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1 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 4:53:26pm

might wanna think about insurance…

2 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 4:53:48pm

Weird - November 1963 and the Whitehouse is on the cover.

3 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 4:53:54pm

Finally….No one on THIS cover is wear my PJ’s!!

4 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 4:54:30pm

re: #2 Stanley Sea

That’s disturbing……

5 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 4:54:41pm

re: #2 Stanley Sea

Weird - November 1963 and the Whitehouse is on the cover.

do you question the timing…

6 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 4:57:54pm

I don’t believe the dude in the wheelchair REALLY needs
the wheelchair!!
IT’S A TRAP!

7 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 4:58:32pm

Your mom’s the best for saving all this, Charles. Mine gave away all my old Star Wars stuff. She had no idea that she was giving away what might become a small fortune.

8 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 4:58:53pm

As a hatchling who has watched you post these images before I could join I just want to say I am in awe.

9 Cokezero  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 4:59:12pm

OT, and i’m not sure if its made the rounds here…

But apparantly, the leader of the Hutaree group was a raging Paul’ian.

[Link: www.dailykos.com…]

10 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:02:42pm

re: #6 reloadingisnotahobby

One of my favorites was “What If…Professor X Of The X-Men Had Become… The Juggernaut!”

He definitely didn’t need a wheelchair in that one.

11 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:05:36pm

Wonder if Charles has received any inquiries on his collection based on his posts.

12 researchok  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:08:07pm

re: #11 Stanley Sea

Wonder if Charles has received any inquiries on his collection based on his posts.

I wouldn’t be surprised. There is a whole world of comic book collectors out there.

Some of the artwork is just incredible.

13 rbottoms  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:08:38pm

You’re killin’ me here. Are planning on selling them by any chance?

Just don’t tell me you have Tales of Suspense #39.

14 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:09:43pm

re: #1 brookly red

might wanna think about insurance…

Absolutely.

15 Silvergirl  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:11:08pm

re: #9 Cokezero

OT, and i’m not sure if its made the rounds here…

But apparantly, the leader of the Hutaree group was a raging Paul’ian.

[Link: www.dailykos.com…]

I believe the point has been made that once a person has advanced to that stage of lunacy, their politics aren’t thought to be the cause.

16 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:11:32pm

re: #14 reine.de.tout

Absolutely.

I don’t think he means State Farm.

17 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:12:11pm

An uncle of mine had tons of Vault Of Horror/Tales from the crypt comics as well as original Vampirella comics, The fabulous furry Freak Brothers and much more, he stuck them in a box under his trailer when he discovered religion (again) and they were destroyed by mold.

18 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:12:30pm

re: #7 Slumbering Behemoth

Your mom’s the best for saving all this, Charles. Mine gave away all my old Star Wars stuff. She had no idea that she was giving away what might become a small fortune.

My mom had a drawer full of twist-ties, but had put my collectible Barbie (and her beautiful clothes) out in the shed where the heat and humidity destroyed her hair. *sigh*

I’m truly in awe of these comic books - we were not allowed to read comic books, so I never had any, and could only read a few when I visited friends who had them.

19 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:13:04pm

re: #16 Decatur Deb

I don’t think he means State Farm.


well yes & actually did mean have the collection appraised & insured.

20 researchok  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:13:56pm

re: #18 reine.de.tout

My mom had a drawer full of twist-ties, but had put my collectible Barbie (and her beautiful clothes) out in the shed where the heat and humidity destroyed her hair. *sigh*

I’m truly in awe of these comic books - we were not allowed to read comic books, so I never had any, and could only read a few when I visited friends who had them.

You need therapy. Clearly you have been deprived.

21 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:14:16pm

re: #16 Decatur Deb

I don’t think he means State Farm.

No, of course not.
Once they have an idea of the value of this collection - if they keep it - it most definitely should be insured, in my most humble opinion.

22 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:14:23pm

re: #18 reine.de.tout

My mom had a drawer full of twist-ties, but had put my collectible Barbie (and her beautiful clothes) out in the shed where the heat and humidity destroyed her hair. *sigh*

I’m truly in awe of these comic books - we were not allowed to read comic books, so I never had any, and could only read a few when I visited friends who had them.

Tough childhood. :)

23 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:14:32pm

re: #15 Silvergirl

I believe the point has been made that once a person has advanced to that stage of lunacy, their politics aren’t thought to be the cause.

let me save that to my clip board…

24 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:14:49pm

Is that James Carville in the wheelchair?

25 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:14:49pm

re: #19 brookly red

well yes & actually did mean have the collection appraised & insured.

I figured “Flatbush Fire & Casualty”.

26 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:15:17pm

re: #25 Decatur Deb

I figured “Flatbush Fire & Casualty”.

you a cop or something?

27 Jeff In Ohio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:15:37pm

re: #15 Silvergirl

I believe the point has been made that once a person has advanced to that stage of lunacy, their politics aren’t thought to be the cause.

Ron Paul is a lunatic?

28 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:16:02pm

re: #20 researchok

You need therapy. Clearly you have been deprived.

Oh, hell yeah.
I was well aware of the deprivation then, too.

We were also not allowed to watch Bonanza. And could not go to Elvis or Beach Blanket movies. No idea why; it was just the rules.

29 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:16:08pm

re: #2 Stanley Sea

Weird - November 1963 and the Whitehouse is on the cover.

Meanwhile, the Google ads sidebar is trying to sell me 911 Was An Inside Job merch from someone’s Cafepress store.


[X-FILES THEME HERE]

30 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:16:19pm

re: #24 Walter L. Newton

Is that James Carville in the wheelchair?

Don’t think so, head is not pointy enough.

31 swamprat  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:16:29pm

re: #25 Decatur Deb

I figured “Flatbush Fire & Casualty”.

Lloyd’s of Lubbock.

32 researchok  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:17:15pm

re: #28 reine.de.tout

Oh, hell yeah.
I was well aware of the deprivation then, too.

We were also not allowed to watch Bonanza. And could not go to Elvis or Beach Blanket movies. No idea why; it was just the rules.

If you tell me you were deprived of ice cream too, I’ll have to go into therapy to deal with the horror.

33 Racer X  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:17:21pm

Ahh, my long lost uncle - Professor X.

34 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:17:22pm

re: #15 Silvergirl

I believe the point has been made that once a person has advanced to that stage of lunacy, their politics aren’t thought to be the cause.

Someone who’s well enough to organize and participate in a militia with an overt set of social and political beliefs—I would say their politics are certainly relevant.

35 Jeff In Ohio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:17:32pm

re: #30 Stanley Sea

Don’t think so, head is not pointy enough.

Then why is Mary Matalin dressed in that red outfit and gesturing wildly at him?

36 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:17:42pm

re: #5 brookly red

do you question the timing…

No, the reason for it is quite clear: THE VANISHER WAS ON THE GRASSY KNOLL!!1

/Alex Jones

37 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:17:44pm

re: #13 rbottoms

You’re killin’ me here. Are planning on selling them by any chance?

Just don’t tell me you have Tales of Suspense #39.

[Link: www.pristinecomics.com…]

38 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:18:25pm

re: #29 negativ

Meanwhile, the Google ads sidebar is trying to sell me 911 Was An Inside Job merch from someone’s Cafepress store.

[X-FILES THEME HERE]

The Troof is out there! ;)

39 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:19:02pm

re: #34 SanFranciscoZionist

Someone who’s well enough to organize and participate in a militia with an overt set of social and political beliefs—I would say their politics are certainly relevant.

that is a 2 edged blade…

40 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:19:07pm

Somewhere, someone is plotting a reality show of the comic book villains who weren’t interesting enough to get more than a few appearances.

I, personally, would watch it.

41 Political Atheist  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:19:09pm

The value is hard to establish to the extent a insurance company will actually write the check. Expensive too. I’d go for a firesafe though.

OT-
Category-As Expected But Welcome Anyway
“Climategate” Researchers Largely Cleared
Investigation Finds No Evidence Supporting Allegations of Tampering with Data or Peer Review Process

42 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:19:23pm

re: #28 reine.de.tout

Oh, hell yeah.
I was well aware of the deprivation then, too.

We were also not allowed to watch Bonanza. And could not go to Elvis or Beach Blanket movies. No idea why; it was just the rules.

Our nuns were very cool with comic books, and that was before the Code. When we finished a book, we would call “Scrambles”, and throw it into the air for the next (tall) reader.

43 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:19:26pm

re: #32 researchok

If you tell me you were deprived of ice cream too, I’ll have to go into therapy to deal with the horror.

Ah, no!
We were allowed to have ice cream!
LOL
As long as it was Dutch Chocolate.

44 Political Atheist  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:20:16pm

re: #28 reine.de.tout

Hi RDT!
Bonanza was off limits? Now that is some kind of strict!
Uh, apart from Walter Cronkite what could you watch?

45 researchok  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:20:46pm

re: #43 reine.de.tout

Ah, no!
We were allowed to have ice cream!
LOL
As long as it was Dutch Chocolate.

We had Polish Peppermint.

Tasted like seaweed and wheat grass.

46 Athens Runaway  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:20:56pm

Thanks for reminding me how completely dorky the old X-men uniforms are.

47 steve_davis  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:21:27pm

This actually causes me just a touch of sadness. 15 years or so ago, I actually had a long cardboard comics-storage box, complete with all of Spawn, Gen-x, etc. Then I got unemployed and box of comics got sold for a song to a comics store. Now, I satisfy my cravings by checking out stuff from the Graphic Novels section of the library. Yesterday, it was Livy’s History of Rome Shelby Foote’s Civil War trilogy, and the first two volumes of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, which is far, FAR better than the movie. I’m assuming that combination of media check-out probably sends a signal to one of the quantum computers buried under Fort Meade. It’s undoubtedly crunching through my potential threat status this evening.

48 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:21:56pm

re: #44 Rightwingconspirator

Hi RDT!
Bonanza was off limits? Now that is some kind of strict!
Uh, apart from Walter Cronkite what could you watch?

heh.
Bullwinkle and Deputy Dawg.
And Yogi Bear.

‘course the town I lived in only had one channel, ‘til I was 12 and we got cable and then had 3 channels.

I got caught up with life when I went away to college.

49 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:22:43pm

re: #45 researchok

We had Polish Peppermint.

Tasted like seaweed and wheat grass.

I remember baskin-robbins had a licorice ice-cream that was battleship grey…

50 Cato the Elder  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:22:51pm

Sarah Palin has irretrievably lost her tiny little mind. At a Tea Party rally, she gave this advice to the Angwy Masses:

Or that bumper sticker you see on the next Subaru driving by, an Obama bumper sticker. You should stop the driver and say, “So how is that hopey, changey thing working out for you?”

One comment I saw mentions that in places like Texas, vehicular harassment can be countered by deadly force.

So will she be abashed and take responsibility if some terrified Obama supporter from Austin blows the face off a leering Palinite who’s trying to force her off the road?

She will not.

Sarah is all the crazy ex-girlfriends in the universe rolled into one singularity of hellish, scorned fury.

51 rbottoms  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:23:05pm

re: #37 negativ

Frak me.

52 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:23:28pm

re: #24 Walter L. Newton

Is that James Carville in the wheelchair?

It might be, and The Vanisher looks like Matt Lesko, that guy in those “GET GOVERNMENT MONEY FOR FREE!” infomercials. Maybe that was one of his earlier costumes.

53 researchok  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:23:39pm

re: #49 brookly red

I remember baskin-robbins had a licorice ice-cream that was battleship grey…

I’ve actually had beet ice cream.

54 swamprat  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:24:06pm

re: #53 researchok

I’ve actually had beet ice cream.

I will pray for you.

55 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:24:27pm

re: #53 researchok

I’ve actually had beet ice cream.

red bean too… beats are high in sugar.

56 researchok  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:24:41pm

re: #54 swamprat

I will pray for you.

I’m cured.

Rehab.

57 Political Atheist  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:25:14pm

re: #48 reine.de.tout

I have an old pal who grew up in a really tiny town. He likes to say he got 2 degrees in college. A business degree and his cherished “certain degree of exposure” to the rest of the world.

58 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:25:14pm

re: #54 swamprat

I will pray for you.

oh but the goat’s blood swirl is to die for…

59 researchok  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:25:27pm

re: #55 brookly red

red bean too… beats are high in sugar.

Hmmm…. I may have a relapse.

60 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:26:30pm

re: #53 researchok

I’ve actually had beet ice cream.

This shop is always fighting for the #1 or 2 spot in the world. Their best flavor is rice.

[Link: www.tripfilms.com…]

61 HoosierHoops  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:28:31pm

re: #53 researchok

I’ve actually had beet ice cream.

There ought to be a law!
Who sat around one day and thought…Jeez..Beet ice cream sounds really good right now? Somebody run out to the garden and grab me some Beets…
Then I’m making Beet Waffles for Breakfast
/

62 Silvergirl  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:29:00pm

re: #34 SanFranciscoZionist

Someone who’s well enough to organize and participate in a militia with an overt set of social and political beliefs—I would say their politics are certainly relevant.

Being relevant and being the cause are different.

When a video game playing kid becomes a mass killer at school, it might be relevant that he played violent video games, but it’s probably not the cause. I’m not going to be looking askance at all the rest of the video game players at school and saying, “Yeah, one of those guys.” And I think that’s the point of pushing any wacko into a group we don’t care for and making them claim him.

63 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:29:01pm

re: #39 brookly red

that is a 2 edged blade…

How so?

64 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:29:25pm

re: #60 Decatur Deb

This shop is always fighting for the #1 or 2 spot in the world. Their best flavor is rice.

[Link: www.tripfilms.com…]

/I see where this is going and if someone makes Hawaiian Pizza Ice cream, swear I will find them…

65 researchok  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:30:58pm

re: #60 Decatur Deb

This shop is always fighting for the #1 or 2 spot in the world. Their best flavor is rice.

[Link: www.tripfilms.com…]

I just watched the whole video,

Nirvana.

66 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:31:33pm

re: #50 Cato the Elder

Sarah Palin has irretrievably lost her tiny little mind. At a Tea Party rally, she gave this advice to the Angwy Masses:

One comment I saw mentions that in places like Texas, vehicular harassment can be countered by deadly force.

So will she be abashed and take responsibility if some terrified Obama supporter from Austin blows the face off a leering Palinite who’s trying to force her off the road?

She will not.

Sarah is all the crazy ex-girlfriends in the universe rolled into one singularity of hellish, scorned fury.

No, that will just prove how violence Subaru-driving liberals are.

/Hopeychangey not working out too bad, overall.

67 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:31:36pm

re: #63 SanFranciscoZionist

How so?

if every time someone commits a crime we check their voting record it is going to get just plain stupid, if you know what I mean.

68 researchok  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:31:49pm

re: #61 HoosierHoops

There ought to be a law!
Who sat around one day and thought…Jeez..Beet ice cream sounds really good right now? Somebody run out to the garden and grab me some Beets…
Then I’m making Beet Waffles for Breakfast
/

Big time stoner, that;s who.

69 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:31:55pm

re: #53 researchok

I’ve actually had beet ice cream.

Sounds pretty good.

70 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:32:15pm

re: #50 Cato the Elder

Sarah Palin has irretrievably lost her tiny little mind. At a Tea Party rally, she gave this advice to the Angwy Masses:

One comment I saw mentions that in places like Texas, vehicular harassment can be countered by deadly force.

So will she be abashed and take responsibility if some terrified Obama supporter from Austin blows the face off a leering Palinite who’s trying to force her off the road?

She will not.

Sarah is all the crazy ex-girlfriends in the universe rolled into one singularity of hellish, scorned fury.

I don’t think she meant for anyone to run anyone else off the road. But she did not think about how her word might be interpreted, which shows once again why she should not be speaking in public.

71 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:32:42pm

re: #65 researchok

I just watched the whole video,

Nirvana.

Italian politics is bufoonery. Their ice cream is as serious as soccer.

72 bratwurst  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:33:14pm

re: #70 Dark_Falcon

But she did not think about how her word might be interpreted, which shows once again why she should not be speaking in public.

Or governing people.

73 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:33:36pm

re: #57 Rightwingconspirator

I have an old pal who grew up in a really tiny town. He likes to say he got 2 degrees in college. A business degree and his cherished “certain degree of exposure” to the rest of the world.

I know what he’s talking about.

My parents were pretty strict about the TV, we didn’t watch much, were forced to go outside and roam the neighborhood. As for reading, were stuck with what they had in the house, Faulkner, Hemingway, Dickens, Emile Zola, Alexandre Dumas, PG Wodehouse, junk like that.

I will say this - I had access to and familiarity with a wider range of writers than anybody I was in school with. I was never sure how much good it ever did me ‘til the Roi & I went to a recent HS mini-reunion, and he told me later that he realized that I was the classiest one among all the women there. I suspect my parents had a bit to do with that, and thanked ‘em in my heart.

74 researchok  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:33:44pm

re: #71 Decatur Deb

Italian politics is bufoonery. Their ice cream is as serious as soccer.

Ain’t that the truth. Like French bakers and bread,

Deadly serious.

75 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:33:46pm

re: #64 brookly red

/I see where this is going and if someone makes Hawaiian Pizza Ice cream, swear I will find them…

Ben and Jerry will get right on that.

76 Cato the Elder  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:34:38pm

re: #62 Silvergirl

Being relevant and being the cause are different.

When a video game playing kid becomes a mass killer at school, it might be relevant that he played violent video games, but it’s probably not the cause. I’m not going to be looking askance at all the rest of the video game players at school and saying, “Yeah, one of those guys.” And I think that’s the point of pushing any wacko into a group we don’t care for and making them claim him.

And I think the point has been made here that dismissing any ideologically driven wannabe cop-killer as a “wacko” and saying his ideology had nothing to do with it is the definition of blindness.

If not ass-covering.

77 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:35:03pm

re: #72 bratwurst

Or governing people.

Quite Concur.

78 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:35:25pm

re: #67 brookly red

if every time someone commits a crime we check their voting record it is going to get just plain stupid, if you know what I mean.

I’m not interested in doing that, however these guys are not exactly a couple of dudes who knocked over a liquor store. This was meant to be an ideological crime.

Is anyone here gonna tell me with a straight face that if the Weathermen resurfaced tomorrow and had a wall full of Cynthia McKinney and Michael Moore we would be going “not relevant, they’re crazy”?

Now, Leboon, I think, is simply crazy.

79 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:35:56pm

re: #67 brookly red

this isn’t just ‘committing a crime’, the way you say it, its the same as robbing a 7-11.

80 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:36:25pm

re: #78 SanFranciscoZionist

81 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:39:10pm

PS: New avatar :D

82 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:40:26pm

re: #78 SanFranciscoZionist

re: #79 windsagio

No but look at where we are going here… a local guy just got busted for molesting his girl friend daughter. He happened to vote for Obama, so do we need to really go there? Again if every time someone commits a crime we look at their voting record it is going to get real stupid, real quick.

83 Obdicut  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:40:27pm

re: #81 windsagio

That kid suffers from Gladius Giganticus.

84 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:40:31pm

re: #81 windsagio

PS: New avatar :D

Very pretty. I like the hair color.

85 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:40:39pm

re: #81 windsagio

Add a cat.

86 Obdicut  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:40:59pm

re: #82 brookly red

Um, she could really just repost what she said back to you. You didn’t address what was raised, at all.

87 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:41:07pm

Fox News goes sniping at AGW again:

NASA Data Worse Than Climate-Gate Data, Space Agency Admits

Fox seems to think that the East Anglia findings were discredit, when in fact they were not.

88 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:41:08pm

re: #83 Obdicut

Its from a fighting game, so he HAS to have a giant sword.

(Isn’t that what competition is about anyways? Showing who has the bigger ‘sword’?)

89 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:41:33pm

re: #85 Stanley Sea

if you look closely there’s a little animal of ambiguous species in his jacket, we’ll say that’s a cat.

90 HoosierHoops  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:42:09pm

re: #84 SanFranciscoZionist

Very pretty. I like the hair color.

The samurai sword has me a little nervous…
Hope they have a permit

91 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:42:13pm

re: #89 windsagio

if you look closely there’s a little animal of ambiguous species in his jacket, we’ll say that’s a cat.

Totally missed it. It’s a cat. yay

92 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:42:44pm

re: #86 Obdicut

No he really didn’t.

re: #82 brookly red


Believe it or not, the nature of the crime matters alot. If someone is planning to attack the government, their ideology matters alot more than if he was say, jaywalking.

93 Cato the Elder  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:43:33pm

re: #70 Dark_Falcon

I don’t think she meant for anyone to run anyone else off the road. But she did not think about how her word might be interpreted, which shows once again why she should not be speaking in public.

Really?

Her words:

Or that bumper sticker you see on the next Subaru† driving by, an Obama bumper sticker. You should stop the driver and say, “So how is that hopey, changey thing working out for you?”

She didn’t say “the next time you see one in a parking lot”. No - driving by. You should stop them.

And I think she and her army of advisers think very, very carefully about how her words ought to be interpreted, and she speaks them with full knowledge of potential consequences.

I for one am getting mighty tired of all the “they didn’t mean it that way” ducking and weaving whenever the right brings out another veiled threat of civil mayhem or violence.

†And why specifically a Subaru? Maybe because that’s not what “real Americans” drive? Playing to a bit of xenophobia and class prejudice there, maybe? Nah, not our dear little Sarah!

94 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:43:53pm

re: #91 Stanley Sea

having to make sure there are cats really puts a damper on my choices, since I can’t actually MAKE any of these images myself >>

95 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:43:54pm

re: #50 Cato the Elder

Sarah Palin has irretrievably lost her tiny little mind. At a Tea Party rally, she gave this advice to the Angwy Masses

Apart from that, we all know that if there’s anything people of all stripes just absolutely adore, it’s being subjected to smug self-righteous attempts at mockery by complete strangers, unsolicited and out of the blue.

It sure worked when all the “Chimpy McHaliburton Bu$hitler” idiots tried it, didn’t it?

96 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:44:14pm

re: #92 windsagio

No he really didn’t.

re: #82 brookly red

Believe it or not, the nature of the crime matters alot. If someone is planning to attack the government, their ideology matters alot more than if he was say, jaywalking.

The sedition charge makes it a little more interesting, eh.

97 austin_blue  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:44:20pm

OT:

Here’s an interesting article. It shows total liabilities, as a % of a State’s total GDP.

Who’s #1? At 70%?

Hint: It’s Governor recently resigned to join the whack reality show that is now modern American politics.

98 Obdicut  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:44:27pm

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

Almost all stations and newspapers and magazines suck at science reporting in one way or another, but Fox takes the cake in blatant AGW denial and anti-science attitudes.

Though HuffPo’s love of quack medicine ain’t too shiny either. But it’s far less serious of an issue than AGW, and one more easily countered, but simply talking with your doctor.

99 swamprat  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:44:29pm

re: #82 brookly red

re: #79 windsagio

No but look at where we are going here… a local guy just got busted for molesting his girl friend daughter. He happened to vote for Obama, so do we need to really go there? Again if every time someone commits a crime we look at their voting record it is going to get real stupid, real quick.

Aye. Fer na trrrrrrue Democrat would do such a thing.

100 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:44:57pm

re: #89 windsagio

if you look closely there’s a little animal of ambiguous species in his jacket, we’ll say that’s a cat.

Yes, it does appear to be his Cat Overlord. Can’t let the hero out with proper supervision after all.

101 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:45:14pm

re: #97 austin_blue

modified +, an actual link would be good :P

102 bratwurst  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:45:37pm

I wonder how Sarah would feel if I stopped someone to talk about their Obama sticker but then quit halfway through? ;)

103 Obdicut  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:45:48pm

re: #97 austin_blue

I’d love to read it, but I don’t see a link. Am I going blind?

104 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:45:54pm

re: #94 windsagio

I will not forget.

105 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:46:07pm

re: #82 brookly red

re: #79 windsagio

No but look at where we are going here… a local guy just got busted for molesting his girl friend daughter. He happened to vote for Obama, so do we need to really go there? Again if every time someone commits a crime we look at their voting record it is going to get real stupid, real quick.

I answered that objection. Overwhelmingly, you’re right. When it comes to clearly politically motivated crimes, it is obviously informative to see what influences played into the perp’s worldview and frame of mind.

Does this mean that if the Hutarees were obsessed with Ron Paul, they’re Ron Paul’s fault? No, but probably tells us a lot about them.

You really think what you’re saying makes sense? That taking the political influences of political criminals into account is the same as routinely checking to see if the guy who stabbed his buddy voted Obama or McCain?

106 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:46:12pm

re: #96 Stanley Sea

its like hate crimes kind of.

I know some people don’t agree with the whole concept of that, but if ideology is a driving force behind the crime, than the ideology matters.

107 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:46:17pm

re: #93 Cato the Elder

She didn’t say “the next time you see one in a parking lot”. No - driving by. You should stop them.

And I think she and her army of advisers think very, very carefully about how her words ought to be interpreted, and she speaks them with full knowledge of potential consequences.

I for one am getting mighty tired of all the “they didn’t mean it that way” ducking and weaving whenever the right brings out another veiled threat of civil mayhem or violence.

†And why specifically a Subaru? Maybe because that’s not what “real Americans” drive? Playing to a bit of xenophobia and class prejudice there, maybe? Nah, not our dear little Sarah!

I really don’t think she hears what she says. That is not a defense.

108 swamprat  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:46:17pm

re: #89 windsagio

if you look closely there’s a in his jacket, we’ll say that’s a cat.

little animal of ambiguous species

Nominate for rotating title.

109 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:46:20pm

re: #103 Obdicut

I’d love to read it, but I don’t see a link. Am I going blind?

only figuratively

110 austin_blue  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:46:28pm

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

Fox News goes sniping at AGW again:

NASA Data Worse Than Climate-Gate Data, Space Agency Admits

Fox seems to think that the East Anglia findings were discredit, when in fact they were not.

This is *really* going to rile up all them weathercasters.

111 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:46:34pm

Nice article about an interview with the President where he talks about his kids and life in general.

Whatever issues I have with Obama as President, he seems like a good Dad.

112 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:46:46pm

re: #93 Cato the Elder

She didn’t say “the next time you see one in a parking lot”. No - driving by. You should stop them.

And I think she and her army of advisers think very, very carefully about how her words ought to be interpreted, and she speaks them with full knowledge of potential consequences.

I for one am getting mighty tired of all the “they didn’t mean it that way” ducking and weaving whenever the right brings out another veiled threat of civil mayhem or violence.

