all the stuff after the fact...we know what went down...pay no attention, or at least try

283 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:52:19pm

re: #280 swamprat

The eatings will continue until morale improves.

speaking of which, how's that spit-roasted troll coming??

284 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:52:56pm

re: #255 reine.de.tout

heheh.
And me too.
As of Christmas.

net aliens

285 Cato the Elder  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:53:26pm

Immortal Moments in American Literature, Episode LIV:

From "God Bless You, Mr. Rosewater," by Kurt Vonnegut:

[Eliot Rosewater, to his father, Sen. Rosewater] "I think it's terrible the way people don't share things in this country. The least a government could do, it seems to me, is to divide things up fairly among the babies. There's plenty for everybody in this country, if we'd only share more."

[Sen. Rosewater] "And just what do you think that would do to incentive?"

"You mean fright about not getting enough to eat, about not being able to pay the doctor, about not being able to give your family nice clothes, a safe, cheerful, comfortable place to live, a decent education, and a few good times? You mean shame about not knowing where the Money River is?"

"The what?"

"The Money River, where the wealth of the nation flows. We were born on the banks of it. We can slurp from that mighty river to our hearts' content. And we even take slurping lessons, so we can slurp more efficiently."

"Slurping lessons?"

"From lawyers! From tax consultants! We're born close enough to the river to drown ourselves and the next ten generations in wealth, simply using dippers and buckets. But we still hire the experts to teach us the use of aqueducts, dams, reservoirs, siphons, bucket brigades, and the Archimedes' screw. And our teachers in turn become rich, and their children become buyers of lessons in slurping."

"It's still possible for an American to make a fortune on his own."

"Sure—provided somebody tells him when he's young enough that there is a Money River, that there's nothing fair about it, that he had damn well better forget about hard work and the merit system and honesty and all that crap, and get to where the river is. 'Go where the rich and powerful are,' I'd tell him, 'and learn their ways. They can be flattered and they can be scared. Please them enormously or scare them enormously, and one moonless night they will put their fingers to their lips, warning you not to make a sound. And they will lead you through the dark to the widest, deepest river of wealth ever known to man. You'll be shown your place on the riverbank, and handed a bucket all your own. Slurp as much as you want, but try to keep the racket of your slurping down. A poor man might hear.'"

286 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:53:52pm

re: #283 Querent

speaking of which, how's that spit-roasted troll coming??

Ready to eat. Here's your portion. (slides plate down to Querant)

287 Irenicum  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:54:19pm

re: #280 swamprat

Yeah, keep it up with your biting commentary dontcha!

288 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:55:55pm

re: #285 Cato the Elder

Very well written. It should be taken with a grain of salt, but Vonnegut did very well with that exchange.

289 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:56:01pm

re: #286 Dark_Falcon
yum!

290 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:56:02pm

re: #256 SanFranciscoZionist

Cannibalism?

Oh, dear.

Heraldo had the famed 'I Ate My Neighbor' episode...ratings went off the scale and he bought an island in the Caribbean as a result...this is America

291 swamprat  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:56:03pm

re: #287 Irenicum
It gives the thread spice.

292 austin_blue  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:56:09pm

re: #243 BryanS

Very dignified response there. I clarified my response here

I was in no way intending he doesn't have a first amendment right to speak. Glad to see you support Pat Oliphant's racism and anti-semitism, you tool.

Pulling one cartoon out of his ouevre and calling him a raving anti-Semite is childish. He has been an equal opportunity shit slinger, hitting the Palis *at least* as much as the Israelis, if not more. But to claim that the Israelis are as pure as the driven snow is also childish. They're human. They fuck up, too. But their fuck-ups are generally more palatable to me because Israelis aren't terrorists. They really are trying to defend their homeland as best they can.

Major Props.

That doesn't mean they can't be called on the carpet for their fuck ups. And that doesn't make any one who talks about it an anti-semite.

An Example:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Oh, and by the way, I have a very nice tool, thank you. Fancy that. You never know who'll get one. And it's probably not a Snap-On, like yours.

La di dah!

293 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:56:24pm

re: #287 Irenicum

Yeah, keep it up with your biting commentary dontcha!


Pun War!

Just don't bite off more than you can chew...

294 Irenicum  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:57:05pm

Trolls with a hint of cinnamon are to die for! It adds just a little spice to my rack.

