Anti-Abortion Fox News Comments of the Day

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Whoa. The comments for this Fox News story about anti-abortion murderer Scott Roeder’s sentencing are jaw-droppers — many of them openly cheering for the killer: Abortion Doctor’s Killer Uses Sentencing as Forum.

gummer
Nebraska

I THINK THAT HE MIGHT BE A HERO IN PRISON BECAUSE THEY REALLY DO NOT LIKE BABY KILLERS THERE

Friday, April 02, 2010 at 8:30 AM

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flybnj

And the court still refuses to acknowledge that abortion is murder, and that Tiller is on the same level as Hitler. I guess it is all about economics. Even so Lord, Come Quickly.

Friday, April 02, 2010 at 8:42 AM

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naota
Florida

Tiller murdered precious little babies, because their mothers would have been depressed at missing a rock concert. His murder, while wrong, doesn’t change the fact that he was a monster, and I am not sorry that his chamber of horrors has been closed.

Friday, April 02, 2010 at 8:43 AM

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martfek

They punish the one that punished the baby killer but they don’t punish the baby killers.. What a society!!!

Friday, April 02, 2010 at 8:48 AM

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familyisimporta

Dr. Tiller committed murder everyday. The church that he attended must not have taught Bible principles, or else he would have not felt comfortable occupying a pew every week. God says that it is better for you that a millstone be tied about your neck and for you to be cast into the sea than to harm any little ones. God also says that he knew each of us from the foundations of the earth, which tells you that each little baby is important and special to him. As for Scott Roeder, I wish I could have told him that any punishment that we could have thought up for Dr. Tiller will not compare to what he will received when he stands before the creator of all life.

Friday, April 02, 2010 at 8:49 AM

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freddy6823

He killed scum. So what? He gets the maximum. Meanwhile, career criminals walk free. Why use your hatred of his beliefs to pass sentence, but let the murderer rapist out earlier? The court should not be a forum for political beliefs.

Friday, April 02, 2010 at 8:50 AM

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mojoceltica
Indiana

I wish I could thank Scott Roeder for his tremendous sacrifice. Tiller was a souless, inhuman butcher.

Friday, April 02, 2010 at 8:58 AM

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reaganvirtues
California

How sad that Scott Roeder threw his life away for that baby murdering filthy trash Tiller.

Friday, April 02, 2010 at 9:28 AM

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livetoeducate

In no way do I condone the killing of any human being, but what “Doctor” Tiller did everyday was the sickest act of murder ever created. Until women start waking up and taking personal responsibility for their bodies unfortunately this kind of insanity will never stop.

Friday, April 02, 2010 at 9:37 AM

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tombell

Considering the number of babies Tiller murdered, he may be one of the most prolific serial killers in history. Roeder sacrificed his future here on earth to stop that monster. Humanity owes Roeder its gratitude for having the guts to stop this evil even if we as a society could not.

Friday, April 02, 2010 at 9:58 AM

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obamaiswrong

FREE U.S. FROM OMAMA!!! After touring the Holocaust Museum in D.C. I could not help but feel shame and disgust over OUR nation’s Holocaust of Our slaughter of 50 Million innocent babies…with no end in sight. Our nation IS behaving just like Nazi Germany and those supporting our abortion Holocaust are just like the people who supported Mazism’s 12 Million+ murdered in their Holocaust. If there IS a DIFFERENCE between our pro-abortion folks and the pro-Nazi folks of the 1930’s & 40’s Germany, I’d like to hear one of them explain their justification in this forum for abortions continuance. As for Mr. Roeder, Man, thru our courts, has now judged him and he will pay the price for his actions…and God will judge him and he will face those consequences. Its certain Mr. Roeder knows this would occur as well. But like King David, its better to fall into the Hands of a Merciful God than the hands of men (II Samuel 24). oNE bAD A** mISTAKE, aMERIKA!

Friday, April 02, 2010 at 10:06 AM

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409 comments
1 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:29:48pm

I have simply stopped reading comments on major news sites. They make me irritable.

2 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:30:33pm

Ahh yes, the whole we like this murderer because we are against murder crowd….

3 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:31:42pm

Ass-covering statement from Fox coming up in 3…2…1…

Not.

4 windsagio  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:32:39pm

so since the first 3 posters are Jewish, is there anything to be said about them comparing abortion to the Holocaust, or is it simply beyond words?

5 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:33:09pm

re: #4 windsagio

so since the first 3 posters are Jewish, is there anything to be said about them comparing abortion to the Holocaust, or is it simply beyond words?

Go for the simply beyond words.

6 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:33:36pm

re: #4 windsagio

so since the first 3 posters are Jewish, is there anything to be said about them comparing abortion to the Holocaust, or is it simply beyond words?

Ohh and I think Cato is a recovering Catholic.

7 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:34:22pm

Did you expect anything different Charles? It’s why I tend to comment more here than at the cesspools that the comments sections of major newspapers have become.

8 windsagio  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:34:24pm

re: #6 LudwigVanQuixote

… damn. Where’d I get that idea then? >>

9 researchok  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:34:45pm

There are some really sick people out there.

I wish they were as demanding that prenatal health care were mandatory for unwed mothers as they are demanding on abortion.

Just a thought.

10 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:35:02pm

re: #4 windsagio

so since the first 3 posters are Jewish, is there anything to be said about them comparing abortion to the Holocaust, or is it simply beyond words?

Beyond words, especially when speaking of the kind of cases Tiller took.

11 Gus  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:35:07pm

Clearly this is the work of Soros mobys!11!!!!!!

/No true Scotsman!

/

12 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:35:25pm

re: #6 LudwigVanQuixote

Ohh and I think Cato is a recovering Catholic.

Actually, I think Cato is just a Catholic.

13 Olsonist  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:35:39pm

re: #6 LudwigVanQuixote

I’m pretty sure he’s still a Papal subject.

14 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:35:41pm

re: #4 windsagio

As a Jew: It’s expected, from assholes with persecution complexes.

But yeah, the actual feelings about them doing it aren’t really expressible.

15 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:36:18pm

The crazeee, it’s strong there!

16 Stanley Sea  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:36:24pm

The thing with these folks is, anything is OK if it supports your belief. Yeah, even cold blooded murder of a man in his church.

That’s the dangerous path of blind belief, obviously.

17 windsagio  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:36:37pm

re: #8 windsagio

I propose a new feature! A handy spreadsheet showing the religious and political positions (and gender) of all posters. Wouldn’t that be handy?!

18 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:39:42pm

re: #14 Obdicut

As a Jew: It’s expected, from assholes with persecution complexes.

But yeah, the actual feelings about them doing it aren’t really expressible.

Time to break out the Angrish, ehh?

tvtropes.org

19 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:39:58pm

re: #17 windsagio

I propose a new feature! A handy spreadsheet showing the religious and political positions (and gender) of all posters. Wouldn’t that be handy?!

You just want people to stop mistaking you for a girl.

/

20 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:40:03pm

re: #6 LudwigVanQuixote

Ohh and I think Cato is a recovering Catholic.

Is he?
I thought he was a fairly newly convert to Catholicism.

21 windsagio  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:40:24pm

re: #19 SanFranciscoZionist

nono, I like it when they do that >>

22 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:40:40pm

re: #18 jamesfirecat

I love TVtropes.

23 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:41:33pm

re: #17 windsagio

I propose a new feature! A handy spreadsheet showing the religious and political positions (and gender) of all posters. Wouldn’t that be handy?!

Why?

24 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:41:41pm

re: #17 windsagio

I propose a new feature! A handy spreadsheet showing the religious and political positions (and gender) of all posters. Wouldn’t that be handy?!

I’m a male agnostic/ non tithing Presbyterian catnip smoking liberal, my turn ons include women who like anime/really anything else geeky and my turn offs include shaving and exercise.

25 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:42:09pm

re: #20 reine.de.tout

Is he?
I thought he was a fairly newly convert to Catholicism.

You are all wrong, but I will not speak for Cato, he can address this when and if he wants to.

26 bosforus  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:43:21pm
I THINK THAT HE MIGHT BE A HERO IN PRISON BECAUSE THEY REALLY DO NOT LIKE BABY KILLERS THERE

Is that supposed to be something to aspire to? A hero to criminals?

27 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:44:10pm

re: #22 Obdicut

I love TVtropes.

So many wonderful hours wasted.

28 sandbox  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:44:26pm

I can’t see why Roeder wasn’t given the death penalty.

29 DoubleBarrellBunnyAnger  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:45:57pm

Wedge Issues Gone Wild

30 celticdragon  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:46:04pm

Some perspective on Dr Tiller and why it is necessary to have the option of late term abortion.

The murder of George Tiller reminds me of something about abortion that none of the advocates on either side get — its intensely personal. My brother and his wife’s first child, a girl, was diagnosed with hypoplastic left ventrical with an atrial complication. Look up the statistics, they are grim. They found the diagnosis at 18 weeks during the initial sonogram, almost at the cutoff point where most doctors not working in Kansas will perform abortions. (The nurse doing the sonogram blanched when she saw the abnormality, panicked and immediately called the doctor in to look.) So imagine the scenario. My brother and his wife have almost no information about the disease their firstborn child has other than the terrible mortality rates and the thought of having to bring a baby to term that will need three heart surgeries before her sixth birthday, each one of which could kill her. Or the baby could die in the womb. What do they do? The choice is unimaginable, and they have only a few weeks to decide. Only Kansas will allow doctors to abort fetuses after 20 weeks.
I guess my point is this… my brother and his wife chose to bring their daughter to term, though she died three days after being born, never being able to come off the heart-and-lung machine after her first surgery. But they considered having the abortion.
And if they took longer than two weeks to decide, George Tiller may have been the one performing the procedure. It’s easy to take sides on abortion in the abstract because we only think of healthy babies. It’s much harder when the decision is sitting in your living room in the form of a fetus with an 80+ percent fatal heart defect. Would George Tiller have been a monster if he aborted my niece? Or would he have saved my brother and his wife sixteen weeks of agony and the searing torture of handing their three-day-old child to doctors for open-heart surgery, knowing there was an 80% chance that was the last time they would see her alive?
I’m not making Tiller out to be a saint — he’s not. I’m just saying that he was engaged in a legal, and sometimes helpful, practice and was murdered for it. There should be no rejoicing in his death.


More here.

31 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:46:19pm

re: #25 Walter L. Newton

ah.
I wasn’t trying to speculate; I just recalled a post he made about a year ago.
That is all.

32 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:46:27pm

re: #12 SanFranciscoZionist

Actually, I think Cato is just a Catholic.

New or not, I’m a Catholic. The rest is between me and my Church.

33 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:46:49pm

re: #24 jamesfirecat

I’m a male agnostic/ non tithing Presbyterian catnip smoking liberal, my turn ons include women who like anime/really anything else geeky and my turn offs include shaving and exercise.

Female, thirtysomething, married, Conservative Jew, liberal American. Likes history, perfume, mystery novels and Irish trad. Afraid of spiders. Dislikes include Ann Coulter, Dennis Prager, Berkeley students wearing khaffiyehs tied over their faces, and job hunting.

34 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:47:14pm

re: #32 Cato the Elder

New or not, I’m a Catholic. The rest is between me and my Church.

And your Priest..
*waves*
Hi Cato!

35 sandbox  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:47:43pm

re: #33 SanFranciscoZionist

Come on. How can you dislike Dennis Prager?

36 Olsonist  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:47:50pm

re: #28 sandbox

Statutorially, he didn’t make the grade:

During a kidnapping for ransom
During a killing committed under a contract or agreement
The killing of any person by someone confined in a state correctional institution, community correction institution or jail or while in official custody
A killing during the commission of, or attempt to commit, a rape or aggravated sodomy of any person
The killing of a law enforcement officer
The killing of more than one person as part of the same act or in two or more acts connected together
The killing of a child under age 14 during a kidnapping or aggravated kidnapping with the intent to commit a sex offense upon the child

37 jaunte  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:49:13pm

re: #30 celticdragon

Real life decisions are sobering, compared to the caricature:

Tiller murdered precious little babies, because their mothers would have been depressed at missing a rock concert.
38 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:49:16pm

re: #35 sandbox

Come on. How can you dislike Dennis Prager?

It comes naturally to me, somehow.

39 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:49:29pm

re: #32 Cato the Elder

New or not, I’m a Catholic. The rest is between me and my Church.

I did not mean to mischaracterize you.

40 Ojoe  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:49:37pm

I was raised Catholic but at one time I sent the Pope a postcard saying “I quit” (years ago). I’m not sure it made any difference though.

41 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:49:48pm

re: #34 HoosierHoops

And your Priest..
*waves*
Hi Cato!

And I’m about five minutes away from going to mandatory pre-Easter confession.

Y’all have two minutes to recall sins to my mind that I may have forgotten.

42 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:49:52pm

In a possibly not unrelated story:
Incoming Baylor University President to honor Intelligent Design professor

A change in leadership certainly makes a difference. Past recent administrations at Baylor University in Waco have maintained sensible policies protecting scientific integrity against those who would force their dogmatic religious beliefs on unsuspecting students paying top dollar for higher education. The previous administrations have resisted efforts by some professors in the so-called “Intelligent Design” movement who sought to distort the principles of modern science to include religious teachings tantamount to creationist fundamentalism.

Dr. Bob Marks is one of these professors in the Electrical and Computer Engineering Department who has caused friction with the administration for promoting his Intelligent Design theories on the University website. Marks was ultimately overruled and forced to remove the offending content.

But now times have changed. Incoming Baylor president Kenneth Starr, infamous for heading the investigations that led to impeachment of former Democrat President Bill Clinton, has announced that shortly after he enters office in June of this year, he will honor Marks for his efforts. “If ever there was a University where discussions of faith and science could be welcomed it is Baylor University. We should commend those with the courage to address the difficult questions, such as origins of life, that touch on both our scientific knowledge and understanding and our deeply held religious beliefs.”

Contrary to what some might assume, Baylor and its West Texas counterpart, Wayland Baptist U, did a pretty good job of resisting creationist infiltration through most of the twentieth century. This was not because they were more modern than other Baptists. In fact, it was because they were actually more traditional: Separation of church and state was a bedrock Baptist principle from the movement’s very earliest days until quite recently, predating the First Amendment by a couple of centuries. As we see, this has changed within a single generation and even Baylor has surrendered to the onslaught of politically motivated pseudoscience.

43 Stanley Sea  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:50:24pm

re: #37 jaunte

Real life decisions are sobering, compared to the caricature:

Written by a male, I’d assume. There’s a lot of stuff wrapped up in that belief.

44 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:50:57pm

AAACCCHHH! PIMF! Story link:
Incoming Baylor University President to honor Intelligent Design professor

45 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:51:12pm

re: #35 sandbox

Come on. How can you dislike Dennis Prager?

Well how about his awful attempts to define away the core values of Judaism and replace them with his own personal politics.

If you want, I wrote a lot about one of his screeds last night and completely took it apart from a Jewish standpoint.

46 jaunte  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:51:31pm

re: #41 Cato the Elder

And I’m about five minutes away from going to mandatory pre-Easter confession.

Y’all have two minutes to recall sins to my mind that I may have forgotten.

Maybe something to do with Anne Hathaway and Vesper?

47 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:51:38pm

re: #41 Cato the Elder

And I’m about five minutes away from going to mandatory pre-Easter confession.

Y’all have two minutes to recall sins to my mind that I may have forgotten.

How many rosaries for being a pedant?

48 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:51:39pm

re: #32 Cato the Elder

New or not, I’m a Catholic. The rest is between me and my Church.

I’m sorry Cato that you are a Catholic. No, that didn’t come out right… I’m sorry that I thought you could never be a Catholic… hmmm… that didn’t quite work… now I got it… considering where you were headed on your “trek” when you stopped by here last Dec., I guess I assumed that you had certain other religious interests other than Judeo-Christian based.

Sorry.

49 Political Atheist  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:51:49pm

re: #40 Ojoe

You flounced! (From Catholicism) I like it, send a postcard. I wish I had thought of that long ago.

50 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:52:00pm

re: #46 jaunte

Maybe something to do with Anne Hathaway and Vesper?

Thank you. One tends to suppress these things.

