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Paul Coletti of the BBC’s Blogworld site interviewed me via webcam a few days ago, and the video is now up: BBC - Blogworld - Best International Blogs: USA: Charles Johnson.
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wrenchwench Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:51:09am |
Caught that on the retweet. Excellent. Nicely edited.
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:52:58am |
Let's hope the comments aren't just another backwash of stalkerluv.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:55:05am |
re: #2 Obdicut
Let's hope the comments aren't just another backwash of stalkerluv.
Since I posted it here, you can absolutely count on the stalkers showing up there.
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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:56:25am |
Two of my favorite sites all in one: BBC News and LGF!
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:56:46am |
re: #3 Charles
Since I posted it here, you can absolutely count on the stalkers showing up there.
I'd ask something along the lines of, "Don't these people have anything better to do?" Unfortunately, we all know the answer to that one.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:57:04am |
re: #3 Charles
Since I posted it here, you can absolutely count on the stalkers showing up there.
There are lovely hobbies out there. Crafts, sports, little mini-railroads and helicopters.
Anybody have a catalog or two we could send them.
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:58:40am |
re: #6 EmmmieG
Or even, say, posting on LGF in a reasonable and sane manner, disagreeing with Charles when you feel strongly, but not getting banned because you don't do it like an asshole.
That's another hobby they could have. But they lack the ability to do that.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:00:22am |
re: #3 Charles
Since I posted it here, you can absolutely count on the stalkers showing up there.
If you are taking fire, you are over the target.
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Soap_Man Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:04:22am |
re: #3 Charles
Since I posted it here, you can absolutely count on the stalkers showing up there.
Reminds me of something a coworker (a nice woman) said to another coworker (a nasty woman) during a weekly meeting.
"I take your hatred of me as a compliment. I should be thanking you, actually."
It really shut her up.
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:04:48am |
OT
More good news (unless you're a Talib):
Two missile strikes kill 12 in Pakistan
Money quote:
The bloodshed by militants has declined recently after spiking in late 2009, a reduction linked by officials to the suspected death – still not confirmed – of Taliban leader Hakimullah Mehsud and military offensives that have disrupted militant networks.
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BARACK THE VOTE Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:05:33am |
Heh, hadn't seen this (apologies if it's been mentioned here). Metzger over at Dangerous Minds even did a little post about the immediate influx of douchebags over there:
I refer you to the comments thread of this week’s Dangerous Minds interview with Charles Johnson, of Little Green Footballs. This afternoon Charles linked to the interview from his popular blog and within a matter of minutes people were posting about the interview both there and here. Some pro, some con (I get compared to Sean Hannity for instance!), but some just nasty and fairly pointless, such as one item (since deleted by us and not at the request of Charles, either) which managed to slip in both a homophobic epithet and a not-so-veiled death threat!
Charming.
As Charles replied “Welcome to my world! These are exactly the people I was talking about in the interview.” I sent him the IP address and in a matter of minutes he tracked the guy down and found several instances of his email address posted online elsewhere.
I remembered CJ posting about that guy and his IP; didn't realise Metzger had also posted about it.
Little Green Footballs Interview Gets Some Little Green Trolls
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Stanghazi Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:07:20am |
That was excellent.
I think one of the best outcomes of the blogosphere is that they have become the fact checkers.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:07:21am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:08:47am |
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darthstar Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:09:20am |
re: #14 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Now I'm pissed. They do not deserve to be called "green".
Puss colored? Maybe?
Trolls are festering boils on the sphincter of America.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:10:08am |
re: #16 darthstar
Trolls are festering boils on the sphincter of
Americathe interweaves.
They're everywhere.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:10:08am |
re: #16 darthstar
Trolls are festering boils on the sphincter of America.
+1 for the very, er, vivid imagery.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:10:12am |
Congratulations, Charles! The Beeb is still a classy outfit, and it's a big feather in your cap for them to name LGF one of the best international blogs.
Note to Pamz, the Borgmocrazees, et al.: international. As opposed to being a putrid little puddle of pond-dwelling pishers and putzes.
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:10:37am |
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BARACK THE VOTE Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:11:42am |
re: #14 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Now I'm pissed. They do not deserve to be called "green".
Puss colored? Maybe?
Agreed. Some of those haters have been banned for years and years. Probably longer than they were ever a part of this place. I've never seen anything like their obsessions.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:13:23am |
re: #19 Cato the Elder
Now, now. No need to go all Sabine on them.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:13:48am |
re: #19 Cato the Elder
Congratulations, Charles! The Beeb is still a classy outfit, and it's a big feather in your cap for them to name LGF one of the best international blogs.
Note to Pamz, the Borgmocrazees, et al.: international. As opposed to being a putrid little puddle of pond-dwelling pishers and putzes.
pond dwelling pishers and putzs... now that is some well done aliteration with proper use of Yiddish invective! As a quibble though, for maximum effect, you should say little pisher.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:15:51am |
Speaking of trolls and such nonsense...has there been any new feedback on Glenn Beck's 'smackdown' of Eric Massa yesterday? It's been almost 24 hours...plenty of time for the deluded to re-interpret the interview and put Beck back on his pedestal. I just hope he got flooded with emails supporting him and reassuring him that he took Massa to the woodshed...my fantasy is that he sat at his computer reading such nonsense and facepalmed himself so many times his skin turned red.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:16:48am |
re: #21 iceweasel
Agreed. Some of those haters have been banned for years and years. Probably longer than they were ever a part of this place. I've never seen anything like their obsessions.
"I'm NOT going to be igNORED!"
Alex Forrest, Fatal Attraction
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:18:15am |
re: #23 LudwigVanQuixote
pond dwelling pishers and putzs... now that is some well done aliteration with proper use of Yiddish invective! As a quibble though, for maximum effect, you should say little pisher.
That's understood.
I just changed my LGF motto to ceterum censeo stultitiam plebis mortifer inridendam esse.
"By the way, I believe the stupidity of the mob must be mocked to death."
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:18:28am |
re: #24 darthstar
I was actually impressed that Glenn admitted he didn't get anything but pablum. That he had wasted the viewer's time.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:18:51am |
re: #3 Charles
Since I posted it here, you can absolutely count on the stalkers showing up there.
Congrats... but help me here... videos don't stream well over my DSL up here, so, were is the information about the Best International Blog. I went to that BBC page, it's just a video. Is this info on the video.
I can't see it...
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SixDegrees Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:21:49am |
Gotta go watch last night's Lost episode. BBL.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:21:55am |
An interesting sidenote about the stalkers posting at Richard Metzger's site.
There was a certain LGF user who is now banned after a really nasty freak-out, who also liked to use the unusual word "myrmidon." He posted quite a few comments containing this word.
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prairiefire Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:22:58am |
Liked the close up of the blog page. Congratulations, Charles.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:23:11am |
re: #27 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I was actually impressed that Glenn admitted he didn't get anything but pablum. That he had wasted the viewer's time.
"For the first time" in his career...not that the weeks he spent decrying Fema prison camps wasn't a waste of viewers' time...no. Just failing to dig up dirt on the Administration was a waste of viewers time. What Beck saw was a mirror image of himself in Massa...someone competing with him on how to be a victim. That cat's been declawed. It'll be interesting to see if his future guests continue to leave him wanting.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:23:54am |
Shouldn't the BBC spell it "Little Green Foutballs"? :)
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Political Atheist Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:25:35am |
re: #3 Charles
Well I got in first or close to it. Now I have my nic at BBC! Kinda cool.
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RogueOne Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:26:17am |
re: #24 darthstar
Speaking of trolls and such nonsense...has there been any new feedback on Glenn Beck's 'smackdown' of Eric Massa yesterday? It's been almost 24 hours...plenty of time for the deluded to re-interpret the interview and put Beck back on his pedestal. I just hope he got flooded with emails supporting him and reassuring him that he took Massa to the woodshed...my fantasy is that he sat at his computer reading such nonsense and facepalmed himself so many times his skin turned red.
Morning Joe played a montage of slow-mo clips of Beck's reactions this morning. It was pretty funny.
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:26:19am |
re: #30 Charles
An interesting sidenote about the stalkers posting at Richard Metzger's site.
There was a certain LGF user who is now banned after a really nasty freak-out, who also liked to use the unusual word "myrmidon." He posted quite a few comments containing this word.
Main Entry: myr·mi·don
Pronunciation: ˈmər-mə-ˌdän, -dən
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English Mirmydon, Latin Myrmidon-, Myrmido, from Greek Myrmidōn
Date: 15th century1 capitalized : a member of a legendary Thessalian people who accompanied their king Achilles in the Trojan War
2 : a loyal follower; especially : a subordinate who executes orders unquestioningly or unscrupulously
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:27:39am |
re: #28 Walter L. Newton
Congrats... but help me here... videos don't stream well over my DSL up here, so, were is the information about the Best International Blog. I went to that BBC page, it's just a video. Is this info on the video.
I can't see it...
Never mind, found it in side bar on BBC website.
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_remembertonyc Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:27:46am |
good interview .... very measured and articulate ... maybe they'll have you back and you can help them understand why the BBC needs a "checkup from the neck up" vis-a-vis their coverage of the middle east. You could teach them a few things.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:29:12am |
Heh.
The ad directly below Charles's post is for a Master of Arts in Diplomacy from Norwich University.
Somehow I doubt my application would be viewed with favor.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:30:06am |
re: #35 Rightwingconspirator
Well I got in first or close to it. Now I have my nic at BBC! Kinda cool.
Your comment is still waiting moderation at the moment.
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researchok Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:30:17am |
re: #30 Charles
An interesting sidenote about the stalkers posting at Richard Metzger's site.
There was a certain LGF user who is now banned after a really nasty freak-out, who also liked to use the unusual word "myrmidon." He posted quite a few comments containing this word.
Stalkers are an obsessed lot- they're so much smarter than you but for some reason can't replicate your success.
