Thursday Night Music: Regina Spektor, 'Us'

A scholarship program for the children of dead soldiers is raising questions among some professors at the University of Regina.

They say they're concerned about Project Hero, a program that pays the tuition of students who have had a parent die while on military duty for Canada.

More than 80 universities and colleges in Canada have committed to the project, which pays for four years of tuition, plus $1,000 for books.

U of R president Vianne Timmons announced two weeks ago the university would provide the scholarship, but that has led to a campus controversy.

Sixteen professors have signed a letter to Timmons stating the program glorifies military action and they don't want their school to be part of it.

Among those with concerns is Jeffrey Webber, who teaches political science and who says the name of the program celebrates military intervention abroad.

"We think this is a glorification of the Afghan effort," he said.

Excuse me, asshole, this is not about your perception of political symbolism and the dialectic of imperialism or whatever. It is about children, about 200 of them so far, who have lost a parent through no fault of their own, but through acts of public policy.

Our Precious Bodily Fluids Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:32:57pm

Hmm. Absent the video, this seems like a watered-down Philip Glass / Bjork collaboration.

However, I realize I'm an idiot and will therefore give it several more chances.

Silvergirl Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:34:28pm

I have her album "Far". It was featured here once.

Dark_Falcon Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:36:59pm

re: #7 Shiplord Kirel

Speaking of Regina, Saskatchewan in this case:

Regina profs pan free tuition for soldiers' kids

Excuse me, asshole, this is not about your perception of political symbolism and the dialectic of imperialism or whatever. It is about children, about 200 of them so far, who have lost a parent through no fault of their own, but through acts of public policy.

Agreed. This is a case of leftists taking anti-war activism to an obscene extreme. It does not justify the far greater nuttiness we've seen from the American right, but it is shitty.

Irenicum Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:38:07pm

Once again Regina has shown amazing artistic virtuosity, The visuals are great, as usual, but her lyrics speak to a level of concern and criticism that is mature and maturing. I can't wait to get her new album. Thank you Charles.

albusteve Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:38:37pm

she seems pretty average to me as a vocalist...kinda talking the lyrics in a monotone...not quite...I don't hear much range or any instrumental quality to her voice, but what do I know

Irenicum Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:41:53pm

For me Regina is more important as a lyricist than as a vocalist. I love her vocals mind you, but I'm much more wowed by the content of her lyrics. She's asking some pretty deep questions. I can respect that.

Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:47:12pm

re: #12 albusteve

she seems pretty average to me as a vocalist..

She is pretty sloppy when it comes to pitch but that's part of the appeal. Beat's the hell out of Lady Gaga autopitched stuff and has a certain punk/garage band thing. It's a real voice, glorious in all imperfection. Her accent also helps the quirky appeal.

Velvet Elvis Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:47:47pm

Cat Power -- Metal Heart

Youtube Video

Irenicum Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:48:17pm

Well, as Regina would say, we're all living in a den of thieves. So with that I bid y'all g'nite. See ya on the other side.

Dark_Falcon Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:48:54pm

re: #16 Irenicum

Well, as Regina would say, we're all living in a den of thieves. So with that I bid y'all g'nite. See ya on the other side.

Sleep well, Friend.

albusteve Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:49:43pm

amazing, addicting, exceptionalre: #14 Killgore Trout

She is pretty sloppy when it comes to pitch but that's part of the appeal. Beat's the hell out of Lady Gaga autopitched stuff and has a certain punk/garage band thing. It's a real voice, glorious in all imperfection. Her accent also helps the quirky appeal.

that is a good critique...I've never heard Gaga, but I'll take your word for it

Mark Pennington Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:51:51pm

re: #2 LudwigVanQuixote

I love love love Regina. She is the true heir apparent to Kate Bush and Tori Amos.

ditto. I traveled to see her perform at Coachella a few years ago. She's fantastic.

albusteve Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:52:24pm

maybe the best female vocalists ever...in our generation at least

Youtube Video

albusteve Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:55:02pm

re: #19 beekiller

ditto. I traveled to see her perform at Coachella a few years ago. She's fantastic.

hats off to you!...chasing down an artist to pay them to entertain is the epitome of fandom...road trip!

Stanghazi Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:55:59pm

re: #21 albusteve

hats off to you!...chasing down an artist to pay them to entertain is the epitome of fandom...road trip!

Yep, it is. And it's never a bad time.

albusteve Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:59:34pm

re: #22 Stanley Sea

Yep, it is. And it's never a bad time.

not with my posse...I'm a Little Feat groupie..lots of gigs, and hotels and miles, state to state...what a blast

Mark Pennington Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:00:36pm

That was my last road trip too. Work keeps me stuck here lately...damn.

Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:04:05pm

Charles, this is the umpteenth time you've posted an RS vid.

I must admit that I've never listened before, as my appreciation of "new music" practically died after Norah Jones made her debut.

But this one, I listened to.

Whew. Vocal control. Sense and sensibility. Pride and anti-prejudice.

You send me scurrying to iTunes for more.

One thing I will say - and I've thought this way ever since MTV burst on the scene - I still prefer my music straight up, without visual aids.

It's like PowerPoint, really. Just give me your gorram lecture or presentation without the bogus post-ironic post-post-modern post-post-post-deconstructionist graphics. Either it stands on its own, or nothing can save it.

Regina doesn't need saving.

Dark_Falcon Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:04:56pm

re: #24 beekiller

That was my last road trip too. Work keeps me stuck here lately...damn.

Just be grateful you still have a job. I know that work is often a pain, but not working is worse. The good news is that some the interviews I've had these last couple day lead me to feel that I may be back to the lesser pain quite soon.

Gus Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:05:15pm

re: #7 Shiplord Kirel

Speaking of Regina, Saskatchewan in this case:

Regina profs pan free tuition for soldiers' kids

Excuse me, asshole, this is not about your perception of political symbolism and the dialectic of imperialism or whatever. It is about children, about 200 of them so far, who have lost a parent through no fault of their own, but through acts of public policy.

You know. Guys like this Jeffrey Webber (still) burn me up. I don't see how a scholarship in these soldiers names glorifies war. This cretin even goes as far as comparing these war dead to "workplace accidents." No doubt it would be easy to detect hypocrisy on his part and he more than likely does not see the death of one of his idol, Che Guevara, a result of workplace accident.

Here's Jeffrey Webbers CV if you will:

After the debt crisis of the 1980s and the parallel right-wing neoliberal assault across Latin America, roughly the last decade witnessed resurgence in leftist movements and governments in the region, says Webber. As imperial wars advanced in other areas of the world, Latin America served as a beacon of hope, a site of resistance.

"Latin American peasant, worker and indigenous radicalism placed revolution back in the vocabulary of leftists across the planet. At the same time, centre-left regimes assumed power in Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, Brazil, and elsewhere, only to perpetuate the neoliberal capitalist projects that preceded them. The possibilities and limitations of the Hugo Chávez and Evo Morales governments in Venezuela and Bolivia respectively are raising fundamental questions concerning the plausibility and character of advancing a twenty-first-century socialism against the ravages of global capitalism..."

From this we can see he is yet another admirer of the democratically elected dictator of Venezuela. Here we can see a review of Hugo's military career. The military aspirations of Mr. Chavez is no secret including recent arms agreements with Russia. I need not say anything about Mr. Chavez's alignment with the totalitarian Ahmadinejad -- a man intent on a nuclear Iran. We should ask Mr. Webber to comment on these associations and characteristics of one of his revolutionary heroes, Hugo Chavez.

Onto Jeffrey Webber's blurb at the University of Regina website:

Jeffery R. Webber began teaching at the University of Regina in the Fall of 2009. He spent the last several years splitting time between Canada, Europe, and various countries in Latin America. His main focus has been Bolivia, but he is now expanding his research into the rest of the Latin America. A revised version of his doctoral dissertation will be published as Red October: Left-Indigenous Struggles in Modern Bolivia (Brill Academic Publishers, 2010). In addition, he is currently at work on four major projects: a new book manuscript, Rebellion to Reform in Bolivia: Indigenous Liberation and Class Struggle under Evo Morales (Haymarket Books, 2010); a collective volume on the new Latin American Left, co-edited with historian Barry Carr (Rowman and Littlefield, 2010); a Spanish-to-English translation of Stefan Gandler's major text, Marxismo Crítico en México, or, Critical Marxism in Mexico; and, finally, early research preparations for an eventual book manuscript, Canada in the Americas: Imperialism and Resistance in the Age of Neoliberalism, to be co-authored with Todd Gordon. Webber is also an active member on the editorial boards of Historical Materialism, Latin American Perspectives, and New Socialist.

Well, that says it all then.

Silvergirl Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:05:18pm

All my dreams are on their way.

Good-night.

albusteve Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:06:10pm

re: #24 beekiller

That was my last road trip too. Work keeps me stuck here lately...damn.

