Pamela Geller Goes Nuts Over ‘Census Stalkers’

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Wingnuts • Thu Mar 18, 2010 at 9:43 am PDT • Views: 451

Newsmax columnist and wingnut blogger Pamela “Shrieking Harpy” Geller is losing her marbles today over being contacted by census workers, calling them “Census Stalkers.”

For the past month I have been called, harassed and visited by a Pamela Childs of the Census Bureau, who was pursuing me for an interview. Knowing my rights under the law, even under the current coup, I did not respond. I filled out my form — that which is required by law — but still received calls, visits, notes. Daily.

At one point, I left a message saying I would not speak to her. Period.

A week passed, and now I am being harassed again by another census goose stepper. They want to interview me poisonally.

It’s pretty clear Obama intends to use the census to fix the next and future elections so as to ensure his Radical Left polices prevail for the long-term.

Morris points out that Obama will:

1. Legalize millions of illegal aliens
2. Use Acorn to “assist” with the next census

Census goons prying into my private life. Welcome to Oganda.

“Stalkers.” “The current coup.” “Census goose stepper.” “Census goons.” “Oganda.”

It’s a cornucopia of crazy.

Also at Geller’s hate hole today, she finds a new reason to bash Obama — the President who is simultaneously a master schemer with a secret plan to turn America into a Nazi-like state, and an ignorant illiterate who doesn’t even know how to hold a pen.

Every time I see BHO sign another bill, I am fascinated at how he holds a pen. He holds a pen like an illiterate. Have you seen it? Like a little kid who just learned how to write and he signs a scribble.

He makes an O instead of an X.

Just sayin.

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1 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:45:19am

Oligarhy!

2 Kragar  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:46:30am

Can't sleep, census takers will eat me.
Can't sleep, census takers will eat me.
Can't sleep, census takers will eat me.
Can't sleep, census takers will eat me.
Can't sleep, census takers will eat me.
Can't sleep, census takers will eat me.

3 jaunte  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:47:09am

Good grief. 'Oganda?' Time for another J.D. Hayworth reaction shot:
[Link: www.flickr.com...]

4 sffilk  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:47:24am

Evidently she hates left-handed people, which means she has trouble with people in their right mind!

5 Summer Seale  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:47:24am

It's true.

It's all true, Pamela.

They're coming for you.

They're coming for you to enslave you in the Uranium mines because you didn't vote for Obama and you don't like him.

They're going to get you Pamela...

Run! Run Pamela! RUN!!! Thems Blackhawks are comin' fer you!!!

6 Dragon_Lady  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:47:31am

Well that's just strange! Is there no end to the weirdness in this world? I didn't like filling it out either but this is ridiculous!

7 webevintage  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:47:55am

poisonally

I know this has to be a typo, but I love image of census worker's stalking the tinfoil!hat people with pens that shoot poison that makes them fill out the long form census truthfully.
Obama's ninja census workers...

8 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:49:03am

When she gets an Ace of ♠ along with the next polite request, we'll know she wasn't just dogwhistling Dixie.

9 MandyManners  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:49:05am

I, too, would be irked at being contacted that much but, I wouldn't go ape-shit over it.

10 Learned Mother of Zion  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:49:28am

We received our census form in the mail this week. Zedushka filled it out. Here are the horrible, privacy invading demands:

1. Name of person living in house
2. Race of person living in house (choose from a menu of assorted Asian ethnicities, Black, or White)
3. Does this person ever live somewhere else? Yes or No. (check off where "somewhere else" might be: college, military, job travel, vacation residence or JAIL)

11 webevintage  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:50:09am

re: #6 Dragon_Lady

Well that's just strange! Is there no end to the weirdness in this world? I didn't like filling it out either but this is ridiculous!

I love filling out surveys and was pretty disappointed we did not get one of the really intrusive ones.
pout

12 Learned Mother of Zion  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:50:48am

re: #9 MandyManners

I, too, would be irked at being contacted that much but, I wouldn't go ape-shit over it.

If she filled out her form correctly instead of drunken scribbles all over it, maybe the $18/hr census workers would not have to earn their pay.

13 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:50:54am

re: #10 Alouette

We received our census form in the mail this week. Zedushka filled it out. Here are the horrible, privacy invading demands:

1. Name of person living in house
2. Race of person living in house (choose from a menu of assorted Asian ethnicities, Black, or White)
3. Does this person ever live somewhere else? Yes or No. (check off where "somewhere else" might be: college, military, job travel, vacation residence or JAIL)

Yeah, my census form was disappointingly boring.
:(

14 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:51:20am
They want to interview me poisonally.

is there an antidote to that?

15 MandyManners  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:51:25am

re: #10 Alouette

We received our census form in the mail this week. Zedushka filled it out. Here are the horrible, privacy invading demands:

1. Name of person living in house
2. Race of person living in house (choose from a menu of assorted Asian ethnicities, Black, or White)
3. Does this person ever live somewhere else? Yes or No. (check off where "somewhere else" might be: college, military, job travel, vacation residence or JAIL)

No option for "alternate reality"?

16 Kragar  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:51:41am

They're coming to take her away haha
They're coming to take her away hehe
To the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time

17 MandyManners  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:52:22am

re: #12 Alouette

If she filled out her form correctly instead of drunken scribbles all over it, maybe the $18/hr census workers would not have to earn their pay.

I wonder if Randi Rhodes has returned hers yet.

18 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:52:43am

re: #10 Alouette

We received our census form in the mail this week. Zedushka filled it out. Here are the horrible, privacy invading demands:

1. Name of person living in house
2. Race of person living in house (choose from a menu of assorted Asian ethnicities, Black, or White)
3. Does this person ever live somewhere else? Yes or No. (check off where "somewhere else" might be: college, military, job travel, vacation residence or JAIL)

Disclaimer... I have no problem with ANY of the census forms.

But, some people may have problems with the LONG FORM, which asks many more questions. And the new arrangement that the census agency has is this... everyone gets the short form, and monthly, 1 out of 5 household will get a long form. This is a on going program, month after month.

So, there are TWO forms, and one of them DO HAVE the questions that some people believe are a intrusion of privacy.

Me, I don't care.

19 MandyManners  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:53:09am

re: #14 _RememberTonyC

is there an antidote to that?

I'm still scratching my head over that.

20 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:53:19am

re: #10 Alouette

We received our census form in the mail this week. Zedushka filled it out. Here are the horrible, privacy invading demands:

1. Name of person living in house
2. Race of person living in house (choose from a menu of assorted Asian ethnicities, Black, or White)
3. Does this person ever live somewhere else? Yes or No. (check off where "somewhere else" might be: college, military, job travel, vacation residence or JAIL)

I filled out my form and said it's just me and 50 Polynesian women living here. I man can dream, can't he?

21 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:53:25am

I wouldn't believe her claims about how many times they've contacted her. The harpy lies like a rug.

22 Dragon_Lady  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:53:34am

re: #11 webevintage

I love filling out surveys and was pretty disappointed we did not get one of the really intrusive ones.
pout

Um, was that meant to be sarcastic? I can't tell.

23 lawhawk  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:53:39am

It's a cavalcade of crazy. Cornucopia doesn't quite match the quantity of crazy here because the crazy just keeps on coming.

24 Learned Mother of Zion  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:54:21am

re: #21 Charles

I wouldn't believe her claims about how many times they've contacted her. The harpy lies like a rug.

Maybe they contacted her once and in her drunken delirium she keeps reliving that moment over and over and over again.

25 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:54:31am

re: #23 lawhawk

It's a cavalcade of crazy. Cornucopia doesn't quite match the quantity of crazy here because the crazy just keeps on coming.


Perpetual Crazy Machine!

26 darthstar  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:54:51am

How did they manage to fit so much stupid into such a small person?

27 jaunte  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:55:10am

It takes a lot of real experiences or creative invention to be a continually outraged columnist. The crazy isn't enough to paper over the holes.

28 cliffster  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:55:18am

Wow, I wonder what she does when she gets a jury summons

29 lawhawk  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:55:21am

re: #21 Charles

We've gotten all of two items from the Census Bureau - a letter saying that the form was coming, and the census form itself. That's it here. No worker coming around to tally up the information. Nothing else. But that's just my corner of the NYC metro area. Your mileage may differ...

30 Summer Seale  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:55:25am

Here's an idea:

Somebody should call the census bureau and demand to speak to a manager there. Once on the phone with a higher up, they should pretend to be "in on it" and mention that Pamela Geller isn't "playing ball" with the interviews, and that it's time to, *wink wink*, drag her off with the Men in Black squad.

Then that said person should post the recording on the internet, complete with the raucous, totally unbelieving, laughter which follows the end of that short conversation, finalized with a "Yeah, right buddy. *click*" part at the end.

Not that it would convince the conspiracy nuts like Geller that nothing sordid is going on, but it would be nice for them to know how incredibly unknown and unimportant they are to the Government as a whole.

31 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:55:46am

re: #26 darthstar

How did they manage to fit so much stupid into such a small person?

It's all about the density of teh crazee.
;)

32 lawhawk  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:55:47am

re: #25 Varek Raith

That's got band name written all over it.

33 webevintage  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:55:52am

re: #22 Dragon_Lady

Um, was that meant to be sarcastic? I can't tell.

No, I really was disappointed we did not get the long form.
Not being sarcastic or snarky, just making a personal observation about my odd love of filling out surveys and such.
As it is the one we did get is so boring it is still sitting on the kitchen table.

34 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:55:54am

re: #24 Alouette

Maybe they contacted her once and in her drunken delirium she keeps reliving that moment over and over and over again.

I wish we would stop assuming that she is drunk all the time. How do we know that? There are many other possible reasons for her behavior, like drugs or mental illness.

I'll drink to that.

35 Dragon_Lady  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:56:08am

re: #29 lawhawk

We've gotten all of two items from the Census Bureau - a letter saying that the form was coming, and the census form itself. That's it here. No worker coming around to tally up the information. Nothing else. But that's just my corner of the NYC metro area. Your mileage may differ...

We got the same, two letters.

36 Learned Mother of Zion  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:56:40am

re: #26 darthstar

How did they manage to fit so much stupid into such a small person?

In the breast implants. It's an eeville plot!

37 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:57:00am

He's a lefty! Of course he can't hold a pen right.

38 Learned Mother of Zion  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:57:30am

re: #33 webevintage

No, I really was disappointed we did not get the long form.
Not being sarcastic or snarky, just making a personal observation about my odd love of filling out surveys and such.
As it is the one we did get is so boring it is still sitting on the kitchen table.

I hate filling out forms. Can I send you all my forms to fill out?

39 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:57:36am

re: #29 lawhawk

We've gotten all of two items from the Census Bureau - a letter saying that the form was coming, and the census form itself. That's it here. No worker coming around to tally up the information. Nothing else. But that's just my corner of the NYC metro area. Your mileage may differ...

I received the census form in the mail AND a census worker hand delivered a copy to my house. Plus, I received the notice in the mail that I should watch out for the form.

It was the short form in both cases, but it was interesting that they mailed on AND hand delivered one.

40 Dragon_Lady  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:57:51am

re: #33 webevintage

No, I really was disappointed we did not get the long form.
Not being sarcastic or snarky, just making a personal observation about my odd love of filling out surveys and such.
As it is the one we did get is so boring it is still sitting on the kitchen table.

Oh. I like snarkiness and sarcasm, but when it comes to the survey boring suits me just fine. :-)

41 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:57:54am

re: #35 Dragon_Lady

We got the same, two letters.

I got 3 but one was some political fundraising thing intended to look like a census form.