295 Irenicum  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:57:23pm

re: #293 Querent

Gnaw problem!

296 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:57:42pm

re: #292 austin_blue
upding to Austin for the Snap-On snark, and if i'd been drinking, you'd owe me a new monitor...

297 laZardo  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:57:55pm

re: #285 Cato the Elder

Oh, that's where the nickname came from.

298 austin_blue  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:58:30pm

re: #211 Dark_Falcon

He meant that Power Flip has been banned. The troll having been clubbed, I'll go light the charcoal. Querent will be welcomed back with a troll roast after all. Gamey Buttocks will be ready in 28 minutes.

It's been 26 minutes, can I have the backstraps rare? I've got sauce and sides!

299 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:58:35pm

re: #294 Irenicum
that's okay, we don't need to know about your rack...

300 swamprat  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:58:36pm

I've gut a haunch this is going to get ugly.

301 Irenicum  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:58:39pm

re: #291 swamprat

Cummin get it!

302 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:59:01pm

re: #269 Oh no...Sand People!

Now Little League doesn't bother me so much...but the parents at Little League [Link: www.southparkstudios.com...] gravy.

uh oh...people are crazy...my LL experience was in the early to mid 60's

303 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:59:10pm

re: #301 Irenicum

Cummin get it!


that's CUMIN, right?

304 jamesfirecat  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:59:28pm

re: #300 swamprat

I've gut a haunch this is going to get ugly.

I'm sure you'll keep us abreast of matters as they develop.

305 Irenicum  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:59:31pm

re: #299 Querent

Oh, that comment was a stretch!

306 austin_blue  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 9:59:33pm

re: #296 Querent

upding to Austin for the Snap-On snark, and if i'd been drinking, you'd owe me a new monitor...

((Pulls forelock.))

307 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:00:00pm

juicy troll drumsticks... lousy puns... gawd i've missed my LGF...

308 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:00:11pm

re: #267 jamesfirecat

Cannibalism no longer occurs in the British Navy. And when I say "no longer occurs," I mean, of course, that there is a certain amount of it. But we definitely have the problem under control.

You're so funny!
You were aggravating there for awhile, but lately I feel all warm and fuzzy and maternal toward you.
You're coming along nicely.

309 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:00:42pm

re: #305 Irenicum
don't sprain anything. Have a cupcake.

310 Irenicum  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:01:10pm

re: #303 Querent

Damn. You wood have to point that out woodn't you? (I'm so bad)

311 Cato the Elder  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:01:43pm

re: #288 Dark_Falcon

Very well written. It should be taken with a grain of salt, but Vonnegut did very well with that exchange.

Magno cum grano salis, of course. But he has a point.

That irascible old bastard was - is - one of my American heroes. A WWII vet and a humorist in the great satirical tradition of Mark Twain and my homeboy, H.L. Mencken. I once heard him speak at Hopkins University. During Gulf War I. He riffed on the ridiculous new fashion of top commanders wearing camo battle fatigues at press conferences, instead of their dress blues or greens.

"General Schwarzkopf, now, Stormin' Norman. His uniform looks like a western omelet. How can you take a general seriously whose uniform looks like a western omelet?"

312 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:01:43pm

re: #308 reine.de.tout

You're so funny!
You were aggravating there for awhile, but lately I feel all warm and fuzzy and maternal toward you.
You're coming along nicely.


i thought i smelled a fast-growing hatchling there.
if he's learned not to taunt Mandy a second time, he's definately fit for survival.

313 Irenicum  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:02:25pm

re: #304 jamesfirecat

You're such a boob for saying that!

314 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:02:29pm

re: #298 austin_blue

It's been 26 minutes, can I have the backstraps rare? I've got sauce and sides!

Here you go! (slides the plate down to Austin) Pass me one of Querants cupcakes, won't you?

315 freetoken  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:02:54pm

Fox News is on a roll tonight... They posted the AP story titled: Alabama Black Caucus Wants Education Secretary to Cancel Appearance at Confederate Named School

Only 6 comments so far, 5 of which would fit the Fox viewer stereotype to a T.

316 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:03:05pm

re: #314 Dark_Falcon
cupcakes by the dozen... with Lizard Green frosting of course.

317 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:04:02pm

re: #311 Cato the Elder

Magno cum grano salis, of course. But he has a point.

