What’s In a Name?
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At today’s tea party protest, a sign that raises the question: can we call them “teabaggers” now?
(Hat tip: Ana Marie Cox.)
516 comments
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jamesfirecat Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:04:13am |
I'm sure the other TEA PARTIERS will be chasing that rapskallion off for making them look so bad I bet he's a liberal plant!
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Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:06:14am |
The
Example
All
Baggers
Are
Giving
Gets
Extremely
Ridiculous
Swiftly
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comradebillyboy Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:07:50am |
Teabagger is the perfect name for these good folks. They are pwned by the republicans.
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:08:07am |
One thing they can't be called is a grassroots movement, atro-turf doesn't have roots.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:08:31am |
re: #4 comradebillyboy
They're the teabaggee not the teebagger so the jokes really on them.
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Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:15:26am |
T
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A
Both sides suck!
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/I am the killjoy
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pharmmajor Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:15:34am |
Again I point out, these fools who call themselves Republicans don't belong at the Tea Parties. They were silent when Bush carried on the same big-government waste that Obama is continuing, and they've corrupted the movement into a festival of hatred and lunacy.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:16:36am |
re: #10 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Anyone else just LGF just die on them?
Yeah, the Apache server crashed, as it does occasionally. Restarted and it's fine now.
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wrenchwench Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:16:51am |
re: #10 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Anyone else just LGF just die on them?
It was just resting. The new comments thingy spun for a while.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:17:37am |
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Cato the Elder Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:18:11am |
Can I still call Ana Marie Cox an opportunistic pseudo-intellectual skank who rode into her job on the back of the word "ass-fucking"?
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Stanghazi Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:18:11am |
I took it as a sign that my comment wasn't that good. (didn't post)
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wrenchwench Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:19:03am |
re: #9 pharmmajor
Again I point out, these fools who call themselves Republicans don't belong at the Tea Parties. They were silent when Bush carried on the same big-government waste that Obama is continuing, and they've corrupted the movement into a festival of hatred and lunacy.
Then could you arrange so that those who call themselves Libertarians would excuse themselves from the Republican Party?
/Luap Nor
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:20:19am |
re: #14 Cato the Elder
Can I still call Ana Marie Cox an opportunistic pseudo-intellectual skank who rode into her job on the back of the word "ass-fucking"?
you literally did/
(evil dance of joy currently afoot)
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Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:21:12am |
re: #11 Charles
Yeah, the Apache server crashed, as it does occasionally. Restarted and it's fine now.
Dang, and I had written a stunningly perfect post on how the teabaggers were fighting the sweaty balls of government oppression. Truly a stunning literally masterpiece, lost to the aether of digital space.
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zora Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:22:11am |
re: #14 Cato the Elder
do you know something about her that would lead you to this conclusion?
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recusancy Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:23:40am |
At least when the hippies protest they aren't fat and out of shape and need to bring fold out chairs to sit on.
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Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:24:59am |
re: #20 recusancy
At least when the hippies protest they aren't fat and out of shape and need to bring fold out chairs to sit on.
So you like anorexics rolling on dirty blankets who reek of patchouli?
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recusancy Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:25:03am |
re: #14 Cato the Elder
Can I still call Ana Marie Cox an opportunistic pseudo-intellectual skank who rode into her job on the back of the word "ass-fucking"?
Why "skank"?
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Charles Johnson Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:26:26am |
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Cato the Elder Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:27:07am |
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Charles Johnson Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:27:42am |
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:28:06am |
re: #19 zora
do you know something about her that would lead you to this conclusion?
didn't she initially achieve prominence by exposing her dalliances with the political elite?
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Charles Johnson Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:29:18am |
The teabaggers now have their own version of the infamous "Just Poop."
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:30:08am |
I liked the lady with the teabag hat better.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:30:54am |
however, in this gentleman's defense, everything is spelled right, and the sentence is fairly untortured. Not bad.
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What, me worry? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:31:16am |
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DaddyG Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:32:26am |
I’ve been musing on the back and forth between conservatives and liberals on the boards and have come up with a few truisms about political trends in the US from an organizational standpoint.
The party after a significant win:
Feel they have a mandate
Are prone to hubris
Are resistant to changing power structures and organizations that got them there
Call for bi-partisanship; meaning you should help us pass our agenda because the majority of citizens agree with us (e.g. “We won”)
Quickly disown their more radical wings and take on the trappings of the establishment
Govern much the same as the previous administration even to the point of committing the same “sins” they campaigned against
The party after a significant loss:
Feel the game was rigged (e.g. “They Cheated”)
Are prone to internal power struggles and emerging factions
Call for bi-partisanship; meaning you should include our agenda items because a significant group of citizens voted with us (e.g. “We represent the rest of the people”)
Quickly see their more radical wings jockeying for position in the organization and legitimacy
Complain about everything the new administration is doing even though it is much the same as the previous administration to the point of condemning the same “virtues” they previously supported
Strong organizations that survive defeat (or victory) find a good balance between questioning themselves and their values without the less stable elements taking control of the party or getting stuck in reformation forever without finding their center again.
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Spider Mensch Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:33:37am |
re: #14 Cato the Elder
Can I still call Ana Marie Cox an opportunistic pseudo-intellectual skank who rode into her job on the back of the word "ass-fucking"?
why you old honey dripper, you!! I bet you have to beat them off of you, you sly dog!
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What, me worry? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:34:30am |
re: #29 SanFranciscoZionist
however, in this gentleman's defense, everything is spelled right, and the sentence is fairly untortured. Not bad.
I was thinking the same thing. Particularly when I get to this one.
[Link: yfrog.com...]
CHANG IS WAT I GOT IN MY REFUND
(Who is Chang and what is he doing with him??)
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jamesfirecat Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:35:01am |
re: #31 DaddyG
I’ve been musing on the back and forth between conservatives and liberals on the boards and have come up with a few truisms about political trends in the US from an organizational standpoint.
The party after a significant win:
Feel they have a mandate
Are prone to hubris
Are resistant to changing power structures and organizations that got them there
Call for bi-partisanship; meaning you should help us pass our agenda because the majority of citizens agree with us (e.g. “We won”)
Quickly disown their more radical wings and take on the trappings of the establishment
Govern much the same as the previous administration even to the point of committing the same “sins” they campaigned againstThe party after a significant loss:
Feel the game was rigged (e.g. “They Cheated”)
Are prone to internal power struggles and emerging factions
Call for bi-partisanship; meaning you should include our agenda items because a significant group of citizens voted with us (e.g. “We represent the rest of the people”)
Quickly see their more radical wings jockeying for position in the organization and legitimacy
Complain about everything the new administration is doing even though it is much the same as the previous administration to the point of condemning the same “virtues” they previously supportedStrong organizations that survive defeat (or victory) find a good balance between questioning themselves and their values without the less stable elements taking control of the party or getting stuck in reformation forever without finding their center again.
I take offense to "Feel the game was rigged " I still stand by the fact that Bush won the 2000 election by a vote of 5-4 and comparing the possible dirty business of that to 2008 blow out is flat out wrong in my opinion.
Also can you give me some examples of the Democrats
"Complain about everything the new administration is doing even though it is much the same as the previous administration to the point of condemning the same “virtues” they previously supported"
Become none come straight to the forefront of my mind if you have some examples I'll listen.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:35:10am |
re: #25 Charles
That so needs a "Who's we white boy?" caption.
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Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:35:17am |
re: #32 Spider Mensch
why you old honey dripper, you!! I bet you have to beat them off of you, you sly dog!
I'm just waiting to hear more about the buggery.
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Bubblehead II Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:35:18am |
Well I am off the to Party. I hope (DRINK!) that I wont find anything to take pictures of, but you never know.
L8R
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Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:36:00am |
re: #33 marjoriemoon
I was thinking the same thing. Particularly when I get to this one.
[Link: yfrog.com...]
CHANG IS WAT I GOT IN MY REFUND
(Who is Chang and what is he doing with him??)
ITS THE DAMN CHINESE AGAIN!
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:39:17am |
re: #34 jamesfirecat
come on. even after it was all said and done, they did end up finishing the recount (after the SCOTUS decision) and Bush won the recount. It's an inconvenient truth for the 'he stoled it!1!' crowd...i know.
i have gold foil hats for sale...invest and protect!
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windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:40:24am |
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:40:57am |
re: #30 marjoriemoon
There's this... NOM..
Nom Nom Nom Nom... (totally different meaning)
[Link: yfrog.com...]
I just so had to Photoshop their logo!
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jamesfirecat Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:41:44am |
re: #41 Aceofwhat?
come on. even after it was all said and done, they did end up finishing the recount (after the SCOTUS decision) and Bush won the recount. It's an inconvenient truth for the 'he stoled it!1!' crowd...i know.
i have gold foil hats for sale...invest and protect!
Well I still feel that the supreme court is doing something wrong when they gave a ruling and then said they didn't want it to be used a precedent.
Either way the 2000 election was a much closer election then the 2008 election. We can agree on that right?
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Sigma_x Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:42:09am |
I find it really odd that FOX isn't covering the protest live from D.C. In fact, other than a promo for a coverage of a rally in Atlanta tonight, they're hardly mentioning it at all.
I'm going to assume it's because turnout is so poor.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:42:23am |
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stevemcg Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:42:29am |
re: #41 Aceofwhat?
Actually the recount was never finished. I think a newspaper looked at the ballots, but that isn't a recount. The exercise was pointless anyway because it didn't matter what the newspaper came up with, the election was decided by the court.
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Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:42:39am |
re: #41 Aceofwhat?
come on. even after it was all said and done, they did end up finishing the recount (after the SCOTUS decision) and Bush won the recount. It's an inconvenient truth for the 'he stoled it!1!' crowd...i know.
i have gold foil hats for sale...invest and protect!
BAH! I have beaded seat cushions fashioned entirely from hyrbid seed stock. Relax while you invest in the future.
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windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:43:26am |
re: #46 Aceofwhat?
I'm hoping That Charles puts up a feed of Obama's speech, unless I got my times wrong and missed it.
I set my alarm for this, so if I got it wrong, I'll bad sad :(
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What, me worry? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:43:37am |
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:44:04am |
re: #44 jamesfirecat
Well I still feel that the supreme court is doing something wrong when they gave a ruling and then said they didn't want it to be used a precedent.
Either way the 2000 election was a much closer election then the 2008 election. We can agree on that right?
oh, no question. they're not even comparable.
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windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:44:52am |
re: #51 stevemcg
OR. I work grave tho, so my sleep schedule is wonky; if that's why you're asking ;)
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Stanghazi Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:45:15am |
re: #49 windsagio
I'm hoping That Charles puts up a feed of Obama's speech, unless I got my times wrong and missed it.
I set my alarm for this, so if I got it wrong, I'll bad sad :(
At NASA? He just landed at the Cape.
Apparently the first President since Nixon who has flown into Cape Canaveral.
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Stanghazi Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:45:43am |
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windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:45:56am |
re: #54 Stanley Sea
Awesome,and for once I actually looked it up! I have an hour :D
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Killgore Trout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:45:58am |
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:46:24am |
re: #47 stevemcg
Actually the recount was never finished. I think a newspaper looked at the ballots, but that isn't a recount. The exercise was pointless anyway because it didn't matter what the newspaper came up with, the election was decided by the court.
i don't remember the final counts, performed as you said by the media, being in dispute. as JamesFireCat said, one can be concerned about the possible precedent set without disputing that the right person ended up in the WH.
either way, courts or recount, Bush was in. i'd have a lot more sympathy if the media recounted the ballots and found that Gore would have won.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:46:31am |
re: #33 marjoriemoon
I was thinking the same thing. Particularly when I get to this one.
[Link: yfrog.com...]
CHANG IS WAT I GOT IN MY REFUND
(Who is Chang and what is he doing with him??)
It's a Twitter transcript, which reveals that this TPer is a theater director who is casting a stage production of a play about Wat Tyler's revolt to raise money for his Tea Party group. The lead role has gone to an actor called Jason Chang, hence, "Chang is Wat".
He also wants his friends to know that his plane landed safely, hence, "I got in."
And he wants his wife to let him know if he got his money back on the credit card for the "Go back To Kenya" shirt that was too small, so he asks "My refund?" (implying, 'did my refund also get in'?)
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What, me worry? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:47:04am |
re: #44 jamesfirecat
Well I still feel that the supreme court is doing something wrong when they gave a ruling and then said they didn't want it to be used a precedent.
Either way the 2000 election was a much closer election then the 2008 election. We can agree on that right?
Whenever I get into this conversation, the conservatives all point and laugh at me and call me silly moonbat. I'm a Florida voter. I'm used to my vote not counting and I'm used to being laughed at (3000 Jews voting for Buchanan? Weren't we the laughing stock....)
The recount was illegally stopped and Bush was appointed President by the Supreme Court. The Right doesn't like THAT inconvenient truth but there it is.
1000s of ballots were not counted. 1000s of ballots turned up after the election. About a dozen bags were lost at my precinct alone. People lost their jobs at the mishandling of this.
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DaddyG Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:47:05am |
re: #34 jamesfirecat
I take offense to "Feel the game was rigged " I still stand by the fact that Bush won the 2000 election by a vote of 5-4 and comparing the possible dirty business of that to 2008 blow out is flat out wrong in my opinion.
Also can you give me some examples of the Democrats
"Complain about everything the new administration is doing even though it is much the same as the previous administration to the point of condemning the same “virtues” they previously supported"
Become none come straight to the forefront of my mind if you have some examples I'll listen.
Sure: after the rebulican wins in the 90s the Dems were complaining about how the GOP was governing. The GOP were governing a lot like the Dem majority had for decades (incidently ticking off their own constituents who wanted them to halt the growth of government). That is just one example. Here in Georgia we have a Governor who spent most of his legilsative career as a moderate Dem. His style hasn't changed much over the years but his political opponents have by virtue of the GOP label he now wears.
the 2000 elections are a great example of the winning losing dynamic. The winning side claimed a legitimate win saying the protections of the system worked. If they were ruled against how much carping and whining do you think would have been made about the irregularities in the Broward County election process? A lot!
These are not R and D dynamics. They are natural organizational dynamics writ large.
Think about a losing football team after the season. Coaches are fired, players traded, accusations thrown about and even some crazy things are tried. A winning team may fill prey to hubris and not make needed changes. It is a classic pattern.
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jamesfirecat Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:47:10am |
re: #52 Aceofwhat?
oh, no question. they're not even comparable.
Great glad to hear it I love when we can come to agreements here on LGF since 95% of us are quite reasonable people give or take a margin of troll.
So can somebody find some examples for me of the democrats...
"Complain about everything the new administration is doing even though it is much the same as the previous administration to the point of condemning the same “virtues” they previously supported"
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:47:27am |
re: #49 windsagio
I'm hoping That Charles puts up a feed of Obama's speech, unless I got my times wrong and missed it.
