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Men substitute words for reality and then argue about the words.
— Edwin Howard Armstrong
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freetoken Tue, Apr 6, 2010 11:23:30pm |
What I learned today: Edwin Howard Armstrong:
Armstrong married Sarnoff's secretary, Marion MacInnis, in December 1922. He gave Marion the world's first portable radio as a wedding gift. Armstrong bought a Hispano-Suiza motor car before the wedding, which they drove to Palm Beach, Florida for their honeymoon. He kept the car until his death. It had no radio. He was an avid tennis player until an injury in 1940, and drank an Old Fashioned with dinner.
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Timmeh Tue, Apr 6, 2010 11:41:58pm |
DA warns schools to end sex-ed or face charges
The stupid is strong with this one.
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Apr 7, 2010 12:08:23am |
Racism has generally reared its ugly head following major civil rights advances in America. This happened after the post-civil war reconstruction period; after the Brown v Board of Education and the voter registration movements in the 1950s and 60s; and now after the election of blacks to high political offices throughout America.
The resurgence of the JBS is a recent manifestation of this typically American racist reactionary phenomenon. Hopefully, as in the past, the bigots will be beaten back and will slink back under their various rocks where they belong.
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Escaped Hillbilly Wed, Apr 7, 2010 12:16:30am |
re: #2 Timmeh
Best quote in my mind,
"Here we are again - short of money, getting a dictate that we have to do something different from two different sources," he said.
Sums it up. I disagree witht the article's assertion that sex ed is effective in preventing teen pregnancy. The facts are inconclusive at best on this matter. But that said, is this something the DA should be getting involved in and wasting tax payer money on? Politics at its basest.
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yenta-fada Wed, Apr 7, 2010 12:41:52am |
re: #3 Spare O'Lake
I am so tired of arguing with idiots on financial boards that still call the Civil War, "The War of Northern Aggression." I'm going to get a new online career instead of fighting the vicious white supremacists who are planning for social unrest. Mind you, they think that will be brought on by massive debts throughout the countries of the world. I have to agree with the logic on that part of it. We are BROKE. People do need to be prepared by getting out of debt asap. I do not get the guns & ammo crowd. I'm not against gun ownership, but I'd never own one. Any wimp could take it away from me.
I find the constant anti-Semitism infuriating and ignorant. I'm just stupid for trying to push back the tides of scapegoating and blame for all of the ills of the world. There are millions of people out there actively though hate and passively though ignorance who hate anyone who is not just like them. Now, what was the subject again? Sorry for the rant. It's the middle of the night and the war of words on the 'net never ends.
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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Apr 7, 2010 1:02:50am |
re: #3 Spare O'Lake
I think it has a new dimension this time: a lot of racists out there cannot bring themselves to utter the n-word out loud, so they sublimate and substitute it for whatever idiot talking point comes along: communist, cryptoislamist, not-born-in-the-USA, etc.
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Gus Wed, Apr 7, 2010 1:19:31am |
re: #2 Timmeh
DA warns schools to end sex-ed or face charges
The stupid is strong with this one.
That also be Captain Scott Southworth. Scott Harold Southworth was lead plaintiff in Board of Regents Univ. Wisc. v. Southworth:
Facts of the Case:
The University of Wisconsin, a public university, requires students to pay an activity fee. The fee supports various campus services and extracurricular student activities including the Future Financial Gurus of America; the International Socialist Organization; the College Democrats and Republicans; and the American Civil Liberties Union Campus Chapter. Scott Harold Southworth filed suit against the University, alleging that the fee violated his rights of free speech, free association, and free exercise under the First Amendment. Southworth argued that the University must grant him the choice not to fund registered student organizations (RSO) that engage in political and ideological expression offensive to his personal beliefs. In granting Southworth judgment, the Federal District Court concluded that the fee program compelled students to support political and ideological activities with which they disagree in violation of their First Amendment rights to freedom of speech and association. The court declared the fee program invalid and enjoined the University from using the fees to fund any RSO engaging in political or ideological speech. In affirming, the Court of Appeals concluded that the fee program was "not germane to the University's mission, did not further a vital University policy, and imposed too much of a burden on [Southworth's] free speech rights."
Question:
May public universities and colleges subsidize campus groups by means of a mandatory student activity fee without violating the First Amendment rights of students who find some campus groups objectionable?
Conclusion:
Yes. In a unanimous opinion delivered by Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, the Court held that the "First Amendment permits a public university to charge its students an activity fee used to fund a program to facilitate extracurricular student speech if the program is viewpoint neutral." Justice Kennedy wrote for the Court that, "[w]hen a university requires its students to pay fees to support the extracurricular speech of other students, all in the interest of open discussion, it may not prefer some viewpoints to others." Justice David H. Souter, in an opinion joined by Justices John Paul Stevens and Stephen G. Breyer, concurred in the judgment only.
In 1996, ADF represented Scott Southworth and two other UW-Madison students who claimed their First Amendment rights were being violated because they were forced to pay student fees that funded political and ideological groups with which they disagreed.
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Gus Wed, Apr 7, 2010 1:20:16am |
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Gus Wed, Apr 7, 2010 1:26:51am |
U.S. Approves Targeted Killing of American Cleric
WASHINGTON — The Obama administration has taken the extraordinary step of authorizing the targeted killing of an American citizen, the radical Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, who is believed to have shifted from encouraging attacks on the United States to directly participating in them, intelligence and counterterrorism officials said Tuesday...
/Confusion follows.
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Gus Wed, Apr 7, 2010 1:39:41am |
Equal time. This is a very commendable aspect of Scott Southworth:
BOB ABERNETHY, anchor: Now, the story of a Wisconsin National Guard officer who saw combat in Iraq but who also discovered a young Iraqi orphan crippled with cerebral palsy -- a 10-year-old boy who faced a life of loneliness and suffering. After his tour of duty, Captain Scott Southworth returned home to Wisconsin but could not forget about the boy named Ala'a. Lucky Severson tells us what happened.
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Timmeh Wed, Apr 7, 2010 1:43:08am |
re: #9 Gus 802
Now I feel kinda bad about calling him stupid.
I still think he's very wrong about this issue though.
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Gus Wed, Apr 7, 2010 1:52:20am |
re: #13 Timmeh
Now I feel kinda bad about calling him stupid.
I still think he's very wrong about this issue though.
He's wrong on the sex-ed issue. I also pointed out the University of Wisconsin case. Don't feel bad about calling him stupid because outwardly we respond to political or legal actions even though if we look further we can find some good in those we sometimes react negatively towards -- especially in the early morning hours -- and there's no shame in feeling a little guilty about those reactions. That's why I thought I'd post the nicer side of Southworth.
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Gus Wed, Apr 7, 2010 2:08:22am |
I guess Aijalon Mahli Gomes isn't pretty enough to find any interest for his release:
US man sentenced to hard labour in North Korea
North Korea has sentenced a US citizen to eight years' hard labour for illegally entering the country, state news agency KCNA has said.
The man, named as 30-year-old Aijalon Mahli Gomes, from Boston, admitted his wrongdoing in court, KCNA reported.
Gomes had worked as an English teacher in South Korea, and reportedly crossed the border from China on 25 January...
No candle light vigils as they did for Laura Ling and Euna Lee. Who will spearhead a diplomatic mission to release Aijalon Mahli Gomes?
There was no immediate comment available from the United States government on the sentencing of Mr. Gomes
.
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Timmeh Wed, Apr 7, 2010 2:35:43am |
re: #15 Gus 802
Man, what was he thinking?
Yes, damsels in distress, especially pretty ones, do get more attention than men in distress. We can't let our whole foreign policy be dictated by hostage crises though. Every time they need a new bargaining chip, along comes another useful idiot wandering over the border.
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researchok Wed, Apr 7, 2010 2:49:58am |
re: #15 Gus 802
The words 'boundless stupidity' come to mind.
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researchok Wed, Apr 7, 2010 2:56:41am |
re: #3 Spare O'Lake
I'm not sure I agree that the JBS is really fueled by racism.
I think the JBS strikes a chord because of their pseudo-intellectual, pretend conservative ideology. There was a reason Buckley walked away.
I suspect there are more racists among the fringe element of the Tea Party.
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Tigger2005 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 3:53:11am |
From the previous thread...race mixing is communism? Wow that's...quite an argument. When it comes to irrational hatred there's not much room for logic...using logic might make you question your prejudices.
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RogueOne Wed, Apr 7, 2010 3:58:37am |
Go Hoosiers!
States Ranked By Penis Size
[Link: www.kirotv.com...]
Condomania, which sells custom-fit condoms, released a ranking of states based on average penis size.1. New Hampshire
2. Oregon
3. New York
4. Indiana
5. Arizona
I'm not sure this list is entirely fair since I lived in 2 of those states. I may have skewed the results.......
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:18:43am |
Evan Longoria hit a 473 foot home run last night. Went into the third level. Hit a woman in the wrist. The woman was holding a baby at the time. The baby wasn't hurt. Rays put up 2 in the bottom of the 9th. We won. Morning Honcos!!
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Taqyia2Me Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:20:20am |
re: #22 RogueOne
And now...Rogue would like to show you something he's really proud of...
*unzipppp*
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:21:26am |
re: #25 Cannadian Club Akbar
My son was at a AAA game, in the picnic area... guy hit a home run. Son caught it bare-handed (7th grade) and... DIDN'T DROP HIS HOT DOG!
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Taqyia2Me Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:21:56am |
re: #26 Taqyia2Me
Wow...you could jump rope with that thing!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:22:32am |
re: #26 Taqyia2Me
And now...Rogue would like to show you something he's really proud of...
*unzippp*
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:22:54am |
re: #28 Taqyia2Me
Wow...you could jump rope with that thing!
She said: Who ya gonna please with that little thing?
I said: Myself.
/
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:25:12am |
re: #30 Cannadian Club Akbar
My friend was peeing off of the side of the boat, said, "Y'all don't look, now. It ain't big around, but it's short!"
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:29:47am |
re: #31 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My friend was peeing off of the side of the boat, said, "Y'all don't look, now. It ain't big around, but it's short!"
I tell people mine is so short it doesn't even hit my underwear.
*rimshot*
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:32:13am |
On a current topic related note...
Top 15 Euphemisms for Impotence
15. 180 degrees shy of heaven
14. Performing with Flaccido Domingo
13. A few parts shy of an erector set
12. Sch-wing and a miss
11. Not rising to the level of impeachable offense
10. The Null Monty
9. Disappointing Miss Daisy
8. Taking the gold at the Lake Flaccid Olympics
7. Ascension Deficit Disorder
6. Bouncing the Check of Love
5. Less-than-Magic Johnson
4. All Doled up with nowhere to go
3. Welcome to Flaccid City. Population: You
2. Serving boneless pork
1. Unleavened Man-Bread
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:34:40am |
The decision to add Anwar al-Awlaki, of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, to the target list followed a National Security Council review prompted by his status as a U.S. citizen.
Officials said Awlaki directly threatened the United States. "Awlaki is a proven threat," said a U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity. "He's being targeted."
SNIP
The U.S. target list is secret and it was not immediately clear whether Awlaki was the first American added, as some experts had suggested he would be.
SNIP
Why the hell did the administration release this information? Doesn't it give Awlaki a head's up?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:39:24am |
re: #34 MandyManners
The current administration doesn't seem to be afraid to kill enemies. I have to give them props for that.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:40:35am |
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:41:03am |
re: #34 MandyManners
Why the hell did the administration release this information? Doesn't it give Awlaki a head's up?
Add to that what was said about our response, militarily, if attacked by chemical or bio weapons.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:41:28am |
re: #36 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The current administration doesn't seem to be afraid to kill enemies. I have to give them props for that.
Has the administration really banned the phrases Islamic radicalism,
Islamic jihad and Islamic extremism?
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:42:50am |
re: #39 MandyManners
Has the administration really banned the phrases Islamic radicalism,
Islamic jihad and Islamic extremism?
[Link: apnews.myway.com...]
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:45:48am |
re: #38 Cannadian Club Akbar
Add to that what was said about our response, militarily, if attacked by chemical or bio weapons.
It got ShortShit's knickers in a twist.
"I hope these published comments are not true... he (Obama) has threatened with nuclear and chemical weapons those nations which do not submit to the greed of the United States," Ahmadinejad said in speech broadcast live on state television.
"Be careful. If you set step in Mr. (George W.) Bush's path, the nations' response would be the same tooth-breaking one as they gave Bush," he said.
SNIP
But Obama warned exceptions could be made for Iran and North Korea, both accused by the West of flouting UN resolutions.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:46:03am |
Meanwhile, Dinnerjacket mocks the President.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:47:27am |
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:48:45am |
re: #42 Cannadian Club Akbar
Meanwhile, Dinnerjacket mocks the President.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
Did little specks of spittle form around his little mouth? Did he stomp his widdle feetsies?
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sandbox Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:51:02am |
re: #39 MandyManners
Regardless of what the Obama admin says, Sandbox will continue to use the term radical islamist, jihadist and so on.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:52:35am |
re: #39 MandyManners
But they have not banned Islamic fundamentalists from saying, "Holy Shit! What is tha..."
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laZardo Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:53:17am |
Evening honcos! Looks like I got caught at a bad time. (;
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:53:43am |
re: #44 MandyManners
Did little specks of spittle form around his little mouth? Did he stomp his widdle feetsies?
I find it odd that the Administration would say what they did in your #34, concerning an American born person, although a douche, but say nothing about someone who has vowed to wipe out an entire country.
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Taqyia2Me Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:54:14am |
Mandy, sorry to hear of your broke toe.
I hope you're back up to speed asap!!
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:54:43am |
re: #47 laZardo
Evening honcos! Looks like I got caught at a bad time. (;
I saw that last night and immediately thought of you. Heh.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:55:12am |
They were subject to anti-Semitic curses and even threatened with a machete, and felt lucky to have survived the onslaught, they said. The incident was widely covered in the press and even reached national news channels.
Nick Bergamini (22), vice-president of the university's student association, told Ynet that he and his friend Mark Klibanov (20) left a bar in the campus area late at night, when suddenly ten men surrounded them, speaking English and Arabic, calling them "Zionists" and "Jews."
SNIP
But things didn't end there. They decided to go to Ottawa from Gatineau, the campus site, when the crowd had dispersed. On the way, as they passed a parking lot, a car stopped next to them containing three men.
"One of them rolled down the window and said: ‘I am the one who hit you, you f---ing Jew,' although I am not a Jew," Bergamini said. "Two guys came out of the car and one of them tried to kick my roommate.
"One attacker said ‘Open the trunk,' and another guy pulled out a machete that glinted in the street lights. I yelled that they had weapons and we started running as fast as we could. I saw the guy wind up with the machete as I looked back."
Klibanov, interviewed by local newspaper Ottawa Citizen, said that the huge blade, generally used to clear a path through rainforests in South America, just missed Bergamini's head. He said they survived only because they managed to run away quickly.
He too recognized one of the men, but didn't remember how many people had chased them. He added that the men must be found, in order to prevent further attacks.
"The first thing they said before punching my friend is that we were Zionists," Klibanov said. "This situation surprised me, but the intentions of these people did not.
"If you are from the right wing or are a supporter of Israel, it gets around pretty quickly, because Carleton is one of the worst campuses for having a division between Palestinian and Jewish students. It is a really polarized campus between left and right, Jewish and Arab students."
SNIP
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:55:25am |
re: #34 MandyManners
Why the hell did the administration release this information? Doesn't it give Awlaki a head's up?
The U.S. target list is secret and it was not immediately clear whether Awlaki was the first American added, as some experts had suggested he would be.
The target list is secret? Not so secret, it would appear.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:55:32am |
re: #45 sandbox
Regardless of what the Obama admin says, Sandbox will continue to use the term radical islamist, jihadist and so on.
Ditto.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:56:19am |
re: #46 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
But they have not banned Islamic fundamentalists from saying, "Holy Shit! What is tha..."
*boom*
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:57:00am |
re: #48 Cannadian Club Akbar
I find it odd that the Administration would say what they did in your #34, concerning an American born person, although a douche, but say nothing about someone who has vowed to wipe out an entire country.
What? And piss off China and Russia?
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:58:19am |
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laZardo Wed, Apr 7, 2010 4:59:49am |
re: #56 Cannadian Club Akbar
I forget where I read it, but there was this wannabe terrorist that got blown up by his own mailbomb due to insufficient postage.
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sandbox Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:00:16am |
re: #53 MandyManners
I subscribe to the saying:
Name the enemy, win the war!
Meaning that you can't devise effective strategies against the radical islamists if you're afraid or too politically correct to identify them as he enemy.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:00:23am |
Rudy, do you have any thoughts?
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:01:11am |
re: #57 laZardo
I forget where I read it, but there was this wannabe terrorist that got blown up by his own mailbomb due to insufficient postage.
Now that's karma!!!