†And why specifically a Subaru? Maybe because that’s not what “real Americans” drive? Playing to a bit of xenophobia and class prejudice there, maybe? Nah, not our dear little Sarah!

I’m more willing to extend the benefit of the doubt, but her words could certainly be taken as you say and I agree she was very foolish to utter them.

113 Cato the Elder  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:46:47pm

re: #82 brookly red

re: #79 windsagio

No but look at where we are going here… a local guy just got busted for molesting his girl friend daughter. He happened to vote for Obama, so do we need to really go there? Again if every time someone commits a crime we look at their voting record it is going to get real stupid, real quick.

If the crime is obviously motivated by politics, not trying to find out about the political background would be negligence on the part of the justice system and the media.

114 austin_blue  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:47:01pm

re: #103 Obdicut

I’d love to read it, but I don’t see a link. Am I going blind?

That’s become I’m an idiot. Here:

ttp[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

115 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:47:43pm

re: #105 SanFranciscoZionist

I answered that objection. Overwhelmingly, you’re right. When it comes to clearly politically motivated crimes, it is obviously informative to see what influences played into the perp’s worldview and frame of mind.

Does this mean that if the Hutarees were obsessed with Ron Paul, they’re Ron Paul’s fault? No, but probably tells us a lot about them.

You really think what you’re saying makes sense? That taking the political influences of political criminals into account is the same as routinely checking to see if the guy who stabbed his buddy voted Obama or McCain?

are you suggesting profiling as a crime preventer, or as a study guide, after the fact?

116 Four More Tears  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:47:44pm

I was listening to Levin on the ride home get all butthurt over calling those idiots in Michigan the “Christian Militia.” Sucks when the shoe’s on the other foot, huh?

117 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:48:01pm

re: #114 austin_blue

haha

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

Never seen his ‘page not found’ page before, stupid sleistacks!

118 austin_blue  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:48:02pm

re: #97 austin_blue

OT:

Here’s an interesting article. It shows total liabilities, as a % of a State’s total GDP.

Who’s #1? At 70%?

Hint: It’s Governor recently resigned to join the whack reality show that is now modern American politics.

ttp[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

Doh!

119 Obdicut  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:48:22pm

re: #114 austin_blue

I have some bad news.

That link is, um, nonfunctional for me.

120 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:48:36pm

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

Fox News goes sniping at AGW again:

NASA Data Worse Than Climate-Gate Data, Space Agency Admits

Fox seems to think that the East Anglia findings were discredit, when in fact they were not.

They’re doing it badly then. UK ‘Climategate’ inquiry largely clears scientists

121 Cato the Elder  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:48:36pm

re: #107 Decatur Deb

I really don’t think she hears what she says. That is not a defense.

I don’t think she writes what she says. I think it is carefully scripted for her by people with a plain agenda. And despite her own very modest intellectual gifts, I think she’s perfectly well aware of this, and perfectly cognizant of what she’s doing.

122 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:48:51pm

re: #115 albusteve

I would suggest both. Real profiling (not the halfassed ‘black guy with a nice car’ kind) is an amazing and useful policing tool.

123 researchok  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:49:06pm

re: #98 Obdicut

Almost all stations and newspapers and magazines suck at science reporting in one way or another, but Fox takes the cake in blatant AGW denial and anti-science attitudes.

Though HuffPo’s love of quack medicine ain’t too shiny either. But it’s far less serious of an issue than AGW, and one more easily countered, but simply talking with your doctor.

Succinct.

124 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:49:27pm

re: #92 windsagio

No he really didn’t.

re: #82 brookly red

Believe it or not, the nature of the crime matters alot. If someone is planning to attack the government, their ideology matters alot more than if he was say, jaywalking.

If by attacking the government you mean like bombing the Pentagon? Do you really want to go there?

125 RogueOne  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:49:36pm

re: #96 Stanley Sea

The sedition charge makes it a little more interesting, eh.

Especially since charges 3,4,& 5 all depend on that sedition charge. If they beat rap #1 then those 3 go away too.

126 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:49:52pm

re: #119 Obdicut

I have some bad news.

That link is, um, nonfunctional for me.

Here.
The URL had extra “stuff” in it; it works once the extra stuff is taken out.

127 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:50:09pm

re: #122 windsagio

I would suggest both. Real profiling (not the halfassed ‘black guy with a nice car’ kind) is an amazing and useful policing tool.

no kidding?….dayam

128 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:50:22pm

re: #115 albusteve

are you suggesting profiling as a crime preventer, or as a study guide, after the fact?

The latter, or as a toolkit for a negotiator or investigator.

129 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:50:32pm

re: #124 brookly red

sure. If bombing the pentagon was politically motivated by someone on the left, then that would be an important part of the law-enforcement puzzle.


Not everything should be viewed through the harsh partisan (WUB would say ‘tribalist’) lens :P

130 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:50:41pm

re: #24 Walter L. Newton

Is that James Carville in the wheelchair?

oh man, Professor X does sorta look like Carville, it’s true

131 Cato the Elder  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:50:46pm

re: #112 Dark_Falcon

I’m more willing to extend the benefit of the doubt, but her words could certainly be taken as you say and I agree she was very foolish to utter them.

Why are you willing to extend her the benefit of the doubt? Do you really believe she’s acting and speaking on her own behalf, without minders, who are minding her for the people who are running her?

132 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:51:08pm

re: #130 WindUpBird

Amazing timing, I just gave you a shoutout :P

133 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:51:14pm

re: #124 brookly red

If by attacking the government you mean like bombing the Pentagon? Do you really want to go there?

What the heck are you talking about?

134 RogueOne  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:51:16pm

re: #130 WindUpBird

oh man, Professor X does sorta look like Carville, it’s true

I love Carville.

135 Obdicut  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:51:22pm

re: #126 reine.de.tout

Thanks!

And I’m out for Indian food with the fiancee and then some bocce ball by floodlight.

136 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:51:36pm

re: #129 windsagio

sure. If bombing the pentagon was politically motivated by someone on the left, then that would be an important part of the law-enforcement puzzle.

Not everything should be viewed through the harsh partisan (WUB would say ‘tribalist’) lens :P

no only the things that YOU want to view that… OK I get it.

137 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:51:51pm

re: #129 windsagio

sure. If bombing the pentagon was politically motivated by someone on the left, then that would be an important part of the law-enforcement puzzle.

Not everything should be viewed through the harsh partisan (WUB would say ‘tribalist’) lens :P

I’m trying not to overuse the term, hahah

138 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:52:00pm

re: #133 SanFranciscoZionist

What the heck are you talking about?

Ayers…

139 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:52:11pm

re: #136 brookly red

Eeh?!

hows that work? I agreed with you!

140 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:52:35pm

re: #138 brookly red

lol of course you are.

Damn boomers never let go!

141 researchok  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:52:42pm

re: #111 reine.de.tout

Nice article about an interview with the President where he talks about his kids and life in general.

Whatever issues I have with Obama as President, he seems like a good Dad.

Props to grandma, too.

She runs a tight ship, I hear. Good in a place where staff is at beck and call.

142 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:52:55pm

re: #138 brookly red

Ayers…

OK. Ayers. What about him? You think his politics played no part in his crimes and we shouldn’t talk about that?

For real?

143 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:53:00pm

re: #134 RogueOne

I love Carville.

Gollum.

144 austin_blue  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:53:15pm

re: #119 Obdicut

I have some bad news.

That link is, um, nonfunctional for me.

Really? I’m on Safari and I got there. Hmmm…re: #117 windsagio

haha

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

Never seen his ‘page not found’ page before, stupid sleistacks!

Try this?

www.nytimes.com/2010/03/30/business/economy/30states.html?src=me&ref=general

145 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:53:17pm

re: #130 WindUpBird

oh man, Professor X does sorta look like Carville, it’s true

No, Professor X has a nice normal head. Carville’s points to the sides and the top. Terrible.

146 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:53:33pm

re: #145 Stanley Sea

No, Professor X has a nice normal head. Carville’s points to the sides and the top. Terrible.

depends how Professor X is drawn! :D

147 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:53:33pm

re: #141 researchok

Props to grandma, too.

She runs a tight ship, I hear. Good in a place where staff is at beck and call.

I have to say, I think it’s nice they can have her there.

148 Four More Tears  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:53:52pm

Bill Ayers was so important that I had never head about him until Obama ran for office…

149 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:53:55pm

re: #142 SanFranciscoZionist

OK. Ayers. What about him? You think his politics played no part in his crimes and we shouldn’t talk about that?

For real?

of course it did, back to my 2 edge blade…

150 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:53:59pm

re: #121 Cato the Elder

I don’t think she writes what she says. I think it is carefully scripted for her by people with a plain agenda. And despite her own very modest intellectual gifts, I think she’s perfectly well aware of this, and perfectly cognizant of what she’s doing.

Much is obviously staff prodeuct. The way she speaks—especially the ellipses, makes me think she hears different meanings in words and word groups. It’s almost as though she knows her audience understands her, and just needs telepathic cues.

151 Aceofwhat?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:54:03pm

re: #97 austin_blue

OT:

Here’s an interesting article. It shows total liabilities, as a % of a State’s total GDP.

Who’s #1? At 70%?

Hint: It’s Governor recently resigned to join the whack reality show that is now modern American politics.

he’s the gift that keeps on giving…

152 Bob Dillon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:54:10pm

[Link: www.google.com…]

Superman comic sells for record 1.5 million dollars

Your mother is obviously a genius for putting those away, Charles. This was just on the here in the SF Bay Area.

153 RogueOne  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:54:13pm

re: #143 reine.de.tout

Gollum.

I do, I think he’s hilarious. That is one couple I wouldn’t mind going to dinner with.

154 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:54:40pm

re: #120 CyanSnowHawk

They’re doing it badly then. UK ‘Climategate’ inquiry largely clears scientists

They don’t care. They’re flinging mud and seeing what sticks.

155 researchok  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:54:42pm

re: #147 SanFranciscoZionist

I have to say, I think it’s nice they can have her there.

Absolutely. Grandma will keep the kids grounded in the Disneyland they inhabit.

156 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:54:48pm

re: #148 JasonA

Bill Ayers was so important that I had never head about him until Obama ran for office…

totally :D

157 Bob Dillon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:54:55pm

re: #152 Bobibutu

[Link: www.google.com…]

Superman comic sells for record 1.5 million dollars

Your mother is obviously a genius for putting those away, Charles. This was just on the here in the SF Bay Area.

On the radio.

158 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:55:03pm

re: #149 brookly red

This is like a strawman on crack.

SFZ and I are saying that the logic in questoin SHOULD be applied both ways, and you’re pretending that we’re denying it DIRECTLY IN THE FACE OF WHAT WE’RE SAYING.

Bad form man, bad form.

159 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:55:03pm

re: #147 SanFranciscoZionist

I have to say, I think it’s nice they can have her there.

In balancing family life with official life, I would think having her there makes all the difference in the world for them and for keeping the kids grounded. Whatever they’re doing, it seems to be working very well.

160 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:55:10pm

re: #143 reine.de.tout

Gollum.

Thulsa Doom.

161 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:55:16pm

re: #153 RogueOne

I do, I think he’s hilarious. That is one couple I wouldn’t mind going to dinner with.

They would have the most amazing off-the-record stories!

162 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:55:22pm

re: #148 JasonA

Bill Ayers was so important that I had never head about him until Obama ran for office…

Ding!

163 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:55:37pm

re: #98 Obdicut

Almost all stations and newspapers and magazines suck at science reporting in one way or another, but Fox takes the cake in blatant AGW denial and anti-science attitudes.

Though HuffPo’s love of quack medicine ain’t too shiny either. But it’s far less serious of an issue than AGW, and one more easily countered, but simply talking with your doctor.

How Science Reporting Works

and,

Tonight, on IRRATIONAL SCARE PROGRAM:

164 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:55:42pm

re: #149 brookly red

of course it did, back to my 2 edge blade…

Wind Up Bird does not understand

165 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:55:57pm

re: #131 Cato the Elder

Why are you willing to extend her the benefit of the doubt? Do you really believe she’s acting and speaking on her own behalf, without minders, who are minding her for the people who are running her?

Who do you think is running her?

166 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:56:25pm

re: #160 Decatur Deb

Thulsa Doom.

What a great villian!

(talking about the movie not the novels/comics)

167 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:56:44pm

re: #158 windsagio

This is like a strawman on crack.

SFZ and I are saying that the logic in questoin SHOULD be applied both ways, and you’re pretending that we’re denying it DIRECTLY IN THE FACE OF WHAT WE’RE SAYING.

Bad form man, bad form.

OK, so let’s put a D or an R next to every name in the daily police blotter… oh that will be so helpful.

168 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:56:54pm

re: #148 JasonA

Bill Ayers was so important that I had never head about him until Obama ran for office…

neither did a lot of people…but old Bill was out there killing and pillaging just the same…he should have gotten more press at the time….ho hum

169 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:56:55pm

re: #164 WindUpBird

He’s saying that because of ayers we can’t consider the political views of people who commit cirmes against the government.

I guess it makes us hypocrites or something in the Mojoverse.

170 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:56:55pm

re: #149 brookly red

of course it did, back to my 2 edge blade…

I’m missing something here. You mean that because examining the political motivations of domestic terrorists might include shining light on the failings of both left- and right-wing extremists…what?

I don’t get it.

I’d be happy to discuss this further, but I got a seder to get to.

171 Four More Tears  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:57:07pm

re: #166 WindUpBird

What a great villian!

(talking about the movie not the novels/comics)

“Come to me, my child…”

172 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:57:18pm

re: #167 brookly red

OK, so let’s put a D or an R next to every name in the daily police blotter… oh that will be so helpful.

What’s the point of that?

173 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:57:26pm

re: #115 albusteve

are you suggesting profiling as a crime preventer, or as a study guide, after the fact?

I think it’s more like this:

if the FBI sees a pattern of similar ideology connecting crimes, they should use that in investigations.

174 Bob Dillon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:57:33pm

re: #148 JasonA

Bill Ayers was so important that I had never head about him until Obama ran for office…

Were you around in the late 60s - early 70s? I was overseas and sure heard about him.

175 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:57:38pm

re: #156 WindUpBird

totally :D

I knew about him. But I’m a politicogeek in some ways.

176 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:57:41pm

re: #167 brookly red

And now we’re back full circle to your FIRST misrepresentation.

177 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:57:54pm

re: #169 windsagio

He’s saying that because of ayers we can’t consider the political views of people who commit cirmes against the government.

I guess it makes us hypocrites or something in the Mojoverse.

Wind Up Bird REALLY REALLY does not understand

178 Four More Tears  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:58:11pm

re: #174 Bobibutu

Were you around in the late 60s - early 70s? I was overseas and sure heard about him.

lol I wasn’t anywhere until 1976 :D

And it’s time for me to get Lost…

179 austin_blue  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:58:30pm

re: #167 brookly red

OK, so let’s put a D or an R next to every name in the daily police blotter… oh that will be so helpful.

I think you would find that most of them would be listed as “DNV”= Does Not Vote.

180 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:58:32pm

re: #159 reine.de.tout

In balancing family life with official life, I would think having her there makes all the difference in the world for them and for keeping the kids grounded. Whatever they’re doing, it seems to be working very well.

I also imagine it’s nice for the kids to have a grown-up who doesn’t have to be at some diplomatic dinner no matter what.

Good arrangement, I think.

181 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:58:36pm

re: #177 WindUpBird

Pff I don’t even get credit for mentioning Mojo?

(PS: Spiral was the best character Marvel ever invented!!!!)

182 Jeff In Ohio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:58:36pm

re: #169 windsagio

lol Mojoverse.

183 Racer X  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:58:56pm

re: #93 Cato the Elder

And I think she and her army of advisers think very, very carefully about how her words ought to be interpreted, and she speaks them with full knowledge of potential consequences.

Please.

There is no “army of advisors”. I’d be surprised if it was more than 3 guys and Sarah siting in a motor home in a Walmart parking lot. She is totally out of her league (much more so than Obama). The right has no clue what they are doing. They have put zero thought into the ramifications of their words and actions.

Total disarray.

184 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:59:01pm

re: #167 brookly red

OK, so let’s put a D or an R next to every name in the daily police blotter… oh that will be so helpful.

Oh, stop.

185 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:59:07pm

re: #182 Jeff In Ohio

Yay, somebody got the comics reference in the comics thread!

186 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:59:18pm

re: #175 SanFranciscoZionist

I knew about him. But I’m a politicogeek in some ways.

I remember him in realtime, but Bernardine Dohrn got all the press.

187 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:59:24pm

re: #184 SanFranciscoZionist

I picture you saying that like a flaming gay guy.

188 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:59:35pm

re: #169 windsagio

He’s saying that because of ayers we can’t consider the political views of people who commit cirmes against the government.

I guess it makes us hypocrites or something in the Mojoverse.

Bill Ayers was a big ol’ psycho leftist. That’s why he wanted to kill people.

There. We OK to talk about the Hutarees now?

189 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:59:40pm

re: #173 WindUpBird

I think it’s more like this:

if the FBI sees a pattern of similar ideology connecting crimes, they should use that in investigations.

yes, I’d call it profiling because that’s what it is…just say it…profiling is good

190 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 5:59:42pm

re: #169 windsagio

He’s saying that because of ayers we can’t consider the political views of people who commit cirmes against the government.

I guess it makes us hypocrites or something in the Mojoverse.

also

MOJOVERSE!!!!!!! I love you man

191 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:00:16pm

re: #174 Bobibutu

Were you around in the late 60s - early 70s? I was overseas and sure heard about him.

history is dead

192 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:00:18pm

re: #172 Dark_Falcon

What’s the point of that?

exactly there is no point, can you imagine the DA standing up in court and pointing to the defendant and screaming Paulian!

193 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:00:25pm

re: #190 WindUpBird

lol thakns >>

194 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:00:33pm

re: #186 Decatur Deb

I remember him in realtime, but Bernardine Dohrn got all the press.

Revolutionary chicks are hotter and more interesting.

195 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:00:45pm

re: #187 windsagio

I picture you saying that like a flaming gay guy.

E-Zacktly.

196 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:01:02pm

re: #192 brookly red

exactly there is no point, can you imagine the DA standing up in court and pointing to the defendant and screaming Paulian!

No. But I still don’t understand what you’re getting at?

197 Ojoe  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:01:08pm

re: #183 Racer X

Neither Palin nor Obama seem to me to use much forethought in speaking.

198 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:01:13pm

re: #191 albusteve

The problem is more that people of a certain age have this illusion that their icons and their conflicts are the only ones that are important.

(And I don’t know if you apply to the group in questoin or not :P)

199 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:01:20pm

OK, I gotta gotta go.

Night all.

200 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:01:33pm

re: #189 albusteve

yes, I’d call it profiling because that’s what it is…just say it…profiling is good

Wellll, Profiling in the way that investigators identify criminals by their MO, as opposed to just “they believe this, keep an eye on them”

201 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:01:34pm

re: #188 SanFranciscoZionist

Bill Ayers was a big ol’ psycho leftist. That’s why he wanted to kill people.

There. We OK to talk about the Hutarees now?

Didn’t want to. Was willing to risk their lives.

202 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:01:39pm

re: #197 Ojoe

heh, ‘cuz Obama is just like Palin!

203 Jeff In Ohio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:01:46pm

re: #190 WindUpBird

also

MOJOVERSE!!! I love you man

Yeah, it really was perfect.

204 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:01:49pm

re: #171 JasonA

“Come to me, my child…”

That is power, boy! What is steel compared to the hand that wields it?

205 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:02:16pm

re: #197 Ojoe

Neither Palin nor Obama seem to me to use much forethought in speaking.

in b4 typical white person

206 Racer X  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:02:29pm

re: #165 Dark_Falcon

Who do you think is running her?

Whoever it is, they are doing a piss-poor job.

207 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:02:34pm

re: #189 albusteve

Dude you’ve gotta admit, there’s plenty of ways to misuse policing techniques.

Profiling is unfortunately very prone to abuse when not used by experts.

208 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:02:41pm

re: #196 Dark_Falcon

No. But I still don’t understand what you’re getting at?

the original post said that the malita folks were paulians… SG said it dosn’t matter once you cross the line… I agreed & the partisan BS was on.

209 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:02:50pm

re: #199 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, I gotta gotta go.

Night all.

g’night, SFZ.
And again, sorry about my grumpiness earlier.
I’m feeling all guilty and shit …

210 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:02:57pm

re: #188 SanFranciscoZionist

Bill Ayers was a big ol’ psycho leftist. That’s why he wanted to kill people.

There. We OK to talk about the Hutarees now?

sure…you go first, what are you gonna say about them…oh, right wingers?..we already know that

211 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:03:26pm

re: #202 windsagio

heh, ‘cuz Obama is just like Palin!

she has better legs…

212 Ojoe  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:03:58pm

re: #202 windsagio

General quality of public figures is poor these days.

213 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:04:11pm

re: #210 albusteve

Yeah yeah I know ‘the left is just as bad’

Wasn’t there a term for the kind of ‘logic’ that’s being used here? I think its in latin… right on the tip of my tongue…

214 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:04:18pm

Good Evening LGF
Any bleeding ankles?

215 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:04:36pm

re: #181 windsagio

Pff I don’t even get credit for mentioning Mojo?

(PS: Spiral was the best character Marvel ever invented!!!)

I gave you credit!

And good call on Spiral!

216 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:04:38pm

re: #212 Ojoe

IF you’re gonna support that comparison, you might wanna check your filters :p

217 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:04:57pm

re: #201 Decatur Deb

Didn’t want to. Was willing to risk their lives.

No, when he helped build that nail bomb meant for Ft. Dix (the one that went off prematurely in NYC) he was trying to kill. You don’t load a bomb with shrapnel unless you’re going for casualties.

218 researchok  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:05:10pm

re: #209 reine.de.tout

g’night, SFZ.
And again, sorry about my grumpiness earlier.
I’m feeling all guilty and shit …

That’s the Bonanza deprivation.

219 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:05:27pm
220 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:05:36pm

re: #212 Ojoe

General quality of public figures is poor these days.

yeah, it’s so much better than it was during Nixon, hah

221 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:05:41pm

re: #218 researchok

That’s the Bonanza deprivation.

ROFL!
YES, it is.
LOL.

222 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:05:50pm

re: #214 Spare O’Lake

Good Evening LGF
Any bleeding ankles?

Nah. Fujita One.

223 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:05:55pm

re: #213 windsagio

Yeah yeah I know ‘the left is just as bad’

Wasn’t there a term for the kind of ‘logic’ that’s being used here? I think its in latin… right on the tip of my tongue…

Uckfay Ouyay?

224 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:05:56pm

re: #220 WindUpBird

Hey he did a good job normalizing our relations with china!!!!

225 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:05:59pm

re: #214 Spare O’Lake

Good Evening LGF
Any bleeding ankles?

Nope, we’re keeping things calm tonight.

226 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:06:13pm

re: #207 windsagio

Dude you’ve gotta admit, there’s plenty of ways to misuse policing techniques.

Profiling is unfortunately very prone to abuse when not used by experts.

whatever…exactly what are you saying

227 swamprat  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:06:17pm

re: #187 windsagio

I picture you saying that like a flaming gay guy.

Sounds like the wednesday night special at a cannibal restaurant.

228 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:06:39pm

re: #220 WindUpBird

yeah, it’s so much better than it was during Nixon, hah

I think i reversed my sarcasm. Oh well!

But man, there’s been some REAL wackos from America’s past 40-50 years. The idea that it’s bad now in comparison, it’s laughable.

229 Racer X  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:06:49pm

re: #197 Ojoe

Neither Palin nor Obama seem to me to use much forethought in speaking.

Obama has his share of gaffes, but Sarah has him beat by a mile.

Reality is Sarah has been a HUGE disappointment, and Obama has been somewhat of a surprise in the fact that he has made a few decisions that I actually agree with. A few. Not a lot.

230 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:07:00pm

re: #217 Dark_Falcon

No, when he helped build that nail bomb meant for Ft. Dix (the one that went off prematurely in NYC) he was trying to kill. You don’t load a bomb with shrapnel unless you’re going for casualties.

Thought the Greenwich Village EOD experts were a different bunch. Will check.

231 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:07:02pm

re: #217 Dark_Falcon

No, when he helped build that nail bomb meant for Ft. Dix (the one that went off prematurely in NYC) he was trying to kill. You don’t load a bomb with shrapnel unless you’re going for casualties.

/well that was sooooo long ago

232 HoosierHoops  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:07:05pm

re: #214 Spare O’Lake

Good Evening LGF
Any bleeding ankles?

Hi You..We got a good batch of hatchings here today..Good Frosh class…
And some socks…We even had a coach register today…Fricking A!

233 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:07:12pm

re: #226 albusteve

I’m saying that most of the time when used by people like the police and TSA profiling is misused, but that doesn’t at all reduce the techniques overall value.

Complex, I know.

234 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:07:19pm

re: #224 windsagio

Hey he did a good job normalizing our relations with china!!!

I agree with Nixon’s policies at times, but his human “quality” was lacking. :D

235 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:07:35pm

re: #213 windsagio

Yeah yeah I know ‘the left is just as bad’

Wasn’t there a term for the kind of ‘logic’ that’s being used here? I think its in latin… right on the tip of my tongue…

I have no clue what you’re babbling about…if oblique is cool with you that’s fine

236 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:07:36pm

re: #219 windsagio

to lighten the mood:

Sex Dwarf lures disco dollies to a life of Vice!


[Video]

I have never felt so deprived by the work firewall blocking YouTube. What a beautiful and tempting headline.

237 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:07:53pm

re: #234 WindUpBird

pff that was sarcasm too.

Look where Nixon’s China has put us now :p

238 Cato the Elder  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:08:27pm

re: #165 Dark_Falcon

Who do you think is running her?

Various plutocrats. Rupert Murdoch, for example. Bill Kristol. Richard Mellon Scaife. The $cientealogists. General Dynamics. Aetna. People who hate wolves. Big Pharma. Magneto. The Family. Soros, playing a double game.

The usual suspects. Take your pick.

Serious question back: do you honestly believe she’s running herself? Does any politician?

239 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:08:32pm

re: #229 Racer X

Obama has his share of gaffes, but Sarah has him beat by a mile.

Reality is Sarah has been a HUGE disappointment, and Obama has been somewhat of a surprise in the fact that he has made a few decisions that I actually agree with. A few. Not a lot.

You had the best comment of the day - on the other thread.

