bang bang, stab stab

"The wordy squirts" !!

Sacra-dorable.

And of course Stewart's epic Beck parody from last night.

re: #4 recusancy

And of course Stewart's epic Beck parody from last night.

That was so wonderful and it shows how loony Beck really is.

I can't really get into Colbert. I just find the character kind of annoying - especially his delivery.

I did like him on Strangers With Candy and as one of the Ambiguously Gay Duo.

re: #5 HappyWarrior

That was so wonderful and it shows how loony Beck really is.

I don't think we needed Stewart to show us that. :)

He fed the 4000 with Gubmint Cheese with a side order of Trickle Down Economics.
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re: #7 recusancy

I don't think we needed Stewart to show us that. :)

True dat but he really illustrated it.

Between the scam that Hannity has been pulling with his "Charity" and Steward and Colbert piling on Beck one would think some might get the idea that they are being used...while Beck & Hannity take the money to the bank made off the backs of their donors.

Colbert will have my respect for the rest of his life. His performance at the 2006 White House Press Correspondents Dinner was simply epic. And I can't imagine the stones it took to go through with it.

I agree that an element of 'social justice' is helping the 'poor' and the way we treat people. I disagree with 'social justice' in that I am forced to help anyone because the collective deems it so.

re: #10 Bulldoglover100

Have we had any confirmation that Hannity's thing is a scam yet?

re: #12 Oh no...Sand People!

I agree that an element of 'social justice' is helping the 'poor' and the way we treat people. I disagree with 'social justice' in that I am forced to help anyone because the collective deems it so.

I sure hope you aren't a Christian then.

re: #13 Obdicut

Have we had any confirmation that Hannity's thing is a scam yet?

I'm skeptical of the entire thing simply because the source is so unreliable. But if her numbers are truly gleaned from Hannity's charity tax filings, I don't see how she could be wrong? It would be nice if there were some actual journalists doing actual reporting on the topic. Seeing as the New York Times and Washington Post ombudsmen said they covered the "ACORN Pimp Chronicles" because of right-wing blog hyperventilation, maybe we can expect their reporters to follow up?

re: #15 drcordell

I don't trust her interpretation of tax filings. Hell, I don't trust her interpretation of a traffic light.

I do agree that it'd be nice if any journalist took the time to have a look-see.

re: #11 drcordell

Colbert will have my respect for the rest of his life. His performance at the 2006 White House Press Correspondents Dinner was simply epic. And I can't imagine the stones it took to go through with it.

I agree. Imagine, an hour without a single laugh from the audience. I have a major crush on him and watch every night.

re: #14 drcordell

I sure hope you aren't a Christian then.

Heh. Depends on what group you ask.

re: #18 Oh no...Sand People!

Heh. Depends on what group you ask.

I think Jesus was pretty clear on his opinion of social justice. "A camel will fit through the eye of a needle before a rich man gets to heaven" seems pretty explicit to me.

re: #19 drcordell

I think Jesus was pretty clear on his opinion of social justice. "A camel will fit through the eye of a needle before a rich man gets to heaven" seems pretty explicit to me.

Colbert owned Mary Matilin later in the program on just that point.

re: #19 drcordell

I think Jesus was pretty clear on his opinion of social justice. "A camel will fit through the eye of a needle before a rich man gets to heaven" seems pretty explicit to me.

some of us don't give a fuck about that stuff...we have our own conclusions and to say we don't care about the downtrodden is just more crap you blather, which is abundant

re: #21 albusteve

some of us don't give a fuck about that stuff...we have our own conclusions and to say we don't care about the downtrodden is just more crap you blather, which is abundant

Nowhere did I say you have to believe anything Christ taught. I'm an atheist, I don't believe any of it. But if you call yourself a Christian, you sure as hell have some explaining to do if you reject Jesus' fundamental teachings.

re: #22 drcordell

Nowhere did I say you have to believe anything Christ taught. I'm an atheist, I don't believe any of it. But if you call yourself a Christian, you sure as hell have some explaining to do if you reject Jesus' fundamental teachings.

who would that be?...you have a list of us cold, uncaring bloggers?

re: #23 albusteve

who would that be?...you have a list of us cold, uncaring bloggers?

I have no idea what you are talking about. My point is that Christianity and social justice are inseparable. And if any "Christian" believes they are not, then they might want to read the Bible.

re: #11 drcordell

Colbert will have my respect for the rest of his life. His performance at the 2006 White House Press Correspondents Dinner was simply epic. And I can't imagine the stones it took to go through with it.

Agreed. That was one of the funniest, bravest things I've ever seen, and it converted me into a Colbert fan. He's spot on, and the fact that people still debate whether or not he's a conservative makes me laugh every time.

re: #24 drcordell

I have no idea what you are talking about. My point is that Christianity and social justice are inseparable. And if any "Christian" believes they are not, then they might want to read the Bible.

I agree that Christianity and social justice are inseparable, especially "social justice" as described by the good Father in this video.

However - when you speak of social justice - do you mean that a person must adhere to what your vision of social justice is in order for you to consider them properly Christian?