42 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:58:27am

re: #39 Walter L. Newton

I received the census form in the mail AND a census worker hand delivered a copy to my house. Plus, I received the notice in the mail that I should watch out for the form.

It was the short form in both cases, but it was interesting that they mailed on AND hand delivered one.

Department of Redundancy Department at its finest!

43 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:58:30am
They want to interview me poisonally.

The correct response to that is "soitenly!"

44 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:58:33am

re: #18 Walter L. Newton

Disclaimer... I have no problem with ANY of the census forms.

But, some people may have problems with the LONG FORM, which asks many more questions. And the new arrangement that the census agency has is this... everyone gets the short form, and monthly, 1 out of 5 household will get a long form. This is a on going program, month after month.

So, there are TWO forms, and one of them DO HAVE the questions that some people believe are a intrusion of privacy.

Me, I don't care.

Let me understand: the first month, they send out long forms to 1/5 of all households. The second, they send it to another 1/5? So after five months everyone will get the long form?

Or do they just keep sending it to the first fifth until they fill it out?

And when they come to interview you, do you have to let them in your home, or can you do the interview in the hallway or out in the garden?

Just curious.

45 webevintage  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:58:36am

re: #35 Dragon_Lady

We got the same, two letters.

We did have a worker stop by a few months ago to let us know that we would be getting a form to fill out.
He was very nice, my dogs wanted to eat him.
Maybe this is considered a crazy part of the country (semi rural AR) that has a low return rate?

46 Dragon_Lady  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:58:57am

re: #41 Killgore Trout

I got 3 but one was some political fundraising thing intended to look like a census form.

Yeah it figures. Sneaky fundraisers!

47 darthstar  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:58:58am

re: #37 Who Watches the Watchmen?

He's a lefty! Of course he can't hold a pen right.

Exactly what I was going to say. Watching lefties write has always been something that intrigued me...as they tend to hook their wrists.

48 The Curmudgeon  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:59:28am

No problems here. I filled it out and added the secret ACORN symbol. I'm gonna be okay.

49 cliffster  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:59:37am
For the past month I have been called, harassed and visited by a Pamela Childs of the Census Bureau, who was pursuing me for an interview. Knowing my rights under the law, even under the current coup, I did not respond. I filled out my form — that which is required by law — but still received calls, visits, notes. Daily.

Uh, that's your parole office. You should probably return her calls.

50 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 9:59:42am

My personal theory - they're using her to get to the elusive Hugh Fitzgerald.

51 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:00:04am

re: #44 Cato the Elder

Let me understand: the first month, they send out long forms to 1/5 of all households. The second, they send it to another 1/5? So after five months everyone will get the long form?

Or do they just keep sending it to the first fifth until they fill it out?

And when they come to interview you, do you have to let them in your home, or can you do the interview in the hallway or out in the garden?

Just curious.

I don't know all the rules, that is what I read in an article somewhere. But the monthly long form program is on going. There was no indication that it stops.

52 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:00:15am

re: #41 Killgore Trout

I got 3 but one was some political fundraising thing intended to look like a census form.

Ah yes, the RNC census. On one hand they demonize the census, on the other they solicit using the same format. Gotta engage the brain to get past it.

53 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:00:18am

re: #50 Cato the Elder

He changed his last name to Jass.

54 Decider  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:00:18am

Obama holds a pen like a Marxist. That is the way you spot a Socialist. Just make them write something.

55 MandyManners  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:00:32am

re: #39 Walter L. Newton

I received the census form in the mail AND a census worker hand delivered a copy to my house. Plus, I received the notice in the mail that I should watch out for the form.

It was the short form in both cases, but it was interesting that they mailed on AND hand delivered one.

Yeah, that's a bit over the top.

56 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:01:01am

I was a field enumerator in a census years back. Had to go out into the countryside and interview people who hadn't sent their forms in. Most people co-operated, only got one or two "get off my porch" reactions.

And I may say, having a defiant attitude towards government is on balance a good thing, uniquely American, and helps keep us free. I remember reading about a prank that someone played in Germany, years ago. They went to a couple of phone booths, labeled them with signs that read "Damen" and "Herren", and sat back. Sure enough, the Germans queued up by sex to use the phone booths.

57 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:01:05am

re: #19 MandyManners

I'm still scratching my head over that.

maybe she's from Brooklyn ... they pronounce "person" as "poisson." Yeah ... that's it ... not.

58 Dragon_Lady  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:01:30am

re: #26 darthstar

How did they manage to fit so much stupid into such a small person?

Thats what happens when you're born in the shallow end of the gene pool.

59 Conservative Moonbat  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:01:40am

To reuse a pun:

She's clearly taken leave of her census!

I'm off in search of more coffee.

60 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:01:49am

Well... I don't think that there is going to be any census people stopping by our house tomorrow...

Weather...

Colorado Weather Advisories for 18 March 6:50 am MDT

Synopsis – A low pressure system diving south out of Canada will bring a winter storm to the region from central Wyoming, all of Colorado and into northeastern New Mexico with heavy snow at times and gusty winds creating near blizzard conditions in some areas. The heavy snow will start late tonight and begin diminishing Friday night from north to south. Expect upwards of 6 to 12 inches in the plains and Denver metro while the mountains could see upwards of 8 to 16 inches.

The main impact will be hazardous / dangerous travel conditions on the roads and possibly flight delays out of Denver International (DIA) on Friday. Expect the usual delays and possibly closures along I-25 from Wyoming to New Mexico and I-70 west of Denver and over Vail Pass. Friday may be a good day to work from home.

61 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:02:21am

re: #19 MandyManners

I'm still scratching my head over that.

I think she was channeling Curly for a moment.

62 webevintage  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:02:36am

Is Geller really this nutty or is this some kind of an act to drive traffic to her site?

63 Millicent Islam  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:02:39am

Oh Pammy. The shrieking harpy never disappoints.

A little something for Pammy, from Jimmah-Ice productions...

64 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:02:40am

re: #47 darthstar

Exactly what I was going to say. Watching lefties write has always been something that intrigued me...as they tend to hook their wrists.


Flash back to 4th grade: young Barry Obama was the kid who always had ink on the side of his hand.

65 MandyManners  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:02:43am

re: #57 _RememberTonyC

maybe she's from Brooklyn ... they pronounce "person" as "poisson." Yeah ... that's it ... not.

Doesn't she proofread?

66 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:03:24am

re: #56 The Sanity Inspector

I haven't forgotten your photo. I will slip out in a few minutes and post it on my server sometime today and post a link on LGF so you can see.

Got to do it today, probably won't be able to get out of the driveway tomorrow... massive quick storm barreling in here tomorrow.

67 MandyManners  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:03:31am

re: #61 The Sanity Inspector

I think she was channeling Curly for a moment.

Nyuk. Nyuk.

68 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:03:32am

re: #62 webevintage

Is Geller really this nutty or is this some kind of an act to drive traffic to her site?

Yes, and yes.

69 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:04:21am

re: #63 iceweasel

That's the look you see just before all those happy hour cocktails come back up.

70 darthstar  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:04:25am

re: #62 webevintage

Is Geller really this nutty or is this some kind of an act to drive traffic to her site?

Both. She's probably hoping for a commentator job at Fox or CNN. Hey, being a total fucking idiot worked for Erick Erecksion.

71 Lidane  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:04:27am

re: #13 Varek Raith

Yeah, my census form was disappointingly boring.
:(

I'm disappointed too. I wanted the census form that folks like the shrieking harpy are always going on about, where the Census Bureau goes around forcing people to sign an Obama loyalty pledge and then tattooing serial numbers on the inside of their arms and bar codes on their necks.

Instead, I got the boring, straightforward one that I finished in less than 10 minutes and sent off yesterday. How anti-climactic. :(

72 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:04:28am

re: #65 MandyManners

Doesn't she proofread?

the problem is that she DOES proofread. she just likes to invent new words like "nirth," which I think means "no birth." Or something ...

73 Dragon_Lady  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:05:12am

re: #63 iceweasel

Oh Pammy. The shrieking harpy never disappoints.

A little something for Pammy, from Jimmah-Ice productions...

Oh, very funny Ice! Upding for the witty comeback!

74 windsword  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:05:14am

Using Geller's logic on wiretapping, why would someone with nothing to hide care if someone pried into their personal life? The idea that the Obama administration is using the census to spy on Geller would seem to suggest that there's something about her she's hiding.

Hmmm...

75 webevintage  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:05:18am

Damn, used up my "wasting time on the internet" allotment of time for the morning.
Gotta go do some photography so I can earn the money.
BBL

76 dean_k  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:05:45am

I hold a pen the same way. You get that way by learning to write before you're shown how to do it properly, and it's hard to correct.

77 Millicent Islam  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:05:48am

re: #69 Who Watches the Watchmen?

That's the look you see just before all those happy hour cocktails come back up.

In Pammy's case it's the unhappy hour, and it never ends.

78 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:05:53am

re: #39 Walter L. Newton

I received the census form in the mail AND a census worker hand delivered a copy to my house. Plus, I received the notice in the mail that I should watch out for the form.

It was the short form in both cases, but it was interesting that they mailed on AND hand delivered one.

Lots of seasonal labor, and lots of overlapping lists being used.

79 MandyManners  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:06:04am

re: #72 _RememberTonyC

the problem is that she DOES proofread. she just likes to invent new words like "nirth," which I think means "no birth." Or something ...

Wasn't there a "k" in her rendition of "certificate"?

80 Millicent Islam  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:06:43am

re: #73 Dragon_Lady

Oh, very funny Ice! Upding for the witty comeback!

Heh. Cheers DL. Hope you and RWC are well today!

Yeah, Jimmah and I are doing a little series of wingnut demotivational posters...

81 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:06:50am

re: #79 MandyManners

Wasn't there a "k" in her rendition of "certificate"?

Her posts could make an editor rich. Rich, I tells ya!

82 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:07:17am

re: #56 The Sanity Inspector

I was a field enumerator in a census years back. Had to go out into the countryside and interview people who hadn't sent their forms in. Most people co-operated, only got one or two "get off my porch" reactions.

And I may say, having a defiant attitude towards government is on balance a good thing, uniquely American, and helps keep us free. I remember reading about a prank that someone played in Germany, years ago. They went to a couple of phone booths, labeled them with signs that read "Damen" and "Herren", and sat back. Sure enough, the Germans queued up by sex to use the phone booths.

Actually, there was a huge anti-census movement in Germany last time they did a full one, which was in 1987.

Wiki:

In the 1980s, attempts at introducing a census in West Germany sparked strong popular resentment since some felt that the questions to be asked were quite personal. Comparisons to Orwell's 1984 were drawn. Some campaigned for a boycott, or for intentional false statements. The Constitutional Court stopped the census in 1980 and 1983, and required a revision of the process. The modified census was eventually held in 1987.

The anti-government paranoia was particularly strong on the left.

I was there, I got the form, and I put "Jewish" for religion so Germany's tiny Jewish minority would get more money.

83 What, me worry?  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:07:41am

re: #74 windsword

Using Geller's logic on wiretapping, why would someone with nothing to hide care if someone pried into their personal life? The idea that the Obama administration is using the census to spy on Geller would seem to suggest that there's something about her she's hiding.

Hmmm...

Well that's a bit silly. Just because I have nothing to hide doesn't mean I want the government prying into my personal life. One has nothing to do with the other. Right to privacy is the right to my privacy for any reason or no reason.

Having said that, Pam Geller is paranoid lunatic.

84 abbyadams  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:08:11am

re: #44 Cato the Elder

Repeat from the last thread, though Walter doesn't believe me. Hence, I am using another source besides Wikipedia.

