Thank You, Internet Gods

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I’d just like to express my gratitude to the gods of the Internet that I’m not associated with irrational anti-science lunatics like Tim Blair any more.

UPDATE at 3/7/10 9:04:59 pm:

And white supremacist blogger Robert Stacy McCain is chiming in too, with another thousand-word essay! It’s a two-fer!

I must say, it’s pretty comfortable here living inside McCain’s head, once you get past the stench of racism. Excuse me while I relax and put my feet up on McCain’s medulla oblongata.

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102 comments
1 freetoken  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 8:42:15pm

People like Blair just refuse to investigate the actual material. Reading Bedell’s entries and listening to his audio one can only come to one conclusion - Bedell was a hard-core Mises-type Fundamentalist Libertarian.

2 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 8:42:48pm

Charles, you have made you own way on the Internet. Good luck is the result of hard work, and you have done much of that. It’s not about the internet gods. It’s about your research, your values, and your commitment to honesty and learning.
For those values, I salute you!

3 Cato the Elder  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 8:44:17pm

Charles - you get my vote for Real-World Anti-Idiotarian of the Decade.

4 jaunte  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 8:45:06pm

Tim’s not exactly earning his money as a columnist with today’s entry.
Pretty lazy.

5 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 8:46:06pm

Can someone tell me how Charles was ever “associated” with this guy? I don’t understand the connection.

6 laZardo  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 8:54:53pm

may teh blessins of ceiling cat rain down upon u, lfg.

/ :3

7 Charles Johnson  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 8:55:55pm

re: #1 freetoken

People like Blair just refuse to investigate the actual material. Reading Bedell’s entries and listening to his audio one can only come to one conclusion - Bedell was a hard-core Mises-type Fundamentalist Libertarian.

Oh no! He smoked pot! That means he’s a lefty, don’t you realize that?

8 Charles Johnson  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 8:58:24pm

And amazingly, white supremacist Robert Stacy McCain has posted another loony rant about me tonight.

It must really suck for these people to have me living inside their heads.

9 freetoken  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 8:59:13pm

re: #7 Charles

Yeah… tell Goldwater that.

Too many people don’t realize that the Victorian/prudish behavior to pot is a characteristic of the Religious Right, but not of the Libertarian Right.

I guess kudos should go out to the RR for taking over the entire meaning of “conservative” and “right” in our societies’ lexicons - it was a brilliant socio-political move.

10 Spockista  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:01:21pm

re: #7 Charles

Oh no! He smoked pot! That means he’s a lefty, don’t you realize that?

How many of these right wing loons know NOTHING about the Von Mises theory of economics?

On another board, some moron tried to challenge this point by claiming Von Mises was “classical Liberalism” therefore “liberal”.

Have any of them ever taken a polisci or economics class? EVER???

It’s like when they claimed Czars were “Communists” because the term is originally Russian, WTF?

11 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:01:28pm

re: #8 Charles

And amazingly, white supremacist Robert Stacy McCain has posted another loony rant about me tonight.

It must really suck for these people to have me living inside their heads.

What a maroon. Why is wasting his time? Doesn’t he know you’re “irrelevant”?

12 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:02:46pm

re: #8 Charles

And amazingly, white supremacist Robert Stacy McCain has posted another loony rant about me tonight.

It must really suck for these people to have me living inside their heads.

Make it hurt!

13 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:02:49pm

“The Hurt Locker” was an OK movie, but “Avatar” TOTALLY KICKED ASS.

14 laZardo  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:02:51pm

re: #9 freetoken

Smaller, more responsible government (i.e. sane libertarianism) isn’t strictly partisan. There are some valid points made about government spending by some on the right, and other valid points about government vs. privacy from the left.

15 Gus  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:06:31pm

What does Pakistan have to do with anything? Oh well, never mind. No sense in trying to figure out what’s going on the mind of this wingnut, Tim Blair.

I noticed a pattern here. Seems as though whenever white supremacist Robert Stacy McCain is freaking out Tim Blair follows.

16 freetoken  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:06:52pm

re: #10 Spockista

It’s like when they claimed Czars were “Communists” because the term is originally Russian, WTF?

This is a very important point, I think , even if you meant it as a throw-away.

Now, Cato is the philological expert around here, not me, but it has occurred to me that many of the reactionaries/revanchists are identify with their “movement” based on a very trivial/shallow understanding of the words which they throw around in their group think.

If it sounds like a word might mean something, then it must! At least in their minds.