I was self employed, my wife a RN...we had all the free time we wanted, not boasting here at all...but we would head east or south, pick up on the tour and just party away for a week or two...it's not just the shows, it's the people...I still do that when I can...support the vibe

Mark Pennington Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:07:05pm

re: #25 Cato the Elder

Charles, this is the umpteenth time you've posted an RS vid.

I must admit that I've never listened before, as my appreciation of "new music" practically died after Norah Jones made her debut.

But this one, I listened to.

Whew. Vocal control. Sense and sensibility. Pride and anti-prejudice.

You send me scurrying to iTunes for more.

One thing I will say - and I've thought this way ever since MTV burst on the scene - I still prefer my music straight up, without visual aids.

It's like PowerPoint, really. Just give me your gorram lecture or presentation without the bogus post-ironic post-post-modern post-post-post-deconstructionist graphics. Either it stands on its own, or nothing can save it.

Regina doesn't need saving.

You have one hell of a way with words, sir.

Gus Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:09:55pm

re: #27 Gus 802

Wanted to add that when people like Jeffrey Webber make a stand against the military or wars a little alarm goes off inside my heard. They're not really against wars or the military. They're just against war and military men that are not on "their side." I'm sure Mr. Webber would welcome an armed struggle against the "imperialist forces" he sees dancing inside his head. When Mr. Webber speaks highly of Hugo Chavez he is also speaking highly of a man with a rather extensive military record. He is also speaking highly of a man that support one of the most destabilizing regimes in the Middle East and one that could lead to a nuclear confrontation in the future.

Mark Pennington Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:10:11pm

re: #26 Dark_Falcon

Just be grateful you still have a job. I know that work is often a pain, but not working is worse. The good news is that some the interviews I've had these last couple day lead me to feel that I may be back to the lesser pain quite soon.

Even though I haven't been posting lately...I've kept up with you guys daily. I telepathically sent you a message that I was thinking about you. You are a great person and I hope you find something you enjoy.

Bubblehead II Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:11:25pm

re: #2 LudwigVanQuixote

I have one Tori Amos CD (Under The Pink). Never could get into her, Enya on the other hand.

Enya - Caribbean Blue (HD)

Enya - Orinoco Flow

Enya - Only Time (Original)

Mark Pennington Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:12:28pm

re: #29 albusteve

I was self employed, my wife a RN...we had all the free time we wanted, not boasting here at all...but we would head east or south, pick up on the tour and just party away for a week or two...it's not just the shows, it's the people...I still do that when I can...support the vibe

I bet you have seen it all, man. I checked out your Little Feat on youtube. Pretty good stuff.

Mark Pennington Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:15:23pm

re: #33 Bubblehead II

I have one Tori Amos CD (Under The Pink). Never could get into her, Enya on the other hand.

Enya - Caribbean Blue (HD)

Enya - Orinoco Flow

Enya - Only Time (Original)

Tori is definitely an acquired taste.

Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:15:50pm

re: #33 Bubblehead II

I have one Tori Amos CD (Under The Pink). Never could get into her, Enya on the other hand.

Enya - Caribbean Blue (HD)

Enya - Orinoco Flow

Enya - Only Time (Original)

I strongly recommend Tori's first album, Little Earthquakes and Choir Girl Hotel when introducing people to her work.

Youtube Video

Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:16:42pm

re: #36 LudwigVanQuixote

I strongly recommend Tori's first album, Little Earthquakes and Choir Girl Hotel when introducing people to her work.

[Video]

OOPS here is spark... It didn't copy

Youtube Video

Soap_Man Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:18:08pm

re: #14 Killgore Trout

She is pretty sloppy when it comes to pitch but that's part of the appeal. Beat's the hell out of Lady Gaga autopitched stuff and has a certain punk/garage band thing. It's a real voice, glorious in all imperfection. Her accent also helps the quirky appeal.

My girlfriend is obsessed with Lady Gaga, while I find her to be average. I've taken up calling her Lady So-So. It gets under the GFs skin, which is what makes it so fun. :)

Dark_Falcon Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:18:10pm

re: #32 beekiller

Even though I haven't been posting lately...I've kept up with you guys daily. I telepathically sent you a message that I was thinking about you. You are a great person and I hope you find something you enjoy.

Thank you.

Bubblehead II Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:18:22pm

re: #36 LudwigVanQuixote

ROTFLMAO!

I think you might want to double check that link. A couple of dogs chasing each other around with some guy laughing in the background isn't a very good intro for an singer.

albusteve Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:20:54pm

re: #34 beekiller

I bet you have seen it all, man. I checked out your Little Feat on youtube. Pretty good stuff.

