Video: Stephen Colbert Plants a Crisis Garden
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It’s almost too easy to mock Glenn Beck and his few remaining idiotic advertisers, but Stephen Colbert makes it look even easier.
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theheat Thu, Mar 11, 2010 2:54:28pm |
I want to know what movie the mole people are from. I should know this.
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jamesfirecat Thu, Mar 11, 2010 2:55:47pm |
(Pant, pant) Need... more... time... between... threads.... you're killing me Charles!
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zora Thu, Mar 11, 2010 2:56:12pm |
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
TurboTax drops Glenn Beck, whose show has gone without ads for more than a month in the UK.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Mar 11, 2010 2:56:48pm |
re: #1 theheat
I want to know what movie the mole people are from. I should know this.
Oddly enough, it was titled "The Mole People." Starring John Agar.
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jamesfirecat Thu, Mar 11, 2010 2:58:07pm |
re: #3 zora
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
TurboTax drops Glenn Beck, whose show has gone without ads for more than a month in the UK.
What do they do for commercial breaks, have Rupert Murdoch dress in drag and do the hula?
GAH BAD MENTAL IMAGE!
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theheat Thu, Mar 11, 2010 2:58:36pm |
re: #4 Charles
My mind confused it with Attack of the Giant Shrews. I have them all on DVD.
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Randall Gross Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:01:25pm |
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freetoken Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:02:07pm |
Non-hybrid seeds are a big deal in the survivalist/doomer world. And yes, Mormons seem to gravitate to survivalism. I remember pre-Y2K Art Bell pimping MRE's from Utah, emphasizing the Mormon connection.
The survivalist are especially hostile to GMO foods.
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Randall Gross Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:02:25pm |
re: #6 theheat
I've kept several 55-gallon drums in the garage ever since I saw that one...
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jamesfirecat Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:04:04pm |
re: #8 freetoken
Non-hybrid seeds are a big deal in the survivalist/doomer world. And yes, Mormons seem to gravitate to survivalism. I remember pre-Y2K Art Bell pimping MRE's from Utah, emphasizing the Mormon connection.
The survivalist are especially hostile to GMO foods.
Guess they don't exactly cotton to letting plants cross pollinate with any old stalk of corn....
That or they're afraid Hybrid Vigor crops will one day rise up and overthrow humanity...
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:04:56pm |
If this kind of ripoff scam is what's being advertised on the Beck Clown Rodeo Show, they must be getting desperate.
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freetoken Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:05:32pm |
re: #12 Cato the Elder
Don't forget the overpriced gold that's been there from day 1.
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jamesfirecat Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:05:54pm |
re: #12 Cato the Elder
If this kind of ripoff scam is what's being advertised on the Beck Clown Rodeo Show, they must be getting desperate.
Yes, but in their desperation they've found the perfect match, a lot like God Line, crazy world doomey show comes on, crazy world doomey commercial pays for it, it's a match made in Mordor....
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darthstar Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:06:12pm |
re: #12 Cato the Elder
If this kind of ripoff scam is what's being advertised on the Beck Clown Rodeo Show, they must be getting desperate.
For only $149 dollars, you can plant up to an acre of seeds in your apartment!
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freetoken Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:06:27pm |
OT already: The true scandal of the climate-change-scaremongers: misogyny!
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Randall Gross Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:07:38pm |
Of course when it comes to truly scary, nothing beats "Night of the Lepus".....
/what could be more frightening than killer rabbits?
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darthstar Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:07:53pm |
re: #16 freetoken
OT already: The true scandal of the climate-change-scaremongers: misogyny!
Well, maybe they're afraid hot flashes throw off the readings on their instruments...did you ever think of THAT?
/
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theheat Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:08:44pm |
re: #10 Thanos
Not to be confused with Attack of the Giant Leeches...
Even worse than fluoride in the water.
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darthstar Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:08:55pm |
re: #17 Thanos
Of course when it comes to truly scary, nothing beats "Night of the Lepus"...
[Video]/what could be more frightening than killer rabbits?
I watched that once on late night television when I was really, really stoned in college. Excellent cinematography. Stellar acting. Good dope.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:09:34pm |
re: #12 Cato the Elder
If this kind of ripoff scam is what's being advertised on the Beck Clown Rodeo Show, they must be getting desperate.
Check out their website. These people are goddamn vultures.
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theheat Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:09:38pm |
re: #16 freetoken
Are they shirtless? Otherwise, I'm not interested.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:10:47pm |
Boing Boing linked to the Dangerous Minds interview, and guess what happened in their thread? Yep. More stalkers.
[Link: www.boingboing.net...]
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freetoken Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:11:22pm |
re: #22 theheat
Are they shirtless? Otherwise, I'm not interested.
The political head of the newly appointed group is Gordon Brown, PM of the UK. You really want to see him shirtless?
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zora Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:12:18pm |
"Indestructible Survival Seed Bank Can Be Buried To Avoid Confiscation."
you know, for when the government comes for your seeds.
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:12:46pm |
Every far-right site you go to is overrun with ads for Crisis gardens, guns, generators, and solar power systems. They seem to actually yearn for the end of civilization and the return of mob rule. Of course the only reason they will actually need any of those is if they topple the government and upend the monetary system because of their own actions. Maybe that is why they can be seen advocating exactly that in their comments on dozens of sites?
Some of these people have apparently watched "Mad Max" far too many times. Perhaps we should make more effort to convince them that if civilization goes then the internet will go with it. If nothing else that might scare them enough to make them stop...
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:12:54pm |
Website's got a picture of a little blond moppet running among cabbages with a caption: "What will your family eat when the grocery store shelves are empty?"
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theheat Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:12:56pm |
re: #24 freetoken
Ewwww, no thanks, I'll wait for the ones that make the Climate Change Calendar.
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darthstar Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:13:21pm |
re: #25 zora
"Indestructible Survival Seed Bank Can Be Buried To Avoid Confiscation."
you know, for when the government comes for your seeds.
But if it springs a leak, you'll end up with a gigantic plant with an acre's wroth of food growing off of it.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:13:27pm |
re: #23 Charles
Boing Boing linked to the Dangerous Minds interview, and guess what happened in their thread? Yep. More stalkers.
[Link: www.boingboing.net...]
Charlz baned me just for disagreing with him! He's so not Kooool!!
//
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darthstar Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:14:35pm |
re: #27 SanFranciscoZionist
Website's got a picture of a little blond moppet running among cabbages with a caption: "What will your family eat when the grocery store shelves are empty?"
Kind of answers itself.
/
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:15:07pm |
re: #25 zora
"Indestructible Survival Seed Bank Can Be Buried To Avoid Confiscation."
you know, for when the government comes for your seeds.
I'd upding that one again if I could. ;)
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Kragar Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:15:22pm |
re: #4 Charles
Oddly enough, it was titled "The Mole People." Starring John Agar.
[Video]
Watched the MST3K version of that last night oddly enough.
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jamesfirecat Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:16:38pm |
re: #26 ausador
Every far-right site you go to is overrun with ads for Crisis gardens, guns, generators, and solar power systems. They seem to actually yearn for the end of civilization and the return of mob rule. Of course the only reason they will actually need any of those is if they topple the government and upend the monetary system because of their own actions. Maybe that is why they can be seen advocating exactly that in their comments on dozens of sites?
Some of these people have apparently watched "Mad Max" far too many times. Perhaps we should make more effort to convince them that if civilization goes then the internet will go with it. If nothing else that might scare them enough to make them stop...
So that's what it takes to get the right wing to support green energy!
(You did say Solar power systems)
We liberals should make them think we're trying to take over the world more often!
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Kragar Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:17:40pm |
I for one will continue to stockpile hockey masks, loinclothes, nitrous for my custom dune buggy and practice my "Just walk away" speech in preparation for the collapse of society.
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Kragar Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:18:51pm |
re: #19 theheat
Not to be confused with Attack of the Giant Leeches...
[Video]
Even worse than fluoride in the water.
Watched that one the night before, I guess I'll have to watch the killer shrew MST3k tonight to round out the cycle.
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Donna Ballard Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:19:34pm |
re: #25 zora
"Indestructible Survival Seed Bank Can Be Buried To Avoid Confiscation."
you know, for when the government comes for your seeds.
Um, wha kind of seed we talkin bout? Ganja?/ Poppy?/ Wha?
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:19:40pm |
re: #12 Cato the Elder
If this kind of ripoff scam is what's being advertised on the Beck Clown Rodeo Show, they must be getting desperate.
It's speshul gold. From conflict areas. So you know it will withstand the pressure when America turns into the Congo.
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SpaceJesus Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:19:54pm |
southerners cancel prom because lesbian might come
[Link: www.usatoday.com...]
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RadicalModerate Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:20:17pm |
Holy hell.
Just when I thought that the lunatics on the right couldn't go any lower, I find out once again that I'm sadly mistaken.
I stumbled across this bit of targeted marketing while clicking on some Google ad links a few days ago, and thought that reporting the content to the hosting site (Zazzle) would have gotten it yanked, because this goes waaaaay over the line. Unfortunately, the products are still there.
Linking the cached page, because I don't think they deserve the traffic over this kind of crap.
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Donna Ballard Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:20:24pm |
re: #36 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I for one will continue to stockpile hockey masks, loinclothes, nitrous for my custom dune buggy and practice my "Just walk away" speech in preparation for the collapse of society.
You are a kick in the pants dude! LOL! Upding for you!
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RogueOne Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:22:23pm |
I have to run folks. Everyone have a good night. I might get back later on my Droid.
Obdi, didn't mean to come across as snippy with you earlier, no offense meant.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:22:32pm |
re: #26 ausador
Every far-right site you go to is overrun with ads for Crisis gardens, guns, generators, and solar power systems. They seem to actually yearn for the end of civilization and the return of mob rule. Of course the only reason they will actually need any of those is if they topple the government and upend the monetary system because of their own actions. Maybe that is why they can be seen advocating exactly that in their comments on dozens of sites?
Some of these people have apparently watched "Mad Max" far too many times. Perhaps we should make more effort to convince them that if civilization goes then the internet will go with it. If nothing else that might scare them enough to make them stop...
Consideingr some of the possible scenarios that could present themselves if global warming continues on it's upward trend, it certainly may be a good thing that individuals consider some "self preservation" ideas... in case they are needed.
Granted, I suspect Glen Beck has a different motivation behind his reasoning, but aside from his loony "government versus us" mentality, I see no reason to dismiss the whole concept out of hand, for better reasons then his.
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theheat Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:22:39pm |
re: #36 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Personally, I always wanted to ride horseback and do the "They Cannot Take Our Freedom" Braveheart thing. Cool horses trump dune buggies. Of course, they might also eat my crisis garden.
Freedom Speech Fail.
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Jeff In Ohio Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:23:56pm |
re: #8 freetoken
Non-hybrid seeds are a big deal in the survivalist/doomer world. And yes, Mormons seem to gravitate to survivalism. I remember pre-Y2K Art Bell pimping MRE's from Utah, emphasizing the Mormon connection.
The survivalist are especially hostile to GMO foods.
Non hybrid seeds and seed banking are of interest to anyone who is interested in seed stock diversity and heirloom plants. Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't. If you've ever eaten a heirloom tomato like a German Stripe or an apple of a real Ohio Weathy apple tree, you'll know what I mean.
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Kragar Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:24:57pm |
re: #45 theheat
Personally, I always wanted to ride horseback and do the "They Cannot Take Our Freedom" Braveheart thing. Cool horses trump dune buggies. Of course, they might also eat my crisis garden.
Freedom Speech Fail.
I am gravely dissapointed. Again you make me unleash my dogs of war.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:25:43pm |
Yesterday's Jon Stewart segment on the Beck Massa-cree.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:26:56pm |
re: #13 freetoken
Don't forget the overpriced gold that's been there from day 1.
It's speshul gold. From conflict areas. So you know it will withstand the pressure when America turns into the Congo.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:28:10pm |
re: #49 Cato the Elder
It's speshul gold. From conflict areas. So you know it will withstand the pressure when America turns into the Congo.
Laugh if you want, but when President Luap Nor returns us to the Gold Standard (r), I'll have the last laugh!!!!
//
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:30:07pm |
"Yes. A crisis garden. When the end times come and you’re tilling the earth with a human femur, while the sky is raining fire, you’re gonna want a reliable source of radicchio and mini-squash."
Brilliant.
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Digital Display Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:31:32pm |
re: #23 Charles
Boing Boing linked to the Dangerous Minds interview, and guess what happened in their thread? Yep. More stalkers.
[Link: www.boingboing.net...]
Charles..Excellent posts on that thread you made...
I have always said you are a man of Principle and will voice your beliefs and stand for what you you feel is right...
That is what I call courage..Kudo's
/Man that one post was almost like going into the Al Pacino speech in the Scent of a Woman
To some readers..That left a mark...With class
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Kragar Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:31:38pm |
Basic economics teach us that an item is only worth as much as we perceive its worth to be. In a true societal collapse, gold coins and bars would probably be nothing more than pretty paper weights.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:32:21pm |
re: #53 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Basic economics teach us that an item is only worth as much as we perceive its worth to be. In a true societal collapse, gold coins and bars would probably be nothing more than pretty paper weights.
But non-hybrid seeds will always be valuable!
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freetoken Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:32:28pm |
Russian court jails nine over racist killing
Nine members of a Russian white supremacist group have been jailed for up to 22 years each in connection with the killing of a man from Cameroon.
Three of the group, known as Simbirsk White Power, were convicted of the racially motivated murder of Etizok Ndobe Ernest in the city of Ulyanovsk.Investigators said his throat was cut and he was stabbed repeatedly on his way home from work as a DJ in 2008.
It is the latest in a series of cases involving racist attacks in Russia.
Eastern Europe has its own problems that get overshadowed by the Islam-fear in the western parts of Europe. So many groups, so much hatred.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:33:02pm |
re: #53 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Basic economics teach us that an item is only worth as much as we perceive its worth to be. In a true societal collapse, gold coins and bars would probably be nothing more than pretty paper weights.
Booze, cigarettes and spices (you know to help with the rabbit, pigeons and squirrels we'll have to eat)
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SixDegrees Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:33:24pm |
re: #8 freetoken
Non-hybrid seeds are a big deal in the survivalist/doomer world. And yes, Mormons seem to gravitate to survivalism. I remember pre-Y2K Art Bell pimping MRE's from Utah, emphasizing the Mormon connection.
The survivalist are especially hostile to GMO foods.
Mormons have been urged to build up and maintain a year's supply of food for their family since near their inception. Life in the desert country of Utah wasn't easy or predictable; it was a doctrine that made a whole lot of sense at the time.
It's also one reason why they forbid drinking. Too much food - grain, corn - was being turned into alcohol at a time when starvation was common among subsistence farmers.
Probably not as applicable today, although the family in Haiti who squirreled away canned and dried goods is probably feeling more smug than his neighbors these days.
Not sure what the opposition to GM foods is about; I hear that mostly from misinformed environmentalists. I'd tend to agree that over-reliance on a handful of hybrid seed stocks, planted in thousand square mile monoculture, is an idea that has some real serious downsides to it, not the least of which is reliance on agribusiness for next year's seed. Of course, that problem has been around since the introduction of F1 hybrids.
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researchok Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:33:41pm |
re: #50 rwdflynavy
Laugh if you want, but when President Luap Nor returns us to the Gold Standard (r), I'll have the last laugh!!!
//
That was good!
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Kragar Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:35:07pm |
re: #56 Stanley Sea
Booze, cigarettes and spices (you know to help with the rabbit, pigeons and squirrels we'll have to eat)
Guns, ammo, medicines and basic how to books.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:35:21pm |
If you like post-societal-collapse fiction, I highly recommend Octavia Butler's The Parable of the Sower. Excellent book.
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goddamnedfrank Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:35:32pm |
re: #53 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Basic economics teach us that an item is only worth as much as we perceive its worth to be. In a true societal collapse, gold coins and bars would probably be nothing more than pretty paper weights.
Exactly, which is why is stick to hoarding things that I literally couldn't live without, like canned smoked trout and my blood pressure medications.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:36:51pm |
re: #59 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Guns, ammo, medicines and basic how to books.
"There are two kinds of people, those have a gun and those that dig. I have the gun, you dig."
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Randall Gross Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:37:34pm |
re: #48 Cato the Elder
Yesterday's Jon Stewart segment on the Beck Massa-cree.
[Link: www.thedailyshow.com...]
It was hilarious, and I respect Jon for not stooping to "Massa Baiting" like I did...
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freetoken Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:37:57pm |
Kinda back on topic:
Christians Urged to Boycott Glenn Beck
Hmmmm... will future church historians look back on this day and define a new heresy: Beckianism?
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uninformed opinion Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:40:30pm |
Has anyone used Texas' babbling as a marketing ploy yet?
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:41:07pm |
re: #64 freetoken
Kinda back on topic:
Christians Urged to Boycott Glenn Beck
Hmmm... will future church historians look back on this day and define a new heresy: Beckianism?
It's the Church of Strictly Optional Concern for the Widow and Orphan.
Feh.
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brookly red Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:44:01pm |
re: #65 uninformed opinion
Has anyone used Texas' babbling as a marketing ploy yet?
brilliant... lemmie call my boss :)
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Kragar Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:44:13pm |
re: #48 Cato the Elder
Yesterday's Jon Stewart segment on the Beck Massa-cree.
[Link: www.thedailyshow.com...]
Worst Penthouse Forum letter EVER.
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uninformed opinion Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:45:36pm |
re: #68 brookly red
brilliant... lemmie call my boss :)
I like how some people think its actually possible.
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Randall Gross Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:46:12pm |
Woman fearing Apocalypse tries to halt Collider
[Link: news.cnet.com...]
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:47:35pm |
re: #71 Thanos
Woman fearing Apocalypse tries to halt Collider
[Link: news.cnet.com...]
[Link: www.cyriak.co.uk...]
