Wednesday Afternoon Metheny
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Here’s a midday music break with the Pat Metheny Group, from a 1992 performance at Japan’s “Live Under the Sky” music festival.
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Digital Display Wed, Mar 17, 2010 1:34:49pm |
What the hell kind of Guitar is Pat playing?
That must have been one of the early active electronics processors for the pickups...Those two black knobs must control them? See those black knobs? And who has a pick guard under their fore arm?
Pat is amazing...Anybody know about that axe he is playing?
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Kragar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 1:36:01pm |
Man, I just realized how much time passed. I zoned out for a good 30-45 minutes earlier.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 1:38:36pm |
Preview: Obama on 'Special Report' (Fox)
Looks like things got a little testy. Obama is pretty good about not letting people talk over him.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 1:38:46pm |
Tim Devlin has been arrested for IRA activities, and is serving his time in Long Kesh. While there, he receives a plaintive letter from his old father, a poor farmer, who writes that at his age it will be terribly hard to dig up his potato field for the planting.
Tim writes back promptly. "For Chrissakes, Da," he writes, "don't dig up that field! That's where I put the guns!"
The next day, at four in the morning, soldiers drive up to his father's farm, leap out of their vehicles, and vigorously dig up the entire potato field, hunting for the guns. Finding none, they leave.
Tim's Da writes back, telling him what happened. "They found no guns, son," he tells him. "What should I do now?"
"Plant the potatoes!" Tim tells him by return of post.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 1:39:03pm |
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Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 1:39:42pm |
re: #1 HoosierHoops
I don't recognize the logo on the headstock.
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Tigger2005 Wed, Mar 17, 2010 1:44:07pm |
I Am of Ireland
'I am of Ireland,
And the Holy Land of Ireland,
And time runs on,' cried she.
'Come out of charity,
Come dance with me in Ireland.'
One man, one man alone
In that outlandish gear,
One solitary man
Of all that rambled there
Had turned his stately head.
'That is a long way off,
And time runs on,' he said,
'And the night grows rough.'
'I am of Ireland,
And the Holy Land of Ireland,
And time runs on,' cried she.
'Come out of charity
And dance with me in Ireland.'
'The fiddlers are all thumbs,
Or the fiddle-string accursed,
The drums and the kettledrums
And the trumpets all are burst,
And the trombone,' cried he,
'The trumpet and trombone,'
And cocked a malicious eye,
'But time runs on, runs on.'
'I am of Ireland,
And the Holy Land of Ireland,
And time runs on,' cried she.
"Come out of charity
And dance with me in Ireland.'
William Butler Yeats
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Digital Display Wed, Mar 17, 2010 1:46:06pm |
re: #7 Jeff In Ohio
That guitar has to many knobs.
6 knobs and apparently a built in Keyboard.. There may be a flip up flat screen available in that model...USB inputs and stereo out..
/
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 1:46:20pm |
And more of Yeats:
Too long a sacrifice
Can make a stone of the heart.
O when may it suffice?
That is Heaven's part, our part
To murmur name upon name,
As a mother names her child
When sleep at last has come
On limbs that had run wild.
What is it but nightfall?
No, no, not night but death;
Was it needless death after all?
For England may keep faith
For all that is done and said.
We know their dream; enough
To know they dreamed and are dead;
And what if excess of love
Bewildered them till they died?
I write it out in a verse -
MacDonagh and MacBride
And Connolly and Pearse
Now and in time to be,
Wherever green is worn,
Are changed, changed utterly:
A terrible beauty is born.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Mar 17, 2010 1:50:44pm |
I just saw the Dangerous Minds interview about manners in society.
There was a great discussion about parenting and it got me thinking about my dad.
My father is a quiet, soft spoken and kindly intellectual. He speaks forcefully on issues that matter, but he really does look like a sort of Jewish Santa Claus with his big bushy beard and bull neck.
He started teaching me to play chess when I was two.
My parents were rather brilliant when I was little. Bedtime was strict - unless I was playing chess or reading. It made such things a privilege. The biggest privilege of all was my Sunday game of chess with dad. We would not just play, we would talk about all manner of things.
One time, when I was 12, and it was clear that I loved physics and would likely pursue that as a career, I sat down for the Sunday game. I was still about two years from being able to defeat him and he started a conversation about Maxwell's equations.
These are four little equations that contain everything there is to say about classical electromagnetism. They even contain special relativity if you know how to look. He went right into the propagation of light. It was the sort of discussion that a college freshman or even sophomore would dream his professor giving over so thoroughly. I've actually never heard a physics lecture that was equal to it in terms of the amount of directed insights and clarity of argument.
A few days later, dad sent me into his den - this is his study with all of his law books and a large portion of his personal library - to go fetch him something. On the corner of his desk were several of his old physics textbooks. Under them were notes - recent notes in his hand about Maxwell's equations and an outline for the talk he gave me. I know now that it must have taken him about two weeks to prepare the talk he did. Probably more since he hadn't looked at that stuff since college.
And that is really the point. My old man spent two weeks preparing for a two hour chat to teach his boy something.
That chess game was worth more to me than anything he ever bought me. So was every time we played catch with our beat up baseball mitts.
My reflection on that, in the context of the interview, is that people are as messed up as they are because we parent by absenteeism and proxy. We let the Television and the internet guide out kids. What bastions of manners, education and civility are those?
We are all so busy making a buck and so exhausted from it, that the basics slip away. We assuage our guilt in this by buying our kids stuff as a replacement for being there and being connected. We've replaced playing a game of catch with the old man with getting the boy a wii.
It is a losing bargain.
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Jeff In Ohio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 1:50:49pm |
re: #9 HoosierHoops
6 knobs and apparently a built in Keyboard.. There may be a flip up flat screen available in that model...USB inputs and stereo out..
/
Check out the dsub connector at the base of the lower bout. Heh.
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recusancy Wed, Mar 17, 2010 1:51:22pm |
Soundtrack for the day: [Link: www.npr.org...]
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 1:51:26pm |
And from Padraic Pearse, "Renunciation"
Naked I saw thee,
O beauty of beauty,
And I blinded my eyes
For fear I should fail.
I heard thy music,
O melody of melody,
And I closed my ears
For fear I should falter.
I tasted thy mouth,
O sweetness of sweetness,
And I hardened my heart
For fear of my slaying.
I blinded my eyes,
And I closed my ears,
I hardened my heart
And I smothered my desire.
I turned my back
On the vision I had shaped,
And to this road before me
I turned my face.
I have turned my face
To this road before me,
To the deed that I see
And the death I shall die.
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 1:51:47pm |
Here he is in a trio with Jaco Pastorius, when both of their careers were young.
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 1:55:14pm |
re: #11 LudwigVanQuixote
That's a great story. I'd say it's as much a paean to fatherhood as it is an indictment of consumerism. Why not save that, and repost it come Father's Day?
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Mar 17, 2010 1:56:09pm |
Red hot!
Shades of Sergio Mendes and Brasil 66.
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 1:56:13pm |
re: #9 HoosierHoops
6 knobs and apparently a built in Keyboard.. There may be a flip up flat screen available in that model...USB inputs and stereo out..
/
/...and a latte frother.
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Donna Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 1:56:44pm |
re: #2 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Man, I just realized how much time passed. I zoned out for a good 30-45 minutes earlier.
Its all that green beer!
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reine.de.tout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 1:57:53pm |
re: #11 LudwigVanQuixote
What a very special father you have.
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cliffster Wed, Mar 17, 2010 1:58:28pm |
re: #11 LudwigVanQuixote
We are all so busy making a buck and so exhausted from it, that the basics slip away. We assuage our guilt in this by buying our kids stuff as a replacement for being there and being connected. We've replaced playing a game of catch with the old man with getting the boy a wii.
Thanks for writing that, it was nice. But I will say, for the part I quoted - not all of us.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Mar 17, 2010 1:58:32pm |
re: #18 The Sanity Inspector
That's a great story. I'd say it's as much a paean to fatherhood as it is an indictment of consumerism. Why not save that, and repost it come Father's Day?
You are so right, it's both.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Mar 17, 2010 1:58:56pm |
re: #23 cliffster
Thanks for writing that, it was nice. But I will say, for the part I quoted - not all of us.
Of course that's true. But too many of us.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 1:59:06pm |
re: #11 LudwigVanQuixote
I just saw the Dangerous Minds interview about manners in society.
There was a great discussion about parenting and it got me thinking about my dad.
My father is a quiet, soft spoken and kindly intellectual. He speaks forcefully on issues that matter, but he really does look like a sort of Jewish Santa Claus with his big bushy beard and bull neck.
He started teaching me to play chess when I was two.
My parents were rather brilliant when I was little. Bedtime was strict - unless I was playing chess or reading. It made such things a privilege. The biggest privilege of all was my Sunday game of chess with dad. We would not just play, we would talk about all manner of things.
One time, when I was 12, and it was clear that I loved physics and would likely pursue that as a career, I sat down for the Sunday game. I was still about two years from being able to defeat him and he started a conversation about Maxwell's equations.
These are four little equations that contain everything there is to say about classical electromagnetism. They even contain special relativity if you know how to look. He went right into the propagation of light. It was the sort of discussion that a college freshman or even sophomore would dream his professor giving over so thoroughly. I've actually never heard a physics lecture that was equal to it in terms of the amount of directed insights and clarity of argument.
A few days later, dad sent me into his den - this is his study with all of his law books and a large portion of his personal library - to go fetch him something. On the corner of his desk were several of his old physics textbooks. Under them were notes - recent notes in his hand about Maxwell's equations and an outline for the talk he gave me. I know now that it must have taken him about two weeks to prepare the talk he did. Probably more since he hadn't looked at that stuff since college.
And that is really the point. My old man spent two weeks preparing for a two hour chat to teach his boy something.
That chess game was worth more to me than anything he ever bought me. So was every time we played catch with our beat up baseball mitts.
My reflection on that, in the context of the interview, is that people are as messed up as they are because we parent by absenteeism and proxy. We let the Television and the internet guide out kids. What bastions of manners, education and civility are those?
We are all so busy making a buck and so exhausted from it, that the basics slip away. We assuage our guilt in this by buying our kids stuff as a replacement for being there and being connected. We've replaced playing a game of catch with the old man with getting the boy a wii.
It is a losing bargain.
Utterly true. And I would call that post conservative in the best way possible; Explaining the good that has been somewhat lost, and why it's worth it to keep it from disappearing .
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cliffster Wed, Mar 17, 2010 1:59:24pm |
re: #18 The Sanity Inspector
That's a great story. I'd say it's as much a paean to fatherhood as it is an indictment of consumerism. Why not save that, and repost it come Father's Day?
I'm printing it out right now.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Mar 17, 2010 1:59:36pm |
re: #22 reine.de.tout
What a very special father you have.
Yeah he really is the best. Not to put anyone else's dad down, but I am happily biased.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 1:59:53pm |
Things that make you go "Oh dear God!"
A college classmate, a teacher, writes about her middle-schoolers: "They are fierce defenders of the environment, doing everything from turning off every light to using reusable water bottles to lecturing their parents for taking long showers."
Well, happy days!
I don't have kidz (lucky me! lucky kidz!), but if I did and they tried telling me how long my showers should be, the next thing they'd be trying would be life in an orphanage.
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Digital Display Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:00:13pm |
re: #11 LudwigVanQuixote
Wonderful story Ludwig..
Your Dad taught you to play chess at 2 years old?
Dang we gotta talk..I think I know every published version of the Ray Lopez offense..I play french pretty good
Chess always came natural to me..
I think I memorized Fishers my 20 greatest game when I was a teen...
We need to play sometime...
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Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:00:18pm |
Glenn Beck gets a call from the Psychic Hotline tipping him off to assasination attempts....
Glenn Beck: I had to wear a bullet proof vest last night
Then he talks crazy about god, fruit, and tyrants.
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Kragar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:00:37pm |
re: #21 Dragon_Lady
Its all that green beer!
Nope, just tired. Spent 2 hours on a concall and after I hung up, I was looking at my screen. I swore only a minute or two had passed, but when I actually looked at the clock, it was 45 minutes later.
And I wouldn't drink green beer if you paid me.
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:02:50pm |
re: #31 Killgore Trout
Glenn Beck gets a call from the Psychic Hotline tipping him off to assasination attempts...
Glenn Beck: I had to wear a bullet proof vest last night[Video]Then he talks crazy about god, fruit, and tyrants.
I just installed a system to shoot down those pesky, invisible black helicopters.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:03:34pm |
re: #31 Killgore Trout
Glenn Beck gets a call from the Psychic Hotline tipping him off to assasination attempts...
Glenn Beck: I had to wear a bullet proof vest last night[Video]Then he talks crazy about god, fruit, and tyrants.
He doesn't need a helmet, though. His skull is already so thick and dense it would stop a .50 AP round.
/
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Donna Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:03:53pm |
re: #11 LudwigVanQuixote
I just saw the Dangerous Minds interview about manners in society.
There was a great discussion about parenting and it got me thinking about my dad.
My father is a quiet, soft spoken and kindly intellectual. He speaks forcefully on issues that matter, but he really does look like a sort of Jewish Santa Claus with his big bushy beard and bull neck.
He started teaching me to play chess when I was two.
My parents were rather brilliant when I was little. Bedtime was strict - unless I was playing chess or reading. It made such things a privilege. The biggest privilege of all was my Sunday game of chess with dad. We would not just play, we would talk about all manner of things.
One time, when I was 12, and it was clear that I loved physics and would likely pursue that as a career, I sat down for the Sunday game. I was still about two years from being able to defeat him and he started a conversation about Maxwell's equations.
These are four little equations that contain everything there is to say about classical electromagnetism. They even contain special relativity if you know how to look. He went right into the propagation of light. It was the sort of discussion that a college freshman or even sophomore would dream his professor giving over so thoroughly. I've actually never heard a physics lecture that was equal to it in terms of the amount of directed insights and clarity of argument.
A few days later, dad sent me into his den - this is his study with all of his law books and a large portion of his personal library - to go fetch him something. On the corner of his desk were several of his old physics textbooks. Under them were notes - recent notes in his hand about Maxwell's equations and an outline for the talk he gave me. I know now that it must have taken him about two weeks to prepare the talk he did. Probably more since he hadn't looked at that stuff since college.
And that is really the point. My old man spent two weeks preparing for a two hour chat to teach his boy something.
That chess game was worth more to me than anything he ever bought me. So was every time we played catch with our beat up baseball mitts.
My reflection on that, in the context of the interview, is that people are as messed up as they are because we parent by absenteeism and proxy. We let the Television and the internet guide out kids. What bastions of manners, education and civility are those?
We are all so busy making a buck and so exhausted from it, that the basics slip away. We assuage our guilt in this by buying our kids stuff as a replacement for being there and being connected. We've replaced playing a game of catch with the old man with getting the boy a wii.
It is a losing bargain.
Your Dad sounds a lot like mine, unfortunately my Dad was away a lot when I was a kid. My family lived in a house in the burbs when my Dad worked in the Aerospace industry in El Centro so we only got to see him on the weekends. Smartest man I know next to RWC. Mom pretty much raised us kids alone. I was 12 when Dad got a job closer to home and I really had a chance to get close to him, we are really still a close knit family. Family's today are missing out on good quality time.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:04:24pm |
re: #29 Cato the Elder
Just so you know, my story was in no way meant as a counterpoint to Ludwig's. Though I suppose it could be taken that way.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:04:25pm |
re: #34 Varek Raith
I just installed a system to shoot down those pesky, invisible black helicopters.
How many Heavy Double Laser Batteries did you install?
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lgffan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:05:03pm |
I saw Metheny, Mays and their drummer and bass player at the Amazing Grace Coffeehouse in Evanston IL back about 37 years ago - I was 16 or 17. Sitting in front of Mays' parents. Sat through two shows. One of the most incredible shows I have ever been to. That guy was a smoking guitarist then and is still one to this very day.
Thanks Charles!
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:05:26pm |
re: #11 LudwigVanQuixote
Very nice... it must be wonderful to have a father at all, especially one like that.
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:05:26pm |
re: #38 Dark_Falcon
How many Heavy Double Laser Batteries did you install?
50... At any point 10 can blast a target at the same time. Next up, sat based anti-chopper lasers.
MUHAHAHA
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Kragar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:05:34pm |
re: #29 Cato the Elder
Things that make you go "Oh dear God!"
A college classmate, a teacher, writes about her middle-schoolers: "They are fierce defenders of the environment, doing everything from turning off every light to using reusable water bottles to lecturing their parents for taking long showers."
Well, happy days!
I don't have kidz (lucky me! lucky kidz!), but if I did and they tried telling me how long my showers should be, the next thing they'd be trying would be life in an orphanage.
Dad, can I borrow the car?
Sorry, bad for the evironment. Oh yeah, I donated all your clothes to the recycling center. Here is your burlap smock.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:06:02pm |
re: #37 Cato the Elder
Just so you know, my story was in no way meant as a counterpoint to Ludwig's. Though I suppose it could be taken that way.
In a sad way, it can indeed. In the sense of the exchange of the familial and personal for the official and political. It's not a good exchange.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:07:04pm |
re: #41 Varek Raith
50... At any point 10 can blast a target at the same time. Next up, sat based anti-chopper lasers.
MUHAHAHA
Why bother? Are you running behind on TIE Interceptor production?
/
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:07:04pm |
re: #11 LudwigVanQuixote
As someone who's living currently depends on parents buying things to make up for deficiencies in time and attention, I couldn't agree with you more.
None of what I do is a substitute for an involved parent.
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Kragar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:07:19pm |
re: #41 Varek Raith
50... At any point 10 can blast a target at the same time. Next up, sat based anti-chopper lasers.
MUHAHAHA
I prefer the HK drones myself.
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:07:26pm |
re: #31 Killgore Trout
Glenn Beck gets a call from the Psychic Hotline tipping him off to assasination attempts...
Glenn Beck: I had to wear a bullet proof vest last night[Video]
Then he talks crazy about god, fruit, and tyrants.
Epic Drama Queen
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:07:36pm |
re: #44 Dark_Falcon
Why bother? Are you running behind on TIE Interceptor production?
/
Nope, just paranoid!
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:07:45pm |
re: #29 Cato the Elder
Things that make you go "Oh dear God!"
A college classmate, a teacher, writes about her middle-schoolers: "They are fierce defenders of the environment, doing everything from turning off every light to using reusable water bottles to lecturing their parents for taking long showers."
Well, happy days!
I don't have kidz (lucky me! lucky kidz!), but if I did and they tried telling me how long my showers should be, the next thing they'd be trying would be life in an orphanage.
Which I trust doesn't mean that you'd do away with yourself. 8O
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Donna Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:07:51pm |
re: #32 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Nope, just tired. Spent 2 hours on a concall and after I hung up, I was looking at my screen. I swore only a minute or two had passed, but when I actually looked at the clock, it was 45 minutes later.
And I wouldn't drink green beer if you paid me.
I was just joshin' ya. I don't drink the stuff myself, unless its Leinenkugel Summer Wheat. My supplier ran out so I'm beerless today, beside I'm not sure my tummy would take it as its not quite healed yet. :-P
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blueraven Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:08:32pm |
re: #31 Killgore Trout
Glenn Beck gets a call from the Psychic Hotline tipping him off to assasination attempts...
Glenn Beck: I had to wear a bullet proof vest last night[Video]
Then he talks crazy about god, fruit, and tyrants.
Its very sad if there was actually a threat on his life.
I hope he takes this into consideration when he incites violence against the president and other leaders.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:08:41pm |
re: #11 LudwigVanQuixote
You're very blessed!
As, is your Dad!
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Kragar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:09:21pm |
re: #45 Obdicut
As someone who's living currently depends on parents buying things to make up for deficiencies in time and attention, I couldn't agree with you more.
None of what I do is a substitute for an involved parent.
Just as long as you have enough time to read books.
/hint hint
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Digital Display Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:09:21pm |
Well Lizards..Time to head off the the St. Paddy's party...
Be Well and may God bless you all...
Out
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:10:28pm |
I really like the clip Charles once posted here of Methany playing an instrumental version of Norah Jones' "Don't Know Why." But that might be more that it reminds me of Norah Jones than for the actual music.
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Donna Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:11:13pm |
re: #28 LudwigVanQuixote
Yeah he really is the best. Not to put anyone else's dad down, but I am happily biased.
As you should be. Your Dad sounds like a one in a million kind of guy. You have been truly blessed.
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:11:16pm |
re: #28 LudwigVanQuixote
Yeah he really is the best. Not to put anyone else's dad down, but I am happily biased.
So do you phone him at least?
*just kidding*
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:11:32pm |
re: #30 HoosierHoops
Wonderful story Ludwig..
Your Dad taught you to play chess at 2 years old?
Dang we gotta talk..I think I know every published version of the Ray Lopez offense..I play french pretty good
Chess always came natural to me..
I think I memorized Fishers my 20 greatest game when I was a teen...
We need to play sometime...
Lol it was by studying Fischer and Ray Lopez very diligently that I was finally able to beat him for the first time.
Dad is a Capablanca fan.
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Jeff In Ohio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:12:21pm |
re: #15 The Sanity Inspector
Here he is in a trio with Jaco Pastorius, when both of their careers were young.
[Video]
I met Jaco once in the early 80's. They were loading in at a club we were hanging out in. Funny guy, totally wasted. Had the laughs going bad. I remembering asking him for whatever he had and he just started laughing and laughing and laughing, then fell down. Funny as shit. And then he killed that night. Wow!
Didn't Pat play with Return to Forever?? Can't remember, guess I should google. There was a time in the late 70's and early 80's when I had a mad hankering fro all things punk, reggae and fusion. Looking back it seems weird to lurch from Fear to Black Uhuru to Weather Report. Good shit all around.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:12:24pm |
re: #51 blueraven
Its very sad if there was actually a threat on his life.
I hope he takes this into consideration when he incites violence against the president and other leaders.
I'm sure he gets his share of death threats and stalkers. Many of them are probably from fans. He does cater to a lunatic audience so there's bound to be some problems.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:13:16pm |
re: #57 Spare O'Lake
So do you phone him at least?
*just kidding*
Yes, of course.
Though Dad has some sort of perverse radar that allows him to pick up the phone and call me at time when I am ermmm busy....
It's actually become a bit of a joke.
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:13:37pm |
re: #53 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Heh. I did finish it, actually. I'm pretty slammed at work and don't have time to go into it at the moment, but I liked it a lot.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:14:12pm |
re: #52 Floral Giraffe
You're very blessed!
As, is your Dad!
Awww, you are going to make me tear up.
But yeah I am blessed. I hope he sees me as such.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:15:31pm |
re: #58 LudwigVanQuixote
Lol it was by studying Fischer and Ray Lopez very diligently that I was finally able to beat him for the first time.
Dad is a Capablanca fan.
Reminds me of playing pool with my best friend. He beats me the great majority of the time. The first time I actually won without him having made a mistake was when he had only the 8 ball left to put in. I used my shot to position the cue ball in such a way as he could not hit the 8 ball without hitting one of my balls first. He still beats me most of the time, but I was happy to have figured that play out.
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Kragar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:16:13pm |
re: #62 Obdicut
Heh. I did finish it, actually. I'm pretty slammed at work and don't have time to go into it at the moment, but I liked it a lot.
Cool, I'll bug you about it later then.
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Daniel Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:17:25pm |
re: #11 LudwigVanQuixote
Ludwig, I think that is your finest post ever, certainly on a "non scientific" beautifully human subject. Fatherhood.
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cliffster Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:18:30pm |
re: #63 LudwigVanQuixote
Awww, you are going to make me tear up.
But yeah I am blessed. I hope he sees me as such.
Tear up, LVQ - there's no harm in it at all. Not every man has that sort of father, trust me.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:19:44pm |
re: #36 Dragon_Lady
Your Dad sounds a lot like mine, unfortunately my Dad was away a lot when I was a kid. My family lived in a house in the burbs when my Dad worked in the Aerospace industry in El Centro so we only got to see him on the weekends. Smartest man I know next to RWC. Mom pretty much raised us kids alone. I was 12 when Dad got a job closer to home and I really had a chance to get close to him, we are really still a close knit family. Family's today are missing out on good quality time.
Well said.
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:19:54pm |
re: #59 Jeff In Ohio
I met Jaco once in the early 80's. They were loading in at a club we were hanging out in. Funny guy, totally wasted. Had the laughs going bad. I remembering asking him for whatever he had and he just started laughing and laughing and laughing, then fell down. Funny as shit. And then he killed that night. Wow!
Didn't Pat play with Return to Forever?? Can't remember, guess I should google. There was a time in the late 70's and early 80's when I had a mad hankering fro all things punk, reggae and fusion. Looking back it seems weird to lurch from Fear to Black Uhuru to Weather Report. Good shit all around.
There's an interesting biography of Jaco available. I read it years ago. Tragic waste of talent... There's also a trio of hard to find cds of him with hotshot gypsy guitarist Bireli Lagrene. Live in Italy, Heavy 'n' Jazz, and Stuttgart Aria. Maybe they're not hard to find anymore, but I had to order them from Germany.
Jaco and Charles are both listed in the credits for a jazz album I've seen on YouTube. Wonder if they ever strangled strings together live in the studio?
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:21:22pm |
Senior Republicans in Kentucky and Washington are deeply concerned about Senate candidate Trey Grayson’s campaign as he struggles to narrow the gap against GOP primary rival Rand Paul.
Two months before the election, the libertarian-leaning Paul, son of the Texas congressman and quixotic presidential contender, has tapped into anti-Washington grass-roots fervor on the right and staked out an advantage over Grayson, Kentucky’s secretary of state and establishment favorite.
There have been few polls in the race, but an automated survey earlier this month showed Paul leading by double-digits. Even Grayson backers acknowledge that their candidate is lagging, if not as badly as the public polls indicate.
A win by Paul, a Bowling Green ophthalmologist, would represent the first true electoral success of the tea party movement. Equally important, it would embarrass Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, whose political organization is running Grayson’s campaign, thrust onto the national stage a Republican with foreign policy views out of the conservative mainstream and, strategists in both parties believe, imperil the GOP’s hold on the seat now held by retiring Sen. Jim Bunning.
Recognizing the threat, a well-connected former aide to Vice President Dick Cheney convened a conference call last week between Grayson and a group of leading national security conservatives to sound the alarm about Paul.
“On foreign policy, [Global War On Terror], Gitmo, Afghanistan, Rand Paul is NOT one of us,” wrote Cesar Conda in an e-mail to figures such as Liz Cheney, William Kristol, Robert Kagan, Dan Senor and Marc Thiessen.
Ugh.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:22:23pm |
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:23:17pm |
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:23:46pm |
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cliffster Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:26:29pm |
Hey folks, gotta run. There's way too little green liquid in my belly; I aim to fix that. Hope everyone enjoys their evening.
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simoom Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:27:03pm |
Catholic pushback against the Bishops:
(AP) Catholic nuns urge passage of Obama's health bill
Catholic nuns are urging Congress to pass President Barack Obama's health care plan, in an unusual public break with bishops who say it would subsidize abortion.Some 60 leaders of religious orders representing 59,000 Catholic nuns Wednesday sent lawmakers a letter urging them to pass the Senate health care bill. It contains restrictions on abortion funding that the bishops say don't go far enough.
(CNN) Nuns break with bishops over health care bill
"We write to urge you to cast a life-affirming 'yes' vote when the Senate health care bill (H.R. 3590) comes to the floor of the House for a vote as early as this week," a group of nuns wrote in a letter to members of Congress released Wednesday by NETWORK, progressive Catholic advocacy organization.NETWORK said the 55 signatories represent tens of thousands of Catholic nuns in the United States.
The letter argues that the legislation "will make crucial investments in community health centers that largely serve poor women and children."
"And despite false claims to the contrary, the Senate bill will not provide taxpayer funding for elective abortions," the letter reads. "It will uphold longstanding conscience protections and it will make historic new investments – $250 million – in support of pregnant women. This is the REAL pro-life stance, and we as Catholics are all for it."
The nuns are siding with the Catholic Health Association, a group representing Catholic hospitals, which offered its support for reform earlier this week.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:28:42pm |
re: #76 simoom
Catholic pushback against the Bishops:
Nunz haz alwayz been trubblemakerz. Just ask Luther.
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ArchangelMichael Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:31:04pm |
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:31:37pm |
Sorry to post so much, making people skim, but this is pretty big for the HCR vote.
Rep Dale Kildee of Michigan, a key pro-life Dem who was thought to be part of the Stupak bloc, released a statement today confirming that he will vote for the Senate bill.
But what’s really got Democrats psyched today is the language he used — his strong endorsement, in religious terms, of the Senate bill, which Dems think will prove persuasive to what remains of the Stupak bloc:
"I am convinced that the Senate language maintains the Hyde Amendment, which states that no federal money can be used for abortion. The Senate bill includes a “conscience clause” and allows states to ban plans that include abortion. I also disagree with the argument that the Senate bill would lead to abortions being performed at community health centers. Under existing law (42 C.F.R. § 50.301), community health centers are prohibited from performing abortions.
We must not lose sight of what is at stake here — the lives of 31 million American children, adults, and seniors — who don’t have health insurance. There is nothing more pro-life than protecting the lives of 31 million Americans...."
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:35:05pm |
Sounds like Stupak's Stoopidz are in trubble.
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torrentprime Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:36:01pm |
re: #79 Stanley Sea
Sorry to post so much, making people skim, but this is pretty big for the HCR vote.
Saw that on my rss feed a bit ago. The poster there claimed it was not a big "get", as Kildee said once previously he didn't belong on Stupak's list of of blockers, but I agree the language is they key here. We're down to a handful of votes needed; if a few of the pro-lifers can take cover behind this language, we might be that much closer to wrapping this thing up.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:36:23pm |
re: #11 LudwigVanQuixote
We've replaced playing a game of catch with the old man with getting the boy a wii.
It is a losing bargain.
Man, I could not disagree more with this little sentiment. First of all, the Wii is DESIGNED for family play. The target demo is families interacting with their kids, that's why the machine is four-players. Senior centers buy them by the hundreds because they're great systems for all ages.
I didn't play catch with my parents. I played video games with my parents. Some of my earliest memories were of my dad holding me up to reach the stick on a Vanguard cabinet at the Gold Mine Arcade in Sea-Tac. I played Space Invaders and Air-Sea Battle with my mother on the Atari 2600, we discovered an incredibly rare I, Robot machine at a hole-in-the-wall arcade while adventuring for new arcades, I played head to head in pizza parlors with my brother and my parents on Atari Football. The black-and-white cocktail one, with the giant trackball that pinched your fingers. These are the awesome memories from my childhood, and they're every bit as valid as the wholesome cartoon mom and apple pie thing that gets peddled as the "real" way to spend time with your kids.
I fucking hate baseball. Hated playing it, don't like watching it. Not coordinated to play catch or hit balls with a stick. I dislike intensely this demonization of video games, like they're somehow lesser way of spending quality time with your family, that the only wholesome activity is tossing a ball around.
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celticdragon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:37:14pm |
A little afternoon music. Battlestar Galactica plus The Beastie Boys equals internet win:
Best frakking music video I have seen in years :)
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:39:22pm |
re: #29 Cato the Elder
Things that make you go "Oh dear God!"
A college classmate, a teacher, writes about her middle-schoolers: "They are fierce defenders of the environment, doing everything from turning off every light to using reusable water bottles to lecturing their parents for taking long showers."
Well, happy days!
I don't have kidz (lucky me! lucky kidz!), but if I did and they tried telling me how long my showers should be, the next thing they'd be trying would be life in an orphanage.
Not to be a curmudgeon at you here Cato, bt the kids are correct. The average American spends a really long time in the shower. I love a long shower as much as anyone, but if one sees the shower as a means to get clean and not a personal recreational spa activity, the amount of hot water used goes way down (and heating that water produces emissions). And I am not talking anything Spartan here. I mean you can get perfectly clean in less than ten minutes. You need not take twenty.
It is a simple fix that we could all make in our lifestyles and if everyone did it, it would have a dramatic effect for the positive.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:40:09pm |
re: #83 celticdragon
A little afternoon music. Battlestar Galactica plus The Beastie Boys equals internet win:
[Video]Best frakking music video I have seen in years :)
i can't even watch it yet (at work still) and updinged it on principle anyway. how can beastie boys + BG not be teh awesome?
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:40:25pm |
re: #82 WindUpBird
I played Frisbee with my dad, not baseball.
But then none of us, not me, not you, not our parents, are Real Americans. You can tell by the things we crack wise about.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:41:20pm |
re: #82 WindUpBird
Man, I could not disagree more with this little sentiment. First of all, the Wii is DESIGNED for family play. The target demo is families interacting with their kids, that's why the machine is four-players. Senior centers buy them by the hundreds because they're great systems for all ages.
I didn't play catch with my parents. I played video games with my parents. Some of my earliest memories were of my dad holding me up to reach the stick on a Vanguard cabinet at the Gold Mine Arcade in Sea-Tac. I played Space Invaders and Air-Sea Battle with my mother on the Atari 2600, we discovered an incredibly rare I, Robot machine at a hole-in-the-wall arcade while adventuring for new arcades, I played head to head in pizza parlors with my brother and my parents on Atari Football. The black-and-white cocktail one, with the giant trackball that pinched your fingers. These are the awesome memories from my childhood, and they're every bit as valid as the wholesome cartoon mom and apple pie thing that gets peddled as the "real" way to spend time with your kids.
I fucking hate baseball. Hated playing it, don't like watching it. Not coordinated to play catch or hit balls with a stick. I dislike intensely this demonization of video games, like they're somehow lesser way of spending quality time with your family, that the only wholesome activity is tossing a ball around.
Woah - clarification. I was not indicting wii per se. I was indicting wii as a substitute for parenting. Your story is different because your parents were not disconnected. And besides, we have geeked out enough on things like Dragon Age (BTW the expansion rocks!) for you to know I am not opposed to gaming.
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:42:01pm |
re: #84 LudwigVanQuixote
Not to be a curmudgeon at you here Cato, bt the kids are correct. The average American spends a really long time in the shower. I love a long shower as much as anyone, but if one sees the shower as a means to get clean and not a personal recreational spa activity, the amount of hot water used goes way down (and heating that water produces emissions). And I am not talking anything Spartan here. I mean you can get perfectly clean in less than ten minutes. You need not take twenty.
It is a simple fix that we could all make in our lifestyles and if everyone did it, it would have a dramatic effect for the positive.
I don't think you should date my daughter after all. Do not EVER interfere with her showers.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:42:12pm |
re: #86 Cato the Elder
I played Frisbee with my dad, not baseball.
But then none of us, not me, not you, not our parents, are Real Americans. You can tell by the things we crack wise about.
Heehee, it's so true. My mother has one of the darkest senses of humor of anyone I know.
(And I totally dug frisbee! Okay, so sometimes it would be a matter of my brother snd I running around trying to hit each other with the frisbee pretending we were characters from Tron, but hey)
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:43:36pm |
One more bit of Irish humor for the day...
The French President is sitting in his office when his telephone rings.
'Hallo, Mr. Sarkozy!' a heavily accented voice said. 'This is Paddy
down at the Harp Pub in County Clare , Ireland .. I am ringing to
inform you that we are officially declaring war on you. We voted to
reject the Lisbon treaty.'
'Well, Paddy,' Sarkozy replied, 'This is indeed important news. How big
is your army?'
'Right now,' says Paddy, after a moment's calculation, 'there is
myself, me Cousin Sean, me next door neighbor Seamus, and the entire
darts team from the pub. That makes eleven.'
Sarkozy paused. 'I must tell you, Paddy, that I have 100,000 men in my
army waiting to move on my command.'
'Begorra!' says Paddy. 'I'll have to ring you back.'
Sure enough, the next day, Paddy calls again. 'Mr. Sarkozy, the war is
still on. We have managed to get us some infantry equipment!'
'And what equipment would that be paddy?' Sarkozy asks.
'Well, we have two combines, a bulldozer, and Murphy's farm tractor...'
Sarkozy sighs amused. 'I must tell you, Paddy, that I have 6,000 tanks
and 5,000 armoured personnel carriers. Also,
I have increased my army to 150,000 since we last spoke.'
'Saints preserve us!' says Paddy. I'll have to get back to you.'
Sure enough, Paddy rings again the next day. 'Mr. Sarkozy, the war is
still on! We have managed to get ourselves airborne! We have modified
Jackie McLaughlin's ultra-light with a couple of shotguns in the
cockpit, and four boys from the Shamrock Bar have joined us as well!'
Sarkozy was silent for a minute and then cleared his throat. 'I must
tell you, Paddy, that I have 100 bombers and 200 fighter planes. My
military bases are surrounded by laser-guided, surface-to-air missile
sites. And since we last spoke, I have increased my army to 200,000.'
'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!' says Paddy, 'I will have to ring you back.'
Sure enough, Paddy calls again the next day. 'Top o' the mornin', Mr.
Sarkozy. I am sorry to inform you that we have had to call off the war.'
'Really? I am sorry to hear that,' says Sarkozy. 'Why the sudden change
of heart?'
'Well,' says Paddy, 'we had a long chat over a few pints of Guinness
and packets of crisps, and we decided there is no fookin' way we can
feed 200,000 prisoners.'
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freetoken Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:43:48pm |
A: 50 years in the future, like always.
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:45:09pm |
re: #61 LudwigVanQuixote
Yes, of course.
Though Dad has some sort of perverse radar that allows him to pick up the phone and call me at time when I am ermmm busy...
It's actually become a bit of a joke.
How in the world did he manage to teach you how to play chess at age 2? He must have been a very good teacher.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:46:02pm |
re: #87 LudwigVanQuixote
Woah - clarification. I was not indicting wii per se. I was indicting wii as a substitute for parenting. Your story is different because your parents were not disconnected. And besides, we have geeked out enough on things like Dragon Age (BTW the expansion rocks!) for you to know I am not opposed to gaming.
Oh, I know, the substitute for parenting thing is real, some parents used to just park their kids in front of the TV in the 70's. I was by nature sort of a solitary kid who wanted to hid ein his room and draw all the time, but my parents were definitely connected. I'm not so much going off on you as I am going off on the cosmos ;-)
also Dragon Age :D :D I have it, and I need time to play it. Right now the schedule is too full for my normal wacky late night binge until sunrise gaming sessions.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:46:50pm |
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:47:11pm |
re: #84 LudwigVanQuixote
Not to be a curmudgeon at you here Cato, bt the kids are correct. The average American spends a really long time in the shower. I love a long shower as much as anyone, but if one sees the shower as a means to get clean and not a personal recreational spa activity, the amount of hot water used goes way down (and heating that water produces emissions). And I am not talking anything Spartan here. I mean you can get perfectly clean in less than ten minutes. You need not take twenty.
It is a simple fix that we could all make in our lifestyles and if everyone did it, it would have a dramatic effect for the positive.
Being the curmudgeon is my job around here. You stick to hectoring people! ;^)
I agree with everything you say as long as it's voluntary and no smart-mouthed ecofascist kid is standing there with a stopwatch.
Unfortunately (and I know there will be howls of protest over the very notion again, but I have to say this), I see the day coming - and not far off - when ordinances will be passed about things like this and kidz will be encouraged to turn in their parents for taking a six-minute shower or not replacing their old high-capacity toilet tanks with Al-Gore-approved ones. It'll be just like the gorram Stasi, only we bien-pensant types will agree with the goals, so it'll all be ducky.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:47:31pm |
re: #93 WindUpBird
Oh, I know, the substitute for parenting thing is real, some parents used to just park their kids in front of the TV in the 70's. I was by nature sort of a solitary kid who wanted to hid ein his room and draw all the time, but my parents were definitely connected. I'm not so much going off on you as I am going off on the cosmos ;-)
also Dragon Age :D :D I have it, and I need time to play it. Right now the schedule is too full for my normal wacky late night binge until sunrise gaming sessions.
i just started it over the weekend. it's all that and a plate of cookies...
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:47:35pm |
re: #93 WindUpBird
Oh, I know, the substitute for parenting thing is real, some parents used to just park their kids in front of the TV in the 70's. I was by nature sort of a solitary kid who wanted to hid ein his room and draw all the time, but my parents were definitely connected. I'm not so much going off on you as I am going off on the cosmos ;-)
also Dragon Age :D :D I have it, and I need time to play it. Right now the schedule is too full for my normal wacky late night binge until sunrise gaming sessions.
And my dad did teach me to play chess! But he sucked at it, and so did I, until I found a real chess teacher in jr. high ^_^
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MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:48:09pm |
Some Guiness was spilt on the barroom floor
When the pub was shut for the night
Out of his hole crept a wee brown mouse
And stood in the pale moonlight
He lapped up the frothy brew from the floor
Then back on his haunches he sat
And all the night you could hear him roar
"Bring on the fookin' cat!"
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torrentprime Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:48:14pm |
re: #91 freetoken
A: 50 years in the future, like always.
Nah, I'm sure fossil fuels will carry us through.
/
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:48:29pm |
re: #96 Aceofwhat?
i just started it over the weekend. it's all that and a plate of cookies...
YOU'RE KILLING ME HERE
Oh and I have Red Alert 3, and I have no time for that one either. ARRRGH
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Decatur Deb Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:50:04pm |
More Yeats, to the point:
Politics
HOW can I, that girl standing there,
My attention fix
On Roman or on Russian
Or on Spanish politics?
Yet here's a travelled man that knows
What he talks about,
And there's a politician
That has read and thought,
And maybe what they say is true
Of war and war's alarms,
But O that I were young again
And held her in my arms!
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:50:15pm |
re: #98 MandyManners
You force me to upding you every time you repeat that. It's just not fair.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:50:24pm |
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:51:10pm |
re: #92 Spare O'Lake
How in the world did he manage to teach you how to play chess at age 2? He must have been a very
good teacherpatient man.
Yes, I do believe that was Ludwig's point, and that such patience pays great dividends.
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MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:51:42pm |
Some Guiness was spilt on the barroom floor
When the pub was shut for the night
Out of his hole crept a wee brown mouse
And stood in the pale moonlight
He lapped up the frothy brew from the floor
Then back on his haunches he sat
And all the night you could hear him roar
"Bring on the fookin' cat!"
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MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:51:55pm |
Some Guiness was spilt on the barroom floor
When the pub was shut for the night
Out of his hole crept a wee brown mouse
And stood in the pale moonlight
He lapped up the frothy brew from the floor
Then back on his haunches he sat
And all the night you could hear him roar
"Bring on the fookin' cat!"
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:52:05pm |
re: #92 Spare O'Lake
How in the world did he manage to teach you how to play chess at age 2? He must have been a very good teacher.
Well he is an amazing teacher and I did take to it very readily. I promise that my game at two or three was nothing impressive :).
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MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:52:06pm |
Some Guiness was spilt on the barroom floor
When the pub was shut for the night
Out of his hole crept a wee brown mouse
And stood in the pale moonlight
He lapped up the frothy brew from the floor
Then back on his haunches he sat
And all the night you could hear him roar
"Bring on the fookin' cat!"
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MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:52:20pm |
Some Guiness was spilt on the barroom floor
When the pub was shut for the night
Out of his hole crept a wee brown mouse
And stood in the pale moonlight
He lapped up the frothy brew from the floor
Then back on his haunches he sat
And all the night you could hear him roar
"Bring on the fookin' cat!"
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MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:52:30pm |
Some Guiness was spilt on the barroom floor
When the pub was shut for the night
Out of his hole crept a wee brown mouse
And stood in the pale moonlight
He lapped up the frothy brew from the floor
Then back on his haunches he sat
And all the night you could hear him roar
"Bring on the fookin' cat!"
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:53:13pm |
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:53:19pm |
re: #91 freetoken
A: 50 years in the future, like always.
Recently I was looking through my stack of Newsweeks and I was reading this article...
I guess what amazes me is that 3.5 billion dollars have gone into this project and yet the article has scientist who make comments like...
"They're snake-oil salesmen," says Thomas Cochran, senior scientist with the Natural Resources Defense Council, which has tracked the NIF project from its inception in 1997.
That's a lot of snake oil. Even the reporter claims he's "like to believe it"... but.
Opinions?
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:53:28pm |
US may be seeking Israel 'regime change'
WASHINGTON — The Obama administration's row with Israel over settlements has prompted some analysts to wonder whether it seeks "regime change," a new government that can make peace with the Palestinians.
However, the analysts doubt that President Barack Obama's administration, which has made Arab-Israeli peace a national security priority, will achieve anything if it has indeed adopted such a strategy.
In unusually harsh words, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Friday that his right-wing government's plans to build new settler homes in east Jerusalem sent a "deeply negative signal" about Israel's ties to its top ally.
"Is this about regime change, or is it about (Israeli) behavior modification?" asked Aaron David Miller, a Middle East peace negotiator in past Republican and Democratic administrations.
"Because either way, it's going to be a rocky ride," Miller told AFP.
"If it's the former, then I think we're naive in the extreme in thinking that we will be able to produce and somehow manage that," said Miller, now at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars in Washington.
Miller said Obama and Clinton may be trying to create the impression Netanyahu is "mismanaging the relationship" with Washington in order to shake up Israeli politics.
After all, he said, former president George H.W. Bush and his top diplomat James Baker did much the same thing with then Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Shamir and helped pave the way for Yitzhak Rabin to become prime minister.
"But there are no more Rabins," Miller said.
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freetoken Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:53:36pm |
re: #99 torrentprime
Oil, btw, played with the $83/bbl level today. Technical traders claim that indicates a desire to run up to $90/bbl. If it wasn't for the severely suppressed US appetite (via the recession), I expect oil would be much higher.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:53:40pm |
re: #95 Cato the Elder
Being the curmudgeon is my job around here. You stick to hectoring people! ;^)
I agree with everything you say as long as it's voluntary and no smart-mouthed ecofascist kid is standing there with a stopwatch.
Unfortunately (and I know there will be howls of protest over the very notion again, but I have to say this), I see the day coming - and not far off - when ordinances will be passed about things like this and kidz will be encouraged to turn in their parents for taking a six-minute shower or not replacing their old high-capacity toilet tanks with Al-Gore-approved ones. It'll be just like the gorram Stasi, only we bien-pensant types will agree with the goals, so it'll all be ducky.
If such a day comes it will because of the draconian government doing what it must to preserve society and ration resources after an eco-collapse.
Better to avoid that now yes?
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:53:49pm |
re: #112 MandyManners
HA!
I know some people can't ever get enough updings, but that was ridiculous.
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Kragar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:54:29pm |
re: #83 celticdragon
A slightly different animated video, but its me and my wife's song.
| 120 |
freetoken Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:54:38pm |
re: #114 Walter L. Newton
Physical possibility, and economic desirability, are not the same.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:55:09pm |
re: #88 Alouette
I don't think you should date my daughter after all. Do not EVER interfere with her showers.
Well... for "she who must be obeyed," even science must bend its knee...
