We All Like Ham Now
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Make no mistake. Show up at a tea party with signs that say “I Like Ham,” and “Oy! My Bunions!” and you’ll get your ass kicked.
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Kragar Sat, Apr 17, 2010 10:56:14pm |
I don’t really care for ham much. Well, devilled ham, maybe, but thats it.
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Bagua Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:01:14pm |
I like it.
I will be appearing at the next Tea Party in my usual Butter Suit. I’ll need a volunteer to hold the video camera. Anyone?
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:01:50pm |
“Because I had on an enormous gay hat, this drew everyone’s attention…”
OK. I am willing to admit that this one is an infiltrator, although it is not clear to me whether he’s a liberal or not.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:02:59pm |
re: #1 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I don’t really care for ham much. Well, devilled ham, maybe, but thats it.
I miss ham. I’ve been pretty solidly quasi-kosher for a decade or so now. With a few notable slip-ups, the most notable slip-up involving a friend’s old-world Chinese parents and a huge plate of disgusting seafood dishes.
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albusteve Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:03:34pm |
I like ham
chops
bacon
ribs
pig is where it’s at
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:05:16pm |
re: #5 albusteve
I like ham
chops
bacon
ribs
pig is where it’s at
Oh yeah, like there’s one magical animal, that we get all this food from!
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Kragar Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:06:06pm |
re: #5 albusteve
I like ham
chops
bacon
ribs
pig is where it’s at
Oh, I enjoy bacon, ribs, carnitas, japanese roast pork, and many other variations, but just plain ham ham, I just don’t care for it.
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albusteve Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:06:26pm |
re: #4 SanFranciscoZionist
I miss ham. I’ve been pretty solidly quasi-kosher for a decade or so now. With a few notable slip-ups, the most notable slip-up involving a friend’s old-world Chinese parents and a huge plate of disgusting seafood dishes.
that’s cool…you can survive without pork
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:07:33pm |
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freetoken Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:07:51pm |
Too bad the sign didn’t say “I like spam”, and then have a troop of Vikings come by singing…
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albusteve Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:07:58pm |
re: #6 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh yeah, like there’s one magical animal, that we get all this food from!
the Mythical Pig…Swine Love
oink
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CuriousLurker Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:09:10pm |
re: #4 SanFranciscoZionist
I miss ham. I’ve been pretty solidly quasi-kosher for a decade or so now. With a few notable slip-ups, the most notable slip-up involving a friend’s old-world Chinese parents and a huge plate of disgusting seafood dishes.
We’ve got it pretty good in theses parts as there are a lot of American-born Muslims around here. There’s a halal store that sells turkey ham, beef bacon, beef pepperoni, and all kinds of American cuts of meat & chicken. Those are things I was never able to find in NYC because most of the halal butchers were in ethnic neighborhoods with their own taste preferences and ways of cutting meat.
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Velvet Elvis Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:10:44pm |
Sorry for going OT so soon but this is great:
Extramarital sex fuels earthquakes: Senior Iran cleric
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albusteve Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:11:04pm |
re: #7 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Oh, I enjoy bacon, ribs, carnitas, japanese roast pork, and many other variations, but just plain ham ham, I just don’t care for it.
without pigs, there would be no football….chew on that
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:11:18pm |
re: #12 CuriousLurker
We’ve got it pretty good in theses parts as there are a lot of American-born Muslims around here. There’s a halal store that sells turkey ham, beef bacon, beef pepperoni, and all kinds of American cuts of meat & chicken. Those are things I was never able to find in NYC because most of the halal butchers were in ethnic neighborhoods with their own taste preferences and ways of cutting meat.
Yeah, I find that’s the problem with a lot of kosher products. You’ll buy the cuts your grandmother bought, and you will LIKE it! And you will not whine about the incredible sodium levels!
Where are you living now?
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Kragar Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:11:28pm |
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Tiny alien kittens are watching you Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:12:47pm |
Your damn right Sarah, there should be NO government, no taxes, no socialism. Police, firefighters, public schools, hospitals, libraries, what have they ever done for me? I say to hell to all of that and let’s go back to the good old days when whoever had the biggest gang of armed thugs ruled!
Sure once all the busninesses have been looted and all the towns destroyed things will get a bit lean, but there will always be some other place, some other group of people trying to lift themselves out of anarchy that we can pillage!
/Go Sarah baby, we love you almost as much as we love luap nor!
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albusteve Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:13:29pm |
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CuriousLurker Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:14:28pm |
re: #16 SanFranciscoZionist
Where are you living now?
Jersey. I’d like be more specific, but…. some the LGF stalkers strike me as pretty unhinged, y’know?
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freetoken Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:15:36pm |
re: #14 Conservative Moonbat
Sorry for going OT so soon but this is great:
Extramarital sex fuels earthquakes: Senior Iran cleric
Wait… now I’m confused… I thought that washed-up self-help gurus meditating caused earthquakes…
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Kragar Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:15:39pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:15:39pm |
re: #20 CuriousLurker
Jersey. I’d like be more specific, but… some the LGF stalkers strike me as pretty unhinged, y’know?
They are. I wouldn’t recommend being any more specific than that myself!
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CuriousLurker Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:15:51pm |
re: #16 SanFranciscoZionist
Yeah, I find that’s the problem with a lot of kosher products. You’ll buy the cuts your grandmother bought, and you will LIKE it! And you will not whine about the incredible sodium levels!
LMAO :-D
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Tiny alien kittens are watching you Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:16:26pm |
re: #20 CuriousLurker
Jersey. I’d like be more specific, but… some the LGF stalkers strike me as pretty unhinged, y’know?
Naww…whatever would give you that idea?
/no details necessary
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Mark Pennington Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:16:27pm |
This is why I could never go to an event like this guy did. I’m not a violent person and I don’t have a bad temper but if you push or hit me…it’s ON.
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Bagua Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:17:22pm |
Pig is good, but I Like Turtles
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cenotaphium Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:19:21pm |
I’m curious - since the crashtheteaparty website turned out to be such a boon for the tea partiers, since they could effectively offload anything bad onto “leftist inflitrators”.. is it too soon to ask “cui bono” and suggest that the whole thing was actually an elaborate conspiracy originating from.. TEA PARTIERS?!
//
Although, this is pretty much the conspiracy feedback loop in a nutshell. Enter someone to suggest “that’s exactly what the leftists want you to think”..
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:19:42pm |
re: #26 beekiller
This is why I could never go to an event like this guy did. I’m not a violent person and I don’t have a bad temper but if you push or hit me…it’s ON.