240 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:08:43pm

re: #235 albusteve

you know how it is, sometimes we get tired of the hearing the same name for the same logical fallacy over and over and over and over and over and over.

241 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:08:51pm

re: #213 windsagio

Yeah yeah I know ‘the left is just as bad’

Wasn’t there a term for the kind of ‘logic’ that’s being used here? I think its in latin… right on the tip of my tongue…

dog shit?

242 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:08:57pm

re: #239 Stanley Sea

lol ZING!

243 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:09:28pm

re: #223 Spare O’Lake

Uckfay Ouyay?

oops almost missed this!

Hi spare, I love you too~!!

244 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:09:33pm

re: #237 windsagio

pff that was sarcasm too.

Look where Nixon’s China has put us now :p

I was trying to be moderate! Nixon started the EPA and OSHA after all ;-)

245 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:09:55pm

re: #236 CyanSnowHawk

haha look it up sometime, delightfully depraved song >>

“Making it with the dumb chauffeur!”

246 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:10:00pm

re: #241 brookly red

dog shit?

Nah, it’s something like Too Pepsi…. Too Sprite?

I got it! Too Dew!

247 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:10:04pm

re: #233 windsagio

I’m saying that most of the time when used by people like the police and TSA profiling is misused, but that doesn’t at all reduce the techniques overall value.

Complex, I know.

well then that idea is a bust…so what’s next?

248 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:10:22pm

re: #179 austin_blue

I think you would find that most of them would be listed as “DNV”= Does Not Vote.

Or, ANR = are not registered.

249 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:10:30pm

re: #242 windsagio

lol ZING!

I meant it literally. For real. Ugh.

250 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:10:48pm

re: #246 WindUpBird

Tu Dew for Que!

251 Racer X  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:10:51pm

re: #239 Stanley Sea

You had the best comment of the day - on the other thread.

Heh.

Blind squirrel.

252 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:11:08pm

re: #229 Racer X

Obama has his share of gaffes, but Sarah has him beat by a mile.

Reality is Sarah has been a HUGE disappointment, and Obama has been somewhat of a surprise in the fact that he has made a few decisions that I actually agree with. A few. Not a lot.

I characterize Obama as a moderate Democrat. I figured that’s how he’d govern, and I’m not surprised, that’s what I voted for.

253 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:11:14pm

re: #238 Cato the Elder

Various plutocrats. Rupert Murdoch, for example. Bill Kristol. Richard Mellon Scaife. The $cientealogists. General Dynamics. Aetna. People who hate wolves. Big Pharma. Magneto. The Family. Soros, playing a double game.

The usual suspects. Take your pick.

Serious question back: do you honestly believe she’s running herself? Does any politician?

That’s rather close to a conspiracy theory. Please elaborate.

254 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:11:17pm

re: #247 albusteve

oh c’mon steve, I didn’t say that at all.

255 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:11:57pm

re: #240 windsagio

you know how it is, sometimes we get tired of the hearing the same name for the same logical fallacy over and over and over and over and over and over.

It’s sorta tailor made for blogs :D

256 Racer X  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:11:59pm

re: #249 Stanley Sea

I meant it literally. For real. Ugh.

You are mad fer realz that I don’t love Obama?

257 Sheepdogess  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:12:04pm

Very deep stuff.

258 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:12:56pm

re: #217 Dark_Falcon

Looks like he was in the NYC work accident, and was using frags, so screw him twice.

259 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:12:58pm

re: #254 windsagio

Would you say Spiral is a cooler character than Warlock?

260 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:12:59pm

re: #229 Racer X

Obama has his share of gaffes, but Sarah has him beat by a mile.

Reality is Sarah has been a HUGE disappointment, and Obama has been somewhat of a surprise in the fact that he has made a few decisions that I actually agree with. A few. Not a lot.

agreed 100%

261 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:12:59pm

re: #257 Sheepdogess

hey random oldster, hows the gout?!

262 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:13:05pm

re: #257 Sheepdogess

Very deep stuff.

thats why they make boots :)

263 Cato the Elder  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:13:26pm

re: #253 Dark_Falcon

That’s rather close to a conspiracy theory. Please elaborate.

Oh, come on. In your world lobbyists don’t exist?

264 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:13:33pm

re: #229 Racer X

Obama has his share of gaffes, but Sarah has him beat by a mile.

Reality is Sarah has been a HUGE disappointment, and Obama has been somewhat of a surprise in the fact that he has made a few decisions that I actually agree with. A few. Not a lot.

As he sucks and blows at the same time,
As he reverses course with the slightest breeze,
As he tries to be all things to all people…
He is bound to agree with everyone and anyone for a moment or two.

265 Racer X  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:13:37pm

re: #252 WindUpBird

I characterize Obama as a moderate Democrat. I figured that’s how he’d govern, and I’m not surprised, that’s what I voted for.

Obama has had his share of issues and mistakes.

I’d still give him a “C” on his report card.

266 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:13:40pm

re: #257 Sheepdogess

Very deep stuff.

I agree, the Mojoverse is very complicated :D

267 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:13:43pm

re: #256 Racer X

You are mad fer realz that I don’t love Obama?


This comment - I can’t link, as well.

RacerX:
Palin + Beck + Tea Partiers = 8 years of Obama.

Guaranteed.

Thanks a fucking lot wingnuts.

268 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:13:44pm

re: #259 WindUpBird

Oh cripes.

The problem is they ruined Warlock. (Douglock my ass).

Original Warlock > Spiral > everyone else.

(I know a ton about 80’s xmen, sadly :P)

269 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:13:49pm

re: #240 windsagio

you know how it is, sometimes we get tired of the hearing the same name for the same logical fallacy over and over and over and over and over and over.

you yourself are guilty of that, which is exactly my point, thanks….beyond that I subtly breech the profiling angle in terms of prevention and am immediately dismissed…so their ideology has been established…cool…what more is there to say that isn’t in fact redundant?…it’s a constant boring slamfest here…I’m into solutions

270 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:14:15pm

re: #265 Racer X

Obama has had his share of issues and mistakes.

I’d still give him a “C” on his report card.

I’d give him a B, so we’re really not that far off :D

271 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:14:28pm

re: #269 albusteve

+ for irony :D

272 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:14:40pm

re: #268 windsagio

Oh cripes.

The problem is they ruined Warlock. (Douglock my ass).

Original Warlock > Spiral > everyone else.

(I know a ton about 80’s xmen, sadly :P)

Douglock is HILARIOUS but yes, they ruined him. :D

273 Racer X  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:15:15pm

re: #267 Stanley Sea

This comment - I can’t link, as well.

RacerX:
Palin + Beck + Tea Partiers = 8 years of Obama.

Guaranteed.

Thanks a fucking lot wingnuts.

Ah. got it, thanks!

*still a blind squirrel.

274 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:15:17pm

re: #272 WindUpBird

Dude, who was the artist who drew the new mutants for a while, and made them cool?

Really loose, scratchy art style.

275 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:15:59pm

re: #254 windsagio

oh c’mon steve, I didn’t say that at all.

I’m into hunting these people down…I don’t really give a shit if they are left or right…I suppose there is some merit in that, fine…now what do we do?

276 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:16:02pm

re: #273 Racer X

Ah. got it, thanks!

*still a blind squirrel.

With pride.

277 austin_blue  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:16:03pm

re: #213 windsagio

Yeah yeah I know ‘the left is just as bad’

Wasn’t there a term for the kind of ‘logic’ that’s being used here? I think its in latin… right on the tip of my tongue…

Ignoratio Elenchi. Greek.

278 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:16:20pm

re: #274 windsagio

nevermind:

Bill Sienkiewicz

279 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:17:07pm

re: #263 Cato the Elder

Oh, come on. In your world lobbyists don’t exist?

she’s on someones dime, no question…to think otherwise is folly

280 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:17:12pm

re: #275 albusteve

If we acknowledge that for these kind of crimes, political leaning is an important piece of information, we have no reason to disagree :p

281 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:17:18pm

re: #263 Cato the Elder

Oh, come on. In your world lobbyists don’t exist?

I would characterize it like this:

Palin’s sorta like the rock star that the record label can’t keep under control, who keeps throwing all the hotel furniture out the window at every tour stop. The record label being the lobbyists and GOP operatives exerting influence on her.

282 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:17:30pm

re: #274 windsagio

Dude, who was the artist who drew the new mutants for a while, and made them cool?

Really loose, scratchy art style.

Bill S

283 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:17:43pm

re: #281 WindUpBird

But did she Fuck a fish in Seattle?

284 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:18:15pm

re: #283 windsagio

who did that, must learn.

285 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:18:31pm

re: #274 windsagio

Dude, who was the artist who drew the new mutants for a while, and made them cool?

Really loose, scratchy art style.

Bill S (last name is Sienciewicz….can’t spell it) is IMHO, the greatest superhero artist besides Kirby. :D

286 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:18:34pm

re: #271 windsagio

+ for irony :D

I never labled anyone…stuff your silly irony

287 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:18:36pm

re: #284 Stanley Sea

I think it was led zepplin, looking it up.

288 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:18:59pm

re: #284 Stanley Sea

who did that, must learn.

there’s a statue in Des Moines, WA of a dude handling a fish with breasts :D

289 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:19:05pm

re: #287 windsagio

You know, it sounds familiar. Thank you for looking, I refrained.

290 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:19:20pm

re: #267 Stanley Sea

This comment - I can’t link, as well.

RacerX:
Palin + Beck + Tea Partiers = 8 years of Obama.

Guaranteed.

Thanks a fucking lot wingnuts.

That does assume that she is more than just a gadfly now. The RNC would be fools to put her up as a candidate. The QUITTER label is too easy to invoke against her and it should be obvious that it makes her unelectable for POTUS. I don’t see anything being done to blunt that criticism of her.

291 Racer X  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:19:31pm

re: #270 WindUpBird

I’d give him a B, so we’re really not that far off :D

Yeah I don’t hate the guy - never did. I had some serious concerns. He did NOT abandon Iraq in his first year. He has stepped up in Afghanistan. He has left Gitmo intact for now.

The results of his economic policies are still up in the air.

292 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:19:36pm

re: #264 Spare O’Lake

As he sucks and blows at the same time,
As he reverses course with the slightest breeze,
As he tries to be all things to all people…
He is bound to agree with everyone and anyone for a moment or two.

In the alternate universe, your post says:

As he plows blindly ahead
As he ignores everyone and everything
Unwavering delusions of omnipotence
What a megalomaniac!
293 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:19:52pm

re: #280 windsagio

If we acknowledge that for these kind of crimes, political leaning is an important piece of information, we have no reason to disagree :p

yes, that’s been established, so what’s your point?….reiteration?

294 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:20:01pm

re: #263 Cato the Elder

Oh, come on. In your world lobbyists don’t exist?

Yes, but that does not mean they run her. I think WUB has the right of it:

re: #281 WindUpBird

I would characterize it like this:

Palin’s sorta like the rock star that the record label can’t keep under control, who keeps throwing all the hotel furniture out the window at every tour stop. The record label being the lobbyists and GOP operatives exerting influence on her.

295 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:20:03pm

re: #291 Racer X

Yeah I don’t hate the guy - never did. I had some serious concerns. He did NOT abandon Iraq in his first year. He has stepped up in Afghanistan. He has left Gitmo intact for now.

The results of his economic policies are still up in the air.

agreed!

296 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:20:04pm

re: #288 WindUpBird

there’s a statue in Des Moines, WA of a dude handling a fish with breasts :D

fishmilk… it’s the new koolaid. :)

297 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:20:47pm

re: #293 albusteve

My point is that someone else earlier was fighting that idea (or more specifically insisting that we didn’t hold that idea) tooth and nail.

You just jumped in like you always do :D

298 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:20:51pm

re: #296 brookly red

fishmilk… it’s the new koolaid. :)

BASSOMATIC!

299 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:21:12pm

re: #281 WindUpBird

I would characterize it like this:

Palin’s sorta like the rock star that the record label can’t keep under control, who keeps throwing all the hotel furniture out the window at every tour stop. The record label being the lobbyists and GOP operatives exerting influence on her.

Sarah Palin: The Courtney Love of politics.

Makes sense, I guess.

300 Cato the Elder  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:21:20pm

re: #281 WindUpBird

I would characterize it like this:

Palin’s sorta like the rock star that the record label can’t keep under control, who keeps throwing all the hotel furniture out the window at every tour stop. The record label being the lobbyists and GOP operatives exerting influence on her.

I think the record label expects the rock-star to throw furniture out of the window. It’s part of the act, it draws the crowds, it gets him in the tabloids, and up goes the bottom line.

I think the GOP and the lobbyists are getting exactly what they’re paying for - incitement to civil unrest. I think they do a little jig every time someone like Rep. Lewis gets spat on.

301 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:21:30pm

re: #264 Spare O’Lake

As he sucks and blows at the same time,
As he reverses course with the slightest breeze,
As he tries to be all things to all people…
He is bound to agree with everyone and anyone for a moment or two.

so what you’re saying is you don’t like the president

302 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:21:36pm

Found it:

Its gross

303 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:21:51pm

re: #279 albusteve

she’s on someones dime, no question…to think otherwise is folly

It looks more like she’s getting Hollywood agent-style managers, not political whizzes. Even the most cynical (rational) pol knows she isn’t going to DC unless we sign a Versailles Treaty with Bin Laden.

304 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:22:20pm

re: #301 WindUpBird

so what you’re saying is you don’t like the president

/but that is not possible…

305 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:22:28pm

re: #300 Cato the Elder

I think the record label expects the rock-star to throw furniture out of the window. It’s part of the act, it draws the crowds, it gets him in the tabloids, and up goes the bottom line.

I think the GOP and the lobbyists are getting exactly what they’re paying for - incitement to civil unrest. I think they do a little jig every time someone like Rep. Lewis gets spat on.

Wellll…I think they wanted a LITTLE of that? and they got a whole bunch of it.

306 austin_blue  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:22:33pm

re: #264 Spare O’Lake

As he sucks and blows at the same time,
As he reverses course with the slightest breeze,
As he tries to be all things to all people…
He is bound to agree with everyone and anyone for a moment or two.

Seems to me he’s been pretty on point this first year. Health care reform first. Financial reform next. Energy policy third.

307 swamprat  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:22:43pm

The lgf weather shows a light cool wind coming in from the left, which will meet up with the hot air blowing in from the right. There is a strong chance of partisan participation with a 20% chance of rhetoric, followed by the chanting of overused talking points. Trollcast is minimal, with a .05 chance of a 3am floor soiling or a past expiration dead-thread soiling. Flouncing will be light, unless a topical storm comes up unexpectedly.

308 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:22:46pm

re: #304 brookly red

*joke ahead*

Not by smart people anyways :D

*joke over, return to normal programming*

309 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:22:54pm

re: #300 Cato the Elder

I think the record label expects the rock-star to throw furniture out of the window. It’s part of the act, it draws the crowds, it gets him in the tabloids, and up goes the bottom line.

I think the GOP and the lobbyists are getting exactly what they’re paying for - incitement to civil unrest. I think they do a little jig every time someone like Rep. Lewis gets spat on.

Why would they want civil unrest? That’s a pretty severe allegation, Cato. You’ll need to show proof.

310 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:23:14pm

re: #297 windsagio

My point is that someone else earlier was fighting that idea (or more specifically insisting that we didn’t hold that idea) tooth and nail.

You just jumped in like you always do :D

jumping in is what this blog is for….you have no solutions to the problem, which is why I jumped in…to see what others thought…stupid me, you still are stuck on ideology when I tried to move beyond that….so what’s up with Sarah these days?….anything outrageous?

311 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:23:20pm

OK, I looked

The Shark Episode:

The Shark episode or Mudshark incident was an alleged event which took place at the Edgewater Inn in Seattle, Washington, on 28 July 1969, involving Richard Cole, a road manager for English rock band Led Zeppelin, and members of the American psychedelic rock band Vanilla Fudge. The bands were in Seattle for their appearance at the Seattle Pop Festival at Gold Creek Park on 27 July 1969,[1] and were staying at the Edgewater Inn. This hotel, now known as the Edgewater Hotel, is located directly on Puget Sound, and at the time allowed guests to fish directly from their room windows.[2]
The Edgewater Hotel on Elliott Bay. Guests were once allowed to fish from the windows.

The Shark episode is alleged to have involved some type of sexual act with a fish. However, there are many variations on the story, all involving one or some of the band members, as well as variations of the type of fish (often claimed to be a shark or mudshark), and the nature of the acts performed.

Read further on Wiki.

312 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:23:41pm

re: #298 WindUpBird

BASSOMATIC!

heh…a classic

313 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:23:57pm

re: #308 windsagio

*joke ahead*

Not by smart people anyways :D

*joke over, return to normal programming*

well you are programed for sure, but I wouldn’t be quick to call it normal.

314 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:24:04pm

re: #307 swamprat

Very good.

315 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:24:22pm

re: #312 albusteve

heh…a classic

I grew up with the old, awesome SNL, Chevy Chase pratfalls and Buckwheat assassinations

316 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:24:32pm

re: #302 windsagio

Found it:

Its gross

Oh Jackie. Where is she now?

317 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:24:37pm

re: #310 albusteve

I like your new angle steve, its more interesting than the old schtick.

I’m not saying that you’ve put anything remotely accurate into that post, but at least its something new!

318 Aceofwhat?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:24:41pm

re: #298 WindUpBird

BASSOMATIC!

after 3 or 4 bass…it gets to be quite a rush!

319 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:24:47pm

re: #315 WindUpBird

I grew up with the old, awesome SNL, Chevy Chase pratfalls and Buckwheat assassinations

(by growing up I mean that I had them all on tape via my parents, who thought they were genius)

320 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:25:15pm

re: #315 WindUpBird

I grew up with the old, awesome SNL, Chevy Chase pratfalls and Buckwheat assassinations

Buckwheat lives…

321 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:25:29pm

re: #315 WindUpBird

It is a seattle imperative to say that Almost Live! was always better.

322 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:26:06pm

re: #303 Decatur Deb

It looks more like she’s getting Hollywood agent-style managers, not political whizzes. Even the most cynical (rational) pol knows she isn’t going to DC unless we sign a Versailles Treaty with Bin Laden.

maybe her publisher has her in their grip…her aspiration at this point, seems to me, is copping maximum exposure….spit…I really don’t give a fuck about her….another Beckbot

323 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:26:32pm

re: #315 WindUpBird

I grew up with the old, awesome SNL, Chevy Chase pratfalls and Buckwheat assassinations

So buy Mutual Insurance, because you could die tomorrow. Just like Jonathon David Stutz.

Buckwheat’s assassination was one of the best bits ever.

324 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:27:13pm

re: #322 albusteve

Yeah—the lady was born to be a footnote.

325 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:27:42pm

re: #315 WindUpBird

I grew up with the old, awesome SNL, Chevy Chase pratfalls and Buckwheat assassinations

I did too….I’m no expert, but it seems that show was never that good again…killer bands, S Martin on the rise…nobody was a super star yet….good times

326 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:28:17pm

re: #167 brookly red

OK, so let’s put a D or an R next to every name in the daily police blotter… oh that will be so helpful.

I agree, we should be like you and just make idiotic assumptions, such as that gay bashing in politically liberal leaning districts is being carried out by liberals:

so how in NYC the most liberal of places do so many anti gay attacks happen? What do you think we bus wingnuts in from Texas to take care of our gay problem?

327 Cato the Elder  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:28:32pm

re: #309 Dark_Falcon

Why would they want civil unrest? That’s a pretty severe allegation, Cato. You’ll need to show proof.

I think Charles has been showing us some pretty compelling proof over the last few weeks. The lack of high-level GOPers standing up and calling out the teabaggers and others who are actively fomenting civil unrest being item number one.

It’s not an allegation, it’s a direct, open accusation, and I stand by it.

328 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:28:51pm

re: #307 swamprat

The lgf weather shows a light cool wind coming in from the left, which will meet up with the hot air blowing in from the right. There is a strong chance of partisan participation with a 20% chance of rhetoric, followed by the chanting of overused talking points. Trollcast is minimal, with a .05 chance of a 3am floor soiling or a past expiration dead-thread soiling. Flouncing will be light, unless a topical storm comes up unexpectedly.

Well, Charles did have an open registration today, so I have to disagree with the Trollcast. (Hoping for roasted gamy buttocks, later!)

329 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:28:52pm

re: #325 albusteve

I did too…I’m no expert, but it seems that show was never that good again…killer bands, S Martin on the rise…nobody was a super star yet…good times

They have been really good at politics, during election time the last few go rounds.

330 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:30:15pm

re: #328 Floral Giraffe

Well, Charles did have an open registration today, so I have to disagree with the Trollcast. (Hoping for roasted gamy buttocks, later!)

I’ve got charcoal ready to go.

331 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:30:50pm

re: #326 goddamnedfrank

frank, I just want you to take comfort in the knowledge that there are ten’s of millions of us… have a nice day.

332 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:30:52pm

re: #327 Cato the Elder

I think Charles has been showing us some pretty compelling proof over the last few weeks. The lack of high-level GOPers standing up and calling out the teabaggers and others who are actively fomenting civil unrest being item number one.

It’s not an allegation, it’s a direct, open accusation, and I stand by it.

you contemptuous snot!
pool noodles at dawn!

333 Racer X  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:31:17pm

re: #330 Dark_Falcon

I’ve got charcoal ready to go.

You want I should throw out some bait?

Ron Paul!

334 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:31:57pm

re: #333 Racer X

You want I should throw out some bait?

Ron Paul!

we did that already…

335 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:32:19pm

re: #332 albusteve

you contemptuous snot!
pool noodles at dawn!

Pool noodles at dawn?
I want the shallow end!
LOL!

336 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:32:38pm

re: #321 windsagio

It is a seattle imperative to say that Almost Live! was always better.

That’s why I left Seattle, all the bullshit self deception.

337 HoosierHoops  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:33:19pm

Well Crap American Idol sucks as usual this year..Let’s talk tech lizards
I think in a few years the Avatar is going to change on blogs..
You know that cute little picture by your nic…It will evolve..
Who knows.. A video clip of your cat running around…You shooting off a BF Gun..Anything..You’re favorite…
I think the Avatar concept has potential in the future…In the 90’s Cambridge University came up with the Concept of personal agents on the web.. That could be your avatar..It protects the gateway to access..Does your research, Brings you your morning newspaper in the in-box…
Click on an interactive avatar at LGF and you have Video, Agents, Security, email and links…
Blogs are the future in tying together media, phones, communications, web interactions, tweeter and social sites…
Avatar agents will deliver on demand every post of whoever you tag..

338 swamprat  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:33:21pm

No fair salting the thread.

Immigration amnesty

339 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:33:32pm

re: #336 goddamnedfrank

Lol I hate you.

Seriously, the SNL of that era was pretty crappy :p

340 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:33:40pm

re: #302 windsagio

Found it:

Its gross

Zappa’s “Mudshark” only gets a single sentence? Shameful!

There’s a motel in Seattle, Washington, called the Edgewater Inn. The Edgewater Inn is built out on a pier, so that means that when you look out your window you don’t see any dirt, it’s got a bay or something out in your backyard.

And to make it even more interesting, in the lobby of the aforementioned motel there’s a bait and tackle shop where the residents can go down and, whenever they want to, rent a fishing pole and some preserved minnows and schlep back up to their rooms, open the window, stick their little pole outside and within a few minutes actually catch a fish of some sort that they can bring into their motel room and do whatever they want with it, you know what I mean?

Now in this bay there’s quite a variety of fish! Not only do they have mud sharks up there, they got little octopusses that you can catch. And all of these denizens of the deep can come in real handy.

Let’s say you were a traveling Rock and Roll band called The Vanilla Fudge. Let’s say one night you checked into the Edgewater Inn with an 8mm movie camera. Enough money to rent a pole, and just to make it more interesting, a succulent young lady, with a taste for the bizarre.

My mind drifts back… to a meeting, a chance meeting in the Chicago O’Hare Airport…

Where the members of The Vanilla Fudge told Don Preston about a home movie they made at the Edgewater Inn… with a mud shark!

And I’m gonna tell you, this dance, the Mud Shark, is sweeping the ocean!

So it goes.

341 austin_blue  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:33:40pm

re: #309 Dark_Falcon

Why would they want civil unrest? That’s a pretty severe allegation, Cato. You’ll need to show proof.

Energize. The. New. Base.

What other chance do they have? They are apologists for the Teabaggers. It’s truly pitiful. You know, I’ve always been a Scoop Jackson Dem. I’m ex-Military, raised in a Marine Corps family (Ooh-rah!), and socially liberal. I can’t believe what the R’s have become since they have purged themselves of similar minded centrists who worked with centrist D’s such as myself on sane public policy. Now they are tacitly embracing, especially their media surrogates, Hatriots.

Pitiful. Scary. Stupid. But it might work.

342 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:33:51pm

re: #329 Stanley Sea

They have been really good at politics, during election time the last few go rounds.

“Jane, you slut”
that was something back then…I don’t discount what they do now…I’ve not seen much of it over the years

343 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:34:35pm

re: #333 Racer X

You want I should throw out some bait?

Ron Paul!

We’ll be trying something different today. We’ll be doing an open pit for BBQing tonight’s troll. So make sure there’s plenty of sauce because it takes a lot to baste a whole troll.

344 swamprat  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:34:56pm

re: #339 windsagio

Blasphemy will not be tolerated.

345 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:35:29pm

re: #342 albusteve

“Jane, you slut”
that was something back then…I don’t discount what they do now…I’ve not seen much of it over the years

Mr. Robinson’s neighborhood was pretty good too.

346 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:36:07pm

re: #333 Racer X

You want I should throw out some bait?

Ron Paul!

Boy—I say, boy, you’re doing it all wrong! Now this is bait:

It is sometimes difficult to understand why Mr. [Saul] Alinsky fights to remove human beings from slums, since it is so very clear that his hatred for the slums is exceeded only by his hatred for those who have moved out of them.
— William F. Buckley, 1966

347 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:36:36pm

re: #336 goddamnedfrank

That’s why I left Seattle, all the bullshit self deception.

hahahahahaha

I did love Almost Live! For a locak show with no budget, it was amazing. Also, they had Soundgarden doing the Lame List before they were big. :D

348 uninformed opinion  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:36:42pm

re: #309 Dark_Falcon

Why would they want civil unrest? That’s a pretty severe allegation, Cato. You’ll need to show proof.

Because it is politically expedient and effective. I know that there is a lock of proof, but honestly, the actions of many republican politicians have directly or indirectly stoked the fire.