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:55:22pm |
re: #115 NJDhockeyfan
Concern trolling. It's just not that interesting anymore. "regime change" was a Bush policy...we've got adults in charge now who don't see other countries as either "all good" or "all bad"...it's time for a little 'grow the fuck up'...
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:55:28pm |
re: #117 LudwigVanQuixote
If such a day comes it will because of the draconian government doing what it must to preserve society and ration resources after an eco-collapse.
Better to avoid that now yes?
As long as it's voluntary, yes.
I would rather the whole planet die of excessive heat and too much freedom than see it sink into fascism of any kind, eco- or otherwise.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:56:27pm |
re: #120 freetoken
Physical possibility, and economic desirability, are not the same.
I was asking more about the physical possibility... the article didn't give that much chance.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:56:56pm |
re: #123 Cato the Elder
As long as it's voluntary, yes.
I would rather the whole planet die of excessive heat and too much freedom than see it sink into fascism of any kind, eco- or otherwise.
Indeed. Rescind the kid's Xbox usage along the same logic and you'll never hear a peep about your shower again. We all have our little luxuries...
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ArchangelMichael Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:57:00pm |
re: #91 freetoken
A: 50 years in the future, like always.
Science's version of:
"When will the remodel be done?"
"Two weeks."
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:57:46pm |
re: #120 freetoken
Physical possibility, and economic desirability, are not the same.
Then...Onward Fission Soldier!
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:59:02pm |
re: #123 Cato the Elder
As long as it's voluntary, yes.
I would rather the whole planet die of excessive heat and too much freedom than see it sink into fascism of any kind, eco- or otherwise.
You don't really mean that, do you? If the government had absolute proof that certain rules, laws, processes what ever, were necessary to save the planet, are you telling me that you would consider it fascist for the government (or the governments of the world) to make laws to stop use from destroying ourselves?
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:00:09pm |
re: #105 goddamnedfrank
Yes, I do believe that was Ludwig's point, and that such patience pays great dividends.
Patience of Job would be required when the two year old stuck the Queen in his mouth!
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:00:21pm |
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:00:25pm |
OT: When you're aiming for the head at a charity event, it really is a rivalry...
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:01:01pm |
re: #115 NJDhockeyfan
Linking to American Free Press, huh?
Why don't you just link to the Weekly World News as well? I hear Timecube.com could also be a great source of news.
Oh yeah, from wiki: "The AFP publishes articles on current world events, 9/11 conspiracy theories.[3] One of their ex-contract reporters, Christopher Bollyn is sometimes cited for his reporting in the 9/11 Truth Movement.[4] It is classified as an active hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center."
LOL.
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Donna Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:01:45pm |
Hey guys I'm gonna logoff, not feeling to good right now. Guess I've over done it. See ya all later, Keep Laughing Lizards!
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lawhawk Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:01:50pm |
re: #116 freetoken
And that higher oil price would in turn sap the economy because people would be further constricting their purchases, driving, transportation and food costs would rise, etc.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:01:57pm |
OK, I knew there was a conservative alternative to Wikipedia.
And I knew there was a conservative alternative to the Bible.
But it was news to me that there's a conservative alternative to YouTube.
I realize that I may sound like an old-fashioned fuddy-duddy, but can someone explain to me why conservatives need a special YouTube?
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:02:17pm |
re: #128 Walter L. Newton
You don't really mean that, do you? If the government had absolute proof that certain rules, laws, processes what ever, were necessary to save the planet, are you telling me that you would consider it fascist for the government (or the governments of the world) to make laws to stop use from destroying ourselves?
Since the entire premise hinges on an unprovable "if", then yes. There is no such proof.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:03:37pm |
re: #135 SanFranciscoZionist
OK, I knew there was a conservative alternative to Wikipedia.
And I knew there was a conservative alternative to the Bible.
But it was news to me that there's a conservative alternative to YouTube.
I realize that I may sound like an old-fashioned fuddy-duddy, but can someone explain to me why conservatives need a special YouTube?
Oh geeze, check out their most viewed. Does Rupert Murdoch own it?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:03:38pm |
re: #132 WindUpBird
Linking to American Free Press, huh?
Why don't you just link to the Weekly World News as well? I hear Timecube.com could also be a great source of news.
Oh yeah, from wiki: "The AFP publishes articles on current world events, 9/11 conspiracy theories.[3] One of their ex-contract reporters, Christopher Bollyn is sometimes cited for his reporting in the 9/11 Truth Movement.[4] It is classified as an active hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center."
LOL.
ahahahahaha whoops: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Too damned many AFP news agencies! Joke's on me XD
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:03:39pm |
Here comes our "spring" snow season. It's about 68 degrees down hill in the Denver area, 50 degrees up here west of Denver at 8200 feet. But starting tomorrow night, we are under a winter storm warning, 5 to 10 inches of snow possible in Denver, that will be much more up here.
Don't you love the "spring" snow season. The only good part is it's usually melted in a day or so.
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torrentprime Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:03:40pm |
re: #132 WindUpBird
Linking to American Free Press, huh?
Why don't you just link to the Weekly World News as well? I hear Timecube.com could also be a great source of news.
Oh yeah, from wiki: "The AFP publishes articles on current world events, 9/11 conspiracy theories.[3] One of their ex-contract reporters, Christopher Bollyn is sometimes cited for his reporting in the 9/11 Truth Movement.[4] It is classified as an active hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center."
LOL.
I love the FOX-y intro to the article: "has prompted some analysts to wonder"
"Many say..."
"Some fear"
"Republican pollsters have suggested that..."
Oh wait - does that one belong in there?
/
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:04:21pm |
re: #135 SanFranciscoZionist
OK, I knew there was a conservative alternative to Wikipedia.
And I knew there was a conservative alternative to the Bible.
But it was news to me that there's a conservative alternative to YouTube.
I realize that I may sound like an old-fashioned fuddy-duddy, but can someone explain to me why conservatives need a special YouTube?
you didn't sound like a fuddy-duddy until you said fuddy-duddy...
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:04:34pm |
re: #135 SanFranciscoZionist
OK, I knew there was a conservative alternative to Wikipedia.
And I knew there was a conservative alternative to the Bible.
But it was news to me that there's a conservative alternative to YouTube.
I realize that I may sound like an old-fashioned fuddy-duddy, but can someone explain to me why conservatives need a special YouTube?
Because it keeps them far away from ZOMGitsCriss?
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:04:35pm |
I don't think seeking regime change in Israel is a great idea, but given that their Lieberman is a racist who used a blackshirted Russian mafia bard in his campaign ads, would a cabinet reshuffle be too much to ask?
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:05:06pm |
re: #135 SanFranciscoZionist
OK, I knew there was a conservative alternative to Wikipedia.
And I knew there was a conservative alternative to the Bible.
But it was news to me that there's a conservative alternative to YouTube.
I realize that I may sound like an old-fashioned fuddy-duddy, but can someone explain to me why conservatives need a special YouTube?
They're special. They have needs. Having their own channel/video site makes them feel more special. And so long as they don't cross-post on Youtube, they can enjoy their little circle-jerk in peace, as far as I'm concerned.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:05:48pm |
re: #132 WindUpBird
Linking to American Free Press, huh?
Why don't you just link to the Weekly World News as well? I hear Timecube.com could also be a great source of news.
Oh yeah, from wiki: "The AFP publishes articles on current world events, 9/11 conspiracy theories.[3] One of their ex-contract reporters, Christopher Bollyn is sometimes cited for his reporting in the 9/11 Truth Movement.[4] It is classified as an active hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center."
LOL.
Since that link came from Google, I suspect that AFP stands for Agence France Presse...
[Link: www.google.com...]
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:06:37pm |
re: #123 Cato the Elder
As long as it's voluntary, yes.
I would rather the whole planet die of excessive heat and too much freedom than see it sink into fascism of any kind, eco- or otherwise.
The point your argument fails to see is the pay me now or pay me later aspect of this.
If we are facing a world with significantly less food to the extent that draconian rationing becomes enforced, you pay much more later to much more serious fascists.
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Kragar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:07:34pm |
re: #135 SanFranciscoZionist
OK, I knew there was a conservative alternative to Wikipedia.
And I knew there was a conservative alternative to the Bible.
But it was news to me that there's a conservative alternative to YouTube.
I realize that I may sound like an old-fashioned fuddy-duddy, but can someone explain to me why conservatives need a special YouTube?
Because the idea that they could naturally regulate the videos and information they receive through basic deduction, logic and their own personal likes does not compute. Must have approved wholesome programming based on what the Elders say is good and wholesome.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:08:05pm |
FYI...Obama interview is on Fox News right now.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:08:09pm |
re: #137 Stanley Sea
Oh geeze, check out their most viewed. Does Rupert Murdoch own it?
I don't know. I just found it, looking for clips on Jesse Owens.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:08:11pm |
re: #140 torrentprime
I love the FOX-y intro to the article: "has prompted some analysts to wonder"
"Many say..."
"Some fear"
"Republican pollsters have suggested that..."
Oh wait - does that one belong in there?
/
The article was from Agence France Presse.
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:08:18pm |
re: #135 SanFranciscoZionist
OK, I knew there was a conservative alternative to Wikipedia.
And I knew there was a conservative alternative to the Bible.
But it was news to me that there's a conservative alternative to YouTube.
I realize that I may sound like an old-fashioned fuddy-duddy, but can someone explain to me why conservatives need a special YouTube?
YouTubes has Teh Kitteh Numa Numa!
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simoom Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:08:55pm |
CNBC with a St. Patty's day spin on the stock market:
Dow Extends Win Streak for Lucky 7th Day
It looks like St. Patrick's day brought the luck o' the Irish to the market: The Dow rose for a lucky seventh straight day as a renewed pledge from the Fed for low rates and a drop in inflation at the producer level helped fuel the market's momentum.
...
The seven-day rally, the Dow's longest streak in over a year, pushed the blue-chip index up 4 percent. All three major indexes — the Dow, S&P 500 and Nasdaq — today logged their highest closing levels since 2008. The VIX, the market's volatility gauge, dropped below 17, the lowest its been since May 2008.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:09:49pm |
re: #151 Walter L. Newton
The article was from Agence France Presse.
Seriously? All of that derision and no one bothered to actually check where the article was from?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:10:03pm |
re: #140 torrentprime
I love the FOX-y intro to the article: "has prompted some analysts to wonder"
"Many say..."
"Some fear"
"Republican pollsters have suggested that..."
Oh wait - does that one belong in there?
/
Yeah. i was wrong about the organization, it's not a kook, it's Agence France-Presse (sp!!) but the article is still garbage. it's a whole lot of nothing meant to gin up sentiment. Not news.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:10:56pm |
re: #154 Aceofwhat?
Seriously? All of that derision and no one bothered to actually check where the article was from?
It's still a shit-article meant to stir up anger and fear that the US is anti-Israel.
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lawhawk Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:11:07pm |
Israel's partner in peace, Fatah, is at it again... they're claiming that Israel's reconstruction of the Hurva is the first step to taking over the Temple Mount:
Abbas Zaki, a member of the Fatah Central Committee, predicted that the violence, which broke out in Jerusalem in the past few days, would escalate “if Israel insisted on pursuing its scheme to rebuild the so-called Temple Mount.”Zaki and several Fatah and PA officials have in recent days claimed that the inauguration of the newly renovated synagogue in the Old City of Jerusalem was part of a conspiracy aimed at destroying the Aksa Mosque.
“The battle for Jerusalem is the battle of all Palestinians and Arabs, regardless of their religion,” Zaki said. “We are facing huge challenges that need to be confronted.”
Hamas also urged Palestinians on Tuesday to step up the protests against Israel’s measures in Jerusalem. The appeal came after the Islamist movement called for a day of “rage” in Jerusalem on Tuesday to protest plans to build new homes in Ramat Shlomo and the inauguration of the old synagogue.
They're also gunning to "rearm" the al Aqsa Martyr's Brigade despite the Oslo accords and security arrangements with Israel to do no such thing.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:11:17pm |
re: #145 darthstar
They're special. They have needs. Having their own channel/video site makes them feel more special. And so long as they don't cross-post on Youtube, they can enjoy their little circle-jerk in peace, as far as I'm concerned.
Doesn't look like much of a site to me.
But tell me - you seem to think they should not be welcome to post at YouTube. If that's so, then I guess their own site is necessary, isn't it? Why is it so very bothersome to you? Just ignore it . . .
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Kragar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:11:31pm |
Dogs originated from Middle East wolves
"Dogs seem to share more genetic similarity with Middle Eastern grey wolves than any other wolf population worldwide," said one of its authors, Robert Wayne, a professor of evolutionary biology at the University of California in Los Angeles.
The researchers sequenced the genetic code from more than 900 dogs from 85 breeds and 200 wild grey wolves, including wolves in North America, Europe, the Middle East and East Asia.
They analysed more than 48,000 single genetic markers, seeking areas of comparison that would enable them to build a canine family tree.
Its trunk, they found, is rooted in the Middle East, which concurs with evidence for the remains of dogs found at sites from 13,000 years ago.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:11:41pm |
re: #154 Aceofwhat?
Seriously? All of that derision and no one bothered to actually check where the article was from?
Attack the news organization if they don't like the article. Typical for some on here.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:12:22pm |
re: #154 Aceofwhat?
Seriously? All of that derision and no one bothered to actually check where the article was from?
Right... one may not agree with the material in the article, but the article was not from some conspiracy laden World Net Daily type of source... Agence France Presse is like part of the 3 largest news agency in the world, after Murdock and Al-Jeerza I believe.
Follow the links...
[Link: www.google.com...]
[Link: www.google.com...]
[Link: www.afp.com...]
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:12:25pm |
re: #154 Aceofwhat?
Seriously? All of that derision and no one bothered to actually check where the article was from?
hahaha I DID check where the article was from, and got it wrong because I confused both AFP the news organization with the blue rectangular logo, and AFP the OTHER news organization with the blue rectangular logo. :D
(In fact, wouldn't be surprised if that was intentional, like some rags like to stick a nice logo on their crazy to give them some legitimacy)
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:13:50pm |
re: #158 reine.de.tout
Doesn't look like much of a site to me.
But tell me - you seem to think they should not be welcome to post at YouTube. If that's so, then I guess their own site is necessary, isn't it? Why is it so very bothersome to you? Just ignore it . . .
I fully intend to ignore it. But the purpose of posting videos is to get the most viewers possible. Having a special site will only bring in like-minded people...which might be their intent. I'm not saying they can't post on Youtube...I just find their need for self-identified sites ridiculous...but hey, it's their money.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:14:02pm |
re: #160 NJDhockeyfan
Attack the news organization if they don't like the article. Typical for some on here.
Can you see where I might have questioned you if it was from American Free Press (and not Agence France-PResse) I mean, look at their wackass site, it's full of truther-birther stuff!
I would HOPE that if I started linking to stuff from wackos American Free Press or Worldnetdaily I'd be attacked for it.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:14:59pm |
re: #147 LudwigVanQuixote
The point your argument fails to see is the pay me now or pay me later aspect of this.
If we are facing a world with significantly less food to the extent that draconian rationing becomes enforced, you pay much more later to much more serious fascists.
Which leaves me unmoved as far as my willingness to tolerate fascists in the present. The present is the only time I have any control over.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:15:16pm |
re: #156 darthstar
It's still a shit-article meant to stir up anger and fear that the US is anti-Israel.
That seems like a valid opinion. Steamrolling a source without knowing the source? Mmm...less compelling.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:15:25pm |
re: #162 WindUpBird
hahaha I DID check where the article was from, and got it wrong because I confused both AFP the news organization with the blue rectangular logo, and AFP the OTHER news organization with the blue rectangular logo. :D
(In fact, wouldn't be surprised if that was intentional, like some rags like to stick a nice logo on their crazy to give them some legitimacy)
I noticed that, the logos are similar. But there is a big difference in the quality of the material.
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freetoken Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:15:47pm |
re: #135 SanFranciscoZionist
The insularity is growing among the "right"; this is just more evidence of that. They're becoming more isolationist not just in US foreign policy.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:15:49pm |
re: #164 WindUpBird
Can you see where I might have questioned you if it was from American Free Press (and not Agence France-PResse) I mean, look at their wackass site, it's full of truther-birther stuff!
I would HOPE that if I started linking to stuff from wackos American Free Press or Worldnetdaily I'd be attacked for it.
You would. But i'd check first;)
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:15:56pm |
Historians criticize proposed Texas social studies curriculum
Historians criticized proposed revisions to the Texas social studies curriculum Tuesday, saying that many of the changes are historically inaccurate and that they would affect textbooks and classrooms far beyond the state's borders.
The changes, which were preliminarily approved last week by the Texas board of education and are expected to be given final approval in May, will reach deeply into Texas history classrooms, defining what textbooks must include and what teachers must cover. The curriculum downplays the role of Thomas Jefferson among the founding fathers, questions the separation of church and state and says that the U.S. government was infiltrated by communists during the Cold War.
Because the Texas textbook market is so large, books assigned to the state's 4.7 million students often rocket to the top of the market, decreasing costs for other school districts and leading them to buy the same materials.
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:16:03pm |
re: #164 WindUpBird
Can you see where I might have questioned you if it was from American Free Press (and not Agence France-PResse) I mean, look at their wackass site, it's full of truther-birther stuff!
I would HOPE that if I started linking to stuff from wackos American Free Press or Worldnetdaily I'd be attacked for it.
The AFP linked on the Google and Yahoo news feeds is more likely to be Agence France Presse, which is a legitimate news agency like Reuters and AP.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:16:16pm |
re: #164 WindUpBird
Can you see where I might have questioned you if it was from American Free Press (and not Agence France-PResse) I mean, look at their wackass site, it's full of truther-birther stuff!
I would HOPE that if I started linking to stuff from wackos American Free Press or Worldnetdaily I'd be attacked for it.
Well, I would hope that if anyone started attacking you, they would have made for certain sure what they were talking about.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:16:37pm |
re: #166 Aceofwhat?
That seems like a valid opinion. Steamrolling a source without knowing the source? Mmm...less compelling.
I could care less about the source...as you have noticed. I just thought the content of the article was bullshit. Still do.
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:16:58pm |
re: #165 Cato the Elder
Nah, actually, any action you take has got to be to affect the future. You can't affect the present. It's already happening.
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freetoken Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:16:59pm |
re: #170 NJDhockeyfan
"Historians"? Who needs any stinkin' "historians"?
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:17:36pm |
re: #173 darthstar
I could care less about the source...as you have noticed. I just thought the content of the article was bullshit. Still do.
Your avatar is so fantastic today that i'm having a really difficult time disagreeing with anything that you say right now. Just being honest...
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:18:13pm |
re: #164 WindUpBird
Can you see where I might have questioned you if it was from American Free Press (and not Agence France-PResse) I mean, look at their wackass site, it's full of truther-birther stuff!
I would HOPE that if I started linking to stuff from wackos American Free Press or Worldnetdaily I'd be attacked for it.
I don't think I've ever seen American Free Press. If you check my history I haven't intentionally posted anything from a kook website either. I try to link to legitimate sites.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:18:43pm |
re: #171 Alouette
The AFP linked on the Google and Yahoo news feeds is more likely to be Agence France Presse, which is a legitimate news agency like Reuters and AP.
I know I know, I realize that now. ;-) But there is partisan stuff in the google feeds! Tends to be tagged as a blog though.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:18:49pm |
re: #171 Alouette
The AFP linked on the Google and Yahoo news feeds is more likely to be Agence France Presse, which is a legitimate news agency like Reuters and AP.
Yep...we're all in agreement that Agence France Presse is a legitimate news agency.
Now, can we all agree that the article was nothing but a bullshit attempt to stir up anger? Nobody's calling for regime change in Israel from the US Administration. This is how Fox news stories are festered (not fostered, festered).
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prairiefire Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:19:22pm |
re: #173 darthstar
My retired DeadHead husband says he knows of the "obscure" song title nic. His words, not mine.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:19:41pm |
re: #178 NJDhockeyfan
I don't think I've ever seen American Free Press. If you check my history I haven't intentionally posted anything from a kook website either. I try to link to legitimate sites.
Fair enough, sorry for jumping down your throat about it.
(that article is still all frosting and no cake, though, it's a whole bunch of speculation and concern trolling ;-) )
| 184 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:20:02pm |
re: #180 darthstar
Yep...we're all in agreement that Agence France Presse is a legitimate news agency.
Now, can we all agree that the article was nothing but a bullshit attempt to stir up anger? Nobody's calling for regime change in Israel from the US Administration. This is how Fox news stories are festered (not fostered, festered).
Absolute agreement! :D
| 185 |
Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:20:14pm |
gah! i quoted WUB's stinking link! somebody please help me report #181!
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:21:18pm |
re: #180 darthstar
Yep...we're all in agreement that Agence France Presse is a legitimate news agency.
Now, can we all agree that the article was nothing but a bullshit attempt to stir up anger? Nobody's calling for regime change in Israel from the US Administration. This is how Fox news stories are festered (not fostered, festered).
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:21:23pm |
re: #182 prairiefire
My retired DeadHead husband says he knows of the "obscure" song title nic. His words, not mine.
Dark Star isn't obscure, it's 14 to 23 minutes of beautiful funky jazzy spacy improvisation. Tell your hubby thank you. ;)
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:22:06pm |
re: #185 Aceofwhat?
gah! i quoted WUB's stinking link! somebody please help me report #181!
Holy shit... my right hand just disappeared... and I didn't even quote the link.
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:22:19pm |
By the by, looks like I will be moving to New York after all. Happily the company I work for wants me to keep working for them in one way or another, so the turmoil will be less than complete, but it's still going to be a hell of a culture shock. San Francisco is a rather different place.
We'll be there for eight years-- at least that's time enough to get into a groove.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:22:48pm |
re: #188 darthstar
Dark Star isn't obscure, it's 14 to 23 minutes of beautiful funky jazzy spacy improvisation. Tell your hubby thank you. ;)
And a funny movie.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:22:52pm |
re: #190 Obdicut
By the by, looks like I will be moving to New York after all. Happily the company I work for wants me to keep working for them in one way or another, so the turmoil will be less than complete, but it's still going to be a hell of a culture shock. San Francisco is a rather different place.
We'll be there for eight years-- at least that's time enough to get into a groove.
Good for you...i think...right? How did the fiance take the news?
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:23:26pm |
re: #190 Obdicut
By the by, looks like I will be moving to New York after all. Happily the company I work for wants me to keep working for them in one way or another, so the turmoil will be less than complete, but it's still going to be a hell of a culture shock. San Francisco is a rather different place.
We'll be there for eight years-- at least that's time enough to get into a groove.
Do you have family there?
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prairiefire Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:23:30pm |
re: #190 Obdicut
To Manhattan? My cousin sells real estate in Manhattan.
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Aceofwhat? Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:23:38pm |
re: #189 Walter L. Newton
Holy shit... my right hand just disappeared... and I didn't even quote the link.
I blame WindUpBird. I was, like, totally set up...
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:24:10pm |
re: #190 Obdicut
By the by, looks like I will be moving to New York after all. Happily the company I work for wants me to keep working for them in one way or another, so the turmoil will be less than complete, but it's still going to be a hell of a culture shock. San Francisco is a rather different place.
We'll be there for eight years-- at least that's time enough to get into a groove.
ADVENTURE TIME!!!
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:24:11pm |
re: #190 Obdicut
New York City itself, or simply New York state? Sounds like a potentially positive move in any case. I have a friend who moved from L.A. to live in Manhattan. Some of the culture shock related emails he sent out here true treats. (Like the first time he went outside and it was snowing.)
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Jeff In Ohio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:24:38pm |
re: #165 Cato the Elder
Which leaves me unmoved as far as my willingness to tolerate fascists in the present. The present is the only time I have any control over.
I really miss not being there. :)
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Guanxi88 Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:24:47pm |
re: #196 Decatur Deb
It's a wonderful town.
Correction:
It's a Hell of a Town:
The Bronx is up
And the Battery's down!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:24:56pm |
re: #185 Aceofwhat?
gah! i quoted WUB's stinking link! somebody please help me report #181!
Argh! I forgot I can't link crazysites. Sorry guys :(
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:25:04pm |
re: #190 Obdicut
Good luck to you!
New York is a little less expensive than SF!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:25:49pm |
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:26:40pm |
re: #192 Aceofwhat?
Well, she was upset to be rejected from Stanford and UCSF-- and it turns out the reason she was rejected at UCSF was typical bureaucratic bullshit. Every single member of the committee wanted to admit her but a bad review by her student interviewer sank her. She thought it was one of the committee before; it's actually better, long-term, this way because it means she doesn't have a highly-placed enemy, just a random shitbag student who was (my reading) jealous of how gorgeous she is.
It's an amazing achievement to get into any MSTP program at all, and NYU is no slouch as a med school, either.
As for my part of it, I figured that my company would be smart enough to want to keep using me for work after we moved. Now I get to play the fun game of figuring out whether incorporating my own business or staying as an employee is the better idea. If I can't get health insurance from her student status, we'll kind of be hosed. How apropos to our national discussion; the main thing limiting my economic options in New York is health insurance.
But I'm happy that she got into a great program and happy that my company values me as much as they do, yeah. And subsidized housing in NYC is nothing to sniff at either.
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Jeff In Ohio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:26:42pm |
re: #188 darthstar
Dark Star isn't obscure, it's 14 to 23 minutes of beautiful funky jazzy spacy improvisation. Tell your hubby thank you. ;)
And then the song starts.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:26:57pm |
re: #196 Decatur Deb
It's a wonderful town.
I was back there last Sept. Hadn't been there for 25 year. I was bopping around downtown like I never left. For natives, it's like breathing, for outsiders... it can be a culture shock.
Look for friendly but stern, no bullshit, New Yorkers can see through bullshit like a knife through butter, very loyal... if they like you... great culture, great nightlife, really great 24 hour a day life and a wonderful melting pot.
Jerks need not apply.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:27:06pm |
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:27:10pm |
re: #190 Obdicut
By the by, looks like I will be moving to New York after all. Happily the company I work for wants me to keep working for them in one way or another, so the turmoil will be less than complete, but it's still going to be a hell of a culture shock. San Francisco is a rather different place.
We'll be there for eight years-- at least that's time enough to get into a groove.
Congratulations on employment in one of the world's most interesting cities, and good luck finding an affordable place to live.
But someone who believes in the future, not the present, really ought to be more careful. "We'll be there for eight years"? You don't even know if you'll make it all the way there. You might never get out of SF, what with Gaia's recent predilection for seismic events.
Just sayin'. Good luck, anyway.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:27:26pm |
re: #190 Obdicut
By the by, looks like I will be moving to New York after all. Happily the company I work for wants me to keep working for them in one way or another, so the turmoil will be less than complete, but it's still going to be a hell of a culture shock. San Francisco is a rather different place.
We'll be there for eight years-- at least that's time enough to get into a groove.
Whoa. That should be interesting. o_o I couldn't do SF or New York, not enough open space, and I'm too much of a car guy.
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Guanxi88 Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:27:28pm |
re: #207 Walter L. Newton
I was back there last Sept. Hadn't been there for 25 year. I was bopping around downtown like I never left. For natives, it's like breathing, for outsiders... it can be a culture shock.
Look for friendly but stern, no bullshit, New Yorkers can see through bullshit like a knife through butter, very loyal... if they like you... great culture, great nightlife, really great 24 hour a day life and a wonderful melting pot.
Jerks need not apply.
That's why there's Jersey.
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Guanxi88 Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:29:04pm |
re: #205 Obdicut
Congrats, sir! You'll find yourself quite pleased to live in what was, until very recently, the capital of the late, great cosmopolitan West. Really civilized, it can be, and - best of all - not so many Californians.
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simoom Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:29:06pm |
Fmr. PM Allawi takes the lead:
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
With 80% of votes counted, the secular Shia-Sunni Iraqiya coalition led by Mr Allawi, a former prime minister, has a narrow overall lead for the first time.But Mr Maliki's State of Law alliance remains ahead in Baghdad and Basra.
The BBC's Andrew North, in the capital, says the picture could well change by the time all the votes are counted.Results from refugee voters outside Iraq, and special pre-election voting by Iraqi security forces have still to be announced, and they could dramatically affect the outcome of the parliamentary poll, our correspondent says.
With neither coalition able to win an overall majority, it is likely to mean talks on forming a new government will be long and difficult, he adds.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:29:28pm |
re: #200 Guanxi88
Correction:
It's a Hell of a Town:
The Bronx is up
And the Battery's down!
Watch for slaughter on 10th Ave.
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:29:30pm |
re: #194 prairiefire
I'm not going to be in a position to buy any real estate anytime soon, I hope. (because if I was, it would mean my parents were dead.)
And no, Walter, no family there. Lots of friends, though. My family actually lives in SF part of the year so that's a sadness, especially since we're planning on kids relatively soon.
I'm excited about New York. I'm a perpetual optimist. But damn, moving sucks.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:29:34pm |
re: #211 Guanxi88
That's why there's Jersey.
Whoa... lol... but I moved to North Jersey in 64, jerks go to Elizabeth, smart people get all the way out to the country and the Berkshire Mountains.
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torrentprime Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:29:59pm |
re: #190 Obdicut
By the by, looks like I will be moving to New York after all. Happily the company I work for wants me to keep working for them in one way or another, so the turmoil will be less than complete, but it's still going to be a hell of a culture shock. San Francisco is a rather different place.
We'll be there for eight years-- at least that's time enough to get into a groove.
Congrats.
I'm still trying to get the courage (well, and the relo funds) to move to San Fran. :) Enjoy the other coast.
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Guanxi88 Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:30:29pm |
re: #216 Walter L. Newton
Whoa... lol... but I moved to North Jersey in 64, jerks go to Elizabeth, smart people get all the way out to the country and the Berkshire Mountains.
That doesn't count, of course. You were just passing through.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:31:38pm |
re: #216 Walter L. Newton
Whoa... lol... but I moved to North Jersey in 64, jerks go to Elizabeth, smart people get all the way out to the country and the Berkshire Mountains.
I lived a few years in Vernon Valley, at the foot of the slopes, but that's a hard commute.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:32:08pm |
re: #218 Guanxi88
That doesn't count, of course. You were just passing through.
I guess.. the same way I was passing through Dallas, Mesquite, Richardson, Houston, Spring...
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:32:18pm |
re: #210 WindUpBird
I am the anti-car guy, so it's the perfect city for me.
re: #212 Guanxi88
My New York friends tell me Californians of my disposition are very welcome in NY, as we provide a useful cultural counterpoint. I know what they mean-- someone who's attitude is different can be a really great thing to have around.
I've been to New York plenty in the past, had to go there for business a lot, just never lived there.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:32:53pm |
re: #219 Decatur Deb
I lived a few years in Vernon Valley, at the foot of the slopes, but that's a hard commute.
Really... I use to go skiing at Vernon Valley, back around 66,67.
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Jeff In Ohio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:32:54pm |
re: #216 Walter L. Newton
Whoa... lol... but I moved to North Jersey in 64, jerks go to Elizabeth, smart people get all the way out to the country and the Berkshire Mountains.
If they're in Mass. In NJ, maybe the Ramapo's.
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Guanxi88 Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:33:50pm |
re: #221 Obdicut
I am the anti-car guy, so it's the perfect city for me.
re: #212 Guanxi88
My New York friends tell me Californians of my disposition are very welcome in NY, as we provide a useful cultural counterpoint. I know what they mean-- someone who's attitude is different can be a really great thing to have around.
I've been to New York plenty in the past, had to go there for business a lot, just never lived there.
When I was living back east, I know the few west coasters I came across might as well have been from another planet, in terms of their attitude and orientation. It really was like someone dropped a buddhist monk smack in the middle of the NYSE trading pit with you guys - WAY too mellow.
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:33:56pm |
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:34:59pm |
re: #223 Jeff In Ohio
If they're in Mass. In NJ, maybe the Ramapo's.
Unless I'm missing something, the Berkshires are in North Jersey. Or am I mistaking. I live right near Berkshire Valley, below a ridge that ran right up northeast out of the state... ?
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:36:13pm |
re: #221 Obdicut
I am the anti-car guy, so it's the perfect city for me.
re: #212 Guanxi88
My New York friends tell me Californians of my disposition are very welcome in NY, as we provide a useful cultural counterpoint. I know what they mean-- someone who's attitude is different can be a really great thing to have around.
I've been to New York plenty in the past, had to go there for business a lot, just never lived there.
Trust me...the pig's head is phenomenal.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:36:52pm |
The GOP health care count: 209 no, 204 yes, 18 undecided
There are two ways to count votes for the Democrats' national health care plan. The first is to tally the lawmakers who are definitely yes or leaning yes. The second is to count the ones who are definitely no and leaning no.
From the Republican side, it's the second group that matters. Just like Democrats need 216 votes to pass the bill, Republicans and their Democratic allies need 216 to stop it. I just got off the phone with a well-placed House GOP source, and the Republicans' latest count is that there are 209 votes against the bill at this moment, leaving opponents seven short of being able to defeat it. By the same count, there are 204 votes for the bill, leaving the Democratic leadership 12 short of being able to pass it. There are 18 votes thought to be undecided.
Exciting till the end, huh?
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:36:56pm |
re: #227 Walter L. Newton
Unless I'm missing something, the Berkshires are in North Jersey. Or am I mistaking. I live right near Berkshire Valley, below a ridge that ran right up northeast out of the state... ?
Ok... I am missing something... looking at some maps... the hills and valley below a ridge in my township was called Berkshire Valley, maybe just a name... not related... I'm looking.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:37:51pm |
re: #230 darthstar
Trust me...the pig's head is phenomenal.
My friends just went there. Phenomenal they said. Lucky you!.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:37:56pm |
re: #227 Walter L. Newton
Unless I'm missing something, the Berkshires are in North Jersey. Or am I mistaking. I live right near Berkshire Valley, below a ridge that ran right up northeast out of the state... ?
We thought of them as a part of the Poconos, but even that could be too far north.
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Jeff In Ohio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:38:09pm |
re: #227 Walter L. Newton
Unless I'm missing something, the Berkshires are in North Jersey. Or am I mistaking. I live right near Berkshire Valley, below a ridge that ran right up northeast out of the state... ?
THe Berkshire Mountains are in western Massachusetts. Vernon Valley, I'm pretty sure (I grew up about in northern NJ, but it's been a while) is in the Ramapo Mountains. Berkshire Valley, don't know where that is.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:38:29pm |
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Guanxi88 Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:38:30pm |
re: #224 Guanxi88
When I was living back east, I know the few west coasters I came across might as well have been from another planet, in terms of their attitude and orientation. It really was like someone dropped a buddhist monk smack in the middle of the NYSE trading pit with you guys - WAY too mellow.
Recall talking on the phone with a publishing house out in 'Frisco.
"So, where the hell are my goddamned books? I paid you guys three months ago and I haven't got squat."
"relax, man, they're on their way here. Soon as we get 'em, you'll get 'em."
"Wait a minute, I f*cking paid you guys on spec for my books? I could have f*cking walked to China and got 'em my damned self faster."
"Dude, ya need to chill out."
"Dude me no dudes, fellow....."
And so it went. F*cking hippy clerk wrecked my day; I can only hope I harshed his mellow, or whatever it is one does to such folk.
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Jeff In Ohio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:38:55pm |
re: #234 Decatur Deb
We thought of them as a part of the Poconos, but even that could be too far north.
Pennsylvania.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:40:09pm |
re: #237 Guanxi88
Recall talking on the phone with a publishing house out in 'Frisco.
Herb Caen once wrote, you can always tell someone who isn't from San Francisco...they call it 'Frisco.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:40:32pm |
Are we having geography problems today?
I thought the median blog age here was a little older than that.
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Guanxi88 Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:40:55pm |
re: #239 darthstar
Herb Caen once wrote, you can always tell someone who isn't from San Francisco...they call it 'Frisco.
See, we're in too much of a rush to even go through all the syllables.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:41:24pm |
re: #239 darthstar
Herb Caen once wrote, you can always tell someone who isn't from San Francisco...they call it 'Frisco.
Hell, anyone who calls it that has never even visited there.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:41:42pm |
Airline Crew Face Jail In Dubai Over Sexy Texts
DUBAI (Reuters) - Two Emirates airlines cabin crew have been ordered jailed for three months in Dubai over sexually explicit text messages, the latest in a string of indecency cases against foreigners, a newspaper reported Wednesday.
The pair, an Indian flight attendant and her cabin services supervisor, were convicted of "coercion to commit sin" over the messages and initially sentenced to six months in jail, The National newspaper said on its website, citing court documents.
The sentence was reduced on appeal last week to three months and deportation orders against the pair were lifted, it added. It did not reveal the content of the messages.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:42:03pm |
re: #238 Jeff In Ohio
Pennsylvania.
The terrain was part of the Ramapo Fault, so I guess the Mountains work too. (Had to have a radon check to sell the house.)
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:43:16pm |
re: #241 Guanxi88
See, we're in too much of a rush to even go through all the syllables.
The locals say 'San Fran'.
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windsagio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:43:24pm |
OT: Hard things to listen to~
Carl Rove on Fresh Air (Transcript)
A whole bunch of Terry Gross quoting various people about dirty tricks, and Rove saying "I don't agree with that."
I know its old new, but the guy's a freakin' weasel :p
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:43:44pm |
re: #238 Jeff In Ohio
Pennsylvania.
Evidently there is a "local" misconception about the mountain ridges that spread up the east coast. Decatur Deb is correct that in that area, we always saw the Poconos as becoming the Berkshires in Northern New Jersey and continuing on into New England.
I'm looking over maps in another tab, and I see the differences, and I also see how it could have just been assumed.
Berkshire Valley is near Lake Hopatcong.
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windsagio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:43:52pm |
re: #246 SanFranciscoZionist
Also, up the coast they call it San Fran.
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Guanxi88 Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:43:53pm |
re: #242 Cato the Elder
Hell, anyone who calls it that has never even visited there.
Funny, here in the Lone Star state, those who call San Antonio anything but "San Anton" are either Spanish speakers, working in some official capacity, using the full name for artistic reasons, or are lost and trying to find the Alamo.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:44:08pm |
re: #240 Cato the Elder
Are we having geography problems today?
I thought the median blog age here was a little older than that.
It was Joisey--they were just the frikkin' mountains.
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Guanxi88 Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:44:25pm |
re: #246 SanFranciscoZionist
The locals say 'San Fran'.
See? Too laid back to even bother to call it by the frenetically clipped name.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:44:56pm |
re: #247 windsagio
OT: Hard things to listen to~
Carl Rove on Fresh Air (Transcript)
A whole bunch of Terry Gross quoting various people about dirty tricks, and Rove saying "I don't agree with that."
I know its old new, but the guy's a freakin' weasel :p
That's an insult to weasels everywhere.
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Uninformed Opinion Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:45:03pm |
re: #247 windsagio
OT: Hard things to listen to~
Carl Rove on Fresh Air (Transcript)
A whole bunch of Terry Gross quoting various people about dirty tricks, and Rove saying "I don't agree with that."
I know its old new, but the guy's a freakin' weasel :p
I had the most amazing vein in my forehead after listening to that interview.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:45:40pm |
Holder Says he will Mirandize OBAMA'S corpse
Oh, wing-nuts...they're so witty.
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Guanxi88 Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:47:11pm |
re: #252 Guanxi88
See? Too laid back to even bother to call it by the frenetically clipped name.
I think it's all that Mary-Ja-wana they smoke out there. I seen the newsreels, I know what goes on out there!
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:47:12pm |
re: #252 Guanxi88
See? Too laid back to even bother to call it by the frenetically clipped name.
Bloody New Yorkers running around in hysterics, being neurotic and getting nothing done very fast.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:47:27pm |
re: #247 windsagio
OT: Hard things to listen to~
Carl Rove on Fresh Air (Transcript)
A whole bunch of Terry Gross quoting various people about dirty tricks, and Rove saying "I don't agree with that."
I know its old new, but the guy's a freakin' weasel :p
He was great at his job; making the left insane with rage and conspiracies. He did his job very well for almost a decade. Remember when the left was crazier than the right? That was Rove's work. Ya gotta admire that.
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Uninformed Opinion Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:47:32pm |
re: #256 windsagio
I know right? It was brutal >
Better than the dick armey interview from a few months ago. Nevertheless, I was all fired up for the rest of the day, I might have to go bait some conservatives.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:47:49pm |
re: #246 SanFranciscoZionist
The locals say 'San Fran'.
This native San Franciscan still calls it San Francisco. I love my city down to its last vowel.
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Uninformed Opinion Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:48:27pm |
re: #259 Killgore Trout
He was great at his job; making the left insane with rage and conspiracies. He did his job very well for almost a decade. Remember when the left was crazier than the right? That was Rove's work. Ya gotta admire that.
The left was never crazier than the right. it was just portrayed that way.
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Guanxi88 Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:48:34pm |
re: #258 SanFranciscoZionist
Bloody New Yorkers running around in hysterics, being neurotic and getting nothing done very fast.
Non-stop, round the clock. Beantowners aren't much better - sorta like a Manhattanite with a better education and a loftier sense of social status. 'cept for the Townies, of course, but they don't count.
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windsagio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:48:34pm |
re: #260 Uninformed Opinion
The thing I can't understand is how she can be so polite to these Troglodytes >>
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Jeff In Ohio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:48:58pm |
re: #248 Walter L. Newton
Evidently there is a "local" misconception about the mountain ridges that spread up the east coast. Decatur Deb is correct that in that area, we always saw the Poconos as becoming the Berkshires in Northern New Jersey and continuing on into New England.
I'm looking over maps in another tab, and I see the differences, and I also see how it could have just been assumed.
Berkshire Valley is near Lake Hopatcong.
Interesting. Where to the Catskills fit in? I always thought Vernon was in the Ramapos. Bear Mountain/West Point is the Ramapo range. Then, going north it went Catskills, Adirondack's. When you crossed the Hudson from the Catskills, Adirondack's, you hit the Berkshires, the Green and White Mountains. Going west across Jersey, you didn't hit the Poconos till you crossed the Delaware River.
But really, I never really thought much about it.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:49:17pm |
re: #262 Uninformed Opinion
The left was never crazier than the right. it was just portrayed that way.
Could be, but I don't think the right used to be this crazy.
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Uninformed Opinion Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:49:39pm |
re: #264 windsagio
The thing I can't understand is how she can be so polite to these Troglodytes >>
I like to measure the dead air after a good question. its a good interview most of the time.
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windsagio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:49:44pm |
re: #263 Guanxi88
The idea I'm getting from all this is 'East coast cities tend to be uptight and egotistical to the max.'
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Guanxi88 Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:49:55pm |
re: #264 windsagio
The thing I can't understand is how she can be so polite to these Troglodytes >>
You ever really listen to the lady speak? Sounds like she just put down two bars of Xanax.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:50:01pm |
Rove: one woman's "magnificent bastard" is another man's candidate for an extended vacation in Den Haag.
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Guanxi88 Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:50:14pm |
re: #268 windsagio
The idea I'm getting from all this is 'East coast cities tend to be uptight and egotistical to the max.'
Yeah - ya wanna make something of it?
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Uninformed Opinion Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:50:23pm |
re: #266 SanFranciscoZionist
Could be, but I don't think the right used to be this crazy.
at least they were not this crazy in public.
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:50:53pm |
re: #268 windsagio
The idea I'm getting from all this is 'East coast cities tend to be uptight and egotistical to the max.'
I'm better than you. Pure and simple. Peasant.
/
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:51:24pm |
re: #265 Jeff In Ohio
Interesting. Where to the Catskills fit in? I always thought Vernon was in the Ramapos. Bear Mountain/West Point is the Ramapo range. Then, going north it went Catskills, Adirondack's. When you crossed the Hudson from the Catskills, Adirondack's, you hit the Berkshires, the Green and White Mountains. Going west across Jersey, you didn't hit the Poconos till you crossed the Delaware River.
But really, I never really thought much about it.
I'm talking about teens years, it was all a blur to us, it was all hills from west to east. We didn't have a real sense of geography... I was a city boy... they were all mountains.
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:51:32pm |
Speaking of geography, what large Southern city, whose name begins with a T, is a favorite destination of transplanted New Yorkers?
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:51:33pm |
Hawaii considering law to ignore Obama 'birthers'
HONOLULU – Birthers beware: Hawaii may start ignoring your repeated requests for proof that President Barack Obama was born here.
As the state continues to receive e-mails seeking Obama's birth certificate, the state House Judiciary Committee heard a bill Tuesday permitting government officials to ignore people who won't give up.
"Sometimes we may be dealing with a cohort of people who believe lack of evidence is evidence of a conspiracy," said Lorrin Kim, chief of the Hawaii Department of Health's Office of Planning, Policy and Program Development.
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Uninformed Opinion Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:51:43pm |
re: #271 Guanxi88
Yeah - ya wanna make something of it?
It is easy to be egotistical when you are the center of the world.
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windsagio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:52:13pm |
re: #271 Guanxi88
haha
My friend from Penn has some really funny stories about Philly too, less egotistical, but much more in your face.
re: #269 Guanxi88
She does have that 'voice bulit for NPR or classical music radio'.
re: #273 Varek Raith
It is scary, my brother-in-law grew up and went to school on the other coast, and his achievements put us all to shame >>
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:52:15pm |
re: #268 windsagio
The idea I'm getting from all this is 'East coast cities tend to be uptight and egotistical to the max.'
Yep... and watcha gonna do about it?
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Guanxi88 Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:52:55pm |
re: #277 Uninformed Opinion
It is easy to be egotistical when you are the center of the world.
True indeed. Like the tale of the old lady Brahmin - she'd spent her entire 80 some years up on Beacon Hill, and never ventured farther than Copley.
"Why should I travel, when I was born in the only place worth going?"
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:53:41pm |
re: #261 darthstar
Indeed. My grandmother would lecture anyone using 'Frisco' at great length.
now, the dark part is: My fiancee also got accepted at Caltech. We are leaning heavily against it, but there's the possibility that I might have to move to god-damned-Pasadena.
I hate LA. I don't drive, I don't care about the gliteratti, and I've never had a positive experience visiting LA that wasn't tinged with some form of rankness.
Still, it's really unlikely we'll go there. It's not an MSTP program, so it's not nearly as prestigious to get into even if Caltech is a more prestigious school. And the med school is just U of Southern California, which is less prestigious than NYU. Plus the students tend to take a long time with their PhDs.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:54:52pm |
re: #282 Obdicut
Indeed. My grandmother would lecture anyone using 'Frisco' at great length.
now, the dark part is: My fiancee also got accepted at Caltech. We are leaning heavily against it, but there's the possibility that I might have to move to god-damned-Pasadena.
I hate LA. I don't drive, I don't care about the gliteratti, and I've never had a positive experience visiting LA that wasn't tinged with some form of rankness.