Drives 'em crazy.
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:30:38am |
re: #40 Cato the Elder
Heh.
The ad directly below Charles's post is for a Master of Arts in Diplomacy from Norwich University.
Somehow I doubt my application would be viewed with favor.
Nonsense Cato, they might view you as quite the challenge.
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Political Atheist Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:31:23am |
re: #41 Decatur Deb
Yeah, I guess that takes a while. Moderation is good.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:31:30am |
OT - (it's getting better...)
Unemployment rises in 30 states in January
The data is somewhat better than December, when 43 states reported higher unemployment rates, but worse than November, when rates fell in most states.
Still, five states reported record-high joblessness in January: California, at 12.5 percent; South Carolina, 12.6 percent; Florida, 11.9 percent; North Carolina, 11.1 percent; and Georgia, 10.4 percent.
Michigan's unemployment rate is still the nation's highest, at 14.3 percent, followed by Nevada, with 13 percent and Rhode Island at 12.7 percent. South Carolina and California round out the top five.
There were some signs of job creation. Thirty-one states added jobs in January, up from only 11 in the previous month. But the job gains weren't enough, in many cases, to lower the unemployment rate.
For example, California reported the largest job gains, of 32,500, though its unemployment rate also rose. Illinois, New York, Washington state and Minnesota reported the next highest totals of new jobs.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
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darthstar Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:31:47am |
re: #36 RogueOne
Morning Joe played a montage of slow-mo clips of Beck's reactions this morning. It was pretty funny.
Heh...when Beck loses Joe Scarborough, you know he's in deep shit with the nutters.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:31:56am |
re: #40 Cato the Elder
Heh.
The ad directly below Charles's post is for a Master of Arts in Diplomacy from Norwich University.
Somehow I doubt my application would be viewed with favor.
Not after "pond dwelling pishers".
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BARACK THE VOTE Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:32:49am |
re: #30 Charles
An interesting sidenote about the stalkers posting at Richard Metzger's site.
There was a certain LGF user who is now banned after a really nasty freak-out, who also liked to use the unusual word "myrmidon." He posted quite a few comments containing this word.
Butthurt Monkey is Butthurt.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:33:13am |
re: #44 Rightwingconspirator
Yeah, I guess that takes a while. Moderation is good.
Did you call anyone a "pond dwelling pisher"?
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Velvet Elvis Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:34:21am |
Herer's an interesting perspective on Beck vs Massa from Michael Scherer of Time
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blueraven Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:39:45am |
re: #27 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I was actually impressed that Glenn admitted he didn't get anything but pablum. That he had wasted the viewer's time.
I think he had no choice as it was painfully evident. The problem is that he is so desperate to find dirt on the WH he will do anything to advance that meme.
Desperation is ugly.
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simoom Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:40:20am |
(cnet) Drudge Report accused of serving malware, again
For the second time in less than six months, visitors to the Drudge Report say they got malware in addition to the Web site's usual sensational headlines.Matt Drudge denied that his site was infecting visitors, however it's likely that the malware is coming from ads delivered by a third-party ad network and not the site itself.
...
A spokesperson for the Senate committee said officials were looking at Drudge Report and WhitePages.com as possible sources of the malware that affected Senate computers."The Senate Help Desk, in discussing a recent increase in the number of virus infections in Senate computers, mentioned that it might be associated with pop-up ads appearing through certain websites, and they cited DrudgeReport.com and WhitePages.com as possible examples," the spokesperson said in an e-mail statement. "Our non-partisan systems administrator notified both Majority and Minority staff that this issue had been brought to her attention. It is still not exactly clear where the increase in viruses is coming from, and staff have been advised to be cautious with outside Web sites at all times."
From Fox's writeup on the story:
"I suspect somebody was trying to make it look as if there's a virus there to discourage people from using Drudge," Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Okla., told CNSNews.com. "Then, somehow, I guess someone in the Capitol got a hold of it and said, yes, we are advising you not to use it."Inhofe said Drudge is a "great source" and encouraged people to continue using it.
His words of assurance came after the Senate Sergeant-at-Arms, the chamber's official gatekeeper, said the Drudge Report, a news aggregator, and whitepages.com, a telephone directory site, "are responsible for the many viruses popping up throughout the Senate," according to an e-mail from the Environment and Public Works Committee obtained by FoxNews.com.
Another e-mail from a separate office warned that staffers who had visited the Drudge Report or White Pages had experienced viruses on their PCs.
"Please avoid using these sites until the Senate resolves this issue," the e-mail read. "The Senate has been swamped the last couples (sic) days with this issue."
But Inhofe suggested political motivations were behind the e-mails.
"The liberals, the extremists, they don't want the information that [Matt Drudge] has because he's a man of truth and most of them don't want the truth," Inhofe said.
Matt Drudge, "man of truth." :P
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Political Atheist Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:43:34am |
re: #54 simoom
I think that is a made up lie. Drudge is no threat to anyone browsing except tribal partisans. (but that's just a headache, not a virus)
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Decatur Deb Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:44:52am |
re: #54 simoom
(cnet) Drudge Report accused of serving malware, again
Matt Drudge, "man of truth." :P
Inhofe said Drudge is a "great source" and encouraged people to continue using it.
His words of assurance came after the Senate Sergeant-at-Arms, the chamber's official gatekeeper, said the Drudge Report, a news aggregator, and whitepages.com, a telephone directory site, "are responsible for the many viruses popping up throughout the Senate," according to an e-mail from the Environment and Public Works Committee obtained by FoxNews.com.
And Sen Inhofe encourages spread of the e-clap.
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BARACK THE VOTE Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:45:45am |
re: #56 Decatur Deb
And Sen Inhofe encourages spread of the e-clap.
In this case I'm perfectly happy to recommend abstinence as the solution./
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RogueOne Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:46:27am |
re: #54 simoom
Seems like I've heard of Whitepages.com having this problem at least once before.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:47:52am |
re: #57 iceweasel
In this case I'm perfectly happy to recommend abstinence as the solution./
Or a better class of brothel.
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:47:53am |
re: #3 Charles
Since I posted it here, you can absolutely count on the stalkers showing up there.
Maybe the BBC will be stricter with them than Mr. Metzger is. The Beeb having an actual staff and everything.
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ryannon Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:48:22am |
re: #33 Mad Al-Jaffee
Shouldn't the BBC spell it "Little Green Foutballs"? :)
You've just made an incredible French/English pun.
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BARACK THE VOTE Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:48:41am |
re: #59 Decatur Deb
Or a better class of brothel.
So long as it includes abstaining from Drudge, I say, let a hundred flowers bloom.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:49:50am |
Sorry OT - I'm afraid I'll forget to share if I wait.
awesome pix of the day -- not Zooborns.
bbin a short while.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:50:03am |
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:51:01am |
re: #11 Shiplord Kirel
OT
More good news (unless you're a Talib):
Two missile strikes kill 12 in Pakistan
Money quote:
48 hour rule. Hope there's a LiveLeak infrared video to be seen eventually, though, if it's for real.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:52:10am |
re: #30 Charles
An interesting sidenote about the stalkers posting at Richard Metzger's site.
There was a certain LGF user who is now banned after a really nasty freak-out, who also liked to use the unusual word "myrmidon." He posted quite a few comments containing this word.
There's a syndicated Radio Talk Show host that has uses that term regularly. Perhaps the ex-Lizard is/was a listener
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Stanghazi Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:53:34am |
Ah, Limbaugh backtracks. Says he only meant he'd go to Costa Rica for medical treatment, not actually move there.
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:53:54am |
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BARACK THE VOTE Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:55:48am |
re: #67 Stanley Sea
Ah, Limbaugh backtracks. Says he only meant he'd go to Costa Rica for medical treatment, not actually move there.
HA! from your link:
What is ironic about Limbaugh — who has ranted about the dangers of “socialized health care” for years — seeking health care in Costa Rica is that the country has a hybrid government-private health care system that provides comprehensive universal coverage to all of its residents. The government owns several major public hospitals and operates small clinics in almost every community. Workers are required to contribute 15% of their salaries to health insurance and the unemployed “obtain public funding for all health services, including prescription drugs.” Most Costa Ricans obtain their health care through a public plan called the Caja — similar to our Medicare or the proposed public option.
Costa Rica’s system of universal coverage is so effective that it actually ranks one slot above the United States in the World Health Organization’s ranking of health systems worldwide while actually spending less per capita than we do. Does Limbaugh’s threat to seek health care on Costa Rica mean that the radio host is endorsing a similar system for the United States?
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Charles Johnson Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:56:08am |
re: #66 sattv4u2
There's a syndicated Radio Talk Show host that has uses that term regularly. Perhaps the ex-Lizard is/was a listener
I have absolutely no doubt about who that is. And he's also been sending obscene harassing emails for months.
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:56:24am |
re: #67 Stanley Sea
But they have Universal Health care! Isn't he afraid of the Death Panels?
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sattv4u2 Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:56:47am |
re: #70 Charles
I have absolutely no doubt about who that is. And he's also been sending obscene harassing emails for months.
The Radio Host ,, or the ex-Lizard???
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Charles Johnson Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:57:21am |
re: #72 sattv4u2
The Radio Host ,, or the ex-Lizard???
It's the person who posted the comment I linked above.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:58:55am |
re: #73 Charles
It's the person who posted the comment I linked above.
K,,,, just got nervous there for a second thinking the talk host was obcsenely e-mailing you!! NOT that is makes it any better that the ex-poster is!
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BARACK THE VOTE Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:02:10pm |
More Census fear-mongering, from everyone's least favourite Teletubby, Blah-Blah:
Beck: The Census Is The Government’s Attempt To ‘Increase Slavery’
He took particular issue with a question asking for the respondent’s race. But after Beck’s co-host pointed out that the question has been part of the Census since the Founding Fathers’ time, Beck twisted the three-fifths law to claim that the Census is now breeding slavery:
BECK: Why were they asking the race question, you said when, in 1790? … Right, they want to know, do you count as three-fifths? Do you count at all? So, you have to know how many slaves did you have? People find that offensive today because the idea was, if we’re going to count, we want to know how many are here for services etc. etc. and slaves would get less. Well that’s not right. One. One. ‘I’m not three-fifths, I’m one. Whites are not worth than me.’ Now reverse it, why are they asking this question today?