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Digital Display Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:48:55pm |
re: #52 HoosierHoops
To some readers..That left a mark...With class
And speaking of class.. Cause this has bothered me for awhile..
After the great Flounce of 2009...There have been thousands of posting made about it...I'm a Moderate American that watched in horror at what was said..
I'm looking at you Stalker blog.. 99% of you have show absolutely no class at all...Charles told you to get off his blog and you have bitched about it for a year in the most vulgar and vile terms and postings..EVERY SINGLE DAY!
There are a few ex-lizards over there that are great people and show class and grace and are super smart.. Be more like them...
Your anger is your shame kids
And just so you know this is not one of those /rant things off
This post is stone cold.. Near absolute Zero .
Show some class and grow the fuck up...
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brookly red Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:49:34pm |
re: #71 Thanos
Woman fearing Apocalypse tries to halt Collider
[Link: news.cnet.com...]
well it looks scary...
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Kragar Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:52:00pm |
re: #71 Thanos
Woman fearing Apocalypse tries to halt Collider
[Link: news.cnet.com...]
She's wasting valuable time she could be using to appease the volcano god.
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Shiplord Kirel Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:52:20pm |
Beyond parody.....
Palin and Pawlenty to help Bachmann raise cash
Sarah Palin and Tim Pawlenty, two potential rivals for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination, will meet in Minneapolis next month to help raise money for Rep. Michele Bachmann, an outspoken conservative and popular figure among Tea Party activists.
Palin had previously announced that she would campaign for Bachmann this spring, and Bachmann's campaign followed up Thursday with the announcement that the former Alaska governor will host an April 7 fundraiser for the Bachmann's re-election campaign.
But Bachmann's campaign also announced that Pawlenty, the Minnesota governor, will be one of several "Honorary Hosts" for the fundraiser - adding an extra layer of 2012 intrigue to the event.
It should be quite an entertaining evening withal.
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freetoken Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:52:25pm |
re: #67 iceweasel
They just don't want it shoved down their throats.
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Obdicut Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:52:58pm |
re: #76 Shiplord Kirel
I used to think Pawlenty would be somebody to help the GOP get back on track.
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Shiplord Kirel Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:53:26pm |
re: #75 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
She's wasting valuable time she could be using to appease the volcano god.
She's afraid it will warp the flat earth into a disastrously mal-formed spherical shape.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:54:36pm |
re: #75 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
She's wasting valuable time she could be using to appease the volcano god.
God hates Chili and Hatey!!
//
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freetoken Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:54:41pm |
re: #79 iceweasel
Heh. Or 'rammed'.
You'll have to double check with Cato, but I think you misspelled it. Try "rahmmed" instead.
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ryannon Thu, Mar 11, 2010 3:55:31pm |
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:00:08pm |
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wrenchwench Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:00:35pm |
Finally got to watch the clip. I've been busy honing my post-apocalyptic skill set: fixing bicycles. I've been working on an old Peugeot. It's so old, it has wingnuts. The thing about real wingnuts is there's a left wingnut and a right wingnut. So it doesn't work for me as a political descriptor.
Back to work.
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Donna Ballard Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:02:37pm |
Gonna log out now, I have a bit of a headache, Tootle loo! Have a nice evening and Keep Laughing!
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Obdicut Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:06:32pm |
re: #86 wrenchwench
When I lived in England I had a cast iron postman's bike that weighed 42 pounds.
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Randall Gross Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:06:34pm |
re: #86 wrenchwench
Finally got to watch the clip. I've been busy honing my post-apocalyptic skill set: fixing bicycles. I've been working on an old Peugeot. It's so old, it has wingnuts. The thing about real wingnuts is there's a left wingnut and a right wingnut. So it doesn't work for me as a political descriptor.
Back to work.
Just remember:
It's not really an apocalypse unless there are Zombies.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:08:00pm |
It's amazing they're getting people to fork over $150 for what's probably about $20 worth of seeds. Suckers!
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Digital Display Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:09:07pm |
re: #87 Dragon_Lady
Gonna log out now, I have a bit of a headache, Tootle loo! Have a nice evening and Keep Laughing!
Be well..
I always will bring a laugh to a room..Ask Walter.. Sometimes when he gets really cranky I'll call him up and ruin his whole mood...
/Walter has a nice laugh and a good spirit..
Sorry Walter.. I outed you bitch *wink*
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:10:31pm |
re: #91 HoosierHoops
Be well..
I always will bring a laugh to a room..Ask Walter.. Sometimes when he gets really cranky I'll call him up and ruin his whole mood...
/Walter has a nice laugh and a good spirit..
Sorry Walter.. I outed you bitch *wink*
I have no idea what you are talking about?
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Digital Display Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:11:11pm |
re: #92 Walter L. Newton
I have no idea what you are talking about?
I'm teasing you.. I've enjoyed our conversations
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:11:27pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:14:02pm |
What do you get if you cross a Mormon and a kleptomanaic?
A basement full of stolen wheat.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:14:16pm |
Crisis gardens!
bah! as if we don't see through this transparent ploy to co-opt the people into subsistence agricultural collectives!
You're not fooling anyone, you know!
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Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:14:42pm |
re: #94 Slumbering Behemoth
Fear has a way of making people stupid. Now, let's talk about that gold you were interested in buying.
/
Gold sure has been on a run lately but I suspect that'll end as the economic crisis winds down over the next couple years. I don't know how oversaturated the gold market is, nobody's predicting a gold crash that I've seen.
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freetoken Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:16:22pm |
As I'm sure you all remember, WND informed us last year of the shocking truth that the Girl Scouts are nothing more than a recruitment/training center for lesbianism.
Well, that devious group, The World Association of Girl Scouts and Girl Guides, now is fronting for a UN inspired assault on the family, lead by Planned Parenthood:
Girl Scouts OK Pro-Abortion Planned Parenthood Sex Guide at United Nations Mtg
Wendy Wright, president of Concerned Women of America told the Friday Fax, “Governments and NGOs should be aware of Planned Parenthood’s insidious plan to work with UN agencies and girls’ organizations in order to profit from encouraging kids to be sexually active.”
Be afraid, very afraid, of those cookie-pushers in your neighborhood.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:16:55pm |
re: #97 Killgore Trout
Gold sure has been on a run lately but I suspect that'll end as the economic crisis winds down over the next couple years. I don't know how oversaturated the gold market is, nobody's predicting a gold crash that I've seen.
Radically over-priced in comparison to other commodities. The run-up was from folk trying to diversify commodities portfolios; once you've done oil and ag and such, all that's left really is metals. Silver went through a bit of a run-up on speculation that Indian buyers were gonna swamp the bourses, but nothing much came of it, either.
In a real crisis, gold is worse than useless. Try trading a krugerrand for a chicken.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:18:02pm |
I wonder if medical marijuana seeds are included in that priced-to-go little tube of crap.
Because dope will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no dope - at least according to the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers.
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Ericus58 Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:18:09pm |
Here's today poem from The Writer's Almanac.
For Cato.
and I think my wife who would see her own father perhaps being described...
Retriever
by Faith Shearin
My father, in middle age, falls in love with a dog.
He who kicked dogs in anger when I was a child,
who liked his comb always on the same shelf,
who drank martinis to make his mind quiet.
He who worked and worked—his shirts
wrapped in plastic, his heart ironed
like a collar. He who—like so many men—
loved his children but thought the money
he made for them was more important
than the rough tweed of his presence.
The love of my father's later years is
a Golden Retriever—more red
than yellow—a nervous dog who knows
his work clothes from his casual ones,
can read his creased face, who waits for
him at the front door—her paws crossed
like a child's arms. She doesn't berate him
for being late, doesn't need new shoes
or college. There is no pressure to raise her
right, which is why she chews the furniture,
pees on rugs, barks at strangers who
cross the lawn. She is his responsible soul
broken free. She is the children he couldn't
come home to made young again.
She is like my mother but never angry,
always devoted. He cooks for his dog—
my father who raised us in restaurants—
and takes her on business trips like
a wife. Sometimes, sitting beside her
in the hair-filled fan he drives to make
her more comfortable, my father's dog
turns her head to one side as if
thinking and, in this pose, more than
one of us has mistaken her for a person.
We would be jealous if she didn't make
him so happy—he who never took
more than one trip on his expensive
sailboat, whose Mercedes was wrecked
by a valet. My mother saw him behind
the counter of a now-fallen fast food
restaurant when she was nineteen.
They kissed beside a river where fish
no longer swim. My father who was
always serious has fallen in love with
a dog. What can I do but be happy for him?
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freetoken Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:18:48pm |
re: #97 Killgore Trout
Gold production has been declining these past few years, even with the price being so high.
Heh... so much for the free-market fundamentalists' claims...
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:19:00pm |
re: #97 Killgore Trout
I honestly don't know much about the market, all I know is that when the dollar is weak, gold goes up, and when the dollar is strong, gold goes down.
If I had any significant quantities of gold, I'd be tempted to sell now while it's high, and reinvest that into the stock market. But then again, I don't know squat about investing.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:19:01pm |
As you may or may not know, each Mormon ward has a guy or gal in charge of keeping us prepared for emergencies. (I will continue to harp on the 72 hour kits, because we all need one.)
Ours just got us a deal on 15,000 seeds.
$15.
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Digital Display Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:19:48pm |
re: #97 Killgore Trout
Gold sure has been on a run lately but I suspect that'll end as the economic crisis winds down over the next couple years. I don't know how oversaturated the gold market is, nobody's predicting a gold crash that I've seen.
Last month there was a piece in the WSJ that said Obama should declare he is selling Gold from FT. Knox.. Not really do it.. Just to drive the price down down 500 dollars in one day just to punish all the rich white guys that lost faith in the American dollar and invested in gold..
They don't accept Gold at McDonalds..
You pawned America dollars for Gold.. Pay the price...
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Guanxi88 Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:20:21pm |
re: #100 Cato the Elder
I wonder if medical marijuana seeds are included in that priced-to-go little tube of crap.
Because dope will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no dope - at least according to the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers.
Tobacco seeds have been, and continue, to sell like hotcakes as folk try to grow their own for a hobby and to get around the tax-man. Thing is, a good yield on a plant is about 4 ounces, maybe enough, if the quality is good, and if you process it correctly, to make about 5 packs of low-grade smokes. Small-time growers (say, less than 5 or so acres) can't get enough grown to even begin to process it properly. Funny stuff, though, the idea of gardening your way through a crisis.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:20:22pm |
re: #99 Guanxi88
In a real crisis, gold is worse than useless. Try trading a krugerrand for a chicken.
Word! If you're betting on a real crisis, invest in lead.
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prairiefire Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:20:30pm |
re: #96 Guanxi88
My grandpa helped get Co-OP off the ground back in the day. He went around to the farmers with a slide show presentation.[Link: www.manhattan.coop...]
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:21:22pm |
re: #107 Slumbering Behemoth
Word! If you're betting on a real crisis, invest in lead.
No... quicksilver.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:21:31pm |
re: #107 Slumbering Behemoth
Word! If you're betting on a real crisis, invest in lead.
ballistic wampum, I've heard it called.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:21:36pm |
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Guanxi88 Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:24:20pm |
As a practical matter, and as i've said before: if a real depression seems likely to you, you'd be a fool NOT to invest in tobacco and booze, whether as stock and companies, or as contraband goods.
The worse things get, the more folk'll pay for a smoke and drink to chase the blues away.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:24:37pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:24:47pm |
re: #109 Walter L. Newton
I've got a cinnabar mine. I make my own.
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uninformed opinion Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:25:14pm |
re: #97 Killgore Trout
Gold sure has been on a run lately but I suspect that'll end as the economic crisis winds down over the next couple years. I don't know how oversaturated the gold market is, nobody's predicting a gold crash that I've seen.
The whole thing is hype by powerful people to profit more.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:25:49pm |
re: #112 Guanxi88
Coffee beans and pr0n. And crack sheets.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:26:08pm |
re: #114 Slumbering Behemoth
I've got a cinnabar mine. I make my own.
I've been reading to much Stephenson. He cleverly builds a big part of the economy in the 1600's around piss.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:27:00pm |
re: #112 Guanxi88
As a practical matter, and as i've said before: if a real depression seems likely to you, you'd be a fool NOT to invest in tobacco and booze, whether as stock and companies, or as contraband goods.
The worse things get, the more folk'll pay for a smoke and drink to chase the blues away.
It's really not a bad idea to have some non-perishable staples salted away in your basement. Oats, rice, other grains, powdered milk, sugar, salt, oil, tinned food, etc.
Enough, say, to get you through an earthquake scenario or something.
One doesn't have to be an end-timer to plan for contingencies.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:27:22pm |
re: #117 Walter L. Newton
I've been reading to much Stephenson. He cleverly builds a big part of the economy in the 1600's around piss.
Saltpetre man's a powerful guy. The national defense was in his hands, so to speak.
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brookly red Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:27:55pm |
re: #115 uninformed opinion
The whole thing is hype by powerful people to profit more.
/well that is pretty much the nature of the universe...
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:28:34pm |
re: #120 brookly red
/well that is pretty much the nature of the universe...
He gumba... what cho doin'
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Digital Display Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:29:28pm |
re: #104 EmmmieG
As you may or may not know, each Mormon ward has a guy or gal in charge of keeping us prepared for emergencies. (I will continue to harp on the 72 hour kits, because we all need one.)
Ours just got us a deal on 15,000 seeds.
$15.
I'm thinking in the 2st Century we move beyond seeds for survival.. ( cause you know everybody in the Cities die first )
It's all about logistics...
If you think it's almost the end of the world as we know it.. Send me 20 bucks a month...When the world Collapses I promise you supplies will flow by air and ground transportation for you and your family..Kind of a Meals on Wheels for the End times...
*Light bulb goes off*
/Anybody have the number to Fox Marketing?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:29:56pm |
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Guanxi88 Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:31:06pm |
re: #118 Cato the Elder
It's really not a bad idea to have some non-perishable staples salted away in your basement. Oats, rice, other grains, powdered milk, sugar, salt, oil, tinned food, etc.
Enough, say, to get you through an earthquake scenario or something.
One doesn't have to be an end-timer to plan for contingencies.
Well, of course, and no responsible person doesn't keep some stuff on hand; but the self-dramatizing gesture of buying nitrogen-packed heirloom seeds so you can practice subsistence agriculture following the inevitable collapse of EVERYTHING brought on by the policies of your political adversary....
well, if I found my thoughts running along those lines, I think I might just pull up stakes, 'cause if my survival comes down to growing beans and tomatoes (although what shall I eat while my crop grows, and how shall I store it, and what if I f*ck it up and it dies like my lawn?), then I doubt things'll turn around before I've got to plant my next crop.
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uninformed opinion Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:31:10pm |
re: #120 brookly red
/well that is pretty much the nature of the universe...
Of course. The situation with gold is pretty ridiculous, all of the mass media pandering. In the end when the gold market corrects and prices drop, there are going to be some folk who feel misled.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:31:47pm |
OT--I have a swollen and sore bit on the roof of my mouth. It's on one side, behind the back teeth. I can feel a corresponding bump on the other side of the mouth, but not swollen or painful.
When I swallow, feels like broken glass in ear. Is this a lymph node, or a salivary gland, or what, and is there anything I can do to bring it down?
| 127 |
prairiefire Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:33:01pm |
re: #126 SanFranciscoZionist
Gargling with salt water will help. I hope you didn't get an ear infection from your congestion.
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brookly red Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:33:07pm |
re: #118 Cato the Elder
It's really not a bad idea to have some non-perishable staples salted away in your basement. Oats, rice, other grains, powdered milk, sugar, salt, oil, tinned food, etc.
Enough, say, to get you through an earthquake scenario or something.
One doesn't have to be an end-timer to plan for contingencies.
cash... keep cash on hand. I have been through an number of blackouts and there is nothing sadder that the look on a yuppies face when they realize their plastic won't work.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:33:58pm |
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:34:02pm |
re: #101 Ericus58
That was wonderful. Thank you!
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Guanxi88 Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:35:19pm |
re: #117 Walter L. Newton
I've been reading to much Stephenson. He cleverly builds a big part of the economy in the 1600's around piss.
Interesting book "Farmers of Forty Centuries" - a book about traditional Chinese agricultural practices, has quite a bit to say about the night-soil men, whose efforts, in combination with the amazing system of organization that was ancient Chinese agriculture, made the whole system work. Think of it - no known soil depletion until the introduction of "modern" improvements in agricultural practice, and China's population was always large.
Anywho, the night-soil man was one of the most-feared and respected of the lower classes - there were penalties for folk who were thought to be "holding out" on the emperor.
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darthstar Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:36:06pm |
Wow...Harry Reid's wife broke her back & neck in that accident today...Daughter not as seriously injured. Rear-ended by a semi.
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brookly red Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:36:49pm |
re: #125 uninformed opinion
Of course. The situation with gold is pretty ridiculous, all of the mass media pandering. In the end when the gold market corrects and prices drop, there are going to be some folk who feel misled.
again, the same with any market... I bought gold & silver years ago when the price was low. buy low sell high.
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prairiefire Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:37:36pm |
re: #132 darthstar
Man, that's a nasty one. Prayers for their health.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:37:42pm |
re: #132 darthstar
Wow...Harry Reid's wife broke her back & neck in that accident today...Daughter not as seriously injured. Rear-ended by a semi.
Bad news.
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:38:26pm |
Apologies if this was posted (I'm still catching up on the news):
Nancy Pelosi's office was told of concerns about Eric Massa (in October)
Joe Racalto, Massa's chief of staff, was uneasy that Massa, 50, was living with several young, unmarried male staffers and using sexually explicit language with them, one source said. But what finally prompted him to call Pelosi's director of member services, the source said, was a lunch date that Massa made with a congressional aide in his 20s who worked in the office of Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.).