I've hardly seen it all...but I've seen a lot...if you are a hardcore fan, Little Feat will give you an all tour, all area lammie...you get to do all the soundchecks, shows, the backstage thing...hang out on the tour bus...meet all the performers etc, relax and enjoy a bit of that life...it's cool...there are less than a hundred of them issued every tour season...that's how I got to hob nob

Mark Pennington Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:22:06pm

re: #37 LudwigVanQuixote

OOPS here is spark... It didn't copy

[Video]

I own(and love) them all but Boys For Pele is my favorite. I love the harpsichord.

Stanghazi Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:28:47pm

re: #36 LudwigVanQuixote

Oh to be a dog. That was hilarious. Even by accident.

Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:30:59pm

OK a Tori intro post.

please listen to her songs long enough for them to go contrapuntal.

Spark

Jackie's Strength

Crucify

Hey Jupiter

Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:32:31pm

re: #42 beekiller

I own(and love) them all but Boys For Pele is my favorite. I love the harpsichord.

Boys for Pele is a lesson for all men.

It ias:

Do not break the heart of a very talented female singer songwriter. She will create an album about why you are a putz.

Obdicut Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:33:15pm

re: #10 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. This is a case of leftists taking anti-war activism to an obscene extreme. It does not justify the far greater nuttiness we've seen from the American right, but it is shitty.

Wholehearted agreement. This is no better than the Catholic church expelling the child of gay parents. In fact, it's even crueler.

Hint: If you want the moral high ground, don't fuck with children who have lost a parent.

bwrader Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:33:21pm

...

Mark Pennington Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:34:29pm

re: #44 LudwigVanQuixote

OK a Tori intro post.

please listen to her songs long enough for them to go contrapuntal.

Spark

[Video]

Very nice choices. Do you think she makes concept albums because her fans demand them or because she wants to?

Obdicut Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:34:33pm

re: #47 bwrader

That's your 10th comment? Are you going for the 'strong but silent' thing?

Dark_Falcon Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:34:52pm

re: #46 Obdicut

Wholehearted agreement. This is no better than the Catholic church expelling the child of gay parents. In fact, it's even crueler.

Hint: If you want the moral high ground, don't fuck with children who have lost a parent.

Quite Concur.

Velvet Elvis Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:35:25pm

Richard and Linda Thompson -- Walking on a Wire

Youtube Video

Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:35:46pm

re: #48 beekiller

Very nice choices. Do you think she makes concept albums because her fans demand them or because she wants to?

I think Tori just sits and writes songs and has snatches of musical ideas all day. After a while, she puts ones together that tell a story.

Gus Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:35:53pm

Hand-Rub-Gate

@ 0:14

Youtube Video

Mark Pennington Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:36:34pm

re: #45 LudwigVanQuixote

Boys for Pele is a lesson for all men.

It ias:

Do not break the heart of a very talented female singer songwriter. She will create an album about why you are a putz.

ah, the Eric breakup. She laid his memory at the foot of Pele.

Shiplord Kirel Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:37:08pm

re: #27 Gus 802

Fantastic catch, Gus. The guy is an unalloyed, outright Red and Chavista lackey. I wonder if he is getting a little stipend from them? There was a prof at the U of North Texas who worked for several years at the terrorist run University of Nablus and continued to collect a salary from them after he joined UNT. He is retired now, no doubt enjoying his blood money.

Stanghazi Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:37:50pm

re: #53 Gus 802

Hand-Rub-Gate

@ 0:14

[Video]

I saw that, strange germophobe.

goddamnedfrank Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:38:25pm

re: #36 LudwigVanQuixote

I strongly recommend Tori's first album, Little Earthquakes and Choir Girl Hotel when introducing people to her work.

[Video]

Mr. Zebra is one of my favorites. I saw her about nine years ago at the Paramount in Seattle, second row tickets.

Youtube Video

Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:40:31pm

Some more Awesome Tori:

Bouncing off clouds

Youtube Video

500 miles

Youtube Video

Dragon

Youtube Video

Abnormally Attracted to Sin

Youtube Video

Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:41:09pm

re: #54 beekiller

ah, the Eric breakup. She laid his memory at the foot of Pele.

A true fan! Join the ranks of the few the proud the straight male Tori fans!

Gus Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:41:21pm

re: #55 Shiplord Kirel

Fantastic catch, Gus. The guy is an unalloyed, outright Red and Chavista lackey. I wonder if he is getting a little stipend from them? There was a prof at the U of North Texas who worked for several years at the terrorist run University of Nablus and continued to collect a salary from them after he joined UNT. He is retired now, no doubt enjoying his blood money.

