"art is a lie" -

Well then, Fox News demonstrates life imitates art.

Loreena Mckennit - Prospero's Speech

Wow..I rarely make the overnight thread...
*kicks feet up on the coffee table*
What's up lizards?

re: #3 HoosierHoops

Wow..I rarely make the overnight thread...
*kicks feet up on the coffee table*
What's up lizards?

me neither...what are you doing up?

re: #3 HoosierHoops

Well, I'm about to watch this movie:

There is no truth. There is no lie. There is only poetry!

re: #4 albusteve

me neither...what are you doing up?

Took a nap after all the basketball games and watching a movie right now..

re: #2 simoom

Loreena Mckennit - Prospero's Speech

[Video]

I was expecting a 'White Bird' sort of thing...I don't know Prospero from Daffy Duck...not my culture

re: #6 Cato the Elder

There is no truth. There is no lie. There is only poetry!

Dylan!

Cecily. Oh, I merely came back to water the roses. I thought you were with Uncle Jack.

Algernon. He’s gone to order the dog-cart for me.

Cecily. Oh, is he going to take you for a nice drive?

Algernon. He’s going to send me away.

Cecily. Then have we got to part?

Algernon. I am afraid so. It’s a very painful parting.

Cecily. It is always painful to part from people whom one has known for a very brief space of time. The absence of old friends one can endure with equanimity. But even a momentary separation from anyone to whom one has just been introduced is almost unbearable.

re: #5 freetoken

Well, I'm about to watch this movie:

[Video]

an excellent, awful movie...Blondie is a legend

re: #6 Cato the Elder

There is no truth. There is no lie. There is only poetry!

Busy old fool, unruly Sun,
Why dost thou thus,
Through windows, and through curtains, call on us?
Must to thy motions lovers' seasons run?
Saucy pedantic wretch, go chide
Late schoolboys, and sour prentices,
Go tell court-huntsmen that the king will ride,
Call country ants to harvest offices,
Love, all alike, no season knows, nor clime,
Nor hours, days, months, which are the rags of time.

Thy beams, so reverend and strong
Why shouldst thou think?
I could eclipse and cloud them with a wink,
But that I would not lose her sight so long:
If her eyes have not blinded thine,
Look, and tomorrow late, tell me
Whether both the'Indias of spice and mine
Be where thou leftst them, or lie here with me.
Ask for those kings whom thou saw'st yesterday,
And thou shalt hear: "All here in one bed lay."

She'is all states, and all princes I,
Nothing else is.
Princes do but play us; compar'd to this,
All honour's mimic, all wealth alchemy.
Thou, sun, art half as happy'as we,
In that the world's contracted thus;
Thine age asks ease, and since thy duties be
To warm the world, that's done in warming us.
Shine here to us, and thou art everywhere;
This bed thy centre is, these walls, thy sphere.
John Donne. Sun Rising

Algernon. Do you really keep a diary? I’d give anything to look at it. May I?

Cecily. Oh no. [Puts her hand over it.] You see, it is simply a very young girl’s record of her own thoughts and impressions, and consequently meant for publication. When it appears in volume form I hope you will order a copy. But pray, Ernest, don’t stop. I delight in taking down from dictation. I have reached ‘absolute perfection’. You can go on. I am quite ready for more.

Anyone hazard a guess how the markets will react Monday should the bill pass?

re: #14 Bagua

Anyone hazard a guess how the markets will react Monday should the bill pass?

As long as they keep offering double coupons I'll be happy.

re: #10 Cato the Elder

They went down the steep slip and entered into deep darkness fixed against a wall. That wall was solid rock. The Sleeper was amazed at how the glinting light had eaten away the rock. This work costs little.
Then the tunnel pitched out into ranges. They were bright, open, and airy. Looking up, The Sleeper saw a big, big house, constructed of stone.
The big house looked like a lot of small houses thrown together by animals. Passing down the aisles, The Sleeper saw many and many a vacant space marked down, the worst of which would have made most people happy. There were a few mules, and he could guess that these would be eminently useful for pure work. These legs looked mean.
The Sleeper was now certain that he was looking at the central headquarters of the Cole Younger Gang.
He saw plenty of sweet fresh air coming in through a high window. He was given a feed which he was amazed to see was of the first quality. The Sleeper was content.
He remained as silent as a gate.

***

re: #14 Bagua

Anyone hazard a guess how the markets will react Monday should the bill pass?

With positive joy. The insurance companies stand to make even bigger fortunes than before.

Put puts on Aetna and Cigna and Kaiser (Söze) Permanente, and a little company called Coventry, which rips me off monthly.

re: #17 Cato the Elder

With positive joy. The insurance companies stand to make even bigger fortunes than before.

Put puts on Aetna and Cigna and Kaiser (Söze) Permanente, and a little company called Coventry, which rips me off monthly.

Upding for the "Söze" reference.

re: #16 ryannon

I'll see you that and raise you a quote from "The Third Policeman":

"'The gross and net result of it is that people who spent most of their natural lives riding iron bicycles over the rocky roadsteads of this parish get their personalities mixed up with the personalities of their bicycle as a result of the interchanging of the atoms of each of them and you would be surprised at the number of people in these parts who are nearly half people and half bicycles...when a man lets things go so far that he is more than half a bicycle, you will not see him so much because he spends a lot of his time leaning with one elbow on walls or standing propped by one foot at kerbstones."

Vide cor meum - Dante, La Vita Nuova

Chorus: E pensando di lei - And thinking of her
Mi sopragiunse uno soave sonno- Sweet sleep overcame me

Ego dominus tuus - I am your master
Vide cor tuum - See your heart
E d'esto core ardendo - And of this burning heart
Cor tuum - Your heart
(Chorus: Lei paventosa) - (Chorus: She trembling)
Umilmente pascea. - Obediently eats.
Appreso gir lo ne vedea piangendo. - Weeping, I saw him then depart from me.

La letizia si convertia - Joy is converted
In amarissimo pianto - To bitterest tears

Io sono in pace - I am in peace
Cor meum - My heart
Io sono in pace - I am in peace
Vide cor meum - See my heart

You know what pisses me off?
One day you are watching the cutest little actress Dakota Fanning in a movie and the next day she is playing a drug addled teen rocker in runaway..
Where did the time go?
It's like kids..one day you are playing on the court teaching them Basketball..Then the next day they call you from a rooftop in Iraq from a Sat phone..

Gwendolen. [Examines diary through her lorgnettte carefully.] It is certainly very curious, for he asked me to be his wife yesterday afternoon at 5.30. If you would care to verify the incident, pray do so. [Produces diary of her own.] I never travel without my diary. One should always have something sensational to read in the train.

The open range was fenced by a low wall, over which The Sleeper could lean.
The Sleeper looked own to see what became of the gushing whisper at the base of the wall.
He could see it clearly now. The whisper was caused by solid water meeting the air and breaking, which showered down in a long arch and then dropped into the town of Guadalupe.
Many workers were toiling there. Sometimes their voices climbed slowly and faintly up to him, and sometimes he heard the talking of the water in the valley; but none of these sounds were so loud that they could not be extinguished by a single gust of wind; and the gushing of water from the pipe.

Still have I borne it with an ancient shrug,
For sufferance is the badge of all our tribe.
You call me misbeliever, cut-throat dog,
And spit upon my Jewish gaberdine,
And all for use of that which is mine own.

Drug sentencing disparity.

Michael Daley - A California trucker who was caught with 147 pounds of marijuana worth $516,000 in his rig on Route 80 in New Jersey was sentenced today to four years in state prison.

4 Years - 147 pounds with intention to distribute.

Jorge Enrique Rodriguez Mendieta - A top-ranking Colombian rebel was sentenced to more than 20 years in prison by a judge in New York on Friday for conspiring to import tons of cocaine into the United States.

20 Years - thousands of kilograms of cocaine and participating in the policy-making of the FARC.

Henry Walter Wooten - Last week, I wrote about a gentleman named Henry Walter Wooten, 54, who was handed a 35 year prison sentence in Tyler, Texas for being caught in a drug-free zone with just over four ounces of marijuana.

35 Years - 4 ounce possession.

Lady Bracknell. [Glares at Jack for a few moments. Then bends, with a practised smile, to Cecily.] Kindly turn round, sweet child. [Cecily turns completely round.] No, the side view is what I want. [Cecily presents her profile.] Yes, quite as I expected. There are distinct social possibilities in your profile. The two weak points in our age are its want of principle and its want of profile. The chin a little higher, dear. Style largely depends on the way the chin is worn. They are worn very high, just at present. Algernon!

Algernon. Yes, Aunt Augusta!

Lady Bracknell. There are distinct social possibilities in Miss Cardew’s profile.

Algernon. Cecily is the sweetest, dearest, prettiest girl in the whole world. And I don’t care twopence about social possibilities.

