Hutaree Leader: a ‘Fanatic Ron Paul Supporter’

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Several people have emailed to point out that the recently arrested leader of the “Hutaree” militia was described as a “fanatic Ron Paul supporter.”

Imagine my shock. My surprise, if you will.

Adam Holland has a good post on David Brian Stone’s attraction to Dr. Paul, the current support Stone is getting from other Paulians, and the connections to an even freakier antisemitic Paulian group: Hutaree Militia and Ron/Rand Paul campaigns: some mutual support.

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628 comments
1 freetoken  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:40:19pm

May I suggest that the sentence:

Several people have emailed to point out that the recently arrested leader of the “Hutaree” militia was described as a “fanatic supporter of Ron Paul.”


be change to:

Several people have emailed to point out that the recently arrested leader of the “Hutaree” militia was described as a “fanatic supporter of Ron Paul,” the same Ron Paul who won this years CPAC straw poll.
2 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:41:59pm

re: #1 freetoken

May I suggest that the sentence:

I don't agree. This bunch was way out there. Best not to bring the GOP into this.

3 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:42:10pm

Luap Nor! Is this guy ever going away? I didn't know he didn't like Jews.

4 Stanghazi  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:42:18pm

In the past connections like these would be the end of a political career.

These days I just don't know.

5 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:44:09pm
Jews are not actually Jewish but Satanists of Central Asian descent, and that they control the world through the banking system.


Ron Paul!

6 freetoken  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:44:39pm

re: #5 Killgore Trout

BUY GOLD!!

7 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:45:17pm

re: #5 Killgore Trout
What?!

8 zora  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:46:31pm

re: #5 Killgore Trout

did he actually say that?

9 Four More Tears  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:46:46pm

re: #2 Dark_Falcon

I don't agree. This bunch was way out there. Best not to bring the GOP into this.

CPAC ≠ GOP last I checked.

10 zora  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:47:10pm

re: #5 Killgore Trout


these guys are so crazy, don't know if it is sarc or not.

11 fizzlogic  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:47:13pm

Whew, at least we can now be assured he's pro-life.

12 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:48:44pm

re: #9 JasonA

CPAC ≠ GOP last I checked.

Good point.

13 doubter4444  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:48:54pm

See!
It's not that they are right wing, it's that they are Paulians!
Watch for that to be the next meme. Ron Paul is going to be the demarcation line in the future.
Real Republicans and non crazies should and will start to separate along these lines.
Rabid Tea-bagger/Paulian vs. Republican.
I'm guessing Sarah is on the T/P side.

14 Firstinla  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:49:17pm

re: #11 trendsurfer

Whew, at least we can now be assured he's pro-life.

Stone probably wouldn't be considered in the pro-life camp considering the charges the Feds have made.

15 Firstinla  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:49:46pm

And Ron Paul is just an asshole.

16 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:50:07pm

re: #13 doubter4444

See!
It's not that they are right wing, it's that they are Paulians!
Watch for that to be the next meme. Ron Paul is going to be the demarcation line in the future.
Real Republicans and non crazies should and will start to separate along these lines.
Rabid Tea-bagger/Paulian vs. Republican.
I'm guessing Sarah is on the T/P side.

Agreed.

17 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:50:59pm

re: #10 zora

Not sarc. That's why the need the apocalyptic seed bank!

18 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:51:47pm

I am friends with a brilliant high-functioning Asperger's guy who is currently a candidate for a doctor of physics at Hopkins.

Smarts have nothing to do with acumen. He is also a raving Paulian and mourner of the past gloire of the gold standard.

U cant stp the crazee

19 zora  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:52:10pm

re: #14 Firstinla


only life in the womb counts for most "pro-lifers".

20 doubter4444  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:52:29pm

re: #16 Dark_Falcon

Agreed.

Hey, how are things?

21 Firstinla  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:52:40pm

re: #19 zora

only life in the womb counts for most "pro-lifers".

Sadly, true.

22 Racer X  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:53:26pm

Hope I die before I get old.

23 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:54:24pm

re: #18 Cato the Elder

I am friends with a brilliant high-functioning Asperger's guy who is currently a candidate for a doctor of physics at Hopkins.

Smarts have nothing to do with acumen. He is also a raving Paulian and mourner of the past gloire of the gold standard.

U cant stp the crazee

Why do you think he turned to the Bad Craziness?

24 Stanghazi  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:54:32pm

Ugh ugh ugh.

craziest detail from court hearing today for the hutaree christian warriors: one murdered his cat to show he could kill something he loved.

Dan Harris ABC News Twitter

25 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:55:33pm

g'night peeps.

26 freetoken  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:55:42pm

re: #18 Cato the Elder

I am friends with a brilliant high-functioning Asperger's guy who is currently a candidate for a doctor of physics at Hopkins.

I wonder if so much of the ravings on Youtube and various forums is an expression of Asperger's?

27 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:56:50pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea
That's just sick. I knew they were mad. But killing pets?

28 Racer X  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:57:01pm

Pineberries

The pineberry is said to combine the shape and texture of a strawberry with a flavour and smell closer to that of a pineapple.

29 zora  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:58:04pm

[Link: tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

this women looks almost the same in her mug shot as wedding pic. (same expression) maybe she's not so happy about an assault rifle wedding.

30 TampaKnight  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:58:16pm

I encourage all of you to view this, as it is a Campaign for Liberty (Ron Paul site) post about the arrests. It contains absolute deranged comments from "C4L" members who not only defend the militia, but enter into government conspiracy theories and even attack the government for "violating" their rights.

Unbelievable. Just a taste:

From user "MilitiaForFreedom"

"Everything that has been said before have been lies. I believe the funeral plot is probably a lie too. Hutaree is not a hate group or christian identity group. They are a militia that uses faith to keep up their morale. Lackomar either has no knowledge of hutaree or is a liar. If your christian and own guns then you are a target too. Good luck fellow c4l'ers. Stay on high alert."

31 Varek Raith  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:58:54pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

Ugh ugh ugh.

Dan Harris ABC News Twitter

WTF? Let's give this bastard a pet raptor and see how big he is...

32 freetoken  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 6:59:44pm

re: #30 TampaKnight

You'll find similar sentiments in the comments at the Fox websites hate sites, or the Free Republic hate-site.

33 doubter4444  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:01:26pm

re: #28 Racer X

Pineberries

The pineberry is said to combine the shape and texture of a strawberry with a flavour and smell closer to that of a pineapple.

THAT ROCKS!
Who ever said genetic manipulation is wrong is out of his/her mind!

34 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:02:07pm

re: #28 Racer X

Tried one yet?

35 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:02:38pm

re: #32 freetoken
Fox isn't policing their websites? I'm disappointed. Free Republic and there counterparts on the left I could care less, or used to. Let them rant, now I'm concerned some idiot may actually do something tragic.

36 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:02:40pm

In a few hours Indiana will post the highest Temps on this date in all recorded history...We are about 12 hours away..
There will be no Climate Scientists in the whole world pointing to this stat and trying to prove their point..See..It's a state record..Must be Global warming...
Climate and weather are not the same.. But I swear..If it was 32 degrees in the morning every crackpot would be decrying science and declaring the science flawed....
What a crock.. In 14 hours I understand Indiana will break every High temp in all recorded history..Ahem..In all recorded history..After a horrible Winter of freezing cold.. Record breaking cold..Bone chilling hell on earth...
What do you think? Climate change? I Dunno what do you think?
The extremes are amazing here...

37 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:03:28pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

Yikes.

38 Four More Tears  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:04:16pm

re: #31 Varek Raith

WTF? Let's give this bastard a pet raptor and see how big he is...

I WANT ONE!!

39 Lidane  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:04:24pm

re: #35 pingjockey

Fox isn't policing their websites? I'm disappointed.

Has Fox ever policed their website comments? I'm genuinely curious. Since I don't generally go to their site or read any comments there I have no idea.

40 darthstar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:04:27pm

I was really hoping he was a big Palin fan...but I'll take Ron Paul in a pinch.

41 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:05:05pm

re: #39 Lidane
Me neither. I'm taking a Lizards word at face value.

42 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:05:16pm

re: #30 TampaKnight

If it was just the Paulians it wouldn't be such a problem. Mainstream right wing bloggers like instapundit are deflecting for these people. Dangerous and disgraceful.

43 Four More Tears  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:05:52pm

re: #40 darthstar

I was really hoping he was a big Palin fan...but I'll take Ron Paul in a pinch.

Frankly I was hoping it was an awesome, elaborate April Fool's joke.

44 darthstar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:05:57pm

re: #39 Lidane

Has Fox ever policed their website comments? I'm genuinely curious. Since I don't generally go to their site or read any comments there I have no idea.

Yes...back in 2008, if you said something negative about President Bush, it was deleted rather quickly.

45 darthstar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:06:45pm

re: #43 JasonA

Frankly I was hoping it was an awesome, elaborate April Fool's joke.

That would have been better, I agree. Now it's just an 'isolated incident'

46 freetoken  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:08:49pm

re: #36 HoosierHoops

Entire east of the Rockies in the CONUS should be quite warm tomorrow:

[Link: www.weather.gov...]

The El Nino is slowly fading, but a great deal of energy was transfered from the water to the air. 2009 was the second warmest year on record, and 2010 may beat it.

47 Four More Tears  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:10:23pm

re: #46 freetoken

Entire east of the Rockies in the CONUS should be quite warm tomorrow:

[Link: www.weather.gov...]

The El Nino is slowly fading, but a great deal of energy was transfered from the water to the air. 2009 was the second warmest year on record, and 2010 may beat it.

I always thought I would enjoy living in incredible record-breaking times. Now? Not so much.

48 darthstar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:10:39pm

re: #46 freetoken

Entire east of the Rockies in the CONUS should be quite warm tomorrow:

[Link: www.weather.gov...]

The El Nino is slowly fading, but a great deal of energy was transfered from the water to the air. 2009 was the second warmest year on record, and 2010 may beat it.

Pouring rain here in the coastal mountains of California. Alpine Meadows has gotten 45" of snow the last couple of days...yes, I'm headed up there this weekend! Time for the Big Daddys to come out of the locker for one more big back-country weekend.

49 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:11:20pm

These guys were Ronulans? No really? I am shocked I say shocked.

Youtube Video
50 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:11:52pm

It's been at least 20 minutes:
BUY GOLD!

51 TampaKnight  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:12:23pm

On a completely unrelated note- I got to spend Sunday-Tuesday in Ottawa on work. Man, I love that place!

52 Four More Tears  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:12:49pm

re: #50 pingjockey

It's been at least 20 minutes:
BUY GOLD!

So what happens once all the gold is bought up?

53 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:13:22pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

Ugh ugh ugh.

Dan Harris ABC News Twitter

When I was a teenage werewolf malt shop hooligan, I had a friend who claimed his mother made him and his sister kill their dog as punishment for one thing or another... when they were in kindergarten. I don't know whether I believe it or not, but both mom and sister were batshit insane, and both were mean as hell. The guy was surprisingly only mildly insane. These days he owns his own business (tattoo studio, he's quite talented too) and I have no idea what became of mom and sister.

54 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:14:01pm

re: #53 negativ

When I was a teenage werewolf malt shop hooligan, I had a friend who claimed his mother made him and his sister kill their dog as punishment for one thing or another... when they were in kindergarten. I don't know whether I believe it or not, but both mom and sister were batshit insane, and both were mean as hell. The guy was surprisingly only mildly insane. These days he owns his own business (tattoo studio, he's quite talented too) and I have no idea what became of mom and sister.

Check the attic.

55 freetoken  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:14:11pm

re: #52 JasonA

He who has the most GOLD, WINS!

56 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:14:21pm

re: #46 freetoken

Entire east of the Rockies in the CONUS should be quite warm tomorrow:

[Link: www.weather.gov...]

The El Nino is slowly fading, but a great deal of energy was transfered from the water to the air. 2009 was the second warmest year on record, and 2010 may beat it.

Indiana had a wicked bad winter..So did everybody..Spring started 2 weeks ago..In a few hours we may record the highest temps in all history for this date..
Climate change? Nah..Nothing to see here Bro

57 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:15:56pm

re: #52 JasonA
Profit!

58 ryannon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:15:58pm

re: #36 HoosierHoops

In a few hours Indiana will post the highest Temps on this date in all recorded history...We are about 12 hours away..
There will be no Climate Scientists in the whole world pointing to this stat and trying to prove their point..See..It's a state record..Must be Global warming...
Climate and weather are not the same.. But I swear..If it was 32 degrees in the morning every crackpot would be decrying science and declaring the science flawed...
What a crock.. In 14 hours I understand Indiana will break every High temp in all recorded history..Ahem..In all recorded history..After a horrible Winter of freezing cold.. Record breaking cold..Bone chilling hell on earth...
What do you think? Climate change? I Dunno what do you think?
The extremes are amazing here...

As the more stable thermostatic systems begin to fail, they will be replaced by more chaotic cycles. Extremes such as you're experiencing are the results of increasingly perturbed feedback mechanisms.

59 ~Fianna  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:15:59pm

re: #36 HoosierHoops

In a few hours Indiana will post the highest Temps on this date in all recorded history...We are about 12 hours away..
There will be no Climate Scientists in the whole world pointing to this stat and trying to prove their point..See..It's a state record..Must be Global warming...
Climate and weather are not the same.. But I swear..If it was 32 degrees in the morning every crackpot would be decrying science and declaring the science flawed...
What a crock.. In 14 hours I understand Indiana will break every High temp in all recorded history..Ahem..In all recorded history..After a horrible Winter of freezing cold.. Record breaking cold..Bone chilling hell on earth...
What do you think? Climate change? I Dunno what do you think?
The extremes are amazing here...

In my neck of the woods, it's just the opposite. We've actually had a real spring this year.

And canceled a planned drive to LA for the weekend because they're expecting SNOW in the mountains around Vegas.

I haven't had a birthday snowfall since I left New York.

Dunno what it says about the overall climate, but the weather's just been damn weird this year.

60 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:16:28pm

re: #36 HoosierHoops

In a few hours Indiana will post the highest Temps on this date in all recorded history...We are about 12 hours away..
There will be no Climate Scientists in the whole world pointing to this stat and trying to prove their point..See..It's a state record..Must be Global warming...
Climate and weather are not the same.. But I swear..If it was 32 degrees in the morning every crackpot would be decrying science and declaring the science flawed...
What a crock.. In 14 hours I understand Indiana will break every High temp in all recorded history..Ahem..In all recorded history..After a horrible Winter of freezing cold.. Record breaking cold..Bone chilling hell on earth...
What do you think? Climate change? I Dunno what do you think?
The extremes are amazing here...

Here is something that is a little more about the climate in terms of a long term trend.

[Link: www.giss.nasa.gov...]

2009: Second Warmest Year on Record; End of Warmest Decade

Jan. 21, 2010

2009 was tied for the second warmest year in the modern record, a new NASA analysis of global surface temperature shows. The analysis, conducted by the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New York City, also shows that in the Southern Hemisphere, 2009 was the warmest year since modern records began in 1880.

Although 2008 was the coolest year of the decade, due to strong cooling of the tropical Pacific Ocean, 2009 saw a return to near-record global temperatures. The past year was only a fraction of a degree cooler than 2005, the warmest year on record, and tied with a cluster of other years — 1998, 2002, 2003, 2006 and 2007 1998 and 2007 — as the second warmest year since recordkeeping began.

61 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:17:54pm

re: #55 freetoken

The Ecstasy of Gold

Youtube Video
62 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:17:57pm

The Lower Alabama Spring is a little late this year, but the first asparagus broke through yesterday.

63 jamesfirecat  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:18:35pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

Ugh ugh ugh.

Dan Harris ABC News Twitter

That f***er!

Sorry I have a soft spot for cats....l

64 jamesfirecat  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:22:11pm

re: #52 JasonA

So what happens once all the gold is bought up?

BUY NON HYBRID SEEDS!

65 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:23:33pm

re: #58 ryannon

As the more stable thermostatic systems begin to fail, they will be replaced by more chaotic cycles. Extremes such as you're experiencing are the results of increasingly perturbed feedback mechanisms.

LOL
Good lawd..What does that mean?
I haven't even thought about opening the swimming pool till Late May.. I could get 2nd degree sunburn hanging out on the deck in a few hours..I think we break every record in History in Indiana soon..
Climate change.. Not warming..Everything is changing

66 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:25:05pm

re: #55 freetoken

He who has the most GOLD, WINS!

Mr. Gecko, is that you?

/in honor of the Wall Street sequel

67 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:26:02pm

re: #30 TampaKnight

Could that be a typo for C4 I ? That means something in DoD-speak (Command, Control, Communications, and Information).

68 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:26:06pm

re: #61 Killgore Trout

The Ecstasy of Gold

[Video]

buy low sell high... not really that hard to grasp is it?

69 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:26:13pm

re: #64 jamesfirecat

BUY NON HYBRID SEEDS!


Because this is the future!

Youtube Video
70 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:27:15pm

re: #67 Decatur Deb

PIMF:
And Computers.

71 zora  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:29:00pm

more militia madness with videos...

[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]

72 avanti  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:29:08pm

re: #65 HoosierHoops

LOL
Good lawd..What does that mean?
I haven't even thought about opening the swimming pool till Late May.. I could get 2nd degree sunburn hanging out on the deck in a few hours..I think we break every record in History in Indiana soon..
Climate change.. Not warming..Everything is changing

Climate change guys were predicting more rain on the east coast, and the NE is getting a 100 year storm this week, still not proof.

73 ryannon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:29:47pm

re: #65 HoosierHoops

LOL
Good lawd..What does that mean?
I haven't even thought about opening the swimming pool till Late May.. I could get 2nd degree sunburn hanging out on the deck in a few hours..I think we break every record in History in Indiana soon..
Climate change.. Not warming..Everything is changing

I really don't know. Something I read of the Internet, I guess.

/

74 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:29:49pm

Good evening, LGF.

75 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:30:31pm

re: #74 Spare O'Lake

Good evening, LGF.

Hi, Spare. What's new?

76 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:30:40pm

re: #74 Spare O'Lake

Good evening, LGF.

not a finer showing tonight... but welcome

77 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:31:31pm

re: #58 ryannon

As the more stable thermostatic systems begin to fail, they will be replaced by more chaotic cycles. Extremes such as you're experiencing are the results of increasingly perturbed feedback mechanisms.

Damn that is absolutely correct! I am deeply impressed. Not many here discuss bifurcations as the result of changing a parameter! This is spot on!

78 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:31:42pm

re: #76 brookly red

not a finer showing tonight... but welcome

Someone being poopy?

79 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:32:13pm

re: #74 Spare O'Lake

Good evening back atcha!

80 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:32:19pm

re: #78 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Someone being poopy?

me, and every one else cept I admit it :)

81 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:33:04pm

re: #71 zora

Thanks. Bookmarked.

82 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:34:08pm

re: #65 HoosierHoops

LOL
Good lawd..What does that mean?
I haven't even thought about opening the swimming pool till Late May.. I could get 2nd degree sunburn hanging out on the deck in a few hours..I think we break every record in History in Indiana soon..
Climate change.. Not warming..Everything is changing

It means that with certain systems as you change a parameter, you create more allow for the onset of chaotic behavior. A great example would be changing the Reynolds number in a fluid flow. If you have a low Re flow, then you have laminar flow As you increase Re though, you create turbulence - which is a fully chaotic system.

83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:34:26pm

Saw a new thing tonight. Never seen before. High end cigar bar in Richmond, VA tonight. Two guys in suits got into a fistfight.

Made me happy.

84 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:34:55pm

re: #73 ryannon

I really don't know. Something I read of the Internet, I guess.

/

Crap. Nonetheless, what you quoted was the actual explanation in mathematical terms.

85 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:35:36pm

re: #83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Saw a new thing tonight. Never seen before. High end cigar bar in Richmond, VA tonight. Two guys in suits got into a fistfight.

Made me happy.

Any ladies there? went to one a few months ago in Atlanta. There were almost as many women at the bar smoking cigars as men

86 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:35:54pm
87 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:36:13pm

re: #82 LudwigVanQuixote

PIMF

It means that with certain systems as you change a parameter, you create and allow for the onset of chaotic behavior. A great example would be changing the Reynolds number in a fluid flow. If you have a low Re flow, then you have laminar flow As you increase Re though, you create turbulence - which is a fully chaotic system.

88 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:36:13pm

re: #72 avanti

Climate change guys were predicting more rain on the east coast, and the NE is getting a 100 year storm this week, still not proof.

LOL
Just a couple of week ago there was still about a half inch of snow on the pool cover...April 1st in Indiana is going to be really hot..Sunburn hot..That's a fact.. I'll be burnt in the evening but I'm still not opening the pool yet..
It will probably snow next week

89 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:36:22pm

re: #83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Saw a new thing tonight. Never seen before. High end cigar bar in Richmond, VA tonight. Two guys in suits got into a fistfight.

Made me happy.

kinda says you can dress em up but you can't take em out now don't it.

