Spider-Man #40, The Origin of the Green Goblin (September 1966)

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Today’s photo from the Lizard Collection: issue #40 of The Amazing Spider-Man, published in September 1966, billed on the cover as “The End of the Green Goblin” (but it wasn’t, of course — super-villains never die). This issue actually told the story of the origin of the Green Goblin: industrialist Norman Osborn, driven insane by an experimental serum that also gave him superhuman strength and intelligence.

The Lizard Collection’s copy is in terrific shape, and is headed to the CGC for grading.

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1 Slightly Drooling Love Child of Beck  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:04:33pm

out of character...

For the record, your comic collection would make anyone who knows anything about them drool with envy and have conniptions of jealousy.

2 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:06:07pm

Today's thought
Don't listen to what I say
Listen to what I mean

3 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:16:05pm

re: #2 HoosierHoops

Heh. My grandma says something like that all the time. "Don't go by what I say, go by what I mean", usually when she says wants to go to Wal-Mart when she actually means she wants to go to Burger King.

4 Kragar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:17:28pm

Always preferred the Batman and Iron Man kinds of heroes. Regular people who trained themselves or used their knowledge to become heroes, rather than the whole "OK, you got exposed to Serum X, so now you have super powers".

5 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:20:11pm

re: #4 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Um, that's "Chemical X", not "Serum X". Just sayin'.

6 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:21:12pm

re: #1 Slightly Drooling Love Child of Beck

just type //OOC and I am sure people will get it LOL.

7 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:21:35pm

re: #4 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I was a big fan of Ghost Rider and Spawn type super heroes myself.

8 Kragar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:24:55pm

re: #7 Dreggas

I was a big fan of Ghost Rider and Spawn type super heroes myself.

The whole deal with the devil kind of guys? Yeah, those guys weren't half bad.

Crappy movies though.

9 freetoken  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:28:58pm

Wonder if Fox News is running this as a PSA?

Youtube Video
10 The Curmudgeon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:31:38pm

All old comics are good, but I'm a Tales from the Crypt fan.

11 ckb  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:32:56pm

Unlike many of the other marvel titles from this period, ASM is in high enough demand that CGC graded book in the VF 8.0 area are worth grading, with prices in the $250-$300 range. Your copy looks like it could be better than that.

Anyone lucky enough to have NM 9.4 or better copies of ASM under issue 50 have thousand dollar books each. The 9.4 grade is very unforgiving though, as you may expect, given those prices.

Good luck!

What are your plans for them? Have you figured out how you are going to sell them? Slabbed books are similar to commodities, since they have been independently assessed for condition by experts, it takes a lot of the guesswork out of buying. A number of sites have sprung up that act as middlemen in the transaction for a 10% (or so) fee. ComicLink and ComicConnect come to mind. eBay is a viable venue for slabbed books as well.

12 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:35:21pm

Anyone who wants an interesting read about censorship and moral panic should read up on that little logo on the upper right of Charles' comic, the "COmics Code Authority" and Fredric Wertham, who basically censored the comic book industry. And eventually gave rise to underground comics who bypassed the distro channels of 4-color books.

13 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:36:21pm

re: #7 Dreggas

I was a big fan of Ghost Rider and Spawn type super heroes myself.

Indie b/w Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles books for me! I was also into the New Mutants :D

14 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:39:51pm

re: #8 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I wasn't too disappointed in either of the movies, but yes the comics were far better. I liked the deal with the devil guys a lot. I was also partial to Conan.

15 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:41:37pm

re: #10 The Curmudgeon

As I said yesterday on another thread about comics. My uncle had a huge collection of Vault of Horror/Tales from the Crypt comics along with Vampirella and others. Then he found jesus and stuck them in a cardboard box under the trailer he lived in and they rotted.

16 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:42:10pm

Superman Comic Book Sold 1.5 Million

Superman Comic Book Sold 1.5 Million. A Superman comic book sold for 1.5 million dollars at an online auction. I know your asking yourself 1.5 million dollars for a comic book, but this isn’t just any comic book it’s one of the rarest Superman comic books ever.

This particular one is believed to be one of 100 left. So it makes it very rare and this comic book was in excellent condition.

17 ckb  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:42:15pm

re: #12 WindUpBird

Anyone who wants an interesting read about censorship and moral panic should read up on that little logo on the upper right of Charles' comic, the "COmics Code Authority" and Fredric Wertham, who basically censored the comic book industry. And eventually gave rise to underground comics who bypassed the distro channels of 4-color books.

Comics were the 50's version of today's video games in the terms you are talking above. Despite the issues with censorship, and similar to the arguments made against video games today, I can't help but feel Wertham was a little bit right.

"Seduction of the Innocent" while in a large part propoganda, does a good job of showing how the comic book companies took things too far in the effort to outdo each other.

In the end, though, it's all an issue of parenting in terms of a child's access to the material.

18 Kragar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:44:07pm

At one time, my dad had the biggest collection of baseball cards in all of New England. He actually had a reporter from the New York Times come and interview him about it.

Fast forward a couple years. He was away at college, Grandma thru the entire collection into the garbage, but made sure to keep the newspaper clipping about it.

19 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:44:10pm

re: #8 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The whole deal with the devil kind of guys? Yeah, those guys weren't half bad.

Crappy movies though.

The first couple of seasons of "Spawn" on HBO weren't that bad, though. At least as far as remember.

20 Kragar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:45:27pm

re: #19 Slumbering Behemoth

The first couple of seasons of "Spawn" on HBO weren't that bad, though. At least as far as remember.

The animated version wasn't bad, but the live action movie was just awful.

21 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:45:44pm

re: #18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

At one time, my dad had the biggest collection of baseball cards in all of New England. He actually had a reporter from the New York Times come and interview him about it.

Fast forward a couple years. He was away at college, Grandma thru the entire collection into the garbage, but made sure to keep the newspaper clipping about it.

dumpster diving can be very lucrative...

22 Kragar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:48:54pm

Welly welly well;

Iran Nuclear Scientist Defects to U.S. In CIA 'Intelligence Coup'

An award-winning Iranian nuclear scientist, who disappeared last year under mysterious circumstances, has defected to the CIA and been resettled in the United States, according to people briefed on the operation by intelligence officials.

The officials were said to have termed the defection of the scientist, Shahram Amiri, "an intelligence coup" in the continuing CIA operation to spy on and undermine Iran's nuclear program.

23 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:51:27pm

re: #22 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm surprised the "supreme assahola" hasn't issued a fatwa against this guy.

24 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:52:04pm

re: #22 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Welly welly well;

Iran Nuclear Scientist Defects to U.S. In CIA 'Intelligence Coup'

closely followed by CIA: Iran capable of producing nuclear weapons...

[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]

interesting...

25 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:52:19pm

Well I got a link in my email today of Irish Rose trashing me on her Blog.. I will kind of respond but won't link cause I'm not going to give her more than the 3 readers she has..
1) Yes..Last year when Charles was being attacked I joined your little group to defend what I considered unfair charges to him...For Charles..Not for you..
Once I realized you were fucking nuts I never spoke to you again...
2) HY did do me wrong by allowing me to take the fall for his blog...I took the shit..That's ok..But he sent an email to a lizard laughing about it. That pissed me off...Lot's of people know who am.. Hell Charles emailed the other day I work. He found it funny I was taking the attacks for his blog.
His cowardice for posting attacks against other blogs and hiding behind me? Pissed me off
You do understand that right? Or should I type slower for you? But that's your boy. HY...
3) It's one thing for all of seem to have stalkers...It's another thing to call for war and go on the attack on other web sites, Calling cops and shit.. It was unsavory and unprofessional.. You ain't Joan of Arc woman.
4) And to attack me about the Prayer list and my faith in God was worst of all..I could go into a how dare you...But you aren't worth a response..
Do me one last favor..Don't write about me on your blog again.. I promise never to write about you again...OK you call write one more post, Cause nobody but 3 people will read it anyway.. You can really insult me with the bluest language then that's it... Just for the following remark Irish..
You are a disgusting person and should get therapy....
Start typing away.. I won't be reading it anyway.. Lizards don't send me the link.. I could give a crap about her..
*Clears Air*
/Thank goodness that's the last post to Joan of Arc...Ms. Irish Rose
//I didn't once use Caps..This post was cold as ice...

26 Kragar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:52:30pm

re: #23 pingjockey

I'm surprised the "supreme assahola" hasn't issued a fatwa against this guy.

Probably has, while desperately trying to keep it quiet.

27 darthstar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:53:20pm

Fox goes passive-aggressive with LL Cool J.

LL Tweeted yesterday:

Fox lifted an old interview I gave in 2008 to someone else & are misrepresenting to the public in order to promote Sarah Palins Show. WOW

Fox's reaction:

"Real American Stories features uplifting tales about overcoming adversity and we believe Mr. Smith’s interview fit that criteria," read a statement from the network. "However, as it appears that Mr. Smith does not want to be associated with a program that could serve as an inspiration to others, we are cutting his interview from the special and wish him the best with his fledgling acting career."

This to a guy who's been acting in movies since the mid-'80s (Halloween: H20, Deep Blue Sea, Charlie's Angels, etc.), and whose current CBS hit, NCIS: L.A., has ratings Fox News can only dream about?


Somebody call a Waambulance.

28 Gus  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:55:15pm

re: #25 HoosierHoops

Was curious and found this:

The authors have deleted this blog. The content is no longer available.

29 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:56:50pm

Being Spiderman is just another lifestyle choice, like joining the Hutarees!

(pace Pamz Geller)

30 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:58:28pm

wow this is cool

31 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 2:59:01pm

re: #25 HoosierHoops
I'm sorry to hear about this. Sheesh, miss a few months and all hell breaks loose!

32 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:00:02pm

re: #30 Dreggas

wow this is cool

/I saw those for sale in Chinatown... was wondering what they were.

33 Kragar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:00:46pm

re: #30 Dreggas

wow this is cool

Pure evil

34 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:00:54pm

re: #27 darthstar

So they didn't ask his permission, and now they're 'cutting' him? What assholes.

35 darthstar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:01:26pm

If you haven't seen this yet...you need to.

Greta: "Senator, how much help is she to you on this campaign?"
McCain: (silence....)"Say that again?"

Stewart's "Weekend at Bernie's" comment made me bust a gut.

Comedy Central Video
36 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:01:52pm

re: #32 brookly red

Just another kind of crab/lobster/shrimp. Boil it up and chow down.

37 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:02:06pm

re: #33 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

re: #32 brookly red

I forgot to add the link to where I got the link for the pics

they found one attached to a submarine

38 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:02:08pm

re: #33 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Pure evil

/no, steamed with some lemon & butter, not bad at all...

39 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:02:37pm

This is your brain on right wing propaganda.....
Hutaree Member Angered By Fake Hamas Resettlement Bill

40 Kragar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:02:55pm

re: #34 Obdicut

So they didn't ask his permission, and now they're 'cutting' him? What assholes.

And make a snide remark over his "fledgling" acting career. He's been in various TV shows and movies for over 20 years.

41 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:03:42pm

re: #25 HoosierHoops

This post was cold as ice...

Which, in the "minds" of IR and HY, only proves beyond all doubt that you are the willing dupe and puppet of Iceweasel.

And me, and Jimmah. And Charles, who is pulling all the strings.

Irish Rose also gave me a few Parthian shots before she disappeared up the black hole of the intarwebs.

I shall be posting about that soon.

Good riddance to hysterical, self-righteously indignant purulence!

42 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:04:10pm

re: #31 pingjockey

I'm sorry to hear about this. Sheesh, miss a few months and all hell breaks loose!

Heck I never talked about it...I just never spoke to her again..but then..
Somebody sent me a link of her screed out of the blue..
That will be my only response

43 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:04:12pm

re: #39 Killgore Trout

This is your brain on right wing propaganda...
Hutaree Member Angered By Fake Hamas Resettlement Bill

Well, if it were true, I'd be pretty upset too.

/

44 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:04:32pm

re: #39 Killgore Trout
The gene pool seems a bit shallow.

45 slightly drooling love child of beck  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:05:09pm

re: #25 HoosierHoops

Well I got a link in my email today of Irish Rose trashing me on her Blog.. I will kind of respond but won't link cause I'm not going to give her more than the 3 readers she has..
1) Yes..Last year when Charles was being attacked I joined your little group to defend what I considered unfair charges to him...For Charles..Not for you..
Once I realized you were fucking nuts I never spoke to you again...
2) HY did do me wrong by allowing me to take the fall for his blog...I took the shit..That's ok..But he sent an email to a lizard laughing about it. That pissed me off...Lot's of people know who am.. Hell Charles emailed the other day I work. He found it funny I was taking the attacks for his blog.
His cowardice for posting attacks against other blogs and hiding behind me? Pissed me off
You do understand that right? Or should I type slower for you? But that's your boy. HY...
3) It's one thing for all of seem to have stalkers...It's another thing to call for war and go on the attack on other web sites, Calling cops and shit.. It was unsavory and unprofessional.. You ain't Joan of Arc woman.
4) And to attack me about the Prayer list and my faith in God was worst of all..I could go into a how dare you...But you aren't worth a response..
Do me one last favor..Don't write about me on your blog again.. I promise never to write about you again...OK you call write one more post, Cause nobody but 3 people will read it anyway.. You can really insult me with the bluest language then that's it... Just for the following remark Irish..
You are a disgusting person and should get therapy...
Start typing away.. I won't be reading it anyway.. Lizards don't send me the link.. I could give a crap about her..
*Clears Air*
/Thank goodness that's the last post to Joan of Arc...Ms. Irish Rose
//I didn't once use Caps..This post was cold as ice...

Let's say that I know the story and if I were not being schizo by posting with a reference to DAD, I would say, you have my complete support and I don't blame you one bit for writing that.

46 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:05:13pm

re: #42 HoosierHoops
Good.

47 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:05:16pm

re: #39 Killgore Trout

It's like some kind of time machine took us back to the 1990s.

48 Kragar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:05:39pm

re: #38 brookly red

/no, steamed with some lemon & butter, not bad at all...

You say that now. Wait until they trap you alone and a swarm of them launch themselves at you and burrown into the soft tissue of your face so they can lay their eggs in your brain.

49 darthstar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:05:56pm

re: #43 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, if it were true, I'd be pretty upset too.

/

To the ODS crowd, it is true.

50 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:07:30pm

re: #43 SanFranciscoZionist

Just imagine how many people out there are wound up over Death Panels or rounding up political opponents. It wouldn't be too bad if these stories were made by mistake or difference of opinion. These stories are based on outright lies.

51 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:08:01pm

re: #48 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You say that now. Wait until they trap you alone and a swarm of them launch themselves at you and burrown into the soft tissue of your face so they can lay their eggs in your brain.

no problemo... with the amount of garlic I eat

52 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:08:54pm

Speaking of outright lies.....
Hot Air falsely claims health care bill doesn't reduce deficit because it excluded "doctor fix"


In a March 30 Hot Air post, Ed Morrisey advanced the falsehood that the health care reform bill does not reduce the deficit because it did not include the so-called "doctor fix." However, there is no reason the "doctor fix" should be included in the cost of health care reform since the issue predates the health care reform debate and will need to be resolved regardless of health care reform's outcome.


I don't know why people continue to believe what they read on right wing blogs.

53 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:08:56pm

re: #27 darthstar

Fox goes passive-aggressive with LL Cool J.

LL Tweeted yesterday:


Somebody call a Waambulance.

They're trying to condescend to LL Cool J after jacking an old interview?

In the voice of Rasputin's parrot: "This can only end in tears."

54 slightly drooling love child of beck  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:09:46pm

re: #50 Killgore Trout

Just imagine how many people out there are wound up over Death Panels or rounding up political opponents. It wouldn't be too bad if these stories were made by mistake or difference of opinion. These stories are based on outright lies.

No they are not! It is all there in the plan laid out by the NWO in the design of Rockefeller Plaza!

The Death panels are real things! They came to take my poor granny. She had been turned into an otter!

sniff.

But, fortunately, those fascists were not able to get her because we gave her some herbal medicines and vitamins and she got better!

55 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:10:18pm

re: #50 Killgore Trout

I want to run as a Republican, promising that I'd make sure that there were no death panels, that Obama wasn't taking our guns, that no Hamas were being resettled, that I'd verify Obama's birth certificate, etc. etc.

Then on the day I'd elected, I'd say, "Well, I've already accomplished everything on the list, here's the proof, now time for fishing and roller derby!"

56 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:11:07pm

re: #35 darthstar

That leather outfit she's wearing makes me think of this. I am actually a bit turned on right now.