Poor dude—clinging to his sign, as Sarah Palin ignores his plight…
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Velvet Elvis Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:20:47pm |
We need more anti tea party protesters who are trained ninjas.
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Mark Pennington Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:23:54pm |
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Tiny alien kittens are watching you Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:25:38pm |
re: #31 Conservative Moonbat
We need more anti tea party protesters who are trained ninjas.
Yep, then he could have just disappeared in a small cloud of colored smoke and reappeared somewhere else in the crowd, sign and all. ;)
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Kragar Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:25:57pm |
Saw an article a while back on how whole black pajama thing got identified as the ninja uniform. Has to do with Kabuki theater. It was pretty interesting.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:26:14pm |
re: #29 cenotaphium
I’m curious - since the crashtheteaparty website turned out to be such a boon for the tea partiers, since they could effectively offload anything bad onto “leftist inflitrators”.. is it too soon to ask “cui bono” and suggest that the whole thing was actually an elaborate conspiracy originating from.. TEA PARTIERS?!
//
Although, this is pretty much the conspiracy feedback loop in a nutshell. Enter someone to suggest “that’s exactly what the leftists want you to think”..
yeah, but nobody really believes all the crazy signs are by infiltrators except the crazies themselves ;-)
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albusteve Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:26:15pm |
re: #22 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Nope, a conservative football hater.
repent….football is life itself
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CuriousLurker Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:27:16pm |
re: #25 ausador
Naww…whatever would give you that idea?
/no details necessary
LOL, hey, I did my homework before signing up here! ;)
There are also appear to be quite a few members who never participate in discussions, but seem to be keen on posting lots of hairy links. At least that’s how the links come across to me.
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Kragar Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:30:46pm |
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Tiny alien kittens are watching you Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:35:58pm |
I think my party just forgot how to give a speech without the words “tax cuts” in there somewhere, after all they have been saying it non-stop for over 25 years. Of course a sane person might argue that that is exactly the last thing we need to do while fighting record deficits…but…uhh, they just don’t know how to say anything else anymore I guess?
/
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Mark Pennington Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:41:11pm |
Today, I was sitting on my back porch watching dragonflies wizz to and fro, and then more and more dragonflies come, and then more, and still more. And then a few of the dragonflies fly away. and the rest of the dragonflies all perch in a huge group, hundreds, thousands of dragonflies…blue, green, red, purple…all looking in the same direction. And then the few dragonflies that left come back, in formation, and fly very low turning in a unit barrel roll over the crowd of dragonflies who gasp and keep their compound eyes fixed on the flyover formation. And this goes on for a few minutes. And then four hummingbirds fly at the crowd from different directions, and just before they all collide, all the hummingbirds veer straight up and fly up, up, up until they are out of sight. And then a Cardinal, neck fully extended, glides in fast and low over the crowd and at the last minute tips backward and almost stops in mid-air directly over the dragonflies, and then recovers and flaps off… it sure was a pretty day. I hope yours was too.
Good night, Lizards.
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lazardo Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:44:10pm |
re: #36 albusteve
repent…football is life itself
Especially in Europe.
/oh wait, you mean American football.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:49:33pm |
re: #41 beekiller
Today, I was sitting on my back porch watching dragonflies wizz to and fro, and then more and more dragonflies come, and then more, and still more. And then a few of the dragonflies fly away. and the rest of the dragonflies all perch in a huge group, hundreds, thousands of dragonflies…blue, green, red, purple…all looking in the same direction. And then the few dragonflies that left come back, in formation, and fly very low turning in a unit barrel roll over the crowd of dragonflies who gasp and keep their compound eyes fixed on the flyover formation. And this goes on for a few minutes. And then four hummingbirds fly at the crowd from different directions, and just before they all collide, all the hummingbirds veer straight up and fly up, up, up until they are out of sight. And then a Cardinal, neck fully extended, glides in fast and low over the crowd and at the last minute tips backward and almost stops in mid-air directly over the dragonflies, and then recovers and flaps off… it sure was a pretty day. I hope yours was too.
Good night, Lizards.
We have blue dragonflies around my house. This time of year they’re all very busy mating and zipping around.
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Tiny alien kittens are watching you Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:54:08pm |
re: #41 beekiller
Today, I was sitting on my back porch watching dragonflies wizz to and fro, and then more and more dragonflies come, and then more, and still more. And then a few of the dragonflies fly away. and the rest of the dragonflies all perch in a huge group, hundreds, thousands of dragonflies…blue, green, red, purple…all looking in the same direction. And then the few dragonflies that left come back, in formation, and fly very low turning in a unit barrel roll over the crowd of dragonflies who gasp and keep their compound eyes fixed on the flyover formation. And this goes on for a few minutes. And then four hummingbirds fly at the crowd from different directions, and just before they all collide, all the hummingbirds veer straight up and fly up, up, up until they are out of sight. And then a Cardinal, neck fully extended, glides in fast and low over the crowd and at the last minute tips backward and almost stops in mid-air directly over the dragonflies, and then recovers and flaps off… it sure was a pretty day. I hope yours was too.
Good night, Lizards.
I want some of whatever he is taking…
/
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Kragar Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:54:18pm |
Played a really brutal game of 40k, then went to see Kick-Ass. Not a bad day overall.
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Tiny alien kittens are watching you Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:57:58pm |
re: #42 lazardo
Especially in Europe.
/oh wait, you mean American football.
Yes, the big guys in the giant plastic and padding armoured suits smashing into one another, not the quick little guys kicking the ball around pointlessly.
/
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CuriousLurker Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:58:16pm |
I’m outta here too. G’night all. *waves*
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Tiny alien kittens are watching you Sun, Apr 18, 2010 12:26:20am |
Ahh, gee, the poor nazi fascist white supremecists had a bad time at their rally in L.A.
Good thing (for them) the police were there to keep confrontations to a minimum. The only bad thing is now they will go home and whine about how they were persecuted and harassed, without ever giving the cops credit for keeping them from getting their asses kicked.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 18, 2010 12:38:40am |
re: #50 ausador
Ahh, gee, the poor nazi fascist white supremecists had a bad time at their rally in L.A.
[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com…]
Good thing (for them) the police were there to keep confrontations to a minimum. The only bad thing is now they will go home and whine about how they were persecuted and harassed, without ever giving the cops credit for keeping them from getting their asses kicked.
Ha! They kicked Nazi ass in Whitechapel in 1936, and in Los Angeles in 2010. You’d think sooner or later these assholes would get the message: we are not buying what they’re selling.
