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Barrett Brown Gets the Collateral Smear

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In the ongoing smear campaign against yours truly, the waterheads of the wingnut blogosphere are constantly trying to find some way to accuse me of having stopped supporting Israel, or even better from their warped perspective, to accuse me of being an antisemite.

Sure, it’s completely disconnected from reality, but what else is new?

The latest smear initiative appears to be to attack Barrett Brown, since I’ve been linking to him and am involved in his “Project PM.” Barrett has an amusing post about it: BREAKING: I am a ‘Jew Hater,’ Apparently.

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235 comments

1 Bubblehead II  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:16:22pm

Does this in anyway correlate to the hate mail you earlier alluded to?

2 wrenchwench  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:17:12pm

Barrett manages to amuse on a consistent basis, even when soliciting for funds. I was just reading about Project PM.

You’ll also get a lot of bang for your buck in terms of the marginal utility of your patronage, as I am extraordinarily frugal, even Spartan insomuch as that I spend a lot of time sitting around without a shirt on, or pants, or more than one sock. I smoke Top rolling tobacco, which goes for around $3 a package and is sold in many prison commissaries. I eat oatmeal for breakfast rather than endangered condor eggs dipped in wasabi-infused veal compote like Christopher Hitchens does. Anyway, the tobacco is necessary for my work.
3 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:18:50pm

...(H)e (RSM) also criticized the media for playing up the perils of teen pregnancy, weirdly noting that Henry Tudor was the result of a teen pregnancy by Margaret Beaufort while ignoring that most teenage girls do not have such resources as one receives by virtue of being among the ruling family that controls a large portion of the British Isles.

4 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:20:43pm

(T)herein, he suggests that teen pregnancy reduction programs be targeted only at blacks and Hispanics, who of course have never managed to produce a Henry Tudor.

5 Obdicut  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:22:36pm

As a Jew, I'm sick of having accusations of antisemitism thrown around this lightly. Even besides the point that the charge against Charles and Barrett is completely false, people seem to use "anti-Semite" as a general term of abuse.

Given that hard-right parties are arising in Europe right now, even though they're pretending to be quite pro-Jewish, I don't think we should be watering down the term right now.

6 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:22:59pm
Speaking of degrees of separation from Justin Raimondo, Raimondo writes for Taki’s Magazine. You know who else writes for Taki’s Magazine? Robert Stacy McCain!

And do you know what Taki is? A frenzied batshit Jew-hater.

7 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:23:27pm

re: #5 Obdicut

As a Jew, I'm sick of having accusations of antisemitism thrown around this lightly. Even besides the point that the charge against Charles and Barrett is completely false, people seem to use "anti-Semite" as a general term of abuse.

Given that hard-right parties are arising in Europe right now, even though they're pretending to be quite pro-Jewish, I don't think we should be watering down the term right now.

The anti-Charles people have been gleefully predicting that he will turn on Israel at any moment for well over a year. I don't totally understand what this signifies to them, but it's important for them to make it happen.

8 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:26:00pm

re: #4 SanFranciscoZionist

(T)herein, he suggests that teen pregnancy reduction programs be targeted only at blacks and Hispanics, who of course have never managed to produce a Henry Tudor.

Would Henry Tudor have amounted to anything more than a serial pedophile if he hadn't been born into the royal family?

Has anyone here read Phillipa Gregory's Boleyn series? The Boleyn, Seymour and other "noble" families were nothing but a bunch of hardcore pimps.

9 bosforus  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:26:45pm

re: #7 SanFranciscoZionist

The anti-Charles people have been gleefully predicting that he will turn on Israel at any moment for well over a year. I don't totally understand what this signifies to them, but it's important for them to make it happen.

When prophecies go unfulfilled it's easier to just pretend they've already happened.

10 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:28:23pm

re: #5 Obdicut

Hard right parties in Europe; ongoing real and tangible anti-Semitism here in the US, and a UN that is predisposed to anti-Israel/anti-Semitism on a regular basis.

But hey, it's all a Zionist plot.

11 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:28:49pm

re: #8 Alouette

Would Henry Tudor have amounted to anything more than a serial pedophile if he hadn't been born into the royal family?

Has anyone here read Phillipa Gregory's Boleyn series? The Boleyn, Seymour and other "noble" families were nothing but a bunch of hardcore pimps.

No, but I've seen The Tudors, so i understand what you mean.

12 Mark Pennington  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:29:06pm

I took a week off from politics and return to see the wingnut crazy level has jacked up considerably.

13 Varek Raith  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:30:04pm

So, this is the wingnut's meme... Accuse others of being anti-Semites. Weird, considering who they seem to often hangout with...
Fucked. Up.

14 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:30:26pm

re: #4 SanFranciscoZionist

(T)herein, he suggests that teen pregnancy reduction programs be targeted only at blacks and Hispanics, who of course have never managed to produce a Henry Tudor.

It must be hard to see the facts with that white hood he wears.

15 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:30:55pm

re: #8 Alouette

Would Henry Tudor have amounted to anything more than a serial pedophile if he hadn't been born into the royal family?

Has anyone here read Phillipa Gregory's Boleyn series? The Boleyn, Seymour and other "noble" families were nothing but a bunch of hardcore pimps.

Well, I'm a Richard III gal, so my sympathy for Henry Tudor is reasonably low.

RSM is correct in that teenage (and pre-teen) young women got married and had babies all the time in days of yore, however, this is totally irrelevent to a modern society trying to keep down its teenage pregnancy rate.

16 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:31:35pm

re: #13 Varek Raith

It's more of that projection.

17 Varek Raith  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:33:23pm

Heh, watching the movie 2012 while reading about teh crazee on LGF.
Hmm, I think the movie is more grounded in reality than the wingnuts.
XD

18 wrenchwench  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:34:40pm

re: #7 SanFranciscoZionist

The anti-Charles people have been gleefully predicting that he will turn on Israel at any moment for well over a year. I don't totally understand what this signifies to them, but it's important for them to make it happen.

I am no longer able to be disappointed by former lizards who got banned, so I can't say I'm surprised by the one who smeared Barrett. And I believe the first commenter at the link, who apparently just registered at True/Slant so he could continue to stalk Charles, is the gag-worthy Gagdad Bob, another has-been scaly one who either turned into a creep or showed his creepiness after banning. And I mean make-your-skin-crawl kind of creep.

19 recusancy  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:35:03pm

re: #5 Obdicut

As a Jew, I'm sick of having accusations of antisemitism thrown around this lightly. Even besides the point that the charge against Charles and Barrett is completely false, people seem to use "anti-Semite" as a general term of abuse.

Given that hard-right parties are arising in Europe right now, even though they're pretending to be quite pro-Jewish, I don't think we should be watering down the term right now.

It's gotten to where any criticism of Israeli government policy is considered antisemitic.

20 Varek Raith  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:36:22pm

re: #19 recusancy

It's gotten to where any criticism of Israeli government policy is considered antisemitic.

Indeed, experienced that myself by a now banned lizard.
Sigh, some people just need to chill.

21 Obdicut  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:36:48pm

re: #19 recusancy

It's gotten to where any criticism of Israeli government policy is considered antisemitic.

I'm not even talking about that. I'm talking about the antisemite charge being thrown around, as it is here, completely divorced from any reason except "This guy talked to a guy who is antisemitic".

It's like people are trying to make an equivalence between having an antagonistic relationship with someone and having a friendly relationship with someone. That's a pretty important distinction

22 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:37:10pm

re: #18 wrenchwench

I am no longer able to be disappointed by former lizards who got banned, so I can't say I'm surprised by the one who smeared Barrett. And I believe the first commenter at the link, who apparently just registered at True/Slant so he could continue to stalk Charles, is the gag-worthy Gagdad Bob, another has-been scaly one who either turned into a creep or showed his creepiness after banning. And I mean make-your-skin-crawl kind of creep.

Yep, he obviously registered after reading this LGF post.

Obsession is an ugly thing.

23 recusancy  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:39:42pm

re: #21 Obdicut

I'm not even talking about that. I'm talking about the antisemite charge being thrown around, as it is here, completely divorced from any reason except "This guy talked to a guy who is antisemitic".

It's like people are trying to make an equivalence between having an antagonistic relationship with someone and having a friendly relationship with someone. That's a pretty important distinction

Ah. Yeah, that's like saying Bush was antisemitic because he held hands with an antisemite (King of Saudi Arabia).

24 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:41:25pm

re: #15 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, I'm a Richard III gal, so my sympathy for Henry Tudor is reasonably low.

RSM is correct in that teenage (and pre-teen) young women got married and had babies all the time in days of yore, however, this is totally irrelevent to a modern society trying to keep down its teenage pregnancy rate.

Also, the life expectancy at that time, 50 was considered advanced old age.

25 darthstar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:42:10pm

Ha

26 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:42:20pm

re: #22 Charles

Does Mr. Beaumont also work with you over at True/Slant?
The stalkers that you get are really scary people!