57 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:11:35pm

re: #54 slightly drooling love child of beck
An otter? That's nothing, mine was turned into a newt, but she got better.

58 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:11:45pm

re: #41 Cato the Elder

Which, in the "minds" of IR and HY, only proves beyond all doubt that you are the willing dupe and puppet of Iceweasel.

And me, and Jimmah. And Charles, who is pulling all the strings.

Irish Rose also gave me a few Parthian shots before she disappeared up the black hole of the intarwebs.

I shall be posting about that soon.

Good riddance to hysterical, self-righteously indignant purulence!


It's laughable at best and insanity at worst..
Look I am probably friends with 98% of the lizards here...As a moderate..I get along with Lefty's and righty's .. I'm not here for politics..Never have been.. I think the community here is outstanding..

59 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:12:02pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

Speaking of outright lies...
Hot Air falsely claims health care bill doesn't reduce deficit because it excluded "doctor fix"


I don't know why people continue to believe what they read on right wing blogs.

/I can't speak for others but I do it to piss you off :)

60 freetoken  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:12:07pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

I don't know why people continue to believe what they read on right wing blogs.

Don't underestimate the need to reinforce one's own belief system!

Speaking of HCR lies, the Death-Panels-liar-in-chief, The Sarah Palin, is tweeting on the President's off shore drilling policy. Apparently the new policy is some sort of master plot to deceive us all, or something like that.

61 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:13:26pm

re: #60 freetoken

Don't underestimate the need to reinforce one's own belief system!

Speaking of HCR lies, the Death-Panels-liar-in-chief, The Sarah Palin, is tweeting on the President's off shore drilling policy. Apparently the new policy is some sort of master plot to deceive us all, or something like that.


"There's no pleasing some people."

"That's what Jesus said, Sir!!"

62 RogueOne  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:15:32pm

Having them graded by CGC is the way to go, I hope you fill us in on the ratings when you get them back. This is another one I"d be tempted to keep.

63 Political Atheist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:15:34pm

Hey, uh maybe it's just here but my Google is down. 502 server error on a couple search terms. I am not in China...

64 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:15:43pm

time to primary Corker

65 Gus  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:15:51pm

re: #39 Killgore Trout

This is your brain on right wing propaganda...
Hutaree Member Angered By Fake Hamas Resettlement Bill

Oh brother.

Guess who picked that up? Free Republic.

One of the comments:

What a load of Ship!

A thousand years ago, the precursors to the G7 rode against the same fools that we the tax payers are now paying to import??

We risked lives then and now to PAY to RELOCATE these barbarians into our society????

WHERE does this relocation make ANY sense???

My guess....
Only if you want to destroy America from within

Some of the commentators pick up that it's fake. Only to be ignored by subsequent commentators.

66 darthstar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:18:07pm

re: #64 Dreggas

time to primary Corker

There goes his invite to the Palin BBQ and book burning.

67 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:18:26pm

re: #65 Gus 802

Some of the commentators pick up that it's fake. Only to be ignored by subsequent commentators.

Ah, yes. The thousand-year war against...Hamas.

Which was founded in 1987, but never mind that.

68 Slightly Drooling Love Child of Beck  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:19:03pm

re: #57 pingjockey

An otter? That's nothing, mine was turned into a newt, but she got better.

And I wish we had old fashioned values like our dear friends the Saudis, because then we would burn the witch!

They really are going to decapitate a convicted witch soon.

This is why I will always support big oil. You just simply don't have crime or evil in a nation that decides to live by proper values! I fill up my hummer everyday and wish we could be as firm in our principles as they are in theirs! I am honored to support a king who was chosen by God to rule a nation. Real Americans understand that God chooses rulers and not a bunch of whiny greenie commies.

I fill up my hummer everyday, watch the birds wheeze and I am proud to be an American and know I stuck it to those hippies!

69 webevintage  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:20:18pm

re: #27 darthstar

Fox goes passive-aggressive with LL Cool J.

hahahahahahaha
the story has gotten even better.

Now Toby Keith's "people" have responded with:
""We were never contacted by Fox," Keith's spokesman said. "I have no idea what interview it's taken from. They're promoting this like it's a brand new interview."
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

This Palin shit just never gets old.

70 Gus  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:20:47pm

re: #67 SanFranciscoZionist

Ah, yes. The thousand-year war against...Hamas.

Which was founded in 1987, but never mind that.

That only 161 dog years. /

More Freeper rage:

This should be called the “Trojan Horse Act,” by which BO will sneak our enemies into our country. Shame on Congress and the American people for endangering our children and grandchildren in this despicable manner. When will patriots rise up against this dictator?

71 Political Atheist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:22:14pm

This weird, can anyone else get [Link: www.Google.com?...] I got nothing.

72 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:22:18pm

re: #67 SanFranciscoZionist

Ah, yes. The thousand-year war against...Hamas.

Which was founded in 1987, but never mind that.

/I was cracking up in the store today when a foreign student (Korean?) was asking the clerk for extra hamas on his falafel...

73 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:22:30pm

re: #69 webevintage

hahahahahahaha
the story has gotten even better.

Now Toby Keith's "people" have responded with:
""We were never contacted by Fox," Keith's spokesman said. "I have no idea what interview it's taken from. They're promoting this like it's a brand new interview."
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

This Palin shit just never gets old.

I'm sure they'll just say petulently that if Mr. Keith doesn't want to be involved with a really positive project, that's his loss, and then wish him well with his fledgling singing career.

This could go on for months.

74 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:22:55pm

re: #67 SanFranciscoZionist

Ah, yes. The thousand-year war against...Hamas.

Which was founded in 1987, but never mind that.

The obvious conclusion is obvious. That person was not talking about just Hamas, but every evil arab/muslim (synonymous in their minds) throughout history.

75 webevintage  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:23:01pm

re: #70 Gus 802

Shame on Congress and the American people for endangering our children and grandchildren in this despicable manner. When will patriots rise up against this dictator?


Oh, maybe they should be the first to rise up?
they seem to keep expecting someone else to do it for them.
Where's that old "pull yourself up by your bootstraps revolution startin' spirit" you hear so much about?

76 Kragar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:23:29pm

Oh boy, expect a flood of purges coming out soon:

Prosecutor: Agent infiltrated Christian militia

An undercover federal agent infiltrated a Christian militia group that authorities say plotted to incite violent revolt, and the agent built explosives under the direction of the group's suspected ringleader, a prosecutor said Wednesday.

Arguing for the detention of alleged Hutaree leader David Brian Stone, 44, and six other members, Assistant U.S. Attorney Ronald Waterstreet said the agent accompanied Stone and others in a van as they tried to attend a Feb. 6 meeting of militias in Kentucky.

They turned back in Indianapolis because of bad weather, but the agent recorded Stone reading a speech, Waterstreet said. In the recording, played in U.S. District Court in Detroit, a speaker identified as Stone says "now it's time to strike and take our nation back so we will be free of tyranny."

77 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:23:55pm

re: #75 webevintage

They would rise up, but it might endanger their government disability checks.

78 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:24:05pm

re: #69 webevintage

hahahahahahaha
the story has gotten even better.

Now Toby Keith's "people" have responded with:
""We were never contacted by Fox," Keith's spokesman said. "I have no idea what interview it's taken from. They're promoting this like it's a brand new interview."
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

This Palin shit just never gets old.

You know that funnier than shit Tweeter page #shitmydadsays?
Why isn't there a mocking tweeter page called #shitsarahsays?
That would be way more funny the ugly personal attacks she takes..
I mean there is just a ton of material to work with

79 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:24:18pm

re: #71 Rightwingconspirator

Works for me. You need to get out of China, bro.
/

80 webevintage  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:24:49pm

#70
Ugh.
Gus did not say that, he was quoting from some idiot freeper.

81 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:24:57pm

re: #76 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

What kind of pussy-ass militia is stopped by bad weather?

Glad to hear the informant wasn't an instigator but instead was told to make the bombs. That's helpful.

82 Uninformed Opinion  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:25:09pm

re: #77 Obdicut

They would rise up, but it might endanger their government disability checks.

They would grab their bootstraps if they could reach them...

83 Gus  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:25:35pm

Blogger at Red State picked it up.

Again someone points to Fact Check and then it's ignored.

Nothing like the door to the henhouse being left wide open so the foxes can just come on in whenever they want.

Isn’t Hamas still on the terrorist organizations list? If so, how can we allow their people to freely enter the US? If not, why not?

84 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:25:45pm

re: #78 HoosierHoops

There is one it's called Cable News.

85 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:25:51pm

re: #68 Slightly Drooling Love Child of Beck
Well played!

86 darthstar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:26:01pm

re: #69 webevintage

hahahahahahaha
the story has gotten even better.

Now Toby Keith's "people" have responded with:
""We were never contacted by Fox," Keith's spokesman said. "I have no idea what interview it's taken from. They're promoting this like it's a brand new interview."
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

This Palin shit just never gets old.

Ha! When you've lost Toby Keith, you know you're in deep shit. At least Sarah will still be able to interview Bristol, who showed that you can get knocked up, barely finish high school, and if you have the right parents, get a PR company built around your name and stellar reputation.

87 Political Atheist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:26:21pm

re: #79 Slumbering Behemoth

All I did was order Chinese food delivered...

It's back now but for a few minutes nothing. 502 server error. Huh.

88 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:27:00pm

re: #81 Obdicut

What kind of pussy-ass militia is stopped by bad weather?

Glad to hear the informant wasn't an instigator but instead was told to make the bombs. That's helpful.

/no damit! I said make the bongs!

89 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:27:31pm

re: #87 Rightwingconspirator

All I did was order Chinese food delivered...

It's back now but for a few minutes nothing. 502 server error. Huh.

don't you have some place local?

90 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:28:03pm

re: #88 brookly red

I encourage the federal distribution of weed to militias to get them to fucking chill out a little.

91 windsagio  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:28:45pm

re: #90 Obdicut

I was thinking the same thing. Would solve the 'anti-government violence' problem outright if they traded in their meth for some nice, soothing herb.

92 Political Atheist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:28:51pm

re: #90 Obdicut

Weed for guns! Trade 'em in no questions asked...

93 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:28:53pm

re: #90 Obdicut


Agreed and the paranoia they experience would be barely noticable compared to the paranoia they experience without weed.

94 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:29:11pm

All this (Hamas immigration conspiracy theory) crap reminds me of the constant "If Clinton was impeached, why is he still the President. Tyranny!" garbage. No matter how many facts are sourced to debunk the bunk, some insist on clinging to the lie.

95 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:29:40pm

re: #90 Obdicut

I encourage the federal distribution of weed to militias to get them to fucking chill out a little.

I can get you a QP fro that AK?

96 Uninformed Opinion  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:29:56pm

re: #94 Slumbering Behemoth

All this (Hamas immigration conspiracy theory) crap reminds me of the constant "If Clinton was impeached, why is he still the President. Tyranny!" garbage. No matter how many facts are sourced to debunk the bunk, some insist on clinging to the lie.

you cant force reason on people. I know, i live near utah.

97 darthstar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:30:40pm

re: #90 Obdicut

I encourage the federal distribution of weed to militias to get them to fucking chill out a little.

That's it...I'm starting a militia.

98 windsagio  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:31:24pm

re: #97 darthstar

It might be a trap, since weed is still illegal >>

99 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:31:37pm

re: #97 darthstar

That's it...I'm starting a militia.

/well you are kinda revolting :)

100 Slightly Drooling Love Child of Beck  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:31:40pm

re: #82 Uninformed Opinion

They would grab their bootstraps if they could reach them...

Don't you know that bacon is addictive! It is not the fault of those proud and brave men and women who overcame the ravages of Socialism only to stand bravely against tyranny that they are so obese!

It is an addiction! It is not their fault! It's just like when Rush explained about his other addictions and that is why he and those like him deserve sympathy. It is not at all like those horrible dirty people who are addicted to things like crack! Those drugs are clearly a choice to follow into a web of sin!

This is an addiction that no one should ever mock!

101 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:31:41pm

re: #96 Uninformed Opinion

How does that saying go? "You can't reason a person out of a position that they didn't reason themselves into", or something like that. I'm sure I screwed it up.

102 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:31:50pm

re: #97 darthstar

That's it...I'm starting a militia.

We don't have to wear green do we?

103 Slightly Drooling Love Child of Beck  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:31:52pm

re: #85 pingjockey

Well played!

Thank you!

104 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:32:06pm

re: #75 webevintage

Oh, maybe they should be the first to rise up?
they seem to keep expecting someone else to do it for them.
Where's that old "pull yourself up by your bootstraps revolution startin' spirit" you hear so much about?

They're afraid of experiencing the sinking feeling you experience when you storm with your cutlass into the captain's cabin and shout, "We're taking this ship, you scum, and the lads are right behind me!" and he says, "What lads?" and that's when you feel the emptiness behind you that suggests that another mutiny has petered out before you even had a chance to get started...

(Loosely adapted from one of the Dark and Stormy anthologies.)

105 Uninformed Opinion  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:32:33pm

re: #100 Slightly Drooling Love Child of Beck

Don't you know that bacon is addictive! It is not the fault of those proud and brave men and women who overcame the ravages of Socialism only to stand bravely against tyranny that they are so obese!

It is an addiction! It is not their fault! It's just like when Rush explained about his other addictions and that is why he and those like him deserve sympathy. It is not at all like those horrible dirty people who are addicted to things like crack! Those drugs are clearly a choice to follow into a web of sin!

This is an addiction that no one should ever mock!

as a lifelong bacon addict, i have no regrets.

106 darthstar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:33:21pm

re: #102 HoosierHoops

We don't have to wear green do we?

We don't wear the green, we burn it!

107 Slightly Drooling Love Child of Beck  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:33:30pm

re: #105 Uninformed Opinion

as a lifelong bacon addict, i have no regrets.

Nor should you!

BTW, if you find me funny, that really is my whole goal.

108 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:33:33pm

re: #105 Uninformed Opinion

as a lifelong bacon addict, i have no regrets.

it's the sodium nitrate...

109 Uninformed Opinion  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:34:29pm

re: #101 Slumbering Behemoth

How does that saying go? "You can't reason a person out of a position that they didn't reason themselves into", or something like that. I'm sure I screwed it up.

you just get stuck in these loops... the best you can do is get some awkward silences where they dont know what catechism to spout.

110 Jadespring  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:38:55pm

Mmm...bacon

I ate way too much bacon this week. I don't know what it was but I had cravings that I couldn't resist!

111 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:41:05pm

re: #81 Obdicut

What kind of pussy-ass militia is stopped by bad weather?

Glad to hear the informant wasn't an instigator but instead was told to make the bombs. That's helpful.


The revolution got rained out!

112 darthstar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:41:13pm

re: #110 Jadespring

Mmm...bacon

I ate way too much bacon this week. I don't know what it was but I had cravings that I couldn't resist!

Me too...made a Bacon,egg & asparagus pizza Monday night, it was lovely.

113 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:42:08pm

re: #111 WindUpBird

The revolution got rained out!

they shoulda checked with the weathermen...

OK now I hate myself :)

114 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:42:34pm

re: #112 darthstar

Me too...made a Bacon,egg & asparagus pizza Monday night, it was lovely.

slowly, I turned...

115 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:42:37pm

re: #109 Uninformed Opinion

I keep getting the "Obama visited our enemies three times in the first three months of being elected" from a certain relative of mine.

SB: "What enemies"?
R: "The ones over in the middle east".
SB: "Who? What enemies, what country"?
R: [Frustrated] "I can't remember, but he did it, it's true".
SB: [Facepalm] "Sooo..., how 'bout this weather, huh"?

116 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:42:37pm

re: #113 brookly red

they shoulda checked with the weathermen...

OK now I hate myself :)

okay that was funny

117 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:43:07pm

re: #112 darthstar
I must admit, that is the damndest collection of stuff I ever heard of on a pizza. But to each their own.

118 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:43:33pm

re: #25 HoosierHoops

{{HH}}
Consider the source! Not worth a minute of your time!

119 Slightly Drooling Love Child of Beck  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:44:34pm

re: #113 brookly red

they shoulda checked with the weathermen...

OK now I hate myself :)

Ahh and there we have it - referencing the depraved ravings of sixties radicals! Are you going to write a Strawberry Statement now and reveal your true Alinskyness! I am on to you RINO!

120 darthstar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:44:44pm

re: #81 Obdicut

What kind of pussy-ass militia is stopped by bad weather?

Glad to hear the informant wasn't an instigator but instead was told to make the bombs. That's helpful.