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teleskiguy Sun, Apr 18, 2010 1:09:15am |
Tea Party people are too uptight! They are engaging in a blatant silence of the hams!
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freetoken Sun, Apr 18, 2010 1:15:56am |
China should use more reserves to buy gold: researcher
Li Lianzhong, who heads the economic department of the Communist Party’s policy research office, said that Beijing should also encourage domestic enterprises to acquire foreign energy and natural resource assets by using part of the foreign exchange reserves. “We can also consider buying some more gold because if we want to develop the RMB into an international currency, we must have some scale of gold reserves,” Li told a forum in Beijing.
Aaackkk… communists say to BUY GOLD!!
When will Lew Rockwell and Ron Paul admit that they are on the same page as communists?
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Kragar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 1:18:00am |
re: #53 freetoken
China should use more reserves to buy gold: researcher
Aaackkk… communists say to BUY GOLD!!
When will Lew Rockwell and Ron Paul admit that they are on the same page as communists?
Jokes on them. We can still corner the hybrid seed market!
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cenotaphium Sun, Apr 18, 2010 2:00:52am |
re: #46 ausador
Yes, the big guys in the giant plastic and padding armoured suits smashing into one another, not the quick little guys kicking the ball around pointlessly.
/
I guess rugby comes out the winner as usual? None of the sissy hands-off policy in football, and none of the body armour in handegg..
//they see me trollin’
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lazardo Sun, Apr 18, 2010 2:16:02am |
re: #51 SanFranciscoZionist
Ha! They kicked Nazi ass in Whitechapel in 1936, and in Los Angeles in 2010. You’d think sooner or later these assholes would get the message: we are not buying what they’re selling.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sun, Apr 18, 2010 2:39:32am |
That the shirts aren’t brown doesn’t mean they’re not cut from the same cloth.
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cenotaphium Sun, Apr 18, 2010 2:41:00am |
Completely OT, but an update on the effects of the Islandic Smoke Monster - our local Swedish airfleets risk bankruptcy if the air travel remains suspended for more than a couple of weeks. I’d imagine the situation isn’t as bad, but dire elsewhere in Europe as well. Trade is also being affected, but won’t really suffer before this last more than a week. It does give some perspective on how reliant we are on air freight (or more accurately, how the system set up weighs heavily on this mode of transport).
Test flights are being made by several countries, apparently with good results (as in non-aircraft threatening, possible flight continuation).
Eurocontrol has some stats on the flight situation:
EUROCONTROL expects approximately 5,000 flights to take place today in European airspace. On a normal Saturday, we would expect 22,000. Yesterday, 16 April, there were 10,400 flights compared to the normal 28,000.
Mind you, that is a view of all of the European flights, including unaffected areas. Several zones are completely shut down.
Here’s a webcam pointed at the volcano (currently looking like rocks and mist).
Here’s Eruptions, a damn good blog about volcanism in general, currently with several posts on Eyjafjallajökull (before anyone asks - no, I can’t pronounce it either).
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sun, Apr 18, 2010 2:43:15am |
re: #59 cenotaphium
Completely OT, but an update on the effects of the Islandic Smoke Monster
You rang?
Image: 050207.jpg
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Cheese Eating Victory Monkey Sun, Apr 18, 2010 2:43:30am |
Request for future prank signs:
“Polyphenols are a Commie Conspiracy”
“Who farted?”
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Kragar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 2:47:27am |
re: #61 Cheese Eating Victory Monkey
Request for future prank signs:
“Polyphenols are a Commie Conspiracy”
“Who farted?”
“This sign intentionally left blank.”
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cenotaphium Sun, Apr 18, 2010 3:01:15am |
re: #59 cenotaphium
Islandic
..eh, or Icelandic, as you might say.
re: #60 negativ
You rang?
Image: 050207.jpg
Damn you, “Locke”! I liked O’Quinn so much better when he was this guy.
The moustache is crucial!
Ranting a bit on that topic - I liked Lost back in season 1. Then I accepted that the story had no real plan (shades of The X-Files & Millennium, maybe I’m just jaded at this point?). I’ve watched every damned episode anyway, but at this point it’s so damn convoluted that the only good way to end the show would be to pull a Sopranos. On that note..
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 3:26:46am |
“I like Ham” - as in son of Noah, who looked upon his father penis while sleeping and whose descendants were punished by leading a life of servitude?
Adds a whole other shade of meaning.
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freetoken Sun, Apr 18, 2010 3:28:57am |
re: #59 cenotaphium
Commercial airlines are always in financial trouble, it seems. Not a particularly good business.
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ryannon Sun, Apr 18, 2010 3:30:31am |
I see that neither Cato nor Mandy are posting (or even on the forum) this evening/morning. As for myself, I also feel pretty bummed out as well.
And all this because of what amounts to personality conflicts rather than real politics (which apparently amounts to the same thing).
Even if it’s virtual, LGF is a microcosm of the real world: people just can’t get it together these days: it’s all about more-liberal/conservative than thou, sekret gaie-haters, suspected Teabagger sympathizers and who said what to whom three months ago.
It’s the sound of silence here this morning. Pretty deafening.
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freetoken Sun, Apr 18, 2010 3:31:21am |
There is a newly released to DVD movie from 2009 called Ice Twisters.
If you have a chance to watch it… just skip it. Your brain will thank you.
It’s only redeeming quality is that one of the co-stars is the lovely Luisa D’Oliveira. Unfortunately her script is as lame as the rest of the movie.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:00:10am |
re: #66 ryannon
My boss is a Liberal and I am a conservative and we get along great. We debate shit and come up with a solution. Much like here. Good Morning Honcos!!
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:01:22am |
re: #68 Cannadian Club Akbar
Despite claims made by both sides, being a conservative or a liberal does not exempt one from being capable of rational and critical thinking.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:02:29am |
re: #69 ralphieboy
Despite claims made by both sides, being a conservative or a liberal does not exempt one from being capable of rational and critical thinking.
Yea? You don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about!!
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:04:14am |
That’s what I get for trying to discuss anything with a conservative!!!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:05:31am |
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Hengineer Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:08:07am |
oi….now she picked up some crappy something from some food she ate
mornin lizards!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:09:25am |
Oh, for the love of Pete. Some idiot mayor in Illinois is squawking about the Presidents nirth certifikit. I won’t link the story.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:12:11am |
I am drinking from a very fancy coffee cup. Not sure where it came from, but I think I like it.