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:01:15am |
re: #49 Taqyia2Me
Mandy, sorry to hear of your broke toe.
I hope you're back up to speed asap!!
Thanks. I woke up several times last night when I turned over. It's turned purple and the swelling is up. I'd love to stay seated with an ice-pack on it but I fucked up and forgot to get my license-plate tags renewed last month so I have to do that today but the building is ancient and has no elevator that I know of. So, I'll have to sit on the steps and scoot my butt up. Good thing I have crutches.
*whimper*
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:02:17am |
re: #52 reine.de.tout
The target list is secret? Not so secret, it would appear.
Was Awlaki's name released to make the administration appear as if it's doing something to get him? That is my most charitable thought.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:02:51am |
re: #56 Cannadian Club Akbar
One Jihadi to the other: "What does this button do?"
"Look, Ma. No hands!"
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:03:30am |
re: #58 sandbox
I subscribe to the saying:
Name the enemy, win the war!Meaning that you can't devise effective strategies against the radical islamists if you're afraid or too politically correct to identify them as he enemy.
Just don't name the individuals!
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:03:35am |
re: #61 MandyManners
They should have some type of ramp. Not that makes it easier.:(
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:05:53am |
re: #57 laZardo
I forget where I read it, but there was this wannabe terrorist that got blown up by his own mailbomb due to insufficient postage.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:07:51am |
re: #65 Cannadian Club Akbar
They should have some type of ramp. Not that makes it easier.:(
They might for all I know. Maybe that would be easier to access on crutches. I learned how to walk on crutches in 1978 and I've used them since but, it's easier and safer for me to just sit and scoot on stairs.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:09:10am |
Ok... we got 2 inches of heavy wet snow last night up here at 8200 feet, and even Denver got snow. And it's still snowing and is to continue until noon. Winter doesn't like to leave Colorado. I've seen snow as late as June, and on top of a lot of the 14000 feet plus peaks, you can see snow at the top all year round.
I'm not scheduled for work today, so I can just sit here and watch it. Girlfriend has to go down hill to work.
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haakondahl Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:11:16am |
re: #21 Tigger2005
From the previous thread...race mixing is communism? Wow that's...quite an argument. When it comes to irrational hatred there's not much room for logic...using logic might make you question your prejudices.
Agreed. Similarly, anti-communism is not racism.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:11:31am |
I watched the first video on this page. Was teh funny.
[Link: www.urlesque.com...]
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haakondahl Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:12:05am |
re: #34 MandyManners
Why the hell did the administration release this information? Doesn't it give Awlaki a head's up?
Sometimes, things like this will make it difficult for the target to maintain trust with those who help him hide--both ways.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:13:02am |
Who didn't see this coming in the sumer of 2008?
Monday's presidential decree scrapping the commission came as Mr. Yanukovich was meeting with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev amid his second official visit to Moscow since being elected in February. Another commission, whose brief was to promote Euro-Atlantic integration, was cut along with a few dozen other advisory state bodies associated with the Western-leaning former president Viktor Yushchenko.
Experts say there's little surprise in the action, since Yanukovich was elected, at least partly, on a platform of repairing relations with Moscow, which had been so infuriated by Mr. Yushchenko's pro-NATO tilt that Russia refused to send an ambassador to Kiev for almost two years.
"It is definitely not the policy of Yanukovich to join NATO," says Oleksandr Sushko, research director of the independent Institute for Euro-Atlantic Cooperation in Kiev.
"Yanukovich's policy is not to move in any direction, but for Ukraine to be a kind of 'bridge' between East and West. The danger is that we are moving into a gray zone, where the security status of Ukraine will become ambiguous."
SNIP
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:13:46am |
re: #68 Walter L. Newton
Ok... we got 2 inches of heavy wet snow last night up here at 8200 feet, and even Denver got snow. And it's still snowing and is to continue until noon. Winter doesn't like to leave Colorado. I've seen snow as late as June, and on top of a lot of the 14000 feet plus peaks, you can see snow at the top all year round.
I'm not scheduled for work today, so I can just sit here and watch it. Girlfriend has to go down hill to work.
Ah, spring snows are lovely! Dangerous but, lovely.
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laZardo Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:14:47am |
re: #52 reine.de.tout
The target list is secret? Not so secret, it would appear.
The FBI's Most Wanted list is probably a 'sampler version.'
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haakondahl Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:15:08am |
re: #62 MandyManners
Was Awlaki's name released to make the administration appear as if it's doing something to get him? That is my most charitable thought.
Well, I have my reservations, but I have been pleasantly surprised with many of this administration's decisions regarding military operations. I think that they are getting mostly good advice, and mostly acting in accordance with it. It's hard to demand more, even of your own side :-)
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sandbox Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:15:15am |
re: #64 MandyManners
Lately I have actually become sympathetic to the moderate muslim complaint that they don't like the use of the term radical islamist--because it is somehow pejorative to them as well. But I don't see any other choice than identifying the radical islamist movement as the enemy.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:15:40am |
re: #71 haakondahl
Sometimes, things like this will make it difficult for the target to maintain trust with those who help him hide--both ways.
I hadn't thought of that but, could feeling persecutd also not bring them closer together?
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:15:50am |
re: #74 laZardo
The FBI's Most Wanted list is probably a 'sampler version.'
FBI's most wanted is not a "secret" list. It was always intended to be well-publicized, so people would call the authorities.
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ryannon Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:16:00am |
re: #27 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My son was at a AAA game, in the picnic area... guy hit a home run. Son caught it bare-handed (7th grade) and... DIDN'T DROP HIS HOT DOG!
Inherited genetic trait.
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haakondahl Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:16:48am |
re: #77 MandyManners
I hadn't thought of that but, could feeling persecutd also not bring them closer together?
Perhaps, but they're already persecuted. That's different than being targeted, heh.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:16:50am |
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laZardo Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:17:15am |
re: #78 reine.de.tout
FBI's most wanted is not a "secret" list. It was always intended to be well-publicized, so people would call the authorities.
I meant more like there are probably a lot of people on the FBI's Most Wanted List that are also on that target list. "Dead or Alive," as they say.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:17:40am |
re: #76 sandbox
Lately I have actually become sympathetic to the moderate muslim complaint that they don't like the use of the term radical islamist--because it is somehow pejorative to them as well. But I don't see any other choice than identifying the radical islamist movement as the enemy.
I can fully understand their point.
It's sort of how I feel when I see "conservatives" or "right-wing" used in descriptions of crazy tea-partiers and others.
But sometimes things just are what they are, and I've had to get over it and try to deal with it.
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haakondahl Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:18:35am |
re: #27 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My son was at a AAA game, in the picnic area... guy hit a home run. Son caught it bare-handed (7th grade) and... DIDN'T DROP HIS HOT DOG!
So your valuable contribution was an ability to hold weiners and balls?
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:18:50am |
re: #75 haakondahl
Well, I have my reservations, but I have been pleasantly surprised with many of this administration's decisions regarding military operations. I think that they are getting mostly good advice, and mostly acting in accordance with it. It's hard to demand more, even of your own side :-)
I chalk that up to Gen. Petraeus, Gen. McChrystal and Sec. Def. Gates.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:19:11am |
re: #82 laZardo
I meant more like there are probably a lot of people on the FBI's Most Wanted List that are also on that target list. "Dead or Alive," as they say.
ah.
Maybe so.
But I don't think they use the term "Dead or Alive" anymore. I only ever saw that in movies about the old west.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:19:23am |
re: #76 sandbox
Lately I have actually become sympathetic to the moderate muslim complaint that they don't like the use of the term radical islamist--because it is somehow pejorative to them as well. But I don't see any other choice than identifying the radical islamist movement as the enemy.
But, doesn't the word "radical" differentiate the moderates?
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:19:34am |
re: #85 MandyManners
I chalk that up to Gen. Petraeus, Gen. McChrystal and Sec. Def. Gates.
I will give the President props for listening to them.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:19:51am |
re: #80 haakondahl
Perhaps, but they're already persecuted. That's different than being targeted, heh.
Is he still in Yemen?
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:21:34am |
re: #86 reine.de.tout
ah.
Maybe so.
But I don't think they use the term "Dead or Alive" anymore. I only ever saw that in movies about the old west.
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Jadespring Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:22:04am |
Morning Lizards.
It's raining here this morning and as much as it's dull and wet I'm really happy and relieved to see it. We need it.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:22:10am |
re: #88 Cannadian Club Akbar
I will give the President props for listening to them.
How could he not if they're all singing similar tunes?
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Ericus58 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:23:31am |
Kyrgyzstan protesters storm state media offices
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
"Opposition supporters in Kyrgyzstan have stormed the offices of state radio and TV amid escalating unrest over rising fuel prices and corruption.
It comes after at least five people were killed in clashes between police and protesters outside President Kurmanbek Bakiyev's offices.
There are reports police fired live rounds after failing to disperse people with tear gas and stun grenades.
President Bakiyev has declared a state of emergency in protest-hit areas.
The unrest broke out in the provincial town of Talas on Tuesday and spread to the capital, Bishkek and another town, Narya, on Wednesday."
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:23:32am |
re: #92 MandyManners
How could he not if they're all singing similar tunes?
Well, IIRC, LBJ listened to Walter Cronkite, no?
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:24:00am |
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:27:42am |
re: #76 sandbox
Lately I have actually become sympathetic to the moderate muslim complaint that they don't like the use of the term radical islamist--because it is somehow pejorative to them as well. But I don't see any other choice than identifying the radical islamist movement as the enemy.
I would be much more sympathetic to that kind of complaint if they would first step up to the plate and unequivocably and strongly condemn radical muslims and the entire cancerous jihadi philosophy.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:29:12am |
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:29:34am |
re: #94 Ericus58
Does Kyrgyzstan have left-over Soviet nukes?
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ryannon Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:32:36am |
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:34:26am |
re: #94 Ericus58
Kyrgyzstan protesters storm state media offices
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
"Opposition supporters in Kyrgyzstan have stormed the offices of state radio and TV amid escalating unrest over rising fuel prices and corruption.
It comes after at least five people were killed in clashes between police and protesters outside President Kurmanbek Bakiyev's offices.
There are reports police fired live rounds after failing to disperse people with tear gas and stun grenades.
President Bakiyev has declared a state of emergency in protest-hit areas.
The unrest broke out in the provincial town of Talas on Tuesday and spread to the capital, Bishkek and another town, Narya, on Wednesday."
They are demanding more vowels for their country's name!
Good Morning Lizards!
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ryannon Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:35:36am |
re: #101 rwdflynavy
They are demanding more vowels for their country's name!
Good Morning Lizards!
Nvr!
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:37:11am |
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:38:16am |
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:38:35am |
re: #101 rwdflynavy
They are demanding more vowels for their country's name!
Good Morning Lizards!
Tell 'em to call Pat and Vanna.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:39:45am |
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:41:00am |
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garhighway Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:41:57am |
re: #106 Cannadian Club Akbar
Isn't Pat a tea party person?
Would his membership in the Tea Party movement add to or detract from its credibility?
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:42:35am |
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:43:05am |
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:44:59am |
The death penalty, which in Gaza would be carried out by firing squad or hanging, is inherently cruel and inhuman, and the death sentences handed down by Hamas military courts violate fair trial standards, the human rights organization said in a statement.
Most of those facing capital punishment in the Strip are affiliated with Fatah or are people whom Hamas military courts have convicted of collaborating with Israel.
On March 24, Hamas Interior Minister Fathi Hammad said the Gaza authorities would implement the death penalty in “the near future” against “agents [of Israel] who have been sentenced to death, regardless of the position of rights groups that reject these kinds of sentences.”
HASSAN CHOP
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haakondahl Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:45:11am |
re: #94 Ericus58
Kyrgyzstan protesters storm state media offices
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
"Opposition supporters in Kyrgyzstan have stormed the offices of state radio and TV amid escalating unrest over rising fuel prices and corruption.
It comes after at least five people were killed in clashes between police and protesters outside President Kurmanbek Bakiyev's offices.
There are reports police fired live rounds after failing to disperse people with tear gas and stun grenades.
President Bakiyev has declared a state of emergency in protest-hit areas.
The unrest broke out in the provincial town of Talas on Tuesday and spread to the capital, Bishkek and another town, Narya, on Wednesday."
This is bad.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:45:11am |
re: #109 garhighway
Would his membership in the Tea Party movement add to or detract from its credibility?
Don't know. But if someone is a really big "Wheel of Fortune" fan and a lemming...
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:46:19am |
re: #110 MandyManners
His Wiki says he's Conservative.
My Google-Fu said he wrote a commentary about the HCR bill.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:46:20am |
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:46:38am |
re: #115 Cannadian Club Akbar
My Google-Fu said he wrote a commentary about the HCR bill.
Off with his head.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:46:39am |
re: #109 garhighway
Would his membership in the Tea Party movement add to or detract from its credibility?
Well, if he is a member of a Tea Party, then he is certainly a racist. I'd like to know for sure.
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Ericus58 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:46:55am |
re: #99 MandyManners
Does Kyrgyzstan have left-over Soviet nukes?
I don't believe so.
Our ability to conduct operations in Afghan would bei impacted in this though since we have an airbase still there.
Quite the sticky wicket.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:52:59am |
Several hundred fighters from the Communist party of India (Maoist) appeared to have used mines and small arms against a unit of 120 men from the central reserve police force.
The force was taking part in a months-long operation in the central state of Chhattisgarh aimed at re-establishing state authority in thousands of square miles of territory now under the sway of the insurgents. This year has seen a series of such attacks though the latest is by far the most ambitious and deadly.
SNIP
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:53:32am |
re: #118 Walter L. Newton
Well, if he is a member of a Tea Party, then he is certainly a racist. I'd like to know for sure.
For real?
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:54:04am |
re: #119 Ericus58
I don't believe so.
Our ability to conduct operations in Afghan would bei impacted in this though since we have an airbase still there.Quite the sticky wicket.
Don't we also have one in Uzbekistan?
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:56:14am |
re: #112 MandyManners
HASSAN CHOP
Wait a minute. Didn't Hamas shove members of Fatah and others off tall buildings after it took control of Gaza?
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Ericus58 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:56:19am |
re: #122 MandyManners
Don't we also have one in Uzbekistan?
I'm going to have to do some searching if I find the time. I do know that Russia had persuaded one of these countries to end our lease in return for Russian "agreements".
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:58:02am |
Caracas city administrator Richard Blanco, who insists he is innocent and says the charges are politically motivated, announced outside the courthouse that he plans to start campaigning as a candidate for the National Assembly in Sept. 26 elections.
Blanco was freed on condition that he appear in court every 15 days, that he not leave Venezuela without the judge's permission and that he not speak to the media about his case ahead of his trial, defense lawyer Negar Granados said.
SNIP
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:58:53am |
re: #124 Ericus58
I'm going to have to do some searching if I find the time. I do know that Russia had persuaded one of these countries to end our lease in return for Russian "agreements".
Didja' see my link about Ukraine? No. 72.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:58:56am |
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Ericus58 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 5:59:47am |
re: #125 MandyManners
Sean Penn couldn't be reached for comment...
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:00:58am |
re: #124 Ericus58
This is from 2005. Google found an article about our being forced out of Uzbekistan that year.
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:01:07am |
re: #127 Walter L. Newton
What do you think?
I read that Tiger Woods will be attending a tee party in Atlanta.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:01:19am |
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:01:38am |
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:02:07am |
re: #130 Spare O'Lake
I read that Tiger Woods will be attending a tee party in Atlanta.
So, he's gonna' join the club?
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Ericus58 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:04:43am |
re: #126 MandyManners
Didja' see my link about Ukraine? No. 72.
Just went back and read it... early morning fog.
Russia has shown it's direction in re-establishing influence within their neighborhood and these countries are lining up so as not to stick out like a sore thumb.
With this Administrations retreat from previously goals for cooperation and ties with these border nations to Russia, I can't blame them.
Today, the Polish President will be on hand as a guest of Putin to honor the memory of some 20,000 Polish citizens killed in 1940 at the direction of Stalin - which the Soviets had always blamed on the Germans until 1990.
Our's and Nato's influence is diminishing in Eastern Europe...
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:04:46am |
re: #129 MandyManners
In a highly unusual move, the notice of eviction from Karshi-Khanabad air base, known as K2, was delivered by a courier from the Uzbek Foreign Ministry to the U.S. Embassy in Tashkent, said a senior U.S. administration official involved in Central Asia policy. The message did not give a reason. Uzbekistan will give the United States 180 days to move aircraft, personnel and equipment, U.S. officials said.
SNIP
Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld returned this week from Central Asia, where he won assurances from Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan that the United States can use their bases for operations in Afghanistan. U.S. forces use Tajikistan for emergency landings and occasional refueling, but it lacks good roads into Afghanistan. Kyrgyzstan does not border Afghanistan.
