Maybe he really is dead.

Bummer, but I think the nooses are getting tighter every day. Meanwhile HeI in Afghanistan is reported as having defected after fighting with the Taliban.

If Hekmatyar is still leading I wouldn't trust it, he's a genocidal maniac who aligns with the most recent wind quicker than the average weather vane.

Bad intelligence. They didn't know him from Adam.

re: #3 ryannon

If he's in their operations end, he might be more useful than a talking head.

Quite understandable. American terrorists all look alike.

and thoses reports of economic recovery... not so much either.

KUNDUZ: Scores of Hizb-e-Islami militants, including 11 commanders and 68 fighters, defected on Sunday and joined the Afghan government as a clash between the group and the Taliban left 79 people dead, police said.

Fighting between the Taliban and Hizb-e-Islami erupted early on Saturday in Baghlan province, said provincial police chief Muhammad Kabir Andarabi.

Citing local sources in the northern region, police officials said the battles continued on Sunday in the Jangal Bagh area. The Afghan Interior Ministry on Saturday confirmed the clashes but was not able to give casualty figures.

re: #1 Alouette

Maybe he really is dead.

or maybe he is with bin laden in an Iranian resort...

If Mr. Gadahn ever is caught, the noose should be real, not metaphorical. Treason, quite properly, carries the federal death penalty.

re: #9 lostlakehiker

If Mr. Gadahn ever is caught, the noose should be real, not metaphorical. Treason, quite properly, carries the federal death penalty.

Indeed.

and perhaps there are others...

could have been a deliberate false leak for some reason, maybe to prod someone they do have in captivity to talk

re: #11 Conservative Moonbat

could have been a deliberate false leak for some reason, maybe to prod someone they do have in captivity to talk

the fear of a jury trial in NYC won't do that???

re: #11 Conservative Moonbat

Very possible.

Damn. Can we at least get a troll to roast or sumthin'?

It would have been awesome for it to have been Gadahn. That it wasn't is a disappointment, but that we may have gotten another terrorist, possibly another American. The Pakistanis have made these kinds of pronouncements before only for the facts to be something less (or different altogether). No US official confirmation yet - guess we'll have to wait to see who was captured.

re: #11 Conservative Moonbat

Occam suggests it was a mistake.

re: #8 brookly red

or maybe he is with bin laden in an Iranian resort... Dubai

re: #8 brookly red

or maybe he is with bin laden in an Iranian resort...

pffft!...Orlando playing golf

re: #7 Thanos

These guys flip sides back and forth as it suits them day to day.

re: #18 albusteve

pffft!...Orlando playing golf

Looking for the real terrorist.

re: #19 Racer X

These guys flip sides back and forth as it suits them day to day.

they all read the Seven Pillars of Wisdom, they're not stupid

Shit.

re: #14 Cato the Elder

Damn. Can we at least get a troll to roast or sumthin'?

I'll be your Trollella sailor

re: #15 lawhawk

Reposted from this morning:

The Obama administration does not know how many Americans might have disappeared overseas to train with al Qaeda or other terrorist groups, but the number is not thought to be large, US Ambassador to Pakistan Anne W Patterson said on Friday.

Speaking to the Pacific Council on International Policy in Los Angeles, Patterson outlined a “nightmare scenario” in which people holding US passports receive terrorist training then return legally to the US to commit violent acts.

“They can easily return to the US and, frankly, we don’t know what to do about them,” she said. “We think there are more out there than we know about.”

SNIP

Earlier this month, prosecutors in Pakistan seeking to indict five Americans on terrorist charges submitted their case to a judge, accusing the men from Washington DC of waging war against Pakistan and plotting to attack the country.

The men were arrested in December in Punjab. They were reported missing by their families in November after one left behind a farewell video showing scenes of war and casualties and saying Muslims must be defended.

A US Senate report earlier this year said authorities believe as many as three-dozen Americans who converted to Islam in prison have travelled to Yemen, possibly to train with al Qaeda.

SNIP

re: #19 Racer X

These guys flip sides back and forth as it suits them day to day.

