Video: The Launch of Apollo 11
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Awesome launch-camera video of the Apollo 11 moon mission, July 16, 1969, with narration by Mark Gray of Spacecraft Films.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Apr 16, 2010 1:41:50pm |
OT but for todays dose of cute, animals love the IPad
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Digital Display Fri, Apr 16, 2010 1:42:39pm |
The Universetoday is doing a series called the 13 things that saved Apollo 13.
They are up to part 6.. Very interesting and has much more detail than the movie Apollo 13..
[Link: www.universetoday.com...]
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darthstar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 1:45:14pm |
Color me impressed. The flash reversal and almost perfectly square pillar of flame during the first few seconds of launch was pretty awesome.
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darthstar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 1:48:20pm |
re: #3 HoosierHoops
The Universetoday is doing a series called the 13 things that saved Apollo 13.
They are up to part 6.. Very interesting and has much more detail than the movie Apollo 13..
[Link: www.universetoday.com...]
I posted this this morning, but thought it was pretty cool. The iPad printer attachment.
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Digital Display Fri, Apr 16, 2010 1:50:57pm |
re: #5 darthstar
I posted this this morning, but thought it was pretty cool. The iPad printer attachment.
LOL That's great!
I can't believe there are no USB ports for a printer...or a keyboard..or a mouse
and an external drive...
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 1:51:18pm |
Amazing what they could do on a soundstage back in the 60s.
///
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Apr 16, 2010 1:54:04pm |
OT but damn Megyn Kelly is teh stoopid
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wrenchwench Fri, Apr 16, 2010 1:55:07pm |
Awesome is the word. The footage was amazing, and the narration was great.
My family didn't even have a color TV back then. Now there's probably more computing power in my 5 year old desktop than was used to launch Apollo 11.
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 1:57:38pm |
Blizzard Entertainment earns millions in one day selling downloadable content update for WoW
Thousands of World of Warcraft players are getting around Azeroth in style today. Blizzard offered up the Lil' XT pet and the Celestial Steed mount yesterday, and at one point, the queue to download the virtual critters topped 140,000 people.
WoW.com tracked the the sales queue as it grew and grew yesterday at Blizzard's online store, and reported that at one point, the wait to download the items extended beyond seven hours.
The Celestial Steed is described by Blizzard as a mount born from the Twisting Nether with wings of pure elemental stardust. The ethereal beast evidently wasn't easy to capture, as Blizzard charges $25 a pop for it. The Lil' XT, a mini-Deconstructor in-game pet, sells for $10. Given the numbers in the queue and the cost of the items, it appears Activision-Blizzard has pulled off another paid DLC coupe.
And that is economics in action.
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darthstar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:02:09pm |
re: #10 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Blizzard Entertainment earns millions in one day selling downloadable content update for WoW
And that is economics in action.
I've been told I have wings of pure elemental stardust.
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garhighway Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:03:39pm |
re: #8 Dreggas
OT but damn Megyn Kelly is teh stoopid
The money quote:
"[W]hy can't it be a day where we take a moment and we stop and we acknowledge the role that God has played in the formation of this country and its laws," Kelly asked incredulously. "What's so promotional about religion there?"
The jokes just write themselves.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:04:29pm |
re: #10 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
another reason I am happy to stay playing LOTRO.
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webevintage Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:04:38pm |
re: #8 Dreggas
OT but damn Megyn Kelly is teh stoopid
Yeah, her brand of idiocy makes me stabby.
Mostly because I think it is all and act and I hate how smart women will play teh!stopid to be on FOX.
Oh and shiny, cat playing with iPad:
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:05:08pm |
re: #11 darthstar
I've been told I have wings of pure elemental stardust.
Cocaine is a helluva drug.
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:05:51pm |
re: #13 Dreggas
Monthly payment plans are the stuff of damnation.
Sometime I'll have to tell you guys the story of how WoW almost gave me a nervous breakdown, but its intensely geeky and very long :P
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:06:07pm |
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garhighway Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:06:26pm |
re: #14 webevintage
Yeah, her brand of idiocy makes me stabby.
Mostly because I think it is all and act and I hate how smart women will play teh!stopid to be on FOX.
I suppose it's possible, and I agree that women playing dumb to fit in is regrettable, but is there any real evidence that is in an act in her particular case?
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darthstar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:07:16pm |
Though my favorite sign from the Ann Arbor tea party is this one.
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:07:52pm |
re: #13 Dreggas
another reason I am happy to stay playing LOTRO.
I'm weening myself off it, but the wife is compeletly addicted to it.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:08:03pm |
re: #11 darthstar
I've been told I have wings of pure elemental stardust.
No, I said "I am not eating those chicken wings you made, they're covered in sawdust".
I'm not drinking with you anymore./
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:08:33pm |
re: #11 darthstar
I've been told I have wings of pure elemental stardust.
The rest of your body is stardust as well. The wonders of the universe that the ignorant keep themselves unaware of. :)
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darthstar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:08:43pm |
re: #21 Slumbering Behemoth
No, I said "I am not eating those chicken wings you made, they're covered in sawdust".
I'm not drinking with you anymore./
Just so long as you don't drink with me any less.
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webevintage Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:09:19pm |
re: #18 garhighway
I suppose it's possible, and I agree that women playing dumb to fit in is regrettable, but is there any real evidence that is in an act in her particular case?
Well, she was editor of the law review at Syracuse.
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darthstar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:10:04pm |
re: #15 negativ
Cocaine is a helluva drug.
I never did coke. Coke did me. That's probably why I quit pills & powders altogether over twenty years ago.
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garhighway Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:10:28pm |
re: #24 webevintage
Well, she was editor of the law review at Syracuse.
That would be evidence.
In that case, you are right: it's an act, and a sad thing.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:10:44pm |
re: #16 windsagio
I don't mind the monthly fee though I have toyed with playing D&D online since it is free you just pay for extras. The only thing stopping me is the fact that I'd prefer a flat rate and everyone gets the new/same content vs. paying piece-meal. That and I loved LOTR growing up so to see it realized in a game is just awesome for me.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:10:54pm |
re: #14 webevintage
Yeah, her brand of idiocy makes me stabby.
Mostly because I think it is all and act and I hate how smart women will play teh!stopid to be on FOX.Oh and shiny, cat playing with iPad:
[Video]
The closest I came to that was having a small jumping spider on my monitor one night. It chased the cursor around trying to catch and eat it.
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webevintage Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:11:07pm |
re: #24 webevintage
Well, she was editor of the law review at Syracuse.
Opps, that was The Albany Law Review.....
My bad.
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Fozzie Bear Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:11:23pm |
I don't for a second believe she is that dumb. She might just be that low, but not that dumb.
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garhighway Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:11:29pm |
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:11:56pm |
re: #27 Dreggas
I was playing the hell out of Guild Wars for a while too, waiting for the sequel now tho'.
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Digital Display Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:12:44pm |
re: #25 darthstar
I never did coke. Coke did me. That's probably why I quit pills & powders altogether over twenty years ago.
Good for you DS.....Coke almost destroyed the NBA in the 80's.. Everybody was hopped up on it.. The OD of Len Bias really opened a lot of eyes to the scourge of drugs
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:13:00pm |
re: #32 windsagio
I was playing the hell out of Guild Wars for a while too, waiting for the sequel now tho'.
If the Fallout MMO plays anything like Fallout 3, they're going to suck me back in.
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Big Steve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:13:21pm |
Darn good thing we don't need to go to the moon anymore. Nothing interesting there. And as an added benefit we don't have to burn up launch towers.
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Summer Seale Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:13:47pm |
The 40 Dumbest Tax Day Signs:
[Link: www.buzzfeed.com...]
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:13:51pm |
re: #32 windsagio
Guild wars was ok. I finished it and then realized there wasn't much left and I wasn't big on the PvP so I pretty much left it to collect dust on my shelf. I'd have to see what the second one looked like before picking it up again. I am interested in seeing what the star wars MMO looks like and of course Diablo 3.
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webevintage Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:14:43pm |
re: #26 garhighway
That would be evidence.
In that case, you are right: it's an act, and a sad thing.
It is the same thing with Gretchen Carlson who is on Fox and Idiots Friends in the morning. She graduated from Stanford with honors and went to Oxford.
Maybe working with Doocy & Kilmeade has rotted her brain....
(I think Jon Stewart did a bit on her a month or so ago)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:14:51pm |
re: #25 darthstar
I like it when it was there, but it never seemed to grab me the way it does most people. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones.
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:15:00pm |
re: #37 Dreggas
Guild wars was ok. I finished it and then realized there wasn't much left and I wasn't big on the PvP so I pretty much left it to collect dust on my shelf. I'd have to see what the second one looked like before picking it up again. I am interested in seeing what the star wars MMO looks like and of course Diablo 3.
Mandatory PVP has killed many a potential game for me in the MMO genre.
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Aceofwhat? Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:15:19pm |
re: #34 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
If the Fallout MMO plays anything like Fallout 3, they're going to suck me back in.
any thoughts on the Old Republic MMO under development? i can't figure out whether i want it to be good or whether it'd be healthier for me if it wasn't...
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Digital Display Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:15:46pm |
re: #35 Big Steve
Darn good thing we don't need to go to the moon anymore. Nothing interesting there. And as an added benefit we don't have to burn up launch towers.
Hi Big Steve! I think we need a moon base to launch from there to other planets...
With it's low gravity it is a perfect place as a stepping stone to Mars..
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:16:42pm |
re: #41 Aceofwhat?
any thoughts on the Old Republic MMO under development? i can't figure out whether i want it to be good or whether it'd be healthier for me if it wasn't...
I'm done with anything Star Wars related. Lucas killed the dream.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:16:49pm |
re: #40 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Mandatory PVP has killed many a potential game for me in the MMO genre.
What PK games/MUDS taught me primarily is that I never want to live in a society that is essentially an anarchy.
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darthstar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:16:53pm |
re: #35 Big Steve
Darn good thing we don't need to go to the moon anymore. Nothing interesting there. And as an added benefit we don't have to burn up launch towers.
There's still a lot of cheese to be harvested on the moon. I remember when Google maps released their 'moon' map if you zoomed in all the way it showed the moon was made of cheese...doesn't do that anymore, but to stick with the topic of this thread, the map does show the locations of the landings for the Apollo missions.
[Link: www.google.com...]
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:17:29pm |
re: #45 darthstar
There's still a lot of cheese to be harvested on the moon. I remember when Google maps released their 'moon' map if you zoomed in all the way it showed the moon was made of cheese...doesn't do that anymore, but to stick with the topic of this thread, the map does show the locations of the landings for the Apollo missions.
[Link: www.google.com...]
Are they still having trouble there with the robot skiers interfering with the harvesting efforts?
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:19:21pm |
re: #44 oaktree
What PK games/MUDS taught me primarily is that I never want to live in a society that is essentially an anarchy.
Very few chances to sneak up on the asshole raiding your town and bash him in the head with a rock or poison his supplies when he can log off and leave mom's basement to go to dinner.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:19:28pm |
re: #41 Aceofwhat?
IIRC Bioware is doing the Old Republic MMO and from what I have heard they are doing an awesome job.
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Aceofwhat? Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:20:20pm |
re: #48 Dreggas
IIRC Bioware is doing the Old Republic MMO and from what I have heard they are doing an awesome job.
i forgot it was Bioware...i love their stuff. i might be in trouble...
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William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:20:32pm |
Oh wow. I know, I know, but still just oh wow...
LEGENDS
BY BILL ROPER
Once upon a time,
You could hear the Saturn’s roar
As it rose upon its fiery tail to space.
And once upon a time, the men that we sent out
Landed in a strange and alien place.
And as I watched them walk upon the Moon,
I remembered Icarus,
Who flew too close to the Sun.
Once upon a time, they tore the gantries down
And the rockets flew no longer to the Moon.
And once upon a time,
We swore that we’d return,
But it doesn’t look like we’ll be back there soon.
And as the Moon shines down
On the shattered launching ground,
I remember Apollo,
Who flew the chariot of the Sun.
And I wonder of the legends they will tell
A thousand years from now.
William
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:21:28pm |
re: #48 Dreggas
IIRC Bioware is doing the Old Republic MMO and from what I have heard they are doing an awesome job.
And then, we have this ray of hope from THQ coming in June
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:21:33pm |
re: #39 Slumbering Behemoth
PIMF! I meant "liked", as in past tense.
MMOs, on the other hand, I have avoided from day one. I know they would just suck me in and ruin my life faster than any drug could.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:21:47pm |
re: #40 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I don't like mandatory PvP in games much, though in some settings it works. I was just never a fan of Guild wars PvP. I liked the PvP that was in Warhammer, I liked the PvP sieges in Age Of Conan (loved AOC in general but got bored with it) but the PvP in Guild Wars was pointless IMO. I haven't done what little PvP there is in LOTRO yet but for the most part there's no need. Most people are there to roleplay and work together. By far the best community I have seen.
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compound idaho Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:22:11pm |
re: #38 webevintage
It is the same thing with Gretchen Carlson who is on Fox and
IdiotsFriends in the morning. She graduated from Stanford with honors and went to Oxford.
Maybe working with Doocy & Kilmeade has rotted her brain...(I think Jon Stewart did a bit on her a month or so ago)
In her case I think its for real. Besides isn't is Leland Stanford Jr. College. ;)
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:22:37pm |
re: #51 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I had heard that was coming but I didn't want to get my hopes up too far. Hopefully it's not as sucky overall as the Warhammer MMO was. I may have to play it.
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garhighway Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:22:47pm |
OT: Bill McKibben has a new book out, talking about AGW's effect on the planet.
[Link: www.salon.com...]
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darthstar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:26:10pm |
Here's some good news...Blackwater's ex-President has been indicted on weapons charges.
The former president of Blackwater Worldwide was charged Friday with using straw purchases to stockpile automatic weapons at the security firm and filing false documents to cover up gifts given to the King of Jordan.
The federal indictment charges Gary Jackson, 52, who left the company last year in a management shakeup, along with four other former workers.
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:27:00pm |
re: #55 Dreggas
I had heard that was coming but I didn't want to get my hopes up too far. Hopefully it's not as sucky overall as the Warhammer MMO was. I may have to play it.
2 months till we find out. EA ran the show with Warhammer, but never cared much for their games. THQ has a pretty good track record though.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:27:26pm |
re: #52 Slumbering Behemoth
MMOs, on the other hand, I have avoided from day one. I know they would just suck me in and ruin my life faster than any drug could.
I am never again* going to play a game that:
* can't be saved or paused,
* you are required (in practice if not in theory) to join a social clique (guild) if you hope to get much of anything done,
* if you don't feel like playing it for a week, you get so far behind the rest of your guild that you might as well quit.
* unless it's awesome.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:28:44pm |
This video is exceptionally cool for me to view. I am in sales for a company that makes the "char" coating (in tumescent fireproofing) among many other specialty coatings. I don't know the history of the product development, though I do wonder if it was created just for this application - like the space shuttle tiles were. Many advances in technology were driven by the Apollo program, that's for sure. Can you say "Tang"!
Had the WTC steel been coated like this the towers would likely still be standing. The new towers, needless to say, will have the steel coated with in tumescent.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:30:02pm |
re: #60 The Shadow Do
Spell check is not my friend. It is one word: "intumescent". Bastard spell check.
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:30:11pm |
re: #59 negativ
I am never again* going to play a game that:
* can't be saved or paused,
* you are required (in practice if not in theory) to join a social clique (guild) if you hope to get much of anything done,
* if you don't feel like playing it for a week, you get so far behind the rest of your guild that you might as well quit.
* unless it's awesome.
I can agree with much of what you say, more so for points 2 and 3. Recent changes to WoW in regards to just those 2 issues are why I have cut back drastically.
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Digital Display Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:30:29pm |
Beck just stooped to a new low a minute ago.. I can't believe I just heard him say this.. He was drawing up the 10-80-10 rule on the chalkboard.. Standard 10% of people are pretty dumb..10% of people are really smart and leaders and the other 80% is I guess...We sit in the middle..Whatever..
I can't believe my ears...
He said don't be like those people during 9-11 and returned to their desk and died instead of escaping.. Excuse me..Could you give a most fucking sicking example of being dumb than that? You are disgusting Beck...You could have given a million examples of doing dumb things.. You mocked those souls that perished as being the bottom 10% of people..They were just dumb..'Don't be like them'... Fuck you Beck.. You may not realize this but they can't defend themselves tonight...Usually I just laugh at Beck.. He really just disgusted me.
I'm not recording him today.. After the show can we find the link?
I really can't believe he just said that
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Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:30:41pm |
It's worth spending a few minutes to read through this.....
Goldman Sachs' 'Fraud' Explained: How They Pulled Off The Alleged Scheme
It's dumbed down enough that the average person can get the general idea of what they were doing. The wingnut blogs have been mostly silent about this story but I suspect they're going to claim that this is a government frameup.
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zora Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:31:31pm |
ot
[Link: tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com...]
O'Reilly v. Coburn: The Evidence Fox News Does Claim You'll Go To Jail (VIDEO)
After Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) told a town hall audience that they shouldn't believe everything they hear on Fox News, Bill O'Reilly had Coburn on his show to reprimand him for wrongly using Fox as a "whipping boy."
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:31:41pm |
re: #3 HoosierHoops
Space policy-
We all just watched a rocket that could lift far more than the shuttle.
So now we have to re invent a heavy lift rocket, because if my President Obama quote was right- "we already went to the moon so why go again". I don't get it.
If we had simply kept the ability to build Saturn 5 rockets, we would not need the Russians to get people or heavy objects into orbit. The contractors now claim it would be more expensive to re do Saturn 5 than start from scratch. I do not believe them.
I guess rocket scientists and space policy makers never heard "waste not want not".
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Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:32:23pm |
re: #63 HoosierHoops
After the show can we find the link?
It'll show up on youtube in a couple hours. I'll keep an eye out for it.
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darthstar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:35:01pm |
Today's "shit my dad says":
"I’m not sure you can call that roughing it, son… Well, for one, there was a fucking minivan parked forty feet from your sleeping bags.”
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Digital Display Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:35:15pm |
re: #67 Killgore Trout
It'll show up on youtube in a couple hours. I'll keep an eye out for it.
Thank you KT.. I really heard him say that..Don't be like the 10% of people that returned to their desk during 911.. Almost a direct quote..I can't believe he said that...What a disgusting thing to say...
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:35:39pm |
re: #58 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
THQ was great when it came to the RTS games. I do look forward to seeing what they do with an MMO.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:38:32pm |
Instadouche links to this: Hedge fund manager in Goldman Sachs case is major Democratic donor
Ed Morrisey sez....
What makes this particularly interesting was that GS has aligned itself behind the Obama administration’s financial reform plans.
Maybe they're going for an "inside job" scenario. The Dems plotted this and let the bankers take the fall.
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Taqyia2Me Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:39:59pm |
OF
I would like to spend a moment to apologize for a comment I made a couple/three weeks ago directed at darthstar, specifically a bad word I used. Darthstar is a blogger I like and have 'updinged' in the past. Darthstar, Charles and LGF deserve much better than that posting from me.
It won't happen again.
(posting from iPhone, so also apologizing for phat phinger typos)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:40:00pm |
FOX Business: Arggh! Secularism bad! (and other stuff)
Secularism, paganism, same difference, right?
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:40:30pm |
re: #66 Rightwingconspirator
First of all, what possible good would come from going back to the moon right now? Is it just a feel-good thing?
Secondly, its an interesting presumption that you know more than the experts re: heavy lifter development thing :p
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simoom Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:40:32pm |
Here's a video of a few crowd interviews, including Lou Dobbs, from the NYC Tea Party event, yesterday:
Not too exciting, but I thought an interesting part was near the end where there is this exchange:
Man: You should probably interview the racist that's now talking up there now, right? There's a racist up there talking so you probably should run over there and interview him.Interviewer: Are you pointing him out because he's black?
Man (not sure if it's the same one): Excuse me, there's a black man over there. There's a black man. There's a black man. ... But, there is a black man talking right now -- and I've already been called a racist -- because there's a black man here.
Interviewer: Thank you for pointing it out.
This seems to be along the lines of all the photos some Tea Partiers take of the few black folks who show up at their events and then post them to twitter or blogs with sarcastic captions like, "Look out! It's another Tea Party racist!" or "Yup, there is no diversity in the Tea Party!".
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Mocking Jay Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:42:24pm |
re: #13 Dreggas
another reason I am happy to stay playing LOTRO.
LoTRo is actually a really great game. I loved the community while I was there. Most of them even knew how to spell.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:42:25pm |
Dan Rielh gets the award for the first conspiracy theory.....
Is SEC Suit A Timed Political Stunt?
Lawsuits generate some great headlines, while often amounting to not much of anything in the end. Today it's an SEC civil, not criminal, mind you, suit against Goldman Sachs some say amounts to not much. And that, as Obama and the Democrats are trying to pass financial regulation some economists say will enshrine bailouts as an ongoing government mechanism of control over the economy. Can we question the timing of these? Well, I can!
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Obdicut Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:44:12pm |
re: #75 simoom
Man, that guy was really pissed off at being told not to touch the microphone.
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Mocking Jay Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:44:26pm |
re: #63 HoosierHoops
Beck just stooped to a new low a minute ago.. I can't believe I just heard him say this.. He was drawing up the 10-80-10 rule on the chalkboard.. Standard 10% of people are pretty dumb..10% of people are really smart and leaders and the other 80% is I guess...We sit in the middle..Whatever..
I can't believe my ears...
He said don't be like those people during 9-11 and returned to their desk and died instead of escaping.. Excuse me..Could you give a most fucking sicking example of being dumb than that? You are disgusting Beck...You could have given a million examples of doing dumb things.. You mocked those souls that perished as being the bottom 10% of people..They were just dumb..'Don't be like them'... Fuck you Beck.. You may not realize this but they can't defend themselves tonight...Usually I just laugh at Beck.. He really just disgusted me.
I'm not recording him today.. After the show can we find the link?
I really can't believe he just said that
I've taken dumps that had more character than this "man."
F*cking coward.
*spit*
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Obdicut Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:44:41pm |
re: #76 JasonA
They fucked up the high-level crap, though, both from a performance perspective and a worthwhile perspective. Legendary my ass.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:45:03pm |
re: #76 JasonA
I am having a blast with it. I had tried it out before but then got sucked back into Age Of Conan. Stayed there until after the election when it became a haven for Conspiracy Theorists and assorted wingnuts (not that the community was ever that great to begin with). I don't game to get into political debates (probably why I avoid FPS') I game to get away from politics for a bit.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:45:17pm |
re: #75 simoom
That's just freakin' creepy.
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:45:58pm |
re: #63 HoosierHoops
Beck just stooped to a new low a minute ago.. I can't believe I just heard him say this.. He was drawing up the 10-80-10 rule on the chalkboard.. Standard 10% of people are pretty dumb..10% of people are really smart and leaders and the other 80% is I guess...We sit in the middle..Whatever..
I can't believe my ears...
He said don't be like those people during 9-11 and returned to their desk and died instead ofescapingthrowing themselves out the window.
Escape was pretty much impossible for people trapped on the floors above where the planes hit, the stairwells were blocked with flaming debris.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:46:19pm |
re: #81 Obdicut
I haven't made it that far yet and just bought Siege of Mirkwood that ups the level cap to 65, no idea what the legendary stuff is like but am loving my elven hunter. Probably will try out an elven warden next.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:47:16pm |
re: #78 zora
Sure sounds that way, don't it?
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Mocking Jay Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:47:35pm |
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tradewind Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:47:41pm |
re: #71 Killgore Trout
He just knew who had his back. Nothing says security like the label 'Too Big To Fail' stamped on your backside by the administration and his Democratic Congress.
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darthstar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:48:41pm |
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:48:43pm |
re: #75 simoom
Here's a video of a few crowd interviews, including Lou Dobbs, from the NYC Tea Party event, yesterday:
[Video]This seems to be along the lines of all the photos some Tea Partiers take of the few black folks who show up at their events and then post them to twitter or blogs with sarcastic captions like, "Look out! It's another Tea Party racist!" or "Yup, there is no diversity in the Tea Party!".
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:49:02pm |
re: #81 Obdicut
They fucked up the high-level crap, though, both from a performance perspective and a worthwhile perspective. Legendary my ass.
Warcrafts recent addition for cross server groups and gear scores have really killed the game for me and several other players I know. Too much elitism and jackassery at the high levels nowadays.
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tradewind Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:49:11pm |
re: #84 Alouette
I don't know... didn't hear it, but I would guess that he meant don't ignore warnings not to carry on as usual. I can't imagine that he was talking about people with no escape option.
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:49:33pm |
re: #89 darthstar
I play Bejeweled Blitz on facebook. Way fun.
I played Farmville on Facebook for a while, but stopped after I realized how utterly freaking lame it was.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:50:04pm |
LOL. Dan Rielh complains about Huffpo highliting stupid and misspelled Tea Party signs....
HuffPo Doesn't Want The Turth On The Tea Party Movement
They can't handle the truth. So they publish garbage, instead.
Turth!
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:50:37pm |
re: #87 JasonA
I have heard from people on LOTRO and elsewhere that if you played on Cimmeria in AoC the people were pretty good because it was RP based, however while I was in the game I heard it was a gank-fest.
I've been back in LOTRO for a couple weeks now, have been playing on Landroval, joined a Kinship in which I have had some great RP and we planned to assault the great barrow tomorrow sometime. I have watched a troupe of hobbits play "the timewarp" on instruments in bree and have in general had some great time playing and roleplaying again.
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webevintage Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:51:19pm |
re: #59 negativ
I am never again* going to play a game that:
* can't be saved or paused,
* you are required (in practice if not in theory) to join a social clique (guild) if you hope to get much of anything done,
* if you don't feel like playing it for a week, you get so far behind the rest of your guild that you might as well quit.
Those are exactly the reasons that were discussed when my son decided to stop playing WOW.
Guess what he decided to start playing again today?
Yeah, WOW.
(But he is a bit bored, Sat he was LARPing (?) and got a really bad sprain (we thought his ankle was broken) and was fitted with a "boot" has to limit his walking for the next 2 weeks which means no going to work since there is no "light duty" for cart pushers.)
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tradewind Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:51:43pm |
re: #94 Killgore Trout
Since the tea party consists of people with more education than the average citizen, maybe Huffpo is just trying to find the exceptions that prove the rule.//
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:51:57pm |
re: #75 simoom
On so many levels, that video is fucked up. Micro chips segue into black man!
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:52:30pm |
re: #98 tradewind
As any blog shows, anger and hate often trump education >>
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:53:10pm |
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tradewind Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:53:41pm |
re: #95 Obdicut
Because I am not about to jump to the worst case scenario without having the facts, and because that would be Occam's reaction. It's definitely the most logical and easiest to reach explanation.....
Why would you assume the worst?
Oh wait.... I know. Never mind.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:53:50pm |
re: #100 windsagio
Not all education is quality education. Consider how Fred Phelps educates his children.
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wrenchwench Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:54:28pm |
re: #92 tradewind
I don't know... didn't hear it, but I
would guess that he meant don't ignore warnings not to carry on as usual.am willing to make Beck's excuses for him. I can't imagine that he was talking about people with no escape option.
FTF everybody but you.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:54:31pm |
re: #100 windsagio
As any blog shows, anger and hate often trump education >>
My favorite is the fiction that the Tea Parties are "independent".
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:55:13pm |
re: #103 Slumbering Behemoth
Lol there's that too,
Warning: Bomb ahead
~~
I wonder how many of those protesters were homeschooled? >>
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:55:32pm |
re: #102 tradewind
Hmm... I think Occam's reaction would be "He said what he meant, and he meant what he said". Just guessin', though.
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Aceofwhat? Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:56:04pm |
re: #102 tradewind
Because I am not about to jump to the worst case scenario without having the facts, and because that would be Occam's reaction. It's definitely the most logical and easiest to reach explanation...
Why would you assume the worst?
Oh wait... I know. Never mind.
you know, that's generally my MO as well...but in Beck's case, don't we have enough data points to have already plotted this line?
just because the graph ends on paper doesn't mean the trendline can't be extended ad infinitum...or is that ad nauseum...?
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tradewind Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:56:20pm |
re: #100 windsagio
If you are trying to say that emotion will often overcome the rational , sure. In every one. And every group.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:56:30pm |
Met an 87 year old man today with his 84 year old wife.... what a sweet old couple of so and sos.
In October they will be celebrating their... wait for it....
wait...
wait...
3 year anniversary.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:57:08pm |
There was never a more awe inspiring thing done by America in terms of technological and scientific prowess as the moon shot.
It is the romance and grandeur of the frontier mixed with the power of high technology.
It is truly heady stuff.
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Obdicut Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:57:15pm |
re: #102 tradewind
I'm sorry, but Occam's Razor says that Beck said something offensive and foul, because he has a habit of doing so.
I hate misuse of Occam.
You realize you're basically accusing Hoops of misrepresenting what he heard, right?
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:57:26pm |
re: #109 tradewind
I'm saying specifically that people that show up at teaparty demonstrations are generally angry and full of hate.
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tradewind Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:57:33pm |
re: #105 WindUpBird
That fiction that they were composed of illiterate hillbillies , frustrated because they were having a hard time making a buck was fun for a while.
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:57:42pm |
re: #74 windsagio
You may think I am just looking at this politically. I'm not.
Do you think the Russians and Chinese are going (or so they say) for a "feel good"? Ever heard of Helium3?
Energetic as heck!
Try this link for lots of reasons to go from space activists.
The moon as a long tern base for research and as a low gravity launching pad for the rest of the solar system makes sense to me, and others. The back side has huge potential for radio telescopes.
I have a few friends in the business. I did ask around, family and one pal from the Lockheed Delta program. I have 3 brothers in law that are all aerospace engineering professionals. We talk over beers at family gatherings.
I'm not taking a shot at Obama with this I have had this argument during several administrations, like the first idiots that literally scrapped the Saturn 5 tooling as a policy decision from DC.
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tradewind Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:57:55pm |
re: #110 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I love those love stories.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:58:17pm |
re: #105 WindUpBird
My favorite is the fiction that the Tea Parties are "independent".
Paulians, Falwellites & such... and the odd skinhead or three.
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Aceofwhat? Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:58:21pm |
re: #107 Slumbering Behemoth
Hmm... I think Occam's reaction would be "He said what he meant, and he meant what he said". Just guessin', though.
"This thing isn't for shaving"
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:58:39pm |
re: #109 tradewind
If you are trying to say that emotion will often overcome the rational , sure. In every one. And every group.
The difference is Tea Partier organizers have PROMOTED emotion (and fear, and racism, and paranoia, and nullification rhetoric) overcoming the rational, and used it for political ends.
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Randall Gross Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:58:46pm |
Heavy Lift: we need it back if we want to harvest asteroids....
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tradewind Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:59:20pm |
re: #113 windsagio
Couldn't say. I've never been to one, and it's difficult to tell from the reports, since they tend to look for examples that they think will get the most press. Calm, smiling people hardly ever make the five o' clock news.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 2:59:35pm |
re: #114 tradewind
That fiction that they were composed of illiterate hillbillies , frustrated because they were having a hard time making a buck was fun for a while.
There's some illiterate hillbillies, and some educated racists. 8-) Plenty of racists have higher degrees!
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:00:00pm |
re: #113 windsagio
I'm saying specifically that people that show up at teaparty demonstrations are generally angry and full of hate.
Duh... what did you expect... kumbuya?
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shiplord kirel Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:00:07pm |
A few Saturn V facts
At 3400 tons loaded, it was as heavy as a Navy destroyer and is still the largest object to rise from the Earth under its own power.
It was 3 times as heavy as the largest current airplane, the AN-225 Mirya, and was 7 times as heavy as the largest contemporary airplane.
Each of its five engines burned about 6000 pounds of liquid oxygen and kerosene per second, in a combustion chamber about the size of a home trash can.
The five turbopumps together (one for each engine) could empty an Olympic swimming pool in about 2 minutes.
The loaded Saturn V was about 30 percent heavier than the Space Shuttle assembly in it launch configuration.
Average cost of a Saturn V was approximately $471 million in 1968 dollars, close to 2 billion today.
There was a whole family of derivative and related rockets planned, including Nova, which would have been 60% larger and several even larger developments with strap-on solid stages and lengthened upper stages.
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tradewind Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:00:34pm |
re: #119 WindUpBird
Oh, I see. Kind of like ' you seniors will all have to eat dog food '. I remember that one.
Didn't work, though, he still lost.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:00:57pm |
re: #111 LudwigVanQuixote
There was never a more awe inspiring thing done by America in terms of technological and scientific prowess as the moon shot.
It is the romance and grandeur of the frontier mixed with the power of high technology.
It is truly heady stuff.
That's true. Tremendous pride and excitement accompanied the whole grand adventure. An unforgettable era.
But we're done now. It is for the Chinese or the Russians to carry on.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:01:09pm |
re: #117 The Shadow Do
Paulians, Falwellites & such... and the odd skinhead or three.
it runs the gamut from the far right of the GOP to the Natural law party!
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:01:11pm |
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Capitalist Tool Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:01:14pm |
re: #115 Rightwingconspirator
You may think I am just looking at this politically. I'm not.
Do you think the Russians and Chinese are going (or so they say) for a "feel good"? Ever heard of Helium3?
Energetic as heck!Try this link for lots of reasons to go from space activists.
The moon as a long tern base for research and as a low gravity launching pad for the rest of the solar system makes sense to me, and others. The back side has huge potential for radio telescopes.
I have a few friends in the business. I did ask around, family and one pal from the Lockheed Delta program. I have 3 brothers in law that are all aerospace engineering professionals. We talk over beers at family gatherings.
I'm not taking a shot at Obama with this I have had this argument during several administrations, like the first idiots that literally scrapped the Saturn 5 tooling as a policy decision from DC.
but we're so poor, or we have so many poor, or...
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Obdicut Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:01:19pm |
re: #111 LudwigVanQuixote
Reading a biography of Oppenheimer now, I'm pretty impressed by the achievements with the atomic weapons, too.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:01:29pm |
re: #126 tradewind
Oh, I see. Kind of like ' you seniors will all have to eat dog food '. I remember that one.
Didn't work, though, he still lost.
?
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:02:05pm |
re: #120 Thanos
Now we will ride the Russian moon rocket to low orbit. Abandoning manned space flight even temporarily is a huge mistake. We have lost capacity that would have served us well. We have no manned capacity even with the Russians above about 400 miles up. We can not even get people to geosynchronous orbit, a mere 25,000 miles, or about a tenth of the way to the moon. Sad.
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shiplord kirel Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:02:32pm |
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tradewind Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:02:38pm |
re: #123 WindUpBird
I loved the NBC reporter asking the African American tea party attendee 'Tell me, (please!)... do you feel at all uncomfortable' ?
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Aceofwhat? Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:03:20pm |
re: #133 Rightwingconspirator
Now we will ride the Russian moon rocket to low orbit. Abandoning manned space flight even temporarily is a huge mistake. We have lost capacity that would have served us well. We have no manned capacity even with the Russians above about 400 miles up. We can not even get people to geosynchronous orbit, a mere 25,000 miles, or about a tenth of the way to the moon. Sad.
maybe i misread the summaries, or read the wrong ones, but isn't this more about privatization rather than abandonment of manned space flight?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:03:53pm |
To think... my Toyota Highlander has more computing power than the Apollo spacecrafts...
SCIENCE! ENGINEERING! EGGHEADS! LABOR! BUREAUCRATS!
What they can do...
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tradewind Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:04:05pm |
re: #129 windsagio
Not a tea party apologist. But don't enjoy seeing the indiscriminate tea party bashing , either.
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:04:14pm |
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freetoken Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:04:18pm |
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Digital Display Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:04:22pm |
re: #92 tradewind
I don't know... didn't hear it, but I would guess that he meant don't ignore warnings not to carry on as usual. I can't imagine that he was talking about people with no escape option.
The tape will tell the tale tonight.. He said what I said he said...Nothing really upsets me..Boy that caught my attention and I stand by my post.
/This is from a guy that can remember Mandy's dress size she posted 20 months ago and can tell you what she was trying on that morning at 8am.
I recall what Beck said 15 minutes ago...Beck fucked up..
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Aceofwhat? Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:05:02pm |
re: #135 tradewind
I loved the NBC reporter asking the African American tea party attendee 'Tell me, (please!)... do you feel at all uncomfortable' ?
that interview, i will grant you, was fantastic.
now back to whether we should presume that Beck is acting in good faith or acting in accordance with every single other day he's been on the air...?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:05:18pm |
re: #141 HoosierHoops
What's Mandy's dress size?...
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:05:31pm |
Hmm, reducing our nuclear stockpile and proposing additional space exploration?
I got your heavy lift right here!
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:05:46pm |
re: #115 Rightwingconspirator
Just strikes me as jusfication.
I'd LOOOVE to go back to the moon, I'd just rather have our space $$$ go to things that would actually promote real knowledge and advantage.
The cost (at this point) of reaching/developing the moon is astronomical. We're better off putting that money into research and unmanned systems in the shortrun, until some alternative propulsion methods come on. The helium-3 thing could be tested with an unmanned probe, and anyways, just strikes me as a justification by people who want to go there anyways.
You know, confirmation bias.
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webevintage Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:06:16pm |
OT!
Great news for foster kids in Arkansas:
[Link: www.arktimes.com...]
Circuit Judge Chris Piazza ruled today that Act 1, an initiated act approved by voters in 2008 that bans any unmarried person living with a partner from serving as an adoptive parent, is unconstitutional, and amounts to an unwarranted invasion of privacy. Jerry Cox of the Family Council, the group who sponsored Act 1 and fought for its passage, called the decision "judicial tyranny" and says they plan to appeal the decision to the Arkansas Supreme Court.
Here is a copy of Judge Piazza's order. Piazza writes, "Due Process and Equal Protection are not hollow words without substance. They are rights enumerated in our constitution that must not be construed in such a way as to deny or disparage other rights retained by the people."
I know Cox and Friends will appeal this because it is really all about teh!gahy, but it is a win for the good guys in Arkansas.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:06:34pm |
re: #128 WindUpBird
it runs the gamut from the far right of the GOP to the Natural law party!
What the heck is that?
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:06:40pm |
re: #138 tradewind
The movement is deeply twisted at it roots, and deserves bashing.
It's only harmful for the nation, on a number of levels.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:06:44pm |
re: #138 tradewind
Not a tea party apologist. But don't enjoy seeing the indiscriminate tea party bashing , either.
when you find a picture of me hanging out at an event organized by white supremacists and paranoid conspiracy theorists , feel free to bash me :)
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Digital Display Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:08:02pm |
re: #143 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
What's Mandy's dress size?...
6P and she was trying on her old cheerleading dress that morning..And it fit!
/Hey she posted it..Don't blame me
*wink*
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:08:05pm |
re: #147 The Shadow Do
it runs the gamut from the far right of the GOP to the Natural law party!
What the heck is that?
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]I love weird political parties :D
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:08:28pm |
re: #127 The Shadow Do
That's true. Tremendous pride and excitement accompanied the whole grand adventure. An unforgettable era.
But we're done now. It is for the Chinese or the Russians to carry on.
Only if we continue to drop the ball.
However, what carrying the ball means requires understanding the boring physics of where we are technologically and what we need to know and do.
Honestly, as far as science is concerned, unmanned probes are the way to go for the foreseeable future. The most successful - scientific missions are things like Mariner, Voyager and Hubble.
Maintaining and improving our own heavy lift capability is important - and budgeted for by Obama.
In terms of manned missions going out beyond the moon however, there are fantastic technological barriers - and human physiological barriers - that need to be overcome. I am certainly all for doing that research, but I am not clear that is a bigger priority than funding fusion research or particle accelerators.
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Capitalist Tool Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:08:34pm |
re: #137 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
To think... my Toyota Highlander has more computing power than the Apollo spacecrafts...
SCIENCE! ENGINEERING! EGGHEADS! LABOR! BUREAUCRATS!
What they can do...
and a suspiciously high number of Toyota models have problems linked to suspicious on- board computers...
you're right about bureaucracies
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:09:00pm |
re: #145 windsagio
I read Mitchener's Space... I know it's a fictional account and all, but I seem to remember that the NASA folks were kind of pissed that Kennedy wanted to put a man on the moon...
Sending people makes the trips much more restrictive to what they can do un-manned.
The amount of money on the ship to keep people safe... boggles the mind.
I just remembered that... don't know why...
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:09:24pm |
It's difficult to take the claim seriously that Teahadis collectively have an above average education when they often can't even properly articulate what they are angry about, and when they can, it is usually fictional boogymen that they have no credible reference for.
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freetoken Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:10:01pm |
Cato's Love Doll waxing mindless again:
Palin Urges Canada to Boost Oil Production at Ontario Speech
Canada should boost oil production from the tar sands in Alberta to create more jobs and greater energy independence for North America, former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin said.“Ramp up development,” she told an audience in Hamilton, Ontario. “There’s an inherent link between energy and security.”
Palin, the 2008 Republican nominee for vice president, campaigned with a slogan of “drill baby, drill” to urge greater U.S. oil exploration. She spoke tonight at a fundraising dinner to an audience of about 900 people who paid as much as C$1,000 ($998) to attend.
Palin, 46, said American attitudes are changing ahead of November’s midterm congressional elections, demonstrated by the growth of the Tea Party movement seeking less government spending and fewer programs.
“There’s a shift in American politics right now,” Palin said. The tea parties “are a blast.”
[...]
Palin’s political action committee raised more than $400,000 during the first three months of 2010 and had about $925,000 in cash at the end of March, according to a U.S. Federal Election Commission report.
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:10:18pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:10:52pm |
re: #154 Capitalist Tool
and a suspiciously high number of Toyota models have problems linked to suspicious on- board computers...
you're right about bureaucracies
yeah... Toyota needs to put warning labels on the steering wheels... "If you're over 65? DON'T STOMP ON THE FUCKING ACCELERATOR THINKING IT'S THE FUCKING BRAKE!"
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:11:03pm |
re: #145 windsagio
H3 was already found. Its attributes are known. Why pretend we have to find out again what we already have found? Callout to Ludwig or Naso-Can you help me here on Helium3 as a future fuel?
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:11:14pm |
re: #156 Slumbering Behemoth
I'm prone to think its a political misinformation thing; too much Rush and Glenn.
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tradewind Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:11:30pm |
re: #156 Slumbering Behemoth
Since it was published by the NYT, I doubt they went out of their way to pad any resumes .//
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Randall Gross Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:11:41pm |
Manned vs. Unmanned Spaceflight - the immediate answer is that we need to continue to do both.
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freetoken Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:12:42pm |
re: #160 Rightwingconspirator
Fusion is a fantasy ... the silver bullet that never arrives.
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:12:54pm |
re: #160 Rightwingconspirator
I missed that part in the article you posted, I thought it was theoretical :p
That being said, going out, mining it, and sending it back is essentially insane under current technology.
Lets get fusion that works before we start worrying about fuel >>
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:13:09pm |
re: #157 freetoken
I shall use this for a jumping off point.
All together, this is around 20 minutes of your time. Please watch these videos.
The first video is from AAAS, the American Association for the Advancement of Science. AAAS is one of the flagship scientific organizations of America and for that matter the world. They publish the journal Science.
They have a video that does not mince words or pull punches about AGW and it tells you what you can do. If you want a real, this is what the scientists are begging you to hear, video with an unshakable pedigree, this is it.
The second video (in two parts) is from National Geographic. It goes into what happens when you raise the temperature by one degree, then two, then three all the way out to six degrees. The results are not pretty.
If you want to see what that world looks like, then watch these videos. Again, the science is sound and there are no punches pulled. Seeing it visualized is perhaps much more "real" for many than looking at graphs and inferring things from data. This is the stark reality.
Part one
Part two
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Hengineer Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:14:07pm |
Sorry to go off-topic but we came back from deployment today! I'm now in a hotel room with my girlfriend right now.
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Mocking Jay Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:14:34pm |
re: #167 Hengineer
Sorry to go off-topic but we came back from deployment today! I'm now in a hotel room with my girlfriend right now.
Are we getting a play-by-play?
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Digital Display Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:15:02pm |
re: #167 Hengineer
Sorry to go off-topic but we came back from deployment today! I'm now in a hotel room with my girlfriend right now.
TURN ON THE WEB CAM!
/
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Capitalist Tool Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:15:22pm |
re: #167 Hengineer
Sorry to go off-topic but we came back from deployment today! I'm now in a hotel room with my girlfriend right now.
Good for you. Way to go. Here's a shot of Four Roses just for you, and here's another for your lady.
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Hengineer Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:15:33pm |
re: #169 JasonA
Are we getting a play-by-play?
oh we've already finished round one.
Hengineer 1 Girlfriend 0
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:16:08pm |
As shown over and over again, it's coming from the top down.
Gingrich may have delivered the quote of the day when he said, "I think this country is on the edge of a rebellion." In a follow-up with an audience member, he clarified saying: "When I said a rebellion, I meant a political rebellion -- exactly what Jefferson called for."
As he did at last week's Southern Republican Leadership Conference in New Orleans, Gingrich described the current administration as a "secular, socialist regime" -- citing the health-care law (which he wants to repeal) as an example. He also said he believes the GOP will win in 2010 and 2012, but that it needs to become the "party of yes."
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:16:11pm |
re: #162 tradewind
Those who answered that poll, on the other hand...
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:16:36pm |
re: #164 freetoken
Fusion is a fantasy ... the silver bullet that never arrives.
It is most certainly not a fantasy. It is a difficult engineering problem that has been very strongly tossed on the seas of politics. It is hard to do massive and complex research projects when your funding comes in fits of two years only to vanish and then re-appear three years later - for over thirty years.
If you really want to get into it, you have the DoD and the DoE pushing very hard for it and the pet senators politicians of the oil lobby trying very hard to kill it.
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Capitalist Tool Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:16:38pm |
re: #172 Hengineer
oh we've already finished round one.
Hengineer 1 Girlfriend 0
You'll really be gettin' somewhere when it's Hengineer 2 Girlfriend 37
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:16:47pm |
re: #158 windsagio
Wrong. You use moon program technology today. No program, no technological advance. Unmanned is great for where we can not yet go. I love it. I could care less if we walk on the moon. I want the fuel source, the low gravity platform for research. Much of that can be robotic. We have to learn how to live off earth. The moon can teach us that. Way easier than Mars. We need manned and unmanned. Sorry, there seems to be no gender neutral word to use there.
But nothing beats a trained human on the spot for exploration or repairs. How did we fix Hubble? With people. How will we move certain industrial processes off earth? With people. How do you get them there? Heavy lift, that we already had in the 1960's.
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Hengineer Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:17:07pm |
re: #177 Capitalist Tool
You'll really be gettin' somewhere when it's Hengineer 2 Girlfriend 37
haha well if you're counting that its hengineer 1 girlfriend 5 right now
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:17:21pm |
re: #167 Hengineer
Awesome! Have all the crazy fun you are entitled to, then have some more.
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tradewind Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:17:34pm |
re: #141 HoosierHoops
Gawdamighty, I hope that the simplest explanation is the correct one.... that he meant ' don't ignore warnings of danger and carry on as if there were none'. I would really, really hate to think that he meant to attach any disdainful or mean-spirited motive to such a tragedy. If he misspoke, it sucks, and I would expect he would acknowledge it. Otherwise, damn.
In any case, it doesn't sound like a well thought out thing to say no matter what.
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:17:55pm |
re: #153 LudwigVanQuixote
Can we get H3 without sending people? Even enough to do big tests?
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Mocking Jay Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:17:58pm |
re: #172 Hengineer
oh we've already finished round one.
Hengineer 1 Girlfriend 0
Wait, if she loses does that mean you've done a bad job? :P
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:18:03pm |
re: #164 freetoken
Fusion is a fantasy ... the silver bullet that never arrives.
No kidding... at least from the science I've read... yet we've dumped 3.5 billion into that lab in Ca. (JPL I think, read the article in Discovery) in the last 10 years... yet I read that so many scientist say it's a fairy tale.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:18:07pm |
re: #167 Hengineer
Sorry to go off-topic but we came back from deployment today! I'm now in a hotel room with my girlfriend right now.
Welcome home!
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:18:16pm |
re: #167 Hengineer
Sorry to go off-topic but we came back from deployment today! I'm now in a hotel room with my girlfriend right now.
1. Thank God you are back safe!
2. WTF are you doing talking to us?
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The Shadow Do Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:18:19pm |
re: #153 LudwigVanQuixote
Only if we continue to drop the ball.
However, what carrying the ball means requires understanding the boring physics of where we are technologically and what we need to know and do.
Honestly, as far as science is concerned, unmanned probes are the way to go for the foreseeable future. The most successful - scientific missions are things like Mariner, Voyager and Hubble.
Maintaining and improving our own heavy lift capability is important - and budgeted for by Obama.
In terms of manned missions going out beyond the moon however, there are fantastic technological barriers - and human physiological barriers - that need to be overcome. I am certainly all for doing that research, but I am not clear that is a bigger priority than funding fusion research or particle accelerators.
Doesn't all that science ultimately tie together. I don't understand neglecting manned flight. Why is it either/or aside from the budgetary thing.
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tradewind Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:18:27pm |
re: #166 LudwigVanQuixote
Hey Ludwig. Sucks about that volcano, doesn't it? Bet the Norwegian president is thinking ' Revenge of the Climate summit'.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:18:35pm |
re: #183 Rightwingconspirator
Can we get H3 without sending people? Even enough to do big tests?
We can make it here.
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Mocking Jay Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:18:53pm |
re: #180 Hengineer
haha well if you're counting that its hengineer 1 girlfriend 5 right now
Dude, you're doing it wrong. Put the laptop down.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:18:56pm |
re: #189 tradewind
Hey Ludwig. Sucks about that volcano, doesn't it? Bet the Norwegian president is thinking ' Revenge of the Climate summit'.
Huh?
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keloyd Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:18:58pm |
re: #154 Capitalist Tool
and a suspiciously high number of Toyota models have problems linked to suspicious on- board computers...
you're right about bureaucracies
and ALL of the Toyota problems are linked to drivers who do not shift into neutral. What am I missing?