SNIP
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ryannon Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:05:25am |
re: #123 MandyManners
Wait a minute. Didn't Hamas shove members of Fatah and others off tall buildings after it took control of Gaza?
Since no one was really counting, that didn't count.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:06:07am |
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:06:32am |
re: #133 MandyManners
So, he's gonna' join the club?
Isn't it a bit early to start the Masters baiting?
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:07:19am |
re: #136 ryannon
Since no one was really counting, that didn't count.
Richard Goldstone couldn't be reached.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:07:44am |
re: #138 Spare O'Lake
Isn't it a bit early to start the Masters baiting?
Some people are into fore-thought.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:08:15am |
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RogueOne Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:11:17am |
They came through my neighborhood this last fall and changed all the gas and water meters. I haven't received a gas bill at my home for months so I called a couple weeks ago to find out wtf the deal was and to pay my bill by phone. Luckily, the gas company employee I talked to put a record of our conversation in the system because last night I noticed they had turned off my gas. They apologized and gave me $25 off of my next bill but it was too late to get someone out last night to turn it back on so I've been hanging at the house waiting. I have the front door open, with the screen door shut and locked, and I just heard the dogs going nuts so I knew he was here. When I came walking through the gas guy was trying to get my door open, which pissed off the dogs and my dobe just stuck her head through the screen trying to get him and that dumbass tries to pet her on her head. I should have let her bite him for the trouble they've put me through. I think they owe me a new screen too.
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:12:11am |
re: #141 MandyManners
Some people are into fore-thought.
I wonder how many golf fans will be pulling for Tiger this week.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:13:00am |
re: #145 Spare O'Lake
I wonder how many golf fans will be pulling for Tiger this week.
[Link: www.reuters.com...]
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:13:54am |
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:15:09am |
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:15:58am |
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laZardo Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:16:13am |
re: #148 MandyManners
That's why you need to wield that wood with a will of iron.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:16:45am |
re: #144 RogueOne
They came through my neighborhood this last fall and changed all the gas and water meters. I haven't received a gas bill at my home for months so I called a couple weeks ago to find out wtf the deal was and to pay my bill by phone. Luckily, the gas company employee I talked to put a record of our conversation in the system because last night I noticed they had turned off my gas. They apologized and gave me $25 off of my next bill but it was too late to get someone out last night to turn it back on so I've been hanging at the house waiting. I have the front door open, with the screen door shut and locked, and I just heard the dogs going nuts so I knew he was here. When I came walking through the gas guy was trying to get my door open, which pissed off the dogs and my dobe just stuck her head through the screen trying to get him and that dumbass tries to pet her on her head. I should have let her bite him for the trouble they've put me through. I think they owe me a new screen too.
He was trying to enter your house illegally?
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:16:54am |
re: #150 laZardo
That's why you need to wield that wood with a will of iron.
And keep your eye on the birdie.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:17:08am |
re: #145 Spare O'Lake
I wonder how many golf fans will be pulling for Tiger this week.
Pulling *what*?
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:18:09am |
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:18:18am |
re: #150 laZardo
That's why you need to wield that wood with a will of iron.
And keep your balls in your bag.
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McSpiff Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:18:37am |
re: #97 Spare O'Lake
I would be much more sympathetic to that kind of complaint if they would first step up to the plate and unequivocably and strongly condemn radical muslims and the entire cancerous jihadi philosophy.
Examples of which are posted here everyday. Yesterday I posted about Indian Muslims refusing to allow the mumbai terrorists to even be buried in a muslim graveyard. How many other groups have done the same?
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:18:55am |
re: #150 laZardo
That's why you need to wield that wood with a will of iron.
He got into trouble for letting others to do just that.
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laZardo Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:19:08am |
re: #155 Spare O'Lake
This way you won't face a water hazard 9 months down the line.
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RogueOne Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:19:16am |
re: #151 MandyManners
I was expecting him but I'm surprised someone would try to walk into a house where 2 dobermans are at the door giving him hell. She stuck her head all the way through the screen trying to get him and that idiot was just going to walk in.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:20:20am |
re: #159 RogueOne
I was expecting him but I'm surprised someone would try to walk into a house where 2 dobermans are at the door giving him hell. She stuck her head all the way through the screen trying to get him and that idiot was just going to walk in.
Darwin in action!
Seriously, he didn't knock or ring the bell?
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:20:23am |
re: #156 McSpiff
Examples of which are posted here everyday. Yesterday I posted about Indian Muslims refusing to allow the mumbai terrorists to even be buried in a muslim graveyard. How many other groups have done the same?
What about right here in the USA and Canada? With few exceptions, the silence is still deafening.
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RogueOne Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:22:20am |
re: #160 MandyManners
Didn't ring the bell. I didn't hear a knock but I was in the other room and the dogs got real loud real quick so I don't know.
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McSpiff Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:23:13am |
re: #161 Spare O'Lake
What about right here in the USA and Canada? With few exceptions, the silence is still deafening.
Not from where I stand. Every time a Muslim nut makes the news, I see Muslim groups falling over themselves to condemn the guy.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:23:34am |
re: #162 RogueOne
Didn't ring the bell. I didn't hear a knock but I was in the other room and the dogs got real loud real quick so I don't know.
Doesn't matter if there was a knock. If you didn't say "come in" dude needs to just stand and wait.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:25:00am |
I bet they take better care of their weapons.
Ten containers were allowed into Gaza on Sunday and a further 10 today of goods have sat in storage for three years, costing their owners thousands of pounds in fees and in some cases arriving so riddled with damp that the items are unsellable.
SNIP
The result has been the collapse of private industry in the Palestinian territory, leaving in disrepair the thousands of homes damaged or destroyed in Israel's war last year and allowing the flourishing of a Hamas-regulated smuggling economy through tunnels into Egypt.
The Israeli government says its economic blockade of Gaza will remain until Hamas halts violence, recognises Israel and accepts previous peace agreements. Egypt also keeps its one crossing into Gaza largely closed and has started building a steel underground wall to curb smuggling.
Hamza Abu Helal, who has run a trading business in Gaza City for 37 years, finally received a long-overdue delivery across the Kerem Shalom crossing with Israel on Sunday. But when he opened the container and started going through the yellow boxes of his 13,000 men's shirts – marked "Al Helal, Italy Style" – he found around 80% of the garments were ruined by damp. Now the spoiled shirts are piled in a heap in an alleyway next to his warehouse.
SNIP
What are they smuggling? Gee. I wonder.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:25:52am |
re: #162 RogueOne
Didn't ring the bell. I didn't hear a knock but I was in the other room and the dogs got real loud real quick so I don't know.
I'd call the office to give them a head's up that his actions could've cost him a lot of pain.
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:25:55am |
re: #153 MandyManners
Pulling *what*?
Are those things your *asterisks* or are you just happy to see Tiger's woods?
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:26:08am |
re: #163 McSpiff
Not from where I stand. Every time a Muslim nut makes the news, I see Muslim groups falling over themselves to condemn the guy.
Link?
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:26:40am |
re: #167 Spare O'Lake
Are those things your *asterisks* or are you just happy to see Tiger's woods?
It wasn't a *perk*.
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RogueOne Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:27:37am |
re: #164 Cannadian Club Akbar
Doesn't matter if there was a knock. If you didn't say "come in" dude needs to just stand and wait.
I'd never go inside someones house if I'm met by a dog who doesn't know me. That's just asking for it. If I hadn't have come into the room and he walked in on his own, she would have done her best to eat him. My boy would have just sat there and egged her on. The only time he gets defensive is if a stranger walks up on my wife.
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McSpiff Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:27:44am |
re: #168 MandyManners
Link?
Shit, changing classes. I'll be posting it in about 20 if you're still around.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:28:30am |
NIMBY!
U.S. Reps. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Alcee Hastings and Corrine Brown wrote to Obama Tuesday, asking for a meeting with Interior Secretary Ken Salazar and presidential advisor Carol Browner, a Florida native who last week said the 125-mile proposed buffer should keep Florida protected.
"The threat your plan poses to Florida's economy is a real worry," the three wrote. "The coasts of Florida play an important role in sustaining the tourism and fishing industries so vital to the state's economy."
The letter comes a day after Tampa Democrat Kathy Castor wrote to Obama, noting that as Salazar himself put it, "there are some places in our country that are too special to drill. Florida's coastline certainly fits that description."
SNIP
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:28:56am |
re: #171 McSpiff
Shit, changing classes. I'll be posting it in about 20 if you're still around.
I will be.
Study hard!
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:30:54am |
re: #172 MandyManners
Wasserman Schultz is a Pelosi toadie and Kathy Castor cost her district a cigar making plant. 500 people lost their jobs because of Castor. Hastings is just a douche.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:32:17am |
"If I feel that security conditions are not guaranteed -- not just for the observers but for the people of Darfur -- and if I am not certain these elections will allow for credible monitoring, I will not observe them," Veronique de Keyser told AFP from Darfur's capital el-Fasher.
Darfur, an arid desert region the size of France, has been gripped by a civil war since 2003 that has killed some 300,000 people according to UN figures. Khartoum says 10,000 people have died.
Sudan is to hold its first multi-party general election since 1986 on Sunday, which will include presidential, legislative and local polls.
Opposition parties have accused President Omar al-Beshir of fraud in the landmark vote.
SNIP
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:32:30am |
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:32:53am |
re: #175 Cannadian Club Akbar
Wasserman Schultz is a Pelosi toadie and Kathy Castor cost her district a cigar making plant. 500 people lost their jobs because of Castor. Hastings is just a douche.
You're not their biggest fan?
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RogueOne Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:33:04am |
water should be warm enough for a shower and I smell bad. have a good day folks.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:34:27am |
re: #178 MandyManners
You're not their biggest fan?
Doesn't matter. They are in pretty safe districts.
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:34:35am |
re: #163 McSpiff
Not from where I stand. Every time a Muslim nut makes the news, I see Muslim groups falling over themselves to condemn the guy.
Since "Muslim nuts" seem to make the news on a daily basis, please feel free to post links to a few recent US or Canadian examples.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:38:17am |
re: #181 Spare O'Lake
Since "Muslim nuts" seem to make the news on a daily basis, please feel free to post links to a few recent US or Canadian examples.
Didja' see my link about the pro-Israel Canadian students who were assaulted by anti-Israeli people who shouted at them in English and Arabic?
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:46:05am |
re: #182 MandyManners
Didja' see my link about the pro-Israel Canadian students who were assaulted by anti-Israeli people who shouted at them in English and Arabic?
I missed your link but if it was the story about the two Ottawa students who were attacked near the bridge by a machete-flinging mob of anti-Israeli fuckwads, I read about it in the paper.
The silence from the "moderates" on that one has so far been deafening.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:46:29am |
“I am today compelled to make the distasteful choice to invite my own court-martial, in pursuit of the truth about the president’s eligibility under the constitution to hold office,” Lakin said in a YouTube video being circulated by Safeguard Our Constitution, an organization raising money for Lakin’s legal defense.
“If he is ineligible, I believe my orders and all orders are illegal,” said Lakin, 45. “Any reasonable person looking at the evidence in the public domain would have questions about President Obama’s claim to be a natural-born citizen.”
SNIP
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:47:13am |
re: #183 Spare O'Lake
I missed your link but if it was the story about the two Ottawa students who were attacked near the bridge by a machete-flinging mob of anti-Israeli fuckwads, I read about it in the paper.
The silence from the "moderates" on that one has so far been deafening.
That's the one. It's in No. 51.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:47:26am |
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:47:28am |
When playing blackjack, always double down on 11.:)
[Link: www.palmbeachpost.com...]
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pingjockey Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:47:43am |
Mornin' folks. Y'all that have been following the tea party loons maybe able to help. Why are they supporting McCain and not Hayworth in AZ? I thought Hayworth was a severe right winger? Needless to say I'm confused.
Some nut has been arrested here in WA state for threatening Sen. Patty Murray. He's from Selah. That is down towards Yakima. The Seattle news station didn't elaborate on if he was militia, tea party or just a standard Mark 1 Mod 0 nutbar.
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:48:46am |
Well, it's time to go aggravate some real folks for a while.
Laters gators.
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pingjockey Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:49:22am |
re: #184 MandyManners
Court Martial his ass and give him a Bad Conduct Dishcharge or a Dishonorable Discharge. Can't remember off the top of my head which is worse. He's an asshole.
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lawhawk Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:50:08am |
re: #184 MandyManners
Then it is court martial for this guy for disobeying lawful orders.
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:51:32am |
re: #189 pingjockey
I've read a lot of people who are at McCain rallies to see Palin, but who are planning on voting for Hayworth. It's odd that they can just ignore who Plain is campaigning for and not have it either change their opinion of McCain-- or of her.
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Political Atheist Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:51:56am |
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prairiefire Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:52:02am |
re: #189 pingjockey
There seems to be some division among the tea partiers in AZ. Palin is supporting McCain and she's the Tea Party Queen. Hayworth is trying to appeal to the birther crowd. I don't have current polling stats.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:52:11am |
re: #189 pingjockey
[Link: www.politicsdaily.com...]
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lawhawk Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:52:27am |
Developing: Riots in Kyrgyzstan have apparently killed the interior minister.
A mob of angry protesters on Wednesday beat up Kyrgyzstan's interior minister, who died shortly afterward, an opposition member said.Opposition activist Shamil Murat told The Associated Press that he saw the dead body of Minister Moldomusa Kongatiyev in a government building in the western town of Talas.
In the nation's capital of Bishkek, police opened fire on thousands of angry protesters who tried to seize the Central Asian nation's main government building, wounding at least 180.
An opposition leader said at least 17 protesters were killed. An AP reporter saw 12 with gunshot wounds but could not immediately confirm that anyone had died. No authorities were immediately available in Bishkek to comment on the reported deaths.
The protesters were out in force over increases in utility costs and anger over the authoritarian bent of President Kurmanbek Bakiyev.
Expect a much harsher crackdown in light of the murder of the interior minister. This has the potential to get quite ugly.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:52:38am |
Retired Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O’Connor told several reporters at New York Law School that it was never easy to get justices to attend.
"It is not much fun to go because you put on a black robe and march in and you’re seated in the front row, (you) put your hands in your lap and have no expression on your face throughout the proceedings. You can clap when the president comes in and when he leaves and that’s it. It’s very awkward," she said.
SNIP
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laZardo Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:52:54am |
Heading to bed. Gotta wake up early tomorrow, but Friday is a holiday.
Cheers.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:53:13am |
re: #190 Spare O'Lake
Well, it's time to go aggravate some real folks for a while.
Laters gators.
Don't run with scissors.
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prairiefire Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:53:53am |
re: #197 Cannadian Club Akbar
That should add nicely to the dastardly plot of the MSM disparaging of the Opposition!/
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:53:56am |
re: #191 pingjockey
Court Martial his ass and give him a Bad Conduct Dishcharge or a Dishonorable Discharge. Can't remember off the top of my head which is worse. He's an asshole.
re: #192 lawhawk
Then it is court martial for this guy for disobeying lawful orders.
What if his attorneys subpoena the birth certificate?
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Political Atheist Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:54:09am |
[Link: blog.newsweek.com...]
THE IDEA: The Department of Defense is designing nonnuclear intercontinental ballistic missiles, which could be operational in less than two years. Packed with conventional explosives, they would be able to strike pretty much anywhere on the planet within one hour. ICBMs travel above the atmosphere, so they avoid most radar systems and the airspace of countries en route. For this capability, the U.S. is "willing to pay a great deal," says Mark Lewis, the Air Force's top technology official until his retirement this year.
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pingjockey Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:54:35am |
re: #194 Obdicut
Well, they've done a bang up job of confusing me. I know we had a "tea party" out here in the wilds of north central WA and it was farmers, loggers, miners, small business owners, etc. All hollering about taxes. Nary a racist or moron to be seen. Thank God. Some of the stuff that has been posted is vile and boggles the mind.
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lawhawk Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:54:49am |
re: #195 Rightwingconspirator
I hadn't seen that, but it pretty much covers stuff I'd known for some time.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:54:52am |
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pingjockey Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:55:10am |
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darthstar Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:55:34am |
re: #190 Spare O'Lake
Well, it's time to go aggravate some real folks for a while.
Laters gators.
Hey...I'm real. No, really I am. Oh shit...this is all just a fantasy?
Good morning everyone else in my mind.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:55:36am |
Guitar nerds of a certain age and/or genre demographic may find this amusing:
Dweezil Zappa plays "Eruption"
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:55:52am |
re: #198 lawhawk
Developing: Riots in Kyrgyzstan have apparently killed the interior minister.
The protesters were out in force over increases in utility costs and anger over the authoritarian bent of President Kurmanbek Bakiyev.
Expect a much harsher crackdown in light of the murder of the interior minister. This has the potential to get quite ugly.
And, they took hostage a deputy minister.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:56:19am |
re: #209 darthstar
Hey...I'm real. No, really I am. Oh shit...this is all just a fantasy?
