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1 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:17:57pm

There's no music window.

2 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:19:02pm

re: #1 Dark_Falcon

There's no music window.

mine is working...

3 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:20:05pm

Be well all... Gots to get holiday ready and all!

4 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:20:38pm

re: #3 LudwigVanQuixote

Be well all... Gots to get holiday ready and all!

Have a good one, Ludwig.

5 Kragar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:21:14pm

Man, 1 week to go till vacation, I need it

6 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:22:44pm

Found the song on YouTube. Listening now.

7 pingjockey  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:25:35pm

Later folks. Have a fine weekend.

8 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:29:05pm

OK nice tune...

/now what shall we argue about?

9 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:29:35pm

A very pleasant song, a good fit for a sunny afternoon.

10 Kragar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:30:52pm

re: #8 brookly red

OK nice tune...

/now what shall we argue about?

Stuffing > potatoes

11 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:32:20pm

re: #10 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Stuffing > potatoes

stuffed potatoes...

I am a New Yorker, I want it all & I want it delivered...

12 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:33:06pm

re: #8 brookly red

OK nice tune...

/now what shall we argue about?

Charlie Crist and Mark Rubio cut to the chase:

Florida GOP Senate Candidates to Face Off on 'Fox News Sunday'

Actually a good idea for them to debate on Fox, since they'll be reaching their primary voters.

13 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:34:43pm

re: #12 Dark_Falcon

Charlie Crist and Mark Rubio cut to the chase:

Florida GOP Senate Candidates to Face Off on 'Fox News Sunday'

Actually a good idea for them to debate on Fox, since they'll be reaching their primary voters.

yes but for one to get the thumbs up from Fox could be the end of the other...

14 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:36:03pm

On his show today, Glenn Beck is wearing a red shirt with white stripes. Standing in front of his blackboards, he really does like like an over grown schoolboy.

15 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:37:20pm

Did you know that there is a history of the jazz-rock genre? Here's an excerpt from a review of it I wrote for Amazon:

By the mid-Sixties, jazz seemed to have ground to a halt. The surviving oldtimers were just re-working their catalogs. "Progressive" trends had dead-ended into the indeterminacy of free jazz, the popularity of which was not boosted by its elements of black militancy. In the meantime, rock and roll and Motown were happening, forging new musical paths upwards from their blues roots and winning broad audiences. Rock in particular at this time was gaining respect, as The Beatles and Bob Dylan brought thitherto unknown sophistication to rock songwriting, and artists like Cream and Jimi Hendrix would soon state their cases for instrumental virtuosity in rock. Some young jazz musicians sought for ways to meld the fluidity of jazz with the power and--let's face it--fun of rock. This book is their story, and of the artists who followed in their trail.

16 Lidane  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:39:33pm
17 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:40:30pm

re: #16 Lidane

Sarah Palin: The Republican Party isn't the party of no -- "We're the party of Hell no!"

Oh joy. Why is she still drawing crowds?

why ask why? she is...

19 reine.de.tout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:42:46pm

re: #14 Dark_Falcon

On his show today, Glenn Beck is wearing a red shirt with white stripes. Standing in front of his blackboards, he really does like like an over grown schoolboy.

Yeah, I was just listening to the TV.
What the heck is he ranting and raving about?
I could make no sense out of it whatsoever

20 Silvergirl  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:45:06pm

re: #14 Dark_Falcon

On his show today, Glenn Beck is wearing a red shirt with white stripes. Standing in front of his blackboards, he really does like like an over grown schoolboy.

Vertical or horizontal stripes? Horizontal stripes are not slimming, and you know the camera adds pounds.

It was funny when he made fun of himself and said he had no muscles and was like pudding.

21 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:45:14pm

It seems clear that I need to find a new job for the fall. We've got our numbers of incoming freshman, and I am screwed.

22 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:45:32pm

re: #19 reine.de.tout

Yeah, I was just listening to the TV.
What the heck is he ranting and raving about?
I could make no sense out of it whatsoever

He seldom makes any kind of sense. I wish a nun like those who taught Bill O'Reilly were on hand today to paddle Beck for his nonsensical behavior.

23 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:45:48pm

re: #21 SanFranciscoZionist

Agh :(

24 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:45:55pm

re: #20 Silvergirl

Vertical or horizontal stripes? Horizontal stripes are not slimming, and you know the camera adds pounds.

It was funny when he made fun of himself and said he had no muscles and was like pudding.

Horizontal stripes.

25 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:46:13pm

re: #21 SanFranciscoZionist

Sorry to hear that.
{{SFZ}}

26 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:46:36pm

re: #21 SanFranciscoZionist

It seems clear that I need to find a new job for the fall. We've got our numbers of incoming freshman, and I am screwed.

Yikes. Sorry to hear that. Any tricks you can pull, or is it a seniority situation.

27 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:47:07pm

re: #25 Floral Giraffe

Sorry to hear that.
{{SFZ}}

I stuck my head in the VP's office after the morning meeting where the numbers were announced and asked "On a scale of one to ten, how doomed am I?"

She said "Pretty doomed."

28 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:47:34pm

Oooh, speaking of stripes, it seems that O'Keefe's have been reduced to a misdemeanor...

29 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:47:44pm

re: #26 Dark_Falcon

Yikes. Sorry to hear that. Any tricks you can pull, or is it a seniority situation.

The only thing that will save me is if one of the full-time English teachers resigns. Doesn't seem likely right now.

30 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:48:36pm

re: #21 SanFranciscoZionist

ouch.

31 Obdicut  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:49:21pm

re: #21 SanFranciscoZionist

You might look at Leapfrog.

[Link: www.leapfrog.com...]

And Kaplan is hiring tons of tutors in the area, too:

[Link: sjobs.brassring.com...]

32 Silvergirl  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:49:23pm

Time to think about the closed door, open window thing.
or is that reversed? In any case--new opportunity. New life. No more study hall. :-)

33 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:49:37pm

re: #29 SanFranciscoZionist

The only thing that will save me is if one of the full-time English teachers resigns. Doesn't seem likely right now.

Explain? Are you temp, substitute?

34 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:49:46pm

I have job hunted for five out of the last six summers, including last summer when I ended up being hired back at the old place.

It's losing its charm.

35 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:49:47pm

re: #29 SanFranciscoZionist

The only thing that will save me is if one of the full-time English teachers resigns. Doesn't seem likely right now.

/I heard somewhere dat English teachers are accident prone...

36 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:50:06pm

re: #27 SanFranciscoZionist

I stuck my head in the VP's office after the morning meeting where the numbers were announced and asked "On a scale of one to ten, how doomed am I?"

She said "Pretty doomed."

Any DoDDS (Defense Dept) schools in your area? They have some wild advantages for the right people.

37 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:50:57pm

re: #35 brookly red

/I heard somewhere dat English teachers are accident prone...

I was thinking of you, Brooklyn.

38 Silvergirl  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:51:13pm

re: #34 SanFranciscoZionist

I have job hunted for five out of the last six summers, including last summer when I ended up being hired back at the old place.

It's losing its charm.

Sorry. My new opportunity comment is ill timed.

39 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:51:27pm

Sorry to bring something up from the last thread, and I really do need to run, but I do not want to be missunderstood.

re: #670 The Sanity Inspector

The trouble with the might-makes-right argument is, you've got no moral standing to object if the Arabs ever get it together, and make Israel "one with Nienveh and Tyre", and Outre-Mer.

You are absolutely correct. That is why I did not list right of conquest first. Our main argument for the land is that it really is our very own historical homeland.

My point in bringing right of conquest is to point out that most people live places that have no claim to their land nearly as strong as Israel does to it's own land.

My point is one of hypocrisy.

My point is that by any measure, Israel has more right to the land of Israel than the US does to Pennsylvania.

In fact even by the right of conquest standard alone, we have more right, sine it was the US that went and wiped out the Indians of Pa, where as it was the Arabs that attacked Israel.

40 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:51:56pm

re: #33 Walter L. Newton

Explain? Are you temp, substitute?

I teach one block of English (two while the regular teacher is on maternity leave), three study halls, am the locker room lady for two blocks, and teach the after-school grades-improvement class for those who slip below par.

If they need a partridge in a pear tree, I do that too.

Basically, with the incoming freshmen being as low as they are, it's almost certain the administration will not be able to cobble together another year of full-time employment for me.

41 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:53:05pm

re: #35 brookly red

/I heard somewhere dat English teachers are accident prone...

I am not going to kill Sister Mary Catherine over a high school English job.

Mr. Wilson, on the other hand...

42 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:53:28pm

re: #36 Decatur Deb

Any DoDDS (Defense Dept) schools in your area? They have some wild advantages for the right people.

No idea. Will check it out.

43 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:53:55pm

re: #41 SanFranciscoZionist

I am not going to kill Sister Mary Catherine over a high school English job.

Mr. Wilson, on the other hand...

And little chance of getting one pregnant.

44 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:53:56pm

re: #40 SanFranciscoZionist

I teach one block of English (two while the regular teacher is on maternity leave), three study halls, am the locker room lady for two blocks, and teach the after-school grades-improvement class for those who slip below par.

If they need a partridge in a pear tree, I do that too.

Basically, with the incoming freshmen being as low as they are, it's almost certain the administration will not be able to cobble together another year of full-time employment for me.

Thanks. Understand now, I do. You want to help English for me?

45 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:54:21pm

re: #40 SanFranciscoZionist

I teach one block of English (two while the regular teacher is on maternity leave), three study halls, am the locker room lady for two blocks, and teach the after-school grades-improvement class for those who slip below par.

If they need a partridge in a pear tree, I do that too.

Basically, with the incoming freshmen being as low as they are, it's almost certain the administration will not be able to cobble together another year of full-time employment for me.

Is the economy the reason student numbers are down?

46 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:54:24pm

re: #41 SanFranciscoZionist

I am not going to kill Sister Mary Catherine over a high school English job.

Mr. Wilson, on the other hand...

put nothing in writing please...

47 Digital Display  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:55:54pm

re: #29 SanFranciscoZionist

The only thing that will save me is if one of the full-time English teachers resigns. Doesn't seem likely right now.

I am deeply sorry..I'm put you on the Lizard prayer list for a new door to open for you and your husband...
I know people..And I know even if there is pain..You are going to come out of this challenge victorious and happier than you are today..
You can't hurt a Spirit like you...You will rise above this day to victory
Kind Regards and God bless you

48 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:56:04pm

re: #45 Dark_Falcon

Is the economy the reason student numbers are down?

Yeah, that's the big reason. A lot of our parents, dad has a lucrative blue-collar job that pays for the mortgage and groceries and bills, and mom works an office job that pays for the kids to go to Catholic school.

If mom gets laid off, or if dad's business goes down, and they need mom's income for living expenses...

49 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:56:43pm

Anyway, I'm heading home for the weekend.

See you all in a few hours.

50 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:56:55pm

Police: Drunk Pa. Man Tried To Revive Dead Opossum

PUNXSUTAWNEY, Pa. (AP) - Police say they charged a Pennsylvania man with public drunkenness after he was seen trying to resuscitate a long-dead opossum along a highway.

State police Trooper Jamie Levier says several witnesses saw 55-year-old Donald Wolfe, of Brookville, near the animal Thursday along Route 36 in Oliver Township, about 65 miles northeast of Pittsburgh.

The trooper says one person saw Wolfe kneeling before the animal and gesturing as though he were conducting a seance. He says another saw Wolfe attempting to give mouth-to-mouth resuscitation.

Levier says the animal already had been dead a while.

Is there ANYTHING a 55 year old man won't do for a date with a PETA babe?

Btw, opossums have migrated into the Lubbock area during the last few years. I nearly stepped on one of the rat-tailed varmints while I was taking the trash out a while back. It was literally playing possum, sprawled out on the ground watching me with those beady little eyes. Whoever figured out you could eat these critters must have been awfully damn hungry.

51 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:57:11pm

re: #48 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah, that's the big reason. A lot of our parents, dad has a lucrative blue-collar job that pays for the mortgage and groceries and bills, and mom works an office job that pays for the kids to go to Catholic school.

If mom gets laid off, or if dad's business goes down, and they need mom's income for living expenses...

Hopefully, things turn around for you.

52 darthstar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:58:35pm

re: #50 Shiplord Kirel

Maybe he thought it was Punxsutawny Phil. Or just playin' 'possum, and not really dead.

53 Silvergirl  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:58:36pm

re: #50 Shiplord Kirel

We needed him last night when our critter was stuck on that trap.

54 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:59:06pm

re: #21 SanFranciscoZionist

It seems clear that I need to find a new job for the fall. We've got our numbers of incoming freshman, and I am screwed.

Unemployment sucks.

55 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 2:59:28pm

re: #48 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah, that's the big reason. A lot of our parents, dad has a lucrative blue-collar job that pays for the mortgage and groceries and bills, and mom works an office job that pays for the kids to go to Catholic school.

If mom gets laid off, or if dad's business goes down, and they need mom's income for living expenses...

YOU WORK IN A CATHOLIC SCHOOL (makes sign of cross with fingers... bzzzzzzzzzz... back away)

56 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:00:10pm

re: #54 Alouette

Unemployment sucks.

well look on the bright side we are the fastest growing voting demographic...

57 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:00:11pm
58 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:00:25pm

re: #49 SanFranciscoZionist

Anyway, I'm heading home for the weekend.

See you all in a few hours.

Website--Most overseas, but it changes.

[Link: jobsearch.usajobs.opm.gov...]

59 darthstar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:00:29pm

re: #55 Walter L. Newton

YOU WORK IN A CATHOLIC SCHOOL (makes sign of cross with fingers... bzzz... back away)

hey, I'm just glad she doesn't work at a public high school in Richmond.

60 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:00:56pm

re: #56 brookly red

well look on the bright side we are the fastest growing voting demographic...

Well, I can be a swing voter, since I start that part time cashier job next week.

61 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:01:21pm

re: #57 Shiplord Kirel

Really ugly cat found

Where's Wrenchwench? She collects those posters!

62 darthstar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:01:28pm

re: #60 Walter L. Newton

Well, I can be a swing voter, since I start that part time cashier job next week.

Swing voter or voting swinger?

63 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:01:34pm

re: #60 Walter L. Newton

Well, I can be a swing voter, since I start that part time cashier job next week.

Glad you got it.

I've got to head out. BBL

64 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:01:54pm

re: #60 Walter L. Newton

Well, I can be a swing voter, since I start that part time cashier job next week.

cool, now just make sure all the beans stay in the right pot...

65 Digital Display  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:02:36pm

re: #59 darthstar

hey, I'm just glad she doesn't work at a public high school in Richmond.

Richmond is a tough town...I give it 9 out of 10 stars for the worst place you would ever want to live in Cali...

66 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:02:40pm

re: #64 brookly red

cool, now just make sure all the beans stay in the right pot...

?

67 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:03:28pm

re: #66 Walter L. Newton

?

cash-eir... got it?

68 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:03:31pm

For Pingjockey, the Science Fiction Sketch (3 parts)

69 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:04:05pm

re: #65 HoosierHoops

Richmond is a tough town...I give it 9 out of 10 stars for the worst place you would ever want to live in Cali...

I thought Richmond is in Virginia...

70 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:05:58pm

re: #69 Alouette

I thought Richmond is in Virginia...

/Ooooh those acorn people are tricky...

71 Digital Display  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:08:17pm

re: #69 Alouette

I thought Richmond is in Virginia...

I'm Sorry..Richmond, Ca. A bad ass place in the Bay Area...
It's not play school there..Rough Town

72 darthstar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:08:46pm

Boehner jumping the shark, "...And we will fight to keep the President from Importing terrorists into our communities and giving them the same rights as American Citizens." Saw this posted elsewhere as a quote from his latest campaign mailer.

73 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:09:10pm

re: #67 brookly red

cash-eir... got it?

No?

74 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:09:45pm

re: #73 Walter L. Newton

No?

good luck on the new gig.

75 Digital Display  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:10:18pm

re: #74 brookly red

good luck on the new gig.

Walter got a new gig? Cool!

76 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:17:44pm

Yooper over at the "Defenseman" blog is not only still whinging away on behalf of Irish Rose and blaming the Evil Trio (me, Ice, and Jimmah) for leading Charles down the garden path, he's actually shown the stones to take up the cudgels with me.

Latest exchange:

BG Says:

Cato, you’ve been just as bad a Buzzsawmonkey at LGF, so save me the verbage [sic]. What I’ve noticed is that you seem to have fallen in with the Ice and Jimmah Show, and yes, contrary to what some say, they have bullied other commenters. I tried to inject some civility in the flamefests, and got told by Iceweasel that she wants to “give as good as she gets”. Yeah, that’s a nice way to live life, an eye for an eye.

Cato the Elder Says:

As opposed to your nice way of life, posting an anonymous blog to stalk stalkers and then letting someone else be falsely outed in your stead, his name and address published, himself reviled, while you cravenly ducked your head.

I just found out about all that yesterday, because I was on the road while it was going on. You are in no position to lecture anyone on anything to do with morals, coward.

I’d challenge you to a duel, but I know in advance what the outcome would be.

BG Says:

Hey, dipshit, I didn’t make the choice to start outing names. That was Charles and Rodan, not me, not anyone else involved with this website, but never mind facts. I made this blog to show them for the fools they were and why they got banned (which was for very good reason). When Hoops got outed by them, we tried to direct them away from Hoops. It failed in its attempt. Of course, as usual, Cato, never mind the facts, just listen to what Madame Iceweasel has to say on the subject.

Cato the Elder Says:

You “tried to direct them away from Hoops”. Right. A real man would have stood up and said “it’s me, fools, leave Hoops alone”. But they had to figure that out for themselves.

I don’t need Iceweasel or anyone else to help me recognize cowards when I see them.

He also persists in his belief that "Deuce" is spelled "Duece".

qui stultis videri eruditi volunt, stulti eruditis videntur

I do rather enjoy being called a "dipshit" by people like this. It brings back the good old days when Mandy and I were on speaking terms and she would use her familiar terms of endearment with me.

77 Bagua  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:20:04pm

re: #34 SanFranciscoZionist

I have job hunted for five out of the last six summers, including last summer when I ended up being hired back at the old place.

It's losing its charm.

Any academy would be privileged to have you on staff, at some point an administrator will be sensible enough to realise this.

78 freetoken  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:20:18pm

re: #39 LudwigVanQuixote


In fact even by the right of conquest standard alone, we have more right, sine it was the US that went and wiped out the Indians of Pa, where as it was the Arabs that attacked Israel.

Hmmm... I wonder, if some ghost hunters went to the western Levant, if they could dig up some ancient Canaan ghosts for a chat...

79 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:25:19pm

re: #78 freetoken

Hmmm... I wonder, if some ghost hunters went to the western Levant, if they could dig up some ancient Canaan ghosts for a chat...

Huh... Canaans are not Israelites?

80 freetoken  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:27:52pm

re: #79 Walter L. Newton

I was drawing a parallel. Ludwig brings up the history of the US, and how, say in the 13 colonies, the English colonies took land from the residing natives, in conflict if needed. He seems to ignore that the ancient Israelites likewise fought over land.

82 Mich-again  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:28:24pm

That was a nice song. I'm not quite sure what to think of the label "jazz-rock".

83 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:29:45pm

re: #80 freetoken

I was drawing a parallel. Ludwig brings up the history of the US, and how, say in the 13 colonies, the English colonies took land from the residing natives, in conflict if needed. He seems to ignore that the ancient Israelites likewise fought over land.

everybody fought for land at one point or another.

84 Digital Display  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:31:04pm

re: #76 Cato the Elder

It's not that he let me take the fall for being him and watching me getting outed on their Blog...
He wrote a few emails laughing about it to other Lizards..
I don't care so much about being outed..Who gives a shit...
It was him laughing about me taking the fall for his blog that hurt...It was funny I took the incoming missiles and bombs and he laughed about it.
What a man...That's ok..I'll take being called every name in the book..A charity Pimp and every ugly thing that the stalkers attacked me with thinking I was running a blog site..
Don't you ever come back here Yooper you bitch..Cause we will have words you frickking coward..you won't like it

85 freetoken  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:31:33pm

re: #83 brookly red

Yes, agree. Yet Ludwig seems to think that the ancient Israelites didn't do likewise, and therefore they have a more legitimate claim to the land that they declare their own.

86 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:33:11pm

Gingrich Says Democrats ‘Have To Take Some Moral Responsibility’ For Far-Right Death Threats

Ithink the Democratic leadership has to take some moral responsibility for having behaved with such arrogance, in such a hostile way, that the American people are deeply upset. So let’s be honest with this. This is a game that they’re playing. People should not engage in personal threats. I’m happy to condemn any effort to engage in personal threats. But I think the Democratic leadership has to take some real responsibility for having run a machine that used corrupt tactics, that bought votes, that bullied people, and as a result has enraged much of the American people. And I think it’d be nice for President Obama, Speaker Pelosi, and Majority Leader Reid to take some responsibility over what their actions have done to this country.

87 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:33:46pm

re: #85 freetoken

Yes, agree. Yet Ludwig seems to think that the ancient Israelites didn't do likewise, and therefore they have a more legitimate claim to the land that they declare their own.

well every species competes for it's nitch...

88 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:34:57pm
89 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:35:42pm

re: #86 Killgore Trout

Gingrich Says Democrats ‘Have To Take Some Moral Responsibility’ For Far-Right Death Threats

When I need an ethics lesson, I always turn to Newt.

90 The Left  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:37:46pm

re: #76 Cato the Elder

Yooper over at the "Defenseman" blog is not only still whinging away on behalf of Irish Rose and blaming the Evil Trio (me, Ice, and Jimmah) for leading Charles down the garden path, he's actually shown the stones to take up the cudgels with me.

Latest exchange:

He also persists in his belief that "Deuce" is spelled "Duece".

qui stultis videri eruditi volunt, stulti eruditis videntur

I do rather enjoy being called a "dipshit" by people like this. It brings back the good old days when Mandy and I were on speaking terms and she would use her familiar terms of endearment with me.

What a douche. He chastised me for my 'incivility' towards dear old misogynistic old freak Buzzsaw, who called me a commie scumbag, a pig's arsehole and more (much worse). I told him it was rather odd that he was accusing *me* of incivility and not Dear Mullah Buzzsaw, and that I would give as good as I get.

Of course, Yooper lies about that as well, just as he's lying about his freakshow of a blog, created and maintained by him.

I wonder why Yooper doesn't post his complaints about Charles, you, me, and Jimmah over here? /

91 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:37:50pm

Comedy gold....
Fox's Doocy learns the hazards of not vetting guests (video)


He challenged this "mainstream media biased coverage" by hosting "former 'Saturday Night Live' star" and Tea Partier Victoria Jackson.

Unfortunately, Doocy appeared to be unaware of what Jackson has been up to since she left SNL in 1992 -- you know, how she's said that Obama "bears traits that resemble the anti-Christ" and shares "so many similar qualities" with Adolf Hitler (i.e.: "Obama's current attitude toward Israel is in question. Hitler did not support Jews.").

Not surprisingly, the interview went south in record time:

92 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:37:55pm

re: #88 Killgore Trout

Palin: Anti-HCR Violence Stories Are ‘Ginned Up’
...So it goes.

gee, what is the body count up to now?

93 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:40:11pm

re: #92 brookly red

Your apathy about violent threats against our elected officials is touching.
/

94 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:41:15pm

re: #93 Killgore Trout

Your apathy about violent threats against our elected officials is touching.
/

you said/implied there was violence... so who has been hurt?

95 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:41:46pm

re: #94 brookly red

you said/implied there was violence... so who has been hurt?

He said threats.

96 ~Fianna  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:41:53pm

re: #94 brookly red

you said/implied there was violence... so who has been hurt?

The Republic?

97 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:42:51pm

re: #95 Walter L. Newton

He said threats.

the link said anti hrc violence...

98 ~Fianna  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:43:28pm

re: #97 brookly red

the link said anti hrc violence...

Bricks being thrown through windows sure sounds violent to me.

99 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:44:25pm

re: #90 iceweasel

What a douche. He chastised me for my 'incivility' towards dear old misogynistic old freak Buzzsaw, who called me a commie scumbag, a pig's arsehole and more (much worse). I told him it was rather odd that he was accusing *me* of incivility and not Dear Mullah Buzzsaw, and that I would give as good as I get.

Of course, Yooper lies about that as well, just as he's lying about his freakshow of a blog, created and maintained by him.

I wonder why Yooper doesn't post his complaints about Charles, you, me, and Jimmah over here? /

I do believe it's the "Sir Robin factor"... ;^)

100 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:45:14pm

re: #98 ~Fianna

Bricks being thrown through windows sure sounds violent to me.

we are a nation of 300 million + ...

101 allegro  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:46:36pm

re: #100 brookly red

we are a nation of 300 million + ...

WTF?

102 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:46:56pm

re: #98 ~Fianna

Bricks being thrown through windows sure sounds violent to me.

Our Alabama idiot specifically posted that he wanted to instill physical fear in ten or so legislators. This is a cache link, I don't want to take LGF there:

[Link: 74.125.93.132...]

103 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:47:03pm

re: #55 Walter L. Newton

YOU WORK IN A CATHOLIC SCHOOL (makes sign of cross with fingers... bzzz... back away)

You don't like Catholic schools? I don't ever want to work public again.

104 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:47:13pm

re: #101 allegro

WTF?

the sky is not falling,

105 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:47:52pm

re: #59 darthstar

hey, I'm just glad she doesn't work at a public high school in Richmond.

No, I work at the Catholic school that's literally NEXT DOOR TO the public high school in Richmond.

Our homecoming dance was the same night as theirs. I worked it.

106 allegro  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:48:33pm

re: #104 brookly red

the sky is not falling,

So calling for violence and actually following through is not a problem in your book? Ohhhhkaaaay

107 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:48:34pm

re: #87 brookly red

well every species competes for it's nitch...

What is a "nitch"? Something you put on an itch?

108 keloyd  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:50:33pm

I'm all for defrenchification. Nitch looks like an improvement.

109 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:51:11pm

re: #106 allegro

So calling for violence and actually following through is not a problem in your book? Ohhhkaaay

no, my point is where is the follow through... is see lot's of accusations but not one drop of blood. there is no violence, so hysteria is not a problem in your book?

110 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:51:30pm

re: #105 SanFranciscoZionist

No, I work at the Catholic school that's literally NEXT DOOR TO the public high school in Richmond.

Our homecoming dance was the same night as theirs. I worked it.

Then this idea isn't outlandish: How does your area teach kids in stir? My daughter says she teaches the only kids in the state that definitely have no guns or (good) knives.

111 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:51:50pm

re: #106 allegro

So calling for violence and actually following through is not a problem in your book? Ohhhkaaay

It's wingnut logic. They see nothing wrong right wing terrorism. Traffic accidents and socialist plots kill more people everyday. They are just doing it because they "uppity" President is so arrogant.

112 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:51:54pm

re: #92 brookly red

gee, what is the body count up to now?

Well, aside from those killed in the tragic gun attack on Congressman Cantor's office...

113 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:51:55pm

re: #90 iceweasel

What a douche.

In Yooper's case, I believe it's spelled "deuche". Or possibly "dueche".

114 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:52:01pm

re: #107 Cato the Elder

What is a "nitch"? Something you put on an itch?

public school... we have done this before.

115 Digital Display  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:52:24pm

re: #90 iceweasel

Just wait till he has the Balls the post here...
It won't be pretty..
Charles I can shred without ever breaking the rules..I'm not worried about it..
Very few people on the face of this Earth have laughed about trying to ruin my life and out me on the Internet..
Yooper..Now that you know who I am and exposed me..Now what Bitch?
Don't you ever come here again While I'm around...
It won't be playschool

116 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:52:54pm

re: #102 Decatur Deb

Our Alabama idiot specifically posted that he wanted to instill physical fear in ten or so legislators. This is a cache link, I don't want to take LGF there:

[Link: 74.125.93.132...]

Who ever runs that blog, he/she is actually arguing that in order to stop a possible civil war, people need to break windows. Wonderful back-ass-ward thinking on their part.

Two years ago, on LGF, I was predicting that politics were going in this direction. I said that people are going to take to the streets.

Search the archives.

117 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:53:05pm

re: #112 SanFranciscoZionist

Sorry to hear of your job woes. Maybe there's a chance that the increase in student loans might help your situation. Good luck.

118 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:53:41pm

re: #110 Decatur Deb

Then this idea isn't outlandish: How does your area teach kids in stir? My daughter says she teaches the only kids in the state that definitely have no guns or (good) knives.

I don't know. Another thing I might look into.

119 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:53:44pm

re: #112 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, aside from those killed in the tragic gun attack on Congressman Cantor's office...

oh the humanity...

120 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:54:28pm

re: #118 SanFranciscoZionist

I was sort of kidding, I went to Catholic school for 12 years, doesn't it show?

121 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:55:23pm

re: #120 Walter L. Newton

I was sort of kidding, I went to Catholic school for 12 years, doesn't it show?

Maybe just a little, around the knuckles....

122 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:55:25pm

re: #116 Walter L. Newton

Who ever runs that blog, he/she is actually arguing that in order to stop a possible civil war, people need to break windows. Wonderful back-ass-ward thinking on their part.

Two years ago, on LGF, I was predicting that politics were going in this direction. I said that people are going to take to the streets.

Search the archives.

"Please give me your wallet so I don't have to resort to beating you, however reluctantly, with this tire iron."

123 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:55:35pm

re: #120 Walter L. Newton

I was sort of kidding, I went to Catholic school for 12 years, doesn't it show?

/do you still pee when you see a ruler?

124 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:55:38pm

re: #21 SanFranciscoZionist

It seems clear that I need to find a new job for the fall. We've got our numbers of incoming freshman, and I am screwed.

So very sorry to hear that. Any school in its right mind would do its utmost to keep you.

I can say that, having been personally schooled by you a few times. In the nicest possible way, of course, and to my profit and benefit.

125 The Left  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:55:49pm

re: #115 HoosierHoops

Just wait till he has the Balls the post here...
It won't be pretty..
Charles I can shred without ever breaking the rules..I'm not worried about it..
Very few people on the face of this Earth have laughed about trying to ruin my life and out me on the Internet..
Yooper..Now that you know who I am and exposed me..Now what Bitch?
Don't you ever come here again While I'm around...
It won't be playschool

He's a pig. He's pissed because I said recently that it was an incredibly shitty thing to do to you.
Now he's over there lying that I had anything to do with his idiotic blog-- which was started the day after I regged here and weeks before I became an active commenter.
There's only one reason for Yooper to be claiming that Jimmah and I had anything to do with that blog-- because he hopes that the stalkers will believe him, and do to us what they did to you.

Yooper's scum.

126 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:58:29pm

re: #122 Decatur Deb

"Please give me your wallet so I don't have to resort to beating you, however reluctantly, with this tire iron."

Vinny? dat you?

127 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:58:47pm

"Mockery makes us violent"

Glenn Beck - Obama Is Turning Us All Hateful


Republicans are turning into the RoP.

128 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:58:50pm

re: #124 Cato the Elder

So very sorry to hear that. Any school in its right mind would do its utmost to keep you.

I can say that, having been personally schooled by you a few times. In the nicest possible way, of course, and to my profit and benefit.

Thanks.

They did hire me back last year, at the last moment, and they've been awfully nice to me. And they'll help with the job hunt any way they can.

I just wish I wasn't doing this AGAIN. My first job hunt for a teaching job was hilarious and epic. (Comic opera material.) Now it's just stressful.

129 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:59:43pm

re: #127 Killgore Trout

"Mockery makes us violent"

Glenn Beck - Obama Is Turning Us All Hateful

[Video]

Republicans are turning into the RoP.

If only people would let us have out own way all the time, and not vote against what we want, we would be really nice!

130 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 3:59:57pm

re: #127 Killgore Trout

"Mockery makes us violent"

Glenn Beck - Obama Is Turning Us All Hateful


[Video]

Republicans are turning into the RoP.

yes of course... can you help me zip up this vest?

131 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:00:11pm

re: #127 Killgore Trout

Ugh, even I couldn't watch the whole thing.

132 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:00:39pm

re: #126 brookly red

Vinny? dat you?

Yeah, I been takin' night courses from a hot English teech.

133 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:01:21pm

re: #125 iceweasel

What a Yooper?

134 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:02:10pm

re: #132 Decatur Deb

Yeah, I been takin' night courses from a hot English teech.

I just learned how to hold my pinky out without jamming the shell ejector :)

135 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:02:14pm
136 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:03:58pm

Two soldiers from the IDF Golani unit were killed by terrorists on the Gaza border during a patrol. Please join me in praying for the families!

Yis'ga'dal v'yis'kadash sh'may ra'bbo, b'olmo dee'vro chir'usay v'yamlich malchu'say, b'chayaychon uv'yomay'chon uv'chayay d'chol bais Yisroel, ba'agolo u'viz'man koriv; v'imru Omein.

Y'hay shmay rabbo m'vorach l'olam ul'olmay olmayo.

Yisborach v'yishtabach v'yispoar v'yisromam v'yismasay, v'yishador v'yis'aleh v'yisalal, shmay d'kudsho, brich hu, l'aylo min kl birchoso v'sheeroso, tush'bechoso v'nechemoso, da,ameeran b'olmo; vimru Omein.

Y'hay shlomo rabbo min sh'mayo, v'chayim alaynu v'al kol Yisroel; v'imru Omein.

Oseh sholom bimromov, hu ya'aseh sholom olaynu, v'al kol yisroel; vimru Omein.

137 Digital Display  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:04:35pm

re: #133 Walter L. Newton

What a Yooper?

Get with the program and stop acting dumb..
This has been going on for fucking 6 months.
Jeez H. Christ Walter...
What?
F*ck

138 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:04:56pm

re: #136 Cato the Elder

Two soldiers from the IDF Golani unit were killed by terrorists on the Gaza border during a patrol. Please join me in praying for the families!

now that counts as violence...

139 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:05:07pm

re: #90 iceweasel


I wonder why Yooper doesn't post his complaints about Charles, you, me, and Jimmah over here? /

Maybe he's banned? Or if he's not already, knows he will be.

140 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:06:27pm

re: #136 Cato the Elder

Two soldiers from the IDF Golani unit were killed by terrorists on the Gaza border during a patrol. Please join me in praying for the families!

ברוך דיין האמת
The True Judge be blessed

141 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:07:10pm

So, I guess he really enjoyed meeting someone? Thats nice and all, but a hit song it does not make...

/:p

142 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:07:40pm

re: #137 HoosierHoops

Get with the program and stop acting dumb..
This has been going on for fucking 6 months.
Jeez H. Christ Walter...
What?
F*ck

Guess what. I don't spend every day of my life wondering or worrying who says what about who where ever. Except for looking over that other blog a few months ago because they posted my AGW/programming essay without my permission, I don't hang out on the stalker blogs.

So don't scream at me and curse at me. I asked a question, thanks for nothing HH.

143 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:08:29pm

re: #139 Alouette

Maybe he's banned? Or if he's not already, knows he will be.

He's not banned. I checked.

He makes in his pants anytime he even thinks about showing up here.

144 The Left  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:08:56pm

re: #139 Alouette

Maybe he's banned? Or if he's not already, knows he will be.

Not banned yet, so far as I know. Even Rose didn't get banned til she had to keep coming back and bidding us all farewell again, again, and again.
I doubt Yooper will get banned until he forces the situation.
Right now he likes keeping his account so he can log in and seekritly downding his 'enemies'.

145 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:09:08pm

re: #143 Cato the Elder

He's not banned. I checked.

He makes in his pants anytime he even thinks about showing up here.

/you checked that too?

146 Lidane  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:09:38pm

re: #86 Killgore Trout

Gingrich Says Democrats ‘Have To Take Some Moral Responsibility’ For Far-Right Death Threats

Because really, Newt is a model for moral responsibility. Taking his advice would be like asking Bill Clinton for tips on how to stay faithful to your spouse.

147 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:10:07pm

re: #143 Cato the Elder

He's not banned. I checked.

He makes in his pants anytime he even thinks about showing up here.

Damn Cato, don't you just say the nicest things about people...

148 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:10:10pm

re: #136 Cato the Elder

You have lovely Ashkenazes pronunciation, Cato. :)

149 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:11:29pm

re: #143 Cato the Elder

He's not banned. I checked.

He makes in his pants anytime he even thinks about showing up here.

So he's too much of a cowardly shmuck to flounce openly? A closet flounce.

NTTAWWT

150 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:11:47pm

re: #144 iceweasel

I think the link in his profile is an offense.

IR did not post the comment I left her last night. No surprise.

151 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:12:46pm

re: #142 Walter L. Newton

Guess what. I don't spend every day of my life wondering or worrying who says what about who where ever. Except for looking over that other blog a few months ago because they posted my AGW/programming essay without my permission, I don't hang out on the stalker blogs.

So don't scream at me and curse at me. I asked a question, thanks for nothing HH.

I believe you, because I know you.

Me, I didn't become aware of the whole shameful Yoops/Hoops mistaken identity thing (in which Yoops allowed Hoops to take the blame for his stalker-stalking blog, even after Hoops was publicly outed (name, address, the whole works) by Deuce, and then laughed about it) until yesterday.

But now you know. Honorary Yooper is a Prince of Butthurt, a craven weakling milquetoast milksop, and a liar.

NTTAWRT.

152 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:13:03pm

re: #135 Killgore Trout

Pic of the day

Dogs eat cereal? Huh.

153 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:14:00pm

re: #152 JasonA

Dogs eat cereal? Huh.

duh? where do you think corndogs come from :)

154 keloyd  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:14:50pm

We should be careful with the word 'terrorist'. An attack on military targets and personnel is not terrorism. It's important not to cheapen that word, but more importantly, I'm praying for their families too.

155 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:15:03pm

re: #151 Cato the Elder

I believe you, because I know you.

Me, I didn't become aware of the whole shameful Yoops/Hoops mistaken identity thing (in which Yoops allowed Hoops to take the blame for his stalker-stalking blog, even after Hoops was publicly outed (name, address, the whole works) by Deuce, and then laughed about it) until yesterday.

But now you know. Honorary Yooper is a Prince of Butthurt, a craven weakling milquetoast milksop, and a liar.

NTTAWRT.

Fine Cato, what ever, but there is no reason for HH to start treating me like he did above. I didn't even know who the hell any of you were talking about. I don't obsess over these fools.

156 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:15:12pm

re: #148 SanFranciscoZionist

You have lovely Ashkenazes pronunciation, Cato. :)

(((SFZ)))

157 Ericus58  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:15:50pm

re: #127 Killgore Trout

"Mockery makes us violent"

Glenn Beck - Obama Is Turning Us All Hateful


[Video]
Republicans are turning into the RoP.

Please....
Are they Stoning in public anyone?
Amputating limbs?
Beheading captives?
Forcing Female Genital Mutilations on girls?
Strapping bombs on themselves to murder innocents?
and so on...

Killgore, please try and restrain your comparisons. I'm a Republican, as is my wife. The Nutbags don't represent me or her.

158 Racer X  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:16:24pm

re: #151 Cato the Elder

I believe you, because I know you.

Me, I didn't become aware of the whole shameful Yoops/Hoops mistaken identity thing (in which Yoops allowed Hoops to take the blame for his stalker-stalking blog, even after Hoops was publicly outed (name, address, the whole works) by Deuce, and then laughed about it) until yesterday.

But now you know. Honorary Yooper is a Prince of Butthurt, a craven weakling milquetoast milksop, and a liar.

NTTAWRT.

I did not know that. Hoops is good people.

Yooper - that is fucked up man.

159 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:16:51pm

re: #157 Ericus58

Please...
Are they Stoning in public anyone?
Amputating limbs?
Beheading captives?
Forcing Female Genital Mutilations on girls?
Strapping bombs on themselves to murder innocents?
and so on...

Killgore, please try and restrain your comparisons. I'm a Republican, as is my wife. The Nutbags don't represent me or her.

thank you.

160 Racer X  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:17:35pm

re: #155 Walter L. Newton

I don't obsess over these fools.

You are a wise man.

161 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:17:43pm

re: #145 brookly red

/you checked that too?

I have powers the like of which you cannot conceive.

Unfortunately, sometimes using them involves really bad smells.

162 William of Orange  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:18:06pm

Reality check here....

I fear it won't be long before we say farewell to one of our great actors Dennis Hopper. Today he richly deserved his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. But the man here sitting side by side with his pal ands Easy Rider co-star Jack Nicholson is a shadow of his former self. Weighing only 45 kilos it's all plain to see to all that the cancer has done some major destructive work.

Image: dagdennis.jpg

I know it's not polite to talk about someone's coming demise when that person is still around, but if there's a slight possibility that he reads this, I would like to thank you for all those great films you made. I enjoyed your twisted characters in all your movies. You were legendary in Blue Velvet and Apocalypse Now. You played your roles like no other person could ever do. No one could play an evil bomber like you in Speed.

And never mind the mess you left behind that was you marriage. Even that episode was done in character.

Dennis, on behalf of everyone on this blog, thank you.

163 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:19:16pm

re: #161 Cato the Elder

I have powers the like of which you cannot conceive.

Unfortunately, sometimes using them involves really bad smells.

wait... your that squid like dude from Future Word, right?

164 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:20:30pm

re: #162 William of Orange

Still a lot of crazy in that photo.

165 Silvergirl  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:20:32pm

re: #135 Killgore Trout

Pic of the day

Sweet photo.

Here is one from your link
that makes LGF's wing fights look tame (right/left)
Tampa Bay Lightning right winger

166 Digital Display  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:21:31pm

re: #142 Walter L. Newton

Guess what. I don't spend every day of my life wondering or worrying who says what about who where ever. Except for looking over that other blog a few months ago because they posted my AGW/programming essay without my permission, I don't hang out on the stalker blogs.

So don't scream at me and curse at me. I asked a question, thanks for nothing HH.

I don't either Walter...Don't playschool with me.. For the last 6 months I've been trashed and you pretend..What? you act like you don't know what has happened here for the last 6 months to me...
You know ..I don't care...People know who I am ..So what?
Don't play dumb with me..Anybody can play dumb on blogs..Oh I was just asking a question.. Whatever..I call it stirring shit and you damn well know it.. 'I was just asking a question' shit gets old...
you never have to worry about me screaming at you Walter..I never have or never will..I like you..
Don't ever play dumb with me...Yooper hurt me..Don't expect mercies or tenderness from me playing dumb for the last 6 months...

167 The Left  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:22:13pm

re: #150 wrenchwench

I think the link in his profile is an offense.

IR did not post the comment I left her last night. No surprise.

Yeah, I'm not surprised either. Hadn't known about the link in his profile til now.

Frankly they don't deserve comments or attention, which is what they clearly crave. They're chatting away now with the people they claimed to hate, and encouraging stalking and bashing of LGF and Charles.

In an abstract sense though, it's pretty damn interesting that the two people who claimed to be all about 'supporting' LGF and 'defending' people from stalkers should turn out to be bullies and stalkers themselves.
Now we see what they were really all about all along: getting attention and losing their shit when Charles wouldn't ban their 'enemies'. 'Enemies', i may add, whose only crimes appear to be....getting more attention than they.

Sad that they used Charles and LGF for purposes of self-aggrandisement and weird emotional satisfaction.
People are weird.

168 KingKenrod  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:23:19pm

Charles has promoted The Bird and the Bee here before - they have a new release out, all Hall and Oates covers! Looks like they stuck to the hits:

Heard It On The Radio
I Can’t Go For That
Rich Girl
Sara Smile
Kiss On My List
Maneater
She’s Gone
Private Eyes
One on One

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

Here's a live sample:

169 Digital Display  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:23:35pm

re: #155 Walter L. Newton

Peace brother..Yooper shit got me fired up..
I'm sorry..I really am

170 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:24:20pm

re: #76 Cato the Elder

Sequel to the above Yooper/Cato exchange:

BG [Yooper] Says:

Then you missed the entire point of the blog as stated above. You prove that you are both blind and dense, Cato.

Cato the Elder Says [note: my comment is awaiting moderation, which means Yoops may or may not have the balls to continue being publicly thrashed by Cato; therefore posted here for posterity]

You might very well think that’s what has been proven here, BG, but of course I couldn’t possibly comment.

By the way, old chap, “Deuce” is not spelled “Duece”. Thought you might want to know.

171 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:24:41pm

re: #168 KingKenrod

Charles has promoted The Bird and the Bee here before - they have a new release out, all Hall and Oates covers! Looks like they stuck to the hits:

Heard It On The Radio
I Can’t Go For That
Rich Girl
Sara Smile
Kiss On My List
Maneater
She’s Gone
Private Eyes
One on One

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

Here's a live sample:


[Video]

I do believe the originals are back together again, or at least were...

172 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:26:29pm

re: #166 HoosierHoops

I don't either Walter...Don't playschool with me.. For the last 6 months I've been trashed and you pretend..What? you act like you don't know what has happened here for the last 6 months to me...
You know ..I don't care...People know who I am ..So what?
Don't play dumb with me..Anybody can play dumb on blogs..Oh I was just asking a question.. Whatever..I call it stirring shit and you damn well know it.. 'I was just asking a question' shit gets old...
you never have to worry about me screaming at you Walter..I never have or never will..I like you..
Don't ever play dumb with me...Yooper hurt me..Don't expect mercies or tenderness from me playing dumb for the last 6 months...

I'll say it one more time... I do not pay attention to the comments about stalker blogs and stalkers and all of that stuff. When that topic comes up on any of these thread, I scroll over, I don't care, if you search the archives you will even see where Charles has chided me because of my lack of interest in who is saying what about who.

No, I don't have a clue as to what went on between you and who ever.

Don't you dare call me a lier. You know me off line, and I can't believe you can say this about me.

173 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:27:14pm

re: #157 Ericus58

Please...
Are they Stoning in public anyone?
Amputating limbs?
Beheading captives?
Forcing Female Genital Mutilations on girls?
Strapping bombs on themselves to murder innocents?
and so on...

Killgore, please try and restrain your comparisons. I'm a Republican, as is my wife. The Nutbags don't represent me or her.

All true points.

I think Killgore's comparison was not in terms of levels of violence, but the whole idea of "You're making us act out by upsetting us."

174 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:27:46pm

re: #155 Walter L. Newton

Fine Cato, what ever, but there is no reason for HH to start treating me like he did above. I didn't even know who the hell any of you were talking about. I don't obsess over these fools.

I'll leave that for you to work out with Hoops. Perhaps he maybe might be just a tad upset, still, about the way he was treated by Yooper. And that might spill over onto you.

I'm not taking sides between the two of you. After all, I missed the whole thing myself until yesterday.

Contrary to popular rumor, I do not spend 24/7 here whilst the corn-dog sticks pile up around my desk chair.

Though it's sometimes useful if certain people think that's the case.

175 Digital Display  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:28:25pm

re: #172 Walter L. Newton

See 169
Sorry

176 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:29:24pm

re: #173 SanFranciscoZionist

All true points.

I think Killgore's comparison was not in terms of levels of violence, but the whole idea of "You're making us act out by upsetting us."

well I think there was a direct attempt to compare levels of violence & it didn't fly with me.

177 Ericus58  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:31:57pm

re: #174 Cato the Elder

"Contrary to popular rumor, I do not spend 24/7 here whilst the corn-dog sticks pile up around my desk chair."

Cato, that is just funny!! Thanks.

Hoops, I feel ya and hope this will pass. Yep, there's idiots... and then there's scum. You had the bad luck of meeting scum.

178 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:32:57pm

Looking at some of the dinging going on right now speaks volumes.

179 Ericus58  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:34:30pm

re: #173 SanFranciscoZionist

All true points.

I think Killgore's comparison was not in terms of levels of violence, but the whole idea of "You're making us act out by upsetting us."

I can understand some of that. I"d like to see KT say that in his own words, though.
But I've said my thought's and moving on, all good.

180 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:34:44pm

re: #178 Walter L. Newton

Looking at some of the dinging going on right now speaks volumes.

someone educated it to me the other night is a freedom of speech thingy...

181 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:35:05pm

re: #178 Walter L. Newton

Looking at some of the dinging going on right now speaks volumes.