Anything's possible. But usually I see guys like Webber as posers or more roughly, bullshit artists. Like a lot of people they practice a great deal of self-censorship. That would include his denial of an armed military struggle that it required to create the communist state in China by way of Mao who is in fact studied at military institutions and is considered one of the great military strategists. There are other military historical examples with regards to this.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:41:48pm

So my partner wants a used Jeep Wrangler, doesn't want to spend more than $5000 or so. Anyone know anything about Jeeps? I know nothing about offroad vehicles :D

Velvet Elvis Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:42:10pm

Sandy Denny -- Why Knows Where the Time Goes?

Youtube Video

(Watch this if you don't know who she is)

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:42:26pm

re: #59 LudwigVanQuixote

A true fan! Join the ranks of the few the proud the straight male Tori fans!

I saw Tori in Scotland in 1995 live, fantastic show!

I'm not a REAL Tori fan, but I'm a giant fan of the song "Past the Mission"

Dark_Falcon Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:42:57pm

re: #60 Gus 802

Anything's possible. But usually I see guys like Webber as posers or more roughly, bullshit artists. Like a lot of people they practice a great deal of self-censorship. That would include his denial of an armed military struggle that it required to create the communist state in China by way of Mao who is in fact studied at military institutions and is considered one of the great military strategists. There are other military historical examples with regards to this.

He actually denies China had a Civil War? How does he do that?

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:43:20pm

re: #45 LudwigVanQuixote

Boys for Pele is a lesson for all men.

It ias:

Do not break the heart of a very talented female singer songwriter. She will create an album about why you are a putz.

And then she will take pictures of herself suckling a pig on her album insert.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:44:47pm

re: #10 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. This is a case of leftists taking anti-war activism to an obscene extreme. It does not justify the far greater nuttiness we've seen from the American right, but it is shitty.

Totally agree here

There's sort of a myopia where anti-war activists just become consumed by their own rhetoric, and it becomes a religion to them.

I don't like those people, they freak me out :(

Gus Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:45:02pm

re: #64 Dark_Falcon

He actually denies China had a Civil War? How does he do that?

Oh, I'm sure he doesn't. I'm just struck by how someone in the case of Webber who seems to be a strong proponent of Marxist "struggles" can at the same time claim to be anti-militarist. I'm sure he accepts it in his mind but will not speak much of the military aspect of Marxism in public.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:46:06pm

re: #28 Silvergirl

All my dreams are on their way.

Good-night.

Youtube Video

This was my FAVORITE SONG when I was 13. :D

Mark Pennington Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:46:43pm

re: #59 LudwigVanQuixote

A true fan! Join the ranks of the few the proud the straight male Tori fans!

Aren't we called Toriphiles? :D

Bubblehead II Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:47:20pm

re: #44 LudwigVanQuixote

Just so you know, It is going to take a bit to review those links. Slow computer and it likes to take its time. But so far I like what I am hearing.

Perhaps I was hasty in my decision and have missed out.

/Like that has never happened before

Varek Raith Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:48:56pm

Russian bombers 'intercepted in British airspace'

London, England (CNN) -- Rare photos of Russian strategic bomber jets purportedly intercepted in British airspace show Moscow's war machine is becoming increasingly bold, analysts said Thursday as Russia denied any territorial violations.
Britain's Ministry of Defence released images it said were taken earlier this month of two Russian Tu-160 bombers -- known as Blackjacks by NATO forces -- as they entered UK airspace near the Outer Hebrides islands off Scotland's northwest coast.

It said the March 10 incident, which resulted in crystal clear images of the planes against clear blue skies and a dramatic sunset, was one of many intercepts carried out by British Royal Air Force crews in just over 12 months.

"This is not an unusual incident, and many people may be surprised to know that our crews have successfully scrambled to intercept Russian aircraft on more than 20 occasions since the start of 2009," Wing Cdr. Mark Gorringe, of the RAF's 111 Squadron, said in a statement.

