Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right...

...that song just keeps getting more meaningful for me day after day.

Gee, you'd think they'd realize that the comments they were leaving only helped to prove your point.
Sigh, idiots.

(And of course, the ranters are already at it in the comments for part 2 of the video. They hate me — they really hate me!)

So do I!! Wait, what?
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I don't think I have the energy to comment back to that FriedLizard dude. I think the 'fried' part of his name is pretty accurate.

re: #4 Obdicut

I don't think I have the energy to comment back to that FriedLizard dude. I think the 'fried' part of his name is pretty accurate.

Indeed. My favorite user name that flounced? Crash'n'Burn. Or something along those lines.
;)

Richard Metzger is a very good interviewer (the eyebrows are a tremendous asset) but he talks too much in this part.

That is too bad Charles, the hate. Though my politcal views are to your right, this is a blog where in general differences can be expressed. That is how we learn.

The right and the left need to talk more and yell less.

We can even agree to disagree and let the votes decide.

I never understood the hatred for Bush, and I don't understood the hatred for Obama, let alone Charles.

re: #1 MrSilverDragon

Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right...

...that song just keeps getting more meaningful for me day after day.

Sometimes I could give up an ear to hear that song.

re: #4 Obdicut

I don't think I have the energy to comment back to that FriedLizard dude. I think the 'fried' part of his name is pretty accurate.

They just make shit up, over and over again, and pop up anywhere that mentions Charles or LGF. OCD doesn't even begin to cover it.

sucks, dude. Sorry

BBL.

We interrupt this blog war story with breaking news ...

Football Hall of Famer and TV Legend Merlin Olsen is dead at age 69 ...

A classy man, a great ballplayer, and a beloved actor.

{{RIP Merlin Olsen}}

re: #12 _RememberTonyC

An anchor for the Fearsome Foursome. RIP.

re: #10 cliffster

sucks, dude. Sorry

Is some people can't win a debate, they lash out. Screw 'em.

re: #14 Cannadian Club Akbar

Is= if, pimf.

re: #5 Varek Raith

Indeed. My favorite user name that flounced? Crash'n'Burn. Or something along those lines.
;)

He posts by that same nic on the Stalker Blog. He's a run-of-the-mill flouncer asshole.

re: #13 filetandrelease

An anchor for the Fearsome Foursome. RIP.

As I'm sure you know, Olsen's "Fearsome Foursome" teammate Rosey Grier was there when RFK was assassinated in 1968.

Meanwhile in Gaza: The Burka Brigade is on the march
Nice shoes.

re: #18 Killgore Trout

Meanwhile in Gaza: The Burka Brigade is on the march
Nice shoes.

How is their peripheral vision?

re: #19 _RememberTonyC

How is their peripheral vision?

THEY ARE SHOWING TOES! Don't they know the sight of their toes could incite some poor man to overwhelming lust?

re: #19 _RememberTonyC

How is their peripheral vision?

Probably better than their gun safety. Most of them are marching arounf with their fingers in the trigger.

re: #20 EmmmieG

THEY ARE SHOWING TOES! Don't they know the sight of their toes could incite some poor man to overwhelming lust?

are there a lot of foot fetishists in gaza? i know they like to THROW shoes there :)

re: #18 Killgore Trout

Meanwhile in Gaza: The Burka Brigade is on the march
Nice shoes.

The caption in the photo says that they're "Female militants". I don't think that's a safe assumption, given the prevalence of men dressing in burkas to escape getting their sandy asses kicked.

re: #21 Killgore Trout

Probably better than their gun safety. Most of them are marching arounf with their fingers in the trigger.

they dress like NUNS but carry GUNS ...

(apologies to any Jesuit Sisters)

re: #12 _RememberTonyC

We interrupt this blog war story with breaking news ...

Football Hall of Famer and TV Legend Merlin Olsen is dead at age 69 ...

A classy man, a great ballplayer, and a beloved actor.