According to a person briefed on the call, Racalto was concerned that the lunch followed a pattern by Massa -- who is married and has two children -- of trying to spend time alone with young gay men with no ostensible work purpose. Racalto, according to this person, also alerted Frank's chief of staff. The sources spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the political sensitivity of the matter.
Barney Frank released a statement confirming that detail, but says it wasn't a lunch date, but a dinner date.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:39:03pm |
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Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:39:11pm |
re: #124 Guanxi88
cause if my survival comes down to growing beans and tomatoes (although what shall I eat while my crop grows, and how shall I store it, and what if I f*ck it up and it dies like my lawn?), then I doubt things'll turn around before I've got to plant my next crop.
I've been gardening for 10 years and only now am I getting close to growing all my own food. It takes a lot of practice and most of the knowledge was lost a few generations ago. Anyone dumb enough to pay $150 for a package of seeds doesn't have a chance at survival.
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brookly red Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:39:30pm |
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Taqyia2Me Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:39:43pm |
re: #132 darthstar
Wow...Harry Reid's wife broke her back & neck in that accident today...Daughter not as seriously injured. Rear-ended by a semi.
Thoughts and prayers go out to Sen Reid's wife and daughter, and Harry and their family too.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:39:56pm |
I was just cleaning out my closet, and having to explain to my daughter how photographs USED to work.
See, you didn't know how they would turn out until you had them developed, and got them back. This led to a closet full of medoicre-to-poor photos, with the rare good ones on the wall. And things called "negatives." You couldn't just look at them on the monitor, and decide which ones to post on facebook.
I also found another antique. A little book for carrying around photos and showing them to people. Because, you know, there was no other way for people to see your photos.
She's looking at this stuff curiously, and considering making a scrapbook of just her as a baby. She was the cutest one, after all.
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Digital Display Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:40:05pm |
re: #106 Guanxi88
Tobacco seeds have been, and continue, to sell like hotcakes as folk try to grow their own for a hobby and to get around the tax-man. Thing is, a good yield on a plant is about 4 ounces, maybe enough, if the quality is good, and if you process it correctly, to make about 5 packs of low-grade smokes. Small-time growers (say, less than 5 or so acres) can't get enough grown to even begin to process it properly. Funny stuff, though, the idea of gardening your way through a crisis.
I say we spy on Cuba.. Send the Seals..Steal their seeds and grow Cuban Cigars right here in the USA...USA! USA!
We are so afraid to have trade with Cuba.. For God's sake.. If they had a pool of oil under Cuba.. Clinton right now and sending the 3rd Marines to free the Cuban people..
Cuba has wonderful people, Great Athletes and wonderful cigars...
Too bad they don't have oil.
/
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freetoken Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:40:10pm |
This story has been out there all day, but I link to the following paper because it has a strong comments section:
News reports debunking the myth that President Obama is a Muslim did nothing to dissuade religious conservatives from believing the rumor, according to research by a University of Georgia professor.
Despite the best efforts of journalists, people on both the left and the right tend to believe what they want to believe whether it's true or not, said the paper's author, UGA journalism professor Barry Hollander.[...]
A birther or two in the comments, a few believe Obama is a Muslim, etc. Wait until the story is put up at FoxNation.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:40:14pm |
re: #138 Killgore Trout
I've been gardening for 10 years and only now am I getting close to growing all my own food. It takes a lot of practice and most of the knowledge was lost a few generations ago. Anyone dumb enough to pay $150 for a package of seeds doesn't have a chance at survival.
hey, there's something to be said for the idea of doing just that - exploiting them. Better you get something outta these people NOW than later, 'cause if they're dumb enough to part with that kinda cash, they're not gonna have it for very much longer.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:40:24pm |
re: #132 darthstar
Wow...Harry Reid's wife broke her back & neck in that accident today...Daughter not as seriously injured. Rear-ended by a semi.
Wow. Hope they will be OK.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:40:30pm |
re: #131 Guanxi88
Interesting book "Farmers of Forty Centuries" - a book about traditional Chinese agricultural practices, has quite a bit to say about the night-soil men, whose efforts, in combination with the amazing system of organization that was ancient Chinese agriculture, made the whole system work. Think of it - no known soil depletion until the introduction of "modern" improvements in agricultural practice, and China's population was always large.
Anywho, the night-soil man was one of the most-feared and respected of the lower classes - there were penalties for folk who were thought to be "holding out" on the emperor.
Like a lot of thing, I certainly don't know everything, and I was amazed at the night-soil trade, and the way Stephenson weaved it into his plot, history changing plot point, around uric acid and creating phosphorus, and then using the phosphorus in a number of attempts on Sir Isaac Newton's life.
| 147 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:40:44pm |
re: #126 SanFranciscoZionist
When I swallow, feels like broken glass in ear. Is this a lymph node, or a salivary gland, or what, and is there anything I can do to bring it down?
Hmmm, some kind of anti-inflamitory might be a good idea. Have you tried good old aspirin yet?
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brookly red Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:42:50pm |
re: #142 HoosierHoops
I say we spy on Cuba.. Send the Seals..Steal their seeds and grow Cuban Cigars right here in the USA...USA! USA!
We are so afraid to have trade with Cuba.. For God's sake.. If they had a pool of oil under Cuba.. Clinton right now and sending the 3rd Marines to free the Cuban people..
Cuba has wonderful people, Great Athletes and wonderful cigars...
Too bad they don't have oil.
/
one of the main economic differences between Haiti & the DR is that the DR has a cigar industry built up by Cuban's that fled Castro.
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prairiefire Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:43:09pm |
re: #135 SanFranciscoZionist
I think you should go to the Dr., SFZ.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:43:55pm |
re: #131 Guanxi88
Anywho, the night-soil man was one of the most-feared and respected of the lower classes - there were penalties for folk who were thought to be "holding out" on the emperor.
There's a filthy joke among some ROC types about the difference in government under the Reds on the mainland.
"in the old days, your sh*t fed the Emperor; under Mao, the Emperor feeds you sh*t" - or words to that effect. They assure me there's a wonderful symmetry to the phrase that cannot be conveyed in barbaric western languages.
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Mocking Jay Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:44:25pm |
Wow. I just visited their page:
"Indestructible Survival Seed Bank Can Be Buried To Avoid Confiscation."
They're coming for our seeds, too?
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:44:37pm |
Speaking of Monty Python...
My first trip to Europe, I took the boat. In fact, I booked passage on a Russian ocean liner, the Mikhail Lermontov. She later sank off the coast of New Zealand.
The voyage to Bremerhaven, where I got off, took ten days, including day-long stops in Le Havre and Southampton. Those were the first two European cities I ever saw.
From Southampton I took the train up to London. People had told me not to miss trying real fish-and-chips. Others had said to go for the delicious British bacon.
So at a streetside pub window, I ordered fish-and-chips. Then I thought about it and added a side of bacon.
The guy at the counter dropped his jaw. Then, in a perfect Pythonesque East-Sider accent, he bellows: "'Ere, this 'ere gent wants bacon with his cod and chips! Bacon! With fish-and-chips! Everybody larf at this 'ere Yank!"
Which everybody did.
I wanted to sink into the pavement, but at the same time I was proud to provide a laugh to the poor gloomy Londoners.
I recommend doing the same thing if you ever get the chance. Lessons in humiliation rarely come cheaper.
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:46:34pm |
Beck continues yesterday's crusade against 'social justice', urging people to leave churches that talk about it:
Beck: Social justice "is a perversion of the Gospel," "not what Jesus would say"
Audio at link.
Also:
Yesterday, Beck told his radio listeners to "look for the words 'social justice' or 'economic justice' on your church Web site. ... If you find [them], run as fast as you can. ... They are code words. Now, am I advising people to leave their church? Yes!"As Joe Carter noted at First Things, taking Beck's advice would require all Roman Catholics to leave that church, since "Social Justice" is -- for Catholics as for almost every longstanding Christian denomination -- an integral aspect of the church's teaching. ("Social Justice" is, in fact, the title of Section One, Chapter Two, Article 3 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church.)
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brookly red Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:47:17pm |
re: #151 JasonA
Wow. I just visited their page:
"Indestructible Survival Seed Bank Can Be Buried To Avoid Confiscation."
They're coming for our seeds, too?
personally I recommend that you keep you seed to yourself :)
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SixDegrees Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:47:38pm |
re: #126 SanFranciscoZionist
OT--I have a swollen and sore bit on the roof of my mouth. It's on one side, behind the back teeth. I can feel a corresponding bump on the other side of the mouth, but not swollen or painful.
When I swallow, feels like broken glass in ear. Is this a lymph node, or a salivary gland, or what, and is there anything I can do to bring it down?
Sounds unpleasant. Could be some sort of infection. At a minimum, the swelling and pain indicate inflammation of some sort, so something like Ibuprofen will probably help reduce it until you can get to a doctor. But I would recommend getting to a doctor as soon as possible if things don't diminish substantially by morning.
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:47:43pm |
re: #151 JasonA
Wow. I just visited their page:
"Indestructible Survival Seed Bank Can Be Buried To Avoid Confiscation."
They're coming for our seeds, too?
And our other precious bodily fluids, yes.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:47:52pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:48:09pm |
re: #149 prairiefire
I think you should go to the Dr., SFZ.
Dentist. The doctor will send you back to the dentist.
I had a child almost chew through a novocaine-numbed cheek once.
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MandyManners Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:48:11pm |
Mr Martin denied the allegation and said his release was a "great victory for the rights of journalists".
No charges were brought against Mr Martin, but he was made to leave Gaza on the orders of Hamas.
At the media conference senior Hamas leader Mahmoud Zahhar said he believed Mr Martin was "a spy".
"I address that he is a spy for Israel," Mr Zahar said, in response to a question in English from a journalist.
SNIP
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Gus Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:48:31pm |
Stephen Colbert is hilarious.
Hard to believe they're playing end-of-times commercials like this on television. I think Glenn Beck and Fox have managed to attain a new low in American popular culture. All that crazy talk about bartering seeds in troubled time.
All in all though it's another big rip-off being promoted by Glenn Beck. Not unlike those dirt bags at Goldline that sell their gold above market value.
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freetoken Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:48:57pm |
Strange, strange news day. All sorts of misc stories that add up to ... I don't know what:
Roethlisberger plays the Bill Clinton defense:
Ben Roethlisberger Admits Sexual Contact But Not Intercourse with Accuser, According to TV Station
Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger told police that he did not have sexual intercourse with the woman who has accused him of assault, according to anonymous sources cited by KDKA-TV.
The sources reportedly told the station that Roethlisberger spoke with Milledgeville, Ga. police on the night of the alleged assault and admitted sexual contact with the woman but said that it was not consummated. KDKA reports the sources said Roethlisberger told police the woman slipped and fell afterward, injuring her head.
Heh, when is sex not sex?
Walmart selling black Barbies for less than white ones?
When is a sale a sign of racism?
'Tea party' steeped in confusion
The term that evokes images of cups and saucers is now heavily associated with a political movement, muddling the identity of true tea enthusiasts.
Do True Conservatives drink true tea?
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Guanxi88 Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:49:33pm |
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:50:02pm |
re: #153 iceweasel
Beck continues yesterday's crusade against 'social justice', urging people to leave churches that talk about it:
Beck: Social justice "is a perversion of the Gospel," "not what Jesus would say"
Audio at link.
Also:
That, of course, includes the entire Catholic Church, which has a doctrine on social justice that's included in the catechism.
Congrats, Beck. You just pissed off the Pope.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:50:41pm |
re: #162 freetoken
Strange, strange news day. All sorts of misc stories that add up to ... I don't know what:
Roethlisberger plays the Bill Clinton defense:
Ben Roethlisberger Admits Sexual Contact But Not Intercourse with Accuser, According to TV Station
Do True Conservatives drink true tea?
This one does, quite regularly. Pu erh, usually, but I'll stoop to drinking even something as awful as 5 buck a pound ban-cha if that's all I can have.
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brookly red Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:50:48pm |
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Gus Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:51:05pm |
re: #153 iceweasel
Beck continues yesterday's crusade against 'social justice', urging people to leave churches that talk about it:
Beck: Social justice "is a perversion of the Gospel," "not what Jesus would say"
Audio at link.
Also:
Day 512 of Glenn Beck still being an idiot.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:51:34pm |
re: #166 brookly red
don't know that name... guessing I don't want to.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
In the Biblical Book of Genesis, Onan (Hebrew: אוֹנָן, Modern Onan Tiberian ʾװnān ; Strong) was the second son of Judah.[1] Certain interpretations of the narrative concerning him have led to the term onanism, which means masturbation or coitus interruptus.
According to the text, after God had killed Onan's older brother Er, Judah asked Onan to have sexual intercourse with Tamar and impregnate her, the widow of Er, so that the child or children could be declared to be Er's heir(s).[2] Onan had sex with Tamar, but performed coitus interruptus each time, spilling his "seed" (semen) on the ground, so that there would not be any offspring which he could not claim as his own.[3] The passage states that this displeased God, who killed Onan as his punishment.[4]
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darthstar Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:51:55pm |
re: #166 brookly red
don't know that name... guessing I don't want to.
Onan the Contrarian...never heard of him? He was known for whipping out his sword and beating himself to death.
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brookly red Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:52:13pm |
re: #167 Gus 802
Day 512 of Glenn Beck still being an idiot.
so that would be considered a pre-existing condition?
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:52:14pm |
re: #164 Cato the Elder
That, of course, includes the entire Catholic Church, which has a doctrine on social justice that's included in the catechism.
Congrats, Beck. You just pissed off the Pope.
Precisely. I guess all Catholics aren't true Christians, for Beck.
That should go over well-- with the segments of wingnuttery that believe the Church is the Whore of Babylon, or that the Pope is the antichrist. (they won't mind him sharing that title with Obama, in any case).
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:52:20pm |
Where in the Gospels, pray, does Jesus not talk about social justice?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:52:41pm |
re: #153 iceweasel
So, do I have to change my bracelet to WWJND?*
*What Would Jesus Not Do? I bet I could sell them on Conservapedia.
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Gus Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:53:10pm |
re: #170 brookly red
so that would be considered a pre-existing condition?
Hmm, maybe. Although I hope they don't turn him away because he needs the mental health insurance coverage badly. /
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brookly red Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:53:27pm |
re: #169 darthstar
Onan the Contrarian...never heard of him? He was known for whipping out his sword and beating himself to death.
no, I don't think he ever ran in my district...
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:53:38pm |
You know, I'm thinking that those of us with elderly parents who watch Fox should check to see what their seed interest is these days. Or better, check their bank accounts. Geeze.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:53:53pm |
re: #172 Cato the Elder
Where in the Gospels, pray, does Jesus not talk about social justice?
Well, there was those three days there, but otherwise, that hippy never shut up on the subject.
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freetoken Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:54:27pm |
Those evil, deceiving scientists and all their gobbledegook:
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:55:29pm |
re: #161 Gus 802
Hard to believe they're playing end-of-times commercials like this on television.
Have you never watched CBN? TBN? Whoa boy, the stuff they sell to the fearful...
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jamesfirecat Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:55:39pm |
re: #164 Cato the Elder
That, of course, includes the entire Catholic Church, which has a doctrine on social justice that's included in the catechism.
Congrats, Beck. You just pissed off the Pope.
Unholy Heathens Pope Man, Its the Moron Mormon and he's giving all of Christianity a bad name!
I know Altar Boy we need to head to the Pop Mobile and FAST!
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:56:13pm |
re: #177 Guanxi88
Well, there was those three days there, but otherwise, that hippy never shut up on the subject.
How different is the Jesus in the Book of Mormon from the Jesus of the Gospels? And do Mormons read the traditional Gospels, or are they replaced entirely by the BoM?
I am woefully ignorant on the subject.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:56:51pm |
re: #179 Slumbering Behemoth
Have you never watched CBN? TBN? Whoa boy, the stuff they sell to the fearful...
And tacky. Gah! have you ever seen such sets? All the furniture they have could have been swiped one of of Saddam's appallingly decorated palaces.
And don't even start me on the hair on these people.
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Gus Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:57:05pm |
re: #172 Cato the Elder
Where in the Gospels, pray, does Jesus not talk about social justice?
Here you go:
Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church
Vatican web site.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:57:15pm |
re: #168 Guanxi88
God hates the pull-out method.
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:57:36pm |
re: #172 Cato the Elder
Where in the Gospels, pray, does Jesus not talk about social justice?
That's exactly the point Fred Clark makes over at slacktivist-- the link I gave under the audio. It's worth a read:
This is an astonishing claim to anyone who's ever had a Bible and their eyes open at the same time. Justice is an inescapable, relentless, pervasive, nearly omnipresent theme of that entire volume. It is impossible to read the law and the prophets, the Gospels and epistles, the histories, wisdom literature and apocalypse without being confronted incessantly with the theme of justice, justice, justice, justice, justice, justice, justice.
That accounts for justice, in the Christian teaching of every Christian church, being regarded as a cardinal virtue and an attribute of God.
I'm guessing that Beck would argue that he's not opposing justice per se, only "social justice" -- which he sees as a "code word" for Nazicommunism or something. But this is nonsense. Not just the slander that every Christian from the original disciples on down is a Nazicommunist, but the very idea that it's possible to speak of "justice" as distinct from "social justice."
Justice is, by definition, social. Justice, by definition, is something that exists only between and among individuals and groups of individuals and groups of groups. One might argue that "social justice" is redundant, but one cannot oppose "social justice" without opposing justice itself.
(I can't even imagine what "individual justice" might mean. Perhaps some kind of self-help therapeutic babble -- "You need to be fair to you ..." Or maybe the title of a violent action movie starring Vin Diesel as a judge whose daughter has been kidnapped by drug dealers.)
That trailblazers of wingnuttery like Glenn Beck would explicitly condemn justice itself shouldn't be surprising. You'll recall that just a few months ago, Beck and his allies (including most of the Republican caucus in Congress) were loudly railing against a related prerequisite virtue, empathy.