Still, it's really unlikely we'll go there. It's not an MSTP program, so it's not nearly as prestigious to get into even if Caltech is a more prestigious school. And the med school is just U of Southern California, which is less prestigious than NYU. Plus the students tend to take a long time with their PhDs.
In the end, it all comes down to the deli.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:55:02pm |
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Uninformed Opinion Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:55:08pm |
re: #281 Guanxi88
True indeed. Like the tale of the old lady Brahmin - she'd spent her entire 80 some years up on Beacon Hill, and never ventured farther than Copley.
"Why should I travel, when I was born in the only place worth going?"
Except she was talking about Boston, a city that barely out ranks newark.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:55:14pm |
re: #276 NJDhockeyfan
What they really ought to do, is figure out how much it costs them to process the request, and triple it. Make a little money off teh crazies!
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:55:52pm |
re: #260 Uninformed Opinion
I might have to go bait some conservatives.
re: #262 Uninformed Opinion
The left was never crazier than the right. it was just portrayed that way.
Consider me baited! But I won't give you the satisfaction of watching me writhing in cognitive dissonant turmoil, like a gaffed swordfish flopping in the water.
/ So there!
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:56:04pm |
re: #286 Floral Giraffe
What they really ought to do, is figure out how much it costs them to process the request, and triple it. Make a little money off teh crazies!
I'll supply them with birth certificates for half the price.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:56:31pm |
re: #282 Obdicut
Tough choices for her to make! You too!
Pasadena's not bad....
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:56:32pm |
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:56:39pm |
re: #285 Uninformed Opinion
Except she was talking about Boston, a city that barely out ranks newark.
Not working.
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Uninformed Opinion Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:56:43pm |
re: #288 The Sanity Inspector
Consider me baited! But I won't give you the satisfaction of watching me writhing in cognitive dissonant turmoil, like a gaffed swordfish flopping in the water.
/ So there!
Oh noes! How else will i get my cheap thrills?
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Uninformed Opinion Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:57:45pm |
re: #288 The Sanity Inspector
Consider me baited! But I won't give you the satisfaction of watching me writhing in cognitive dissonant turmoil, like a gaffed swordfish flopping in the water.
/ So there!
and I would just walk outside and talk to my neighbor if i really wanted to.
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:57:52pm |
re: #283 Decatur Deb
Fuck yeah. I can never understand that about LA: you've got a huge blend of cultures and ethnicities, so how come finding a good restaurant is so fucking hard? I know I'm spoiled in San Francisco, but it feels like in LA I have to go to a super-fancy place to get food as good as I'd get in the average place in SF.
I know there are probably awesome hole-in-the-walls and stuff, but it just seems massively uneven in terms of quality.
It's just too spread out, too. A city needs to be well-defined. LA is like a city got really drunk and fell down into a puddle of its own puke.
/no offense, LA-sters, I'm sure there's lovely aspects to it, but you can have it.
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keloyd Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:57:56pm |
I was mystified that Rove would consider going on NPR's Think. Surely he's savvy enough to know the show's reputation, or have staff who know. If he's willing to go there, maybe The Daily Show has him next week? Why not just hang out on Fox News shows? The part about his family was interesting though. It always intrigued me what a person must go through in their early life to end up as some kind of unusual person - either a good comedian, a really good diplomat, Hitler, or a political/criminal mastermind.
Still, I don't think Lee Atwater, Dick Morris, or James Carville are one nanocurie more or less ethical than Rove. They're all mercenaries, with the distinction for Rove that I'm not aware of him hiring himself out to foreign politicians like Carville and Morris.
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Jeff In Ohio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:58:38pm |
re: #274 Walter L. Newton
I'm talking about teens years, it was all a blur to us, it was all hills from west to east. We didn't have a real sense of geography... I was a city boy... they were all mountains.
I've crawled all over that area, but never really thought to much about what starts where. Rt. 6 at Bear Mountain was ground zero for my misspent youth. Go east, north, west or south, it was all one party, camp out and drive.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 3:59:08pm |
I realize this is a 'rocks in glass houses' kind of thing, but it has been several months since a Republican has been caught up in any kind of half-way decent salacious scandal. I'm thinking the Democrats are a little late getting this out there:
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Uninformed Opinion Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:00:12pm |
re: #299 darthstar
I realize this is a 'rocks in glass houses' kind of thing, but it has been several months since a Republican has been caught up in any kind of half-way decent salacious scandal. I'm thinking the Democrats are a little late getting this out there:
[Video]
shouldnt it be "wracked" by scandal?
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:00:18pm |
re: #295 Obdicut
Well, I'd have recomended Phillipe's, the home of the original beef dip sandwich. EXCEPT they got shut down by the health department. Pests, cleanliness issues. I will still recommend The Original Pantry, good food, lots of it & cheap. Plus, we have In & Out Burgers!
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:01:14pm |
re: #300 Uninformed Opinion
shouldnt it be "wracked" by scandal?
Ugh...they must have hired someone from Liberty University to do their captions.
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:01:57pm |
re: #301 Floral Giraffe
In and Out is always good, I'll grant that. But man cannot live on double-double animal style alone.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:02:05pm |
FACT CHECK: Premiums would rise under Obama plan
WASHINGTON — Buyers, beware: President Barack Obama says his health care overhaul will lower premiums by double digits, but check the fine print.
Premiums are likely to keep going up even if the health care bill passes, experts say. If cost controls work as advertised, annual increases would level off with time. But don't look for a rollback. Instead, the main reason premiums would be more affordable is that new government tax credits would help cover the cost for millions of people.
Listening to Obama pitch his plan, you might not realize that's how it works.
This is from the AP.
(AP = Associated Press, not the Alternative Press)
//
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Jeff In Ohio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:02:09pm |
re: #247 windsagio
OT: Hard things to listen to~
Carl Rove on Fresh Air (Transcript)
A whole bunch of Terry Gross quoting various people about dirty tricks, and Rove saying "I don't agree with that."
I know its old new, but the guy's a freakin' weasel :p
Terry Gross in Epic Fail Mode. SHe really ought to stick to culture. You can't do political criticism with sound bites, especially when the guy your playing 'gotcha' with is a master of deflection and obfuscation.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:02:33pm |
re: #295 Obdicut
Fuck yeah. I can never understand that about LA: you've got a huge blend of cultures and ethnicities, so how come finding a good restaurant is so fucking hard? I know I'm spoiled in San Francisco, but it feels like in LA I have to go to a super-fancy place to get food as good as I'd get in the average place in SF.
I know there are probably awesome hole-in-the-walls and stuff, but it just seems massively uneven in terms of quality.
It's just too spread out, too. A city needs to be well-defined. LA is like a city got really drunk and fell down into a puddle of its own puke.
/no offense, LA-sters, I'm sure there's lovely aspects to it, but you can have it.
The traffic alone could kill you.
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garhighway Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:04:01pm |
re: #295 Obdicut
Fuck yeah. I can never understand that about LA: you've got a huge blend of cultures and ethnicities, so how come finding a good restaurant is so fucking hard? I know I'm spoiled in San Francisco, but it feels like in LA I have to go to a super-fancy place to get food as good as I'd get in the average place in SF.
I know there are probably awesome hole-in-the-walls and stuff, but it just seems massively uneven in terms of quality.
It's just too spread out, too. A city needs to be well-defined. LA is like a city got really drunk and fell down into a puddle of its own puke.
/no offense, LA-sters, I'm sure there's lovely aspects to it, but you can have it.
You'll love NYC so long as the pace don't freak you out: everything happens a little faster here. Being at NYU is excellent: that's in the heart of Greenwich Village with fabulous dining, nightlife and culture. Assuming the cost of housing doesn't mess you up (and it shouldn't if you are coming from SF) there are some great residential neighborhoods right in Manhattan.
I've lived here a little over 10 years and haven't regretted it for a minute.
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:06:03pm |
re: #307 garhighway
I'm actually happier when things are moving really, really fast, I just prefer being calm during the process.
And we get subsidized housing on the upper east side, apparently. So I've got that going for me, which is nice.
I'll have to look you up when I get into town. And I have to have a beer with SFZ before I leave here.
I'm really excited about New York. I mean, the Met alone-- I could spend years in there.
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Daniel Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:07:02pm |
re: #295 Obdicut
Next you are in town, look us up. I can change that restaurant impression in 3 meals or less.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:07:21pm |
re: #304 NJDhockeyfan
FACT CHECK: Premiums would rise under Obama plan
This is from the AP.
(AP = Associated Press, not the Alternative Press)
//
In other words, they're going to go up regardless, at least in the short term. HCR will eventually off-set and slow this process...so it's a good thing.
Premiums are likely to keep going up even if the health care bill passes, experts say. If cost controls work as advertised, annual increases would level off with time. But don't look for a rollback. Instead, the main reason premiums would be more affordable is that new government tax credits would help cover the cost for millions of people.
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:08:08pm |
re: #309 Rightwingconspirator
Oh, I'm sure there are great restaurants, I'm just frustrated at finding them on my own. Really, I know I'm over the top with my dislike of LA, it's just set up in a way that's the opposite of my personality.
And I generally only go into Burbank these days, for work. But I'll definitely drop a line if I do before we move-- or if we move to Pasadena.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:08:44pm |
re: #308 Obdicut
I'm actually happier when things are moving really, really fast, I just prefer being calm during the process.
And we get subsidized housing on the upper east side, apparently. So I've got that going for me, which is nice.
I'll have to look you up when I get into town. And I have to have a beer with SFZ before I leave here.
I'm really excited about New York. I mean, the Met alone-- I could spend years in there.
I'll join you for a beer too! If you don't leave before baseball season, I might be able to swing tickets to a Giants game as well.
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Daniel Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:09:21pm |
Shoutout to Thanos
This link you posted! Oh my goodness. Now that is how to use HDDSLR tech!
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:09:27pm |
I've been thinking about something, and herewith offer it for your consideration.
Say you open the newspaper, flip on the tube, or click to your go-to news source. You see the opposition up to something which disgusts you. "Those people are idiots!", you think to yourself.
Question: What would they be like if they weren't idiots?
If your response is along the lines of "Well, then they would stop saying X and doing Y," then all well and good.
But if your response, whether articulated or pre-verbal, is "If they weren't idiots, they would be more like me," then, you're an idiot.
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:09:35pm |
re: #312 darthstar
My fiancee has never actually been to the park. Gotta do that before we go.
You're down in Half Moon Bay, if I remember right?
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:10:20pm |
re: #311 Obdicut
Oh, I'm sure there are great restaurants, I'm just frustrated at finding them on my own. Really, I know I'm over the top with my dislike of LA, it's just set up in a way that's the opposite of my personality.
And I generally only go into Burbank these days, for work. But I'll definitely drop a line if I do before we move-- or if we move to Pasadena.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:10:42pm |
re: #315 Obdicut
My fiancee has never actually been to the park. Gotta do that before we go.
You're down in Half Moon Bay, if I remember right?
near there, yes.
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:12:23pm |
re: #317 darthstar
Nifty. Well, you and SFZ are invited to our pre-wedding BBQ, that's on June 18th, day before the wedding. If nothing else, I could see you then. But it'd be nice to do something slightly more relaxed than that, too.
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garhighway Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:12:39pm |
re: #296 keloyd
I was mystified that Rove would consider going on NPR's Think. Surely he's savvy enough to know the show's reputation, or have staff who know. If he's willing to go there, maybe The Daily Show has him next week? Why not just hang out on Fox News shows? The part about his family was interesting though. It always intrigued me what a person must go through in their early life to end up as some kind of unusual person - either a good comedian, a really good diplomat, Hitler, or a political/criminal mastermind.
Still, I don't think Lee Atwater, Dick Morris, or James Carville are one nanocurie more or less ethical than Rove. They're all mercenaries, with the distinction for Rove that I'm not aware of him hiring himself out to foreign politicians like Carville and Morris.
Colbert had Rove on last week. Or more precisely, he had on a big ham wearing Karl Rove glasses. The resemblance was pretty remarkable.
Trying to gauge moral equivalence among the politicos you name is hard. The only bright line test I can think of is whether they played to bigotry to win an election. That's a big Fail to me, regardless of party.
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garhighway Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:13:12pm |
re: #308 Obdicut
I'm actually happier when things are moving really, really fast, I just prefer being calm during the process.
And we get subsidized housing on the upper east side, apparently. So I've got that going for me, which is nice.
I'll have to look you up when I get into town. And I have to have a beer with SFZ before I leave here.
I'm really excited about New York. I mean, the Met alone-- I could spend years in there.
The Upper East Side is nice. Subway access to downtown is a little thin, but that's a minor quibble.
I'm on the Upper West Side. There was a little piece in the NYT years ago that quoted a mover as saying he could look in the truck and tell if the movee was going to UWS or UES by their ratio of books to clothes. More books: West. More clothes: East.
Do look me up. Lawhawk works around here, too, although I am not sure he's a resident.
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Jeff In Ohio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:14:25pm |
re: #310 darthstar
In other words, they're going to go up regardless, at least in the short term. HCR will eventually off-set and slow this process...so it's a good thing.
Premiums are likely to keep going up even if the health care bill passes, experts say. If cost controls work as advertised, annual increases would level off with time. But don't look for a rollback. Instead, the main reason premiums would be more affordable is that new government tax credits would help cover the cost for millions of people.
Wait, you mean if HCR passes, premiums will still go up and I won't get a Unicorn?
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Daniel Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:16:30pm |
re: #311 Obdicut
Please do, we'd love to see you. In any case-In Toluca Lake, along Riverside are a couple good restaurants. Nippon for Japanese, De Cache for Spanish tapas.
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:17:24pm |
New York...
The trouble with living here is that whenever you feel lonely, the very next thing you run into is a cellist in the subway station.
-- dinner guest quoted by Terry Teachout
On any person who desires such queer prizes, New York will bestow the gift of loneliness and the gift of privacy.
-- E. B. White, _Here is New York_
New Yorkers temperamentally do not crave comfort and convenience--if they did they would live elsewhere.
-- ibid
The city is like poetry: it compresses all life ... into a small island and adds music and the accompaniment of internal engines.
-- ibid
No other city in the United States can divest the visitor of so much money with so little enthusiasm. In Dallas, they take away with gusto; in New Orleans, with a bow; in San Francisco, with a wink and a grin. In New York, you're lucky if you get a grunt.
-- Fletcher Knebel
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:18:59pm |
re: #321 Jeff In Ohio
Wait, you mean if HCR passes, premiums will still go up and I won't get a Unicorn?
We'll get you a my little pony instead.
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garhighway Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:19:23pm |
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:20:04pm |
re: #318 Obdicut
Nifty. Well, you and SFZ are invited to our pre-wedding BBQ, that's on June 18th, day before the wedding. If nothing else, I could see you then. But it'd be nice to do something slightly more relaxed than that, too.
Cool! I've blue-ified my nic so shoot me an email
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:20:05pm |
For the book lovers on LGF.
I just got my perusal copy of Joanne Greenberg's (I Never Promised You A Rose Garden) new book Miri, Who Charms.
She sends me her new works so I can read them and advise her if we should try to adapt to stage (or film).
I mention this as a recommendation, if you are looking for a fresh human interest story, from a award winning author, please give this a try.
"From girlhood through middle age, Rachel and Miri -- two Jewish women living in Colorado -- struggle to sustain a complex, often competitive friendship throughout the challenges that arise over many decades. Miri's young daughter, Tamar, initially appears to offer the long-time friends a link that will strengthen their uneasy bond. But when Tamar develops a passion for a dangerous sport even before the girl reaches puberty, Rachel and Miri's friendship faces a test more severe than any the women have ever experienced."
And shameless promotion, if you purchase through the Amazon link here, Charles gets a little geld.
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simoom Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:21:55pm |
I wen't to Foxnews.com to watch the Obama/Bret Baier interview and it hasn't been put up, but the transcript is there:
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Almost every question Baier asks the President is a legislative process question. It's also amusing how often "(CROSSTALK)" shows up in the middle of the President's answers and then there's exchanges like this:
BAIER: This is one-sixth of the U.S. economy, though, sir. One-sixth.OBAMA: And, Bret, let me tell you something, the fact of the matter is that for the vast majority of people, their health care is not going to change because right now they're getting a better deal. The only thing that is going to change for them is is that they're going to have more security under their insurance and they're going to have a better situation when it comes to if they lose their job, heaven forbid, or somebody gets sick with a preexisting condition, they'll have more security. But, so — so —
BAIER: So how can you —
OBAMA: — the notion that —
BAIER: — guarantee that they're not going to —
OBAMA: — so but —
BAIER: — they're going to be able to keep their doctor —
OBAMA: Bret, you've got to let me finish my answers —
BAIER: Sir, I know you don't like to filibuster, but —
OBAMA: Well, I'm trying to answer your question and you keep on interrupting. So let me be clear.
Oh wait, looks like they put the video up now. I'm off to watch it.
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Randall Gross Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:22:34pm |
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:24:17pm |
re: #329 simoom
I wen't to Foxnews.com to watch the Obama/Bret Baier interview and it hasn't been put up, but the transcript is there:
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]Almost every question Baier asks the President is a legislative process question. It's also amusing how often "(CROSSTALK)" shows up in the middle of the President's answers and then there's exchanges like this:
Oh wait, looks like they put the video up now. I'm off to watch it.
"I know you don't like to filibuster but..." That's when the President should say, "Did you want an interview, or are you just trying to score points?"
Fuck you, Baier.
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:24:27pm |
re: #320 garhighway
I'm definitely a 'more books' person, so we'll confuse them.
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Jeff In Ohio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:24:41pm |
re: #323 The Sanity Inspector
NYC...good times. Laughing with the Yippees, getting rolled by the Hell's Angles, crying with the queers, playing folk songs to the shooters in Thompkins Square, getting a beat down by a red headed crack head in front of a movie theater on St. Marks while on line for a midnight showing of a Clockwork Orange...so many memories, so many forgotten.
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Jeff In Ohio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:25:52pm |
re: #324 darthstar
Word. Can I get one with wings?
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TheMatrix31 Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:26:02pm |
Republicans weak on terrorism? Fuck you, DOJ.
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Jeff In Ohio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:27:04pm |
re: #335 TheMatrix31
Republicans weak on terrorism? Fuck you, DOJ.
Awww, did someone steal your meme?
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:28:28pm |
re: #335 TheMatrix31
Republicans weak on terrorism? Fuck you, DOJ.
Well, they were strong on rhetoric. But actions speak louder than words. (please see the last three months for examples of actions versus rhetoric)
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:28:49pm |
Just saw the last comment From Baier
At the end of the sometimes-contentious interview, Baier apologized for his interrupting, but added that Fox News was just "trying to get the most for our buck here."
I'm gonna go watch now, but hell, just admit it's for the ratings Fox! Not a news source at all.
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:29:44pm |
re: #304 NJDhockeyfan
FACT CHECK: Premiums would rise under Obama plan
This is from the AP.
(AP = Associated Press, not the Alternative Press)
//
Hmm...rates have been going up and up and up for years, gone are the days of measley 10% increases, now every year people are faced 25%-40% increases along with added deductibles and cuts to their coverage. The ranks of the uninsured are still growing rapidly, even amongst those employed by companies who supposedly provide health benefits. You might be able to cover yourself for a reasonably seeming amount but adding a wife and/or children instantly takes the costs out of reach. The coverage just isn't worth what you have to pay each month, and if diaster strikes you just go to the E.R. and then ignore their bills like millions of others do (which drives up the cost for everyone who does still pay into the system).
So your complaining because rates would still rise after "insurance reform"?
How about if any of the measures meant to actually limit or reduce costs had survived the Republican P.R. onslaught? Sorry but healthcare as it stands is irrevocably broken in this country, sure this is not a great bill, it might not even be a good bill, but it is a start. They will add to it, amend it, fiddle and tinker with it over the coming years, perhaps they will even make it work.
The status quo is not working, it is time to try something new, even if it does has some obvious flaws as it is proposed now.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:29:52pm |
re: #338 Stanley Sea
Just saw the last comment From Baier
I'm gonna go watch now, but hell, just admit it's for the ratings Fox! Not a news source at all.
No kidding... I'm sure President Obama will not be saying anything that is newsworthy.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:32:03pm |
re: #341 Walter L. Newton
No kidding... I'm sure President Obama will not be saying anything that is newsworthy.
I'm just surprised Fox didn't cut away from the interview to cover a breaking press-release by Boehner and his joined at the hip twin Cantor.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:33:41pm |
re: #329 simoom
I watched some of the clips earlier, Pretty much what I'd expect from Fox News. He was really fairly rude.
Here's a direct link to the full video: Part 1: The president sits down with FNC's Bret Baier to discuss the health care reform bill
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webevintage Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:34:36pm |
re: #342 darthstar
I'm just surprised Fox didn't cut away from the interview to cover a breaking press-release by Boehner and his joined at the hip twin Cantor.
Once again the President looked cool and calm in the face of complete disrespect from Baier.
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prairiefire Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:35:00pm |
re: #318 Obdicut
I am so jealous. Have fun, you guys, sniff.
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:35:15pm |
re: #343 Killgore Trout
We have a huge cultural problem these days with people thinking that being pushy, combative, and rude is a good substitute for being firm, passionate, and incisive.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:35:18pm |
re: #343 Killgore Trout
He starts interrupting Obama within the first minute. It's going to be a long interview.
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:36:23pm |
re: #345 prairiefire
Wait, are you around here too? I wasn't trying to leave anyone out. Any Bay Area lizards are welcome.
My email is just my name here at that ol' gmail thingy.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:36:29pm |
I'm going to have a drink before I watch anymore. I made it 3 minutes and I need a break already.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:36:41pm |
Paddy Maloney of the Chieftains sings "May Morning Dew" a capella.
If you had his voice, you could get all the chicks.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:36:44pm |
re: #347 Killgore Trout
Well for some reason the video isn't loading for me. I'll take that as a sign.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:37:18pm |
re: #348 Obdicut
Wait, are you around here too? I wasn't trying to leave anyone out. Any Bay Area lizards are welcome.
My email is just my name here at that ol' gmail thingy.
There used to be regular San Fran Lizard lunches. Once a month as I recall.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:37:48pm |
re: #344 webevintage
Once again the President looked cool and calm in the face of complete disrespect from Baier.
You'd think that they'd learn by now that being rude to him doesn't affect him? He's not George W. Bush. Bush would get frustrated and angry if you even questioned his decisions--"I'm the decider!" was his way of saying, "Shut up, don't question my motives!" President Obama knows what he's doing, and isn't afraid to explain it.
While I was against this interview (I believe Fox should be boycotted), I see the president's reason for doing it. How else do you reach those who only see what Fox allows them to see? If he cuts into their viewers by getting 5% of them to think for themselves, it's worth it.
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avanti Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:38:03pm |
Democrats: Vote your conscience on health care
Dear wavering House Democrats,
I feel your pain. Eighteen years ago, I was elected on the coattails of a popular young Democratic president who promised a post-partisan Washington. A year later, with partisan gridlock capturing the Capitol, there was a razor-thin vote on the House floor over legislation that Democrats said would remake the country and Republicans promised would bankrupt it.
I was pressed on all sides: by constituents opposed, my president needing a victory and Republicans promising my demise. I was in the country's most Republican district represented by a Democrat. I had repeatedly said, "I will not be a 'read my lips' candidate," when asked if I would promise not to raise taxes.
I voted my conscience, and it cost me.
Snip-snip
The moral of my brief political story is not that casting a tough and decisive vote necessarily predicts a bad electoral outcome for you, nor that the majority of your constituents is always wrong or always right.
It's that there are times in all our careers when we must ask ourselves why we're here. I decided that my desire for public service at that moment was greater than my desire to guarantee continued service. Yes, there are few jobs as rewarding (mostly) as being a member of Congress, and I was let down after I lost. But I believed then and now that being able to point to something tangible that changed our country for the better was a more powerful motivator than the possible electoral repercussions.
I urge you simply to cast the vote you can be proud of next week, next year and for years to come. Given the opportunity, I wouldn't change my vote.
Then again, what do I know? I was a lousy politician. "
By Marjorie Margolies
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prairiefire Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:38:17pm |
re: #348 Obdicut
Sweetheart, no. I'm hundreds of mile away. Really, have fun.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:38:59pm |
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simoom Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:39:46pm |
re: #344 webevintage
Once again the President looked cool and calm in the face of complete disrespect from Baier.
From what I've seen so far Baier still loses out to the combative Obama / O'Reilly interview, which was actually pretty entertaining, though I suppose it's much harder to tear into a sitting President (within the White House).
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Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:40:08pm |
Workers paying more toward insurance premiums
...
The amount California workers contributed to their employer-backed health coverage increased 83 percent between 2000 and 2008 while their income stayed the same, according to a report released today.
...
While workers are paying a greater share of their employer's insurance, premiums for family coverage in California increased 64.8 percent from 2000 to 2008. The average increase nationwide was 55.6 percent.
...
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:41:32pm |
re: #354 avanti
Democrats: Vote your conscience on health care
Dear wavering House Democrats,I feel your pain. Eighteen years ago, I was elected on the coattails of a popular young Democratic president who promised a post-partisan Washington. A year later, with partisan gridlock capturing the Capitol, there was a razor-thin vote on the House floor over legislation that Democrats said would remake the country and Republicans promised would bankrupt it.
I was pressed on all sides: by constituents opposed, my president needing a victory and Republicans promising my demise. I was in the country's most Republican district represented by a Democrat. I had repeatedly said, "I will not be a 'read my lips' candidate," when asked if I would promise not to raise taxes.
I voted my conscience, and it cost me.
Snip-snip
The moral of my brief political story is not that casting a tough and decisive vote necessarily predicts a bad electoral outcome for you, nor that the majority of your constituents is always wrong or always right.
It's that there are times in all our careers when we must ask ourselves why we're here. I decided that my desire for public service at that moment was greater than my desire to guarantee continued service. Yes, there are few jobs as rewarding (mostly) as being a member of Congress, and I was let down after I lost. But I believed then and now that being able to point to something tangible that changed our country for the better was a more powerful motivator than the possible electoral repercussions.
I urge you simply to cast the vote you can be proud of next week, next year and for years to come. Given the opportunity, I wouldn't change my vote.
Then again, what do I know? I was a lousy politician. "
By Marjorie Margolies
I heard her interview yesterday on NPR. She talked about a Republican from her home state of PA actually jumping up and down when she cast the vote for the Clinton budget. Jumping up and down. They were chanting, see you later Marjorie or something.
The budget that produced a huge surplus, not seen since.
She had the guts to do what must be done.
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webevintage Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:43:12pm |
re: #346 Obdicut
We have a huge cultural problem these days with people thinking that being pushy, combative, and rude is a good substitute for being firm, passionate, and incisive.
I'm feeling a bit gob smacked at the moment.
You don't keep interrupting the President.
He's the fucking President!
and then I was reading Balloon Juice and am amazed to see that Old Megan over on The Atlantic seems to have no problem with the way the teaparty folks in Ohio treated the man with Parkinson's.
I feel like an old lady, but what is this world coming too?
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avanti Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:43:29pm |
re: #359 Stanley Sea
She mentions the jumping up in down in the full story at the link, might be from the same interview.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:44:13pm |
I wish the states would just keep out of this.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:44:59pm |
Taking a break--the TV show "Mercy" has The Prodigals for their St. Patrick's
soundtrack.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:46:26pm |
Unrecognized Iwo Jima photo shows how World War II memories fading
I took a quick survey in the newsroom the other day, something between a Rorschach test and a pop quiz, asking younger colleagues to identify an iconic photograph of World War II.
While some instantly recognized the image, others couldn't quite place it.
"I know I ought to know it," one co-worker said. "It was in the movie, ‘Flags of Our Fathers.' " Some, seeing uniforms, realized it must be a war photo. Maybe Vietnam? One got the era right but the battlefield wrong. She guessed it was D-Day, not, as it was, the raising of the American flag on Iwo Jima.
Journalists are probably more attuned to history than many people. We stick bits of it into the third or fourth paragraph of a story as background to the day's events. But non-journalists have less incentive to keep up with the past, apparently not even the lure of good grades. Nearly a quarter of 17-year-olds recently surveyed by Common Core, an educational advocacy group and think tank, couldn't identify Adolf Hitler.
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TheMatrix31 Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:46:50pm |
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Jeff In Ohio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:46:55pm |
re: #360 webevintage
I'm feeling a bit gob smacked at the moment.
You don't keep interrupting the President.
He's the fucking President!and then I was reading Balloon Juice and am amazed to see that Old Megan over on The Atlantic seems to have no problem with the way the teaparty folks in Ohio treated the man with Parkinson's.
I feel like an old lady, but what is this world coming too?
McCardle is an embarrassment.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:47:03pm |
re: #360 webevintage
To Fox, he's just an uppity negro who shouldn't be in office. Only seven more years of this treatment, and then they can do their retroactive on the "historical presidency nobody else covered"...
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:47:37pm |
re: #150 SanFranciscoZionist
I don't know. I just found it, looking for clips on Jesse Owens.
Great comment...
You have to be in awe of the Orwellian scope of these conservatives...
If science has a liberal bias, then make up your own "science."
If the bible with all of that be good to poor folks stuff has a liberal bias (and it really does) then write your own "bible."
If history has a liberal bias then make up your own "history."
And now, just to insulate their minds from any inconvenient facts even more, they have their own version of youtube - to compliment their own version of news called Fox.
We have an entire sector of the nation that talks in its own dark and deranged echo chamber with furious trolls doing their best to keep out any light.
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TheMatrix31 Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:48:55pm |
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:49:03pm |
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webevintage Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:49:52pm |
re: #365 TheMatrix31
Could you imagine if Bush or Palin made a mistake like this?
They would get made fun of...just like Obama is.
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TheMatrix31 Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:50:32pm |
re: #370 darthstar
That's not even close to being funny.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:51:10pm |
Media Outlets Ignore Palestinian TV’s Incitement to Violence Against Israel
Media outlets largely ignore the incitement to violence against Israel perpetrated by official Palestinian Authority TV, which is controlled by Palestinian Chairman Mahmoud Abbas. Prominent newspapers, like the New York Times and Washington Post, which heavily cover Palestinian-Israeli matters, say nothing about PA TV's incendiary broadcasts, the content of which clearly violates existing Israeli-PA agreements on ending incitement and is an impediment to peace.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:51:41pm |
re: #372 TheMatrix31
That's not even close to being funny.
Neither are Bush or Palin. At least President Obama can laugh at himself when he makes a mistake...and admit it.
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TheMatrix31 Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:52:07pm |
re: #374 darthstar
Just another day for the saintly one.
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Velvet Elvis Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:52:40pm |
I think Obama's willingness to go on Fox comes from the same place as his willingness to hold talks with the Iranians.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:52:41pm |
re: #360 webevintage
I'm feeling a bit gob smacked at the moment.
You don't keep interrupting the President.
He's the fucking President!
He's a big boy; he can handle it. After all, it's not like he's being subjected to the brutal, withering interrogation of Katie Couric.
and then I was reading Balloon Juice and am amazed to see that Old Megan over on The Atlantic seems to have no problem with the way the teaparty folks in Ohio treated the man with Parkinson's.
I feel like an old lady, but what is this world coming too?
That was a case of assholes showing off for each other. The mob mentality at work. Not ONE of them would have had the courage to behave that way - especially in front of a camera - if it were one-on-one.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:53:03pm |
re: #374 darthstar
Neither are Bush or Palin. At least President Obama can laugh at himself when he makes a mistake...and admit it.
Ah, I've never seen Palin do it, but Bush poked fun at himself quite often.
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:53:15pm |
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TheMatrix31 Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:54:53pm |
re: #379 reine.de.tout
Seriously. That was so dumb to say. Bush laughed at himself ALL THE TIME.
Of course, the response will be "Well, he was just so stupid! He HAD to!"
Obama didn't laugh about saying we had 57 states. He said he was tired. He didn't even say ANYTHING after saying the US liberated Auschwitz.
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:56:01pm |
re: #382 TheMatrix31
Dude... what are you going on about?
You seriously think Obama gets more of a pass than Bush did from the media? Seriously?
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:56:17pm |
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Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:57:03pm |
I'm wading through the Fox interview. Bret Baier keeps interrupting Obama's answers with stuff from different questions. It's really odd. There's also some interesting body language going on. Obama seems pretty chill but Baier is bouncing around in his chair, fidgeting, scowling and often leaning forward. It's kinda funny (yet annoying).
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:57:28pm |
re: #383 Obdicut
Dude... what are you going on about?
You seriously think Obama gets more of a pass than Bush did from the media? Seriously?
By a wide margin. The press hated George Bush with a passion.
Short memory?
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albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:58:25pm |
re: #385 Killgore Trout
I'm wading through the Fox interview. Bret Baier keeps interrupting Obama's answers with stuff from different questions. It's really odd. There's also some interesting body language going on. Obama seems pretty chill but Baier is bouncing around in his chair, fidgeting, scowling and often leaning forward. It's kinda funny (yet annoying).
my kids used to do that in their high chair...jus sayin
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:59:40pm |
Germans Cringe at Hitler's Popularity in Pakistan
Germans are popular in India and Pakistan, but not always for the right reasons. Many in South Asia have nothing but admiration for Adolf Hitler and still associate Germany with the Third Reich. Everyday encounters with the love of all things Nazi makes German visitors cringe.
Pakistan is the opposite of Germany. The mountains are in the north, the sea is in the south, the economic problems are in the west and the east is doing well. It's not hard for a German living in Pakistan to get used to these differences, but one contrast is hard to stomach: Most people like Hitler.
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:00:46pm |
re: #364 NJDhockeyfan
Unrecognized Iwo Jima photo shows how World War II memories fading
Hell, it is even worse than you think, most people today can't even recognize 14th century wood-cuttings recreating scenes of the battle of Thermopylae! Where is there sense of history and the honor due for the victory of the Romans over the evil Persian empire!
/It wasn't their war...they may know of it in a general sense, but not in any detailed specifics...it did end 64 years ago after all.
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Uninformed Opinion Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:02:12pm |
re: #385 Killgore Trout
I'm wading through the Fox interview. Bret Baier keeps interrupting Obama's answers with stuff from different questions. It's really odd. There's also some interesting body language going on. Obama seems pretty chill but Baier is bouncing around in his chair, fidgeting, scowling and often leaning forward. It's kinda funny (yet annoying).
well, you have to derail him before he can get an answer out...
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:03:12pm |
re: #381 avanti
I'm guessing the pirates ruined their skivvies, but:
The two skiffs were destroyed and the pirates were set free on the mothership after it had been cleared of weapons.
Grr.
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:03:50pm |
re: #384 NJDhockeyfan
They almost became Darwin Award recipients.
In David Stone's novel The Orpheus Deception a band of Somali pirates make the mistake of hijacking a tanker that has already been hijacked by Serbian mafia. They butcher all the pirates belowdecks and then crucify the pirate leader on the bow of his cigarette boat and send it into the Indian Ocean.
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TheMatrix31 Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:04:23pm |
Well, I'd love to stay and reminisce about all the hilarious Bush-level Obama bashing that the media has done over the last couple years, but I have to grab something to eat.
Later.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:05:30pm |
Another scare arrives in city courthouse mail
For the fifth time in six days, a package containing a bullet, harmless white powder and a threatening letter was found inside the Baltimore City Circuit Courthouse, this time in a judge's chambers.
An employee discovered the package Wednesday morning on the second floor of the westside Clarence M. Mitchell Jr. Courthouse and notified the Baltimore City Sheriff's Office, which called 911 about 9:30 a.m.
The Fire Department and its hazardous materials team responded, cordoning off the front of the building with yellow caution tape while onlookers milled outside. The powder tested negative for biological materials, fire spokesman Capt. Roman L. Clark said.
The package, which wasn't addressed to a specific judge, is "now part of evidence," he added.
A similar package led to the evacuation Monday of City Hall, and four other threatening letters have arrived at the courthouse since Friday. All of them were addressed to Circuit Court judges, including Administrative Judge Marcella M. Holland.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:05:30pm |
Ok, the interview is high comedy if you can manage to wade through it. There are a couple of really good belly laughs in there.
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:05:47pm |
re: #396 TheMatrix31
Perhaps it'll calm you down a bit?
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:06:58pm |
re: #392 ausador
It wasn't their war...they may know of it in a general sense, but not in any detailed specifics...it did end 64 years ago after all.
* There are people alive today who were directly involved, many who were children at the time.
* The events surrounding WWII created a tidal wave of consequences that are STILL playing out. The primary actors are all dead and gone, but it will be a long time still before the effects that particular bit of history are no longer evident in our present.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:08:13pm |
re: #398 Killgore Trout
Even Obama starts laughing at the end. It's pretty ridiculous.
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Randall Gross Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:10:50pm |
Hey Walter, if you are out there I recommend this book after you finish the new one you are reading.
[Link: www.amazon.com...]
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:11:13pm |
Violence Prompts Debate Over Medical Marijuana
SEATTLE — A shooting and a beating death linked to medical marijuana have prompted new calls by law enforcement officials and marijuana advocates for Washington State to change how it regulates the drug and protects those who grow and use it.
In the past week, a man in Orting, Wash., near Tacoma, died after he reportedly was beaten while confronting people trying to steal marijuana plants from his property. On Monday, a prominent medical-marijuana activist shot an armed man who is accused of breaking into his home in a suburban area near Seattle where he grows and distributes marijuana plants.
On Tuesday, the police arrested five people on robbery charges in connection with the shooting incident. One of those arrested is in critical condition after being shot by Steve Sarich, who runs a group called CannaCare out of his house. Mr. Sarich suffered minor wounds from a shotgun blast fired by the intruder he shot.
The crimes are the most violent that advocates and law enforcement officials said they could recall involving medical marijuana in Washington. In both cases, they said, the victims appear to have been chosen because they were known to have relatively large amounts of marijuana in their homes. They say the crimes underscore conflicts in state policy that have become evident since Washington legalized medical marijuana in 1998.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:13:22pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:14:54pm |
Saudis may allow Israel’s use of air space
Western security sources believe Saudi Arabia will readily let Israel use the country’s airspace to strike neighboring Iran if a war breaks out between the archenemies, APA reports quoting “Al Jazeera”.
Prominent German news magazine SPIEGEL claimed in a Tuesday article that there exists a strong unity between Israel and Persian Gulf’s Arab states against Iran.
The periodical noted that Riyadh has gone so far with the idea as to speak openly to US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton of the potential need for a military option against the Islamic Republic.
SPIEGEl also cited Western intelligence agencies who believe that the Saudis would even open up their air space to Israeli jets for an attack on Iran.
This is while the United States has been reported intent on not allowing Israeli warplanes to fly over Iraq, it added.
The report also referred to an Arab League ministerial summit where they unanimously called on the Palestinians to start a new round of US-sponsored "proximity talks" with Israel.
Observers reiterate that SPIEGEl is greatly influenced by the Israeli regime and has previously published reports that were meant to serve as an Israeli propaganda campaign ore psychological warfare against the Islamic Republic.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:17:20pm |
re: #318 Obdicut
Nifty. Well, you and SFZ are invited to our pre-wedding BBQ, that's on June 18th, day before the wedding. If nothing else, I could see you then. But it'd be nice to do something slightly more relaxed than that, too.
Whoo!! I would like that, and should be out of school then. Contact me with details closer to the date, eh?
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:17:46pm |
re: #382 TheMatrix31
He didn't even say ANYTHING after saying the US liberated Auschwitz.
Except of course when he admitted he was wrong. Grow the fuck up Matrix, and stop lying.
Obama's campaign said the candidate meant to say that his great-uncle, Charlie Payne, had helped liberate a part of the Buchenwald camp, not Auschwitz.
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:17:59pm |
re: #400 negativ
* There are people alive today who were directly involved, many who were children at the time.
* The events surrounding WWII created a tidal wave of consequences that are STILL playing out. The primary actors are all dead and gone, but it will be a long time still before the effects that particular bit of history are no longer evident in our present.
So therefore everyone alive today should recognize pictures from Iwo Jima?
The post seemed to find people at fault for not doing so, my point was that many of those probably know a bit about the basic issues of WWII and of it's conduct and turning points. To expect them to recognize photos and identify the specific battle that they came from is stretching it a bit. Not everyone is old enough to remember, or enough of a history buff to instantly recognize 60 year old photos and place them in context.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:18:04pm |
re: #404 rwdflynavy
I thought ganja was supposed to chill folks out?
You have to smoke it first. Just stealing it to sell at black market prices doesn't calm you down.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:19:37pm |
re: #402 Thanos
Hey Walter, if you are out there I recommend this book after you finish the new one you are reading.
[Link: www.amazon.com...]
Got it. Just started "Miri, Who Charms" (Joanne Greenberg) this afternoon. Joanne is back in her stride. Her last book, Appearances, where as a really good plot idea, and very serious subject matter (pedophilia), the text itself was not tight, not full of her usual well constructed paragraphs, full of very vivid descriptions. Even her dialog was stilted.
I know while she was writing Appearances, she was not feeling well for a good year (she's 78 now), but this last year she has been back in the "saddle" so to speak, spunky, eyes bright again, alive again.
She even told me that she is getting a computer, and email address and she now has a web site. I asked her if she is going to start to write using a computer, she said no. She still writes long hand on a yellow pad.
As long as there is literature, the world is good.
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simoom Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:19:52pm |
re: #383 Obdicut
Dude... what are you going on about?
He seems to believe that Obama, who while writing his picks pronounced Syracuse correctly repeatedly, makes a habit of spelling the city as Sycasuse (sahy-ka-soos).
Sure, he mangled it as he wrote his picks and discussed the teams at the same time, but he also corrected it, apologized to the viewers, and joked about it when the error was pointed out to him.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:20:35pm |
re: #403 NJDhockeyfan
Interesting tid bit I read today. The winner of the Iditarod - Lane Mackey (4th year consecutive) is a throat cancer survivor who went through radiation & has a medical marijuana card. In the past has openly smoked during the race.
Iditarod rules committee to declare that this year they would enforce — for the first time — a 26-year-old rule banning marijuana use by mushers. It’s worth noting that growing dope for personal use is legal in Alaska.
So he won it sober.
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:21:26pm |
re: #411 simoom
Heh, it "NUCULAR" dummy, the 's' is silent!
/
;)
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albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:21:30pm |
re: #409 negativ
You have to smoke it first. Just stealing it to sell at black market prices doesn't calm you down.
just the thought of a smouldering fatty calms me down...maybe some palm trees etc
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:24:26pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:27:31pm |
re: #389 NJDhockeyfan
To be fair, there are also many Indians (non Muslims, I mean) who are passionate admirers of Hitler. And showing the swastika in candles, given that it has no Nazi connection, seems a little shabby.
That said, I can only imagine how much hearing this shit must freak a German visitor out.
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:27:42pm |
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:28:15pm |
re: #415 NJDhockeyfan
America and Israel try to offer peace, Hamas sends another class into the meat grinder. Hamas has made its decision and announced it. But will Obama listen?
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:30:32pm |
NATO tanker attacked, burnt in Landikotal
LANDIKOTAL: A bomb attack blew up a NATO oil tanker at the Wali Khel area of Landikotal in the Khyber Agency on Wednesday. According to official sources, the tanker was carrying 44,000 litres of oil to NATO troops in Afghanistan. “There were no casualties in the blast. The bomb had been fitted to the oil tanker, which caught fire after the bomb went off,” the sources said. The blast resulted in the main Pak-Afghan Highway staying blocked for several hours.
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Escaped Hillbilly Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:32:43pm |
re: #403 NJDhockeyfan
Hah-ha. So when the previously predicted violence breaks out, the advocates of legal marijuana want more changes to the law. Obviously to protect them. They'll get it too. This country has lost all perspective. Sounds like the law already moved to protect the owner of the legal grower. Arrests have been made. But I guess that's not enough. I know, lets legalize all marijuana so those poor thieves won't have to break into other people's homes to get it. Ugh. Of course they'll become law abiding and respect others' property overnight.
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:34:15pm |
re: #420 Escaped Hillbilly
Heh, cause the war on drugs has been so successful...
;)
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Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:35:02pm |
Smithsonian Opens Human Evolution Hall
$21-Million Exhibit Includes Only Neanderthal Skeleton in U.S.; Curator Says Compatible with Religious Perspectives
Hundreds of early human fossils, artifacts and forensically recreated faces of mankind's prehistoric relatives went on display Wednesday, exploring 6 million years of evolution at the National Museum of Natural History.
The nearly $21 million Hall of Human Origins marks the 100th anniversary of the Smithsonian Institution museum and represents the most comprehensive look at human evolution since its opening.
...
A "morphing station" allows visitors to have their photos transformed into how they might have looked as early humans and e-mail a copy to themselves. Former Sen. Bill Frist, who is on the museum's board, was among the first to try it out.Casts and fossil scans also allow visitors to see key discoveries from recent decades. Lucy, the world's most famous fossil, has a corner. She is a 3.2 million-year-old early human who walked upright and climbed trees.
...
Most funding for the exhibit came from billionaire David H. Koch, executive vice president of Kansas-based energy company Koch Industries Inc. Koch, who was the Libertarian Party's vice presidential candidate in 1980 and donates to conservative causes, gave $15 million to fund the project.The group Greenpeace staged a small protest outside the museum Wednesday with signs saying Koch is "wanted for climate crimes." They handed out fliers saying Koch also funds projects denying climate change.
Museum director Cristian Samper said Koch was keenly interested in science and committed to the museum's research.
Physicist Peter Buck, co-founder of Subway restaurants, also gave $15 million to fund ongoing research of humanity's origins and to begin new education programs tied to the exhibit.
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Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:36:37pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:37:08pm |
Stuck in a hotel room on St. Patrick's Day.
WTF?
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:37:17pm |
re: #408 ausador
So therefore everyone alive today should recognize pictures from Iwo Jima?
The post seemed to find people at fault for not doing so, my point was that many of those probably know a bit about the basic issues of WWII and of it's conduct and turning points. To expect them to recognize photos and identify the specific battle that they came from is stretching it a bit. Not everyone is old enough to remember, or enough of a history buff to instantly recognize 60 year old photos and place them in context.
That particular photo is iconic and should be recognized by a group of presumably educated people--professional journalists--not just some random high school kids.
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Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:38:10pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:38:18pm |
re: #425 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Stuck in a hotel room on St. Patrick's Day.
WTF?
Me too. Happy St. Patrick's Day to ya!
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:38:22pm |
The thing that really chaps my ass is the people who want to slash the military budget and again create a weak, ill equipped, and understaffed armed services.
I guess they have not learned any of the lessons from the previous two times that we did that, or from the 65 year peace among the western nations our strength has enabled (caused?).
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:38:37pm |
The Known Universe
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:39:01pm |
re: #422 Gus 802
Physicist Peter Buck, co-founder of Subway restaurants.....
Physicist, Subway founder & guitarist for REM.
Dude gets around!