CO-HOST: Because minorities are worth more than whites.
BECK: Exactly right. So you will get more dollars if you are a minority. So you are worth more as a monitory. Well there is no difference. The reason you don’t answer the race question is because one, everyone counts as one. All men are created equal. If you were offended back in 1790 about slavery and that everyone should count the same, do not answer the race question. How dare you. How dare you. At least in 1790, they were doing it to slow the South down on slavery. To try to stop it as much as they can. Today they are asking the race question to try to increase slavery. Your dependence on the master in Washington. No way, don’t answer that question.
[...]
So does Beck think the Census has a “deep seated hatred of white people or white culture”?
Transcript and audio at link.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:03:21pm |
re: #70 Charles
I have absolutely no doubt about who that is. And he's also been sending obscene harassing emails for months.
Isn't the internet wonderful? If it wasn't for the internet, he probably would have keyed your car months ago...then again, he would have been happy after that and gone about his merry way.
BTW, I had a run-in with an old-school stalker a few years back. He slashed the tires on my car...three times. Always two tires, so I couldn't just put on a spare and had to call a tow-truck. 250 bucks a tire, too. Guy was a major league asshole. He'd panicked at an intersection and laid his Harley down after coming to a full stop 20 feet from me. I just decided spending 1500 bucks on tires was better than dealing with him again, and moved to another neighborhood (not because of him), and the tire slashing stopped.
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Virginia Plain Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:03:33pm |
re: #76 iceweasel
He's not making sense about this one.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:04:10pm |
re: #76 iceweasel
More Census fear-mongering, from everyone's least favourite Teletubby, Blah-Blah:
Beck: The Census Is The Government’s Attempt To ‘Increase Slavery’Transcript and audio at link.
Glenn Beck is a desperate asshole. Channeling Michele Bachmann isn't going to make him sound any less desperate.
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BARACK THE VOTE Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:05:30pm |
re: #79 darthstar
Glenn Beck is a desperate asshole. Channeling Michele Bachmann isn't going to make him sound any less desperate.
That specific campaign about the census-- "Don't answer the question about race!" now has its own facebook page and is endorsed by none other than NRO.
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BARACK THE VOTE Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:06:43pm |
re: #80 iceweasel
That specific campaign about the census-- "Don't answer the question about race!" now has its own facebook page and is endorsed by none other than NRO.
Specifically Mark Krikorian on the 8th: (no link)
Instead, we should answer Question 9 by checking the last option — "Some other race" — and writing in "American." It's a truthful answer but at the same time is a way for ordinary citizens to express their rejection of unconstitutional racial classification schemes. In fact, "American" was the plurality ancestry selection for respondents to the 2000 census in four states and several hundred counties.
So remember: Question 9 — "Some other race" — "American". Pass it on.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:07:57pm |
re: #81 iceweasel
"American" is a nationality, not a race. Are these people fucked in the head or what?
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badger1970 Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:08:01pm |
re: #76 iceweasel
All the census is going to show is another trend of people moving out of bad-weather, high-tax states.
Beck occasionally may be proverbial blind squirrel who eventually finds an acorn but he'll digging the entire yard up to find it. Beck is Beck, a complete and utter -hole who gets tv time.
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BARACK THE VOTE Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:09:03pm |
re: #82 darthstar
"American" is a nationality, not a race. Are these people fucked in the head or what?
You get the idea, though. The not-very sub-text here is that hyphenated americans aren't american.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:11:35pm |
re: #84 iceweasel
You get the idea, though. The not-very sub-text here is that hyphenated americans aren't american.
The US Census bureau can easily handle this, however. If someone writes in "American", they can pretty safely assume that they mean 'White/Caucasian' and they can also disregard any claims of college education (attendance, maybe, but education, no).
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Bagua Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:12:47pm |
Over at Dangerous Minds
Mar 10, 2010
Bagua says:Quite right reine.
I am another case in point. I frequently disagree with Charles on the subject of AGW and from time to time on other issues as well, yet my account remains active and I remain a member of the forum.
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Stanghazi Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:12:54pm |
re: #85 darthstar
The US Census bureau can easily handle this, however. If someone writes in "American", they can pretty safely assume that they mean 'White/Caucasian' and they can also disregard any claims of college education (attendance, maybe, but education, no).
Ding ding ding!!
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Charles Johnson Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:13:33pm |
re: #82 darthstar
"American" is a nationality, not a race. Are these people fucked in the head or what?
The idiots who plan to write "American" in the slot for their racial heritage are only defeating themselves. The figures compiled by the census are used to determine what kinds of government programs will be funded, and for whom.
The vast majority of these idiots are white right wingers. So by refusing to fill out the census form correctly, they're ensuring that they will be further marginalized.
Brilliant.
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simoom Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:13:40pm |
An article on Jerry Falwell's Liberty University biology students' yearly fieldtrip to the Natural History Museum:
[Link: au.news.yahoo.com...]
They plan to become doctors, researchers and professors, but these students from Liberty University, an evangelical school, also believe God created the Earth in a week, some 6,000 years ago.Each year, a group of biology students at the Christian university based in Lynchburg, Virginia, travels to the Natural History Museum in Washington to learn about a theory they dismiss as incorrect -- Darwin's theory of evolution.
...
Lauren Dunn, 19, a second-year biology student, was unimpressed."210 million years, that's arbitrary. They put that time to make up for what they don't know," she said.
Nathan Hubbard, a 20-year-old from Michigan and a first-year biology major who plans to become a doctor, regarded the model with suspicion.
"There is no scientific, biological genetic way that this, this rat, could become you," he said, seemingly scandalized by the proposition.
Liberty University is the most prominent evangelical university in the United States, with some 12,000 students who adhere to strict rules and regulations regarding moral conduct.
Its biology curriculum includes a course on "Young Earth Creationism", which juxtaposes Charles Darwin's "Origin of the Species" with the Book of Genesis.
"In order to be the best creationist, you have to be the best evolutionist you can be," said Marcus Ross, who teaches paleontology and says of Adam and Eve: "I feel they were real people, they were the first people."
Here's a video of the trip with student and professor reactions:
[Link: www.clipsyndicate.com...]
I've excerpted a few:
"Fairytale.""God created Giraffe's as a kind of animal and they had those genes already there."
"The bones that we're looking at were deposited toward the late stages of Noah's flood and that would put them at about four-and-a-half, five thousand years ago.
(h/t rightwingwatch)
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Kragar Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:16:07pm |
Man, way too much work at work lately. Not the look at the web while I work work, more of the run around the office and check paperwork work, ug.
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simoom Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:16:20pm |
re: #89 simoom
"God created Giraffe's as a kind of animal and they had those genes already there."
Oops, that should be "giraffes" not "Giraffe's" :P.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:16:48pm |
re: #89 simoom
An article on Jerry Falwell's Liberty University biology students' yearly fieldtrip to the Natural History Museum:
[Link: au.news.yahoo.com...]
Products of evangelical homeschooling, carrying on the proud traditions of their parents.
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RogueOne Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:17:47pm |
re: #85 darthstar
The US Census bureau can easily handle this, however. If someone writes in "American", they can pretty safely assume that they mean 'White/Caucasian' and they can also disregard any claims of college education (attendance, maybe, but education, no).
You can count me in with the college educated who dislike hyphens. We're all Americans. We might all be different races (one of the beautiful things about this country) but no one packs up all their shit, leaves their families and homelands behind and travels here (some risking life and limb) to put a hyphen in their nationality.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:18:27pm |
re: #89 simoom
An article on Jerry Falwell's Liberty University biology students' yearly fieldtrip to the Natural History Museum:
[Link: au.news.yahoo.com...](h/t rightwingwatch)
Nathan Hubbard, "future doctor"? Good luck with your MCAT, dumb-fuck.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:18:32pm |
re: #88 Charles
A self-fulfilling prophecy.
"See! I told you teh gubmint won't listen to us!"
"Shit dude, we didn't even know you were there."
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:18:51pm |
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SixDegrees Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:19:31pm |
re: #88 Charles
The idiots who plan to write "American" in the slot for their racial heritage are only defeating themselves. The figures compiled by the census are used to determine what kinds of government programs will be funded, and for whom.
The vast majority of these idiots are white right wingers. So by refusing to fill out the census form correctly, they're ensuring that they will be further marginalized.
Brilliant.
On a related note: NPR reported today that there is no racial category listed that corresponds to "Arab." Arab Americans are not happy about this, and have started a campaign to check the "Other" box and write in "Arab" or "Arab American" in the slot.
The Census bureau is actively encouraging this effort, according to the reporter.
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:20:14pm |
I guess if there was a way to limit creationist doctors to only treating creationist patients you could just let it go. And then you realize that children will be involved in the situation...
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freetoken Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:20:21pm |
re: #89 simoom
Story got wide play via AFP last night.
On the one hand it is a European look at those primitive Americans... yet it does hit home.
I've been thinking more about this lately, trying to form a better understanding of why it is such an important topic. This is leading me to the idea that the outward, social manifestation of inner, personal existential angst probably shapes more of our collective lives than I've appreciated before.
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:20:58pm |
re: #94 RogueOne
I have no problem with people proudly proclaiming their heritage, and it is not opposed to being American.
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:21:50pm |
re: #30 Charles
An interesting sidenote about the stalkers posting at Richard Metzger's site.
There was a certain LGF user who is now banned after a really nasty freak-out, who also liked to use the unusual word "myrmidon." He posted quite a few comments containing this word.