51 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:52:19pm

re: #40 Ojoe

I was raised Catholic but at one time I sent the Pope a postcard saying “I quit” (years ago). I’m not sure it made any difference though.

We got it… had a good laugh… trashed it.

52 allegro  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:53:01pm

re: #42 Shiplord Kirel

As we see, this has changed within a single generation and even Baylor has surrendered to the onslaught of politically motivated pseudoscience.

Soon, Texas “educated” young people will be unemployable and for good reason. I’ts deplorable.

53 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:53:05pm

re: #37 jaunte

Real life decisions are sobering, compared to the caricature:

Another pet peeve—folks who absolutely refuse to understand what Tiller’s work consisted of.

54 Vidiotic  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:53:11pm

The comments on Fox have degenerated in to the ramblings of dangerous people who are feeling their impotency on many things beyond their ability or desire to comprehend. If their organizational skills were better, or if they didn’t hate everyone who thinks slightly different than they do, I’d be really worried. Their mental make-up precludes their ability to work well together for very long. So, expect an abundance of isolated incidents with the only common motive being what Rush said or what they saw on Fox.

55 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:53:55pm

re: #41 Cato the Elder

And I’m about five minutes away from going to mandatory pre-Easter confession.

Y’all have two minutes to recall sins to my mind that I may have forgotten.

The average devout Catholic knows and loves their sins, from what I’ve found.

56 Ojoe  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:53:59pm

re: #49 Rightwingconspirator

Well I consider myself a Catholic still, just a ‘bad” one.

I guess I take it on my own terms, in a rebellious sort of way, & I think that’s the only healthy approach really.

57 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:54:02pm

re: #48 Walter L. Newton

I’m sorry Cato that you are a Catholic. No, that didn’t come out right… I’m sorry that I thought you could never be a Catholic… hmmm… that didn’t quite work… now I got it… considering where you were headed on your “trek” when you stopped by here last Dec., I guess I assumed that you had certain other religious interests other than Judeo-Christian based.

Sorry.

I’m actually a Christo-Buddhist à la Thich Nhat Hanh. See his book “Living Christ, Living Buddha.”

Just don’t tell the Pope.

58 Jaerik  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:54:39pm

Every pro-life argument inevitably comes down to the foundational assertion that a fetus is a baby.

I’m not a fan of organized religion, but I respect that it’s very important to some people. And so I would be a lot more sympathetic to the religious pro-life side if someone could give me a rational, internally consistent, religious argument from Scripture that establishes this fact.

Unfortunately, I can’t find any. Vague excerpts like Isaiah 1:5 are equally balanced by Talmud references saying quite explicitly that abortion is a property crime. And the stance can’t even be argued by Appeal to Tradition: we’ve traditionally always established personhood at birth. Hence why we have birth certificates, not conception certificates.

Thus, the whole thing seems like an artificial wedge issue conjured up by earthly, ecclesiastical sources as a political power grab. I don’t fault pro-life folks who feel very strongly that abortion is wrong based on their preconception that a fetus is a child — I just doubt the good-faith intentions of those who convinced them as much on incredibly shaky grounds.

59 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:55:03pm

re: #41 Cato the Elder

And I’m about five minutes away from going to mandatory pre-Easter confession.

Y’all have two minutes to recall sins to my mind that I may have forgotten.

I usually tell new priests in confession about getting caught doing the wild thing at Goats rock naked in College on the beach doing the wild thing at 3am by the Sheriffs Dept. I can tell when priests perk up…
/

60 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:55:18pm

re: #41 Cato the Elder

And I’m about five minutes away from going to mandatory pre-Easter confession.

Y’all have two minutes to recall sins to my mind that I may have forgotten.

“Three times I took the name of the Lord in vain, twice I was angry with my mother, once I slept with the brother of my fiance, and I bounced a check on the liquor store, but I didn’t really mean to.”

“Then it’s not a sin.”

“Thank you, Father.”

“Now, that other thing…”

NAME THAT MOVIE!!!

61 What, me worry?  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:55:25pm

re: #4 windsagio

so since the first 3 posters are Jewish, is there anything to be said about them comparing abortion to the Holocaust, or is it simply beyond words?

It’s freakishly amazing to me how fast a Nazi, Holocaust or anti-Semitic statement gets into the news sites. Often at the most innocuous stories. Like SFZ stated in #1, it’s infuriating.

62 sandbox  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:55:48pm

re: #45 LudwigVanQuixote

Where? On this site?

63 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:56:01pm

re: #47 LudwigVanQuixote

How many rosaries for being a pedant?

If the priest is a Jesuit, he gives you credits for that.

64 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:56:24pm

re: #4 windsagio

so since the first 3 posters are Jewish, is there anything to be said about them comparing abortion to the Holocaust, or is it simply beyond words?

I do not know how you can compare legal abortion to the Holocaust. Dr. Tiller’s patients were at his clinic of their own free will. Dr. Mengele’s subjects were not asked for their consent.

65 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:56:35pm

re: #57 Cato the Elder

I’m actually a Christo-Buddhist à la Thich Nhat Hanh. See his book “Living Christ, Living Buddha.”

Just don’t tell the Pope.

As I said above, I was leaving what I knew as your business.

66 pharmmajor  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:56:51pm

*facepalm*

This kind of shit makes me fear for humanity’s future.

67 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:57:12pm

re: #55 Obdicut

Why the hell did you give that a downding, Cato?

It wasn’t in the least bit meant as a slam.

Ah well. Apologies for any offense you took.

68 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:57:20pm

re: #62 sandbox

Where? On this site?

yes last night.

69 What, me worry?  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:57:28pm

re: #33 SanFranciscoZionist

Female, thirtysomething, married, Conservative Jew, liberal American. Likes history, perfume, mystery novels and Irish trad. Afraid of spiders. Dislikes include Ann Coulter, Dennis Prager, Berkeley students wearing khaffiyehs tied over their faces, and job hunting.

Clever, intelligent, (I bet cute as a button) humorous and em… something about medieval Judaism thrown in there somewhere!

70 Ojoe  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:58:07pm

re: #58 Jaerik

Some think that either life is sacred or it is not …

& if the course has been set who are we to interfere?

It can be a very heartfelt issue.

71 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:58:39pm

re: #1 SanFranciscoZionist

I have simply stopped reading comments on major news sites. They make me irritable.

Teh Juice-hating crazee is all over the talkback forums of all the major news outlets.

72 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:58:39pm

re: #33 SanFranciscoZionist

Female, thirtysomething, married, Conservative Jew, liberal American. Likes history, perfume, mystery novels and Irish trad. Afraid of spiders. Dislikes include Ann Coulter, Dennis Prager, Berkeley students wearing khaffiyehs tied over their faces, and job hunting.

And I would so take you if we were both not taken already :)

73 kobra_55  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:58:53pm

Maybe to make it seem more like a real holocaust they should estimate the number of pregnancies “terminated” by birth control over the last century and add it to their totals. ///

It would be a lot easier to be “pro-life” (as if the majority of pro-choice people love killing babies) if there weren’t these kind of people leading the way.

74 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:58:58pm

re: #69 marjoriemoon

Clever, intelligent, (I bet cute as a button) humorous and em… something about medieval Judaism thrown in there somewhere!

You too!

75 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:59:37pm

re: #72 LudwigVanQuixote

And I would so take you if we were both not taken already :)

I’m flattered, you know.

76 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:59:45pm

re: #33 SanFranciscoZionist

Female, thirtysomething, married, Conservative Jew, liberal American. Likes history, perfume, mystery novels and Irish trad. Afraid of spiders. Dislikes include Ann Coulter, Dennis Prager, Berkeley students wearing khaffiyehs tied over their faces, and job hunting.

If you think job hunting is Teh Suck, try being over 50 and job hunting.

77 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:59:56pm

re: #70 Ojoe

Some think that either life is sacred or it is not …

& if the course has been set who are we to interfere?

It can be a very heartfelt issue.

Umm…

If the course has been set in the wrong direction on theological grounds, isn’t it the right of every person who believes in what that religion truly stands for to correct those who have misunderstood it?

78 allegro  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:00:29pm

re: #73 kobra_55

Maybe to make it seem more like a real holocaust they should estimate the number of pregnancies “terminated” by birth control over the last century and add it to their totals.

Anti-choicers want to see an end to birth control as well. This has nothing to do with the precious baybeez and everything to do with controlling women.

79 celticdragon  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:00:45pm

re: #37 jaunte

Real life decisions are sobering, compared to the caricature:

Yep.

When you read the example of why real women consider late term abortion, the choices they have been given are horrific and heart breaking. Usually, some form of genetic or other form of very serious defect with the baby is involved. All too often, I noticed that even when the parents decided to keep the baby and let nature take its inevitable course where the child died, the marriage was devastated.

This is what the religious wingnuts want for you. Not the child dieing or course…but the utter inability to have any say in any thing that happens.

You see, it’s a blessing to hold your badly malformed daughter for two days in an ICU neo natal ward. It is GODS WILL for you to watch helplessly as she is pumped full of painkillers that can’t quite hold off the agony of her nervous system going haywire. Then, you humbly give her back to God after the horror of watching her suffer unthinkable pain and die without her ever being able to understand why she hurt or what could possible comfort her.

Keep telling yourself that it is a blessing. You try to tell yourself that you may believe it one day.

This is a fact of genetics, and it happens every day…but not in theocon land. At least not where they will admit that they damned sure would prefer to have that option too if they got that news from the ObGYN.

80 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:00:48pm

We finally get to see the unedited tapes of Breitbart’s Acorn “investigation”. Of course not released by Brietrart (IIRC he claimed they didn’t exist) but he had to give them to the CA Attorney General in exchange for immunity for O’Keefe.
Unedited ACORN tapes from the California Attorney General

81 pingjockey  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:00:52pm

re: #76 AlouetteThat is a freakin’ fact!

82 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:01:02pm

re: #71 Alouette

Teh Juice-hating crazee is all over the talkback forums of all the major news outlets.

Most of the anti-government types have antisemitism in there too. I don’t see that going away any time soon.

83 Randall Gross  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:01:16pm

Arggg. Just Argggh.

Idaho GOP Gov Hopeful: I’m OK With Militias Showing ‘A Little Force’ (VIDEO)


That is all.

84 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:01:35pm

re: #63 SanFranciscoZionist

If the priest is a Jesuit, he gives you credits for that.

In honor of Cato, my favorite religious joke, actually told to me by a priest.

A Dominican, a Franciscan and a Jesuit were having a lte night debate when the lights went out after an enormous thunderclap.

The Dominican saw this as a sign from God and went into a tirade about sin.

The Franciscan smiled and contemplated the meaning of light and darkness while humming a tune.

The Jesuit, got up and threw the circuit breaker.

85 kobra_55  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:02:06pm

re: #78 allegro

Yeah, I know, that’s kind of why I’m surprised they don’t seriously do that. They could say, “Oh well, we’ve had 40 million estimated abortions, and another 500 million potential babies whose lives were snuffed out by condoms and birth control pills. THE HORROR!”

87 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:02:20pm

re: #74 LudwigVanQuixote

You too!

aww shucks ma’am…

88 windsagio  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:02:25pm

re: #23 reine.de.tout

because its embarassing to get these things wrong, really :p

It was also kinda a joke tho, if with hindsight one that didn’t make much sense.

PS: I’m in my early 30s, some kind of Christian (raised Presby tho, so they have a special place in my heart), and one of the more crazily liberal people on here :p

I’ll leave my gender up to speculation.

89 Ojoe  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:02:27pm

re: #77 jamesfirecat

Well I meant the course of a pregnancy …

some won’t deflect it at all, and consider it very sacred.

I was not talking about religious doctrine, just down to earth stuff.

90 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:02:46pm

re: #75 SanFranciscoZionist

I’m flattered, you know.

Missed…

awww shucks ma’am :)

91 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:03:01pm

re: #83 Thanos

Arggg. Just Argggh.

Idaho GOP Gov Hopeful: I’m OK With Militias Showing ‘A Little Force’ (VIDEO)

That is all.

Ugh.

92 Jaerik  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:03:10pm

re: #70 Ojoe

Some think that either life is sacred or it is not …

& if the course has been set who are we to interfere?

It can be a very heartfelt issue.

Huh? Wasn’t that kind of the point of my post? To point out that it’s a very heartfelt issue, but that the argument generally, (including your post), rests on the theologically shaky assertion that a fetus is “life” to begin with?

93 darthstar  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:04:49pm

The foxnews blog fans are a freaky bunch, I agree. So, to focus on something a little more positive…here comes Peter Cottontail…hopping down the bu-

94 pingjockey  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:04:51pm

re: #83 Thanos
That is way to close to where I live here in eastern WA. They cleaned out the neonazis from Hayden Lake ID a while ago, but militia fu is still around.

95 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:04:58pm

re: #84 LudwigVanQuixote

In honor of Cato, my favorite religious joke, actually told to me by a priest.

A Dominican, a Franciscan and a Jesuit were having a lte night debate when the lights went out after an enormous thunderclap.

The Dominican saw this as a sign from God and went into a tirade about sin.

The Franciscan smiled and contemplated the meaning of light and darkness while humming a tune.

The Jesuit, got up and threw the circuit breaker.

Yeah, basically.

Now, if there had been a Salesian, he would have organized a Teen Flashlight Treasure Hunt League.

96 allegro  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:05:07pm

re: #85 kobra_55

Yeah, I know, that’s kind of why I’m surprised they don’t seriously do that. They could say, “Oh well, we’ve had 40 million estimated abortions, and another 500 million potential babies whose lives were snuffed out by condoms and birth control pills. THE HORROR!”

I defer to the great and inimitable Jesus’ General and his Mason jars. heh.

97 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:05:19pm

re: #84 LudwigVanQuixote

In honor of Cato, my favorite religious joke, actually told to me by a priest.

A Dominican, a Franciscan and a Jesuit were having a lte night debate when the lights went out after an enormous thunderclap.

The Dominican saw this as a sign from God and went into a tirade about sin.

The Franciscan smiled and contemplated the meaning of light and darkness while humming a tune.

The Jesuit, got up and threw the circuit breaker.

I don’t get it. Maybe you can tell it again, this time with a Lubavitcher, a Satmar and a Litvak.

98 Randall Gross  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:05:31pm

re: #86 Killgore Trout

Thanks for the links KT, but Breitbart and others have already wasted enough of my life chasing this bullshit, I’ll not waste more of it on his shit, or that of his shit flinging monkeys either.

My mother stayed at an apartment provided by Acorn during some of her Chemo therapy in the NW, maybe I’m biased, but I don’t think they are wholly evil.

99 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:05:38pm

re: #84 LudwigVanQuixote

One of my favorites, since it’s semi-believable:

The children were lined up in the cafeteria of a Catholic elementary school for lunch. At the head of the table was a large pile of apples. The nun made a note, and posted on the apple tray: “Take only ONE. God is watching.”

Moving further along the lunch line, at the other end of the table was a large pile of chocolate chip cookies. A child had written a note, “Take all you want. God is watching the apples

100 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:06:27pm

re: #97 Alouette

I don’t get it. Maybe you can tell it again, this time with a Lubavitcher, a Satmar and a Litvak.

The Dominican is the Satmar, the Franciscan is the Lubavitcher, and the Jesuit is the Litvak.

101 Gus  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:07:12pm

re: #83 Thanos

Arggg. Just Argggh.

Idaho GOP Gov Hopeful: I’m OK With Militias Showing ‘A Little Force’ (VIDEO)

That is all.

Another person with ties to Wallbuilders is running for office in Texas.

GRANBURY, Texas, March 31 /PRNewswire/ — Hood County resident Lt. Col. (Ret.) Brian Birdwell, a recipient of the Bronze Star in the Persian Gulf War and a survivor of the 2001 terrorist attack on the Pentagon, today announced that he has filed his papers with the Texas Secretary of State as a candidate in the May 8 special election for Senate District 22.

Brian has served as a national speaker for WallBuilders, a pro-family organization that presents America’s religious, moral, and constitutional heritage.

Wallbuilders tag at LGF.

102 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:07:23pm

re: #33 SanFranciscoZionist

Female, thirtysomething, married, Conservative Jew, liberal American. Likes history, perfume, mystery novels and Irish trad. Afraid of spiders. Dislikes include Ann Coulter, Dennis Prager, Berkeley students wearing khaffiyehs tied over their faces, and job hunting.