What? Floral Giraffe dings up everybody.

/

182 KingKenrod  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:35:30pm

re: #171 brookly red

I do believe the originals are back together again, or at least were...

They still perform together. Daryl Hall now has a slickly produced web show called "Live From Daryl's House" where he interviews and performs with special guests like Todd Rundgren and Nick Lowe.

[Link: www.livefromdarylshouse.com...]

183 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:35:31pm

re: #90 iceweasel

What a douche. He chastised me for my 'incivility' towards dear old misogynistic old freak Buzzsaw, who called me a commie scumbag, a pig's arsehole and more (much worse).

Of course, you do realize that I'm now the reigning misogynist around here, according to Yooper, Deuce, Rose, and Mandy, right?

And why? Because of the way I ragged on Sarah Palin, back in the day, before others took over the heavy lifting for me.

Me, misogynist? Ask my current and former girlfriends about that.

184 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:37:00pm

re: #173 SanFranciscoZionist

All true points.

I think Killgore's comparison was not in terms of levels of violence, but the whole idea of "You're making us act out by upsetting us."

we call that "now look what you made me do" which of course is wrong, but so is claiming violence where there clearly is none.

185 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:37:32pm

re: #181 wrenchwench

What? Floral Giraffe dings up everybody.

/

A dinger of easy virtue.

186 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:37:46pm

re: #183 Cato the Elder

Of course, you do realize that I'm now the reigning misogynist around here, according to Yooper, Deuce, Rose, and Mandy, right?

And why? Because of the way I ragged on Sarah Palin, back in the day, before others took over the heavy lifting for me.

Me, misogynist? Ask my current and former girlfriends about that.

/they all lawyered up...

187 The Left  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:37:59pm

re: #183 Cato the Elder

Of course, you do realize that I'm now the reigning misogynist around here, according to Yooper, Deuce, Rose, and Mandy, right?

And why? Because of the way I ragged on Sarah Palin, back in the day, before others took over the heavy lifting for me.

Me, misogynist? Ask my current and former girlfriends about that.

I don't need to ask anybody, I know you myself. You're no misogynist.

They'd be calling me a misogynist too if I were male. (Which is bullshit also, but they probably believe women can't be misogynists.)
It's the whimpering of whipped butthurt. Pay it no mind.

188 Digital Display  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:38:48pm

re: #178 Walter L. Newton

Looking at some of the dinging going on right now speaks volumes.

Yes I Apologized to you..For hanging here for the last 6 months of playing dumb that I have been trashed..fair enough
And you down dinged me..
I'm sorry Walter..

189 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:39:02pm

re: #172 Walter L. Newton

I'll say it one more time... I do not pay attention to the comments about stalker blogs and stalkers and all of that stuff. When that topic comes up on any of these thread, I scroll over, I don't care, if you search the archives you will even see where Charles has chided me because of my lack of interest in who is saying what about who.

No, I don't have a clue as to what went on between you and who ever.

Don't you dare call me a lier. You know me off line, and I can't believe you can say this about me.

I'm with you, Walter. I too have no interest in the stalker blog and I do not read them or post there.

190 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:39:59pm

re: #163 brookly red

wait... your that squid like dude from Future Word, right?

The ancient world, my friend. Very, very ancient. I am a servant of Great Cthulhu, master of the demon world.

Be careful what you say to me.

191 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:41:58pm

re: #190 Cato the Elder

The ancient world, my friend. Very, very ancient. I am a servant of Great Cthulhu, master of the demon world.

Be careful what you say to me.

/ puts thumb on nose: raazzzzzzzzzzzzzz! :)

192 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:42:47pm

re: #157 Ericus58

Killgore, please try and restrain your comparisons.


No. The Republican leadership is using the exact same excuse for extremism as the RoP has been using. No difference.

Funny how you seem to notice my statement doesn't implicate every single Muslim but you only complain about the Republican aspect. Your seething and your hurt feelings aren't going to change anyone's mind. It doesn't work for the RoP and it isn't going to work for you.

193 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:44:03pm

re: #192 Killgore Trout

No. The Republican leadership is using the exact same excuse for extremism as the RoP has been using. No difference.

Funny how you seem to notice my statement doesn't implicate every single Muslim but you only complain about the Republican aspect. Your seething and your hurt feelings aren't going to change anyone's mind. It doesn't work for the RoP and it isn't going to work for you.

BIG difference... no one has been hurt, sorry to disappoint you.

194 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:45:08pm

re: #185 Decatur Deb

A dinger of easy virtue.

Watch it there, buster...
/

195 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:45:32pm

re: #193 brookly red

I know you'll continue to make excuses and obfuscate for right wing extremism until the end of time. It's not going to work out for you.

196 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:45:33pm

re: #193 brookly red

BIG difference... no one has been hurt, sorry to disappoint you.

as I said... sorry to disappoint you.

197 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:46:08pm

re: #195 Killgore Trout

I know you'll continue to make excuses and obfuscate for right wing extremism until the end of time. It's not going to work out for you.

show me the body.

198 KingKenrod  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:46:13pm

re: #192 Killgore Trout

No. The Republican leadership is using the exact same excuse for extremism as the RoP has been using. No difference.

Funny how you seem to notice my statement doesn't implicate every single Muslim but you only complain about the Republican aspect. Your seething and your hurt feelings aren't going to change anyone's mind. It doesn't work for the RoP and it isn't going to work for you.

What GOP leadership are you talking about?

199 Racer X  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:46:23pm

re: #188 HoosierHoops

Hoops, fwiw I did not know either. I knew you were being harassed by someone at the stalker blog, but did not know any specifics on what transpired. I had no idea Yooper was behind it.

200 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:46:23pm

re: #147 ausador

Damn Cato, don't you just say the nicest things about people...

Don't I, though? It's part of my irresistible charm.

201 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:46:24pm

re: #192 Killgore Trout

No. The Republican leadership is using the exact same excuse for extremism as the RoP has been using. No difference.

That their religion tells them to vandalize grills?

202 Digital Display  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:46:58pm

re: #189 Spare O'Lake

I'm with you, Walter. I too have no interest in the stalker blog and I do not read them or post there.

Me neither..
Try having your whole life exposed on the Internet by Stalkers who think you you were some one else then get back to me..
Send me all your info And we will get back to you shortly.
Seriously..Give me your info so I can send it to your boss....I got trashed...All for the laughter of a lizards here...
Send me your info..It's not a fun thing..
/Ok i'm over this...I have nothing more to say about this..

203 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:47:53pm

re: #201 RogueOne

That their religion tells them to vandalize grills?

No wait, its the stoning thing. They both throw rocks. I get it now.

204 Digital Display  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:49:08pm

re: #199 Racer X

Hoops, fwiw I did not know either. I knew you were being harassed by someone at the stalker blog, but did not know any specifics on what transpired. I had no idea Yooper was behind it.

It got pretty ugly..They all know it wasn't me now..But it got ugly for a while

205 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:49:37pm

re: #202 HoosierHoops

Whoa, wait a minute. Someone from this blog at one time contacted your employer?

206 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:50:37pm

re: #189 Spare O'Lake

I'm with you, Walter. I too have no interest in the stalker blog and I do not read them or post there.

And like I said above, I don't pay attention to comments on these threads when I see that topic come up.

The one time, the one time I ever paid attention was the night that some stalker blog posted that AGW/Programming essay I wrote, the one we discussed here. And I was warned, by email, from a good friend Lizard, that they had posted the essay and they were making fun of me. And a few days later, there was an email chain between me and some jerk over their who had emailed me and asked me to join them.

I tore him (and that blog) a new asshole. That blog also took down my essay and simply linked to the copy hosted on my server.

But other than that, I don't get involved, and I actually find all the babble to be worthless. I'm not saying that certain people shouldn't be upset about some of the crap that goes on, but at the same time, that doesn't mean I have to knwo what's going on, that I have to support one side or the other, and that I'm suppose to join in the fray.

I don't care.

207 Racer X  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:51:06pm

re: #204 HoosierHoops

It got pretty ugly..They all know it wasn't me now..But it got ugly for a while

Sorry to hear that man.

I try not to take cyberspace too seriously.

208 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:51:12pm

re: #205 RogueOne

Whoa, wait a minute. Someone from this blog at one time contacted your employer?

I think they are currently at another blog which takes an unhealthy interest in this blog, if you catch my drift ;-)

209 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:51:12pm

re: #198 KingKenrod

Lot's of links upthread. Palin, Newt, Orange man, Beck, Bachmann, etc. They've been spending two days blaming the Democrats for outraging the winguts.

210 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:51:24pm

re: #192 Killgore Trout

No. The Republican leadership is using the exact same excuse for extremism as the RoP has been using. No difference.

Funny how you seem to notice my statement doesn't implicate every single Muslim but you only complain about the Republican aspect. Your seething and your hurt feelings aren't going to change anyone's mind. It doesn't work for the RoP and it isn't going to work for you.

Good hell. Seriously?

Who has yet to say, "Behead the Democrats?" Have they said, "Death to America?!"

Have dumb things been said? YES! Have some dumb actions been taken? YES! But to KNEEJERK to kos/huffpo points is just dumb and does nothing to help win over hearts and minds.

But I guess we'll all just get used to the upcoming mold:

1. Pass crap legislation.
2. Deflect all criticisms about policy by screaming about threats.
(yes there have been stupid things going on and being infinitely more loudspeakered since it helps the atmosphere.)
3. Pass more crap legislation.

As soon as there is a dead body, I might, hell, even then it will depend on the number since there is WHOLE lot of death that would have to take place, to allow you to justify a (R) to (Rop) comparison.

211 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:51:25pm

re: #199 Racer X

Hoops, fwiw I did not know either. I knew you were being harassed by someone at the stalker blog, but did not know any specifics on what transpired. I had no idea Yooper was behind it.

WHAT! Playing dumb?

212 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:51:28pm

re: #197 brookly red

show me the body.

busted...

213 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:51:53pm

Hoops, I am so sorry that this crap happened to you. Cookie? They're fresh.

214 Ericus58  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:52:33pm

re: #192 Killgore Trout

No. The Republican leadership is using the exact same excuse for extremism as the RoP has been using. No difference.

Funny how you seem to notice my statement doesn't implicate every single Muslim but you only complain about the Republican aspect. Your seething and your hurt feelings aren't going to change anyone's mind. It doesn't work for the RoP and it isn't going to work for you.

Why are you taking this to a personal attack on me now?
And where have I ever made the claim that all Muslims are represented by those that carry out the behavior I listed? No Where.
We all know what RoP represents here and was I asked you for maturity when making comparisons. Think I did it in a manner that was respectful.

That was a childish response.

215 Racer X  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:52:50pm

re: #211 Walter L. Newton

WHAT! Playing dumb?

Playing? Heck no. I am dumb.

216 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:53:07pm

re: #214 Ericus58

That was a childish response.


Was not.

217 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:53:23pm

re: #202 HoosierHoops

*smooch*

218 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:53:36pm

re: #214 Ericus58

Why are you taking this to a personal attack on me now?
And where have I ever made the claim that all Muslims are represented by those that carry out the behavior I listed? No Where.
We all know what RoP represents here and was I asked you for maturity when making comparisons. Think I did it in a manner that was respectful.

That was a childish response.

no, we scurry for cover when the lights come on...

219 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:53:42pm

I spent the day at an amusement park with the kids, and I thought I'd ask:

If you could have one ride from an amusement park in your backyard for your own personal amusement, what would it be?

Rock wall?
Bumper cars?
Putt putt?

220 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:53:44pm

re: #207 Racer X

Sorry to hear that man.

I try not to take cyberspace too seriously.

Sometimes other people decide to take it seriously, and mess with your life, at that point, one sorta has no choice!

This is the only internet forum/site/blog/etc I am on, out of maybe half a dozen where I regularly hang out, where I feel like I have to hide my identity. It's pretty wild!

221 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:54:38pm

re: #219 EmmmieG

I spent the day at an amusement park with the kids, and I thought I'd ask:

If you could have one ride from an amusement park in your backyard for your own personal amusement, what would it be?

Rock wall?
Bumper cars?
Putt putt?

BUMPER CARS!!11!

and a cookie?

222 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:54:57pm

re: #219 EmmmieG

I spent the day at an amusement park with the kids, and I thought I'd ask:

If you could have one ride from an amusement park in your backyard for your own personal amusement, what would it be?

Rock wall?
Bumper cars?
Putt putt?

Dueling Dragons...Universal Studios
imagine the cool water fights!

223 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:55:31pm

re: #202 HoosierHoops

Me neither..
Try having your whole life exposed on the Internet by Stalkers who think you you were some one else then get back to me..
Send me all your info And we will get back to you shortly.
Seriously..Give me your info so I can send it to your boss...I got trashed...All for the laughter of a lizards here...
Send me your info..It's not a fun thing..
/Ok i'm over this...I have nothing more to say about this..


Wow, that is really disgusting.
Honestly, I have no idea about any of this stuff. Having read some of the comments on this thread, I am now starting to wonder if some of what I have considered to be irrational hate and backbiting around here might be triggered by or related to conduct at other blogs and so might not be what it appears to be at first glance.
This is creeping me out.

224 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:55:50pm

re: #220 WindUpBird

Sometimes other people decide to take it seriously, and mess with your life, at that point, one sorta has no choice!

This is the only internet forum/site/blog/etc I am on, out of maybe half a dozen where I regularly hang out, where I feel like I have to hide my identity. It's pretty wild!

That's why I am totally public on the interwebs. I don't post anything I wouldn't stand behind, I don't play any games with secret personalities, click on my name and you are 10 steps closer to stealing my identity.

I've been on here since the late 70's. Never hide behind anything. And if anyone don't like what I say, they know where to get a hold of me.

225 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:56:19pm

re: #221 wrenchwench

BUMPER CARS!!11!

and a cookie?

Yes!
*Bumps wrenchwench*

226 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:56:51pm

re: #219 EmmmieG

I spent the day at an amusement park with the kids, and I thought I'd ask:

If you could have one ride from an amusement park in your backyard for your own personal amusement, what would it be?

Rock wall?
Bumper cars?
Putt putt?

The Racer coaster from Kennywood Park. (Thinking big here.)

227 Racer X  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:57:03pm

re: #219 EmmmieG

I spent the day at an amusement park with the kids, and I thought I'd ask:

If you could have one ride from an amusement park in your backyard for your own personal amusement, what would it be?

Rock wall?
Bumper cars?
Putt putt?

How about a cool rollercoaster?

Or even better - the Jungle Cruise from Disneyland - but you would have to have the tour guides and cheesy jokes to go with it.

228 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:57:14pm

re: #225 Floral Giraffe

Yes!
*Bumps wrenchwench*

*SLAM*

Oops, sorry!

229 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:58:02pm

re: #224 Walter L. Newton

That's why I am totally public on the interwebs. I don't post anything I wouldn't stand behind, I don't play any games with secret personalities, click on my name and you are 10 steps closer to stealing my identity.

I've been on here since the late 70's. Never hide behind anything. And if anyone don't like what I say, they know where to get a hold of me.

Yeah, I got nothing to hide, nor lead an interesting enough life for anyone to really care. But in my mind I am the hero of my own story. heh.

230 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:58:07pm

re: #210 Oh no...Sand People!

Good hell. Seriously?

Who has yet to say, "Behead the Democrats?" Have they said, "Death to America?!"

Have dumb things been said? YES! Have some dumb actions been taken? YES! But to KNEEJERK to kos/huffpo points is just dumb and does nothing to help win over hearts and minds.

But I guess we'll all just get used to the upcoming mold:

1. Pass crap legislation.
2. Deflect all criticisms about policy by screaming about threats.
(yes there have been stupid things going on and being infinitely more loudspeakered since it helps the atmosphere.)
3. Pass more crap legislation.

As soon as there is a dead body, I might, hell, even then it will depend on the number since there is WHOLE lot of death that would have to take place, to allow you to justify a (R) to (Rop) comparison.

The thing is, we're a nation of laws, and here in America, our nation of laws, people are usually held accountable for their actions.

But you have purportedly mainstream social conservatives, in America, people with some power, advocating killing or imprisoning for life gay people in Uganda. What that tells me, is the only thing that stops these people from advocating more violence and more monstrosities here is the fact that our nation's machinery, laws, media, and the general transparent nature of our society make it infeasable.

I repeat: they go to other countries, and advocate that we should kill queers outright. This is the nature of these people.

231 Ericus58  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:58:32pm

re: #216 Killgore Trout

Was not.

Thank you for your Apology.

232 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:58:36pm

well I gotta go walk the mastiffs... feel free to provide lot's of evidence of right wing violence in the meantime... I know the carnage is appalling.

233 Digital Display  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:58:46pm

re: #205 RogueOne

Whoa, wait a minute. Someone from this blog at one time contacted your employer?

I had a charity Site last year called food4humanity.org..
I know it wasn't much.. I just wanted to do something good for poor families..
( You know the whole Bible thing about I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat or drink...I just wanted to do something good)
Once I got outed which is easy since you can't hide behind behind a nic running a little charity..
I got fucking trashed as a web site..I got called every name in the book...I wrote Charles..Why are they doing this to me? I only want to help and I'm being called a Charity Pimp on the Internet.. I have to start over...
All for a blog I never wrote...I swear to God that will never happen again...

234 Racer X  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:58:49pm

re: #223 Spare O'Lake

Wow, that is really disgusting.
Honestly, I have no idea about any of this stuff. Having read some of the comments on this thread, I am now starting to wonder if some of what I have considered to be irrational hate and backbiting around here might be triggered by or related to conduct at other blogs and so might not be what it appears to be at first glance.
This is creeping me out.

Agreed.

My eyes got opened a little bit more today about stuff.

235 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:59:08pm

re: #227 Racer X

How about a cool rollercoaster?

Or even better - the Jungle Cruise from Disneyland - but you would have to have the tour guides and cheesy jokes to go with it.

I would love a wooden coaster, but would settle for an old fashion dark ride, with cast iron Pretzel cars and enough tricks and track that I could set up my own ride layout. When I get done putting together a dark ride, "yes... there will be blood."

236 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:00:49pm

re: #208 WindUpBird

I think they are currently at another blog which takes an unhealthy interest in this blog, if you catch my drift ;-)

That really is unhealthy behavior. I can't imagine what it takes to give a shit what some butthole I don't know from Adam says about any subject on a political blog. I just don't care enough I guess.

237 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:01:10pm

re: #224 Walter L. Newton

That's why I am totally public on the interwebs. I don't post anything I wouldn't stand behind, I don't play any games with secret personalities, click on my name and you are 10 steps closer to stealing my identity.

I've been on here since the late 70's. Never hide behind anything. And if anyone don't like what I say, they know where to get a hold of me.

You don't think that Iceweasel stands behind what she says? You don't think that if her real identity were out there, that people from the stalker blog wouldn't harass her?

I obscure my identity SPECIFICALLY because of Hoosier Hoops' and Dark Falcon's experiences. It's not because of people here, it's because of people who troll this board looking for targets.

238 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:01:41pm

re: #227 Racer X

How about a cool rollercoaster?

Or even better - the Jungle Cruise from Disneyland - but you would have to have the tour guides and cheesy jokes to go with it.

When number 2 son was three, he went with his mother while I stayed behind on the dock. When the guide said "We're leaving now, and maybe never coming back", the kid lost it. Bad 20 minutes for all hands. "MY DADDY'S BACK AT THE DOCK."

239 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:01:45pm

re: #235 Walter L. Newton

I would love a wooden coaster, but would settle for an old fashion dark ride, with cast iron Pretzel cars and enough tricks and track that I could set up my own ride layout. When I get done putting together a dark ride, "yes... there will be blood."

the Mean Streak at Cedar Point
all wood, and one bad mutha
[Link: www.cedarpoint.com...]

240 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:02:06pm

re: #219 EmmmieG

I spent the day at an amusement park with the kids, and I thought I'd ask:

If you could have one ride from an amusement park in your backyard for your own personal amusement, what would it be?

Rock wall?
Bumper cars?
Putt putt?

Carousel from Disneyland?

241 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:02:11pm

re: #187 iceweasel

I don't need to ask anybody, I know you myself. You're no misogynist.

They'd be calling me a misogynist too if I were male. (Which is bullshit also, but they probably believe women can't be misogynists.)
It's the whimpering of whipped butthurt. Pay it no mind.

The same people used to call Kejda misogynist, when Kejda would mock Sarah Palin.

Kejda! Misogynist!

The fun never stops.

242 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:02:12pm

I'm greedy. I want a whole house full of secret passages and hidden caches of cool stuff. I wanna have to solve riddles and find keys and ancient artifacts. I want mysteries.

Although, actually, they don't make amusement parks ride like this. They should.

243 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:02:27pm

re: #224 Walter L. Newton

That's why I am totally public on the interwebs. I don't post anything I wouldn't stand behind, I don't play any games with secret personalities, click on my name and you are 10 steps closer to stealing my identity.

I've been on here since the late 70's. Never hide behind anything. And if anyone don't like what I say, they know where to get a hold of me.

Not me, I keep my identity a secret. But that's because I am actually the Queen of England.

244 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:02:58pm

re: #219 EmmmieG

I spent the day at an amusement park with the kids, and I thought I'd ask:

If you could have one ride from an amusement park in your backyard for your own personal amusement, what would it be?

Rock wall?
Bumper cars?
Putt putt?

Do arcade games count as amusements? I'd love a roller coaster, but what I really want is a sit-down Spacer Harrier machine, maybe a Discs of Tron in pristine condition...

245 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:03:25pm

re: #242 EmmmieG

I'm greedy. I want a whole house full of secret passages and hidden caches of cool stuff. I wanna have to solve riddles and find keys and ancient artifacts. I want mysteries.

Although, actually, they don't make amusement parks ride like this. They should.

You'd probably love the Winchester house.

246 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:03:26pm

re: #243 Spare O'Lake

Not me, I keep my identity a secret. But that's because I am actually the Queen of England.

YOU'RE ELTON JOHN??!?!?

//// :D

247 Racer X  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:03:28pm

re: #237 WindUpBird

You don't think that Iceweasel stands behind what she says? You don't think that if her real identity were out there, that people from the stalker blog wouldn't harass her?

I obscure my identity SPECIFICALLY because of Hoosier Hoops' and Dark Falcon's experiences. It's not because of people here, it's because of people who troll this board looking for targets.

There are some really bad people out there. I've run into a few over the years in the meat world. It's a good idea to keep some anonymity in a public forum.

248 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:03:29pm

re: #237 WindUpBird

You don't think that Iceweasel stands behind what she says? You don't think that if her real identity were out there, that people from the stalker blog wouldn't harass her?

I obscure my identity SPECIFICALLY because of Hoosier Hoops' and Dark Falcon's experiences. It's not because of people here, it's because of people who troll this board looking for targets.

Where did I say anyone doesn't stand behind what they say? I didn't, did I? I was talking about myself, wasn't I? My whole comment was about "The Walter Show," not about Iceweasel, not about you, not about anything else.

I didn't say anything about anyone here, did I?

249 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:03:38pm

re: #245 JasonA

You'd probably love the Winchester house.

beat me to it :D

250 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:04:55pm

re: #246 WindUpBird

YOU'RE ELTON JOHN??!?!?

/// :D

so much for the phony support of gays....

251 Digital Display  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:05:08pm

re: #211 Walter L. Newton

WHAT! Playing dumb?

I may be the only person in the whole fucking world that has ever apologized to you here...And with humbleness and sorrow..
What do you want from me..Yooper post jacked me up..
Will you accept?

252 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:05:44pm

re: #230 WindUpBird

The thing is, we're a nation of laws, and here in America, our nation of laws, people are usually held accountable for their actions.

But you have purportedly mainstream social conservatives, in America, people with some power, advocating killing or imprisoning for life gay people in Uganda. What that tells me, is the only thing that stops these people from advocating more violence and more monstrosities here is the fact that our nation's machinery, laws, media, and the general transparent nature of our society make it infeasable.

I repeat: they go to other countries, and advocate that we should kill queers outright. This is the nature of these people.

Are there disgusting elements in both parties? I agree.

The Rop, Islamists not muslims, have a track record of death that spans centuries in and outside of their own culture and lands. As soon as an (R) straps a suicide belt to his A** and blows up a building, all proven to be politically motivated, it would STILL require a WHOLE lot of death to equal the Rop's skill level.

But so far, the rule of law HERE, USA, has been kept up quite well. KT is painting with the broad brushes.

253 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:06:32pm

re: #248 Walter L. Newton

Where did I say anyone doesn't stand behind what they say? I didn't, did I? I was talking about myself, wasn't I? My whole comment was about "The Walter Show," not about Iceweasel, not about you, not about anything else.

I didn't say anything about anyone here, did I?

No, what I mean is, standing behind what you say has nothing to do with being motivated to keep your identity private, that's all.

What I mean is, you can 100% stand behind what you say, (as of course I believe you do) and think you SHOULD be public because that's ideally the way it shoudl be, but yet decide for tangible reasons not to let people in on where you live and what your real name is. There are bloggers in tech who had to quit blogging because they were harrassed by people so much. it's really something.

I'm honestly sorta on your side, I didn't think it was a problem, until I heard about people like DF getting death threats. I'm on a blog to have fun and talk politics, and if I'm gonna expose myself to death threats for the privilege, I'm going to keep my personal stuff secret!

254 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:07:05pm

re: #250 brookly red

so much for the phony support of gays...

hahaha dude, I am actually gay but nice try

255 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:07:22pm

re: #248 Walter L. Newton

Where did I say anyone doesn't stand behind what they say? I didn't, did I? I was talking about myself, wasn't I? My whole comment was about "The Walter Show," not about Iceweasel, not about you, not about anything else.

I didn't say anything about anyone here, did I?

weird

256 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:08:13pm

re: #253 WindUpBird

No, what I mean is, standing behind what you say has nothing to do with being motivated to keep your identity private, that's all.

What I mean is, you can 100% stand behind what you say, (as of course I believe you do) and think you SHOULD be public because that's ideally the way it shoudl be, but yet decide for tangible reasons not to let people in on where you live and what your real name is. There are bloggers in tech who had to quit blogging because they were harrassed by people so much. it's really something.

I'm honestly sorta on your side, I didn't think it was a problem, until I heard about people like DF getting death threats. I'm on a blog to have fun and talk politics, and if I'm gonna expose myself to death threats for the privilege, I'm going to keep my personal stuff secret!

keep yer bizness in yer pocket mister that's where it belongs...

257 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:08:31pm

re: #246 WindUpBird

YOU'RE ELTON JOHN??!?!?

/// :D

That's SIR Elton to you, fellah.

258 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:08:42pm

re: #251 HoosierHoops

I may be the only person in the whole fucking world that has ever apologized to you here...And with humbleness and sorrow..
What do you want from me..Yooper post jacked me up..
Will you accept?

Yes...

259 Ericus58  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:08:49pm

re: #251 HoosierHoops

I may be the only person in the whole fucking world that has ever apologized to you here...And with humbleness and sorrow..
What do you want from me..Yooper post jacked me up..
Will you accept?

C'Mon Walter - do it. Step up to the plate.

260 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:08:53pm

if you don't want problems with stalkers, don't give them cred and don't go there...pretty simple

261 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:09:57pm

re: #260 albusteve

Well in fairness, both WUB and I have had someone encourage others to stalk us at least once on this very blog.

262 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:09:57pm

re: #254 WindUpBird

hahaha dude, I am actually gay but nice try

/ yes but do you support your self ?

OK, touche. + 1 for toy bird....

263 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:10:02pm

re: #252 Oh no...Sand People!

Are there disgusting elements in both parties? I agree.

The Rop, Islamists not muslims, have a track record of death that spans centuries in and outside of their own culture and lands. As soon as an (R) straps a suicide belt to his A** and blows up a building, all proven to be politically motivated, it would STILL require a WHOLE lot of death to equal the Rop's skill level.

But so far, the rule of law HERE, USA, has been kept up quite well. KT is painting with the broad brushes.

Just because Islamists kill, doesn't mean we excuse or minimize death threats and the advocacy of institutionalized murder in America.

The rule of law is kept here, and that doesn't change the fact that we have our own extremists, who run in the evangelicalcircles, who are far right social conservatives, who would happily advocate murder if the political and legal climate allowed them. Hell, Randall Terry has been doing it for years.

264 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:10:16pm

re: #251 HoosierHoops

I may be the only person in the whole fucking world that has ever apologized to you here...And with humbleness and sorrow..
What do you want from me..Yooper post jacked me up..
Will you accept?


re: #258 Walter L. Newton

Yes...

I have something in my eye, BBL

265 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:10:21pm

Also, I"m back! The extraction was actually a failure >> Better luck next week, I guess ;)

266 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:10:39pm

re: #259 Ericus58

C'Mon Walter - do it. Step up to the plate.


[Video]

well that was pretty awful

267 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:10:41pm

re: #257 Spare O'Lake

That's SIR Elton to you, fellah.

It is true!


(I'll say for the record that I want his rooster costume so bad it boggles the mind)

268 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:11:05pm

re: #262 brookly red

/ yes but do you support your self ?

OK, touche. + 1 for toy bird...

Well, I dont wear a cup if that's what you mean :D

269 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:11:14pm

re: #267 WindUpBird

I always thought that guy should have played Herod in JC:SS.

270 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:11:26pm

re: #261 windsagio

Well in fairness, both WUB and I have had someone encourage others to stalk us at least once on this very blog.

Yep!

I'll be nice and not say who.

271 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:11:49pm

re: #269 windsagio

I always thought that guy should have played Herod in JC:SS.

Oh, he would have KILLED as Herod :D

272 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:12:07pm

re: #248 Walter L. Newton

Where did I say anyone doesn't stand behind what they say? I didn't, did I? I was talking about myself, wasn't I? My whole comment was about "The Walter Show," not about Iceweasel, not about you, not about anything else.

I didn't say anything about anyone here, did I?

"The Walter Show," wow that's a really good term for it. I was sitting here wondering why you have to keep telling us how little you care about stalkers harassing lizards like HH, instead of just letting your silence speak for itself. Now it all makes sense.

273 Digital Display  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:12:24pm

re: #260 albusteve

if you don't want problems with stalkers, don't give them cred and don't go there...pretty simple

Send me all your personal information on the Internet..Oh wait..I'll just fucking hack it and post it..
It's kind of ugly out there Steve.. I don't post anywhere on the Internet any more Steve.. I just hang out here....I'm over it..I had no idea..Damn

274 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:12:39pm

re: #261 windsagio

Well in fairness, both WUB and I have had someone encourage others to stalk us at least once on this very blog.

YUCK.

275 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:12:43pm

re: #268 WindUpBird

Well, I dont wear a cup if that's what you mean :D

well around here you should...

276 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:12:53pm

re: #253 WindUpBird

No, what I mean is, standing behind what you say has nothing to do with being motivated to keep your identity private, that's all.

What I mean is, you can 100% stand behind what you say, (as of course I believe you do) and think you SHOULD be public because that's ideally the way it shoudl be, but yet decide for tangible reasons not to let people in on where you live and what your real name is. There are bloggers in tech who had to quit blogging because they were harrassed by people so much. it's really something.

I'm honestly sorta on your side, I didn't think it was a problem, until I heard about people like DF getting death threats. I'm on a blog to have fun and talk politics, and if I'm gonna expose myself to death threats for the privilege, I'm going to keep my personal stuff secret!

I guess it's up the the person. I wouldn't be bothered by any level of harassment on the internet, right up to death threats. That's just me.

When you have grown up like I have, with some of the most cruel personal abuse can be thrown at a person, living in some of the most chaotic domestic situations as I have, and my natural tendency to see humans for what they are (good, bad or otherwise) and not be surprised by any turn of events, you get really mellow about things, there is not much of anything that can rattle me.

Fearless... yes really... almost.

277 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:12:54pm

re: #263 WindUpBird

Just because Islamists kill, doesn't mean we excuse or minimize death threats and the advocacy of institutionalized murder in America.

The rule of law is kept here, and that doesn't change the fact that we have our own extremists, who run in the evangelicalcircles, who are far right social conservatives, who would happily advocate murder if the political and legal climate allowed them. Hell, Randall Terry has been doing it for years.

No one is excusing it. To say (R) = (Rop) is intellectually bankrupt.

278 KingKenrod  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:14:15pm

re: #209 Killgore Trout

Lot's of links upthread. Palin, Newt, Orange man, Beck, Bachmann, etc. They've been spending two days blaming the Democrats for outraging the winguts.

I think Bachmann's comments about being "armed and dangerous" are over the line, but it's closer to separatist rhetoric...I fail to see how you conflate this with the GOP turning into the RoP.

It's an obvious over-statement...in fact, you are sort of doing exactly what you accuse the GOP leadership of - demonizing the GOP by comparing them with a loathsome enemy, an enemy most people have no problem using violence against...

279 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:14:18pm

OK now I really have to walk the Mastiffs... they are starting to fart. not good.

280 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:14:27pm

re: #252 Oh no...Sand People!

But so far, the rule of law HERE, USA, has been kept up quite well. KT is painting with the broad brushes.


There are mountains of evidence about the threat of right wing terrorism. The DHS, ADL have cataloged this extensively. We've documented many cases here on LGF of threats and arrests of potential terrorists. I have little patience with people who want to obfuscate for terrorism against their fellow citizens. It's disgraceful. We've been very lucky so far but I really don't see much chance of this passing without bloodshed.

281 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:14:39pm

re: #269 windsagio

I always thought that guy should have played Herod in JC:SS.

I saw the original NY production in 1972 eight times. Paul Ainsley was the best of all the Herods I had seen, there was a number of them that rotated through the show during the run.

282 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:14:47pm

re: #272 goddamnedfrank

I have this fun game I play with Walter (or he plays with me maybe) where he likes to throw up these double-blinds, and I try to figure out whats legitimate and what isn't.

Its a way to pass an afternoon :D

283 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:14:58pm

re: #279 brookly red

OK now I really have to walk the Mastiffs... they are starting to fart. not good.

I feel better just knowing that.

284 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:15:27pm

re: #281 Walter L. Newton

I saw the original NY production in 1972 eight times. Paul Ainsley was the best of all the Herods I had seen, there was a number of them that rotated through the show during the run.

You lucky bastard. I wasn't alive in 1972. I'da killed to see that show.

285 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:15:32pm

re: #278 KingKenrod

I fail to see how you conflate this with the GOP turning into the RoP.


Well you can sit and seethe with the rest of the wingnuts.

286 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:15:57pm

re: #272 goddamnedfrank

"The Walter Show," wow that's a really good term for it. I was sitting here wondering why you have to keep telling us how little you care about stalkers harassing lizards like HH, instead of just letting your silence speak for itself. Now it all makes sense.

Yawn.

287 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:16:10pm

re: #285 Killgore Trout

Well you can sit and seethe with the rest of the wingnuts.

bite me :)

288 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:16:15pm

I'd like to know how people can get your personal information on this blog unless you yourself let it slip.

289 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:16:48pm

re: #277 Oh no...Sand People!

No one is excusing it. To say (R) = (Rop) is intellectually bankrupt.

No, it's not equal, because we're here, we've got a billion pieces of cultural machinery in place to keep that from happening.

But what do you say about a dude who advocates for the killing of abortion doctors? That's terrorism, plain and simple. That's right there.

And when they go elsewhere in the world and they advocate for more killings, more murder? Then we know: we know that at their core, these so-cons, these people are the civilized, watered-down weak sauce version of Islamists. They won't kill people themselves! Of course not. That's messy and difficult and frightening. They like their cushy lives too much. They'll just go to Africa and tell their government to do it. Much easier that way!

290 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:17:20pm

re: #287 brookly red

Since we're about not hiding yourself, do you guys wanna know one of the stories from one of my seedier periods on the internet? >>

291 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:17:36pm

re: #281 Walter L. Newton

I saw the original NY production in 1972 eight times. Paul Ainsley was the best of all the Herods I had seen, there was a number of them that rotated through the show during the run.

UP

DING

o_o

292 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:17:51pm

I'm not going to be here next week so I have to post this early.

No offense intended.

293 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:17:56pm

re: #288 Spare O'Lake

Some people have links to their personal websites, in their signature lines.

294 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:18:30pm

re: #293 Floral Giraffe

or if they use nicks that they use other places. You don't even need a link.

295 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:18:38pm

re: #280 Killgore Trout

There are mountains of evidence about the threat of right wing terrorism. The DHS, ADL have cataloged this extensively. We've documented many cases here on LGF of threats and arrests of potential terrorists. I have little patience with people who want to obfuscate for terrorism against their fellow citizens. It's disgraceful. We've been very lucky so far but I really don't see much chance of this passing without bloodshed.

As well as the ACTUAL DEAD documented here caused in the places of IRAN, Philippines, Jerusalem, Lebanon, Egypt, Syria, Sri Lanka, Singapore ad INFINITUM...

Potential vs. Kinetic = big difference.

Yes the rhetoric has hit stupid levels, but though I disagree with what you say, I will defend to the very death your right to say it.

Unless we need 'Speech reform' next.

296 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:18:53pm

re: #288 Spare O'Lake

I'd like to know how people can get your personal information on this blog unless you yourself let it slip.

Well, you have to be open with it. :)

I'm not, so I'm pretty safe. I suppose if someone were like the nerd equivalent of Rockford, stalking me at cons across the country in his firebird, they'd eventually find me :D

297 Racer X  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:19:07pm

Well it is Friday night and I think time for some more Smooth Jazz.

298 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:19:18pm

re: #288 Spare O'Lake

I'd like to know how people can get your personal information on this blog unless you yourself let it slip.

Nothing sinister--many of us have put out enough bits and pieces for a determined person to play detective.

299 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:19:20pm

re: #293 Floral Giraffe

Some people have links to their personal websites, in their signature lines.

I did, then I got rid of it, and replaced it with an art gallery of my work that doesn't link to my real name.

300 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:19:27pm

re: #295 Oh no...Sand People!

I like your CAPS on IRAN. next time bold and italicize it too, or we might not get whats important to you.

301 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:19:30pm

re: #237 WindUpBird

You don't think that Iceweasel stands behind what she says? You don't think that if her real identity were out there, that people from the stalker blog wouldn't harass her?

I obscure my identity SPECIFICALLY because of Hoosier Hoops' and Dark Falcon's experiences. It's not because of people here, it's because of people who troll this board looking for targets.

The Deucers and Robert Spencer and Shrieks all know my "true identity". As do Irish Rose and Yooper.

So far nothing has come of it, except for a few calls by Deucers back in the day (on Zombie's blog, which Zombie, to Zombie's credit, deleted) that someone should come and kill my beloved companion and medical service dog, Haku.

That, however, was quite enough for me. I have every understanding for people who are targets of malicious freaks and try their best to keep their personal info to themselves.

I outed myself, by the way, after I was outed. It's a matter of record here on this blog.

I have also taken, shall we say, certain steps to be implemented if anything untoward should happen.

302 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:19:58pm

re: #284 windsagio

You lucky bastard. I wasn't alive in 1972. I'da killed to see that show.

This is a true story. I was working out the musical score at home on my keyboard, and at the time, there was only some of those basic music books with 7-8 of the major songs. I wanted to work out all the scoring, the transitions, the underscore, the little nuances in the arrangements.

On day I was at the Mark Hellinger to see the show, a 2:00pm matinee, I was in the first row center. After the performance, everyone started to exit, the conductor LEFT the grand score on his podium, I guess he figured he's be back in a hour after supper for the evening show.

I actually bent over the pit and had my hands on the score, I was going to grab it and walk out, which really would not have been hard to do.

I put it back.

303 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:20:26pm

re: #298 Decatur Deb

Nothing sinister--many of us have put out enough bits and pieces for a determined person to play detective.

EmmmieG...in the lounge...with the trollbat.

304 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:20:27pm

re: #295 Oh no...Sand People!

As well as the ACTUAL DEAD documented here caused in the places of IRAN, Philippines, Jerusalem, Lebanon, Egypt, Syria, Sri Lanka, Singapore ad INFINITUM...

Potential vs. Kinetic = big difference.

Yes the rhetoric has hit stupid levels, but though I disagree with what you say, I will defend to the very death your right to say it.

Unless we need 'Speech reform' next.

likely on the way imo...little difference between hate crime and hate speech, in premise, and so on

305 KingKenrod  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:20:48pm

re: #285 Killgore Trout

Well you can sit and seethe with the rest of the wingnuts.

Whatever! Your argument isn't rational, its rhetoric. You should stick to the separatist meme, it's more on target...

306 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:20:57pm

re: #302 Walter L. Newton

bet you regret it now, imagine what that'd be worth!

*I kid, it was good of you to put it back :P

307 Obdicut  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:21:36pm

re: #296 WindUpBird

Rockford rules. One of the best TV shows ever.

308 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:22:16pm

re: #304 albusteve

likely on the way imo...little difference between hate crime and hate speech, in premise, and so on


I don't think hate speech should be illegal in the US.

I will say that incitement to violence should be at least unlawful.

And there's a big difference between hate speech a hate crime, unless you consider a guy shouting bad words to be equivalent to being curbstomped or having your synagogue painted with swastikas.

309 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:22:36pm

re: #300 windsagio

Wait!

IRAN!!!!!!1111!!

/MOAR!!

310 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:22:36pm

re: #306 windsagio

bet you regret it now, imagine what that'd be worth!

*I kid, it was good of you to put it back :P

It was hand scored, I imagine by Webber himself.

311 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:22:49pm

re: #307 Obdicut

Rockford rules. One of the best TV shows ever.

I'd watch it with my mother every afternoon! My car in high school looked EXACTLY like Rockford's firebird, except his was gold and mine was yellow. :D

312 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:23:00pm

re: #310 Walter L. Newton

It was hand scored, I imagine by Webber himself.

oh wow :D

313 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:23:21pm

re: #309 Oh no...Sand People!

There you go. Wasn't that cathartic? :D

re: #308 WindUpBird

There's no difference between shouting epithets and hanging people!

314 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:23:36pm

re: #301 Cato the Elder

The Deucers and Robert Spencer and Shrieks all know my "true identity". As do Irish Rose and Yooper.

So far nothing has come of it, except for a few calls by Deucers back in the day (on Zombie's blog, which Zombie, to Zombie's credit, deleted) that someone should come and kill my beloved companion and medical service dog, Haku.

That, however, was quite enough for me. I have every understanding for people who are targets of malicious freaks and try their best to keep their personal info to themselves.

I outed myself, by the way, after I was outed. It's a matter of record here on this blog.

I have also taken, shall we say, certain steps to be implemented if anything untoward should happen.

Interesting, I never knew that about you.
Is this perhaps why your limericks are so crappy?

315 KingKenrod  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:24:25pm

"24" has been canceled.

I never watched it. Not one single episode.

316 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:24:45pm

re: #313 windsagio

There you go. Wasn't that cathartic? :D

re: #308 WindUpBird

There's no difference between shouting epithets and hanging people!

Been one of those days. But yeah, good times.

317 Obdicut  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:24:49pm

re: #311 WindUpBird

I'd watch it with my dad, during the summers, on some local San Francisco station.

My favorite is the episode where Becker invests in a hotel, and it turns out he only bought the lobby. Jim (and Angel, of course) pull a con to get him his money back, involving drilling for oil in the front lawn of the hotel.

318 Racer X  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:25:23pm

I see where you are coming from.

Berlin-based artist Hans Hemmert (famous for his work with balloons) threw a party where guests wore shoe-extenders to make them all the same height of 2 meters.

Aside from bringing the partygoers all to a common eye level (and eliminating the awkward postures of party talk between the tall and the short), the gathering is lent an infographic nature by the shoes: all made from blue foam, the person's real height is read in the visual uniformity of the sole instead of at the head—like a walking bar graph.

319 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:25:26pm

re: #301 Cato the Elder

That was A DOG? When you stopped by, you told me it was your girlfriend. You guys... ("you guys..." name the movie reference)

320 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:25:48pm

re: #316 Oh no...Sand People!

Tell me about it, just spend an hour and a half in the dentist's office for absolutely no gain.

321 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:26:23pm

re: #315 KingKenrod

"24" has been canceled.

I never watched it. Not one single episode.

CANCELED... let's water board Roger Ailes to get it back.

322 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:26:41pm

re: #318 Racer X

Hah, I've gotta admit, I love pretentious crap like that :p

323 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:27:15pm

re: #320 windsagio

Tell me about it, just spend an hour and a half in the dentist's office for absolutely no gain.

Not even 20 HC tabs? Come on, you should ALWAYS be able to pop some codeine.

324 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:27:40pm

re: #323 Walter L. Newton

Not even 20 HC tabs? Come on, you should ALWAYS be able to pop some codeine.

OK point taken, I got 12 :p

325 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:27:54pm

re: #323 Walter L. Newton

PAAAARTY AT WINDIE'S HOUSE!!!

326 reine.de.tout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:28:14pm

re: #293 Floral Giraffe

Some people have links to their personal websites, in their signature lines.

Some people try to be the messenger for a cookbook.

327 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:28:14pm

re: #324 windsagio

OK point taken, I got 12 :p

Only 12. 3.0mm, 5.0mm or 7.5mm

328 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:29:09pm

re: #327 Walter L. Newton

mm? I presume you mean mg :p 5.

... you're not gonna fly over from Colorado and rob me are you?

329 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:29:53pm

re: #320 windsagio

Tell me about it, just spend an hour and a half in the dentist's office for absolutely no gain.

Yeah, Father-in-law, my dentist, had an extra special glint in his eye after he spent 30 minutes and about 8 needles on my mouth only to begin the drilling, and I about died from pain after 2 minutes of drilling.

"Well, you need an endodontist, sorry about the pain."

"I bet..."

330 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:30:05pm

re: #326 reine.de.tout

Some people try to be the messenger for a cookbook.

And, do it with style and grace!

331 reine.de.tout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:30:32pm

re: #330 Floral Giraffe

And, do it with style and grace!

You always brighten my day!

332 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:30:32pm

Dog to walk. BBL

333 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:30:33pm

re: #329 Oh no...Sand People!

Aah, in-laws :D

One of the reasons I'm glad I"m single right now >>

334 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:31:09pm

re: #331 reine.de.tout

You always brighten my day!

My pleasure!

335 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:32:10pm

re: #333 windsagio

Aah, in-laws :D

One of the reasons I'm glad I"m single right now >>

Heh.

Well, later all. Gotta go (insert action verb) a (insert government building here).

336 Racer X  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:32:21pm
337 webevintage  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:32:43pm

Did Cantor have a "my bad" presser today by any chance that I missed?

338 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:32:44pm

re: #319 Walter L. Newton

That was A DOG? When you stopped by, you told me it was your girlfriend. You guys... ("you guys..." name the movie reference)

I think your memory may be slightly off. I introduced you to my girlfriend, remember? The Sarah Palin blow-up doll?

I do hope you'll correct the record for posterity.

339 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:33:40pm

Media Matters' Eric Burns says Beck is "a serious threat to our democratic process" (video)
Nothing to see here, move along. Hurt feelings....seethe.....etc

340 bratwurst  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:33:47pm

re: #315 KingKenrod

"24" has been canceled.

I never watched it. Not one single episode.

Torture fans will have to get their jollies elsewhere.

341 darthstar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:35:21pm

re: #315 KingKenrod

"24" has been canceled.

I never watched it. Not one single episode.

It's about fuckin' time.

342 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:36:22pm

re: #339 Killgore Trout

Media Matters' Eric Burns says Beck is "a serious threat to our democratic process" (video)
Nothing to see here, move along. Hurt feelings...seethe...etc

I don't see how...at least he's no threat to my process....the wording is over the top

343 The Left  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:37:08pm

re: #253 WindUpBird

No, what I mean is, standing behind what you say has nothing to do with being motivated to keep your identity private, that's all.

What I mean is, you can 100% stand behind what you say, (as of course I believe you do) and think you SHOULD be public because that's ideally the way it shoudl be, but yet decide for tangible reasons not to let people in on where you live and what your real name is. There are bloggers in tech who had to quit blogging because they were harrassed by people so much. it's really something.