We saw this with President Obama’s name being reacted to in a most hysteric manner.

The experience you related is just one more example.

17 Cato the Elder  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:10:32pm

re: #8 Charles

And amazingly, white supremacist Robert Stacy McCain has posted another loony rant about me tonight.

It must really suck for these people to have me living inside their heads.

What’s it like in there, Charles? The fug must be awful, I would think.

18 Spockista  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:11:19pm

re: #16 freetoken

It’s their desperate call for talking points for the ignorant.

I was at 9/12 in DC and saw the stupid.

I have nothing against a good protest on whatever side, but 9/12 was a circus of morons and bigotry.

Orly Taitz was walking around with a body guard, the right wing version of Courtney Love.

19 Charles Johnson  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:11:21pm

re: #17 Cato the Elder

What’s it like in there, Charles? The fug must be awful, I would think.

Smells a little like rotten pineapple. But you get used to it.

20 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:11:33pm
Excuse me while I relax and put my feet up on McCain’s medulla oblongata.

Doesn’t that get nasty shit on your shoes?

21 Ojoe  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:11:33pm

When you are in his brain, you might apply
This ?
to it clean up a bit, Charles.

Good night all

22 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:14:30pm

re: #15 Gus 802

What does Pakistan have to do with anything? Oh well, never mind. No sense in trying to figure out what’s going on the mind of this wingnut, Tim Blair.

I noticed a pattern here. Seems as though whenever white supremacist Robert Stacy McCain is freaking out Tim Blair follows.

Tweedle Dee & Tweedle Dum?

23 Gus  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:16:49pm

re: #22 Floral Giraffe

Tweedle Dee & Tweedle Dum?

Dumb and dumber.

24 Irenicum  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:19:28pm

re: #15 Gus 802

Maybe they’re each others’ dopplegangbanger?

25 Cato the Elder  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:22:02pm

Tweedledumb and Tweedledumber.

26 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:23:02pm

Nitey nite.

27 laZardo  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:25:41pm

re: #26 Alouette

Weet dreams!

28 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:26:45pm

Tim Blair:

… and registration as a Democrat are all indicators of … right-wing extremism.

Again, here are the real facts. In 2008 a California voter with “declines to state” status had only two choices of primary ballot to pick between, the Democratic Party and the American Independent Party. Those were the only two choices.

People in that category who wanted to have any kind of impact on the fall match up at all chose a Democratic ballot. The Republicans froze themselves out by running a closed primary.

29 Spockista  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:31:42pm

re: #28 goddamnedfrank

Not to mention that he hadn’t voted since November 8, 2005!

A lot of Libertarians voted for Kerry in 2004 as an anti-Bush vote.

30 Irenicum  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:34:26pm

Actually, I’ve adjusted my party affiliation when I’ve moved to areas heavily dominated by one party in order to better participate in the primary system, since that’s where the real choice ends up being made. So depending where I live I’ve been a Democrat, a Republican, or an Independent. Party affiliation is a very small part of understanding a person’s political philosophy, unless they belong to a party that’s outright extremist. Then it makes sense to use that as a template for judging their political views. But since the GOP and the Dems have historically been big tent parties, you can have all kinds of ideas and still be either one.

31 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:34:47pm

re: #29 Spockista

Not to mention that he hadn’t voted since November 8, 2005!

A lot of Libertarians voted for Kerry in 2004 as an anti-Bush vote.

I never understood that mindset. We were already in the middle of a war and Kerry clearly was not the man to wage it successfully. In my eyes that made all the difference.

32 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:37:22pm

re: #30 Irenicum

Actually, I’ve adjusted my party affiliation when I’ve moved to areas heavily dominated by one party in order to better participate in the primary system, since that’s where the real choice ends up being made. So depending where I live I’ve been a Democrat, a Republican, or an Independent. Party affiliation is a very small part of understanding a person’s political philosophy, unless they belong to a party that’s outright extremist. Then it makes sense to use that as a template for judging their political views. But since the GOP and the Dems have historically been big tent parties, you can have all kinds of ideas and still be either one.

I’ve always been a Republican, even when they had no chance in the general election. The alternative would have been a rather left-of-center DEm, and I was not prepared to do that. I’ve only made a few exceptions, in those cases because I’d actually met the Sem and found them trustable with the office.