That sad case where a man and his family who died while a cell phone recorded the whole thing - I can only believe the driver was 1. not sober, 2. not fit to drive from some other chemical issue, 3. suicidal despite the appearance otherwise, or 4. just very very stupid.
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Digital Display Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:19:09pm |
re: #182 tradewind
Gawdamighty, I hope that the simplest explanation is the correct one... that he meant ' don't ignore warnings of danger and carry on as if there were none'. I would really, really hate to think that he meant to attach any disdainful or mean-spirited motive to such a tragedy. If he misspoke, it sucks, and I would expect he would acknowledge it. Otherwise, damn.
In any case, it doesn't sound like a well thought out thing to say no matter what.
I hope so also.. There were no dumb people at ground zero...
Use another example Beck...
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:19:13pm |
re: #182 tradewind
I like how you can add your own meaning to someone elses words and call that "the simplest explanation". Nice trick.
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Capitalist Tool Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:19:22pm |
re: #180 Hengineer
haha well if you're counting that its hengineer 1 girlfriend 5 right now
Well, then here's another shot o' Four Roses to you!
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:19:27pm |
re: #178 Rightwingconspirator
You're really really underestimating the cost and difficulty. The moon will be there for a while, lets do our research efficiently instead of going for the feel-good route.
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tradewind Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:19:46pm |
re: #192 LudwigVanQuixote
The president of Norway is stuck in an airport, running the country from an Ipad, due to volcanic ash from Iceland.
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freetoken Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:20:16pm |
re: #174 Stanley Sea
Gingrich has been working the religious crowd intensely over the last year or so, appearing at prayer rallies, etc.
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shiplord kirel Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:20:22pm |
Obama's asteroid goal: tougher, riskier than moon
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. — Landing a man on the moon was a towering achievement. Now the president has given NASA an even harder job, one with a certain Hollywood quality: sending astronauts to an asteroid, a giant speeding rock, just 15 years from now.Space experts say such a voyage could take several months longer than a journey to the moon and entail far greater dangers.
"It is really the hardest thing we can do," NASA Administrator Charles Bolden said.
Going to an asteroid could provide vital training for an eventual mission to Mars. It might help unlock the secrets of how our solar system formed. And it could give mankind the know-how to do something that has been accomplished only in the movies by a few square-jawed, squinty-eyed heroes: saving the Earth from a collision with a killer asteroid.
"You could be saving humankind. That's worthy, isn't it?" said Bill Nye, TV's Science Guy and vice president of the Planetary Society.
President Barack Obama outlined NASA's new path during a visit to the Kennedy Space Center on Thursday.
"By 2025, we expect new spacecraft designed for long journeys to allow us to begin the first-ever crewed missions beyond the moon into deep space," he said. "We'll start by sending astronauts to an asteroid for the first time in history."
On the day the president announced the goal, a NASA task force of scientists, engineers and ex-astronauts was meeting in Boston to work on a plan to protect Earth from a cataclysmic collision with an asteroid or a comet.
Freepers respond!
Luddite goobers
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Hengineer Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:20:25pm |
re: #191 JasonA
Dude, you're doing it wrong. Put the laptop down.
Haha no round one is completed. We have all weekend before we have to get back to work.
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:20:38pm |
re: #188 The Shadow Do
Why is it either/or aside from the budgetary thing.
Important part highlighted.
We don't have infinite money to throw at NASA, we need to put it where it'll do the most good.
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:21:35pm |
re: #190 LudwigVanQuixote
Does it work? Does it have the properties we need?
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tradewind Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:21:38pm |
re: #192 LudwigVanQuixote
[Link: www.nydailynews.com...]
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tradewind Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:22:49pm |
re: #196 Slumbering Behemoth
I don't like how the first reaction would be to assume that someone meant the worst.
Maybe I should have said ' the normal human reaction ' instead of the simplest.
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:23:24pm |
re: #198 windsagio
Honestly I'd feel good if we simply kept manned flight going. How do you feel about long term high orbit research?
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freetoken Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:23:34pm |
re: #206 Rightwingconspirator
From your link:
While still theoretical, nuclear fusion is touted as a safer, more sustainable way to generate nuclear energy: Fusion plants produce much less radioactive waste, especially if powered by helium-3. But experts say commercial-sized fusion reactors are at least 50 years away.
Fusion reactors are always 50 years away.
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:23:34pm |
re: #206 Rightwingconspirator
I don't think it works that way :p
An isotope is an isotope, in general, regardless of its origin.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:23:51pm |
re: #188 The Shadow Do
Doesn't all that science ultimately tie together. I don't understand neglecting manned flight. Why is it either/or aside from the budgetary thing.
Yes it does tie together, and I am certainly all for doing any fundamental research.
That really is the issue though. There are fundamental limits of how much you can launch using conventional rockets. Look at the video here for example. Notice what percent of the Saturn V is the part that actually made it to the moon and how much is used to even get up there.
Humans need lots of things to survive and the moon hop is a very short trip.
We simply can not and do not have the technology to seriously consider a mars mission without developing more advanced forms of propulsion.
Now I am all for working on that. However, that is something we do here - not with manned missions that are primarily there to wave the flag from orbit.
Let me be very blunt. Name one important bit of research that the ISS has given us, or one important breakthrough it has made in advancing us to actually getting further out into space?
The technology for the next steps is just not here yet.
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:24:39pm |
re: #209 Rightwingconspirator
There's still funding for that, just not billions thrown into the seriously messed up constellation program. I'm very okay with a Russian/private firm model for getting us up for the next decade or so.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:25:16pm |
Copyediting Tea Party protest signs
PROBLEM: Missing letters in 'extremey' and 'amesty.' 'A' should be 'an.' SOLUTION: Tighter border security could prevent illegal immigrants from stealing American consonants.
Ha!
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freetoken Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:26:03pm |
re: #212 LudwigVanQuixote
To be fair to the ISS, it's reason for existence originally was more diplomatic than scientific.
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ryannon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:26:40pm |
re: #158 windsagio
Trust the science guy to put the subject better than I can >>
re: #155 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
A man on the moon was a purely political thing, and in the terms of the cold war, was worth it.
Scientifically, it was largely a waste.
I'm not enough of a scientist to evaluate how much of a waste it was, but in the eyes of the world, it was and still is among the greatest things the United States ever did. It was as if we had invented the wheel right in front of the whole planet.
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darthstar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:27:08pm |
re: #137 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
To think... my Toyota Highlander has more computing power than the Apollo spacecrafts...
SCIENCE! ENGINEERING! EGGHEADS! LABOR! BUREAUCRATS!
What they can do...
Your iPhone/Blackberry/Droid has far more computing power than the first space shuttles did.
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webevintage Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:27:11pm |
re: #214 Killgore Trout
Like I said on another thread, there should be roving groups of Grammer!!Spelling Police armed with large red markers at Tea Party rallies ready and willing to do on the spot copy editing.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:27:37pm |
re: #202 shiplord kirel
Obama's asteroid goal: tougher, riskier than moon
Freepers respond!
Luddite goobers
Actually Obama's space plan is very sound in many ways - because he listened to the scientific community. He actually increased NASA's budget by 6 billion per year and has started work on a new heavy lift system.
The fact is that W had decided to retire the shuttle with absolutely no replacement plan firmly in place
Obama is fixing that as well.
Of course, leave it to Fox to do its best to distort the facts.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:28:08pm |
re: #208 tradewind
This is Glenn Beck we are talking about, for crying out loud. His track record of outrageous buffoonery, conspiracy mongering, Bircher promoting, histrionic hyperbole, historical revisionism, and downright spewing bullshit speaks for itself.
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:28:24pm |
re: #212 LudwigVanQuixote
And that next step, to my understanding, is what the Obama space plan is really all about.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:28:24pm |
re: #215 freetoken
To be fair to the ISS, it's reason for existence originally was more diplomatic than scientific.
OK that is my point entirely. It serves no scientific or technological purpose. I personally feel that those funds could have launched about three dozen Hubbles.
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Hengineer Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:28:34pm |
so, while on deployment we only got a little bit of news. what'd I miss? if glenn beck is right, how come the world is still spinning?
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:28:56pm |
re: #221 windsagio
And that next step, to my understanding, is what the Obama space plan is really all about.
It is.
Of course, the one thing that Obama does is listen to actual experts in science. That really pisses off the right.
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:29:17pm |
re: #213 windsagio
Its just outsourcing again. That has been very damaging to this nation. Aerospace manufacturing helps us here in the ground. You see to prefer it not be the US that gets those benefits.
re: #210 freetoken
Higher goals become more advanced results.
The day we won WW2, what was 50 years away that serves us well now? Can you even count them?
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:29:33pm |
re: #223 Hengineer
so, while on deployment we only got a little bit of news. what'd I miss? if glenn beck is right, how come the world is still spinning?
You answered your own question.
Shouldn't you be snogging the woman right now?
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:29:36pm |
re: #224 LudwigVanQuixote
I shouldn't, but they like "Deciders who make Decisions" more than people that listen to experts :D
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:30:15pm |
re: #210 freetoken
From your link:
Fusion reactors are always 50 years away.
[Link: www.newsweek.com...]
But other scientists warn me that this is all just a high-tech fantasy. They say Moses is full of a certain kind of non-nuclear fuel, and that I should not believe anything he and his colleagues tell me. "They're snake-oil salesmen," says Thomas Cochran, senior scientist with the Natural Resources Defense Council, which has tracked the NIF project from its inception in 1997. Cochran says the NIF laser is still not powerful enough. Even if it were, he says, "these machines are just going to be too big, and too costly, and they'll never be competitive." Other critics, like Stephen Bodner, a Ph.D. physicist who was director of laser-fusion research at the Naval Research Laboratory in Washington, D.C., until his retirement in 1999, say Moses's team has downplayed such technical problems as its inability to focus NIF's laser on a tiny target.
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Digital Display Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:30:18pm |
re: #192 LudwigVanQuixote
Huh?
Hi You...Got a link for you.. The 13 things that saved Apollo 13
[Link: www.universetoday.com...]
One of the most fascinating stories is about a young NASA contractor that wondered what would happen if all the Navigation systems crashed.. And you couldn't use a sexton to plot star positions in space..Which was crazy..You are in space.. But what would you do? And it turned out after the explosion that was so much debris outside the window...You couldn't tell what was a star or what was shiny drops of waste...
NASA looked at it and included the math in the computer.. That is how Apollo came home.. From a kid asking what if?
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Hengineer Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:30:30pm |
re: #226 LudwigVanQuixote
You answered your own question.
Shouldn't you be snogging the woman right now?
Hengineers' batteries need to recharge, heh.
besides she's on the rag so its kinda limiting our "snogging".
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:31:28pm |
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webevintage Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:31:36pm |
I probably don't know enough to comment (not that that ever stopped me before) but it seems like a good thing to move on pass manned missions to the moon and begin work on what will get future humans out there to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before.
(BTW Moon was a really good movie)
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Ojoe Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:31:37pm |
Goldman Sachs charged with fraud.
May they be convicted, and rot in the federal pen.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:31:44pm |
re: #157 freetoken
Cato's Love Doll waxing mindless again:
Palin Urges Canada to Boost Oil Production at Ontario Speech
She's stopped waxing me since I started courting Summer.
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:32:02pm |
re: #228 Walter L. Newton
Seems to me that Fusion is still worth the research money, but we can't expect it anytime soon, or pin our hopes on it. Its more a longterm science for its own sake kinda thing.
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darthstar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:32:10pm |
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:32:14pm |
re: #236 windsagio
and, hell, we MIGHT figure it out at that >>
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:33:04pm |
re: #164 freetoken
So was flight. For centuries.
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freetoken Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:33:44pm |
re: #222 LudwigVanQuixote
To GHWB's credit, working with Russia in an long range space goal was seen as a way to stabilize the nascent Russian democracy.
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:33:50pm |
re: #230 Hengineer
Hengineers' batteries need to recharge, heh.
besides she's on the rag so its kinda limiting our "snogging".
Well, I could think of several other activities that....nevermind.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:33:50pm |
re: #236 windsagio
Seems to me that Fusion is still worth the research money, but we can't expect it anytime soon, or pin our hopes on it. Its more a longterm science for its own sake kinda thing.
I have no idea... I read that article when it first came out, noticed that there were certainly respected scientist that say fusion is all snake-oil. They certainly know better than me.
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webevintage Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:34:13pm |
re: #225 Rightwingconspirator
Its just outsourcing again. That has been very damaging to this nation. Aerospace manufacturing helps us here in the ground. You see to prefer it not be the US that gets those benefits.
But why would changing the direction mean that all Aerospace manufacturing in the US would stop?
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darthstar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:34:56pm |
re: #230 Hengineer
Hengineers' batteries need to recharge, heh.
besides she's on the rag so its kinda limiting our "snogging".
Sex during a woman's cycle helps with her cramping. Show her you really love her...and enjoy.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:36:04pm |
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Hengineer Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:36:19pm |
re: #245 darthstar
Sex during a woman's cycle helps with her cramping. Show her you really love her...and enjoy.
Oh trust me, I am! :)
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tradewind Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:36:25pm |
re: #230 Hengineer
ZOMG.
Someone get the man a sling for those knuckles.......
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Capitalist Tool Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:36:41pm |
re: #245 darthstar
read: helps some women... they'll let you know how it works for them
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:36:46pm |
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:36:53pm |
re: #198 windsagio
Underestimating costs? Estimate this-Designing, testing and producing your heavy lift racket once, then estimate doing that all over again. If money is the issue, you logically would agree we never should have abandoned heavy lift at all, and certainly not manned flight as per W. Every penny of doing that again could have gone into whatever you like.
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:36:55pm |
This thread took an interesting turn all of a sudden >>
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:37:01pm |
re: #234 Ojoe
Goldman Sachs charged with fraud.
May they be convicted, and rot in the federal pen.
As some apologists pointed out on the last thread, the charges are civil, not criminal.
There is no civil fine that GS could not afford to pay as a minor writeoff.
I think there are different rules for white guys with good educations in ill-fitting tailored suits with $500 ties and friends in high places than for the rest of us.
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darthstar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:37:02pm |
re: #93 Alouette
I played Farmville on Facebook for a while, but stopped after I realized how utterly freaking lame it was.
I played farmtown for a while, and am currently giving up on Island Paradise...it was fun at first, as a bunch of us started around the same time so we were competing with each other on levelling up...but those games get old pretty fast. I now hide all their status updates.
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:37:50pm |
re: #252 Rightwingconspirator
Whether scrapping the Saturn V was a mistake has nothing to do with this, as its in the past, and what's done, as they say, is done.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:38:18pm |
re: #241 freetoken
To GHWB's credit, working with Russia in an long range space goal was seen as a way to stabilize the nascent Russian democracy.
Yes and it also gave us the advantage of employing Russian techs who might otherwise seel their services to really bad people. I am not opposed to working with the Russian space agency per se. I am opposed to the lies and distortions that Fox and the right are making out of this.
I am also opposed to the fact that there is a clear way forward if you honestly want a viable space program, and that Obama is getting shit for being the first president in a long time to actually try to go that way.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:38:20pm |
re: #204 windsagio
Important part highlighted.
We don't have infinite money to throw at NASA, we need to put it where it'll do the most good.
Put politics aside on space develoment. I do. It is obviously less expensive in the short run to focus on quantiy and not quality missions. This is the program we have been operating under for quite a few years now.
One also has to consider the risk/reward equation. If you are overly conservative you will eschew manned flight in favor of a multitude of little missions. This will eventually lead to America being the last buggy whip producer among advanced nations however.
The ability to 'do stuff' will only proceed from those who venture outside the easy.
Personally, I think it should not be seen as an 'either/or'.
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:39:46pm |
re: #258 The Shadow Do
To do anything worthwhile, we need a better propulsion system first.
Until that point, unmanned missions are simply more useful and cheaper than manned ones.
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tradewind Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:40:17pm |
re: #253 windsagio
From Gamer Geekout to Cavemannerisms. Runs the gamut today for sure.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:40:47pm |
re: #212 LudwigVanQuixote
Yes it does tie together, and I am certainly all for doing any fundamental research.
That really is the issue though. There are fundamental limits of how much you can launch using conventional rockets. Look at the video here for example. Notice what percent of the Saturn V is the part that actually made it to the moon and how much is used to even get up there.
Humans need lots of things to survive and the moon hop is a very short trip.
We simply can not and do not have the technology to seriously consider a mars mission without developing more advanced forms of propulsion.
Now I am all for working on that. However, that is something we do here - not with manned missions that are primarily there to wave the flag from orbit.
Let me be very blunt. Name one important bit of research that the ISS has given us, or one important breakthrough it has made in advancing us to actually getting further out into space?
The technology for the next steps is just not here yet.
For what it's worth, I have always seen the ISS as a cop out to pushing the technology further. I think that is just as it has turned out as well.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:41:03pm |
re: #258 The Shadow Do
Put politics aside on space develoment. I do. It is obviously less expensive in the short run to focus on quantiy and not quality missions. This is the program we have been operating under for quite a few years now.
One also has to consider the risk/reward equation. If you are overly conservative you will eschew manned flight in favor of a multitude of little missions. This will eventually lead to America being the last buggy whip producer among advanced nations however.
The ability to 'do stuff' will only proceed from those who venture outside the easy.
Personally, I think it should not be seen as an 'either/or'.
Yes but this is where you have it exactly backwards.
The real science gets done by the probes and it will continue to be that way until we have vastly more advanced drive systems.
I am all for propulsion systems research.
However, talking about manned missions before you have that propulsion system in hand is like talking about winning the Indy 500 before you have a working motor for your car.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:41:04pm |
re: #255 darthstar
I played farmtown for a while, and am currently giving up on Island Paradise...it was fun at first, as a bunch of us started around the same time so we were competing with each other on levelling up...but those games get old pretty fast. I now hide all their status updates.
I like that on Facebook you can now choose between hiding your perfectly decent, if boring, friends, and hiding the stupid games and apps they frequent.
If you're my boring friend, it's no crime - I just scroll over your inane posts. Being able to exclude Farmvillle and Mafia wars without excluding your boring friends was a stroke of genius on FB's part.
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goddamnedfrank Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:41:38pm |
re: #188 The Shadow Do
Doesn't all that science ultimately tie together. I don't understand neglecting manned flight. Why is it either/or aside from the budgetary thing.
All of the cutting edge investigative missions are being done by robots. The mars' explorers exceeded their expected mission lifetimes by fantastic margins. Another thing is that stronauts tend to develop cataracts, even more so away from the Earth's magnetic field, and that's probably the best thing that cosmic radiation does to them. Landing on and digging into the moon is now a job for robots, once a deep enough base is established to shield and protect its inhabitants we can start sending people off world again. Doing so now offers too little payback for too much risk at an insanely inflated cost. It isn't responsible either financially or ethically and currently returns less knowledge than robotic missions. Then next time we go to the moon it should be to stay, and we need to prepare if we're going to do that.
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tradewind Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:42:30pm |
re: #254 Cato the Elder
Write your Congresspersons, and tell them no company is Too Big To Fail.
They're trying to codify the safety net.
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:42:35pm |
re: #244 webevintage
The Russians will build and run the manned program. Instead of us. I never said "all".
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Ojoe Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:44:39pm |
re: #254 Cato the Elder
If one considers the misery they have caused, they deserve a really big penalty.
"He who does not punish evil commands it to be one."
— Leonardo
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freetoken Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:45:09pm |
Cato's Love Doll† would not be happy with BP investors:
BP pledges not to use open-pit mining at Canadian oil sands sites
Tony Hayward, BP's chief executive, has attempted to dampen growing investor anger over its oil sands activities by publicly pledging for the first time not to use mining techniques that devastate the landscape.
But the pledge was not enough to head off a significant rebellion from a growing group of increasingly environmentally aware investors at its annual general meeting today.
†Denial only makes it worse
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:45:13pm |
re: #264 goddamnedfrank
All of the cutting edge investigative missions are being done by robots. The mars' explorers exceeded their expected mission lifetimes by fantastic margins. Another thing is that stronauts tend to develop cataracts, even more so away from the Earth's magnetic field, and that's probably the best thing that cosmic radiation does to them. Landing on and digging into the moon is now a job for robots, once a deep enough base is established to shield and protect its inhabitants we can start sending people off world again. Doing so now offers too little payback for too much risk at an insanely inflated cost. It isn't responsible either financially or ethically and currently returns less knowledge than robotic missions. Then next time we go to the moon it should be to stay, and we need to prepare if we're going to do that.
The physiological barriers of prolonged space flight are another thing that we simply do not know how to adequately address. A Mars hop is not a 10 day trip. It is a several year mission.
Bone loss from reduces gravity, muscle depletion cataracts and the risk of getting fired to death by a solar burst are not things we can seriously address at the moment.
Now if we had a way to really lift a heavy ship and get their very fast, that would mitigate an awful lot. We simply do not have that technology yet.
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:45:28pm |
re: #256 windsagio
If it had nothing to do with this we would not be building another way to do it. You seem to be reading some right wingy anti Obama thing into my head. Well now that I have slammed two previous administrations for getting us into this jam, would you please agree my motives are pro US space tech not anti Obama?
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Digital Display Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:45:48pm |
The Hoopsters Space program plan
Send robots to the moon..Find the water..Built there.. In 20 years have a fully functional moon base as a launching pad to Mars and the Solar system..
The energy to launch from the moon makes it a prime location.
Instead of that's one small step for man...
It's will be:
Daddy is home bitches!
Let's get this space party started!
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Mocking Jay Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:45:52pm |
re: #267 Ojoe
If one considers the misery they have caused, they deserve a really big penalty.
"He who does not punish evil commands it to be one."
— Leonardo
It's a nice quote, but evil can be a very subjective word sometimes.
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Ojoe Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:46:55pm |
re: #272 JasonA
True, subjective sometimes, but ask the unemployed here how it is going for them.
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Randall Gross Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:47:46pm |
It's not an either or proposition: to anyone who thinks long term about the future it's pretty obvious that both manned and unmanned are absolutely needed. Case in point:
The ooohing and ahhhing we are doing over Hubble pictures and the new deep space imaging is only exceeded in magnitude by the new discoveries they have led us to since Hubble's repair. Hubble is robotic, and it took Humans to keep it in operation and to upgrade it. We need both. Once we really do start capturing asteroids, then we will need people there as well.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:49:21pm |
re: #271 HoosierHoops
The Hoopsters Space program plan
Send robots to the moon..Find the water..Built there.. In 20 years have a fully functional moon base as a launching pad to Mars and the Solar system..
The energy to launch from the moon makes it a prime location.
Instead of that's one small step for man...
It's will be:
Daddy is home bitches!
Let's get this space party started!
I like the plan.
Certainly a permanent moon base would be a stepping stone to learning how to build such a base further out. You could also set up a very large observatory on the dark side of the moon that would out perform any orbiting telescope of any variety.
However, you also have to seriously worry about the health of the astronauts. It would be a test bed technology for making stays in space more safe.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:49:27pm |
re: #2 HoosierHoops
I'm pretty fond of the idea of launching to the moon and establishing it as a jumping off point for missions elsewhere in the solar system. Still have other factors to overcome as others have mentioned but the moon seems to be the place to start.
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tradewind Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:49:55pm |
re: #193 keloyd
Not so much. The driver was a California Highway Patrol officer who was taking his family to his thirteen year old's soccer match.
But since then, a lot of copycat cases have been faked in an effort to cash in.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:49:56pm |
re: #269 LudwigVanQuixote
PIMF
The physiological barriers of prolonged space flight are another thing that we simply do not know how to adequately address. A Mars hop is not a 10 day trip. It is a several year mission.
Bone loss from reduced gravity, muscle depletion cataracts and the risk of getting fired to death by a solar burst are not things we can seriously address at the moment.
Now if we had a way to really lift a heavy ship and get their very fast, that would mitigate an awful lot. We simply do not have that technology yet.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:50:07pm |
FWIW numbers are messing up.
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Mocking Jay Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:50:44pm |
A nice Kos diary for your enjoyment:
Update2 (now w/hate mail + Digg link) Tea partying in Ann Arbor - Waffles are delicious!
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:51:09pm |
re: #270 Rightwingconspirator
If it had nothing to do with this we would not be building another way to do it. You seem to be reading some right wingy anti Obama thing into my head. Well now that I have slammed two previous administrations for getting us into this jam, would you please agree my motives are pro US space tech not anti Obama?
Not at all. I've just been raring to have this very conversation since yesterday :p
I'm just going out of my way to praise him because he's making the hard choices that no other president has been willing to make.
I don't think your being critical of Obama, I just disagree with you on the issue of space exploration and have alot to say on the subject :D
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goddamnedfrank Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:53:10pm |
re: #269 LudwigVanQuixote
The physiological barriers of prolonged space flight are another thing that we simply do not know how to adequately address. A Mars hop is not a 10 day trip. It is a several year mission.
Bone loss from reduces gravity, muscle depletion cataracts and the risk of getting fired to death by a solar burst are not things we can seriously address at the moment.
Now if we had a way to really lift a heavy ship and get their very fast, that would mitigate an awful lot. We simply do not have that technology yet.
If we prioritized large scale nanotube production we could quite feasibly build a space elevator within fifteen to twenty years. It would be even easier to build a companion elevator on the moon. We need to get away from chemical rockets if we're going to get any economy of scale going with our off world presence.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:53:28pm |
For thousands of years we floated around in wooden boats. We made them bigger, we added more guns, more sails, etc. And then came the Monitor and the Merrimack. And then things changed.
We have been in the wooden boat stage since Apollo 11. Probably be there for as far as the eye can see too.re: #262 LudwigVanQuixote
Yes but this is where you have it exactly backwards.
The real science gets done by the probes and it will continue to be that way until we have vastly more advanced drive systems.
I am all for propulsion systems research.
However, talking about manned missions before you have that propulsion system in hand is like talking about winning the Indy 500 before you have a working motor for your car.
Will there be an advance propulsion system without the end goal plainly defined? Or is this destined to be an endless chicken or egg thing?
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:53:47pm |
Actor Danny Glover, 11 others arrested in Md.
Glover has gone on record over the arrest, stating "I'm getting too old for this shit."
/
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:55:50pm |
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:56:32pm |
re: #286 The Shadow Do
There are plenty of goals man, take your pick :D
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freetoken Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:57:14pm |
Let me (gently) step on the toes of the gun people here:
Arizona to allow concealed guns without permit
Gov. Jan Brewer has signed into law a bill making Arizona the third state to not require a permit to carry a concealed weapon.
[...]
Eliminating Arizona's permit requirement will allow people 21 or older to forego background checks and classes that are now required to carry a concealed weapon.
Supporters say the bill promotes constitutional rights and allows people to protect themselves from criminals. Critics worry it will lead to more shootings as people with less training have more access to guns.
So let me see if I get this correctly... If I am a convicted felon, or a diagnosed suicidal mental patient, it will be just fine for me to buy a gun in AZ?
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Racer X Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:57:43pm |
Star Date 2197.3
The autonomous robots who have taken over all moon-based operations have fired another round of missiles at Earth. No one knows why the robots banded together and attacked Earth. There has been no communication from the robots since the first signs of a malfunction in 2190.
The space ship "Trojan" and it's crew of 17 were lost after they were spotted and fired upon by the Moon robots. The President of the Earth Federation has indicated the only other option would be to fire M92 Lasers at the Moon Base, effectively destroying the base and setting back the Moon Colonization program for decades again.
End.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:58:13pm |
re: #291 freetoken
Let me (gently) step on the toes of the gun people here:
Arizona to allow concealed guns without permit
So let me see if I get this correctly... If I am a convicted felon, or a diagnosed suicidal mental patient, it will be just fine for me to buy a gun in AZ?
lol Arizona
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:58:53pm |
re: #291 freetoken
Let me (gently) step on the toes of the gun people here:
Arizona to allow concealed guns without permit
So let me see if I get this correctly... If I am a convicted felon, or a diagnosed suicidal mental patient, it will be just fine for me to buy a gun in AZ?
No. You'll still need to follow whatever regulations are in place to own a gun, but you will be able to carry it concealled without needing additional training or licensing.
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shiplord kirel Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:59:15pm |
re: #225 Rightwingconspirator
Its just outsourcing again. That has been very damaging to this nation. Aerospace manufacturing helps us here in the ground. You see to prefer it not be the US that gets those benefits.
SpaceX, which has a NASA contract for Space Station re-supply missions, is an American company. Activity there is actually accelerating with the success of their Falcon series rockets. Demonstration flights for this will begin this year, including a rendesvous and docking with the ISS. The new Falcon 9 and SpaceX's in-house Dragon capsule will be the vehicles for the ISS contract. The current contract does not include the transportation of people but that is planned for a follow-on contract and could be done much sooner if a problem develops with the Russians.
Buying hardware from contractors is not outsourcing. The Apollo capsule was built by North American aviation, the Saturn Vs by Boeing. The Saturns and many other early rockets were designed in house by the von Braun team but contracted out for construction. Other long-time NASA rockets, like Atlas and Delta, were designed by contractors (General Dynamics and Douglas respectively. NASA has never had any manufacturing capability.
The Space Shuttle is also a North American (Rockwell) product, design and all. Most space shuttle operations are, and have always been, in the hands of various contractors.
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Mocking Jay Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:59:28pm |
re: #291 freetoken
Let me (gently) step on the toes of the gun people here:
Arizona to allow concealed guns without permit
So let me see if I get this correctly... If I am a convicted felon, or a diagnosed suicidal mental patient, it will be just fine for me to buy a gun in AZ?
Anyone feel like doing a 100% accurate recreation of the gunfight at the O.K. Corral??
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Hengineer Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:59:32pm |
Apologies for the earlier indiscretion.
She went out to work out I'm kinda pooped heh.
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freetoken Fri, Apr 16, 2010 3:59:51pm |
re: #294 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
The news story did not make that clear. So, the background checks are still in place for purchase?
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The Shadow Do Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:01:19pm |
re: #290 windsagio
There are plenty of goals man, take your pick :D
Here is one:
United States President George W. Bush announced an initiative of manned space exploration on January 14, 2004, known as the Vision for Space Exploration. It included developing preliminary plans for a lunar outpost by 2012[22] and establishing an outpost by 2020. Precursor missions that would help develop the needed technology during the 2010-2020 decade were tentatively outlined by Adringa and others.
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freetoken Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:02:04pm |
This ought to get play in the wingnut-o-sphere:
Gaddafi urges support for ‘wise’ Obama
Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi has urged global support for the "peaceful" policies of "wise" US President Barack Obama in his pursuit of a world without nuclear weapons.
"I appeal to everyone to give Obama time and to support his policies, as long as his programme remains peaceful," Gaddafi told a gathering late Thursday in a huge tent erected in the desert near the eastern coastal city of Sirte.
He was speaking during commemorations marking the anniversary of the bombing by American planes on April 15, 1986 of Tripoli and the eastern city of Benghazi which killed 41 people, including Gaddafi's adoptive daughter. Then president Ronald Reagan ordered the raids in retaliation for the bombing blamed on Libyan agents of a Berlin disco in which a US serviceman was among three people killed.
"We have confidence in our son Baraka ("chance" in Arabic) Obama and, if he continues his wise and peaceful policies, we will help and support him so that they succeed," Gaddafi, dressed in white suit and black shirt, told the crowd of around 1,000 people.
At the same time, the Libyan leader urged Washington to change its policies towards the Palestinians.
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Hengineer Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:02:28pm |
re: #299 The Shadow Do
Yea well Obama just shot that down.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:02:36pm |
re: #284 goddamnedfrank
If we prioritized large scale nanotube production we could quite feasibly build a space elevator within fifteen to twenty years. It would be even easier to build a companion elevator on the moon. We need to get away from chemical rockets if we're going to get any economy of scale going with our off world presence.
Perhaps, but that really only gets you to orbit.
If you want to get somewhere else in a short enough time that your astronauts don't decay to chimps and can bring enough with them to really set up shop we need an entirely new propulsion paradigm.
I suppose the best analogy is that we are like the Wright Brothers talking about supersonic flight.
However brilliant the Apollo missions were, it really was the space equivalent of Kittyhawk. Of course the sound barrier was breached, after numerous other technologies were developed and millions of man hours of research were spent on the thousands of different challenges that were presented. However, the planes that did that bore only the most passing resemblance to the Wright Flyer.
Another way to discuss this is that it is like people in the age of fighting sail talking about nuclear submarines. I am not saying that we will never get there or that it is a stupid thing to desire to be able to do. I am saying that if we honestly want to do that, we start working on the problems of propulsion and really heavy lift as well as astronaut survivability as our primary manned goals.
Saying we are going to Mars by thus and such a date is all well and good. Actually getting there in a way that would not eat one tenth of our budget - like Apollo did, and in a way that we can actually send enough men and material to do something worth doing, will require major innovations first.
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Digital Display Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:02:38pm |
re: #297 Hengineer
Apologies for the earlier indiscretion.
She went out to work out I'm kinda pooped heh.
Be well..It's nice when you can post here..Now...
Take her the hell out shopping!
That's right..Take a shower and take her out to buy something...
You stud you
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:02:52pm |
re: #298 freetoken
The news story did not make that clear. So, the background checks are still in place for purchase?
Doesn't mention anything about gun ownership in the article, just the concealment laws, so one would assume thats the only thing that has changed.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:03:04pm |
By the way, the subject of this thread is awesome.
It is also, of course, a demonstration.
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
The moon missions were inextricably bound up with the Cold War. NTTAWWT.
Just sayin': Part of the exercise was to show the Soviets and the homeland that MAD was functional, operational and ready at a moment's notice.
I lived through those days and experienced the thrill of "T minus 10...9...8..." etc.
But any sentient being also knew that this was the countdown to Armageddon.
Viz. fifties babies growing up to do music like the Talking Heads or Laurie Anderson.
Big Science.
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Racer X Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:03:59pm |
re: #300 freetoken
At the same time, the Libyan leader urged Washington to change its policies towards the Palestinians.
...oh, and Death To America!
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:04:21pm |
re: #299 The Shadow Do
you should be happy, the new policy makes that plan somewhat more likely, altho' the timeline is absurdly optimistic.
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Hengineer Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:04:39pm |
re: #303 HoosierHoops
Be well..It's nice when you can post here..Now...
Take her the hell out shopping!
That's right..Take a shower and take her out to buy something...
You stud you
Haha well already brought her back some stuff from overseas.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:06:01pm |
re: #291 freetoken
I am very much pro-second amendment, but this:
Eliminating Arizona's permit requirement will allow people 21 or older to forego background checks and classes that are now required to carry a concealed weapon.
... is nucking futs. Training is everything, doubly so if one is going to carry a concealed firearm.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:06:27pm |
re: #307 windsagio
you should be happy, the new policy makes that plan somewhat more likely, altho' the timeline is absurdly optimistic.
I am not entirely discouraged by Obamas latest take on the subject. But so far it is just talk. I wait.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:07:19pm |
re: #308 Hengineer
Haha well already brought her back some stuff from overseas.
Many new names and viewpoints since you were here last.
And lots of great new people.
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:07:51pm |
re: #304 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Doesn't mention anything about gun ownership in the article, just the concealment laws, so one would assume thats the only thing that has changed.
Well, just checked the existing AZ laws and and they do have a section for "prohibited possession of a fire arm" to include felons, mentally ill, etc, but other than that, carry what you like.
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Mocking Jay Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:08:02pm |
re: #306 Racer X
...oh, and Death To America!
Don't forget the Juice!
Image: 20081229NYDeathJuice.jpg
All of them! Except mango, I kind of like mango juice. Can't stand orange... unless it's cut with something else, like orange/pineapple... Grapefruit must die horrible, though.
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Hengineer Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:08:23pm |
re: #312 reine.de.tout
Many new names and viewpoints since you were here last.
And lots of great new people.
I can see that, its a good thing!
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:09:59pm |
Where are you, Summer? Got a new Roman Slave Girl costume for you to try on.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:10:18pm |
Has this already been linked here before?
Michael Specter: The danger of science denial.
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:10:19pm |
re: #314 JasonA
Don't forget the Juice!
Image: 20081229NYDeathJuice.jpgAll of them! Except mango, I kind of like mango juice. Can't stand orange... unless it's cut with something else, like orange/pineapple... Grapefruit must die horrible, though.
Pineapple juice is the shiznit.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:10:56pm |
Shabbos comes! Be well my friends!
See you in space, Cowboy....
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tradewind Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:11:05pm |
re: #291 freetoken
Under the measure, Arizonans would still be subject to the background checks federal law requires when buying firearms from a store. People carrying a concealed weapon would be required to tell a police officer if asked, and the officer could temporarily take the weapon while communicating with the gun carrier.
It's basically the VT law. There would still be a background check to purchase a gun, and a ban on felons purchasing guns.
Of course, we all know how well those laws against criminals carrying guns work.//
:)
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freetoken Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:12:28pm |
re: #318 Slumbering Behemoth
Put it in the spin-offs yesterday, but it didn't get many clicks.
While I appreciate Specter's attack on the anti-vaxxers, I also think that he tended to paint in too broad a brush. Perhaps that is because TED limits the talks to just 15 minutes or so.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:12:54pm |
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shiplord kirel Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:14:21pm |
Phil Plait (the Bad Astronomer) is really on top of the new Obama space policy.
This one deals with reaction to the announcement itself and to Phil's initial posts:
Akin breakin’ heart
Response to both Obama’s space policy and my blog post about it were pretty much as I expected. Haters, lovers, people who didn’t actually read what I wrote or listened to what Obama actually said, some thoughtful, some knee jerk. The usual.
toddakinBut my favorite is from Congressman Todd Akin (R-MO), who, in a press release, posted this:
The decision by the Obama administration to gut NASA’s manned flight program does more than jeopardize the long term goals of solar system exploration, the cancellation of the space shuttles replacement will effectively leave the United States reliant upon the Soviet Union to grant us access to low earth orbit. As a member of the Armed Services Committee I am very concerned with that possibility, and as an American I am disappointed by the prospect.It doesn’t surprise me that someone would erroneously say that Obama is gutting the manned space flight program, when we know he isn’t and when he may in fact be saving it. It doesn’t surprise me that people are forgetting that private industry is poised to take us into low Earth orbit before Constellation could have, though it’s odd for a "fiscally conservative" Republican Congressman — and therefore, one assume, pro-business — to forget such a thing.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:14:56pm |
re: #322 freetoken
I regret not having seen it in the spin-offs. Pretend this is a +1 for your link.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:15:40pm |
re: #322 freetoken
Heh. I did think the "Big Pharma to Big Placebo" thing was pretty funny, though.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:15:40pm |
re: #317 Cato the Elder
Enrico Caruso
I'd like to know if Caruso's voice had more depth to it than we pick up in the old recordings. Current tenors would simply blow him a way (IMO). Is it the recording quality?
What do you think?
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reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:17:35pm |
re: #317 Cato the Elder
Where are you, Summer? Got a new Roman Slave Girl costume for you to try on.
Is Summer the Second Life lady?
I can't recall now who it was - when she first showed up a few years ago and had a link to her Second Life character - somebody here kept asking her if she really looked like that.
Could not get it through his head that the character was a created image, that may or may not have anything to do with how she really looks. Guy went on and on and on . . . .
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shiplord kirel Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:18:44pm |
re: #302 LudwigVanQuixote
Perhaps, but that really only gets you to orbit.
If you want to get somewhere else in a short enough time that your astronauts don't decay to chimps and can bring enough with them to really set up shop we need an entirely new propulsion paradigm.
I suppose the best analogy is that we are like the Wright Brothers talking about supersonic flight.
However brilliant the Apollo missions were, it really was the space equivalent of Kittyhawk. Of course the sound barrier was breached, after numerous other technologies were developed and millions of man hours of research were spent on the thousands of different challenges that were presented. However, the planes that did that bore only the most passing resemblance to the Wright Flyer.
It's interesting that Orville Wright (1871-1948) was still alive at the time of the first supersonic flight (October 14, 1947).
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:19:36pm |
re: #328 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
(Bocelli is not included in my list of current tenors)
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freetoken Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:20:31pm |
re: #327 Slumbering Behemoth
Yeah, it was a cute, and catchy, line. It does however bring me to one of the issues I have with that lecture by Michael. Even "Big Pharma" products work, at some percentage of the use, as placebos. Likewise, some (perhaps many) of the products sold as "supplements" are indeed more than placebos.
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tradewind Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:21:29pm |
re: #300 freetoken
So what else is new? The PLO's former spokesman Rashid Kallidi endorsed him for prez.
After all, Obama promised he'd restore America's good name in the world. Gotta start somewhere.
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Mocking Jay Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:21:55pm |
This is some scary sh!t:
Baltimore Police Department: Guns That Look Like Toys
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:23:33pm |
re: #328 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'd like to know if Caruso's voice had more depth to it than we pick up in the old recordings. Current tenors would simply blow him a way (IMO). Is it the recording quality?
What do you think?
Of course it's not.
The oldest recordings I still listen to for non-historical reasons are from the 1930s. For instance, out of all the "Magic Flute" recordings on the market, I still prefer Sir Thomas Beecham's 1938 take on the opera with the Berlin Phil. Orch.
You may be sure that Caruso had a voice which would light Pavarotti up like a Roman candle. He was a phenomenon in the days when people could still tell an operatic fraud from the real deal.
And he smoked something like 15 cigars a day.
I only put in the Caruso instead of a better recording because I know Summer is an antiquarian, and I'm trying to lure her inextricably into my Catonian net.
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William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:25:26pm |
re: #291 freetoken
Let me (gently) step on the toes of the gun people here:
Arizona to allow concealed guns without permit
So let me see if I get this correctly... If I am a convicted felon, or a diagnosed suicidal mental patient, it will be just fine for me to buy a gun in AZ?
No. You still have to have the federally required NICS check to buy a firearm from a FFL dealer. The only exceptions are if:
1) you are a FFL 1 (firearms dealer) yourself
2) you are a FFL 3 (firearms collector) yourself and then only Curios and Relics as designated by the BATF.
3) if your state allows face to face firearms sales between adults. It is still the sellers legal responsibility to determine that the buyer is able to legally posses a firearm.
IANAL!!!!
William
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tradewind Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:25:50pm |
re: #335 JasonA
That is a scary site. Waiting for them to just out a CIA operative or two working undercover in the ME.
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freetoken Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:26:05pm |
re: #335 JasonA
The HelloKitty AK-47 is quite the fashion statement.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:27:11pm |
re: #329 reine.de.tout
Same grrrl. I've taken it into my head to make her my Roman sex slave on Second life. And she has, provisionally of course, agreed. I shall play the part of a priapic hobbit-satyr.
I'm just that evil.
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darthstar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:27:32pm |
Heh...just phone-interviewed a guy who used the word 'love' and the name of the automation tool we use in the same sentence. Yes, I'm bringing him in for a face to face interview. And I thought I was the only person who loved this application.
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Ojoe Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:27:37pm |
re: #336 Cato the Elder
Caruso's voice was described as having the power of "a freight train."
And if one's tragic childhood gives one's singing any emotional depth, Caruso should have had singing depth aplenty.
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shiplord kirel Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:28:29pm |
Face of Defense: Vietnam Vet to Return from Iraq Duty
CONTINGENCY OPERATING BASE ADDER, Iraq, April 16, 2010 – It's a heady résumé: war hero, veteran pilot, commercial pilot, safety officer, father, grandfather, husband – and most recently - projects officer. With such an extensive list of credentials to his name, one would expect this soldier to be incredibly busy.However, while Army Chief Warrant Officer 5 William R. Halevy stays busy with his job, he never fails to have time for a smile and a friendly greeting to anyone who crosses his path, seemingly the nicest guy you could meet.
Halevy, who calls Jeffersonton, Va., home, is the Headquarters Company, 12th Combat Aviation Brigade, project manager, and he’s preparing to redeploy from his tour in Iraq.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:29:21pm |
re: #339 freetoken
Say Hello to my leetle Kitty!
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Digital Display Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:30:57pm |
re: #341 darthstar
Heh...just phone-interviewed a guy who used the word 'love' and the name of the automation tool we use in the same sentence. Yes, I'm bringing him in for a face to face interview. And I thought I was the only person who loved this application.
Awesome...Aren't you in NorCal? I'm based out of Silly Cone Valley
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Mocking Jay Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:31:26pm |
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:31:28pm |
re: #335 JasonA
This is some scary sh!t:
Baltimore Police Department: Guns That Look Like Toys
I live in Baltimore, and my guns look like guns. This is teh bullshit. If I point a gun at you and you have a gun already pointed at me, you won't hesitate.
Fookin' gang-bangers. They mess things up for the rest of us. What if I want to commit suicide by cop and the rookie on duty fails to pull the trigger because he thinks my HK47 was a birthday present from my uncle?
Sheesh.
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Mocking Jay Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:32:30pm |
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:34:41pm |
re: #348 Cato the Elder
Reminds me of when I was a kid, and I found one of those old toy cap guns under my bed. There was some freaking out involved.
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reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:34:42pm |
We used to paint our construction tools hot pink cause no one would steal
hot pink tools ....ah...Right?
You can buy very girly hand guns from most manufacturers
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Mocking Jay Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:35:57pm |
re: #352 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
It must be really humiliating and emasculating to lose to that chapter.
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freetoken Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:36:53pm |
Fake doctors for fake boobs?
Fake Venezuelan doctors provided breast implants
Venezuelan police have arrested a man and woman accused of impersonating plastic surgeons and providing women with silicon breast and buttock implants from an illegal clinic in an apartment.
Is there anything real left in the world today?
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:37:06pm |
re: #353 JasonA
It must be really humiliating and emasculating to lose to that chapter.
Sisters of Battle are formed in Convents, not Chapters.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:37:07pm |
re: #347 JasonA
only for morans who go turkey hunting with too light a shot in their shot-guns. Every year you'd hear about some sorry SOB who got attacked because he thought birdshot was birdshot.
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Mocking Jay Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:37:33pm |
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:37:35pm |
re: #354 freetoken
Fake doctors for fake boobs?
Fake Venezuelan doctors provided breast implants
Is there anything real left in the world today?
My enormous manhood.
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tradewind Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:38:00pm |
re: #351 reloadingisnotahobby
I heart my girly pink taser.//
Re those painted guns..... we have had tragedies in my city where kids have been shot by police officers who mistook their fake guns for real ones.... not such a stretch where there are twelve year old gang bangers, but a tragedy still.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:38:26pm |
re: #341 darthstar
Heh...just phone-interviewed a guy who used the word 'love' and the name of the automation tool we use in the same sentence. Yes, I'm bringing him in for a face to face interview. And I thought I was the only person who loved this application.
if he comes in with a dozen roses to give to the app, is he hired? :D
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:39:19pm |
re: #352 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
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Racer X Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:39:35pm |
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tradewind Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:41:32pm |
re: #362 Racer X
You could induce a seizure with that thing....
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:42:19pm |
re: #345 Ojoe
Thank you for that. I hereby forgive you your Whiggery.
It will be interesting over time to see what digital remastering can recover from early recordings.
By the way, when I was growing up, Caruso was still the non plus ultra among the oldest generation.
Summer, my love, now listen to that!
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webevintage Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:42:43pm |
re: #282 JasonA
A nice Kos diary for your enjoyment:
Update2 (now w/hate mail + Digg link) Tea partying in Ann Arbor - Waffles are delicious!
hahahaha
The signs are great and it was a brilliant idea to hold a tea party rally on a college campus.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:43:14pm |
re: #335 JasonA
This is some scary sh!t:
Baltimore Police Department: Guns That Look Like Toys
I sort of like the M1911A1 is Christmas colors. Seems the perfect way to say "Merry Christmas" to a mugger. >:D
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freetoken Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:43:24pm |
Well, I guess this settles it then:
Mexico bishop says porn, TV to blame for priest abuse
"With so much invasion of eroticism, sometimes it's not easy to stay celibate or to respect children," Bishop Felipe Arizmendi said during an annual meeting of Mexican bishops near Mexico City on Thursday.
"If on television and on the Internet and in so many media outlets there is pornography, it is very difficult to stay pure and chaste," said Arizmendi, an influential bishop from the colonial town of San Cristobal de las Casas in southern Mexico.
"Obviously when there is generalized sexual freedom it's more likely there could be cases of paedophilia," he added.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:44:07pm |
re: #359 tradewind
I heart my girly pink taser.//
Re those painted guns... we have had tragedies in my city where kids have been shot by police officers who mistook their fake guns for real ones... not such a stretch where there are twelve year old gang bangers, but a tragedy still.
Not a tragedy. An honest mistake.
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:45:05pm |
re: #361 WindUpBird
Now the funniest thing I have ever seen on the table was the guy who modelled his Ork Kommandos with "camoflage". Meaning they were holding cutouts of poorly drawn Imperial Guardsmen and Space Marines, smiling and offering beers, in front of them, or were wearing crates labelled "harmless" Rather good modelling work overall.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:45:13pm |
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:45:21pm |
re: #368 Cato the Elder
accidental death is always tragic.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:46:07pm |
re: #349 JasonA
You have my condolences.
Well, thank you for that. I've been looking for the exit for decades, but they keep on shifting it around.
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:46:33pm |
re: #367 freetoken
Well, I guess this settles it then:
Ah yes, the widespread availability of porn on TV and the internet explains what happened in Ireland over several generation as well I suppose.
FUCK YOU BISHOP.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:47:55pm |
re: #373 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Ah yes, the widespread availability of porn on TV and the internet explains what happened in Ireland over several generation as well I suppose.
FUCK YOU BISHOP.
It's so stupid. That bishop is so out of touch he's practically in orbit.
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tradewind Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:48:19pm |
re: #368 Cato the Elder
Technically, you're right..... it was the result of a mistake. But the result is still tragic for the parties involved. I know that an officer in one case is still undergoing intense therapy to deal with his guilt, whether or not it is appropriate.
I don't know what the answer to this situation is.... outlaw toy guns?
What a sad place we're in.