I'm honestly sorta on your side, I didn't think it was a problem, until I heard about people like DF getting death threats. I'm on a blog to have fun and talk politics, and if I'm gonna expose myself to death threats for the privilege, I'm going to keep my personal stuff secret!

Exactly so. There isn't anything I've ever written anywhere that I wouldn't say under my own name. But I don't need the haters and trollers harassing me for daring to be female and a lib on the internets.

And there's a lot of very ugly stuff out there directed specifically at women on the internet, in tech and other areas, as you know. Kathy Sierra comes to mind.

Anyone who believes that his opinions are somehow more honest or valid than mine, or that he is somehow 'braver' than I, because he uses his name to post and not a nic, can cram those ideas right up his ass.

344 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:37:15pm

re: #314 Spare O'Lake

Interesting, I never knew that about you.
Is this perhaps why your limericks are so crappy?

Non sequitur, much?

And my limericks are not crappy, they're excellent. As are my other ditties. As you know, to your personal butthurt.

O, Sparrowlake tho't
He could toss pot for pot
With the likes of Sir Jim and his Weasel.

Then along came a man
With a mean, salty rann
And the tosser got pulled by his peezle.

Copyright 2010 Cato the Skald

Do let me know if you'd like a repeat performance, or several.

345 darthstar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:37:16pm

re: #339 Killgore Trout

Media Matters' Eric Burns says Beck is "a serious threat to our democratic process" (video)
Nothing to see here, move along. Hurt feelings...seethe...etc

Beck is no more a threat to our democratic process than Osama bin Laden is...unless we let him. And that's the point people need to remember. Beck is one person. One voice. And one crazy fucking voice at that. He should be marginalized and shunned, and then he'll become another Ann Coulter. Nothing of consequence.

346 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:38:17pm

Dem Rep. Snyder Threatened With Assassination


Add Rep. Vic Snyder (D-AR) to the growing list of lawmakers saying they've received death threats in the wake of health care reform becoming law.

The Associated Press reports that Snyder was told about a letter by the Capitol Police on Tuesday saying he's a target for assassination. The police intercepted the letter.

Snyder read from a copy of the original saying: "It is apparent that it will take a few assassinations to stop Obamacare. Militia central has selected you for assassination. If we cannot stalk and find you in Washington, D.C., we will get you in Little Rock."


/Of course this is one of those non-violent right wing assassination threats which we all know are harmless and patriotic but don't represent all Republicans who have very sensitive feelings which must not be hurt.

347 Racer X  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:38:48pm
348 bratwurst  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:39:12pm

re: #346 Killgore Trout

Show me the body already, Killgore.
/

349 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:39:55pm

re: #345 darthstar


Beck is no more a threat to our democratic process than Osama bin Laden is...unless we let him.


The wingnuts have actually been far more destructive to our democracy. Last summer politicians had to cancel town hall meetings over death threats. The RoP never accomplished that. Pretty impressive when you think about it.

350 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:40:21pm

re: #348 bratwurst

Show me the body already, Killgore.
/

Best defense evah!

351 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:41:45pm

re: #347 Racer X

Lady Gaga - Telephone (CHATROULETTE VERSION)


[Video]. . .so . . . wrong

My small children have never seen her. But they've heard of her, and are asking me about her. Squirm Papa, squirm...

352 darthstar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:42:48pm

re: #346 Killgore Trout

Dem Rep. Snyder Threatened With Assassination

/Of course this is one of those non-violent right wing assassination threats which we all know are harmless and patriotic but don't represent all Republicans who have very sensitive feelings which must not be hurt.

This is, as Sarah Barracougar says, is just 'ginned up' nothing...of course, use the word 'retarded' (not in reference to her even) and it's a full on assault on her family and fodder for three weeks' television drama.

353 Racer X  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:44:10pm
354 reine.de.tout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:45:58pm

Our very own JAUNTE has completed the artwork for the cover of Volume 2 of the cookbook.

Check it out.

355 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:46:03pm

re: #352 darthstar

I wonder who taught her the phrase "ginned up". Not an expression I normally associate with Alaska. It's very Brit, in fact.

Bet you a bottle of Bombay Sapphire she learned it at a ginned-up meeting of the "minds" with several ginned-up GOP top operative at a ginned-up three-martini lunch.

356 austin_blue  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:47:13pm

Evening folks!

An absolutely gorgeous day in Austin.

That OSU/UT game looks like it's pretty good. Unfortunately, I'm stuck watching Baylor rip St. Mary's a new asshole. 54-21. Geez. The Babist's are kicking Papist booty.

357 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:47:14pm
358 darthstar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:47:21pm

re: #353 Racer X

7x13=28


[Video]

Awesome.

359 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:47:47pm

re: #339 Killgore Trout

Media Matters' Eric Burns says Beck is "a serious threat to our democratic process" (video)
Nothing to see here, move along. Hurt feelings...seethe...etc

The crazies don't like the crazies, who knew.

360 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:47:49pm

re: #353 Racer X

And that, my friends, is how Glen Beck's blackboard works.

361 Digital Display  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:48:32pm

re: #354 reine.de.tout

Our very own JAUNTE has completed the artwork for the cover of Volume 2 of the cookbook.

Check it out.

Sweet..He rocks!

362 reine.de.tout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:49:20pm

re: #361 HoosierHoops

Sweet..He rocks!

He sure does!
We had a drop-out from the project, so he has done all the heavy lifting on this one. Many many thanks.

363 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:49:32pm

re: #354 reine.de.tout

Our very own JAUNTE has completed the artwork for the cover of Volume 2 of the cookbook.

Check it out.

oh man!...very cool! very Cool!

364 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:49:49pm

re: #301 Cato the Elder

.......my beloved companion and medical service dog, Haku.

What kind of dog?

365 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:49:53pm

re: #354 reine.de.tout

Our very own JAUNTE has completed the artwork for the cover of Volume 2 of the cookbook.

Check it out.

BRAVO!

366 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:50:24pm

re: #354 reine.de.tout

Our very own JAUNTE has completed the artwork for the cover of Volume 2 of the cookbook.

Check it out.

Wait... is that supposed to look like a hairy buttcrack roasting on the fire or am I seeing things?

367 webevintage  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:50:46pm

re: #346 Killgore Trout

Dem Rep. Snyder Threatened With Assassination

Lovely.
Vic is a fairly stand up guy with 4 small children.
Maybe it was an angry Doctor's wife:
[Link: www.arktimes.com...]

368 pingjockey  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:51:06pm

re: #356 austin_blue

I've got Tenn/OU out here in the northwest. I was hoping St. Marys would at least show up. My 2 teams, Gonzaga and UW are done.

369 reine.de.tout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:51:10pm

re: #366 JasonA

Wait... is that supposed to look like a hairy buttcrack roasting on the fire or am I seeing things?

It is indeed gamey troll buttocks.

370 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:51:19pm

re: #366 JasonA

LOL! So, that was you?

371 pingjockey  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:52:17pm

re: #354 reine.de.tout
That's just tubular man.

372 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:52:23pm

re: #369 reine.de.tout

It is indeed gamey troll buttocks.

Then Jaunte has accomplished what he set out to do. I almost thought my eyesight was going from bad to badder.

373 Racer X  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:52:27pm

re: #369 reine.de.tout

It is indeed gamey troll buttocks.

I aint eatin' any of that.

374 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:52:30pm

re: #370 Floral Giraffe

Oops, misread your comment.
JasonA is not a troll, roasted or otherwise.

375 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:52:31pm

re: #354 reine.de.tout

Our very own JAUNTE has completed the artwork for the cover of Volume 2 of the cookbook.

Check it out.

Nice!

376 KingKenrod  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:52:44pm

re: #339 Killgore Trout

Media Matters' Eric Burns says Beck is "a serious threat to our democratic process" (video)
Nothing to see here, move along. Hurt feelings...seethe...etc

If someone takes out Glenn Beck, I'm blaming Eric Burns! And you, KT!

377 austin_blue  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:53:13pm

re: #354 reine.de.tout

Our very own JAUNTE has completed the artwork for the cover of Volume 2 of the cookbook.

Check it out.

I think he captured my devil-may-care insouciance quite well!

378 pingjockey  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:53:14pm

re: #366 JasonA
Yes. A lizard delicacy...haunch of troll.

379 reine.de.tout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:54:05pm

re: #373 Racer X

I aint eatin' any of that.

That's why you need to buy the cookbook once it's complete.
You'll be able to pick and choose.

I will say this - many of the recipes were donated by now-banned folks.

However, the recipes themselves are very good, a better selection IMO than what is in Volume 1, though Volume 1 is a classic and a must-have itself.

380 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:55:10pm

re: #379 reine.de.tout

That's why you need to buy the cookbook once it's complete.
You'll be able to pick and choose.

I will say this - many of the recipes were donated by now-banned folks.

However, the recipes themselves are very good, a better selection IMO than what is in Volume 1, though Volume 1 is a classic and a must-have itself.

Volume one is at my side, now, to read some of the funnies again.
If you don't have it yet, may I suggest you

BUY THE COOKBOOK!

381 pingjockey  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:55:10pm

Tenn up by 5 with 3:50 left.

382 reine.de.tout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:55:58pm

re: #375 Killgore Trout

Nice!

The book will have your gardening section in it.
I'm sure your mom will buy a copy, just for that!
LOL.
Shame you'll be a published author under a weird nickname, eh?

383 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:56:01pm

re: #364 RogueOne

What kind of dog?

A Korean Jindo. This one looks just like him.

384 pingjockey  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:56:05pm

Troll buttocks with a nice chianti and fava beans isn't so bad.

385 reine.de.tout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:56:59pm

re: #383 Cato the Elder

A Korean Jindo. This one looks just like him.

That's a beautiful dog.

It actually looks like a real dog, unlike my dog, which looks like a short fat sausage.

386 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:57:17pm

re: #354 reine.de.tout

Our very own JAUNTE has completed the artwork for the cover of Volume 2 of the cookbook.

Check it out.

Awesome.
:D

387 pingjockey  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:58:03pm

re: #301 Cato the Elder
I just went back upthread. Those asshats threatened your dog? I have nothing that I can say here that wouldn't be deleted.

388 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:58:27pm

re: #383 Cato the Elder

A Korean Jindo. This one looks just like him.

I had one of those amble up to me in a parking lot in Korea and sniff my hand once.

389 reine.de.tout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:58:57pm
390 pingjockey  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 5:59:07pm

Speaking of cooks, the crew just got back from getting dinner and I'm going to see what we've got.

391 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:00:06pm

re: #317 Obdicut

I'd watch it with my dad, during the summers, on some local San Francisco station.

My favorite is the episode where Becker invests in a hotel, and it turns out he only bought the lobby. Jim (and Angel, of course) pull a con to get him his money back, involving drilling for oil in the front lawn of the hotel.

ahahahaha god damn :D

I gotta go back and watch some of these! I wonder if they're on DVD ^_^

392 Digital Display  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:00:13pm

re: #380 Floral Giraffe

Volume one is at my side, now, to read some of the funnies again.
If you don't have it yet, may I suggest you

BUY THE COOKBOOK!

Here is my deep secret..Buy some Lizard cookbooks..During the year you can mail a Lizard Cookbook to your crazy Aunt for her Birthday.. It's the perfect present...You get the phone call.. What is this? I love it!
It's a perfect gift during the year...what? a candle set or a lizard Cookbook?
Think ahead lizards..I can make you a hero if you listen to me...
buy the several cookbooks..You'll thank me later

393 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:00:39pm
394 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:01:12pm

re: #384 pingjockey

Troll buttocks with a nice chianti and fava beans isn't so bad.


Hee!

YOU KNOW WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE WITH YOUR GOOD BAG AND YOUR BAD SHOES

YOU LOOK LIKE A TROLL

I love that movie so much :D

395 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:01:32pm

I missed this:

Charges Reduced Against O'Keefe In Landrieu Case
[Link: tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com...]


Charges have been reduced against activist filmmaker James O'Keefe and the three other men charged in the alleged Landrieu phone tampering case, the Justice Department announced today.

The four men "were charged in a one-count bill of information with entering real property of the United States under false pretenses, a misdemeanor," the DOJ announced in a press release today.

396 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:01:47pm

re: #393 The Sanity Inspector

The Most Badass Alphabet Ever.

Heh.

397 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:02:01pm

re: #354 reine.de.tout

Our very own JAUNTE has completed the artwork for the cover of Volume 2 of the cookbook.

Check it out.

Lovely work! I'd love to art jam with Jaunte sometime :D

398 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:02:16pm

re: #392 HoosierHoops

Here is my deep secret..Buy some Lizard cookbooks..During the year you can mail a Lizard Cookbook to your crazy Aunt for her Birthday.. It's the perfect present...You get the phone call.. What is this? I love it!
It's a perfect gift during the year...what? a candle set or a lizard Cookbook?
Think ahead lizards..I can make you a hero if you listen to me...
buy the several cookbooks..You'll thank me later

You'll need it for the apocalypse! You can't survive Armageddon without it!

399 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:02:30pm

re: #383 Cato the Elder

A Korean Jindo. This one looks just like him.

Beautiful dog, looks like it'd be a good friend!

400 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:02:52pm

re: #339 Killgore Trout

Media Matters' Eric Burns says Beck is "a serious threat to our democratic process" (video)
Nothing to see here, move along. Hurt feelings...seethe...etc

I think Beck is more of a threat to the GOP than the democratic process!

401 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:03:25pm

re: #384 pingjockey

Troll buttocks with a nice chianti and fava beans isn't so bad.

Except if you're taking beta-blockers. Then the fava beans and the chianti can lead to major complications.

I prefer my Roasted Butthurt with mushy peas, mashed potatoes and India Pale Ale.

And they must be carved by an experienced Butthurt Butler to get the full flavour.

402 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:03:45pm

re: #400 WindUpBird

I think Beck is more of a threat to the GOP than the democratic process!

Heh. He's a constant source of bad publicity.

403 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:04:54pm

re: #401 Cato the Elder

Does Reine have the recipe for "mushy peas"?

404 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:04:56pm

re: #388 The Sanity Inspector

I had one of those amble up to me in a parking lot in Korea and sniff my hand once.

He tasted great later that afternoon.

405 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:05:04pm

re: #393 The Sanity Inspector

The Most Badass Alphabet Ever.

I was having fun until I saw Joss Whedon naked. It wasn't the same after that.

406 darthstar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:06:22pm

Watching Palin's speech for McCain...not sure about the leather biker-chick chic she's going for there...but hey, she's in charge of her own wardrobe now, so it's just a matter of time before she shows up on stage in a tube-top and heels.

407 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:06:54pm

re: #403 Floral Giraffe

Does Reine have the recipe for "mushy peas"?

There's drink recipes in there, right?

408 reine.de.tout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:07:13pm

re: #407 WindUpBird

There's drink recipes in there, right?

A few.

409 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:08:18pm

Attention geeks: This Might Be The Best Game Trailer I've Ever Seen
It's been a while since I've been enticed by a game trailer. Looks cool.

410 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:08:19pm

re: #354 reine.de.tout

Our very own JAUNTE has completed the artwork for the cover of Volume 2 of the cookbook.

Check it out.

Cool. Very "Grapes of Wrath". The lizards are in a Hooverville, right?

411 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:08:54pm

re: #406 darthstar

Watching Palin's speech for McCain...not sure about the leather biker-chick chic she's going for there...but hey, she's in charge of her own wardrobe now, so it's just a matter of time before she shows up on stage in a tube-top and heels.

Better her than biden:

Shirtless Biden

412 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:08:58pm

re: #385 reine.de.tout

That's a beautiful dog.

It actually looks like a real dog, unlike my dog, which looks like a short fat sausage.

I like all dogs. I even like the little yappy ones actresses carry around in their shamefully overpriced Louis Vuitton bags.

Haku has literally (in the literal sense) saved my life more times than I can count.

Of course, the yappers over at Deuce have figured out that I'm neither physically impaired, nor blind, nor deaf. So they make jokes about me being a fake handicapped welfare scrounger.

There are medical service dogs these days for everything from epilepsy to trollophobia. I'll continue to leave it to them to speculate about Haku.

413 darthstar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:09:44pm

re: #354 reine.de.tout

Our very own JAUNTE has completed the artwork for the cover of Volume 2 of the cookbook.

Check it out.

Does the blimp in the background say "Ron Paul" on it? Sorry I missed out on submitting a recipe.

414 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:09:55pm

re: #406 darthstar

Watching Palin's speech for McCain...not sure about the leather biker-chick chic she's going for there...but hey, she's in charge of her own wardrobe now, so it's just a matter of time before she shows up on stage in a tube-top and heels.

I sorta hope a couple things:

A) the GOP moderates itself a bit and kicks the paranoid socialist maniac tea party rhetoric to the curb

B) sarah palin, instead of becoming a political titan, becomes a fixture on reality TV, and starts getting increasingly aggressive with her wardrobe, and essentially becomes a far-right-wing diva, leather bustiers, towering mammoth 6" platforms, biker skirts, gauntlets, glitter makeup, the whole bit. But leave the glasses! The glasses work!

415 reine.de.tout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:09:57pm

re: #410 Decatur Deb

Cool. Very "Grapes of Wrath". The lizards are in a Hooverville, right?

From his e-mail (I should have put this when I linked the image).

Huddling together in a hobo camp hard by the towers of the Big City, LGF minions await the impacts of an uncertain economy.
Hungry lizards eagerly anticipate their slice of a traditional roast troll haunch.
Troll stew heats near the open fire (in thoughtfully recycled paint cans which will add a touch of turpentiney zing to the flavor).

416 austin_blue  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:10:18pm

re: #403 Floral Giraffe

Does Reine have the recipe for "mushy peas"?

Gah! Mushy peas! Hate 'em. Whenever SWMBO and I visit her sister in the UK, I am the object of scorn for my distaste of this particular English Delicacy.

417 austin_blue  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:10:52pm

And Tennessee advances.

418 avanti  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:11:23pm

Why do some conservatives keep wanting to amend the constitution they so love ? Here's a proposal for one dealing with health care :

" THE FEDERALISM RESTORATION AMENDMENT
The legislative power of Congress shall not be construed to include mandating, regulating, prohibiting or taxing the private health insurance of any person; nor shall the power of Congress to make all laws which are necessary and proper to regulate commerce among the several states be construed to include the power to mandate, regulate, prohibit or tax any activity that is confined within a single state and subject to the police power thereof, regardless of the activity’s economic effects outside the state, whether it employs instrumentalities therefrom, or whether its regulation or prohibition is part of a comprehensive federal regulatory scheme."

419 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:11:47pm

re: #388 The Sanity Inspector

I had one of those amble up to me in a parking lot in Korea and sniff my hand once.

That was an honor, I hope you know.

re: #399 Floral Giraffe

Beautiful dog, looks like it'd be a good friend!

He is the best friend you could wish for, and if we ever have the pleasure of meeting in person, you will get so much gratuitous love you'll want to move in with us!

420 ryannon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:11:55pm

re: #412 Cato the Elder

I like all dogs. I even like the little yappy ones actresses carry around in their shamefully overpriced Louis Vuitton bags.

Haku has literally (in the literal sense) saved my life more times than I can count.

Of course, the yappers over at Deuce have figured out that I'm neither physically impaired, nor blind, nor deaf. So they make jokes about me being a fake handicapped welfare scrounger.

There are medical service dogs these days for everything from epilepsy to trollophobia. I'll continue to leave it to them to speculate about Haku.

He knows twelve languages and helps you out when you get stuck on a translation?

421 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:11:56pm

re: #417 austin_blue

And Tennessee advances.

FOUL! Crap, oh well.

422 Digital Display  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:12:17pm

re: #417 austin_blue

And Tennessee advances.

What a game!

423 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:12:52pm

re: #404 RogueOne

He tasted great later that afternoon.

Don't make me post the dog restaurant video....

Oh shoot, you made me post it!

424 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:12:58pm

re: #409 Killgore Trout

Attention geeks: This Might Be The Best Game Trailer I've Ever Seen
It's been a while since I've been enticed by a game trailer. Looks cool.

Are you into the Tom Clancy games?

Splinter Cell Conviction is on my OH MAN I WANT list, it's the same Ubisoft dev team that did the Assassin's Creed games (AWESOME) and are also working on the new Thief game (EVEN AWESOMER) they're really the state of the art in stealth game devs right now.

425 reine.de.tout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:13:01pm

re: #413 darthstar

Does the blimp in the background say "Ron Paul" on it? Sorry I missed out on submitting a recipe.

I don't think it does.

Volume 1 can be purchased now, still. at the 'buy it now' link.

Volume 2 for sale soon, I hope!

426 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:13:24pm

re: #422 HoosierHoops

What a game!

Hoosier, before you leave have you tried Skyline or Shapiro's yet?

427 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:13:32pm

re: #405 JasonA

I was having fun until I saw Joss Whedon naked. It wasn't the same after that.

Keep going til you get to Wonder Woman, Wasted. It'll make it up to you.

428 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:13:33pm

re: #420 ryannon

He knows twelve languages and helps you out when you get stuck on a translation?

Canis latrat.

429 Digital Display  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:13:58pm

re: #421 RogueOne

FOUL! Crap, oh well.

Butler killed me.. I picked the Orangeman to win the Championship..
It's my luck an Indiana College killed my bracket....
What a game

430 austin_blue  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:14:34pm

re: #418 avanti

Why do some conservatives keep wanting to amend the constitution they so love ? Here's a proposal for one dealing with health care :

" THE FEDERALISM RESTORATION AMENDMENT
The legislative power of Congress shall not be construed to include mandating, regulating, prohibiting or taxing the private health insurance of any person; nor shall the power of Congress to make all laws which are necessary and proper to regulate commerce among the several states be construed to include the power to mandate, regulate, prohibit or tax any activity that is confined within a single state and subject to the police power thereof, regardless of the activity’s economic effects outside the state, whether it employs instrumentalities therefrom, or whether its regulation or prohibition is part of a comprehensive federal regulatory scheme."

Fine. Then the Feds will withdraw the Medicare and Medicaid matching funds from the States.

Fail. No, Epic Fail.

431 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:14:37pm

OK I just cleaned up after 2 Mastiffs ... any thing from here should be light work.

432 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:15:25pm

re: #429 HoosierHoops

Butler killed me.. I picked the Orangeman to win the Championship..
It's my luck an Indiana College killed my bracket...
What a game

I couldn't even pick the SB winner last year, and that's just 16 teams!

433 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:15:41pm

re: #430 austin_blue

Fine. Then the Feds will withdraw the Medicare and Medicaid matching funds from the States.

Fail. No, Epic Fail.

at the end of the day someone's gotta pay...

434 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:15:53pm

re: #429 HoosierHoops

Butler killed me.. I picked the Orangeman to win the Championship..
It's my luck an Indiana College killed my bracket...
What a game

Butler is a great story, even better with the history of their building. They've been really good for awhile now. Incredible success for such a small school.

435 austin_blue  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:16:04pm

re: #422 HoosierHoops

What a game!

Wish I had seen it. It's now 70-45 for the Babist's.

Yawn.

436 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:16:17pm

re: #429 HoosierHoops

Butler killed me.. I picked the Orangeman to win the Championship..
It's my luck an Indiana College killed my bracket...
What a game

The butler always does it.

437 bratwurst  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:17:02pm

re: #435 austin_blue

Wish I had seen it. It's now 70-45 for the Babist's.

Yawn.

Elite 8 = 25% Big 12

438 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:18:01pm

re: #424 WindUpBird

Are you into the Tom Clancy games?

Splinter Cell Conviction is on my OH MAN I WANT list, it's the same Ubisoft dev team that did the Assassin's Creed games (AWESOME) and are also working on the new Thief game (EVEN AWESOMER) they're really the state of the art in stealth game devs right now.

I've been on a really tight budget the past few years so I stopped buying games. I'm also an old gamer so I've been running down hallways and collecting health packs since before Doom. Not much has changed in gaming since then and although they dress it up it's all pretty much the same thing. I really liked the GTA games although the last one was a little dull. Maybe I've finally outgrown gaming.

439 austin_blue  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:18:04pm

re: #433 brookly red

at the end of the day someone's gotta pay...

We're paying now every time someone goes to the ER because they have no GP because they can't afford insurance. It sucks.

440 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:18:40pm

re: #344 Cato the Elder

Do let me know if you'd like a repeat performance, or several.

Like I said...crappy.
And I see you have lost your sense of humour as well.

441 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:19:19pm

re: #417 austin_blue

And Tennessee advances.

"Hey cousin, want ta come over and make out"?

442 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:20:17pm

re: #436 Cato the Elder

The butler always does it.

That, or the ex-wife!

443 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:20:32pm

It's Wa-Bash you idiot. Not wah-bosh

444 Digital Display  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:20:36pm

re: #426 RogueOne

Hoosier, before you leave have you tried Skyline or Shapiro's yet?

Our company rented suite 32 at the Track every year I was here...
We met up at Shapiro's deli every race day and drove to the race.. I will miss those days so much...This is will my last race forever.. I'll miss the Indy 500..
I'll be back for the Super Bowl in 2012.. I got a connection! Wink

445 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:21:11pm

re: #418 avanti

Why do some conservatives keep wanting to amend the constitution they so love ? Here's a proposal for one dealing with health care :

" THE FEDERALISM RESTORATION AMENDMENT
The legislative power of Congress shall not be construed to include mandating, regulating, prohibiting or taxing the private health insurance of any person; nor shall the power of Congress to make all laws which are necessary and proper to regulate commerce among the several states be construed to include the power to mandate, regulate, prohibit or tax any activity that is confined within a single state and subject to the police power thereof, regardless of the activity’s economic effects outside the state, whether it employs instrumentalities therefrom, or whether its regulation or prohibition is part of a comprehensive federal regulatory scheme."


These are fundraising stunts. All this crap about repealing health care reform (which is impossible unless they get a veto-proof majority) is all about fundraising.

446 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:21:41pm

re: #439 austin_blue

We're paying now every time someone goes to the ER because they have no GP because they can't afford insurance. It sucks.

Shh! That doesn't match the talking points! :D

447 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:21:54pm

re: #439 austin_blue

We're paying now every time someone goes to the ER because they have no GP because they can't afford insurance. It sucks.

don't worry
[Link: www.businessweek.com...]

ATT alone is looking at a 1 Billion dollar hit just for the first quarter... I guess there will be layoffs... the unemployment rate by June should be about 30%... hope and change.

448 webevintage  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:22:47pm

re: #438 Killgore Trout

I've been on a really tight budget the past few years so I stopped buying games.

Gamefly has saved us so much money over the last 3 years.

449 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:23:37pm

re: #444 HoosierHoops

Our company rented suite 32 at the Track every year I was here...
We met up at Shapiro's deli every race day and drove to the race.. I will miss those days so much...This is will my last race forever.. I'll miss the Indy 500..
I'll be back for the Super Bowl in 2012.. I got a connection! Wink

I wasn't sure how long you have been here. There are only 2 regional restaurants people have to try when they're in this part of the country, Skyline and Shapiro's. My wife is returning shortly with skyline chili dogs for the Michigan state, Purdue games.

450 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:23:56pm

re: #448 webevintage

Gamefly has saved us so much money over the last 3 years.

I mainly play games that I know I'll get the most out of. RPGs and 4X.
:)

451 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:24:18pm

re: #438 Killgore Trout

I've been listening to this guy on the radio, might be some things of interest for you at his website...
[Link: www.daveramsey.com...]

452 swamprat  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:24:31pm

re: #418 avanti

Why do some conservatives keep wanting to amend the constitution they so love ? Here's a proposal for one dealing with health care :

" THE FEDERALISM RESTORATION AMENDMENT
The legislative power of Congress shall not be construed to include mandating, regulating, prohibiting or taxing the private health insurance of any person; nor shall the power of Congress to make all laws which are necessary and proper to regulate commerce among the several states be construed to include the power to mandate, regulate, prohibit or tax any activity that is confined within a single state and subject to the police power thereof, regardless of the activity’s economic effects outside the state, whether it employs instrumentalities therefrom, or whether its regulation or prohibition is part of a comprehensive federal regulatory scheme."


Good Lord!
THe STuPid, it burns!
I heard about the fight to rule(find) national healthcare unconstitutional, which is fine, but THIS development is nauseating.
Has this actually been fielded? Please tell me this is bogus!

453 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:25:12pm

re: #438 Killgore Trout

I've been on a really tight budget the past few years so I stopped buying games. I'm also an old gamer so I've been running down hallways and collecting health packs since before Doom. Not much has changed in gaming since then and although they dress it up it's all pretty much the same thing. I really liked the GTA games although the last one was a little dull. Maybe I've finally outgrown gaming.

It's true, not much has changed, the presenttation has gotten better, but the mechanics are still the same.

I'd say the biggest advance in gaming in the last 10 years is A) XBox Live (which is a communication and delivery system for uying games, including idies) and B) the mainstreaming of music/rhythm games like Rock Band and Guitar Hero.

I'd recommend Good Old games [Link: www.gog.com...] if you;'re on a budget, though. As a dude who was gaming on the Apple ][, Atari computers and Commdores, there's a lot of amazing games that ren't the current state of the art but which are superior in terms of core mechanics than a lot of the stuff coming out now. Publishers are risk averse and not as willing to innovate these days :P

455 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:26:15pm

re: #453 WindUpBird

I just bought Arcanum from gog.
:)

456 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:27:01pm

re: #455 Varek Raith

I just bought Arcanum from gog.
:)

Arcanum! I got my copy about a foot away from me on my desk. That'll keep you busy for about three months, that game :D

457 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:27:13pm

re: #452 swamprat

Good Lord!
THe STuPid, it burns!
I heard about the fight to rule(find) national healthcare unconstitutional, which is fine, but THIS development is nauseating.
Has this actually been fielded? Please tell me this is bogus!

I think only 18 or 19 states have filed so far... so yes it's bogus.

458 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:27:54pm

re: #453 WindUpBird

I'd recommend Good Old games [Link: www.gog.com...] if you're on a budget, though. As a dude who was gaming on the Apple ][, Atari computers and Commdores, there's a lot of amazing games that ren't the current state of the art but which are superior in terms of core mechanics than a lot of the stuff coming out now. Publishers are risk averse and not as willing to innovate these days :P

Do the have "Castle"? I cut my gaming teeth on that one back in the Commodore days.

459 austin_blue  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:28:51pm

re: #437 bratwurst

Elite 8 = 25% Big 12

Yeah, well, it's a tough conference. Kansas losing made that bracket a smoking hole for me (I had Kansas and Georgetown there). But I got all four last night and had Baylor tonight with OSU (well done Vols!) advancing. So I've got 5 of 8 so far.

If the Dukies push through, I'll have 6 out of eight. But I had Kansa taking the tile, so I'm pooched.

Schalke is playing Bayer Leverkuesen this weekend. Tough match away. I'll hold a good thought for you.

460 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:30:35pm

Has Lil' Kim nuked Seoul yet?

461 bratwurst  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:30:56pm

re: #459 austin_blue


Schalke is playing Bayer Leverkuesen this weekend. Tough match away. I'll hold a good thought for you.

Cheers! Live at 12:30pm central time on ESPN360 if your cable co. supports that.

462 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:31:23pm

re: #460 MandyManners

Has Lil' Kim nuked Seoul yet?

not yet...

463 swamprat  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:31:28pm

re: #457 brookly red


18 or 19?
thud
head hits table

464 Digital Display  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:31:29pm

re: #449 RogueOne

I wasn't sure how long you have been here. There are only 2 regional restaurants people have to try when they're in this part of the country, Skyline and Shapiro's. My wife is returning shortly with skyline chili dogs for the Michigan state, Purdue games.


I've been here only a few years...We transfer generally every 3 years by contract...My boss emailed me today that I'm going to check out the new site in April to scout the area for a week...Because of recent developments I'm out of here this Summer.. I'll be emailing Charles soon with the new digs and IP.
Charles..Is this not cool? My boss told me one year for a start up then off to Singapore...I'm checking out townhouses in a major College town

465 TheMatrix31  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:31:54pm
466 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:31:57pm

re: #452 swamprat

Good Lord!
THe STuPid, it burns!
I heard about the fight to rule(find) national healthcare unconstitutional, which is fine, but THIS development is nauseating.
Has this actually been fielded? Please tell me this is bogus!

Without constitutional amendments women wouldn't have the right to vote, slavery would be legal, and we'd still have a poll tax.

467 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:32:42pm

re: #463 swamprat

18 or 19?
thud
head hits table

look it's like having a credit card... sooner or later you gotta pay.

468 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:33:06pm

Chili dogs are here, bbl for the Purdue game.

469 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:33:39pm

re: #464 HoosierHoops

Check Craigs List, to avoid the "party" neighborhoods, well, if you want to sleep on weekend evenings.

470 austin_blue  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:33:46pm

re: #457 brookly red

I think only 18 or 19 states have filed so far... so yes it's bogus.

Which States?

Texas has, but given the makeup of the State Gubmint here, that is no surprise. Governor Goodhair is most definitely ginning up for a Presidential run in '12.

Please God, if you are out there, which I have no reason to believe you are, save us all from such idiocy.

471 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:34:30pm

re: #470 austin_blue

Which States?

Texas has, but given the makeup of the State Gubmint here, that is no surprise. Governor Goodhair is most definitely ginning up for a Presidential run in '12.

Please God, if you are out there, which I have no reason to believe you are, save us all from such idiocy.

God said, "No."

472 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:34:39pm

re: #466 RogueOne

Without constitutional amendments women wouldn't have the right to vote, slavery would be legal, and we'd still have a poll tax.

/as apposed to now, where we are all slaves, no ones vote matters & everything is taxed? sheesh.

473 austin_blue  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:34:45pm

re: #461 bratwurst

Cheers! Live at 12:30pm central time on ESPN360 if your cable co. supports that.

No, but there a couple of pubs in town that do. Must perform research...

474 Ericus58  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:35:02pm

Ahhhh... Smithwick's is tastin' mighty good... kinda tastes like another soon

Now let's see....

Dragon Age Origins?
Empire Total War?
Day of Defeat Source?
CIV IV?

.... or just watch the youngest cat while she plays with the drawstring of the blinds?

475 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:35:52pm

re: #470 austin_blue

Which States?

Texas has, but given the makeup of the State Gubmint here, that is no surprise. Governor Goodhair is most definitely ginning up for a Presidential run in '12.

Please God, if you are out there, which I have no reason to believe you are, save us all from such idiocy.

see that is the problem, you gotta believe ;)

476 Racer X  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:36:33pm

re: #465 TheMatrix31

This is so motherfucking insane.

Not the change I was hoping for.

477 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:36:49pm

re: #458 Cato the Elder

Do the have "Castle"? I cut my gaming teeth on that one back in the Commodore days.

No idea, but probably not, they seem to focus on PC games from the last 10 years or so, stuff that's too old to be retail, out of date, but doesn't require emulation.

Mu favorite Commodore games were PSI 5 Trading Company, Impossible Mission, and Autoduel :D

478 austin_blue  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:36:52pm

re: #471 Varek Raith

God said, "No."

Often does, apparently. Beck survived his hemorrhoid surgery.

Now he's a perfect asshole!

479 swamprat  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:37:10pm

re: #466 RogueOne

An amendment specifically targeting a bill passed by our own congress is insane.
But the following misquote would be truer than ever;

"Incongruous. We make our laws incongruous"

480 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:37:24pm

re: #462 brookly red

not yet...

Maybe he'll die before he gets the chance. But, Kim Jong-un just might take right after Dear Pappy.

481 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:37:56pm

There once was a blogger nicked Cato
Whose head was shaped like a potato
His limericks were crappy
And his temper so snappy
That his nose grew red as a tomato.

482 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:38:48pm

re: #465 TheMatrix31

This is so motherfucking insane.

I HOPE THAT EVERYONE WHO REFUSED TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN BECAUSE HE WASN'T CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH IS FUCKING HAPPY NOW.

483 Digital Display  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:38:53pm

re: #469 Floral Giraffe

Check Craigs List, to avoid the "party" neighborhoods, well, if you want to sleep on weekend evenings.

We have a global Realtor Company...And managed moves..
(they send a moving company to pack you and sent you on your way) I'll be packed already...I don't trust those guys...
I'm moving your way soon for a year....

484 TheMatrix31  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:39:32pm

re: #476 Racer X

This is so beyond reckless.

485 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:39:41pm

re: #471 Varek Raith

God said, "No."

GOD SAYS NO

486 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:39:48pm

re: #476 Racer X

Not the change I was hoping for.

Doesn't your unicorn help out by pooping poop of gold?

487 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:40:09pm

re: #458 Cato the Elder

Do the have "Castle"? I cut my gaming teeth on that one back in the Commodore days.

you were an antique when Pong hit the bowling allys

488 TheMatrix31  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:40:15pm

re: #482 MandyManners

"Tell me, what do you think McCain would have done that would change things? What would he have done differently?!"

....is what they would say. Ugh.

489 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:40:22pm

re: #465 TheMatrix31

This is so motherfucking insane.

Not to worry, we'll just tax our way back to solvency.

490 Ericus58  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:40:24pm

re: #481 Spare O'Lake

There once was a blogger nicked Cato
Whose head was shaped like a potato
His limericks were crappy
And his temper so snappy
That his nose grew red as a tomato.

............bwhahahahaha!

It's not good to waste a good Smithwick's by spewing....

491 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:40:45pm

re: #474 Ericus58

Ahhh... Smithwick's is tastin' mighty good... kinda tastes like another soon

Now let's see...

Dragon Age Origins?
Empire Total War?
Day of Defeat Source?
CIV IV?

... or just watch the youngest cat while she plays with the drawstring of the blinds?

I'd go for DoD source, I used to be in a DoD clan :D

492 Racer X  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:41:23pm

re: #484 TheMatrix31

This is so beyond reckless.

I'm not ready to jump off a cliff or take drastic action, but yes, it is a bit reckless.

Unicorns aint cheap ya know.

493 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:41:30pm

re: #480 MandyManners

Maybe he'll die before he gets the chance. But, Kim Jong-un just might take right after Dear Pappy.

I gotta think that NK is just a proxy for China... and China will not jump skippy, they will just wait for us to tax & spend ourselves into oblivion while they use our dollars to buy Africa. We don't really have much more than a generation left.

494 TheMatrix31  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:41:41pm

re: #489 The Sanity Inspector

You could confiscate everything everybody earns and it still wont cover it.

495 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:41:44pm

re: #488 TheMatrix31

"Tell me, what do you think McCain would have done that would change things? What would he have done differently?!"

...is what they would say. Ugh.

And I'd just give them an unbelieving stare.

496 Racer X  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:42:01pm

re: #486 MandyManners

Doesn't your unicorn help out by pooping poop of gold?

Methane-free farts too!

497 TheMatrix31  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:42:11pm

re: #492 Racer X

I'm not ready to jump off a cliff or take drastic action, but yes, it is a bit reckless.

Unicorns aint cheap ya know.

No need to jump off the cliff when the politicians are slowly pushing us off it.

498 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:42:54pm

re: #488 TheMatrix31

"Tell me, what do you think McCain would have done that would change things? What would he have done differently?!"

...is what they would say. Ugh.

Do you think McCain would not have passed a stimulus bill or injected fabulous amounts of money into the banking system to keep it afloat?

it's what they say, because it's true. Obama and McCain would have reacted in a very similar way under these circumstances. because McCain isn't Ron "Stimulus will cause a depression" Paul.

499 Macha  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:43:05pm

re: #431 brookly red

OK I just cleaned up after 2 Mastiffs ... any thing from here should be light work.

That probably, in terms of volume, is more than cleaning up after my sixty pigeons. My condolences.

500 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:43:14pm

re: #489 The Sanity Inspector

Not to worry, we'll just tax our way back to solvency.

ROFLMAO!!!

501 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:43:40pm

I'm somewhat confused... Is the CBO to be trusted or not???

502 avanti  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:43:58pm

re: #447 brookly red

don't worry
[Link: www.businessweek.com...]

ATT alone is looking at a 1 Billion dollar hit just for the first quarter... I guess there will be layoffs... the unemployment rate by June should be about 30%... hope and change.

You do know the story on that "billion" dollar hit do you not ? Corporations will no longer be able to write off tax payer money that subsidizes part of the Medicare payments as a cost. They were double dipping, and the bill corrects that. BTW, the billion dollar write off is a one quarter accounting trick for losing the tax write off that won't even start until 2011 and is less than a penny a share for AT&T.
Saying it will raise the employment rate to 30% is beyond silly.

503 TheMatrix31  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:44:38pm

re: #498 WindUpBird

Maybe McCain would have passed a bullshit, similarly-failed stimulus as well, but I think that's about all he'd do.

504 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:44:40pm

re: #501 Varek Raith

I'm somewhat confused... Is the CBO to be trusted or not???

not by me...not in a million years

505 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:44:51pm

re: #483 HoosierHoops

Buy you & Winston a drink, once you get here!

506 TheMatrix31  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:45:05pm

re: #501 Varek Raith

Let's ask the people who tell me who and what's a good source nowadays....shall we?

507 avanti  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:45:17pm

re: #482 MandyManners

I HOPE THAT EVERYONE WHO REFUSED TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN BECAUSE HE WASN'T CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH IS FUCKING HAPPY NOW.

I'M FUCKING HAPPY

508 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:45:54pm

re: #493 brookly red

I gotta think that NK is just a proxy for China... and China will not jump skippy, they will just wait for us to tax & spend ourselves into oblivion while they use our dollars to buy Africa. We don't really have much more than a generation left.

Courage, Brookly Red.

BTW, look at China's moves in the Balkans, too.

509 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:45:59pm

re: #502 avanti

You do know the story on that "billion" dollar hit do you not ? Corporations will no longer be able to write off tax payer money that subsidizes part of the Medicare payments as a cost. They were double dipping, and the bill corrects that. BTW, the billion dollar write off is a one quarter accounting trick for losing the tax write off that won't even start until 2011 and is less than a penny a share for AT&T.
Saying it will raise the employment rate to 30% is beyond silly.

oh really, and today's high unemployment is caused by what ?

510 Racer X  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:46:02pm

re: #507 avanti

I'M FUCKING HAPPY

OK, that is funny.

511 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:46:06pm

re: #488 TheMatrix31

"Tell me, what do you think McCain would have done that would change things? What would he have done differently?!"

...is what they would say. Ugh.

re: #488 TheMatrix31

"Tell me, what do you think McCain would have done that would change things? What would he have done differently?!"

...is what they would say. Ugh.

Do you think McCain would not have passed a stimulus bill or injected fabulous amounts of money into the banking system to keep it afloat?

it's what they say, because it's true. Obama and McCain would have reacted in a very similar way under these circumstances. because McCain isn't Ron "Stimulus will cause a depression" Paul.

512 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:46:11pm

re: #501 Varek Raith

I'm somewhat confused... Is the CBO to be trusted or not???

Yes they are, however I don't know why people here still believe what the Wash Times and the Cato Institute have to say about anything. There are more reputable news sources which will accurately tell you what was in the CBO report.

513 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:46:20pm

re: #494 TheMatrix31

You could confiscate everything everybody earns and it still wont cover it.

But,.. it would be FAAAIRRR.

514 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:46:40pm

re: #496 Racer X

Methane-free farts too!

And, smelling of petunias!

515 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:47:00pm

re: #442 Floral Giraffe

That, or the ex-wife!

By the way, FG, Jindos are as feisty as they look.

Haku is nearing seven years of age, but any rat that comes inside my tiny urban back yard has no chance of survival. I've disposed of countless corpses, and twice or thrice had the luck to witness the kill. Not a wasted movement, not a backwards look. He is murderous in his hunting instincts.

When I moved (alas! briefly) to Massachusetts in October, he encountered a porcupine who was nesting under the back porch. Most dogs, when they first meet a 'pine, get it in the nose and back off. Haku didn't hesitate or sniff around; he went straight for the throat, no doubt thinking it was an odd-looking rat with funny fur.

He got 150+ quills in his mouth for his trouble. But Porky was seriously wounded, and I had to finish him off with the house .22 rifle.

In Korea, hunting packs of Jindos are known to take down bear. They do the job and then one of them comes back to find the master, whilst the rest guard the kill. Korean hunting rarely involves guns; just intelligent, fearless dogs and a knowledgeable hunter.

They are also used as watchdogs on (South) Korean military bases. An average Jindo is capable of recognizing up to 3,000+ individuals. That's a good-sized base. Anyone who belongs there, not a peep. Someone new shows up and they raise holy hell.

They're also known for extreme loyalty. Jindos have been sold off Jindo Island (that's where they were bred in isolation for centuries, natch) and months later showed up at their old master's house, having swum the final distance between the island and the mainland. There are statues of them on either side of the bridge that was finally built.

516 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:47:07pm

re: #501 Varek Raith

I'm somewhat confused... Is the CBO to be trusted or not???

It's the Congressional Budget Office.

517 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:47:10pm

Here's a shocker....
RNC rejects joint 'civility' statement

Various members of the DNC — including Chairman Tim Kaine, Executive Director Jen O’Malley Dillon and Communications Director Brad Woodhouse — contacted their respective RNC counterparts this week in hopes of getting RNC Chairman Michael Steele to co-sign a document with Kaine that, in part, called for “elected officials of both parties to set an example of the civility we want to see in our citizenry.”

“We also call on all Americans to respect differences of opinion, to refrain from inappropriate forms of intimidation, to reject violence and vandalism, and to scale back rhetoric that might reasonably be misinterpreted by those prone to such behavior,” read the proposed joint statement, which came at the end of a week which saw acts of vandalism and threats of violence directed at members of Congress from both parties, but mostly aimed at Democrats who voted “yes” on the health care bill.

Republicans see the statement as an attempt to force them to either reject the statement — allowing Democrats to say the RNC finds the incidents acceptable — or to sign on to something that the DNC would later wield against them.

518 TheMatrix31  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:47:15pm

re: #507 avanti

Well, I fucking hope so. I'd be pissed if EVERYBODY'S opinion started to sour. Getting us into this fucking mess then backing off once realizing the story the guy sold was abso-fuckin-lute bullshit.

519 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:47:19pm

re: #508 MandyManners

Courage, Brookly Red.

BTW, look at China's moves in the Balkans, too.

time is on their side... and we are feckless and deserve it.

520 Ericus58  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:47:26pm

re: #491 WindUpBird

I'd go for DoD source, I used to be in a DoD clan :D

Sweet. 1stCPB Clan Leader myself.
One of the ways my son and I stayed connected while he lived in another state. Good Times.

521 avanti  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:47:30pm

re: #509 brookly red

oh really, and today's high unemployment is caused by what ?

Bush, but getting better. :)

522 TheMatrix31  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:47:35pm

re: #512 Killgore Trout

lol

523 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:48:00pm

re: #503 TheMatrix31

Maybe McCain would have passed a bullshit, similarly-failed stimulus as well, but I think that's about all he'd do.

He wouldn't have passed health care, true.

And since health care introduces a mandate, thus risk distribution (just like car insurance, the mandate makes it economically feasable to insure a $40,000 car), thus efficiency into the system, his lack of passing health care would have added to the deficit.

524 TheMatrix31  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:48:04pm

re: #521 avanti

You're right. Obama passed the awesome stimulus and unemployment didn't get above 8%. Oh, wait.

525 austin_blue  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:48:12pm

re: #482 MandyManners

I HOPE THAT EVERYONE WHO REFUSED TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN BECAUSE HE WASN'T CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH IS FUCKING HAPPY NOW.

Well, Mandy, this is what happens when you deregulate the banking industry without any sane institutional controls on risk. They created derivatives that were rated AAA by bought rating agencies, sold around the world to unsuspecting people and institutions when they were only worth squat without assuming a constantly expanding property increases, which the triple A ratings "guaranteed".

It's perfectly clear what happened. The only question is, how do we keep it from happening again? Do you trust the Free Market R's to fix the problem or the Regulatory D's?

526 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:48:27pm

the TARP funds were not the same as same Stimulus, which was different from cash for clunkers, separate from the feds buying GM and unlike the HCR redistribution plan....keep it straight

527 ryannon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:48:30pm

re: #499 Macha

That probably, in terms of volume, is more than cleaning up after my sixty pigeons. My condolences.