You forgot, “all round good egg”.

103 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:07:26pm

re: #99 Obdicut

One of my favorites, since it’s semi-believable:

The children were lined up in the cafeteria of a Catholic elementary school for lunch. At the head of the table was a large pile of apples. The nun made a note, and posted on the apple tray: “Take only ONE. God is watching.”

Moving further along the lunch line, at the other end of the table was a large pile of chocolate chip cookies. A child had written a note, “Take all you want. God is watching the apples

Sounds like I taught that kid.

Best moment of the last week: We’re praying before class. Kid in charge asks for special intentions. One boy raises his hand. “I’d like to pray that we all get forgiven for the sins we committed at the dance on Saturday night.”

104 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:07:58pm

re: #102 reine.de.tout

You forgot, “all round good egg”.

Aww. Thank you! You would know one, Reine.

105 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:08:15pm

re: #103 SanFranciscoZionist

Sounds like I taught that kid.

Best moment of the last week: We’re praying before class. Kid in charge asks for special intentions. One boy raises his hand. “I’d like to pray that we all get forgiven for the sins we committed at the dance on Saturday night.”

I’m ROFL.
That sounds like Catholic School as I remember it

106 Ojoe  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:08:45pm

re: #92 Jaerik

re: #92 Jaerik

Sure, in the big picture of the continuity and connectedness of it all, it’s life, some would say (if you want to see their viewpoint).

Nice theological arguments don’t much enter into this debate, for those who feel strongly about it, is all I’m saying.

107 allegro  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:08:59pm

re: #103 SanFranciscoZionist

One boy raises his hand. “I’d like to pray that we all get forgiven for the sins we committed at the dance on Saturday night.”

Sounds like a successful party!

108 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:10:45pm

OK since we are outing ourselves…

Me,

Zionist Lord of Remulak,

Occupation: Probe specialist 1st class and evil overlord of the Hoboken district.

Sex: Male

Age: Thirtysomething

Likes: Long walks on the beach, Talmudic study, chaos theory, string and field theories, anime, comics, karate, kendo, fencing, naval history, history, coffee, dogs and vaporizing the impudent with large particle beams,

Religion: Jewish, but basically BT with a strong dose of Torah Umadah that ends up making me sorta kinda conservadox with a yeshivish twist.

Dislikes: Rightwing nuts, left wing nuts, but most importantly, people who are in an utter state of ignorant and hypocritical denial and whose screeds actually cause my head to hurt.

109 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:10:52pm

re: #106 Ojoe

re: #92 Jaerik

Sure, in the big picture of the continuity and connectedness of it all, it’s life, some would say (if you want to see their viewpoint).

Nice theological arguments don’t much enter into this debate, for those who feel strongly about it, is all I’m saying.

But if its not in the theology they have no right to say that God is against such actions the way Roder did (and many others have)…

110 Ojoe  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:11:07pm

re: #76 Alouette

Been there.

111 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:12:37pm

What. The. Freaking. Fuck.

Pope’s preacher: Accusations against Vatican in sex-abuse scandal akin to anti-Semitism

VATICAN CITY – At a solemn Good Friday service, Pope Benedict XVI’s personal preacher likened the tide of allegations that the pontiff has covered up sex abuse cases to the “more shameful aspects of anti-Semitism.” But within hours, facing a storm of criticism at the comparison, the Vatican felt it necessary to distance the pope from the preacher’s remarks.

Both Jewish and victims’ groups responded that it was inappropriate to compare the discomfort being experienced by the church leadership in the sex abuse scandal to the violence that culminated in the Holocaust.

The Vatican plays the “anti-Semitism” card. This is surreal.

112 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:13:26pm

re: #111 Alouette

What. The. Freaking. Fuck.

Pope’s preacher: Accusations against Vatican in sex-abuse scandal akin to anti-Semitism

The Vatican plays the “anti-Semitism” card. This is surreal.

OMG! Perhaps someone will sick the Inquisition on them?

113 Gus  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:13:31pm

re: #83 Thanos

Arggg. Just Argggh.

Idaho GOP Gov Hopeful: I’m OK With Militias Showing ‘A Little Force’ (VIDEO)

That is all.

One more. This is Rex Rammell:

Idaho Republican, governor hopeful Rex Rammell makes ‘Obama tags’ joke about hunting President Obama
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Friday, August 28th 2009, 8:56 AM

BOISE, Idaho — An Idaho Republican gubernatorial hopeful insists he was only joking when he said he’d buy a license to hunt President Barack Obama.

When an audience member shouted a question about “Obama tags,” Rammell responded, “The Obama tags? We’d buy some of those.”

114 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:13:39pm

re: #84 LudwigVanQuixote

One of my favorites…

A rabbi was very sick and the only hospital that had any empty beds was the local Catholic hospital. His nurse was a nun from the local convent. One day she came into his room and noticed that the crucifix that normally hung on the wall over his bed was missing. She asked him good-naturedly, “Rabbi, have you done something with the crucifix?” “Oh, sister,” chuckled the rabbi, “I just figured one suffering Jew in this room was enough.”

115 darthstar  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:14:13pm

Well, this guy takes the piss.

“I’m not turning anybody away — that would be unethical,” Dr. Jack Cassell, 56, a Mount Dora urologist and a registered Republican opposed to the health plan, told the Orlando Sentinel on Thursday. “But if they read the sign and turn the other way, so be it.”

The sign reads: “If you voted for Obama … seek urologic care elsewhere. Changes to your healthcare begin right now, not in four years.”

116 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:15:43pm

re: #111 Alouette

What. The. Freaking. Fuck.

Pope’s preacher: Accusations against Vatican in sex-abuse scandal akin to anti-Semitism

The Vatican plays the “anti-Semitism” card. This is surreal.

Absolutely wrong.

The “accusations” against the Pope and the Vatican that they refuse to see the problem and act appropriately, are right on target. Other “accusations” that the Pope and/or his brother were abusive (or close to abusiveness and did nothing) seem to be accurate, as well.

There are many many Catholics here in the US who are stunned, and frankly, hurting a lot, because of how the Church authorities have handled (or rather, mishandled) all of this mess.

117 darthstar  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:15:53pm

re: #111 Alouette

What. The. Freaking. Fuck.

Pope’s preacher: Accusations against Vatican in sex-abuse scandal akin to anti-Semitism

The Vatican plays the “anti-Semitism” card. This is surreal.

The Church was quick to release a statement saying that the views of the Pope’s personal minister are not the official views of the Church itself…kind of tough to argue when the speaker is basically your figure-head, but hey, if they think they can get away with stupid rhetoric and using Godwin’s law as an argument, it’s their boogie.

And as Frank Zappa would say, “Ain’t this boogie a mess?”

118 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:16:11pm

A man was walking down the street and walked past a shop which displayed a window full of clocks and watches. He went inside and said to the shopkeeper, “I would like to buy a new watchband.”

“I can’t help you,” said the shopkeeper. “I’m not a watchmaker, I’m a mohel.”

“Why is your window full of watches?”

“What would you put in the window?”

119 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:17:22pm

re: #116 reine.de.tout

Absolutely wrong.

The “accusations” against the Pope and the Vatican that they refuse to see the problem and act appropriately, are right on target. Other “accusations” that the Pope and/or his brother were abusive (or close to abusiveness and did nothing) seem to be accurate, as well.

There are many many Catholics here in the US who are stunned, and frankly, hurting a lot, because of how the Church authorities have handled (or rather, mishandled) all of this mess.

And let me say flat out to you, that I have always felt the greatest respect for people like you and that you have my great sympathy for having to deal with something that must be immensely painful.

120 darthstar  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:17:40pm

re: #118 Alouette

A man was walking down the street and walked past a shop which displayed a window full of clocks and watches. He went inside and said to the shopkeeper, “I would like to buy a new watchband.”

“I can’t help you,” said the shopkeeper. “I’m not a watchmaker, I’m a mohel.”

“Why is your window full of watches?”

“What would you put in the window?”

Funny…I’ll forward that one to my dad.

121 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:18:19pm

re: #118 Alouette

A man was walking down the street and walked past a shop which displayed a window full of clocks and watches. He went inside and said to the shopkeeper, “I would like to buy a new watchband.”

“I can’t help you,” said the shopkeeper. “I’m not a watchmaker, I’m a mohel.”

“Why is your window full of watches?”

“What would you put in the window?”

That’s like the mohel who had a wallet that turned into a suitcase if you tickled it.

122 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:19:07pm

A Jew was walking through a park in Moscow on a beautiful spring day. A stray dog ran behind him. A police officer yelled, “hey you! Put your dog on a leash or I’ll give you a citation!”

The Jew ignored him and walked on.

The officer ran behind him. “Hey you! Put your dog on a leash or I’ll arrest you!”

The Jew said, “Why are you bothering me? That’s not my dog.”

“So why is it running after you?”

“You’re also running after me and you’re not my dog.”

123 Gus  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:19:13pm

Rush swipes back at Obama, says many ‘fear for their country’

“I and most Americans do not believe President Obama is trying to do what’s best for the country,” he wrote. “Never in my life have I seen a regime like this, governing against the will of the people, purposely. I have never seen the media so supportive of a regime amassing so much power. And I have never known as many people who literally fear for the future of the country.”

124 pingjockey  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:19:26pm

re: #121 LudwigVanQuixote

I am going to have to get a Hebrew/English dictionary, or is mohel yiddish?

125 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:19:52pm

re: #124 pingjockey

I am going to have to get a Hebrew/English dictionary, or is mohel yiddish?

He’s the guy who circumcises you.

126 austin_blue  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:19:55pm

re: #58 Jaerik

Every pro-life argument inevitably comes down to the foundational assertion that a fetus is a baby.

I’m not a fan of organized religion, but I respect that it’s very important to some people. And so I would be a lot more sympathetic to the religious pro-life side if someone could give me a rational, internally consistent, religious argument from Scripture that establishes this fact.

Unfortunately, I can’t find any. Vague excerpts like Isaiah 1:5 are equally balanced by Talmud references saying quite explicitly that abortion is a property crime. And the stance can’t even be argued by Appeal to Tradition: we’ve traditionally always established personhood at birth. Hence why we have birth certificates, not conception certificates.

Thus, the whole thing seems like an artificial wedge issue conjured up by earthly, ecclesiastical sources as a political power grab. I don’t fault pro-life folks who feel very strongly that abortion is wrong based on their preconception that a fetus is a child — I just doubt the good-faith intentions of those who convinced them as much on incredibly shaky grounds.

You make a good point.

I’ve always thought of it this way:

We have a very good definition of human death. If there is no functional forebrain, there is no human. This is why we harvest organs from “dead” humans to save the living.

Why doesn’t this apply to the unborn? A twenty week old fetus simply doesn’t have the neurons to have a functional forebrain. The hindbrain will keep it breathing and it’s heart beating but it will die from lack of lung development. Surviving outside of the womb before 24 weeks is highly unlikely and before 22 weeks just doesn’t happen.

Yes, yes, I know, it’s a *potential* human, but that doesn’t make me a millionaire when I buy a lotto ticket.

127 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:20:09pm

re: #124 pingjockey

I am going to have to get a Hebrew/English dictionary, or is mohel yiddish?

“mohel” - a Jewish man trained in the practice of circumcision.

So - what should he put in his window?

128 allegro  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:20:20pm

re: #119 LudwigVanQuixote

Something I’ve been thinking about from the last thread when you talked about kosher meat and your dogs. Pardon my ignorance, please - but the dog food you buy is not made from kosher meat but that’s OK to have and store, I assume. Is the issue having non-kosher meat or handling it?

129 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:20:21pm

AAArrgghhh!
Yet another sell-out to the superstition lobby:
Hot-air reports that Rudy Giuliani intends to endorse creationist nutcase Marco Rubio against former governor (and current sane guy) Charlie Crist in the Florida senatorial primary.

(No link here, but you know where to find it)

130 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:20:33pm

re: #124 pingjockey

I am going to have to get a Hebrew/English dictionary, or is mohel yiddish?

A mohel is a man who does circumcisions. BBIAB.

131 darthstar  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:20:35pm

re: #123 Gus 802

Rush swipes back at Obama, says many ‘fear for their country’

I believe Rush has genuine blood-lust, and really wants to see some people get violent so he can comment on it as evidence that the President is destroying the country.

132 ~Fianna  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:20:45pm

re: #127 reine.de.tout

“mohel” - a Jewish man trained in the practice of circumcision.

So - what should he put in his window?

Cigar cutters?

133 Ojoe  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:21:00pm

re: #123 Gus 802

That also sounds like Pacifica Radio referring to the Bush presidency

134 pingjockey  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:21:07pm

re: #125 LudwigVanQuixote
Aha. Well I was born in a non Jewish hospital and I figure the doc did it.

135 darthstar  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:21:10pm

re: #127 reine.de.tout

“mohel” - a Jewish man trained in the practice of circumcision.

So - what should he put in his window?

“I work for tips”?

136 austin_blue  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:21:16pm

re: #125 LudwigVanQuixote

He’s the guy who circumcises you.

“Ah! But rub it and it turns into a two-suiter!”

137 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:21:32pm

I have heard that in 2007 someone actually came up with a new mohel joke that was not one of the 3,427 classical known variants.

138 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:21:33pm

re: #135 darthstar

“I work for tips”?

EW!

139 pingjockey  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:21:41pm

re: #127 reine.de.tout
Heh. That is a very good question!

140 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:22:06pm

re: #139 pingjockey

Heh. That is a very good question!

I sort of liked Fianna’s answer:

re: #132 ~Fianna

Cigar cutters?

141 Gus  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:22:07pm

re: #133 Ojoe

That also sounds like Pacifica Radio referring to the Bush presidency

It does. Calling it a regime then was wrong as it is now. Neither however negates the other.

142 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:22:14pm

re: #128 allegro

Something I’ve been thinking about from the last thread when you talked about kosher meat and your dogs. Pardon my ignorance, please - but the dog food you buy is not made from kosher meat but that’s OK to have and store, I assume. Is the issue having non-kosher meat or handling it?

The problem with pet food is not that it must be kosher meat, but can not contain any milk/meat combinations. Also, Passover presents unique pet care problems since most pet food contains chometz (leavening)

143 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:22:20pm

re: #127 reine.de.tout

“mohel” - a Jewish man trained in the practice of circumcision.

So - what should he put in his window?

Well if he is in the north, his sign should be a big sail boat. He is afterall a Yankee Clipper!

144 austin_blue  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:22:34pm

re: #132 ~Fianna

Cigar cutters?

((cringe))

145 Ojoe  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:22:40pm

re: #141 Gus 802

They are both bad.

146 darthstar  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:22:51pm

When my aunt bought a mink coat several years ago, she was showing it off and said to my dad, “It’s made of forty-two skins!” My dad replied, “Forty-two skins! I’ve heard of foreskins, but never forty-two skins!”

147 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:22:51pm

re: #137 LudwigVanQuixote

I have heard that in 2007 someone actually came up with a new mohel joke that was not one of the 3,427 classical known variants.

Spit it out, man!

148 pingjockey  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:23:25pm

re: #140 reine.de.tout
That is pretty good.

149 brookly red  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:24:24pm

re: #146 darthstar

When my aunt bought a mink coat several years ago, she was showing it off and said to my dad, “It’s made of forty-two skins!” My dad replied, “Forty-two skins! I’ve heard of foreskins, but never forty-two skins!”

size matters…

150 allegro  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:25:00pm

re: #142 Alouette

The problem with pet food is not that it must be kosher meat, but can not contain any milk/meat combinations. Also, Passover presents unique pet care problems since most pet food contains chometz (leavening)

Wow, that is fascinating. Stuff I never thought about. Thanks!

151 brookly red  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:25:20pm

re: #147 Alouette

Spit it out, man!

you don’t know how funny that is…

152 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:25:38pm

re: #76 Alouette

If you think job hunting is Teh Suck, try being over 50 and job hunting.

Speaking of that, I did get my offer email for a job I interviewed for this week. I’m going to0 talk about it with my parents, but I’ve provisionally accepted the offer and will fill out the paperwork on Monday.