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Racer X Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:49:12pm |
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:50:26pm |
re: #329 reine.de.tout
Is Summer the Second Life lady?
I can't recall now who it was - when she first showed up a few years ago and had a link to her Second Life character - somebody here kept asking her if she really looked like that.
Could not get it through his head that the character was a created image, that may or may not have anything to do with how she really looks. Guy went on and on and on . . .
The stupidity of horny guys is matched only in reverse proportion by the silliness of their performance.
In bed.
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:50:47pm |
A Note to the Catholic Church:
For somethings, there are no excuses. You apologize, you grovel and you make whatever ammends you can, as soon as you can, as much as you can. Eventually, if you are very very lucky, it wont be brought up how much you FUCKED UP ROYALLY in polite conversation, though everyone will always know it. Get your fucking act together.
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Shiplord Kirel Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:51:48pm |
Ooh Boy!! This one will set the wingnuts into a bat guano frenzy (even worse than usual).
Clinton alludes to 1995 bombing, says words matter
WASHINGTON – Former President Bill Clinton warned of a slippery slope from angry anti-government rhetoric to violence like the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, saying "the words we use really do matter."
The two-term Democratic president insisted he wasn't trying to restrict free speech, but in remarks Friday he said incendiary language can be taken the wrong way by some Americans. He drew parallels to words demonizing the government before Oklahoma City.
On April 19, 1995, an anti-government conspiracy led by Army veteran Timothy McVeigh exploded a truck bomb outside the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, killing 168 people.
"What we learned from Oklahoma City is not that we should gag each other or that we should reduce our passion for the positions we hold — but that the words we use really do matter, because there's this vast echo chamber, and they go across space and they fall on the serious and the delirious alike. They fall on the connected and the unhinged alike," he said.
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simoom Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:52:22pm |
re: #136 Aceofwhat?
maybe i misread the summaries, or read the wrong ones, but isn't this more about privatization rather than abandonment of manned space flight?
Discover Magazine had a decent write-up yesterday, which included some well deserved FNC misinformation bashing:
[Link: blogs.discovermagazine.com...]
President Obama gave a speech at NASA’s Kennedy Space Center today to outline his new, revamped space policy.You may remember that his last revamping caused quite a stir, with people screaming that it would doom NASA. I disagree. Canceling Constellation still strikes me as the right thing to do, because it was becoming an albatross around NASA’s neck. Mind you, this was also the recommendation of the blue ribbon Augustine panel. You may also note that NASA astronauts are split over all this, with Buzz Aldrin, for example, supporting Obama, and Neil Armstrong and many others disagreeing.
It’s a mess, and hard to disentangle what everyone’s saying. There’s been a huge amount of misinformation about it (with — shocking — Fox news leading the way; they spout so much disingenuousness, nonsense, self-contradiction, and outright stupidity that it makes me want to fly to their studios just to slap them). But Obama’s plan seems pretty clear.
...
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:54:52pm |
re: #379 Shiplord Kirel
Ooh Boy!! This one will set the wingnuts into a bat guano frenzy (even worse than usual).
Clinton alludes to 1995 bombing, says words matter
They'll charge that the Democrats have embarked on a "campaign of demonization!!1" Of course, the fact that they are acting like demons will be lost upon them.
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Shiplord Kirel Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:55:44pm |
re: #379 Shiplord Kirel
Ooh Boy!! This one will set the wingnuts into a bat guano frenzy (even worse than usual).
Clinton alludes to 1995 bombing, says words matter
Sure 'nuff. Freepers react (to Rush Limbaugh's take)
Bill Clinton Links Talk Radio, Tea Parties to Non-Existent Terrorism
Non-existent? 168 people died in the OKC bombing, which IS what Clinton alluded to.
Otherwise, we see the usual stand-by crazy points, Arkancide, Chinese spies, Waco Whackiness, Vince Foster, etc.
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:56:47pm |
Sex offender pleads guilty to murdering 2 teens
SAN DIEGO — Sex offender John Albert Gardner pleaded guilty Friday to murdering two teenage girls in San Diego County after prosecutors agreed not to seek the death penalty.
Gardner, 31, faces life in prison without parole for killing 14-year-old Amber Dubois and 17-year-old Chelsea King.
The fact this piece of shit gets to live is a tragedy.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:58:44pm |
re: #379 Shiplord Kirel
Ooh Boy!! This one will set the wingnuts into a bat guano frenzy (even worse than usual).
Clinton alludes to 1995 bombing, says words matter
It's so painfully obvious that the right is flirting with extremist ideas and rhetoric. I hope they wake up soon.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:59:05pm |
re: #383 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Sex offender pleads guilty to murdering 2 teens
The fact this piece of shit gets to live is a tragedy.
I hope he lives a long and miserably miserable life in prison.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:59:55pm |
re: #373 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Ah yes, the widespread availability of porn on TV and the internet explains what happened in Ireland over several generation as well I suppose.
FUCK YOU BISHOP.
what you expect from guys that can only move diagonally
//
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:01:00pm |
re: #383 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Sex offender pleads guilty to murdering 2 teens
The fact this piece of shit gets to live is a tragedy.
I'd like to take a page out Uday Hussein's playbook and have a scum bag like that run through a plastic shredder. If he pleads guilty, he goes in head first. If he forces a trial and is found guilty, he goes in feet first. Naturally, the 8th Amendment prohibits this, and I'm glad it does. But I'd like to do that to this scumbag, even while knowing that I would never actually such a thing.
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:01:11pm |
re: #385 reine.de.tout
I hope he lives a long and miserably miserable life in prison.
I will refrain from speaking more on this issue. Anything which does not involve him screaming and pleading for mercy is getting off light.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:01:39pm |
re: #383 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
death would be too easy. The fucker should be in a cell covered in photo's of his victims and made to stare at em the rest of his life. While I understand why some people support the death penalty I think it let's a criminal off too easily. He should have to rot in prison and have to be looking over his shoulder just like any other "untouchable"
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:01:48pm |
re: #379 Shiplord Kirel
Ooh Boy!! This one will set the wingnuts into a bat guano frenzy (even worse than usual).
Clinton alludes to 1995 bombing, says words matter
Oh boy. I can't wait to see if Rush "Words Mean Things" Limbaugh has a rebuttal for that.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:01:51pm |
On our way home from lunch today, local talk radio show - guy was claiming that the NOPD is "covering up and protecting" something/somebody in regards to the beating of the Jindal aide.
I wanted to scream.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:02:31pm |
re: #388 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I will refrain from speaking more on this issue. Anything which does not involve him screaming and pleading for mercy is getting off light.
Oh, I agree.
I hope he has many many days screaming and pleading for mercy.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:03:08pm |
re: #378 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
A Note to the Catholic Church:
For somethings, there are no excuses. You apologize, you grovel and you make whatever ammends you can, as soon as you can, as much as you can. Eventually, if you are very very lucky, it wont be brought up how much you FUCKED UP ROYALLY in polite conversation, though everyone will always know it. Get your fucking act together.
You might want to read this article by Alan Dershowitz, a liberal Jew (until he was cast into outer darkness by the moonbat liberals for the crime of supporting Israel).
Catholic church accused of covering up pedophilia? Blame the Jews.
Not sayin' he's right or wrong. But what dog does he have in this fight?
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freetoken Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:03:14pm |
re: #390 Slumbering Behemoth
Rush Limbaugh, Bill Clinton Square Off: Who's Encouraging Domestic Terror?
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:03:39pm |
re: #62 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I can agree with much of what you say, more so for points 2 and 3. Recent changes to WoW in regards to just those 2 issues are why I have cut back drastically.
Woo, replying to an old post is almost like time travel, except it doesn't rawk.
Anyway, I played Everquest for way too damned long, and learned the True Meaning of MMOs. For those of you who are lucky enough never to have played Everquest, imagine spending many hours a day voluntarily frustrating the ever-loving shit out of yourself to the point where you wish "Everquest" was something you could fly a plane into, and yet somehow becoming addicted to the experience. World of Warcraft was successful (IMHO) because it took everything that was addictive about Everquest and eliminated much of the frustration. The first expansion pack ruined a lot of WoW, and in some ways it's now worse than Everquest. The "original" WoW was really good.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:03:39pm |
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:03:58pm |
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reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:05:31pm |
re: #386 WindUpBird
what you expect from guys that can only move diagonally
//
Oh, I am so going to hell for laughing at that!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:05:48pm |
re: #396 negativ
Woo, replying to an old post is almost like time travel, except it doesn't rawk.
Anyway, I played Everquest for way too damned long, and learned the True Meaning of MMOs. For those of you who are lucky enough never to have played Everquest, imagine spending many hours a day voluntarily frustrating the ever-loving shit out of yourself to the point where you wish "Everquest" was something you could fly a plane into, and yet somehow becoming addicted to the experience. World of Warcraft was successful (IMHO) because it took everything that was addictive about Everquest and eliminated much of the frustration. The first expansion pack ruined a lot of WoW, and in some ways it's now worse than Everquest. The "original" WoW was really good.
besides a week--long minor dalliance with WoW, and another week where I gave Guild Wars a shot, I've never really done an MMO. I am all about the single-player RPGs. i figured out what it is: I play games (thinking of narrative based FPSes and RPGs here) partially to GET AWAY from social obligations, not to create new ones. It's escapism. if I'm playing with other people, that tends to ruin the escapism.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:06:07pm |
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:06:33pm |
re: #395 freetoken
Rush Limbaugh, Bill Clinton Square Off: Who's Encouraging Domestic Terror?
Thank you very fucking much, Rush. You've gone so far around the bend that I now have to take Bill Clinton's side instead of yours. You've ruined the conservative movement by your rotten rhetoric. You're an ass, Rush.
/Sorry, I needed that.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:06:38pm |
AllahPundit links to this video....
How to Deal With TEA Party Infiltrators.
I figured we’d have a treasure trove of pics and videos this morning of liberal agents provocateur stomping around in SS hats. Nope: This guy’s pretty much it (and in fairness to lefties, he may be the real deal).
May? He's obviously a real White Supremacist. I'll give the Tea Partiers credit for hassling him but where was the outrage when the ADL warned of neo-Nazis attending the Tea Parties? Even now claiming that he "may" be a lefty plant is still ignoring the real problem.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:06:56pm |
re: #395 freetoken
Rush Limbaugh, Bill Clinton Square Off: Who's Encouraging Domestic Terror?
Hmm. I guess Words Don't Mean Things anymore. Kudos to Rush./
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Racer X Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:07:01pm |
re: #388 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I will refrain from speaking more on this issue. Anything which does not involve him screaming and pleading for mercy is getting off light.
Nothing will bring back the victims. He may or may not experience years of pain and abuse in prison. My view is this shit-stain on society should be wiped off like a smudge, and the rag thrown away.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:07:16pm |
re: #404 Killgore Trout
Btw, anyone recognize the guy in the video?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:09:57pm |
re: #409 JasonA
That's deep, man.
An existential comment on the nature of one blog comment in a sea of digital detritus: each person's thoughts are reduced to a single pixel when viewed in context. A singularity of opinion.
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:10:48pm |
re: #401 WindUpBird
besides a week--long minor dalliance with WoW, and another week where I gave Guild Wars a shot, I've never really done an MMO. I am all about the single-player RPGs. i figured out what it is: I play games (thinking of narrative based FPSes and RPGs here) partially to GET AWAY from social obligations, not to create new ones. It's escapism. if I'm playing with other people, that tends to ruin the escapism.
I like the ride up to 80, I just hate the fact that once you get there, you have to start doing group activities or PVP or you having nothing to do. Probably why I have like 14 different characters.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:11:15pm |
Here's some guy pulling a Tom Greene type stunt
Tea Party Patriot rally briefly pauses for a guy pulling a publicity
Kinda funny for what it's worth.
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Mocking Jay Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:11:27pm |
re: #410 WindUpBird
An existential comment on the nature of one blog comment in a sea of digital detritus: each person's thoughts are reduced to a single pixel when viewed in context. A singularity of opinion.
Maybe, but NJ managed to say that without saying anything. How does that make you feel?
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:11:42pm |
Buried in a DC yard: WWI chemicals, weapons
WASHINGTON - A year ago, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers thought chances of finding any more chemical weapons in the front yard of a home in the nation's capital were slim. So they removed an airtight protective structure from the World War I munitions cleanup site. Then, they uncovered a small arsenal.
The Corps discovered an open flask containing traces of the chemical agent mustard, another blistering agent called lewisite and munition shells with more digging near a one-time Army chemical warfare station at American University.
More recently, protective structures were rebuilt and digging continued. Workers found a larger jar with mustard, glassware that was smoking and fuming, scrap munitions and a shell containing a tear gas agent.
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The Army Corps has removed more than 500 pounds of glassware and scrap metal and nearly 750 barrels of soil, some of it contaminated with chemical agents, said spokeswoman Joyce Conant.
"It's a much larger disposal area than we predicted," project manager Dan Noble told The Associated Press on Thursday. "The nature of debris is so different, perhaps it's a different disposal area."
It's too soon to know, though, whether the Army Corps has uncovered a fourth major disposal area in the pricey Spring Valley neighborhood near American University, Nobel said.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:12:05pm |
re: #403 Dark_Falcon
I recommend Phil Hendrie as a satirical antidote to extremist talk radio. (and Hendrie is non partisan: he supported Bush and supports Obama)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:12:10pm |
re: #407 Killgore Trout
Damnit dad! You're drunk again, go home.
/
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:12:13pm |
re: #404 Killgore Trout
AllahPundit links to this video...
How to Deal With TEA Party Infiltrators.
[Video]
May? He's obviously a real White Supremacist. I'll give the Tea Partiers credit for hassling him but where was the outrage when the ADL warned of neo-Nazis attending the Tea Parties? Even now claiming that he "may" be a lefty plant is still ignoring the real problem.
If he's an actual Nazi, then they can claim he's a lefty after all.
Nazi = National Socialist.
This wingnut idea has been brought to you by Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg. Out in paperback wherever books are sold.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:12:20pm |
re: #413 JasonA
Maybe, but NJ managed to say that without saying anything. How does that make you feel?
I cannot compete ;_;
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:12:33pm |
re: #410 WindUpBird
An existential comment on the nature of one blog comment in a sea of digital detritus: each person's thoughts are reduced to a single pixel when viewed in context. A singularity of opinion.
Get out of my head, man!
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:13:06pm |
re: #371 windsagio
accidental death is always tragic.
Bullshit.
Look up "tragedy" when you have a moment to spare.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:13:38pm |
re: #411 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I like the ride up to 80, I just hate the fact that once you get there, you have to start doing group activities or PVP or you having nothing to do. Probably why I have like 14 different characters.
To give you an idea of where I'm coming from, my favorite games of all time are system Shock 2 and Planescape Torment :D I like horror, and a novel's worth of text in my games 8-)
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:14:20pm |
re: #420 Cato the Elder
Bullshit.
Look up "tragedy" when you have a moment to spare.
Agreed. Sometimes its just stupidity, pure and simple.
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simoom Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:14:28pm |
re: #382 Shiplord Kirel
Sure 'nuff. Freepers react (to Rush Limbaugh's take)
Bill Clinton Links Talk Radio, Tea Parties to Non-Existent Terrorism
I just read that Limbaugh transcript:
Limbaugh: Why is it that we can sit there and accuse nonviolent tea party people of committing terrorist acts? I mean that's what Clinton's doing. He's predicting that tea party people are going to blow up a federal building again, and in the process.... I'm going to state right now: If there is a future incident such as Oklahoma City, the blame is squarely Clintons on the shoulders of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama who I'm sure is coordinating Clinton's appearance on this.
Bill Clinton, with the sound bite you just heard just gave the kooks out there an excuse to be violent. He just offered them an opportunity to be violent ...
Is it just me, or does it sound like Limbaugh is telling his listeners that Clinton's rhetoric was an affront so great that another Oklahoma City bombing, in response, could reasonably be anticipated as retribution?
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Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:14:32pm |
re: #416 Slumbering Behemoth
Damnit dad! You're drunk again, go home.
/
Heh. Even the Hot Air commenters aren't buying AllahPundit's whitewash. That guy was the real deal.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:14:56pm |
re: #417 Dark_Falcon
If he's an actual Nazi, then they can claim he's a lefty after all.
Nazi = National Socialist.This wingnut idea has been brought to you by Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg. Out in paperback wherever books are sold.
Aha! Genius!
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:15:03pm |
re: #421 WindUpBird
To give you an idea of where I'm coming from, my favorite games of all time are system Shock 2 and Planescape Torment :D I like horror, and a novel's worth of text in my games 8-)
Torment was good. I liked the Baldur's gate series.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:15:07pm |
re: #373 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Ah yes, the widespread availability of porn on TV and the internet explains what happened in Ireland over several generation as well I suppose.
FUCK YOU BISHOP.
You know what's awesome? What's awesome is that it's generally acceptable to take people to task and criticize them for claiming that "the devil television made me do it", but once you criticize them for believing that a special cracker literally becomes the flesh of a god when eaten under specific circumstances, or that a book asserting the existence of an invisible sky king who comes to earth in human form in order to be killed which somehow saves his creation from his own wrath is a sound foundation upon which to base your life, well then you're despicable and horrid.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:15:44pm |
re: #414 NJDhockeyfan
Pity they didn't find any pistols or rifles. A WWI vintage Springfield would be a nice find.
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:16:36pm |
re: #420 Cato the Elder
You're such a lingual fuddy-duddy :P
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Mocking Jay Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:16:55pm |
re: #426 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Torment was good. I liked the Baldur's gate series.
I should go through those again. Ten year old games are just perfect for my crappy laptop.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:17:48pm |
re: #426 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Torment was good. I liked the Baldur's gate series.
Baldur's Gate, also excellent. Planescape is my favorite D&D setting, but the Baldur's Gate series kicked ass.
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:18:09pm |
BAH, I should be home by now. Waiting on a system audit to finish up so I can pull the data.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:18:14pm |
re: #429 windsagio
You're such a lingual fuddy-duddy :P
And if you were Summer, I'd show you just exactly how right you are.
Too bad for you.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:18:19pm |
re: #423 simoom
Is it just me, or does it sound like Limbaugh is telling his listeners that Clinton's rhetoric was an affront so great that another Oklahoma City bombing, in response, could reasonably be anticipated as retribution?
If another Oklahoma City type bombing, Clinton & Rush will be pointing fingers at each other. Two fools energizing the nuts....what else is next?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:18:35pm |
re: #430 JasonA
I should go through those again. Ten year old games are just perfect for my crappy laptop.
Torment is about flawless. I have it running on our netbook, in case I'm stuck somewhere for a long time and I need to figure out what is the nature of a man 8-)
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:18:55pm |
re: #431 WindUpBird
Baldur's Gate, also excellent. Planescape is my favorite D&D setting, but the Baldur's Gate series kicked ass.
Planescape was the best setting hands down. I miss 2d edition.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:18:59pm |
re: #431 WindUpBird
I thought Baulder's Gate and most of Bioware's D&D games were crap. There, I said it.
/Torment did kick ass, though.
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Mocking Jay Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:19:04pm |
re: #433 Cato the Elder
And if you were Summer, I'd show you just exactly how right you are.
Too bad for you.
Your Roman d!ckishness reminds me that Spartacus finale is on tonight.
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Digital Display Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:19:31pm |
The trouble with dogs...A light reading for a Friday night..
As you all know..I've never had a pet in my life when a so called friend dumped a completely spoiled Beverly Hills Chihuahua on me...Little Winston..
Here are my list of complains..
You can't jog with Winston..He wants to smell everything on earth...
Damn it lets go Winston
*Wait..I smell somebodies butt..Hold on..*
Winston!
****
You can't feed him..I have gone through Pet smart and bought one of every single can of dog food known to mankind...He walks by them with his nose turned up...I have spent hundreds of bucks on this bastard! *wink*
If I come home with a bucket of KFC Chicken Winston will walk on 2 legs..Do back flips and freak out... He will actually do the final scene from King Lear on Demand for a breast..(imagine that)
****
I cheat...I figure you have to walk the dog an hour a day.. So When I sit on the deck and Winston chases birds around for 28 minutes.. Well I'm only walking you around for 32 minutes...Sorry about your luck little guy...
****
Walking Winston
He does OK until he sees somebody...Then he goes all prancing on me...He stops and freaking poses on me..Now listen...This is embarrassing...You see young girls with huge dogs running by you and I have this little spoiled dog posing really sucks..Where the heck did he come from?
*****
No matter what I do..Little Winston follows me around..
Poor Little Winston.. He doesn't know that when I open the pool I'm throwing him into the middle of it...
/
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:19:39pm |
re: #421 WindUpBird
LoTRo has enough reading to last a lifetime while playing.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:20:01pm |
re: #423 simoom
Is it just me, or does it sound like Limbaugh is telling his listeners that Clinton's rhetoric was an affront so great that another Oklahoma City bombing, in response, could reasonably be anticipated as retribution?
I think its just residual Clinton Derangement Syndrome. Rush hates Bill Clinton with a passion. To him, Clinton is forever doing immoral things and acting against America's best interests (full disclosure: I agreed with Rush in most regards about Clinton back in the 1990'a) and then getting away with it. protected by Dem party loyal and the liberal media. Rush is like Wile E. Coyote, driven insane by Slick Willy the Roadrunner's ability to evade him. Meep, Meep!
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Racer X Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:20:39pm |
re: #433 Cato the Elder
And if you were Summer, I'd show you just exactly how right you are.
Too bad for you.
Ya know, you're just making Mandy jealous.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:20:50pm |
re: #441 Dreggas
LoTRo has enough reading to last a lifetime while playing.
Are they hour-long dialogue trees that affect later decisions?
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Mocking Jay Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:21:12pm |
re: #443 Racer X
Ya know, you're just making Mandy jealous.
He's also skeeving me out with the whole dirty-old-man routine.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:21:20pm |
re: #438 JasonA
Your Roman d!ckishness reminds me that Spartacus finale is on tonight.
I doubt Cato is a fan of Spartacus himself. He probably would've rooted for Pompey Magnus instead.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:21:27pm |
re: #437 Slumbering Behemoth
I thought Baulder's Gate and most of Bioware's D&D games were crap. There, I said it.
/Torment did kick ass, though.
;_;
Doesn't matter, you get a pass because ARCANUM :D
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Mocking Jay Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:22:07pm |
re: #444 WindUpBird
Are they hour-long dialogue trees that affect later decisions?
You know what, I really don't want to hear opinion until you've at least cracked the shrinkwrap on your copy of Dragon Age, okay? :P
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:22:07pm |
re: #437 Slumbering Behemoth
Bioware's D&D stuff was great. They've consistently been one of the better producers of D&D stuff since Westwood Studios/Strategic Simulations inc went out of business.
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Varek Raith Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:22:12pm |
re: #447 WindUpBird
;_;
Doesn't matter, you get a pass because ARCANUM :D
Dammit! Must you taunt me with that game that I can't find the time to play!111!11!
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:22:18pm |
re: #437 Slumbering Behemoth
Baldurs gate doesn't really bear replaying (I know, I tried).
Torment is the finest thing to ever grace the PC.
Random info that nobody cares about: Rez is the best thing to grace any console, ever.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:22:35pm |
ICE seizes helicopter, stops illegal Iran shipment
ARLINGTON, Texas — Federal immigration agents have seized an $8 million Bell helicopter they say was destined for shipment to Iran in violation of trade sanctions.
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials said Friday that agents initially grounded the helicopter in its Arlington, Texas, hangar in December.
On Thursday, they seized the aircraft owned by the Italian company Tiber Aviation.
Special agent John Chakwin Jr., in charge of the ICE Office of Investigations in Dallas, says the case shows how U.S. export laws prevent "others from using our own technology against us."
Tiber has denied intending to ship the helicopter to Iran, according to court documents.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:22:36pm |
re: #448 JasonA
Dragonage rocked my socks. I loved the expansion as well.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:22:57pm |
re: #447 WindUpBird
Now that is a real RPG. Though it does have some flaws.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:23:02pm |
Now THIS was a D&D game.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:23:09pm |
re: #442 Dark_Falcon
I think its just residual Clinton Derangement Syndrome. Rush hates Bill Clinton with a passion. To him, Clinton is forever doing immoral things and acting against America's best interests (full disclosure: I agreed with Rush in most regards about Clinton back in the 1990'a) and then getting away with it. protected by Dem party loyal and the liberal media. Rush is like Wile E. Coyote, driven insane by Slick Willy the Roadrunner's ability to evade him. Meep, Meep!
in the 90's, Rush's show was completely different. There was some actual humor and satire to it, there was some theater, it was partisan but it wasn't this pied-piper viciousness it is now. Back then, you could see why he essentially created an entire new market, a new genre of talk radio.
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:23:13pm |
I should see if I can get Chaos Gate or Final Liberation up and running again.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:23:22pm |
re: #401 WindUpBird
I am all about the single-player RPGs. i figured out what it is: I play games (thinking of narrative based FPSes and RPGs here) partially to GET AWAY from social obligations, not to create new ones. It's escapism.
That's my preference as well. I usually don't give a crap about being "challenged". For that, I like good puzzle games like "World of Goo" and the stuff Popcap, et al produces. I like a good storyline, some halfway entertaining characters, and some reason for all the action.
The first computer game I ever played was the legendary ZORK, and few games since then have offered that level of immersion. I really like stuff like Neverwinter Nights. Dragon Age: Origin fit that bill quite nicely, as did Mass Effect. I liked the Bioshock games, too.
Aren't you glad I told you all that?
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keloyd Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:23:29pm |
IIRC from the late 80's and early 90's, one of the things the Corps of Engineers did after the Cold War fizzled out was keep themselves busy cleaning up old ammo dumps. Back to the 19th Century, the path of least resistance for dealing with old explosives, ammo, etc. was to just bury it, then do a really half arse job of recording where. I'm surprised this is news, and not from the year 1992 on some BBS.
I think Clinton was involved in this. He either found an excuse to keep the military busy with make-work cleaning up these forgotten messes after the USSR took away most of their raison d'etre, or he showed his progressive greenness with these valuable tasks, or he showed his loathing for the military with these demeaning busywork tasks, depending on who's remembering.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:23:37pm |
re: #444 WindUpBird
Given that it's an MMO not so much.
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simoom Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:23:51pm |
re: #435 WindUpBird
Torment is about flawless. I have it running on our netbook, in case I'm stuck somewhere for a long time and I need to figure out what is the nature of a man 8-)
I have this printed out and stored on a bookshelf somewhere:
Planescape: Torment Fan Novelization
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:24:10pm |
re: #449 Dreggas
I completely disagree. Sorry.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:24:16pm |
re: #448 JasonA
You know what, I really don't want to hear opinion until you've at least cracked the shrinkwrap on your copy of Dragon Age, okay? :P
hahahahaha I know I know
Maybe this weekend! I'm afraid I'll get sucked in, and then have to pull myself away to get work done and lose the thread. i binge on games, if I don't, I lose interest.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:24:52pm |
re: #456 WindUpBird
in the 90's, Rush's show was completely different. There was some actual humor and satire to it, there was some theater, it was partisan but it wasn't this pied-piper viciousness it is now. Back then, you could see why he essentially created an entire new market, a new genre of talk radio.
Quite Concur. I didn't leave Rush, Rush left sanity. When he did, I was forced to side with Bill Clinton. Weasel though he is, he's never been a crazy.
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:25:15pm |
This scanner mocks me. Sitting at 1487 out of 1490 systems.. END DAMN YOU!!!
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CuriousLurker Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:25:15pm |
re: #167 Hengineer
Sorry to go off-topic but we came back from deployment today!
We haven't met, but welcome home. :)
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Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:26:05pm |
"Save White America" Guy at San Antonio Tea Party
Once again, this guy seems to be the real deal. He says something about Alex Jones.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:26:11pm |
re: #452 NJDhockeyfan
Iran is always trying to smuggle in US weapons systems. That helo was likely purchased to replace a 1970's vintage one. Thankfully, customs was on the ball.
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Varek Raith Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:26:13pm |
re: #465 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
This scanner mocks me. Sitting at 1487 out of 1490 systems.. END DAMN YOU!!!
Destroy three of them. Problem solved.
;)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:26:20pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:26:32pm |
re: #458 negativ
That's my preference as well. I usually don't give a crap about being "challenged". For that, I like good puzzle games like "World of Goo" and the stuff Popcap, et al produces. I like a good storyline, some halfway entertaining characters, and some reason for all the action.
The first computer game I ever played was the legendary ZORK, and few games since then have offered that level of immersion. I really like stuff like Neverwinter Nights. Dragon Age: Origin fit that bill quite nicely, as did Mass Effect. I liked the Bioshock games, too.
Aren't you glad I told you all that?
ZORK FTW
I was less into text adventures as a kid, more into 8-bit PC/atari/Commdore strategy games and RPGs. The Ultimas, Roadwar 2000, Autoduel, Bard's Tale, Return of Heracles, Sundog. I always had a hard time with text adventures, and I'm not sure why.
and yeah, Mass Effect was awesome, another sequel I need to dive into *_*
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:26:36pm |
I haven't played any D&D games. I like stuff like Call of Duty, GTA, and some of the classic FPS games like Blood & Duke Nukem.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:26:47pm |
re: #463 WindUpBird
I will tell you it is a good thing to buy the addons for the game since they offer a lot of neat stuff plus more storey etc.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:27:10pm |
re: #467 Killgore Trout
"Save White America" Guy at San Antonio Tea Party
[Video]Once again, this guy seems to be the real deal. He says something about Alex Jones.
Oops, that was from 2009!
/My mistake
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:28:01pm |
re: #468 Dark_Falcon
Iran is always trying to smuggle in US weapons systems. That helo was likely purchased to replace a 1970's vintage one. Thankfully, customs was on the ball.
If that company really was going to sell that to Iran they should be shut down and the employees responsible jailed. This is treasonous.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:28:04pm |
re: #470 Slumbering Behemoth
Those were the good old days for me and D&D computer games. Those along with dungeon hack (generated random dungeons and adventures) Spelljammer: Pirates of realmspace (another D&D gameworld) and a few others were awesome sauce back in the day.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:29:00pm |
re: #470 Slumbering Behemoth
I've never played that one. I feel like I've missed out.
That is old school! Eye of the Beholder is great, but it's basically a copycat of Dungeon Master. DM is the game to play, out for about every system on earth. It was said that it was the "perfect" killer app, when it first came out for the Atari ST, it ended up driving the computer's sales on the strength of the game alone.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:29:00pm |
re: #467 Killgore Trout
"Save White America" Guy at San Antonio Tea Party
[Video]Once again, this guy seems to be the real deal. He says something about Alex Jones.
I can't really make out the dialog. But that guy seems to be a classic White Nationalist. Not a murderous racist, but still an overt one.
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simoom Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:29:18pm |
re: #467 Killgore Trout
"Save White America" Guy at San Antonio Tea Party
Is that his phone number on the sign? Or it could be someone else's he dislikes I suppose. Bad idea either way in this day and age.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:29:36pm |
re: #476 Dreggas
Never played the Spelljammer one either. Played the hell out of the Pool of Radiance series, though.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:30:27pm |
re: #472 NJDhockeyfan
I haven't played any D&D games. I like stuff like Call of Duty, GTA, and some of the classic FPS games like Blood & Duke Nukem.
Can't go wrong with GTA. Oh the fun I've had with four beers in me, playing GTA4 with the "behind the wheel" perspective, becoming the scourge of Liberty City...
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:30:53pm |
re: #480 Slumbering Behemoth
spelljammer was a somewhat failed campaign setting where you had boats that were powered by magic to fly through space within the solar system that encompassed Toril and the forgotten realms.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:31:12pm |
re: #483 Dreggas
spelljammer was a somewhat failed campaign setting where you had boats that were powered by magic to fly through space within the solar system that encompassed Toril and the forgotten realms.
it was all very Elric 8-)
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:32:40pm |
re: #483 Dreggas
spelljammer was a somewhat failed campaign setting where you had boats that were powered by magic to fly through space within the solar system that encompassed Toril and the forgotten realms.
Too many new mechanics that weren't balanced with setting atmosphere.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:32:46pm |
re: #475 NJDhockeyfan
If that company really was going to sell that to Iran they should be shut down and the employees responsible jailed. This is treasonous.
It's an Italian company, so it's not treason. But Italy has agreed not to sell such things to Iran, so the company can indeed be shut down and the employees responsible sent to prison. Iran, however, can put up enough money that someone will always take the chance and try to smuggle for them.
It's the Smuggler's Blues:
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Shiplord Kirel Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:33:05pm |
re: #474 Killgore Trout
Oops, that was from 2009!
/My mistake
Well, now, that's different. We know that all the open racists have been deported to FEMA detention camps since the first of the year.
Speaking of which, I still think it's scandalous that FEMA does not have enough camp space for all the patriots, Christians, and gun owners, even after 15 or 20 years of round-the-clock work.
This is a classic example of bureaucratic intertia and delay.
As another lizardoid suggested a while back, it is past time to get FEMA out of the camp business and privatize our secret detention operations.
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Racer X Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:33:09pm |
Rant on:
I just saw news headline that says "Families suffer after adoption flap." I'm sorry. When we run out of kids here in America that need to be adopted, then I'll feel sorry for people who cannot adopt kids from some other country. Nothing against Russian kids who need to be adopted, I just see a need closer to home.
Rant off.
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drcordell Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:33:09pm |
Holy shit that is epic. Wow. When the rocket thrust sucks the billowing smoke back down into the blast tunnels, unbelievable.
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Varek Raith Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:34:01pm |
re: #489 drcordell
Holy shit that is epic. Wow. When the rocket thrust sucks the billowing smoke back down into the blast tunnels, unbelievable.
Heh, rockets always bring out the kid in me.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:34:22pm |
I hate to use raving lunatic Debbie Schlussel as a source for anything but....
Tea Parties Host Open Anti-Semite, Nazi Defender, Israel Hater
.....open anti-Semite, Nazi defender, and Israel hater Jim Traficant (ne Traficante) is a featured, invited speaker at the Tea Party events throughout Ohio, this week–including events in Canfield, Springboro, and Warren, among others. (Ironically, Traficant dropped out of the Springboro event because the organizer called Hispanics “Spicks” on Twitter–he approves bigotry against Jews, but not Hispanics). And he’s been a Tea Party speaker before, in 2009.
I checked her sources and she's correct.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:34:22pm |
re: #483 Dreggas
Oh, I remember it, I just never played it. Didn't really do any of the P&P D&D either, but I know more about that stuff than the average abstainer because back in highschool my friend's older brother had just about every damn source book there was. I'd get baked and read through his collection for hours. That's how I know who Vecna is.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:34:59pm |
re: #465 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
This scanner mocks me. Sitting at 1487 out of 1490 systems.. END DAMN YOU!!!
nmap?
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:36:00pm |
re: #486 Dark_Falcon
It's an Italian company, so it's not treason. But Italy has agreed not to sell such things to Iran, so the company can indeed be shut down and the employees responsible sent to prison. Iran, however, can put up enough money that someone will always take the chance and try to smuggle for them.
It's the Smuggler's Blues:
[Video]
If they do that they better check the authenticity of the money first.
US believes Iran behind millions in fake money
NASIRIYAH, Iraq: At least $US4 million ($4.3 million) in counterfeit American currency has flooded into Iraq since December.US military officials are unsure how much of the counterfeiting is simply criminal and how much might have been an Iranian attempt to influence Iraqi elections last month.
While some of the bills are crudely made and easily detected, US military officials say much of the money seized so far has been sophisticated $100 notes that require special printing presses, ink and paper.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:36:53pm |
By the way, I met two grrrls tonight, both of whom insisted I write down their email addresses in my iPhone.
One is named Shannon, a not-so-good Irish Catholic grrrl, with green eyes, red hair, freckles, the whole Irish package. She's unemployed like me, has a good sense of humor, is "age appropriate" - but has dodgy eyes.
The other is Maitreya, a Buddhist grrrl born and bred, with dark curly hair, Frank Zappa's ideal bust size, a quick wit and a look-you-right-in-the-eye manner (which signifies two things: 1. if you look away you're a pussy and I'm done with you, and 2. if you don't, I'll fuck you within an inch of your life), and a meditative-but-sexy air about her that says "give me a try". Like, tomorrow at the latest. Plus she's a dancer. Next best thing to a gymnast, unless you're unlucky like Seinfeld, which I'm not.
Only thing is, she's my imaginary daughter's age.
So whom should I email first? Or should I do both? Hedge my bets? It's so hard on a fat old fart, all these choices. But it makes me think, maybe my project of going to live in a ridiculously small town in Maine was not so clever after all.
Vivant big-city grrrls!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:37:10pm |
re: #492 Slumbering Behemoth
Oh, I remember it, I just never played it. Didn't really do any of the P&P D&D either, but I know more about that stuff than the average abstainer because back in highschool my friend's older brother had just about every damn source book there was. I'd get baked and read through his collection for hours. That's how I know who Vecna is.
I'm imagining a treasure trove of AD&D books in a basement, fully shag carpeted, wood panelled walls, and lots of black light posters, maybe a BC rich warlock leaning against one wall...
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:37:25pm |
I was 10 when Apollo 11 went to the moon. We used to kick everybodies ass in space. Now we're gonna have to hitch a ride with the Russians! To put ourselves into space. Gaaah.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:38:16pm |
re: #491 Killgore Trout
He did indeed speak at the Ohio Tea Party...
JIM TRAFICANT PT 2
Jim Traficant in Trumbull county Ohio - T.E.A. Party - Campaign for Liberty 4-10-2010
The crowd loves him.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:38:44pm |
re: #497 WindUpBird
You got the guitar and the posters right! Close enough, say the judges.
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keloyd Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:39:18pm |
re: #491 Killgore Trout
I'm not sure "antisemite" is the right word for Jim Traficant. His mind has unraveled so much, his rants are so notorious on myriad subjects, and he lashes out at everyone, everywhere, with such regularity, that we should reserve the term and keep our powder dry for when it fits.
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:39:34pm |
re: #499 Killgore Trout
Didn't look at the vid. I remember he had the worst wig I'd ever seen.
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drcordell Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:39:34pm |
re: #498 pingjockey
I was 10 when Apollo 11 went to the moon. We used to kick everybodies ass in space. Now we're gonna have to hitch a ride with the Russians! To put ourselves into space. Gaaah.
The money was much better spent blowing up Iraq and then rebuilding it!
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Varek Raith Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:40:18pm |
re: #498 pingjockey
I was 10 when Apollo 11 went to the moon. We used to kick everybodies ass in space. Now we're gonna have to hitch a ride with the Russians! To put ourselves into space. Gaaah.
Blame Congress.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:40:47pm |
re: #494 NJDhockeyfan
There could be a North Korean angle there. The Norks have been known to manufacture such "supernote" counterfeit bills before.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:40:49pm |
re: #500 Slumbering Behemoth
You got the guitar and the posters right! Close enough, say the judges.
ahahaha are you kidding? RAD :D
The Warlock is the guitar that screams I PLAY THRASH AND NOTHING ELSE, I love it :D
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Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:40:59pm |
re: #499 Killgore Trout
Wow, he's also threatening to give out personal information (license plate #, SS#, and address) of people who oppose whatever the fuck he's talking about.
Yikes!
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:41:01pm |
re: #503 drcordell
I give up. Yep, GWB stole the Lindbergh baby, killed Lizzie Bordens' parents and blew up the WTC.
| 509 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:41:13pm |
Netanyahu must show sincerity on peace - Clinton
WASHINGTON: The United States called Thursday on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to prove his commitment to a Palestinian state, warning that prolonged conflict only strengthened extremists.
Amid US tensions with Netanyahu, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton urged “bold leadership” from all sides to resolve one of the world’s most intractable disputes and also pressed Arab states to show they wanted to make peace.
Speaking at a dinner attended by the ambassadors of Israel and several Arab states, Clinton was forthright in her demands of Netanyahu, urging Israel to “refrain from unilateral statements and actions” that could undermine peace.
...Praising efforts by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas to tackle violence, corruption and economic woes, Clinton said she feared his constituents would look to the Islamist movement Hamas if he is unable to show achievements.
What's wrong with this picture?
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:41:28pm |
re: #440 HoosierHoops
That's the luckiest dog on earth & he loves YOU!
Which makes you pretty lucky too!
(You'd better heat the pool before you throw him in. No telling WHAT he'd do to get even, if you don't!)
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Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:41:39pm |
re: #501 keloyd
I'm not sure "antisemite" is the right word for Jim Traficant. His mind has unraveled so much, his rants are so notorious on myriad subjects, and he lashes out at everyone, everywhere, with such regularity, that we should reserve the term and keep our powder dry for when it fits.
He's a White Supremacist and antisemite. No question about it.
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:42:28pm |
re: #509 NJDhockeyfan
Can't you just feel the love for Israel emanating from the administration?!
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:45:06pm |
North Korea Said to Have Created Company for Exporting WMDs
Despite the United Nations sanctions against North Korea's nuclear defiance the communist North is said to have set up a company specifically for exporting weapons of mass destruction to Iran.
Japanese Former Defense Minister Yuriko Koike told the German business daily Handelsblatt that Pyeongyang recently created a trade company called Yonggaksan which is in charge of exporting missiles and nuclear technology to Iran.
Koike who served as the defense chief under former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe claims she found out about the illicit arms trade company from an internal document leaked from the Workers' Party of North Korea.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:45:35pm |
re: #496 Cato the Elder
By the way, I met two grrrls tonight, both of whom insisted I write down their email addresses in my iPhone.
One is named Shannon, a not-so-good Irish Catholic grrrl, with green eyes, red hair, freckles, the whole Irish package. She's unemployed like me, has a good sense of humor, is "age appropriate" - but has dodgy eyes.
So whom should I email first? Or should I do both? Hedge my bets? It's so hard on a fat old fart, all these choices. But it makes me think, maybe my project of going to live in a ridiculously small town in Maine was not so clever after all.
You mentioned St. Francis de Zappa, so let us meditate upon his wisdom in search of an answer:
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:45:45pm |
re: #503 drcordell
The money was much better spent blowing up Iraq and then rebuilding it!
How the hell can you rebuild something you haven't blown up yet?
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:45:46pm |
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Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:46:27pm |
DONE! Now I just need to pull the reports and I can leave!
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drcordell Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:47:09pm |
re: #517 Cato the Elder
How the hell can you rebuild something you haven't blown up yet?
Uhhh.... what planet are you living on? Every piece of infrastructure in that country was blown to shit with "shock and awe" on day one of the war.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:47:18pm |
re: #509 NJDhockeyfan
Netanyahu must show sincerity on peace - Clinton
What's wrong with this picture?
First, the notion that there is anything resembling a "peace process", and second, the idea that this fictional process can be furthered.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:47:19pm |
re: #509 NJDhockeyfan
Netanyahu must show sincerity on peace - Clinton
What's wrong with this picture?
Hillary is praising the wrong side. She's forgotten who our friend is and who the enemy is.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:48:16pm |
re: #513 freetoken
What would Haku do?
Been there, done that. He jumps in bed just in time to remind me to make coffee!
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drcordell Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:48:32pm |
re: #522 Dark_Falcon
Hillary is praising the wrong side. She's forgotten who our friend is and who the enemy is.
I sincerely doubt that.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:49:02pm |
re: #522 Dark_Falcon
Hillary is praising the wrong side. She's forgotten who our friend is and who the enemy is.
She's just doing what her boss tells her to do. I would say she probably agrees anyway.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:49:33pm |
re: #520 drcordell
Uhhh... what planet are you living on? Every piece of infrastructure in that country was blown to shit with "shock and awe" on day one of the war.
Right. So those power systems that were dismantled were looted by what? Poltergeists? Get your facts straight.
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Mocking Jay Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:50:13pm |
re: #522 Dark_Falcon
Hillary is praising the wrong side. She's forgotten who our friend is and who the enemy is.
--- --- --- --- ---
Clinton in her speech also pressed the Arab world, calling on the Palestinian Authority to increase efforts against anti-Israeli “incitement and violence” and for all Arab leaders to do more to try to reconcile with Israel.
She called for “action, not just rhetoric” on the so-called Arab Peace Initiative in which Arab states agreed in general terms to normalize ties with Israel in return for its withdrawal from Palestinian lands.
“If the Arab Peace Initiative is indeed the genuine offer it appears to be, we should not face threats by certain Arab states that it will be ‘taken off the table’ each time there is a setback,” Clinton said.
Read more: [Link: www.dailystar.com.lb...]
(The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: [Link: www.dailystar.com.lb)...]
Wow. High praise indeed.
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ozbloke Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:50:55pm |
Damm Gubmint is killing small business.
An elaborate human-smuggling network that ferried tens of thousands of illegal immigrants into Arizona using shuttle vans was broken up Thursday during a series of raids, federal authorities said.
In what officials called the biggest operation of its kind targeting illegal-immigrant smuggling, 47 people were arrested at five companies in Phoenix, Tucson and Nogales during sweeps involving more than 800 federal agents and local police.
Mexican police rounded up more people south of the border in the culmination of a two-year Immigration and Customs Enforcement investigation into human smuggling linked to Mexican drug cartels.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:51:10pm |
re: #525 NJDhockeyfan
She's just doing what her boss tells her to do. I would say she probably agrees anyway.
I'd like to think she knows better. She may simply be annoyed with Netanyahu because he's a conservative (and a sane one, too).
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:51:13pm |
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:51:14pm |
re: #518 Floral Giraffe
LOL! Haku's a dog, he'd do them both!
Thanks for throwing red meat to the Blogmocrazy. They need it - because they think I'm Haku's love-bitch.
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drcordell Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:51:22pm |
re: #526 Dark_Falcon
Right. So those power systems that were dismantled were looted by what? Poltergeists? Get your facts straight.
What the fuck are you talking about? They were destroyed. Either by looters or by our missiles/bombs. Either way you fucking paid KBR to rebuild it. Are you debating that fact?
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drcordell Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:52:32pm |
re: #527 JasonA
Wow. High praise indeed.
Yeah, but you're coming from reality. That has no bearing on the "Obama hates the Joos" meme these people keep pushing.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:53:11pm |
re: #520 drcordell
Uhhh... what planet are you living on? Every piece of infrastructure in that country was blown to shit with "shock and awe" on day one of the war.
Maybe. You can second-guess all you want, but the museums were still standing until the local looters got there.
"Every piece of infrastructure"? You're as mad as my old aunt.
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Mocking Jay Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:53:36pm |
re: #533 drcordell
Yeah, but you're coming from reality. That has no bearing on the "Obama hates the Joos" meme these people keep pushing.
JUICE!
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:54:33pm |
re: #532 drcordell
What the fuck are you talking about? They were destroyed. Either by looters or by our missiles/bombs. Either way you fucking paid KBR to rebuild it. Are you debating that fact?
We did the same thing in Germany. How did that work out?
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drcordell Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:54:44pm |
re: #534 Cato the Elder
Maybe. You can second-guess all you want, but the museums were still standing until the local looters got there.
"Every piece of infrastructure"? You're as mad as my old aunt.
What the fuck? Museums? That isn't infrastructure. I'm talking about power stations, water treatment plants, police stations, sewage plants. All of that was blown up in the lead-up to the invasion. And we paid to rebuild all of it.
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freetoken Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:54:46pm |
gulp...
Calif. unemployment hits record high
While U.S. unemployment numbers remained mostly unchanged for March, there was bad news for California, where unemployment rose to 12.6 percent, analysts said.
California's record rate was well above the national number of 9.7 percent for March reported by the Department of Labor's Bureau of Labor Statistics, The Sand Diego Union-Tribune reported Friday.
With 458,600 fewer people employed over the last year, California was tied for third with Rhode Island behind Michigan and Nevada for the worst jobless rates in the country, the newspaper said.
The national rate of 9.7 percent held steady for the third straight month, up from 8.6 percent in March 2000, the Union-Tribune reported.
Over the last decade or two the heart of California growth was the construction industry, with the never ending building of bigger and bigger houses farther and farther away from the metropolitan centers. Now, hardly anybody wants to build those monstrosities out in the hinterlands; and, few people are putting in new pools, etc.
Now, with the outsourcing of white collar (e.g., software engineering) to other nations, and with defense/aerospace spending no longer growing, California is finding that fewer people can afford $500,000 houses.
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Digital Display Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:55:04pm |
re: #531 Cato the Elder
Thanks for throwing red meat to the Blogmocrazy. They need it - because they think I'm Haku's love-bitch.
How much do you think I could get for Winston at eBay? He likes to jump up on your chest at 5am and lick your nose...He is an advanced alarm clock..
Do you think I could off him for ten bucks?
*wink*
| 540 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:55:36pm |
re: #532 drcordell
What the fuck are you talking about? They were destroyed. Either by looters or by our missiles/bombs. Either way you fucking paid KBR to rebuild it. Are you debating that fact?
No, but you said:
re: #520 drcordell
Uhhh... what planet are you living on? Every piece of infrastructure in that country was blown to shit with "shock and awe" on day one of the war.
I was simply pointing out that your argument was factually incorrect.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:55:46pm |
re: #496 Cato the Elder
By the way, I met two grrrls tonight, both of whom insisted I write down their email addresses in my iPhone.
One is named Shannon, a not-so-good Irish Catholic grrrl, with green eyes, red hair, freckles, the whole Irish package. She's unemployed like me, has a good sense of humor, is "age appropriate" - but has dodgy eyes.
The other is Maitreya, a Buddhist grrrl born and bred, with dark curly hair, Frank Zappa's ideal bust size, a quick wit and a look-you-right-in-the-eye manner (which signifies two things: 1. if you look away you're a pussy and I'm done with you, and 2. if you don't, I'll fuck you within an inch of your life), and a meditative-but-sexy air about her that says "give me a try". Like, tomorrow at the latest. Plus she's a dancer. Next best thing to a gymnast, unless you're unlucky like Seinfeld, which I'm not.
Only thing is, she's my imaginary daughter's age.
So whom should I email first? Or should I do both? Hedge my bets? It's so hard on a fat old fart, all these choices. But it makes me think, maybe my project of going to live in a ridiculously small town in Maine was not so clever after all.