Lady Bracknell. Never speak disrespectfully of Society, Algernon. Only people who can’t get into it do that. [To Cecily.] Dear child, of course you know that Algernon has nothing but his debts to depend upon. But I do not approve of mercenary marriages. When I married Lord Bracknell I had no fortune of any kind. But I never dreamed for a moment of allowing that to stand in my way. Well, I suppose I must give my consent.

The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it.

13 more and I will be able to ding.
Evening.

Speaking of Brian Eno, go find yourself a used copy of the album Outside he did with David Bowie in 1995. It's a cyberpunk murder mystery concept album and it's just mindbendingly awesome.

re: #26 Gus 802

Drug sentencing disparity.

Michael Daley - A California trucker who was caught with 147 pounds of marijuana worth $516,000 in his rig on Route 80 in New Jersey was sentenced today to four years in state prison.

4 Years - 147 pounds with intention to distribute.

Jorge Enrique Rodriguez Mendieta - A top-ranking Colombian rebel was sentenced to more than 20 years in prison by a judge in New York on Friday for conspiring to import tons of cocaine into the United States.

20 Years - thousands of kilograms of cocaine and participating in the policy-making of the FARC.

Henry Walter Wooten - Last week, I wrote about a gentleman named Henry Walter Wooten, 54, who was handed a 35 year prison sentence in Tyler, Texas for being caught in a drug-free zone with just over four ounces of marijuana.

35 Years - 4 ounce possession.

There are a million reasons I'll never live in Texas, but one of them is their completely bugfuck insane sentencing.

re: #28 ozbloke

The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it.

13 more and I will be able to ding.
Evening.

Hello!
I think that rule was rescinded a while ago. Try it!

re: #31 iceweasel

Hello!
I think that rule was rescinded a while ago. Try it!

Hi you!

Rounding up some sane people's reactions to the Wash Times column calling for impeachment:

You know what's the creepiest part of that? The argument that if deem-and-pass is used, henceforth "any bill signed by Mr. Obama is illegitimate, illegal and blatantly unconstitutional." Basically, here's The Washington Times preemptively declaring that we will not have a legitimate president -- essentially seconding Orly Taitz, if for different reasons -- and validating the messages frying the brain synapses of every crackpot Timothy McVeigh out there.

Yep.

re: #32 HoosierHoops

Hi you!

Hey Handsome! What are you doing awake? And how is Winston? (loved your description of his fave sandwich, btw)
Congrats again on the new job..sounds amazing!

re: #30 WindUpBird

There are a million reasons I'll never live in Texas, but one of them is their completely bugfuck insane sentencing.

35 year is insanity for what he was charged with. Even what some people say was "back in the old days" tough on crime judges would lay down sentences of 10 years for armed robbery. The 35 years is the result of mandatory sentencing guidelines and the location of the arrest within a school zone.

re: #31 iceweasel

Hey Ice,

So happy for you that Jimmah will be with you Sunday.

My partner is Scottish, her parents are visiting us here in Australia at the mo, expecting to leave to go back home on Sunday if British Airways don't cancel their flight.

You know all Scottish food was based on a dare, I heard t first at LGF.

Cheers

re: #36 ozbloke

Hey Ice,

So happy for you that Jimmah will be with you Sunday.

My partner is Scottish, her parents are visiting us here in Australia at the mo, expecting to leave to go back home on Sunday if British Airways don't cancel their flight.

You know all Scottish food was based on a dare, I heard t first at LGF.

Cheers

Thanks! Hope you're having a nice visit with her folks and that they have a safe trip. My best to your bonnie lassie as well. ;)

Jack. I beg your pardon for interrupting you, Lady Bracknell, but this engagement is quite out of the question. I am Miss Cardew’s guardian, and she cannot marry without my consent until she comes of age. That consent I absolutely decline to give.

Lady Bracknell. Upon what grounds may I ask? Algernon is an extremely, I may almost say an ostentatiously, eligible young man. He has nothing, but he looks everything. What more can one desire?

Jack. It pains me very much to have to speak frankly to you, Lady Bracknell, about your nephew, but the fact is that I do not approve at all of his moral character. I suspect him of being untruthful. [Algernon and Cecily look at him in indignant amazement.]

Lady Bracknell. Untruthful! My nephew Algernon? Impossible! He was at Oxford.

re: #37 iceweasel

Its my first time meeting the inlaws as her partner.
I was chitting myself, believe I made a good impression.

Except perhaps when I was carrying the first meal I prepared for them.
I was carrying it to the veranda, didn't see the fly-screen door, walked straight through it. fell on top of it.
Barely saved the shepards pie, and burnt both hands and forearms.

A good laugh followed...

Been mostly positive since then.

re: #34 iceweasel

Hey Handsome! What are you doing awake? And how is Winston? (loved your description of his fave sandwich, btw)
Congrats again on the new job..sounds amazing!

I took a nap..Working out the brackets for an amazing Basketball weekend..
Winston is sleeping..The life of a dog..
Yes.. You know who I work for...I'll be a system admin in a college town in a few months...A curve ball for me..But this is an exciting new opportunity for our company..Time to pack soon...We'll talk privately..But Singapore is still in play..But one year to set up a network with a major University.. Ludwig is going to be so pissed...
Charles will be like..Why are you posting from there?
I dunno Charles..Pure fucking luck?
I'm sorry..I'm jacked..

Gwendolen. I never change, except in my affections.

Cecily. What a noble nature you have, Gwendolen!

And so, good night!

Evening Cato,

I normally lurk, I have read most threadd over the past 12 months, always admired your wit and talent.

I'm peeking my head up now as its quiet.

You have made me look up many words.

A toast to all lizards, cheers.

Hoosier Hoops,

How long will you keep us in suspense? and congratulations...

re: #38 Cato the Elder

Jack. I beg your pardon for interrupting you, Lady Bracknell, but this engagement is quite out of the question. I am Miss Cardew’s guardian, and she cannot marry without my consent until she comes of age. That consent I absolutely decline to give.

Lady Bracknell. Upon what grounds may I ask? Algernon is an extremely, I may almost say an ostentatiously, eligible young man. He has nothing, but he looks everything. What more can one desire?

Jack. It pains me very much to have to speak frankly to you, Lady Bracknell, about your nephew, but the fact is that I do not approve at all of his moral character. I suspect him of being untruthful. [Algernon and Cecily look at him in indignant amazement.]

Lady Bracknell. Untruthful! My nephew Algernon? Impossible! He was at Oxford.

Heh.
Captain Blackadder: And then the final, irrefutable proof. Remember, you mentioned a clever boyfriend...
Nurse Mary: Yes.
Captain Blackadder: I then leapt on the opportunity to test you. I asked if he'd been to one of the great universities, Oxford, Cambridge, or Hull.
Nurse Mary: Well?
Captain Blackadder: You failed to spot that only two of those are great Universities.
Nurse Mary: Swine!
General Melchett: That's right! Oxford's a complete dump!

The Greeks learned that they had to aler the physical dimensions of their buildings to make them "look perfect" in our eyes. That is Art as a Lie: we need to have our reality distorted so we can perceive it as Truth.

The Impressionisits were the first to attemt to paint the world that reaches our eyes and not the world that exists outside us. That was the birth f "Modern Aer".

I little bit of music if I may.

Not sure how to post a youtube link as others do, if anyone knows would the let me know.

Thanks

re: #42 ozbloke

Evening Cato,

I normally lurk, I have read most threadd over the past 12 months, always admired your wit and talent.

I'm peeking my head up now as its quiet.

You have made me look up many words.

A toast to all lizards, cheers.

My pleasure.

I'll be here all century. Try the bailout halibut. And don't forget to tip your waitress!

Hannity vs. Schlussel. Fun for the whole family:

[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]

re: #47 Cato the Elder

I hope you have not been leading a double life, pretending to be wicked, and being really good all the time. That would be hypocrisy.

re: #33 iceweasel

The right-o-sphere is in full on rage-out/melt-down mode at this time. Just about anything is being published and regurgitated.

re: #43 ozbloke

Hoosier Hoops,

How long will you keep us in suspense? and congratulations...

Thank you..Everybody knows I was heading to the new Singapore office this fall..I got an email...
I'm going to admin a new network in a new startup.It's a quick start up for our Company...There are links already on the Internet about this..So it won't be long before it's public knowledge..
But..This is a state funded project with big bucks...I work for a top ten company in the world..A state funded project with big bucks from the state to bring us in..And we are fricking going in big time..There are links everywhere about it..I'll be linking publicity soon
So I need to setup the Network..I'm moving real soon.. But this is a win-win for state incentives..We will be hiring locally...

re: #48 Hector1980

Yeah, it's been discussed a bit around here. Mostly we just sit back, pop some popcorn, and watch the show.

re: #51 HoosierHoops

Heh, sounds like they'll keep you so busy you won't be getting into any trouble. Keep you pure... until you get to Singapore.

re: #51 HoosierHoops

That sounds great, I'm a small time ISP/Hosting and do sysadmin work for a small number of companies, I live in a small country town and are limited in where I can get work.