153 austin_blue  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:26:53pm

re: #152 Dark_Falcon

Speaking of that, I did get my offer email for a job I interviewed for this week. I’m going to0 talk about it with my parents, but I’ve provisionally accepted the offer and will fill out the paperwork on Monday.

Good! Same field of endeavor?

154 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:27:35pm

re: #152 Dark_Falcon

Speaking of that, I did get my offer email for a job I interviewed for this week. I’m going to0 talk about it with my parents, but I’ve provisionally accepted the offer and will fill out the paperwork on Monday.

You’ll enjoy working for the Nigerian Courier Service :)

155 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:27:50pm

re: #40 Ojoe

I was raised Catholic but at one time I sent the Pope a postcard saying “I quit” (years ago). I’m not sure it made any difference though.

We were supposed to send a postcard to the Pope? Damn. All I did was write a drunken missive to my Mom. Does that mean I’m still officially part of the club?

/On a side note, drunk missives rank right up there with drunk dialing, but there’s written evidence. I don’t recommend it.

156 brookly red  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:27:55pm

re: #76 Alouette

If you think job hunting is Teh Suck, try being over 50 and job hunting.

experience & treachery will overcome youth & exuberance every time…

157 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:28:01pm

re: #143 LudwigVanQuixote

Well if he is in the north, his sign should be a big sail boat. He is afterall a Yankee Clipper!

Unless he was born and raised in the South. Down there, you best not call a local ‘Yankee” anything. Some workers from Latin America have had to be warned about that.

158 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:28:31pm

re: #128 allegro

Something I’ve been thinking about from the last thread when you talked about kosher meat and your dogs. Pardon my ignorance, please - but the dog food you buy is not made from kosher meat but that’s OK to have and store, I assume. Is the issue having non-kosher meat or handling it?

Dogs are not required to keep kosher. That is not the issue.

The issue is that I want to keep my kitchen kosher and buying non-kosher meat for them is a problem.

There are some who hold that you can not buy pet food that has a mixture of milk and meat. I personally think that is very strict, since I am not going to eat it, and I did not cook it.

This is what is called a chumra. A chumra is a strict ruling that is put in place to prevent you from breaking that law.

If I buy a cheeseburger, but don’t eat it, I have not broken the law. However, there are all sorts of restrictions that say don’t buy it in the first place lest you get tempted, or confuse people as to why a guy in a keepah were buying a cheeseburger.

Some extend that to dogs too. I personally don’t get that.

159 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:29:01pm

re: #153 austin_blue

Good! Same field of endeavor?

Somewhat different. This will be inside sales, not retail. I’m at my parents house and will be in and out for a while.

160 KingKenrod  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:29:19pm

re: #123 Gus 802

Rush swipes back at Obama, says many ‘fear for their country’

The right has been purposefully co-opting the language of the left more and more. This statement is interchangeable with just about any post-Iraq, post-Partriot Act leftist position on Bush.

161 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:29:51pm

Every human being is not a person. Seriously, if anybody is still confused I can draw them a ven diagram. Sentience matters, that is the speculative criteria upon which we define so called “brain death.” When the very parts of the organ that make someone self aware die off, we (well, most people) rightfully no longer treat them as an individual person with rights, because their body is no longer physiologically capable of functioning as one.

The outcome of the insane fiasco surrounding Terri Schiavo should have settled whatever remnant of this legal debate that might have once existed. The embracing of extra judicial killing stands as testament to the militant pro-lifer’s inability to rationalize.

162 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:29:51pm

re: #134 pingjockey

Aha. Well I was born in a non Jewish hospital and I figure the doc did it.

Most American babies are circumcised these days. There are many medical benefits to the procedure.

163 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:30:09pm

re: #108 LudwigVanQuixote

Me:

Sex: Male

Age: Thirtysomething

Likes: Reading. My fiancee. Cooking.

Religion: Atheist with a religious attitude towards life:

Dislikes: People who don’t like reading.


Another Jewish joke:

A Jewish lady named Mrs. Rosenberg who many years ago was stranded late one night at a fashionable resort - one that did not admit Jews.

The desk clerk looked down at his book and said, “Sorry, no room. The hotel is full.”

The Jewish lady said, “But your sign says that you have vacancies.”

The desk clerk stammered and then said curtly, “You know that we do not admit Jews. Now if you will try the other side of town…”

Mrs. Rosenberg sniffed and said, “I’ll have you know I know more about your religion than you do.”

The desk clerk said, “Oh, yeah, let me give you a little test. How was Jesus born?”

Mrs. Rosenberg replied, “He was born to a virgin named Mary in a little town called Bethlehem.”

“Very good,” replied the hotel clerk. “Tell me more.”

Mrs. Rosenberg replied, “He was born in a manger.”

“That’s right,” said the hotel clerk. “And why was he born in a manger?”

Mrs. Rosenberg said loudly, “Because a jerk like you in the hotel wouldn’t give a Jewish lady a room for the night!”

164 austin_blue  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:30:18pm

re: #159 Dark_Falcon

Somewhat different. This will be inside sales, not retail. I’m at my parents house and will be in and out for a while.

Beat of luck, my man!

165 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:30:45pm

Winston and I just came in…Little bastard just peed on my car..He pissed on the Beemer! You know..I don’t care if you pee on every tree in the yard..
But not the car…I screamed at Winston..But it was too late for him..He just looked at me…Little bastard! LOL

166 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:31:36pm

re: #147 Alouette

Spit it out, man!

The joke is that there are thousands of known classical variants ;)

167 pingjockey  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:31:37pm

re: #162 LudwigVanQuixote
This was a while ago, 1959. Howeve,r my youngest is and he was born in 2000.

168 celticdragon  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:32:01pm

celticdragon

Transgendered woman, still married to wife. 42. One mildly autistic 9 year old son who is now addicted to all things Star Trek :D
Recovering Republican, still in need of 12 step program. Senior in geology at Guilford College and preparing to start looking for masters program in geology in North Carolina.

Likes: Geology. Ballet, especially Giselle. Warhammer fantasy and 40,000 games. Celtic music and anything Scottish or Irish. Playing Celtic harp. Going to Highland Games. Revolutionary War re-enacting. Shooting rifles and my brand new Brown Bess musket. Battlestar Galactica and Caprica. Historical adventure movies like Master and Commander, and science fiction, especially Blade Runner. Anything Star Trek or Lord of The Rings.

Casablanca

. I love reading history and particularly World War II, Civil War and Rev War history as well as Napoleanic history. Classical Greek and Roman as well. Looking at new military technology, especially tanks and cool new fighters from Sukhoi…

Sunset in the desert.

Political blogging too…

Dislikes: Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin. The Family Research Council. Maggy Gallagher and anybody else who wants to stick his or her nose into my marriage where it is not wanted because they think God gave them permission. Gun control advocates. Racists. Young Earth Creationists. Anybody who seems proud to be scientifically or historically illiterate. Hamas, Hezbollah and any other Islamo-wacko group. Anybody who tries to pass off female genital mutilation as “circumcision”. Rap music. Raunchy comedies. Lee Atwater/Karl Rove types of any political persuasion. Brussel sprouts and canned spinach. Corporations who ship our jobs overseas. Hedge fund managers, on general principle.


Hope this helps!

169 brookly red  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:32:41pm

re: #161 goddamnedfrank

Every human being is not a person.

I do get your point, but I would not what to be the one credited with posting it, if you know what I mean.

170 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:33:01pm

re: #152 Dark_Falcon

Speaking of that, I did get my offer email for a job I interviewed for this week. I’m going to0 talk about it with my parents, but I’ve provisionally accepted the offer and will fill out the paperwork on Monday.

Great news, DF!
Good to hear it.

171 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:33:35pm

re: #65 Walter L. Newton

As I said above, I was leaving what I knew as your business.

Hmm. Didn’t I show you my Baltic amber rosary while I was there, bought in flusher days?

I guess you thought it was just for show…

No matter.

172 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:34:42pm

re: #60 SanFranciscoZionist

“Three times I took the name of the Lord in vain, twice I was angry with my mother, once I slept with the brother of my fiance, and I bounced a check on the liquor store, but I didn’t really mean to.”

“Then it’s not a sin.”

“Thank you, Father.”

“Now, that other thing…”

NAME THAT MOVIE!!!

No idea. Please reveal.

173 darthstar  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:35:45pm

Mmmm…Guiness Draught. I figure I can have one before calling this candidate. So far, it’s been a beautiful day…snowing steadily. I pulled into the driveway an hour ago and my car’s tracks are already gone. Should be another foot or so of light powder to plow through tomorrow morning.

174 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:36:01pm

re: #165 HoosierHoops

At least he peed on the outside of the car!
Hi you!

175 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:36:19pm

re: #152 Dark_Falcon

Speaking of that, I did get my offer email for a job I interviewed for this week. I’m going to0 talk about it with my parents, but I’ve provisionally accepted the offer and will fill out the paperwork on Monday.

That is great news D_F..
Good luck bro!

176 Gus  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:36:49pm

Here’s a good one.

East Tennessee man attempts citizen’s arrest of grand jury foreman
By Staff Report
Published April 2nd, 2010

MADISONVILLE — A Sweetwater man who attempted a citizen’s arrest against the Monroe County grand jury foreman found himself under arrest.

It was not an ordinary meeting of the grand jury Thursday when Walter Francis Fitzpatrick III entered the courtroom around 10 a.m. and told Foreman Gary Pettway he was under citizen’s arrest for fraud, treason and forgery.

Fitzpatrick said he was making the arrest because Pettway has been in the position for 27 years. Madisonville Police Chief Gregg Breeden said police were requested to enter the courtroom and observed Fitzpatrick attempting to make a citizen’s arrest on Pettway.

Walter Francis Fitzpatrick III is Lt. Commander Walter Francis Fitzpatrick or this crackpot:

In his complaint addressed to Obama via U.S Attorney Russell Dedrick and Assistant U.S. Attorney Edward Schmutzer, Eastern District, Tennessee, Fitzpatrick wrote: “I have observed and extensively recorded invidious attacks by military-political aristocrats against the Constitution for twenty years.”Now you have broken in and entered the White House by force of contrivance, concealment, conceit, dissembling, and deceit. Posing as an impostor president and commander in chief you have stripped civilian command and control over the military establishment.”

177 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:36:51pm

re: #171 Cato the Elder

Hmm. Didn’t I show you my Baltic amber rosary while I was there, bought in flusher days?

I guess you thought it was just for show…

No matter.

You did, but I wasn’t going to assume that it had anything to do with your religious proclivities, past, present or otherwise. We celebrate Passover every year but the whole family is atheists.

I was just respecting your privacy.

178 pingjockey  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:36:52pm

re: #165 HoosierHoops

He has to mark his territory. The car is part of his territory!

179 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:37:11pm

I very happy for DF’s new gig! Congrats!

180 austin_blue  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:37:32pm

re: #168 celticdragon

celticdragon

Transgendered woman, still married to wife. 42. One mildly autistic 9 year old son who is now addicted to all things Star Trek :D
Recovering Republican, still in need of 12 step program. Senior in geology at Guilford College and preparing to start looking for masters program in geology in North Carolina.

Likes: Geology. Ballet, especially Giselle. Warhammer fantasy and 40,000 games. Celtic music and anything Scottish or Irish. Playing Celtic harp. Going to Highland Games. Revolutionary War re-enacting. Shooting rifles and my brand new Brown Bess musket. Battlestar Galactica and Caprica. Historical adventure movies like Master and Commander, and science fiction, especially Blade Runner. Anything Star Trek or Lord of The Rings.

. I love reading history and particularly World War II, Civil War and Rev War history as well as Napoleanic history. Classical Greek and Roman as well. Looking at new military technology, especially tanks and cool new fighters from Sukhoi…

Sunset in the desert.

Political blogging too…

Dislikes: Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin. The Family Research Council. Maggy Gallagher and anybody else who wants to stick his or her nose into my marriage where it is not wanted because they think God gave them permission. Gun control advocates. Racists. Young Earth Creationists. Anybody who seems proud to be scientifically or historically illiterate. Hamas, Hezbollah and any other Islamo-wacko group. Anybody who tries to pass off female genital mutilation as “circumcision”. Rap music. Raunchy comedies. Lee Atwater/Karl Rove types of any political persuasion. Brussel sprouts and canned spinach. Corporations who ship our jobs overseas. Hedge fund managers, on general principle.

Hope this helps!

She Who Must Be Obeyed got one of these last October:

starfishdesigns.co.uk

Great instrument!

We are off to the Edinburgh Harp Festival next week.

181 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:37:40pm

re: #169 brookly red

I do get your point, but I would not what to be the one credited with posting it, if you know what I mean.

I say what I think, and I’m goddamned frank about it. Pussy footing around the truth gets people nowhere, you’ve got to deal with that shit head on.

182 researchok  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:38:57pm

re: #176 Gus 802

Here’s a good one.

East Tennessee man attempts citizen’s arrest of grand jury foreman
By Staff Report
Published April 2nd, 2010

That’s what you get when you fluoridate water.

//

183 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:39:26pm

re: #165 HoosierHoops

Winston and I just came in…Little bastard just peed on my car..He pissed on the Beemer! You know..I don’t care if you pee on every tree in the yard..
But not the car…I screamed at Winston..But it was too late for him..He just looked at me…Little bastard! LOL

I woke up this morning to Crash shatter!

The whippet snuck out of bed and was counter surfing in the kitchen. Where he knows not to go if I am awake at least. He broke a glass I had left out. He was up there looking pathetic at me and didn’t want to hop back down on the kitchen floor. Which is a good thing since there was broken glass.

184 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:39:49pm

re: #181 goddamnedfrank

I say what I think, and I’m goddamned frank about it. Pussy footing around the truth gets people nowhere, you’ve got to deal with that shit head on.

When you say every human being is not a person, are you talking about certain people after they have been born?

185 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:40:52pm

re: #184 Walter L. Newton

When you say every human being is not a person, are you talking about certain people after they have been born?

Don’t get pedantic with him. His point was clear from his post.

186 celticdragon  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:41:17pm

re: #180 austin_blue

She Who Must Be Obeyed got one of these last October:

[Link: www.starfishdesigns.co.uk…]

Great instrument!

We are off to the Edinburgh Harp Festival next week.

Beautiful!! I have a Goldsberry Mountain Lupine 36 string named Deirdre.

I would really like to get a Dusty Strings or Lionwood, but I can’t even remotely afford anything like that yet. I promised my wife a set of Uillean pipes, and my son wants to start Highland Bagpipes as well, so they get priority.

Have fun at the harp festival :)

187 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:41:29pm

re: #184 Walter L. Newton

When you say every human being is not a person, are you talking about certain people after they have been born?

Terri Schiavo wasn’t dying per se, she was simply incapable of thought, so yes, quite clearly I am.

188 Gus  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:41:33pm

re: #182 researchok

That’s what you get when you fluoridate water.

//

Here he is going psycho in the courthouse:

Retired Navy Commander Walter Fitzpatrick III / indictments on President Obama for treason

Youtube Video

That was last December.

189 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:41:43pm

re: #183 LudwigVanQuixote

I woke up this morning to Crash shatter!

The whippet snuck out of bed and was counter surfing in the kitchen. Where he knows not to go if I am awake at least. He broke a glass I had left out. He was up there looking pathetic at me and didn’t want to hop back down on the kitchen floor. Which is a good thing since there was broken glass.

Good, smart dog.

You know dogs are people because they experience shame and guilt.

Cats, on the other hand, just stalk around demanding treats while you clean up the mess.

190 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:41:44pm

re: #178 pingjockey

He has to mark his territory. The car is part of his territory!

Little bastard just marked a red M3! I gave him a little smack while he ran into the house….I don’t think he was buying it…Little bastard!
LOL

191 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:42:26pm

re: #161 goddamnedfrank

Every human being is not a person. Seriously, if anybody is still confused I can draw them a ven diagram. Sentience matters, that is the speculative criteria upon which we define so called “brain death.” When the very parts of the organ that make someone self aware die off, we (well, most people) rightfully no longer treat them as an individual person with rights, because their body is no longer physiologically capable of functioning as one.

The outcome of the insane fiasco surrounding Terri Schiavo should have settled whatever remnant of this legal debate that might have once existed. The embracing of extra judicial killing stands as testament to the militant pro-lifer’s inability to rationalize.