Reminds me of some movie (can't remember the title) where someone infiltrates a domestic terror group and manages to re-route all of the people assigned to blow up buses onto the same bus. At the end of the film, one guy stands up and shouts his last words, and the rest of the people on the bus look up in horror and try to shout "NOOOO!" as they realize they're all carrying bombs. Big flash, bang, poop, and pfft.

121 darthstar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:45:35pm

re: #114 brookly red

slowly, I turned...

Bacon & Egg on whole wheat with a Bechamel sauce...it's simple and tasty.

122 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:47:06pm

re: #119 Slightly Drooling Love Child of Beck

Ahh and there we have it - referencing the depraved ravings of sixties radicals! Are you going to write a Strawberry Statement now and reveal your true Alinskyness! I am on to you RINO!

I am a registered Dem in NYC... because you are new here I will not place your soul in a rock, this time :)

123 darthstar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:47:10pm

re: #117 pingjockey

I must admit, that is the damndest collection of stuff I ever heard of on a pizza. But to each their own.

Well, the asparagus needed to get eaten, and it wasn't bad with the bacon & egg & bechamel.

I also make a pizza with carmelized onion and sliced duck breast and Gruyer...that one kicks ass.

124 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:47:55pm

re: #121 darthstar

Bacon & Egg on whole wheat with a Bechamel sauce...it's simple and tasty.

with what you smoke you would put captian crunch on a pizza...

125 martinsmithy  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:48:12pm

Interesting article from last September, but someone just sent it to me:

[Link: www.csmonitor.com...]

"Best Place in the world for Muslims to Live? The U.S."

126 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:48:55pm

re: #123 darthstar
The duck one sounds tasty, bacon and egg too. It was the asparagus that threw me.

127 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:50:19pm

re: #123 darthstar

Well, the asparagus needed to get eaten, and it wasn't bad with the bacon & egg & bechamel.

I also make a pizza with carmelized onion and sliced duck breast and Gruyer...that one kicks ass.

that is a crape you infidel...

128 darthstar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:51:25pm

re: #124 brookly red

with what you smoke you would put captian crunch on a pizza...

Truth be told, I don't really smoke anymore...maybe once in the last year. I still like it, but I just don't do it that often. That said, I do like Captain Crunch (the original...none of that Crunchberry crap).

129 Kragar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:51:44pm

OK, I'm officially fucking tired of the term "save the planet". The planet is going to keep going on whether we survive to see it or not. That being said:

'We can't save the planet'

Professor James Lovelock, the scientist who developed Gaia theory, has said it is too late to try and save the planet.

The man who achieved global fame for his theory that the whole earth is a single organism now believes that we can only hope that the earth will take care of itself in the face of completely unpredictable climate change.

Interviewed by Today presenter John Humphrys, videos of which you can see below, he said that while the earth's future was utterly uncertain, mankind was not aware it had "pulled the trigger" on global warming as it built its civilizations.

So rather than try and play economic shell games to try and force the environment into some aribitrary point in a system we have no fucking control over anyway, how about we focus on what is important, namely how to keep as many people alive and productive in a drastically changing world. Desalinization plants, water pipelines, more efficient irrigation systems, expanded power production and grids. The planet is going to take care of itself, one way or the other. Lets start taking care of ourselves in the mean time.

130 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:52:13pm

re: #125 martinsmithy

Interesting article from last September, but someone just sent it to me:

[Link: www.csmonitor.com...]

"Best Place in the world for Muslims to Live? The U.S."

"Best Place in the world for Muslimsfify to Live? The U.S."

fify

131 darthstar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:52:13pm

re: #127 brookly red

that is a crape you infidel...

Not when it's on home made pizza crust (though I do cheat sometimes and buy the pizza dough at Trader Joe's...it's pretty good).

132 RogueOne  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:52:20pm

re: #76 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Oh boy, expect a flood of purges coming out soon:

Prosecutor: Agent infiltrated Christian militia

I read that yesterday and to be honest it actually makes me skeptical of their case. I'm still waiting for the whole story but I'm concerned that 3 of the 5 charges are all wrapped around the original charge of sedition. Plus I'm still wondering how they went from preparing for the anti-christ to deciding to kill Michigan cops in such a short time frame. I'm not saying this is all bogus but I'm holding on to that 48-hr rule for a bit longer.

133 Slightly Drooling Love Child of Beck  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:52:35pm

re: #81 Obdicut

What kind of pussy-ass militia is stopped by bad weather?

Glad to hear the informant wasn't an instigator but instead was told to make the bombs. That's helpful.

This sir, is a militia of the people. No Sir, they are not well trained soldiers, but rather average Americans like you and me. They are not marines! They do what they can when they can.

They try to be marines even though they come from the humblest of trailer park origins. They have the marine spirit even if their bodies are riddled with the effects of fetal alcohol syndrome and their waists are thick!

sniff.

This is the very essence of America, believing you are a marine anyway, even if you would die within two days of reaching Paris Island.

It is the essence of America to look at the super tough Marine and know in your heart that you are just as bad ass as he is!

It is the essence of America to look at that IVY LEAGUE brainiac and know that you don't need to be as smart or educated as he is to know what's right about science or history or any of that boring academic stuff that only nerds like.

This makes me proud for the fighting spirit of Americans everywhere!

We are a nation who believes that if we believe hard enough it is true!

openly crying

This is what it means to be an American!

I love this nation and the power of her people to believe they not only can be anything, but that they actually are anything they want to be!

134 Slightly Drooling Love Child of Beck  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:53:02pm

re: #122 brookly red

I am a registered Dem in NYC... because you are new here I will not place your soul in a rock, this time :)

I knew you were a witch!

135 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:53:31pm

re: #134 Slightly Drooling Love Child of Beck

I knew you were a witch!

don't quit your day job...

136 darthstar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:54:53pm

re: #132 RogueOne

I read that yesterday and to be honest it actually makes me skeptical of their case. I'm still waiting for the whole story but I'm concerned that 3 of the 5 charges are all wrapped around the original charge of sedition. Plus I'm still wondering how they went from preparing for the anti-christ to deciding to kill Michigan cops in such a short time frame. I'm not saying this is all bogus but I'm holding on to that 48-hr rule for a bit longer.

I'm holding my breath on this one as well. But I do agree that the militias are probably looking at their membership and wondering who they can trust. "If you didn't sleep with my sister and you're not related by blood, you'd better have a good story, buddy."

137 Slightly Drooling Love Child of Beck  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:55:29pm

re: #135 brookly red

don't quit your day job...

Ouch.. man comedy is hard.. I think my rant above was insightful in #133. And if you don't agree, then FU it was still a brilliant riff!

138 RogueOne  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:56:15pm

re: #136 darthstar

"If you didn't sleep with my sister and you're not related by blood, you'd better have a good story, buddy."

and they were headed to kentucky, so that's probably a pretty accurate statement.

139 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:56:33pm

OK, it's time to walk the mastiffs... re: #137 Slightly Drooling Love Child of Beck

Ouch.. man comedy is hard.. I think my rant above was insightful in #133. And if you don't agree, then FU it was still a brilliant riff!

yes a legend in your own mind... :)

140 Slightly Drooling Love Child of Beck  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:57:20pm

re: #139 brookly red

OK, it's time to walk the mastiffs...

yes a legend in your own mind... :)

Double ouch.. Damn it, I will make you laugh at least once!

141 RogueOne  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:57:28pm

I have to go take care of my sick spouse. If I'm not back later, everyone have a good night.

142 Slightly Drooling Love Child of Beck  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:58:24pm

re: #141 RogueOne

I have to go take care of my sick spouse. If I'm not back later, everyone have a good night.

If a black SUV pulls up at your door, tell the agents she got better!

seriously, I wish her the best and hope she has a speedy recovery.

143 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 3:58:32pm

re: #140 Slightly Drooling Love Child of Beck

Double ouch.. Damn it, I will make you laugh at least once!

oh i am laughing, trust me i am laughing... now on to the weapons grade dog pooh...

144 Jadespring  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:00:32pm

Well it's been a bad news, good news day for me today.

Bad news is that after a morning and rather expensive vet visit my dog isn't pregnant. The breeding failed. :(

Good news is that it's looking like I'm going back to school of sorts and I get to go with my other dog! Looks like we're going to start SAR training. I'm pretty excited about it. :)

145 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:00:43pm

Later folks

146 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:04:25pm

I think I may have discovered why the Teahadis are so bat-shit insane. They be drinking some bad ju-ju.

147 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:06:32pm

re: #132 RogueOne

Given the whole "Obama is going to turn our sovereignty over to the U.N. and or the North American Union" and other such crap that has gone around it's not hard for the militia types to make the leap of local cops = current power structure = state = federal = Obama.

And it's even less surprising that they were a christian militia. Just look at the Left behind series of books combined with the video game (hint the "good guys" are fighting the anti-christ whose army just happens to resemble the U.N) and it's not a stretch.

148 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:06:55pm

re: #25 HoosierHoops

Hoops, here is part of Rose's latest tirade about me, Cato, the Maggot-Infested:

I did what I did because I thought it was the right thing to do, Cato. I did it out of kindness, and I never asked for anything or expected anything in return. [Except for your personal naysayers to be banned, as Charles has noted.]

I put my own neck on the line for Charles because I have a strong sense of justice and I despise the fould [sic] deeds of evil men. [...] I’m not one of them. [NB: At one point Rose accused Albusteve of being "evil" for not joining in her futile efforts to silence the stalkers by baiting them.]

I had it within my power to stand up in his defense, and I did. I used my own blog to do so, and did it on my own dime and my own time. [No you didn't, you ran a free blog. What you do with your own time is your affair.]

I don’t regret it, and given the same circumstances I’d do it all over again. Not because I’m looking for attention or some kind of special treatment, but because (at least in my mind) defending the innocent is the right thing to do. [The queen of the attention whores can't stop telling the world about her extraordinary kindness. (Funny, though, isn't it, how Charles stopped being defense-worthy and became an asshole instead once he gave her what she wanted, which, according to her, was no special treatment at all.)]

Believe it or not Cato, there really are good people still left in the world… decent people who do things for no other reason than simple kindness. A concept that you obviously know nothing about.

There follows a lot of personal abuse about how I'm going to Hell. Interested parties can read all about it on Yooper's site.

What strikes me most about Rose and her rants is the total lack of introspection or insight into her own motives. Hers is the kind of kindness I would pay hard cash to be spared. Honestly, if I were dying in the gutter, I'd give her my last change to go inflict herself on someone else. Because, if she decided to give me a five-spot, she'd first line up all her friends on the other side of the street to take her picture for "Charity News".

There's a term for the thing she suffers from: Self-Righteous Indignation.

As a final comment, may I just say that I called her on her bullshit act well before others saw it. I was roundly denounced for criticizing an LGF supporter. But I saw at the time and see even more clearly now that what she was supporting was her own little legend.

At the end of it all she promises not to talk to me anymore. (Whew!)

My last retort on Yooper's blog (unpublished, of course):

Irish Rose can’t get more than nine comments on her dying blog anymore, not even when she posts yet another sad whinge about LGF, not even when she writes four of them herself.

So she comes over here to the last dying thread on this moribund blog to have a last, good cry at the ingratitude and cruelty of this scurvy world.

Pathetic doesn’t begin to cover it.

Rose, your brave attempt to “protect” Charles did more harm than good, from the beginning. You managed nothing more than to stir the shit even further and give the people you were denouncing exactly what they craved: attention. Which is exactly what you craved in return. I told you this early on in the saga, but you wouldn’t listen. Talk about people who need a long, hard look in the mirror!

I do wonder if you’ll be able to keep to your stated intention and discontinue communication with me. Somehow I doubt it. You blocked me from your whinnying whine-fest of a blog, yet can’t resist taking me on here.

Good day, madam!

149 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:08:29pm
150 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:09:24pm

I am now officially an employee of King Sooper's, a division of Kroger Inc. Do you want paper of plastic?

I will be reporting in on the crazy day to day happenings in a major supermarket.

I did a LOT of on line training today. Do you know it is probably harder to sell cigarettes to a customer than it would be to sell them 20 grams of crack.

More to come...

151 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:10:42pm

re: #147 Dreggas

Given the whole "Obama is going to turn our sovereignty over to the U.N. and or the North American Union"...

New verse, but the song remains the same. That was the same damn tune sung about the Clinton admin. Recycling this stuff never gets old for the paranoid, delusional conspiracy mongers, but it got old fast for me in the '90s. My CDS was short lived.

152 windsagio  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:11:05pm

re: #150 Walter L. Newton

I reallly admire your desire to work no matter what, especially when as far as I can tell, you don't really NEED to.

~no snark or anything involved, its really cool.

153 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:11:49pm

re: #150 Walter L. Newton

I am now officially an employee of King Sooper's, a division of Kroger Inc. Do you want paper of plastic?

I will be reporting in on the crazy day to day happenings in a major supermarket.

I did a LOT of on line training today. Do you know it is probably harder to sell cigarettes to a customer than it would be to sell them 20 grams of crack.

More to come...

I noticed that when I was trying to by tobacco products in Colorado. Except for when I went to that little country store you took me to visit, I always felt like Mister Contraband.

154 Slightly Drooling Love Child of Beck  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:12:07pm

re: #148 Cato the Elder

But aren't you already going to hell anyway for being a liberal?!? Wake up and repent!

155 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:16:25pm

re: #151 Slumbering Behemoth


I was going to mention that. I grew up in a small town filled with the same black helicopter paranoia. There were no militias to speak of but we had our share of those who muttered about big brother (all while collecting disability checks or welfare).

156 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:18:36pm

re: #11 ckb

Unlike many of the other marvel titles from this period, ASM is in high enough demand that CGC graded book in the VF 8.0 area are worth grading, with prices in the $250-$300 range. Your copy looks like it could be better than that.

Anyone lucky enough to have NM 9.4 or better copies of ASM under issue 50 have thousand dollar books each. The 9.4 grade is very unforgiving though, as you may expect, given those prices.

Good luck!

What are your plans for them? Have you figured out how you are going to sell them? Slabbed books are similar to commodities, since they have been independently assessed for condition by experts, it takes a lot of the guesswork out of buying. A number of sites have sprung up that act as middlemen in the transaction for a 10% (or so) fee. ComicLink and ComicConnect come to mind. eBay is a viable venue for slabbed books as well.

We're going to get some of the rarer ones graded and see what we have, then decide the best way to sell them. There are close to a thousand comic books in the whole collection, with lots of Marvel books in excellent shape.

157 darthstar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:20:29pm

re: #156 Charles

Hey...just reported my #149 to you...didn't think before clicking post, but I figure posting about Palin's kids probably doesn't do you or the site any favors...feel free to delete.

158 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:21:57pm

re: #150 Walter L. Newton

Right on Walter!!
Glad you'll be working !

159 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:22:06pm

YouTube's Craziest Baby Preachers

Adorable and creepy at the same time.

160 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:22:19pm

re: #157 darthstar

It's also very unverified at the moment, not a lot more than just pure rumor.

161 darthstar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:22:53pm

re: #160 Obdicut

It's also very unverified at the moment, not a lot more than just pure rumor.

Yep...good point. I'll wait for the Fox coverage.

162 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:23:21pm

re: #113 brookly red

they shoulda checked with the weathermen...

OK now I hate myself :)

Don't need a Weatherman to tell which way the wind blows...

163 Uninformed Opinion  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:25:02pm

re: #161 darthstar

Yep...good point. I'll wait for the Fox coverage.

One hell of a story though.

164 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:25:34pm

re: #152 windsagio

I reallly admire your desire to work no matter what, especially when as far as I can tell, you don't really NEED to.

~no snark or anything involved, its really cool.

Thanks for the compliment. But, there is one part of your comment that I don't understand. I do have a small personal stack of monthly bills (car insurance, second mortgage, paying of some dental work) and I pay all the utilities here at my girlfriends house. That's close to 500 a month in gas, electricity, communications (phone, satellite, internet) and waste disposal. All in all, I have about 700 dollars a month in bills alone, and that doesn't include out of pocket expenses for medications and transportation costs (gas, vehicle maintenance).

And the last thing I would ever do is just live totally off of someone else's efforts. There is no way I would live up here with my girlfriend if I was not able to contribute.

So, I'm not sure where you ever got the impression that I don't need to work.

165 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:26:48pm

re: #158 reloadingisnotahobby

Right on Walter!!
Glad you'll be working !

Thanks... I be reporting in on some of the things I am learning as the weeks go on, of course, my comments will be from my typical warped sense of humor.

166 darthstar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:27:15pm

re: #163 Uninformed Opinion

One hell of a story though.

I suppose it is fair to point out that Sarah Palin is now a celebrity (like Michael Jackson or Paris Hilton) and no longer a political figure, but the kid's still only 15...so I still fucked up.