Good morning everyone else in my mind.
Ignore the man behind the curtain!!!
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lawhawk Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:56:59am |
re: #203 MandyManners
Considering that Hawaii has already stated that the COLB is the lawful document and shows his birth in Hawaii, it looks like any subpoena will be rejected.
Besides, subpoenaing the birth certificate isn't going to get him out of disobeying lawfully directed orders.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:57:44am |
re: #204 Rightwingconspirator
[Link: blog.newsweek.com...]
THE IDEA: The Department of Defense is designing nonnuclear intercontinental ballistic missiles, which could be operational in less than two years. Packed with conventional explosives, they would be able to strike pretty much anywhere on the planet within one hour. ICBMs travel above the atmosphere, so they avoid most radar systems and the airspace of countries en route. For this capability, the U.S. is "willing to pay a great deal," says Mark Lewis, the Air Force's top technology official until his retirement this year.
Moscow's against it.
Two days before Obama is to sign a landmark nuclear arms reduction pact with President Dmitry Medvedev, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov also repeated Moscow’s warning it could withdraw from the treaty if US missile-defence plans threatened Russia.
SNIP
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pingjockey Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:57:47am |
re: #204 Rightwingconspirator
Hell, wouldn't even need explosives. A orbital vehicle travels at 17,000 mph. It would make one hell of a kinetic energy weapon.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 6:59:09am |
re: #207 Cannadian Club Akbar
Is Orly his lawyer?
/
No, his dentist. She removed the radio transmitter from his molar.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:00:00am |
re: #213 lawhawk
Considering that Hawaii has already stated that the COLB is the lawful document and shows his birth in Hawaii, it looks like any subpoena will be rejected.
Besides, subpoenaing the birth certificate isn't going to get him out of disobeying lawfully directed orders.
But, his argument is that the orders are NOT legal.
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pingjockey Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:00:25am |
re: #216 MandyManners
Who's Orly? People behind the curve would like to know!
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lawhawk Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:01:28am |
re: #204 Rightwingconspirator
A problem with that program is that it might conflict with various nuclear weapons treaties - and the difficulty of distinguishing between a conventionally laden missile and one tipped with nuclear warheads means that if let's say the Russians or Chinese spot the US launching, they might have to take action by firing their own nuclear tipped missiles back at the US because they wouldn't want to risk losing their strike capabilities. And if the US warns the Chinese or Russians in advance, it might tip off the target of the US strike to prepare for a missile strike.
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darthstar Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:01:30am |
re: #219 pingjockey
Who's Orly? People behind the curve would like to know!
She is the brood-mare of the birthers.
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Henchman 25 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:02:12am |
re: #219 pingjockey
Who's Orly? People behind the curve would like to know!
Orly Taitz. The woman responsible starting the whole Birther nontroversy.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:02:43am |
re: #221 darthstar
She is the brood-mare of the birthers.
But wait!! There's more!!
[Link: www.examiner.com...]
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:04:06am |
My radio just said Martina Navratilova has breast cancer. Thought and prayers for her.
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pingjockey Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:04:13am |
re: #220 lawhawk
One ICBM when launched looks like another. No way to tell the difference. So there is that issue! It's a good idea though. A trident II SLBM has enough accuaracy to take out hardened targets w/o a nuc warhead.
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:04:51am |
re: #205 pingjockey
My fiancee's parents were part of a small Tea Party group that didn't include any racists, either. But when they showed up to a larger event, there were entire groups that were obviously head-to-toe racists, with placards about Obama being a Kenyan, one sign saying "No 'reparations' for health care", anti-illegal immigration signs, etc.
Since my fiancee's mom is not white, she didn't feel so comfy and they left.
I'm sure that there are lots of Tea Party groups without a hint of racism. But at every large meeting, they're infested with racists, Birchers, and just plain lunatics, and nobody has the moral courage to tell the people with the awful signs to leave. It's free speech and association taken to the most illogical extreme; respecting free speech doesn't mean you have to endorse it.
For example, I think that some Israeli policies are counter-productive or wrong-headed. However, I will never join any march or protest against Israeli actions or policies, because i know it will be infested with anti-Semites who aren't objecting to the policies, but to the Jewishness of Israelis. I won't lend my presence or voice to support that.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:06:15am |
First it was the equivalent of anti-Semitism. Then, it was "petty gossip". Next, t's the work of Satan. Now, it's a hate campaign.
SPIN [sic]
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:06:47am |
re: #219 pingjockey
Who's Orly? People behind the curve would like to know!
Orly Taitz is a leading Nirther. Charles has quite a few posts about her.
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pingjockey Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:06:53am |
re: #228 Obdicut
I understand. Maybe we just dodged a bullet so to speak. It was in Okanogan county and it's a couple of hours easily from Spokane or Seattle, so the turnout was concerned citizens not asshats.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:07:11am |
re: #219 pingjockey
Who's Orly? People behind the curve would like to know!
She's a dentist and an attorney. Wigged-out woman.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:07:33am |
Morning everyone. Here's my favorite comic strip on war and the rules of engagement.
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pingjockey Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:07:52am |
re: #230 MandyManners
Thanks. I thought we put the nirthers to bed a while ago. See what happens when you get sick? Ya miss all kinds of stuff!
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:08:19am |
re: #234 pingjockey
Thanks. I thought we put the nirthers to bed a while ago. See what happens when you get sick? Ya miss all kinds of stuff!
The Nirthers ain't going away.
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pingjockey Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:09:07am |
re: #235 MandyManners
I really, really wish they would. Sigh.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:10:35am |
re: #236 pingjockey
I really, really wish they would. Sigh.
World Nut Daily won't let it go away, either.
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pingjockey Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:10:43am |
Later folks. Off to do a suppression system at Jameson Lake WA. Nice day it appears for a drive.
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:12:07am |
re: #231 pingjockey
I think it's a 'birds of a feather flock together' phenomenon. A respectable, sane group will attact sane members. A crazy one will attract crazy members. But the problem is that any large gathering of Tea Party people includes some of those crazy groups-- and the organizers, the guys like Dick Armey, the Birchers, and the rest of them-- they don't care, they'd probably prefer they were all the crazy types.
So you have some decent people joining Tea Party groups, but it's ruined by the nature of the organizers and the lack of any sort of discipline about association. And I think we'll find more and more that the crazy people and the racists drive out the good people.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:18:24am |
One Dutch marine was slightly injured during the storming of the German ship MS Taipan, which had been boarded early on Monday by 10 Somali pirates from small boats armed with machine guns. The 15-man German crew of MS Taipan had radioed for help after taking refuge in a secure cabin on board the ship.
SNIP
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:18:38am |
Hi, all. Just a quick drive-by post to wish everyone a good day. I have to head out soon for a job interview. Have fun today and I'll see everyone this afternoon.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:18:50am |
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badger1970 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:19:07am |
The tea party isn't about fiscal responsibility anymore (and hasn't been for over a year). It's just about attacking the President.
Unfortunately, the GOP silence on tea party issue is read as consent. The crazy uncle ain't going away without a swift kick in the butt.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:19:14am |
re: #241 Dark_Falcon
Hi, all. Just a quick drive-by post to wish everyone a good day. I have to head out soon for a job interview. Have fun today and I'll see everyone this afternoon.
Good luck!
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:19:20am |
re: #241 Dark_Falcon
Hi, all. Just a quick drive-by post to wish everyone a good day. I have to head out soon for a job interview. Have fun today and I'll see everyone this afternoon.
Good luck!
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Donna Ballard Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:20:03am |
re: #241 Dark_Falcon
Hi, all. Just a quick drive-by post to wish everyone a good day. I have to head out soon for a job interview. Have fun today and I'll see everyone this afternoon.
As we say here in Hollywood, break a leg!
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avanti Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:20:24am |
CNN covers the Tea Parties with a black reporter, driving a Volvo and gives a
fair and balanced report:
"Here's what you often see in the coverage of Tea Party rallies: offensive posters blasting President Obama and Democratic leaders; racist rhetoric spewed from what seems to be a largely white, male audience; and angry protesters rallying around the Constitution.
Case in point: During the health care debate last month, opponents shouted racial slurs at civil rights icon Georgia Rep. John Lewis and one person spit on Missouri Rep. Emanuel Cleaver. The incidents made national headlines, and they provided Tea Party opponents with fodder to question the movement.
But here's what you don't often see in the coverage of Tea Party rallies: Patriotic signs professing a love for country; mothers and fathers with their children; African-Americans proudly participating; and senior citizens bopping to a hip-hop rapper."
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Donna Ballard Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:22:02am |
Good Morning Everyone! Happy Wednesday to you all! I have a day of scrubbing out my parents bathrooms ahead of me as they have become too elderly to do it themselves, so I thought I'd jump in for a few moments before I leave. How's everyone doing this lovely morning?
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Bubblehead II Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:23:27am |
Morning Lizards. I hope today finds you well.
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Donna Ballard Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:24:23am |
re: #232 MandyManners
She's a dentist and an attorney. Wigged-out woman.
Thats what happens when you spend everyday listening to people gabble their speech and looking into caverns full of teeth!//
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:25:57am |
re: #247 avanti
CNN covers the Tea Parties with a black reporter, driving a Volvo and gives a
fair and balanced report:"Here's what you often see in the coverage of Tea Party rallies: offensive posters blasting President Obama and Democratic leaders; racist rhetoric spewed from what seems to be a largely white, male audience; and angry protesters rallying around the Constitution.
Case in point: During the health care debate last month, opponents shouted racial slurs at civil rights icon Georgia Rep. John Lewis and one person spit on Missouri Rep. Emanuel Cleaver. The incidents made national headlines, and they provided Tea Party opponents with fodder to question the movement.
But here's what you don't often see in the coverage of Tea Party rallies: Patriotic signs professing a love for country; mothers and fathers with their children; African-Americans proudly participating; and senior citizens bopping to a hip-hop rapper."
Did you read the entire article... it seems this reporter gives the whole experience a much more fair and balanced coverage than your clips and pastes imply... such as at the NV stop, the kick off stop...
"There were a few signs that could be seen as offensive to African-Americans. But by and large, no one I spoke with or I heard from on stage said anything that was approaching racist. Almost everyone I met was welcoming to this African-American television news producer."
Sort of missed that, didn't you?
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:26:08am |
'Tis but a flesh wound.
But it was obvious to staff at Liverpool John Lennon Airport that Curt Willi Jarant (91), hidden behind dark sunglasses, would never be able to answer the few simple security questions demanded of passengers.
If he had been asked whether he had packed his own bags, he was not in a position to say one way or the other as he was dead.
Police arrested the two women, Gitta Jarant (66), the man's widow; and his stepdaughter, Anke Anusic (44), on suspicion of failing to give notification of a death.
SNIP
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:27:16am |
re: #250 Dragon_Lady
Thats what happens when you spend everyday listening to people gabble their speech and looking into caverns full of teeth!//
Don't dentists have the highest suicide rates among professionals?
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Bubblehead II Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:28:54am |
re: #252 MandyManners
Isn't this more like a Weekend at Bernies moment?
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:29:00am |
re: #254 MandyManners
Don't dentists have the highest suicide rates among professionals?
My eye doctor from my young years shot himself.
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:29:27am |
re: #251 Walter L. Newton
How did he 'miss that'? He linked to the whole article, and included the paragraph that clearly said:
But here's what you don't often see in the coverage of Tea Party rallies: Patriotic signs professing a love for country; mothers and fathers with their children; African-Americans proudly participating; and senior citizens bopping to a hip-hop rapper."
Did you miss that?
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:30:32am |
re: #257 Obdicut
How did he 'miss that'? He linked to the whole article, and included the paragraph that clearly said:
Did you miss that?
Yawn.
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:31:29am |
re: #258 Walter L. Newton
You yawn a lot. I find a half-hour nap, judiciously applied after a morning run and some breakfast, can help with that.
Powernapping in the evening, however, is the work of the devil, and should not be tolerated.
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Donna Ballard Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:31:35am |
re: #254 MandyManners
Don't dentists have the highest suicide rates among professionals?
If they don't they should! What a profession! Nobody wants to see them, everyone does their best to avoid them not to mention getting bitten on a regular basis, looking into other peoples mouths has to be right up down there with looking into a sewer when it comes to germ infested places! Ugh! I work real hard to keep my teeth clean and cavity free, let me tell you!
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avanti Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:32:55am |
re: #251 Walter L. Newton
Did you read the entire article... it seems this reporter gives the whole experience a much more fair and balanced coverage than your clips and pastes imply... such as at the NV stop, the kick off stop...
"There were a few signs that could be seen as offensive to African-Americans. But by and large, no one I spoke with or I heard from on stage said anything that was approaching racist. Almost everyone I met was welcoming to this African-American television news producer."
Sort of missed that, didn't you?
No, my entire point was that CNN showed both sides, thus the link.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:33:31am |
re: #250 Dragon_Lady
The plot of Justified last night dealt with a former mob accountant (in hiding from the mob) who became a dentist. The funny part is he was inspired by the elf from Rudolph the Rednosed Reindeer who wanted to be a dentist. ("You mean the little gay dude?" the US Marshal main character asked him)
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Donna Ballard Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:33:39am |
re: #259 Obdicut
You yawn a lot. I find a half-hour nap, judiciously applied after a morning run and some breakfast, can help with that.
Powernapping in the evening, however, is the work of the devil, and should not be tolerated.
If I nap at all I get real b_t_hy! Unless I'm sick, you won't catch me napping at all.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:34:22am |
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:34:44am |
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:34:49am |
re: #262 Mad Al-Jaffee
The plot of Justified last night dealt with a former mob accountant (in hiding from the mob) who became a dentist. The funny part is he was inspired by the elf from Rudolph the Rednosed Reindeer who wanted to be a dentist. ("You mean the little gay dude?" the US Marshal main character asked him)
Ernie?
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:34:56am |
re: #263 Dragon_Lady
Heh. My fiancée naps a lot, but she's, ah, difficult after she wakes up from one, to be sure. It's kind of funny, because she looks so angelic when she's asleep.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:35:12am |
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:35:26am |
re: #260 Dragon_Lady
If they don't they should! What a profession! Nobody wants to see them, everyone does their best to avoid them not to mention getting bitten on a regular basis, looking into other peoples mouths has to be right
updown there with looking into a sewer when it comes to germ infested places! Ugh! I work real hard to keep my teeth clean and cavity free, let me tell you!
Well, not that you put it that way, I can understand it.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:35:54am |
re: #267 Obdicut
Heh. My fiancée naps a lot, but she's, ah, difficult after she wakes up from one, to be sure. It's kind of funny, because she looks so angelic when she's asleep.
You better hope she's not looking over your shoulder right about now!!
//
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Donna Ballard Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:36:23am |
re: #267 Obdicut
Heh. My fiancée naps a lot, but she's, ah, difficult after she wakes up from one, to be sure. It's kind of funny, because she looks so angelic when she's asleep.
RWC gets mad at me if I drop off during the day, he tends to leave for an hour or so until I get over the b_t_chiness. I don't enjoy it much myself.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:37:48am |
Prosecutors have dropped lying charges against two Navy SEALs implicated in a detainee abuse case.
Petty Officer 1st Class Julio Huertas and Petty Officer 2nd Class Jonathan Keefe still face courts-martial for allegedly not protecting a reputed terrorist after his capture in Fallujah, Iraq. Huertas faces a second charge of impeding an investigation.
Charges that the men lied to an investigator were formally withdrawn Tuesday in response to earlier testimony from a Naval Criminal Investigative Service agent who said he did not read them their rights.
The SEALs and their lawyers met with prosecutors and the judge for the final time in Norfolk before the proceedings move to Camp Victory in Baghdad.
Lawyers for both SEALs requested the change so the men can face their accuser in court. Ahmed Hashim Abed is described as the mastermind of the murders of four American contractors in Fallujah in 2004. The SEALs helped capture him in September.
SNIP
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:39:16am |
re: #270 Cannadian Club Akbar
She actually had a really funny moment awhile ago, when we were talking about a friend of mine's high-maintenance girlfriend.
My fiancée stopped mid-sentence, and said in a voice filled with discovery, "I'm high-maintenance".
She is. But she's also beautiful, a genius, amazingly good at making my life happy, and says the most interesting things I've ever heard. She's high-maintenance because she's high-quality.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:41:21am |
re: #261 avanti
No, my entire point was that CNN showed both sides, thus the link.
By your clip and paste, the "fairness" of the article was no where near evident. I took care of that. Thank you.
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yoshicastmaster Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:41:24am |
hahaha
i read this as i sit in constitutional law while the prof discusses judicial postures on gay marriage and abortion rights.
so it seems very correct to me!
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:41:56am |
ROPMA.
The incident occurred near a police checkpoint in Amariyat Al-Fallujah, a village 15km east of the former Sunni rebel bastion of Fallujah and due west of Baghdad, said Captain Anas al-Issawi.