33 albusteve  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:37:42pm

these guys get too carried away…is there any information, anything to learn?…all just opinions about other people…deny science, deny reality then slam others that disagree with you?…how can a person even make a living this way?….it’s just a constant circle jerk that really doesn’t mean anything….maybe I don’t get it

34 Charles Johnson  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:38:15pm

re: #30 Irenicum

Actually, I’ve adjusted my party affiliation when I’ve moved to areas heavily dominated by one party in order to better participate in the primary system, since that’s where the real choice ends up being made. So depending where I live I’ve been a Democrat, a Republican, or an Independent. Party affiliation is a very small part of understanding a person’s political philosophy, unless they belong to a party that’s outright extremist. Then it makes sense to use that as a template for judging their political views. But since the GOP and the Dems have historically been big tent parties, you can have all kinds of ideas and still be either one.

Sure, rational people know all that stuff. But Blair and McCain aren’t talking to rational people — they’re in the business of providing easy excuses for people who don’t want to think.

35 Killgore Trout  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:38:55pm

re: #31 Dark_Falcon

The Libertarians were (and still are) against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. They also despised the Patriot act. They would have voted Dem during the Bush years. Sadly they’re now interested in voting Republican. That’s a problem.

36 Jack Burton  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:39:47pm

re: #31 Dark_Falcon

I never understood that mindset. We were already in the middle of a war and Kerry clearly was not the man to wage it successfully. In my eyes that made all the difference.

Because they wanted the war to be over faster than Code Pink did.

37 Spockista  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:40:44pm

re: #31 Dark_Falcon

A lot of the rightwing gang at Lew Rockwell’s and Justin Ramondo’s “antiwar.com” ( a right wing site) hated Bush, as did we lefties, but not for the same reasons.

These guys are isolationists and hate Jews.

They see blame the US getting into Iraq as Bush pandering to Jews.

Buchanan, Rockwell, Ron Paul are very pro-anglo white and think there is a Jewish plot to take away their political power.

38 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:42:16pm

re: #36 ArchangelMichael

Because they wanted the war to be over faster than Code Pink did.

A true lack of thought mixed in with a purity obsession. No wonder so many of those people now attend Tea Parties; They’re a perfect fit.

39 albusteve  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:43:50pm

re: #35 Killgore Trout

The Libertarians were (and still are) against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. They also despised the Patriot act. They would have voted Dem during the Bush years. Sadly they’re now interested in voting Republican. That’s a problem.

only if you disagree with them…people buying and selling their votes is a real turn off to me…I think it’s more that people want to identify with a winning political party than to stand on their principles regardless….it’s like a game now…it’s killing common sense and creating a hostile environment where nothing gets done…in other words, we are fucked….welcome to AmIdol politics

40 freetoken  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:43:50pm

re: #35 Killgore Trout

Indeed, on the top of the pile right now at Rockwell’s site is an essay titled “The Few, the Proud, the High School Students” which is all about the evilness of having military recruiters going after students.

41 Irenicum  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:43:52pm

re: #34 Charles

Good point Charles.re: #34 Charles

I’m finishing up a book by Cass Sunstein call Going to Extremes and in it he points out that people self segregate their information input and thus as they gather together, they self select into a tighter circle, thus eventually excluding any moderates in the group and they naturally trend towards a deeper extremism. A great if disturbing read. It’s helping me to make more sense of the insanity that has become the modern right. (by the way, he hits the nutjobs on the left too. So it’s not just a partisan hack job)

42 freetoken  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:45:14pm

re: #41 Irenicum


I’m finishing up a book by Cass Sunstein

Glenn Beck would not approve of your reading list.

43 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:45:57pm

re: #42 freetoken

Glenn Beck would not approve of your reading list.

Glenn Beck can go pound chalk dust up his ass!

44 Irenicum  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:49:18pm

re: #37 Spockista

You make a great point. There was a time when I bought into the whole Justin/Lew meme. But like you, I skew left on most issues, and so my motivation for my opposition to Bush came from a different place. It took me a while to get that they were coming at these issues from a deeply illiberal perspective, I’m ashamed to say. That crowd is deeply nativist and in their call for individual liberty is hidden the poison stream of hatred of anything “other.”

45 albusteve  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:50:18pm

re: #43 Dark_Falcon

Glenn Beck can go pound chalk dust up his ass!

ya think?…he’s a huge influence on people, just like BOs hopeandchange gig…they don’t pound chalk, on the contrary, they get elected and make vast sums of money…they are somebody and you are nobody

46 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:52:32pm

re: #45 albusteve

ya think?…he’s a huge influence on people, just like BOs hopeandchange gig…they don’t pound chalk, on the contrary, they get elected and make vast sums of money…they are somebody and you are nobody

I know that, Steve. Did I offend you in some way that you felt the need to rub it in like that?