Vivant big-city grrrls!
You can do better. Take iPhone, delete and see what tomorrow brings...
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Racer X Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:55:48pm |
Ahh. I see we went from USA is cool (NASA's moon missions) to USA is evil (Bush destroyed Iraq and killed Billions!) in the blink of an eye.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:56:03pm |
re: #534 Cato the Elder
Maybe. You can second-guess all you want, but the museums were still standing until the local looters got there.
Not being of military significance, it's hardly puzzling why they weren't specifically targeted.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:56:35pm |
re: #537 drcordell
What the fuck? Museums? That isn't infrastructure. I'm talking about power stations, water treatment plants, police stations, sewage plants. All of that was blown up in the lead-up to the invasion. And we paid to rebuild all of it.
Mmm. I think thou dost underestimate the modern military. Of which I am no knee-jerk fan.
Tell me again about that phony "Lancet" article, why don't you.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:57:26pm |
re: #541 The Shadow Do
You can do better. Take iPhone, delete and see what tomorrow brings...
Nope. Chances are chances.
| 549 |
William of Orange Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:59:01pm |
I remember vividly. I was..... 8 days old. :-)
I was sad to hear of the passing of Peter Steele, lead singer of Type O Negative. His voice could bring your granny an orgasm. It's sad that this monumental voice is silent forever. To illustrate my point, here's the signature song why I bought the album October Rust back in the 90's.
Only a few years ago he reverted to Catholism after being an
atheist all his life. I hope h got what he deserved, a place in the Pantheon of rock, cause he sure was a pillar.
| 550 |
Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 5:59:45pm |
God dammit, now the report generation is taking forever. END DAMN YOU!
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drcordell Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:00:00pm |
re: #540 Dark_Falcon
I was simply pointing out that your argument was factually incorrect.
You didn't point out ANYTHING. You simply said I was wrong without establishing a single fact. The entire doctrine of shock and awe was based on utterly decimating Iraqi infrastructure.
Here's the fucking link.
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]
You also take the city down. By that I mean you get rid of their power, water. In 2,3,4,5 days they are physically, emotionally and psychologically exhausted,"
That's the quote from the architect of Shock and Awe himself. Again, you have no idea what you are talking about.
| 552 |
Digital Display Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:00:26pm |
re: #549 William of Orange
Read that today..He was very talented...
Rest in Peace
| 553 |
Racer X Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:00:26pm |
re: #538 freetoken
gulp...
Calif. unemployment hits record high
Over the last decade or two the heart of California growth was the construction industry, with the never ending building of bigger and bigger houses farther and farther away from the metropolitan centers. Now, hardly anybody wants to build those monstrosities out in the hinterlands; and, few people are putting in new pools, etc.
Now, with the outsourcing of white collar (e.g., software engineering) to other nations, and with defense/aerospace spending no longer growing, California is finding that fewer people can afford $500,000 houses.
GM, Chrysler, and the large banks were all too big to fail, so the federal government bailed them out. Why is California about to declare bankruptcy? Isn't California also too big to fail?
| 554 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:00:43pm |
re: #550 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
God dammit, now the report generation is taking forever. END DAMN YOU!
Shoot yer computer.
| 555 |
keloyd Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:00:52pm |
re: #511 Killgore Trout
Traficant is a ways down the road to being that math dude from A Beautiful Mind. He sees conspiracies and plots under every rock. If your mind is creating this nonsense over decades, a certain Chosen People are likely to make an appearance in those fantasies. His anti-Semitism should be mentioned in context with his spooky talk (see Wiki) about Jimmy Hoffa, who really killed JFK, Pan Am Flight 103, Waco, and Ruby Ridge. Anti-Semitic quotes by Traficant abound, but I wouldn't be surprised if some undiagnosed sickness of the mind and medications could make many of his quirks go away.
David Duke is a proper anti-Semite. John Forbes Nash and Traficant have said anti-Semitic things during various rants, but it's a horse of a different color.
| 556 |
Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:01:39pm |
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:01:41pm |
re: #538 freetoken
As we outsource manned space flight. Ouch.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:01:42pm |
re: #551 drcordell
That's the quote from the architect of Shock and Awe himself. Again, you have no idea what you are talking about.
How would you fight a war...walk in with roses and cheesecake?
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drcordell Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:02:18pm |
re: #545 Cato the Elder
Mmm. I think thou dost underestimate the modern military. Of which I am no knee-jerk fan.
Tell me again about that phony "Lancet" article, why don't you.
What in the hell are you even talking about? You idiots are so offended by my presence that you have to oppose every single thing I say, even when it is 100% indisputable fact.
Shock and Awe explicitly targeted and destroyed Iraqi infrastructure. That is the basis of the entire doctrine. Go read about it here:
[Link: www.globalsecurity.org...]
It will mean the ability to control the environment and to master all levels of an opponent's activities to affect will, perception, and understanding. This could include means of communication, transportation, food production, water supply, and other aspects of infrastructure as well as the denial of military responses.
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Randall Gross Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:02:49pm |
Rand Simberg's take here
[Link: www.popularmechanics.com...]
At Space Review they are on the fence but leaning away:
[Link: www.thespacereview.com...]
Jerry Pournelle has been oddly silent since you normally can't keep him quiet about any news about the Space program. He's a dyed in the wool conservative so I suspect this is a sign that he might actually like the new direction, since it matches what he's been saying for years about private ventures taking over the near space ventures but he's not going to talk about it because it would be positive for Obama.
| 561 |
drcordell Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:03:12pm |
re: #558 NJDhockeyfan
How would you fight a war...walk in with roses and cheesecake?
No you fucking imbecile. I wouldn't invade a country that was completely unassociated with 9/11.
| 562 |
drcordell Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:03:48pm |
re: #557 Rightwingconspirator
As we outsource manned space flight. Ouch.
Isn't the free market always the best solution? The government has NEVER CREATED A SINGLE JOB! Remember that fact.
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Racer X Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:03:54pm |
re: #557 Rightwingconspirator
As we outsource manned space flight. Ouch.
It's been outsourced to Boeing and Rocketdyne for years. Unfortunately it looks like it will soon be outsourced to Russia.
| 564 |
freetoken Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:03:54pm |
re: #553 Racer X
The stimulus bill essentially bailed out California and other states.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:04:34pm |
re: #559 drcordell
We did worse things to the Germans. We rebuilt their country after the war and now they are a thriving democracy.
| 567 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:05:07pm |
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:05:27pm |
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drcordell Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:05:37pm |
re: #566 NJDhockeyfan
We did worse things to the Germans. We rebuilt their country after the war and now they are a thriving democracy.
That's great. What a creative analogy you used there.
| 571 |
Racer X Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:05:51pm |
re: #561 drcordell
No you fucking imbecile. I wouldn't invade a country that was completely unassociated with 9/11.
Waaa aaa aaa aaa aaa ahhhhhhhh!
| 573 |
The Shadow Do Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:06:17pm |
re: #539 HoosierHoops
How much do you think I could get for Winston at eBay? He likes to jump up on your chest at 5am and lick your nose...He is an advanced alarm clock..
Do you think I could off him for ten bucks?
*wink*
Not sure about an appropriate price.
Though I would pay about $3.27 for a reliable alarm clock (competitive with Walmart). My puppies will sleep every bit as late as I do so $3.27 would be worth it, at least until he learned to lead the laid back, got it made, lifestyle my four worthless pooches seem to take for granted. Then I will have to send him back and ask for the refund.
| 574 |
Racer X Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:06:52pm |
re: #564 freetoken
The stimulus bill essentially bailed out California and other states.
CA is still heading towards bankruptcy - at least L.A. is. These clowns in charge still do not get it that they are out of money.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:06:55pm |
And now here's something for Varek Raith:
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Digital Display Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:08:56pm |
re: #566 NJDhockeyfan
We did worse things to the Germans. We rebuilt their country after the war and now they are a thriving democracy.
There was much American blood shed in Iraq for those pictures of purple fingers on AP...
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:08:56pm |
re: #562 drcordell
Okay, Those "government jobs" that a bunch of people have are jobs. As are the jobs at space and military contractors. Call it created or not. But Burt Rutan is not yet able to take people into orbit or the ISS. Until then I'll take NASA and Boeing or whoever, including Rutan and Virgin Space. As soon as they can.
Free market means outsourcing or not is a decision. Off shore outsourcing has consequences that contribute to the jam we are in. May we please not repeat the mistake?
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drcordell Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:09:11pm |
re: #566 NJDhockeyfan
We did worse things to the Germans. We rebuilt their country after the war and now they are a thriving democracy.
Enjoy your Nazi analogies for the rest of the night, I'm off to consume mass quantities of ethyl alcohol. Any lizards in NYC want to meet up, I'll be at underbar @ the W union square. See you there!
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Ojoe Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:09:29pm |
re: #364 Cato the Elder
My great aunt Romilda, one of my favorite aunts, had heard Caruso sing. And my dad was a great fan of John McCormack.
I especially like Caruso singing Puccini, it is a great match; Puccini, whom the critics called weepy, and overwrought.
But Opera often is that.
| 580 |
Kragar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:09:50pm |
re: #574 Racer X
CA is still heading towards bankruptcy - at least L.A. is. These clowns in charge still do not get it that they are out of money.
Perhaps if we can form a taskforce to see where the money is going. We'll need to set up and advertising program to let everyone know were looking into the problem, a vehicle budget, staffers, equipment. Hmm, we better have a committee meeting to see what else we'll need. We'll have the meeting on Catalina, its nice this time of year.
| 581 |
Daniel Ballard Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:10:19pm |
re: #578 drcordell
Aww. Right when I thought we could show a flame free debate.
Enjoy, I wish I was there.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:10:45pm |
re: #265 tradewind
Write your Congresspersons, and tell them no company is Too Big To Fail.
They're trying to codify the safety net.
The safety net for people who make more than $500,000 per annum was codified under The Great Prevaricator.
The rest of us have to look out for ourselves.
| 583 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:11:34pm |
You guys have got to see this McCain ad ripping on J.D. Hayworth. It's a scream!
| 585 |
The Shadow Do Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:12:25pm |
re: #548 Cato the Elder
Nope. Chances are chances.
Tomorrow could see Angelina Jolie delivered in chains to your threshold.
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Varek Raith Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:12:27pm |
re: #583 Dark_Falcon
You guys have got to see this McCain ad ripping on J.D. Hayworth. It's a scream!
[Video]
ROFL
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:17:17pm |
re: #559 drcordell
You're an idiot if you think I'm your enemy.
What would you have us do in modern warfare? Target infrastructure or population? We did the former in Iraq.
We did the latter in Dresden.
Live and learn.
By the way, in case your narrow mind can't recognize the plain fact, my posts here have nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not I approved of the Iraq invasion.
Too complicated for you? Go get drunk!
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Digital Display Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:18:25pm |
re: #584 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Finally done, later
Are you crazy? Hehehe
weet dreams bro...
It is NBA playoff weekend.. I have Rocky playing on the Big screen..Blogging on the dual core Dell and Streaming a movie on the new HP Elitebook...We have tons of food and lots of beer..And it is a beautiful night in Indiana..All the Doors and windows are open and Winston keeps running back inside wanting to play...
Let's get this party started!
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:19:13pm |
re: #587 The Shadow Do
The good Dr has left the room.
But Mandy is here.
Waiting to see what happens when she finds out I've dumped her for Summer and random Baltimore grrrls met in bars.
| 591 |
Daniel Ballard Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:20:15pm |
This is when I like the private lounges. Friday night in with my D_L, fine adult beverages, and its a good bunch logged in.
| 592 |
Racer X Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:21:54pm |
re: #578 drcordell
Enjoy your Nazi analogies for the rest of the night, I'm off to consume mass quantities of ethyl alcohol. Any lizards in NYC want to meet up, I'll be at underbar @ the W union square. See you there!
Are you freaking kidding?
We are sitting here having a nice chat, you stroll in, piss all over, tell everyone here they are all idiots, then invite us over to your place for a drink.
Really?
| 593 |
MandyManners Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:22:35pm |
R.I.P., Dr. Benjamin Hooks, a gentleman of the highest caliber.
By the end of his life, Dr. Benjamin L. Hooks would be invited to the White House by President George W. Bush to receive the nation's highest civilian honor, the Presidential Medal of Freedom, and months later would visit with a black presidential candidate named Barack Obama on his condominium balcony with a majestic view of the Mississippi River.
SNIP
Dr. Hooks had spent much of his later career in Washington, serving for five years as the first African-American commissioner for the Federal Communications Commission (nominated by President Richard Nixon) and then, from 1977 to 1992, as executive director of the NAACP.
In 1965, when he was named to the Tennessee Criminal Court, he became the first black judge in the South since Reconstruction.
SNIP
When he received the Medal of Freedom in 2007 at the White House, Dr. Hooks said, "I thank God, and I thank the people for what they gave me, and that was an opportunity to serve."
That ferocious commitment to serve his fellow man often compelled Frances, his wife of 50 years and now his widow, to jokingly remind Dr. Hooks that he had a wife and a personal life, too. He also is survived by his daughter, Patricia Gray, and two grandsons.
Dr. Hooks grew up in Memphis, the fifth of seven children to Robert and Bessie Hooks.
Dr. Hooks received an undergraduate degree from LeMoyne College in Memphis and served in the Army in World War II, guarding prisoners of war. But he was forced to leave the South to gain his law degree, at DePaul University in Chicago.
Dr. Hooks returned to Memphis and began practicing law in 1949, and as the first seeds of the civil rights movement began to bear hard-won fruit, he joined forces with many young black Memphians, including Mrs. Smith and her recently deceased husband, dentist Vasco Smith.
Dr. Hooks overcame a fear of public speaking to become a preacher himself, at Greater Middle Baptist Church, where he delivered sermons for 52 years before retiring from the pulpit early last year.
SNIP
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:23:25pm |
re: #577 Rightwingconspirator
Upding for Burt Rutan!
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keloyd Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:23:34pm |
All I know is The Shadow Knows up there made a comment about having Angelina Jolie delivered to your threshold in chains and the whole room went silent for like 5 minutes.
Way to put everyone in deep thought about anything but politics.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:25:25pm |
re: #595 keloyd
All I know is The Shadow Knows up there made a comment about having Angelina Jolie delivered to your threshold in chains and the whole room went silent for like 5 minutes.
Way to put everyone in deep thought about anything but politics.
They went out to look at their thresholds, in hope!
| 597 |
Daniel Ballard Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:25:37pm |
re: #563 Racer X
Exactly. I mean NASA issues specs and flies not builds. Outsourcing as we have-cool. I can't wait until Burt Rutan can fly people to orbit. Now he can only do a little hop arc to the edge of space and drop back. Great stuff for a pioneer of private space. ISS should be permanent.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:28:47pm |
re: #592 Racer X
We are sitting here having a nice chat, you stroll in, piss all over, tell everyone here they are all idiots, then invite us over to your place for a drink.
Welcome to the Internet. Are you new?
/ (sorta)
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:28:56pm |
re: #593 MandyManners
R.I.P., Dr. Benjamin Hooks, a gentleman of the highest caliber.
Thanks, Mandy. That's a true success story, of one of the outstanding men our nation has produced. Farewell, Dr. Hooks, and may angels sing thee to thy rest.
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Achilles Tang Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:30:50pm |
re: #562 drcordell
Isn't the free market always the best solution? The government has NEVER CREATED A SINGLE JOB! Remember that fact.
That is a silly statement born of knee jerk politics. Ask any Teabagger, who want the government to focus on jobs, not health care or banking reform.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:31:16pm |
re: #593 MandyManners
A terrible loss to everyone. The man casts a long shadow. A big agnostic "Bless Him" from me. So few honorable people in todays milieu just heightens the loss.
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:31:55pm |
/driveby.
I've gotta say, I kinda enjoy Drcordell's enormous balls.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:32:20pm |
re: #592 Racer X
Are you freaking kidding?
We are sitting here having a nice chat, you stroll in, piss all over, tell everyone here they are all idiots, then invite us over to your place for a drink.
Really?
I can't help but wonder if he's already hit that bar earlier today.
| 604 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:33:16pm |
re: #583 Dark_Falcon
You guys have got to see this McCain ad ripping on J.D. Hayworth. It's a scream![Video]
I'm getting divide-by-zero errors in my brain trying to reconcile that with Sarah Palin and John McCain post-2008. On the other hand, I think (based on no evidence at all, merely my sneakin' suspicion) part of McCain's problem in 2008 was that he let advisors and consultants run his campaign. Maybe he's doing it again.
Either way, I hope the people behind that ad produce many more of them in the future.
| 605 |
Shiplord Kirel Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:33:16pm |
Wow! Here's a serious waste of oxygen:
100-year-old pedophile sent back to NY prison
BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) -- A 100-year-old pedophile who violated his parole by skipping sex offender classes is back behind bars in upstate New York.
Theodore Sypnier was released to a Buffalo halfway house last fall after serving 18 months in prison for the same type of parole violation. The state Parole Board announced Friday that he had been ordered to serve two more years behind bars.
Authorities say Sypnier sexually molested children as young as 4 years old for decades in Buffalo and later in the Town of Tonawanda. He was released from prison in 2008, after serving time on a 1999 conviction for molesting two young sisters.
His 58-year-old daughter says Sypnier molested her and other neighborhood girls when she was young, and pedophiles never change no matter how old they get.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:33:24pm |
re: #602 windsagio
/driveby.
I've gotta say, I kinda enjoy Drcordell's enormous balls.
I don't mind them. What I don't like is his over-sized ass and his propensity to wear it as a hat.
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MandyManners Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:33:45pm |
re: #599 Dark_Falcon
Thanks, Mandy. That's a true success story, of one of the outstanding men our nation has produced. Farewell, Dr. Hooks, and may angels sing thee to thy rest.
His was a quiet yet persistent strength.
I am more than a bit peeved that the Commercial Appeal chose to include that critical snippet from the New York Times. It's an obit, for crying out loud.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:33:51pm |
re: #592 Racer X
Are you freaking kidding?
We are sitting here having a nice chat, you stroll in, piss all over, tell everyone here they are all idiots, then invite us over to your place for a drink.
Really?
Maybe some of the NYC lizards will show up, have a few drinks, and piss all over him.
| 609 |
Achilles Tang Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:33:59pm |
re: #602 windsagio
/driveby.
I've gotta say, I kinda enjoy Drcordell's enormous balls.
You are confusing left hemisphere and right hemisphere with something else.
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Digital Display Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:34:06pm |
re: #602 windsagio
/driveby.
I've gotta say, I kinda enjoy Drcordell's enormous balls.
The bigger the balls the smaller the brain.
so they say
| 611 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:35:01pm |
re: #604 negativ
I'm getting divide-by-zero errors in my brain trying to reconcile that with Sarah Palin and John McCain post-2008. On the other hand, I think (based on no evidence at all, merely my sneakin' suspicion) part of McCain's problem in 2008 was that he let advisors and consultants run his campaign. Maybe he's doing it again.
Either way, I hope the people behind that ad produce many more of them in the future.
Quite Concur. If McCain had run cutting and clever ads like that back in 2008, he would have made a better showing. He might still have lost, but he would have done better.
| 612 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:35:02pm |
re: #577 Rightwingconspirator
Neat Rutan article
[Link: www.airspacemag.com...]
| 613 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:35:25pm |
re: #602 windsagio
/driveby.
I've gotta say, I kinda enjoy Drcordell's enormous balls.
Cordell on occasion makes sense.
Then there's the whole insult everyone who disagrees with him in the most vile terms possible, assume people have said things they haven't, assume people must think this or that even though they've given no hint whatsoever that this or that is even a remote thought in their mind, the "you people", which is odd since he here and thus he himself is one of "you people".
It's just odd.
| 614 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:35:28pm |
re: #603 reine.de.tout
I can't help but wonder if he's already hit that bar earlier today.
Naa, he's always like that. Maybe he will mellow out with a few shots of bourbon.
| 615 |
MandyManners Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:35:34pm |
re: #601 The Shadow Do
A terrible loss to everyone. The man casts a long shadow. A big agnostic "Bless Him" from me. So few honorable people in todays milieu just heightens the loss.
I'd rather have one of him than 1,000 Sharptons.
| 616 |
windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:35:45pm |
re: #606 Dark_Falcon
He's a little energetic I admit :p
Now if only he'd been here 3 years, he could totally get away with posts like that!
| 617 |
windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:36:37pm |
re: #613 reine.de.tout
I can think of a number of places on the 'net that essentially train people to think like that. Its frustrating to me too, but I try to give him a bit of slack, the culture here is pretty different.
| 618 |
The Shadow Do Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:36:43pm |
re: #602 windsagio
/driveby.
I've gotta say, I kinda enjoy Drcordell's enormous balls.
He's an idiot. sorry.
| 619 |
Racer X Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:36:47pm |
| 620 |
MandyManners Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:36:49pm |
| 621 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:37:03pm |
re: #616 windsagio
He's a little energetic I admit :p
Now if only he'd been here 3 years, he could totally get away with posts like that!
LOL.
He gets away with them, anyhow!
What are you talking about?
So folks disagree with him? So what?
| 622 |
windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:37:31pm |
| 623 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:37:41pm |
re: #617 windsagio
I can think of a number of places on the 'net that essentially train people to think like that. Its frustrating to me too, but I try to give him a bit of slack, the culture here is pretty different.
yes, I try to just scroll on past.
Until it's me in his sights, then I have no choice.
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Achilles Tang Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:37:42pm |
re: #614 NJDhockeyfan
Naa, he's always like that. Maybe he will mellow out with a few shots of bourbon.
Does that work for you?
| 625 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:37:58pm |
| 627 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:38:25pm |
re: #610 HoosierHoops
The bigger the balls the smaller the brain.
so they say
I must quote that just to repeat it.
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MandyManners Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:38:33pm |
re: #613 reine.de.tout
Cordell on occasion makes sense.
Then there's the whole insult everyone who disagrees with him in the most vile terms possible, assume people have said things they haven't, assume people must think this or that even though they've given no hint whatsoever that this or that is even a remote thought in their mind, the "you people", which is odd since he here and thus he himself is one of "you people".
It's just odd.
Odd or an M.O.?
| 629 |
Jadespring Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:38:49pm |
Hello, everyone
How are you people doing tonight. :D
| 631 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:39:17pm |
re: #623 reine.de.tout
yes, I try to just scroll on past.
Until it's me in his sights, then I have no choice.
I tend to downding him for flaming people. I don't like that because it turns threads to slime.
| 632 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:39:35pm |
re: #578 drcordell
Enjoy your Nazi analogies for the rest of the night, I'm off to consume mass quantities of ethyl alcohol. Any lizards in NYC want to meet up, I'll be at underbar @ the W union square. See you there!
Did I miss something? I was grinding some lapis, painted jasper, opal, druzy quartz with gelena (silver and gold flakes) and some jasper. Making some nice pendants... was Dr. Cordell having fun with us?
| 634 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:39:48pm |
re: #624 Naso Tang
Does that work for you?
Sure. If I have a stressful week and need to wind down a bit, a couple shots of JD and a beer is just perfect.
| 635 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:40:06pm |
re: #620 MandyManners
In bed.
NO, dammit. "In bed" is old and busted. The new hotness is: "ON THE MOON".
True, the "in bed" suffix is sort of naughty, but "on the moon" is usually more absurd and thus provides more laughs.
Here endeth the lesson.
| 636 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:40:11pm |
| 637 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:40:21pm |
| 638 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:40:32pm |
re: #635 negativ
NO, dammit. "In bed" is old and busted. The new hotness is: "ON THE MOON".
True, the "in bed" suffix is sort of naughty, but "on the moon" is usually more absurd and thus provides more laughs.
Here endeth the lesson.
"to the moon" suit me...
| 639 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:40:44pm |
re: #632 Walter L. Newton
Did I miss something? I was grinding some lapis, painted jasper, opal, druzy quartz with gelena (silver and gold flakes) and some jasper. Making some nice pendants... was Dr. Cordell having fun with us?
He was just being an ass. He does that sometimes.
| 640 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:41:01pm |
re: #628 MandyManners
Odd or an M.O.?
For me, odd.
I'm not much affected by M.O.
I'm no genius, but I'm plenty smart enough to be able to draw my own conclusions. Now, there may bet those who think my conclusions are crap. So be it.
| 641 |
Digital Display Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:41:06pm |
re: #627 reine.de.tout
I must quote that just to repeat it.
I just made that up...It's playoff weekend and I'm on fire...
Hope today finds you well my friend
| 642 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:41:30pm |
| 643 |
Achilles Tang Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:41:34pm |
re: #632 Walter L. Newton
Did I miss something? I was grinding some lapis, painted jasper, opal, druzy quartz with gelena (silver and gold flakes) and some jasper. Making some nice pendants... was Dr. Cordell having fun with us?
I just got here, but is sounded like he was drinking/eating lapis, painted jasper, opal, druzy quartz with gelena (silver and gold flakes) and some jasper, not to mention the unmentionable he was doing with nice pendants.
| 644 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:41:36pm |
re: #629 Jadespring
Hello, everyone
How are you people doing tonight. :D
Fine, now.
Cordell just entered, pissed and left.
So right now - everything is A-OK.
| 645 |
MandyManners Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:41:42pm |
re: #635 negativ
NO, dammit. "In bed" is old and busted. The new hotness is: "ON THE MOON".
True, the "in bed" suffix is sort of naughty, but "on the moon" is usually more absurd and thus provides more laughs.
Here endeth the lesson.
I prefer the traditional phrase.
| 647 |
Achilles Tang Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:42:29pm |
re: #634 NJDhockeyfan
Sure. If I have a stressful week and need to wind down a bit, a couple shots of JD and a beer is just perfect.
Yes, but then you start to post...and the rest is in the archives..
| 648 |
MandyManners Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:42:47pm |
re: #640 reine.de.tout
For me, odd.
I'm not much affected by M.O.
I'm no genius, but I'm plenty smart enough to be able to draw my own conclusions. Now, there may bet those who think my conclusions are crap. So be it.
Crap? No way, Reine!
| 649 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:42:49pm |
re: #639 Dark_Falcon
He was just being an ass. He does that sometimes.
re: #643 Naso Tang
I just got here, but is sounded like he was drinking/eating lapis, painted jasper, opal, druzy quartz with gelena (silver and gold flakes) and some jasper, not to mention the unmentionable he was doing with nice pendants.
I see... nothing new.
| 650 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:43:40pm |
re: #632 Walter L. Newton
Did I miss something? I was grinding some lapis, painted jasper, opal, druzy quartz with gelena (silver and gold flakes) and some jasper. Making some nice pendants... was Dr. Cordell having fun with us?
You missed nothing of importance. Your time was better spent than mine, that's for sure.
| 651 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:43:53pm |
re: #649 Walter L. Newton
How's the job going Walter? (hi!)
| 652 |
Mocking Jay Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:44:28pm |
| 653 |
Daniel Ballard Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:44:39pm |
re: #623 reine.de.tout
Good point about training from other blogs
And you windsagio
I have had very mixed impressions about the Dr. The flame stuff I just do not do, not my thing. So I blow off his hot posts. BTW D_L pointed out a symbol in an earlier post from you to me today, I totally missed the stuck out tounge. Hah! I took your responses as more harsh than intended, my bad.
| 654 |
The Shadow Do Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:44:52pm |
re: #626 negativ
He could have had a future in film as that "kind of funny lookin" guy...
Fargo
What a shame.
| 655 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:44:53pm |
re: #641 HoosierHoops
Hey, HH
Yes, I'm fine, hope you are too!
Had a 1/2 dozen of The Best Chargrilled Oysters in the world earlier today. I can't tell you how good they were, I've been thinking for a week I needed some of those oysters.
| 656 |
Achilles Tang Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:45:47pm |
re: #649 Walter L. Newton
I see... nothing new.
True, but must be a politically slow night as it is still on the menu.
| 657 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:45:47pm |
| 658 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:46:00pm |
| 659 |
Jadespring Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:46:44pm |
re: #644 reine.de.tout
Fine, now.
Cordell just entered, pissed and left.
So right now - everything is A-OK.
Ah well, guess I missed it.
On another note, I'm really glad it's supposed to rain tomorrow because I overdid it outside today and think I won't be able to move when I wake up. It will be good to have a reason NOT to work outside.
| 660 |
The Shadow Do Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:47:23pm |
re: #641 HoosierHoops
I just made that up...It's playoff weekend and I'm on fire...
Hope today finds you well my friend
Lakers goin down, Hoops. They goin down!
Mavs! Mavs! Mavs!
(OKC just gotta wait, for now)
| 661 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:47:23pm |
re: #659 Jadespring
Ah well, guess I missed it.
On another note, I'm really glad it's supposed to rain tomorrow because I overdid it outside today and think I won't be able to move when I wake up. It will be good to have a reason NOT to work outside.
Geez.
If you get some rain, please send some down this-a-way, wouldja?
We're about to dry up and blow away.
| 662 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:48:16pm |
re: #651 Stanley Sea
How's the job going Walter? (hi!)
Fine actually... they called me in twice this week with extra hours than scheduled... and of course, as a new employee, I was not about to say "no." Today I was scheduled to work 4 hours, worked 8 and they left me alone with the U-scan (self checkout) station for 6 hours... first time on my own at that station... organized chaos to say the least.
I'm one of those people that find a lot of enjoyment in anything I do.
Out of all the different stations I can be at (regular register, express lane and self-serve) I like the regular register the best. It's really the most physical station, but it also give you the most opportunity to engage the customers and talk and enjoy them.
| 663 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:48:31pm |
Must return to painting.
I've been trying to spackle/sand/paint my dining room since Thanksgiving, and do it by moving the furniture around instead of completely out. Big Mistake. I'm still working on that room. Five months later.
| 664 |
Jadespring Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:48:38pm |
re: #661 reine.de.tout
Geez.
If you get some rain, please send some down this-a-way, wouldja?
We're about to dry up and blow away.
I'll try. That was us a week or so ago. Dry, dry, dry. Now it seems to be making up for itself.
| 665 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:48:50pm |
When are we going to realize sanctions aren't going to work? Russia & China won't allow tough sanctions and are working against the current ones. Here's China's latest move...
China Boosts Gas Sales to Iran, Irks U.S.
Reports emerging over the last two days suggest China is increasing its gasoline exports to Iran. The state-owned China National Petroleum Corp.’s trading unit, ChinaOil, shipped two cargoes totaling 600,000 barrels of gasoline direct to Iran for $55 million, according to Reuters. Meanwhile, the trading unit of the China Petroleum & Chemical Corp. (Sinopec), Unipec, reportedly agreed to sell 250,000 barrels to Iran. The barrels reportedly would have been loaded for shipment April 15 through a third party in Singapore.
Though the exports would seem to thwart U.S. efforts to isolate Iran, Beijing is wary that defying Washington on Iran could provoke retaliation it is unable to handle.
The reports come as Washington is accelerating both unilateral and multilateral efforts to impose sanctions on Iran over its nuclear program. Multilateral sanctions proposals have been diluted and caught up at the United Nations. But the United States has continued to proceed on the unilateral front. The U.S. Treasury Department has pressured firms to cut back on their trade with Iran — especially gasoline exports, as Iran imports about 40 percent of its gasoline — or risk damaging their prospects for U.S. business.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:49:10pm |
re: #664 Jadespring
I'll try. That was us a week or so ago. Dry, dry, dry. Now it seems to be making up for itself.
Well - for you, I hope it rains so you have that excuse to stay in bed!
Now - painting.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:50:20pm |
re: #662 Walter L. Newton
Fine actually... they called me in twice this week with extra hours than scheduled... and of course, as a new employee, I was not about to say "no." Today I was scheduled to work 4 hours, worked 8 and they left me alone with the U-scan (self checkout) station for 6 hours... first time on my own at that station... organized chaos to say the least.
I'm one of those people that find a lot of enjoyment in anything I do.
Out of all the different stations I can be at (regular register, express lane and self-serve) I like the regular register the best. It's really the most physical station, but it also give you the most opportunity to engage the customers and talk and enjoy them.
Walter, you've got a great work ethic. At the rate you're going, they'll be promoting you before July.
/not kidding
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Digital Display Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:50:43pm |
re: #660 The Shadow Do
Lakers goin down, Hoops. They goin down!
Mavs! Mavs! Mavs!
(OKC just gotta wait, for now)
I love the playoffs!
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:51:44pm |
re: #667 Dark_Falcon
Walter, you've got a great work ethic. At the rate you're going, they'll be promoting you before July.
/not kidding
No... no... no... I prefer being a grunt... I don't want any management track... no... I don't want to manage anyone.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:52:05pm |
re: #662 Walter L. Newton
Fine actually... they called me in twice this week with extra hours than scheduled... and of course, as a new employee, I was not about to say "no." Today I was scheduled to work 4 hours, worked 8 and they left me alone with the U-scan (self checkout) station for 6 hours... first time on my own at that station... organized chaos to say the least.
I'm one of those people that find a lot of enjoyment in anything I do.
Out of all the different stations I can be at (regular register, express lane and self-serve) I like the regular register the best. It's really the most physical station, but it also give you the most opportunity to engage the customers and talk and enjoy them.
Good to hear!!
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:52:36pm |
re: #667 Dark_Falcon
Walter, you've got a great work ethic. At the rate you're going, they'll be promoting you before July.
/not kidding
Oh... but thanks for the compliment. Honesty and loyalty are my best qualities. My worst personal qualities is honesty and loyalty.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:54:19pm |
re: #669 Walter L. Newton
No... no... no... I prefer being a grunt... I don't want any management track... no... I don't want to manage anyone.
I understand completely. That sort of responsibility carries a heavy burden.
| 673 |
researchok Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:54:48pm |
I'll say one thing....this blog is never boring.
Ever.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:57:02pm |
re: #672 Dark_Falcon
I understand completely. That sort of responsibility carries a heavy burden.
And, paperwork!
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:58:02pm |
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Jadespring Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:58:51pm |
re: #675 Stanley Sea
And employees not showing up!
I hated that the most when I was a manager. So frustrating.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 6:58:54pm |
Reine - I'm doing my proofing tomorrow morning. Just so you don't think I'm slacking here.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:00:35pm |
re: #676 Jadespring
I hated that the most when I was a manager. So frustrating.
I didn't like firing people...well most of them. There were a few I enjoyed firing but that's another story. The worst was a personal friend of mine. That was tough and ruined our friendship.
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MandyManners Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:00:41pm |
re: #665 NJDhockeyfan
When are we going to realize sanctions aren't going to work? Russia & China won't allow tough sanctions and are working against the current ones. Here's China's latest move...
BHO likes their infrastructure.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:00:57pm |
re: #677 Stanley Sea
I'm going to do some cookbook reading this weekend too. I figure I'll start somewhere near the middle or the end. Most people will probably focus on the beginning and not make it all the way through.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:01:10pm |
re: #675 Stanley Sea
And employees not showing up!
The loyal and hardworking employees also share the burden of those who call off. I've often been the one to stay late or come in on a day off to fill in. I know all about what someone not showing up means.
| 682 |
The Shadow Do Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:01:48pm |
re: #668 HoosierHoops
I love the playoffs!
Me too. Who gets to play against LeBron. That is the question. The West is even Steven. Great stuff. It all starts tomorrow!
| 683 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:01:59pm |
Controversial Iranian group closes website
A North York-based cultural organization has shut down its website after admitting it receives funding from Iran’s anti-democratic Islamic government.The Centre for Iranian Studies, which up until Thursday ran [Link: www.iranology.ca,...] would not explain why the site was closed. The message at the URL states: “This site is down for maintenance.”
“I have no comment,” said Maryam Dousti, the centre’s manager.
The centre, which calls itself a non-government organization, is said to be a propaganda tool of the Iranian government.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:02:07pm |
re: #680 Killgore Trout
I have "sides"
but of course, more eyes than mine will be better. I tried to start today and just got hungry. Went to the store.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:03:00pm |
re: #674 Floral Giraffe
And, paperwork!
Plus... in my case, if I was tracked to any sort of management position, such as head clerk or above, the chances of having to go to another store rises.
I took this job because it was part time, pays enough to cover my monthly financial obligations and is only 4 miles from my house up here in the mountains. It gives me time to service the few private programming clients I have (right now a karate studio and Kaiser), it gives me time for some of my other interests (lapidary) and I don't have to worry about driving too far in bad winter weather.
A management position would be too career like, and at 57, I'm not really interested in a "whole" new career. The only thing I want to be doing career wise is back programming 40 hours a week.
I stick at this as long as necessary, for ever if I have to, but I don't want to move into some late life career track that will just add new stress to my life.
I'm happy being a grunt.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:03:26pm |
re: #681 Dark_Falcon
The loyal and hardworking employees also share the burden of those who call off. I've often been the one to stay late or come in on a day off to fill in. I know all about what someone not showing up means.
It sucks, and it happens all the time. Part of the deal.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:03:59pm |
re: #677 Stanley Sea
Reine - I'm doing my proofing tomorrow morning. Just so you don't think I'm slacking here.
And you have the Voices from the Ghetto Multimedia CD too!
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Jadespring Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:04:46pm |
re: #678 NJDhockeyfan
I didn't like firing people...well most of them. There were a few I enjoyed firing but that's another story. The worst was a personal friend of mine. That was tough and ruined our friendship.
I was never in a position where I had to do the actual firing. I did have to suggest that a few be fired though. A couple were good riddance types though one I felt bad for. Nice person that just couldn't cut it even though they tried. That type was the worst.
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Digital Display Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:04:54pm |
re: #677 Stanley Sea
Reine - I'm doing my proofing tomorrow morning. Just so you don't think I'm slacking here.
Hey you! You are good people..Since you know reine I look forward to meeting you on projects..
Regards
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The Shadow Do Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:05:05pm |
re: #685 Walter L. Newton
10 year window ain't bad for a new career...just sayin
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Racer X Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:05:10pm |
re: #682 The Shadow Do
Me too. Who gets to play against LeBron. That is the question. The West is even Steven. Great stuff. It all starts tomorrow!
I'd like to think the Lakers can win it again (Boo! Hiss!), but reality is Cleveland is kicking ass this year. I think LeBron will get his ring.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:05:27pm |
re: #687 Walter L. Newton
And you have the Voices from the Ghetto Multimedia CD too!
I am full of free time now though, thank goodness. Tax time is over.
I hope you got my ty email for that. I really appreciate you sending it to me!
| 693 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:06:04pm |
Tomorrow I work 1-9:30 and I am going to take a picture out the large front end and show you what kind of view I have from my "office" when I work the self-scan station... it's wonderful... I'll take it tomorrow and post it Sunday morning some time.
| 694 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:06:20pm |
re: #689 HoosierHoops
Hoops, you are very kind. Backatcha!
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Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:06:54pm |
re: #689 HoosierHoops
Were you looking for today's Glenn Beck show earlier?
Posted on youtube now
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:06:58pm |
re: #692 Stanley Sea
I am full of free time now though, thank goodness. Tax time is over.
I hope you got my ty email for that. I really appreciate you sending it to me!
I did. Enjoy it.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:09:27pm |
re: #691 Racer X
I'd like to think the Lakers can win it again (Boo! Hiss!), but reality is Cleveland is kicking ass this year. I think LeBron will get his ring.
Let me provide some master prognostication. The Lakers lose to Dallas in 7 (the best road team in the West).
LeBron? Ain't enough around him. Mavs win!
Of course this is totally objective. Of course.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:10:37pm |
re: #663 reine.de.tout
Must return to painting.
I've been trying to spackle/sand/paint my dining room since Thanksgiving, and do it by moving the furniture around instead of completely out. Big Mistake. I'm still working on that room. Five months later.
I've been Meaning To Get Around To Finishing the paint job on the interior surface of my front door for about 5 months now. I have all the necessary supplies. There is nothing stopping me apart from my own laziness.
Luckily, I don't have a wife to complain about it every 5 minutes.
Back when I was married, an all-too-common weekend would go something like this:
8:30am Saturday WIFE: Hey, sometime today I'd like to rearrange the furniture in the living room, could I get you to help me?
8:30am Saturday ME: Of course, just say 'when'.
8:34am Saturday ME, to SELF: {browses the web} Hmm, KEH has a really good price on a 35mm/f1.8 Nikkor, I think I'll buy it. (Utterly disposable income spent, no harm done)
8:35am Saturday ME: OK, I'll be in there in just a minute.
8:37am Saturday WIFE: WRAAAAAAAAR! OMFG You just spent $94 on a camera lens without consulting me, but when I tried to get you to spend $250,000 that we didn't remotely have on a life-size Barbie Doll house you said "no"! I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU and therefore I'm going to have sex with every disgusting bizarrely overweight pig I work with, and then I'm going to sue you for divorce, and the State of Texas is going to force you at gunpoint to pay me money forever and ever and ever until you die.
| 699 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:10:55pm |
I was thinking about the Goldman Sachs scam: Would it be wrong for the government to seize the company and sell it off to help pay for the damage of the financial crisis?
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Digital Display Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:11:42pm |
re: #695 Killgore Trout
Were you looking for today's Glenn Beck show earlier?
Posted on youtube now
Thank you KT..I'll need to search the show to find his posting..
I know exactly what he said...Time is on my side..
Thanks KT..I'd didn't TIVO the show today
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:14:07pm |
re: #701 HoosierHoops
Thank you KT..I'll need to search the show to find his posting..
I know exactly what he said...Time is on my side..
Thanks KT..I'd didn't TIVO the show today
I didn't realize Glenn Beck was so popular on here. I don't think I've ever watched a complete show and it's been a while since I watched any of it.
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Renaissance_Man Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:14:21pm |
re: #698 negativ
8:37am Saturday WIFE: WRAAAR! OMFG You just spent $94 on a camera lens without consulting me, but when I tried to get you to spend $250,000 that we didn't remotely have on a life-size Barbie Doll house you said "no"! I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU and therefore I'm going to have sex with every disgusting bizarrely overweight pig I work with, and then I'm going to sue you for divorce, and the State of Texas is going to force you at gunpoint to pay me money forever and ever and ever until you die.
Um.
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MandyManners Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:14:43pm |
re: #678 NJDhockeyfan
I didn't like firing people...well most of them. There were a few I enjoyed firing but that's another story. The worst was a personal friend of mine. That was tough and ruined our friendship.
Wait a minute.
Weren't his behaviors that lead to his firing what ruined your friendship?
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Jadespring Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:14:48pm |
re: #678 NJDhockeyfan
I didn't like firing people...well most of them. There were a few I enjoyed firing but that's another story. The worst was a personal friend of mine. That was tough and ruined our friendship.
Oh funny almost getting fired story. We had a guy that was constantly late. This was at a snowboard school so usually it had something to do with partying the night before. He got all his warnings and was on a 'one more time and your gone' program. So we have one of the huge yearly staff party the night before and he's not there at lesson time. Everyone liked the guy and he was a great instructor so I was pretty choked. Someone said that they did see him in the locker room so he was around somewhere.
So I send all the lesson out and go tell my higher up what was going on. My higher up gets this evil grin and gives me instructions on what to tell him he has to do in order to keep his job.
So I trundle over to the locker room and find him lying on a bench grimacing with hangover pain. "Hey," I say and he says "I know, I know, I'm fired." "Nope" I say, "You get one more chance. You see last night on the bus that brought us all back from the party, several people decided to upchuck out the windows and there's vomit splattered all over the sides of the bus. Head up to maintence and clean the bus and you have a job tomorrow." LOL
So he got up and did it.
Never was late again after that. :D
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:15:15pm |
re: #680 Killgore Trout
I'm going to do some cookbook reading this weekend too. I figure I'll start somewhere near the middle or the end. Most people will probably focus on the beginning and not make it all the way through.
Not if the ROTFLMAO is the last section, like it was in the first cookbook.
That's the bestset part!
| 707 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:15:29pm |
re: #699 Killgore Trout
I was thinking about the Goldman Sachs scam: Would it be wrong for the government to seize the company and sell it off to help pay for the damage of the financial crisis?
If they do that, the economic and political fallout would be apocalyptic. the markets would nosedive, and those suspicious of the president (including me) would see an agenda of nationalization. Sorry, Killgore, but if he does that, I'll be against him completely.
| 708 |
windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:15:48pm |
re: #699 Killgore Trout
I think it would be right but probably illegal >>
| 710 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:17:21pm |
| 711 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:17:41pm |
re: #707 Dark_Falcon
I was just thinking about the morality of the situation. As windsagio points out there probably isn't a legal basis for it. Maybe there should be. It nearly fucked all of us.
| 712 |
windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:18:11pm |
| 713 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:18:12pm |
re: #704 MandyManners
Wait a minute.
Weren't his behaviors that lead to his firing what ruined your friendship?
It was a she ans she was a partner with two other women in the mortgage business. The three of us decided to fire her because she wasn't working. She came in late, left early and didn't do any work when she was there. Since I was the branch manager I get the short straw so it was me who told her to get lost. It got ugly for weeks after that.
| 714 |
SteveC Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:18:43pm |
re: #698 negativ
8:37am Saturday WIFE: WRAAAR! OMFG You just spent $94 on a camera lens without consulting me, but when I tried to get you to spend $250,000 that we didn't remotely have on a life-size Barbie Doll house you said "no"! I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU and therefore I'm going to have sex with every disgusting bizarrely overweight pig I work with, and then I'm going to sue you for divorce, and the State of Texas is going to force you at gunpoint to pay me money forever and ever and ever until you die.
8:37:10 AM Saturday NEGATIV: I take it that you are not impressed?
8:37:41 AM Saturday WIFE: Yes, ma'am. I've killed my husband with a lawnmower blade. Yes, ma'am, I'm right sure of it. I hit him two good whacks in the head with it. That second one just plum near cut his head in two... It's a lil' ol' white house on the corner of Vine Street and some other street.
| 715 |
MandyManners Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:19:23pm |
re: #700 Killgore Trout
I love being single.
Yeah, I've been celibate for 10.5 years and I'm just thrilled.
| 716 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:19:23pm |
octopus steals my video camera and swims off with it (while it's Recording)
| 717 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:19:32pm |
re: #699 Killgore Trout
Yes, it would also eliminate a whole lot of jobs.
Goldman has earned a very good reputation, and to let a couple of bad apples be the cause of the end of the company, would be a shame, IMHO. Let them pay a HEFTY fine. Maybe the packager of those loan swaps could pay back some of his bonus money.
| 718 |
SteveC Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:20:50pm |
re: #715 MandyManners
Yeah, I've been celibate for 10.5 years and I'm just thrilled.
I'm in a platonic relationship myself. "Platonic" is a Latin word that means "You ain't gettin' any."
| 719 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:20:56pm |
re: #712 windsagio
Phantom Cat!
You hsould know your musicals, theater-man.
That is not a "phantom mask" this is...
| 720 |
MandyManners Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:21:15pm |
re: #713 NJDhockeyfan
It was a she ans she was a partner with two other women in the mortgage business. The three of us decided to fire her because she wasn't working. She came in late, left early and didn't do any work when she was there. Since I was the branch manager I get the short straw so it was me who told her to get lost. It got ugly for weeks after that.
Ooh. I'm a sexist sow.
Glad to see she got gone.
| 721 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:21:59pm |
re: #717 Floral Giraffe
Yes, it would also eliminate a whole lot of jobs.
Goldman has earned a very good reputation, and to let a couple of bad apples be the cause of the end of the company, would be a shame, IMHO. Let them pay a HEFTY fine. Maybe the packager of those loan swaps could pay back some of his bonus money.
Thank you. That idea is a moderate course that would work well.
| 722 |
MandyManners Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:22:05pm |
re: #718 SteveC
I'm in a platonic relationship myself. "Platonic" is a Latin word that means "You ain't gettin' any."
Oh, my word!
ROFLMAO!
| 723 |
windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:22:07pm |
| 724 |
Digital Display Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:22:21pm |
re: #702 NJDhockeyfan
I didn't realize Glenn Beck was so popular on here. I don't think I've ever watched a complete show and it's been a while since I watched any of it.
I've been Tivo'ing Beck on and off for about 6 months...
Dude is a clown..a 32 million dollar clown....
But because it's early on a Friday night I'm going to be kind....
Hi Glenn...
| 725 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:22:52pm |
re: #724 HoosierHoops
I've been Tivo'ing Beck on and off for about 6 months...
Dude is a clown..a 32 million dollar clown...
But because it's early on a Friday night I'm going to be kind...
Hi Glenn...
I wear a fucking red rubber nose on my ass for that kind of money.
| 726 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:23:42pm |
re: #725 Walter L. Newton
I wear a fucking red rubber nose on my ass for that kind of money.
With a person attached to the nose!
| 727 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:23:58pm |
re: #700 Killgore Trout
I love being single.
As do I now. Better to have learned The Hard Way than never to have learned at all.
| 728 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:23:59pm |
re: #717 Floral Giraffe
If it was a few bad apples I could see you point but it was the CEO. The scam was evil not only for fucking over their customers but they also fucked over the entire country. It was really pretty atrocious.
| 729 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:24:31pm |
| 730 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:24:59pm |
re: #724 HoosierHoops
I've been Tivo'ing Beck on and off for about 6 months...
Dude is a clown..a 32 million dollar clown...
But because it's early on a Friday night I'm going to be kind...
Hi Glenn...
I've got plenty to watch on my DVR. Beck is not on my list of entertainment, neither is Olbermann for that matter.
| 731 |
windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:25:11pm |
re: #728 Killgore Trout
beyond that, it seems that its just the beginning. When Iwas out getting food I had the radio on, and they were talking about a ton of 'probably legal' things they were doing that are getting attention now.
| 732 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:25:15pm |
re: #727 negativ
As do I now. Better to have learned The Hard Way than never to have learned at all.
I was lucky to figure it out on my own with minimal pain and expense.
| 733 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:26:17pm |
re: #728 Killgore Trout
And, I KNOW this doesn't make it right, but, all of the other banks, mortgage companies and lenders were performing similar shenanigans. Go after as many as we can uncover, and take the money back from them.
| 735 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:27:02pm |
| 736 |
windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:27:02pm |
re: #733 Floral Giraffe
hah random thought, can the US government sue?
| 737 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:27:04pm |
Oh good grief!