{{RIP Merlin Olsen}}

I saw Mr. Olsen play many times in LA. As a football player and a man he was appreciated and respected by myself and everyone I knew. Good going, Merlin.

re: #23 thedopefishlives

The caption in the photo says that they're "Female militants". I don't think that's a safe assumption, given the prevalence of men dressing in burkas to escape getting their sandy asses kicked.

don't give eric massa any ideas ...

re: #21 Killgore Trout

Probably better than their gun safety. Most of them are marching arounf with their fingers in the trigger.

That's actually fairly common over there. Many Arabs have very poor weapons handling practices. Some exceptions are the Iraqis we've trained, and the Jordanians (British influenced and founded). Islamist terror groups do tend to shoot each other a fair bit while handling their weapons wrong.

Darwin Akbar!

School policy requires that senior prom dates be of the opposite sex. The ACLU of Mississippi had given the district until Wednesday to change that policy, arguing that banning same-sex prom dates violated McMillen's constitutional rights.

The Itawamba County school district's board decided Wednesday to drop the prom because of what it called recent distractions but without specifically mentioning the girl's request, which was backed by the American Civil Liberties Union.

ACLU to the rescue!...I can't wait to follow this story, teeming with both political and sexual tension!...what a hoot

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

re: #28 albusteve

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

re: #28 albusteve

School policy requires that senior prom dates be of the opposite sex. The ACLU of Mississippi had given the district until Wednesday to change that policy, arguing that banning same-sex prom dates violated McMillen's constitutional rights.

The Itawamba County school district's board decided Wednesday to drop the prom because of what it called recent distractions but without specifically mentioning the girl's request, which was backed by the American Civil Liberties Union.

ACLU to the rescue!...I can't wait to follow this story, teeming with both political and sexual tension!...what a hoot

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

The school board is wrong, not the ACLU.

Hate takes so much effort.

re: #28 albusteve

School policy requires that senior prom dates be of the opposite sex. The ACLU of Mississippi had given the district until Wednesday to change that policy, arguing that banning same-sex prom dates violated McMillen's constitutional rights.

The Itawamba County school district's board decided Wednesday to drop the prom because of what it called recent distractions but without specifically mentioning the girl's request, which was backed by the American Civil Liberties Union.

ACLU to the rescue!...I can't wait to follow this story, teeming with both political and sexual tension!...what a hoot

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

My personal take has always been that I wished prom had been set up to be date-less. They could have done it as a nice dinner-dance, with everyone just going, eating, and then dancing. I don't know if it has changed over the last twenty years, but when I was a teen you just didn't go if you didn't have a date (girls, anyway).

I didn't have a boyfriend, and while I did go, the nice young man I attended with was barely a friend. I would have had a better time just dressing up and going with friends.*

The pseudo-romantic pairings of prom dates are silly, for most youth. Just let everyone go and have a good time, and who would care what she wore?

*To be honest, and I hope this doesn't crush any guys out there, eighty percent of prom for most girls is the dress, and another ten is the accessories.

re: #32 EmmmieG

My personal take has always been that I wished prom had been set up to be date-less. They could have done it as a nice dinner-dance, with everyone just going, eating, and then dancing. I don't know if it has changed over the last twenty years, but when I was a teen you just didn't go if you didn't have a date (girls, anyway).

I didn't have a boyfriend, and while I did go, the nice young man I attended with was barely a friend. I would have had a better time just dressing up and going with friends.*

The pseudo-romantic pairings of prom dates are silly, for most youth. Just let everyone go and have a good time, and who would care what she wore?

*To be honest, and I hope this doesn't crush any guys out there, eighty percent of prom for most girls is the dress, and another ten is the accessories.

I thought the men also fell in the "accessory" category. :)

re: #33 soap_man

I thought the men also fell in the "accessory" category. :)

For the record, I did not say that. He did.

re: #30 soap_man

The school board is wrong, not the ACLU.

it's just another goofy story...do they still have girls and boys bathrooms?

re: #18 Killgore Trout

Marching to show solidarity with the al Aqsa mosque? That's the frakking caption? *facepalm*

No, they're marching because they're marching to show solidarity with those seeking Israel's destruction and oh, Israel's decision to try and protect Jewish heritage sites in the West Bank. The al Aqsa mosque has nothing to do with this march.

