There are two possible outcomes: if the result confirms the hypothesis, then you’ve made a measurement. If the result is contrary to the hypothesis, then you’ve made a discovery.
— Enrico Fermi
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Digital Display Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:11:36am |
Good morning all..Watching F1 qualifying in Australia...
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Four More Tears Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:14:34am |
Umm... personal space?
George W. Bush Wipes Hand On Bill Clinton's Shirt After Shaking Hands With Haitians (VIDEO)
And no, I'm not Bush-bashing. That shit's just rude.
Oh, and give me credit for not making a "Ew, I just touched black people" joke.
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Gus Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:16:54am |
re: #3 JasonA
Umm... personal space?
George W. Bush Wipes Hand On Bill Clinton's Shirt After Shaking Hands With Haitians (VIDEO)And no, I'm not Bush-bashing. That shit's just rude.
Oh, and give me credit for not making a "Ew, I just touched black people" joke.
I saw that yesterday. I think we should give it a pass. It's hard to tell what's happening here. A few months ago they were passing around a photo of Obama that looked to be bowing which was a still from a video. The video showed that he wasn't bowing. Of course that didn't stop the nuttery.
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Gus Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:20:23am |
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Velvet Elvis Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:20:46am |
re: #4 Gus 802
I saw that yesterday. I think we should give it a pass. It's hard to tell what's happening here. A few months ago they were passing around a photo of Obama that looked to be bowing which was a still from a video. The video showed that he wasn't bowing. Of course that didn't stop the nuttery.
Yeah. I'm having a hard time getting upset over this one. He could have been trying to tug Bill along or whatever. Or considering what Bush did to Aristide, the dude could have had a loogie in his hand.
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Four More Tears Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:21:08am |
re: #4 Gus 802
Oh all right. Though even the commenters at Breibart think he was wiping. Not saying it makes him worst President ever. I just want to have Purell handy if I ever run into the guy :)
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Four More Tears Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:22:37am |
re: #6 Conservative Moonbat
Or considering what Bush did to Aristide, the dude could have had a loogie in his hand.
I... I don't think wiping it off on Clinton is an acceptable response in that situation :)
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Gus Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:23:01am |
re: #6 Conservative Moonbat
Yeah. I'm having a hard time getting upset over this one. He could have been trying to tug Bill along or whatever. Or considering what Bush did to Aristide, the dude could have had a loogie in his hand.
It's just good to see Bush and Clinton together and for a good cause.
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Four More Tears Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:23:57am |
re: #9 Gus 802
It's just good to see Bush and Clinton together and for a good cause.
This is true.
Wonder how many digits Bill picked up...
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Velvet Elvis Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:24:56am |
re: #8 JasonA
I... I don't think wiping it off on Clinton is an acceptable response in that situation :)
As opposed to Clinton who would wipe it off on an intern
(I'm going to hell)
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:24:59am |
re: #8 JasonA
I... I don't think wiping it off on Clinton is an acceptable response in that situation :)
LOL!
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sngnsgt Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:25:28am |
re: #10 JasonA
This is true.
Wonder how many digits Bill picked up...
Rule of thumb, never use Bill Clinton and "pick up" in the same sentence. ;-)
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Digital Display Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:28:31am |
re: #10 JasonA
This is true.
Wonder how many digits Bill picked up...
I got four digits for your mama
/OK.. It's a hip hop term...I'm messing with you guys..Qualifying for F1 is over..
It's 3:30am.. Getting sleepy
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:28:40am |
Creationist Science: select the fact that confirm what was written in the Bible and ignore anything and everything else put forth by the scientific "elite".
Then get the Texas Board of Education to put it in the curriculum
Teach the controversy.
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Gus Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:28:59am |
re: #10 JasonA
This is true.
Wonder how many digits Bill picked up...
Probably in the millions. Would be easy check.
Sad though. This hand thing picked up a lot of interest.
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Four More Tears Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:30:38am |
re: #16 Gus 802
Probably in the millions. Would be easy check.
Sad though. This hand thing picked up a lot of interest.
*shrug* I'm just in it for the jokes.
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Gus Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:33:20am |
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Ayeless in Ghazi Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:41:52am |
Hi and bye from myself and iceweasel (not long back from the pub). I leave you with this fascinating tale from Britain's colonial past. Listen closely or you'll miss the main points:
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RadicalModerate Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:42:18am |
What in the holy hell are the two judges on the 9th Circuit Court thinking here?
Court: Seattle police OK to stun pregnant woman
SEATTLE (AP) - Three Seattle police officers were justified when they used a stun gun on a pregnant mother who refused to sign a traffic ticket, a federal appeals court ruled Friday in a case that prompted an incredulous dissent.
Malaika Brooks was driving her son to Seattle's African American Academy in 2004 when she was stopped for doing 32 mph in a school zone. She insisted it was the car in front of her that was speeding, and refused to sign the ticket because she thought she'd be admitting guilt.
Rather than give her the ticket and let her go on her way, the officers decided to arrest her. One reached in, turned off her car and dropped the keys on the floor. Brooks stiffened her arms against the steering wheel and told the officers she was pregnant, but refused to get out, even after they threatened to stun her.
The officers - Sgt. Steven Daman, Officer Juan Ornelas and Officer Donald Jones - then stunned her three times, in the thigh, shoulder and neck, and hauled her out of the car, laying her face-down in the street.
Brooks gave birth to a healthy baby two months later, but has permanent scars from the Taser.
Never mind the fact that not signing a traffic ticket is not an arrestable offense in Seattle (as stated by the dissenting judge), but tasering a seven-months pregnant woman THREE TIMES?
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Digital Display Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:43:45am |
re: #20 Jimmah
Hi and bye from myself and iceweasel (not long back from the pub). I leave you with this fascinating tale from Britain's colonial past. Listen closely or you'll miss the main points:
[Video]
Kind regards...
How did Ice do during the Taxi ride home?
*wink*
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Gus Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:44:58am |
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Ayeless in Ghazi Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:44:59am |
re: #22 HoosierHoops
Kind regards...
How did Ice do during the Taxi ride home?
*wink*
Well behaved as ever ;-) Night Hoops!
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Four More Tears Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:45:19am |
re: #21 RadicalModerate
What in the holy hell are the two judges on the 9th Circuit Court thinking here?
Court: Seattle police OK to stun pregnant woman
Never mind the fact that not signing a traffic ticket is not an arrestable offense in Seattle (as stated by the dissenting judge), but tasering a seven-months pregnant woman THREE TIMES?
You'll no argument from me. It doesn't seem as if we have good guidelines for the use of tasers. I'd much rather get hit by that than a bullet, but for something actually important, you know?
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Digital Display Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:45:24am |
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laZardo Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:45:29am |
re: #21 RadicalModerate
Cops want any excuse to lay the beatdown these days.
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RadicalModerate Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:45:39am |
re: #21 RadicalModerate
Here's a link to the decision from the 9th Circuit Court if you want to read a lot of legalese, btw.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:45:49am |
re: #21 RadicalModerate
What in the holy hell are the two judges on the 9th Circuit Court thinking here?
Court: Seattle police OK to stun pregnant woman
Never mind the fact that not signing a traffic ticket is not an arrestable offense in Seattle (as stated by the dissenting judge), but tasering a seven-months pregnant woman THREE TIMES?
Ah, yes, the hyperliberal Ninth Circus Court...
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freetoken Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:47:24am |
re: #29 SanFranciscoZionist
Note that is was only three members. If the full 9th circuit hears the case, then the original ruling may be upheld.
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Four More Tears Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:48:33am |
re: #28 RadicalModerate
Here's a link to the decision from the 9th Circuit Court if you want to read a lot of legalese, btw.
I will add this though: don't argue at a friggin traffic stop. It's stupid and pointless. I'm not blaming the victim, but the time to stick up for your rights is in the courthouse. Just my thoughts.
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Gus Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:52:54am |
re: #31 JasonA
I will add this though: don't argue at a friggin traffic stop. It's stupid and pointless. I'm not blaming the victim, but the time to stick up for your rights is in the courthouse. Just my thoughts.
Dovetailing on this. It's pretty simple to me. If she was white she wouldn't have been tazed. If she was white the court would have ruled in her favor.
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RadicalModerate Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:54:47am |
re: #32 Gus 802
Gazing through some of the archived stories on the original suit - the original arrest was back in 2005 - there's a significant amount of speculation that may well have been a "Driving While Black" arrest. I'm not going to go that route, especially given the fact that cops have been known to taser 90-year-old ladies at the drop of a hat.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:57:30am |
re: #30 freetoken
Note that is was only three members. If the full 9th circuit hears the case, then the original ruling may be upheld.
Just being snide. The Ninth Circuit is going through a law-and-order phase that belies their batty reputation.
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Four More Tears Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:58:58am |
re: #32 Gus 802
Dovetailing on this. It's pretty simple to me. If she was white she wouldn't have been tazed. If she was white the court would have ruled in her favor.
Yikes. I wouldn't want to be the one to start that line of thought. My hat's off to you!
My best advice is to nod politely and say "Yes officer." Not because I want to see as bowing down to the state but because they usually have better toys. It's not a fight you're going to win and even if you do it'll probably be pyrrhic at best.
And with that I'm off to bed, leaving you all with Hung Over As The Queen In Maida Vale part 2.
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Gus Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:59:59am |
re: #33 RadicalModerate
Gazing through some of the archived stories on the original suit - the original arrest was back in 2005 - there's a significant amount of speculation that may well have been a "Driving While Black" arrest. I'm not going to go that route, especially given the fact that cops have been known to taser 90-year-old ladies at the drop of a hat.
OK Yeah. Must be rough for a cop to control a 90 year old woman that goes out of control. One would think a trained policeman could avoid that. I suppose that's different then using old fashioned muscle power. I think the office on the scene needing to use a tazer against a woman over 60, unless she's a muscle builder, to have weak upper body strength and shouldn't even be on the force to begin with.
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Gus Sat, Mar 27, 2010 1:04:01am |
They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security
Benjamin Franklin
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Mar 27, 2010 1:06:34am |
OK, when the job description starts like this, I don't answer it: The ideal candidate will have experience restraining children, will be knowledgable in de-escalation techniques, and will be able to teach new anger management skills during challenging situations.
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Gus Sat, Mar 27, 2010 1:09:39am |
re: #39 SanFranciscoZionist
OK, when the job description starts like this, I don't answer it: The ideal candidate will have experience restraining children, will be knowledgable in de-escalation techniques, and will be able to teach new anger management skills during challenging situations.
To be able to "teach new anger management skills during challenging situations." That's interesting.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Mar 27, 2010 1:11:47am |
re: #40 Gus 802
To be able to "teach new anger management skills during challenging situations." That's interesting.
The first people who called me back when I was first hunting for a teaching job about five years ago, were looking for classroom assistants to work with emotionally disturbed kids. "You'll need to be able to assist with take-downs," the woman explained perkily.
I said, in my best middle-aged Jewish lady voice, "Oh, dear, I don't think I'm exactly your candidate."
If I wanted to be assisting with take-downs, I would have applied to the police academy. And they would have given me a taser and a baton.
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Cato the Elder Sat, Mar 27, 2010 1:21:09am |
Goodnight, lacertae nocturnae!
Gooey morning, Mandy.
Here's a little opera in three acts, courtesy of the Evil Trio.
Iceweasel (who by some accounts is vewy vewy eeevul):
Jimmah (showing forbearance):
Cato (who laughs at everything as long as he can have his grrrl):
And I leave you all with an image of Life Without Mozart.
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Gus Sat, Mar 27, 2010 1:21:11am |
re: #41 SanFranciscoZionist
The first people who called me back when I was first hunting for a teaching job about five years ago, were looking for classroom assistants to work with emotionally disturbed kids. "You'll need to be able to assist with take-downs," the woman explained perkily.
I said, in my best middle-aged Jewish lady voice, "Oh, dear, I don't think I'm exactly your candidate."
If I wanted to be assisting with take-downs, I would have applied to the police academy. And they would have given me a taser and a baton.
Sounds creepy. There's an old movie that I saw a couple of months ago that was dealing with violence in mental health clinics. The head nurse was played by Joan Crawford. They actually developed techniques in the late 1950s to avoid that.
I see the taser as useful in certain situations but it seems to be the easy way out for those that are both physically weak and mentally weak. It's the modern day cattle prong that was used by South and Central American police departments for decades.
Domestically they used to use a hardwood baton. Sometimes they'd use a rubber hose. Overall though it's part of a penal colony mentality. The result of these techniques is that in the end they hire people with lower mental capacities to perform guard duty. In effect they hire animals to do the dirty work.
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RadicalModerate Sat, Mar 27, 2010 1:36:20am |
Didn't see this one in earlier threads, but yet another Congressman has gotten an assassination threat directly related to the healthcare debate.
The latest threat is to Vic Snyder (D-AR), who is retiring at the end of this term, which means the nutbar responsible for this doesn't merely want him out of political office.
Dem Rep. Snyder Threatened With Assassination
Snyder read from a copy of the original saying: "It is apparent that it will take a few assassinations to stop Obamacare. Militia central has selected you for assassination. If we cannot stalk and find you in Washington, D.C., we will get you in Little Rock."
By the way, his name is one of them on the SarahPAC list, with a nice red crosshairs over the state.
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steve Sat, Mar 27, 2010 1:40:03am |
confirm hypothesis + contrary hypothesis = a discovery that can be measured
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Mar 27, 2010 1:59:32am |
re: #44 RadicalModerate
Didn't see this one in earlier threads, but yet another Congressman has gotten an assassination threat directly related to the healthcare debate.
The latest threat is to Vic Snyder (D-AR), who is retiring at the end of this term, which means the nutbar responsible for this doesn't merely want him out of political office.Dem Rep. Snyder Threatened With Assassination
By the way, his name is one of them on the SarahPAC list, with a nice red crosshairs over the state.
This is getting more and more reminiscent of the hit lists the anti-choice groups maintained in the 90s.
At this point I'm afraid someone is going to get shot. Over a healthcare bill.
I sure hope Twain or whoever was right about that special providence that looks after children, the insane and the United States of America.
Night all.
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RadicalModerate Sat, Mar 27, 2010 2:09:21am |
I bet we're not going to hear about this one from Brietbart.
Clay County, KY Election Officials Found Guilty of Election Fraud, Vote Buying
We recently detailed the testimony of one of the witnesses in the case who described how she was trained by the county's chief election official, Clerk Freddy Thompson (one of those convicted today), to change votes cast by voters on the county's ES&S touch-screen voting systems after they'd left the voting booth. The witness, Wanda White also detailed how she was instructed to change her own voter registration from Republican to Democratic so that she could serve as a Democratic precinct official.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Mar 27, 2010 2:14:54am |
re: #29 SanFranciscoZionist
Ah, yes, the hyperliberal Ninth Circus Court...
I heard they're all liberal witches who want to make it legal to eat babies!
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freetoken Sat, Mar 27, 2010 2:21:37am |
re: #49 WindUpBird
No, no, no.... it's Moloch who eats the babies, it's just that the 9th circiut approved of the method.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Mar 27, 2010 2:24:57am |
re: #50 freetoken
No, no, no... it's Moloch who eats the babies, it's just that the 9th circiut approved of the method.
I want to know who would sue the dread Moloch!
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laZardo Sat, Mar 27, 2010 2:49:14am |
re: #41 SanFranciscoZionist
The first people who called me back when I was first hunting for a teaching job about five years ago, were looking for classroom assistants to work with emotionally disturbed kids. "You'll need to be able to assist with take-downs," the woman explained perkily.
I said, in my best middle-aged Jewish lady voice, "Oh, dear, I don't think I'm exactly your candidate."
If I wanted to be assisting with take-downs, I would have applied to the police academy. And they would have given me a taser and a baton.
You'd make a great cop. :3
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ryannon Sat, Mar 27, 2010 2:50:29am |
re: #3 JasonA
Umm... personal space?
George W. Bush Wipes Hand On Bill Clinton's Shirt After Shaking Hands With Haitians (VIDEO)And no, I'm not Bush-bashing. That shit's just rude.
Oh, and give me credit for not making a "Ew, I just touched black people" joke.
Well, he must feel pretty guilty.
The earthquake was his fault, right?
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ryannon Sat, Mar 27, 2010 2:51:39am |
re: #8 JasonA
I... I don't think wiping it off on Clinton is an acceptable response in that situation :)
Well, who would you have wiped it on?
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laZardo Sat, Mar 27, 2010 2:56:18am |
Also, it's Earth Hour Day today.
I'm pro-environment but the whole nature of the holiday is causing me to want to just switch on all the lights. =_=
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ryannon Sat, Mar 27, 2010 2:56:59am |
re: #33 RadicalModerate
Gazing through some of the archived stories on the original suit - the original arrest was back in 2005 - there's a significant amount of speculation that may well have been a "Driving While Black" arrest. I'm not going to go that route, especially given the fact that cops have been known to taser 90-year-old ladies at the drop of a hat.
"But I wouldn't be so amazed,
EVERYBODY must get tased"
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ryannon Sat, Mar 27, 2010 3:09:57am |
re: #51 WindUpBird
I want to know who would sue the dread Moloch!
Allen Ginsberg did, so to speak, and won.
What sphinx of cement and aluminium bashed open their skulls and ate up their brains and imagination?
Moloch! Solitude! Filth! Ugliness! Ashcans and unobtainable dollars! Children screaming under the stairways! Boys sobbing in armies! Old men weeping in the parks!
Moloch! Moloch! Nightmare of Moloch! Moloch the loveless! Mental Moloch! Moloch the heavy judger of men!
Moloch the incomprehensible prison! Moloch the crossbone soulless jailhouse and Congress of sorrows! Moloch whose buildings are judgement! Moloch the vast stone of war! Moloch the stunned governments!
Moloch whose mind is pure machinery! Moloch whose blood is running money! Moloch whose fingers are ten armies! Moloch whose breast is a cannibal dynamo! Moloch whose ear is a smoking tomb!
Moloch whose eyes are a thousand blind windows! Moloch whose skyscrapers stand in the long streets like endless Jehovas! Moloch whose factories dream and choke in the fog! Moloch whose smokestacks and antennae crown the cities!
Moloch whose love is endless oil and stone! Moloch whose soul is electricity and banks! Moloch whose poverty is the specter of genius! Moloch whose fate is a cloud of sexless hydrogen! Moloch whose name is the Mind!
Moloch in whom I sit lonely! Moloch in whom I dream angels! Crazy in Moloch! Cocksucker in Moloch! Lacklove and manless in Moloch!
Moloch who entered my soul early! Moloch in whom I am a consciousness without a body! Moloch who frightened me out of my natural ecstasy! Moloch whom I abandon! Wake up in Moloch! Light streaming out of the sky!
Moloch! Moloch! Robot apartments! invisable suburbs! skeleton treasuries! blind capitals! demonic industries! spectral nations! invincible madhouses! granite cocks! monstrous bombs!
They broke their backs lifting Moloch to Heaven! Pavements, trees, radios, tons! lifting the city to Heaven which exists and is everywhere about us!
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Bubblehead II Sat, Mar 27, 2010 3:17:26am |
Morning Lizards. Looks like the 9th Circuit blew it again. But it also appears that the two Judges for the majority were Reagan Appointees and ex-military.
O`Scannlain, Diarmuid Fionntain
While the dissenting Judge
was appointed by (drum roll please). Clinton.
I hope this gets a full hearing before the full 9th circuit and is over turned.
Because as the dissenting Judge stated.
"She argued that under Washington law, the officers had no authority to take Brooks into custody: Failure to sign a traffic infraction is not an arrestable offense, and it's not illegal to resist an unlawful arrest."
Let me just add, that from my point of view, if you don't object and raise a stink when the cops are out of line, but instead meekly submit, you only empower them and further erode your Constitutional Rights.
Learn how to Flex Your Rights
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Bubblehead II Sat, Mar 27, 2010 3:22:42am |
re: #62 laZardo
Thanks. Should have tested the links before I posted.
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laZardo Sat, Mar 27, 2010 3:29:00am |
re: #64 Bubblehead II
NP.
Though I am wondering how people that have actually committed a crime might use those videos to get the police off their backs.