Myrmidon, a king of Thessalian Phthia who was a son of Zeus and "wide-ruling" Eurymedousa, a princess of Phthia. She was seduced by him in the form of an ant.
Ant-fucking, now that is kinky.
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Soap_Man Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:22:00pm |
re: #89 simoom
Nathan Hubbard, a 20-year-old from Michigan and a first-year biology major who plans to become a doctor, regarded the model with suspicion.
Remind me to ask any doctor I see where they got their undergrad.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:22:39pm |
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:22:55pm |
re: #93 Charles
Products of evangelical homeschooling, carrying on the proud traditions of their parents.
Some of them likely came from private religious schools, too. I still believe that the average output of a Liberty University is far more damaging than the average output of a religious-tinged homeschooling experience.
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Kragar Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:23:00pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:24:52pm |
re: #102 Alouette
Brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "Needle-dick bug fucker".
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RogueOne Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:25:08pm |
re: #101 Obdicut
I have no problem with people proudly proclaiming their heritage, and it is not opposed to being American.
I don't have a problem with that either but when I hear some asswipe state proudly that he's an "italian-american" or a "greek-american" and then you find out they've never even been close to visiting their homeland....well, I find it annoying. Most of the people like that I've run into are just looking for a way to fit into a group when their ancestors already chose to come join the best group on the planet.
USA,USA! etc, etc.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:25:15pm |
re: #100 freetoken
sorry, you said 'collective' and my vision darkened...let me read that again//
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Charles Johnson Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:25:56pm |
re: #105 Aceofwhat?
Some of them likely came from private religious schools, too. I still believe that the average output of a Liberty University is far more damaging than the average output of a religious-tinged homeschooling experience.
Liberty University is huge booster of homeschooling. They offer homeschooling courses themselves that teach creationism.
I haven't found any actual figures, but it's a pretty safe bet that a very large percentage of people who end up at Liberty U were homeschooled.
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A Man for all Seasons Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:26:14pm |
Speaking of Census forms
I received mine yesterday...Haven't opened it up yet...10 questions huh?
Piece of cake...
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Kragar Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:26:41pm |
re: #111 HoosierHoops
Speaking of Census forms
I received mine yesterday...Haven't opened it up yet...10 questions huh?
Piece of cake...
The cake is a lie.
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:26:48pm |
re: #106 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
As opposed to Aunt fucking, which is illegal in most states.
Not to mention that it's one of the forbidden relationships in that very nasty chapter of Leviticus.
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Guanxi88 Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:27:03pm |
re: #107 Slumbering Behemoth
Brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "Needle-dick bug fucker".
It has more than one? Sweet!
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Charles Johnson Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:28:25pm |
And now look who shows up at Richard Metzger's site -- one of the freaks who's been stalking me for years. Losing his LGF account was a defining moment in this psycho's life.
[Link: www.dangerousminds.net...]
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A Man for all Seasons Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:28:33pm |
re: #113 Alouette
Not to mention that it's one of the forbidden relationships in that very nasty chapter of Leviticus.
Oh do tell!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:28:50pm |
re: #111 HoosierHoops
Speaking of Census forms
I received mine yesterday...Haven't opened it up yet...10 questions huh?
Piece of cake...
Wait, I thought there was supposed to be volumes of intrusive questions. If I only get ten on mine, I am gonna feel ripped off.
/Bachmann! You lied to me!
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:29:02pm |
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Guanxi88 Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:31:26pm |
re: #119 Mad Al-Jaffee
The frogurt is also cursed.
A Sandwich Forged in darkness from wheat harvested in Hell's half-acre. Baked by Beelzebub. Slathered with mayonnaise from the evil eggs of dark chicken forces beaten into sauce by the hands of a one-eyed madman. Cheese boiled from the rancid teat of a fanged cow. Layered with 666 separate meats from an animal which has maggots for blood.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:31:31pm |
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:31:39pm |
IIRC, frogurt is a prog food... until you add the free topping!
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Soap_Man Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:32:22pm |
re: #118 Slumbering Behemoth
Wait, I thought there was supposed to be volumes of intrusive questions. If I only get ten on mine, I am gonna feel ripped off.
/Bachmann! You lied to me!
See, what happened is that great Americans like Bachmann spoke up and scared the Socialist Regime to back down. She was right because they were going to pry into your personal lives, but thankfully, freedom was saved. It was just like the school speech. He was going to brainwash the children, but backed down when good freedom loving patriots spoke out.
// (Is this necessary?)
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Kragar Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:32:37pm |
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:33:32pm |
re: #123 Soap_Man
SNIP
// (Is this necessary?)
Yes. Otherwise you'd confuse the Red Wing fans.
// ;)
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:33:44pm |
re: #115 Charles
And now look who shows up at Richard Metzger's site -- one of the freaks who's been stalking me for years. Losing his LGF account was a defining moment in this psycho's life.
[Link: www.dangerousminds.net...]
Damn, what messed up people.
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RogueOne Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:34:15pm |
re: #85 darthstar
BTW, have you tried the swype keyboard beta? I'm seriously digging it.
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Stanghazi Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:34:24pm |
re: #123 Soap_Man
See, what happened is that great Americans like Bachmann spoke up and scared the Socialist Regime to back down. She was right because they were going to pry into your personal lives, but thankfully, freedom was saved. It was just like the school speech. He was going to brainwash the children, but backed down when good freedom loving patriots spoke out.
// (Is this necessary?)
I had better get the long form! I want to be pried into.
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torrentprime Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:34:31pm |
re: #98 SixDegrees
On a related note: NPR reported today that there is no racial category listed that corresponds to "Arab." Arab Americans are not happy about this, and have started a campaign to check the "Other" box and write in "Arab" or "Arab American" in the slot.
The Census bureau is actively encouraging this effort, according to the reporter.
In similar "agitating minorities" news, I have some stickers from queerthecensus.org, and I'll be attaching one to the back of my census form.
(Did they really have to make the sticker lavender? Sigh...)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:35:28pm |
re: #126 Varek Raith
Severe daddy issues. I can think of no other reason for such obsessive nonsense.
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RogueOne Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:35:48pm |
re: #129 torrentprime
In similar "agitating minorities" news, I have some stickers from queerthecensus.org, and I'll be attaching one to the back of my census form.
(Did they really have to make the sticker lavender? Sigh...)
FTA:
We know it's a little clichéd – but here's what we want to tell the census: We're here. We're queer. And we want you to ask us about it.
What is it you want me to ask about it?
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freetoken Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:36:32pm |
Speaking of creationism, banana-man is still at it:
27,000 Free Copies of Darwin's Famous Book Given Away to Coincide with Richard Dawkin's Meetings
New Zealand born author, Ray Comfort (who lives in the United States) said, "I will be interested to see if the Professor once again reveals how afraid he is for people to read the Foreword, by telling them to rip it out--as he did in Canada recently."
In November of 2009, Comfort gave away 170,000 copies of On the Origin of Species to students at 100 of America's top universities. His team will also be giving away 1,000 free copies of Darwin's famous book as people leave the Christchurch Town Hall, New Zealand, on March 11, after listening to atheist Richard Dawkins. A total of 26,000 copies of the more than 300-page special edition of, On the Origin of Species were given out in Melbourne, Brisbane, Auckland and Wellington on the 9th of March--at each to coincide with Richard Dawkins speaking.
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:36:34pm |
I see that "Vampire-American" is not on my Census form...
Outrageous outrage!
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:37:44pm |
This is pretty cool.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:37:45pm |
re: #131 RogueOne
What is it you want me to ask about it?
Can i ask a question about the apparent fondness for lavender?/
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Guanxi88 Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:37:55pm |
re: #133 Varek Raith
I see that "Vampire-American" is not on my Census form...
Outrageous outrage!
Well, in fairness, though, think about how many times each individual vampire gets counted.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:38:15pm |
re: #106 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
As opposed to Aunt fucking, which is illegal in most states.
If Salma Hayek was my aunt, I would break the law.
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simoom Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:38:44pm |
The Texas Education Agency goes after Fox News TX textbook rabble-rousing:
[Link: www.tea.state.tx.us...]
Fox inaccurately reporting State Board of Education actionThe Fox Network in recent days has repeatedly broadcast highly inaccurate information about the State Board of Education’s efforts to adopt the new social studies curriculum standards.
Here are the facts. The direct quotes come from the March 10 broadcast of Fox & Friends.
The press release then goes on to dispute a number of Fox & Freinds scare quotes, responding that Christmas, Independence Day, and Veterans Day will, in fact, still be in the standards, as will Abe Lincoln, George Washington and U.S. history prior to 1877.
In related news, the Common Core State Standards Initiative has released their proposed national education standards today:
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
Culminating a year’s work, a panel of educators convened by the nation’s governors and state school superintendents released a set of proposed common academic standards on Wednesday. The standards, posted on the panel’s web site, lay out the panel’s vision of what American public school students should learn in math and English, year by year, from kindergarten to high school graduation.Forty-eight states cooperated in producing the proposed standards, which amount to a new road map for American public education. If a majority of states were to adopt them over the next few months, which experts said was a growing possibility, the new standards would replace the nation’s motley current checkerboard of locally written standards, which vary greatly in content and sophistication. And adoption of the new standards would set off a vast new effort to rewrite textbooks and standardized tests.
...
The National Governors Association and the Council of Chief State School Officers set the common-standards initiative in motion early last year, convening panels of English and math experts from the College Board, A.C.T., and from Achieve, Inc., a group that has been working with states for years to upgrade their high school graduation standards.Alaska and Texas are the only states not participating in the standards-writing effort. In keeping his state out of the movement, Gov. Rick Perry argued that only Texans should decide what children there learn.
The Obama Administration quickly endorsed the effort. Under the Department of Education’s Race to the Top initiative, in which states are competing for a share of $4 billion in school improvement money, states can earn 40 points of the possible 500 for participating in the common effort and adopting the new standards.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:38:51pm |
re: #26 Cato the Elder
That's understood.