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freetoken Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:15:03am |
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HoosierHoops Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:17:30am |
I’ve been watching Body of Lies since 6:30am
Intense cool movie
Good Morning Lizards
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:20:25am |
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freetoken Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:21:27am |
WND is claiming that Justice Thomas is hinting that he is a ‘nirther:
Justice Clarence Thomas: We’re ‘evading’ eligibility
Farah sure knows how to work a crowd.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:30:04am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:31:04am |
re: #85 Cannadian Club Akbar
A freakin’ no hitter yesterday. A twenty inning game that ended 2-1…
Sounds exciting… but for me… defensive struggles are like watching paint dry.
Just sayin…
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:31:43am |
re: #86 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You mean like watching soccer?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:32:01am |
re: #75 Cannadian Club Akbar
(that’s a urine specimen cup)
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:32:24am |
re: #86 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
A freakin’ no hitter yesterday. A twenty inning game that ended 2-1…
Sounds exciting… but for me… defensive struggles are like watching paint dry.
Just sayin…
A no no through 9 innings or a complete no no?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:32:28am |
re: #87 ralphieboy
You mean like watching soccer?
Oh, much more exciting than soccer tho… as is watching paint dry…
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:33:29am |
re: #89 Cannadian Club Akbar
A no no through 9 innings or a complete no no?
No hitter… first in Rockies franchise history. Ubaldo Jimenez
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:35:12am |
re: #91 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
No hitter… first in Rockies franchise history. Ubaldo Jimenez
Good for him. No hitters are great to watch. I even pulled for the Yankees last week when fat boy had a no no going into the 7th.
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Hengineer Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:35:19am |
re: #90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh, much more exciting than soccer tho… as is watching paint dry…
psh you’ve never truly appreciated the sport then.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:37:49am |
re: #93 Hengineer
psh you’ve never truly appreciated the sport then.
I tried watching the 1990 World Cup and nearly died of boredom. I just wait for them to play to a tie and then watch the penalty kicks, that part can be exciting to watch.
But then again, one does not go see the Cubs at Wrigley Field for the excitement: one goes there to enjoy the sun, the beer and the atmosphere.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:39:15am |
re: #95 ralphieboy
I tried watching the 1990 World Cup and nearly died of boredom. I just wait for them to play to a tie and then watch the penalty kicks, that part can be exciting to watch.
But then again, one does not go see the Cubs at Wrigley Field for the excitement: one goes there to enjoy the sun, the beer and the atmosphere.
I’ve seen the Cubs twice in Chicago…Awesome experience
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Hengineer Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:39:19am |
re: #95 ralphieboy
I tried watching the 1990 World Cup and nearly died of boredom. I just wait for them to play to a tie and then watch the penalty kicks, that part can be exciting to watch.
But then again, one does not go see the Cubs at Wrigley Field for the excitement: one goes there to enjoy the sun, the beer and the atmosphere.
I was at the CONCACAF Gold Cup Final this past year at Giants’ Stadium in Jersey. Despite USA’s lackluster finish of 0 goals to Mexico’s 5, it was an awesome experience.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:40:41am |
re: #94 Hengineer
I’m now the proud owner of a Motorola Droid.
ME TOO! GOT IT LAST WEEK!
(now, if I can just figure out how to answer the damn thing)
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:45:20am |
re: #97 Hengineer
I have a problem with league soccer play here in Europe: they have some points system by which it is often in both teams’ interest to play to a tie. I have watched games where each side has scored a goal and then they just stand on the ball and run out the clock.
Dead boring and, well, un-American!!!
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Hengineer Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:45:54am |
re: #99 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I’m an American, dammit!
So am I, but then so are everyone on the US Men’s and Women’s national teams.
As an American you should want us to dominate EVERY sport ever invented!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:46:30am |
I met a girl the other night. Is a hottie. She is the smooch/hug kind. She bought me a drinky. The guy she was with (not a BF) said he could never marry her because his paycheck wasn’t big enough. Found out later what her purse cost. I will go ahead and scratch her off my Mrs. CCA list.
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Hengineer Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:46:51am |
re: #100 ralphieboy
I have a problem with league soccer play here in Europe: they have some points system by which it is often in both teams’ interest to play to a tie. I have watched games where each side has scored a goal and then they just stand on the ball and run out the clock.
Dead boring and, well, un-American!!!
I agree! I like it during the World Cup in America in ‘94, they upped the win points to 3 instead of 2 so that it gave an incentive to actually win, when a tie only brought you one point.
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Hengineer Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:47:40am |
re: #102 Cannadian Club Akbar
I met a girl the other night. Is a hottie. She is the smooch/hug kind. She bought me a drinky. The guy she was with (not a BF) said he could never marry her because his paycheck wasn’t big enough. Found out later what her purse cost. I will go ahead and scratch her off my Mrs. CCA list.
It’s funny how women will swear up and down that they are not prostitutes or whores.
Deny them one time when they ask you to buy them something, good luck getting laid!
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Hengineer Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:48:31am |
re: #104 Hengineer
It’s funny how women will swear up and down that they are not prostitutes or whores.
Deny them one time when they ask you to buy them something, good luck getting laid!
yes I know you lady lizards here will hate on me up and down for saying this. I don’t care.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:49:22am |
re: #105 Hengineer
If the transaction takes place on the street or in a strip club, its prostitution. If the transaction takes place elsewhere it’s just dating.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:49:25am |
re: #102 Cannadian Club Akbar
I met a girl the other night. Is a hottie. She is the smooch/hug kind. She bought me a drinky. The guy she was with (not a BF) said he could never marry her because his paycheck wasn’t big enough. Found out later what her purse cost. I will go ahead and scratch her off my Mrs. CCA list.
LOL
Have you ever considered she isn’t looking for money?
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ryannon Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:49:26am |
re: #105 Hengineer
yes I know you lady lizards here will hate on me up and down for saying this. I don’t care.
They’re all sluts - except for Mom.
And she’s dead.
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Hengineer Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:49:54am |
re: #106 ralphieboy
If the transaction takes place on the street or in a strip club, its prostitution. If the transaction takes place elsewhere it’s just dating.
touche’
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:50:29am |
re: #107 HoosierHoops
LOL
Have you ever considered she isn’t looking for money?
She is rich. Her purse cost more than my little truck.
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ryannon Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:51:41am |
re: #110 Cannadian Club Akbar
She is rich. Her purse cost more than my little truck.
She’s new rich.
People who grew up with money don’t talk about it.
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Hengineer Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:51:42am |
re: #110 Cannadian Club Akbar
She is rich. Her purse cost more than my little truck.
true, maybe she’s looking for a trophy man? would you be satisfied being with a sugar momma?