That is what you believe, and I respect your right to believe what you want and will not try to convince you otherwise.

I believe life begins at conception. And no amount of arrogant proclamations by you will change that. And you’ve already made it quite clear that you will not respect anyone who thinks differently from you on this, so no need to respond.

192 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:42:40pm

re: #189 Cato the Elder

Good, smart dog.

You know dogs are people because they experience shame and guilt.

Cats, on the other hand, just stalk around demanding treats while you clean up the mess.

Cats are Democrats?

193 pingjockey  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:43:10pm

re: #190 HoosierHoops
At least it wasn’t a Great Dane and could actually pee on the car, and not a tire!

194 celticdragon  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:43:12pm

re: #192 CyanSnowHawk

Cats are Democrats?

LMAO!

195 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:43:24pm

re: #187 goddamnedfrank

Terri Schiavo wasn’t dying per se, she was simply incapable of thought, so yes, quite clearly I am.

Dangerous fucking ground, my friend.

If being incapable of thought were reason enough to put a person down, several Lizards would be in dire jeopardy.

196 Gus  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:43:47pm

Video!

Birther arrested.

Walter Fitzpatrick - Birth Moron arrested.flv

Youtube Video
197 darthstar  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:44:07pm

Listening to someone try to defend the “three days or else” notices sent to over 30 governors by various militia groups on the EdLaurence Show. Freedom of speech. “or else” is just a figure of speech and doesn’t make it a threat…jesus.

198 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:44:26pm

re: #189 Cato the Elder

Good, smart dog.

You know dogs are people because they experience shame and guilt.

Cats, on the other hand, just stalk around demanding treats while you clean up the mess.

I’ve read papers that suggest that Dogs have an intelligence equivalent to a human two or three year old.

It is certainly true that they are very openly emotional and affectionate creatures.

199 celticdragon  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:44:35pm

re: #195 Cato the Elder

Dangerous fucking ground, my friend.

If being incapable of thought were reason enough to put a person down, several Lizards would be in dire jeopardy.

Ouch.

200 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:44:36pm

re: #187 goddamnedfrank

Terri Schiavo wasn’t dying per se, she was simply incapable of thought, so yes, quite clearly I am.

Just wanted clarification on your comment. Why the attitude? I was just asking. For a matter of fact, I totally agree with you.

201 compound idaho  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:44:58pm

re: #113 Gus 802

My name is not Rex. Just in case anyone was wondering.

202 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:45:02pm

re: #192 CyanSnowHawk

Cats are Democrats?

hahaha!
You know what - they are!
I have a houseful of cats (well, 4 currently).

203 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:45:03pm

re: #195 Cato the Elder

Dangerous fucking ground, my friend.

If being incapable of thought were reason enough to put a person down, several Lizards would be in dire jeopardy.

But would that be a bad thing really?

////

204 darthstar  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:45:28pm

re: #201 compound idaho

My name is not Rex. Just in case anyone was wondering.

Don’t worry about it, Fido.

205 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:45:28pm

re: #197 darthstar

Listening to someone try to defend the “three days or else” notices sent to over 30 governors by various militia groups on the EdLaurence Show. Freedom of speech. “or else” is just a figure of speech and doesn’t make it a threat…jesus.

I’m wondering if they sent those notices to all 50 and 20 of them just ignored it. (Or didn’t call a press conference to announce it.)

206 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:45:54pm

re: #191 reine.de.tout

That is what you believe, and I respect your right to believe what you want and will not try to convince you otherwise.

I believe life begins at conception. And no amount of arrogant proclamations by you will change that. And you’ve already made it quite clear that you will not respect anyone who thinks differently from you on this, so no need to respond.

I’m talking about sentience, not life. Terri Schiavo was alive, and she was also incapable of thought. I also meant “militant” pro-lifer in terms of people who support Roeder, I doubt you fit into that category.

207 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:46:00pm

re: #185 LudwigVanQuixote

Don’t get pedantic with him. His point was clear from his post.

Don’t get in the middle of my questions, I was simply asking for a clarification from him. He gave it to me, and I actually agree with him. And I probably would consider certain humans less of a person than he would.

208 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:46:26pm

re: #205 CyanSnowHawk

Heh. Maybe 20 of them have aides with discretionary powers broad enough to say, “Well, that’s from a crazy person, so that goes in the ‘crazy person’ pile, which I use for compost”.

209 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:46:42pm

re: #192 CyanSnowHawk

Cats are Democrats?

gotta watch that projection… I think the party that is into giving extra benefits to the aloof and superior class, while others do all the work for them, who were destined from birth to rule is not the Dems…

210 brookly red  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:46:42pm

re: #181 goddamnedfrank

I say what I think, and I’m goddamned frank about it. Pussy footing around the truth gets people nowhere, you’ve got to deal with that shit head on.

as you like it…

211 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:47:04pm

re: #196 Gus 802

Video!

Birther arrested.

Walter Fitzpatrick - Birth Moron arrested.flv

So that’s what Pamz looks like without makeup.

212 pingjockey  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:48:38pm

re: #211 Cato the Elder
I went and wandered around his website. Madness rulz.

213 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:50:17pm

re: #209 LudwigVanQuixote

gotta watch that projection… I think the party that is into giving extra benefits to the aloof and superior class, while others do all the work for them, who were destined from birth to rule is not the Dems…

joke
   /dʒoʊk/ Show Spelled [johk] noun, verb, joked, jok·ing.
–noun
1. something said or done to provoke laughter or cause amusement, as a witticism, a short and amusing anecdote, or a prankish act: He tells very funny jokes. She played a joke on him.
2. something that is amusing or ridiculous, esp. because of being ludicrously inadequate or a sham; a thing, situation, or person laughed at rather than taken seriously; farce: Their pretense of generosity is a joke. An officer with no ability to command is a joke.
3. a matter that need not be taken very seriously; trifling matter: The loss was no joke.
4. something that does not present the expected challenge; something very easy: The test was a joke for the whole class.
5. practical joke.

–verb (used without object)
6. to speak or act in a playful or merry way: He was always joking with us.
7. to say something in fun or teasing rather than in earnest; be facetious: He didn’t really mean it, he was only joking.

–verb (used with object)
8. to subject to jokes; make fun of; tease.
9. to obtain by joking: The comedian joked coins from the audience.


Try not to read too much into it Ludwig.

214 Randall Gross  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:51:47pm

Sheesh…. it used to be just the left that went batshit crazy in the Spring… now all these old crazed goats on right think they have horns and want to get out and butt trees…

215 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:51:51pm

re: #213 CyanSnowHawk

Ahhh falsehood… something which is still false even if you claim you were joking.

216 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:52:01pm

re: #208 Obdicut

Heh. Maybe 20 of them have aides with discretionary powers broad enough to say, “Well, that’s from a crazy person, so that goes in the ‘crazy person’ pile, which I use for compost”.

Either that or the process to get the mail to the Governor is a little slow in some States.

217 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:52:44pm

re: #162 LudwigVanQuixote

Most American babies are circumcised these days. There are many medical benefits to the procedure.

A friend of mine is a far-gone football fanatic. He despises the Washington Redskins for some reason and calls them the Foreskins: “They’re not just dicks, they’re the part of a dick you cut off and throw away.”

218 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:52:56pm

re: #179 LudwigVanQuixote

I very happy for DF’s new gig! Congrats!

Thanks folks. I really hope this works out.

219 webevintage  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:53:01pm

Sooooo, are any of you guys buying an ipad?

(i’m a no, for no other reason then lack of cash)

220 brookly red  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:53:24pm

re: #214 Thanos

Sheesh… it used to be just the left that went batshit crazy in the Spring… now all these old crazed goats on right think they have horns and want to get out and butt trees…

/when tree butters & tree huggers collide… sounds like a goof.

221 darthstar  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:55:09pm

re: #219 webevintage

I may get one for my wife (after I’ve had time to hear back from people who I know will buy it and put it through its paces).

222 shai_au  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:55:39pm

Wait… the judge stopped him to say “It is not a forum for you to get on a soapbox for you to give your entire political beliefs”. You just let him go on about them for forty bloody minutes!

223 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:55:42pm

re: #219 webevintage

Sooo, are any of you guys buying an ipad?

(i’m a no, for no other reason then lack of cash)

I still think America is a laptop Nation.. I love em..
Of Course UPS will make deliveries with an iPad..Who cares?

224 SixDegrees  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:55:51pm

Apropos of not much - remember Florida’s Python Explosion? Seems that they’ve gotten at least a temporary reprieve for now.

225 webevintage  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:56:40pm

re: #192 CyanSnowHawk

Cats are Democrats?

Cats are a-political.
They have no need for such petty human constructs.
They are our Overlords and you best remember that.
Ceiling Cat AND Basement Cat are watching….always watching…

226 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:57:53pm

re: #221 darthstar

I may get one for my wife (after I’ve had time to hear back from people who I know will buy it and put it through its paces).

This probably wasn’t the best post to read right after this one, #217 Shiplord Kirel

227 celticdragon  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:58:31pm

re: #225 webevintage

Cats are a-political.
They have no need for such petty human constructs.
They are our Overlords and you best remember that.
Ceiling Cat AND Basement Cat are watching…always watching…

Mr Bibble detected some caffeine in the chocolate covered mice.

228 brookly red  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:58:37pm

re: #224 SixDegrees

Apropos of not much - remember Florida’s Python Explosion? Seems that they’ve gotten at least a temporary reprieve for now.

/I suspect python teriyaki is delicious

229 Gus  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:58:49pm

re: #225 webevintage

Cats are a-political.
They have no need for such petty human constructs.
They are our Overlords and you best remember that.
Ceiling Cat AND Basement Cat are watching…always watching…

Really? I always thought they were Maoists.

Meow mao! Mrow mao!

//

230 jeremy0114  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:59:12pm

re: #219 webevintage

Sooo, are any of you guys buying an ipad?

(i’m a no, for no other reason then lack of cash)

Yeah, im an Apple fan boy… Pre ordered 2 of them, one with the 3G and one without.

They will be great for trips where you dont want to haul a coumpter around, or to throw at the kids to watch a movie in the back seat…

231 pingjockey  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 3:59:26pm

re: #224 SixDegrees

I like how they referenced the “plight” of the damn snake. They aren’t native and need to be wiped out.

232 Gus  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:00:06pm

re: #211 Cato the Elder

So that’s what Pamz looks like without makeup.

I’d pay to see The Shrieking Harpy or Robert Spencer get arrested.

233 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:00:14pm

re: #231 pingjockey

I like how they referenced the “plight” of the damn snake. They aren’t native and need to be wiped out.

Can’t we all just slither along?

234 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:00:20pm

re: #230 jeremy0114

Yeah, im an Apple fan boy… Pre ordered 2 of them, one with the 3G and one without.

They will be great for trips where you dont want to haul a coumpter around, or to throw at the kids to watch a movie in the back seat…

And… they all come without “flash,” what the hell good is that on the web?

235 brookly red  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:00:35pm

re: #231 pingjockey

I like how they referenced the “plight” of the damn snake. They aren’t native and need to be wiped out.

/Oh my…

236 webevintage  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:00:36pm

re: #223 HoosierHoops

I still think America is a laptop Nation.. I love em..
Of Course UPS will make deliveries with an iPad..Who cares?

I’m always surprised at how many people have laptops.
I don’t.
I’ve tried using a friends laptop for work and I guess I’m just stuck in my ways.
I think an iPad may be the toy for me though.
Maybe in a year or for Christmas.
It sucks to have a hubby who cares nothing for electronic toys.

237 austin_blue  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:00:59pm

re: #191 reine.de.tout

That is what you believe, and I respect your right to believe what you want and will not try to convince you otherwise.

I believe life begins at conception. And no amount of arrogant proclamations by you will change that. And you’ve already made it quite clear that you will not respect anyone who thinks differently from you on this, so no need to respond.

Reine-

I also believe that life begins at conception, but I believe that humanity begins with a functioning forebrain, just as human death, in the law, ends with the failure of the human forebrain. This allows human hearts to be removed for transplant.

There is a particularly nasty fetal developmental disorder called anencephaly:

en.wikipedia.org

I don’t think that this anyone’s idea of a human. It’s also one of the reasons that late term abortions are performed.

238 Uninformed Opinion  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:01:39pm

The Ipad just seems superfluous to me, I would rather have a laptop.

239 brookly red  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:01:51pm

re: #233 CyanSnowHawk

Can’t we all just slither along?

are you by any chance a congress person?

240 pingjockey  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:01:52pm

re: #235 brookly red
Guam now has no birds due to snakes getting there by stowing away in jets from SE Asia.

241 SixDegrees  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:02:18pm

re: #231 pingjockey

I like how they referenced the “plight” of the damn snake. They aren’t native and need to be wiped out.

I agree. Trouble is, you know they’re still around even now, but look how hard it is to find ‘em. You can knock their population back some, but now that they’ve gained a foothold they’re going to remain a problem. Their numbers will rise again unless the cold weather persists.

The state ought to put a bounty on ‘em. Although I suppose that might encourage people to breed ‘em in their basements or something.

242 jeremy0114  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:03:01pm

re: #234 Walter L. Newton

For the web browsing I do… it will work just fine for the most part.

I think ive been to youtube 3 times in my life… I like to read, and I get plenty of that content.

I am interested in the expanded email client in the iPad though… I use the one on my iPhone all the time, but it is small and cumbersome…

243 brookly red  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:03:46pm

re: #240 pingjockey

Guam now has no birds due to snakes getting there by stowing away in jets from SE Asia.

true, but try saying “indigenous” rather than native…

244 jeremy0114  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:04:25pm

re: #242 jeremy0114

Besides i run flashblock on all my web browsers, so I porb wont know the difference anyways! :-D

245 celticdragon  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:04:35pm

re: #229 Gus 802

Really? I always thought they were Maoists.

Meow mao! Mrow mao!

//

Heh! I worked at Disneyland in Anaheim back in the mid 80’s, and I learned to do a very realistic “cat in heat” or “pissed off hungry cat” set of calls. I was having some fun demonstrating this to a co-worker in a back stock room of one of the park restaurants. A rest room shared two of the walls, and apparently I could be heard in the ladies room. My supervisor found me a few minutes later and was laughing so hard he was nearly crying. He told me that the guests in the ladies room were going nuts trying to find the “cat” trapped in the bathroom…

He knew perfectly well that it was me!

246 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:04:45pm

re: #239 brookly red

are you by any chance a congress person?

I’m all in favor of it, as long as this is the definition of congress…

From Dictionary.com

7. coitus; sexual intercourse.

247 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:05:21pm

re: #236 webevintage

I’m always surprised at how many people have laptops.
I don’t.
I’ve tried using a friends laptop for work and I guess I’m just stuck in my ways.
I think an iPad may be the toy for me though.
Maybe in a year or for Christmas.
It sucks to have a hubby who cares nothing for electronic toys.

Good lord…I’m all about Technology.
I’m blogging with a Dell dual core and messing with my new HP Elitebook streaming movies on the Big screen…It’s really cool…

248 pingjockey  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:05:35pm

re: #241 SixDegrees
I remember the Orlando news back in ‘89 or ‘90. Some poor cable guy in the crawlspace under a house came face to face with a 300lb python. News footage showed 6 or 7 guys carrying this thing.

249 pingjockey  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:06:22pm

re: #243 brookly red
couldn’t remember how to spell indigenous!

250 Uninformed Opinion  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:06:25pm

anyone see this?

Jihad janes accomplice

251 SixDegrees  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:06:32pm

re: #248 pingjockey

I remember the Orlando news back in ‘89 or ‘90. Some poor cable guy in the crawlspace under a house came face to face with a 300lb python. News footage showed 6 or 7 guys carrying this thing.

They’re from Burma. Maybe we could collect them all and ship ‘em back home.

252 austin_blue  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:06:47pm

re: #247 HoosierHoops

Good lord…I’m all about Technology.
I’m blogging with a Dell dual core and messing with my new HP Elitebook streaming movies on the Big screen…It’s really cool…

Mac Mini here. The last with the Motorola chips. Fast, simple, bulletproof.