27 darthstar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:42:38pm

re: #25 darthstar

oops...wrong thread...enjoy all the same.

28 bosforus  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:43:24pm

re: #27 darthstar

oops...wrong thread...enjoy all the same.

If you don't vote for them you're sexist.

29 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:43:58pm

re: #26 Floral Giraffe

Does Mr. Beaumont also work with you over at True/Slant?
The stalkers that you get are really scary people!

Yeah, Stinky's doing double duty over there.

The creeps tried to flood my TS blog with the usual garbage, but Stinky's on the case.

30 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:44:14pm

re: #19 recusancy

It's gotten to where any criticism of Israeli government policy is considered antisemitic.

Anti-Semites love to hide behind the "criticism of Israeli government policy" excuse until you realize they criticize every policy of the Israeli government, no matter who is in charge of that government (as long as it is a Joo)

31 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:45:11pm

re: #25 darthstar

That's just too funny.

32 Mark Pennington  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:45:14pm

False charges of anti-Semitism demean the accuser, not the accused.

33 recusancy  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:45:28pm

re: #30 Alouette

Anti-Semites love to hide behind the "criticism of Israeli government policy" excuse until you realize they criticize every policy of the Israeli government, no matter who is in charge of that government (as long as it is a Joo)

Case in point.

34 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:46:06pm

re: #19 recusancy

It's gotten to where any criticism of Israeli government policy is considered antisemitic.

I don't think it's even that nuanced. Most of these yahoos know little about actual Israeli policy, and favor policy that's well to the right of what any Israeli government is actually willing to consider. For most of these folks, Israel is simply a surrogate U.S., another nation to derive a sense of self-worth from supporting, and a proxy 'good guy' in the fight against the Muslim world.

35 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:47:58pm

I just have to say, isn't it grand that "Jew Hater" is an insult? The worst insult they could think to throw?

Whether or not it's inaccurately applied, it hasn't always been an insult.

36 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:48:34pm

re: #23 recusancy

Ah. Yeah, that's like saying Bush was antisemitic because he held hands with an antisemite (King of Saudi Arabia).

But these guys don't look to evidence and then draw conclusions, they draw conclusions and then look for evidence.

Bush was the good guys, so he could hobnob with all the Saudis he wanted. They knew what was in his heart.

Obama is the bad guys, so if he bends over to get a medal from a Saudi, it's a scandal.

"Verdict first! Then the trial!" (Did that line make it into the new Alice in Wonderland?)

37 recusancy  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:48:41pm

re: #34 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't think it's even that nuanced. Most of these yahoos know little about actual Israeli policy, and favor policy that's well to the right of what any Israeli government is actually willing to consider. For most of these folks, Israel is simply a surrogate U.S., another nation to derive a sense of self-worth from supporting, and a proxy 'good guy' in the fight against the Muslim world.

Yup. I'm not an anti American traitor because I criticize things America does and I'm not an antisemite because I criticize things Israel does.

38 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:52:54pm

re: #33 recusancy

Case in point.

It's often true. I tend to be very wary of people who talk about 'criticizing Israeli policy' until I hear what Israeli policy they're actually criticizing.

39 What, me worry?  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:53:40pm

re: #36 SanFranciscoZionist

But these guys don't look to evidence and then draw conclusions, they draw conclusions and then look for evidence.

Bush was the good guys, so he could hobnob with all the Saudis he wanted. They knew what was in his heart.

Obama is the bad guys, so if he bends over to get a medal from a Saudi, it's a scandal.

"Verdict first! Then the trial!" (Did that line make it into the new Alice in Wonderland?)

hehe No. Of the 5 lines that did, that wasn't one of them. My husband calls me a purist. I hated the movie.

Anyhoo, I get a little pissy when someone criticizes Israeli policy and is called an anti-Semite (or worse if that's possible). It's happened here to a few posters who still post. You absolutely can criticize Israeli policy and not be a Jew hater and it's not all that nuanced either. You don't think Jews in Israel argue among themselves about poilcy? Give me a break.

When you start saying things that the Jews don't belong there or they stole the land or whatnot, THAT is anti-Semitsm.

40 Obdicut  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:54:28pm

re: #30 Alouette

There are people who criticize the Israeli government and mean exactly what they say-- the object to the Israeli government's policies or methods. And a lot of these people are actually Israeli, as well.

It is entirely true that lots of people cover for antisemitism by claiming they're only attacking Israel-- normally while holding Israel to a special standard no European country is asked to meet-- but there are honest, legitimate critics of Israeli policy.

41 What, me worry?  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:56:38pm

And just for the record, I find the words

JOOOOooooos
Juice

or any variation thereof to be anti-Semitic. We have a hard enough time referring to ourselves as "Jews" without saying "Jewish", why are we mimicking those who mock us? The word is JEW. It's YOURS. Take it BACK.

/rant off

42 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:56:56pm

People who say they're only criticizing Israeli policy and then show that they know nothing at all about Israel except what they've heard from ANSWER make me crazy.

People who say that they're only supporting Israel when they spew anti-Arab venom make me crazy.

Lots of people make me crazy.

43 Obdicut  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:57:47pm

re: #39 marjoriemoon

Any argument about Israel's 'legitimacy' as a state makes me laugh. Like European states aren't founded on a mountain of skulls.

Saudi Arabia-- a corrupt, inbred monarchy that cozens up to Wahabism and funds terrorism-- criticizing democratic Israel is especially risible.

re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah. People who support Israel but apparently hate domestic policy in Israel, given how much they oppose similar measures here, confuse me. So how do they support Israel, exactly?

44 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:58:39pm

re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist

People who say they're only criticizing Israeli policy and then show that they know nothing at all about Israel except what they've heard from ANSWER make me crazy.

People who say that they're only supporting Israel when they spew anti-Arab venom make me crazy.

Lots of people make me crazy.

No they piss you off. You never get crazy; Unlike moonbats or wingnuts, you always keep your head.

45 Obdicut  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:59:14pm

And now I really need to tackle this work. See you all later.

I do not actually consider any posters I've seen here at LGF to be antisemites, not 'even' Dr. Cordell. I do think that some people, as SFZ said, could stand to learn a hell of a lot more about the issues, and not pretend that the situation is Israel vs. Palestinians, rather than Israel vs. the Middle-Eastern Muslim World.

46 What, me worry?  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:59:56pm

re: #44 Dark_Falcon

No they piss you off. You never get crazy; Unlike moonbats or wingnuts, you always keep your head.

She does a silent crazy thing. You have to look real close to see it.

47 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:01:11pm

re: #43 Obdicut

Any argument about Israel's 'legitimacy' as a state makes me laugh. Like European states aren't founded on a mountain of skulls.

Saudi Arabia-- a corrupt, inbred monarchy that cozens up to Wahabism and funds terrorism-- criticizing democratic Israel is especially risible.

re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah. People who support Israel but apparently hate domestic policy in Israel, given how much they oppose similar measures here, confuse me. So how do they support Israel, exactly?

One thing that fascinates me is when people who oppose pretty much all 'entitlement programs' in the U.S. will get huffy if I say that I believe the extreme haredi communities in Israel have become too dependent on government handouts. Some of these folks aren't even Jewish, but they'll hang in there insisting that there can't be anything bad about the government supporting families where no one works--as long as they're Jews in the Middle East.

48 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:02:21pm

re: #43 Obdicut

Any argument about Israel's 'legitimacy' as a state makes me laugh. Like European states aren't founded on a mountain of skulls.

Saudi Arabia-- a corrupt, inbred monarchy that cozens up to Wahabism and funds terrorism-- criticizing democratic Israel is especially risible.

re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah. People who support Israel but apparently hate domestic policy in Israel, given how much they oppose similar measures here, confuse me. So how do they support Israel, exactly?

Also, the way socialist elements in Europe are seen as the devil, but socialist elements in Israel are fine and dandy. Baffling.

49 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:02:39pm

re: #44 Dark_Falcon

No they piss you off. You never get crazy; Unlike moonbats or wingnuts, you always keep your head.

Ah, thanks!

50 Barrett Brown  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:04:47pm

re: #22 Charles

The guy puts "creationists" in scare quotes. I hate it when people do that, take terms that aren't under dispute in quotes as if... I mean, I don't even know what the underlying intent is there. It's fucking bizarre and dishonest, whatever it is. I was debating with this pro-Putin contributor at True/Slant who kept putting "protests" in quotes when anyone protested Putin. Also, "opposition." I have no problem talking to anyone of any ideology, but I can't stand cheap little tricks like that.

51 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:05:02pm

re: #47 SanFranciscoZionist

One thing that fascinates me is when people who oppose pretty much all 'entitlement programs' in the U.S. will get huffy if I say that I believe the extreme haredi communities in Israel have become too dependent on government handouts. Some of these folks aren't even Jewish, but they'll hang in there insisting that there can't be anything bad about the government supporting families where no one works--as long as they're Jews in the Middle East.

really? wow. that makes my ears pop just thinking about it...