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:39:51pm |
re: #431 Stanley Sea
Physicist, Subway founder & guitarist for REM.
Dude gets around!
Who says there are no more Renaissance men?
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jaunte Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:39:55pm |
I was looking at the Irish Times website today, reading about St. Patrick's Day parades, when I happened across this Martyn Turner editorial cartoon referring to 'Lebensraum' in Jerusalem.
Is it an ordinary thing in Europe to suggest that Israeli policy = Nazi policy, or is this just a unique piece of bad judgment?
[Link: www.irishtimes.com...]
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:40:28pm |
re: #431 Stanley Sea
Physicist, Subway founder & guitarist for REM.
Dude gets around!
Different Peter Buck.
;)
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:40:38pm |
Fresh Sectarian Violence Leaves 12 Dead In Central Nigeria
At least twelve people have been killed after a group of suspected Muslim herdsmen attacked a mostly Christian village near the central Nigerian city of Jos, where hundreds of people have died in sectarian violence in the recent months, said officials and witnesses on Wednesday.
The raid targeted the mostly Christian village of Byei in the Riyom area, located some 30 kilometers south of Jos. Witnesses said that the raiders, who were disguised as soldiers, launched the attack early Wednesday under the cover of darkness and heavy rain.
Officials said the attackers cut down the villagers using machetes and set fire to houses. Villagers said most victims of the attack were women and children, indicating that the security forces were too late in arriving at the village.
Wednesday's attack comes just days after over 200 people, mostly Christians, were killed in a similar attack on villages in the suburbs of Jos last week. Most of the victims in the attack were reportedly Christians from the Berom group, while the perpetrators are believed to be from the mainly Muslim Fulani group. The attack appeared to be in retaliation to the slaughter of some 400 Muslims in the villages around Jos in January.
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wrenchwench Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:40:51pm |
re: #422 Gus 802
Curator Says Compatible with Religious Perspectives
I don't see an explanation of that in the article. It distinctly says
exploring 6 million years of evolution
...not 6,000 years.
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:42:44pm |
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:43:25pm |
re: #408 ausador
Yes, they should. The flag-raising photo is ICONIC.
They should also recognize this picture:
Image: 1936NurembergRally[1].jpg
(and should be able to realize that there was no clone tool in those days)
and this one:
Image: hitler-eiffel-tower.jpg
and this one:
Image: artwork_images_141083_437993_robert-capa.jpg
and this one:
Image: 24-pearl-harbor-memorial-hawaii-9-8-2001.jpg
and this one:
Image: 039japanbeheading_468x620.jpg
and this one:
Image: 798.jpg
and many others far too awful to post here. It doesn't matter if they can't pin down the date, or the exact GPS coordinates. People (especially art students, but that's another rant entirely) should instantly be able to recognize what these images mean.
The events they depict matter. Not just out of respect for our ancestors, but because they have a direct effect on life today. Importantly, they should be understood because all of that stuff, dressed up slightly differently, happened several times before WWII, and there's no reason to expect it can't happen again.
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Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:43:39pm |
re: #436 wrenchwench
...not 6,000 years.
Quite a contrast. Funny, the article states, "Curator Says Compatible with Religious Perspectives" but it's not mentioned in the body of the article.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:43:56pm |
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:43:58pm |
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Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:44:17pm |
re: #429 ausador
The thing that really chaps my ass is the people who want to slash the military budget and again create a weak, ill equipped, and understaffed armed services.
I guess they have not learned any of the lessons from the previous two times that we did that, or from the 65 year peace among the western nations our strength has enabled (caused?).
I think these are dangerous times for our future. In the past the Republicans have been the hawks and have been largely responsible for keeping our military in shape. We are now faced with the rise of the Paulians and Tea Parties. They would love to reduce us to Coast Guard and local civilian militias. The Neocons are effectively out of the Republican party. Let's hope the Dems can take up the mantle of national security while the Republicans go nuts for a few decades.
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albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:44:21pm |
re: #432 SanFranciscoZionist
Who says there are no more Renaissance men?
Queen's Brian May got his PhD in astrophysics (I think)....but everybody knows that I guess
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Escaped Hillbilly Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:44:37pm |
re: #421 Varek Raith
I have a prepared rant for that, but I have to run back to class and don't want to hit and run. Night all.
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Daniel Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:44:47pm |
re: #362 Walter L. Newton
A clear case of premature....
Outrage.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:44:58pm |
French law drives country’s first television wine channel into exile
You might think that French officials would have raised their glasses in celebration of a project to create the first Gallic television channel dedicated to wine.
Instead, they appear intent on driving the station into exile, possibly to Britain, after deciding that it will fall foul of the toughest laws on alcohol promotion outside the Muslim world.
Edonys, a private group which hopes to start broadcasting later this year, has been warned by France’s Higher Audiovisual Council that it will receive authorisation only if it drops plans for programmes featuring wine-tastings and expert discussions. The broadcasting authority deemed these illegal under a law that prohibits “all direct or indirect propaganda in favour of alcoholic drinks” on television.
However, the station is refusing to amend its schedule and executives are now looking for a base outside France. Britain, Luxembourg and Belgium are among the options.
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:45:01pm |
re: #445 Escaped Hillbilly
I have a prepared rant for that, but I have to run back to class and don't want to hit and run. Night all.
Next time, then?
:)
Night!
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:45:41pm |
re: #344 webevintage
Once again the President looked cool and calm in the face of complete disrespect from Baier.
Which many view as a sign of weakness. Alpha males are not considerate and polite in the face of rudeness.
:p
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simoom Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:45:53pm |
re: #398 Killgore Trout
Ok, the interview is high comedy if you can manage to wade through it. There are a couple of really good belly laughs in there.
The one surprise for me was how Baier refered to the "Florida deal", or the "Montana deal" instead of using the FNC / GOP pet names for the various earmarks. The "Hospital Handout", the "Vermont Special", the "Florida Windfall", etc :P.
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wrenchwench Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:46:04pm |
re: #439 Gus 802
Quite a contrast. Funny, the article states, "Curator Says Compatible with Religious Perspectives" but it's not mentioned in the body of the article.
Something must have been edited out after the headline was written. Sloppy work.
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brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:46:33pm |
re: #449 oaktree
Which many view as a sign of weakness. Alpha males are not considerate and polite in the face of rudeness.
:p
/GRUNT...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:46:33pm |
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Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:46:45pm |
re: #451 wrenchwench
Something must have been edited out after the headline was written. Sloppy work.
Yeah, pretty strange. I find it in Google but then when I go to the articles I find no mention of it.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:46:59pm |
re: #431 Stanley Sea
Physicist, Subway founder & guitarist for REM.
Dude gets around!
A veritable Buckaroo Bonzai, if you will.
Stay awhile, enjoy the watermelon.
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Daniel Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:47:24pm |
re: #447 NJDhockeyfan
A pirate TV station off the coast? That would be rich.
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:47:45pm |
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avanti Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:48:21pm |
re: #450 simoom
The one surprise for me was how Baier refered to the "Florida deal", or the "Montana deal" instead of using the FNC / GOP pet names for the various earmarks. The "Hospital Handout", the "Vermont Special", the "Florida Windfall", etc :P.
Here's another blogs take on the interview:
"The clip below shows the totalitarian instincts of Barack Hussein Obama. Rather than be a man and answer the questions about his Eugenics based Health Care ideas, he throws a kiddie tantrum. This is typical of 3rd World despots who are really spoiled kids that never grew up. Obama’s dismissive attitude brings shame to the Office of the President of the United States. We can do better than this Progressive wannabe be Dictator."
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:49:11pm |
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Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:49:22pm |
re: #447 NJDhockeyfan
a curious statistic....
— In public health terms the legislation has been a success. The French consume an average of 11.6 litres of alcohol each, compared with 15.4 litres 20 years ago
Is that per week or a month? It's certainly not daily or yearly.
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MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:49:39pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:50:28pm |
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wrenchwench Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:50:40pm |
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brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:50:50pm |
re: #463 Killgore Trout
a curious statistic...
Is that per week or a month? It's certainly not daily or yearly.
HAPPY HOUR...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:51:10pm |
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:51:23pm |
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MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:51:56pm |
re: #447 NJDhockeyfan
French law drives country’s first television wine channel into exile
What's next? Italy forbids the discussion of shoes?
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:51:57pm |
re: #458 avanti
Here's another blogs take on the interview:
"The clip below shows the totalitarian instincts of Barack Hussein Obama. Rather than be a man and answer the questions about his Eugenics based Health Care ideas, he throws a kiddie tantrum. This is typical of 3rd World despots who are really spoiled kids that never grew up. Obama’s dismissive attitude brings shame to the Office of the President of the United States. We can do better than this Progressive wannabe be Dictator."
OMG!!! OBAMA IS LIKE HITLER!!1 hEAD FOR THE HILLZ!11 BUY GOLD!!1 BUY SURVIVAL SEEDS!!11
[Runs around screaming]
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MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:52:29pm |
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:52:36pm |
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:52:45pm |
re: #477 Dark_Falcon
OMG!!! OBAMA IS LIKE HITLER!!1 hEAD FOR THE HILLZ!11 BUY GOLD!!1 BUY SURVIVAL SEEDS!!11
[Runs around screaming]
Dammit, we should buy an bunker and rent it out to these nutters.
:)
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Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:52:58pm |
re: #451 wrenchwench
Something must have been edited out after the headline was written. Sloppy work.
OK, it's written up at the official website:
Human Origins Initiative Broader Social Impacts Committee
The Challenges Posed by Evolution - Rick Potts, Director of the Human Origins Program
In the vibrant scientific field of human evolution, new discoveries and research findings are regularly reported as lead stories in newspapers and other media. Despite strong public interest, however, many people find the idea of human evolution troubling when viewed from a religious perspective. While polarized public opinion on the matter is the usual focus, the diversity of contemporary religious responses to evolution is less recognized. These responses point to opportunities for a productive relationship between science and religion without assuming a conflict between the scientific evidence of human evolution and religious beliefs.
There are a number of different approaches to the science-religion relationship. One approach is to see science and religion as separate domains that ask different questions focusing on separate interests in human life – for example, about the natural world in science and about God in religion. This approach depends on respecting and maintaining the distinctions but can sometimes overlook the ways in which scientific interpretations may have an effect on religious beliefs. Conflict is seen to arise when efforts are made to eliminate the separation that the first approach assumes. The strongest conflicts develop when either science or religion asserts a standard of truth to which the other must adhere or otherwise be dismissed. An alternative approach sees interaction or engagement as positive. Engagement takes many forms, including personal efforts by individuals to integrate scientific and religious understandings, statements by religious organizations that affirm and even celebrate the scientific findings, and constructive interactions between theologians and scientists seeking common ground, respect, and shared insight into how the science of human evolution contributes to an awareness of what it means to be human.
(continues)
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:53:25pm |
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Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:53:54pm |
Wine consumption (most recent) by country
The average Frenchy drinks 47 liters a year. That sounds about right.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:54:14pm |
re: #481 Varek Raith
Dammit, we should buy an bunker and rent it out to these nutters.
:)
As long as we can lock it from the outside once they're in there. Then we can keep them on ice till they settle down.
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Soap_Man Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:54:26pm |
So, some asked me to come back with an update and here it is:
Surgery went fine. I knew it would because, as I said, it was relatively minor. They had to remove a small, non-cancerous growth. No biggie.
I got home from the hospital at 1 p.m. Because of the anesthesia, I just woke up 30 minutes ago! :)
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:54:30pm |
re: #461 Soap_Man
You go under the knife or something today? All a-ok?
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brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:54:47pm |
re: #481 Varek Raith
Dammit, we should buy an bunker and rent it out to these nutters.
:)
may sure we get the rent in gold :)
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MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:55:16pm |
re: #469 wrenchwench
Just don't snap his suspenders...
Couldn't resist. You'd have to duct-tape my hands.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:55:23pm |
re: #486 Soap_Man
Read my mind. Good that all went well.
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:55:36pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:55:49pm |
Call to mark ‘day of rage’ against Israel
DOHA: The International Union for Muslim Scholars (IUMS) led by the celebrated Qatar-based cleric Dr Yusuf Al Qaradawi, has called on Muslims all over the world, including here, to observe ‘Rage and Solidarity Day’ against Israel tomorrow.
The IUMS has urged imams all over the world, including Qatar, to decry Israeli plans to build a Jewish temple within the precincts of Al Aqsa Mosque in their Friday sermons.
An IUMS statement said yesterday Israel’s temple plan eventually aims at razing Al Aqsa Mosque, Islam’s third holiest site, and building a Third Structure over its debris.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:56:05pm |
I had three beers in my hotel room. Don't want to go back out.
Three beers on St. Patrick's day? There oughta be a law agin' it.
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MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:56:07pm |
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:56:36pm |
re: #435 NJDhockeyfan
And it is not yet another chapter in an endless cycle of violence, either. It's the fruit of the Wahabbist fundamentalism that the Saudis exported there over the years.
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brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:56:37pm |
re: #491 Varek Raith
Indeed! Hmmm, anything else missing?
security deposit... kids & pets can really damage a bunker...
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:56:43pm |
re: #492 NJDhockeyfan
Isn't every day a "Day of Rage"? If they declared a "Day of Calm" that would be newsworthy.
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MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:56:48pm |
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jaunte Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:57:10pm |
re: #484 Killgore Trout
Wine consumption (most recent) by country
The average Frenchy drinks 47 liters a year. That sounds about right.
Map that list against life expectancy by country, and we may have a clue about how to last longer.
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:57:30pm |
Irish joke, apologies if it's already been done:
So two Irish guys leave a bar. . .
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MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:57:36pm |
re: #497 Alouette
Isn't every day a "Day of Rage"? If they declared a "Day of Calm" that would be newsworthy.
"Man Bites Dog".
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KingKenrod Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:57:45pm |
re: #385 Killgore Trout
I'm wading through the Fox interview. Bret Baier keeps interrupting Obama's answers with stuff from different questions. It's really odd. There's also some interesting body language going on. Obama seems pretty chill but Baier is bouncing around in his chair, fidgeting, scowling and often leaning forward. It's kinda funny (yet annoying).
Baier's out of his league. I don't think there are any good interviewers left at Fox. They probably should have let Brit Hume or Chris Wallace do it.
But I don't care if Baier or anyone else interrupts Obama, the nation's chief executive ought to be grilled whenever the opportunity comes up. It's just sad Baier can't do it with any skill.
BTW, when was Obama's last press conference?
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:57:59pm |
re: #498 MandyManners
Hamas is calling for the Third Intifada.
When did the Second Intifada end? Or for that matter the First one?
Or are there now Three Intifadas running simultaneously?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:58:34pm |
Can I tell my Paddy O'Furniture joke again?
Oh. Never mind.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:58:39pm |
re: #486 Soap_Man
Congratulations.
May all of your difficulties, resolve so easily!
(SoapMan)
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MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:59:09pm |
re: #503 Alouette
When did the Second Intifada end? Or for that matter the First one?
Or are there now Three Intifadas running simultaneously?
Maybe Microsoft will come up with a program to keep track of these things.
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:59:10pm |
Hamas is intent on having the thunder dropped onto their heads. Let 'em.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:59:11pm |
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brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:59:28pm |
re: #497 Alouette
Isn't every day a "Day of Rage"? If they declared a "Day of Calm" that would be newsworthy.
well don't expect it any time soon.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:59:43pm |
re: #508 Floral Giraffe
I hope you find one of those in your Easter Basket!
Uh... those ain't eggs...
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 5:59:45pm |
LA County Sheriff Baca in US House shouting match
Sheriff Lee Baca was telling a Homeland Security subcommittee about staying on positive terms with the Muslim community. Republican Congressman Mark Souder of Indiana questioned Baca’s relationship with the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), which he implied helped groups that call for the destruction of Israel.
Souder said "there’s a substantial difference between protected speech and government officials going to fundraisers for organizations that do speech that is radical. And Sheriff Baca, you’ve been 10 times to the fundraisers for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, which even the FBI has separated themselves from."
Baca interrupted, saying "and I’ll be there 10 more times."
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:00:24pm |
Bottle of Jameson. Check.
Guinness Draught. Check.
Cabbage. Check.
Corned Beef...Corned Beef? Bueller?
Reservations. Check.
Oh well, I'll just have to make Corned Beef next week.
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MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:00:28pm |
re: #508 Floral Giraffe
I hope you find one of those in your Easter Basket!
I do believe in the Easter Bunny.
I do believe in the Easter Bunny.
I do believe in the Easter Bunny.
I do. I do. I do.
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brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:01:00pm |
re: #506 MandyManners
Maybe Microsoft will come up with a program to keep track of these things.
/I am ready for a microsoft intifada at this point...
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albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:01:35pm |
re: #502 KingKenrod
Baier's out of his league. I don't think there are any good interviewers left at Fox. They probably should have let Brit Hume or Chris Wallace do it.
But I don't care if Baier or anyone else interrupts Obama, the nation's chief executive ought to be grilled whenever the opportunity comes up. It's just sad Baier can't do it with any skill.
BTW, when was Obama's last press conference?
last July, I believe....not long ago in BO Time
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:01:50pm |
re: #493 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I had three beers in my hotel room. Don't want to go back out.
Three beers on St. Patrick's day? There oughta be a law agin' it.
Only three?
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:01:57pm |
re: #449 oaktree
Which many view as a sign of weakness. Alpha males are not considerate and polite in the face of rudeness.
:p
Sure they are. Ever seen an alpha wolf when the cubs start playing 'hunt' with his tail? Totally relaxed...oh, yow, ya got me again guys...take it easy on your old man...
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Varek Raith Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:02:00pm |
re: #514 brookly red
/I am ready for a microsoft intifada at this point...
Hmm, wouldn't Apple be the one to issue one? Being an oppressed blah blah blah, and all.
/
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:02:01pm |
re: #513 MandyManners
LOL!
He'd look good in bunny ears, too!
Heck, he'd look best in his birthday suit!
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MJ Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:02:40pm |
For Israel and America, a Disagreement, Not a Crisis
Michael B. Oren
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:02:41pm |
re: #492 NJDhockeyfan
Is it wrong to want one of those press conferences announcing a "Day of Rage" to be interrupted by a Hellfire missile?
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wrenchwench Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:02:44pm |
re: #482 Gus 802
Thank you! You are quite the fact-monger.
I don't have time to read that now, but I'm on the watch for non-scientific BS being generated with tax dollars.
I was very annoyed when I listened to a volunteer park ranger speculate about a raven and a lizard actually being sorcerers or ancient people with a spell cast upon them or something. He thought he was entertaining, I thought he was poisoning people's minds. Since he was a volunteer, I guess it wasn't tax dollars, but it was at a National Monument.
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Aye Pod Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:02:54pm |
re: #331 darthstar
"I know you don't like to filibuster but..." That's when the President should say, "Did you want an interview, or are you just trying to score points?"
Fuck you, Baier.
Just watched it. What a wanker. The interview Fox showed after it has Baier and co spinning his obvious dickheadery as best they could - 'it was that nasty Obama who made me look bad with his tricksy Washington ways'.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:03:11pm |
re: #506 MandyManners
Maybe Microsoft will come up with a program to keep track of these things.
Well, since Microsoft products do have a tendency to commit the software equivalent of suicide bombing, that would be darkly appropriate.
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MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:03:56pm |
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simoom Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:04:15pm |
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MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:04:30pm |
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Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:04:36pm |
re: #502 KingKenrod
BTW, when was Obama's last press conference?
Good question. It's been a while since I've seen one. Either he's not doing them or they just aren't being televised.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:05:05pm |
Jordanian king calls for action on Jerusalem
KING ABDULLAH of Jordan added to pressure on Israel over its settlements policy yesterday, demanding that the international community take firm action over what he called the “red line” of Jerusalem.The king, a close ally of the US and Britain, demanded “firm, swift, direct and effective action to stop Israel’s provocative measures in Jerusalem that seek to change its identity and threaten holy sites”.
“Jerusalem is a red line and the world should not be silent about Israel’s attempts to get rid of Jerusalem’s Arab residents, Muslims or Christians,” the king told the EU foreign policy chief, Catherine Ashton, according to a palace statement.
| 530 |
The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:05:14pm |
Did this get posted yet? (haven't read the whole thread, apologies if it's been seen)
Video: Tea Partiers Mock And Scorn Apparent Parkinson's Victim
Video shot by the Columbus Dispatch from today's Honk and Wave in Support of Health Care at Congresswoman Mary Jo Kilroy's district office contains a segment wherein the teabaggers mock and scorn an apparent Parkinsen's victim telling him "he's in the wrong end of town to ask for handouts", calling him a communist and throwing money at him to "pay for his health care".
Segment starts around :51.
The whole rally looks pretty ugly.
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MJ Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:05:30pm |
From today's daily State Depart. briefing:
QUESTION: So how is the – Prime Minister Netanyahu’s phone call to the Secretary? Did – how’d it go? Did he come up with positive responses to her recommendations, suggestions, demands that she made to him on Friday?
MR. TONER: Well, thanks for asking, Matt. We’re still looking forward to a response. It hasn’t happened yet. There hasn’t been a call yet. But as Secretary – we’re really in no – we’re really in the same place we were yesterday. As Secretary Clinton said, we’re engaged in active consultation and we’re looking for, really, both sides to represent – to demonstrate the requisite commitment to this process.
QUESTION: Well –
QUESTION: Do you think you’ll get one today, a call today? I mean it’s already in the evening there now.
MR. TONER: Well, she’s up in the air. So it’s hard to predict.
QUESTION: Well, so she’s just basically sitting there by the phone like a lonely teenager on Saturday night waiting to Bibi to give her a call. Is that the impression you’re trying to leave us with?
MR. TONER: I think I said we’re looking forward to a response. I didn’t say waiting expectantly by the phone.
QUESTION: Well, why didn’t the call –
MR. TONER: And in fact, she’s not waiting by the phone. She’s on her way to Russia where she’ll meet with her Quartet partners.
QUESTION: Why didn’t the call happen? What’s your understanding of why the call didn’t happen. I mean we were told to expect it by now.
MR. TONER: I truly don’t know, Matt.
QUESTION: And so is this why Vice President Biden felt the need to call Prime Minister Netanyahu, to ask him why he’s not calling the Secretary of State back?
MR. TONER: You’ll have to ask the Vice President’s office.
QUESTION: Do you know anything about that call?
MR. TONER: I don’t.
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keloyd Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:05:44pm |
re: #523 Jimmah
and what's up with the choice of reporter? Brit Hume is the adult over at Fox. He or Shep Smith are useful, smart, no nonsense journalists when they want to be.
Obama did some typical politician overgeneralized nonresponses, but the badgering by that poor outclassed reporter didn't help.
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blueraven Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:06:08pm |
re: #304 NJDhockeyfan
FACT CHECK: Premiums would rise under Obama plan
This is from the AP.
(AP = Associated Press, not the Alternative Press)
//
The headline seems a bit mis-leading. The bottom line from the article:
"People are likely to not buy the same low-value policies they are buying now," said health economist Len Nichols of George Mason University. "If they did buy the same value plans ... the premium would be lower than it is now. This makes the White House statement true. But is it possibly misleading for some people? Sure."
| 534 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:06:24pm |
| 535 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:06:49pm |
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Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:06:55pm |
re: #522 wrenchwench
Thank you! You are quite the fact-monger.
I don't have time to read that now, but I'm on the watch for non-scientific BS being generated with tax dollars.
I was very annoyed when I listened to a volunteer park ranger speculate about a raven and a lizard actually being sorcerers or ancient people with a spell cast upon them or something. He thought he was entertaining, I thought he was poisoning people's minds. Since he was a volunteer, I guess it wasn't tax dollars, but it was at a National Monument.
Ancient people under a spell? Now that's something. I don't know if that's "local color" or some kind of mental escapade. Perhaps he was watching too much Sabrina the Teenage Witch.
The Koch exhibit looks on the level. I am struck a bit though about the mention of religion though. It's almost like they're trying to justify it's existence there. Of course, the only people that showed up to protest was Greenpeace against the Koch brothers.
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:06:58pm |
re: #517 SanFranciscoZionist
Sure they are. Ever seen an alpha wolf when the cubs start playing 'hunt' with his tail? Totally relaxed...oh, yow, ya got me again guys...take it easy on your old man...
There used to be a great fathers day card out there, showing a male lion wincing in pain and irritation, as a cub bites his tushie.
| 538 |
Wozza Matter? Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:07:11pm |
re: #532 keloyd
Baier is a hack by any other networks standards - that he is one of FNC's best does not speak well.
| 539 |
Varek Raith Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:07:23pm |
re: #534 albusteve
another case of STFU...this guy has no claim to any public opinion
Yep, just grandstanding to show his local populace how tough he is, or some such bull shit.
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KingKenrod Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:07:29pm |
re: #528 Killgore Trout
Good question. It's been a while since I've seen one. Either he's not doing them or they just aren't being televised.
Looks like he spent 30 minutes taking questions on Feb 9. Health Care questions.
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MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:07:29pm |
re: #502 KingKenrod
Baier's out of his league. I don't think there are any good interviewers left at Fox. They probably should have let Brit Hume or Chris Wallace do it.
But I don't care if Baier or anyone else interrupts Obama, the nation's chief executive ought to be grilled whenever the opportunity comes up. It's just sad Baier can't do it with any skill.
BTW, when was Obama's last press conference?
After a year in office, Mr. Obama has managed to do what every modern president may have wanted to do but never did: effectively shut out the reporters who work just a few feet from the Oval Office. He has not had a full-scale White House news conference in seven months, the longest such stretch by any president in a decade. And he has made a practice of not taking reporters’ questions at day-to-day events, as other presidents did.
SNIP
Freakin' narcissist.
| 542 |
jaunte Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:07:48pm |
re: #528 Killgore Trout
Good question. It's been a while since I've seen one. Either he's not doing them or they just aren't being televised.
Back in February. There was a 7 month hiatus before that one.
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Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:08:03pm |
re: #530 iceweasel
Did this get posted yet? (haven't read the whole thread, apologies if it's been seen)
Video: Tea Partiers Mock And Scorn Apparent Parkinson's Victim
Segment starts around :51.
The whole rally looks pretty ugly.
Yeah, I aw that this afternoon. What a bunch of pigs. No surprise though considering one of their idols ridiculed Michael J. Fox.
| 544 |
MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:08:11pm |
re: #519 Floral Giraffe
LOL!
He'd look good in bunny ears, too!
Heck, he'd look best in his birthday suit!
He'd look good in my sheets.
| 545 |
darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:08:28pm |
re: #523 Jimmah
Just watched it. What a wanker. The interview Fox showed after it has Baier and co spinning his obvious dickheadery as best they could - 'it was that nasty Obama who made me look bad with his tricksy Washington ways'.
Yeah...why couldn't he break into a rage and shout at Baier? This calm confidence he keeps showing when we have him on negates all the nasty shit we keep saying about him! Waaa!
Okay...the missus just called. She's fifteen miles away and wants to meet at the Mountain House for dinner. Whoo-hoo!
See you later, alligators.
| 546 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:08:30pm |
re: #540 KingKenrod
Looks like he spent 30 minutes taking questions on Feb 9. Health Care questions.
just watering the plants :)
| 547 |
MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:08:45pm |
re: #524 negativ
Well, since Microsoft products do have a tendency to commit the software equivalent of suicide bombing, that would be darkly appropriate.
I've never had a problem.
| 548 |
Varek Raith Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:09:12pm |
Is not being a bit of a narcissist a prereq for being a politician???
| 549 |
Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:09:14pm |
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MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:09:15pm |
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:09:17pm |
re: #535 brookly red
well now that we have opened the door...
The Arabs pile on. Even those who are normally sane (such as Abdullah II of Jordan) suffer from severe Israel Derangement Syndrome.
| 552 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:09:19pm |
re: #534 albusteve
another case of STFU...this guy has no claim to any public opinion
Ah, come on Steve. I would say that the king of Jordan has just as much right as you or I to come up with half-assed ideas about what he wants the Middle East to look like.
| 553 |
ryannon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:09:31pm |
re: #484 Killgore Trout
Wine consumption (most recent) by country
The average Frenchy drinks 47 liters a year. That sounds about right.
At six wine glasses per liter, that comes 282 glasses or less than a glass of wine per day.
How many quarts of beer does the average American drink per year?
| 554 |
Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:09:33pm |
re: #538 wozzablog
Baier is a hack by any other networks standards - that he is one of FNC's best does not speak well.
He's got this Howdy Doody aura about him.
| 555 |
simoom Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:09:33pm |
re: #526 simoom
Yup, I looked around at whitehouse.gov and it looks like President Obama's last Press Conference was a little over a month ago, Feb 9, 2010:
[Link: www.whitehouse.gov...]
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webevintage Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:09:44pm |
re: #502 KingKenrod
But I don't care if Baier or anyone else interrupts Obama, the nation's chief executive ought to be grilled whenever the opportunity comes up. It's just sad Baier can't do it with any skill.BTW, when was Obama's last press conference?
There is a difference between tough interviewing and being a disrespectful tool.
Last presser was on Feb 9th, 2010
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:09:47pm |
re: #541 MandyManners
Maybe he's just talking to the American people directly, without the 'filter of the liberal media'...
| 558 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:10:16pm |
re: #522 wrenchwench
Thank you! You are quite the fact-monger.
I don't have time to read that now, but I'm on the watch for non-scientific BS being generated with tax dollars.
I was very annoyed when I listened to a volunteer park ranger speculate about a raven and a lizard actually being sorcerers or ancient people with a spell cast upon them or something. He thought he was entertaining, I thought he was poisoning people's minds. Since he was a volunteer, I guess it wasn't tax dollars, but it was at a National Monument.
Multicultural pandering. Science > / creation myths, you know.
| 559 |
Sheila Broflovski Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:10:38pm |
re: #529 NJDhockeyfan
Isn't that the same little Jordanian king whose daddy ethnically cleansed Jerusalem, burned down all the synagogues and built latrines from tombstones taken from the Mount of Olives cemetery? That little Jordanian king?
He can shut the freaking fuck up.
| 561 |
The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:10:56pm |
re: #543 Gus 802
Yeah, I aw that this afternoon. What a bunch of pigs. No surprise though considering one of their idols ridiculed Michael J. Fox.
So fucked up. The amount of rage and screaming at that guy. Unbelievably ugly.
Lots of people were talking about that supposed NE Journal of Medicine survey yesterday. Not surprisingly, it's a total fabrication:
The spin machine is in serious overdrive this week. It's incredible.
| 562 |
keloyd Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:11:00pm |
re: #534 albusteve
but King Abdullah is also a voice of moderation more than really any Arab leader currently in power. If Jordan had more democracy, it would have more corruption and Hamas types. For now, I'm taking seriously anything he suggests. He even had a cameo on Star Trek! so he's got that going for him, which is nice.
| 563 |
Sheila Broflovski Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:11:34pm |
re: #522 wrenchwench
Thank you! You are quite the fact-monger.
I don't have time to read that now, but I'm on the watch for non-scientific BS being generated with tax dollars.
I was very annoyed when I listened to a volunteer park ranger speculate about a raven and a lizard actually being sorcerers or ancient people with a spell cast upon them or something. He thought he was entertaining, I thought he was poisoning people's minds. Since he was a volunteer, I guess it wasn't tax dollars, but it was at a National Monument.
He just wanted to be "hip" with the Harry Potter fans out there.
| 564 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:11:43pm |
re: #523 Jimmah
Just watched it. What a wanker. The interview Fox showed after it has Baier and co spinning his obvious dickheadery as best they could - 'it was that nasty Obama who made me look bad with his tricksy Washington ways'.
I think it's part of the new approach to dealing with wingnuts. Obama stumbled on it when he had those televised meetings with Republicans on Healthcare reform. Republicans repeat the same easily debunked and hysterical talking points and Obama corrected them but otherwise suffered the fools. There was a memo circulated in congress for the tea party rally the other day telling Dems to be polite, offer cookies to the protesters and reminding them that the Tea Party People still believe in Death Panels and socialist plots. They are treating the wingnuts like children. They are poorly informed and scared.
Frankly I've been feeling sort of the same thing lately too. I used to get angry about the bogus news stories and conspiracies about outlawing fishing but I'm going a little easier these days because it's just people who are confused and scared. They can't really help it.
| 565 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:11:44pm |
re: #553 ryannon
At six wine glasses per liter, that comes 282 glasses or less than a glass of wine per day.
How many quarts of beer does the average American drink per year?
I don't know, but dang it! I was raised on this whole schtick where the French have wine with every meal except bleepin' breakfast! They're letting me down.
| 566 |
MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:11:51pm |
| 567 |
Aye Pod Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:12:34pm |
re: #530 iceweasel
Did this get posted yet? (haven't read the whole thread, apologies if it's been seen)
Video: Tea Partiers Mock And Scorn Apparent Parkinson's Victim
Segment starts around :51.
The whole rally looks pretty ugly.
The ugly, greedy and stupid face of the hardcore Obama haters, for all to see. Nasty.
| 568 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:13:12pm |
From the Kids Say The Darndest Things file, at Chez Inspector...
Daughter: "Papa*, I want to be a wrestler when I grow up."
Me: "...!!!...Women don't wrestle!"
Daughter: "Sure they do! Duh..."
Son: "Women don't wrestle. They box!"
Daughter: "Well, I can box too if I want to."
*I taught them to call me Papa, because I liked how literary and 19th Century it sounds.
| 569 |
Soap_Man Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:13:22pm |
re: #538 wozzablog
Baier is a hack by any other networks standards - that he is one of FNC's best does not speak well.
I agree and disagree. I think most anchors on all three networks are hacks.
| 570 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:13:26pm |
re: #561 iceweasel
So fucked up. The amount of rage and screaming at that guy. Unbelievably ugly.
Lots of people were talking about that supposed NE Journal of Medicine survey yesterday. Not surprisingly, it's a total fabrication:
The spin machine is in serious overdrive this week. It's incredible.
Oh, is that the one that said that all the doctors were going to quit if HCR passed?
Thanks for clearing that up. I tried to find the dang thing on the NEJM site, saw some photographs I'd rather not have seen, but couldn't find it.
| 571 |
Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:13:31pm |
re: #561 iceweasel
So fucked up. The amount of rage and screaming at that guy. Unbelievably ugly.
Lots of people were talking about that supposed NE Journal of Medicine survey yesterday. Not surprisingly, it's a total fabrication:
The spin machine is in serious overdrive this week. It's incredible.
Good find! Again, no surprise. Most of the misinformation is put out by astroturfing groups financed by a small segment of physicians and private hospital corporations and spread around by wannabes or "Lottery Ticket Capitalists".
| 572 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:13:37pm |
re: #559 Alouette
Isn't that the same little Jordanian king whose daddy ethnically cleansed Jerusalem, burned down all the synagogues and built latrines from tombstones taken from the Mount of Olives cemetery? That little Jordanian king?
He can shut the freaking fuck up.
Actually, the current king is that man's great-grandson.
| 573 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:13:53pm |
re: #561 iceweasel
So fucked up. The amount of rage and screaming at that guy. Unbelievably ugly.
Lots of people were talking about that supposed NE Journal of Medicine survey yesterday. Not surprisingly, it's a total fabrication:
The spin machine is in serious overdrive this week. It's incredible.
I read that. The producers of the study/brochure are a recruiting company for physicians. They are trying to score more business by saying, it's going to be harder to get dr.'s for your hospital/clinic etc. So you will NEED US to do the placement for you.
But the misinformation traveled fast, as usual.
| 574 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:14:04pm |
Ot: Strawberries starting blooming today. Spring is here!
| 575 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:14:09pm |
re: #562 keloyd
but King Abdullah is also a voice of moderation more than really any Arab leader currently in power. If Jordan had more democracy, it would have more corruption and Hamas types. For now, I'm taking seriously anything he suggests. He even had a cameo on Star Trek! so he's got that going for him, which is nice.
I'd take his contribution more seriously if he hadn't been doing his level best to avoid taking any more Palestinians than he has to for decades.
| 576 |
Wozza Matter? Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:14:23pm |
re: #551 Dark_Falcon
They gotta roll over and spin like they think like the oppressed masses in their own countries occasionally.
| 577 |
Sheila Broflovski Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:14:23pm |
re: #562 keloyd
but King Abdullah is also a voice of moderation more than really any Arab leader currently in power. If Jordan had more democracy, it would have more corruption and Hamas types. For now, I'm taking seriously anything he suggests. He even had a cameo on Star Trek! so he's got that going for him, which is nice.
King Abdullah may be cuter than the Saudi royals, but he is keeping a huge chunk of the Palestinian homeland for a kingdom of his very own to rule over, while expecting Israel to take responsibility for all the Palestinians.
So fuck him and his cute uniforms.
| 578 |
Digital Display Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:14:26pm |
Hi Lizards! I'm home from the St. Paddy's day party...
it's only 9:12 pm.. Aren't you proud of me?
Ok..It's a work day...
Hope everyone is well...
| 579 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:14:40pm |
re: #553 ryannon
At six wine glasses per liter, that comes 282 glasses or less than a glass of wine per day.
How many quarts of beer does the average
AmericanWindupbird drink peryearday?
FTFY :D
| 580 |
NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:14:45pm |
The Swedish Public Employment Centre (Arbetsfrmedlingen) has been ordered to pay 60,000 Swedish kroner to a Muslim citizen, Alen Malik Crnalic.In 2006, Crnalic applied to be a trainee welder at a company in lmhult, in southern Sweden. During the interview, Crnalic, being an “active” Muslim, refused to shake hands with the company’s woman CEO. After the interview his application was turned down.
According to the CEO, the decision to reject Crnalic was not based on his way of greeting. But the CEO felt insulted by the way she was treated by Crnalic. ‘’I felt humiliated. He shook hands with everybody except me,” she told Swedish Television. Crnalic appealed the decision to the Public Employment Centre, which rejected his appeal. He than went to the Discrimination Ombudsman and the case ended up in court. In the courtroom the scales tipped in favour of Crnalic.
The court accepted Crnalic’s “right” not to shake hands with the woman for religious reasons and ruled that therefore his unemployment benefits should not have been cancelled.
| 581 |
MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:14:56pm |
re: #574 Killgore Trout
Ot: Strawberries starting blooming today. Spring is here!
Photographs?! I love strawberry blooms.
| 582 |
jaunte Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:15:08pm |
re: #574 Killgore Trout
Ot: Strawberries starting blooming today. Spring is here!
Now all you need is a cliff, a tiger, and two mice.
| 583 |
Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:15:20pm |
re: #551 Dark_Falcon
The Arabs pile on. Even those who are normally sane (such as Abdullah II of Jordan) suffer from severe Israel Derangement Syndrome.
It's not IDS, it's IDF they suffer from.
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MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:15:28pm |
re: #577 Alouette
King Abdullah may be cuter than the Saudi royals, but he is keeping a huge chunk of the Palestinian homeland for a kingdom of his very own to rule over, while expecting Israel to take responsibility for all the Palestinians.
So fuck him and his cute uniforms.
WORD.
| 585 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:15:36pm |
re: #547 MandyManners
I've never had a problem.
And some people can smoke 4 packs a day for 40 years and never get cancer.
Microsoft Martyr: 72 virgins, or triple your money back. Only $399.95
| 586 |
Varek Raith Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:15:53pm |
| 587 |
ryannon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:15:54pm |
re: #565 SanFranciscoZionist
I don't know, but dang it! I was raised on this whole schtick where the French have wine with every meal except bleepin' breakfast! They're letting me down.
That's sort of become a stereotype like the Basque beret, the bicycle and the baguette.... What's for certain is that the French still enjoy a glass or two, but it's not as systematic as in the past. In the cafés, you'll see more people drinking diet Coke or Earl Grey than the usual glass of pinard.
| 588 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:16:09pm |
re: #570 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh, is that the one that said that all the doctors were going to quit if HCR passed?
Thanks for clearing that up. I tried to find the dang thing on the NEJM site, saw some photographs I'd rather not have seen, but couldn't find it.
The idea of all doctors quitting if HCR passes is about as likely as all conservative business leaders "Going Galt".
| 589 |
webevintage Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:16:15pm |
Ofre: #557 darthstar
Maybe he's just talking to the American people directly, without the 'filter of the liberal media'...
When you consider some of the idiotic questions the WH press corps asks.....
| 590 |
MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:16:20pm |
| 591 |
Taqyia2Me Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:16:22pm |
re: #575 SanFranciscoZionist
I'd take his contribution more seriously if he hadn't been doing his level best to avoid taking any more Palestinians than he has to for decades.
Apparently, the US can only buy SO much allied-ness from our Arab friends.
| 592 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:16:33pm |
re: #583 Cato the Elder
It's not IDS, it's IDF they suffer from.
/well don't scratch in or it might flair up...
| 593 |
Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:16:33pm |
re: #573 Stanley Sea
I read that. The producers of the study/brochure are a recruiting company for physicians. They are trying to score more business by saying, it's going to be harder to get dr.'s for your hospital/clinic etc. So you will NEED US to do the placement for you.
But the misinformation traveled fast, as usual.
The misinformation is available by the truck load Pantload™.
/
| 594 |
Wozza Matter? Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:16:35pm |
re: #569 Soap_Man
I have international CNN - the break from their quiet competent news reporters and presentes during the international hours is sharply contrasted to the showbiz types on american CNN.
It's a shame, International CNN is a pretty good network, cafferty is a hoot though when they switch feeds for CNN cable primetime.
| 595 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:16:47pm |
re: #566 MandyManners
I know growed up adults who are still fucking terrified of the flying monkeys from "The Wizard of Oz".
And Oompa Loompas. My niece is 20 and can't watch them.
| 596 |
The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:16:50pm |
re: #571 Gus 802
re: #570 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh, is that the one that said that all the doctors were going to quit if HCR passed?
Thanks for clearing that up. I tried to find the dang thing on the NEJM site, saw some photographs I'd rather not have seen, but couldn't find it.
That's the one. Stanley's right, above. here's more:
Right-wing media have seized on a dubious, three-month old email "survey" that purports to show that physicians are concerned about health care reform and that 46 percent of the primary care doctors surveyed "indicated that they would leave medicine - or try to leave medicine - as a result of health reform." Many media figures have falsely attributed this survey to the New England Journal of Medicine. For example, on Fox & Friends, co-host Brian Kilmeade said: "The New England Journal of Medicine has published a report and did a survey, and they said the impact of reform on primary care physicians, 46 percent, they say, feel reform will force them out or make them want to leave medicine."
This is false.
Media Matters for America contacted the New England Journal of Medicine, which confirmed it neither conducted nor published the "survey."
NEJM spokesperson Jennifer Zeis told Media Matters that the study had "nothing to do with the New England Journal of Medicine's original research." She also made clear that the study "was not published by the New England Journal of Medicine," and said that "we are taking steps to clarify the source of the survey."
The "report" that right-wing media are citing actually appeared in Recruiting Physicians Today, which is an employment newsletter produced by "the publishers of the New England Journal of Medicine." According to Zeis, that report actually "was written by the Medicus Firm," the medical recruitment firm that conducted the "survey."
Here's how The Medicus Firm describes the "survey" methodology:
"The survey sample was randomly selected from a physician database of thousands. The database has been built over the past eight years by The Medicus Firm (formerly Medicus Partners and The MD Firm) from a variety of sources including, but not limited to, public directories, purchased lists, practice inquiries, training programs, and direct mail responses. The survey was conducted via emails sent directly to physicians."
The Medicus Firm's clients include hospitals and physician groups.
[...]
So, in sum, the right-wing media has seized upon what appears to be essentially a promotional document from a physician recruitment firm in order to argue that health care reform will cause physician recruitment and retention problems in the future.
| 597 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:17:01pm |
re: #561 iceweasel
So fucked up. The amount of rage and screaming at that guy. Unbelievably ugly.
Lots of people were talking about that supposed NE Journal of Medicine survey yesterday. Not surprisingly, it's a total fabrication:
The spin machine is in serious overdrive this week. It's incredible.
Interesting and not surprising. Why can't media matters link to anyone but themselves? Who the fuck is running that awful blog? They could be doing some good work but they really need some tech help.
| 598 |
MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:17:09pm |
re: #585 negativ
And some people can smoke 4 packs a day for 40 years and never get cancer.
Microsoft Martyr: 72 virgins, or triple your money back. Only $399.95
Why would I want a virgin, let alone 72?
| 599 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:17:14pm |
| 600 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:17:38pm |
| 601 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:17:40pm |
| 602 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:17:46pm |
re: #574 Killgore Trout
Ot: Strawberries starting blooming today. Spring is here!
spring in ABQ is when they flood the acequias for local use....suddenly the gates open and in pours the water...pretty cool...I drive around my part of the conservancy and some of the canales have 4ft waterfalls!....spring!
| 603 |
webevintage Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:18:39pm |
re: #588 WindUpBird
The idea of all doctors quitting if HCR passes is about as likely as all conservative business leaders "Going Galt".
Really.
What happened to all those folks who were going to "Go Gault"?
Why is Malkin not living in some super sekrit libertarian paradise?
I kept hoping that some of my competitors would "Go Gault" so I could pick up their customers.
| 604 |
simoom Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:19:09pm |
re: #502 KingKenrod
Baier's out of his league. I don't think there are any good interviewers left at Fox. They probably should have let Brit Hume or Chris Wallace do it.
But I don't care if Baier or anyone else interrupts Obama, the nation's chief executive ought to be grilled whenever the opportunity comes up. It's just sad Baier can't do it with any skill.
Excerpts from Brett Baier's fawning interview with President Bush: George W. Bush, "Fighting to the Finish":
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:19:22pm |
re: #596 iceweasel
And it was bought, hook, line and sinker.
...a tribute to the Great American Fishing Ban.
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albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:19:38pm |
re: #575 SanFranciscoZionist
I'd take his contribution more seriously if he hadn't been doing his level best to avoid taking any more Palestinians than he has to for decades.
it's just more pile on blather...it's purpose is just to add fuel to the fire and I think it's wrong...he's nobody
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wrenchwench Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:19:39pm |
re: #597 Killgore Trout
Interesting and not surprising. Why can't media matters link to anyone but themselves? Who the fuck is running that awful blog? They could be doing some good work but they really need some tech help.
The links look like they are to Media Matters when you mouse over them, but they are not.
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:19:42pm |
re: #572 Dark_Falcon
Actually, the current king is that man's great-grandson.
Tell me why this hereditary doofus deserves a kingdom of his very own without any of the troublesome Palestinians.
It's not like his Hashemite ancestors conquered their royal kingdom and ruled it benevolently for centuries. They had it handed to them on a silver tray by the British as a fucking consolation prize for the Brits giving away their "real kingdom" to the robber gang of Saud!
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:19:44pm |
re: #603 webevintage
Really.
What happened to all those folks who were going to "Go Gault"?
Why is Malkin not living in some super sekrit libertarian paradise?I kept hoping that some of my competitors would "Go Gault" so I could pick up their customers.
Or maybe Galt.