You keep pigeons?

528 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:48:47pm

re: #507 avanti

I'M FUCKING HAPPY

WELL, MAYBE I OUGHT' GET BUSY FUCKING.

529 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:48:48pm

re: #507 avanti

I'M FUCKING HAPPY

I'm fucking overjoyed.

Then again, I'm not a conservative :D

530 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:48:51pm

re: #515 Cato the Elder

Makes me kinda want one. Except, I don't need another thing to care for. I do enjoy your descriptions of your dog. Thanks for them!

531 Digital Display  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:49:08pm

re: #505 Floral Giraffe

Buy you & Winston a drink, once you get here!

Winston doesn't drink...But it would be our pleasure to buy you dinner in LA..
Wait till you meet my beautiful Nikki.. We are going to hang in San Diego for a week this summer....
I miss California my friend...I'm jacked up..This is great

532 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:49:15pm

re: #509 brookly red

oh really, and today's high unemployment is caused by what ?

EEEBILLL KORPORASHUNS!!!

533 avanti  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:49:29pm

re: #518 TheMatrix31

Well, I fucking hope so. I'd be pissed if EVERYBODY'S opinion started to sour. Getting us into this fucking mess then backing off once realizing the story the guy sold was abso-fuckin-lute bullshit.

Look how happy the MSM is:

link.

OK, even I would call that a puff piece.

534 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:49:34pm

re: #520 Ericus58

Sweet. 1stCPB Clan Leader myself.
One of the ways my son and I stayed connected while he lived in another state. Good Times.

I used to be in HBMS way back when. Stopped having the time to do clan stuff, started wanting to play more solo RPGs and things.

535 KingKenrod  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:49:40pm

re: #502 avanti

You do know the story on that "billion" dollar hit do you not ? Corporations will no longer be able to write off tax payer money that subsidizes part of the Medicare payments as a cost. They were double dipping, and the bill corrects that. BTW, the billion dollar write off is a one quarter accounting trick for losing the tax write off that won't even start until 2011 and is less than a penny a share for AT&T.
Saying it will raise the employment rate to 30% is beyond silly.

You're absolutely right. I was horrified when I read about Caterpillar, Deere, AT&T etc. taking such big charges...then I realized it was all whining about these companies losing their corporate welfare.

But that doesn't mean it isn't a real problem...let's face it, these companies are eventually going to start dumping these costs on the taxpayer now that they have an avenue to do it. That's exactly what Congress wants. And once again the over-promises of the past are going to come back and haunt us.

536 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:49:59pm

re: #528 MandyManners

Well, it might make you happy!

537 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:50:05pm

re: #521 avanti

Bush, but getting better. :)

tell that to SFZ, tell that to any one who will listen. Watch to jobs die and keep talking BS.

538 Racer X  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:50:31pm

re: #525 austin_blue

Well, Mandy, this is what happens when you deregulate the banking industry without any sane institutional controls on risk. They created derivatives that were rated AAA by bought rating agencies, sold around the world to unsuspecting people and institutions when they were only worth squat without assuming a constantly expanding property increases, which the triple A ratings "guaranteed".

It's perfectly clear what happened. The only question is, how do we keep it from happening again? Do you trust the Free Market R's to fix the problem or the Regulatory D's?

Chris Dodd.
Barney Frank.

539 Racer X  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:50:53pm

re: #528 MandyManners

WELL, MAYBE I OUGHT' GET BUSY FUCKING.

*perks up*

540 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:50:53pm

re: #509 brookly red

oh really, and today's high unemployment is caused by what ?

I'm curious what you think it's caused by. Links to specifics would be nice. :)

Not to interrupt the partisan dance club here that Mandy's DJing or anything...

541 TheMatrix31  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:51:06pm

re: #538 Racer X

No dude. It was Bush. Alllllll Bush.

And evil banks, and stuff.

542 SteveC  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:51:22pm

re: #501 Varek Raith

I'm somewhat confused... Is the CBO to be trusted or not???

Yes.
No.
Maybe.

The CBO is non-partisan and they do a great job in figuring up the monetary impact of proposed legislation. But they are bound (by law) to make the same assumptions that the bill makes, and only those assumptions. So if you manipulate the numbers in the bill, CBO is going to give you the result that you desire.

For example, the healthcare bill keeps costs down by assuming that Congress will make cuts to Medicare, and CBO reflects that. In reality, Congress doesn't make cuts like that, and in the few instances they do, they don't make cuts as steep as what is outlined in the bill.

543 austin_blue  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:51:24pm

re: #502 avanti

You do know the story on that "billion" dollar hit do you not ? Corporations will no longer be able to write off tax payer money that subsidizes part of the Medicare payments as a cost. They were double dipping, and the bill corrects that. BTW, the billion dollar write off is a one quarter accounting trick for losing the tax write off that won't even start until 2011 and is less than a penny a share for AT&T.
Saying it will raise the employment rate to 30% is beyond silly.

Ah, there ya go bein' all logical an' shit.

544 Lateralis  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:51:40pm

re: #525 austin_blue

Well, Mandy, this is what happens when you deregulate the banking industry without any sane institutional controls on risk. They created derivatives that were rated AAA by bought rating agencies, sold around the world to unsuspecting people and institutions when they were only worth squat without assuming a constantly expanding property increases, which the triple A ratings "guaranteed".

It's perfectly clear what happened. The only question is, how do we keep it from happening again? Do you trust the Free Market R's to fix the problem or the Regulatory D's?

It is also what happens when the government gets involved and gives home loans to people who shoulgn't get them.

545 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:52:06pm

re: #538 Racer X

Chris Dodd.
Barney Frank.

Enron.
Qwest.

Wheee!

546 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:52:15pm

(Reposted from early this morning.)

If it could be done here, Holder would be leading the pack.

Antoine Zacharias is facing criminal charges despite the £90 million pay and pension deal being approved by his company’s directors.

He is accused of misusing funds by accepting the money to run Vinci, the world’s biggest construction company.

The sum was set by a remuneration committee chaired by Quentin Davies, Britain’s junior Defence Minister.

Mr Zacharias, 71, is the first French industry captain to face criminal charges over earnings and faces up to five years in prison and a fine of £336,000.

French bosses are anxiously awaiting the outcome of the two-day trial at the court in Nanterre outside Paris, as a guilty verdict could lead to a wave of prosecutions in France over executive pay.

France is notoriously mistrustful of its patrons, and the country was hit by a wave of “boss-nappings” last year in the wake of the financial crisis.

Under French law, company bosses can be prosecuted for misusing funds. However, this is the first time a case has been brought against someone who appeared to have acted within company rules on pay.

Hailed as France’s boss of the decade by the Harvard Business Review, Mr Zacharias transformed Vinci into a construction powerhouse, raising profits by more than 300 per cent and turnover by 81 per cent in six years.

But in 2006 he was ousted by his number two, and successor, who accused him of corporate greed.

Xavier Huillard sent administrators a letter in which he listed his “excesses”, such as exorbitant bonuses and the allegedly lavish renovation of the chairman’s luxury town house. He is also an obsessive collector of Hermes jackets.

SNIP

547 avanti  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:52:16pm

re: #526 albusteve

the TARP funds were not the same as same Stimulus, which was different from cash for clunkers, separate from the feds buying GM and unlike the HCR redistribution plan...keep it straight

BTW, GM announced today that they are paying back 3 billion and intend to pay it all back before going public again. If the good news keeps coming, the Armageddon talk will look silly.

548 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:52:22pm

re: #531 HoosierHoops

You want the insider tips to avoiding traffic, yet?
You set your radio buttons #1 and #2 to AM 1070 and 980.
1070 does traffic on the 5's and 980, traffic on the 1's. Or maybe it's the other way around, I forget. ANYWAY, if there's a bad wreck, they'll also tell you how to avoid it.

You can always blame the traffic for being late.
*wink*

549 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:52:31pm

re: #540 windupbird

I'm curious what you think it's caused by. Links to specifics would be nice. :)

Not to interrupt the partisan dance club here that Mandy's DJing or anything...

don't be stupid....check the archives for a partisan post count

550 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:52:58pm

re: #540 windupbird

I'm curious what you think it's caused by. Links to specifics would be nice. :)

Not to interrupt the partisan dance club here that Mandy's DJing or anything...

real simple, supply & demand... there is no demand for workers so there are no jobs... no links needed.

551 swamprat  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:53:04pm

re: #532 MandyManners

I blame Bush.

552 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:53:21pm

re: #481 Spare O'Lake

There once was a blogger nicked Cato
Whose head was shaped like a potato
His limericks were crappy
And his temper so snappy
That his nose grew red as a tomato.

Alas, your scansion is way off.

There once was a blogger nicked Cato
Whose head was shaped like a looked like a potato
His limericks ditties were crappy
And his temper so ["so", may I inform you, is a fill-in syllable that all self-respecting limericists avoid] snappy
That his nose grew red as a [one beat too many] tomato.

I could teach you to do better, were you willing to learn.

But I doubt you could afford my rates.

553 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:53:22pm

re: #519 brookly red

time is on their side... and we are feckless and deserve it.

Freedom is on our side.

554 ryannon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:53:52pm

re: #546 MandyManners

(Reposted from early this morning.)

If it could be done here, Holder would be leading the pack.

Antoine Zacharias is facing criminal charges despite the £90 million pay and pension deal being approved by his company’s directors.


Charges were dismissed today.

SNIP

555 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:53:52pm

re: #482 MandyManners

I HOPE THAT EVERYONE WHO REFUSED TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN BECAUSE HE WASN'T CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH IS FUCKING HAPPY NOW.

My, how you do repeat yourself.

Hello to Rose!

556 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:53:54pm

YAY! Internet is back up. God, I'm such an addict.

re: #242 EmmmieG

I'm greedy. I want a whole house full of secret passages and hidden caches of cool stuff. I wanna have to solve riddles and find keys and ancient artifacts. I want mysteries.

Welcome to Zork.
You are in an open field west of a big white house with a boarded
front door.
There is a small mailbox here.

Although, actually, they don't make amusement parks ride like this. They should.

Oh, but they do. Or rather, did.
[Link: www.dafe.org...]

557 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:54:00pm

re: #541 TheMatrix31

No dude. It was Bush. Alll Bush.

And evil banks, and stuff.

You saw how Ausador and I handed you your ass in a three course meal on that thread when you said that ludicrous thing about FNMA being responsible for the housing crash, right?

I'm sure you're a nice dude apart from all the ARGH PARTISAN, but I have seen absolutely no evidence that you have any interest in learning about economics. it's just whatever you hear as a talking point, you just repeat it over and over and over and over...

There's a reason I don't regularly opine about foreign policy. it's because I don't know a whole lot about it!

558 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:54:04pm

re: #525 austin_blue

Well, Mandy, this is what happens when you deregulate the banking industry without any sane institutional controls on risk. They created derivatives that were rated AAA by bought rating agencies, sold around the world to unsuspecting people and institutions when they were only worth squat without assuming a constantly expanding property increases, which the triple A ratings "guaranteed".

It's perfectly clear what happened. The only question is, how do we keep it from happening again? Do you trust the Free Market R's to fix the problem or the Regulatory D's?

Is that a trick question?

559 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:54:18pm

re: #553 MandyManners

Freedom is on our side.

was on our side...

560 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:54:37pm

re: #552 Cato the Elder

'Spensive bastard, aren't you?

561 austin_blue  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:54:38pm

re: #538 Racer X

Chris Dodd.
Barney Frank.

Booga Booga! Boogeymen! Respond to the question in #525 or sit it out.

562 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:54:46pm

THE DOOMERS ARE HERE11!11!!1

563 Racer X  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:54:49pm

re: #545 Varek Raith

Heh.

Republicans = Fail
Democrats = Fail

564 TheMatrix31  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:54:56pm

re: #557 windupbird

I'm being sarcastic, jerk.

565 avanti  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:55:04pm

re: #535 KingKenrod

You're absolutely right. I was horrified when I read about Caterpillar, Deere, AT&T etc. taking such big charges...then I realized it was all whining about these companies losing their corporate welfare.

But that doesn't mean it isn't a real problem...let's face it, these companies are eventually going to start dumping these costs on the taxpayer now that they have an avenue to do it. That's exactly what Congress wants. And once again the over-promises of the past are going to come back and haunt us.

No question they were getting corporate welfare, and will pass on the costs of losing it to the stock holders, but I still feel they should not receive a tax write off for getting tax payer money.

566 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:55:11pm

re: #563 Racer X

Heh.

Republicans = Fail
Democrats = Fail

YES!

WHEEE!!!!
XD

567 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:55:28pm

re: #536 Floral Giraffe

Well, it might make you happy!

Hell, it's been more than 10 years so, who knows?!

568 SteveC  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:55:31pm

Is Jesus making you overeat?

Well, in fairness, Jesus' twelve Apostles should also share in the blame.

An incredibly quirky and yet fascinating study was just published in the International Journal of Obesity which investigated the size of the food and plates that have been depicted in paintings of Jesus' Last Supper over the last 1000 years.

569 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:55:31pm

re: #552 Cato the Elder

I could teach you to do better, were you willing to learn.

But I doubt you could afford my rates.

no one can... so I guess we will outsource you wisdom to China. have a nice day.

570 TheMatrix31  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:55:57pm
Obama's 2nd Transportation Security Administration pick Robert Harding withdraws nomination - AP

LOL.

571 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:55:59pm

re: #539 Racer X

*perks up*

Simmah' down now.

572 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:56:03pm

re: #547 avanti

BTW, GM announced today that they are paying back 3 billion and intend to pay it all back before going public again. If the good news keeps coming, the Armageddon talk will look silly.

you'd believe anything that fits your paradigm....the UAW and GM pales next to whats coming when the states collapse from unfunded union mandates....you and your liberal buddies are betting that the feds, the very same morons that got us into this mess are gonna get us out of it...and not with private money, but via taxation....no comprende

573 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:56:04pm

re: #567 MandyManners

Worth a try, if you can get your mitts on a boy toy!

574 TheMatrix31  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:56:13pm

re: #569 brookly red

Hope and change.

575 Digital Display  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:56:14pm

re: #548 Floral Giraffe

You want the insider tips to avoiding traffic, yet?
You set your radio buttons #1 and #2 to AM 1070 and 980.
1070 does traffic on the 5's and 980, traffic on the 1's. Or maybe it's the other way around, I forget. ANYWAY, if there's a bad wreck, they'll also tell you how to avoid it.

You can always blame the traffic for being late.
*wink*

I hate I-5 up to LA on the Weekends from SD..If Obama wanted to really solve problems..He'd tackle that shit....Infrastructure Mr. President..
*wink*

576 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:56:17pm

Go Purdue!

577 Racer X  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:56:57pm

re: #561 austin_blue

Booga Booga! Boogeymen! Respond to the question in #525 or sit it out.

R's.

The D' were in charge of the house and senate finance committee's and look what we got.

578 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:57:02pm

re: #575 HoosierHoops

And the backup, when Checkpoint Charlie is open!

579 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:57:07pm

re: #547 avanti

BTW, GM announced today that they are paying back 3 billion and intend to pay it all back before going public again. If the good news keeps coming, the Armageddon talk will look silly.

a few months ago they wanted even more money....google it

580 avanti  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:57:19pm

re: #543 austin_blue

Ah, there ya go bein' all logical an' shit.

Trust me, there is some real "fuzzy" math in the health care bill, but killing the double dip for corporations is not the one to worry about.

581 ryannon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:57:25pm

re: #563 Racer X

Heh.

Republicans = Fail
Democrats = Fail

But Rapture gonna bite you in da ass.

582 Racer X  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:57:34pm

re: #573 Floral Giraffe

Worth a try, if you can get your mitts on a boy toy!

*perks up again*

583 SteveC  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:57:38pm

re: #556 negativ

YAY! Internet is back up. God, I'm such an addict.

"My name is negativ, and I'm an Internetaholic."

"Hello, negativ."

584 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:57:50pm

re: #581 ryannon

But Rapture gonna bite you in da ass.

...Why? I'll get free stuff!
;)

585 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:58:14pm

re: #551 swamprat

I blame Bush.

Take a number and get in line!

586 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:59:26pm

re: #544 Lateralis

It is also what happens when the government gets involved and gives home loans to people who shoulgn't get them.

So you're also ignoring the deregulation which meant that the brokers selling the loans were not attached to the banks holding the paper, thus creating a moral hazard where the broker can sell with impunity and ignore the risks of a NINJA loan (look it up, jack) because they're not accountable for the loan going under? You're ignoring the deregulation which allowed "innovative" loans full of weird adjustible rate mumbojumbo to enter the marketplace? Loans that only really make sense if the value of your house steadily climbs at a rapid rate?


You guys are hilarious. :D The mindless robotic talking point repetition, it's breathtaking to behold. You guys will follow a talking point off a cliff, into the briny deep, and you'll sink beneath the waves, cradling it to your breast as if it were your own son.

Knowledge? That shit's hard. and has gre areas. And factors. And it requires effort to uncover.

Just let Rush tell it to you. Just let Hannity give you your opinions. Just let some blog tell you what you need to know, instead of looking it up and trying to understand it. Jesus Fucking Krypton.

587 avanti  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:59:28pm

re: #579 albusteve

a few months ago they wanted even more money...google it

Yep, than they started selling cars again, funny how that works.

588 KingKenrod  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:59:33pm

re: #546 MandyManners

(Reposted from early this morning.)

If it could be done here, Holder would be leading the pack.

Antoine Zacharias is facing criminal charges despite the £90 million pay and pension deal being approved by his company’s directors.

SNIP

Not just Holder, the big man himself. Seems like people have forgotten how Obama tried to gin up anger over Wall Street bonuses. Some quotes:

"I don't want to quell anger - I think people are right to be angry. I am angry."

"People are rightly outraged over these particular bonuses, but just as outrageous is the culture that these bonuses are a symbol of, that has existed far too long."

589 Racer X  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:59:34pm

Actually I am gonna sit this one out.

I grow weary of 'blame the left! Blame the right!'

I got no answer. Reality is they both suck big.

590 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:59:36pm

anybody here live in a state that can pay it's bills?

591 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:59:45pm

re: #554 ryannon

Link?

592 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:00:02pm

re: #558 MandyManners

Is that a trick question?

Do you believe our food would be more or less safe without the FDA?

593 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:00:29pm

re: #559 brookly red

was on our side...

It's a half-full glass.

594 The Shadow Do  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:00:45pm

re: #576 RogueOne

Go Purdue!

Purdue! Great engineering school. Great basketball school.

Ugliest bevy of coeds in America.

595 Macha  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:00:49pm

re: #527 ryannon

You keep pigeons?

I do. I have rescues and fancies. Don't get me started about pigeons. The pest control industry has demonized them to the point that laws have been passed outlawing pigeon keeping in many cities. Fifty years ago there was someone with a loft on every other block. Now people see them as pests carrying disease, which is ridiculous. I wonder how many people here know anyone who has gotten sick from contact with pigeons. They are beautiful loving birds that make marvelous pets.

596 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:01:17pm

re: #592 windupbird

Do you believe our food would be more or less safe without the FDA?

don't worry you will eat what you are given.

597 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:01:18pm

re: #590 brookly red

anybody here live in a state that can pay it's bills?

Yeah, and you wouldn't like the pizza.

598 TheMatrix31  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:01:26pm

re: #586 windupbird


Just let Rush tell it to you. Just let Hannity give you your opinions. Just let some blog tell you what you need to know, instead of looking it up and trying to understand it. Jesus Fucking Krypton.

Some of the awesome users of this blog told me what I needed to know.

Some of the very people you interact with now that you're here.

Get off your fuckin' high horse, dude. Seriously.

599 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:01:30pm

re: #589 Racer X

Actually I am gonna sit this one out.

I grow weary of 'blame the left! Blame the right!'

I got no answer. Reality is they both suck big.

I don't know shit about economics. So, yeah, I'm out.
:)

600 SteveC  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:01:36pm

re: #590 brookly red

anybody here live in a state that can pay it's bills?

They're paying their bills by taking more and more of my bills!

601 TheMatrix31  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:02:12pm

re: #590 brookly red

don't look at me, I live in a hellhole.

602 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:02:13pm

What's the sound of a full gallon of milk as it hits a wooden floor?

bbiab

603 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:02:23pm

re: #600 SteveC

They're paying their bills by taking more and more of my bills!

hope & change :)

604 TheMatrix31  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:02:30pm

re: #599 Varek Raith

I wish the government would sit it out also, since they don't know shit either.

605 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:02:38pm

re: #587 avanti

Yep, than they started selling cars again, funny how that works.

Great idea if you're only looking to bump sales for a month. How's that worked out long term?

606 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:02:43pm

re: #602 MandyManners

What's the sound of a full gallon of milk as it hits a wooden floor?

bbiab

A mess. A big mess.

607 Gus  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:02:49pm

Wow, it's pretty upbeat in here.

/

608 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:03:19pm

re: #162 William of Orange

I fear it won't be long before we say farewell to one of our great actors Dennis Hopper.

That's very sad. I have really enjoyed everything I've seen that he's been in. Paris Trout, Blue Velvet, True Romance, Easy Rider... When he was a wee youngster, he played a wannabe Hitler in an episode of The Twilight Zone called "He's Alive".

609 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:03:21pm

re: #607 Gus 802

Wow, it's pretty upbeat in here.

/

Indeed, which is why I'm just snarking about.

610 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:04:37pm

re: #594 The Shadow Do

Purdue! Great engineering school. Great basketball school.

Ugliest bevy of coeds in America.

I guess this is why I can't relate.

Who cares how hot engineering grads are? Are they there to be models for you to look at? Or are they there to be engineers?

611 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:04:54pm

re: #596 brookly red

don't worry you will eat what you are given.

what

612 austin_blue  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:05:23pm

re: #544 Lateralis

It is also what happens when the government gets involved and gives home loans to people who shoulgn't get them.

Umm..no. The "Government" did not give out sub-prime loans. They backed loans issued by publicly owned companies who, without proper regulatory oversight, gave loans to people who couldn't afford them but were "guaranteed" that their equity gains would allow them to refinance and *make money*.

Then larger firms bought the mortgages and repackaged them as derivatives and sold them off as AAA rated bond equivalents.

Don't try to reinvent history.

613 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:05:30pm

re: #607 Gus 802

Wow, it's pretty upbeat in here.

/

More might be happier if they were older. The CBO release said the debt situation was much worse when I was born (WWII). The '50s were pretty cool. We just have to apply some brains and discipline.

614 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:05:53pm

re: #594 The Shadow Do

Purdue! Great engineering school. Great basketball school.

Ugliest bevy of coeds in America.

They kept the football field grass so the cheerleaders can graze.

615 Ericus58  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:06:04pm

re: #608 negativ

That's very sad. I have really enjoyed everything I've seen that he's been in. Paris Trout, Blue Velvet, True Romance, Easy Rider... When he was a wee youngster, he played a wannabe Hitler in an episode of The Twilight Zone called "He's Alive".


[Video]

Candy Colored Clown

616 darthstar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:06:50pm

Bill Maher thanking Teabaggers...and he "quotes" a teabagger saying, "But Bill, why are you thanking me? I marched on Washington with teabags hanging from my founding fathers costume, a gun on my hip, and a sign with President Obama dressed as Hitler." Then Bill says, "Yes, and America saw that and said, 'I think I'll go with the calm black man.'"

617 Gus  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:06:54pm

re: #609 Varek Raith

Indeed, which is why I'm just snarking about.

I've often wondered about what that can do to person's psyche over a period of years. Especially if it's a recurring condition or a daily behavior.

618 Lateralis  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:07:49pm

re: #586 windupbird

So you're also ignoring the deregulation which meant that the brokers selling the loans were not attached to the banks holding the paper, thus creating a moral hazard where the broker can sell with impunity and ignore the risks of a NINJA loan (look it up, jack) because they're not accountable for the loan going under? You're ignoring the deregulation which allowed "innovative" loans full of weird adjustible rate mumbojumbo to enter the marketplace? Loans that only really make sense if the value of your house steadily climbs at a rapid rate?

You guys are hilarious. :D The mindless robotic talking point repetition, it's breathtaking to behold. You guys will follow a talking point off a cliff, into the briny deep, and you'll sink beneath the waves, cradling it to your breast as if it were your own son.

Knowledge? That shit's hard. and has gre areas. And factors. And it requires effort to uncover.

Just let Rush tell it to you. Just let Hannity give you your opinions. Just let some blog tell you what you need to know, instead of looking it up and trying to understand it. Jesus Fucking Krypton.

Not ignoring it at all. Notice I included also in my statement. It would seem that your talking points never include the dumb shit that Congress does to exacerbate these situations. By the way I don't listen to Rush or Hannity.

619 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:07:51pm

re: #590 brookly red

anybody here live in a state that can pay it's bills?

I believe Wyoming and N Dakota are still in the black....that's like a couple million people at best

620 Gus  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:08:05pm

re: #613 Decatur Deb

More might be happier if they were older. The CBO release said the debt situation was much worse when I was born (WWII). The '50s were pretty cool. We just have to apply some brains and discipline.

I'm sure something can be done in the long run. Don't ask me though because I'm far from a fiscal or economic expert.

621 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:08:06pm

re: #598 TheMatrix31

Some of the awesome users of this blog told me what I needed to know.

Some of the very people you interact with now that you're here.

Get off your fuckin' high horse, dude. Seriously.

Maybe instead of trusting people who are politically motivated, you should research it.

I don't trust people on a political blog to give it to me straight, as much as I like them. I follow their links, and then I follow other links, and I read multiple sources, and I try my best to have at least a decent layman's understanding of an issue before I go OH MAN THIS IS THE TRUTH.

Maybe you should do that too. That's my high horse, and I'm staying up here. because that;s where the knowledge is. I listen to real live economists and real estate agents about this housing crisis, and you just accept what blog commenters tell you? Damn.

622 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:08:24pm

re: #616 darthstar

Bill Maher thanking Teabaggers...and he "quotes" a teabagger saying, "But Bill, why are you thanking me? I marched on Washington with teabags hanging from my founding fathers costume, a gun on my hip, and a sign with President Obama dressed as Hitler." Then Bill says, "Yes, and America saw that and said, 'I think I'll go with the calm black man.'"

Yes :D

623 SteveC  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:08:32pm

AT&T says Healthcare reform will cost 1 Billion

Caterpillar expects $100 million charge to healthcare reform

John Deere projects $150 Million Healthcare hit

Now I know you were told there would be no math, but that adds up to 1 BILLION, 250 million dollars from THREE companies.

It really is Hammertime!

624 avanti  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:08:59pm

re: #605 RogueOne

Great idea if you're only looking to bump sales for a month. How's that worked out long term?

Sales up 32% for GM last month to a year ago, CFC long gone, as is that right wing talking point.


"DETROIT – Chevrolet, Buick, GMC and Cadillac dealers in the U.S. reported sales of 138,849, up a combined 32 percent compared to February 2009. These results were driven by the continued strong growth of new GM crossovers and passenger cars. "
GM.

625 ryannon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:09:10pm

re: #590 brookly red

anybody here live in a state that can pay it's bills?

[Link: www.google.com...]

626 austin_blue  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:09:33pm

re: #572 albusteve

you'd believe anything that fits your paradigm...the UAW and GM pales next to whats coming when the states collapse from unfunded union mandates...you and your liberal buddies are betting that the feds, the very same morons that got us into this mess are gonna get us out of it...and not with private money, but via taxation...no comprende

Unfunded Union Mandates.....Hmmmm...

Still seems to me that Right to Work states will still be Right to Work states.

So your comment would be estupido?

627 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:09:38pm

re: #618 Lateralis

Not ignoring it at all. Notice I included also in my statement. It would seem that your talking points never include the dumb shit that Congress does to exacerbate these situations. By the way I don't listen to Rush or Hannity.

Actually, one of the biggest reasons we're in this housing crisis is Bill Clinton.

628 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:09:49pm

re: #619 albusteve

I believe Wyoming and N Dakota are still in the black...that's like a couple million people at best

well good for them... now how about the other 300 million? don't look so good dese it?

629 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:10:26pm

re: #623 SteveC

AT&T says Healthcare reform will cost 1 Billion

Caterpillar expects $100 million charge to healthcare reform

John Deere projects $150 Million Healthcare hit

Now I know you were told there would be no math, but that adds up to 1 BILLION, 250 million dollars from THREE companies.

It really is Hammertime!


I have a bet going with Sand People, $100 says that the unemployment rate doesn't hit 14%.

We'll see!

630 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:10:47pm

re: #624 avanti

Sales up 32% for GM last month to a year ago, CFC long gone, as is that right wing talking point.

"DETROIT – Chevrolet, Buick, GMC and Cadillac dealers in the U.S. reported sales of 138,849, up a combined 32 percent compared to February 2009. These results were driven by the continued strong growth of new GM crossovers and passenger cars. "
GM.

oh good now they can reopen 100 of the 2500 dealers they closed.

631 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:10:57pm

re: #626 austin_blue

Unfunded Union Mandates...Hmmm...

Still seems to me that Right to Work states will still be Right to Work states.

So your comment would be estupido?

sure, of course...the dire straights facing CA, IL and other states is fantasy

632 swamprat  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:11:07pm

re: #623 SteveC

AT&T says Healthcare reform will cost 1 Billion

Caterpillar expects $100 million charge to healthcare reform

John Deere projects $150 Million Healthcare hit

Now I know you were told there would be no math, but that adds up to 1 BILLION, 250 million dollars from THREE companies.

It really is Hammertime!

No. They are lying. Healthcare REFORM will save money. Ask anybody.

633 ryannon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:11:19pm

re: #625 ryannon

Whoops - mixed up replies.re: #591 MandyManners

Link?

[Link: www.google.com...]

634 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:11:25pm

re: #588 KingKenrod

Not just Holder, the big man himself. Seems like people have forgotten how Obama tried to gin up anger over Wall Street bonuses. Some quotes:

"I don't want to quell anger - I think people are right to be angry. I am angry."

"People are rightly outraged over these particular bonuses, but just as outrageous is the culture that these bonuses are a symbol of, that has existed far too long."

Remember the "tours" to Greenwich, Connecticut?

635 TheMatrix31  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:11:43pm

re: #621 windupbird

Regarding the debt/deficits, I'm reading CBO estimates and history to see what happens when ridiculous debts accumulate. What the fuck else do you want me to do?

I listen to real live economists too, we're both awesome! Congratulations to both of us!

I don't "accept" what blog commenters tell me. Frankly, you have no fucking clue on how I verify my shit. Regardless, politics/economics are all one big game anyway. No one's right, no real way to prove one side is right. It's all bullshit.

I need to go back into sports, because this is unnhealthy.

Oh, and in the future, I'd really like to just avoid talking to you. You irritate me to no end, and I probably annoy you to no end also. Just leave it at this. Good day.

636 avanti  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:12:12pm

re: #623 SteveC

AT&T says Healthcare reform will cost 1 Billion

Caterpillar expects $100 million charge to healthcare reform

John Deere projects $150 Million Healthcare hit

Now I know you were told there would be no math, but that adds up to 1 BILLION, 250 million dollars from THREE companies.

It really is Hammertime!

Yea, bad news, the tax payer get that money back from the corporate welfare they were getting by writing off tax money as a cost. BTW, those numbers are a one time write off of many years of accounting. Don't get all your news from the right.

637 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:12:17pm

re: #630 brookly red

oh good now they can reopen 100 of the 2500 dealers they closed.

RECOVERY!
good grief

638 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:12:20pm

re: #629 windupbird

I have a bet going with Sand People, $100 says that the unemployment rate doesn't hit 14%.

We'll see!

I think it's already "really" over 14%, if you count the people without jobs, for longer than the unemployment office does. And, you could add in the "illegals" who are unemployed, too.

639 SteveC  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:12:23pm

re: #629 windupbird

I have a bet going with Sand People, $100 says that the unemployment rate doesn't hit 14%.

We'll see!

Whichever one of you wins that bet might be the richest person in America!

640 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:12:55pm

re: #617 Gus 802

I've often wondered about what that can do to person's psyche over a period of years. Especially if it's a recurring condition or a daily behavior.

Heh, an MRI I had on my brain back when I was 19 changed my whole outlook on things. I was having terrible migraines. Doctor scheduled an MRI. They "found something". For two agonizing weeks I waited. Turns out they found nothing of consequence. Had two more MRIs to be certain. All good. I now approach things from a much lighter, almost comical, point of view.

:D

641 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:13:18pm

re: #632 swamprat

No. They are lying. Healthcare REFORM will save money. Ask anybody.

if you think that will get you an extra ration of bread you are shit out of luck.

642 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:13:35pm

re: #629 windupbird

I have a bet going with Sand People, $100 says that the unemployment rate doesn't hit 14%.

We'll see!

Make sure, you get paid in GOLD!

643 The Shadow Do  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:13:41pm

re: #610 windupbird

I guess this is why I can't relate.

Who cares how hot engineering grads are? Are they there to be models for you to look at? Or are they there to be engineers?

PU coeds should all wear the burkha.

PU coeds are the antiviagra

PU coeds wear combat boots

/yes, I am messing with you

644 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:13:46pm

re: #589 Racer X

Actually I am gonna sit this one out.

I grow weary of 'blame the left! Blame the right!'

I got no answer. Reality is they both suck big.

Really don't mind if you sit this one out.


645 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:13:47pm

re: #636 avanti

Yea, bad news, the tax payer get that money back from the corporate welfare they were getting by writing off tax money as a cost. BTW, those numbers are a one time write off of many years of accounting. Don't get all your news from the right.


explain to me how that works

646 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:13:55pm

re: #564 TheMatrix31

I'm being sarcastic, jerk.

re: #630 brookly red

oh good now they can reopen 100 of the 2500 dealers they closed.


You know GM shrunk their brand lines because they were bloated, right? Why have Buick AND Oldsmobile AND Pontiac AND Saturn all fighting each other for the same dollars? Why have so much badge engineering? They're competing with themselves. And they needed to stop doing that, and that means closing dealerships so it DOESN'T mean closing GM.

647 austin_blue  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:14:09pm

re: #577 Racer X

R's.

The D' were in charge of the house and senate finance committee's and look what we got.

No. They weren't. I call bullshit. It was after '94 when the Contract on America gave the R's a majority.

Don't try to rewrite history.re: #586 windupbird

648 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:14:16pm

re: #590 brookly red

anybody here live in a state that can pay it's bills?

Denial is not a member of the Union.

649 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:14:22pm

re: #639 SteveC

Whichever one of you wins that bet might be the richest person in America!

left in America... the money is making like the jobs and buggin out.

650 TheMatrix31  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:14:24pm

I'm out for the night, later folks.

651 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:14:32pm

re: #642 Floral Giraffe

Make sure, you get paid in GOLD!

NO, SURVIVAL SEEDS. GOLD IS USELESS IN POST APOCOLYPTIA!

652 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:15:00pm

re: #638 Floral Giraffe

I think it's already "really" over 14%, if you count the people without jobs, for longer than the unemployment office does. And, you could add in the "illegals" who are unemployed, too.

I'm talking about this metric: [Link: www.google.com...]
I understand what you're saying but I'm talking about a very specific metric.

653 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:15:11pm

re: #592 windupbird

Do you believe our food would be more or less safe without the FDA?

One more reason why I usually have you on permanent GAZE.

654 darthstar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:15:19pm

re: #641 brookly red

if you think that will get you an extra ration of bread you are shit out of luck.

Fine...when you break a leg, we'll make sure they only give you leeches to help cure you...or maybe a good blood-letting to remove the demons from your body. The rest of us are quite happy to see Americans get health care.

655 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:16:04pm

re: #606 Varek Raith

A mess. A big mess.

No shit!!!

656 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:16:34pm

re: #624 avanti

Sales up 32% for GM last month to a year ago, CFC long gone, as is that right wing talking point.

"DETROIT – Chevrolet, Buick, GMC and Cadillac dealers in the U.S. reported sales of 138,849, up a combined 32 percent compared to February 2009. These results were driven by the continued strong growth of new GM crossovers and passenger cars. "
GM.

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

Take a look at the chart. I don't see where spending 3 billion we didn't have had any effect other than a one month jump.

657 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:16:38pm

re: #654 darthstar

Fine...when you break a leg, we'll make sure they only give you leeches to help cure you...or maybe a good blood-letting to remove the demons from your body. The rest of us are quite happy to see Americans get health care.

talk to me in 6 months...

658 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:16:41pm

re: #655 MandyManners

No shit!!!

Do you have cats? Mine are good at cleanups like that!
:)

659 jaunte  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:16:53pm

re: #654 darthstar

Fine...when you break a leg, we'll make sure they only give you leeches to help cure you...


I think there was a Rule 34 here recently about that.

660 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:17:03pm

re: #587 avanti

Yep, than they started selling cars again, funny how that works.

Note that Republicans were way more about the non-union foreign car companies in the south getting the biz instead of American companies.

661 Gus  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:17:12pm

re: #640 Varek Raith

Heh, an MRI I had on my brain back when I was 19 changed my whole outlook on things. I was having terrible migraines. Doctor scheduled an MRI. They "found something". For two agonizing weeks I waited. Turns out they found nothing of consequence. Had two more MRIs to be certain. All good. I now approach things from a much lighter, almost comical, point of view.

:D

Migraines are awful. I went through about 2 years of that. Didn't affect my vision but it was the worst headache I ever experienced in my life. Thought my head was about to explode. Not sure but I think it was from the stress of working in offices.

662 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:17:16pm

re: #616 darthstar

Bill Maher thanking Teabaggers...and he "quotes" a teabagger saying, "But Bill, why are you thanking me? I marched on Washington with teabags hanging from my founding fathers costume, a gun on my hip, and a sign with President Obama dressed as Hitler." Then Bill says, "Yes, and America saw that and said, 'I think I'll go with the calm black man.'"

I reckon from your "quotes" that you don't believe Maher, either.

663 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:17:57pm

re: #623 SteveC

AT&T says Healthcare reform will cost 1 Billion

Caterpillar expects $100 million charge to healthcare reform

John Deere projects $150 Million Healthcare hit

Now I know you were told there would be no math, but that adds up to 1 BILLION, 250 million dollars from THREE companies.

It really is Hammertime!

EEEBILLL KORPORASHUNS KEEL PEEPEL.

664 brookly red  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:17:57pm

well I have used up my electricity ration... gotta go now.

665 swamprat  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:18:18pm

re: #629 windupbird

I have a bet going with Sand People, $100 says that the unemployment rate doesn't hit 14%.

We'll see!

.

Hope you are correct.
The graph takes a while to load.

666 avanti  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:18:26pm

re: #630 brookly red

oh good now they can reopen 100 of the 2500 dealers they closed.

Why would you want them to roll back to 100 ?
They are reopening 600.


link...

667 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:18:34pm

re: #653 MandyManners

One more reason why I usually have you on permanent GAZE.

Cheers! After your diarrhea about ISLAM IS NOT A RACE, the feeling is mutual :)

668 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:18:56pm

re: #661 Gus 802

Migraines are awful. I went through about 2 years of that. Didn't affect my vision but it was the worst headache I ever experienced in my life. Thought my head was about to explode. Not sure but I think it was from the stress of working in offices.

I had them for about 6 years. Then...nothing.
:shrugs:
I'm just glad they're gone. They really screwed up my plans from about 2001 til about 2007.

669 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:19:11pm

re: #650 TheMatrix31

I'm out for the night, later folks.

Sweet dreams, Matrix!

670 ryannon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:19:26pm

re: #590 brookly red

anybody here live in a state that can pay it's bills?

671 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:19:43pm

re: #658 Varek Raith

Do you have cats? Mine are good at cleanups like that!
:)

One but, he's not into milk.

672 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:19:43pm

re: #666 avanti

Why would you want them to roll back to 100 ?
They are reopening 600.

link...

GM making some of the coolest cars they have ever made, BTW. Cadillac Sportwagon FTW.

673 wee fury  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:19:58pm

re: #668 Varek Raith

I had them for about 6 years. Then...nothing.
:shrugs:
I'm just glad they're gone. They really screwed up my plans from about 2001 til about 2007.

Blame Bush.

674 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:20:10pm

re: #665 swamprat

.

Hope you are correct.
The graph takes a while to load.

I hope I am too!

675 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:20:18pm

re: #664 brookly red

well I have used up my electricity ration... gotta go now.

Take care, brookly!

676 avanti  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:20:51pm

re: #645 albusteve

explain to me how that works

The corporations were writing off the entire cost of Medicare payments even though tax payer were paying part of it. We'll get back billions in taxes that are due from double dipping.

677 TheMatrix31  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:21:01pm

re: #669 MandyManners

Sweet dreams nothing! I'm gonna go live/eat it up with my friends.

678 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:21:15pm

re: #673 wee fury

Blame Bush.

Lol, I blame my acute sense of smell.

679 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:21:50pm

re: #666 avanti

Why would you want them to roll back to 100 ?
They are reopening 600.

link...

So the government run auto company admits it made a pretty substantial error in judgment right out of the gate. "Let's put them in charge of more stuff to see how well they can really screw shit up" just doesn't sound like a good plan to me.

680 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:21:53pm

re: #643 The Shadow Do

PU coeds should all wear the burkha.

PU coeds are the antiviagra

PU coeds wear combat boots

/yes, I am messing with you

Sorry, I just think it's shitty and disrespectful to engineering grad students to think they should all be HOT HOT SEXAY HOT

But then again, I hang out with people who are ugly and smart and creative so what do I know?

681 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:22:00pm

re: #677 TheMatrix31

Sweet dreams nothing! I'm gonna go live/eat it up with my friends.

Be safe, son.

682 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:22:30pm

re: #676 avanti

The corporations were writing off the entire cost of Medicare payments even though tax payer were paying part of it. We'll get back billions in taxes that are due from double dipping.

All those pesky numbers that add up! What do they know? :D

683 The Shadow Do  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:22:50pm

re: #660 windupbird

Note that Republicans were way more about the non-union foreign car companies in the south getting the biz instead of American companies.

Let's see, American companies drowning in their own juices, foreign companies making investments, building plants, hiring people.

What is one to make of all that?

684 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:23:13pm

re: #682 windupbird

All those pesky numbers that add up! What do they know? :D

Weyland-Yutani knows.

685 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:23:14pm

re: #679 RogueOne

So the government run auto company admits it made a pretty substantial error in judgment right out of the gate. "Let's put them in charge of more stuff to see how well they can really screw shit up" just doesn't sound like a good plan to me.

So the government run auto company
So the government run auto company
So the government run auto company
So the government run auto company
So the government run auto company
So the government run auto company
So the government run auto company


You have no idea what you're talking about. GM is not run by the US government.

686 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:23:34pm

re: #680 windupbird

Sorry, I just think it's shitty and disrespectful to engineering grad students to think they should all be HOT HOT SEXAY HOT

But then again, I hang out with people who are ugly and smart and creative so what do I know?

Ugly & smart fare better in the real world than the "hot" do.
"Hot" doesn't last very long. smarts are forever.

687 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:23:48pm

Hullo..how's tricks?

688 darthstar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:24:00pm

re: #646 windupbird

You know GM shrunk their brand lines because they were bloated, right? Why have Buick AND Oldsmobile AND Pontiac AND Saturn all fighting each other for the same dollars? Why have so much badge engineering? They're competing with themselves. And they needed to stop doing that, and that means closing dealerships so it DOESN'T mean closing GM.

GM shrunk their brand because their cars suck. Me, I wish a Ford and a Chevy would still last ten years like they should.

689 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:24:13pm

re: #494 TheMatrix31

You could confiscate everything everybody earns and it still wont cover it.

We'll put all those extra IRS agents to good use, rooting through people's sock drawers and digging up their backyards. They'll cough up, somehow.

690 SteveC  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:24:13pm

re: #683 The Shadow Do

Let's see, American companies drowning in their own juices, foreign companies making investments, building plants, hiring people.

What is one to make of all that?

Them there foreigners got it goin' on! Wonder if they can use another good ol' boy down at the plant....?

691 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:24:41pm

re: #686 Floral Giraffe

Ugly & smart fare better in the real world than the "hot" do.
"Hot" doesn't last very long. smarts are forever.

Sarah Palin being a perfect example..if she wasn't all milfy, she wouldn't have gotten a second glance.

692 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:24:43pm
693 SteveC  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:24:50pm

re: #687 PT Barnum

Hullo..how's tricks?

She's great! How's Daisy?

694 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:24:51pm

re: #687 PT Barnum

Hullo..how's tricks?

Rodenticide was more fun.

695 darthstar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:25:01pm

re: #662 MandyManners

I reckon from your "quotes" that you don't believe Maher, either.

No...He was telling a joke. Obviously, he didn't quote a teabagger. He was pretending to quote a teabagger. I'll type more slowly next time so you can follow.

696 Ericus58  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:25:05pm

Robert Culp
August 16, 1930 - March 24, 2010

R.I.P.

For you gamers, remember Half-Life 2? He voiced one of gaming's most beloved villains, Dr. Wallace Breen.

697 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:25:36pm

re: #676 avanti

The corporations were writing off the entire cost of Medicare payments even though tax payer were paying part of it. We'll get back billions in taxes that are due from double dipping.

The corps do NOT "writ(ing) off the entire cost of Medicare payments even though tax payer were paying part of it."

The corps through the employees ARE the tax payers that are paying it. What the employers get to "write off" is a percentage of what they pay in over and above what the employees pay in at EBITDA

698 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:25:46pm

re: #696 Ericus58

Robert Culp
August 16, 1930 - March 24, 2010

R.I.P.

For you gamers, remember Half-Life 2? He voiced one of gaming's most beloved villains, Dr. Wallace Breen.

I kind of half heard that on NPR this morning. Sad.

699 SteveC  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:26:14pm

re: #689 The Sanity Inspector

We'll put all those extra IRS agents to good use, rooting through people's sock drawers and digging up their backyards. They'll cough up, somehow.

The back yard is so old school, we got better places to hide our cash now.

Hint: Amy isn't a C-Cup.

700 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:26:23pm

re: #683 The Shadow Do

Let's see, American companies drowning in their own juices, foreign companies making investments, building plants, hiring people.

What is one to make of all that?

If only you guys looked this shit up instead of repeating talking points: [Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

Seriously. This is the internet. it isn't hard.

701 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:27:09pm

re: #482 MandyManners

I HOPE THAT EVERYONE WHO REFUSED TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN BECAUSE HE WASN'T CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH IS FUCKING HAPPY NOW.

re: #528 MandyManners

WELL, MAYBE I OUGHT' GET BUSY FUCKING.

re: #539 Racer X

*perks up*

Mandy the horny nun lectures us yet again on political potency.

I need a drink of rosewater.

Hold the pointless apostrophes, please. Just shaken, with a double gin and a twist of irony.

702 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:27:11pm

re: #672 windupbird

GM making some of the coolest cars they have ever made, BTW. Cadillac Sportwagon FTW.

the new Camaro is a beast....just like the old days

703 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:27:23pm

re: #696 Ericus58

Robert Culp
August 16, 1930 - March 24, 2010

R.I.P.

For you gamers, remember Half-Life 2? He voiced one of gaming's most beloved villains, Dr. Wallace Breen.

He was one sexy man in his prime.

704 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:28:00pm

Gotta' go make sure the milk is gone.

705 avanti  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:28:33pm

re: #679 RogueOne

So the government run auto company admits it made a pretty substantial error in judgment right out of the gate. "Let's put them in charge of more stuff to see how well they can really screw shit up" just doesn't sound like a good plan to me.

I predict it will not be government owned within 12 months, and the good news is, they'll still be making great cars. I think they had the shit scared out of them, and learned a lesson.

706 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:28:39pm

re: #701 Cato the Elder

Mandy the horny nun lectures us yet again on political potency.

I need a drink of rosewater.

Hold the pointless apostrophes, please. Just shaken, with a double gin and a twist of irony.

But by this time, McCain would have died and we'd be stuck with Caribou Barbie and her VP Todd of the same name.