/checking.
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Bubblehead II Sat, Mar 27, 2010 3:48:30am |
re: #65 laZardo
You are innocent until proven guilty in a Court of Law and it's the responsibility of the State to prove such guilt beyond a reasonable doubt ( In the United States). It is not and has never been since the conception of this Nation, the responsibility of an Individual to prove their innocence.
Besides, those who engage in regular criminal activity already know this and use it to their advantage.
The average Joe/Jane has been taught from early childhood to cooperate with law enforcement. What they don't realize, until it bites them in the ass, is that, that cooperation can be used against you.
Too many people think/feel that failing to cooperate with law enforcement is a sign of guilt. It is the old canard of "Well if you don't have anything to hide, just answer the questions, let them search,ect."
This is bullshit. The Founders of this Nation recognized this and made sure that the right of a Citizen to refuse to submit to an warrantless search or to answer questions against their will was guarantied. As well as several other specifically enumerated rights as well
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Bubblehead II Sat, Mar 27, 2010 3:52:41am |
re: #67 RogueOne
Morning. Ready for some simple debate on Constitutional Rights in regards to the latest 9th Circuit ruling?
Look up thread around # 35 or so.
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 3:52:57am |
re: #60 Bubblehead II
One of the people involved in the Flex Your Rights video said on another board that the video is selling very well but if you don't want to buy it they will be posting it free fairly shortly.
Never, under any circumstances, speak to the police.
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 3:54:24am |
re: #68 Bubblehead II
My favorite subject and I missed it.//
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Bubblehead II Sat, Mar 27, 2010 3:54:47am |
re: #69 RogueOne
No shit. Especially if they come knocking on your door at (about) 2030 hrs.
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ryannon Sat, Mar 27, 2010 3:58:43am |
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:00:10am |
re: #29 SanFranciscoZionist
Ah, yes, the hyperliberal Ninth Circus Court...
They're also very pro-state. They're exactly at the point where the left and the right meet on the big circle of judicial life.
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:01:47am |
re: #32 Gus 802
Dovetailing on this. It's pretty simple to me. If she was white she wouldn't have been tazed. If she was white the court would have ruled in her favor.
I'll give you partial credit on this one. I think you're right about her not being tased if she were white, probably, but I don't think the court took her race into consideration. They do what they do because they're part of the system. If the state/police say they need to be able to tase people at random they're probably going to go along with it.
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RadicalModerate Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:04:34am |
One final link before I catch my 40 winks.
Dunno how many Doctor Who lizards there are out there, but after seeing the new set of preview clips, I'm officially geeked over the new season, that starts next Saturday. The Matt Smith/Steven Moffat era looks like it will be awesome.
New Doctor Who Series Trailer & Clips From Jonathan Ross Show
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:08:23am |
re: #73 Bubblehead II
Got a link.
The agitator posted a link to a WaPo write-up on the video:
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
Scott Morgan showed up in the comments thread:
[Link: www.theagitator.com...]
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Bubblehead II Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:11:40am |
re: #76 RogueOne
"They do what they do because they're part of the system. If the state/police say they need to be able to tase people at random they're probably going to go along with it."
So you are ok with allowing the cops to randomly taze/arrest people?
And allowing the Courts to sanction it?
Please clarify if I am misinterpreting your post.
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laZardo Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:16:56am |
re: #66 Bubblehead II
So those who engage in regular criminal activity already know these tips to get cops off their own backs and use it to their advantage?
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:17:05am |
re: #79 Bubblehead II
"They do what they do because they're part of the system. If the state/police say they need to be able to tase people at random they're probably going to go along with it."
So you are ok with allowing the cops to randomly taze/arrest people?
And allowing the Courts to sanction it?
Please clarify if I am misinterpreting your post.
Not in any way am I condoning. I'm just pointing out the obvious that the more liberal/conservative courts generally side with the state. Take Scalia for instance, he'll generally vote based on his pretty narrow constructionist view of the constitution unless it bumps up against the rights of the state. When that happens, he'll almost always vote in favor of the right of the state(the feds) to do as they please. "The constitution doesn't say the feds don't have the right to tase you for non-compliance in a traffic stop so it must be ok" kinda thing.
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:21:44am |
re: #80 laZardo
So those who engage in regular criminal activity already know these tips to get cops off their own backs and use it to their advantage?
People have a tendency to talk too much especially if they believe they haven't done anything wrong. I take any interaction with a police officer very seriously, maybe too seriously. I refuse to wear my seat belt so I get pulled over pretty often. It always goes well until the officer asks me a question I don't think he has the right to ask and generally it's a pretty basic question like "where are you headed?" or "Do you have anything in the vehicle I should know about?" then they all tend to go downhill. My best friend is a police officer and he's tried to coach me on how to not get tased but it's only a matter of time that I'm going to get it.
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ryannon Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:23:57am |
re: #82 RogueOne
How do you explain why you refuse to wear a seat belt to the police?
And do they accept your reasons?
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laZardo Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:25:12am |
re: #82 RogueOne
I actually do not trust cops at all, especially living in Manila for so long. I think it'd be very safe to assume that they are either looking for ways to garnish their gratuitously low salaries or are just in it for the sadistic kicks.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:26:22am |
The police were justified - suppose the wonan wasn't really pregnant but concealing an IED under her clothes...
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:27:34am |
Obama's foreclosure relief plan seems designed to push the foreclosures down the road by about 6 months by temporarily reducing monthly payments for people who are on the verge of foreclosure.
Hmmm...6 months from now would be the end of September, which would mean the really bad foreclosure numbers would be artificially suppressed until November...
Isn't there an election in November?
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ryannon Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:27:56am |
re: #85 ralphieboy
The police were justified - suppose the wonan wasn't really pregnant but concealing an IED under her clothes...
That would certainly be a first in the U.S.
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:28:14am |
re: #83 ryannon
How do you explain why you refuse to wear a seat belt to the police?
And do they accept your reasons?
See, that's where it usually goes downhill.
cop: "Why are you not wearing your seatbelt?"
me: "None of your business"
In Indiana it's a $25 fine, no points and no reporting to your insurance agency. If it's a state trooper they usually don't say or ask anything. They'll just tell you why they pulled you over, hand you a ticket and send you on your way. It's generally city officers who want to search your vehicle and ask you questions they don't have the right to ask.
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Bubblehead II Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:28:34am |
re: #80 laZardo
Uhhh, yes. John (The Teflon Don, et al). Organized Crime has being doing it for years. Much to the angst of Law Enforcement.
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:29:39am |
re: #84 laZardo
I actually do not trust cops at all, especially living in Manila for so long. I think it'd be very safe to assume that they are either looking for ways to garnish their gratuitously low salaries or are just in it for the sadistic kicks.
That is a seriously shitty way to have to live.
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laZardo Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:30:07am |
re: #89 Bubblehead II
So if innocent people learn to do it too, how will anybody get caught?
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:31:21am |
re: #90 Spare O'Lake
That is a seriously shitty way to have to live.
True. For all the problems we have here in the states it could be much, much worse. Getting picked up by police in a foreign/3rd world country will really scare the crap out of you.
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laZardo Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:32:39am |
re: #92 RogueOne
True. For all the problems we have here in the states it could be much, much worse. Getting picked up by police in a foreign/3rd world country will really scare the crap out of you.
I didn't say it applied only to Manila, in fact.
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ryannon Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:33:31am |
re: #88 RogueOne
See, that's where it usually goes downhill.
cop: "Why are you not wearing your seatbelt?"
me: "None of your business"In Indiana it's a $25 fine, no points and no reporting to your insurance agency. If it's a state trooper they usually don't say or ask anything. They'll just tell you why they pulled you over, hand you a ticket and send you on your way. It's generally city officers who want to search your vehicle and ask you questions they don't have the right to ask.
Either you're well-known around your parts or you've really got guts.
Me (not you): "It's none of your business."
Cop: "GET OUT OF THE CAR WITH YOUR HANDS UP!"
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:36:35am |
re: #93 laZardo
I didn't say it applied only to Manila, in fact.
My brother was picked up in Jeddah SA and taken to a local Police HQ. I also had an Army acquaintance picked up in Mexico. My brother was lucky, he was released after a few hours. When the army buddy didn't show up for a few weeks they just assumed he'd gone AWOL. He sat in a mexican facility for months before anyone found out where he was.
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:39:48am |
re: #94 ryannon
Either you're well-known around your parts or you've really got guts.
Me (not you): "It's none of your business."
Cop: "GET OUT OF THE CAR WITH YOUR HANDS UP!"
I'm a white, former army officer with a clean record so I'm not all that concerned. I've had them get red in the face mad though, cracks me up. If there's a way to talk myself into a ticket, I'll find it. I had an Iowa trooper so pissed he wrote me a ticket for 6 infractions in one stop.
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laZardo Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:44:00am |
Gonna go have dinner and try to find a reason to be hopeful about humanity (failing that, get a drink.) Bbl.
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Lidane Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:45:38am |
RNC rejects joint 'civility' statement
The Republican National Committee has rejected a proposal from its Democratic counterpart to sign a joint “civility” statement, POLITICO has learned.
Various members of the DNC — including Chairman Tim Kaine, Executive Director Jen O’Malley Dillon and Communications Director Brad Woodhouse — contacted their respective RNC counterparts this week in hopes of getting RNC Chairman Michael Steele to co-sign a document with Kaine that, in part, called for “elected officials of both parties to set an example of the civility we want to see in our citizenry.”
“We also call on all Americans to respect differences of opinion, to refrain from inappropriate forms of intimidation, to reject violence and vandalism, and to scale back rhetoric that might reasonably be misinterpreted by those prone to such behavior,” read the proposed joint statement, which came at the end of a week which saw acts of vandalism and threats of violence directed at members of Congress from both parties, but mostly aimed at Democrats who voted “yes” on the health care bill.
Republicans see the statement as an attempt to force them to either reject the statement — allowing Democrats to say the RNC finds the incidents acceptable — or to sign on to something that the DNC would later wield against them.
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ryannon Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:47:04am |
re: #96 RogueOne
I'm a white, former army officer with a clean record so I'm not all that concerned. I've had them get red in the face mad though, cracks me up. If there's a way to talk myself into a ticket, I'll find it. I had an Iowa trooper so pissed he wrote me a ticket for 6 infractions in one stop.
Ok.
Now, how do you feel about people on your lawn?
/
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:54:46am |
re: #99 ryannon
Ok.
Now, how do you feel about people on your lawn?
/
My biggest personal pet peeve is having people ask me questions. When someone asks me something I almost always respond with a "why are you asking?" or "what's it to you?". I have no idea why I'm like that, it's just the way I've always been so when a cop asks me where I'm going I immediately get defensive.
My poor wife learned long ago to just not ask too many questions.
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Bubblehead II Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:55:10am |
re: #81 RogueOne
Not in any way am I condoning. I'm just pointing out the obvious that the more liberal/conservative courts generally side with the state. Take Scalia for instance, he'll generally vote based on his pretty narrow constructionist view of the constitution unless it bumps up against the rights of the state. When that happens, he'll almost always vote in favor of the right of the state(the feds) to do as they please. "The constitution doesn't say the feds don't have the right to tase you for non-compliance in a traffic stop so it must be ok" kinda thing.
Ok, ya lost me on that one. State Rights and Federal Rights will (and should) be limited by the Constitution. It is not a living document. It is a convent (contract) with the people and should be interpreted as such.
On a side note, I think it is time for me to call it night.
4 beers + 6 shots equals not fit to further post.
// Should have quit sooner
But as I fade into the dark.
Night Lizards.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:55:41am |
re: #82 RogueOne
I had a cop ask me at a sobriety check point where I was going. I had;
a. Not been drinking
b. No intentions on telling him where I was heading.
I answered with, "I am not sure that it is any of your business, sir."
a. The cop looked over at the Sarge who was there supervising
b. She looked kind of offended
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:56:04am |
re: #101 Bubblehead II
By "State" I mean government entity not Ohio for instance.
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:58:50am |
re: #102 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I had a cop ask me at a sobriety check point where I was going. I had;
a. Not been drinking
b. No intentions on telling him where I was heading.I answered with, "I am not sure that it is any of your business, sir."
a. The cop looked over at the Sarge who was there supervising
b. She looked kind of offended
Yeah, they get irritable pretty quick when you refuse to answer questions. My biggest problem is I like to irritate people (have I mentioned I'm a butthole?) and given the chance I'll go out of my way to force the issue with an officer. Like I said, it's only a matter of time before one of them tases me.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 4:59:12am |
re: #98 Lidane
including Chairman Tim Kaine, Executive Director Jen O’Malley Dillon and Communications Director Brad Woodhouse — contacted their respective RNC counterparts this week in hopes of getting RNC Chairman Michael Steele to co-sign a document with Kaine that, in part, called for “elected officials of both parties to set an example of the civility we want to see in our citizenry.”
So for 8 years they get to call Bush every name in the book PLUS try to come up with articles of impeachment, but now that there is a dem in the White House they call for 'civility'
got it!
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sattv4u2 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:03:43am |
re: #102 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I had a cop ask me at a sobriety check point where I was going. I had;
a. Not been drinking
b. No intentions on telling him where I was heading.I answered with, "I am not sure that it is any of your business, sir."
a. The cop looked over at the Sarge who was there supervising
b. She looked kind of offended
co-worker was stopped at one of those. She WAS shit faced at the time. police report said when she was asked how much she had to drink, she answered 'not nearly enough"
((needless to say, she was arrested))(((also ,, she is an ex-co-worker)))
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:05:03am |
re: #105 sattv4u2
I call for civility all the time. I like civility.
It is more civil.
"Confound this Civil War. It is almost like our country is being torn into two."
-Bob Odenkirk's "Abe Lincoln, In My Own Words"
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ryannon Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:05:34am |
re: #102 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I had a cop ask me at a sobriety check point where I was going. I had;
a. Not been drinking
b. No intentions on telling him where I was heading.I answered with, "I am not sure that it is any of your business, sir."
a. The cop looked over at the Sarge who was there supervising
b. She looked kind of offended
Me:
c. And that was the last thing I remembered before waking up handcuffed to the bed in Cook Country Hospital.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:05:47am |
re: #104 RogueOne
(I called her "sir", did you catch that?)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:06:17am |
re: #108 ryannon
Me:
c. And that was the last thing I remembered before waking up handcuffed to the bed in Cook Country Hospital.
"And that was when the tasing started..."
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:07:19am |
I asked yesterday if Classical Values was an ok spot to link but never got a response one way or the other so I'm going to go ahead and post the link.
It's an article from a republican leaning libertarian (as far as I can tell) about the problems with republican support of Joe Arpaio. Since we're about to get into the whole immigration argument I thought it was timely:
[Link: www.classicalvalues.com...]
Probably because I don't like repeating myself, I don't say as much about police abuses as I should. Stuff like SWAT team abuses, civil rights violations committed in the name of the "drug war," and police retaliation against critics, go on all the time, as do a lot of things I don't find the time to write about. I guess it's because my goal is to be creative and entertaining, and ideally, I try to never write about things unless I have something new to say.I also don't like to dump on other bloggers, especially bloggers I like who are philosophically in more or less the same, um, "camp" as myself.
This leaves me in a bit of a dilemma where it comes to Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio. I think the man is a rogue cop who epitomizes bad law enforcement, and yet he is very popular among conservatives, mainly because he's tough on illegal immigration. As I think illegal immigration is out of control, if his only excesses related to his department's dealing with illegals, I probably wouldn't bother with a post. After all, not only am I a notorious compromiser, but these people are not citizens, and regardless of what the Supreme Court has said, violations of the rights of non-citizens are not as bothersome to me as violations of the rights of citizens. I realize there's a slippery slope, but still.... People are pissed off about illegal immigration, and I can understand why they would like Joe Arpaio for his get-tough, tent-city-in-the-desert policies.
However, I find it disturbing that they seem so willing to overlook the fact that Arpaio and his department have a long track record of appalling abuses.
I would hope my friends on the right would see this asswipe for what he is, a walking, talking violation of our constitutional rights. It's been going on for ages but it seems only recently have people on the right been noticing the problems with Maricopa Co. AZ.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:08:04am |
re: #107 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I call for civility all the time. I like civility.
It is more civil.
"Confound this Civil War. It is almost like our country is being torn into two."
-Bob Odenkirk's "Abe Lincoln, In My Own Words"
Don't get me wrong. I HATE the tone this country has taken in the last 20-25 or so years. But for the dems to now get on a high horse is laughable.
IF the repubs were to sign it, the dems would crow how they (the dems) had to force the repubs to do so
AND ,, if a repub were to say something UNcivil (totally arbitrary as to what that would be, btw) the dems would then crow about how the rebups couldn't keep their promise
LOSE/ LOSE
no thanks
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ryannon Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:08:08am |
re: #110 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
"And that was when the tasing started..."
LOL!
Ouch!!
It only hurts when I laugh.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:09:39am |
shit ,,, a co-worker in Tulsa just sent me a spread sheet. I hate when I'm at work on a Saturday and I have to ,,, well ,, WORK !!
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sattv4u2 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:12:42am |
re: #114 sattv4u2
shit ,,, a co-worker in Tulsa just sent me a spread sheet. I hate when I'm at work on a Saturday and I have to ,,, well ,, WORK !!
K ,,, this won;'t take long after all
Only about a dozen international services for next week!
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:17:51am |
re: #115 sattv4u2
K ,,, this won;'t take long after all
Only about a dozen international services for next week!
My spouse works in advertising and political season just started. Her workload has been double the average for the last month because of the HCR bill and it's not going to slow down until November. My poor girl has been working almost 60 hours a week just to keep up.
I knew the FCC regs were a mess, I just didn't realize how screwed up the laws were until she moved into this position. Half of the extra work she has to do is just to verify compliance with the political advertising regs. Very time consuming and costly.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:21:25am |
re: #116 RogueOne
My spouse works in advertising and political season just started. Her workload has been double the average for the last month because of the HCR bill and it's not going to slow down until November. My poor girl has been working almost 60 hours a week just to keep up.
I knew the FCC regs were a mess, I just didn't realize how screwed up the laws were until she moved into this position. Half of the extra work she has to do is just to verify compliance with the political advertising regs. Very time consuming and costly.
60 hour weeks are "normal" here year round. we just lost a guy (fired)
We're here 24/7. We now have 4 techs.. (plus one manager and one engineer) YOU do the math
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:23:02am |
OK. New day. Here is hoping that everyone who wants to be a douche bag today will break a wrist or something. Good morning.:)
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sattv4u2 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:23:45am |
re: #118 Cannadian Club Akbar
OK. New day. Here is hoping that everyone who wants to be a douche bag today will break a wrist or something. Good morning.:)
OUCH ,,
thanks !!!
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:24:48am |
re: #117 sattv4u2
60 hour weeks are "normal" here year round. we just lost a guy (fired)
We're here 24/7. We now have 4 techs.. (plus one manager and one engineer) YOU do the math
You should jump ship to the largest, friendliest cable company known to man. They pay fairly well, have great benefits and, compared to other cable companies, a very good management structure.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:28:18am |
re: #120 RogueOne
You should jump ship to the largest, friendliest cable company known to man. They pay fairly well, have great benefits and, compared to other cable companies, a very good management structure.
I make much more (not even including overtime) than they pay the cable techs. And there, they are mostly baby sitters for equipment. Here we have to actually be involved in the feeds as well
| 122 |
Cathypop Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:28:31am |
Morning Lizards,
It is going to be a beautiful day in Central Texas. And I have 2 teenage grandsons ready to help with chores. I used to think of them as cute cheap labor but now they eat a ton of food!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:29:20am |
re: #122 Cathypop
Morning Lizards,
It is going to be a beautiful day in Central Texas. And I have 2 teenage grandsons ready to help with chores. I used to think of them as cute cheap labor but now they eat a ton of food!
Work them into the ground!! It's easy to cook some food.:)
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:31:56am |
Blue on Blue:
Deputies Beat Him Senseless, Black Cop Says
[Link: www.courthousenews.com...]