167 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:30:14pm

re: #165 Walter L. Newton

If working with the public changes your sense of humor ....It's usually for
the more warped!!
LOL
I spent last night with the stomach flu...stayed home today.
IT WAS THE LONGEST DAY EVER!!!
Can't wait to go to work in the morning

168 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:30:28pm

re: #165 Walter L. Newton

What is your position (job title?) there?

169 albusteve  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:31:55pm

Walter went straight past bag boy to cashier in training...I'm very proud of my amigo

170 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:32:20pm

re: #168 Slumbering Behemoth

What is your position (job title?) there?

I'll be a cashier... after the training...

171 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:33:35pm

Going to have a Vesper. See you all in Hell!

172 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:34:54pm

re: #170 Walter L. Newton

Excellent! Wouldn't want you pushing carts out in that Colorado weather. Is the pay good? Union? Benefits?

I'm happy for you, dude. Now we just need to get D_F something.

173 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:35:31pm

re: #148 Cato the Elder

Hoops, here is part of Rose's latest tirade about me, Cato, the Maggot-Infested:

OK, I am succumbing to bad curiousity. How do I locate Yoopers place of blognation?

174 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:38:01pm

re: #173 SanFranciscoZionist

If you google the name & the word blog......

175 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:39:05pm

re: #174 Floral Giraffe

If you google the name & the word blog...

CANCEL THAT! It's from 2008. Sorry!

176 albusteve  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:39:34pm

re: #171 Cato the Elder

Going to have a Vesper. See you all in Hell!

one of those high end blow up dolls....very nice investment with your tax return

177 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:40:02pm

re: #166 darthstar

re: #170 Walter L. Newton

The Fed is building a huge I.T. Facility at Hill A.B or Camp
Williams here is Utah....(not sure which).
But you'd have to move?

178 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:42:01pm

re: #172 Slumbering Behemoth

Excellent! Wouldn't want you pushing carts out in that Colorado weather. Is the pay good? Union? Benefits?

I'm happy for you, dude. Now we just need to get D_F something.

Two dollars over minimum. Only part time, 20 hours a week guaranteed, but additional hours are almost always available, full benefits just like the full time positions after 12 months, it's not a union shop (has something to do with location of store to the rest of the union stores with in Denver country), but they follow most of the union rules.

Best of all, it's only 3 miles from my house, right up here in the mountains. The pay will take care of what I need right now, and I still will have time to do the off and on programming work that I occasionally do from home.

Yes... DF next.

179 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:42:09pm

OK, now I'm sick. Over at the stalker blog, Speranza writes:

Seriously though, I could not fault the Russkies if they now decided to treate Chechen women as enemy combatants to be dealt summarily with if caught. You think that the FSB (the successor to the KGB) will be doing any profiling? Yes Islamic terrorists (now there is a redundancy) need to be treated like rats.

180 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:42:33pm

re: #175 Floral Giraffe

CANCEL THAT! It's from 2008. Sorry!

No problem. I probably don't need to see.

181 darthstar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:43:50pm

Thanks, Charles.

Okay, now that I know my fuckup is gone, I can hit the road.

Play nice everyone.

182 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:44:15pm

re: #178 Walter L. Newton

Good news indeed, Walter. Sounds like you've got something that is going to work out great for you. Cheers.

183 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:45:20pm

re: #178 Walter L. Newton

...and only three miles away?
The drive you made into Boulder was a dicey one during
winter!

184 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:46:03pm

re: #179 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, now I'm sick. Over at the stalker blog, Speranza writes:

Seriously though, I could not fault the Russkies if they now decided to treate Chechen women as enemy combatants to be dealt summarily with if caught. You think that the FSB (the successor to the KGB) will be doing any profiling? Yes Islamic terrorists (now there is a redundancy) need to be treated like rats.

Speranza is a particularly nasty piece of work.

185 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:46:15pm

re: #179 SanFranciscoZionist

I wonder what they'd have to say about domestic, Christian terrorists.

186 Slightly Drooling Love Child of Beck  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:46:37pm

re: #179 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, now I'm sick. Over at the stalker blog, Speranza writes:

Seriously though, I could not fault the Russkies if they now decided to treate Chechen women as enemy combatants to be dealt summarily with if caught. You think that the FSB (the successor to the KGB) will be doing any profiling? Yes Islamic terrorists (now there is a redundancy) need to be treated like rats.

You know even Dad couldn't make that look good.

187 SpaceJesus  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:47:34pm

president obama gets to meet captain america

[Link: worldfamousdesignjunkies.com...]

188 Slightly Drooling Love Child of Beck  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:47:58pm

re: #185 Slumbering Behemoth

I wonder what they'd have to say about domestic, Christian terrorists.

What you mean patriotic freedom fighters against the new world order....

Really guys, you are giving me nothing to work with at all.

189 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:49:22pm

re: #183 reloadingisnotahobby

...and only three miles away?
The drive you made into Boulder was a dicey one during
winter!

ahh, reloading type, I have been meaning to ask you...

you see I have a seeming-less endless supply of mastiff poop, and I figure there should be some way to make a buck from it. I was thinking a 12 gauge non-lethal crowd control round? could it work?

190 albusteve  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:51:08pm

re: #189 brookly red

ahh, reloading type, I have been meaning to ask you...

you see I have a seeming-less endless supply of mastiff poop, and I figure there should be some way to make a buck from it. I was thinking a 12 gauge non-lethal crowd control round? could it work?

maybe it could be bleached and made into noodles

191 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:51:43pm

re: #189 brookly red

Why SURE!!
But,You'd have to load them yourself!!
..Oh,you were asking me to load them?
.....I'm CLOSED!!

192 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:52:03pm

re: #189 brookly red

ahh, reloading type, I have been meaning to ask you...

you see I have a seeming-less endless supply of mastiff poop, and I figure there should be some way to make a buck from it. I was thinking a 12 gauge non-lethal crowd control round? could it work?

Oh Shit! I've been shot!

193 Uninformed Opinion  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:52:08pm

re: #185 Slumbering Behemoth

I wonder what they'd have to say about domestic, Christian terrorists.

A few Bad Apples is what i get.

194 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:52:23pm

re: #191 reloadingisnotahobby

Why SURE!!
But,You'd have to load them yourself!!
..Oh,you were asking me to load them?
...I'm CLOSED!!

just asking if it would work...

195 SpaceJesus  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:52:49pm

re: #179 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, now I'm sick. Over at the stalker blog, Speranza writes:

Seriously though, I could not fault the Russkies if they now decided to treate Chechen women as enemy combatants to be dealt summarily with if caught. You think that the FSB (the successor to the KGB) will be doing any profiling? Yes Islamic terrorists (now there is a redundancy) need to be treated like rats.

*hates all muslims because "muslims treat women poorly"*

*advocates declaring war on all chechen women*

*wants to tell women how to control their own bodies*

*is rodan, speranza, buzzsawmonkey*

196 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:53:14pm

re: #189 brookly red

A friend raises / breeds Mastiffs..
I met Lars...205 lb of cuddly fun!

197 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:53:24pm

re: #192 HoosierHoops

Oh Shit! I've been shot!

more like I'm hit! ohgawd I'm hi...ewww! ewww! ewww!

198 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:53:56pm

re: #190 albusteve

maybe it could be bleached and made into noodles

not organic...

199 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:54:40pm

re: #185 Slumbering Behemoth

They're just misunderstood. Really they're patriotic americans worried and angry about the policies of the obama admin

200 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:55:56pm

Hey All!

I want to bring to people's attention something very serious.

This is an article from physics today. It contains an interview that should be seen.

Frozen Arctic methane shows signs outgassing

[Link: blogs.physicstoday.org...]

Here is the main paper from Science.

[Link: www.sciencemag.org...]

No PDF is available without subscription as yet.

To break this down, we have new evidence of a massive methane source that had previously been considered to be sequestered, is actually being released.

We are seeing it now.

To recap the science, CO2 warms things up to emit methane. Methane is a vastly worse GHG than CO2.

This sort of thing throws all predictions into the reality is much worse category.

It is not possible to overstate how bad this potentially is.

201 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:56:29pm

Hot Air is promoting an old and previously debunked conspiracy theory....

Analysis: Democratic districts getting much more stimulus money than Republican ones

Of course this influx of money to urban areas throws the readers into fits of racism.....

Of course they are, that’s where the leeches are.

Sporty1946 on March 31, 2010 at 7:30 PM


....

Heh. Who cares.

Good luck getting cousin pookie off da couch.

Over-reach: “When a half white/half black Man tries to put black face on one side and white face on the other, he gets half assed. And that my friends, is what we have.

Key West Reader on March 31, 2010 at 7:32 PM


....

When will the MSM claim the White half of BHO? Where is the White half? The White half is the failing half!

Cue: MSNBC and Cwhishcy Maffews talking points.

Obama’s failure is because.. he is white half.

Ya heard it here first, on the number one blog in America!
Take it away, Schiscy Maffews!

Key West Reader on March 31, 2010 at 7:36 PM

I think it will go the other way. All those racists who have been seething since 2008 that a black man got ahead took revenge and “unfairly” brought an uppity brother down.

highhopes on March 31, 2010 at 7:38 PM


...

!!!!!!!!!! Stealth Reparations !!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on March 31, 2010 at 7:41 PM


...

So now, here we are, stuck with the hope and the change and the taxes and the bullsh*t and the racism and the protests and the unemployment and the disenfranchisement and the poverty and the food stamps and the violence and the gang members and the robbing and the raping and the rising food prices and gas prices and the illegal immigrants, and the…

Where’s that Hope n Change? I need me some Hope n Change.

What a disaster.

Key West Reader on March 31, 2010 at 7:44 PM

202 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:57:39pm

re: #195 SpaceJesus

*hates all muslims because "muslims treat women poorly"*

*advocates declaring war on all chechen women*

*wants to tell women how to control their own bodies*

*is rodan, speranza, buzzsawmonkey*

They are purely evil, ignorant, genocidal fools, with delusions of grandeur. They are pathetic screen berets who believe venting their vile anger at the world through the interwebs is a substitute for manhood.

203 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:57:44pm

re: #179 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, now I'm sick. Over at the stalker blog, Speranza writes:

Seriously though, I could not fault the Russkies if they now decided to treate Chechen women as enemy combatants to be dealt summarily with if caught. You think that the FSB (the successor to the KGB) will be doing any profiling? Yes Islamic terrorists (now there is a redundancy) need to be treated like rats.

The Russians would be right to treat Chechen women with caution in view of the "Black Widow" threat. But to treat the all as enemy combatants would be wrong and murderous. That said, the Russian Army is sometimes murderous, and may engage in revenge killings.

204 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:57:52pm

re: #201 Killgore Trout

Not a single objection from other readers or the blog management.

205 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 4:58:34pm

re: #202 LudwigVanQuixote

They are purely evil, ignorant, genocidal fools, with delusions of grandeur. They are pathetic screen berets who believe venting their vile anger at the world through the interwebs is a substitute for manhood.

Ya wanna talk about bad methane sources?!

206 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:00:02pm

OK, mastiff poop...

noodles? out (but tempted)
ammo? not so much
fuel? could it be fuel... could I at least get a grant to study it? Hmmmm

207 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:00:18pm

Got Vietnamese character sets on your computer? Update your virus protections. Vietnamese dissidents targeted by botnet attacks.

208 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:00:20pm

re: #205 marjoriemoon

Ya wanna talk about bad methane sources?!

You've met the dog...?

209 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:00:42pm

re: #200 LudwigVanQuixote

Hi Ludwig!
I saw something about that on the Science channel a few years ago..

210 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:01:12pm

re: #203 Dark_Falcon

The Russians would be right to treat Chechen women with caution in view of the "Black Widow" threat. But to treat the all as enemy combatants would be wrong and murderous. That said, the Russian Army is sometimes murderous, and may engage in revenge killings.

they don't do unicorns or smiley faces too good...

211 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:01:54pm

re: #206 brookly red

I've got a source named Buddy....We could split the Nobel..
Deal??

212 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:03:07pm

re: #205 marjoriemoon

Ya wanna talk about bad methane sources?!

Yes but in the grand scheme of things those are merely lowlife cretins.

They have little potential to harm people on the scale of what I am talking about.

I am very sorry to sound so alarmed, but I just got done analyzing a paper that proved to me that things I thought were absolute worst case scenarios are now becoming the most likely ones.

Most models - even in worst case do not take a methane release into account. If it is included, everything gets vastly worse. Since we really do not know how to model this well yet, it is nearly impossible to say precisely how bad it will be and in what time frame. It could move worst case scenarios up by as much as 50 years. It could just make certain that there is only a 2 meter rise by 2100. There is no way now however, that minimal nice projections that everyone counts on are possible.

213 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:03:47pm

re: #209 HoosierHoops

Yeah wasn't that the one where the methane vapor was released and travelled as a cloud over a city and all it took was a spark to vaporize said city? Methane is bad ju-ju.

214 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:03:53pm

re: #211 reloadingisnotahobby

I've got a source named Buddy...We could split the Nobel..
Deal??

dude you can have 60% just help me out with this dog shit inventory...

215 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:05:00pm

re: #209 HoosierHoops

Hi Ludwig!
I saw something about that on the Science channel a few years ago..

Not this. Methane itself has been known to be a problem for some time. What makes this so terrible is that it is a new source that had been assumed to not be a major contributor. Climatologists had reason to believe that this source would stay trapped.

They were wrong.

This is a colossal case of thing suddenly got very much worse.

216 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:05:21pm

re: #202 LudwigVanQuixote

They are purely evil, ignorant, genocidal fools, with delusions of grandeur. They are pathetic screen berets who believe venting their vile anger at the world through the interwebs is a substitute for manhood.

This post is worse than what Speranza wrote. It was posted by Princess Natasha:

Miss Trixie wrote:

Afternoon, folks!
Well, well, well! Another bloodthirsty, muslim chechyen “leader” just wanting to “eliminate infidels” as per this video.
Russian I don’t speak, but doesn’t Princess Natasha? I’d love to hear what she has to say.
I would love to see Russia completely and mercilessly crush these ****ers along with this poisonous ideology. It’s time.

I speak Russian. However, right now I am too angry to see any of these dirt-scratching, degenerate terrorist swine or to hear them grunt in their subhuman voices. Call me racist, call me nationalist, call me whatever you want, but I hate these mutants. I would love to see Mother Russia annihilate them like an exterminator annihilates a nest of cockroaches. I also wish that, like in WWII, Russia and USA become allies in defeating this plague.

217 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:05:29pm

re: #214 brookly red

As we type the dog is at my side looking out the window and farting!

218 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:05:40pm

re: #213 Dreggas

Yeah wasn't that the one where the methane vapor was released and travelled as a cloud over a city and all it took was a spark to vaporize said city? Methane is bad ju-ju.

well if someone wants to open LNG storage facility in your backyard I would advise opposing it.

219 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:06:21pm

re: #200 LudwigVanQuixote

Hey All!

I want to bring to people's attention something very serious.

This is an article from physics today. It contains an interview that should be seen.

Frozen Arctic methane shows signs outgassing

[Link: blogs.physicstoday.org...]

Here is the main paper from Science.

[Link: www.sciencemag.org...]

No PDF is available without subscription as yet.

To break this down, we have new evidence of a massive methane source that had previously been considered to be sequestered, is actually being released.

We are seeing it now.

To recap the science, CO2 warms things up to emit methane. Methane is a vastly worse GHG than CO2.

This sort of thing throws all predictions into the reality is much worse category.

It is not possible to overstate how bad this potentially is.

Is this different from the stories I've been seeing about methane percolating up out of the thawing permafrost? The ones with the scientist lighting a flame from the methane emanating from a frost hole? Not questioning the science, just curious.

220 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:06:44pm

re: #216 Dark_Falcon

DF - that's what "Natasha" wrote, correct? Not your thoughts?

221 EastSider  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:07:30pm

Spiderman 3 the movie was awful.

222 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:08:23pm

re: #220 reine.de.tout

DF - that's what "Natasha" wrote, correct? Not your thoughts?

Correct. I put the post she was responding to in BlockQuotes, and then had her post in normal font.

223 Gus  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:08:51pm

re: #179 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, now I'm sick. Over at the stalker blog, Speranza writes:

Seriously though, I could not fault the Russkies if they now decided to treate Chechen women as enemy combatants to be dealt summarily with if caught. You think that the FSB (the successor to the KGB) will be doing any profiling? Yes Islamic terrorists (now there is a redundancy) need to be treated like rats.

Real men of genius.