Yes, that's right, they said empathy was bad. Once they decided that, then it was only a matter of time before they were bound to come out against justice as well, because empathy is the foundation of justice. (See if you can arrive at some conception of justice that does not rely upon empathy. No philosopher, ethicist or religious genius ever yet has managed to do so.)
Let me be clear: When Glenn Beck asserts that justice is incompatible with the Gospel and with the teachings of Christ, he is not following the Pauline/Augustinian argument that perfect love transcends justice ("Justice that is only justice is less than justice," in Reinhold Niebuhr's phrase). He is, rather, saying that justice itself is a bad thing.
Glenn Beck is anti-justice. And he's telling his radio audience that Jesus Christ was anti-justice. It's hard to see how that doesn't make Glenn Beck anti-Christ. (The word there is an adjective, but the noun would also seem to fit.)
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Girth Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:57:39pm |
re: #153 iceweasel
Beck continues yesterday's crusade against 'social justice', urging people to leave churches that talk about it:
Beck: Social justice "is a perversion of the Gospel," "not what Jesus would say"
Audio at link.
Also:
What's with this pansy-ass lovey-dovey Savior shit?
My Christ kicks ass and takes names from the back of a raptor!
Image: JesusRidingDinosaur.jpg
///
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Gus Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:57:46pm |
re: #179 Slumbering Behemoth
Have you never watched CBN? TBN? Whoa boy, the stuff they sell to the fearful...
Haven't watched TV in years.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:58:26pm |
re: #184 Slumbering Behemoth
God hates the pull-out method.
Violates the first commandment ever given to our common ancestors: Be fruitful and multiply, or so I've been told. I know the sages didn't approve of the method, preferring an "absorbent" as they called to prevent conception.
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brookly red Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:58:49pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:59:09pm |
re: #181 Cato the Elder
How different is the Jesus in the Book of Mormon from the Jesus of the Gospels? And do Mormons read the traditional Gospels, or are they replaced entirely by the BoM?
I am woefully ignorant on the subject.
a. Not different.
B. We read the Old and New Testament, and the Book of Mormon as well.
Please remember that Glenn Beck is giving you his interpretation, and he is a convert. That said, the LDS welfare (there is such a thing) requires that people do some sort of work (adjusted to physical abilities, etc.) to receive help.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:59:10pm |
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Digital Display Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:59:51pm |
So all you West Coasters..If you want to look like a genius tonight in front of your significant other.. Turn on Jeopardy tonight for the final Question..
It's a trick question..What country has the most number of Nuclear Reactors?
Everyone would guess France
It's the USA
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goddamnedfrank Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:00:10pm |
re: #172 Cato the Elder
Where in the Gospels, pray, does Jesus not talk about social justice?
I'm pretty sure he takes a break somewhere along the line to damn a fig tree into oblivion.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:00:23pm |
re: #187 Gus 802
Haven't watched TV in years.
Don't worry - my wife's picked up the slack for you. I hope i don't die during the season-premiere of 24, cause if I do, the cats will eat me before she notices.
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What, me worry? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:01:01pm |
re: #162 freetoken
Walmart selling black Barbies for less than white ones?
When is a sale a sign of racism?
Unfortunately, the Black Barbies are probably not selling as well as the White Barbies so they do have to move them (what they said in the article). I imagine in a large Metropolitan city, you wouldn't see that.
Not racism, capitalism, but I think a sad commentary nevertheless.
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jamesfirecat Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:01:24pm |
re: #190 EmmmieG
a. Not different.
B. We read the Old and New Testament, and the Book of Mormon as well.
Please remember that Glenn Beck is giving you his interpretation, and he is a convert. That said, the LDS welfare (there is such a thing) requires that people do some sort of work (adjusted to physical abilities, etc.) to receive help.
/"Adjusted to physical abilities..." You know to me that sounds a lot like "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs..." BECKS A COMMUNIST!
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SixDegrees Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:03:56pm |
re: #196 marjoriemoon
Unfortunately, the Black Barbies are probably not selling as well as the White Barbies so they do have to move them (what they said in the article). I imagine in a large Metropolitan city, you wouldn't see that.
Not racism, capitalism, but I think a sad commentary nevertheless.
On consumers, or production managers?
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:04:18pm |
re: #191 Guanxi88
You're not missing much.
Yeah, but you mentioned a doc on conspiracy theories this morning that sounded good! Who aired it? I want to find it online.
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:05:01pm |
re: #186 Girth
What's with this pansy-ass lovey-dovey Savior shit?
My Christ kicks ass and takes names from the back of a raptor!
[Link: i256.photobucket.com...]
///
That IS awesome. :)
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Girth Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:05:16pm |
re: #197 jamesfirecat
/"Adjusted to physical abilities..." You know to me that sounds a lot like "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs..." BECKS A COMMUNIST!
Socialist at the very least...
Remember he educated himself with library books paid for by community funds.
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albusteve Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:05:52pm |
re: #198 SixDegrees
On consumers, or production managers?
is it like a Barbie minstral?...or a separate, renamed doll?
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Guanxi88 Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:07:41pm |
re: #199 iceweasel
Yeah, but you mentioned a doc on conspiracy theories this morning that sounded good! Who aired it? I want to find it online.
That was on the Independent Film Channel. The producers posted the whole thing - in 9 parts - on Youtube:
for part 1:
here's their youtube channel:
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:07:45pm |
re: #201 Girth
Socialist at the very least...
Remember he educated himself with library books paid for by community funds.
Best argument EVAR for more funding for libraries.
Beck's bookmobile appears to have been shorted.
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brookly red Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:08:08pm |
re: #201 Girth
Socialist at the very least...
Remember he educated himself with library books paid for by community funds.
wow... that can go in like 12 different snarky directions. I think I just hit the comment lottery :)
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What, me worry? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:08:32pm |
re: #198 SixDegrees
On consumers, or production managers?
Consumers. It could mean they don't have a large enough Black population, or at least of those who shop there. And I'm a diversity kinda gal.
My ex's family was from Southern Alabama. Nice town, but very segregated. Not "official" of course (well I don't think so), but the Blacks stayed on their side of town and the Whites stayed on theirs. I don't care for it.
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:08:53pm |
re: #203 Guanxi88
Thanks so much-- bookmarked and will watch later tonight. I loved IFC when I still had cable.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:09:16pm |
re: #9 zora
we should only trade in gold and seeds.
//
well...and marijuana, which could form the basis of a solid currency...oops.
(too much?)
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Guanxi88 Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:09:28pm |
re: #207 iceweasel
Thanks so much-- bookmarked and will watch later tonight. I loved IFC when I still had cable.
I got me three kids - cable's the only way we can all get our Spongebob fix. Oh, and Penguins of Madagascar.
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What, me worry? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:09:51pm |
re: #202 albusteve
is it like a Barbie minstral?...or a separate, renamed doll?
There's a link there showing it. The dolls are pretty identical other than color and hair.
[Link: caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com...]
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:10:02pm |
Today is a nice, sunny day, even if it is a bit chilly. I knew it would be, I check the weather reports, and I have planned ahead by marinating a nice Tri-Tip overnight. Time to start the coals and get busy.
Later Lizards.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:11:09pm |
re: #206 marjoriemoon
Consumers. It could mean they don't have a large enough Black population, or at least of those who shop there. And I'm a diversity kinda gal.
My ex's family was from Southern Alabama. Nice town, but very segregated. Not "official" of course (well I don't think so), but the Blacks stayed on their side of town and the Whites stayed on theirs. I don't care for it.
eh. it was somebody's job to estimate the demand properly. i blame the inventory management, having always had to fend off the blame myself when too much or too little product was on the shelf in a prior job...
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What, me worry? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:11:54pm |
re: #213 Aceofwhat?
eh. it was somebody's job to estimate the demand properly. i blame the inventory management, having always had to fend off the blame myself when too much or too little product was on the shelf in a prior job...
Could be that for sure.
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albusteve Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:12:23pm |
re: #210 marjoriemoon
There's a link there showing it. The dolls are pretty identical other than color and hair.
[Link: caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com...]
they appear to be sepaarte dolls, feature wise....I couldn't believe they would simply take the original and alter the color
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brookly red Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:13:18pm |
re: #215 albusteve
they appear to be sepaarte dolls, feature wise...I couldn't believe they would simply take the original and alter the color
no the did make proportional distinctions...
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:13:22pm |
I think it's time for ICEWEASEL and the CATOBOT to stop horsing around here and work on ripping Beck a rhetorical new one.
For great social justice!
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goddamnedfrank Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:13:53pm |
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KingKenrod Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:14:09pm |
re: #172 Cato the Elder
Where in the Gospels, pray, does Jesus not talk about social justice?
Social justices as a choice that each individual makes, not as something enforced by secular authorities. The social justice movement is about enforcing equality of outcome through law.
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albusteve Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:15:04pm |
re: #218 Cato the Elder
I think it's time for ICEWEASEL and the CATOBOT to stop horsing around here and work on ripping Beck a rhetorical new one.
For great social justice!
there is no new one...it's all been ripped long ago
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:15:18pm |
re: #218 Cato the Elder
I think it's time for ICEWEASEL and the CATOBOT to stop horsing around here and work on ripping Beck a rhetorical new one.
For great social justice!
My neighbours appear to have gotten a puppy, or left someone's puppy alone in their apartment. It's been crying for the last hour. :(
These are new neighbours and I don't have their cell number. I may have to leave them a strongly worded note if this continues....
(I couldn't care less about noise, just the puppy)
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:15:29pm |
re: #220 KingKenrod
Social justices as a choice that each individual makes, not as something enforced by secular authorities. The social justice movement is about enforcing equality of outcome through law.
Bullshit. At least as it pertains to the Church. Shove that wingnuttery where the sun don't shine in your back door.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:15:45pm |
Re-post this morning... because it's just (IMO) disgusting. Wanted to share.
I'm kind like that.
I am someone who shares.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:16:21pm |
re: #222 iceweasel
My neighbours appear to have gotten a puppy, or left someone's puppy alone in their apartment. It's been crying for the last hour. :(
These are new neighbours and I don't have their cell number. I may have to leave them a strongly worded note if this continues...
(I couldn't care less about noise, just the puppy)
If they're gone for more than a day, you may have to call animal services.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:16:24pm |
Twitter can be kind of creepy in a way; if you search for your name, it's a bit like being a fly on the wall, listening to people who hate you as they chatter back and forth.
This was just tweeted by "JammieWearingFool," a backstabbing asshole who registered a sock puppet account here in order to post nasty comments full of insults -- after I had trusted him to be an LGF monitor, and let him get away with pimping his blog non-stop at LGF for years.
If a GOP aide was caught working for al Qaeda, Charles Johnson's ponytail would stand up straight. Funny how he's silent today...
Then it was promptly retweeted by Melissa Clouthier, because it's just so much fun to bash me, I guess.
What are they talking about? This story, about an American in Yemen who is apparently hooked up with Al Qaeda: Buena man is accused of al Qaeda-related terrorist attack in Yemen %P% - NJ.com.
Was he actually a "Democratic aide?" This is where the story gets really, really stupid.
Campaign finance records show Mobley received $75 as an election day worker for Gov. Jon Corzine's campaign in 2005.
So this guy worked ONE DAY for Corzine's campaign, probably distributing flyers or something, and made $75 whole dollars, and now all of a sudden he's being described by these crackheads as being connected to the Democratic Party.
The stupidity gives me a headache sometimes.
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jamesfirecat Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:16:29pm |
re: #220 KingKenrod
Social justices as a choice that each individual makes, not as something enforced by secular authorities. The social justice movement is about enforcing equality of outcome through law.
Except that Beck is talking about social justice being preached as part of a church doctrine, do you have a problem with that?
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Gus Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:17:30pm |
re: #220 KingKenrod
Social justices as a choice that each individual makes, not as something enforced by secular authorities. The social justice movement is about enforcing equality of outcome through law.
Right, because we all know that the citizenry will just do the right thing all the time without need for legal intervention. Sort of like the way that worked with civil rights and gender equality. They would have closed down the child labor factories on their own.
Unlikely.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:19:13pm |
re: #224 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Re-post this morning... because it's just (IMO) disgusting. Wanted to share.
I'm kind like that.
I am someone who shares.
I really fail to see anything wrong, much less disgusting, in that story.
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brookly red Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:19:16pm |
re: #228 Gus 802
Right, because we all know that the citizenry will just do the right thing all the time without need for legal intervention. Sort of like the way that worked with civil rights and gender equality. They would have closed down the child labor factories on their own.
Unlikely.
and it seems that "human trafficking" is at an all time high...
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:20:16pm |
re: #225 Cato the Elder
If they're gone for more than a day, you may have to call animal services.
Damn straight I would.
It's also a violation of the lease here to have a dog in the first place.
I wouldn't ever rat someone out for that, but I'll call animal services if they don't come home in the nest 24 hours.
I don't know these folks yet but they've been decent neighbours so far. I'm not even sure it's their dog and not a houseguest's. That might explain why the dog is crying too-- being alone in a new place while they're all out to dinner or something.
I'll be monitoring the situation and will report back.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:20:24pm |
re: #222 iceweasel
My neighbours appear to have gotten a puppy, or left someone's puppy alone in their apartment. It's been crying for the last hour. :(
These are new neighbours and I don't have their cell number. I may have to leave them a strongly worded note if this continues...
(I couldn't care less about noise, just the puppy)
suggestion: if you can find some way to enter, give teh puppeh lots of food and water and let it otherwise run free...
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albusteve Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:20:24pm |
re: #225 Cato the Elder
If they're gone for more than a day, you may have to call animal services.
I'd make a great puppy sitter, reasonably priced too....more than a day is definitely abusive, but leaving them alone is not
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Gus Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:20:50pm |
re: #230 brookly red
and it seems that "human trafficking" is at an all time high...
Outside the United States.
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Aye Pod Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:21:27pm |
re: #208 Aceofwhat?
well...and marijuana, which could form the basis of a solid currency...oops.
(too much?)
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brookly red Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:21:50pm |
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albusteve Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:22:10pm |
re: #231 iceweasel
Damn straight I would.
It's also a violation of the lease here to have a dog in the first place.
I wouldn't ever rat someone out for that, but I'll call animal services if they don't come home in the nest 24 hours.I don't know these folks yet but they've been decent neighbours so far. I'm not even sure it's their dog and not a houseguest's. That might explain why the dog is crying too-- being alone in a new place while they're all out to dinner or something.
I'll be monitoring the situation and will report back.
if you need anybody to kick the door in, I'm available
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MandyManners Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:22:55pm |
re: #220 KingKenrod
Social justices as a choice that each individual makes, not as something enforced by secular authorities. The social justice movement is about enforcing equality of outcome through law.
Yes. Christ was not about the kingdom of earth but about the kingdom of Heaven.
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doubter4444 Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:23:11pm |
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wrenchwench Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:23:35pm |
re: #204 iceweasel
Best argument EVAR for more funding for libraries.
Beck's bookmobile appears to have been shorted.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:23:45pm |
re: #236 Jimmah
[Video]
ha! as a Yank, i don't get to hear 'hundredweight' often as a lyric...loving it...
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:24:08pm |
re: #232 Aceofwhat?
suggestion: if you can find some way to enter, give teh puppeh lots of food and water and let it otherwise run free...
I can't. These folks moved in at the beginning of the month. I had the old neighbours key and his phone numbers but gave the key back to him when he left. He wouldn't still have the keys now either.
If I still had the old key I think I would let myself in, but it's only been going on for an hour and a half or so. Like I said, I think they're just out to dinner. Hope so.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:24:11pm |
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Bagua Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:24:13pm |
re: #126 SanFranciscoZionist
OT--I have a swollen and sore bit on the roof of my mouth. It's on one side, behind the back teeth. I can feel a corresponding bump on the other side of the mouth, but not swollen or painful.
When I swallow, feels like broken glass in ear. Is this a lymph node, or a salivary gland, or what, and is there anything I can do to bring it down?
Sounds like inflammation/infection of the adenoids or tonsils affecting the eustachian tubes (thus the ear pain) and/or middle ear inflammation/infection. Tylenol may give you some relief, but you should have it looked at.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:24:23pm |
re: #238 albusteve
if you need anybody to kick the door in, I'm available
I have called the cops on people who leave their dogs locked in hot cars on summer days. It's now against the law in Maryland.
Once the lady who owned the car came back before the cops arrived. With three kids in tow. She proceeded to cuss me out in front of her kids in language that would make Mandy blush.
Nice way to teach your kids about respect for animals.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:24:48pm |
re: #239 MandyManners
Yes. Christ was not about the kingdom of earth but about the kingdom of Heaven.
Bullshit again.
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albusteve Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:24:51pm |
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:25:12pm |
re: #243 iceweasel
I can't. These folks moved in at the beginning of the month. I had the old neighbours key and his phone numbers but gave the key back to him when he left. He wouldn't still have the keys now either.
If I still had the old key I think I would let myself in, but it's only been going on for an hour and a half or so. Like I said, I think they're just out to dinner. Hope so.
i just think that all of the little puppy "gifts" on the floors around the joint would be a fitting retribution. oh well.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:26:09pm |
re: #226 Charles
JWF also has a thread on his blog refuting the Rush "Massa" quote from yesterday. I didn't take him seriously enough to look into it.
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albusteve Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:26:40pm |
re: #246 Cato the Elder
I have called the cops on people who leave their dogs locked in hot cars on summer days. It's now against the law in Maryland.
Once the lady who owned the car came back before the cops arrived. With three kids in tow. She proceeded to cuss me out in front of her kids in language that would make Mandy blush.
