Quote of the week so far, a painfully accurate observation from David Frum:
“Republicans originally thought that Fox worked for us, and now we’re discovering we work for Fox. And the balance here has been completely reversed. The thing that sustains a strong Fox network is the thing that undermines a strong Republican party.”
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windsagio Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:03:09pm |
"Acknowleging the truth is the first step to recovery"
A hard self-assesment to make, but good for him for being willing to say it.
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Cato the Elder Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:04:45pm |
Someone once said, freedom of the press only applies if you own one.
Murdoch owns XX% of the world's press. Does that tell you anything?
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Velvet Elvis Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:05:24pm |
Frum's been making a lot of sense over the past couple days.
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enigma3535 Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:06:39pm |
Combine 6 yrs of GOP Executive and Legislative control [of which 2 yrs were heavily leveraged with post 9/11 political capital]; where "starving the beast"* appears to have been an element of their plan; with the current strategy of obstructing any progress to help insure that they take back seats in Congress this November ... and it is no wonder we are where we're at.
* - [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:07:35pm |
And that goes double for Limbaugh.
hear that, and know it is true. The parasites of Fox news and talk radio have overtaken the host.
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Ojoe Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:08:45pm |
Tired of Elephants vs. Donkeys?
You might consider joining the Modern Whig Party.
Good Night All.
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Velvet Elvis Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:11:06pm |
This piece from From was pretty good reading:
[Link: www.frumforum.com...]
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the Yankee Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:11:44pm |
re: #8 Ojoe
Tired of Elephants vs. Donkeys?
You might consider joining the Modern Whig Party.Good Night All.
Does the Modern Whig Party arch enemy still The Masons?
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:16:43pm |
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools."
-For Whom the Bell Tolls, Ernest Hemmingway
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HappyWarrior Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:18:11pm |
Frum's a smart enough guy. He doesn't appeal to anti intellectualism and while I probably disagree with him on most policy matters he talks politics like an adult. This is the same reason even when I was a bigger partisan, I really liked and appreciated Chuck Hagel when he was in the Senate as well.
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:18:56pm |
re: #6 enigma3535
Combine 6 yrs of GOP Executive and Legislative control [of which 2 yrs were heavily leveraged with post 9/11 political capital]; where "starving the beast"* appears to have been an element of their plan; with the current strategy of obstructing any progress to help insure that they take back seats in Congress this November ... and it is no wonder we are where we're at.
* - [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
In order to "starve the beast" (shrink the federal government) you not only have to cut the governments revenues you also must cut it's expenditures. They were successful at the first part, tax cuts, they utterly failed at the second however, in fact expenditures increased dramatically and all of it on borrowed money. (and no it was not all due to 9/11 and the wars, think medicare part D)
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albusteve Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:20:50pm |
re: #14 ausador
In order to "starve the beast" (shrink the federal government) you not only have to cut the governments revenues you also must cut it's expenditures. They were successful at the first part, tax cuts, they utterly failed at the second however, in fact expenditures increased dramatically and all of it on borrowed money. (and no it was not all due to 9/11 and the wars, think medicare part D)
Bush pandered with his spending and second term amnesty gig...c'ya
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The Yankee Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:22:17pm |
It is good to see people on the right not admit to not liking certain parts of the new angry right. While still being some sort of member of it.
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windsagio Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:22:37pm |
re: #15 albusteve
Republicans in general seem to like to talk about cutting spending more than actually making any cuts. The interesting question is 'when did their rhetoric come totally unhinged from their reality?'
Of course the Dems are almost as bad, having learned that people don't like the necessity of increasing taxes.
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Racer X Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:23:22pm |
re: #16 The Yankee
It is good to see people on the right not admit to not liking certain parts of the new angry right. While still being some sort of member of it.
Could you rephrase that?
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Cato the Elder Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:25:32pm |
Mikey Moron on the last thread is claiming that Obama clapping back at the people who clapped for him at the bill-signing today is a custom that originated with Stalin.
Hasn't Mikey ever seen any old Bob Hope vids?
Shit. I will upding anyone who updings me. Courtesy of Ioseb Besarionis dze Jughashvili.
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Stanghazi Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:25:42pm |
Something makes me think that Frum is catching some major flack right now. I am happy to see his sane take on the whole situation, it's refreshing!
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The Yankee Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:25:43pm |
re: #18 Racer X
Your right, it is good to see conservatives admitting to not liking elements on their side. While they are still important members of the right.
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Olsonist Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:26:13pm |
re: #17 windsagio
That and the fact that the Iraq war was off the books, straight to debt, until Obama submitted his budget. Then the Republicans blamed him for his massive budget deficit.
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albusteve Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:26:37pm |
re: #17 windsagio
Republicans in general seem to like to talk about cutting spending more than actually making any cuts. The interesting question is 'when did their rhetoric come totally unhinged from their reality?'
Of course the Dems are almost as bad, having learned that people don't like the necessity of increasing taxes.
voters don't control congress...it's folly to think that just because conservatives want less spending and smaller govt, they have to reconcile Bush just for your sake...who's 'rhetoric' are you even talking about?...and further, generalizing about political parties will leave you with egg on your face
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Lidane Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:26:41pm |
Suddenly, some 20+ year old words from HST are making even more sense than they did back then:
"The TV business is uglier than most things. It is normally perceived as some kind of cruel and shallow money trench through the heart of the journalism industry, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs, for no good reason."-- Hunter S. Thompson, Generation of Swine
Frum's had some good columns lately. Too bad he's being ignored by the GOP.
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windsagio Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:26:44pm |
re: #23 Olsonist
They also blamed him for the first part of TARP, nothing to see here >>
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windsagio Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:27:41pm |
re: #24 albusteve
So you're saying that the Republicans, in general, don't say that we should cut government spending, in a general sense?