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Aye Pod Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:19:59pm |
re: #566 MandyManners
[Video]
That's the second time today you've posted that. I guess you must really really like it huh?
Here's some simian shenanigans, just for you (trying to broaden your repertoire a little - hope you appreciate it)! :
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:20:14pm |
re: #524 negativ
Well, since Microsoft products do have a tendency to commit the software equivalent of suicide bombing, that would be darkly appropriate.
Still rollin' on Windows XP, still making a living doing art and game dev on my supposedly inferior machine. Still spending a tiny teeny fraction of the cost of a new Mac. ;-)
On the other hand, I grew up with Ataris, Commodore 64s, Amigas, and MS-DOS, hacking away at config.sys and autoexec.bat text files to get my games to run with sound drivers and VESA drivers below the 640K barrier, so I think I'm a little more comfortable with DIY.
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webevintage Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:20:21pm |
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Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:20:29pm |
re: #600 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
There's pie?
There might be pie. I have a serious and unapologetic anti-pie agenda. However, I', getting rid of the last on my non-edible landscaping this year. 3 blueberry bushes, 2 currants, 1 gooseberry. I might rethink my anti-pie philosophy. No comprimise on cakes.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:20:34pm |
re: #588 WindUpBird
The idea of all doctors quitting if HCR passes is about as likely as all conservative business leaders "Going Galt".
Before the election, people were seriously talking about how tons of people would quit their jobs if Obama was elected, because with those looming tax hikes 'it would be cheaper not to work'.
Sadly, no one seems to have followed through on this, and my husband's job search has been made harder by these liars who didn't actually vacate the workforce and live off their wise investments.
/
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:21:00pm |
re: #589 webevintage
Of
When you consider some of the idiotic questions the WH press corps asks...
I felt a great deal of sympathy for the Bush's dog when he bit that reporter.
| 616 |
NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:21:16pm |
AG: Mass. dentist used paper clips in root canals
A former Massachusetts dentist is accused of placing paper clips instead of stainless steel posts inside the teeth of root canal patients while billing Medicaid for the more expensive parts.
The state attorney general announced Tuesday that a grand jury indicted former Fall River dentist Michael Clair last week. The charges include assault and battery, larceny, submitting false claims to Medicaid and illegally prescribing drugs.
Prosecutors say Clair was suspended by Medicaid in 2002. He allegedly hired other dentists for his clinic and filed claims under their numbers between August 2003 and June 2005. He's also accused of illegally prescribing drugs to staffers who returned medications to him.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:21:27pm |
re: #590 MandyManners
Dhimmification proceeds apace.
In my neighborhood we call that being 'shomer negiah'.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:21:54pm |
re: #603 webevintage
Really.
What happened to all those folks who were going to "Go Gault"?
Why is Malkin not living in some super sekrit libertarian paradise?I kept hoping that some of my competitors would "Go Gault" so I could pick up their customers.
Malkin's too busy cashing checks from her new best friend, James Dobson. Why go Galt when you can GO CRAZY INSTEAD
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keloyd Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:22:05pm |
re: #575 SanFranciscoZionist
I'd take his contribution more seriously if he hadn't been doing his level best to avoid taking any more Palestinians than he has to for decades.
I agree, that's a pretty vile set of choices Jordan has made the way they treat the Palestinian refugees. At this point, I don't know how much freedom Abdullah has to change course and not get assasinated in a coup.
Same goes for Kim Jong Il. At this point in the game, certain (largely evil) leaders have painted themselves in a corner. If they're not willing to risk their necks, public opinion gives them a pretty narrow set of options.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:22:33pm |
re: #607 wrenchwench
The links look like they are to Media Matters when you mouse over them, but they are not.
Ah, I did not know that. I usually mouse over links to see where they go. I just don;t bother clicking on blogs who only link to themselves. Debbie Schlussel taught me that lesson. It's just a waste of time.
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Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:22:33pm |
re: #596 iceweasel
re: #570 SanFranciscoZionist
[...]
So, in sum, the right-wing media has seized upon what appears to be essentially a promotional document from a physician recruitment firm in order to argue that health care reform will cause physician recruitment and retention problems in the future.
Super sized double fail. Of course they won't retract or stop using that faux survey. Couldn't help but notice they repeat what I had already said that it was financed by "hospitals and physician groups." Odds are it would be exclusive physicians that only see have the top 1 percent of society as patients.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:23:01pm |
re: #611 WindUpBird
Still rollin' on Windows XP, still making a living doing art and game dev on my supposedly inferior machine. Still spending a tiny teeny fraction of the cost of a new Mac. ;-)
On the other hand, I grew up with Ataris, Commodore 64s, Amigas, and MS-DOS, hacking away at config.sys and autoexec.bat text files to get my games to run with sound drivers and VESA drivers below the 640K barrier, so I think I'm a little more comfortable with DIY.
I wrote the fist bulletin board system to run on the Vic-20, written in VicBasic, need the 16k expansion memory cartridge, a Hayes 300 modem and a 1541 floppy drive. TimeWorks out of Chicago sold it for me... you had to make your own rs232 cable between the non-standard Vic RS232 bus and the Hayes.
It was called "The Softboard."
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:23:04pm |
re: #603 webevintage
Really.
What happened to all those folks who were going to "Go Gault"?
Why is Malkin not living in some super sekrit libertarian paradise?I kept hoping that some of my competitors would "Go Gault" so I could pick up their customers.
Don't you sell vintage clothes? Are there a lot of vintage clothes retailers who make enough money to 'go Galt'?
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:23:16pm |
re: #617 SanFranciscoZionist
In my neighborhood we call that being 'shomer negiah'.
I was taught that it is OK to shake hands with a man for a job interview as this is customary business protocol.
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brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:23:42pm |
re: #613 Killgore Trout
There might be pie. I have a serious and unapologetic anti-pie agenda. However, I', getting rid of the last on my non-edible landscaping this year. 3 blueberry bushes, 2 currants, 1 gooseberry. I might rethink my anti-pie philosophy. No comprimise on cakes.
gooseberries or currants would make nice tarts, no? (kinda like small pies)
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:23:59pm |
I'll take John of Gaunt any day over John Galt.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:24:15pm |
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The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:24:24pm |
re: #615 SanFranciscoZionist
I felt a great deal of sympathy for the Bush's dog when he bit that reporter.
Heh. The Obama's dog attacked a reporter too. :) Well, a microphone.
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keloyd Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:24:39pm |
re: #577 Alouette
also keep in mind that being the most constructive and moderate of the current Arab kings or dictators is not exactly a high standard.
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Digital Display Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:24:43pm |
re: #623 Walter L. Newton
I wrote the fist bulletin board system to run on the Vic-20, written in VicBasic, need the 16k expansion memory cartridge, a Hayes 300 modem and a 1541 floppy drive. TimeWorks out of Chicago sold it for me... you had to make your own rs232 cable between the non-standard Vic RS232 bus and the Hayes.
It was called "The Softboard."
I ran Wildcat BBS..
Napa Valley on line
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:24:44pm |
Wal-Mart probing racist store announcement
WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP, New Jersey - Wal-Mart Stores Inc. officials are reviewing security tapes to try to determine who used a southern New Jersey store's public-address system to tell "all black people" to leave.
On Sunday evening at the Washington Township store, a male voice calmly announced: "Attention Wal-Mart customers: All black people leave the store now."
Witnesses told the Courier-Post newspaper that customers and store employees looked stunned. Management later apologized.
Company spokeswoman Ashley Hardie says the incident was "unacceptable." The retailer is looking to prevent it from happening in the future.
Washington Township police and the Gloucester County Prosecutor's Office also are investigating.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:24:53pm |
re: #611 WindUpBird
I paid extra to get XP on my laptop. Need it for my QuickBooks. QB fail on Vista, but they don't want you to know that.
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webevintage Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:25:21pm |
re: #624 SanFranciscoZionist
Don't you sell vintage clothes? Are there a lot of vintage clothes retailers who make enough money to 'go Galt'?
Oh, can't you just let me make my silly posts without asking for reality?
There must be a LOLcat for that.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:25:39pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:25:47pm |
re: #623 Walter L. Newton
I wrote the fist bulletin board system to run on the Vic-20, written in VicBasic, need the 16k expansion memory cartridge, a Hayes 300 modem and a 1541 floppy drive. TimeWorks out of Chicago sold it for me... you had to make your own rs232 cable between the non-standard Vic RS232 bus and the Hayes.
It was called "The Softboard."
Yay! I never had a Vic, but my best friend as a kid did. I had an Atari 400. We got into many arguments about which was more awesome. :D I didn't really get into the BBS scene until I got my Atari ST. A screaming 2400 Baud modem to give me my first taste of being an online nuisance.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:26:10pm |
re: #608 Alouette
Tell me why this hereditary doofus deserves a kingdom of his very own without any of the troublesome Palestinians.
It's not like his Hashemite ancestors conquered their royal kingdom and ruled it benevolently for centuries. They had it handed to them on a silver tray by the British as a fucking consolation prize for the Brits giving away their "real kingdom" to the robber gang of Saud!
I don't have an good reason, save that he keeps the crazy pressure down in his kingdom. He's the best we've got there (sad to say).
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:26:26pm |
re: #636 WindUpBird
Yay! I never had a Vic, but my best friend as a kid did. I had an Atari 400. We got into many arguments about which was more awesome. :D I didn't really get into the BBS scene until I got my Atari ST. A screaming 2400 Baud modem to give me my first taste of being an online nuisance.
And evidently you haven't stopped since :)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:27:14pm |
re: #633 Stanley Sea
I paid extra to get XP on my laptop. Need it for my QuickBooks. QB fail on Vista, but they don't want you to know that.
Yeah, i have one machine with Vista and one with XP. The Vista machine gets a little iffy with some of the legacy stuff I run. Luckily it doesn't break anything critical, but there's more weird crashes when i stick my old art apps on it.
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The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:27:58pm |
re: #597 Killgore Trout
Interesting and not surprising. Why can't media matters link to anyone but themselves? Who the fuck is running that awful blog? They could be doing some good work but they really need some tech help.
What? They link their prior extensive coverage. It's not as if the links trail out and don't lead to offsite stuff, plus they've got embedded audio, video.
Same thing happens everywhere. If you've written extensively about something you wind up linking to your prior stuff to get people up to speed.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:27:58pm |
| 642 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:28:16pm |
re: #632 NJDhockeyfan
Who ever said that ought to be made to made to walk around with a sandwich board reading "I am a racist asshole. Smack me."
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:28:29pm |
re: #638 Walter L. Newton
And evidently you haven't stopped since :)
I used to be so much more obnoxious! But mostly about games and music.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:28:47pm |
re: #625 Alouette
I was taught that it is OK to shake hands with a man for a job interview as this is customary business protocol.
A lot of these young'uns these days won't, though.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:29:00pm |
re: #642 Dark_Falcon
Who ever said that ought to be made to made to walk around with a sandwich board reading "I am a racist asshole. Smack me."
(prolly someone from Target)
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:29:28pm |
re: #608 Alouette
Tell me why this hereditary doofus deserves a kingdom of his very own without any of the troublesome Palestinians.
It's not like his Hashemite ancestors conquered their royal kingdom and ruled it benevolently for centuries. They had it handed to them on a silver tray by the British as a fucking consolation prize for the Brits giving away their "real kingdom" to the robber gang of Saud!
It took me a few seconds to realize who you were talking about. Halfway into the first sentence I still thought you were ranting about GWB. ;^)
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MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:29:30pm |
| 648 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:29:38pm |
re: #629 iceweasel
Heh. The Obama's dog attacked a reporter too. :) Well, a microphone.
They must sense the stress their people feel around the press. Biting them just seems like a practical way to deal with it.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:29:52pm |
Sorry guys. I have to go back out.
Sitting in a hotel room on St. Paddy's Day just ain't doin' it for me.
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The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:30:06pm |
re: #621 Killgore Trout
Ah, I did not know that. I usually mouse over links to see where they go. I just don;t bother clicking on blogs who only link to themselves. Debbie Schlussel taught me that lesson. It's just a waste of time.
They have an embedded code in the beginning that says MMFA. The first six links are all to outside sources. That's when I quit counting.
| 651 |
NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:30:09pm |
Brazilian president places wreath on Arafat's tomb
RAMALLAH, West Bank — Brazil's president placed a wreath on the tomb of the late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat on Wednesday and sharply criticized Israeli policies, leading Israeli officials to suggest he was not being evenhanded.
Making the first visit by any sitting Brazilian president to Israel and the Palestinian territories, President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva has termed the trip amission of peace." The visit appears aimed at helping Brazil emerge as a bigger player in foreign affairs.
| 652 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:30:23pm |
re: #633 Stanley Sea
I paid extra to get XP on my laptop. Need it for my QuickBooks. QB fail on Vista, but they don't want you to know that.
Oh oh, there is a cool thing in Windows 7 that enables XP compatibility if you have a certain kind of processor, and apparently it's no joke, it really works.
It's looking more and more than Windows 7 is the "real" new Windows OS, and Vista was basically an alpha of windows 7. :P
| 653 |
webevintage Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:30:38pm |
re: #649 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Sorry guys. I have to go back out.
Sitting in a hotel room on St. Paddy's Day just ain't doin' it for me.
Have fun!
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brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:30:39pm |
re: #649 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Sorry guys. I have to go back out.
Sitting in a hotel room on St. Paddy's Day just ain't doin' it for me.
the hotel has no bar?
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:30:43pm |
re: #632 NJDhockeyfan
I saw that. Sounds weird as hell. I am betting on a nineteen-year-old soon-to-be-ex-employee with a sense of humor that is not as widely appreciated as he thinks it should be.
| 656 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:30:58pm |
re: #651 NJDhockeyfan
NJDhockeyfan - I'm buying you a beer, right now!
| 657 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:31:11pm |
re: #634 webevintage
Oh, can't you just let me make my silly posts without asking for reality?
There must be a LOLcat for that.
Yeah, well, I teach school. There is no way I will ever go Galt.
| 658 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:31:45pm |
re: #652 WindUpBird
Oh oh, there is a cool thing in Windows 7 that enables XP compatibility if you have a certain kind of processor, and apparently it's no joke, it really works.
It's looking more and more than Windows 7 is the "real" new Windows OS, and Vista was basically an alpha of windows 7. :P
I'll wait for this one to die, thank you.
I don't game or do graphics at all, so I'm ok I think.
| 659 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:31:58pm |
re: #655 SanFranciscoZionist
I saw that. Sounds weird as hell. I am betting on a nineteen-year-old soon-to-be-ex-employee with a sense of humor that is not as widely appreciated as he thinks it should be.
yeah, totally. Sounds like something a 4chan guy from /b/ would do.
| 660 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:32:48pm |
re: #608 Alouette
Tell me why this hereditary doofus deserves a kingdom of his very own without any of the troublesome Palestinians.
His father had the good sense and requisite ruthlessness to kick them out. I mean, who would want a bunch of terrorists running free in your own country, nu?
| 661 |
NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:32:51pm |
re: #656 Stanley Sea
NJDhockeyfan - I'm buying you a beer, right now!
Today it has to be a Guinness.
:-)
| 662 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:33:13pm |
| 663 |
MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:33:30pm |
re: #651 NJDhockeyfan
I did a bit about that earlier. How close are ShortShit and Chavez, another Jew-hating bastard?
| 664 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:33:39pm |
| 665 |
goddamnedfrank Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:33:44pm |
re: #603 webevintage
Really.
What happened to all those folks who were going to "Go Gault"?
Why is Malkin not living in some super sekrit libertarian paradise?I kept hoping that some of my competitors would "Go Gault" so I could pick up their customers.
The thing about that is, living in a gulch sounds okay until you realize it's just a fancied up version of living in a ditch.
| 666 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:33:59pm |
| 667 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:34:05pm |
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brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:34:10pm |
| 669 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:34:43pm |
re: #650 iceweasel
They have an embedded code in the beginning that says MMFA. The first six links are all to outside sources. That's when I quit counting.
I've clicked a few links there in the past and they went to other media matters articles. With the embedded code I just never bothered after that because I thought they had a policy of only linking to themselves. Still, I wish they'd show me where I'm going before I click so I know if it's worth the effort. Their layout and format still stinks and they need a serious redesign. I just find the site unreadable.
| 670 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:35:16pm |
re: #667 The Sanity Inspector
Maybe a prankster, slipping into an unminded office.
don't they have those page/phone things in the isles?
| 671 |
Digital Display Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:35:20pm |
re: #639 WindUpBird
Yeah, i have one machine with Vista and one with XP. The Vista machine gets a little iffy with some of the legacy stuff I run. Luckily it doesn't break anything critical, but there's more weird crashes when i stick my old art apps on it.
Windows 7 is rock solid code.. I have one machine at work running win 7 that has never been rebooted for months...
Kind of hard to believe MS plugged the memory leak..I'm not sure if it's automatic garbage collection after routines...Or not allowing any app to call into ring one of the kernel..
Cleaner C code?...I don't know..But MS is finally on a good path to designing an Robust OS...
| 672 |
Soap_Man Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:35:40pm |
re: #655 SanFranciscoZionist
I saw that. Sounds weird as hell. I am betting on a nineteen-year-old soon-to-be-ex-employee with a sense of humor that is not as widely appreciated as he thinks it should be.
I wonder if it might have been a customer. At the grocery store I worked at in high school, the microphone was right there. If no one was at the desk, any customer could reach over and grab it.
I would think Wal-Mart would have it in a safer location, but you never know.
| 673 |
Soap_Man Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:36:42pm |
re: #672 Soap_Man
I wonder if it might have been a customer. At the grocery store I worked at in high school, the microphone was right there at the service desk. If no one was at the desk, any customer could reach over and grab it.
I would think Wal-Mart would have it in a safer location, but you never know.
Fixed for clarity.
| 674 |
MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:36:44pm |
re: #667 The Sanity Inspector
Maybe a prankster, slipping into an unminded office.
Around here, all it would take is the code to get on the PA. Hell, I once paged The Kid from a phone at an un-attended check-out point.
| 675 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:36:44pm |
re: #672 Soap_Man
I wonder if it might have been a customer. At the grocery store I worked at in high school, the microphone was right there. If no one was at the desk, any customer could reach over and grab it.
I would think Wal-Mart would have it in a safer location, but you never know.
well they will now...
| 676 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:37:01pm |
re: #668 brookly red
sigh... no pie.
maybe he could google some pictures...maybe even find a talking pie
| 677 |
MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:37:43pm |
re: #676 albusteve
maybe he could google some pictures...maybe even find a talking pie
I'm struggling to not post
"In bed".
| 678 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:37:43pm |
re: #676 albusteve
maybe he could google some pictures...maybe even find a talking pie
all pie talks if you know how to listen...
| 679 |
MJ Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:38:04pm |
Hope Bibi doesn't cave:
Obama: No crisis in Israel-US ties
By HERB KEINON AND AP
18/03/2010 01:03
Inner cabinet meets after Israel reportedly pressured to respond to Washington demands.
...Channel 2 reported on Wednesday night that the administration told Netanyahu that until a response to these requests had been received, he would not be able to meet any high level US officials on his upcoming trip to Washington to address the American Israel Public Affairs Committee policy conference.
Prior to the explosion of the Ramat Shlomo issue last week, Netanyahu was expected to meet with both Clinton and Biden during his visit. Now neither meeting is confirmed....
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
No more "confidence building measures". He can live without meeting Biden or Clinton iof that's the price he has to pay. What measures have the Palestinians taken? Israel agreed to halt construction for a 10 month period in the West Bank, has wanted direct negotiations with the Palestinians, removed dozens of roadblocks, etc.
| 680 |
webevintage Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:38:05pm |
re: #667 The Sanity Inspector
Maybe a prankster, slipping into an unminded office.
Of course I would know this.
You can make announcements over the phones as long as you know the code and there are phones all over the place.
| 681 |
NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:38:08pm |
Purported al-Awlaki message calls for jihad against U.S.
American-born Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki is calling for jihad against America, claiming "America is evil" in a new audio message obtained exclusively by CNN.
"With the American invasion of Iraq and continued U.S. aggression against Muslims, I could not reconcile between living in the U.S and being a Muslim, and I eventually came to the conclusion that jihad against America is binding upon myself just as it is binding on every other Muslim," he says in the recording that runs more than 12 minutes.
Al-Awlaki is believed to be hiding out in hills of southern Yemen with the protection of his very powerful family tribe.
| 682 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:38:22pm |
| 683 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:38:25pm |
re: #672 Soap_Man
I wonder if it might have been a customer. At the grocery store I worked at in high school, the microphone was right there. If no one was at the desk, any customer could reach over and grab it.
I would think Wal-Mart would have it in a safer location, but you never know.
I had friends who worked at what amounted to a thrift/closeout merchandise store, and they would just abuse the hell out of the PA system. Every time they'd get on it, they'd pretend they were in Smokey and the Bandit, firing outgibberish CB-radio lingo: "Breaker breaker, good buddy, we need you at the register, come back, 10-4, it's a convoy..."
| 684 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:38:50pm |
| 685 |
The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:39:03pm |
re: #669 Killgore Trout
I've clicked a few links there in the past and they went to other media matters articles. With the embedded code I just never bothered after that because I thought they had a policy of only linking to themselves. Still, I wish they'd show me where I'm going before I click so I know if it's worth the effort.
They do. When you mouse over and read the whole url, ignoring the MMFA referral tag in the front, you can see where it leads to. In my expereince when they link their prior coverage you will find the documentation you want in that prior coverage.
The MMFA tag in the front of the URL's is a giant pain in the ass, I agree. Probably a lot of people have made the same mistake as you, and incorrectly thought they only link to themselves as a result.
| 686 |
keloyd Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:39:14pm |
Re Walmart - I've been in take-this-job-and-shove-it mode enough to do that in my misspent youth, but never had the opportunity and motive at the same time.
Honestly, what could you say in 2 seconds that would get your big box retailer employer in deeper trouble - and yet not be criminal?
Yell "FIRE" on the intercom and the cops may lay the smack down. Let loose a string of cusswords and it is obvious to customers that a naughty child has found the mic. Make this prankster's choice and it gets on the national news.
| 687 |
Soap_Man Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:39:14pm |
re: #674 MandyManners
Around here, all it would take is the code to get on the PA. Hell, I once paged The Kid from a phone at an un-attended check-out point.
After the grocery store I mentioned, I worked at Home Depot. There were phones everywhere and you could get on the PA from any of them, even the ones in the aisles. All you had to do was hit 9, IIRC.
| 690 |
Aye Pod Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:39:47pm |
re: #647 MandyManners
[Video]
You just posted that same video for the third time today now! Kinda fucked up, IMO.
| 691 |
MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:40:42pm |
re: #687 Soap_Man
After the grocery store I mentioned, I worked at Home Depot. There were phones everywhere and you could get on the PA from any of them, even the ones in the aisles. All you had to do was hit 9, IIRC.
It's not rocket-science.
| 692 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:40:47pm |
re: #678 brookly red
all pie talks if you know how to listen...
Call any vegetable, and the chances are good that the vegetable will respond to you.
| 693 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:41:31pm |
re: #677 MandyManners
I'm struggling to not post
"In bed".
"In bed" incites more giggles, but "on the moon" is always a notch better.
| 694 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:41:35pm |
re: #623 Walter L. Newton
I wrote the fist bulletin board system to run on the Vic-20, written in VicBasic, need the 16k expansion memory cartridge, a Hayes 300 modem and a 1541 floppy drive. TimeWorks out of Chicago sold it for me... you had to make your own rs232 cable between the non-standard Vic RS232 bus and the Hayes.
It was called "The Softboard."
Interesting...
| 695 |
NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:41:56pm |
Playboy accidentally played out on children's TV
TV bosses in the US have apologised after preview clips of the Playboy channel were accidentally played out on two children's channels.A Time Warner Cable (TWC) spokesman said a "technical glitch" was to blame for the mistake, which lasted two hours in parts of North Carolina on Tuesday.
The company was made aware of the error after parents called in to report it.
TWC said it had procedures in place to catch errors, but it was not picked up as it affected only a small area.
| 697 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:42:35pm |
re: #692 negativ
Call any vegetable, and the chances are good that the vegetable will respond to you.
yes... they say put butter on me.
| 698 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:43:02pm |
re: #686 keloyd
Re Walmart - I've been in take-this-job-and-shove-it mode enough to do that in my misspent youth, but never had the opportunity and motive at the same time.
Honestly, what could you say in 2 seconds that would get your big box retailer employer in deeper trouble - and yet not be criminal?
Yell "FIRE" on the intercom and the cops may lay the smack down. Let loose a string of cusswords and it is obvious to customers that a naughty child has found the mic. Make this prankster's choice and it gets on the national news.
It certainly gets people's attention! Of course I couldn't go all racial, who doesn't want to go up to a Wal-Mart intercom thingy and start announcing random sales on merchandise...
"For the next five minutes, all items that are the color orange are 70% off! One item per household! Sale does not apply to actual oranges. I am your sales genie, remain in this location for more exciting deals that make no sense."
| 700 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:44:38pm |
re: #698 WindUpBird
It certainly gets people's attention! Of course I couldn't go all racial, who doesn't want to go up to a Wal-Mart intercom thingy and start announcing random sales on merchandise...
"For the next five minutes, all items that are the color orange are 70% off! One item per household! Sale does not apply to actual oranges. I am your sales genie, remain in this location for more exciting deals that make no sense."
I had a feeling that was you...
| 701 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:46:05pm |
Does K-Mart still have blue light specials? Are there still K-Marts? (none in my neck of the woods)
| 702 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:46:09pm |
re: #690 Jimmah
"Weird is he who keepeth account of the Internet activities of the other, yea verily shall his own predilections become known among all the village!" - Ronjeremy 13:37
| 703 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:46:11pm |
re: #690 Jimmah
You just posted that same video for the third time today now! Kinda fucked up, IMO.
First time I'd seen it, FWIW.
| 704 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:46:15pm |
| 705 |
MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:46:35pm |
| 706 |
Aye Pod Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:47:19pm |
re: #698 WindUpBird
It certainly gets people's attention! Of course I couldn't go all racial, who doesn't want to go up to a Wal-Mart intercom thingy and start announcing random sales on merchandise...
"For the next five minutes, all items that are the color orange are 70% off! One item per household! Sale does not apply to actual oranges. I am your sales genie, remain in this location for more exciting deals that make no sense."
"It's ginger day here at Walmart! If you are ginger, this is your day for big savings in this store!"
| 707 |
Daniel Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:47:26pm |
re: #486 Soap_Man
Hooray! Just knew you would be fine. ;)>
| 708 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:47:39pm |
| 709 |
Soap_Man Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:47:57pm |
re: #701 Stanley Sea
Does K-Mart still have blue light specials? Are there still K-Marts? (none in my neck of the woods)
Yeah, there's one out by my work. But that's the only one I am familiar with in the entire Chicago area. They are dropping like flies.
| 710 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:48:12pm |
re: #701 Stanley Sea
Does K-Mart still have blue light specials? Are there still K-Marts? (none in my neck of the woods)
Yes, they still exist, barely. They're now called Big-K. Most of them in my area shut down, but there's still one.
In fact, when K-Mart was going bust a few years ago and closing stores, the lights on the surviving Big-K's sign malfunctioned. At night, it read Pig-K. I wondered if the store manager was editorializing.
| 711 |
Sheila Broflovski Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:48:20pm |
re: #630 keloyd
also keep in mind that being the most constructive and moderate of the current Arab kings or dictators is not exactly a high standard.
That's why they are all held to such nugatory standards, right? And they get to keep their palaces and their limos and their vast swathes of land.
| 712 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:48:35pm |
re: #705 MandyManners
Run rabbit, run
Dig that hole -
Forget the sun
| 713 |
NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:48:39pm |
Image of the Day Gallery: The Wizard Nebula
This image of the open star cluster NGC 7380, also known as the Wizard Nebula, is a mosaic of images from the WISE mission spanning an area on the sky of about 5 times the size of the full moon. NGC 7380 is located in the constellation Cepheus about 7,000 light-years from Earth within the Milky Way Galaxy. The star cluster is embedded in a nebula, which spans some 110 light-years. The stars of NGC 7380 have emerged from this star-forming region in the last 5 million years or so, making it a relatively young cluster.
| 714 |
Daniel Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:48:55pm |
re: #517 SanFranciscoZionist
But if a Fox bit his tail, different story!
| 715 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:49:46pm |
re: #710 The Sanity Inspector
Yes, they still exist, barely. They're now called Big-K. Most of them in my area shut down, but there's still one.
In fact, when K-Mart was going bust a few years ago and closing stores, the lights on the surviving Big-K's sign malfunctioned. At night, it read Pig-K. I wondered if the store manager was editorializing.
I will never forget the first time I was in a Piggly-Wiggley...
| 716 |
NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:49:59pm |
Sheriff: Man sold his wife for sex on Craigslist
CHICAGO (AP) - A Minnesota man has been arrested in Chicago and charged with selling his wife's sexual services on Craigslist.
Cook County Sheriff Tom Dart says the woman had paid sexual encounters in eight states before she called a national anti-sex trafficking hot line. Dart says she went along with the scheme because her husband had threatened their young child.
The Associated Press doesn't generally identify victims of sexual abuse and isn't naming the man to avoid identifying his wife.
After Dart sued Craigslist last year for promoting prostitution, the company vowed to screen submissions to a new "adult services" section before posting them.
| 717 |
Sheila Broflovski Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:50:07pm |
re: #637 Dark_Falcon
I don't have an good reason, save that he keeps the crazy pressure down in his kingdom. He's the best we've got there (sad to say).
His daddy butchered tens of thousands of Palestinians during "Black September" but everyone seems to have forgotten all about that.
| 718 |
The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:50:22pm |
re: #706 Jimmah
"It's ginger day here at Walmart! If you are ginger, this is your day for big savings in this store!"
We have to work on your UK-US translator a little bit. :)
Ginger = redhead, for people who don't know.
I don't think anyone in the US uses that expression, but maybe I'm wrong. Never heard it myself in the US, anyway.
| 719 |
simoom Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:50:31pm |
Ha, I'd forgotten about this (I haven't played this game since the 80's).
Karateka in 10 seconds:
You were supposed to run into the Princess's arms at the end -- the above is what happened if you didn't.
| 720 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:50:45pm |
| 721 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:51:04pm |
re: #715 brookly red
I will never forget the first time I was in a Piggly-Wiggley...
Or, as we called it, Squirming Swine.
| 722 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:51:04pm |
re: #709 Soap_Man
Yeah, there's one out by my work. But that's the only one I am familiar with in the entire Chicago area. They are dropping like flies.
There's still one of them in Des Plaines, too.
| 723 |
Aye Pod Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:51:16pm |
re: #703 The Sanity Inspector
First time I'd seen it, FWIW.
Twice on this thread, once on a thread earlier on where I was posting. Last person who took to that practice melted down in spectacular fashion soon afterwards.
| 724 |
Sheila Broflovski Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:52:24pm |
re: #718 iceweasel
We have to work on your UK-US translator a little bit. :)
Ginger = redhead, for people who don't know.
I don't think anyone in the US uses that expression, but maybe I'm wrong. Never heard it myself in the US, anyway.
Which reminds me, new South Park episode in 15 minutes!
| 725 |
Digital Display Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:52:57pm |
re: #718 iceweasel
We have to work on your UK-US translator a little bit. :)
Ginger = redhead, for people who don't know.
I don't think anyone in the US uses that expression, but maybe I'm wrong. Never heard it myself in the US, anyway.
I've never heard it myself..
I have heard Redhead=crazy Bitch...But just in the neighborhood..
*wink*
Happy St. Paddy's day Ice and Jimmah!
| 726 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:53:05pm |
re: #721 The Sanity Inspector
Or, as we called it, Squirming Swine.
I got lost in the cheese section... thought I was a goner, till I found the beer section.
| 727 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:53:39pm |
re: #651 NJDhockeyfan
The only things that should be put on Arafat's grave are turds. He was a piece of shit.
| 728 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:53:53pm |
re: #715 brookly red
I will never forget the first time I was in a Piggly-Wiggley...
Just visited my Dad in SC. They call it "The Pig".
Actually went to a brand new "Pig" and it was very fancy!
| 729 |
MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:54:05pm |
re: #716 NJDhockeyfan
Bad things with that headline.
Why not "Husband sold woman"?
Shades of ownership.
| 730 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:54:11pm |
re: #718 iceweasel
We have to work on your UK-US translator a little bit. :)
Ginger = redhead, for people who don't know.
I don't think anyone in the US uses that expression, but maybe I'm wrong. Never heard it myself in the US, anyway.
South Park has had at least one episode about "gingers"...
| 731 |
Aye Pod Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:54:23pm |
re: #718 iceweasel
We have to work on your UK-US translator a little bit. :)
Ginger = redhead, for people who don't know.
I don't think anyone in the US uses that expression, but maybe I'm wrong. Never heard it myself in the US, anyway.
Heh. They used the term in a South Park episode a couple of seasons ago - but then the SP guys do have a lot of UK influences. Not sure how familiar US folks are generally with that one.
| 732 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:55:06pm |
re: #728 Stanley Sea
Just visited my Dad in SC. They call it "The Pig".
Actually went to a brand new "Pig" and it was very fancy!
does Hummer make the shopping carts?
| 733 |
MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:55:11pm |
re: #717 Alouette
His daddy butchered tens of thousands of Palestinians during "Black September" but everyone seems to have forgotten all about that.
He gets a pass.
I don't know why.
Well, I have my theories but, I won't share them.
| 734 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:55:33pm |
re: #718 iceweasel
If you tell people here you have a ginger fanny they'll think you have an Asian root vegetable in your ass.
| 735 |
Daniel Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:55:41pm |
re: #525 MandyManners
Now, now... Sheriff Baca deals with every ethnic here with respect. He has to. He does not have the choice of picking their spokespeople, he has to enforce in the neighborhoods of every kind. If anything ever happens here, you'll see him and his department perform really well.
| 736 |
Soap_Man Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:56:05pm |
re: #718 iceweasel
We have to work on your UK-US translator a little bit. :)
Ginger = redhead, for people who don't know.
I don't think anyone in the US uses that expression, but maybe I'm wrong. Never heard it myself in the US, anyway.
I thought Ginger meant more than just redhead. I thought it was redhead + really pale skin + a lot of freckles.
| 737 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:56:07pm |
re: #728 Stanley Sea
Just visited my Dad in SC. They call it "The Pig".
Actually went to a brand new "Pig" and it was very fancy!
Here in Nashville, "The Pig" is what me and the family calls the Piggly Wiggly down the street, as well.
| 738 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:56:24pm |
re: #718 iceweasel
Ginger = redhead
I've heard "ginger" for as long as I can remember. My favorite term these days is "Daywalker".
[Link: www.southparkstudios.com...]
| 739 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:56:32pm |
re: #731 Jimmah
Heh. They used the term in a South Park episode a couple of seasons ago - but then the SP guys do have a lot of UK influences. Not sure how familiar US folks are generally with that one.
Uh, I've heard Harry referred that way. That's how I know. (gossip page confession)
| 740 |
NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:56:41pm |
Biden mistakenly blesses Irish leader's mother
WASHINGTON — Vice President Joe Biden asked for God's blessing for the late mother of Irish Prime Minister Brian Cowen during a White House celebration of St. Patrick's Day — except the elderly lady is very much alive.
"God rest her soul," Biden said Wednesday night as he introduced Cowen and President Barack Obama. He quickly caught himself and noted that it's Cowen's father who is no longer living. Of the prime minister's mother, Biden said, "God bless her soul."
Biden then cited the Irish proverb that "a silent mouth is sweet to hear" and yielded the podium to the president.
| 741 |
MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:56:41pm |
re: #735 Rightwingconspirator
Now, now... Sheriff Baca deals with every ethnic here with respect. He has to. He does not have the choice of picking their spokespeople, he has to enforce in the neighborhoods of every kind. If anything ever happens here, you'll see him and his department perform really well.
Bless his heart.
| 743 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:56:50pm |
re: #727 Dark_Falcon
The only things that should be put on Arafat's grave are turds. He was a piece of shit.
I was thinking a parking lot...
| 744 |
The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:57:21pm |
re: #734 Killgore Trout
If you tell people here you have a ginger fanny they'll think you have an Asian root vegetable in your ass.
Ha! And also, ewwww...
| 746 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:57:56pm |
re: #732 brookly red
does Hummer make the shopping carts?
They were just normal carts, thank goodness. As someone above said though, nice cheese section.
| 747 |
MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:58:03pm |
| 748 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:58:43pm |
| 749 |
Aye Pod Wed, Mar 17, 2010 6:59:34pm |
To add to the ginger confusion, in Scotland it also means what you guys call 'soda'. I.e. coke, fizzy orange juice etc.
| 750 |
The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:00:08pm |
re: #738 negativ
I've heard "ginger" for as long as I can remember. My favorite term these days is "Daywalker".
[Link: www.southparkstudios.com...]
Oh cool! And funny. Wow, I had no idea the term was so widespread in the US-- i was extrapolating from my own prior ignorance of it, i guess. Fail!
My own dialect is seriously screwed up at this point. I can hardly remember which I'm employing and what terms where.
re: #736 Soap_Man
I thought Ginger meant more than just redhead. I thought it was redhead + really pale skin + a lot of freckles.
Yep, that was my understanding.
| 751 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:00:27pm |
re: #746 Stanley Sea
They were just normal carts, thank goodness. As someone above said though, nice cheese section.
I have never seen cheese sold by the sq foot before...
| 752 |
keloyd Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:01:17pm |
re: #711 Alouette
That's why they are all held to such nugatory standards, right? And they get to keep their palaces and their limos and their vast swathes of land.
Well, yes. Wait, nugatory is a real word(!) In the Roman empire or medieval Scotland, you routinely run across 10 leaders in a row who get the job by killing their predecessor. There's nothing moreal about it, except that's just how it is. We as outsiders can't help them evolve much. That said, the current king Abdullah, given the choices available to him, given the hatred and medieval mindset he was likely raised with, given the backwardness of his subjects, could be much worse.
| 753 |
NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:01:26pm |
NY Gov.'s press aide quits in scandal; 4th to fall
ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) - Gov. David Paterson's press secretary on Wednesday became the fourth top staffer to quit amid dual scandals, resigning just hours after her boss publicly proclaimed for the first time that he did nothing wrong when he talked to a woman who had accused one of his top aides of abuse.
Paterson also said Wednesday on a radio show that Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, whom he appointed to the seat, threw him "under the bus" by suggesting he might have to resign over his role in the abuse allegations.
| 754 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:03:46pm |
| 755 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:03:47pm |
| 756 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:03:47pm |
re: #735 Rightwingconspirator
Now, now... Sheriff Baca deals with every ethnic here with respect. He has to. He does not have the choice of picking their spokespeople, he has to enforce in the neighborhoods of every kind. If anything ever happens here, you'll see him and his department perform really well.
Yes. I see contradictions here. Often folks will say "locals can better handle local issues." Then the sentiment is the local sheriff is wrong in handling his local issue. It's BS.
| 757 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:04:20pm |
| 758 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:04:53pm |
re: #723 Jimmah
Twice on this thread, once on a thread earlier on where I was posting. Last person who took to that practice melted down in spectacular fashion soon afterwards.
Doubt that there's any danger of that in Mandy's case.
| 759 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:05:03pm |
re: #755 albusteve
there should be a voters money back guarantee
I was just thinking we should have the Gov. of the month club...
| 760 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:05:32pm |
re: #749 Jimmah
To add to the ginger confusion, in Scotland it also means what you guys call 'soda'. I.e. coke, fizzy orange juice etc.
Heh. Some folks call it "Pop". Depends on what part of the country you are from!
*waves*
Hi Jimmah!
| 761 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:05:53pm |
| 762 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:06:15pm |
| 763 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:07:21pm |
re: #762 brookly red
true, but his sarcasm is word class.
must be a New Yorker...a sarcastic, New York slut
| 764 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:07:23pm |
re: #734 Killgore Trout
Hey, KT! Are you well & warm? Hope all is well.
| 765 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:08:07pm |
re: #760 Floral Giraffe
Heh. Some folks call it "Pop". Depends on what part of the country you are from!
*waves*
Hi Jimmah!
"Soft drink", hereabouts.
| 766 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:08:15pm |
re: #761 Dark_Falcon
I might be bad year for the Dems in the Empire State. I hope it is.
well if Wall Street has anything to say about it (and I suspect they do) it will be.
| 767 |
Aye Pod Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:08:42pm |
re: #760 Floral Giraffe
Heh. Some folks call it "Pop". Depends on what part of the country you are from!
*waves*
Hi Jimmah!
Hi FG! In answer to your question last night which I didn't see in time - yes I'm still doing all the exercises for my arm. Making the usual slow gradual progress - I'm hoping that in another 3 months or so I might actually be able to scratch my back with my left hand again!
| 768 |
Digital Display Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:08:47pm |
I'm recording part one of the HBO mini series..Pacific..
It just started
| 769 |
NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:08:52pm |
Mafia Boss Betrayed By Facebook
One of Italy's 100 most-wanted criminals, a vicious mafia boss who had been on the run for months, was betrayed by his passion for social networking and flushed out thanks to Facebook.
Using the name "Scarface" from the gangster movie starring Al Pacino, Pasquale Manfredi, 33, a boss of the the ferocious 'Ndrangheta mafia organization from the Calabria region in southern Italy, had logged on to his Facebook account so often that police were able to trace the signal from his Internet key and find his hideout.
| 770 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:08:55pm |
re: #763 albusteve
must be a New Yorker...a sarcastic, New York slut
you say that as if it was a bad thing...
| 771 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:09:19pm |
re: #765 The Sanity Inspector
Soda, Pop, , Soda Pop, Soft drink, all are the same, but the neighborhood varies! Fizzy sugar waters, all!
| 772 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:10:20pm |
re: #767 Jimmah
I hope you'll be able to reach, that little bit, that always itches!
Keep up the good work!
| 773 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:10:58pm |
re: #770 brookly red
you say that as if it was a bad thing...
it's how they get by up there...okay by me
| 774 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:12:33pm |
re: #768 HoosierHoops
I'm recording part one of the HBO mini series..Pacific..
It just started
I shoulda bought that show, now I'm disappointed I didn't....I hope it comes out on DVD in a reasonable amt of time...Band of Brothers was truly epic
| 775 |
freetoken Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:12:36pm |
Speaking of women as property:
Forced and early marriages still common for girls in Afghanistan
Narwin is just 14 years old, but she is already engaged to a man that she has never set eyes on.
"My parents say they do not care if I'm happy or not," she said. "They want me marry and that's it."
Forced and early marriages entrap girls and deprive them of their basic rights. In forced marriages, one of the partners is not willing to participate and varying degrees of coercion are involved. In arranged marriages, the families play a leading role, but the individuals getting married can supposedly choose whether to marry or not. In many cases, the border between forced and arranged marriage is imperceptible.
[....]
Forced marriage is a cultural practice in Afghanistan. Marriages are used to settle debts or to strengthen family status through social alliances. Poor families consider a daughter as an economic burden who must be married quickly to reduce the financial strain. With the ongoing conflict in Afghanistan many parents aim to marry their daughters at young ages to secure their futures.
[...]
| 776 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:12:52pm |
re: #764 Floral Giraffe
Hey, KT! Are you well & warm? Hope all is well.
I'm doing well, staying warm and recovering financially. How's it with you?
| 777 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:13:29pm |
oh, and one the blasphemy report, today I saw fried sushi...
| 778 |
The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:14:19pm |
re: #772 Floral Giraffe
I hope you'll be able to reach, that little bit, that always itches!
Keep up the good work!
In just a couple of days, I'll be able to do that for him!
(he's coming here to the US)
How are you FG? How's the gardening? Hope you're well!
| 779 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:14:36pm |
Ailes to the DC Staff: No More Shooting Inside the Tent
Ailes then turned to the issue of Monday's Washington Post story, in which Howard Kurtz wrote about "tension" over Glenn Beck. "There is a deep split within Fox between those who are supportive, and many journalists who are worried about the prospect that Beck is becoming the face of the network," wrote Kurtz.
Signaling that Kurtz's sources came from within the DC bureau, Ailes said, "For the first time in our 14 years we've had people apparently shooting in the tent, from within the tent."
"Glenn Beck, does his show and that's his opinion. It's not the opinion of FOX News and he has a right to say it," added Ailes. "We prefer people in the tent not dumping on other people in the tent."
And in a challenge to those employees, Ailes said, "I was brought up to defend the family. If I couldn't defend the family I'd leave. I'd go to another family."
[Link: www.mediabistro.com...]
Basically confirming the WaPo anonymous sources.
| 780 |
freetoken Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:16:38pm |
re: #779 Stanley Sea
Also confirms that Ailes thinks like a cultist.
| 781 |
William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:17:17pm |
re: #636 WindUpBird
Yay! I never had a Vic, but my best friend as a kid did. I had an Atari 400. We got into many arguments about which was more awesome. :D I didn't really get into the BBS scene until I got my Atari ST. A screaming 2400 Baud modem to give me my first taste of being an online nuisance.
I really didn't get into BBS's much until I got an Amiga 500. A 40 mb sidecar hard drive & a 2400 baud modem.
But I really preferred being in school and having access to usenet. That would have been right around the time of the great renaming.
The most fun in those days was probably my pawnshop find - an XT with a full hieght 10mb MFM drive, Hercules graphics card & the full 640kb. I ran Minix on that - Whoot! - Multitasking without memory protection on a 8088! Fragile file system! Watch those stacks run into each other & crash the whole thing! Try to salvage the filesystem inode by inode yet again! :) That was the way to learn Unix & why I still prefer it decades later.
William
| 782 |
Aye Pod Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:17:22pm |
re: #778 iceweasel
In just a couple of days, I'll be able to do that for him!
(he's coming here to the US)
I have to confess, I've been secretly looking forward to that :) No more writhing around on the bed trying to achieve a 'friction scratch'.
| 783 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:18:02pm |
re: #782 Jimmah
I have to confess, I've been secretly looking forward to that :) No more writhing around on the bed trying to achieve a 'friction scratch'.
get a back scratcher Einstein
| 784 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:18:22pm |
| 785 |
Soap_Man Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:19:33pm |
re: #779 Stanley Sea
"Glenn Beck, does his show and that's his opinion. It's not the opinion of FOX News and he has a right to say it," added Ailes. "We prefer people in the tent not dumping on other people in the tent."
Well, that's just tough shit ain't it. He's the face of the network, like it or not.
| 786 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:20:03pm |
I predicted this one a long time ago..... (via Instapundit)
POWER LINE: These Are The Good Old Days. “If Obamacare passes, President Obama and the Democrats will become part of, and perhaps dominate, most of these conversations. Every excessive wait, every missed phone call, every postponed appointment will become Obama’s fault. . . . These complaints won’t be confined to the elderly. Old people complain more about their dealings with doctors primarily because they spend so much more time with them. But I’ve never met a person who likes being blown off by a doctor or sitting for 40 minutes in the waiting room, plus an extra 15 in the examining room before the doctor arrives. Nor have I ever met a person who enjoys hearing his or her aging parents complain about their medical service, especially when the complaint is justified.”