90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:36:37pm

re: #85 sattv4u2

Any ladies there? went to one a few months ago in Atlanta. There were almost as many women at the bar smoking cigars as men

Nothing turns me on like a woman smoking a cigar. They make me think of Edward G. Robinson.

91 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:36:51pm

From Professor Sherlock at the No Shit Institute for Studies of the Blatantly Obvious:

Autopsy: SeaWorld trainer died of trauma, drowning.

92 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:37:14pm

re: #83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Saw a new thing tonight. Never seen before. High end cigar bar in Richmond, VA tonight. Two guys in suits got into a fistfight.

Made me happy.

How did the fight end?

93 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:37:17pm

OT ,, just got into work. On ESPN 2 the USA is playing mexico in soccer. I thought there was something wrong with our monitors till I realized that stuff on the field, ,, SNOW

Except fot the center and goal box, the entire field is covered

94 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:37:18pm

re: #84 LudwigVanQuixote

I look at it this way. Think long wrench and bolt. if you get some change at the bolt, no big influence. Apply some off angle at the hand end of the long wrench... Now you get trouble.

95 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:37:51pm

re: #83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

LOL! Nice new avatar, veggie!!

96 Firstinla  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:37:51pm

re: #86 MikeySDCA

Thanks. Great thing about LGF is that others make info so convenient. Appeciate that.

97 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:37:59pm

re: #90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Nothing turns me on like a woman smoking a cigar. They make me think of Edward G. Robinson.

You really need to be attracted to prettier women

98 jamesfirecat  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:38:06pm

re: #83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Saw a new thing tonight. Never seen before. High end cigar bar in Richmond, VA tonight. Two guys in suits got into a fistfight.

Made me happy.

"It just tickles me when someone in a fancy hat falls in the mud."

Augustus Sinclair.

99 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:38:15pm

re: #75 Dark_Falcon

Hi, Spare. What's new?

Not much. It galls me to see that CNN is calling the Chechen who claims to have ordered the subway suicide bombings in Russia a "rebel leader", but they forgot to mention that he is a bloody terrorist. I thought that the MSM was over their denial and moral equivocation concerning calling terror what it is.
[Link: www.cnn.com...]

100 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:38:45pm

re: #90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Nothing turns me on like a woman smoking a cigar. They make me think of Edward G. Robinson.

/did you see the rack on that one with the pies?

101 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:39:29pm

re: #76 brookly red

not a finer showing tonight... but welcome

Whassup...some ankle-biting?

102 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:39:32pm

re: #93 sattv4u2

OT ,, just got into work. On ESPN 2 the USA is playing mexico in soccer. I thought there was something wrong with our monitors till I realized that stuff on the field, ,, SNOW

Except fot the center and goal box, the entire field is covered

Holy crap! I just switched over.. I have never seen this before

103 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:40:02pm

re: #92 Dark_Falcon

How did the fight end?

Got broken up before it really got started. I could tell that both of them were very relieved.

"Not in the face!"
-Buddy Bizarre

104 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:40:29pm

re: #102 HoosierHoops

Holy crap! I just switched over.. I have never seen this before

Walking in, I actually asked my co-worker
"Whats wrong with that monitor?"

105 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:40:39pm

re: #95 Floral Giraffe

LOL! Nice new avatar, veggie!!

Funny speaking of suits... that was last July. The last time I was in a suit.

106 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:41:20pm

re: #99 Spare O'Lake

Not much. It galls me to see that CNN is calling the Chechen who claims to have ordered the subway suicide bombings in Russia a "rebel leader", but they forgot to mention that he is a bloody terrorist. I thought that the MSM was over their denial and moral equivocation concerning calling terror what it is.
[Link: www.cnn.com...]

The day it happened, I was driving to work listening to the country station and they called them "separatists." What the hell does that even mean?

107 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:41:30pm

re: #101 Spare O'Lake

Whassup...some ankle-biting?

actually no, just the same mindless partisan bull shit... and people acting as if it was a great revelation...

108 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:41:41pm

re: #105 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Funny speaking of suits... that was last July. The last time I was in a suit.

I plan on being in a suit two more times in my life, and I won't even care about the second one

My sons wedding
My funeral (will be in one for my wifes sake)

109 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:41:44pm

re: #104 sattv4u2

Where in hell are they playing at?

110 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:42:08pm

re: #109 pingjockey

Where in hell are they playing at?

Salt Lake City

111 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:42:22pm

re: #94 Rightwingconspirator

I look at it this way. Think long wrench and bolt. if you get some change at the bolt, no big influence. Apply some off angle at the hand end of the long wrench... Now you get trouble.

You have the idea of the changing parameter being length and then having more torque - and seeing a more pronounced behavior. However that is a linear response.

The point of bifurcations is that you start transitioning to non linear behavior.

Think about the Re example. Under almost all circumstances, honey has a very small Re. You have never seen turbulent honey most likely. Now think of air, or water, which since it has a much lower viscosity, can easily take on a very high Re. You have certainly seen pictures off all sorts of interesting turbulent floes in air.

112 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:43:20pm

re: #108 sattv4u2

I am required by work to wear a shirt and tie. I show up at a customer's house in jeans and a polo shirt.

113 ryannon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:43:45pm

re: #77 LudwigVanQuixote

Damn that is absolutely correct! I am deeply impressed. Not many here discuss bifurcations as the result of changing a parameter! This is spot on!

Thanks, Ludwig, coming from you, that's a real compliment. I got interested in this twenty years ago, and like you, have been preaching in the desert for a decade. I don't even expect people to understand what I say, so I'm rarely disappointed :-)

114 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:44:51pm

re: #113 ryannon

Am I going to have to post the Steve Martin plumbers joke and roger the thread like I did yesterday?

115 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:44:59pm

Once again, reposted for truth (and because Ludwig is here, and I want to see what he says):

For the record, I am firmly opposed to people who oppose offshore drilling in US waters.

What we do now is, we let all the other places with offshore oil deposits drill their asses off, with all the concomitant ecological damage, while the Prius drivers here at home get to do both: suck up the gas and enjoy pristine shorelines. (And pretend their cars are ecologically clean.)

If we were anything less than abject hypocrites, we'd drill the shit out of the Chesapeake Bay and people would see up close and personal the injuries we inflict on other people's environments.

That, in my view, would do more than all the abstract altruism in the world to get people to rethink their habits.

But the general rule of thumb for Western nations is "not in my backyard". Dump all the shit on the brown people and enjoy the fruits without let, hindrance, or bad conscience.

And my targets here are not the ordinary Americans who couldn't give a wet fart about where their gas comes from, but the oh-so-concerned eco-drivers who couldn't give a flying doughnut about any of it unless a baby seal dies in Alaska.

Drill that shit!

116 Gus  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:45:22pm

re: #99 Spare O'Lake

Not much. It galls me to see that CNN is calling the Chechen who claims to have ordered the subway suicide bombings in Russia a "rebel leader", but they forgot to mention that he is a bloody terrorist. I thought that the MSM was over their denial and moral equivocation concerning calling terror what it is.
[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Russians Storm Theater; Kill Chechen Rebel Leader
October 26, 2002

MOSCOW — Russian special forces have the Moscow hostage situation under control, after storming the theater where Chechen rebels held hundreds of hostages. Officials report that the Russians killed the Chechen rebel leader.

Chechen Rebel Leader Says He Ordered Moscow Bombings

The Chechen leader of the Islamist "Emirate of the Caucasus" Doku Umarov, (aka Dokka Abu Usman) has claimed responsibility for this week's Moscow metro bombings that killed 39, The Kavkav Centre, a Chechen internet site, said Wednesday.

All from Fox News.

Latest Fox News report doesn't use the word terror or terrorist.

I guess this makes Fox News part of the MSM.

117 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:45:27pm

re: #99 Spare O'Lake

Not much. It galls me to see that CNN is calling the Chechen who claims to have ordered the subway suicide bombings in Russia a "rebel leader", but they forgot to mention that he is a bloody terrorist. I thought that the MSM was over their denial and moral equivocation concerning calling terror what it is.
[Link: www.cnn.com...]

CNN still does not get it. The Islamists are not simply "rebels", they want to rule the world.

118 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:45:34pm

re: #111 LudwigVanQuixote

Now I get Re. Thanks.

119 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:46:12pm

re: #108 sattv4u2

I plan on being in a suit two more times in my life, and I won't even care about the second one

My sons wedding
My funeral (will be in one for my wifes sake)

I only put on a suit when I want/need something. It is sad but some people actually believe it gives you credibility...

120 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:46:16pm

re: #104 sattv4u2

Walking in, I actually asked my co-worker
"Whats wrong with that monitor?"

It's freaking snowing during a soccer match..
Unreal
You know why soccer hasn't taken off in America? There are no commercials at all...90 minutes..Not one commercial.. period..
Look if Madison ave. had a shot at selling beer every 12 minutes on TV everything changes..Hello Soccer! Time outs! Beer ads! Get a fricking clue..

121 ryannon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:46:40pm

re: #114 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Am I going to have to post the Steve Martin plumbers joke and roger the thread like I did yesterday?

Post anything you like: once again, I'm rarely disappointed!

(Smooch)

122 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:46:51pm

re: #112 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am required by work to wear a shirt and tie bow tie and teasing cuffs. I show up at a customer's house in jeans and a polo shirt.

I wonder how the Chippedales' customers respond to that...!?

123 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:47:01pm

re: #112 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am required by work to wear a shirt and tie. I show up at a customer's house in jeans and a polo shirt.

When I was back in Boston for this company doing more admin and customer service work, we had to wear dress shirt and tie. Made no sense to me as we didn't get 'walk ins". Anyone that did come in we knew about days in advance. My bosses rational was that if we dressed 'professional' we would act pro on the phone
My retort was "how about if we're dressed uncomfortable"??

Needless to say, he rubber stamped my transfer to Atlanta, where jjeans, t- or polo shirts are not just okay, but preferred (never know when I have to climb up into an 11 meter satellite dish to change out some electronics)

124 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:47:07pm

'Nite, all.re: #119 brookly red

I only put on a suit when I want/need something. It is sad but some people actually believe it gives you credibility...

Looks good at arraignment.

125 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:47:59pm

re: #116 Gus 802

All from Fox News.

Latest Fox News report doesn't use the word terror or terrorist.

I guess this makes Fox News part of the MSM.

The old hatred of the Russians peeks out. Our strategic opponents.

126 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:48:33pm

re: #120 HoosierHoops

You know why soccer hasn't taken off in America?

Maybe because it sucks?

127 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:48:41pm

re: #106 marjoriemoon

The day it happened, I was driving to work listening to the country station and they called them "separatists." What the hell does that even mean?

I think it means that the Chechens wish to secede from Russia, and that CNN thinks that somehow entitles them not to be called out for employing terrorist tactics.

128 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:49:13pm

re: #126 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Maybe because it sucks?

Shhhh ,,,,,, could be my sons payment plan for college!!

129 Firstinla  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:49:41pm

On retiring I donated all my suits and ties to the local Goodwill. If an invite says "formal" I say "Thanks, but I'm busy."

130 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:49:59pm

re: #128 sattv4u2

Shhh ,,, could be my sons payment plan for college!!

In the absence of brains, footwork will do, eh?

131 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:50:21pm

re: #127 Spare O'Lake

Like the Palestinians. Plus a tacit welcome for troubles for our enemies real or perceived. Circumstantial ethics suck. Terrorism is terrorism anywhere.

132 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:50:32pm

re: #122 Cato the Elder

I wonder how the Chippedales' customers respond to that...!?

I am the Chris Farley to your Patrick Swayze.

133 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:50:47pm

re: #115 Cato the Elder

Once again, reposted for truth (and because Ludwig is here, and I want to see what he says):

For the record, I am firmly opposed to people who oppose offshore drilling in US waters.

What we do now is, we let all the other places with offshore oil deposits drill their asses off, with all the concomitant ecological damage, while the Prius drivers here at home get to do both: suck up the gas and enjoy pristine shorelines. (And pretend their cars are ecologically clean.)

If we were anything less than abject hypocrites, we'd drill the shit out of the Chesapeake Bay and people would see up close and personal the injuries we inflict on other people's environments.

That, in my view, would do more than all the abstract altruism in the world to get people to rethink their habits.

But the general rule of thumb for Western nations is "not in my backyard". Dump all the shit on the brown people and enjoy the fruits without let, hindrance, or bad conscience.

And my targets here are not the ordinary Americans who couldn't give a wet fart about where their gas comes from, but the oh-so-concerned eco-drivers who couldn't give a flying doughnut about any of it unless a baby seal dies in Alaska.

Drill that shit!

Oh dear lord. I was just going to step away.

Cato if the gist of your post is to excoriate the hypocrisy of so called greens who really don't have a clue about anything and less moral fiber - I can only agree.

If the purpose is to make an economic argument, it is completely flawed, because as you should well know, there is absolutely no US only oil market. The overall effect of drilling in economic terms is that as the world demand grows in leaps and bounds, that oil will get sold everywhere and have essentially no effect on the prices you pay.

This is actually one of the biggest lies of the GOP. They argue that somehow this drilling will be good for the average American. It is a bald faced lie. I am very shocked that you fell for it.

However, that oil will get burned. That will absolutely contribute to an ever expanding problem with AGW and push us absolutely closer to a point of no return. The CO2 that will be un sequestered from that drilling will stay up for centuries. The only way to stop that is to produce energy some other way.

A much better solution would be to keep the environmental protections in place and then encourage the energy companies to invest in viable forms of future energy.

134 Gus  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:51:18pm

re: #125 Rightwingconspirator

The old hatred of the Russians peeks out. Our strategic opponents.

For the most part. Although the news media really doesn't put much thought to some things. Once it comes out as "rebel leader" from the AP or other wire services they'll generally stick to that.

135 darthstar  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:51:56pm

re: #120 HoosierHoops

It's freaking snowing during a soccer match..
Unreal
You know why soccer hasn't taken off in America? There are no commercials at all...90 minutes..Not one commercial.. period..
Look if Madison ave. had a shot at selling beer every 12 minutes on TV everything changes..Hello Soccer! Time outs! Beer ads! Get a fricking clue..

Only wimps need time-outs for beer commercials so their players can rest.

136 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:52:11pm

re: #127 Spare O'Lake

I think it means that the Chechens wish to secede from Russia, and that CNN thinks that somehow entitles them not to be called out for employing terrorist tactics.

I went to CNN online and they had a video of an interview with a Russian official. The translator had a British accent and referred to the bomber(s) as "terrorist", but yes, it wasn't in print.

I know very little about Chechnya or Bosnia. I have a hard enough time understanding Israel.

137 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:52:30pm

re: #133 LudwigVanQuixote

Hey! Did you see the article the other day where the guy said we were too stupid to stop global warming? I'd look it up again, but I'm lazy.

I opined that it might've been written by you.

138 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:52:43pm

re: #130 Cato the Elder

In the absence of brains, footwork will do, eh?

For payment, yes

For entrance (Georgia Tech) , not so much

139 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:53:18pm

re: #137 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey! Did you see the article the other day where the guy said we were too stupid to stop global warming? I'd look it up again, but I'm lazy.

I opined that it might've been written by you.

Prolly not. I still have hope that we will stop being stupid and take action.

140 freetoken  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:53:33pm

re: #137 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It's been linked here several times, if you mean the piece by Mr. Gaia.

141 Lidane  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:53:57pm

re: #15 Firstinla

And Ron Paul is just an asshole.

But is he as big of an asshole as Bill Donohue? That's what I want to know.

142 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:54:37pm

re: #107 brookly red

actually no, just the same mindless partisan bull shit... and people acting as if it was a great revelation...

Oh that...well then you should enjoy this.

143 freetoken  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:54:41pm

re: #137 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

As posted in the spinoffs.

144 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:54:44pm

re: #124 Decatur Deb

'Nite, all.

Looks good at arraignment.

for those stupid enough to get arraigned ...

145 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:54:55pm

Between work and my sons involvement, i've seen many a soccer match

That stated, this is the very 1sdt time I've heard

',,,takes a shot, and it's blocked by a snow bank"

146 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:55:15pm

I've got to get going soon. I'll be back tomorrow, though probably not till the evening.

147 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:55:21pm

"G.O.P" and "Republican Party" are not in the O.P..

148 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:55:36pm

re: #142 Spare O'Lake

Oh that...well then you should enjoy this.

not bad at all...

149 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:56:02pm

re: #129 Firstinla

LOL! I did the same thing! Friends want to go to dinner somewhere fancy & I warn the, I'm a white shirt & blue jeans kinda person now!

150 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:56:10pm

re: #115 Cato the Elder

Once again, reposted for truth (and because Ludwig is here, and I want to see what he says):

For the record, I am firmly opposed to people who oppose offshore drilling in US waters.

What we do now is, we let all the other places with offshore oil deposits drill their asses off, with all the concomitant ecological damage, while the Prius drivers here at home get to do both: suck up the gas and enjoy pristine shorelines. (And pretend their cars are ecologically clean.)

If we were anything less than abject hypocrites, we'd drill the shit out of the Chesapeake Bay and people would see up close and personal the injuries we inflict on other people's environments.

That, in my view, would do more than all the abstract altruism in the world to get people to rethink their habits.

But the general rule of thumb for Western nations is "not in my backyard". Dump all the shit on the brown people and enjoy the fruits without let, hindrance, or bad conscience.

And my targets here are not the ordinary Americans who couldn't give a wet fart about where their gas comes from, but the oh-so-concerned eco-drivers who couldn't give a flying doughnut about any of it unless a baby seal dies in Alaska.

Drill that shit!

Actually after re reading that post I realize that my first take on what you wrote was the correct one.

Indeed America is guilty of the worst hypocrisy and indeed if we don't change we will certainly have it coming to us morally as well as scientifically.

151 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:56:35pm

re: #135 darthstar

Only wimps need time-outs for beer commercials so their players can rest.

LOL
Hey you
Without lots of beer Commercials baseball wouldn't even exist on TV..
OH .USA Just won in a blizzard playing soccer.. Who knew? Maybe the team was from Utah..
Congrads USA!

152 freetoken  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:56:53pm

re: #137 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Not that it is not worth discussing, but I think many of us (whether doomer or not) would agree that Lovelock is just being an old man in search of a few more minutes of fame.

153 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:57:37pm

re: #146 Dark_Falcon

Good luck on the job hunting front!
XXX (Fingers & toes crossed for you!)

154 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:57:59pm

re: #130 Cato the Elder

In the absence of brains, footwork will do, eh?


((and I'll let slide the slam on my son, who has been for the second year in a row named to the National Honor Society))

155 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 7:57:59pm

re: #139 LudwigVanQuixote

Seen this?

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Professor James Lovelock, the scientist who developed Gaia theory, has said it is too late to try and save the planet.

The man who achieved global fame for his theory that the whole earth is a single organism now believes that we can only hope that the earth will take care of itself in the face of completely unpredictable climate change.

156 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:00:10pm

I really don't suggest you guys rent "2012".

(Although I really love end-of-the-world movies.)

157 Firstinla  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:00:38pm

Damn: now I have look up Bill Donohue AND Gaia theory. But thanks for the leads.

158 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:00:39pm

re: #155 Rightwingconspirator

Seen this?

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Professor James Lovelock, the scientist who developed Gaia theory, has said it is too late to try and save the planet.

The man who achieved global fame for his theory that the whole earth is a single organism now believes that we can only hope that the earth will take care of itself in the face of completely unpredictable climate change.

LOL....the Earth has been doing that for millions of years.

Evening lizards!

159 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:01:51pm

re: #158 NJDhockeyfan

LOL...the Earth has been doing that for millions of years.

Evening lizards!

'Sup?

160 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:02:00pm

re: #155 Rightwingconspirator

Seen this?

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Professor James Lovelock, the scientist who developed Gaia theory, has said it is too late to try and save the planet.

The man who achieved global fame for his theory that the whole earth is a single organism now believes that we can only hope that the earth will take care of itself in the face of completely unpredictable climate change.

the earth is a conservative, she will do what it takes & not whine for assistance... that may not be pleasant but it is what it is.

161 albusteve  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:02:01pm

the richest nation in the history of the world, drives itself into abject, self destructive debt with entitlements and runaway govt spending...and someone actually believes that the American people can help to save the planet with curly lightbulbs and squeezing a few more MPG out of gas?....so who's on first?

162 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:02:10pm

re: #156 marjoriemoon

I really don't suggest you guys rent "2012".

(Although I really love end-of-the-world movies.)

If that son of a bitch out-ran one more earthquake I was going to fucking SCREAM!

SHOUTED AT THE SCREEN... C'MON MAYANS! SWALLOW HIM UP ALREADY!

163 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:02:14pm

re: #158 NJDhockeyfan

Yeah, most of the time without large mammals in charge. Whose up next?

164 ryannon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:02:44pm

re: #158 NJDhockeyfan

LOL...the Earth has been doing that for millions of years.

Evening lizards!

And will continue to do so. Which doesn't mean that our ongoing survival as a species is part of the plan.