I set my alarm for this, so if I got it wrong, I'll bad sad :(
it's 2:30EST, 11:30PST, isn't it? i think you're ok.
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windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:47:32am |
re: #55 Stanley Sea
Hah, I"m sure this means something; my first thought was '2 guys?' :D
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jamesfirecat Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:48:43am |
re: #58 Aceofwhat?
i don't remember the final counts, performed as you said by the media, being in dispute. as JamesFireCat said, one can be concerned about the possible precedent set without disputing that the right person ended up in the WH.
either way, courts or recount, Bush was in. i'd have a lot more sympathy if the media recounted the ballots and found that Gore would have won.
Wikipedia seems to say that if you look at their chart it all depends on how you "counted" which votes to count.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Review method
Review of all ballots statewide (never undertaken)
• Standard as set by each county canvassing board during their survey Gore by 171
• Fully punched chad and limited marks on optical ballots
Gore by 115
• Any dimples or optical mark
Gore by 107
• One corner of chad detached or optical mark
Gore by 60
Review of limited sets of ballots (initiated but not completed)
• Gore request for recounts of all ballots in Broward, Miami-Dade, Palm Beach, and Volusia counties
Bush by 225
• Florida Supreme Court of all undervotes statewide
Bush by 430
• Florida Supreme Court as being implemented by the counties, some of whom refused and some counted overvotes as well as undervotes Bush by 493
Unofficial recount totals
• Incomplete result when the Supreme Court stayed the recount (December 9, 2000)
Bush by 154
Certified Result (official final count)
• Recounts included from Volusia and Broward only
Bush by 537
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windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:48:53am |
re: #62 jamesfirecat
Ace is one of the good ones, seems. He likes to argue and has a bit of the internet jokester in him.
*not that I'm saying anyone else ISN"T one of the good ones, but I really like hte cut of his jib usually :D
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What, me worry? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:49:11am |
re: #59 SanFranciscoZionist
It's a Twitter transcript, which reveals that this TPer is a theater director who is casting a stage production of a play about Wat Tyler's revolt to raise money for his Tea Party group. The lead role has gone to an actor called Jason Chang, hence, "Chang is Wat".
He also wants his friends to know that his plane landed safely, hence, "I got in."
And he wants his wife to let him know if he got his money back on the credit card for the "Go back To Kenya" shirt that was too small, so he asks "My refund?" (implying, 'did my refund also get in'?)
heheh so very cryptic. You're amazing.
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darthstar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:49:39am |
Taxes are the lowest they've been in 60 years. Someone please go tell these teabaggers to go fuck themselves.
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windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:50:20am |
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stevemcg Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:51:15am |
re: #69 windsagio
I agree. It's going to have to be done. I can't see how we can cut our way to a balanced budget.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:51:29am |
re: #62 jamesfirecat
Great glad to hear it I love when we can come to agreements here on LGF since 95% of us are quite reasonable people give or take a margin of troll.
So can somebody find some examples for me of the democrats...
"Complain about everything the new administration is doing even though it is much the same as the previous administration to the point of condemning the same “virtues” they previously supported"
agree completely.
would the quiet continuation of many Bush-era policies, vis-a-vis the fight against terrorism, be a good answer to your question?
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darthstar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:51:38am |
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reine.de.tout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:51:47am |
re: #47 stevemcg
Actually the recount was never finished. I think a newspaper looked at the ballots, but that isn't a recount. The exercise was pointless anyway because it didn't matter what the newspaper came up with, the election was decided by the court.
I don't agree with you that the election was decided by the court.
If you're making a point that it would have been better had the election been decided by a newspaper's recount rather than the legal process in place and used by Gore as well as by Bush, well, I may have to agree with you on that one.
/
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stevemcg Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:52:08am |
re: #72 darthstar
It's not stealing, please, it's research.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:52:39am |
If anyone thought the crazy signs wouldn't turn up at this tea party, think again.
[Link: www.flickr.com...]
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darthstar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:53:06am |
re: #33 marjoriemoon
I was thinking the same thing. Particularly when I get to this one.
[Link: yfrog.com...]
CHANG IS WAT I GOT IN MY REFUND
(Who is Chang and what is he doing with him??)
I think Chang is the guy wearing the Stanley Cup hat.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:53:20am |
re: #71 Aceofwhat?
agree completely.
would the quiet continuation of many Bush-era policies, vis-a-vis the fight against terrorism, be a good answer to your question?
Actually, I think that's the flip side. An example for Democrats would be, say, agreeing that bailouts for major companies were needed, despite ragging the Republicans for their corporate welfare policies for eight years.
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Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:54:03am |
re: #76 darthstar
I think Chang is the guy wearing the Stanley Cup hat.
I thought he was the brain thing who wanted to kill the Ninja Turtles.
Nevermind, that was Krang.
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What, me worry? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:54:06am |
re: #73 reine.de.tout
I don't agree with you that the election was decided by the court.
If you're making a point that it would have been better had the election been decided by a newspaper's recount rather than the legal process in place and used by Gore as well as by Bush, well, I may have to agree with you on that one.
/
The recount should never have been stopped. That's what "initiated but not completed" means.
Bush may have won fair and square, but we will never know it.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:54:09am |
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windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:54:10am |
re: #78 Obdicut
Clearly every one of those signs is from an infiltrator. Pay attention!
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Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:54:36am |
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windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:54:45am |
re: #79 Charles
That image is the void. I'd like it if they all had that sign tho, I admit :D
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darthstar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:54:45am |
re: #75 Charles
If anyone thought the crazy signs wouldn't turn up at this tea party, think again.
[Link: www.flickr.com...]
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darthstar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:55:08am |
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Obdicut Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:55:08am |
re: #82 reine.de.tout
Ousted-- I'm wondering if that whole 'confront people with racist signs' thing is actually happening. I'm guessing not, given the prevalence of the "kenya" signs.
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lawhawk Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:55:13am |
re: #68 darthstar
The top tax rates are certainly far lower than they've been in generations at the federal level. The rates across the board are lower than they've been in a generation at the federal level.
The same can't necessarily be said at the state and local level, where the tax burden keeps rising with no end in sight.
The problem isn't the tax rate or tax revenues, but that spending has continued rising at an ever higher clip where spending isn't supported by the same level of funding. States like CA, NJ, and NY all continued spending like there's no tomorrow and revenues have fallen so short that all are looking at multibillion dollar deficits. In fact, many states would have defaulted last year - or forced to sharply curtail spending but for the stimulus package (ARRA 2009) which increased transfer payments to the states to bridge the gap for a 1-year period.
Moreover, the tax rates that we currently have for tax year 2009 and 2010 (tax year 2010 returns due April 15, 2011) will be the last of the 2001 and 2003 tax act rate reductions unless the current Administration and Congress vote to extend the current rates.
After the 2010 tax year, the rates will revert to the pre-2001 tax rates - a significant tax rate hike for many Americans who currently pay income tax and may see many of those people who are now not paying tax due to credits and deductions will see a pinch when the rates readjust in 2011.
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What, me worry? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:55:22am |
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reine.de.tout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:55:26am |
re: #81 marjoriemoon
The recount should never have been stopped. That's what "initiated but not completed" means.
Bush may have won fair and square, but we will never know it.
I can agree with that.
My response was only to stevemg's:
Actually the recount was never finished. I think a newspaper looked at the ballots, but that isn't a recount. The exercise was pointless anyway because it didn't matter what the newspaper came up with, the election was decided by the court
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Charles Johnson Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:55:31am |
Try that again:
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reine.de.tout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:55:52am |
re: #88 Obdicut
Ousted-- I'm wondering if that whole 'confront people with racist signs' thing is actually happening. I'm guessing not, given the prevalence of the "kenya" signs.
OK.
Just jumping in, trying to catch up.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:55:53am |
re: #66 windsagio
Ace is one of the good ones, seems. He likes to argue and has a bit of the internet jokester in him.
*not that I'm saying anyone else ISN"T one of the good ones, but I really like hte cut of his jib usually :D
i'd rather be judged a good human than a good conservative...but i fail often.
sigh.
such is the difficulty of the human condition. but thanks for the compliment - i greatly appreciate it-
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windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:56:01am |
bbiab, have time to get food:
I'll leave you with a random funny
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darthstar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:56:05am |
re: #89 lawhawk
"The same can't necessarily be said at the state and local level, where the tax burden keeps rising with no end in sight. "
Yes, but these fucktards aren't protesting state and local taxes. They're protesting the black guy.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:56:18am |
re: #75 Charles
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:56:22am |
re: #83 windsagio
Clearly every one of those signs is from an infiltrator. Pay attention!
The good new is that everyone carrying a weird, offensive, badly spelled, or generally stupid sign is an infiltrator.
The bad news is that there are twenty actual tea partiers at the Tea Party.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:56:26am |
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Obdicut Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:56:33am |
re: #92 Charles
Wow. There's so much going on there. First of all, I learned Congress is not part of government. Who knew?
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Olsonist Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:56:43am |
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Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:56:53am |
re: #92 Charles
Try that again:
Without the slighest sense that they are the Jar-Jar Binks in that setting.
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windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:56:56am |
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:57:12am |
re: #88 Obdicut
Ousted-- I'm wondering if that whole 'confront people with racist signs' thing is actually happening. I'm guessing not, given the prevalence of the "kenya" signs.
Why, those aren't racist! They would be just as mad if they thought he was sekretly born in Denmark and carefully raised to destroy the United States.
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Obdicut Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:57:14am |
re: #96 darthstar
If they were protesting state and local taxes, they could actually achieve some stuff, probably. But instead, they're protesting fictitious federal tax hikes.
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stevemcg Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:57:42am |
re: #73 reine.de.tout
Not my point. I was trying to say that the newspaper's recount was pointless. Besides being "post-decision" (for lack of a better way of saying it), the recounters had their own standards. I happen to think that a democratic process trumps election deadlines. In the case of a conflict, like getting the count right, the deadline should take a back seat. I can't remember a Presidential election that I dreaded more than 2000, (Except 2008!). I was telling everybody I knew that W would have been an all-time worst. And I was right. whoop de damn do.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:58:10am |
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:58:13am |
re: #92 Charles
Try that again:
Lacks a Confederate flag, otherwise excellent work. What's the flag on the bottom?
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Obdicut Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:58:22am |
re: #97 Killgore Trout
I love that, even if you accept the logic of the sign, you have to believe that McCarthy was prescient and saw the danger of Obama in the future.
Are there any Tea Party conspiracy theories that don't involve time travel?
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Killgore Trout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:58:23am |
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DaddyG Thu, Apr 15, 2010 10:58:54am |
re: #89 lawhawk Georgia has the #10 state population and the #46 per capita tax burden. It varies from State to State but as far as were concerned our State services (which have a greater draw/demand in lean economic times) are getting squeezed pretty hard. I always like to see local control over the $$
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lawhawk Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:00:43am |
re: #105 Obdicut
Not exactly fictitious - the tax rate reductions from the 2001 and 2003 federal tax acts (EGTRRA and JGTRRA) expire after 2010, meaning that the rates will increase significantly for tax year 2011 without Congressional action to adjust the rates.
That also doesn't count any other taxes being proposed or already increased by Congress and the Administration to date (such as payroll tax increases for HCR).
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:00:53am |
re: #98 SanFranciscoZionist
The good new is that everyone carrying a weird, offensive, badly spelled, or generally stupid sign is an infiltrator.
The bad news is that there are twenty actual tea partiers at the Tea Party.
And several of them are thinking of going home, because Madge's feet hurt, and Fred's blood sugar is getting low, so Carol wants to take him to lunch, and Harold got in a fight with the guy holding the Confederate flag, and keeps muttering about how he's gonna go back and punch him, and they can't see how this bunch of crazy people is going to help with fiscal responsibility anyway.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:01:05am |
re: #109 Obdicut
I love that, even if you accept the logic of the sign, you have to believe that McCarthy was prescient and saw the danger of Obama in the future.
Actually yes. Remember that Beck and the Tea Partiers are fighting a battle against the New World Order. This goes back to 1850 or so.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:01:33am |
re: #107 reine.de.tout
Anybody know what "complict" in the second line of that sign means?
Complicit? Complicated?
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:01:46am |
re: #77 SanFranciscoZionist
Actually, I think that's the flip side. An example for Democrats would be, say, agreeing that bailouts for major companies were needed, despite ragging the Republicans for their corporate welfare policies for eight years.
perhaps i should have said the lack of objection to the continuation...republicans who object to Obama's continuation of a policy are hypocrites and democrats who are silent would be as well.
in the end, your example was better. i genuflect.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:01:51am |
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Stanghazi Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:01:59am |
re: #92 Charles
Try that again:
Hmm... is that "we have a terrible resolve to correct what has been done" or "horrible resolve"
strange choice of words?
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DaddyG Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:02:16am |
re: #114 Killgore Trout
Actually yes. Remember that Beck and the Tea Partiers are fighting a battle against the New World Order. This goes back to 1850 or so.
Nostradomus is a supply sider. Really.
//mppph
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Obdicut Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:03:01am |
re: #112 lawhawk
Obama has already said that he'll keep the lower rates for the lower income brackets, and congress has shown no signs of not doing it.
This is one reason why sunset provisions are only part of a political solution-- people use the expiration of them as a political weapon.
That also doesn't count any other taxes being proposed or already increased by Congress and the Administration to date (such as payroll tax increases for HCR).
Please name those taxes 'already increased', please.
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Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:03:10am |
re: #113 SanFranciscoZionist
And several of them are thinking of going home, because Madge's feet hurt, and Fred's blood sugar is getting low, so Carol wants to take him to lunch, and Harold got in a fight with the guy holding the Confederate flag, and keeps muttering about how he's gonna go back and punch him, and they can't see how this bunch of crazy people is going to help with fiscal responsibility anyway.
Plus, the lutefisk and ambrosia just are not holding up well out in the sun, dontcha know.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:03:43am |
re: #115 SanFranciscoZionist
Complicit? Complicated?
I couldn't figure out which he meant, from the context of the rest of it.
Maybe he really meant "complict" and it's some sort of secret tea-party language.
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garhighway Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:03:45am |
re: #65 jamesfirecat
Wikipedia seems to say that if you look at their chart it all depends on how you "counted" which votes to count.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Review method
Review of all ballots statewide (never undertaken)
• Standard as set by each county canvassing board during their survey Gore by 171
• Fully punched chad and limited marks on optical ballots
Gore by 115
• Any dimples or optical mark
Gore by 107
• One corner of chad detached or optical mark
Gore by 60Review of limited sets of ballots (initiated but not completed)
• Gore request for recounts of all ballots in Broward, Miami-Dade, Palm Beach, and Volusia counties
Bush by 225
• Florida Supreme Court of all undervotes statewide
Bush by 430
• Florida Supreme Court as being implemented by the counties, some of whom refused and some counted overvotes as well as undervotes Bush by 493Unofficial recount totals
• Incomplete result when the Supreme Court stayed the recount (December 9, 2000)
Bush by 154Certified Result (official final count)
• Recounts included from Volusia and Broward only
Bush by 537
Remember the Brooks Brothers riot?