Nice way to teach your kids about respect for animals.
my sister has busted a bunch of people for abusing animals, and not just near her home...same thing....she'd pry open a car door if she could, she's that relentless
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brookly red Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:27:35pm |
re: #249 Aceofwhat?
i just think that all of the little puppy "gifts" on the floors around the joint would be a fitting retribution. oh well.
no biggie... thats what the NYT is for :)
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albusteve Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:27:45pm |
re: #249 Aceofwhat?
i just think that all of the little puppy "gifts" on the floors around the joint would be a fitting retribution. oh well.
I consider that abusive, to put a dog in that situation
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Aye Pod Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:28:10pm |
re: #242 Aceofwhat?
ha! as a Yank, i don't get to hear 'hundredweight' often as a lyric...loving it...
I like weed songs that deal in large quantities...lol
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:28:15pm |
re: #251 albusteve
my sister has busted a bunch of people for abusing animals, and not just near her home...same thing...she'd pry open a car door if she could, she's that relentless
Does she date older Romans?
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:28:22pm |
re: #222 iceweasel
My neighbours appear to have gotten a puppy, or left someone's puppy alone in their apartment. It's been crying for the last hour. :(
These are new neighbours and I don't have their cell number. I may have to leave them a strongly worded note if this continues...
(I couldn't care less about noise, just the puppy)
My neighbors with the pit bulls have split. Remember I posted there was a van in front of their house? Well, it was not their homeys moving in, they are good and gone. I think the neighbor on the other side, that their dogs attacked, served them and got a lien on their property.
The bad news is that their house will probably go into foreclosure and become an eyesore in the neighborhood, just like it was before the doggie "lovers" moved in.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:28:28pm |
Wow. I just read about Senator Reid's wife and daughter.
Prayers for their speedy recovery.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:28:45pm |
re: #250 Killgore Trout
JWF also has a thread on his blog refuting the Rush "Massa" quote from yesterday. I didn't take him seriously enough to look into it.
He doesn't actually "refute" anything. He just whines that the media is getting info from Media Matters. Doesn't dispute the racist comment. It's pathetic.
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prairiefire Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:29:12pm |
re: #245 Bagua
I hope she's at After Hours/Urgent care at this moment. I had to drive myself from the Holiday Inn to the emergency room in Emporia KS at 2:00AM because I let an ear infection go too long and burst my eardrum. Such pain! The receptionist and nurse both thought I was a crack head looking for opiates!
I showed them, with my bleeding ear and all.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:29:20pm |
re: #239 MandyManners
Yes. Christ was not about the kingdom of earth but about the kingdom of Heaven.
Yes he was about the kingdom of earth. He spent word after word explaining to his followers how to exist among the world. And, if you lend any weight to the other books in the Greek scriptures, you will understand that there was a whole "organization" of home churches across the area, and Paul wrote numerous letters to these congregations and counseled them on their internal political structure and how to exist among the world.
To ignore the social aspects of the Greek scriptures is to ignore a large part of the message of the New Testament.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:29:34pm |
re: #258 Charles
He doesn't actually "refute" anything. He just whines that the media is getting info from Media Matters. Doesn't dispute the racist comment. It's pathetic.
Ah, ok.
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Gus Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:29:42pm |
re: #239 MandyManners
Yes. Christ was not about the kingdom of earth but about the kingdom of Heaven.
First time I ever heard that.
Looking through the Vatican I see this:
Excerpt from CARITAS IN VERITATE:
First of all, justice. Ubi societas, ibi ius: every society draws up its own system of justice. Charity goes beyond justice, because to love is to give, to offer what is “mine” to the other; but it never lacks justice, which prompts us to give the other what is “his”, what is due to him by reason of his being or his acting. I cannot “give” what is mine to the other, without first giving him what pertains to him in justice. If we love others with charity, then first of all we are just towards them. Not only is justice not extraneous to charity, not only is it not an alternative or parallel path to charity: justice is inseparable from charity[1], and intrinsic to it. Justice is the primary way of charity or, in Paul VI's words, “the minimum measure” of it[2], an integral part of the love “in deed and in truth” (1 Jn 3:18), to which Saint John exhorts us. On the one hand, charity demands justice: recognition and respect for the legitimate rights of individuals and peoples. It strives to build the earthly city according to law and justice. On the other hand, charity transcends justice and completes it in the logic of giving and forgiving[3]. The earthly city is promoted not merely by relationships of rights and duties, but to an even greater and more fundamental extent by relationships of gratuitousness, mercy and communion. Charity always manifests God's love in human relationships as well, it gives theological and salvific value to all commitment for justice in the world.
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:29:43pm |
re: #246 Cato the Elder
Once the lady who owned the car came back before the cops arrived. With three kids in tow. She proceeded to cuss me out in front of her kids in language that would make Mandy blush.
I've been cussed out by both parties when a guy hit his girlfriend in front of my building. Certainly gave me a visceral understanding for why cops hate domestic violence calls-- the warring couple suddenly unites again against the intruder.
In that instance it was also the woman who was a lot more vicious to me. lol.
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Lidane Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:31:25pm |
re: #220 KingKenrod
LOL no. Try again, and this time actually read the New Testament.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:31:26pm |
re: #263 iceweasel
I've been cussed out by both parties when a guy hit his girlfriend in front of my building. Certainly gave me a visceral understanding for why cops hate domestic violence calls-- the warring couple suddenly unites again against the intruder.
In that instance it was also the woman who was a lot more vicious to me. lol.
weird...and not in a "ooh, i've never seen a piercing there" kind of way...
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:32:14pm |
re: #263 iceweasel
I've been cussed out by both parties when a guy hit his girlfriend in front of my building. Certainly gave me a visceral understanding for why cops hate domestic violence calls-- the warring couple suddenly unites again against the intruder.
In that instance it was also the woman who was a lot more vicious to me. lol.
That's really fucked up.
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Digital Display Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:32:29pm |
re: #231 iceweasel
Damn straight I would.
It's also a violation of the lease here to have a dog in the first place.
I wouldn't ever rat someone out for that, but I'll call animal services if they don't come home in the nest 24 hours.I don't know these folks yet but they've been decent neighbours so far. I'm not even sure it's their dog and not a houseguest's. That might explain why the dog is crying too-- being alone in a new place while they're all out to dinner or something.
I'll be monitoring the situation and will report back.
This is why I love you Ice and Jimmah..
Let the little puppy cry tonight.. He misses someone during dinner..But Mommy or Daddy will rescue him tonight and take him home...
Poor thing is probably crying about not getting leftovers from a 42nd street Deli... Why am I all alone..Where did my Master go? Where the heck is my leftovers?
Humans totally suck..Till they get home..
*wink*
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:33:39pm |
re: #265 Aceofwhat?
weird...and not in a "ooh, i've never seen a piercing there" kind of way...
Weird, but not uncommon, I guess. It was a whole "stand by your man" thing obviously.
The "man" in question skedaddled when I said I'd called the cops. I reckon he had some prior warrants or something.
Tammy Wynette stuck around for the denouement.
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Girth Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:33:40pm |
re: #258 Charles
He doesn't actually "refute" anything. He just whines that the media is getting info from Media Matters. Doesn't dispute the racist comment. It's pathetic.
Did Rush say it?
Well, this is from Media Matters...
Yeah, but did he say it?
Well, I don't trust Media Matters...
I understand that, but is this report accurate? Did he say what they say he said?
That's not the point...
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:33:48pm |
re: #239 MandyManners
Yes. Christ was not about the kingdom of earth but about the kingdom of Heaven.
Where in this passage does he mention putting off social justice until the Kingdom comes?
Luke 6:27-36
Love your enemies; do good to those who hate you; bless those who curse you; pray for those who treat you spitefully. When a man hits you on the cheek, offer him the other cheek too; when a man takes your coat, let him have your shirt as well. Give to everyone who asks you; when a man takes what is yours, do not demand it back. Treat others as you would like them to treat you. If you love only those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. Again, if you do good only to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do as much. And if you lend only where you expect to be repaid, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to each other to be repaid in full. But you must love your enemies and do good; and lend without expecting any return; and you will have a rich reward: you will be sons of the Most High, because he himself is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. Be compassionate as your Father is compassionate.
Your understanding of Jesus is rather thin.
Now go pound sand up your avatar.
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goddamnedfrank Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:34:35pm |
re: #239 MandyManners
Yes. Christ was not about the kingdom of earth but about the kingdom of Heaven.
Yet for some reason He in His wisdom chose to tell us in no uncertain terms how one kingdom relates to the other:
“It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.”
(Luke 18:25)
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albusteve Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:34:47pm |
re: #255 Cato the Elder
Does she date older Romans?
she's a complete crackpot...I'm the only one in the family that can make any sense of her at all....but she has a huge, generous heart...you'd do better elsewhere
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KingKenrod Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:34:55pm |
re: #227 jamesfirecat
Except that Beck is talking about social justice being preached as part of a church doctrine, do you have a problem with that?
I see social justice as a secular political movement, not a part of a religious movement. There is some overlap of principles with Christianity, certainly. Equality of outcome through rule of law is a secular idea, I don't see basis for that in the bible...who is the authority here? Christ or the law?
I think Beck is over-reacting, people should stay in whatever church that preaches what they want to hear or enlightens them.
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brookly red Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:35:15pm |
re: #270 Cato the Elder
Your understanding of Jesus is rather thin.
Now go pound sand up your avatar.
/gotta love a good Jesus fight...
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Bagua Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:35:57pm |
re: #259 prairiefire
I hope she's at After Hours/Urgent care at this moment. I had to drive myself from the Holiday Inn to the emergency room in Emporia KS at 2:00AM because I let an ear infection go too long and burst my eardrum. Such pain! The receptionist and nurse both thought I was a crack head looking for opiates!
I showed them, with my bleeding ear and all.
Yes, if the ear is infected then delay will increase the chance of hearing loss. If the diagnosis requires antibiotics, then the sooner they are begun the better.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:37:04pm |
re: #273 KingKenrod
I see social justice as a secular political movement, not a part of a religious movement. There is some overlap of principles with Christianity, certainly. Equality of outcome through rule of law is a secular idea, I don't see basis for that in the bible...who is the authority here? Christ or the law?
I think Beck is over-reacting, people should stay in whatever church that preaches what they want to hear or enlightens them.
But Beck is not talking about a secular political movement. He is talking about a theological concept. So, I don't even know why your are addressing this as a political issue, it's not.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:37:13pm |
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Aye Pod Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:37:53pm |
re: #263 iceweasel
I've been cussed out by both parties when a guy hit his girlfriend in front of my building. Certainly gave me a visceral understanding for why cops hate domestic violence calls-- the warring couple suddenly unites again against the intruder.
In that instance it was also the woman who was a lot more vicious to me. lol.
I've seen this happen. Once in town I saw an older man try to intervene to protect a girl from an attack by the guy who was accompaning her. They both turned on the poor guy and kicked him to the ground - the girl was screaming at him. Fortunately it was Saturday night and in the centre of town, and the police were on hand to break it up right away, otherwise the result could have been much worse.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:37:55pm |
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:38:34pm |
A little snippet from Section One, Chapter Two, Article 3 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church.-- the entire section is titled Social Justice, btw.
There exist also sinful inequalities that affect millions of men and women. These are in open contradiction of the Gospel:
Their equal dignity as persons demands that we strive for fairer and more humane conditions. Excessive economic and social disparity between individuals and peoples of the one human race is a source of scandal and militates against social justice, equity, human dignity, as well as social and international peace.44
Shock.
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Gus Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:38:44pm |
I am reminded of the statement by Barry Goldwater who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 in which he said, "You can't legislate morality" in opposition. This was the common rallying cry for the bigots across the land. There major opposition was to Title II of that act which reads:
Outlawed discrimination in hotels, motels, restaurants, theaters, and all other public accommodations engaged in interstate commerce; exempted private clubs without defining the term "private."
In other words Goldwater, Gore, Byrd, Thurmond, et al thought it was an individuals right to remain a bigot.
The Civil Rights act was a secular act of social justice. Thanks goodness for small graces.
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brookly red Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:38:54pm |
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:39:43pm |
re: #278 Jimmah
I've seen this happen. Once in town I saw an older man try to intervene to protect a girl from an attack by the guy who was accompaning her. They both turned on the poor guy and kicked him to the ground - the girl was screaming at him. Fortunately it was Saturday night and in the centre of town, and the police were on hand to break it up right away, otherwise the result could have been much worse.
ugh. i stand corrected. it's more sad than weird.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:40:01pm |
re: #279 Aceofwhat?
yeah...i'm ducking this one...
Ya better...
So when a half-breed breaks the rules, I deport their sorry ass straight back to hell. I don't get them all, but I've been hoping to get enough to ensure my... retirement.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:40:11pm |
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brookly red Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:41:21pm |
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KingKenrod Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:41:29pm |
re: #228 Gus 802
Right, because we all know that the citizenry will just do the right thing all the time without need for legal intervention. Sort of like the way that worked with civil rights and gender equality. They would have closed down the child labor factories on their own.
Unlikely.
Exactly my point. People will choose to do bad things unless the threat of sanction forces them to behave. In Christianity, this is the natural human condition, and Christ is the only salvation from this condition. This idea directly contradicts the notion that an equal world can be achieved through secular authority.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:41:55pm |
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:42:06pm |
re: #260 Walter L. Newton
Yes he was about the kingdom of earth. He spent word after word explaining to his followers how to exist among the world. And, if you lend any weight to the other books in the Greek scriptures, you will understand that there was a whole "organization" of home churches across the area, and Paul wrote numerous letters to these congregations and counseled them on their internal political structure and how to exist among the world.
To ignore the social aspects of the Greek scriptures is to ignore a large part of the message of the New Testament.
Why does the atheist have to keep explaining this stuff to certain people. The pew sitters are suppose to already know this.
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Aye Pod Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:42:28pm |
re: #270 Cato the Elder
Your understanding of Jesus is rather thin.
Now go pound sand up your avatar.
Being nice to each other is for when we get to heaven for going to church enough times. Commie Progs got hold of this beautiful message and perverted it so that people would think Jesus wanted us to actually do good things and be nice and fair to each other here on earth. Disgusting./
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:42:39pm |
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:42:42pm |
re: #287 Aceofwhat?
constantine?
Yes... I must be the only person (well, both of us) that actually enjoyed that movie... well... most of it.
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:42:53pm |
re: #281 Gus 802
I am reminded of the statement by Barry Goldwater who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 in which he said, "You can't legislate morality" in opposition. This was the common rallying cry for the bigots across the land. There major opposition was to Title II of that act which reads:
In other words Goldwater, Gore, Byrd, Thurmond, et al thought it was an individuals right to remain a bigot.
The Civil Rights act was a secular act of social justice. Thanks goodness for small graces.
Yep.
By the way, that specific bit I just quoted from the Catechism is from 1938.
Maybe Beck can haul out the blackboard and connect it to This Land is Your Land in some way.
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albusteve Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:43:49pm |
here we go again...another offended teen
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:44:03pm |
re: #295 iceweasel
Yep.
By the way, that specific bit I just quoted from the Catechism is from 1938.
Maybe Beck can haul out the blackboard and connect it to This Land is Your Land in some way.
Another socialist marching song.
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albusteve Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:45:18pm |
re: #289 KingKenrod
Exactly my point. People will choose to do bad things unless the threat of sanction forces them to behave. In Christianity, this is the natural human condition, and Christ is the only salvation from this condition. This idea directly contradicts the notion that an equal world can be achieved through secular authority.
sounds like a lot of hoky poky to me
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Gus Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:45:47pm |
re: #289 KingKenrod
Exactly my point. People will choose to do bad things unless the threat of sanction forces them to behave. In Christianity, this is the natural human condition, and Christ is the only salvation from this condition. This idea directly contradicts the notion that an equal world can be achieved through secular authority.
The concept of social justice is a broad one. Not all social justice implies the quest for equality of outcome. People are garnered the rights through many social justice movement to retain the ability to attain equal outcome. Thus when a person of a certain race is granted the right to attend a particular school they are granted the equal right to attend that school but not to be guaranteed an equal outcome to their peers regardless of their scholastic performance.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:46:25pm |
re: #294 Walter L. Newton
It was a good movie.
(retires to faint after agreeing with Walter twice in one evening..............)
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KingKenrod Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:46:46pm |
re: #276 Walter L. Newton
But Beck is not talking about a secular political movement. He is talking about a theological concept. So, I don't even know why your are addressing this as a political issue, it's not.
He's saying it's a sekrit commie backdoor.
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Gus Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:46:57pm |
re: #296 albusteve
here we go again...another offended teen
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Is that like the offended school district that is making a big stink about the lesbian couple?
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Spare O'Lake Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:47:13pm |
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:47:35pm |
re: #294 Walter L. Newton
Yes... I must be the only person (well, both of us) that actually enjoyed that movie... well... most of it.
It falls into my 'worth watching on TV' category.
Although i am a HUGE Peter Stormare fan. That guy steals scenes like Madoff steals bucks...
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albusteve Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:47:41pm |
re: #302 Gus 802
Is that like the offended school district that is making a big stink about the lesbian couple?
not sure
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jamesfirecat Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:48:21pm |
re: #291 Walter L. Newton
Why does the atheist have to keep explaining this stuff to certain people. The pew sitters are suppose to already know this.
Sometimes you need a clearer picture of what you stand against then what you stand for.
I'll admit the one time I felt truly tempted to read the Bible was when I went atheist for about a week. Then I went back to Presbo-Agnostic and the desire departed...
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:48:45pm |
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Digital Display Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:48:48pm |
re: #278 Jimmah
I've seen this happen. Once in town I saw an older man try to intervene to protect a girl from an attack by the guy who was accompaning her. They both turned on the poor guy and kicked him to the ground - the girl was screaming at him. Fortunately it was Saturday night and in the centre of town, and the police were on hand to break it up right away, otherwise the result could have been much worse.
I pulled into a Shell Station off I-80 in Richmond California in the 90's..