165 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:02:54pm

re: #155 Rightwingconspirator
Guess he didn't see the episode on the Discover/History/NatGeo, don't remember which. About the little wobble in earths orbit. In 10k years we'll be tilted back from the sun and will be in another ice age. We may off ourselves, a lot of species, but we're not going to kill the planet.

166 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:03:09pm

re: #155 Rightwingconspirator

Seen this?

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Professor James Lovelock, the scientist who developed Gaia theory, has said it is too late to try and save the planet.

The man who achieved global fame for his theory that the whole earth is a single organism now believes that we can only hope that the earth will take care of itself in the face of completely unpredictable climate change.

NO I hadn't seen this. I think he is too pessimistic and that there is still time to avert the worst effects.

However, that time is running out right now as we speak.

If we do cross the major tipping points, the effects are utterly catastrophic for us and the language f the article is all wrong.

Yes, in the long run, the Earth will shift to a new equilibrium.

Most humans will not survive the transition. There really won't be a way to adapt quickly enough.

I don't believe we will go extinct as a species. However civilization as we know it will collapse completely and there will be billions of deaths. I am not at all prepared to speculate on how far back the survivors will be knocked in terms of civilization.

167 van helsing  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:03:13pm

re: #156 marjoriemoon

I really don't suggest you guys rent "2012".

(Although I really love end-of-the-world movies.)

I liked the map at the end that had the Horn of Africa and the Arabian peninsula under water.

I'm easily amused.

168 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:03:43pm

re: #159 MandyManners

'Sup?

{Mandy}

169 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:05:04pm

re: #165 pingjockey

Guess he didn't see the episode on the Discover/History/NatGeo, don't remember which. About the little wobble in earths orbit. In 10k years we'll be tilted back from the sun and will be in another ice age. We may off ourselves, a lot of species, but we're not going to kill the planet.

Yes we are.

170 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:05:17pm

re: #83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Saw a new thing tonight. Never seen before. High end cigar bar in Richmond, VA tonight. Two guys in suits got into a fistfight.

Made me happy.

was it an orderly challenge or more of a brawl? :D

171 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:05:21pm

re: #168 NJDhockeyfan

Dude.

I want contact but, my ISP won't allow it.

172 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:05:49pm

re: #115 Cato the Elder

Canadians are not fairly caricatured as "brown people" but we are America's largest foreign oil and gas supplier. Other than that, I agree with your comment.

173 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:05:53pm

re: #161 albusteve

the richest nation in the history of the world, drives itself into abject, self destructive debt with entitlements and runaway govt spending...and someone actually believes that the American people can help to save the planet with curly lightbulbs and squeezing a few more MPG out of gas?...so who's on first?

Thanks for completely twisting what I said into something ridiculous and not at all what was said. Really great Stevo. You are back on the fuck you list again. Congrats!

174 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:06:02pm

re: #166 LudwigVanQuixote

I think that knowledge will move forward, and we will quickly adapt.

175 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:06:36pm

re: #165 pingjockey

Guess he didn't see the episode on the Discover/History/NatGeo, don't remember which. About the little wobble in earths orbit. In 10k years we'll be tilted back from the sun and will be in another ice age. We may off ourselves, a lot of species, but we're not going to kill the planet.

Bingo! the planet may kill us... and some say that is a good thing, but we will not kill the planet.

176 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:07:09pm

re: #169 Walter L. Newton
We are? I wasn't let in on this evil Zionist plot. I'm a member in good standing(usually) with evil Zionist conspiracies. Damn. Wonder if my membership lapsed?

177 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:07:22pm

re: #162 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

If that son of a bitch out-ran one more earthquake I was going to fucking SCREAM!

SHOUTED AT THE SCREEN... C'MON MAYANS! SWALLOW HIM UP ALREADY!

heheh it was cheesy, but I do like the special effects.

Danny Glover, yeesh. My husband kept asking, "Why does he always whisper?" - What was that again, Dan?

John Cusak is very cool.

178 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:07:35pm

re: #174 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I think that knowledge will move forward, and we will quickly adapt.

That's great. No one in the scientific community - you know those of us who would come up with that knowledge seem to think so.

How exactly do you propose to produce enough food and clean water for everyone in such an environment?

We certainly don't know how or have any technology even on the horizon to do so.

179 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:08:24pm

re: #170 WindUpBird

was it an orderly challenge or more of a brawl? :D

A 6'7", 270lb black man (also in a suit) got between the two middle age white guys... they relented pretty quickly.

I was hoping for more.... but alas... the gentle giant put a quick end to the melee.

180 albusteve  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:08:30pm

re: #173 LudwigVanQuixote

Thanks for completely twisting what I said into something ridiculous and not at all what was said. Really great Stevo. You are back on the fuck you list again. Congrats!

what's twisted?....why are you so sassy and why would I care about your list?

181 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:08:54pm

re: #178 LudwigVanQuixote

That's great. No one in the scientific community - you know those of us who would come up with that knowledge seem to think so.

How exactly do you propose to produce enough food and clean water for everyone in such an environment?

We certainly don't know how or have any technology even on the horizon to do so.

And this pessimism is not going to look good on your performance review...

///////////

182 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:09:03pm

re: #167 van helsing

I liked the map at the end that had the Horn of Africa and the Arabian peninsula under water.

I'm easily amused.

The South Pole was somewhere around Wisconsin!

The remake of the War of the Worlds is perfect for some MST3K action.

183 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:09:13pm

re: #170 WindUpBird

was it an orderly challenge or more of a brawl? :D

tip: grab his tie and pull him off balance ... then work his face.

184 Firstinla  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:09:29pm

The survivors wll adapt and evolve. And the cycle will be repeated.

185 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:09:36pm

re: #179 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

A 6'7", 270lb black man (also in a suit) got between the two middle age white guys... they relented pretty quickly.

I was hoping for more... but alas... the gentle giant put a quick end to the melee.

That's pretty impressive. I only ever see fistfights at concerts, and nobody really wants to stop a fistfight at a concert...

186 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:09:39pm

re: #182 marjoriemoon
upding for MST3K!!

187 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:10:12pm

re: #116 Gus 802

All from Fox News.

Latest Fox News report doesn't use the word terror or terrorist.

I guess this makes Fox News part of the MSM.

Why thank you for pointing that out. Yes...yes it is.

188 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:10:13pm

re: #185 WindUpBird

That's pretty impressive. I only ever see fistfights at concerts, and nobody really wants to stop a fistfight at a concert...

especially if it's synchronized.

189 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:10:40pm

re: #183 brookly red
Nah, ya grab his suit coat and pull it down over his elbows and Bingo, instant punching bag.

190 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:10:42pm

re: #186 Querent

upding for MST3K!!

There can never be enough of TV's Frank


NEVER

191 albusteve  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:10:42pm

re: #184 Firstinla

The survivors wll adapt and evolve. And the cycle will be repeated.

yes, of course it will....if we are doomed, might as well party like it's what?...1968?

192 Gus  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:10:45pm

re: #187 Spare O'Lake

Why thank you for pointing that out. Yes...yes it is.

Just wanted to point out that it wasn't exclusive to CNN.

193 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:10:52pm

re: #184 Firstinla

The survivors wll adapt and evolve. And the cycle will be repeated.

that is the militia way....

194 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:11:05pm

re: #181 Querent

And this pessimism is not going to look good on your performance review...

///

You should here my assessment of faster than light travel in the near future as well!

195 ryannon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:11:05pm

re: #173 LudwigVanQuixote

Thanks for completely twisting what I said into something ridiculous and not at all what was said. Really great Stevo. You are back on the fuck you list again. Congrats!

I don't know what's been going on between you two guys previously, but I did not get the impression that our New Mexican friend was addressing his comments to anything you said. For me, it was more in the sense of ridiculizing half-assed solutions rather than addressing root causes.

But then, Steve loves being an asshole, so I may be wrong.

196 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:11:15pm

re: #189 pingjockey

Nah, ya grab his suit coat and pull it down over his elbows and Bingo, instant punching bag.

Is that the fortune 500 version of hockey players pulling the jersey over the head?

197 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:11:19pm

re: #184 Firstinla

The survivors wll adapt and evolve. And the cycle will be repeated.

What survivors... haven't you been listening... billions and billion are going to die... there will be barely no one left to evolve into anything but mindless savages trying to eke out an existence.

198 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:11:51pm

re: #194 LudwigVanQuixote
i'm game... and i've got nothing else planned for this evening...

199 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:12:22pm

re: #196 WindUpBird

Yup. Saw it in a movie, never in real life.

200 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:12:25pm

re: #189 pingjockey

Nah, ya grab his suit coat and pull it down over his elbows and Bingo, instant punching bag.

most take their coats off inside...

201 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:12:30pm

re: #166 LudwigVanQuixote

Just with the free speculating spirit of a SciFi fan-My wild guess is we lose far more people than raw technological ability. And higher technologies retreat to the best adapted "lucky" survivors. Steam, animal and simple electric tech survives. Circa 1930. At least. Just maybe circa 1960.

202 albusteve  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:12:32pm

re: #197 Walter L. Newton

What survivors... haven't you been listening... billions and billion are going to die... there will be barely no one left to evolve into anything but mindless savages trying to eke out an existence.

then I'll fit in nicely

203 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:13:07pm

re: #178 LudwigVanQuixote

You do not think that mankind is able to adapt?... we've got people living on ice floes and in giant deserts. In tropic rainforests and on the Himalayas. Man lives in cities and in the country.

Man only does not live underwater and in Antarctica... have some faith man.

Try to fix it if we can, but we are a very resilient and adaptive species.

204 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:13:08pm

re: #192 Gus 802

Just wanted to point out that it wasn't exclusive to CNN.

remember the "homicide bomber" thing? Homicide bomber! As opposed to bombers that let loose charges filled with fortune cookie fortunes and daffodils.

205 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:13:09pm

re: #200 brookly red
Oops.

206 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:13:37pm

re: #197 Walter L. Newton

What survivors... haven't you been listening... billions and billion are going to die... there will be barely no one left to evolve into anything but mindless savages trying to eke out an existence.

Sounds like the people in my corporate office in Broomfield!

207 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:13:37pm

re: #199 pingjockey

Yup. Saw it in a movie, never in real life.

I've seen it in crappy junior league games!

208 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:13:44pm

re: #201 Rightwingconspirator

Just with the free speculating spirit of a SciFi fan-My wild guess is we lose far more people than raw technological ability. And higher technologies retreat to the best adapted "lucky" survivors. Steam, animal and simple electric tech survives. Circa 1930. At least. Just maybe circa 1960.

i will not mention either comment #17 OR any books by Graham Hancock.

Lizards' Honor!

209 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:14:06pm

re: #194 LudwigVanQuixote

Really? I missed that post of yours.

210 ryannon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:14:28pm

re: #195 ryannon

Correction: Steve Steve loves being playing the role of an asshole....

211 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:14:32pm

re: #207 WindUpBird
The hockey yes, not the suit coats!

212 ~Fianna  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:14:45pm

re: #157 Firstinla

Damn: now I have look up Bill Donohue AND Gaia theory. But thanks for the leads.

Before you look up Donohue, grab the ick-proof suit and a barf bag.

213 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:14:48pm

re: #208 Querent

i will not mention either comment #17 OR any books by Graham Hancock.

Lizards' Honor!


Pffttt... yer old :p

214 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:14:54pm

re: #205 pingjockey

Oops.

hey jumping them in the parking lot has it's advantages too... no bouncers.

215 albusteve  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:15:15pm

re: #210 ryannon

Correction: Steve Steve loves being playing the role of an asshole...

don't ever call me Steve Steve

216 ryannon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:15:20pm

re: #203 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You do not think that mankind is able to adapt?... we've got people living on ice floes and in giant deserts. In tropic rainforests and on the Himalayas. Man lives in cities and in the country.

Man only does not live underwater and in Antarctica... have some faith man.

Try to fix it if we can, but we are a very resilient and adaptive species.

And we invented pie.

217 Gus  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:15:50pm

re: #204 WindUpBird

remember the "homicide bomber" thing? Homicide bomber! As opposed to bombers that let loose charges filled with fortune cookie fortunes and daffodils.

I don't remember that. What was that all about?

Funny, I just found this over at Fox News:

Twin Homicide Blasts Kill 12 in Russia's South

But! And this is important. That's an AP story. Like I said before. They follow the wire services.

218 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:15:54pm

re: #213 marjoriemoon

Pffttt... yer old :p


yep, i am. And it's amazing to see who's still on here among my scaly elders.

219 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:16:06pm

re: #180 albusteve

what's twisted?...why are you so sassy and why would I care about your list?

As if you weren't referring to my earlier post. Great Stevo great.

OK for the record so you get it totally straight.

I think you are completely wrong and morally deficient for ever being able to justify the United States torturing prisoners in the way that we did.

The pathetic justifications you gave for it are exactly like the ones the Norks would give.

I will never apologize to you for pointing out that simple truth.

I further think you have had a hissy fit now for months over it.

I will happily let it go if you will.

I even, as a result of your good news about your new grandchild refrained mightily from shooting back at you. So here is your choice oh mountain man of mystery. Let it go, and accept that I will never think you are right about that and in fact even question your morality because of it, or you can continue to play hissy fits with me. Your call.

220 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:16:10pm

re: #214 brookly red
Haha! I did see one squid pull a guys dress blue jumper over his head and whack the hell out of him.

221 ryannon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:16:14pm

re: #215 albusteve

don't ever call me Steve Steve

Do you prefer asshole?

/

222 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:16:16pm

re: #117 Dark_Falcon

CNN still does not get it. The Islamists are not simply "rebels", they want to rule the world.

Haven't you received the memo yet?
NOTHING HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM!

223 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:16:29pm

re: #194 LudwigVanQuixote

You should hear my assessment of faster than light travel in the near future as well!

PIMF

224 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:16:31pm

re: #218 Querent

yep, i am. And it's amazing to see who's still on here among my scaly elders.

And who's not!

225 Firstinla  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:16:31pm

re: #212 ~Fianna

Thanks for the alert. There is some knowledge I can live without so I won't bother with these two.

226 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:17:18pm

re: #220 pingjockey

Haha! I did see one squid pull a guys dress blue jumper over his head and whack the hell out of him.

no you did not. I was not there & it never happened. got it?

227 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:17:24pm

re: #221 ryannon

Do you prefer asshole?

/

as long as it's not asshole asshole!

228 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:17:45pm

re: #133 LudwigVanQuixote

Cato if the gist of your post is to excoriate the hypocrisy of so called greens who really don't have a clue about anything and less moral fiber - I can only agree.

Well, there's one thing we can agree on. Oh, the stories I could tell you about my so-called "green" friends!

If the purpose is to make an economic argument, it is completely flawed, because as you should well know, there is absolutely no US only oil market.

Of course not. Oil is entirely fungible, like money.

This is actually one of the biggest lies of the GOP. They argue that somehow this drilling will be good for the average American. It is a bald faced lie. I am very shocked that you fell for it.

I didn't fall for it. All I know is the indisputable fact that we now ruin other people's ecologies for our own convenience, while we prohibit oil discovery, drilling and exploitation so those of us who live on pretty coasts won't be upset.

However, that oil will get burned. That will absolutely contribute to an ever expanding problem with AGW and push us absolutely closer to a point of no return. The CO2 that will be un sequestered from that drilling will stay up for centuries. The only way to stop that is to produce energy some other way.

So go ahead and tell us how to produce it some other economically viable way. Otherwise, that oil and any other oil up to and including oil in your back yard will get burned.

A much better solution would be to keep the environmental protections in place and then encourage the energy companies to invest in viable forms of future energy.

Hah! And again I say Hahahahahahahahahahahahhaha!

229 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:17:50pm

re: #226 brookly red
Right!

230 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:18:11pm

re: #197 Walter L. Newton

What survivors... haven't you been listening... billions and billion are going to die... there will be barely no one left to evolve into anything but mindless savages trying to eke out an existence.

Yes that is actually almost correct. Now if you take the time to read the paper I linked to in this thread and understand it, you will know why, and not think you are being so funny.

231 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:18:13pm

re: #217 Gus 802

I don't remember that. What was that all about?

Funny, I just found this over at Fox News:

Twin Homicide Blasts Kill 12 in Russia's South

But! And this is important. That's an AP story. Like I said before. They follow the wire services.

IIRC it was an attempt by the Bush administration to bring home the idea that suicide bombers aren't just killing themselves. But the resulting language just sounded silly.

232 albusteve  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:18:28pm

re: #219 LudwigVanQuixote

As if you weren't referring to my earlier post. Great Stevo great.

OK for the record so you get it totally straight.

I think you are completely wrong and morally deficient for ever being able to justify the United States torturing prisoners in the way that we did.

The pathetic justifications you gave for it are exactly like the ones the Norks would give.

I will never apologize to you for pointing out that simple truth.

I further think you have had a hissy fit now for months over it.

I will happily let it go if you will.

I even, as a result of your good news about your new grandchild refrained mightily from shooting back at you. So here is your choice oh mountain man of mystery. Let it go, and accept that I will never think you are right about that and in fact even question your morality because of it, or you can continue to play hissy fits with me. Your call.

I allowed you to apologize for your own good....otherwise I could care less, for reasons like making up hissy fit excuses...untrue

233 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:19:13pm

My daughter's computer is infected by the Control Center virus and her credit card has been compromised. All the google links on "uninstall control center" link to other downloads. She's having a meltdown. Any suggestions?

234 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:19:21pm

re: #216 ryannon

And we invented pie.

Well... pie is good.

235 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:19:22pm

re: #222 Spare O'Lake

Haven't you received the memo yet?
NOTHING HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM!

Chechnya is a lot more complex than just TEH IZZZZLAAAAMMMM

Just saying. Serious business. lots of history. Lots of dead civilians.

236 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:19:46pm

re: #173 LudwigVanQuixote

Thanks for completely twisting what I said into something ridiculous and not at all what was said. Really great Stevo. You are back on the fuck you list again. Congrats!

Isn't that what Charlton Heston shouted from Mr. Sinai just before he threw down the tablets?

237 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:19:48pm

re: #230 LudwigVanQuixote

Yes that is actually almost correct. Now if you take the time to read the paper I linked to in this thread and understand it, you will know why, and not think you are being so funny.

Ludwig... I'm not trying to be funny...

238 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:19:48pm

re: #194 LudwigVanQuixote

You should here my assessment of faster than light travel in the near future as well!

so exactly where are you planning to go ? (and please don't let me stop you)

239 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:20:15pm

re: #235 WindUpBird

Lots of sad.

240 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:20:21pm

re: #233 Alouette

My daughter's computer is infected by the Control Center virus and her credit card has been compromised. All the google links on "uninstall control center" link to other downloads. She's having a meltdown. Any suggestions?

cancel the card, buy a new computer, and shoot the old one full of holes in the back 40?

241 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:20:26pm

re: #228 Cato the Elder

Cato, I realized after re reading that post that you were mostly bitching about hypocrisy amongst the greens and expressing the desire that some judgement comes to them. The problem is that it comes to everyone else as well and the brown people that we both defend get hit first.

As to viable alternative energy sources.

Really honestly,
Nuclear, Solar, Wind and smart grids will do it!

242 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:21:05pm

re: #232 albusteve

I allowed you to apologize for your own good...otherwise I could care less, for reasons like making up hissy fit excuses...untrue

Fine so stay in the asshole category and prove you really don't care by no longer feeling the need to snipe at every post I make.

243 Gus  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:21:13pm

re: #231 WindUpBird

IIRC it was an attempt by the Bush administration to bring home the idea that suicide bombers aren't just killing themselves. But the resulting language just sounded silly.

OK, thanks. Here's something I just found:

Press Briefing by Ari Fleischer
James S. Brady Press Briefing Room
Bush White House Archives
May 28, 2003

Q -- better treatment. Can you go through a couple of firm steps that you'd like to see from the Palestinians --

MR. FLEISCHER: Well, the most important is the crackdown on terror. Clearly, in an atmosphere of violence and killing, it is much harder to reach peace agreements when people are dying on a regular basis as a result of homicide bombers. And the homicide bombers represent a direct threat to the Palestinian people, as well. These are extremists who do not have the cause of the Palestinian people at heart. And that is always a central issue with this President, to make sure that Israel has the protections it needs so Israeli people can live a life in freedom and security without having to worry about being killed simply because they're sitting in a cafe or riding on a bus. And that is a crucial issue that is very important for the Palestinian leaders to focus on. And the President believes they will.

244 ryannon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:21:29pm

re: #234 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well... pie is good.

You may not believe this, but I've always thought that myself.

Gosh, LGF has some great members!

245 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:21:36pm

re: #239 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Lots of sad.

And it doesn't seem like it'll ever end!

246 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:21:38pm

re: #241 LudwigVanQuixote

Cato, I realized after re reading that post that you were mostly bitching about hypocrisy amongst the greens and expressing the desire that some judgement comes to them. The problem is that it comes to everyone else as well and the brown people that we both defend get hit first.