Good times.
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Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:03:50am |
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Charles Johnson Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:04:00am |
Oh, I see -- that was the front of the same TEABAGGER sign.
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Obdicut Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:04:15am |
re: #117 Charles
It's kind of a tautology, too-- isn't taxing to excess a sign of government greed, not something that leads to government greed?
I don't know who's creepier, the people who smile or the people who give the "I'm serious" stare.
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Sigma_x Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:04:18am |
Yep, FOX is right now trying to spin it so that every mis-spelled racist sign you see is the work of "infiltrators."
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DaddyG Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:04:19am |
You are making me want to put together a sign and hop down to the Capitol steps:
"ur grammer suks wurs that r Presadent!"
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Killgore Trout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:04:23am |
"I couldn't find my pantaloons. Is this outfit ok?"
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Killgore Trout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:04:42am |
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stevemcg Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:04:43am |
re: #120 Obdicut
Remember that bogus "crybaby" who said itas an Obama supporter but changed itsnd when Obama raised its taxes?
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lawhawk Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:04:51am |
First couple made $5.5 million in FY 2009 according to their just released tax return. They paid $1.8 million in taxes.
The bulk of their income was tied to book sales. $329,000 was donated to charities including CARE and UNCF. Another $1.1 million (from the Nobel Prize) was donated to 11 other charities.
Their marginal tax rate was 32.7%.
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garhighway Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:06:22am |
re: #133 lawhawk
First couple made $5.5 million in FY 2009 according to their just released tax return. They paid $1.8 million in taxes.
The bulk of their income was tied to book sales. $329,000 was donated to charities including CARE and UNCF. Another $1.1 million (from the Nobel Prize) was donated to 11 other charities.
Their marginal tax rate was 32.7%.
They paid nearly $2M in taxes?
Obviously Socialists.
Case closed.
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Obdicut Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:06:23am |
re: #132 stevemcg
There's a depressingly large number of people angry at Obama for raising their taxes, when their actual taxes have either gone down or stayed the same.
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Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:06:53am |
I'm not seeing peoples posts to replies, I have to refresh the page for them to show up.
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b_sharp Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:07:18am |
re: #60 marjoriemoon
Whenever I get into this conversation, the conservatives all point and laugh at me and call me silly moonbat. I'm a Florida voter. I'm used to my vote not counting and I'm used to being laughed at (3000 Jews voting for Buchanan? Weren't we the laughing stock...)
The recount was illegally stopped and Bush was appointed President by the Supreme Court. The Right doesn't like THAT inconvenient truth but there it is.
1000s of ballots were not counted. 1000s of ballots turned up after the election. About a dozen bags were lost at my precinct alone. People lost their jobs at the mishandling of this.
I would never laugh at you.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:07:58am |
re: #133 lawhawk
First couple made $5.5 million in FY 2009 according to their just released tax return. They paid $1.8 million in taxes.
The bulk of their income was tied to book sales. $329,000 was donated to charities including CARE and UNCF. Another $1.1 million (from the Nobel Prize) was donated to 11 other charities.
Their marginal tax rate was 32.7%.
Impressive donations, there.
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Stanghazi Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:08:21am |
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darthstar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:09:21am |
re: #135 garhighway
They paid nearly $2M in taxes?
Obviously Socialists.
Case closed.
I wonder how much Palin is paying in taxes? Oh, wait...she's a private citizen now, so her tax records aren't something we're allowed to see anymore.
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Obdicut Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:10:09am |
Wow. Call to protect Beck's first amendment rights, using the second amendment.
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wrenchwench Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:11:40am |
It's leaning on a bicycle.
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Obdicut Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:11:49am |
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reine.de.tout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:12:02am |
re: #60 marjoriemoon
Whenever I get into this conversation, the conservatives all point and laugh at me and call me silly moonbat. I'm a Florida voter. I'm used to my vote not counting and I'm used to being laughed at (3000 Jews voting for Buchanan? Weren't we the laughing stock...)
The recount was illegally stopped and Bush was appointed President by the Supreme Court. The Right doesn't like THAT inconvenient truth but there it is.
1000s of ballots were not counted. 1000s of ballots turned up after the election. About a dozen bags were lost at my precinct alone. People lost their jobs at the mishandling of this.
This conservative has not laughed at you.
My POV is different.
The recount was stopped, and the Supreme Court made decisions leading to the result of a Bush win. The Court did not appoint our President.
And it's very unfortunate, and I hope fixed now, that thousands of ballots were lost at various precincts. I don't know how that can be converted into "Bush cheated".
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What, me worry? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:12:07am |
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:12:18am |
re: #142 Obdicut
Wow. Call to protect Beck's first amendment rights, using the second amendment.
good thing, because their first amendment rights are being threat...uhhh...hang on...ok, i'm confused...
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Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:12:42am |
re: #144 Obdicut
Current events fail:
Image: 4523701006_070a97102f.jpg
Russia has had a constitution since 1993.
Yeah, but does Moscow?
/
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Sigma_x Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:13:18am |
My question is: Victoria Jackson from SNL - is she for real with her shtick, or is it like some Andy Kaufman performance art/"comedy" type-thing; like when he pretended to be a wrestler?
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bosforus Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:13:28am |
re: #142 Obdicut
Wow. Call to protect Beck's first amendment rights, using the second amendment.
I was unaware their first amendment rights were being threatened. I hate it when people take criticism as a threat to their rights. The right wing talkers are always crying about that.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:14:00am |
re: #142 Obdicut
Wow. Call to protect Beck's first amendment rights, using the second amendment.
Ugh.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:14:09am |
re: #131 Killgore Trout
As with the left-wing equivalent, I have to suspect that some people just had an outfit they wanted to wear.
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Obdicut Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:14:32am |
re: #153 SanFranciscoZionist
I think they're just about ready for WindUpBird.
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Mark Pennington Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:14:33am |
It's like all of them just woke up in 2008, looked around, and noticed that we have a political system of some kind.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:14:42am |
re: #143 wrenchwench
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lawhawk Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:14:59am |
re: #120 Obdicut
Umm... the tax changes from the HCR enacted this year are on the books and effective as per their phase in dates: the payroll tax - under the HCR - the HI tax increases 0.9% after 2012; additional FICA tax increases along with threshold adjustments hitting more taxpayers; after 2012 surtax on unearned income (3.8%); adjusted HSA definitions limiting payments (excluding over the counter drugs and items) after 2010; after July 1, 2010, indoor tanning 10% excise tax;
These aren't proposed taxes. They're the ones enacted in the current year and take effect starting this year or are scheduled to take effect in subsequent years. So, when I say "or already increased by Congress and the Administration to date " that means all those taxes that were hiked pursuant to HCR and become operative starting this year and in subsequent years.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:15:48am |
re: #141 darthstar
I wonder how much Palin is paying in taxes? Oh, wait...she's a private citizen now, so her tax records aren't something we're allowed to see anymore.
Thank God. I mean, about the private citizen part. I will GLADLY give her tax privacy in exchange for that.
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What, me worry? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:16:16am |
re: #145 reine.de.tout
This conservative has not laughed at you.
My POV is different.
The recount was stopped, and the Supreme Court made decisions leading to the result of a Bush win. The Court did not appoint our President.
And it's very unfortunate, and I hope fixed now, that thousands of ballots were lost at various precincts. I don't know how that can be converted into "Bush cheated".
Bush cheated because Katherine Harris was the Secretary of State of Florida, a Republican in Governor Jeb Bush's pocket, the president's brother. Harris stopped the recount before the votes had been counted.
Unfortunately, you're wrong. The Supreme Court appointed Bush. He was not elected.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
George W Bush v. Al Gore, 531 U.S. 98 (2000), is a landmark United States Supreme Court case decided on December 12, 2000. The case effectively resolved the 2000 presidential election in favor of George W. Bush. Only eight days earlier, the United States Supreme Court had unanimously decided the closely related case of Bush v. Palm Beach County Canvassing Board, 531 U.S. 70 (2000), and only three days earlier, had preliminarily halted the recount that was occurring in Florida.
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Obdicut Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:16:52am |
Neoconfederate asshole alert:
Image: 4523700600_d886a5886d.jpg
Deo Vindice was the motto of the Confederacy.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:17:07am |
re: #156 Killgore Trout
actually, i like the middle sign...a bit of a snarky comeback...nothing wrong with that. it's the one on the right which makes me wince. 'injustice'? really? because here i thought the elections were pretty fair and square...
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Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:17:24am |
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wrenchwench Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:17:55am |
re: #156 Killgore Trout
Given the context (their t-shirts, the other signs) it's clear they aren't infiltrators. Although the spelling is correct, they should have said "typical" instead of "average" for the proper resonance.
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Olsonist Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:17:59am |
re: #145 reine.de.tout
... I don't know how that can be converted into "Bush cheated".
Bush didn't cheat. The Republicans cheated.
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Obdicut Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:18:01am |
re: #157 lawhawk
So aside from the HCR taxes?
I'm talking about people who are upset because they claim that Obama has raised their taxes already. They're under the impression that right now they're paying more because Obama raised their taxes.
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Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:18:27am |
re: #160 Obdicut
Neoconfederate asshole alert:
Image: 4523700600_d886a5886d.jpg
Deo Vindice was the motto of the Confederacy.
Soon replaced with "OH SHIT! ITS SHERMAN!"
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Killgore Trout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:18:29am |
re: #161 Aceofwhat?
I think it's horrible of those parents to teach that little girl to embrace the racist label.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:18:58am |
re: #159 marjoriemoon
Bush cheated because Katherine Harris was the Secretary of State of Florida, a Republican in Governor Jeb Bush's pocket, the president's brother. Harris stopped the recount before the votes had been counted.
Unfortunately, you're wrong. The Supreme Court appointed Bush. He was not elected.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
George W Bush v. Al Gore, 531 U.S. 98 (2000), is a landmark United States Supreme Court case decided on December 12, 2000. The case effectively resolved the 2000 presidential election in favor of George W. Bush. Only eight days earlier, the United States Supreme Court had unanimously decided the closely related case of Bush v. Palm Beach County Canvassing Board, 531 U.S. 70 (2000), and only three days earlier, had preliminarily halted the recount that was occurring in Florida.
That says the case resolved the election.
It doesn't say the Court threw out election results and appointed the President.
The recount thing was totally confusing, and I hope to heaven whatever laws were being cited to justify this or that have been sorted out and clarified.
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wrenchwench Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:19:05am |
re: #161 Aceofwhat?
actually, i like the middle sign...a bit of a snarky comeback...nothing wrong with that. it's the one on the right which makes me wince. 'injustice'? really? because here i thought the elections were pretty fair and square...
I think you're making an assumption of snark not in evidence.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:19:06am |
re: #151 bosforus
I was unaware their first amendment rights were being threatened. I hate it when people take criticism as a threat to their rights. The right wing talkers are always crying about that.
Drives me CRAZY!
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:20:06am |
re: #155 beekiller
It's like all of them just woke up in 2008, looked around, and noticed that we have a political system of some kind.
I kind of suspect that's what happened, or at least it's the story they tell about themselves. Over and over I see, 'Frederick Blarglecrunch never cared much about politics until..."
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darthstar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:20:10am |
re: #156 Killgore Trout
How sweet...they've got their teenage daughter holding the racist sign while dad holds something about god only requiring 10%...Is he talking about what his church asks him to tithe?
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Stanghazi Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:20:23am |
re: #162 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I feel pretty, Oh, so pretty, I feel pretty and witty and bright!
His head is burning up in that gourd. On fire.
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bosforus Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:20:31am |
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Obdicut Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:21:01am |
re: #160 Obdicut
Also, it appears to be held by a Mogwai.
seriously, though, carrying around the motto of the Confederacy? Why the hell would anyone do that?
Can anyone recognize the flag she's carrying?
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:21:02am |
re: #160 Obdicut
Neoconfederate asshole alert:
Image: 4523700600_d886a5886d.jpg
Deo Vindice was the motto of the Confederacy.
Deo didn't, so maybe it's time to retire that slogan, 'kay?
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lawhawk Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:22:05am |
re: #135 garhighway
They apparently like their income just fine the way it is. Not that I can blame them any. It is such a nice amount and really doesn't even cover the amount of grief, stress, and aggravation that anyone takes as President (and of the $5.5 million, only about $400k is President Obama's actual salary, with another $50k in expenses).
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Spider Mensch Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:22:06am |
re: #160 Obdicut
Neoconfederate asshole alert:
Image: 4523700600_d886a5886d.jpg
Deo Vindice was the motto of the Confederacy.
motto for 2010 meet ups.. veni, vidi, vaci.."I came, I saw, I dropped my corndog in the dirt"
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:22:10am |
re: #172 darthstar
How sweet...they've got their teenage daughter holding the racist sign while dad holds something about god only requiring 10%...Is he talking about what his church asks him to tithe?
Probably.
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darthstar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:22:21am |
re: #175 Obdicut
Also, it appears to be held by a Mogwai.
seriously, though, carrying around the motto of the Confederacy? Why the hell would anyone do that?
Can anyone recognize the flag she's carrying?
Well, it is Confederate "Slavery was a myth" History Month.
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wrenchwench Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:22:31am |
re: #172 darthstar
How sweet...they've got their teenage daughter holding the racist sign while dad holds something about god only requiring 10%...Is he talking about what his church asks him to tithe?
It's the arrogance of Obama wanting to tax more than God Himself does. /
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lawhawk Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:22:58am |
re: #175 Obdicut
And they're out in daylight? I guess we're okay that they aren't feeding it... just yet...
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:23:18am |
re: #175 Obdicut
Also, it appears to be held by a Mogwai.
seriously, though, carrying around the motto of the Confederacy? Why the hell would anyone do that?
Can anyone recognize the flag she's carrying?
That's the Confederate National Flag.
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Fozzie Bear Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:23:31am |
re: #96 darthstar
Furthermore, if state and local taxes are the issue, why are they in D.C.?
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Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:24:25am |
Kiss of Death decides to latch onto Romney
Mitt Romney-Sarah Palin in 2012? You betcha!
Conservative superstar Sarah Palin opened the door yesterday to joining forces with Mitt Romney for a 2012 White House run - a hot ticket that has some Republicans licking their chops at the prospect of unseating President Obama.
“Sounds pretty good,” Palin declared at yesterday’s Tea Party Express rally on the Common when asked about pairing up with the former Bay State governor - giving the idea a big thumbs-up as she left the stage after her headline speech.
Last night, as Palin stopped for cannoli at Mike’s Pastry in the North End, she said she was “serious” about the idea.
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darthstar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:24:27am |
re: #186 Fozzie Bear
Furthermore, if state and local taxes are the issue, why are they in D.C.?