47 Irenicum  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:53:11pm

re: #42 freetoken

re: #43 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, I know Glenn “apocalyptic rodeo clown” Beck wouldn’t approve of my reading anything by Cass Sunstein. That just makes it all the more enjoyable!

48 Cato the Elder  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:56:10pm
Excuse me while I relax and put my feet up on McCain’s medulla oblongata.

Tread lightly, Charles. You might affect his heart function.

Oh, wait…

While you’re there, look around for the amygdala. There should be two, one in each cerebral hemisphere. Shaped like almonds, as the name implies.

I suspect he doesn’t have any. They control the sense of smell, and if they were present, they might alert him to the stench of the company he keeps.

49 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:56:22pm

re: #47 Irenicum

re: #43 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, I know Glenn “apocalyptic rodeo clown” Beck wouldn’t approve of my reading anything by Cass Sunstein. That just makes it all the more enjoyable!

Concur. I ddon’t agree with Cass Sunstein in most matters, but unlike Glen Beck he’s a sane person who presents his arguments in a logical and coherent fashion. Thus I find him much easier to read or listen to than Glenn Beck.

50 austin_blue  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:56:50pm

re: #45 albusteve

ya think?…he’s a huge influence on people, just like BOs hopeandchange gig…they don’t pound chalk, on the contrary, they get elected and make vast sums of money…they are somebody and you are nobody

Glen Beck was elected? Obama has made vast sums of money?

And DF, in my eyes, is a somebody.

51 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:58:23pm

re: #48 Cato the Elder

Tread lightly, Charles. You might affect his heart function.

Oh, wait…

While you’re there, look around for the amygdala. There should be two, one in each cerebral hemisphere. Shaped like almonds, as the name implies.

I suspect he doesn’t have any. They control the sense of smell, and if they were present, they might alert him to the stench of the company he keeps.

To RSM, the rancid stench of racism smells like breath of spring. His nose, like the rest of his head, is used to bad smells by virtue of his head spending most of its time up his ass.

52 albusteve  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:58:44pm

re: #46 Dark_Falcon

I know that, Steve. Did I offend you in some way that you felt the need to rub it in like that?

not rubbing anything in…it was rubbed long ago…following politics is a fun pursuit, like a hobby, or watching movies but if you think for a second that somebody’s TV show, or book or essay makes a difference as to defining leadership and accomplishing what’s good for America, you are living inside the illusion…what’s the point in getting so shook up about it?

53 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:58:58pm

re: #50 austin_blue

Glen Beck was elected? Obama has made vast sums of money?

And DF, in my eyes, is a somebody.

Thank you, Austin.

54 Spockista  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 9:59:50pm

re: #44 Irenicum

My realization came when a local “leftist” (cough! cough!) activist who was also a writer and contributor for antiwar.com once tried to corner me on my opine on the israel/zionism situation.

My response was honest, “I don’t agree with Israel policy yet even though I am an atheist, I am also an ethnic Jew, therefore it is a painful subject for me”

His response was a look a revulsion and came back with “I never knew you were a JEW!”
I soon learned that this guy was a third position populist posing as a lefty try and suck lefties into that Ron Paul crowd.

And the true mission of antiwar.com became crystal clear.

There is a lot of ugliness out there…

55 albusteve  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:00:47pm

re: #50 austin_blue

Glen Beck was elected? Obama has made vast sums of money?

And DF, in my eyes, is a somebody.

sure he’s somebody, but not to anybody in DC….he’s potential

56 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:00:51pm

re: #52 albusteve

not rubbing anything in…it was rubbed long ago…following politics is a fun pursuit, like a hobby, or watching movies but if you think for a second that somebody’s TV show, or book or essay makes a difference as to defining leadership and accomplishing what’s good for America, you are living inside the illusion…what’s the point in getting so shook up about it?

I need to get a little worked up sometimes, because the small things I can do to change things require me bring enthusiasm to the table. If I want to win the support of co-workers and neighbors for my preferred candidates, I have to convince them its a good idea. Getting worked up can be good for selling.

57 austin_blue  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:02:59pm

re: #53 Dark_Falcon

Thank you, Austin.

Of course! Steve’s vision of America is so dark and so cynical…well, Here:

58 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:03:14pm

re: #55 albusteve

sure he’s somebody, but not to anybody in DC…he’s potential

Thank you for that clarification, Steve. I understand your point now. Sorry I was taken aback before.