PENSACOLA, Fla. (CN) - A black law enforcement agent says sheriff's deputies Tasered and beat him and sicced a dog on him though he identified himself as a cop and, in fact, was talking on his cell phone to the sheriff's office, explaining his situation, while the deputies beat the hell out of him.
Ira Lee McQueen was on duty undercover as an agent with the Florida Division of Alcohol, Beverage and Tobacco in Pensacola when the Escambia County Sheriff's deputies jumped him, he says in his federal complaint.
McQueen was investing a liquor store clerk's sale of alcoholic beverages to a minor, and took a gun from the clerk, according to the complaint. A customer left the store and called police.
While McQueen was on the phone with the Sheriff's Office running a check on the clerk and his gun, he noticed that the store had been surrounded by more than 15 officers. He asked the Sheriff's Office to notify the officers that he was a Special Agent with the Florida ATF.
According to the complaint, "the Escambia County Sheriff's Office employee on the telephone with the plaintiff instructed [him] to walk outside make contact with the officers."
McQueen says he "complied with the telephone directions and the officers' demands while at the same time shouting to them that he was a special agent and a law enforcement officer."
He says that though he lay on the ground as instructed, he was Tasered "multiple times" though he continued to identify himself as an officer.
Nonetheless, the deputies jumped on him, "landing on the plaintiff's back with their knees and then repeatedly slamm[ed] the plaintiff's head into the concrete sidewalk," and then sicced a police dog on him, who "inflicted wounds on the plaintiff's legs, as he lay on the ground completely restrained."
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sattv4u2 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:32:10am |
re: #122 Cathypop
Morning Lizards,
It is going to be a beautiful day in Central Texas. And I have 2 teenage grandsons ready to help with chores. I used to think of them as cute cheap labor but now they eat a ton of food!
heh ,, I know of which you speak
my house is where the gang (my sons friends) hang out on weekends. When they were 10 and under, it was easy. PBJ sammiches ,,, chicken nuggets,,, etc
NOW ,, we call them The Locusts
When they arrive, the dogs hide !!
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Cathypop Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:32:22am |
re: #123 Cannadian Club Akbar
Work them into the ground!! It's easy to cook some food.:)
I just supply the food. They like to cook. Their mom taught them well.
Gotta run. I hear teens grumbling.
Later
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:36:23am |
So, everything I was suppose to do Monday didn't get done 'cause I was called into work. And I didn't get Monday's stuff done on Wednesday because I went to a baseball game. Now, it's Saturday and I can finally get Monday's work done. But I did get my lawn mowed without mowing it myself.
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compound idaho Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:36:32am |
re: #116 RogueOne
My spouse works in advertising and political season just started. Her workload has been double the average for the last month because of the HCR bill and it's not going to slow down until November. My poor girl has been working almost 60 hours a week just to keep up.
I knew the FCC regs were a mess, I just didn't realize how screwed up the laws were until she moved into this position. Half of the extra work she has to do is just to verify compliance with the political advertising regs. Very time consuming and costly.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, ....except when we feel like it or think we can manage it better.
We've come a long way baby!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:44:30am |
I can honestly say I have never been this drunk.
[Link: cbs3.com...]
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:47:28am |
re: #128 compound idaho
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, ...except when we feel like it or think we can manage it better.
We've come a long way baby!
Preach brother! One of the issues is no one, political candidate or any completely unrelated commercial, is allowed to get any kind of deal regardless of time/station/availability. When the company wants a contract or they have a lot of open commercial slots they'll cut their rates just to get what cash they can. When "political season" kicks in (the start date is mandated by the FCC) they have to go through every slot sold during a time period, find the highest paying customer and everyones rates have to match that number.
I almost understand the rule that no political related commercial should get a better deal than another but why should Toyota have to pay extra just to run a "hey, sorry about that runaway car we sold you" commercial that's completely unrelated to anything involving politics.
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:49:57am |
I don't drink enough anymore. 1/2 a big bottle of NyQuil and I'm starting to feel a little loopy.
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ryannon Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:51:40am |
re: #131 RogueOne
By the way, thank you for being so patient about my questions. I was really intrigued: like many people, I've learned to 'cooperate' in situations like that - even if it means answering questions which are basically none of their business.
I admire you for the courage of your convictions.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:54:39am |
re: #132 RogueOne
I don't drink enough anymore. 1/2 a big bottle of NyQuil and I'm starting to feel a little loopy.
Uh, there is a little cup that comes with the bottle. Try that next time. It's not Gatorade.:)
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:54:56am |
I've posted multiple times about Jordan Miles, the student in PA who was beaten pretty badly by the police for nothing other than having a 2-liter bottle in his coat. Here's a true/slant link with brutal pic to catch up if you haven't heard the story:
[Link: trueslant.com...]
One of the officers involved in that beating is now being investigated for another beating last month where he knocked a guys eye out of it's socket:
[Link: www.wpxi.com...]
PITTSBURGH -- A Pittsburgh police officer under investigation by a federal grand jury in the alleged beating of a CAPA student now faces new accusations of using excessive force.“His eyeball was knocked out of his eye socket. The doctor had to insert a plastic screw in order for the eyeball not to fall into his eye socket,” said attorney Jenee Oliver.
Oliver was referring to Jamil Gray, 34, who was arrested in Feb. 2009.
Oliver claims officer Michael Saldutte delivered a brutal beating during an arrest that started out as a traffic stop.
Channel 11 obtained medical reports from the Allegheny County Jail. Gray had a large left floor fracture, which means a large left eye fracture. He had surgery, but the injury has left permanent damage.
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:55:31am |
IDF soldier fights for his life as tanks leave Gaza
By YAAKOV KATZ AND JPOST.COM STAFF
26/03/2010 18:22
Two IDF soldiers killed in southern Strip, two others wounded; at least 1 Palestinian killed, about a dozen wounded...
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
Snub. Snub. Snub.
15 secret demands.
*spit*
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 6:04:02am |
re: #133 ryannon
Thanks. IMO, it's important that we can trust our system and the only way they can earn that trust is to play strictly by the rules and I don't think people should give up even the smallest portion of their rights guaranteed to them by 200+ years of men/women in uniform.
I've met a lot of good honorable police officers but it seems we've been going the wrong direction for the last 30 years. Personally I think it's a combination of voters and police unions that have allowed it to get this out of hand and until people stop giving up the rights they're owed it's not going to get any better.
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Mar 27, 2010 6:06:26am |
Arab League chief urges closer ties with Iran
By ASSOCIATED PRESS
27/03/2010 15:43
SIRTE, Libya — The Arab League chief is urging the 22-nation bloc to engage Iran directly over concerns about its growing influence and its nuclear activities.
Amr Moussa presented his proposal to a two-day Arab League leaders summit in Sirte, Libya, that started Saturday. The proposal could undermine US and Israeli efforts to isolate Iran.
Moussa's engagement plan would involve a forum for regional cooperation and conflict resolution that would include non-Arab nations Iran and Turkey.
Turkish Prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan immediately endorsed the proposal at the summit.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
Maybe Obama needs to publicly fuck over Israel a little more...
*spit*
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 6:08:53am |
re: #139 Spare O'Lake
Maybe Obama needs to publicly fuck over Israel a little more...
*spit*
He's working on it.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 6:12:38am |
I would like to thank the people that downdinged my #991 from last night
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
You proved my STEP 1 point!
:)
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Mar 27, 2010 6:13:09am |
re: #137 RogueOne
Thanks. IMO, it's important that we can trust our system and the only way they can earn that trust is to play strictly by the rules and I don't think people should give up even the smallest portion of their rights guaranteed to them by 200+ years of men/women in uniform.
I've met a lot of good honorable police officers but it seems we've been going the wrong direction for the last 30 years. Personally I think it's a combination of voters and police unions that have allowed it to get this out of hand and until people stop giving up the rights they're owed it's not going to get any better.
People also have the right to co-operate with police and to answer questions which they are not legally required to answer. Does the exercise of that right mean that they are giving up their right to remain silent or their protection against unreasonble searches? I don't think so.
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Mar 27, 2010 6:16:57am |
re: #141 sattv4u2
I would like to thank the people that downdinged my #991 from last night
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]You proved my STEP 1 point!
:)
Dingbats!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 6:17:07am |
re: #141 sattv4u2
I don't think I have ever down-dinged anybody.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 6:18:51am |
re: #145 Cannadian Club Akbar
I don't think I have ever down-dinged anybody.
I have, but never for disagreeing with me
name calling
obvious trollism
thats about it
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 6:21:12am |
re: #146 sattv4u2
I have, but never for disagreeing with me
name calling
obvious trollismthats about it
Name calling is petty. The way I see it is, if you start name calling, you probably ran out of facts in a debate on a subject.
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 6:21:35am |
re: #142 Spare O'Lake
Never answer questions posed by the government/police without having an attorney give you the ok and even then it's not a good idea. There are too many ways to incriminate yourself and break laws you don't have any idea even exist, ask Libby or Martha Stewart how well cooperating went for them. Our founding fathers thought enough of the principle of non-compliance to put it in the first 5 amendments to the constitution.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 6:22:18am |
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cliffster Sat, Mar 27, 2010 6:23:15am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 6:26:06am |
I need to go shopping today for some vittles. I have no idea what to buy. A rack of ribs and beans is all I have on the list. And some peppers.
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 6:28:35am |
Marine Gen. Conway is not backing down from his stance against over-turning DADT.
[Link: www.azcentral.com...]
WASHINGTON - The Marine Corps' commandant said he won't force his troops to bunk with gays on base and would give them separate rooms if Congress votes to allow openly gay service.The comment, by Gen. James Conway, is the latest pushback by a small but vocal faction of senior military leaders opposed to a repeal of the 1993 law known as "don't ask, don't tell." President Barack Obama says the ban is unfair, and Defense Secretary Robert Gates has launched a lengthy study to determine how to allow gays to serve openly without hurting military effectiveness.
.......
Earlier this month, a three-star Army general called on troops and their families to "speak up" against allowing gays to serve openly.Lt. Gen. Benjamin Mixon, who heads Army forces for U.S. Pacific Command, was publicly admonished by Gates and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Adm. Mike Mullen for using his rank to advocate a political position and challenge the president.
"There's an opportunity in this process for everyone from junior to senior" to have an opportunity to comment, Mullen said.
Mullen added that military personnel disagreeing with the nation's policies should "vote with your feet."
My guess is the expiration date of both of their careers is coming up quicker than they expected.
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 6:31:06am |
Lt. Dan needs to be on his way out too:
[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]
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laZardo Sat, Mar 27, 2010 6:39:04am |
So I was about to find some hope in humanity when Mom went to the fusebox and Earth Hour'd the house.
Drink's good though, thanks for asking.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 6:41:53am |
re: #157 laZardo
So I was about to find some hope in humanity when Mom went to the fusebox and Earth Hour'd the house.
Drink's good though, thanks for asking.
See, I'm gonna start my truck and let it idle in the driveway for an hour.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, Mar 27, 2010 6:42:13am |
There is an equation people have in their heads, namely more policemen = better police protection. But it depends on the quality of the police force, and at some point, I think we have reached the point of diminshing returns: namely that one bad cop can undo the benefits of a dozen good ones.
The LAPD was an early case in point in that respect: the Rodney King affair led to the OJ Simpson getting let off because hs lawyers got the jury to doubt the honesty and comptence of the LAPD.
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gamark Sat, Mar 27, 2010 6:44:28am |
re: #154 RogueOne
My guess is the expiration date of both of their careers is coming up quicker than they expected.
I suspect so. I have no problem whatsoever with gays serving. I am however watching with interest how the housing logistics will be worked out.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 6:44:29am |
re: #159 ralphieboy
There is an equation people have in their heads, namely more policemen = better police protection. But it depends on the quality of the police force, and at some point, I think we have reached the point of diminshing returns: namely that one bad cop can undo the benefits of a dozen good ones.
The LAPD was an early case in point in that respect: the Rodney King affair led to the OJ Simpson getting let off because hs lawyers got the jury to doubt the honesty and comptence of the LAPD.
Don't forget the Rampart division of the LAPD. A lot of California's tobacco lawsuit money went to pay for lawsuits because of those guys, IIRC.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 6:46:46am |
Ah well ,,, day shift guy should be here soon. I have to (Walters word) SHLEPP (sp) some equipment I had to test and remove from service down to another building to be "retired' before I head home
Have a good day, friends, and "see" anyone who is here tonight
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 27, 2010 6:53:00am |
re: #160 gamark
I suspect so. I have no problem whatsoever with gays serving. I am however watching with interest how the housing logistics will be worked out.
What logistic? They sleep like they always have. What's the problem?
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laZardo Sat, Mar 27, 2010 6:53:56am |
re: #161 Cannadian Club Akbar
Don't forget the Rampart division of the LAPD. A lot of California's tobacco lawsuit money went to pay for lawsuits because of those guys, IIRC.
And that the Rodney King incident essentially started that era of music where women were referred to as female canines and pieces of gardening equipment.
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 6:55:53am |
Update on the road rage incident where the guy blamed his Obama sticker.
[Link: www.wkrn.com...]
NASHVILLE, Tenn. – The man accused in an incident of road rage over an Obama bumper sticker Thursday afternoon says he was only trying to get around another car that had stopped in front of him.News 2 talked to Harry Weisiger by phone Friday.
Weisiger, 70, is accused of hitting Mark Duren's car on Blair Boulevard around 4:30p.m. Friday.
He said, "He slammed on his brakes, and I hit him in the bumper when I tried to go around him."
Weisiger did not mention the Obama bumper sticker when News 2 spoke with him on the phone Friday, but did admit fault for leaving the scene of the accident.
...........
According to the police report, officers found Weisiger in the parking lot of Harris Teeter, where he said he had stopped to buy dinner.David Todd, who witnessed the accident from his window, said the SUV hit the car more than once.
"He hit him twice," Todd said. "When I stood up, the truck was about a foot behind the car, and that's when he plowed into him again and pushed him 50 feet, turned him sideways right here, and took off."
Todd said Duren and his daughter were obviously both shaken by the accident.
"He was opening the door trying to get out of the car as he's pushing him down the street, and I was like, ‘Oh don't get out of the car you may get run over,' and he said he didn't think about that at the time, that he was just panicking," Todd said.
Weisiger is charged with two counts of reckless endangerment, driving under the influence, refusing to take a breath test, and leaving the scene of an accident.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:02:38am |
I'm glad the stimulus got passed and is gonna help keep unemployment at 8%.
[Link: www.sun-sentinel.com...]
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:05:56am |
re: #167 Cannadian Club Akbar
I saw FL's unemployment number was at an all-time high. That's something you probably know all about first hand.
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gamark Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:06:13am |
re: #164 Walter L. Newton
Well, my knowledge of military barracks arrangements is somewhat dated (Vietnam era). If the current arrangement allows straight men and straight women to share rooms and shower together, then I see no issue at all with extending that policy to openly gay service people. If, on the other hand, men and women are segregated into separate rooms and/or shower separately, then I would suspect the same reasons for that segregation would apply to sexual orientation as well.
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laZardo Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:06:14am |
re: #167 Cannadian Club Akbar
I'm glad the stimulus got passed and is gonna help keep unemployment at 8%.
[Link: www.sun-sentinel.com...]
"That's what they get for not voting for the stimulus!"
/wait, didn't Charlie Crist vote for it?
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Taqyia2Me Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:07:53am |
That snapping noise:
[Link: www.gocomics.com...]
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:08:39am |
re: #170 laZardo
"That's what they get for not voting for the stimulus!"
/wait, didn't Charlie Crist vote for it?
Crist did accept money, then ran ads in his Senate bid bitching about it. That is why Marco Rubio is gonna win the seat.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:11:00am |
re: #168 RogueOne
I saw FL's unemployment number was at an all-time high. That's something you probably know all about first hand.
Yes. But lucky for me, I'm working for a guy I worked for 6 years ago. And he loves me.
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Digital Display Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:12:18am |
Good Morning Lizards and Juices
Hope everyone is well today
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laZardo Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:13:50am |
re: #174 HoosierHoops
Good Morning Lizards and Juices
Hope everyone is well today
Dad got the job, first check will be about a month from now due to probation period so 'survival mode' is gonna be just a bit longer.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:15:40am |
re: #175 laZardo
Dad got the job, first check will be about a month from now due to probation period so 'survival mode' is gonna be just a bit longer.
A bit longer is fine if you make it.
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Digital Display Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:17:48am |
re: #175 laZardo
Dad got the job, first check will be about a month from now due to probation period so 'survival mode' is gonna be just a bit longer.
That is just wonderful news Lazardo!
I'm happy for your family...
/Isn't the prayer list amazing? There has got to be a monk living in Tibet that reads LGF every Sunday and prays for us...Dude has got to have God's cell phone number handy...It is just amazing the feed back I get every week
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:17:57am |
re: #167 Cannadian Club Akbar
I'm glad the stimulus got passed and is gonna help keep unemployment at 8%.
[Link: www.sun-sentinel.com...]
This is the kind of projects the stimulus money has been spent on...
roduction and delivery of cooked deli breasts - $5,379,000
Southwest Expert DTV Installs - $648,000
And these lists and projects go on and on. If you look closely at the projects, you will see that most of these projects were PORK projects that would have eventually been placed inside bills and other legislation, all payoff's back to politicians districts. It must have been like christmas for these politicians to go donw their pork lists and cross all this shit off as "done."
If you want to really get upset, you poke around the official How tax payers money was wasted.
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jvic Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:18:39am |
re: #33 RadicalModerate
Gazing through some of the archived stories on the original suit - the original arrest was back in 2005 - there's a significant amount of speculation that may well have been a "Driving While Black" arrest. I'm not going to go that route, especially given the fact that cops have been known to taser 90-year-old ladies at the drop of a hat.
The "Driving While Black" interpretation crossed my mind too, but, as you say, who knows?
Or could it be "Suing While Black"? According to Wikipedia, the two judges who voted against the tasee were born in 1929 and 1937 (and appointed by President Reagan, I regret to admit). The dissenting judge is a Clinton appointee born in 1945.
Back in 1929, "those people" knew their place.
The foregoing is a pure guess, but the decision seems so, in the dissenting judge's words, 'off the wall' that it's hard not to speculate.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:19:05am |
re: #178 Walter L. Newton
And then there's this...
[Link: biggovernment.com...]
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:19:11am |
Interesting piece in Salon:
Progressive: Not just a euphemism for liberal
Unless the similar but not synonymous ideologies work together, taxpayers end up getting bilked
As a progressive, I'm often asked if there is a real difference between progressivism and liberalism, or if progressivism is merely a nicer-sounding term for the less popular L-word.It's a fair question, considering that Democratic politicians regularly substitute "progressive" for "liberal" in news releases and speeches. Predictably, Republicans call their opponents' linguistic shift a craven branding maneuver, and frankly, they're right: Most Democrats make no distinction between the two words.
However, that doesn't mean the ideologies are synonymous. In fact, if the last decade of economic policy proves anything, it is that even as the word "progressive" is now ubiquitous, a perverted form of liberalism has almost completely snuffed out genuine progressivism.
[Link: www.salon.com...]
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laZardo Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:21:22am |
re: #177 HoosierHoops
That is just wonderful news Lazardo!
I'm happy for your family...
/Isn't the prayer list amazing? There has got to be a monk living in Tibet that reads LGF every Sunday and prays for us...Dude has got to have God's cell phone number handy...It is just amazing the feed back I get every week
I thank the Global Zionist Conspiracy for pulling the right strings, even in Oman. ;)
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Digital Display Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:25:13am |
re: #178 Walter L. Newton
I just want to apologize again to you Walter...
I was watching Basketball last night and just jacked up when somebody brought up when I got outed on the web and I was just in the upper Frequency when you asked a question and i dumped on you...
You can count on one hand when anything has ever bother me on a blog..
Sorry i put you in the cross hair...I really am bro.
You didn't deserve that...I'm an idiot
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:26:28am |
re: #183 HoosierHoops
I just want to apologize again to you Walter...
I was watching Basketball last night and just jacked up when somebody brought up when I got outed on the web and I was just in the upper Frequency when you asked a question and i dumped on you...
You can count on one hand when anything has ever bother me on a blog..
