Frank Zappa Marvel Comics Ad, 1968

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One of the reasons I’m visiting family this week is to determine the value of a trove of 1960s era comic books that my mom kept in a sealed wooden crate for more than 40 years. My brother and I have been amazed at the almost new condition of a lot of the books.

And here’s an interesting bit of 60s trivia; in a few issues of some of the Marvel comics, we’ve discovered the following advertisement for Frank Zappa’s Mothers of Invention and their new album, “We’re Only In It For the Money.” I’d totally forgotten about this one.

This ad was in Daredevil #38, from March 1968. Check out the condition of this book; it looks like it just came off the rack in a store.

Probably the most valuable book we’ve found so far is this one: X-Men #1. Even in its somewhat beat-up state, it’s still worth quite a bit of money. (Certainly more than 12 cents.) The interior is completely intact, the inks are still bright, and the paper is only slightly yellowed.

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Digital Display Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:00:21am

Wow! Awesome Charles...
I can't believe I trashed Mickey Mantles Rookie Baseball card in my bike spokes..If I kept all those baseball cards I'd be a Millionaire right now..Who knew?

Buck Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:01:00am

Ebay!

cenotaphium Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:01:51am

X-Men #1?

Now I'm seriously jealous. I'd go as high as 10 times the cover value.. ;)

Buck Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:03:57am

I threw out my comic book collection, but sold a friends Matchbox car collection on eBay...

Some of the toys, which were bought for .10, sold for $600- $800

Youtube Video

albusteve Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:04:40am

"thrilling, clean fun!"
I love it

Van Helsing Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:08:34am

"Thrilling, clean fun" is not what I think of when I think of Frank Zappa.
Probably something to do with the "Fillmore '72" album being the first one I heard.

I miss Frank, but did see Dweezil on his Zappa Plays Zappa tour. The kid is pretty good. Lot of the old band members, too.

Charles Johnson Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:08:55am

We have nearly a thousand comics here. Spider-Man, Fantastic Four, Avengers, Daredevil, Incredible Hulk, Thor, Silver Surfer, Captain America, Archie, Jughead, Richie Rich, Creepy, Eerie, all kinds of annuals and special editions. Been carefully putting them all in plastic sleeves with backing boards.

SixDegrees Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:12:34am

re: #7 Charles

Be sure to get a few independent estimates of value. I've run across a couple of dealers who were, shall we say, less than completely honest.

kingkenrod Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:13:50am

re: #7 Charles

We have nearly a thousand comics here. Spider-Man, Fantastic Four, Avengers, Daredevil, Incredible Hulk, Thor, Silver Surfer, Captain America, Archie, Jughead, Richie Rich, Creepy, Eerie, all kinds of annuals and special editions. Been carefully putting them all in plastic sleeves with backing boards.

You should contact CGC and try to get the collection a certified pedigree - they will be worth even more.

[Link: www.cgccomics.com...]

Taqyia2Me Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:14:33am

Your mom did you a wonderful service keeping those in a sealed wooden crate, that ends up keeping them in good condition.
My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family and I hope your trip this week leads from one loved, rediscovered treasure to another!

lawrior Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:14:57am

re: #7 Charles

That's amazing, and I'm a bit jealous. Your mom is a special lady for taking such good care of your comics for this long, though you probably already knew this.

SixDegrees Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:15:57am

Early to go off topic, I know, but here's a reason to visit Iceland that simply can't wait: THE ICELANDIC PHALLOLOGICAL MUSEUM.

Yes, folks, it's a penis museum. Featuring actual samples of every mammal penis that can be found in Iceland.

Go see how you measure up against shrews. And whales.

harry catbox Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:16:12am

Mom was supposed to throw away all your comic books, along with your baseball cards. Something is not right here.

SlouchingPoet Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:16:14am

OMG! Nerdgasm. Those comics look awesome. The only comics I got from childhood in good condition are the ones I hated and never read. God bless your mother.

cenotaphium Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:16:33am

Comic book nerd topic:

Was X-Men a ripoff of Doom Patrol? (It's a bonus Marvel vs DC topic)

It's mentioned in this Cracked article: "6 Famous Characters You Didn't Know Were Shameless Rip Offs.

The Doom Patrol, which debuted in comics three months before everybody's favorite, more marketable mutants.

Unlike the X-Men, the Doom Patrollers were once normal people who suffered an accident that disfigured them but also gave them superpowers. Shunned by the world for just being plain ugly, the freaks were gathered by Doctor Caulder, a paraplegic, who thought that maybe the world wouldn't dislike them so much if they used their powers to save the normal people's asses from giant robots once in a while.