The Russian FSB probably keeps track of everyone from Chechnya. As for his comic book fantasy of profiling Chechen women from physical or external attributes, good luck with that. The comic book fantasy of course being that Chechen women will come into Moscow wearing a burqa and traditional dress.

224 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:09:11pm

YouTube is slammed at the moment. No doubt due to these news stories, that their new interface is now out of beta.

225 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:09:36pm

re: #216 Dark_Falcon

I speak Russian. However, right now I am too angry to see any of these dirt-scratching, degenerate terrorist swine or to hear them grunt in their subhuman voices. Call me racist, call me nationalist, call me whatever you want, but I hate these mutants. I would love to see Mother Russia annihilate them like an exterminator annihilates a nest of cockroaches. I also wish that, like in WWII, Russia and USA become allies in defeating this plague.

be careful what you ask for... it could happen.

226 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:10:46pm

re: #218 brookly red

No Kidding.

But I do remember a show about methane being released from beneath the ocean and the problems it could cause. They were using a row boat down off bermuda somewhere to show where the gas was coming up out of the ocean as bubbles and basically it was a large area where this was occurring.

I think part of it had something to do with theories behind the bermuda triangle but they were talking about how a "belch" of natural gas/methane from the ocean could, in some cases, cause vessels to sink. It was a long time ago but they were showing that if a large enough amount was released and concentrated in a cloud form one spark could be really, really bad and they mentioned how it had happened or may have happened in the past.

227 EastSider  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:11:07pm

re: #216 Dark_Falcon

I speak Russian. However, right now I am too angry to see any of these dirt-scratching, degenerate terrorist swine or to hear them grunt in their subhuman voices. Call me racist, call me nationalist, call me whatever you want, but I hate these mutants. I would love to see Mother Russia annihilate them like an exterminator annihilates a nest of cockroaches. I also wish that, like in WWII, Russia and USA become allies in defeating this plague.

Can we get China on board too? I feel like China would be good at fighting terrorists.

228 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:11:27pm

re: #223 Gus 802

Real men of genius.

The Russian FSB probably keeps track of everyone from Chechnya. As for his comic book fantasy of profiling Chechen women from physical or external attributes, good luck with that. The comic book fantasy of course being that Chechen women will come into Moscow wearing a burqa and traditional dress.

well the traditional method is no Chechen's, no problem... I hope it does not come to that but it may.

229 Gus  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:11:49pm

re: #201 Killgore Trout

Hot Air is promoting an old and previously debunked conspiracy theory...

Hot Air Stormfront

230 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:13:05pm

re: #216 Dark_Falcon

Got a formatting problem there, brother. It makes it look like that last bit is in your own words, which obviously are not yours.

231 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:13:33pm

re: #219 The Sanity Inspector

Is this different from the stories I've been seeing about methane percolating up out of the thawing permafrost? The ones with the scientist lighting a flame from the methane emanating from a frost hole? Not questioning the science, just curious.

Yes this is different.

The Siberian and Canadian bogs release methane from a different mechanism.

There is a huge amount of organic material buried under the permafrost in Siberia and Canada. As that warms up, anaerobic bacteria begin to eat the material (plant matter mostly) and that releases methane. It is exactly the same reason you don't store a large amount of cut grass in a large closed container.

Those effects, are in of themselves, sufficient to potentially push us into a worst case regime.

This is something else.

This is that huge mounts of methane that had been dissolved and frozen in the northern oceans are now being released because even the deeper ocean layers are warming.

This is a giant feedback and another source.

Shakhova notes that Earth's geological record indicates that atmospheric methane concentrations have varied between about .3 to .4 parts per million during cold periods to .6 to .7 parts per million during warm periods. Current average methane concentrations in the Arctic average about 1.85 parts per million, the highest in 400,000 years, she said. Concentrations above the East Siberian Arctic Shelf are even higher.

The East Siberian Arctic Shelf is a relative frontier in methane studies. The shelf is shallow, 50 meters or less in depth, which means it has been alternately submerged or terrestrial, depending on sea levels throughout Earth's history. During Earth's coldest periods, it is a frozen arctic coastal plain, and does not release methane. As Earth warms and sea level rises, it is inundated with seawater, which is 12-15 degrees warmer than the average air temperature.

"It was thought that seawater kept the East Siberian Arctic Shelf permafrost frozen," Shakhova said. "Nobody considered this huge area."

"This study is a testament to sustained, careful observations and to international cooperation in research," said Henrietta Edmonds of the National Science Foundation, which partially funded the study. "The Arctic is a difficult place to get to and to work in, but it is important that we do so in order to understand its role in global climate and its response and contribution to ongoing environmental change. It is important to understand the size of the reservoir—the amount of trapped methane that potentially could be released—as well as the processes that have kept it "trapped" and those that control the release. Work like this helps us to understand and document these processes."

232 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:13:36pm

re: #225 brookly red

re: #227 EastSider

Let's be very clear: Those are "Princess Natasha" of the Stalker Blog's words, not mine. I do not, repeat, not agree with her. The animalization she uses is a prelude to massacre, and I will never support such a thing.

233 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:13:46pm

re: #219 The Sanity Inspector
It's those stories writ large. Think of those on a large scale.

234 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:14:28pm

re: #227 EastSider

Can we get China on board too? I feel like China would be good at fighting terrorists.

/What a great idea! the US, China, & Russia get together and split the world pie in 3 slices...

235 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:15:03pm

re: #234 brookly red

/What a great idea! the US, China, & Russia get together and split the world pie in 3 slices...

I think I read that one.

236 Gus  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:15:06pm

re: #228 brookly red

well the traditional method is no Chechen's, no problem... I hope it does not come to that but it may.

Common sense would tell me that independence for Chechnya would be even better. The idea of creating a banned people or a state within a state sound like something from the Dark Ages.

237 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:15:32pm

re: #235 SanFranciscoZionist

I think I read that one.

heard it many time myself...

238 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:15:52pm

re: #234 brookly red

The Russians would end up with ALL the oil...
We'd get the sand.....

239 Uninformed Opinion  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:17:01pm

re: #227 EastSider

Can we get China on board too? I feel like China would be good at fighting terrorists.

The Uighers are at in in xianjiang.

240 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:17:05pm

re: #212 LudwigVanQuixote

Yes but in the grand scheme of things those are merely lowlife cretins.

They have little potential to harm people on the scale of what I am talking about.

I am very sorry to sound so alarmed, but I just got done analyzing a paper that proved to me that things I thought were absolute worst case scenarios are now becoming the most likely ones.

Most models - even in worst case do not take a methane release into account. If it is included, everything gets vastly worse. Since we really do not know how to model this well yet, it is nearly impossible to say precisely how bad it will be and in what time frame. It could move worst case scenarios up by as much as 50 years. It could just make certain that there is only a 2 meter rise by 2100. There is no way now however, that minimal nice projections that everyone counts on are possible.

I appreciate your knowledge, Ludwig. I really do, but I must admit, my eyes tend to glaze over when you guys start talking about it. It's not that I'm not interested or don't believe you, I just don't follow it so closely.

I couldn't pass up a shot at the ex-lizards, though.

241 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:17:05pm

re: #232 Dark_Falcon

I could tell right away that wasn't you, or something you would say, but casual observers might not know you as well as most of us here.

242 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:17:30pm

re: #236 Gus 802

Common sense would tell me that independence for Chechnya would be even better. The idea of creating a banned people or a state within a state sound like something from the Dark Ages.

/well yes, so when Texas want's independence that good too?

243 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:18:22pm

re: #238 reloadingisnotahobby

The Russians would end up with ALL the oil...
We'd get the sand...

/well look who is doing our negotiating ...

244 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:19:33pm

re: #241 Slumbering Behemoth

I could tell right away that wasn't you, or something you would say, but casual observers might not know you as well as most of us here.

Good point. I've put in two disclaimers, but if Charles sees fit to delete the post, I have no objection. Again, I do not endorse massacre and never will.

245 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:21:53pm

and as the US, China & Russia scheme... India grabs the prize! :)

246 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:22:18pm

re: #244 Dark_Falcon

Just FYI, you can double quote. Like this. Just highlight it and "quote" twice.

Good point. I've put in two disclaimers, but if Charles sees fit to delete the post, I have no objection. Again, I do not endorse massacre and never will.
Good point. I've put in two disclaimers, but if Charles sees fit to delete the post, I have no objection. Again, I do not endorse massacre and never will.
247 Gus  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:22:50pm

re: #242 brookly red

/well yes, so when Texas want's independence that good too?

Russia has been oppressing the Chechens for decades now. The Chechens were staunch anti-communists and resisted Stalin during the reign of the Soviet Union. Nearly 70,000 Chechen civilians have been killed in the 2 Chechens wars.

248 Uninformed Opinion  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:22:57pm

re: #245 brookly red

and as the US, China & Russia scheme... India grabs the prize! :)

Well, provided they don't have a nuclear exchange with Pakistan...

249 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:23:42pm

re: #245 brookly red

and as the US, China & Russia scheme... India grabs the prize! :)

Musicals full of hip-shaking hotties?

250 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:24:10pm

re: #246 marjoriemoon

Just FYI, you can double quote. Like this. Just highlight it and "quote" twice.

Thanks. I'll do that in the future.

251 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:24:22pm

re: #247 Gus 802

Russia has been oppressing the Chechens for decades now. The Chechens were staunch anti-communists and resisted Stalin during the reign of the Soviet Union. Nearly 70,000 Chechen civilians have been killed in the 2 Chechens wars.

true. but the world does not care... to busy with Gaza.

252 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:24:29pm

re: #236 Gus 802

Common sense would tell me that independence for Chechnya would be even better. The idea of creating a banned people or a state within a state sound like something from the Dark Ages.

Here is the short form from my perspective:

1. It is impossible to separate nationalism from political Islam. Islam itself is not the enemy, but political Islam, which stirs the fires of nationalism to produce a theocratic fascism can only end in tragedy.

2. The Russians have a long and terrible history of atrocity against the Muslim Chechans. There can be no denial of this. The Chechans as a people and a nationality have every reason in the world to hate the Russians with an abiding and deep passion.

3. After being crushed by the Russians, the Chechans turned to political Islam.

4. Now we have two completely evil groups murdering innocent people on both sides for the same cycle of nationalistic violence.

5.The Chechans have adopted some of the most absolutely brutal methods of the Islamists. As Islamists go, Hamas dreams it could kill as many innocents as the Chechans have.

6. There is no real comparison to Israel, save as a counterpoint and as a contrasting case. Unlike Israel, the Russians will take horrible harsh and heavy handed measures that are certain to justify the Islamists. Unlike Israel, the western world will not utter a peep if Russia does respond with massive artillery barrages and carpet bombings. Unlike Russia, Israel actually has a legitimate claim to the disputed territory.

253 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:25:23pm

re: #240 marjoriemoon

I appreciate your knowledge, Ludwig. I really do, but I must admit, my eyes tend to glaze over when you guys start talking about it. It's not that I'm not interested or don't believe you, I just don't follow it so closely.

I couldn't pass up a shot at the ex-lizards, though.

Marjorie I adore you and I adore your posts. Please just this once don't glaze over. This scares me green.

254 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:25:25pm

re: #249 Slumbering Behemoth

Musicals full of hip-shaking hotties?

& PIE for all!

255 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:26:13pm

re: #222 Dark_Falcon

Correct. I put the post she was responding to in BlockQuotes, and then had her post in normal font.

Better make it clearer, DF. I think people are thinking that's your dialogue.

(Same thing happened to me w/ an Avanti post earlier.)

256 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:27:26pm

re: #255 Decatur Deb

Never mind--you caught it above.

257 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:27:45pm

re: #252 LudwigVanQuixote

Here is the short form from my perspective:

1. It is impossible to separate nationalism from political Islam. Islam itself is not the enemy, but political Islam, which stirs the fires of nationalism to produce a theocratic fascism can only end in tragedy.

2. The Russians have a long and terrible history of atrocity against the Muslim Chechans. There can be no denial of this. The Chechans as a people and a nationality have every reason in the world to hate the Russians with an abiding and deep passion.

3. After being crushed by the Russians, the Chechans turned to political Islam.

4. Now we have two completely evil groups murdering innocent people on both sides for the same cycle of nationalistic violence.

5.The Chechans have adopted some of the most absolutely brutal methods of the Islamists. As Islamists go, Hamas dreams it could kill as many innocents as the Chechans have.

6. There is no real comparison to Israel, save as a counterpoint and as a contrasting case. Unlike Israel, the Russians will take horrible harsh and heavy handed measures that are certain to justify the Islamists. Unlike Israel, the western world will not utter a peep if Russia does respond with massive artillery barrages and carpet bombings. Unlike Russia, Israel actually has a legitimate claim to the disputed territory.

Entirely agreed. As is often the case, Israel's own decency and generousity rebound to her worldly detriment. Still, I have faith that in the end God will see that the striving for justice by Israelis is rewarded, while the murderousness of many (though not all) Russians is punished.

258 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:28:11pm

re: #242 brookly red

/well yes, so when Texas want's independence that good too?

if Texas was constantly at war with the USA... ;-)

259 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:28:40pm

re: #254 brookly red

& PIE for all!

I'll take the curried lamb, you can have my share of the pie.

260 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:28:40pm

re: #257 Dark_Falcon

Entirely agreed. As is often the case, Israel's own decency and generousity rebound to her worldly detriment. Still, I have faith that in the end God will see that the striving for justice by Israelis is rewarded, while the murderousness of many (though not all) Russians is punished.

I also have faith that when G-d has had enough of all the bad things we do, He has a nasty tendency to take the righteous along with the wicked.

261 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:29:07pm

re: #258 WindUpBird

if Texas was constantly at war with the USA... ;-)

I hate the f'n cowboys...

262 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:30:24pm

re: #260 LudwigVanQuixote

I also have faith that when G-d has had enough of all the bad things we do, He has a nasty tendency to take the righteous along with the wicked.

I know that may happen, though I pray it does not happen.

263 Uninformed Opinion  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:30:48pm

re: #261 brookly red

I hate the f'n cowboys...

I will forever cherish ruining the debut of their new stadium.

264 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:31:21pm

Aw man. Coffee break is over, time to get back on my head. Catch you folks later.

265 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:31:33pm

re: #261 brookly red

I hate the f'n cowboys...

I like them. they give me someone else to root for if the Bears go down the tubes early.

266 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:32:04pm

re: #262 Dark_Falcon

I know that may happen, though I pray it does not happen.

As do we all.

267 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:34:00pm

re: #265 Dark_Falcon

I like them. they give me someone else to root for if the Bears go down the tubes early.

well that's OK. BUT as a dem I gotta say GB municipal ownership comrade.

268 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:34:41pm

re: #253 LudwigVanQuixote

Marjorie I adore you and I adore your posts. Please just this once don't glaze over. This scares me green.

hehe ((hugs))

What can I do? I'm a fairly green person and have been for years. If I think about the worst of it, I won't be able to get out of bed in the morning.

269 Gus  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:34:46pm

re: #252 LudwigVanQuixote

Good points Ludwig.

270 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:36:22pm

re: #269 Gus 802

Good points Ludwig.

Thanks!

271 Gus  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:40:42pm

re: #270 LudwigVanQuixote

Thanks!

You're welcome. Complicated situation.

Anyway, back later!

272 soap_man  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:42:57pm

Oh, the Onion. How I love thee:

U.S. Government To Save Billions By Cutting Wasteful Senator Program

In an effort to reduce wasteful spending and eliminate non-vital federal services, the U.S. government announced plans this week to cut its long-standing senator program, a move it says will help save more than $300 billion each year.

According to officials, the decision to cut the national legislative body was reached during a budget review meeting on Tuesday. After hours of deliberation, it was agreed that the cost of financing U.S. senators far outweighed the benefits they provided.

"Now more than ever, we must eliminate needless spending wherever possible," President Obama said at a press conference Wednesday. "When we sat down to go over our annual budget, we asked ourselves, where can we safely trim back? What programs can we do away with without negatively impacting the American people? Which bloated and ineffective institutions can we no longer justify having around?"

"The answer was obvious," Obama added. "The U.S. Senate just needed to go."

273 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:44:30pm

re: #270 LudwigVanQuixote

Thanks!

It seems Obama has delayed regulations on greenhouse gases until next year if I'm reading this right.

[Link: thehill.com...]

and this

[Link: www.biologicaldiversity.org...]

274 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:46:08pm

re: #272 soap_man

Oh, the Onion. How I love thee:

U.S. Government To Save Billions By Cutting Wasteful Senator Program

that may just be where are going.

275 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:46:10pm

re: #272 soap_man

I don't know if we could do without all of the senators, but the legislative history of the last year would be much the same if we only had 60 or so.