59 austin_blue  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:04:46pm

Let’s try that again:

re: #57 austin_blue

Of course! Steve’s vision of America is so dark and so cynical…well, Here:

((not rubbing anything in…it was rubbed long ago…following politics is a fun pursuit, like a hobby, or watching movies but if you think for a second that somebody’s TV show, or book or essay makes a difference as to defining leadership and accomplishing what’s good for America, you are living inside the illusion…what’s the point in getting so shook up about it?))

He’s given up.

60 albusteve  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:06:15pm

re: #56 Dark_Falcon

I need to get a little worked up sometimes, because the small things I can do to change things require me bring enthusiasm to the table. If I want to win the support of co-workers and neighbors for my preferred candidates, I have to convince them its a good idea. Getting worked up can be good for selling.

well then work harder, talk more and by all means hope for change…I know you don’t like hearing it but you are a very small little pawn, a number somewhere buried deep in a poll…the feds don’t give a crap about you as much as you’d like to think that you can make them hear you…look what’s happened to the TP thing, opportunists and fringe yellers and celebrity idol mongers influence govt

61 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:07:21pm

We have a lot of guys like Robert Stacy McCain in fandom. Persistent wordy angry trolls who flip out at everything and think they’re God’s gift to the internet. I wonder if he runs around in the woods in a robe with a foam sword pretending to cast spells too…

62 albusteve  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:08:17pm

re: #57 austin_blue

Of course! Steve’s vision of America is so dark and so cynical…well, Here:

right….recovery is just around the corner!….step away from it and maybe you can see why people are frustrated, cynical and have lost confidence

63 blueraven  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:09:36pm

re: #60 albusteve

well then work harder, talk more and by all means hope for change…I know you don’t like hearing it but you are a very small little pawn, a number somewhere buried deep in a poll…the feds don’t give a crap about you as much as you’d like to think that you can make them hear you…look what’s happened to the TP thing, opportunists and fringe yellers and celebrity idol mongers influence govt

So the rest of us shouldn’t get “shook up” about it. Let the fringe take over?

64 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:09:42pm

re: #62 albusteve

right…recovery is just around the corner!…step away from it and maybe you can see why people are frustrated, cynical and have lost confidence

It sucks now, but that doesn’t mean nobody in government’s at least trying to make it better.

I am an optimist, though :D

65 austin_blue  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:10:51pm

re: #61 WindUpBird

We have a lot of guys like Robert Stacy McCain in fandom. Persistent wordy angry trolls who flip out at everything and think they’re God’s gift to the internet. I wonder if he runs around in the woods in a robe with a foam sword pretending to cast spells too…

Nah. I’m pretty sure he’s got something like this:

[Link: www.excaliburbrothers.com…]

Helps to keep the Mud People under control.

66 albusteve  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:11:13pm

re: #59 austin_blue

Let’s try that again:

((not rubbing anything in…it was rubbed long ago…following politics is a fun pursuit, like a hobby, or watching movies but if you think for a second that somebody’s TV show, or book or essay makes a difference as to defining leadership and accomplishing what’s good for America, you are living inside the illusion…what’s the point in getting so shook up about it?))

He’s given up.

but I still pay attention…and after all BO got elected so I guess anything is possible…in the meantime crawling through the dirt is not my style

67 austin_blue  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:12:20pm

re: #62 albusteve

right…recovery is just around the corner!…step away from it and maybe you can see why people are frustrated, cynical and have lost confidence

And you have advocated…what?

68 albusteve  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:14:10pm

re: #63 blueraven

So the rest of us shouldn’t get “shook up” about it. Let the fringe take over?

they are…only voters can stop them and if you feel you have a mission in there someplace I’m glad for you….it’s all I can do right now to take care of myself

69 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:15:12pm

re: #45 albusteve

ya think?…he’s a huge influence on people, just like BOs hopeandchange gig…they don’t pound chalk, on the contrary, they get elected and make vast sums of money…they are somebody and you are nobody

Cranky!!

70 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:18:50pm

re: #65 austin_blue

Nah. I’m pretty sure he’s got something like this:

[Link: www.excaliburbrothers.com…]

Helps to keep the Mud People under control.

Well, that site does have something for Cato, so they can’t be all bad.

If you go there, note the short, thick nature of the Gladius. It was designed for stabbing and chopping and its size and shape reflect that. It may not look like much, but Roman Legionaries armed with repeated bested Celtic warriors armed with far more impressive-seeming swords.