I just changed my LGF motto to ceterum censeo stultitiam plebis mortifer inridendam esse.
"By the way, I believe the stupidity of the mob must be mocked to death."
And now your training is complete.. Welcome to the dark side :)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:39:35pm |
re: #133 Varek Raith
I see that "Vampire-American" is not on my Census form...
Outrageous outrage!
It's covered by "Celestial Illumination Challenged-American".
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:39:54pm |
re: #133 Varek Raith
I see that "Vampire-American" is not on my Census form...
Outrageous outrage!
Yeah well they piss on the rights of mages too! If I want to transmute lead into gold in the privacy of my own home, then so be it!
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Guanxi88 Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:41:19pm |
re: #141 LudwigVanQuixote
If I want to transmute lead into gold in the privacy of my own home, then so be it!
Now THAT sounds like a great hobby.
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Kragar Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:41:33pm |
re: #139 LudwigVanQuixote
And now your training is complete.. Welcome to the dark side :)
Mockery is its own reward.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:41:42pm |
re: #115 Charles
And now look who shows up at Richard Metzger's site -- one of the freaks who's been stalking me for years. Losing his LGF account was a defining moment in this psycho's life.
[Link: www.dangerousminds.net...]
Charles I hate to say this, but look on the bright side of just how much impact you have! I guarantee that person think about you and what you say more than he does any teacher or preacher he has ever met.
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:41:51pm |
re: #126 Varek Raith
Though the last post in that earlier Rachel Corrie thread is exactly why I wasn't a part of this forum back then. I'm glad he decided to start cracking down on shit like that.
However, I'm a member now. The stalkers seem completely stuck in the past, and when they view the present, it's only to scream, "You've changed, Charlie, you've changed!"
Yeah. That's what humans do.
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:41:57pm |
re: #141 LudwigVanQuixote
Yeah well they piss on the rights of mages too! If I want to transmute lead into gold in the privacy of my own home, then so be it!
Oh, a mage are ya? What's it like having those annoying Templars constantly watching your every move?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:42:04pm |
re: #141 LudwigVanQuixote
Just hook up with one of Beck's advertisers, it's much easier that way.
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Guanxi88 Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:42:28pm |
re: #146 Varek Raith
Oh, a mage are ya? What's it like having those annoying Templars constantly watching your every move?
I imagine it's the same as it is for the rest of us.
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:42:39pm |
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Kragar Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:44:04pm |
re: #149 Alouette
I am surprised they left out Judges chapter 19.
They had to go with the short list.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:44:08pm |
re: #143 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Mockery is its own reward.
An interesting not BTW to all those who wish to educate me on my debating tactics when I get cranky. It is not that I fail to see that perception of the speaker is frequently more important than the facts (s)he presents. It is rather a protest against such stupidity.
At the end of the day calling stupid, stupid - when backed by facts, has a much stronger effect than trying to reason with those who reject reason.
If enough people did this, it would no longer be cool for weak betas to join whatever mob.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:44:12pm |
re: #127 RogueOne
BTW, have you tried the swype keyboard beta? I'm seriously digging it.
No, but I'll check it out now...thanks!
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:45:06pm |
re: #146 Varek Raith
Oh, a mage are ya? What's it like having those annoying Templars constantly watching your every move?
Nah, Templars are fun sport, and I have a an untainted dragon baby on the way.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:45:54pm |
re: #146 Varek Raith
Once you fully commit yourself to that final, ultimate step into the Arcane, the Templars just become like so many mosquitoes.
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RogueOne Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:46:45pm |
My ex-wife just sent me a "happy ex-anniversary" text. Wonder what she wants.
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:47:08pm |
re: #155 RogueOne
My ex-wife just sent me a "happy ex-anniversary" text. Wonder what she wants.
Your soul?
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:47:26pm |
re: #150 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
They had to go with the short list.
That should have been on the short list.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:47:28pm |
re: #151 LudwigVanQuixote
An interesting not BTW to all those who wish to educate me on my debating tactics when I get cranky. It is not that I fail to see that perception of the speaker is frequently more important than the facts (s)he presents. It is rather a protest against such stupidity.
At the end of the day calling stupid, stupid - when backed by facts, has a much stronger effect than trying to reason with those who reject reason.
If enough people did this, it would no longer be cool for weak betas to join whatever mob.
I gently disagree. I would posit that it makes it much harder for someone to be open to new facts and return to admit they were wrong. Such admissions are hard enough, and only become harder in the face of tactics like the ones you describe.
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Guanxi88 Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:47:46pm |
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:48:22pm |
re: #155 RogueOne
My ex-wife just sent me a "happy ex-anniversary" text. Wonder what she wants.
Nuthin good
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darthstar Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:48:40pm |
re: #127 RogueOne
BTW, have you tried the swype keyboard beta? I'm seriously digging it.
Damn...they closed the Beta program due to too much demand...I'll have to wait.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:49:21pm |
re: #149 Alouette
I am surprised they left out Judges chapter 19.
Yeah that is for sure.
This is one place where I just have to shake my head. When people get up in arms about sexuality in the Bible and think that the repressive views of some sets represent the sum total of biblical thought on the matter. There is a difference between taking the view that sexuality should be something important and that it should be with someone you love and are married to - but otherwise a blessing and a really good thing! - and taking the stance of "please ban my genitals."
For the record, the original view of sex in the bible is that it is a blessing, that you are not unholy for doing it (with your spouse), that it exists for her pleasure, not to make babies, and if you are a guy, it is assumed you will enjoy yourself in general, ( that is actually to make certain you take care of her).
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wrenchwench Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:51:36pm |
re: #115 Charles
And now look who shows up at Richard Metzger's site -- one of the freaks who's been stalking me for years. Losing his LGF account was a defining moment in this psycho's life.
[Link: www.dangerousminds.net...]
Some of them were stupid when they got here, but apparently all of the stalkers got more stupid after they left.
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RogueOne Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:51:53pm |
re: #159 Guanxi88
re: #160 Aceofwhat?
We were married for 1 year only and only because I insisted on sticking it out a whole year. We both had great jobs, 2 new cars, all new furniture, appliances, etc., etc. I told her she could take it all. Replacing all my stuff was a lot cheaper than putting up with anymore of her crap. I actually have photo's of me loading all that crap up in a moving truck, by myself, while smiling ear to ear.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:52:08pm |
re: #155 RogueOne
My ex-wife just sent me a "happy ex-anniversary" text. Wonder what she wants.
Pie?
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:52:12pm |
re: #146 Varek Raith
By the way Varek, I blame you for me mis-reading a Arlen Spector ad as that for an undead spectre roaming Pennsylvania extracting energy levels from voters. :p
Maybe the next step is equipping polling places with special UV illumination to keep the undead vote under control...
/
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Jack Burton Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:52:39pm |
re: #155 RogueOne
My ex-wife just sent me a "happy ex-anniversary" text. Wonder what she wants.
Is that the anniversary of the date your divorce was final?
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RogueOne Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:53:06pm |
re: #161 darthstar
Damn...they closed the Beta program due to too much demand...I'll have to wait.
I really like it. Now I can text and drive. It's my right as an american to put the people around me at risk.
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:54:07pm |
re: #168 RogueOne
I really like it. Now I can text and drive. It's my right as an american to put the people around me at risk.
Tried that excuse with my doomsday weapons. Didn't work.
:(
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:54:09pm |
re: #149 Alouette
It does hit on one of my favorite points:
The Bible is silent about female masturbation. Unless you engage in creative interpretation.
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RogueOne Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:54:13pm |
re: #167 ArchangelMichael
Is that the anniversary of the date your divorce was final?
No, our wedding anniversary. Both of our birthdays and our wedding anniversary fell within one week. Luckily, I only had to do that once.
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simoom Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:54:47pm |
Ha! The volume control on that BBC video player goes up to 11 :D!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:54:48pm |
Wow, Corey Haim is dead. Bummer.
R.I.P., dude.
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Guanxi88 Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:54:58pm |
re: #169 Varek Raith
Tried that excuse with my doomsday weapons. Didn't work.
:(
Fools! You'll destroy them all!
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:55:51pm |
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:55:53pm |
re: #158 Aceofwhat?
I gently disagree. I would posit that it makes it much harder for someone to be open to new facts and return to admit they were wrong. Such admissions are hard enough, and only become harder in the face of tactics like the ones you describe.
Call it carrot and stick. There have to be limits on both sides.
I am not advocating just coming out and swinging unless the person is saying the absolute worst things. I am advocating not being afraid to call things as they are.
Let's put it like this. Self delusion is strong. It is very strong.
If you are denying plain facts over and over then it is a mtter of psychology to get through it. When you take a soft stance you enable the self deception.
If someone were honestly called a drinker and honestly told they have a serious problem when they do (and sorry a case of beer every evening is not a few drinks) you might just save their lives. Saying it is possibly too many drinks or that maybe they should watch it only invites that "they are fine."
If someone were honestly and without malice described as fat -or obese rather than burly or curvy or a few pounds over (sorry, 50-75 lbs over is not a few pounds) then you do them the favor of letting them not fool themselves and then maybe they will take some control over their lives.
The same goes with politics.
Consider the prevalent racism in the GOP that runs from the top to the bottom. Yes you can whine all you want that not all Republicans are racist, but that deflects from how much of the leadership and rank and file most vociferously is.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:55:55pm |
re: #168 RogueOne
I really like it. Now I can text and drive. It's my right as an american to put the people around me at risk.
I see you've begun adapting to life without a blackberry...I was figuring you would adjust quickly.
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freetoken Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:56:06pm |
From today's press release stream:
Students' perceptions of Earth's age influence acceptance of human evolution, says U of Minn. study
High school and college students who understand the geological age of the Earth (4.5 billion years) are much more likely to understand and accept human evolution, according to a University of Minnesota study published in the March issue of the journal Evolution.