I pumping gas and this couple in a Caddy was there also.. He started just beating the Shit out of her.. I ran 10 feet or so to confront him and he Pulled a sawed-off Shot gun from under the seat and pointed it my face...
It was that moment when I ran inside the office that I wondered why he didn't shoot me..I begged the girl behind the counter to call the police.. She would not do it...The Caddy drove away..I paid my bill..
Get back on the freeway...
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:49:27pm |
Which one of you Lizards recommended the WWII book "A War to Be Won" the other day? I bought it for the Kindle and am enjoying it immensely.
The quality of the book recommendations around here is truly phenomenal.
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Kragar Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:49:27pm |
Just got home and watching MST3k Season 4, episode 7 "Attack of the Killer Shrew" and think I'll follow it up with episode 2 "The Giant Gila Monster".
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:49:36pm |
re: #308 HoosierHoops
you... met... JACKSON BROWN!?!?!
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Charles Johnson Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:50:38pm |
re: #52 HoosierHoops
Charles..Excellent posts on that thread you made...
I have always said you are a man of Principle and will voice your beliefs and stand for what you you feel is right...
That is what I call courage..Kudo's
/Man that one post was almost like going into the Al Pacino speech in the Scent of a Woman
To some readers..That left a mark...With class
Thanks, Hoops. I usually don't post comments at other sites, but in this case I decided to start fighting back a little bit.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:50:53pm |
re: #310 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Just got home and watching MST3k Season 4, episode 7 "Attack of the Killer Shrew" and think I'll follow it up with episode 2 "The Giant Gila Monster".
ahhh...been too long since i watched those. classic stuff.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:51:25pm |
re: #303 Spare O'Lake
Very nice way to end a biblical quote.
Consider the context. Mandy micturates on the name of God in Arabic every time she posts. And then has the brass balls to lecture us about Jesus and social justice.
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KingKenrod Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:52:43pm |
re: #299 Gus 802
The concept of social justice is a broad one. Not all social justice implies the quest for equality of outcome. People are garnered the rights through many social justice movement to retain the ability to attain equal outcome. Thus when a person of a certain race is granted the right to attend a particular school they are granted the equal right to attend that school but not to be guaranteed an equal outcome to their peers regardless of their scholastic performance.
Totally agree. But I see social justice, as a modern political movement, as going a step further, saying if the outcome is unequal, then the system is broken and equality does not really exist.
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albusteve Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:53:12pm |
re: #311 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
you... met... JACKSON BROWN!?!?!
I did, altho I'm not a big fan of his, I let him shake my hand anyway...he's a big friend of Little Feat
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:54:11pm |
re: #316 albusteve
I did, altho I'm not a big fan of his, I let him shake my hand anyway...he's a big friend of Little Feat
And Lindley.
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Digital Display Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:54:55pm |
re: #311 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
you... met... JACKSON BROWN!?!?!
It's one of those things when you step into a fight and wish you did not...
Shotgun in face..Not good
Note to self: Call 911
/Hi Veggie!
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Kragar Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:56:33pm |
re: #313 Aceofwhat?
ahhh...been too long since i watched those. classic stuff.
Oh, we got a short "Junior Rodeo" to start.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:56:48pm |
re: #315 KingKenrod
Social justice can be tied to Equality of Opportunity, or Equality of Outcome.
Equality of Opportunity is about levelling playing fields, ending discrimination and ending "old school tie" closed shop economies.
Equality of Outcome - well, thats been hashed around forever.
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Digital Display Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:58:02pm |
re: #312 Charles
Thanks, Hoops. I usually don't post comments at other sites, but in this case I decided to start fighting back a little bit.
You are good people Charles...And have the best blog in the world..
So does this mean this Fall I can be SingaporeHoops? Please?
*wink*
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Gus Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:58:28pm |
re: #315 KingKenrod
Totally agree. But I see social justice, as a modern political movement, as going a step further, saying if the outcome is unequal, then the system is broken and equality does not really exist.
People will abuse any moral or ethical concept. Do some people abuse the concept of social justice? I'm sure they do. But it's a small percentage compared to the overall scheme of things. That is the overall good that comes from the concept of social justice (both secular and religious) outweighs the occasional and infrequent abuse. One cannot put all social justice movements in one box and that includes those motivated by political ideologies.
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brookly red Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:00:11pm |
a guy is sitting on a park bench when another guy sits down and wolfs down a candy bar... and then another & another and another... the first guy says do you always do that? the second guy says my grandfather is 103... the first guy says do you mean to tell me you Grandfather got to be that old by eating candy bars?
the second guy says no, he got to be that old by minding his own business.
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albusteve Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:00:11pm |
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freetoken Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:03:02pm |
Apparently Chuck Norris had a birthday yesterday... his 70th.
[Link: content.usatoday.com...]
WND claims that even time is afraid of Chuck Norris.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:03:17pm |
re: #324 albusteve
he's been around forever but I've never seen him play
Oh it's worth it! Small venues of course.
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goddamnedfrank Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:03:19pm |
re: #308 HoosierHoops
I pulled into a Shell Station off I-80 in Richmond California in the 90's..
I pumping gas and this couple in a Caddy was there also.. He started just beating the Shit out of her.. I ran 10 feet or so to confront him and he Pulled a sawed-off Shot gun from under the seat and pointed it my face...
It was that moment when I ran inside the office that I wondered why he didn't shoot me..I begged the girl behind the counter to call the police.. She would not do it...The Caddy drove away..I paid my bill..
Get back on the freeway...
One night when I was living in the Cascade district in Seattle a drunk couple from one of the bars got into it in the parking lot. Lots of screaming and bad noises. By the time I opened up the apartment window he was terrorizing her in the corner of my building four floors down, blood running down her face. Called 911, and made a report. Then I leaned out the window with my Marlin lever gun, cycled the action and told him it was now time to cut it the fuck out. He tried to leave but the cops got there quick. Nice guys, they didn't say boo about the rifle.
Due to some paperwork snafu I didn't hear anything more until six to nine months later when I got a call from the prosecutor asking if I was willing to testify. On hearing that I was the dude signed a plea bargain. Yay.
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Aye Pod Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:03:30pm |
re: #308 HoosierHoops
I pulled into a Shell Station off I-80 in Richmond California in the 90's..
I pumping gas and this couple in a Caddy was there also.. He started just beating the Shit out of her.. I ran 10 feet or so to confront him and he Pulled a sawed-off Shot gun from under the seat and pointed it my face...
It was that moment when I ran inside the office that I wondered why he didn't shoot me..I begged the girl behind the counter to call the police.. She would not do it...The Caddy drove away..I paid my bill..
Get back on the freeway...
Sounds like a close one. Glad you made it out of that one in one piece. It's a shame people are often too intimidated to talk to the police - something I've also come up against.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:03:36pm |
re: #314 Cato the Elder
Consider the context. Mandy micturates on the name of God in Arabic every time she posts. And then has the brass balls to lecture us about Jesus and social justice.
i gotta admit, i'm terribly conflicted about it. on one hand, i think that the Mossab Hasan Yousefs of the world probably get it, and the context of the graphic. on the other hand, it requires one to spend all their credibility on that lone item, leaving virtually nothing left over for discussions like this one.
i'm not sure that was coherent.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:03:49pm |
When people talk derisively about "equality of outcome", they are talking through their asshats.
Social justice is about taking care of the weak, the widows and orphans, the sick, the disabled, the downtrodden, the forgotten ones.
Just like it says in the Hebrew Bible and the Christian Gospels and - yes! - the Koran.
It is not about turning the weak into the strong - an impossibility - but about the strong using their strength for something more powerful and mighty than increasing their own little fiefdoms.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:04:16pm |
Richard Metzger emailed to tell me how amazed he is about the hordes of stalkers who showed up in his LGF interview threads.
And he also told me that they've had two pretty serious hacking attacks there in the past three days. Related? Who knows. Most of these stalkers are pathetic losers who couldn't hack their way out of a paper bag, but there might be one or two who have some rudimentary script kiddie skillz.
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zora Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:05:17pm |
[Link: www.christianpost.com...]
Glenn Beck's Advice on 'Social Justice' Churches Sparks Outrage
[Link: blog.sojo.net...]
A Pastor’s Response to Glenn Beck’s Call to Leave ‘Social Justice’ Churches
sensible people agree that beck should stfu about the bible and social justice.
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albusteve Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:05:19pm |
re: #326 Stanley Sea
Oh it's worth it! Small venues of course.
he doesn't tour much and you'd be very lucky to catch him live I think....he sort of makes 'appearances'
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Varek Raith Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:05:22pm |
re: #331 Charles
Richard Metzger emailed to tell me how amazed he is about the hordes of stalkers who showed up in his LGF interview threads.
And he also told me that they've had two pretty serious hacking attacks there in the past three days. Related? Who knows. Most of these stalkers are pathetic losers who couldn't hack their way out of a paper bag, but there might be one or two who have some rudimentary script kiddie skillz.
Sheesh. Sorry you have to deal with that kind of bull shit.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:06:18pm |
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:06:42pm |
re: #331 Charles
Richard Metzger emailed to tell me how amazed he is about the hordes of stalkers who showed up in his LGF interview threads.
And he also told me that they've had two pretty serious hacking attacks there in the past three days. Related? Who knows. Most of these stalkers are pathetic losers who couldn't hack their way out of a paper bag, but there might be one or two who have some rudimentary script kiddie skillz.
What is it about these "people" (and I use the term with extreme generosity) that they have no freaking life?
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Obdicut Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:07:14pm |
re: #315 KingKenrod
And what does your created strawman have to do with the theological concept, exactly?
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jamesfirecat Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:07:52pm |
re: #335 Charles
I thrive on it.
Well as Prince of Space would tell you the trick of it all is to choose really incompetent enemies...
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:08:11pm |
re: #331 Charles
dude, i have to make sure i don't ignore my fam for being a productive (heh...let me dream) part of the blog. how do these cretins explain their obsessions to their families?
"no, honey, i can't take Johnny to soccer because i have got to make teh interweb understand how crazy Charles is!!!"
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:08:58pm |
Sooo.....Father Coughlin started the National Union for Social Justice. Is it as simple as the egotist Beck trying to distance himself from Coughlin? Wasn't his show today about how he wasn't Coughlin?
Doubt it's this simple, but interesting that I found that on the google.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:09:56pm |
re: #330 Cato the Elder
Just to be clear i'm not being derisive on the matter of EoO - was just not menaing to bring the whole *spread the wealth* thing screaming through the mud again so kept it short.
Was just seeking to relay the policy debate in the UK on the matter to y'all.
The safetynet aspect is a given in the UK through both forms of what people seek to accomplish under the banner. It's a generally progressive/one nation ideal - the Conservative party here is onboard too.
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:11:26pm |
re: #340 Aceofwhat?
dude, i have to make sure i don't ignore my fam for being a productive (heh...let me dream) part of the blog. how do these cretins explain their obsessions to their families?
"no, honey, i can't take Johnny to soccer because i have got to make teh interweb understand how crazy Charles is!!!"
Someone needs to photoshop this classic to make it be about the stalkers....Gus? Jimmah?
I humbly suggest the first speaker should be their mommy asking them to leave the basement because dinner is ready...
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freetoken Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:11:36pm |
Creationism updated: The DI is wailing because a former head of the AAAS has dismantled Meyer's book "Signature in the Cell." The ID community are having conniptions.
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:14:28pm |
re: #341 Stanley Sea
Sooo...Father Coughlin started the National Union for Social Justice. Is it as simple as the egotist Beck trying to distance himself from Coughlin? Wasn't his show today about how he wasn't Coughlin?
Doubt it's this simple, but interesting that I found that on the google.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Beck might possibly be worried about being considered anti-Catholic, insofar as he ever worries about anything:
Although many Protestant denomination express concerns about social justice, the term is most closely associated with the social teachings of the Catholic Church. A Jesuit priest, Luigi Taparelli D’Azeglio, coined the term in the 1840s and based the concept on the teachings of Thomas Aquinas.
According to the Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church, “a large part of the Church’s social teaching is solicited and determined by important social questions, to which social justice is the proper answer.” Social justice is even given a section in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
Could Beck’s claim be construed as “anti-Catholic?” Yes and no. I think if anyone else had made the remark it would have been hard to dismiss the anti-Catholic undertones. But Beck is a special case: He is too prone to say any dumb thing that pops into his head and too ignorant about history and religion to truly understand the implications of his statement. This doesn’t excuse him, of course, but it certainly is reason not to be too shocked when a self-professed “rodeo clown” advises people to leave their churches over Catholic “code words” like social justice.
Still, I’m curious to see how Beck’s loyal defenders will excuse his latest outrageous remarks. If we’re not supposed to take him seriously when he says stuff like this, when exactly are we to take him seriously?
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:14:45pm |
re: #344 freetoken
Creationism updated: The DI is wailing because a former head of the AAAS has dismantled Meyer's book "Signature in the Cell." The ID community are having conniptions.
Medical science now knows how to cure conniptions. But it involves drugs that are based on evolutionary theory.
My, my, what's a creationist to do?
Continue with the conniptions, would be my guess...
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Spare O'Lake Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:15:00pm |
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:15:46pm |
re: #330 Cato the Elder
When people talk derisively about "equality of outcome", they are talking through their asshats.
Social justice is about taking care of the weak, the widows and orphans, the sick, the disabled, the downtrodden, the forgotten ones.
Just like it says in the Hebrew Bible and the Christian Gospels and - yes! - the Koran.
It is not about turning the weak into the strong - an impossibility - but about the strong using their strength for something more powerful and mighty than increasing their own little fiefdoms.
Quite so. In Luke, I believe, the passage about if you hold a feast, invite the poor, the infirm, and the lame, because they cannot repay you but I will.
(paraphrased)
And further, about making the weak understand that when they do something little to help those around them, it feels big not just to them but to God as well. The verse about the widow who contributed "two mites" but in Jesus' eyes, contributed "more than you all" gets me every time.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:16:50pm |
re: #343 iceweasel
Someone needs to photoshop this classic to make it be about the stalkers...Gus? Jimmah?
I humbly suggest the first speaker should be their mommy asking them to leave the basement because dinner is ready...
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webevintage Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:16:58pm |
So Johnny Weir might be too gay for figure skating?
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
(I don't like figure skating, but I happen to like Weir. So not Stars on Ice for me.)
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Gus Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:17:19pm |
re: #343 iceweasel
Someone needs to photoshop this classic to make it be about the stalkers...Gus? Jimmah?
I humbly suggest the first speaker should be their mommy asking them to leave the basement because dinner is ready...
I'd have to put some thought into that...
Are you going to bed Jamiewearingfool?
...I can't mom, this is important.
What?
...I have to post something about Charles on the internet!
/
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:17:33pm |
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:17:51pm |
re: #350 webevintage
So Johnny Weir might be too gay for figure skating?
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
(I don't like figure skating, but I happen to like Weir. So not Stars on Ice for me.)
Weir is a good skater. But Yevgeni Plushenko is Teh Sexy.
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:18:20pm |
re: #349 Alouette
Yes. :)
It still carries the implication that they have someone to sleep with other than their girlfriend made of rags, though.
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:18:52pm |
re: #351 Gus 802
I'd have to put some thought into that...
Are you going to bed Jamiewearingfool?
...I can't mom, this is important.
What?
...I have to post something about Charles on the internet!
/
I need to stalk Charles on the internet!
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Obdicut Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:19:31pm |
re: #354 iceweasel
And that their motivation is Charles being wrong, when it's a bit more twisted than that.
Still funny though, Alouette. Just carping.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:21:35pm |
re: #354 iceweasel
Yes. :)
It still carries the implication that they have someone to sleep with other than their girlfriend made of rags, though.
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Spare O'Lake Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:23:10pm |
re: #314 Cato the Elder
Consider the context. Mandy micturates on the name of God in Arabic every time she posts. And then has the brass balls to lecture us about Jesus and social justice.
Whatever.
It's not as if you haven't already expressed your views on the cartoon ad nauseum.
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freetoken Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:23:51pm |
Meanwhile, back in the heartland, state legislators are having their fun:
Don’t define gays under domestic abuse protection, lawmaker proposes
A Windsor Heights representative unsuccessfully lobbied for the House today to adopt an amendment to a domestic abuse bill that would have defined a spouse as between one man and one woman.
[...]
Rep. Chris Hagenow, R-Windsor Heights, offered an amendment that would define the term spouse to be a person of marriage that is valid under Iowa law that says marriage is between one man and one woman.
Because, well, homosexual-union spouses can't be abused because they can't be spouses, or something like that.
Amendment would keep local hate crime files in Oklahoma
A state law enforcement agency would not be required to share investigative files with federal agencies under changes proposed to the state’s hate crime bill.
In an amendment presented on the Senate floor Wednesday afternoon, Sen. Steve Russell, R-Oklahoma City, gutted a bill that had been filed to create a task force to study the Oklahoma Secondary School Activities Association, and inserted language to make changes to the state’s hate crime statutes.
Under the new provisions of Senate Bill 1965, reports that were collected during investigations of possible hate crime that did not end in a conviction would be destroyed or kept by the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation.
Russell said the bill is meant to prevent the federal law enforcement officials from taking over a case and applying different standards when local law enforcement has already investigated a case.
Because a hate crime in other states isn't a hate crime in Oklahoma...
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:24:23pm |
re: #358 iceweasel
Same one, I think? Still funny though, and you're fast!
Reload, I changed the first line "You have to go to bed now. It's a school night."
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:24:54pm |
re: #361 Alouette
Reload, I changed the first line "You have to go to bed now. It's a school night."
hahaha-- excellent!
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:25:50pm |
re: #359 Spare O'Lake
Whatever.
It's not as if you haven't already expressed your views on the cartoon adnauseumnauseam.
FTFY.