52 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:05:51pm

re: #50 Barrett Brown

The guy puts "creationists" in scare quotes. I hate it when people do that, take terms that aren't under dispute in quotes as if... I mean, I don't even know what the underlying intent is there. It's fucking bizarre and dishonest, whatever it is. I was debating with this pro-Putin contributor at True/Slant who kept putting "protests" in quotes when anyone protested Putin. Also, "opposition." I have no problem talking to anyone of any ideology, but I can't stand cheap little tricks like that.

I thought your post was extremely witty and engaging, FWIW. Makes me want to read more of your stuff...

53 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:06:30pm

re: #51 Aceofwhat?

really? wow. that makes my ears pop just thinking about it...

Has happened a time or two.

54 recusancy  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:06:55pm

re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist

People who say they're only criticizing Israeli policy and then show that they know nothing at all about Israel except what they've heard from ANSWER make me crazy.

People who say that they're only supporting Israel when they spew anti-Arab venom make me crazy.

Lots of people make me crazy.

Curious as to your view of Andrew Sullivan on the matter. He's been getting the antisemite label thrown at him a lot lately.

And as per my own views... Is it antisemitic to believe that there should be a settlement freeze outside of '67 borders? I'm pretty much of the views of Ehud Barak. Besides that they are their own sovereign country and can do what they please. The middle east and the world is better off with their continued existence and prosperity.

55 Sigma_x  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:10:14pm

Totally off topic, but I can't help it.

Have you seen the Forbes profile on Gelnn Beck out today? Here's a choice quote...

"I could give a flying crap about the political process." Making money, on the other hand, is to be taken very seriously, and controversy is its own coinage. "We're an entertainment company," Beck says.

[Link: www.forbes.com...]

And yet, I'm watching him on TV right now going on and on, close to tears, about the political process.

56 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:10:54pm

re: #54 recusancy

Curious as to your view of Andrew Sullivan on the matter. He's been getting the antisemite label thrown at him a lot lately.

And as per my own views... Is it antisemitic to believe that there should be a settlement freeze outside of '67 borders? I'm pretty much of the views of Ehud Barak. Besides that they are their own sovereign country and can do what they please. The middle east and the world is better off with their continued existence and prosperity.

I really don't know Sullivan well enough to comment on his work. I know him mainly as the crazy man who's obsessed with Sarah Palin's uterus.

I wouldn't say that it's anti-Semitic to favor a settlement freeze outside the 67 borders, but I would ask why. What do you see ultimately happening with that land? The nations it was taken from it war will never take it back. I'd like to see some resolution with those chunks of land, but I have some issues with the pressure put on Israel not to make use of it.

57 Mark Pennington  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:12:35pm

re: #52 Aceofwhat?

I thought your post was extremely witty and engaging, FWIW. Makes me want to read more of your stuff...

I found him via Charles and highly recommend bookmarking him.

58 Cato the Elder  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:14:10pm

re: #54 recusancy

Is it antisemitic to believe that there should be a settlement freeze outside of '67 borders?

Probably not anti-Semitic, just really, really naive.

Those borders ceased to be operative when the Arabs crossed them to try and destroy Israel. Israel won. Spoils of war. It's one thing I still agree with Donald Rumsfeld on.

Can you imagine if the Germans were still whining about Poles and Russians building houses in East Prussia after losing that territory 65 years ago in a war of aggression?

But as always, one rule for the rest of the world, another for Israel.

59 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:14:38pm

re: #55 Sigma_x

Totally off topic, but I can't help it.

Have you seen the Forbes profile on Gelnn Beck out today? Here's a choice quote...

"I could give a flying crap about the political process." Making money, on the other hand, is to be taken very seriously, and controversy is its own coinage. "We're an entertainment company," Beck says.

[Link: www.forbes.com...]

And yet, I'm watching him on TV right now going on and on, close to tears, about the political process.

You can't cry while watching Beck. That's his schtick!

//

60 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:16:22pm

It's appears like this is the new parlor game of the 21st century. Equivalency and degrees of separation. I've notice people doing it a lot lately. It may be fun for a while, but it really lacks substance and it leaves you with an empty feeling.

61 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:16:37pm

re: #50 Barrett Brown

The guy puts "creationists" in scare quotes. I hate it when people do that, take terms that aren't under dispute in quotes as if... I mean, I don't even know what the underlying intent is there. It's fucking bizarre and dishonest, whatever it is. I was debating with this pro-Putin contributor at True/Slant who kept putting "protests" in quotes when anyone protested Putin. Also, "opposition." I have no problem talking to anyone of any ideology, but I can't stand cheap little tricks like that.

Heh. And he compares me to "that Russell Crowe" character from "A Beautiful Mind," apparently failing to understand that this character was based on a Nobel Prize-winning mathematician, John Nash, who was renowned for his math genius and his ability to solve problems no one else could.

What this fool took away from the movie was that the character was nuts, and missed the fact that Nash suffered from schizophrenia, as many true geniuses have. Pathetic.

62 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:16:49pm

re: #2 wrenchwench

heeheehee! I love it, he's got a way with the language :D

63 recusancy  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:17:03pm

re: #56 SanFranciscoZionist

I really don't know Sullivan well enough to comment on his work. I know him mainly as the crazy man who's obsessed with Sarah Palin's uterus.

I wouldn't say that it's anti-Semitic to favor a settlement freeze outside the 67 borders, but I would ask why. What do you see ultimately happening with that land? The nations it was taken from it war will never take it back. I'd like to see some resolution with those chunks of land, but I have some issues with the pressure put on Israel not to make use of it.

Well, I guess it comes back to Barak's point. If they continue to take land, which includes the Arab populations then they either have to allow them full citizenship and voting rights or effectively have a form of apartheid. If they are given full rights then sooner or later Arabs will outnumber Jews and it will cease to be a Jewish state. I believe a two state solution is the least worst solution, so continuing to expand the '67 borders will make that harder if not impossible.

64 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:19:04pm

re: #55 Sigma_x

that's the guy speaking the truth!

he was a morning zoo host. He would watch Phil Hendrie do his radio show, when he was under the same syndication company as him, then he lifted Hendrie's techniques for his own show. The guy is a money making android.

65 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:19:18pm

re: #61 Charles

Heh. And he compares me to "that Russell Crowe" character from "A Beautiful Mind," apparently failing to understand that this character was based on a Nobel Prize-winning mathematician, John Nash, who was renowned for his math genius and his ability to solve problems no one else could.

What this fool took away from the movie was that the character was nuts, and missed the fact that Nash suffered from schizophrenia, as many true geniuses have. Pathetic.

People like this heckler don't think. When you challenge them, they react with hostility. Calmness and reason are outweighed by animal reactions. Though to call such reacts 'animal' is perhaps a disservice. My mother's cats are far more rational and react to new situations better than these blogstalkers.

66 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:20:04pm

re: #60 Walter L. Newton

It's appears like this is the new parlor game of the 21st century. Equivalency and degrees of separation. I've notice people doing it a lot lately. It may be fun for a while, but it really lacks substance and it leaves you with an empty feeling.

and it's easy to do with the internet, all the hyperlinking makes the HE DID IT TOO and LOOK WHO HE KNOWS thing so effortless.

67 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:21:30pm

re: #65 Dark_Falcon

Kitties! My new ones have been very rationally knocking all our books off the shelves and loafing on my keyboard so that my laptop is in some crazy big text mode when I sit down at it.

They sleep in the SINK and they make more sense than these freaky stalker types.

68 Varek Raith  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:22:32pm

re: #66 WindUpBird

and it's easy to do with the internet, all the hyperlinking makes the HE DID IT TOO and LOOK WHO HE KNOWS thing so effortless.

Image: nou-57914.jpg

69 What, me worry?  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:23:07pm

re: #54 recusancy

Curious as to your view of Andrew Sullivan on the matter. He's been getting the antisemite label thrown at him a lot lately.

And as per my own views... Is it antisemitic to believe that there should be a settlement freeze outside of '67 borders? I'm pretty much of the views of Ehud Barak. Besides that they are their own sovereign country and can do what they please. The middle east and the world is better off with their continued existence and prosperity.

That part of Israeli policy gets a little stickier. Why would someone not support Israel building on their own land? Actually I think it comes from a lot of ignorance. People don't know which areas they're talking about.

Settlement is the wrong word. These are not settlements. They are Jewish towns with schools and groceries, houses and industry. They number about 200,000 people total. They are not even disputed territories. They were never on the negotiating table. They were never offered to the Arabs.

Here's a good article showing the Arab and Jewish neighborhoods in Jerusalem and a few debunking of myths regarding "settlements."

[Link: aliyahblog.com...]