That irascible old bastard was - is - one of my American heroes. A WWII vet and a humorist in the great satirical tradition of Mark Twain and my homeboy, H.L. Mencken. I once heard him speak at Hopkins University. During Gulf War I. He riffed on the ridiculous new fashion of top commanders wearing camo battle fatigues at press conferences, instead of their dress blues or greens.

"General Schwarzkopf, now, Stormin' Norman. His uniform looks like a western omelet. How can you take a general seriously whose uniform looks like a western omelet?"

Yes, he had a real way with words and though always biting, he was also very fun and funny to read. Truly a great writer, RIP.

318 Cato the Elder  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:04:21pm

re: #292 austin_blue

Downding for reviving the "Liberty" canard. Or did you not mean to say that the Israelis knew it was our ship?

'Cause that's the anti-Semitic myth part.

319 Irenicum  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:04:25pm

re: #315 freetoken

Surprised am I? Not. Tonight's tribute to Yoda.

320 jamesfirecat  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:04:25pm

re: #311 Cato the Elder

Magno cum grano salis, of course. But he has a point.

That irascible old bastard was - is - one of my American heroes. A WWII vet and a humorist in the great satirical tradition of Mark Twain and my homeboy, H.L. Mencken. I once heard him speak at Hopkins University. During Gulf War I. He riffed on the ridiculous new fashion of top commanders wearing camo battle fatigues at press conferences, instead of their dress blues or greens.

"General Schwarzkopf, now, Stormin' Norman. His uniform looks like a western omelet. How can you take a general seriously whose uniform looks like a western omelet?"


Guy sort of looked like Mark Twain didn't he?


Image: twain3.jpg

Image: vonnegut.jpg

321 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:04:26pm

re: #312 Querent

i thought i smelled a fast-growing hatchling there.
if he's learned not to taunt Mandy a second time, he's definately fit for survival.

He's also very young, 21 or so, a college student.
He's learning very quickly some good communications skills.
But he can't really spell all that well.

322 austin_blue  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:04:35pm

re: #277 Spockista

I has a Mac :-)

I has a Mac Mini with the last of the non-Intel chips. My little 'puter is bullets proof. Viruses gets kilt in the bios. Life iz good for a_b!

323 Cato the Elder  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:05:11pm

re: #297 laZardo

Oh, that's where the nickname came from.

Yeah. Our Killgore adds an extra "l", for some reason.

324 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:05:25pm

re: #321 reine.de.tout

He's also very young, 21 or so, a college student.
He's learning very quickly some good communications skills.
But he can't really spell all that well.


well nobody can these days... i kan mzspl txtmsg etc.

325 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:05:48pm

re: #321 reine.de.tout

He's also very young, 21 or so, a college student.
He's learning very quickly some good communications skills.
But he can't really spell all that well.

don't know why that's funny...like a CW song

326 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:06:09pm

re: #322 austin_blue

I has a Mac Mini with the last of the non-Intel chips. My little 'puter is bullets proof. Viruses gets kilt in the bios. Life iz good for a_b!


ah, so you has a bit-bucket?

327 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:06:40pm

re: #323 Cato the Elder

Yeah. Our Killgore adds an extra "l", for some reason.

He got all excited when he registered and accidentally added that "L".
Or something.
Sort like "brookly red" got all excited and left off the "N".
Some of the best nics have come from people trying to get registered quickly and messing up their registration.

328 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:07:19pm

re: #325 albusteve

Latest hit!

329 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:07:47pm

re: #323 Cato the Elder

Yeah. Our Killgore adds an extra "l", for some reason.

just a typo....when I first logged in I misspelled Alice for Steve....shit happens

330 Irenicum  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:08:01pm

Can I just say that it's fun to be a part of a fast moving thread. Ya know, the kind that never happen on LGF! Since there's no traffic here anymore. Ha haters! (sorry, just had to rub it in)

331 Cato the Elder  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:08:14pm

re: #320 jamesfirecat

Guy sort of looked like Mark Twain didn't he?

[Link: userweb.port.ac.uk...]

[Link: www.westportlibrary.org...]

All good satirists have great heads of hair, and keep it well into their ripe old age.

Satire, as all good art, keeps you young.

332 sergeant major  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:09:36pm

re: #25 jamesfirecat

He doesn't but he's a point of data.

In theory if we collect enough points of data we can create a reasonably predictive pattern...