Hoping to get more remote admin work soon, been doing it for fifteen years but now find without and papers the resume doesn't impress much, so I have just completed two IT degrees, didn't learn anything new, but I now have some paper...

I started out with a BBS.

re: #50 freetoken

The right-o-sphere is in full on rage-out/melt-down mode at this time. Just about anything is being published and regurgitated.

Oh yeah. I did a little bouncing around out there-- virtually everyone is still running with the hoax memo. If they even bothered to correct their post on it, they buried the correction at the bottom of their post and didn't change their headline. NRO, powerline, Politico, everyone.
And in some cases they're saying the Dems performed the hoax to make the GOP 'look bad', or 'it's not a hoax but this is MeDiA coverup!'
I haven't even looked at the real nut sites yet, because the mainstream ones are in Full Metal Wingnut.

In other news, here is today's adventure in sexism:
Why are bloggers male?
Stunningly stupid. As a special bonus, it's difficult to say who she's more offensive to: men or women.

re: #53 freetoken

Heh, sounds like they'll keep you so busy you won't be getting into any trouble. Keep you pure... until you get to Singapore.

How exciting can it get when you know this summer I'll be posting from a college town?
I'm jacked..I need to check out what kind of Internet access they have locally..And Housing.We contract with a Realtor company. They find you a place to live and sell your house..My company sends a moving van and they pack everything and drive it to where ever and drop it off.
The most beautiful thing is...I'm moving closer to California. One year close to home...Drying eyes..Thank you Lord...

re: #54 ozbloke

That sounds great, I'm a small time ISP/Hosting and do sysadmin work for a small number of companies, I live in a small country town and are limited in where I can get work.

Hoping to get more remote admin work soon, been doing it for fifteen years but now find without and papers the resume doesn't impress much, so I have just completed two IT degrees, didn't learn anything new, but I now have some paper...

I started out with a BBS.

It's very nice meeting you.. My first BBS was Napa Vally on-line...I turned some heads and now work for a world class Corporation..
I love Tech..Don't get me started..*wink*

re: #57 HoosierHoops

And nice to meet you to, you seem to be someone who manages to avoid most of the conflicts here...

I remember when we could get mail from Rural NSW Australia to the UK in 36 hours guaranteed.

2400 baud modem, weren't we impressed.

re: #58 ozbloke

And nice to meet you to, you seem to be someone who manages to avoid most of the conflicts here...

I remember when we could get mail from Rural NSW Australia to the UK in 36 hours guaranteed.

2400 baud modem, weren't we impressed.

I remember when AOL charged you more to have a 9600 Baud Modem for downloads..Those bastards.. I'm glad their business model collapsed...

So we talked a few days ago about the crazy tea party-ish organisation that Clarence Thomas's wife has formed: LibertyCentral.

Guess what?

Virginia warns wife of Justice Clarence Thomas her group is violating law

Virginia consumer-protection officials have warned the wife of U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas that her advocacy group is improperly soliciting contributions in the state.

re: #59 HoosierHoops

You were lucky to get charged more...
In my day, we only had one telco, Telstra, and they weren't ISP's then.
I spent half my time trying to educate them.

In my best (the four yorkshiremen) accent :)

re: #61 ozbloke

You were lucky to get charged more...
In my day, we only had one telco, Telstra, and they weren't ISP's then.
I spent half my time trying to educate them.

In my best (the four yorkshiremen) accent :)

I love the old days of tech..It was so much fun...
I had no idea I'd be managing an OC12...

re: #60 iceweasel
Good Morning, Iceweasel.

I gather from other correspondences that either yourself or Jimmah, or both, are from Glasgow. As I'm from that city myself, I am interested to know if this is true.

re: #31 iceweasel

iceweasel,

Thanks you are right.
I joined before the rule came in, it was applied before I got to 50, didn't know it was rescinded.

Have a ding on me.

re: #62 HoosierHoops

Half your luck...

Seems most companies around here are looking for people in their 20's with degrees.

Too bad for this old dog.

America, the land of opportunity.

re: #64 ozbloke

iceweasel,

Thanks you are right.
I joined before the rule came in, it was applied before I got to 50, didn't know it was rescinded.

Have a ding on me.

Have a ding on me.. I checked my balance and I currently have over a trillion dings in my account...It's like magic..
*wink*

re: #58 ozbloke

And nice to meet you to, you seem to be someone who manages to avoid most of the conflicts here...

I remember when we could get mail from Rural NSW Australia to the UK in 36 hours guaranteed.

2400 baud modem, weren't we impressed.

I was there! Rocking the Atari ST with a 2400 baud modem when I was 13 years old :D

re: #66 HoosierHoops

Did you see this HH?
[Link: money.cnn.com...]

Bet they don't do that through a copper pair...

"Kinder, Gentler" Rick Scarborough Accuses Obama of Trying to "De-Christianize America"

Launches petition. Goldmine of wingnuttery: here's the end.

Whereas the president's actions noted above appear to be part of a deliberate campaign to de-Christianize America

Therefore, we the undersigned call on Congress to pass a resolution affirming that America is a nation founded on Judeo-Christian ideals and expressing its dismay over the president's actions which exalt Islam and atheism while slighting Christianity.

re: #69 iceweasel
Ah, glad you're still there, Iceweasel.

Did you see my earlier question, above ?

I’ve always thought that art is a lie, an interesting lie. And I’ll sort of listen to the “lie” and try to imagine the world which makes that lie true… what that world must be like, and what would have to happen for us to get from this world to that one.

Livin' a lie! Timmeh!

re: #67 WindUpBird

Hi WindUpBird,

I had a 520 and a 1040 but only for midi and music software.
Multi track recording without the tape...

commodore/dos/os2/nix for computing.

Can't imagine how much I've spent over the years.
First cdrom was over a grand from memory...

re: #65 ozbloke

Half your luck...

Seems most companies around here are looking for people in their 20's with degrees.

Too bad for this old dog.

America, the land of opportunity.

Back in the day...I first ran a windows 3.11 for workgroups in Blg.690 at Mare Island..None of those old fucks knew shit about applications...
When Clinton layed off 15,000 of us Nukes off...I thought my life was over...I had no idea. I got calls..I work for a high tech company in Silly Cone Valley...

re: #70 Pass The Moonbaticide

Hey there. Seems a little odd that someone who hasn't commented much and I don't remember having interaction with would pop in to ask such a question.
But the answer is no, I'm afraid.

re: #64 ozbloke

iceweasel,

Thanks you are right.
I joined before the rule came in, it was applied before I got to 50, didn't know it was rescinded.

Have a ding on me.

Thanks! back atcha.

re: #74 iceweasel
Oh Well ... I thought you were connected in some way with Jimmah, who I suspect is from Glasgow. He certainly uses UK spellings EG 'Colour'.

I don't tend to post much now, as I have other things to occupy me. Good to hear from you all the same. If not from Glasgow, where do you call home ?

You guys are making me feel REALLY young. My first vidya game system was an SNES.

re: #76 Pass The Moonbaticide

Oh Well ... I thought you were connected in some way with Jimmah, who I suspect is from Glasgow. He certainly uses UK spellings EG 'Colour'.

I don't tend to post much now, as I have other things to occupy me. Good to hear from you all the same. If not from Glasgow, where do you call home ?

We both use UK spellings. And terms, such as 'piss off', and 'wanker'.

re: #77 lazardo
I had one of the first Atari 2600 Video Cartridge systems in the UK. Remember the old wood cabinet one ?
The sprites seem so blocky now, but at the time it was astounding. How the games developers got their games onto the 4K (Yes - K ! ) roms I still marvel at.

re: #68 ozbloke

Did you see this HH?
[Link: money.cnn.com...]

Bet they don't do that through a copper pair...

Yes..
Cisco is still running the world with 1 GB switch ports..
I have walked down an island of nothing but Cisco Directors in the DataCenter...Pretty awesome..And blade servers in a 10,000 sq.ft room..
It's like..Fuck..This rocks...We found a new blade server that smokes HP..
HP can do about a 10 to 1 virtual server on each chip.. We found a new blade server that does a 35 to 1 server on each 8 core chip..
We are replacing every single blade server in the Datacenter...

re: #78 iceweasel
And I thought only MandyManners used those terms !

re: #69 iceweasel

The now over-used term "tipping point" comes to mind.

The nut-o-sphere is competing with themselves to see how far they can go.

re: #73 HoosierHoops

My partners brother in law is in silicone valley, hes from Scotland and is in the computer industry.
I believe he has been there for about 15-20 years, America has been good to him.

Me, I was brought up in what you would call ghettos, or housing tenements. I always swore I would not raise a family there when I grew up, so I have spent most of my adult life in rural Australia.

I found most people in Australia have time or money, me I wanted to watch my children grow, which I fortunately have done, I have a thirty year old son and a twenty five year old daughter, I also became a grandfather in January this year. My wife of almost twentyfive years passed away from cancer five years ago next month.