In fact, this caption from a related photo is more accurate:

Palestinian women supporters of the Islamic Jihad movement march during a rally against Israel's decision to include two West Bank shrines on a list of national heritage sites, in the Jebaliya refugee camp, north of Gaza City, Wednesday, March 10, 2010.

re: #33 soap_man

I thought the men also fell in the "accessory" category. :)

only a few. the rest of us came in around 6th place on that list...

re: #34 EmmmieG

For the record, I did not say that. He did.

Here at LGF, we try not to wince at truth plainly spoken/

re: #27 Dark_Falcon

There's one in this bunch that seems to know what they're doing. The rest? Not so much.

re: #39 lawhawk

There's one in this bunch that seems to know what they're doing. The rest? Not so much.

These woman must be the small percentage of the Palestinians who want an armed answer to the Israel/Palestine problem.
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re: #9 iceweasel

They just make shit up, over and over again, and pop up anywhere that mentions Charles or LGF. OCD doesn't even begin to cover it.

If there was any doubt left that there are emotionally impaired, Charles Johnson-obsessed stalkers loose in the world, that Dangerous Minds comment thread proves the point.

re: #41 jaunte

Seriously. I'd like to note they're lying about me and claiming I made the comment about Rachel Corrine. They're the ones claiming to be showing the truth, and they're lying about me, casually, as a way to discredit my defense of Charles.

It's beyond pathetic, and straight into crazy.

re: #39 lawhawk

There's one in this bunch that seems to know what they're doing. The rest? Not so much.

every time I see a picture like this, I can't help but think two things:

1. What a bleak existence these people have chosen for themselves (and)

2. Whatever Israel has done over the years to hold them at bay has been far more humane than anyone had a right to expect.

re: #42 Obdicut

Seriously. I'd like to note they're lying about me and claiming I made the comment about Rachel Corrine. They're the ones claiming to be showing the truth, and they're lying about me, casually, as a way to discredit my defense of Charles.

It's beyond pathetic, and straight into crazy.

I strongly suspect that the creep posting as "Fried Lizard" is one of the deranged freaks who runs "LGF Watch."

Whoah! Go check out today's Day By Day cartoon.

re: #18 Killgore Trout

Meanwhile in Gaza: The Burka Brigade is on the march
Nice shoes.

I like the cuffed jeans and fashionable flats underneath, yes.

This is such modern bullshit. Look at pictures of the region in the late nineteenth, early twentieth century, one thing you'll notice is that women aren't dressed like that. Were these ladies' grandmothers and great-grandmothers such bad Muslims?

My "Good Grief!" story of the day:

Lohan Sues Over Spilled Milk

re: #20 EmmmieG

THEY ARE SHOWING TOES! Don't they know the sight of their toes could incite some poor man to overwhelming lust?

You THINK you're kidding. There was a wacky little group in Israel for a while, grouped around this charismatic nut of a woman, who were into, basically, Jewish burqas. These women wore gloves, because 'finger cleavage' could get men going.

re: #44 Charles

Oh, it definitely and clearly is. I read that site once, but same writing style, same arguments. Obsessed.

re: #24 _RememberTonyC

they dress like NUNS but carry GUNS ...

(apologies to any Jesuit Sisters)

There are no Jesuit sisters.

re: #42 Obdicut

Seriously. I'd like to note they're lying about me and claiming I made the comment about Rachel Corrine. They're the ones claiming to be showing the truth, and they're lying about me, casually, as a way to discredit my defense of Charles.

It's beyond pathetic, and straight into crazy.

It certainly speaks to a possible clinical pathology of mental illness. Anyone who wants to try to attract this sort of negative attention to themselves by obsessing on a daily basis about someone or something they do not agree with needs to reconsider what the motivation is that makes them do this.

re: #45 The Sanity Inspector

Whoah! Go check out today's Day By Day cartoon.

Chris Muir sounds like he's calling for Obama's death and his lead-in is wrong , too. The man has drunk the Bad Craziness Kool-Aid.

re: #28 albusteve

School policy requires that senior prom dates be of the opposite sex. The ACLU of Mississippi had given the district until Wednesday to change that policy, arguing that banning same-sex prom dates violated McMillen's constitutional rights.