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Killgore Trout Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:28:27pm |
The thing that sustains a strong Fox network is the thing that undermines a strong Republican party.
Bingo.
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stevemcg Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:28:29pm |
Unfortunately any sane Republican is just going to get swallowed up by the crazy. Frum can get away with it because he's not running for office. I can't see myself supporting any Republican candidates for the forseeable future because they will just be owned by the radical right.
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Racer X Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:29:11pm |
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enigma3535 Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:29:30pm |
re: #14 ausador
"heavily leveraged" is not "all". That said ...
IMHO, it is possible that the strategy of waging the Iraq war, passing Med-D while reducing taxes was influenced in some regard by the philosophy of "starving the beast".
What I do not think those driving this particular stake realized was that the World is not what it was in the 80s and 90s ... which helped precipitate the shite we are in now ... fewer effective levers which have greater degrees of risk associated with them when pulled or tweeked.
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windsagio Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:30:14pm |
re: #27 windsagio
christ, that was wishy-washy.
Its a longstanding republican point that we should reduce government spending. Its also been a point for them for a long time that taxes need to be cut as much as possible.
The problem is that people are willing to do the latter, but not so willing to do the former.
Just about everyone knows this.
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okonkolo Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:30:26pm |
President Obama really underscored some of this when he met with the GOP at that televised retreat, saying something to the effect that their fiery and over the top rhetoric, while great theater, paints the GOP into a corner to where they cannot act. If Obama is Hitler/Stalin/Mao, you cannot negotiate with Hitler/Stalin/Mao. If healthcare/medicare reforms lead to death panels and the end of the Republic, you cannot negotiate with that. Besides then not having much leverage to making it a better bill, Obama took a few GOP ideas and will now get credit for them. Worse still, good luck trying to get Rep. Ryan's plan anywhere near reality. If minor medicare cuts and adjustments Obama proposed lead to death panels (as says Fox/GOP), then Ryan's more drastic cuts and reforms would more certainly lead to death panels according to the Fox/GOP line that they have been pushing for a year. and while it might be good for the GOP to cool their jets and start acting like grownups, Rush/Beck/Hannity will turn up the volume and drown them out.
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Cato the Elder Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:30:26pm |
re: #31 Racer X
Whore!
I beg your pardon. I am not just any whore, but an Obama-Stalinist call-girl.
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albusteve Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:31:08pm |
re: #27 windsagio
So you're saying that the Republicans, in general, don't say that we should cut government spending, in a general sense?
you make your own distinctions...are you saying elected officials represent voters?...I'm not partisan, so I don't relate to your constant dismissal of conservative values...I really don't know what you are talking about and doubt that you do either...maybe you can work on your expression or drop me from your list
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windsagio Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:32:09pm |
re: #37 albusteve
I'm not partisan
ehehe I love it :D
You're outta luck tho, I've gotta go to work :(
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:32:29pm |
re: #30 stevemcg
Unfortunately any sane Republican is just going to get swallowed up by the crazy. Frum can get away with it because he's not running for office. I can't see myself supporting any Republican candidates for the forseeable future because they will just be owned by the radical right.
That's the problem all right. Writers and pundits can afford to be clear-sighted, but right now if you want to run as a Republican--I dunno. The best chance I actually see for sane Republican candidates right now is to run them in largely blue areas, where midterm backlash or economy stress may hurt Dems, but no one will vote for a Bachmann clone. Call it the Scott Brown strategy.
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Olsonist Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:33:12pm |
re: #37 albusteve
you make your own distinctions...are you saying elected officials represent voters?...I'm not partisan, so I don't relate to your constant dismissal of conservative values...I really don't know what you are talking about and doubt that you do either...maybe you can work on your expression or drop me from your list
Bullshit.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:33:52pm |
re: #34 okonkolo
President Obama really underscored some of this when he met with the GOP at that televised retreat, saying something to the effect that their fiery and over the top rhetoric, while great theater, paints the GOP into a corner to where they cannot act. If Obama is Hitler/Stalin/Mao, you cannot negotiate with Hitler/Stalin/Mao. If healthcare/medicare reforms lead to death panels and the end of the Republic, you cannot negotiate with that. Besides then not having much leverage to making it a better bill, Obama took a few GOP ideas and will now get credit for them. Worse still, good luck trying to get Rep. Ryan's plan anywhere near reality. If minor medicare cuts and adjustments Obama proposed lead to death panels (as says Fox/GOP), then Ryan's more drastic cuts and reforms would more certainly lead to death panels according to the Fox/GOP line that they have been pushing for a year. and while it might be good for the GOP to cool their jets and start acting like grownups, Rush/Beck/Hannity will turn up the volume and drown them out.
Hello, new guy.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:33:56pm |
I'd really prefer not to have any particular group of people "chanting" anything.
Leave your dumbshit jump-rope rhymes at home, along with your misspelled signs depicting the miserable banality that passes for edgy agitprop these days.
The quickest way to get me to fantasize about dropping napalm bombs on you, even if I agree with you - hell, ESPECIALLY if I agree with you, is to gather around the public square all wearing your (Chinese-made) tee-shirts baring one dumbass bumper sticker slogan or another.
If you want to be influential, write me a fuckin', you know, LETTER or something. Try to make sure most of the words are spelled correctly, and that appropriate punctuation is used. That's not because I'm your middle school English teacher; it's because I'd prefer not to have to struggle to decrypt your breathless ravings.
Hell, who knows... you might even change my mind about something. But I'ld guaran-goddamn-tee it won't happen as a result of you waving pitchforks signs and shouting slogans.