I am sure I will receive many down dings for this however, If we use your "theory"; If enough data is collect in regards to terrorists attacks committed by individuals of Islamic faith than we again can create a reasonable predictive pattern ....... I am both insulted by the email but I am equally insulted by the overt suggestion that everyone one the right "could be" a racist. If this was not your intent I apologize.

333 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:09:44pm

re: #328 reine.de.tout

Latest hit!

'He Can't Spell, He Kisses Like a Frog'

334 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:09:52pm

re: #330 Irenicum

Can I just say that it's fun to be a part of a fast moving thread. Ya know, the kind that never happen on LGF! Since there's no traffic here anymore. Ha haters! (sorry, just had to rub it in)

well good riddance to 'em. my brother was gloating about the fallout btw. Charles & the right, and i told him, Charles was never really left or right, mostly an anti-idiotarian to the core.

(and i'm not so sure these days that bro isn't a pod person.)

335 swamprat  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:10:21pm

re: #324 Querent

The tiny script is what rodgers threads

336 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:10:26pm

re: #291 swamprat

It gives the thread spice.

He who controls the Spice, controls the universe. The Spice must flow.

337 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:10:29pm

re: #315 freetoken

Fox News is on a roll tonight... They posted the AP story titled: Alabama Black Caucus Wants Education Secretary to Cancel Appearance at Confederate Named School

Only 6 comments so far, 5 of which would fit the Fox viewer stereotype to a T.

And the comment about General Lee missed the mark completely. The issue is not who the school is named after, but rather that the school had actually opposed the march on Selma, thereby making it unsuitable for a commemoration event.

338 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:10:44pm

re: #333 albusteve

'He Can't Spell, He Kisses Like a Frog'

That's the Roi!
Seriously.
I love to play scrabble with him.
He makes up all sorts of words and spellings.
You think he'd learn. . .

339 Irenicum  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:10:59pm

re: #334 Querent

Just don't go to sleep and you'll be OK!

340 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:11:03pm

re: #335 swamprat
not my fault!

341 freetoken  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:11:43pm

re: #319 Irenicum

MP3 Audio
342 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:11:51pm

Oh, heck.
Midnight plus 11.
Been an interesting and enjoyable evening.
good night, all.

343 austin_blue  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:11:54pm

re: #314 Dark_Falcon

Here you go! (slides the plate down to Austin) Pass me one of Querants cupcakes, won't you?

Ya know, that was such a huge freakin' softball, I think I'll just pass.

Yes, yes, I know, that's not like me. But I'm feeling a bit mellow tonight.

This is the last weekend before the world invades Austin for two weeks (SXSW), and I am just enjoying the last chance to park in front of my house.

344 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:12:07pm

re: #336 negativ

He who controls the Spice, controls the universe. The Spice must flow.

sounds like a Mexican drug cartel

345 Cato the Elder  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:12:25pm

re: #334 Querent

well good riddance to 'em. my brother was gloating about the fallout btw. Charles & the right, and i told him, Charles was never really left or right, mostly an anti-idiotarian to the core.

(and i'm not so sure these days that bro isn't a pod person.)

You wanna do a straight-up trade for My Moonbat Brother (MMB™)?

And sorry about the Mac crack. I'll send you my old one if I'm ever employed enough to buy a new one.

346 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:13:05pm

re: #338 reine.de.tout

That's the Roi!
Seriously.
I love to play scrabble with him.
He makes up all sorts of words and spellings.
You think he'd learn. . .

a lucky man...there is a vibe there

347 Irenicum  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:14:17pm

re: #331 Cato the Elder

Hey man. Watch what you say about heads of hair. I consider humor to be a staple of human well being and I ain't got a whole lot left. The follicles may be few, but the humor still reigns!

348 jamesfirecat  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:15:13pm

re: #332 sergeant major

I am sure I will receive many down dings for this however, If we use your "theory"; If enough data is collect in regards to terrorists attacks committed by individuals of Islamic faith than we again can create a reasonable predictive pattern ... I am both insulted by the email but I am equally insulted by the overt suggestion that everyone one the right "could be" a racist. If this was not your intent I apologize.

My suggestion would be that if we collect enough points of data we could argue there are more racist people on the right than on the left, or that X percentage of people on the right seem to be racist.