"The 10-year-old boy had been used by al-Qaeda in the past to place bombs," Issawi said, adding that the child disappeared from his family home in Amariyat Al-Fallujah four days ago.
SNIP
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:41:59am |
re: #259 Obdicut
You yawn a lot. I find a half-hour nap, judiciously applied after a morning run and some breakfast, can help with that.
Powernapping in the evening, however, is the work of the devil, and should not be tolerated.
No... your comments to me are boring... a lot.
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Donna Ballard Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:42:11am |
re: #273 Obdicut
She actually had a really funny moment awhile ago, when we were talking about a friend of mine's high-maintenance girlfriend.
My fiancée stopped mid-sentence, and said in a voice filled with discovery, "I'm high-maintenance".
She is. But she's also beautiful, a genius, amazingly good at making my life happy, and says the most interesting things I've ever heard. She's high-maintenance because she's high-quality.
Up-ding for love! She's a luck lady she is! I hope she appreciates you as much as you odiously do her! :-)
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:44:07am |
re: #275 yoshicastmaster
hahaha
i read this as i sit in constitutional law while the prof discusses judicial postures on gay marriage and abortion rights.
so it seems very correct to me!
As Churchill said, "To jaw-jaw is always better than to war-war".
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Donna Ballard Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:44:39am |
re: #280 MandyManners
As Churchill said, "To jaw-jaw is always better than to war-war".
Nice one Mandy! Up-ding for you too!
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:44:48am |
re: #278 Dragon_Lady
We're ridiculously appreciative of each other. It's all very squishy and wonderful.
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Donna Ballard Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:46:52am |
re: #282 Obdicut
We're ridiculously appreciative of each other. It's all very squishy and wonderful.
Squishiness is nice! It makes for a great relationship in the long run.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:47:17am |
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:48:19am |
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:49:13am |
Until yesterday's formal announcement of the administration's new Nuclear Posture Review, nukes also kept us safe from a range of threats short of a doomsday scenario: Our enemies risked going only so far. Nukes didn't prevent all wars -- but wars remained local.
Yesterday, we threw away a significant part of history's most successful deterrent.
This looks like an act of reckless vanity on the part of the administration, but let's allow that this weakening of our national defense is the result of misguided idealism. The important thing isn't the politics, but the practical consequences.
SNIP
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avanti Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:49:42am |
re: #274 Walter L. Newton
By your clip and paste, the "fairness" of the article was no where near evident. I took care of that. Thank you.
You've confused me. I post that CNN gives a fair and balanced report and cut and pasted the stereotypical negative slant we often see, and the more positive side from the reporter. I than post a link to the entire piece, and you take that as 180 degrees from my intent. When another poster sees my real intent and points it out, he's the bad guy ??
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:49:50am |
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Donna Ballard Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:49:50am |
Well fellow Lizards and Lizardettes, I have some housework of my own to get done before I role out to the folks house to get theirs done so I'll type at you all later! Have a great day and Keep Laughing! :-)
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:50:58am |
re: #287 avanti
You've confused me. I post that CNN gives a fair and balanced report and cut and pasted the stereotypical negative slant we often see, and the more positive side from the reporter. I than post a link to the entire piece, and you take that as 180 degrees from my intent. When another poster sees my real intent and points it out, he's the bad guy ??
What in your clip and paste was a positive look at the claimed racism at Tea Party meetings?
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:52:32am |
They have trees named after them now?
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:54:08am |
"If she went there by herself and I'm sure she went there by herself as she is not a brainless animal, then it's her and Allah's personal affair. They only know why she has done it and what she wanted," Rasul Magomedov told Moskovsky Komsomolets.
SNIP
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avanti Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:55:06am |
re: #290 Walter L. Newton
What in your clip and paste was a positive look at the claimed racism at Tea Party meetings?
Duh:
"But here's what you don't often see in the coverage of Tea Party rallies: Patriotic signs professing a love for country; mothers and fathers with their children; African-Americans proudly participating; and senior citizens bopping to a hip-hop rapper."
Plus, I included the link that I though showed that the reporter saw more positive sides to the events.
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darthstar Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:55:42am |
re: #262 Mad Al-Jaffee
The plot of Justified last night dealt with a former mob accountant (in hiding from the mob) who became a dentist. The funny part is he was inspired by the elf from Rudolph the Rednosed Reindeer who wanted to be a dentist. ("You mean the little gay dude?" the US Marshal main character asked him)
I'm starting to like that show. It's not uber-violent, the lead character has that Bill Paxton nice-guyness to him, and some of the dialog is pretty funny. I was sad when the dentist/fugitive dude sacrificed himself for his girlfriend...but that's what tragic characters do.
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wrenchwench Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:56:38am |
re: #291 negativ
They have trees named after them now?
OMG, it's for reals.
Not that I would doubt you, of course.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:57:43am |
re: #286 MandyManners
Nuclear weapons are not evil. Terrifying, yes. But their horrific capabilities prevented a Third World War. It all depends on whose finger is on the button.
SNIP
Of course. And we'd all feel better if it were the arthritic middle finger of John "I'm Tired, Sarah, Could You Take This Call?" McCain, wouldn't we?
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darthstar Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:58:05am |
re: #291 negativ
They have trees named after them now?
Appropriately surrounded by daffodils and narcissus.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 7:58:18am |
My radio has had 2 emergency/Amber alerts in the last 20 minutes. Makes me think this isn't a father taking his daughter. They also have a good description of the guy and his car. Although they didn't give a name, makes me wonder if they know who the guy is. Hope the girl is OK.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:00:26am |
re: #293 avanti
Duh:
"But here's what you don't often see in the coverage of Tea Party rallies: Patriotic signs professing a love for country; mothers and fathers with their children; African-Americans proudly participating; and senior citizens bopping to a hip-hop rapper."
Plus, I included the link that I though showed that the reporter saw more positive sides to the events.
Duh... I misread that paragraph... it appears to me that the reporter was saying you don't see these things, I see the qualifier, "coverage" my mistake.
Sorry.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:00:48am |
re: #279 Obdicut
That's nice, Walter.
I misread that paragraph... it appears to me that the reporter was saying you don't see these things, I see the qualifier, "coverage" my mistake.
Sorry.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:01:19am |
re: #294 darthstar
I'm starting to like that show. It's not uber-violent, the lead character has that Bill Paxton nice-guyness to him, and some of the dialog is pretty funny. I was sad when the dentist/fugitive dude sacrificed himself for his girlfriend...but that's what tragic characters do.
I'm enjoying it. I'm a big Elmore Leonard fan, and it's nice to see something on tv based on his works. He's also one of the producers.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:01:43am |
The 6.5-foot (2-metre) -long lizard was first spotted in 2004 in the Sierra Madre mountains on the main island of Luzon when local researchers saw local Agta tribesmen carrying one of the dead reptiles.
SNIP
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:02:07am |
re: #292 MandyManners
That reads like it's been run through Google Translate about 5 times, which it probably has. I wouldn't take any of that at face value, not even the punctuation.
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Varek Raith Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:02:33am |
re: #302 MandyManners
Thar be dragons 'ere!
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:04:07am |
President Hu Jintao addressed officials this week in a keynote speech encouraging them to live clean lives and to be honest citizens while staying alert on the allure of power, money and beautiful women, a transcript seen on Wednesday on the official government Web site said.
SNIP
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windsagio Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:04:30am |
re: #292 MandyManners
man, who would ask that of a parent?
"So yeah, was God thrilled that your kid killed themselves?"
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darthstar Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:06:43am |
re: #307 windsagio
man, who would ask that of a parent?
"So yeah, was God thrilled that your kid killed themselves?"
God's so cool...people are just dying to meet him/her.
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windsagio Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:07:29am |
re: #308 darthstar
[Link: instantrimshot.com...]
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Bubblehead II Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:07:49am |
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Bubblehead II Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:08:39am |
re: #305 darthstar
Well I guess that answers my question then. :-)
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Political Atheist Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:08:39am |
re: #302 MandyManners
They found Lazardo? :)
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:08:55am |
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avanti Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:09:05am |
re: #299 Walter L. Newton
Duh... I misread that paragraph... it appears to me that the reporter was saying you don't see these things, I see the qualifier, "coverage" my mistake.
Sorry.
Well crap, I just thought you were up for a fight :)
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Ericus58 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:09:23am |
re: #247 avanti
But here's what you don't often see in the coverage of Tea Party rallies: Patriotic signs professing a love for country; mothers and fathers with their children; African-Americans proudly participating; and senior citizens bopping to a hip-hop rapper."
The article was very well written and fair. After talking about typical coverage, it really got into meat and potato time.
thanks.
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darthstar Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:11:41am |
re: #310 Bubblehead II
But do they taste like chicken?
When I was a kid, we killed a lot of rattlesnakes. They didn't taste like chicken at all...closer to frog's legs (which I lo-o-o-ooove).
Tried alligator a few times...that's more like monkfish than chicken.
I'm guessing the big lizards are somewhere between snake and gator.
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lawhawk Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:13:33am |
CNN headlines and presents the wikileaked video showing a US chopper assault on suspected terrorists and noted the confusing situation in the headline and lede. Good for them to not jump to conclusions and to evaluate the situation fairly.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:14:23am |
re: #316 darthstar
But, I've heard that frog's legs taste like chicken...
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:14:41am |
re: #315 Ericus58
The article was very well written and fair. After talking about typical coverage, it really got into meat and potato time.
thanks.
It's apparent, since the Tea Parties are racist, that this "tour" is a clever manufactured series of events to show a different but "phony" face of the Tea Party. And it's very apparent this is the truth since this CNN reporter fell for the ruse.
Didn't fool us.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:14:48am |
Rut Roh...
[Link: www.reuters.com...]
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darthstar Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:15:07am |
re: #318 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
But, I've heard that frog's legs taste like chicken...
That frog's legs did...but most don't.
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darthstar Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:16:58am |
re: #318 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
But, I've heard that frog's legs taste like chicken...
I think the 'tastes like chicken' description is basically what people say when they try something very mild...I think it's more of a texture thing. Frog's legs are about the consistency of the meat in between the two small bones in a chicken wing...rubbery.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:17:26am |
December 2007: Bishop of Tenerife blames child abuse on the children
His comments were that there are youngsters who want to be abused, and he compared that abuse to homosexuality, describing them both as prejudicial to society. He said that on occasions the abuse happened because the there are children who consent to it.
‘There are 13 year old adolescents who are under age and who are perfectly in agreement with, and what’s more wanting it, and if you are careless they will even provoke you’, he said.
Read more: [Link: www.typicallyspanish.com...]
The original newspaper cited is [Link: www.laopinion.es...] - but as far as I can tell (which isn't very far) their online archives don't go back that far. So, vomit freely, but sprinkle a cautionary grain of salt on it, just in case.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:18:09am |
re: #322 darthstar
I think the 'tastes like chicken' description is basically what people say when they try something very mild...I think it's more of a texture thing. Frog's legs are about the consistency of the meat in between the two small bones in a chicken wing...rubbery.
That part of the wing is called a "flapper." My gosh I need a life!
/
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:19:24am |
re: #303 negativ
That reads like it's been run through Google Translate about 5 times, which it probably has. I wouldn't take any of that at face value, not even the punctuation.
I'm giving it the 48-hour rule. It probably will be in al-Jazeera or Kavkazcenter.com.
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Stanghazi Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:20:31am |
re: #316 darthstar
When I was a kid, we killed a lot of rattlesnakes. They didn't taste like chicken at all...closer to frog's legs (which I lo-o-o-ooove).
Tried alligator a few times...that's more like monkfish than chicken.
I'm guessing the big lizards are somewhere between snake and gator.
I grew up in FL. Frog's legs from the guy on the side of the road. God they were good. Lemon & butter.
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wrenchwench Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:22:27am |
re: #326 Stanley Sea
Frog's legs from the guy on the side of the road.
Road kill?
/better than the reply to negativ's 323, which I deleted in Preview. You're welcome.
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darthstar Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:22:28am |
re: #324 Cannadian Club Akbar
That part of the wing is called a "flapper." My gosh I need a life!
/
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:22:36am |
re: #320 Cannadian Club Akbar
Didn't they say that last year?
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Bubblehead II Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:23:01am |
re: #316 darthstar
I have had Rattlesnake stew which was good), but none of the others.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:23:32am |
re: #330 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Didn't they say that last year?
There will be another forecast in a couple months.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:23:42am |
My son and his family have left for the airport. The house is so quiet now.
It was a great visit.
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Ericus58 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:23:53am |
re: #319 Walter L. Newton
It's apparent, since the Tea Parties are racist, that this "tour" is a clever manufactured series of events to show a different but "phony" face of the Tea Party. And it's very apparent this is the truth since this CNN reporter fell for the ruse.
Didn't fool us.
Walter, I'm just not seeing that from the report. The majority of the article showed that from the reporters' perspective and personal experiences, he came away with a much different outlook of the majority of Tea party participants - that being they're not racists.
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right_wing2 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:23:54am |
Just as there are, no doubt, a few racists at tea parties, I'd be willing to argue that there are a few racists at events supporting Obama, and the Democrat health care reform plan.
Nobody would argue that groups like the Klan or Aryan Nation aren't racist. But isn't a group like the 'National Council of LaRaza' ('The Race') just as racist, based on their very name? Isn't 'Black Liberation Theology' a racist idea, as espoused by Obama's former pastor? What about the "New Black Panthers", who used intimidation at voting sites to the extent that a Democrat on the Civil Rights Commission decried the Justice Department dropping the case?
If the 'Tea Parties' are racist because of a relative handfull of cases, then people supporting the Health Care bill, signed by President Obama, are just as racist because of the relative handfull of racists on the left.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:24:31am |
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:24:53am |
re: #333 Alouette
My son and his family have left for the airport. The house is so quiet now.
It was a great visit.
How's your foot?
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badger1970 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:25:00am |
re: #330 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Didn't they say that last year?
Bet on the same side of a coin flip enough, it's bound to come up.
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Stanghazi Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:26:40am |
re: #328 wrenchwench
Road kill?
/better than the reply to negativ's 323, which I deleted in Preview. You're welcome.
He was just our local frog catcher!
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Ericus58 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:26:44am |
Tennis great Martina Navratilova has breast cancer
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
I wish her the very best, always loved this Classy lady.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:28:13am |
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:28:37am |
Moskovsky Komsomolets doesn't have an English link.
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lawhawk Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:30:10am |
re: #320 Cannadian Club Akbar
Rut Roh...
[Link: www.reuters.com...]
More people living on coasts and lulled into a sense of complacency because last year was a slow storm year with no major storms coming ashore the US coasts. Places like the Middle Atlantic are overdue for a major storm hit.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:30:11am |
re: #334 Ericus58
Walter, I'm just not seeing that from the report. The majority of the article showed that from the reporters' perspective and personal experiences, he came away with a much different outlook of the majority of Tea party participants - that being they're not racists.
You just don't understand... do you. There are racists associating with the Tea Party, we've seen the hundreds and hundreds of them with signs and chants and all that at these rallies. If this reporter didn't see that level of racism, then it must be because the organizers of this "bus tour" has purposely staged this rally to make it appear that they have nothing to do with the racists.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:30:37am |
re: #338 MandyManners
How's your foot?
I'm seeing the doc on Monday. Having a bunch of people in the house also meant more people to share chores. I tried staying off my feet as much as possible, but that's not always an option.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:32:04am |
re: #345 lawhawk
More people living on coasts and lulled into a sense of complacency because last year was a slow storm year with no major storms coming ashore the US coasts. Places like the Middle Atlantic are overdue for a major storm hit.
You would think people in Florida would be ready for storms. Nope. If one gets close the stores are packed with people getting water, canned goods, etc. Idiots.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:32:30am |
Sitting in a hotel lobby. Price is Right is on.
Bob Barker retired?
Who's the nerdy guy.
Black model is SMOKIN'!
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Varek Raith Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:32:54am |
re: #348 Cannadian Club Akbar
You would think people in Florida would be ready for storms. Nope. If one gets close the stores are packed with people getting water, canned goods, etc. Idiots.
Heh, humans.
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Ericus58 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:32:56am |
re: #346 Walter L. Newton
Walter.... I get it.
I think.
Guess I'm just a linear thinker.
Not so much the double-speak.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:33:17am |
re: #349 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Sitting in a hotel lobby. Price is Right is on.
Bob Barker retired?
Who's the nerdy guy.
Black model is SMOKIN'!
Drew Carrey. He is an actor/comedian.
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right_wing2 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:33:55am |
re: #344 Varek Raith
Simple.
Tea parties are accused of being racist because a handful of supporters are racists. I'd argue the same 'racism' charge could be leveled against groups on the left because of racists like the New Black Panthers and National Council of La Raza.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:34:35am |
re: #351 Ericus58
Walter... I get it.
I think.
Guess I'm just a linear thinker.
Not so much the double-speak.