The Itawamba County school district's board decided Wednesday to drop the prom because of what it called recent distractions but without specifically mentioning the girl's request, which was backed by the American Civil Liberties Union.

ACLU to the rescue!...I can't wait to follow this story, teeming with both political and sexual tension!...what a hoot

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

I saw a picture. The girl in question is adorable. I would go to the prom with her in a minute, I mean, if I weren't married and twenty years older than she is.

re: #30 soap_man

The school board is wrong, not the ACLU.

I can't believe they cancelled prom for all the kids just to prevent a same-sex date.

As was part one, this is an excellent interview, with a few exceptions.

Metzger was unfair in criticizing religious people as less credible or insightful in the political sense. The vast majority of religious people are centrist and anything but hard line. In fact, prior to Reagan most religious people identified with the Democrats and not the GOP. It was only when the Dems decided that Hollywood had more in common with the political leadership than did Middle America did the political landscape change. They traded Middle America for Madonna. Further, belief in God does not necessarily negate the primacy of science. There are legions of religious and spiritual scientists who are proof of that.

Secondly, in discussing Sarah Palin's supporters, Metzger asserted that 'working people' in 'certain regions of the country' were somehow less intelligent than people in other parts of the country. He also questioned Palin's bona fides as a politician. That is patently absurd and elitist.

Whatever Palin is (and I'm no fan by any means. I do not want to see her on a national ticket) the fact is she has a lot in common with most Americans. Like them, she graduated from state schools and not as an Ivy League legacy. She worked her way up the political ladder and took on her own party for corruption and won. Is she a Rhodes Scholar? Nope. So what? Neither was Harry Truman or the vast majority of Congress people or Senators. The fact is she was a well liked governor who received a large majority of votes in local elections.

To his credit, CJ didn't take the bait and ride that pony into the sunset. In this second part of the interview, Metzger would have done well to let CJ do most of the talking.

re: #50 SanFranciscoZionist

There are no Jesuit sisters.

Sorry for the offense ... us "Old Testament" types sometimes trip up ...

re: #32 EmmmieG

My personal take has always been that I wished prom had been set up to be date-less. They could have done it as a nice dinner-dance, with everyone just going, eating, and then dancing. I don't know if it has changed over the last twenty years, but when I was a teen you just didn't go if you didn't have a date (girls, anyway).

I didn't have a boyfriend, and while I did go, the nice young man I attended with was barely a friend. I would have had a better time just dressing up and going with friends.*

The pseudo-romantic pairings of prom dates are silly, for most youth. Just let everyone go and have a good time, and who would care what she wore?

*To be honest, and I hope this doesn't crush any guys out there, eighty percent of prom for most girls is the dress, and another ten is the accessories.

I, personally, think proms are creepy as hell.

re: #6 wrenchwench

Richard Metzger is a very good interviewer (the eyebrows are a tremendous asset) but he talks too much in this part.

Ain't that the truth.

re: #56 _RememberTonyC

Sorry for the offense ... us "Old Testament" types sometimes trip up ...

it was worth it (a) for the retort and (b) for the retort from a well-heeled Jewish girl. i had to put the coffee down...

Since Rachel Corrie was mentioned in the comments, I thought this would be a good place to mention this:

Rachel Corrie's parents are suing Israel for her death!

re: #33 soap_man

I thought the men also fell in the "accessory" category. :)

What grosses me out is the 'custom' of the boys wearing their date's garter on their sleeve. I don't know how common this is, but it was a thing when I went to prom, and it's continued. The symbolism is obvious, and inappropriate as hell for a school dance.

re: #57 SanFranciscoZionist

I, personally, think proms are creepy as hell.

try attending as a less-than-accessory...

re: #61 SanFranciscoZionist

What grosses me out is the 'custom' of the boys wearing their date's garter on their sleeve. I don't know how common this is, but it was a thing when I went to prom, and it's continued. The symbolism is obvious, and inappropriate as hell for a school dance.