The finding could give educators a new strategy for teaching evolution, since the Earth's age is typically covered in physical rather than biological science classes.
Researchers Sehoya Cotner and Randy Moore, professors in College of Biological Sciences, and D. Christopher Brooks, of the university's Office of Information Technology, surveyed 400 students enrolled in several sections of a University of Minnesota introductory biology course for non-majors.
[...]
Through this and previous surveys, Cotner and her colleagues have learned that 2 percent of students are taught creationism only, 22 percent are taught evolution and creationism, 14 are taught neither and 62 percent evolution only.
"In other words, about one in four high school biology teachers in the upper Midwest are giving students the impression that creationism is a viable explanation for the origins of life on Earth," Cotner says. "That's just not acceptable. The Constitution prohibits teaching creationism in schools."
[...]
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Guanxi88 Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:56:28pm |
re: #164 RogueOne
re: #160 Aceofwhat?
We were married for 1 year only and only because I insisted on sticking it out a whole year. We both had great jobs, 2 new cars, all new furniture, appliances, etc., etc. I told her she could take it all. Replacing all my stuff was a lot cheaper than putting up with anymore of her crap. I actually have photo's of me loading all that crap up in a moving truck, by myself, while smiling ear to ear.
Reminds me of Willie Nelson, who once said: "The next time I think about getting married, I'm just gonna find some woman I don't like and buy her a house" - or words to that effect.
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:56:34pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:57:39pm |
re: #172 simoom
Ha! The volume control on that BBC video player goes up to 11 :D!
I thought that was gonna be a "The word 'gullible' is not in the dictionary" moment, but you're right. Clever.
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:59:12pm |
re: #89 simoom
An article on Jerry Falwell's Liberty University biology students' yearly fieldtrip to the Natural History Museum:
[Link: au.news.yahoo.com...](h/t rightwingwatch)
Marcus Ross, the young-earth creationist instructor quoted in the article, is a legitimately degreed paleontologist. His dissertation at the University of Rhode Island "was on tracking the diversity, biostratigraphy, and extinction of mosasaurs, an extinct group of marine reptiles whose remains are found in Late Cretaceous period (100–65 Ma) deposits around the world."
This only means he is willfully lying if he really "says carbon-dating techniques that have been used to suggest the Earth is in fact billions of years old are simply not reliable." He would know, of course, that RC dating is used only for organic material of recent geological origin and not for dating rocks in the billions, or even millions, of years.
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Kragar Wed, Mar 10, 2010 12:59:39pm |
re: #170 Obdicut
It does hit on one of my favorite points:
The Bible is silent about female masturbation. Unless you engage in creative interpretation.
I was also just infomed about the giant army of the zombies which shows up in the Bible. Come on people, thats how you get people into seats on a Sunday morning, Ezekiel the Necromancer and his army of the Undead.
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RogueOne Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:00:28pm |
re: #177 darthstar
I see you've begun adapting to life without a blackberry...I was figuring you would adjust quickly.
It took a week and 5 apps to get it to work like my old blackberry but I finally made it. A dialing app, a text app, a different email app, Ringo so I could set different notification sounds for different groups, and my all time favorite of any app the "settings profile" app by probeez.
I use my phone for work and have a few hundred contacts that I want to be able to control so the settings app is very, very handy.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:00:45pm |
re: #82 darthstar
"American" is a nationality, not a race. Are these people fucked in the head or what?
Meanwhile, there's a movement on for Arabs to refuse to put themselves down as a white...man this is complicated stuff.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:01:55pm |
re: #88 Charles
The idiots who plan to write "American" in the slot for their racial heritage are only defeating themselves. The figures compiled by the census are used to determine what kinds of government programs will be funded, and for whom.
The vast majority of these idiots are white right wingers. So by refusing to fill out the census form correctly, they're ensuring that they will be further marginalized.
Brilliant.
It's OK, Charles. Times may be hard, but white people are still having a pretty good decade.
/oh Lord
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:02:58pm |
re: #185 SanFranciscoZionist
Meanwhile, there's a movement on for Arabs to refuse to put themselves down as a white...man this is complicated stuff.
You're telling me! What the hell is an Elven Vampire Mage Sith Lord supposed to check off?!?!
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torrentprime Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:03:19pm |
re: #131 RogueOne
What is it you want me to ask about it?
The fact that married couples aren't recognized as such by the Feds, and that married households go down as two single unattached roommates might be one place to start. I can dig some more up for you if the site you pulled the question from doesn't have the answers you're seeking.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:03:29pm |
re: #175 Varek Raith
BTW did you get Take Lelieana to the Pearl and get a threesome?
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:03:57pm |
re: #189 LudwigVanQuixote
BTW did you get Take Lelieana to the Pearl and get a threesome?
Heh, you betcha!
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:04:34pm |
re: #93 Charles
Products of evangelical homeschooling, carrying on the proud traditions of their parents.
Yes they are... and they come in a group armed with their talking points and nothing you can say will help.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:05:07pm |
re: #190 Varek Raith
Heh, you betcha!
I understand that you can get Zevran in that mix too, but I don't swing that way.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:05:29pm |
re: #108 RogueOne
I don't have a problem with that either but when I hear some asswipe state proudly that he's an "italian-american" or a "greek-american" and then you find out they've never even been close to visiting their homeland...well, I find it annoying. Most of the people like that I've run into are just looking for a way to fit into a group when their ancestors already chose to come join the best group on the planet.
USA,USA! etc, etc.
I'm sorry, but if it annoys you to have someone say they're Italian-American, you don't have enough adversity in your life.
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:05:45pm |
re: #192 LudwigVanQuixote
I understand that you can get Zevran in that mix too, but I don't swing that way.
Zevran's a dirty, dirty elf. He's awesome.
XD
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Guanxi88 Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:05:50pm |
re: #187 Varek Raith
You're telling me! What the hell is an Elven Vampire Mage Sith Lord supposed to check off?!?!
Aleutian Islander.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:07:40pm |
For those who dislike 2000-page Health Reform bills, a progressive lawmaker has introduced a 4-page alternative. (Linked above from "Crooks and Lairs")
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:07:41pm |
re: #194 Varek Raith
Zevran's a dirty, dirty elf. He's awesome.
XD
My "she who must be obeyed" is hooked on the game too - we call him the horny little elf :)
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RogueOne Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:07:58pm |
re: #193 SanFranciscoZionist
I'm sorry, but if it annoys you to have someone say they're Italian-American, you don't have enough adversity in your life.
No I don't, I can always take more. People, in general, annoy me.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:08:22pm |
re: #187 Varek Raith
You're telling me! What the hell is an Elven Vampire Mage Sith Lord supposed to check off?!?!
"Mixed ancestry"?
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:10:43pm |
re: #187 Varek Raith
You're telling me! What the hell is an Elven Vampire Mage Sith Lord supposed to check off?!?!
Umm... Please don't tell the Human Jedi Master Palidin/Mage with the stake of pokiness + 7 where I am?
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:12:30pm |
re: #178 freetoken
This is what I meant about the anti-science stuff not at all being constrained to the homeschoolers. It's in our public and private schools as well. And it's going to hurt us so, so badly down the road. It's hurting us right now.
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:14:08pm |
re: #201 LudwigVanQuixote
Umm... Please don't tell the Human Jedi Master Palidin/Mage with the stake of pokiness + 7 where I am?
He's been...dealt with.
;)
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:16:05pm |
re: #203 Varek Raith
He's been...dealt with.
;)
Ahh that is why I have this zombie storm trooper infestation...
Equipping them with (blue berry) bagels of despair +2 was a nice touch....
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Guanxi88 Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:16:30pm |
re: #204 LudwigVanQuixote
Ahh that is why I have this zombie storm trooper infestation...
Equipping them with (blue berry) bagels of despair +2 was a nice touch...
toroidal muffins!
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torrentprime Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:16:39pm |
OT, but have people seen the latest(?) funny about Massa?
[Massa's roommate in the Navy] wakes up to Massa undoing his pants trying to snorkel him."
Beck, thank you for trying so hard to ally yourself with *anyone* who you think will help you. I am so glad you "wasted" an hour of your show trying desperately to find something that would hurt Obama; instead you gave air time to this walking comedy gem.
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Jadespring Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:17:22pm |
re: #189 LudwigVanQuixote
BTW did you get Take Lelieana to the Pearl and get a threesome?
I've done it with Alistair, with Lelianna, and the foursome thing with Zev.
Total let down though they don't actually show anything!
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:17:40pm |
re: #205 Guanxi88
toroidal muffins!
of despair +2 with a +10% chance of culture raping. Vampire Sith necromancers are a real pain in the ass. They aren't just evil, but they have a perverse sense of humor too.
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freetoken Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:18:49pm |
re: #202 Obdicut
Trying to remember of eons past... when I had biology in school. For us it was 7th grade science, and a biology course in 10th grade.
I cannot remember evolution being taught in my 10th grade biology class!
The 7th grade class touched on it via the Disney science movies - remember the one that associated our blood with sea water?
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:18:55pm |
re: #207 Jadespring
I've done it with Alistair, with Lelianna, and the foursome thing with Zev.
Total let down though they don't actually show anything!
I knew I liked you a lot.
I can not wait for the expansion...
And BTW I built a haste/ Arcane warrior with a penchant for electricity, bees and crushing prison.
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:21:21pm |
re: #209 freetoken
Oh, I think that science education in this country has been for crap forever. I just think we got somewhere, and now it's rolling backwards in some places.
It never reached a very good point, anyway.
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simoom Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:21:34pm |
Did anyone catch the Persian Edition of BBC's Blogworld?
[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]
I love how you hear: foreign-word, foreign-word, foreign-word, foreign-word, "Dan Rather", foreign-word, etc :). You also get to watch Charles speaking as a Persian language translator interprets.