349 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:36:46pm

re: #345 Stanley Sea

Mr. Robinson’s neighborhood was pretty good too.

YES

350 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:36:58pm

re: #345 Stanley Sea

Mr. Robinson’s neighborhood was pretty good too.

yup, it was all pretty good and some of it was just hilarious…I always like the music too…some legendary gigs

351 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:37:12pm

re: #342 albusteve

“Jane, you slut”
that was something back then…I don’t discount what they do now…I’ve not seen much of it over the years

Dan Ackroyd back when he kicked ass

352 Sheepdogess  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:38:22pm

Any Lawyers here tonight?
I have questions.

353 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:38:29pm

re: #337 HoosierHoops

Well Crap American Idol sucks as usual this year..Let’s talk tech lizards
I think in a few years the Avatar is going to change on blogs..
You know that cute little picture by your nic…It will evolve..
Who knows.. A video clip of your cat running around…You shooting off a BF Gun..Anything..You’re favorite…
I think the Avatar concept has potential in the future…In the 90’s Cambridge University came up with the Concept of personal agents on the web.. That could be your avatar..It protects the gateway to access..Does your research, Brings you your morning newspaper in the in-box…
Click on an interactive avatar at LGF and you have Video, Agents, Security, email and links…
Blogs are the future in tying together media, phones, communications, web interactions, tweeter and social sites…
Avatar agents will deliver on demand every post of whoever you tag..

I’d love to be able to use an animated avatar here, like I have elsewhere.

354 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:38:36pm

re: #167 brookly red

OK, so let’s put a D or an R next to every name in the daily police blotter… oh that will be so helpful.

While we’re at it let’s put their religious affiliation and favorite football team there too…

//

355 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:39:13pm

re: #351 WindUpBird

Dan Ackroyd back when he kicked ass

oh well, times change and Gilda is long gone now…the stars are burned out and everybody has moved on

356 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:39:32pm

re: #346 The Sanity Inspector

Boy—I say, boy, you’re doing it all wrong! Now this is bait:

It is sometimes difficult to understand why Mr. [Saul] Alinsky fights to remove human beings from slums, since it is so very clear that his hatred for the slums is exceeded only by his hatred for those who have moved out of them.
— William F. Buckley, 1966

now you went and hurt some feelings…

357 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:40:08pm

re: #355 albusteve

oh well, times change and Gilda is long gone now…the stars are burned out and everybody has moved on


Well, we have new ones! Chappelle’s Show IMHO is as good as SNL in its prime, though it didn’t last long.

358 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:40:16pm

re: #337 HoosierHoops

In the future, avatar is watching YOU.

359 brookly red  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:40:37pm

re: #354 oaktree

While we’re at it let’s put their religious affiliation and favorite football team there too…

//

don’t forget astrological sign….

360 Aceofwhat?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:40:42pm

re: #329 Stanley Sea

They have been really good at politics, during election time the last few go rounds.

i actually think the current cast is pretty funny. Kristen Wiig is particularly hilarious.

361 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:40:58pm

re: #354 oaktree

While we’re at it let’s put their religious affiliation and favorite football team there too…

//

“no Cowboy fan would do such a thing!”….the Eagles fans, on the other hand, are quite capable of overt evilness

362 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:41:17pm

re: #360 Aceofwhat?

i actually think the current cast is pretty funny. Kristen Wiig is particularly hilarious.

I haven’t watched in awhile, but loved the Target lady.

363 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:41:23pm

re: #351 WindUpBird

Dan Ackroyd back when he kicked ass

364 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:41:47pm

re: #345 Stanley Sea

Mr. Robinson’s neighborhood was pretty good too.

Mr Rogers was not to be mocked. Ask Burger King.

365 Racer X  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:41:53pm

re: #352 Sheepdogess

Any Lawyers here tonight?
I have questions.

Bleach. Lots of bleach. A shovel, masking tape, lots of painters plastic, and a…

366 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:42:33pm

re: #356 brookly red

now you went and hurt some feelings…

I found a trove of WFB quotations from the 50s and 60s. Most of them are now stale, overtaken by events, turned out to be wrong, etc. But some still have some relevance. I’ll be posting more later.

367 swamprat  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:42:42pm

re: #356 brookly red

now you went and hurt some feelings…

We will have Clean Coal Technology;

From the coal companies I have deliberately bankrupted.
368 Cato the Elder  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:43:00pm

re: #342 albusteve

“Jane, you slut”
that was something back then…I don’t discount what they do now…I’ve not seen much of it over the years

I think you left out an important adjective there.

Tina Fey: “Sarah, you slut…”

Sarah Palin: “That’s ignorant slut to you, Tina, you bitch…”

LOL. Palin goin’ all classic SNL on Tina Fey…now that’s something I would pay to see.

Too bad about her bein’ so ignorant and all…

369 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:43:01pm

re: #357 WindUpBird

Well, we have new ones! Chappelle’s Show IMHO is as good as SNL in its prime, though it didn’t last long.

I guess I was speaking my own sentiment…I’ve moved on, but I hope there is that sort of talent someday for younger people…it was a cool time in many ways

370 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:44:38pm

re: #368 Cato the Elder

I think you left out an important adjective there.

Tina Fey: “Sarah, you slut…”

Sarah Palin: “That’s ignorant slut to you, Tina, you bitch…”

LOL. Palin goin’ all classic SNL on Tina Fey…now that’s something I would pay to see.

Too bad about her bein’ so ignorant and all…

oh man, you’re right…it was ‘ignorant’ slut…I blew that one

371 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:46:01pm

re: #301 WindUpBird

so what you’re saying is you don’t like the president

I am most distressed with the way he pays lip service to Israel’s security needs in one breath, while savaging and bullying her in the next breath.

372 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:46:32pm

re: #357 WindUpBird

Well, we have new ones! Chappelle’s Show IMHO is as good as SNL in its prime, though it didn’t last long.

One of the enduring fixtures of SNL is how much it sucks now, compared to how it used to be. No matter what year it is, someone is always pining for the way it used to be. I remember watching an episode when the show wasn’t five years old. They had the first head writer, Michael O’Donoghue, come back for a guest skit. In it, he jibed about how the show had gone downhill since he left, to much applause from the studio audience.

373 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:47:18pm

re: #331 brookly red

frank, I just want you to take comfort in the knowledge that there are ten’s of millions of us… have a nice day.

Yeah, but you’re a disjointed group of posturing deliberately ignorant tools, with wildly disparate ideologies and the only similarity apparently being that none of you ever learned how to share. I do take comfort in that.

374 Cato the Elder  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:47:31pm

re: #341 austin_blue

Energize. The. New. Base.

[…] Now they are tacitly embracing, especially their media surrogates, Hatriots.

Pitiful. Scary. Stupid. But it might work.

It very well might.

375 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:50:14pm

re: #368 Cato the Elder

I think you left out an important adjective there.

Tina Fey: “Sarah, you slut…”

Sarah Palin: “That’s ignorant slut to you, Tina, you bitch…”

LOL. Palin goin’ all classic SNL on Tina Fey…now that’s something I would pay to see.

Too bad about her bein’ so ignorant and all…

Well, can we at least get their fight to be in bikinis, preferable with a mud pool near to hand.

//

376 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:50:43pm

re: #373 goddamnedfrank

Yeah, but you’re a disjointed group of posturing deliberately ignorant tools, with wildly disparate ideologies and the only similarity apparently being that none of you ever learned how to share. I do take comfort in that.

We know how to share. We also know how not to steal. There is a difference.

377 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:50:44pm

re: #374 Cato the Elder

It very well might.

I think it is/will…people are going to have some choices to make soon, and millions of flyover folks just have no clue…I expect the worst, as usual…I’m rarely disappointed

378 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:51:28pm

re: #376 The Sanity Inspector

We know how to share. We also know how not to steal. There is a difference.

“she could steal.
but she could not rob”
PM

379 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:51:37pm

re: #377 albusteve

Lucky bastard. I’m usually disappointed.

380 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:52:40pm

re: #339 windsagio

Lol I hate you.

Seriously, the SNL of that era was pretty crappy :p

Three words, Massive Headwound Harry (link goes to Hulu)

381 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:53:30pm
382 HoosierHoops  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:53:30pm

re: #358 Decatur Deb

In the future, avatar is watching YOU.

I think programmable agents are the wave of the future…
My Avatar is a blogging agent…If I want to know every post my fav person puts on the web everyday..It’s there on my cell phone
My Avatar is my gateway..And provides net security…You have to get through my agent’s security before you get to me..
Avatar brings me my favorite newspapers on demand while I drink my coffee and have links to my favorite writers…
My Avatar researches Technical articles for me and highlighted applicable parts ..
My Avatar has access to Oracle Database….
The potential is endless

383 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:53:35pm

hahaha looks like Brown just will not drop his bald-faced psychotic lie about Rachel Maddow running against him: [Link: www.postchronicle.com…]

What a little slimebag! Transparent fundraising sleaziness, gotta love it.

384 Aceofwhat?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:53:41pm

re: #373 goddamnedfrank

Yeah, but you’re a disjointed group of posturing deliberately ignorant tools, with wildly disparate ideologies and the only similarity apparently being that none of you ever learned how to share. I do take comfort in that.

who is “you”?

385 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:53:45pm

re: #380 goddamnedfrank

That would be a great nic.

386 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:54:11pm

re: #379 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Lucky bastard. I’m usually disappointed.

the reverse gator!

387 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:54:48pm

re: #378 albusteve

“she could steal.
but she could not rob”
PM

388 Racer X  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:54:50pm

Where’d all the newbies go?

389 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:55:07pm

re: #382 HoosierHoops

Hoops! Did you see “Surrogates”?

390 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:55:40pm

re: #388 Racer X

Where’d all the newbies go?

Long time passing…

391 jaunte  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:55:45pm

Here are some fun letters to get from your representatives.
(pdfs at link)


Energy & Commerce Subcommittee to Hold Hearing on Impact of Health Care Reform Law on Large Employers
Chairman Waxman and Subcommittee Chairman Stupak sent a letter to the Chief Executive Officers of Caterpillar, Verizon, Deere and others requesting their testimony at the hearing as well as information and documentation from each company on the law’s projected impact.


[Link: energycommerce.house.gov…]

392 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:55:46pm

re: #387 The Sanity Inspector

[Video]

too late
neener neener!
Poly Pam is awsome tho
I’ll open it

393 HoosierHoops  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:55:50pm

re: #389 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hoops! Did you see “Surrogates”?

No I didn’t…

394 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:55:57pm

re: #371 Spare O’Lake

I am most distressed with the way he pays lip service to Israel’s security needs in one breath, while savaging and bullying her in the next breath.

I can’t help but notice there are people who are quite knowledgable about Israel on this blog who disagree with you!

as for me, I don’t know enough about Israel and Palestine to engage about it. I’m mostly a domestic policy burd. Domestic policy concerns primarily dictate who I vote for.

395 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:56:32pm

re: #306 austin_blue

Seems to me he’s been pretty on point this first year. Health care reform first. Financial reform next. Energy policy third.

Obama spent his entire first year watering down HCR to the point where the bill that was finally passed satisfied no one and the best that could be said by even his strongest supporters was that it was barely better than passing nothing at all. As for the rest, forgive me if I prefer to wait and see exactly what if anything gets done.

396 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:56:45pm

re: #375 Dark_Falcon

Well, can we at least get their fight to be in bikinis, preferable with a mud pool near to hand.

//

Jello’d be better. IMHO!

397 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:57:01pm

re: #388 Racer X

Where’d all the newbies go?

They still have meatspace lives.

398 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:57:08pm

re: #382 HoosierHoops

I’m a lefty. My damn avatar will probably go on strike.

399 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:57:14pm

re: #395 Spare O’Lake

Obama spent his entire first year watering down HCR to the point where the bill that was finally passed satisfied no one and the best that could be said by even his strongest supporters was that it was barely better than passing nothing at all. As for the rest, forgive me if I prefer to wait and see exactly what if anything gets done.

This is flat wrong and you’re making it up.

You’re just making this shit up!

400 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:58:23pm

re: #393 HoosierHoops

Monster cool movie.

401 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 6:59:23pm

re: #390 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Long time passing…

When will they ever learn?

402 austin_blue  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:00:32pm

re: #388 Racer X

Where’d all the newbies go?

I think they are trying to take in the gestalt of the postings, here. Us old time Lizardi have tendency to be somewhat….prickly.

But I agree with the sentiment, so, come on Newbs! Pipe up! If you don’t want to get into the Policy ‘n Shit, at least talk about your favorite/least favorite SNL skits.

Autumn Fizz….The Carbonated Douche…

403 austin_blue  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:01:19pm

re: #391 jaunte

Here are some fun letters to get from your representatives.
(pdfs at link)


[Link: energycommerce.house.gov…]

404 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:01:36pm

the B side of Abby Road is some of the very best, if not the best, tracks every laid down in the rock and roll universe…the Beatles go nuts with Mean Mr Mustered until the End…just fucking awesome…chew on that metal heads

405 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:01:46pm

re: #384 Aceofwhat?

who is “you”?

Maybe the course of the conversation wasn’t clear, I meant assholes like brookly red who use terms like “our gay problem,” when trying to pin gay bashing on liberals. If he means ascribe these attitudes to ” ten’s of millions of ” his friends in an apparent show of force, it is up to others to self identify with that statement, not me. Got it?

406 jaunte  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:01:56pm

re: #403 austin_blue

Yes.

407 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:02:32pm

re: #399 WindUpBird

This is flat wrong and you’re making it up.

You’re just making this shit up!

want a banana?

408 austin_blue  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:03:17pm

re: #391 jaunte

Here are some fun letters to get from your representatives.
(pdfs at link)


[Link: energycommerce.house.gov…]

Think they might be more competitive if they had to to pay 40% less than their overseas competitors do for employee health insurance?

409 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:03:18pm

re: #402 austin_blue

I think they are trying to take in the gestalt of the postings, here. Us old time Lizardi have tendency to be somewhat…prickly.

But I agree with the sentiment, so, come on Newbs! Pipe up! If you don’t want to get into the Policy ‘n Shit, at least talk about your favorite/least favorite SNL skits.

Autumn Fizz…The Carbonated Douche…

I like old muscle cars myself

410 darthstar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:03:33pm

Cool…new episode of “Justified” starting now on FX…I’m beginning to like this show.

411 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:03:49pm

re: #383 WindUpBird

hahaha looks like Brown just will not drop his bald-faced psychotic lie about Rachel Maddow running against him: [Link: www.postchronicle.com…]

What a little slimebag! Transparent fundraising sleaziness, gotta love it.

Hmm, that’s going to come off as being rather nutty. It is a fundraising ploy.

412 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:04:18pm

re: #399 WindUpBird

This is flat wrong and you’re making it up.

You’re just making this shit up!

Quite concur.

(DF)

413 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:04:22pm

re: #402 austin_blue

My favorite SNL fake commercial (since Victoria Jackson was posted recently here) was “Handy Off”…

“Hey, she’s cute. Too bad about those extra fingers…”

414 Aceofwhat?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:04:58pm

re: #405 goddamnedfrank

Maybe the course of the conversation wasn’t clear, I meant assholes like brookly red who use terms like “our gay problem,” when trying to pin gay bashing on liberals. If he means ascribe these attitudes to ” ten’s of millions of ” his friends in an apparent show of force, it is up to others to self identify with that statement, not me. Got it?

i see. that was the point at which the course became unclear. thanks for ‘splaining.

415 darthstar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:05:25pm

re: #399 WindUpBird

She’s just exercising some willful ignorance…let her go.

416 Aceofwhat?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:05:37pm

re: #413 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My favorite SNL fake commercial (since Victoria Jackson was posted recently here) was “Handy Off”…

“Hey, she’s cute. Too bad about those extra fingers…”

“happy fun ball” for me…

417 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:05:49pm

re: #412 Stanley Sea

Quite concur.

(DF)

heh..another stolen utterance

418 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:06:20pm

re: #417 albusteve

heh..another stolen utterance

I’m allowed.

419 jaunte  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:07:16pm

re: #408 austin_blue

Think they might be more competitive if they had to to pay 40% less than their overseas competitors do for employee health insurance?

That would make them more competitive, yes.
I think in the current year they’re having to take a charge because they now have to count a subsidy for retiree health benefits as taxable income.

420 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:07:44pm

re: #410 darthstar

Cool…new episode of “Justified” starting now on FX…I’m beginning to like this show.

Very crowded 9pm CDT hour tonight. New episodes of L&O: Criminal Intent, Southland, and Justified all at the same time. Great stuff.

421 darthstar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:07:47pm

re: #417 albusteve

heh..another stolen utterance

Not stolen, cited. (hence the ‘(DF)’)

422 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:07:48pm

re: #416 Aceofwhat?

Phil Hartman… sigh…

423 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:08:04pm

re: #415 darthstar

She’s just exercising some willful ignorance…let her go.

like you yourself don’t? hahaha!
people have opinions, they don’t always need to be accused of ignorance for them…dork on amigo

424 Racer X  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:08:09pm
425 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:08:31pm

re: #421 darthstar

Not stolen, cited. (hence the ‘(DF)’)

I made that up years ago….big whoop

426 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:09:08pm

re: #394 WindUpBird

I can’t help but notice there are people who are quite knowledgable about Israel on this blog who disagree with you!

as for me, I don’t know enough about Israel and Palestine to engage about it. I’m mostly a domestic policy burd. Domestic policy concerns primarily dictate who I vote for.

OK then.
BTW, even the most ignorant among us knows that Palestine, unlike Israel, is not now and never has been, a sovereign nation.

427 Aceofwhat?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:09:19pm

re: #422 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Phil Hartman… sigh…

he was a genius. and she was a psycho. i miss that guy…

428 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:09:22pm

re: #418 Stanley Sea

I’m allowed.

of course…and I’m pleased for it

429 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:09:45pm

re: #425 albusteve

I made that up years ago…big whoop

And this is where I ask - how’s the cute grandkid doing?? (photos would be nice)

430 bratwurst  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:10:50pm

re: #423 albusteve


people have opinions, they don’t always need to be accused of ignorance for them…dork on amigo

Physician, heal thyself.

431 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:12:22pm
432 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:12:27pm

re: #429 Stanley Sea

And this is where I ask - how’s the cute grandkid doing?? (photos would be nice)

he’s getting bigger!…what’s up with that?…his folks are having a ball with him right now…they are both off work for a while, but my daughter is anxious for him to talk, walk etc…heh, kids…just wait til he meets his heathen grandpa!

433 darthstar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:12:31pm

re: #423 albusteve

like you yourself don’t? hahaha!
people have opinions, they don’t always need to be accused of ignorance for them…dork on amigo

I have nothing against SO’L, but sometimes her zeal to hold the party line causes her to say stupid shit. I do too, sometimes, I admit…but pointing that out (without an example, ya lazy bastard…hell, I could come up with a few from memory) doesn’t diminish the above in the least.

434 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:12:37pm

I’ll be back in an hour.

435 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:14:20pm

re: #433 darthstar

I have nothing against SO’L, but sometimes her zeal to hold the party line causes her to say stupid shit. I do too, sometimes, I admit…but pointing that out (without an example, ya lazy bastard…hell, I could come up with a few from memory) doesn’t diminish the above in the least.

just pointing out that it’s a blog, not conformation test…rock on

436 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:14:27pm

re: #424 Racer X

That’s a little scary.

437 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:15:27pm

re: #399 WindUpBird

This is flat wrong and you’re making it up.

You’re just making this shit up!

Flattery will get you nowhere.

438 darthstar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:15:29pm

re: #435 albusteve

just pointing out that it’s a blog, not conformation test…rock on

Rock on!

439 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:16:06pm

re: #432 albusteve

he’s getting bigger!…what’s up with that?…his folks are having a ball with him right now…they are both off work for a while, but my daughter is anxious for him to talk, walk etc…heh, kids…just wait til he meets his heathen grandpa!

Meeting his heathen Grandpa will be one of the highlights of his life. We all wish we had one.

440 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:16:28pm

re: #438 darthstar

Rock on!


[Video]

shit, and I thought you were gonna post some Humble Pie

441 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:16:40pm

Found at Right Wing Watch

Finally, where you do suppose Republicans are getting all these bizarre ideas about President Obama?

A Harris poll released on March 24 found that a majority of Republican respondents believe that President Obama “is a socialist,” “wants to take away Americans’ right to own guns,” “is a Muslim,” “wants to turn over the sovereignty of the United States to a one world government,” and “has done many things that are unconstitutional.” The findings follow a year of such smears and attacks on Obama by conservatives.

This poll was also covered at Little Green Footballs:

Bad Craziness Dominates GOP
Wingnuts %P% Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 9:26:37 am PDT

John Avlon says this new Harris poll is scary, and that’s probably an understatement. Bad craziness has taken over the right to an appalling degree.

The video.

How Did So Many Republicans End Up Believing Falsehoods About Obama?

442 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:17:48pm

the original Rock On
Humble Pie

Shine On

443 darthstar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:18:33pm

Ha! Just got robo-polled:
“This is survey 2010-22” (or something like that), “do you consider yourself a Tea Party member?”
My response, “Fuck you.”
“Are you a fan of Sarah Palin?”
My response, “Fuck her.”
“This has been survey 2010-22. Thank you.”

444 HoosierHoops  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:18:40pm

re: #442 albusteve

the original Rock On
Humble Pie

[Video]Shine On

I don’t need no doctor Was the best.. IMO

445 Racer X  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:19:03pm

I went to the doctor with fluid on the knee. He told me I wasn’t aiming straight.

446 darthstar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:19:22pm

re: #440 albusteve

Sorry to disappoint you. David Essex popped into my head first.

447 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:19:31pm

re: #444 HoosierHoops

I don’t need no doctor Was the best.. IMO

Big George is in the house!

448 austin_blue  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:20:10pm

re: #395 Spare O’Lake

Obama spent his entire first year watering down HCR to the point where the bill that was finally passed satisfied no one and the best that could be said by even his strongest supporters was that it was barely better than passing nothing at all. As for the rest, forgive me if I prefer to wait and see exactly what if anything gets done.

Sorry, I must disagree, rather strenuously:

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

That’s a lot of meat on them bones.

449 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:20:20pm

re: #441 Gus 802

I still wonder exactly where this is coming from. Is there a collective unconscious which drives certain people to these conclusions or are these coming out of some think tank somewhere? Maybe a bit of both.

450 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:20:41pm

re: #446 darthstar

Sorry to disappoint you. David Essex popped into my head first.

I listen to new stuff…but it’s no secret that I worship at the alter of the original cats that paved the way

451 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:20:45pm

re: #433 darthstar

I have nothing against SO’L, but sometimes her zeal to hold the party line causes her to say stupid shit. I do too, sometimes, I admit…but pointing that out (without an example, ya lazy bastard…hell, I could come up with a few from memory) doesn’t diminish the above in the least.

If you are going to slander me, at least get my sex right, ya goof.

452 darthstar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:21:22pm

re: #450 albusteve

I listen to new stuff…but it’s no secret that I worship at the alter of the original cats that paved the way

On the subject of music, we are united.

453 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:22:18pm

Big George
wook ouuut!

454 What, me worry?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:22:38pm

re: #448 austin_blue

Sorry, I must disagree, rather strenuously:

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

That’s a lot of meat on them bones.

I haven’t marked a favorite in awhile, but that was certainly deserving. Thanks, Austin!

455 Racer X  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:23:05pm

re: #451 Spare O’Lake

If you are going to slander me, at least get my sex gender right, ya goof.

/fixed.

Because “at least get my sex right” sounds just a little kinky.

456 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:23:58pm

re: #429 Stanley Sea

And this is where I ask - how’s the cute grandkid doing?? (photos would be nice)

How’s that cutey-grandkidey stuff workin out for ya?
///

457 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:24:36pm

re: #449 Killgore Trout

I still wonder exactly where this is coming from. Is there a collective unconscious which drives certain people to these conclusions or are these coming out of some think tank somewhere? Maybe a bit of both.

I think it’s a matter of group think. They listen to the same radio programs, read the same blogs, and read the same magazines. Since they are part of this group peer pressure also plays a part when they interact as friends. The you have the natural conspiracy type personalities of Dick Morris, Glenn Beck, G Gordon Liddy, Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, Sean Hannity, etc. I would call it a result of a collective conscious since I believe they’re consciously engaging in this rhetoric.

458 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:24:52pm

re: #452 darthstar

On the subject of music, we are united.

I respect my elders, here at LGF and elsewhere…especially the sonic world of rhyme, rhythm, and harmony

459 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:24:59pm

re: #443 darthstar

Ha! Just got robo-polled:
“This is survey 2010-22” (or something like that), “do you consider yourself a Tea Party member?”
My response, “Fuck you.”
“Are you a fan of Sarah Palin?”
My response, “Fuck her.”
“This has been survey 2010-22. Thank you.”

Made my night. Glad to know you Darth.

460 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:25:17pm

re: #448 austin_blue

Obama himself stated that the bill was only a first step and that it desperately needed to be substantially amended and expanded.

461 Aceofwhat?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:25:55pm

re: #455 Racer X

/fixed.

Because “at least get my sex right” sounds just a little kinky.

nah. i updinged it for all the right and wrong reasons/

462 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:26:07pm

re: #448 austin_blue

Sorry, I must disagree, rather strenuously:

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

That’s a lot of meat on them bones.

But that’s teh evul New York Times!111!!!

//

463 darthstar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:27:18pm

re: #451 Spare O’Lake

If you are going to slander me, at least get my sex right, ya goof.

You’re a dude? My apologies. I guess that means I can stop fantasizing about you. /
Seriously, I’m sorry…and I wasn’t slandering you. You do say stupid shit sometimes (like earlier, when you tried the straw-man argument that the GOP, by my logic, was responsible for the Ft. Hood shootings…that really was pretty dumb…but I still love you just the same).

464 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:27:23pm

re: #443 darthstar

Ha! Just got robo-polled:
“This is survey 2010-22” (or something like that), “do you consider yourself a Tea Party member?”
My response, “Fuck you.”
“Are you a fan of Sarah Palin?”
My response, “Fuck her.”
“This has been survey 2010-22. Thank you.”

For “fuck you,” press 1.
For “fuck her,” press 2.
For “fuck him,” press 3.

//

465 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:27:36pm

re: #456 negativ

How’s that cutey-grandkidey stuff workin out for ya?
///

I’m being bombed with pictures…sleeping, hand in the air, fist, cool Cowboys snuggie thing, diaper change, yawn, one leg bent at the knee…what can I say?