Shiplord Kirel Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:49:03pm

re: #60 Gus 802

This kind of thing is one reason I am so contemptuous of neo-McCarthyites like Beck and Coulter. It is just ridiculous to look for red plotters and clandestine agents when outright communists and their fellow travelers are right there in our faces all the time. Other than Soviet espionage, which is a different issue and not usually the work of ideologues anyway, there has never been anything secret or hidden about communist agitation and propaganda in the west.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:49:04pm

re: #69 beekiller

Aren't we called Toriphiles? :D

You know, I listen to bands that sing about travelling through time with Rasputin, and posessed runeswords that turn on their creators, but you guys are weird. :D

Varek Raith Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:50:38pm

re: #73 WindUpBird

You know, I listen to bands that sing about travelling through time with Rasputin, and posessed runeswords that turn on their creators, but you guys are weird. :D

Pfft, only an amateur lets their own runesword turn on them...
:P

Gus Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:51:26pm

re: #67 Gus 802

Oh, I'm sure he doesn't. I'm just struck by how someone in the case of Webber who seems to be a strong proponent of Marxist "struggles" can at the same time claim to be anti-militarist. I'm sure he accepts it in his mind but will not speak much of the military aspect of Marxism in public.

As in how can he be against University of Regina scholarships for the children of fallen soldiers of the Afghanistan War claiming that it would glorify war. Juxtaposing this with the military history of Marxism, Mao, Stalin, Guervara, Castro, and indeed Hugo Chavez who himself was in the Venezuelan army from 1975–1992 and this includes intentions of a military coup. Adding to this we also have the strong militarism of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela. As I already pointed out, Webber holds up Chavez in high esteem.

Mark Pennington Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:51:52pm

re: #73 WindUpBird

You know, I listen to bands that sing about travelling through time with Rasputin, and posessed runeswords that turn on their creators, but you guys are weird. :D

lol That's what she calls her fans.

Dark_Falcon Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:53:19pm

re: #71 Varek Raith

Russian bombers 'intercepted in British airspace'

I posted that story earlier today, but thanks for reposting it. If anyone here hasn't seen it, be sure to check it out. It has some truly excellent photos of the TU-160. It's a fine looking warplane, though of course it's not on our side. But in terms of performance, its even better than our B1B.

SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:53:33pm

re: #75 Gus 802

As in how can he be against University of Regina scholarships for the children of fallen soldiers of the Afghanistan War claiming that it would glorify war. Juxtaposing this with the military history of Marxism, Mao, Stalin, Guervara, Castro, and indeed Hugo Chavez who himself was in the Venezuelan army from 1975–1992 and this includes intentions of a military coup. Adding to this we also have the strong militarism of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela. As I already pointed out, Webber holds up Chavez in high esteem.

Gus, how can you fail to understand the distinction between indigenous people engaged in a struggle for liberation (yay!) and the brutal drones of the imperialist armies of conquest (well, ICK)?

/////

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:54:45pm

re: #74 Varek Raith

Pfft, only an amateur lets their own runesword turn on them...
:P

I have no time to link, but just google

Hawkwind: Chronicles of the Black Sword
Blue Oyster Cult: Black Blade

When Michael Moorcock has a hand in your album, the results are usually rad :D

Varek Raith Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:55:02pm

Sigh, my internet connection is terrible... Constant drops that last for hours. Why is it when they "work" on the lines they frak everything up??!!?!?!
:/

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:55:12pm

re: #76 beekiller

lol That's what she calls her fans.

I know!

And you're WEIRD

^_^

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:55:58pm

re: #77 Dark_Falcon

I posted that story earlier today, but thanks for reposting it. If anyone here hasn't seen it, be sure to check it out. It has some truly excellent photos of the TU-160. It's a fine looking warplane, though of course it's not on our side. But in terms of performance, its even better than our B1B.

Your hardware thing is military stuff, mine is cars. I can dig. :D

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:56:24pm

OFF TO KARAOKE

Gus Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:56:34pm

re: #78 SanFranciscoZionist

Gus, how can you fail to understand the distinction between indigenous people engaged in a struggle for liberation (yay!) and the brutal drones of the imperialist armies of conquest (well, ICK)?

///

Yeah. Like those peace loving anti-military members of Shining Path.

Mark Pennington Thu, Mar 25, 2010 10:57:11pm

re: #59 LudwigVanQuixote

A true fan! Join the ranks of the few the proud the straight male Tori fans!

I just caught this comment! We are indeed a rare breed.

Varek Raith Thu, Mar 25, 2010 11:01:55pm

Meh, I'm gonna call it a night, due to a pathetically slow internet connection.

Later.

Dark_Falcon Thu, Mar 25, 2010 11:01:59pm

I'm going to go to bed. Sleep well, all.

Lidane Thu, Mar 25, 2010 11:08:43pm

re: #33 Bubblehead II

I have one Tori Amos CD (Under The Pink). Never could get into her, Enya on the other hand.