Hekmatyar much more than most, check his wiki here
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Good evening, LGF.

re: #25 Thanos

Hekmatyar much more than most, check his wiki here
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

He's a thoroughly nasty piece of work.

re: #17 Alouette

Rubs hands & snickers evilly...

re: #17 Alouette

In a hotel room?

well that sucks...

T-Bone just won his first Oscar for Crazy Heart..
What a stud on guitar...

Figures our dedicated allies in the ISI would get the ID wrong. They make the Keystone Kops look like CSI.

Accidentally on purpose?

re: #31 HoosierHoops

Well-deserved.

re: #32 Cato the Elder

Figures our dedicated allies in the ISI would get the ID wrong. They make the Keystone Kops look like CSI.

Accidentally on purpose?

I'd bet yes...

re: #27 MandyManners

He's a thoroughly nasty piece of work.

Definitely needs to stand before a war crimes tribunal several times for different incidents here are but a few:

From 1992 to 1996 the warring factions destroyed most of Kabul and killed thousands of people, most of them civilians during the Afghan civil war. All the different parties participated in the destruction, but Hekmatyar's group was responsible for most of the damage, because of his practice of deliberately targeting civilian areas.[29] Hekmatyar is thought to have bombarded Kabul in retaliation for what he considered its inhabitants' collaboration with the Soviets, and out of religious conviction. He once told a New York Times journalist that Afghanistan "already had one and a half million martyrs. We are ready to offer as many to establish a true Islamic Republic."[30] His attacks also had a political objective: to undermine the Rabbani government by proving that Rabbani and Massoud were unable to protect the population.[31]

In 1994 Hekmatyar would shift alliances, joining with Dostum as well as Hizb-e-Wahdat, a Hazara Shi'a party, to form the Shura-i Hamahangi("Council of coordination"). Together they laid siege to Kabul, unleashing massive barrages of artillery and rockets that led to the evacuation of U.N. personnel from Kabul, and caused several government members to abandon their posts. However the new alliance did not spell victory for Hekmatyar, and in June 1994, Massoud had driven Dostum's troops from the capital.

re: #31 HoosierHoops

T-Bone just won his first Oscar for Crazy Heart..
What a stud on guitar...

filmed out here in my back yard...it should get an Oscar for scenery

re: #36 albusteve

filmed out here in my back yard...it should get an Oscar for scenery

Really? I missed this movie last year...It is on the list now

re: #32 Cato the Elder

Accidentally on purpose?

That's their track record. Many in the ISI side with the Taliban.

re: #37 HoosierHoops

Really? I missed this movie last year...It is on the list now

I just heard about it when they were shooting here...and up north somewhere, probably Santa Fe...lots of movies are made here

re: #35 Thanos

I wouldn't trust him as far as I could shove him.

OT:

Unsurprisingly, Delay is acting like an ass.

Tom Delay: People Are Unemployed Because They Want To Be

"You know," Delay said, "there is an argument to be made that these extensions, the unemployment benefits keeps people from going and finding jobs. In fact there are some studies that have been done that show people stay on unemployment compensation and they don't look for a job until two or three weeks before they know the benefits are going to run out.

Host Candy Crowley: Congressman, that's a hard sell, isn't it?

Delay: it's the truth.

Crowley: People are unemployed because they want to be?

Delay: well, it is the truth. and people in the real world know it. And they have friends and they know it.

Who's Yer Wingnut Now Alert:

"If this stunning reversal comes to pass, President Obama will deal a death blow to his own Justice Department, not to mention American values."
- A. Romero, Executive Director, ACLU

re: #42 Spare O'Lake

Who's Yer Wingnut Now Alert:

BO and Holder...
what a pair to draw to

re: #42 Spare O'Lake

Context? Link?

re: #42 Spare O'Lake

Putting KSM back into the military's jurisdiction?

re: #41 Obdicut

OT:

Unsurprisingly, Delay is acting like an ass.