70 yenta-fada  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:25:09pm

re: #30 Alouette

If only I could give you more updings for that one! The White Supremacists constantly say that they are not anti-Semites (some of their best friends ARE Jewish). I have been fighting against these people blinded by hate on gold chat boards for years. They pound away that The Rothschilds control almost all of the wealth in the world and Jews have started all the wars, etc. ARRRRRGH!!! It is unfortunate that Goldman Sachs has turned itself into a sociopathic organization with underhanded banking practices and outright fraud. This story will continue to surface as time goes on. The heavy Jewish presence of Jews on the Board of the Federal Reserve drives the wingnuts into a frenzy of Jew hatred. So, a few Jews making huge amounts of money on Wall Street has fueled radical rightwing hatred of all things Jewish and Israeli. These opinions are WORLD wide, not just North American.

71 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:29:16pm

Oh for Pete's sake.

I turned on Glenn Beck's Comedy Hour just to see what he's raving about today, and sure enough, here he is again with the freaking blackboards, covered with pictures of the founding fathers.

And he's interviewing psychotic religious right freak David Barton of Wallbuilders, an open theocrat and creationist who was behind the disgusting historical revisionism recently enacted by the Texas School Board.

Two of the worst people in America, brought to you by Fox News.

72 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:31:47pm

re: #71 Charles

Oh for Pete's sake.

I turned on Glenn Beck's Comedy Hour just to see what he's raving about today, and sure enough, here he is again with the freaking blackboards, covered with pictures of the founding fathers.

And he's interviewing psychotic religious right freak David Barton of Wallbuilders, an open theocrat and creationist who was behind the disgusting historical revisionism recently enacted by the Texas School Board.

Two of the worst people in America, brought to you by Fox News.

So that is who that guy is...
Come on Beck..Cry! or else I'm turning Golf back on...

73 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:32:03pm

re: #69 marjoriemoon

That part of Israeli policy gets a little stickier. Why would someone not support Israel building on their own land? Actually I think it comes from a lot of ignorance. People don't know which areas they're talking about.

Settlement is the wrong word. These are not settlements. They are Jewish towns with schools and groceries, houses and industry. They number about 200,000 people total. They are not even disputed territories. They were never on the negotiating table. They were never offered to the Arabs.

Here's a good article showing the Arab and Jewish neighborhoods in Jerusalem and a few debunking of myths regarding "settlements."

[Link: aliyahblog.com...]

Moreover, the press doesn't bother to find out, either. This strikes me as being for two main reasons:

1. The news agency sees 'the story' as the tensions in negotiating and in 'the violence'. Trying to explain things is seen as not needed to draw in viewers.

2. The news agency wants to focus on pressuring Israel. If they actually explain the situation truthfully, the Arabs often become angry and will cut the agency off from access. At worst the might target the agency's members for terror. Israel can be pushed at safely. This is a kind of Stockholm Syndrome.

74 brookly red  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:33:16pm

That's not the same David Barton that own's the chain of gyms is it?

75 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:34:13pm

Goodness- not too much detail here so I don't risk identifying myself but do any of you have a job where a last minute schedule change by The Big Guy results in you having to move 3 vice big guys, 40 director big guys, 100 medium guys, 300 guest guys, a meeting facility, an AV team, and assorted administrative guys? Thank goodness our budget doesn't include money for catering- at least I don't have to move food.

Whew-nothing like a little adrenalin shot in the evening.

76 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:35:06pm

re: #72 HoosierHoops

So that is who that guy is...
Come on Beck..Cry! or else I'm turning Golf back on...


Better yet come to Georgia and see it live. Spend your tourist dollars. Rejuvinate our economy. Pay my salary!!

Thank you for your patronage.

77 bosforus  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:36:09pm

re: #61 Charles

Heh. And he compares me to "that Russell Crowe" character from "A Beautiful Mind," apparently failing to understand that this character was based on a Nobel Prize-winning mathematician, John Nash, who was renowned for his math genius and his ability to solve problems no one else could.

What this fool took away from the movie was that the character was nuts, and missed the fact that Nash suffered from schizophrenia, as many true geniuses have. Pathetic.

On that topic - There are 7 6 "Millennium Problems" with a prize of $1,000,000 each for solving them. Recently, the Poincare conjecture was solved/proven but the Russian who proved it, Grigori Perelman turned down the million dollars that was officially offered to him just two weeks ago because he is, to paraphrase, unhappy and bothered by fame and his disillusionment with the lack of ethics in the professional world of mathematics and has quit mathematics entirely. He is said to live at home with his mother and plays ping pong in his basement. I picked up the book The Millennium Problems on a whim at an airport and was very excited to hear of Perelman's accomplishment. My current avatar is the complex plane of one of the other Millennium Problems.
Fun info for the day.

78 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:36:16pm

re: #76 DaddyG

Better yet come to Georgia and see it live. Spend your tourist dollars. Rejuvinate our economy. Pay my salary!!

Thank you for your patronage.

I have my green Masters Tee-Shirt from 1999...

79 bosforus  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:36:57pm

re: #77 bosforus

A better link for Grigori Perelman.

80 brookly red  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:37:25pm

re: #76 DaddyG

Better yet come to Georgia and see it live. Spend your tourist dollars. Rejuvinate our economy. Pay my salary!!

Thank you for your patronage.

I don't care for golf, but I love to visit Savanna....

81 yenta-fada  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:37:58pm

re: #75 DaddyG

Wow, that's pressure! Cannot imagine as I work from home. Hope you can get a massage and relaxing music or de-stress in your favorite manner at the end of the day.

82 wrenchwench  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:38:04pm

re: #77 bosforus

That's great, but I did like your old avatar....

83 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:38:24pm

Yay for tourists. I'm updinging all Georgia visitors.

The trout fishing in the mountains is great too.

84 bosforus  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:39:05pm

re: #82 wrenchwench

That's great, but I did like your old avatar...

The one of my face? Why thank you for the compliment!

85 brookly red  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:39:11pm

re: #83 DaddyG

Yay for tourists. I'm updinging all Georgia visitors.

The trout fishing in the mountains is great too.

even Yankees?

86 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:39:11pm

re: #81 yenta-fada

Wow, that's pressure! Cannot imagine as I work from home. Hope you can get a massage and relaxing music or de-stress in your favorite manner at the end of the day.


The good news is I'm taking a vacation day tomorrow so I can join my kids who are on spring break. The botanical gardens are our playground this weekend.

87 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:39:29pm

re: #77 bosforus

i love ping pong

88 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:39:35pm

re: #85 brookly red

even Yankees?

Union money spends the same. Hee.

89 bosforus  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:39:50pm

re: #87 Aceofwhat?

i love ping pong

You just might be a genius.

90 brookly red  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:40:23pm

re: #88 DaddyG

Union money spends the same. Hee.

I would kill for an oyster po boy right about now...

91 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:40:23pm

re: #89 bosforus

You just might be a genius.


Or Forrest Gump. /

92 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:40:51pm

David Barton is also infamous for speaking at two events sponsored by the Christian Identity neo-Nazi group, then claiming he didn't know they were Nazis.

This is one despicable individual.

93 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:41:40pm

re: #89 bosforus

You just might be a genius.

re: #91 DaddyG

Or Forrest Gump. /

Heh. Here's hoping i'm somewhere in between...

94 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:42:06pm

re: #92 Charles
Gee I thought the guys in brown shirts and red epilets were the wilderness explorers. They shave their heads to prevent tic infestations right? //

95 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:42:07pm

re: #76 DaddyG

Better yet come to Georgia and see it live. Spend your tourist dollars. Rejuvinate our economy. Pay my salary!!

Thank you for your patronage.

All I know about Georgia is astonishing good metal bands keep coming from there. My hat's off to Georgia, probably the most vital metal scene in the US now.

96 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:42:30pm

re: #40 Obdicut

There are people who criticize the Israeli government and mean exactly what they say-- the object to the Israeli government's policies or methods. And a lot of these people are actually Israeli, as well.

It is entirely true that lots of people cover for antisemitism by claiming they're only attacking Israel-- normally while holding Israel to a special standard no European country is asked to meet-- but there are honest, legitimate critics of Israeli policy.

Of course you're absolutely correct. I don't think there is a Zionist alive who hasn't criticized some Israeli policy or other. But genuine criticism of Israeli policy is always specific about which particular policy they disagree with.

My point is, that anti-Semites will hide behind "criticism of Israeli policy" as an excuse, but when you ask them to name a policy, they will likely say "Israeli apartheid" or "Israel committing genocide" or "settlements" (as though "settlements" are the equivalent of "Apartheid" and "genocide").

97 wrenchwench  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:42:56pm

re: #89 bosforus

You just might be a genius.

I played ping pong last Saturday with my 14 yr. old mensa-members niece and nephew.

98 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:43:15pm

re: #97 wrenchwench

I played ping pong last Saturday with my 14 yr. old mensa-members niece and nephew.

that game moves too fast for me :D

99 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:43:32pm

re: #92 Charles

In other words he's the perfect guest for Beck?

100 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:43:39pm

re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist

People who say they're only criticizing Israeli policy and then show that they know nothing at all about Israel except what they've heard from ANSWER make me crazy.

People who say that they're only supporting Israel when they spew anti-Arab venom make me crazy.

Lots of people make me crazy.