707 The Shadow Do  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:28:47pm

re: #680 windupbird

Sorry, I just think it's shitty and disrespectful to engineering grad students to think they should all be HOT HOT SEXAY HOT

But then again, I hang out with people who are ugly and smart and creative so what do I know?

Geeez, you are a sensitive soul now aren't you. It's ok sometimes to goof around, Bird. Really.

/I look exactly like Brad Pitt and I only hang out with beautiful people, so of course I can joke about looks. Are you funny looking too?

708 darthstar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:28:49pm

re: #702 albusteve

the new Camaro is a beast...just like the old days

I stand corrected...I do like that new Camaro. Though I still want a '67 convertible.

709 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:29:22pm

re: #702 albusteve

the new Camaro is a beast...just like the old days

I like how the windows are as narrow as tank slits. It's an evil, awesome car, and it's finally a competitor to the Mustang GT. A friend of mine wants one, but stuck with his Pontiac G8 GXP because he likes 4 doors.

710 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:29:40pm

Nevada tea party candidate facing felony charges

A Nevada asphalt contractor who faces a legal challenge to his Tea Party of Nevada candidacy for U.S. Senate was hit Friday with felony theft and bad check charges in Las Vegas that allege he bounced a $5,000 business check last year.

Scott Ashjian is one of a record 22 candidates, including 12 Republicans, running for the seat held by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, who is seeking a fifth term.

Bernie Zadrowski, head of the Clark County district attorney's office bad check unit, said he would seek an arrest warrant Monday in Las Vegas Justice Court. Ashjian could face up to 14 years in state prison if convicted.

Fiscal responsibility!

711 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:29:40pm

re: #685 windupbird

So the government run auto company
So the government run auto company
So the government run auto company
So the government run auto company
So the government run auto company
So the government run auto company
So the government run auto company

You have no idea what you're talking about. GM is not run by the US government.

It was the Obama admins "automotive task force" that forced the closings on chrysler and GM. Pay attention.

712 avanti  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:30:05pm

re: #699 SteveC

The back yard is so old school, we got better places to hide our cash now.

Hint: Amy isn't a C-Cup.

BTW, the 17,000 IRS guys comes from the GOP, pure nonsense.

713 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:30:14pm

re: #705 avanti

I predict it will not be government owned within 12 months, and the good news is, they'll still be making great cars. I think they had the shit scared out of them, and learned a lesson.

how will the taxpayers get the loan money back?

714 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:30:31pm

re: #709 windupbird

I like how the windows are as narrow as tank slits. It's an evil, awesome car, and it's finally a competitor to the Mustang GT. A friend of mine wants one, but stuck with his Pontiac G8 GXP because he likes 4 doors.

Yeah the narrow windows give the car kind of a retro future look...IIRC, Chrysler/Dodge started the trend with the 300 and some of the other cars they brought out at the same time.

715 Gus  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:30:31pm

re: #711 RogueOne

It was the Obama admins "automotive task force" that forced the closings on chrysler and GM. Pay attention.

If it wasn't because of the feds GM would have been history. Beggars can't be choosy.

716 Altermite  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:30:36pm
717 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:30:37pm

re: #607 Gus 802

Wow, it's pretty upbeat in here.

/

Part of the problem is that lots of people still fall for the self-perpetuating idiocracy that utilizes the fool-proof, time honored good-cop / bad-cop technique to convince you that ONE side is your buddy. One set of idiots gives you your own little set of other idiots to hate, and your own little idiot friend to JOIN.

Can it POSSIBLY be an accident that we appear to have only the two viable options (GOP vs. Dems), both of them demonstrably dumber than a box of rusty hammers, and neither of them interested in anything other than imposing their particular fetishes on the rest of us?

In theory, the US should be a place where one could find over 300 million different political opinions.

The terms "liberal" and "conservative" are both practically meaningless to anyone who is not already a fanatic - like Bible passages, they can mean so many different things that they cancel themselves out in internal contradictions.

718 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:30:52pm

re: #706 PT Barnum

But by this time, McCain would have died and we'd be stuck with Caribou Barbie and her VP Todd of the same name.

Given what we know now about Bible Spice, I'm certain McCain would not have gone gently into that good night.

719 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:31:01pm

re: #713 albusteve

how will the taxpayers get the loan money back?

haha

HAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

720 jaunte  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:31:06pm

re: #710 Killgore Trout

A Nevada asphalt contractor who faces a legal challenge to his Tea Party of Nevada candidacy for U.S. Senate was hit Friday with felony theft and bad check charges in Las Vegas that allege he bounced a $5,000 business check last year.


Scotch tape and feather him!

721 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:32:01pm

re: #712 avanti

BTW, the 17,000 IRS guys comes from the GOP, pure nonsense.

it came from the CBO

722 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:32:07pm

re: #718 Cato the Elder

Given what we know now about Bible Spice, I'm certain McCain would not have gone gently into that good night.

No probably, salmonella from eating rancid moose stew.

723 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:32:08pm

re: #705 avanti

I predict it will not be government owned within 12 months, and the good news is, they'll still be making great cars. I think they had the shit scared out of them, and learned a lesson.

I think you're high.//

Actually I chuckled a bit at how hopeful you sounded about something earlier. Keep hope alive man.

724 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:32:21pm

re: #717 negativ

Part of the problem is that lots of people still fall for the self-perpetuating idiocracy that utilizes the fool-proof, time honored good-cop / bad-cop technique to convince you that ONE side is your buddy. One set of idiots gives you your own little set of other idiots to hate, and your own little idiot friend to JOIN.

Can it POSSIBLY be an accident that we appear to have only the two viable options (GOP vs. Dems), both of them demonstrably dumber than a box of rusty hammers, and neither of them interested in anything other than imposing their particular fetishes on the rest of us?

In theory, the US should be a place where one could find over 300 million different political opinions.

The terms "liberal" and "conservative" are both practically meaningless to anyone who is not already a fanatic - like Bible passages, they can mean so many different things that they cancel themselves out in internal contradictions.

I love the Italians, but you don't want their 42-party politics.

725 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:32:39pm

re: #711 RogueOne

It was the Obama admins "automotive task force" that forced the closings on chrysler and GM. Pay attention.

I understood the feds now control 60% of GM

726 SteveC  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:32:43pm

re: #699 SteveC

The back yard is so old school, we got better places to hide our cash now.

Hint: Amy isn't a C-Cup.

re: #712 avanti

BTW, the 17,000 IRS guys comes from the GOP, pure nonsense.

Amy still isn't a C-Cup. :)

727 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:33:03pm

re: #719 sattv4u2

haha

HAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

try the veal?

728 avanti  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:33:13pm

re: #713 albusteve

how will the taxpayers get the loan money back?

Turn off Fox TV once now and than and watch read the news:

"SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- General Motors Corp. said Thursday that it will make another payment of $1.2 billion by the end of the month toward the debt it owes the U.S. and Canadian governments. The automaker made its first repayment for the same amount back in December and said it plans to fully repay the $6.7 billion in loans from the U.S. government by June. "While we have more work to do, GM is building high-quality, award-winning vehicles, our direction is clear and our plan is working," GM Chairman and CEO Ed Whitacre said. "

729 The Shadow Do  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:33:15pm

re: #690 SteveC

Them there foreigners got it goin' on! Wonder if they can use another good ol' boy down at the plant...?

Hope so. You do know that there foreign plant, hiring them good old boys, also supports a lot of professionals and other businesses well beyond the fence. Don't you?

730 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:33:21pm

re: #707 The Shadow Do

Geeez, you are a sensitive soul now aren't you. It's ok sometimes to goof around, Bird. Really.

/I look exactly like Brad Pitt and I only hang out with beautiful people, so of course I can joke about looks. Are you funny looking too?

"This is a feminist bookstore. There is no humor section!"
-- John Callahan cartoon

731 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:34:06pm

re: #715 Gus 802

If it wasn't because of the feds GM would have been history. Beggars can't be choosy.

We spent a lot of money on a temporary fix, just like with the housing fiasco and the stimulus bill. They're still talking about another stimulus bill since the first one just wasn't big enough and they're still desperately trying to fix the housing meltdown. We're throwing good after bad, over and over.

732 Ericus58  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:34:11pm

re: #703 MandyManners

He was one sexy man in his prime.

not that I'd know anything about that....

733 avanti  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:34:12pm

re: #719 sattv4u2

haha

HAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- General Motors Corp. said Thursday that it will make another payment of $1.2 billion by the end of the month toward the debt it owes the U.S. and Canadian governments. The automaker made its first repayment for the same amount back in December and said it plans to fully repay the $6.7 billion in loans from the U.S. government by June. "While we have more work to do, GM is building high-quality, award-winning vehicles, our direction is clear and our plan is working," GM Chairman and CEO Ed Whitacre said.

734 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:34:17pm

re: #728 avanti

Turn off Fox TV once now and than and watch read the news:

"SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- General Motors Corp. said Thursday that it will make another payment of $1.2 billion by the end of the month toward the debt it owes the U.S. and Canadian governments. The automaker made its first repayment for the same amount back in December and said it plans to fully repay the $6.7 billion in loans from the U.S. government by June. "While we have more work to do, GM is building high-quality, award-winning vehicles, our direction is clear and our plan is working," GM Chairman and CEO Ed Whitacre said. "

wtf?....that doesn't answer the question....why so snippy?

735 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:34:26pm

re: #710 Killgore Trout

LOL! Asphalt contractor, now THERE's an honorable profession, with a reputation of gold!
///

736 ryannon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:34:28pm

re: #717 negativ

Part of the problem is that lots of people still fall for the self-perpetuating idiocracy that utilizes the fool-proof, time honored good-cop / bad-cop technique to convince you that ONE side is your buddy. One set of idiots gives you your own little set of other idiots to hate, and your own little idiot friend to JOIN.

Can it POSSIBLY be an accident that we appear to have only the two viable options (GOP vs. Dems), both of them demonstrably dumber than a box of rusty hammers, and neither of them interested in anything other than imposing their particular fetishes on the rest of us?

In theory, the US should be a place where one could find over 300 million different political opinions.

The terms "liberal" and "conservative" are both practically meaningless to anyone who is not already a fanatic - like Bible passages, they can mean so many different things that they cancel themselves out in internal contradictions.

Zing.

Mega-updings.

737 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:34:55pm

re: #711 RogueOne

It was the Obama admins "automotive task force" that forced the closings on chrysler and GM. Pay attention.

hahahah what

yeah, because Chrysler's dire straits were because of Obama (!?!?!!!) and not because they were already in bad shape, then worse shape after being absorbed by Daimler. Sorry, we're done here. If you don't understand the GM timeline, what Chapter 11 means, why a new corporation needed to be created to purchase assets, and how it's going to have an IPO...
we're just done. :)

738 swamprat  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:35:19pm

Man, we could have still had the Desoto, Studebaker's, Ramblers (all the AMCs) Porters, Rios, ....
We should have done this ages ago.


Just think what a 2010 DeSoto would look like.

Government cars. Government railroads.

What next? Government dogfood?

New! From GOVCHOW! FlavaBites! Now with 10 percent MORE commodity chicken!

739 SteveC  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:35:36pm

re: #718 Cato the Elder

Given what we know now about Bible Spice, I'm certain McCain would not have gone gently into that good night.

Yo, I'll tell you what I want, what I really really want,
So tell me what you want, what you really really want,
I'll tell you what I want, what I really really want,
So tell me what you want, what you really really want,
I wanna, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna really
really really wanna be President!

740 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:35:37pm

re: #725 albusteve

I understood the feds now control 60% of GM

My shop and most of my work are in towns built by GM and Chrysler. It was great while it lasted but it's been a 30 year downward spiral.

741 avanti  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:36:26pm

re: #734 albusteve

wtf?...that doesn't answer the question...why so snippy?

I'm sorry, I thought showing you that they are paying it back would answer your question as to how. They'll sell cars, make a profit, and pay it back.

742 SteveC  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:36:46pm

re: #729 The Shadow Do

Hope so. You do know that there foreign plant, hiring them good old boys, also supports a lot of professionals and other businesses well beyond the fence. Don't you?

They got a word for that. I think it is "Capitalism"

743 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:37:12pm

re: #729 The Shadow Do

Hope so. You do know that there foreign plant, hiring them good old boys, also supports a lot of professionals and other businesses well beyond the fence. Don't you?

So it's not at all a conflict of interest to you that Republicans who represent states wit a great deal of their economy relying on foreign non-union auto plants are hostile to GM staying solvent? ;-)


If that aint a conflict of interest, I'm a My Little Pony, prancing around and eating grass with a big daisy screenprinted on my butt

744 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:37:15pm

re: #735 Floral Giraffe

LOL! Asphalt contractor, now THERE's an honorable profession, with a reputation of gold!
///

guy in MI started with driveways and parking lots...grew his business for years and sold it....he gave most of the profits to his employees...the longest were made instant millionairs, and even short time newbies got a hell of a bonus....

745 darthstar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:37:21pm

re: #716 Altermite

[Link: pics.kuvaton.com...]

That was fucking hilarious...sharing widely.

746 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:37:27pm

Haditha trial is a go.

747 Gus  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:38:18pm

re: #731 RogueOne

We spent a lot of money on a temporary fix, just like with the housing fiasco and the stimulus bill. They're still talking about another stimulus bill since the first one just wasn't big enough and they're still desperately trying to fix the housing meltdown. We're throwing good after bad, over and over.

Well, the other theory was to let GM go under thus following natural market principles. One of the main reasons for the failure was their product. Other then their truck production the rest was predominated by the typical American boats and SUVs that get poor gas mileage -- unlike Ford Motor Company. They're finally getting the picture now.

748 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:38:21pm

re: #738 swamprat

Man, we could have still had the Desoto, Studebaker's, Ramblers (all the AMCs) Porters, Rios, ...
We should have done this ages ago.

Just think what a 2010 DeSoto would look like.

Government cars. Government railroads.

What next? Government dogfood?

New! From GOVCHOW! FlavaBites! Now with 10 percent MORE commodity chicken!

Oh I wish more people here understood the basics of economics


But talking points they are so much more sexay

749 avanti  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:38:21pm

re: #738 swamprat

Man, we could have still had the Desoto, Studebaker's, Ramblers (all the AMCs) Porters, Rios, ...
We should have done this ages ago.

Just think what a 2010 DeSoto would look like.

Government cars. Government railroads.

What next? Government dogfood?

New! From GOVCHOW! FlavaBites! Now with 10 percent MORE commodity chicken!

They did consider a sort of bail out for Studebaker, but it never happened. Studebakers failure did get a government insurance program for pensions though.

750 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:38:28pm

re: #741 avanti

I'm sorry, I thought showing you that they are paying it back would answer your question as to how. They'll sell cars, make a profit, and pay it back.

they pay it back to the feds....but it's your money

751 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:38:28pm

re: #746 MandyManners

Haditha trial is a go.

Are you wearing your celibate lingerie tonight?

Because I'm feeling all misogynistic.

752 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:39:06pm

re: #737 windupbird

hahahah what

yeah, because Chrysler's dire straits were because of Obama (!?!?!!!) and not because they were already in bad shape, then worse shape after being absorbed by Daimler. Sorry, we're done here. If you don't understand the GM timeline, what Chapter 11 means, why a new corporation needed to be created to purchase assets, and how it's going to have an IPO...
we're just done. :)

You said I didn't know what I was talking about when I said the government made a mistake. They were the folks in charge. They were the ones that insisted on the closings and now they want to reopen a bunch which is really another mistake, and I still am waiting for you to admit you were wrong. Quit getting your talking points from Maddow, this is the internet it's easy to find the right information or so I've been told.

753 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:39:14pm

re: #742 SteveC

They got a word for that. I think it is "Capitalism"

So is it okay when Japan bails out their automakers, it's just not okay when we do it? Gotcha.

754 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:39:30pm

Night!

755 austin_blue  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:39:33pm

re: #631 albusteve

sure, of course...the dire straights facing CA, IL and other states is fantasy

But that isn't what you said.

756 sngnsgt  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:39:39pm

Official: '24' ends on Fox

Dammit!

757 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:39:47pm

re: #753 windupbird

So is it okay when Japan bails out their automakers, it's just not okay when we do it? Gotcha.

Japan did it!

758 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:39:48pm

re: #711 RogueOne

It was the Obama admins "automotive task force" that forced the closings on chrysler and GM. Pay attention.

759 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:40:03pm

re: #751 Cato the Elder

Are you wearing your celibate lingerie tonight?

Because I'm feeling all misogynistic.

Beats the hell out of what you usually,, umm,,"feel", huh !?!?!

//

760 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:40:07pm

re: #719 sattv4u2

haha

HAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Now, now, remember how Lee Iaccoca paid the feds back ahead of schedule, during Chrysler's 80s bailout. I remember a political cartoon from the time, showing a hippie clutching a student loan note, looking incredulously over Iaccoca's shoulder as he wrote the check. "You're repaying WHAT!?!?!"

761 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:40:47pm

re: #733 avanti

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- General Motors Corp. said Thursday that it will make another payment of $1.2 billion by the end of the month toward the debt it owes the U.S. and Canadian governments. The automaker made its first repayment for the same amount back in December and said it plans to fully repay the $6.7 billion in loans from the U.S. government by June. "While we have more work to do, GM is building high-quality, award-winning vehicles, our direction is clear and our plan is working," GM Chairman and CEO Ed Whitacre said.

The sooner they repay the money, the sooner they can get the feds out of their boardroom.

762 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:41:07pm

re: #755 austin_blue

But that isn't what you said.

I said CA cannot pay it's union debts

763 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:41:15pm

re: #760 The Sanity Inspector

Now, now, remember how Lee Iaccoca paid the feds back ahead of schedule, during Chrysler's 80s bailout. I remember a political cartoon from the time, showing a hippie clutching a student loan note, looking incredulously over Iaccoca's shoulder as he wrote the check. "You're repaying WHAT!?!?!"

Problem is, I don;'t see any Iaccoca's in this scenario

764 SteveC  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:41:58pm

re: #756 sngnsgt

Official: '24' ends on Fox

Dammit!

Wait a damn minute? Ain't it the middle of the day?!?!?

Did Jack ever use the head in that show?

765 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:42:01pm

re: #747 Gus 802

Well, the other theory was to let GM go under thus following natural market principles. One of the main reasons for the failure was their product. Other then their truck production the rest was predominated by the typical American boats and SUVs that get poor gas mileage -- unlike Ford Motor Company. They're finally getting the picture now.

I don't have that faith. The only money they've been bringing to town is in the bulldozing of dozens of plants over the last few years.

766 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:42:37pm

re: #761 The Sanity Inspector

The sooner they repay the money, the sooner they can get the feds out of their boardroom.

They should be thanking a fed that they've got a boardroom.

767 cliffster  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:42:37pm

Evening folks. Anybody executing a rodent tonight?

768 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:42:58pm

re: #560 Floral Giraffe

'Spensive bastard, aren't you?

That's "basterd" to you. "Inglourious", to be precise.

769 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:42:58pm

re: #762 albusteve

I said CA cannot pay it's union debts

Ca is MILES from paying it's union obligations.
Only to get worse, before it can conceivably, get better.
And, that's NOT bloody likely.

770 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:43:00pm

re: #761 The Sanity Inspector

The sooner they repay the money, the sooner they can get the feds out of their boardroom.

the feds tax the people, give it to GM...they pay it back and the feds pocket it...sweet

771 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:43:06pm

re: #752 RogueOne

You said I didn't know what I was talking about when I said the government made a mistake. They were the folks in charge. They were the ones that insisted on the closings and now they want to reopen a bunch which is really another mistake, and I still am waiting for you to admit you were wrong. Quit getting your talking points from Maddow, this is the internet it's easy to find the right information or so I've been told.


haha actually, I think it's a mistake NOW to open too many dealers dude. The dealer network for Gm has been bloated to the point of absurditty for years. Their badge engineering has been legendary. Hay, how many ways can we rebadge a Daewoo? Poof, it's an Aveo! Poof, it's a G3! Sorry, I just don't believe you're that interested in the auto industry, and because I am, it's pointless to have this conversation. I want to talk cars and the reality, you want to push a political line. It's just not going to work, I'm leaving you at the altar ;-)

If I'm getting talking points about the auto industry, blame Autoweek, blame Jalopnik, blame Motor Trend, blame Bloomberg, blame Businessweek. Cheers. :)

772 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:43:35pm

Note to Hitchens fans: he was on Bill Maher tonight.

773 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:43:38pm

re: #768 Cato the Elder

That's "basterd" to you. "Inglourious", to be precise.

If you insist!
*smooch*

774 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:43:46pm
775 Taqyia2Me  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:44:28pm

I'm not the only one wondering:

776 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:44:37pm

re: #768 Cato the Elder

That's "basterd" to you. "Inglourious", to be precise.

get away from me with that toad picker you freak

777 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:44:50pm

OT ,, Duke/ Purdue in a pretty sloppy game so far

Both teams combined haven't hit 50 points at the half!

778 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:45:17pm

re: #770 albusteve

the feds tax the people, give it to GM...they pay it back and the feds pocket it...sweet

Anything for the people, you know...

779 Ericus58  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:45:27pm

I could be missing the mark... But I'm thinking that the point of the posters laughing at the thought of the money being repaid the government was that the "Taxpayers" would never see that money themselves... just more money for the government to turn around and spend again....

But I've had a few wonderful Smithwick's and it could be the point is already understood and I'm just wasting thread space...

carry on.

780 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:45:43pm

re: #772 JasonA

Note to Hitchens fans: he was on Bill Maher tonight.

Anything interesting happen?

781 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:45:45pm

re: #772 JasonA

Note to Hitchens fans: he was on Bill Maher tonight.

I KNEW Maher was a "bottom boy"!!

NTTAWWT!!!
//

782 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:45:46pm

re: #767 cliffster

Evening folks. Anybody executing a rodent tonight?

I said something really incredibly rude about Sarah Palin upthread....


Made You Look!

783 avanti  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:46:31pm

re: #750 albusteve

they pay it back to the feds...but it's your money

The few dollars I'd get back would be chump changed compared to the cost to the economy and my IRA of GM's failure . i.e. the market is up over 60% this year, where would it be if the GM tanked ?

784 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:46:37pm

re: #779 Ericus58

I could be missing the mark... But I'm thinking that the point of the posters laughing at the thought of the money being repaid the government was that the "Taxpayers" would never see that money themselves... just more money for the government to turn around and spend again...

But I've had a few wonderful Smithwick's and it could be the point is already understood and I'm just wasting thread space...

carry on.

BULLSEYE

785 cliffster  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:46:45pm

re: #777 sattv4u2

OT ,, Duke/ Purdue in a pretty sloppy game so far

Both teams combined haven't hit 50 points at the half!

It's a defensive showcase.

786 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:46:47pm

re: #772 JasonA

Note to Hitchens fans: he was on Bill Maher tonight.

He wants the pope arrested. Ha Ha.

787 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:47:07pm

re: #780 Killgore Trout

Anything interesting happen?

Talking about the church scandals if you're interested in that.

788 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:47:19pm

re: #774 The Sanity Inspector

Provisions of the health care bill that are supposed to go into effect this year

A timeline for the enactment of all the provisions.

Via a week-old Ezra Klein column, so I don't know if any of this got changed.

Much thanks, checking it out now. I really need some immediate relief.

789 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:47:45pm

Evening lizards! How's things?

790 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:47:46pm

re: #777 sattv4u2

OT ,, Duke/ Purdue in a pretty sloppy game so far

Both teams combined haven't hit 50 points at the half!

Purdue is still in it. That's all that matters for now.

791 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:47:59pm

re: #786 RogueOne

He wants the pope arrested. Ha Ha.

I won't go that far, but I do want it investigated.

792 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:48:14pm

re: #785 cliffster

It's a defensive showcase.

heh ,,,, 1st five minutes I saw Purdue miss the rim at LEAST 5 times,,and there wasn't much "pressure' on the shooter

In the same timeframe, Duke turned it over that many

793 jaunte  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:48:19pm

re: #789 NJDhockeyfan

Bitchin'! (as usual).

794 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:48:40pm

re: #767 cliffster

No. That was unique. THANK GOD!

795 austin_blue  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:48:53pm

re: #762 albusteve

I said CA cannot pay it's union debts

No. Here is what you said:

re: #547 avanti

BTW, GM announced today that they are paying back 3 billion and intend to pay it all back before going public again. If the good news keeps coming, the Armageddon talk will look silly.

you'd believe anything that fits your paradigm...the UAW and GM pales next to whats coming when the states collapse from unfunded union mandates...you and your liberal buddies are betting that the feds, the very same morons that got us into this mess are gonna get us out of it...and not with private money, but via taxation...no comprende

That's very different, isn't it?

796 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:48:59pm

re: #768 Cato the Elder

That's "basterd" to you. "Inglourious", to be precise.

The opening scene of that movie deserves a million Oscars.

797 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:49:02pm

re: #779 Ericus58

I could be missing the mark... But I'm thinking that the point of the posters laughing at the thought of the money being repaid the government was that the "Taxpayers" would never see that money themselves... just more money for the government to turn around and spend again...

But I've had a few wonderful Smithwick's and it could be the point is already understood and I'm just wasting thread space...

carry on.

They'll be taxing your buzz before it's all said & done with...

798 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:49:14pm

re: #792 sattv4u2

heh ,,, 1st five minutes I saw Purdue miss the rim at LEAST 5 times,,and there wasn't much "pressure' on the shooter

In the same timeframe, Duke turned it over that many

I got the impression he was being sarcastic.

799 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:49:15pm

re: #793 jaunte

Bitchin'! (as usual).

Good...I don't like a boring LGF.

800 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:49:31pm

re: #783 avanti

The few dollars I'd get back would be chump changed compared to the cost to the economy and my IRA of GM's failure . i.e. the market is up over 60% this year, where would it be if the GM tanked ?

that right there sums it all up....it's just chump change...and btw I don't give a shit about your IRA, that would be stretching it

801 cliffster  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:49:36pm

re: #792 sattv4u2

The big names are not-so-big this year

802 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:49:46pm

re: #798 RogueOne

I got the impression he was being sarcastic.

Me too, but just covering my bases

803 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:50:03pm

re: #793 jaunte

Nice Cover, Jaunte..

804 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:50:21pm

re: #787 JasonA

Maybe I'll catch it on youtube this weekend. The Church scandals don't seem to be much new to me. Most of this was known when Ratzinger was appointed Pope. I'm not sure why the MSM is interested now.

805 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:50:41pm

re: #795 austin_blue

No. Here is what you said:

re: #547 avanti

BTW, GM announced today that they are paying back 3 billion and intend to pay it all back before going public again. If the good news keeps coming, the Armageddon talk will look silly.

you'd believe anything that fits your paradigm...the UAW and GM pales next to whats coming when the states collapse from unfunded union mandates...you and your liberal buddies are betting that the feds, the very same morons that got us into this mess are gonna get us out of it...and not with private money, but via taxation...no comprende

That's very different, isn't it?

no, not very

806 jaunte  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:50:42pm

re: #803 Decatur Deb

Thanks!

807 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:51:07pm

re: #804 Killgore Trout

Maybe I'll catch it on youtube this weekend. The Church scandals don't seem to be much new to me. Most of this was known when Ratzinger was appointed Pope. I'm not sure why the MSM is interested now.

Well, the hits do keep coming. And I'd rather they be interested than not, imho.

808 Ericus58  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:51:18pm

re: #797 The Sanity Inspector

They'll be taxing your buzz before it's all said & done with...

Oh NO!!!
My buzz is a precious thing, only to be enjoyed when not working the weekend!!

809 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:51:20pm

re: #804 Killgore Trout

Maybe I'll catch it on youtube this weekend. The Church scandals don't seem to be much new to me. Most of this was known when Ratzinger was appointed Pope. I'm not sure why the MSM is interested now.

They hire a nazi and act all surprised he'd sweep a little pedophilia under the rug.

810 cliffster  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:51:40pm

re: #802 sattv4u2

Me too, but just covering my bases

I'm actually paying closer attention to my Spurs taking out the #1-in-NBA Cavaliers. Lebron who?

811 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:51:45pm

re: #809 RogueOne

I've been dying to say that all day, feels good to get if off my chest.///

812 avanti  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:51:51pm

re: #758 MandyManners

True enough, but that was before CFC and a general rebound in sales. Once sales when up, they added shifts to build more cars and added dealers to sell them. You can blame Obama for a lot of things, but GM would not be here without the governments help, nor would have Chrysler years ago. I have my doubts about the long term future of Chrysler this time, but have real hope for GM.

813 Lidane  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:51:56pm

re: #768 Cato the Elder

That's "basterd" to you. "Inglourious", to be precise.

If you insist:

:)

814 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:52:08pm

re: #783 avanti

The few dollars I'd get back would be chump changed compared to the cost to the economy and my IRA of GM's failure . i.e. the market is up over 60% this year, where would it be if the GM tanked ?

ummm,, up over 58% !!!

Yes,, there would be a temporary bump in unemployment, but the other automakers would have to ramp up production to fill the void meaning they would be looking for experienced workers

815 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:52:08pm

UNI Game is pretty tight...UNI leading by 5

816 Ericus58  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:52:37pm

bbiab - a nice Manacotti awaits....

I Love this GAL!!!

817 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:52:41pm

re: #808 Ericus58

Oh NO!!!
My buzz is a precious thing, only to be enjoyed when not working the weekend!!

CA is contemplating legalizing pot...for the tax revenue....hahaha!, talk about desperate

818 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:52:54pm

re: #789 NJDhockeyfan

Evening lizards! How's things?

Hanging,

819 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:53:16pm

re: #790 RogueOne

Purdue is still in it. That's all that matters for now.

I always go for the ACC team.

820 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:53:35pm

re: #810 cliffster

I'm actually paying closer attention to my Spurs taking out the #1-in-NBA Cavaliers. Lebron who?

The Spurs had the Lakers on the ropes for most of 3 quarters last night ,, so , don't count your chickens, and all that

821 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:53:56pm

re: #817 albusteve

CA is contemplating legalizing pot...for the tax revenue...hahaha!, talk about desperate

Don't forget the money saved from not putting people behind bars over weed.

822 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:54:01pm

re: #819 The Sanity Inspector

I always go for the ACC team.

In football, yes

BBALL ,,,not so much!

823 cliffster  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:54:02pm

re: #820 sattv4u2

The Spurs had the Lakers on the ropes for most of 3 quarters last night ,, so , don't count your chickens, and all that

yeah that was rough

824 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:54:22pm

re: #818 MandyManners

Hanging,

Loose & full of juice?

825 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:54:30pm

re: #818 MandyManners

Hanging,

you peeking again!?!?

826 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:54:35pm

re: #819 The Sanity Inspector

I always go for the ACC team.

There's still a chance 2 teams from Indiana could end up in Indy for the final 4.

827 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:54:37pm
Indoor Tanning Services Tax. Imposes a ten percent tax on amounts paid for indoor tanning services in lieu of the tax on cosmetic surgery. Indoor tanning services are services that use an electronic product with one or more ultraviolet lamps to induce skin tanning. The tax would be effective for services on or after July 1, 2010.


No wonder that orange guy is so pissed.

828 bratwurst  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:54:57pm

re: #809 RogueOne

They hire a nazi and act all surprised he'd sweep a little pedophilia under the rug.

I am not at all a fan of the man, and obviously the charges that have been made recently are truly sickening. However, it is unfair and wrong to call the man a Nazi because he was forced to join Hitler Youth as a child.

829 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:55:40pm

re: #827 Killgore Trout

No wonder that orange guy is so pissed.

you wanna see pissed, wait till nana Pelosi gets her Botox SurTax!

830 jaunte  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:55:59pm

re: #827 Killgore Trout

That will probably cut down on a small percentage of skin cancer procedures.

831 cliffster  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:56:14pm

re: #829 sattv4u2

you wanna see pissed, wait till nana Pelosi gets her Botox SurTax!

First blink in decades

832 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:56:24pm

re: #821 JasonA

Don't forget the money saved from not putting people behind bars over weed.

no shit...their massive prison system is in shambles....they are cuting loose tens of thousands of crooks and dropping the costly nanny system to watch out for them on parole....CA is severely fucked....they continue to litigate death row cases for like forty years!...at taxpayers expense

833 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:57:02pm

re: #828 bratwurst

I am not at all a fan of the man, and obviously the charges that have been made recently are truly sickening. However, it is unfair and wrong to call the man a Nazi because he was forced to join Hitler Youth as a child.

I was j/k. I don't think the pope is a nazi symapthizer.

834 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:57:57pm

re: #767 cliffster

Evening folks. Anybody executing a rodent tonight?

We're always trying.

Right now I'm working on a rosy-nosed defenseman and his mandytory mole.

835 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:58:12pm

re: #830 jaunte

That will probably cut down on a small percentage of skin cancer procedures.

The Army Surgeon General had them blocked from installation morale/welfare operations more than a decade ago.

836 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:58:21pm

From the immediate provisions:

MORE FOR YOUR PREMIUM DOLLAR—Requires plans to put more of your premiums into your care, and less into profits, CEO pay, etc. This medical loss ratio requires plans in the individual and small group market to spend 80 percent of premiums on medical services, and plans in the large group market to spend 85 percent. Insurers that don’t meet these thresholds must provide rebates to policyholders. Effective on January 1, 2011.

I'd much rather see more competition among the insurance companies, than a diktat like this. I'm a great believer in the law of unintended consequences, and the TARFU possibilities here are numerous.

837 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:58:34pm

re: #774 The Sanity Inspector

Provisions of the health care bill that are supposed to go into effect this year

A timeline for the enactment of all the provisions.

Via a week-old Ezra Klein column, so I don't know if any of this got changed.

Excellent links. Thank you very much for posting them. Unfortunately most of the cool stuff doesn't happen until 2014.

838 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:58:53pm

re: #834 Cato the Elder

We're always trying.

Right now I'm working on a rosy-nosed defenseman and his mandytory mole.

I've noticed you have a peculiar obsession with Mandy.

839 austin_blue  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:59:03pm
I said CA cannot pay it's union debts

re: #795 austin_blue

No. Here is what you said:

re: #547 avanti

BTW, GM announced today that they are paying back 3 billion and intend to pay it all back before going public again. If the good news keeps coming, the Armageddon talk will look silly.

840 jaunte  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:59:13pm

re: #835 Decatur Deb

People are just going to have to get used to being wan color.

841 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:59:37pm

re: #838 NJDhockeyfan

I've noticed you have a peculiar obsession with Mandy.

he came to the realization that Sarah is never going to answer his mating calls, so he has re-set his sights

842 ryannon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:59:45pm

re: #837 Killgore Trout

Excellent links. Thank you very much for posting them. Unfortunately most of the cool stuff doesn't happen until 2014.

That's because we'll all be dead in 2012.

843 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:00:04pm

re: #838 NJDhockeyfan

I've noticed you have a peculiar obsession with Mandy.

he's burned on Palin...just moving on

844 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:00:28pm

re: #813 Lidane

If you insist

That's the original, which I've watched with pleasure.

Has about as much to do with Quentin's version as I have to do with the original Cato.

But that's entertainment!

;^)

845 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:00:29pm

re: #841 sattv4u2

he came to the realization that Sarah is never going to answer his mating calls, so he has re-set his sights

I'd ALMOST like to upding that, but not quite.

846 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:00:32pm

re: #825 sattv4u2

you peeking again!?!?

I'm a bad gurrrlll.

847 bratwurst  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:00:40pm

re: #833 RogueOne

I was j/k. I don't think the pope is a nazi symapthizer.

As someone who has spent a significant part of my life in Germany (and also happens to be a Jew), I have not and will not lose my sensitivity to people throwing that charge around carelessly. I have mixed feelings about the legal status of doing so in Germany, but on the other hand it is certainly refreshing not to have to hear people trivialize mass murder on a near daily basis either.

848 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:00:46pm

re: #842 ryannon

That's because we'll all be dead in 2012.

Oh, yeah. I forgot about the Death Panels and Cloward Piven. Damn, where's my apocalyptic seed bank?

849 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:00:59pm

re: #836 The Sanity Inspector

From the immediate provisions:

I'd much rather see more competition among the insurance companies, than a diktat like this. I'm a great believer in the law of unintended consequences, and the TARFU possibilities here are numerous.

Quite Concur.

850 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:01:14pm

re: #840 jaunte

People are just going to have to get used to being wan color.

Some comedian said "Sending an Irishman to the beach is like putting tinfoil in a microwave." It's true enough, here.

851 prairiefire  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:01:19pm

We watched "The Blind Side" tonight. It was good. My favorite line, "Who knew we would have a black son before we knew a Democrat?"

852 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:01:30pm

re: #835 Decatur Deb

The Army Surgeon General had them blocked from installation morale/welfare operations more than a decade ago.

They're just as dangerous as the sun. Pretty soon we're going to mandate people wear an SPF40 when outside or pay a $50 fine. People in CA and FL are going to have to wear wide brimmed hats and long sleeves 11 months a year. If it saves just one life.....

853 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:01:43pm

re: #842 ryannon

That's because we'll all be dead in 2012.

Betting on that Mayan thing?

854 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:01:44pm

re: #838 NJDhockeyfan

I've noticed you have a peculiar obsession with Mandy.

Only to disguise my particular fixation on you.

855 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:03:39pm

re: #854 Cato the Elder

Only to disguise my particular fixation on you.

Hi Cato. Any interesting quips on Palin's campaign appearance with John McCain?

856 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:04:14pm

re: #845 Floral Giraffe

I'd ALMOST like to upding that, but not quite.

Oh ,, go ahead. We'll both feel better!

857 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:04:17pm

re: #851 prairiefire

We watched " Hachj":A dogs Tale!
Warning dog lovers...Have tissue!!

858 The Shadow Do  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:05:36pm

re: #700 windupbird

If only you guys looked this shit up instead of repeating talking points: [Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

Seriously. This is the internet. it isn't hard.

Have you or I had to pay out even 5 cents to Toyota? GM, Chrysler on the other hand...
Toyota needs to man up and dump some cash into Obama's coffers and pronto!

By the way, GM should have gone bankrupt the old fashioned way. They would be right where they are now and all the liability would have gone where it belonged, i.e. not me.

But we could not have that now could we, what would have happened to that Democrat golden goose, i.e. UAW. It is only right those guys are exempt, at least for now, from paying that awful fancy pants health insurance surcharge.

859 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:05:37pm

re: #847 bratwurst

So you go back and forth on free speech rights when using the word "nazi"? I don't see where I was trivializing mass murder by making a joke about a bad pope but do you really think jokes like that should be outlawed or am I misreading you?

860 cliffster  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:05:45pm

Lebron James looks pissed. Awww, poor superhuman

861 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:05:57pm

re: #857 reloadingisnotahobby

"Hachi"
Typing in the dark.....

862 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:06:01pm

4 Cato the Elder
Tue, Mar 23, 2010 11:33:20pm replyquote 0downupfavoritereport

Repeat post.

In advance of The Early Morning Wingnut Hour with your host, Mandy Mannerless, may I just say snot urps, I mean

SNIP
That is all ye need to read.

*********

Fuck you.

And, fuck your Prog buddies who critcized Walter for his refrerence to Ludwig.

863 ryannon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:06:20pm

re: #848 Killgore Trout

Oh, yeah. I forgot about the Death Panels and Cloward Piven. Damn, where's my apocalyptic seed bank?

Where's your Mayan Calendar?

864 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:06:22pm

re: #852 RogueOne

I do the SPF and hat thing, and I pay a lot more than $50 to a dermatologist at my semi-annual slash-and-burn.

865 prairiefire  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:06:28pm

re: #857 reloadingisnotahobby

I think that's the book my mother in law bought for my kids. It's set in Japan, right?

866 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:07:20pm

re: #864 Decatur Deb

I do the SPF and hat thing, and I pay a lot more than $50 to a dermatologist at my semi-annual slash-and-burn.

Sounds like my spouse. She's one of the whitest people you'll meet.

867 Lidane  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:07:28pm

re: #844 Cato the Elder

That's the original, which I've watched with pleasure.

Has about as much to do with Quentin's version as I have to do with the original Cato.

But that's entertainment!

;^)

I love the original. It's absolutely hilarious in a "so bad it's great" way. I especially loved the fight choreography and the scene with the Nazi chicks in the small grotto. That had me in stitches.

Quentin's version, on the other hand, was fantastic. My #2 film of last year, and one that I paid to see in the theaters three times. Definitely worth watching for anyone who hasn't seen it yet.

868 ryannon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:07:34pm

re: #853 Decatur Deb

Betting on that Mayan thing?

No way. I just invested in a 5-year CD.

869 cliffster  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:07:42pm

re: #862 MandyManners

yeah, it's a little creepy

870 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:08:11pm

re: #865 prairiefire

The book, yes!
The movie...USA

871 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:08:50pm

re: #826 RogueOne

There's still a chance 2 teams from Indiana could end up in Indy for the final 4.

That'd be cool.

872 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:08:52pm

CBO report: Debt will rise to 90% of GDP

President Obama's fiscal 2011 budget will generate nearly $10 trillion in cumulative budget deficits over the next 10 years, $1.2 trillion more than the administration projected, and raise the federal debt to 90 percent of the nation's economic output by 2020, the Congressional Budget Office reported Thursday.

In its 2011 budget, which the White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB) released Feb. 1, the administration projected a 10-year deficit total of $8.53 trillion. After looking it over, CBO said in its final analysis, released Thursday, that the president's budget would generate a combined $9.75 trillion in deficits over the next decade.

"An additional $1.2 trillion in debt dumped on [GDP] to our children makes a huge difference," said Brian Riedl, a budget analyst at the conservative Heritage Foundation. "That represents an additional debt of $10,000 per household above and beyond the federal debt they are already carrying."

The federal public debt, which was $6.3 trillion ($56,000 per household) when Mr. Obama entered office amid an economic crisis, totals $8.2 trillion ($72,000 per household) today, and it's headed toward $20.3 trillion (more than $170,000 per household) in 2020, according to CBO's deficit estimates.

873 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:08:56pm

re: #868 ryannon

No way. I just invested in a 5-year CD.

"At my age, I don't buy green bananas."
--Burt Reynolds

874 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:09:55pm

re: #869 cliffster

yeah, it's a little creepy

We zipped past "creepy" some time back, imho

point was made, action was taken

we need a new dead horse to beat

875 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:10:43pm

re: #872 NJDhockeyfan

CBO report: Debt will rise to 90% of GDP

Oh. Shit.

876 swamprat  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:11:28pm

re: #858 The Shadow Do


But we could not have that now could we, what would have happened to that Democrat golden goose, i.e. UAW. It is only right those guys are exempt, at least for now, from paying that awful fancy pants health insurance surcharge.


@###!!!

Missed the Motor City connection.


Da "Motor Men" connection, as it were.

877 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:11:36pm

re: #872 NJDhockeyfan

CBO report: Debt will rise to 90% of GDP

heh...you'll get zero response to that, except someone saying it's a GOP hatchet job

878 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:12:09pm

re: #872 NJDhockeyfan

CBO report: Debt will rise to 90% of GDP

This is where I came in...'Nite, all.

879 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:12:27pm

re: #872 NJDhockeyfan

A default is generally not too far behind. Oh s--- is right.

880 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:12:41pm

re: #828 bratwurst

I am not at all a fan of the man, and obviously the charges that have been made recently are truly sickening. However, it is unfair and wrong to call the man a Nazi because he was forced to join Hitler Youth as a child.

I agree with this in general, although I don't know that Ratzinger was necessarily 'forced' to join the Hitlerjugend.

Sophie and Hans Scholl were both 'leaders' in the Hiterjugend (of their own free will), and they were both executed as traitors when they realized that the Nazis were evil and ruinous, and decided to tell their fellow Germans so.

I think Ratzinger is far from being a paragon of benevolence, but I think calling him a Nazi is way out of line.

881 bratwurst  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:12:48pm

re: #859 RogueOne

So you go back and forth on free speech rights when using the word "nazi"? I don't see where I was trivializing mass murder by making a joke about a bad pope but do you really think jokes like that should be outlawed or am I misreading you?

I was not pointing to your comment so much as I was stating that one of the things I find obnoxious about having relocated back to the US is that more than a few people (on both extremes of the political spectrum I might add) feel free to call anyone they dislike or disagree with a "nazi". As I mentioned, I have mixed feelings about the law as it exists in Germany, but the fact it requires a slightly higher level of political discourse than we see in the US presently is at least a very pleasant side effect.

882 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:12:58pm

re: #877 albusteve

heh...you'll get zero response to that, except someone saying it's a GOP hatchet job

Not this a time, the CBO is non-partisan. What it says is clear: We either cut spending or we're fucked. It is that simple.

883 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:14:00pm

re: #882 Dark_Falcon

Not this a time, the CBO is non-partisan. What it says is clear: We either cut spending or we're fucked. It is that simple.

In that case, I hope Barack, Nancy and Harry get a move on and pass Stimulus Deax ASAP !!!

///

ggggeeeezzzzzzz

884 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:14:09pm

re: #879 Jetpilot1101

A default is generally not too far behind. Oh s--- is right.

notice when the subject of CA paying it's bills came up...the liberals here decided to go walk their poodles

885 cliffster  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:14:12pm

re: #872 NJDhockeyfan

Yeah, and I expect that report is rosier than the reality will be. "Rosy" is a poor choice of words.

886 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:14:15pm

re: #882 Dark_Falcon

Not this a time, the CBO is non-partisan. What it says is clear: We either cut spending or we're fucked. It is that simple.

Asking Congress to cut spending is like asking a whore to remain chaste.

We're f---ed.

887 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:14:26pm

re: #882 Dark_Falcon

No one with the SCISSORS CARES!!!

888 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:14:33pm

re: #881 bratwurst

Fair enough.

889 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:14:37pm

re: #615 Ericus58

FUCK THAT SHIT!

PABST BLUE RIBBON!!

890 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:15:43pm

re: #882 Dark_Falcon

Not this a time, the CBO is non-partisan. What it says is clear: We either cut spending or we're fucked. It is that simple.

What are the chances BO & the Dems will do the right thing? I'm thinking somewhere between slim & none. I predict lots more spending instead.

891 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:16:11pm

re: #874 sattv4u2

We zipped past "creepy" some time back, imho

point was made, action was taken

we need a new dead horse to beat

*neigh*


892 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:16:26pm

re: #875 Dark_Falcon

Oh. Shit.

And lest there be objections to Moonie reporting, here's the report on CBO's website. Well, it's a graph, with links to the report.

893 prairiefire  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:16:40pm

I'll say it. We need to cut spending. I think that the economy needs to come back to a plus 4% or more for three more quarters, first.
Spending will be cut.

894 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:16:50pm

re: #857 reloadingisnotahobby

We watched " Hachj":A dogs Tale!
Warning dog lovers...Have tissue!!

I own three separate books on Hachiko the Hero, the loyal Akita whose statue was melted down during WWII and later replaced; the place where lovers arrange to meet at Shibuya Station.

My own dog, Haku, was name after him and the eponymous character from the movie "Spirited Away" after he came to me as a stray, wounded puppy. The vets told me he was a Shiba Inu, the miniature cousin of Akitas.

It was only after he had grown to be 50% larger than any Shiba that I found out what he was. One day in Central Park, a Korean family asked me where I had gotten the perfect, beautiful Jindo.

"Jin-wha?", I asked.

Jindo, they said. The national dog of Korea.

And so it proved to be.

So Haku is a Korean dog with a Japanese name. Last weekend, I went to visit an old girlfriend in DC. When we visited her favorite local wineshop, the manager, a Japanese-Korean gent, was so taken with Haku that he wouldn't let us pay the bill.

I don't know yet whether I can stand to watch that movie. The French call dogs "les bêtes de chagrin", because we bond with them like people and yet they die usually long before we do.

895 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:17:01pm

re: #875 Dark_Falcon

Oh. Shit.

Let's blather about violence and the like.

896 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:17:22pm

re: #890 NJDhockeyfan

What are the chances BO & the Dems will do the right thing? I'm thinking somewhere between slim & none. I predict lots more spending instead.

Hopefully the situation will be partially taken out of their hands come November.