Television Cameras. These are people who were rejected by the Jerry Springer show.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:24:53am |
re: #159 marjoriemoon
the case halted the recount. it did not declare a winner contrary to the existing tally of votes. Reine is factually correct.
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windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:25:11am |
re: #180 SanFranciscoZionist
I"d go with 'certainly'.
Also, am I projecting, or does the daughter have a kind of pained expression?
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:25:32am |
re: #187 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Kiss of Death decides to latch onto Romney
I'm having a terribly image of Romney in business suit and antlers, caught in the headlights of Palin's SUV.
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darthstar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:25:37am |
re: #187 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Kiss of Death decides to latch onto Romney
Kiss of death for Romney, too. I know the guy's got shit for standards, but even he wouldn't want to get the full McCain treatment by running with Palin.
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Obdicut Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:26:12am |
re: #185 Alouette
You have the flag-fu, Aloutte. Thank you. So yeah, a full-blown goddamn Confederate-- with a mod haircut. I didn't think I'd see that.
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windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:26:13am |
re: #192 darthstar
Romney is so boned anyways.
Even if he weren't mormon, the teabaggers are gonna chew him up and spit him out.
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darthstar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:26:26am |
re: #190 windsagio
I"d go with 'certainly'.
Also, am I projecting, or does the daughter have a kind of pained expression?
It's just that "I hope my friends don't see this bullshit my parents are dragging me into" look.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:26:52am |
re: #167 Killgore Trout
I think it's horrible of those parents to teach that little girl to embrace the racist label.
i seriously doubt that sign is intended as anything other than tongue-in-cheek sarcasm. "yeah, we're just another racist family/"
they forgot the sarc tag, but i'll bet you a Chimay it's sarcasm.
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What, me worry? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:26:54am |
re: #168 reine.de.tout
That says the case resolved the election.
It doesn't say the Court threw out election results and appointed the President.The recount thing was totally confusing, and I hope to heaven whatever laws were being cited to justify this or that have been sorted out and clarified.
They didn't throw out the results. They counted up to a point and then stopped counting when there were 1000s of votes left to count.
Why? Why not count them all? Time? Took too much time? Hellofa reason.
What makes me madder than what actually happened is the laughing and ridiculing by the Right over this. I'm not saying you personally, of course, but the fact that none of this disturbed the Republicans was just horrifying to me. It was more important to get it over with than get it done right.
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Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:28:07am |
re: #194 windsagio
Romney is so boned anyways.
Even if he weren't mormon, the teabaggers are gonna chew him up and spit him out.
The far right wing will destroy him if he doesn't pander to them, and if he does, he looses out on people who might have otherwise voted for him otherwise.
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darthstar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:28:13am |
re: #196 Aceofwhat?
i seriously doubt that sign is intended as anything other than tongue-in-cheek sarcasm. "yeah, we're just another racist family/"
they forgot the sarc tag, but i'll bet you a Chimay it's sarcasm.
Sure, it's sarcasm...I caught that myself. But they're also throwing it out there in an "I dare you to call my kid a racist" way...totally classless.
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windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:28:21am |
re: #196 Aceofwhat?
Of course, but its still retarded, and totally humiliating for the kid >>
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reine.de.tout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:28:35am |
re: #197 marjoriemoon
Yes, I would have much preferred to see a full recount, actually, EVEN by a newspaper!
But, it didn't happen.
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Stanghazi Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:29:20am |
re: #201 windsagio
Of course, but its still retarded, and totally humiliating for the kid >>
She got out of school. Probably boils down to that.
Unless she's on spring break, then she's really pissed.
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wrenchwench Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:29:47am |
re: #196 Aceofwhat?
i seriously doubt that sign is intended as anything other than tongue-in-cheek sarcasm. "yeah, we're just another racist family/"
they forgot the sarc tag, but i'll bet you a Chimay it's sarcasm.
Those aware of the dangers of snark use the tag here. Out in the real world, there is no tag. It's pretty risky to think viewers of your sign will give you the benefit of the doubt. Since they're at a Tea Bag event, there's way too much doubt in my mind.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:29:56am |
re: #169 wrenchwench
I think you're making an assumption of snark not in evidence.
since we don't know, i'm quite happy to be the one who assumes snark rather than racism if there is insufficient evidence. assuming racism with insufficient evidence is one of my least favorite pastimes.
there is enough actual racism. presuming it in the face of insufficient evidence serves no good purpose that i can divine, and i can divine a lot. (you should see me with a forked wooden stick/)
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windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:30:11am |
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What, me worry? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:30:19am |
re: #189 Aceofwhat?
the case halted the recount. it did not declare a winner contrary to the existing tally of votes. Reine is factually correct.
If the case halted the recount and not all the votes were counted, how the hell was he elected then??
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darthstar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:30:34am |
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Stanghazi Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:30:36am |
re: #206 windsagio
Then again, she's probably homeschooled.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:30:48am |
re: #194 windsagio
Romney is so boned anyways.
Even if he weren't mormon, the teabaggers are gonna chew him up and spit him out.
If he runs with Palin, what then?
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lawhawk Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:30:58am |
re: #165 Obdicut
They're under the impression that they're going to be taxed more in years to come - because all this spending (from the stimulus package for example) is going to result in the need to increase tax revenues somewhere - meaning higher taxes into the future. The only tax hike I've seen that I can recall off the top of my head was an additional federal excise tax on tobacco to cover SCHIP. The adjustment in withholding done in 2009 may result in higher tax obligations this year because the calculations may have resulted in insufficient withholding, but that's not a tax hike.
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Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:31:22am |
re: #207 marjoriemoon
If the case halted the recount and not all the votes were counted, how the hell was he elected then??
The point being "recount". You simply say the previous count was valid and end it there.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:31:43am |
re: #200 darthstar
Sure, it's sarcasm...I caught that myself. But they're also throwing it out there in an "I dare you to call my kid a racist" way...totally classless.
not everyone here thinks it's sarcasm...so perhaps the sign is more necessary than we originally thought?
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:31:43am |
re: #196 Aceofwhat?
i seriously doubt that sign is intended as anything other than tongue-in-cheek sarcasm. "yeah, we're just another racist family/"
they forgot the sarc tag, but i'll bet you a Chimay it's sarcasm.
I think you're right. I just don't like people who whine about how they're going to be thought racists no matter what, blah, blah...
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windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:31:44am |
re: #209 Stanley Sea
lol :p
Your post made me think, its not right for me to 'use' the kid any more than it is for the parents, altho that wasn't the intention.
That triad of signs is utterly stupid anyways, regardless of what the kid thinks :P
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MandyManners Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:31:52am |
re: #211 lawhawk
They're under the impression that they're going to be taxed more in years to come - because all this spending (from the stimulus package for example) is going to result in the need to increase tax revenues somewhere - meaning higher taxes into the future. The only tax hike I've seen that I can recall off the top of my head was an additional federal excise tax on tobacco to cover SCHIP. The adjustment in withholding done in 2009 may result in higher tax obligations this year because the calculations may have resulted in insufficient withholding, but that's not a tax hike.
What about the expiration of Pres. Bush's tax cut?
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Obdicut Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:31:58am |
re: #205 Aceofwhat?
I've never met a single person who sarcastically or satirically said, "Oh, sure, I'm a racist," who actually wasn't.
It's something I actually associate with racists, the attempt to satirize in that manner.
This is, of course, anecdotal evidence, but I think a lot of people feel the same way; another reason why the sign is pretty damn dumb.
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Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:32:05am |
re: #210 SanFranciscoZionist
If he runs with Palin, what then?
Then he loses the moderates and independents who are disgusted with Palin.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:32:21am |
re: #197 marjoriemoon
They didn't throw out the results. They counted up to a point and then stopped counting when there were 1000s of votes left to count.
Why? Why not count them all? Time? Took too much time? Hellofa reason.
What makes me madder than what actually happened is the laughing and ridiculing by the Right over this. I'm not saying you personally, of course, but the fact that none of this disturbed the Republicans was just horrifying to me. It was more important to get it over with than get it done right.
Let me just say that if a Democrat had been gotten in by similar means, I think reactions would have been very different.
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What, me worry? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:32:22am |
re: #207 marjoriemoon
If the case halted the recount and not all the votes were counted, how the hell was he elected then??
Like the Iraq war, this is old news and no one wants to rehash it. Every time I do, I just sound like a crazy broken record to those who want to believe what they want to believe.
It's done, it's over, it doesn't matter anymore. Unless of course it happens again.
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comradebillyboy Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:32:40am |
re: #6 Dreggas
They're the teabaggee not the teebagger so the jokes really on them.
I stand corrected, they are in fact on the receiving end of the bag, and the joke really is on them.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:32:40am |
The Fox News live stream of the DC rally is finally operational....
[Link: interactive.foxnews.com...]
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windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:32:49am |
re: #210 SanFranciscoZionist
lol I dunno, I kinda think they wouldn't stand for it.
More to the point, he won't make it to the step of picking a VP. Palin/Romney would be interesting tho' >>
*above are of course all my opinions.
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lawhawk Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:32:50am |
re: #216 MandyManners
Already addressed above (see my 112).
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What, me worry? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:32:57am |
re: #219 SanFranciscoZionist
Let me just say that if a Democrat had been gotten in by similar means, I think reactions would have been very different.
LOL you said a mouthful sistah.
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Stanghazi Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:33:18am |
re: #217 Obdicut
I've never met a single person who sarcastically or satirically said, "Oh, sure, I'm a racist," who actually wasn't.
It's something I actually associate with racists, the attempt to satirize in that manner.
This is, of course, anecdotal evidence, but I think a lot of people feel the same way; another reason why the sign is pretty damn dumb.
The same folks who want proof of racism.
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windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:33:47am |
re: #217 Obdicut
I've never met a single person who sarcastically or satirically said, "Oh, sure, I'm a racist," who actually wasn't.
Reqouted for freakin' truth.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:33:58am |
re: #217 Obdicut
I've never met a single person who sarcastically or satirically said, "Oh, sure, I'm a racist," who actually wasn't.
It's something I actually associate with racists, the attempt to satirize in that manner.
This is, of course, anecdotal evidence, but I think a lot of people feel the same way; another reason why the sign is pretty damn dumb.
Oh sure... I'm a racist.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:34:02am |
re: #222 Killgore Trout
The Fox News live stream of the DC rally is finally operational...
[Link: interactive.foxnews.com...]
Oops, I was working for a few minutes. Now cut off.
Anyone have a working live stream?
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windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:34:41am |
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Obdicut Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:36:27am |
re: #211 lawhawk
They're under the impression that they're going to be taxed more in years to come
Oh, that's awesome, you're psychic! I didn't know that! Can you tell us more about the impressions they're under?
Both things are true: they're angry at spending-- though they can't actually specify any significant cuts they want made, so that's great-- and large numbers of them believe their taxes have already gone up, when they haven't. Hell, only twelve percent of Americans know they got any tax relief, and a full quarter of Americans think their taxes went up. But Tea Party attendees believe it in larger numbers-- forty-four percent believe that their taxes went up.
Of people who support the grassroots, "Tea Party" movement, only 2 percent think taxes have been decreased, 46 percent say taxes are the same, and a whopping 44 percent say they believe taxes have gone up.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:36:47am |
re: #217 Obdicut
I've never met a single person who sarcastically or satirically said, "Oh, sure, I'm a racist," who actually wasn't.
It's something I actually associate with racists, the attempt to satirize in that manner.
This is, of course, anecdotal evidence, but I think a lot of people feel the same way; another reason why the sign is pretty damn dumb.
that's fine. like i said, i generally try to assume the best of someone when the evidence is insufficient and be proven wrong than assume the worst and be proven wrong. i may well be wrong here.
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Obdicut Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:36:55am |
re: #228 Walter L. Newton
No, you just like to try to get into arguments and pick fights. I don't think you've got a racist bone in your body.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:37:01am |
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Mark Pennington Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:37:41am |
OT: My wife just called to tell me that I'm going to be a DAD!!!!!!! *faints*
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CuriousLurker Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:37:51am |
OT: I don't know if it's considered bad form to post something from downstairs, but I'm going to take my chances as I thought the thread was already dead and only saw it because I accidentally clicked on the link. My very American blood is boiling at the moment, so hopefully I'll be pardoned if I'm breaking protocol.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
re: #717 martinsmithy
Don't know if anyone has posted this yet:
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
Those who are willing to convert to Christianity and renounce Islam, Allah, Mohammed and the Koran may be welcomed, for they can become not just good Christians but true Americans.
Note to American Family Association's Bryan Fischer: Try jumping on the clue train next time it rolls into town, you smug, self-righteous, ignorant little jackass. WTF are you planning to repatriate me to, Texas? We. Are. Not. Leaving. Got that? If you're uncomfortable me or anyone else being American and Muslim that's your freaking problem. Deal with it, 'kay?
I defy you and any other bigoted slimebag to prove how you have more of a right to call yourself a "true American" than I do. My ancestors came here nearly 200 years ago; they worked and struggled every bit as hard as yours did to build a life here. Members of my family have served honorably in defense of this country in just about every war fought since they arrived. In case you don't understand what that means, it means that they put their lives on the line so I and the rest of my fellow Americans could remain free—that includes the freedom to be Muslim if we so desire. If you don't like that concept, then why don't YOU leave and go create your own totalitarian state where you get to dictate what everyone should think, say and do?
Oh, what, 9/11? Newsflash: That horrific attack didn't only happen to certain segments of American society, it happened to all of us, including American Muslims. The difference is that no one started questioning your patriotism or hurling insults at you afterward.
You know what else? Suicide bombers don't give a rat's ass who they kill when they fly planes into buildings. What, do you think they radioed ahead to make sure there were no Muslims in the towers before slaughtering 2,973 innocents? FYI, any Muslim who disagrees with their twisted agenda is considered every bit as much an enemy as non-Muslims. Had I not been laid off from my job in Manhattan in February 2001, I would have been on a train inside the WTC when the first plane hit.
Maybe you're just scared of another terrorist attack and think that your dumbass "convert or be repatriated" idea will keep you safe. It won't—if there are serious sleeper cells here, they probably look a lot more like you than me, and I doubt they'll be careless enough to broadcast that they're Muslim. You probably believe that all Muslims are in cahoots with each other on the terrorism thing, don'tcha? That's total nonsense, but I'll tell you what isn't nonsense: In conjunction with law enforcement, the Muslim community in the U.S. is your best defense against terrorists. Not because they tell us what they're going to do (that's absurd), and not because we "think like them" and therefore understand their mindset, but because we understand far better than any non-Muslim could how truly dangerous that mindset is. Most of us are also equipped with a sound enough understanding of our faith to notice subtle indications of something being "off".