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:52:00am |
re: #110 Cannadian Club Akbar
So she isn’t looking for money, she is just looking for a date from her social/economic background: the kinds with trust funds and domestic servants.
I met a girl like that once at a punk disco in Frankfurt: a southern belle from a rich Georgia plantation family. She was a great girl, but we were just too different in our upbringing.
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Hengineer Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:52:14am |
re: #111 ryannon
She’s new rich.
People who grew up with money don’t talk about it.
Of course not! Its rude and crass!
//
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:52:39am |
re: #111 ryannon
She’s new rich.
People who grew up with money don’t talk about it.
She didn’t. Was brought up by another person.
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Hengineer Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:52:51am |
re: #113 ralphieboy
So she isn’t looking for money, she is just looking for a date from her social/economic background: the kinds with trust funds and domestic servants.
I met a girl like that once at a punk disco in Frankfurt: a southern belle from a rich Georgia plantation family. She was a great girl, but we were just too different in our upbringing.
It might be ok to take her for a little ride, she might be looking for a “regular guy” to piss daddy off or something.
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laZardo Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:53:42am |
re: #113 ralphieboy
So she isn’t looking for money, she is just looking for a date from her social/economic background: the kinds with trust funds and domestic servants.
I met a girl like that once at a punk disco in Frankfurt: a southern belle from a rich Georgia plantation family. She was a great girl, but we were just too different in our upbringing.
I can tell.
/Oh yeah. I went there. q;
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:54:10am |
re: #116 Hengineer
She wound up marrying some fellow who works for a major European chemical company and regularly goes on hunting trips with Dukes and Barons.
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ryannon Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:54:47am |
re: #114 Hengineer
Of course not! Its rude and crass!
//
It’s just dumb.
Really old money generally have more interesting things to talk about.
But even this is changing, so yeah, she’s probably a sweet, intelligent lady and a real prize. Seriously.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:56:25am |
re: #119 ryannon
The girl I met was just sorta “slumming it”: studying theater in Europe. Last I heard, she lives in Geneva in a lake front estate with servants.
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ryannon Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:57:12am |
re: #118 ralphieboy
She wound up marrying some fellow who works for a major European chemical company and regularly goes on hunting trips with Dukes and Barons.
Do you remember the marque of her handbag? Was it a Hermés? They can easily go above the price of even a luxury car.
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ryannon Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:57:58am |
re: #120 ralphieboy
The girl I met was just sorta “slumming it”: studying theater in Europe. Last I heard, she lives in Geneva in a lake front estate with servants.
That sounds like some serious money, right there.
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rwdflynavy Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:59:05am |
Good Morning to the Lizard Army!
I am now settled in my temporary abode, bedroom in a townhouse in Alexandria VA, for my new job in Crystal City.
I will move the family up in June when the kids finish school.
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Taqyia2Me Sun, Apr 18, 2010 4:59:44am |
The Patriot Plan:
chicagotribune.com
“…The Patriot Plan has two simple prongs. One prong involves Tax Day. The other prong involves Election Day….”
“…The way the Patriot Plan works is simple. First, we get rid of withholding taxes.
Withholding taxes — the amount the government holds back from your paycheck each week — was a devious trick brought to us by that iconic big-government leader of yore, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
Roosevelt’s genius was recognizing that it was much easier to squeeze taxes out of Americans in small increments. And soon, most Americans slowly forgot how much they were actually paying…The Patriot Plan will put an end to such political trickery. Withholding taxes will be a thing of the past.
Instead, you’ll get to keep all of your money. That’s right. All the money you earn will be yours. There will be no federal withholdings for income, Social Security, Medicare or anything else.
But on April 15, all working Americans will, by law, stand in line at their local Internal Revenue Service office, clutching two important items:
Their tax forms. And their checkbooks.
Then each of us will be obligated to write out a personal check to the government for every dime of taxes owed. Not only income tax, but all the others too. And while we’re at it, why not have a federal mandate to compel the states and the counties and municipalities to do likewise, for the sake of efficiency?..”
“…But the Patriot Plan isn’t finished uniting the country. We’ve just accomplished the first prong: the paying prong. Now it’s time for the second prong: the political prong.
Tax Day will be a national holiday under the Patriot Plan, so after writing all those zeros on your check, you can go home and pour yourself a stiff drink or seven. And then you’ll get ready for what will take place on April 16.
Election Day….”
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 5:01:00am |
re: #123 rwdflynavy
Good Morning to the Lizard Army!
I am now settled in my temporary abode, bedroom in a townhouse in Alexandria VA, for my new job in Crystal City.
I will move the family up in June when the kids finish school.
Good for you!! Wait, you, FBV, beer, maybe not.
///
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freetoken Sun, Apr 18, 2010 5:03:05am |
re: #126 ryannon
Sounds like a plan.
/
Napoleon had a plan too, to invade Russia…
The best laid plans of wingnuts and dictators…
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 5:03:10am |
re: #124 Taqyia2Me
Why not have a plan in which mortgage holders pay off their banks once a year, and tenants pay their rent annually? And in which employers pay your annual salary at the end of each year?
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Taqyia2Me Sun, Apr 18, 2010 5:03:18am |
re: #126 ryannon
Sounds like a plan.
/
I like the overall theory. Knwoing for sure what you actually pay out of your pocket for taxes.
It would also be wise for everyone to know the total dollar amount of their health care every year, not just what they pay out of pocket or have withheld.
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Taqyia2Me Sun, Apr 18, 2010 5:05:12am |
re: #128 ralphieboy
Why not have a plan in which mortgage holders pay off their banks once a year, and tenants pay their rent annually? And in which employers pay your annual salary at the end of each year?
Again, it’s about the theory behind the column, being fully aware of what you are paying.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Apr 18, 2010 5:05:40am |
re: #121 ryannon
Do you remember the marque of her handbag? Was it a Hermés? They can easily go above the price of even a luxury car.
This thread is steering dangerously close to evaluating rich girls and dating.
CCR you are cracking me up..Just go for it dude.
Must I tell you stories about Napa Valley Girls? Just go for it bro….It doesn’t matter at all how expensive their purse is..or how cheap your truck is…
I need to write a book..
/
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 5:07:17am |
re: #130 Taqyia2Me
Again, it’s about the theory behind the column, being fully aware of what you are paying.
In other words, not mathematics, but psychology. Of course you know how much you pay, it’t just a matter of how the figures are presented to you.
Or, how about you pay no taxes until you die and then the government presents your lifetime tax bill to your family?