I hope you're taking your meds.
/

101 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:43:40pm

re: #97 wrenchwench

I played ping pong last Saturday with my 14 yr. old mensa-members niece and nephew.

what grip do you use?

102 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:43:50pm

And we now have someone impersonating Cato the Elder on Twitter.

103 brookly red  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:44:22pm

re: #98 WindUpBird

that game moves too fast for me :D

don't try fencing...
please.

104 brookly red  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:45:07pm

re: #94 DaddyG

Gee I thought the guys in brown shirts and red epilets were the wilderness explorers. They shave their heads to prevent tic infestations right? //

/ no they just want to count you...

105 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:45:48pm

re: #103 brookly red

don't try fencing...
please.

I occasionally ski, that's where my sports experience begins and ends. I get all my exercise by playing blast beats ;-)

106 darthstar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:45:54pm

re: #93 Aceofwhat?

Heh. Here's hoping i'm somewhere in between...

Life is like a box of mushroom filled chocolates. Once you finish vomiting, it's a trip.

107 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:45:55pm

Here's what this latest creep is doing:

[Link: twitter.com...]

108 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:45:59pm

re: #102 Charles

And we now have someone impersonating Cato the Elder on Twitter.

That's about the lowest of the low. Trying to put words in the other person's mouth is a clear sign you've got no case, so you're just going to lie.

109 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:46:04pm

re: #94 DaddyG

Gee I thought the guys in brown shirts and red epilets were the wilderness explorers. They shave their heads to prevent tic infestations right? //

Nah...those were just Mounties...who got really lost. Good on you for befriending them/

110 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:46:09pm

re: #101 Aceofwhat?

what grip do you use?

I'm a Southpaw.. My natural spin breaks to a right handers back hand..Good in Ping pong..Great in Tennis.. Back before I didn't hate Tennis..
Lawd..I hate Tennis..But that's another story

111 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:46:10pm

re: #95 WindUpBird

All I know about Georgia is astonishing good metal bands keep coming from there. My hat's off to Georgia, probably the most vital metal scene in the US now.

The college kids in Athens keep supporting and generating good rock bands. The ATL (please don't call it hotlanta) has a very vibrant R&B and Rap scene. It is a good place to be if you are in a pop/rock/R&B kind of groove. We're also ramping up our Hollywood East status with lots of new films. The latest Miley Cyrus film was shot in Savannah. (I know... I spend way to much time with the folks from Economic Development.)

I'm an adoptee to the state but I really like living, playing and working here (in that order).

We have a fascinating Governor's race shaping up. Roy Barnes is positioned for his second term (albeit interrupted by two terms for Governor Perdue) and the Republican field is... well... currently interesting.

112 wrenchwench  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:46:43pm

re: #101 Aceofwhat?

what grip do you use?

Uh, right handed? For a while we were each using two paddles, and the table was merely a suggestion. It was more like tennis. I was sore for days. Hadn't played since the Nixon administration, I think.

113 Decatur Deb  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:46:46pm

re: #58 Cato the Elder

..snip

Can you imagine if the Germans were still whining about Poles and Russians building houses in East Prussia after losing that territory 65 years ago in a war of aggression?


Give them time. Shall we Gdansk?

114 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:46:49pm

re: #98 WindUpBird

that game moves too fast for me :D


You just don't have the balls for ping-pong. //

115 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:46:59pm

re: #108 Dark_Falcon

That's about the lowest of the low. Trying to put words in the other person's mouth is a clear sign you've got no case, so you're just going to lie.

It's probably Rodan, aka Rick Martinez. This is his style.

116 Varek Raith  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:47:17pm

re: #108 Dark_Falcon

That's about the lowest of the low. Trying to put words in the other person's mouth is a clear sign you've got no case, so you're just going to lie.

What empty lives these jackasses must have.

117 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:47:32pm

re: #111 DaddyG

cool! yeah, it seems to me that Atlanta sorta has the thing Austin has, just great music scene at critical mass.

Other good GA metal: Daath, Becoming the Archetype and Kylesa!

118 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:47:35pm

re: #110 HoosierHoops

I'm a Southpaw.. My natural spin breaks to a right handers back hand..Good in Ping pong..Great in Tennis.. Back before I didn't hate Tennis..
Lawd..I hate Tennis..But that's another story

i know...broken heart. sorry about that, dude. you're not supposed to let the wimmens ruin the best sports...

119 Gus  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:47:39pm

Wingnuts, being the war mongering chickenhawks that they are, hate everybody that aren't exactly like them. I'd say 90 percent of wingnut (or far-right) ideology is based on hate and fear. I never expect much from wingnuts for several reasons but the main one being that they have a limited intellectual capacity.

120 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:47:44pm

re: #114 DaddyG

You just don't have the balls for ping-pong. //

it's true. ;_;

121 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:48:07pm

re: #107 Charles

Here's what this latest creep is doing:

[Link: twitter.com...]

Reported as spam, since he's just shoveling shit.

122 brookly red  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:48:14pm

re: #108 Dark_Falcon

That's about the lowest of the low. Trying to put words in the other person's mouth is a clear sign you've got no case, so you're just going to lie.

I am not really sure about the death penalty BUT I would hang a man for impersonating Cato... every time.

123 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:49:04pm

re: #112 wrenchwench

Uh, right handed? For a while we were each using two paddles, and the table was merely a suggestion. It was more like tennis. I was sore for days. Hadn't played since the Nixon administration, I think.

lots of people favor the pincer/pencil grip you often see on tv. i'm more of a western grip sorta person...more power but requires a bigger wind-up...

124 darthstar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:49:16pm

re: #107 Charles

Here's what this latest creep is doing:

[Link: twitter.com...]

One of his followers has wingnut grammar/spelling skillz...

RAEDY FOR A FUN - FILELD NIGHT WITH THE GILRS. I'LL DEAL WITH THE HBUBY BIENG MAD AOBUT IT LAETR.

125 DaddyG  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:49:38pm

Speaking of great Georgia services- time to catch the GRTA bus to the suburbs!

Later Lizards!

126 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:49:41pm

re: #115 Charles

It's probably Rodan, aka Rick Martinez. This is his style.

Ah yes, the jerk who thinks its funny to call me Pink_Flamingo or Dork_Falcon. He's an asshat.

127 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:49:50pm

re: #107 Charles

Here's what this latest creep is doing:

[Link: twitter.com...]

You mean that's not Cato's Twitter page?

128 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:49:53pm

re: #116 Varek Raith

What empty lives these jackasses must have.

On the contrary, they have lives that are full and busy. They have to malign Charles, research and attack people he says hello to on the street, impersonate Lizards, spread rumors, fantasize, send hate e-mails, keep a close eye on registration, register sock puppets, make lists of names for sock puppets, monitor LGF's threads, complain about LGF's threads...

I don't know how these guys find time to go to the bathroom.

129 darthstar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:50:06pm

re: #115 Charles

It's probably Rodan, aka Rick Martinez. This is his style.

He's got Reine.de.tout as a follower too...I don't know if it's her, but they used her avatar too.

130 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:50:31pm

re: #128 SanFranciscoZionist

On the contrary, they have lives that are full and busy. They have to malign Charles, research and attack people he says hello to on the street, impersonate Lizards, spread rumors, fantasize, send hate e-mails, keep a close eye on registration, register sock puppets, make lists of names for sock puppets, monitor LGF's threads, complain about LGF's threads...

I don't know how these guys find time to go to the bathroom.

Wonder how many are on public assistance :D Irony!

131 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:50:37pm

re: #128 SanFranciscoZionist

On the contrary, they have lives that are full and busy. They have to malign Charles, research and attack people he says hello to on the street, impersonate Lizards, spread rumors, fantasize, send hate e-mails, keep a close eye on registration, register sock puppets, make lists of names for sock puppets, monitor LGF's threads, complain about LGF's threads...

I don't know how these guys find time to go to the bathroom.

but mooom...i need cheezy puffs...i'm busy mocking Charles...mooom...

132 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:51:01pm

re: #54 recusancy

Curious as to your view of Andrew Sullivan on the matter. He's been getting the antisemite label thrown at him a lot lately.

And as per my own views... Is it antisemitic to believe that there should be a settlement freeze outside of '67 borders? I'm pretty much of the views of Ehud Barak. Besides that they are their own sovereign country and can do what they please. The middle east and the world is better off with their continued existence and prosperity.

I don't know who came up with the meme that the 1949 cease-fire lines are holy borders and that peace will erupt once Israel retreats behind them.

Using the 1949 ceasefire lines to split Jerusalem and prevent normal population expansion like every other city in the world, just because the Jordanian Legion had the city surrounded and there was only one road, the western road, going in and out of Jerusalem, may or may not be anti-Semitism but it is freaking delusional, and will not bring peace.

133 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:51:16pm

bbl. have fun kicking the cretins-

134 Varek Raith  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:52:18pm

re: #128 SanFranciscoZionist

Heh. So sad. So true.