As to viable alternative energy sources.

Really honestly,
Nuclear, Solar, Wind and smart grids will do it!

and hydro for NYC? come on, we had it & it was good....

247 ~Fianna  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:21:48pm

re: #225 Firstinla

Thanks for the alert. There is some knowledge I can live without so I won't bother with these two.

Donohue comes up frequently enough. I don't think there are enough Hail Marys and Our Fathers to make up for the damage that he's done to the Catholic church in general and basic human decency in particular.

The short version, he's the president of the Catholic League for Civil and Religious Rights in the United States. In practice, he's justified just about every nasty thing the church has been responsible for. He's an intellectual descendant of Fr. Conklin.

248 albusteve  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:22:13pm

re: #234 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well... pie is good.

there will always be pie....it's somewhere in the genetic code, like aggression

249 webevintage  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:22:15pm

re: #233 Alouette

My daughter's computer is infected by the Control Center virus and her credit card has been compromised. All the google links on "uninstall control center" link to other downloads. She's having a meltdown. Any suggestions?

Bastards.

Go here:
[Link: www.bleepingcomputer.com...]

So far their directions have helped me.

250 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:22:29pm

re: #233 Alouette

My daughter's computer is infected by the Control Center virus and her credit card has been compromised. All the google links on "uninstall control center" link to other downloads. She's having a meltdown. Any suggestions?

does she need the data on the drive? Easy solution (but time consuming) buy a new HD, reinstall windows.

Hard solution...ummm, let me look it up. :)

251 Gus  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:22:55pm

re: #231 WindUpBird

IIRC it was an attempt by the Bush administration to bring home the idea that suicide bombers aren't just killing themselves. But the resulting language just sounded silly.

And another:

President Speaks to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee
Remarks by the President to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee
Washington Convention Center
Washington, D.C.
May 18, 2004

And for the sake of peace and security, we ended the regime of Saddam Hussein. (Applause.) That regime cast a shadow, a dark shadow of aggression over the Middle East for decades. They invaded both Iran and Kuwait. The regime built and used weapons of mass destruction against its neighbors, and its own people. The regime sponsored terror; it paid rewards of up to $25,000 to the families of Palestinian homicide bombers. That regime filled mass graves with innocent men, innocent women, and innocent children. That regime defied the demands of the free world, and America, for more than a decade. And America is more secure, and the world is better off, because that regime is no more. (Applause.)

252 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:23:05pm

re: #192 Gus 802

Just wanted to point out that it wasn't exclusive to CNN.

I only watch Fox News on weekends...doctor's orders.

253 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:23:09pm

re: #233 Alouette

My daughter's computer is infected by the Control Center virus and her credit card has been compromised. All the google links on "uninstall control center" link to other downloads. She's having a meltdown. Any suggestions?

[Link: www.bleepingcomputer.com...]

254 ~Fianna  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:23:11pm

re: #233 Alouette

My daughter's computer is infected by the Control Center virus and her credit card has been compromised. All the google links on "uninstall control center" link to other downloads. She's having a meltdown. Any suggestions?

Ick. I fought a similar one a few weeks ago on one of our remote workstations for work.

Can she get to any legitimate antivirus program sites (Norton, Avast!, etc)?

255 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:23:15pm

re: #238 brookly red

I dinged that. Not for any other reason than it was a funny fucking post.

256 albusteve  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:23:24pm

re: #238 brookly red

so exactly where are you planning to go ? (and please don't let me stop you)

back in time....to the days when the Cowboys won the SB!

257 Firstinla  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:23:41pm

re: #247 ~Fianna


My brother just informed me that Donohue started out making pizza. How'd he jump to being the voice of the Cath Church?

258 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:23:51pm

re: #233 Alouette

Cancel the card, ASAP. The rest can wait.

259 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:24:19pm

re: #257 Firstinla

My brother just informed me that Donohue started out making pizza. How'd he jump to being the voice of the Cath Church?


as in Domino's Donohue?

260 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:24:26pm

re: #233 Alouette

My daughter's computer is infected by the Control Center virus and her credit card has been compromised. All the google links on "uninstall control center" link to other downloads. She's having a meltdown. Any suggestions?

[Link: social.answers.microsoft.com...]

That might help!

Scroll down where the guy suggests safe-mode and then a ctrl key combo to bypass the Control Center thingy.

261 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:24:37pm

re: #240 Querent

cancel the card, buy a new computer, and shoot the old one full of holes in the back 40?

I told her that her card is compromised and Chase Bank customer service is CLOSED.

262 albusteve  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:24:48pm

re: #242 LudwigVanQuixote

Fine so stay in the asshole category and prove you really don't care by no longer feeling the need to snipe at every post I make.

I didn't snipe at your post....your 'victim' act gets so old tho that I'm considering an all out snipefest....lighten up

263 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:24:50pm

re: #256 albusteve

back in time...to the days when the Cowboys won the SB!

wait... take these lottery numbers with you.

264 Firstinla  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:25:06pm

re: #259 Querent


That''s what he said: Domino's Pizza. And Domino's Pizza sucks.

265 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:25:31pm

re: #256 albusteve

back in time...to the days when the Cowboys won the SB!

While you're back there, please say hello to my sanity!

266 ~Fianna  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:25:46pm

re: #257 Firstinla

My brother just informed me that Donohue started out making pizza. How'd he jump to being the voice of the Cath Church?

No clue. I didn't know he started out with pizza.

267 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:26:24pm

re: #266 ~Fianna

No clue. I didn't know he started out with pizza.

he was just in it fore the dough !$

268 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:26:27pm

I am moving on to the website behind my eyelids.

G'night knuckleheads!

269 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:26:36pm

re: #263 brookly red

wait... take these lottery numbers with you.

Here's the stock market chart for the next year. Take it with you!
Hint, buy Enron!

270 Firstinla  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:26:38pm

re: #266 ~Fianna


Pizza/Catholic Church..it's all kind of Italian.

271 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:26:40pm

re: #264 Firstinla

That''s what he said: Domino's Pizza. And Domino's Pizza sucks.


Having worked for Pizza Hut for 3 years (and gone to Round Table when i wanted pizza made mY way) i'm inclined to give you an 'ay-men' for that!

272 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:26:46pm

re: #268 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am moving on to the website behind my eyelids.

G'night knuckleheads!

Cya FVB

273 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:27:21pm

re: #268 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sleep tight!

274 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:27:26pm

re: #272 sattv4u2

Cya FVB

FBV

PIMF

275 albusteve  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:27:30pm

re: #263 brookly red

wait... take these lottery numbers with you.

no shit....who's Secretariat anyway?

276 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:27:42pm

re: #265 sattv4u2

While you're back there, please say hello to my sanity!

Are you still looking for your sanity?

277 ~Fianna  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:27:46pm

re: #261 Alouette

I told her that her card is compromised and Chase Bank customer service is CLOSED.

They should have a 24-hour number for lost/stolen cards.

Here it is: [no phone numbers allowed]
link to Chase with the number: [Link: www.chasehsa.com...]

278 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:27:51pm

re: #261 Alouette

I told her that her card is compromised and Chase Bank customer service is CLOSED.

but McAfee and Norton and AVG customer service are all open 24/7

279 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:28:11pm

re: #235 WindUpBird

Chechnya is a lot more complex than just TEH IZZZLAAAMMM

Just saying. Serious business. lots of history. Lots of dead civilians.

Chechnya has been Muslim since the time it was part of the Ottoman Empire. It was conquered by Russia in the 1790's.
In other words, it has been Islamic all the way.
But if you and others want to pretend that Islam has nothing to do with the conflict then go ahead and knock yourselves out.

280 ~Fianna  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:28:17pm

re: #264 Firstinla

That''s what he said: Domino's Pizza. And Domino's Pizza sucks.

Yes. yes it does.

But it made a lot of money. I bet that's the answer to how he became a spokesman for anything.

281 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:28:37pm

re: #276 Walter L. Newton

Are you still looking for your sanity?

actually ,, I can't lose what i've never had!

282 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:28:44pm

re: #270 Firstinla

Pizza/Catholic Church..it's all kind of Italian.

/yeah, no room for da fruit ...

283 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:28:48pm

re: #280 ~Fianna

Yes. yes it does.

But it made a lot of money. I bet that's the answer to how he became a spokesman for anything.

ding ding ding we have a winnah!!!

284 freetoken  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:28:54pm

re: #261 Alouette

Should be a toll free number on the back that should help.

285 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:29:11pm

re: #233 Alouette

My daughter's computer is infected by the Control Center virus and her credit card has been compromised. All the google links on "uninstall control center" link to other downloads. She's having a meltdown. Any suggestions?


And after it's cleared up (assuming it's cleared up) install Microsoft Security Essentials: [Link: www.microsoft.com...]

it doesn't come with Windows because of antitrust laws, but it's free, and superior to Norton, McAfee, et al.

286 albusteve  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:29:21pm

re: #265 sattv4u2

While you're back there, please say hello to my sanity!

that costs extra....sanity can be very elusive you know

287 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:29:42pm

re: #284 freetoken

Should be a toll free number on the back that should help.

We called that number. The voice mail says OFFICES ARE CLOSED.

288 Stonemason  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:29:43pm

re: #13 doubter4444

See!
It's not that they are right wing, it's that they are Paulians!
Watch for that to be the next meme. Ron Paul is going to be the demarcation line in the future.
Real Republicans and non crazies should and will start to separate along these lines.
Rabid Tea-bagger/Paulian vs. Republican.
I'm guessing Sarah is on the T/P side.

Thank you, that is a great idea, one I have been positing for some time now. Don't forget the other line, the one that cuts the left at Code Pink/DU/Move on...Dennis Kuscinich.

That way those of us who are conservative in nature can honestly oppose the Paulian nuts and the tea party types while not being constantly painted with that huge brush.

289 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:29:57pm

re: #286 albusteve

that costs extra...sanity can be very elusive you know

but I have a Sanity Clause

oh ,, wait ,,, thats only during December ,,, damn!

290 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:30:32pm

re: #275 albusteve

no shit...who's Secretariat anyway?

a certain poster's mother... but I am sworn to secretary...

291 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:30:40pm

re: #251 Gus 802

Homicide bomber is a much better term than suicide bomber. It puts the emphasis on those they attack.

292 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:30:49pm

re: #285 WindUpBird

And after it's cleared up (assuming it's cleared up) install Microsoft Security Essentials: [Link: www.microsoft.com...]

it doesn't come with Windows because of antitrust laws, but it's free, and superior to Norton, McAfee, et al.

I have been using McAfee just about since it was first released, and I have never had any problems with it, nor have I ever had any infection on my computer, and I've been on line since day one.

293 freetoken  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:31:13pm

Then call MC or Visa (whichever symbol is on the front.)

1-800-MasterCard

294 ~Fianna  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:31:26pm

re: #287 Alouette

We called that number. The voice mail says OFFICES ARE CLOSED.

Wow. That's... insane!

295 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:31:27pm

re: #246 brookly red

and hydro for NYC? come on, we had it & it was good...

Why do you think that is funny? What is your point? You were already debunked on that.

Or perhaps you wish to mock me that in my spare time I was never a city planner for NYC?

Dude get a grip.

296 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:31:40pm

re: #287 Alouette

We called that number. The voice mail says OFFICES ARE CLOSED.

huh ,,, a (bank) credit card ?!?!?!?

297 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:31:48pm

re: #288 Stonemason

Thank you, that is a great idea, one I have been positing for some time now. Don't forget the other line, the one that cuts the left at Code Pink/DU/Move on...Dennis Kuscinich.

That way those of us who are conservative in nature can honestly oppose the Paulian nuts and the tea party types while not being constantly painted with that huge brush.

yes, but... can we cut both those fringes off at those lines, then put them both in the Super Bowl, put the resulting fracas on Pay-Per-View, and knock that deficit down with the proceeds?

298 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:32:06pm

re: #233 Alouette

My daughter's computer is infected by the Control Center virus and her credit card has been compromised. All the google links on "uninstall control center" link to other downloads. She's having a meltdown. Any suggestions?

Hi Alouette,

That is not so much a virus, it is a program that creates fake virus alerts in an attempt to get you to purchase their program to 'fix' the false problems.

The solution is to remove the Control Center program itself. Malwarebytes would do that.

If her credit card is 'compromised' it is a separate issue, unrelated to Control Center.

299 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:32:25pm

re: #295 LudwigVanQuixote

Why do you think that is funny? What is your point? You were already debunked on that.

Or perhaps you wish to mock me that in my spare time I was never a city planner for NYC?

Dude get a grip.

Seriously, you were a city planner of NYC? Cool.

300 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:32:33pm

re: #279 Spare O'Lake

Chechnya has been Muslim since the time it was part of the Ottoman Empire. It was conquered by Russia in the 1790's.
In other words, it has been Islamic all the way.
But if you and others want to pretend that Islam has nothing to do with the conflict then go ahead and knock yourselves out.

But it's not the same as what's going on in the Middle East, is what I'm saying. it is its own thing.

I never said Islam has nothing to do with the conflict, stop making up crazy bullshit that I never said. I said it's more complex than you're making it out to be. And I am correct. it is more complex than you are making it out to be, and the cause is not solely radical Islam.

It's as if you think of Islam like it's a mind control satellite that Blofeld operates.

301 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:32:39pm

re: #261 Alouette

I told her that her card is compromised and Chase Bank customer service is CLOSED.

There should be a 24/7 line she can reach.

This is really critical that she stops doing whatever she is doing NOW and finds that line and cancels the card.

302 freetoken  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:32:44pm

For Visa Card:
[Link: usa.visa.com...]

303 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:33:22pm

re: #302 freetoken

For Visa Card:
[Link: usa.visa.com...]

Good show Freetoken!

304 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:33:39pm

re: #298 Bagua

Hi Alouette,

That is not so much a virus, it is a program that creates fake virus alerts in an attempt to get you to purchase their program to 'fix' the false problems.

That's eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil.

The solution is to remove the Control Center program itself. Malwarebytes would do that.

If her credit card is 'compromised' it is a separate issue, unrelated to Control Center.

305 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:33:51pm

re: #300 WindUpBird

But it's not the same as what's going on in the Middle East, is what I'm saying. it is its own thing.

I never said Islam has nothing to do with the conflict, stop making up crazy bullshit that I never said. I said it's more complex than you're making it out to be. And I am correct. it is more complex than you are making it out to be, and the cause is not solely radical Islam.

It's as if you think of Islam like it's a mind control satellite that Blofeld operates.

And might it occur to you that one of the reasons they're so militant is that whole CONQUERED BY RUSSIA THING whoa weird

306 Stonemason  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:34:02pm

re: #275 albusteve

no shit...who's Secretariat anyway?

Triple Crown, 1973

307 webevintage  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:34:09pm

re: #261 Alouette

I told her that her card is compromised and Chase Bank customer service is CLOSED.

The first thing I would do is have her calm down.
Use the directions at bleeping computer.
We had this type of virus on both of our computers and never cancelled our CC. The virus tells you that your information has been compromised so you will click on the links.

If she cannot get Malwarebytes to download then do a system restore, restart, the shut down, then restart in safe mode, then download Malwarebytes.

308 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:34:14pm

re: #241 LudwigVanQuixote

Really honestly,
Nuclear, Solar, Wind and smart grids will do it!

Right.

In fifty years, about the time the bwahaha catastrophe kicks in. If we're very, very lucky.

Unless you would advocate shutting everything else down until then, I suggest you don't hold your breath.

Because in the meantime the Real World is going to be burning the fuck out of (still cheap, by any measure) so-called fossil fuels.

If you want to make a real difference, I suggest you invest wisely and boldly in fossil fuels and donate the proceeds to solar and wind companies. You'll win first, and then lose, and then maybe win again.

In the meantime, I'll be dead, but I'll have read all of Shakespeare, Goethe, and Alexander Pope.

Tell me, am I an evil loser?

309 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:34:21pm

re: #291 marjoriemoon

Homicide bomber is a much better term than suicide bomber. It puts the emphasis on those they attack.

how about terrorist bomber... how about damn terrorist murdering bomber... does that work for you?

310 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:34:50pm

re: #287 Alouette

We called that number. The voice mail says OFFICES ARE CLOSED.

OK is it VISA or MasterCard or Amex?

Go to the website of whatever is appropriate and there will be a 24/7 help line.

311 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:35:20pm

re: #298 Bagua

Hi Alouette,

That is not so much a virus, it is a program that creates fake virus alerts in an attempt to get you to purchase their program to 'fix' the false problems.

The solution is to remove the Control Center program itself. Malwarebytes would do that.

If her credit card is 'compromised' it is a separate issue, unrelated to Control Center.

The difference between a Virus and Malware is that Malware is a business. :D

And from what i understand, she'll need to get PAST Control Center in order to install anything like Malwarebytes, which is why I linked to that microsoft forum with the suggestion about starting in safe mode and the so on and so forth.

312 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:35:47pm

re: #309 brookly red

how about terrorist bomber... how about damn terrorist murdering bomber... does that work for you?

don't hold back, tell us how you REALLY feel...

313 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:36:05pm

re: #309 brookly red

how about terrorist bomber... how about damn terrorist murdering bomber... does that work for you?

Terrorist bomber is less specific than suicide bomber. Suicide bomber, we know what that means.

I like specific language!

314 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:36:12pm

OK she's on the phone with customer service now, we called Freetoken's number.

She has stopped hyperventilating.

315 Gus  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:36:27pm

re: #291 marjoriemoon

Homicide bomber is a much better term than suicide bomber. It puts the emphasis on those they attack.

I think after all of these years that the results of a suicide bomber is permanently ingrained in our minds.

316 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:36:28pm

re: #312 Querent
Goddamn sonsabitches.

317 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:36:28pm

re: #295 LudwigVanQuixote

Why do you think that is funny? What is your point? You were already debunked on that.

Or perhaps you wish to mock me that in my spare time I was never a city planner for NYC?

Dude get a grip.

no I just want to mock your dem=green claim cause it is bullshit and you got nothing when it come to NYC:)

318 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:36:44pm

re: #308 Cato the Elder

Right.

In fifty years, about the time the bwahaha catastrophe kicks in. If we're very, very lucky.

Unless you would advocate shutting everything else down until then, I suggest you don't hold your breath.

Because in the meantime the Real World is going to be burning the fuck out of (still cheap, by any measure) so-called fossil fuels.

If you want to make a real difference, I suggest you invest wisely and boldly in fossil fuels and donate the proceeds to solar and wind companies. You'll win first, and then lose, and then maybe win again.

In the meantime, I'll be dead, but I'll have read all of Shakespeare, Goethe, and Alexander Pope.

Tell me, am I an evil loser?

Cato, please. Really? I am so not in the mood tonight. Can we make out a little instead and do this later. Besides let's work on helping Alouette.

319 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:37:14pm

re: #308 Cato the Elder

Right.

In fifty years, about the time the bwahaha catastrophe kicks in. If we're very, very lucky.

Unless you would advocate shutting everything else down until then, I suggest you don't hold your breath.

Because in the meantime the Real World is going to be burning the fuck out of (still cheap, by any measure) so-called fossil fuels.

If you want to make a real difference, I suggest you invest wisely and boldly in fossil fuels and donate the proceeds to solar and wind companies. You'll win first, and then lose, and then maybe win again.

In the meantime, I'll be dead, but I'll have read all of Shakespeare, Goethe, and Alexander Pope.

Tell me, am I an evil loser?

your not evil...

320 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:37:16pm

re: #287 Alouette

We called that number. The voice mail says OFFICES ARE CLOSED.

Hehe I can't type phone numbers here, but toll free numbers have directory assistance. The number is here. Ask for Chase Bank customer service. It's the 1212 number.

321 ~Fianna  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:38:15pm

re: #307 webevintage

The first thing I would do is have her calm down.
Use the directions at bleeping computer.
We had this type of virus on both of our computers and never cancelled our CC. The virus tells you that your information has been compromised so you will click on the links.

If she cannot get Malwarebytes to download then do a system restore, restart, the shut down, then restart in safe mode, then download Malwarebytes.

Unless she bought the program, which is what Control Center is designed to get you to do.

Step one, cancel the card.

Step two, update your anti-virus (or download one) I recommend Avast! I run it both on my laptop and on all our work computers. [Link: www.avast.com...] is the free home version.

Step three, install Avast and open the control panel. Schedule a boot time scan (this will start scanning the system before it's fully loaded, which is the safest and most effective way to remove anything that's impacting the system files)

Step four, reboot the machine and let it run the boot-time. This may take a while.

Step five, keep Avast (or another reputable anti-virus program) running.

If she can't get to the antivirus sites, it's going to be more complicated and someone's going to need to come over with the installer on a disk or on a flash drive.

322 albusteve  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:38:23pm

re: #317 brookly red

no I just want to mock your dem=green claim cause it is bullshit and you got nothing when it come to NYC:)

look at the mess the donks have put CA in...without nuclear power 12 billion people will die of thirst by 2015

323 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:38:31pm

re: #314 Alouette

OK she's on the phone with customer service now, we called Freetoken's number.