71 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:22:25pm

re: #70 Dark_Falcon

Well, that site does have something for Cato, so they can’t be all bad.

If you go there, note the short, thick nature of the Gladius. It was designed for stabbing and chopping and its size and shape reflect that. It may not look like much, but Roman Legionaries armed with it repeatedly bested Celtic warriors armed with far more impressive-seeming swords.

PIMF

72 albusteve  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:22:44pm

re: #67 austin_blue

And you have advocated…what?

I don’t advocate, I watch and react…I probably will not vote again in national elections…I see no reason to get out of bed to vote between some clown like BO and another clown from another party…I’m not that deep into it…the success or failure of this country does not rest with the voters…it rests with elected officials that serve the interests of the people, not their party, and not themselves….but that notion is so stale, it’s like an antique…what’s to advocate?…smaller, less intrusive govt?….wake me up when it’s over…I don’t have a problem with concerned citizens, I just think there is way too much focus on television, the MSM, blog slapfests and fringe loonies that don’t deserve any attention but people give them more attention than they can choke on….I see no resolution if voters are obsessed with tuning into Beck every night for their fix…

73 albusteve  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:23:51pm

re: #69 eclectic infidel

Cranky!!

well hang in there!…America loves a winner, whatever that is!

74 avanti  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:26:06pm

Beck uses a bogus quote on his show, despite his crack research staff./ He’s quoted Jefferson incorrectly in the past, now this fake quote:

Did George Washington say:

“It is impossible to govern the world without God and the Bible.” in his farewell speech of 1796?

No. Not then or any other known time.”

link…

Here’s the shocker, Hot Air had a link about it:

link…

75 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:27:44pm

re: #74 avanti

Beck uses a bogus quote on his show, despite his crack research staff./ He’s quoted Jefferson incorrectly in the past, now this fake quote:

Did George Washington say:

“It is impossible to govern the world without God and the Bible.” in his farewell speech of 1796?

No. Not then or any other known time.”

link…

Here’s the shocker, Hot Air had a link about it:

link…

Glen Beck is so lame that he gets PWNED by Hot Air. What a goofball.

76 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:29:10pm

re: #74 avanti

Beck uses a bogus quote on his show, despite his crack research staff./ He’s quoted Jefferson incorrectly in the past, now this fake quote:

Did George Washington say:

“It is impossible to govern the world without God and the Bible.” in his farewell speech of 1796?

No. Not then or any other known time.”

link…

Here’s the shocker, Hot Air had a link about it:

link…

Money quote from Reihl, who should think and how this applies to himself:

“No agenda will prevail to good effect with an ignorant buffoon leading the effort.”

77 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:31:52pm

re: #61 WindUpBird

We have a lot of guys like Robert Stacy McCain in fandom. Persistent wordy angry trolls who flip out at everything and think they’re God’s gift to the internet. I wonder if he runs around in the woods in a robe with a foam sword pretending to cast spells too…

I think I can guess his LARP of choice…

78 Irenicum  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:32:49pm

As an aside, I just want to say that I really appreciate the non-echo chamber that LGF is. Every night we see fights break out between friends who see the world in pretty different ways. Yet, overall, we’re like the Senate of the old days, when the Senators could furiously debate during the day and have a beer at the local DC bar that night, and sometimes even work out an arrangement! That’s what attracted me to here in the first place. Charles, you’ve attracted a wide ranging readership, from the left and the right, from the religious (like me) to the irreligious, and in that tumultuous environment you’ve managed to keep some decorum while allowing free expression. Kudos!

79 austin_blue  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:36:05pm

re: #72 albusteve

I don’t advocate, I watch and react…I probably will not vote again in national elections…I see no reason to get out of bed to vote between some clown like BO and another clown from another party…I’m not that deep into it…the success or failure of this country does not rest with the voters…it rests with elected officials that serve the interests of the people, not their party, and not themselves…but that notion is so stale, it’s like an antique…what’s to advocate?…smaller, less intrusive govt?…wake me up when it’s over…I don’t have a problem with concerned citizens, I just think there is way too much focus on television, the MSM, blog slapfests and fringe loonies that don’t deserve any attention but people give them more attention than they can choke on…I see no resolution if voters are obsessed with tuning into Beck every night for their fix…

Okay, then you have opted out of the Social Contract and personally seceded from the USA. Why stay? You apparently feel betrayed by what the country was founded upon. You apparently feel helpless to change it. If you don’t act, who will?