I have a new partner, a wonderful, beautiful and funny Scottish lady with two children a girl fifteen and a boy thirteen.
I have worked from home for twentysix years. I am very grateful.
Though now with a new family, it has become more important to earn again hence the new degrees.

Thanks for the chat.

re: #26 Gus 802

Drug sentencing disparity.

Michael Daley - A California trucker who was caught with 147 pounds of marijuana worth $516,000 in his rig on Route 80 in New Jersey was sentenced today to four years in state prison.

4 Years - 147 pounds with intention to distribute.

Jorge Enrique Rodriguez Mendieta - A top-ranking Colombian rebel was sentenced to more than 20 years in prison by a judge in New York on Friday for conspiring to import tons of cocaine into the United States.

20 Years - thousands of kilograms of cocaine and participating in the policy-making of the FARC.

Henry Walter Wooten - Last week, I wrote about a gentleman named Henry Walter Wooten, 54, who was handed a 35 year prison sentence in Tyler, Texas for being caught in a drug-free zone with just over four ounces of marijuana.

35 Years - 4 ounce possession.

I can remember the very first 'teens' (from the wrong side of the tracks, naturallly) who were caught with a few joints in Chicago in the late fifties. Their poor asses are probably still in prison.

re: #82 freetoken

The now over-used term "tipping point" comes to mind.

The nut-o-sphere is competing with themselves to see how far they can go.

Completely. Sheer insanity out there.

re: #77 lazardo

The first computer games I played were through DEC printers. Then onto the original dungeon game... which started with a prompt something like "You are standing outside of a building..."

re: #28 ozbloke

The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it.

13 more and I will be able to ding.
Evening.

Is that what you youngsters are calling it these days?

re: #83 ozbloke

Very nice chatting with you..
I'm so sorry about your wife..
God bless you brother

re: #83 ozbloke

My partners brother in law is in silicone valley,

That's the strip of Sunset Blvd. along the southern edge of BelAir, IIRC...

re: #89 freetoken

Where you whistle for a cab and when it comes near, the license plate says "FRESH" and there's dice in the mirror.

re: #88 HoosierHoops

And God bless you too.
Thanks too for taking over the prayer list...
I try to add a prayer when I see it posted, every little bit helps.

re: #87 ryannon

Hey ryannon,

I don't know, I thought they all spoke in tongues.

Its so hard to keep up, some kids in Australia speak like they do when their texting.
I think their talking about me.

re: #45 ralphieboy

The Impressionisits were the first to attemt to paint the world that reaches our eyes and not the world that exists outside us. That was the birth f "Modern Aer".

Oh! You Irish have such a way with words!

re: #83 ozbloke

Though now with a new family, it has become more important to earn again hence the new degrees.

Hope you will be able to find the job that rewards you well.

I know it is a challenge later in life to try and compete with the youngsters. Companies are weird - even though it has often been shown that older employees are more reliable and able to deal with misc challenges, there is a real discrimination on the part of many employers to look for the youngest new hire. Looking back I can see why - when I was half my current age I put up with lots of crap (in the job) that today I would recognize immediately as just that - crap.

re: #91 ozbloke

And God bless you too.
Thanks too for taking over the prayer list...
I try to add a prayer when I see it posted, every little bit helps.

Thank you...
It has been a humbling experience..There have been lizards asking for God's grace.. And I have gotten the emails of answers to prayer..
I don't know what to say..

re: #90 lazardo

Bel Air... home of faux gates, faux blonde hair, and faux... valleys...

re: #89 freetoken

Hi freetoken,

I wouldn't know, I have never been to the states.

I do hope to get their soon.
I cashed a US check the other day our Dollar was worth 94.99 US cents.

I don't remember a better exchange rate for me to travel or import from the US ever, I believe it to be the highest ever.

I would so love 12 months in the US to drive around your country.

re: #97 ozbloke

Let us hope you find your way here then. I'm writing this from Southern California... home of:

Swimmin pools, movie stars.

... and lots and lots of silicone.

re: #94 freetoken

Preach it brother, preach...
Can I have an amen.

I will be fine, I just need to get to the face to face interviews.
I have been self employed and had employees all my adult life.

What I cant seem to get is face to face interviews.
I sometimes wonder whether my resume is to long...

re: #99 ozbloke

Tell me about it. All during my life the biggest problem in getting the job is getting the face to face interview. Whenever I've gotten far enough for the actual employer to interview me I've done well... but getting through the screening devices (known as "Human Resources") is the tough part.

re: #98 freetoken

Oh and dont forget these :)

re: #99 ozbloke

Preach it brother, preach...
Can I have an amen.

I will be fine, I just need to get to the face to face interviews.
I have been self employed and had employees all my adult life.

What I cant seem to get is face to face interviews.
I sometimes wonder whether my resume is to long...

What am I going to do for you as a company?
Then reveal your plan..
It works everytime

re: #80 HoosierHoops

Yes..
Cisco is still running the world with 1 GB switch ports..
I have walked down an island of nothing but Cisco Directors in the DataCenter...Pretty awesome..And blade servers in a 10,000 sq.ft room..
It's like..Fuck..This rocks...We found a new blade server that smokes HP..
HP can do about a 10 to 1 virtual server on each chip.. We found a new blade server that does a 35 to 1 server on each 8 core chip..
We are replacing every single blade server in the Datacenter...

Could you send me the old ones, please?

Huh?

Please?

re: #102 HoosierHoops

Thanks HH,

The other thing I need to do is not laugh when I sit opposite some pimple faced kid :)

re: #98 freetoken

Oh and Flatt and Scruggs playing the banjo, so talented.
Steve Martin plays a great banjo too, funny man.

re: #105 ozbloke

Oh and Flatt and Scruggs playing the banjo, so talented.
Steve Martin plays a great banjo too, funny man.

Take some 'schrooms or whatever you guys do down there (no Fosters, please) listen to this, and report back to us...

re: #102 HoosierHoops

What am I going to do for you as a company?
Then reveal your plan..
It works everytime

That's kind of what I keep telling my guys (and girls) completing their Msc in 'Computer Science' here in France. I mean, what are you going to bring to a company that some guy in Bangalore can't do for a fourth of your salary?

It's all about added value today: meaning intelligence + creativity + initiative. And being better than the zillions of IT people being trained in China and India - and who are very sharp and would like nothing better than to eat your lunch.

Good Morning to the Lizard Nation.

Ice is still attracting trolls/socks I see.

Discussions about computers and the Olden Days (tm).

My first was an Apple IIe. Days spent playing Loderunner on that awesome green monochrome monitor.

re: #102 HoosierHoops

Hoops! Wife came out 21/32 for the opening bracket.

re: #108 rwdflynavy

Good Morning to the Lizard Nation.

Ice is still attracting trolls/socks I see.

Discussions about computers and the Olden Days (tm).

My first was an Apple IIe. Days spent playing Loderunner on that awesome green monochrome monitor.

Anybody want to buy a gently-used Apricot F1?

Image: apr-f10.jpg

I'll include two boxes of 3.5 floppies for free!

Image: apr-f10.jpg

re: #109 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hoops! Wife came out 21/32 for the opening bracket.

FBV,

MIL is visiting for my Change of Command. She is happy to be out of Big Lick for a while.

How's things?

re: #106 ryannon

Yes we have a sad history, not unlike the states in that respect.
They are the people who didn't count when we whities 'discovered' Australia.

So we 'coralled' them and taught them to be civilized apparently.

By the way, no one here drinks Fosters, we export that shit...

A selection of Aussie music for all.

Vince Jones Jazz

John Williamson Country

Tommy Emanuel Guitarist Extrordinaire

re: #112 ozbloke

Yes we have a sad history, not unlike the states in that respect.
They are the people who didn't count when we whities 'discovered' Australia.

So we 'coralled' them and taught them to be civilized apparently.

By the way, no one here drinks Fosters, we export that shit...

A selection of Aussie music for all.

Vince Jones Jazz

When I was on the Joint Staff in DC, I spent most of my time working Afghanistan issues, but I did have a blissful year as the Australia/NZ/Pacific Island Desk Officer. 3 trips down under! Saw quite a bit of Sydney and more than I wanted of Canberra.

Luv's me some VB and XXX and Tooey's New!!!

re: #111 rwdflynavy

Dandelions are sprouting, trees are budding, fucking birds won't stop singing.

re: #116 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Dandelions are sprouting, trees are budding, fucking birds won't stop singing.

You have the soul of a poet!
//

re: #115 rwdflynavy

Tooheys New is a great beer, real Australians drink it.
You may tell by how much Iv'e posted tonight the misses is away, its just me and some tooheys.

Canberra is a dreadful place, we keep all the politicians there away from the masses. It keeps the rest of us safe :)

Hope you enjoyed Sydney, good food and good beaches.

re: #118 ozbloke

Speaking of politicians, are they finally kicking Michael Atkinson to the curb?

re: #118 ozbloke

Tooheys New is a great beer, real Australians drink it.
You may tell by how much Iv'e posted tonight the misses is away, its just me and some tooheys.