Here's a novel idea: Try putting on your man panties and scraping together what little gray matter is left inside your cranium so you can think clearly instead of calling for the punishment innocent people due to your craven ignorance. 'Cause you know what? When you say crap like that you sound a lot more the terrorists than a "true American.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:38:06am |
re: #219 SanFranciscoZionist
Let me just say that if a Democrat had been gotten in by similar means, I think reactions would have been very different.
Possibly so, but I personally don't care to speculate, even about what my own take would be in that situation, because I cannot know what I WOULD have done in a situation that doesn't exist. What I do hope is that processes have been refined to the point where it's never put to the test.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:38:11am |
re: #233 Obdicut
No, you just like to try to get into arguments and pick fights. I don't think you've got a racist bone in your body.
yeah, but now you know someone who said it and wasn't/
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Killgore Trout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:38:32am |
re: #235 beekiller
OT: My wife just called to tell me that I'm going to be a DAD!!! *faints*
Congratulations!
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reine.de.tout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:38:35am |
re: #235 beekiller
OT: My wife just called to tell me that I'm going to be a DAD!!! *faints*
Great news!
You will enjoy it!
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windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:39:21am |
re: #240 Aceofwhat?
counterpoints immediately following the proposition, while Walter's mainstay, hardly count :P
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Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:39:26am |
re: #235 beekiller
OT: My wife just called to tell me that I'm going to be a DAD!!! *faints*
NO NO NO! You're supposed to say your wife called and said she was pregnant so we could all make the "Cool, who is the father?" jokes.
Congratulations.
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Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:39:34am |
re: #228 Walter L. Newton
Oh sure... I'm a racist.
Sorry, I was ironing my hood and robes, did you say something?
/
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darthstar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:39:40am |
re: #235 beekiller
OT: My wife just called to tell me that I'm going to be a DAD!!! *faints*
Congratulations! There's an app for that!
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Obdicut Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:39:48am |
re: #240 Aceofwhat?
Yep. Now I can say, "The only people who satirically called themselves racists who weren't racists were trying to make this phrase longer and more awkward to say after I'd made the assertion I didn't know anyone who satirically called themselves racists who weren't."
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Killgore Trout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:39:49am |
America! Your hands are covered with blood!
Right next to the Oathkeepers stall.
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Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:40:06am |
re: #235 beekiller
Congratulations!
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windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:40:34am |
re: #248 Obdicut
We could generalize it to 'bigots' too. Plenty of people around who are quite bigoted, but not technically racist >>
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:41:15am |
re: #236 CuriousLurker
FWIW, as a Christian, i'm with you. That guy can pack his shit up and move to Antarctica. I want you in my America, not pretend Christians like that ass.
just my .02-
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Dom Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:41:49am |
vOT,
I would have thought the news would be especially full of comment on the Polish air disaster, given the strength of suspicion Putin did it (although Putin apparently knows exactly what caused the incident without the need to wait for evidence, and tells us it couldn't have been him). But the media, even Drudge, seem happy to relegate it to yesterday's news. Amazing! A more popular PM and we might have expected much sabre-rattling. Even so it doesn't add up. Or rather, it does...
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:42:04am |
re: #243 windsagio
counterpoints immediately following the proposition, while Walter's mainstay, hardly count :P
i know. but they're funny. so there's that;)
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Mark Pennington Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:42:54am |
re: #244 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
NO NO NO! You're supposed to say your wife called and said she was pregnant so we could all make the "Cool, who is the father?" jokes.
Congratulations.
Thank you! I'm so happy and hope you all have a wonderful day. I have to go and do a dance or something.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:42:55am |
re: #248 Obdicut
Yep. Now I can say, "The only people who satirically called themselves racists who weren't racists were trying to make this phrase longer and more awkward to say after I'd made the assertion I didn't know anyone who satirically called themselves racists who weren't."
/was that so hard??
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Obdicut Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:43:33am |
re: #236 CuriousLurker
And a very pragmatic point about the Muslim-American community being our best defense against terrorism.
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Renaissance_Man Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:43:42am |
re: #211 lawhawk
They're under the impression that they're going to be taxed more in years to come - because all this spending (from the stimulus package for example) is going to result in the need to increase tax revenues somewhere - meaning higher taxes into the future.
They're right.
The painful truth is that US deficit spending has resulted in a level of debt that is a very real problem. And it's the result of spending that has been that way for 30 years or more now, not just this decade. At some point, there must be a reckoning. At some point, taxes will have to be raised, to levels that are probably unthinkable right now, perhaps even to levels similar to WWII. At some point, real spending cuts will have to be made, not just comparatively trivial hot-button cuts like 'government waste', or 'education', or 'arts', but to things that actually make a difference, like defence and Social Security, not to mention health care. (I might add that bringing down health care costs through things like public health insurance and a national pharmacy effectively amount to spending cuts.) Nobody wants to be the one to do such politically suicidal things, but at some point they will have to be done.
America will do it, when the time comes. I believe in America's resilience. It will be painful, and an unpleasant time, but it will be done.
That doesn't change the fact that these Tea Party rallies are not about real anger at government spending and political will. They are manufactured events to fit the narrative. Had Republicans won in 2008, you wouldn't see a single Tea Party.
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DaddyG Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:44:03am |
re: #235 beekiller
OT: My wife just called to tell me that I'm going to be a DAD!!! *faints*
Act surprised why don't ya? Like you weren't there when it happened.
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What, me worry? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:44:06am |
re: #212 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
The point being "recount". You simply say the previous count was valid and end it there.
You got me laughing so hard upthread on non-Bush election stuff. I'll just leave this alone for now :)
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wrenchwench Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:44:07am |
re: #236 CuriousLurker
Excellent rant. Definitely worth posting to the live thread, IMHO.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:44:33am |
re: #235 beekiller
OT: My wife just called to tell me that I'm going to be a DAD!!! *faints*
congratulations! the best and hardest job in the world, it is-
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DaddyG Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:45:14am |
If the Commies and Neo-Confederates are squaring off at the edge of the Tea Party who will be left to man the Meth stills? /
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Killgore Trout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:45:28am |
re: #253 Obdicut
The DC rallies always bring out the abortion folks with the graphic signs for some reason.
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DaddyG Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:46:03am |
re: #268 Killgore Trout
The DC rallies always bring out the abortion folks with the graphic signs for some reason.
Those color enlargements are expensive. You've got to make them last. //
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Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:46:20am |
re: #266 DaddyG
If the Commies and Neo-Confederates are squaring off at the edge of the Tea Party who will be left to man the Meth stills? /
OT: So DaddyG, I am at about 65,000 words on Book 1. Woohoo.
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Renaissance_Man Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:46:31am |
re: #235 beekiller
Good luck. Just bear in mind that the hospital doesn't allow you to return them. Even if you keep the receipts.
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sagehen Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:47:48am |
re: #65 jamesfirecat
Wikipedia seems to say that if you look at their chart it all depends on how you "counted" which votes to count.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Review method
Review of all ballots statewide (never undertaken)
• Standard as set by each county canvassing board during their survey Gore by 171
• Fully punched chad and limited marks on optical ballots
Gore by 115
• Any dimples or optical mark
Gore by 107
• One corner of chad detached or optical mark
Gore by 60Review of limited sets of ballots (initiated but not completed)
• Gore request for recounts of all ballots in Broward, Miami-Dade, Palm Beach, and Volusia counties
Bush by 225
• Florida Supreme Court of all undervotes statewide
Bush by 430
• Florida Supreme Court as being implemented by the counties, some of whom refused and some counted overvotes as well as undervotes Bush by 493Unofficial recount totals
• Incomplete result when the Supreme Court stayed the recount (December 9, 2000)
Bush by 154Certified Result (official final count)
• Recounts included from Volusia and Broward only
Bush by 537
Which of course doesn't count the thousands upon thousands of black voters who were wrongfully denied their right to vote at all. I think it's safe to assume at least 85% of them would have voted Gore.
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darthstar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:47:50am |
re: #268 Killgore Trout
The DC rallies always bring out the abortion folks with the graphic signs for some reason.
Television Cameras. These are the people even Jerry Springer won't put on the air.
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windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:48:09am |
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Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:48:44am |
re: #268 Killgore Trout
The DC rallies always bring out the abortion folks with the graphic signs for some reason.
Cocksuckers like that were blocking a clinic I was trying to take my daughter too as an infant once. Fucking self righteous bastards, every damn one of them.
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Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:50:52am |
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Fozzie Bear Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:53:02am |
OT:
Whats the proper method for linking an image found on another website?
1: just link to the image.
2: download it, put in on photobucket or similar site, link to that.
3: ??
I ask primarily because the photobucket method seems unwieldy, and linking directly from a small blog or something like that might generate alot more traffic than some poor sap's little home server can handle.
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sagehen Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:54:10am |
re: #145 reine.de.tout
This conservative has not laughed at you.
My POV is different.
The recount was stopped, and the Supreme Court made decisions leading to the result of a Bush win. The Court did not appoint our President.
And it's very unfortunate, and I hope fixed now, that thousands of ballots were lost at various precincts. I don't know how that can be converted into "Bush cheated".
The secretary of state, in charge of running the election, was the Bush campaign chair. And she disenfranchised many thousands of voters, wrongfully, and only from precincts that are overwhelmingly Democrat.
Katherine Harris absolutely cheated.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:54:32am |
re: #271 Renaissance_Man
Good luck. Just bear in mind that the hospital doesn't allow you to return them. Even if you keep the receipts.
Also, the do not come with an Instruction Book.
I just followed my heart . . .
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Sigma_x Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:54:40am |
Anyone seen this yet? Perhaps the lamest thing you will ever lay eyes and ears on. Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you...
The Tea Party Rap. Enjoy.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:54:45am |
re: #277 Fozzie Bear
OT:
Whats the proper method for linking an image found on another website?
1: just link to the image.
2: download it, put in on photobucket or similar site, link to that.
3: ??I ask primarily because the photobucket method seems unwieldy, and linking directly from a small blog or something like that might generate alot more traffic than some poor sap's little home server can handle.
You email me the URL or the image and deposit 10 dollars in my PayPal account. I take care of the rest.
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Obdicut Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:54:52am |
re: #277 Fozzie Bear
Don't hotlink if the picture comes from some place it might be changed, is a good rule of thumb.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:56:26am |
re: #281 Sigma_x
Anyone seen this yet? Perhaps the lamest thing you will ever lay eyes and ears on. Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you...
The Tea Party Rap. Enjoy.
[Video]
Wow... that's terrible... I don't blame you for being outraged... maybe you should email that to KOS... we can't let that go viral.
| 285 |
windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:56:27am |
woo, its starting >>
[Link: www.c-span.org...]
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Fozzie Bear Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:56:49am |
re: #282 Walter L. Newton
I almost want to do this just so I can imagine the look on your face.
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darthstar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:56:57am |
President Obama speaking now...let's use Fox's bandwidth:
[Link: interactive.foxnews.com...]
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:57:35am |
re: #286 Fozzie Bear
I almost want to do this just so I can imagine the look on your face.
I'm shameless... don't worry... got for it.
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Varek Raith Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:58:16am |
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Killgore Trout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:58:22am |
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windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:58:32am |
re: #287 darthstar
your window is bigger, guess that's why FOX makes the big bucks >>
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Fozzie Bear Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:58:44am |
re: #289 Walter L. Newton
Hence the 'almost'. If I weren't so damn poor, I would just to see what reaction ensues.
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Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:59:16am |
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Sigma_x Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:59:41am |
Legalize the "Constition."
[Link: www.flickr.com...]
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reine.de.tout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 11:59:50am |
re: #278 sagehen
The secretary of state, in charge of running the election, was the Bush campaign chair. And she disenfranchised many thousands of voters, wrongfully, and only from precincts that are overwhelmingly Democrat.
Katherine Harris absolutely cheated.
There were (and still are, I'm sure) laws in place dealing with recounts and deadlines for certification, etc.
Katharine Harris made her decisions after consulting with her agency's attorneys. I was not privy to the conversations they had, so I cannot say for sure one way or the other if the conversations tended toward the "How do we make this come out right for Bush?", or if they were "How do we handle this in compliance with existing laws?". If you know for sure, that's great! You know more than the rest of us do. But I don't know what happened in those meetings, or what sorts of conversations led to her decisions.
I just hope that the confusion of laws regarding deadlines, etc., has been clarified and if necessary, appropriate exceptions placed in there, so that we don't ever have to go through that again.
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Lidane Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:01:28pm |
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Locker Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:01:55pm |
You try to get out for 30 minutes, run quick and get your lunch to get back and then you run into 200 or so retired Tea Parties toting their Socialism signs and their favorite American flag apparel choking all access through Capitol Park in Sacramento.
I need my roast beef damn it. Get your Gren Breck fueled power chairs out of my way!
(rant off)
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Varek Raith Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:03:41pm |
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CuriousLurker Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:04:01pm |
re: #259 Stanley Sea
Standing ovation!
re: #260 Obdicut
And a very pragmatic point about the Muslim-American community being our best defense against terrorism.
re: #264 wrenchwench
Excellent rant. Definitely worth posting to the live thread, IMHO.
re: #267 Oh no...Sand People!
Woot!
Thanks, you guys. I tried to choke down the rant when I felt it coming on, but my outrage was threatening to blow off the top of my head if it didn't find an outlet. Now I'm gonna go eat some lunch and try to calm down...
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:04:08pm |
Since they all want to go back to the 1950's perhaps they would like to go back to the taxes that you had to pay then too? We were still paying off the war bonds then and also supporting the reconstruction of Germany and Japan almost singlehandedly.
I fail to understand all the bitching about taxes at all, not one little bit, we currently are paying the lowest overall tax rates that we have ever paid since world war two. People complain about the deficit spending and then in the same breath say that they want more tax cuts?
The two things are very obviously and logically mutually exclusive of each other, if you actually know where the majority of that deficit money goes. They want Medicare, they want medicaid, they want social security, they just don't want to have to pay for it I guess.
Perhaps they should change the Tea Party Slogan to "We want Government Benefits, But We Want Them For Free!"
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:04:10pm |
re: #277 Fozzie Bear
OT:
Whats the proper method for linking an image found on another website?
1: just link to the image.
2: download it, put in on photobucket or similar site, link to that.
3: ??I ask primarily because the photobucket method seems unwieldy, and linking directly from a small blog or something like that might generate alot more traffic than some poor sap's little home server can handle.
If it's a major site, just link to the image. If it's a small blog or a hate site like Stormfront or the stalker blog, copy the image and upload it to a share server like photobucket.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:04:18pm |
re: #296 reine.de.tout
There were (and still are, I'm sure) laws in place dealing with recounts and deadlines for certification, etc.
Katharine Harris made her decisions after consulting with her agency's attorneys. I was not privy to the conversations they had, so I cannot say for sure one way or the other if the conversations tended toward the "How do we make this come out right for Bush?", or if they were "How do we handle this in compliance with existing laws?". If you know for sure, that's great! You know more than the rest of us do. But I don't know what happened in those meetings, or what sorts of conversations led to her decisions.