Just sayin’..

80 Irenicum  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:36:20pm

re: #74 avanti

Fake History is a cool site! Thanks for the link. I’ll be going back to that for research!

81 austin_blue  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:38:12pm

Ack! Alarm in seven hours. Time for the rack. Good night my dears. Sleep well.

82 avanti  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:38:46pm

re: #80 Irenicum

Fake History is a cool site! Thanks for the link. I’ll be going back to that for research!

Send a link to Beck for me, will you. :)

83 Irenicum  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:39:05pm

re: #75 Dark_Falcon

On the hot air link, it’s fun (but not in a ha ha way) to read the blowback for even questioning Beck.

84 Irenicum  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:39:56pm

re: #81 austin_blue

In the words of the evil scientist to Bugs Bunny, Nighty Night!

85 Jack Burton  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:42:11pm

re: #77 SanFranciscoZionist

I think I can guess his LARP of choice…

I was thinking something like this:

86 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:47:31pm

re: #83 Irenicum

On the hot air link, it’s fun (but not in a ha ha way) to read the blowback for even questioning Beck.

Yep. Question a Wingnut Idol, and you can be sure you’ll catch plenty of butthurt insults.

87 jamesfirecat  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:48:30pm

re: #85 ArchangelMichael

I was thinking something like this:


[Video]

What’s with the Cigar? He’s suppose to be Robert E. Lee right? I don’t really recall Lee being much of a smoker, was he?

88 albusteve  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:48:55pm

re: #79 austin_blue

Okay, then you have opted out of the Social Contract and personally seceded from the USA. Why stay? You apparently feel betrayed by what the country was founded upon. You apparently feel helpless to change it. If you don’t act, who will?

Just sayin’..

why stay?….is this a new meme?…hahaha!….I’m an American citizen and there is no obligation for me to roll over for the feds, vote, or any other civic function except pay taxes….I never made a social contract with anybody but my wives and that’s entirely my business…like I said, we are fucked…if you want to forge ahead with glowing optimism that you are going to influence DC go ahead….and if you think that TV pundits are your first line of attack so be it….good luck with that…I don’t really feel betrayed, this is what it has come to in an age of instant misinformation….people are basically ignorant and the pols know it…..we are busy working, and living, and paying bills and we are susceptible to the media and grinning pols that tell us what we want to hear….life in America where the elites rule and the rest of us finance it….nothing new, I’m neither surprised nor dismayed….I have tons of freedom and can easily choose to ignore the govt…but I’m not so heartless that I care about the next guy

89 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:49:38pm

re: #87 jamesfirecat

What’s with the Cigar? He’s suppose to be Robert E. Lee right? I don’t really recall Lee being much of a smoker, was he?

I have no clue, actually.

90 Jack Burton  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:51:00pm

re: #87 jamesfirecat

What’s with the Cigar? He’s suppose to be Robert E. Lee right? I don’t really recall Lee being much of a smoker, was he?

I don’t know about Lee, but the Ben Horne character did smoke cigars in the show regularly when we wasn’t mid-mental breakdown.

91 avanti  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:51:31pm

re: #83 Irenicum

On the hot air link, it’s fun (but not in a ha ha way) to read the blowback for even questioning Beck.

More blog wars, I think Hot Air pulled the link, the linkee was amused:


“So, what do I spy this evening when I look? A headline link to my Glenn Beck post, which I haven’t enjoyed from Hot Air in maybe two years. For the record, Beck has also prominently misquoted Jefferson, as well as others and never admitted, or corrected it. And a great many people know he steals material without attribution, too.

We need to reject demagogy in all its forms. And if Beck can’t clean up his act given all his resources, then we have to reject him. No agenda will prevail to good effect with an ignorant buffoon leading the effort.

Recently, I was told he has been doing the Phoenix Group, which I broke out here in 2006. Of course, he may have gotten that lead elsewhere by now, who knows. But no self styled leader should be mangling the words of the Founders and not caring about it enough to correct himself, especially with his research staff.

So, what’s my complaint? None really. But, well-played, Allah, I assume. I’ll take the traffic but do please round up the retarded Beck fanatics by morning. I wouldn’t want them to get hurt in my comments area if I run over them. I’d hate to see them cry just like the silly mad matinee idol they worship did before maybe the shtick got old. heh!

Or maybe he’s saving up his tears for the next book tour, who knows.”