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:21:54pm |
re: #210 LudwigVanQuixote
I knew I liked you a lot.
I can not wait for the expansion...
And BTW I built a haste/ Arcane warrior with a penchant for electricity, bees and crushing prison.
Blood Mage who uses Alistair as her bitch. Out of mana? Hey fool, get over here I'm going to take your blood!
Muhahaha:)
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BARACK THE VOTE Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:22:48pm |
re: #206 torrentprime
OT, but have people seen the latest(?) funny about Massa?
[Massa's roommate in the Navy] wakes up to Massa undoing his pants trying to snorkel him."
Beck, thank you for trying so hard to ally yourself with *anyone* who you think will help you. I am so glad you "wasted" an hour of your show trying desperately to find something that would hurt Obama; instead you gave air time to this walking comedy gem.
Oh my god, this story gets weirder and weirder!
From your link:
According to Peter Clarke, a Navy shipmate, Massa was notorious for making unwanted advances toward subordinates. He tells the story of his friend Stuart Borsch, with whom Massa shared a hotel room while on leave during the first Gulf War. "Stuart's at the edge of the bed," Clarke says Borsch told him at the time, "and [Massa] starts massaging him. Massa said, 'You'll have to get one of my special massages.' He called them 'Massa Massages.'" Ron Moss, a Navy shipmate and Borsch's roommate, confirmed that Borsch told him this story at the time.Borsch, now a history professor at Assumption College in Worcester, Massachusetts, didn't addresss that specific incident, but did confirm to me in an email that he was groped by Massa: "In 1990, aboard the U.S.S. Jouett, I was awakened when a senior officer, Lt. Commander Massa, seemed to be groping me. (I was a lieutenant at the time.) I believe he may have been drinking. I shouted at him and he left. I mentioned the incident to several other officers. I did not officially report it."
Clarke says that Massa's roommate, Tom Maxfield, was also assaulted. "Tom lived on upper bunk," Clarke say. "When you're on ship, you're almost exhausted 24-7. So a lot of times you sleep with your uniform on. Tom and Massa shared a stateroom together. Massa climbed up on the top of his bunk, which is hard to do--you never crawl up on somebody else's bunk. He wakes up to Massa undoing his pants trying to snorkel him." Ron Moss also confirmed hearing this story from Maxfield. Maxfield did return calls and messages left for him--I'll update if he does.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:23:05pm |
re: #213 Varek Raith
Blood Mage who uses Alistair as her bitch. Out of mana? Hey fool, get over here I'm going to take your blood!
Muhahaha:)
OK so you really really are evil....
Like necromancer who possesses the princess's breast implants evil.
I am impressed.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:23:23pm |
re: #176 LudwigVanQuixote
I understand your points. I agree with most, and am happy to gently disagree with others. Specifically, many of the tactics you mention (confronting an alcoholic, for example) work only when one is already close to and trusted by the individual.
That would be, as opposed to some of folks we attempt to convince here on the topic of AGW and others.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:23:39pm |
re: #214 iceweasel
Massa is Zevran! He is the horny little elf who switched sides!
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Jadespring Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:24:14pm |
re: #210 LudwigVanQuixote
I knew I liked you a lot.
I can not wait for the expansion...
And BTW I built a haste/ Arcane warrior with a penchant for electricity, bees and crushing prison.
Crushing prison is my absolute fave! Favorite tactic is to set some traps at the doorway, open it, set off lightening storm, then it's crushing prison and streams of arrows and range magic with the tanks bashing the ones that get caught in the door traps.
And yes! I think the expansion comes out next week!
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:25:41pm |
re: #218 Jadespring
Crushing prison is my absolute fave! Favorite tactic is to set some traps at the doorway, open it, set off lightening storm, then it's crushing prison and streams of arrows and range magic with the tanks bashing the ones that get caught in the door traps.
And yes! I think the expansion comes out next week!
Crushing prison + bees = boss hurts a lot.
And when in doubt grease + fire ball :)
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torrentprime Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:26:07pm |
re: #214 iceweasel
So sad. The closet is a killer, as smarter people than me have pointed out many times.
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:26:23pm |
Storm of the Century combo is hilarious.
;)
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Jadespring Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:26:51pm |
re: #219 LudwigVanQuixote
Crushing prison + bees = boss hurts a lot.
And when in doubt grease + fire ball :)
I'll have to try that. I've never really used bees.
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Jadespring Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:27:56pm |
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darthstar Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:28:21pm |
re: #206 torrentprime
OT, but have people seen the latest(?) funny about Massa?
[Massa's roommate in the Navy] wakes up to Massa undoing his pants trying to snorkel him."
Beck, thank you for trying so hard to ally yourself with *anyone* who you think will help you. I am so glad you "wasted" an hour of your show trying desperately to find something that would hurt Obama; instead you gave air time to this walking comedy gem.
So Massa joined the Navy for the seamen?
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:29:17pm |
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:29:56pm |
re: #221 Varek Raith
Storm of the Century combo is hilarious.
;)
Ohhh yes, that is why I chose the electric tree and the cold tree rather than macking out fire.
Eat my giant electrical tornado :)
I capped that on the blood mage in the alienage and well, that was that.
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BARACK THE VOTE Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:30:36pm |
re: #224 darthstar
So Massa joined the Navy for the seamen?
Used to be an old (Brit) joke about that, involving Master Bates, Seaman Staines, and Roger the Cabin Boy....
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Jadespring Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:30:36pm |
re: #225 Varek Raith
Spell Might + Blizzard + Tempest
Ooo....
This is what I love about this game. There's so many ways to play it and replay it again.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:31:10pm |
re: #225 Varek Raith
Spell Might + Blizzard + Tempest
And bloody glorious.
There are some really nice combos in the rune tree too, but I have yet to experiment with them.
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:32:26pm |
Of course, I tend to be the main dealer of friendly fire in my party...
:evilgrin:
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torrentprime Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:32:31pm |
re: #224 darthstar
So Massa joined the Navy for the seamen?
Well done.
I just flashed back to a Beavis and Butthead (sigh) episode. One of them was talking about his Dad, and said (something like): "My dad was in the Navy. He was a.... [great pause] seamen." That's been making me giggle for over a decade now.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:32:42pm |
re: #222 Jadespring
I'll have to try that. I've never really used bees.
It is really an over powered spell for you your munchkin pleasure.
The bees are a very potent DOT and after they kill your target, they move on to something else.
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Jadespring Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:32:49pm |
re: #226 LudwigVanQuixote
Ohhh yes, that is why I chose the electric tree and the cold tree rather than macking out fire.
Eat my giant electrical tornado :)
I capped that on the blood mage in the alienage and well, that was that.
I haven't played for a while but the last play through I started is a no mage in the party deal. It's rogue, rogue, rouge, tank. Except when you have to have Wynn in party of course.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:34:05pm |
re: #230 Varek Raith
Of course, I tend to be the main dealer of friendly fire in my party...
:evilgrin:
THat is why I focussed on a lot more of the you yes you and just you heavy damage build rather than over the top crowd control.
And then I ruined that by going for storm of the century lol.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:35:19pm |
re: #233 Jadespring
I haven't played for a while but the last play through I started is a no mage in the party deal. It's rogue, rogue, rouge, tank. Except when you have to have Wynn in party of course.
If you have enough health potions I could see that being very viable, particularly if you like to set a dozen or so traps first. Must have sucked when taking on Flemeth though.
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:36:21pm |
re: #234 LudwigVanQuixote
THat is why I focussed on a lot more of the you yes you and just you heavy damage build rather than over the top crowd control.
And then I ruined that by going for storm of the century lol.
They serve their purpose draw the mobs to one location and BOOM! Allies = collateral damage.
;)
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:37:35pm |
re: #235 LudwigVanQuixote
If you have enough health potions I could see that being very viable, particularly if you like to set a dozen or so traps first. Must have sucked when taking on Flemeth though.
Flemeth on nightmare is...yeesh.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:37:45pm |
And in ME 2 either a reave vanguard with an assault rifle or a warp ammo adept. If the vanguard had singularity, I would be completely satisfied.
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Jadespring Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:37:58pm |
re: #235 LudwigVanQuixote
If you have enough health potions I could see that being very viable, particularly if you like to set a dozen or so traps first. Must have sucked when taking on Flemeth though.
I haven't got to Flemeth yet on that play through. It probably would suck but you don't have to fight her to finish the quest so if it doesn't work I won't.
And yeah, lots of health potion needed and more of a focus on sneak and draw attacks, as well as archery to cut down any pack before you take them on.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:38:16pm |
re: #236 Varek Raith
They serve their purpose draw the mobs to one location and BOOM! Allies = collateral damage.
;)
How erm Russian those tactics are...
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:39:22pm |
re: #240 LudwigVanQuixote
How erm Russian those tactics are...
I'm walking death. Pure and simple.
I tend to go...overboard in my RPing.
:shrugs:
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Jadespring Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:41:09pm |
Oh wait I forgot. It's the three rogues, plus tank plus dog. I added a mod so Dog stays in the party all of the time.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:41:14pm |
re: #238 LudwigVanQuixote
And in ME 2 either a reave vanguard with an assault rifle or a warp ammo adept. If the vanguard had singularity, I would be completely satisfied.
Singularity is nearly impossible to overrate. It curves better than a major league fastball when you aim it right.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:41:24pm |
re: #241 Varek Raith
I'm walking death. Pure and simple.
I tend to go...overboard in my RPing.
:shrugs:
F'n zombie storm troopers...
GF is all into the sleep + nightmare + waking nightmare build and lets them kill each other while in an entropy cloud with Morrigan tossing cold and extra hexes all over the place.
Then she raises the corpses.
LOL
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:42:13pm |
re: #244 LudwigVanQuixote
F'n zombie storm troopers...
GF is all into the sleep + nightmare + waking nightmare build and lets them kill each other while in an entropy cloud with Morrigan tossing cold and extra hexes all over the place.