897 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:17:32pm

re: #890 NJDhockeyfan

What are the chances BO & the Dems will do the right thing? I'm thinking somewhere between slim & none. I predict lots more spending instead.

Just think, if they devalue the currency enough and people start getting paid more because the dollar is worthless, eventually we'll all hit the $200K or $250K "rich" level and then they can tax the crap out of us.

898 Lidane  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:17:46pm

re: #882 Dark_Falcon

Not this a time, the CBO is non-partisan. What it says is clear: We either cut spending or we're fucked. It is that simple.

If we were really serious about cutting spending, though, we'd not only have to go after the big guns like Social Security and Medicare, but we'd also have to dig into the other big tickets, like defense spending, agriculture subsidies and corporate welfare. I don't see that happening at all in my lifetime.

We'd also have to be honest about what we're spending instead of putting so much stuff off the books and not taking it into account. I don't see that happening either.

*sigh*

899 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:18:14pm

re: #879 Jetpilot1101

A default is generally not too far behind. Oh s--- is right.

They were saying on NPR this afternoon that Treasury bonds were selling worse than some corporate bonds. I, too, feel the loosening of my nether muscles...

900 cliffster  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:18:15pm

re: #893 prairiefire

I'll say it. We need to cut spending. I think that the economy needs to come back to a plus 4% or more for three more quarters, first.
Spending will be cut.

Probably. The GOP will probably win back at least on chamber, and create some of the deadlock that gave us a balanced budget last time.

901 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:18:23pm

re: #895 MandyManners

Let's blather about violence and the like.

I'd rather talk about your sex life. You did bring it up, after all.

902 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:18:25pm

re: #882 Dark_Falcon

Not this a time, the CBO is non-partisan. What it says is clear: We either cut spending or we're fucked. It is that simple.

people won't believe it...just like the IRS employee thing...too many people in this country live in some sort of political dreamworld...living on the net and in TV land...ask them how IL is going to sort out their problems and all they do is drool and tell you how complicated it is...America is no longer a country of solutions...we have become a country of blog headed TV junkies that just are not down where the rubber hits the road

903 jaunte  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:18:33pm

re: #893 prairiefire

I'll say it. We need to cut spending. I think that the economy needs to come back to a plus 4% or more for three more quarters, first.
Spending will be cut.

The history of Paygo is an interesting study in how Congress can speak from both sides of the mouth on spending:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

904 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:18:41pm

re: #893 prairiefire

I'll say it. We need to cut spending. I think that the economy needs to come back to a plus 4% or more for three more quarters, first.
Spending will be cut.

Problem is, the people in charge right now really truly believe that the gov't and only the gov't can and should spend to stimulate the economy

905 prairiefire  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:18:45pm

re: #894 Cato the Elder

"Spirited Away" is a very good movie. I feel fortunate to dream stories like that most of the time.

906 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:19:14pm

re: #894 Cato the Elder

Ok, I'm being silly, but...

907 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:19:40pm

re: #901 Cato the Elder

I'd rather talk about your sex life. You did bring it up, after all.

When she said "Fuck You" that wasn't flirting, you know!

908 prairiefire  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:20:18pm

re: #904 sattv4u2

I think that Obama has been strongly encouraging the banks to start lending again so that small businesses can grow. He is a capitalist.

909 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:20:25pm

re: #896 Dark_Falcon

Hopefully the situation will be partially taken out of their hands come November.

It's too late. Trillion is the new billion.

910 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:21:17pm

re: #908 prairiefire

I think that Obama has been strongly encouraging the banks to start lending again so that small businesses can grow. He is a capitalist.

Too bad no one is listening to him. Bank loans were down 35% last month. Banks are waiting for the other shoes to drop.

911 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:21:33pm

re: #897 Jetpilot1101

Just think, if they devalue the currency enough and people start getting paid more because the dollar is worthless, eventually we'll all hit the $200K or $250K "rich" level and then they can tax the crap out of us.

The way we are spending & raising out debt we may give the value of the Zimbabwe dollar a run for it's money.

912 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:21:38pm

re: #901 Cato the Elder

And what, exactly, is your objection to the stalker blogs...?

913 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:21:42pm

re: #894 Cato the Elder

It was tough!
Could have picked a better costar than R.Geere..INHO!
I'm driving up to the big city tomorrow to get a playmate (Aussie)
for our 50lb bouncing baby tornado...Maybe my arms and hands can heal!

914 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:22:00pm

Tie game again

915 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:22:09pm

re: #908 prairiefire

I think that Obama has been strongly encouraging the banks to start lending again so that small businesses can grow. He is a capitalist.

He is doing what his advisers tell him to do.
I don't give him the credit of being a capitalist.

916 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:22:42pm

re: #910 RogueOne

Too bad no one is listening to him. Bank loans were down 35% last month. Banks are waiting for the other shoes to drop.

Right. Taxes and regulation they can cope with, but uncertainty is the business-killer these days.

917 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:22:58pm

re: #908 prairiefire

I think that Obama has been strongly encouraging the banks to start lending again so that small businesses can grow. He is a capitalist.

On the one hand he's pushing them to lend, yet on the other he's making the ones that would normally be looking for loans (big and small business) skittish about expanding due to the (up to now) uncertainty of how much the health bill will cost them and if/ when cap and trade is coming

918 jaunte  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:23:15pm

re: #905 prairiefire

"Spirited Away" is a very good movie. I feel fortunate to dream stories like that most of the time.


A New Zealander built a model train inspired by the one in 'Spirited Away', running up to its axles in water:
[Link: www.carendt.us...]

919 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:23:25pm

re: #915 Floral Giraffe

He is doing what his advisers tell him to do.
I don't give him the credit of being a capitalist.

Is that some kind of bizarre joke?

920 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:23:33pm

re: #916 The Sanity Inspector

gmta (917)

921 ryannon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:23:37pm

re: #897 Jetpilot1101

Just think, if they devalue the currency enough and people start getting paid more because the dollar is worthless, eventually we'll all hit the $200K or $250K "rich" level and then they can tax the crap out of us.

I see a shining future for you as Secretary of the Treasury.

922 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:23:45pm

re: #915 Floral Giraffe

He is doing what his advisers tell him to do.
I don't give him the credit of being a capitalist.

BO is a baffoon...even he doesn't know what he is at this level of governance...let him eat his waffle

923 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:24:01pm

re: #912 The Sanity Inspector

And what, exactly, is your objection to the stalker blogs...?

Oh, SNAP!

924 MandyManners  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:24:37pm
925 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:24:51pm

re: #916 The Sanity Inspector

Right. Taxes and regulation they can cope with, but uncertainty is the business-killer these days.

one step at a time comrade...
two words...
food production

926 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:25:00pm

re: #911 NJDhockeyfan

The way we are spending & raising out debt we may give the value of the Zimbabwe dollar a run for it's money.

I know that buying gold gets a bad rap here but it does serve as a decent hedge to rampant spending and runaway government debt. My personal favorite is 10 ounce silver bars but then again, I like the volatility. I'm not telling folks to go all Glenn Beck, but a few well placed investments in precious metals now could net huge rewards in the near future if the government continues down the current path.

927 The Shadow Do  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:25:04pm

re: #908 prairiefire

I think that Obama has been strongly encouraging the banks to start lending again so that small businesses can grow. He is a capitalist.

Easy to talk the talk. Why in world would any bank take risk in this environment.

928 Altermite  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:25:22pm

.re: #862 MandyManners

4 Cato the Elder
Walter
Ludwig.

Oh dear. You four are like a string quartet. Only instead of music and violins, we get petty bickering and name-calling.

929 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:25:36pm

re: #315 KingKenrod

"24" has been canceled.

I never watched it. Not one single episode.

Me neither.

What's WRONG with us?

930 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:25:59pm

re: #922 albusteve

You want him to eat Bill Clinton? (Image of clinton as a waffle (from doonesbury) sadly too hard to find, but I said it anwyays!)

931 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:26:07pm

re: #929 SanFranciscoZionist

Me neither.

What's WRONG with us?

Make that three!
(nor have I ever seen LOST)

932 prairiefire  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:26:30pm

re: #927 The Shadow Do

Because GDP is coming back up. Also, the market is going back up.

933 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:26:31pm

re: #924 MandyManners

man I thought we cured you of that habit.

Nice nonsequiter appeal to patriotism!

934 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:26:36pm

re: #928 Altermite

.

Oh dear. You four are like a string quartet. Only instead of music and violins, we get petty bickering and name-calling.

Except, that you quoted only three?

935 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:26:51pm

re: #927 The Shadow Do

Easy to talk the talk. Why in world would any bank take risk in this environment.

Not to mention a business taking out a loan in this environment

936 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:26:55pm

re: #928 Altermite

.

Oh dear. You four are like a string quartet. Only instead of music and violins, we get petty bickering and name-calling.

And what petty bickering have I been doing... ?

937 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:27:09pm

re: #932 prairiefire

Per my dad, who owns a temp company and a recruiting company, things are picking up there too (it always goes first wiht the temps, apparently)

938 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:27:17pm

re: #934 Floral Giraffe

Except, that you quoted only three?

He's including Mandy, I beleive

939 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:27:19pm

re: #917 sattv4u2

On the one hand he's pushing them to lend, yet on the other he's making the ones that would normally be looking for loans (big and small business) skittish about expanding due to the (up to now) uncertainty of how much the health bill will cost them and if/ when cap and trade is coming

yes, take on more debt...and the feds control the banking system...sounds like servitude to me, but I'm a revolting reactionary who mistrusts the Holy Feds

940 prairiefire  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:27:53pm

re: #918 jaunte

Thanks, I'll show that to my daughter. She is so proud to be Japanese like the wonderful Mr. Miyazaki.

941 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:27:54pm

re: #936 Walter L. Newton

And what petty bickering have I been doing... ?

I was also going to mention that

942 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:27:55pm

re: #928 Altermite

.

Oh dear. You four are like a string quartet. Only instead of music and violins, we get petty bickering and name-calling.

And I just got finished watching "Death to Smoochy" and it was funny and I'm in a good mood, so I don't need to listen to your fucking snide comments.

943 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:28:27pm

re: #942 Walter L. Newton

Will you listen to mine? My second dose of Vicodin just kicked in :D

944 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:28:45pm

Did I just get here in time for a pissing match? Great...

945 austin_blue  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:29:12pm

re: #872 NJDhockeyfan

CBO report: Debt will rise to 90% of GDP

The important bit of that was that was that the debt was already $56,000 when he entered office. When Clinton *left* office, debt was being drawn down significantly.

Remember Bush's three dollar bills that he held up during the 2000 campaign? He said that one would be used for debt reduction and one would be used for tax decreases. All three were chewed up by the war in Iraq and the race was on for increased deficits because no one was paying for the war. Match that with the lack of oversight on derivatives and it was at was a perfect storm of economic disaster waiting for the new Prex.

Remember this?

Image: madcover.jpg

Word!

946 jaunte  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:29:12pm

re: #944 Cannadian Club Akbar

We're just getting the ropes laid out now.

947 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:29:22pm

re: #862 MandyManners

Fuck you.

And, fuck your Prog buddies who critcized Walter for his refrerence to Ludwig.

My, my. Literate and witty as always.

You do know that "prog" or, more fully, "totalitarian progressive Stalinist Nazi fascist chihuahua", is what your soulmates over at Deuce call Charles these days, don't you?

Given your recent demonstrative hug of wounded stalker hearts like Rose's, one would think you'd want to bugger off from here and go join them.

But then, your strategy (if I may confuse tactics with intelligence for the moment) is to stay on here and walk repeatedly right up to the edge, daring Charles to ban you, so the whinge-force you ultimately take from here will be all the greater.

Am I wrong, Mandy?

I mean, Ms. Manners?

You can call me Daddy.

948 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:29:24pm

re: #944 Cannadian Club Akbar

theres ALWAYS a pisisng match, except like at midnight :P

949 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:29:34pm

re: #902 albusteve

people won't believe it...just like the IRS employee thing...too many people in this country live in some sort of political dreamworld...living on the net and in TV land...ask them how IL is going to sort out their problems and all they do is drool and tell you how complicated it is...America is no longer a country of solutions...we have become a country of blog headed TV junkies that just are not down where the rubber hits the road

And the thing is, when it hits it'll probably be in a way we didn't see coming. Who could've predicted that the default crisis last year would result in the banks of Iceland collapsing, for example?

A thing long expected takes the form of the unexpected when at last it comes.
-- Mark Twain

950 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:29:34pm

re: #942 Walter L. Newton

And I just got finished watching "Death to Smoochy" and it was funny and I'm in a good mood, so I don't need to listen to your fucking snide comments.

I loved that movie, too. Robin Williams gave a hilarious performance, and Ed Norton took a sappy character and made him likable.

951 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:29:36pm

re: #929 SanFranciscoZionist

Me neither.

What's WRONG with us?

I have also never seen "24". But I do watch "House" and "Lost", and in both cases I make all sorts of excuses for plot holes and discontinuities. Can I still join your club?

952 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:29:43pm

re: #932 prairiefire

Because GDP is coming back up. Also, the market is going back up.

Take a good long look at P/E rations on the companies comprising the S&P 500 and you will find those companies so grossly overvalued it's sickening. The market may be going up but there is nothing behind it. There is another shoe out there and it's going to be dropping shortly.

953 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:29:51pm

re: #943 windsagio

Will you listen to mine? My second dose of Vicodin just kicked in :D

You're making me jealous.

What is this bullshit anyway... I'm gone three hours, have supper and then watch "Death to Smoochy" with the family and I come back to Altermite making some shitting comment about me... what's that all about?

954 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:29:55pm

re: #944 Cannadian Club Akbar

It's ALWAYS just time for the pissing match, on LGF!
DO you use sticky traps?
*eyes CCA warily*

955 austin_blue  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:30:03pm

re: #916 The Sanity Inspector

Right. Taxes and regulation they can cope with, but uncertainty is the business-killer these days.

Didn't stop 'em in 2007...

956 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:30:26pm

re: #937 windsagio

Per my dad, who owns a temp company and a recruiting company, things are picking up there too (it always goes first wiht the temps, apparently)

His business is about to pick up more. More companies will toss off full-time employees for temps letting someone else worry about the insurance, taxes, and paperwork.

957 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:30:40pm

re: #947 Cato the Elder

Actually I think you're wrong, btw.

Its not that she's trying to prove something, but rather that her life is so empty that she needs the community that this blog represents. Thats why she always pulls back from the brink at the lats second.

958 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:30:58pm

re: #926 Jetpilot1101

I know that buying gold gets a bad rap here but it does serve as a decent hedge to rampant spending and runaway government debt. My personal favorite is 10 ounce silver bars but then again, I like the volatility. I'm not telling folks to go all Glenn Beck, but a few well placed investments in precious metals now could net huge rewards in the near future if the government continues down the current path.

Beck is selling paper gold...futures...and people here get all twisted about the difference between that and actually owning precious metals or gems...it's totally phony and they sound like idiots to me....sorry folks!, you know who you are!...probably broke yourselves?...even Charles has a great investment in rare comics, but he doesn't take any heat from the minions

959 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:31:04pm

US, British, French troops to march on Red Squarere: #945 austin_blue

Again....it's Bush's Fault™.

960 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:31:13pm

re: #950 Dark_Falcon

I loved that movie, too. Robin Williams gave a hilarious performance, and Ed Norton took a sappy character and made him likable.

My first thought when I saw the character, I said "that needs to be Adam Sandler."

961 darthstar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:31:15pm

re: #937 windsagio

Per my dad, who owns a temp company and a recruiting company, things are picking up there too (it always goes first wiht the temps, apparently)

I finally hired a new engineer...recruiter sucked...lied about her salary...trying to get us to go 115...when I talked to her on the phone, her salary was a bit less than that, but she'll still do fine with the options & benefits we offer. I'm kind of excited...she seems to know her shit (a change from most of the candidates I've gotten)...but this will be the last time I take someone from this recruiter...they're assholes.

962 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:31:33pm

re: #953 Walter L. Newton

You're too high visibility. And you get in fights with both sides, so that too. :p

963 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:31:40pm

re: #954 Floral Giraffe

It's ALWAYS just time for the pissing match, on LGF!
DO you use sticky traps?
*eyes CCA warily*

No. A bat or a car. And after last nights "deed" was done, Shadow worried about his karma. I told him he'd hit the top 10. I was right!!

964 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:31:53pm

fuck your Prog buddies

Wait, what?

965 darthstar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:32:00pm

Watching "Justified" right now on FX...pretty good show. Caught half an episode last week.

966 The Shadow Do  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:32:01pm

re: #932 prairiefire

Because GDP is coming back up. Also, the market is going back up.

A house of cards, if you are not sitting tight you are not comfortable.

967 ryannon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:32:11pm

re: #925 albusteve

one step at a time comrade...
two words...
food production

IOWA AND KANSAS: ONE BIG KOLKHOZ!

968 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:32:36pm

re: #933 windsagio

man I thought we cured you of that habit.

Nice nonsequiter appeal to patriotism!

you?...we?...hahaha!.....get over yourself

969 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:32:44pm

re: #958 albusteve

If it doesn't go clink in your hand, it's worthless. My safe gets a bit more full of the real stuff every month.

970 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:32:48pm

re: #962 windsagio

You're too high visibility. And you get in fights with both sides, so that too. :p

I don't mind "fighting" with anyone, either side, but I certainly like to be in attendance when it happens :)

971 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:32:57pm

re: #947 Cato the Elder

Suggesting that Mandy flounce earns a downding. That's not right, Cato.

And Mandy, you should not be calling him a "prog". Cato is far more connected to reality and solution oriented than any progressive.

972 bratwurst  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:33:01pm

re: #964 negativ

Yet another reason I am proud to be prog!

973 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:33:05pm

re: #961 darthstar

Lol die :p


Actually I admit, alot of them are worthless. Some (like ours) are good tho! I swear, and I"m not prejudiced at all!!!

Of course we mainly put navy guys into junior management or nuke jobs.

974 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:33:18pm

re: #412 Cato the Elder

I like all dogs. I even like the little yappy ones actresses carry around in their shamefully overpriced Louis Vuitton bags.

Haku has literally (in the literal sense) saved my life more times than I can count.

Of course, the yappers over at Deuce have figured out that I'm neither physically impaired, nor blind, nor deaf. So they make jokes about me being a fake handicapped welfare scrounger.

There are medical service dogs these days for everything from epilepsy to trollophobia. I'll continue to leave it to them to speculate about Haku.

"I'm in an iron lung. The dog keeps me away from large magnets."

"I'm color-blind. The dog lets me know when it's safe to cross the street."

(Jodi Picoult character--he doesn't tell people what his disability is, so has a plentiful stream of one-liners about his service dog.)

"I'm a recovering alcoholic. The dog is trained to get between me and a cold beer."

975 cliffster  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:33:22pm

re: #945 austin_blue

That well ran dry a long time ago. Sorry

976 swamprat  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:33:34pm

re: #933 windsagio


Psst.
It's ok to be patriotic.

now
977 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:33:49pm

re: #970 Walter L. Newton

Fair enough :D Its no fun if you're not there :P

978 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:34:16pm

re: #955 austin_blue

Didn't stop 'em in 2007...

how about let's live in the here and now?...play the cards we've been dealt...what a novel concept

979 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:34:42pm

re: #976 swamprat

You missed the point. I'd challenge anyone on this blog to say the ydon't like the US.

The problem is she's trying to gain emotional leverage by linking to a song that everyone 'should' like. Its petty and manipulative.

980 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:34:57pm

re: #974 SanFranciscoZionist

"I'm in an iron lung. The dog keeps me away from large magnets."

"I'm color-blind. The dog lets me know when it's safe to cross the street."

(Jodi Picoult character--he doesn't tell people what his disability is, so has a plentiful stream of one-liners about his service dog.)

"I'm a recovering alcoholic. The dog is trained to get between me and a cold beer."

I'm co-dependent. The dog gets between me and emos.

I'm allergic to cats...

That would be a fun game.

981 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:35:05pm

re: #960 Walter L. Newton

My first thought when I saw the character, I said "that needs to be Adam Sandler."

I'm not sure about that. He's strikes me as more of a lout than a sap. Just my opinion.

982 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:35:09pm

re: #969 Jetpilot1101

If it doesn't go clink in your hand, it's worthless. My safe gets a bit more full of the real stuff every month.

well there you have it....and somehow you will be resoundly ridiculed for collecting wealth

983 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:35:17pm

re: #969 Jetpilot1101

My "Bling" is ..ah...Brass,copper and lead! ;-)
It's what I do.....

984 ryannon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:35:24pm

re: #932 prairiefire

Because GDP is coming back up. Also, the market is going back up.

And crash again.

And go up again.

Buy on the dips and sell on the peaks, get rich quick.

985 darthstar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:35:50pm

re: #983 reloadingisnotahobby

My "Bling" is ..ah...Brass,copper and lead! ;-)
It's what I do...

You sell dildos?

986 cliffster  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:36:23pm

re: #979 windsagio

You missed the point. I'd challenge anyone on this blog to say the ydon't like the US.

The problem is she's trying to gain emotional leverage by linking to a song that everyone 'should' like. Its petty and manipulative.

Petty and manipulative to link to God Bless the USA... right...

987 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:36:37pm

re: #967 ryannon

IOWA AND KANSAS: ONE BIG KOLKHOZ!

yes, see water rights in CA and the Yuma valley

988 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:36:38pm

re: #985 darthstar

I'm no expert, but a lead dildo seems like ALL KINDS OF BAD NEWS!

989 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:36:41pm

re: #985 darthstar

You sell dildos?

Exactly what kind of woman have you dated?
/

990 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:37:02pm

re: #439 austin_blue

We're paying now every time someone goes to the ER because they have no GP because they can't afford insurance. It sucks.

Plus, the poor schmo who can't pay gets hounded by collection people, and THEN we pay. Very inefficient.

991 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:37:11pm

re: #947 Cato the Elder

But then, your strategy (if I may confuse tactics with intelligence for the moment) is to stay on here and walk repeatedly right up to the edge, daring Charles to ban you, so the whinge-force you ultimately take from here will be all the greater.

And what of your "stratergy"

Step 1) make sure there are several of you involved in this

Step 2) Isolate her by claiming if anyone agreed that she had the right to her avatar (until Charles said no-no) that they must be in agreement that its okay to piss on Islam

Step 2) poison the well by repeatedly denouncing her while she is not here

Step 3) Harass her until she cries UNCLE and leaves al a Sharm?


You got what you wanted. She changed her offensive avatar. Go back to you Palin rants. At least they are on occasion glib!

((and I'm sure I must have made some spelling or grammatical errors in the above so you can trash me too!!)

992 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:37:14pm

and, of course it works :p


re: #986 cliffster


^case in point.

993 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:37:27pm

re: #988 windsagio

I'm no expert, but a lead dildo seems like ALL KINDS OF BAD NEWS!

And if is from China, double bad!!!

994 austin_blue  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:37:29pm

re: #975 cliffster

That well ran dry a long time ago. Sorry


All that means is that you can't intelligently refute the facts.

Fail.

995 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:38:03pm

re: #993 Cannadian Club Akbar

Lead coated with Melamine?

/ok that makes no sense.

996 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:38:11pm

re: #981 Dark_Falcon

I'm not sure about that. He's strikes me as more of a lout than a sap. Just my opinion.

Death to Smoochy

This was the first time I ever saw the movie... I thought the first 40 minutes or so were slow in getting started, took a while to establish the characters and the comic rhythm, but when it finally got going the tempo was good.

The only thing missing was I wanted to see more little munchkins getting smacked around.

But any movie that has a dozen dwarfs has to be funny.

997 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:38:21pm

re: #418 avanti

Why do some conservatives keep wanting to amend the constitution they so love ? Here's a proposal for one dealing with health care :

" THE FEDERALISM RESTORATION AMENDMENT
The legislative power of Congress shall not be construed to include mandating, regulating, prohibiting or taxing the private health insurance of any person; nor shall the power of Congress to make all laws which are necessary and proper to regulate commerce among the several states be construed to include the power to mandate, regulate, prohibit or tax any activity that is confined within a single state and subject to the police power thereof, regardless of the activity’s economic effects outside the state, whether it employs instrumentalities therefrom, or whether its regulation or prohibition is part of a comprehensive federal regulatory scheme."

This is starting to look like one of those old cartoons where the guy destroys his house trying to swat a fly, innit?

998 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:38:45pm

re: #991 sattv4u2

But then, your strategy (if I may confuse tactics with intelligence for the moment) is to stay on here and walk repeatedly right up to the edge, daring Charles to ban you, so the whinge-force you ultimately take from here will be all the greater.

And what of your "stratergy"

Step 1) make sure there are several of you involved in this

Step 2) Isolate her by claiming if anyone agreed that she had the right to her avatar (until Charles said no-no) that they must be in agreement that its okay to piss on Islam

Step 2) poison the well by repeatedly denouncing her while she is not here

Step 3) Harass her until she cries UNCLE and leaves al a Sharm?

You got what you wanted. She changed her offensive avatar. Go back to you Palin rants. At least they are on occasion glib!

((and I'm sure I must have made some spelling or grammatical errors in the above so you can trash me too!!)

Agreed. Cato, you have your victory. Leave well enough alone.

999 darthstar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:38:55pm

re: #995 windsagio

Lead coated with Melamine?

/ok that makes no sense.

Oh, crap...I went and changed the subject again, didn't I?

1000 The Shadow Do  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:39:16pm

re: #963 Cannadian Club Akbar

No. A bat or a car. And after last nights "deed" was done, Shadow worried about his karma. I told him he'd hit the top 10. I was right!!

I was worried about my personal karma, though LGF karma is important too, I spose...

/it only gets worse. After last nights fiasco with the rat I found a very small dead bunny rabbit by my garage this morning while taking out Mr Rodent to his final resting place. Put em both in the same hole. They are species related no? I'm screwed. I know it.

1001 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:39:20pm

re: #996 Walter L. Newton

Death to Smoochy

This was the first time I ever saw the movie... I thought the first 40 minutes or so were slow in getting started, took a while to establish the characters and the comic rhythm, but when it finally got going the tempo was good.

The only thing missing was I wanted to see more little munchkins getting smacked around.

But any movie that has a dozen dwarfs has to be funny.

Let me guess: Wizard of Oz fan?

1002 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:39:25pm

re: #999 darthstar

Not really, fear my multitasking abilities!!!!

PS: Command & Conquer 4 is awesome!!!

1003 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:39:31pm

re: #998 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. Cato, you have your victory. Leave well enough alone.

Thanks ,,, sorry ,, but I've been watching this for a few weeks, and I'm just sick of it

1004 wee fury  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:39:32pm

re: #990 SanFranciscoZionist

Plus, the poor schmo who can't pay gets hounded by collection people, and THEN we pay. Very inefficient.

If a person cannot afford to pay their hospital costs immediately . . . the hospital will set up a reasonable payment plan. It took my Uncle over 20 years to pay off his family medical bill at Mayo Clinic. But, he did it.

1005 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:39:37pm

re: #985 darthstar

No...
But I did model for a manufacturer.....;-)

1006 darthstar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:40:20pm

re: #1005 reloadingisnotahobby

No...
But I did model for a manufacturer...;-)

That explains Barbie's accessories. :)

1007 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:40:35pm

re: #1005 reloadingisnotahobby

No...
But I did model for a manufacturer...;-)

woah trippy!

1008 wee fury  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:40:39pm

re: #1000 The Shadow Do

I was worried about my personal karma, though LGF karma is important too, I spose...

/it only gets worse. After last nights fiasco with the rat I found a very small dead bunny rabbit by my garage this morning while taking out Mr Rodent to his final resting place. Put em both in the same hole. They are species related no? I'm screwed. I know it.

Think of it as a Romeo and Juliet affair.

1009 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:40:43pm

re: #998 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. Cato, you have your victory. Leave well enough alone.

I love Cato...why?...because he doesn't give a shit if he's a stalker or not, while condemning stalkers from other blogs....you just half to love a guy with nads that size....it's a man's world eh?

1010 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:40:49pm

re: #501 Varek Raith

I'm somewhat confused... Is the CBO to be trusted or not???

Depends. Do they they agree with the outcome you had in mind?

1011 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:41:07pm

re: #997 SanFranciscoZionist

This is starting to look like one of those old cartoons where the guy destroys his house trying to swat a fly, innit?

Yeah. An old term for that used to be to call someone a "Barn Burner", after the legend of a crazed Dutch farmer who burned down his barn to rid it of rats.

1012 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:41:09pm

re: #996 Walter L. Newton

Sorry!
Snow White was NOT funny!!
LOL

1013 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:41:15pm

re: #991 sattv4u2

1. I wouldn't waste my time trashing solecisms from you.

2. Sharm left because Charles mentioned in the NYT that he has a real-life fiancée.

3. As you should know, I'll take on Mandy whether she's here or not. Her piss-God avatar has nothing to do with it.

1014 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:41:40pm

re: #1009 albusteve

And I love you, in comparison because I have no idea if you actually believe the crap you spew (and are insane) or are just trolling.

The inprecision makes it spicy!!

1015 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:41:49pm

re: #1001 Dark_Falcon

Let me guess: Wizard of Oz fan?

Well, yes, but I was referring to the kids getting smacked around. When you have that many kids in a movie, some of them deserve to get smacked around. It's cheap humor, but always good for a laugh.

1016 prairiefire  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:41:59pm

re: #1000 The Shadow Do

How did you do the deed, Shadow?

1017 darthstar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:42:19pm

Okay kids...short stay this time...play nice now.

1018 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:42:37pm

re: #1013 Cato the Elder

Is Sharmuta coming back or is she gone for good?

1019 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:42:40pm

re: #993 Cannadian Club Akbar

And if is from China, double bad!!!

Aww, come on. I thought everyone enjoyed melamine dildos. :(

1020 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:43:01pm

re: #1001 Dark_Falcon

Let me guess: Wizard of Oz fan?

Visions of migits swinging from the chandaliers!

1021 cliffster  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:43:08pm

re: #1014 windsagio

And I love you, in comparison because I have no idea if you actually believe the crap you spew (and are insane) or are just trolling.

The inprecision makes it spicy!!

You guys need to get a room

1022 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:43:18pm

re: #1017 darthstar

pff people alwyas say that :P

You know you love the rough stuff >>

1023 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:43:22pm

re: #1014 windsagio

And I love you, in comparison because I have no idea if you actually believe the crap you spew (and are insane) or are just trolling.

The inprecision makes it spicy!!

please...go away....Cato and I have fought for years

1024 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:43:25pm

re: #1013 Cato the Elder

1. I wouldn't waste my time trashing solecisms from you.

2. Sharm left because Charles mentioned in the NYT that he has a real-life fiancée.

3. As you should know, I'll take on Mandy whether she's here or not. Her piss-God avatar has nothing to do with it.

Ah ,,, but you have in the past

Inconsistent, mindless, or sloppy?

1025 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:43:36pm

re: #1021 cliffster

Oh man, I'd do him so hard, he wouldn't be able to sit for a week~!!

1026 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:43:39pm

re: #518 TheMatrix31

Well, I fucking hope so. I'd be pissed if EVERYBODY'S opinion started to sour. Getting us into this fucking mess then backing off once realizing the story the guy sold was abso-fuckin-lute bullshit.

I wanted Hillary. My opinion of Obama is actually somewhat better now than it was when he took office.

Granted, when he took office, I was sobbing, and wailing, "Oh, God, Hillary, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN YOU!!!" and passing out periodically, but I have sort of gotten used to seeing the guy sitting at her desk.

1027 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:44:01pm

re: #1018 Jetpilot1101

Is Sharmuta coming back or is she gone for good?

How the hell would I know? I took no part in that sad drama, except now and then calling her what she was, a sycophant.

1028 austin_blue  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:44:01pm

re: #1004 wee fury

If a person cannot afford to pay their hospital costs immediately . . . the hospital will set up a reasonable payment plan. It took my Uncle over 20 years to pay off his family medical bill at Mayo Clinic. But, he did it.

Not any more. They will willingly bankrupt you, these days.

1029 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:44:08pm

re: #1023 albusteve

lolno

1030 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:44:16pm

re: #1012 reloadingisnotahobby

Sorry!
Snow White was NOT funny!!
LOL

Really? A movie that has a woman who looks like Miss America hanging around cast rejects from "A Pocket Full of Miracles." That's funny.

1031 bratwurst  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:44:16pm

re: #1009 albusteve

I love Cato...why?...because he doesn't give a shit if he's a stalker or not, while condemning stalkers from other blogs...you just half to love a guy with nads that size...it's a man's world eh?

Sorta like a guy who prides himself on never giving an apology here, but asked LVQ for one last night, eh?

1032 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:44:24pm

re: #1018 Jetpilot1101

Is Sharmuta coming back or is she gone for good?

She has not been banned, but I doubt she'll be back. Some stuff she wanted to hide got revealed here, and that kind of thing is not forgiven easily.

1033 cliffster  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:45:54pm

re: #1025 windsagio

Oh man, I'd do him so hard, he wouldn't be able to sit for a week~!!

That's not at all creepy. Nope, not one bit

1034 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:46:08pm

re: #1032 Dark_Falcon

She has not been banned, but I doubt she'll be back. Some stuff she wanted to hide got revealed here, and that kind of thing is not forgiven easily.

Well that is a sad bit of news. I enjoyed her comments.

1035 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:46:19pm

Good night, all.
Be nice, or be REALLY mean.
Cato, this includes you!
The rest of you, are included.
Sort yourselves out & whack away!

1036 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:46:33pm

re: #1027 Cato the Elder

How the hell would I know? I took no part in that sad drama, except now and then calling her what she was, a sycophant.

Cato!...I'm outa peanut butter again....chop chop!

1037 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:47:01pm

re: #1025 windsagio

Oh man, I'd do him so hard, he wouldn't be able to sit for a week~!!

Ok... put the codeine down and step away from the keyboard.

1038 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:47:04pm

re: #1033 cliffster

Oh you, you're such a fuddy-duddy :p

1039 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:47:05pm

'sup friendlies?

1040 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:47:36pm

re: #1037 Walter L. Newton

Pff I would have thought that was funny if I hadn't touched the stuff. Steve is fun to freak out.

1041 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:48:08pm

re: #1031 bratwurst

Sorta like a guy who prides himself on never giving an apology here, but asked LVQ for one last night, eh?

I don't need to apologize to people...that's the difference, and LVQ is not an issue with you...myob

1042 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:48:13pm

re: #1039 Stanley Sea

I may or may not be high!

1043 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:48:18pm

re: #1037 Walter L. Newton

Ok... put the codeine down and step away from the keyboard.

Still snowin' there?

1044 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:48:33pm

re: #1042 windsagio

high.

1045 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:48:34pm

re: #1039 Stanley Sea

'sup friendlies?

Things are kind of ugly tonight. Tensions here are running high.

1046 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:48:50pm

re: #1040 windsagio

Pff I would have thought that was funny if I hadn't touched the stuff. Steve is fun to freak out.

Steve's my friend, be nice to him. We talk on the phone. He's one of the most honest guys I know.

1047 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:48:57pm

re: #998 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. Cato, you have your victory. Leave well enough alone.

Don't waste your breath. He has become a psychotic stalker.

1048 bratwurst  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:49:20pm

re: #1041 albusteve

I don't need to apologize to people...that's the difference, and LVQ is not an issue with you...myob

Got it, boss.

1049 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:49:37pm

re: #1040 windsagio

Pff I would have thought that was funny if I hadn't touched the stuff. Steve is fun to freak out.

You really think YOU freak Steve out? ,,, really??

1050 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:49:58pm

re: #1040 windsagio

Pff I would have thought that was funny if I hadn't touched the stuff. Steve is fun to freak out.

except I don't...go stalk somebody else

1051 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:50:02pm

re: #1043 sattv4u2

Still snowin' there?

Not right now, stopped a few hours ago, only got about 3 inches, they were expecting a foot, but I think it all went further south than expected. But, not over yet, storm warning up till tomorrow, we'll see.

1052 austin_blue  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:50:08pm

Night all, I'm back at work tomorrow on my own time. You would never guess I worked for a Gubmint entity, would ya? Budget cuts all over the place. Just happy to ensure my relevance as a first responder.

1053 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:50:20pm

re: #1045 Dark_Falcon

Things are kind of ugly tonight. Tensions here are running high.

So, same ole same ole.

1054 cliffster  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:50:28pm

re: #1038 windsagio

Oh you, you're such a fuddy-duddy :p

And you's a ho

1055 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:50:42pm

re: #1051 Walter L. Newton

Not right now, stopped a few hours ago, only got about 3 inches, they were expecting a foot, but I think it all went further south than expected. But, not over yet, storm warning up till tomorrow, we'll see.

Well ,,, be safe

1057 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:50:50pm

re: #1047 Spare O'Lake

sorry, but Cato is no psycho. He's a sane man, and that's what makes his going after Mandy worse. He's been a real asset to LGF, and I hate to see him like this.

1058 wee fury  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:51:09pm

re: #1028 austin_blue

Not any more. They will willingly bankrupt you, these days.

Not true. See Mayo Clinic Billing.
This part may interest you.

Providing individualized payment plans, medical services at reduced rates or at no cost — based upon the patient's ability to pay.
Providing emergency care to stabilize patients, regardless of ability to pay.
1059 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:51:12pm

re: #1046 Walter L. Newton

Steve's my friend, be nice to him. We talk on the phone. He's one of the most honest guys I know.

heh, umm...

Ok I'll be perfectly serious to you for a second.

The way he acts, you can't complain about ANYBODY acting badly to him.

I'll admit in fairness that he usually doens't complain, he just throws one of the 3 insults he actually knows out.

1060 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:51:30pm

re: #1054 cliffster

Oh totally :D

1061 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:51:32pm

re: #501 Varek Raith

I'm somewhat confused... Is the CBO to be trusted or not???

Let's just say that they have a better grasp on the omni-tentacled Cthulu that is our federal budget than any other agency, possibly excepting the OMB.

1062 jaunte  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:51:59pm

re: #1059 windsagio

That's not fair. He knows way more than three.

1063 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:52:30pm

"Rather than fight the same tired battles that have dominated Washington for decades, it's time to try something new. Let's invest in our people without leaving them a mountain of debt. Let's meet our responsibility to the citizens who sent us here. Let's try common sense."
– President Barack Obama

1064 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:52:32pm

re: #1047 Spare O'Lake

Don't waste your breath. He has become a psychotic stalker.

he's just having fun...

1065 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:52:54pm

re: #1062 jaunte

Should variations count?

The ones I know:

"You're useless"
"You're stalking me"
"Obama SUXXORS"

1066 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:53:17pm

re: #1059 windsagio

heh, umm...

Ok I'll be perfectly serious to you for a second.

The way he acts, you can't complain about ANYBODY acting badly to him.

I'll admit in fairness that he usually doens't complain, he just throws one of the 3 insults he actually knows out.

He knows more than three... I sent him at least 30 of my used insults, and he collected a good number from some of the banned users... he has a good collection.

1067 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:53:41pm

re: #706 PT Barnum

But by this time, McCain would have died and we'd be stuck with Caribou Barbie and her VP Todd of the same name.

I had a very vivid scenario for the beginning of the movie where that happened. Didn't like to describe it at the time, because, well, I didn't like to speculate about McCain dying. Seemed rude.

But we're well past inauguration day, and he seems in fine health.

1068 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:53:51pm

I so wish I was back in school, doing a psychology paper on the life of a blog would be so interesting. I was born too soon.

1069 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:54:38pm

re: #1068 Stanley Sea

This is a good one to study too actually, because there's fairly strong moderation, its all these passions and rivalries seething JUST UNDER THE SURFACE!!

1070 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:54:39pm

re: #1063 The Sanity Inspector

"Rather than fight the same tired battles that have dominated Washington for decades, it's time to try something new. Let's invest in our people without leaving them a mountain of debt. Let's meet our responsibility to the citizens who sent us here. Let's try common sense."
– President Barack Obama

Fine words. Let him live up to them. If he comes up with a plan that does so, I will support it so long as it does not weaken our defenses.

1071 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:54:58pm

re: #1058 wee fury

Oh ,, you and your facts

How can someone demonize those terrible for profits if you're going to do that !?!?!

/

1072 Obdicut  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:55:11pm

re: #862 MandyManners

Whatever, Mandy. I don't consider a fuck you from you to be that meaningful. You hand them out a little too freely.

I've been perfectly polite to you, and now you're saying fuck you to me. That's just tiresome.

1073 The Shadow Do  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:55:11pm

re: #1016 prairiefire

How did you do the deed, Shadow?

Er, I took up a set of barbecue tongs and picked up the Lowes sticky trap with rat attached and tossed it onto the lawn. He was squealing loudly all the while. I turned to take up my shovel for the coup de grace when he suddenly scrip, scrap, scrambled beneath my car parked in the drive. This unnerved me for a while until I decided to move the car and have another go at it. Thank God, he was under one of the wheels so I mercifully, for both of us, pancaked him.

Folks, do not buy those sticky traps - even though they state they will anesthetize the captee. Sure, if you catch them by the nose and not the paws or the tail! Awful, awful, awful.

1074 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:55:27pm

re: #1069 windsagio

This is a good one to study too actually, because there's fairly strong moderation, its all these passions and rivalries seething JUST UNDER THE SURFACE!!

And where will it go? haha I laugh, because I'm watching.

1075 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:55:35pm

re: #1059 windsagio

heh, umm...

Ok I'll be perfectly serious to you for a second.

The way he acts, you can't complain about ANYBODY acting badly to him.

I'll admit in fairness that he usually doens't complain, he just throws one of the 3 insults he actually knows out.

does every thread have to be about me?...you are like some gossip monger that cannot stop talking about and judging others...why this fixation with me?...your're getting creepy yourself

1076 Obdicut  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:56:04pm

re: #882 Dark_Falcon

Or we raise tax revenue. But I agree, cutting spending is the more sure approach.

1077 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:56:33pm

re: #1066 Walter L. Newton

He knows more than three... I sent him at least 30 of my used insults, and he collected a good number from some of the banned users... he has a good collection.

most of these airheads don't desereve #4 and above

1078 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:56:34pm

re: #1068 Stanley Sea

I so wish I was back in school, doing a psychology paper on the life of a blog would be so interesting. I was born too soon.

It'd be interesting trying to cram us all on the couch.

1079 swamprat  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:56:48pm

I'm investing in fake seeds. That's right, fake.
You want hybrids? I got 'em!
8 inch heirloom tomatoes? No prob!
Coldweather bananas? Step right up!

Come the Apocalypse, I'm gonna be rolling in it!

1080 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:57:17pm

re: #1075 albusteve

Don't worry, ask the others I'm an equal opportunity hater.

Are persecution complexes self-centered tho'?

1081 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:57:21pm

re: #1069 windsagio

This is a good one to study too actually, because there's fairly strong moderation, its all these passions and rivalries seething JUST UNDER THE SURFACE!!

I'm seething and I don't know how much longer I can last before I just blow and... boo! Are you really worried about what or who people feel just because you have an opinion that may be different than theirs? Really, do you really put that much importance in what anyone says here?

1082 keloyd  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:57:28pm

re: #1068 Stanley Sea

I so wish I was back in school, doing a psychology paper on the life of a blog would be so interesting. I was born too soon.

and this blog is less bloggy blogulescent blogificacious than most, and I mean that in a good way, for LGF, not for blogs.

1083 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:57:33pm

re: #1073 The Shadow Do

Er, I took up a set of barbecue tongs and picked up the Lowes sticky trap with rat attached and tossed it onto the lawn. He was squealing loudly all the while. I turned to take up my shovel for the coup de grace when he suddenly scrip, scrap, scrambled beneath my car parked in the drive. This unnerved me for a while until I decided to move the car and have another go at it. Thank God, he was under one of the wheels so I mercifully, for both of us, pancaked him.

Folks, do not buy those sticky traps - even though they state they will anesthetize the captee. Sure, if you catch them by the nose and not the paws or the tail! Awful, awful, awful.

and I'm glad you learned the lesson all glue trap buyers have learned in the past.

I tell you, I was with you though, every step of the way.

1084 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:57:55pm

re: #1074 Stanley Sea

speaking of psychology, theres been this crazy sex-orientation to a good % of my posts tonight, thats kinda odd >>

1085 wee fury  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:58:35pm

re: #1084 windsagio

speaking of psychology, theres been this crazy sex-orientation to a good % of my posts tonight, thats kinda odd >>

You need to get out more.

1086 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:58:37pm

I had never receive a kindness, than never bestow one. Not to return a benefit is the greater sin, but not confer it is the earlier.
-- Lucius Seneca

1087 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:59:09pm

re: #1079 swamprat

I'm investing in fake seeds. That's right, fake.
You want hybrids? I got 'em!
8 inch heirloom tomatoes? No prob!
Coldweather bananas? Step right up!

Come the Apocalypse, I'm gonna be rolling in it!

Naw, we've already invested in some normal seeds, so that when my children are out plowing up the lawn, and the neighbor's lawn, with a human femur, we'll already have squash seeds.

Of course, the squash will be 8 feet tall, have the face of Satan on it, and plot our demise, as this is the apocalypse, but I think I can take the sucker on.

1088 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:59:11pm

re: #1078 The Sanity Inspector

Something makes me think that you try! I would so be into assisting someone with a study. hint...

1089 jaunte  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:59:13pm

re: #1074 Stanley Sea

And where will it go? haha I laugh, because I'm watching.

It will go very dark:

1090 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:59:19pm

re: #1080 windsagio

Don't worry, ask the others I'm an equal opportunity hater.

Are persecution complexes self-centered tho'?

yes, I hate myself for responding to such a waste of time...leave me alone

1091 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:59:39pm

re: #1072 Obdicut

Whatever, Mandy. I don't consider a fuck you from you to be that meaningful. You hand them out a little too freely.

I've been perfectly polite to you, and now you're saying fuck you to me. That's just tiresome.

Mandy has been being batted around like a pinata at a thrid grade birthday party for the last month or so, even AFTER she changed her avatar. In light of that, her #862 was just blowing off steam, imho

If you got caught in the crosshairs by thinking you are one of the 'prog friends" she referred to ,, oh well

1092 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 8:59:40pm

re: #1081 Walter L. Newton

worried no, interested yes.

The emotional investment is one of the things that makes it interesting.

I enjoy the discussions and even some of the fights.

I've been around the net for a while, and I also know that none of this is really worth a damn. Nothings likely to change because of what we put on here, its just a fun exercise.

1093 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:00:17pm

At least Purdue put up a good fight for 3/4 of the game. They'll be back next year.

1094 bratwurst  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:00:24pm

re: #1072 Obdicut

Well you ARE a prog. Just sayin.

1095 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:00:30pm

re: #1092 windsagio

Note that I make it a point to always post things I actually believe tho, none of this devils advocate bullcrap.

1096 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:00:55pm

re: #1090 albusteve

pfft. You love me giving you somebody to rail against :P

1097 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:00:59pm

re: #1084 windsagio

Not surprising. Interesting. I missed them though.

but, you're high right?

1098 cliffster  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:01:16pm

re: #1091 sattv4u2

Mandy has been being batted around like a pinata at a thrid grade birthday party for the last month or so, even AFTER she changed her avatar. In light of that, her #862 was just blowing off steam, imho

If you got caught in the crosshairs by thinking you are one of the 'prog friends" she referred to ,, oh well

It's like junior high at the blogs. Those people all need to fucking grow up.

1099 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:01:23pm

re: #1092 windsagio

worried no, interested yes.

The emotional investment is one of the things that makes it interesting.

I enjoy the discussions and even some of the fights.

I've been around the net for a while, and I also know that none of this is really worth a damn. Nothings likely to change because of what we put on here, its just a fun exercise.

Finally, someone who can let down his/her guard for just a moment and speak to the truth of all this. Just a bunch of bits and bytes and bullshit. Good comment.

1100 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:01:32pm

I hope the "Dog Whisperer" gets attacked one day.

1101 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:01:40pm

re: #1097 Stanley Sea

Maybe?

Its a combination of being in a fair deal of pain and being a little bit out of it.

I'm not totally wasted tho'.