Yours,
negativ, Master of the Universe
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HappyWarrior Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:36:04pm |
re: #39 SanFranciscoZionist
That's the problem all right. Writers and pundits can afford to be clear-sighted, but right now if you want to run as a Republican--I dunno. The best chance I actually see for sane Republican candidates right now is to run them in largely blue areas, where midterm backlash or economy stress may hurt Dems, but no one will vote for a Bachmann clone. Call it the Scott Brown strategy.
Well that's not going to sit too well with the Demint wing of the party who would rather have 40 ultra conservatives than 60 people of ideology. If the GOP wants to broaden its reach. I dare say they should steal an issue or so to neutralize the Dems. Hell, if they became more libertarian on some social issues I'd be willing to vote them somewhat on the local level.
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okonkolo Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:36:38pm |
re: #41 SanFranciscoZionist
Hello. New? Why, I've been here for literally dozens of days.
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teleskiguy Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:37:18pm |
OT, but not really...
Do any lizards know how the new HCR bill will lower the costs of medical care?
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Jadespring Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:37:20pm |
I have some questions.
So Ann Coulter canceled her speech at one of the Universities she was supposed to speak at because a couple of thousand protesters showed up outside the venue. So we have two groups of people exercising their right to speak. Who's right and who's wrong here? Both right? One more right or wrong? Or is that just how the cookie crumbles?
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Racer X Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:38:03pm |
re: #46 teleskiguy
OT, but not really...
Do any lizards know how the new HCR bill will lower the costs of medical care?
Yes. Your grandkids will pay for it.
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Stanghazi Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:38:30pm |
re: #43 negativ
heh, saw a photo from the tea party this weekend, some lady had an antique 3 pronged pitchfork.
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Olsonist Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:39:19pm |
re: #46 teleskiguy
The intent is to get more people covered so that they are getting primary care rather than showing up in emergency rooms. People who don't have insurance put things off.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:40:13pm |
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jamesfirecat Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:41:05pm |
By the "combat form" stage the flood parasite has taken complete control of the host regardless of it is human or covenant, faint traces of original hosts personality can still emerge, but if they are properly restrained and thus unable to follow their parasite's desires to spread....
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:41:27pm |
re: #47 Jadespring
I have some questions.
So Ann Coulter canceled her speech at one of the Universities she was supposed to speak at because a couple of thousand protesters showed up outside the venue. So we have two groups of people exercising their right to speak. Who's right and who's wrong here? Both right? One more right or wrong? Or is that just how the cookie crumbles?
Well, it depends.
I think Coulter is WRONG about almost everything. I don't know what the protesters believed, except for not liking Ann, so I don't know if they're RIGHT.
She has a right to appear in a private venue and speak. They have a right to protest.
Why'd she cancel?
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Leecifer Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:42:16pm |
Glad to see Frum admit this. I agree the Republican party would do well to move away from the punditry of Fox News and Limbaugh. (towards the center)
Better yet though, I would love to see more electable unique political parties rise up so we have more options than just Republican and Democrat. Washington really could the more variety and would definitely make American politics far more interesting.
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Cato the Elder Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:42:20pm |
Somewheeeehhhhre, over the rainbow (farted by Summer Glau)
Waaaaay up high (because I'm on crack and Jäger)
Theeeere's a place that I've heard of (Wasilla, to be precise)
Once in a lullaby (sung by the famous vocal trio of Glenn Beck (in Kermit voice), Ann Coulter (reprising her days as a boy soprano) and Rupert Murdoch (signing base))
If pretty little bluebirds fly above the sky
Why oh why can't I?
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elizajane Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:42:40pm |
re: #20 Stanley Sea
Something makes me think that Frum is catching some major flack right now. I am happy to see his sane take on the whole situation, it's refreshing!
Yes he is--the WSJ skewered him today, in a remarkable piece of the-beast-eats-its-young. It's actually kind of appalling that a formerly respectable conservative paper (for which he used to write) is now attacking a smart guy who doesn't toe the far-right line.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:42:49pm |
re: #46 teleskiguy
OT, but not really...
Do any lizards know how the new HCR bill will lower the costs of medical care?
The same way that your car insurance is low because people with great driving records pay into the system.
If only boy racers with WRX STIs who get into accidents every 6 months, and old blind ladies in Plymouth Sattelites paid into the system, car insurance would cost a fortune.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:42:51pm |
re: #47 Jadespring
I have some questions.
So Ann Coulter canceled her speech at one of the Universities she was supposed to speak at because a couple of thousand protesters showed up outside the venue. So we have two groups of people exercising their right to speak. Who's right and who's wrong here? Both right? One more right or wrong? Or is that just how the cookie crumbles?
She took her Tonka trucks and went home. If she indeed canceled in reaction to protesters, then I guess she just decided the kitchen was too hot. Doesn't seem to be much right or wrong about it.
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Gus Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:44:03pm |
Feeble attempt at continuing the anti-healthcare hysteria over at Drudge report with a headline reading:
OBAMA TANNING TAX STARTS NOW
Yep, that would be a 10% tanning salon tax. That means if you decide to get a single session over at Cherry Creek Tans you will have to fork over the outrageous-outrage of a sum of:
90 cents.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:44:08pm |
re: #47 Jadespring
I have some questions.
So Ann Coulter canceled her speech at one of the Universities she was supposed to speak at because a couple of thousand protesters showed up outside the venue. So we have two groups of people exercising their right to speak. Who's right and who's wrong here? Both right? One more right or wrong? Or is that just how the cookie crumbles?
Nobody's wrong, nobody's right. She didn't want to face protesters, so she cancelled. She wasn't welcome there, she's said all kinds of hideous and psychotic things about canada.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:45:10pm |
re: #58 elizajane
Yes he is--the WSJ skewered him today, in a remarkable piece of the-beast-eats-its-young. It's actually kind of appalling that a formerly respectable conservative paper (for which he used to write) is now attacking a smart guy who doesn't toe the far-right line.