276 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:46:53pm

re: #275 Decatur Deb

I don't know if we could do without all of the senators, but the legislative history of the last year would be much the same if we only had 60 or so.

50... 1 for each state not 2.

277 soap_man  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:47:56pm

re: #275 Decatur Deb

I don't know if we could do without all of the senators, but the legislative history of the last year would be much the same if we only had 60 or so.

re: #276 brookly red

50... 1 for each state not 2.

From the story:

Moreover, the study found that the U.S. government already funds a fully operational legislative body that appears to do the exact same job as the Senate, but which also provides a fair and proportional representation of the nation's citizens and has rules in place to prevent one individual from holding the operations of the entire chamber hostage until he is guaranteed massive federal spending projects for his home state of Alabama.

278 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:48:58pm

re: #276 brookly red

50... 1 for each state not 2.

in fact why don't we just have the Governor also be the Senator? now that seems more representational to me...

279 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:49:48pm

re: #276 brookly red

50... 1 for each state not 2.

Why should government rely on middlemen in the era of blog polls?

280 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:51:13pm

re: #268 marjoriemoon

hehe ((hugs))

What can I do? I'm a fairly green person and have been for years. If I think about the worst of it, I won't be able to get out of bed in the morning.

OK here is a list of what you can do about it.

1. Get seriously educated about the facts. Look into the legitimate sources on the matter and learn the material. If you believe the science you will conclude that lives depend on getting this right.

2. After you freak out about just how bad this really is take a deep breath and then resolve to take real action.

3. Spread what you have learned. Say it at a coffee break when there is a chance to. Point out the flaws in the denier arguments. Present the facts. The more people who get this, the more chance of doing something. In reality, this is our only real hope to overcome the political and vested interest driven inertia (from both sides) on the issue. I said both sides pointedly. If you think I drop the boom on right wing deniers, you should see how I give it to the supposedly green person who doesn't want a wind farm to ruin his view. Both sides can only be defeated by having reasonable people know the alternatives that result from inaction.

4. Do the common sense things if you don't already. Insulate your house. Turn off lights that are not in use. Buy the curly bulbs. Walk or ride a bike for short trips. Recycle. Don't take 45 minutes in the shower. Get clean in 10 minute. Keep your car in good shape with the tires inflated and the engine clean.

5. If you can afford a hybrid or smart car, buy it. The price goes down as the market goes up.

6. The same applies to solar panels. And that car and those panels are a great conversation opener to educate people with!

7. Actually write your congress critter. It is impossible to overstate the value of just having a concerned citizen write a real letter that doesn't rave and talks sensibly. The number of Americans willing to do so is very small. We are generally too lazy to do it. If a congress critter sees such a letter, he or she assumes that there must be much more sentiment behind it than just one writer. After all, most people won't write in even about things that they will argue until blue in the face. If every lizard did just this step tonight, it would have a potentially profound effect.

8. Do not be afraid to walk the talk. This is a global issue. It is not as if you are exempt from the consequences.

9. Learn about the alternatives we do have to stop this madness. There really are viable technologies that can fix this. Be able to tell people and your congress critter about the benefits of smart grids, nuclear, solar and wind. When some idiot in your neighborhood speaks up in a town meeting about not wanting a windmill, present the counter argument yourself.

10. There is hope if we act now. However the clock is ticking and the science seems to be saying that it is ticking faster and faster.

281 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:51:51pm

re: #279 Decatur Deb

Why should government rely on middlemen in the era of blog polls?

why should that industry be exempt from being replaced by technology?

282 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:52:25pm

re: #273 marjoriemoon

It seems Obama has delayed regulations on greenhouse gases until next year if I'm reading this right.

[Link: thehill.com...]

and this

[Link: www.biologicaldiversity.org...]

Yes he has. He completely shelved it in favor of health care. I can only pray that enough Americans speak up about this between now and then, that he does not shelve it for another year.

283 soap_man  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:53:08pm

re: #278 brookly red

in fact why don't we just have the Governor also be the Senator? now that seems more representational to me...

Well, the whole point of the Senate was to have representatives of each state's government have a say on the national level. That was true until 1913.

Personally, I'm not sure it's such a bad idea to have senators be appointed members from the state legislators/governors. Governors have no say in national legislation, yet have to follow every damn law they pass.

(I realize the irony of my statements, being from Illinois and all. So don't bother pointing that out.)

284 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:53:49pm

re: #283 soap_man

Well, the whole point of the Senate was to have representatives of each state's government have a say on the national level. That was true until 1913.

Personally, I'm not sure it's such a bad idea to have senators be appointed members from the state legislators/governors. Governors have no say in national legislation, yet have to follow every damn law they pass.

(I realize the irony of my statements, being from Illinois and all. So don't bother pointing that out.)

Burn baby burn...

285 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:57:50pm

re: #282 LudwigVanQuixote

Yes he has. He completely shelved it in favor of health care. I can only pray that enough Americans speak up about this between now and then, that he does not shelve it for another year.

don't worry we will :)

286 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:58:30pm

re: #283 soap_man

Well, the whole point of the Senate was to have representatives of each state's government have a say on the national level. That was true until 1913.

Personally, I'm not sure it's such a bad idea to have senators be appointed members from the state legislators/governors. Governors have no say in national legislation, yet have to follow every damn law they pass.

(I realize the irony of my statements, being from Illinois and all. So don't bother pointing that out.)

It's not really ironic. The subtext is just a sad commentary on the Democratic machine in this state.

287 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:58:32pm

re: #285 brookly red

don't worry we will :)

You just made my evening. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

288 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:59:02pm

re: #283 soap_man

Well, the whole point of the Senate was to have representatives of each state's government have a say on the national level. That was true until 1913.

Personally, I'm not sure it's such a bad idea to have senators be appointed members from the state legislators/governors. Governors have no say in national legislation, yet have to follow every damn law they pass.

(I realize the irony of my statements, being from Illinois and all. So don't bother pointing that out.)

My next governor, because of today's local events, will probably be a man who was ousted from Chief Justice of the state supreme court because he refused a court order to remove a couple tons of "10 Commandments" monument from the courthouse. I like the federal government.

289 Virginia Plain  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 5:59:39pm

Don't know if this has already been posted or not:

US Bishops Quietly Reinstate Accused Priests.

And the beat goes on...

290 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:00:28pm

re: #280 LudwigVanQuixote

When I became a veghead back in the 80's, I started doing a lot of these things, all in fact, outside of writing my Congressperson (I've written about other stuff!) and though now I'm a heathen meat eater, most of it's become part of my lifestyle.

Impact windows for the house, new roof, the bulbs, use the AC only when needed, recycle - not just waste, but reuse items as well. I composted for many years also. Took public transportation for about 10 years, although I don't anymore. Bought fuel efficient cars within our budget.

I hear ya.

291 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:00:54pm

re: #287 LudwigVanQuixote

You just made my evening. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

uh, sorry about your heart... I should have used the sarc tag...
we will speak out but I don't think you will like it.

292 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:01:32pm

re: #282 LudwigVanQuixote

Yes he has. He completely shelved it in favor of health care. I can only pray that enough Americans speak up about this between now and then, that he does not shelve it for another year.

Energy was on his list. There were 4 things he talked about in during the campaign. Healthcare, education, energy and one more, I can't recall.

293 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:02:33pm

re: #289 Virginia Plain

Don't know if this has already been posted or not:

US Bishops Quietly Reinstate Accused Priests.

And the beat goes on...

Ahh hell.

Seriously?

I have tried very hard to refrain from openly bashing the church out of respect for the pain that such stories must make good and decent Catholics feel.

This is too fucking much though.

If the Church does not get a clue about this, then there should be federal action taken for their aiding and abetting of pedophiles. I imagine a few bishops doing a stint in federal prison will do the trick.

294 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:03:58pm

re: #292 marjoriemoon

Energy was on his list. There were 4 things he talked about in during the campaign. Healthcare, education, energy and one more, I can't recall.

OK more nukes & off shore drilling... I am starting to warm up to this guy. I do question his choice not to drill off Alaska as partisan but hey it's a start.

295 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:04:00pm

re: #291 brookly red

uh, sorry about your heart... I should have used the sarc tag...
we will speak out but I don't think you will like it.

Then they should learn the science before opening their mouths and saying something dangerous and ignorant.

296 soap_man  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:04:02pm

re: #292 marjoriemoon

Energy was on his list. There were 4 things he talked about in during the campaign. Healthcare, education, energy and one more, I can't recall.

Hope?

297 soap_man  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:04:33pm

re: #296 soap_man

Hope?

No, wait. It was "change" wasn't it?

298 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:06:01pm

re: #295 LudwigVanQuixote

Then they should learn the science before opening their mouths and saying something dangerous and ignorant.

yes of course...

now do I want soup or egg-roll? Hmmmm?

299 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:06:11pm

re: #293 LudwigVanQuixote

Ahh hell.

Seriously?

I have tried very hard to refrain from openly bashing the church out of respect for the pain that such stories must make good and decent Catholics feel.

This is too fucking much though.

If the Church does not get a clue about this, then there should be federal action taken for their aiding and abetting of pedophiles. I imagine a few bishops doing a stint in federal prison will do the trick.

Quite Concur. When my best friend hears this, he's going to hit the roof.

300 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:06:20pm

Rice can save your iPhone

301 sngnsgt  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:06:22pm

re: #297 soap_man

No, wait. It was "change" wasn't it?

Hopeychange!

302 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:06:38pm

re: #294 brookly red

OK more nukes & off shore drilling... I am starting to warm up to this guy. I do question his choice not to drill off Alaska as partisan but hey it's a start.

Offshore drilling of any kind can only insure more dependence on burning fossil fuels. It is also absolutely false to assume that American companies drilling for oil will save you any money or help America as a whole.

There is NO JUST FOR AMERICA OIL MARKET. Get that clear. The oil gets sold all over the world and will have almost no impact in reducing your prices or decreasing our dependence on foreign oil since world demand for energy only keeps climbing. The only people who profit from this are the oil companies and their pet politicians.

303 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:07:37pm

re: #290 marjoriemoon

When I became a veghead back in the 80's, I started doing a lot of these things, all in fact, outside of writing my Congressperson (I've written about other stuff!) and though now I'm a heathen meat eater, most of it's become part of my lifestyle.

Impact windows for the house, new roof, the bulbs, use the AC only when needed, recycle - not just waste, but reuse items as well. I composted for many years also. Took public transportation for about 10 years, although I don't anymore. Bought fuel efficient cars within our budget.

I hear ya.

I know you do. BTW I am not a vegan and I am not trying to force that on anyone. Being interested in preserving the environment is not just for hippies anymore.

304 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:08:10pm

re: #302 LudwigVanQuixote

Offshore drilling of any kind can only insure more dependence on burning fossil fuels. It is also absolutely false to assume that American companies drilling for oil will save you any money or help America as a whole.

There is NO JUST FOR AMERICA OIL MARKET. Get that clear. The oil gets sold all over the world and will have almost no impact in reducing your prices or decreasing our dependence on foreign oil since world demand for energy only keeps climbing. The only people who profit from this are the oil companies and their pet politicians.

actually I am warm right now in my rent regulated apartment... it's really kinda nice.

305 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:08:11pm

re: #289 Virginia Plain

Don't know if this has already been posted or not:

US Bishops Quietly Reinstate Accused Priests.

And the beat goes on...

There is at least one problem in the text. A civil jury split 9-3 on the illustration case. That's not a conviction. Should your boss fire you if you are sued? Yes, the church is in brain-lock. I'd still want to watch due process in individual cases.

306 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:08:17pm

So.. Here are the most up date date plans for this weekend in Indy..
The package includes free parking Sunday.. But everybody is in town for Saturday..So the Boys and I are doing the free music downtown Saturday..
Although the Stone Temple Pilots are very tempting Friday night..
So Sunday we have free parking at Conceco so we'll park and take a bus to the goo goo dolls.. Take a bus back..Eat for free for 4 at the footlocker...Awesome joint..Then watch basketball in row 10 section 20..
All four tickets free..Cause I won the package from FED-EX..
I Fucking love you FED-EX...
( This is interesting.. When you win the 4 ticket package from FED-EX you have to submit every bodies name using the tickets...Which is weird..I won them and have them in my hot little hands..Why every bodies name?
What crap! After Sunday I'm emailing FED-EX the following reply..)
Thank you for the Tickets Sunday in Indy..I'm not sure who I took with the other 3 tickets...I'm pretty sure they were all Hookers From Duke but the only name I recall is Candi..Does that help?
/Mess them up!

307 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:09:01pm

re: #289 Virginia Plain

Don't know if this has already been posted or not:

US Bishops Quietly Reinstate Accused Priests.

And the beat goes on...

If the Church's internal investigation cleared those priests, then they should say so, rather than sneak them back into their posts.

308 ryannon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:09:31pm

re: #10 The Curmudgeon

All old comics are good, but I'm a Tales from the Crypt fan.

If you haven't known the first EC Comics, you haven't known comics.

309 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:09:36pm

re: #300 The Sanity Inspector

Rice can save your iPhone

There are restaurants that put rice in the salt shakers to try to keep the humidity out of the salt.

310 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:09:36pm

re: #304 brookly red

actually I am warm right now in my rent regulated apartment... it's really kinda nice.

And you think it is impossible to heat it with other means of power? I do not see your point.

311 freetoken  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:11:51pm

re: #288 Decatur Deb

My next governor, because of today's local events ...

312 freetoken  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:12:17pm

That was supposed to be a question to DD: what local events?

313 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:12:24pm

re: #294 brookly red

OK more nukes & off shore drilling... I am starting to warm up to this guy. I do question his choice not to drill off Alaska as partisan but hey it's a start.

Actually, he never took off shore drilling off the table, if I'm remembering correctly. See this is why I get snippy when the Right calls him a far left liberal. He never was. I can point to the escalation of the war in Afghanistan, too. I mean, he's a liberal alright! He's a Democrat.

I don't know what he's going to do in terms of off-shore drilling. I wish he wouldn't. Environmental issues aside, there isn't enough oil there past one generation so how long do we put back the inevitable?

When he does get to energy, we'll see some changes regarding alternative fuels. Even now there are tax incentives/credits to energy companies who research and develop alternative energy.

315 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:13:47pm

re: #310 LudwigVanQuixote

And you think it is impossible to heat it with other means of power? I do not see your point.

of course it is... in fact I live by several major rivers & hydro-electric is my choice... we used to have it here in NYC but as you know it's a democratic power house so we shut down all the (nice clean) hydro plants and bought in to oil. How the fuck could that have happened?

316 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:14:00pm

re: #303 LudwigVanQuixote

I know you do. BTW I am not a vegan and I am not trying to force that on anyone. Being interested in preserving the environment is not just for hippies anymore.

hehe The hippies, indeed, were going on about this in the 60s. Just think if we did something about it then. We'd be so far along today.

317 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:14:57pm

re: #312 freetoken

That was supposed to be a question to DD: what local events?

Inside Alabama politics. The Repub primary field shrunk to 2 with the judge the stronger candidate, and the leading Dem primary candidate would be the first black governor.

318 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:16:16pm

re: #289 Virginia Plain

Hugh Hewitt had an interesting interview today with the priest who was the prosecutor of the serial molester of deaf students, and the possibility of the Pope's knowledge of the events.
"Pope Benedict and the Milwaukee Molester"
SNIP
Lawrence Murphy was a serial molester of deaf boys during his 25 year tenure as head of St. John's School for the Deaf in Milwaukee, from 1950 to 1975. Murphy died in 1998.

It's at Hugh Hewitt dot com.
Not sure if Hugh is OK to link or not.

319 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:16:53pm

re: #313 marjoriemoon

Actually, he never took off shore drilling off the table, if I'm remembering correctly. See this is why I get snippy when the Right calls him a far left liberal. He never was. I can point to the escalation of the war in Afghanistan, too. I mean, he's a liberal alright! He's a Democrat.

I don't know what he's going to do in terms of off-shore drilling. I wish he wouldn't. Environmental issues aside, there isn't enough oil there past one generation so how long do we put back the inevitable?

When he does get to energy, we'll see some changes regarding alternative fuels. Even now there are tax incentives/credits to energy companies who research and develop alternative energy.

Well said.

Obama is not a far left liberal. The issue is that the right has gone so nuts, anyone to the left of Rush, Paul, Beck, Buchanan and John Birch is a leftist in their deluded eyes.

Obama is not a bad president either.

However he is an idealistic and somewhat naive president who is learning the political ropes on the job. He is a weak president who can not control his own party or effectively shut down the lies of the opposition.