Islamic charity in Calif. wiretap case wants $612K
SAN FRANCISCO — Lawyers for a now-defunct Islamic charity want more than $600,000 in damages from the federal government after a judge ruled that officials illegally wiretapped the charity's phone calls.
Last month, U.S. District Court Judge Vaughn Walker found that the Terrorist Surveillance Program authorized by President George W. Bush was illegal because it allowed investigators to eavesdrop on electronic communications without warrants. Walker concluded that the Ashland, Ore., arm of the Al-Haramain Islamic Foundation was subject to warrantless wiretaps in 2004.
The judge ordered the charity's lawyers to submit a proposed damage amount.
On Friday, Al-Haramain's lawyers argued that the organizations' two U.S. lawyers and the charity itself each should receive $204,000.
| 738 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:27:45pm |
re: #734 SteveC
OT -
Really good coverage of the volcano in Iceland!
Has the volcano been blamed on global warming or George Bush yet?
| 739 |
Digital Display Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:28:27pm |
re: #730 NJDhockeyfan
I've got plenty to watch on my DVR. Beck is not on my list of entertainment, neither is Olbermann for that matter.
I'm trying to edit everytime Beck cried for the last year on TV...
| 740 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:28:36pm |
re: #714 SteveC
8:37:10 AM Saturday NEGATIV: I take it that you are not impressed?
8:37:41 AM Saturday WIFE: Yes, ma'am. I've killed my husband with a lawnmower blade. Yes, ma'am, I'm right sure of it. I hit him two good whacks in the head with it. That second one just plum near cut his head in two... It's a lil' ol' white house on the corner of Vine Street and some other street.
Actually, I could understand it if I wuz married to Carl Childers.
| 741 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:28:40pm |
re: #729 Walter L. Newton
As long as she doesn't sneeze.
Is that a clowns nose on your ass, or are you just happy to see me!?!
| 742 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:29:02pm |
| 743 |
MandyManners Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:29:40pm |
| 744 |
Digital Display Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:29:54pm |
| 745 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:29:59pm |
re: #736 windsagio
hah random thought, can the US government sue?
Civil Fraud is what the SEC is going after Goldman for.
I don't know if there would be damages involved, or if the persons injured, would have to sue the profiteers.
Lawhawk would know.
| 746 |
SteveC Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:30:35pm |
re: #738 NJDhockeyfan
Has the volcano been blamed on global warming or George Bush yet?
There are a few trying to say that it will cause global warming - so obviously it is a Bushilter stooge, a paid Rethugulan operative!
*Cue scary music*
| 747 |
MandyManners Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:31:03pm |
re: #738 NJDhockeyfan
Has the volcano been blamed on global warming or George Bush yet?
No but, the melting of ice-bergs in the region will be declared to have nothing whatsoever to do with the volcano.
| 748 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:31:15pm |
re: #744 HoosierHoops
I know..Isn't that funnier than hell?
You will get millions of hits on YouTube with that one.
| 749 |
SteveC Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:32:11pm |
re: #739 HoosierHoops
I'm trying to edit everytime Beck cried for the last year on TV...
It will take you a month (or more!)
| 750 |
MandyManners Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:32:20pm |
| 751 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:32:48pm |
re: #746 SteveC
There are a few trying to say that it will cause global warming - so obviously it is a Bushilter stooge, a paid Rethugulan operative!
*Cue scary music*
I read something the other day saying it will cool the Earth for the next decade. I wish the scientists would make up their minds.
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MandyManners Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:33:00pm |
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:33:45pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:33:59pm |
re: #747 MandyManners
No but, the melting of ice-bergs in the region will be declared to have nothing whatsoever to do with the volcano.
Heh. So very true.
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MandyManners Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:34:48pm |
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:35:32pm |
re: #743 MandyManners
Ballsy bunch of bastards.
Ninth Circuit? Gah.
Don't worry about it too much. The Supreme Court overrules them all the time.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:35:47pm |
re: #747 MandyManners
No but, the melting of ice-bergs in the region will be declared to have nothing whatsoever to do with the volcano.
Cow farts & Jeep Cherokees melted the icebergs!
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sattv4u2 Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:36:31pm |
re: #759 NJDhockeyfan
Cow farts & Jeep Cherokees melted the icebergs!
Thats why I never allow the cow in the Jeep
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:36:47pm |
re: #759 NJDhockeyfan
Cow farts & Jeep Cherokees melted the icebergs!
They are helping to melt the icebergs, NJDHF. It's a fact and it's getting worse.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:37:23pm |
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windsagio Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:37:25pm |
Oops, time to go again. Watch out for Volcanos!
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SteveC Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:38:57pm |
re: #760 sattv4u2
Thats why I never allow the cow in the Jeep
Smart move. Who in the hell would teach a cow to drive, anyway?
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:39:08pm |
The volcano in Iceland is named Eyjafjallajokull. Can anyone pronounce that name? Have you heard a new reporter try yet?
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sattv4u2 Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:39:25pm |
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MandyManners Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:40:03pm |
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Achilles Tang Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:40:34pm |
re: #738 NJDhockeyfan
Has the volcano been blamed on global warming or
George BushObama yet?
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:40:40pm |
re: #765 NJDhockeyfan
The volcano in Iceland is named Eyjafjallajokull. Can anyone pronounce that name? Have you heard a news reporter try yet?
PIMF
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:41:40pm |
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:42:17pm |
re: #753 windsagio
You've had some pain for awhile. I'm a feeling for you, cause I was THERE. death to me.
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SteveC Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:42:23pm |
re: #770 NJDhockeyfan
Well, you got the name of the volcano right (I guess). I wasn't going to knock you for a finger slip!
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reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:43:13pm |
re: #698 negativ
I've been Meaning To Get Around To Finishing the paint job on the interior surface of my front door for about 5 months now. I have all the necessary supplies. There is nothing stopping me apart from my own laziness.
Luckily, I don't have a wife to complain about it every 5 minutes.
Back when I was married, an all-too-common weekend would go something like this:
8:30am Saturday WIFE: Hey, sometime today I'd like to rearrange the furniture in the living room, could I get you to help me?
8:30am Saturday ME: Of course, just say 'when'.
8:34am Saturday ME, to SELF: {browses the web} Hmm, KEH has a really good price on a 35mm/f1.8 Nikkor, I think I'll buy it. (Utterly disposable income spent, no harm done)
8:35am Saturday ME: OK, I'll be in there in just a minute.8:37am Saturday WIFE: WRAAAR! OMFG You just spent $94 on a camera lens without consulting me, but when I tried to get you to spend $250,000 that we didn't remotely have on a life-size Barbie Doll house you said "no"! I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU and therefore I'm going to have sex with every disgusting bizarrely overweight pig I work with, and then I'm going to sue you for divorce, and the State of Texas is going to force you at gunpoint to pay me money forever and ever and ever until you die.
You see, in my case, I am the wife.
heheh.
I'm a much better painter than the Roi.
His idea of painting:
Never buy new paint, use all old supplies.
Paint with the off white, flat paint until gone. Then finish the wall with the ivory paint with satin gloss, and paint until the paint is gone. Continue on the next wall with the greenish-white high-gloss exterior paint. And so on.
And so, I do the painting.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:43:46pm |
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MandyManners Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:44:26pm |
re: #758 Dark_Falcon
Don't worry about it too much. The Supreme Court overrules them all the time.
Ooh.
Breyer and Justice Clarence Thomas were asked about the Court's shrunken docket at the Court's annual budget hearing before the House Appropriations Committee's subcommittee on financial services and general government.
It's an oft-asked question without a clear answer, Thomas indicated, but Breyer, the former law professor, jumped in, laughing that "I don't need any evidence. I like theories." One theory he offered is that the Court's docket tends to increase a few years after passage of a major piece of federal legislation -- such as ERISA and AEDPA in years past. The words of the laws need to be interpreted, producing litigation that eventually gets to the Supreme Court. When those cases are resolved, the docket dips.
"You have passed a 2,400-page bill," Breyer told the committee members, and he guessed that in such a lengthy bill, "there are a lot of words in it." As a result, he said, "in two or three of four years," nobody will be asking justices about the shortage of cases, because litigation stemming from the bill will be filling the Court's docket.
Breyer's prediction was just one nugget from the always-interesting annual meeting between the legislative and judicial branches. The Court's $78 million budget was the topic of the hearing, but members of Congress always use it as a vehicle for getting into favorite subjects -- most notably, diversity in law clerk hiring, and camera access to the high court. The hearing was broadcast live on c-span.org.
SNIP
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sattv4u2 Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:46:16pm |
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MandyManners Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:46:57pm |
re: #759 NJDhockeyfan
Cow farts & Jeep Cherokees melted the icebergs!
Oh, that takes me the current situation at home about unacceptable words.
I got a buncha' dimes. The Kid has a buncha' words.
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MandyManners Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:47:46pm |
re: #765 NJDhockeyfan
The volcano in Iceland is named Eyjafjallajokull. Can anyone pronounce that name? Have you heard a new reporter try yet?
Bumfuckied, Iceland.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:48:14pm |
re: #777 sattv4u2
And so, I do the painting
So his plan worked!!
:)
YEP.
I knew it was his plan, all along. LOL.
It's OK with me.
He's a good man.
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MandyManners Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:48:41pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:48:52pm |
Volcano could mean cooling, acid rain
Iceland Volcano Won't Cool the Planet
Well, I'm glad that's settled.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:50:18pm |
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Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:50:30pm |
re: #765 NJDhockeyfan
The volcano in Iceland is named Eyjafjallajokull. Can anyone pronounce that name? Have you heard a new reporter try yet?
Best save I've heard in a long while...young reporter is reading the teleprompter, gets to the line, "And the volcano, which is called...(split second double take) every letter in the alphabet apparently..." and went right on with the story.
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Renaissance_Man Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:53:26pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:53:51pm |
Massa chief of staff files sexual harassment claim
Ex-Rep. Eric Massa's former chief of staff, Joe Racalto, has filed a sexual harassment claim against the New York Democrat, according to Racalto's attorney.
Camilla McKinney said the claim was filed with the appropriate office for congressional employment complaints. That is the Office of Compliance, and Racalto's is the second such complaint against Massa to be made public this week.
Racalto first contacted the office on March 23 and provided more information in April, according to McKinney.
POLITICO reported Friday that Massa used a campaign account to pay Racalto a $40,000 lump sum in early March, just as he was resigning his seat amid allegations that he sexually harassed several aides. McKinney said the money was a "deferred payment" for work Racalto did for Massa's transition from candidate to congressman after the 2008 election and for setting up his 2010 re-election effort.
Another aide to Massa filed a claim accusing Massa of a variety of forms of sexual harassment, including inappropriate physical contact and lewd commentary, according to the anonymous aide's attorneys.
McKinney declined to discuss the specifics of Racalto's allegations.
It was just wrestling, honest!
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:54:37pm |
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Jadespring Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:56:38pm |
re: #787 Escaped Hillbilly
Best save I've heard in a long while...young reporter is reading the teleprompter, gets to the line, "And the volcano, which is called...(split second double take) every letter in the alphabet apparently..." and went right on with the story.
That is great a save.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:56:50pm |
re: #795 Floral Giraffe
Her.
HER!!!
[Link: www.google.com...]
(isn't this where I left off this morning !?!?!))
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sattv4u2 Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:58:20pm |
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SteveC Fri, Apr 16, 2010 7:58:23pm |
re: #795 Floral Giraffe
Her.
As a fine, upstanding, fully credentialed (and single) male Lizard, I agree with FG!
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Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:00:12pm |
My son told me I had to watch the new Tilt-shift video called A Model Day at Disney. If you haven't seen it, it is well worth the 2 minutes of your life.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:02:02pm |
re: #799 sattv4u2
Plural of that is
All Y'All
Here's the expression that came to my mind, who knows why:
How's your mom 'n them?
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sattv4u2 Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:03:00pm |
re: #802 reine.de.tout
Here's the expression that came to my mind, who knows why:
How's your mom 'n them?
Sounds Foxworthy-ish
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:03:40pm |
re: #802 reine.de.tout
Here's the expression that came to my mind, who knows why:
How's your mom 'n them?
Look-it, look-it!
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researchok Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:04:35pm |
re: #765 NJDhockeyfan
The volcano in Iceland is named Eyjafjallajokull. Can anyone pronounce that name? Have you heard a new reporter try yet?
In 2 years some guy is going to win a boatload of bar bets knowing how to spell and pronounce that.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:04:46pm |
And some good news for the children!
Circuit Judge Chris Piazza ruled today that Act 1, an initiated act approved by voters in 2008 that bans any unmarried person living with a partner from serving as an adoptive parent, is unconstitutional, and amounts to an unwarranted invasion of privacy. Jerry Cox of the Family Council, the group who sponsored Act 1 and fought for its passage, called the decision "judicial tyranny" and says they plan to appeal the decision to the Arkansas Supreme Court.
Another right that when left to the voters will be taken away. Tyranny my ass.
Arkansas Blog
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:06:01pm |
Raymond Scott - Powerhouse
You know this music.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfDqR4fqIWE
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MandyManners Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:06:43pm |
re: #806 Stanley Sea
And some good news for the children!
Another right that when left to the voters will be taken away. Tyranny my ass.
Arkansas Blog
Yeah. Fuck democracy.
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:06:55pm |
re: #803 sattv4u2
It's from south of the Mason Dixon line.
All = what ya put in the crankcase
y'all = you all, everbody around
I'm drawing a blank on more. Mom's from Arkansas, I'll hit her up for some malapropisms.
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stevemcg Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:07:10pm |
re: #805 researchok
In 2 years some guy is going to win a boatload of bar bets knowing how to spell and pronounce that.
Who's going to know if he's right?
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sattv4u2 Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:07:31pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:08:12pm |
Freaky Physics Proves Parallel Universes Exist
Look past the details of a wonky discovery by a group of California scientists -- that a quantum state is now observable with the human eye -- and consider its implications: Time travel may be feasible. Doc Brown would be proud.The strange discovery by quantum physicists at the University of California Santa Barbara means that an object you can see in front of you may exist simultaneously in a parallel universe -- a multi-state condition that has scientists theorizing that traveling through time may be much more than just the plaything of science fiction writers.
And it's all because of a tiny bit of metal -- a "paddle" about the width of a human hair, an item that is incredibly small but still something you can see with the naked eye.
UC Santa Barbara's Andrew Cleland cooled that paddle in a refrigerator, dimmed the lights and, under a special bell jar, sucked out all the air to eliminate vibrations. He then plucked it like a tuning fork and noted that it moved and stood still at the same time.
That sounds contradictory, and it's nearly impossible to understand if your last name isn't Einstein. But it actually happened. It's a freaky fact that's at the heart of quantum mechanics.
....
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researchok Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:08:18pm |
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Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:08:46pm |
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lostlakehiker Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:08:56pm |
re: #153 LudwigVanQuixote
Only if we continue to drop the ball.
However, what carrying the ball means requires understanding the boring physics of where we are technologically and what we need to know and do.
Honestly, as far as science is concerned, unmanned probes are the way to go for the foreseeable future. The most successful - scientific missions are things like Mariner, Voyager and Hubble.
Maintaining and improving our own heavy lift capability is important - and budgeted for by Obama.
In terms of manned missions going out beyond the moon however, there are fantastic technological barriers - and human physiological barriers - that need to be overcome. I am certainly all for doing that research, but I am not clear that is a bigger priority than funding fusion research or particle accelerators.
Well, research into the theoretical side of fusion is all well and good, but there is not much reason to hope that we will get anywhere with fusion as a source of energy. Any sort of fusion reactor must cope with the tendency of the fusion processes we know about to throw off neutrons, and these mess with the device. They make steel brittle, they change elements in ways that corrupt the workings of intricate devices, etc. The more effective we get at causing fusion, even assuming we can achieve that much, the worse this problem gets.
The sun is a handy fusion reactor, at a convenient distance where we can pick up enough energy to sustain industrial civilization without getting fried. No neutron flux to worry about.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:09:03pm |
re: #802 reine.de.tout
Here's the expression that came to my mind, who knows why:
How's your mom 'n them?
Just peachy!
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sattv4u2 Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:09:18pm |
re: #815 Escaped Hillbilly
Dang, I forgot my Little Orphan Annie decoder ring!
Check the bottom of the box of Captain Crunch
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:10:06pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:11:38pm |
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MandyManners Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:11:52pm |
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:12:00pm |
re: #816 lostlakehiker
Well, research into the theoretical side of fusion is all well and good, but there is not much reason to hope that we will get anywhere with fusion as a source of energy. Any sort of fusion reactor must cope with the tendency of the fusion processes we know about to throw off neutrons, and these mess with the device. They make steel brittle, they change elements in ways that corrupt the workings of intricate devices, etc. The more effective we get at causing fusion, even assuming we can achieve that much, the worse this problem gets.
The sun is a handy fusion reactor, at a convenient distance where we can pick up enough energy to sustain industrial civilization without getting fried. No neutron flux to worry about.
I hope you're wrong. We need fusion power if we're ever to achieve long distance space travel.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:12:21pm |
Again? What's going on in Washington?
Drug smuggler arrested in bestiality case in Wash.
SEATTLE (AP) — A convicted cocaine smuggler has been arrested for running what authorities say appears to be a bestiality farm in Washington state in which visitors could engage in all sorts of twisted sex acts with animals.
Douglas Spink was arrested at his ramshackle, heavily wooded compound near the Canadian border in Whatcom County along with a 51-year-old tourist from Great Britain who is accused of having sex with three dogs.
Dozens of dogs, horses and pet mice were seized, along with what investigators described as thousands of images of bestiality and apparent child pornography. The mice were euthanized, said Whatcom County Sheriff Bill Elfo, whose office assisted federal agents in the case.
"This stuff is just truly bizarre," he said. "These were mice that had their tails cut off, they were smothered in Vaseline and they had string tied around them."
It wasn't immediately clear whether other zoophilic tourists had been to Spink's farm, but Assistant U.S. Attorney Susan Roe said Friday, "I expect there may have been other people visiting the property."
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reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:13:35pm |
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reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:14:03pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:14:05pm |
re: #824 NJDhockeyfan
"This stuff is just truly bizarre," he said. "These were mice that had their tails cut off, they were smothered in Vaseline and they had string tied around them."
They were walking the mice with little collars?
//GAK!!
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albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:14:18pm |
re: #822 MandyManners
[Video]
a good Wisconsin boy....the one and only Les Paul taught him to play the guitar...yup
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:14:48pm |
I'm confused, here. Why wouldn't you take 3 minutes & return your census form? Unless you're Michelle Bachman.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
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MandyManners Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:14:54pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:15:37pm |
re: #702 NJDhockeyfan
I didn't realize Glenn Beck was so popular on here. I don't think I've ever watched a complete show and it's been a while since I watched any of it.
I can only watch Glenn Beck for about fifty seconds at a time, because the pauses make me crazy, so I save my viewing for anything posted here that seems particularly interesting.
Sometimes I don't even watch that.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:15:44pm |
re: #829 Floral Giraffe
I'm confused, here. Why wouldn't you take 3 minutes & return your census form? Unless you're Michelle Bachman.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
Makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:15:59pm |
re: #830 MandyManners
It's all the rain on the west side of the mountains, it rots your brains./
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:16:02pm |
re: #829 Floral Giraffe
I'm confused, here. Why wouldn't you take 3 minutes & return your census form? Unless you're Michelle Bachman.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
3 minutes is for suckers. I did mine in 20 seconds.:)
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:16:30pm |
re: #834 Cannadian Club Akbar
3 minutes is for suckers. I did mine in 20 seconds.:)
Speed demon, you are!
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:16:59pm |
re: #827 Cannadian Club Akbar
"This stuff is just truly bizarre," he said. "These were mice that had their tails cut off, they were smothered in Vaseline and they had string tied around them."
They were walking the mice with little collars?
//GAK!!
Why put the mice to sleep? Clean them off and then hand them over to cats. Much more fitting end for a mouse. More painful too, but it makes the cat happy. And happy cats have happy staff.
/semi-kidding to hold down my disgust
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stevemcg Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:17:41pm |
re: #813 NJDhockeyfan
A couple of minor issues.
1. The title of your link says the experiment "proves" the parallel universe exists, but the text says "may".
2. You can't observe something moving and standing still at the same time. The definition of movement includes the passage of time. This is different from the dual nature of matter and energy.
3. A parallel universe can only be postulated. There is nothing that can prove its existence.
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MandyManners Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:18:16pm |
re: #831 SanFranciscoZionist
I can only watch Glenn Beck for about fifty seconds at a time, because the pauses make me crazy, so I save my viewing for anything posted here that seems particularly interesting.
Sometimes I don't even watch that.
I don't watch him.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:18:17pm |
re: #835 Floral Giraffe
Speed demon, you are!
And alone, I think.
Wonder what else he can do in 3 seconds.
*snicker*
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pingjockey Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:18:51pm |
re: #836 Dark_Falcon
Ummm...the mice were covered in vaseline, not smothered as in dead.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:18:59pm |
re: #839 reine.de.tout
And alone, I think.
Wonder what else he can do in 3 seconds.
*snicker*
Oh, my!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:19:07pm |
re: #839 reine.de.tout
And alone, I think.
Wonder what else he can do in 3 seconds.
*snicker*
I was gonna make that joke!!!!
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reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:19:14pm |
re: #838 MandyManners
I don't watch him.
I don't either.
It's that blackboard thingy.
Drives me nuts.
Well, and the weeping.
And the down-home pretend demeanor.
And, well, just about everything, actually.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:19:21pm |
re: #705 Jadespring
Oh funny almost getting fired story. We had a guy that was constantly late. This was at a snowboard school so usually it had something to do with partying the night before. He got all his warnings and was on a 'one more time and your gone' program. So we have one of the huge yearly staff party the night before and he's not there at lesson time. Everyone liked the guy and he was a great instructor so I was pretty choked. Someone said that they did see him in the locker room so he was around somewhere.
So I send all the lesson out and go tell my higher up what was going on. My higher up gets this evil grin and gives me instructions on what to tell him he has to do in order to keep his job.So I trundle over to the locker room and find him lying on a bench grimacing with hangover pain. "Hey," I say and he says "I know, I know, I'm fired." "Nope" I say, "You get one more chance. You see last night on the bus that brought us all back from the party, several people decided to upchuck out the windows and there's vomit splattered all over the sides of the bus. Head up to maintence and clean the bus and you have a job tomorrow." LOL
So he got up and did it.
Never was late again after that. :D
My vice principal from last year used to be the principal at a small Catholic K-8. She told us once how the fire alarm went off one day, and all the kids in their little plaid outfits marched out and stood on their numbers in the yard while the Oakland, CA FD responded to the call. The firemen combed through the building, then came back and said "Mrs. Wozniak (NHRN), I think you need to see this."
So she followed them to the storage basement of the school, where the part-time music teacher sat, surrounded by clouds of pot smoke. He blinked at her, and she said, after a long pause, "You know you're fired, right?"
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:20:01pm |
re: #840 pingjockey
Ummm...the mice were covered in vaseline, not smothered as in dead.
Was Richard Gere notified?
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:20:17pm |
re: #336 Cato the Elder
You may be sure that Caruso had a voice which would light Pavarotti up like a Roman candle. He was a phenomenon in the days when people could still tell an operatic fraud from the real deal.
By the way, I am not saying that Pavarotti or any other tenor is a fraud. All I meant was, if Caruso were alive today, with today's recording technique, he would most likely blow all the rest out of the water.
But then, I'm old school. I think the same regarding - what's her name - ah, right, Reese Witherspoon vis-à-vis Sarah Bernhardt.
I would pay real money to see the latter do Desdemona.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:20:19pm |
re: #844 SanFranciscoZionist
My vice principal from last year used to be the principal at a small Catholic K-8. She told us once how the fire alarm went off one day, and all the kids in their little plaid outfits marched out and stood on their numbers in the yard while the Oakland, CA FD responded to the call. The firemen combed through the building, then came back and said "Mrs. Wozniak (NHRN), I think you need to see this."
So she followed them to the storage basement of the school, where the part-time music teacher sat, surrounded by clouds of pot smoke. He blinked at her, and she said, after a long pause, "You know you're fired, right?"
THAT is a great story.
I love it.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:20:22pm |
re: #829 Floral Giraffe
I'm confused, here. Why wouldn't you take 3 minutes & return your census form? Unless you're Michelle Bachman.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
My parents didn't get theirs. I got one for them from a rack full of them for people who had not gotten them at my local grocery store. So I'll give it to him and that'll take care of it.
| 849 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:20:32pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:21:05pm |
re: #843 reine.de.tout
I don't either.
It's that blackboard thingy.
Drives me nuts.
Well, and the weeping.
And the down-home pretend demeanor.
And, well, just about everything, actually.
And the overused 'my eyes are bleeding' comment.
| 851 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:22:03pm |
re: #840 pingjockey
Ummm...the mice were covered in vaseline, not smothered as in dead.
They put the mice down. I was suggesting (as a joke) cleaning them off instead, then using them as cat treats. Cats love to kill and eat mice.
| 852 |
webevintage Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:22:44pm |
re: #808 MandyManners
Yeah. Fuck democracy.
The majority does not have the right to take rights away from the minority that the majority gets to enjoy.
And any day when Jerry Cox is a sad Panda is a good day for Arkansas.
| 853 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:23:21pm |
re: #851 Dark_Falcon
They put the mice down. I was suggesting (as a joke) cleaning them off instead, then using them as cat treats. Cats love to kill and eat mice.
Actually - cats like to stalk and catch and toy with mice. I think many meeces die of fright before the cat ever kills them.
| 854 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:23:21pm |
re: #846 Cato the Elder
I would pay real money to see the latter do Desdemona.
Eeeww,,,, she's over 400 years old!!
| 855 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:23:31pm |
re: #851 Dark_Falcon
They put the mice down. I was suggesting (as a joke) cleaning them off instead, then using them as cat treats. Cats love to kill and eat mice.
My brother has mice in his freezers for his snakes. Not kidding. Had the conversation today. I thought snakes only ate live mice.
| 856 |
albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:23:34pm |
my opinion of Glen Beck watchers is pretty low...just making him more money, to feed your own lurid curiosity
| 857 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:23:49pm |
re: #851 Dark_Falcon
They put the mice down. I was suggesting (as a joke) cleaning them off instead, then using them as cat treats. Cats love to kill and eat mice.
Do they still taste as good if they don't have tails and been used as rectum scrubbers?
| 858 |
Jadespring Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:23:54pm |
re: #823 Dark_Falcon
I hope you're wrong. We need fusion power if we're ever to achieve long distance space travel.
Recent breakthroughs in ion engines look promising.
I've been reading about them a bit since I heard about it on a radio show.
They were talking about Mars and suggested that with this tech you could get a craft to Mars in about 39 days and have enough fuel/power to get it back again.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
| 859 |
pingjockey Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:24:29pm |
re: #851 Dark_Falcon
Oh, okay. Goddamn perverts. Talking about cat toys, came home one day and the cat had a mouse in the front yard, took the kids ball bat, whacked the mouse. The cat gave me a look that should've burnt me to a cinder. Spoiled his fun.
| 860 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:25:12pm |
re: #855 Cannadian Club Akbar
My brother has mice in his freezers for his snakes. Not kidding. Had the conversation today. I thought snakes only ate live mice.
That's what I thought, too!
Went out this morning to grab the paper, saw a small movement in the grass, and there was a speckled king snake in the ditch, moving along, poking his head into holes in the ditch. I must have spooked him because he ended up disappearing entirely into one of the holes. He was a beautiful thing. Not that I wanted to get any closer than I was.
| 861 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:25:18pm |
re: #857 NJDhockeyfan
Do they still taste as good if they don't have tails and been used as rectum scrubbers?
That is fucking funny!! (no pun intended)
| 862 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:26:15pm |
re: #857 NJDhockeyfan
Do they still taste as good if they don't have tails and been used as rectum scrubbers?
Clean them off and they'd be fine. Cats lick their own backsides, after all.
My favorite Cat-Catches-Mouse photo sequence.
| 863 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:26:30pm |
re: #859 pingjockey
Oh, okay. Goddamn perverts. Talking about cat toys, came home one day and the cat had a mouse in the front yard, took the kids ball bat, whacked the mouse. The cat gave me a look that should've burnt me to a cinder. Spoiled his fun.
I dated a girl who had a cat that brought mice in the house and only release them in the tub. The cat would play with the mouse for hours in there.
| 864 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:26:42pm |
re: #856 albusteve
my opinion of Glen Beck watchers is pretty low...just making him more money, to feed your own lurid curiosity
Not my curiousity.
I don't watch him.
| 865 |
MandyManners Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:27:49pm |
| 866 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:27:50pm |
re: #862 Dark_Falcon
Clean them off and they'd be fine. Cats lick their own backsides, after all.
My favorite Cat-Catches-Mouse photo sequence.
Oh, ICK!
Need a graphic warning on that one.
ew.
| 867 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:27:53pm |
re: #862 Dark_Falcon
Clean them off and they'd be fine. Cats lick their own backsides, after all.
"The cat said these funny looking mice taste like shit."
| 868 |
SteveMcG Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:28:39pm |
re: #822 MandyManners
[Video]
That's what Adam said to Eve: "Stand back baby. I don't know how big this thing's gonna get."
| 869 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:29:26pm |
| 870 |
pingjockey Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:29:27pm |
re: #863 NJDhockeyfan
Smart cat. I came home from working in the orchard when I was a teenager and both our cats went crazy trying to rub against me. Couldn't figure it out. Dad told me it was the catnip on my pants. The stuff grows wild in the tree rows.
| 871 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:30:39pm |
| 872 |
Achilles Tang Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:31:08pm |
re: #856 albusteve
my opinion of Glen Beck watchers is pretty low...just making him more money, to feed your own lurid curiosity
How do you know if you never watch? Do you automatically believe everything you read on LGF?
| 873 |
Renaissance_Man Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:31:34pm |
re: #855 Cannadian Club Akbar
My brother has mice in his freezers for his snakes. Not kidding. Had the conversation today. I thought snakes only ate live mice.
No, snakes will take pre-killed. They prefer live food, but captive ones can become accustomed to pre-killed.
I fed snakes at the zoo for a summer job once as a kid. The mice were live there - had to grab them by the tails and whack them good and hard against the wall to stun them before tossing them in, so they wouldn't hurt the snakes. I wasn't the sort of teenager that thought strapping firecrackers to frogs was fun (I know, I'm a pansy), so that took some getting used to.
| 874 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:31:42pm |
re: #872 Naso Tang
How do you know if you never watch? Do you automatically believe everything you read on LGF?
You don't believe everything you read here?
//
| 875 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:32:32pm |
Iranian Spy for CIA: ‘Weak West’ Will Cause War with Iran
The American-led "engagement” policies towards Iran is going to result in the very war it wants to prevent, according to an Iranian CIA spy. He says the only way to prevent a possible nuclear war with Iran is to attack the country now.
In the meantime, Iran announced Sunday it has started mass-producing a new medium-range anti-aircraft missile that "can destroy modern planes in low and medium altitudes.”
Writing under the pseudonym Raza Kahlil, his book “A Time to Betray” reveals that he began to spy on Iran for the CIA after he was disillusioned by the 1979 revolution and fled the Islamic Republic.
Interviewed by Reza Aslan of the Daily Beast web site, “Kahlil” predicted that if Iran obtains a nuclear weapon, which it apparently will do, “The Iranian people are going to pay a very, very heavy price. And you could see major destruction in Iran."
| 876 |
albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:32:35pm |
re: #872 Naso Tang
How do you know if you never watch? Do you automatically believe everything you read on LGF?
I've seen a few quick youtubes, and a blurb at an airport....you don't have much of a point
| 877 |
pingjockey Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:32:58pm |
Hah. Frakkin' dumbass scientists. You are on a spaceship, a billion miles from home and you want a democracy?! Umm...NO! A warship is a benevolent dictatorship, not a debating society. (Watching Stargate Universe). When the hell is Dr. Who supposed to be back on?
| 878 |
SteveMcG Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:33:07pm |
re: #873 Renaissance_Man
No, snakes will take pre-killed. They prefer live food, but captive ones can become accustomed to pre-killed.
I fed snakes at the zoo for a summer job once as a kid. The mice were live there - had to grab them by the tails and whack them good and hard against the wall to stun them before tossing them in, so they wouldn't hurt the snakes. I wasn't the sort of teenager that thought strapping firecrackers to frogs was fun (I know, I'm a pansy), so that took some getting used to.
So they wouldn't hurt the snakes?
| 879 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:33:13pm |
re: #873 Renaissance_Man
My brother went with dead mice when his snake was attacked my a mouse. Mouse left some teeth in the narrow part behind the head.
| 880 |
Achilles Tang Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:34:04pm |
re: #874 Floral Giraffe
You don't believe everything you read here?
//
I don't believe everyone I read here.
| 881 |
Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:34:24pm |
re: #848 Dark_Falcon
My parents didn't get theirs. I got one for them from a rack full of them for people who had not gotten them at my local grocery store. So I'll give it to him and that'll take care of it.
I'e never seen them in the grocery store. Nor have I have been asked to fill one out. I feel cheated. }-(
| 882 |
Achilles Tang Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:35:04pm |
re: #876 albusteve
I've seen a few quick youtubes, and a blurb at an airport...you don't have much of a point
I've seen those of many presidents too. What is your point?
| 883 |
Jadespring Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:35:15pm |
re: #877 pingjockey
Hah. Frakkin' dumbass scientists. You are on a spaceship, a billion miles from home and you want a democracy?! Umm...NO! A warship is a benevolent dictatorship, not a debating society. (Watching Stargate Universe). When the hell is Dr. Who supposed to be back on?
I'm about to watch it. I thought the same thing about the scientists during last weeks episode.
| 884 |
Renaissance_Man Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:35:45pm |
re: #878 SteveMcG
So they wouldn't hurt the snakes?
A more common cause of snake injuries in captivity than you think, being bitten by a mouse/rat. Especially in constrictors.
| 886 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:36:40pm |
re: #881 Escaped Hillbilly
I'e never seen them in the grocery store. Nor have I have been asked to fill one out. I feel cheated. }-(
Mine has a substantial Polish clientele (not unusual for Cook County), so the Census Bureau has placed forms there.
| 887 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:36:43pm |
New York University (New York City, NY) scientists have developed a DNA nanotechnology to create self-replicating materials that can be used to manufacture microelectronic devices. Success in creating a self-replicating system with polystyrene beads can be translated to a wide range of materials, such as metals and ceramics, semiconductors and plastics. Such composite, microscopically-designed, materials should find wide application in sensors, solar cells, batteries and fuel cell components, as well as new materials for personal products and pharmaceuticals.
Professor of Physics Paul Michael Chaikin, Professor of Physics and Director of the Center for Soft Matter Research David Pine, Professor of Chemistry Nadrian C. Seeman and Professor of Physics David G Grier have created patent pending micron and sub-micron scale particles designed to recognize and selectively interact with each other by exploiting the recognition and specificity enabled by DNA-sequence-encoded coatings. Such materials possess sufficient information coded in their chemical and physical interactions to self assemble and self replicate.
According to U.S. Patent Application 20100090180, the invention further provides methods of using such materials to create self replicating and organizing materials. Replicated copies are permanently linked and then thermally detached, freeing them to act as templates for further growth. This new class of condensed matter systems provide the means to design and control the structure and function of materials and machines from the microscopic to life-size.
Science!
| 888 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:37:38pm |
re: #881 Escaped Hillbilly
I'e never seen them in the grocery store. Nor have I have been asked to fill one out. I feel cheated. }-(
There is a person manning a Census table at my library.
| 889 |
albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:37:59pm |
re: #882 Naso Tang
I've seen those of many presidents too. What is your point?
I already made my point...if you don't like it just spit it out
| 890 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:38:07pm |
| 891 |
pingjockey Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:39:27pm |
re: #883 Jadespring
I think this is last weeks episode, it's 8:30 here on the left coast and the regular time is 9pm PDT, so yeah, this is last weeks episode. What cracks me up, is no seat belts. I was on cruisers, destroyers, and frigates and all the chairs in the Combat information Center had seatbelts for rough seas.
So here we are, bombing around space, and no seat belts!
| 892 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:39:33pm |
| 893 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:39:56pm |
re: #875 NJDhockeyfan
Iran often announces new weapons, but all they ever produce is a prototype. Iran has serious problems with ironing out quality control and establishing production (exacerbated by the embargo of weapons tech from the West). Thus they normally cannot bring their new weapons into production. Iran's new DD is an exception.
| 894 |
pingjockey Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:40:39pm |
re: #888 Stanley Sea
There was one table for census forms in our local mall.
| 895 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:40:53pm |
re: #890 NJDhockeyfan
WTF??
That's uncalled for. Way uncool and insulting.
Quite Concur. Cato has fixated on Mandy with ugly results.
| 896 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:40:56pm |
re: #885 Cato the Elder
You probably could have done that without the invectives
| 897 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:42:23pm |
re: #892 Stanley Sea
Shocked you are!
See 896
disagree with someones politics or point of view, but "bitch" and the sex reference, not so much
And for you to upding it speaks volumes
| 898 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:42:36pm |
re: #893 Dark_Falcon
Iran often announces new weapons, but all they ever produce is a prototype. Iran has serious problems with ironing out quality control and establishing production (exacerbated by the embargo of weapons tech from the West). Thus they normally cannot bring their new weapons into production. Iran's new DD is an exception.
They may have smuggled some weapons from the Norks. Remember the reports of Iranian officials in North Korea when they were testing their nukes? You may be right but always err on the side of caution.
| 899 |
Achilles Tang Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:42:38pm |
re: #889 albusteve
I already made my point...if you don't like it just spit it out
It's a trivial issue. If you need explanation, which I will give for those who might think you are not as smart as you are; it is simply that you you need to make your judgments on first hand evidence, not second or third.
When you take pride in your position based on being bored and uninformed, you make yourself sound bored and uninformed.
| 900 |
Jadespring Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:42:42pm |
re: #891 pingjockey
I think this is last weeks episode, it's 8:30 here on the left coast and the regular time is 9pm PDT, so yeah, this is last weeks episode. What cracks me up, is no seat belts. I was on cruisers, destroyers, and frigates and all the chairs in the Combat information Center had seatbelts for rough seas.
So here we are, bombing around space, and no seat belts!
They're kept in place by the hyper nano ternon flux factor force field that the chairs put out.
| 901 |
pingjockey Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:42:43pm |
re: #885 Cato the Elder
Ouch! Damn it, as sharp as you are, that could've come out better.
| 902 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:42:45pm |
re: #894 pingjockey
There was one table for census forms in our local mall.
There were a few lizards looking into census work. Wonder how they are doing? I'm at the end of a horrendous hill, so I gave them a break and sent mine in promptly.
| 903 |
prairiefire Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:42:48pm |
re: #728 Killgore Trout
If it was a few bad apples I could see you point but it was the CEO. The scam was evil not only for fucking over their customers but they also fucked over the entire country. It was really pretty atrocious.
I think that the Goldman Sachs' saga is going to be the highlight of my summer time news. It is huge.
| 904 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:42:58pm |
re: #890 NJDhockeyfan
WTF??
That's uncalled for. Way uncool and insulting.
Mandy is a steath-bagger. I've been saying so for years.
Make of it what you will. You're her flack.
| 905 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:43:19pm |
re: #897 sattv4u2
See 896
disagree with someones politics or point of view, but "bitch" and the sex reference, not so much
And for you to upding it speaks volumes
yeah yeah, I've seen it all. Here. selective offense.
| 906 |
lostlakehiker Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:44:11pm |
re: #819 Dark_Falcon
Great Scott!
There's another freaky physics observation, and one that isn't just a matter of hyping known quantum physics. Astronomers have observed some "streaming" of galaxies toward some point where no mass is evident to attract it. No gravitational lensing from the focus sector, no batch of galaxies there, nada.
So we're left with gravity from nowhere. How's that for freaky?
| 907 |
pingjockey Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:44:49pm |
re: #900 Jadespring
Heh! The thing is at whatever freaking velocity they're batting along at, if the artificial gravity fails, all you're gonna find inside that ship is strawberry jam everywhere.
| 908 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:45:05pm |
re: #898 NJDhockeyfan
They may have smuggled some weapons from the Norks. Remember the reports of Iranian officials in North Korea when they were testing their nukes? You may be right but always err on the side of caution.
They can smuggle stuff from North Korea, but normally can't build it themselves. They have a hard time getting the kind of educated workforce needed to run a missile factory. It demands skilled labor, and most such people in Iran don't want to do that kind of work.
| 909 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:45:33pm |
re: #905 Stanley Sea
yeah yeah, I've seen it all. Here. selective offense.
So nothing is beyond the pale!
wow ,,, just ,, wow !
| 910 |
Achilles Tang Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:45:58pm |
re: #904 Cato the Elder
Mandy is a steath-bagger. I've been saying so for years.
Then learn how to say so in a civil manner.
| 911 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:46:11pm |
re: #904 Cato the Elder
Mandy is a steath-bagger. I've been saying so for years.
Make of it what you will. You're her flack.
You have serious issues. Being obsessed with someone on a blog is not normal.
Oh, I got your flack right here.
| 912 |
pingjockey Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:46:15pm |
re: #902 Stanley Sea
My dad thanks you! He was out doin census work. I think mom made him do it to get him out of the house and her hair for a while!
| 913 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:46:47pm |
re: #912 pingjockey
My dad thanks you! He was out doin census work. I think mom made him do it to get him out of the house and her hair for a while!
Is he enjoying it?
| 914 |
Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:46:53pm |
re: #886 Dark_Falcon
Mine has a substantial Polish clientele (not unusual for Cook County), so the Census Bureau has placed forms there.
Wouldn't it be a good idea to put them in more places? I mean, if we really want a clear picture of all the folk? I have never gotten one. No one has ever called my house. I didn't even know they could do that, have forms stocked that way. They always put out tax forms at the library on post and in the post offices in most places. Why not do that with census forms? Except I always thought that would lead to problems of multiple replies from people who wanted to "stack the deck". But then you have them there so...
| 915 |
Jadespring Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:46:58pm |
re: #899 Naso Tang
It's a trivial issue. If you need explanation, which I will give for those who might think you are not as smart as you are; it is simply that you you need to make your judgments on first hand evidence, not second or third.
When you take pride in your position based on being bored and uninformed, you make yourself sound bored and uninformed.
I'm fairly certain that he knows exactly what you were implying. He just wanted you to say it right out instead of attempting to play silly read between the lines games. It's not like what you were thinking wasn't obvious to anyone with half a clue.
| 916 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:47:07pm |
re: #909 sattv4u2
So nothing is beyond the pale!
wow ,,, just ,, wow !
Why would I refrain from saying to a wingnut Lizard what I would say to Sarah Palin's sagging face?
Why?
| 917 |
albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:47:26pm |
re: #899 Naso Tang
It's a trivial issue. If you need explanation, which I will give for those who might think you are not as smart as you are; it is simply that you you need to make your judgments on first hand evidence, not second or third.
When you take pride in your position based on being bored and uninformed, you make yourself sound bored and uninformed.
haha!...good one...that's a stretch, you are getting too deep for no purpose, telling me your dynamics for making judgment of Beck...you sound bored yourself
| 918 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:48:17pm |
re: #909 sattv4u2
So nothing is beyond the pale!
wow ,,, just ,, wow !
Oh poor us. Guy on here today talks about his girlfriend in menses and no one freaked out. TMI, that's it.
It's selective. Everyone has their limit. Don't get on me for mine.
| 919 |
pingjockey Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:48:22pm |
re: #913 Floral Giraffe
Except for the other night. I didn't like it either. Dad is 74 and they were going down by the river to look for and count homeless. I worried about him.
| 920 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:49:03pm |
re: #916 Cato the Elder
Why would I refrain from saying to a wingnut Lizard what I would say to Sarah Palin's sagging face?
Why?
The wordsmith you are, or the one you claim being, you could easily have gotten the point across sans the 'bitch" and "stick" comments
| 921 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:49:08pm |
re: #916 Cato the Elder
Why would I refrain from saying to a wingnut Lizard what I would say to Sarah Palin's sagging face?
Why?
So just because you disagree with someone's political ideas you think it's OK to hurl nasty insults?
| 922 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:49:20pm |
re: #912 pingjockey
My dad thanks you! He was out doin census work. I think mom made him do it to get him out of the house and her hair for a while!
Yeah! Stories! (a day in the life of the census taker - add creepy music)
| 923 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:49:33pm |
re: #919 pingjockey
Except for the other night. I didn't like it either. Dad is 74 and they were going down by the river to look for and count homeless. I worried about him.
I hope he was OK?
Do the homeless have to fill out the form too?
74 can be a fragile age!
| 924 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:50:55pm |
re: #914 Escaped Hillbilly
Wouldn't it be a good idea to put them in more places? I mean, if we really want a clear picture of all the folk? I have never gotten one. No one has ever called my house. I didn't even know they could do that, have forms stocked that way. They always put out tax forms at the library on post and in the post offices in most places. Why not do that with census forms? Except I always thought that would lead to problems of multiple replies from people who wanted to "stack the deck". But then you have them there so...
Yes, I think that would be a good idea.
| 925 |
pingjockey Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:51:23pm |
re: #923 Floral Giraffe
He's fine. Apperently they get the homeless folks to fill out what they can. As far as the old mans health. He's still a qualified EMT and goes on ambulance calls! Drives my mom nuts!
| 926 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:51:26pm |
Young Liberal in Barack Obama 'monkey' Twitter scandal to be expelled
A YOUNG Liberals' member who called Barack Obama a "monkey" on Twitter during the US President's interview on the ABC will be expelled, says the Queensland Liberal National Party (LNP).The tweets, from an account belonging to Nick Sowden, a medical student at the University of Queensland, began just after 7.30pm AEST last night, during ABC TV's 7.30 Report with Kerry O'Brien.
"I'm not sure why they paid kerry to fly to america (sic), if they wanted an interview with a monkey surely a ferry to Taronga would have sufficed," one tweet said, referring to Taronga Zoo on Sydney Harbour.
"If I wanted to see a monkey on TV I'd watch Wildlife Rescue," said another.
Mr Sowden this morning said his comments were taken out of context. He said it was a joke between friends.
| 927 |
The Shadow Do Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:51:48pm |
re: #885 Cato the Elder
No.
Fuck your idea of democracy, you homophobic bitch.
You stand unmasked at last, in all your wingnut nakedness, and I'm sorry, but I wouldn't fuck you with the shitty end of the stick.
It would turn the stick's stomach.
Your are disgusting.
| 928 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:52:31pm |
re: #925 pingjockey
He's fine. Apperently they get the homeless folks to fill out what they can. As far as the old mans health. He's still a qualified EMT and goes on ambulance calls! Drives my mom nuts!
Your Dad is quite cool. Tell him thanks!
| 930 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:53:28pm |
re: #926 NJDhockeyfan
Young Liberal in Barack Obama 'monkey' Twitter scandal to be expelled
I agree with the expulsion. Calling a black man a monkey is overt racism in any context.
| 931 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:53:31pm |
re: #925 pingjockey
He's fine. Apperently they get the homeless folks to fill out what they can. As far as the old mans health. He's still a qualified EMT and goes on ambulance calls! Drives my mom nuts!
That's great!
Your Mom will find a way to channel his energy, out of the house!
Give her a rest!
| 932 |
pingjockey Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:53:45pm |
re: #928 Stanley Sea
I will. The town I'm from only has a population of maybe 1000, so the fire and ambulance is all volunteer.
| 933 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:54:03pm |
re: #920 sattv4u2
The wordsmith you are, or the one you claim being, you could easily have gotten the point across sans the 'bitch" and "stick" comments
I use the rhetorical means at hand. No apologies.
re: #921 NJDhockeyfan
So just because you disagree with someone's political ideas you think it's OK to hurl nasty insults?
Yes. See Tea Party rallies. What's sauce for the gander is sauce for the goose. And her nasty little gosling spawn like you.
| 934 |
Achilles Tang Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:54:05pm |
re: #915 Jadespring
I'm fairly certain that he knows exactly what you were implying. He just wanted you to say it right out instead of attempting to play silly read between the lines games. It's not like what you were thinking wasn't obvious to anyone with half a clue.
I know that. Some things need to be expressed without innuendo.
| 935 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:54:25pm |
re: #926 NJDhockeyfan
Young Liberal in Barack Obama 'monkey' Twitter scandal to be expelled
Queensland AUSTRALIA? reeachhing for a smear. (running on a dream)
| 936 |
Renaissance_Man Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:54:27pm |
re: #926 NJDhockeyfan
Young Liberal in Barack Obama 'monkey' Twitter scandal to be expelled
Note that in Australia, the 'Liberal' Party is the equivalent of the conservative party politically. Young Liberals are effectively Young Republicans.
| 937 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:54:39pm |
re: #930 Dark_Falcon
I agree with the expulsion. Calling a black man a monkey is overt racism in any context.
You just don't understand liberal Queensland humor.
////
| 938 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:55:17pm |
re: #930 Dark_Falcon
I agree with the expulsion. Calling a black man a monkey is overt racism in any context.
Yeah, the Australians have a strange history of racism. It comes close to our own history.
| 939 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:55:18pm |
re: #808 MandyManners
Yeah. Fuck democracy.
When "democracy" is patently bigoted and ridiculous and hurts children? yes. fuck it. That's what the courts are for. To prevent klansmen and bigots and dominionist psychos and snake-handling scolds and mumbo-jumbo spouting preachers from discriminating, and then hiding their white sheets and hoods behind the red ahite and blue. Any arkansas resident that approves of this nonsense should be ashamed of themselves.
| 940 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:55:22pm |
re: #930 Dark_Falcon
I agree with the expulsion. Calling a black man a monkey is overt racism in any context.