The WSJ is now owned by Murdoch IIRC, and its op eds have skewed towards Fox News tone since then.
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albusteve Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:45:26pm |
re: #53 negativ
Yes.
well as for your #43 rant, may I suggest you go watch American Idol or whatever while people express their rights?...maybe just dodge the frustration you feel...after all they are doing nothing more than you yourself are by posting here
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goddamnedfrank Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:45:58pm |
re: #47 Jadespring
I have some questions.
So Ann Coulter canceled her speech at one of the Universities she was supposed to speak at because a couple of thousand protesters showed up outside the venue. So we have two groups of people exercising their right to speak. Who's right and who's wrong here? Both right? One more right or wrong? Or is that just how the cookie crumbles?
Well, the Democrats didn't have to walk through the protesters on their way to vote for health care reform, they chose to. So the lesson I take from this to be thankful that Congress isn't dependent on Ann Coulter's ability to face criticism.
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Cato the Elder Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:46:17pm |
re: #47 Jadespring
I have some questions.
So Ann Coulter canceled her speech at one of the Universities she was supposed to speak at because a couple of thousand protesters showed up outside the venue. So we have two groups of people exercising their right to speak. Who's right and who's wrong here? Both right? One more right or wrong? Or is that just how the cookie crumbles?
I guess she doesn't have the balls to match her Adam's apple.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:47:30pm |
re: #53 negativ
Yes.
How can a musician be a fraud? ;-) I mean, unless they're Milli vanilli and they're just lip syncing everything and some studio musician is doing all the work...
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HappyWarrior Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:47:53pm |
re: #47 Jadespring
I have some questions.
So Ann Coulter canceled her speech at one of the Universities she was supposed to speak at because a couple of thousand protesters showed up outside the venue. So we have two groups of people exercising their right to speak. Who's right and who's wrong here? Both right? One more right or wrong? Or is that just how the cookie crumbles?
This is the Canada thing right? Well, I disagree with their law on hate speech. Their law is their law though. The students had every bit of a right to protest her though as she did to say whatever nasty thing she was going to say since you never hear anything positive from her mouth I am assuming it was nasty. I think she got what she wanted out of this though. We're discussing her and she has some publicity.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:48:21pm |
re: #61 Gus 802
Feeble attempt at continuing the anti-healthcare hysteria over at Drudge report with a headline reading:
OBAMA TANNING TAX STARTS NOW
Yep, that would be a 10% tanning salon tax. That means if you decide to get a single session over at Cherry Creek Tans you will have to fork over the outrageous-outrage of a sum of:
90 cents.
That's not the point, Gus. The point is that our Founding Fathers never meant for us to be taxed when we went to get skin cancer at an indoor tanning salon.
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:48:30pm |
re: #46 teleskiguy
OT, but not really...
Do any lizards know how the new HCR bill will lower the costs of medical care?
It will not, every part of the bill that was designed to actually decrease spending was dropped over the course of the last year.
All this bill tries to do is clean up some of the problems with insurance and get more people coverage. It does zip to try to stem the tide of rising costs, unfortunately.
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albusteve Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:48:56pm |
re: #67 WindUpBird
How can a musician be a fraud? ;-) I mean, unless they're Milli vanilli and they're just lip syncing everything and some studio musician is doing all the work...
probably a big Pearl Jam fan...or whoever
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Racer X Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:48:59pm |
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Gus Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:49:05pm |
re: #69 SanFranciscoZionist
That's not the point, Gus. The point is that our Founding Fathers never meant for us to be taxed when we went to get skin cancer at an indoor tanning salon.
It's right there in teh USS Constertution!111!!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:49:12pm |
re: #68 HappyWarrior
This is the Canada thing right? Well, I disagree with their law on hate speech. Their law is their law though. The students had every bit of a right to protest her though as she did to say whatever nasty thing she was going to say since you never hear anything positive from her mouth I am assuming it was nasty. I think she got what she wanted out of this though. We're discussing her and she has some publicity.
She's made multiple statements about how we should invade Canada and that they're lucky we let them exist. That tends to piss off Canadians :D
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:50:10pm |
re: #47 Jadespring
I have some questions.
So Ann Coulter canceled her speech at one of the Universities she was supposed to speak at because a couple of thousand protesters showed up outside the venue. So we have two groups of people exercising their right to speak. Who's right and who's wrong here? Both right? One more right or wrong? Or is that just how the cookie crumbles?
Hey, you can't blame the Dems, that was in Canada, they don't have any Dems there...
/
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:50:11pm |
re: #73 Gus 802
It's right there in teh USS Constertution!111!!
I shall protest this tax by remaining my natural ghostly color.
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albusteve Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:50:19pm |
re: #69 SanFranciscoZionist
That's not the point, Gus. The point is that our Founding Fathers never meant for us to be taxed when we went to get skin cancer at an indoor tanning salon.
is there really gonna be a Beach Tax?...wouldn't surprise me
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:50:35pm |
re: #69 SanFranciscoZionist
That's not the point, Gus. The point is that our Founding Fathers never meant for us to be taxed when we went to get skin cancer at an indoor tanning salon.
hahahahaha
The Founding Fathers never intended for me to have to pay extra to the government for my goddamn vanity plate!
(now, when I get ASSFACE on my car, should the E be a 3?)
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Jadespring Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:51:12pm |
re: #55 SanFranciscoZionist
Well, it depends.
I think Coulter is WRONG about almost everything. I don't know what the protesters believed, except for not liking Ann, so I don't know if they're RIGHT.
She has a right to appear in a private venue and speak. They have a right to protest.
Why'd she cancel?
Well the news reports are saying because her organizers were fearful for her safety. Whether there's any truth or not I don't know. They weren't inside the venue.