never heard of it. although again, i ranked far lower than the accessories...

re: #53 SanFranciscoZionist

I saw a picture. The girl in question is adorable. I would go to the prom with her in a minute, I mean, if I weren't married and twenty years older than she is.

the fact that this is even an issue just shows how fucked up the public schools are...shut down the whole party?...why don't the girls just hook up at the dance?...did they know it would be canceled if they pressed the issue?...who knew what and when did they know it?

re: #51 Walter L. Newton

It certainly speaks to a possible clinical pathology of mental illness. Anyone who wants to try to attract this sort of negative attention to themselves by obsessing on a daily basis about someone or something they do not agree with needs to reconsider what the motivation is that makes them do this.

If they were capable of that kind of honest reflection in the first place, they probably wouldn't be hateful, angry, obsessed freaks.

re: #64 albusteve

the fact that this is even an issue just shows how fucked up the public schools are...shut down the whole party?...why don't the girls just hook up at the dance?...did they know it would be canceled if they pressed the issue?...who knew what and when did they know it?

Where's the missing 18 minutes of tape?

re: #60 sffilk

Since Rachel Corrie was mentioned in the comments, I thought this would be a good place to mention this:

Rachel Corrie's parents are suing Israel for her death!

that came up one or two days ago already...not that a fresh link is bad, but that's prob why you haven't seen it discussed much here today...

re: #56 _RememberTonyC

Sorry for the offense ... us "Old Testament" types sometimes trip up ...

No offense taken, sorry if that sounded ominous. The Jesuits do not have a sister order. It's all dudes, with a fanatical devotion to the pope.

re: #35 albusteve

it's just another goofy story...do they still have girls and boys bathrooms?

Yep. Just another goofy story of small-minded bigotry.

re: #60 sffilk

Since Rachel Corrie was mentioned in the comments, I thought this would be a good place to mention this:

Rachel Corrie's parents are suing Israel for her death!

I expect and hope that they lose. Their daughter chose to engage in a very risky action to protect terrorists and paid the price for that bad decision.

re: #61 SanFranciscoZionist

What grosses me out is the 'custom' of the boys wearing their date's garter on their sleeve. I don't know how common this is, but it was a thing when I went to prom, and it's continued. The symbolism is obvious, and inappropriate as hell for a school dance.

Sorta makes me glad I wasn't popular at all and never even heard about my prom!

re: #69 garhighway

Yep. Just another goofy story of small-minded bigotry.

I don't see it as bigotry, necessarily...just an expression of old time values and propriety...I see nothing wrong with the garter thing either

re: #67 Aceofwhat?

that came up one or two days ago already...not that a fresh link is bad, but that's prob why you haven't seen it discussed much here today...

I hadn't seen any discussion of it, which is why I put the link up. Thanks for the edification.

re: #72 albusteve

Old time values and propriety often contain bigotry. Like in this case, they do.

re: #74 Obdicut

Old time values and propriety often contain bigotry. Like in this case, they do.

Exactly. The "old-time value" here is that homosexuality is perverse and evil. Quaint.

re: #72 albusteve

I don't see it as bigotry, necessarily...just an expression of old time values and propriety...I see nothing wrong with the garter thing either

My old time values and propriety reject the idea that it's proper for a young girl to give a boy her underwear to wear to a dance. Or that it is improper for two young girls without male companions to go to a dance together.

I could see their point if they had just nixed the tuxedo thing on the grounds that the girls were required to wear skirts.

re: #74 Obdicut

Old time values and propriety often contain bigotry. Like in this case, they do.

The thing is, in an earlier and purer-minded time, this would not have been an issue at all. People flip out because 'prom date' is now a sexualized role, not a social one.

charles maybe they would leave you alone if you would just stop hating christians and america

re: #76 SanFranciscoZionist

My old time values and propriety reject the idea that it's proper for a young girl to give a boy her underwear to wear to a dance. Or that it is improper for two young girls without male companions to go to a dance together.

I could see their point if they had just nixed the tuxedo thing on the grounds that the girls were required to wear skirts.