466 darthstar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:28:12pm

re: #459 Stanley Sea

Made my night. Glad to know you Darth.

My wife just called to say she was on her way home. I said, “Well, this is better than the last call I got” and told her the story…she laughed.

467 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:28:34pm

re: #460 Spare O’Lake

It does! Its still 10000000000x better than the notihng that we had before >>

468 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:28:53pm

re: #465 albusteve

I’m being bombed with pictures…sleeping, hand in the air, fist, cool Cowboys snuggie thing, diaper change, yawn, one leg bent at the knee…what can I say?

Cowboys snuggie thing.

perrrfect.

469 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:29:15pm

re: #467 windsagio

It does! Its still 10000000000x better than the notihng that we had before >>

you sound like a valley girl

470 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:29:59pm

re: #465 albusteve

I’m being bombed with pictures…sleeping, hand in the air, fist, cool Cowboys snuggie thing, diaper change, yawn, one leg bent at the knee…what can I say?

You have good kids, to “bomb” you with all of those pictures.
You done good!

471 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:30:23pm

re: #469 albusteve

Damn, I try to sound like Little Orphan Annie.

Leapin’ Lizards, Sandy!

472 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:30:32pm

re: #468 Stanley Sea

Cowboys snuggie thing.

perrrfect.

yup I was pleased…I’m looking for a tiny ‘Keith Richards for President’ tee shirt

473 darthstar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:30:34pm

re: #467 windsagio

It does! Its still 10000000000x better than the notihng that we had before >>

Yep. It’s a step in the right direction. Maybe Congress will have the guts to improve it after the 2010 elections are over.

474 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:30:47pm

Child Witches: Accused in the Name of Jesus

Bobby and Henock were brought to this pastor by their stepmother, who said she believes her stepsons are witches and claimed the boys were stealing their stepsister’s blood and using it to fly at night. Pointing to Henock, whose left arm is covered in bandages, she said that, in the “spirit world,” he is an elderly man who injured himself while trying to kill his father. The boys’ father was not present; he was out of town on work and apparently unaware of the ceremony.

In a small, squeaky voice, Bobby said that family members had told him he and his brother were infected with witchcraft after eating bread and green beans their older brother gave them.

476 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:31:58pm

re: #473 darthstar

We have to wait for the Republicans to co-opt the current plan as the status quo.


Luckily they’re pretty good at that :D

477 darthstar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:32:18pm

re: #475 The Sanity Inspector

Polar bear attacks person while onlookers laugh and do nothing. Victim survives.

I’m so facebooking that one…great!

478 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:32:50pm

re: #475 The Sanity Inspector

Polar bear attacks person while onlookers laugh and do nothing. Victim survives.

extreme cuteness alert!

479 justaminute  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:33:36pm

Did someone call for a newbie?

480 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:33:36pm

re: #478 reine.de.tout

extreme cuteness alert!

Shhh!

481 swamprat  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:34:30pm

re: #460 Spare O’Lake

Obama himself stated that the bill was only a first step and that it desperately needed to be substantially amended and expanded.

Foot in door
Nose in tent
give inch/take mile
two steps forward, one step ba…

Nevermind

482 austin_blue  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:34:49pm

re: #454 marjoriemoon

I haven’t marked a favorite in awhile, but that was certainly deserving. Thanks, Austin!

My pleasure. Facts are facts.

483 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:35:10pm

re: #470 Floral Giraffe

You have good kids, to “bomb” you with all of those pictures.
You done good!

my kids, all of them, are tre cool…I am very comfortable in their company…they all grew up with my zany, pirate attitude…I do what I want and they know that’s not for everyone…but my influence is there…you just cannot fuck these kids over…they are way too sharp and cautious, and every one of them digs the blues…is that perfect or what?

484 Sheepdogess  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:35:15pm

Splaine please….

h[Link: democrats.senate.gov…]

Sleep well, useful idiots.

485 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:36:01pm

re: #463 darthstar

You’re a dude? My apologies. I guess that means I can stop fantasizing about you. /
Seriously, I’m sorry…and I wasn’t slandering you. You do say stupid shit sometimes (like earlier, when you tried the straw-man argument that the GOP, by my logic, was responsible for the Ft. Hood shootings…that really was pretty dumb…but I still love you just the same).

Sorry to burst your bubble - was the fantasy good for you?
The subtlety of some of my arguments are sometimes lost on even the brightest people…don’t feel badly.
And love is never a bad thing.

486 freetoken  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:36:23pm

Looks like the forecast wasn’t so accurate…

487 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:36:46pm

re: #475 The Sanity Inspector

Polar bear attacks person while onlookers laugh and do nothing. Victim survives.

LOL! Nice bait and switch.

488 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:37:03pm

re: #478 reine.de.tout

extreme cuteness alert!

all my cats were like that…the damned things were wild

489 jaunte  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:37:10pm

re: #486 freetoken

Well, it’s hard to predict polar bear sprinkles.

490 Sheepdogess  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:37:37pm

re: #261 windsagio

Ggt rid of the orthodontics. Much better.

Thanks for askin.

491 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:38:15pm

re: #485 Spare O’Lake

Sorry to burst your bubble - was the fantasy good for you?
The subtlety of some of my arguments are sometimes lost on even the brightest people…don’t feel badly.
And love is never a bad thing.

noobness lingers

492 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:39:03pm

re: #484 Sheepdogess

I know I said I was going to lurk, but I had to pause the show to say that you’re trolling. You just started right in with an insult.

493 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:39:06pm

re: #464 Gus 802

For “fuck you,” press 1.
For “fuck her,” press 2.
For “fuck him,” press 3.

//

I could never get into those “Choose Your Own Adventure” phone sex lines.

494 Aceofwhat?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:39:07pm

re: #479 justaminute

Did someone call for a newbie?

what’s happening? i’m having a g&t…but just one…it’s a weekday

495 austin_blue  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:39:31pm

re: #460 Spare O’Lake

Obama himself stated that the bill was only a first step and that it desperately needed to be substantially amended and expanded.

Yes, but it’s a start. And he signed a corrective bill today with several fixes for the better. I understand that if Obama walked across the Potomac River you’d post “Obama can’t swim!!”, but really, this is the start of a process that will will make health care more affordable and American industries more competitive on the world stage. It’s about damn time.

496 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:40:29pm

re: #168 albusteve

neither did a lot of people…but old Bill was out there killing and pillaging just the same…he should have gotten more press at the time…ho hum

Oh, but, uh, the internet goes back at least until the late 1800’s?

right?
/

497 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:40:34pm

re: #488 albusteve

all my cats were like that…the damned things were wild

I’ve got one like that.
And the newest foundling cat is really sneaky smart.

ALL of the other cats hate him, hiss at him, arch their backs when he’s around, etc. We couldn’t figure out why, because he just sits there through all of this, all cool, calm & collected.

Then we got it - when he thinks we’re not watching - he’s going after the other cats, trying to boss ‘em around. He seems to do it only when he thinks we’re preoccupied with other things; when we’re paying attention, he’s Mr. Sweetheart. LOL.

498 Aceofwhat?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:40:55pm

re: #495 austin_blue

Yes, but it’s a start. And he signed a corrective bill today with several fixes for the better. I understand that if Obama walked across the Potomac River you’d post “Obama can’t swim!!”, but really, this is the start of a process that will will make health care more affordable and American industries more competitive on the world stage. It’s about damn time.

bleh.

499 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:40:56pm

re: #474 negativ

Child Witches: Accused in the Name of Jesus

That’s bad, and the Christian missionary role stinks, but witchcraft panics are built in to a lot of African cultures. There’s a lot of anthropology on it, like Paul Bohanan’s “Africa and Africans” or Midleton’s “Gods and Rituals”re: #474 negativ


.

500 swamprat  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:41:12pm

re: #486 freetoken

Everyone’s a critic.

501 darthstar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:41:31pm

re: #485 Spare O’Lake

Sorry to burst your bubble - was the fantasy good for you?
The subtlety of some of my arguments are sometimes lost on even the brightest people…don’t feel badly.
And love is never a bad thing.

Subtlety is one thing. The Ft. Hood reference was a red herring. But I still enjoy most of your posts, and you like to fish, so I know you’re not all bad. :)

And all my fantasies only involved you cutting bait and setting up my rig for me. ;)

502 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:41:47pm

re: #483 albusteve

It’s cool to see you so jazzed about “the kid”! I’m glad you have something so wonderful in your life, and for the future! Just wait until you meet him!
((Grampy))

503 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:42:00pm

re: #467 windsagio

It does! Its still 10000000000x better than the notihng that we had before >>

Many would argue that the political capital to whip the bill into half-decent shape may have been squandered by the Dem administration and the Dem controlled congress.

504 What, me worry?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:42:09pm

re: #482 austin_blue

My pleasure. Facts are facts.

My mom and I have been talking doughnut holes lately. I found this (may have been another link)

The alternative to private insurance is Medicare Part D, the government’s prescription drug program.

One key drawback is what’s known as the doughnut hole. This is a gap in prescription drug coverage that forces many retirees to pay for some of their prescription drugs out of their own pockets.*

It’s a well-known problem that was addressed in the reform legislation by providing a $250 rebate for seniors this year, and a 50 percent discount on brand-name drugs next year. By 2020 the Medicare drug gap will be completely closed.

*They should have mentioned the cost of these meds is astronomical.

505 darthstar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:42:47pm

re: #493 Slumbering Behemoth

I could never get into those “Choose Your Own Adventure” phone sex lines.

It sucks when you run up a $45 phone bill and still haven’t gotten to a live “operator”…Please hold? WTF do you think I’ve been doing the last 15 minutes?

507 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:43:03pm

LOL! Fox is promoting Sarah’s new show, one of her guests is LL Cool J. (yeah, I did a second glance)

Well here’s his tweet response:

[Link: twitter.com…]

508 Sheepdogess  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:43:09pm

re: #261 windsagio

PIMF, Orthotics,

Feet, teeth, it’s rough when they both ache.

509 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:43:14pm

re: #472 albusteve

He’d have to produce a …

maybe I shouldn’t go there…

510 Sheepdogess  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:43:57pm

re: #492 Dark_Falcon

Who did I insult?

511 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:44:10pm

re: #504 marjoriemoon

250 bucks is nothing for what some of the meds cost. It really dosen’t matter. By 2020 there will be more people over 65 than under, then we’ll see where we are.

512 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:44:10pm

re: #503 Spare O’Lake

Many would argue that the political capital to whip the bill into half-decent shape may have been squandered by the Dem administration and the Dem controlled congress.

REPEAL!

513 Aceofwhat?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:44:18pm

re: #505 darthstar

It sucks when you run up a $45 phone bill and still haven’t gotten to a live “operator”…Please hold? WTF do you think I’ve been doing the last 15 minutes?

my two cents: bluetooth headsets are not for talking loudly in the coffee shop line. they’re for getting other things done around the house while on hold.

514 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:44:23pm

re: #475 The Sanity Inspector

Polar bear attacks person while onlookers laugh and do nothing. Victim survives.

heh… tell blue jeans boy/girl to come back in a year or two… we’ll see who’s laughing then…

515 What, me worry?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:45:08pm

re: #484 Sheepdogess

Splaine please…

h[Link: democrats.senate.gov…]

Sleep well, useful idiots.

“Please follow our main page: [Link: democrats.senate.gov…]

or did that slip by.

516 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:45:15pm

re: #497 reine.de.tout

We had a boxer dog who got nicknamed “Trouble”. He’d start something, the pup’d copy him, he’d hear us coming & the pup’d be the one to get caught! Things like eating a loaf of bread off the counter. It took us humans a while, but we did figure it out. That poor pup took some undeserved scoldings!

517 Four More Tears  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:45:15pm

re: #475 The Sanity Inspector

Polar bear attacks person while onlookers laugh and do nothing. Victim survives.

That thing is effin’ adorable!

518 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:45:18pm

re: #481 swamprat

Foot in door
Nose in tent
give inch/take mile
two steps forward, one step ba…

Nevermind

Three rows over and two seats down…

519 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:45:25pm

re: #507 Stanley Sea

LOL! Fox is promoting Sarah’s new show, one of her guests is LL Cool J. (yeah, I did a second glance)

Well here’s his tweet response:

[Link: twitter.com…]

Sarah’s going for the gangsta vote?

520 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:46:01pm

re: #497 reine.de.tout

I’ve got one like that.
And the newest foundling cat is really sneaky smart.

ALL of the other cats hate him, hiss at him, arch their backs when he’s around, etc. We couldn’t figure out why, because he just sits there through all of this, all cool, calm & collected.

Then we got it - when he thinks we’re not watching - he’s going after the other cats, trying to boss ‘em around. He seems to do it only when he thinks we’re preoccupied with other things; when we’re paying attention, he’s Mr. Sweetheart. LOL.

after years, my cats would lurk in the shadows and attack me, bite and scratch…then later they’d appear at my Lazy Boy and doze behind me while I’d read or watch TV…then work their way into my lap…I love cats like no other…they remind me of myself sometimes, so we always get along somehow…my last little barn cat was 23 when I had to put her down, and I cried like a baby…I have a painting of her just over my shoulder

521 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:46:04pm

re: #506 The Sanity Inspector

Fucker looks like Predator, doesn’t he/she/it?

522 recusancy  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:46:05pm

re: #503 Spare O’Lake

Many would argue that the political capital to whip the bill into half-decent shape may have been squandered by the Dem administration and the Dem controlled congress.

Many would argue that Glenn Beck is a savior who has come to set the world right. See, I can play this game too.

523 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:46:14pm

re: #506 The Sanity Inspector

So, it’s bait & switch cute photos you like, is it…?

It’s just a different kind of crab/lobster, which is why I’ll stick with Tri-Tip, thankyouverymuch.

524 What, me worry?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:46:30pm

re: #511 pingjockey

250 bucks is nothing for what some of the meds cost. It really dosen’t matter. By 2020 there will be more people over 65 than under, then we’ll see where we are.

The $250 is almost an insult. It does nothing. But the rest sounds good.

525 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:46:36pm

re: #519 Decatur Deb

Sarah’s going for the gangsta vote?

It’s the typical Fauxology.

526 Four More Tears  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:46:37pm

re: #493 Slumbering Behemoth

I could never get into those “Choose Your Own Adventure” phone sex lines.

Really? I had no prob…. uh… what was the topic again?

527 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:46:48pm

re: #504 marjoriemoon

*They should have mentioned the cost of these meds is astronomical.

I was in line at a pharmacy, last month, and the person in front of me got an $1800 bill for the meds. Mind you, this was at Costco!

528 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:46:53pm

re: #519 Decatur Deb
I guarentee she shoots better than most of the wannabe gangstas we have around here!

529 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:46:55pm

I Think I Like U2

530 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:47:18pm

re: #496 Oh no…Sand People!

Oh, but, uh, the internet goes back at least until the late 1800’s?

right?
/

okay, listen up kids!
history starts tomorrow, and there will be a quiz on Friday

531 justaminute  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:47:29pm

re: #494 Aceofwhat?

Nothing special, was just reading some of the comments. Sara P is not that deep and I am running out of things I can say about her.

532 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:47:38pm

heh. Southpark re-run I’ve never seen. Explains the pope hat and Hair Club for Men… :D

533 darthstar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:48:00pm

re: #495 austin_blue

Yes, but it’s a start. And he signed a corrective bill today with several fixes for the better. I understand that if Obama walked across the Potomac River you’d post “Obama can’t swim!!”, but really, this is the start of a process that will will make health care more affordable and American industries more competitive on the world stage. It’s about damn time.

I hear President Obama was golfing last week and he had 150 yards to the green over a water hole. He pulls out an 8 iron, and his golfing partner says, “That’s 150 yards…you can’t hit the green with an 8 iron!”

President Obama said, “If Tiger Woods can do it, so can I. Yes I can.”
So he lines up, hits the ball perfectly, and it lands in the middle of the pond. So, being perfect and all, he walks out on the water looking for his ball…

While he’s looking the next group of golfers walk up and say, “Who is that?”

“President Obama” replies one of the Secret Service Agents. “Who does he think he is, Jesus Christ?”

“No,” says the SS Agent…he thinks he’s Tiger Woods.

(apologies to those who still tell the joke with Jesus as the golfer)

534 What, me worry?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:48:19pm

re: #520 albusteve

after years, my cats would lurk in the shadows and attack me, bite and scratch…then later they’d appear at my Lazy Boy and doze behind me while I’d read or watch TV…then work their way into my lap…I love cats like no other…they remind me of myself sometimes, so we always get along somehow…my last little barn cat was 23 when I had to put her down, and I cried like a baby…I have a painting of her just over my shoulder

You’re an enigma wrapped in a twinkie wrapped in a riddle… or something.

535 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:48:58pm

re: #533 darthstar

Old joke, nice move with it….

536 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:49:07pm

re: #531 justaminute

Nothing special, was just reading some of the comments. Sara P is not that deep and I am running out of things I can say about her.

then resay all that stuff…chug along if you want to fit in

537 Aceofwhat?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:49:08pm

re: #531 justaminute

Nothing special, was just reading some of the comments. Sara P is not that deep and I am running out of things I can say about her.

you’ve joined the right club.

538 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:49:24pm

re: #533 darthstar

I hear President Obama was golfing last week and he had 150 yards to the green over a water hole. He pulls out an 8 iron, and his golfing partner says, “That’s 150 yards…you can’t hit the green with an 8 iron!”

President Obama said, “If Tiger Woods can do it, so can I. Yes I can.”
So he lines up, hits the ball perfectly, and it lands in the middle of the pond. So, being perfect and all, he walks out on the water looking for his ball…

While he’s looking the next group of golfers walk up and say, “Who is that?”

“President Obama” replies one of the Secret Service Agents. “Who does he think he is, Jesus Christ?”

“No,” says the SS Agent…he thinks he’s Tiger Woods.

(apologies to those who still tell the joke with Jesus as the golfer)

Deiiiiissst!
/?

539 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:49:24pm

re: #522 recusancy

I have one of those in my family. I just nod and smile, and talk about the weather.

540 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:49:29pm

re: #533 darthstar
Nice!

541 charlesincharge  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:49:54pm

re: #509 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Motor City Madman speaks. Eloquently? Truth to power?

Cat Scratch Freedom

Do you? YOU! Feel like I do? Yeah I know that’s another guy.

542 Decatur Deb  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:50:04pm

‘Nite, all. Don’t send the newbies on point.

543 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:50:19pm

re: #520 albusteve

Bury me under my dog.

544 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:50:22pm

re: #510 Sheepdogess

Who did I insult?

Anyone here you were referring to as a ‘useful idiot’.

545 Four More Tears  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:50:32pm

re: #542 Decatur Deb

‘Nite, all. Don’t send the newbies on point.

What good are they then?

546 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:50:44pm

re: #530 albusteve

okay, listen up kids!
history starts tomorrow, and there will be a quiz on Friday

LOL! I had a German Professor in college, who would get REALLY upset when the class wasn’t listening to him. He’d get all red in the face & pound the lectern, and shout “Qviz, Ve are going to have a qviz”! I can’t hear the word “quiz” without thinking of him & laughing!

547 HoosierHoops  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:50:48pm

re: #527 Floral Giraffe

I was in line at a pharmacy, last month, and the person in front of me got an $1800 bill for the meds. Mind you, this was at Costco!

Whoa..That sucks! I think all our meds are like 10 bucks each no matter what on our health insurance..I don’t know for sure…I’ve only done few a few pain pills over the years..But 1800 dollars?
There but for the grace of God go we..

548 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:50:58pm

re: #528 pingjockey

Don’t bet on it, bangers practice at the gun range too.

549 Four More Tears  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:51:01pm

re: #544 Dark_Falcon

Anyone here you were referring to as a ‘useful idiot’.

Guess that’s better than a useless idiot, no?

550 austin_blue  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:51:30pm

re: #498 Aceofwhat?

bleh.

A hit! A palpable hit!

Really? That’s all you’ve got?

Come on, man! Tell me why we should continue to embrace a system the rest of the western world has moved away from. Tell me why American industry is saddled with costs that cripple them compared to the rest of the world. Tell me why we pay more of our GDP in health care than the rest of the western world and get results that are quantifiably worse. Tell me why we are the only developed country that allows insurance companies to deny claims and *kill* citizens for profit. Tell me why you side with the Teabaggers instead of cold, hard, facts.

Enquiring minds want to know.

551 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:51:38pm

Gotta get typin, later all.

552 darthstar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:52:20pm

re: #547 HoosierHoops

Whoa..That sucks! I think all our meds are like 10 bucks each no matter what on our health insurance..I don’t know for sure…I’ve only done few a few pain pills over the years..But 1800 dollars?
There but for the grace of God go we..

Last time I paid over $1000 for a prescription it was for my cat. Seriously. 13 dollars a pill, three pills a day…30 days. But I love my cat, so it was worth it.

553 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:52:41pm

re: #548 Slumbering Behemoth
Not here in eastern WA. They just shoot the shit out of the neighbor hood and hope the law of large numbers of bullets thrown at a target will help them!

554 swamprat  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:53:02pm

re: #547 HoosierHoops

Whoa..That sucks! I think all our meds are like 10 bucks each no matter what on our health insurance..I don’t know for sure…I’ve only done few a few pain pills over the years..But 1800 dollars?
There but for the grace of God go we..

Comes the revolution, that shit….

Whoa! We’re here!

555 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:53:33pm

Humble Pie..
unplugged is hardly a new thing

556 Four More Tears  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:54:02pm

re: #550 austin_blue

A hit! A palpable hit!

Really? That’s all you’ve got?

Come on, man! Tell me why we should continue to embrace a system the rest of the western world has moved away from. Tell me why American industry is saddled with costs that cripple them compared to the rest of the world. Tell me why we pay more of our GDP in health care than the rest of the western world and get results that are quantifiably worse. Tell me why we are the only developed country that allows insurance companies to deny claims and *kill* citizens for profit. Tell me why you side with the Teabaggers instead of cold, hard, facts.

Enquiring minds want to know.

I think those damn poor people are bringing the US’s average life expectancy down.

Er, we damn poor people…

557 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:55:28pm

re: #556 JasonA

I think those damn poor people are bringing the US’s average life expectancy down.

Er, we damn poor people…

That’s not true! Someday I might be rich!

//

558 swamprat  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:55:34pm

re: #550 austin_blue

A hit! A palpable hit!

Really? That’s all you’ve got?

Come on, man! Tell me why we should continue to embrace a system the rest of the western world has moved away from. Tell me why American industry is saddled with costs that cripple them compared to the rest of the world. Tell me why we pay more of our GDP in health care than the rest of the western world and get results that are quantifiably worse. Tell me why we are the only developed country that allows insurance companies to deny claims and *kill* citizens for profit. Tell me why you side with the Teabaggers instead of cold, hard, facts.

Enquiring minds want to know.


Uh, ‘cause an industry that thinks “rape and pillage” is a pricing scale has bought off our politicians?

559 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:55:39pm

re: #550 austin_blue
I hope HCR works. My only issue is gov’t hasn’t run anything competently in 60 years. Soc. Sec./Medicare/Medicaid/Welfare/Housing/Education. I have serious concerns about the ability of the Feds to fix, run anything.

560 What, me worry?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:55:48pm

re: #527 Floral Giraffe

I was in line at a pharmacy, last month, and the person in front of me got an $1800 bill for the meds. Mind you, this was at Costco!

When my mom fell into the hole, her meds were $3000, I mentioned before. That’s a 3 month supply. In fact, the woman at Medicare told her that others cost $12,000! It’s not even a consideration when on a fixed income. Canada, btw, wasn’t that much cheaper, but she found a philanthropist, the Lions, I think that had a program she could join for those months.

561 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:56:14pm

re: #547 HoosierHoops

Yep. Spent the last 2 days, reviewing my health insurance options. Reading the books, comparing the policies & calling the company to ask questions. I miss being an employee, with an HR department to do that stuff for me, and being part of an insurance pool. Buying Health Insurance as an individual SUCKS. My premium might go from $289 a month to $399 a month, depending on what the state’s insurance commission review does. Oh, and Blue Cross? They filed for the increase 11/2009. Want to bet it was 11/5/2009?

562 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:56:18pm

re: #559 pingjockey

I hope HCR works. My only issue is gov’t hasn’t run anything competently in 60 years. Soc. Sec./Medicare/Medicaid/Welfare/Housing/Education. I have serious concerns about the ability of the Feds to fix, run anything.

Me too.

563 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:56:41pm

re: #547 HoosierHoops

Whoa..That sucks! I think all our meds are like 10 bucks each no matter what on our health insurance..I don’t know for sure…I’ve only done few a few pain pills over the years..But 1800 dollars?
There but for the grace of God go we..

My child once had to have an expensive injection, administered in two shots. I had to leg-wrestle with the insurance company over it, because their computer program couldn’t grok that it was one dose of the same medicine, in two parts, and not two doses. IIRC, they finally managed to hand-process the claim correctly. Moral: don’t always assume that the insurance company knows what it’s doing. I’ve appealed insurance decisions a few times, and by my count I’m 3-1.

564 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:56:56pm

re: #553 pingjockey

That’s terrorist tactics. Still, many do practice at the range. Some even join the military for a turn so they can come back and train their gang in proper tactics. That’s been a problem ‘round my parts more than once.

565 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:57:27pm

re: #495 austin_blue

Yes, but it’s a start. And he signed a corrective bill today with several fixes for the better. I understand that if Obama walked across the Potomac River you’d post “Obama can’t swim!!”, but really, this is the start of a process that will will make health care more affordable and American industries more competitive on the world stage. It’s about damn time.

I’d get down on my knees,
And I’d begin to pray…

566 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:57:54pm

re: #563 The Sanity Inspector

Good for you!

567 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:57:56pm

re: #564 Slumbering Behemoth
Gaaah. That isn’t good.

568 Aceofwhat?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:58:13pm

re: #550 austin_blue

A hit! A palpable hit!

Really? That’s all you’ve got?

Come on, man! Tell me why we should continue to embrace a system the rest of the western world has moved away from. Tell me why American industry is saddled with costs that cripple them compared to the rest of the world. Tell me why we pay more of our GDP in health care than the rest of the western world and get results that are quantifiably worse. Tell me why we are the only developed country that allows insurance companies to deny claims and *kill* citizens for profit. Tell me why you side with the Teabaggers instead of cold, hard, facts.