As for why they were protesting I expect a lot of people decided to go out after some of the comments she made in last nights speech. Namely when a Muslim student asked a question which referred to comments she made in the past that all muslims are terrorists and should be banned from planes a ride flying carperts, Coulter told her to go 'ride a camel."
Lots of anti-gay marriage stuff in that speech as well.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:51:23pm |
re: #76 SanFranciscoZionist
I shall protest this tax by remaining my natural ghostly color.
You know how Lestat's skin looks in interview with a vampire? That's basically me :D
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:52:28pm |
re: #74 WindUpBird
She's made multiple statements about how we should invade Canada and that they're lucky we let them exist. That tends to piss off Canadians :D
What do Canadian protest signs look like, anyway? I imagine them being terribly polite.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:52:34pm |
re: #74 WindUpBird
She's made multiple statements about how we should invade Canada and that they're lucky we let them exist. That tends to piss off Canadians :D
Yeah I figured it was something nasty. I still hate banning speech based on emotional reaction though. We had a case I learned about in school Terminello Vs Chicago where this really nasty Catholic priest who was really racist and stuff wanted to speak and the city denied him since they thought he'd start a riot. He sued and the court ruled in favor of him. However, this is Canada and US law doesn't apply. I think she was just trying to stir up shit as always. Don't understand her raging hate on for Canada though. They're a key ally but Ann Coulter probably doesn't like anything. She seems like a miserable person.
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Gus Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:52:35pm |
re: #76 SanFranciscoZionist
I shall protest this tax by remaining my natural ghostly color.
There's always Boehner's Tanning Spray with Moisturizer™
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Jadespring Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:53:00pm |
re: #68 HappyWarrior
This is the Canada thing right? Well, I disagree with their law on hate speech. Their law is their law though. The students had every bit of a right to protest her though as she did to say whatever nasty thing she was going to say since you never hear anything positive from her mouth I am assuming it was nasty. I think she got what she wanted out of this though. We're discussing her and she has some publicity.
Yeah she's and the organizing are now of course crying the victim and saying her free speech was suppressed. She says she's going to file a human rights complaint or something.
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The Yankee Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:53:02pm |
re: #43 negativ
I totally agree with you. I hate all kinds of rallies, but they are a good place to meet women. Least the ones for Obama were.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:53:27pm |
re: #81 SanFranciscoZionist
What do Canadian protest signs look like, anyway? I imagine them being terribly polite.
I have a general dislike of this sort of thing, eh?
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HappyWarrior Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:53:39pm |
re: #61 Gus 802
Feeble attempt at continuing the anti-healthcare hysteria over at Drudge report with a headline reading:
OBAMA TANNING TAX STARTS NOW
Yep, that would be a 10% tanning salon tax. That means if you decide to get a single session over at Cherry Creek Tans you will have to fork over the outrageous-outrage of a sum of:
90 cents.
Well John Boehner's screwed. That dude looks like he steps in to a tanning salon every day. I've never used one but then again I tan fairly good naturally.
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Jadespring Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:55:07pm |
What I found interesting though is that one of the groups organizing this speaking tour is Free Press International. I don't know much about them except apparently one of it's advisors is Geert Wilder.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:55:23pm |
re: #85 Jadespring
Yeah she's and the organizing are now of course crying the victim and saying her free speech was suppressed. She says she's going to file a human rights complaint or something.
Yeah I had a feeling something like that would happen. La Typicale.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:55:36pm |
re: #79 Jadespring
Well the news reports are saying because her organizers were fearful for her safety. Whether there's any truth or not I don't know. They weren't inside the venue.
As for why they were protesting I expect a lot of people decided to go out after some of the comments she made in last nights speech. Namely when a Muslim student asked a question which referred to comments she made in the past that all muslims are terrorists and should be banned from planes a ride flying carperts, Coulter told her to go 'ride a camel."
Lots of anti-gay marriage stuff in that speech as well.
She's an unpleasant person, and I would certainly join a protest against her.
If the organizers were worried about her safety--well, I assume they had their reasons. But I'd want to know specifically why they were worried.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:57:16pm |
re: #84 Gus 802
There's always Boehner's Tanning Spray with Moisturizer™
I just don't see myself as an Orange American.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:58:42pm |
re: #85 Jadespring
Yeah she's and the organizing are now of course crying the victim and saying her free speech was suppressed. She says she's going to file a human rights complaint or something.
Doesn't sound as though her free speech was suppressed, unless the organizers were forbidden to hold the event because of fear of violence. If a paying gig was withdrawn because of nervousness, that's unfortunate--I can't go further than that for Ann Coulter--but not a violation of anyone's rights.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:59:05pm |
re: #87 jamesfirecat
I have a general dislike of this sort of thing, eh?
ANN COULTER HAS BEEN A BIT RUDE TO MY COUNTRY, EH?
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Jadespring Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:59:07pm |
re: #75 ausador
Hey, you can't blame the Dems, that was in Canada, they don't have any Dems there...
/
No we just have evil liberals. Though it's much harder to determine who exactly is one. It's basically, anyone I don't agree with.
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Stanghazi Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:59:08pm |
Hey hey! NJDHockey Fan is gone? Dang it. There's a photo of Obama and Bibi (large too) on the front page of the Huffington Post.
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Gus Tue, Mar 23, 2010 9:59:31pm |
re: #92 SanFranciscoZionist
I just don't see myself as an Orange-American.
FTFY. You forgot the hyphen for Rush Limabaugh's Hyphenated American's Meme and Outrage™
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:00:32pm |
re: #88 HappyWarrior
Well John Boehner's screwed. That dude looks like he steps in to a tanning salon every day. I've never used one but then again I tan fairly good naturally.