He is completely wrong about Israel.

As a result, he will do an average job or even potentially an above average job when the truth is that the situation is bad enough that only a truly superior president could really fix things.

320 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:17:05pm

re: #292 marjoriemoon

Energy was on his list. There were 4 things he talked about in during the campaign. Healthcare, education, energy and one more, I can't recall.

The economy.

321 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:17:13pm

re: #316 marjoriemoon

hehe The hippies, indeed, were going on about this in the 60s. Just think if we did something about it then. We'd be so far along today.

So true.

322 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:17:24pm

re: #313 marjoriemoon

Actually, he never took off shore drilling off the table, if I'm remembering correctly. See this is why I get snippy when the Right calls him a far left liberal. He never was. I can point to the escalation of the war in Afghanistan, too. I mean, he's a liberal alright! He's a Democrat.

I don't know what he's going to do in terms of off-shore drilling. I wish he wouldn't. Environmental issues aside, there isn't enough oil there past one generation so how long do we put back the inevitable?

When he does get to energy, we'll see some changes regarding alternative fuels. Even now there are tax incentives/credits to energy companies who research and develop alternative energy.

[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

In June 2008, then-Sen. Obama told reporters in Jacksonville, Florida, "when I'm president, I intend to keep in place the moratorium here in Florida and around the country that prevents oil companies from drilling off Florida's coasts. That's how we can protect our coastline and still make the investments that will reduce our dependence on foreign oil and bring down gas prices for good."

323 freetoken  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:17:30pm

re: #317 Decatur Deb

... and the leading Dem primary candidate would be the first black governor.


Well, everyone tells me that miracles do indeed happen.

Hell, even LVQ probably believes in miracles, though his fellow scientists Dawkins and PZed would ridicule him for it...

Are you telling me that Roy Moore will be the next governor?

324 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:18:07pm

re: #306 HoosierHoops

More than a little excited, aren't you?
LOL!
You're going to have a SUPER time!

325 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:19:21pm

re: #303 LudwigVanQuixote

I know you do. BTW I am not a vegan and I am not trying to force that on anyone. Being interested in preserving the environment is not just for hippies anymore.

The vegetarian diet didn't suit me well. I had a lot of anemia. I tried making up for the lack of protein with dairy until I broke out in a dairy allergy. Then I became a vegan for about 3 months. It was really hard LOL Eventually, I was able to eat dairy again.

326 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:19:34pm

re: #316 marjoriemoon

hehe The hippies, indeed, were going on about this in the 60s. Just think if we did something about it then. We'd be so far along today.

Well, we are coming up on the 40th anniversary of Earth Day, you know. And before that, "ecology" was known as "conservation". So, it's not as if nothing has been done in the past.

327 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:20:44pm

re: #323 freetoken

I'd give you 3 for 2 on it. We also have a ridiculous kulturkampf under way about "charity" bingo slot machines.

328 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:20:59pm

re: #319 LudwigVanQuixote

I would take issue on him being an idealist - if he were he would have pushed single payer and MASSIVE wall street reform.

Also - how do you combat deathpanels and mandatory abortions? - those things go out in chain emails to church groups, RNC sub lists and tea bagger lists. Short of sending an email to every email address in the world calling bullshit - the tv addresses and the adress to congress were pretty clear.

Agree completely about how far right the *center* of the political spectrum has become.

329 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:21:04pm

re: #316 marjoriemoon

hehe The hippies, indeed, were going on about this in the 60s. Just think if we did something about it then. We'd be so far along today.

If we had seriously done something then:

1. Major ecological catastrophe would have been averted or at least largely mitigated to the extent that the present situation would be vastly less dire.

2. The entire Middle East, with the exception of Israel, would be just a bunch of irrelevant brutal Islamic theocracies, monarchies and dictatorships - instead of a bunch of central to strategy brutal Islamic theocracies, monarchies and dictatorships whose asses we kiss.

3. Air would be cleaner.

4. American life expectancy would be longer.

5. We would have a vastly stronger economy because the money that went to a bunch of brutal Islamic theocracies, monarchies and dictatorships, instead stayed in America.

6. We would have been involved in fewer conflicts.

330 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:21:50pm

re: #319 LudwigVanQuixote

Yaaaaa....

They brought up the far left liberal stuff during the campaign trying to scare people, too.

331 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:22:00pm

re: #323 freetoken

Well, everyone tells me that miracles do indeed happen.

Hell, even LVQ probably believes in miracles, though his fellow scientists Dawkins and PZed would ridicule him for it...

Are you telling me that Roy Moore will be the next governor?

I do believe in miracles. But in a sense that would cause more of a groan from Dawkins and Weinberg than in one that would produce open ridicule.

332 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:22:01pm

re: #320 wozzablog

The economy.

That's it!

333 freetoken  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:22:28pm

re: #327 Decatur Deb

We also have a ridiculous kulturkampf under way about "charity" bingo slot machines.

I take it the state needs the revenue, but the religious leaders think it's a sin?

334 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:22:58pm

re: #332 marjoriemoon

it's the economy, stupid.


////

335 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:23:55pm

Britain's WWII sea forts

336 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:24:01pm

re: #315 brookly red

of course it is... in fact I live by several major rivers & hydro-electric is my choice... we used to have it here in NYC but as you know it's a democratic power house so we shut down all the (nice clean) hydro plants and bought in to oil. How the fuck could that have happened?

yes Ludvig, here in NYC the most liberal place on the planet surrounded by major rivers we don't have hydro-electric power... we burn coal & oil to supply 8 million people & some really big lights in times square :) and well pray tell did the free clean hydro power go away??? you can't handle the truth.

337 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:24:03pm

re: #333 freetoken

I bet it's the other way around. The churches want the slots, the state doesn't because they won't get any tax revenue.

338 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:24:28pm

Thank god for boozy hippies. I just talked to a neighbor of mine who is part of a private wine making co-op. She showed me her set up in the basement and she makes about 30 gallons of wine every year and seems to know what's she's doing. Hopefully she can find me a place in the group, it's pretty much invitation only. I also scored a few free bottle of homemade pinot. Nice!

339 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:25:25pm

re: #322 brookly red

[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

In June 2008, then-Sen. Obama told reporters in Jacksonville, Florida, "when I'm president, I intend to keep in place the moratorium here in Florida and around the country that prevents oil companies from drilling off Florida's coasts. That's how we can protect our coastline and still make the investments that will reduce our dependence on foreign oil and bring down gas prices for good."

But further down.

But by August, then-Sen. Obama signaled that he was willing to support legislation that included off-shore drilling as part of a bipartisan compromise.

"What I don't want is for the best to be the enemy of the good," he said at the time. "If we can come up with a genuine bipartisan compromise, in which I have to accept some things I don't like and the Democrats have to accept some things they don't like, when it's actually moving us in the direction of energy independence, I'm open to that. What I will not do is support a plan that suggests that drilling is the answer to our energy problems."

Rather presidential of him, do you think?

340 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:26:18pm

re: #324 Floral Giraffe

More than a little excited, aren't you?
LOL!
You're going to have a SUPER time!

Yes my Dear...I am very excited for this weekend..
I moving soon and my last months here in Indiana are cool.. Basketball crazy state with Butler in the Final.. I could have not written a better script...
Secretly..With all her faults.. I'm miss Indiana.. Mostly the good people I've met here...

341 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:26:26pm

re: #338 Killgore Trout

LOL! KT, are you going to become a "boozy hippie"?

342 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:26:38pm

re: #338 Killgore Trout
Sweet!

343 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:26:40pm

re: #339 marjoriemoon

Rather presidential of him, do you think?

I like the idea of drilling, let's see if it actually happens.

344 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:27:26pm

re: #333 freetoken

I take it the state needs the revenue, but the religious leaders think it's a sin?

That's way too simple for Alabama. It involves country-western stars, Mississippi Indians, Alabama maybe-Indians, Jack Abramoff, hundreds of state troopers, and the war between thew Governor and Attorney General. Oh yeah, preachers too, and pawn shop owners, hookers-in-training, greyhounds, and lots of money. Do you want the long version?

345 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:28:41pm

re: #326 The Sanity Inspector

Well, we are coming up on the 40th anniversary of Earth Day, you know. And before that, "ecology" was known as "conservation". So, it's not as if nothing has been done in the past.

Yea but probably not enough. Particularly cars should have been getting better and they weren't.

346 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:28:58pm

re: #344 Decatur Deb
Mwahaha! Sounds like a script for a movie. Kind of like "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad World". All kinds of silliness running amok.

347 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:29:15pm

re: #315 brookly red

of course it is... in fact I live by several major rivers & hydro-electric is my choice... we used to have it here in NYC but as you know it's a democratic power house so we shut down all the (nice clean) hydro plants and bought in to oil. How the fuck could that have happened?

come out and play...

348 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:29:36pm

re: #340 HoosierHoops

Is that like my friend from Bakersfield, who always says "It's a nice place to be from"?
I get living with nice people. I moved from Hollywierd to a "family oriented" community. No one blows their car horns here, you want to make a left turn? They let you in. Yes, stop & give you plenty of room. It was odd, for the first few months.

349 freetoken  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:29:54pm

re: #337 pingjockey

Okay, I googled the issue:

SEN. BEDFORD'S SLOT MACHINE 'BINGO' LEGISLATION PASSES SENATE

Alabama Senators voted today to pass Senate Bill 380 to legalize and expand slot machine gambling, which is currently illegal and being referred to as electronic bingo. [...]

Now, the bill will face the Alabama House. If it passes and is not vetoed by Governor Bob Riley, it will go before Alabama residents for a vote.

Hours before the vote, senators opposing the bill were not allowed to participate in the debate. They had hoped to present an amendment giving Alabamians what they called a “clear vote” on gambling, but filibusters from the bill’s supporters kept opponents from speaking until less than 30 minutes before the vote was called.


“It’s time the people understand what’s going on in the Senate,” said Sen. Paul Sanford, R-Huntsville, after he realized there was not enough time to present his amendment. “They don’t want the truth to be out. They don’t want to discuss the positives and negatives of this issue. … Why is it they stand up here and say let the people vote but they do not let the senators have a say on the bill? … This was a show for the media and the gallery, and it’s unfortunate. It is a disservice to the state of Alabama. … Today is a perfect example of how government does not function for the citizens of Alabama.”

Sen. Hank Erwin, R-Montevallo, said today's vote was a "display of brute, raw power."

[...]

Joe Godfrey, executive director of Alabama Citizens Action Program, said pro-gambling senators “rammed the bill through.”

Sounds like the local GOP has picked up one from the national GOP playbook, recycling the anti-HCR talking points.

350 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:30:06pm

re: #341 Floral Giraffe

LOL! KT, are you going to become a "boozy hippie"?

I'm pretty boozy but not hippie by Portland standards. My other neighbor is growing hops. We're talking about pooling our resources and buying a cider press for communal use. Socialism!

351 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:31:08pm

re: #343 brookly red

I like the idea of drilling, let's see if it actually happens.

Why do you like drilling if you don't mind the question.

352 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:31:09pm

re: #350 Killgore Trout

LOL!
How's the fat lady neighbor doing?

353 freetoken  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:31:43pm

re: #344 Decatur Deb

We out here in California have had our own gambling law debacles, with the Native tribes vs. the Vegas industry being the centerpiece and the local pols taking which ever side gives them the most money.

354 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:31:57pm

re: #349 freetoken
The words sound the same fer sure. We have a state lotto and gambling on the Indian reservations. What's the uproar down there?

355 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:33:06pm

re: #353 freetoken
I was in San Diego when the state raided a casino outside of SD and the Feds made the state give all the confiscated stuff back.

356 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:33:57pm

re: #188 Slightly Drooling Love Child of Beck

What you mean patriotic freedom fighters against the new world order...

Really guys, you are giving me nothing to work with at all.

For the record - I do hate to piss on your Pollyannish parade, but sometimes that's the way the rain comes down - see here.

357 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:34:09pm

re: #352 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
How's the fat lady neighbor doing?

She's doing much better. Seems to have lost enough weight that she can now get around much better and doesn't even use her scooter anymore. Pretty impressive.

358 Racer X  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:35:05pm

Video Game Health Care Bill

359 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:35:16pm

re: #345 marjoriemoon

I commented in one of the threads downstairs about the divergent tacks taken by EU/Japan and America on fuel economy and the use of and refined development of diesel and petrol engines.

I belive, but i don't have the link to hand, that large american cars are less fuel efficient than equivalent models, and that SUVs are much less efficient than MPVs.

The seven seat family "light truck" that infests the freeway with a single occupant - bah.

360 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:35:23pm

Aww man I am slipping. At the village of the banned, the best insult I have managed is they think I am Tom Cruise.

Damn.

C'mon guys this is me Ludwig. I openly hate your vile racist obese science denying, genocide pimping drunken rants!

I've always hated you guys for that and your misogyny, stupidity, homophobia, false piety, false machismo and grade school drop out educations.

And here is a special shout out to any of the Tribe who are over there. You are Aware that the Serbs were allies of the Nazis? Remember that?

You are aware that those beloved Serbs turned to genocide against the Muslims as soo as they were able to - just like they did the Jews?

If you are a Jew and you post over there, you are worse than the scum who infests the site in general. You are a traitor to the People who has left your fear blind you to the monsters you post with.

Ohh and a special shout to the Rodent. I don't hate Hispanics at all. Just alcoholic, cowardly, drunken racist genocidal ones, like you.

361 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:35:53pm

re: #351 marjoriemoon

Why do you like drilling if you don't mind the question.

well we need oil for better or worse (I don't drive do you?) so should we get it here or buy it from people who don't like us very much>

362 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:36:11pm

re: #339 marjoriemoon

Rather presidential of him, do you think?

Yes, it is.

363 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:36:15pm

re: #173 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, I am succumbing to bad curiousity. How do I locate Yoopers place of blognation?

defenseman.wordpress.com

364 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:36:28pm

re: #361 brookly red

canadians?

365 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:36:54pm

re: #353 freetoken

We out here in California have had our own gambling law debacles, with the Native tribes vs. the Vegas industry being the centerpiece and the local pols taking which ever side gives them the most money.

That's big chunk of it. The Feds are tied in because of an obscure law giving the state the right to sort of define the kinds of gambling allowed on Indian land. Some of the Casino Indians from out of state are trying to disallow the tribal identity of some of our guys who missed the muster for the Trail of Tears. Our last governor is still in jail (he's probably wrongly-convicted, but belongs there anyway).

366 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:38:02pm

re: #360 LudwigVanQuixote
Tom Cruise? I admit it I am baffled.

367 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:38:07pm

re: #356 Cato the Elder

For the record - I do hate to piss on your Pollyannish parade, but sometimes that's the way the rain comes down - see here.

Cato are you getting all, it doesn't matter about AGW, because we are all fucked anyway again with someone? Are you then honestly calling that post pollyannish when your entire premise is that the situation is even worse than was claimed?

368 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:39:07pm

re: #360 LudwigVanQuixote

Aww man I am slipping. At the village of the banned, the best insult I have managed is they think I am Tom Cruise.

Damn.

C'mon guys this is me Ludwig. I openly hate your vile racist obese science denying, genocide pimping drunken rants!

I've always hated you guys for that and your misogyny, stupidity, homophobia, false piety, false machismo and grade school drop out educations.

And here is a special shout out to any of the Tribe who are over there. You are Aware that the Serbs were allies of the Nazis? Remember that?

You are aware that those beloved Serbs turned to genocide against the Muslims as soo as they were able to - just like they did the Jews?

If you are a Jew and you post over there, you are worse than the scum who infests the site in general. You are a traitor to the People who has left your fear blind you to the monsters you post with.

Ohh and a special shout to the Rodent. I don't hate Hispanics at all. Just alcoholic, cowardly, drunken racist genocidal ones, like you.

Ludwig come out unt play ... NYC 8 million democrats strong & between 2 rivers... no hydro-electrical plants since 1940... vas up vis dat?

369 firstinla  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:41:06pm

Here in California the state apparently is allowing the Native Americans who have casinos to purchase land "off reservation" so they can build casinos closer to more populated areas. Look for one near you soon.
The anti-gambling forces are threatening to go all the way to the SCOTUS. How dare the native Americans try anything "off reservation" seems to be the issue.

370 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:41:16pm

re: #361 brookly red

well we need oil for better or worse (I don't drive do you?) so should we get it here or buy it from people who don't like us very much>

I'm under no illusions that we can get rid of oil completely. Nor should we, but by way of personal consumption, the two big ticket items being housing and cars, we could become nearly oil free. I also don't think it's wise to cut off all foreign trade. In fact, I'm pretty sure that would bring down the world economy.