253 brookly red  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:07:45pm

re: #251 SixDegrees

They’re from Burma. Maybe we could collect them all and ship ‘em back home.

or bread em & deep fry em?

254 ~Fianna  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:07:47pm

re: #192 CyanSnowHawk

Cats are Democrats?

Monarchists, actually.

The problem with them getting together is that they all think they are the monarch and all other cats are pretenders.

255 Four More Tears  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:07:51pm

re: #247 HoosierHoops

Good lord…I’m all about Technology.
I’m blogging with a Dell dual core and messing with my new HP Elitebook streaming movies on the Big screen…It’s really cool…

Dual Core? Feh. Get with the times :P

256 austin_blue  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:07:52pm

re: #250 Uninformed Opinion

anyone see this?

Jihad janes accomplice

Broken link.

257 allegro  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:08:06pm

re: #241 SixDegrees

You can knock their population back some, but now that they’ve gained a foothold they’re going to remain a problem.

“Problem” is a matter of perception. The pythons and boas that have been released into a climate in which they are suited and able to thrive at this point means that they are part of the biosphere at this point. Whether this is a problem or not remains to be seen. They could actually find a beneficial niche.

258 Randall Gross  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:08:13pm

Eventually open computing will win over all the proprietary formats like Kindle, Ipad etc. At some point people will project on walls, or “wifi cast” to “shared pixel space” on walls. Their devices will be in their belts, hats, or glasses, and the batteries might be in the heels of their shoes. Computers and devices will become cheaper, more powerful, and more flexible. It’s really only just begun…

259 pingjockey  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:08:20pm

re: #251 SixDegrees
I don’t want to screw with any snake that weighs more than me!

260 Uninformed Opinion  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:08:43pm

re: #250 Uninformed Opinion

anyone see this?

JIhad Jane Accomplice

261 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:10:22pm

re: #251 SixDegrees

They’re from Burma. Maybe we could collect them all and ship ‘em back home.

Those former pets.

They eat the prey.

Mess up our habitat.

They shouldn’t stay.

Burma Snake.

262 allegro  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:11:13pm

re: #261 CyanSnowHawk

Did you just really date yourself?

263 blabla  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:11:48pm

‘Abuse critique like anti-Semitism’
By ASSOCIATED PRESS
02/04/2010 22:00

Pope’s preacher’s comment in sermon enrages Jewish groups, victims of clerical sex abuse.

VATICAN CITY — Pope Benedict XVI’s personal preacher on Friday likened accusations against the pope and the Catholic church in the sex abuse scandal to “collective violence” suffered by the Jews.

Reaction from Jewish groups and victims of clerical sex abuse ranged from skepticism to fury.

The Rev. Raniero Cantalamessa said in a Good Friday homily with the pope listening in St. Peter’s Basilica that a Jewish friend wrote to him to say the accusations remind him of the “more shameful aspects of anti-Semitism.” To read the whole story

264 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:12:05pm

re: #237 austin_blue

I’m aware of that disorder, and have known people who had such babies.
Very very very sad.

265 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:12:20pm

re: #261 CyanSnowHawk

Those former pets.

They eat the prey.

Mess up our habitat.

They shouldn’t stay.

Burma Snake.

I actually saw a real set of Burma Shave signs on the side of the road in the early 90s. It was in the San Juan Islands, north of Puget Sound. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was the last set in North America, as I’d never seen one before or since.

266 brookly red  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:12:40pm

re: #262 allegro

Did you just really date yourself?

naw, I had no idea what burma shave meant till I asked about it here…

267 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:13:05pm

re: #262 allegro

Did you just really date yourself?

I’m in more of a casual relationship with myself. You can’t really call it dating.

268 researchok  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:13:37pm

re: #188 Gus 802

Here he is going psycho in the courthouse:

Retired Navy Commander Walter Fitzpatrick III / indictments on President Obama for treason


[Video]That was last December.

There are two syndrome, whackadroite and whackagauche.

Clearly he is a whackadrote.

269 allegro  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:14:04pm

re: #267 CyanSnowHawk

I’m in more of a casual relationship with myself. You can’t really call it dating.

LOL The moment I hit the send key I KNEW there was gonna be that joke.

270 researchok  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:14:19pm

re: #258 Thanos

Eventually open computing will win over all the proprietary formats like Kindle, Ipad etc. At some point people will project on walls, or “wifi cast” to “shared pixel space” on walls. Their devices will be in their belts, hats, or glasses, and the batteries might be in the heels of their shoes. Computers and devices will become cheaper, more powerful, and more flexible. It’s really only just begun…

Another reason to lose weight….

271 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:14:25pm

re: #265 The Sanity Inspector

I actually saw a real set of Burma Shave signs on the side of the road in the early 90s. It was in the San Juan Islands, north of Puget Sound. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was the last set in North America, as I’d never seen one before or since.

I think there may be some still near Bunkie, Louisiana, which is a place no one ever goes.

272 brookly red  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:14:36pm

re: #267 CyanSnowHawk

I’m in more of a casual relationship with myself. You can’t really call it dating.

it is kinda tough asking your self to make a commitment… well for me anyway.

273 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:14:38pm

re: #234 Walter L. Newton

And… they all come without “flash,” what the hell good is that on the web?

Hopefully a world of good as it helps kill flash with a stake through it’s vampire heart?

William

274 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:15:22pm

re: #237 austin_blue

Reine-

I also believe that life begins at conception, but I believe that humanity begins with a functioning forebrain, just as human death, in the law, ends with the failure of the human forebrain. This allows human hearts to be removed for transplant.

There is a particularly nasty fetal developmental disorder called anencephaly:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

I don’t think that this anyone’s idea of a human. It’s also one of the reasons that late term abortions are performed.

I once knew a couple who discovered that the baby they were carrying had that disorder. They decided to carry it to term anyway, in keeping with their Christian beliefs. It spontaneously miscarried, though, and so they never had to really deal with the consequences of their decision.

Not casting aspersions on anyone’s opinion, just pointing out that even in such cases there are people for whom abortion is not the slam-dunk answer.

275 Gus  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:15:31pm

re: #245 celticdragon

Heh! I worked at Disneyland in Anaheim back in the mid 80’s, and I learned to do a very realistic “cat in heat” or “pissed off hungry cat” set of calls. I was having some fun demonstrating this to a co-worker in a back stock room of one of the park restaurants. A rest room shared two of the walls, and apparently I could be heard in the ladies room. My supervisor found me a few minutes later and was laughing so hard he was nearly crying. He told me that the guests in the ladies room were going nuts trying to find the “cat” trapped in the bathroom…

He knew perfectly well that it was me!

I’ve done cat imitations before including everyone’s favorite, bringing up the hairball.

276 Uninformed Opinion  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:15:33pm

re: #258 Thanos

Eventually open computing will win over all the proprietary formats like Kindle, Ipad etc. At some point people will project on walls, or “wifi cast” to “shared pixel space” on walls. Their devices will be in their belts, hats, or glasses, and the batteries might be in the heels of their shoes. Computers and devices will become cheaper, more powerful, and more flexible. It’s really only just begun…

I am waiting for the wireless chip in my head!

277 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:15:42pm

re: #252 austin_blue

Mac Mini here. The last with the Motorola chips. Fast, simple, bulletproof.

You know..Over the last 5 years..The meanest, Badest chip on the face of the Earth was the FX-57.. Just smoking hot pipes…It brought Intel back to Earth..
Sorry about your luck Intel..Placing the memory controller on the actual chip itself was genius..Fucked Intel up…Just genius…At that point..Nobody on the face of the Earth cared if the Controller was on the north face of the Motherboard..It just didn’t matter any more…Fetch calls did not go across the Bus.. Fucked Intel up…Sorry..The manager is on the Chip..Haha

278 What, me worry?  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:16:30pm

re: #263 blabla

‘Abuse critique like anti-Semitism’
By ASSOCIATED PRESS
02/04/2010 22:00

Pope’s preacher’s comment in sermon enrages Jewish groups, victims of clerical sex abuse.

VATICAN CITY — Pope Benedict XVI’s personal preacher on Friday likened accusations against the pope and the Catholic church in the sex abuse scandal to “collective violence” suffered by the Jews.

Reaction from Jewish groups and victims of clerical sex abuse ranged from skepticism to fury.

The Rev. Raniero Cantalamessa said in a Good Friday homily with the pope listening in St. Peter’s Basilica that a Jewish friend wrote to him to say the accusations remind him of the “more shameful aspects of anti-Semitism.” To read the whole story

Wow! That’s some messed up stuff right there.

Yeesh, I wish they’d make up their minds. I didn’t see the Church come to the defense of Israel during the infitada and when the Muslims were destroying the Christian sacred sites and driving them out of their cities. Sure didn’t want to be Jews then.

279 brookly red  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:16:48pm

re: #276 Uninformed Opinion

I am waiting for the wireless chip in my head!

sorry, I only want my chips with salsa…

280 ~Fianna  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:17:03pm

re: #274 The Sanity Inspector

I once knew a couple who discovered that the baby they were carrying had that disorder. They decided to carry it to term anyway, in keeping with their Christian beliefs. It spontaneously miscarried, though, and so they never had to really deal with the consequences of their decision.

Not casting aspersions on anyone’s opinion, just pointing out that even in such cases there are people for whom abortion is not the slam-dunk answer.

No one has to get them.

It should be an option for people who can’t or don’t wish to go through that.

281 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:17:27pm

re: #265 The Sanity Inspector

I actually saw a real set of Burma Shave signs on the side of the road in the early 90s. It was in the San Juan Islands, north of Puget Sound. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was the last set in North America, as I’d never seen one before or since.

There was (might still be) a false set here in San Diego on Highway 94 East just before getting into a long stretch where there are lots of accidents on winding and blind corners. It was some safety oriented poem.

I have only vague memories of seeing the real ones on a road trip in ‘69 through the Midwest. I was quite young.

282 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:18:01pm

re: #158 LudwigVanQuixote

Dogs are not required to keep kosher. That is not the issue.

The issue is that I want to keep my kitchen kosher and buying non-kosher meat for them is a problem.

There are some who hold that you can not buy pet food that has a mixture of milk and meat. I personally think that is very strict, since I am not going to eat it, and I did not cook it.

This is what is called a chumra. A chumra is a strict ruling that is put in place to prevent you from breaking that law.

If I buy a cheeseburger, but don’t eat it, I have not broken the law. However, there are all sorts of restrictions that say don’t buy it in the first place lest you get tempted, or confuse people as to why a guy in a keepah were buying a cheeseburger.

Some extend that to dogs too. I personally don’t get that.

Actually meat and milk is a more severe prohibition than non-kosher meat. Your pet can’t haz cheezburger.

283 webevintage  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:18:35pm

re: #263 blabla

‘Abuse critique like anti-Semitism’
By ASSOCIATED PRESS
02/04/2010 22:00

Pope’s preacher’s comment in sermon enrages Jewish groups, victims of clerical sex abuse.

head desk

shutupshutupshutupshutup
These guys just won’t stop saying stupid, offensive bull shit.
The “gather the wagons in a circle” mentality has to stop….

284 Gus  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:19:41pm

U.S. judge denies bail for militia group members

U.S. Magistrate Judge Donald Scheer said each defendant posed a flight risk and “would constitute an unacceptable risk of danger to the community at large, and to the law enforcement community in particular” if released on bail.

That would be for the Hutaree.

Looks like they added another mug shot. Lo and behold he fits right in.

285 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:21:23pm

MSNBC changed the headline of their health care story from “myths” to “fears”. The Lizard Army strikes again…??

286 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:23:36pm

re: #44 Shiplord Kirel

AAACCCHHH! PIMF! Story link:
Incoming Baylor University President to honor Intelligent Design professor

double-check that URL.

I smell a stinky.

287 brookly red  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:23:41pm

re: #285 The Sanity Inspector

MSNBC changed the headline of their health care story from “myths” to “fears”. The Lizard Army strikes again…??

there are more people in my zip code than people that watch MSNBCLOL

288 researchok  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:25:26pm

re: #282 Alouette

Actually meat and milk is a more severe prohibition than non-kosher meat. Your pet can’t haz cheezburger.

Evangers Kosher Dog Food.

Article is from the Chicago Tribune.

289 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:27:55pm

re: #288 researchok

Evangers Kosher Dog Food.

Article is from the Chicago Tribune.

I don’t have a dog, but I’ll keep that link in mind in case I may have to choose between food and healthcare.

290 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:29:35pm

re: #289 Alouette

Oh Alouette, I hope to everything that that never is a choice for you.

291 freetoken  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:29:52pm

Looming on the horizon like tomorrows sunrise:

Netbook Sales Sag as the iPad Arrives

Apple’s (AAPL) iPad is helping cool the computer industry’s netbook fever. Apple Chief Executive Steve Jobs has made no secret of his disdain for the popular, inexpensive mini-notebooks. “Netbooks aren’t better than anything. They’re just cheap laptops,” Jobs said at the Jan. 27 launch of the iPad tablet computer in San Francisco.

PC makers are starting to worry that consumers agree. The sales growth of netbooks, priced from $200 to $500 and resembling shrunk-down laptops, slowed markedly in the first quarter, according to market researcher IDC.

[…]

Falling sales aren’t the only problem dogging netbooks. There’s evidence that demand for netbook components is declining. The Web site DigiTimes reported on Mar. 30 that makers of the liquid-crystal-display panels used in netbooks are cutting production because of declining orders. PC makers including Hewlett-Packard (HPQ), Dell (DELL), and Acer declined to comment on whether inventories of unsold netbooks are on the rise.

[…]

Could iPad be sold out by early afternoon Saturday?

After weeks of buildup, iPads hit stores at 9 a.m. Saturday. They will be sold out by “early afternoon,” predicts tech analyst Richard Doherty of Envisioneering Group. Piper Jaffray analyst Gene Munster estimates Apple will sell 200,000 to 300,000 iPads this weekend and 1 million in the quarter.

link.brightcove.com

292 brookly red  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:29:59pm

re: #289 Alouette

I don’t have a dog, but I’ll keep that link in mind in case I may have to choose between food and healthcare.

not if, when

293 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:33:31pm

re: #282 Alouette

Actually meat and milk is a more severe prohibition than non-kosher meat. Your pet can’t haz cheezburger.

I am not going to try to dissuade you from seeing it that way.

However, I would imagine that blood or eating the flesh of a live creature is even more sever than milk and meat. The live flesh thing is after all a Noahide law.

Yet people kept cats and dogs as mousers and ratters for years.

However sever you think the restriction is, if puppy eats milk and meat, it is still a chumra!

294 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:34:25pm

re: #293 ludwigvanquixote

PIMF and darn keyboard!

I am not going to try to dissuade you from seeing it that way.

However, I would imagine that blood or eating the flesh of a live creature is even more severe than milk and meat. The live flesh thing is after all a Noahide law.

Yet people kept cats and dogs as mousers and ratters for years.

However severe you think the restriction is, if puppy eats milk and meat, it is still a chumra!

Also that said Good Shabbos! I gotta go!

295 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:34:29pm

re: #286 negativ

double-check that URL.

I smell a stinky.

You’re right. Ken “porno” Starr is not president of Baylor, incoming or otherwise, and this story does not appear at Jeffers’s Morning News homepage. The professor mentioned, Bob Marks, is not a creationist but he was apparently the target of this prank.

I’ll be back after I change my name, dye what is left of my hair, and slink out of town in the middle of the night.

296 freetoken  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:36:10pm

Since I’m waxing iPadish… dare I? Yes, I think I will:

The Evolution of Computers


WARNING: NSFW-EWPCU
(Not Safe For Work - Especially Where PCs Used)

297 webevintage  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:38:55pm

hahahahahahaha
wonkette.com

Elitist President talks lady to death after she asks a question about taxes.
“What a snob. Makes you long for the non-elitist days, when a president would respond to Doris’ question with a quick slap on the ass and a winking, “you’ll be alright, gorgeous, I’ll get those taxes out of the way.”

298 SixDegrees  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:42:53pm

re: #253 brookly red

or bread em & deep fry em?

That could work.

299 Achilles Tang  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:43:55pm

re: #158 LudwigVanQuixote

Dogs are not required to keep kosher. That is not the issue.

The issue is that I want to keep my kitchen kosher and buying non-kosher meat for them is a problem.