We would never hear of this smear (and many others) unless someone looked it up and posted it for us.
| 941 |
Ojoe Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:55:40pm |
| 942 |
Achilles Tang Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:55:58pm |
re: #916 Cato the Elder
Why would I refrain from saying to a wingnut Lizard what I would say to Sarah Palin's sagging face?
Why?
Because we try here not to sound like Sara Palin.
| 943 |
albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:57:03pm |
common sense breaks out in Arizona...
[Link: azstarnet.com...]
Republican Gov. Jan Brewer on Friday signed into law a bill making Arizona the third state allowing people without a permit to carry a concealed weapon.
| 944 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:57:20pm |
Are we all drunkenly swing at each other at random or is there a pattern here? I wanna know before I jump into the mosh pit tonight.
| 945 |
Renaissance_Man Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:57:25pm |
re: #937 NJDhockeyfan
You just don't understand liberal Queensland humor.
Again, note that a Liberal in Australia is not the same as a liberal here. Liberal refers to the party - which is, as it happens, conservative.
I'm not making any statement or laying blame, just clearing up a frequent point of confusion.
| 946 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:57:31pm |
re: #938 Killgore Trout
It's actually, kind of worse, IMO.
| 947 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:57:34pm |
re: #933 Cato the Elder
I use the rhetorical means at hand. No apologies.
Your 885 was well beyond "rhetorical"
| 948 |
Achilles Tang Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:58:11pm |
re: #944 Killgore Trout
Are we all drunkenly swing at each other at random or is there a pattern here? I wanna know before I jump into the mosh pit tonight.
Damn good question.
| 949 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:58:15pm |
re: #944 Killgore Trout
Are we all drunkenly swing at each other at random or is there a pattern here? I wanna know before I jump into the mosh pit tonight.
Yes.
*whack*
Hi Killgore!
| 950 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:58:33pm |
re: #944 Killgore Trout
Are we all drunkenly swing at each other at random or is there a pattern here? I wanna know before I jump into the mosh pit tonight.
I'm still sober. No beer for me for another hour! :( :(
| 951 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:58:49pm |
re: #944 Killgore Trout
Are we all drunkenly swing at each other at random or is there a pattern here? I wanna know before I jump into the mosh pit tonight.
Just put on a "DRI" CD. Mosh away.:)
| 952 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:59:14pm |
re: #942 Naso Tang
Because we try here not to sound like Sara Palin.
Show me where I sound like Sarah. I make a point of not spewing word-salad "we're all real Amerkins" bullshit talking points.
And I've had it with Mandy's leg-humping wingnuttery.
| 953 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:59:37pm |
| 954 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:59:41pm |
Sigh.
Stanley Sea, who I will more often than not disagree with, made a post about a judge ruling a law unconstitutional.
Mandy posts back to Stanley Sea:
Yeah. Fuck Democracy!
Our judicial system is as much a part of our democracy as voting.
Mandy's response, IMO, was a harsh and direct slap to Stanley Sea.
No one says a word.
Cato posts back to Mandy, a harsh and nasty comment, a direct slap to Mandy. NOW everybody's upset.
I'm tired of all of it right now, and so I'll say goodnight to all.
| 955 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:59:46pm |
re: #940 Stanley Sea
We would never hear of this smear (and many others) unless someone looked it up and posted it for us.
Well, NJDHF is right to post it. It's a interesting little story, that shows that the racism problems we have are somewhat universal.
| 956 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:59:47pm |
re: #947 sattv4u2
I use the rhetorical means at hand. No apologies.
Your 885 was well beyond "rhetorical"
Thank you.
| 957 |
albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 8:59:55pm |
re: #944 Killgore Trout
Are we all drunkenly swing at each other at random or is there a pattern here? I wanna know before I jump into the mosh pit tonight.
I think there is a lot of blog burnout here...to many hours of repetitious blathering
| 958 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:00:05pm |
re: #944 Killgore Trout
Are we all drunkenly swing at each other at random or is there a pattern here? I wanna know before I jump into the mosh pit tonight.
Everything was fine until Cato decided to throw a disgusting insult toward Mandy. It's been deteriorating since then.
| 959 |
pingjockey Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:00:14pm |
re: #950 WindUpBird
Well that sucks. The last beer I had was 4th of july last year. Haven't had one since cause of some health issues. :(
| 961 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:00:58pm |
re: #952 Cato the Elder
Show me where I sound like Sarah. I make a point of not spewing word-salad "we're all real Amerkins" bullshit talking points.
And I've had it with Mandy's leg-humping wingnuttery.
Then don't read nor respond to her
OR ,, if you continue too, have the testicular fortitude to ACTUALLY say those things to her face!
| 963 |
Jadespring Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:01:03pm |
re: #930 Dark_Falcon
I agree with the expulsion. Calling a black man a monkey is overt racism in any context.
I like the defense. "It was just a joke between friends!"
An 'in' joke that he twittered, obviously very publicaly for it to be seen by the folks expelling him. Not understanding 'public' and 'private' communications is a political liability itself.
| 964 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:01:09pm |
re: #954 reine.de.tout
And I thank you, agree with me or not. You are pretty damn cool.
| 965 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:01:11pm |
re: #954 reine.de.tout
Sigh.
Stanley Sea, who I will more often than not disagree with, made a post about a judge ruling a law unconstitutional.
Mandy posts back to Stanley Sea:
Yeah. Fuck Democracy!Our judicial system is as much a part of our democracy as voting.
Mandy's response, IMO, was a harsh and direct slap to Stanley Sea.
No one says a word.
Cato posts back to Mandy, a harsh and nasty comment, a direct slap to Mandy. NOW everybody's upset.
I'm tired of all of it right now, and so I'll say goodnight to all.
Good night, Reine. You make a good point.
| 966 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:02:02pm |
re: #961 sattv4u2
Then don't read nor respond to her
OR ,, if you continue too, have the testicular fortitude to ACTUALLY say those things to her face!
I just did, didn't I?
| 967 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:02:26pm |
re: #963 Jadespring
I like the defense. "It was just a joke between friends!"
An 'in' joke that he twittered, obviously very publicaly for it to be seen by the folks expelling him. Not understanding 'public' and 'private' communications is a political liability itself.
Agreed. If you are that dim, you don't belong in a political party to being with. You probably shouldn't even be voting.
| 968 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:02:56pm |
re: #966 Cato the Elder
I just did, didn't I?
Unless you are standing in the same room as her, then no.
| 970 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:03:19pm |
| 971 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:03:57pm |
More examples of "democracy" that deserved to get fucked.
"Democracy" is fucked again! Too bad, so sad!
Where you find people that will deny gay people basic rights, the people who want to deny black people rights, who think the south should have won the war? They're not far behind.
| 972 |
pingjockey Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:04:08pm |
With the proliferation of electronic comm devices, unless you are face to face with someone, most comms aren't private!
| 973 |
Achilles Tang Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:04:57pm |
re: #160 Rightwingconspirator
H3 was already found. Its attributes are known. Why pretend we have to find out again what we already have found? Callout to Ludwig or Naso-Can you help me here on Helium3 as a future fuel?
Late scan. As I understand Helium 3 would be great; after we figure out how to control fusion (not fission) commercially, which is still pie in the sky.
Find a good psychic and let me know if it works, if you live longer, a lot, than me.
| 974 |
albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:05:06pm |
I think every state in the Union should adapt C/C gun laws like AZ, Alasaka, and Vermont....don't you?
so who's your favorite Beatle?
| 975 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:05:21pm |
re: #938 Killgore Trout
Wonderful series of books, lead character is Napoleon Bonaparte, and Aboriginal policeman in Australia. Who uses his Aboriginal skills to solve mysteries. Arthur Upfield is the author. Wonderful stories. The "Mystery at Swordfish Creek" is my favorite.
[Link: www.amazon.com...]
| 976 |
Renaissance_Man Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:05:29pm |
re: #955 Dark_Falcon
Well, NJDHF is right to post it. It's a interesting little story, that shows that the racism problems we have are somewhat universal.
Racism in Western countries is mild. It really is. No matter how bad it is in any Southern state, on any Tea Partier's sign, or in some Queensland med student's room, it is very mild by comparison to what racism is like in a lot of countries.
I'm not even talking about egregious examples like apartheid, or Zimbabwe. Racism in many parts of SE Asia and Asia in general is like it must have been prior to the civil rights movement - a general entrenched idea that manifests in certain races occupying certain niches in society, and intermarriage or otherwise breaking out of those moulds is taboo.
Western countries are very enlightened about their minorities by comparison. Even nutjob Teabaggers.
| 977 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:05:38pm |
re: #954 reine.de.tout
Sigh.
Stanley Sea, who I will more often than not disagree with, made a post about a judge ruling a law unconstitutional.
Mandy posts back to Stanley Sea:
Yeah. Fuck Democracy!Our judicial system is as much a part of our democracy as voting.
Mandy's response, IMO, was a harsh and direct slap to Stanley Sea.
No one says a word.
Cato posts back to Mandy, a harsh and nasty comment, a direct slap to Mandy. NOW everybody's upset.
I'm tired of all of it right now, and so I'll say goodnight to all.
Sorry Rein
Mandys sarcastic (yet , as you point out incorrect) "Fuck Democracy" comment did NOT deserve Catos 885
| 978 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:05:38pm |
re: #942 Naso Tang
Because we try here not to sound like Sara Palin.
haha being outraged at someone who considers discrimination to be "democracy" and protests when a court shoots down an obviously unconstitutional bigoted law?
That ain't Sarah Palin territory.
| 979 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:06:05pm |
re: #968 NJDhockeyfan
Unless you are standing in the same room as her, then no.
I would have choicer words if that were the case.
| 980 |
bagua Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:06:29pm |
| 981 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:06:40pm |
| 982 |
Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:06:48pm |
re: #939 WindUpBird
Can I say, not "fuck Democracy" but fuck the "tyranny of the majority"? Sometimes people get into groupthink and make bad decisions. That is what the courts and representative govt is for. If you don't like their decisions, you can vote them out. But this adds a layer of civility. I must say LGF could use a layer of civility right now.
| 983 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:07:05pm |
re: #974 albusteve
I think every state in the Union should adapt C/C gun laws like AZ, Alasaka, and Vermont...don't you?
so who's your favorite Beatle?
JOHN
| 984 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:07:44pm |
re: #954 reine.de.tout
Sigh.
Stanley Sea, who I will more often than not disagree with, made a post about a judge ruling a law unconstitutional.
Mandy posts back to Stanley Sea:
Yeah. Fuck Democracy!Our judicial system is as much a part of our democracy as voting.
Mandy's response, IMO, was a harsh and direct slap to Stanley Sea.
No one says a word.
Cato posts back to Mandy, a harsh and nasty comment, a direct slap to Mandy. NOW everybody's upset.
I'm tired of all of it right now, and so I'll say goodnight to all.
Quoted for truth, yo.
And I'll repeat in case anyone doesn't get it:
Our judicial system is as much a part of our democracy as voting.
Our judicial system is as much a part of our democracy as voting.
Our judicial system is as much a part of our democracy as voting.
Our judicial system is as much a part of our democracy as voting.
Our judicial system is as much a part of our democracy as voting.
Our judicial system is as much a part of our democracy as voting.
| 985 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:07:51pm |
re: #979 Cato the Elder
I would have choicer words if that were the case.
Suggestion
Either stop drinking or stop posting for the night
| 986 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:07:53pm |
ROPMA
Two-day-old girl killed in 'honour killing'
Turkish police on Friday detained an unmarried mother and six other people near Istanbul for their suspected role in the so-called "honour killing" of a 2-day-old baby girl, state news agency Anatolian said.
The baby was suffocated by her grandmother after the family learned the 25-year-old mother became pregnant out of wedlock, Anatolian said.
"My family decided to kill my baby," the mother told the police, according to Anatolian. "My 55-year-old mother choked the baby with a cloth. Then, my brothers buried the baby in a hole in the garden and covered the hole with cement."
Police found the body after receiving an anonymous phone call.
Among those detained were also a doctor and the doctor's secretary, They allegedly had agreed not to register the baby's birth in return for an undisclosed amount of money.
The baby's father is doing his military service and was not involved in the incident.
| 987 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:08:26pm |
re: #982 Escaped Hillbilly
Can I say, not "fuck Democracy" but fuck the "tyranny of the majority"? Sometimes people get into groupthink and make bad decisions. That is what the courts and representative govt is for. If you don't like their decisions, you can vote them out. But this adds a layer of civility. I must say LGF could use a layer of civility right now.
Quite Concur.
| 988 |
bagua Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:08:35pm |
re: #974 albusteve
I think every state in the Union should adapt C/C gun laws like AZ, Alasaka, and Vermont...don't you?
so who's your favorite Beatle?
Ringo of course, and agree, nationwide.
| 989 |
pingjockey Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:08:42pm |
re: #982 Escaped Hillbilly
Ah, this isn't nowhere as bad as I've seen it. Some of the evolution/creation threads got very wild.
| 990 |
Achilles Tang Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:08:53pm |
re: #917 albusteve
haha!...good one...that's a stretch, you are getting too deep for no purpose, telling me your dynamics for making judgment of Beck...you sound bored yourself
No, frustrated.
| 991 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:08:57pm |
re: #982 Escaped Hillbilly
Can I say, not "fuck Democracy" but fuck the "tyranny of the majority"? Sometimes people get into groupthink and make bad decisions. That is what the courts and representative govt is for. If you don't like their decisions, you can vote them out. But this adds a layer of civility. I must say LGF could use a layer of civility right now.
Welcome to the BORG. Turn just this way, to join the collective.
Aaaah, that's right...
//
| 992 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:08:58pm |
| 993 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:09:35pm |
re: #974 albusteve
I think every state in the Union should adapt C/C gun laws like AZ, Alasaka, and Vermont...don't you?
so who's your favorite Beatle?
The dead one?
| 994 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:09:37pm |
re: #982 Escaped Hillbilly
Can I say, not "fuck Democracy" but fuck the "tyranny of the majority"? Sometimes people get into groupthink and make bad decisions. That is what the courts and representative govt is for. If you don't like their decisions, you can vote them out. But this adds a layer of civility. I must say LGF could use a layer of civility right now.
The "fuck democracy" thing was a direct response to Mandy. Obviously I'm a fan of democracy. And also a fan of the court systems that prevent unconstitutional and bigoted laws to stand! Checks and balances, they do a body good :D
| 995 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:09:43pm |
re: #979 Cato the Elder
I would have choicer words if that were the case.
You really are a foul disgusting person, you know that?
| 996 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:09:47pm |
re: #986 NJDhockeyfan
ROPMA
The female piece of filth who murdered that child should be hanged. The rest of the family should be sent to prison for a very long time.
| 997 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:10:00pm |
| 998 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:10:23pm |
re: #982 Escaped Hillbilly
Can I say, not "fuck Democracy" but fuck the "tyranny of the majority"? Sometimes people get into groupthink and make bad decisions. That is what the courts and representative govt is for. If you don't like their decisions, you can vote them out. But this adds a layer of civility. I must say LGF could use a layer of civility right now.
What would you have instead? The tyranny of the minority fucktard wingnut homophobic sex-repressed gay-hatin' pseudo-celibate blog nuns?
God help us.
| 1000 |
Achilles Tang Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:11:05pm |
re: #952 Cato the Elder
Show me where I sound like Sarah. I make a point of not spewing word-salad "we're all real Amerkins" bullshit talking points.
And I've had it with Mandy's leg-humping wingnuttery.
You have your own version of salad dressing. Obviously home made.
| 1001 |
pingjockey Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:11:14pm |
re: #997 Stanley Sea
well, I gave you one back to even it out!
| 1002 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:11:19pm |
re: #996 Dark_Falcon
The female piece of filth who murdered that child should be hanged. The rest of the family should be sent to prison for a very long time.
They were all in on it....hang em' all!
| 1004 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:11:33pm |
re: #985 sattv4u2
Suggestion
Either stop drinking or stop posting for the night
Watching you try and get your zings in on Cato is pretty adorable
| 1005 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:11:54pm |
| 1006 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:11:59pm |
So....ahem....er...anyone had any good chocolate lately. (Chocolate covered brownies. Straight up evil.)
| 1007 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:12:03pm |
re: #1001 pingjockey
well, I gave you one back to even it out!
I love ya man! To moi, it's a milestone.
| 1008 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:12:06pm |
re: #986 NJDhockeyfan
ROPMA
Never look at yourself or your own fucked-up culture.
It's the key to maintaining your superiority complex.
| 1009 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:13:02pm |
re: #1004 WindUpBird
Watching you try and get your zings in on Cato is pretty adorable
So, tell us some more.
Adorable?
| 1010 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:13:10pm |
re: #1005 Floral Giraffe
Blood! Guts and gore!
But, wait, there's more!Where's the shamwow guy?
No, silly. That would be Billy Mays!! The Sam-Wow guy cleans up the blood!!!
| 1011 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:13:23pm |
re: #998 Cato the Elder
What would you have instead? The tyranny of the minority fucktard wingnut homophobic sex-repressed gay-hatin' pseudo-celibate blog nuns?
God help us.
EH was agreeing with you. She was calling that ARK law tyranny of the majority and advocating its repeal on those grounds.
| 1013 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:13:45pm |
re: #977 sattv4u2
Sorry Rein
Mandys sarcastic (yet , as you point out incorrect) "Fuck Democracy" comment did NOT deserve Catos 885
Mandy's "Fuck Democracy" was not sarcastic. It was a "Fuck You" to Stanley Sea for a viewpoint Mandy didn't agree with.
Cato's 885 was pretty damned vile. It was Cato's "Fuck You" to Mandy.
The outrage is "selective", it really is. And all of the "fuck you's" are senseless.
| 1014 |
pingjockey Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:13:52pm |
re: #1007 Stanley Sea
Hah! My karma is through the roof and I've been here only 3 years and I'm an equal opportunity up/down dinger, left/right wing.
| 1015 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:14:33pm |
re: #1008 Cato the Elder
Never look at yourself or your own fucked-up culture.
It's the key to maintaining your superiority complex.
I'm sorry....I must have missed all the honor killings going on in my neighborhood.
| 1017 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:15:42pm |
re: #1004 WindUpBird
Watching you try and get your zings in on Cato is pretty adorable
It wasn't a zing, nor an attempt at one
People have been banned here from going too far on late night threads.
But nice try!
| 1018 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:15:48pm |
re: #1013 reine.de.tout
Loves me some Toots!
| 1019 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:15:48pm |
| 1020 |
Bagua Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:15:49pm |
Ha! rien.de.tout wrote "Fuck You"4 times.
More signs of the imminent Apocalypse.
| 1022 |
Achilles Tang Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:16:15pm |
re: #978 WindUpBird
haha being outraged at someone who considers discrimination to be "democracy" and protests when a court shoots down an obviously unconstitutional bigoted law?
That ain't Sarah Palin territory.
I don't know what started it. Think I read everything like some overpaid lawyer?
I don't give a damn about the argument. I was commenting on the tone.
| 1024 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:16:39pm |
| 1025 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:16:43pm |
re: #1011 Dark_Falcon
EH was agreeing with you. She was calling that ARK law tyranny of the majority and advocating its repeal on those grounds.
Don't think so.
But I'll go back and read again.
What Mandy was doing was pissing on the rule of law in favor of her idea of "democracy" - which means in her eyes legalized discrimination.
She would have done well in pre-Civil Rights Dixie.
| 1026 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:17:04pm |
re: #1006 EmmmieG
So...ahem...er...anyone had any good chocolate lately. (Chocolate covered brownies. Straight up evil.)
yes, i have! Does beer count?
| 1028 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:17:37pm |
| 1029 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:17:50pm |
| 1030 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:18:12pm |
re: #1028 reine.de.tout
It'd get slobber on it...
| 1031 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:18:13pm |
re: #1015 NJDhockeyfan
I'm sorry...I must have missed all the honor killings going on in my neighborhood.
Yeah. In New Jersey, among the Guidos, they're called "crimes of passion" and draw maybe six months and a fine.
| 1032 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:18:14pm |
re: #1020 Bagua
Ha! rien.de.tout wrote "Fuck You"4 times.
More signs of the imminent Apocalypse.
Not only that, I'm not drinking tonight!!
/just kidding
| 1033 |
albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:18:15pm |
re: #1012 Bagua
[Video]
- Hot Tuna
I used to like those guys...still sounds good...(what's that fish smell?)
| 1034 |
Jadespring Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:18:18pm |
| 1035 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:18:24pm |
| 1036 |
Racer X Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:18:35pm |
re: #1013 reine.de.tout
Mandy's "Fuck Democracy" was not sarcastic. It was a "Fuck You" to Stanley Sea for a viewpoint Mandy didn't agree with.
Cato's 885 was pretty damned vile. It was Cato's "Fuck You" to Mandy.
The outrage is "selective", it really is. And all of the "fuck you's" are senseless.
I've had a few beers so i'll jump in.
I did not interpret Mandy's "FU" to be aimed at Stanley. It seemed to me her way of pointing out the law was passed by the people, and overturned by the court. I did not see a slap per se at Stanley. I may have missed it. and I'm buzzed.
IMHO Cato's response was unwarranted, but expected, seeing his recent fascination with Mandy, and the obvious desire to expose her as a TeaBagger and a racist and a whatever else fills his head at night. Obsessively.
| 1037 |
pingjockey Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:19:19pm |
BETELGEUSE
BETELGEUSE
BETELGEUSE
SARAH PALIN
SARAH PALIN
SARAH PALIN
GLEN BECK
GLEN BECK
GLEN BECK
are we still here?
| 1038 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:19:23pm |
re: #1013 reine.de.tout
Mandy's "Fuck Democracy" was not sarcastic. It was a "Fuck You" to Stanley Sea for a viewpoint Mandy didn't agree with.
Cato's 885 was pretty damned vile. It was Cato's "Fuck You" to Mandy.
The outrage is "selective", it really is. And all of the "fuck you's" are senseless.
We specialize in selective umbrage, here at LGF.
| 1039 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:19:25pm |
re: #1015 NJDhockeyfan
I'm sorry...I must have missed all the honor killings going on in my neighborhood.
Didn't you just post today something about a project that used pig manure for road tar under your heading "keeping the islamajihad out of your neighborhood"?? something like that.
I didn't respond & I was glad no one else did.
| 1040 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:19:39pm |
re: #1036 Racer X
I've had a few beers so i'll jump in.
I did not interpret Mandy's "FU" to be aimed at Stanley. It seemed to me her way of pointing out the law was passed by the people, and overturned by the court. I did not see a slap per se at Stanley. I may have missed it. and I'm buzzed.
IMHO Cato's response was unwarranted, but expected, seeing his recent fascination with Mandy, and the obvious desire to expose her as a TeaBagger and a racist and a whatever else fills his head at night. Obsessively.
You stated it better buzzed than I could cold stone sober
I 'saw" it that way also
Thanks
| 1041 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:19:46pm |
re: #1026 WindUpBird
I honestly can't say if those two tastes go together, so I will let you be the judge.
| 1042 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:20:01pm |
re: #1035 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
POTATOES!
Everyone is missing the "Twice Baked Potatoes" angle. Is a sad day.:(
| 1043 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:20:04pm |
re: #1022 Naso Tang
I don't know what started it. Think I read everything like some overpaid lawyer?
I don't give a damn about the argument. I was commenting on the tone.
What I'm saying is, sometimes sentiments make people mad for good reason. Like, for example, revisionist history about the confederacy here isn't often met with a kind tone.
| 1044 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:20:38pm |
re: #1037 pingjockey
BETELGEUSE
BETELGEUSE
BETELGEUSESARAH PALIN
SARAH PALIN
SARAH PALINGLEN BECK
GLEN BECK
GLEN BECKare we still here?
No.
We're somewhere else!
| 1045 |
Achilles Tang Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:20:45pm |
re: #1027 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I LIKE POTATOES!
Now, if you had made a pun there I might have stuck around, but it's past midnight so POTATO(E) is my cue.
Goodnight.
| 1046 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:20:53pm |
And on that note, think i'll go do something productive here at work
| 1047 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:20:53pm |
re: #1015 NJDhockeyfan
I'm sorry...I must have missed all the honor killings going on in my neighborhood.
You apparently also missed all the family annihilators in the U.S. before that, to judge from your last "ROPMA" post.
The Muslim world has some effed up stuff going on, no doubt. But they are not unique in that.
| 1048 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:21:02pm |
re: #1020 Bagua
Ha! rien.de.tout wrote "Fuck You"4 times.
More signs of the imminent Apocalypse.
What?
You fucking counted them?
| 1049 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:21:10pm |
re: #1038 SanFranciscoZionist
We specialize in selective umbrage, here at LGF.
WTF do you mean by that?
LOL!
Hi SFZ!
| 1051 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:21:30pm |
re: #1041 EmmmieG
I honestly can't say if those two tastes go together, so I will let you be the judge.
They dooooo 8-)
| 1052 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:21:38pm |
| 1053 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:21:40pm |
This thread is going in a direction I do not care to go. Good night, all.
| 1054 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:21:42pm |
re: #1031 Cato the Elder
Yeah. In New Jersey, among the Guidos, they're called "crimes of passion" and draw maybe six months and a fine.
I live in Virginia. Mob hits are criminal, not part of our culture or accepted by any of our churches.
Did you know 'Guidos' is a racist Italian slur? I guess we can refer to you as a racist from now on.
| 1055 |
albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:21:46pm |
re: #1038 SanFranciscoZionist
We specialize in selective umbrage, here at LGF.
thank goodness it's a whole lot better than 'before'
| 1056 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:21:52pm |
| 1057 |
Racer X Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:22:06pm |
re: #1037 pingjockey
BETELGEUSE
BETELGEUSE
BETELGEUSESARAH PALIN
SARAH PALIN
SARAH PALINGLEN BECK
GLEN BECK
GLEN BECKare we still here?
Yes.
But now my socks are gone. The shoes are there. What did you do?
| 1058 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:22:28pm |
re: #1031 Cato the Elder
Yeah. In New Jersey, among the Guidos, they're called "crimes of passion" and draw maybe six months and a fine.
Link for that, she asks warily.
| 1059 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:22:55pm |
re: #1054 NJDhockeyfan
I live in Virginia. Mob hits are criminal, not part of our culture or accepted by any of our churches.
Did you know 'Guidos' is a racist Italian slur? I guess we can refer to you as a racist from now on.
Please do. You'll be in good company à la the Borgmocrazy.
I would expect nothing less.
| 1060 |
Jadespring Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:22:58pm |
re: #1048 reine.de.tout
What?
You fucking counted them?
Quit it, my side is hurting from laughing now.
| 1061 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:22:59pm |
| 1062 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:23:35pm |
re: #1058 SanFranciscoZionist
Link for that, she asks warily.
You mean "The Sopranos" isn't a Documentary?
/
| 1063 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:23:56pm |
re: #1039 Stanley Sea
Didn't you just post today something about a project that used pig manure for road tar under your heading "keeping the islamajihad out of your neighborhood"?? something like that.
I didn't respond & I was glad no one else did.
Yeah, I did do that. I apologize...posting a story about swine shit in asphalt is the same as killing babies. I'm sorry.
///
| 1064 |
pingjockey Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:23:59pm |
re: #1057 Racer X
I ahve no idea. Someone mentioned reine had said fuck you in the post 4 times and that the apocalypse was imminent. So I thought I'd try something different!
| 1065 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:24:11pm |
re: #1056 Killgore Trout
Was in a bar tonight... heard a guy at a table yell (to his buddies)
"HYDROPONICS ROCKS!"
Question, KT. Think he's growing weed?
(I thought of you)
| 1066 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:24:13pm |
| 1068 |
researchok Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:25:08pm |
Like I said earlier, this blog is never dull.
| 1070 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:25:47pm |
re: #1065 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Was in a bar tonight... heard a guy at a table yell (to his buddies)
"HYDROPONICS ROCKS!"
Question, KT. Think he's growing weed?
(I thought of you)
Yes.
| 1071 |
Jadespring Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:26:05pm |
re: #1037 pingjockey
BETELGEUSE
BETELGEUSE
BETELGEUSESARAH PALIN
SARAH PALIN
SARAH PALINGLEN BECK
GLEN BECK
GLEN BECKare we still here?
Well I'm still here, but thanks dude, now due to your summoning Beck is sitting on my couch. He's very confused.
I called him a taxi.
| 1072 |
pingjockey Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:26:21pm |
re: #1065 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
What the hell else is hydroponics good for?!
| 1073 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:26:23pm |
re: #1065 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Was in a bar tonight... heard a guy at a table yell (to his buddies)
"HYDROPONICS ROCKS!"
Question, KT. Think he's growing weed?
(I thought of you)
I'm not KT, but doing some gardening things, I must say I am SHOCKED at the amount of "hydroponics" and organic junk that is strictly aimed at the weed growers. I had no idea there were so many of them. I'm growing flowers, but buying very nice set ups meant for weed. At decent prices, because of the volume.
| 1074 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:26:32pm |
re: #1062 Cannadian Club Akbar
You mean "The Sopranos" isn't a Documentary?
/
Actually, 'crimes of passion' were a legal category in many Christian countries for a long time. Killing your wife or your lover in a rage was considered not to be 'real' murder, and was treated with a slap on the wrist. Women's groups got that changed far too recently in Italy, for example.
I'm just concerned if we're still operating on that system in Jersey.
| 1075 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:26:41pm |
re: #1065 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Was in a bar tonight... heard a guy at a table yell (to his buddies)
"HYDROPONICS ROCKS!"
Question, KT. Think he's growing weed?
(I thought of you)
The radio show I used to listen to, basically a pop culture/nerd 20-something format show that was fantastic and very strange, they ALWAYS had these ads for a local garden superstore that specialized in home hydro systems. And I always wondered "why are they advertising on this show? Do geeks garden? Then one day I went OOOOoooohhh..."
| 1076 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:26:41pm |
re: #1065 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Was in a bar tonight... heard a guy at a table yell (to his buddies)
"HYDROPONICS ROCKS!"
Question, KT. Think he's growing weed?
(I thought of you)
Actually, he prolly just smoked some.
| 1077 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:26:41pm |
re: #1061 Floral Giraffe
Where would you like to be, more than this?
Upding for Bryan. Too bad he's lost his voice. Saw him in 2002 at the Oscar theater in L.A. By that time he had already replaced vocal range with really hawt blonde grrrls in the orchestra.
I had good seats, so I was not disappointed.
| 1078 |
Renaissance_Man Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:26:56pm |
re: #1071 Jadespring
Well I'm still here, but thanks dude, now due to your summoning Beck is sitting on my couch. He's very confused.
I called him a taxi.
Let me guess - his response was 'Sure, you can call me all sorts of names, but I'M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS!'
| 1079 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:27:09pm |
re: #1065 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Think he's growing weed?
Possibly but It's amazingly impressive with food crops too. I had fresh tomatoes and pablano peppers all winter long. Hydroponics does indeed rock.
| 1080 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:27:19pm |
re: #1071 Jadespring
Well I'm still here, but thanks dude, now due to your summoning Beck is sitting on my couch. He's very confused.
I called him a taxi.
Just tell him the Obama administration did it. He'll be pleased, and do a show about it.
| 1081 |
pingjockey Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:27:45pm |
re: #1071 Jadespring
That's good. Interesting too. Good thing I didn't throw Rosie O'donnel(?) in that mix.
| 1082 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:27:57pm |
re: #1065 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Was in a bar tonight... heard a guy at a table yell (to his buddies)
"HYDROPONICS ROCKS!"
Question, KT. Think he's growing weed?
(I thought of you)
Maybe he grows tomatoes year round and just had BLT.
| 1083 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:28:00pm |
re: #1073 Floral Giraffe
I'm not KT, but doing some gardening things, I must say I am SHOCKED at the amount of "hydroponics" and organic junk that is strictly aimed at the weed growers. I had no idea there were so many of them. I'm growing flowers, but buying very nice set ups meant for weed. At decent prices, because of the volume.
If you've never seen this movie, Saving Grace, you need to get it now, see it now.
You will not stop laughing.
| 1084 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:28:16pm |
re: #1079 Killgore Trout
Possibly but It's amazingly impressive with food crops too. I had fresh tomatoes and pablano peppers all winter long. Hydroponics does indeed rock.
Planting season puts me in a good mood. Strawberries, blueberries, peas and tomatoes.
The Princess just re-potted her Venus Flytrap.
| 1085 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:28:17pm |
re: #1075 WindUpBird
The radio show I used to listen to, basically a pop culture/nerd 20-something format show that was fantastic and very strange, they ALWAYS had these ads for a local garden superstore that specialized in home hydro systems. And I always wondered "why are they advertising on this show? Do geeks garden? Then one day I went OOOooohhh..."
IIRC, hydroponic systems grow great tomatoes.
| 1086 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:28:34pm |
re: #1077 Cato the Elder
Upding for Bryan. Too bad he's lost his voice. Saw him in 2002 at the Oscar theater in L.A. By that time he had already replaced vocal range with really hawt blonde grrrls in the orchestra.
I had good seats, so I was not disappointed.
Well, you are just asking for more, aren't you?
| 1087 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:29:01pm |
re: #1079 Killgore Trout
Possibly but It's amazingly impressive with food crops too. I had fresh tomatoes and pablano peppers all winter long. Hydroponics does indeed rock.
Good things come out of other good things.
/stoner talk.
| 1088 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:29:10pm |
re: #1081 pingjockey
That's good. Interesting too. Good thing I didn't throw Rosie O'donnel(?) in that mix.
His fridge would be empty in minutes.
| 1089 |
Jadespring Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:29:18pm |
re: #1081 pingjockey
That's good. Interesting too. Good thing I didn't throw Rosie O'donnel(?) in that mix.
Don't even think about it!!!!
It's bad enough already trying to explain this to my husband.
| 1091 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:30:20pm |
re: #1083 reine.de.tout
Ain't that the old british lady pot growing movie?
| 1092 |
Racer X Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:30:25pm |
re: #1084 EmmmieG
Planting season puts me in a good mood. Strawberries, blueberries, peas and tomatoes.
The Princess just re-potted her Venus Flytrap.
I just ate a strawberry we grew in the yard. it was tasty.
| 1093 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:30:54pm |
re: #1091 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Ain't that the old british lady pot growing movie?
Yep.
Hi-FUCKING-larious.
And that's the last one for this evening.
| 1094 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:31:31pm |
re: #1093 reine.de.tout
Yep.
Hi-FUCKING-larious.And that's the last one for this evening.
One.
/I'm watching you!!!
| 1095 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:31:39pm |
re: #1084 EmmmieG
Here's an idea...
Click Emmmie's avatar... take a few deep breaths... and come back posting.
AVATAR DING!
| 1096 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:31:45pm |
| 1097 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:32:06pm |
re: #1083 reine.de.tout
Adaptation was also a damn fine movie....
...about orchids and writers and such.
| 1098 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:32:17pm |
Think this book is going to be a bestseller?
New Scientology Book Claims To Expose Tom Cruise "Secrets": Drugs and Divorce Ultimatums
Tom Cruise has become embroiled in another Scientology controversy, RadarOnline.com has learned. Former high-ranking Scientology member Amy Scobee is about to release a book that could potentially embarrass the superstar, allegedly revealing secrets about his relationship with the religion.
Cruise is not taking the claims lying down. His powerhouse attorney Bert Fields has already sent a letter denying Scobee’s claims and threatening legal action against her.
Scobee, who had been with the church since she was 14, is set to release Scientology: Abuse At The Top next month. It’s been reported that her book claims Cruise had a drug history and that he was worried that this would keep him out of the church. She also alleges that the star was given an ultimatum to choose between Scientology and his second wife Nicole Kidman and that a church member, who was supposed to be handling Cruise’s finances, was punished for losing him money.
In addition, Scobee reports that all of Cruise’s household staff is selected and paid for by the church which was founded by science fiction writer Ron L. Hubbard.
| 1099 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:32:19pm |
re: #1092 Racer X
I just ate a strawberry we grew in the yard. it was tasty.
I just ordered (earlier) rosemary and basil for work.:)
| 1100 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:32:23pm |
re: #1095 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Here's an idea...
Click Emmmie's avatar... take a few deep breaths... and come back posting.
AVATAR DING!
Thanks. I actually had two extra boys today, now they're gone and mine are asleep, and I'm quite relaxed.
| 1101 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:33:02pm |
re: #1093 reine.de.tout
Yep.
Hi-FUCKING-larious.And that's the last one for this evening.
I favorited it for future reference! Thanks!
| 1104 |
Jadespring Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:34:00pm |
YOU PEOPLE! QUICT TALKING ABOUT ME YOU SOCIALIST NAZI....
| 1105 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:34:11pm |
Fucking guy on Man Vs. Food is using a power tool to cut meat. Idiot.
| 1106 |
pingjockey Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:34:22pm |
good night folks, and a pleasent tomorrow!
| 1107 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:34:29pm |
re: #1097 Killgore Trout
Adaptation was also a damn fine movie...
[Video]
...about orchids and writers and such.
Just put it at the top of my netflix queue!
| 1108 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:34:49pm |
re: #1106 pingjockey
good night folks, and a pleasent tomorrow!
You need to learn how to spell tommorow.
| 1109 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:34:50pm |
re: #1105 Cannadian Club Akbar
My mother claimed her father used the ban saw to cut frozen hamburger, and swore them not to tell their mother.
| 1110 |
Jadespring Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:34:51pm |
re: #1104 Jadespring
YOU PEOPLE! QUICT TALKING ABOUT ME YOU SOCIALIST NAZI...
Oops sorry Beck just took over my computer. Had to fight him off.
He's on the couch crying now.
Hope this damn taxi comes soon.
| 1111 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:35:01pm |
re: #1104 Jadespring
YOU PEOPLE! QUICT TALKING ABOUT ME YOU SOCIALIST NAZI...
At least we're not "Spelling Nazis."
| 1112 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:35:02pm |
ROPMA
Muslim Egyptian Girl Who Converted to Christianity Subjected to Acid Attack
Dina el-Gowhary, the 15-year-old Egyptian Muslim-born girl who converted to Christianity, was subjected to an acid attack, the latest in a string of failed attempts by Muslim fanatics against her and her father, 57-year-old Peter Athanasius (Maher el-Gowhary), who converted to Christianity 35 years ago. Several Fatwa's were issued calling for the "spilling of his blood," which makes their lives in constant danger in the face of the reactionaries and advocates for the enforcement of Islamic apostasy laws, which call for the death of a convert.
Dina said that three weeks ago as she ventured out from their hiding place in Alexandria with her father to get some bottled water, her jacket was set on fire due to acid being thrown at her. "My father quickly took my jacket off before the fire reached my arms. Ever since then I am terrorized to go out in the street, with or without my father."
Through an aired interview with Freecopts advocacy Dina addressed an open letter to President Mubarak of Egypt begging him to save her and her father and allow them to leave Egypt.
| 1113 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:35:11pm |
re: #1098 NJDhockeyfan
Think this book is going to be a bestseller?
New Scientology Book Claims To Expose Tom Cruise "Secrets": Drugs and Divorce Ultimatums
Possibly.
Me, I would pay good money not to know about Tom Cruise's secrets.
| 1114 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:35:48pm |
| 1115 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:35:59pm |
re: #1107 reine.de.tout
It's kind of a chick flick but I liked it anyways. Nick Cage has unfortunately wasted his career with too much garbage but he does have talent. Hope you enjoy.
| 1116 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:36:07pm |
re: #1097 Killgore Trout
The first movie where Chris Cooper jumped out at me.
Talk about stealing a movie... He owned that movie.
| 1117 |
cliffster Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:37:28pm |
just dropped by. Spelling seems to be a problem tonight. Why is that?
| 1118 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:37:33pm |
| 1120 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:38:20pm |
re: #1115 Killgore Trout
He was taken over by a pod person when he went "action hero".
| 1121 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:38:20pm |
re: #1117 cliffster
just dropped by. Spelling seems to be a problem tonight. Why is that?
It's Fryday!!
/
| 1122 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:38:30pm |
Spelling nazis, soup nazis, oh where will the madness end?
| 1123 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:39:02pm |
re: #1086 Floral Giraffe
Well, you are just asking for more, aren't you?
Nice.
You know when I report that the orchestra was blonde, I mean all of them, right?
All young, all blonde, all with ponytails, all in black, all slim, all fit, all waggin' those tails like tomorrow was the last day.
And, I bet, all waitin' for a call from Bryan's hotel room after the show was over.
I would do the same, if I were a hot young blonde cellist.
| 1124 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:39:08pm |
re: #1117 cliffster
just dropped by. Spelling seems to be a problem tonight. Why is that?
Tea party signs on the brain
| 1125 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:39:15pm |
re: #1122 EmmmieG
Spelling nazis, soup nazis, oh where will the madness end?
At "Get off my lawn" Nazis?
/
| 1126 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:39:32pm |
re: #1115 Killgore Trout
It's kind of a chick flick but I liked it anyways. Nick Cage has unfortunately wasted his career with too much garbage but he does have talent. Hope you enjoy.
I will. I like Nicolas Cage, and the theme looks similar to Saving Grace. I can always use a good laugh.
| 1127 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:39:56pm |
re: #1115 Killgore Trout
It's kind of a chick flick but I liked it anyways. Nick Cage has unfortunately wasted his career with too much garbage but he does have talent. Hope you enjoy.
Well, and also, I'm a chick and all, so it being a chick flick isn't a problem.
| 1128 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:40:37pm |
re: #1097 Killgore Trout
Adaptation was also a damn fine movie...
[Video]
...about orchids and writers and such.
Ewww. I was at the show it was filmed at. Actually, my society's display is the centerpiece. The show producers kept walking around asking "don't you want to be in the movie" and did NOT like my "oh, yes, how many Guild hours will I get"? response. There's a lot of really odd people who grow specific plants. Fetishists?
| 1129 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:40:40pm |
re: #1126 reine.de.tout
(not much laughing in this movie) but it is brilliantly acted...
| 1130 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:40:53pm |
re: #1127 reine.de.tout
Well, and also, I'm a chick and all, so it being a chick flick isn't a problem.
I am a sucker for a chick flick. Go ahead and down-ding at will.
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kingkenrod Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:41:31pm |
re: #1116 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The first movie where Chris Cooper jumped out at me.
Talk about stealing a movie... He owned that movie.
He stole American Beauty too, imo. A great actor.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:41:44pm |
re: #1129 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
(not much laughing in this movie) but it is brilliantly acted...
Well - that'll be OK too!
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:41:52pm |
re: #1105 Cannadian Club Akbar
Fucking guy on Man Vs. Food is using a power tool to cut meat. Idiot.
Why? What do you think they cut meat with at the industrial butcheries?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:42:44pm |
re: #1133 Cato the Elder
Why? What do you think they cut meat with at the industrial butcheries?
MEAT IS MURDER!
Sorry... wanted to end the night with a bang.
G'NIGHT GRANDPA!
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:43:04pm |
re: #1133 Cato the Elder
Why? What do you think they cut meat with at the industrial butcheries?
SHRUBBERIES!
Kabloom.
Off to look for the you tubiness.
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keloyd Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:43:09pm |
re: #939 WindUpBird
and you know Mandy is none of those things. Opposition to homosexual adoption is something you could disagree with, maybe disapprove of, but when we all calm down, you will admit it does not belong on that list of rhetorical flourish.
Let's all have a fortifying Guinness and calm down.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:43:14pm |
re: #1112 NJDhockeyfan
ROPMA
Muslim Egyptian Girl Who Converted to Christianity Subjected to Acid Attack
CHRISTMA: Young boys and sometimes grrrls abused by Catholic priests.
Asshole.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:43:18pm |
re: #1133 Cato the Elder
Why? What do you think they cut meat with at the industrial butcheries?
It was a BBQ joint, not a meat cutting plant.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:43:48pm |
re: #1115 Killgore Trout
It's kind of a chick flick but I liked it anyways. Nick Cage has unfortunately wasted his career with too much garbage but he does have talent. Hope you enjoy.
I will not stand idly by and let you defame the cinematic achievement that is Wicker Man!
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:43:57pm |
re: #1134 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
MEAT IS MURDER!
Sorry... wanted to end the night with a bang.
G'NIGHT GRANDPA!
Murder is very tasty smothered in mushrooms & onions.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:44:17pm |
re: #1138 Cannadian Club Akbar
It was a BBQ joint, not a meat cutting plant.
AND, what he was cutting was a side of pork.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:44:52pm |
British bishop Richard Williamson fined £9,000 for denying Holocaust
A British Roman Catholic bishop was convicted yesterday by a German court of denying the Holocaust.
Richard Williamson, 70, excommunicated for his extreme views, was fined €10,000 (£8,700) after he said in a TV interview broadcast in Sweden last year that it was “lies” that Jews were murdered in gas chambers by the Nazis and that only “200,000 to 300,000 Jews perished in concentration camps”.
The broadcast came two days before the lifting of his ex-communication for belonging to an estranged Catholic order by the Pope, who later said that he “deeply deplored” the fact that better checks had not been made of Williamson’s views before his rehabilitation.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:44:55pm |
re: #1133 Cato the Elder
Ok, it's called "how not to be seen".
I had it wrong.
Kablooey, anyway!
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:45:36pm |
Movie stealing: Flying down to Rio.
I'll bet you didn't even know that Rogers & Astaire weren't the stars.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:45:48pm |
re: #1137 Cato the Elder
CHRISTMA: Young boys and sometimes grrrls abused by Catholic priests.
Asshole.
Yes, I know. I've posted a number of links to those stories. Your point is?
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:46:31pm |
re: #1140 NJDhockeyfan
Murder is very tasty smothered in mushrooms & onions.
So is Grandpa. Takes some boiling, but eventually you can render him as tender as Trig.
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Racer X Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:46:59pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:47:42pm |
So, what does this say about Hindus? I want to reference my ass in some way, but I'm not sure what the acronym is.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:48:23pm |
re: #1146 Cato the Elder
So is Grandpa. Takes some boiling, but eventually you can render him as tender as Trig.
Cato, leave the kid alone. He is not responsible for his mother's actions.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:48:58pm |
re: #1136 keloyd
and you know Mandy is none of those things. Opposition to homosexual adoption is something you could disagree with, maybe disapprove of, but when we all calm down, you will admit it does not belong on that list of rhetorical flourish.
Let's all have a fortifying Guinness and calm down.
Actually, it absolutely belongs on that list of rhetorica flourish.
The notion that a gay couple is not suitable to adopt is every bit as abhorrent to me as the notion that blacks and whites shouldn't able to marry. It provides cover for the meme that gay people are automatically suspected of being pedophiles by virtue of their being gay.
I don't know what Mandy is or is not, but I do know that the exact same crowd that opposed interracial marriage is out there opposing gay marriage. The same so-cons, the same convergence of paranoids and dominionists. The same people who used to champion segregation are ginning up fear about gays, comparing being gay to being addicted to drugs. Huckabee RAN FOR PRESIDENT and he's saying that? i used to like the man, i'm shamed to say.
It's out there, and it's real, and maybe you don't notice so much because it's not affecting you or your friends directly.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:49:28pm |
re: #1146 Cato the Elder
So is Grandpa. Takes some boiling, but eventually you can render him as tender as Trig.
Nothing more funny than cracking jokes about kids with Down's Syndrome. What a class act you are.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:49:30pm |
re: #1140 NJDhockeyfan
Murder is very tasty smothered in mushrooms & onions.
I like murder with peppercorns and bacon, myself *_*
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:49:47pm |
re: #1143 Floral Giraffe
[Video]Ok, it's called "how not to be seen".
I had it wrong.
Kablooey, anyway!
Poor Mrs. Smegma. I knew her once, Horatio!
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Racer X Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:49:49pm |
re: #1146 Cato the Elder
So is Grandpa. Takes some boiling, but eventually you can render him as tender as Trig.
I did not think that one was funny.
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Jadespring Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:50:37pm |
What does ROPMA mean?
All I got with google was Reserve Officer Personnel Management Act.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:50:39pm |
re: #1145 NJDhockeyfan
Yes, I know. I've posted a number of links to those stories. Your point is?
If you haven't figured that out yet, I'm very much afraid I can't help you.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:51:05pm |
re: #1155 Jadespring
What does ROPMA mean?
All I got with google was Reserve Officer Personnel Management Act.
Religion of peace, my ass.
Forgive me. You asked.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:51:09pm |
re: #1152 WindUpBird
I like murder with peppercorns and bacon, myself *_*
A reduced heavy cream with mushrooms....
| 1159 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:51:12pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:51:25pm |
re: #1155 Jadespring
What does ROPMA mean?
All I got with google was Reserve Officer Personnel Management Act.
It stands for 'Religion of Peace My Ass', and is usually used to mark some story about violence attributed to Islam or Islamic culture.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:51:30pm |
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Bagua Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:51:38pm |
A great deal of horticulture is essentially hydroponic. The poinsettia you buy looks like it is in soil but the substrate is usually a soil-less mix. The nutrients are water soluble salts delivered with the water or dissolving in the soil from pellet, fertigation. It would grow just as well in just perlite, which is inert, with the same fertigation. The variations are in the delivery mechanics.
Even a fair amount of field horticulture is essentially hydroponic. The soils are depleted and will not support their crops without the application of fertigation.
Lovely crops can be grown in the desert, with the sand as a substrate and drip-fertigation. Covered with plastic to mulch, I've seen such done in the Sinai with the result of choice melons.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:51:48pm |
re: #1151 NJDhockeyfan
Nothing more funny than cracking jokes about kids with Down's Syndrome. What a class act you are.
It's "Down syndrome", you tard.
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Jadespring Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:52:02pm |
re: #1157 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Religion of peace, my ass.
Forgive me. You asked.
Oh... I see.
S'okay. I forgive you.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:53:03pm |
re: #1155 Jadespring
What does ROPMA mean?
All I got with google was Reserve Officer Personnel Management Act.
Religion of Peace something something. it's a thing, when muslims do something bad it's like a zing against Islam or something. because only muslims do crazy fuck things to their kids I guess
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:53:43pm |
re: #1160 SanFranciscoZionist
It stands for 'Religion of Peace My Ass', and is usually used to mark some story about violence attributed to Islam or Islamic culture.