If this sounds somewhat familiar to you, it's because the same thing as X-Men with the only difference that the smart guy in the wheelchair was bald in one and X-Men uses mutants as an allegory for minorities instead of people with elephantiasis or whatever the heck Doom Patrol was going for.

However, the wiki entry on Doom Patrol mentions a hickup:

X-Men #1 debuted three months after MGA #80; due to publication lag times, Lee could not have known of the Doom Patrol when he scripted the first X-Men story unless he had been told about it in advance of its publication.

But Doom Patrol series creator Arnold Drake says:

...I’ve become more and more convinced that [Stan Lee] knowingly stole The X-Men from The Doom Patrol. Over the years I learned that an awful lot of writers and artists were working surreptitiously between [Marvel and DC]. Therefore from when I first brought the idea into [DC editor] Murray Boltinoff’s office, it would’ve been easy for someone to walk over and hear that [I was] working on a story about a bunch of reluctant superheroes who are led by a man in a wheelchair. So over the years I began to feel that Stan had more lead time than I realized. He may well have had four, five or even six months.

No matter who originated the idea, it's pretty clear by now that X-Men was the winning book in the long run (although Grant Morrison's run on Doom Patrol is a must-read).

..I'll go back to re-organizing my own collection now. ;)

Randall Gross Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:19:30am

I remember the Mothers of Invention ads.

jvic Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:19:32am

Years after I had left home for college in the 1960s, I learned that my parents had let my kid brothers at my 1930s Weird Tales and 1940s Astoundings.

:-(

dartmydog Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:20:35am

was magnito's backstory always thought up or was that jive added later, all that stuff with him being the holocaust etc.
whats pretty f'd up if they made a devil-jew their main bad character lol

Digital Display Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:22:27am

re: #7 Charles

We have nearly a thousand comics here. Spider-Man, Fantastic Four, Avengers, Daredevil, Incredible Hulk, Thor, Silver Surfer, Captain America, Archie, Jughead, Richie Rich, Creepy, Eerie, all kinds of annuals and special editions. Been carefully putting them all in plastic sleeves with backing boards.

That is so cool Charles..I collect stuff..Remember when I shipped Sharmuta the original 1969 Beatles Dolls? Worth a fortune I understand..I don't like the Beatles...I have an 8x10 B&W picture of Babe Ruth posing with the Negro baseball league in the 20's after an exhibition game.. Very rare..
Hey Charles..While I'm packing.. I have a Beatles Gold Album...You can have it..I don't like them...It's around here somewhere..You can have it..
I collect money.. Is there a country on the face of the Earth that I don't have the coins and paper money? I don't thing so...

Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:22:38am

Good afternoon and welcome to "Saw Saturday." It's nice to have some quality time with the family. we are spending each Sat. afternoon watching an installment of the movie series "Saw."

Today... it's "Saw II." Let the game begin.

cenotaphium Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:26:46am

re: #12 SixDegrees

Yes, folks, it's a penis museum. Featuring actual samples of every mammal penis that can be found in Iceland.

Go see how you measure up against shrews. And whales.

Two things:
1) It's Iceland. Aren't the members (including your own) going to be in a less than representative state? Will there be hand warmers present to even the odds?
2) Aren't we (uh.. humans) pretty well of in penis size relative to body size?

Athens Runaway Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:27:44am

re: #18 dartmydog

was magnito's backstory always thought up or was that jive added later, all that stuff with him being the holocaust etc.
whats pretty f'd up if they made a devil-jew their main bad character lol

Bzzzt.

The dichotomy between Magneto and Prof. Charles Xavier was inspired by the dichotomy between Malcolm X and MLK. One feels that civil rights can not be achieved from inside the system and that violence is an answer (the bullet), the other feels that civil rights can be achieved from within (the ballot)

SixDegrees Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:28:50am

re: #21 cenotaphium

Two things:
1) It's Iceland. Aren't the members (including your own) going to be in a less than representative state? Will there be hand warmers present to even the odds?
2) Aren't we (uh.. humans) pretty well of in penis size relative to body size?

I have no idea. That's why there's a museum devoted to the topic.

Dancing along the light of day Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:28:57am

re: #7 Charles

Happy Hunting!

MJ Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:29:11am

re: #7 Charles

We have nearly a thousand comics here. Spider-Man, Fantastic Four, Avengers, Daredevil, Incredible Hulk, Thor, Silver Surfer, Captain America, Archie, Jughead, Richie Rich, Creepy, Eerie, all kinds of annuals and special editions. Been carefully putting them all in plastic sleeves with backing boards.