In every decennial census since 1940, two questionnaires have been used to collect information: a "short form" with only basic questions such as age, sex, race, and Hispanic origin; and a "long form" with the basic short-form questions plus about 50 additional questions on socioeconomic and housing characteristics. Only a subset of households received the long-form questionnaire—about one in every six in 2000. However, for the first time since 1940, the 2010 Census will be a short-form-only census. This is because the decennial long form has been replaced by the American Community Survey (ACS). The ACS is a nationwide, continuous survey designed to provide reliable and timely demographic, housing, social, and economic data every year. The ACS will replace the long form in 2010 and thereafter by collecting long-form-type information throughout the decade rather than only once every 10 years.


Link

85 What, me worry?  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:08:23am

re: #76 dean_k

I hold a pen the same way. You get that way by learning to write before you're shown how to do it properly, and it's hard to correct.

I have many lefties in my family and every one of them hold a pen that way.

86 Aye Pod  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:08:30am
Every time I see BHO sign another bill, I am fascinated at how he holds a pen. He holds a pen like an illiterate. Have you seen it? Like a little kid who just learned how to write and he signs a scribble.

Hello ...Mandy?

87 darthstar  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:08:59am
88 abbyadams  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:09:53am

re: #84 abbyadams

The long form has been replaced by another survey, the ACS.

89 MandyManners  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:10:00am

re: #81 Varek Raith

Her posts could make an editor rich. Rich, I tells ya!

Or cross-eyed.

90 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:11:13am

Her "current coup" remark makes her sound like the people who insist that Bush stole both elections.

91 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:11:15am

re: #84 abbyadams

Oh my god, permanent socialism!

What possible reason could the government have for wanting accurate demographic data?

Clearly they're trying for social justice, which Jesus hated!

92 Learned Mother of Zion  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:11:15am

All this talk about Pamela reminds me that I have to buy wine for Passover.

93 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:11:38am

re: #64 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Flash back to 4th grade: young Barry Obama was the kid who always had ink on the side of his hand.

Yeah, me too. It's a pain.

94 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:11:41am

re: #84 abbyadams

Repeat from the last thread, though Walter doesn't believe me. Hence, I am using another source besides Wikipedia.

Link

And what is it that I don't believe? Your implication was that there was no longer a detailed long form. Just because the long form has been moved and renamed under another program, another program MAINTAINED by the census agency, doesn't change the fact that there will still be long form information collected, in some why, some how, from most people as the program rotates through households. That was my only point, you're splitting hairs and being pedantic.

And I don't care if there was a hundred forms, it's doesn't bother me.

95 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:12:08am

re: #92 Alouette

All this talk about Pamela reminds me that I have to buy wine for Passover.

I'm pretty sure she uses grape-flavored vodka.

96 abbyadams  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:12:48am

re: #91 Obdicut

I just think it's funny that they actually got rid of the more intrusive questions for the first time this year, and the screaming about government into our private lives is louder this time than ever.

97 Aye Pod  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:12:51am
Every time I see BHO sign another bill, I am fascinated at how he holds a pen.

Pamela Geller has been beyond parody for a long time now but still, this one really takes the biscuit.

98 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:12:55am

re: #62 webevintage

Is Geller really this nutty or is this some kind of an act to drive traffic to her site?

God knows. Naomi Wolf got rolling toward the end of Bush's second term with the government intercepting her letters from her kids at camp.

Some people really thrive on this sort of thing.

99 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:13:07am

re: #87 darthstar

She looks crazed...and where'd she get that shirt?

That was from way before the cover slipped.

100 windsword  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:13:15am

re: #83 marjoriemoon

Well that's a bit silly. Just because I have nothing to hide doesn't mean I want the government prying into my personal life. One has nothing to do with the other. Right to privacy is the right to my privacy for any reason or no reason.

Well, yeah. I know that. But in the past she's said the only reason someone would be against warrantless wiretapping was if they had something to hide. I'm just applying her own logic.

101 darthstar  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:13:39am

re: #99 CyanSnowHawk

That was from way before the cover slipped.

I think Charles should use it every time he posts about her though...

102 Dragon_Lady  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:13:47am

re: #80 iceweasel

Heh. Cheers DL. Hope you and RWC are well today!

Yeah, Jimmah and I are doing a little series of wingnut demotivational posters...

I'm still playing with the flu, haven't had a full meal in 4 days. Yogurt is even giving my poor tummy fits.

103 teleskiguy  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:14:10am

Geller is dangerous.

104 abbyadams  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:14:37am

re: #94 Walter L. Newton

I have seen no such indication that the new form will be mandatory to complete, and so, you can parse my response any way you like, but it's not the same thing. If you want to be contradictory, that's okay by me, but I am trying to clarify the situation.

If it turns out to be mandatory to complete, like the census, I will say so.

105 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:15:02am

re: #71 Lidane

I'm disappointed too. I wanted the census form that folks like the shrieking harpy are always going on about, where the Census Bureau goes around forcing people to sign an Obama loyalty pledge and then tattooing serial numbers on the inside of their arms and bar codes on their necks.

Instead, I got the boring, straightforward one that I finished in less than 10 minutes and sent off yesterday. How anti-climactic. :(

Our biggest problems were:

a. My mother's concern about the date discrepancy.
b. My confusion about what a Latino person of indigenous ancestry was supposed to put down for 'race'.
and c. My mother's concern that my husband should put down his Indian ancestry so descendents would know they were part Cherokee and Creek if they used the census for genealogical research.

106 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:16:35am

re: #101 darthstar

I think Charles should use it every time he posts about her though...

I'd rather he didn't. She's pretty, but in a psycho ex-girlfriend sort of way.

107 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:16:39am

re: #79 MandyManners

Wasn't there a "k" in her rendition of "certificate"?

I believe so ... maybe she learned THAT from reverend wright ... he spelled America with three "k's" if I recall correctly.

108 What, me worry?  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:16:40am

re: #100 windsword

Well, yeah. I know that. But in the past she's said the only reason someone would be against warrantless wiretapping was if they had something to hide. I'm just applying her own logic.

Ah ok. I would expect such a thing coming from her actually.

109 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:16:48am

re: #104 abbyadams

I have seen no such indication that the new form will be mandatory to complete, and so, you can parse my response any way you like, but it's not the same thing. If you want to be contradictory, that's okay by me, but I am trying to clarify the situation.

If it turns out to be mandatory to complete, like the census, I will say so.

Mail, telephone, and personal-visit interviews for the 50 states, the District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico. About half the responses are obtained by mail. The ACS is a mandatory survey.

[Link: www.census.gov...]

110 garhighway  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:17:55am

re: #18 Walter L. Newton

Disclaimer... I have no problem with ANY of the census forms.

But, some people may have problems with the LONG FORM, which asks many more questions. And the new arrangement that the census agency has is this... everyone gets the short form, and monthly, 1 out of 5 household will get a long form. This is a on going program, month after month.

So, there are TWO forms, and one of them DO HAVE the questions that some people believe are a intrusion of privacy.

Me, I don't care.

If monthly, 1 our of 5 households gets a long form, by month 5 everyone would have gotten one?

Or is the monthly sample size very, very small?

Understand, I am not trying to be a wise guy here, I am trying to understand the size of the monthly survey program as compared to the every-ten-years program.

111 What, me worry?  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:18:09am

re: #103 teleskiguy

Geller is dangerous.

How so? She has no traffic, few posters. Most of her articles have 0 comments. She's a tiny, little fish in a great big pond. Maybe not so big. She is entertaining from time to time, however.

112 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:18:30am

re: #110 garhighway

If monthly, 1 our of 5 households gets a long form, by month 5 everyone would have gotten one?

Or is the monthly sample size very, very small?

Understand, I am not trying to be a wise guy here, I am trying to understand the size of the monthly survey program as compared to the every-ten-years program.

I don't know all the answer, the census folk do...

[Link: www.census.gov...]

113 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:18:35am

If a bucket of water was dumped on her and then she lobbed a scimitar at someone so that they could declare themselves Emperor would that make her happy?

114 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:18:38am

re: #100 windsword

Well, yeah. I know that. But in the past she's said the only reason someone would be against warrantless wiretapping was if they had something to hide. I'm just applying her own logic.

It's weird how privacy came back into vogue when we got a new president...in some circles.

This is the thing that drives me nuts. It does not matter if you like the current people in office. We have LAWS and stuff so that your rights are protected whether the people in office agree with you or not. You cannot just say wiretapping is fine one week, and evil the next.

What part of this is so hard to understand?

115 Dragon_Lady  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:18:56am

re: #80 iceweasel

Yeah, Jimmah and I are doing a little series of wingnut demotivational posters...

What kind of posters? Sorry if I'm a bit slow today...

116 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:19:18am

re: #105 SanFranciscoZionist

Our biggest problems were:

a. My mother's concern about the date discrepancy.
b. My confusion about what a Latino person of indigenous ancestry was supposed to put down for 'race'.
and c. My mother's concern that my husband should put down his Indian ancestry so descendents would know they were part Cherokee and Creek if they used the census for genealogical research.

He insisted on being white, so that is what I put down.

117 What, me worry?  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:20:01am

re: #102 Dragon_Lady

I'm still playing with the flu, haven't had a full meal in 4 days. Yogurt is even giving my poor tummy fits.

Ack. Been there done that! Sorry to say and still in recovery. Plain rice, maybe a little butter and toast is good. A little fruit if you can manage it. Watermelon is easy.

118 garhighway  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:20:42am

re: #114 SanFranciscoZionist

It's weird how privacy came back into vogue when we got a new president...in some circles.

This is the thing that drives me nuts. It does not matter if you like the current people in office. We have LAWS and stuff so that your rights are protected whether the people in office agree with you or not. You cannot just say wiretapping is fine one week, and evil the next.

What part of this is so hard to understand?

Laws are the product of the government. The government is evil. Therefore laws are evil and cannot be counted on to protect you.

Or something like that. At least that how I imagine they think on their planet.

119 right_wing2  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:20:58am

The census bureau needs to stop asking any questions other than how many people are in the household.

Name. Age/date of birth. Whether the house is owned. Race. ALL questions which should be eliminated, and should have been taken off decades ago.

I hope someone is very good at reading tiny print for the questions that don't relate to the number of people when they get my form.

120 Millicent Islam  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:21:00am

re: #111 marjoriemoon

How so? She has no traffic, few posters. Most of her articles have 0 comments. She's a tiny, little fish in a great big pond. Maybe not so big. She is entertaining from time to time, however.

She's constantly mentioned by people who ought to know better. She has TV appearances, like the one Charles posted a few weeks ago (Joy Behar show, I think?). Andy McCarthy at NRO has linked her in his own nirther fantasies. The NYT mentions her. She's interviewed John Bolton a number of times.

Anyone looking at her blog should know right away that she's a complete wacko, but for some mystifying reason she does have attention.

121 garhighway  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:21:32am

re: #119 right_wing2

The census bureau needs to stop asking any questions other than how many people are in the household.

Name. Age/date of birth. Whether the house is owned. Race. ALL questions which should be eliminated, and should have been taken off decades ago.

I hope someone is very good at reading tiny print for the questions that don't relate to the number of people when they get my form.

Because...?

122 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:21:34am

re: #119 right_wing2

Why? Pure assertion really doesn't do much for me.

123 Dragon_Lady  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:21:52am

re: #117 marjoriemoon

Ack. Been there done that! Sorry to say and still in recovery. Plain rice, maybe a little butter and toast is good. A little fruit if you can manage it. Watermelon is easy.

Keeping it down isn't the prob, the cramps and the, um, other problem that comes with are. My sinuses aren't exactly happy either so the meds are taking their toll too...