Tom Delay: People Are Unemployed Because They Want To Be

I'm certain he is right in many cases, but it is very unseemly to discuss that in public...another bad move Tom

re: #45 MandyManners

Putting KSM back into the military's jurisdiction?

that's my assumption

re: #46 albusteve

And he didn't say 'in many cases'. He was arguing against the extensions in general.

Delay's specialty is the poor move. He took the gold in that.

re: #44 MandyManners

Context? Link?

KSM Civil vs Military trial 180 degree unprincipled cynical flip flop.

re: #49 Spare O'Lake

KSM Civil vs Military trial 180 degree unprincipled cynical flip flop.

Announcement tomorrow?

re: #48 Obdicut

And he didn't say 'in many cases'. He was arguing against the extensions in general.

Delay's specialty is the poor move. He took the gold in that.

yes, I just don't like his haughty generalizations...these are very difficult times and the less judgmental the better

re: #45 MandyManners

Putting KSM back into the military's jurisdiction?

Yup, and I read it this evening in yesterday's National Post. In addition to Obama's flip flop, the ACLU's virulent attack on Obama was also amazing. He is on very thin ice.

re: #52 Spare O'Lake

Yup, and I read it this evening in yesterday's National Post. In addition to Obama's flip flop, the ACLU's virulent attack on Obama was also amazing. He is on very thin ice.

I posted that early this morning...I don't like the ACLUs involvement and thought their attack was out of line, but they have a point...and was it some sort of veiled threat?

re: #49 Spare O'Lake

KSM Civil vs Military trial 180 degree unprincipled cynical flip flop.

Lindsey Graham made some kind of offer where he said he'd help get Republican support for the full closure of Gitmo if Obama would move some of the key trials into military jurisdictions.

re: #53 albusteve

I posted that early this morning...I don't like the ACLUs involvement and thought their attack was out of line, but they have a point...and was it some sort of veiled threat?

Less veiled than a burka.

re: #52 Spare O'Lake

Yup, and I read it this evening in yesterday's National Post. In addition to Obama's flip flop, the ACLU's virulent attack on Obama was also amazing. He is on very thin ice.

Moonbats' head exploding?

re: #56 MandyManners

Moonbats' head exploding?

Mine's just fine so long as it's a fair trial and not some cockamamie tribunal where the defense isn't allowed access to any of the evidence against them and all that bullshit.

re: #54 Conservative Moonbat

Lindsey Graham made some kind of offer where he said he'd help get Republican support for the full closure of Gitmo if Obama would move some of the key trials into military jurisdictions.

Obams's got the bait in his mouth and is about to swallow it.

re: #57 Conservative Moonbat

Mine's just fine so long as it's a fair trial and not some cockamamie tribunal where the defense isn't allowed access to any of the evidence against them and all that bullshit.

One aspect I like is that he won't be allowed to turn it into a show.

re: #58 Spare O'Lake

Obams's got the bait in his mouth and is about to swallow it.

the whole issue has become an obscene exercise in retribution politics...BO and Holder have it all fucked up now...the point has been lost in a bunch of juvenile nit picking...the Trial should be over by now and the deed done...what o bunch of cheap grandstanding

re: #57 Conservative Moonbat

Mine's just fine so long as it's a fair trial and not some cockamamie tribunal where the defense isn't allowed access to any of the evidence against them and all that bullshit.

what's it matter?...the POTUS and his AG say he's guilty and is baked for life...so what the fuck is all the fuss?...run him throught the system at Gitmo and be done with it...it's already done right?...why bring it to NYC for two years and $200m...tell me...what's the POINT?...there is only one point and it's political throat cutting...we deserve better

re: #54 Conservative Moonbat

Lindsey Graham made some kind of offer where he said he'd help get Republican support for the full closure of Gitmo if Obama would move some of the key trials into military jurisdictions.

ha! Like Obama needs it. We've been doubling up on Bagram anyway.
Unless Graham is going to come across with support for HCR he can get fucked, imo.

re: #41 Obdicut

OT:

Unsurprisingly, Delay is acting like an ass.

Tom Delay: People Are Unemployed Because They Want To Be

I would love to invite him to visit Detroit.

Damn.