Once Healthcare reform passes the wingnuts are going to crow and cheer over every American who dies. I can see one of the running tally billboards now.
| 789 |
keloyd Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:21:48pm |
Breaking news -
Remember the Lockerbie Bomber who went to Libya to die...7 months ago? Turns out he's still alive and may live another 5 years(!)
| 790 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:22:15pm |
re: #787 Jimmah
I'm allergic to them.
both my laundry girls are professionally trained scratchers...
| 791 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:22:28pm |
re: #786 Killgore Trout
Seattle Times is running a story that Walgreens (in that state) is not taking on any more Medicade...
[Link: seattletimes.nwsource.com...]
make of this what you will.
| 792 |
MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:22:39pm |
re: #789 keloyd
Breaking news -
Remember the Lockerbie Bomber who went to Libya to die...7 months ago? Turns out he's still alive and may live another 5 years(!)
He got better.
| 793 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:22:50pm |
re: #776 Killgore Trout
Farging hot here. Where'd my Spring go? It was 90 here, today.
Not so good for the plants!
| 794 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:22:58pm |
re: #771 Floral Giraffe
Soda, Pop, , Soda Pop, Soft drink, all are the same, but the neighborhood varies! Fizzy sugar waters, all!
It's been too long ago for me to remember when Coke & such were made with sugar instead of corn syrup. But, I rather like Jones Soda, made with sugar cane.
| 795 |
MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:23:29pm |
BHO is sucking up to Ghadaffi and
Oh, just stop.
| 796 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:23:51pm |
| 797 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:23:55pm |
re: #778 iceweasel
I always visualize a guy, or a bear, rubbing his back against the door frame.
Scratch that itch!
| 798 |
MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:25:18pm |
| 799 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:25:25pm |
re: #797 Floral Giraffe
I always visualize a guy, or a bear, rubbing his back against the door frame.
Scratch that itch!
yeah...Jimmah probably keeps a door frame handy in bed, just in case
| 800 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:26:04pm |
re: #794 The Sanity Inspector
It's been too long ago for me to remember when Coke & such were made with sugar instead of corn syrup. But, I rather like Jones Soda, made with sugar cane.
I've got multiple cases of Pepsi Throwback stocked up for gaming events. Great stuff, and I think Sam's Club still has some in 18-can packs.
| 801 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:26:09pm |
| 802 |
freetoken Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:26:47pm |
re: #786 Killgore Trout
Local talker, sometimes Limbaugh substitute, former mayor, and now WND contributor Roger Hedgecock has been doing that lately with all the drug gang killings in Mexico. Yesterday he was ranting on about how Nixon closed the border when an American official was killed down there decades ago, but now that Obama is in office and with the death of the two US foreign service personnel the other day the onus is on Obama to do likewise, and if Obama doesn't close the border then that means Obama won't defend the country, or something like that.
And by "close the border" he means that literally - no passage of people or goods across las lineas.
And then these same people (all the wingnuts) turn around and say Obama wants to destroy the economy, etc.
The revanchists are in full on ooze-mode now... anything and everything that is absurd will be claimed.
| 803 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:27:00pm |
| 804 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:27:08pm |
re: #727 Dark_Falcon
The only things that should be put on Arafat's grave are turds. He was a piece of shit.
Nah. Rather than turds, I'd prefer an all-nude strip club that serves alcohol 24/7, and advertises that Muslims pay no admission charge.
If you're gonna poke 'em in the eye, make it count.
| 805 |
MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:27:15pm |
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
| 806 |
Aye Pod Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:27:16pm |
Chaharshanbe Souri Report
Up and down the country, from east to west, the Islamic Regime was resisted by the people, note the protesters in Lorestan, Esfahan, Shiraz and so on. Are these the same North Tehran rich kids that George Galloway goes on about? :))) Is this also the same country which Flynt Leverett and CASMII declared “is in no way a society on the verge of fundamental political upheaval”? :))
The misguided propaganda of Islamic Republic apologists aside, we can see that this is yet another step towards freedom and the final overthrowing of the Islamic Republic. The bravery of the people of Iran will pay off.
[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]
| 807 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:28:15pm |
re: #806 Jimmah
Chaharshanbe Souri Report
[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]
Very good news. Thank you, Jimmah.
| 808 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:29:29pm |
re: #802 freetoken
Thank you for listening to Hedgecock, so I don't have to. Last time I loved how you reiterated, the SD Mayor who had to resign because of criminal activity. Just like Liddy, formal criminals with radio talk shows.
Cheers.
| 809 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:29:50pm |
re: #805 MandyManners
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Wow?
| 810 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:29:52pm |
re: #802 freetoken
Local talker, sometimes Limbaugh substitute, former mayor, and now WND contributor Roger Hedgecock has been doing that lately with all the drug gang killings in Mexico. Yesterday he was ranting on about how Nixon closed the border when an American official was killed down there decades ago, but now that Obama is in office and with the death of the two US foreign service personnel the other day the onus is on Obama to do likewise, and if Obama doesn't close the border then that means Obama won't defend the country, or something like that.
And by "close the border" he means that literally - no passage of people or goods across las lineas.
And then these same people (all the wingnuts) turn around and say Obama wants to destroy the economy, etc.
The revanchists are in full on ooze-mode now... anything and everything that is absurd will be claimed.
this is how the BO admin is handling it...
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
| 811 |
keloyd Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:30:01pm |
If Mossad was uninvolved in the accident that befell that other Hamas(?) guy a few weeks ago, and Mossad never uses Australian passports to commit their mischief, I wonder if they will also not visit this guy, maybe soon.
Russia and China treat these scenarios with a firm hand, then terrorists don't try any nonsense on them. Just sayin.
| 812 |
prairiefire Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:30:57pm |
re: #790 albusteve
both my laundry girls are professionally trained scratchers...
I am not touching that one with a ten foot....oh, never mind.
| 813 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:31:19pm |
re: #793 Floral Giraffe
Ouch. Keep things watered the best you can.
| 815 |
simoom Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:31:39pm |
re: #623 Walter L. Newton
I wrote the fist bulletin board system to run on the Vic-20, written in VicBasic, need the 16k expansion memory cartridge, a Hayes 300 modem and a 1541 floppy drive. TimeWorks out of Chicago sold it for me... you had to make your own rs232 cable between the non-standard Vic RS232 bus and the Hayes.
It was called "The Softboard."
Cool!
When I was a kid I briefly ran a BBS (for about a week). Being Sysop was fun, and it was amazing how quickly you could get lots of folks calling in once you listed a new BBS at a popular old one, but I couldn't take having the computer & 2nd phone line tied up all the time :P.
| 816 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:31:43pm |
re: #717 Alouette
His daddy butchered tens of thousands of Palestinians during "Black September" but everyone seems to have forgotten all about that.
You know how people talk about the varying values of human life in the media and to people listening at home, depending on the nationality of the victims? One American equals three hundred Europeans equals a hundred thousand Thais?
The Palestinians exist in not one but two such currencies. Palestinians killed by Israelis have an exponentially greater value than Palestinians killed by other Arabs.
Sick, but true.
BTW, my MIL's cancer has come back, it's stage four and they're not gonna treat. She's retiring. This news was IMed to me by her spouse, who is absolutely nuts, with a request to pass the message along to my husband.
Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.
OK, better now.
| 817 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:31:55pm |
re: #718 iceweasel
We have to work on your UK-US translator a little bit. :)
Ginger = redhead, for people who don't know.
I don't think anyone in the US uses that expression, but maybe I'm wrong. Never heard it myself in the US, anyway.
Introduced to us all by South Park.
| 819 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:32:23pm |
re: #811 keloyd
If Mossad was uninvolved in the accident that befell that other Hamas(?) guy a few weeks ago, and Mossad never uses Australian passports to commit their mischief, I wonder if they will also not visit this guy, maybe soon.
Russia and China treat these scenarios with a firm hand, then terrorists don't try any nonsense on them. Just sayin.
well they have had some issues too, but they are usually resolved quickly.
| 820 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:32:34pm |
re: #802 freetoken
The revanchists are in full on ooze-mode now... anything and everything that is absurd will be claimed.
Things are weird out there these days.
| 821 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:33:03pm |
re: #816 SanFranciscoZionist
. . .
BTW, my MIL's cancer has come back, it's stage four and they're not gonna treat. She's retiring. This news was IMed to me by her spouse, who is absolutely nuts, with a request to pass the message along to my husband.Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.
OK, better now.
Oh, hell.
So sorry.
| 822 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:33:05pm |
re: #721 The Sanity Inspector
Or, as we called it, Squirming Swine.
There's a novel set in the Orthodox Jewish community of Memphis, The Ladies' Auxiliary, by Tova Mirvis--very good read--and one of the characters refuses to buy even kosher products at the Piggly Wiggly because she feels the name just trayfs the whole operation.
| 823 |
freetoken Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:33:10pm |
re: #808 Stanley Sea
Hedgecock won the appeal, as the appeals court rule (rightly so) that there was some entrapment. Of course, that begs the question of why Hedgecock was running around with Dominelli in the first place, a subject Hedgecock avoids.
I only listen to talk radio when I am driving in the afternoons, which fortunately for me means only a couple of times a month. So I am spared the burden of listening to the talkers.
SoCal is full of wingnut talkers, and wingnut listeners.
| 824 |
Digital Display Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:33:40pm |
re: #778 iceweasel
In just a couple of days, I'll be able to do that for him!
(he's coming here to the US)How are you FG? How's the gardening? Hope you're well!
That is wonderful news...Please note for the first time ever I included you and Jimmah on the prayer list Sunday.. We prayed that the Lord would bring you together and live happily forever.. I'm telling you Lizards.. There is some Monk Reading LGF Sunday mornings living in Tibet with God's Cell phone number..
Cause I get emails every week.. And trust me..It ain't me that the Lord has been listening to.. For 6 months I've been kind of stunned...
There have been so many wonderful stories here.. It's not like I ask you to lay your hands on the TV and send in a hundred bucks every week..
Lizards have asked for help.. And God has answered many prayers..
There has got to be some super dupper religious monk reading the prayer list every week from on top of a mountain somewhere with high speed Internet..
| 825 |
Aye Pod Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:33:46pm |
re: #805 MandyManners
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
NEWSFLASH: We are now in the year 2010.
| 826 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:34:34pm |
re: #816 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh, sad... Vent away, anytime.
| 827 |
brookly red Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:34:49pm |
OK time to go celebrate St. P's day...
see ya.
| 828 |
NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:35:04pm |
Simon Cowell to convert to Islam to marry girlfriend?
Mezhgan Hussainy's family wants music mogul Simon Cowell to convert to Islam before he marries her, says a report.
The 'American Idol' judge had proposed to Hussainy last week.
'They're very westernised, but no one in their family has ever married a non-Muslim - and they're not willing for their youngest daughter to become the first,' digitalspy.co.uk quoted a source as saying about Hussainy's parents Mary and Sayed.
Hussainy's sister-in-law Erlene Garcia was also asked to convert before marrying her brother Wahid.
According to Hussainy's friend, 'Mezhgan is very reluctant about asking Simon to convert...and she knows how controversial it will be.'
'Simon might be a big deal in the UK, but there are other people in the Afghan community in Los Angeles who her parents will be more afraid of offending. It would bring shame on their family and community if Simon did not respect their beliefs,' the friend added.
| 830 |
Sheila Broflovski Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:36:02pm |
re: #794 The Sanity Inspector
It's been too long ago for me to remember when Coke & such were made with sugar instead of corn syrup. But, I rather like Jones Soda, made with sugar cane.
Coca-Cola kosher for Passover is available now in most groceries that sell Passover products.
| 831 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:36:11pm |
| 832 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:36:44pm |
| 833 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:37:00pm |
| 834 |
The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:37:02pm |
re: #817 SanFranciscoZionist
Introduced to us all by South Park.
Yeah, a few folks upthread were kind enough to clue me in!
So sorry to hear about your MIL, SFZ. My sympathies.
| 835 |
Soap_Man Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:37:15pm |
re: #824 HoosierHoops
That is wonderful news...Please note for the first time ever I included you and Jimmah on the prayer list Sunday.. We prayed that the Lord would bring you together and live happily forever.. I'm telling you Lizards.. There is some Monk Reading LGF Sunday mornings living in Tibet with God's Cell phone number..
Cause I get emails every week.. And trust me..It ain't me that the Lord has been listening to.. For 6 months I've been kind of stunned...
There have been so many wonderful stories here.. It's not like I ask you to lay your hands on the TV and send in a hundred bucks every week..
Lizards have asked for help.. And God has answered many prayers..
There has got to be some super dupper religious monk reading the prayer list every week from on top of a mountain somewhere with high speed Internet..
You're good people, Hoops.
| 836 |
MandyManners Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:37:32pm |
re: #805 MandyManners
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Wow. Dinging-down Charles' blog?
| 838 |
jaunte Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:38:21pm |
re: #816 SanFranciscoZionist
Very sorry to hear about your MiL, SFZ.
| 839 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:38:54pm |
re: #832 albusteve
what's up today?...hmmm...I guess I'll convert to Islam!
Steve - it ties so well with your AmIdol political quotes!
| 840 |
The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:39:20pm |
re: #824 HoosierHoops
Oh Hoops, how lovely of you! Thank you so much for all you do, for everyone.
| 841 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:39:55pm |
re: #836 MandyManners
Wow. Dinging-down Charles' blog?
while they eat waffles...heh...history is so dead unless if 'Bush did it' of course...BO is such a poseur
| 842 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:41:21pm |
re: #839 Stanley Sea
Steve - it ties so well with your AmIdol political quotes!
he should run for office!
| 843 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:41:25pm |
re: #830 Alouette
Coca-Cola kosher for Passover is available now in most groceries that sell Passover products.
Ooh, ooh, I had forgotten about that! I've been meaning to try it. Thanks!
| 844 |
The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:42:16pm |
re: #836 MandyManners
Wow. Dinging-down Charles' blog?
Nah. Just you. Your spamming and your shit-stirring. You've been at it all day and it's tiresome.
| 845 |
NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:42:50pm |
US is preparing to strike Iran's nuke facilities: Report
Stepping up its preparations for a possible strike on Iran's nuclear facilities, the United States is transporting hundreds of 387 'bunker-buster' bombs to its air base on the British island of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean, a media report has claimed.
The US government signed a contract in January with Superior Maritime Services to transport 10 ammunition containers to Diego Garcia from Concord, California, Sunday Herald has reported.
The shipment includes 195 smart, guided Blu-110 bombs and 192 Blu-117 2,000lb bombs.
The key Iranian nuclear facilities are said to be underground and both these type of bombs are effective against reinforced or underground facilities.
The United States and Israel have repeatedly asserted that they do not rule out a military action to stop Iran's nuclear ambitions and that they are keeping all the options on the table.
Contract details for the shipment were posted on an international tenders' website by the US Navy.
"They are gearing up totally for the destruction of Iran," Dan Plesch, director of the Centre for International Studies and Diplomacy at the University of London, said."US bombers are ready today to destroy 10,000 targets in Iran in a few hours," Plesch, who is the co-author of a recent study on the US preparations for an attack on Iran, stressed.
Does Obama have the stones to do this?
| 846 |
Soap_Man Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:43:11pm |
re: #836 MandyManners
Wow. Dinging-down Charles' blog?
Upding. I don't see anything wrong with referring to previous LGF on, you know, LGF.
| 847 |
sngnsgt Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:43:18pm |
re: #798 MandyManners
Low humidity.
If we could just get rid of Prince Harry out here in NV, everyday would be filled with sunshine.
| 848 |
Soap_Man Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:43:40pm |
re: #846 Soap_Man
Upding. I don't see anything wrong with referring to previous LGF postson, you know, LGF.
PIMF
| 850 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:44:05pm |
Hey everyone. Bad music news, RIP Alex Chilton
[Link: www.rollingstone.com...]
| 851 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:44:19pm |
re: #830 Alouette
Coca-Cola kosher for Passover is available now in most groceries that sell Passover products.
I'll make sure to look for it. Will try to get a Dominick's that might carry it tomorrow. I have an all-day interview first. It's a second interview, so hopefully I'll have a new job within a week.
| 852 |
Aye Pod Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:44:34pm |
re: #836 MandyManners
Wow. Dinging-down Charles' blog?
No, downdinging your attempt to live in the past, Mandy.
| 853 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:44:42pm |
re: #845 NJDhockeyfan
US is preparing to strike Iran's nuke facilities: Report
Does Obama have the stones to do this?
We covered this this morning. I think it's a distraction. Watch the other hand, not the one that's moving.
| 854 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:45:07pm |
re: #805 MandyManners
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
It's completely valid to point these out. Downdings (while meaningless, in the Big Scheme of Things) are unwarranted. Ideas and opinions should be discussed and debated and otherwise bitched about. Ideas and opinions can change. Isn't that the whole point of arguing with people who hold different ideas?
| 855 |
Daniel Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:46:12pm |
re: #816 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh no. So sorry.
| 856 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:46:29pm |
re: #854 negativ
It's completely valid to point these out. Downdings (while meaningless, in the Big Scheme of Things) are unwarranted. Ideas and opinions should be discussed and debated and otherwise bitched about. Ideas and opinions can change. Isn't that the whole point of arguing with people who hold different ideas?
What?
| 857 |
jaunte Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:46:30pm |
re: #854 negativ
The argument may need a little more present-day text to be clear.
| 858 |
Soap_Man Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:47:13pm |
re: #849 jaunte
Hey, you healed fast!
Yeah, It's all good. I'm actually really bored. I'm staying at my parents house so mom can take care of me. :)
I mentioned it upthread, but it was a quick procedure (about an hour and a half) and it went really well. Doc even told me I could go back to work Friday since I'm a desk jockey, but the boss told me to finish out the week working from home.
| 859 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:47:32pm |
re: #844 iceweasel
Nah. Just you. Your spamming and your shit-stirring. You've been at it all day and it's tiresome.
seems at least as important as your personal life...imo....I guess it depends on the definition of spamming who's posting it eh?...just my opinion
| 860 |
The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:47:55pm |
re: #854 negativ
Ideas and opinions should be discussed and debated and otherwise bitched about. Ideas and opinions can change. Isn't that the whole point of arguing with people who hold different ideas?
Of course it is.
But what exactly is the point of posting random posts from LGF back in the day, without any comment whatsoever?
And doing it repeatedly?
It serves the same purpose as 'random' Tourette's like outbursts ostensibly addressed to no one, like "asshole!"
Someone's acting out.
| 861 |
Aye Pod Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:48:23pm |
re: #854 negativ
It's completely valid to point these out. Downdings (while meaningless, in the Big Scheme of Things) are unwarranted. Ideas and opinions should be discussed and debated and otherwise bitched about. Ideas and opinions can change. Isn't that the whole point of arguing with people who hold different ideas?
| 862 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:49:11pm |
re: #860 iceweasel
Of course it is.
But what exactly is the point of posting random posts from LGF back in the day, without any comment whatsoever?And doing it repeatedly?
It serves the same purpose as 'random' Tourette's like outbursts ostensibly addressed to no one, like "asshole!"
Someone's acting out.
just scroll past by...no need to get nasty about it
| 863 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:49:40pm |
| 864 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:50:12pm |
| 865 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:50:19pm |
| 867 |
jaunte Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:50:44pm |
Cartoon break!
Image: passive-aggressive-orange.gif
| 870 |
NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:52:25pm |
Iran to host nuclear disarmament conference in April: spokesman
An Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman said Iran will host a nuclear disarmament conference in April in Tehran, the state IRIB TV reported Wednesday.
"A conference on nuclear and weapons of mass destruction disarmament dubbed 'Nuclear Energy for All, Nuclear Weapons for None' is to be held on April 17-18 in Tehran," Ramin Mehman-Parast was quoted as saying.
The conference will discuss ways to reach the goal of a world without nuclear weapons as well as supervisory methods, said Mehman-Parast.
Prominent political and scientific figures from different countries will attend the conference, according to IRIB.
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Aye Pod Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:52:27pm |
re: #859 albusteve
seems at least as important as your personal life...imo...I guess it depends on the definition of spamming who's posting it eh?...just my opinion
Everybody posts some personal stuff, albusteve. And why shouldn't they? In the context of all the political and cultural comment and analysis that iceweasel posts, it's pretty insignificant, so take your gripe and shove it.
| 872 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:52:34pm |
re: #868 PT Barnum
Hey everybuddy..wha's goin' on?
Everyone is drunk and you have to drive us all home. Sorry.
/Can we stop at Taco Bell?
| 873 |
Mr. Crankypants Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:52:37pm |
| 874 |
jaunte Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:52:52pm |
re: #869 iceweasel
Every so often they hit one out of the park.
| 875 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:52:54pm |
re: #282 Obdicut
Indeed. My grandmother would lecture anyone using 'Frisco' at great length.
now, the dark part is: My fiancee also got accepted at Caltech. We are leaning heavily against it, but there's the possibility that I might have to move to god-damned-Pasadena.
I hate LA. I don't drive, I don't care about the gliteratti, and I've never had a positive experience visiting LA that wasn't tinged with some form of rankness.
Still, it's really unlikely we'll go there. It's not an MSTP program, so it's not nearly as prestigious to get into even if Caltech is a more prestigious school. And the med school is just U of Southern California, which is less prestigious than NYU. Plus the students tend to take a long time with their PhDs.
I wish you both all the best. May I suggest that you get the question of who's going to school where and when pounded flat now. A fellow I once knew married the girlfriend he had had through most of college. Big, lavish affair. He wanted to go to graduate school in one town, she wanted to go to a different grad school in another town. They had neglected to compromise on that trifle before getting hitched, and they divorced practically before their wedding cake was consumed. Terrible train wreck. I'm not saying that anything like that is in store for you, g-d forbid, but the fewer surprises along those lines the better.
Marriage resembles a pair of shears, so joined that they cannot be separated; often moving in opposite directions, yet always punishing any one who comes between them.
--Sydney Smith
| 876 |
Mr. Crankypants Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:53:17pm |
re: #872 Cannadian Club Akbar
Everyone is drunk and you have to drive us all home. Sorry.
/Can we stop at Taco Bell?
As long as you don't ralph in my back seat..no problem
| 877 |
Aye Pod Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:53:53pm |
re: #864 Walter L. Newton
...and that settles that!
No, the fact that you objected to it is what seals the deal :D
| 878 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:54:43pm |
re: #816 SanFranciscoZionist
Very sorry to hear that.
| 879 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:54:50pm |
re: #858 Soap_Man
Yeah, It's all good. I'm actually really bored. I'm staying at my parents house so mom can take care of me. :)
I mentioned it upthread, but it was a quick procedure (about an hour and a half) and it went really well. Doc even told me I could go back to work Friday since I'm a desk jockey, but the boss told me to finish out the week working from home.
Upding, for your Mom!
| 880 |
The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:55:16pm |
Spreading Santorum...
Santorum: Democrats are Worried Obama May Go to Indonesia and Bow to More Muslims
Santorum: I think the Democrats actually worry he may go to Indonesia and bow to more Muslims. I think that's sort of the concern that every time he seems to go to these other countries he comes back or starts some sort of controversy that hits his popularity. I'm serious, I think...Van Susteren: So you're not being sarcastic?
Santorum: I'm not being sarcastic. I think... I'm not... I'm being sarcastic with bowing to a Muslim, but I'm saying he has not had his trips overseas go over well here in the United States. I mean the apology tour and some of the other things... what went on in Israel this past week with the Vice President. It's not working out well for them.
Bowgate lives on!
| 881 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:56:10pm |
re: #871 Jimmah
Everybody posts some personal stuff, albusteve. And why shouldn't they? In the context of all the political and cultural comment and analysis that iceweasel posts, it's pretty insignificant, so take your gripe and shove it.
I'm merely responding to your gripe...let people post whatever they want, you don't have to jump down on every post you don't like...don't be so tense bro, let it go
| 882 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:56:54pm |
re: #880 iceweasel
Spreading Santorum...
Santorum: Democrats are Worried Obama May Go to Indonesia and Bow to More Muslims
Bowgate lives on!
To be fair, he's not in office, so he's out of the loop as to the wingnut walking point du jour :D
| 883 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:57:02pm |
Interview with fiance of murdered Iranian protester Neda Agha-Soltan
SPIEGEL: What motivated her?
Makan: She suffered under the regime. As a student, she was patronized and told what to do: How she should wear her headscarf, what make-up and what kind of lipstick was allowed. Freedom was a very big issue for her.
SPIEGEL: Were you and Neda aware of the danger?
Makan: We had a feeling that something would happen. I wanted to keep her from protesting, but Neda said: Even if I get hit by a bullet, the freedom of my people is more important.
| 884 |
Soap_Man Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:57:27pm |
re: #879 Floral Giraffe
Upding, for your Mom!
:)
The only problem is that there is nothing to do here. I'm currently watching old Price is Right episodes on her Tivo!
| 885 |
prairiefire Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:57:34pm |
re: #872 Cannadian Club Akbar
Funny! I am sure that exact scene is occurring all across the country at this moment.
| 886 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:57:49pm |
re: #883 The Sanity Inspector
Interview with fiance of murdered Iranian protester Neda Agha-Soltan
2009 is calling.
| 887 |
darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:57:54pm |
re: #880 iceweasel
Spreading Santorum...
Santorum: Democrats are Worried Obama May Go to Indonesia and Bow to More Muslims
Bowgate lives on!
Isn't Santorum a word for anal leakage? Yep...first link on google if you search for 'santorum'
| 888 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:58:47pm |
re: #882 WindUpBird
To be fair, he's not in office, so he's out of the loop as to the wingnut walking point du jour :D
he's an Honorary Member...the Loop is wide and deep
| 889 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:58:55pm |
| 890 |
prairiefire Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:58:56pm |
re: #882 WindUpBird
I ordered my Tshirt. I will post a photo of it when it gets here.
| 891 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:59:40pm |
| 892 |
NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 7:59:47pm |
Obama Says Louisiana Purchase Will Help With Earthquake In Hawaii
| 893 |
The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:00:07pm |
re: #887 darthstar
Isn't Santorum a word for anal leakage? Yep...first link on google if you search for 'santorum'
It was created in honour of Santorum, specifically his homophobia and comments about gay marriage leading to men and dogs getting married or something equally silly. Dan Savage ran a contest to create a definition and spread it. There was a website up for a while, IIRC.
| 894 |
freetoken Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:00:13pm |
re: #880 iceweasel
Spreading Santorum...
Santorum: Democrats are Worried Obama May Go to Indonesia and Bow to More Muslims
Bowgate lives on!
Yeah, the nuts are back onto bowgate. "Bowing" was mentioned my VDH in the essay linked by someone earlier today.
| 895 |
The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:01:04pm |
re: #882 WindUpBird
To be fair, he's not in office, so he's out of the loop as to the wingnut walking point du jour :D
What I'm wondering is why anyone cares what he thinks at this point. But it's Fox, so there you go.
| 896 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:01:28pm |
| 897 |
Aye Pod Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:01:46pm |
re: #881 albusteve
I'm merely responding to your gripe...let people post whatever they want, you don't have to jump down on every post you don't like...don't be so tense bro, let it go
Yes but your gripe is completely invalid. That's the difference.
| 898 |
prairiefire Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:02:03pm |
re: #895 iceweasel
I think he's going to try for the GOP nomination in 2012.
| 899 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:02:03pm |
For the Colorado Lizards...
Models continue to be consistent and in good agreement, almost scary. Latest trend is to bring the cold front and snow in a little bit sooner, now looks to start in the very early morning hours Fri morning, between 4 am and 7 am. Snow increases in intensity by late morning and persists into the evening hours, with snow diminishing late Fri night. Cold and maybe some flurries early Sat morning, but mostly fair by Sat afternoon. I expect the NWS to issue winter advisories on Thu, most likely a winter storm warning for the foothills. Northeast winds could also be quite strong at times on Fri, in the 20-40 mph range causing additional blowing and drifting of snow.
Snow totals still on track for 6-12 inches most foothill locations, perhaps up to 16 inches in favored areas. 4-8 inches in the Urban Corridor and Plains. With the very warm temps this week, early snow will likely melt on roads, but then freeze during the day on Fri with much colder temps and heavy snow. Travel during the day on Fri will be difficult, and perhaps dangerous at times with icy roads, heavy snow and wind, and low visibilities. If you do have to travel on Fri, make sure you have a shovel, warm jacket, gloves and winter survival kit with you.
Temps will start out in the 30's and 40's midnight Thu, and by midnight Fri be in the single digits and teens, so be prepared for much colder weather throughout the day on Fri, with temps dropping during the entire day.
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Digital Display Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:02:28pm |
re: #872 Cannadian Club Akbar
Everyone is drunk and you have to drive us all home. Sorry.
/Can we stop at Taco Bell?
You know what sucks is going through a Taco Bell at 3am with a Taxi Driver that barely knows English...
OK the driver is Mexican.. The help is 16 yr old white High school students and I'm hungry...Nobody understands a damn word anybody is saying..
Life in Indiana..
/
| 901 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:02:30pm |
re: #897 Jimmah
Yes but your gripe is completely invalid. That's the difference.
yes, I see...carry on
| 902 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:02:35pm |
re: #880 iceweasel
Spreading Santorum...
Santorum: Democrats are Worried Obama May Go to Indonesia and Bow to More Muslims
Bowgate lives on!
It's the underlying Muslim suspicion. It has never left, as we can tell by some posts here, and by the stuff I read elsewhere.
| 903 |
Sheila Broflovski Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:03:05pm |
Anybody else watch the season opener of "South Park" about Tiger Woods and Obama's plan for treating the epidemic of sex addiction?
| 904 |
The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:03:12pm |
re: #898 prairiefire
I think he's going to try for the GOP nomination in 2012.
Oh my god, really? Feh.
I can't believe he'd get the nom. Oh please no.
| 905 |
avanti Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:03:24pm |
re: #818 iceweasel
2008 is calling!
That was back when I was known as a "used condom", different blog back than.
| 906 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:03:36pm |
re: #899 Walter L. Newton
Stay warm, & post those pics if you haven't already.
| 907 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:04:04pm |
re: #900 HoosierHoops
You know what sucks is going through a Taco Bell at 3am with a Taxi Driver that barely knows English...
OK the driver is Mexican.. The help is 16 yr old white High school students and I'm hungry...Nobody understands a damn word anybody is saying..
Life in Indiana..
/
Where I'm at we have had multiple DUI's occur in the Taco Bell drive through when a driver passes out. D'oh!!
| 908 |
simoom Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:04:31pm |
re: #880 iceweasel
Spreading Santorum...
Santorum: Democrats are Worried Obama May Go to Indonesia and Bow to More Muslims
Bowgate lives on!
Not only lives on, it's been upgraded with the Muslim part. Either he's trading in simple islamaphobia by saying bowing to Muslims is particularly bad or he's pushing the Obama-is-a-secret-Muslim angle by implying Obama can't help bowing to his fellows.
| 909 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:04:33pm |
re: #903 Alouette
Anybody else watch the season opener of "South Park" about Tiger Woods and Obama's plan for treating the epidemic of sex addiction?
Yeah, and it was a good one. My favorite part was Butters' obsession with "bush."
| 910 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:05:02pm |
re: #905 avanti
That was back when I was known as a "used condom", different blog back than.
for LGF it's douche or douche bag or douche bag nozzle
| 911 |
The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:05:41pm |
re: #905 avanti
That was back when I was known as a "used condom", different blog back than.
All i can say is wow. I had never heard that. You're one of the most laid back people here.
| 912 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:05:53pm |
re: #900 HoosierHoops
You know what sucks is going through a Taco Bell at 3am with a Taxi Driver that barely knows English...
OK the driver is Mexican.. The help is 16 yr old white High school students and I'm hungry...Nobody understands a damn word anybody is saying..
Life in Indiana..
/
But did anyone bow to anyone else? How do you know you weren't given a terrorist taco?
| 913 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:05:59pm |
re: #906 The Sanity Inspector
Stay warm, & post those pics if you haven't already.
If you mean the mountain meadow photos, ok. I was out today and when I got to the bottom of the hill alt the end of my street, I remembered that I forgot to bring the camera. I have the camera at my desk right now, so maybe tomorrow morning I ride down to the meadow and take a pic.
| 914 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:06:23pm |
re: #903 Alouette
Anybody else watch the season opener of "South Park" about Tiger Woods and Obama's plan for treating the epidemic of sex addiction?
No. Was it worth watching?
| 915 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:07:36pm |
'Night, gotta get some work done. I sometimes help out a family friend overseas, who is a translator. English is not her first language, and sometimes colloquial English throws her. So I get to explain unfamiliar idioms to her. "Blah-blah-blah-blah-and then once that's done you're off to the races, and you can then blah-blah-blah..."
"...???...'Off to the races??'..."
| 916 |
prairiefire Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:07:44pm |
Here's a link to Santorum's smug mug:[Link: www.philly.com...]
| 917 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:08:10pm |
re: #913 Walter L. Newton
If you mean the mountain meadow photos, ok. I was out today and when I got to the bottom of the hill alt the end of my street, I remembered that I forgot to bring the camera. I have the camera at my desk right now, so maybe tomorrow morning I ride down to the meadow and take a pic.
I hope it snows all year up there...but I'm selfish and want all that water
| 918 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:08:21pm |
re: #900 HoosierHoops
You know what sucks is going through a Taco Bell at 3am with a Taxi Driver that barely knows English...
OK the driver is Mexican.. The help is 16 yr old white High school students and I'm hungry...Nobody understands a damn word anybody is saying..
Life in Indiana..
/
It probably wouldn't hurt if you knew how to carry on a general conversation in Spanish, even just a broken, tourist Spanish. A lot of us in the west/mid-west learn enough Spanish to get along in those situations.
It helps.
| 919 |
Digital Display Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:08:36pm |
re: #912 negativ
But did anyone bow to anyone else? How do you know you weren't given a terrorist taco?
LOL You laugh and accept what ever they throw you in the back seat of a taxi..
I could live in NYC
*wink*
| 920 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:09:11pm |
re: #914 Dark_Falcon
No. Was it worth watching?
cartoons?...well hell yeah!....where do you think a third of the posts around here originate from?
| 921 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:09:15pm |
re: #917 albusteve
I hope it snows all year up there...but I'm selfish and want all that water
You'll get it. You always do, don't you?
| 922 |
NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:09:46pm |
Obama Evokes His Dying Mother in Health Care Reform Push
In an email message to supporters, President Barack Obama used his dying mother’s experience with insurance companies as an example of why lawmakers should pass the health care reform plan in Congress.
“She died of cancer, and in the last six months of her life, I saw her on the phone in her hospital room arguing with insurance companies instead of focusing on getting well and spending time with her family,” Obama wrote in the email.
| 923 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:09:53pm |
re: #915 The Sanity Inspector
'Night, gotta get some work done. I sometimes help out a family friend overseas, who is a translator. English is not her first language, and sometimes colloquial English throws her. So I get to explain unfamiliar idioms to her. "Blah-blah-blah-blah-and then once that's done you're off to the races, and you can then blah-blah-blah..."
"...???...'Off to the races??'..."
My friend from Peru had the toughest time with the colloquialisms. I loved when I had to explain to her, "the big house".
| 924 |
simoom Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:10:21pm |
re: #892 NJDhockeyfan
Obama Says Louisiana Purchase Will Help With Earthquake In Hawaii
[Video]
Here's the full answer from the transcript:
OBAMA: So that's not — that's not going to be something that is going to be in this final package. I think the same is true on all of these provisions. I'll give you some exceptions though.Something that was called a special deal was for Louisiana. It was said that there were billions — millions of dollars going to Louisiana, this was a special deal. Well, in fact, that provision, which I think should remain in, said that if a state has been affected by a natural catastrophe, that has created a special health care emergency in that state, they should get help. Louisiana, obviously, went through Katrina, and they're still trying to deal with the enormous challenges that were faced because of that.
(CROSSTALK)
OBAMA: That also — I'm giving you an example of one that I consider important. It also affects Hawaii, which went through an earthquake. So that's not just a Louisiana provision. That is a provision that affects every state that is going through a natural catastrophe.
| 925 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:10:21pm |
re: #912 negativ
But did anyone bow to anyone else? How do you know you weren't given a terrorist taco?
tacos are innocent...the is no such thing as an IED taco....apologize!
| 926 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:10:24pm |
re: #919 HoosierHoops
LOL You laugh and accept what ever they throw you in the back seat of a taxi..
I could live in NYC
*wink*
In Florida, all the Taco Bell employees know English. No one at McDonalds does, though.
| 927 |
The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:11:15pm |
re: #902 Stanley Sea
It's the underlying Muslim suspicion. It has never left, as we can tell by some posts here, and by the stuff I read elsewhere.
I'm gathering that from your comments and freetoken's and simoom's. I hadn't realised VDH was pushing that now too.
I guess this version of it is all about the seekrit Muslim, weak on terror/actual terrorist himself meme. They don't have to come out and say that Obama is a seekrit Muslim and jihadi who is determined to destroy America from within-- but they're feeding into the people who do believe that.
I really wonder what sort of book will be written, say in 25 years, about all these various themes that got sounded about the first black POTUS. Pulling together all this, the nirth people, etc.
| 928 |
jaunte Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:11:23pm |
re: #923 Stanley Sea
I work with a guy from Venezuela who says "I paid through the eye," instead of "through the nose" for something. His sounds much more painful.
| 929 |
Aye Pod Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:11:29pm |
re: #903 Alouette
Anybody else watch the season opener of "South Park" about Tiger Woods and Obama's plan for treating the epidemic of sex addiction?
Nope - just waiting for it to appear on torrent - sometime tonight hopefully.
| 930 |
Sheila Broflovski Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:11:33pm |
re: #914 Dark_Falcon
No. Was it worth watching?
It was pretty good, not one of their greatest, but I enjoyed it. Southparkstudios.com will have it online by tomorrow night.
| 931 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:12:41pm |
re: #921 Walter L. Newton
You'll get it. You always do, don't you?
the Rio Grande is wide and deep right now, brown and picking up speed....GO ROCKIES!
| 932 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:12:50pm |
re: #911 iceweasel
All i can say is wow. I had never heard that. You're one of the most laid back people here.
There was quite the unanimity of opinion here, back in the day. I remember one user, forget the name though, who was no different from the average thoughtful liberal posters on board now. S/he tried to discuss things, tried to fight fire with fire, but only succeeded in impersonating a leg of lamb in a piranha pool. IIRC, Charles booted him/her because s/he "isn't adding anything to the conversation." Needless to say, this was a number of years ago...
| 933 |
Soap_Man Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:13:12pm |
Well, I'm out. Gonna go watch this week's LOST, which I missed.
Have a safe and fun evening everyone.
| 934 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:13:52pm |
| 935 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:13:56pm |
re: #931 albusteve
the Rio Grande is wide and deep right now, brown and picking up speed...GO ROCKIES!
Go Rockies... Pleeeeeaaaasssseeee... don't be suing sports cheers around me, I don't give two shits about sports :)
| 936 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:14:08pm |
re: #930 Alouette
I was hoping John Edwards would be one of the sex addict celebrities, but I guess since he only cheated with one women (one we know of at least) he doesn't qualify.
| 937 |
Daniel Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:14:22pm |
It sucks not to be allowed to drink tonight! Well, only because my flu is just receding, had my last fever last night. Or wait... Yo Jimmah How do you spell the name of that drink that is half beer & half what we call 7-up or sprite. The clear lemon/lime carbonated drink. Shanty? Shandy? Anyway maybe I can do that!
| 938 |
avanti Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:14:23pm |
re: #911 iceweasel
All i can say is wow. I had never heard that. You're one of the most laid back people here.
That I am laid back, and because of a few that stood up for me, even though I was a Commie was all that kept me here. Back than, you could get 20 updings for just bashing the liberals on the blog.
| 939 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:14:25pm |
re: #927 iceweasel
I'm gathering that from your comments and freetoken's and simoom's. I hadn't realised VDH was pushing that now too.
I guess this version of it is all about the seekrit Muslim, weak on terror/actual terrorist himself meme. They don't have to come out and say that Obama is a seekrit Muslim and jihadi who is determined to destroy America from within-- but they're feeding into the people who do believe that.
I really wonder what sort of book will be written, say in 25 years, about all these various themes that got sounded about the first black POTUS. Pulling together all this, the nirth people, etc.
It will be embarrassing. Not smart thinking.
| 940 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:14:29pm |
re: #933 Soap_Man
Well, I'm out. Gonna go watch this week's LOST, which I missed.
Have a safe and fun evening everyone.
let me tell you what happens...
| 941 |
Sheila Broflovski Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:14:32pm |
This South Park episode did make me wonder: why do we think domestic violence is something to laugh at when it's the male partner who is battered?
| 942 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:14:37pm |
re: #913 Walter L. Newton
If you mean the mountain meadow photos, ok. I was out today and when I got to the bottom of the hill alt the end of my street, I remembered that I forgot to bring the camera. I have the camera at my desk right now, so maybe tomorrow morning I ride down to the meadow and take a pic.
Upding to take the place of a string around your finger.
| 943 |
prairiefire Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:15:11pm |
My favorite TV show starts its 2nd season in several days:[Link: www.nurse-jackie.org...]
| 944 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:15:17pm |
re: #935 Walter L. Newton
Go Rockies... Pleeeaaassseee... don't be suing sports cheers around me, I don't give two shits about sports :)
yeah?...how do you know who the Nuggets are then?...huh?....you lie like a rug
| 945 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:15:49pm |
re: #937 Rightwingconspirator
Shandy (I'm pretty sure), but only girls drink it. :)
| 946 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:15:54pm |
re: #919 HoosierHoops
LOL You laugh and accept what ever they throw you in the back seat of a taxi..
I could live in NYC
*wink*
If you live in NYC, or visit tex-mex outlets by means of a taxi, then by definition you don't know wtf a taco is.
| 947 |
avanti Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:15:57pm |
| 949 |
Aye Pod Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:16:50pm |
re: #937 Rightwingconspirator
It sucks not to be allowed to drink tonight! Well, only because my flu is just receding, had my last fever last night. Or wait... Yo Jimmah How do you spell the name of that drink that is half beer & half what we call 7-up or sprite. The clear lemon/lime carbonated drink. Shanty? Shandy? Anyway maybe I can do that!
Shandy! First booze I was allowed to drink.
| 950 |
Sheila Broflovski Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:16:50pm |
re: #936 Mad Al-Jaffee
I was hoping John Edwards would be one of the sex addict celebrities, but I guess since he only cheated with one women (one we know of at least) he doesn't qualify.
The sex addicts included: David Letterman, Bill Clinton, Mike Douglas, Paul McCartney, Bret Roethlisberger (or however you spell it). Edwards and maybe Mark Sanford might have been sitting in the second row or something. South Park always has little extras that you don't see at the first viewing.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:16:52pm |
re: #937 Rightwingconspirator
It sucks not to be allowed to drink tonight! Well, only because my flu is just receding, had my last fever last night. Or wait... Yo Jimmah How do you spell the name of that drink that is half beer & half what we call 7-up or sprite. The clear lemon/lime carbonated drink. Shanty? Shandy? Anyway maybe I can do that!
Just drink some whiskey and kill whatever germs that are attacking. Geez.
| 952 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:16:53pm |
re: #942 The Sanity Inspector
Upding to take the place of a string around your finger.
I'll do tomorrow, and FTP them to my server. Links tomorrow.
| 953 |
The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:16:57pm |
re: #932 The Sanity Inspector
There was quite the unanimity of opinion here, back in the day. I remember one user, forget the name though, who was no different from the average thoughtful liberal posters on board now. S/he tried to discuss things, tried to fight fire with fire, but only succeeded in impersonating a leg of lamb in a piranha pool. IIRC, Charles booted him/her because s/he "isn't adding anything to the conversation." Needless to say, this was a number of years ago...
Yikes.
I did know that about the unanimity, of course. It was still very much that way when I first joined.
I'm more shocked that avanti was called that name than anything else. I'm gathering there was a constant usage of it about him.
This is why I don't go back and read old comment threads. I kind of don't want to see it.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:17:24pm |
re: #934 albusteve
I doubt it...he has a propensity to make stuff up
And I picked NM to go far in the NCAA brackets?
Steve, that was a low blow, if you knew anything about Obama's Mother's death from cancer. (repeated often during the election..)
| 955 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:18:06pm |
re: #946 negativ
If you live in NYC, or visit tex-mex outlets by means of a taxi, then by definition you don't know wtf a taco is.
hahaha!....good one....a NYer wouldn't know a taco from a salami sandwich
| 956 |
NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:18:15pm |
re: #947 avanti
He did that back in the campaign, not a new thing.
It was in bad taste then and still is today.
| 957 |
avanti Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:18:51pm |
re: #932 The Sanity Inspector
There was quite the unanimity of opinion here, back in the day. I remember one user, forget the name though, who was no different from the average thoughtful liberal posters on board now. S/he tried to discuss things, tried to fight fire with fire, but only succeeded in impersonating a leg of lamb in a piranha pool. IIRC, Charles booted him/her because s/he "isn't adding anything to the conversation." Needless to say, this was a number of years ago...
Yea, I recall the early attempts to defend AGW, that was a rough patch.
| 958 |
NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:19:59pm |
Obama's New Partner: Al Sharpton
WASHINGTON—With his wavy bouffant and medallion necklaces, the Rev. Al Sharpton famously confronted government officials on behalf of black Americans. Now he has found a new role: telling black leaders to quiet their criticisms and give the government a chance.
President Barack Obama has turned to Mr. Sharpton in recent weeks to answer increasingly public criticism in the black community over his economic policy. Some black leaders are charging that the nation's first African-American president has failed to help black communities hit hard by the downturn, leaving party strategists worried that black Democrats will become dispirited and skip November's congressional elections.
Mr. Sharpton has emerged as an important part of the White House response. On his national radio program, he is directly rebutting the president's critics, arguing that Mr. Obama is right to craft policies aimed at lifting all Americans rather than specifically targeting blacks. One recent on-air fight with Tavis Smiley, a prominent talk show host and Obama critic, grew so heated that it has created a small sensation among black leaders.
Partnering with a racist. Isn't that special?
| 959 |
Daniel Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:20:26pm |
re: #945 Mad Al-Jaffee
Oh great. Yesterday after hearing of my loss of weight and appetite D_L got me Ensure! Now I'm drinking a girls drink? OMG next thing will be a cocktail from a blender that takes an umbrella!!! What to do... What to do.