124 teleskiguy  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:22:17am

re: #111 marjoriemoon

Maybe so. But those very few people that take her seriously are batshit crazy and they're probably armed to the teeth. Good thing we have LGF to keep an eye on this psycho.

125 Lidane  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:22:24am

re: #105 SanFranciscoZionist

Ah. Well, in my house there are only two people. I'm Mexican-American and my boyfriend is about as white as it gets, since he's half-German, half-Polish. It was short and sweet and to the point for us. Heh.

126 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:23:08am

re: #119 right_wing2

The census bureau needs to stop asking any questions other than how many people are in the household.

Name. Age/date of birth. Whether the house is owned. Race. ALL questions which should be eliminated, and should have been taken off decades ago.

I hope someone is very good at reading tiny print for the questions that don't relate to the number of people when they get my form.

Why? Serious question here.

127 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:23:59am

re: #104 abbyadams

I have seen no such indication that the new form will be mandatory to complete, and so, you can parse my response any way you like, but it's not the same thing. If you want to be contradictory, that's okay by me, but I am trying to clarify the situation.

If it turns out to be mandatory to complete, like the census, I will say so.

Still waiting...

Got anything to say, or are you going to stalk this topic with me onto another thread today?

"Mail, telephone, and personal-visit interviews for the 50 states, the District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico. About half the responses are obtained by mail. The ACS is a mandatory survey."

[Link: www.census.gov...]

128 Temporarily Embarrassed Millionaire  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:24:06am

A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti.

129 right_wing2  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:24:20am

re: #121 garhighway

re: #122 Obdicut


The Constitutional purpose of the census is to determine the number of seats in the House of Representatives for each district. Anything beyond that serves no Constitutional function.

130 Dragon_Lady  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:24:24am

re: #119 right_wing2

The census bureau needs to stop asking any questions other than how many people are in the household.

Name. Age/date of birth. Whether the house is owned. Race. ALL questions which should be eliminated, and should have been taken off decades ago.

I hope someone is very good at reading tiny print for the questions that don't relate to the number of people when they get my form.

You know, I just saw a commercial for the census, and they only mention the need to know how many people are in the household. Not one word of why they need the race of the occupants at all! Now why would they do that? I shouldn't have answered those questions...

131 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:26:01am

re: #129 right_wing2

re: #122 Obdicut


The Constitutional purpose of the census is to determine the number of seats in the House of Representatives for each district. Anything beyond that serves no Constitutional function.

OK, but what is your objection to using the occasion to get further demographic information?

132 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:26:15am

re: #93 SanFranciscoZionist

Flash back to 4th grade: young Barry Obama was the kid who always had ink on the side of his hand.

Yeah, me too. It's a pain.

The high point of being a righty who doesn't curl their wrist to handwrite is the joy of the fountain pen. Nothing writes more uniquely and smoothly...and nothing will make a bigger mess of your hand if you drag it...

133 What, me worry?  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:28:00am

re: #114 SanFranciscoZionist

It's weird how privacy came back into vogue when we got a new president...in some circles.

This is the thing that drives me nuts. It does not matter if you like the current people in office. We have LAWS and stuff so that your rights are protected whether the people in office agree with you or not. You cannot just say wiretapping is fine one week, and evil the next.

What part of this is so hard to understand?

Come now! It's ok when the Republicans want to wiretap ya without your knowledge, but not ok when the Democrats want to... send out a census, which is somehow a part of the commie socialist agenda because NO Republican president ever did such a thing!!

Hell if you're going to write history to your own choosing then go all out, I say.

134 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:28:02am

re: #129 right_wing2

Oo-kay. So the founding fathers fucked it up immediately? This was the original census:

cause the number of the inhabitants within their respective districts to be taken; omitting in such enumeration Indians not taxed, and distinguishing free persons, including those bound to service for a term of years, from all others; distinguishing also the sexes and colours of free persons, and the free males of sixteen years and upwards from those under that age.

That was 1790.

[Link: www.usconstitution.net...]

135 right_wing2  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:28:47am

re: #131 SanFranciscoZionist

Why are demographics the business of ANYBODY at the federal, state or local level? Government, as a representative of ALL Americans, needs to be completely color blind.

136 Sinistershade  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:29:49am

re: #54 Decider

Obama holds a pen like a Marxist. That is the way you spot a Socialist. Just make them write something.


That's what the loyalty oaths of the '50s were about. They didn't care whether you signed; they just wanted to see how you held the pen.

137 Aye Pod  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:30:00am

re: #115 Dragon_Lady

Yeah, Jimmah and I are doing a little series of wingnut demotivational posters...


What kind of posters? Sorry if I'm a bit slow today...

It's a style of poster - with a picture and a message - originally done as the antithesis of the motivational posters you often see in offices etc - like the photo of the kitty with the caption "Hang in There!". Example :

[Link: despair.com...]

They are often designed just to rip on people as well of course, like the ones we are doing:)

138 right_wing2  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:30:02am

re: #134 Obdicut

It was a bad idea 200+ years ago, it's a worse idea now.

139 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:30:02am

re: #82 Cato the Elder

If Germany hasn't done a full census since 1987, can you imagine how out-of-date their statistical base is?

Of course, Pammy would have an explanation for that. The Euros are delaying their censi to hide just how big the Moooslim population has grown. There won't be another Euro-census until it's tooo laaate.

140 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:30:10am

I got the short form this week. Filled out my part and left it in my housemate's mailbox with a note asking her to fill out the "Person 2" information. I could have done that, but I don't know her date of birth.

The only dishonest thing was use the name "Rusty Shackleford" on it.

141 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:30:14am

re: #135 right_wing2

Demographic information is not a threat to freedom. It's information. It can be used for ill or for good.

And as I pointed out, the founding fathers think that you're wrong.

142 Lidane  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:30:46am

re: #130 Dragon_Lady

You know, I just saw a commercial for the census, and they only mention the need to know how many people are in the household. Not one word of why they need the race of the occupants at all! Now why would they do that? I shouldn't have answered those questions...

Questions about race are purely demographic, I think.

Personally, I'm not bothered by someone asking what race I am. In fact, most of the time folks are surprised when I say I'm Latina, since they tend to assume I'm Italian, or even a fair-skinned Greek. I think the whole thing is pretty amusing, really.

143 shiplord kirel  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:30:47am

In a possibly related development in the fever swamp, certain bloggers are actually concerned over what they see as a "kill over capture" approach to terrorists by the Obama administration:
Waterboarding is Cruel and Inhumane; let’s vaporize them instead!

President Obama may have felt squeamish about the belly slap and facial holds implemented by the CIA on 30% of the 100 or so graduates of the CIA program (that gave us upward of 60% of what we learned about al Qaeda), including the 3 waterboardees, but he certainly has no qualms over the killing of 400-500 militants, along with those civilians unfortunate enough to have been in the vicinity of Drone attacks. The latest to bite the dust is Hussein al-Yemeni, an al Qaeda trainer believed to have had a role to play in the suicide bombing that killed 7 CIA officers (Pakistani Taliban chief Hakimullah Mehsud who claimed credit as well may or may not be dead from a previous strike).
*snip* (various quotes)
No tears shed, certainly. And I’m glad for the parts of the Bush-era counter-terrorism programs that President Obama has chosen to retain. However, criticism persists that the Obama approach is to kill over capture.


This is certainly a switch from the "kill 'em all, let Allah sort 'em out" sentiment that was so common on the right just a few short years ago.
Perhaps they are afraid the administration is trying to set a precedent for a census-enabled drone offensive against patriots and conservatives?

144 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:30:59am

re: #135 right_wing2

Why are demographics the business of ANYBODY at the federal, state or local level? Government, as a representative of ALL Americans, needs to be completely color blind.

Demographics are, I would say, the bread and butter of those elected to make decisions for the demos, but I could be wrong.

145 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:31:12am

re: #138 right_wing2

Okay. So you claim to only want what's constitutional, but you think that you understand the constitution better than the people in 1790.

Your argument is weak as hell. I doubt you even knew the history of the census at all.

146 What, me worry?  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:31:23am

re: #120 iceweasel

She's constantly mentioned by people who ought to know better. She has TV appearances, like the one Charles posted a few weeks ago (Joy Behar show, I think?). Andy McCarthy at NRO has linked her in his own nirther fantasies. The NYT mentions her. She's interviewed John Bolton a number of times.

Anyone looking at her blog should know right away that she's a complete wacko, but for some mystifying reason she does have attention.

She looked the fool on Joy Behar. Personally, she looks the fool wherever I see her. Wacko, yes. Dangerous, hardly.

147 Soap_Man  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:31:48am

re: #140 Mad Al-Jaffee

I got the short form this week. Filled out my part and left it in my housemate's mailbox with a note asking her to fill out the "Person 2" information. I could have done that, but I don't know her date of birth.

The only dishonest thing was use the name "Rusty Shackleford" on it.

"Too late! I killed Shackleford!"

(Cops gasp, one loads his sniper rifle)

"Check that. Shackleford wants a pizza."

148 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:31:53am

re: #139 Cato the Elder

If Germany hasn't done a full census since 1987, can you imagine how out-of-date their statistical base is?

Of course, Pammy would have an explanation for that. The Euros are delaying their censi to hide just how big the Moooslim population has grown. There won't be another Euro-census until it's tooo laaate.

So would she be happy if ours just asked how many people were in the house, and if any of them were Muslims?

149 abbyadams  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:31:54am

re: #109 Walter L. Newton

Okey-dokey. I retract.

150 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:32:06am

BBIAB... going to go take a picture for The Sanity Inspector.

151 right_wing2  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:32:27am

re: #141 Obdicut

I'm not concerned about it being a 'threat to freedom', it's just none of their flippin' business.

152 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:32:40am

re: #149 abbyadams

Okey-dokey. I retract.

No problem. Like I said though, I find no problem with this.

153 Dragon_Lady  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:32:49am

re: #137 Jimmah

It's a style of poster - with a picture and a message - originally done as the antithesis of the motivational posters you often see in offices etc - like the photo of the kitty with the caption "Hang in There!". Example :

[Link: despair.com...]

They are often designed just to rip on people as well of course, like the ones we are doing:)

Ooooh, I like it! Sounds like fun! Who have you done so far? If I may ask...

154 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:34:48am

re: #145 Obdicut

Okay. So you claim to only want what's constitutional, but you think that you understand the constitution better than the people in 1790.

Your argument is weak as hell. I doubt you even knew the history of the census at all.

like playing tennis with a newbie. sure, you can win...but if they can't even hit the ball back, it gets old reeeally fast/

155 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:34:54am

Irrational Fear (tm) it's all the rage in 2010.

156 webevintage  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:35:36am

re: #135 right_wing2

Why are demographics the business of ANYBODY at the federal, state or local level? Government, as a representative of ALL Americans, needs to be completely color blind.

Are you really just playing Devil's advocate here or are you just that uninformed? Even my teenager understands this important bit of Civics class.

The demographics provided inform how federal funds are allocated to your area.
If you don't care if you live in an area where Jedis are under counted then I guess we can't help you.

157 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:36:25am

re: #151 right_wing2

I'm not concerned about it being a 'threat to freedom', it's just none of their flippin' business.

So how would you have the government do anything at all if it should be blind to the composition and needs of its own people? Without basic numbers, you couldn't even allocate congressional districts as directed in the Constitution.

Oh, wait...that's right, you wingers wouldn't have the government do anything but kill foreigners. Silly me.

158 Dragon_Lady  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:37:10am

re: #142 Lidane

Questions about race are purely demographic, I think.

Personally, I'm not bothered by someone asking what race I am. In fact, most of the time folks are surprised when I say I'm Latina, since they tend to assume I'm Italian, or even a fair-skinned Greek. I think the whole thing is pretty amusing, really.