There are some who hold that you can not buy pet food that has a mixture of milk and meat. I personally think that is very strict, since I am not going to eat it, and I did not cook it.

This is what is called a chumra. A chumra is a strict ruling that is put in place to prevent you from breaking that law.

If I buy a cheeseburger, but don’t eat it, I have not broken the law. However, there are all sorts of restrictions that say don’t buy it in the first place lest you get tempted, or confuse people as to why a guy in a keepah were buying a cheeseburger.

Some extend that to dogs too. I personally don’t get that.

I have to ask; have you ever considered if your life would be any different in any significant way, or if it would simply fall apart, if you didn’t have these arbitrary rules to follow?

(yes, I realize you may not think they are arbitrary, but your scientist will)

300 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:45:01pm

re: #299 Naso Tang

The book Anathem, by Neil Stephenson, explores that question in a very nifty way. I highly recommend it.

You better like math, though, or you’ll hate it.

301 freetoken  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:47:55pm

re: #299 Naso Tang

My inner-snark wants me to post “FOODFIGHT!” over this… but my higher conscious is fighting back…

302 darthstar  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:52:54pm

Danger! Danger Will Robinson! Danger!

5 MINUTE CHOCOLATE MUG CAKE

4 tablespoons flour
4 tablespoons sugar
2 tablespoons cocoa
1 egg
3 tablespoons milk
3 tablespoons oil
3 tablespoons chocolate chips (optional)
A small splash of vanilla extract
1 large coffee mug

Add dry ingredients to mug, and mix well. Add the egg and mix thoroughly.

Pour in the milk and oil and mix well.

Add the chocolate chips (if using) and vanilla extract, and mix again.

Put your mug in the microwave and cook for 3 minutes at 1000 watts (high). The cake will rise over the top of the mug, but don’t be alarmed! Allow to cool a little, and tip out onto a plate if desired.

EAT! (this can serve 2 if you want to feel slightly more virtuous). And why is this the most dangerous cake recipe in the world? Because now we are all only 5 minutes away from chocolate cake at any time of the day or night!

303 freetoken  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:53:17pm

One more iPad-orgasm before I head off to the gym:

Men’s Health iPad Experience Is Somehow Better Than The Hype

It’s very easy to be skeptical of all the media lanscape-changing hype surrounding the iPad — in fact, we have not been immune to some classic cynicism ourselves. But we just had a fairly comprehensive walk-through of the Men’s Health iPad application, and consider us converted.

We have found media’s future religion and thy name is iPad. […]

In short, the iPad is remarkably beautiful and sensual and all the over the top words you’ve read. Perhaps more importantly, the iPad version of magazines adds the beauty, photography, and typography of print, with the robust service of video and the ease of sharing with Social Media. Killer app anyone?

They’ve almost got me convinced I should haul my butt down to the Apple store tomorrow and take a peek swipe.

304 researchok  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:53:22pm

re: #299 Naso Tang

I have to ask; have you ever considered if your life would be any different in any significant way, or if it would simply fall apart, if you didn’t have these arbitrary rules to follow?

(yes, I realize you may not think they are arbitrary, but your scientist will)

I have enough trouble sticking to an exercise regimen.

Whenever I try to leave the house, the ice cream in the freezer intensifies a kind of gravitational pull.

305 brookly red  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:53:40pm

re: #298 SixDegrees

That could work.

python recipes…
weblogs.sun-sentinel.com

306 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:53:55pm

re: #291 freetoken

Looming on the horizon like tomorrows sunrise:

Netbook Sales Sag as the iPad Arrives

[Link: link.brightcove.com…]

Part of the problem with netbooks is that they are underpowered for the OS and bloatware that some of the OEMs insist on loading on them (HP, I’m lookin’ at you). Windows 7, and even XP run like utter crap on any of them. Those machines beg for a well thought-out Linux installation. On my ancient, piece-o-crap Dell laptop, I have Arch Linux with the LXDE desktop. The whole thing only occupies ~70MB RAM, and I could probably get it down slightly if I compiled a kernel specifically tailored for that laptop.

I’ve been thinking about getting a netbook. I would probably enjoy an iPad, but I enjoy eating and paying rent even more, so I won’t be getting one any time soon.

307 researchok  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:54:14pm

re: #303 freetoken

One more iPad-orgasm before I head off to the gym:

Men’s Health iPad Experience Is Somehow Better Than The Hype

They’ve almost got me convinced I should haul my butt down to the Apple store tomorrow and take a peek swipe.

I hear the gym monitors will all be on IPads…

308 Achilles Tang  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:54:19pm

re: #300 Obdicut

The book Anathem, by Neil Stephenson, explores that question in a very nifty way. I highly recommend it.

You better like math, though, or you’ll hate it.

I will check it out, although I have this queasy feeling that someone is going to try to prove aspects of sentience with equations.

I love math, given that it describes what some call god; which is not to say I understand.

309 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:54:43pm

re: #278 marjoriemoon

Wow! That’s some messed up stuff right there.

Yeesh, I wish they’d make up their minds. I didn’t see the Church come to the defense of Israel during the infitada and when the Muslims were destroying the Christian sacred sites and driving them out of their cities. Sure didn’t want to be Jews then.

The scandal’s “clue meter” at the Vatican is still reading zero.

310 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:55:53pm

re: #192 CyanSnowHawk

Cats are Democrats?

And some of us are damn proud of it!

strangecosmos.com

311 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:56:27pm

re: #308 Naso Tang

It’s worse/better than the sentience thing; it’s kinda superstringy, with alternate universes and stuff. It’s a very interesting work, nonetheless.

312 freetoken  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:56:40pm

re: #304 researchok

Unlike the other four fundamental forces, the Chocolate Force and the IceCream Force are distant invariant.

Indeed, some have proposed that these latter two forces are really just manifestations of Dark Energy and will continue on forever increasing.

313 brookly red  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:56:50pm

re: #307 researchok

I hear the gym monitors will all be on IPads…

uhhh, what kind of gym has monitors… that’s a bit kinky.

314 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:57:46pm

re: #263 blabla

‘Abuse critique like anti-Semitism’
By ASSOCIATED PRESS
02/04/2010 22:00

Pope’s preacher’s comment in sermon enrages Jewish groups, victims of clerical sex abuse.

VATICAN CITY — Pope Benedict XVI’s personal preacher on Friday likened accusations against the pope and the Catholic church in the sex abuse scandal to “collective violence” suffered by the Jews.

Reaction from Jewish groups and victims of clerical sex abuse ranged from skepticism to fury.

The Rev. Raniero Cantalamessa said in a Good Friday homily with the pope listening in St. Peter’s Basilica that a Jewish friend wrote to him to say the accusations remind him of the “more shameful aspects of anti-Semitism.” To read the whole story


Image: NaziPriestsSaluteHitler.jpg

315 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:58:03pm

re: #299 Naso Tang

I have to ask; have you ever considered if your life would be any different in any significant way, or if it would simply fall apart, if you didn’t have these arbitrary rules to follow?

(yes, I realize you may not think they are arbitrary, but your scientist will)

One wonders… even if you believe in G-d, is it possible that these rules are simply a “goof” on humanity? If G-d is capable of being “all and everything” is he/she capable of capricious rules, for his enjoyment.

316 researchok  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:58:48pm

re: #313 brookly red

uhhh, what kind of gym has monitors… that’s a bit kinky.

My treadmill monitor yells at me in a Glen Beck voice. If I don’t pick up the pace, the voice starts to cry.

317 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 4:59:29pm

re: #315 Walter L. Newton

One wonders… even if you believe in G-d, is it possible that these rules are simply a “goof” on humanity? If G-d is capable of being “all and everything” is he/she capable of capricious rules, for his enjoyment.

Oh I think it’s quite obvious that G-d has a sense of humor. How else do you explain him/her leading the Jews all around the Middle East for 40 years to settle in the one place with no oil?

318 brookly red  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:00:26pm

re: #316 researchok

My treadmill monitor yells at me in a Glen Beck voice. If I don’t pick up the pace, the voice starts to cry.

I would consider switching gyms…

319 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:00:35pm

re: #316 researchok

My treadmill monitor yells at me in a Glen Beck voice. If I don’t pick up the pace, the voice starts to cry.

Let me guess: It’s monitor is a blackboard instead.

320 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:00:47pm

re: #313 brookly red

uhhh, what kind of gym has monitors… that’s a bit kinky.

Before my awesome and affordable gym closed down, my favorite machine was the treadmill, because the treadmill row was directly behind the row of ellipticals, and on many occasion that juxtaposition kept me thoroughly.. transfixed… for the duration of my cardio. Probably added a couple of BPMs to it, too.

321 researchok  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:01:14pm

re: #312 freetoken

Unlike the other four fundamental forces, the Chocolate Force and the IceCream Force are distant invariant.

Indeed, some have proposed that these latter two forces are really just manifestations of Dark Energy and will continue on forever increasing.

LOLOL

If you’re saying ice cream and choclate are conservative, I can assure you I will never change sides.

If wheat grass and tofu are Dem eats, you’re on your own.

322 brookly red  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:01:28pm

re: #317 jamesfirecat

Oh I think it’s quite obvious that G-d has a sense of humor. How else do you explain him/her leading the Jews all around the Middle East for 40 years to settle in the one place with no oil?

look he said milk & honey, not oil.

323 prairiefire  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:03:22pm

re: #315 Walter L. Newton

Hi, Walter. I hope work had some fun moments today.

324 researchok  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:03:30pm

re: #318 brookly red

I would consider switching gyms…

It’s a Dem gym. No refunds

325 researchok  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:04:10pm

re: #319 Dark_Falcon

Let me guess: It’s monitor is a blackboard instead.

And Beck is on every station

326 Political Atheist  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:04:30pm

After reading those awful hateful comments up top, I just had to share this nice Good Friday miracle story I read at NRO. The Good Friday Miracle. Not at all political, just a good human story.

A Good Friday to Remember
A car crash, a coma, and a miracle.

327 SixDegrees  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:04:43pm

re: #305 brookly red

python recipes…
[Link: weblogs.sun-sentinel.com…]

The orange juice/soy/ginger marinade sounds promising.

I’ve had rattlesnake and frog legs before. They’re sort of like chicken, in the sense that they really don’t have much taste of their own. The texture is a little different. But they’re meats that take on the flavor of whatever they’re cooked in, so I’d imagine python would be pretty versatile.

328 brookly red  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:05:12pm

re: #324 researchok

It’s a Dem gym. No refunds

oh cool… you get to use it all you want and someone else pays?

329 brookly red  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:07:04pm

re: #327 SixDegrees

The orange juice/soy/ginger marinade sounds promising.

I’ve had rattlesnake and frog legs before. They’re sort of like chicken, in the sense that they really don’t have much taste of their own. The texture is a little different. But they’re meats that take on the flavor of whatever they’re cooked in, so I’d imagine python would be pretty versatile.

kinda like eels…

330 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:07:12pm

re: #326 Rightwingconspirator

After reading those awful hateful comments up top, I just had to share this nice Good Friday miracle story I read at NRO. The Good Friday Miracle. Not at all political, just a good human story.

A Good Friday to Remember
A car crash, a coma, and a miracle.

I read that one, and it’s a wonderful read. Sadly, it’s on a front page soiled by a Michelle Malkin story. She uses the article to go after Mexico with her typical “Outragous Outrage” story.

331 researchok  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:07:15pm

re: #328 brookly red

oh cool… you get to use it all you want and someone else pays?

Old joke: There is only one problem w/socialism. Sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.

332 windsagio  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:08:25pm

re: #317 jamesfirecat

Youtube Video
333 Four More Tears  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:08:43pm

re: #331 researchok

Old joke: There is only one problem w/socialism. Sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.

Why? Do the lazy bums stop working?

334 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:08:45pm

re: #323 prairiefire

Hi, Walter. I hope work had some fun moments today.

No they didn’t, because I was not there. I did about 16 hours (two days) of computer based training this week. I am officially on a schedule starting this Sunday. My schedule next week is Sunday, Tuesday, Sat. and Sunday. I also have two “classroom” session scheduled, one is 8 hours of orientation and one is 4 hours of cashier training, although I will probably be running a checkout isle before I get to the cashier training on April 26th.

Starting Sunday, I will be shadowing another employee and start getting some idea what my job will entail.

It’s only a part time job, 20 hours a week, and being low man in seniority, I have to accept any schedule they give me, even if it changes weekly. As time goes on, and as I get more proficient in the general operation at the store, there will be opportunities for me to get in more than 20 hours a week. There is always hours available “around” the store to fill in vacations, days off and stuff like that.

335 brookly red  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:08:49pm

re: #331 researchok

Old joke: There is only one problem w/socialism. Sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.

uh-oh… I hope the Chinese have a sense of humor.

336 SixDegrees  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:08:57pm

My eyes are bleeding. I’ve spent near the entire day trying to read the utterly awful Apache Xerces-C XML library documentation, and I can say without hesitation that it truly sucks.

337 brookly red  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:09:42pm

re: #333 JasonA

Why? Do the lazy bums stop working?

only 400,000 or so every month…

338 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:10:25pm

re: #115 darthstar

Well, this guy takes the piss.

Sounds like he took the Hypocritical Oath, not the other one.

339 Political Atheist  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:10:50pm

re: #330 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, that is a shame. But IMHO, I’ll keep reading, if selectively. I’ll skip the bad for the sake of the good. I tend to give blogs some room to disagreewith me. :) Hey Michael Yon (I’m a huge fan) is on Brietbart! Damn. But I go and read and enjoy Michael Yon wherever he goes, short of stormfront or a stalker blog.

340 researchok  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:10:57pm

You know, you have to have a sense of humor… Serve me a few softballs and I’ll beat up on conservatives.

I’m all about equal opportunity

341 brookly red  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:11:57pm

re: #338 Cato the Elder

Sounds like he took the Hypocritical Oath, not the other one.

btw, aren’t you over due for you ahem, screening?

342 Randall Gross  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:12:30pm

Happy Friday - are we drinking yet?

343 researchok  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:13:13pm

re: #342 Thanos

Happy Friday - are we drinking yet?

Ready, willing and able.

Gin, tonic and ice at the ready.

344 brookly red  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:13:39pm

re: #342 Thanos

Happy Friday - are we drinking yet?

what it look like?

345 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:13:49pm

re: #341 brookly red

btw, aren’t you over due for you ahem, screening?

No. My doctor is a Prog Lib and will see me no matter whom I vote for.

He didn’t even cut me off after I went slightly mad and went for Howdy-Dubya in ‘04.

346 Achilles Tang  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:15:05pm

re: #311 Obdicut

It’s worse/better than the sentience thing; it’s kinda superstringy, with alternate universes and stuff. It’s a very interesting work, nonetheless.

And who are you to say it isn’t sentient? :=)

347 brookly red  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:15:06pm

re: #345 Cato the Elder

No. My doctor is a Prog Lib and will see me no matter whom I vote for.

He didn’t even cut me off after I went slightly mad and went for Howdy-Dubya in ‘04.

then ask not who the glove snaps for, it snaps for thee :)

348 What, me worry?  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:15:07pm

re: #314 negativ

Click to display image: NaziPriestsSaluteHitler.jpg

Whoa. I believe that’s Goebbels on the right.

349 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:15:53pm

So a Facebook friend got all freaked out about something political today and posted about the trials and tribs of being an idealist in this evil, scurvy world.

I recommended she try my formula:

Idealism + bone-deep pessimism = keep tryin’ but don’t get upset.

350 Achilles Tang  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:15:56pm

re: #342 Thanos

Happy Friday - are we drinking yet?

Yes. Cheap wine. Tell me when to stop; please.

351 prairiefire  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:16:19pm

re: #342 Thanos

Yes, Beck’s beer.

Besties with testies. The Harvard Sailing Team as their girlfriends:

Youtube Video
352 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:16:20pm

re: #315 Walter L. Newton

One wonders… even if you believe in G-d, is it possible that these rules are simply a “goof” on humanity? If G-d is capable of being “all and everything” is he/she capable of capricious rules, for his enjoyment.

I find the rules may be arbitrary; however, I also find that following “the rules” cements me to my faith in a way I find enjoyable and gratifying.

This probably makes no sense to anyone else, I will admit that, so nobody needs to come out asking me questions.