Kudos for public transport.

And now I have to go watch Modern Family with my beloved.

371 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:41:42pm

re: #368 brookly red

Ludwig come out unt play ... NYC 8 million democrats strong & between 2 rivers... no hydro-electrical plants since 1940... vas up vis dat?

Is this from the village of the banned?

372 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:42:18pm

re: #344 Decatur Deb

That's way too simple for Alabama. It involves country-western stars, Mississippi Indians, Alabama maybe-Indians, Jack Abramoff, hundreds of state troopers, and the war between thew Governor and Attorney General. Oh yeah, preachers too, and pawn shop owners, hookers-in-training, greyhounds, and lots of money. Do you want the long version?

Here in Louisiana, we don't have any gambling whatsoever, because it's constitutionally prohibited.

What we have here is gaming.

373 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:42:20pm

re: #366 pingjockey

Tom Cruise? I admit it I am baffled.

Yeah, for one thing I am much taller!

374 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:42:44pm

re: #373 LudwigVanQuixote

Yeah, for one thing I am much taller!

Everybody's taller than Tom Cruise.

375 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:43:08pm

re: #371 LudwigVanQuixote

Is this from the village of the banned?

no from das world of facts... deal fraulein

376 firstinla  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:43:22pm

re: #373 LudwigVanQuixote

If you are over 5 feet tall you are taller than Cruise.

377 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:43:52pm

re: #374 reine.de.tout

Everybody's taller than Tom Cruise.

OK ok good point... I also sometimes blink my eyes.

And, I oh yes, am not a total zombie for Scientology.

378 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:44:25pm

re: #373 LudwigVanQuixote
Heh. BTW, which village of the damned? I love train wrecks! Also while I was out sick I knew someone had started lgf2 which isn't us!

379 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:45:01pm

re: #371 LudwigVanQuixote

re: #375 brookly red

Both of you cool it! I'm very tired and I've got yet another long drive to go before I get to where I'm sleeping tonight. I don't need a flame war here.

380 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:45:19pm

re: #372 reine.de.tout

Sounds so much better with a little accent.

381 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:45:28pm

re: #375 brookly red

no from das world of facts... deal fraulein

Ohh so you are openly trying to bait me then? I see. Well my little liebchen I can only respond in this manner.

Youtube Video
382 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:45:48pm

re: #379 Dark_Falcon

re: #375 brookly red

Both of you cool it! I'm very tired and I've got yet another long drive to go before I get to where I'm sleeping tonight. I don't need a flame war here.

What? OK Carter, I haven't even fired a shot!

383 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:46:22pm

re: #367 LudwigVanQuixote

Cato are you getting all, it doesn't matter about AGW, because we are all fucked anyway again with someone? Are you then honestly calling that post pollyannish when your entire premise is that the situation is even worse than was claimed?

LVQ, I admit, I am a pessimist (reserving an optimistic streak in case I'm wrong).

So were all the Hebrew prophets. Sue me!

384 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:48:06pm

re: #379 Dark_Falcon

re: #375 brookly red

Both of you cool it! I'm very tired and I've got yet another long drive to go before I get to where I'm sleeping tonight. I don't need a flame war here.

no flame war just history... I live in the lib capital of the world with rivers all around me & yet no hydro power... we used to have it, where did it go? no flame war, just inconvenient truths.

385 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:48:16pm

re: #382 LudwigVanQuixote

What? OK Carter, I haven't even fired a shot!

Sorry Ludwig, but comparing Brookly to the stalkers is "firing a shot". I'm not going to yell tonight, I'm just tired. Sorry if I seemed out of line. I've actually had a good day, even got a job offer that may be good.

386 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:48:43pm

re: #378 pingjockey

Heh. BTW, which village of the damned? I love train wrecks! Also while I was out sick I knew someone had started lgf2 which isn't us!

That is the main village of the banned.

There are smaller satellites - sort of banned lite sites, but those are the most vile concentration of truly mind numbingly assholish and ignorant you will find.

In short...

Youtube Video
387 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:49:04pm

re: #385 Dark_Falcon

Sorry Ludwig, but comparing Brookly to the stalkers is "firing a shot". I'm not going to yell tonight, I'm just tired. Sorry if I seemed out of line. I've actually had a good day, even got a job offer that may be good.

No, I honestly thought he was quoting them.

388 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:49:20pm

re: #368 brookly red

Ludwig come out unt play ... NYC 8 million democrats strong & between 2 rivers... no hydro-electrical plants since 1940... vas up vis dat?

Brooklyn--Ya got some in the works. (It's small, but neat for a tidal river.)

[Link: www.verdantpower.com...]

389 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:49:27pm

re: #383 Cato the Elder
You would have been a pessimist too, if you had been trying to keep folks in line while living in the desert!

390 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:49:49pm

re: #384 brookly red

no flame war just history... I live in the lib capital of the world with rivers all around me & yet no hydro power... we used to have it, where did it go? no flame war, just inconvenient truths.

And the fact is that there could be hydro power. Even better would be about five nuke plants.

391 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:50:56pm

re: #381 LudwigVanQuixote

Ohh so you are openly trying to bait me then? I see. Well my little liebchen I can only respond in this manner.


[Video]

bait you? why would I want to bait you? where is my clean green hydro power in my lib/dem city? we once had it but it is gone... should I blame Bush?

392 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:51:09pm

re: #384 brookly red


"Liberalism" has nothing to do with power sources.

Trying to tie one to the other is - well - frankly, odd.

London is a pretty progressive city in innovation terms, but the Thames doesn't have a tidal powerstation.

393 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:51:30pm

re: #386 LudwigVanQuixote
Heh. Thanks. I have been going to a couple and find myself amused and horrified at the same time. The one Charles had about the flag was a new one on me. The site about us and the Tea Party and the state flag that is.

394 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:51:49pm

re: #383 Cato the Elder

LVQ, I admit, I am a pessimist (reserving an optimistic streak in case I'm wrong).

So were all the Hebrew prophets. Sue me!

Lol, ok Cato. I admit I am a pessimist about it too. However pretty much all of those Hebrew prophets said, if you change your ways you can save yourselves. In fact that was the central message of all of them even Jeremiah - until the final sack. The he wrote about a sort of I told you so.

So actually your message of utter we are screwed is the exact opposite of the prophets.

395 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:52:30pm

re: #391 brookly red

bait you? why would I want to bait you? where is my clean green hydro power in my lib/dem city? we once had it but it is gone... should I blame Bush?

Ahh ok fine then the answer is that both parties suck on this issue. However, the GOP sicks more in that it even denies the issue exists.

396 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:53:48pm

re: #390 LudwigVanQuixote

And the fact is that there could be hydro power. Even better would be about five nuke plants.

exactly there could be hydro power & in fact there was hydro power ... was hydro power, in case you missed it WAS hydro power... where did it go since this is a very liberal democratic city...

397 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:56:04pm

re: #396 brookly red

exactly there could be hydro power & in fact there was hydro power ... was hydro power, in case you missed it WAS hydro power... where did it go since this is a very liberal democratic city...

Well it probably had something to do with shipping concerns. I really don't know the history.

In either case what is your point?

If it is to say that Dems as a party do not walk the walk, I have already said that myself hundreds of times here on this blog and I even said so tonight!

So really what are you driving at?

398 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:56:34pm

re: #396 brookly red

RITE seems to be in phase 3 on Roosevelt Island. Video at 388.

399 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:56:48pm

re: #396 brookly red

exactly there could be hydro power & in fact there was hydro power ... was hydro power, in case you missed it WAS hydro power... where did it go since this is a very liberal democratic city...

100 years of democrat rule and and all my hydro plants are gone...

oh well that some how is Bush's fault...

400 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:57:23pm

re: #363 Cato the Elder

Have SERIOUS need for brain bleach.
STAT.
I can't believe I went in the cheap haz-mat suit.
Decontamination starting now!

401 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:58:22pm

re: #397 LudwigVanQuixote

Well it probably had something to do with shipping concerns. I really don't know the history.

In either case what is your point?

If it is to say that Dems as a party do not walk the walk, I have already said that myself hundreds of times here on this blog and I even said so tonight!

So really what are you driving at?

my point is point is your people fucked up and sold out & you don't have the balls to deal. :) hello kitty

402 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:59:10pm

re: #399 brookly red

100 years of democrat rule and and all my hydro plants are gone...

oh well that some how is Bush's fault...

mmmhmmm. So that is a convenient brush over of the actual sins of the GOP in this matter and about as sensible as when the right tries to find a menacing liberal giant puppet as a counter example to Timothy McVeigh.

I hate to say it, but as a trolling attempt this is really lame my friend. It barely rates a 5.5/10.00 from the East German judge.

403 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:59:28pm

re: #385 Dark_Falcon

YEAH! A job offer! Good for you!

404 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:00:38pm

re: #401 brookly red

my point is point is your people fucked up and sold out & you don't have the balls to deal. :) hello kitty

Ummm duder, I am not a Dem. If I type that another 500 times here, then maybe people will get that... or maybe not.

Yes you are right. The Dems fuck up on this too. However, the GOP is much worse about it. Are you really trying to debate that? I mean really?

405 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:01:52pm

re: #402 LudwigVanQuixote

mmmhmmm. So that is a convenient brush over of the actual sins of the GOP in this matter and about as sensible as when the right tries to find a menacing liberal giant puppet as a counter example to Timothy McVeigh.

I hate to say it, but as a trolling attempt this is really lame my friend. It barely rates a 5.5/10.00 from the East German judge.

uhhh that is the point there is no GOP in NYC you own it... it's all yours. Why did you Dems shut our hydro plants & force use to burn oil & coal? You OWN it.

406 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:02:16pm

re: #399 brookly red

100 years of democrat rule and and all my hydro plants are gone...

oh well that some how is Bush's fault...


all?

Small Hydros

Besides operating the state's largest hydroelectric projects, the New York Power Authority also generates kilowatts (kw) from five small hydro stations. We developed these projects in the 1980s to reduce the state's dependence on electricity produced by burning foreign oil. Our small hydro projects, located on rivers and reservoirs across the state, do not affect the quality or quantity of the water, which is also used for recreation, navigation and drinking.

Here's a list of our small hydros:

407 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:02:53pm

re: #406 wozzablog

[Link: www.nypa.gov...]

408 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:03:44pm

re: #404 LudwigVanQuixote

Ummm duder, I am not a Dem. If I type that another 500 times here, then maybe people will get that... or maybe not.

Yes you are right. The Dems fuck up on this too. However, the GOP is much worse about it. Are you really trying to debate that? I mean really?

debate? why should I debate? I have all the cards.

409 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:05:26pm

re: #406 wozzablog

Hey thanks wozz! Like I said, I really don't know much about the power grid structure of NYC.

Well that's what I get for taking the "facts" of someone who is obviously picking a fight at face value.

410 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:05:39pm

and now that the truth is known what more do I have to say? go ahead and curse me in my absence, a good night to all.

411 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:06:03pm

re: #410 brookly red

Curse you!

412 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:06:08pm

re: #408 brookly red

debate? why should I debate? I have all the cards.

Ummm duder it seems your entire premise is false. Try again. The East German Judge now gives you a 3.o/10.00 for your lame dismount.

413 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:06:38pm

re: #409 LudwigVanQuixote

I'm just a google monkey.

414 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:07:30pm

re: #413 wozzablog

I'm just a google monkey.

You nonetheless rock.

415 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:09:44pm

re: #414 LudwigVanQuixote

*blushers*

416 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:20:12pm

re: #412 LudwigVanQuixote

Ummm duder it seems your entire premise is false. Try again. The East German Judge now gives you a 3.o/10.00 for your lame dismount.

ha!

re: #406 wozzablog

DOUBLE ha!

Reminder: 'brookly' red knows jackshit about nyc, and was last seen claiming that gay bashing in the west village is proof that-- wait for it-- liberal dems who live in manhattan are doing the gay bashing.

Yes, I will never cease to bring that up. ;)

417 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:21:50pm

re: #403 Floral Giraffe

YEAH! A job offer! Good for you!

re: #403 Floral Giraffe

YEAH! A job offer! Good for you!

Hopefully. I'm going to have to research the position to make sure its good, but it is a real offer for a W-2 position. It's progress.

418 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:22:16pm

re: #416 iceweasel

DOUBLE ha!

Reminder: 'brookly' red knows jackshit about nyc, and was last seen claiming that gay bashing in the west village is proof that-- wait for it-- liberal dems who live in manhattan are doing the gay bashing.

Yes, I will never cease to bring that up. ;)

you scent is old & foul.

419 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:23:50pm

re: #418 brookly red

you scent is old & foul.

Hello troll. ;) Is the point where I have to remind you about the republican mayors of NYC, or the republican govs?

Nighty-nite, 'brookly'.

420 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:24:14pm

re: #417 Dark_Falcon

Hopefully. I'm going to have to research the position to make sure its good, but it is a real offer for a W-2 position. It's progress.

Congrats DF! Great news!

421 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:30:23pm

re: #419 iceweasel

i was going to point out that St Al Gore only invented the environment about a decade ago - Theres been a GOP or nominally GOP mayor of NYC since 1994, 16 years.

The 11 years of a GOP governor intersecting that time too would have been churlish of me to point out.

422 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:34:58pm

re: #421 wozzablog

i was going to point out that St Al Gore only invented the environment about a decade ago - Theres been a GOP or nominally GOP mayor of NYC since 1994, 16 years.

The 11 years of a GOP governor intersecting that time too would have been churlish of me to point out.

That was going to be my next post, but I was making Jimmah a cup of tea. ;)

Yeah, 'brookly' knows jack-all about New York. Other moments of hilarity have included: 1) Ignorance of the Rockefeller drug laws, denial that there was ever any movement to repeal them and 2) the claim that 'the word on the street in NYC' was that health reform wouldn't happen.

Anyway, troll. And as Ludwig pointed out, not even one that is especially good at it.

423 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:35:33pm

re: #418 brookly red

FERC OK's Testing New Kinetic Hydropower Plant in New York City's East River
Verdant Power Gets Precedent-Setting Approval for Testing 200 kW Power Project

By Sean O'Neill
July 29 2005, Washington, D.C.

The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC), granted Verdant Power, LLC's request to clarify that they do not require a license to deploy, on a short term (18 months), experimental basis, six 36 kW tidal power turbine units that will temporarily supply power to two customers on New York City's Roosevelt Island, at no cost. Verdant had argued that it needed to install projects and connect them to actual customers to study and evaluate how they would operate in real world conditions. Verdant will use the results of its second 18- month study to enable them to complete its application for a FERC license.

424 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:36:57pm

re: #422 iceweasel

New York state has had a Republican Governor for around 50 years of the last century.................

Not entirely sure - but don't they have some say in large infrastructure projects?

425 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:39:46pm

re: #424 wozzablog

New York state has had a Republican Governor for around 50 years of the last century...

Not entirely sure - but don't they have some say in large infrastructure projects?

They do. I regard Brookley well, but he was trying to score a political point without having done his research. He bluffed, you called.

426 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:40:12pm

re: #424 wozzablog

New York state has had a Republican Governor for around 50 years of the last century...

Not entirely sure - but don't they have some say in large infrastructure projects?

Yep. As I said, brookly is woefully ignorant. Of course, money does come from the feds too and NYS and NYC have been screwed that way more than once-- the famous Daily News headline in the 70's was "FORD TO CITY: DROP DEAD".

But hey, according to 'brookly', NYS and NYC is 'all Dem', has no hydro-- oh, and he also believes that the only place to go for Spanish food or lobster is a place in (our) Chelsea area. At this point I am rubbing it in, yes.

427 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:41:40pm

re: #425 Dark_Falcon

re: #426 iceweasel

i really am done for the night kids.

congrats on the job offer DF.

regards to jimmah unit, young weasel type creature.

428 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:04:40pm

re: #348 Floral Giraffe

Is that like my friend from Bakersfield, who always says "It's a nice place to be from"?
I get living with nice people. I moved from Hollywierd to a "family oriented" community. No one blows their car horns here, you want to make a left turn? They let you in. Yes, stop & give you plenty of room. It was odd, for the first few months.

My father is from Fresno, and he says it's not even a nice place to be from.

'Siberia with palm trees' is the expression he picked up from a fellow Fresnoan.

429 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Apr 1, 2010 3:09:31am

re: #405 brookly red

On several occasions you have said on this blog, and in no uncertain terms, that you are a democrat. Yet the language in your sentence here [emphasis mine]:

Why did you Dems shut our hydro plants & force use to burn oil & coal? You OWN it.

... seems odd. It could easily give one the impression that you have been disingenuous.


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