135 yenta-fada  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:52:25pm

re: #119 Gus 802

Actually, viewing the right wingnut Supremacists from financial boards, a large number of them are ex-military.
I would not like to go mano a mano with these guys; without their guns.

136 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:52:43pm

re: #127 Walter L. Newton

You mean that's not Cato's Twitter page?

No.

137 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:52:50pm

re: #58 Cato the Elder

Probably not anti-Semitic, just really, really naive.

Those borders ceased to be operative when the Arabs crossed them to try and destroy Israel. Israel won. Spoils of war. It's one thing I still agree with Donald Rumsfeld on.

Can you imagine if the Germans were still whining about Poles and Russians building houses in East Prussia after losing that territory 65 years ago in a war of aggression?

But as always, one rule for the rest of the world, another for Israel.

I green-hearted your post. Nana will have a seizure.

138 Mark Pennington  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:53:28pm

re: #102 Charles

And we now have someone impersonating Cato the Elder on Twitter.

I will never figure out what they get out of doing that. I got tired of being bothered with LGF haters and deleted mine. (Well, that and being bored with twitter...)

139 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:54:03pm

re: #129 darthstar

It's spelled differently. I hope the psycho's haven't found her.

140 Gus  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:54:49pm

re: #135 yenta-fada

Actually, viewing the right wingnut Supremacists from financial boards, a large number of them are ex-military.
I would not like to go mano a mano with these guys; without their guns.

It's the internet. People can be anything they want. Most of those guys were probably techies, mechanics or repairmen. In any event, wingnuts are dumber then rocks.

141 Four More Tears  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:55:26pm

OT: Glenn Beck Inc

With a deadpan, Beck insists that he is not political: "I could give a flying crap about the political process." Making money, on the other hand, is to be taken very seriously, and controversy is its own coinage. "We're an entertainment company," Beck says.

Emphasis mine.
Wow.

142 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:55:34pm

re: #135 yenta-fada

Actually, viewing the right wingnut Supremacists from financial boards, a large number of them are ex-military.
I would not like to go mano a mano with these guys; without their guns.

I know some ex military (family and friends of family) who are impressive dudes who are in shape, and I know some ex-military (also family and friends of family) who are doughy wastoids. Meh. My dad is ex-military, served in Vietnam, he's a nerdy twig just like me. :D

143 Gus  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:55:42pm

re: #140 Gus 802

Dumber then than rocks. PIMF

144 Mark Pennington  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:55:44pm

re: #107 Charles

Here's what this latest creep is doing:

[Link: twitter.com...]

I can tell by who they are following that it's the same person doing the ones I reported to you a while back.

145 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:56:20pm

re: #136 Charles

No.

Check your email. Got a message for you, see what you think.

146 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:56:27pm

re: #138 beekiller

I will never figure out what they get out of doing that. I got tired of being bothered with LGF haters and deleted mine. (Well, that and being bored with twitter...)

man, now I sorta want to start up my own twitter page just for kicks. I don't have the time, though. Already too much internet as it is.

147 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:57:07pm

re: #115 Charles

It's probably Rodan, aka Rick Martinez. This is his style.

Ricky Martinez? Didn't he just come out of the closet? NTTAWWT.

148 Varek Raith  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:57:19pm

re: #146 WindUpBird

man, now I sorta want to start up my own twitter page just for kicks. I don't have the time, though. Already too much internet as it is.

Golly, the interwebz really iz srs biznezz.

149 brookly red  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:57:49pm

re: #143 Gus 802

Dumber then than rocks. PIMF

D'oh!

150 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:57:59pm

re: #147 Alouette

Ricky Martinez? Didn't he just come out of the closet? NTTAWWT.

Racist! Vile denigrator of the heroic Latin people!!!!!

/

151 yenta-fada  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:58:07pm

re: #140 Gus 802

You are underestimating these guys. Just because they are crazy doesn't mean they are stupid. Some of them have made a lot of money in the markets with both technical and fundamental analysis. There are many who are engineers, for some reason. I'm married to an engineer and they are usually quite sane. Seriously, those wingnuts know a fair amount of math. People skills.....not so much.

152 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:58:58pm

re: #148 Varek Raith

Golly, the interwebz really iz srs biznezz.

It actually is business for me! It's essential to my income. But it is also SRZ BZZNZZ

153 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:59:08pm

re: #147 Alouette

Ricky Martinez? Didn't he just come out of the closet? NTTAWWT.

LMAO!

154 Mark Pennington  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:59:17pm

re: #146 WindUpBird

man, now I sorta want to start up my own twitter page just for kicks. I don't have the time, though. Already too much internet as it is.

If you do, they will certainly find you. I wasn't bothered as much until Charles started following me back and all hell broke loose. I've never seen trolls so obsessed in my life.

155 Gus  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:59:30pm

re: #149 brookly red

D'oh!

Yep. There's nothing dumber than calling someone dumb and then doing something dumb during the attempt.

156 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:00:25pm

re: #151 yenta-fada

I know a Google engineer, brilliant guy in his field, who believes every psycho paranoid Ron Paul meme ever. He's literally got his own bomb shelter, owns gold, thinks he's gonna have to go all survivalist, the whole bit.

157 brookly red  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:00:29pm

re: #155 Gus 802

Yep. There's nothing dumber than calling someone dumb and then doing something dumb during the attempt.

upding for taking it well.

158 bosforus  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:00:47pm

re: #126 Dark_Falcon

Ah yes, the jerk who thinks its funny to call me Pink_Flamingo or Dork_Falcon. He's an asshat.

Dork_Falcon - That's gold, Jerry! Gold!

159 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:01:20pm

re: #144 beekiller

I can tell by who they are following that it's the same person doing the ones I reported to you a while back.

I wonder how those folks would like it if we registered 6 million sock puppets and trashed them day and night?
Childish....How is that Blogmacracy working out for you? They can't help themselves it would seem....They just can't let it go.
As Fleetwood Mac sang once.. You can go your own way

160 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:01:40pm

re: #154 beekiller

If you do, they will certainly find you. I wasn't bothered as much until Charles started following me back and all hell broke loose. I've never seen trolls so obsessed in my life.

Yowza. I think I'd only use the account to link to hilarious NWS stuff that would be deleted here :D

161 bosforus  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:01:50pm

re: #151 yenta-fada

I'm married to an engineer and they are usually quite sane.


Too sane, if you ask my wife.

162 Gus  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:02:28pm

re: #151 yenta-fada

You are underestimating these guys. Just because they are crazy doesn't mean they are stupid. Some of them have made a lot of money in the markets with both technical and fundamental analysis. There are many who are engineers, for some reason. I'm married to an engineer and they are usually quite sane. Seriously, those wingnuts know a fair amount of math. People skills...not so much.

I was mainly talking about Dan Collins, Robert Stacy McCain, Jim Robinson, etc. I didn't want to turn this into a debate. Feck the wingnuts and the chickenhawk tank they rode in on from their mother's basement.

163 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:02:59pm

re: #155 Gus 802

Yep. There's nothing dumber than calling someone dumb and then doing something dumb during the attempt.

Yep, that tends to fall into the EPIC FAIL category.

164 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:03:01pm

re: #159 HoosierHoops

Nah, Lizards have better things to do with their time!
Like, post on LGF!
*waves*

165 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:03:29pm

re: #151 yenta-fada

During the 2008 campaign, when you went down the list of Ron paul donations, it was all engineers and It guys :D

Maybe it's a function of loneliness? That was the idea my partner and I came up with. there seem to be a lot of lonely Rn Paul/Libertarian computer geek guys.

166 yenta-fada  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:04:07pm

re: #156 WindUpBird

There are more of that type of guy out there than you can even imagine. I mean, what would happen if things did blow up? You'd be left with neighbors who are psycho gun nuts with MREs and gold jewelry.//

167 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:04:17pm

re: #164 Floral Giraffe

Nah, Lizards have better things to do with their time!
Like, post on LGF!
*waves*

Hi you!
Hope today finds you well

168 brookly red  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:05:19pm

re: #163 Dark_Falcon

Yep, that tends to fall into the EPIC FAIL category.

yes, for better or worse I usually judge people by how, when & why they insult people... it can be most telling.

169 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:05:43pm

re: #166 yenta-fada

There are more of that type of guy out there than you can even imagine. I mean, what would happen if things did blow up? You'd be left with neighbors who are psycho gun nuts with MREs and gold jewelry.//

there's this power fantasy component to it. Red Dawn/Mad Max dude kicking ass in the apocalypse and defending his stuff with all his gunzzzz.

170 yenta-fada  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:05:48pm

re: #161 bosforus

I think I would like your wife. She must have a great sense of humor.

171 Gus  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:05:55pm

re: #168 brookly red

yes, for better or worse I usually judge people by how, when & why they insult people... it can be most telling.

You referring to me?

172 Varek Raith  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:06:08pm

re: #169 WindUpBird

there's this power fantasy component to it. Red Dawn/Mad Max dude kicking ass in the apocalypse and defending his stuff with all his gunzzz.