She has stopped hyperventilating.

Also it is possible that the card has not been compromised. The Control Center malware is designed to convince you to get a phony program by telling you that your system and card was compromised.

The Visa people will be able to tell her if there have been any recent withdrawals.

324 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:38:43pm

re: #309 brookly red

how about terrorist bomber... how about damn terrorist murdering bomber... does that work for you?

Works great for me!

It's surprising to see anyone say homicide bomber in print. I'm completely ok with that too.

325 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:39:11pm

re: #322 albusteve
Let 'em drink tequila!

326 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:39:40pm

re: #300 WindUpBird


It's as if you think of Islam like it's a mind control satellite that Blofeld operates.

That is exactly what radical Islam aims to be.

327 Gus  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:39:48pm

re: #313 WindUpBird

Terrorist bomber is less specific than suicide bomber. Suicide bomber, we know what that means.

I like specific language!

Plus we're not in the business of determining popular word usage. Suicide bomber is specific for someone that delivers the bomb on their person or vehicle and dies in the process. The results are self evident. And in the current modern usage it is common to associate suicide bombers with terrorists.

328 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:39:50pm

re: #315 Gus 802

I think after all of these years that the results of a suicide bomber is permanently ingrained in our minds.

It's still a bad term. But I'll take it over separatist, militant or rebel.

329 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:40:05pm

re: #322 albusteve

look at the mess the donks have put CA in...without nuclear power 12 billion people will die of thirst by 2015

actually, without desalinization plants, but my energy independence formular for CA has been revised to "25 nuclear plants".

330 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:40:16pm

re: #322 albusteve

look at the mess the donks have put CA in...without nuclear power 12 billion people will die of thirst by 2015

/Oooooh those ebil neo cons!

331 albusteve  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:40:23pm

re: #325 pingjockey

Let 'em drink tequila!

do it for the GUPPIES!

332 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:40:24pm

re: #307 webevintage

This is not the only post, but you know what?
Lizards are really cool & helpfull.
Yes, you all are.
So whack yourself on the back, for doing a good deed today.
No, HARDER!

333 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:41:05pm

re: #308 Cato the Elder

Right.

In fifty years, about the time the bwahaha catastrophe kicks in. If we're very, very lucky.

Unless you would advocate shutting everything else down until then, I suggest you don't hold your breath.

Because in the meantime the Real World is going to be burning the fuck out of (still cheap, by any measure) so-called fossil fuels.

If you want to make a real difference, I suggest you invest wisely and boldly in fossil fuels and donate the proceeds to solar and wind companies. You'll win first, and then lose, and then maybe win again.

In the meantime, I'll be dead, but I'll have read all of Shakespeare, Goethe, and Alexander Pope.

Tell me, am I an evil loser?

Cato, I know you, you are not an evil loser. You are probably one of the most level headed, logical critical thinker I have ever had the pleasure of meeting.

334 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:41:06pm

re: #332 Floral Giraffe

This is not the only post, but you know what?
Lizards are really cool & helpfull.
Yes, you all are.
So whack yourself on the back, for doing a good deed today.
No, HARDER!

OWE ,,, hurt my shoulder and elbow ,, DAMN

335 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:41:32pm

re: #333 Walter L. Newton

Cato, I know you, you are not an evil loser. You are probably one of the most level headed, logical critical thinker I have ever had the pleasure of meeting.

You don't get out much, do ya!!!

//

336 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:41:50pm

re: #311 WindUpBird

The difference between a Virus and Malware is that Malware is a business. :D

And from what i understand, she'll need to get PAST Control Center in order to install anything like Malwarebytes, which is why I linked to that microsoft forum with the suggestion about starting in safe mode and the so on and so forth.

Yes, good advice. Or she could disable the Control Center from auto-start up, and then remove it.

The files are:
Agent.exe
cc.exe
uninstall.exe
ccagent.exe.

Or just use the following programs to get rid of Control Center.

Download and run this

Then do not restart,

and download and run this

Run Malwarebytes' and it should eliminate the Control Center annoyance.

337 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:42:09pm

re: #327 Gus 802

Plus we're not in the business of determining popular word usage. Suicide bomber is specific for someone that delivers the bomb on their person or vehicle and dies in the process. The results are self evident. And in the current modern usage it is common to associate suicide bombers with terrorists.

Per your statement, homicide bomber is just as accurate. Moreso, because the homicides are often multiple.

338 albusteve  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:42:30pm

re: #329 Querent

actually, without desalinization plants, but my energy independence formular for CA has been revised to "25 nuclear plants".

and make it snappy!...we don't have all day!

339 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:42:44pm

re: #319 brookly red

your not evil...

Maybe not, but I play it on the intarwebs.

340 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:42:46pm

re: #333 Walter L. Newton

Well, yes, except for that Sarah blow up doll thingy!

341 Stonemason  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:42:51pm

re: #332 Floral Giraffe

This is not the only post, but you know what?
Lizards are really cool & helpfull.
Yes, you all are.
So whack yourself on the back, for doing a good deed today.
No, HARDER!


Poster RealWest got me out of a similar jam a few years back...LGF posters seem to know what to do about these things!

(mine was conficker)

342 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:42:55pm

re: #317 brookly red

no I just want to mock your dem=green claim cause it is bullshit and you got nothing when it come to NYC:)

Well that's funny, I have only written about a hundred times that 1. I am not a Dem and 2. The Dems are bad on this too.

As to having nothing on NY, well geeze skippy, that whole sea level rise thing is real and happening now and NY it is a relatively low lying patch of land.

Why you think this is funny or elucidating is beyond me. It's really just making you an ass.

343 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:43:02pm

re: #338 albusteve
damned straight buckaroo!

344 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:43:08pm

re: #334 sattv4u2

Good, you did it right!

345 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:43:13pm

re: #335 sattv4u2

You don't get out much, do ya!!!

//

You're right.

346 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:45:07pm

G'nite folks!

347 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:45:14pm

re: #342 LudwigVanQuixote

Well that's funny, I have only written about a hundred times that 1. I am not a Dem and 2. The Dems are bad on this too.

As to having nothing on NY, well geeze skippy, that whole sea level rise thing is real and happening now and NY it is a relatively low lying patch of land.

Why you think this is funny or elucidating is beyond me. It's really just making you an ass.

Didn't an island in India finally disappear under water because of sea levels rising?

348 austin_blue  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:45:30pm

re: #338 albusteve

and make it snappy!...we don't have all day!

Agreed, but siting is iffy in the quake states.

349 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:45:53pm

re: #346 pingjockey

G'nite folks!

Sleep tight, Ping! Glad you are back!
((PJ))

350 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:45:55pm

re: #318 LudwigVanQuixote

Cato, please. Really? I am so not in the mood tonight. Can we make out a little instead and do this later. Besides let's work on helping Alouette.

If you are Anne Hathaway in disguise, I am ready to make out until the Sun of Doom Rises Over the Last Day.

As for helping Alouette, I'm ready for that any time, regardless.

351 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:46:11pm

re: #308 Cato the Elder

Right.

In fifty years, about the time the bwahaha catastrophe kicks in. If we're very, very lucky.

Unless you would advocate shutting everything else down until then, I suggest you don't hold your breath.

Because in the meantime the Real World is going to be burning the fuck out of (still cheap, by any measure) so-called fossil fuels.

If you want to make a real difference, I suggest you invest wisely and boldly in fossil fuels and donate the proceeds to solar and wind companies. You'll win first, and then lose, and then maybe win again.

In the meantime, I'll be dead, but I'll have read all of Shakespeare, Goethe, and Alexander Pope.

Tell me, am I an evil loser?

Here's some mood music to sing along with while you await your sentence.

352 Gus  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:46:13pm

re: #337 marjoriemoon

Per your statement, homicide bomber is just as accurate. Moreso, because the homicides are often multiple.

I didn't mean to say it wasn't accurate. When I was thinking about the phrase homicide bomber I thought it could also define someone who perpetrated a terrorist bombing with no intention of dying in the process. In that case all suicide bombers are homicide bombers but not all homicide bombers would be suicide bombers.

353 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:46:24pm

re: #342 LudwigVanQuixote

Well that's funny, I have only written about a hundred times that 1. I am not a Dem and 2. The Dems are bad on this too.

As to having nothing on NY, well geeze skippy, that whole sea level rise thing is real and happening now and NY it is a relatively low lying patch of land.

Why you think this is funny or elucidating is beyond me. It's really just making you an ass.

Think of how rising sea levels will help the employment situation. Lots of seawalls to build and airport maps to change!

354 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:46:29pm

re: #342 LudwigVanQuixote

Well that's funny, I have only written about a hundred times that 1. I am not a Dem and 2. The Dems are bad on this too.

As to having nothing on NY, well geeze skippy, that whole sea level rise thing is real and happening now and NY it is a relatively low lying patch of land.

Why you think this is funny or elucidating is beyond me. It's really just making you an ass.


some how I don't feel that your calling me an ass makes me one... sorry to disappoint you but you tenancy to call others names could just make you one... sorta kinda

355 albusteve  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:46:30pm

re: #348 austin_blue

Agreed, but siting is iffy in the quake states.

suspend them from balloons....anything is possible

356 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:47:06pm

re: #354 brookly red

some how I don't feel that your calling me an ass makes me one... sorry to disappoint you but you tenancy to call others names could just make you one... sorta kinda

Really red is there some reason for all of this?

357 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:47:15pm

re: #350 Cato the Elder

If you are Anne Hathaway in disguise, I am ready to make out until the Sun of Doom Rises Over the Last Day.

As for helping Alouette, I'm ready for that any time, regardless.

Well, gosh, Cato, thank you for sharing.

358 Firstinla  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:47:33pm

I think of Timothy McVeigh as a homicide bomber and the women in Russia as suicide bombers. Yeah, there's a difference.

359 austin_blue  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:47:37pm

re: #350 Cato the Elder

If you are Anne Hathaway in disguise, I am ready to make out until the Sun of Doom Rises Over the Last Day.

As for helping Alouette, I'm ready for that any time, regardless.

Late to the thread. What's up w/ Alouette?

360 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:47:46pm

re: #314 Alouette

Here is a video that gives a step by step of the Control Center removal process I explained above.


Control Center removal

Youtube Video
361 Gus  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:48:05pm

re: #352 Gus 802

I didn't mean to say it wasn't accurate. When I was thinking about the phrase homicide bomber I thought it could also define someone who perpetrated a terrorist bombing with no intention of dying in the process. In that case all suicide bombers are homicide bombers but not all homicide bombers would be suicide bombers.

Let me rephrase that. The logic didn't follow. I should have said, "in any event, all suicide bombers are homicide bombers but not all homicide bombers are be suicide bombers."

Or something.

362 albusteve  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:48:12pm

not again?....
[Link: www.hyperionpowergeneration.com...]

The Answer

363 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:48:47pm

re: #356 LudwigVanQuixote

Really red is there some reason for all of this?

yes... the holier than thou card.

364 Gus  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:49:02pm

Ugh, my grammar and/or typing just went out the window.

365 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:49:55pm

re: #353 Van Helsing

Think of how rising sea levels will help the employment situation. Lots of seawalls to build and airport maps to change!

Somebody help me here... didn't an island disappear recently because of rising seal levels? I can't find the story, but I thought I read something about it a while back.

366 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:50:20pm

re: #352 Gus 802

I didn't mean to say it wasn't accurate. When I was thinking about the phrase homicide bomber I thought it could also define someone who perpetrated a terrorist bombing with no intention of dying in the process. In that case all suicide bombers are homicide bombers but not all homicide bombers would be suicide bombers.

Hmmm... suicide is murder, however, the killing of yourself. Homicide of yourself.

367 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:50:28pm

re: #365 Walter L. Newton

Somebody help me here... didn't an island disappear recently because of rising seal levels? I can't find the story, but I thought I read something about it a while back.

Atlantis!?!?!
/

368 ryannon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:50:31pm

re: #356 LudwigVanQuixote

Really red is there some reason for all of this?

Open the pod bay doors, Hal.

369 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:50:42pm

re: #365 Walter L. Newton

yes -- i read about it here on LGF a few days back.

370 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:50:53pm

re: #363 brookly red

yes... the holier than thou card.

You mean the one you perceive and are trying to counter with the obnoxious and picking a meaningless fight card?

371 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:51:07pm

re: #365 Walter L. Newton

Somebody help me here... didn't an island disappear recently because of rising seal levels? I can't find the story, but I thought I read something about it a while back.

Rhode Island is not actually an island...

372 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:51:10pm

re: #365 Walter L. Newton

Hey Walter, what did you think about this weeks episode?

373 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:51:11pm

re: #367 sattv4u2

Atlantis!?!?!
/

No... I'm not kidding, I can't find the link right now, but it was really sort of scary... does anyone have a link?

374 Firstinla  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:51:13pm

re: #365 Walter L. Newton

Yes, and no. That island has appeared and disappeared on a fairly regular basis. By the way, how was your Seder?

375 Gus  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:51:15pm

re: #366 marjoriemoon

Hmmm... suicide is murder, however, the killing of yourself. Homicide of yourself.

Then why do they say murder-suicide?

I don't consider suicide murder.

376 researchok  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:51:21pm

re: #365 Walter L. Newton

Somebody help me here... didn't an island disappear recently because of rising seal levels? I can't find the story, but I thought I read something about it a while back.

New Moore Island

377 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:51:23pm

re: #358 Firstinla

I think of Timothy McVeigh as a homicide bomber and the women in Russia as suicide bombers. Yeah, there's a difference.

I'm not following. Where do you see the difference.

378 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:51:44pm

re: #370 LudwigVanQuixote

You mean the one you perceive and are trying to counter with the obnoxious and picking a meaningless fight card?

just the facts mam...

379 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:51:48pm

re: #361 Gus 802

Let me rephrase that. The logic didn't follow. I should have said, "in any event, all suicide bombers are homicide bombers but not all homicide bombers are be suicide bombers."

Or something.

lol yer cute.

380 Gus  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:52:28pm

re: #379 marjoriemoon

lol yer cute.

:)

Was wondering if Cato would chime in.

381 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:52:43pm

re: #365 Walter L. Newton

Somebody help me here... didn't an island disappear recently because of rising seal levels? I can't find the story, but I thought I read something about it a while back.

This?

382 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:52:43pm

re: #376 researchok

New NO Moore Island

Fixed that for ya.

383 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:52:47pm

re: #378 brookly red

just the facts mam...

OK it is a fact that you are being obnoxious for no good reason and picking a meaningless fight.

384 albusteve  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:52:50pm

re: #368 ryannon

Open the pod bay doors, Hal.

Daisy
Daisy...

385 Firstinla  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:53:18pm

re: #377 marjoriemoon

McVeigh murdered others and fled to avoid any harm to himself. Suicide bombers murder others and off themselves at the same time. That's the difference.

386 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:53:20pm

re: #375 Gus 802

Then why do they say murder-suicide?

I don't consider suicide murder.

Because it's a unique murder in that regard, but that's why it's illegal (and immoral).

387 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:53:20pm

re: #373 Walter L. Newton

No... I'm not kidding, I can't find the link right now, but it was really sort of scary... does anyone have a link?

Disappearing world: Global warming claims tropical island

388 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:53:24pm

re: #370 LudwigVanQuixote

You mean the one you perceive and are trying to counter with the obnoxious and picking a meaningless fight card?

No,, the one that ends with you calling someone a name if they disagree with you

(and yes ,,, you may now call me a 'gadfly" , as is your wont)

389 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:53:43pm

re: #380 Gus 802

:)

Was wondering if Cato would chime in.

I think he's busy lol

390 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:54:13pm

re: #368 ryannon

Open the pod bay doors, Hal.

Hahahahahahaha...best line of the night...hahahahahaha

391 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:54:18pm

re: #333 Walter L. Newton

Cato, I know you, you are not an evil loser. You are probably one of the most level headed, logical critical thinker I have ever had the pleasure of meeting.

Ah, but then, you haven't checked your bookshelves since I was there, have you?

I steal books, skim them while driving down Route 70, and then throw them out the window with my beer cans, Jäger bottles, and cigar butts! All the while making up nasty rhymes about Mandy!

I'm eeevul and I revvvul in it!

392 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:54:21pm

re: #359 austin_blue

Late to the thread. What's up w/ Alouette?

My daughter got "phished" by some malware program "Control Center" that is holding her operating system hostage until she gives them her credit card number, and she gave it to them! Now her card is compromised and she can't get rid of this malware.

393 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:54:24pm

re: #385 Firstinla

McVeigh murdered others and fled to avoid any harm to himself. Suicide bombers murder others and off themselves at the same time. That's the difference.

Oh ok, I'm with ya. I misread upthread.

394 Gus  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:54:40pm

re: #389 marjoriemoon

I think he's busy lol

Yeah. I introduced him to Anne Hathaway the other night. /

395 austin_blue  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:54:41pm

re: #355 albusteve

suspend them from balloons...anything is possible

Hah! They actually installed a nuke reactor on a B-36 back in the fifties to investigate if electric engines, powered by an airborne reactor, was viable (the engines were never installed and the project came to nothing). All of the crew had to wear lead underwear (joke) and the plane and the reactor were buried in Hansford.

Fail:

[Link: www.brookings.edu...]

396 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:54:48pm

re: #383 LudwigVanQuixote

OK it is a fact that you are being obnoxious for no good reason and picking a meaningless fight.

no fight, just disagreeing for all the right reasons.

397 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:55:01pm

re: #376 researchok

New Moore Island

You should have not fallen for that. Walter will now link to some article that he thinks dispute the cause of its disappearance due to AGW.

But I can hope that I am wrong about Walter's intentions here. If so I will happily be wrong.

398 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:55:37pm

re: #392 Alouette

Alouette, she did not get phished, I posted how to remove this annoyance above. It is advertising.

399 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:55:40pm

re: #372 Bagua

Hey Walter, what did you think about this weeks episode?

Here's what I think. The producers have called the post 815 non-crash story line a "flash sideways" and claimed at the beginning of the season that it can't rightfully be called an "alternate timeline." And after last nights episode, I think I have an idea what is going on.

It's not a alternate time line, both time lines are happening concurrently, a lot of these people are existing in both places at the same time, they are entangled pairs, split off at the point of "the incident." And as Schrodinger cat, their "state" won't be stabilized until some point of "observation." If that point is the "wrong" point, they will cease to exist.

400 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:55:45pm

re: #395 austin_blue

Hah! They actually installed a nuke reactor on a B-36 back in the fifties to investigate if electric engines, powered by an airborne reactor, was viable (the engines were never installed and the project came to nothing). All of the crew had to wear lead underwear (joke) and the plane and the reactor were buried in Hansford.

Fail:

[Link: www.brookings.edu...]

so THAT's where Tom Lehrer's line about lead BVDs comes from...

(learn something new every day...)

401 brookly red  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:56:59pm

oppps might-night... time to go to work...

402 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:57:11pm

re: #388 sattv4u2

No,, the one that ends with you calling someone a name if they disagree with you

(and yes ,,, you may now call me a 'gadfly" , as is your wont)

1. (Life Sciences & Allied Applications / Animals) any of various large dipterous flies, esp the horsefly, that annoy livestock by sucking their blood

2. a constantly irritating or harassing person

403 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:57:39pm

re: #374 Firstinla

Yes, and no. That island has appeared and disappeared on a fairly regular basis. By the way, how was your Seder?

Very nice... 15 people, some Jews, atheists, conservatives, liberals, one communist, a very interesting "freedom" haggadah, I supplied some visual aids (like a 1st revolt Jewish prutah) and I also told some Baal Shem Tov stories.

A very enlightening evening.

404 albusteve  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:57:46pm

re: #395 austin_blue

Hah! They actually installed a nuke reactor on a B-36 back in the fifties to investigate if electric engines, powered by an airborne reactor, was viable (the engines were never installed and the project came to nothing). All of the crew had to wear lead underwear (joke) and the plane and the reactor were buried in Hansford.

Fail:

[Link: www.brookings.edu...]

heh...like back to the future reading that....seems like weight would prohibit such a thing

405 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:57:56pm

re: #392 Alouette

My daughter got "phished" by some malware program "Control Center" that is holding her operating system hostage until she gives them her credit card number, and she gave it to them! Now her card is compromised and she can't get rid of this malware.

Actually how do you know her card is compromised. Who told you that? This is important.

406 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:58:33pm

re: #397 LudwigVanQuixote

You should have not fallen for that. Walter will now link to some article that he thinks dispute the cause of its disappearance due to AGW.

But I can hope that I am wrong about Walter's intentions here. If so I will happily be wrong.

Ludwig... shut the fuck up, I didn't even know the name of the island, that's why I was asking. You are a royal jerk.

407 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:58:46pm

re: #392 Alouette

OK, if she gave them the credit card number she got scammed, for the price of the useless control center program. Just charge back through the credit card company and follow the steps I listed above and the problem is removed.