If you're going to keep those comics, make sure that the plastic and the cardboard is up to current archival standards. Otherwise, the acid contained within the cardboard and the plastic will cause the comics to deteriorate.
Here's some sources of archival supplies:
[Link: www.gaylord.com...]
[Link: www.lightimpressionsdirect.com...]
[Link: www.talas-nyc.com...]

Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:32:45am

re: #7 Charles

Here's a tip I give people when they inherit violins: Take your collection to a dealer and tell them you're interested in consigning your collection with them. They'll usually appraise it without charging you the appraisal fee. Check out a couple dealers and see who gives you the best price. Even if you decide not to sell at least you'll know what the collection is worth.

SixDegrees Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:34:00am

re: #22 Athens Runaway

Bzzzt.

The dichotomy between Magneto and Prof. Charles Xavier was inspired by the dichotomy between Malcolm X and MLK. One feels that civil rights can not be achieved from inside the system and that violence is an answer (the bullet), the other feels that civil rights can be achieved from within (the ballot)

Interesting. I'd never heard that before.

Magneto's position has always struck me as ambiguous, neither completely good nor completely evil. I've met a couple of people who were incarcerated in the concentration camps. Having lived through that once, what sort of reaction do you think they would have if faced with the prospect arising a second time? To me, it seems that a lot of the niceties of our civilized existence would easily be tossed aside if confronted with such a monstrosity.

Randall Gross Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:35:27am

Even though it's Spring Equinox I've titled this gallery "Winter Woodpecker" because of the snow...

Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:36:47am

re: #28 Thanos

Nice. He looks busy.

Digital Display Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:37:14am

re: #26 Killgore Trout

Use the Internet!
No need to take anything anywhere..IMHO

Dancing along the light of day Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:38:03am

LA Times article on the highest price fetched for a comic book.
(Might be a good dealer listed, Charles.)

[Link: articles.latimes.com...]

Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:38:31am

All roads lead to ACORN.

Randall Gross Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:38:33am

re: #29 Killgore Trout

Nice. He looks busy.

Yeah, wood ants in that tree. Think he's hungry .

cenotaphium Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:38:43am

re: #27 SixDegrees

Having lived through that once, what sort of reaction do you think they would have if faced with the prospect arising a second time?

A cynical sigh over a society blind to history, doomed to repeat the same mistakes over and over?

..that was the response I gathered from my own family anyway. Not to say they wouldn't fight back.

Randall Gross Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:39:44am

re: #32 Killgore Trout

All roads lead to ACORN.

Speaking of which I read this past year that we had a bumper crop of real acorns, we gathered up what we could and had to put them in six backs or they would have been to heavy to carry.

Athens Runaway Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:39:48am

re: #27 SixDegrees

Interesting. I'd never heard that before.

Magneto's position has always struck me as ambiguous, neither completely good nor completely evil. I've met a couple of people who were incarcerated in the concentration camps. Having lived through that once, what sort of reaction do you think they would have if faced with the prospect arising a second time? To me, it seems that a lot of the niceties of our civilized existence would easily be tossed aside if confronted with such a monstrosity.

If I'm not mistaken, for a short time, Magneto (real name: Erik Lehnsherr) got his way and had control over the world. Until the irony was pointed out to him, he was lining up non-mutant humans in concentration camps and executing them in revenge for how mutants were treated.

I think the take-home is that he is a well-intentioned extremist. His goals are good, but his methods (theft, murder, etc.) are bad.

He kinda mellowed out as time went on, though. Actually saw the light and became the head professor at Xavier's "school for gifted children" (AKA training and teaching a new generation of mutants on how to deal with us normies in a peaceful way). It's a beautiful story of redemption and moderation.

Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:40:06am

re: #30 HoosierHoops

Use the Internet!
No need to take anything anywhere..IMHO

Condition needs to be evaluated in person. Even sending pics to dealers will only give you a rough idea.

Randall Gross Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:40:37am

re: #35 Thanos

Speaking of which I read this past year that we had a bumper crop of real acorns, we gathered up what we could and had to put them in six backs or they would have been to heavy to carry.

/pimf "Bags" not backs... I was thinking about the pain hauling around heavy bags of acorns gave me...

Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:41:18am

re: #35 Thanos

Do you eat them? I don't think I've ever eaten an acorn before.

Randall Gross Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:42:13am

re: #39 Killgore Trout

Do you eat them? I don't think I've ever eaten an acorn before.

Nope, we ran over them a lot with the car in the driveway, going to use them as mulch.

Charles Johnson Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:42:21am

re: #25 MJ

If you're going to keep those comics, make sure that the plastic and the cardboard is up to current archival standards. Otherwise, the acid contained within the cardboard and the plastic will cause the comics to deteriorate.
Here's some sources of archival supplies:
[Link: www.gaylord.com...]
[Link: www.lightimpressionsdirect.com...]
[Link: www.talas-nyc.com...]