Need moar Vaults!

173 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:06:16pm

re: #171 Gus 802

You referring to me?

I'm on his case more than you! :D

174 Four More Tears  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:06:23pm

re: #168 brookly red

yes, for better or worse I usually judge people by how, when & why they insult people... it can be most telling.

Heh.
Heh heh heh.
Thank you very much for that laugh, Brook.

175 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:07:04pm

re: #172 Varek Raith

Need moar Vaults!

Yesh!

(I hate being too busy to veg in front of my Xbox :( )

176 bosforus  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:07:50pm

re: #170 yenta-fada

I think I would like your wife. She must have a great sense of humor.

If I were you I'd like my wife, too. And yes, she consistently cracks me up.

177 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:07:57pm

re: #165 WindUpBird

it's an odd phenomena. For the most part those in my office (I am a software engineer) are all moderate/liberal but I've known plenty elsewhere who are die hard ron paul/libertarian types, they were also fans of fallout and other post-apocalyptic stuff.

178 Varek Raith  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:08:14pm

re: #175 WindUpBird

Yesh!

(I hate being too busy to veg in front of my Xbox :( )

Always good to schedule some quality game time.
;)

179 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:08:29pm

re: #175 WindUpBird

if you are looking for a good game I highly recommend Dante's Inferno.

180 Four More Tears  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:08:37pm

Just Angry

Larry North, a guy from East Texas, was angry at the government, say federal prosecutors. And that's what drove him to leave 36 explosive devices, including pipe bombs, in post office boxes in 23 separate locations.

This guy needs to be angry with Taco Bell, not the gov't.

181 yenta-fada  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:09:09pm

re: #165 WindUpBird

I think a lot of these guys are loners. It's a chicken or egg argument. Do they do what they do because they have poor people skills, or is it the other way around? Many are downright misanthropes.

182 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:09:10pm

New Study: Race plays large role in Tea Party anger

The University of Washington completed a survery of the tea party movement and came up with some interesting findings.

"The tea party is not just about politics and size of government. The data suggests it may also be about race,"said Christopher Parker, a UW assistant professor of political science who directed the survey.
...
It found that those who are racially resentful, who believe the U.S. government has done too much to support blacks, are 36 percent more likely to support the tea party than those who are not.

Indeed, strong support for the tea party movement results in a 45 percent decline in support for health care reform compared with those who oppose the tea party. "While it's clear that the tea party in one sense is about limited government, it's also clear from the data that people who want limited government don't want certain services for certain kinds of people. Those services include health care," Parker said.

183 Four More Tears  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:09:47pm

re: #182 Killgore Trout

New Study: Race plays large role in Tea Party anger

Newer study: water still wet.

184 brookly red  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:09:47pm

re: #171 Gus 802

You referring to me?

no not at all, you made an ooop's and owned up to it quite respectable actually... I was referring to some (and not necessarily here) that seem rational till their button is pushed and the the CAPS & !!!111!!'s come out.

besides calling someone dumb is rather mild all thing considered. k?

185 Decatur Deb  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:10:27pm

re: #180 JasonA

Just Angry

This guy needs to be angry with Taco Bell, not the gov't.

That'll help with postal worker stress loads.

186 bratwurst  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:11:09pm

re: #168 brookly red

yes, for better or worse I usually judge people by how, when & why they insult people... it can be most telling.

That is certainly how I have judged you.

187 Gus  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:11:16pm

re: #184 brookly red

no not at all, you made an ooop's and owned up to it quite respectable actually... I was referring to some (and not necessarily here) that seem rational till their button is pushed and the the CAPS & !!!111!!'s come out.

besides calling someone dumb is rather mild all thing considered. k?

OK, OK. Sorry. Long day. My car battery went kaput and now it's dead. Completely gone and a replacement battery is about $125 and I'm already broke and behind on my rent and so on. Kind of stressed out here.

188 brookly red  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:11:35pm

re: #186 bratwurst

That is certainly how I have judged you.

hey it works right?

189 wrenchwench  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:11:55pm

re: #187 Gus 802

{Gus}

190 Randall Gross  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:12:35pm

re: #182 Killgore Trout

New Study: Race plays large role in Tea Party anger

New study : Religion plays Role in Racial Prejudice

WACO, Texas (ABP) -- More than 50 years after Martin Luther King Jr. lamented that 11 o'clock Sunday morning is the most segregated hour in America, a Baylor University study suggests that religion itself may be a contributing factor in racial prejudice.

The study, published in the journal Social Psychological and Personality Science, found that people subliminally "primed" with Christian words reported more negative attitudes about African-Americans than those primed with neutral words.
Wade Rowatt

"What's interesting about this study is that it shows some component of religion does lead to some negative evaluations of people based on race," said Wade Rowatt, associate professor of psychology and neuroscience at Baylor, who led the study. "We just don't know why."

191 Mark Pennington  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:12:36pm

re: #182 Killgore Trout

New Study: Race plays large role in Tea Party anger

That can't be true! There are 10 African American teabaggers and that proves it isn't about race!//

192 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:12:39pm

re: #187 Gus 802

OK, OK. Sorry. Long day. My car battery went kaput and now it's dead. Completely gone and a replacement battery is about $125 and I'm already broke and behind on my rent and so on. Kind of stressed out here.

Sorry to hear that. If there's anything non-monetary I can do, let me know.

193 Gus  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:12:57pm

re: #189 wrenchwench

{Gus}

Thanks. Same battery was only $70 about 4 years ago. Now it's $125?

194 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:13:29pm

re: #177 Dreggas

it's an odd phenomena. For the most part those in my office (I am a software engineer) are all moderate/liberal but I've known plenty elsewhere who are die hard ron paul/libertarian types, they were also fans of fallout and other post-apocalyptic stuff.

Really quite something! I work in the game industry as an animator/artist, but it's all contract stuff from home. Most of my software engineer friends tend to be more of the sparkly hippie nerd type, but I see so much of the IT/tech=Ron Paul phenomenon. I love post-apocalyptic imagery if it's fun, like beyond Thunderdome. People with dreadlocks in the desert riding in dune buggies. More Burning Man, less Red Dawn. :D

195 brookly red  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:13:32pm

re: #192 Dark_Falcon

Sorry to hear that. If there's anything non-monetary I can do, let me know.

/just watch my back while I jack this battery...

196 Decatur Deb  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:13:52pm

re: #187 Gus 802

Call local junk yards for one with a fresh warranty date.

197 Gus  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:13:57pm

re: #192 Dark_Falcon

Sorry to hear that. If there's anything non-monetary I can do, let me know.

Thank you DF.

198 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:14:17pm

re: #183 JasonA

Newer study: water still wet.

Interesting figures... do the math

He directed the Multi-State Survey of Race and Politics, a broad look at race relations and politics in contemporary America. The survey reached 1,015 residents of Nevada, Michigan, Missouri, Ohio, North Carolina, Georgia and California. All were battleground states in the 2008 presidential election with the exception of California, which was included in the survey to represent the West Coast.

The survey found that 30 percent of respondents had never heard of the tea party, but among those who had, 32 percent strongly approved of it. In that group, 56 percent of Republicans strongly approved, 31 percent of independents strongly approved and 5 percent of Democrats strongly approved.

Among whites who approved, 35 percent said they believe blacks to be hardworking, 45 percent said they believe them intelligent and 41 percent said they believe them trustworthy.

Whites who disapprove of President Barack Obama, the survey found, are 55 percent more likely to support the tea party than those who say they approve of him.

"Are we in a post-racial society? Our survey indicates a resounding no,"Parker said.

199 Gus  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:14:31pm

re: #196 Decatur Deb

Call local junk yards for one with a fresh warranty date.

Hmm, I didn't think of that. I'll check that out. Thanks.

200 Mark Pennington  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:15:02pm

re: #160 WindUpBird

Yowza. I think I'd only use the account to link to hilarious NWS stuff that would be deleted here :D

I would totally consider signing back up for that. :D

201 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:15:08pm

re: #187 Gus 802

{Gus}

202 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:16:49pm

re: #179 Dreggas

if you are looking for a good game I highly recommend Dante's Inferno.

Oh, i have Dragon Age, Bioshock 2, C&C 4 all sitting in their boxes because I have no time ;_;

203 Gus  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:17:37pm

re: #201 Floral Giraffe

{Gus}

FG! :)

204 brookly red  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:18:00pm

re: #198 Walter L. Newton

/maybe if they would stop taking those damn surveys...

205 bratwurst  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:19:13pm

re: #188 brookly red

hey it works right?

Have to admit...I have indeed found it to be a fairly accurate measurement of character, here and elsewhere.

206 reine.de.tout  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:21:25pm

re: #127 Walter L. Newton

You mean that's not Cato's Twitter page?

Whoa.

This person was "following" me on twitter, not that I ever post anything.
Just blocked it.

207 reine.de.tout  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:23:20pm

re: #129 darthstar

He's got Reine.de.tout as a follower too...I don't know if it's her, but they used her avatar too.