Sorry i put you in the cross hair...I really am bro.
You didn't deserve that...I'm an idiot
Ok.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:29:22am |
This is absolutely sick thinking...
Folks... this is the kind of mentality that poisons education, local and national politics and world views. This medieval mind set needs to be overthrown.
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Jetpilot1101 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:30:41am |
OT: There have been some new rules put in place IRT the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy. This brief story outlines some of them. It is going to be a long slog in the service and it is going to be a painful process but I think it will eventually be for the better. There are going to have to be complete habit shifts for large numbers of military members. It will take focused effort.
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Digital Display Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:33:10am |
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:33:48am |
re: #185 Walter L. Newton
FTA:
A Kentucky pastor said it was "easier" that a Mennonite couple that was engaged to be married died together in a car crash Friday instead of one having to live without the other.
To me, that's almost a romantic view of life. I can see how someone would think something similar, with or without heaven being a consideration.
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:34:43am |
re: #188 RogueOne
PIMF. Bad quote tag, the last portion is mine. I see how someone could think something similar.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:35:01am |
re: #187 HoosierHoops
OK?
Ok..you accept my apology or OK I'm an idiot?
or both?
*wink*
I vote "both."
///
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Digital Display Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:35:53am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:37:21am |
My coffee pot shut off after a certain amount of time. Just took a big swig of cold coffee. Yuk.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:40:01am |
re: #188 RogueOne
FTA:
Fine... and I can see how that is brain-damaged thinking, heaven or no heaven, religion or no religion, beliefs or no beliefs. This ain't Romeo and Juliet folks, this is real life, and that's sick thinking.
I don't want that pastor in a position to ever have to make any life or death decisions for someone else. There is no fucking way to spin this as "romantic" or otherwise. That is putrid, period.
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cliffster Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:40:04am |
re: #183 HoosierHoops
You dumped on somebody? Bullshit. What'd you do, say, "you're being a little annoying"?
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:40:50am |
re: #194 cliffster
You dumped on somebody? Bullshit. What'd you do, say, "you're being a little annoying"?
Why doesn't everyone fucking drop it.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:41:23am |
re: #5 Gus 802
Philip Glass & Ravi Shankar - Ragas in Minor Scale
From "Passages", which is one of the greatest albums ever.
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laZardo Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:42:06am |
re: #195 Walter L. Newton
Why doesn't everyone fucking drop it.
/implying we don't hold grudges
/ q:
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:43:28am |
re: #197 laZardo
/implying we don't hold grudges
/ q:
I don't know what you are talking about. I'm not holding any grudge. HH and I went around on something last night, he said he was sorry, I accepted (last night) he reiterated his apology today, I said OK.
Where do you get off telling me I'm holding any grudge?
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laZardo Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:45:13am |
re: #198 Walter L. Newton
Just playing on the post I replied to. Note the extra sarc. Sorry.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:45:21am |
Move over, Avatar!!!!
[Link: artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com...]
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cliffster Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:45:58am |
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Digital Display Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:46:09am |
re: #195 Walter L. Newton
Why doesn't everyone fucking drop it.
Well..Well.. somebodies feelings are still hurt..
Sure we'll drop it..Sorry if I apologized to you...Your acceptance touched my heart...
It's fucking dropped Walter...
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:47:43am |
re: #193 Walter L. Newton
Fine... and I can see how that is brain-damaged thinking, heaven or no heaven, religion or no religion, beliefs or no beliefs. This ain't Romeo and Juliet folks, this is real life, and that's sick thinking.
I don't want that pastor in a position to ever have to make any life or death decisions for someone else. There is no fucking way to spin this as "romantic" or otherwise. That is putrid, period.
And here I thought I was the overly cynical one. You've never been in a relationship where you'd rather die than to have to live without the other person? For the sake of honesty I haven't but we read about situations like it all the time so I assume it happens.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:49:34am |
re: #203 RogueOne
What I find kind of amazing is when a couple married for a long time (40 plus years or so) die within a couple months of each other. Usually of natural causes.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:50:11am |
re: #202 HoosierHoops
Well..Well.. somebodies feelings are still hurt..
Sure we'll drop it..Sorry if I apologized to you...Your acceptance touched my heart...
It's fucking dropped Walter...
HH... stop. I was talking about other people jumping in on this, not your apology. You apology was accepted last night, reaffirmed just a little while ago, that should be the end of it. I'm sorry the subject was even brought up last night. But I don't need other people jumping in and making remarks.
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Digital Display Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:50:26am |
re: #204 Cannadian Club Akbar
What I find kind of amazing is when a couple married for a long time (40 plus years or so) die within a couple months of each other. Usually of
natural causes.a broken heart
FTFY
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:50:49am |
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cliffster Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:50:51am |
re: #204 Cannadian Club Akbar
What I find kind of amazing is when a couple married for a long time (40 plus years or so) die within a couple months of each other. Usually of natural causes.
Yeah, I don't know if you can say it happens more often than not, but it happens a lot.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:51:49am |
re: #203 RogueOne
And here I thought I was the overly cynical one. You've never been in a relationship where you'd rather die than to have to live without the other person? For the sake of honesty I haven't but we read about situations like it all the time so I assume it happens.
And I guess people commit suicide because they are despondent over loosing a loved one, still don't make it right. There is no way this pastors statement was good, right, clear thinking, whatever.
You call it cynical, I call it logical.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:52:20am |
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:53:10am |
re: #192 Cannadian Club Akbar
My coffee pot shut off after a certain amount of time. Just took a big swig of cold coffee. Yuk.
SHOOT IT.
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Digital Display Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:54:37am |
re: #212 MandyManners
SHOOT IT.
LOL
There has got to be a story somewhere of somebody shooting their Coffee pot.
Good Morning Mandy
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:55:37am |
re: #203 RogueOne
And here I thought I was the overly cynical one. You've never been in a relationship where you'd rather die than to have to live without the other person? For the sake of honesty I haven't but we read about situations like it all the time so I assume it happens.
I'm trying to wrap my mind around this thinking. I've been in relationships where I wanted the other person to die, I've been in relationships where I didn't want anyone to die, but I've never been in a relationship where I WANTED TO DIE FOR ANY REASON.
I'm sorry, I don't let any emotions get that embedded into my psychs to the point that it's going to interfere with logical thought.
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albusteve Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:56:39am |
another TSA nominee drops out...that's number two
[Link: www.chron.com...]
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cliffster Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:56:45am |
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Aceofwhat? Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:57:56am |
you guys are harshing my buzz. Afghan Star is on HBO in the background - first time i've watched this movie. Never wanted to hug a bunch of random tribespeople so much in my life. what a great documentary.
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Digital Display Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:58:28am |
re: #216 albusteve
another TSA nominee drops out...that's number two
[Link: www.chron.com...]
You know what isn't said?
( I'm making a boat load of money being a Contractor )
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Digital Display Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:59:03am |
re: #218 Aceofwhat?
you guys are harshing my buzz. Afghan Star is on HBO in the background - first time i've watched this movie. Never wanted to hug a bunch of random tribespeople so much in my life. what a great documentary.
I saw that last week...Great great show
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 7:59:53am |
re: #215 MandyManners
Petey's missing from his cage. bbiab
I took in 2 birds from someone that was gonna let them loose (see-bait). Every time I came home from work, the male was out. I ended up giving them to a friend's neighbor. (11 year old)
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Jetpilot1101 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:01:28am |
OT: Hey folks, do you know what day it is?
It's the 27th of March, time for the 4th Annual Earth Hour where everyone turns off their lights for an hour in an effort to reduce energy consumption!
I'd participate but I have a huge online meeting scheduled at 2030 hours in World of Wardork so the planet will have to wait.
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:01:50am |
re: #214 Walter L. Newton
I'm trying to wrap my mind around this thinking. I've been in relationships where I wanted the other person to die, I've been in relationships where I didn't want anyone to die, but I've never been in a relationship where I WANTED TO DIE FOR ANY REASON.
I'm sorry, I don't let any emotions get that embedded into my psychs to the point that it's going to interfere with logical thought.
I get that. I'm cold enough that my friends tease me about being a psychopath. I'm 3/4 of the way through a bottle of nyquil so maybe that's why I'm seeing the romance in what the preacher said. Either way according to the Amish around here Mennonites are going to burn anyway.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:02:58am |
re: #222 Jetpilot1101
OT: Hey folks, do you know what day it is?
It's the 27th of March, time for the 4th Annual Earth Hour where everyone turns off their lights for an hour in an effort to reduce energy consumption!
I'd participate but I have a huge online meeting scheduled at 2030 hours in World of Wardork so the planet will have to wait.
Mentioned earlier. My response.
re: #158 Cannadian Club Akbar
See, I'm gonna start my truck and let it idle in the driveway for an hour.
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:03:53am |
Good morning Lizards .... I'm thinking about the diplomatic conflict between the Obama administration and the Israelis and wondering how this happened. In looking at it, I have more questions than answers. Here are a few.
Did the Netanyahu government look at how Obama seems to bend over backwards to kowtow to our enemies and figure that governments who insult Obama are more likely to be treated well?
Does Obama's monster ego cause him to perceive any conflict as a personal insult that must be answered in kind?
I have seen this happen more than once with those whom he feels he is "more powerful" than, such as Israel or hapless American politicians who oppose him. Remember when he called Hillary "Annie Oakley" because she disagreed with him? It is a most unsavory trait.
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laZardo Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:04:25am |
re: #222 Jetpilot1101
OT: Hey folks, do you know what day it is?
It's the 27th of March, time for the 4th Annual Earth Hour where everyone turns off their lights for an hour in an effort to reduce energy consumption!
I'd participate but I have a huge online meeting scheduled at 2030 hours in World of Wardork so the planet will have to wait.
What CCA said, see my #157.
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laZardo Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:05:02am |
re: #225 _RememberTonyC
Speaking of conflict, see my #18 for the start of Cast Lead II.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:05:04am |
re: #223 RogueOne
I get that. I'm cold enough that my friends tease me about being a psychopath. I'm 3/4 of the way through a bottle of nyquil so maybe that's why I'm seeing the romance in what the preacher said. Either way according to the Amish around here Mennonites are going to burn anyway.
LOL...
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Macha Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:06:18am |
re: #37 Gus 802
OK Yeah. Must be rough for a cop to control a 90 year old woman that goes out of control. One would think a trained policeman could avoid that. I suppose that's different then using old fashioned muscle power. I think the office on the scene needing to use a tazer against a woman over 60, unless she's a muscle builder, to have weak upper body strength and shouldn't even be on the force to begin with.
You would think they would use something other than brute force in a number of circumstances, but most cops simply aren't taught any other form of management of assaultive behavior. I've seen it dozens of times when I worked in a very large jail for a number of years. If the person needing control were in a mental facility, out of control behavior would be managed by three or four persons, half of them women, without harm to anyone. The argument given for continuing the use of taser, or direct 'slam em down no matter what' is that the suspect might be armed or know some kind of martial arts. There is some truth in that, but unfortuately that criteria is applied to everyone, including 90 year old women. There are exceptions to this of course and there are many cops out there who use good judgement in arrest situations.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:06:40am |
re: #225 _RememberTonyC
Obama's positioning and position on this is no different than Clinton or Bush. How many times does that have to be pointed out. Even Charles pointed that out.
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Jetpilot1101 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:07:02am |
re: #224 Cannadian Club Akbar
Sorry, I just made it into the conversation. In all honesty, I have to fly tonight which means that while the lights will be off in my house, I'll be climbing into an aircraft for 3 hours to get my semi-annual minimums done. This lovely flying machine pumps out around 20,000 pounds of CO2 per hour.
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:07:09am |
re: #203 RogueOne
And here I thought I was the overly cynical one. You've never been in a relationship where you'd rather die than to have to live without the other person? For the sake of honesty I haven't but we read about situations like it all the time so I assume it happens.
What we all too often read about in the press are the situations where one spouse (almost always the male) decides that he would rather kill her than have to live without her...and then he kills himself as a bonus.
Very romantic.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:08:47am |
re: #232 Jetpilot1101
No. It's cool. I was just pointing out my snarky remark! And as for your flying today, WAY COOL!
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:08:48am |
re: #233 Spare O'Lake
What we all too often read about in the press are the situations where one spouse (almost always the male) decides that he would rather kill her than have to live without her...and then he kills himself as a bonus.
Very romantic.
HA! "Look what she made me do!" is always romantic. Love hurts baby.
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Oh no...Sand People! Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:09:05am |
re: #84 laZardo
I actually do not trust cops at all, especially living in Manila for so long. I think it'd be very safe to assume that they are either looking for ways to garnish their gratuitously low salaries or are just in it for the sadistic kicks.
Cost of bribes in Manila to traffic police for the 4 times I was stopped: 2000 pesos
Cost of Pinoy drivers license: 600 pesos
Never bought the license and saved myself 600 pesos. heh.
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Digital Display Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:09:08am |
re: #224 Cannadian Club Akbar
A couple of years ago in the middle of winter I went out and warmed up my car..When I went back out some drunk punk stole my car....
He drove it home and passed out...It took the cops about an hour to find my red Beemer in a trailer park...
I hope he enjoyed his time in jail...
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Digital Display Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:09:59am |
re: #232 Jetpilot1101
Sorry, I just made it into the conversation. In all honesty, I have to fly tonight which means that while the lights will be off in my house, I'll be climbing into an aircraft for 3 hours to get my semi-annual minimums done. This lovely flying machine pumps out around 20,000 pounds of CO2 per hour.
Take me! take me!
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:10:18am |
re: #221 Cannadian Club Akbar
I found the furry little bastard in the animals' closet where we keep their food, toys, leashes and the like. He'd eaten a hole in his feed bag. Gah. What a mess.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:10:26am |
re: #237 HoosierHoops
A couple of years ago in the middle of winter I went out and warmed up my car..When I went back out some drunk punk stole my car...
He drove it home and passed out...It took the cops about an hour to find my red Beemer in a trailer park...
I hope he enjoyed his time in jail...
I used to know a funny BMW/driver joke, but I can't remember it.
/
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Jetpilot1101 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:11:27am |
re: #238 HoosierHoops
Take me! take me!
HH, I'd take you in a heartbeat if it weren't for those pesky regulations I have to abide by.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:11:41am |
re: #225 _RememberTonyC
Good morning Lizards ... I'm thinking about the diplomatic conflict between the Obama administration and the Israelis and wondering how this happened. In looking at it, I have more questions than answers. Here are a few.
Did the Netanyahu government look at how Obama seems to bend over backwards to kowtow to our enemies and figure that governments who insult Obama are more likely to be treated well?
Does Obama's monster ego cause him to perceive any conflict as a personal insult that must be answered in kind?
I have seen this happen more than once with those whom he feels he is "more powerful" than, such as Israel or hapless American politicians who oppose him. Remember when he called Hillary "Annie Oakley" because she disagreed with him? It is a most unsavory trait.
DING! Naricissitic wounds go deeep.
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:11:55am |
re: #231 Walter L. Newton
Obama's positioning and position on this is no different than Clinton or Bush. How many times does that have to be pointed out. Even Charles pointed that out.
Bullshit .... you have no sense of diplomacy or nuance on this issue. Perception is reality in the arab/muslim world and Obama is seen as anti Israel. Bush was not seen that way. I'll quote one of your guys and say "this is a big fucking deal." I respectfully disagree with your assessment.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:12:11am |
re: #241 Jetpilot1101
HH, I'd take you in a heartbeat if it weren't for those pesky regulations I have to abide by.
So, I'm guessing no cooler full of beer?
/
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:12:16am |
re: #233 Spare O'Lake
Speaking of which this just came up on my playlist, a love story from Alice:
Gail
It's been an Alice Cooper morning.
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:12:30am |
re: #231 Walter L. Newton
Obama's positioning and position on this is no different than Clinton or Bush. How many times does that have to be pointed out. Even Charles pointed that out.
Even if that were true, which is not admitted, it doesn't make it right and it doesn't give anyone a tu quoque pass.
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laZardo Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:12:39am |
re: #236 Oh no...Sand People!
I got pulled over once for bad lane-changing in one of the few higher-class places in the city where they actually enforced traffic law. Thankfully I had my ever-so-cautious parents riding in the car to talk the officer into just giving me a warning, since my lack of local accent would've caused us to bribe him even more. ):
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:13:18am |
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:13:26am |
I'm getting ready to have a lot of fun in a bit. The girlfriend and I are going to the supermarket to do food shopping for Passover. SO much fun going up and down the isles and looking at food and stuff and dealing with the nice clerks and crowds and terrible muzak and...
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Oh no...Sand People! Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:14:05am |
re: #247 laZardo
I got pulled over once for bad lane-changing in one of the few higher-class places in the city where they actually enforced traffic law. Thankfully I had my ever-so-cautious parents riding in the car to talk the officer into just giving me a warning, since my lack of local accent would've caused us to bribe him even more. ):
I got busted for driving through the 'bus lane'... when ya gotta get to Greenhills..ya gotta get to Greenhills.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:14:15am |
re: #243 _RememberTonyC
Bullshit ... you have no sense of diplomacy or nuance on this issue. Perception is reality in the arab/muslim world and Obama is seen as anti Israel. Bush was not seen that way. I'll quote one of your guys and say "this is a big fucking deal." I respectfully disagree with your assessment.
re: #246 Spare O'Lake
Even if that were true, which is not admitted, it doesn't make it right and it doesn't give anyone a tu quoque pass.
I changed my mind.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:14:40am |
re: #249 Walter L. Newton
Yea. Clerks at the grocery store are a pain in the ass.
///
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:14:51am |
re: #249 Walter L. Newton
I'm getting ready to have a lot of fun in a bit. The girlfriend and I are going to the supermarket to do food shopping for Passover. SO much fun going up and down the isles and looking at food and stuff and dealing with the nice clerks and crowds and terrible muzak and...
NOT!
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Digital Display Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:14:58am |
re: #241 Jetpilot1101
HH, I'd take you in a heartbeat if it weren't for those pesky regulations I have to abide by.
Damn!
/Sorry Maverick.. The pattern is full
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Oh no...Sand People! Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:15:08am |
re: #249 Walter L. Newton
I'm getting ready to have a lot of fun in a bit. The girlfriend and I are going to the supermarket to do food shopping for Passover. SO much fun going up and down the isles and looking at food and stuff and dealing with the nice clerks and crowds and terrible muzak and...
At first I was like, "Walter...you dog :)"...then I was like, "...oh."
Well, good on ya.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:15:51am |
The comment by Gen. James Conway is the latest pushback by a small but vocal faction of senior military leaders opposed to a repeal of the 1993 law known as “don’t ask, don’t tell.”
President Obama says the ban is unfair, and Defense Secretary Robert Gates has launched a lengthy study to determine how to allow gays to serve openly without hurting military effectiveness.
Among the questions to be answered is whether changes to housing policies would even be necessary.
Conway, a known opponent of repealing the law, suggested in an interview published Friday by Military.com that he already knows it would be a logistical hurdle. On base, Marines typically sleep two to a room.
“I would not ask our Marines to live with someone who is homosexual if we can possibly avoid it,” he said.
“And to me that means we have to build BEQs [bachelor enlisted quarters] and have single rooms,” he said.
SNIP
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:15:58am |
re: #18 laZardo
Also good afternoon.
one COULD make the argument that Obama's strategy will make it worse for everyone. Israel knows the American PEOPLE support it ... at least for now. Our POTUS has the power to damage that element of trust through his bully pulpet. But Israel isn't dumb, they'll do what is necessary to survive.
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Jetpilot1101 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:16:33am |
re: #244 Cannadian Club Akbar
So, I'm guessing no cooler full of beer?
/
Not during the flight. Funny story: I had a friend I used to fly with who would carry around empty beer cans in his flight bag. After takeoff, he'd wait about 15 minutes and then toss one back from the flight deck into the passenger compartment. He'd do this every 15 minutes or so until someone walked up and said something. I think his record was six.
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laZardo Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:17:07am |
re: #250 Oh no...Sand People!
I got busted for driving through the 'bus lane'... when ya gotta get to Greenhills..ya gotta get to Greenhills.
I blame the u-turn system.