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 5:08:28am |
re: #131 HoosierHoops
Well, I was prepared to fall seriously for this girl but it became clear that I was way outta my league. She is a great person, though, we still keep in touch.
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Taqyia2Me Sun, Apr 18, 2010 5:09:41am |
re: #132 ralphieboy
In other words, not mathematics, but psychology. Of course you know how much you pay, it’t just a matter of how the figures are presented to you.
Or, how about you pay no taxes until you die and then the government presents your lifetime tax bill to your family?
Respectfully disagree with paragraph one. Most have little idea how much they pay when all taxes and fees they pay over the course of a year are added up and totaled.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 5:11:56am |
re: #131 HoosierHoops
This thread is steering dangerously close to evaluating rich girls and dating.
CCR you are cracking me up..Just go for it dude.
Must I tell you stories about Napa Valley Girls? Just go for it bro…It doesn’t matter at all how expensive their purse is..or how cheap your truck is…
I need to write a book..
/
I dunno. She is a party girl and I am a “stay at home and watch baseball” guy. Her bar tab the other night was a grand. (she bought the house a couple rounds)
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 5:13:29am |
re: #134 Taqyia2Me
It’s all there in black and white. It just assumes that most folks are too stupid, lazy, or distracted to compile it.
Perhaps they are corrrect on that account.
The plan, however, is all for show: the mechanics of arranging an annual payment for all taxes is prohibitively expensive and the notion of sending IRS people out to collect overdue tax bills is rather ridiculous.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Apr 18, 2010 5:14:21am |
re: #133 ralphieboy
Well, I was prepared to fall seriously for this girl but it became clear that I was way outta my league. She is a great person, though, we still keep in touch.
Point one..There is no woman out of your league…
Change your attitude…
I’m just teasing you this morning…
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rwdflynavy Sun, Apr 18, 2010 5:14:48am |
re: #136 ralphieboy
It’s all there in black and white. It just assumes that most folks are too stupid, lazy, or distracted to compile it.
Perhaps they are corrrect on that account.
The plan, however, is all for show: the mechanics of arranging an annual payment for all taxes is prohibitively expensive and the notion of sending IRS people out to collect overdue tax bills is rather ridiculous.
The IRS does that now…
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 5:17:25am |
re: #138 rwdflynavy
Yes, they do that, but the jump in volume would be rather tremendous if we switched to an annual payment. But that is what the anti-tax folks want to see. mass crackdowns and mass protests.
That is not solving the or addressing the issues of taxation, that is grandstanding.
On the other hand, the IRS could offer employees a chance to defer their withholding taxes in favor of an anual payment, but if they miss filing or paying for even a single year, then they get bumped back to the old system
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HoosierHoops Sun, Apr 18, 2010 5:18:19am |
re: #135 Cannadian Club Akbar
I dunno. She is a party girl and I am a “stay at home and watch baseball” guy. Her bar tab the other night was a grand. (she bought the house a couple rounds)
LOL
good morning Bro..
Just trash her and start a relationship.. Jeez..Have you ever dated a girl from Napa.. Their daddies are millionaires.. who cares?
Money can’t buy you love…*wink*
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 5:23:08am |
re: #140 HoosierHoops
LOL
good morning Bro..
Just trash her and start a relationship.. Jeez..Have you ever dated a girl from Napa.. Their daddies are millionaires.. who cares?
Money can’t buy you love…*wink*
I have actually dated a Wrigley. As in the chewing gum/Wrigley Field Wrigley’s.
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laZardo Sun, Apr 18, 2010 5:24:10am |
re: #140 HoosierHoops
LOL
good morning Bro..
Just trash her and start a relationship.. Jeez..Have you ever dated a girl from Napa.. Their daddies are millionaires.. who cares?
Money can’t buy you love…*wink*
But it can buy me the best damn night out ever.
/lonely high school nerd, and wanting.
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ryannon Sun, Apr 18, 2010 5:25:27am |
re: #141 Cannadian Club Akbar
I have actually dated a Wrigley. As in the chewing gum/Wrigley Field Wrigley’s.
Boy, do I ever have a nasty rim-shot for that.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 5:38:21am |
If I ever turned on the charm, the rich girl would be toast. I am quite personable and funny. And good looking.
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cenotaphium Sun, Apr 18, 2010 5:46:32am |
re: #124 Taqyia2Me
> all working Americans will, by law, stand in line
> write out a personal check to the government
>federal mandate to compel the states and the counties and municipalities to do likewise
> for the sake of efficiency
Enough (tro)lols to warrant this video:
I would agree that a simpler overview (and sum total) of taxation is a good thing however..
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Bubblehead II Sun, Apr 18, 2010 5:54:20am |
re: #151 MandyManners
“I want its supporters and creators to stop backing it and allow the regional nations and the Palestinians to settle things with them,” he said without elaborating.
IIRC, they tried that. And got their ass kicked.
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laZardo Sun, Apr 18, 2010 5:56:22am |
re: #153 Bubblehead II
“I want its supporters and creators to stop backing it and allow the regional nations and the Palestinians to settle things with them,” he said without elaborating.
IIRC, they tried that. And got their ass kicked.
Several times!
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 5:57:10am |
re: #26 beekiller
This is why I could never go to an event like this guy did. I’m not a violent person and I don’t have a bad temper but if you push or hit me…it’s ON.
He got slapped around by a bunch of old white women. He needs to lock himself in his house for awhile and think about that.
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Tigger2005 Sun, Apr 18, 2010 5:58:51am |
re: #4 SanFranciscoZionist
I miss ham. I’ve been pretty solidly quasi-kosher for a decade or so now. With a few notable slip-ups, the most notable slip-up involving a friend’s old-world Chinese parents and a huge plate of disgusting seafood dishes.
God: “I spent all this time creating this wonderful animal that you can get all kinds of delicious cuts of meat from, and My own Chosen People won’t eat it. I said don’t eat FIGS! Moses heard it wrong!”
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Hengineer Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:00:31am |
re: #159 Tigger2005
God: “I spent all this time creating this wonderful animal that you can get all kinds of delicious cuts of meat from, and My own Chosen People won’t eat it. I said don’t eat FIGS! Moses heard it wrong!”
even his own son blasted a fig tree on his way to Jerusalem!
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:02:07am |
re: #69 ralphieboy
Despite claims made by both sides, being a conservative or a liberal does not exempt one from being capable of rational and critical thinking.