92 Irenicum  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 10:53:33pm

And now for something completely different: Japanese UFO song:
(hat tip to Great Dismal via twitter)

93 Irenicum  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 11:03:18pm

Here’s Dan Riehl’s response to the Beck defenders:

Look, asshats, what I’m seeing is a lot of ignorance from Beck defenders. Suddenly a quote need not be a quote, the words of the Founders are free for anyone to make up when it pleases them. Frankly, you people repulse me for your lack of standards and integrity all because you are transfixed with some matinee idol with a bad haircut.

YOu should be ashamed of yourselves and would be, were you not so quick to embrace ignorance because you get a tingle up your legs. Yopu’re no better than Chris Matthews in that regard. My only regret is that you align yourselves with the Right, as I do.

Posted by: Dan Riehl %P% Sunday, March 07, 2010 at 03:28 PM

And then he immediately gets accused of being an agent of Saul Alinksy. Rich beyond words!

94 Irenicum  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 11:04:24pm

Here’s the link to the exact quote.

95 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 11:04:42pm

re: #91 avanti

More blog wars, I think Hot Air pulled the link, the linkee was amused:

“So, what do I spy this evening when I look? A headline link to my Glenn Beck post, which I haven’t enjoyed from Hot Air in maybe two years. For the record, Beck has also prominently misquoted Jefferson, as well as others and never admitted, or corrected it. And a great many people know he steals material without attribution, too.

We need to reject demagogy in all its forms. And if Beck can’t clean up his act given all his resources, then we have to reject him. No agenda will prevail to good effect with an ignorant buffoon leading the effort.

Recently, I was told he has been doing the Phoenix Group, which I broke out here in 2006. Of course, he may have gotten that lead elsewhere by now, who knows. But no self styled leader should be mangling the words of the Founders and not caring about it enough to correct himself, especially with his research staff.

So, what’s my complaint? None really. But, well-played, Allah, I assume. I’ll take the traffic but do please round up the retarded Beck fanatics by morning. I wouldn’t want them to get hurt in my comments area if I run over them. I’d hate to see them cry just like the silly mad matinee idol they worship did before maybe the shtick got old. heh!

Or maybe he’s saving up his tears for the next book tour, who knows.”

Great stuff. Watching your enemies tear into each other while you sit back and watch comfortably: That’s Entertainment!

96 Irenicum  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 11:09:58pm

re: #95 Dark_Falcon

Or as I prefer, serious hardcore schadenfreude.

97 Irenicum  Sun, Mar 7, 2010 11:15:50pm

Well gang, it’s late and tomorrow beckons. G’nite y’all.

98 iceweasel  Mon, Mar 8, 2010 6:44:29am

The medulla oblongata is about the only part of the brain that I’ll concede McCain has, and even there I suspect it isn’t entirely functioning as it should:

The medulla oblongata is the lower half of the brainstem. In discussions of neurology and similar contexts where no ambiguity will result, it is often referred to as simply the medulla. The medulla contains the cardiac, respiratory, vomiting and vasomotor centers and deals with autonomic functions, such as breathing, heart rate and blood pressure.

99 Sacred Plants  Mon, Mar 8, 2010 7:24:36am

The Australians are justified to question the American sincerity on the prohibition issue. The man had the drug war raging through his beloved private property, which is precisely the situation of Pakistan in a nutshell. Now this blogger has kept pretty much agnostic on the issue, but the superficial neutrality is corrupted by a culture of surveillance which is interested to keep up prohibition as a figleaf for its meddling with individual data sovereignty. His critics may be even worse, but how is it to be excluded that the shooter in fact had his soul raped by government surveillance?

Does this blogger actually practise marijuana taqiyya? His role in the FISA betrayal should be an indicator.

100 Dom  Mon, Mar 8, 2010 7:36:00am

Staying away from nutjobs like McCain and moderating comments on your site is basic professionalism no matter how much flak you get for it. In fact it’s a very important example, and there’s a stupidity in not doing that: welcoming all allies no matter their position, people who use extremes as ideological totems, is a fast track to losing all control, all credibility for yourself and your causes, all power, and your soul.

101 Sacred Plants  Mon, Mar 8, 2010 8:13:17am

Bedell carried a lizard totem?

!

102 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 8, 2010 10:50:01am
I’d just like to express my gratitude to the gods of the Internet that I’m not associated with irrational anti-science lunatics like Tim Blair any more.

Well, you have only yourself to credit for separating yourself from…oh, wait….

I think I see what you did there.


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