The same way at the moment we seem to have gathered enough data to suggest that there are more Muslims trying to commit acts of terrorism against the US than there are... Buddhists trying to, what we do with that information once we have it is another story all together.

349 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:15:46pm

re: #345 Cato the Elder

You wanna do a straight-up trade for My Moonbat Brother (MMB™)?

And sorry about the Mac crack. I'll send you my old one if I'm ever employed enough to buy a new one.

sure. trade you moonbat for moonbat. i mean, bro changed his registration to R JUST so he could vote for He Who Is Not An Option On This Poll. (then of course proceeded to have his D vote cancelled out by my R vote. snark.) I thank the gods for Bill Whittle and Michael Z. Williamson as Facebook pals -- they balance him out nicely.

With a little help from Arthur's Hall of Viking Manliness when needed.

350 freetoken  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:16:39pm

Has anyone mentioned that Walt Baker's own company, Mercatus Communications, lists as it's top qualifications:

...producing superior, results-oriented effective communications;

Well Walt, your email certainly got results.

351 Irenicum  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:16:43pm

re: #342 reine.de.tout

G'nite Reine. Be well!

352 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:17:23pm

re: #350 freetoken

Has anyone mentioned that Walt Baker's own company, Mercatus Communications, lists as it's top qualifications:

Well Walt, your email certainly got results.


upding for snark. brief, brisk, and brilliant.

353 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:19:41pm

cupcakes must be good -- everybody's so quiet.

354 Irenicum  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:19:46pm

re: #350 freetoken

Yep. He got results all right. Just not the results his blighted racist mind had taken into account. Results indeed.

355 Bagua  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:20:51pm

re: #348 jamesfirecat

My suggestion would be that if we collect enough points of data we could argue there are more racist people on the right than on the left, or that X percentage of people on the right seem to be racist.

The same way at the moment we seem to have gathered enough data to suggest that there are more Muslims trying to commit acts of terrorism against the US than there are... Buddhists trying to, what we do with that information once we have it is another story all together.

Partisan speculation. There is a great deal of racism everywhere and it doesn't fit neatly into a right/left divide, nor do most people.

356 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:20:58pm

re: #348 jamesfirecat

My suggestion would be that if we collect enough points of data we could argue there are more racist people on the right than on the left, or that X percentage of people on the right seem to be racist.

The same way at the moment we seem to have gathered enough data to suggest that there are more Muslims trying to commit acts of terrorism against the US than there are... Buddhists trying to, what we do with that information once we have it is another story all together.

such bullshit...racism is bipartisan

357 Cato the Elder  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:21:44pm

re: #354 Irenicum

Yep. He got results all right. Just not the results his blighted racist mind had taken into account. Results indeed.

I hope he loses his business clients and has to go on food stamps.

And with that, good night, lacertae and lacerti!

358 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:21:48pm

re: #343 austin_blue

Ya know, that was such a huge freakin' softball, I think I'll just pass.

Yes, yes, I know, that's not like me. But I'm feeling a bit mellow tonight.

This is the last weekend before the world invades Austin for two weeks (SXSW), and I am just enjoying the last chance to park in front of my house.

Where do you park during the festival?

359 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:23:05pm

james / steve / bagua:

i think what it boils down to is:

there's so much of this kind of shit in the world because even these arseholes have arseholes.

360 Irenicum  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:23:25pm

re: #357 Cato the Elder

I have no idea what you just said Cato, but I suspect I agree. Have a great night bro. I think I'll call it a night too.

361 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:24:13pm

good night, all you sleepy lizards... i'll hang around a bit until the next shift arrives.

362 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:25:36pm

re: #359 Querent

james / steve / bagua:

i think what it boils down to is:

there's so much of this kind of shit in the world because even these arseholes have arseholes.

right wing racism is in the news for now...imagine if there were an internet in the 40s and 50s...where would the focus of attention be?

363 albusteve  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:27:00pm

well if Cato's gonna crash, I am too...
I'm out like Ernie Shavers

364 jamesfirecat  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:27:32pm

re: #362 albusteve

right wing racism is in the news for now...imagine if there were an internet in the 40s and 50s...where would the focus of attention be?

Left Wing racism.

But I'd argue that we did a lot to clean house in the 60's the problem is that a lot of the undesirables who were no longer welcome in the democratic party (or at least didn't want to be democrats any more) went onto become Republicans....