Canberra is a dreadful place, we keep all the politicians there away from the masses. It keeps the rest of us safe :)

Hope you enjoyed Sydney, good food and good beaches.

I love telling Americans the story of how they picked the location for the capital. Correct if wrong: Sydney and Melbourne both wanted the honor so they picked a sheep pasture between the two and built a new city. Designed by an American architect IIRC.

re: #112 ozbloke

Yes we have a sad history, not unlike the states in that respect.
They are the people who didn't count when we whities 'discovered' Australia.

So we 'coralled' them and taught them to be civilized apparently.

By the way, no one here drinks Fosters, we export that shit...

A selection of Aussie music for all.

Vince Jones Jazz

I had an old friend from my NYC days who got into buying up vacant loft buildings in lower Manhattan in the late 60s when no one knew what to do with them. He kept on pyramiding his real-estate holdings into the 80s - when he ended up owning a lot of what's called the TriBeca area today. Then he went to Australia on some kind of a trip and told me he started crying when he saw Ayer's Rock - which led him to purchase one of Australia's biggest ranches. The kind of place where you needed a light airplane to get from one part to another. Then one day he literally 'gave it all back to the indians' - as we say in the U.S. Deeded the whole place back to the aboriginal tribes still living on 'his' land. Then he died.

May your spirit be in peace, Howard.

re: #119 lazardo

Hi Lazardo,

Michael Atkinson is a State politician, not Federal, he is the South Australian Attorney General.

I'm from NSW and don't know a lot about him as I live in New South Wales.

Interestingly though South Australia are having their State elections today, its now 10pm in SA and it looks as though Labor (left wing) will be returned with a reduced majority.

re: #116 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Dandelions are sprouting, trees are budding, fucking birds won't stop singing.

Because they don't give a shit about politics.

They're smarter than we are.

re: #123 ryannon

Because they don't give a shit about politics.

They're smarter than we are.

they care even less about healthcare...

re: #120 rwdflynavy

I believe you are correct the architect was Walter Burley Griffin from Chicago.

Creation of the Australian Capital Territory

The district's change from a New South Wales rural area to the national capital began during debates over Federation in the early 20th century. At the time, Melbourne was easily Australia's largest city and the obvious place for the capital. The western colonies—Western Australia, South Australia and Victoria—supported Melbourne. However, New South Wales (the largest colony) and (to a lesser extent) Queensland, favoured Sydney—which was older than Melbourne and the only other large city in Australia. Perhaps one or another of the two colonial capitals might have eventually been acceptable to the smaller states, but the Sydney-Melbourne rivalry was such that neither city would ever agree to the other one becoming capital.

Eventually, a compromise was reached: Melbourne would be the capital on a temporary basis while a new capital was built somewhere between Sydney and Melbourne. Section 125 of the Constitution specified that the capital must be placed in a Commonwealth territory within New South Wales but at least 100 miles from Sydney.

After an extensive search, the present site, about 300 kilometres south-west of Sydney in the foothills of the Australian Alps, was chosen in 1908 as a result of survey work done by Government Surveyor Charles Scrivener in that year[3]. Two people who campaigned strongly for the Federal capital to be in the Canberra area were John Gale, the publisher of The Queanbeyan Age and Federal politician King O'Malley. The choice of site was a disputed one, and narrowly beat Dalgety, a small town near the NSW/Victoria border.

The NSW government ceded the new Australian Capital Territory to the Commonwealth Government on January 1, 1910[4]. In that same year, the ACT became an alcohol-free area as a result of legislation that the Minister for Home Affairs King O'Malley ran through Federal Parliament in Melbourne (Ironically, a pub named after King O'Malley's was established in the city centre of Canberra during the 1990s).

re: #124 rwdflynavy

they care even less about healthcare...

Matthew 6:26:

"Look at the birds of the air: they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they?"

Now that you mention it, Matt, I'm beginning to have my doubts.

re: #121 ryannon

ryannon,

What a wonderful story, bless him.

We have been reluctantly been slowly giving our Aboriginal people some land back. Mostly crappy land as we built on the best.

Here is some history for those interested.

Morning Honcos. I am glad winter is over. I am also happy it lasted so long. Nice temps until at least April. :)

One can acquire everything in solitude - except character.
-- Marie Henri Beyle

re: #128 Cannadian Club Akbar

Now, I need to prepare to DIE!! Bwhahahaha!!!
[Link: weatherforecasting.suite101.com...]

Morning Lizards.

Sometimes you just want a refund.

Yah, it's been one of those kinda days.

Soft-breathing Spring! how many pleasant thoughts, how many
delightful recollections does thy name awaken in the mind of a
traveller! Whether he has followed thee by the banks of the Loire or
the Guadalquivir, or traced thy footsteps, slowly climbing the sunny
slope of Alp or Appenine, the thought of thee shall summon up sweet
visions of the past, and thy golden sunshine, and soft, vapory
atmosphere become a portion of his day dreams and of him. Sweet images
of thee, and scenes that have oft inspired the poet's song, shall
mingle in his recollections of the past. The shooting of the tender
leaf, -- the sweetness and elasticity of the air, -- the blue sky and
the fleet-drifting cloud, and the flocks of wild fowl, wheeling in
long phalanx through the air, and screaming from their dizzy height,
-- all these shall pass like a dream before his imagination,
`And gently o'er his memory come at times
A glimpse of joys, that had their birth in thee,
Like a brief strain of some forgotten tune.'

-- Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, Outre-Mer, Volume 2 (1833)

Today is the 15th anniversary of the Aum Shinrikyo sarin gas attack in Japanese subways.

re: #131 Bubblehead II

Morning Lizards.

Sometimes you just want a refund.

Yah, it's been one of those kinda days.

Look on the bright side. You have a freezer full of chicken/pork/beef.:)

The fact that I am not a millionaire aristocrat with the sexual capacity of a rutting rhino is a constant niggle.

Its late here in Oz, I bid you aduei

re: #130 Cannadian Club Akbar

Now, I need to prepare to DIE!! Bwhahahaha!!!
[Link: weatherforecasting.suite101.com...]

No one remembers when they are wrong about predicting a busy hurricane season. But everyone would throw it back in their faces if they were wrong about predicting a mild season. So... I think the neatest dodge they came up with was the year they predicted "near above average" hurricane activity. Wasn't "normal" good enough?

re: #136 The Sanity Inspector

No one remembers when they are wrong about predicting a busy hurricane season. But everyone would throw it back in their faces if they were wrong about predicting a mild season. So... I think the neatest dodge they came up with was the year they predicted "near above average" hurricane activity. Wasn't "normal" good enough?

Hey, I can tell you who will win the World Series. Check back again after the All Star break, though.

re: #133 The Sanity Inspector

Did they ever carry out the death penalty sentence for that attack?

re: #138 Bubblehead II

Did they ever carry out the death penalty sentence for that attack?

Does Japan have a death penalty?

re: #134 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yeah, but it's all freezer burned.

re: #131 Bubblehead II

Morning Lizards.

Sometimes you just want a refund.

Yah, it's been one of those kinda days.

Better than several of those kinda years

re: #138 Bubblehead II

Did they ever carry out the death penalty sentence for that attack?

Not yet, SFAIK.

re: #139 Cannadian Club Akbar

They were supposed to hang him and 9 others.

"Eventually ten Aum members, including founder Shoko Asahara, were sentenced to hang for a series of crimes committed by the cult, including the murder of a lawyer’s family and a deadly sarin attack in summer 1994 in Matsumoto, Nagano Prefecture."

re: #141 ryannon

Ya lost me there.

re: #142 The Sanity Inspector

Not yet, SFAIK.

All the people who actually released the sarin had some form of degree. Wow.

re: #138 Bubblehead II

Did they ever carry out the death penalty sentence for that attack?

Sentenced to death, still awaiting justice.

re: #146 SixDegrees

Though I suspect the penalty is something he'd carry out himself.

Culture thing.

re: #147 lazardo

Though I suspect the penalty is something he'd carry out himself.

Culture thing.

If that whole "suicide with honor" thing is in play - and who the hell knows what goes on in the mind of someone like that? - then depriving him of that option is as bad or worse than the execution.

re: #148 SixDegrees

If that whole "suicide with honor" thing is in play - and who the hell knows what goes on in the mind of someone like that? - then depriving him of that option is as bad or worse than the execution.

I say, give him a knife and a rope. Let his destiny be complete.

re: #149 Cannadian Club Akbar

I say, give him a knife and a rope. Let his destiny be complete.

I was thinking along similar lines. I'd say there's a very good chance he wouldn't be able to off himself, which would sink his reputation several notches. Apparently, he still has followers out there.

re: #147 lazardo

Fine, give him the knife/sword. Want to lay odds that he doesn't have the true Bushido spirit to do it? I have noticed that those who send others out to sacrifice their lives, don't seem to have the same convictions to do the same.