I'm shipping you a case of Pepto-Bismol by overnight express. You're going to need it.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:27:46pm |
re: #360 freetoken
Because a hate crime in other states isn't a hate crime in Oklahoma...
Oklahoma crime...no conviction...why would the feds want to swoop in again when the locals have already done their gig? (don't get us started on hate crimes...)
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b_sharp Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:27:59pm |
re: #285 Walter L. Newton
Ya better...
So when a half-breed breaks the rules, I deport their sorry ass straight back to hell. I don't get them all, but I've been hoping to get enough to ensure my... retirement.
Half breed?
Mind explaining what you mean by that so I don't have to rely on my initial reaction to interpret?
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Mich-again Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:28:03pm |
re: #360 freetoken
A Windsor Heights representative unsuccessfully lobbied for the House today to adopt an amendment to a domestic abuse bill that would have defined a spouse as between one man and one woman.
That is a truly pathetic pursuit, even by politician standards.
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Daniel Ballard Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:28:16pm |
re: #263 iceweasel
Hi
Hey it can go like that but I'll share a story from my front yard. I wake up to the sound of screaming. It's summer all the windows are wide open. From my second story bathroom I look out to see a man roughing a woman up, not beating her just grabbing and shoving. The woman is cowering. It's 2:30 am. I have Dragon_Lady on 9-11 calling LAPD. Then he goes to slap or hit at her. I start yelling at this guy I'm watching, I have a gun and to leave her alone and that the cops are coming. Then I heard him say to her "You lucky bitch people keep saving you, I'll kill you one day". At that point I was about to get out there and intervene directly, and I would not do that unarmed. I yell at him again, made some explicit threats, and he takes off. Thing is she runs off too, but the other way. Anyway I am so glad I broke that fight up. I admit it was from a safe place but still.... I was chilled to the bone by his threat against her.
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Gus Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:28:34pm |
re: #343 iceweasel
Someone needs to photoshop this classic to make it be about the stalkers...Gus? Jimmah?
I humbly suggest the first speaker should be their mommy asking them to leave the basement because dinner is ready...
OK...
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albusteve Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:30:07pm |
re: #363 Cato the Elder
FTFY.
I'm shipping you a case of Pepto-Bismol by overnight express. You're going to need it.
I think you should change your avatar to Mickey Mouse, to better represent your attitude toward other people's avatars...bwahaha!....c'mon laugh
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freetoken Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:30:19pm |
re: #364 Aceofwhat?
Because if there is a federal law then it is the responsibility of a US Attorney to prosecute it.
Besides that, what if the crime crossed interstate lines?
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Aye Pod Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:30:45pm |
re: #343 iceweasel
Someone needs to photoshop this classic to make it be about the stalkers...Gus? Jimmah?
I humbly suggest the first speaker should be their mommy asking them to leave the basement because dinner is ready...
Ok - here's one :
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:30:55pm |
re: #365 b_sharp
Half breed?
Mind explaining what you mean by that so I don't have to rely on my initial reaction to interpret?
you know...like when a Wookiee and an Ithorian reeeally love each other...
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:31:42pm |
re: #369 albusteve
I think you should change your avatar to Mickey Mouse, to better represent your attitude toward other people's avatars...bwahaha!...c'mon laugh
If I did that, Disney would shut down the blog until I removed it. You don't mess with The Mouse and his army of lawyers.
The creator of Calvin has no such leverage. Though I might just send him a screenshot one of these days to see what happens.
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brookly red Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:32:22pm |
re: #374 Cato the Elder
If I did that, Disney would shut down the blog until I removed it. You don't mess with The Mouse and his army of lawyers.
The creator of Calvin has no such leverage. Though I might just send him a screenshot one of these days to see what happens.
informer...
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:32:50pm |
re: #371 freetoken
Because if there is a federal law then it is the responsibility of a US Attorney to prosecute it.
Besides that, what if the crime crossed interstate lines?
then some other state would be prosecuting it and the point would be moot.
and i don't begrudge any state to feel the same way about hate crimes that i do. they're...what's the right word...inventive.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:33:34pm |
re: #374 Cato the Elder
If I did that, Disney would shut down the blog until I removed it. You don't mess with The Mouse and his army of lawyers.
The creator of Calvin has no such leverage. Though I might just send him a screenshot one of these days to see what happens.
You never see Calvin's likeness anywhere since Bill Watterson is so litigious. I'm sure he'll be quick to respond.
//
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albusteve Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:33:35pm |
re: #364 Aceofwhat?
Oklahoma crime...no conviction...why would the feds want to swoop in again when the locals have already done their gig? (don't get us started on hate crimes...)
hate crimes are a figment of some do gooders imagination...how about....crimes of passion? or happy fun crimes?....I beat up a liberal and steal his money, that would be a happy fun crime
jus kidding
| 381 |
prairiefire Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:36:03pm |
re: #291 Walter L. Newton
I know it, Walter! He was building the Church, His Body on earth after he ascended to Heaven. It's why I, and my family, rejected the Fundamentalists. They are not ordained through the laying on of hands like the Presbyterian minister down the street. They have no accountability to the body of Christ and often interject all kinds of baloney of their own making.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:36:30pm |
re: #379 rwdflynavy
You never see Calvin's likeness anywhere since Bill Watterson is so litigious. I'm sure he'll be quick to respond.
//
He has, however, let it be known that he hates it when people abuse Calvin's image. You might think a defender of free enterprise and intellectual property would respect that.
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b_sharp Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:36:38pm |
re: #373 Aceofwhat?
you know...like when a Wookiee and an Ithorian reeeally love each other...
Yup, uh huh. Right.
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albusteve Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:37:04pm |
re: #374 Cato the Elder
If I did that, Disney would shut down the blog until I removed it. You don't mess with The Mouse and his army of lawyers.
The creator of Calvin has no such leverage. Though I might just send him a screenshot one of these days to see what happens.
RAT POWER!
| 385 |
b_sharp Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:37:12pm |
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The Sanity Inspector Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:38:37pm |
It's not scat enough in here...
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Gus Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:39:30pm |
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Mich-again Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:39:31pm |
re: #367 Rightwingconspirator
Summer nights when I was a kid we got to listen to the drunkass redneck in the house behind the alley from us beat up the wife every so often, then again sometimes she got him with the frying pan or a plate so it kind of evened out. Especially if was really drunk. She'd whup him good. Classy people. We'd call the cops and they'd show up at the door and the lady would answer with a fat lip or a black eye and tell the cops everything was ok and they'd talk for a few moments and then leave.
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:41:01pm |
re: #387 Gus 802
Also hearted. I hear that one in the voice of Cartman's mom...."I have Cheesy Poofs!"
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:43:33pm |
re: #365 b_sharp
Half breed?
Mind explaining what you mean by that so I don't have to rely on my initial reaction to interpret?
It's a movie quote... Keenu Reeves... Constantine... don't get you feathers ruffled... Geeesssshhhhh.
| 391 |
Ojoe Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:43:39pm |
re: #366 Mich-again
Plus gays beat each other up sometimes too.
So the representative wants that to be OK?
Feh.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:43:40pm |
re: #386 The Sanity Inspector
It's not scat enough in here...
Inspiring!
I believe someone we know here used to jam with Al.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:44:15pm |
kinda melancholy, between the stalkers and hate crimes conversation.
like the world's gone a little mad...
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Varek Raith Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:44:27pm |
re: #390 Walter L. Newton
It's a movie quote... Keenu Reeves... Constantine... don't get you feathers ruffled... Geeessshhh.
So...b_sharp's a human/bird hybrid????
/
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Daniel Ballard Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:45:04pm |
re: #388 Mich-again
Not here after OJ. He goes to jail on a $50,000 bail.
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Spare O'Lake Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:45:16pm |
'Hated Israel will be annihalated'
By JPOST.COM STAFF
11/03/2010 15:48
Ahmadinejad warns aggression won't save "most criminal regime in the world."
The Palestinians and the nations of the Middle East will be rid of a “bad omen” once Israel is annihilated, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Thursday, in a speech communicated by Press TV.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:45:30pm |
re: #147 Killgore Trout
Hmmm, some kind of anti-inflamitory might be a good idea. Have you tried good old aspirin yet?
Had a huge ibuprofen dose and drank lots of hot tea. It's feeling a lot better.
| 398 |
Charles Johnson Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:45:42pm |
These xkcd remixes might deserve a post. I'm laughin' over here.
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Gus Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:46:05pm |
re: #389 iceweasel
Also hearted. I hear that one in the voice of Cartman's mom..."I have Cheesy Poofs!"
Now with Cheesy Poofs.
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Digital Display Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:46:23pm |
re: #389 iceweasel
Also hearted. I hear that one in the voice of Cartman's mom..."I have Cheesy Poofs!"
You know I had never seen South park before some years ago when I visited my folks house one night.. They were laughing at this crazy Cartoon with kids cussing like crazy...Get in the kitchen and bake me some pie!
I thought Mom and Dad had finally lost it..Who knew?
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:46:54pm |
g'night all.
am back in the uk after several weeks in the US with my texan GF.
*sigh*
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Ojoe Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:47:10pm |
re: #397 SanFranciscoZionist
Ginger is an anti-inflammatory too, & you can make ginger tea.
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Varek Raith Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:47:24pm |
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:47:42pm |
re: #401 wozzablog
g'night all.
am back in the uk after several weeks in the US with my texan GF.
*sigh*
Have some fish-and-chips with bacon for me!
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Digital Display Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:47:45pm |
re: #401 wozzablog
g'night all.
am back in the uk after several weeks in the US with my texan GF.
*sigh*
Be Well and best wishes
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:47:46pm |
re: #394 Varek Raith
So...b_sharp's a human/bird hybrid???
/
I never called anyone a half-breed. Go up thread and read the comment and my quote... we were talking about religion and I made a quote from a movie...
Are we trying to start an argument?
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:47:59pm |
re: #399 Gus 802
Now with Cheesy Poofs.
Best one YET!
re: #398 Charles
These xkcd remixes might deserve a post. I'm laughin' over here.
Oh yay! Give us a few more minutes, I'm certain the clever ones among us will have even more.
Varek, I'm lookin' at you. Come on!
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:48:02pm |
re: #168 Guanxi88
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
In the Biblical Book of Genesis, Onan (Hebrew: אוֹנָן, Modern Onan Tiberian ʾװnān ; Strong) was the second son of Judah.[1] Certain interpretations of the narrative concerning him have led to the term onanism, which means masturbation or coitus interruptus.
According to the text, after God had killed Onan's older brother Er, Judah asked Onan to have sexual intercourse with Tamar and impregnate her, the widow of Er, so that the child or children could be declared to be Er's heir(s).[2] Onan had sex with Tamar, but performed coitus interruptus each time, spilling his "seed" (semen) on the ground, so that there would not be any offspring which he could not claim as his own.[3] The passage states that this displeased God, who killed Onan as his punishment.[4]
Tamar is eventually forced to trick her father-in-law into sleeping with her in order to get pregnant.
And generations have named their parakeets Onan, 'because they spill their seed on the ground'.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:48:20pm |
re: #389 iceweasel
Also hearted. I hear that one in the voice of Cartman's mom..."I have Cheesy Poofs!"
Speaking of Cartman -
[Link: washingtonindependent.com...]
Employees of the CIA-connected private security corporation Blackwater diverted hundreds of weapons, including more than 500 AK-47 assault rifles, from a U.S. weapons bunker in Afghanistan intended to equip Afghan policemen, according to an investigation by the Senate Armed Services Committee. On at least one occasion, an individual claiming to work for the company evidently signed for a weapons shipment using the name of a “South Park” cartoon character. And Blackwater has yet to return hundreds of the guns to the military.
The season premier of South Park next Wednesday will depict Cartman himself signing for 500 AK-47s. Yay!
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albusteve Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:48:33pm |
re: #396 Spare O'Lake
no big deal...anybody that believes him is a fear mongering alarmist
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Varek Raith Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:48:38pm |
re: #406 Walter L. Newton
I never called anyone a half-breed. Go up thread and read the comment and my quote... we were talking about religion and I made a quote from a movie...
Are we trying to start an argument?
Sigh, I fail at sarcasm...
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The Sanity Inspector Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:49:57pm |
re: #392 Cato the Elder
Inspiring!
I believe someone we know here used to jam with Al.
Someone uploaded a batch of these 1984 clips just a few months ago.
And the other day, when I was watching that old George Duke video from 1978, it hit me: I actually saw that on TV at the time, on Midnight Special. I had never seen that band before, never saw them again, but for some reason it stuck with me, as childhood memories irrationally will sometimes. When it got to the end with Duke yelling "Thank you so much!", I knew.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:50:40pm |
re: #220 KingKenrod
Social justices as a choice that each individual makes, not as something enforced by secular authorities. The social justice movement is about enforcing equality of outcome through law.
Where in the Gospels does Jesus say anything remotely like that?
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Varek Raith Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:51:21pm |
re: #406 Walter L. Newton
I never called anyone a half-breed. Go up thread and read the comment and my quote... we were talking about religion and I made a quote from a movie...
Are we trying to start an argument?
Apologies, Walter. I was making a joke about your "ruffled feathers" comment.
:)
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:51:53pm |
re: #415 SanFranciscoZionist
Where in the Gospels does Jesus say anything remotely like that?
thank you for illustrating that bringing Jesus into political discussions is almost always a recipe for fail casserole.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:52:03pm |
re: #239 MandyManners
Yes. Christ was not about the kingdom of earth but about the kingdom of Heaven.
So when he told his followers to sell all they had and give it to the poor, he meant only after they got to Heaven?
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:53:41pm |
re: #419 SanFranciscoZionist
So when he told his followers to sell all they had and give it to the poor, he meant only after they got to Heaven?
Nowhere in the scriptures is Jesus quoted as having said, "Simon Says".
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brookly red Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:53:50pm |
re: #419 SanFranciscoZionist
So when he told his followers to sell all they had and give it to the poor, he meant only after they got to Heaven?
well you can't take it with you ;)
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b_sharp Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:54:35pm |
re: #390 Walter L. Newton
It's a movie quote... Keenu Reeves... Constantine... don't get you feathers ruffled... Geeessshhh.
No sweat. That's why I asked, I didn't want to jump to conclusions.
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:54:41pm |
re: #410 negativ
The season premier of South Park next Wednesday will depict Cartman himself signing for 500 AK-47s. Yay!
Awesome. I posted that Wash Indep story here in spinoffs I think when it first ran. We had a little discussion on it in a couple of threads. Didn't seem to get too much attention anywhere else, so far as I know.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:54:42pm |
re: #289 KingKenrod
Exactly my point. People will choose to do bad things unless the threat of sanction forces them to behave. In Christianity, this is the natural human condition, and Christ is the only salvation from this condition. This idea directly contradicts the notion that an equal world can be achieved through secular authority.
So people should stop going to churches that tell them how to behave through Christ?
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Varek Raith Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:54:43pm |
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b_sharp Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:55:43pm |
re: #394 Varek Raith
So...b_sharp's a human/bird hybrid???
/
Only on Thursdays. On Sundays I'm a horse/flying monkey hybrid.
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albusteve Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:56:21pm |
re: #424 SanFranciscoZionist
So people should stop going to churches that tell them how to behave through Christ?
what a novel concept..how does one behave 'through Christ'?....I think it's worth a try anyway
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The Sanity Inspector Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:56:51pm |
re: #415 SanFranciscoZionist
Where in the Gospels does Jesus say anything remotely like that?
He doesn't, that's the problem with it. In common parlance and in frequent practice, "social justice" is simply the familiar liberal agenda with a divine seal affixed to it.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:57:03pm |
re: #424 SanFranciscoZionist
So people should stop going to churches that tell them how to behave through Christ?
That's what Beck says. At least if those churches tell people about social justice - something Jesus absolutely never commented on.
(Is he reading the Conservapedia version?)
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freetoken Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:58:16pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:58:22pm |
re: #402 Ojoe
Ginger is an anti-inflammatory too, & you can make ginger tea.
I may have some stuff with ginger in it in the house. If not, I'll run get some from the store later.
I have had this happen before with colds, but not this bad. I'm e-mailing my doctor about it.
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b_sharp Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:58:29pm |
re: #428 The Sanity Inspector
He doesn't, that's the problem with it. In common parlance and in frequent practice, "social justice" is simply the familiar liberal agenda with a divine seal affixed to it.
Everything that comes from a liberal perspective is bad and should be discounted out of hand, right?
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brookly red Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:58:33pm |
wait... I am the poor. But if you sell yours and give it to me I won't be poor any more... so now I gotta sell that & give it back to you cause you are now the poor... somebody must be skimming here.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:58:34pm |
re: #428 The Sanity Inspector
He doesn't, that's the problem with it. In common parlance and in frequent practice, "social justice" is simply the familiar liberal agenda with a divine seal affixed to it.
More bullshit. Tell it to the Pope.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:59:17pm |
Transgenic nuclear powered atomic supertrout!
Development of More Muscular Trout Could Boost Commercial Aquaculture
A 10-year effort by a University of Rhode Island scientist to develop transgenic rainbow trout with enhanced muscle growth has yielded fish with what have been described as six-pack abs and muscular shoulders that could provide a boost to the commercial aquaculture industry.
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Spare O'Lake Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:00:25pm |
re: #363 Cato the Elder
FTFY.
I'm shipping you a case of Pepto-Bismol by overnight express. You're going to need it.
No thanks, but a case of Dalwhinnie 15 would not be rejected.
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:00:43pm |
re: #428 The Sanity Inspector
He doesn't, that's the problem with it. In common parlance and in frequent practice, "social justice" is simply the familiar liberal agenda with a divine seal affixed to it.
Social justice is part of the Catholic Catechism, and also part of most mainline protestant denominations. Feeding the hungry, clothing the poor, tending to the sick.
If these are now supposedly purely 'liberal' agendas, I think quite a few conservatives are going to object to that.