When my mother and I went to visit relatives in LA who we hadn't seen for many, many years, it was sort of scary. The color differential between a Semite living in San Francisco and a Semite from the same family living in Los Angeles is...startling.
We were very, very pale compared to the rest of the family.
I tan gorgeous, but I live in a place with little sun, and I don't want to court skin damage.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:00:43pm |
re: #94 SanFranciscoZionist
ANN COULTER HAS BEEN A BIT RUDE TO MY COUNTRY, EH?
We Canucks are mad as heck and are only going to put up with it for a reasonable amount of time as we wait for our apology, eh?
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Gus Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:02:17pm |
Anne Coulter now joins the ranks of Billy Bob Thornton and other American's banned from entering Canada.
/
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:02:25pm |
re: #91 SanFranciscoZionist
She's an unpleasant person, and I would certainly join a protest against her.
If the organizers were worried about her safety--well, I assume they had their reasons. But I'd want to know specifically why they were worried.
An earlier report I read said that someone had pulled the fire alarm at the venue and that she had recieved "threats of violence" so they pulled the plug on her speaking rather than risk it.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:03:44pm |
re: #97 Gus 802
FTFY. You forgot the hyphen for Rush Limabaugh's Hyphenated American's Meme and Outrage™
Oh, I got hyphens. I am the American they made the hyphen FOR.
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Jadespring Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:04:12pm |
re: #94 SanFranciscoZionist
ANN COULTER HAS BEEN A BIT RUDE TO MY COUNTRY, EH?
LOL. I'm just impressed that many people even showed up.
I do expect it has more to do with the anti-Islam, anti-gay stuff anti-women and just general douchiness. Most Canadians are used to blustery American whackos dissing the actual country the way she did. Usually laugh it off or just shake their heads.
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Jadespring Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:05:44pm |
re: #100 Gus 802
Anne Coulter now joins the ranks of Billy Bob Thornton and other American's banned from entering Canada.
/
Hee. She's not banned. She's going to Calgary next. I expect she will be much more welcomed there. More people per capita into her style.
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Gus Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:06:01pm |
re: #101 ausador
An earlier report I read said that someone had pulled the fire alarm at the venue and that she had recieved "threats of violence" so they pulled the plug on her speaking rather than risk it.
Some are saying that the Canadians missed out. Part of her speech was going to center in part on how Anne Coulter thinks that Canadians are not good citizens of North America and should join her in a quest in which she calls for Canadians to learn how to become "perfected Americans."
/
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:06:03pm |
re: #101 ausador
An earlier report I read said that someone had pulled the fire alarm at the venue and that she had recieved "threats of violence" so they pulled the plug on her speaking rather than risk it.
I can see their being worried in that case.
Dumbasses should realize that letting the speech happen and protesting it is better than using threats of violence to silence someone. Especially someone who makes a speciality of chewing on her toes.
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Gus Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:06:45pm |
re: #104 Jadespring
Hee. She's not banned. She's going to Calgary next. I expect she will be much more welcomed there. More people per capita into her style.
I know. Didn't know she was on a tour though.
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Cato the Elder Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:06:50pm |
Frum:
The thing that sustains a strong Fox network is the thing that undermines a strong Republican party
Thinking about this seriously.
Dammit! I hate when anyone makes me be serious!
Instead, let's just have a scene from "House of Cards" where the Murdoch stand-in tells the future Prime Minister what's what.
OK, old chap?
The GOP is bought and paid for. You may say the same thing about the Democrats, but at least they're not acorns pretending to be Old Oak Trees with mothufukin' yellow ribbons round 'em.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:07:23pm |
re: #105 Gus 802
Some are saying that the Canadians missed out. Part of her speech was going to center in part on how Anne Coulter thinks that Canadians are not good citizens of North America and should join her in a quest in which she calls for Canadians to learn how to become "perfected Americans."
/
Wow there wouldn't be anything at all creepy if say, someone from Russia was doing that in Poland....
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Jadespring Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:08:34pm |
re: #101 ausador
An earlier report I read said that someone had pulled the fire alarm at the venue and that she had recieved "threats of violence" so they pulled the plug on her speaking rather than risk it.
The fire alarm thing has disappeared from some of reports so not sure if that happened or not. It's hard to tell and call me skeptical about anything her organizers say happened. Not saying that people can't get rowdy like that up here but I have to consider the source as well.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:11:35pm |
re: #109 jamesfirecat
Wow there wouldn't be anything at all creepy if say, someone from Russia was doing that in Poland...
Yeah it is creepy. HOnestly, there are times when I wonder if Coulter is serious. I mean the way she's made McCarthy out to be a near saint and calling all the Democratic presidents of the Cold War traitors even had David Horowitz who I've never been a fan of calling her ignorant of history since Horowitz pointed out that Truman was one of the biggest cold warriors of all.
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jamesfirecat Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:13:53pm |
re: #111 HappyWarrior
Yeah it is creepy. HOnestly, there are times when I wonder if Coulter is serious. I mean the way she's made McCarthy out to be a near saint and calling all the Democratic presidents of the Cold War traitors even had David Horowitz who I've never been a fan of calling her ignorant of history since Horowitz pointed out that Truman was one of the biggest cold warriors of all.
There's only one logical way to explain this, drum role please.....
She's a MAN! No wait sorry sorry, I mean she's a plant! And not one of those hibiscus things either!
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Bagua Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:16:25pm |
re: #72 Racer X
Israeli government to be formally accused over ‘Mossad’ assassination
Accused? Commended would be an appropriate word is a sane world.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:16:55pm |
re: #110 Jadespring
The fire alarm thing has disappeared from some of reports so not sure if that happened or not. It's hard to tell and call me skeptical about anything her organizers say happened. Not saying that people can't get rowdy like that up here but I have to consider the source as well.