Oh yes it does. Alter even slightly from a partisans world view and you’re a revisionist devil. Partisans would rather make up their own version of reality than deal with actual life and all its harsh results.
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Tigger2005 Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:02:28am |
re: #160 Hengineer
even his own son blasted a fig tree on his way to Jerusalem!
He also said, “Don’t be selfish” not “Don’t eat shellfish.”
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sattv4u2 Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:05:15am |
re: #145 Cannadian Club Akbar
If I ever turned on the charm, the rich girl would be toast. I am quite personable and funny. And good looking.
and modest!
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HoosierHoops Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:05:19am |
The Little green football prayer list
This day in History:
At 5:13 a.m., an earthquake estimated at close to 8.0 on the Richter scale strikes San Francisco, California, killing hundreds of people as it topples numerous buildings. The quake was caused by a slip of the San Andreas Fault over a segment about 275 miles long, and shock waves could be felt from southern Oregon down to Los Angeles.
…
We thank you Lord for your kindness to Lazardo’s Family.. Look after them and bring them blessings..We pray for his grandmother this morning.. She has cancer and will soon pass.. Be there for her Lord as she comes home.
Jadespring: Dear Lord bring healing to a Sister.. Bring grace and strength to the Family.
We pray for your tender mercies
Dear Lord..We ask you this day you bring healing and grace to SFZ’s Father and Mother-in-law..
Help her in the Job search and finding her Career. .
We know your love brings healing and life.
Dear Lord..We pray for SFZ this morning:
Her friend of a friend has a newborn son facing some bad medical issues. Prayers for Grant, son of Jill and Steven, are greatly appreciated.
Ausador: Parents
Irenicum: Lord heal this family and bring comfort to them..
Guanxi88: Best wishes and lizard mojo to my wife’s best friend. her father committed suicide not two weeks after her mother succumbed to cancer.
Reine: Health and Family.. Lord we ask you grant Reine’s Daughter a Special blessing..Look after her and grant grace.
gregb - 4 year old son who suffered a head injury last Friday and spent the
weekend in the ICU with some lingering effects all week.
SteveC: Two friends, one needs heart surgery, and one might.
If you could add Sherman Nugent and his family to the prayer list, it would be greatly appreciated. He was a professor at my school since 1968, and a good friend to many. He only stopped teaching and conducting research a couple of semesters ago. Not sure if adding a link to obituaries is customary or not, but here it is: link-
Dark_Falcon Hoops, I have a late addition to the Prayer List: Last week my sister fell and seriously fractured her ankle. She has cerebral palsy, and though two surgeries have enabled her to walk normally, when she hurries she can still fall sometimes. This time she got hurt badly and your thoughts and prayers are appreciated.
My other friend got a surgical date in January. She quickly got tired of the waiting and asked the surgeon if she could reschedule earlier. Now she’s set for Nov 16
Jadespring: Our prayers go out to your sister…May she be healed
Baseballmom57: My God grant grace and healing to her son…
lurking faith… prayers for an aunt
,
Beekiller: Sister has been diagnosed with Cancer…We pray for a speedy recovery
FBV: Add my friend Jeff. Recently diagnosed with ALS. His family will watch him fade and die over the next three to five years. Wife and two kids (kids are young adults).
Prairiefire: Health for Family and friends
Mcspiff: if you could add my uncle to the list. He went in for surgery today and it didn’t go so well. Extra organs had to come out, etc. Still just hearing bits and pieces now. But any prayers would be greatly appreciated.
Alouette’ Dear Father..His name in Hebrew is Pinhas ben Rivka. , and he is in congestive heart failure. He is 91 years old, and a WW2 Pacific vet.
Reloadingisnotahobby: Could add my parents?
They’re in their 80’s and slipping in to ALZ…Simultaneously
We pray for all our Troops who have died protecting our Freedom.. Comfort the families Dear Lord this morning…
Give strength to all our Armed Forces serving at home or abroad …America thanks you.
God Bless President Obama and his family…
God Bless Israel.. Continue to bless her with prosperity and strength…The land of Milk and Honey…
Thank you Lord..
Amen
In Memoriam:
Obi Wan
Dublin(CA)Dude
USMC 1968
ElderZion
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Hengineer Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:06:18am |
re: #163 MandyManners
What? No Farfour?
SNIP
I can just see “intro to suicide bombing 101”
Introduction: Make sure you have at least 2 children with your wife before you or she decides to take the final step to paradise! We will take care of your children for the good of Allah!
You will not be allowed to take this step without children to leave behind.
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Hengineer Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:09:06am |
re: #168 MandyManners
Well, they’re actually encouraging the children to become splodey-dopes.
I know, its sick.
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cenotaphium Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:09:09am |
re: #162 Tigger2005
He also said, “Don’t be selfish” not “Don’t eat shellfish.”
Was there also an amusing malapropism with that “no homosex” story? I can’t come up with good rhymes. :(
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sattv4u2 Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:09:19am |
re: #166 Hengineer
I can just see “intro to suicide bombing 101”
Course will include
How to accessorize to match the bomb vest
How to program a GPS to find only pizza places
How to make the aftermath look as if Israelis ochestrated the entire event and targeted the child
/
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Hengineer Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:09:44am |
re: #169 Hengineer
I know, its sick.
and yet is does solve the ‘next generation” splodey problem. If they splode before having their own children, that’s less possible recruits.
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Hengineer Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:10:28am |
re: #171 sattv4u2
I can just see “intro to suicide bombing 101”Course will include
How to accessorize to match the bomb vest
How to program a GPS to find only pizza places
How to make the aftermath look as if Israelis ochestrated the entire event and targeted the child
/
And if you are the next in line, to show up at your buddy’s explosion wearing a green helmet and orange vest!
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laZardo Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:11:57am |
re: #171 sattv4u2
I can just see “intro to suicide bombing 101”Course will include
How to accessorize to match the bomb vest
How to program a GPS to find only pizza places
How to make the aftermath look as if Israelis ochestrated the entire event and targeted the child
/
As well as ambulance-driving lessons.
“Be sure to keep siren on at all times unless removed for nearby press.”
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Hengineer Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:18:10am |
re: #177 MandyManners
It’s a severe problem now. One of those dead kids could have grown up to become a doctor, an engineer, a leader against Islamism.
or another suicide bomber anyway.
in Somalia, or just another pirate.
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:19:02am |
re: #178 Hengineer
Who doesn’t want to grow up to be a pirate? I still do.
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Hengineer Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:19:35am |
re: #179 RogueOne
Who doesn’t want to grow up to be a pirate? I still do.