I just hope that the confusion of laws regarding deadlines, etc., has been clarified and if necessary, appropriate exceptions placed in there, so that we don't ever have to go through that again.
A person's opinion is theirs to have, whatever their reasons, and they are entitled to it.
But a person's stated opinion that "Bush Cheated!", or "Harris Cheated!" is not the same thing as a proven fact.
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windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:04:25pm |
re: #300 Locker
You try to get out for 30 minutes, run quick and get your lunch to get back and then you run into 200 or so retired Tea Parties toting their Socialism signs and their favorite Confederate flag apparel choking all access through Capitol Park in Sacramento.
I need my roast beef damn it. Get your Gren Breck fueled power chairs out of my way!
(rant off)
FixT
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Fozzie Bear Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:04:32pm |
re: #299 darthstar
I am having trouble discerning what he means by this. That's a strange point to make in the context of being unemployed.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:05:40pm |
re: #287 darthstar
President Obama speaking now...let's use Fox's bandwidth:
[Link: interactive.foxnews.com...]
fwiw, i like the idea of relying more heavily on private designs for shuttles and other vehicles. it's a refreshingly conservative idea...that is, it makes good common sense!
(ok, that last part may have been over the top...)
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sagehen Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:05:41pm |
re: #181 darthstar
Well, it is Confederate "Slavery was a myth" History Month.
Ta-Nehisi Coates, the Atlantic's best blogger, has embraced Confederate History Month. ("My sole aim is, come May, to have fools begging for February, sepia photos, and those "Black History Month Moments.")
He's been posting excerpts of various states' secession declarations and the cornerstone speech (proving that it was entirely about slavery and white supremacy), pictures of emancipated slaves and their backstories (girl owned by her half-brother, fathers selling their children, free blacks from nothern states kidnapped by confederate troops and sold south), diary entries of confederate politicians outraged at hearing their commanders had lost battles to United States Colored Troops ("there must be some mistake")...
Worth checking out.
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darthstar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:05:58pm |
re: #307 Fozzie Bear
I am having trouble discerning what he means by this. That's a strange point to make in the context of being unemployed.
He's upset with the government giving him money to keep him afloat while he protests against the government?
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Locker Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:06:10pm |
re: #308 Killgore Trout
Why does Obama hate space?
/Wingnut
Mr Obama why do you hate god?
I don't hate god man.
Well god thinks you hate him and that's just as bad as hating him!
(Go Team Venture!)
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Killgore Trout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:06:48pm |
[Link: i.huffpost.com...]
The man in the bloody Obama mask is Robert Johnson, 40, a computer consultant from Chicago."I'm protesting big government," he told HuffPost at a rally in DC.
Asked if the bloodiness signified doctors getting "gouged" under Obamacare, Johnson said, "Doctors are gonna go John Galt."
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windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:07:18pm |
re: #308 Killgore Trout
I'm still waiting ot see how much he had to roll back the original (and perfect) plan >>
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Bubblehead II Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:07:22pm |
Well I am back. Not much of a gathering. About 150-200 people max. No real blatant signs or buttons were visible and the People were more than happy to let me take their picture.
Conversation in the crowd was overall polite. There was one Lady complaining about HCR and how the Dems using Reconciliation was an back door and Unconstitutional method of passing it.
The event started off with the Pledge of Allegiance and a short speech about how the "other side" were trying to shut them down. Then a group of kids sang the Star Spangled Banner.
The batteries in my camera died shortly after that so I didn't hang around.
(Note to Self: Bring extra batteries next time)
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Sigma_x Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:08:19pm |
This is my favorite picture so far from the D.C. protest. Because the guy in it is clearly pissed off, but he's also not gonna let an opportunity to show off his grandkids go to waste. Classic.
[Link: www.flickr.com...]
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Varek Raith Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:08:19pm |
re: #235 beekiller
OT: My wife just called to tell me that I'm going to be a DAD!!! *faints*
Congrats!
:)
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Locker Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:08:29pm |
re: #306 windsagio
FixT
Didn't see any Confederate flags during my run through but I saw American flag tshirts, bandanas, jackets, shawls and even two diapers. No shit... well there could have been some shit... I wonder if it's some kind of crime for a baby to let loose inside an American flag diaper.
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sagehen Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:09:11pm |
re: #207 marjoriemoon
If the case halted the recount and not all the votes were counted, how the hell was he elected then??
The secretary of state (coincidentally the Bush/Cheney Campaign's state chair) declared it to be so. The governor of the state (coincidentally the candidate's brother) declared the secretary of state to be correct.
Never mind that the State Supreme Court (none of whom were related to the candidate or the campaign) said otherwise.
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:09:29pm |
re: #277 Fozzie Bear
OT:
Whats the proper method for linking an image found on another website?
1: just link to the image.
2: download it, put in on photobucket or similar site, link to that.
3: ??I ask primarily because the photobucket method seems unwieldy, and linking directly from a small blog or something like that might generate alot more traffic than some poor sap's little home server can handle.
Do not hotlink from sites, host them yourself at photobucket or something similar. Many sites don't allow hotlinking in order to protect their bandwidth, they also use nasty scripts sometimes that substitute a vulgar or obscene image when you attempt to hotlink to their site.
If it is a major news site or something then they welcome you linking to them, with most bloggers and small site operators it is considered against net etiquette and rude.
| 323 |
Obdicut Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:09:32pm |
re: #316 Bubblehead II
Heh. I can't tell if the guy with 'no single payer' on his sign is accusing Obama of lying about single payer not being in the health care bill, or railing on Obama for saying he was for single payer and not including it.
I'm guessing the former.
| 324 |
Lidane Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:11:34pm |
re: #266 DaddyG
If the Commies and Neo-Confederates are squaring off at the edge of the Tea Party who will be left to man the Meth stills? /
Heh.
| 326 |
Varek Raith Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:12:27pm |
re: #274 windsagio
OT but cool:
This guy cares too much about SimCity, but is also too good at it to exist.
[Video]
Crazy. Though, my cities had roads.
:P
| 327 |
sagehen Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:12:37pm |
re: #235 beekiller
OT: My wife just called to tell me that I'm going to be a DAD!!! *faints*
On the phone!?!
How are you supposed to pick her up and swing her around and smother her in kisses?
| 328 |
Locker Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:13:58pm |
re: #235 beekiller
OT: My wife just called to tell me that I'm going to be a DAD!!! *faints*
Amazing and outstanding man. Congratulation and here's to a trouble free pregnancy and a health and happy baby.
| 329 |
Varek Raith Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:14:07pm |
re: #308 Killgore Trout
Why does Obama hate space?
/Wingnut
Because the Universe is out to kill us!
Really.
;)
| 331 |
windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:15:13pm |
re: #326 Varek Raith
roads are bad, they lead to congestion >>
| 332 |
watching you tiny alien kittens are Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:16:12pm |
re: #327 sagehen
On the phone!?!
How are you supposed to pick her up and swing her around and smother her in kisses?
She is giving him time to get used to the idea and show appropriate enthusiasm later perhaps. Maybe she just didn't want to see that fleeting second of "OMFG I'm doomed!" look on his face when he first heard?
| 333 |
Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:16:39pm |
re: #331 windsagio
roads are bad, they lead to congestion >>
sure, but in Sim City, the subways don't smell like pee...
| 334 |
Bubblehead II Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:16:48pm |
re: #325 Stanley Sea
Thanks. It was kinda fun. Once I got over being nervous about asking people if I could take their picture things went smoothly. That is up until the batteries died.
| 335 |
windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:16:56pm |
I kinda wish O wouldn't still be talking about Mars, but I suppose he has to right now.
| 336 |
darthstar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:17:02pm |
re: #330 Jadespring
Cool. Sending people to an asteroid.
I nominate Boehner, McConnell, Bachmann, Limbaugh and Beck.
| 337 |
Jadespring Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:17:46pm |
re: #335 windsagio
I kinda wish O wouldn't still be talking about Mars, but I suppose he has to right now.
Why not Mars?
| 338 |
b_sharp Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:17:56pm |
re: #309 Aceofwhat?
fwiw, i like the idea of relying more heavily on private designs for shuttles and other vehicles. it's a refreshingly conservative idea...that is, it makes good common sense!
(ok, that last part may have been over the top...)
Muwahawhawha...
I left some common sense in my other pants. I accidentally put it through the wash. It came out as a really messed up idea.
| 339 |
badger1970 Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:18:05pm |
re: #329 Varek Raith
Because the Universe is out to kill us!
Really.
;)
| 340 |
Sigma_x Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:18:20pm |
If you go over to Foxnation or Hotair or Malkin's site and read the comments, they're already starting to threaten an "armed revolution" if the Democrats "steal/fix/rig the elections" in November, so sure are they that they're gonna recapture the House and/or the Senate. These are the same people saying there were 13-15K people in Boston yesterday.
| 341 |
Fozzie Bear Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:19:05pm |
(Sort of) OT:
I have been thinking about the "infiltrate the TP" thing, and can't decide whether this is good for or bad for the TP movement. On the one hand, this feeds the meme that the racists are just liberal plants and aids them in dismissing criticism. On the other hand, it would feed that paranoid and fractious nature of the movement. It doesn't take much for these people to see a conspiracy or plot against them, apparently, and just the mention that there are 'liberal plants' among them might fuel the infighting so characteristic of these groups.
Either way, I think "infiltrating" them with silly signs like "Bring Back Crystal Pepsi!!!" is fine, and a funny way to make a point. However, I don't think actually trying to fool the public into thinking they are part of the movement, and marginalizing by association is cool at all. Let them marginalize themselves, I say. They are really, really good at it anyway.
Just my .02.
| 342 |
windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:19:14pm |
re: #337 Jadespring
Huge expenditure of resources for almost no gain, either scientific or otherwise.
Also, we have currently NO IDEA AT ALL of how to get someone back from Mars. Its exponentionally more difficult to reach escape velocity there as compared to the moon.
| 344 |
Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:20:04pm |
| 345 |
SpaceJesus Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:20:17pm |
stalkerblog.com is pushing the limits of crazy today i see
| 346 |
webevintage Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:20:39pm |
re: #340 Sigma_x
If you go over to Foxnation or Hotair or Malkin's site and read the comments, they're already starting to threaten an "armed revolution" if the Democrats "steal/fix/rig the elections" in November, so sure are they that they're gonna recapture the House and/or the Senate. These are the same people saying there were 13-15K people in Boston yesterday.
Idiots.
Even their math skills suck....
| 347 |
Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:20:39pm |
re: #338 b_sharp
Muwahawhawha...
I left some common sense in my other pants. I accidentally put it through the wash. It came out as a really messed up idea.
/it came out as HCR?
| 348 |
windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:21:19pm |
Kinda annoyed actually, the way Obama presents things, there's really no room for dispute >>
| 349 |
Jadespring Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:21:20pm |
re: #342 windsagio
Huge expenditure of resources for almost no gain, either scientific or otherwise.
Also, we have currently NO IDEA AT ALL of how to get someone back from Mars. Its exponentionally more difficult to reach escape velocity there as compared to the moon.
What about the creation and research that would go into an entirely new propulsion system? I would think that would be pretty useful tech to develop.
| 350 |
windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:22:49pm |
re: #349 Jadespring
true; and thats what he wants to do. I guess I just feel like we should be talking about it before we have those technologies.
Maybe I'm just sour because of Bush's effin' stupid Mars flagwaving.
| 351 |
Fozzie Bear Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:22:50pm |
re: #340 Sigma_x
If you go over to Foxnation or Hotair or Malkin's site and read the comments, they're already starting to threaten an "armed revolution" if the Democrats "steal/fix/rig the elections" in November, so sure are they that they're gonna recapture the House and/or the Senate. These are the same people saying there were 13-15K people in Boston yesterday.
This is incredibly dangerous and monstrously irresponsible. So, if their side loses, and they are 'suspicious' of the results, who among them do you think is going to concince the rest "hey look we lost fair and square guys".
This kind of talk can only have negative results.
| 352 |
Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:24:40pm |
re: #350 windsagio
true; and thats what he wants to do. I guess I just feel like we should be talking about it before we have those technologies.
Maybe I'm just sour because of Bush's effin' stupid Mars flagwaving.
he waved the flag of Mars? ok, you can question his patriotism now/
| 353 |
windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:26:23pm |
re: #352 Aceofwhat?
Now now, don't make me into something I hate and provoke a Bush-rant >>
| 355 |
Fozzie Bear Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:30:42pm |
re: #349 Jadespring
re: #350 windsagio
This reminds me of a craigslist ad:
Astronaut Needed
Date: 2009-09-14, 3:43AM MDTAstronaut needed for experimental flight to Titan. I have been working on this project now for near 40 years and am afraid I'm no longer fit enough to go.
My secret space craft is the result of my professional experience and imagination while serving the U.S. military in advanced aeronautics as a scientist.
The craft harnesses a revolutionary propulsion system and its fuselage is fabricated with the most advanced material. While considerably safe,
I am certain you will make it safely to Titan but there will not be enough fuel to get home. This is for someone unique that has always wanted to see the universe
first-hand and has perhaps a terminal view on life here at home. Here's your shot at romantic history.
Must be:
-physically fit.
-mentally sound.
-over the age of 18.
-a dreamer.
-a believer.
-not afraid of heights.
-not afraid of extreme conditions such as speed, pressure, heat, etc.
-brave.
-no taller than 5'10 and relatively slim.
-good eye-sight & hearing.
-manual dexterity (although the craft is largely cpu controlled).
-OK in cramped conditions for long periods of time.* Location: Northern Alberta
* Compensation: $25,000 CASH.
* This is a contract job.
* Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.
* Please, no phone calls about this job!
* Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.
| 357 |
cliffster Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:31:14pm |
| 358 |
Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:31:49pm |
re: #353 windsagio
Now now, don't make me into something I hate and provoke a Bush-rant >>
heh. Mars Attacks on the brain;)
| 359 |
Varek Raith Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:32:11pm |
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windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:33:42pm |
re: #358 Aceofwhat?
Like I said tho, I'm kinda sad. The OMGSPACE Beard ratio is sadly low. Oh well, I'm still really glad I heard the speech :D
| 361 |
Varek Raith Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:34:45pm |
re: #360 windsagio
Like I said tho, I'm kinda sad. The OMGSPACE Beard ratio is sadly low. Oh well, I'm still really glad I heard the speech :D
Space is very important to our future. The sooner we realize this, the better.
| 362 |
Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:34:59pm |
Kids are gonna be happy, just got the software so we can stream Netflix thru the Wii.
| 363 |
Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:35:48pm |
re: #361 Varek Raith
Space is very important to our future. The sooner we realize this, the better.