I got a notice that this person was following me - I assumed it was Cato.
My very very big mistake. Now it is blocked. I am truly the most gullible damned person on the face of the earth.

Someone did the same thing to me, twitter account using my real name, and mynameLizard, posting really vile things about Charles and many others. Gus 802 found it.

208 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:25:08pm

re: #207 reine.de.tout

the funny thing is, that griefer twitter account was probably seen by almost nobody but other stalker creeps. It's hard enough to legitimately build up a twitter audience.

209 Obdicut  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:25:54pm

re: #207 reine.de.tout

The book that I'm trying to write is partially about how suckers like you are the most wonderful people on earth, Reine.

Without people like you, it'd be a cynical bastard land of dog-eat-dog competition.

210 reine.de.tout  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:26:25pm

re: #208 WindUpBird

the funny thing is, that griefer twitter account was probably seen by almost nobody but other stalker creeps. It's hard enough to legitimately build up a twitter audience.

Exactly.
I retweet Charles' posts, and use Twitter to follow things of interest, but don't use it to post anything about myself, what's the point (I'm ancient; nobody I know even knows what twitter is LOL).

211 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:26:44pm

re: #188 brookly red

hey it works right?

it actually doesn't, but hey!

Lots of polite but obviously racist concern trolling guys pop up here to give cover to confederacy wackos, and they still get dinged down 20 times.

212 reine.de.tout  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:27:02pm

re: #209 Obdicut

The book that I'm trying to write is partially about how suckers like you are the most wonderful people on earth, Reine.

Without people like you, it'd be a cynical bastard land of dog-eat-dog competition.

Obdi - honestly, you think I'd learn, ya know?
Shit.
LOLing at myself.

213 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:27:58pm

re: #212 reine.de.tout

Obdi - honestly, you think I'd learn, ya know?
Shit.
LOLing at myself.

the internet moves pretty fast, and it's always the slimebags with no life and lots of frustrated aspirations who exploit new systems. Griefers in online games, malicious blog trolling, facebook scams, you name it.

214 Mark Pennington  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:28:38pm

re: #206 reine.de.tout

Whoa.

This person was "following" me on twitter, not that I ever post anything.
Just blocked it.

I followed you because you're awesome but you never followed me back. :(
I figured you just used it to retweet LGF too.

215 reine.de.tout  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:29:55pm

re: #213 WindUpBird

the internet moves pretty fast, and it's always the slimebags with no life and lots of frustrated aspirations who exploit new systems. Griefers in online games, malicious blog trolling, facebook scams, you name it.

The twitter scams are aggravations, rather than dangers.
It's so stupid.
re: #214 beekiller

I followed you because you're awesome but you never followed me back. :(
I figured you just used it to retweet LGF too.

Ha.
I did follow you back!
Then we somehow got disconnected.
anyhoo- I use FB to keep up with folks, all my peeps from HS are there, plus there are photos and, well, you can sort of have a "conversation".
Much more satisfactory, IMO.

216 bratwurst  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:32:35pm

re: #211 WindUpBird

it actually doesn't, but hey!

Lots of polite but obviously racist concern trolling guys pop up here to give cover to confederacy wackos, and they still get dinged down 20 times.

Touche...but trolls don't count as "people" in my book! ;)

217 Mark Pennington  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:32:36pm

re: #215 reine.de.tout

Ha.
I did follow you back!
Then we somehow got disconnected.
anyhoo- I use FB to keep up with folks, all my peeps from HS are there, plus there are photos and, well, you can sort of have a "conversation".
Much more satisfactory, IMO.

I am a FB whore so you don't have to sell me on which is better.

218 What, me worry?  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:42:28pm

re: #207 reine.de.tout

I got a notice that this person was following me - I assumed it was Cato.
My very very big mistake. Now it is blocked. I am truly the most gullible damned person on the face of the earth.

Someone did the same thing to me, twitter account using my real name, and mynameLizard, posting really vile things about Charles and many others. Gus 802 found it.

Honestly, I find it bizarre, weird, strange... makes no sense... to follow you. They don't like the cookbook?

219 Four More Tears  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:45:25pm

re: #218 marjoriemoon

Honestly, I find it bizarre, weird, strange... makes no sense... to follow you. They don't like the cookbook?

I hate cookbooks.

220 What, me worry?  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:51:44pm

re: #219 JasonA

I hate cookbooks.


[Video]

No! No!! Noooooo!!!!!!

I mean for real. Reine is great. She's more a conservative than a liberal, I would think. We've certainly gone a few rounds! But she's always debated smartly and honestly and she's a genuinely nice person. I guess I just see someone more controversial as a target for their ire.

221 reine.de.tout  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:51:49pm

re: #218 marjoriemoon

Honestly, I find it bizarre, weird, strange... makes no sense... to follow you. They don't like the cookbook?


Believe it or not:
I've gotten a few nasty comments at the cookbook blog. They have to go thru me before they're posted, so they never get posted.

Weird, eh?

222 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:52:34pm

re: #221 reine.de.tout

Glad you saw this & took care of the false Cato!

223 reine.de.tout  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:52:36pm

re: #220 marjoriemoon

No! No!! Nooo!!!

I mean for real. Reine is great. She's more a conservative than a liberal, I would think. We've certainly gone a few rounds! But she's always debated smartly and honestly and she's a genuinely nice person. I guess I just see someone more controversial as a target for their ire.

EXACTLY!
I am not at all controversial, fer cryin' out loud, and don't want to be.

224 reine.de.tout  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:53:12pm

re: #222 Floral Giraffe

Glad you saw this & took care of the false Cato!

No kidding.
I should have checked with him.

225 yenta-fada  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:53:47pm

re: #221 reine.de.tout

That free-floating anger makes about as much sense as road rage. There are lots of people who have to take their anger out on any random target.

226 Decatur Deb  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:54:21pm

re: #221 reine.de.tout

Believe it or not:
I've gotten a few nasty comments at the cookbook blog. They have to go thru me before they're posted, so they never get posted.

Weird, eh?

The anti-cilantro crowd are a tough bunch.

227 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:54:57pm

re: #226 Decatur Deb

The anti-cilantro crowd are a tough bunch.

I hate that herb!

228 Decatur Deb  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:55:34pm

re: #227 Floral Giraffe

I hate that herb!

See.

229 What, me worry?  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 4:00:07pm

re: #221 reine.de.tout

Believe it or not:
I've gotten a few nasty comments at the cookbook blog. They have to go thru me before they're posted, so they never get posted.

Weird, eh?

Totally! Some people really have too much time on their hands.

230 What, me worry?  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 4:02:07pm

re: #226 Decatur Deb

The anti-cilantro crowd are a tough bunch.

lol Now this sounds like a good story I missed.

I have a Cuban g/f who despises cilantro. I told her how much it perplexes me.

231 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 4:02:23pm

re: #221 reine.de.tout

Believe it or not:
I've gotten a few nasty comments at the cookbook blog. They have to go thru me before they're posted, so they never get posted.

Weird, eh?

YOU CALL THAT A ROULADE?!?!?!

People are nuts :D

232 Decatur Deb  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 4:10:17pm

re: #230 marjoriemoon

lol Now this sounds like a good story I missed.

I have a Cuban g/f who despises cilantro. I told her how much it perplexes me.

I got nothing, just playing off Her Majesty's recipe hate-mail.

233 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 4:11:58pm

This is like being back in middle school (Jr. High to you Northerners) with the He said/She said controversies and petty scandals.

I guess I cannot be trusted to make up my own mind as to what is relevant or not, I'm just a poor brainwashed lizardbot now who has been completely brainwashed by Charle's forceful charisma.

To the haters I just want to say:

1.) I post here because I want to, I do not agree with everything that is said here but I am also aware that I am required to reply like an adult when I disagree.

2.) "goodbye cruel site" posts burning your bridges are for children or Ideologues, and I cannot see any reason to trust either one's judgment or statements.

3.) Political partisanship at the expense of the overall welfare of the country is a bad thing Mmmkay?

4.) If you have some (even small) amount of discernment and intelligence it is not necessary for you to believe in every single word that is posted on a site in order to post there and argue the issues there.

5.) You are actively confining yourself to live in an "echo chamber" by ignoring the above points. You will only ever hear from people who agree with you 100%, and people who always respond just as you do to every conceived affront.

6.) Isn't this exactly what you accuse Charles of creating here at LGF? Well isn't it? Yet you voluntarily consign yourself to live within the narrow and censored view that you falsely accuse Charles of creating here.

7.) WTF are you thinking? Really, I mean that in the nicest and least judgemental way, but doesn't reality have to trump partisanship at some point?

234 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:00:27pm

Having read some of Barrett Brown's material via links from LGF, I added his blog to my (ever-expanding, completely unmanageable at this point) RSS library.

Mission accomplished, wingnuts. You've won him another reader. Or is that not what you intended?

235 prairiefire  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:26:40pm

re: #194 WindUpBird

Sparkly Hippie Nerd type! Sign me up!


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