This is a bit tricky for me. I hate Ann Coulter, I think she is despicable. But I have seen pro-Israel speakers in the Bay Area get shut down through similar tactics, and it sucks.
I am torn between "Yep, could have happened just like that," and a suspicion--wingnuts hate the Canadian Human Rights Commission. If she goes to them, I think she's doing it for the publicity.
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Cato the Elder Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:17:37pm |
re: #111 HappyWarrior
Yeah it is creepy. HOnestly, there are times when I wonder if Coulter is serious. I mean the way she's made McCarthy out to be a near saint and calling all the Democratic presidents of the Cold War traitors even had David Horowitz who I've never been a fan of calling her ignorant of history since Horowitz pointed out that Truman was one of the biggest cold warriors of all.
Ann Coulter is pig-ignorant of all but the talking points she memorized from reading Ayn Rand, whose sex life she couldn't hope to match in a mahamanvantara (311,040,000,000,000 terrestrial years). But she keeps hoping John Bolton will call.
Given that he was reluctant even to do Pamz Gellerz, I doubt she will reach fulfillment in this lifetime.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:20:00pm |
re: #112 jamesfirecat
There's only one logical way to explain this, drum role please...
She's a MAN! No wait sorry sorry, I mean she's a plant! And not one of those hibiscus things either!
Haha, who knows. I think it would actually be hilarious if she was just some actress who devised this as her ultimate role but given what I actually know about Coulter I doubt it's the case. I used to be bothered by people like her but now they just make me laugh since they're so out there.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:22:23pm |
re: #114 SanFranciscoZionist
This is a bit tricky for me. I hate Ann Coulter, I think she is despicable. But I have seen pro-Israel speakers in the Bay Area get shut down through similar tactics, and it sucks.
I am torn between "Yep, could have happened just like that," and a suspicion--wingnuts hate the Canadian Human Rights Commission. If she goes to them, I think she's doing it for the publicity.
Yep, she's filing with the CHRC. This is bullshit stunt.
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Jadespring Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:23:09pm |
re: #114 SanFranciscoZionist
This is a bit tricky for me. I hate Ann Coulter, I think she is despicable. But I have seen pro-Israel speakers in the Bay Area get shut down through similar tactics, and it sucks.
I am torn between "Yep, could have happened just like that," and a suspicion--wingnuts hate the Canadian Human Rights Commission. If she goes to them, I think she's doing it for the publicity.
Oh definitely publicity and she's has full backing from Ezra Levant who is a well know hard right conservative figure that has been fought the commission on a number of occasions. Unfortunately it does play into everything that he wants. He's salivating over it right now. He'll use her, for his agenda, no question about it.
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albusteve Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:30:32pm |
Ann Coulter has you right where she wants you...if you think she doesn't read LGF you are naive...give her some more, feed the beast while she laughs all the way to the bank to deposit her controversial loot...and remember, you helped donated
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:32:11pm |
re: #119 albusteve
Ann Coulter has you right where she wants you...if you think she doesn't read LGF you are naive...give her some more, feed the beast while she laughs all the way to the bank to deposit her controversial loot...and remember, you helped donated
Hi, Ann!
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Gus Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:32:58pm |
re: #114 SanFranciscoZionist
This is a bit tricky for me. I hate Ann Coulter, I think she is despicable. But I have seen pro-Israel speakers in the Bay Area get shut down through similar tactics, and it sucks.
I am torn between "Yep, could have happened just like that," and a suspicion--wingnuts hate the Canadian Human Rights Commission. If she goes to them, I think she's doing it for the publicity.
Coulter's appearances in Canada was already pre-scripted by the American far-right as a vehicle to spread their sentiments against the Canadian Human Rights Commission. This revolved around several imaginary (some would say inventive) scenarios including what ifs such as "could she be fined" or "could she be arrested."
This event was canceled due to security concerns. However, that won't stop the far-right from using it as an example of "liberal censorship." As was indicated above Coulter now moves on to Calgary so she is free to roam in Canada regardless of the conspiracies.
In an ironic twist Anne Coulter is now threatening to file a complaint with the Canadian Human Rights Commission. Had none of this occurred she would have traveled to Canada to spew her ignorance without our knowledge. As Mark Twain once said, "It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt." I think it is best to allow Anne Coulter every opportunity to prove this point -- one that she does quite readily.
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albusteve Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:36:29pm |
you elevate talking heads to elitists stature and they laugh in your face...pundits rule the political scene because you let them...you give them authority and a platform to speak...and when they turn on your principles you give them even more attention...Beck and Coulter exist because people want them and allow them....what else is there to discuss besides what Ann Coulter is up to?....even bad press is worth a fortune, but people cannot stop themselves....AmIdol politics
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Jadespring Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:37:28pm |
re: #119 albusteve
Ann Coulter has you right where she wants you...if you think she doesn't read LGF you are naive...give her some more, feed the beast while she laughs all the way to the bank to deposit her controversial loot...and remember, you helped donated
You are a strange man sometimes.
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albusteve Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:39:05pm |
re: #123 Jadespring
You are a strange man sometimes.
yeah, I take care of my business and Ann Coulter is not part of my scene....really strange eh?
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:40:31pm |
re: #124 albusteve
yeah, I take care of my business and Ann Coulter is not part of my scene...really strange eh?
And of course, you're lecturing us on this in the middle of the night because...
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albusteve Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:42:24pm |
re: #125 SanFranciscoZionist
And of course, you're lecturing us on this in the middle of the night because...
because I'm awake...I'll be sure to repost my thoughts in the morning for more effect....hahaha!
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Bagua Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:45:15pm |
re: #125 SanFranciscoZionist
And of course, you're lecturing us on this in the middle of the night because...