The sooner we start speading out onto every hunk of rock we can set foot on, the better.
| 364 |
windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:36:16pm |
re: #361 Varek Raith
Lol thanks! I love you man! :D
It is, but until we get some kind of major breakthrough or change in technology, manned exploration is utterly foolish. Unfortunately, its also the stuff of romantic fantasies.
| 365 |
Fozzie Bear Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:36:35pm |
| 366 |
Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:37:33pm |
re: #365 Fozzie Bear
I agree 110%, but the cost is astronomical.
(That is both a joke and serious)
We get everything back when we hit our first monolith.
| 368 |
Varek Raith Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:38:07pm |
re: #364 windsagio
Lol thanks! I love you man! :D
It is, but until we get some kind of major breakthrough or change in technology, manned exploration is utterly foolish. Unfortunately, its also the stuff of romantic fantasies.
It's our very drive towards manned exploration that will get us those breakthroughs.
:)
| 369 |
bratwurst Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:38:51pm |
re: #348 windsagio
Kinda annoyed actually, the way Obama presents things, there's really no room for dispute >>
Just wait...
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:39:18pm |
re: #368 Varek Raith
It's our very drive towards manned exploration that will get us those breakthroughs.
:)
The benefits go beyond the economic ones: this is one of things we are about - expanding our minds
| 372 |
windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:40:26pm |
re: #368 Varek Raith
Sure sure, but we should focus on GETTING THE TECHNOLOGY, rather than filling peoples heads with the wrong ideas for the short term.
Don't get me wrong, I love space exploration. I just think people are dumb/ignorant about the realities involved.
| 373 |
Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:40:40pm |
re: #339 badger1970
conservative reaction: damn, the aliens heard about the START treaty...friggin' Obama made us look soft!!
liberal reaction: I'll bet all the conservatives will blame this on Obama.
christian reaction: wait..wtf...i was supposed to be raptured BEFORE the end!!
Pat Robertson reaction: damn teh gheys! they brought the Wrath!
muslim reaction: yeah! that'll teach the Great Satan!
buddhist reaction: please don't let me come back as a fruit fly...please
jewish reaction: oh G-d, don't tell me the Christians were right...
| 374 |
Varek Raith Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:41:37pm |
re: #372 windsagio
Sure sure, but we should focus on GETTING THE TECHNOLOGY, rather than filling peoples heads with the wrong ideas for the short term.
Don't get me wrong, I love space exploration. I just think people are dumb/ignorant about the realities involved.
YOU ARE NO FUN! KILLJOY!
:P
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windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:42:19pm |
re: #374 Varek Raith
Haha I am!
Believe me, if I could just invent warpdrive or hyperspace jumps myself, I'd so be on it >>
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Killgore Trout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:42:20pm |
A demonstrator attends a 'Tax Day Tea Party' protest on April 15, 2010 in Denver, Colorado. The protester said he was hiding his identity so that the IRS would not be able to identify him. Tea Party groups held anti-government protests nationwide on the day when Americans must file their annual income tax returns.
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charlz Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:42:33pm |
re: #372 windsagio
Don't get me wrong, I love space exploration. I just think people are dumb/ignorant about the realities involved.
Personally, I'd rather see some way to ensure that the Hubble remains operational before sending manned flights into deep space.
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Jadespring Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:42:46pm |
re: #372 windsagio
Sure sure, but we should focus on GETTING THE TECHNOLOGY, rather than filling peoples heads with the wrong ideas for the short term.
Don't get me wrong, I love space exploration. I just think people are dumb/ignorant about the realities involved.
Uh the dream or goal is what drives the GETTING OF THE TECH.
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Mark Pennington Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:42:59pm |
re: #288 CarleeCork
Congrats, first one?
Yes, this is our first! We've been together for several years but only recently married. We weren't planning on a child for another year or two but despite protection...apparently it's meant to be. ;) She went to the doctor during her lunch hour for something else and found out. She planned on telling me when she got home from work but I pestered her during her phone call because she was acting so strange.
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Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:43:21pm |
re: #375 windsagio
Haha I am!
Believe me, if I could just invent warpdrive or hyperspace jumps myself, I'd so be on it >>
Bah, generational ships are where its at.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:44:06pm |
re: #341 Fozzie Bear
I think the question then leads to how this sort of group would react to some obvious ridicule a'la "Bring Back Crystal Pepsi". Besides the risk for an adverse (e.g. violent) reaction I have my doubts that this sort of criticism can gain any sort of foothold in the mindset that is maintaining the cognitive dissonance and/or outright ignorance a lot of these sign bearers appear to be suffering from.
Add to this the fact that ridicule/being fooled rarely works (at least immediately) to get someone to re-evaluate their position. Seems in most cases to trigger a reflex to circle the wagons since their ego is under direct assault.
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sagehen Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:44:34pm |
re: #373 Aceofwhat?
jewish reaction:oh G-d, don't tell me the Christians were right...ELIJAH!! You're two weeks late!
ftfy
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Fozzie Bear Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:44:58pm |
I think it's a fascinating issue. (space exploration)
On the one hand, I think mankind needs to get over the legion technological hurdles necessary for lining indefinitely in space. (i.e., colonization)
On the other hand, unless and until it becomes a trivial matter to take a load into orbit, it won't be any kind of solution to the problems we have here on Earth. I mean buy this that if Earth were threatened, it's not like we could lift an appreciable proportion of the population to safety. Maybe in a couple hundred years, however, with monumental effort.
I don't think enough people take the long view on things. I see three technological advances having monstrous impact on makind over the next few hundred years: First, true sentient A.I., later, some kind of revolution in energy generation like fusion reactors, zero point energy, what have you, and finally, the trivialization of space travel.
The thing is, I don't think the third can happen without the second, and I think we may need the first to make the second two possible.
/End random futuristic ponderings.
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:45:40pm |
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wrenchwench Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:47:01pm |
re: #379 beekiller
I pestered her during her phone call because she was acting so strange.
That's just the beginning....
Congratulations!
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:47:06pm |
re: #384 ralphieboy
Please remind this fellow that the Constitution has not yet been rescinded or suspended, his right to free assembly is still covered...
Until the police ask him to prove that he is not an illegal immigrant and he realizes that he has forgotten his wallet at home...
/
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:47:50pm |
re: #386 oaktree
Until the police ask him to prove that he is not an illegal immigrant and he realizes that he has forgotten his wallet at home...
/
as long as they have a "reasonable suspicion"
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:47:52pm |
re: #383 Fozzie Bear
there are four steps. you only list three.
1. sentient AI
2. humans = organic batteries
3. zero point energy (sadly, humans are left to wither on the vine)
4. trivial cost of space travel
it's a shame we won't be around for #4.../
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zora Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:47:56pm |
re: #384 ralphieboy
that's exactly what "they" want him to believe.
/
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Fozzie Bear Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:48:19pm |
re: #384 ralphieboy
This is what I don't get about that kind of statement. How can you stand there, exercising your constitutional rights without anyone trying to stop you, and scream what essentially amounts to "I'm being repressed!!! I'm being Repressed!!!"?
Have these people NO capacity for cognitive dissonance?
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Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:48:45pm |
Come on people, once with get an Orion drive/Bussard Ramjet hybrid ship operational, the Universe is ours!
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Killgore Trout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:48:48pm |
re: #384 ralphieboy
Please remind this fellow that the Constitution has not yet been rescinded or suspended, his right to free assembly is still covered...
Lies!
/
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Fozzie Bear Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:50:13pm |
re: #388 Aceofwhat?
HAHAHAHAHA yeah there's that too. Once we make something waaaay smarter than us, it does stand to reason it may see us an "in the way". Regardless, I think that it is pretty much inevitable in the long run that will develop the technology to make machines much, much smarter than us.
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simoom Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:50:27pm |
Here's another embrace of the term "Teabagger". From Fox Nation:
[Link: www.thefoxnation.com...]
and from Breitbart:
[Link: biggovernment.com...]
"I'm proud to be a Teabagger!"
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Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:50:33pm |
Thats assuming we haven't isolated the Navigator gene and have access to warpspace before then.
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Fozzie Bear Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:50:47pm |
re: #391 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
We just need the Infinite Improbability Drive.
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:50:47pm |
re: #391 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Come on people, once with get an Orion drive/Bussard Ramjet hybrid ship operational, the Universe is ours!
Once we get AI robots that can fill in for us, we can let them explore Mars and not worry about having to get them home
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Jadespring Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:51:14pm |
re: #383 Fozzie Bear
Well if your talking about orbital space travel that trivializing process is already occuring. Early stages yes but with the number of private companies that are working on it right now it's going to occur in the relatively near future. Some of the projects that are being worked on right now with a profit motive in mind are fascinating.
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Varek Raith Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:52:31pm |
re: #397 ralphieboy
Once we get AI robots that can fill in for us, we can let them explore Mars and not worry about having to get them home
...Until they get pissed off for leaving them there...
:)
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:52:35pm |
re: #387 ralphieboy
as long as they have a "reasonable suspicion"
Reasonable suspicion that he's an illegal immigrant, or a reasonable suspicion of whatever the policeman wants to suspect him of?
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Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:53:00pm |
re: #397 ralphieboy
Once we get AI robots that can fill in for us, we can let them explore Mars and not worry about having to get them home
By that time, we'll be busy fighting the robot holocaust and it will be too late.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:53:24pm |
re: #394 simoom
Michelle Malkin also posted that today.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:53:25pm |
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Fozzie Bear Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:53:26pm |
re: #398 Jadespring
With all due respect to their efforts, I think we are still far from trivializing space flight. We may know how to do it in a reproducible manner, but the energy requirements are still enormous. Yes, we can do it, but I would say we are pretty far from trivializing it.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:53:30pm |
re: #393 Fozzie Bear
HAHAHAHAHA yeah there's that too. Once we make something waaay smarter than us, it does stand to reason it may see us an "in the way". Regardless, I think that it is pretty much inevitable in the long run that will develop the technology to make machines much, much smarter than us.
Joker:- Great. See, this is where it starts, and when we're all just organic batteries, guess who they'll blame? "This is all Joker's fault. What a tool he was. I have to spend all day computing pi because he plugged in the Overlord."
-Mass Effect 2
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Varek Raith Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:53:45pm |
re: #401 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
By that time, we'll be busy fighting the robot holocaust and it will be too late.
I'm gonna be a cyborg. Bow before me, mortal!
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brookly red Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:54:09pm |
re: #393 Fozzie Bear
HAHAHAHAHA yeah there's that too. Once we make something waaay smarter than us, it does stand to reason it may see us an "in the way". Regardless, I think that it is pretty much inevitable in the long run that will develop the technology to make machines much, much smarter than us.
In the long run? I just got off the B train & I am pretty sure that the train is smarter than a lot of the people on it.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:54:23pm |
re: #393 Fozzie Bear
HAHAHAHAHA yeah there's that too. Once we make something waaay smarter than us, it does stand to reason it may see us an "in the way". Regardless, I think that it is pretty much inevitable in the long run that will develop the technology to make machines much, much smarter than us.
Or they adopt the cat model and simply regard us as staff, pets, and/or toys. And if they're as subtle about it as the cats we'll never know it...
;)
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:54:55pm |
re: #396 Fozzie Bear
We just need the Infinite Improbability Drive.
Oops. Did I drink the wrong cup of tea this morning???
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:55:16pm |
re: #408 oaktree
Or they adopt the cat model and simply regard us as staff, pets, and/or toys. And if they're as subtle about it as the cats we'll never know it...
;)
mrowr?
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Varek Raith Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:55:23pm |
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:55:41pm |
re: #403 WindUpBird
*sings* Somebody got a large format color printer for christmas...
well...it beats the six geese a'laying. geese poop all over the place...
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:55:43pm |
re: #401 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
By that time, we'll be busy fighting the robot holocaust and it will be too late.
"we took him in and charged him with possession of the large coffee table down at the police station (that's all we had at the time)"
-Monty Python
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Jadespring Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:56:11pm |
re: #404 Fozzie Bear
With all due respect to their efforts, I think we are still far from trivializing space flight. We may know how to do it in a reproducible manner, but the energy requirements are still enormous. Yes, we can do it, but I would say we are pretty far from trivializing it.
I guess that would depend on what your definition of trivial is. I look at it as becoming pretty trivial when a future holiday option is to spend some time in a station/hotel floating around the earth.
| 415 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:57:03pm |
crazyTPsigncrazyTPsigncrazyTPsigncrazyTPsign'ello Alice!
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ryannon Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:57:18pm |
Am I too late to post the first comment? If not, here it is:
I think that sign is really good: all the words are spelled correctly.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:57:46pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:58:10pm |
re: #417 oaktree
Is that the cat asking for another ride on the scanner? :)
Right now she's just O_O at me
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Varek Raith Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:58:37pm |
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:58:58pm |
re: #418 WindUpBird
Right now she's just O_O at me
Not quite catching enough sun to power up the CAT LASER eyes.
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Spider Mensch Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:59:36pm |
re: #379 beekiller
Yes, this is our first! We've been together for several years but only recently married. We weren't planning on a child for another year or two but despite protection...apparently it's meant to be. ;) She went to the doctor during her lunch hour for something else and found out. She planned on telling me when she got home from work but I pestered her during her phone call because she was acting so strange.
congrats..NOW..GO be with your wife!! right now! take the rest of the day off. quit pissing aroung on lgf...GO!!! kiss her hug her take her to dinner...NOW! Go!
oh and another thing...you said this is the 1st..life as you know it has changed for ever. seriously your life has just changed. and sometimes it may not seem it.. but it changes for the better!
point two..how do you feel about poopy and weewee? .mwhahahaha!!
now Go! be with your wife and again congrats!!
| 424 |
Jadespring Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:59:41pm |
Wow that Volcano is Iceland is really shutting air travel down.
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DaddyG Thu, Apr 15, 2010 12:59:49pm |
re: #367 cliffster
Do you have any idea how large the carbon footprint of a farting Tyrannasaurous Rex is?!!
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:00:01pm |
re: #418 WindUpBird
Right now she's just O_O at me
i think it's because you just said "pig bucket oak green dash"...
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:00:11pm |
re: #419 Varek Raith
You disappoint her.
:)
this happens frequently. :D
HUMAN I REQUIRE YOUR ATTENTIONS
| 428 |
Fozzie Bear Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:02:07pm |
My cat has recently discovered that if he lays on the keyboard, my computer starts beeping, and i come and pay attention to him.
Clever little fuckers.
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windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:02:13pm |
Whups, sorry guys; brain turned off for a second.
Trying to find a Volcano, Marble, and sand.
| 430 |
DaddyG Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:02:33pm |
re: #417 oaktree
Is that the cat asking for another ride on the scanner? :)
No more Kitty Pron.
Unless of course you are referring to the newest Keystone Beer ad. Rwoar indeed.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:04:03pm |
re: #430 DaddyG
No more Kitty Pron.
Unless of course you are referring to the newest Keystone Beer ad. Rwoar indeed.
??