It just is what it is.

353 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:17:26pm

re: #348 marjoriemoon

Whoa. I believe that’s Goebbels on the right.

It is indeed. He of the club foot and the huge sexual inadequacy complex.

354 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:17:34pm

re: #339 Rightwingconspirator

Yeah, that is a shame. But IMHO, I’ll keep reading, if selectively. I’ll skip the bad for the sake of the good. I tend to give blogs some room to disagreewith me. :) Hey Michael Yon (I’m a huge fan) is on Brietbart! Damn. But I go and read and enjoy Michael Yon wherever he goes, short of stormfront or a stalker blog.

Me too. I’m not giving up on NRO, and I hope they give up on Malkin.

355 Achilles Tang  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:17:41pm

re: #335 brookly red

uh-oh… I hope the Chinese have a sense of humor.

They don’t need humor. The have superstition up the wazzoo. I suppose it is the alternative to you know what..

356 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:17:55pm

re: #339 Rightwingconspirator

Yeah, that is a shame. But IMHO, I’ll keep reading, if selectively. I’ll skip the bad for the sake of the good. I tend to give blogs some room to disagreewith me. :) Hey Michael Yon (I’m a huge fan) is on Brietbart! Damn. But I go and read and enjoy Michael Yon wherever he goes, short of stormfront or a stalker blog.

If Michael Yon is on Brietbart, then you need to stop reading him. You’re just support they crazy in an indirect way. It’s the same with Ayn Rand. Just because you think she is a good writer, she was also infatuated with a serial killer. If you read Rand, you are indirectly supporting her interest in a serial killer.

I know, it can really be confusing, six degrees of separation can certainly make ones life very complex, but if you believe in being doing what’s right, you should consider these points I’ve made.

357 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:18:09pm

re: #348 marjoriemoon

Whoa. I believe that’s Goebbels on the right.

It is indeed the arch-liar of the Third Reich himself.

358 Achilles Tang  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:18:51pm

re: #336 SixDegrees

My eyes are bleeding. I’ve spent near the entire day trying to read the utterly awful Apache Xerces-C XML library documentation, and I can say without hesitation that it truly sucks.

The library or the documentation?

359 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:19:36pm

re: #352 reine.de.tout

I find the rules may be arbitrary; however, I also find that following “the rules” cements me to my faith in a way I find enjoyable and gratifying.

This probably makes no sense to anyone else, I will admit that, so nobody needs to come out asking me questions.

It just is what it is.

Indeed.

Voltaire, that scourge of the church, wrote: “God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh.”

Which is a good joke, but personally I believe Jesus has a great sense of humor, and those who know him personally tend to get it.

360 windsagio  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:20:07pm

re: #356 Walter L. Newton

what does it mean if you’ve read the Little Red book?

361 Randall Gross  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:20:20pm

I will continue to read Yon, I just won’t read him at Breitbart.

362 What, me worry?  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:21:17pm

re: #357 Dark_Falcon

It is indeed the arch-liar of the Third Reich himself.

I will say, though, there was some resistance to the Nazi control of the German church. We all know of Pastor Niemöller and what happened to him.

Interesting article here.

ushmm.org

363 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:21:44pm

re: #360 windsagio

what does it mean if you’ve read the Little Red book?

That’s a book by Mao, it’s sort of his communist manifesto. You didn’t know that?

364 researchok  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:22:20pm

re: #362 marjoriemoon

I will say, though, there was some resistance to the Nazi control of the German church. We all know of Pastor Niemöller and what happened to him.

Interesting article here.

[Link: www.ushmm.org…]

Also bears recalling those pictures were disseminated for propaganda purposes.

365 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:22:24pm

re: #361 Thanos

I will continue to read Yon, I just won’t read him at Breitbart.

I’ll continue to read Ayn Rand, but skip over the parts where it may appear that she is in some way supporting serial killing or something similar to that.

366 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:22:38pm

re: #333 JasonA

Why? Do the lazy bums stop working?

They become tax exiles in Antigua. Then we pass laws against the unpatriotic bastards moving their jobs and assets overseas, creating another few thousand instant criminals. Government to the rescue…

367 Randall Gross  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:23:32pm

If you click this photo link hit ctrl+Plus sign a few times to blow it up full size (1200Xsomething…) and look at the lights reflected in the lake — you can see the waves in the lake and their frequencies.

Havasu Night

368 windsagio  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:23:33pm

re: #363 Walter L. Newton

No. I totally didn’t.

*of course I did silly! Would it make me a commie?

369 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:24:25pm

re: #348 marjoriemoon

Whoa. I believe that’s Goebbels on the right.

It is, and next to him is Wilhelm Frick, who was Minister of the Interior.

Missing from the photo are all the times when the Vatican denounced the Nazis in the strongest possible language, excommunicated prominent Nazi Catholics (one of them was named Adolph something, I forget), and refused to have anything to do with the regime.
/

370 Randall Gross  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:24:28pm

re: #365 Walter L. Newton

Deal

371 Achilles Tang  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:25:47pm

re: #315 Walter L. Newton

One wonders… even if you believe in G-d, is it possible that these rules are simply a “goof” on humanity? If G-d is capable of being “all and everything” is he/she capable of capricious rules, for his enjoyment.

As I see it, it is not a matter of capricious rule imposed so much as capricious rules adopted; to identify the tribal association.

We have a need to identify ourselves as different from others or otherwise we would not have a unique identity, which most of us learn we have around 5 years of age or so.

There are different ways of expressing that.

372 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:28:09pm

re: #198 LudwigVanQuixote

I’ve read papers that suggest that Dogs have an intelligence equivalent to a human two or three year old.

It depends on the dog. Mine has developed a finely-tuned sense of humor and prankishness, which I believe only comes to the fore in most humans at the age of three to five.

373 palomino  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:28:51pm

These people are justifying, if not outright cheering, the murder of a doctor in a church.

I know it’s indelicate to bring this up, but who else’s murder do you think these sick fucks could easily find a way to justify? Maybe someone a bit more prominent than an abortion provider?

The implications of this sentiment are truly reprehensible.

374 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:29:57pm

re: #371 Naso Tang

As I see it, it is not a matter of capricious rule imposed so much as capricious rules adopted; to identify the tribal association.

We have a need to identify ourselves as different from others or otherwise we would not have a unique identity, which most of us learn we have around 5 years of age or so.

There are different ways of expressing that.

I was just playing along with your topic, discussing for discussion sake… I don’t care otherwise, I’m an atheist.

375 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:30:04pm

re: #373 palomino

These people are justifying, if not outright cheering, the murder of a doctor in a church.

I know it’s indelicate to bring this up, but who else’s murder do you think these sick fucks could easily find a way to justify? Maybe someone a bit more prominent than an abortion provider?

The implications of this sentiment are truly reprehensible.

Lets hope we don’t have to find out….

376 palomino  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:32:11pm

re: #375 jamesfirecat

Lets hope we don’t have to find out…

I don’t even want to think about it, but it’s impossible not to when most teabag rallies appear more like lynch mobs.

377 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:32:46pm

re: #368 windsagio

No. I totally didn’t.

*of course I did silly! Would it make me a commie?

According to me, no. According to the machinations of some people who has commented on “associations,” a big YES. But, at the same time, it’s kind of arbitrary. These “some people” seem to make the decisions on what is bad associations and not bad associations depending on whether it serves their purposes.

Kind of fucked up in general.

378 Political Atheist  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:32:47pm

re: #356 Walter L. Newton

Thanks for your points. I have chosen artist, or writer over venue. I’ll be avidly looking for the better venue to see Michael Yon, and hopefully so. But I simply do not boycott a writer or artist over venue.

379 DaddyLawBucks  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:33:19pm

re: #373 palomino

Not to mention that these same people are insisting that the government in Washington take over the abortion issue (in making it illegal), rather than letting the people involved decide. So presuming most of them are “right wing”, in this instance, they feel a govmt agency should know more than the people involved?

380 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:33:54pm

re: #378 Rightwingconspirator

Thanks for your points. I have chosen artist, or writer over venue. I’ll be avidly looking for the better venue to see Michael Yon, and hopefully so. But I simply do not boycott a writer or artist over venue.

My points were meant to be snarky. It appears that you caught that.

381 Achilles Tang  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:34:53pm

re: #300 Obdicut

The book Anathem, by Neil Stephenson, explores that question in a very nifty way. I highly recommend it.

You better like math, though, or you’ll hate it.

I read the first few pages on Amazon. I don’t know Stephenson and I didn’t realize it was fiction/fantasy, but certainly someone who can weave an obsessively detailed scenario it seems…

382 SixDegrees  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:35:32pm

re: #358 Naso Tang

The library or the documentation?

The documentation. The library itself seems to do what it’s supposed to - although not in the way I would have done it. Once I finally got a working program together, I ran it through a pretty rigorous error checker (valgrind) and it came up totally clean.

But figuring out how to use it is extremely painful.

383 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:37:38pm

re: #381 Naso Tang

I read the first few pages on Amazon. I don’t know Stephenson and I didn’t realize it was fiction/fantasy, but certainly someone who can weave an obsessively detailed scenario it seems…

Try these books, in this order, it works better… Cryptonomicon, Quicksilver, The COnfusion and System of the World. Finctional history that cover first WWII and contemportary times and then the other three books cover the world about 1615 to 1725. They all connect, that’s why I suggest Cryptonomicon first.

384 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:37:52pm

Say to yourself at daybreak; I shall come across the busybody, the thankless, the overbearing, the treacherous, the envious, the unneighborly. All this has befallen them because they know not good from evil.
—Marcus Aurelius Antoninus (121-180) _Meditations_ Book II, Number 1

385 Achilles Tang  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:38:10pm

re: #374 Walter L. Newton

I was just playing along with your topic, discussing for discussion sake… I don’t care otherwise, I’m an atheist.

You don’t care beyond discussion or playing along?

Seems to me you are neither discussing nor playing along; and if you think I don’t know that you are an atheist, what does that make you think I know?

386 Randall Gross  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:38:43pm

re: #379 daddylawbucks

One word: Schiavo circus.

ok so that was two words

387 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:39:24pm

re: #385 Naso Tang

You don’t care beyond discussion or playing along?

Seems to me you are neither discussing nor playing along; and if you think I don’t know that you are an atheist, what does that make you think I know?

Fine… I’ll drop it. I don’t care.

388 DaddyLawBucks  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:40:39pm

re: #386 Thanos

There you go. No amount of agony that woman’s family was put through was too much to pay for the political opportunism around her. Tragic.

389 Achilles Tang  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:44:08pm

re: #387 Walter L. Newton

Fine… I’ll drop it. I don’t care.

I think what I’m drinking is smoother than yours.

“I’ll drop it; I don’t care” sounds like an oxymoron.

390 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:54:09pm

re: #379 daddylawbucks

Not to mention that these same people are insisting that the government in Washington take over the abortion issue (in making it illegal), rather than letting the people involved decide. So presuming most of them are “right wing”, in this instance, they feel a govmt agency should know more than the people involved?

Once again, the precedent set by the bullshit last minute attempt by and ensuing failure of the Bush administration to interfere in the private marital business of Terri & Michael Schiavo should govern. George Tiller helped many women deal with and avoid the worst, albeit rare potential risks of human reproduction. George Tiller helped prevent some conditions that create horrible mockeries of true personhood, which a very cruel nature sometimes allows, such as anencephely. George Tiller was a true hero.

391 DaddyLawBucks  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 5:59:37pm

re: #390 goddamnedfrank

goddamfrank, I agree. For my money, the people who abet and encourage the murderers like Roeder should also be prosecuted.

392 DaddyLawBucks  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 6:00:45pm

BBL

393 albusteve  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 6:04:19pm

re: #342 Thanos

Happy Friday - are we drinking yet?

of course….vodka and blue Gatorade

394 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 6:05:59pm

re: #372 Cato the Elder

It depends on the dog. Mine has developed a finely-tuned sense of humor and prankishness, which I believe only comes to the fore in most humans at the age of three to five.

My dog, all on his own, learned to literally knock on the door when he wants to go out. We used to live in a house that had levers instead of door knobs. He figured out pretty quickly how to open those. Inexplicably, he also somehow knows the difference between “bowl”, “ball”, “bone”, and “kong”. Saying, “where’s your will result in him reliably finding it and either bringing it to me (and not letting it go), or taking it off somewhere to chew on it.

However, this same dog nearly choked to death trying to swallow the remote control to a DVD player.

So I don’t know. He’s either pretty dumb for a genius, or pretty smart for a dummy. If he ever figures out that it is well within his physical capability to open the refrigerator, I’m screwed.

395 What, me worry?  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 6:25:09pm

re: #394 negativ

I had a black cat, Yogi, who was a scaredy cat. Always hid from others, neurotic, but he’d follow me around and stare at me whatever I was doing.

One day, I heard him knocking around down the hall way. I thought the door to the litter room had slammed shut and he was scratching the door. I look down the hall to see him up on his back legs, his two front paws around the doorknob and he was moving his arms back and forth. As God as my witness, he turned the knob and leaned into the door to open it. I thought that was pretty amazing. He died just shy of 20 years.

396 PAUL_MACDONALD  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 6:28:44pm

Every time I read one of these, all I can think is “normalizing the fringe”.

397 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 6:30:22pm

Hey

Have I missed anything?

398 Achilles Tang  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 6:31:43pm

re: #397 b_sharp

Hey

Have I missed anything?

How much time are you talking of?

399 Macha  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 6:51:56pm

re: #123 Gus 802

Funny, that’s the way I felt when Bush was in office.

400 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 6:53:40pm

re: #398 Naso Tang

Naso—I signed off before one of last night’s comments. Yeah, I could see that as part of an education metric set.

401 Macha  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 7:20:47pm

re: #274 The Sanity Inspector

I think the bottom line is that it is an intensely personal decision and that the people involved should be the ones to make the call. No one religious group should have the right to impose their beliefs on everyone else. It is called the separation of church and state. With few exceptions, abortion attitudes proceed from religious beliefs. I have found, in general, that the loudest voices in the anti abortion movement have never had to deal with the excruciatingly painful realities that some people must face. Choose for yourself according to your beliefs. Grant others the same privilege. Have compassion for those put in the situation where they must choose.

402 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 8:07:31pm

re: #165 HoosierHoops

Winston and I just came in…Little bastard just peed on my car..He pissed on the Beemer! You know..I don’t care if you pee on every tree in the yard..
But not the car…I screamed at Winston..But it was too late for him..He just looked at me…Little bastard! LOL

Now everyone will know it belongs to you! There will be no chance of another dog taking it.

403 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 8:08:10pm

re: #172 Cato the Elder

No idea. Please reveal.

Moonstruck.

404 Vambo  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 8:43:49pm

[blockquote]Tiller murdered precious little babies, because their mothers would have been depressed at missing a rock concert.[/blockquote]

They still have rock concerts?!?!

Oh and everyone knows you can still go to a rock concert when you’re in labor, you just put the kid away in a garbage can (in a garbage can). But afterwards, she hates her life and what’s done to it.

405 Vambo  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 8:51:26pm

re: #274 The Sanity Inspector

I once knew a couple who discovered that the baby they were carrying had that disorder. They decided to carry it to term anyway, in keeping with their Christian beliefs. It spontaneously miscarried, though, and so they never had to really deal with the consequences of their decision.

Not casting aspersions on anyone’s opinion, just pointing out that even in such cases there are people for whom abortion is not the slam-dunk answer.

no shit:
en.wikipedia.org

406 [deleted]  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 11:05:40pm
407 Querent  Fri, Apr 2, 2010 11:53:50pm

re: #85 kobra_55

Yeah, I know, that’s kind of why I’m surprised they don’t seriously do that. They could say, “Oh well, we’ve had 40 million estimated abortions, and another 500 million potential babies whose lives were snuffed out by condoms and birth control pills. THE HORROR!”

cue Monty Python, “every sperm is sacred…”

408 Querent  Sat, Apr 3, 2010 12:06:41am

re: #240 pingjockey

Guam now has no birds due to snakes getting there by stowing away in jets from SE Asia.

cue “snakes on a plane”…

409 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Apr 3, 2010 4:23:49am

re: #9 researchok

ding ding ding.


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