Yeah, we got the special acid-free bags and boards from a comic book store.

Spare O'Lake Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:42:54am

re: #7 Charles

I suggest you get them insured for full insurable value on a replacement cost basis. Scan them too, at least the cover pages.

Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:43:42am

re: #40 Thanos

Ah, clever idea.

The Sanity Inspector Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:44:22am

"All this for one thin dime and two thick pennies!"

The Sanity Inspector Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:47:26am

re: #39 Killgore Trout

Do you eat them? I don't think I've ever eaten an acorn before.

Ask the Korean proprietor of a restaurant, any style restaurant, if he'll whip up one of these for you.

Randall Gross Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:47:34am

re: #43 Killgore Trout

Ah, clever idea.

It took a lot of back an forth to make sure they got well crushed however; you don't want oaks growing in your flower beds. I the lawn the mower gets them.

bratwurst Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:48:04am

I am a rather serious Zappaphile but I have never seen that ad before...amazing find!

webevintage Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:48:40am

Awesome find.

Just stopped in for a min and looked at twitter.
Now there are 100,000 in DC.
hahahahahahaha
[Link: gatewaypundit.firstthings.com...]
Political theater at its finest.

Digital Display Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:49:15am

re: #37 Killgore Trout

Condition needs to be evaluated in person. Even sending pics to dealers will only give you a rough idea.

I'm going to sell my Money collection on eBay this summer..
I have money from every country in the world...I have been collecting for years.. My oldest coins start in the 1300's and include modern day currency..One of everything..
I sent our dear friend Walter a collectors set of all the Euro coins given to each citizen of the EU when they were introduced..Very rare here..
I'm serious about money.. It's going to be a good summer on eBay.. I hope...
Money for sale!

SixDegrees Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:49:34am

re: #45 The Sanity Inspector

Ask the Korean proprietor of a restaurant, any style restaurant, if he'll whip up one of these for you.

Will he tell you what it is?

Randall Gross Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:50:13am

re: #41 Charles

Yeah, we got the special acid-free bags and boards from a comic book store.

When you park them where you are going to put them place some slats under the boxes. That way if carpet or floor ever gets wet the boxes won't wick it up.

SixDegrees Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:50:54am

re: #49 HoosierHoops

I'm going to sell my Money collection on eBay this summer..
I have money from every country in the world...I have been collecting for years.. My oldest coins start in the 1300's and include modern day currency..One of everything..
I sent our dear friend Walter a collectors set of all the Euro coins given to each citizen of the EU when they were introduced..Very rare here..
I'm serious about money.. It's going to be a good summer on eBay.. I hope...
Money for sale!

I want one of these.

The Sanity Inspector Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:51:26am

re: #50 SixDegrees

Will he tell you what it is?

Dotorimok (Acorn Jelly) 도토리목

Irenicum Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:52:28am

re: #12 SixDegrees

Now don't go dicking up this thread!
/

Dancing along the light of day Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:53:11am

re: #49 HoosierHoops

Just do your homework, know what they are worth & put in a reserve ( lowest price you will sell them for).

wrenchwench Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:53:43am

re: #48 webevintage

Awesome find.

Just stopped in for a min and looked at twitter.
Now there are 100,000 in DC.
hahahahahahaha
[Link: gatewaypundit.firstthings.com...]
Political theater at its finest.

He links to Fox which quotes Bachmann saying "over 25,000". OK, 100,000 is over 25,000, so sure, you can say that.

Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:55:52am

re: #18 dartmydog

was magnito's backstory always thought up or was that jive added later, all that stuff with him being the holocaust etc.
whats pretty f'd up if they made a devil-jew their main bad character lol

Magneto is a gypsy, not Jewish.

Tigger2005 Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:56:49am

I've got just a very few comics in good condition, and nothing from that far back. I've got Batman: Arkham Asylum and the Dark Knight series, stuff like that. I also have a couple old comics in crappy condition but that I keep around for sentimental value and because they just have good stories in them. One is the DC Comics "Christmas with the Superheroes" 1975 Christmas special...it has stories featuring Batman, Superman, the Teen Titans, Captain Marvel, and Angel & Sam. I also kept the Thor special "War of the Gods," which has two parts...the first part is the Norse creation myth and the second part recounts a battle in the heavens between the Norse and Greek gods.

I've just never been much of a collector...I keep stuff, but don't keep it in great condition. And I gave away most of my Star Wars toys... :(

Digital Display Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:57:53am

re: #52 SixDegrees

I want one of these.