It's one of those old time LGF memes, isn't it?
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:54:17pm |
| 1168 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:54:19pm |
re: #1155 Jadespring
What does ROPMA mean?
All I got with google was Reserve Officer Personnel Management Act.
Actually, I was bummed to find out. And I hate to see it continually used. It's a slur.
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researchok Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:55:29pm |
re: #1165 WindUpBird
Religion of Peace something something. it's a thing, when muslims do something bad it's like a zing against Islam or something. because only muslims do crazy fuck things to their kids I guess
There is a difference. Much of the abuse is culturally sanctioned. It isn't seen as aberrant.
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albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:56:16pm |
re: #1166 WindUpBird
It's one of those old time LGF memes, isn't it?
no, it's actually timeless, even tho the meme meme is pretty worn out around here....imo of course
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:56:22pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:56:30pm |
re: #1166 WindUpBird
It's one of those old time LGF memes, isn't it?
Goes back a ways here, I do not know if it's unique to the site.
Granted, I think it started as an irritable response to the avalanche of silly "Islam is a religion of peace" statements right after 9/11. (Note: Islam is not a religion of peace. Christianity is not a religion of peace. Judaism is not a religion of peace. All of them recognize peace as a high social good, but have no problem going to war in a time of war.
Jainism is a religion of peace. They also, AFAIK, do not tell everyone about it all the damn time.
| 1174 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:56:39pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:56:52pm |
re: #1170 NJDhockeyfan
Hey! Hengineer's girlfriend is here!
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cenotaphium Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:57:21pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:57:51pm |
re: #1156 Cato the Elder
If you haven't figured that out yet, I'm very much afraid I can't help you.
I'm really not interested in getting help from a racist who tells jokes involving babies with Downs Syndrome, but thanks for the offer.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:57:53pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:57:54pm |
re: #1168 Stanley Sea
Actually, I was bummed to find out. And I hate to see it continually used. It's a slur.
Well, as long as people tout the Islamic religion as "the religion of peace" it will keep getting said. Better than the "religion of pieces" which is also said.
For the sploidy dopes.
I MISS THE ROOSTER!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:58:11pm |
re: #1169 researchok
There is a difference. Much of the abuse is culturally sanctioned. It isn't seen as aberrant.
yeah yeah, they don't love their children like we do, makes the othering easier 9_9
we're much more advanced here in the American Jesus God United States of Christmerica, we just cast out our queer kids onto the street. Much more humane.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:58:12pm |
re: #1175 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Hey! Hengineer's girlfriend is here!
That was a very, very funny post. And I doubt anyone will get it.
MWAHAHAHAHAHA!
(night, really)
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:58:23pm |
re: #1169 researchok
There is a difference. Much of the abuse is culturally sanctioned. It isn't seen as aberrant.
Same goes for Hindus, but I don't see dowry murder stories posted here routinely with little commentary and a snide acronym.
I have no problem discussing violence against women in the Muslim world, but I don't like it being used as a knee-jerk thing.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:58:49pm |
re: #1175 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Hey! Hengineer's girlfriend is here!
OMG, Yes, you did say that!
*snort*
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:59:08pm |
re: #1173 SanFranciscoZionist
Goes back a ways here, I do not know if it's unique to the site.
Granted, I think it started as an irritable response to the avalanche of silly "Islam is a religion of peace" statements right after 9/11. (Note: Islam is not a religion of peace. Christianity is not a religion of peace. Judaism is not a religion of peace. All of them recognize peace as a high social good, but have no problem going to war in a time of war.
Jainism is a religion of peace. They also, AFAIK, do not tell everyone about it all the damn time.
It does sound like the Amish are pretty close 8-)
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:59:15pm |
re: #1179 Floral Giraffe
Well, as long as people tout the Islamic religion as "the religion of peace" it will keep getting said. Better than the "religion of pieces" which is also said.
For the sploidy dopes.I MISS THE ROOSTER!
I miss the rooster too.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:59:16pm |
re: #1176 cenotaphium
You're on notice, buddy, for fucking up a prank before the victim has had a chance to see it!
/I'm watching you...
| 1187 |
Racer X Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:59:22pm |
re: #1171 albusteve
I found a really cool old Stones video you may like. Awesome stuff.
| 1188 |
Jadespring Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:59:31pm |
re: #1168 Stanley Sea
Actually, I was bummed to find out. And I hate to see it continually used. It's a slur.
Well when I read it, it made me think of Oompa Loompas for some reason and sing the song in my head and think of chocolate and candy. So I think I'll just stick with that thought whenever it comes up.
| 1189 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 9:59:51pm |
re: #1139 WindUpBird
Birdy, Peggy Sue got Married and Leaving Las Vegas were all very good films.
Birdy is a very underrated and forgotten movie....
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:00:25pm |
re: #1179 Floral Giraffe
Well, as long as people tout the Islamic religion as "the religion of peace" it will keep getting said. Better than the "religion of pieces" which is also said.
For the sploidy dopes.I MISS THE ROOSTER!
haha god help me I loled
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:00:38pm |
| 1192 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:00:46pm |
re: #1182 SanFranciscoZionist
Same goes for Hindus, but I don't see dowry murder stories posted here routinely with little commentary and a snide acronym.
I have no problem discussing violence against women in the Muslim world, but I don't like it being used as a knee-jerk thing.
Precisely.
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Racer X Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:01:17pm |
re: #1186 Slumbering Behemoth
You're on notice, buddy, for fucking up a prank before the victim has had a chance to see it!
/I'm watching you...
Heh - I saw it. Not a fan of ICP.
| 1194 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:01:19pm |
re: #1189 Killgore Trout
Birdy, Peggy Sue got Married and Leaving Las Vegas were all very good films.
Birdy is a very underrated and forgotten movie...
[Video]
Actually, my favorite Cage film is Raising Arizona 8-) Leaving Las Vegas is pretty fantastic.
| 1195 |
cenotaphium Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:01:20pm |
re: #1186 Slumbering Behemoth
You're on notice, buddy, for fucking up a prank before the victim has had a chance to see it!
/I'm watching you...
I'm sorry! :(
I guess I just got excited over recognizing that miracle of sound engineering.
| 1196 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:01:46pm |
re: #1177 NJDhockeyfan
I'm really not interested in getting help from a racist who tells jokes involving babies with Downs Syndrome, but thanks for the offer.
I'm a racist? For using the word "Guidos"?
I think you might really be more comfortable at another site. You know which one I mean.
And it's "Down syndrome", you fucktard. And the baby I'm talking about was used by his racist Reel Merkin mother for political gain.
Fair game.
| 1197 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:01:59pm |
re: #1194 WindUpBird
Actually, my favorite Cage film is Raising Arizona 8-) Leaving Las Vegas is pretty fantastic.
Con Air was pretty good.
| 1198 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:02:09pm |
re: #1182 SanFranciscoZionist
Same goes for Hindus, but I don't see dowry murder stories posted here routinely with little commentary and a snide acronym.
I have no problem discussing violence against women in the Muslim world, but I don't like it being used as a knee-jerk thing.
RESPECT KNUCKLES
| 1199 |
keloyd Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:02:24pm |
re: #1142 NJDhockeyfan
British bishop Richard Williamson fined £9,000 for denying Holocaust
That fine is more messed up than the content of his speech. If you're not directly inciting violence, then free speech means free speech. If the Man can take away your right to deny the Holocaust today, the Man can take away your right to critisize Big Brother tomorrow.
| 1200 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:02:33pm |
re: #1182 SanFranciscoZionist
Same goes for Hindus, but I don't see dowry murder stories posted here routinely with little commentary and a snide acronym.
I have no problem discussing violence against women in the Muslim world, but I don't like it being used as a knee-jerk thing.
HINDMA!
| 1201 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:02:39pm |
| 1202 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:02:44pm |
re: #1194 WindUpBird
Actually, my favorite Cage film is Raising Arizona 8-) Leaving Las Vegas is pretty fantastic.
Raising Arizona rocked!! The soundtrack to LLV was brilliant. Written by the director, Mike Figgas!!
| 1203 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:03:13pm |
re: #1190 WindUpBird
haha god help me I loled
You are so going to hell for that . . .
With me, I guess!
| 1204 |
researchok Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:03:16pm |
re: #1180 WindUpBird
yeah yeah, they don't love their children like we do, makes the othering easier 9_9
we're much more advanced here in the American Jesus God United States of Christmerica, we just cast out our queer kids onto the street. Much more humane.
In western cultures, aberrant behavior is is seen and judged as aberrant behavior.
Honor killings are part and parcel of some cultures. Those behaviors are not considered aberrant.
The same applies to racism and bigotry. In the west, democracies have long worked to rid themselves of institutionalized and religious racism and bigotry. We consider bigotry to be aberrant.
In some cultures, bigotry is defines both cultural and religious identity.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:03:40pm |
re: #1197 NJDhockeyfan
Con Air was pretty good.
Con Air was fun, yes. Though it was really Steve Buscemi and Malkovich that chewed p the scenery in that one.
"One girl, I drove through three states wearing her head as a hat!"
| 1206 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:03:48pm |
re: #1194 WindUpBird
Actually, my favorite Cage film is Raising Arizona
Damn, I forgot the obvious. My Favorite as well.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:03:58pm |
re: #1194 WindUpBird
Actually, my favorite Cage film is Raising Arizona 8-) Leaving Las Vegas is pretty fantastic.
"I'm barren" HH
| 1208 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:04:08pm |
re: #1193 Racer X
Heh - I saw it. Not a fan of ICP.
Nor am I, and that video, particularly it's appeal to ignorance, makes me like them even less.
But hey, serves me right for trying to prank you with something mainstream. I'll try to stick to more obscure sources for video pranks.
| 1209 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:04:15pm |
Oh, and a touch of better news on honor killings.
| 1210 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:04:16pm |
Who is the Rooster?
Any relation to John Galt?
| 1211 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:04:40pm |
re: #1201 SanFranciscoZionist
?
ya know, respect knuckles! fist bump! When you approve of a thing :D
| 1212 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:04:48pm |
re: #1199 keloyd
That fine is more messed up than the content of his speech. If you're not directly inciting violence, then free speech means free speech. If the Man can take away your right to deny the Holocaust today, the Man can take away your right to critisize Big Brother tomorrow.
Germany has laws against denying the Holocaust. It's a huge sore spot in their history. I can understand it.
| 1213 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:05:21pm |
re: #1210 Cato the Elder
Who is the Rooster?
Any relation to John Galt?
The Gaza Rooster. When we were watching Operation Cast Lead on the webfeed, there was this rooster...Cato, you remember the rooster, don't you?
| 1214 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:05:28pm |
re: #1207 Stanley Sea
"I'm barren" HH
"Edwina's insides were a rocky place where my seed could find no purchase."
God damn the Coen Bros. have the best dialogue on earth.
| 1215 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:05:34pm |
re: #1211 WindUpBird
ya know, respect knuckles! fist bump! When you approve of a thing :D
Ah! Back atcha.
| 1216 |
cliffster Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:05:38pm |
re: #1194 WindUpBird
Actually, my favorite Cage film is Raising Arizona 8-) Leaving Las Vegas is pretty fantastic.
Son, you got a panty on your head
| 1217 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:05:42pm |
re: #1204 researchok
In some cultures, bigotry is defines [sic] both cultural and religious identity.
The state of Utah comes to mind.
| 1218 |
albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:05:47pm |
re: #1187 Racer X
I found a really cool old Stones video you may like. Awesome stuff.
[Video]
bizarre....I've never seen it, but I don't think that song went far up the charts
| 1219 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:06:11pm |
re: #1212 NJDhockeyfan
Germany has laws against denying the Holocaust. It's a huge sore spot in their history. I can understand it.
They're also not a big fan of cults! (waves to Scientology)
| 1220 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:06:25pm |
| 1221 |
researchok Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:06:38pm |
re: #1217 Cato the Elder
The state of Utah comes to mind.
Some truth to that, but not quite equivalent.
| 1222 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:06:45pm |
home.
and with home...
BEER
| 1223 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:06:48pm |
re: #1209 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh, and a touch of better news on honor killings.
Outstanding! I hope they make a difference.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:07:09pm |
re: #1211 WindUpBird
ya know, respect knuckles! fist bump! When you approve of a thing :D
HA!! You are a Teabaggerrepublicanpartyplantthatisfromthedemsidetomakeuslookbadandallthat.
/I need a Gatorade!!!
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:07:21pm |
re: #1212 NJDhockeyfan
Germany has laws against denying the Holocaust. It's a huge sore spot in their history. I can understand it.
I understand it, while not being totally comfortable with it, but also without really caring much what they do to this guy who is a total ass.
Is my position on the matter clear?
| 1226 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:07:28pm |
re: #1214 WindUpBird
"Edwina's insides were a rocky place where my seed could find no purchase."
God damn the Coen Bros. have the best dialogue on earth.
Gotta watch again. I'm laughing so hard remembering.
| 1227 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:07:36pm |
re: #1182 SanFranciscoZionist
Same goes for Hindus, but I don't see dowry murder stories posted here routinely with little commentary and a snide acronym.
I have no problem discussing violence against women in the Muslim world, but I don't like it being used as a knee-jerk thing.
There is a difference. Indian culture is surely fucked up and backwards from a Western perspective. There are certainly extremists. However, they aren't plotting terrorist attacks on the West and unlike the Muslim world, they have a prosperous and increasingly modern society of their own.
| 1228 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:07:37pm |
re: #1213 SanFranciscoZionist
The Gaza Rooster. When we were watching Operation Cast Lead on the webfeed, there was this rooster...Cato, you remember the rooster, don't you?
Was it a Hamas rooster, and the international press made a big deal out of his suffering, and PETA got into the game?
No, I don't remember, but I can imagine.
| 1229 |
Racer X Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:07:38pm |
re: #1196 Cato the Elder
I'm a racist? For using the word "Guidos"?
I think you might really be more comfortable at another site. You know which one I mean.
And it's "Down syndrome", you fucktard. And the baby I'm talking about was used by his racist Reel Merkin mother for political gain.
Fair game.
You really are pathetic tonight. Not sure what is up your ass, but it stinks.
'You really would be more comfortable over at the stalker site?' Ha! you might as well whimper "get outta my room or I'm telling daddy!"
| 1230 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:08:35pm |
re: #1219 WindUpBird
They're also not a big fan of cults! (waves to Scientology)
You wanna freak a German out? Demonstrate the Pledge of Allegiance.
For maximum points, do it with another several Americans so they can see we really were all trained to do it in unison in grade school.
They turn sort of grayish.
| 1231 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:08:37pm |
re: #1221 researchok
Some truth to that, but not quite equivalent.
Equivalence is the hobgoblin of small minds.
| 1232 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:08:48pm |
| 1233 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:09:15pm |
re: #1195 cenotaphium
'sall good. Me and Racer X have had a sort of competition going for the last couple of years. Springing bizarre and absurd (mostly music) videos on each other in a kind of "Rick Roll'd" fashion.
We entertain each other.
| 1234 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:10:04pm |
re: #1229 Racer X
You really are pathetic tonight. Not sure what is up your ass, but it stinks.
'You really would be more comfortable over at the stalker site?' Ha! you might as well whimper "get outta my room or I'm telling daddy!"
Go have an upper colonic.
| 1235 |
Racer X Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:10:29pm |
re: #1218 albusteve
bizarre...I've never seen it, but I don't think that song went far up the charts
Sorry man, I was pulling your leg. Prank video.
| 1236 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:10:31pm |
re: #1219 WindUpBird
They're also not a big fan of cults! (waves to Scientology)
I am a big fan of The Cult.
| 1237 |
cliffster Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:11:17pm |
re: #1229 Racer X
You really are pathetic tonight. Not sure what is up your ass, but it stinks.
'You really would be more comfortable over at the stalker site?' Ha! you might as well whimper "get outta my room or I'm telling daddy!"
Two words: beer
| 1238 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:11:18pm |
re: #1233 Slumbering Behemoth
'sall good. Me and Racer X have had a sort of competition going for the last couple of years. Springing bizarre and absurd (mostly music) videos on each other in a kind of "Rick Roll'd" fashion.
We entertain each other.
I've been kinda nostalgic for a rickroll...
| 1239 |
albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:11:39pm |
re: #1228 Cato the Elder
Was it a Hamas rooster, and the international press made a big deal out of his suffering, and PETA got into the game?
No, I don't remember, but I can imagine.
he was an IDF black ops rooster...spotting bad guys from various undisclosed rooftops, using a small beak held laser
| 1240 |
Racer X Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:11:48pm |
| 1241 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:12:04pm |
Can someone name this song? (sorry, I can only remember a few lyrics)
Since then, I never looked back
But Ooh, I love you.
Ever since then, it's almost like living a dream. Ooh, I want you
| 1242 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:12:14pm |
re: #1206 Killgore Trout
He's VERY good looking in person. Meryl Streep, not so much.
| 1243 |
NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:12:20pm |
| 1244 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:12:34pm |
re: #1241 Cannadian Club Akbar
Can someone name this song? (sorry, I can only remember a few lyrics)
Since then, I never looked back
But Ooh, I love you.
Ever since then, it's almost like living a dream. Ooh, I want you
You'll have to hum it . . .
| 1245 |
keloyd Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:12:48pm |
re: #1150 WindUpBird
There's some good points in there, but I'd still rather you two drink until you like each other, and then make your case with a stack of links and patient logic. Demonstrate that gay couples who are 'married' (or civil unioned or whatever) are as monogamous as straight couples, then find stuff from European countries where grown up adults, adopted by gays in the past, generally turn out right.
I'm still personally dubious about the effect on a kid's psychology if there's not both male and female role models in the house all the time. Look at kids who grew up without dads - there's lots of damage. With girls, that's where lots of strippers come from. Do kids need just 2 stable adults? a mom doing 'mom' stuff and a dad doing 'dad' stuff? I have no idea, and pundits won't make my mind up. Gimme links to grownup scientists doing research. (I may not look at it tonight, because only hippies, musicians, and the criminal element are awake this late, but I will check back manana)
Churchill pointed out once that democracy sometimes means two lions and a gazelle taking a vote on what's for dinner.
| 1246 |
Racer X Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:12:52pm |
| 1247 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:12:55pm |
| 1248 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:13:54pm |
re: #1227 Killgore Trout
There is a difference. Indian culture is surely fucked up and backwards from a Western perspective. There are certainly extremists. However, they aren't plotting terrorist attacks on the West and unlike the Muslim world, they have a prosperous and increasingly modern society of their own.
Yes, that's the difference. But that's the key here. We'd ignore honor killing the way we ignore bride burning if we were not in conflict with elements inside the Muslim world. And clearly, savage culturally-sourced brutality toward women is NOT necessarily a factor in whether a culture is hostile to the West or not.
All I ask for is honesty.
| 1249 |
Jadespring Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:14:15pm |
re: #1241 Cannadian Club Akbar
Can someone name this song? (sorry, I can only remember a few lyrics)
Since then, I never looked back
But Ooh, I love you.
Ever since then, it's almost like living a dream. Ooh, I want you
Climax Blues Band
No I have no idea who they are. I used google.
| 1250 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:14:26pm |
re: #1213 SanFranciscoZionist
The Gaza Rooster. When we were watching Operation Cast Lead on the webfeed, there was this rooster...Cato, you remember the rooster, don't you?
Nothing would happen for HOURS, then the rooster would crow. Then nothing, again, as we waited to see what would happen. The the Israeli's would drop a bomb & an ammo dump would blow. Kaboom! Then nothing, for a long time, the the rooster.
He was great!
| 1251 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:14:32pm |
| 1252 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:14:49pm |
re: #1228 Cato the Elder
Was it a Hamas rooster, and the international press made a big deal out of his suffering, and PETA got into the game?
No, I don't remember, but I can imagine.
No, we could just hear him on the webfeed, crowing, and he became a celebrity on LGF.
We believe he may have been a Mossad agent, actually.
| 1253 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:15:10pm |
| 1254 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:15:21pm |
| 1255 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:15:34pm |
One of my libtard friends just sent me a link to Chomsky's latest excretions.
My reply:
"Chomsky will get another look from me when he stops ritualistically hatin' on Israel. In other words, not in my lifetime."
| 1256 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:16:02pm |
Heh, here's what's funny. A true democracy is a tyranny of the majority.
I am both happy and grateful to have been born a citizen of a representative republic.
America. Fuck yeah.
| 1257 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:16:10pm |
| 1258 |
keloyd Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:16:11pm |
re: #1212 NJDhockeyfan
Germany has laws against denying the Holocaust. It's a huge sore spot in their history. I can understand it.
Ah, there's a good exception. That restriction is smart move in Germany, even when it occasionally restricts video game sales or there are other minor unintended inconveniences. The UK? nah.
| 1259 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:16:17pm |
re: #1245 keloyd
There's some good points in there, but I'd still rather you two drink until you like each other, and then make your case with a stack of links and patient logic. Demonstrate that gay couples who are 'married' (or civil unioned or whatever) are as monogamous as straight couples, then find stuff from European countries where grown up adults, adopted by gays in the past, generally turn out right.
I'm still personally dubious about the effect on a kid's psychology if there's not both male and female role models in the house all the time. Look at kids who grew up without dads - there's lots of damage. With girls, that's where lots of strippers come from. Do kids need just 2 stable adults? a mom doing 'mom' stuff and a dad doing 'dad' stuff? I have no idea, and pundits won't make my mind up. Gimme links to grownup scientists doing research. (I may not look at it tonight, because only hippies, musicians, and the criminal element are awake this late, but I will check back manana)
Churchill pointed out once that democracy sometimes means two lions and a gazelle taking a vote on what's for dinner.
My husband was raised by two women. He turned out fairly normal, and leaves his socks on the floor for me to pick up like a regular male.
| 1260 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:16:21pm |
re: #1250 Floral Giraffe
Nothing would happen for HOURS, then the rooster would crow. Then nothing, again, as we waited to see what would happen. The the Israeli's would drop a bomb & an ammo dump would blow. Kaboom! Then nothing, for a long time, the the rooster.
He was great!
We sat up all night long, listening for that Rooster.
LOL.
Actually, I found it quite fascinating that we could sit here, at home in our PJ's on the other side of the world, and watch the action in real time. Pretty amazing.
| 1261 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:16:46pm |
re: #1245 keloyd
It's Friday night, fun is being had. And you drop this? WHA?
UGH
There's some good points in there, but I'd still rather you two drink until you like each other, and then make your case with a stack of links and patient logic. Demonstrate that gay couples who are 'married' (or civil unioned or whatever) are as monogamous as straight couples, then find stuff from European countries where grown up adults, adopted by gays in the past, generally turn out right.
| 1262 |
cenotaphium Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:17:53pm |
re: #1233 Slumbering Behemoth
'sall good. Me and Racer X have had a sort of competition going for the last couple of years. Springing bizarre and absurd (mostly music) videos on each other in a kind of "Rick Roll'd" fashion.
We entertain each other.
I approve of this tradition! I'll be sure to watch for more seemingly innocuous video links from you two.. :)
I just have to recommend this Cracked video mashup of a Glade ad and the ICP vid: Miracle of Air Fresheners.. before we all try to scrub our minds from the meme..
| 1263 |
albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:17:58pm |
re: #1253 reine.de.tout
Yeah, just found it.
[Video]
disregard the 'Blues' part of the name....Climax Pop Band would be more accurate
| 1264 |
Jadespring Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:18:26pm |
re: #1258 keloyd
Ah, there's a good exception. That restriction is smart move in Germany, even when it occasionally restricts video game sales or there are other minor unintended inconveniences. The UK? nah.
His fine came from a German court though so it has nothing to do with the UK.
| 1265 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:18:45pm |
re: #1263 albusteve
disregard the 'Blues' part of the name...Climax Pop Band would be more accurate
Still a good song. Just sayin".
| 1266 |
researchok Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:19:06pm |
re: #1255 Cato the Elder
One of my libtard friends just sent me a link to Chomsky's latest excretions.
My reply:
"Chomsky will get another look from me when he stops ritualistically hatin' on Israel. In other words, not in my lifetime."
What can you say about a guy whose best friend in Norman Finklestein?
Seriously.
| 1268 |
albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:20:44pm |
re: #1265 Cannadian Club Akbar
Still a good song. Just sayin".
in he immortal words of Lowell George...."my ears are too sweet now"
I'm glad you like it, but I'm from another planet musically
| 1269 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:20:48pm |
re: #1260 reine.de.tout
We sat up all night long, listening for that Rooster.
LOL.
Actually, I found it quite fascinating that we could sit here, at home in our PJ's on the other side of the world, and watch the action in real time. Pretty amazing.
Yes, it was amazing & fascinating.
We're such fools, we could have been sleeping!
| 1270 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:20:52pm |
re: #1245 keloyd
I'm still personally dubious about the effect on a kid's psychology if there's not both male and female role models in the house all the time.
I can understand. You're the guy who came in here talking about "my boy" Pat Buchanan and the reasons why we should give his fascist ass a new hearing.
Take your scar tissue and peddle it elsewhere.
| 1271 |
Racer X Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:22:38pm |
| 1272 |
keloyd Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:22:58pm |
re: #1261 Stanley Sea
It's Friday night, fun is being had. And you drop this? WHA?
UGH
You took me a bit out of context, or the context that I intended. My point was if you want to make the case for gay adoption - first demonstrate the marriages are just as good, then demonstrate the kids raised by two women or men turn out the same. I'm not saying I disagree, I am saying it is a point that deserves a citation if youre convincing someone who disagrees.
and with that, it's way past my bedtime, later taters
| 1273 |
researchok Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:23:12pm |
| 1274 |
albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:23:14pm |
| 1275 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:23:19pm |
re: #1268 albusteve
in he immortal words of Lowell George..."my ears are too sweet now"
I'm glad you like it, but I'm from another planet musically
I grew up on Iron Maiden, Floyd, Rush and Zep. So maybe we are. But I bechya! we are close.
| 1276 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:23:55pm |
| 1277 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:23:57pm |
So, my daughter just spent 3 days at LSU, orientation for next year, testing, etc., and walked away with 20 semester hours of credit from the testing.
And she got registered for her classes for next year, animal science, biology, math, a couple of labs, and for fun, music appreciation. I'm not sure why she doesn't have an English class, she hasn't come down from her cloud long enough yet for me to find out.
Dorm assignment has been made, meal plan selected, she's set to go!
| 1278 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:24:26pm |
| 1280 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:25:22pm |
| 1281 |
Gus Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:25:24pm |
re: #1245 keloyd
There's some good points in there, but I'd still rather you two drink until you like each other, and then make your case with a stack of links and patient logic. Demonstrate that gay couples who are 'married' (or civil unioned or whatever) are as monogamous as straight couples, then find stuff from European countries where grown up adults, adopted by gays in the past, generally turn out right.
I'm still personally dubious about the effect on a kid's psychology if there's not both male and female role models in the house all the time. Look at kids who grew up without dads - there's lots of damage. With girls, that's where lots of strippers come from. Do kids need just 2 stable adults? a mom doing 'mom' stuff and a dad doing 'dad' stuff? I have no idea, and pundits won't make my mind up. Gimme links to grownup scientists doing research. (I may not look at it tonight, because only hippies, musicians, and the criminal element are awake this late, but I will check back manana)
Churchill pointed out once that democracy sometimes means two lions and a gazelle taking a vote on what's for dinner.
Yes, the kid's psychology. You want the government (irony there) sticking their noses into family business then you might want to consider what happens in heterosexual families: alcoholism, physical and sexual abuse, psychological abuse, drug abuse, etc. Your notion assumes that these won't be present in heterosexual parents when in fact they are and in some cases in greater numbers.
| 1282 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:26:05pm |
re: #1277 reine.de.tout
So, my daughter just spent 3 days at LSU, orientation for next year, testing, etc., and walked away with 20 semester hours of credit from the testing.
And she got registered for her classes for next year, animal science, biology, math, a couple of labs, and for fun, music appreciation. I'm not sure why she doesn't have an English class, she hasn't come down from her cloud long enough yet for me to find out.
Dorm assignment has been made, meal plan selected, she's set to go!
Mazal tov. I know this is rough on you, watching her start flying solo, but she is la princesse.de.tout, and she will be great.
| 1283 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:27:03pm |
re: #1272 keloyd
You took me a bit out of context, or the context that I intended. My point was if you want to make the case for gay adoption - first demonstrate the marriages are just as good, then demonstrate the kids raised by two women or men turn out the same. I'm not saying I disagree, I am saying it is a point that deserves a citation if youre convincing someone who disagrees.
and with that, it's way past my bedtime, later taters
People are people. No differentiation needed. Your statement comes from bigotry. (but you are gone, so oh well.)
We have to fight this crazy battle
| 1284 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:28:02pm |
re: #1282 SanFranciscoZionist
Mazal tov. I know this is rough on you, watching her start flying solo, but she is la princesse.de.tout, and she will be great.
Great name. But she has to register just like the rest of us.:)
| 1285 |
cenotaphium Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:28:06pm |
re: #1245 keloyd
I'm still personally dubious about the effect on a kid's psychology if there's not both male and female role models in the house all the time. Look at kids who grew up without dads - there's lots of damage. With girls, that's where lots of strippers come from. Do kids need just 2 stable adults?
What the shit?
Look, until we start legislating that all heterosexual relationships are forever locked together in the same household, this argument isn't worth much. It's far better to grow up with two positive same sex rolemodels than 2 heterosexual child abusers, no? Or than with one single parent below the poverty line? The "what's best for the kids" argument could be extended to exclude parenting rights for *everyone* not from a stable two-parent household, middle class or better in a good neighbourhood.
Personally, that line sounds either poorly thought out, or outright bigoted.
| 1286 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:28:11pm |
re: #1282 SanFranciscoZionist
Mazal tov. I know this is rough on you, watching her start flying solo, but she is la princesse.de.tout, and she will be great.
:-)
Yes.
She'll be fine, and actually, I've enjoyed watching her blossom over the past year, she's on a good path, on her way to being a productive independent member of society. It's an amazing thing to watch happen. YOU must know this.
| 1287 |
keloyd Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:29:33pm |
re: #1270 Cato the Elder
I can understand. You're the guy who came in here talking about "my boy" Pat Buchanan and the reasons why we should give his fascist ass a new hearing.
Take your scar tissue and peddle it elsewhere.
An honest and rational reading of whatever I said months ago is nothing like that. I referred to "my boy Pat" in an utterly tongue in cheek manner, probably a few times. If STrom Thurmond came up, I may call him "my boy Strom" also obviously tongue in cheek - obvious unless youre itching for a fight. I admit that was a poorly worded bit of text, so what I was thinking, and what others perceived didn't sync up perfectly. Still, why do you dredge up OT stuff from months in the past? You have been unusually angry lately, none of my business why, but I hope you get right soon. I'm not debating you on this.
| 1288 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:29:47pm |
re: #1286 reine.de.tout
:-)
Yes.
She'll be fine, and actually, I've enjoyed watching her blossom over the past year, she's on a good path, on her way to being a productive independent member of society. It's an amazing thing to watch happen. YOU must know this.
SFZ wants to kill her study hall class on Fridays. Shhh.
/
| 1289 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:31:07pm |
re: #1288 Cannadian Club Akbar
SFZ wants to kill her study hall class on Fridays. Shhh.
/
Today was Service Day, so I got to take them all to a church in Rodeo and have them landscape instead. It was very relaxing.
| 1290 |
albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:31:42pm |
I would not want to grow up from a child into manhood with a legacy of two lesbian mothers for parents....but that's just me
| 1291 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:32:04pm |
re: #1289 SanFranciscoZionist
Today was Service Day, so I got to take them all to a church in Rodeo and have them landscape instead. It was very relaxing.
All the reason, next week, you're screwed.
| 1292 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:32:23pm |
re: #1277 reine.de.tout
So, my daughter just spent 3 days at LSU, orientation for next year, testing, etc., and walked away with 20 semester hours of credit from the testing.
And she got registered for her classes for next year, animal science, biology, math, a couple of labs, and for fun, music appreciation. I'm not sure why she doesn't have an English class, she hasn't come down from her cloud long enough yet for me to find out.
Dorm assignment has been made, meal plan selected, she's set to go!
HOORAY!
| 1293 |
Gus Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:32:44pm |
re: #1290 albusteve
I would not want to grow up from a child into manhood with a legacy of two lesbian mothers for parents...but that's just me
If you were raised by two lesbian mothers that you love you would feel different.
| 1294 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:32:49pm |
re: #1289 SanFranciscoZionist
Today was Service Day, so I got to take them all to a church in Rodeo and have them landscape instead. It was very relaxing.
Don't tell Glenn Beck. It was part of our 'Social Just Ass' learning program.
| 1295 |
researchok Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:32:57pm |
re: #1286 reine.de.tout
:-)
Yes.
She'll be fine, and actually, I've enjoyed watching her blossom over the past year, she's on a good path, on her way to being a productive independent member of society. It's an amazing thing to watch happen. YOU must know this.
I know exactly how you feel, in a dad kind of way.
| 1296 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:33:08pm |
re: #1282 SanFranciscoZionist
Mazal tov. I know this is rough on you, watching her start flying solo, but she is la princesse.de.tout, and she will be great.
Yes, you are more than good! You are excellent!
| 1297 |
albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:34:45pm |
re: #1290 albusteve
I would not want to grow up from a child into manhood with a legacy of two lesbian mothers for parents...but that's just me
they might not approve of my musical tastes....
| 1298 |
albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:35:27pm |
re: #1293 Gus 802
If you were raised by two lesbian mothers that you love you would feel different.
I'm sure of that....too different I think
| 1299 |
bratwurst Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:35:58pm |
re: #1219 WindUpBird
They're also not a big fan of cults! (waves to Scientology)
I have told the anecdote before that while working freelance as a teacher in Germany I frequently had to sign a "Scientology clause" in my contracts stating I would not use Dianetics "technology" in my classroom!
| 1300 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:36:20pm |
re: #1285 cenotaphium
Don't you get it? Queers are diff'rent than normal folk. Besides, if you let them adopt children, it's only a matter of time before cats and dogs can legally adopt human children. Is that what you want?
It's a slippery slope, my friend. A slippery slope indeed.
/lubricated with the tears of homophobes
| 1301 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:36:42pm |
I am out. Tomorrow I have to do Manly things: Chlorine for the pool. Meat shears for work. And the new Sade CD. Nighty. Wait, What?
/night ya'll!!
| 1302 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:38:56pm |
re: #1290 albusteve
I would not want to grow up from a child into manhood with a legacy of two lesbian mothers for parents...but that's just me
I want to down ding you, but I didn't because you are being honest.
But you have no idea how you would turn out in that circumstance. No idea. Geeze, maybe it would be just fine? (and sad to say, normal)
| 1303 |
Gus Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:39:07pm |
re: #1298 albusteve
I'm sure of that...too different I think
People are different. Each one for the most part are unique. There is not a single model of behavior for either lesbians or straights. So when one says "lesbian parents" that can include any variety of human behaviors and social patterns.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:40:16pm |
re: #1299 bratwurst
I have told the anecdote before that while working freelance as a teacher in Germany I frequently had to sign a "Scientology clause" in my contracts stating I would not use Dianetics "technology" in my classroom!
My father taught one semester at a Christian college. They made him sign a very involved pledge that said he would not, among other things, practice homosexuality or witchcraft.
Seeing as my father has no interest in either, it was an easy sell, but he still thought it was pretty weird.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:40:44pm |
re: #1300 Slumbering Behemoth
Don't you get it? Queers are diff'rent than normal folk. Besides, if you let them adopt children, it's only a matter of time before cats and dogs can legally adopt human children. Is that what you want?
It's a slippery slope, my friend. A slippery slope indeed.
/lubricated with the tears of homophobes
I wouldn't mind being raised by dogs.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:42:19pm |
re: #1305 SanFranciscoZionist
I wouldn't mind being raised by dogs.
We'd know our place a bit better!
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Gus Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:42:38pm |
re: #1305 SanFranciscoZionist
I wouldn't mind being raised by dogs.
Then I would have an excuse for barking in my apartment.
//
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:43:16pm |
re: #1287 keloyd
You have been unusually angry lately, none of my business why, but I hope you get right soon.
You have never even seen me anywhere approaching angry. When you do, you'll know it.
I'm not debating you on this.
Well, a good night's sleep for me, then.
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albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:43:28pm |
re: #1303 Gus 802
People are different. Each one for the most part are unique. There is not a single model of behavior for either lesbians or straights. So when one says "lesbian parents" that can include any variety of human behaviors and social patterns.
I worshipped my father and looking back cannot see my life richer without his influence or comanionship
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:43:34pm |
re: #1305 SanFranciscoZionist
I wouldn't mind being raised by dogs.
You would learn how to lick your own balls.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:44:09pm |
re: #1310 NJDhockeyfan
You would learn how to lick your own balls.
That would be a challenge for me. For reasons of both flexibility and availability.
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albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:44:26pm |
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cenotaphium Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:44:30pm |
re: #1300 Slumbering Behemoth
It's a slippery slope, my friend. A slippery slope indeed.
/lubricated with the tears of homophobes
I LOL'd. (Also at the other link earlier.) I guess it would be even funnier if it wasn't so close to the truth of "sippery slope" arguments. :/
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:44:54pm |
re: #1294 SanFranciscoZionist
Don't tell Glenn Beck. It was part of our 'Social Just Ass' learning program.
Ass as in the high-school dictum, it all only comes down to just ass?
Yay popularity contests! The basis of our "democracy"!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:45:16pm |
re: #1305 SanFranciscoZionist
I wouldn't mind being raised by dogs.
Maybe I wouldn't either, if they could teach me that whole "licking your own crotch" trick. That would certainly save me a lot of money.
Don't think I'd be at all keen with the "How to Win Friends and Influence Canines: Butt-Sniffing 101" classes, though.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:45:16pm |
re: #1312 albusteve
I assumed you were...silly me
Well, there was a German shepherd-wolf mix who had a lot of influence on me in my teen years...
...I've actually considered the possibility of naming a son after our family dog. How weird is that?
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bratwurst Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:45:24pm |
re: #1304 SanFranciscoZionist
My father taught one semester at a Christian college. They made him sign a very involved pledge that said he would not, among other things, practice homosexuality or witchcraft.
Seeing as my father has no interest in either, it was an easy sell, but he still thought it was pretty weird.
The first time I saw such a contract my German was not very good yet...when I came across the paragraph marked "Scientology Erklärung" I was thinking to myself "what in the WORLD could this be about?!?!?!"
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:46:00pm |
re: #1314 Cato the Elder
Ass as in the high-school dictum, it all only comes down to just ass?
Yay popularity contests! The basis of our "democracy"!
There was this sign on the slideshow yesterday...
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:46:42pm |
Just for fun.
Bollywood song!
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Gus Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:46:49pm |
re: #1309 albusteve
I worshipped my father and looking back cannot see my life richer without his influence or comanionship
That's good and that what I'm saying or less. The bottom line is to have parents that are good people. If in the end the children can cherish the memories of their parents (and influence) then they (the parents) will have been successful.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:47:20pm |
re: #1315 Slumbering Behemoth
Maybe I wouldn't either, if they could teach me that whole "licking your own crotch" trick. That would certainly save me a lot of money.
Don't think I'd be at all keen with the "How to Win Friends and Influence Canines: Butt-Sniffing 101" classes, though.
Leg humping would help you find new friends.
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albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:47:25pm |
re: #1316 SanFranciscoZionist
Well, there was a German shepherd-wolf mix who had a lot of influence on me in my teen years...
...I've actually considered the possibility of naming a son after our family dog. How weird is that?
Rover?....I like it
Rin Tin Tin?...not so much
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cenotaphium Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:47:56pm |
re: #1309 albusteve
I worshipped my father and looking back cannot see my life richer without his influence or comanionship
I got a defective model myself. I didn't get another mother, or even replacement fathers, but perhaps he did give me an insight into this particular problem, since I turned out okay without a strong male rolemodel.
/Now excuse me while I put on some stockings..
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:49:15pm |
re: #1318 SanFranciscoZionist
There was this sign on the slideshow yesterday...
Sarah Palin is at heart the high-school grrrl who was told that with her cute ass and nice face, plus her hockey skills, and maybe a few tactical blow-jobs along the way, she could be anything she wanted, and screw academics or brains.
She believed it, and look where we are today.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:51:34pm |
re: #1324 Cato the Elder
She believed it, and look where we are today.
Oh... I fucking knew it! You're Todd Palin. It's so obvious now.
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lostlakehiker Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:52:25pm |
re: #805 researchok
Eye yeah fal a yokel
re: #182 tradewind
Gawdamighty, I hope that the simplest explanation is the correct one... that he meant ' don't ignore warnings of danger and carry on as if there were none'. I would really, really hate to think that he meant to attach any disdainful or mean-spirited motive to such a tragedy. If he misspoke, it sucks, and I would expect he would acknowledge it. Otherwise, damn.
In any case, it doesn't sound like a well thought out thing to say no matter what.
Beck was right as to the merits of what is smart and what is dumb. It's dumb to sit there waiting to get hit. It's dumb to mutely bow to a fate you don't have to suffer, simply through inertia and an unwillingness to face some brutal facts.
It's dumb to sit there in a hijacked plane and not fight. Win or lose, you die. But if you fight, at least you die fighting and just maybe you save a few thousand other people.
Decent, intelligent-under-normal circumstances people do dumb things all too often. We have to steel ourselves ahead of time to recognize when circumstances are decidedly not normal, so that we can act on our healthy and rational fear and face danger and probable death with a clear head and resolute will.
Making this point is not an insult to the memory of those who hadn't so steeled themselves. It's just a point to remember. When the chips are down and it's do or die time, DO SOMETHING.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:52:33pm |
OK SFZ, what's the dog's name? inquiring minds want to know.
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albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:53:28pm |
re: #1320 Gus 802
That's good and that what I'm saying or less. The bottom line is to have parents that are good people. If in the end the children can cherish the memories of their parents (and influence) then they (the parents) will have been successful.
whatever....sounds dreamy, but children need both a father and a mother ideally...manufactured family structures with same sex parents turns me off...it has yet understood far reaching repercussions as we are now seeing after a couple of generations of welfare, single parent kids with no fathers...a lot of uncharted turf out there...and first I guess we start by redefining parents eh?....your mothers lesbian mate is not a parent as far as I'm concerned
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:54:47pm |
Apropos of gay couples raising children, many years ago Roberta Achtenberg was running for mayor of San Francisco (she lost), and my father was trying to persuade a friend to vote for her. Said friend was grumbling about how she was a. too liberal and b. a lesbian.
My father, in the process of recounting all of Achtenberg's qualities, pointed out that 'she's a mom! She'll understand the needs of parents because she's raising her son in the city!'
"Yeah?" snarls the friend. "Where'd she get HIM?"
"Bob, you're a doctor," my father replied. "Do I really need to explain where babies come from?"
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:55:35pm |
re: #1327 Stanley Sea
OK SFZ, what's the dog's name? inquiring minds want to know.
We called him Nato, after the alliance, but I thought we could maybe turn that into Nathan.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:57:18pm |
re: #1331 SanFranciscoZionist
We called him Nato, after the alliance, but I thought we could maybe turn that into Nathan.
That's not really even close. So go for it!
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:57:44pm |
re: #1328 albusteve
whatever...sounds dreamy, but children need both a father and a mother ideally...manufactured family structures with same sex parents turns me off...it has yet understood far reaching repercussions as we are now seeing after a couple of generations of welfare, single parent kids with no fathers...a lot of uncharted turf out there...and first I guess we start by redefining parents eh?...your mothers lesbian mate is not a parent as far as I'm concerned
As far as I'm concerned, you're insulting my in-laws, and many fantastic parents I know.
| 1334 |
Bagua Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:57:48pm |
Myself I was raised by normal parents, but chose to hang with the wolves and howl at the moon. It's something in the blood, there's no accounting for it.
Still, Drunk, Still Crazy, and Still Blue
- Scott H. Biram
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:58:03pm |
re: #1328 albusteve
Hi Steve, I hope you are doing well?
Purple People Eaters & all!
How's the new grandkid?
And when do you get to meet him?
Roadtrip?
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Gus Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:58:04pm |
The Amazing Atheist on gay adoption.
A little hard edged and for a younger audience but he makes some excellent points.
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albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:58:22pm |
re: #1333 SanFranciscoZionist
As far as I'm concerned, you're insulting my in-laws, and many fantastic parents I know.
how so?
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:59:03pm |
re: #1331 SanFranciscoZionist
You know, I could imagine you researching about 200 books for a name. You are pretty quick if you've already decided.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:59:57pm |
re: #1328 albusteve
whatever...sounds dreamy, but children need both a father and a mother ideally...manufactured family structures with same sex parents turns me off...it has yet understood far reaching repercussions as we are now seeing after a couple of generations of welfare, single parent kids with no fathers...a lot of uncharted turf out there...and first I guess we start by redefining parents eh?...your mothers lesbian mate is not a parent as far as I'm concerned
I'm pretty much completely rejecting the notion that a committed gay couple = single parent with no father. Divorced parents with visitation? We work with that. Stepparents? As old as time. Grandparents raising kids when they have to? That's cool. Gay parents? HOLD ON AMERICA, WHAT, YOU THINK YOU HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS OH NO NO SIR SCANDALOUS AND SHOCKING
But whatever, this is my generation that's gonna be raising kids now, us Xers see no problem with it, and we're inheriting this shit. It really doesn't matter what you think about my queer friends with kids, it's their kids, and you have no say in the matter. The definition of time itself is "uncharted turf."
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:00:17pm |
re: #1336 Gus 802
The Amazing Atheist on gay adoption.
[Video]A little hard edged and for a younger audience but he makes some excellent points.
Is that his famous "puppies" speech?
Sorry, I didn't watch.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:00:20pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:00:33pm |
re: #1326 lostlakehiker
Beck was right as to the merits of what is smart and what is dumb.
You lost me with that very first sentence. Really. If I may dredge up this old thing again:
"Birchers suck. People who promote Birchers suck. Glenn Beck promotes Birchers. Ipso facto, Glenn Beck sucks."
He's the FNC's version of an acceptable senoJ xelA. If he said the sky was blue, I would have to go outside and double-check for myself. Because I have a tendency to completely disregard the words of screaming, crying, conspiracy mongers.
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Gus Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:00:43pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:00:47pm |
re: #1338 Stanley Sea
You know, I could imagine you researching about 200 books for a name. You are pretty quick if you've already decided.
I don't know. We have a name picked for a potential daughter, but we're still musing over possibilities for boys.
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albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:01:03pm |
re: #1335 Floral Giraffe
Hi Steve, I hope you are doing well?
Purple People Eaters & all!
How's the new grandkid?
And when do you get to meet him?
Roadtrip?
I leave Monday morning for a drive north with my older sis and her husband, three days up...big fun is soon come...my ex wife and two kids will be together for the first time in almost six years...we got all spread out
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Mark Pennington Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:01:14pm |
re: #1320 Gus 802
That's good and that what I'm saying or less. The bottom line is to have parents that are good people. If in the end the children can cherish the memories of their parents (and influence) then they (the parents) will have been successful.
One of my closest friends is a lesbian and has a son who is a fantastic and happy kid. I'm going to be a new father in 7 months and I hope to be as amazing a parent as she is.
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windhorse Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:02:00pm |
directed at no one in particular....
I'd like to thank my ex-wife for taking off with the first guy who appeared to know how to order a martini......
/
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:02:35pm |
re: #1347 windhorse
directed at no one in particular...
I'd like to thank my ex-wife for taking off with the first guy who appeared to know how to order a martini...
/
Shouldn't you thank him for appearing to know how to order a martini?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:03:18pm |
re: #1304 SanFranciscoZionist
My father taught one semester at a Christian college. They made him sign a very involved pledge that said he would not, among other things, practice homosexuality or witchcraft.
Seeing as my father has no interest in either, it was an easy sell, but he still thought it was pretty weird.
WITCHCRAAA..AAA...AAAAAFT
Did he also have to sign a pledge promising he wouldn't levitate or shove swords into a box he put his nubile young assistant into? :D
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Gus Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:04:54pm |
re: #1346 beekiller
One of my closest friends is a lesbian and has a son who is a fantastic and happy kid. I'm going to be a new father in 7 months and I hope to be as amazing a parent as she is.
My ex-gf's friend was raising a child with her parther. Not by adoption -- they had a surrogate father. My cousin has two kids now and the kids have two fathers and one mother both under the same roof. He lives in San Francisco. No problems that I heard of whatsoever.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:05:28pm |
You know what I think?
Everybody loves kids!
Especially our nearest genetically!
Seriously, I have none, but my sisters are the best, brightest things that walk this earth!
Steve's grandson is the same.
SFV's yet to be birthed, will be OUTSTANDING.
I think it's some wierod programme we got at birth.
Kids are teh kewl!
Babies rocketh!
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:06:03pm |
re: #1349 WindUpBird
WITCHCRAAA..AAA...AAAFT
Did he also have to sign a pledge promising he wouldn't levitate or shove swords into a box he put his nubile young assistant into? :D
There was a whole lot of stuff on the list.
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albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:06:10pm |
re: #1339 WindUpBird
I'm pretty much completely rejecting the notion that a committed gay couple = single parent with no father. Divorced parents with visitation? We work with that. Stepparents? As old as time. Grandparents raising kids when they have to? That's cool. Gay parents? HOLD ON AMERICA, WHAT, YOU THINK YOU HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS OH NO NO SIR SCANDALOUS AND SHOCKING
But whatever, this is my generation that's gonna be raising kids now, us Xers see no problem with it, and we're inheriting this shit. It really doesn't matter what you think about my queer friends with kids, it's their kids, and you have no say in the matter. The definition of time itself is "uncharted turf."
far out...I'm not suggesting to impose my will on anybody...it doesn't matter what anybody thinks...individuals do what the need to, and I have not suggested otherwise...I prefer a dad rather than two moms
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:06:25pm |
re: #1344 SanFranciscoZionist
I don't know. We have a name picked for a potential daughter, but we're still musing over possibilities for boys.
haha, when you mentioned the dog, I though Rex. I knew a Rex in school. It wasn't pretty for him. (The Far Side was happening then, Rex was every dog.)