Though as expensive and environmentally unsound as driving can be, it's safer than walking.
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Oh no...Sand People! Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:17:13am |
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:17:21am |
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:17:28am |
re: #255 Oh no...Sand People!
At first I was like, "Walter...you dog :)"...then I was like, "...oh."
Well, good on ya.
I was being sarcastic. And by the way, this Wed., I join the work force of supermarket professionals as a cashier in training, part time, at a supermarket up here near my house. Only part time, but it will take care of my financial obligations and it's better than sitting on my ass. I'm still looking for a full time programming job, but I'm happy to have something.
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jaunte Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:18:48am |
re: #257 _RememberTonyC
one COULD make the argument that Obama's strategy will make it worse for everyone. Israel knows the American PEOPLE support it ... at least for now. Our POTUS has the power to damage that element of trust through his bully pulpet. But Israel isn't dumb, they'll do what is necessary to survive.
The message "you're on your own" will have some violent consequences.
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Aceofwhat? Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:20:10am |
re: #256 MandyManners
sheesh. they'll jump out of a perfectly good air transport but they're too scaredy to sleep in a room with teh ghey? methinks the commandant hath too low an opinion of our good men and women in uni...
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Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:20:21am |
re: #263 jaunte
We saw your cover for the LGF cookbook last night. Excellent job!
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Oh no...Sand People! Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:20:43am |
re: #259 laZardo
I blame the u-turn system.
Though as expensive and environmentally unsound as driving can be, it's safer than walking.
To be honest, I am shocked that something like that isn't a daily occurrence. I have never seen more people and vehicles crammed together in my life.
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:21:15am |
re: #263 jaunte
The message "you're on your own" will have some violent consequences.
I just hope Obama's team is working hard on those green jobs where they wean us off mideast oil. Have the scientific geniuses made major progress in that area? Or were they busy
fixing
something far less urgent?
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jaunte Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:21:52am |
re: #266 Killgore Trout
Thanks! I'm sorry it's taken so long, but this version of the cookbook also has 14 interior illustrations. There's one in there of you tending your garden at the front of the Gardening tips section.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:21:54am |
Nothing less than Cardinal Sean Brady’s resignation will diminish fury at the highest levels in Rome over his role in paedophile priest cover-ups.
The Northern Ireland Assembly prepared last night to order an official investigation into child abuse in the Province after details emerged of more attacks on children by members of the clergy.
Dr Brady is spending the days before Easter considering his position as Archbishop of Armagh. Although there is no canonical procedure to remove him, if he refuses to go voluntarily pressure from the Holy See will make his departure inevitable. “Ireland needs a fresh start,” a source in Rome said. “By clinging on, he is putting his own interests before the Church’s.”
SNIP
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Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:22:21am |
Michelle Malkin on Earth Hour....
Tonight at 8:30 p.m. EDT, my house is going to be lit up brighter than Perth, Australia when John Glenn flew over in Friendship 7. Here’s why…Another “Earth Hour” is upon us. This is the night we’re supposed to turn off all our lights in solidarity with… darkness, or something. It’s also symbolic of a desire to “take action on global climate change.”
...
Additionally, I refuse to acknowledge, symbolically or otherwise, that electricity is the problem and that civilization can be saved by turning itself into North Korea for any length of time.
...
My own theory for the thinking behind Earth Hour is that Al Gore and his fellow enviro-scammers have settled on going dark as the single best way to make sure nobody can see them pick-pocketing the world.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:22:36am |
re: #260 Oh no...Sand People!
Hmmm... I don't know what to make of that.
He's a Marine. He'll follow orders.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:23:02am |
re: #269 jaunte
Thanks! I'm sorry it's taken so long, but this version of the cookbook also has 14 interior illustrations. There's one in there of you tending your garden at the front of the Gardening tips section.
No Way! I can't wait to see it!
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Jetpilot1101 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:23:41am |
re: #256 MandyManners
Big changes are coming in the military if "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" changes. I'd have no problem sharing a room with an openly gay man (I'm happily married to a lovely woman) but I can tell you that there are folks I work with who would really have a problem with it. There are folks in the military who would have a problem pissing next to an openly gay man at a urinal. It sounds homophobic but unlike other facets of private business where gay people have been making inroads for years, the military has not. Right or wrong, this would be a huge step all at once and it will be a long painful process before all is said an done.
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Aceofwhat? Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:23:57am |
re: #271 Killgore Trout
you're going to hate me, but that was kinda funny...
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:23:59am |
re: #229 Cannadian Club Akbar
But, but, he won.
/
he's 1-0 so far in national politics. Bush 41 was 1-0 too ...
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:24:01am |
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jaunte Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:24:38am |
re: #273 Killgore Trout
Way! (In your lizard guise, of course).
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:24:52am |
re: #276 _RememberTonyC
he's 1-0 so far in national politics. Bush 41 was 1-0 too ...
As was Carter.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:26:26am |
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:26:28am |
re: #268 _RememberTonyC
something far less urgent?
What's more important than distracting people from a collapsing economy? It's circus time, delay and distract! That's why they're going into Cap and trade and immigration reform next, they need another fight.
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:27:07am |
re: #274 Jetpilot1101
Big changes are coming in the military if "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" changes. I'd have no problem sharing a room with an openly gay man (I'm happily married to a lovely woman) but I can tell you that there are folks I work with who would really have a problem with it. There are folks in the military who would have a problem pissing next to an openly gay man at a urinal. It sounds homophobic but unlike other facets of private business where gay people have been making inroads for years, the military has not. Right or wrong, this would be a huge step all at once and it will be a long painful process before all is said and done.
That's what the homophobes are worried about.
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:27:19am |
re: #279 Cannadian Club Akbar
As was Carter.
Indeed ... excellent point. If Obama keeps up his breakneck speed to do too much too soon, he's not gonna be 2-0. He has to let the dust settle before the next big thing. And the GOP has to grow up and find smart ways to oppose his programs. If both of those things happen, we'll be OK.
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jaunte Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:27:50am |
Drought conditions assisting Venezuela with Earth Hour:
Outside the capital Caracas, Venezuelans face power cuts of up to six hours a day. On Wednesday, Chavez decreed three extra vacation days during Easter week to save electricity.
[Link: www.timeslive.co.za...]
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:27:57am |
re: #282 RogueOne
What's more important than distracting people from a collapsing economy? It's circus time, delay and distract! That's why they're going into Cap and trade and immigration reform next, they need another fight.
too much too soon ... they gotta slow down a bit.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:28:11am |
re: #265 Aceofwhat?
sheesh. they'll jump out of a perfectly good air transport but they're too scaredy to sleep in a room with teh ghey? methinks the commandant hath too low an opinion of our good men and women in uni...
If you read the article, you'll see that he's not the only one. He said in his interview with military.com that his Marines are against repealing DADT.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:29:27am |
re: #274 Jetpilot1101
Big changes are coming in the military if "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" changes. I'd have no problem sharing a room with an openly gay man (I'm happily married to a lovely woman) but I can tell you that there are folks I work with who would really have a problem with it. There are folks in the military who would have a problem pissing next to an openly gay man at a urinal. It sounds homophobic but unlike other facets of private business where gay people have been making inroads for years, the military has not. Right or wrong, this would be a huge step all at once and it will be a long painful process before all is said an done.
How many will "vote with your feet"?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:29:43am |
re: #286 _RememberTonyC
too much too soon ... they gotta slow down a bit.
I worry more about what they pass while others are distracted by something big. Slight of hand.
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Digital Display Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:30:29am |
Watching Demons & Angels decoded..
Why do they keep talking about the element of Fire?
Fire isn't an element..It's a organic reaction..
Jeez
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:30:30am |
re: #281 Walter L. Newton
Don't hurt yourself.
You wanna' mess with a cat? Talk to him from a fourth-floor window.
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Aceofwhat? Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:31:12am |
re: #285 jaunte
Drought conditions assisting Venezuela with Earth Hour:
Aww, he's just a big tree-hugger at heart//
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:31:47am |
re: #291 MandyManners
You wanna' mess with a cat? Talk to him from a fourth-floor window.
Show him the bird.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:32:38am |
re: #278 jaunte
I can't wait. That really made my day! Thanks again. That's a lot of work. We really appreciate it.
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:33:34am |
re: #289 Cannadian Club Akbar
I worry more about what they pass while others are distracted by something big. Slight of hand.
the smartest thing a teacher ever said to me was by my jr year high school history teacher in Brockton, Mass. Her name was Ms. Dounelis and she simply said "the masses are asses." She said this right after introducing herself on the first day of classes. Truer words were never spoken ...
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Aceofwhat? Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:35:05am |
re: #287 MandyManners
If you read the article, you'll see that he's not the only one. He said in his interview with military.com that his Marines are against repealing DADT.
my guess - the population of marines who oppose the repeal are the same guys who ogle women in exactly the manner they fear from a homosexual. they need to grow a real pair of stones.
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Jetpilot1101 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:35:06am |
re: #288 MandyManners
How many will "vote with your feet"?
That is tough to say. If you ask me, I think some folks will use the Human Relations regulations to make openly gay personnel lives a living hell. It is not too hard to file an HR complaint for sexual harassment and evey claim must be investigated for merit. HR violations are morale killers. I can see someone filing a complaint for something as simple as "he oggled me in the shower and I feel uncomfortable". Harassment is a two-way street and we all know that. Throw openly gay members into the mix and you have huge problems even if the complaints are without merit.
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:36:33am |
Hoosier ... great year for Hoosier Hoops. Purdue was scrappy, but couldn't overcome Hummel's absence. Butler is my team now. Bring Dennis Hopper to speak to the team ... he's dying of cancer but I saw he was out and about yesterday. What an inspiration it would be!
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Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:38:15am |
re: #275 Aceofwhat?
They do it every year. It the contrarian nature of modern conservatism. If someone wants to conserve energy, they want to waste it. Malkin thinks Obama's childhood obesity campaign is a socialist plot to benefit the unions.
I saw this last night saw this....
Jamie Oliver's Ministry of Food Control
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
They don't want healthy food for kids. It's pretty amazing what they'll oppose just because someone else endorses it.
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Jetpilot1101 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:38:31am |
re: #296 Aceofwhat?
my guess - the population of marines who oppose the repeal are the same guys who ogle women in exactly the manner they fear from a homosexual. they need to grow a real pair of stones.
Spot on. But see, ogling women in their mind is "normal" whereas ogling a dude is not. The problem is, the woman may or may not file the complaint (most won't unless the harassment is really bad) but you can bet the dude getting ogled will file especially if he has an axe to grind with the gay member.
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Digital Display Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:39:31am |
re: #298 _RememberTonyC
Hoosier ... great year for Hoosier Hoops. Purdue was scrappy, but couldn't overcome Hummel's absence. Butler is my team now. Bring Dennis Hopper to speak to the team ... he's dying of cancer but I saw he was out and about yesterday. What an inspiration it would be!
I'll really miss the Hoosier spirit of Basketball..I'm out of here this summer..But it has been a great experience living in Basketball crazy Indiana.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:40:54am |
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:41:48am |
re: #301 HoosierHoops
I'll really miss the Hoosier spirit of Basketball..I'm out of here this summer..But it has been a great experience living in Basketball crazy Indiana.
where ya going?
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darthstar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:42:15am |
re: #282 RogueOne
What's more important than distracting people from a collapsing economy? It's circus time, delay and distract! That's why they're going into Cap and trade and immigration reform next, they need another fight.
Jobs bill is next. Financial regulation and consumer protection (bad, BAD! SOCIALISM) then Immigration Reform going into November. This will force the "we won't cooperate on anything" GOP to either be anti-jobs, anti-consumer protection, AND anti-anyone-not-white as a party...not the best platform. If they're smart, the Republicans will spend this recess watching clips from Sesame Street on YouTube about the word CO-OP-ER-ATION.
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soap_man Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:42:17am |
re: #274 Jetpilot1101
Big changes are coming in the military if "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" changes. I'd have no problem sharing a room with an openly gay man (I'm happily married to a lovely woman) but I can tell you that there are folks I work with who would really have a problem with it. There are folks in the military who would have a problem pissing next to an openly gay man at a urinal. It sounds homophobic but unlike other facets of private business where gay people have been making inroads for years, the military has not. Right or wrong, this would be a huge step all at once and it will be a long painful process before all is said an done.
Morning jetpilot.
I'm only speaking as a civilian—a young one—but I'm not sure this will be as disruptive as when the military desegregated. While I'm sure there were plenty of disruptions, to quote the West Wing (the show): "It did disrupt the unit, but you know what? The unit got over it."
I have a few friends in military (Marines and Navy) and a cousin in the Air Force who have given mixed opinions about that statement. Your thoughts?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:42:44am |
I've tried to avoid cleaning my fridge, but I can't anymore. See ya'll in a bit.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:43:54am |
re: #297 Jetpilot1101
That is tough to say. If you ask me, I think some folks will use the Human Relations regulations to make openly gay personnel lives a living hell. It is not too hard to file an HR complaint for sexual harassment and evey claim must be investigated for merit. HR violations are morale killers. I can see someone filing a complaint for something as simple as "he oggled me in the shower and I feel uncomfortable". Harassment is a two-way street and we all know that. Throw openly gay members into the mix and you have huge problems even if the complaints are without merit.
If DADT is repealed, I'd hope that no servicemember would do that if not true. It would be dishonorable.
I think what Mullen was talking about was a refusal to join and a refusal to reenlist.
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wrenchwench Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:44:06am |
re: #306 Cannadian Club Akbar
I've tried to avoid cleaning my fridge, but I can't anymore. See ya'll in a bit.
Be careful!
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jaunte Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:44:44am |
Wall Street gets a windfall:
Insurers Give Up as Investors
While many insurers looked after their own investments for decades, lately more have looked for some help, after finding themselves caught off guard by the weakness, or complexity, of their own portfolios. Insurers last year outsourced management of more than $1.1 trillion, according to industry estimates, up from about $980 billion in 2008.
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Aceofwhat? Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:45:00am |
re: #299 Killgore Trout
They do it every year. It the contrarian nature of modern conservatism. If someone wants to conserve energy, they want to waste it. Malkin thinks Obama's childhood obesity campaign is a socialist plot to benefit the unions.
I saw this last night saw this...
Jamie Oliver's Ministry of Food Control[Link: www.youtube.com...]
They don't want healthy food for kids. It's pretty amazing what they'll oppose just because someone else endorses it.
so i clicked your link, and then a few more through that to an actual story from an actual Londoner...here's a comment on the page from someone in a British school after the menu was "Olivered"
im still at school and i have to say we have hardley any nice meals - all they did was took away the sausages, the spegetti the chips but they never put anything healthy back in - except they have crappy caged chicken meat burgers - broken cakes and its all so overpriced - who would pay 90p for a biscuit? i wouldnt and the lines we have to wait in to get to the food take about 20 minutes on good days - most people push to the front so ur left waitin while people who got there much later then you eat there food - by the time u get there - everythings gone
Are you sure this is opposition just because someone else endorses it? Or maybe this is opposition to a good chef with a terrible ability to implement real ideas to create real results?
Don't be so quick to label others to be quick to label...
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:45:08am |
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:45:13am |
re: #296 Aceofwhat?
my guess - the population of marines who oppose the repeal are the same guys who ogle women in exactly the manner they fear from a homosexual. they need to grow a real pair of stones.
He said an overwhelming majority of Marines are against it.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:45:50am |
re: #306 Cannadian Club Akbar
I've tried to avoid cleaning my fridge, but I can't anymore. See ya'll in a bit.
SHOOT IT.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:46:18am |
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:46:28am |
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:46:49am |
re: #314 MandyManners
Flipping him the bird would be mean.
Flipping, I meant to feed that little bird to him, the one that got loose.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:47:22am |
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Digital Display Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:48:25am |
re: #303 _RememberTonyC
where ya going?
Well I was headed to Singapore..But that got delayed a year...
Our Company signed a major Contract with a certain state to build a plant and employ about a 100 people.. I need to build the network and manage it for awhile. It is across the street from a major University.. I'll announce it shortly after the press release...A curve ball.. But an exciting one!
I'll email Charles in the next week or so..Dude..I'm moving to a major College town closer to California (Home)...It's very cool
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gregb Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:48:38am |
Iranian Photoshop Mil Corps get new tools. :-)
[Link: www.vizworld.com...]
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soap_man Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:48:52am |
U.S. take if it sells its Citi stake to settle cost of bailout: $8 billion
The Obama administration is making final preparations to sell its stake in the New York bank, according to industry and federal sources. At today's prices, the sale would net more than $8 billion, by far the largest profit returned from any firm that accepted bailout funds, and the transaction would be the second-largest stock sale in history.
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albusteve Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:49:17am |
NYT stiffs the Boston Globe...pretty funny
"We were astonished to learn that the two of you received more than $10 million in stock awards and options in 2009," the Guild wrote in an open letter urging its members to send to Sulzberger and Robinson. "During the year for which you were so richly rewarded, the 600 members of the Boston Newspaper Guild gave back almost the same amount in pay and benefit reductions -- $10 million to be exact -- after you threatened to close our newspaper, lay off hundreds of people, and strip Massachusetts of its largest newspaper."
Read more: [Link: www.nypost.com...]
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Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:50:21am |
re: #310 Aceofwhat?
Are you sure this is opposition just because someone else endorses it? Or maybe this is opposition to a good chef with a terrible ability to implement real ideas to create real results?
Yeah, a lot of people are pissed off about the changes. Our relationship with food has been changing over the past few generations and many kids today won't eat unprocessed food. Without the chemicals it just doesn't taste right for them. Fewer people know how to cook for themselves these days and really on prepackaged food which makes them obese and gives the diabetes. It's really pretty sad and it is a national crisis.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:51:13am |
re: #317 Walter L. Newton
I'm confused, didn't you say a bird got out of his cage?
Nope. Petey's a furry little bastard.
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:52:09am |
re: #318 HoosierHoops
Well I was headed to Singapore..But that got delayed a year...
Our Company signed a major Contract with a certain state to build a plant and employ about a 100 people.. I need to build the network and manage it for awhile. It is across the street from a major University.. I'll announce it shortly after the press release...A curve ball.. But an exciting one!
I'll email Charles in the next week or so..Dude..I'm moving to a major College town closer to California (Home)...It's very cool
That's great to hear ... hopefully it's NoCal and not SoCal. You'll kick ass. I like the Sacramento Kings' future. Good young talent.
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soap_man Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:52:21am |
re: #322 Killgore Trout
Yeah, a lot of people are pissed off about the changes. Our relationship with food has been changing over the past few generations and many kids today won't eat unprocessed food. Without the chemicals it just doesn't taste right for them. Fewer people know how to cook for themselves these days and really on prepackaged food which makes them obese and gives the diabetes. It's really pretty sad and it is a national crisis.
I'm not a vegan, but I admire a friend of mine who is raising her child vegan. The kid is about 2—so who knows if he will keep it up when he starts going to school and can buy food on his own—but she is a damn fine cook and is starting him off on a healthy path.
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jaunte Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:52:52am |
re: #321 albusteve
NYT stiffs the Boston Globe...pretty funny
Pinched!
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Jetpilot1101 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:53:22am |
re: #305 soap_man
I've been in the military for 16 years and I have absolutely no problem with a member's sexual choices. That being said, I know more than a few in the military who do. While I don't think that there will be large scale upheaval, I do anticipate a few, more than likely isolated, incidents that could significantly impact unit morale. Some of those incidents could have to potential tim impact the military as a whole. Some of that impact could come from members deciding now is the time to flaunt their sexuality because the regs say they can; some will come from those who are homophobic. Only time will tell. I can promise you that at least in my office, I will do what it takes to uphold whatever reg comes down and ensure that all members are treated equally. I didn't join the military to protect your rights only to turn around and stomp on someone else's because I don't like what they do in their bedroom. I hope most feel like I do; I'll do my best to change the minds of those that don't.
re: #307 MandyManners
Mandy, the vast majority of military members are honorable but there is a slice of the military that doesn't care for the core values. I'm worried about those folks. As for the people that decide to leave; as always, that is their choice. My opinion is that they are being petty but again, it's their choice.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:53:22am |
re: #322 Killgore Trout
Yeah, a lot of people are pissed off about the changes. Our relationship with food has been changing over the past few generations and many kids today won't eat unprocessed food. Without the chemicals it just doesn't taste right for them. Fewer people know how to cook for themselves these days and really on prepackaged food which makes them obese and gives the diabetes. It's really pretty sad and it is a national crisis.