Then again. Maybe I am just being cynical.

re: #150 SixDegrees

I was thinking along similar lines. I'd say there's a very good chance he wouldn't be able to off himself, which would sink his reputation several notches. Apparently, he still has followers out there.

Do ya think Charles Manson still has a cult following?

re: #144 Bubblehead II

Ya lost me there.

Just as well.

But it's still a fine and rare 80s duet with Todd Rundgren.

re: #152 Cannadian Club Akbar

Do ya think Charles Manson still has a cult following?

Don't know about a cult following but I know he has a fan club judging by some of the t-shirts I've seen.

re: #152 Cannadian Club Akbar

Do ya think Charles Manson still has a cult following?

Definitely.

re: #151 Bubblehead II

You mean like Islamofascist who use kids with Down's Syndrome to carry out suicide attacks?

re: #152 Cannadian Club Akbar

Do ya think Charles Manson still has a cult following?

A couple of the original "family" members that have been released still hang on his every word, I believe. And I'm sure there's a bowl full of nuts out there who do, too.

I wonder if Ebay has any old 45 records of Manson.

re: #157 SixDegrees

A couple of the original "family" members that have been released still hang on his every word, I believe. And I'm sure there's a bowl full of nuts out there who do, too.

There's a fan club.

You can even write to Charlie in prison.

re: #158 Cannadian Club Akbar

I wonder if Ebay has any old 45 records of Manson.

I used to have the LP he cut before the murders.

It was the sort of thing that made you feel not good when listening to it.

Morning all.

re: #160 ryannon

I used to have the LP he cut before the murders.

It was the sort of thing that made you feel not good when listening to it.

You didn't feel good because you didn't drop any acid.

re: #159 ryannon

There's a fan club.

You can even write to Charlie in prison.

Ewww.

Although, I guess there's an upside to the Internet presence. At least it's possible to keep track of who's visiting such sites, and decide whether they need further attention.

And I'm pretty certain the prison records the addresses of all incoming and outgoing mail.

Just an off topic comment in an open thread (wrap your heads around that one).

Charles, Could/Would you please get rid of the automatic HTTP// in the link box? It's a pain in the ass to have to delete it every time you go to to post a link.

Thx

Manson was pre death penalty, correct?

re: #165 Cannadian Club Akbar

Manson was pre death penalty, correct?

He got the death penalty. His sentence was changed to life when the death penalty was revoked. IIRC

re: #165 Cannadian Club Akbar

Manson was pre death penalty, correct?

No. He was sentenced to death, then the law was changed and he was given a reprieve as a result.

Why he wasn't un-reprieved when the death penalty was instituted again, I have no idea.

re: #21 HoosierHoops

You know what pisses me off?
One day you are watching the cutest little actress Dakota Fanning in a movie and the next day she is playing a drug addled teen rocker in runaway..
Where did the time go?
It's like kids..one day you are playing on the court teaching them Basketball..Then the next day they call you from a rooftop in Iraq from a Sat phone..

If Hoops is still around, Is your boy still in Iraq?

re: #159 ryannon

There's a fan club.

You can even write to Charlie in prison.

There is no shortage of merchandise online either.

re: #162 Cannadian Club Akbar

You didn't feel good because you didn't drop any acid.

I had dropped acid before. Enough to know what a bad trip it would have been listening to that record on it. It was very dark; not coming from a good place in the soul at all.

re: #165 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yes, irrc. Then Ca, abolished the DP and he and the rest were remanded to life.

VA put a monster in the chair thursday, a good ol' fashioned electric chair. I hope his head caught fire:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

re: #172 RogueOne

VA put a monster in the chair thursday, a good ol' fashioned electric chair. I hope his head caught fire:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

They stopped using the chair in Florida because a guys head caught fire. Now lawyers are trying to say lethal injection is cruel and unusual punishment. I would like to ask these lawyers what wouldn't be cruel and unusual and try their way.

re: #172 RogueOne

VA put a monster in the chair thursday, a good ol' fashioned electric chair. I hope his head caught fire:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Yeah, saw that. A really stupid asshole, too; he got off during his first trial, then bragged about the crime to investigators, thinking he couldn't be tried again. BZZZ! WRONG! Thanks for the written confession, presented in enough detail that even MORE incriminating evidence was found. R-tard.

Ya gotta wonder - were the guards and execution personnel snickering when he was brought in and seated?

re: #173 Cannadian Club Akbar

They stopped using the chair in Florida because a guys head caught fire. Now lawyers are trying to say lethal injection is cruel and unusual punishment. I would like to ask these lawyers what wouldn't be cruel and unusual and try their way.

I remember the governor at the time saying he didn't want to fix the chair because it may deter crime.

re: #172 RogueOne

VA put a monster in the chair thursday, a good ol' fashioned electric chair. I hope his head caught fire:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

You get to choose in Virginia.

re: #170 ryannon

I had dropped acid before. Enough to know what a bad trip it would have been listening to that record on it. It was very dark; not coming from a good place in the soul at all.

Speaking of bad trips. Imagine dosing then seeing this...

re: #176 NJDhockeyfan

You get to choose in Virginia.

[Link: www.prodeathpenalty.com...]

re: #174 SixDegrees

I go back and forth on the death penalty. I would be all for it if I had enough faith in the state to not put an innocent person to death. In this case, there isn't any doubt and his ass had it coming. Too bad they couldn't have found a way to terrify him as much as his victim had to have been before she bled to death.

That sounds a little harsh but if there were a hell I think rapists deserve their own special level of torment.

My girlfriend, my cat and I arrived in Los Angeles the evening of the Tate murders by Manson's followers. We had some problems getting into the condo apartment in West Hollywood that the record company I was working for was putting us up in. A really nice guy we got into a conversation with at the pool got involved in helping us out. To the point where he mentioned that he figured it was not worth driving up to Coldwater Canyon for an evening at a friend's place.

The next day the guy told us that we had saved his life: his friend was Sharon Tate. His name was Tab Hunter.

True story.

re: #175 NJDhockeyfan

I remember the governor at the time saying he didn't want to fix the chair because it may deter crime.

I don't recall that.

re: #173 Cannadian Club Akbar

They stopped using the chair in Florida because a guys head caught fire. Now lawyers are trying to say lethal injection is cruel and unusual punishment. I would like to ask these lawyers what wouldn't be cruel and unusual and try their way.

Human reaction time is roughly on the order of 1/100th of a second - actually, it isn't that good, but let's be generous. If a human head is a foot wide (again, a gross overestimate, but it works in the victim's favor) then a piston traveling at ~70 mph would traverse the entire width of the head in less time than any sensation of it would take to register. So some kind of large pile-driver ought to do the trick, maybe tweaked out to get it up to around 100 mph or so.

Honestly, I'm not a big fan of the death penalty. But there are a rare handful of cases where it's more than justified. The fucker in VA, referenced above, who raped two young girls, murdered one of them and then bragged about it would certainly qualify.

re: #181 Cannadian Club Akbar

I don't recall that.

I read it in the Washington Post. It was early 90s I believe.

re: #179 RogueOne

I go back and forth on the death penalty. I would be all for it if I had enough faith in the state to not put an innocent person to death. In this case, there isn't any doubt and his ass had it coming. Too bad they couldn't have found a way to terrify him as much as his victim had to have been before she bled to death.

That sounds a little harsh but if there were a hell I think rapists deserve their own special level of torment.

I agree. Unfortunately, there's ample evidence that the judicial system has incarcerated not just one or two rare exceptions by accident, but hundreds - possibly thousands. And some were sentenced to the death penalty. There is no doubt that innocent people have been killed by the state. At least, if they're still alive, the state can be shamed into some sort of cash settlement, although no amount would be sufficient to make up for the decades of imprisonment some of these folks have experienced.

Like I said above, however, there are those clear exceptions who keep me from joining the complete opposition camp.

re: #183 NJDhockeyfan

I read it in the Washington Post. It was early 90s I believe.

I think the gubner then was Lawton Chiles. I think Jeb got elected in 1998.

re: #177 NJDhockeyfan

Speaking of bad trips. Imagine dosing then seeing this...

[Video]

More likely uncontrollable laughter.

But I always liked Dick Cavett. He was a Yalie and a gentleman.

Well it is time to take my butt off to bed.

Lizards, May you have a good day.

From an Atheist no less.

((Ladies)) as well as a (redundant) XOXO

Forget them (The Ladies) at your own peril Gentlemen.

Night All

ahoy ahoy.

re: #185 Cannadian Club Akbar

I think the gubner then was Lawton Chiles. I think Jeb got elected in 1998.

I was wrong. The electric chair went out with Jeb Bush.

I spent most of last evening converting my abbott and costello dvd collection into a format I can take on the road/stream. Now I'm in the mood to watch one, decisions, decisions.

It ain't no use in turnin' on your light babe,
A light I never knowed,
It ain't no use in turnin' on your light babe,
I'm on the dark side of the road...