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Mark Pennington Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:06:25pm |
re: #1351 Gus 802
My ex-gf's friend was raising a child with her parther. Not by adoption -- they had a surrogate father. My cousin has two kids now and the kids have two fathers and one mother both under the same roof. He lives in San Francisco. No problems that I heard of whatsoever.
Why would there be? *shrug*
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windhorse Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:06:26pm |
re: #1352 Floral Giraffe
....as long as martinis are not important...
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:07:08pm |
re: #1352 Floral Giraffe
You know what I think?
Everybody loves kids!
Especially our nearest genetically!
Seriously, I have none, but my sisters are the best, brightest things that walk this earth!
Steve's grandson is the same.
SFV's yet to be birthed, will be OUTSTANDING.
I think it's some wierod programme we got at birth.
Kids are teh kewl!
Babies rocketh!
My brother and his wife have a kid now, and oh man am I looking forward to being the crazy uncle.
"Today, nephew...today you will learn what it is to break the speed limit."
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Varek Raith Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:07:25pm |
re: #1352 Floral Giraffe
You know what I think?
Everybody loves kids!
Especially our nearest genetically!
Seriously, I have none, but my sisters are the best, brightest things that walk this earth!
Steve's grandson is the same.
SFV's yet to be birthed, will be OUTSTANDING.
I think it's some wierod programme we got at birth.
Kids are teh kewl!
Babies rocketh!
I don't like kids...
:P
:P
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albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:07:33pm |
re: #1341 SanFranciscoZionist
"Your mother's lesbian mate is not a parent."
I should have split that hair...
my mothers lesbian mate is not a parent...paperwork aside
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:07:49pm |
re: #1325 Slumbering Behemoth
Oh... I fucking knew it! You're Todd Palin. It's so obvious now.
Of course I am. Kudos for figuring it out. ("Kudos" is a wrrrd I lerned from mye wifes's advisors. They say yew can nevver go wrong with it.)
I'm here as a plant to keap an eye on you peeple.
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Gus Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:07:56pm |
re: #1356 beekiller
Why would there be? *shrug*
Oh, just after listening about what Mike Huckabee had to say. The same old meme we here over and over again from the extremists.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:08:25pm |
re: #1352 Floral Giraffe
You know what I think?
Everybody loves kids!
Especially our nearest genetically!
Seriously, I have none, but my sisters are the best, brightest things that walk this earth!
Steve's grandson is the same.
SFV's yet to be birthed, will be OUTSTANDING.
I think it's some wierod programme we got at birth.
Kids are teh kewl!
Babies rocketh!
One of our science teachers just had his first child. He brought the baby into work a couple days ago, so he could talk to the principal about taking some time off.
Oh. My. God.
I ovulated spontaneously.
The baby is Scottish and Persian, and was two weeks early. He is still a little less than seven pounds. I have never seen such a little baby.
Absolutely cute.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:08:41pm |
As it seems to be the topic of discussion, I feel compelled to link this:
Penn and Teller: Bullshit - Family Values
This conservative tends to agree with their assessments more often than not.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:08:58pm |
re: #1358 WindUpBird
My brother and his wife have a kid now, and oh man am I looking forward to being the crazy uncle.
"Today, nephew...today you will learn what it is to break the speed limit."
Crazy Aunt or Uncle is the best. PLUS you get to really talk to the kids when they need help & aren't comfortable going to their parents.
I'm the crazy Aunt! Bwahaha!
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:09:17pm |
re: #1360 albusteve
I should have split that hair...
my mothers lesbian mate is not a parent...paperwork aside
What does that mean?
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:10:03pm |
re: #1363 SanFranciscoZionist
One of our science teachers just had his first child. He brought the baby into work a couple days ago, so he could talk to the principal about taking some time off.
Oh. My. God.
I ovulated spontaneously.
The baby is Scottish and Persian, and was two weeks early. He is still a little less than seven pounds. I have never seen such a little baby.
Absolutely cute.
Cheers (I guess!)
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:10:23pm |
re: #1359 Varek Raith
It's mutual.
If you like them, they like you.
And, vice versa.
Heck, they're gonna be changing my diapers when I get Alzheimers, I gotta give them some fun, while I can!
///
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Gus Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:10:42pm |
re: #1365 Floral Giraffe
Crazy Aunt or Uncle is the best. PLUS you get to really talk to the kids when they need help & aren't comfortable going to their parents.
I'm the crazy Aunt! Bwahaha!
I never got close to my aunts or uncles. I'm carrying on the tradition. Not that I like it.
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albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:10:48pm |
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Gus Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:11:57pm |
re: #1364 Slumbering Behemoth
As it seems to be the topic of discussion, I feel compelled to link this:
Penn and Teller: Bullshit - Family Values
This conservative tends to agree with their assessments more often than not.
"The hunter-gatherer caveman argument!"
/
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:12:39pm |
re: #1369 Gus 802
I never got close to my aunts or uncles. I'm carrying on the tradition. Not that I like it.
There is still time!
(And the adoption hours are limited!)
But, well, family.
That's blood.
You do NOT get to pick!
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:13:31pm |
It's been a fun night. Thanks to WUB for my Raising Arizona memories. I'm gonna rewatch tomorrow.
Have a great night all!
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Bagua Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:13:32pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:13:46pm |
re: #1354 albusteve
far out...I'm not suggesting to impose my will on anybody...it doesn't matter what anybody thinks...individuals do what the need to, and I have not suggested otherwise...I prefer a dad rather than two moms
the thing is there's a billion different configurations of families, why single gays out?
There's mom and dad, but dad's away on business 9 months of the year. There's mom and grandma. There's adad and granddad. There's mom and dad, but mom has cerebal palsy. There's mom and dad and aunt.
I just don't like this idealization of the nuclear traditional Pleasantville family unit, when it's a fiction, it's not what's real. Many of my friends were from broken families, they all did fine, a couple of them were from gay families, also did fine. Traditional families? Also did fine. The important thing is that they're good parents who care about their chidlren.
The friends of mine with truly bad upbringings, it had nothing to do with their family unit makeup and everything to do with the fact that they were abused by the drunk parent, or gay in Georgia and got kicked out of the house by the bible-thumping crazy hick father at 15. (and then went on to earn $150,000+ a year at Google, occasionally sending smug letters to said father about how his hick ass can die in a fire)
So while I a have no problem with the traditional family unit, it's silly to think that's the only good way to raise a kid.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:15:50pm |
re: #1375 WindUpBird
Anybody who CARES about the kid, can raise a good kid.
And the important part, is that they care about the kid.
Nothing else is more important.
NOTHING.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:15:55pm |
re: #1360 albusteve
I should have split that hair...
my mothers lesbian mate is not a parent...paperwork aside
if she's helping raise the kid as part of the family unit, she's a parent. if she's in a committed relationship with another woman, and they have kids together, she's a parent! Simple as that. No politics, if she's getting up at 6am cooking them breakfast and telling them to stop playing damn video games after dark and making sure they get in 2 hours of homework before bed? That's a parent.
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Mark Pennington Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:16:49pm |
We had an ice cream truck drive by the house today, playing a tinny calliope version of "The Entertainer" over the speakers. I ran outside like a little kid and bought ice-cream. I asked the guy if that song drove him nuts playing constantly. It would drive me nuts for sure!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:17:12pm |
re: #1341 SanFranciscoZionist
"Your mother's lesbian mate is not a parent."
I was once told by a blood relative that my mother's adoptive parents (my maternal grandparents) were not really my family, not really my grandparents. The notion is abhorrent.
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sngnsgt Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:18:29pm |
re: #2 Dreggas
OT but for todays dose of cute, animals love the IPad
Had to quote this so others can see it. I'm waiting for a pet shop here in town to get some kittens so I can pick one out, this is just too cute. Looks like a good excuse to buy a new I-Pad to me. ///
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cenotaphium Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:19:37pm |
re: #1328 albusteve
whatever...sounds dreamy, but children need both a father and a mother ideally...manufactured family structures with same sex parents turns me off...it has yet understood far reaching repercussions as we are now seeing after a couple of generations of welfare, single parent kids with no fathers...a lot of uncharted turf out there...and first I guess we start by redefining parents eh?...your mothers lesbian mate is not a parent as far as I'm concerned
You honestly think that the nuclear family structure isn't a "manufactured family structure"? Just in the generation before mine it was normal to have an entire community of caretakers in a child's life - grandparents living under the same room, everyone contributing as well they could. This is virtually nonexistent today.
Now, it'd be easy to say that the shared workload of the earlier family structure was preferable to the isolated "send the kids to kindergarten, because we need two incomes" lifestyle that seems to be the norm right now. It would be insanity to suggest that all two parent, or even single parent households should be legally barred from parenthood.
The arguments levied against homosexual parents are extremely weasily, turning a blind eye to the wider, legitimate question of what a fit parent is, to suggest that homosexuals as a class of people are unfit. What's "best for the children", what's "natural", these are good questions for which the answer is not automagically "one mother, one father".
"Redefining parent" is something I've been keen to do a long time. I'd like it to mean a "sane, responsible adult".
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albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:20:37pm |
re: #1375 WindUpBird
the thing is there's a billion different configurations of families, why single gays out?
There's mom and dad, but dad's away on business 9 months of the year. There's mom and grandma. There's adad and granddad. There's mom and dad, but mom has cerebal palsy. There's mom and dad and aunt.
I just don't like this idealization of the nuclear traditional Pleasantville family unit, when it's a fiction, it's not what's real. Many of my friends were from broken families, they all did fine, a couple of them were from gay families, also did fine. Traditional families? Also did fine. The important thing is that they're good parents who care about their chidlren.
The friends of mine with truly bad upbringings, it had nothing to do with their family unit makeup and everything to do with the fact that they were abused by the drunk parent, or gay in Georgia and got kicked out of the house by the bible-thumping crazy hick father at 15. (and then went on to earn $150,000+ a year at Google, occasionally sending smug letters to said father about how his hick ass can die in a fire)
So while I a have no problem with the traditional family unit, it's silly to think that's the only good way to raise a kid.
I never said there is only one best traditional way to raise a child, regardless of this windy post...I said as a male I would not have wanted a mother and her gay lover for parents...it's not an indictment against anybody else like SFZ tried to bend it...I'm speaking for myself, pretty simple...I much prefer a father
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Varek Raith Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:20:54pm |
re: #1380 sngnsgt
Had to quote this so others can see it. I'm waiting for a pet shop here in town to get some kittens so I can pick one out, this is just too cute. Looks like a good excuse to buy a new I-Pad to me. ///
Lol, my cat would knock it off the table, look at me, then laugh.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:21:05pm |
re: #1379 Slumbering Behemoth
I was once told by a blood relative that my mother's adoptive parents (my maternal grandparents) were not really my family, not really my grandparents. The notion is abhorrent.
My father's father was not part of our family when I was growing up. My grandma's second husband was grandpa to me and my cousins. I may not have his Cherokee cheekbones (worse luck), but he was my grandfather in every sense that really counts.
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Obdicut Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:21:49pm |
Anyone who doesn't think two gay people can make good parents for kids is a moron.
Anyone who wants to prevent them from having a kid because it might not be the best possible outcome for the kid should also prevent poor people, people with inheritable illnesses, and stupid people from having kids.
That argument makes no fucking sense and is a pretty damn thin veneer over an ugly, ugly accusation: that gay people are, in some manner, psychologically fucked up.
What they are, they are still not fully accepted by our society-- which is visible by people wanting to fucking question their fidelity before they let them have kids in a manner that would be unthinkable with heterosexual couples.
Any generally negative psychological traits in gay people-- such as a higher tendency for suicide-- are, Occam's razor, most easily explainable by their persecution, not some inherent defect.
That is all.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:22:05pm |
re: #1379 Slumbering Behemoth
I was once told by a blood relative that my mother's adoptive parents (my maternal grandparents) were not really my family, not really my grandparents. The notion is abhorrent.
Friend of mine was once THANKED by a cousin for coming to the funeral of a grandparent who wasn't her blood relation. "So nice of you to come all this way for OUR grandfather's funeral."
Out of respect for her grandma's feelings, she did not kill her cousin.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:22:52pm |
re: #1384 SanFranciscoZionist
My father's father was not part of our family when I was growing up. My grandma's second husband was grandpa to me and my cousins. I may not have his Cherokee cheekbones (worse luck), but he was my grandfather in every sense that really counts.
I'm sorry you didn't get those cheek bones.
The ones you did get, are really outstanding.
(Better than the ones you are wishing you'd gotten!)
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windhorse Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:23:15pm |
re: #1378 beekiller
......ahhhh grasshopper, what you don't know (but will soon) is that the man with the little truck and the loud music now has your neighborhood "marked". He will return and return and return....
You will become the music.
Welcome to the music!
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:23:43pm |
re: #1386 SanFranciscoZionist
Friend of mine was once THANKED by a cousin for coming to the funeral of a grandparent who wasn't her blood relation. "So nice of you to come all this way for OUR grandfather's funeral."
Out of respect for her grandma's feelings, she did not kill her cousin.
OMG.
That's my Sister's MIL.
To a tee.
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Obdicut Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:24:51pm |
re: #1388 windhorse
I just watched one of the animated Hellboys, and that fit right in.
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albusteve Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:25:11pm |
re: #1377 WindUpBird
if she's helping raise the kid as part of the family unit, she's a parent. if she's in a committed relationship with another woman, and they have kids together, she's a parent! Simple as that. No politics, if she's getting up at 6am cooking them breakfast and telling them to stop playing damn video games after dark and making sure they get in 2 hours of homework before bed? That's a parent.
I said we need to redefine parenthood...but we cannot redefine fatherhood, even tho children are deprived of fathers for various reasons, it's till the best paradigm imo
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:25:18pm |
re: #1388 windhorse
...ahhh grasshopper, what you don't know (but will soon) is that the man with the little truck and the loud music now has your neighborhood "marked". He will return and return and return...
You will become the music.
Welcome to the music!
Earworms.
Greensleeves, it's a small world.
I wish you all joy.
I get them twice a day, weekdays, all day on weekends.
I am DAMN NEAR IMMUNE to earworms.
It's the near part that hurts!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:26:56pm |
re: #1384 SanFranciscoZionist
And that's the point. It's not about adult sexual preferences, nor bloodlines, but about who loves you, and who does their best to raise you. That's what family is about. Not any fictional notions of biblical marriage, nor any hidebound notions of blood being thicker than water.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:27:05pm |
re: #1389 Floral Giraffe
OMG.
That's my Sister's MIL.
To a tee.
That was a fairly amazing funeral on all grounds--at three in the morning after the funeral, her sister's husband called--Hawaii to Utah--to confess, sobbing, and very drunk, that he'd had sex with a prostitute.
So we have Sister on the phone, and grieving Mormon grandma running down the stairs in her nightie. "Emily, is Josh all right?"
(Not when I get home.) "It's OK Grandma, Josh just forgot the time difference, he wanted to see how I was after the funeral. You just go back to sleep now!"
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Varek Raith Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:27:15pm |
re: #1388 windhorse
...ahhh grasshopper, what you don't know (but will soon) is that the man with the little truck and the loud music now has your neighborhood "marked". He will return and return and return...
You will become the music.
Welcome to the music!
Not if there's a well placed mine...
///
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cenotaphium Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:27:32pm |
re: #1386 SanFranciscoZionist
Friend of mine was once THANKED by a cousin for coming to the funeral of a grandparent who wasn't her blood relation. "So nice of you to come all this way for OUR grandfather's funeral."
Out of respect for her grandma's feelings, she did not kill her cousin.
Impressive restraint.
People who bring their issues to weddings and funerals are a special kind of asshole.
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Mark Pennington Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:27:35pm |
re: #1388 windhorse
...ahhh grasshopper, what you don't know (but will soon) is that the man with the little truck and the loud music now has your neighborhood "marked". He will return and return and return...
You will become the music.
Welcome to the music!
:D I'll hijack his truck and change the music to Tubular Bells or the 1812 Overture just to freak people out driving through the burbs.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:28:54pm |
OK, 4 posts to 7,000.
Shall I try to be witty?
Or, just get it over with?
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:29:15pm |
re: #1398 Floral Giraffe
OK, 4 posts to 7,000.
Shall I try to be witty?
Or, just get it over with?
Your call.
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Varek Raith Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:29:44pm |
re: #1398 Floral Giraffe
OK, 4 posts to 7,000.
Shall I try to be witty?
Or, just get it over with?
Order us a pizza.
:)
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:30:38pm |
re: #1399 SanFranciscoZionist
Your call.
I hate counting.
But, It's what I do best.
I think I'll turn in.
Unless someone wants to drop an icky thing in the punchbowl..
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:33:24pm |
re: #1386 SanFranciscoZionist
Forgive me, but I am not following. Who was outraged at who, and for what exactly?
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Obdicut Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:33:36pm |
re: #1401 Floral Giraffe
Okay, I"ll do it:
After the fourth rewatching, some Firefly episodes just aren't worth it.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:34:49pm |
re: #1401 Floral Giraffe
I hate counting.
But, It's what I do best.
I think I'll turn in.
Unless someone wants to drop an icky thing in the punchbowl..
I volunteer, if it'll get me a Manhattan.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:34:56pm |
I kinda just want to type
FUCK YEAH!
And be done with it.
But it's too early.
Can I do it twice?
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Varek Raith Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:35:19pm |
re: #1403 Obdicut
Okay, I"ll do it:
After the fourth rewatching, some Firefly episodes just aren't worth it.
BLASPHEMY!!111!111!
*Gets flamethrower*
:D
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:35:42pm |
re: #1404 Cato the Elder
I volunteer, if it'll get me a Manhattan.
It'll get you , your hearts desire.
Just sign here, please?
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:36:31pm |
re: #1402 Slumbering Behemoth
Forgive me, but I am not following. Who was outraged at who, and for what exactly?
It's YOUR FAULT!
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:36:48pm |
re: #1402 Slumbering Behemoth
Forgive me, but I am not following. Who was outraged at who, and for what exactly?
My friend was outraged at her cousin for suggesting that her (the friend's) stepgrandfather was less her grandpa than that of the cousin, whose blood relative he was.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:37:54pm |
re: #1405 Floral Giraffe
:The man named "Yeah" removes his hat and raises his hand:
"You can do it as many times as you're able ma'am, and I'd be much obliged".
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:37:59pm |
re: #1409 SanFranciscoZionist
My friend was outraged at her cousin for suggesting that her (the friend's) stepgrandfather was less her grandpa than that of the cousin, whose blood relative he was.
That makes my head hurt.
On a couple of levels.
Sorry you have to deal with that.
And keep track of it!
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Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:39:08pm |
re: #1403 Obdicut
Okay, I"ll do it:
After the fourth rewatching, some Firefly episodes just aren't worth it.
If it took you four rewatchings to figure that out, you're already a hopeless "Firefly" freak.
Judgment cometh soon, or not at all.
And name for me an extraneous episode. The story arc was just beginning when the company of Glenn Beck and Rupert Murderer pulled the plug. Given our limited understanding of the 'verse, which show(s) would you exclude?
I love 'em all.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:40:22pm |
re: #1409 SanFranciscoZionist
Ah, it was a case of sarcastic inflection, then. Quite classy at a funeral. I love it when people use misery to make a selfish point./
| 1414 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:40:40pm |
re: #1411 Floral Giraffe
That makes my head hurt.
On a couple of levels.
Sorry you have to deal with that.
And keep track of it!
Oh, it's no trouble. I quite enjoy keeping track of complex family feuds, especially when I have no divided loyalties.
| 1415 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:41:47pm |
Goodnight, Dear lizards.
Sleep tight.
Cato, don't let Haku bite!
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Varek Raith Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:43:14pm |
re: #1414 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh, it's no trouble. I quite enjoy keeping track of complex family feuds, especially when I have no divided loyalties.
Well, at least it's not a Vampire clan feud. Those are always fun. Centuries of repressed hate. Wheee!
:)
| 1417 |
Obdicut Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:44:10pm |
re: #1412 Cato the Elder
Judgment cometh soon, or not at all.
Oh, definitely not true. Not for Borges, not for Shakespeare, not for Bulgakov. Those works last forever, and you're never done with them.
Given our limited understanding of the 'verse, which show(s) would you exclude?
Exclude from what? I'm just saying after rewatching all of them four times, some of the episodes are no longer as enjoyable as they once were. Shindig is the one I had in mind; it's the most set-piece of any of them, with nobody acting contrary to type at any point or really revealing anything unknown about themselves.
| 1418 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:45:19pm |
re: #1414 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh, it's no trouble. I quite enjoy keeping track of complex family feuds, especially when I have no divided loyalties.
Damn right.
Which reminds me, LGF needs a Boswell. And not a disgruntled one like Gordon. (Forget the stalkers, they couldn't right an accurate history of "My Morning Dump" without polemicizing about John Galt and the hard-ons they get from contemplating cancelled USPS Ayn Rand stamps.)
I nominate you.
| 1419 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:48:16pm |
re: #1417 Obdicut
Exclude from what? I'm just saying after rewatching all of them four times, some of the episodes are no longer as enjoyable as they once were. Shindig is the one I had in mind; it's the most set-piece of any of them, with nobody acting contrary to type at any point or really revealing anything unknown about themselves.
Why, damn you for a misanthrope, good sir! That was the whole point of "Shindig".
But don't let it bother you. It took me ten viewings to really grok "Virgin Spring" by Ingmar Bergman.
Now I consider it his greatest movie ever.
| 1420 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:48:26pm |
re: #1418 Cato the Elder
Damn right.
Which reminds me, LGF needs a Boswell. And not a disgruntled one like Gordon. (Forget the stalkers, they couldn't right an accurate history of "My Morning Dump" without polemicizing about John Galt and the hard-ons they get from contemplating cancelled USPS Ayn Rand stamps.)
I nominate you.
Good Lord. What an offer.
| 1421 |
Obdicut Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:48:32pm |
re: #1418 Cato the Elder
Heh. I was just reading A Journey to the Hebrides. I'd forgotten on what a wide variety of subjects Johnson expressed himself.
| 1422 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:50:48pm |
re: #1418 Cato the Elder
ΠΙΜΦ: "write"
Although the solecism is not without merit: those tools couldn't right a table if it went off kilter.
| 1423 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:51:10pm |
I'm going to sleep.
Night all.
I shall consider my possible role as biographer of the nuthouse at length.
| 1424 |
Obdicut Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:51:30pm |
re: #1419 Cato the Elder
I don't think that's much of a whole point. Not every episode can be a perfect gem. Firefly is pretty amazingly consistent in quality, though, with most of them delivering a really interesting twist on perspective.
Hey, for anyone who likes off-beat, strange, but very-well acted crime procedural stuff, Da Vinci's Inquest, available on Hulu, is an excellent Canadian crime drama. It's very odd-- you often don't get real closure-- it's very dark, and it's very depressing at times, but it's a really wonderful show with people acting their hearts out.
| 1425 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:53:59pm |
re: #1421 Obdicut
Heh. I was just reading A Journey to the Hebrides. I'd forgotten on what a wide variety of subjects Johnson expressed himself.
His single best line was when Boswell told him that a cheeky philosopher had denied the existence of the real in favor of the unreal.
After we came out of the church, we stood talking for some time together of Bishop Berkeley's ingenious sophistry to prove the nonexistence of matter, and that every thing in the universe is merely ideal. I observed, that though we are satisfied his doctrine is not true, it is impossible to refute it. I never shall forget the alacrity with which Johnson answered, striking his foot with mighty force against a large stone, till he rebounded from it -- "I refute it thus."
| 1426 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:55:35pm |
re: #1424 Obdicut
Sounds like fun to me. I hate the very word "closure".
"I need closure," I screamed, so she obliged by slamming the door in my face.
| 1427 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Apr 16, 2010 11:56:29pm |
re: #1171 albusteve
no, it's actually timeless, even tho the meme meme is pretty worn out around here...imo of course
I've been using the term meme before I ever heard of LGF!
| 1428 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Apr 17, 2010 12:00:16am |
re: #1424 Obdicut
I don't think that's much of a whole point. Not every episode can be a perfect gem. Firefly is pretty amazingly consistent in quality, though, with most of them delivering a really interesting twist on perspective.
the most consistent show on television with regard to quality I have ever seen is the Venture Bros. 8-) After four or five or ten watching (yes, I'm obsessed) they just reveal themselves to be even more awesome. Tiny little details, plot bits that were put in there the way the devil plants dinosaur bones. :D
| 1431 |
Cato the Elder Sat, Apr 17, 2010 12:06:44am |
re: #1427 WindUpBird
I've been using the term meme before I ever heard of LGF!
Well ain't you just memetically speshul! Can you cite the Greek root whence it stems?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Apr 17, 2010 12:18:09am |
re: #1431 Cato the Elder
Well ain't you just memetically speshul! Can you cite the Greek root whence it stems?
I totally cannot! Though I wikied it, and I'm curious if it shows up:
μιμητισμός
Awesome!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Apr 17, 2010 12:18:50am |
re: #1433 WindUpBird
I totally cannot! Though I wikied it, and I'm curious if it shows up:
μιμητι&# x03C3;μός
Awesome!
I'm pretty sure that's not the original greek
| 1435 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Apr 17, 2010 12:19:25am |
I'm out. Gonna spend a few minutes in City 17, throwing soda cans at the Combine. Laters.
| 1436 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Apr 17, 2010 12:19:26am |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Apr 17, 2010 12:20:15am |
re: #1435 Slumbering Behemoth
I'm out. Gonna spend a few minutes in City 17, throwing soda cans at the Combine. Laters.
HAHAHAHAHAHAH YES
"Pick that up."
"Fuck you."
"No, fuck you."
"Remember freeman! OW OW OW STOP"
| 1438 |
Cato the Elder Sat, Apr 17, 2010 12:34:09am |
re: #1433 WindUpBird
I totally cannot! Though I wikied it, and I'm curious if it shows up:
μιμητισμό&si gmaf;
Awesome!
Don't feel bad. I hate that I can't do real Greek or Russian on LGF.
| 1439 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Apr 17, 2010 12:42:10am |
re: #1438 Cato the Elder
Don't feel bad. I hate that I can't do real Greek or Russian on LGF.
Let's see if Unicode smileys work: ☺ ☻
| 1440 |
ryannon Sat, Apr 17, 2010 12:57:11am |
re: #1047 SanFranciscoZionist
You apparently also missed all the family annihilators in the U.S. before that, to judge from your last "ROPMA" post.
The Muslim world has some effed up stuff going on, no doubt. But they are not unique in that.
| 1441 |
ryannon Sat, Apr 17, 2010 1:16:11am |
re: #1440 ryannon
Sorry, my 'puter hiccupped and I messed up this post.
I wanted to add that by and large, we're equal-opportunity critics of disgusting human behavior wherever and by whomever it occurs. Not necessarily grammatical, but generally true at LGF.
As for the Cato-Mandy situation, I don't like to see this at all. It's over the top, accomplishing nothing and metaphorically, it's starting to remind me of a guy beating up on a woman in public. It should simply not be permitted, no matter how much an individual Lizard disagrees, misinterprets or goes looking for trouble with what she's posted. Were she really some sort of wingnut Manchurian Candidate, Charles would have dealt with her long ago. As a Lizard in good standing - not to mention a human being she deserves a minimum of respect. If you don't agree with her fine, but it should be left at that. Until such a time as Mandy - or anyone else proves that they simply shouldn't be posting here and are removed by Charles, there's a level of insulting rhetoric which should never be breached.
| 1442 |
ryannon Sat, Apr 17, 2010 1:28:26am |
re: #1441 ryannon
Replying to my own reply in the ensuing silence, I might as well add that the aforementioned 'level of rhetoric that should not be breached' absolutely cheapens the forum and its participants. It's crude, primitive and it's sole purpose is to drive what has become th designated victim of a one-man campaign for ideological purity out of the charmed circle of LGF. It's on the same level as attempting to 'out' Mandy as an Zionist agent, Muslim fundamentalist or whatever on the sort of forums that most of us avoid.
First they (he, actually) came for Mandy, but I said nothing....
I mean, what the fuck, people?
| 1443 |
Cato the Elder Sat, Apr 17, 2010 1:29:18am |
re: #1441 ryannon
When someone posts that democracy is fucked because a judge overturned a homophobic "law" passed by the "people", I'm going to call it like I see it.
Mandy is an asshole.
End of story.
| 1444 |
ryannon Sat, Apr 17, 2010 1:34:12am |
As far as I'm concerned, it's not the end of the story - nor will it be as long as this continues.
Cato, I'd defend you in exactly the same way.
I understand your reaction to what you believe Mandy has said, but I also believe that you've gone over the top in the expression of the issue(s) you have with her.
It's simply not befitting of a man like you, and would be totally unacceptable from whatever quarter it came.
| 1445 |
Cato the Elder Sat, Apr 17, 2010 1:40:03am |
re: #1444 ryannon
Your opinion.
Mine: Mandy has been stealth-teabagging this blog ever since I can remember. If I used inappropriate language, what of it? She is the mistress of rope-pissing and telling other people to go have sexual congress with themselves. Her act is tiresome, and tonight she finally outed herself as a homophobe.
Did I overreact?
Maybe.
I make no apology. She can go do to herself what she steadily recommends to others.
| 1446 |
windsagio Sat, Apr 17, 2010 1:41:43am |
re: #1445 Cato the Elder
I should feel bad for her as a deeply damaged human being, but she makes it so hard >>
| 1447 |
ryannon Sat, Apr 17, 2010 1:46:42am |
Anyway, it's late for you and a bit early for me. In the name of the respect and affection that exists between us, please try and think this through.... None of us are perfect and all of us can be misinterpreted, misconstrued or simply judged. But for heaven's sake, let Charles wield the stick of justice and retribution, which is - and should remain - one of his prerogatives.
| 1448 |
Cato the Elder Sat, Apr 17, 2010 1:51:29am |
re: #1447 ryannon
Granted. I've said what I had to say, and there's an end on't.
| 1449 |
ryannon Sat, Apr 17, 2010 1:55:06am |
re: #1445 Cato the Elder
Your opinion.
Mine: Mandy has been stealth-teabagging this blog ever since I can remember. If I used inappropriate language, what of it? She is the mistress of rope-pissing and telling other people to go have sexual congress with themselves. Her act is tiresome, and tonight she finally outed herself as a homophobe.
Did I overreact?
Maybe.
I would not defend a racist, an anti-Semite or a homophobe. I would not want to see them posting on LGF either. There are many more appropriate forums for such beliefs. I do not think that Mandy is any of the aforementioned, which is why I'm attempting to reason with you.But let's leave it at that for the moment: I'm not looking to antagonize you.
I make no apology. She can go do to herself what she steadily recommends to others.
| 1450 |
windsagio Sat, Apr 17, 2010 1:55:53am |
re: #1447 ryannon
With all due respect, except for extreme cases this is a self-policing community.
One of the problems here is that with 'popular characters' nobody will call them out. This leads to a sense of ownership (or maybe entitlement) and abusive behavior.
| 1451 |
windsagio Sat, Apr 17, 2010 1:56:47am |
re: #1450 windsagio
err, tired so left something out. IF you say 'always leave stuff up to charles', behavior would never get changed... and that's likely the ultimate goal here.
| 1452 |
ryannon Sat, Apr 17, 2010 2:00:46am |
Oh poo - it might be a good idea if we all did to ourselves what we often recommend doing to others - a real learning process.
re: #1450 windsagio
With all due respect, except for extreme cases this is a self-policing community.
One of the problems here is that with 'popular characters' nobody will call them out. This leads to a sense of ownership (or maybe entitlement) and abusive behavior.
Yes, but there's a fine line between a self-policing community and vigilante justice.
And everyone gets called out here, which is fine. But here it's a question of the style and the manner.
| 1453 |
ryannon Sat, Apr 17, 2010 2:03:48am |
It's late and we're all tired. Let's sleep on it and leave it at that? Lots of future opportunities to hash or otherwise duke these questions out, but we all need to be in somewhat better shape....
| 1454 |
windsagio Sat, Apr 17, 2010 2:04:43am |
re: #1453 ryannon
I'm not only tired, I Have a sucking head wound.
But sure. Its just a subject I like to talk about, I hsould crash too >>
| 1455 |
ryannon Sat, Apr 17, 2010 2:05:58am |
Sincerely sorry to hear that. Get yourself some rest and healing-time.
And a very good night - or top of the morning to both of you guys.
| 1456 |
Cato the Elder Sat, Apr 17, 2010 2:12:53am |
re: #1452 ryannon
The post that Mandy responded to in her lapidary style with "Yeah - fuck democracy" was in regard to a judiciary ruling which stated that
Circuit Judge Chris Piazza ruled today that Act 1, an initiated act approved by voters in 2008 that bans any unmarried person living with a partner from serving as an adoptive parent, is unconstitutional, and amounts to an unwarranted invasion of privacy. Jerry Cox of the Family Council, the group who sponsored Act 1 and fought for its passage, called the decision "judicial tyranny" and says they plan to appeal the decision to the Arkansas Supreme Court.
Mandy's comment shows contempt for the judicial process and a belief that voters should be allowed to disallow rights that every American ought to enjoy. What she's saying is, "If you're unmarried and the voters take away your rights, and then some stupid judge comes along and restores them, well, yeah, 'fuck democracy' - the will of the idiots has been overturned, and fuck that. And my butt hurts."
That was what I was responding to.
If I overstepped some invisible boundary, sorry. It's now up to the Arkansas Supreme Court, after which I have no doubt it will go to SCOTUS.
Mandy's response was troglodytic, primitive, and based on nothing other than her evident hatred of same-sex couples.
Snip. Spit. Shit.
| 1457 |
ryannon Sat, Apr 17, 2010 2:24:14am |
The hardest thing to do is to have to prove what you're not.
Viz. the Salem Witch Trials.
Unless I'm mistaken, buried somewhere in this same thread is a post by Mandy clearly supporting the rights of same-sex couples. Please don't make me look for it right now?
| 1458 |
Cato the Elder Sat, Apr 17, 2010 2:25:30am |
re: #1457 ryannon
The hardest thing to do is to have to prove what you're not.
Viz. the Salem Witch Trials.
Unless I'm mistaken, buried somewhere in this same thread is a post by Mandy clearly supporting the rights of same-sex couples. Please don't make me look for it right now?
I shan't.
| 1459 |
Cato the Elder Sat, Apr 17, 2010 2:26:18am |
re: #1458 Cato the Elder
Not even though I think, if it exists, it's a feint on her part.
| 1460 |
The Left Sat, Apr 17, 2010 2:29:52am |
re: #1459 Cato the Elder
Not even though I think, if it exists, it's a feint on her part.
I don't know how else to interpret the "Fuck Democracy" comment.
| 1461 |
The Left Sat, Apr 17, 2010 2:33:33am |
re: #1422 Cato the Elder
ΠΙΜΦ: "write"
Although the solecism is not without merit: those tools couldn't right a table if it went off kilter.
This is more apt than you perhaps intended; I found a little wingnutty gem today that urges other wingnuts to "Turn this table 90 degrees".
Heh.
| 1462 |
ryannon Sat, Apr 17, 2010 2:35:14am |
I occasionally don't know how to interpret various other comments I see posted here. I generally give people the benefit of the doubt - or wait until the collective calling out for a further explanation.
If I'm still conscious when she logs on, I'll ask Mandy myself how she'd react if she discovered that The Kid has got teh ghey. Can't hit closer to home than that.
But perhaps as the clever, controlled and dissembling evil genius she is, she'll just throw some more pixie dust in our eyes....
| 1463 |
The Left Sat, Apr 17, 2010 2:37:02am |
re: #1442 ryannon
Replying to my own reply in the ensuing silence, I might as well add that the aforementioned 'level of rhetoric that should not be breached' absolutely cheapens the forum and its participants. It's crude, primitive and it's sole purpose is to drive what has become th designated victim of a one-man campaign for ideological purity out of the charmed circle of LGF. It's on the same level as attempting to 'out' Mandy as an Zionist agent, Muslim fundamentalist or whatever on the sort of forums that most of us avoid.
First they (he, actually) came for Mandy, but I said nothing...
I mean, what the fuck, people?
Sorry, this is bollocks. I can't really take your hand-wringing over poor, dear Mandy seriously, when she's being 'attacked' via legitimate criticisms--especially given that I don't recall you EVER calling Mandy out for any of the many times she's urged people here to 'get' someone-- including telling people to google the user nics of people she doesn't like-- for the terrible sin of being liberal.
| 1464 |
ryannon Sat, Apr 17, 2010 2:41:50am |
re: #1463 iceweasel
Like all (or most/many) of us - including Charles - Mandy is evolving in her own way and in her own sweet time. I detect a good person in her, and it's my nature to want to come to the defense of that possibility.
| 1466 |
The Left Sat, Apr 17, 2010 2:48:25am |
re: #1464 ryannon
Like all (or most/many) of us - including Charles - Mandy is evolving in her own way and in her own sweet time. I detect a good person in her, and it's my nature to want to come to the defense of that possibility.
Sure, I'll sign on for everyone having 'possibilities', being a lib and all.
Can only respond to what's put out there, though. That's how it works.
| 1467 |
ryannon Sat, Apr 17, 2010 3:00:53am |
What was also put out there was the idea of fucking Mandy with the shitty end of a stick. How does that response work for you as a woman?
| 1468 |
The Left Sat, Apr 17, 2010 3:08:18am |
re: #1467 ryannon
What was also put out there was the idea of fucking Mandy with the shitty end of a stick. How does that response work for you as a woman?
About as well as pissing up a rope-- being a woman and all.
Not words I would have used, for sure, but Cato was still right.
By the way, Mandy doesn't get automatic 'woman' points, especially given that she'll downding people she doesn't like --even when they're supporting her positions, and even when they're supporting her in particular. Her 'feminist' cred evaporates when she 'seekritly' downdings feminist posts in those situations-- and she does.
Fail.
| 1471 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Apr 17, 2010 5:29:14am |
re: #1386 SanFranciscoZionist
Friend of mine was once THANKED by a cousin for coming to the funeral of a grandparent who wasn't her blood relation. "So nice of you to come all this way for OUR grandfather's funeral."
Out of respect for her grandma's feelings, she did not kill her cousin.
Heh.
My own cousin thanked ME for coming to her mother's funeral with my mother (all of us blood related).
I couldn't help myself.
I reminder the cousing that the deceased was my own aunt, after all, and my mother's only sibling.
| 1472 |
Aye Pod Sat, Apr 17, 2010 8:35:04am |
re: #1447 ryannon
Anyway, it's late for you and a bit early for me. In the name of the respect and affection that exists between us, please try and think this through... None of us are perfect and all of us can be misinterpreted, misconstrued or simply judged. But for heaven's sake, let Charles wield the stick of justice and retribution, which is - and should remain - one of his prerogatives.
I don't think Mandy"Google their nicknames!" Manners agrees with you on that, somehow.
Not that you'd ever pick her up on something like that, of course.
| 1473 |
ryannon Sat, Apr 17, 2010 9:33:07am |
re: #1472 Jimmah
I don't think Mandy"Google their nicknames!" Manners agrees with you on that, somehow.
Not that you'd ever pick her up on something like that, of course.
I'd love it if you kept your runny Scottish nose out of this. And as for the gratuitous dig, here's a gratuitous go fuck yourself.
If you have the balls, why not clearly state why or what I wouldn't 'pick up on' concerning Mandy. Do you think I lack the intelligence, finesse or intellectual honesty to do so? Pray, tell the forum what you think and on what basis you justify your insinuations concerning what I'm capable or not of picking up on.
I was predisposed to accord you a minimum amount of courtesy, but having picked up on fact that you're more than ready to be a snarky little twit when it suits you, I'm taking off the gloves and addressing you like the pretentious wanker that you've just proved yourself to be.
| 1475 |
Aye Pod Sat, Apr 17, 2010 10:10:13am |
re: #1473 ryannon
I'd love it if you kept your runny Scottish nose out of this. And as for the gratuitous dig, here's a gratuitous go fuck yourself.
If you have the balls, why not clearly state why or what I wouldn't 'pick up on' concerning Mandy. Do you think I lack the intelligence, finesse or intellectual honesty to do so? Pray, tell the forum what you think and on what basis you justify your insinuations concerning what I'm capable or not of picking up on.
I was predisposed to accord you a minimum amount of courtesy, but having picked up on fact that you're more than ready to be a snarky little twit when it suits you, I'm taking off the gloves and addressing you like the pretentious wanker that you've just proved yourself to be.
You know, l thought all those months of posting cowardly, passive aggressive little comments to me and iceweasel indicated a massive, simmering butthurt - now we know for sure. It's not so much the gloves that have come off here as the mask.
As for 'having the balls to clearly state' what you wouldn't pick up concerning Mandy - I just did! Are you stupid or just completely blinded by anger? Anyway here it is again, fucktard, since the information apparently didn't make it through the cloud of rage currently occupying your cranium.
We are all familiar with Mandy's attempts to have liberal newbies run off LGF. "Google their nicknames" was a typical call to the wingnut brigade to dig up dirt on them. You never called her out on that or anything else like it. And there's been plenty of it. You are a partisan hypocrite, and I called you out on it.
Here's looking at you, moron:
| 1476 |
ryannon Sat, Apr 17, 2010 10:12:49am |
Well, at least you managed to spell 'moron' correctly. As for the rest, it defies commentary.
| 1477 |
The Left Sat, Apr 17, 2010 10:19:56am |
re: #1476 ryannon
Well, at least you managed to spell 'moron' correctly. As for the rest, it defies commentary.
In other words, you got nuthin'. Figures.
| 1478 |
ryannon Sat, Apr 17, 2010 10:20:58am |
Defies commetary except for this little gem:
"You know, l thought all those months of posting cowardly, passive aggressive little comments to me and iceweasel indicated a massive, simmering butthurt - now we know for sure. It's not so much the gloves that have come off here as the mask."
Since you've come onto the forum, I doubt if I've addressed you more than once or twice. With Iceweasel, somewhat more so, but probably no more than a dozen responses at best, and always courteous. Even after she made the colossal mistake of becoming involved with you.
It used to be that people would respond to posts like yours by suggesting that the person get back on his or her meds. It's not only old-hat these days, but in your case, obviously useless.
Can you say delusional?
| 1479 |
ryannon Sat, Apr 17, 2010 10:23:52am |
re: #1477 iceweasel
Ah, the call of the razor-toothed Iceweasel is heard upon the frozen steppes of The Dead Thread.
(Throws another log on the campfire).
| 1480 |
The Left Sat, Apr 17, 2010 10:33:42am |
re: #1478 ryannon
Even after she made the colossal mistake of becoming involved with you.
Goodness, this certainly looks like an example of personal commentary that doesn't belong here. I doubt you'd need to resort to it if you weren't already getting your ass so massively kicked. Classic passive aggressiveness and butthurt.
Oh, and as for that opinion of yours I just quoted? Go fuck yourself.
| 1481 |
The Left Sat, Apr 17, 2010 10:35:44am |
re: #1478 ryannon
With Iceweasel, somewhat more so, but probably no more than a dozen responses at best, and always courteous.
See, it's your capacity to make comments like this, right after the other ones and just before some other random insults, that qualifies you for the description 'delusional'.
| 1482 |
ryannon Sat, Apr 17, 2010 10:37:38am |
Umm. The masks are certainly coming off.
Since there's little else you can do, down-ding me with your hubby. Having little else going for you, you'll both feel better for it.
| 1483 |
ryannon Sat, Apr 17, 2010 10:40:18am |
re: #1481 iceweasel
See, it's your capacity to make comments like this, right after the other ones and just before some other random insults, that qualifies you for the description 'delusional'.
You literally don't know what you'e talking about. There's some kind of rational disconnect happening with you both. It's both fascinating and frightening at the same time.
| 1484 |
Aye Pod Sat, Apr 17, 2010 10:40:57am |
re: #1482 ryannon
Umm. The masks are certainly coming off.
Since there's little else you can do, down-ding me with your hubby. Having little else going for you, you'll both feel better for it.
Shit-stirring, butthurt whiner expects updings for launching personal attacks on us and our relationship. What's that word again? Oh yes- "delusional".
| 1485 |
ryannon Sat, Apr 17, 2010 10:43:11am |
re: #1484 Jimmah
I'd remind you that the initial 'personal attack' was yours, but you're both apparently so far gone that it would be useless.
Quite like the time I'm wasting even responding to your deliriums.
| 1486 |
Aye Pod Sat, Apr 17, 2010 10:43:36am |
re: #1483 ryannon
You literally don't know what you'e talking about. There's some kind of rational disconnect happening with you both. It's both fascinating and frightening at the same time.
Maybe if I were less civil toward you in future and started telling you to go fuck yourself and piss up a rope etc, you'd start to see the "good person" in me?
That's only if you're concerned with consistency of course, and we've already established that you are not.
| 1487 |
ryannon Sat, Apr 17, 2010 10:49:12am |
re: #1486 Jimmah
Maybe if I were less civil toward you in future and started telling you to go fuck yourself and piss up a rope etc, you'd start to see the "good person" in me?
That's only if you're concerned with consistency of course, and we've already established that you are not.
I'm quite sure that somewhere, deep down inside you, beyond the stale beer and deep-fried Mars Bars, there dwells a nice person. And were you capable of displaying it, I would take up your griefs as my own. As it stands, however, I feel obliged to sling mud at you for having slung one of your own little poo-balls at me.
It's the law of the schoolyard. You have been to school at some point in your life, haven't you?
| 1488 |
Aye Pod Sat, Apr 17, 2010 10:50:42am |
re: #1485 ryannon
I'd remind you that the initial 'personal attack' was yours, but you're both apparently so far gone that it would be useless.
Quite like the time I'm wasting even responding to your deliriums.
That wasn't a personal attack. I was however, criticising your hypocrisy regarding Mandy, a criticism you haven't even attempted to answer. Anyone can go take a look at my post, and then your reply and see where the nasty personal attacks came in.
But then personal attacks - to the point of full scale meltdown- and hilarious reading comprehension failures is all you have, apparently.
| 1489 |
Aye Pod Sat, Apr 17, 2010 10:53:37am |
re: #1487 ryannon
I'm quite sure that somewhere, deep down inside you, beyond the stale beer and deep-fried Mars Bars, there dwells a nice person. And were you capable of displaying it, I would take up your griefs as my own. As it stands, however, I feel obliged to sling mud at you for having slung one of your own little poo-balls at me.
It's the law of the schoolyard. You have been to school at some point in your life, haven't you?
You are having a total meltdown, dude.
| 1490 |
ryannon Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:03:48am |
re: #1488 Jimmah
Yes, I never quite learned how to read - and even less to reason. Nevertheless, if I truly thought that Miss Manners was as bad a person as you and several others have been saying, I would have no desire to defend her.
As for her actions towards you and iceweasel, I was never privy to them. In fact, I still have no idea what you're butthurting about. Whatever it is, I don't see how it me. I have no idea when this happened, under what circumstances it occurred - and even if it occurred at all. Which is to say that for me, you're talking about what amount to an invisible event.
What does concern me is what I have seen posted about her on this forum. What concerns me is the reaction of you and iceweasel towards me, and that's what I'm addressing.
But keep on sputtering - somewhere beyond the spittle I'm certain that you've got a point you're attempting to make.
| 1491 |
ryannon Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:19:30am |
I've got some shopping to do. I'll make it a point to pick up a nice package of Walkers Shortbread Cookies in honor of you and ice. In the meantime, you can down-ding this post, as you've done with all the others.
Gives you something to do with your hands - and keeps your fingers out of your nose. A winning proposition all around.
Cheers, mate.
| 1492 |
Aye Pod Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:22:06am |
re: #1490 ryannon
Yes, I never quite learned how to read - and even less to reason. Nevertheless, if I truly thought that Miss Manners was as bad a person as you and several others have been saying, I would have no desire to defend her.
As for her actions towards you and iceweasel, I was never privy to them. In fact, I still have no idea what you're butthurting about. Whatever it is, I don't see how it me. I have no idea when this happened, under what circumstances it occurred - and even if it occurred at all. Which is to say that for me, you're talking about what amount to an invisible event.
What does concern me is what I have seen posted about her on this forum. What concerns me is the reaction of you and iceweasel towards me, and that's what I'm addressing.
But keep on sputtering - somewhere beyond the spittle I'm certain that you've got a point you're attempting to make.
More misreading. With regard to Mandy, I said "new posters" - not me and iceweasel.
Whatever it is, I don't see how it me.
Sorry can you write in English please? My Teabonics is a bit rusty.
I already made my point about your concern about how people speak to Mandy and your corresponding disregard for standards of civility when Mandy is speaking to others. We now have to add to that the matter of your own complete disregard for such standards when it comes to how you address others:
I'd love it if you kept your runny Scottish nose out of this. And as for the gratuitous dig, here's a gratuitous go fuck yourself.
snarky little twit
pretentious wanker
colossal mistake of becoming involved with you
The point is, ryannon, that you are a complete hypocrite and your calls for civility regarding Mandy or yourself will henceforth be treated with the derision they deserve.
| 1493 |
Aye Pod Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:31:23am |
re: #1491 ryannon
I've got some shopping to do. I'll make it a point to pick up a nice package of Walkers Shortbread Cookies in honor of you and ice. In the meantime, you can down-ding this post, as you've done with all the others.
Gives you something to do with your hands - and keeps your fingers out of your nose. A winning proposition all around.
Cheers, mate.
Whining about downdinging for posting stuff like this:
I'd love it if you kept your runny Scottish nose out of this. And as for the gratuitous dig, here's a gratuitous go fuck yourself.
snarky little twit
pretentious wanker
colossal mistake of becoming involved with you
Class act aren't you ryannon?
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