LOL
on a side note I don't Collect Gold..I love money... If I can collect every piece of paper money China or England or any country has released I'm on it...
One year I was into finding every coin released by every Country during WW2..
Yes..Every coin in France during 1943.Every country I could find..A penny or a dollar.... I'm ate up..It is a fun hobby for me..
I'm selling everything this summer...

Irenicum Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:57:53am

re: #48 webevintage

Yeah, and it's interesting that in the comment thread underneath, there's someone defending the EDL. Fascist birds of a feather I guess.

Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:58:27am

Looked it up. I stand corrected. Magneto is jewish. His wife is Roma.

Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 20, 2010 11:58:34am

Marxist Muslim Thug!

The Sanity Inspector Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:00:12pm

re: #54 Irenicum

Now don't go dicking up this thread!
/

Another cock-up pun thread...

ryannon Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:01:15pm

re: #63 The Sanity Inspector

Another cock-up pun thread...

I wonder who'll get the balls rolling?

Irenicum Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:02:21pm

The only old "comic" book I have isn't even a comic book, but a coloring book. It's the Watergate coloring book and it opens up to a centerfold of Nixon behind his oval office desk with a huge pile of money on top of the desk with a sign in front saying "The bucks stop here"! A friend back home bought it for me after I mentioned having one as a kid and wishing I still had it. An amazing gift.

The Sanity Inspector Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:03:14pm

re: #59 HoosierHoops

LOL
on a side note I don't Collect Gold..I love money... If I can collect every piece of paper money China or England or any country has released I'm on it...
One year I was into finding every coin released by every Country during WW2..
Yes..Every coin in France during 1943.Every country I could find..A penny or a dollar... I'm ate up..It is a fun hobby for me..
I'm selling everything this summer...

As a child I once possessed a Nazi five-pfennig coin. I think one of my uncles brought it home from the War. I've no idea whatever happened to it. :(

Irenicum Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:04:40pm

re: #63 The Sanity Inspector

Actually that Phallo museum in Iceland reminds me of the sex museum in Copenhagen. That's some pretty wild stuff.

Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:07:22pm

Obama Nazi!

Irenicum Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:07:30pm

I guess it makes sense that the Icelanders would have a phallic museum, since their banks gave them the shaft.

Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:08:09pm

TigerHawk finds a black guy!

The Sanity Inspector Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:10:03pm

re: #69 Irenicum

I guess it makes sense that the Icelanders would have a phallic museum, since their banks gave them the shaft.

Although it was Britain and the Netherlands who ended up with the exploding cigar.

RightOnTheLeftCoast Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:10:27pm

Ah, nostalgia! :o)
Sadly, my mother didn't have the packrat gene and threw out all my old comic books and baseball cards.
Bear in mind, I'm talking about the 1950's and 1960's here... some pretty classic stuff from that era. On the occasions I've dropped by ComiCon, it almost brought tears to my eyes as I walked by the display cases of classic comic books in their protective wrappings, pointing and muttering "I had that one, and that one, and that one..." and seeing the prices they're bringing now. Mine were mainly Superman, Batman, Flash, Green Lantern and a few others that evade my recall at this time. Most of the baseball cards were from the era of Willie Mays, Mickey Mantle, Roger Maris, Hank Aaron, Harmon Killebrew (all of which I had), and still came as near afterthoughts in a pack of nearly fossilized chewing gum.

Digital Display Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:10:48pm

re: #66 The Sanity Inspector

As a child I once possessed a Nazi five-pfennig coin. I think one of my uncles brought it home from the War. I've no idea whatever happened to it. :(

I sent Walter some Chinese paper Bills and was a mystery to me.. Dude emailed me the links for them.. Walter is very smart about money.. He is a collector

Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:12:44pm

My mother-in-law threw out a Darth Vader shaped carrier with Star Wars figurines. Of course, they were all out of the box, but I still hear about that carrying case.

By now, the Moms know 1. Don't throw it out 2. If you're lucky, they'll forget and you can use it for your retirement.

;)

Varek Raith Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:15:57pm

That's an awesome collection!

Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:17:07pm

From the Tea Party

As our Brian Beutler reports, a few moments ago in Longworth office building, a group swarmed a very calm looking Henry Waxman, as he got on the elevator, with shouts of "Kill the bill!" "You liar! You crook!"

Not long before, Rep. Barney Frank got an uglier version of the treatment. Just after Frank rounded a corner to leave the building, an older protestor yelled "Barney, you faggot." The surrounding crowd of protestors then erupted in laughter.

At one point, Capitol police officer threatened to throw a group of protestors out of the building but that only seemed to inflame them more; and apparently none were ejected.