You know, I'm mixed heritage with dark reddish brown hair and freckles, and people think I'm Hispanic. I get it all the time! I've even been chewed out for not being proud of my Hispanic heritage because I'm not fluent in Spanish, I told her that last time I looked German, French and Irish people don't speak Spanish! I've never seen anyone turn that many shades of red then white before. It was pretty funny in a way.

159 Millicent Islam  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:37:18am

re: #146 marjoriemoon

She looked the fool on Joy Behar. Personally, she looks the fool wherever I see her. Wacko, yes. Dangerous, hardly.

Well, for me it's like Glenn Beck, or Alex Jones. Those guys aren't themselves dangerous to anyone, but they pump out crazy stuff that contributes to a dangerous climate or dangerous people. In Pammy's case, her total hatred of Muslims, her rabid fear-mongering, and delusional ideas seem to me to be dangerous. She's just one factor among many, true, and in terms of the big picture, a small one. I do consider her a sign of the times, though.

I laugh at her myself, but when you see people at NRO linking her, I get mad.

160 abbyadams  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:37:19am

re: #127 Walter L. Newton

Look, man, I'm not stalking you. I actually respect you, despite your prickles, because you say what you think, results be damned. I don't come to blogs to pick fights, and you like to argue, and that's cool with me. But you're not going to get a rise out of me.

I made a semantic mistake - people were asking why they weren't receiving the long form on the census, and I tried to post a clarification. I retracted the fact that it's not mandatory. I'm prepared to move on. Are you?

161 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:37:20am

re: #146 marjoriemoon

She looked the fool on Joy Behar. Personally, she looks the fool wherever I see her. Wacko, yes. Dangerous, hardly.

Well, I don't know. Blog-whoring your kids could be seen as abuse, actually.

162 abbyadams  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:37:44am

re: #152 Walter L. Newton

Thanks. Please ignore the question below.

163 abbyadams  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:38:05am

re: #162 abbyadams

(er, above.)

164 Millicent Islam  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:38:31am

re: #153 Dragon_Lady

Ooooh, I like it! Sounds like fun! Who have you done so far? If I may ask...

We have one on Breitbart, and one on Malkin...that might be it so far. Jimmah has the links. He'll get them!
So sorry about your flu and your tummy. Hope you're better soon!

165 Aye Pod  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:38:39am

What business is it of the gubbermint to know ANYTHING about ANYTHING? Just what are they planning to do with this...INFORMATION?* I'M SCARED.

*INFORMATION implies INFORMERS. THINK ABOUT IT.///

166 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:39:13am

Breaking news -

BAD NEWS --

The student senate at UC Berkeley passed the referendum to divest from Israel, specifically, GE and United Technology. The vote was 16-4 and lasted past 3 am.

167 garhighway  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:39:15am

re: #129 right_wing2

re: #122 Obdicut

The Constitutional purpose of the census is to determine the number of seats in the House of Representatives for each district. Anything beyond that serves no Constitutional function.

You misunderstand the purpose of the Constitution. It was to set out a broad framework of principles and structure with which to set up the government of this country. It wasn't to describe, in detail, every little thing that government was to do and how it was to do it.

The Constitution specifically provided that Congress was to pass laws. It was considered obvious at the time (and still ought to be obvious) that such laws would deal with subjects discussed in the Constitution but in greater detail and at greater length. Thus, the Constitution says there should be a census and why, and Congress then figures out the details, including (for example) the precise points of information the Census would gather. This is EXACTLY as the framers intended it. Otherwise, the Constitution would be a straitjacket, and the framers would be dopes.

To obdicut's point, many of the legislators in that first Congress were the framers themselves. They have left absolutely no record of being displeased at the depth of the first census. That would seem to indicate that the first census was conducted precisely in accordance with how THEY thought it ought to work.

So it would seem that you intend to substitute your judgment for what they meant over theirs. With all due respect, I'll go with their judgment on this point.

168 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:39:23am

re: #162 abbyadams

re: #163 abbyadams

Again, no problem, I was overreacting.

Now I'm really going out to take a picture... BBIAB

169 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:39:58am

Crazy Pam's readers think the oppression is designed to silence dissenters...

The mere fact that they have chosen you, Pamela, to harass, tells you just how stupid these people are.
Do they think this will scare you? That none of us would be informed of their thug tactics?

There is no doubt in my mind that you are of "special interest" due to the fact you expose the truth.

170 Guanxi88  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:40:18am

The long-form Census instrument is one of the best sources of information about the composition, buying habits, and what-have-you of the American people. There's a reason EVERY business in the US uses the data and waits eagerly for its release.

171 Dragon_Lady  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:40:35am

re: #164 iceweasel

We have one on Breitbart, and one on Malkin...that might be it so far. Jimmah has the links. He'll get them!
So sorry about your flu and your tummy. Hope you're better soon!

The links would be great and thanks, I'm working on it. You know I needed to loose some weight, but something tells me this isn't quite how its supposed to be done... :-P

172 right_wing2  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:40:48am

Basic numbers I'll support. Yes. 100% agreement. NOTHING beyond that.

I don't want to participate in Social Security, I don't want federal involvement in things that are best handled by the local or state goverments. They can look at age aspects for things like schools (yes I'd get rid of the Dept' of Education at the federal level- again, leave it to state & local authorities or, better yet, let parents have more control than some burueacrat) or nursing homes.

Race has no impact, or should have no impact.

173 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:41:16am

re: #158 Dragon_Lady

I don't even try to ethnically classify people I meet. This city is a (wonderful) mix of Hispanic, Oriental, Indian, Caucasian, etc. etc. groups with many 2nd (or later) generational folk that are simply Americans. Making any conclusions based simply on visuals will get you into trouble (probably fairly quickly).

174 Olsonist  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:42:00am

re: #119 right_wing2

... I hope someone is very good at reading tiny print for the questions that don't relate to the number of people when they get my form.

Well then, there may be a statistical undercounting of idiots and yahoos.

175 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:42:18am

re: #172 right_wing2

Tea Party!

176 dean_k  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:42:19am

re: #85 marjoriemoon

Yeah. I'm right handed, but people think I'm left handed because of the way I hold a pen. Strange but true.

177 Dragon_Lady  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:42:22am

re: #165 Jimmah

What business is it of the gubbermint to know ANYTHING about ANYTHING? Just what are they planning to do with this...INFORMATION?* I'M SCARED.

*INFORMATION implies INFORMERS. THINK ABOUT IT.///

Nicely done Jimmah! I wish I could come up with stuff like that, you are very fast on your feet fingers. Upding for the sarcasm!

178 What, me worry?  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:43:08am

re: #159 iceweasel

Well, for me it's like Glenn Beck, or Alex Jones. Those guys aren't themselves dangerous to anyone, but they pump out crazy stuff that contributes to a dangerous climate or dangerous people. In Pammy's case, her total hatred of Muslims, her rabid fear-mongering, and delusional ideas seem to me to be dangerous. She's just one factor among many, true, and in terms of the big picture, a small one. I do consider her a sign of the times, though.

I laugh at her myself, but when you see people at NRO linking her, I get mad.

Geller wishes upon her greatest wish that she's a Glenn Beck! No freaking way! Read her site for less than 5 minutes and if you can't figure out she's a racist kook by then, it probably says more about you then her (well not "you" you hehe). She has no readers. At least, she rarely gets comments to her articles.

She gets a shoutout every now and then, but I wouldn't compare her to Beck or Jones who I feel really are dangerous.

179 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:43:27am

re: #158 Dragon_Lady

You know, I'm mixed heritage with dark reddish brown hair and freckles, and people think I'm Hispanic. I get it all the time! I've even been chewed out for not being proud of my Hispanic heritage because I'm not fluent in Spanish, I told her that last time I looked German, French and Irish people don't speak Spanish! I've never seen anyone turn that many shades of red then white before. It was pretty funny in a way.

I've been told a number of times how important it is for me to learn Spanish and teach it to my children. I just smile and promise to do so...

I did have one very funny class of fifth-graders that included a group of girls who kept asking if I was Latina. I think they hoped the answer would be yes so I could be their special teacher, the way the science teacher was for the black kids. I had to keep saying no, and after a while, "Sorry guys, I didn't get a chance to become Latina over the weekend. Still not Latina."

180 right_wing2  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:44:06am

re: #174 Olsonist

Like I said, I gave the number of people in my household. And all the rest of the cr-p. They'll have a heck of a time reading my name & age though.

181 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:44:19am

I figured out what CENCUS stands for, and it's sinister, my friends!

Communist
Envelopment
Now
Coming (to)
United
States

182 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:44:23am

re: #166 eclectic infidel

Breaking news -

BAD NEWS --

The student senate at UC Berkeley passed the referendum to divest from Israel, specifically, GE and United Technology. The vote was 16-4 and lasted past 3 am.

Yeah, I saw that in e-mail.

GodDAMN.

183 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:44:28am

Massive Tea Party rally in DC for this Saturday. Let's see if they can top the 300 idiots who showed up earlier this week.

184 right_wing2  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:44:49am

re: #175 Stanley Sea

Abso-fraggin'-lutely.

185 garhighway  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:45:27am

re: #172 right_wing2

Basic numbers I'll support. Yes. 100% agreement. NOTHING beyond that.

I don't want to participate in Social Security, I don't want federal involvement in things that are best handled by the local or state goverments. They can look at age aspects for things like schools (yes I'd get rid of the Dept' of Education at the federal level- again, leave it to state & local authorities or, better yet, let parents have more control than some burueacrat) or nursing homes.

Race has no impact, or should have no impact.

So we are past you having Constitutional objections to the census are now just down to personal preference? Fine. Run for office, and if enough people vote for you and those who believe as you do, your preference will control.

Good luck with that. Drop us a line and let us know how it turns out for you.

186 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:45:41am

re: #182 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah, I saw that in e-mail.

GodDAMN.

And you know this will be used as a template to spread to other UC campuses.

The Cal SJP are going to be very empowered now.

187 darthstar  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:45:41am
188 MandyManners  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:45:50am

re: #166 eclectic infidel

Breaking news -

BAD NEWS --

The student senate at UC Berkeley passed the referendum to divest from Israel, specifically, GE and United Technology. The vote was 16-4 and lasted past 3 am.

Shit.

189 Guanxi88  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:45:56am

Honestly, if the Census didn't exist, the private sector would have to invent it; it's that useful to marketers and businesspeople.

190 reine.de.tout  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:46:26am

re: #119 right_wing2

I got my form and filled it out yesterday.
It was much less intrusive than I remember previous forms being.
Much less.

191 reine.de.tout  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:47:29am

re: #189 Guanxi88

Honestly, if the Census didn't exist, the private sector would have to invent it; it's that useful to marketers and businesspeople.

Absolutely!
And to the gov't too.
You cannot plan anything for the future unless you know who you are planning for, and that includes age - also gender, tho I don't think that's on the form.

192 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:47:33am

re: #180 right_wing2

Like I said, I gave the number of people in my household. And all the rest of the cr-p. They'll have a heck of a time reading my name & age though.

way to stick it to the Man, bro.

(eyeroll)

193 Guanxi88  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:47:54am

re: #179 SanFranciscoZionist

I've been told a number of times how important it is for me to learn Spanish and teach it to my children. I just smile and promise to do so...

I did have one very funny class of fifth-graders that included a group of girls who kept asking if I was Latina. I think they hoped the answer would be yes so I could be their special teacher, the way the science teacher was for the black kids. I had to keep saying no, and after a while, "Sorry guys, I didn't get a chance to become Latina over the weekend. Still not Latina."