1102 swamprat  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:02:15pm

re: #1082 keloyd

and this blog is less bloggy blogulescent blogificacious than most, and I mean that in a good way, for LGF, not for blogs.


This is the best blog you will ever be on. And I don't mean that in a good way.


/ Old Homer Simpson riff

1103 cliffster  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:02:40pm

re: #1101 windsagio

Maybe?

Its a combination of being in a fair deal of pain and being a little bit out of it.

I'm not totally wasted tho'.

You're totally something...

1104 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:03:00pm

re: #1099 Walter L. Newton

well at best its a good thought-exercise tho'. You can work out your own ideas and help others work out theirs. Just don't expect too much from others :P

Thats why I get so annoyed at people that use Emotional Reasoning tho'. It ruins what little good yo ucan actually get from the process.

1105 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:03:10pm

re: #1092 windsagio

I'm more naive. I think that our basic personality does show.

I could not take the time to create a false identity etc.

1106 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:03:13pm

re: #1100 Cannadian Club Akbar

I hope the "Dog Whisperer" gets attacked one day.

hey now. I've learned a lot from Caesar. I have two dogs, both were abandoned. Although both are good dogs, each had an issue or two. Things I saw on his show and applied WORK

1107 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:03:17pm

re: #1103 cliffster

Ooh tell me!

I seriously won't be offended :D

1108 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:03:30pm

re: #1098 cliffster

It's like junior high at the blogs. Those people all need to fucking grow up.

We all need to calm down. Cato needs to stand down going after Mandy. She is a valuable part of this community, and the attacks on her are getting out of hand.

1109 RogueOne  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:03:43pm

Games over, nite folks.

1110 cliffster  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:03:46pm

re: #1100 Cannadian Club Akbar

I hope the "Dog Whisperer" gets attacked one day.

I hope a dog yells at him really loud

1111 wee fury  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:03:55pm

Black Hawk - Sauk - said:
"How smooth must be the language of the whites, when they can make right look like wrong, and wrong like right."

1112 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:04:16pm

re: #1110 cliffster

I hope a dog yells at him really loud

Or a strongly worded letter...

1113 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:04:17pm

Here we go again...

Israeli tanks 'enter Gaza' after deadly clashes

Israeli tanks are reported to have advanced into the Gaza Strip following clashes with Palestinians in which two Israeli soldiers died.

Witnesses in Gaza said tanks and bulldozers had moved towards the southern town of Khan Younis.

They also said there had been firing from the Israeli navy along the Gaza coastline.

It is the first time Israeli soldiers have died in Gaza since Israel's 22-day offensive there more than a year ago.

Reports say at least two Palestinians have also been killed.

Israel says the fighting started when its troops crossed into Gaza after spotting militants planting explosives along the border.

Reports from inside Gaza say the militants then tried to capture an Israeli soldier.

Israel to be blamed in 5...4...3...

1114 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:04:39pm

re: #1105 Stanley Sea

I'm more naive. I think that our basic personality does show.

I could not take the time to create a false identity etc.

I believe that 100%, but that's part of what makes it interesting. The cynicism only comes in when I think about the idea that its not actually gonna make a damn difference either way. I'm not gonna convince Mandy that Islam isn't evil, for instance.

1115 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:04:41pm

re: #1057 Dark_Falcon

sorry, but Cato is no psycho. He's a sane man, and that's what makes his going after Mandy worse. He's been a real asset to LGF, and I hate to see him like this.

I hope he cuts it out immediately.

1116 The Shadow Do  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:04:41pm

re: #1093 RogueOne

At least Purdue put up a good fight for 3/4 of the game. They'll be back next year.

Ugly cheerleaders and all...

1117 cliffster  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:04:52pm

re: #1108 Dark_Falcon

We all need to calm down. Cato needs to stand down going after Mandy. She is a valuable part of this community, and the attacks on her are getting out of hand.

I think he thinks it's funny. Maybe it is, I'm not either one of them. That's some Friday night deep thoughts.

1118 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:04:59pm

re: #1095 windsagio

Note that I make it a point to always post things I actually believe tho, none of this devils advocate bullcrap.

Bullcrap... no, a mirror. And there is an art to playing that out. You talk about psychology, I specialize in "cold reading" otherwise know as "Hellstronism." And it's really interesting when you can do it simply from "reading" the words of people you don't even know.

1119 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:05:05pm

re: #1113 NJDhockeyfan

Here we go again...

Israeli tanks 'enter Gaza' after deadly clashes

Israel to be blamed in 5...4...3...

Lemme guess ,,

disproportionate response!

1120 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:05:38pm

re: #1101 windsagio

You are still dealing with the dental pain? Fuck, I just went through it, Dentist gave me Advil 800 scrip, I went to bed & went back to the office the next day to get my vicodin. Horrible pain - you should not have to deal w/

1121 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:05:53pm

re: #1063 The Sanity Inspector

He said that? Really?

Did he use a sarc tag?

1122 cliffster  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:06:24pm

re: #1107 windsagio

Ooh tell me!

I seriously won't be offended :D

I can't possibly imagine what you're on, you said I was a fuddy. Or something

1123 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:06:25pm

re: #1118 Walter L. Newton

Bullcrap... no, a mirror. And there is an art to playing that out. You talk about psychology, I specialize in "cold reading" otherwise know as "Hellstronism." And it's really interesting when you can do it simply from "reading" the words of people you don't even know.

Salmon baseball birthday cake.

1124 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:06:25pm

re: #1118 Walter L. Newton

That's what makes sparring with you especially fun :p Its like a game where we're trying to catch each other out.


But I challenge you: What positions have I advocated that I don't actually believe?

1125 avanti  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:06:28pm

OMG, Obama is building his private Army in the health car bill./

link...

1126 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:06:44pm

re: #1121 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He said that? Really?

Did he use a sarc tag?

No... but he was drunk.

1127 The Shadow Do  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:07:04pm

re: #1100 Cannadian Club Akbar

I hope the "Dog Whisperer" gets attacked one day.

I'd like to see a pomeranian just tear his ass up! LOL

1128 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:07:24pm

re: #1120 Stanley Sea

oh you didn't see that part.

Was supposed to get another tooth pulled to day. Turns out htere was an abcess under it, and so the novacaine wouldn't take. So now I have an abcessed tooth thats been fucked with.

Thus they gave me some pain drugs, and penicillin. We're ognna try again next week :P

1129 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:07:25pm

re: #998 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. Cato, you have your victory. Leave well enough alone.

I don't know what victory you're talking about, seeing that Mandy's new avatar is if possible worse than her last, snickering seductively (in a celibate way) about torture.

My personal feeling and that of many commenters on Saint Roses's site and Deuce is that she would be happier somewhere else.

But I don't desire to get rid of her. She exemplifies the schizophrenia of the right in so many instructive ways, her absence would be a real loss of presence.

And anyway, SOROS and his minions have now told me to go easy on her, and I, a good, loyal prog-bot, shall off course comply. Who am I to go up against I.C.E.W.E.A.S.E.L. 9000™ the Queen of the Night, my Mistress, and Jimmah, the other member of the Evil Trio.

No, I know my place.

1130 swamprat  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:07:27pm

re: #1118 Walter L. Newton


Yes. We are who we are.

1131 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:07:30pm

re: #1113 NJDhockeyfan

Here we go again...

Israeli tanks 'enter Gaza' after deadly clashes

Israel to be blamed in 5...4...3...

It'll go like this: "The Palestinians were force into violence by the Israeli blockade. Israel then entered Gaza and murdered them for resisting." Palestinian rocket and mortar attacks will not be mentioned, nor their incitment to murder Jews. The international press will lie and obfuscate, as usual.

1132 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:07:38pm

re: #1125 avanti

Crazy Pam has been covering that too.

1133 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:07:47pm

re: #1127 The Shadow Do

I'd like to see a pomeranian just tear his ass big toe up! LOL

1134 wee fury  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:08:07pm

re: #1125 avanti

OMG, Obama is building his private Army in the health car bill./

link...

Oh, no. Not a Health CAR bill also! When will it stop?

1135 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:08:25pm

re: #1124 windsagio

That's what makes sparring with you especially fun :p Its like a game where we're trying to catch each other out.

But I challenge you: What positions have I advocated that I don't actually believe?

Oh... I've never claimed you do or don't believe in this position or that position.

1136 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:09:26pm

re: #1135 Walter L. Newton

*rereads the post above*

OK now Iget what you were saying :p

I have to admit I still think its presumptuous the way you do it, your technique would be a good teaching tool, if yo uwere in a position to be a teacher :P

1137 The Shadow Do  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:09:38pm

re: #1113 NJDhockeyfan

Here we go again...

Israeli tanks 'enter Gaza' after deadly clashes

Israel to be blamed in 5...4...3...

Hurt em IDF. The price is the same either way.

1138 wee fury  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:10:02pm

re: #1129 Cato the Elder

What is wrong with you?

1139 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:10:14pm

re: #1115 Spare O'Lake

I hope he cuts it out immediately.

I will. I'm too busy working on a set of Cantos about you.

1140 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:10:21pm

... I think spare'o'lake doesn't like me very much, I'm getting 100% downdinged >>

1141 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:10:33pm

re: #1128 windsagio

UGH.

1142 swamprat  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:10:45pm

re: #1128 windsagio


Waterpic. Put peroxide or a mild baking soda solution in it.

1143 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:10:49pm

re: #1140 windsagio

and crap. I broke my rule about never complaining about how osmeone dings my posts. Dammit.

1144 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:11:23pm

re: #1142 swamprat

I shall try that, I'm relatively numb right now tho' (or at least don't care :p)

1145 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:11:57pm

re: #1129 Cato the Elder

I don't know what victory you're talking about, seeing that Mandy's new avatar is if possible worse than her last, snickering seductively (in a celibate way) about torture.

My personal feeling and that of many commenters on Saint Roses's site and Deuce is that she would be happier somewhere else.

But I don't desire to get rid of her. She exemplifies the schizophrenia of the right in so many instructive ways, her absence would be a real loss of presence.

And anyway, SOROS and his minions have now told me to go easy on her, and I, a good, loyal prog-bot, shall off course comply. Who am I to go up against I.C.E.W.E.A.S.E.L. 9000™ the Queen of the Night, my Mistress, and Jimmah, the other member of the Evil Trio.

No, I know my place.

How is a picture of Khalid Sheik Mohammad worse? I don't understand.

1146 bratwurst  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:12:57pm

re: #1145 Dark_Falcon

How is a picture of Khalid Sheik Mohammad worse? I don't understand.

He is referring to the caption.

1147 keloyd  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:13:06pm

re: #1095 windsagio

Note that I make it a point to always post things I actually believe tho, none of this devils advocate bullcrap.

Bleh, that's boring. I love me some devil's advocacy. I'd rather argue with someone here who I agree with but their logic is faulty, than doze off in a big room where we all agree on everything.

It's getting late, and all this walking to and fro upon the earth, and up and down upon it is making me tired, time to get my bifurcated tail to bed.

1148 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:13:10pm

re: #1144 windsagio

OK, crazy remedy. Gargle, or more tilt your head so that hydrogen peroxide hits the spot,

1149 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:13:29pm

re: #1099 Walter L. Newton

Finally, someone who can let down his/her guard for just a moment and speak to the truth of all this. Just a bunch of bits and bytes and bullshit. Good comment.

Yeah, he's right I guess. This is all a bunch of meaningless bullshit.

1150 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:13:31pm

re: #1145 Dark_Falcon

How is a picture of Khalid Sheik Mohammad worse? I don't understand.

My only complaint is that he's ugly as hell.

1151 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:13:45pm

re: #1145 Dark_Falcon

How is a picture of Khalid Sheik Mohammad worse? I don't understand.

don't try to understand...either accept Cato for what he is or ignore him...it's really not one big happy family...it's a blog not a wedding

1152 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:13:47pm

re: #1145 Dark_Falcon

Simple. It's Mandy.

1153 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:13:53pm

re: #1147 keloyd

You might have not noticed, but there are plenty of things I disagree with people on here about.

If its boring, all we have to do is bring up Israel policy, or Ronald Reagan :p

1154 The Shadow Do  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:14:41pm

Lib Lizards here just really, really hate Mandy. Makes for a good party.

1155 swamprat  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:14:41pm

re: #1144 windsagio

Gave you a joke downding. That waterpic thing worked for a friend of mine. I hate dental pain.

1156 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:15:06pm

re: #1153 windsagio

You might have not noticed, but there are plenty of things I disagree with people on here about.

If its boring, all we have to do is bring up Israel policy, or Ronald Reagan :p

And that happens every time. Guaranteed.

1157 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:15:24pm

re: #1146 bratwurst

He is referring to the caption.

I see. I must say it does not bother me.

1158 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:15:27pm

re: #1155 swamprat

Pff I can handle it, I joke - people all the time, if I think they won't freak anyways.

The only people I feel safe with for that tho, are SS, Ice, Jimmah, and WUB.

1159 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:15:44pm

re: #1129 Cato the Elder

I don't know what victory you're talking about, seeing that Mandy's new avatar is if possible worse than her last, snickering seductively (in a celibate way) about torture.

My personal feeling and that of many commenters on Saint Roses's site and Deuce is that she would be happier somewhere else.

But I don't desire to get rid of her.[...]

GONNGGG!!!!

1160 bratwurst  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:16:11pm

re: #1154 The Shadow Do

Lib Lizards here just really, really hate Mandy.

Whereas she envelops us in Christian love.

1161 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:16:12pm

re: #1157 Dark_Falcon

I see. I must say it does not bother me.

My first reaction was to tell Mandy she needs to shave.

I decided not to say anything, then, because the whole issue had gotten so contentious.

1162 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:17:07pm

re: #1160 bratwurst

See I admit I don't think much of her.

One of the reasons is that she makes my religion look bad.

How am I supposed to argue with the Atheists (that's another thing we can fight about :p) if I have some religious bigot hanging around making me look bad?

1163 The Shadow Do  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:17:17pm

re: #1160 bratwurst

Whereas she envelops us in Christian love.

Ain't it grand!

1164 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:17:27pm

re: #1160 bratwurst

Whereas she envelops us in Christian love.

HA HA HA

1165 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:17:43pm

re: #1161 EmmmieG

Avatar ding!

1166 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:17:54pm

re: #1131 Dark_Falcon

It'll go like this: "The Palestinians were force into violence by the Israeli blockade. Israel then entered Gaza and murdered them for resisting." Palestinian rocket and mortar attacks will not be mentioned, nor their incitment to murder Jews. The international press will lie and obfuscate, as usual.

And Jimmy Carter will call for action against Israel by the US.

1167 cliffster  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:17:58pm

re: #1151 albusteve

don't try to understand...either accept Cato for what he is or ignore him...it's really not one big happy family...it's a blog not a wedding

It's LGF, not the fucking prom

1168 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:18:09pm

re: #1165 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Avatar ding!

How are you doing?

1169 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:18:28pm

re: #1167 cliffster

The image of the last dance between the posters here is enough to strike one blind.

1170 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:18:34pm

re: #1167 cliffster

It's LGF, not the fucking prom

Yeah, we have better music.

1171 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:18:52pm

A psychiatrist is a fellow who asks you a lot of expensive questions your wife
asks for nothing.
-- Joey Adams

1172 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:18:54pm

re: #1161 EmmmieG

My first reaction was to tell Mandy she needs to shave.

I decided not to say anything, then, because the whole issue had gotten so contentious.

I told her she needs to shave her back.

:)

1173 bratwurst  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:19:25pm

re: #1167 cliffster

It's LGF, not the fucking prom

So I am wearing a cummerbund for NOTHING?

1174 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:19:29pm

re: #1166 NJDhockeyfan

And Jimmy Carter will call for action against Israel by the US.

Sure as God make a mule stubborn. Carter has thrown his lot in with the Palis. Hope he enjoys the fleas from the dogs he's lying down with.

1175 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:19:45pm

re: #1168 EmmmieG

Lovely... just had a 45 second avatar calming moment. Thanks.

I'd print that and carry it with me, but that would be weird.

1176 Ericus58  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:19:47pm

re: #924 MandyManners

[Video]

Thanks Mandy...
I'm sure that most of us here have in our hearts either a loved one, family member or a friend that has made the ultimate Sacrifice for America.

Our true Hero's... Our True Treasure's.

windsagio.. for the life of me I can't understand that downding...

1177 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:20:00pm

re: #1166 NJDhockeyfan

And Jimmy Carter will call for action against Israel by the US.

I posted 2 stories on last nights LNDT pointing out why he is a douchebag.

1178 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:20:11pm

re: #1173 bratwurst

So I am wearing a cummerbund for NOTHING?

Give me back my dickie.

1179 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:20:24pm

re: #957 windsagio

Actually I think you're wrong, btw.

Its not that she's trying to prove something, but rather that her life is so empty that she needs the community that this blog represents. Thats why she always pulls back from the brink at the lats second.

Now, you might very well think that, but, of course, I couldn't possibly comment.

1180 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:20:25pm

re: #1169 windsagio

The image of the last dance between the posters here is enough to strike one blind.

Oh loosen up, Pops!

1181 bratwurst  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:20:30pm

re: #1178 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Give me back my dickie.

In bed.

1182 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:20:32pm

re: #1173 bratwurst

So I am wearing a cummerbund for NOTHING?

Hold still. I've been known to miss with the pin to this boutonniere.

1183 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:20:37pm

re: #1173 bratwurst

So I am wearing a cummerbund for NOTHING?

[DF snaps bratwurst's cummerbund for fun,] ;)

1184 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:20:39pm

re: #1176 Ericus58

Its covered.

But I'll repeat it because it bears repeating.

Its a pathetic appeal to patriotism to garner popularity.

I don't like people being manipulative like that.

1185 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:20:53pm

re: #1173 bratwurst

So I am wearing a cummerbund for NOTHING?

'Sfunny, I'm wearing nothing but a cummerbund...

1186 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:21:16pm

re: #1174 Dark_Falcon

Sure as God make a mule stubborn. Carter has thrown his lot in with the Palis. Hope he enjoys the fleas from the dogs he's lying down with.

"There's no doubt that in general the United States government has been much more attuned to the sensitivities of the Israelis and has yielded excessively to the circumstances in the Holy Land as Israel has confiscated several lands within Palestine, I hope that in the future we'll see the United States taking a much more balanced position and doing everything possible to implement a two-state solution" that establishes an independent Palestinian state based on 1967 borders."

Jimmy Carter

1187 swamprat  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:21:21pm

re: #1167 cliffster

It's LGF, not the fucking prom


It's a tough room.

1188 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:21:22pm

re: #1182 EmmmieG

Hold still. I've been known to miss with the pin to this boutonniere.

use a nail gun

1189 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:21:37pm

re: #1176 Ericus58

Some folks get bitchy when she wraps herself in the flag, n' stuff.

I like a bit of the ole patriotism.

1190 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:22:13pm

Night all...

1191 jaunte  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:22:25pm

re: #1184 windsagio

Its covered.

But I'll repeat it because it bears repeating.

Its a pathetic appeal to patriotism to garner popularity.

I don't like people being manipulative like that.

Are you concerned that anyone here is going to change their opinions because of a song?

1192 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:22:57pm

re: #1184 windsagio

Its covered.

But I'll repeat it because it bears repeating.

Its a pathetic appeal to patriotism to garner popularity.

I don't like people being manipulative like that.

Sit through the Mormon Tabernacle Choir singing "Battle Hymn of the Republic." Right after the president of the United States has left the building.

THAT'S having your emotions manipulated.

I've also heard the Greenwood song live.

Like them both, but I didn't cry for Greenwood.

1193 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:23:04pm

re: #1184 windsagio

It's a cheesy song to the nth degree too.

1194 bratwurst  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:23:15pm

re: #1183 Dark_Falcon

[DF snaps bratwurst's cummerbund for fun,] ;)

It's powder blue if that helps paint a better picture for anyone.

1195 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:23:20pm

re: #1191 jaunte

Huh?

In the case of this song one would have to presume that somebody hated the USA in order to have it change their opinions.

1196 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:23:20pm

re: #1190 Walter L. Newton

Night all...

will call you over the weekend...I have a plan amigo

1197 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:23:34pm

re: #1140 windsagio

... I think spare'o'lake doesn't like me very much, I'm getting 100% downdinged >>

It's my way of showing how much I value your endless stream of inconsequential, meaningless drivel. Nothing personal tho ;d >>

1198 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:23:46pm

re: #1193 Stanley Sea

Yeah we won't even get to the fact that Lee Greenwood is a hack.

1199 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:23:54pm

re: #1194 bratwurst

It's powder blue if that helps paint a better picture for anyone.

Ruffles on the shirt, right? (You're describing my uncle's wedding get-up. He had wavy hair to his shoulders, too, and a 'stache.)

1200 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:24:13pm

re: #1196 albusteve

will call you over the weekend...I have a plan amigo

There's a movie in there somewhere.

1201 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:24:18pm

re: #1197 Spare O'Lake

Normally you trying to mock my style would be a bummer, but not tonihgt!!

1202 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:24:38pm

I prefer my patriotic songs with a little more humor.

1203 keloyd  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:25:06pm

re: #1174 Dark_Falcon

Carter has this defend-the-underdog streak with Palestine. He's wrong about that and many things, but I see it as more of a symptom of a psychological tick. His record on North Korea is also somewhat at odds with reality. OTOH, he's risked life and limb serving in u-boats and built more home for poor people than me, so I won't complain too loud.

He's not the only one to project their psychological issues on to the Israel/Palestine thing. Some of us do Israel no favors when we are frightened to be critical when it's needed.

1204 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:25:10pm

re: #1189 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Some folks get bitchy when she wraps herself in the flag, n' stuff.

I like a bit of the ole patriotism.

"Ole" patriotism!

OH NOES! IMMIGRATION REFORM!

1205 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:25:16pm

I missed the Greenwood drop. :(

1206 jaunte  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:25:17pm

re: #1195 windsagio

Huh?

In the case of this song one would have to presume that somebody hated the USA in order to have it change their opinions.

Right, it simply presents a proposition that isn't very arguable, and is (imo) best ignored for better music.

1207 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:25:25pm

Psychiatry enables us to correct our faults by confessing our parents' shortcomings.
-- Laurence J. Peter

1208 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:25:29pm

re: #1194 bratwurst

It's powder blue if that helps paint a better picture for anyone.

Sounds like quite an outfit. Did it work with the ladies?

1209 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:25:43pm

re: #1206 jaunte

oh yeah, I get it now >

1210 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:26:26pm

re: #1204 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Ole" patriotism!

OH NOES! IMMIGRATION REFORM!

Look over here!! Look what we're doing! Then sneak it in.

1211 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:26:38pm

re: #1139 Cato the Elder

I will. I'm too busy working on a set of Cantos about you.

Thank you.

1212 bratwurst  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:27:04pm

re: #1199 EmmmieG

Ruffles on the shirt, right? (You're describing my uncle's wedding get-up. He had wavy hair to his shoulders, too, and a 'stache.)

I participated in a family friend's wedding back in the late 70s and that was pretty much the garb. *shudder*

1213 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:27:13pm

I was wondering why I suddenly had so much to say, and I realized it's because I had thought of some work I want to avoid.

As usual.

1214 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:27:25pm

Cato!
where's my peanut butter?

1215 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:27:38pm

G'night knuckleheads.

1216 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:27:48pm

re: #1203 keloyd

Carter has this defend-the-underdog streak with Palestine. He's wrong about that and many things, but I see it as more of a symptom of a psychological tick. His record on North Korea is also somewhat at odds with reality. OTOH, he's risked life and limb serving in u-boats and built more home for poor people than me, so I won't complain too loud.

He's not the only one to project their psychological issues on to the Israel/Palestine thing. Some of us do Israel no favors when we are frightened to be critical when it's needed.

At one time i thought Carter a good man. But his turn towards the Palestinians has been maintained beyond all reason and sense. He has never once really demanded they do anything; All the pressure is on Israel. That is a mark of grave moral blindness and intellectual dishonesty.

1217 cliffster  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:28:19pm

re: #1214 albusteve

Cato!
where's my peanut butter?

Chill, dude, he's giving me a foot rub

1218 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:28:47pm

re: #1176 Ericus58

Thanks Mandy...
I'm sure that most of us here have in our hearts either a loved one, family member or a friend that has made the ultimate Sacrifice for America.

Our true Hero's... Our True Treasure's.

windsagio.. for the life of me I can't understand that downding...

That song benefited from timing, too. It became practically the second national anthem when Desert Shield began.

1219 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:28:59pm

re: #1217 cliffster

Chill, dude, he's giving me a foot rub

And washing my hair. Multitasker he is.

1220 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:29:35pm

re: #1217 cliffster

Chill, dude, he's giving me a foot rub

Make sure he cleans all the toe putty out.

1221 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:30:06pm

Depressing video link (yes I put it in last night, but it charms me)

1222 wee fury  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:30:21pm

ummm, peanut butter -- off to make a sandwich.

1223 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:30:24pm

re: #1218 The Sanity Inspector

That song benefited from timing, too. It became practically the second national anthem when Desert Shield began.

And it works for such a purpose, too. It's not truly special musically, but to speaks to how Americans tend feel.

1224 cliffster  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:30:26pm

re: #1220 NJDhockeyfan

Now why is everyone taking things to that place you shouldn't take them tonight?

1225 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:30:51pm

re: #1216 Dark_Falcon

At one time i thought Carter a good man. But his turn towards the Palestinians has been maintained beyond all reason and sense. He has never once really demanded they do anything; All the pressure is on Israel. That is a mark of grave moral blindness and intellectual dishonesty.

he's suffering from some induced affliction...he will take being the worst president to his grave...he knows this and has appealed outside American/Israeli interests to try and capture something he never has back then...Carter is a human failure

1226 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:30:53pm

re: #1199 EmmmieG

Ruffles on the shirt, right? (You're describing my uncle's wedding get-up. He had wavy hair to his shoulders, too, and a 'stache.)

Reminiscent of one of these numbers?

1227 bratwurst  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:30:58pm

re: #1208 Dark_Falcon

Sounds like quite an outfit. Did it work with the ladies?

Well I was a young guy at the time and the worst part is that I had to march down the aisle as part of the wedding party with my own sister. Talk about adding insult to sartorial humiliation.

1228 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:32:50pm

re: #1221 windsagio

Depressing video link (yes I put it in last night, but it charms me)


[Video]

Absolutely charming. Nice cube divider in the bedroom.

1229 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:32:52pm

46 missing after S.Korea warship sinks

Almost 50 sailors were missing after a South Korean warship sank near the tense border with North Korea, the military said Saturday, but officials said there was no sign so far the North was to blame.

President Lee Myung-Bak called an emergency security meeting and ordered a swift and thorough probe into what appeared to be one of the country's worst military tragedies for decades.

"Fifty-eight sailors have been rescued and 46 others are missing," a spokesman for the Joint Chief of Staff (JCS) told AFP, adding that a navy team was preparing to dive to investigate the cause of the sinking in the Yellow Sea.

The 1,200-tonne corvette sank Friday evening near Baengnyeong island after a still unexplained explosion. The craft turned turtle, with its hull protruding from the shallow but near-freezing waters.

Reports said the 88-metre (290 feet) craft would have ben carrying torpedos and other weaponry.

The military said 13 of the 58 known survivors were injured but are in stable condition. Navy ships and surveillance planes were searching for more survivors.

"Rescue operations are still under way," another JCS official said earlier Saturday. "There is no clue yet on any North Korean involvement."

1230 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:33:05pm

re: #1227 bratwurst

Well I was a young guy at the time and the worst part is that I had to march down the aisle as part of the wedding party with my own sister. Talk about adding insult to sartorial humiliation.

Aisle??

My uncle is a hippie. His wedding (with the ruffled shirt tuxedo) was held in a field. Being Seattle, it was held under a tarp, and somebody played some kind of lute or something. My aunt had flowers in her hair.

We played soccer afterward.

1231 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:33:38pm

re: #1228 Stanley Sea

Shockingly, after 43 episodes of depression and despair, that series ends on this amazing high note that changes the meaning of the whole thing.

1232 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:34:07pm

re: #1211 Spare O'Lake

Thank you.

I see you've become one of my compulsive downdingers.

That often happens when one has been subject to public rhymed ridicule.

Do not fear. It shall pass, as shall all things.

1233 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:34:32pm

re: #1226 The Sanity Inspector

Mmm.. Velvet lapels.

1234 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:35:30pm

re: #1231 windsagio

The wife wears something more attractive? That struck me immediately.

1235 keloyd  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:36:01pm

re: #1230 EmmmieG

Aisle??

My uncle is a hippie. His wedding (with the ruffled shirt tuxedo) was held in a field. Being Seattle, it was held under a tarp, and somebody played some kind of lute or something. My aunt had flowers in her hair.

We played soccer afterward.

I had a friend who raised some eyebrows by having a girl-minister officiate at the wedding. I was joking around calling her a 'priestess', but it wasn't my fault. They had an open bar.

1236 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:36:01pm

re: #1233 EmmmieG

Mmm.. Velvet lapels.

To match the Velvet Elvis above the fireplace at home.

1237 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:36:05pm

re: #1229 NJDhockeyfan

46 missing after S.Korea warship sinks

It'll be interesting to see what happened. My bet is a mine or torpedo.

1238 Querent  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:37:00pm

re: #59 darthstar

hey, I'm just glad she doesn't work at a public high school in Richmond.

i was just up at one today...

(okay, it was a comm. college, but still, it was in Richmond...)

1239 windsagio  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:37:02pm

re: #1234 Stanley Sea

lol >>

here's the actual ending (skip to 3:18):

Honest to god, I almost cried.

1240 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:37:28pm

re: #1145 Dark_Falcon

How is a picture of Khalid Sheik Mohammad worse? I don't understand.

It's the picture combined with the motto.

But I wouldn't presume to try to enlighten you.

1241 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:38:00pm

re: #1235 keloyd

I had a friend who raised some eyebrows by having a girl-minister officiate at the wedding. I was joking around calling her a 'priestess', but it wasn't my fault. They had an open bar.

Ah, how things have changed. Remember the first female officiant I saw too. It was over 11 years ago so I hope it's just normal now.

1242 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:38:07pm

re: #1229 NJDhockeyfan

46 missing after S.Korea warship sinks

Early reports are saying it looks like an accident. The Norks better hope so, because the South has kicked their asses in naval skirmishes before. Hell, so have the Japanese. Someone on a spy trawler shot at a Japanese patrol boat and got a faceful of minigun fire in return.

1243 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:39:14pm

re: #1235 keloyd

I had a friend who raised some eyebrows by having a girl-minister officiate at the wedding. I was joking around calling her a 'priestess', but it wasn't my fault. They had an open bar.

How long ago was this wedding? My cousin one-upped his father in hippie-ness by having his sister become a minister over the internet and perform the wedding.

He wanted her to be an important part of things.

1244 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:39:51pm

re: #1239 windsagio

"Your mom likes your dad?"

lmao!

1245 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:40:11pm

re: #1240 Cato the Elder

It's the picture combined with the motto.

But I wouldn't presume to try to enlighten you.

I updinged for pointing out the water water comment.

Not for your comment to DF. must clarify.

1246 Gus  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:40:50pm

re: #1202 JasonA

I prefer my patriotic songs with a little more humor.


[Video]

This was my patriotic song of not so long ago.

Merle Haggard - Fightin' Side of Me

1247 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:41:56pm

Freud tried to encourage people to look at themselves and to take their inner life seriously. But his psychology causes men and women not to take their real experiences seriously but rather to look beneath them to motives that their psychoanalytic therapists teach them to look on as the real causes. Thus the independence and the
charm of what they actually feel, think, and do is drained away. [...] Such people get into the bad habit of being ironical about what they do in life, for it must always be interpreted in terms of other things for which it is only a coverup. In an age where men and women are more and more actors and role players, this habit only reinforces their inability to *be* something, totally.
-- Allan Bloom, "The Fall of Eros", _Love and Friendship_, 1993

1248 Gus  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:43:06pm
1249 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:43:12pm

Chicago Man Charged with Providing Material Support to Al Qaeda by Attempting to Send Funds Overseas

CHICAGO — A Chicago man who claims to be acquainted with an alleged terrorist leader in Pakistan was arrested today on federal charges of providing material support to a foreign terrorist organization for allegedly attempting to provide funds overseas to al Qaeda, federal law enforcement officials announced. Although the defendant, Raja Lahrasib Khan, a Chicago taxi driver and native of Pakistan who became a naturalized U.S. citizen in 1988, allegedly discussed attacking a stadium in the United States this summer, there was no imminent domestic danger, officials said.

The investigation leading to Khan’s arrest is unrelated to a separate investigation that resulted in federal terrorism charges against Chicagoans Tahawwur Hussain Rana and David Coleman Headley in connection with the 2008 terror attacks in Mumbai and a plot to attack targets in Denmark, the officials added.

Khan, 56, of the city’s north side, was charged with two counts of providing material support to terrorism in a criminal complaint that was filed yesterday in U.S. District Court in Chicago and unsealed today following his arrest, announced Patrick J. Fitzgerald, United States Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois, and Robert D. Grant, Special Agent-in-Charge of the Chicago Office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The investigation is continuing, they said.

Khan was arrested this morning while working in downtown Chicago without incident by the Chicago FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force. He was scheduled to appear at 3:30 p.m. today before U.S. Magistrate Judge Geraldine Soat Brown in Federal Court in Chicago.

1250 Ericus58  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:43:30pm

re: #1100 Cannadian Club Akbar

I hope the "Dog Whisperer" gets attacked one day.

LOL... it's always the small ones ya gotta watch ;)

1251 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:43:38pm

re: #1240 Cato the Elder

It's the picture combined with the motto.

But I wouldn't presume to try to enlighten you.

I had forgotten about the motto. I understand your objection now.

1252 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:44:03pm

re: #1058 wee fury

Mayo is Mayo, though...they have funding, and a real reputation for excellence. Not sure you get the same treatment from Hellhole General.

1253 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:44:28pm

re: #1239 windsagio

lol >>

here's the actual ending (skip to 3:18):


[Video]Honest to god, I almost cried.

Good ending. Wife more modern, it's all good.

1254 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:45:23pm

re: #1232 Cato the Elder

I see you've become one of my compulsive downdingers.

That often happens when one has been subject to public rhymed ridicule.

Do not fear. It shall pass, as shall all things.

Don't worry old fellah, I was downdinging you solely for the purpose of encouraging you to let go of Mandy's ankle. Now that you have undertaken to do so and assuming you live up to your word, the downdinging will cease, and I hope we can get back to our previous enjoyable relationship.

1255 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:46:32pm

re: #1249 NJDhockeyfan

Chicago Man Charged with Providing Material Support to Al Qaeda by Attempting to Send Funds Overseas

It would seem the DHS is earning the money we pay them, wouldn't it?

Or is your point that such plots exist?

We can only hope and pray that they're giving as much scrutiny to wingnuts.

1256 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:47:25pm

re: #1246 Gus 802

This was my patriotic song of not so long ago.

Merle Haggard - Fightin' Side of Me


[Video]

I'm more of a classical kind of guy to be honest. Soemthing like this gets me teary:

1257 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:47:52pm

re: #1255 Cato the Elder

It would seem the DHS is earning the money we pay them, wouldn't it?

Or is your point that such plots exist?


[Video]We can only hope and pray that they're giving as much scrutiny to wingnuts.

I hope the DHS keeps an eye on all the kooks. Terrorism is always wrong.

1258 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:49:14pm

re: #1255 Cato the Elder

It would seem the DHS is earning the money we pay them, wouldn't it?

Or is your point that such plots exist?


[Video]We can only hope and pray that they're giving as much scrutiny to wingnuts.

Why did I post the story? We got another terrorist, that all. Why do you have to be an asshole?

1259 avanti  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:49:23pm

Very cool high resolution photo of earth. Even when you blow up the image, I see no sign we are here.

earth.

1260 Gus  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:49:26pm

re: #1256 JasonA

I'm more of a classical kind of guy to be honest. Soemthing like this gets me teary:


[Video]

Seriously. That's a tear jerker for sure.

1261 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:50:00pm

re: #1073 The Shadow Do

Er, I took up a set of barbecue tongs and picked up the Lowes sticky trap with rat attached and tossed it onto the lawn. He was squealing loudly all the while. I turned to take up my shovel for the coup de grace when he suddenly scrip, scrap, scrambled beneath my car parked in the drive. This unnerved me for a while until I decided to move the car and have another go at it. Thank God, he was under one of the wheels so I mercifully, for both of us, pancaked him.

Folks, do not buy those sticky traps - even though they state they will anesthetize the captee. Sure, if you catch them by the nose and not the paws or the tail! Awful, awful, awful.

I strongly second that. Get something that will trap the animal or kill it humanely. I hate those goddam things.

1262 The Shadow Do  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:50:22pm

AT&T Inc. will take a $1 billion non-cash accounting charge in the first quarter because of the health care overhaul and may cut benefits it offers to current and retired workers.

Yes we can!

1263 jaunte  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:50:56pm

My baby don't tolerate live, John Hiatt, Guy Clark, Joe Ely, Lyle Lovett

1264 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:51:02pm

re: #1259 avanti

Very cool high resolution photo of earth. Even when you blow up the image, I see no sign we are here.

earth.

I am behind the clouds.

1265 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:52:04pm

re: #1083 Stanley Sea

and I'm glad you learned the lesson all glue trap buyers have learned in the past.

I tell you, I was with you though, every step of the way.

And we were all proud of you for putting the dang thing out of its pain. For real. I was talking a good game about shovels, but I probably would have made my husband do it and traumatized HIM.

1266 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:52:29pm

re: #1254 Spare O'Lake

Don't worry old fellah, I was downdinging you solely for the purpose of encouraging you to let go of Mandy's ankle. Now that you have undertaken to do so and assuming you live up to your word, the downdinging will cease, and I hope we can get back to our previous enjoyable relationship.

Mandy addressed me directly for the first time in weeks tonight.

I was, of course, compelled to respond.

1267 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:53:19pm

re: #1259 avanti

Very cool high resolution photo of earth. Even when you blow up the image, I see no sign we are here.

earth.

But damn does the Caribbean look good.

1268 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:53:36pm

re: #1258 NJDhockeyfan

Why did I post the story? We got another terrorist, that all. Why do you have to be an asshole?

It's in my job description. Take it up with the higher powers.

1269 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:55:05pm

re: #1262 The Shadow Do

AT&T Inc. will take a $1 billion non-cash accounting charge in the first quarter because of the health care overhaul and may cut benefits it offers to current and retired workers.

Yes we can!

John Deere and Caterpillar won't take a hit, though. Wait, what?

1270 Gus  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:55:08pm
1271 avanti  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:55:09pm

re: #1262 The Shadow Do

AT&T Inc. will take a $1 billion non-cash accounting charge in the first quarter because of the health care overhaul and may cut benefits it offers to current and retired workers.

Yes we can!

Again:

"Under the 2003 Medicare prescription drug program, companies that provide prescription drug benefits for retirees have been able to receive subsidies covering 28 percent of eligible costs. But they could deduct the entire amount they spent on these drug benefits — including the subsidies — from their taxable income.

The new law allows companies to only deduct the 72 percent they spent."

i.e., they were double dipping, and the tax loophole was closed.

1272 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:55:18pm

re: #1268 Cato the Elder

It's in my job description.

Oh I'm quite sure you'd do it for free. :)

1273 cliffster  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:55:42pm

re: #1257 Dark_Falcon

I hope the DHS keeps an eye on all the kooks. Terrorism is always wrong.

If there was a Tito the Tickling Terrorist, that would be cool. Otherwise, yeah - always wrong.

1274 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:56:12pm

re: #1106 sattv4u2

hey now. I've learned a lot from Caesar. I have two dogs, both were abandoned. Although both are good dogs, each had an issue or two. Things I saw on his show and applied WORK

Note on Cesar Millan--a number of my male students admire him greatly. They see him as a Latino guy with a lot of positive machismo, who does really good things. It's an interesting connection, one I wouldn't have thought of if the boys hadn't discussed his show in class.

1275 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:56:40pm

re: #1271 avanti

Again:

"Under the 2003 Medicare prescription drug program, companies that provide prescription drug benefits for retirees have been able to receive subsidies covering 28 percent of eligible costs. But they could deduct the entire amount they spent on these drug benefits — including the subsidies — from their taxable income.

The new law allows companies to only deduct the 72 percent they spent."

i.e., they were double dipping, and the tax loophole was closed.

Yep, and its the grunts who pay the price. I know shit rolls down hill but I don't have to like it.

1276 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:56:40pm

Picture Day at the youth soccer fields tomorrow, gotta turn it over to the West Coasters for tonight. For those "stayiin' overnight"...

1277 freetoken  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:56:43pm

re: #1262 The Shadow Do

From your link:

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said Thursday that the tax law closed a loophole.

Under the 2003 Medicare prescription drug program, companies that provide prescription drug benefits for retirees have been able to receive subsidies covering 28 percent of eligible costs. But they could deduct the entire amount they spent on these drug benefits — including the subsidies — from their taxable income.

The new law allows companies to only deduct the 72 percent they spent.

I take it you would rather return to the old way and have the gov't subsidizing the companies?

1278 Ericus58  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:57:06pm

re: #1184 windsagio

Its covered.

But I'll repeat it because it bears repeating.

Its a pathetic appeal to patriotism to garner popularity.

I don't like people being manipulative like that.

You see, we all have our perceptions - based on our experiences.
Mine isn't so jaded as yours then. Watching that brought back thought's of someone not with us, and another that is in body but not in mind.

Keep it simple.

1279 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:57:27pm

re: #1274 SanFranciscoZionist

Note on Cesar Millan--a number of my male students admire him greatly. They see him as a Latino guy with a lot of positive machismo, who does really good things. It's an interesting connection, one I wouldn't have thought of if the boys hadn't discussed his show in class.

Never watched the show, though he did make for one of my favorite South Park episodes. Oh that was a magnificent show. Tsst!

1280 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:58:56pm

re: #1269 Cannadian Club Akbar

John Deere and Caterpillar won't take a hit, though. Wait, what?

Deere Takes $150 Mln. Charge On Health Care Reforms

Agricultural equipment maker Deere & Co. (DE: News ), Thursday said the new health care bill signed by President Barack Obama last Sunday will raise its expenses for fiscal 2010 by $150 million.

The expenses will be recorded primarily in the second quarter. This, however, was not previously mentioned by Deere, while providing its 2010 net income outlook of $1.3 billion along with the first quarter results, on February 17.

Caterpillar, Inc. (CAT: News ) is another equipment maker that recorded a similar charge this week. The new regulation will force the company to take a charge of $100 million in the first quarter of fiscal 2010.

1281 bratwurst  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:59:02pm

re: #1273 cliffster

Tito the Tickling Terrorist

That was Eric Massa's nickname in the navy.

1282 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:00:24pm

re: #1281 bratwurst

That was Eric Massa's nickname in the navy.

I thought he was the Massabater?

1283 Gus  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:01:11pm
1284 Ericus58  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:02:02pm

re: #1217 cliffster

Chill, dude, he's giving me a foot rub

*spew*
Really, this wasting of beer has got to end....

1285 avanti  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:02:14pm

re: #1275 Dark_Falcon

Yep, and its the grunts who pay the price. I know shit rolls down hill but I don't have to like it.

Oddly, many on the right quite rightly criticize a someone for welfare fraud of a few grand, but go absolutely nuts when we stop AT&T getting a unearned billion dollar tax corporate welfare bonus.

1286 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:03:16pm

re: #1266 Cato the Elder

Let's try to do better.

1287 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:04:23pm

re: #1166 NJDhockeyfan

And Jimmy Carter will call for action against Israel by the US.

We can pretty much do this one by heart, can't we? Le sigh.

1288 Gus  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:05:11pm
1289 Ericus58  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:06:09pm

re: #1225 albusteve

he's suffering from some induced affliction...he will take being the worst president to his grave...he knows this and has appealed outside American/Israeli interests to try and capture something he never has back then...Carter is a human failure

As much as I dislike (perhaps detest?) Cater, I can't go quite to human Failure.
I'd like to believe that in his heart of hearts he's thinking he's doing what's best... that just makes him a sad man whose lost his way. Unfortunately, being an ex-president it affords him a platform that he doesn't deserve.

1290 The Shadow Do  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:06:18pm

re: #1271 avanti

Again:

"Under the 2003 Medicare prescription drug program, companies that provide prescription drug benefits for retirees have been able to receive subsidies covering 28 percent of eligible costs. But they could deduct the entire amount they spent on these drug benefits — including the subsidies — from their taxable income.

The new law allows companies to only deduct the 72 percent they spent."

i.e., they were double dipping, and the tax loophole was closed.

Uh, the retirees are getting the short straw.

1291 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:06:28pm

re: #1285 avanti

Oddly, many on the right quite rightly criticize a someone for welfare fraud of a few grand, but go absolutely nuts when we stop AT&T getting a unearned billion dollar tax corporate welfare bonus.

So true. I'm signing off for the night. Sleep well, all.

1292 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:06:37pm

Anti-cussing teen activist chastises foul-mouthed Biden

The teenager who persuaded the California Assembly to approve a No Cussing resolution earlier this month has a message for Vice President Joe Biden: Watch your mouth.

South Pasadena High School student McKay Hatch has called a news conference for 3 p.m. Friday in front of his city's post office. He says he plans to ask the vice president to apologize for letting a profanity slip during a bill-signing ceremony earlier this week.

Afterward, Hatch, 17, plans to mail Biden one of his No Cussing Club's penalty jars and an official club T-shirt.

Heh.

1293 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:07:14pm

re: #1195 windsagio

Huh?

In the case of this song one would have to presume that somebody hated the USA in order to have it change their opinions.

Or, perhaps they loved the USA, but love curdled when exposed to too much Lee...

My problem is just the opposite. I am prone to manipulation. I once started crying in Walgreens when they were playing that stupid "where eagles fly" song. Don't tell anyone. They'd kick me out of the League of Urban Liberals.

1294 bratwurst  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:07:30pm

re: #1282 JasonA

I thought he was the Massabater?

In any case, let us all be grateful that he is now residing in the "where are they now" file. Now, if I could only erase the mental image of the shower confrontation with Rahm from my brain. :(

1295 Querent  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:08:03pm

it is i, the upding fairy!
let the snark reign...

1296 The Shadow Do  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:08:32pm

re: #1277 freetoken

From your link:

I take it you would rather return to the old way and have the gov't subsidizing the companies?

No, that is not so good either. Fuck the retirees, I say!

1297 Querent  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:09:20pm

re: #1293 SanFranciscoZionist

Or, perhaps they loved the USA, but love curdled when exposed to too much Lee...

My problem is just the opposite. I am prone to manipulation. I once started crying in Walgreens when they were playing that stupid "where eagles fly" song. Don't tell anyone. They'd kick me out of the League of Urban Liberals.

we're here for you, SFZ...

1298 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:09:44pm

re: #1240 Cato the Elder

It's the picture combined with the motto.

But I wouldn't presume to try to enlighten you.

Thank you for pointing that out. Foolishly I'd only paid attention to the picture - I should have known better.

Don't diss DF out of hand.

William

1299 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:09:50pm

re: #1199 EmmmieG

Ruffles on the shirt, right? (You're describing my uncle's wedding get-up. He had wavy hair to his shoulders, too, and a 'stache.)

Parents of a friend of mine got married in a park in Berkeley in 1968-69. He had a lime-green suit with ruffles. She wore a purple suede minidress. The cake almost didn't get there because there were students rioting on Telegraph, and the bakery dude only opened the door and shoved out the cake after much pleading from the father of the bride.

1300 Querent  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:10:29pm

re: #1296 The Shadow Do

No, that is not so good either. Fuck the retirees, I say!

YOU fuck 'em, i've seen 'em...

/Rocky Horror mode

1301 Ericus58  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:10:34pm

re: #1237 Dark_Falcon

It'll be interesting to see what happened. My bet is a mine or torpedo.

I vote mine.
Explosion to the aft end of the ship, keel based.
Not likely from onboard munitions, aft spaces are usually berthing spaces for the crew. Magazines are placed amidship.