Tori's first five albums are her best, IMO. She's been a bit more hit and miss lately, but you really can't go wrong with Little Earthquakes, Under the Pink, Boys for Pele, From the Choirgirl Hotel, and To Venus and Back.

Scarlet's Walk is also good too. She wrote the bulk of it when she was touring in the aftermath of 9/11, and it's a sort of lyrical cross-country road trip.

Mark Pennington Thu, Mar 25, 2010 11:09:32pm

re: #81 WindUpBird

I know!

And you're WEIRD

^_^

And you're FUNNY. You, darthstar, (Steve when he's not pissed) and Cato make me laugh daily.

Gus Thu, Mar 25, 2010 11:09:52pm

Dennis Hopper's cancer is terminal: lawyer
(AFP) – 6 hours ago

LOS ANGELES — Famed US actor Dennis Hopper, who starred in such cinematic classics as "Easy Rider" and "Apocalypse Now," is dying of cancer, his lawyer said in court documents out Thursday.

Attorney Joseph Mannis said that Hopper was too weak to be questioned by his wife's attorney in a bitter ongoing divorce settlement, according to court documents filed in Los Angeles Superior Court on Wednesday and obtained by KTLA television Thursday.

However Hopper, 73, will still attend a ceremony in his honor for a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

The court filing said his physician David Agus found that Hopper weighs less than 100 pounds (45 kg) as he battles prostate cancer.

Lidane Thu, Mar 25, 2010 11:11:26pm

re: #54 beekiller

ah, the Eric breakup. She laid his memory at the foot of Pele.

Actually, I think a fair bit of that album is about Trent Reznor as well, especially this song:

Youtube Video

Bubblehead II Thu, Mar 25, 2010 11:12:36pm

re: #70 Bubblehead II

Just so you know, It is going to take a bit to review those links. Slow computer and it likes to take its time. But so far I like what I am hearing.

Perhaps I was hasty in my decision and have missed out.

/Like that has never happened before

Done. I liked some of what I heard. But overall, I am not impressed. Enya has more energy.

No accounting for taste I guess

Mark Pennington Thu, Mar 25, 2010 11:13:51pm

re: #88 Lidane

Tori's first five albums are her best, IMO. She's been a bit more hit and miss lately, but you really can't go wrong with Little Earthquakes, Under the Pink, Boys for Pele, From the Choirgirl Hotel, and To Venus and Back.

Scarlet's Walk is also good too. She wrote the bulk of it when she was touring in the aftermath of 9/11, and it's a sort of lyrical cross-country road trip.

This is a really good sight for her music downloads. Here In My Head

Gus Thu, Mar 25, 2010 11:15:27pm

Dennis Hopper reads a poem on The Johnny Cash Show

Youtube Video

"If" by Rudyard Kipling

Mark Pennington Thu, Mar 25, 2010 11:15:37pm

re: #91 Lidane

Actually, I think a fair bit of that album is about Trent Reznor as well, especially this song:

[Video]

You know your stuff too. :D The Hurt reference?

Lidane Thu, Mar 25, 2010 11:18:27pm

re: #95 beekiller

You know your stuff too. :D The Hurt reference?

Not just that. The whole bit about a "belle" dragging her foot gives it away too, since it's a direct lyrical reference to the "belle from New Orleans" in Blood Roses. Trent lives in NOLA, or at least would have lived there at the time that she wrote the album.

SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Mar 25, 2010 11:18:28pm

Goodnight, everyone.

Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 25, 2010 11:23:08pm

re: #90 Gus 802

Dennis Hopper's cancer is terminal: lawyer
(AFP) – 6 hours ago

The best story evah about Hopper is one I heard years ago. I don't know if it's true or not.

Someone told him that if you made a circle of dynamite charges properly set to all go off at the same time and sat in the exact center, the forces would cancel each other out and you would emerge unscathed.

So he tried it, and found out it was true.

No greedy-ass ex-wife is going to beat him as long as he's still breathing.

stayfrosty Thu, Mar 25, 2010 11:25:09pm

MSNBC's Ed Schultz - Time For 'Socialism' In Talk Radio:

Youtube Video

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Mark Pennington Thu, Mar 25, 2010 11:25:40pm

re: #98 Cato the Elder

The best story evah about Hopper is one I heard years ago. I don't know if it's true or not.

Someone told him that if you made a circle of dynamite charges properly set to all go off at the same time and sat in the exact center, the forces would cancel each other out and you would emerge unscathed.

So he tried it, and found out it was true.