My mother was "adopted" by the Lebanese kids at her school. Close enough was good enough for them. "We're practically neighbors, and besides, you look JUST like my Aunt So-and-So. You SURE you're not Arab?"

194 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:48:01am

re: #189 Guanxi88

Honestly, if the Census didn't exist, the private sector would have to invent it; it's that useful to marketers and businesspeople.

Government now has their excuse for jacking up the corporate tax rates!

/

In other news Philadelphia City Council is not favoring a sugar tax ($0.02/oz), but instead considering a hefty property tax hike. $140 million dollar deficits lead to serious thinking...

195 Aye Pod  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:48:08am

re: #153 Dragon_Lady

Ooooh, I like it! Sounds like fun! Who have you done so far? If I may ask...

Sure!

Image: malkinmotivatortinfoil.jpg

Image: breitbartmotivationalrageahol.jpg

Image: pammotivater.jpg

Image: gaze.jpg

196 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:48:24am
197 Dragon_Lady  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:48:31am

re: #181 Mad Al-Jaffee

I figured out what CENCUS stands for, and it's sinister, my friends!

Communist
Envelopment
Now
Coming (to)
United
States

Coming to? Been here, in the midst of doing that. Just look at the folks Mr.O'B has on his staff...

198 right_wing2  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:48:39am

re: #190 reine.de.tout
First census I got was the massive 10 or 12 page one. Back then I filled the whole thing out with no problems. Oh well. I'd have all kinds of fun with the 'big form' these days.

re: #185 garhighway

Personal objections in addition to Constitutional ones.

199 MandyManners  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:49:01am

re: #194 oaktree

Government now has their excuse for jacking up the corporate tax rates!

/

In other news Philadelphia City Council is not favoring a sugar tax ($0.02/oz), but instead considering a hefty property tax hike. $140 million dollar deficits lead to serious thinking...

Why not cut down on spending?

200 subsailor68  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:49:20am

re: #189 Guanxi88

Honestly, if the Census didn't exist, the private sector would have to invent it; it's that useful to marketers and businesspeople.

Hi Guanxi88! LOL! I think you've hit that one squarely on the head. But wouldn't it be ironic if folks who favor the census collecting these data for that reason also scrambled to have their phone numbers put on the national do-not-call list! Heh.

;-)

201 Millicent Islam  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:49:32am

re: #195 Jimmah

Sure!

[Link: i238.photobucket.com...]

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[Link: i238.photobucket.com...]

These are
Malkin
Breitbart
Pammy again
Michelle Bachmann. heh.

202 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:49:37am

re: #195 Jimmah

Sure!

[Link: i238.photobucket.com...]

[Link: i238.photobucket.com...]

[Link: i238.photobucket.com...]

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How many times have you posted all that :) Touche'

203 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:49:41am

re: #199 MandyManners

Why not cut down on spending?

That has been brought up according to the paper. But no specifics on what/who would get the brunt of the cuts.

204 Cineaste  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:49:50am

re: #33 webevintage

No, I really was disappointed we did not get the long form.
Not being sarcastic or snarky, just making a personal observation about my odd love of filling out surveys and such.
As it is the one we did get is so boring it is still sitting on the kitchen table.

Same - though I did find it amusing that they had to print on the census envelope that it was business return mail so the post office knows that it is pre-paid. You'd kind of hope the post office knows that the census forms need to go through for free...

205 Dragon_Lady  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:50:19am

re: #195 Jimmah

Thanks, I bookmarked all of them, their great!

206 Millicent Islam  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:50:42am

re: #198 right_wing2

First census I got was the massive 10 or 12 page one. Back then I filled the whole thing out with no problems. Oh well. I'd have all kinds of fun with the 'big form' these days.

Providing false information on it is prosecutable. At least, you can be fined for it.
Have at it.

207 simoom  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:50:45am

re: #143 shiplord kirel

This is certainly a switch from the "kill 'em all, let Allah sort 'em out" sentiment that was so common on the right just a few short years ago.
Perhaps they are afraid the administration is trying to set a precedent for a census-enabled drone offensive against patriots and conservatives?

If you scroll down a little from that post, you come to a commenter recycling an argument the left made after Abu Ghraib; that prisoner abuse makes the enemy less likely to surrender, thus endangering our troops:

The downside of this, of course is: 2) when our enemies know that surrender is no longer accepted, they have no choice but to fight to the death. The Japanese leadership in WW2 used terrifying lies about America’s treatment of POW’s to keep any of the Japanese soldiers from surrendering even in the face of overwhelming force. As a result, we fought some of the bloodiest battles of the war, and even faced post-war insurgencies because the remaining Japanese forces were so afraid of what would happen to them if they stood down that they chose instead to fight to the death.

Taking no prisoners will cause our enemies to fight harder and more stoically than they would if they knew we would accept their surrender.

Though, I'm not sure how it applies here since it would seem death-by-drone-strike would only be a danger to those that do not surrender?

208 What, me worry?  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:50:53am

re: #195 Jimmah

Sure!

[Link: i238.photobucket.com...]

[Link: i238.photobucket.com...]

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[Link: i238.photobucket.com...]

OMG those are great!!

209 garhighway  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:50:55am

re: #198 right_wing2

First census I got was the massive 10 or 12 page one. Back then I filled the whole thing out with no problems. Oh well. I'd have all kinds of fun with the 'big form' these days.

re: #185 garhighway

Personal objections in addition to Constitutional ones.

Your personal preferences are your business. Your Constitutional argument is utter nonsense.

210 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:50:57am

re: #204 Cineaste

My presumption is that the USPS is still getting paid for processing the census forms. It's mail.

211 Millicent Islam  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:51:01am

re: #202 Walter L. Newton

How many times have you posted all that :) Touche'

Just the once. :)

212 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:51:11am

re: #193 Guanxi88

My mother was "adopted" by the Lebanese kids at her school. Close enough was good enough for them. "We're practically neighbors, and besides, you look JUST like my Aunt So-and-So. You SURE you're not Arab?"

My mom is routinely mistaken for Sephardi, Greek, Arab, Italian, Armenian...you can probably visualize her from that list.

I have her coloring, laid over my father's Irish features, which, for obvious historical reasons, ends up with me looking Spanish. Or possibly Romanian.

213 reine.de.tout  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:51:20am

re: #198 right_wing2

First census I got was the massive 10 or 12 page one. Back then I filled the whole thing out with no problems. Oh well. I'd have all kinds of fun with the 'big form' these days.

Why fill the massive form before with no problems, but you would have all kinds of fun "these days"?

Sorry - it's not making any sense to me.

This information is useful no matter who is in office.
And there will be a change in the office of the Presidency within the next 10 years, at some point.

214 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:51:20am

re: #211 iceweasel

Just the once. :)

Oh... :)

215 Olsonist  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:51:27am

re: #189 Guanxi88

Honestly, if the Census didn't exist, the private sector would have to invent it; it's that useful to marketers and businesspeople.

This is true but as a Public Good, it is more efficient for the public sector to manage this.

216 MandyManners  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:51:32am

re: #203 oaktree

That has been brought up according to the paper. But no specifics on what/who would get the brunt of the cuts.

Spread the across the board?

217 What, me worry?  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:52:16am

re: #201 iceweasel

These are
Malkin
Breitbart
Pammy again
Michelle Bachmann. heh.

So funny and clever. I'm going out on a high note.

Ahhh!!!

hehe catch you cats later.

218 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:52:19am

re: #181 Mad Al-Jaffee

I guess my acronym would have been better if I had spelled Census right. But the misspelling of it makes it more authentic.

219 Cineaste  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:52:21am

re: #45 webevintage

We did have a worker stop by a few months ago to let us know that we would be getting a form to fill out.
He was very nice, my dogs wanted to eat him.
Maybe this is considered a crazy part of the country (semi rural AR) that has a low return rate?

He was probably from Acorn and carefully recording how many "urban" people to say lived there in order to jerry-rig the future elections to ensure that Obama and the Bildebergs are able to control your mind-grapes.

// as if I need to...

220 bosforus  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:52:25am

My not so exciting census "story": I got the census in the mail, read that I only had to answer the first four questions (because they were the only ones with the OBM number) and then I mailed it. I almost didn't even fill it out though because it asked for the number of residents that will be living at my residence on April 1st and since I am moving on March 31st, it's really impossible for me to say who's going to be there the day after. I decided to not be a pain in the arse about it though.

221 Cineaste  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:53:16am

re: #52 Stanley Sea

Ah yes, the RNC census. On one hand they demonize the census, on the other they solicit using the same format. Gotta engage the brain to get past it.

Didn't Carl Rove make his career in direct-mail before teaming up with W?

222 Guanxi88  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:53:17am

re: #215 Olsonist

This is true but as a Public Good, it is more efficient for the public sector to manage this.

Hey, don't I know it! It's one of the most valuable, yet un-noticed, things we do for business in this country.

223 reine.de.tout  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:53:18am

re: #213 reine.de.tout

OOPS. format screw up.'

re: #198 right_wing2

First census I got was the massive 10 or 12 page one. Back then I filled the whole thing out with no problems. Oh well. I'd have all kinds of fun with the 'big form' these days.

Why fill the massive form before with no problems, but you would have all kinds of fun "these days"?

Sorry - it's not making any sense to me.

This information is useful no matter who is in office.
And there will be a change in the office of the Presidency within the next 10 years, at some point.

224 Dragon_Lady  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:53:32am

re: #191 reine.de.tout

Absolutely!
And to the gov't too.
You cannot plan anything for the future unless you know who you are planning for, and that includes age - also gender, tho I don't think that's on the form.

Oh yes it is! I still haven't sent ours in and I went to look. Not only do they want your gender they want your age, name and birth date!

225 MandyManners  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:53:56am

re: #216 MandyManners

Spread the across the board?

cuts

226 right_wing2  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:54:02am

re: #206 iceweasel

Who'd be lying? I just wouldn't give it to them in a way they could easily use. I leave for work at 8:30:02.6 Eastern time, get to work at 13:48:16.6 GMT.

227 Cineaste  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:54:04am

re: #54 Decider

Obama holds a pen like a Marxist. That is the way you spot a Socialist. Just make them write something.

and of course if he signed with an "X" instead of an "O" then they would say it was and "X" for marXism...

228 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:54:07am

re: #204 Cineaste

Same - though I did find it amusing that they had to print on the census envelope that it was business return mail so the post office knows that it is pre-paid. You'd kind of hope the post office knows that the census forms need to go through for free...

...somewhere in there is a clever commentary on what one govt organization thinks of the other...

"hey, Janet - shouldn't we put something on these so the post office doesn't reject them?"

"well...they already say census bureau on them..."

"It's the post office"

"Ok, you're probably right."

229 reine.de.tout  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:54:44am

re: #224 Dragon_Lady

Oh yes it is! I still haven't sent ours in and I went to look. Not only do they want your gender they want your age, name and birth date!

OK, I just couldn't recall.
The form was so short.

230 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:54:53am

re: #221 Cineaste

Didn't Carl Rove make his career in direct-mail before teaming up with W?

Don't know! What a leap that would be.

231 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:55:00am

My father once called a Mexican restaurant in our neighborhood to see if my mother had gone there for dinner. "Oh yes, of course I know you!" the owner told him. "You're married to the Mexican lady with short curly hair. No, she's not here tonight."

(No, I have no idea why I'm telling mistaken-ethnicity anecdotes.)

232 Cineaste  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:55:33am

re: #228 Aceofwhat?

...somewhere in there is a clever commentary on what one govt organization thinks of the other...

"hey, Janet - shouldn't we put something on these so the post office doesn't reject them?"

"well...they already say census bureau on them..."