Then she raises the corpses.
LOL
Yes, that's a very fun one!
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:43:03pm |
re: #243 Aceofwhat?
Singularity is nearly impossible to overrate. It curves better than a major league fastball when you aim it right.
It is the only way I know to really slow down a heavy and it is very very tactically useful as a trap. All in all though I don't know if shockwave or slam is the most satisfying to see in action.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:43:14pm |
re: #244 LudwigVanQuixote
F'n zombie storm troopers...
GF is all into the sleep + nightmare + waking nightmare build and lets them kill each other while in an entropy cloud with Morrigan tossing cold and extra hexes all over the place.
Then she raises the corpses.
LOL
...and my parents used to think that games were as useless as TV. when is the last time any of us did half this much calculating because of a friggin' TV show??
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Jadespring Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:43:37pm |
re: #244 LudwigVanQuixote
F'n zombie storm troopers...
GF is all into the sleep + nightmare + waking nightmare build and lets them kill each other while in an entropy cloud with Morrigan tossing cold and extra hexes all over the place.
Then she raises the corpses.
LOL
I love it when you can sit back and they whack away at each other.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:44:41pm |
re: #246 LudwigVanQuixote
It is the only way I know to really slow down a heavy and it is very very tactically useful as a trap. All in all though I don't know if shockwave or slam is the most satisfying to see in action.
You can literally shut down a narrow passage in one shot and focus your attention elsewhere. Ah, now i'm all mopey for ME3.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:45:41pm |
re: #249 Aceofwhat?
You can literally shut down a narrow passage in one shot and focus your attention elsewhere. Ah, now i'm all mopey for ME3.
And then cap a warp on it :)
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Jadespring Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:47:30pm |
re: #247 Aceofwhat?
...and my parents used to think that games were as useless as TV. when is the last time any of us did half this much calculating because of a friggin' TV show??
So true. That's why I like Dragon Age so much, it's like playing in tv show or movie with enough choice that you can shape it how you want. Then you can go back, watch again, change the plot a bit and even change the ending.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:49:09pm |
BTW, speaking of Alistair and DAO, my GF played through and romanced him as an elf mage with the goal of being Queen ...
I was working on a calculation when I suddenly heard the most intense cussing...
You little bitch! You are breaking up with me? After I put up with all of your whining and after everything, you are breaking up with me because I am an elf! I broke up with Leelee for you!
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Jadespring Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:53:07pm |
re: #252 LudwigVanQuixote
BTW, speaking of Alistair and DAO, my GF played through and romanced him as an elf mage with the goal of being Queen ...
I was working on a calculation when I suddenly heard the most intense cussing...
LOL. I know that feeling! That's when I go back to the previous save.
The first character I played romanced him and I was going for the option where he becomes king but still has fling with you on the side. It's supposed to be an option but I couldn't make it happen. I think I probably swore a lot too. "Friends, you want to just be freakin friends after all this crap!"
Next play through I killed him off at the end.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:54:27pm |
re: #251 Jadespring
So true. That's why I like Dragon Age so much, it's like playing in tv show or movie with enough choice that you can shape it how you want. Then you can go back, watch again, change the plot a bit and even change the ending.
Mine's in the mail. I expect to have my post-ME2 blues lifted during weekend periods when the kids are asleep and the other half wants alone time...
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Jadespring Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:55:25pm |
re: #255 Aceofwhat?
Mine's in the mail. I expect to have my post-ME2 blues lifted during weekend periods when the kids are asleep and the other half wants alone time...
I think you'll love it. It's just technically and artistically a beautiful game imo.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:56:35pm |
re: #256 Jadespring
I think you'll love it. It's just technically and artistically a beautiful game imo.
Of all the Bioware games it also has the most enjoyable side kicks since Kotor.
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:57:17pm |
Heh, it's a shame I can't cast Virulent Walking Bomb on Alistair and send him into the fray.
:Dark Side Points Gained:
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Jadespring Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:58:29pm |
re: #257 LudwigVanQuixote
Okay, now after all this talking I'm getting really excited about the expansion.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 1:59:42pm |
re: #258 Varek Raith
Heh, it's a shame I can't cast Virulent Walking Bomb on Alistair and send him into the fray.
:Dark Side Points Gained:
So, not surprisingly, I tend to mack out light side or paragon.
However, I was once curious to do pure evil in KOTOR and see how evil that would be... I ended up convincing Zaalbar to kill mission.
I felt dirty afterwards and thanked God for save and re load... LOL
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Mar 10, 2010 2:00:13pm |
re: #259 Jadespring
Okay, now after all this talking I'm getting really excited about the expansion.
As well you should... You can re=spec any character and there are expansion special classes.
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 10, 2010 2:01:35pm |
re: #260 LudwigVanQuixote
So, not surprisingly, I tend to mack out light side or paragon.
However, I was once curious to do pure evil in KOTOR and see how evil that would be... I ended up convincing Zaalbar to kill mission.
I felt dirty afterwards and thanked God for save and re load... LOL
What you can do to Carth at the end if you're darkside female is priceless.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 10, 2010 2:02:21pm |
re: #260 LudwigVanQuixote
So, not surprisingly, I tend to mack out light side or paragon.
However, I was once curious to do pure evil in KOTOR and see how evil that would be... I ended up convincing Zaalbar to kill mission.
I felt dirty afterwards and thanked God for save and re load... LOL
I always have to do dark/renegade the second time...the curiosity helps overcome my natural instincts.
Although in ME2 it helped that the scars and eyes of your character get fantastic if you renegade enough...little extra motivation to be a complete dick helped see me through....
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 10, 2010 2:03:36pm |
re: #256 Jadespring
I think you'll love it. It's just technically and artistically a beautiful game imo.
You and LVQ have spent the past few minutes making waaay too much sense for me to expect otherwise-
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 10, 2010 2:03:39pm |
Huh, I always play an evil character first. Good is so...boring.
;)
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Jadespring Wed, Mar 10, 2010 2:03:40pm |
re: #261 LudwigVanQuixote
As well you should... You can re=spec any character and there are expansion special classes.
Cool. I've purposely not read to much about it. Looking forward to going back to the first couple of characters, well especially the first one. They kinda grew on me and I was actually sad when it ended.
First character was a Dalish Rogue.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 10, 2010 2:04:26pm |
re: #265 Varek Raith
Huh, I always play an evil character first. Good is so...boring.
;)
i'd have expected nothing less-
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Jadespring Wed, Mar 10, 2010 2:08:21pm |
re: #264 Aceofwhat?
You and LVQ have spent the past few minutes making waaay too much sense for me to expect otherwise-
I've never played a game where I got so into parts of the story that I actually teared up at times. Oh and really, really angry. Howe, oh did I ever detest Howe in that particular storyline. Killing his slimy ass was awesome.
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 10, 2010 2:09:55pm |
You killed Aeris! You'll pay!
Guess the reference.
;)
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 10, 2010 2:12:03pm |
re: #268 Jadespring
I've never played a game where I got so into parts of the story that I actually teared up at times. Oh and really, really angry. Howe, oh did I ever detest Howe in that particular storyline. Killing his slimy ass was awesome.
that's fantastic. and then if the visual elements are beautiful, the only drawback is when there aren't any more variations to play...
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jeremy0114 Wed, Mar 10, 2010 2:14:42pm |
What game are you guys talking about? Breezing over the comments I thought you were talking about Warcraft, but after closer reading you certainly are not...
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Jadespring Wed, Mar 10, 2010 2:15:09pm |
re: #270 Aceofwhat?
that's fantastic. and then if the visual elements are beautiful, the only drawback is when there aren't any more variations to play...
Are you getting it for PC? If so there's lots of new player made content that's coming out all the time. Plus there's new official game content addons and an expansion coming out next week. I've probably spent close to 200 hours with the game by now and I still haven't seen or done absolutely everything that's available
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Kragar Wed, Mar 10, 2010 2:15:10pm |
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 10, 2010 2:15:21pm |
re: #271 jeremy0114
What game are you guys talking about? Breezing over the comments I thought you were talking about Warcraft, but after closer reading you certainly are not...
Dragon Age with a bit of Mass Effect 2 thrown in!
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Jadespring Wed, Mar 10, 2010 2:15:34pm |
re: #271 jeremy0114
What game are you guys talking about? Breezing over the comments I thought you were talking about Warcraft, but after closer reading you certainly are not...
Dragon Age Origins
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jeremy0114 Wed, Mar 10, 2010 2:16:33pm |
Ahhh, okay... haven't played that at all... Sounds much more interesting that WoW... although i'll admit to playing the crap out of that for a while...
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 10, 2010 2:19:42pm |
See you all later, I'm going to go pick on the French.
*scurries off to play Europa Universalis 2*
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 10, 2010 2:30:32pm |
re: #272 Jadespring
Are you getting it for PC? If so there's lots of new player made content that's coming out all the time. Plus there's new official game content addons and an expansion coming out next week. I've probably spent close to 200 hours with the game by now and I still haven't seen or done absolutely everything that's available
No, i converted to Xbox360 years ago.
For me, (bigger screen + price + hardware that doesn't need to be updated) > (extra content + easier customization + precision of mouse).
But that equation is different for everyone...when i wasn't a dad and spent more time playing (and PC was much farther advanced than the best consoles), I played PC.
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Jimmah Wed, Mar 10, 2010 3:03:46pm |
re: #30 Charles
An interesting sidenote about the stalkers posting at Richard Metzger's site.
There was a certain LGF user who is now banned after a really nasty freak-out, who also liked to use the unusual word "myrmidon." He posted quite a few comments containing this word.
Bs monkey is a frothing nutcase on an exclusive diet of frooty loops. Last time I saw him at the stalker site, he was ranting about the 'impossibility' of buying "non-whorish underwear" - for either makes or females - before launching a general rant about the Sodom and Gomorrah like fall of the modern world.
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