408 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:59:15pm

re: #402 LudwigVanQuixote

1. (Life Sciences & Allied Applications / Animals) any of various large dipterous flies, esp the horsefly, that annoy livestock by sucking their blood

2. a constantly irritating or harassing person

Thats good

Can you now look up blowhard!?

409 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 8:59:47pm

re: #405 LudwigVanQuixote

Actually how do you know her card is compromised. Who told you that? This is important.

Chase will issue a new card anyway and transfer the balance. They don't take chances.

410 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:00:06pm

re: #406 Walter L. Newton

Ludwig... shut the fuck up, I didn't even know the name of the island, that's why I was asking. You are a royal jerk.

Thats an insult to us actual Royal Jerks

411 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:00:13pm

re: #405 LudwigVanQuixote

Actually how do you know her card is compromised. Who told you that? This is important.

She was charged $85 by the "Control Center" malware, for their "anti-virus" software which is in and of itself a virus. They have her Visa# so she reported it stolen.

412 Stanghazi  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:00:37pm

And away they go.

I'm out, night all.

413 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:00:42pm

re: #406 Walter L. Newton

Ludwig... shut the fuck up, I didn't even know the name of the island, that's why I was asking. You are a royal jerk.

Walter, you lying sack of shit, you were the one who first linked the article here. You then went on to comment about a bit of it that you thought contradicted AGW.

414 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:01:07pm

re: #409 marjoriemoon

Chase will issue a new card anyway and transfer the balance. They don't take chances.

Which is only sensible. I am just trying to prevent hyperventilating.

415 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:01:34pm

re: #411 Alouette

She was charged $85 by the "Control Center" malware, for their "anti-virus" software which is in and of itself a virus. They have her Visa# so she reported it stolen.

and i'm thinking of the Dilbert cartoon where he registers the product he just installed and the driver software starts ordering more software...

416 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:01:45pm

re: #411 Alouette

She was charged $85 by the "Control Center" malware, for their "anti-virus" software which is in and of itself a virus. They have her Visa# so she reported it stolen.

OK so she bought the program. That's bad news. Cancel the card and you will get the $85 back.

417 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:01:57pm

re: #411 Alouette

Alouette, are you reading my replies? I posted how to eliminate the virus above, it is a small problem. Also, just charge back the $85 for the useless program. It is not a 'virus' it is an advertisement.

418 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:02:08pm

re: #413 LudwigVanQuixote

Walter, you lying sack of shit

{sigh}

I'll be back when there are only adults left!

419 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:02:11pm

re: #413 LudwigVanQuixote

Walter, you lying sack of shit, you were the one who first linked the article here. You then went on to comment about a bit of it that you thought contradicted AGW.

Linked to an article... show me...

420 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:03:18pm

re: #419 Walter L. Newton

Linked to an article... show me...

Walter I don't have the time to look up your own words on this blog from a few weeks ago. But really, the whole play innocent thing is very uncool. Look up your own posts.

421 austin_blue  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:03:36pm

re: #392 Alouette

My daughter got "phished" by some malware program "Control Center" that is holding her operating system hostage until she gives them her credit card number, and she gave it to them! Now her card is compromised and she can't get rid of this malware.

Immediately disconnect the PC from the net. It is now a 'bot. Take the hard drive to a specialist and have it isolated to remove the malware and wipe it. As an alternative, throw the PC in a dumpster after wiping the hard drive and buy a Mac. Immediately cancel the credit card, (and all her other cards), freeze the bank account and get a new one, and change all of her pins. If she has investment accounts, IRAs, Roth's, or any other investment vehicles, change the account numbers and do it yesterday.

Once they get an in, those bloodsuckers will leave a husk.

422 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:03:49pm

re: #418 sattv4u2

Walter, you lying sack of shit

{sigh}

I'll be back when there are only adults left!

Are you really leaving? Please promise to!

423 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:04:29pm

re: #419 Walter L. Newton

re: #420 LudwigVanQuixote

Walter I don't have the time to look up your own words on this blog from a few weeks ago. But really, the whole play innocent thing is very uncool. Look up your own posts.

In other words ,,,, as Ralph Kramden would say when Alice would catch him

hunnina hummina hummina

424 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:04:35pm

re: #421 austin_blue

Bullshit, you are misinformed. This is a simple advertising scam that is easily corrected.

425 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:04:50pm

re: #261 Alouette

I told her that her card is compromised and Chase Bank customer service is CLOSED.

Perhaps. But there should be a number on the back of the card for emergency shutdown. I've used it before with my Baltimore Podunk (Ravens' sponsor, bought their name on stadium, otherwise they have no claim to fame) bank, and got an automated "card cancel" option.

In three business days, she has a new card. Hope this helps.

P.S. Tell her to read the fine print on the back of the card for cancellation number!

P.P.S. The most she can be held liable for in case of fraud is fifty dollars. You can thank Socialist regulations for that. Later.

426 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:04:59pm

re: #420 LudwigVanQuixote

Walter I don't have the time to look up your own words on this blog from a few weeks ago. But really, the whole play innocent thing is very uncool. Look up your own posts.

You are the lying sack of shit... You can't, because I didn't, and there is NO ONE who can show me where I made any comment about this island, or made any links to it.

You are the lying sack of shit, and if you can't prove I did, than YOU shut the fuck up... you can't do it...

427 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:06:50pm

re: #423 sattv4u2

re: #420 LudwigVanQuixote

In other words ,,, as Ralph Kramden would say when Alice would catch him

hunnina hummina hummina

Really I thought you were going. Please do. It is not as if you contribute anything at all.

428 Van Helsing  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:06:59pm

Nite folks. Still a wonderful world

429 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:07:53pm

re: #426 Walter L. Newton

You are the lying sack of shit... You can't, because I didn't, and there is NO ONE who can show me where I made any comment about this island, or made any links to it.

You are the lying sack of shit, and if you can't prove I did, than YOU shut the fuck up... you can't do it...

Walter you did. I remember it. I will grant that just perhaps you did not post the original link but I remember it on a thread that you commented on and I remember you commenting on it.

430 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:07:58pm

re: #427 LudwigVanQuixote

Really I thought you were going. Please do. It is not as if you contribute anything at all.

You're right

let me contribute what you do

asshole
fuck you
gadfly

:)

431 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:09:00pm

re: #427 LudwigVanQuixote

Really I thought you were going. Please do. It is not as if you contribute anything at all.

I asked about the island because I knew nothing about it, nothing more than I had heard about some island and rising sea levels. I was asking you because I thought you would know about it and could offer me some insight to the situation.

You owe me an apology. I have never brought up this island on LGF (or anywhere) and until someone posted the name of the island above, I didn't even know the name of it.

432 Mich-again  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:09:15pm

Ron Paul is to kooks what turds are to flies.

433 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:09:19pm

re: #430 sattv4u2

You're right

let me contribute what you do

asshole
fuck you
gadfly

:)

Do I detect something in your voice that suggests I am in dis-favour with you?

434 ryannon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:09:27pm

re: #430 sattv4u2

You're right

let me contribute what you do

asshole
fuck you
gadfly

:)


Stinky, increase the Thorazine drips all around.

435 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:09:48pm

re: #429 LudwigVanQuixote

Walter you did. I remember it. I will grant that just perhaps you did not post the original link but I remember it on a thread that you commented on and I remember you commenting on it.

Prove it... now you are already shifting your statement. Lier.

436 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:09:49pm

re: #430 sattv4u2

You're right

let me contribute what you do

asshole
fuck you
gadfly

:)

yes you are an asshole and a gadfly and truly, fuck you sideways in a creative, invasive and painful manner...

OK happy now?

Do go away.

437 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:10:05pm

re: #427 LudwigVanQuixote

Really I thought you were going. Please do. It is not as if you contribute anything at all.

hmm... when that can of spray paint gets pulled out, there's quite a lot of lizards who should go eff off in a corner.

What, we've killed all the trolls, so now we're going cannibal on each other?

438 austin_blue  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:10:11pm

re: #424 Bagua

Bullshit, you are misinformed. This is a simple advertising scam that is easily corrected.

Maybe. Would you risk your credit on it? I wouldn't. Yes, it's a pain in the ass, but I've got a guy I work with who spent three months in legal hell fighting his bank and investment groups after he became the victim of identity theft. Nip it in the bud when there is any indication that your firewall has been breached. better safe than an ulcer.

439 BlackFedora  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:10:17pm

There is a rumor going on currently that one of the folks policed up in the Michigan raids was a person who went by the name Pale Horse. His real name is Kristofer Sickles. Apparently Pale Horse was interviewed by one Alex Jones. I remember the interview in question... Jones pretty much accused the guy of being a fed or a patsy. In any event.. if you google Kristofer Sickles you'll find some information about it. This may have come up in comments already.

440 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:10:17pm

re: #434 ryannon

Stinky, increase the Thorazine drips all around.

I'll have another glass of the Glenlivet please.

441 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:10:30pm

re: #433 Bagua

re: #434 ryannon

yeah ,, because I threw the 1st 92nd , 3rd, 4th) shots ,, NOT

442 austin_blue  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:10:44pm

re: #404 albusteve

heh...like back to the future reading that...seems like weight would prohibit such a thing

Read the link.

443 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:11:36pm

re: #439 BlackFedora
nope, that 's a new one.

444 swamprat  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:11:47pm

re: #413 LudwigVanQuixote

Walter, you lying sack of shit, you were the one who first linked the article here. You then went on to comment about a bit of it that you thought contradicted AGW.


Calm. I linked to any article disavowing AGW as the cause of an island sinking.

I did it without rancor or rhetoric.

445 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:12:23pm

Sorry if I missed a previous post on this:

For Hutaree, Web rumor stoked anger at Obama

A member of the Hutaree militia charged with federal crimes was upset because she thought that President Barack Obama had signed into law this month a bill that would spend $20 billion to help the terrorist group Hamas settle in the U.S.

446 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:12:35pm

re: #438 austin_blue

Maybe. Would you risk your credit on it? I wouldn't. Yes, it's a pain in the ass, but I've got a guy I work with who spent three months in legal hell fighting his bank and investment groups after he became the victim of identity theft. Nip it in the bud when there is any indication that your firewall has been breached. better safe than an ulcer.

I know this virus and have posted instructions on how to remove it, also, she is out only the cost of the phony program, which she can charge back.

But let's all ignore the actual solution and just panic and make wild statements.

447 austin_blue  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:13:30pm

re: #440 Bagua

I'll have another glass of the Glenlivet please.

Actually, I'm having a wee dram of Bowmore before bedtime. This thread is going off the rails and I bid you all adieu and Sweet Dreams.

448 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:13:39pm

re: #437 Querent

hmm... when that can of spray paint gets pulled out, there's quite a lot of lizards who should go eff off in a corner.

What, we've killed all the trolls, so now we're going cannibal on each other?

In light of The Masters Golf tourney, par for the course for LVQ. Tread lightly, or you too shall be called a name

449 Mich-again  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:13:58pm

re: #445 negativ
Maybe we should make a federal crime out of mass forwarding bullshit e-mails. I wouldn't mind that one bit.

450 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:14:09pm

re: #435 Walter L. Newton

Prove it... now you are already shifting your statement. Lier.

Walter, I am not going to spend my evening going through the volumes of your posts looking for it. I remember what I remember.

If you notice what I originally wrote:

You should have not fallen for that. Walter will now link to some article that he thinks dispute the cause of its disappearance due to AGW.

But I can hope that I am wrong about Walter's intentions here. If so I will happily be wrong.

You could have just claimed that was not your intent. That would have been that. However your vociferous mock outrage seems to indicate that I pissed on your planned "coup."

While we are at it, I wouldn't have written that in the first place if I didn't have a clear memory of your other posts on the topic. So no baby baby, you are caught and take you mock indignation elsewhere.

451 ryannon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:14:30pm

re: #447 austin_blue

Actually, I'm having a wee dram of Bowmore before bedtime. This thread is going off the rails and I bid you all adieu and Sweet Dreams.

Islay single malt! Nothing like it.

452 swamprat  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:14:35pm

Calm gentelmen. You too, Walter!

453 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:14:43pm

re: #437 Querent

hmm... when that can of spray paint gets pulled out, there's quite a lot of lizards who should go eff off in a corner.

What, we've killed all the trolls, so now we're going cannibal on each other?

Nah Satt is a special case of troll. He's not dead yet .

455 swamprat  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:15:10pm

re: #450 LudwigVanQuixote
I confess!

456 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:15:12pm

re: #448 sattv4u2

In light of The Masters Golf tourney, par for the course for LVQ. Tread lightly, or you too shall be called a name


i'd be amazed to be noticed, frankly -- i usually contribute the levity and the late-night baked goods. those aren't usually fight fodder.

457 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:15:20pm

re: #389 marjoriemoon

I think he's busy lol

You tart - if you wouldn't keep avoiding me, I wouldn't be so busy, would I?

458 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:15:52pm

re: #445 negativ

Sorry if I missed a previous post on this:

For Hutaree, Web rumor stoked anger at Obama

Yipes. It's a family affair with that one, I think. There's a male "Stone" and a "Stone Jr" in the group if I recall.

459 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:16:05pm

re: #431 Walter L. Newton

I asked about the island because I knew nothing about it, nothing more than I had heard about some island and rising sea levels. I was asking you because I thought you would know about it and could offer me some insight to the situation.

.

Bogus, you know as well as I do that in one episode the Island is below the sea, while on the alternate time frame the plot continues. Must I link to your prior posts proving you know this?

re: #447 austin_blue

Actually, I'm having a wee dram of Bowmore before bedtime. This thread is going off the rails and I bid you all adieu and Sweet Dreams.

:)

I'm sticking with the Gin for tonight myself.

460 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:16:20pm

re: #452 swamprat

Calm gentelmen. You too, Walter!

Youtube Video
461 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:16:43pm

re: #457 Cato the Elder

You tart - if you wouldn't keep avoiding me, I wouldn't be so busy, would I?

Smile when you say "tart", son.

462 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:16:52pm

re: #444 swamprat

Calm. I linked to any article disavowing AGW as the cause of an island sinking.

I did it without rancor or rhetoric.

OK and he commented on it at the very least. If it was you and not him who posted it, I withdraw my statement that he linked it. But I really do have a memory of him linking it too.

But the real point is he would not be so upset if I hadn't have disrupted his attempted "gotcha."

463 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:17:02pm

re: #450 LudwigVanQuixote

You could have just claimed that was not your intent. That would have been that. However your vociferous mock outrage seems to indicate that I pissed on your planned "coup."

While we are at it, I wouldn't have written that in the first place if I didn't have a clear memory of your other posts on the topic. So no baby baby, you are caught and take you mock indignation elsewhere.

You lied, that's all there is to it. You've never had any problem of back-linking to comments, statement and articles when you want to make a point... and now you are deflecting and changing the whole tone and tenor of what you said above... really stop it, it makes you look really bad.

464 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:17:26pm

re: #447 austin_blue

Actually, I'm having a wee dram of Bowmore before bedtime. This thread is going off the rails and I bid you all adieu and Sweet Dreams.


this thread was about Ron Paul fans -- ergo, it was already off the rails out of the roundhouse.

465 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:17:35pm

re: #451 ryannon

Islay single malt! Nothing like it.

Something tells me I should look you up next time I'm in Paris.

466 Lidane  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:17:41pm

OT, but there's more shock and awe for Caribou Barbie's show on Fox:

Toby Keith joins LL Cool J in shock at being used for Palin’s Fox News show

Fox News has been promoting Sarah Palin’s first episode of “Real American Stories,” set to air on Thursday, with “In Their Own Words” segments featuring celebrities talking about their lives. Last night on Twitter, rapper LL Cool J objected to being included in the show, saying that Fox was “misrepresenting” one of his interviews from 2008 (which was not conducted by Palin). LL Cool J’s spokesperson said that the interview “was being repurposed without LL’s permission.” Fox ended up cutting LL Cool J’s interview out of Palin’s show. Now, country singer Toby Keith, another person featured in the “In Their Own Words” segments, is also upset at being caught off guard:

In a telephone interview on Wednesday, Elaine Schock, a publicist for Mr. Keith said: “I have no idea what interview they are using. Toby’s talked to Fox a number of times, and I had no idea that this was going to be on Sarah Palin’s special. Fox has never contacted me — not now, not when they were putting this together, not at all. I have no idea what they’re using.” [...]

In a subsequent email message, Ms. Schock said that the interview with Mr. Keith likely happened in early 2009. Asked if Mr. Keith was ever interviewed by Ms. Palin, Ms. Schock said, “Absolutely not.”

A Fox News executive is claiming that the network e-mailed Schock on Monday “to report our show is finally going to air,” but Schock says she never received the message. “The last email I have from them is from January, 2009,” she said, adding, “I’m not saying Fox did not email me. Maybe they spelled my name wrong. I’m just saying I never got an email or a phone call from them.”

Uh...oops?

467 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:17:44pm

re: #453 LudwigVanQuixote

Nah Satt is a special case of troll. He's not dead yet .


{sigh}
Anyone know where I read this!?!?

Comments that advocate violence will be cause for immediate banning with no appeal

468 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:18:41pm

re: #467 sattv4u2


{sigh}
Anyone know where I read this!?!?

Comments that advocate violence will be cause for immediate banning with no appeal

Ohh Satt it was not a treat to you personally. Don't even begin to play that. Anyone want proff you are nothing but a troll, look at that pathetic attempt.

469 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:18:46pm

re: #466 Lidane
and where do they want me to unload this pallet of FAIL??

470 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:19:18pm

re: #468 LudwigVanQuixote

Ohh Satt it was not a treat to you personally

you're right. it was no treat!

471 ryannon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:19:24pm

re: #465 Bagua

Something tells me I should look you up next time I'm in Paris.

Love to see you here: Montparnasse is like my living-room, I'd be happy to make you feel at home in it :-)

472 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:19:25pm

re: #462 LudwigVanQuixote

OK and he commented on it at the very least. If it was you and not him who posted it, I withdraw my statement that he linked it. But I really do have a memory of him linking it too.

But the real point is he would not be so upset if I hadn't have disrupted his attempted "gotcha."

Ludwig you idiot. I wanted some information on this island, I was hoping you (or anyone) could supply the info, or at least a name so I could look it up, and you went off on some stupid rant... I never commented on this anywhere on LGF period.

And you know I didn't.

473 Altermite  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:19:52pm

LVQ, not getting along with you does not make someone a troll.

474 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:20:04pm

re: #463 Walter L. Newton

You lied, that's all there is to it. You've never had any problem of back-linking to comments, statement and articles when you want to make a point... and now you are deflecting and changing the whole tone and tenor of what you said above... really stop it, it makes you look really bad.

So Walter, if you are sooo innocent, why didn't you just say this was not your intent? I would have apologized right there?

Nahh you can have your old man hissy at having your game caught out elsewhere.

As to looking through all your posts, I have more interesting things to do. really.

475 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:20:14pm

re: #473 Altermite

LVQ, not getting along with you does not make someone a troll.

ruh roh ,, NOW you've done it

476 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:20:18pm

re: #439 BlackFedora

There is a rumor going on currently that one of the folks policed up in the Michigan raids was a person who went by the name Pale Horse. His real name is Kristofer Sickles. Apparently Pale Horse was interviewed by one Alex Jones. I remember the interview in question... Jones pretty much accused the guy of being a fed or a patsy. In any event.. if you google Kristofer Sickles you'll find some information about it. This may have come up in comments already.

That's right-- at least, someone calling themselves 'Pale Horse' is in the Hutaree group, and under that name posted loads of videos:
Video: Hutaree militia group posted many popular videos on YouTube before government raids

In the video below a Hutaree militia member who calls himself "Pale Horse" defends his group against criticism from what he calls the "corporate media." According to Talking Points Memo the video was posted last August and "Pale Horse" is actually militia member Kristopher Sickles.



Accused Christian Militia Member Posted Video Last Year: 'I'm Just A Simple Militant ... What's Wrong With That?'

And it now appears that that same militia member -- Kristopher Sickles, who goes by the name of "Pale Horse" -- posted a third video in which he lambasted the "corporate media" for its coverage of the militia movement.
477 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:21:11pm

re: #474 LudwigVanQuixote

So Walter, if you are sooo innocent, why didn't you just say this was not your intent? I would have apologized right there?

Nahh you can have your old man hissy at having your game caught out elsewhere.

As to looking through all your posts, I have more interesting things to do. really.

You lied, plain and simple.

478 ryannon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:21:16pm

re: #471 ryannon

Love to see you here: Montparnasse is like my living-room, I'd be happy to make you feel at home in it :-)

Not to mention sharing a dram or two of some of my really good Islay and Highland nectar.

479 tnguitarist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:21:16pm

I show up to chat and you guys have already put in 500 comments. I'm new around these parts, btw.

480 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:21:18pm

re: #470 sattv4u2

Ohh Satt it was not a treat to you personally

you're right. it was no treat!


and here IS a treat.