In liberal-speak, "social justice" = "socialist justice", the forcible confiscation of private citizens' wealth and redistribution of same as the cognoscenti see fit. It's a linguistic abomination from the same folder as "people's republic". The fact that conservatives give more to private charity than liberals do, and without all the self-congratulation that attends liberal cause-mongering, just makes it more galling.

re: #27 The Sanity Inspector

In liberal-speak, "social justice" = "socialist justice", the forcible confiscation of private citizens' wealth and redistribution of same as the cognoscenti see fit.

Are you joking?

re: #28 Obdicut

Are you joking?

No, not especially. I really do believe that there are a whole lot of control freaks out there, self-impressed with their own presumed wonderfulness, booted and spurred, who feel themselves born to ride the rest of us. I do not believe that the goals of such people and the goals of people trying to ameliorate social ills and extend opportunity are coterminous.

re: #29 The Sanity Inspector

And you're comfortable labeling all liberals like that? It doesn't cause you the least concern to say that that's 'liberal-speak', at all?

re: #26 reine.de.tout

I agree that Christianity and social justice are inseparable, especially "social justice" as described by the good Father in this video.

However - when you speak of social justice - do you mean that a person must adhere to what your vision of social justice is in order for you to consider them properly Christian?

Not my vision. Jesus' vision. Which is much more extreme. I'm not the one who told his followers to sell every possession they have to serve the poor. I just think you should have to pay some taxes. Jesus is a DFH in comparison.

re: #30 Obdicut

And you're comfortable labeling all liberals like that? It doesn't cause you the least concern to say that that's 'liberal-speak', at all?

I believe that, in certain cases and in certain eras, it's fair enough. Absence of unanimity does not mean absence of prevalence.

I just wish that more of them would examine their beliefs more critically, like they're always exhorting everyone else to do.

re: #27 The Sanity Inspector

Broad brush strokes are useful for creating blended colors on a canvas, not defining people.

re: #32 The Sanity Inspector

Yeah 'they' are so bad.

Jesus, dude, I'm almost certainly what you would consider a 'liberal', though I'm a fiscal pragmatist. Why the fuck should I ever give anything you have to say any credence, if you're willing to make a complete strawman, call it the 'liberal' position, and attack it?

I know that I resemble nothing like what you describe. I know that the progressive Quintin Mecke, who's campaign I had the pleasure of working on, doesn't resemble it in the least.

I hope it feels good to attack 'liberal-speak' like that, because it drives anyone remotely in the middle the hell away from wanting to associate with 'conservatives'.

Luckily for everyone, Andrew Schalfly is hard at work fixin' that dang ol' liberal Bible up, protecting our Moral Fiber from "socialistic" words like "labor" and "comrade."

re: #31 drcordell

Not my vision. Jesus' vision. Which is much more extreme. I'm not the one who told his followers to sell every possession they have to serve the poor. I just think you should have to pay some taxes. Jesus is a DFH in comparison.

Jesus' vision as interpreted by whom? You? The Government?

re: #27 The Sanity Inspector

In liberal-speak, "social justice" = "socialist justice", the forcible confiscation of private citizens' wealth and redistribution of same as the cognoscenti see fit. It's a linguistic abomination from the same folder as "people's republic". The fact that conservatives give more to private charity than liberals do, and without all the self-congratulation that attends liberal cause-mongering, just makes it more galling.

I believe I have an obligation to help those less fortunate that I, and in fact, I have the means to do so and I actually do donate of my time and my money to various causes.

What I am not comfortable with is the idea that unless I support government doing this for me, then I must not be living up to my obligations to those less fortunate than I am. Which seems to be suggested or hinted at by some folks as regards health care reform. I hope I am reading them wrong.

"So if I help the poor what's in it for me?"

"Other than eternal salvation you mean?"

I really like that priest.

It's when I see a man like that, that I have hope for understanding between all the faiths that come from Abraham.

re: #37 reine.de.tout

I believe I have an obligation to help those less fortunate that I, and in fact, I have the means to do so and I actually do donate of my time and my money to various causes.

What I am not comfortable with is the idea that unless I support government doing this for me, then I must not be living up to my obligations to those less fortunate than I am. Which seems to be suggested or hinted at by some folks as regards health care reform. I hope I am reading them wrong.

I don't blame you for being wary of a nanny state. But much like the question about the role of schools in children's lives, what is to be done when the parent is not present?

Our society does not by and large care for others. All the anecdotal stories about what you or people you know may have done are wonderful good things, but also a drop in the ocean. We, as Americans in general, ignore those in need much, much more than we have the desire to help. The few times where we do help during the year (which is rare enough, and most do not even do that) is insufficient. The troubles of the poor are year round.

The idea of 1000 points of light is ultimately callous and empty because in order for it to work, there would need to be a much different society behind it working... a society that cared for things like social justice.

re: #29 The Sanity Inspector

I really do believe that there are a whole lot of control freaks out there, self-impressed with their own presumed wonderfulness, booted and spurred, who feel themselves born to ride the rest of us.

Someone with such a nickname saying such a thing in a Glenn Beck thread of all places can only be seen as an exhibit how the theory of unintended humour is a bitch.