Thank goodness I was able to explain this to you before it was too late. Careful that you don't fall for these sort of scams, I may not be here the next time to save you.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:34:38am |
I love the Ron White line about hurricanes...
"In a hurricane, the problem is not that the wind is blowing. The problem is what the wind is blowing. You might be able to do a thousand sit-ups, but that ain't gonna help you against a hurtling VOLVO."
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:34:41am |
re: #350 Varek Raith
Heh, humans.
It gets better. People who get canned goods but have an electric can opener. And the power goes out. Heh.
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Varek Raith Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:34:41am |
re: #353 right_wing2
Simple.
Tea parties are accused of being racist because a handful of supporters are racists. I'd argue the same 'racism' charge could be leveled against groups on the left because of racists like the New Black Panthers and National Council of La Raza.
Do check out who organizes these tea parties.
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wrenchwench Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:35:32am |
re: #353 right_wing2
Simple.
Tea parties are accused of being racist because a handful of
supportersorganizers are racists.
FTFY
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Ericus58 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:35:38am |
I purposely stayed away from the previous thread.
The topic and intent was.......... I had a hard time getting my head around it.
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wrenchwench Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:37:46am |
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badger1970 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:39:45am |
On a lighter note, that traitor to the people of cheeseland is now a grandpa, Vikings' Favre now a grandfather
If Brett Favre returns for a 20th NFL season, you can call him "Grandpa" and not be making fun of his age.
Favre's 21-year-old daughter Brittany gave birth to a son Tuesday, making the 40-year-old Minnesota Vikings quarterback a grandfather.
The little gunslinger weighs in at 7 pounds, 7 ounces.
Grandpa Brett says on his Web site that he and wife Deanna are "very proud" to welcome their first grandchild.
Favre was 19 when he and Deanna -- his girlfriend at the time -- had Brittany in 1989. The couple was married in 1996 and had another child, Breleigh, in 1999. (For those who are mathematically challenged)
The NFL says it knows of no other grandfathers among current players.
Favre led the Vikings to the NFC championship game last season and has not yet decided whether or not he intends to return in 2010. He will turn 41 in October.
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right_wing2 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:40:19am |
re: #358 wrenchwench
And a couple of the organizers of left wing protests aren't racist?
I didn't like the spending under Bush & a Republican House/Senate. It was bad then. Now- it's far, far worse. Bush & the Repubs spent like mad, but compared to what we're seeing now, Bush would make Scrooge look like a spendthrift.
When I start running low on money in my account, I stop spending so much. I can't just go to my boss and say 'I need a raise'. The US (and state) governments need to stop blowing so much of our money on handouts to everyone in sight.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:40:34am |
re: #357 Varek Raith
Do check out who organizes these tea parties.
I know... we have about 12 Tea Party groups in a 50 mile radius. I checked up on the organizer of the Tea Party closest to me... Lori Christenson... here is some info about her...
"...Christenson, a former corporate trainer, never thought would have happened in her life."
"So how did a woman who had no prior political experience climb the political ladder so quickly? She became involved in the Tea Party movement. Although Christenson’s prior political involvement stopped after voting, she always felt well informed."
"After the Tax Day Tea Party, which was her first protest, she knew she did not want the momentum to die. She first joined Tea Party groups in Denver but soon found the drive to the meetings too far. Thinking others in the mountain communities felt the same way, she and her husband founded the Evergreen/Conifer Tea Party."
Racist all the way. Right here, in my own community. Fucking scary.
[Link: www.examiner.com...]
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wrenchwench Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:42:24am |
re: #363 right_wing2
And a couple of the organizers of left wing protests aren't racist?
Does that mean there is a quota of racism that must be met?
Why does "they do it too" have any appeal as a response? It's just stupid.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:42:35am |
Over and over again we were assured, apparently without basis, that Russia and China were going to support increased sanctions. With the Obama Administration in office now for 14 months, Moscow and Beijing seem no closer to supporting such a policy than they were when the process began.
Now there is more news. It is April and there are no immediate prospect for sanctions. Indeed, the issue is not even on the agenda for the UN Security Council this month. In May, the rotating presidency goes to Lebanon, a country in which Hizballah, an Iranian client, has a veto power over every decision. The Lebanese government has already declared that it will be supportive of Tehran.
SNIP
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:43:01am |
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Varek Raith Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:43:32am |
re: #364 Walter L. Newton
Nope, she isn't. However the movement is tainted on the national level. Suck, but thems the breaks.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:43:43am |
re: #347 Alouette
I'm seeing the doc on Monday. Having a bunch of people in the house also meant more people to share chores. I tried staying off my feet as much as possible, but that's not always an option.
I'm having a tough time getting The Kid to help out extra. Little ingrate.
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Varek Raith Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:43:53am |
re: #368 Varek Raith
Nope, she isn't. However the movement is tainted on the national level. Sucks, but thems the breaks.
PIMF
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:44:24am |
re: #369 MandyManners
I'm having a tough time getting The Kid to help out extra. Little ingrate.
Does he get an allowance?
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:45:47am |
re: #353 right_wing2
Simple.
Tea parties are accused of being racist because a handful of supporters are racists. I'd argue the same 'racism' charge could be leveled against groups on the left because of racists like the New Black Panthers and National Council of La Raza.
But, but, but, only white people can be racists.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:45:57am |
re: #369 MandyManners
I'm having a tough time getting The Kid to help out extra. Little ingrate.
My daughters-in-law were much more helpful than my daughter.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:46:14am |
re: #368 Varek Raith
Nope, she isn't. However the movement is tainted on the national level. Suck, but thems the breaks.
Nope... all the leadership is either racist or deranged.
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Varek Raith Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:46:42am |
re: #374 Walter L. Newton
Nope... all the leadership is either racist or deranged.
You make my head hurt sometimes.
:)
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:47:05am |
re: #373 Alouette
My daughters-in-law were much more helpful than my daughter.
That doesn't surprise me at all.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:48:30am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:48:40am |
re: #373 Alouette
My daughters-in-law were much more helpful than my daughter.
I help more at my MIL's house than my wife or sister.
That's right. We're better than your kids.
/
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wrenchwench Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:48:46am |
re: #373 Alouette
My daughters-in-law were much more helpful than my daughter.
I just got back from a major family gathering where all the cooking was done by the in-laws. I did dishes all weekend because the in-laws are nicer than the blood relatives, and the sister I was trying to avoid was avoiding the kitchen. The in-laws are also really good cooks.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:48:50am |
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:48:53am |
re: #375 Varek Raith
You make my head hurt sometimes.
:)
Well.. most of the leadership is racist or deranged... not all.
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allegro Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:49:16am |
Although Christenson’s prior political involvement stopped after voting, she always felt well informed. However, last year, she felt something had changed in the country, and she knew she had to do something
Hmmm, what could that have been? I think Walter has her pegged.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:49:17am |
re: #373 Alouette
My daughters-in-law were much more helpful than my daughter.
Grateful for the way you raised your sons?
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Varek Raith Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:49:55am |
re: #381 Walter L. Newton
Well.. most of the leadership is racist or deranged... not all.
It's just, I had a difficult time figuring out where you were coming from.
Sorry.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:50:19am |
re: #382 allegro
Hmmm, what could that have been? I think Walter has her pegged.
Oh, yeah. Dog-whistles.
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right_wing2 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:50:38am |
re: #365 wrenchwench
So apparently everyone has to be as clean as the wind driven snow in order for there to be no racism.
It'll never happen. ANY movement is going to have a few racists attached to it.
Doesn't make it right, but it makes it unwise to paint the whole movement as 'racist' because of a few people.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:50:44am |
re: #382 allegro
Hmmm, what could that have been? I think Walter has her pegged.
Like I said, racist, something changed, Obama elected, it's easy to make the connection.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:51:03am |
re: #384 Varek Raith
It's just, I had a difficult time figuring out where you were coming from.
Sorry.
Makes you wonder, doesn't it.
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lawhawk Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:52:52am |
re: #377 MandyManners
But the Obama Administration has approved the targeting of Awlaki in Yemen, a US citizen.
The Obama administration has taken the extraordinary step of authorizing the targeted killing of an American citizen, the radical Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, who is believed to have shifted from encouraging attacks on the United States to directly participating in them, intelligence and counterterrorism officials said Tuesday.Mr. Awlaki, who was born in New Mexico and spent years in the United States as an imam, is in hiding in Yemen. He has been the focus of intense scrutiny since he was linked to Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the Army psychiatrist accused of killing 13 people at Fort Hood, Tex., in November, and then to Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the Nigerian man charged with trying to blow up a Detroit-bound airliner on Dec. 25.
American counterterrorism officials say Mr. Awlaki is an operative of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, the affiliate of the terror network in Yemen and Saudi Arabia. They say they believe that he has become a recruiter for the terrorist network, feeding prospects into plots aimed at the United States and at Americans abroad, the officials said.
Story continues below ↓advertisement %P% your ad hereIt is extremely rare, if not unprecedented, for an American to be approved for targeted killing, officials said. A former senior legal official in the administration of George W. Bush said he did not know of any American who was approved for targeted killing under the former president.
Only other American who might qualify would be Adam Gadahn, who is wanted for treason in the US as there have been several airstrikes that claimed to have taken out Gadahn in the past couple of years.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:53:17am |
I wonder if there is a vaccine to keep people from breaking up. Bwhahaha!!
[Link: www.people.com...]
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drcordell Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:54:21am |
re: #386 right_wing2
So apparently everyone has to be as clean as the wind driven snow in order for there to be no racism.
It'll never happen. ANY movement is going to have a few racists attached to it.
Doesn't make it right, but it makes it unwise to paint the whole movement as 'racist' because of a few people.
The entire movement is painted as racist because the entire movement is based on white resentment. Have you not figured that out yet?
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Varek Raith Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:54:43am |
re: #388 Walter L. Newton
Makes you wonder, doesn't it.
I'm starting to question my comprehension abilities.
*scratches head*
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:54:57am |
re: #383 MandyManners
Grateful for the way you raised your sons?
I'm happy they all married girls who can kick their ass, if necessary.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:55:29am |
re: #389 lawhawk
Can't they just kill him and then say they did it? Why announce it?
We were talking about this earlier, but I didn't see a valid answer.
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right_wing2 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:56:44am |
re: #391 drcordell
What- people resent keeping money they've earned instead of turning over to the government?
How dare we.
I'd bet the majority of 'Tea Partiers' would support a conservative candidate regardless of their race. JC Watts, Ken Blackwell, Star Parker or Herman Caine leap to mind.
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badger1970 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:56:47am |
re: #390 Cannadian Club Akbar
Funny (for the McCarthy reference and her delusions) but then again, it'll put People, US, and other tabloids out of business.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:57:05am |
re: #394 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Can't they just kill him and then say they did it? Why announce it?
First they have to promise they won't use nuclear weapons on him if he attacks us.
/
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:58:07am |
re: #396 badger1970
Funny (for the McCarthy reference and her delusions) but then again, it'll put People, US, and other tabloids out of business.
Weird how these stories piggy back each other.
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
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drcordell Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:59:43am |
re: #395 right_wing2
What- people resent keeping money they've earned instead of turning over to the government?
How dare we.
I'd bet the majority of 'Tea Partiers' would support a conservative candidate regardless of their race. JC Watts, Ken Blackwell, Star Parker or Herman Caine leap to mind.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. Yes, you are completely right. The tea partiers are just itching to support a black candidate.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:00:30am |
War court critics denounced the decision to go ahead with hearings this week, saying that without new rules the Obama administration has yet to complete, the commissions are operating with uncertain procedures.
"It's really like a lame-duck commission," bristled Mike Berrigan, the Pentagon's deputy chief Guantanamo defense counsel.
First up on the war court's agenda is a pretrial hearing in the case of Noor Uthman Mohammed, a Sudanese man who was captured in Pakistan in 2002 and brought here soon after for interrogation as a suspected al-Qaida operative.
U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder approved Mohammed's military trial in November on charges of conspiracy and providing material support for terrorism for allegedly helping to run the Khalden terror training camp in Afghanistan.
At that same time, Holder approved civilian trials for the alleged plotters of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks -- and this week's hearings also are a reminder that the Justice Department remains undecided on how to proceed with the case of Khalid Sheik Mohammed and his four accused co-conspirators.
SNIP
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jamesfirecat Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:00:43am |
re: #395 right_wing2
What- people resent keeping money they've earned instead of turning over to the government?
How dare we.
I'd bet the majority of 'Tea Partiers' would support a conservative candidate regardless of their race. JC Watts, Ken Blackwell, Star Parker or Herman Caine leap to mind.
Funnily enough I bet the majority of "Tea Parties" would vote republican also!
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badger1970 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:01:58am |
re: #401 jamesfirecat
Funnily enough I bet the majority of "Tea Parties" would vote republican also!
Or Constitutionalists (whatever they are). //
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drcordell Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:02:10am |
re: #395 right_wing2
What- people resent keeping money they've earned instead of turning over to the government?
How dare we.
I'd bet the majority of 'Tea Partiers' would support a conservative candidate regardless of their race. JC Watts, Ken Blackwell, Star Parker or Herman Caine leap to mind.
Also, I might add that based on the Demographic data I've seen, teabaggers are rather likely to have received a tax break from Obama. I somehow doubt that the multi-millionaires whose taxes will go up when the Bush tax cuts expire are lining up on the Capitol Lawn, screaming their lungs out holding mis-spelled signs.
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right_wing2 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:03:02am |
re: #401 jamesfirecat
Some 40% of Tea Partiers are independent or Dem, according to a survey.
Wouldn't surprise me that the majority of Tea Partiers are Republican though, since Repubs tend to favor smaller government and lower taxes.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:03:09am |
re: #403 drcordell
Also, I might add that based on the Demographic data I've seen, teabaggers are rather likely to have received a tax break from Obama. I somehow doubt that the multi-millionaires whose taxes will go up when the Bush tax cuts expire are lining up on the Capitol Lawn, screaming their lungs out holding mis-spelled signs.
Of course not, they have butlers for that.
"I say Jeeves would you go out and wave this placard about for me? There's a good chap!"
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:03:48am |
re: #389 lawhawk
But the Obama Administration has approved the targeting of Awlaki in Yemen, a US citizen.
Only other American who might qualify would be Adam Gadahn, who is wanted for treason in the US as there have been several airstrikes that claimed to have taken out Gadahn in the past couple of years.
As I asked above, this list is secret. Why is the administration giving out this information? To what end?
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badger1970 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:04:11am |
re: #403 drcordell
Funny you should mention that. I actually got a tax refund this year as opposed to last year (pretty much no status change).
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allegro Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:04:20am |
re: #403 drcordell
Also, I might add that based on the Demographic data I've seen, teabaggers are rather likely to have received a tax break from Obama. I somehow doubt that the multi-millionaires whose taxes will go up when the Bush tax cuts expire are lining up on the Capitol Lawn, screaming their lungs out holding mis-spelled signs.
Also interesting how many of those who have screamed the loudest are receiving social security or disability and are on medicare.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:04:25am |
re: #393 Alouette
I'm happy they all married girls who can kick their ass, if necessary.
Married gals like the one that Dad married!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:04:27am |
re: #399 drcordell
I just want a good conservative candidate.
I honestly don't care if he/she is the color of a baboon's ass.
(paraphrasing Navin Johnson's mother)
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drcordell Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:04:59am |
re: #406 MandyManners
As I asked above, this list is secret. Why is the administration giving out this information? To what end?
Clearly Obama has released it so that his Muslim terrorist friends can more easily plot the destruction of the U.S. and our way of life. Somebody hasn't been reading their World Net Daily!
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jamesfirecat Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:05:20am |
re: #404 right_wing2
Some 40% of Tea Partiers are independent or Dem, according to a survey.
Wouldn't surprise me that the majority of Tea Partiers are Republican though, since Repubs tend to favor smaller government and lower taxes.
Umm....
You need to realize that independents are not a solid voting block.
How many independents are there who just can't stand call themselves Republicans anymore after the shallacking that particular brand name took recently?
Let me show you another way of looking at those numbers...
[Link: www.washingtonmonthly.com...]
See what I mean?
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:05:25am |
re: #405 jamesfirecat
Of course not, they have butlers for that.
"I say Jeeves would you go out and wave this placard about for me? There's a good chap!"
Would the butlers job be considered created or saved?
///
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:06:02am |
re: #411 drcordell
Doc? I think it's a fair question. I'm not slapping them around on this, just want to understand the reasoning.
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right_wing2 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:06:53am |
re: #403 drcordell
I'm middle class, and I'm betting that my taxes, direct & indirect, will go up under the Obama administration. I'd bet you $20 my health insurance premiums will go up next year, if I'm even offered coverage through my employer and if I can even get the kind of coverage (health savings account) that I have now.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:07:20am |
re: #407 badger1970
I'm getting a large refund because I allowed them to with-hold too much.