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windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:05:37pm |
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DaddyG Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:06:31pm |
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DaddyG Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:08:05pm |
Kitty Pron is a sarcastic remark about the picture Wind Up Bird shared yesterday. Her cat sat on her scanner so she shared the results.
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Blizard Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:09:16pm |
re: #434 DaddyG
Kitty Pron is a sarcastic remark about the picture Wind Up Bird shared yesterday. Her cat sat on her scanner so she shared the results.
And it was hilarious! I'm still lmao. Teh funneh!
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sagehen Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:09:24pm |
re: #393 Fozzie Bear
HAHAHAHAHA yeah there's that too. Once we make something waaay smarter than us, it does stand to reason it may see us an "in the way". Regardless, I think that it is pretty much inevitable in the long run that will develop the technology to make machines much, much smarter than us.
| 438 |
brookly red Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:09:34pm |
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DaddyG Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:10:27pm |
re: #436 Blizard
And it was hilarious! I'm still lmao. Teh funneh!
The scanned cat butt was strikingly familiar to some scenes I've woken up to.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:10:45pm |
re: #434 DaddyG
Kitty Pron is a sarcastic remark about the picture Wind Up Bird shared yesterday. Her cat sat on her scanner so she shared the results.
Well, i know that WUB would know good kitty pron if he saw it...but i thought you had a new gem to share. that's just boring heterosexual fare...
| 441 |
DaddyG Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:13:33pm |
re: #440 Aceofwhat?
Well, i know that WUB would know good kitty pron if he saw it...but i thought you had a new gem to share. that's just boring heterosexual fare...
| 444 |
DaddyG Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:17:29pm |
re: #443 windsagio
I thought I left my banana around here somewhere?
| 445 |
Vicious Babushka Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:17:36pm |
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cliffster Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:18:17pm |
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sagehen Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:18:38pm |
re: #401 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
By that time, we'll be busy fighting the robot holocaust and it will be too late.
| 449 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:20:12pm |
re: #447 cliffster
Now that's how you get a kid interested in geography.
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darthstar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:20:51pm |
Hate to break up some good kitteh pron, but this is kind of good news:
McConnell lacks 41 votes necessary to block Wall Street Reform
McConnell has circulated a letter within the GOP conference that would have Republicans pledge to block a motion to proceed to a financial regulatory reform bill unless Democrats agree to reopen it for bipartisan negotiations.But McConnell has fallen short of the 41 signatures he needs to send Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) a clear signal.
So far, Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), a crucial swing vote, has declined to sign the letter, according to a Republican source.
| 451 |
windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:23:17pm |
re: #450 darthstar
Well that's good news. Obstructionist Bastards.
| 452 |
windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:23:33pm |
| 453 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:23:59pm |
Anarchists at the Tea Party (not kidding)
They're not "infiltrators", they're Paulians.
| 454 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:24:04pm |
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DaddyG Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:24:09pm |
re: #449 Slumbering Behemoth
Now that's how you get a kid interested in geography.
...not to mention the Geography teacher on court TV. /
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wrenchwench Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:26:31pm |
re: #453 Killgore Trout
Anarchists at the Tea Party (not kidding)
They're not "infiltrators", they're Paulians.
What does it mean when they have the Confederate National flag upside down? The South shall not rise again?
| 457 |
windsagio Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:26:45pm |
re: #453 Killgore Trout
Love the guy in the Beret. Looks like the Orange County Liberation Army
| 458 |
Obdicut Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:26:49pm |
re: #454 SanFranciscoZionist
There is a 63-year-old dermatologist threatening to retire.
| 459 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:28:34pm |
re: #453 Killgore Trout
"Anarchists for Peace and Liberty"
LOL! Our "Unclear on the concept" award goes to.... that guy!
| 460 |
simoom Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:29:01pm |
Counter protesters carrying a giant banner within the DC event:
[Link: twitpic.com...]
The Other 95%
say thanks for our tax cuts, Obama!
| 461 |
Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:29:01pm |
re: #453 Killgore Trout
Anarchists at the Tea Party (not kidding)
They're not "infiltrators", they're Paulians.
They want peace and they want to use the V for Vendetta logo. Interesting.
| 463 |
DaddyG Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:29:13pm |
It is so hard to find a good anarchist organization these days. /
| 464 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:30:02pm |
re: #458 Obdicut
There is a 63-year-old dermatologist threatening to retire.
We're doomed. I should take a Berkeley Extension course on herbal cures or something.
| 465 |
Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:30:23pm |
re: #463 DaddyG
It is so hard to find a good anarchist organization these days. /
I keep trying to find one, but as soon as I ask who is in charge, things go to hell.
| 466 |
cliffster Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:30:36pm |
re: #459 Slumbering Behemoth
"Anarchists for Peace and Liberty"
LOL! Our "Unclear on the concept" award goes to... that guy!
New political party? Who will chair the Anarchy National Committee?
| 467 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:30:57pm |
re: #459 Slumbering Behemoth
"Anarchists for Peace and Liberty"
LOL! Our "Unclear on the concept" award goes to... that guy!
Classically, anarchists favored both.
Whether this guy knows what he's talking about...
| 468 |
DaddyG Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:31:29pm |
re: #466 cliffster
New political party? Who will chair the Anarchy National Committee?
Isnt' that Michael Steeles position?
| 469 |
darthstar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:32:09pm |
re: #461 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
They want peace and they want to use the V for Vendetta logo. Interesting.
That's an A for anarchy...your computer is upside down./
| 470 |
Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:32:26pm |
| 471 |
cliffster Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:32:29pm |
re: #460 simoom
Counter protesters carrying a giant banner within the DC event:
[Link: twitpic.com...]
Wait, they aren't getting attacked? What happened to those violent tea partiers?
| 472 |
Kragar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:33:07pm |
re: #469 darthstar
That's an A for anarchy...your computer is upside down./
Maybe my computer is on its side and its a D for Dumbass.
| 473 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:33:11pm |
re: #466 cliffster
New political party? Who will chair the Anarchy National Committee?
The guy who can swing the fastest, hardest punch. Of course, then it ceases being anarchy, and becomes despotic tribalism.
/:sigh: Why is it a good anarchy can never last more than a month?
| 474 |
webevintage Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:33:34pm |
re: #460 simoom
Counter protesters carrying a giant banner within the DC event:
[Link: twitpic.com...]
Great banner.
But what a way to harsh the teaparty narrative....
| 475 |
darthstar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:34:30pm |
re: #474 webevintage
Great banner.
But what a way to harsh the teaparty narrative...
Positive messages are always better than negative ones.
| 476 |
darthstar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:35:19pm |
re: #463 DaddyG
It is so hard to find a good anarchist organization these days. /
They just need a good, strong leader.
| 477 |
simoom Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:35:26pm |
Wow, has anyone posted this one?
[Link: twitpic.com...]
Missing Person
Name: Village IdiotPlease Return to Kenya!
Are those real cow patties lashed to that sign!?
| 478 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:36:05pm |
re: #461 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
They want peace and they want to use the V for Vendetta logo. Interesting.
It's incoherent, that's sure and certain.
| 479 |
darthstar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:36:31pm |
re: #473 Slumbering Behemoth
The guy who can swing the fastest, hardest punch. Of course, then it ceases being anarchy, and becomes despotic tribalism.
/:sigh: Why is it a good anarchy can never last more than a month?
Music break:
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:37:10pm |
re: #475 darthstar
Positive messages are always better than negative ones.
No they're not.
/This negative message has been brought to you by the number seven
| 481 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:37:12pm |
re: #477 simoom
Wow, has anyone posted this one?
[Link: twitpic.com...]
Are those real cow patties lashed to that sign!?
Can we call that sign holder a racist?
| 482 |
wrenchwench Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:37:36pm |
re: #477 simoom
Wow, has anyone posted this one?
[Link: twitpic.com...]
Are those real cow patties lashed to that sign!?
I don't want to claim expertise, but I believe they are. However, I am mystified by "RIED THIS"
| 483 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:37:52pm |
re: #480 Slumbering Behemoth
No they're not.
/This negative message has been brought to you by the number seven
Thanks, Big Bird.
/kidding
| 484 |
davesax Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:38:53pm |
Next up, education reform.
And then, marriage reform.
Marriage should be a contract that is renewed every five years.
I have no idea why I said that.
| 485 |
darthstar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:39:38pm |
re: #477 simoom
Wow, has anyone posted this one?
[Link: twitpic.com...]
Are those real cow patties lashed to that sign!?
It's amazing...even when they put his picture on a poster above a couple of pieces of dried cow-shit, President Obama looks positive and handsome.
| 486 |
simoom Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:39:40pm |
re: #482 wrenchwench
I don't want to claim expertise, but I believe they are. However, I am mystified by "RIED THIS"
It's from the Vegas Tea Party event today, so the sign bearer thinks they've inserted a clever Harry Reid pun.
| 487 |
bosforus Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:39:53pm |
Teabaggers anagram:
Rage Bag Set
Garbage Set
Great Be Gas
See Brat Gag
| 488 |
simoom Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:40:41pm |
re: #486 simoom
Oh, I see what you mean... even making that assumption, it's still misspelled :P.
| 489 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:40:45pm |
re: #484 davesax
Marriage should be a contract that is renewed every five years.
And smog tested every ten years.
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darthstar Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:40:48pm |
re: #486 simoom
It's from the Vegas Tea Party event today, so the sign bearer thinks they've inserted a clever Harry Reid pun.
And they misspelled Reid's name twice.
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wrenchwench Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:40:49pm |
re: #484 davesax
Next up, education reform.
And then, marriage reform.
Marriage should be a contract that is renewed every five years.
I have no idea why I said that.
Your wife told you to?
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cliffster Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:41:04pm |
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wrenchwench Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:41:58pm |
re: #486 simoom
It's from the Vegas Tea Party event today, so the sign bearer thinks they've inserted a clever Harry Reid pun.
Also, on the sign above, it lists among Obama's qualities, "Can't Ried." Somebody is too clever by half.
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DaddyG Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:42:09pm |
re: #467 SanFranciscoZionist
Classically, anarchists favored both.
Whether this guy knows what he's talking about...
Anarchists these days just aren't like the classic anarchists.
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davesax Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:42:27pm |
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Varek Raith Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:42:43pm |
re: #477 simoom
Wow, has anyone posted this one?
[Link: twitpic.com...]
Are those real cow patties lashed to that sign!?
"Ried This"
???
ROFL
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DaddyG Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:43:39pm |
re: #485 darthstar
It's amazing...even when they put his picture on a poster above a couple of pieces of dried cow-shit, President Obama looks positive and handsome.
That would be his official NEA portrait.
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Eclectic Infidel Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:43:42pm |
re: #28 SanFranciscoZionist
I liked the lady with the teabag hat better.
Sort of reminds me of the whole tinfoil hat thing. Gotta wonder, at least.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:46:36pm |
re: #498 eclectic infidel
Sort of reminds me of the whole tinfoil hat thing. Gotta wonder, at least.
Those are tea bags dunked in a glass filled with the tears of Glenn Beck. They provide an impenetrable shield against all reason and logic.
/
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davesax Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:46:59pm |
I think it's great that Charles is vigilant about the far right wing and how it has permeated mainstream conservatism.
But I guess I'm sheltered because I live in NYC and that type of thinking is so far outside my radar. I've never watched Glenn Beck, attended a Tea Party, etc. And I never will.
I don't know why i said that.
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DaddyG Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:47:45pm |
re: #500 davesax
I think it's great that Charles is vigilant about the far right wing and how it has permeated mainstream conservatism.
But I guess I'm sheltered because I live in NYC and that type of thinking is so far outside my radar. I've never watched Glenn Beck, attended a Tea Party, etc. And I never will.
I don't know why i said that.
I know how you feel.
I've never watched an episode of Lost or American Idol.
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bosforus Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:48:07pm |
re: #477 simoom
Wow, has anyone posted this one?
[Link: twitpic.com...]
Are those real cow patties lashed to that sign!?
They flew all the way in from Nevada it appears. I like the "don't" instead of "doesn't" choice. Nothing like a little verb disagreement to get your point across.
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Stanghazi Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:48:12pm |
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cliffster Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:48:47pm |
re: #487 bosforus
Teabaggers anagram:
Rage Bag Set
Garbage Set
Great Be Gas
See Brat Gag
Barack Obama: Cab Bra Oak Ma
If you google "anagram", it comes back and says "Did you mean, nag a ram?" HAHAHAHA I love Google
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simoom Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:50:13pm |
Remember those counter protesters from the Boston Commons Tea Party Express event who held a real tea party (with cookies). I just found an image of them from a tea partier's twitpic feed.
They think they've caught a bunch of liberal infiltrators :P
Image: 87042129-b763d58e3cb2b7e4f5174b7199e14336.4bc77b21-full.jpg
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:51:12pm |
re: #500 davesax
I think it's great that Charles is vigilant about the far right wing and how it has permeated mainstream conservatism.
But I guess I'm sheltered because I live in NYC and that type of thinking is so far outside my radar. I've never watched Glenn Beck, attended a Tea Party, etc. And I never will.
I don't know why i said that.
You don't need to know why, Dave. You're sane and fun to have around. We all like you and that's reason enough.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:52:49pm |
re: #505 simoom
Remember those counter protesters from the Boston Commons Tea Party Express event who held a real tea party (with cookies). I just found an image of them from a tea partier's twitpic feed.
They think they've caught a bunch of liberal infiltrators :P
Image: 87042129-b763d58e3cb2b7e4f5174b7199e14336.4bc77b21 -full.jpg
Well, the lady in white is a genuine protester, one with whom I agree. Her point relates to Obama's rude treatment of Israel and the UK.
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davesax Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:56:55pm |
re: #506 Dark_Falcon
Dark, thanks ! That's really cool of you to say.
As Mr. Miagi would reply, "You Pretty OK too."
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davesax Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:57:49pm |
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simoom Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:57:52pm |
re: #505 simoom
Hmm, twitpic doesn't seem to like direct linking to the image (it appears the jpeg's name changes after a time). Here's the twitpic webpage that contains the photo:
[Link: twitpic.com...]
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Obdicut Thu, Apr 15, 2010 1:59:18pm |
re: #507 Dark_Falcon
I really don't think she's a real protester. I think she's protesting the rudeness of many of the signs.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Apr 15, 2010 2:03:29pm |
re: #511 Obdicut
I really don't think she's a real protester. I think she's protesting the rudeness of many of the signs.
Maybe. It could be either. I guess its a Rorsarch sign.
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Obdicut Thu, Apr 15, 2010 2:05:40pm |
re: #512 Dark_Falcon
I think the fact she's with the other people who are counterprotestors in Edwardian dress, and she herself is in Edwardian dress, makes me think she's a counterprotester.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Apr 15, 2010 2:15:58pm |
re: #513 Obdicut
I think the fact she's with the other people who are counterprotestors in Edwardian dress, and she herself is in Edwardian dress, makes me think she's a counterprotester.
You're probably right. Point conceded.
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