365 austin_blue  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:28:35pm

re: #318 Cato the Elder

Downding for reviving the "Liberty" canard. Or did you not mean to say that the Israelis knew it was our ship?

'Cause that's the anti-Semitic myth part.

All I said was that they fuck up just like everyone else. The Liberty was a major, no, huge, fuck up.

That's all. Israel is not incapable of screwing the pooch. Occasionally they do. Calling them on it is not anti-semitism. But Oliphant writes one cartoon, out of thousands, and he is a *quote* "a rabid anti-semitic". You know what? That's pure bullshit. He hammers the other side more, because they are terrorists.. That's what an editorial cartoonist does.

Remember when this board had several advocates of "transfer"? I was a lurker here and wasn't comfortable posting when Ethnic Cleansing wasn't being down dinged.

They're gone. Rightly so. Can't we be open and honest here? I consider you one of the free spirits on this board. It doesn't have to be an us or them situation with Israel.

366 austin_blue  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:30:13pm

re: #326 Querent

I am teh kitteh! I haz no dee wut teh bit bucket iz.

367 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:30:45pm

re: #366 austin_blue

lol!

368 Cato the Elder  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:31:28pm

Oh, before I go, I meant to give you all a treat for dessert to help get the gamey troll buttocks aftertaste out of your mouths.

[distributes little mincemeat pies made out of the less appealing organs of wingbats and moon-nuts]

[wild applause, shouts of "re-elect Cato for consul", lictors appear to calm the crowds as Cato exits, grinning broadly]

369 austin_blue  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:31:46pm

re: #358 Dark_Falcon

Where do you park during the festival?

Back yard.

370 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:32:22pm

re: #368 Cato the Elder
gotta say, the guy knows how to use the ENTIRE critter. And that's the Wilderness Way.

371 austin_blue  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:34:35pm

re: #370 Querent

gotta say, the guy knows how to use the ENTIRE critter. And that's the Wilderness Way.

Well, yes. Haggis is the rest of the sheep.

372 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:34:44pm

vale, Cato. Just watch your six on the monday after next.

373 Bagua  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:35:16pm

re: #365 austin_blue

'Ethnic Cleansing' is a canard. Jews have been ethnically cleansed from vast territories throughout the Arab lands. Just the amount of land confiscated from Jews is many times the size of Israel. Now all the Jews are cornered on a tiny piece of land and subject to continuous attack.

Areas of Israel given to the Arabs are completely ethnically cleansed of Jews. Insisting that Israel revert to indefensible borders to avoid 'ethnic cleansing' is thus little more than a program to eliminate Israel.

374 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:35:32pm

upding for using the Word of the Day!

(now was that Haggis, or Sheep?)

375 laZardo  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:35:53pm

Brb late lunch.

376 Cato the Elder  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:36:13pm

re: re: #365 austin_blue

owc/365/8173840">#365 austin_blue

Perhaps. But that rancid cartoon outweighs a thousand anti-Hamas ones, examples of which I'd like to see, by the way.

Plus it's a fucking visual lie.

Now enjoy your mincemeat pie and I'll look for those samples in the morning.

377 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:36:13pm

re: #368 Cato the Elder

Oh, before I go, I meant to give you all a treat for dessert to help get the gamey troll buttocks aftertaste out of your mouths.

[distributes little mincemeat pies made out of the less appealing organs of wingbats and moon-nuts]

[wild applause, shouts of "re-elect Cato for consul", lictors appear to calm the crowds as Cato exits, grinning broadly]

When I was wee, I heard my grandmother talking about eating "sweetbreads". I assumed she meant cake and muffins and the like. I would have eagerly sample some, given the chance. When I found out what it really meant, I realized the world was a lot different than I had suspected, and my grandmother seemed 1% less benevolent.

378 Bagua  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:38:22pm

re: #376 Cato the Elder

Agreed. That is blatant antiSemitism. Oliphant is despicable.

379 freetoken  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:41:06pm

re: #376 Cato the Elder


Plus it's a fucking visual lie.

Now now, Cato, let's use our post-modern correct terminology. It's an effective, results-oriented communication.

380 austin_blue  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:41:19pm

re: #373 Bagua

'Ethnic Cleansing' is a canard. Jews have been ethnically cleansed from vast territories throughout the Arab lands. Just the amount of land confiscated from Jews is many times the size of Israel. Now all the Jews are cornered on a tiny piece of land and subject to continuous attack.