Good Morning LGF

re: #182 SixDegrees

Human reaction time is roughly on the order of 1/100th of a second - actually, it isn't that good, but let's be generous. If a human head is a foot wide (again, a gross overestimate, but it works in the victim's favor) then a piston traveling at ~70 mph would traverse the entire width of the head in less time than any sensation of it would take to register. So some kind of large pile-driver ought to do the trick, maybe tweaked out to get it up to around 100 mph or so.

Honestly, I'm not a big fan of the death penalty. But there are a rare handful of cases where it's more than justified. The fucker in VA, referenced above, who raped two young girls, murdered one of them and then bragged about it would certainly qualify.

Large pile-driver with sharp blade: the guillotine.

re: #190 RogueOne

I spent most of last evening converting my abbott and costello dvd collection into a format I can take on the road/stream. Now I'm in the mood to watch one, decisions, decisions.

Meet Frankenstein

re: #192 ryannon

Large pile-driver with sharp blade: the guillotine.

Weren't the French in love with the guillotine until Marie Antoinette got it? I might be thinking wrong.

re: #189 Cannadian Club Akbar

I was wrong. The electric chair went out with Jeb Bush.

A little history on that.

...Not until late in 1986 did Texas overtake Florida in the body count sweepstakes.

All that time, Florida was happily using its vintage electric chair, Old Sparky (one of several electric chairs with that moniker), built in 1923 of 100% oak wood and prison labor. And the more the chair’s quasi-medieval ickiness drove other states to lethal injection, the more Floridians cherished electrocution.

Law-and-order Tampa mayor Bob Martinez won the governorship in 1986 on the promise that “Florida’s electric bill will go up.” There was a high-profile botch in 1990, and another in 1997 — flames shooting from the inmates’ heads. What was the state’s Attorney General going to do about it? “People who wish to commit murder, they’d better not do it in the state of Florida because we may have a problem with the electric chair.” Under pressure to move to lethal injection — the chair’s unsightly malfunctions were spawning legal and public relations nightmares that were gumming up the gears — the legislature voted nearly unanimously to keep Old Sparky.

And then along came a giant.

After three-quarters of a century and 266 jobs, Old Sparky was “falling apart” … and that was going to be a problem for a man of Davis’ carriage.

The killer’s lawyers argued that Davis was so fat he couldn’t conduct electricity efficiently and would be slowly cooked to death. According to Slate, Florida authorities were nervous that he’d break the chair during his electrocution and send a disconnected live cable scything into someone else in the room.

It was time for the unthinkable: Florida retired Old Sparky and built a new chair … and supersized it.

And it worked, in that it killed Tiny. But what a mess — especially when an ensuing Florida Supreme Court opinion once again upheld the constitutionality of electrocution, and a dissenting judge attached the photos on this page to his opinions. Naturally, they became a grisly Internet sensation.

Old Sparky’s custom-built successor would only manage this single execution before Florida finally got on the lethal injection bandgurney.

Or at least, it’s only managed one so far. Old electric chairs don’t die, they just fade away … and in Florida, Tiny Davis’s chair remains available for condemned prisoners who choose it. Since this date in 1999, none have.

re: #192 ryannon

Large pile-driver with sharp blade: the guillotine.

Pretty much. Although I suppose someone could argue that there's that fleeting "WTF?!" moment before plunging blood pressure renders you unconscious. Turning the entire brain into puree in a fraction of a second works around this problem, although you'd probably need a splash guard or something.

re: #194 Cannadian Club Akbar

Weren't the French in love with the guillotine until Marie Antoinette got it? I might be thinking wrong.

No - believe it or not, they continued using it right up to the late fifties or early sixties. Public executions in the prison courtyard and all.

re: #194 Cannadian Club Akbar

Weren't the French in love with the guillotine until Marie Antoinette got it? I might be thinking wrong.

It was used, I believe, up through the 1930s.

re: #193 Spare O'Lake

Meet Frankenstein

I just watched that last month, it might be my favorite. I'm leaning towards Meet Dr. Jeckyll/Mr. Hyde this time.

re: #195 NJDhockeyfan

Thanks.

Either Dr. Jeckyll or the Foreign Legion. Coin flip time.

re: #199 RogueOne

I just watched that last month, it might be my favorite. I'm leaning towards Meet Dr. Jeckyll/Mr. Hyde this time.

"Gentlemen, allow me to introduce myself...I'm the Invisible Man."

re: #201 RogueOne

Either Dr. Jeckyll or the Foreign Legion. Coin flip time.

Tales for Foreign Legion.

re: #198 SixDegrees

It was used, I believe, up through the 1930s.

"The guillotine remained the official method of execution in France until France abolished the death penalty in 1981.[13] The last guillotining in France was that of torture-murderer Hamida Djandoubi on 10 September 1977."

And there you go.

re: #204 ryannon

"The guillotine remained the official method of execution in France until France abolished the death penalty in 1981.[13] The last guillotining in France was that of torture-murderer Hamida Djandoubi on 10 September 1977."

And there you go.

Damn. I'm surprised it was used that recently.

re: #20 ryannon

Special upding for non-Commedia Dante. What is the film that is wrapped around the opera clip?

re: #205 SixDegrees

The French are not as lilly livered as people lead you to belive.

They have a hard of nails streak that it takes a lot to really get going - but by god it's there.

Karloff won out. The DVD version was surprisingly nice quality. The conversions came out looking great.

On another topic: did something change in Congress' credit card and bank legislation that made posting periods more lenient? I used to see charges and checks show up in my online statements very quickly - the same day or the next with credit card purchases, and less than a week for mailed checks. Now, it's suddenly taking well over a week for CC charges to show up, and a couple weeks for checks.

This is annoying, because I like to check my credit card balance online and pay the entire thing off, not just the portion on my statement, every month.

Why would a system that's almost completely automated be taking longer to process?

Adam Putnam is on my radio. He was elected to Congress at age 26. He backed this story.
[Link: finance.yahoo.com...]

You gotta be kidding me.

Corrie's sister to Haaretz: U.S. encouraged family to sue Israel

This is Sarah Corrie Simpson's first visit to Israel. Her younger sister, Rachel Corrie, was killed by an Israel Defense Forces bulldozer in Gaza in 2003, at the age of 23. Now, the family is suing the state in the Haifa District Court.

"I'm glad the day is finally here, that the eyewitnesses are having a chance to talk in a court of law," she said in an interview with Haaretz on Thursday. "It's been seven long years."

...Asked whether the family was getting support from the U.S. government, Simpson said it was a U.S. government official who first encouraged them to sue the Israeli government.

The family has met with many senior American officials, she added, and more than 70 congressmen signed a letter demanding a serious investigation.

re: #206 Decatur Deb

Special upding for non-Commedia Dante. What is the film that is wrapped around the opera clip?

As strange as it may seem, it's "Hannibal" - one of the most grisly of the Hannibal Lecter series. The aria was commissioned especially for the film and remains a minor artistic miracle - as does the acting in the scene itself.

Boy oh boy...watching Obama and the Dems futzing around with this HRC thing is like pulling teeth.

re: #211 NJDhockeyfan

The family has met with many senior American officials, she added, and more than 70 congressmen signed a letter demanding a serious investigation.

I'd like to know that list of names.

re: #196 SixDegrees

Pretty much. Although I suppose someone could argue that there's that fleeting "WTF?!" moment before plunging blood pressure renders you unconscious. Turning the entire brain into puree in a fraction of a second works around this problem, although you'd probably need a splash guard or something.

Yikes:

Living heads

Execution of Languille in 1905

From its first use, there has been debate as to whether the guillotine always provided as swift a death as Guillotin hoped. With previous methods of execution, there was little concern about the suffering inflicted. As the guillotine was invented specifically to be "humane", however, the issue was seriously considered. Furthermore, there is the possibility that the very swiftness of the guillotine only prolonged the victim's suffering. The blade cuts quickly enough so that there is relatively little impact on the brain case, and perhaps less likelihood of immediate unconsciousness than with a more violent decapitation, or long-drop hanging.
Audiences to guillotinings told numerous stories of blinking eyelids, speaking, moving eyes, movement of the mouth, even an expression of "unequivocal indignation" on the face of the decapitated Charlotte Corday when her cheek was slapped. Anatomists and other scientists in several countries have tried to perform more definitive experiments on severed human heads as recently as 1956. Inevitably, the evidence is only anecdotal. What appears to be a head responding to the sound of its name, or to the pain of a pinprick, may be only random muscle twitching or automatic reflex action, with no awareness involved. At worst, it seems that the massive drop in cerebral blood pressure would cause a victim to lose consciousness in several seconds.[17]
The following report was written by a Dr. Beaurieux, who experimented with the head of a condemned prisoner by the name of Henri Languille, on 28 June 1905:
Here, then, is what I was able to note immediately after the decapitation: the eyelids and lips of the guillotined man worked in irregularly rhythmic contractions for about five or six seconds. This phenomenon has been remarked by all those finding themselves in the same conditions as myself for observing what happens after the severing of the neck …
I waited for several seconds. The spasmodic movements ceased. […] It was then that I called in a strong, sharp voice: "Languille!" I saw the eyelids slowly lift up, without any spasmodic contractions – I insist advisedly on this peculiarity – but with an even movement, quite distinct and normal, such as happens in everyday life, with people awakened or torn from their thoughts.
Next Languille's eyes very definitely fixed themselves on mine and the pupils focused themselves. I was not, then, dealing with the sort of vague dull look without any expression, that can be observed any day in dying people to whom one speaks: I was dealing with undeniably living eyes which were looking at me. After several seconds, the eyelids closed again […].
It was at that point that I called out again and, once more, without any spasm, slowly, the eyelids lifted and undeniably living eyes fixed themselves on mine with perhaps even more penetration than the first time. Then there was a further closing of the eyelids, but now less complete. I attempted the effect of a third call; there was no further movement – and the eyes took on the glazed look which they have in the dead.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #211 NJDhockeyfan

"encouraged" is not a direct quote - and there is no detailed discussion of the process that brought her to the point oof lega action from the perspective of the US Govt.