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brookly red Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:01:09pm |
re: #435 Killgore Trout
Transgenic nuclear powered atomic supertrout!
Development of More Muscular Trout Could Boost Commercial Aquaculture
Soho man attacked by sushi... film at 11:00.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:01:16pm |
re: #431 SanFranciscoZionist
I may have some stuff with ginger in it in the house. If not, I'll run get some from the store later.
I have had this happen before with colds, but not this bad. I'm e-mailing my doctor about it.
I'm a big fan of Shiitake and ginger broth. Just boil the mushrooms and fresh ginger for 10-20 minutes and drink the broth. Tasty and really clears out the lungs and sinuses.
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Racer X Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:01:48pm |
Hello Lizards!
Late to the party - but the "Crisis Herb Garden" damn near made me wet myself.
Howz you all?
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:01:53pm |
re: #428 The Sanity Inspector
He doesn't, that's the problem with it. In common parlance and in frequent practice, "social justice" is simply the familiar liberal agenda with a divine seal affixed to it.
I disagree. In fact, I would say that 'liberal agenda' as it exists in America has long been an expression of Christianity in our culture, and to say that 'social justice' is an evil that should require you to leave your church if they speak of it is nearly insane.
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Digital Display Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:02:20pm |
re: #424 SanFranciscoZionist
So people should stop going to churches that tell them how to behave through Christ?
Job
The lesson always known though out mankind's History..
It doesn't matter about wealth, Power and influence To God...
It doesn't matter if you lose all there is to lose in this world...
It doesn't matter about abject poverty..It doesn't matter if you are the richest man in the world..
It doesn't matter if they march 6 million innocent souls to the furnaces..
All I know about God is he only cares about your heart...Nothing else...
Only Character and heart make it to Heaven.. That's all I know
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b_sharp Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:02:43pm |
re: #439 Killgore Trout
I'm a big fan of Shiitake and ginger broth. Just boil the mushrooms and fresh ginger for 10-20 minutes and drink the broth. Tasty and really clears out the lungs and sinuses.
What does it do for the back end, where the real action occurs?
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Ojoe Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:03:46pm |
re: #434 Cato the Elder
And, read Rerum Novarum I hope I spelled that correctly. 1891 too, way ahead of the curve.
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The Sanity Inspector Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:03:53pm |
re: #432 b_sharp
Everything that comes from a liberal perspective is bad and should be discounted out of hand, right?
Er, maybe you've got me mixed up with someone else. I thought I put enough qualifiers in there to avoid overstating the case.
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Uninformed Opinion Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:04:22pm |
re: #435 Killgore Trout
Transgenic nuclear powered atomic supertrout!
Development of More Muscular Trout Could Boost Commercial Aquaculture
I will be stocking those in a secret location...
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Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:04:28pm |
re: #443 b_sharp
What does it do for the back end, where the real action occurs?
Some people take it for stomach problems too, it doesn't have much effect on my intestines so I can't vouch for anything.
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Ojoe Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:05:06pm |
re: #442 HoosierHoops
Only Character and heart make it to Heaven.. That's all I know
It would not be heaven otherwise.
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Velvet Elvis Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:05:25pm |
re: #435 Killgore Trout
Transgenic nuclear powered atomic supertrout!
Development of More Muscular Trout Could Boost Commercial Aquaculture
But wouldn't they taste like crap?
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:05:34pm |
Looks like another fake O'Keefe/Breitbart scandal is coming right up:
Late last year, O’Keefe and fellow activist Joe Basel went into the Detroit and Chicago offices of the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) with a hidden camera. They pretended to be scam artists, asking employees there to participate in a complex kickback scheme involving federal incentives for first-time home buyers. In the excerpted footage shown to me by O’Keefe, the staffers seemed only to happy to comply.
The law says that the tax credit maxes out at $8,000 for an $80,000 home. On the tape, O’Keefe asked a staffer, “What if I bought a place for $50,000, but the seller and I agreed to write down $80,000 as the purchase price?”
“Flip it any way you want,” the staffer replied.
What if the place is worth much less — like only $6,000?
“Yup, you can do that.”
I wish I could provide more details — like the names of the staffers, or the exact dates of the recordings. But O’Keefe showed me the tapes just once, and quickly. O’Keefe did mention, however, that he was surprised he was able to avoid the federal buildings’ security systems
Read More [Link: www.wired.com...]
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brookly red Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:06:22pm |
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freetoken Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:07:00pm |
re: #450 iceweasel
Looks like another fake O'Keefe/Breitbart scandal is coming right up:
Remember, a baker has to bake bread every morning to stay in business...
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jaunte Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:07:05pm |
re: #449 Conservative Moonbat
But wouldn't they taste like crap?
Worse, they might wind up running for governor of California.
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albusteve Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:07:32pm |
all this heavenly punching is making me woozie...it raises some problematic questions indeed
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Gus Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:08:45pm |
re: #452 Jimmah
And another!
[Link: i238.photobucket.com...]
Nice one! They're head at work as we speak copying and pasting our every word!!1111!1!11
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brookly red Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:09:18pm |
re: #454 jaunte
Worse, they might wind up running for governor of California.
well at least the water bill will pass...
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:09:19pm |
re: #453 freetoken
Remember, a baker has to bake bread every morning to stay in business...
The wingnutsphere's taste (and especially Breitbart's taste) for serving shit sandwiches remains unabated.
New bread, still a shit sandwich.
Dunno if this is up on Breitbart yet-- the wired guy did an interview with Breitbart and posted that today, mentioned the HUD tapes in it, and I guess threw this story together too.
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Digital Display Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:10:02pm |
re: #455 albusteve
all this heavenly punching is making me woozie...it raises some problematic questions indeed
Heaven can wait
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freetoken Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:10:53pm |
re: #458 iceweasel
This topic was kicked around earlier today downstairs, forget where. We all expect another brietbart special.
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Gus Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:11:42pm |
re: #460 freetoken
This topic was kicked around earlier today downstairs, forget where. We all expect another brietbart special.
Another installment of Breitbart's Vault.
/
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The Sanity Inspector Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:11:55pm |
re: #437 iceweasel
Social justice is part of the Catholic Catechism, and also part of most mainline protestant denominations. Feeding the hungry, clothing the poor, tending to the sick.
If these are now supposedly purely 'liberal' agendas, I think quite a few conservatives are going to object to that.
There is already a sturdy, time-honored term for those worthy actions: "charity". Having enjoyed the blessings of giving and receiving it over the years, I'm all for it.
What I object to is the cloaking of a political agenda, which often thwarts real charity and real uplift, with the hijacked language of charity. There's nothing charitable about keeping people trapped on welfare generation after generation. Yet welfare-to-work was assailed as a heartless violation of social justice when it came into being. And that's just one example.
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Velvet Elvis Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:12:19pm |
Texas Judge Declares Death Penalty Unconstitutional
A Houston judge who declared the death penalty unconstitutional Thursday clarified his ruling in an impromptu hearing Friday, saying he ruled the procedures surrounding the process in Texas are illegal.
During Friday's hearing, prosecutors filed motions asking state District Judge Kevin Fine to reconsider his ruling and also to proceed with April's death penalty trial of John Edward Green Jr. Fine maintained at the hearing that he believes innocent people have been executed.
Fine's clarification came in the wake of a firestorm of criticism from District Attorney Pat Lykos, the Texas Attorney General's Office and Gov. Rick Perry protesting that Fine ignored well-settled law.
Fine is expected to rule on the motions next week. He did not return calls for comment Friday.
When asked direct questions Thursday about his ruling, Fine said he was declaring the death penalty unconstitutional because he believes innocent people have been executed.
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The Sanity Inspector Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:12:39pm |
re: #433 brookly red
wait... I am the poor. But if you sell yours and give it to me I won't be poor any more... so now I gotta sell that & give it back to you cause you are now the poor... somebody must be skimming here.
The more you get, the more you have. The more you give, the more you are.
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:13:09pm |
apologies if this was already mentioned too:
Beck: Fox News executive told me ‘you are the key’ to surviving ‘a global economic holocaust.’
Fox News host Glenn Beck has made a trademark of propagating outlandish conspiracy theories and far-right rhetoric, but his employers at Fox have long claimed that his views do not reflect the network’s. On his radio show today, however, Beck revealed that in a private meeting, a Fox vice president endorsed his apocalyptic fear-mongering, telling Beck that “everything you’ve been talking about is coming”:
BECK: [A] global economic holocaust is coming. I don’t know when it’s coming, but it is coming. And I was in this meeting and I pulled one of the guys out, he’s a vice president of Fox. And I said, “When I first started working with you — let’s have a frank conversation here — you thought I was nuts.” And he smiled and he said, “No, I would say I just thought you were on the cutting edge.” And I said, “okay, alright, sure.” I said, “Now?” He said, “Glenn, everything you’re talking about is coming. Everything you’re talking about — everything you’ve been talking about for the last year and a half. It’s all here now. And what you’re saying is coming, I don’t see any other way.” [...]
Now the question is, where do we go from here? … And he said to me, he said, “Glenn, the answer is, you’ve been saying it for a while,” he said, “but we have to convince the audience that this is really truly true. You are the key. You must be able to reach to your friends and your neighbors, you must, must, must, bring one person to the table.”
Audio at link.
BuY SeEDs!
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Jetpilot1101 Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:13:22pm |
I'm off to bed Lizards. Have a great night.
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Daniel Ballard Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:13:31pm |
re: #440 Racer X
Hey Racer, How is your evening?
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The Sanity Inspector Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:14:20pm |
re: #434 Cato the Elder
More bullshit. Tell it to the Pope.
What the current and immediately previous pontiffs label as social justice, I'll consider with respect. They've got no ulterior motive.
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Varek Raith Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:14:42pm |
re: #465 iceweasel
I'm pre-forming a post-apocalyptic gang. Want in???
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:14:47pm |
re: #462 The Sanity Inspector
There is already a sturdy, time-honored term for those worthy actions: "charity".
The sturdy and timehonoured term the Catholic Church uses is 'social justice'. See links upthread.
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Velvet Elvis Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:15:00pm |
re: #465 iceweasel
I saw that but it's worth seeing again. I'm increasingly convinced the guy's bipolar or something. That's delusions of grandiosity right there.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:15:14pm |
re: #442 HoosierHoops
All I know about God is he only cares about your heart...Nothing else...
Only Character and heart make it to Heaven.. That's all I know
quite true...though what is Faith without the evidence?
"If a brother or a sister is naked and destitute of daily food, and one of you says to them 'depart in peace, be warmed and filled', but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit?"
James chapter 2...
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The Left Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:16:08pm |
re: #470 Varek Raith
I'm pre-forming a post-apocalyptic gang. Want in???
Yes! I can till the earth with a human femur, as Colbert suggests.
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albusteve Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:16:50pm |
re: #469 freetoken
Yes, it was.
BUY GOLD!
I could sell my gold substantially under market value and still make a mint....buying gold is an excellent idea, especially 35 years ago....it helps to plan ahead
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Varek Raith Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:17:11pm |
re: #474 iceweasel
Yes! I can till the earth with a human femur, as Colbert suggests.
Cool. We'll need a mechanic to convert everyday autos into weapons of war...
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:17:47pm |
re: #289 KingKenrod
Exactly my point. People will choose to do bad things unless the threat of sanction forces them to behave. In Christianity, this is the natural human condition, and Christ is the only salvation from this condition. This idea directly contradicts the notion that an equal world can be achieved through secular authority.
And to think people say atheists are a bunch of cynical, misanthropic pessimists.
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albusteve Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:17:51pm |
re: #471 iceweasel
The sturdy and timehonoured term the Catholic Church uses is 'social justice'. See links upthread.
oh boy!...the charity/social justice semantics debate!...wooohooo!
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Varek Raith Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:18:10pm |
re: #477 negativ
And to think people say atheists are a bunch of cynical, misanthropic pessimists.
Nicely zinged.
:)
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Spare O'Lake Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:19:47pm |
Michael Moore is on CNN Anderson Cooper.
The fat slob says he's gonna help Obama find the balls to go back to his campaign promise of single payer HRC.
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Uninformed Opinion Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:21:02pm |
re: #481 Spare O'Lake
Michael Moore is on CNN Anderson Cooper.
The fat slob says he's gonna help Obama find the balls to go back to his campaign promise of single payer HRC.
I would like to see that...
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goddamnedfrank Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:21:03pm |
re: #476 Varek Raith
Cool. We'll need a mechanic to convert everyday autos into weapons of war...
I'm in, now we just need a feral child with a razor sharp boomerang.
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The Sanity Inspector Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:21:58pm |
re: #441 SanFranciscoZionist
I disagree. In fact, I would say that 'liberal agenda' as it exists in America has long been an expression of Christianity in our culture, and to say that 'social justice' is an evil that should require you to leave your church if they speak of it is nearly insane.
Agreed on the latter bit. On the former, I do not cede liberals the higher moral ground in our culture. Their good accomplishments are very real, and they deserve credit. But, they have not been alone in making this nation great, or even good. And their not-at-all infrequent wrong moves have been very wrong indeed, over the years.
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Spare O'Lake Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:22:36pm |
re: #475 albusteve
I could sell my gold substantially under market value and still make a mint...buying gold is an excellent idea, especially 35 years ago...it helps to plan ahead
Ship it all to me by overnight courier and I'll pay you less than market for it, no problem.
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KingKenrod Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:22:53pm |
re: #478 albusteve
oh boy!...the charity/social justice semantics debate!...wooohooo!
I think we're all talking about different things...how about we just agree Beck is an idiot and move to the next thread?
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prairiefire Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:25:43pm |
re: #401 wozzablog
Texas gals are almost more goreous that Cali girls. I don't know, it's a call. Hope you had a good time!
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Racer X Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:31:03pm |
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Jadespring Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:36:01pm |
I'm totally late to this thread but have to comment on this.
I just looked at the survival site. First reaction is 'why didn't I think of this?"
Second reaction is 'what a bunch of liars and scammers.'
These seeds are not 'rare' and not grown in secret plots and they are not offering any sort 'deal'. Worth six hundred bucks? Ha ha ha ha.
I actually have some of those seeds and have catalogs that list every single one of the varieties in their pack. They're even carried by big seeds companies now. Heck the big seed companies actually grow some of them for sale. I did a quick calculation on the list prices in my catalogs and figured out that at the most you can get them for all for sixty bucks retail. These folks obviously get them wholesale from the seed growers so yeah, that's quite a profit margin there.
They're also pushing it on claims about their special packs and can that keeps them viable for years and years.
Anyways as much as I am a promoter of gardening and a promoter of people learning about and growing there own food I really dislike this sort of outright scamming.
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Jadespring Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:44:23pm |
re: #490 prairiefire
What a pipe dream they are selling!
LOL
I should qualify 'rare' a bit more. Yes they are 'rare' relative to many of the popular varieties and if suddenly everyone in NA switched to these varieties then sure there wouldn't be a supply, but they aren't scary rare as this site makes them out to be.
The other problem I see is that it is very generic and doesn't take into account the specifics of peoples region and growing conditions.
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Jadespring Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:04:06pm |
Ugh. I know this thread is now pretty much dead but here's another bunch of bull crap.
"Remember, non-hybrid seeds can be grown practically anywhere and have the ability to assimilate mineral and trace elements from the soil that man made plants just don't seem to have. That's because they were created by God as we read in Genesis:"
Do biology much? Obviously not.
Humans have been hybridizing and breeding plants since 'God made them". The seeds that they are selling ARE man made as they are a result of thousands of years of human plant breeding of wild plants. The ancestor of the big fat juicy tomato is a small grape size wild tomato that was breed into all the different varieties we have now. Same goes with every other vegetable.
Hybrid seeds are not GMO, though there are some hybrids that are GMO. Most GMO seeds are actually not hybrids.
Hybrids are plants that have been bred to take desirable traits from different plants and stick them together. There is no biological difference in how they function in terms of 'mineral uptake yadda yadda'.
The main difference between a hybrid and non hybrid seed and why most people who save seed from year to year use non-hybrids is that with a hybrid there is no guarantee that you'll get the same plant with the same traits if you save the seed. It will more then likely revert back to one of the varieties that made the hybrid in the first place. So for instance when I saved the seed from hybrid tomato and planted it again next year I ended up with plants that produced two different types of tomatoes, on smaller and sweeter then the original and one larger and more sour then the original.
Though rare but it is does happen, if someone does hybridize a plant and from year to year the seed produced actually 'stays true' then it eventually becomes a new variety that is considered a non-hybrid.
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Obdicut Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:37:26pm |
re: #484 The Sanity Inspector
That book is a classic strawman. She identifies the most idiotic intellectuals, claims they're influential, and proceeds to attack them.
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avanti Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:54:56pm |
OK, this is a long shot, but I'll ask anyway. This device was found in the Studebaker Engineering building, and no one has any idea of it's purpose. It is some sort of one off prototype "something" A friend acquired it and would like to know what the hell it is. Hint, it would have been built in the 60's and is about 12 feet long.
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prairiefire Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:36:09pm |
re: #494 avanti
I'm sure it was meant for the rider to sit with enough leg room to cycle. It's not clear if it's a bike or motor bike.
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andydp Fri, Mar 12, 2010 5:03:44am |
The more I see things like this, the more I agree with Mel Brooks in speaking about hate and bigotry:
You have to use humor and ridicule it. When you make it look foolish you take away its message.
Since this guy is saying non-hybrid seeds will pass gold in value, what does Glenn's gold sponsor have to say about this ?
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andydp Fri, Mar 12, 2010 5:08:51am |
re: #494 avanti
OK, this is a long shot, but I'll ask anyway. This device was found in the Studebaker Engineering building, and no one has any idea of it's purpose. It is some sort of one off prototype "something" A friend acquired it and would like to know what the hell it is. Hint, it would have been built in the 60's and is about 12 feet long.
Maybe an early all terrain vehicle of some sort ? The "tires" look like they would float on water or handle deep show/mud.
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