1302 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:11:43pm

re: #1230 EmmmieG

Aisle??

My uncle is a hippie. His wedding (with the ruffled shirt tuxedo) was held in a field. Being Seattle, it was held under a tarp, and somebody played some kind of lute or something. My aunt had flowers in her hair.

We played soccer afterward.

My mother refers to that as 'a traditional wedding'. In the Bay Area, it sort of is.

1303 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:12:03pm

I'm off to enjoy the incredibly guilty pleasure known as Spartacus: Blood and Sand. Ciao, lizards.

1304 Querent  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:12:03pm

re: #1299 SanFranciscoZionist
was THAT the idea behind MacArthur Park?

1305 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:12:31pm

re: #1235 keloyd

I had a friend who raised some eyebrows by having a girl-minister officiate at the wedding. I was joking around calling her a 'priestess', but it wasn't my fault. They had an open bar.

I had a girl rabbi officiate at my wedding.

1306 The Shadow Do  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:12:46pm

Old people are just not paying their fair share.

1307 cliffster  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:12:52pm

No matter how good you are, there's always someone better. No matter how old you are, there's always someone older. Unless you're 143 years old. Then there's probably nobody older than you.

1308 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:13:49pm

re: #1305 SanFranciscoZionist

I had a girl rabbi officiate at my wedding.

Fist bump!

1309 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:15:10pm

re: #1243 EmmmieG

How long ago was this wedding? My cousin one-upped his father in hippie-ness by having his sister become a minister over the internet and perform the wedding.

He wanted her to be an important part of things.

Some friends of mine did that, not so much because of hippiness, but because the groom's parents almost died at the thought of him being married by some preacher they didn't KNOW. (And hadn't vetted for doctrinal soundness.)

They thought the groom's sister getting an Internet ministry and doing the wedding sounded fine, though.

(The bride's family and home church was in Korea, and the groom was about to be deployed, so the whole thing was sort of--complex. We got them married, though, which is the good part.)

1310 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:15:28pm

re: #1305 SanFranciscoZionist

I had a girl rabbi officiate at my wedding.

How long have Bat Mitzvahs been done? For ever, or is it a newer thing?

1311 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:15:29pm

Hospital wards to shut in secret NHS cuts

The sick would be urged to stay at home and email doctors rather than visit surgeries, while procedures such as hip replacements could be scrapped.

The plans have emerged as health chiefs draw up emergency budgets that cast doubt on pledges by Gordon Brown to protect “front line services” in the NHS.

Documents show that health chiefs are considering plans to begin sacking workers, cutting treatments and shutting wards across the country.

The proposals could lead to:

* 10 per cent of NHS staff being sacked in some areas.
* The loss of thousands of hospital beds.
* A reduction in the number of ambulance call-outs.
* Medical professionals being replaced by less qualified assistants.

The plans are contained in a series of internal NHS documents uncovered by The Daily Telegraph.

Ain't socialized medicine great?

1312 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:17:34pm

re: #1309 SanFranciscoZionist

Some friends of mine did that, not so much because of hippiness, but because the groom's parents almost died at the thought of him being married by some preacher they didn't KNOW. (And hadn't vetted for doctrinal soundness.)

They thought the groom's sister getting an Internet ministry and doing the wedding sounded fine, though.

(The bride's family and home church was in Korea, and the groom was about to be deployed, so the whole thing was sort of--complex. We got them married, though, which is the good part.)

In this case, the groom's parents have made up their own set of beliefs. I think there's something about a karma bank, and I'm pretty sure kindness to animals is a belief, (unless the animal is a fish, and is in water that my uncle is casting into, in which case no promises.) After that, um, not much doctrinal orthodoxy to anything.

1313 Bagua  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:17:53pm

re: #1266 Cato the Elder

Mandy addressed me directly for the first time in weeks tonight.

...


Well then, good for you, what an accomplishment!

You must feel important to be noticed.

1314 Querent  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:18:06pm

seems like there are more than a few of my fellow lizards on State-Funded Sabbatical these days, just on this thread...

1315 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:18:28pm

Bring in the cats! Coyote's doing their crazy yips.

1316 Bagua  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:19:18pm

re: #1305 SanFranciscoZionist

I had a girl rabbi officiate at my wedding.

That's nothing, I had a girl... well... um, never mind.

1317 Querent  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:19:23pm

the dubious quality of the puns, however, does not appear to have suffered.

1318 jaunte  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:19:45pm

re: #1315 Stanley Sea

Bring in the cats! Coyote's doing their crazy yips.

1319 Querent  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:21:20pm

re: #1315 Stanley Sea
Meow?

1320 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:21:52pm

re: #1310 EmmmieG

How long have Bat Mitzvahs been done? For ever, or is it a newer thing?

Most people say the first one was 1922 (Rabbi Mordechai Kaplan held one for his daughter), but there's some record of earlier celebrations of one sort or another.

The legal term has been around longer, of course, you become a bat mitzvah, a legal adult, at twelve. (Boys at thirteen.) In the olden, olden days that mostly had to do with some religious responsibilities, and eligibility for marriage.

1321 Ericus58  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:22:26pm

re: #1256 JasonA

I'm more of a classical kind of guy to be honest. Soemthing like this gets me teary:


[Video]

My son was at a hockey camp when this movie came out. I had taken the week off from work to be there to assist.
The kids would get together in a room to have lunch and review tape of the morning session for critique by the coaches. And at some point, there would be a round the horn talk by each on that day's subject.
One day the topic was "what is your favorite movie?"
One kid said the comedy flavor of the summer... and so on.
When it came my son's turn, he thought for a moment and then said "Saving Private Ryan".
That struck me on several levels.
Heading home that afternoon, I asked him why that movie?
"Because dad, they took care of each other. It's what you have to do."

I had to look away after saying "that's cool"... dad's don't tear up.

1322 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:24:05pm

re: #1312 EmmmieG

In this case, the groom's parents have made up their own set of beliefs. I think there's something about a karma bank, and I'm pretty sure kindness to animals is a belief, (unless the animal is a fish, and is in water that my uncle is casting into, in which case no promises.) After that, um, not much doctrinal orthodoxy to anything.

I actually have no clue what the family's denomination is. I do know that they wouldn't send their kids to Bible camp because it was too frivolous for them. They're hardcore somethings or others.

Their kids turned out nicely, though, and they seem to be good, albeit slightly wacky, people.

1323 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:24:34pm

re: #1318 jaunte

[Video]

That was cool. Animals see the camera lens as an eye.

1324 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:25:15pm

re: #1320 SanFranciscoZionist

Most people say the first one was 1922 (Rabbi Mordechai Kaplan held one for his daughter), but there's some record of earlier celebrations of one sort or another.

The legal term has been around longer, of course, you become a bat mitzvah, a legal adult, at twelve. (Boys at thirteen.) In the olden, olden days that mostly had to do with some religious responsibilities, and eligibility for marriage.

I realize it is time to go to bed when I had something brilliant to say, and it went into the well of lost thoughts.

Oh well.

It sounds cool. Have you ever heard of a kinaalda?

1325 swamprat  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:25:47pm

re: #1307 cliffster

No matter how good you are, there's always someone better. No matter how old you are, there's always someone older. Unless you're 143 years old. Then there's probably nobody older than you.

"Who are you, sir?"
"You have heard the expresion 'no matter how good you are, there is someone better?' "
"Yes sir"
"I am that person"

/Chuin, Master of the House of Sinanju

1326 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:26:01pm

I should add that I was present, totally by accident, at the first bat mitzvah/bat chayil/whatever held at the Orthodox Sephardi synagogue in San Francisco.

THAT was a trip.

1327 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:26:47pm

re: #1324 EmmmieG

I realize it is time to go to bed when I had something brilliant to say, and it went into the well of lost thoughts.

Oh well.

It sounds cool. Have you ever heard of a kinaalda?

I'm going to say it's a Native American adulthood ritual for girls from somewhere in the Southwest. Am I even vaguely on target?

1328 jaunte  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:26:56pm

re: #1323 Stanley Sea

Wonderful looking animals. One ran across Memorial Drive (near downtown Houston) in front of my truck one Sunday a while back, while I was in the middle of an an NPR story about the shrinking wilderness.

1329 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:27:23pm

re: #1327 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm going to say it's a Native American adulthood ritual for girls from somewhere in the Southwest. Am I even vaguely on target?

Bingo. (I learned all this by reading Tony Hillerman.)

1330 Bagua  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:27:31pm

That lazy motherfucker Stole My Check... and I want it back, I want my check back.

- RLB

1331 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:27:57pm

re: #1329 EmmmieG

Bingo. (I learned all this by reading Tony Hillerman.)

I think I read an article in Teen Cosmo or something. (Your source is more highbrow).

1332 swamprat  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:28:16pm

re: #1311 NJDhockeyfan

Hospital wards to shut in secret NHS cuts

"would be"

Ain't socialized medicine great?


Pure smoke.

1333 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:28:34pm

re: #1331 SanFranciscoZionist

It involves running. I would have flunked.

1334 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:30:50pm

A Chattanooga Police officer, while running radar at 1410 Workman Road on Sunday night, had his patrol car attacked by a ferocious bulldog. Officer Clayton Holmes said he had stopped to work on a report when he felt his car shaking. He got out to investigate and what he found was a bulldog chewing on his patrol car. The dog chewed two tires and the entire front bumper off of the car.

1335 The Left  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:31:15pm

re: #991 sattv4u2


Step 3) Harass her until she cries UNCLE and leaves al a Sharm?

This is a complete lie. Sharmuta harrassed myself and Jimmah for months. She left because her stalking, harassment, and behind the scenes emailing campaign failed.
Her lies were exposed.
She ran away crying forever when she realised Charles had a fiancee. That is fact-- it is the last time she ever posted here.

She also is one of the many weeping butthurt who left when Charles wouldn't ban her personal enemies.

1336 Bagua  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:34:22pm

Weed and Gal, me an them could a never inna malice.


- Alozade

Anyway, me don't want a girl who laughs like Alice.

1337 cliffster  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:35:03pm

Some of the most brilliant words ever written:


Saw it written and I saw it say
Pink moon is on its way
And none of you stand so tall
Pink moon gonna get you all
It's a pink moon
Hey, it's a pink moon
It's a pink, pink, pink, pink, pink moon.
It's a pink, pink, pink, pink, pink moon.

-- Nick Drake

1338 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:36:28pm

re: #1313 Bagua

Well then, good for you, what an accomplishment!

You must feel important to be noticed.

No, actually, it's your affection I crave. And I've just got it! Going to bed now with a Bagua blow-up doll.

1339 freetoken  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:39:45pm

Mugabe: No gay rights in Zimbabwe

Zimbabwe's president says gay rights will not be protected in a constitution being drawn up under a power-sharing deal.

State radio on Friday quoted President Robert Mugabe saying that Western rights groups have called for constitutional reforms to include gay rights. He calls that "insanity."

Same-sex acts are illegal in Zimbabwe. Mugabe once described homosexuals as "lower than pigs and dogs."

Condemnation of gays is common in Africa. Ugandan lawmakers have proposed imposing the death penalty on some gays. A gay couple is on trial in Malawi, charged with unnatural acts and gross indecency.

In Africa, only South Africa has legalized same-sex marriage. Even there the gap between the liberal constitution and social attitudes can be wide.

Tough lesson of the day: don't be gay in Africa. Especially if you are ruled over by a dictator.

1340 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:40:31pm

re: #1339 freetoken

I wouldn't want to be human in Zimbabwe, to tell you the truth.

1341 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:41:32pm

re: #1340 EmmmieG

I wouldn't want to be human in Zimbabwe, to tell you the truth.

Mugabe should be put up against a wall...a most foul human being

1342 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:42:20pm

re: #1334 NJDhockeyfan

That is the funniest thing I've seen in a long time

1343 Gus  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:42:51pm

re: #1339 freetoken

Mugabe: No gay rights in Zimbabwe

Tough lesson of the day: don't be gay in Africa. Especially if you are ruled over by a dictator.

There goes that RoP again.

No, wait...

//

1344 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:43:16pm

re: #1335 iceweasel

This is a complete lie. Sharmuta harrassed myself and Jimmah for months. She left because her stalking, harassment, and behind the scenes emailing campaign failed.
Her lies were exposed.
She ran away crying forever when she realised Charles had a fiancee. That is fact-- it is the last time she ever posted here.


She also is one of the many weeping butthurt who left when Charles wouldn't ban her personal enemies.

wrong...as much of the rest

1345 Querent  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:43:34pm

re: #1325 swamprat

"Who are you, sir?"
"You have heard the expresion 'no matter how good you are, there is someone better?' "
"Yes sir"
"I am that person"

/Chuin, Master of the House of Sinanju

A thousand updings for the Master of Sinanju!

1346 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:46:02pm

I'd rather be gay in Africa than be an African-American who voted for Obamacare.

1347 freetoken  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:46:44pm

re: #1340 EmmmieG

I wouldn't want to be human in Zimbabwe, to tell you the truth.

Neither would I. Such a shame that a truly despicable leader remains in power regardless of the efforts of many.

1348 Querent  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:47:08pm

re: #1338 Cato the Elder

No, actually, it's your affection I crave. And I've just got it! Going to bed now with a Bagua blow-up doll.

that's about 35 levels of wrong... but at least it'll bring you good feng shui.

1349 Bagua  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:47:32pm

re: #1338 Cato the Elder

No, actually, it's your affection I crave. And I've just got it! Going to bed now with a Bagua blow-up doll.

Hey, I sent you that for research purposes only! Read the contract.

1350 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:49:58pm

Seriously, actually, going to leave you all now. Have a nice night.

1351 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:50:00pm

re: #1346 Cato the Elder

huh?

1352 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:50:21pm

Later friends. I need to get 40 winks.

The Blues Queen of New Orleans, Marva Wright, has died. Enjoy a video of her awesome talent.

1353 Bagua  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:51:23pm

re: #1346 Cato the Elder

I'd rather be gay in Africa than be an African-American who voted for Obamacare.

That pun sailed right above me head too, splain' please.

1354 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:52:32pm

re: #1352 NJDhockeyfan

Later friends. I need to get 40 winks.

The Blues Queen of New Orleans, Marva Wright, has died. Enjoy a video of her awesome talent.


[Video]

Marva is gone?...Koko and now Marva....so sad

1355 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:52:36pm

re: #1353 Bagua

I re read it, I think I get the gist now

1356 The Left  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:53:47pm

re: #1344 albusteve

wrong...as much of the rest

As usual, you don't know what you're talking about.

Assuming you do in fact care about her, it would be a good idea to drop the subject.

1357 Bagua  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:55:16pm

Smoke an Acre


- Alozade & Mr Vegas
1358 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:55:53pm

re: #1354 albusteve

Marva is gone?...Koko and now Marva...so sad

They left behind some wonderful music that generations will enjoy. RIP to both of them.

1359 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:56:03pm

Good...morning???
Can't sleep with this damn headache.

1360 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:58:09pm

re: #1351 Stanley Sea

huh?

In Africa, you can pretend and hide in the closet.

In Congress, votes are public and you get called a "n***g" or worse.

Just sayin'.

1361 Gus  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:59:38pm

re: #1347 freetoken

Neither would I. Such a shame that a truly despicable leader remains in power regardless of the efforts of many.

With regards to gay rights I doubt anything will ever change in Zimbabwe for the next 500 years. I mean, take a look at how rather archaic our Constitutional government treats gays in this country. Plus, there's not enough oil in Zimbabwe to justify "nation building" or even a fleeting interest. Primarily though race is the biggest factor. If this were taking place in an Anglo-European nation (i.e. white) there would be global outrage from the Western nations.

1362 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:01:35pm

re: #1361 Gus 802

With regards to gay rights I doubt anything will ever change in Zimbabwe for the next 500 years. I mean, take a look at how rather archaic our Constitutional government treats gays in this country. Plus, there's not enough oil in Zimbabwe to justify "nation building" or even a fleeting interest. Primarily though race is the biggest factor. If this were taking place in an Anglo-European nation (i.e. white) there would be global outrage from the Western nations.

Which is, paradoxically, an argument for "Zimbabwe" still being "Rhodesia".

Something that a rational person might not totally disavow.

1363 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:02:00pm

re: #1360 Cato the Elder

I got it on 2nd read.

1364 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:03:08pm

re: #1356 iceweasel

As usual, you don't know what you're talking about.

Assuming you do in fact care about her, it would be a good idea to drop the subject.

maybe you should take your own advice...your incessant victimization gig won you an audience...so be it...but let me remind you that harassment and stalking are subjective and you are guilty of your share of both

1365 Gus  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:04:57pm

re: #1359 Varek Raith

Good...morning???
Can't sleep with this damn headache.

Still? From quitting coffee?

1366 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:05:23pm

Night all!

I have family from Zimbabwe - much to share, but eyes are closing. Please let's talk again.

1367 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:05:35pm

re: #1139 Cato the Elder

I will. I'm too busy working on a set of Cantos about you.

Mandy, just so you know, isn't worth the canticle.

1368 Bagua  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:06:02pm

Angrier Management Riddim


- Bling Dawg

We na trust

1369 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:06:48pm

re: #1365 Gus 802

Still? From quitting coffee?

4 to 5 big cups a day for 5+ years... Cut it down to just 2 normal mugs.

More addicted to it than I thought.

1370 The Left  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:06:49pm

re: #1364 albusteve

maybe you should take your own advice...your incessant victimization gig won you an audience...so be it...but let me remind you that harassment and stalking are subjective and you are guilty of your share of both

Bollocks.

1371 albusteve  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:07:26pm

I'm out like AGW

1372 Bagua  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:07:59pm

re: #1371 albusteve

I'm out like AGW

Good night Steve.

1373 cliffster  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:08:24pm

re: #1371 albusteve

I'm out like AGW

night gramps

1374 Gus  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:10:16pm

re: #1369 Varek Raith

4 to 5 big cups a day for 5+ years... Cut it down to just 2 normal mugs.

More addicted to it than I thought.

You know. The first time I ever heard that was from Merv Griffin. He explained that once on his show. My brother went through that. This morning I had no coffee and I could handle it. Talk about lethargy. So off I went down the street to get my superduper espresso roast ground bean. I drink about 2 mugs a day. Used to drink more. I've actually gotten used to being lethargic.

1375 cliffster  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:11:05pm

re: #1369 Varek Raith

4 to 5 big cups a day for 5+ years... Cut it down to just 2 normal mugs.

More addicted to it than I thought.

Caffeine will get ya. I don't get migraines, but I can't imagine a headache worse than the second day of "I'm going to quit this coffee thing". I'm not going to compare sex with the cup of coffee you have when you say "fuck it" on day three - it would open me up for ridicule.

1376 freetoken  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:11:46pm

Did anyone else see this?

1377 Bagua  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:13:53pm

General Principle - Your academics inadmissible


- Louis Logic
1378 The Left  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:15:39pm

This get mentioned yet?

Stand Up For Your Confederate Southern Heritage

With roughly one week until census forms are due, a group of Confederate rights activists is urging southerners with Confederate ancestors to declare themselves “Confederate Southern Americans” on census forms in order to qualify for national origin protection under the 1964 Civil Rights Act.Federal law makes it illegal to discriminate because of a person’s birthplace, ancestry, culture or language. The South North Carolina-based Southern Legal Resource Center believes that people with ancestors who were citizens of the Confederate States of America should be entitled to ethnic identity and protection since the country no longer exists.

Question 9 of the census form asks respondents to identify their race and lists White, Black/African American/Negro, American Indian, Native Alaskan, Japanese and Korean as options, among others. But it also leaves a box with 19 blank spaces for anyone who wants to write in another race not listed.

“Fill in ‘Confed Southern Am.’ … This will put your Confederate nationality on the record. It’s just that simple,” SLRC Chief Trial Counsel Kirk D. Lyons says in a video posted on YouTube (see above) and Facebook.

Lyons continues: “We can start the process to give the southern community here in America a voice again, so that our concerns will be heard, and so that we will stop being harassed and persecuted because we are proud of our southern and Confederate ancestry.” The group has defended teachers and other activists who have been fired or disciplined in other ways for refusing to remove the Confederate flag from classrooms and other public places.

1379 The Left  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:16:13pm

re: #1376 freetoken

Hey! That's it! :)

1380 Gus  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:16:50pm

re: #1376 freetoken

Did anyone else see this?

[Video]

Kirk D. Lyons:

Lyons says he represented active Klan members and others in trouble because, "I was one of the few attorneys who would give them the time of day."

Lyons also observes that the KKK has never been able to control its "wilder spirits."

Back in 1992, Lyons told Green Line that he had in fact participated in numerous white-supremacist activities – but only, he maintained, as a learning experience, or else to protect the participants' legal rights. "I've been to cross lightings, Hitler birthday parties and Aryan meetings," he said, adding, "They were educational experiences for me."

Asked by Xpress for his own evidence that he's not a white supremacist, Lyons answers: "How do you prove the negative? I don't know that."

also:

In the Lyons Den Despite his extremism, Kirk Lyons, a white supremacist lawyer whose clients have been a 'Who's Who' of the radical right, is becoming the attorney for the neo-Confederate movement


Across the South, a 43-year-old lawyer with a fondness for dressing up in black top hats and Scottish kilts is popping up as a key player in the burgeoning neo-Confederate movement. From Texas to Alabama to South Carolina, Kirk D. Lyons, "chief trial counsel" of the Southern Legal Resource Center (SLRC), has presented himself as the legal savior of the beleaguered South.

No matter that he has attended and spoken at a slew of white supremacist events around the nation. No matter that he has walked at the head of a Klan parade, lionized Adolf Hitler as "probably the most misunderstood man in German history," and reportedly proposed carving America up into racial mini-states.

1381 Gus  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:17:45pm

re: #1378 iceweasel

This get mentioned yet?

Stand Up For Your Confederate Southern Heritage

Surprise, surprise!

Yeah, seen this jack-off before. It's like fishing with grenades.

/

1382 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:18:49pm

re: #1375 cliffster

Caffeine will get ya. I don't get migraines, but I can't imagine a headache worse than the second day of "I'm going to quit this coffee thing". I'm not going to compare sex with the cup of coffee you have when you say "fuck it" on day three - it would open me up for ridicule.

At some point, the geniuses who run the surgery departments figured something out.

You know? When you go in to have your appendectomy or whatever (presuming it's scheduled and not an emergency), they tell you not to have anything to eat or drink for at least 12 hours beforehand. They schedule you for eight in the morning. So, nothing from eight the previous evening.

Then they operate on you at two in the afternoon, and you wake up at five with a raging headache and demand expensive pain pills.

Well, at some point a coffee-addict surgeon put two and two together. Started offering freshly revived surgery patients a cuppa joe. Cut down on the post-op pain-pill bills by 75%.

Too bad we don't award knighthoods in this country. "Sir Coffee" sounds like a title I'd like to hold.

1383 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:19:53pm

re: #1378 iceweasel

This get mentioned yet?

Stand Up For Your Confederate Southern Heritage

Words cannot even begin to express all the things that are wrong with this concept.

LOLWhut?

1384 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:20:08pm

re: #1321 Ericus58

dad's don't tear up.

That's a sentiment I'd like to see go away. Awesome story, though.

1385 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:20:17pm

re: #1378 iceweasel

Yeesh!

Me and my Vampire brethren are gonna summon a Nephilim down upon these fools, wanna watch?
;)

1386 freetoken  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:20:23pm

re: #1379 iceweasel

BTW, their website has an "Editorials" section, which links to three essays.

One of them is by..... RSM.

Color us surprised?

1387 Bagua  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:21:37pm

Sick or you're sad, this music make you feel so glad

Disco Reggae


- King Yellowman
1388 The Left  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:21:59pm

re: #1385 Varek Raith

Yeesh!

Me and my Vampire brethren are gonna summon a Nephilim down upon these fools, wanna watch?
;)

I wanna front row seat!

1389 freetoken  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:23:50pm

Indeed, it makes sense that RSM has written about them in the past:

[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

I wonder what RSM put down on the census?

1390 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:24:33pm

re: #1389 freetoken

Indeed, it makes sense that RSM has written about them in the past:

[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

I wonder what RSM put down on the census?

Racist Asshat???

1391 Gus  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:24:42pm

re: #1386 freetoken

BTW, their website has an "Editorials" section, which links to three essays.

One of them is by... RSM.

Color us surprised?

Don Black: White Pride World Wide

Though Black claims to be a "White Nationalist," not a hatemonger, his idea of "White Pride" involves demeaning, demonizing and menacing Jews and non-whites, and his concept of "victory" includes the creation of ethnically cleansed political enclaves.

Since its creation, Stormfront has served as a veritable supermarket of online hate, stocking its shelves with many forms of anti-Semitism and racism. In its first two years, Stormfront featured the writings of William Pierce of the neo-Nazi National Alliance; David Duke; representatives of the Holocaust-denying Institute for Historical Review and other assorted extremists. Conspiracy-laden discussions of the destruction of the Branch Davidian complex in Waco, Texas; the shootout at Ruby Ridge, Idaho, between the FBI and white-separatist Randy Weaver; and the bombing of the Murrah Federal Office Building in Oklahoma City appeared on the site's Home Page. In one article, Kirk Lyons, defender and self-proclaimed sympathizer of right-wing extremists, likened the events at the Branch Davidian compound to the Nazi destruction of the town of Lidice in Czechoslovakia. In another piece, Eustace Mullins, an aged anti-Semitic conspiracy theorist who has spread hate for more than 40 years, suggested that the likely party responsible for the bombing in Oklahoma City is the Anti-Defamation League.9 In addition to text articles, early versions of Stormfront housed a library of neo-Nazi graphics available for downloading, a list of phone numbers for racist computer bulletin boards that were not on the Internet, and a short page of links to other hateful Web sites.

Google "kirk lyons" site:adl.org

1392 cliffster  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:24:48pm

re: #1382 Cato the Elder

I don't know whether there's any truth to all that, but funny either way.

1393 Gus  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:26:16pm

Joe Wilson, Neoconfederate
By Scott Horton

Back in 1856, South Carolina Congressman Preston Brooks took offense to an anti-slavery speech delivered by Massachusetts abolitionist Senator Charles Sumner. Accompanied by another congressman from the Palmetto state, Laurence M. Keitt, Brooks waited until Sumner was almost alone on the floor of the Senate and then approached him. He called Sumner’s speech a “libel on South Carolina,” and then raised a thick gold-capped cane over Sumner’s head and began to strike him. Brooks continued to deliver blows to Sumner’s head until his stout cane broke and Sumner collapsed in a pool of blood on the floor. When several senators came to Sumner’s defense, Keitt brandished a pistol in their face and warned them to keep away. Sumner barely escaped with his life and was incapacitated for a full three years.

SNIP

1394 The Left  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:26:48pm

re: #1381 Gus 802

Surprise, surprise!

Yeah, seen this jack-off before. It's like fishing with grenades.

/

Speaking of jack-offs, our pal Jeff G. is terribly butthurt that people objected to that despicable Darleen Click cartoon portraying Obama raping the Statue of Liberty.

Poor Jeffie.

1395 Gus  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:27:18pm

re: #1393 Gus 802

Joe Wilson, Neoconfederate
By Scott Horton

In 2003, Wilson attacked Strom Thurmond’s natural biracial daughter, Essie Mae Washington-Williams, saying her public acknowledgement of her parentage shortly after Thurmond’s death was “a smear” designed to “diminish Thurmond’s legacy.” Wilson launched his political career working as an aide to Senator Thurmond and has continuously held the staunch segregationist as a hero.

1396 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:27:43pm

OK, everyone, repeat after me: "For the purposes of the U.S. Census, I am white."

1397 Ericus58  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:28:10pm

I've had my last beer, and watched my last video for the night.

Sleep, that wonderful bliss, does beckon.
To all I say good night.
Tomorrow brings the dawn, and with it newness.

And good relatives to drink with again, flailing about with our Wii controllers.. making good fun at our glorious attempts to best the top score.

1398 Gus  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:28:25pm

re: #1394 iceweasel

Speaking of jack-offs, our pal Jeff G. is terribly butthurt that people objected to that despicable Darleen Click cartoon portraying Obama raping the Statue of Liberty.

Poor Jeffie.

Saw that coming. It's like a 24 barrage from the Pablum Puking Wingnuts™.

1399 Ericus58  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:28:40pm

re: #1394 iceweasel

Speaking of jack-offs, our pal Jeff G. is terribly butthurt that people objected to that despicable Darleen Click cartoon portraying Obama raping the Statue of Liberty.

Poor Jeffie.

that's just wrong....

1400 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:29:11pm

re: #1394 iceweasel

Speaking of jack-offs, our pal Jeff G. is terribly butthurt that people objected to that despicable Darleen Click cartoon portraying Obama raping the Statue of Liberty.

Poor Jeffie.

Pathetic. Defend an abstract concept of 'speech' hard enough, and you never have to discuss what's actually being said, and if the ideas expressed are defensible.

1401 The Left  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:29:56pm

re: #1398 Gus 802

Saw that coming. It's like a 24 barrage from the Pablum Puking Wingnuts™.

Yeah. BTW, amazing stuff at your google link on Lyons. Words fail me.

1402 Ericus58  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:30:15pm

And don't be hatin' on ole Jack Bauer now... he's a tortured soul, looking for redemption.....

or another season.

1403 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:30:48pm

re: #1395 Gus 802

In 2003, Wilson attacked Strom Thurmond’s natural biracial daughter, Essie Mae Washington-Williams, saying her public acknowledgement of her parentage shortly after Thurmond’s death was “a smear” designed to “diminish Thurmond’s legacy.” Wilson launched his political career working as an aide to Senator Thurmond and has continuously held the staunch segregationist as a hero.

Yes, because a black woman's right to tell the truth about her family should always take a back seat to a white man's 'legacy'.

Sorry dude. We played by those rules for a long time. There's a new deck of cards on the table.

1404 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:30:48pm

re: #1394 iceweasel

Speaking of jack-offs, our pal Jeff G. is terribly butthurt that people objected to that despicable Darleen Click cartoon portraying Obama raping the Statue of Liberty.

Poor Jeffie.

I'll call it in.

1405 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:31:22pm

re: #1392 cliffster

I don't know whether there's any truth to all that, but funny either way.

It's absolutely true. I have relatives in the biz.

1406 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:31:45pm

re: #1396 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, everyone, repeat after me: "For the purposes of the U.S. Census, I am white."

Then again, as far as these folks are concerned, I might not be white.

Although, AFAIK, I could have some 'Southern Confederate Heritage'. Not sure.

1407 Gus  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:33:25pm

re: #1401 iceweasel

Yeah. BTW, amazing stuff at your google link on Lyons. Words fail me.

As Charles would say, "what racism?" Lyons is connected to the Country Club Clan (aka Council of Conservative Citizens). Defended by wingnut darling Ann Coulter. And of course there's Joe Wilson and others.

1408 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:33:44pm

re: #1406 SanFranciscoZionist

Then again, as far as these folks are concerned, I might not be white.

Although, AFAIK, I could have some 'Southern Confederate Heritage'. Not sure.

I'm a...SwedishItalianBlackFootIndianCherokeeIrish-American!
Genealogy is fun.
:)

1409 The Left  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:35:02pm

re: #1399 Ericus58

that's just wrong...

Here's the cartoon in question for those who want to see it.

BTW, the poster on PW who goes by "The Sanity Inspector" isn't our own Sanity Inspector, is it? Anyone know?

1410 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:36:51pm

Storm

A nice little pick-me-up.

1411 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:37:06pm

re: #1408 Varek Raith

I'm a...SwedishItalianBlackFootIndianCherokeeIrish-Ame rican!
Genealogy is fun.
:)

There's a Chicana essayist, Michelle Serros, who wrote an essay about being asked where she's 'really from'. (The answer is "Oxnard, CA")

She has a fantasy about turning the tables and asking white people on planes where they're 'really from'.

I always wanted to write and warn her NOT TO DO THAT. As a European American mutt myself, I can assure her that we can and will answer that question at great length. Unless she wants to spend the flight tracking the path of the white person's ancestors across Sweden, Ireland, parts of Germany, the Midwest, to California during the Dust Bowl, and their possible descent from Charlemagne, she shouldn't ask.

1412 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:38:12pm

re: #1411 SanFranciscoZionist

There's a Chicana essayist, Michelle Serros, who wrote an essay about being asked where she's 'really from'. (The answer is "Oxnard, CA")

She has a fantasy about turning the tables and asking white people on planes where they're 'really from'.

I always wanted to write and warn her NOT TO DO THAT. As a European American mutt myself, I can assure her that we can and will answer that question at great length. Unless she wants to spend the flight tracking the path of the white person's ancestors across Sweden, Ireland, parts of Germany, the Midwest, to California during the Dust Bowl, and their possible descent from Charlemagne, she shouldn't ask.

Heh, indeed.
As an aside, I forgot to add German to my list.
:)

1413 Cato the Elder  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:38:37pm

re: #1406 SanFranciscoZionist

Then again, as far as these folks are concerned, I might not be white.

Although, AFAIK, I could have some 'Southern Confederate Heritage'. Not sure.

I got my census form on Monday. The regular, unobtrusive, innocuous short form.

Two days later I got a postcard reminding me that filling out the census form is my legal obligation.

For that they are so antsy about it and all, I am now going to write "Roman citizen" in the line provided for "other" under the race question.

If they contact me, I'll inform them that as a Catholic I am entirely within bounds.

Because I can.

And we'll take it from there.

The right wing is not alone in wanting to fuck with the government. There was a huge anti-census movement on the left the last time Germany tried to implement a thorough head-count. One might almost say the Germans had learned a lesson or two.

1414 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:39:39pm

re: #1411 SanFranciscoZionist

Ain't that the truth. From Slovakia to Italy to Germany to Britain. I'm like the European gene pool's drainage ditch.

1415 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:39:47pm

re: #1413 Cato the Elder

I got my census form on Monday. The regular, unobtrusive, innocuous short form.

Two days later I got a postcard reminding me that filling out the census form is my legal obligation.

For that they are so antsy about it and all, I am now going to write "Roman citizen" in the line provided for "other" under the race question.

If they contact me, I'll inform them that as a Catholic I am entirely within bounds.

Because I can.

And we'll take it from there.

The right wing is not alone in wanting to fuck with the government. There was a huge anti-census movement on the left the last time Germany tried to implement a thorough head-count. One might almost say the Germans had learned a lesson or two.

"For the purposes of the U.S. Census I am white."

1416 Gus  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:41:35pm

re: #1409 iceweasel

Here's the cartoon in question for those who want to see it.

BTW, the poster on PW who goes by "The Sanity Inspector" isn't our own Sanity Inspector, is it? Anyone know?

They're so clueless. I see they're trying to compare the symbolism of "Bush as ____" to Obama as a "black man raping a white woman (i.e. Lady Liberty)". Can people be that out of touch with modern America? What planet are they from. Sure, they have the freedom according to the 1st Amendment to which I conclude that they are dumber than a stump. Or at least pretending to be an are in fact evil. Many would call this a form acceptable racism.

1417 Bagua  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:41:54pm

Gal Over Gun


- TOK
1418 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:42:16pm

re: #1414 JasonA

Ain't that the truth. From Slovakia to Italy to Germany to Britain. I'm like the European gene pool's drainage ditch.

Not to mention the F.E.V...
;)

1419 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:43:17pm

re: #1414 JasonA

Ain't that the truth. From Slovakia to Italy to Germany to Britain. I'm like the European gene pool's drainage ditch.

Ashkenazim--Litvaks mostly, Irish, English, German, a dab of Welsh, a dab of Dutch, Lord knows.

From my husband, our kids will get Irish, English, French, Cherokee, Creek, and his mother claims African, but I can't tell if she really knows that, or is just yanking the rest of the family's chain.

(Once, when my husband was bemoaning his pronounced backside, I told him to think of it as his inheritance from Africa. He muttered, "I'd rather be able to jump.")

1420 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:43:26pm

re: #1418 Varek Raith

Not to mention the F.E.V...
;)

Did you know the super-mutants used to be men and women?

*shudders*

1421 Velvet Elvis  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:44:47pm

re: #1409 iceweasel

Here's the cartoon in question for those who want to see it.

BTW, the poster on PW who goes by "The Sanity Inspector" isn't our own Sanity Inspector, is it? Anyone know?

I really didn't need to see that

1422 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:44:58pm

re: #1419 SanFranciscoZionist

lol

The four I mentioned are the ones I'm sure about. I've heard tell of Scotch-Irish and Spanish and blah blah blah. Whatever. I'm American, and that'll do nicely.

1423 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:45:05pm

re: #1420 JasonA

Did you know the super-mutants used to be men and women?

*shudders*

Yeah...though, it is somewhat better than having a tree grow outta your head!

1424 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:46:00pm

re: #1423 Varek Raith

Yeah...though, it is somewhat better than having a tree grow outta your head!

I miss that game. And the computer I used to play it on :(

1425 Velvet Elvis  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:46:00pm

re: #1413 Cato the Elder

My gf has relatives who write in "Mormon" as their race.

1426 Gus  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:46:03pm

Dear Jeff Goldberg at Protein Wisdom,

I support your right to freedom of speech including said cartoon.

As a firm believer in free speech I would also like to add that you are not in fact a jerk, but an asshole.

Sincerely,

Gus

1427 The Left  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:47:00pm

re: #1421 Conservative Moonbat

I really didn't need to see that

Yeah, it's been quite the minor blog scandal. Sorry, but I did warn you...that Darleen Click person is a hateful wacko.

1428 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:47:19pm

re: #1424 JasonA

I miss that game. And the computer I used to play it on :(

There is New Vegas to look forward to in the fall.

1429 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:47:25pm

re: #1425 Conservative Moonbat

My gf has relatives who write in "Mormon" as their race.

Let's try this again. "For the purposes of the US Census..."

Although my mother wanted to list my husband as Native American, not because she thinks the Census needs to know, but to give the information to descendents who might want to know.

1430 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:48:26pm

re: #1428 Varek Raith

There is New Vegas to look forward to in the fall.

Bah. I need to find more work.

1431 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:49:02pm

re: #1430 JasonA

Bah. I need to find more work.

Same here, seeing as I don't have a gaming rig...

1432 sngnsgt  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:49:20pm

kgb's banned Super Bowl commercial, "In the Hole,"

1433 Velvet Elvis  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:49:53pm

re: #1427 iceweasel

Yeah, it's been quite the minor blog scandal. Sorry, but I did warn you...that Darleen Click person is a hateful wacko.

It always amazes me how misogynistic some conservative women can be. I don't know if it's self-hatred or what.

1434 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:50:22pm

re: #1432 sngnsgt

Heh.
:D

1435 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:50:37pm

re: #1432 sngnsgt

kgb's banned Super Bowl commercial, "In the Hole,"

[Video]

Eh, haven't we seen more offensive things on Family Guy?

1436 Velvet Elvis  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:51:03pm

re: #1429 SanFranciscoZionist

Let's try this again. "For the purposes of the US Census..."

Although my mother wanted to list my husband as Native American, not because she thinks the Census needs to know, but to give the information to descendents who might want to know.

I was tempted to put "Jedi," just because.

1437 Gus  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:51:08pm

re: #1427 iceweasel

Yeah, it's been quite the minor blog scandal. Sorry, but I did warn you...that Darleen Click person is a hateful wacko.

Hey Ice. There was something else about Darleen Click that happened a couple of months ago. I think it was her. Some rather dumb blog post she made regarding sex? I forgot. Maybe it wasn't her.

1438 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:51:32pm

re: #1433 Conservative Moonbat

It always amazes me how misogynistic some conservative women can be. I don't know if it's self-hatred or what.

Ever looked into Twilight? Lemme tell you, Stephanie Meyer has a lock on woman hating from all that I've gathered.

1439 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:51:45pm

re: #1435 JasonA

Eh, haven't we seen more offensive things on Family Guy?

Srsly.

1440 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:52:31pm

re: #1439 Varek Raith

Srsly.

For the record I do think the ad was kinda dumb.

1441 Velvet Elvis  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:52:31pm

re: #1438 JasonA

Ever looked into Twilight? Lemme tell you, Stephanie Meyer has a lock on woman hating from all that I've gathered.

I've read a summery of the final novel in the series. It's some sick shit. I don't see how they are going to be able to make a film of it.

1442 Gus  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:52:57pm

re: #1432 sngnsgt

kgb's banned Super Bowl commercial, "In the Hole,"

[Video]

Why would they ban something like that? At worst it could be seen as being silly. Seems kind of funny.

1443 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:52:58pm

re: #1438 JasonA

Ever looked into Twilight? Lemme tell you, Stephanie Meyer has a lock on woman hating from all that I've gathered.

That, and making us true Vampires look like emo pricks...
:/

1444 The Left  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:53:03pm

re: #1433 Conservative Moonbat

It always amazes me how misogynistic some conservative women can be. I don't know if it's self-hatred or what.

They've internalised the notion that women are inferior. Such woman always see themselves as the 'exception' to all other women, of course. Cf. Coulter's comments about how women shouldn't have the vote.

It should also be noted that misogyny amongst women is not confined to the right, either. There were many hateful comments made about Palin by women on the left. I can't stand Palin myself, but you'd think that lefty women commentators would realise that saying that Palin can't govern because she's a mother (which was one of the milder comments) is a heaping pile of misogynistic bullshit.

1445 sngnsgt  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:53:18pm

re: #1435 JasonA

Exactly...

1446 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:53:46pm

re: #1441 Conservative Moonbat

I've read a summery of the final novel in the series. It's some sick shit. I don't see how they are going to be able to make a film of it.

If they do make one true the novel I wanna see it. Directed by David Cronenberg.

1447 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:54:10pm

re: #1443 Varek Raith

That, and making us true Vampires look like emo pricks...
:/

Who sparkle.

1448 The Left  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:55:01pm

re: #1437 Gus 802

Hey Ice. There was something else about Darleen Click that happened a couple of months ago. I think it was her. Some rather dumb blog post she made regarding sex? I forgot. Maybe it wasn't her.

Hmmm...not ringing an immediate bell. I'll go see what I can dig up. Wouldn't be surprised though. Darleen Click is demented.

1449 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:55:09pm

re: #1441 Conservative Moonbat

I've read a summery of the final novel in the series. It's some sick shit. I don't see how they are going to be able to make a film of it.

Oh??? Carnage? Death? DESTRUCTION?

1450 Mocking Jay  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:55:52pm

re: #1449 Varek Raith

Oh??? Carnage? Death? DESTRUCTION?

Try a baby vampire who has to be bitten out of his mother's uterus.

No, I'm not making that up.

1451 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:56:21pm

re: #1450 JasonA

Try a baby vampire who has to be bitten out of his mother's uterus.

No, I'm not making that up.

Sigh...

1452 Velvet Elvis  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:57:47pm

re: #1449 Varek Raith

Oh??? Carnage? Death? DESTRUCTION?

The parts I remember involve a C-section performed by biting through the flesh and an teenaged wolfman falling madly in love with a baby.

1453 Varek Raith  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:57:56pm

re: #1451 Varek Raith

Sigh...

I mean... What are we, freaking chest-busting aliens now?!?!
.
.
.
.
.
Sigh.

1454 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:58:31pm

re: #1443 Varek Raith

That, and making us true Vampires look like emo pricks...
:/

Foo on Twiight. Childish twaddle. Want a great vamp story?

"Let The Right One In"

Exquisite in novel or film form. Get's the important bits right.

William

1455 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:58:31pm

re: #1449 Varek Raith

Oh??? Carnage? Death? DESTRUCTION?

Pregnancy.

1456 Velvet Elvis  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 11:59:53pm

I've seen none of the Twightlight movies and and read none of the books but kinda want to get the first movie just for the rifftracks.

1457 Gus  Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:00:13am

re: #1448 iceweasel

Hmmm...not ringing an immediate bell. I'll go see what I can dig up. Wouldn't be surprised though. Darleen Click is demented.

Yeah, and you know she and her ilk will try to justify it because after all, Obama represents the end of the world as we know it! Right. I'm almost 50 and have been seeing these "prophecies" for a long time. They need a couple of hits of Valium or something. Perhaps a Vicodin with a Chardonnay or Vodka tonic chaser.

/You listening Vodkapundit?

1458 Velvet Elvis  Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:01:16am

click on "watch sample"
[Link: www.rifftrax.com...]

1459 Mocking Jay  Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:01:32am

re: #1456 Conservative Moonbat

I've seen none of the Twightlight movies and and read none of the books but kinda want to get the first movie just for the rifftracks.

The only way to watch it without banging your head against the wall.

And then there's Buffy meets Edward:

1460 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:02:46am

re: #1455 SanFranciscoZionist

Pregnancy.

*Must resist urge to use forbidden Blood Magic on her and her fans*
.
.
.
.
.
Ok, I'm good...for now.

1461 Velvet Elvis  Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:06:28am

I want to see if Robert Byrd rises from the dead.

1462 The Left  Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:06:52am

re: #1457 Gus 802

Yeah, and you know she and her ilk will try to justify it because after all, Obama represents the end of the world as we know it! Right. I'm almost 50 and have been seeing these "prophecies" for a long time. They need a couple of hits of Valium or something. Perhaps a Vicodin with a Chardonnay or Vodka tonic chaser.

/You listening Vodkapundit?

Just took a tour through Darleen's recent posts on PW. AGW-denier, massive Obama hate, hates feminism and Planned Parenthood, teabagging enthusiast, anti-gay marriage. She also posts over at the stalker blog occasionally.

Didn't turn up the post you mentioned, but she has a lot of hate for "Vagina Warriors" (Klassy!) and especially Amanda Marcotte at Pandagon, about whom she recently said this:

If I wanted to be impolite, I’d say the acrid harridan’s history of misandry and projection of hate from her own pitiful childhood should be met with a mere “Shut the fuck up, bitch. Who died and made you Queen?”

No wonder the haters at Protein Jizzdom love her.

1463 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:07:22am

I think I'm gonna go watch Lord of the Rings. Then, a walk. Then, bed.
Later.
:)

1464 The Left  Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:11:06am

re: #1459 JasonA

The only way to watch it without banging your head against the wall.

And then there's Buffy meets Edward:


[Video]

Heh. And this....Twilight, with Cheeseburgers.

1465 Gus  Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:12:58am

re: #1462 iceweasel

No wonder the haters at Protein Jizzdom love her.

Winger's on acid. That's how I see a lot of these people like Darleen Click. They're all part of the Great Wingnut Brain Trust. Yep, the crème de la crème. The graduates of Glenn Beck University and under the tutelage of other "great thinkers" like Limbaugh, Malkin, Levin, Jonah Goldberg, et al. I've come to the conclusion that wingnuttery is a mental illness.

1466 Gus  Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:14:28am
1467 Mocking Jay  Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:19:05am

re: #1464 iceweasel

Ew to those last few seconds!

1468 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:23:49am

re: #1406 SanFranciscoZionist

Then again, as far as these folks are concerned, I might not be white.

Although, AFAIK, I could have some 'Southern Confederate Heritage'. Not sure.

The DNA test for that would potentially be interesting.

1469 Cato the Elder  Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:46:36am

re: #1464 iceweasel

That's hysterical.

"You canz suck my boobies, but don't touch my cheeze!"

1470 Cato the Elder  Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:56:15am

re: #1459 JasonA

The only way to watch it without banging your head against the wall.

And then there's Buffy meets Edward.

ZOMFG!

Thank you for that. Exactly what Buffy (Joss Whedon's marvelous feminist icon) would do with a "sparkly" vamp like Edward. I'm going to send it to all my Twilight-loving friends, and the fallout be damned!

1471 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Mar 27, 2010 2:22:30am

re: #723 RogueOne

I think you're high.//

Actually I chuckled a bit at how hopeful you sounded about something earlier. Keep hope alive man.

Just for the record, a great GM car: [Link: jalopnik.com...]

...based on GM’s new global rear wheel drive platform (the same one as the new Camaro) and fitted with lower, stiffer suspension and a six-speed manual gearbox it strikes the right balance between supercar performance and real world practicality. Think E39 M5, but with a Corvette engine and better steering.


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