These people are jerks

The Sanity Inspector Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:17:09pm

re: #72 RightOnTheLeftCoast

Ah, nostalgia! :o)
Sadly, my mother didn't have the packrat gene and threw out all my old comic books and baseball cards.
Bear in mind, I'm talking about the 1950's and 1960's here... some pretty classic stuff from that era. On the occasions I've dropped by ComiCon, it almost brought tears to my eyes as I walked by the display cases of classic comic books in their protective wrappings, pointing and muttering "I had that one, and that one, and that one..." and seeing the prices they're bringing now. Mine were mainly Superman, Batman, Flash, Green Lantern and a few others that evade my recall at this time. Most of the baseball cards were from the era of Willie Mays, Mickey Mantle, Roger Maris, Hank Aaron, Harmon Killebrew (all of which I had), and still came as near afterthoughts in a pack of nearly fossilized chewing gum.

"Look at this. It's worthless - ten dollars from a vendor in the street. But I take it, I bury it in the sand for a thousand years, it becomes priceless... like the Ark. Men will kill for it. Men like you and me."

ryannon Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:19:02pm

re: #72 RightOnTheLeftCoast

As a kid, I had the very first fifteen or so comic book-sized numbers of what would ultimately become Mad Magazine. They were hilariously subversive and absolutely surreal, with legendary writers and artists at the very top of their game.

Image: 10092_4_0011.jpg

wrenchwench Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:20:47pm

Johnny Thunder

Youtube Video

Gus Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:21:31pm

re: #62 Killgore Trout

Marxist Muslim Thug!

Here KT. This is a crowd photo from DC.

For future reference when they claim that 1 million people showed up.

Varek Raith Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:23:31pm

re: #80 Gus 802

Here KT. This is a crowd photo from DC.

For future reference when they claim that 1 million people showed up.

It's obviously 10³⁰³ number of people.

Gus Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:24:52pm

re: #81 Varek Raith

It's obviously 10³⁰³ number of people.

At least. They are not there physically but they're there "in spirit" including the ghosts of "revisionist history past."

The Sanity Inspector Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:26:09pm

re: #76 Stanley Sea

From the Tea Party

These people are jerks

Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.
-- Charles MacKay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

simoom Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:26:12pm

Looks like "deem and pass" is out (the House leadership decided against using it), so it will be three votes instead of two on Sunday:
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:26:51pm

re: #76 Stanley Sea

There are reports on twitter of a lot of shouting in the halls of congress today.

Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:28:07pm

re: #80 Gus 802

Nice pic, very clear. I see a lot of open grass on that lawn. Looks like about 2,000.

The Sanity Inspector Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:28:51pm

re: #80 Gus 802

Here KT. This is a crowd photo from DC.

For future reference when they claim that 1 million people showed up.

For comparison, the 1963 March on Washington: Image: 286476887_d43f3cff29.jpg

Gus Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:29:05pm

re: #86 Killgore Trout

Nice pic, very clear. I see a lot of open grass on that lawn. Looks like about 2,000.

That would be my guess.

wrenchwench Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:29:21pm

Superman

Youtube Video

ryannon Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:29:25pm

OT: Wal-Mart PA racist is 16 years old:

WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP, N.J. — The authorities in southern New Jersey said Saturday that they had arrested a 16-year-old boy for activating a public-address system at a Wal-Mart store earlier in the week and ordering “all black people” to leave.

The boy, whose name was not released because he is a minor, was charged with bias and intimidation and harassment in connection with the episode last Sunday. If convicted, he could face up to a year in a juvenile detention center, officials said.

According to the police, the boy picked up a public-address telephone in the Wal-Mart in Washington Township, one of two dozen accessible to the store’s customers, and said, “All black people, leave the store now.”

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Gus Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:30:00pm

re: #87 The Sanity Inspector

For comparison, the 1963 March on Washington: [Link: farm1.static.flickr.com...]

Now that's a lot of people. How many was that? Over 500K?

The Sanity Inspector Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:33:24pm

re: #90 ryannon

Intimidation and harassment I get, but "bias"? That's a crime?

The Sanity Inspector Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:34:18pm

re: #91 Gus 802

Now that's a lot of people. How many was that? Over 500K?

Estimates of the number of participants varied from 200,000 (police) to over 300,000 (leaders of the march).

SixDegrees Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:34:20pm

re: #91 Gus 802

Now that's a lot of people. How many was that? Over 500K?

200k - 300k.

Gus Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:35:10pm

re: #93 The Sanity Inspector

re: #94 SixDegrees

Thanks.

Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:36:15pm

re: #89 wrenchwench

Superman

[Video]

"Sometimes I despair the world will never see another man, like him"

The Sanity Inspector Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:36:57pm

re: #84 simoom

Looks like "deem and pass" is out (the House leadership decided against using it), so it will be three votes instead of two on Sunday:
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Good. The people deserve to see their representatives standing up, with their faces hanging out, voting for or against this thing. No deem and pass.

Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:38:05pm

Obama's speaking to congress.

wrenchwench Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:38:11pm

Spider-Man

Youtube Video

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Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:40:17pm

Ugh, we have to listen to Pelosi first.

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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:41:27pm

Funny/sad from Weigel's tweet:

Young African-American girl visible in window of Capitol, looking at protesters--some in crowd think it's Malia.

[Link: twitter.com...]

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bratwurst Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:41:29pm

re: #61 EmmmieG

Looked it up. I stand corrected. Magneto is jewish.

So is The Thing of Fantastic 4 fame.

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Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:42:33pm

re: #101 Stanley Sea

Funny/sad from Weigel's tweet:

[Link: twitter.com...]

I do hope the girls are sufficiently insulated from this stuff.

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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:43:32pm

re: #103 Killgore Trout

I do hope the girls are sufficiently insulated from this stuff.

Yeah, I'm sure they are.

Not hanging out at the Capitol on Saturday, I bet.

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Ojoe Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:48:05pm

"Who could imagine, that they would freak out in Kansas?

Kansas Kansas

Bo-Deo Oh Dee Oh Dough

— F. Z.

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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:49:44pm

X-Men #1! Yummy. Reminds me of some good reading when I was much younger. I wish I still had my set of Clairemont X-Men (Dark Phoenix, Days of Future Past, God Loves Man Kills, etc)

Lot's of good stuff happened in comics in the '80s.

William

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Ojoe Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:52:04pm

re: #39 Killgore Trout

You can eat them, the Amerindians did and still do, but you have to leach the bitter tannins out of them first.

They can make some tasty things.

I've eaten bread that had a lot of acorn in it, it was good.

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Ojoe Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:53:16pm

If they try and fine me for not buying into some insurance scheme I will spit big lugies.

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webevintage Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:54:19pm

re: #98 Killgore Trout

Obama's speaking to congress.

The tweets!
The tweets are killing me!
What a bunch of morons:

RT @LadyConservativ Pelosi has closed the Buildings to the people! OMG!!

ladylibertas93 Pelosi has locked the doors to the American PPL - what's next RIOT POLICE? PELOSI IS A LIAR & TRAITOR!

and a bunch of bull shit about Obama sneaking in the side door to avoid them
AS IF the SS would let him wade into a crowd like that with no prior work being done.
People, please use some logic.

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Gus Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:54:23pm

Telling video displaying the rampant irrational fear by some people that oppose the health care legislation in one of the final protests in DC. A lot of people making reference to death panels, "blue pills", rationing, eugenics, euthanasia, etc.

The Tea Party and The Circus

Youtube Video

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wee fury Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:55:10pm

Special, Charles. May good memories abound.
The oddest comic book I have is "Tom Landry and the Dallas Cowboys" from 1973.

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simoom Sat, Mar 20, 2010 1:06:43pm

re: #97 The Sanity Inspector

Good. The people deserve to see their representatives standing up, with their faces hanging out, voting for or against this thing. No deem and pass.

I mostly agree. While I'm against political unilateral disarmament, it never was clear to me the political upside to this particular use of the self-executing rule.

The Dems really need to learn a thing or two from the GOP on how to drum up outrage over parliamentary procedure. I mean the GOP is on track to more than triple the previous record of filibusters in the Senate and completely outdo previous Senates when it comes to blocking appointments, with the Dems failing to get any traction on that, while they successfully preemptively tar-and-feathered the Dems in the media for even considering to use a rule the GOP used more than anyone in recent decades.

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RightOnTheLeftCoast Sat, Mar 20, 2010 1:08:50pm

re: #78 ryannon

As a kid, I had the very first fifteen or so comic book-sized numbers of what would ultimately become Mad Magazine. They were hilariously subversive and absolutely surreal, with legendary writers and artists at the very top of their game.

[Link: goodcomics.comicbookresources.com...]

Oh crap! I completely forgot about Mad Magazine! I probably had a lot of what would now be considered "classic" editions of that one too.

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simoom Sat, Mar 20, 2010 1:09:21pm

re: #112 simoom

Though it may be that you need a unified, massive partisan media collective to push outrage stories & foolish pet-names and euphemisms into traditional media.

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The Sanity Inspector Sat, Mar 20, 2010 1:15:25pm

re: #113 RightOnTheLeftCoast

Oh crap! I completely forgot about Mad Magazine! I probably had a lot of what would now be considered "classic" editions of that one too.