A crisis?
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:54:56am |
re: #327 Jetpilot1101
the vast majority of military members are honorable but there is a slice of the military that doesn't care for the core values. I'm worried about those folks
Well, maybe they should just leave if they cannot follow orders and not bring disruption to their units.
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Digital Display Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:55:08am |
re: #323 MandyManners
Nope. Petey's a furry little bastard.
I'm not sure why..But everytime I hear this song..It reminds me of you..
Regards
[Link: www.mtv.com...]
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bratwurst Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:56:08am |
re: #299 Killgore Trout
They don't want healthy food for kids. It's pretty amazing what they'll oppose just because someone else endorses it.
Why do they hate our right to be fat?
/
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:56:55am |
re: #321 albusteve
Steve... I'm going out for a few hours. If you really meant you were going to call, best time to get me would be tomorrow, anytime, all day, will be home all day getting some things ready for passover.
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Jetpilot1101 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 8:57:15am |
re: #329 MandyManners
Well, maybe they should just leave if they cannot follow orders and not bring disruption to their units.
I couldn't agree more but either they need to do something to get them thrown out or they need to leave on their own. Weeding them out will take time and time is all they need to make the lives of a few a living hell.
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albusteve Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:00:06am |
the feds are corrupt...as for me, they have no moral ground to tell me what to do...what's up with that slimeball Rangle, Pelosis ninny?....I hate the feds
In 2008 alone, 447 House employees and 231 Senate workers didn’t pay their taxes, according to figures from the IRS, Office of Personnel Management, and Department of Defense. Federal employees in the U.S. House of Representatives owed more than $5.8 million in unpaid taxes in 2008. The Senate employees owe more than $2.46 million, according to figures.
Read more: [Link: www.politico.com...]
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_RememberTonyC Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:00:14am |
My son has an outdoor tennis match and it's about 40 degrees in CT .... time to layer up and go watch him play.
Later Lizards ...
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:00:40am |
re: #330 HoosierHoops
I'm not sure why..But everytime I hear this song..It reminds me of you..
Regards
[Link: www.mtv.com...]
That's a pretty tune! Thank you!
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pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:01:24am |
re: #334 albusteve
The laws are for thee, not me. Old congressional saying.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:01:28am |
re: #333 Jetpilot1101
I couldn't agree more but either they need to do something to get them thrown out or they need to leave on their own. Weeding them out will take time and time is all they need to make the lives of a few a living hell.
What if Conway's right and the overwhelming majority of Marines oppose this?
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albusteve Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:01:45am |
re: #328 MandyManners
A crisis?
the feds will take over the food business sooner or later....they have already intruded into the CA agribusiness with their water controls
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albusteve Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:02:11am |
re: #332 Walter L. Newton
Steve... I'm going out for a few hours. If you really meant you were going to call, best time to get me would be tomorrow, anytime, all day, will be home all day getting some things ready for passover.
got it
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Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:02:24am |
re: #325 soap_man
I'm not a vegan, but I admire a friend of mine who is raising her child vegan. The kid is about 2—so who knows if he will keep it up when he starts going to school and can buy food on his own—but she is a damn fine cook and is starting him off on a healthy path.
I'm not a fan of the vegan/vegetarian thing just because I've seen so many people do it wrong. It can be done right and sounds like your friend is being smart about it.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:02:44am |
re: #334 albusteve
the feds are corrupt...as for me, they have no moral ground to tell me what to do...what's up with that slimeball Rangle, Pelosis ninny?...I hate the feds
In 2008 alone, 447 House employees and 231 Senate workers didn’t pay their taxes, according to figures from the IRS, Office of Personnel Management, and Department of Defense. Federal employees in the U.S. House of Representatives owed more than $5.8 million in unpaid taxes in 2008. The Senate employees owe more than $2.46 million, according to figures.
Read more: [Link: www.politico.com...]
*Bleeped* fuckers. One of hte requirements of employment there should be timely payment of taxes. Fucking leeches.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:03:23am |
re: #339 albusteve
the feds will take over the food business sooner or later...they have already intruded into the CA agribusiness with their water controls
That's tyranny. It won't happen.
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Aceofwhat? Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:03:48am |
re: #322 Killgore Trout
Yeah, a lot of people are pissed off about the changes. Our relationship with food has been changing over the past few generations and many kids today won't eat unprocessed food. Without the chemicals it just doesn't taste right for them. Fewer people know how to cook for themselves these days and really on prepackaged food which makes them obese and gives the diabetes. It's really pretty sad and it is a national crisis.
that kind of overgeneralization is not an excuse for a poorly-implemented, poorly-executed, ham-fisted, expensive mandate.
i'm not saying you endorse such a thing. i'm only saying that being opposed to such a thing is not "random opposition to a good idea just because the supporter is X", which you implied above.
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Jetpilot1101 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:03:57am |
re: #338 MandyManners
What if Conway's right and the overwhelming majority of Marines oppose this?
Then unless those folks can mature and learn to deal with the new regulations, the Marine Corps will have a serious problem. There is only one way to find out and it looks like the President is going to give us that oppurtunity.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:05:08am |
re: #345 Jetpilot1101
Then unless those folks can mature and learn to deal with the new regulations, the Marine Corps will have a serious problem. There is only one way to find out and it looks like the President is going to give us that oppurtunity.
That worries the hell out of me.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:05:50am |
Why did Harding step out? A former head of the DIA surely has the right stuff to head TSA.
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albusteve Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:06:02am |
re: #343 MandyManners
That's tyranny. It won't happen.
whoever controls the water, controls the food....study up on the Rio Grande valley...of course the leftbangers will pretend it's not true
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Taqyia2Me Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:06:46am |
re: #342 MandyManners
*Bleeped* fuckers. One of hte requirements of employment there should be timely payment of taxes. Fucking leeches.
It is here in Illinois for state gov't workers. Should DEFINITELY be the same for the feds.
I wonder what the democrat to Republican voting comparisons are for these scofflaws????
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albusteve Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:08:02am |
re: #349 Taqyia2Me
It is here in Illinois for state gov't workers. Should DEFINITELY be the same for the feds.
I wonder what the democrat to Republican voting comparisons are for these scofflaws???
the donks that pulled the bill say it's a personal problem....hahaha!....total disconnect
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Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:08:32am |
re: #347 MandyManners
Why did Harding step out? A former head of the DIA surely has the right stuff to head TSA.
Not sure. The last TSA nominee bailed too. I guess people just aren't willing to go through the nomination process. It gets too ugly. I think Obama is going to have to start doing recess appointments.
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jaunte Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:08:38am |
Watch for sharks:
Lawyers Play Speed-Date in Toyota Suit Tussle
At stake are huge fees that only a few lawyers will collect in the suits against Toyota, which were filed after the Japanese company recalled more than eight million vehicles world-wide for reports of sudden acceleration. Lawyers based where the lawsuits are heard will have a good shot at taking the lead position in the cases.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:08:46am |
Raja Lahrasib Khan, 56, a Pakistani native who lives in Chicago's Uptown neighborhood, sent a money transfer of about $950 to a contact in Pakistan last November and directed that $300 go to the leader of a Sunni extremist group with ties to al-Qaida, authorities charged.
Then on Tuesday, Khan's son was stopped at O'Hare International Airport before he could board a flight to England. Authorities said he had $700 in cash on him that had been given to his father by an undercover federal agent. Khan planned to meet up with his son in England and then take the $700 himself to Ilyas Kashmiri, the Pakistani terrorist leader with ties to al-Qaida, authorities said. Khan had told the undercover agent the money would be used to buy weapons and possibly other supplies, according to the charges.
Kashmiri was indicted in Chicago earlier this year in a plot to kill a Danish newspaper cartoonist over unflattering drawings of the Prophet Muhammad. Kashmiri remains a fugitive.
SNIP
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darthstar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:09:07am |
re: #315 MandyManners
Petey's a hamster.
Well, that completely shatters my image of your parenting skills.
////
(when you said Petey was out of his cage, I assumed you meant your kid had wondered outside or something)
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:09:09am |
re: #348 albusteve
whoever controls the water, controls the food...study up on the Rio Grande valley...of course the leftbangers will pretend it's not true
Take it back.
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Soap_Man Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:09:36am |
re: #341 Killgore Trout
I'm not a fan of the vegan/vegetarian thing just because I've seen so many people do it wrong. It can be done right and sounds like your friend is being smart about it.
She's a smart woman. She did all the research to ensure her kid is getting all the nutritional value she needs. (Which can be difficult with a vegan diet, especially with protein)
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:09:43am |
re: #349 Taqyia2Me
It is here in Illinois for state gov't workers. Should DEFINITELY be the same for the feds.
I wonder what the democrat to Republican voting comparisons are for these scofflaws???
I would reckon they vote for the party that employs them.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:10:02am |
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:10:07am |
re: #352 Killgore Trout
Not sure. The last TSA nominee bailed too. I guess people just aren't willing to go through the nomination process. It gets too ugly. I think Obama is going to have to start doing recess appointments.
That worries me.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:11:10am |
re: #355 darthstar
Well, that completely shatters my image of your parenting skills.
///(when you said Petey was out of his cage, I assumed you meant your kid had wondered outside or something)
HAHAHA! The last time I "caged" The Kid was when he was an infant and put him into his play-pen.
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Ericus58 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:11:44am |
Oh what a day ahead!
Greetings and Good Morning all.
So, as of last night I knew that there would be 4 family members joining us for the weekend later today... then the number grew by 1 of the wife's gal pals..... then jumped by 5 (including 2 toddlers)....
Big Problems here.... not enough Wii controllers and batteries... gotta make another beer run to stock up....not enough food made ahead of time, so the wifey is out shopping...
oh the humanity of it all ;)
Actually, we are heading into a very nice day here East of Seattle weather wise - and I love them all dearly. Fun times are headin' ma way!!
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Taqyia2Me Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:12:19am |
re: #358 MandyManners
I would reckon they vote for the party that employs them.
Anybody seen any currency in circulation yet with Timothy Geithner signature as Secretary of the Treasury? I wonder what people will write on them once they hit circulation??
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Ericus58 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:13:28am |
re: #355 darthstar
Well, that completely shatters my image of your parenting skills.
///(when you said Petey was out of his cage, I assumed you meant your kid had wondered outside or something)
We only worry around here when the rascal gets up on the roof ;)
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Aceofwhat? Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:13:40am |
re: #352 Killgore Trout
Not sure. The last TSA nominee bailed too. I guess people just aren't willing to go through the nomination process. It gets too ugly. I think Obama is going to have to start doing recess appointments.
I don't have a ton of sympathy for him on this front.
For example, not nominating financial 'experts' who can't do their taxes correctly would have solved some earlier issues, IIRC...
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jaunte Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:14:18am |
re: #359 Killgore Trout
Do those totals include R&D spending? I think the U.S. spends more than any other country on pharmaceutical research.
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albusteve Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:15:08am |
re: #352 Killgore Trout
Not sure. The last TSA nominee bailed too. I guess people just aren't willing to go through the nomination process. It gets too ugly. I think Obama is going to have to start doing recess appointments.
from the article....
Questions arose after his nomination about a contract his company had with the government to provide interrogators in Iraq. After the government ended the contract early, in 2004, Harding Security Associates claimed more money from termination of the contract than the Defense Department's inspector general said it was entitled to get. The firm refunded $1.8 million of that money in a 2008 settlement with the Defense Intelligence Agency.
seems he tried to stiff the feds....haha!...who would do such a thing, and if so, why was he put up for nomination?...is BO vetting these guys?
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:15:17am |
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SteveC Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:15:59am |
Just got off the phone with a friend, his heart started doing a Fred Astaire tap dance routine last week and landed him in the hospital. Long story short, he's Ok - doctor told him that so much caffeine wasn't a good thing for him and that he should learn how to say "Dee-Caf!"
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:16:29am |
re: #363 Taqyia2Me
Anybody seen any currency in circulation yet with Timothy Geithner signature as Secretary of the Treasury? I wonder what people will write on them once they hit circulation??
"Cheater"?
"Turbo-Tax Loooser"?
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:17:18am |
re: #364 Ericus58
We only worry around here when the rascal gets up on the roof ;)
He's not done that in a while. With a four-storey house, that's very scarey.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:17:57am |
re: #365 Aceofwhat?
I don't have a ton of sympathy for him on this front.
For example, not nominating financial 'experts' who can't do their taxes correctly would have solved some earlier issues, IIRC...
Harding's not of that quality. From what I've read and heard about him, he's top-drawer.
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albusteve Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:18:28am |
re: #371 MandyManners
"Cheater"?
"Turbo-Tax Loooser"?
learned the ropes from Charlie Slimeball Rangle
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Aceofwhat? Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:18:56am |
re: #373 MandyManners
Harding's not of that quality. From what I've read and heard about him, he's top-drawer.
I wouldn't know. I only meant that some of our president's nomination...uhhh..."difficulties"...aren't wholly partisan in nature, IMHO.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:19:18am |
re: #374 albusteve
learned the ropes from Charlie Slimeball Rangle
I thought Geithner was from the NY Fed. What's that got to do with Rangle?
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Aceofwhat? Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:19:28am |
re: #374 albusteve
learned the ropes from Charlie Slimeball Rangle
and the "Friends of Angelo" club...
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Ericus58 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:19:34am |
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:20:09am |
re: #376 Aceofwhat?
I wouldn't know. I only meant that some of our president's nomination...uhhh..."difficulties"...aren't wholly partisan in nature, IMHO.
No. No. No. It's all the GOP's fault.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:20:32am |
re: #379 Ericus58
Oh good gravy... why would you put that plaintive wailing into my head Mandy?!
"Ahhh ahhh Ahhh ahhh"
*rolls head across the keyboard*
Fire one up, dude. And, don't bogart.
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albusteve Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:20:39am |
re: #377 MandyManners
I thought Geithner was from the NY Fed. What's that got to do with Rangle?
it's a conspiracy!
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:21:09am |
re: #359 Killgore Trout
The only thing those graphs show is the US is wealthier than the others. I know this is hard to understand for some but wealthier areas pay higher rates than poorer areas.
I know, I know, we're going to add 30 million people to the insurance rolls but our costs are going to go down. Someone did the math and I'm sure it works out correctly, government spending programs always do.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:21:48am |
The blossoms on my pear tree seem to reach right through my window and tickle my cheek.
*twirrrlll*
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RogueOne Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:21:57am |
I'm officially out of my bottle of nyquil and I can no longer feel my nose so I'm taking that as an omen to go lay down for a bit. Enjoy the sunny day.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:22:33am |
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:22:54am |
re: #385 RogueOne
I'm officially out of my bottle of nyquil and I can no longer feel my nose so I'm taking that as an omen to go lay down for a bit. Enjoy the sunny day.
I hope the room stops spinning soon!
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Ericus58 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:23:24am |
Time to make some preparations.
A great day to all.
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Aceofwhat? Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:25:06am |
re: #379 Ericus58
Oh good gravy... why would you put that plaintive wailing into my head Mandy?!
"Ahhh ahhh Ahhh ahhh"
*rolls head across the keyboard*
here...this one is smoother....
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SteveC Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:27:08am |
re: #385 RogueOne
I'm officially out of my bottle of nyquil and I can no longer feel my nose so I'm taking that as an omen to go lay down for a bit. Enjoy the sunny day.
Can you still see colors? If not, that will pass in a few hours.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:28:57am |
re: #366 jaunte
Do those totals include R&D spending? I think the U.S. spends more than any other country on pharmaceutical research.
No, It looks like it only includes personal spending.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:29:30am |
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jaunte Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:32:18am |
re: #391 Killgore Trout
I wonder why the US outpatient expenditures are so much higher.
This piece has some numbers on healthcare profit margins, and it looks like the big profits are in biotech, drugs, and equipment.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:32:25am |
Ooops.
The two Indiana men — pilot Arthur Potter, 67, and passenger Frank Granato Jr., 55 — were on board a small plane that crashed in rural Union County on March 5. The red single-engine 2007 Evektor-Aerotechnik SportStar Plus was found in a wooded area about 75 miles northeast of Dayton after the plane failed to make a scheduled refueling stop at the Union County Airport.
The body of Granato, formerly from New Castle, Pa., was sent to Potter's family in Greenwood, Ind., and cremated. Potter's body was sent to New Castle for burial by Granato's family, said Ken Betz, director of the Montgomery County coroner's office in Dayton.
SNIP
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jaunte Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:32:35am |
re: #393 jaunte
Link:[Link: www.healthbeatblog.com...]
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Aceofwhat? Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:35:22am |
re: #392 MandyManners
[Video]
equal mellow, but with excellent punctuation (and i can play this one, which makes it extra special)
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Obdicut Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:35:50am |
re: #365 Aceofwhat?
The vast majority of people are perfectly well-qualified, and it's really weird to me that people castigate people for problems and mistakes on their taxes. Taxes aren't particularly easy, and unless it's an egregious attempt at getting away with something -- which would be pretty damn stupid, since this is exactly the kind of thing that political opponents go after-- I give people the benefit of the doubt.
And judging any appointee based on the quality of other appointees makes very, very little sense. The number of holds has been ridiculous.
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Aceofwhat? Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:37:05am |
re: #393 jaunte
I wonder why the US outpatient expenditures are so much higher.
This piece has some numbers on healthcare profit margins, and it looks like the big profits are in biotech, drugs, and equipment.
there are plenty of reasons related to our system - don't get me wrong - there is a lot that we could do better. but don't start ranking things like cancer survival rates from country to country. specific measurements like that have a nagging way of putting us at the top...
the trick is to lower spending without wrecking the outcomes. beating cancer isn't cheap.
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Aceofwhat? Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:37:53am |
re: #397 Obdicut
The vast majority of people are perfectly well-qualified, and it's really weird to me that people castigate people for problems and mistakes on their taxes. Taxes aren't particularly easy, and unless it's an egregious attempt at getting away with something -- which would be pretty damn stupid, since this is exactly the kind of thing that political opponents go after-- I give people the benefit of the doubt.
And judging any appointee based on the quality of other appointees makes very, very little sense. The number of holds has been ridiculous.
It's weird to you that the Treasury Secretary was castigated for problems and mistakes on his taxes?
I must have a different definition for "weird" floating around in my head...
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Aceofwhat? Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:38:37am |
re: #397 Obdicut
The vast majority of people are perfectly well-qualified, and it's really weird to me that people castigate people for problems and mistakes on their taxes. Taxes aren't particularly easy, and unless it's an egregious attempt at getting away with something -- which would be pretty damn stupid, since this is exactly the kind of thing that political opponents go after-- I give people the benefit of the doubt.
And judging any appointee based on the quality of other appointees makes very, very little sense. The number of holds has been ridiculous.
And it says something about our tax code, too...
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Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:39:31am |
re: #395 jaunte
Link:[Link: www.healthbeatblog.com...]
Yeah, I've seen that one before. I suspect it might be a little bit biased. The problem is shared by the insurance and pharmaceutical companies. Some of the components of the reform bill deal with not only profit margins of the insurance companies but also administrative costs and executive compensation. I suspect that's where a lot of the problem is. Despite the profit margin of the company a lot of the money is siphoned off towards excessive salaries and wasteful administrative practices.
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pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:40:29am |
re: #400 Aceofwhat?
The frakkin' tax code is a mess. But if we scrap it and go to a flat tax, millions of tax attorneys, tax lobbyists, loophole finders, etc...will have to find honest work.
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right_wing2 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:42:05am |
re: #400 Aceofwhat?
Let's go to a 'flat tax' or a national sales tax. That'd take too much power away from Uncle Sam to perform social engineering though.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:42:05am |
This is the kind of thing that leads me to believe the healthcare bill ain't all bad....