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drcordell Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:07:44am |
re: #404 right_wing2
Some 40% of Tea Partiers are independent or Dem, according to a survey.
Wouldn't surprise me that the majority of Tea Partiers are Republican though, since Repubs tend to favor smaller government and lower taxes.
Yes. Republicans favor smaller Government. Just look at how many government jobs were slashed under Bush. Oh... wait...
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jamesfirecat Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:08:09am |
re: #416 right_wing2
I'm middle class, and I'm betting that my taxes, direct & indirect, will go up under the Obama administration. I'd bet you $20 my health insurance premiums will go up next year, if I'm even offered coverage through my employer and if I can even get the kind of coverage (health savings account) that I have now.
Middle class is a pretty vague number how much do you make a year? As I understood it your taxes only go up if you're the kind of "middle class" that makes 250K a year or more....
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right_wing2 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:08:24am |
re: #418 drcordell
Ok, CONSERVATIVES favor smaller government. Bush was no conservative.
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Varek Raith Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:09:09am |
re: #420 right_wing2
And Jimmah isn't a Scotsman.
;)
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badger1970 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:09:35am |
re: #420 right_wing2
Ok, CONSERVATIVES favor smaller government. Bush was no conservative.
But, boy was he compassionate (and yes I wasn't a big fan of is fiscal policies).
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jamesfirecat Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:10:02am |
re: #418 drcordell
Yes. Republicans favor smaller Government. Just look at how many government jobs were slashed under Bush. Oh... wait...
Don't forget how much less intrusive government is under Republicans what with how it it is determining who can and can't get married and their desire to make it so that the government can control who can and can't has a paracytic organism removed from their bodies! Oh wait......
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Varek Raith Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:10:30am |
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drcordell Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:10:35am |
re: #416 right_wing2
I'm middle class, and I'm betting that my taxes, direct & indirect, will go up under the Obama administration. I'd bet you $20 my health insurance premiums will go up next year, if I'm even offered coverage through my employer and if I can even get the kind of coverage (health savings account) that I have now.
Wow. You're betting that your taxes are going to go up. That sounds like irrefutable logic to me!
And yes, I can guarantee you that your insurance premiums are going to go up next year. Except that's a private company that is making that decision. And those premiums have been going up 18% a year since 2000. But you were against Healthcare reform I'm sure.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:10:45am |
re: #420 right_wing2
Ok, CONSERVATIVES favor smaller government. Bush was no conservative.
Bring out the bag pipes lads and lassies its time for Scotchtoberfest, only true scotsman need apply of course!
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Political Atheist Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:10:51am |
A California politics update, well done by the LA Times
[Link: www.latimes.com...]
Meg Whitman's deep pockets put her ahead of Jerry Brown
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drcordell Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:11:04am |
re: #428 jamesfirecat
Bring out the bag pipes lads and lassies its time for Scotchtoberfest, only true scotsman need apply of course!
Hahahahahahaha
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:11:37am |
re: #422 badger1970
But, boy was he compassionate (and yes I wasn't a big fan of is fiscal policies).
I love what he did for Africa. Absolutely love it, even though we couldn't afford it.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:12:09am |
re: #427 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
HEY!! I posted that earlier. You're like the guy who shows up when the job is done and takes all the credit!!
///
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jamesfirecat Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:12:50am |
re: #420 right_wing2
Ok, CONSERVATIVES favor smaller government. Bush was no conservative.
Also if Bush was no conservative, then who voted him into office twice? It sure as hell wasn't use east/west coast liberals.....
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Varek Raith Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:13:05am |
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lawhawk Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:14:34am |
re: #434 jamesfirecat
It was the evil of two lessers - the situation that many voters have to deal with in every election.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:15:45am |
re: #434 jamesfirecat
Also if Bush was no conservative, then who voted him into office twice? It sure as hell wasn't use east/west coast liberals...
According to Michael Moore, people in "Jesusland" voted for him. Heh.
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Varek Raith Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:16:01am |
re: #437 lawhawk
It was the evil of two lessers - the situation that many voters have to deal with in every election.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:16:11am |
Flake Alert!
Martina Caviezel, a self-proclaimed pantheist, sought a preliminary injunction allowing her to enroll her 4-year-old daughter in a Great Neck, N.Y., pre-kindergarten without getting the shots the state says the child needs. Caviezel relied on Public Health Law §2164(9), which exempts children from the requirement whose parents or guardians "hold genuine and sincere religious beliefs which are contrary" to vaccination.
On Monday, in Caviezel v. Great Neck Public Schools, 10-civ-052, Eastern District Judge Arthur D. Spatt denied the injunction, ruling that Caviezel had not established that she held "genuine and sincere religious beliefs which prohibit vaccinations."
Around September 2009, Caviezel submitted a form requesting that her youngest child, C.C., be exempt from the requirement that children be vaccinated against measles, mumps, rubella and other conditions. But, according to the decision, the school principal, Debbie Shalom, told her that her request would likely be denied.
Caviezel, a native of Switzerland, declined to meet with school superintendent Thomas Dolan because "people twist words around sometimes." She sued after her request was denied, alleging civil rights violations.
SNIP
Caviezel was ordained as a minister after taking a one-day seminar at a Buffalo, N.Y., church called "Sanctuary of the Beloved." She said she was not a member of any formal religious organization but described her religion as seeing "God in everything…in the flowers in the spring when the flowers bloom, in the miracle of birthing."
She said she practiced her religion "mostly" by breathing, because by breathing, "I can be present to the presence of God." She also testified that she expressed her beliefs through "gratitude" -- by being thankful throughout the day.
Caviezel admitted that the church where she was ordained had not said anything about immunizing her children during the course she took there.
She also acknowledged that she had read articles about the possible link between vaccinations and autism but had not decided if the claim had any scientific basis.
"One day I read an article about, yes, you should immunize; and then the next day I read an article about, no, you shouldn't immunize," she told the court. "Ultimately, all I can go back to is if I believe in that we are divine in our design, immunizations are not necessary."
SNIP
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jamesfirecat Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:16:26am |
re: #437 lawhawk
It was the evil of two lessers - the situation that many voters have to deal with in every election.
What about the primaries which lead to him becoming the GOP's candidate?
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Altermite Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:17:15am |
I think that conservatism just doesn't mean fiscally responsible anymore to most of the electorate. The term has more or less been jacked by the other movements recruited into the GOP.
Its sort of like the term 'stained glass', which originally had little to do with little panes of brightly colored glass fitted into a copper-lead frame. But thats what it means now.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:17:16am |
re: #437 lawhawk
Somewhere out there, there are a hundred capable men or women who would be great Public Servants, but will never put their families through what families are put through.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:18:58am |
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:20:02am |
re: #443 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Heh. I'm not saying that I would make a great public servant, but there is absolutely no way whatsoever that I would put my family through the kind of scrutiny that goes with the job.
It's tricky: We need to closely examine public servants, but so much of the 'examination' we do these days is on utterly trivial things.
I still cannot believe the whole 'flag pin' idiocy.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:20:34am |
Yaron Unger was murdered along with his pregnant wife in Israel in 1996. His survivors and the administrators of his estate claimed that members of Hamas carried out the attack on the orders of the Palestine Liberation Organization and the Palestinian Authority.
The plaintiffs won a $116.4 million declaratory judgment in 2006. This resulted in the freezing of $100 million from a pair of Palestinian pension funds.
SNIP
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Randall Gross Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:20:45am |
re: #444 Killgore Trout
No surprise here...
Man Charged With Death Threats Apparently Attended Tea Party Protest Targeting Murray
Nope, check Crooks and liars for one of the threats at that rally or another over the weekend.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:20:50am |
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:21:02am |
re: #444 Killgore Trout
Did he attend the one where the Tea Party speaker advocating hanging Murray?
[Link: seattletimes.nwsource.com...]
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badger1970 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:22:32am |
re: #451 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Read that earlier; I'm still waiting for my free siding. //
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Randall Gross Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:22:33am |
Charles:
Can we could get a spinoff category for the Lizard Foodies? "Cooking" "Cuisine" "Foodie News" or something?
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Varek Raith Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:23:05am |
re: #452 badger1970
Read that earlier; I'm still waiting for my free siding. //
WHERE'S MY TOASTER!11!1
People are dumb.
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Randall Gross Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:23:21am |
arggggg MT'ing again.... can we get a spinoff category?
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:24:15am |
re: #452 badger1970
I'm still waiting for my Guinness beer towel.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:24:25am |
re: #455 Thanos
arggg MT'ing again... can we get a spinoff category?
FWIW, I didn't even notice 'til you said something.:)
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:24:47am |
re: #454 Varek Raith
WHERE'S MY
TOASTERUNICORN!11!1
People are dumb.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:26:07am |
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Varek Raith Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:26:10am |
re: #458 Mad Al-Jaffee
Heh, someone on this forum promised me a toaster when my karma surpassed 1000.
SO, WHY DON'T I HAVE IT YET!!11!!1
XD
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:26:11am |
re: #453 Thanos
Charles:
Can we could get a spinoff category for the Lizard Foodies? "Cooking" "Cuisine" "Foodie News" or something?
As much as I love to cook and eat, I can't stand the word "foodie." It just bugs me.
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Varek Raith Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:26:58am |
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darthstar Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:29:04am |
re: #367 Alouette
Obama bans the words "Islam" and "jihad" from U.S. national security document.
This is a good thing. By not using the language of holy war, it takes away some of the argument that holy warriors use for recruiting new members.
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:29:10am |
re: #459 MandyManners
That's how the SLPC got the KKK-- hitting their funding.
Of course, I think that Hamas has larger sources of funding-- like Saudi Arabia, who are our allies.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
And of course, I bet Hamas simply uses PA funds to pay for this, if the judgement goes against them.
I'm glad they're being sued, though.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:30:33am |
re: #460 Varek Raith
Heh, someone on this forum promised me a toaster when my karma surpassed 1000.
SO, WHY DON'T I HAVE IT YET!!11!!1
XD
When I was a kid I once met a friend of my father's (someone he either knew from the Navy or Dept. of Justice, I'm not sure.) Big, friendly Texas guy, who I later learned was also a badass special forces guy and Vietnam vet.
He told me that he hunted rattlesnakes, and he was going to send me a homemade rattlesnake belt. Never got it. If I ever snap and go on some kind of shooting spree, I'm going to blame it on never getting that rattlesnake belt.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:30:39am |
re: #467 Obdicut
That's how the SLPC got the KKK-- hitting their funding.
Of course, I think that Hamas has larger sources of funding-- like Saudi Arabia, who are our allies.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
And of course, I bet Hamas simply uses PA funds to pay for this, if the judgement goes against them.
I'm glad they're being sued, though.
Yes even vicious bloody thirsty terrorists quake at the thought of.... LAWYERS!
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:31:16am |
re: #467 Obdicut
That's how the SLPC got the KKK-- hitting their funding.
Of course, I think that Hamas has larger sources of funding-- like Saudi Arabia, who are our allies.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
And of course, I bet Hamas simply uses PA funds to pay for this, if the judgement goes against them.
I'm glad they're being sued, though.
Don't forget that bastard Tom Metzger.
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Randall Gross Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:31:39am |
re: #461 Mad Al-Jaffee
I'm not fond of it either, but it's the word used most nowadays as descriptive of food connoisseurs.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:31:55am |
re: #467 Obdicut
That's how the SLPC got the KKK-- hitting their funding.
Of course, I think that Hamas has larger sources of funding-- like Saudi Arabia, who are our allies.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
And of course, I bet Hamas simply uses PA funds to pay for this, if the judgement goes against them.
I'm glad they're being sued, though.
Some of the PA funds were frozen. They'll use that.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:32:17am |
re: #467 Obdicut
Saudi Arabia also is funding the spread of Wahabism in Eatern Europe.
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:34:43am |
re: #471 MandyManners
Back when I worked as a transcriptionist, I transcribed an interview with Metzger.
He's in love with himself, and is a coward who prefers to incite others to action than do anything himself.
Note that the comment supporting Metzger, and blatantly supporting racism, has more support than the comment attacking him.
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lawhawk Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:35:10am |
Say hello to Sharpe James, D-NJ, who is given a hero's welcome upon his return to Newark NJ after a 1-year stay in federal prison for selling real estate to his girlfriend for $60k and who then turned around and sold it for $600k. Nice that a convicted felon who did nothing for Newark is given a hero's welcome.
His successor - Cory Booker promised to get crime under control - and has been successful in that endeavor, and Newark saw its first murder-free month in decades. That's something that James was never able to do.
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darthstar Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:35:12am |
Well, that explains EVERYTHING...Slavery just isn't 'signficant' enough to mention:
McDonnell said he did not include a reference to slavery because "there were any number of aspects to that conflict between the states. Obviously, it involved slavery. It involved other issues. But I focused on the ones I thought were most significant for Virginia."
Is McDonnell fucked in the head or what?
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darthstar Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:36:01am |
re: #476 lawhawk
Say hello to Sharpe James, D-NJ, who is given a hero's welcome upon his return to Newark NJ after a 1-year stay in federal prison for selling real estate to his girlfriend for $60k and who then turned around and sold it for $600k. Nice that a convicted felon who did nothing for Newark is given a hero's welcome.
His successor - Cory Booker promised to get crime under control - and has been successful in that endeavor, and Newark saw its first murder-free month in decades. That's something that James was never able to do.
I'd pay 60k for 600k in real estate if someone offered it to me.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:36:42am |
re: #477 darthstar
Well, that explains EVERYTHING...Slavery just isn't 'signficant' enough to mention:
McDonnell said he did not include a reference to slavery because "there were any number of aspects to that conflict between the states. Obviously, it involved slavery. It involved other issues. But I focused on the ones I thought were most significant for Virginia."Is McDonnell fucked in the head or what?
Well you know its not like it was the DEEP SOUTH or anything....
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:37:47am |
re: #479 jamesfirecat
Well you know its not like it was the DEEP SOUTH or anything...
What is the DEEP SOUTH?
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darthstar Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:37:50am |
re: #478 darthstar
I'd pay 60k for 600k in real estate if someone offered it to me.
re: #476 lawhawk
Oh...you didn't mention it was CITY PROPERTY he sold for 46,000 to his girlfriend...that's a different story.
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:38:51am |
re: #474 MandyManners
Saudi Arabia also is funding the spread of Wahabism in Eatern Europe.
Saudi Arabia is funding lots of bad shit, from terrorism to legal challenges to the rights of women in other Arab countries, to AGW denial. They're a completely corrupt state that has probably been responsible for the funding of more terrorism than any other.
[Link: www.usnews.com...]
[Link: articles.latimes.com...]
This is a great book on Saudi Arabia's support for Wahabism:
[Link: www.amazon.com...]
If we in the US talked about Saudi Arabia's problems a quarter as often as we talk about Iran, I'd be much happier.
And they're our allies.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:39:42am |
Fences? We don't need no steenking fences.
The report, obtained by the Washington Examiner, said that 23 Somalis who entered Mexico illegally earlier in the year were caught there, then released in late January.
Only 16 of the 23 people were identified by both Mexican and U.S. law enforcement officials, while the "other 7 are unknown," the report says.
Included in the group is Mohamed Osman Noor, 35, of Somalia, who U.S. officials suspect has strong ties to Al-Shabaab Mujahideen, an Islamist insurgency group in the ongoing war in Somalia with ties to al Qaeda.
SNIP
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:40:13am |
re: #475 Obdicut
Back when I worked as a transcriptionist, I transcribed an interview with Metzger.
He's in love with himself, and is a coward who prefers to incite others to action than do anything himself.
[Video]
Note that the comment supporting Metzger, and blatantly supporting racism, has more support than the comment attacking him.
Malevolent narcissism?
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Cato the Elder Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:40:44am |
There is no racism in America. The Civil War was fought for independence against Northern aggression, and the wrong side won. People who whine about "racism" are only trying to get over on Whitey and get by without working. And have their sons marry your lily-white daughters.
--Governor of Virginia
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:40:51am |
re: #483 MandyManners
Fences? We don't need no stinking fences.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:40:57am |
re: #476 lawhawk
Say hello to Sharpe James, D-NJ, who is given a hero's welcome upon his return to Newark NJ after a 1-year stay in federal prison for selling real estate to his girlfriend for $60k and who then turned around and sold it for $600k. Nice that a convicted felon who did nothing for Newark is given a hero's welcome.
His successor - Cory Booker promised to get crime under control - and has been successful in that endeavor, and Newark saw its first murder-free month in decades. That's something that James was never able to do.
Fox had Booker on this week. What a stand-up man!
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:41:17am |
re: #365 wrenchwench
Does that mean there is a quota of racism that must be met?
Why does "they do it too" have any appeal as a response? It's just stupid.
Stupid, and unproductive, and pointless and meaningless.
All at the same time.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:41:44am |
Wow, the wingnuts are really spewing rage and insults at me this morning.