"It's the post office"

"Ok, you're probably right."

that's probably more accurate than I care to admit

233 right_wing2  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:55:33am

re: #213 reine.de.tout

I'm less trusting of the federal goverment than I was 20 years ago. No matter who's in charge.

234 bosforus  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:55:54am

re: #220 bosforus

I almost didn't even fill it out though because it asked for the number of residents that will be living at my residence on April 1st and since I am moving on March 31st, it's really impossible for me to say who's going to be there the day after.


Though I was seriously doubting it because now I've provided false information! Oops. Is that a helicopter I hear?

235 Cineaste  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:56:36am

re: #230 Stanley Sea

Don't know! What a leap that would be.

From wikipedia:

"In 1981, Rove founded a direct mail consulting firm, Karl Rove & Co., in Austin. The firm's first clients included Texas Governor Bill Clements and Democratic congressman Phil Gramm, who later became a Republican congressman and United States Senator. Rove operated his consulting business until 1999, when he sold the firm to take a full-time position in George W. Bush's presidential campaign."

236 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:56:40am

re: #224 Dragon_Lady

Oh yes it is! I still haven't sent ours in and I went to look. Not only do they want your gender they want your age, name and birth date!

They want your birthdate because with their NSA (Never Stop Assaulting your freedom) supercomputers, they can figure out your SSN and bank account numbers and control your life!!!

237 Dragon_Lady  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:57:04am

re: #229 reine.de.tout

OK, I just couldn't recall.
The form was so short.

Now what I want to know is, if they only want to know how many people living at you residence, why do they want my name? Could it also be fugitive tracking?

238 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:57:06am

re: #226 right_wing2

Who'd be lying? I just wouldn't give it to them in a way they could easily use. I leave for work at 8:30:02.6 Eastern time, get to work at 13:48:16.6 GMT.

why do i hear "highway to the danger zone" in my head each time i read one of your posts?

239 LudwigVanQuixote  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:57:50am

So I finish my morning work to log on to see a nice Harpy shrieks again thread.

Of course the level of crazy needs to be documented, but this is just too much for me right now.

There should be some sort of advisory warning about the Harpy and Malkin and and all of her fellow insane travelers.

Something like:

Warning: Overexposure to concentrated madness and stupidity will cause headaches, nausea and potential permanent damage to intelligence.

I see stuff like the Oganda or some bizarre comment about penmanship and my head literally hurts. It feels kind of like turning on the Tele at two in the morning and being assaulted by a particularly loud and insipid infomercial.

240 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:57:55am

re: #220 bosforus

My not so exciting census "story": I got the census in the mail, read that I only had to answer the first four questions (because they were the only ones with the OBM number) and then I mailed it. I almost didn't even fill it out though because it asked for the number of residents that will be living at my residence on April 1st and since I am moving on March 31st, it's really impossible for me to say who's going to be there the day after. I decided to not be a pain in the arse about it though.

You can expect the black helicopters hovering over your new place bu April 5.

241 Dragon_Lady  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:58:06am

re: #236 Mad Al-Jaffee

They want your birthdate because with their NSA (Never Stop Assaulting your freedom) supercomputers, they can figure out your SSN and bank account numbers and control your life!!!

That would not surprise me in the least.

242 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:58:41am

re: #227 Cineaste

and of course if he signed with an "X" instead of an "O" then they would say it was and "X" for marXism...

Or his father, Malcolm.

243 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:59:02am

re: #236 Mad Al-Jaffee

They want your birthdate because with their NSA (Never Stop Assaulting your freedom) supercomputers, they can figure out your SSN and bank account numbers and control your life!!!

Don't they already know my SSN? They issued it to me, after all. ;)

244 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:59:03am

re: #234 bosforus

Though I was seriously doubting it because now I've provided false information! Oops. Is that a helicopter I hear?

Black Copters are so old school.

GPS-guided drone strikes are in.

And all census information will soon be loaded into the new government Skynet network built using "black" budget resources by Yoyodyne Industries. "Where the future begins tomorrow".

;)

245 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:59:05am

re: #239 LudwigVanQuixote

So I finish my morning work to log on to see a nice Harpy shrieks again thread.

Of course the level of crazy needs to be documented, but this is just too much for me right now.

There should be some sort of advisory warning about the Harpy and Malkin and and all of her fellow insane travelers.

Something like:

Warning: Overexposure to concentrated madness and stupidity will cause headaches, nausea and potential permanent damage to intelligence.

I see stuff like the Oganda or some bizarre comment about penmanship and my head literally hurts. It feels kind of like turning on the Tele at two in the morning and being assaulted by a particularly loud and insipid infomercial.

if you were smarter, you'd leave it on Cartoon Network/

246 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 10:59:53am

re: #242 Mad Al-Jaffee

Or his father, Malcolm.

That was one of Pam's, wasn't it? Good GRIEF.

247 simoom  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 11:00:50am

re: #178 marjoriemoon

She gets a shoutout every now and then, but I wouldn't compare her to Beck or Jones who I feel really are dangerous.

Agreed, she doesn't have as large a following, but she and Spencer did take their show on the road to CPAC this year:

10:00

Jihad: The Political Third Rail
Virginia Ballroom
Sponsored by the Freedom Defense Initiative (2 hours)

Speakers: Steve Coughlin, Wafa Sultan, Allen
West, Simon Deng, Elisabeth Sabaditsch-
Wolff, Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer

248 bosforus  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 11:01:44am

re: #244 oaktree

Black Copters are so old school.

GPS-guided drone strikes are in.

And all census information will soon be loaded into the new government Skynet network built using "black" budget resources by Yoyodyne Industries. "Where the future begins tomorrow".

;)

Well in that case I'm going to buy a poncho manufactured with stealth-based technology. They'll never find me then.

249 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 11:01:49am

re: #243 SanFranciscoZionist

Don't they already know my SSN? They issued it to me, after all. ;)

What? No way! Don't use logic and common sense on me!!!

250 reine.de.tout  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 11:01:58am

re: #237 Dragon_Lady

Now what I want to know is, if they only want to know how many people living at you residence, why do they want my name? Could it also be fugitive tracking?

They're coming for your DNA.
/

251 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 11:03:00am

Anyone here think the UC Berkeley student senate resolution urging the university to stop doing business with any corporations who do business with Israel, is not anti-Semitic?

252 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 11:04:59am
A week passed, and now I am being harassed again by another census goose stepper. They want to interview me poisonally.

poisonally


Now there's a cute way to spell the word. Sorta reminds me of a sign I saw at an anti-Israel rally, where the word terrorist was spelled "terroist."

253 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 11:07:20am

re: #251 Spare O'Lake

Anyone here think the UC Berkeley student senate resolution urging the university to stop doing business with any corporations who do business with Israel, is not anti-Semitic?

Not me brother. It's classic toxic student activism. But I'd say post it on the next thread, so it can be properly discussed.

254 bratwurst  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 11:10:32am

re: #226 right_wing2

Who'd be lying? I just wouldn't give it to them in a way they could easily use. I leave for work at 8:30:02.6 Eastern time, get to work at 13:48:16.6 GMT.

Now that's what I call sticking it to the man!!!111!!!

255 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 11:13:52am

re: #172 right_wing2

Race has no impact, or should have no impact.

Heh. And therein lies the problem with your 'argument'.

It does have an impact. That it shouldn't doesn't mean that it doesn't.

256 Olsonist  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 11:14:10am

re: #251 Spare O'Lake

That isn't what the bill said.

257 Cineaste  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 11:15:19am

re: #243 SanFranciscoZionist

Don't they already know my SSN? They issued it to me, after all. ;)

Here's a way the government can save billions:

If you are an independent contractor and make more than $600 from a company, they issue you a 1099 (which includes your address & SSN). They send the records of those 1099's to the government. If they issue more than a couple hundred, they have to submit them electronically (one of my companies is in that situation).

Why then do you have to report those 1099's a second time on your income statement? Shouldn't the government have a list of all the 1099's filed for you. The same is true for W2's. Why on earth do you need to fill all that out? Just send us a form listing each W2 & 1099 that was filed for us and have us sign it or submit a correction if something is wrong/omitted.

Instead they have people (and we know it's people), going over all these forms twice for no possible reason.

258 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 11:23:38am

re: #257 Cineaste

That's far too logical for the Federal government to adopt. Plus, think of all the government employees who would find themselves out of a job due to efficiency.

/

259 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 11:28:29am

re: #257 Cineaste

What if the company on the sly decides to under-report their employees and not send 1099s to the government? They also produce some nice looking reports for you about all the nice FICA withdrawls from your paychecks that are not being sent in.

(Over the top, but collecting data from payer and payee does help provide a double check to make sure both are on the up-and-up.)

260 Cineaste  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 11:41:28am

re: #259 oaktree

What if the company on the sly decides to under-report their employees and not send 1099s to the government? They also produce some nice looking reports for you about all the nice FICA withdrawls from your paychecks that are not being sent in.

(Over the top, but collecting data from payer and payee does help provide a double check to make sure both are on the up-and-up.)

But you're still sending a form to the employee to verify. They are signing it. Also, isn't that what auditing is supposed to prevent? Do you actually think that they cross reference these things? I doubt it. I suspect there are one group of people who record everything that companies pay and there are a wholely separate group of people (who are located in another state) who record everything that people have received and that those two lists are almost never checked against each other in any detail.

261 Ghost of Insanity  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 1:00:48pm

re: #39 Walter L. Newton

I received the census form in the mail AND a census worker hand delivered a copy to my house. Plus, I received the notice in the mail that I should watch out for the form.

It was the short form in both cases, but it was interesting that they mailed on AND hand delivered one.

They either assumed you'd lose one, or you needed one for each personality.

262 cliffster  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 1:03:20pm

re: #261 b_sharp

They either assumed you'd lose one, or you needed one for each personality.

He said they gave him 2, not 15.

263 Ghost of Insanity  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 1:06:41pm

re: #63 iceweasel

Oh Pammy. The shrieking harpy never disappoints.

A little something for Pammy, from Jimmah-Ice productions...

ROTF

Am I glad I just finished my root beer. Had I been in mid swallow when I looked at that - the disgusting things that would have been expelled from my nose.

264 Ghost of Insanity  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 1:14:02pm

re: #105 SanFranciscoZionist

Our biggest problems were:


b. My confusion about what a Latino person of indigenous ancestry was supposed to put down for 'race'.

Baha, or Indy 500.

265 Ghost of Insanity  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 1:17:54pm

re: #122 Obdicut

Why? Pure assertion really doesn't do much for me.

Maybe you aren't watering it down with enough right-wing. They seem to find a more dilute assertion more palatable.

266 Lawrence Schmerel  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 1:20:06pm

According to Leo Rosten,

The word kike was born on Ellis Island when Jewish immigrants who were there were also illiterate (or could not use Latin alphabet letters), when asked to sign the entry-forms with the customary "X," refused, because they associated an X with the cross of Christianity, and instead made a circle. The Yiddish word for 'circle' is kikel (pronounced KY-kul), and for 'little circle,' kikeleh (pronounced ky-kul-uh). Before long the immigration inspectors were calling anyone who signed with an "O" instead of an "X" a kikel or kikeleh or kikee or, finally and succinctly, kike.

According to Leo Rosten, Jewish American merchants continued to sign with an "O" instead of an "X" for several decades, spreading the nickname kike wherever they went as a result.

Maybe Barack Obama is Jewish? You would think Pamela Gellar might have considered it.

267 Ghost of Insanity  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 1:21:47pm

re: #135 right_wing2

Why are demographics the business of ANYBODY at the federal, state or local level? Government, as a representative of ALL Americans, needs to be completely color blind.

Because they deal with a society that is not colour blind and never will be if left to itself.