Enquiring minds want to know.

right. i want to side with the teabaggers. sigh.

i’ve written it often. we should be expanding HSA’s, tax deductibility for individual premiums and expenses, removing state barriers to insurance portability, providing/regulating catastrophic coverage, increasing what can be prescribed by NP’s…

we pay way too much of a % of GDP for healthcare because we have no reason to watch what we spend. as long as we pay our premiums, fuckit, order all 11 tests to help the doc CYA…

569 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:58:50pm

re: #506 The Sanity Inspector

So, it’s bait & switch cute photos you like, is it…?

OH, hell, I posted these a week or so ago!
Slow on the draw, there, you are.

The Roi works offshore and has seen these things, cooked one once, only it had been brought up quickly from very deep (instead of slowly) and it had sort of ‘sploded.

570 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 7:58:52pm

re: #560 marjoriemoon

When my mom fell into the hole, her meds were $3000, I mentioned before. That’s a 3 month supply. In fact, the woman at Medicare told her that others cost $12,000! It’s not even a consideration when on a fixed income. Canada, btw, wasn’t that much cheaper, but she found a philanthropist, the Lions, I think that had a program she could join for those months.

Thank g-d for private philanthropy!

571 Four More Tears  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:00:00pm

re: #495 austin_blue

I understand that if Obama walked across the Potomac River you’d post “Obama can’t swim!!”

Nah, nothing says the anti-Christ can’t walk on water.

572 What, me worry?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:00:04pm

re: #541 charlesincharge

Motor City Madman speaks. Eloquently? Truth to power?

Cat Scratch Freedom

Do you? YOU! Feel like I do? Yeah I know that’s another guy.

hehe Kill em all and let God sort it out! (I think is the moral of the story.)

573 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:00:11pm

re: #560 marjoriemoon

When my mom fell into the hole, her meds were $3000, I mentioned before. That’s a 3 month supply. In fact, the woman at Medicare told her that others cost $12,000! It’s not even a consideration when on a fixed income. Canada, btw, wasn’t that much cheaper, but she found a philanthropist, the Lions, I think that had a program she could join for those months.

My uncle gets some shot for Chron’s disease once a year. $5000.

574 recusancy  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:00:21pm

re: #568 Aceofwhat?

right. i want to side with the teabaggers. sigh.

i’ve written it often. we should be expanding HSA’s, tax deductibility for individual premiums and expenses, removing state barriers to insurance portability, providing/regulating catastrophic coverage, increasing what can be prescribed by NP’s…

we pay way too much of a % of GDP for healthcare because we have no reason to watch what we spend. as long as we pay our premiums, fuckit, order all 11 tests to help the doc CYA…

The health bill addresses that.

575 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:00:25pm

re: #568 Aceofwhat?
And why does the doc order 11 tests? So he doesn’t get sued and lose his license by some ambulance chaser. There was no tort reform in the HCR AFAIK.

576 HoosierHoops  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:00:34pm

re: #561 Floral Giraffe

Yep. Spent the last 2 days, reviewing my health insurance options. Reading the books, comparing the policies & calling the company to ask questions. I miss being an employee, with an HR department to do that stuff for me, and being part of an insurance pool. Buying Health Insurance as an individual SUCKS. My premium might go from $289 a month to $399 a month, depending on what the state’s insurance commission review does. Oh, and Blue Cross? They filed for the increase 11/2009. Want to bet it was 11/5/2009?

When I lived in California Working at Minsy I was on Kaiser…I thought it was great..Some people bitch about Kaiser but I never had an issue with it..
I thought it was world class health care…I don’t know how it is these days

577 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:00:47pm

re: #567 pingjockey

No, it’s not. And it’s usually LEOs who end up on the receiving end of that kind of thing. I have no love for gang-bangers, especially those who use taxpayer dollars to learn how to bang more effectively.

*spit!*

578 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:00:48pm

Attention, TV-watching people: Is there anything I should be paying attention to?

The only current TV shows I bother with are LOST, SOUTH PARK, and HOUSE. I understand that ABC is trying to revive “V” - I find that interesting, but I’m a severely easy sell when it comes to sci-fi. I figure it will probably suck, but I’m willing to give it several episodes worth of chances nevertheless.

I thought (and still think) that “The Sarah Connor Chronicles” was on the verge of becoming legendary when the Fox suits pulled the plug. True, it stumbled lots and lots right out of the gate, but consider that “CHEERS” was dead last in the ratings for two seasons in a row, and eventually went on to become a household name.

Oh, never mind.

579 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:00:49pm

Evening Honcos!! Just got here, but saw that the President is gonna open up some places to drill. Good on him!!

580 austin_blue  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:00:50pm

re: #559 pingjockey

I hope HCR works. My only issue is gov’t hasn’t run anything competently in 60 years. Soc. Sec./Medicare/Medicaid/Welfare/Housing/Education. I have serious concerns about the ability of the Feds to fix, run anything.

Flown in an airplane lately? Medicare is run with a 3% overhead. Like the military?

A lot of the gripes you list are memes. Texas and the US have tried a lot of privatization contracts recently. Some of them do well, some are complete disasters. It’s a really broad brush you mention, especially since some of the programs you mention are horribly underfunded.

581 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:00:53pm

way ahead of their time…the Stones were doing this sort of stuff too
so many Pie fans here!…amazing!…some strange days

582 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:01:27pm

re: #569 reine.de.tout

SOUP!

583 Lidane  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:01:37pm

Because I’m a geek and goofy things like this amuse me, I thought I’d share:

Barack Obama Looking at Awesome Things

Heh.

584 Aceofwhat?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:02:08pm

re: #574 recusancy

The health bill addresses that.

how?

585 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:02:12pm

re: #582 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I left you a comment on FB. Heh

586 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:02:17pm

re: #579 Cannadian Club Akbar

Evening Honcos!! Just got here, but saw that the President is gonna open up some places to drill. Good on him!!

heh….and the moon is made out of green cheese…what comes out of the WH don’t mean shit…we’ll see

587 darthstar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:02:52pm

re: #576 HoosierHoops

When I lived in California Working at Minsy I was on Kaiser…I thought it was great..Some people bitch about Kaiser but I never had an issue with it..
I thought it was world class health care…I don’t know how it is these days

A friend of mine took a job with Kaiser (It was the first time I’d met her as a guest of my wife when they were having a dinner party). She was all excited about her new job. I asked (granted, a few glasses of wine had been consumed) “Do they offer Blue Cross?” Only one person at the table thought it was funny at the time, aside from myself. We’re all good friends now, though, so I survived my ill-timed humor.

588 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:03:10pm

re: #522 recusancy

Many would argue that Glenn Beck is a savior who has come to set the world right. See, I can play this game too.

Try harder, you can do better than that.

589 jaunte  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:03:32pm

re: #583 Lidane

Captain America!
[Link: www.flickr.com…]

590 swamprat  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:03:37pm

re: #573 Gus 802

There’s a shot?

wtf

591 justaminute  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:03:40pm

Healthcare is a subject that made me take a look at Obama. Plus I have 31 employees that have no insurance. We started our business offering insurance but one by one the employees’ could not afford their part. Since 1992 our premiums have raised 300%. I am always looking for a solution,

592 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:03:50pm

re: #580 austin_blue
None of the stuff I mentioned is underfunded. Shittily run yes, underfunded no. The budget is 2 trillion dollars. How can anything be underfunded? The military is not run as well as it could be, been there for 20 years, I know where of I speak.

593 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:04:06pm

re: #579 Cannadian Club Akbar

Evening Honcos!! Just got here, but saw that the President is gonna open up some places to drill. Good on him!!

Obama to Set Plan on Offshore Drilling

WASHINGTON—The Obama administration is expected Wednesday to unveil a long-awaited five-year national offshore oil and natural-gas drilling plan, which may include new drilling off the Virginia coast.

The plan is expected to say when and where companies such as Exxon Mobil Corp., ConocoPhillips and Royal Dutch Shell PLC can explore off the coasts of long-proven oil states such as Texas, Alaska and Louisiana. It also is expected to open new offshore areas to exploration between 2012 and 2017.

Industry officials say the administration is likely to offer a lease sale for exploration blocks off the Virginia coast. This section had been previously set for a 2011 lease sale before the White House pulled it from the program last year. They also expect the plan to include a timeline for seismic surveys to assess potential resources in the Atlantic and a schedule for decisions on possible future lease sales off the U.S. East Coast.

594 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:04:53pm

re: #590 swamprat

There’s a shot?

wtf

Probably for some other complications he has. Whatever it is, it’s 5000 bucks.

595 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:05:04pm

re: #593 Gus 802

Florida needs to be added to the list.

596 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:05:14pm

re: #593 Gus 802
What is the eco lobby gonna say?

597 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:05:36pm

re: #578 negativ

I can think of two great reasons why you should watch “Chuck”.

598 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:05:57pm

re: #576 HoosierHoops

Had a very bad experience with a friend at Kaiser over 20 years ago. If I have no other options, I will get Kaiser Insurance, but it’s not on the favorites list.

599 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:06:02pm

re: #596 pingjockey

What is the eco lobby gonna say?

Lawsuit after lawsuit after…..

600 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:06:03pm

re: #595 Cannadian Club Akbar

Florida needs to be added to the list.

Yes. There will always be should haves, would have, could haves.

601 What, me worry?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:06:09pm

re: #563 The Sanity Inspector

My child once had to have an expensive injection, administered in two shots. I had to leg-wrestle with the insurance company over it, because their computer program couldn’t grok that it was one dose of the same medicine, in two parts, and not two doses. IIRC, they finally managed to hand-process the claim correctly. Moral: don’t always assume that the insurance company knows what it’s doing. I’ve appealed insurance decisions a few times, and by my count I’m 3-1.

You have to be able to know what’s going on and stay on top of them, for sure. Oftentimes, people are on their own. Kinda reminds me of dealing with tech support if you think about it! (It’s not our fault, it’s their fault. Did you read your contract? We don’t cover that…)

602 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:06:18pm

Sidebar: Anyone who thinks the federal government is stingy should be acquainted with the Catalog of Federal Domestic Assistance. There are a lot of handouts/workfare in there. If you ever encounter a print version of this catalog, be sure not to drop it on your toe, because in deadtree form it is a behemoth.

And note that this is only a listing of federal programs. There are also state programs, county programs, municipal programs, private programs, charities, churches, kind mystery Santas, in this most generous country on God’s green earth…

603 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:06:26pm

re: #591 justaminute

Healthcare is a subject that made me take a look at Obama. Plus I have 31 employees that have no insurance. We started our business offering insurance but one by one the employees’ could not afford their part. Since 1992 our premiums have raised 300%. I am always looking for a solution,

I went through that with a remodel business…good luck

604 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:06:26pm

re: #585 Cannadian Club Akbar

Funny as shit, too.

605 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:06:31pm

re: #591 justaminute

Healthcare is a subject that made me take a look at Obama. Plus I have 31 employees that have no insurance. We started our business offering insurance but one by one the employees’ could not afford their part. Since 1992 our premiums have raised 300%. I am always looking for a solution,

justaminute - welcome.

It’s the real life stories that I pay attention to. Not the “oh no the sky is going to fall” crap.

606 austin_blue  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:06:51pm

re: #593 Gus 802

Yay! Our projected 3% of oil reserves will save us while we consume 25% of production!

Oh, wait….

607 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:07:19pm

re: #602 The Sanity Inspector

Socialism!
/

608 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:07:19pm

re: #606 austin_blue

Yay! Our projected 3% of oil reserves will save us while we consume 25% of production!

Oh, wait…

Drill here!!!111 Drill now!!!!!!11!

609 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:07:57pm

re: #527 Floral Giraffe

I was in line at a pharmacy, last month, and the person in front of me got an $1800 bill for the meds. Mind you, this was at Costco!

Flo - I need IVIG once a month (screwy immune system).
$10,000 a pop. 100% covered.
I’m very glad to be paying $500 a month for my portion of the premium -

610 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:08:04pm

re: #579 Cannadian Club Akbar

Evening Honcos!! Just got here, but saw that the President is gonna open up some places to drill. Good on him!!

“Drill Here, Drill Now!”
- Sarah Palin

611 austin_blue  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:08:33pm

re: #608 Gus 802

Drill here!!!111 Drill now!!!11!

And thangewveramuch…I am outta here.

Sweet dreams, all.

612 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:08:41pm

re: #609 reine.de.tout

Yowza.

613 HoosierHoops  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:08:51pm

re: #579 Cannadian Club Akbar

Evening Honcos!! Just got here, but saw that the President is gonna open up some places to drill. Good on him!!

Hey you..I won free parking in Indy Sunday with 4 free dinners and 4 tickets lower level 10 row to the Rockets- Pacers game.. There is free music all weekend in Indy for the Final Four and the Boys and I are watching the goo goo dolls before dinner…
The local team..Butler is in the final four..Indy has gone nuts

614 swamprat  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:08:52pm

re: #574 recusancy

The health bill addresses that.

Are we going to guillotine the malpractice lawyers?

615 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:08:54pm

re: #606 austin_blue

Yay! Our projected 3% of oil reserves will save us while we consume 25% of production!

Oh, wait…

nobody knows how much oil is down there…probably a lot more than you think

616 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:09:00pm

re: #582 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

SOUP!

I posted those photos on my FB.

The response from all the Louisiana folks: “YUM!”

617 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:09:19pm

re: #610 Spare O’Lake

“Drill Here, Drill Now!”
- Sarah Palin

Newt Gingrich

“Drill Here. Drill Now.” is an American political slogan coined on May 20, 2008 by former speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich and his American Solutions organization to advocate for increased use of America’s domestic energy resources to help lower the cost of oil.

618 Four More Tears  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:09:32pm

re: #608 Gus 802

Drill here!!!111 Drill now!!!11!

Harder! Faster!

Oh, you’re talking about something else…

619 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:09:42pm

re: #613 HoosierHoops
Have a ball!

620 Political Atheist  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:09:49pm

re: #564 Slumbering Behemoth

Correct-Gun skills advance among the best and worst gun populations.

621 swamprat  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:10:08pm

re: #606 austin_blue

Yay! Our projected 3% of oil reserves will save us while we consume 25% of production!

Oh, wait…



All we have to do is inflate our tires properly.

622 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:10:14pm

re: #618 JasonA

Harder! Faster!

Oh, you’re talking about something else…

For “harder,” press 1.
For “faster,” press 2.
For “faster-harder!” press 3.

//

623 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:10:22pm

re: #602 The Sanity Inspector

Sidebar: Anyone who thinks the federal government is stingy should be acquainted with the Catalog of Federal Domestic Assistance. There are a lot of handouts/workfare in there. If you ever encounter a print version of this catalog, be sure not to drop it on your toe, because in deadtree form it is a behemoth.

Watch it, buddy!

624 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:10:25pm

re: #613 HoosierHoops

Hey you..I won free parking in Indy Sunday with 4 free dinners and 4 tickets lower level 10 row to the Rockets- Pacers game.. There is free music all weekend in Indy for the Final Four and the Boys and I are watching the goo goo dolls before dinner…
The local team..Butler is in the final four..Indy has gone nuts

Good for you!! Holy CRAP!! I love the Goo Goo Dolls!! Not jealous, though. Glad you are having fun!

625 What, me worry?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:10:38pm

re: #576 HoosierHoops

When I lived in California Working at Minsy I was on Kaiser…I thought it was great..Some people bitch about Kaiser but I never had an issue with it..
I thought it was world class health care…I don’t know how it is these days

My mom-in-law is with Kaiser. She has a lot of health issues and swears by them. Takes care of all her needs.

626 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:10:57pm

re: #591 justaminute

Healthcare is a subject that made me take a look at Obama. Plus I have 31 employees that have no insurance. We started our business offering insurance but one by one the employees’ could not afford their part. Since 1992 our premiums have raised 300%. I am always looking for a solution,

Our grandchildren are just lying there, cooing in their cribs, anyway…

/not to disparage your here-and-now difficulties

627 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:10:58pm

re: #516 Floral Giraffe

We had a boxer dog who got nicknamed “Trouble”. He’d start something, the pup’d copy him, he’d hear us coming & the pup’d be the one to get caught! Things like eating a loaf of bread off the counter. It took us humans a while, but we did figure it out. That poor pup took some undeserved scoldings!

LOL!

628 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:11:09pm

re: #609 reine.de.tout

I just looked that up. Appears to be worth every cent.

629 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:11:18pm

re: #617 Gus 802

yeah, you’re right, forget about domestic resources……yawn, so what’s new?

630 Lidane  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:11:18pm

re: #597 Slumbering Behemoth

I can think of two great reasons why you should watch “Chuck”.

Personally, if this turns out to be more than just a friend stopping by to visit the Chuck set, I’ll be a bouncy fangirl for ages.

I like Chuck anyway, but throw in that kind of Firefly reunion, and I’d be over the moon. :D

631 justaminute  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:11:55pm

re: #605 Stanley Sea

Thanks. Real life stories come everyday in a restaurant. Customers want to tell you their problems, as well as the employees. Everyday I feel like a bartender but by the end of the day sometimes I need a bartender.

632 darthstar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:12:38pm

re: #622 Gus 802

For “harder,” press 1.
For “faster,” press 2.
For “faster-harder!” press 3.

//

For Mas Rapido, el primo numero nuevo.

633 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:12:45pm

re: #616 reine.de.tout

Look for the new pic on my fb… I can’t get it down to avatar size… or I would.

634 swamprat  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:13:02pm

re: #614 swamprat

Are we going to guillotine the malpractice lawyers?

I see by the down ding you are a malpractice lawyer. Or you made an unsustainable assertion. Either way, sorry.

635 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:13:04pm

re: #629 albusteve

yeah, you’re right, forget about domestic resources…yawn, so what’s new?

You know I support domestic production.

What’s new? I’m broke. My client isn’t coming back until Saturday. And my neck feels like there’s an alien growing inside of it.

636 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:13:19pm

re: #633 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Look for the new pic on my fb… I can’t get it down to avatar size… or I would.

OK.
checking now.

637 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:13:38pm

re: #606 austin_blue

Yay! Our projected 3% of oil reserves will save us while we consume 25% of production!

Oh, wait…

But it will still help, Austin. If Virginia is willing to allow the exploration, we should by all means let it go forwards.

638 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:14:12pm

re: #631 justaminute

Thanks. Real life stories come everyday in a restaurant. Customers want to tell you their problems, as well as the employees. Everyday I feel like a bartender but by the end of the day sometimes I need a bartender.

I got out of the industry. Then got laidoff from the new career. Went back in. Got a call today for a management job.

639 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:14:12pm

re: #601 marjoriemoon

You have to be able to know what’s going on and stay on top of them, for sure. Oftentimes, people are on their own. Kinda reminds me of dealing with tech support if you think about it! (It’s not our fault, it’s their fault. Did you read your contract? We don’t cover that…)

Whenever you go for an appointment, call the insurance and find out what they’ll cover, and what will be your out-of-pocket liability, and when & how & to whom payments will be made. Make them repeat it if you don’t understand. Get the name of the person you spoke to. Then wait an hour and call back, and go through the same routine with someone different, just to be sure they’ve got it together on their end. Stuff can’t help but be complicated, but it doesn’t have to be surprising.

640 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:14:26pm

re: #633 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Look for the new pic on my fb… I can’t get it down to avatar size… or I would.

haha!
Yes, I noticed it the other day.
The one I really liked was the photo you were ‘tagged” in, by the cake.
Now, that’s a classic.

641 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:14:50pm

re: #636 reine.de.tout

A very rare picture of me and a cake in the same picture before the cake has ceased to be.

642 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:15:05pm

re: #628 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I just looked that up. Appears to be worth every cent.

It’s been a miracle drug for me.

643 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:15:14pm

re: #630 Lidane

I like that dude. He was pretty cool as that evil priest in a few episodes of “Buffy”.

I do watch his “Castle” show now and again. It’s not bad, but I mostly watch it for his co-star.

644 darthstar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:15:44pm

Jon Stewart just compared the Palin/McCain interview on Fox to “Weekend at Bernies”…oh, my sides are splitting.

645 swamprat  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:15:53pm

re: #621 swamprat

All we have to do is inflate our tires properly.


I see by the down ding you are a tire salesman. Or you don’t like Obama quotes.

Either way, sorry.

646 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:15:54pm

re: #641 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

A very rare picture of me and a cake in the same picture before the cake has ceased to be.

If you want to e-mail me the photo, I can probably get it down to avatar size on my nifty Mac. I did one the other day.

647 justaminute  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:15:55pm

re: #626 The Sanity Inspector

No problem, I chose this business. Nighty nite

648 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:16:14pm

in lieu of a popular vote…
I declare Humble Pie the official rock and roll band of LGF
are you ready?

649 wee fury  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:16:18pm

re: #637 Dark_Falcon

You might enjoy the book (if you haven’t read it already) link I posted earlier tonight.

650 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:16:18pm

re: #632 darthstar

For Mas Rapido, el primo numero nuevo.

I want my country’s phone sex lines back! Speak english!

651 Cato the Elder  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:16:48pm

re: #630 Lidane

Personally, if this turns out to be more than just a friend stopping by to visit the Chuck set, I’ll be a bouncy fangirl for ages.

I like Chuck anyway, but throw in that kind of Firefly reunion, and I’d be over the moon. :D

RU a Firefly grrrl?

652 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:17:02pm

re: #607 Killgore Trout

Socialism!
/

I just don’t like it when people carry on as if no one in the entire history of the country before them ever thought of helping people.

653 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:17:55pm

re: #609 reine.de.tout

Flo - I need IVIG once a month (screwy immune system).
$10,000 a pop. 100% covered.
I’m very glad to be paying $500 a month for my portion of the premium -

Interesting factoid here… tell me this ain’t worth $10,000.00.

Intravenous immune globulin (IVIG) is a blood product administered intravenously. It contains the pooled IgG (immunoglobulin (antibody) G) extracted from the plasma of over one thousand blood donors.

Hard to sell that one at Walmart for 4.00, don’tcha think?

654 What, me worry?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:17:56pm

re: #639 The Sanity Inspector

Whenever you go for an appointment, call the insurance and find out what they’ll cover, and what will be your out-of-pocket liability, and when & how & to whom payments will be made. Make them repeat it if you don’t understand. Get the name of the person you spoke to. Then wait an hour and call back, and go through the same routine with someone different, just to be sure they’ve got it together on their end. Stuff can’t help but be complicated, but it doesn’t have to be surprising.

I have pretty good insurance myself and I’m lucky that my docs are in network, although I’m doing some shuffling this year.

Good advice :)

655 What, me worry?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:18:41pm

re: #644 darthstar

Jon Stewart just compared the Palin/McCain interview on Fox to “Weekend at Bernies”…oh, my sides are splitting.

I’m watching it now lol

656 webevintage  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:18:55pm

re: #644 darthstar

Jon Stewart just compared the Palin/McCain interview on Fox to “Weekend at Bernies”…oh, my sides are splitting.

“I like corn dogs”
hahahahahahaha

657 darthstar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:19:10pm

re: #655 marjoriemoon

I’m watching it now lol

Nipple zippers!

658 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:19:33pm

re: #613 HoosierHoops

Hey you..I won free parking in Indy Sunday with 4 free dinners and 4 tickets lower level 10 row to the Rockets- Pacers game.. There is free music all weekend in Indy for the Final Four and the Boys and I are watching the goo goo dolls before dinner…
The local team..Butler is in the final four..Indy has gone nuts

Hoopster has gone nuts.
FTFY!
;)

659 What, me worry?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:19:33pm

re: #644 darthstar

Jon Stewart just compared the Palin/McCain interview on Fox to “Weekend at Bernies”…oh, my sides are splitting.

But I have news for Stewart. He better hope McCain wins over Hayworth.

660 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:19:58pm

re: #617 Gus 802

Obama now begins to adopt the GOP policy plank of Drill Here, Drill Now.
Obama veers again!

661 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:20:27pm

re: #660 Spare O’Lake

Obama now begins to adopt the GOP policy plank of Drill Here, Drill Now.
Obama veers again!

Good news! Well, we’ll see what’s announced tomorrow.

662 What, me worry?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:20:28pm

re: #650 Slumbering Behemoth

I want my country’s phone sex lines back! Speak english!

Me love you long time?

663 webevintage  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:20:41pm

re: #613 HoosierHoops

Hey you..I won free parking in Indy Sunday with 4 free dinners and 4 tickets lower level 10 row to the Rockets- Pacers game.. There is free music all weekend in Indy for the Final Four and the Boys and I are watching the goo goo dolls before dinner…
The local team..Butler is in the final four..Indy has gone nuts

Damn, now that sounds like a good time!
Congrats…

664 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:20:58pm

re: #659 marjoriemoon

But I have news for Stewart. He better hope McCain wins over Hayworth.

I thought the CW was that hayworth, if he won the primary, would lose to a dem?

665 darthstar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:21:03pm

re: #659 marjoriemoon

But I have news for Stewart. He better hope McCain wins over Hayworth.

As long as the balance in the Senate stays the same, it doesn’t matter if Hayworth or McCain wins the primary. If Hayworth wins, the GOP gets further marginalized going into 2012. If McCain wins, nobody gives a damn.

666 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:21:14pm

re: #659 marjoriemoon
Wasn’t Hayworth a talk show host kind of to the right of Rush?

667 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:21:24pm

re: #644 darthstar

Jon Stewart just compared the Palin/McCain interview on Fox to “Weekend at Bernies”…oh, my sides are splitting.

And Robin Williams is now on…

668 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:21:59pm

re: #638 Cannadian Club Akbar

I got out of the industry. Then got laidoff from the new career. Went back in. Got a call today for a management job.

Hope you get the job & it’s a decent one!

669 Lidane  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:22:05pm

re: #651 Cato the Elder

RU a Firefly grrrl?

More of a Nathan Fillion fangirl. Heh. I loved Firefly and Serenity, but he was always my favorite part of the show. I’m totally shallow that way. ;)

670 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:22:07pm

re: #662 marjoriemoon
That line brings up some memories.

671 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:22:14pm

re: #665 darthstar

As long as the balance in the Senate stays the same, it doesn’t matter if Hayworth or McCain wins the primary. If Hayworth wins, the GOP gets further marginalized going into 2012. If McCain wins, nobody gives a damn.

Yikes. I hope McCain wins. Hayworth would be a disaster for Arizona.

672 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:22:32pm

Quick poll: The Windows 7 commercial with the french girl. Is she hot or what?