If she is talking to someone through state who mentions (as a matter of course) that suing is an option...

Also - if trhere are witnesses and the driver did see her and the area was not "hot" - it has to go to due process, imho.

Anyways, footballs on, BBL.

Fund-Raiser for Obama and Clinton Admits Fraud

A wealthy businessman who raised money for leading Democratic Party politicians, including Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, pleaded guilty on Thursday to defrauding three major banks out of $292.2 million in loan transactions, Reuters reported.

Hassan Nemazee, 60, who once ran a private equity firm, admitted in Manhattan federal court to defrauding Bank of America of more than $142 million, Citigroup of $74.9 million and HSBC Holdings of $74.9 million to pay his debt to Citigroup.

During the plea proceeding, Mr. Nemasee, an Iranian-born investor who owned several multimillion-dollar properties and had interests in various companies and hedge funds, said he had tried to get out of financial difficulty starting in the 1990s, but that “the hole that I dug was larger and I borrowed more.”

Mr. Nemazee was listed as one of the top “bundlers” of contributions to Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign, according to OpenSecrets.org, a Web site run by the Center for Responsive Politics. He typically donated more than $100,000 annually to Democratic Party political candidates, including Obama and Hillary Clinton, now the secretary of state, Reuters said.

Whoops!

re: #216 wozzablog

I thought they were knocking down the house of a suicide bomber.

re: #212 ryannon

Ladies who have intelligence in love,
I would speak of my lady to your ear.
Though well I know her sum of praise could ne'er
Be ended ; but to give some utterance meet
To ease the mind — I say her worth above
All other greatness fills me with such fire
Of love, that did not failing forces tire
Speaking, I should bring all men to her feet.
Not now in such a lofty guise I treat ;
Lest all too mean for song so high I prove,
But rather of the gentle state I love,
With softer tones will sing, oh ladies sweet.
Ladies and maidens gentle-souled, as who
Could speak on such a theme to only you.
...

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re: #220 Decatur Deb

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Sandra Bullock and Jesse James split: Mistress' Nazi Swastika photos

TMZ.com reports today, Friday, that Michelle "Bombshell" Mcgee, Jesse James' alleged mistress, had photos taken of her wearing what is a Nazi bikini complete with a Swastika arm band, causing many to wonder if she's a White Supremacist. Moreover, the photos were apparently presented to TMZ by Ms. McGee's ex-husband.

The photos were taken over a year ago. One of them has Michelle "Bombshell" Mcgee licking a long knife (you can see this in the video) and the other posing with a long rifle of some kind. Did Jesse James know about this? What does Jesse James think of this? Moreover, what does Sandra Bullock think about this, after the split?

Is Michelle "Bombshell" Mcgee a White Supremacist?

re: #225 NJDhockeyfan

Sandra Bullock and Jesse James split: Mistress' Nazi Swastika photos

That chick is a skank.

re: #226 Cannadian Club Akbar

That chick is a skank.

Totally agree. It looks like she's got eleven-foot pole marks all over her.

I posted the other day about people getting DUI's for falling asleep in Taco Bell drive through. Well, at least this wasn't Taco Bell.

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re: #226 Cannadian Club Akbar

That chick is a skank.

And he chose that skank over Sandra Bullock. What an idiot.

re: #229 NJDhockeyfan

And he chose that skank over Sandra Bullock. What an idiot.

But, but, he said he is sorry. I'll add him to my Dbag list.

re: #222 ryannon

Thanks, favorited. There is a similar use of song at the end of Oshii's cyber sci-fi "Avalon". I've never found that music, seems to be original to the film.

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re: #230 Cannadian Club Akbar

But, but, he said he is sorry.

We're so sorry Uncle Albert
We're so sorry if we caused you any pain
We're so sorry Uncle Albert
But there's no one left at home
And I believe I'm gonna rain
We're so sorry but we haven't heard a thing all day
We're so Sorry Uncle Albert
But if anything should happen we'll be sure to give a ring

Arrest Made in Wal-Mart Intercom Case

A man has been arrested for allegedly announcing a hateful message over a South Jersey Wal-Mart's intercom, police told NBC Philadelphia.

The unidentified man, who is from Atlantic County, N.J., was taken into custody Friday evening, police said.

Officials are staying tight-lipped on the arrest, but more details are expected to be released at a press conference Saturday.

Several shoppers have been boycotting the retailer since last Sunday when a man accessed the Washington Township, N.J. store's public address system and announced: "Attention Wal-Mart customers: All black people leave the store now."

Good news for us. I love Caterpillar toys.
[Link: beforeitsnews.com...]

re: #227 SixDegrees

Totally agree. It looks like she's got eleven-foot pole marks all over her.

That's funny. Good morning, everyone. My guess is this woman will need to make as much money as she can from this scandal, because she's going to have a hell of a tattoo-removal bill in a couple of years.

...since last Sunday when a man accessed the Washington Township, N.J. store's public address system...

Accessed the Public Address System! The horror!!!

I mean, how many times have you seen the phone mounted on the column with a list of codes next to it. All you have to do is lift the handset, dial 36# and start talking.

The police are making an outrageous outrage over a moron who decided to act moronic. *Rolls eyes*

re: #236 darthstar

That's funny. Good morning, everyone. My guess is this woman will need to make as much money as she can from this scandal, because she's going to have a hell of a tattoo-removal bill in a couple of years.

Most people like Sandra Bullock. This woman's life is gonna be hell. Heh.

re: #231 Decatur Deb

Thanks, favorited. There is a similar use of song at the end of Oshii's cyber sci-fi "Avalon". I've never found that music, seems to be original to the film.

[Video]

Here's a start in tracking it down:

Avalon
The OST for Avalon featured songs sung only in Polish, telling the story of the mystical land Avalon. Works were performed by the Polish National Philharmonic Orkiestre, Choir of Philharmonic Orkiestre, and solo parts by opera singer Elzbieta Towarnicka (Elizabeth Towarnicka). There are a few songs of joyful mood, "Log in" or "Voyage to Avalon" for example, but also traditional instrumental songs with drums and electronic music.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #238 Cannadian Club Akbar

Most people like Sandra Bullock. This woman's life is gonna be hell. Heh.

I love Sandra Bullock...always have. She also won a Razzie for 'Worst Actress' this year...and showed up in person to accept it. Nobody else does that. Great attitude, fun to watch. Sorry her husband turned out to be a dick.

Blame the rich for everything!

"Many of the people bringing it back (swine flu) were well off people who had been to fancy places on holiday," said Prof Davies

Boy oh boy...with all the contortions Obama and the Dems are performing in order to ram through the HRC bill, I hope chiropractic adjustment is included under their taxpayer funded health plans.

re: #240 darthstar

She married Jesse James and didn't see this coming?

If you guys could spend the weekend with Bullock or the skank, you would really pick Sandra?

re: #241 SteveC

Blame the rich for everything!

I can't recall. Did hundreds of thousands of people die from the pig flu? No? OK.

And this fresh off the newswire...

Democrats can't count!

The Congressional Budget Office said Friday that rolling back a programmed cut in Medicare fees to doctors would cost $208 billion over 10 years. If added back to the health care overhaul bill, it would wipe out all the deficit reduction, leaving the legislation $59 billion in the red.

re: #243 RogueOne

She married Jesse James and didn't see this coming?

If you guys could spend the weekend with Bullock or the skank, you would really pick Sandra?

You don't just spend a weekend with Sandra.

re: #243 RogueOne

She married Jesse James and didn't see this coming?

If you guys could spend the weekend with Bullock or the skank, you would really pick Sandra?

ON YOUR KNEES!

re: #231 Decatur Deb

And you might be able to find the tracks you want on a torrent site like this:

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re: #243 RogueOne

She married Jesse James and didn't see this coming?

If you guys could spend the weekend with Bullock or the skank, you would really pick Sandra?