He has a good point. Politics, media, Hollywood, all self regarding publicity hounds. It's all drama an popularity contests, to be loved or hated. Just to be noticed is the goal and the game is all about the players.
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Gus Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:46:10pm |
Right. A plea for self-censorship while attempting to speak out against censorship. Do not speak of Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, George Galloway, Noam Chomsky, Jessie Jackson, or Al Sharpton because it only feeds into their bank account and they're putting you in a place they would like you to be.
Yes, this is a new free market phenomenon. You don't have to buy their books or go to one of their lectures. All you have to do is talk about them and that generate revenue.
The most interesting feature of this somnambulating theory is that we shouldn't be speaking of them at all. The most interesting part is how they practice this silence with regards to Sharpton, Soros, etc.
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Jadespring Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:46:47pm |
re: #122 albusteve
you elevate talking heads to elitists stature and they laugh in your face...pundits rule the political scene because you let them...you give them authority and a platform to speak...and when they turn on your principles you give them even more attention...Beck and Coulter exist because people want them and allow them...what else is there to discuss besides what Ann Coulter is up to?...even bad press is worth a fortune, but people cannot stop themselves...AmIdol politics
Ah no Steve. Coulter is but a vehicle in this case. I could give a rats ass about what she says or what she does. I've barely heard a peep and barely a peep from people talking about her lately to the point where I wondered if she was even still alive. She at least seems to have fallen into wingnut has been land or something. That she has to travel up north to get some press is pretty pathetic.
The only reason I even brought her up here was because of questions about free speech and sought out some opinions about it.
And if Ann is indeed reading this here's what I have to say to her. Laugh all you want lady but you are only being used as a pawn here. Have fun and make some money but don't think that you yourself are really all that relevant.
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Bagua Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:51:14pm |
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palomino Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:54:22pm |
Baby Killer screamer rakes it in, makes half-assed Wilsonian apology
IMHO the GOP fever pitch is getting ratcheted up even farther in the wake of Sunday's vote. Check out the comments--this is Politico, not Free Republic. Many of the comments have something to do with getting armed and leading some sort of violent insurgency--Second Civil War, Second Revolution, First Teabag War, whatever. Harsh rhetoric like this doesn't usually concern me, but this is troubling shit.
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albusteve Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:54:31pm |
re: #129 Jadespring
Ah no Steve. Coulter is but a vehicle in this case. I could give a rats ass about what she says or what she does. I've barely heard a peep and barely a peep from people talking about her lately to the point where I wondered if she was even still alive. She at least seems to have fallen into wingnut has been land or something. That she has to travel up north to get some press is pretty pathetic.
The only reason I even brought her up here was because of questions about free speech and sought out some opinions about it.
And if Ann is indeed reading this here's what I have to say to her. Laugh all you want lady but you are only being used as a pawn here. Have fun and make some money but don't think that you yourself are really all that relevant.
you are the pawn, or people like you...you have nothing and she is a gazillionaire....go figure with your righteous indignation
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Cato the Elder Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:54:48pm |
re: #129 Jadespring
I've barely heard a peep and barely a peep from people talking about her lately to the point where I wondered if she was even still alive.
Well might you wonder. Her daily caloric intake seems to consist of whatever testosterone she can suck from Glenn Beck.
Michelle Malkin, on the other hand, seems to be well fed off whatever comes from the mouths of her male counterparts.
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albusteve Tue, Mar 23, 2010 10:55:37pm |
re: #133 Cato the Elder
Well might you wonder. Her daily caloric intake seems to consist of whatever testosterone she can suck from Glenn Beck.
Michelle Malkin, on the other hand, seems to be well fed off whatever comes from the mouths of her male counterparts.
mouths?...that's generous
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Jadespring Tue, Mar 23, 2010 11:00:15pm |
re: #132 albusteve
you are the pawn, or people like you...you have nothing and she is a gazillionaire...go figure with your righteous indignation
Well maybe to people like you who seem to think that being a gazillionaire is some sort of indication of ones superiority or higher value I am but a pawn.
If it make you feel better to say I have nothing (whatever that means) then go right ahead. Doesn't bother me in the least.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 23, 2010 11:07:57pm |
OK. I'm going to sleep. Sweet dreams, lizards.
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Jadespring Tue, Mar 23, 2010 11:08:28pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Mar 23, 2010 11:18:00pm |
re: #119 albusteve
Ann Coulter has you right where she wants you...if you think she doesn't read LGF you are naive...give her some more, feed the beast while she laughs all the way to the bank to deposit her controversial loot...and remember, you helped donated
I think she doesn't read LGF. Why would she? What value would someone who games the political machinery glean from reading the words of comparatively moderate political bloggers and commenters?
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Cato the Elder Wed, Mar 24, 2010 1:06:09am |
I'm afraid I don't enjoy the luxury of choice that Frum has.
Will work for fucks.
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Solomon2 Wed, Mar 24, 2010 9:14:05am |
That must be why a policy wonk like me can't make sense of the Republicans, because I don't watch Fox or read Ann Coulter or anyone else in the looney bin...
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joest73 Wed, Mar 24, 2010 9:33:09am |
If the Republicans are working for Fox News then the Democrats are taking orders from MSNBC. Isn't Alan Grayson a regular guest on every show on that network?
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stayfrosty Wed, Mar 24, 2010 10:14:14am |
I think pseudo-conservative David Frum is just mad that the only network he's allowed on, the rabidly leftist MSNBC, has less than half the views of the Cartoon Network. And no, I don't watch Fox News--or any cable news for that matter.
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Jaerik Wed, Mar 24, 2010 10:38:04am |
If folks like Frum were back in control of their party, I might consider voting GOP again. But so far, after Obama being the first person with a (D) by their name I've ever voted for, I feel no compulsion to switch back to (R) any time soon.
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