Republicans Were For Obama's Health Insurance Rule Before They Were Against It
At the time, Romney defended it as "a personal responsibility principle" and Massachusetts' newest GOP senator, Scott Brown, backed it. Romney now says Obama's plan is a federal takeover that bears little resemblance to what he did as governor and should be repealed.
...
Conservatives today say that's unacceptable. Not long ago, many of them saw a national mandate as a free-market route to guarantee coverage for all Americans – the answer to liberal ambitions for a government-run entitlement like Medicare. Most experts agree some kind of requirement is needed in a reformed system because health insurance doesn't work if people can put off joining the risk pool until they get sick.In the early 1970s, President Richard Nixon favored a mandate that employers provide insurance. In the 1990s, the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank, embraced an individual requirement. Not anymore.
"The idea of an individual mandate as an alternative to single-payer was a Republican idea," said health economist Mark Pauly of the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School. In 1991, he published a paper that explained how a mandate could be combined with tax credits – two ideas that are now part of Obama's law. Pauly's paper was well-received – by the George H.W. Bush administration.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:47:35am |
Fuck you, Sean Penn.
The back-to-back arrests this week of two government opponents - including the owner of Venezuela's only remaining anti-Chavez TV channel - have drawn accusations that Chavez is growing increasingly intolerant and authoritarian as his popular support has slipped.
Opposition leaders and human rights groups condemned Thursday's arrest of Globovision's owner Guillermo Zuloaga, who was detained at an airport and released hours later after a judge issued an order barring him from leaving the country.
Zuloaga is accused of spreading false information and insulting the president at an Inter American Press Association meeting in Aruba last weekend, Attorney General Luisa Ortega said.
SNIP
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:49:02am |
re: #402 pingjockey
The frakkin' tax code is a mess. But if we scrap it and go to a flat tax, millions of tax attorneys, tax lobbyists, loophole finders, etc...will have to find honest work.
A joke about hookers is floating around but I ain't gonna' make it.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:49:34am |
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Jetpilot1101 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:51:01am |
re: #406 pingjockey
Sean Penn is an idiot.
Sir or Ma'am,
Your statement is an insult to idiots.
That is all.
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pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:51:12am |
re: #408 MandyManners
He could try. Even after chemo/radiation/surgery I could take him out! Why does the left feel such warmth toward socialist/communist dictators?
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pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:51:44am |
re: #409 Jetpilot1101
I apologize to all idiots out there.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:52:06am |
Two federal appeals courts in recent months have allowed sexual abuse lawsuits against the Vatican to proceed in Oregon and Kentucky. Vatican attorneys have asked the Supreme Court to hear an appeal of the Oregon case. Attorneys for both sides in the Oregon proceeding were in Washington two weeks ago making their arguments before a roomful of U.S. government officials, who could wind up weighing in if the Vatican -- considered a foreign country with immunity to lawsuits -- is found a liable party in an American case.
If the Supreme Court declines to take up the case this summer and lets the federal appeals ruling stand, attorneys could begin subpoenaing decades of documents and calling Vatican officials under oath.
SNIP
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:52:29am |
re: #410 pingjockey
He could try. Even after chemo/radiation/surgery I could take him out! Why does the left feel such warmth toward socialist/communist dictators?
Birds of a feather!
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Aceofwhat? Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:54:51am |
re: #402 pingjockey
The frakkin' tax code is a mess. But if we scrap it and go to a flat tax, millions of tax attorneys, tax lobbyists, loophole finders, etc...will have to find honest work.
so true...we don't want the unemployment numbers going higher right now...
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pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:55:06am |
re: #412 MandyManners
That whole mess just keeps getting deeper and deeper.
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Aceofwhat? Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:56:31am |
re: #410 pingjockey
He could try. Even after chemo/radiation/surgery I could take him out! Why does the left feel such warmth toward socialist/communist dictators?
why does the right feel such warmth towards ___?
our relative extremes all have their favorite brands of crazy...
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Mark Pennington Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:56:39am |
re: #347 MandyManners
Why did Harding step out? A former head of the DIA surely has the right stuff to head TSA.
Maybe he talked it over with his family and they decided not to go through what everyone else has. I'm sure he knows he'll have to crawl through hell for who knows how long to be confirmed. Maybe he fears being on an episode of Beck with his words taken out of context or maybe he isn't up for having his image being photoshopped on Malkin's site with blood dripping off of him or if he's ever said something remotely civil rightsy... photoshopping him wearing African garb or something. They could not pay me enough to go through that shit in this current atmosphere since I am not a perfect person either.
Good grief, I'm getting a cold, I'm out of coffee and I'm grumpy. :(
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:57:01am |
As the night follows the day, VAT follows health-care reform.
With the passage of Obamacare, creating a vast new middle-class entitlement, a national sales tax of the kind near-universal in Europe is inevitable.
We are now $8 trillion in debt. The Congressional Budget Office projects that $12 trillion will be added over the next decade. Obamacare, when stripped of its budgetary gimmicks -- the unfunded $200 billion-plus "doctor fix," the double counting of Medicare cuts, the 10-6 sleight-of-hand (counting 10 years of revenue and only six years of outflows) -- is at minimum a $2 trillion new entitlement.
SNIP
Obama knows that the debt bomb is looming, that Moody's is warning that the Treasury's AAA rating is in jeopardy, that we are headed for a run on the dollar and/or hyperinflation if nothing is done.
Hence his deficit-reduction commission. It will report (surprise!) after the November elections.
What will it recommend? What can it recommend? Sure, Social Security can be trimmed by raising the retirement age, introducing means testing and changing the indexing formula from wage growth to price inflation.
But this won't be nearly enough. As Obama has repeatedly insisted, the real money is in health-care costs -- which are locked in place by the new Obamacare mandates.
That's where the value-added tax comes in. For the politician, it has the virtue of expediency: People are used to sales taxes, and this one produces a river of revenue. Every 1 percent of VAT would yield up to $1 trillion a decade (depending on what you exclude -- if you exempt food, for example, the yield would be more like $900 billion).
SNIP
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:57:55am |
re: #415 pingjockey
That whole mess just keeps getting deeper and deeper.
I wonder what's been happening in Third World nations that don't have our kind of legal system.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:58:45am |
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Lidane Sat, Mar 27, 2010 9:58:46am |
re: #410 pingjockey
Why do some on the left feel such warmth toward socialist/communist dictators?
FTFY. Not all of us are like that. Just because Sean Penn is a colossal tool who kisses up to dictators like Chávez doesn't mean that the rest of us automatically agree with him.
For the record, I can't stand either of them. Both Sean Penn and Hugo Chávez can get bent.
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right_wing2 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:00:03am |
re: #412 MandyManners
Disgusting, isn't it? There's no excuse for kids to be abused by ANYONE.
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Aceofwhat? Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:00:44am |
guilty admission: when i want tv noise in the background, i often choose Twilight because i like the music and the lighting is nice and somber.
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Mark Pennington Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:01:36am |
re: #420 MandyManners
(((beekiller)))
Take some Vitamin C.
My wife said the same thing when she called from work! lol
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Jetpilot1101 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:01:43am |
I'm personally a fan of the APT Tax. I think this is the best solution but will never make it through Congress because they won't be able to pay off their buddies with exemptions under a this proposal.
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Aceofwhat? Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:01:51am |
re: #417 beekiller
don't listen to Mandy. Take zinc, early and often. vitamin C will prevent scurvy, which you don't appear to be in danger of courting...
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Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:02:28am |
Fox news live feed of the Tea Party event in Nevada
Koskidz coverage: The Teabagger Clown Show in the Desert
.....includes this illiterate and extremist sign
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pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:03:29am |
re: #416 Aceofwhat?
I personally feel no warmth toward fascists/nazis etc... I should have phrased it better...Why do lefty celebrities and some congress critters feel such solicitude for soc/com dictators. I don't see Gary Sinise coming out in support of Right wing dictators anywhere. I do see Sean Penn and Hollyweird libs saying Hugo and Castro are fine folks.
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Mark Pennington Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:05:10am |
re: #426 Aceofwhat?
don't listen to Mandy. Take zinc, early and often. vitamin C will prevent scurvy, which you don't appear to be in danger of courting...
How about I listen to you both. ;) I just remembered that I have some Zicam in my car.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:05:46am |
re: #422 right_wing2
Disgusting, isn't it? There's no excuse for kids to be abused by ANYONE.
Hell to pay.
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pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:06:05am |
re: #421 Lidane
Yup. That's why I said some. It just seems Penn and his ilk get a ton of press for supporting a thug. See my 429. I hope the phraseology worked better.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:06:28am |
re: #423 Aceofwhat?
guilty admission: when i want tv noise in the background, i often choose Twilight because i like the music and the lighting is nice and somber.
I like the local weather channel. Nothing but bouncy music!
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:06:47am |
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:07:53am |
re: #426 Aceofwhat?
don't listen to Mandy. Take zinc, early and often. vitamin C will prevent scurvy, which you don't appear to be in danger of courting...
ttthhhpppttt
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Jetpilot1101 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:09:02am |
re: #427 Killgore Trout
Let them gather, it's their right and they'll be plenty of cops to keep the peace. Harry Reid seems confident he'll prevail in November so this shouldn't hurt.
As for the Koz Kiddies; whatever. Some of them were just as bad as the Tea Partiers during the Bush years so I don't trust either side.
Extremism in any form is bad and applies to both left and right.
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Four More Tears Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:09:24am |
re: #427 Killgore Trout
Koskidz coverage: The Teabagger Clown Show in the Desert
That makes me picture Burning Man with Colonial costumes.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:09:27am |
I'm one of those lucky cusses. One benedril pill (little bitty pink one) shuts my allergies down for 24 hours.
Really responsive to medications.
Wonder if has anything to do with lifestyle...
(ahem)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:10:24am |
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pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:11:19am |
re: #427 Killgore Trout
Got into an argument with my dad over the Tea Party folks. I said whoever is running that mess needs to sit down and have a Listen Here You Idiots meeting. There are legitimate protestors being outshouted, drowned out, etc. By extremeists that have no business in this protest. Yah I know a pipe dream to get the crazy out but I can wish. Dad is 75 and doing the census and I think the number of multigenerational welfare families he's seen has really upset him.
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Lidane Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:12:26am |
re: #432 pingjockey
Yup. That's why I said some. It just seems Penn and his ilk get a ton of press for supporting a thug. See my 429. I hope the phraseology worked better.
The phraseology is fine. I just wanted to insult both Penn and Chávez. ;)
I think of it as the Sheehan syndrome, myself. Some people just paint themselves into such a rhetorical corner that they feel the need to side with anyone who would agree with them to prove they're right, even if that person is a dictator.
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Jetpilot1101 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:14:28am |
re: #442 Lidane
Speaking of Sheehan, where is that old bird? The wars haven't ended so why have her protests stopped? Shouldn't she be camped in some ditch in Chicago by now begging for an audience with President Obama? What gives?
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right_wing2 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:15:40am |
re: #443 Jetpilot1101
I think she was just arrested a few days ago for her antics against Obama. As much as I think she's a fool, at least she's not limiting herself to doing it just against Bush.
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pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:18:25am |
re: #442 Lidane
I'll agree with that! Insulting some folks is good for the cardio system!
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Jetpilot1101 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:19:05am |
re: #444 right_wing2
I think she was just arrested a few days ago for her antics against Obama. As much as I think she's a fool, at least she's not limiting herself to doing it just against Bush.
Hey I agree with you and if she is still protesting, then at least she has my respect for continuing her campaign regardless of who was is in office. Shows she is not the partisan hack a lot of people took her for. Shame on the MSM for refusing to cover her like they did during the Bush years. I guess she served her purpose and they can kick her to the curb.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:19:15am |
re: #443 Jetpilot1101
Speaking of Sheehan, where is that old bird? The wars haven't ended so why have her protests stopped? Shouldn't she be camped in some ditch in Chicago by now begging for an audience with President Obama? What gives?
You might want to look here, among a buncha' Jew-hating basards.
| 448 |
pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:19:24am |
Damn, the sun is out and it's still bloody cold out. Want to do a little yard work.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:19:48am |
re: #441 pingjockey
Multi-generation welfare families are very sad to see.
In my job (just left one about 20 minutes ago) I see plenty.
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Velvet Elvis Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:20:14am |
re: #443 Jetpilot1101
Speaking of Sheehan, where is that old bird? The wars haven't ended so why have her protests stopped? Shouldn't she be camped in some ditch in Chicago by now begging for an audience with President Obama? What gives?
I think she was last spotted in Venezuela trying to get Chavez to invade the US and stop the war
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Lidane Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:21:39am |
re: #443 Jetpilot1101
Speaking of Sheehan, where is that old bird? The wars haven't ended so why have her protests stopped? Shouldn't she be camped in some ditch in Chicago by now begging for an audience with President Obama? What gives?
Google News tells me that she was in DC recently camped out on the National Mall and going after Obama and the Democrats now.
She can camp out in DC for the next ten years for all I care. I sympathized with her at first, but by the time she was kissing up to Chávez, I was over her and the rest of the anti-war movement.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:21:40am |
re: #450 Conservative Moonbat
I think she was last spotted in Venezuela trying to get Chavez to invade the US and stop the war
Now there's something to wish for.
It's called the "Wish form of diplomacy"...
"I just fuckin' wish they'd look like they wanted to attack us."
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pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:22:44am |
re: #449 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'll never forget, this has been years ago. I was home on leave and my mom came home from the local HS and was in tears. Seems she overheard two boys and their plans for after high school. Go to work for 6 mos. go on unemployment, get their girlfriends pregnant and on welfare then they could go hunting and fishing all the time like their dads! Yup, the nanny state is a wonderful thing.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:22:59am |
Looking at the Tea Party crowd makes me wonder. Looks like they have maybe 1,000 people or so. About the same size crowd that showed up to the last one in DC. I wonder how they got all those people out in the middle of nowhere. They probably bused them in from somewhere.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:24:02am |
re: #441 pingjockey
Yeah, the whole tea party thing is really counterproductive and there's no way to clean it up.
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Velvet Elvis Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:24:39am |
re: #454 Killgore Trout
Looking at the Tea Party crowd makes me wonder. Looks like they have maybe 1,000 people or so. About the same size crowd that showed up to the last one in DC. I wonder how they got all those people out in the middle of nowhere. They probably bused them in from somewhere.
I just clearly heard the guy on fox say "at least 10,000."
It's going to be just like Burning Man, only without the drugs and nekkid people.
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pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:25:31am |
re: #454 Killgore Trout
Well crap. Now I have to go look at your links. :) We had a tea party(?) thing out here in eastern WA. No kooks, lotsa farmers, loggers, etc. concerned about taxes. Not one foolish, idiotic sign to be seen. Thank God for small favors.
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pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:28:58am |
Got FNC on, who'd a thunk it, Syria is the soap opera capitol of the arab world.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:29:20am |
re: #450 Conservative Moonbat
I think she was last spotted in Venezuela trying to get Chavez to invade the US and stop the war
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Jetpilot1101 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:29:34am |
re: #456 Conservative Moonbat
I just clearly heard the guy on fox say "at least 10,000."
It's going to be just like Burning Man, only without the drugs and nekkid people.
10,000 or 10,000,000 doesn't really matter right now. What matters is who shows up in November. The number people who can't make it to these protests but sympathize with the TP and may vote against the Democrats in the fall will either be the rise or the fall of the movement. As for me, I'm voting against every incumbent, R or D. All I really want is fresh blood in DC so if you currently hold public office, you lost my vote.
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jaunte Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:31:11am |
Rafi Mohammed: Why High Profit Margins Don't Prove Smart Pricing
Since we'll be needing more tax revenue soon, I hope a lot of people read his book and apply it to the pricing of government.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:31:31am |
I'm watching Animal Cops on Animal Planet. Some folks need a thorough ass-kicking.
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Lidane Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:31:35am |
re: #427 Killgore Trout
Koskidz coverage: The Teabagger Clown Show in the Desert
If those photos are from today, then the guy who is carrying the "We came unarmed [this time]" sign is a professional activist, since he was also photographed in Washington D.C. here:
Image: 912-TeaParty-DC-We-came-unarmed-this-time.jpg
Unless those are older photos meant to make a point.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:31:54am |
re: #461 Jetpilot1101
"My guy's not so bad" is the main problem.
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pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:31:55am |
re: #461 Jetpilot1101
Former NFL star Clint Didier is running against Patty Murray here in WA state.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:32:02am |
re: #463 MandyManners
I'm watching Animal Cops on Animal Planet. Some folks need a thorough ass-kicking.
I can't watch that show. Makes me too angry.
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right_wing2 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:33:12am |
re: #463 MandyManners
I actually can't watch that show, or 'Rescue Ink' or anything like that. It pisses me off too much. My wife & I have a houseful of spoiled cats, plus feed some neighborhood strays.
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pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:33:25am |
re: #463 MandyManners
Me and the better half both figure we couldn't be animal cops because some of the assholes on that show, we'd go all medieval on their asses.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:33:41am |
re: #464 Lidane
I think the pic of him in the Dkos diary is from a different rally. That tree in the background definitely isn't growing in Nevada.
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Lidane Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:33:45am |
re: #467 Killgore Trout
I can't watch that show. Makes me too angry.
Yeah, same here. I can't watch it either.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:33:59am |
re: #469 right_wing2
I can't even watch that commercial with Sarah McLaughlin singing in the background.
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right_wing2 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:34:55am |
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pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:36:31am |
If any y'all are in the Wenatchee, WA area, look out! My 16 yr old is off to take his drivers test!
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:37:32am |
re: #256 MandyManners
Sounds like it's time for the General to turn in his retirement papers.
William
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pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:37:50am |
Good Lord, the decapitated head of the Nogales Mexico Police Chief was found in his truck. The drug cartels are out of control.
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Jetpilot1101 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:38:15am |
re: #465 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My rep, Kendrick Meek, is the problem so out he goes.
re: #466 pingjockey
I'd vote for Clint if I could but that would be illegal. Unless of course I follow the advice of Ed Schultz who told me I could vote multiple times to drive the bastards out. He also told me I could rip out Cheney's heart and use it as a political football. Got to love those hosts over at MSNBC, always full of sage advice and tolerance.
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:38:32am |
re: #467 Killgore Trout
I can't watch that show. Makes me too angry.
I cracked up at the cop who wanted to lock the dogs' owner up in the back of his van in 90-degree weather with no food or water.
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pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:39:21am |
re: #478 Jetpilot1101
IMO, Ed Schultz iq = his shoe size.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:40:46am |
re: #474 right_wing2
Children & animals. The ultimate in innocence.
With the exception of the most dangerous animal (other than man).
Contrary to what most people say, the most dangerous animal in the world is not the lion or the tiger or even the elephant. It's a shark riding on an elephant's back, just trampling and eating everything they see.
-Jack Handy
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MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:40:56am |
re: #469 right_wing2
I actually can't watch that show, or 'Rescue Ink' or anything like that. It pisses me off too much. My wife & I have a houseful of spoiled cats, plus feed some neighborhood strays.
When I lived in the mountains when I was a kid, my house was the drop-off point for people who didn't want their dogs. We'd get them to the vet, fatten them up and then give them away. I vetted each person closely and pissed off quite a few who didn't meet my standards.
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Lidane Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:41:03am |
re: #478 Jetpilot1101
Screw Ed Schultz. He irritates me.
Rachel Maddow, on the other hand, is awesome. She actually does her research, and is willing to give people she disagrees with a platform on her show.
| 486 |
MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:41:22am |
re: #470 pingjockey
Me and the better half both figure we couldn't be animal cops because some of the assholes on that show, we'd go all medieval on their asses.
See No. 479.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:41:41am |
re: #477 pingjockey
Good Lord, the decapitated head of the Nogales Mexico Police Chief was found in his truck. The drug cartels
are out ofin control.
For accuracy...
| 488 |
MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:41:49am |
re: #473 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I can't even watch that commercial with Sarah McLaughlin singing in the background.
Oh, I tear up just thinking about it.
| 489 |
MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:42:38am |
re: #476 wlewisiii
Sounds like it's time for the General to turn in his retirement papers.
William
Did you read the article?
| 490 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:42:43am |
re: #488 MandyManners
I'd link it... but... NOPE!
| 492 |
right_wing2 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:43:04am |
re: #483 MandyManners
Good for you!