Is there a Nascar race this weekend? Hmmm. Never mind the "Canon" this weekend I'm taking out the race gun in .45 cal.
| 960 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:20:34pm |
re: #950 Alouette
I thought the celebrities (and the Obama/military/alien) plot was kind of weak. I love when they make fun of celebrities, but they sometimes rely on that too much.
I watched the premiere of Justified tonight. Very promising show, especially since it's based on an Elmore Leonard character.
| 961 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:21:06pm |
re: #956 NJDhockeyfan
It was in bad taste then and still is today.
It is reality. Bummer that real life affected him, but he has the right to talk about his personal experiences.
| 962 |
Daniel Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:21:09pm |
re: #951 Cannadian Club Akbar
For a cold sure but that whiskey would just not stay in place this time.
| 963 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:21:11pm |
re: #954 Stanley Sea
And I picked NM to go far in the NCAA brackets?
Steve, that was a low blow, if you knew anything about Obama's Mother's death from cancer. (repeated often during the election..)
what's the tourney have to do with BO?...is that a low blow?....and 'low blow' is subjective
| 964 |
avanti Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:21:57pm |
re: #948 Rightwingconspirator
How long ago was that?
I think my Karma started moving from minus 2000 about the time TFK was booted, maybe a year or two.
| 965 |
Aye Pod Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:22:00pm |
re: #956 NJDhockeyfan
It was in bad taste then and still is today.
How is it bad taste to offer one's own anecdotal experience? People on both sides of the health care debate do that all the time. Jeez.
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SteveC Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:23:14pm |
re: #907 Cannadian Club Akbar
Where I'm at we have had multiple DUI's occur in the Taco Bell drive through when a driver passes out. D'oh!!
Saw on the news that a fellow GOT SHOT at a KFC drive through last week - and yes, it was meant for him. Tough Neighborhood!
| 967 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:23:15pm |
re: #932 The Sanity Inspector
There was quite the unanimity of opinion here, back in the day. I remember one user, forget the name though, who was no different from the average thoughtful liberal posters on board now. S/he tried to discuss things, tried to fight fire with fire, but only succeeded in impersonating a leg of lamb in a piranha pool. IIRC, Charles booted him/her because s/he "isn't adding anything to the conversation." Needless to say, this was a number of years ago...
View from Ireland?
| 968 |
windsagio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:23:19pm |
re: #965 Jimmah
You're not allowed to talk about the sick and dying in an identifiable way.
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avanti Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:23:20pm |
re: #947 avanti
He did that back in the campaign, not a new thing.
I don't agree, to me, it showed a personal reason to push for reform.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:23:20pm |
re: #962 Rightwingconspirator
Honest here. There is stuff called "Elite Water" or something like that. Full of electrolytes. Sounds like that's what you need. You just add it to a glass of water. About $1.50/pack at GNC.
| 971 |
prairiefire Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:23:23pm |
re: #960 Mad Al-Jaffee
Good, I read that "Justified" was a good show. I think my hubby would like it.
| 972 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:23:23pm |
re: #956 NJDhockeyfan
It was in bad taste then and still is today.
agreed....he's using some personal demise for political capital....how low can he go?...he's nothing but a panderer, and not that good at it
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:23:35pm |
re: #964 avanti
I think my Karma started moving from minus 2000 about the time TFK was booted, maybe a year or two.
-2000? You? Oh the changes that have occurred.
| 974 |
NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:23:56pm |
N. Korean official executed for currency reform failure: Yonhap+
SEOUL, March 18 (AP) - (Kyodo)—North Korean authorities have executed a senior ruling party official in charge of financial planning after holding him responsible for failure of last year's currency reform, South Korea's Yonhap News agency reported Thursday.
Pak Nam Gi, who was director of the Financial Planning Department of the Workers' Party of Korea, was shot dead in Pyongyang last week, Yonhap said, citing multiple sources.
Pak was held responsible for the worsening public sentiment caused by failure of the currency reform and ensuing bad effect on process of transferring power from top leader Kim Jong Il to his son Kim Jong Un, the sources said.
Bet the next guy isn't going to be pleased with his new job.
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The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:24:57pm |
re: #964 avanti
I think my Karma started moving from minus 2000 about the time TFK was booted, maybe a year or two.
More recently. You were still deep in negative karma when I joined, which is only 10 months ago. That was also when a post bashing a lib could still get 20 updings.
I reckon there's been several changes here over the years as all communities evolve, like with the creationists getting the boot, but there definitely was a lot of rapid change in terms of the commenters over the summer.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:24:57pm |
re: #963 albusteve
what's the tourney have to do with BO?...is that a low blow?...and 'low blow' is subjective
It's my yin and yang with albusteve. Sometimes I love ya, sometimes I just erk at your statements.
| 977 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:25:05pm |
OK, enough argumentative bullshit. Let us now inflict spiffy Youtube videos upon each other.
First - "Steppin' Out" by Joe Jackson
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:25:20pm |
re: #649 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Sorry guys. I have to go back out.
Sitting in a hotel room on St. Paddy's Day just ain't doin' it for me.
Had a green beer.
heh.
| 979 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:25:22pm |
re: #958 NJDhockeyfan
Obama's New Partner: Al Sharpton
Partnering with a racist. Isn't that special?
Just par for the course.
| 980 |
Daniel Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:25:27pm |
re: #970 Cannadian Club Akbar
I will get some in the am. Thanks. Tea, and plain water are getting old.
| 981 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:25:52pm |
re: #977 negativ
OK, enough argumentative bullshit. Let us now inflict spiffy Youtube videos upon each other.
First - "Steppin' Out" by Joe Jackson
[Video]
Great song.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:26:44pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:26:55pm |
re: #965 Jimmah
How is it bad taste to offer one's own anecdotal experience? People on both sides of the health care debate do that all the time. Jeez.
He's using his dead grandmother to further his political agenda. You don't see a problem with that? I bet if GWB tried that he would have gotten buried on the front pages.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:27:02pm |
re: #980 Rightwingconspirator
I will get some in the am. Thanks. Tea, and plain water are getting old.
No flavor, but like I said, adds electrolytes. Buy some Kool-Aide. (no pun intended)
| 985 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:27:08pm |
re: #965 Jimmah
How is it bad taste to offer one's own anecdotal experience? People on both sides of the health care debate do that all the time. Jeez.
obviously there are two opposing modes of thinking...I find it tacky and grovelling...the issue is voter acceptance and he's using the situation for his political benefit...if it's not going to be a private gig then fuck him....he's gonna take a hit from people like me....you want to use that type of stuff to persuade voters, go for it
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windsagio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:27:09pm |
re: #976 Stanley Sea
It's my yin and yang with albusteve. Sometimes I love ya, sometimes I just erk at your statements.
sometimes he fails and sometimes he succeeds :p (in the same order as above >>)
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reine.de.tout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:27:22pm |
re: #948 Rightwingconspirator
How long ago was that?
Probably as recently as a year ago just about now, maybe even as recent as 8 or 9 months ago.
It was very impressive, the way Avanti kept his cool. Very impressive, indeed.
| 988 |
windsagio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:28:24pm |
re: #985 albusteve
Face it man, you find it tacky and groveling because Obama did it :P
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:28:45pm |
re: #975 iceweasel
More recently. You were still deep in negative karma when I joined, which is only 10 months ago. That was also when a post bashing a lib could still get 20 updings.
I reckon there's been several changes here over the years as all communities evolve, like with the creationists getting the boot, but there definitely was a lot of rapid change in terms of the commenters over the summer.
The major catalyst seems to have been the banning of Iron Fist. That was the point at which a lot of others decided that they were going to leave, since Charles had decided to chart a different course than they. For many such people, their course led them over the falls.
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simoom Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:29:14pm |
re: #934 albusteve
re: #922 NJDhockeyfan
I doubt it...he has a propensity to make stuff up
His mother died of ovarian cancer 16 years ago. From a 2007 speech he gave in Santa Barbra:
I remember my mother. She was 52 years old when she died of ovarian cancer, and you know what she was thinking about in the last months of her life? She wasn’t thinking about getting well. She wasn't thinking about coming to terms with her own mortality. She had been diagnosed just as she was transitioning between jobs. And she wasn’t sure whether insurance was going to cover the medical expenses because they might consider this a preexisting condition. I remember just being heartbroken, seeing her struggle through the paperwork and the medical bills and the insurance forms. So, I have seen what it's like when somebody you love is suffering because of a broken health care system. And it's wrong. It's not who we are as a people.
Is there something wrong with policy advocacy from personal experience? I can think of many, many instances of Americans campaigning for legislation after the death of a loved one.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:29:15pm |
re: #983 NJDhockeyfan
He's using his dead grandmother to further his political agenda. You don't see a problem with that? I bet if GWB tried that he would have gotten buried on the front pages.
It was his Mother. She died very quickly from cancer, after a major struggle with insurance companies paying for her treatment.
You brought it up, but GWB's family never had to deal with that shit.
| 993 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:29:26pm |
re: #986 windsagio
sometimes he fails and sometimes he succeeds :p (in the same order as above >>)
Don't start with the fucking group hug now...
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:29:56pm |
re: #984 Cannadian Club Akbar
No flavor, but like I said, adds electrolytes. Buy some Kool-Aide. (no pun intended)
It's what plants crave.
| 996 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:30:28pm |
Time for a jalapeno smoke sausage and a beer. See ya'll in the AM.:)
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Daniel Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:30:32pm |
re: #987 reine.de.tout
Wow. I registered long before I really dug into the comments. I was a story and links lurker. I finally jumped in last October or so. Wow. It's sheer chance I had not gotten well into the comments back then.
| 998 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:30:51pm |
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avanti Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:31:03pm |
re: #975 iceweasel
More recently. You were still deep in negative karma when I joined, which is only 10 months ago. That was also when a post bashing a lib could still get 20 updings.
I reckon there's been several changes here over the years as all communities evolve, like with the creationists getting the boot, but there definitely was a lot of rapid change in terms of the commenters over the summer.
I hope we never see those days again, from either side. I joined hoping to have a conversation across the entire political spectrum, and we finally got it. My only sadness is that we could not have kept more from the far right, but they became too uncomfortable without a echo chamber.
| 1001 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:31:09pm |
| 1003 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:31:35pm |
re: #977 negativ
Joe Jackson always looked like Benny from LA Law... or Durant, from "Darkman" to me.
Love his music, tho.
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prairiefire Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:31:47pm |
Another one down, reportedly:[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:31:52pm |
re: #993 Walter L. Newton
Don't start with the fucking group hug now...
I knew it would be Windy & I who updinged you on that one! smooch!
| 1006 |
Daniel Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:32:10pm |
re: #1001 Walter L. Newton
Heh. "Hug it out'.
Entourage ref.
| 1007 |
Aye Pod Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:32:18pm |
re: #983 NJDhockeyfan
He's using his dead grandmother to further his political agenda. You don't see a problem with that? I bet if GWB tried that he would have gotten buried on the front pages.
If he were simply trying to boost the Democratic party, that would be different. The health care issue is about improving people's lives; this issue very much concerns how people live and die. I don't see any problem with him bringing up his own experience, even if it involves the death of someone close to him.
| 1008 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:32:27pm |
re: #999 avanti
I hope we never see those days again, from either side. I joined hoping to have a conversation across the entire political spectrum, and we finally got it. My only sadness is that we could not have kept more from the far right, but they became too uncomfortable without a echo chamber.
I'm still fucking here. You miss my snide comment to you? You want I should make you feel all misty eyed for the good old days :)
| 1009 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:32:43pm |
re: #988 windsagio
Face it man, you find it tacky and groveling because Obama did it :P
I explained it...what's your point...cheesy friction?....face it man
| 1010 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:33:19pm |
re: #992 Stanley Sea
It was his Mother. She died very quickly from cancer, after a major struggle with insurance companies paying for her treatment.
You brought it up, but GWB's family never had to deal with that shit.
She had ovarian cancer, what my mom had.
3 weeks from date of diagnosis until death.
That one has symptoms that mimic other things, and is usually diagnosed at an advanced stage.
The insurance - she was between jobs - and there probably was no COBRA then, so it may well have been considered a PEC and not covered under her new insurance. Awful.
| 1011 |
windsagio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:33:30pm |
re: #1009 albusteve
+ for 'cheesy friction' even tho' I don't understand.
| 1012 |
The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:33:53pm |
re: #990 Dark_Falcon
The major catalyst seems to have been the banning of Iron Fist. That was the point at which a lot of others decided that they were going to leave, since Charles had decided to chart a different course than they. For many such people, their course led them over the falls.
I think that might be right. It was a whole process though; some of it very old, like breaking with the people like Geller over VB, Spencer, then the creationists, just lots of stuff. It's an evolutionary process.
There's a gigantic difference between now and when I joined in terms of the sorts of comments that wind up in the top and bottom ten. They're almost mirror images of how they used to be.
| 1013 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:34:07pm |
re: #1005 Stanley Sea
I knew it would be Windy & I who updinged you on that one! smooch!
Stop it damn it all.. stop it.
| 1014 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:34:09pm |
re: #911 iceweasel
All i can say is wow. I had never heard that. You're one of the most laid back people here.
He was considered to be a vicious and terrifying communist back in the day. People downdinged him when he sneezed.
| 1015 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:34:19pm |
The Box Tops, featuring the late Alex Chilton:
| 1016 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:34:33pm |
re: #1008 Walter L. Newton
I'm still fucking here. You miss my snide comment to you? You want I should make you feel all misty eyed for the good old days :)
I'm still here too.
But I don't recall personally being snide to Avanti.
But if he misses it, well . . . I could round up something.
| 1017 |
Altermite Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:34:40pm |
re: #1008 Walter L. Newton
I'm still fucking here. You miss my snide comment to you? You want I should make you feel all misty eyed for the good old days :)
hehe, I was about to say that it was walter that I remember slapping avanti around as much as anyone.
of course, he usually did it when avanti was squirming around trying not to offend people.
| 1018 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:34:59pm |
re: #999 avanti
I hope we never see those days again, from either side. I joined hoping to have a conversation across the entire political spectrum, and we finally got it. My only sadness is that we could not have kept more from the far right, but they became too uncomfortable without a echo chamber.
wrong...you are out in the dark with that issue...but think what you want...did you just not notice the trolls that hit the blog?...criticizing posters and not posts?....probably not
| 1019 |
windsagio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:35:12pm |
re: #1012 iceweasel
My theory is it has to do directly with distance in time from 9/11.
As the people who were shocked by the terrorism (such as our host) the general haters went along, the fractures were bound to appear... And the site owner wins >
| 1020 |
windsagio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:35:55pm |
re: #1018 albusteve
Oh, steve you always make me smile :)
| 1021 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:36:31pm |
re: #999 avanti
I hope we never see those days again, from either side. I joined hoping to have a conversation across the entire political spectrum, and we finally got it. My only sadness is that we could not have kept more from the far right, but they became too uncomfortable without a echo chamber.
Many of them were so very uncomfortable without their echo chamber, that they could not stand those of us who had a different view as to the newer and more liberal posters.
good riddance.
| 1022 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:37:39pm |
re: #1003 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My favorite Joe Jackson song:
"Real Men" is way up near the top of my Totally Cool Songs List, too. Yet somehow I still don't consider Joe Jackson among my favorites. Hmm.
| 1023 |
avanti Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:38:06pm |
re: #987 reine.de.tout
Probably as recently as a year ago just about now, maybe even as recent as 8 or 9 months ago.
It was very impressive, the way Avanti kept his cool. Very impressive, indeed.
Would it surprise you that I'm a salesman ? Dealing with the public is what I do. When I was a auto parts rep, I loved the grouchy old timers that would refuse to buy from me until I wore them down. Once you convert a tough sale, you've made a customer for life. :)
Besides, I believe in the natural goodness of folks, sometimes you have to dig a bit deeper to find it, but it's there.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:38:20pm |
re: #1004 prairiefire
Another one down, reportedly:[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
Another Islamist meets the Reaper.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:38:27pm |
re: #983 NJDhockeyfan
He's using his dead grandmother to further his political agenda. You don't see a problem with that? I bet if GWB tried that he would have gotten buried on the front pages.
I bet if Sarah Palin tried that, she'd be canonized by her crazed followers.
| 1026 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:39:15pm |
| 1027 |
NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:39:28pm |
re: #1015 Mad Al-Jaffee
The Box Tops, featuring the late Alex Chilton:
[Video]
The drummer of the Box Tops was at my apartment in the late 80s partying one night with a few friends of mine.
| 1028 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:39:38pm |
re: #992 Stanley Sea
It was his Mother. She died very quickly from cancer, after a major struggle with insurance companies paying for her treatment.
You brought it up, but GWB's family never had to deal with that shit.
Which ain't their fault. Nothing wrong with having financial security.
But pretending that everyone does will get us absolutely nowhere.
| 1029 |
Daniel Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:39:58pm |
re: #1021 reine.de.tout
They can be found, and red hot language blogs can be found a dime a dozen. Smart, cogent and mostly calm? Not So Much!
| 1030 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:40:15pm |
re: #1015 Mad Al-Jaffee
The Box Tops, featuring the late Alex Chilton:
[Video]
59, way too young. Thanks for posting the vid.
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albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:40:29pm |
re: #1025 SanFranciscoZionist
I bet if Sarah Palin tried that, she'd be canonized by her crazed followers.
St. Sarah!....seer of far off shores!
| 1032 |
NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:40:32pm |
How about some Bobby Bland?
| 1033 |
windsagio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:40:47pm |
re: #1028 SanFranciscoZionist
The only problem with it really is that being safe in that regard makes it all too easy to disregard others' needs.
| 1034 |
avanti Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:41:22pm |
re: #993 Walter L. Newton
Don't start with the fucking group hug now...
Walter, you are not the hard ass you try to be. I'm convinced you have a big ass heart. Sorry if I embarrassed you. I don't think we're ready for that man hug quite yet though.:)
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reine.de.tout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:41:31pm |
re: #1029 Rightwingconspirator
They can be found, and red hot language blogs can be found a dime a dozen. Smart, cogent and mostly calm? Not So Much!
eggs-zackly
| 1036 |
goddamnedfrank Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:41:40pm |
Since Bush got to mock Karla Faye Tucker then I think Obama should be allowed to talk about his mom without people second guessing his sincerity:
In his autobiography, Bush claimed that the pending execution of Karla Faye Tucker "felt like a huge piece of concrete...crushing me." But in an unguarded moment in 1999 while traveling during the presidential campaign, Bush revealed his true feelings to the journalist Tucker Carlson. Bush mentioned Karla Faye Tucker, who had been executed the previous year, and told Carlson that in the weeks immediately before the execution, Bianca Jagger and other protesters had come to Austin to plead for clemency for her. Carlson asked Bush if he had met with any of the petitioners and was surprised when Bush whipped around, stared at him, and snapped, "No, I didn't meet with any of them." Carlson, who until that moment had admired Bush, said that Bush's curt response made him feel as if he had just asked "the dumbest, most offensive question ever posed." Bush went on to tell him that he had also refused to meet Larry King when he came to Texas to interview Tucker but had watched the interview on television. King, Bush said, asked Tucker difficult questions, such as "What would you say to Governor Bush?"
What did Tucker answer? Carlson asked.
"Please," Bush whimpered, his lips pursed in mock desperation, "please, don't kill me."
Carlson was shocked.[4] He couldn't believe Bush's callousness and reasoned that his cruel mimicry of the woman whose death he had authorized must have been sparked by anger over Karla Faye Tucker's remarks during the King interviews. When King had asked her what she planned to ask Governor Bush, Karla Faye had said she thought that if Bush approved her execution, he would be succumbing to election-year pressure from pro–death penalty voters.
| 1037 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:42:00pm |
re: #1031 albusteve
St. Sarah!...seer of far off shores!
She can see Russia across the Bering Straits!
| 1038 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:42:02pm |
| 1039 |
The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:43:39pm |
re: #1012 iceweasel
There's a gigantic difference between now and when I joined in terms of the sorts of comments that wind up in the top and bottom ten. They're almost mirror images of how they used to be.
BTW, by this I don't mean liberal vs conservative, but it used to be the case that comments consisting of nothing but abuse, or something like FUCK YOU OBAMA would regularly land in the top ten, and a well written and thoughtful post could land in the toilet if it was perceived as liberal. I think Cato wound up in it just for announcing he'd vote for Obama.
Now we wind up with wellwritten stuff expressing all sorts of opinions in the top ten, and that's pretty cool. It's nice to see that. Especially coming from all over the spectrum.
| 1040 |
avanti Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:43:59pm |
re: #1008 Walter L. Newton
I'm still fucking here. You miss my snide comment to you? You want I should make you feel all misty eyed for the good old days :)
PISS UP A ROPE. THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING POINT. :)
| 1041 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:44:20pm |
I do not believe in three years I've been here Bobby Bland has ever been posted...tre cool...I've missed that one myself
| 1042 |
NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:44:40pm |
| 1043 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:45:40pm |
re: #1033 windsagio
The only problem with it really is that being safe in that regard makes it all too easy to disregard others' needs.
Really... 6 years ago i was making enough money to shit the stuff down the toilet if I wanted to. I was always giving it away, helping out people who needed it, never ever asked for a cent back.
Even when I didn't have it, like now, I still find ways to help people, even if I can only help facilitate and bring things together in a way that works out to help someone.
My door is always open.
I do this automatically, it's not something I think about, something I plan to try to do, it's just my nature, and it has nothing to do with time or place, money or no money.
It's just me.
And I am a fucking wingnut. So, that blows your theory out of the damn water...
| 1044 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:46:06pm |
re: #1023 avanti
Would it surprise you that I'm a salesman ? Dealing with the public is what I do. When I was a auto parts rep, I loved the grouchy old timers that would refuse to buy from me until I wore them down. Once you convert a tough sale, you've made a customer for life.
| 1045 |
windsagio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:47:10pm |
re: #1043 Walter L. Newton
Not at all. I didn't say anything about left or right, and I didn't say EVERYONE who was wealthy thinks/acts that way.
Its just human nature to take everything from your own POV. Thats where the concept of "Privilidge" (sp) comes from.
| 1046 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:47:25pm |
| 1047 |
windsagio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:47:28pm |
re: #1043 Walter L. Newton
we can fight if you want tho :D
| 1048 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:47:36pm |
re: #1043 Walter L. Newton
Really... 6 years ago i was making enough money to shit the stuff down the toilet if I wanted to. I was always giving it away, helping out people who needed it, never ever asked for a cent back.
Even when I didn't have it, like now, I still find ways to help people, even if I can only help facilitate and bring things together in a way that works out to help someone.
My door is always open.
I do this automatically, it's not something I think about, something I plan to try to do, it's just my nature, and it has nothing to do with time or place, money or no money.
It's just me.
And I am a fucking wingnut. So, that blows your theory out of the damn water...
Walter, your decency and generosity are an example to us all.
| 1049 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:48:11pm |
| 1050 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:48:12pm |
re: #1042 NJDhockeyfan
Joe Cocker...love his jacket in this one.
[Video]
he was an original, back in the day...we all dug Joe
| 1051 |
avanti Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:49:39pm |
re: #1043 Walter L. Newton
Really... 6 years ago i was making enough money to shit the stuff down the toilet if I wanted to. I was always giving it away, helping out people who needed it, never ever asked for a cent back.
Even when I didn't have it, like now, I still find ways to help people, even if I can only help facilitate and bring things together in a way that works out to help someone.
My door is always open.
I do this automatically, it's not something I think about, something I plan to try to do, it's just my nature, and it has nothing to do with time or place, money or no money.
It's just me.
And I am a fucking wingnut. So, that blows your theory out of the damn water...
New subject, I want a meteorite for a friend, and I don't want it free. I just don't know what to buy, but I want a $25-$50 thing from space.
| 1052 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:50:09pm |
Time for bed. I hope all of you green beer drinkers aren't hurting too bad tomorrow.
| 1053 |
NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:50:25pm |
re: #1041 albusteve
I do not believe in three years I've been here Bobby Bland has ever been posted...tre cool...I've missed that one myself
I love the Bobby Blue Bland Band! This probably my favorite song he does. Nobody sings it better.
| 1054 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:50:34pm |
re: #1049 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Never heard of him.
Embarrassed.
Great.
you're locked away in a hotel...Bobby Bland is was major force in the R/B scene....while you were groovin to Barry Manilow
| 1055 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:50:48pm |
re: #1043 Walter L. Newton
I do not consider you a "wingnut".
| 1056 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:51:06pm |
Bush went on to tell him that he had also refused to meet Larry King when he came to Texas to interview Tucker but had watched the interview on television. King, Bush said, asked Tucker difficult questions, such as "What would you say to Governor Bush?"What did Tucker answer? Carlson asked.
"Please," Bush whimpered, his lips pursed in mock desperation, "please, don't kill me."
[Link: xkcd.com...]
Sounds like grotesque bullshit to me. But hey, show me wrong.
| 1057 |
windsagio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:51:14pm |
| 1058 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:51:22pm |
re: #1052 Mad Al-Jaffee
Actually, the bar didn't have green beer.
Asked the bartender to put a few drops of Midori in with it.
Turned it green.
Tasted like shit.
| 1059 |
windsagio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:52:17pm |
re: #1058 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That's wow. What an amazingly bad flavor combination >>
| 1060 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:52:18pm |
re: #1058 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Actually, the bar didn't have green beer.
Asked the bartender to put a few drops of Midori in with it.
Turned it green.
Tasted like shit.
get over it and drink for effect...green, purple...who cares?
| 1061 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:52:34pm |
re: #1048 Dark_Falcon
Walter, your decency and generosity are an example to us all.
And to the medical journals.
| 1062 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:53:56pm |
re: #1045 windsagio
re: #1048 Dark_Falcon
re: #1047 windsagio
Everyone misses my point. I'm not trying to be decent or generous, I'm just do what's I feel is right. Calling it this or calling it that, putting a label on it, metering and measuring it, that's what people do when they pledge "X" amount of dollars to their church or synagogue, that's what people do when they go down their list of charities every year just before tax time.
There are people on the right and left who just DO. It's second nature, it just happens, it's apolitical, it's non-partisan, it's not even pro-human, it's just "what you do."
It's tzedakah, it's like breathing, with no assurance or care if that will be your last breath or not, you do without concern for a return in value.
That's real.
| 1063 |
Daniel Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:54:35pm |
re: #1058 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I am glad my beer is unmolested the rest of the year. I hate colorized movies too.
But how the hell do you get Stout to turn green?
//
| 1064 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:55:46pm |
re: #1063 Rightwingconspirator
I am glad my beer is unmolested the rest of the year. I hate colorized movies too.
But how the hell do you get Stout to turn green?
//
hate colorized movies?...you hate Fantasia?...supreme dorkness there
| 1065 |
windsagio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:56:15pm |
re: #1062 Walter L. Newton
And you're missing my point as well.
The problem is that you injected partisanship where none belonged. Any left/right dichotomy you injected yourself.
And like it or not, it's also really hard for people to empathize with things they're not suffering. And them giving doesn't mean they necessarily empathize.
| 1066 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:56:26pm |
do all the night threads just die like this?
| 1067 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:57:32pm |
re: #1051 avanti
New subject, I want a meteorite for a friend, and I don't want it free. I just don't know what to buy, but I want a $25-$50 thing from space.
This will be the first time I will not just offer you one for free, since I have begun selling off some of my better pieces to get over this jobless hump.
If you want to email me (click on my name, you'll see the email address), I can email you some photos of some really nice pieces I currently have for sale, with varying prices.
Yea, I know, shameless self survival here, but I can use a sale, if the truth be told.
And as so many Lizards know here, your email address and anything communicated off blog is safe with me. I have had many personal contacts with Lizards over the years and never broken trust.
So, if you are interested, email me.
Thanks.
| 1068 |
Spare O'Lake Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:57:39pm |
Good evening LGF.
Is everybody greened out yet?
| 1069 |
Daniel Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:57:42pm |
re: #1064 albusteve
Isn't fantasia animated? I refer to B&W film flipped to color. But the dork thing probably applies anyway.
| 1070 |
simoom Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:58:32pm |
re: #983 NJDhockeyfan
He's using his dead grandmother to further his political agenda. You don't see a problem with that? I bet if GWB tried that he would have gotten buried on the front pages.
His mother died 16 years ago and he's shared those experiences frequently.
Do you generally take issue with people advocating for legislation that touches on their loss of a loved one? As an example, Robert and Deborah Modafferi sharing the experience of the disappearance of their 18 year old daughter while lobbying for "Kristen's Law" which established the National Center for Missing Adults.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
| 1071 |
The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:58:49pm |
re: #1043 Walter L. Newton
And I am a fucking wingnut. So, that blows your theory out of the damn water...
Downding for calling yourself a wingnut!
(i'll take it back, just teasing. But you aren't a wingnut)
| 1072 |
Daniel Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:59:26pm |
re: #1067 Walter L. Newton
Walter, do you have any expertise on them? I have one I'm curious about.
| 1073 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 8:59:54pm |
re: #1065 windsagio
And you're missing my point as well.
The problem is that you injected partisanship where none belonged. Any left/right dichotomy you injected yourself.
And like it or not, it's also really hard for people to empathize with things they're not suffering. And them giving doesn't mean they necessarily empathize.
Some people maybe...
| 1074 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:00:19pm |
re: #1072 Rightwingconspirator
Walter, do you have any expertise on them? I have one I'm curious about.
Yep.
| 1075 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:00:52pm |
re: #1068 Spare O'Lake
Good evening LGF.
Is everybody greened out yet?
Yep. I wore my green sweatshirt when I went to the post office to ship stuff out today.
| 1076 |
Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:00:59pm |
re: #1071 iceweasel
Downding for calling yourself a wingnut!
(i'll take it back, just teasing. But you aren't a wingnut)
That's funny, I was almost going to do the same thing. I don't see Walter as a wingnut.
| 1077 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:01:00pm |
re: #1054 albusteve
Obviously. Did you see Joe Cocker's version of "Come Together" in the movie "Across the Universe"... (which I thought sucked, but loved the Cocker bit)
Music starts 50 seconds in....
Ignore the dancing and shit. Listen to Cocker.
| 1078 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:01:12pm |
re: #1071 iceweasel
Downding for calling yourself a wingnut!
(i'll take it back, just teasing. But you aren't a wingnut)
But I play one on the interwebs.
| 1079 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:01:28pm |
re: #1069 Rightwingconspirator
Isn't fantasia animated? I refer to B&W film flipped to color. But the dork thing probably applies anyway.
I was reading an interview just today with Lee Marvin about the differences between filming in BW as opposed to color...they are almost infinitely separable
| 1080 |
windsagio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:01:38pm |
| 1081 |
NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:02:52pm |
re: #1066 albusteve
do all the night threads just die like this?
Let's liven it up with Roy Buchanan & Albert Collins...
| 1082 |
Daniel Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:03:02pm |
re: #1074 Walter L. Newton
Mine is said to be from a strike on Sahkalin. Nickel Iron, and very well aero eroded. 2.5 inch tall. How rare is one like that? I may be mounting it as a designer pendant, with the meteorite mounted like you would a fine coin.
| 1083 |
The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:03:23pm |
re: #1078 Walter L. Newton
But I play one on the interwebs.
Nah. But upding anyway. You play lots of things. You're an actor and playwright, it's what you do.
| 1084 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:03:40pm |
re: #1080 windsagio
*sigh*
Hard isn't impossible man. This whole conversation is so strange.
I know, I still manage the hard part quite well.
| 1085 |
The Shadow Do Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:04:30pm |
re: #1068 Spare O'Lake
Good evening LGF.
Is everybody greened out yet?
The Chicago Bulls showed up in Dallas tonight to play in...bright green unis!
They lost, as they should have. Just wrong.
| 1086 |
avanti Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:04:32pm |
re: #1067 Walter L. Newton
This will be the first time I will not just offer you one for free, since I have begun selling off some of my better pieces to get over this jobless hump.
If you want to email me (click on my name, you'll see the email address), I can email you some photos of some really nice pieces I currently have for sale, with varying prices.
Yea, I know, shameless self survival here, but I can use a sale, if the truth be told.
And as so many Lizards know here, your email address and anything communicated off blog is safe with me. I have had many personal contacts with Lizards over the years and never broken trust.
So, if you are interested, email me.
Thanks.
E-Mail sent, and thanks.
| 1087 |
windsagio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:04:51pm |
re: #1084 Walter L. Newton
and good for you :p
To be honest, I don't even know what you're disputing. Did you really take my post as an attack on the right, or as something different?
| 1088 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:04:54pm |
re: #1077 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Obviously. Did you see Joe Cocker's version of "Come Together" in the movie "Across the Universe"... (which I thought sucked, but loved the Cocker bit)
[Video]Music starts 50 seconds in...Ignore the dancing and shit. Listen to Cocker.
cool 58 Impala parked there...Joe was at his best covering stuff...he had a signature thing
| 1089 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:05:39pm |
re: #1082 Rightwingconspirator
Mine is said to be from a strike on Sahkalin. Nickel Iron, and very well aero eroded. 2.5 inch tall. How rare is one like that? I may be mounting it as a designer pendant, with the meteorite mounted like you would a fine coin.
That was a witnessed fall, Japan, Sahkalin Island... let me check something on the MDB... be right back.
| 1090 |
Daniel Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:05:53pm |
re: #1079 albusteve
Agreed. I was mentored by a writer/cinematographer for my photography. I picked up his disdain for it.
| 1091 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:07:31pm |
re: #1081 NJDhockeyfan
Let's liven it up with Roy Buchanan & Albert Collins...
[Video]
oh man...RIP my blues brothers
| 1092 |
Escaped Hillbilly Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:07:36pm |
too...many...comments...(gasp)
can't post...
need, new...threeeaad.
| 1093 |
swamprat Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:07:49pm |
re: #1067 Walter L. Newton
Maybe some momento you don't even think about; Ebay/ hat once worn by Lee Marvin before he was famous in the yada yada theatre, 19**.
| 1094 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:08:59pm |
| 1096 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:09:22pm |
OK, my Dad, my DAD just called me all toasted. Erin go Bragh, it's for everyone!
| 1097 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:09:42pm |
re: #1090 Rightwingconspirator
Agreed. I was mentored by a writer/cinematographer for my photography. I picked up his disdain for it.
I'm certainly no expert, but a fan needs to get a bit deeper into film/photography to begin to appreciate the differences....my daughter is a pic head....she loves shooting in BW, and is very good at it...it's a different thing
| 1098 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:09:52pm |
re: #1092 Escaped Hillbilly
Join us in the 21st century... get you some broadband...
| 1099 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:10:44pm |
And it's a sad day for National Review as it's website hosts an article from Michelle Malkin. I won't link to it, but its just plain depressing that they'd give her a platform.
[sobs]
| 1101 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:11:05pm |
re: #1085 The Shadow Do
The Chicago Bulls showed up in Dallas tonight to play in...bright green unis!
They lost, as they should have. Just wrong.
At half-time did the Celtics come out and punch them all?
| 1102 |
Daniel Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:11:26pm |
re: #1097 albusteve
I feel I struggle with B&W. With one exception, I really like it in concert photog. That I like to shoot.
| 1103 |
Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:11:42pm |
I just went to visit My Moonbat Brother (MMB™), with whom I had a very nice St. Paddy's day whiskeyfest with no major shillelagh fights and much good cheer.
May I wish that to all Irish and honorary Irish tonight, as the world turns.
| 1104 |
Escaped Hillbilly Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:13:05pm |
re: #1098 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Join us in the 21st century... get you some broadband...
Don't tell me, tell the Army Lodging.
| 1105 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:13:50pm |
re: #1082 Rightwingconspirator
Mine is said to be from a strike on Sahkalin. Nickel Iron, and very well aero eroded. 2.5 inch tall. How rare is one like that? I may be mounting it as a designer pendant, with the meteorite mounted like you would a fine coin.
Who sold that to you? Sakhalin was a witnessed event, Jan 1996, meteorite flew over Sakhalin island, but there was no recorded fall. The Met Bulletin shows no recorded fall for that event, noting found or recovered, no indication that there was anything recovered from that sighting, probably burned up before hitting ground.
You can search the Met Bulletin yourself.
[Link: tin.er.usgs.gov...]
There is a LOT of phony sales that come out of Asia.
| 1106 |
Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:14:08pm |
re: #1103 Cato the Elder
I just went to visit My Moonbat Brother (MMB™), with whom I had a very nice St. Paddy's day whiskeyfest with no major shillelagh fights and much good cheer.
May I wish that to all Irish and honorary Irish tonight, as the world turns.
[clink]
| 1107 |
Daniel Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:14:19pm |
re: #1099 Dark_Falcon
Wow! If I heard that on the street I'd call bullshit.
| 1108 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:14:54pm |
| 1110 |
Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:16:54pm |
re: #1109 jaunte
[Link: www.marriedtothesea.com...]
When all else fails!
Note to self. Make sure Survival Seeds™ comes with grape seeds.
/
| 1111 |
Daniel Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:17:28pm |
re: #1105 Walter L. Newton
It was a gift in 2005 so I'm fine no matter what. I have showed around at the Tucson gem show, a local expert said it's real. But just as one not the provenance. I could run it upstairs and get some shots of it if that would help.
| 1112 |
Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:17:52pm |
re: #1106 Gus 802
[clink]
He did try to poison me with his second-best uisce beatha, though, but I'm immune to crap liquor by now.
| 1113 |
Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:18:21pm |
Gus's Survival Seedbank checklist:
[x] Grape seeds
[x] Pot seeds
[x] Tobacco seeds
/
| 1114 |
swamprat Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:19:21pm |
Swamprat sadly eyes reptile fossil complete with wings and small fossilized piece of charred wood.
"Early dragon" is a fake?
| 1115 |
Spare O'Lake Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:19:34pm |
re: #1070 simoom
His mother died 16 years ago and he's shared those experiences frequently.
Do you generally take issue with people advocating for legislation that touches on their loss of a loved one? As an example, Robert and Deborah Modafferi sharing the experience of the disappearance of their 18 year old daughter while lobbying for "Kristen's Law" which established the National Center for Missing Adults.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
It's interesting, because some would argue that it betrays an emotional motivation lacking in objectivity.
I was watching a Canadian public affairs tv show yesterday where it was suggested that Obama has recently embarked on a strategy of projecting a tougher and more emotional image, in an effort to counter the apparent perception that he has been too weak, aloof and unemotional. Some of the examples cited were his recent more combative stances with the banks, insurers and even Israel.
This current example of using his mother anecdote would fit right into that cynical theory, wouldn't it?
| 1116 |
The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:19:35pm |
re: #1099 Dark_Falcon
And it's a sad day for National Review as it's website hosts an article from Michelle Malkin. I won't link to it, but its just plain depressing that they'd give her a platform.
[sobs]
So true. Jimmah-Ice Productions has a couple of new projects underway, and you reminded me of one of them.
| 1117 |
The Shadow Do Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:19:37pm |
re: #1101 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
At half-time did the Celtics come out and punch them all?
Nah, Mavericks did all the punching that was needed.
| 1119 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:19:52pm |
Luther's boy....Bernard Allison
| 1120 |
NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:20:25pm |
Roy Buchanan - You Shook Me
| 1121 |
Daniel Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:20:31pm |
re: #1105 Walter L. Newton
I had the location name wrong, it is supposedly from this strike
[Link: tin.er.usgs.gov...]
| 1122 |
simoom Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:21:02pm |
re: #1099 Dark_Falcon
And it's a sad day for National Review as it's website hosts an article from Michelle Malkin. I won't link to it, but its just plain depressing that they'd give her a platform.
[sobs]
You made me look :P. What exactly was she advocating? I think it may have been cutting all law enforcement aid to Mexico and retasking it for border enforcement (on our side of the border), but that's just what I inferred.
| 1123 |
simoom Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:22:34pm |
re: #1115 Spare O'Lake
This current example of using his mother anecdote would fit right into that cynical theory, wouldn't it?
Except that he's been sharing that experience while advocating HCR for years.
| 1124 |
NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:23:33pm |
The Commitments should be played on St Patty's Day!
| 1125 |
albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:24:09pm |
re: #1120 NJDhockeyfan
Roy Buchanan - You Shook Me
[Video]
too bad Roy was not a bit more flamboyant...just a very laid back guy, smokin the blues
| 1126 |
Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:24:14pm |
Bob Dylan, "Moonshiner".
Anyone tells me after listening to this that he can't sing has to fight me at dawn. Your choice of weapons.
| 1127 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:24:26pm |
re: #1111 Rightwingconspirator
It was a gift in 2005 so I'm fine no matter what. I have showed around at the Tucson gem show, a local expert said it's real. But just as one not the provenance. I could run it upstairs and get some shots of it if that would help.
LGF started burping. If you had it ID'ed at Tucson, then I imagine it's truly an iron meteorite, but that's still a common thing that happens. Someone will claim that a piece is from a certain fall even if it's not, trying to create a rarity.
If it was a recent event, than it's always possible that the fall had not been classified officially yet, but the only event from that time, 1996, if there was really a find from that fall, it would be in the Met Bul by now.
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Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:25:02pm |
re: #1118 Cato the Elder
Whiskey In The Jar.
[Video]
I used to drink wine. Now I drink whisky. Anything over 1/2 pint in one evening and I'm a wreck the next day. Which explains my current state.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:25:23pm |
re: #1124 NJDhockeyfan
The Commitments should be played on St Patty's Day!
St Paddy. PADDY!
St. Patty was his girlfriend.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:27:05pm |
re: #1107 Rightwingconspirator
Wow! If I heard that on the street I'd call bullshit.
Me, too. I got no joy from reporting it. The story is titled "The Slaughter on the Southern Border" and it consists of Malkin using the deaths of Americans in Juarez to lambast Barack Obama and Felipe Calderón. She shows no insight into the problems Mexico faces in dealing with the cartels and offers no solutions. Another Obama-bashing, xenophobic hatchet job. William F. Buckley must be spinning in his grave tonight.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:27:13pm |
re: #1121 Rightwingconspirator
I had the location name wrong, it is supposedly from this strike
[Link: tin.er.usgs.gov...]
Got it. Sikhote-Alin... Russia... one of the largest iron falls in history, tons of the stuff on the market, about value about 1.00 a gram. Not rare at all, but a fine example of a iron meteorite, one of the best... I have a piece here myself.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:27:19pm |
re: #1125 albusteve
too bad Roy was not a bit more flamboyant...just a very laid back guy, smokin the blues
His brother Pat is such a dick.
/
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albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:28:21pm |
re: #1133 Killgore Trout
His brother Pat is such a dick.
/
doesn't play a guitar...plays himself, he's a self shredder
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:28:24pm |
re: #1124 NJDhockeyfan
Say it out loud! I'm black and I'm proud!
-Jimmy
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The Shadow Do Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:28:31pm |
re: #1115 Spare O'Lake
It's interesting, because some would argue that it betrays an emotional motivation lacking in objectivity.
I was watching a Canadian public affairs tv show yesterday where it was suggested that Obama has recently embarked on a strategy of projecting a tougher and more emotional image, in an effort to counter the apparent perception that he has been too weak, aloof and unemotional. Some of the examples cited were his recent more combative stances with the banks, insurers and even Israel.
This current example of using his mother anecdote would fit right into that cynical theory, wouldn't it?
Not cynical at all. This presidency and all that came before has been all about marketing. This theory is the first to ring true regarding the public dressing down of Israel recently.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:29:13pm |
re: #1124 NJDhockeyfan
That dude was 17 when they filmed this movie.
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albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:29:18pm |
re: #1126 Cato the Elder
Bob Dylan, "Moonshiner".
[Video]Anyone tells me after listening to this that he can't sing has to fight me at dawn. Your choice of weapons.
I cleaned out all those boobs years ago....LGF is now Dylan Safe
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Daniel Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:29:23pm |
re: #1127 Walter L. Newton
Yeah, sorry I gave yo the wrong location, but your link helped a lot already. Mine looks a lot like this one from well inside your link. I used its search.
And thank you, I hope to make a premier designer necklace. I'm deciding about materials to use.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:29:26pm |
re: #1116 iceweasel
So true. Jimmah-Ice Productions has a couple of new projects underway, and you reminded me of one of them.
LMAO! I love it.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:30:17pm |
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Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:30:45pm |
There's no one as Irish as Barack O'Bama
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:31:31pm |
re: #1132 Walter L. Newton
Got it. Sikhote-Alin... Russia... one of the largest iron falls in history, tons of the stuff on the market, about value about 1.00 a gram. Not rare at all, but a fine example of a iron meteorite, one of the best... I have a piece here myself.
Nope... I don't have a piece, just looked, I HAD a piece, gave it away to an auction last year to help raise some money for a choir... I only have a few iron pieces, I'm not a big fan of irons, my big interest is stoney.
I have a Diabolo Canyon piece, a Vaca Muerta (dead cow) piece, a nice Palasite slice from Brahin, large chunk from Nantan China and a little Campo.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:31:53pm |
re: #1135 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Say it out loud! I'm black and I'm proud!
-Jimmy
Do you not get it, lads? The Irish are the blacks of Europe. And Dubliners are the blacks of Ireland. And the Northside Dubliners are the blacks of Dublin. So say it once, say it loud: I'm black and I'm proud.
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Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:32:11pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:32:11pm |
re: #1137 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That dude was 17 when they filmed this movie.
I didn't know that. Cool!
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albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:32:57pm |
trivia...no wiki!
what's Dylan referring to with Hy 61?
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albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:34:09pm |
re: #1144 Walter L. Newton
Nope... I don't have a piece, just looked, I HAD a piece, gave it away to an auction last year to help raise some money for a choir... I only have a few iron pieces, I'm not a big fan of irons, my big interest is stoney.
I have a Diabolo Canyon piece, a Vaca Muerta (dead cow) piece, a nice Palasite slice from Brahin, large chunk from Nantan China and a little Campo.
I'll take the fancy one...thanks (I don't want no commie space stuff)
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simoom Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:34:13pm |
re: #1130 Jimmah
Some Irish music from My Bloody Valentine :
[Video]
An Irish take on "I can't help falling in love with you" that played during the credits of of "Some Kind of Wonderful."
Jump about halfway in and the song should start, it's by the Tin Cans (if I remember correctly).
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:34:22pm |
re: #1149 albusteve
trivia...no wiki!
what's Dylan referring to with Hy 61?
Biblical exegesis, among other things.
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Daniel Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:34:34pm |
re: #1132 Walter L. Newton
That really helps to know there is a lot on the market! At least it is a one of a kind shape. I'll send you a shot after I have done it up. You do have quite a collection. I only have one other, a slice that is etched. I use it to teach gold casters what a grain structure looks like.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:34:49pm |
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Daniel Ballard Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:35:15pm |
I'm off to bed need my sleep. I hope you all wake up hangover free!
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albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:36:08pm |
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Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:36:16pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:36:21pm |
Boy. I sure wish Walter L. Newton would email me.
I can not seem to get his link to work.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:37:09pm |
re: #1153 Rightwingconspirator
That really helps to know there is a lot on the market! At least it is a one of a kind shape. I'll send you a shot after I have done it up. You do have quite a collection. I only have one other, a slice that is etched. I use it to teach gold casters what a grain structure looks like.