673 HoosierHoops  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:22:39pm

re: #619 pingjockey

Have a ball!

There are so many free concerts it’s not funny.. I think we’ll hit Daughtry on Saturday..But it’s like free music heaven during the final four…
Everybody that is anybody is going to be in Indy in a few days..And it’s all free..This place love Basketball..And free music!
I emailed my Boss in California..Dude..You know I’ll be late to work Monday right? right?
OH..And we are sitting in section 20.. My one buddy called me tonight..Dude!
We are going to be on TV! We are right behind the basket! TIVO Baby!
Now lizards…There is going to be a really big guy with really long hair Sitting behind the basket..So watch during free throws..
That’s Paulie..The Hoopster will be right next to him on TV…
Don’t worry..We’ll get the Camera Shot.. There are few people alive as big as Paulie that hasn’t cut his hair in 20 years…TV Time!

674 darthstar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:22:40pm

re: #670 pingjockey

That line brings up some memories.

Information best not shared publicly.

675 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:23:17pm

re: #613 HoosierHoops

Hey! Was thinking about this yesterday… How’s Tyler Hansbrough gonna work out?

He a player?

676 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:23:33pm

re: #668 Floral Giraffe

Hope you get the job & it’s a decent one!

I don’t think I’m gonna take it. I have bigger plans that I won’t bring up because I don’t want to jinx it.

677 darthstar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:23:39pm

re: #671 Gus 802

Yikes. I hope McCain wins. Hayworth would be a disaster for Arizona.

Screw Arizona. They don’t even do Daylight Savings. / (seriously, I wish they had a Democratic option this year)

678 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:23:52pm

re: #671 Gus 802

Yikes. I hope McCain wins. Hayworth would be a disaster for Arizona.

Quite Concur.

679 Aceofwhat?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:24:03pm

re: #669 Lidane

More of a Nathan Fillion fangirl. Heh. I loved Firefly and Serenity, but he was always my favorite part of the show. I’m totally shallow that way. ;)

Loving Firefly makes you awesome regardless of your ulterior motives!

680 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:24:04pm

re: #666 pingjockey

Wasn’t Hayworth a talk show host kind of to the right of Rush?

Hayworth was Abramoffed in a big way. Never brought up though.

681 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:24:07pm

re: #674 darthstar
No freakin’ way. That kind of shit has a longer non-disclosure agreement than the one I had to sign when I retired from the navy.

682 What, me worry?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:24:30pm

re: #664 WindUpBird

I thought the CW was that hayworth, if he won the primary, would lose to a dem?

I’m ok with that, but I’d be nervous. I never thought I’d root for McCain, but there ya have it. I’m worried over the FL elections, too.

683 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:24:40pm

re: #653 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Interesting factoid here… tell me this ain’t worth $10,000.00.

Intravenous immune globulin (IVIG) is a blood product administered intravenously. It contains the pooled IgG (immunoglobulin (antibody) G) extracted from the plasma of over one thousand blood donors.

Hard to sell that one at Walmart for 4.00, don’tcha think?

Yep.
Add to it the nursing care for the 8 hours it takes to get it all in.

684 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:24:48pm

re: #672 Cannadian Club Akbar

Quick poll: The Windows 7 commercial with the french girl. Is she hot or what?

I don’t think so…

685 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:24:58pm

re: #680 Stanley Sea
I must do some research. Thanks.

686 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:25:02pm

re: #677 darthstar

Screw Arizona. They don’t even do Daylight Savings. / (seriously, I wish they had a Democratic option this year)

My mother’s mother retired to Arizona and my aunt still lives there. On that basis alone, I object to “screw Arizona”.

687 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:25:08pm

re: #662 marjoriemoon

Not if I have to pay extra! Five minutes will do just fine. Oh, who am I fooling? Make it two minutes.

688 steve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:25:20pm

I do not remember this edition but I have always liked the X-Men. And I actually remember purchasing the 1969 issue of Thor at the ripe old age of 16. I wish I still had it.

689 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:25:33pm

re: #677 darthstar

Screw Arizona. They don’t even do Daylight Savings. / (seriously, I wish they had a Democratic option this year)

Would have to be a conservative Democrat.

690 What, me worry?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:25:41pm

re: #665 darthstar

As long as the balance in the Senate stays the same, it doesn’t matter if Hayworth or McCain wins the primary. If Hayworth wins, the GOP gets further marginalized going into 2012. If McCain wins, nobody gives a damn.

I was under the impression Hayworth is to the right of McCain.

691 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:25:42pm

re: #682 marjoriemoon

I’m ok with that, but I’d be nervous. I never thought I’d root for McCain, but there ya have it. I’m worried over the FL elections, too.

Rubio will win the Senate seat. McCollum will be Gubner.

692 What, me worry?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:26:02pm

re: #666 pingjockey

Wasn’t Hayworth a talk show host kind of to the right of Rush?

I have no idea.

693 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:26:12pm

re: #686 Dark_Falcon

My mother’s mother retired to Arizona and my aunt still lives there. On that basis alone, I object to “screw Arizona”.

what difference does it make who’s elected down there?….hahaha!…forget it, don’t answer

694 darthstar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:26:13pm

re: #686 Dark_Falcon

My mother’s mother retired to Arizona and my aunt still lives there. On that basis alone, I object to “screw Arizona”.


Oh, it was sarc…but I will concur that I was over the line saying it even sarcastically.

695 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:26:17pm

re: #682 marjoriemoon

I’m ok with that, but I’d be nervous. I never thought I’d root for McCain, but there ya have it. I’m worried over the FL elections, too.

I figured Crist was presidential material and now they want to kick him out, it’s amazing.

696 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:26:26pm

re: #676 Cannadian Club Akbar

I don’t think I’m gonna take it. I have bigger plans that I won’t bring up because I don’t want to jinx it.

That’s great, but only if you can afford to gamble - I wish you the best of luck.

697 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:26:51pm

re: #669 Lidane

Nothing at all wrong with liking pretty things.

698 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:26:54pm

re: #692 marjoriemoon
I know he was on the radio and is right wing and that’s about it.

699 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:27:01pm

re: #686 Dark_Falcon

My mother’s mother retired to Arizona and my aunt still lives there. On that basis alone, I object to “screw Arizona”.

Arizona should build a fence on the New Mexico border to keep those pesky New Mexicans out!

Short of that. Arizona could always invade New Mexico and make it the 49th state.

//

700 What, me worry?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:27:02pm

re: #670 pingjockey

That line brings up some memories.

I’m not asking questions.

701 Aceofwhat?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:27:05pm

re: #695 WindUpBird

I figured Crist was presidential material and now they want to kick him out, it’s amazing.

yep. i thought we were better than that down here in FL. i don’t get it.

702 darthstar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:27:05pm

re: #690 marjoriemoon

I was under the impression Hayworth is to the right of McCain.

He is, but that won’t stop Mitch McConnell from embracing him…or anyone else on the right.

703 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:27:45pm

re: #700 marjoriemoon
Heh.

704 darthstar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:27:46pm

re: #699 Gus 802

At least New Mexico has open rest areas.

705 Aceofwhat?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:27:55pm

re: #697 Slumbering Behemoth

Nothing at all wrong with liking pretty things.

i like Firefly and Morena Baccarin…only seems fair that Lidane can have her candy too…

706 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:28:06pm

re: #672 Cannadian Club Akbar

I think she’s pretty cute. I think the french dialect factors in, though.

707 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:28:08pm

re: #676 Cannadian Club Akbar

I don’t think I’m gonna take it. I have bigger plans that I won’t bring up because I don’t want to jinx it.

Yeah! May the biggest plan win!
((CCA))

708 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:28:14pm

re: #701 Aceofwhat?

yep. i thought we were better than that down here in FL. i don’t get it.

I’ve only been to florida as a kid, and that was to Disneyworld. It’s a big question mark to me :D

709 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:28:17pm

re: #701 Aceofwhat?

yep. i thought we were better than that down here in FL. i don’t get it.

Hopefully it will only last this election season. Then the moderates will make a come back.

Hope, it’s not a bad word.

710 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:28:28pm

re: #684 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I don’t think so…

You would be wrong!!!:)

711 HoosierHoops  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:28:29pm

re: #675 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey! Was thinking about this yesterday… How’s Tyler Hansbrough gonna work out?

He a player?

Yes he is..He is a player….Kind of surprising really..The rap on him was that he was just a great college player..Hell there are thousands of those every year..The boy haz skilz.. Give him a few years and he just may be an all star

712 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:28:31pm

re: #652 The Sanity Inspector

I just don’t like it when people carry on as if no one in the entire history of the country before them ever thought of helping people.

True. I’ve been pretty harsh on Republicans these days but did some reading on the (previously) Republican ideas that made it into Obama’s healthcare bill. The mandate for buying insurance and the national exchange were originally Republican ideas. They are probably good ideas. Republicans aren’t bad heartless people, they’ve just become confused.

713 Aceofwhat?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:28:49pm

re: #708 WindUpBird

I’ve only been to florida as a kid, and that was to Disneyworld. It’s a big question mark to me :D

Jacksonville is cool. Not the retirement home feel that you get in other parts…

714 What, me worry?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:28:54pm

re: #687 Slumbering Behemoth

Not if I have to pay extra! Five minutes will do just fine. Oh, who am I fooling? Make it two minutes.

rofl A good strong breeze outa do it eh?

715 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:29:18pm

re: #673 HoosierHoops

Too. Fucking. Coool.

716 darthstar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:29:27pm

re: #712 Killgore Trout

True. I’ve been pretty harsh on Republicans these days but did some reading on the (previously) Republican ideas that made it into Obama’s healthcare bill. The mandate for buying insurance and the national exchange were originally Republican ideas. They are probably good ideas. Republicans aren’t bad heartless people, they’ve just become confused.


I just think that the GOP thinks ODS is a viable platform for their 2010 hopes…not a smart move.

717 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:29:42pm

I’m drunk and doing my taxes. Wheeeee!

718 swamprat  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:29:54pm

re: #702 darthstar

He is, but that won’t stop Mitch McConnell from embracing him…or anyone else on the right.


What are you trying to say about Mitch McConnell?
Is it something that the military would not require that he disclose?

719 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:30:11pm

re: #699 Gus 802

Arizona should build a fence on the New Mexico border to keep those pesky New Mexicans out!

Short of that. Arizona could always invade New Mexico and make it the 49th state.

//

ha!…they’d be shot to pieces before they even get near Santa Fe…and after all Arizona was just a bridesmaid to the New Mexico Territory…AZ is an afterthought…bunch of urbanites wrecking their valley over there..spit…they don’t know shit from shinola

720 Cato the Elder  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:30:24pm

re: #669 Lidane

More of a Nathan Fillion fangirl. Heh. I loved Firefly and Serenity, but he was always my favorite part of the show. I’m totally shallow that way. ;)

If you’ll dress up like Inara, I’ll dress up like Mal, and we can party! ;^)

721 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:30:29pm

re: #694 darthstar

Oh, it was sarc…but I will concur that I was over the line saying it even sarcastically.

Thank you for that. I should that it was my mother’s stepmother who retired to Arizona. My mother’s mother died before I was born.

722 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:30:38pm

re: #717 Killgore Trout

I’m drunk and doing my taxes. Wheee!

That’s how I try to do most things.
/

723 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:30:41pm

re: #717 Killgore Trout
You ain’t in congress or a congress critters staffer, you better do ‘em right.

724 What, me worry?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:30:46pm

re: #691 Cannadian Club Akbar

Rubio will win the Senate seat. McCollum will be Gubner.

I’m coming over there and breaking your crystal ball.

725 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:31:07pm

re: #716 darthstar

They’ll probably pick up a few seats. I have little doubt that Obama will be a two term President. Dems are going to have a nice run over the next decade.

726 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:31:15pm

re: #719 albusteve

ha!…they’d be shot to pieces before they even get near Santa Fe…and after all Arizona was just a bridesmaid to the New Mexico Territory…AZ is an afterthought…bunch of urbanites wrecking their valley over there..spit…they don’t know shit from shinola

Calizona

//

727 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:31:24pm

re: #717 Killgore Trout

I’m drunk and doing my taxes. Wheee!

You gonna check ‘em in the morning or let ‘em roll?
Just asking!

728 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:31:28pm

re: #673 HoosierHoops

Hoops! I’ve got an idea!

Take a hand-painted sign with the word “Hoops!” on it. That way we’ll watch for ya.

729 darthstar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:31:32pm

re: #725 Killgore Trout

They’ll probably pick up a few seats. I have little doubt that Obama will be a two term President. Dems are going to have a nice run over the next decade.

And so, by extension, will we.

730 Aceofwhat?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:31:37pm

re: #725 Killgore Trout

They’ll probably pick up a few seats. I have little doubt that Obama will be a two term President. Dems are going to have a nice run over the next decade.

we have only ourselves to blame, too…

731 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:32:02pm

re: #728 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hoops! I’ve got an idea!

Take a hand-painted sign with the word “Hoops!” on it. That way we’ll watch for ya.

And it fits!!!

732 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:32:06pm

re: #723 pingjockey

I go visit a guy with a calculator tomorrow. He knows what’s up.

733 wee fury  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:32:12pm

re: #719 albusteve

don’t know shit from shinola

A relative of mine used to say that all the time. Ahhh, memories. :-)

734 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:32:26pm

re: #732 Killgore Trout

I go visit a guy with a calculator tomorrow. He knows what’s up.

LOL

735 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:32:41pm

re: #717 Killgore Trout

I’m drunk and doing my taxes. Wheee!

That. Has. To. Be. The. Funniest. Post. I. Have. Ever. Read.

736 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:33:03pm

re: #731 Cannadian Club Akbar

And it fits!!!

I know! Right?!

737 darthstar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:33:17pm

okay…time to take a break from the internets…take care, all.

738 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:33:30pm

re: #732 Killgore Trout

Awww.

739 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:33:47pm

re: #717 Killgore Trout

Your tomatoes, fruit & veg. aren’t children & aren’t a deduction, BTW.
LOL!

740 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:33:52pm

Hoops - what game is this again? when? Must watch tv.

741 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:34:04pm

75 movie remakes and reboots currently in the works

Some make me say “yippie”, while others just make me a sad panda.

742 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:34:29pm

re: #726 Gus 802

Calizona

//

Phoenix is a stop over for Californians trying to get into New Mexico…they know we have a paradise over here and they want to come here and ruin it for us…relentless liberals, trash every city they invade

743 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:34:34pm

The influence of THE ISLAND is far weirder than you can imagine.

744 freetoken  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:34:38pm

For the real hard-core science nerds out there: I’ve been viewing the recordings from this weeks Exoplanets Rising: Astronomy and Planetary Science at the Crossroads at UCSB. Some of the presentations are approachable by the layman with at least a minimal astronomy background.

Exoplanetology is a hot topic right now, with lots of discoveries pouring in. Some of the discoveries are very challenging for the planet theorists.

We’re probably a couple of years away from when one of the research groups (likely working with the Kepler satellite data) announces an Earth-type (mass, density, nitrogen atmosphere with trace water and CO2) planet in star’s habitable zone, but that time is coming. It will be a red-letter day in the field of science, though it will likely also be a day of angst in certain corners of the American culture.

745 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:35:05pm

re: #741 Slumbering Behemoth

75 movie remakes and reboots currently in the works

Some make me say “yippie”, while others just make me a sad panda.

There is a reason I haven’t been to a movie in 9-10 years.:(

746 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:35:11pm

re: #732 Killgore Trout
Kewl. I was watching msnbc for my daily torture session and Rachel Maddow had a thing about some of our congress critters getting subsidized housing basically and not paying for it. 1700 bucks
a month for a one bedroom apt. in DC and these guys were getting the same apt with maid service and food for 950 bucks. I need to get elected to congress!

747 freetoken  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:35:24pm

re: #712 Killgore Trout

… The mandate for buying insurance and the national exchange were originally Republican ideas. …

Shhh….

748 HoosierHoops  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:35:50pm

re: #728 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hoops! I’ve got an idea!

Take a hand-painted sign with the word “Hoops!” on it. That way we’ll watch for ya.

The only other way I get caught on Live TV in killer seats..
Carry a sign with Reggie Miller on it..That will suck the Director right into the palm of my hand…Planning hat on

749 What, me worry?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:36:14pm

re: #695 WindUpBird

I figured Crist was presidential material and now they want to kick him out, it’s amazing.

Well at least he thinks so :) lol

Kendrick Meek (D) is my Congressman and I’m sick over losing him. He’s campaigning in N. FL where there are fewer Democrats and it’s probably a good strategy. He took his mother’s Congressional seat in 2003. He was a cop and then a state senator prior. Anyway, I don’t know how well known he is.

750 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:36:39pm

re: #748 HoosierHoops

The only other way I get caught on Live TV in killer seats..
Carry a sign with Reggie Miller on it..That will suck the Director right into the palm of my hand…Planning hat on

a little excited are you?

751 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:36:40pm

re: #730 Aceofwhat?

we have only ourselves to blame, too…

True, but there’s nothing for it. Hopefully, the GOP will stay strong enough to block the worst Democratic stuff, but we won’t get the White House again until the Bad Craziness abates. After Carter, it took 3 elections before the Dems won again. It may take Republicans just as lone.

752 Cato the Elder  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:37:03pm

re: #652 The Sanity Inspector

I just don’t like it when people carry on as if no one in the entire history of the country before them ever thought of helping people.

What I never got about the anti-HCR people was (is) the logical disconnects in their arguments.

On the one hand, it’s “health care is not a right, so the system doesn’t need fixing.”

On the other, “no one is denied health care in this country - all’s ya hafta do is go to the ER.”

So which is it?

And shouldn’t the people who honestly believe it’s not a right be out there fighting against “free” visits to the ER?

753 swamprat  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:37:12pm

re: #742 albusteve


Hey. Give me a puff.

754 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:38:49pm

re: #749 marjoriemoon

Well at least he thinks so :) lol

Kendrick Meek (D) is my Congressman and I’m sick over losing him. He’s campaigning in N. FL where there are fewer Democrats and it’s probably a good strategy. He took his mother’s Congressional seat in 2003. He was a cop and then a state senator prior. Anyway, I don’t know how well known he is.

He’ll be known as “The Guy Who Lost by a Bunch.” Sorry to harsh your buzz.

755 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:39:25pm

re: #739 Floral Giraffe

Your tomatoes, fruit & veg. aren’t children & aren’t a deduction, BTW.
LOL!

They should be, damnit! We might have some late frost here later this week. My transplanted tomatoes and peppers need subsidies!

756 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:39:28pm

re: #742 albusteve

Phoenix is a stop over for Californians trying to get into New Mexico…they know we have a paradise over here and they want to come here and ruin it for us…relentless liberals, trash every city they invade

We had a lot of Texans coming into Colorado. Later it was a lot of Californians. Mixed bag and a lot that bought houses new or old which was good when things were hot. Positive growth means more money for me and everyone else. In the city you get the liberal Californians and out in the burbs and beyond more conservative. So that remained static. I went from New Jersey to California, back to New Jersey for a few months and then here.

757 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:39:29pm

re: #748 HoosierHoops

Let us know!

758 Aceofwhat?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:39:53pm

re: #749 marjoriemoon

Well at least he thinks so :) lol

Kendrick Meek (D) is my Congressman and I’m sick over losing him. He’s campaigning in N. FL where there are fewer Democrats and it’s probably a good strategy. He took his mother’s Congressional seat in 2003. He was a cop and then a state senator prior. Anyway, I don’t know how well known he is.

the less Chicago politics in FL the better//

759 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:40:02pm

re: #752 Cato the Elder

What I never got about the anti-HCR people was (is) the logical disconnects in their arguments.

On the one hand, it’s “health care is not a right, so the system doesn’t need fixing.”

On the other, “no one is denied health care in this country - all’s ya hafta do is go to the ER.”

So which is it?

And shouldn’t the people who honestly believe it’s not a right be out there fighting against “free” visits to the ER?

appears you hang out with a lot of simpltons…bet you shine in your crowd…anyway there is a lot in between no reform and it’s not a right so do nothing…I cannot think of one instance here, where somebody denied HCR is not needed, so do nothing

760 What, me worry?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:40:21pm

re: #754 Cannadian Club Akbar

He’ll be known as “The Guy Who Lost by a Bunch.” Sorry to harsh your buzz.

It ain’t over till the fat lady sings!

761 Uninformed Opinion  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:40:31pm

re: #746 pingjockey

Kewl. I was watching msnbc for my daily torture session and Rachel Maddow had a thing about some of our congress critters getting subsidized housing basically and not paying for it. 1700 bucks
a month for a one bedroom apt. in DC and these guys were getting the same apt with maid service and food for 950 bucks. I need to get elected to congress!

Im watching it now, I like that its a group of pastors leading the charge against junk like this.

762 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:40:52pm

re: #745 Cannadian Club Akbar

There is a reason I haven’t been to a movie in 9-10 years.:(

My excuse is finances. Plus, if I wait for it to come to DVD, I can smoke and drink whatever I want while watching it.

Also, I can pee whenever I want without missing anything. Sometimes I even pause it and head to the bathroom to do that./

I still have a free movie pass leftover from last year’s x-mas present. I am debating on seeing either “Kick-Ass” or “Clash of the Titans”.

763 What, me worry?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:40:59pm

re: #754 Cannadian Club Akbar

He’ll be known as “The Guy Who Lost by a Bunch.” Sorry to harsh your buzz.

Actually, a Research 2000 poll had him looking better than I expected. Let me see if I can find it.

764 HoosierHoops  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:41:40pm

re: #750 albusteve

a little excited are you?

Final Four weekend..4 free dinners and 4 free tickets Sunday night for a NBA game..Free music all weekend long..Butler playing Saturday..
Somebody catch me..I may faint! I’m flying back here for the 2012 Super Bowl..Indy is a great town for Sports…The Amateur Sports Capital of the World.. I’ll kind of miss Indy..Good town overall.. I give it a 3 out of 5 stars

765 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:41:41pm

I just set my alarm… oh shit.

G’night Knuckleheads…

And, G’night Elizabeth.

766 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:42:01pm

If something is a “right” why do you have to pay for it?

767 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:42:38pm

re: #766 pingjockey

If something is a “right” why do you have to pay for it?

Typically. Guns aren’t free. ;)

768 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:42:46pm

re: #747 freetoken

Shhh…

…and I think it really locks in the presidency in 2012 for Obama. Mitt is out because he’s one of the chief architects of Obamacare. Anyone who’s proposed or endorsed a real life plausible healtchare solution in the past is toast. Sarah Palin, Mike Huckabee and Ron Paul are pretty much the only ones left. The primaries are going to be a load of laughs.

769 swamprat  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:42:51pm

re: #755 Killgore Trout

Great stuff spray foam; deductible
Metal roofing (have to check brands and colors)
Caulk
Insulation

ANYTHING With the words “energy star” on the label

770 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:44:07pm

My only HC post:
Guy I work (worked, maybe) with was out last week, in the hospital. Though the walk-in clinic he went to said it was pneumonia, yesterday he had open heat surgery. No insurance. No house to take. Still had the surgery.

771 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:44:11pm

re: #767 Gus 802
Nope. I ain’t buying your guns though.

772 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:44:21pm

re: #769 swamprat

Especially those things with “Energy Star” made from whale tears.

773 What, me worry?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:44:40pm

re: #758 Aceofwhat?

the less Chicago politics in FL the better//

FL doesn’t have a lot of nepotism as I can recall.

Carrie Meek was amazing. Her office helped me out of two jams. You know the old adage, “Call your Congressman.” I moved into the district and didn’t get my mail for 8 months after. Long story, but her office got it for me in a week. The second time, I never got my income tax refund and she got it for me, also within days. Much coolness.

774 freetoken  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:44:48pm

re: #768 Killgore Trout

The primaries are going to be a load of laughs.


We’ll be waiting… for the “do you believe in evolution” question at the next GOP contenders “debate”. You think they’ll finally get to 0% raising their hands?

775 HoosierHoops  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:44:51pm

re: #766 pingjockey

If something is a “right” why do you have to pay for it?

Our rights are paid for in American Blood…
God rest their souls

776 charlesincharge  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:45:05pm

re: #572 marjoriemoon

hehe Kill em all and let God sort it out! (I think is the moral of the story.)

I see your point. What’s the alternative? Let them kill us all and let the courts sort it out?

777 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:45:06pm

re: #768 Killgore Trout

…and I think it really locks in the presidency in 2012 for Obama. Mitt is out because he’s one of the chief architects of Obamacare. Anyone who’s proposed or endorsed a real life plausible healtchare solution in the past is toast. Sarah Palin, Mike Huckabee and Ron Paul are pretty much the only ones left. The primaries are going to be a load of laughs.

You’re likely right. Anyone not screaming “Repeal!” seems to get called a RINO.

778 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:45:19pm

re: #756 Gus 802

We had a lot of Texans coming into Colorado. Later it was a lot of Californians. Mixed bag and a lot that bought houses new or old which was good when things were hot. Positive growth means more money for me and everyone else. In the city you get the liberal Californians and out in the burbs and beyond more conservative. So that remained static. I went from New Jersey to California, back to New Jersey for a few months and then here.

I lived in Denver in the 70s…Coloradans generally hated Texans and for good reason, they tried to control the housing markets, were picking off small ranchers and farmers under hard times…buying up businesses in Vail, Aspen and other high profile towns….CA’s are doing the very same thing here in NM…all they seem to care about is owning shit and making profits…they are notorious for forgoing NM tradition, and always seem to be in conflict with Hispanios…they are poison…we don’t like them and don’t want them here

779 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:45:29pm

re: #769 swamprat

I’m hoping to have a greenhouse extension constructed by next winter if I can afford it. After that I’ll be able to ride out the apocalypse while munching on fresh veg all year round.

780 swamprat  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:46:16pm

re: #772 Fat Bastard Vegetarian


Good insulation?

781 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:46:39pm

re: #752 Cato the Elder

What I never got about the anti-HCR people was (is) the logical disconnects in their arguments.

On the one hand, it’s “health care is not a right, so the system doesn’t need fixing.”

On the other, “no one is denied health care in this country - all’s ya hafta do is go to the ER.”

So which is it?

And shouldn’t the people who honestly believe it’s not a right be out there fighting against “free” visits to the ER?

I would venture a guess that the substantial Dem opposition had little to do with a belief that it’s not a right.

782 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:46:44pm

re: #773 marjoriemoon

FL doesn’t have a lot of nepotism as I can recall.