No greedy-ass ex-wife is going to beat him as long as he's still breathing.

I bet its a true story. The man is a badass,

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Lidane Thu, Mar 25, 2010 11:27:12pm

Two other "girl and a piano" artists that shouldn't be missed--

A Fine Frenzy:

Youtube Video

Sara Bareilles:

Youtube Video

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Mark Pennington Thu, Mar 25, 2010 11:27:24pm

I'm going to say goodnight too. I'm getting loopy and that's never good.

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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Mar 25, 2010 11:30:43pm

Youtube Video

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Gus Thu, Mar 25, 2010 11:31:11pm

re: #98 Cato the Elder

The best story evah about Hopper is one I heard years ago. I don't know if it's true or not.

Someone told him that if you made a circle of dynamite charges properly set to all go off at the same time and sat in the exact center, the forces would cancel each other out and you would emerge unscathed.

So he tried it, and found out it was true.

No greedy-ass ex-wife is going to beat him as long as he's still breathing.

Don't think I would ever try to find out if that circle of dynamite trick would work.

It's too bad about Hopper and the background story regarding his wife and the divorce. I couldn't imagine having to be on my death bed having to deal that.

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Cato the Elder Thu, Mar 25, 2010 11:31:19pm

re: #94 Gus 802

Dennis Hopper reads a poem on The Johnny Cash Show

[Video]"If" by Rudyard Kipling

I hate that poem as much as I hate Glenn Beck, because it's been overquoted more than any other except maybe Yeats's "The Second Coming", mostly by imbeciles whose hands Kipling and Yeats would scorn to shake.

Yet I liked that rendition.

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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Mar 25, 2010 11:32:33pm

re: #63 WindUpBird

I saw Tori in Scotland in 1995 live, fantastic show!

I'm not a REAL Tori fan, but I'm a giant fan of the song "Past the Mission"

She is the best. My favorite.
re: #102 beekiller

I'm going to say goodnight too. I'm getting loopy and that's never good.

Sleep well fellow Toriphile!

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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Mar 25, 2010 11:32:53pm

re: #96 Lidane

Not just that. The whole bit about a "belle" dragging her foot gives it away too, since it's a direct lyrical reference to the "belle from New Orleans" in Blood Roses. Trent lives in NOLA, or at least would have lived there at the time that she wrote the album.

And as always, you rock!

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Gus Thu, Mar 25, 2010 11:32:58pm

re: #105 Cato the Elder

I hate that poem as much as I hate Glenn Beck, because it's been overquoted more than any other except maybe Yeats's "The Second Coming", mostly by imbeciles whose hands Kipling and Yeats would scorn to shake.

Yet I liked that rendition.

Sorry. I've only heard it a few times. Sad to watch in the present context.

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bwrader Thu, Mar 25, 2010 11:35:18pm

re: #49 Obdicut

Oops! Didn't see the comment load.

What I actually typed was:
the little heart sign (greater than symbol + 3) regina spektor.

Looks like I found a bug, uh oh!

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bwrader Thu, Mar 25, 2010 11:36:43pm

And by greater than symbol, I mean less than symbol. Side note: I think its past my bed time! :P

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Obdicut Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:15:46am

re: #98 Cato the Elder

I heard the same story, except that he didn't get the timing right, and was hurled through a ring of fire.

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I Am Kreniigh! Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:31:26am

On a tangent, am I the only one wondering why YouTube is herky-jerky even when you allow the whole thing to buffer up?

The whole fits-and-starts thing is particularly annoying for a video like this, which has its own rhythm of twitch. It's nearly unwatchable.

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Vambo Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:11:18am

re: #2 LudwigVanQuixote

I love love love Regina. She is the true heir apparent to Kate Bush and Tori Amos.

Kate >>> Tori >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regina (and Joanna, for that matter)

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Vambo Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:11:58am

haha, there was supposed to a thousand >'s between Tori and Regina, damn auto-correct.

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Vambo Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:15:55am

re: #44 LudwigVanQuixote

OK a Tori intro post.

please listen to her songs long enough for them to go contrapuntal.

Spark

[Video]

good shiz!

and Caught a Lite Sneeze!! that's my favorite. and Siren and Cornflake Girl!

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Elaine Fri, Mar 26, 2010 1:39:38pm

re: #3 darthstar

It's got a bit of that old Peter Gabriel "Sledgehammer" feel to it.

Peter Gabriel does a cover of Regina Spektor's song Apres Moi in his lates CD "Scratch my back."

Youtube Video

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