:: shoves freshly-frosted cupcakes into both Satt's and Ludwig's mouths, thus preventing them from arguing ::

Now mellow the Hell out, everylizard. This is getting tiresome.

481 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:21:43pm

re: #470 sattv4u2

Ohh Satt it was not a treat to you personally

you're right. it was no treat!

Satt, you are a whiny little troll tool. OK go whine to daddy and see if he thinks that is a threat to your person in context OK?

Really satt. I dare you. Go bug Charles with it.

The biggest difference between me and you about these things is that when people like you give me shit, I don't whine like a sissy.

482 swamprat  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:21:57pm

re: #472 Walter L. Newton I found some info, also, that either the island in question, or a nearby one, had gone down and then seemed to be resurfacing.

483 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:22:01pm

re: #479 tnguitarist

I show up to chat and you guys have already put in 500 comments. I'm new around these parts, btw.

so where's the beer?

484 albusteve  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:22:02pm

re: #473 Altermite

LVQ, not getting along with you does not make someone a troll.


it most certainly does....check the archives for proof

485 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:22:27pm

re: #479 tnguitarist
you snooze, you lose. But there are still cupcakes to go around.

486 tnguitarist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:22:31pm

re: #483 sattv4u2

Jack and Coke. Enjoy.

487 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:23:04pm

re: #482 swamprat

I found some info, also, that either the island in question, or a nearby one, had gone down and then seemed to be resurfacing.

Now that I know the name of the island, I will be able to look up what's been going on. Thanks.

488 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:23:21pm

re: #481 LudwigVanQuixote

Satt, you are a whiny little troll tool. OK go whine to daddy and see if he thinks that is a threat to your person in context OK?

Really satt. I dare you. Go bug Charles with it.

The biggest difference between me and you about these things is that when people like you give me shit, I don't whine like a sissy.

nah ,, you just call them names. REAL adult like, I may add! Swear words, and everything!

489 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:23:25pm

re: #477 Walter L. Newton

You lied, plain and simple.

Prove I lied Walter.

Seriously prove it. Find the thread yourself where the Island was mentioned and link to it. See if you ddi not comment on that Island in teh way I remember.

Go ahead. You want to prove me a liar go and do it.

If my memory is faulty on this, I will apologize.

Though to be honest, the fact that your buddy Bagua was so quick with the link was kind of a dead giveaway.

490 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:23:26pm

re: #461 marjoriemoon

Smile when you say "tart", son.

Of course. "The Queen of Hearts, she made some tarts" and all that.

You little flirt!

491 Altermite  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:24:02pm

re: #484 albusteve

it most certainly does...check the archives for proof

Silence, troll!

/also, assorted vulgarities

492 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:24:21pm

re: #488 sattv4u2

nah ,, you just call them names. REAL adult like, I may add! Swear words, and everything!

Well it has to be admitted that you are, in actuality, a whiny sissy satt.

493 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:24:39pm

re: #483 sattv4u2

so where's the beer?


Pssst, TN, the beer is in the smaller fridge, next to the meat locker where we age the trolls. And some root beer floats would go well with the cupcakes. Get the Henry Weinhart's -- there should still be a six-pack left.

494 tnguitarist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:24:45pm

re: #485 Querent

you snooze, you lose. But there are still cupcakes to go around.

I do enjoy a good cupcake.

495 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:24:53pm

re: #480 Querent

and here IS a treat.

:: shoves freshly-frosted cupcakes into both Satt's and Ludwig's mouths, thus preventing them from arguing ::

Now mellow the Hell out, everylizard. This is getting tiresome.

great ,, THATS what we need ,,, a sugar rush!

496 swamprat  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:25:23pm

re: #487 Walter L. Newton

I think I did a search using the name of the island and "blamed on", in quotes.

497 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:25:41pm

re: #492 LudwigVanQuixote

Well it has to be admitted that you are, in actuality, a whiny sissy satt.

come closer to the monitor so I can hit you with my purse

498 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:25:54pm

re: #495 sattv4u2

great ,, THATS what we need ,,, a sugar rush!


damned tootin, Satt, if there's gonna be friendly fire on this thread, it's gonna be hyped-up John-Woo-Style friendly fire.

499 tnguitarist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:26:19pm

re: #493 Querent

Pssst, TN, the beer is in the smaller fridge, next to the meat locker where we age the trolls. And some root beer floats would go well with the cupcakes. Get the Henry Weinhart's -- there should still be a six-pack left.

Not a beer guy. (covers head) You can keep the root beer, too.

500 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:26:26pm

re: #497 sattv4u2

come closer to the monitor so I can hit you with my purse

OK now that was funny! upding.

501 albusteve  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:27:12pm

re: #491 Altermite

Silence, troll!

/also, assorted vulgarities

I'm not into brawling tonight...the competition is just too soft

502 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:28:32pm

re: #497 sattv4u2

dammit satt quit making me laugh so hard; 'cause i upding every snappy comeback that makes me laugh and that might make some folks accuse me of favoritism...

(then again, i give updings for anything that makes me chuckle. Even if i don't agree with the entire post. LGF is my antidote for politically-induced stress!)

503 tnguitarist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:28:48pm

Ugh. They're going to turn this in to a free speech issue. That shouldn't cause any more problems, right?

504 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:28:54pm

Did someone call for vulgarities?

Let's all laugh at this and chill out:

Jon Stewart Talks RNC At Bondage-Themed Strip Club: '2 Girls, 1 GOP'
vid at link.

505 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:29:03pm

re: #478 ryannon

Not to mention sharing a dram or two of some of my really good Islay and Highland nectar.

Fantastic!

I worked Saint-Germain-des-Prés as a youth, back when the world was young and death was but a dream. It remains permanently imprinted in my heart.

506 windsagio  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:29:10pm

re: #502 Querent

what? Satt is being funny? I came in at just the right time for a 1/1000000 experience!!

507 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:29:38pm

re: #489 LudwigVanQuixote

Prove I lied Walter.

Seriously prove it. Find the thread yourself where the Island was mentioned and link to it. See if you ddi not comment on that Island in teh way I remember.

Go ahead. You want to prove me a liar go and do it.

If my memory is faulty on this, I will apologize.

Though to be honest, the fact that your buddy Bagua was so quick with the link was kind of a dead giveaway.

Ludwig, I will say this one more time, and that's it. I didn't even know the name of the island before a while ago. I didn't even know where the island was (is, isn't) until a while ago. I never even read an article on this island until a while ago. The only bit of information I had was something I heard on NPR, someone was talking about some island, and the fact that it disappeared. I didn't catch anymore of the story, I was not really even listening to the story closely.

I saw you on this thread tonight (I wasn't even on the thread until about 9:00 mountain time, and I remembered I had heard something, I though you would have more info.

You're the one that stated treating me like shit, telling me I already commented on this, linked to it and that I already knew the story.

That's what YOU said, it's a lie. Period.

And what the fuck do I have to do with what Bagua posts?

508 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:29:56pm

re: #506 windsagio
yes you did. now sit down and have a cupcake.

509 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:30:03pm

re: #500 LudwigVanQuixote

OK now that was funny! upding.

Dial yourself back. You'll be better off for it

Lets not forget, this all started because I called you out for (again) calling people names. So what do you do in response? Call MORE people MORE names

You've been told this before, by many here as well as Charles. You'll be taken more sweriously if (when) you knock that off

510 albusteve  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:30:12pm

re: #503 tnguitarist

Ugh. They're going to turn this in to a free speech issue. That shouldn't cause any more problems, right?

predictable....in fact I did, months ago....this sort of thing is all gonna come crashing down on the 1st Amendment

511 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:30:17pm

re: #487 Walter L. Newton

Now that I know the name of the island, I will be able to look up what's been going on. Thanks.

Well hurry up, there are only 7 episodes left and I'm relying on you for comprehension.

512 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:31:13pm

re: #506 windsagio

what? Satt is being funny? I came in at just the right time for a 1/1000000 experience!!

Don't worry. With the new "free health care" you can have a funny bone installed

513 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:31:35pm

re: #506 windsagio

what? Satt is being funny? I came in at just the right time for a 1/1000000 experience!!

Hey, you never answered my question to you earlier this afternoon. Why did you ever think that I didn't need to work? I left you a long explanation as to my situation and the fact that I do have to work and have obligations. I didn't understand why you assumed that I didn't need to work?

514 windsagio  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:31:42pm

re: #512 sattv4u2

That was almost a good zinger >> almost.

515 Racer X  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:31:49pm

re: #507 Walter L. Newton

And what the fuck do I have to do with what Bagua posts?

You all look alike.

;-)

516 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:32:13pm

re: #466 Lidane

OT, but there's more shock and awe for Caribou Barbie's show on Fox:

Toby Keith joins LL Cool J in shock at being used for Palin’s Fox News show

Uh...oops?

The Queen of Tarts
She popped some farts
All on a summer's eve.

The Knave of Hearts
He smelt those farts
And dared to cry "Agrieve!"

The King of Tarts
Renounced those farts
And called for his shysters twelve:

Who all agreed
With all due speed
Those farts, they must be quelled!

Copyright 2010 Cato the Elder.

517 windsagio  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:32:22pm

re: #513 Walter L. Newton

Oh, I had to go, so I missed it.

Dunno just got that impression somehow. If I was wrong, and it was somehow offensive, I apologize :P

518 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:32:46pm

re: #514 windsagio

That was almost a good zinger >> almost.

if only it were directed at someone else

ftfy

519 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:33:02pm

re: #511 Bagua

Well hurry up, there are only 7 episodes left and I'm relying on you for comprehension.

Bagua... I really don't find any humor in your "fiegned" confusion over the island on the LOST TV show and my other questions about the island that disappeared. You're just adding to the confusion right now. Please don't.

520 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:33:31pm

re: #279 Spare O'Lake

Chechnya has been Muslim since the time it was part of the Ottoman Empire. It was conquered by Russia in the 1790's.
In other words, it has been Islamic all the way.
But if you and others want to pretend that Islam has nothing to do with the conflict then go ahead and knock yourselves out.

Islam has become a factor in the conflict, but the idea that somehow Islam is the root cause of the Chechen conflict is incorrect.

521 windsagio  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:33:43pm

re: #514 windsagio

That would have been a good zinger if it were directed at someone I don't like..


Dude, Satt... you don't even konw how to FiX posts right, I had to insult myself to set you straight!

522 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:34:24pm

re: #520 SanFranciscoZionist

Islam has become a factor in the conflict, but the idea that somehow Islam is the root cause of the Chechen conflict is incorrect.

more like Islam is insult, added to the old injury.

523 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:34:37pm

re: #517 windsagio

Oh, I had to go, so I missed it.

Dunno just got that impression somehow. If I was wrong, and it was somehow offensive, I apologize :P

No, I wasn't mad or anything like that. Part of your comment was a compliment and I thanked you for that. But the part about me working even though I didn't have to was not accurate, and I just wondered if I had given anyone that impression.

There's no problem, I was just curious.

524 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:34:37pm

re: #507 Walter L. Newton

Ludwig, I will say this one more time, and that's it. I didn't even know the name of the island before a while ago. I didn't even know where the island was (is, isn't) until a while ago. I never even read an article on this island until a while ago. The only bit of information I had was something I heard on NPR, someone was talking about some island, and the fact that it disappeared. I didn't catch anymore of the story, I was not really even listening to the story closely.

I saw you on this thread tonight (I wasn't even on the thread until about 9:00 mountain time, and I remembered I had heard something, I though you would have more info.

You're the one that stated treating me like shit, telling me I already commented on this, linked to it and that I already knew the story.

That's what YOU said, it's a lie. Period.

And what the fuck do I have to do with what Bagua posts?

Walter, please. If my memory of this, which is rather strong is faulty I apologize. For the sake of peace, that thread had a lot of people posting a lot of stuff and I will hold out the possibility (not that I really think it is the case) that I misremembered and falsely attributed this to you.

But I am very surprised that if this were the case, you would have reacted in such a hissy over my original mild post over this. I said right there that if I was wrong about your intentions, I would be happy to be wrong.

I think you are lying and getting pissed at being caught while being clumsy. That really is what I think. I am sorry if I am wrong.

525 windsagio  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:35:16pm

re: #523 Walter L. Newton

I'll look it up :D

526 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:36:00pm

re: #524 LudwigVanQuixote

Walter, please. If my memory of this, which is rather strong is faulty I apologize. For the sake of peace, that thread had a lot of people posting a lot of stuff and I will hold out the possibility (not that I really think it is the case) that I misremembered and falsely attributed this to you.

But I am very surprised that if this were the case, you would have reacted in such a hissy over my original mild post over this. I said right there that if I was wrong about your intentions, I would be happy to be wrong.

I think you are lying and getting pissed at being caught while being clumsy. That really is what I think. I am sorry if I am wrong.

Thank you for the non-apology. I accept.

527 bratwurst  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:36:33pm

re: #520 SanFranciscoZionist

Islam has become a factor in the conflict, but the idea that somehow Islam is the root cause of the Chechen conflict is incorrect.

Bear in mind you are dealing with someone who stated one of his primary concerns about the current Catholic abuse scandal is the propaganda victory it hands to radical Islam. He might be a little...um...overly focused.

528 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:36:34pm

re: #525 windsagio

I'll look it up :D

Really, that's ok... like I said, I'm not upset or offended or anything like that.

529 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:36:55pm

re: #519 Walter L. Newton

Bagua... I really don't find any humor in your "fiegned" confusion over the island on the LOST TV show and my other questions about the island that disappeared. You're just adding to the confusion right now. Please don't.

Sorry, just trying to be funny. I shall say no more on the subject.

530 windsagio  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:37:09pm

re: #527 bratwurst

See, thats a zinger!

531 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:38:03pm

re: #529 Bagua

Sorry, just trying to be funny. I shall say no more on the subject.

Thanks.

532 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:39:02pm

And I have a whole day of training tomorrow, cram course so to speak, so, I'm off to bed.

533 Eclectic Infidel  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:39:16pm

This may have been discussed already. What does "hutaree" mean?

534 swamprat  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:39:18pm

re: #500 LudwigVanQuixote

re: #519 Walter L. Newton

Ok gents. Link this. This is what I posted. It's long, so I won't post it here. It is pastes, not my comments.

535 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:39:27pm

re: #529 Bagua

Sorry, just trying to be funny make Querent laugh so I'd get updings for wit**. I shall say no more on the subject.

** but really, this thread was in dire need of some comic relief.

536 ryannon  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:39:33pm

re: #505 Bagua

Fantastic!

I worked Saint-Germain-des-Prés as a youth, back when the world was young and death was but a dream. It remains permanently imprinted in my heart.

I'm quite serious about the invitation - don't hesitate to let me know if you're coming over.

537 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:41:30pm

re: #536 ryannon

I'm quite serious about the invitation - don't hesitate to let me know if you're coming over.

Merci Bien, I shall indeed look forward to this event!

538 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:43:06pm

re: #521 windsagio

Dude, Satt... you don't even konw how to FiX posts right, I had to insult myself to set you straight!

GGAAAHHH ,,, my sensitivities ,, AGAIN

When did I become Spicoli!?!?!

539 windsagio  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:43:34pm

re: #538 sattv4u2

I call chicks dude, toughen up!!

540 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:44:00pm

re: #534 swamprat

I'm pretty sure there was an earlier thread than that which discussed this.

But. I will happily for the sake of peace say sure Walter is innocent.

541 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:44:06pm

re: #539 windsagio

I call chicks dude, toughen up!!

Has nothing to do with toughness

Has to do with vintage!

542 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:44:58pm

re: #503 tnguitarist

Ugh. They're going to turn this in to a free speech issue. That shouldn't cause any more problems, right?

Good luck with that. They're accused of a helluva lot more than 'speech'. From your link:

Michael Rataj, attorney for Tina Stone, told CNN he heard no evidence of any crime being committed. "This is going to be a free-speech case," he said.

"Our client adamantly denies his involvement in any plot to overthrow the government or to use violence for any unlawful purpose," said Mark Satawa, attorney for Meeks. "He looks forward to being vindicated by the criminal justice system."

David Brian Stone Sr.'s attorney, William W. Swor, said the government had shown only that his client had talked.

"It's legal to speak out in America, it's legal to have opinions in America, it's legal to assemble with people in America," he told CNN. "The government has to show more than that, and if they don't, you can be sure that we'll hold them to their obligations."

Federal authorities charged the nine Hutaree militia members in connection with the alleged plot on Monday. The group says on its Web site that Hutaree means "Christian warrior" and proclaims on its home page, "Preparing for the end time battles to keep the testimony of Jesus Christ alive."

The nine have been charged with seditious conspiracy, attempted use of weapons of mass destruction, teaching the use of explosive materials and possessing a firearm during a crime of violence.

543 windsagio  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:45:10pm

re: #541 sattv4u2

How about 'be a jolly sport then'? I think I'd break if I coudln't use that term >>

544 Racer X  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:45:12pm

A guy is walking down the street and sees Little Johnny smoking a cigarette. He says, "Kid, you're too young to smoke." Johnny looks up but doesn't say anything. The man asks, "Son, how old are you?" Little Johnny says, "Six."

Stunned, the man says, "Six!? When did you start smoking?"
Johnny replies, "Right after the first time I had sex." "Right after the first time you had sex? When was that?" Little Johnny answers, "I don't remember. I was drunk!

545 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:45:45pm

re: #543 windsagio

How about 'be a jolly sport then'? I think I'd break if I coudln't use that term >>

you'll grow out of it (hopefully)

546 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:46:14pm

re: #489 LudwigVanQuixote

Prove I lied Walter.

Seriously prove it. Find the thread yourself where the Island was mentioned and link to it. See if you ddi not comment on that Island in teh way I remember.

Go ahead. You want to prove me a liar go and do it.

If my memory is faulty on this, I will apologize.

Though to be honest, the fact that your buddy Bagua was so quick with the link was kind of a dead giveaway.

Why are baiting me Ludwig? I've not said one word to, or about you, or anything you have said in this thread.

547 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:46:50pm

re: #546 Bagua

Why are baiting me Ludwig? I've not said one word to, or about you, or anything you have said in this thread.

actually you are right. let's let it drop.

548 windsagio  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:46:51pm

re: #546 Bagua

you guys are all so eager to be at each others throats, and comin' from me that's really somethin' :p

549 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:48:17pm

re: #547 LudwigVanQuixote

actually you are right. let's let it drop.

Cool with me, let's keep it that way.

550 windsagio  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:49:01pm

so yeah, now we need a new subject.

551 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:49:35pm

re: #550 windsagio

so yeah, now we need a new subject.

yeah. militia crazy is already getting old.

552 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:50:24pm

Whack, whack, whack.
Hurt, pain.
Whack, whack, whack.
Hurt, pain.
Lather, rinse repeat.
Why do SOME of you think this is fun?
It's not.

553 Racer X  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:51:12pm

Heh

Youtube Video
554 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:51:26pm

re: #548 windsagio

you guys are all so eager to be at each others throats, and comin' from me that's really somethin' :p

Piss off, we are neither of us at each others throats this thread, nor on any recent thread.

555 windsagio  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:52:06pm

hrm.

556 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:52:43pm

re: #550 windsagio

so yeah, now we need a new subject.

Did we make fun of the Hutaree 'ranks' yet? h/t Balloon Juice:

RANKS:
RADOK [RD]
BORAMANDER [BM]
ZULIF [ZL]
ARKON [AK]
GOLD RIFLEMAN [GR]
SILVER RIFLEMAN [SR]
BRONZE RIFLEMAN [BR]
LUKORE [LK]
MASTER GUNNER [MG]
SENIOR GUNNER [SG]
GUNNER [GN]

I think this may be an example of the post-wingnut mythology we’ve discussed before. It’s part Dungeons and Dragons, part Finnegans Wake, part modern corporatese (I like that “Senior Gunner” is the second-lowest rank).

Ok, that's militia-mocking, James Joyce, D&D and assorted gaming. Go forth and discuss any and all. Jimmah and I are gettin' drunk.

557 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:54:01pm

re: #556 iceweasel

Ok, that's militia-mocking, James Joyce, D&D and assorted gaming. Go forth and discuss any and all. Jimmah and I are gettin' drunk.

Hey,... as a lifelong AD&D player i resemble that remark...

558 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:54:53pm

and don't forget the made-up words -- part Battlefield Earth.

559 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:55:22pm

Well, I'm out of wine. Goodnight, all!

Try the veal, and don't forget to tip your waitress.

Next up: The Early Morning Mandy Show†, wherein your hostess, Mandy Mannerless, will fill you in on all the news Charles is deliberately withholding from you!

I usually skip it, myself, in favor of rereading old John le Carré spy novels.

Suit yourselves.

†And associated wingnuts

560 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:55:39pm

oh ,,, joy

just found a huge hornets nest inside the feed assembly of a satellite dish I have to use in several hours

next you see of me, i may be a tad bumpy!

BBL

561 windsagio  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:56:00pm

re: #560 sattv4u2

Ewww! Good luck!