All I need to know about the 60s I learned from MAD Magazine.

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RightOnTheLeftCoast Sat, Mar 20, 2010 1:18:44pm

re: #115 The Sanity Inspector

All I need to know about the 60s I learned from MAD Magazine.

Heh, heh...
Based on my recollection of the 60's (I'm one of the few who actually remembers it... I was the one guy who didn't do drugs) the impression of the 60's you would get from reading Mad is probably pretty accurate! ;oD

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Randall Gross Sat, Mar 20, 2010 1:21:18pm

re: #81 Varek Raith

It's obviously 10³⁰³ number of people.

Who thinks about fighting super mutants and Talon company mercs after seeing that scene?

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bratwurst Sat, Mar 20, 2010 1:32:40pm

re: #99 wrenchwench

Was fortunate enough to see the Remones a few times before they all started dying and my ears are still ringing!

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wrenchwench Sat, Mar 20, 2010 2:18:32pm

re: #118 bratwurst

Was fortunate enough to see the Remones a few times before they all started dying and my ears are still ringing!

I met the Ramones at a motel on the Sunset Strip in Hollywood. My boyfriend was a DJ with the first punk radio show in southern California (on a college station), and set up an interview with them, which was held pool-side. Joey slept in and didn't come out until the interview was almost over. When he came out of his room, there were two women with him dressed in leopard print things. He looked unwell but happy.

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yenta-fada Sat, Mar 20, 2010 2:31:19pm

CONGRATS, Charles for the comic discovery. My hubby is a comic collector, and it sounds like good stuff. The top comic collectors want stuff in pristine condition, e.g. spine unbent. When hubby bought, he generally bought 2 copies, one to read, one to bag in mylar. Finding a reputable dealer (and the big ones all know each other by reputation, and/or personally) is crucial. They will go over every comic and rate it by condition and rarity. Demand is constant for the cream of the crop. Other stuff is faddish. Good luck!

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deadletterboy Sat, Mar 20, 2010 6:54:35pm

I am ridiculously jealous right now. It sounds like you've found some wonderful stuff.

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plato Sat, Mar 20, 2010 7:21:38pm

I sold a bunch of Mad Magazines from the early 60's on Ebay. I didn't make a killing but they sold.

The stuff is dated and not very amusing. It was in very good shape. I'd be curious if the Johnson family makes serious money from the collection. I thought my collection was more valuable than it actually was when I listed them.

re: #115 The Sanity Inspector

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plato Sat, Mar 20, 2010 7:30:11pm

While we're at it, forgive me or delete this posting if its inappropriate. I don't remember if it's against the rules but it is definitely 'on thread' and relevant to the discussion.

[Link: cgi.ebay.com...]

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dean_k Sat, Mar 20, 2010 7:54:16pm

Can i take this opportunity to post my favorite piece of comic stip satire ever?

Watchmen + Nixon

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Liberal Classic Sat, Mar 20, 2010 8:14:30pm

Holy crap 1963 issue #1 X-Men!

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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Mar 20, 2010 8:20:10pm

Charles: Any chance of a huge, hi-res scan of the Zappa ad?

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I Am Kreniigh! Sat, Mar 20, 2010 9:27:30pm

Magneto did teach at the school for a while, and then he went bad again, and then he was dead, and then he came back and was really bad, and then dead, and then it turned out it wasn't him so he was alive and not really bad (which is a shame because it undid a terrific story by Grant Morrison), and now he's basically kind of sleeping on the X-Men's couch because they won't hire him back but he's got nowhere else to go.

No, srsly.

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nines09 Sat, Mar 20, 2010 9:51:06pm

If you have Fantastic Four #1 you are happy. MINT FF#1 you are ecstatic.

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stevecaplan Sun, Mar 21, 2010 6:13:40pm

Wait until you see the movie Kick Ass next month. One of the characters (played by Nicholas Cage) fiances his schemes with a suitcase full of comics.

FYI, I have an X-Men #1 as well. In your apparent condition, it is easily worth 10K.

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Sacred Plants Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:41:53am

The question has occupied generations of anthropologists why a society would be systematically inflicting this pornography of the soul upon itself. Explanations are reaching from a basic need for compensation for a general lack of bodily pornography up to detailed interests to answer specific inspirations with the most ridiculous plagiarisms without directly addressing them. In any case, it does leave behind certain individuals with the idea they knew the soul of their society so well that they were somehow mandated to tamper with it, although their horizon of inspiration actually ends with fiscal policy. Zappas admissions of economic dependency may be the only honest thing in those booklets.

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