My wife won't let me volunteer at the animal shelter because she knows I'd end up bring home any kitten or puppy, any cat or dog that they were about to 'put down' because they weren't adopted in time, or because the kitten had come in sick & they can't spend the $ to get him healthy. Thank God the new shelter here is 'low kill' and they're working to make it as 'no kill' as possible.
| 494 |
jaunte Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:43:44am |
re: #477 pingjockey
Good Lord, the decapitated head of the Nogales Mexico Police Chief was found in his truck. The drug cartels are out of control.
[Link: www.kansascity.com...]
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pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:44:53am |
re: #492 right_wing2
We just had a lady here who passed and her estate left over a million dollars to the local humane society. It was very cool. We try to drop off food once a month or so.
| 496 |
MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:45:06am |
re: #492 right_wing2
Good for you!
My wife won't let me volunteer at the animal shelter because she knows I'd end up bring home any kitten or puppy, any cat or dog that they were about to 'put down' because they weren't adopted in time, or because the kitten had come in sick & they can't spend the $ to get him healthy. Thank God the new shelter here is 'low kill' and they're working to make it as 'no kill' as possible.
I don't talk about what I do with my charity budget but, yeah.
| 497 |
MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:45:28am |
re: #495 pingjockey
We just had a lady here who passed and her estate left over a million dollars to the local humane society. It was very cool. We try to drop off food once a month or so.
*smooch*
| 498 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:45:37am |
re: #492 right_wing2
Heh. Google "PETA kills animals"...
| 499 |
MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:46:12am |
IIRC, California's contemplating a register of animal abusers.
| 500 |
right_wing2 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:46:20am |
re: #495 pingjockey
Very awesome!
Of our cats, 2 were the kittens of strays (both strays have been spayed), 2 were strays themselves, and 1 was a humane society boy.
| 502 |
pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:47:39am |
re: #494 jaunte
That's it. I really feel for the cops/army down there. You don't know who's been corrupted by all that money.
Oh shit! Patty Murray just ran an ad about the HCR act, Did you know we all now get the same health care as congress?! BULLSHIT!
| 503 |
William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:49:00am |
re: #338 MandyManners
What if Conway's right and the overwhelming majority of Marines oppose this?
Then perhaps they need to ETS and be replaced with better troopers if they are unable to live with obeying lawful orders.
William
| 504 |
MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:49:03am |
Now the animal cops are out to find a large lizard who's terrorizing a community in Florida.
Anyone seen CCA lately?
| 505 |
pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:49:35am |
re: #500 right_wing2
We lost our golden retiever last year, tumors. So of course no dog lasted about 2 weeks, then the better half and the kids went to the pound and now we have Indiana. Shar Pei and Lab cross.
| 506 |
MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:49:50am |
re: #503 wlewisiii
Then perhaps they need to ETS and be replaced with better troopers if they are unable to live with obeying lawful orders.
William
That would take a while. I hope it wouldn't gut our forces.
| 508 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:51:13am |
| 509 |
right_wing2 Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:51:29am |
re: #505 pingjockey
So sorry to hear about your golden. What wonderful dogs. My wife had one (and a Shepherd/Rottie/Chow) mix before we met.
I lost one of my cats a couple years ago. Had him 18 years.
| 510 |
pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:51:55am |
re: #503 wlewisiii
Remember, we have an all volunteer force and I've seen the troops vote with their feet...Bill Clinton. I didn't leave, I had too much time invested.
| 511 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:52:07am |
re: #507 pingjockey
There's a livestream from fox. The chick speaking now is from a group called "Anger is Brewing".
| 512 |
pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:53:06am |
re: #509 right_wing2
Humans must be gluttons for punishment. A pet becomes a member of the family, then it passes and breaks your heart and we go and do it all over.
| 513 |
MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:53:32am |
State police Trooper Jamie Levier said several witnesses saw 55-year-old Donald Wolfe near the animal along a highway about 105km northeast of Pittsburgh.
SNIP
| 514 |
ryannon Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:53:32am |
re: #196 negativ
Philip Glass & Ravi Shankar - Ragas in Minor Scale
[Video]From "Passages", which is one of the greatest albums ever.
Along with Glass's "Einstein on the Beach" - which is in a class of excellence all by itself.
| 515 |
pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:53:55am |
re: #511 Killgore Trout
My 'puter is nottaking the feed well at all. Herky Jerky, bad audio, etc.
| 516 |
Charles Johnson Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:53:59am |
Fox is pushing the meme that there's no encouragement of violence coming from the right wing. Pushing it hard.
This is an unvarnished lie, and they know it.
| 517 |
jaunte Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:56:54am |
re: #498 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Heh. Google "PETA kills animals"...
...and found this story. It's hard to tell which side of the deal is creepier.
[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]
| 518 |
MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:57:32am |
Mr Furze, 30, displayed his modified his scooter, with an anti-tailgating flame thrower operated by the flick of switch, in the press earlier this week.
But Lincolnshire Police spotted the pictures of Mr Furze allegedly riding his scooter on a public highway – and arrested him on Thursday.
SNIP
Speaking before his arrest, he said: ''Everybody wants a flame thrower on a motor bike.
SNIP
| 519 |
William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:57:39am |
re: #510 pingjockey
Remember, we have an all volunteer force and I've seen the troops vote with their feet...Bill Clinton. I didn't leave, I had too much time invested.
I know. I got out of the Army at 16 years during that draw down. We didn't get a certain number of reups in the late 40's either after Truman integrated the military. The commander gives an order - a troop can either obey or leave.
William
| 520 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:57:45am |
re: #517 jaunte
I thought her fifteen minutes were up...
| 521 |
Lidane Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:59:02am |
re: #502 pingjockey
That's it. I really feel for the cops/army down there. You don't know who's been corrupted by all that money.
What makes it even worse is the wars that are between the cartels, and not just against law enforcement. Los Zetas, for example, started as the armed wing of the Gulf Cartel, but now they're enemies fighting for territory. The whole Mexican drug war is a massive clusterfuck.
| 522 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:59:41am |
Just found out that a friend died last night.
Cancer sucks.
See y'all later.
| 523 |
ryannon Sat, Mar 27, 2010 10:59:45am |
re: #218 Aceofwhat?
you guys are harshing my buzz. Afghan Star is on HBO in the background - first time i've watched this movie. Never wanted to hug a bunch of random tribespeople so much in my life. what a great documentary.
Is that by Christophe de Ponfilly?
If so, you ought to see "Massoud the Afghan"
| 524 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:01:54am |
re: #522 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Sorry to hear that.
| 525 |
pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:02:02am |
re: #519 wlewisiii
Yep. I don't know the legal stuff that has to be changed. They will have to overhaul the UCMJ, sodomy is illegal.
| 526 |
pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:02:59am |
re: #522 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Damn. Thoughts and prayers to you and the family.
| 527 |
Mark Pennington Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:03:00am |
re: #516 Charles
Fox is pushing the meme that there's no encouragement of violence coming from the right wing. Pushing it hard.
This is an unvarnished lie, and they know it.
If you look at Think Progress today, they have a video posted of GOP officials saying some really scary stuff.
| 528 |
Lidane Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:03:22am |
re: #516 Charles
Fox is pushing the meme that there's no encouragement of violence coming from the right wing. Pushing it hard.
This is an unvarnished lie, and they know it.
Yep. And that voice of moral integrity, Newt Gingrich, is demanding that the Democrats apologize and take responsibility for bringing all those death threats and all that anger on themselves:
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
| 529 |
jaunte Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:03:36am |
re: #516 Charles
Palin was also criticized for inciting violence for writing this on Twitter: "Commonsense Conservatives & lovers of America: 'Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!'"
Just some peaceful military and firearms analogies, that's all...
/!/
| 530 |
Lidane Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:03:54am |
| 531 |
Digital Display Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:04:41am |
re: #516 Charles
Fox is pushing the meme that there's no encouragement of violence coming from the right wing. Pushing it hard.
This is an unvarnished lie, and they know it.
Sounds like you are home Charles...Those were some pretty cool comics you posted on last week..I like collecting stuff also..
Hope today finds you well
| 532 |
Mark Pennington Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:04:44am |
re: #488 MandyManners
Oh, I tear up just thinking about it.
I have to turn the channel when that commercial comes on because I don't like to cry. :D
| 534 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:05:53am |
re: #504 MandyManners
Now the animal cops are out to find a large lizard who's terrorizing a community in Florida.
Anyone seen CCA lately?
Hey!!! I went to the store for some grub!!
| 535 |
Mark Pennington Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:06:47am |
Does anyone else have a friend who sends you totally random, insane text messages daily?
YOU SMELL LIKE ANTI-FREEZE!
Your ability to deliver hilarity can only be compared through size or volume to that of your balls which like all badasses, must be ginormous.
WE MUST BAND TOGETHER AGAINST SCIENTOLOGY!
YOU FUCKING WIN AT LIFE DUDE!
You don't talk to me enough and your wife is hotter than you.
| 536 |
keloyd Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:06:48am |
Jamie Oliver is a self righteous attention whore, even if he is right about school lunches. What kind of grown adult man blubbers like that on television? Where's his pride or dignity?
The local news did a thing on healthy school lunches, and they were charging $6 apiece. I can eat healthy at home for two days on $6. That covers a pile of potatoes, beans, rice, peanut butter for sammiches, a half pound of meat, assorted apples, carrots, and the occasional orange.
In 7 cases out of 10, "healthy" means "pretentious and no more good for you." When the busybody activists outlaw the wrong frying oils to help the poor people who eat fast food, where is the legislation requiring Ruth's Kris or Three Forks (or wherever is your local nice steak place) to never serve more than 6 oz of meat per meal? Why does Whole Foods food cost One.Million.Dollars? Why is its parking lot full of fashionable 'green' Lexus SUV's that get 20 mpg while these shoppers' maids drive 30 mpg 1992 Corollas?
Bad as school food is, I don't want the federal government, self righteous 'concerned citizens' and attention whores to solve my problems.
| 537 |
pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:07:27am |
re: #533 MikeySDCA
Even if the Israelis had froze the settlements, it still wouldn't have been enough. Nothing the Israelis do is ever enough for those folks.
| 538 |
Obdicut Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:07:46am |
re: #536 keloyd
James Oliver has done credible, good work and increased the actual nutritional value that kids are getting.
I'm not sure why you think the federal government shouldn't get involved in the federal school lunch program, either.
| 539 |
Mark Pennington Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:07:54am |
re: #522 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Just found out that a friend died last night.
Cancer sucks.
See y'all later.
I'm so sorry to hear that. Take care.
| 540 |
zora Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:10:06am |
re: #536 keloyd
that's because you don't eat school lunches as you have said. there are people who care about healthy options for children at school. oh, and ketchup is not a vegetable.
| 541 |
pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:10:19am |
re: #538 Obdicut
My 4th graders lunch costs 2.05 and the menu is damn good. Maybe because it's a small school district? We have 8 grade schools, 2 middle schools, one Jr. High and one HS. They seem to do a damn fine job.
| 542 |
Lidane Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:10:29am |
re: #535 beekiller
Does anyone else have a friend who sends you totally random, insane text messages daily?
No, but I have friends who send me links to random internet things all damned day. For example, this just hit my inbox:
| 543 |
MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:10:46am |
re: #535 beekiller
Does anyone else have a friend who sends you totally random, insane text messages daily?
YOU SMELL LIKE ANTI-FREEZE!
Your ability to deliver hilarity can only be compared through size or volume to that of your balls which like all badasses, must be ginormous.
WE MUST BAND TOGETHER AGAINST SCIENTOLOGY!
YOU FUCKING WIN AT LIFE DUDE!
You don't talk to me enough and your wife is hotter than you.
Tell him to put down the bong.
| 544 |
pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:11:44am |
re: #542 Lidane
I must not have enough "friends" to send me goofy shit. OTOH my dads sister sends him all kinds of mad stuff. :)
| 545 |
BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:12:29am |
Dunno if this was mentioned the other day-- epic fail from CNN's newest hire:
Let's Punish Bart Stupak By Sending Him Money!
We can’t Bart Stupak go without a parting gift. Judas, after all, got 30 silver coins to sell out our Lord. Stupak needs something for selling out all the children sent off to be slaughtered thanks to his “compromise” that any President can pen away to oblivion — notwithstanding the questionable legal assumptions behind it.
Let’s send him 100 silver coins. It’s only a $4.00 investment on your part.
(Headline perhaps amended for purposes of snark)
| 546 |
keloyd Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:13:29am |
re: #538 Obdicut
I respect the work he's doing, I just really can't stand to watch him on TV. He's worse than that other one with the dirty mouth. School lunches also is one of those things where state and local government can handle it sometimes well, sometimes poorly, but as soon as it's a federal issue, that costs big money and all the pundits smell blood in the water.
The federal lunch program funding is one thing. The feds getting involved in the food itself - that's Carterian micromanagement. The one exception is the surplus food the government has on its hands as a result of their ridiculous system of subsidies and price controls - if they can dump that on schools below cost, and it's healthy, maybe that gets the KELoyd stamp of approval.
| 547 |
MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:13:30am |
re: #537 pingjockey
Even if the Israelis had froze the settlements, it still wouldn't have been enough. Nothing the Israelis do is ever enough for those folks.
Short of suicide.
| 549 |
Mark Pennington Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:14:16am |
re: #543 MandyManners
Tell him to put down the bong.
lol He rarely even drinks. He's just a nut with too much time on his hands.
| 550 |
MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:14:53am |
re: #549 beekiller
lol He rarely even drinks. He's just a nut with too much time on his hands.
Tell him to procreate. That'll take up plenty of time.
| 551 |
MandyManners Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:15:08am |
| 552 |
Digital Display Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:15:39am |
re: #544 pingjockey
I must not have enough "friends" to send me goofy shit. OTOH my dads sister sends him all kinds of mad stuff. :)
I have this 92 year old crazy uncle in North Dakota that sends me stuff every day.. Especially those 'send this to another people for your prayer to be answered'..I can't say anything to him...or get off his Dlist...It will be my luck he lives to a 120..*wink*
| 553 |
Obdicut Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:16:12am |
re: #546 keloyd
The federal lunch program funding is one thing. The feds getting involved in the food itself - that's Carterian micromanagement. T
Oh good grief. So they should pay for it but have no say about what it is.
That's just foolish. There is no reason why broad federal standards can't help. You don't want to stifle variation, but some nutritional basics are, well, basic.
| 554 |
keloyd Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:16:29am |
re: #540 zora
that's because you don't eat school lunches as you have said. there are people who care about healthy options for children at school. oh, and ketchup is not a vegetable.
No, but ketchup=vegetable is an urban myth. I ate crap lunches at school; my parents ate crap lunches at school. A pbj and an apple costs 40 cents.
| 555 |
Digital Display Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:18:00am |
re: #545 iceweasel
I'll email you my Cell number today...
Look forward to chatting with you and Jimmah on a lazy Sunday afternoon...
It's too cold to golf this weekend...Bummed out
| 557 |
Lidane Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:19:20am |
re: #544 pingjockey
I must not have enough "friends" to send me goofy shit. OTOH my dads sister sends him all kinds of mad stuff. :)
I get the goofy shit from my Facebook and LiveJournal friends. Some if it is funny, some isn't, but it all makes the day go by faster. Hehe.
My relatives, on the other hand, grace me with religious chain letters and all sorts of e-mail scares, which forces me to go over to Snopes.com so I can debunk whatever it is and send out corrections.
| 558 |
keloyd Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:20:05am |
re: #553 Obdicut
the federal government should have no role in k-12 education in the first place. That's state and local stuff. It's the feds grabbing power where and when they can, like the little napoleons on everyone's HOA board.
| 559 |
pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:21:29am |
re: #557 Lidane
My better half has a facebook page. Then again she coaches the HS flag/drill team, so all the "girls", my wife included have to get on and chat. I think she likes it. We have 3 boys and she doesn't get to do much girl talk. :)
| 560 |
Digital Display Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:23:37am |
re: #556 pingjockey
Ain't relatives grand!?
LOL Isn't that the truth.. I was adopted when I was 12...During the court date with the Judge asking me if I wanted to be adopted...Yes you sit in a courtroom in front of a judge..Weird if you ask me..
But nobody said anything about crazy uncles and aunts..
*wink*
| 561 |
Lidane Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:25:55am |
re: #559 pingjockey
Facebook has been great for me. I've gotten the chance to catch up with some of my oldest friends from high school, who I haven't seen in almost 20 years. Plus, I have some of my cousins on there and can keep up with family.
I like it. It's a damn sight better than Twitter, which I have but almost never use.
| 562 |
pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:27:30am |
re: #560 HoosierHoops
Heh. When I got married, my wife had two boys, package deal. I adopted them 11 years ago and the judge had been adopted and his little speech to the boys had everybody in tears.
| 564 |
Digital Display Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:28:47am |
re: #562 pingjockey
Heh. When I got married, my wife had two boys, package deal. I adopted them 11 years ago and the judge had been adopted and his little speech to the boys had everybody in tears.
You are a good man ping...
Thanks for that
| 565 |
Lidane Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:29:39am |
re: #563 pingjockey
You're not missing anything, believe me.
| 566 |
pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:30:33am |
re: #564 HoosierHoops
Nah. I'm a mean 'ol bear. :) Of course we had one of our own and it was another boy! My poor mom, not one granddaughter.
| 568 |
Obdicut Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:31:30am |
re: #558 keloyd
the federal government should have no role in k-12 education in the first place. That's state and local stuff. It's the feds grabbing power where and when they can, like the little napoleons on everyone's HOA board.
Um, the HOA are an incredibly local power-grab, so when talking about overweening federal power, they actually work against your point.
| 569 |
bratwurst Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:32:32am |
re: #536 keloyd
In 7 cases out of 10, "healthy" means "pretentious and no more good for you."
I am sure that statistic is very scientific. Not.
Childhood (and adult) obesity is really bad and leading to an epidemic of diabetes. Shoot the messengers if you like, but this is a major public health issue.
| 570 |
Digital Display Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:40:53am |
re: #566 pingjockey
Nah. I'm a mean 'ol bear. :) Of course we had one of our own and it was another boy! My poor mom, not one granddaughter.
LOL
I said you were a good man...Not mean 'ol bear..
We raised 3 boys.. Many times I send them crying to mama into the house from playing Basketball...
Jordan became a Marine in the 3/5 and if you were in Fallujah during that deployment and fucked with the Marines..There was 100% chance you were going to die....
I sent of pic to Sharm once of Jordan standing in the Garage next to the boxing bag with his shirt off...
I got me some tough boys that show no mercy to pops on the court...I never drive the lane nor block them..They show no mercy.. I still am a better shooter than them..
| 571 |
pingjockey Sat, Mar 27, 2010 11:43:17am |
re: #570 HoosierHoops
I can't keep up with the 16 yr old any more! On a good day I'm 5'8" he's now 6'3"!
| 572 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:11:03pm |
| 573 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:16:52pm |
re: #443 Jetpilot1101
Speaking of Sheehan, where is that old bird? The wars haven't ended so why have her protests stopped? Shouldn't she be camped in some ditch in Chicago by now begging for an audience with President Obama? What gives?
Google her. She was out in front of the White House last weekend.
| 574 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:21:30pm |
re: #541 pingjockey
My 4th graders lunch costs 2.05 and the menu is damn good. Maybe because it's a small school district? We have 8 grade schools, 2 middle schools, one Jr. High and one HS. They seem to do a damn fine job.
Some districts are great. Some SCHOOLS are great. Some are...OH GOOD LORD.
| 575 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Mar 27, 2010 12:23:54pm |
re: #562 pingjockey
Heh. When I got married, my wife had two boys, package deal. I adopted them 11 years ago and the judge had been adopted and his little speech to the boys had everybody in tears.
When my SIL married her husband about ten years ago, she had a four-year-old from her first marriage. The last Christmas that she and the little one were at home, and he was across the country, he send piles of presents 'from Daddy', and his parents sent packages 'from Grandpa and Grandpa', with pictures of themselves.
Have I mentioned that I LOVE these folks?
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