Areas of Israel given to the Arabs are completely ethnically cleansed of Jews. Insisting that Israel revert to indefensible borders to avoid 'ethnic cleansing' is thus little more than a program to eliminate Israel.

Ah. That makes Transfer OK, then. Yes?

That's a good thing?

Don't be bashful and don't equivocate! Answer like a man who is proud of his position! Get out there, Bagua, make your position clear!

381 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:41:28pm

re: #376 Cato the Elder

owc/365/8173840">#365 austin_blue

Perhaps. But that rancid cartoon outweighs a thousand anti-Hamas ones, examples of which I'd like to see, by the way.

Plus it's a fucking visual lie.

Now enjoy your mincemeat pie and I'll look for those samples in the morning.

Must Concur. That cartoon was beyond the pale. Just outright blood libel territory.

382 Bagua  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:42:53pm

re: #380 austin_blue

Ah. That makes Transfer OK, then. Yes?

That's a good thing?

Don't be bashful and don't equivocate! Answer like a man who is proud of his position! Get out there, Bagua, make your position clear!

I did make my position very clear. I absolutely advocate transfer as a means to achieving true peace. The current situation is a recipe for endless war.

383 Velvet Elvis  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:43:04pm

This is a first:

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

384 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:44:36pm

re: #383 Conservative Moonbat
welcome sanity. Scientologists are crazy-to-go with a side of fries.

385 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:46:06pm

re: #381 Dark_Falcon

Must Concur. That cartoon was beyond the pale. Just outright blood libel territory.


if we're talking around the Sharon-zilla cartoon, yup, nudge nudge wink wink SAY NO MORE.

386 Bagua  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:48:32pm

re: #380 austin_blue

And don't be snarky with me, we usually communicate on a higher level whether we agree or not.

Also, don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say it was a "good" thing. It is a bad thing that has been caused by continuous violence and hatred that has been directed at Israel and the Jewish people. The Israelis are in a precarious situation surrounded by enemies that are intent on their destruction.

387 Cato the Elder  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:48:35pm

Oh, one last thing: There'll be Wingnut Tripe Soup and Bloody Moonbats in the morning for those of you who are hungover.

[bwahaha - now my re-election is guaranteed]

388 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:50:46pm

re: #387 Cato the Elder

Oh, one last thing: There'll be Wingnut Tripe Soup and Bloody Moonbats in the morning for those of you who are hungover.

[bwahaha - now my re-election is guaranteed]

you've got my vote.

389 Querent  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:52:14pm

Dark Falcon -- thanks for the karma!

390 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:54:23pm

re: #383 Conservative Moonbat

This is a first:

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

Not to leap to the defense of DK, but knowing clams I'm willing to bet that just another one of their mutant astroturfing attempts. It's common practice for them to attempt to associate their bullshit with unaffiliated sources that have a large audience.

(ha, it took about 12 minutes to say that, because Scientology is one of my very few Serious Business Buttons)

391 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Mar 6, 2010 10:58:21pm

re: #384 Querent

welcome sanity. Scientologists are crazy-to-go with a side of fries.

One of the two of us is severely misreading that link. I'm reading an impassioned defense of Scientology.

392 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 12:01:17am

re: #123 PowerFlip

Buh bye, assmunch...

393 stevemcg  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 5:43:05am

re: #13 MandyManners

This low-life motherfucker is not typical of Tennessee.

Not so fast. That "call me, Harold" ad worked wonders in Tennessee.

394 Vambo  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 12:55:44pm

re: #127 marjoriemoon

There was an Aunt Jemima one too. I never saw any of those until after the Obama election, however, when they were presented as past examples.

"Aunt Jemima" and "Uncle Ben" are descriptions used by black folks to describe blacks who are sellouts to white people. It's not necessarily racist, it depends on the context.

The Condi Rice cartoon? That was a parrot, not a monkey.

Alas, just a "THE LEFT DID IT TOO" defense of an overflowing cauldron right-wing racism.

395 Vambo  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 12:59:41pm

also, I know no one is reading this now, but I think's it absolutely fucking ignorant that people would suggest some overzealous left-wing nannying of minorities is "just as bad" as white robes, burning crosses on lawns & lynchings. Are you fucking kidding me???

396 b_Snark  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 2:16:37pm

Vambo, I agree.


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