Called Widmanstätten Patterns. My Campo is etched.
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:38:38pm |
re: #1123 simoom
Except that he's been sharing that experience while advocating HCR for years.
Yes you have a point there. By the way, Barack Obama was a Harvard Law Professor when this incident happened. I wonder why he didn't take the phone from his dying mother and deal with the situation himself.
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albusteve Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:38:48pm |
re: #1159 Walter L. Newton
Called Widmanstätten Patterns. My Campo is etched.
mine is too!...what a coincidence!
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:38:59pm |
re: #1158 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Boy. I sure wish Walter L. Newton would email me.
I can not seem to get his link to work.
I emailed you... what's up?
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:39:53pm |
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The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:40:43pm |
re: #1131 Dark_Falcon
Me, too. I got no joy from reporting it. The story is titled "The Slaughter on the Southern Border" and it consists of Malkin using the deaths of Americans in Juarez to lambast Barack Obama and Felipe Calderón. She shows no insight into the problems Mexico faces in dealing with the cartels and offers no solutions. Another Obama-bashing, xenophobic hatchet job. William F. Buckley must be spinning in his grave tonight.
I'm still wondering when and if NRO will give the Derb the boot for that crazy new site he's associated with.
It's really a mess what NRO has become. Not to mention Andy McCarthy, head nirther over there, linker to the shrieking harpy, and more.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:42:16pm |
OK, reposted in hono(u)r of James Joyce.
And now, just to honor one of St. Paddy's Island's quondam least-favorite sons, a self-mocking passage from Finnegans Wake, proving not only that it's not unreadable, but that it's indeed one of the punniest thinks ever wrotten in Angstlish:
You see, chaps, it will trickle out, freaksily of course, but the
tom and the shorty of it is: he was in his bardic memory low.
All the time he kept on treasuring with condign satisfaction each
and every crumb of trektalk, covetous of his neighbour's word,
and if ever, during a Munda conversazione commoted in the
nation's interest, delicate tippits were thrown out to him
touching his evil courses by some wellwishers, vainly pleading by
scriptural arguments with the opprobrious papist about trying
to brace up for the kidos of the thing, Scally wag, and be a men
instead of a dem scrounger, dish it all, such as: Pray, what is the meaning, sousy, of that continental expression, if you ever
came acrux it, we think it is a word transpiciously like canaille?:
or: Did you anywhere, kennel, on your gullible's travels or
during your rural troubadouring, happen to stumble upon a
certain gay young nobleman whimpering to the name of Low
Swine who always addresses women out of the one comer of
his mouth, lives on loans and is furtivefree yours of age?
without one sigh of haste like the supreme prig he was, and not a bit
sorry, he would pull a vacant landlubber's face, root with
earwaker's pensile in the outer of his lauscher and then, lisping,
the prattlepate parnella, to kill time, and swatting his deadbest
to think what under the canopies of Jansens Chrest would any
decent son of an Albiogenselman who had bin to an university
think, let a lent hit a hint and begin to tell all the intelligentsia
admitted to that tamileasy samtalaisy conclamazzione (since, still
and before physicians, lawyers merchant, belfry pollititians,
agricolous manufraudurers, sacrestanes of the Pure River Society,
philanthropicks lodging on as many boards round the panesthetic
at the same time as possible) the whole lifelong swrine story of
his entire low cornaille existence, abusing his deceased ancestors
wherever the sods were and one moment tarabooming great
blunderguns (poh!) about his farfamed fine Poppamore, Mr
Humhum, whom history, climate and entertainment made the
first of his sept and always up to debt, though Eavens ears ow
many fines he faces, and another moment
visanvrerssas,cruaching three jeers (pah!) for his rotten little ghost of a Peppybeg,
Mr Himmyshimmy, a blighty, a reeky, a lighty, a scrapy, a
babbly, a ninny, dirty seventh among thieves and always bottom
sawyer, till nowan knowed how howmely howme could be,
giving unsolicited testimony on behalf of the absent, as glib as
eaveswater to those present (who meanwhile, with increasing lack of
interest in his semantics, allowed various subconscious smickers
to drivel slowly across their fichers), unconsciously explaining,
for inkstands, with a meticulosity bordering on the insane, the
various meanings of all the different foreign parts of speech he
misused and cuttlefishing every lie unshrinkable about all the
[cont.]
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:42:31pm |
[cont.]
other people in the story, leaving out, of course, foreconsciously,
the simple worf and plague and poison they had cornered him
about until there was not a snoozer among them but was utterly
undeceived in the heel of the reel by the recital of the rigmarole.
He went without saying that the cull disliked anything anyway
approaching a plain straightforward standup or knockdown row
and, as often as he was called in to umpire any octagonal
argument among slangwhangers, the accomplished washout always
used to rub shoulders with the last speaker and clasp shakers (the
handtouch which is speech without words) and agree to every
word as soon as half uttered, command me!, your servant, good,
I revere you, how, my seer? be drinking that! quite truth,
gratias, I'm yoush, see wha'm hearing?, also goods, please it, me
sure?, be filling this!, quiso, you said it, apasafello, muchas
grassyass, is there firing-on-me?, is their girlic-on-you?, to your
good self, your sulphur, and then at once focuss his whole
unbalanced attention upon the next octagonist who managed to
catch a listener's eye, asking and imploring him out of his
piteous onewinker, (hemoptysia diadumenos) whether there was
anything in the world he could do to please him and to overflow
his tumbletantaliser for him yet once more.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:42:46pm |
re: #1166 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Thanks. Replied.
I'll work up something for you tomorrow and email you some info.
To bed.
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The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:43:11pm |
re: #1160 Spare O'Lake
Yes you have a point there. By the way, Barack Obama was a Harvard Law Professor when this incident happened. I wonder why he didn't take the phone from his dying mother and deal with the situation himself.
Obama was never a professor at Harvard Law. Don't you mean he was in law school there when it happened?
I thought it was when he was still in school, but maybe it was when he was teaching at UChi?
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:43:36pm |
re: #1156 albusteve
no, it's more simple than that
Do tell. I am, as you perhaps don't yet know, always willing to learn.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:44:36pm |
Time:
Take a good look around, Democrats, this is likely to be as bad as it's going to get. As Kate Pickert and I note in a story out today on time.com, the 24-hour cable net cycle has been stuck on ugly process maneuverings in the vacuum of no score from the Congressional Budget Office and no bill. This meme just adds to the back room aura and sweetheart reputation the legislation has enjoyed for months. You're getting hit on all sides – from the President, the Speaker, constituents, even donors. Oh, and, it turns out most folks really do hate you.
But, oh how quickly things can change. If you pass the bill, next week's coverage is likely to trumpet triumph, the most productive legislative session since LBJ, an historic and seminal victory. It's getting from here to there that's the hard part – especially for those 12-20 swing votes under the most pressure. For them, especially the vulnerable ones, this might not be rock bottom: they may well lose reelection. On the other hand, as Paul Begala told the House Democratic Caucus yesterday, does anyone think that voters at the polls in November will remember self-executing rules and the Cornhusker kickback? They didn't remember Tom DeLay's arm twisting (which won him a reprimand from the House Ethics Committee) on the Medicare Prescription Drug bill, no matter how hard Dems tried to remind them. So, really, this whole process brouhaha is directed at those swing Democrats, attempting to scare them into bringing down the bill. Because, if Republicans really thought that passage of health care reform was going to be bad for Dems, would they be protesting quite so much right now? As Republicans used to say before the 2004 elections defending Medicare Part D, it's hard to spend hundreds of billions of dollars expanding health care coverage and not have it be a net positive in the polls.
Ouch!
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:46:07pm |
re: #1170 iceweasel
Obama was never a professor at Harvard Law. Don't you mean he was in law school there when it happened?
I thought it was when he was still in school, but maybe it was when he was teaching at UChi?
He was teaching law at UChi. Unfortunately, the average insurance company doesn't actually accede to all your demands when you say in a commanding tone, "I'm a law professor!"
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Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:47:34pm |
re: #1131 Dark_Falcon
Me, too. I got no joy from reporting it. The story is titled "The Slaughter on the Southern Border" and it consists of Malkin using the deaths of Americans in Juarez to lambast Barack Obama and Felipe Calderón. She shows no insight into the problems Mexico faces in dealing with the cartels and offers no solutions. Another Obama-bashing, xenophobic hatchet job. William F. Buckley must be spinning in his grave tonight.
The answer has been staring at us right in the face for years now. It's time to legalize drugs. Once it's commercialized it would remove the underworld elements and the cartels.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:48:27pm |
There's a dear little plant that grows in our isle,
'Twas St. Patrick himself, sure, that sets it;
And the sun of his labor with pleasure did smile,
And with dew from his eye often wet it.
It grows through the bog, through the brake, through the mireland,
And they call it the dear little Shamrock of Ireland.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:48:51pm |
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:49:22pm |
re: #1176 Gus 802
The answer has been staring at us right in the face for years now. It's time to legalize drugs. Once it's commercialized it would remove the underworld elements and the cartels.
Can't do that for things like Meth and heroin. They are simply too damaging and they eliminate people's ability to support themselves. Sorry, but it can't be done. We can legalize pot, but not hard drugs. They are banned for a good reason.
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Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:51:05pm |
re: #1179 Dark_Falcon
Can't do that for things like Meth and heroin. They are simply too damaging and they eliminate people's ability to support themselves. Sorry, but it can't be done. We can legalize pot, but not hard drugs. They are banned for a good reason.
That works. Where do I sign?
Pot is the biggest seller anyway and the biggest money maker. Time to stop the BS.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:51:33pm |
'Tis better to buy a small bouquet
And give to your friend this very day,
Than a bushel of roses white and red
To lay on his coffin after he's dead.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:51:56pm |
re: #1179 Dark_Falcon
Can't do that for things like Meth and heroin. They are simply too damaging and they eliminate people's ability to support themselves. Sorry, but it can't be done. We can legalize pot, but not hard drugs. They are banned for a good reason.
Alcohol is the hardest drug of all. Jack London wrote a book about it - "King Alcohol". To pretend that criminalizing certain drugs benefits society is madness.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:53:46pm |
"I'm Looking Over a Four Leaf Clover" - Chevy Chase & Ken Shapiro
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Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:54:17pm |
re: #1182 Cato the Elder
Alcohol is the hardest drug of all. Jack London wrote a book about it - "King Alcohol". To pretend that criminalizing certain drugs benefits society is madness.
Morally one can say that sometimes the criminalization process and the penal system is more damning then the vices they pretend to control. That is barring anything that might harm other such as DUI/DWI.
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The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:55:04pm |
re: #1182 Cato the Elder
Alcohol is the hardest drug of all. Jack London wrote a book about it - "King Alcohol". To pretend that criminalizing certain drugs benefits society is madness.
Agree on alcohol, but I think DF has a point too, especially about meth.
But as Brietbart can show us, the worst drug of all is Rageahol.
/another Jimmah-Ice production in our series of demotivational wingnut posters.
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Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:55:42pm |
Case in point. Throwing someone in an 8' X 10' cell for 35 years for possessing 4 ounces of pot. Seems like a rather evil and sadistic punishment.
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:57:05pm |
re: #1170 iceweasel
Obama was never a professor at Harvard Law. Don't you mean he was in law school there when it happened?
I thought it was when he was still in school, but maybe it was when he was teaching at UChi?
You're right, thanks. He worked as a civil rights attorney in Chicago and taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004. In 1993 he joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 13-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development, where he was an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996.
His mother died in November, 1995 and this incident, according to him, happenned during the last months of her life.
My curiosity about this apparent lack of advocacy for his dying mom stands. I suppose maybe she was too headstrong to let him help her, but I do find it odd.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:57:22pm |
re: #1182 Cato the Elder
Alcohol is the hardest drug of all. Jack London wrote a book about it - "King Alcohol". To pretend that criminalizing certain drugs benefits society is madness.
I hear you Cato but alcohol does not eliminate the ability to support oneself in the vast majority of its users. Meth does and its manufacture is extremely dangerous. I'm not fan of the "War on Drugs", but some things need to be illegal. If that means we have to keep at them with no end in sight, that's just what we need to do. But we should drop the "war" talk. We should honestly admit that some of these drugs are a permanent problem. We won't get rid of them entirely, and all we can do is keep them cut back to manageable levels.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:57:56pm |
re: #1184 Gus 802
Morally one can say that sometimes the criminalization process and the penal system is more damning then the vices they pretend to control. That is barring anything that might harm other such as DUI/DWI.
We've done a pretty good job cracking down on those.
Does anyone think that burning down meth labs makes a dent in the demand?
America remains the biggest coke market in the world. Does anyone think coke being illegal makes a dent in the market?
It's time to grow up and legalize, and tax, and regulate.
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:58:03pm |
re: #1188 Spare O'Lake
Well, I think this is officially the biggest asshole moment I've seen you pull.
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simoom Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:58:45pm |
I just saw mentioned at Balloon-Juice that C-SPAN has just put up transcript searchable video archives going back at least 16 years. We've entered into a new era of blogger quote mining and hypocrisy uncovering :P.
[Link: www.c-spanvideo.org...]
It's kind of awesome. I just did a search for the "byrd rule", chose a video of Pete Domenici from '95, searched within that video's transcript for the phrase, clicked on a paragraph two hours in and it automatically jumped the video to there.
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:59:02pm |
re: #1190 Cato the Elder
Some hard drugs can only be legal in the context of a treatment and/or maintenance program. They can't be consumer products.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:00:46pm |
re: #1189 Dark_Falcon
I hear you Cato but alcohol does not eliminate the ability to support oneself in the vast majority of its users. Meth does and its manufacture is extremely dangerous.
In a real lab, making meth would be no more dangerous than manufacturing Tylenol.
And for your information, meth is the drug of choice for Americans who can't maintain their four-job routine to support themselves and their families.
It should be subsidized under the present capitalist exploitation system.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:01:41pm |
re: #1193 Obdicut
Some hard drugs can only be legal in the context of a treatment and/or maintenance program. They can't be consumer products.
Really? Tell that to Rush Limbaugh.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:02:34pm |
re: #1193 Obdicut
Some hard drugs can only be legal in the context of a treatment and/or maintenance program. They can't be consumer products.
Quite Concur.
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:02:46pm |
re: #1188 Spare O'Lake
By the way, you can't sue insurance companies for deaths caused by refusal to pay for treatment. It's part of their current protections. They're safe from any damages for refusal to pay for treatment-- the most they can do is be forced to give the treatment.
Not a lot of people know that.
Recently, there's been some movement on this, but certainly back in the nineties it was damn solid.
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Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:02:50pm |
re: #1190 Cato the Elder
We've done a pretty good job cracking down on those.
Does anyone think that burning down meth labs makes a dent in the demand?
America remains the biggest coke market in the world. Does anyone think coke being illegal makes a dent in the market?
It's time to grow up and legalize, and tax, and regulate.
Correct. If I wanted to cop some coke I even without knowing anyone that deals it could find it in probably a day.
One also has to ask. What would the benefits be of legalization. Even if drugs like cocaine and meth are dangerous the effective result would be eliminating the underworld that supports the illegal drug trade. Which would be more beneficial?
We've seen this before with alcohol prohibition. Once that was repealed the gangland killings literally disappeared overnight.
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Uninformed Opinion Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:03:20pm |
re: #1194 Cato the Elder
In a real lab, making meth would be no more dangerous than manufacturing Tylenol.
And for your information, meth is the drug of choice for Americans who can't maintain their four-job routine to support themselves and their families.
It should be subsidized under the present capitalist exploitation system.
Oil fields world wide would increase productivity.
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:03:25pm |
re: #1195 Cato the Elder
Okay. I'm not quite sure what your point is.
They can't be allowed to be consumer products.
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Aye Pod Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:04:10pm |
Here's a film - one of ice-ski and I's faves - you might want to watch sometime : Tony Hancock in "The Rebel". Night folks :)
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The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:04:12pm |
re: #1186 Gus 802
Case in point. Throwing someone in an 8' X 10' cell for 35 years for possessing 4 ounces of pot. Seems like a rather evil and sadistic punishment.
Absolutely. And don't get me started on the huge disparity in sentencing b/t crack and cocaine. 100-1 disparity until earlier this week. Now it's only 20-1, and so it's only 20x the racial bias.
Durbin's Bid to End Sentencing Disparity
More than 80 percent of those arrested for crack have been black (despite the fact that most crack users are white), further exacerbating the racial disparities of a criminal-justice system author Michelle Alexander compares to Jim Crow segregation in her book The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness. More than 20 years since the passage of the law, the arbitrarily draconian penalties for crack cocaine have contributed to the increasing racial disparities in the U.S. prison system and helped swell the number of those behind bars to fully more than 1 percent of the entire U.S. population.
(IIRC the 20-1 compromise is what they went with)
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:04:16pm |
re: #1175 SanFranciscoZionist
He was teaching law at UChi. Unfortunately, the average insurance company doesn't actually accede to all your demands when you say in a commanding tone, "I'm a law professor!"
See my #1188.
I wonder if he even tried, or got someone from his law firm involved.
It just seems odd to me.
If I had been in his place I would like to think that I would have gone ballistic on the insurance company and done all that I could have to relieve her from this horrible burden of being forced to deal with these fuckers on her own.
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:06:28pm |
re: #1203 Spare O'Lake
First of all: As I said, they can't be sued for refusing coverage after someone dies. Or for damages. Only for treatment.
Second of all: They have lawyers too. Lots of them. Really well-paid ones.
Now can you stop your incredibly classless speculating about Obama's behavior during the brutal death of his mother by cancer? Can you have a speck of goddamn decency?
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Uninformed Opinion Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:06:53pm |
re: #1202 iceweasel
(IIRC the 20-1 compromise is what they went with)
It seems that you can divide the country into meth and crack areas...
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:07:53pm |
re: #1203 Spare O'Lake
See my #1188.
I wonder if he even tried, or got someone from his law firm involved.
It just seems odd to me.
If I had been in his place I would like to think that I would have gone ballistic on the insurance company and done all that I could have to relieve her from this horrible burden of being forced to deal with these fuckers on her own.
UGH Spare! So low to question Obama and his Mother's insurance. There's other things. This just is bad.
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Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:08:30pm |
re: #1202 iceweasel
(IIRC the 20-1 compromise is what they went with)
The results of many of the arrests is the forced socialization process of the individual into the penal system and penal society. Once in prison for a simple drug possession charge they literally enter a criminal university as they are exposed to real criminals and also forced to survive within such an environment. Thus they have no choice but to fit in with their peers while in prison. Effectively creating more criminals in the long run.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:09:49pm |
re: #1203 Spare O'Lake
See my #1188.
I wonder if he even tried, or got someone from his law firm involved.
It just seems odd to me.
If I had been in his place I would like to think that I would have gone ballistic on the insurance company and done all that I could have to relieve her from this horrible burden of being forced to deal with these fuckers on her own.
And if he discussed in detail all he did to try to advocate for her, we'd hear about what a narcissist he is, and how it's all about him.
I'm sorry, but this is desperate nit-picking here.
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:10:08pm |
re: #1197 Obdicut
By the way, you can't sue insurance companies for deaths caused by refusal to pay for treatment. It's part of their current protections. They're safe from any damages for refusal to pay for treatment-- the most they can do is be forced to give the treatment.
Not a lot of people know that.
Recently, there's been some movement on this, but certainly back in the nineties it was damn solid.
I do not read your comment as an attempt to excuse his apparent passivity at the time in the face of his mother's dilemma, which is all I was dealing with.
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:10:20pm |
re: #1207 Gus 802
My solution to this:
Keep the prisons private, but tie their payments to recidivism rates amongst their parolees. Don't let them pull shit to keep them in their forever, either. That way, we'd see some real efforts being made towards figuring out what actually can help prevent convicts from returning to crime.
The Prison lobby is incredibly strong, though, so this is near-impossible.
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The Shadow Do Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:10:22pm |
re: #1184 Gus 802
Morally one can say that sometimes the criminalization process and the penal system is more damning then the vices they pretend to control. That is barring anything that might harm other such as DUI/DWI.
Those that would argue for free range drug access either do not have kids or they do not give a shit about kids.
If you need to do drugs then have at it. Don't try to shed your guilt on others. Please.
Or maybe you think the terrorist drugs cartels will take their winnings and open a chain of Taco Bells or some such?
"Morally one can say" ... any damn thing I suppose.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:10:44pm |
re: #1200 Obdicut
Okay. I'm not quite sure what your point is.
They can't be allowed to be consumer products.
Oh, but gambling and porn and sex-bomber flights to Thailand so fat middle-aged guys can fuck 14-year-old girls are fine consumer choices?
Back in the day, before America freaked its collective "brain" about drugs, your aunt Sadie could by laudanum to soothe her nerves, and her nephew Sherlock could get cocaine to boost his reasoning powers, and nobody gave a shit.
Laudanum = morphine.
Cocaine = well, cocaine.
How have we made things better by prohibition?
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Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:11:57pm |
re: #1211 The Shadow Do
Those that would argue for free range drug access either do not have kids or they do not give a shit about kids.
If you need to do drugs then have at it. Don't try to shed your guilt on others. Please.
Or maybe you think the terrorist drugs cartels will take their winnings and open a chain of Taco Bells or some such?
"Morally one can say" ... any damn thing I suppose.
Huh? Who's trying to shed guilt on others?
It's the fact that it's illegal that it supports terrorist organizations. It's the fact that it's legal that it's run by drug cartels.
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:13:32pm |
re: #1212 Cato the Elder
First of all, the purity was very different-- as Confessions of an English Opium eater will tell you.
Second of all, I'm not talking about morphine and cocaine. I'm talking about anything that can alter one's mental state to make one an immediate goddamn danger. Some drugs really don't have a 'mild' setting.
Anyway, it's late, I'm tired, can't do this justice. Sorry.
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windsagio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:13:46pm |
re: #1204 Obdicut
Very excellently said, but I wanted to specifically give you props for the Welch moment :D
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simoom Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:15:03pm |
re: #1192 simoom
I'm really digging this C-SPAN video archive. Here's where the Obama impersonator shows up during tonight's White House Correspondents Dinner:
[Link: www.c-spanarchives.org...]
That link will jump to where the starts (the bit was kind of lame and fell flat) :P.
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windsagio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:15:23pm |
re: #1214 Obdicut
Would, for instance, LSD be okay by your book? Finding the limits for this kind of thing is always interesting :D
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:15:38pm |
re: #1206 Stanley Sea
UGH Spare! So low to question Obama and his Mother's insurance. There's other things. This just is bad.
I disagree. He has chosen to use the anecdote for partisan purposes, so I think it is fair game to wonder out loud about his own personal actions at the time.
I do understand that his partisan supporters here will probably attack me personally for this line of inquiry...what else is new?
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windsagio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:17:19pm |
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windsagio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:17:38pm |
re: #1218 Spare O'Lake
At this point I tihnk you're just fishing for -'s.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:17:39pm |
re: #1209 Spare O'Lake
I do not read your comment as an attempt to excuse his apparent passivity at the time in the face of his mother's dilemma, which is all I was dealing with.
As a gift, in exchange for your words of something, please accept this special version of my avatar made especially for thread-shitting assholes. NSFW.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:18:27pm |
re: #1214 Obdicut
First of all, the purity was very different-- as Confessions of an English Opium eater will tell you.
Second of all, I'm not talking about morphine and cocaine. I'm talking about anything that can alter one's mental state to make one an immediate goddamn danger. Some drugs really don't have a 'mild' setting.
Anyway, it's late, I'm tired, can't do this justice. Sorry.
OK, recognizing that the conversation is tabled because you're tired, let me just say that the "purity" issue would be taken care of by legalization and regulation.
Or when was the last time you heard of somebody dying from a bad batch of bathtub gin?
And any good chemist could take a "rough" drug like meth and mild it down to the point where it wouldn't kill you or make you crazee.
Your argument is self-defeating.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:19:12pm |
re: #1218 Spare O'Lake
I disagree. He has chosen to use the anecdote for partisan purposes, so I think it is fair game to wonder out loud about his own personal actions at the time.
I do understand that his partisan supporters here will probably attack me personally for this line of inquiry...what else is new?
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Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:19:36pm |
The day drugs are outlawed only outlaws will sell drugs.
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The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:19:53pm |
re: #1218 Spare O'Lake
I disagree. He has chosen to use the anecdote for partisan purposes
Rubbish, I'm sorry. This reminds me the people who also claimed that every single mention of Obama's life story-- the sorts of references and mentions that have always, always been boiler-plate campaign speech, about a candidate's personal and family history -- were also Obama 'using it for partisan purposes'.
They claimed that about every mention of his childhood, every mention of his grandparents, every mention of his life story.
Even while we were fed a steady stream of references to Palin's life story by the McCain campaign. This is just normal business-- except when it's Obama, apparently.
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windsagio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:19:57pm |
re: #1223 Cato the Elder
On this subject, my semi-criminal cousin (I've mentioned him before) has a funny little lecture he gives from his bad old days about the various quality levels of meth.
Short version: Crystal is okay, don't take the Choad. (Yes thats what they called it, at least in Seattle)
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:20:35pm |
re: #1223 Cato the Elder
Your argument is self-defeating.
If you mild it down, then it's not meth. Meth is the amped up version of, well, amph. If you accept they have to be a certain milder formula, you're accepting banning the stronger version.
Intensity of dosage-- drug delivery-- is one of the largest differences, both in effect and molecularly.
Now I've really got to go to bed.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:22:12pm |
re: #1218 Spare O'Lake
I disagree. He has chosen to use the anecdote for partisan purposes, so I think it is fair game to wonder out loud about his own personal actions at the time.
I do understand that his partisan supporters here will probably attack me personally for this line of inquiry...what else is new?
I see you making your partisan points with a total lack of empathy.
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windsagio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:22:45pm |
OT: I'm annoyed, I don't have cable, and I'm waiting for the new South Park episode to go up on their website.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:23:53pm |
My biggest, best argument for wanting drugs to be legalized, standardized, taxed, and regulated:
I really want to see what substances Sarah Palin gets into when the legal impediments are gone.
I'm betting on synthetic peyote (visions of wishful thinking realized in dreams) and absinthe (better fake orgasms for hubby).
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darthstar Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:24:08pm |
Popped in, but going to bed...looks like we got some drunk postin' going on upthread. Take a break, people.
Cheers, and I'll catch you on the flipside.
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The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:25:11pm |
re: #1229 Stanley Sea
I see you making your partisan points with a total lack of empathy.
The insinuations that Obama somehow neglected his mother while she was dying are disgusting. And they remind me of the wingnuts who howled that Obama was 'using' his grandmother's ill health when he visted her and when he attended her funeral-- when they weren't shrieking that he was neglecting her.
Wingnuttery is extremely flexible like that. Once you grasp the allimportant principle of ODS: everything Obama does must be wrong.
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:25:16pm |
re: #1208 SanFranciscoZionist
And if he discussed in detail all he did to try to advocate for her, we'd hear about what a narcissist he is, and how it's all about him.
I'm sorry, but this is desperate nit-picking here.
Don't apologize. We can disagree without calling names.
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The Shadow Do Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:25:18pm |
re: #1213 Gus 802
Huh? Who's trying to shed guilt on others?
It's the fact that it's illegal that it supports terrorist organizations. It's the fact that it's legal that it's run by drug cartels.
Arguing with a drug user is like arguing with a pig. Pointless, and the pig tends to like it.
I wish you well, seriously. Goodnight, and good luck.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:26:39pm |
re: #1218 Spare O'Lake
I disagree. He has chosen to use the anecdote for partisan purposes, so I think it is fair game to wonder out loud about his own personal actions at the time.
I do understand that his partisan supporters here will probably attack me personally for this line of inquiry...what else is new?
Huh. I can't help but compare and contrast this new set of partisan rules to those in place when people commented on the whole 'my little boy may have to stand before a death panel' routine.
What's the difference--oh yeah. Obama's mother was actually sick.
But if all you want is a personal attack from a crazed Dem partisan, I can probably sum up the moral indignation. It's pretty late, but I have pizza.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:27:15pm |
re: #1233 iceweasel
The insinuations that Obama somehow neglected his mother while she was dying are disgusting. And they remind me of the wingnuts who howled that Obama was 'using' his grandmother's ill health when he visted her and when he attended her funeral-- when they weren't shrieking that he was neglecting her.
Wingnuttery is extremely flexible like that. Once you grasp the allimportant principle of ODS: everything Obama does must be wrong.
Same thing as BDS and PDS (which is real, even though I despise Sarah Palin). The person targeted is absolute evil. Everything they do is in service to the devil. Very sick.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:27:28pm |
re: #1223 Cato the Elder
OK, recognizing that the conversation is tabled because you're tired, let me just say that the "purity" issue would be taken care of by legalization and regulation.
Or when was the last time you heard of somebody dying from a bad batch of bathtub gin?
And any good chemist could take a "rough" drug like meth and mild it down to the point where it wouldn't kill you or make you crazee.
Your argument is self-defeating.
Is there a mild form of PCP? (Just askin'.)
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windsagio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:27:29pm |
re: #1236 SanFranciscoZionist
I can do it, I totally have something I could say, but it might be a bit divisive, so I want somebody's permission first :P
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windsagio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:28:14pm |
re: #1239 SanFranciscoZionist
you can take less of it, afaik. Acid was the main thing I could think of. More makes it last longer, but you're always going on a trip.
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Obdicut Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:28:21pm |
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:30:18pm |
re: #1239 SanFranciscoZionist
Is there a mild form of PCP? (Just askin'.)
Yes. Gently mixed with decent Colombian bud, and the most you get is a ball-rush.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:31:45pm |
re: #1243 Cato the Elder
Yes. Gently mixed with decent Colombian bud, and the most you get is a ball-rush.
I don't even want to know how you knew that.
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austin_blue Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:32:59pm |
Good evening, my friends!
Just got in from a St. Paddy's day party (slow cooked corned beef, cabbage and tatties, along with Guinness and some Irish single malts), so this is a drive-by. Check out Tom Friedman's column in the NYT today. It actually makes some sense of the East Jerusalem contretemps of last week.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
Oh, and the SXSW Music Festival started to crank up in full gear tonight. We have our back windows open (pointing north, we are just south of downtown) and the bands in open air venues just shut down at midnight Central Time. For music junkies, the next four days are killer bee.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:33:01pm |
re: #1243 Cato the Elder
Yes. Gently mixed with decent Colombian bud, and the most you get is a ball-rush.
Well, OK. My dad was a cop in Santa Barbara in the 70s, you must understand, so my 'why you shouldn't do drugs' stories were, well, hair-raising.
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Uninformed Opinion Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:33:08pm |
Its only partisan when its the other side.
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The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:33:09pm |
re: #1238 Dark_Falcon
Same thing as BDS and PDS (which is real, even though I despise Sarah Palin). The person targeted is absolute evil. Everything they do is in service to the devil. Very sick.
Absolutely. I have no patience for that kind of crap-- I don't care who's targeted. I hated the BDS people who hated Bush for everything he did-- even insinuating that Laura Bush killed her HS boyfriend -- just as much as I hated the PDS people who can't even bring themselves to say that Palin loves her kids. Which she obviously does. And the people who had kneejerk Hillary hate too. ViNCe FoStER!1! etc.
This kind of crap is poisonous and antithetical to reason and any kind of genuine engagement in politics.
And don't people get tired of always having some hideous enemy? The new enemy is always the worst, always Satan. Emmanuel Goldstein! (or whoever it was in 1984).
The obligatory 24/7 Hate. Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia.
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:33:26pm |
re: #1226 iceweasel
Rubbish, I'm sorry. This reminds me the people who also claimed that every single mention of Obama's life story-- the sorts of references and mentions that have always, always been boiler-plate campaign speech, about a candidate's personal and family history -- were also Obama 'using it for partisan purposes'.
They claimed that about every mention of his childhood, every mention of his grandparents, every mention of his life story.
Even while we were fed a steady stream of references to Palin's life story by the McCain campaign. This is just normal business-- except when it's Obama, apparently.
Please don't apologize. We can disagree...it's OK.
I do think though that Obama's use of the anecdote is for the partisan political purpose of rallying public support for HRC, and I frankly do not understand why anyone here would dispute that. His use of the anecdote prompted my question, and I think it was a natural question to ask.
Do you deny that the anecdote is on the teleprompter?
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:33:51pm |
re: #1244 Dark_Falcon
I don't even want to know how you knew that.
Buying laced dope in the seventies.
| 1252 |
Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:34:25pm |
re: #1237 windsagio
Wait, is Gus either?
I'd ask but I don't see the point. I've experimented but it pales in comparison to what my peers did at the time. I can count those experiences on my hands and possibly a few toes to come up with the sum total.
There's a tendency in some circles to believe that if one is in support of drug legalization that they are also drug users. Nothing can be further from the truth as we have seen with Milton Friedman.
There is not correlation between advocating this point and usage.
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simoom Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:34:32pm |
re: #1188 Spare O'Lake
His mother died in November, 1995 and this incident, according to him, happenned during the last months of her life.
My curiosity about this apparent lack of advocacy for his dying mom stands. I suppose maybe she was too headstrong to let him help her, but I do find it odd.
It wasn't long ago that I was at my brother's bed side as cancer killed him. Luckly his government healthcare was completely painless when it came to providing excellent home and hospice care. I can't begin to imagine wrangling with some insurance company phone center as I and my family dealt with that emotionally trying time. I was in no shape to effectively do anything.
Speculating that Obama didn't do everything in his power to alleviate his mother's suffering... it makes me shudder with revulsion.
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windsagio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:35:31pm |
re: #1252 Gus 802
I've never been high, but I'm for (as far as I can think of) total legalization.
PS: The new SP is up now, so I'll be deistracted.
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Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:35:34pm |
re: #1252 Gus 802
I'd ask but I don't see the point. I've experimented but it pales in comparison to what my peers did at the time. I can count those experiences on my hands and possibly a few toes to come up with the sum total.
There's a tendency in some circles to believe that if one is in support of drug legalization that they are also drug users. Nothing can be further from the truth as we have seen with Milton Friedman.
There is not correlation between advocating this point and usage.
There is not no correlation between advocating this point and usage.
PIMF
| 1256 |
Spare O'Lake Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:35:44pm |
re: #1236 SanFranciscoZionist
Huh. I can't help but compare and contrast this new set of partisan rules to those in place when people commented on the whole 'my little boy may have to stand before a death panel' routine.
What's the difference--oh yeah. Obama's mother was actually sick.
But if all you want is a personal attack from a crazed Dem partisan, I can probably sum up the moral indignation. It's pretty late, but I have pizza.
I knew you were better. Mushrooms and pepperoni please.
| 1257 |
wee fury Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:35:49pm |
The thing is . . . serious drug addiction does not just hurt the addict. It flows down to the family, community, law enforcement, and institutions. The serious addict will do anything for their next fix. And, throughout it all -- they will deny that they have a problem.
So, no, I do not believe illegal drugs should be legalized. It would only compound an already serious problem.
| 1258 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:35:57pm |
re: #1249 iceweasel
Absolutely. I have no patience for that kind of crap-- I don't care who's targeted. I hated the BDS people who hated Bush for everything he did-- even insinuating that Laura Bush killed her HS boyfriend -- just as much as I hated the PDS people who can't even bring themselves to say that Palin loves her kids. Which she obviously does. And the people who had kneejerk Hillary hate too. ViNCe FoStER!1! etc.
This kind of crap is poisonous and antithetical to reason and any kind of genuine engagement in politics.
And don't people get tired of always having some hideous enemy? The new enemy is always the worst, always Satan. Emmanuel Goldstein! (or whoever it was in 1984).The obligatory 24/7 Hate. Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia.
Exactly. I don't like Barack Obama's policies, and I sometimes don't like hhow he conducts himself, but he's not some arch-fiend. He just sees the world differently than I do and he makes his decisions from that point of view. I, however, do think he's wrong and work thwart him on that basis.
| 1259 |
The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:36:20pm |
re: #1250 Spare O'Lake
Do you deny that the anecdote is on the teleprompter?
You apparently deny that this is part of Obama's life story, and that it has always been a part of his campaigning. It's fundamental to his personal reasons for understanding the need for reform.
I'd direct you to SFZ's comment above about Palin and the fictional death panels that her not-sick son would have to go before.
| 1260 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:37:31pm |
re: #1252 Gus 802
I'd ask but I don't see the point. I've experimented but it pales in comparison to what my peers did at the time. I can count those experiences on my hands and possibly a few toes to come up with the sum total.
There's a tendency in some circles to believe that if one is in support of drug legalization that they are also drug users. Nothing can be further from the truth as we have seen with Milton Friedman.
There is not correlation between advocating this point and usage.
Well, there is some. An alarming crossover between committed recreational pot users and people expressing a frenetic concern for medicinal pot, and so on.
But your point is taken.
| 1261 |
Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:38:00pm |
If alcohol were still prohibited, you would get the occasional batch of "single malt" with wormwood and high trace amounts of mercury and saltpeter. All in good fun, right?
Turn the BATF into the BATDF (Bureau of Alcohold, Tobacco, Drugs, and Firearms) and at least you'd know you weren't getting PCP in your pot.
| 1262 |
The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:38:05pm |
re: #1252 Gus 802
I'd ask but I don't see the point. I've experimented but it pales in comparison to what my peers did at the time. I can count those experiences on my hands and possibly a few toes to come up with the sum total.
There's a tendency in some circles to believe that if one is in support of drug legalization that they are also drug users. Nothing can be further from the truth as we have seen with Milton Friedman.
There is not correlation between advocating this point and usage.
Personal experiences are MANDATORY and HIGHLY relevant! Except when they're not.
| 1263 |
Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:38:47pm |
re: #1262 iceweasel
Personal experiences are MANDATORY and HIGHLY relevant! Except when they're not.
W
| 1264 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:38:51pm |
re: #1256 Spare O'Lake
I knew you were better. Mushrooms and pepperoni please.
Plain cheese, here. Why don't they have better veggie pizza options in frozen pizza?
| 1265 |
Uninformed Opinion Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:39:16pm |
re: #1260 SanFranciscoZionist
Well, there is some. An alarming crossover between committed recreational pot users and people expressing a frenetic concern for medicinal pot, and so on.
But your point is taken.
In my locale it is the means to an end.
| 1266 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:40:51pm |
re: #1265 Uninformed Opinion
In my locale it is the means to an end.
College-age boy to Dr. House: "I think I have glaucoma."
| 1267 |
Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:42:22pm |
re: #1257 wee fury
The thing is . . . serious drug addiction does not just hurt the addict. It flows down to the family, community, law enforcement, and institutions. The serious addict will do anything for their next fix. And, throughout it all -- they will deny that they have a problem.
So, no, I do not believe illegal drugs should be legalized. It would only compound an already serious problem.
More money is spent on enforcement, the penal system, and the judicial side of things then it is on treatment and prevention. One can accept the continued prohibition but one has to accept that the current archaic system does-not-work and causes other serious problems such as we are seeing in Mexico and Columbia.
| 1268 |
Uninformed Opinion Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:43:04pm |
re: #1266 SanFranciscoZionist
College-age boy to Dr. House: "I think I have glaucoma."
I am looking for the statistics, but the number of applicants who were male 25-40 or some such skews the data...
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Cheechako Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:43:55pm |
Just noticed that some posts have a number for +/- dings while others have a pad-a-lock symbol which indicates "report" when the mouse is scrolled over it.
Did Charles change something?
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:46:56pm |
re: #1269 Cheechako
Just noticed that some posts have a number for +/- dings while others have a pad-a-lock symbol which indicates "report" when the mouse is scrolled over it.
Did Charles change something?
Are the padlocked ones in old threads? After a while you can't ding old posts anymore.
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The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:47:26pm |
re: #1269 Cheechako
Just noticed that some posts have a number for +/- dings while others have a pad-a-lock symbol which indicates "report" when the mouse is scrolled over it.
Did Charles change something?
I'm not seeing what you're seeing. I have had weird glitches on a long thread before though, that go away if I refresh.
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Cheechako Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:49:12pm |
re: #1270 SanFranciscoZionist
No, this thread. And no quote button. I'm using Firefox 3.6 and Vista 64.
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wee fury Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:50:49pm |
re: #1267 Gus 802
More money is spent on enforcement, the penal system, and the judicial side of things then it is on treatment and prevention. One can accept the continued prohibition but one has to accept that the current archaic system does-not-work and causes other serious problems such as we are seeing in Mexico and Columbia.
We are looking at addiction from two differing viewpoints, I think. I don't believe that our current system is archaic. The ultimate responsibility lies on the serious addict to stop.
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Cheechako Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:51:40pm |
Just refreshed and they are still there. Must be those Irish Leprechauns.
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The Left Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:51:45pm |
re: #1272 Cheechako
No, this thread. And no quote button. I'm using Firefox 3.6 and Vista 64.
That's my setup too. It's a problem on our end when threads get long. Refreshing usually works, or logging out, then back in.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:52:37pm |
Well it's been fun, as usual. I'm over & out. Take care everyone.
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:52:44pm |
re: #1253 simoom
It wasn't long ago that I was at my brother's bed side as cancer killed him. Luckly his government healthcare was completely painless when it came to providing excellent home and hospice care. I can't begin to imagine wrangling with some insurance company phone center as I and my family dealt with that emotionally trying time. I was in no shape to effectively do anything.
Speculating that Obama didn't do everything in his power to alleviate his mother's suffering... it makes me shudder with revulsion.
I too have sat and watched 2 immediate family members dying. When issues arose, I advocated on their behalf.
I wish Obama would have referred to his own advocacy on his mother's behalf, if any.
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Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:52:54pm |
June 29, 2004, 12:07 p.m.
Free Weeds - The marijuana debate.
Conservatives pride themselves on resisting change, which is as it should be. But intelligent deference to tradition and stability can evolve into intellectual sloth and moral fanaticism, as when conservatives simply decline to look up from dogma because the effort to raise their heads and reconsider is too great. The laws aren't exactly indefensible, because practically nothing is, and the thunderers who tell us to stay the course can always find one man or woman who, having taken marijuana, moved on to severe mental disorder. But that argument, to quote myself, is on the order of saying that every rapist began by masturbating. General rules based on individual victims are unwise. And although there is a perfectly respectable case against using marijuana, the penalties imposed on those who reject that case, or who give way to weakness of resolution, are very difficult to defend. If all our laws were paradigmatic, imagine what we would do to anyone caught lighting a cigarette, or drinking a beer. Or — exulting in life in the paradigm — committing adultery. Send them all to Guantanamo?
...
We're not going to find someone running for president who advocates reform of those laws. What is required is a genuine republican groundswell. It is happening, but ever so gradually. Two of every five Americans, according to a 2003 Zogby poll cited by Dr. Nadelmann, believe "the government should treat marijuana more or less the same way it treats alcohol: It should regulate it, control it, tax it, and make it illegal only for children."Such reforms would hugely increase the use of the drug? Why? It is de facto legal in the Netherlands, and the percentage of users there is the same as here. The Dutch do odd things, but here they teach us a lesson.
By William F. Buckley
Back when NRO was decent and before the crazy wingnuts took over.
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ryannon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:54:52pm |
re: #1128 Gus 802
I used to drink wine. Now I drink whisky. Anything over 1/2 pint in one evening and I'm a wreck the next day. Which explains my current state.
I started out on burgundy
But soon hit the harder stuff
Everybody said they’d stand behind me
When the game got rough
But the joke was on me
There was nobody even there to call my bluff
I’m going back to New York City
I do believe I’ve had enough
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Cheechako Wed, Mar 17, 2010 10:57:29pm |
re: #1274 Cheechako
Just refreshed and they are still there. Must be those Irish Leprechauns.
Correction: The quote button is under the day of the week.
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ryannon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 11:00:02pm |
re: #1126 Cato the Elder
Bob Dylan, "Moonshiner".
[Video]Anyone tells me after listening to this that he can't sing has to fight me at dawn. Your choice of weapons.
He sure as hell can sing - in fact, he reinvented it.
But come on Cato, "Moonshiner" is far from the best example: one would think he's trying to sound like Perry Como.
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Mar 17, 2010 11:00:31pm |
re: #1259 iceweasel
You apparently deny that this is part of Obama's life story, and that it has always been a part of his campaigning. It's fundamental to his personal reasons for understanding the need for reform.
I'd direct you to SFZ's comment above about Palin and the fictional death panels that her not-sick son would have to go before.
I don't defend that idiotic Palin remark. Surely you and SFZ can do better than using Palin's stupidity to deflect what I consider to be a natural question - why did this poor woman not have an advocate to spare her from this extremely stressful experience?
Pass the red herring, please.
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Cheechako Wed, Mar 17, 2010 11:01:25pm |
re: #1271 iceweasel
I'm not seeing what you're seeing. I have had weird glitches on a long thread before though, that go away if I refresh.
Tried logging out/in - no change.
Movin' upstairs.
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windsagio Wed, Mar 17, 2010 11:03:15pm |
re: #1283 Spare O'Lake
The problem is your loathesome assumption that she didn't.
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ryannon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 11:08:34pm |
re: #1239 SanFranciscoZionist
Is there a mild form of PCP? (Just askin'.)
Yes!
Here, take a hit of this mellow DMT....
/
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Mar 17, 2010 11:09:39pm |
re: #1238 Dark_Falcon
Same thing as BDS and PDS (which is real, even though I despise Sarah Palin). The person targeted is absolute evil. Everything they do is in service to the devil. Very sick.
So it is very sick for me to wonder why she had no advocate and why he allowed her to make those phone calls instead of taking the phone away from her?
I don't think so.
Screw off.
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ryannon Wed, Mar 17, 2010 11:11:11pm |
re: #1286 ryannon
Yes!
Here, take a hit of this mellow DMT...
/
OOOH!
Everything looks like the next thread....
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Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 11:12:48pm |
Just accept the fact that it's difficult to fight the decision made by health insurance corporations since they typically have a massive legal team behind them in order to maximize what little profits they claim to have. They are in the business of making profits and are motivated by greed. G-r-e-e-d.
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Mar 17, 2010 11:12:50pm |
re: #1285 windsagio
The problem is your loathesome assumption that she didn't.
Look...assuming he didn't make the story up, he himself says he sat there
and watched her making these phone calls herself.
Get it?
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Gus Wed, Mar 17, 2010 11:17:29pm |
The true story behind Barack Obama's grandmother.
By Alex Jones.
Read it at Infowars.
/
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Mar 17, 2010 11:23:04pm |
re: #1289 Gus 802
Just accept the fact that it's difficult to fight the decision made by health insurance corporations since they typically have a massive legal team behind them in order to maximize what little profits they claim to have. They are in the business of making profits and are motivated by greed. G-r-e-e-d.
Insurance companies are motivated by the need to make profits within a legislative framework. So what?
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