562 What, me worry?  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:57:20pm

re: #556 iceweasel

Clearly, I play different games. Usually involving elves and dwarves and such.

563 tnguitarist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:57:38pm

Everyone, don't get mad.

564 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:58:22pm

good idea. time to crawl back in the lair and hibernate.

Windsagio, you've got the comm, and if anybody gives you a ration of shit, throw a cupcake at 'em. Or shove it down their gaping craw and make 'em sweeten up. Whatever.

565 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:58:27pm

re: #559 Cato the Elder

Well, I'm out of wine. Goodnight, all!

Try the veal, and don't forget to tip your waitress.

Next up: The Early Morning Mandy Show†, wherein your hostess, Mandy Mannerless, will fill you in on all the news Charles is deliberately withholding from you!

I usually skip it, myself, in favor of rereading old John le Carré spy novels.

Suit yourselves.

†And associated wingnuts

Yes, let's not miss an opportunity to bait a fellow Lizard who isn't even here.

Or is this a case of infatuation? Hostility and love are so oft entwined.

566 tnguitarist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:58:45pm

re: #560 sattv4u2

oh ,,, joy

just found a huge hornets nest inside the feed assembly of a satellite dish I have to use in several hours

next you see of me, i may be a tad bumpy!

BBL

I fought them all last summer. Those guys are no joke. They were attacking our house at night when we turned any lights on.

567 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:58:53pm

re: #522 Querent

more like Islam is insult, added to the old injury.

I can't help but think that if the world had taken more interest in dialing down the conflict, there would have been far less fertile ground for Islamist ideology to take root.

Maybe that's wishful thinking.

568 Altermite  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:59:07pm

re: #557 Querent

Hey,... as a lifelong AD&D player i resemble that remark...

One might say that is how you roll

569 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:59:43pm

re: #568 Altermite

One might say that is how you roll

for those about to roll, we salute you!

570 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:59:54pm

re: #533 eclectic infidel

This may have been discussed already. What does "hutaree" mean?

"Christian warrior", in their made-up language. No roots in real languages have been suggested that I know yet.

Was good to see you in real life!

571 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:00:04pm

re: #557 Querent

Hey,... as a lifelong AD&D player i resemble that remark...

Hey, no offense intended! Jimmah and I both played a lot of D&D....he made me this little video for my birthday last year based on Fallout 3 (well, and some wingnut iceweasel haters):

Youtube Video

From now on, Jimmah would like to be referred to as Arkon Jimmah, in homage to Hutaree.

572 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:01:18pm

re: #571 iceweasel

From now on, Jimmah would like to be referred to as Arkon Jimmah, in homage to Hutaree.

that works. and I'm the Warlord, and don't anylizard forget it.

573 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:02:36pm

re: #571 iceweasel

Hey, no offense intended! Jimmah and I both played a lot of D&D...he made me this little video for my birthday last year based on Fallout 3 (well, and some wingnut iceweasel haters):


[Video]

From now on, Jimmah would like to be referred to as Arkon Jimmah, in homage to Hutaree.

Only if Cato is the Heirophant and I am the Magician! You can be an elf princess were-weasel!

574 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:03:49pm

re: #573 LudwigVanQuixote

Only if Cato is the Heirophant and I am the Magician! You can be an elf princess were-weasel!


so does that make Charles the Dungeon Master? this is after all his dungeon we're prowling around in.

575 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:04:04pm

Elmo gets it.

MP3 Audio

- Cute little Elmo
576 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:06:45pm

re: #570 SanFranciscoZionist

"Christian warrior", in their made-up language. No roots in real languages have been suggested that I know yet.

Ranks right up there with "Souljah" on the authenticity scale.

I got this envelope from FailEx, who's the bozo who's got to sign for this one...

577 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:07:43pm

re: #573 LudwigVanQuixote

Only if Cato is the Heirophant and I am the Magician! You can be an elf princess were-weasel!

I'll be a were-weasel, and don't care about the princess gig-- must be something bitey and fierce in battle, though. ;)

578 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:08:02pm

re: #576 Querent

"Christian warrior", in their made-up language. No roots in real languages have been suggested that I know yet.

Ranks right up there with "Souljah" on the authenticity scale.

I got this envelope from FailEx, who's the bozo who's got to sign for this one...

Well, 'Souljah' is actually kind of clever. "Hutaree" is just...bizarre.

579 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:08:15pm

re: #577 iceweasel

I'll be a were-weasel, and don't care about the princess gig-- must be something bitey and fierce in battle, though. ;)

War-Weasel?

580 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:08:47pm

re: #577 iceweasel
i had an evil ranger with a Dire Weasel for an Animal Sidekick once.

The weasel was named "Chirac"...

581 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:08:56pm

re: #574 Querent

so does that make Charles the Dungeon Master? this is after all his dungeon we're prowling around in.

My guess is that it makes him exhausted.

Seriously, policing this place has to be like herding cats. Cats ridden by screaming toddlers. Screaming, armed toddlers.

582 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:09:59pm

re: #565 Bagua

Yes, let's not miss an opportunity to bait a fellow Lizard who isn't even here

What, pray, does "fellow Lizard" mean? Coverup? Backup? Undying fealty?

As for "isn't even here", I'll take her on, in person, any time day or night.

So what's your panty-twist about it?

583 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:11:08pm

re: #580 Querent

i had an evil ranger with a Dire Weasel for an Animal Sidekick once.

The weasel was named "Chirac"...

I had an evil ranger character once!
Mostly preferred Chaotic Neutral as my alignment, though. Art imitates life.

Ok, Arkon Jimmah and I are out for more debauchery. Have fun, lizards!

584 Querent  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:12:11pm

re: #583 iceweasel

well then, thanks for sharing and take some cupcakes to go. Then again, just take the frosting. And don't tell us what you did with it.

585 Eclectic Infidel  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:12:50pm

re: #570 SanFranciscoZionist


Was good to see you in real life!

Likewise. I dig your personality.

586 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:15:39pm

re: #582 Cato the Elder

What, pray, does "fellow Lizard" mean? Coverup? Backup? Undying fealty?

As for "isn't even here", I'll take her on, in person, any time day or night.

So what's your panty-twist about it?

My use of lacerta in this context signifies a fellow forum member, as is the common usage here.

The "panty-twist" in this instance appears to be yours, my comment was ironic.

587 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:16:30pm

re: #585 eclectic infidel

Likewise. I dig your personality.

Why, thank you! Ditto!

588 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:22:05pm

Gal Over Gun

MP3 Audio
589 swamprat  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:24:06pm

re: #582 Cato the Elder

That's uh, brave.

590 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:28:39pm

re: #589 swamprat

That's uh, brave.

Youtube Video
591 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:29:41pm

re: #577 iceweasel

I'll be a were-weasel, and don't care about the princess gig-- must be something bitey and fierce in battle, though. ;)

That's (if we're being Tolkienically correct here) wer-weasel.

Like wer-wolf. The extra "e" is only for putzes.

It means merely a "human" + [wolf/weasel/stoat/gecko/worm/rose].

"Wer" is OE masculine, but general, as in Latin "vir" and German "man". You could take it to be sexist, but then of course you'd be a bitch-weasel. Lucretia exhibited all the virtus of a vir.

By the by, the cognate incidence of OE "wer" and Latin "vir" is one of the best pieces of evidence we have that Latin "v" is really "w" - a soft, or, if you will, "feminine", pronunciation.

Long live the feline/feminine alongside the castrating Catonian.

moriturus te salutat

592 swamprat  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:31:32pm

re: #590 Bagua

Here's one

Youtube Video
593 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:33:29pm

re: #586 Bagua

My use of lacerta in this context signifies a fellow forum member, as is the common usage here.

The "panty-twist" in this instance appears to be yours, my comment was ironic.

"Ironic"?

Apparently you still need schooling in the meaning of the word.

Youtube Video
594 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:35:27pm

re: #593 Cato the Elder

"Ironic"?

Apparently you still need schooling in the meaning of the word.


[Video]

Cato, I get that you have a some animus for Mandy, but even I tend to shoot only when shot at.

595 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:35:35pm

re: #593 Cato the Elder

"Ironic"?

Apparently you still need schooling in the meaning of the word.


[Video]

Ha! I thought baiting you with 'ironic' would have been transparent to you old boy!

596 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:36:41pm

re: #591 Cato the Elder

That's (if we're being Tolkienically correct here) wer-weasel.

Like wer-wolf. The extra "e" is only for putzes.

It means merely a "human" + [wolf/weasel/stoat/gecko/worm/rose].

"Wer" is OE masculine, but general, as in Latin "vir" and German "man". You could take it to be sexist, but then of course you'd be a bitch-weasel. Lucretia exhibited all the virtus of a vir.

By the by, the cognate incidence of OE "wer" and Latin "vir" is one of the best pieces of evidence we have that Latin "v" is really "w" - a soft, or, if you will, "feminine", pronunciation.

Long live the feline/feminine alongside the castrating Catonian.

moriturus te salutat

The extra e is the proper D&D spelling so I will forgive your pedantic correction since you were never cool enough to roll with us ;)

597 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:38:41pm

I'm particularly tired of the whinge about "you're slagging on someone who isn't even here".

Whoever isn't here right now can come back tomorrow and respond. That's what undeleted posts are for.

So don't anyone get all humpy about comments directed to a currently non-present Lizard. Every Lizard must look after itself.

(Or what's conservatism for?)

598 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:43:59pm

re: #597 Cato the Elder


So don't anyone get all humpy about comments directed to a currently non-present Lizard. Every Lizard must look after itself.

(Or what's conservatism for?)


Dear me, must I school you on the meaning of that word? Surely you mean frumpy!

599 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:44:20pm

re: #594 LudwigVanQuixote

Cato, I get that you have a some animus for Mandy, but even I tend to shoot only when shot at.

re: #596 LudwigVanQuixote

The extra e is the proper D&D spelling so I will forgive your pedantic correction since you were never cool enough to roll with us ;)

Sorry, after getting told what to do with a rope more than a dozen times, I tend to shoot first, often, and ask questions later.

As for D&D, never in my life have I managed a set of dice without fumbling them. I've been thrown out of the best casinos in the land.

Why i only play Blackjane.

600 swamprat  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:45:19pm
Youtube Video
601 swamprat  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:47:01pm
Youtube Video

english

602 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:48:30pm

re: #599 Cato the Elder

Evil Devil Woman Blues

MP3 Audio

- Joe McCoy (A possible alias for Cato the Elder?)
603 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:50:19pm

From FSTDT: It appears that God has gone into dentistry. (Via Free Republic)

AT I-HOP—INTERNATIONAL HOUSE OF PRAYER KANSAS CITY this past week . . .

God began touching folks’ teeth.

And one fellow had a full set of dentures . . . and they suddenly began to feel uncomfortable like there was something under them. He took them out and soon found he had a whole set of teeth growing in. I think they grew in fully before the evening was over.

I could stand that!

Once in a church 35 years or so ago I was standing next to a friend in the sound booth during a visiting evangelist’s ministering . . . teeth being one of the things that tended to be touched in his services. And my friend starts feeling a spot turn warm in his mouth just like the evangelist warned about. So he went to the men’s room to check and sure enough—there was a new filling and he didn’t even know he needed one.

The evangelist said he had no idea why God filled some with gold, some silver and some just got new teeth.

Interesting . . . sounds like God’s humor, to me.

604 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:52:29pm

re: #583 iceweasel

I had an evil ranger character once!
Mostly preferred Chaotic Neutral as my alignment, though. Art imitates life.

Ok, Arkon Jimmah and I are out for more debauchery. Have fun, lizards!

I always tend to play characters who are more or less virtuous, but incredibly impulsive and prone to getting in trouble or running off and doing their own thing. Renegade cops who play by their own rules!

/GURPS forever

605 freetoken  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:52:41pm

re: #603 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh yeah... the dental evangelists.

If God doesn't belong to the ADA, does that mean insurance companies won't cover the donations at the service?

606 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:54:14pm

re: #604 WindUpBird

I always tend to play characters who are more or less virtuous, but incredibly impulsive and prone to getting in trouble or running off and doing their own thing. Renegade cops who play by their own rules!

/GURPS forever

Most interesting... and how old were you when you first noticed this proclivity Ms Bird?

607 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:54:27pm

re: #591 Cato the Elder

I call them werewolves because I'm A) a cheese-ball horror movie and comic book fan, and B) a furry :D

/Fans of The Howling and Wolfsbane from the New Mutants represent

608 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 10:56:21pm

re: #606 Bagua

Most interesting... and how old were you when you first noticed this proclivity Ms Bird?

About 17. ;-)

I've been gaming since I was 12. I go off the type sometimes (playing an 80 year old half-insane mystic who talks to imaginary floating skulls is a RIOT) but mostly yeah, it's the same thing in different guises. My Tv hero when I was a kid was Michael Knight, so it's pretty easy to see where it comes from.

609 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 11:00:55pm

re: #597 Cato the Elder

I'm particularly tired of the whinge about "you're slagging on someone who isn't even here".

I agree wholeheartedly with this.

My first experience with flamewars were BBSes whe I was a teenager. Where only one person can call at a time, they post, then they disconnect their modem connection. Then the next guy calls. So only one person is ever "here" at a time.

And the most epic arguments Ive ever been involved with were Livejournal, which notifys you my email when someone responds to your message. But on LJ, there's no way to determine who's "on", it's not like Charles' code, it's a much more passive system, open source, real simple threaded message code.

610 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 11:04:55pm

re: #608 WindUpBird

Fascinating, I had never really thought much about the significance of which roles one chooses in such a game. Makes sense, just like identifying with the various archetypes in Lord of The Rings would reveal insight in my generation. (I of course self-identified with the Uruk-hai)

611 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 11:08:54pm

Okay ,, that wasn't as bad as it could have been

612 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 11:10:39pm

re: #611 sattv4u2

Okay ,, that wasn't as bad as it could have been

Dispatched them with the spray then?

613 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 11:11:01pm

re: #610 Bagua

Fascinating, I had never really thought much about the significance of which roles one chooses in such a game. Makes sense, just like identifying with the various archetypes in Lord of The Rings would reveal insight in my generation. (I of course self-identified with the Uruk-hai)

Well, we're talking about role-playing games, the role is everything! It's basically like cooperative storytelling. There's a guy "running" the story, the storyteller, and then there's us players, who all play characters and interact with the plot points and antagonists that the storyteller comes up with. People hamming it up and acting around a table, tossing dice to resolve combats and skill checks.

The way I describe it to my parents, it's like those murder mystery dinners, but more so. More rules, more specifics, more ways to quantify what's happening.

614 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 11:12:28pm

re: #612 Bagua

Dispatched them with the spray then?

Industrial strength bug juice attached to a pressure washer. Took the gloves off a few minutes too early to start putting everything away, and one stray one got me on the back of the hand

615 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 11:14:22pm

re: #601 swamprat

I quite favour the Cambodian version... haunting really.

616 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 11:15:51pm

re: #597 Cato the Elder

I'm particularly tired of the whinge about "you're slagging on someone who isn't even here".

Whoever isn't here right now can come back tomorrow and respond. That's what undeleted posts are for.

So don't anyone get all humpy about comments directed to a currently non-present Lizard. Every Lizard must look after itself.

(Or what's conservatism for?)

I'm actually fine with having a 'rule' about not talking shite about someone who isn't present.
However, I must note that most of those who loudly proclaim the virtues of such a rule do not themselves observe it.

As such, I have no problems with talking shite about someone who regularly does it to others when they're not present-- nor with calling out the hypocrites who selectively endorse such a 'rule' when it suits them.

617 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 11:18:03pm

re: #607 WindUpBird

I call them werewolves because I'm A) a cheese-ball horror movie and comic book fan, and B) a furry :D

/Fans of The Howling and Wolfsbane from the New Mutants represent

You're an actual Furry?

Excuse my incredulity.

Tell me, what makes someone like you choose the Furry lifestyle over that of the Militia? In the Militia you get to shoot at Furries. Are you a masochist?

And are you in fact a Bird? Or are you playing us all false, and you're really a fox or a ferret?

618 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 11:19:54pm

re: #614 sattv4u2

Industrial strength bug juice attached to a pressure washer. Took the gloves off a few minutes too early to start putting everything away, and one stray one got me on the back of the hand

Nice rig, I'm impressed. One could thrash most of them with the pressure alone, though the risk is, well, I suppose you know that with an immediacy I don't.

I prefer the stealth approach with a gentle fog or spray, then wait until the toxins work before sending a body double in to approach the scene and do the actual work. Science and substitution have always worked for me.

619 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 11:22:29pm

re: #618 Bagua

Nice rig, I'm impressed. One could thrash most of them with the pressure alone, though the risk is, well, I suppose you know that with an immediacy I don't.

I prefer the stealth approach with a gentle fog or spray, then wait until the toxins work before sending a body double in to approach the scene and do the actual work. Science and substitution have always worked for me.

we're not talking about a softball sizenest nestled in your houses eaves. i'm dealing with the feed assembly of an 11 meter satellite dish thats needed to do a feed to europe in about 90 minutes. The position of the nest was giving me ghost images on a spectrum analyzer, and would have affected 9negatively) the feed, thus compromising $$$$ and a client

620 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 11:25:52pm

re: #617 Cato the Elder

You're an actual Furry?

Excuse my incredulity.

Tell me, what makes someone like you choose the Furry lifestyle over that of the Militia? In the Militia you get to shoot at Furries. Are you a masochist?

And are you in fact a Bird? Or are you playing us all false, and you're really a fox or a ferret?

You're getting us confused; I'm in the militia, he is the bird.

Ok, not exactly the militia but I do have a passion for skeet shooting which involves both shotguns and birds of clay.

621 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 11:31:10pm

An angry Scotsman writes in:
Cheechako, you say nothing about anything yet you got a lot to downding about.

Please translate this to dialect typing as necessary.

622 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 11:33:15pm

Notice to Cheechako, from Ms Iceweasel: FYI, I will be updinging all the posts you're running through this thread downdinging. Thanks so much for your contributions.

623 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 11:37:11pm

re: #613 WindUpBird

Well, we're talking about role-playing games, the role is everything! It's basically like cooperative storytelling. There's a guy "running" the story, the storyteller, and then there's us players, who all play characters and interact with the plot points and antagonists that the storyteller comes up with. People hamming it up and acting around a table, tossing dice to resolve combats and skill checks.

The way I describe it to my parents, it's like those murder mystery dinners, but more so. More rules, more specifics, more ways to quantify what's happening.

I'm beginning to understand better. I always thought the role bits were just a delay before the shooting stuff, more of an annoyance really. I see now that there is a sort of social interaction and personal expression involved.

Here is about my level of experience with gaming. Though I did receive (and install) a copy of Vegas 2 which came with some video cards I purchased. I can not get past the first set of stairs, the snipers get me and I never see them. Humiliating.

624 Bagua  Wed, Mar 31, 2010 11:41:48pm

re: #614 sattv4u2

Industrial strength bug juice attached to a pressure washer. Took the gloves off a few minutes too early to start putting everything away, and one stray one got me on the back of the hand

Wow, sounds exiting. My job is boring... I never get to kill anything, lately.

Though that is not entirely true, we did have an infestation of ladybugs in the lab. My solution, however, was to capture them and release them outside as it seemed pointless to squash or poison them. Unfortunately I was noticed, and asked, "Are you taking those ladybugs home?" Messes up my gangster image.

625 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 1, 2010 12:09:13am

re: #617 Cato the Elder

You're an actual Furry?

Excuse my incredulity.

Tell me, what makes someone like you choose the Furry lifestyle over that of the Militia? In the Militia you get to shoot at Furries. Are you a masochist?

And are you in fact a Bird? Or are you playing us all false, and you're really a fox or a ferret?

hahahahaha

No, here's how it works:

I'm a guy who grew up listening to spacerock and hair metal and reading comics and watching TV shows about monsters and werewolves and ninja turtles. And since I've been drawing since I was 4 years old, i drew these things too!

And then I found a bunch of friends when I was a teenager who were into the same stuff! And so we hung out and watched movies and swapped art and made up our own little paper and dice games and such.

And now that I'm an adult? Nothing much has changed. it's like the punk scene, it's DIY. People mae elaborate costumes from scratch because it's in their head, they love doing it, it makes them happy. You hang out with people, you make art of their weird critter-monster characters, they make art of yours, you keep in touch online, you go to conventions, you dress up in strange outfits and run around the convention hotel making people laugh and acting out because it's performace, it's fun!

And so on, and so on.

I don't believe I'm a bird any more than Roger Daltrey believes he's a blind, deaf and dumb kid who plays pinball. :D

626 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 1, 2010 12:13:19am

re: #623 Bagua

I played Duck Hunt when it was an arcade game, at the local 7-11 with my dad when I was a kid. Good memories!

627 Cato the Elder  Thu, Apr 1, 2010 12:18:32am

re: #625 WindUpBird

NTTAWWT

628 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 1, 2010 12:19:40am

re: #627 Cato the Elder

NTTAWWT

ahahahahah

In moderation, it's genius :D


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