268 Ghost of Insanity  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 1:27:11pm

re: #163 abbyadams

(er, above.)

It took me 15 minutes to get my eyes to stop bouncing between post #162 and #163.

Now I have a headache. Thanks.

269 Expand Your Ground  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 1:29:24pm

There are signs of reason cropping up on the right, browsing through [Link: www.newsmax.com,...] a very right-wing news site, I ran across opinion columns urging people to back off attacking Michelle Obama, (as she is a responible mother, her causes are not partcularly political and is a model First Lady) another one urgingthem to lay off their ridiculous overblown objections to gay marrage ("It will lead to bestiality!")

270 Ghost of Insanity  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 1:30:31pm

re: #177 Dragon_Lady

Nicely done Jimmah! I wish I could come up with stuff like that, you are very fast on your feet fingers. Upding for the sarcasm!

Looks like Jimmah has spent too much time rubbing brain cells with his internal creationist.

271 Ghost of Insanity  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 1:33:22pm

re: #180 right_wing2

Like I said, I gave the number of people in my household. And all the rest of the cr-p. They'll have a heck of a time reading my name & age though.

Cleanup in the infant toy aisle please.

272 Gitarzan  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 1:46:25pm

re: #257 Cineaste

Here's a way the government can save billions:

If you are an independent contractor and make more than $600 from a company, they issue you a 1099 (which includes your address & SSN). They send the records of those 1099's to the government. If they issue more than a couple hundred, they have to submit them electronically (one of my companies is in that situation).

Why then do you have to report those 1099's a second time on your income statement? Shouldn't the government have a list of all the 1099's filed for you. The same is true for W2's. Why on earth do you need to fill all that out? Just send us a form listing each W2 & 1099 that was filed for us and have us sign it or submit a correction if something is wrong/omitted.

Instead they have people (and we know it's people), going over all these forms twice for no possible reason.

It's called leaving an audit trail...it is redundant in a way, but it serves to keep honest people honest in reporting income, IMO.

273 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 2:17:19pm

re: #39 Walter L. Newton

I received the census form in the mail AND a census worker hand delivered a copy to my house. Plus, I received the notice in the mail that I should watch out for the form.

It was the short form in both cases, but it was interesting that they mailed on AND hand delivered one.

The hand delivered one was a coded message, Walter. Your covert-ops training should have prepared you for that. Your handler is extremely disappointed in both your lack of perception, and your lack of discretion.

She has ordered me to deliver this message: "The fire eagle sleeps eternal". She also ordered me to tell you "Make your time". She said you would know what that meant.

274 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 3:07:57pm
It’s pretty clear Obama intends to use the census to fix the next and future elections so as to ensure his Radical Left polices prevail for the long-term.

And your evidence for this is what exactly? Isn't this census exactly like every other census that has been performed every 10 years since the nation was founded and is specifically required in the constitution itself? The dreaded "long form" census form was eliminated years ago under a Republican administration in favor of "detailed spot surveys" of a selected percentage households every year.

Morris points out that Obama will:

Morris thinks his own shortage of penile length is some kind of Obama plot, I would think that you would know better than to quote him after your utterly unsatisfying episode together (or at least that is what I heard on the internet).

1. Legalize millions of illegal aliens

Again I must ask what it is that makes you believe that to be the case? The census has nothing to do with immigration or with the legislation that deals with it.

2. Use Acorn to “assist” with the next census

You might want to buy a clue, ACORN was thrown off the list of groups who were allowed to volunteer to help the census months ago.

Census goons prying into my private life. Welcome to Oganda.

Perhaps your household was one of those few randomly selected every year for the detailed household survey, although I sincerely doubt it. Frankly I think it is more likely that you are lying thru your teeth, either you never returned the standard census form in order to make them contact you, or you are just lying about them contacting you period.

Please go find or buy a life rather than gaining millions from your supporters in a fraudulent confidence scam. They think that you are actually representing them against their "enemies", but both you and I know better. Your in the business of making money from their ignorance and you actively work at keeping them ignorant. You really make me sad, sad that people can be so intentionally misleading to others in order to make money, sad that money means more to you than the welfare of your countrymen.

275 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 3:13:42pm

re: #273 Slumbering Behemoth

Don't worry about it, all these self proclaimed "Census Experts" have no idea that the "long form" was completely eliminated years ago in favor of ongoing personal surveys of a small percentage of households every year.

Everyone seems amazed that they got the "short form" (which is now the ONLY form) rather than the dreaded (and now mythical) long form.

sigh...

276 Flame Fin Tomini Tang  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 3:16:26pm

re: #271 b_sharp

Cleanup in the infant toy aisle please.

A plant from the other side?

277 Flame Fin Tomini Tang  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 3:18:14pm

re: #180 right_wing2

Like I said, I gave the number of people in my household. And all the rest of the cr-p. They'll have a heck of a time reading my name & age though.

I would call this childish, but in truth it is simply stupid. You should be over there with Pamela if you expect brownie points.

278 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 3:39:19pm

re: #277 Naso Tang

I would call this childish, but in truth it is simply stupid. You should be over there with Pamela if you expect brownie points.

Thats ok, the more they sabotage themselves on the census forms the less power they will have in Washington. They don't get that Congressional and Senate districts will be redrawn from this data. Along with all the local election districts, and school districts. Personally I'm fine with it, the more idiotic they are with the census form the less chance they will have of being represented in the state and federal government.

When they obviously harbor so much anti-government sentiment the more they exclude themselves the better, I'll be happy to vote for them, although they might not always agree with my choices. /

279 ShaunP  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 4:30:08pm

OMG, I visited that Atlas Shrugs link and holy Jesus; I've never seen so many ads on a website in my life!

280 Cobdenite  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 4:43:14pm

"Also at Geller’s hate hole today, she finds a new reason to bash Obama — the President who is simultaneously a master schemer with a secret plan to turn America into a Nazi-like state, and an ignorant illiterate who doesn’t even know how to hold a pen."

Wait? Wasn't "Chimpy McHaliburton Bushitler" similarly accused of being an evil mastermind too stupid to tie his own shoelaces?

I mean come-on people, get your stories straight. If anything, this is more evidence of the final convergence of the lunatic left and the lunatic right. The gripes may be different, but the basic mental approach is the same - complete incoherency.

281 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 4:48:59pm

re: #279 ShaunP

OMG, I visited that Atlas Shrugs link and holy Jesus; I've never seen so many ads on a website in my life!

Yeah, but did you buy gold or crisis garden seeds? I hope you realize that you will need those after civilization collapses into "mad max" style anarchy. It is bound to happen any day now, all the ultra rightwing sites agree on that, although they do seem to be quite divided as to the reasons why.

/

282 Vambo  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 5:03:01pm

1. Let Texas secede.
2. Encourage all wingnuts to expatriate to Texas.
3. Use stem-cell evil bio-engineering to ressurect Stalin, Hilter and Mussolini.
4. Fund Stalussotler's campaign for president of Texas.

Wingnuts are so obsessed with living under a dictator, LET'S GIVE THEM A REAL ONE.

283 Lidane  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 5:33:41pm

re: #282 Vambo

1. Let Texas secede.
2. Encourage all wingnuts to expatriate to Texas.
3. Use stem-cell evil bio-engineering to ressurect Stalin, Hilter and Mussolini.
4. Fund Stalussotler's campaign for president of Texas.

Wingnuts are so obsessed with living under a dictator, LET'S GIVE THEM A REAL ONE.

Speaking as a sane Texan, can we send them all somewhere else? Maybe the U.S. government can pitch in, buy the Texas shaped island from The World and ship all the wingnuts over there. Let them all go Galt and live out their fantasies elsewhere and leave my state in peace.

284 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 5:50:31pm

re: #76 dean_k

when i was learning to write i'd always pick up the pen with my left hand - the english equivalent of the Kindergarten teacher would make me change it to my right hand. every time.

as a result my handwriting is absolutely shocking.

285 lostlakehiker  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 7:51:35pm
Every time I see BHO sign another bill, I am fascinated at how he holds a pen. He holds a pen like an illiterate. Have you seen it? Like a little kid who just learned how to write and he signs a scribble.


Umm, a lot of left-handed people hold the pen that way. It looks funny, but the mirror image of the right-handed pen-hold doesn't work because the hand drags across the page after the ink has been applied.

286 lostlakehiker  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 7:57:51pm

re: #251 Spare O'Lake

Anyone here think the UC Berkeley student senate resolution urging the university to stop doing business with any corporations who do business with Israel, is not anti-Semitic?

Of course it's antisemitic. But what else is new? California has a pattern and practice of discrimination against what the average voter sees as overly successful minorities. They dress it up in all sorts of rhetoric, especially civil rights rhetoric, but lipsticked pig is still pig.

With one-third of the seats in college reserved for underly successful minorities, the majority has more to fear from the success of overly successful minorities. There isn't much room in the middle for a middling successful student of noncolor. Why a middling-good student should get into UC Berkeley when a damned good student is turned down is an uncomfortable question for the parents of middling-good students, so on goes the lipstick.

287 Jaerik  Thu, Mar 18, 2010 11:08:01pm

re: #257 Cineaste

Why then do you have to report those 1099's a second time on your income statement? Shouldn't the government have a list of all the 1099's filed for you. The same is true for W2's. Why on earth do you need to fill all that out? Just send us a form listing each W2 and 1099 that was filed for us and have us sign it or submit a correction if something is wrong/omitted.

Dunno if someone's mentioned it in this thread already, but this is actually how most of Europe and some Asian countries do it already.

288 Yashmak  Fri, Mar 19, 2010 8:04:03am
Every time I see BHO sign another bill, I am fascinated at how he holds a pen. He holds a pen like an illiterate.

I never really paid attention to how Obama holds a pen. Seems beneath notice in terms of importance.

Moreover, she'd probably consider me 'an illiterate' too, since I don't hold my pen/pencil properly either. My teachers in grammar school thought it more important to encourage my artistic talents than to force me to hold my writing implement the way that's normally taught.

Better hope my customers don't find out they have 'an illiterate' designing and building components for their satellites and aircraft. Heh.

289 Sacred Plants  Fri, Mar 19, 2010 10:43:50am

Sorry to spoil everyone´s schadenfreude, but on this issue I am with the Beisicht Girl just like I was with Henry Louis Gates. She may be hysterical, but the nationalization of stalking is even more so. Nobody should be required to tell a government entity more than once to keep a distance. Rather the government entity should be required to carry the burden of proof when chosing not do so. No plausible argument has been made why participation in a census should be any more mandatory than participation in an election. This is an issue of constitutional integrity regardless who happens to collide with it.

290 Vambo  Fri, Mar 19, 2010 2:22:00pm

re: #289 Sacred Plants

Sorry to spoil everyone´s schadenfreude, but on this issue I am with the Beisicht Girl just like I was with Henry Louis Gates. She may be hysterical, but the nationalization of stalking is even more so. Nobody should be required to tell a government entity more than once to keep a distance. Rather the government entity should be required to carry the burden of proof when chosing not do so. No plausible argument has been made why participation in a census should be any more mandatory than participation in an election. This is an issue of constitutional integrity regardless who happens to collide with it.

I agree with you about voting.

Please, don't ever vote.

291 Sacred Plants  Sat, Mar 20, 2010 7:48:13am

re: #290 Vambo

If I said I didn´t, how could you be sure about it?


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 Frank says:

Well Mike, I'm abnormal. -- When FZ appeared on the Mike Douglas show (solo, playing guitar with recorded backup), Mike said "Your latest album is called Zoot Allures. How do you come up with such names for your records?" (or something equally banal!) Frank's succinct reply is printed above.