Seven hate mails so far.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:41:44am |
re: #479 jamesfirecat
Well you know its not like it was the DEEP SOUTH or anything...
Deep South refers to Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia and Louisiana, NOT Virginia.
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Randall Gross Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:43:17am |
re: #489 Charles
Wow, the wingnuts are really spewing rage and insults at me this morning.
Seven hate mails so far.
You hit home with the anti-miscegnation populist rally pic...
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:43:25am |
re: #490 MandyManners
Deep South refers to Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia and Louisiana, NOT Virginia.
What I find funny is the fact that Florida is "deeper South" then all those, yet we are never mentioned.:)
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Stanghazi Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:43:58am |
re: #485 Cato the Elder
There is no racism in America. The Civil War was fought for independence against Northern aggression, and the wrong side won. People who whine about "racism" are only trying to get over on Whitey and get by without working. And have their sons marry your lily-white daughters.
--Governor of Virginia
Really? Really? omg
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jamesfirecat Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:44:02am |
re: #490 MandyManners
Deep South refers to Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia and Louisiana, NOT Virginia.
Exactly my point< Virginia wasn't the "Deep South" thus why the guy probably feels that slavery wasn't an issue for them to be a part of the civil war.
At least I figure that's how he might see it having come to the conclusion after banging my head on a wall for a bit....
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Charles Johnson Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:45:10am |
re: #365 wrenchwench
Does that mean there is a quota of racism that must be met?
Why does "they do it too" have any appeal as a response? It's just stupid.
It's pathetic, isn't it? They do it every single time, as if all the other examples that came before never even happened.
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windsagio Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:45:12am |
re: #493 Cannadian Club Akbar
Florida is it's own unique beast, you've gotta admit. Pretty much totally different than say AL or LA (or VA).
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:45:45am |
re: #482 Obdicut
Things are changing in Saudi Arabia for women but, they're changing very slowly.
“What was published recently in some newspapers caused a lot of harm to the society and to the reputation of the members of the FWPS’ board of directors,” said Samira Khaled Al-Ghamdi, a member of the FWPS’ board, adding that the accusations are false.
SNIP
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:46:33am |
re: #486 Cannadian Club Akbar
Fences? We don't need no stinking fences.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Either take the bribe or die?
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darthstar Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:47:15am |
re: #490 MandyManners
Deep South refers to Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia and Louisiana, NOT Virginia.
Georgia (462,000)
Mississippi (437,000)
Alabama (435,000)
South Carolina (402,000)
Louisiana (331,000)
Virginia's slave population by 1860 - 490,000
Yeah...they were a minor player.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:48:16am |
re: #493 Cannadian Club Akbar
What I find funny is the fact that Florida is "deeper South" then all those, yet we are never mentioned.:)
I've never understood that.
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:48:46am |
re: #498 MandyManners
And that change can be reversed at any moment.
Bluntly, I have no faith whatsoever that the ruling elite in Saudi Arabia has a fig's worth of concern for their citizens. I think they make a devil's deal with extremism, pretending to confront it at home but simply 'confronting' the most disorganized and idiotic extremists, while still actively funding terrorism and Wahabism.
I do not see permanent positive change occurring in Saudi Arabia while the House of Saud rules.
It is a seriously beam in the US's eye in the fight against terror, to have a state that sponsors terror as an ally.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:49:00am |
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:49:12am |
re: #495 jamesfirecat
Exactly my point< Virginia wasn't the "Deep South" thus why the guy probably feels that slavery wasn't an issue for them to be a part of the civil war.
At least I figure that's how he might see it having come to the conclusion after banging my head on a wall for a bit...
How any self-respecting human being can deny slavery was a leading issue is beyond me.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:49:48am |
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:49:56am |
re: #500 darthstar
Georgia (462,000)
Mississippi (437,000)
Alabama (435,000)
South Carolina (402,000)
Louisiana (331,000)
Virginia's slave population by 1860 - 490,000
Yeah...they were a minor player.
Where did I say Virginia was not a major player? Please, show me.
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windsagio Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:50:00am |
re: #503 Mad Al-Jaffee
Also too many Cubans/Peurto Ricans.
The Panhandle is more like the normal 'deep south', Miami certainly isn't
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:50:50am |
re: #502 Obdicut
And that change can be reversed at any moment.
Bluntly, I have no faith whatsoever that the ruling elite in Saudi Arabia has a fig's worth of concern for their citizens. I think they make a devil's deal with extremism, pretending to confront it at home but simply 'confronting' the most disorganized and idiotic extremists, while still actively funding terrorism and Wahabism.
I do not see permanent positive change occurring in Saudi Arabia while the House of Saud rules.
It is a seriously beam in the US's eye in the fight against terror, to have a state that sponsors terror as an ally.
A phrase I picked up around here describes it for me: oil ticks.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:51:06am |
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:51:09am |
re: #507 windsagio
Also too many Cubans/Peurto Ricans.
The Panhandle is more like the normal 'deep south', Miami certainly isn't
The Panhandle is definitely redneck.
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Slap Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:51:22am |
re: #489 Charles
On the head is right, Charles. I wish I could remember where I saw it, but a while back a TV program ran an interview circa '62-ish with a spokesman for the american nazi party -- don't think it was rockwell, but could have been -- and my blood ran cold, because the list of "political philosophies" he calmly ennumerated were, word for word, the language being used by the "reactionary conservative", fundie-friendly side of things.
The parallels are, I'm afraid, FAR more extensive than we're seeing here.
We have such short memories.
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darthstar Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:51:25am |
re: #506 MandyManners
Where did I say Virginia was not a major player? Please, show me.
True...you said they weren't 'deep south'...Obviously, you were thinking in simple geographical terms, and not cultural ones...
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:51:42am |
re: #504 MandyManners
I found the part in the proclamation honoring the leaders, soldiers, and citizens-- categories that blacks could not be during the Confederacy-- to be mind-bogglingly foul. It's denial in the extreme, signed with the governor's pen.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:51:51am |
re: #509 MandyManners
Snow birds!
No. Snow birds only come down for the winter. They eventually go home.:)
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:52:33am |
re: #512 darthstar
True...you said they weren't 'deep south'...Obviously, you were thinking in simple geographical terms, and not cultural ones...
There was a difference in the cultures between the Deep South and the Border States but, slavery was slavery no matter where it existed.
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:53:08am |
re: #512 darthstar
True...you said they weren't 'deep south'...Obviously, you were thinking in simple geographical terms, and not cultural ones...
Virginia is not, and was not, the deep south. That's what makes McDonnell's move so disturbing.
Mandy was using the phrase correctly. It has nothing to do with numbers of slaves.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:53:31am |
re: #513 Obdicut
I found the part in the proclamation honoring the leaders, soldiers, and citizens-- categories that blacks could not be during the Confederacy-- to be mind-bogglingly foul. It's denial in the extreme, signed with the governor's pen.
Were there no black soldiers in Virginia during the war? Are you sure about that?
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:53:59am |
re: #514 Cannadian Club Akbar
No. Snow birds only come down for the winter. They eventually go home.:)
Ah, yes. The Damn Yankees!
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windsagio Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:55:20am |
re: #517 MandyManners
There were, but they were in the Union >>
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:55:37am |
re: #517 MandyManners
Yes. There were not black regular soldiers during the war. Charles referenced a good link about this myth.
There was, in desperation, in the end, an attempt to recruit a battalion that never actually served, but they were still not regular soldiers.
There were, of course, slaves in the Southern Army, as well. Pointing to them as evidence as blacks serving in the Southern Army makes very little sense, given that, you know, they were slaves.
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:56:03am |
re: #521 Obdicut
Not black regular soldiers during the war fighting for the Confederacy, I should note. There were for the Union.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:56:31am |
McDonnell's address if you'd like to write him a letter.
[Link: www.governor.virginia.gov...]
Be nice.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:56:49am |
Israel celebrates LGBT culture in Bay Area
The Consulate General of Israel has joined forces with a variety of Bay Area organizations to present a monthlong series of events celebrating lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender arts and culture.
Out in Israel continues through April 29 with films, dance performance, theater, lectures, panel discussions, music and a weekend retreat for LGBT Jews, their partners and friends.
According to a consulate spokesman, this is the first time that another country has sponsored an LGBT cultural event in the United States.
It'll be interesting to see if the Christian Conservatives will show up in solidarity.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:57:10am |
re: #517 MandyManners
Were there no black soldiers in Virginia during the war? Are you sure about that?
There were NO black soldiers fighting for the Confederacy in the Civil War.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:57:26am |
I gotta' ice my foot down before I haul my butt to the DMV to get my plate tags renewed.
| 527 |
Obdicut Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:58:50am |
re: #524 Killgore Trout
Heh. There are so many aspects of Israel's domestic policy that are so opposed to many of their 'conservative' supporters in the US, especially of the religious variety.
It is kind of funny watching people who hate socialized medicine and gays serving in the military speak so loudly in support of Israel.
| 528 |
Bubblehead II Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:59:19am |
China has been caught with its hand in the cookie jar, again.
Researchers Trace Data Theft to Intruders in China
"TORONTO — Turning the tables on a China-based computer espionage gang, Canadian and United States computer security researchers have monitored a spying operation for the past eight months, observing while the intruders pilfered classified and restricted documents from the highest levels of the Indian Defense Ministry."
"Late Tuesday, Beijing strongly denied any government role in the cyber attacks calling them "groundless,"
Wink, Wink, Nudge, Nudge
| 529 |
King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 9:59:24am |
I ask this because I don't know. When they do Civil War reenactments, which battles do they do and who was the winner of said battles?
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windsagio Wed, Apr 7, 2010 10:01:06am |
re: #524 Killgore Trout
Interesting story that that made me think of:
Animal rights activists vs. Traditional E. European Jewish Dress. (well, hats anyways).
Fascinating culture clash.
(And sorry if this got posted, didn't see it)
| 531 |
badger1970 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 10:01:11am |
re: #529 Cannadian Club Akbar
Depends if the battle is named after the city or the river it was near. Only half kidding.
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windsagio Wed, Apr 7, 2010 10:01:54am |
re: #529 Cannadian Club Akbar
Its generally the closest one really, I don't follow it closely enough to know if they change outcomes, but I really really doubt it :P
| 533 |
windsagio Wed, Apr 7, 2010 10:03:20am |
re: #530 windsagio
I'm not (culturally) Jewish, so its really hard for me to understand how strong a claim 'we wore this in Poland in the 16th Century' really should be.
Altho actually, I'm on their side anyways, 'cuz I think anti-fur people are silly.
/still, any input on my first thought there would be way interesting :D
| 534 |
subsailor68 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 10:03:20am |
re: #529 Cannadian Club Akbar
I ask this because I don't know. When they do Civil War reenactments, which battles do they do and who was the winner of said battles?
Here's a site with some links to re-enactor groups and events.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 10:07:17am |
re: #534 subsailor68
Here's a site with some links to re-enactor groups and events.
Years ago I worked with a guy who did this stuff. His group were extras in a movie. (can't remember which one) But he said he actually had a line in it. Can't verify this though.
| 536 |
albusteve Wed, Apr 7, 2010 10:08:09am |
I fought in the Civil War...between myself and my second wife
1981-4
I lost
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Wed, Apr 7, 2010 10:09:40am |
re: #536 albusteve
I fought in the Civil War...between myself and my second wife
1981-4
I lost
Me betting it wasn't actually "civil". :)
| 538 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 7, 2010 10:11:25am |
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subsailor68 Wed, Apr 7, 2010 10:11:57am |
re: #535 Cannadian Club Akbar
Years ago I worked with a guy who did this stuff. His group were extras in a movie. (can't remember which one) But he said he actually had a line in it. Can't verify this though.
Heh, a number of friends here in town got to be extras in the latest version of The Alamo (the one with Billy Bob Thornton). They had a ball until they had to cross the San Jacinto river - over and over and over again. Wet, cold, and miserable.
| 540 |
drcordell Wed, Apr 7, 2010 10:12:09am |
OT: Glenn Beck turns on Mitt Romney, calls him a "socialist" just like Obama.
And yes, I know its a DailyKosTV link but I couldn't find the video anywhere else.
[Link: www.dailykos.com...]
And as an aside, can anyone explain to me how forcing every American to purchase a product from private corporate health insurers is socialism?
| 541 |
MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 10:15:10am |
Something was nibbling at the back of my brain a few minutes ago.
The recruitment effort did bear fruit in Richmond where Majors James W. Pegram and Thomas P. Turner put together a "Negro Brigade" of Confederate States Colored Troops. The Richmond Daily Examiner noted of the unit "the knowledge of the military art they already exhibit was something remarkable. They moved with evident pride and satisfaction to themselves."
As the Confederate army abandoned Richmond on April 3rd, apparently these Black Confederate soldiers went along with General Custis Lee's wagon train on its journey. They would move unmolested until they reached the area of Painesville on April 5. Here they were attacked by General Henry Davies' cavalry troopers.
SNIP
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lawhawk Wed, Apr 7, 2010 10:15:20am |
Update: Krygyz opposition claims to have formed new government; also claims 100+ killed in protests/rioting that included the murder of the Interior minister.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 7, 2010 10:15:26am |
re: #540 drcordell
And as an aside, can anyone explain to me how forcing every American to purchase a product from private corporate health insurers is socialism?
It was originally a Republican free market alternative to the liberal single payer system.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 10:17:50am |
re: #542 lawhawk
Update: Krygyz opposition claims to have formed new government; also claims 100+ killed in protests/rioting that included the murder of the Interior minister.
What about the kidnapped deputy minister?
BTW, Bakiyev threatened to kick our bases out of Kyrgyzastan in--IIRC--2005 or 2008.
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garhighway Wed, Apr 7, 2010 10:18:04am |
re: #543 Killgore Trout
It was originally a Republican free market alternative to the liberal single payer system.
And therefore, Obama's a commie.
Is that hard to understand?
| 546 |
Obdicut Wed, Apr 7, 2010 10:19:29am |
re: #541 MandyManners
Yes, that was the desperation move I referred to.
They still weren't regular soldiers, and they never fought a battle.
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albusteve Wed, Apr 7, 2010 10:24:10am |
KT...check out these NM rainbows
[Link: www.fisheadsofthesanjuan.com...]
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lawhawk Wed, Apr 7, 2010 10:24:49am |
re: #544 MandyManners
So far, all I've seen is that the deputy minister was taken and beaten, but nothing about his whereabouts since. This report suggests his eyes were gouged out even after opposition leaders tried to stop the protesters from doing that.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 7, 2010 10:25:51am |
re: #547 albusteve
KT...check out these NM rainbows
[Link: www.fisheadsofthesanjuan.com...]
Nice fish!
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Cato the Elder Wed, Apr 7, 2010 10:26:07am |
re: #541 MandyManners
Something was nibbling at the back of my brain a few minutes ago.
With General Robert E. Lee's manpower reserves quickly draining, on March 23, 1865, General Orders #14 was issued which allowed for the enlistment of Blacks into the Confederate service. Shortly thereafter, a notice was posted in Petersburg's The Daily Express, "The commanding General deems the prompt organization of as large a force of negroes as can be spared, a measure of the utmost importance, and the support and co-operation of the citizens of Petersburg and the surrounding counties is requested by him for the prosecution to success of a scheme which he believes promises so great benefit to our cause...To the slaves is offered freedom and undisturbed residence at their old homes in the Confederacy after the war. Not the freedom of sufferance, but honorable and self won by the gallantry and devotion which grateful countrymen will never cease to reward."
SNIP
How bloody noble of the good general. Wait until liberation is in sight, and then offer your slaves the opportunity to fight for the wrong damn side.
Berlin, March 1, 1945: "Der Führer sees an immediate need to organize a brigade of those Jews still in hiding and strong enough to wield a weapon for the defense of the Fatherland against the invading Mongol Commie hordes and their American co-criminals. To those who volunteer is offered the freedom to return to their hiding places after the war, and the undying gratitude of all Aryans."
Feh.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 7, 2010 10:29:44am |
re: #548 lawhawk
So far, all I've seen is that the deputy minister was taken and beaten, but nothing about his whereabouts since. This report suggests his eyes were gouged out even after opposition leaders tried to stop the protesters from doing that.
Gouged out his eyes?! Freakin' barbaric!
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 7, 2010 11:31:54am |
re: #34 MandyManners
Why the hell did the administration release this information? Doesn't it give Awlaki a head's up?
That could be the point.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 7, 2010 11:43:35am |
re: #533 windsagio
I'm not (culturally) Jewish, so its really hard for me to understand how strong a claim 'we wore this in Poland in the 16th Century' really should be.
Altho actually, I'm on their side anyways, 'cuz I think anti-fur people are silly.
/still, any input on my first thought there would be way interesting :D
Same way I feel about activists who ignore the meat-packing industry, but scream and cry about live food in the Chinatown markets. 'Don't let your cultural bigotry poke out from under your activism like that!'
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