Carrie Meek was amazing. Her office helped me out of two jams. You know the old adage, “Call your Congressman.” I moved into the district and didn’t get my mail for 8 months after. Long story, but her office got it for me in a week. The second time, I never got my income tax refund and she got it for me, also within days. Much coolness.

I used to live there & remember Carrie Meek.

783 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:46:56pm

re: #778 albusteve

I lived in Denver in the 70s…Coloradans generally hated Texans and for good reason, they tried to control the housing markets, were picking off small ranchers and farmers under hard times…buying up businesses in Vail, Aspen and other high profile towns…CA’s are doing the very same thing here in NM…all they seem to care about is owning shit and making profits…they are notorious for forgoing NM tradition, and always seem to be in conflict with Hispanios…they are poison…we don’t like them and don’t want them here

Actually, there’s also been that phenomenon in Oregon and Washington, CA house flippers driving up markets for people who just want a family home. Makes some northwesterners hostile to Californians.

784 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:47:13pm

re: #770 Cannadian Club Akbar

I got my hernia surgery for free. Free to me, anyway, ‘cuz I’m so poor. I guess the taxpayers covered me for that one.

re: #771 pingjockey

Nope. I ain’t buying your guns though.

I used my welfare check to buy a .38, so you kinda bought mine.
/only joking, I do not get welfare checks

785 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:47:16pm

re: #774 freetoken

We’ll be waiting… for the “do you believe in evolution” question at the next GOP contenders “debate”. You think they’ll finally get to 0% raising their hands?

Yeah, I think by the time we get down to 4-5 candidates that’s a very distinct possibility.

786 What, me worry?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:47:22pm

re: #776 charlesincharge

I see your point. What’s the alternative? Let them kill us all and let the courts sort it out?

I’m not of the belief that we should all be walking around armed to the teeth. And I say that as a gun owner.

787 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:47:57pm

re: #768 Killgore Trout

…and I think it really locks in the presidency in 2012 for Obama. Mitt is out because he’s one of the chief architects of Obamacare. Anyone who’s proposed or endorsed a real life plausible healtchare solution in the past is toast. Sarah Palin, Mike Huckabee and Ron Paul are pretty much the only ones left. The primaries are going to be a load of laughs.

the Presidency by default…how sad…once again Americans express their ineptitude…the best of the worst I guess

788 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:48:09pm

re: #775 HoosierHoops
Yep. I’ve had the honor of laying some of my comrades to rest.

789 What, me worry?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:48:22pm

re: #782 Stanley Sea

I used to live there & remember Carrie Meek.

Really? She’s still kickin. 80 something now.

790 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:48:27pm

re: #768 Killgore Trout

…and I think it really locks in the presidency in 2012 for Obama. Mitt is out because he’s one of the chief architects of Obamacare. Anyone who’s proposed or endorsed a real life plausible healtchare solution in the past is toast. Sarah Palin, Mike Huckabee and Ron Paul are pretty much the only ones left. The primaries are going to be a load of laughs.

Tough call. I think we can also add Jindal and Pawlenty.

The was I see it Palin, Huckabee, and Paul (most definitely) are not going to be good in polling. Jindal and Pawlenty will do much better. Romney shouldn’t be counted out. He still has that stage presence that can win voters. I think he’s going to run. He has the money (his own) and with the recent Citizen’s United ruling he’ll be able to attract more cash then he did in 2008. He will run contrary to the complaining of the Tea Bagging contingent and in general he will be forgiven for his past history regarding abortion and RomneyCare. So the top three will be Jindal, Pawlenty and Romney.

791 swamprat  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:49:35pm

re: #779 Killgore Trout

I have two double paned sliding door panels. That will be my solar water heater enclosure.

792 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:50:27pm

re: #790 Gus 802

IMO, Pawlenty or Romney would need a VP pick from the South to carry it.

793 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:50:46pm

re: #784 Slumbering Behemoth

I could’ve used a welfare check while out of work due to damn cancer treatment and surgery. However, if you are employed, and don’t have something like AFLAC you are on your own. Even if you haven’t worked for 4 mos out of the last 8.

794 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:51:11pm

I’m starting to fade so I’m signing off for the night. Sleep well, all.

795 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:51:39pm

Glenn Reynolds links to this dishonest post today:

[Link: www.weaselzippers.net…]

Notice that he took a screenshot of a comment I posted — and ignored the comments that followed minutes later in the same thread, in which I clearly said the flag was a Tennessee flag.

These people are so crazy it boggles the mind — and they’re liars too.

796 Aceofwhat?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:51:47pm

re: #784 Slumbering Behemoth

I got my hernia surgery for free. Free to me, anyway, ‘cuz I’m so poor. I guess the taxpayers covered me for that one.

lift with your !@#$!@#$% legs!

//

797 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:51:50pm

re: #771 pingjockey

Nope. I ain’t buying your guns though.

The theory is that all costs are spread out and shared. This HCR will not mean that people will have to directly pay for another’s insurance. The same can be said with gun ownership. There is a government infrastructure in place that supports gun ownership. This also includes wildlife management for hunting purposes. So in many ways modern day gun sportsmanship and ownership benefits from the government.

798 Aceofwhat?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:52:33pm

re: #795 Charles

yep, we had a whole discussion about it. very open and fact-seeking, from what i recall.

bastards.

799 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:53:30pm

re: #795 Charles

Well that’s just BULLSHIT!

800 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:54:04pm

re: #770 Cannadian Club Akbar

My only HC post:
Guy I work (worked, maybe) with was out last week, in the hospital. Though the walk-in clinic he went to said it was pneumonia, yesterday he had open heat surgery. No insurance. No house to take. Still had the surgery.

And may he live well & recover nicely, and not have to declare bankruptcy to pay for it. I wish him well!

801 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:54:10pm

re: #783 WindUpBird

Actually, there’s also been that phenomenon in Oregon and Washington, CA house flippers driving up markets for people who just want a family home. Makes some northwesterners hostile to Californians.

yes, I tried not to get overly expansive, but I can speak for a portion of New Mexicans…this state is stressed out…resources are limited, water is always an issue and the feds support the state with all their research etc…the Pueblo are always in need of support and mostly there is a very distinct culture here that CA’s don’t understand and just disregard…they are very aggressive and unfriendly…selfish people…certainly not everyone but enough to cop that reputation

802 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:54:15pm

re: #768 Killgore Trout

…and I think it really locks in the presidency in 2012 for Obama. Mitt is out because he’s one of the chief architects of Obamacare. Anyone who’s proposed or endorsed a real life plausible healtchare solution in the past is toast. Sarah Palin, Mike Huckabee and Ron Paul are pretty much the only ones left. The primaries are going to be a load of laughs.

You might be right if the nominations were taking place now. But in a year or more, maybe not.

803 What, me worry?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:54:45pm

re: #795 Charles

Glenn Reynolds links to this dishonest post today:

[Link: www.weaselzippers.net…]

Notice that he took a screenshot of a comment I posted — and ignored the comments that followed minutes later in the same thread, in which I clearly said the flag was a Tennessee flag.

These people are so crazy it boggles the mind — and they’re liars too.

Hat tip to Vagabond Trader. Go figger :(

804 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:54:48pm

re: #796 Aceofwhat?

lift with your !@#$!@#$% legs!

//

Heh! It’s an hereditary thing. Plus, I was lifting with my legs. Weighted lungs, to be exact. Not allowed to do that anymore. :(

805 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:54:50pm

re: #795 Charles

Charles, you’re a pony-tailed washed up has been? I didn’t get the memo. Guess I’ll flounce now. Or not.:)

806 swamprat  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:54:51pm

re: #778 albusteve

I lived in Denver in the 70s…Coloradans generally hated Texans and for good reason, they tried to control the housing markets, were picking off small ranchers and farmers under hard times…buying up businesses in Vail, Aspen and other high profile towns…CA’s are doing the very same thing here in NM…all they seem to care about is owning shit and making profits…they are notorious for forgoing NM tradition, and always seem to be in conflict with Hispanios…they are poison…we don’t like them and don’t want them here


“That’s not like it is in California”
You what is just like California? California! If that is what you want, go there!

Works with any state, to any expat trying to bring his brand of poison to any paradise.

807 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:55:09pm

re: #755 Killgore Trout

They should be, damnit! We might have some late frost here later this week. My transplanted tomatoes and peppers need subsidies!

Funny guy! Fruit subsidies? Not for you Mr. Trout.

808 Stan the Demanded Plan  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:55:10pm

Tea Party going after Republican Bob Bennett of UT

The subject line of an e-mail sent out by the group reads: “Senator Bennett in Crosshairs Today - Tea Party Express Rally.”

No, I don’t think the tea party folks are backing down from the violent rhetoric

809 HoosierHoops  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:55:20pm

re: #788 pingjockey

Yep. I’ve had the honor of laying some of my comrades to rest.

I have never been so happy in my life as when Jordan and the 3/5 got home from Fallujah..It was like the weight of the world lifted with the safe return of my son…
Not much has really bothered me the last couple of years..Life is sweet…
And I am very proud of my Son and the United States Marines..

810 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:55:25pm

FBV - check yer e-mails.

811 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:56:22pm

re: #779 Killgore Trout

Nom nom nom!

812 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:56:31pm

re: #805 Cannadian Club Akbar

Charles, you’re a pony-tailed washed up has been? I didn’t get the memo. Guess I’ll flounce now. Or not.:)

These guys are just so lame. This is the internet, Glenn! We can fact check!

813 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:56:44pm

re: #797 Gus 802
It may support gun ownership. It doesn’t buy me a new deer rifle. nor a house, nor health insurance. In fact other than my navy retirement check, the Feds, other than defending the country, don’t do a whole lot for me right now, which is just the way it is. Local gov’t totally different.

814 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:57:22pm

re: #812 WindUpBird

These guys are just so lame. This is the internet, Glenn! We can fact check!

People here are better than EVERY newspaper in the land. Props to LGF.

815 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:57:54pm

re: #814 Cannadian Club Akbar

People here are better than EVERY newspaper in the land. Props to LGF.

And Charles. Oops!!

816 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:57:54pm

re: #779 Killgore Trout

I’m hoping to have a greenhouse extension constructed by next winter if I can afford it. After that I’ll be able to ride out the apocalypse while munching on fresh veg all year round.

We’re all gonna show up at your house.
Don’t be surprised.

817 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:57:58pm

re: #795 Charles

Glenn Reynolds links to this dishonest post today:

[Link: www.weaselzippers.net…]

Notice that he took a screenshot of a comment I posted — and ignored the comments that followed minutes later in the same thread, in which I clearly said the flag was a Tennessee flag.

These people are so crazy it boggles the mind — and they’re liars too.

Weasel Zippers is, how should I put it. Mentally deficient. Looking over the comments I’d say his readership is on equal footing with this deficiency. Glenn “Shoe Shine Boy ain’t racist” Reynolds fits right in.

818 swamprat  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:58:17pm

re: #795 Charles


Can I have a side dish with my crow?

819 What, me worry?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:58:23pm

re: #812 WindUpBird

These guys are just so lame. This is the internet, Glenn! We can fact check!

You don’t need no stinkin fact checking when there are people to smear!

820 albusteve  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:58:28pm

re: #806 swamprat

“That’s not like it is in California”
You what is just like California? California! If that is what you want, go there!

Works with any state, to any expat trying to bring his brand of poison to any paradise.

I honestly try to be even tempered about this sort of thing…but it is a real phenomenon or I wouldn’t post about it

821 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:59:09pm

re: #809 HoosierHoops
My respects to you and your son. O’Reilly had a free speech piece tonight and they were focusing on that Phelps bunch. How and when can the 1st Amendment be shut down.

822 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 8:59:26pm

re: #795 Charles

Geez, what a bag of soggy dicks. It’s easy to see how one could make that mistake when looking at the poor quality, fuzzy picture. That he points to one comment without acknowledging your later correction prove he has absolutely no integrity. Fook him.

823 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:01:05pm

re: #822 Slumbering Behemoth
Not to mention, at least 20 of us looked at the pic, looked through the intertubes and found other pics and figured out what the flag was. It is total BS.

824 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:02:24pm

BBL. Lost is almost on, and wow, Shannen Doherty is still HAWT!

825 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:03:31pm

re: #813 pingjockey

It may support gun ownership. It doesn’t buy me a new deer rifle. nor a house, nor health insurance. In fact other than my navy retirement check, the Feds, other than defending the country, don’t do a whole lot for me right now, which is just the way it is. Local gov’t totally different.

Right. But in the example of hunting a lot of people pay taxes to support fish and game projects that they never benefit from or utilize. What would happen if they decided to reject sustaining such projects? This includes a lot of state and Federal projects. Then you have to factor in law enforcement costs required for the management of gun ownership in the general population. There are legal aspects. When someone even get injured or maimed accidentally those costs are factored into societal costs in monetary terms.

826 swamprat  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:03:54pm

re: #795 Charles


Do a thread. Will give you cred and draw more traffic.

A little sarcastic breast beating would be a nice touch.

“Oh! How could I have been so wrong? This sort of thing NEVER happens at tea parties!”

link. link. link.

827 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:04:47pm

Gord night LGF

828 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:07:54pm

re: #825 Gus 802
Got you. I’m just in a crappy mood. Play by the rules, get sick, and now more than likely will have to declare bankruptcy becuase we couldn’t pay all the bills on time and since I’m a law abiding taxpayer I can count on NO help from any state or Fed agency.

829 HoosierHoops  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:08:00pm

re: #821 pingjockey

My respects to you and your son. O’Reilly had a free speech piece tonight and they were focusing on that Phelps bunch. How and when can the 1st Amendment be shut down.

I don’t know.. I know after 7 months of Jordan calling us on Sat phones from roof tops in Fallujah at 3am.. There were fire fights in Fallujah beyond what most people don’t have any idea about.. If Jordan would have died and came home to such ugly hate by Americans it would hurt me deeply.. But I would protect him speaking of his honor and courage..And I swear to God..I’d talk about his virtues with much more passion than those bitches..
As my witness

830 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:08:03pm

re: #826 swamprat

Do a thread. Will give you cred and draw more traffic.

A little sarcastic breast beating would be a nice touch.

“Oh! How could I have been so wrong? This sort of thing NEVER happens at tea parties!”

link. link. link.

Yeah. Weasel Idiot should know that Tennessee has two “s”s.

831 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:09:53pm

re: #829 HoosierHoops
Yep. I joined the Patroit Guard Riders when I saw what those “people” were doing. I have a feeling Fred Phelps isn’t going to end up where he thinks he is when he goes to his reward.

832 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:10:11pm

re: #828 pingjockey

Got you. I’m just in a crappy mood. Play by the rules, get sick, and now more than likely will have to declare bankruptcy becuase we couldn’t pay all the bills on time and since I’m a law abiding taxpayer I can count on NO help from any state or Fed agency.

I understand. I’m in that middle are income wise and could never afford health insurance or qualify for any government health program. I’ve paid for that over the years in my declining health. Now, with the personal mandate. Well, I’ve got to figure out how to afford health insurance come 2013.

833 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:10:37pm

re: #832 Gus 802

middle are area

PIMF

834 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:12:21pm

re: #832 Gus 802
I have insurance through work, but it’s the day to day stuff that kicked our butts. We’ll get through it, but anyone who thinks the HCR is a panacea and will fix the health care system overnight is delusional.

835 What, me worry?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:13:24pm

re: #832 Gus 802

I understand. I’m in that middle are income wise and could never afford health insurance or qualify for any government health program. I’ve paid for that over the years in my declining health. Now, with the personal mandate. Well, I’ve got to figure out how to afford health insurance come 2013.

I don’t know if this is helpful to you.

Q. I don’t have health insurance. How soon will the new law help me?

The answer depends on your age and reasons for not having insurance. If you haven’t had insurance for six months, and you can’t afford or don’t qualify for insurance because of a pre-existing medical problem, you may be eligible for a new federal “high risk” pool to be offered by the end of June.

The cost of the monthly premiums hasn’t been announced, but the rates are to be based on a “standard population,” suggesting they will be based on a healthier group than typically used to calculate premiums for high-risk plans. On average, an enrollee won’t pay more than 35 percent of covered benefits, and annual out-of-pocket costs won’t be more than $5,950 for individuals and $11,900 for families. In addition, there are no lifetime limits — meaning the policy won’t be canceled if someone requires expensive medical treatment.
[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

836 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:13:35pm

re: #834 pingjockey

I’m pretty sure that the consensus of the lefty part of this blog is that its a wonderful step in the right direction, and the beginning of further, better reform.

837 pingjockey  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:13:37pm

G’night folks.

838 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:13:53pm

Good nighty, Honcos. I have the morning shift, so….:)

839 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:14:18pm

re: #832 Gus 802

I wish you the best of luck!
Having spent a couple of days trying to figure out my own health care dilemma, it just SUCKS! So, may your search be easier & less expensive than mine!

840 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:14:51pm

re: #813 pingjockey

It may support gun ownership. It doesn’t buy me a new deer rifle. nor a house, nor health insurance. In fact other than my navy retirement check, the Feds, other than defending the country, don’t do a whole lot for me right now, which is just the way it is. Local gov’t totally different.

Ever drive on an interstate?

841 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:15:06pm

re: #834 pingjockey

I have insurance through work, but it’s the day to day stuff that kicked our butts. We’ll get through it, but anyone who thinks the HCR is a panacea and will fix the health care system overnight is delusional.

I agree. In the long run it won’t be the smoking gun that fixes health care and neither will it be as bad as a lot of people think. I guess we should look at the benefits that can be gained through it.

842 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:15:35pm

re: #813 pingjockey

It may support gun ownership. It doesn’t buy me a new deer rifle. nor a house, nor health insurance. In fact other than my navy retirement check, the Feds, other than defending the country, don’t do a whole lot for me right now, which is just the way it is. Local gov’t totally different.

Also, there’s this thing called the internet, it’s pretty cool and it wasn’t local government that started it up ;-)

843 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:16:37pm

re: #840 WindUpBird

so do you think things like interstates, the ‘net, the electricity grid, etc, just dissapear for people inbetween times they’re mentioned? >>

844 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:16:38pm

re: #834 pingjockey

I have insurance through work, but it’s the day to day stuff that kicked our butts. We’ll get through it, but anyone who thinks the HCR is a panacea and will fix the health care system overnight is delusional.
I don’t know too many people who believe this.

I believe HCR is A) a foot in the door to start fixing the system and B) a modest improvement.

I like modest improvements :)

845 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:16:48pm

re: #843 windsagio

so do you think things like interstates, the ‘net, the electricity grid, etc, just dissapear for people inbetween times they’re mentioned? >>

Yes :D

846 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:17:00pm

re: #844 WindUpBird

shh, don’t ruin the strawman!

847 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:17:21pm

re: #846 windsagio

altho’ I already did kinda I guess >>

848 HoosierHoops  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:17:39pm

re: #831 pingjockey

Yep. I joined the Patroit Guard Riders when I saw what those “people” were doing. I have a feeling Fred Phelps isn’t going to end up where he thinks he is when he goes to his reward.

Thanks Ping..
The pain Families feel is beyond what we know when a Military member pays the ultimate price for our freedom..
Our freedoms we take for granted every day was paid for..
Drop by drop..Tear by tear

849 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:18:01pm

I guess I just don’t get the whole LOCAL gubment is good and FEDERAL gubment is evil! thing. Just cannot relate, don’t understand it.

850 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:18:14pm

re: #841 Gus 802

I agree. In the long run it won’t be the smoking gun that fixes health care and neither will it be as bad as a lot of people think. I guess we should look at the benefits that can be gained through it.

I honestly think, that if “we” were to look long & hard at the way our health care is perfomed & administered, we could cut at least 25% from the bill. Easily, and without cutting services. It might be “billing on line”, or appointments via email, or whatever, but, the cost savings are EASILY there.

851 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:19:08pm

re: #835 marjoriemoon

I don’t know if this is helpful to you.

Q. I don’t have health insurance. How soon will the new law help me?

The answer depends on your age and reasons for not having insurance. If you haven’t had insurance for six months, and you can’t afford or don’t qualify for insurance because of a pre-existing medical problem, you may be eligible for a new federal “high risk” pool to be offered by the end of June.

The cost of the monthly premiums hasn’t been announced, but the rates are to be based on a “standard population,” suggesting they will be based on a healthier group than typically used to calculate premiums for high-risk plans. On average, an enrollee won’t pay more than 35 percent of covered benefits, and annual out-of-pocket costs won’t be more than $5,950 for individuals and $11,900 for families. In addition, there are no lifetime limits — meaning the policy won’t be canceled if someone requires expensive medical treatment.
[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

$5950! Yikes. Well, I’ll have to make some serious lifestyle changes. So this starts in 2013?

852 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:19:21pm

re: #850 Floral Giraffe

I honestly think, that if “we” were to look long & hard at the way our health care is perfomed & administered, we could cut at least 25% from the bill. Easily, and without cutting services. It might be “billing on line”, or appointments via email, or whatever, but, the cost savings are EASILY there.

how do we bring the pressures to bear to make that happen?

That’s what the HCR bill is trying to do.

853 windsagio  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:19:30pm

re: #849 WindUpBird

I really think its the avativistic (sp) ideal of rugged frontier communities doing their best on their own, bla bla bla.

854 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:21:56pm

re: #851 Gus 802

For $400 a month, my annual max out of pocket is $7500.
Less, what isn’t covered, naturally!
I’ll skip the details, because they suck. Generally

855 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:24:36pm

re: #852 WindUpBird

I don’t know. I feel very hopeless in this whole conversation.
I would very much like to have access to good health care, but there is only so much money for it.

What percent of your income/budget is available for healthcare?
What percent are you currently paying?

856 What, me worry?  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:24:50pm

re: #851 Gus 802

$5950! Yikes. Well, I’ll have to make some serious lifestyle changes. So this starts in 2013?

I think that’s if you have a job, but I can’t be sure. The paragraph above says there’s provisions for the uninsured and unemployed starting in June.

857 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:26:59pm

OMG James Baker is a RINO [Link: www.huffingtonpost.com…]

858 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:30:11pm

re: #855 Floral Giraffe

I don’t know. I feel very hopeless in this whole conversation.
I would very much like to have access to good health care, but there is only so much money for it.

What percent of your income/budget is available for healthcare?
What percent are you currently paying?

well, I have an entire JOB I am at just for the health care. and my health care at that job still costs me around $250 a month. My income varies a lot depending on what contract I’m on. If I had affordable HC that was portable (say around $500 a month?) then i could afford to quit the day job and just do my art and freelance/contract work full time.

859 charlesincharge  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:41:24pm

re: #786 marjoriemoon

I’m not of the belief that we should all be walking around armed to the teeth. And I say that as a gun owner.

Agreed.I’ll get a gun but won’t go for the “carry permit”.

860 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:41:28pm

re: #849 WindUpBird

I guess I just don’t get the whole LOCAL gubment is good and FEDERAL gubment is evil! thing. Just cannot relate, don’t understand it.

For me, it has to do with responsiveness and accountability. Local gov’t is easier to deal with when you need something.

861 reine.de.tout  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:44:36pm

re: #858 WindUpBird

well, I have an entire JOB I am at just for the health care. and my health care at that job still costs me around $250 a month. My income varies a lot depending on what contract I’m on. If I had affordable HC that was portable (say around $500 a month?) then i could afford to quit the day job and just do my art and freelance/contract work full time.

WUB - I worked with a man who was a rancher all his life, and when his sons didn’t want to ranch, why, they found oil on his property. He quit ranching and got a state job, used that salary (and the job benefits) for insurance (and the rest of his pay went to pay part of the estimated taxes on his oil income).

He kept the state job and retired from it solely for the purpose of having the insurance.

862 Gus  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:49:46pm

Guess we were just hit with narcolepsy gas. Or something. Wake up somnambulists!

863 swamprat  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 9:50:48pm

Interesting article

Hard to read. really worth it.
Second column at “caleb’s barber shop”

864 ryannon  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 10:15:21pm

re: #60 Decatur Deb

This shop is always fighting for the #1 or 2 spot in the world. Their best flavor is rice.

[Link: www.tripfilms.com…]

In Paris - and possibly among the best in the world, is the legendary Berthillon, a family-run glacier for several generations. In faithful tradition to the also legendary French disregard for customer service, Berthillon, located on the lovely Ile de Saint-Louis, closes down in the summer months - just when demand becomes the strongest.

Their ice-cream is probably the best I’ve ever tasted, and I’m a total ice-cream freak. If there were rehab clinics for ice-cream abuse, I’d constantly be in and out of them….

[Link: ishare.rediff.com…]

865 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 10:39:36pm

re: #209 reine.de.tout

g’night, SFZ.
And again, sorry about my grumpiness earlier.
I’m feeling all guilty and shit …

Do not feel guilty. You are allowed to be grumpy. I am grumpy all the time! Is OK. You get rest. I was not damaged by grumpiness!

866 Obdicut  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 10:39:44pm

re: #860 reine.de.tout

I don’t think gay men in Mississippi agree with you, Reine.

Local government is responsive if you have influence in local politics.

867 Obdicut  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 10:40:08pm

re: #866 Obdicut

Whoops, forgot about your bad day, Reine.

Sorry for harshing on you.

868 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 10:54:50pm

re: #615 albusteve

nobody knows how much oil is down there…probably a lot more than you think

I think this is how that Al Capone’s Vault show got started.

869 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 10:55:52pm

re: #625 marjoriemoon

My mom-in-law is with Kaiser. She has a lot of health issues and swears by them. Takes care of all her needs.

I love them, and they took care of my grandma her whole life. A good organization.

870 Obdicut  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 10:59:04pm

re: #869 SanFranciscoZionist

They just misdiagnosed tuberculosis as pneumonia, treated it with steroids, and hastened my friend’s death.

I know it’s just coincidence, but this is my second friend to suffer terribly at their hands, from a mistake.

871 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Mar 30, 2010 11:00:38pm

re: #870 Obdicut

They just misdiagnosed tuberculosis as pneumonia, treated it with steroids, and hastened my friend’s death.

I know it’s just coincidence, but this is my second friend to suffer terribly at their hands, from a mistake.

I’m so sorry.

872 RogueOne  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:20:48am

re: #857 WindUpBird

OMG James Baker is a RINO [Link: www.huffingtonpost.com…]

Old dead thread but had to chime in on Baker. Baker is a fool and he has always been a fool. His version of a “realist” foreign policy gave this country more than one black eye by dealing with tyrants in order to maintain a status-quo. I think he’s a dirtbag.


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