I think the entire thing is a bunch of overblown hooy...just another bump in the road forward

re: #78 SpaceJesus

charles maybe they would leave you alone if you would just stop hating christians and america

[smiles and rolls eyes]

re: #77 SanFranciscoZionist

After lots of time denying teenage sexuality, now we're just freaking terrified of it and want to hit it with a shovel.

Unfortunately, that means that the most obvious displays of teenage sexuality-- like anything against the norm-- get hammered on all the harder.

Being a teenager sucks. Anyone who makes it suck more than it should is a total asshole.

re: #79 albusteve

You say that about pretty much everything, though. It lacks force.

re: #81 Obdicut

After lots of time denying teenage sexuality, now we're just freaking terrified of it and want to hit it with a shovel.

Unfortunately, that means that the most obvious displays of teenage sexuality-- like anything against the norm-- get hammered on all the harder.

Being a teenager sucks. Anyone who makes it suck more than it should is a total asshole.

bit of an overstatement...certainly not for everyone...I had no teen problems, or my own kids

re: #83 albusteve

bit of an overstatement...certainly not for everyone...I had no teen problems, or my own kids

Well, I had many. Mostly because assholes though it fun to mock and tease me.

Charles, your mind is dangerous because your canon is loose. If you were more of a dogmatist, people would like you better.

Well, the ones who agreed with your dogma would. The rest would still hate you.

Well, Nate Silver says that same-sex marriage is coming to Mississippi on or around 2024. Maybe they should practice a little first by having two girls go to the Itchawamba High School prom together.

re: #83 albusteve

bit of an overstatement...certainly not for everyone...I had no teen problems, or my own kids

You and your kids were lucky. I was the dump-on from kindergarten until 12th grade, and it only go worse as my classmates' methods of harassment, etc., improved with age.

re: #86 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, Nate Silver says that same-sex marriage is coming to Mississippi on or around 2024. Maybe they should practice a little first by having two girls go to the Itchawamba High School prom together.

At my high school, two lesbians went together to senior prom. Since they were openly together since junior year, nobody made a big thing about it (besides the Beavis and Butthead types.)

re: #88 Soap_Man

At my high school, two lesbians went together to senior prom. Since they were openly together since junior year, nobody made a big thing about it (besides the Beavis and Butthead types.)

Who were probably mainly jealous.

re: #35 albusteve

it's just another goofy story...do they still have girls and boys bathrooms?

Yes its goofy to think that gays or lesbians should be allowed to go on dates with each other in a public institution!

re: #85 Cato the Elder

Charles, your mind is dangerous because your canon is loose. If you were more of a dogmatist, people would like you better.

Well, the ones who agreed with your dogma would. The rest would still hate you.

My karma ran over your dogma!

I always reserve to myself the privilege of changing my mind. It's the only one elderly gentlemen share with pretty women.
-- W. Somerset Maugham, The Aide

That was a really interesting interview.

This is just sad. I think for a long time many of us hoped that WWII would have shocked anyone with that mindset into a fearsome self-examination--would have hit their psyche like a 9 point earthquake. Didn't happen. It just keeps coming back to humanity like waves on a beach, it goes out, it comes in.

I wish there was something more productive to say.

re: #18 Killgore Trout

Meanwhile in Gaza: The Burka Brigade is on the march
Nice shoes.

She's showing toe!

Stone the slut!

re: #61 SanFranciscoZionist

What grosses me out is the 'custom' of the boys wearing their date's garter on their sleeve. I don't know how common this is, but it was a thing when I went to prom, and it's continued. The symbolism is obvious, and inappropriate as hell for a school dance.

Who knows what a "garter" even is?

Back in the olden days, I mean when my mother and my grandmother were kids, a garter was a thing you wore to hold your stockings up.

Then it became a "custom" for a bride to wear a white one, or a blue one.

But as an actual article of clothing, a "garter" is just the same as a detachable collar.

re: #96 Alouette
Who's mom said, "Hey honey, lets get the garter to go with huh?" Why would the girl be wearing such a thing. She's not getting married. Not that I would know anything about prom; I didn't even go to high school. My son didn't either. I don't think it hurt either of us.