Speaking as someone who works on ships for a living, I find the romantic idea of piracy vastly overrated.
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cenotaphium Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:20:59am |
re: #179 RogueOne
Who doesn’t want to grow up to be a pirate? I still do.
Why don’t you download a music album and see if you still think it’s so cool!
/wagging finger
Besides, what you really want is some flamboyant clothes, a snazzy beard and an eyepach! Yo-ho-ho!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:21:02am |
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:22:01am |
re: #181 cenotaphium
Why don’t you download a music album and see if you still think it’s so cool!
/wagging fingerBesides, what you really want is some flamboyant clothes, a snazzy beard and an eyepach! Yo-ho-ho!
It’s the flamboyant clothing for me. I dig cool hats and ruffles.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:22:51am |
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Hengineer Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:23:00am |
re: #183 RogueOne
It’s the flamboyant clothing for me. I dig cool hats and ruffles.
…..
Travel to San Fransisco, the Castro Street Party on Halloween?
See how you like it then!
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:25:19am |
re: #175 MandyManners
Sounds like the Russian “Patriot Act” - better safe than sorry…
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sattv4u2 Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:25:44am |
UPDATE:
For the last two nights, I have been insatlling a new digital router here at work
(okay,, okay ,, so a lot of the time I was on LGF, so thats why it TOOK two nights to do,, but thats not the point)
So anyway, it’s done and we have another new goody here
I can now take and HD signal and running through the new router and the new processor, we can now send things out at HD in 3D !!
IT IS COOL!!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:32:15am |
re: #187 sattv4u2
BFD. I can make it look like my thumb is gone. Just sayin’.
//
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sattv4u2 Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:33:07am |
re: #188 HoosierHoops
Awesome!
We will be doing a lot of stuff for the World Cup. The processor can either just pass a 3D signal (which we’ll most likely be taking right from the satellite) or take an HD signal and upconvert it to 3D
I was playing around with it a little after I finished installing it this morning. I found an HD signal from NASA and upconverted it to 3D
WOW!!!
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sattv4u2 Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:34:10am |
re: #189 Cannadian Club Akbar
BFD. I can make it look like my thumb is gone. Just sayin’.
//
feh ,, I can use a circular saw and MAKE my thumb be gone!!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:36:41am |
re: #191 sattv4u2
feh ,, I can use a circular saw and MAKE my thumb be gone!!
YES!! Hence the long response time!!
/
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HoosierHoops Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:37:37am |
re: #190 sattv4u2
We will be doing a lot of stuff for the World Cup. The processor can either just pass a 3D signal (which we’ll most likely be taking right from the satellite) or take an HD signal and upconvert it to 3D
I was playing around with it a little after I finished installing it this morning. I found an HD signal from NASA and upconverted it to 3D
WOW!!!
I need to read up on the difference between HD and 3D signals..
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sattv4u2 Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:41:51am |
re: #193 HoosierHoops
I need to read up on the difference between HD and 3D signals..
HD is just High Definition. Everything is sharper and more detailed than Standard Definition (SD)
MEANS,,, if you were watching, lets say your local news anchor on SD, he looks okay. Same shot in HD, you can actually see a bead of sweat on his forehead
3D in HD just means his head with that bead of sweat is front and center, and whatever the backdrop is behind him has actual depth
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HoosierHoops Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:42:02am |
re: #195 Hengineer
World Cup in 3D? :O
holy heck!
The world cup is awsome..It’s the only time I watch soccer
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Hengineer Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:42:42am |
re: #198 HoosierHoops
The world cup is awsome..It’s the only time I watch soccer
that’s like being a holiday catholic
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HoosierHoops Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:44:18am |
re: #197 sattv4u2
Dude..I know about HD..I have a 73” Samsung..
I wonder about the difference between a HD signal and 3D signal
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sattv4u2 Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:44:21am |
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sattv4u2 Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:46:33am |
re: #201 HoosierHoops
Dude..I know about HD..I have a 73” Samsung..
I wonder about the difference between a HD signal and 3D signal
oh ,, sorry , not much
Like the dif between SD and HD, you need an HD camera and enough bandwidth (be it fiber or satellite) to pass the signal (also, at the receive end, HD equipment) same with 3D vs HD,,, you need a 3D camera, etc etc
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:48:08am |
There is nothing wrong with being gay (or lesbian). What hurts is the assumption that it hurts.
For six months, the media has been wallowing in the sexual scandals of private citizen Tiger Woods, to say nothing of the blanket coverage of the actions of his fellow fornicators, Eliot Spitzer, Mark Sanford, John Edwards, and the rumors about French President Sarkozy, and the perennial favorite, the post-Monica Bill Clinton. Although Woods, Spitzer, Sanford and Edwards doubtless did not want their sex lives publicized, few hesitated before running to their blogs. Yet when the Kagan rumors started, pretty much everyone in the mainstream media agreed smugly that they shouldn’t be outing anyone. The only explanation for the hands-off policy is that the media paladins think there’s something more disgraceful about being gay than cheating on your wife with a prostitute. It’s not protective, it’s the soft bigotry of low prurient expectations
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sattv4u2 Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:49:05am |
K Kiddies
Wrapping it up here
heading home to take a nap
then later, my son is being confirmed
Party at the SATTV house to follow
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jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:52:05am |
re: #206 RogueOne
There is nothing wrong with being gay (or lesbian). What hurts is the assumption that it hurts.
[Link: www.thedailybeast.com…]
Yes we really do need to squeeze the last few drops of dignity and respect for people’s privacy out the main stream media don’t we….
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HoosierHoops Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:52:53am |
re: #205 sattv4u2
oh ,, sorry , not much
Like the dif between SD and HD, you need an HD camera and enough bandwidth (be it fiber or satellite) to pass the signal (also, at the receive end, HD equipment) same with 3D vs HD,,, you need a 3D camera, etc etc
Hey you..Still working Bro?
There is never a chance of me watching TV with glasses on for 3D…It’s just isn’t going to happen..I have a 73” Hi def TV…I’m not trading it in for 3D.
I really need to read up on the Signal output..I figure it’s the Z line at a certain freq…
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BaseballMom57 Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:54:31am |
re: #60 negativ
AWESOME!!! I wish I could give 100 updings. Big LOST fans in this house!
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sattv4u2 Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:55:41am |
re: #210 MandyManners
SNIP
One of the photographs shows a sign from ANSWER LA.
from the caption
An unidentified man is confronted by an anti-Nazi crowd during a white supremacist rally at Los Angeles City Hall on Saturday April 17,2010. Hundreds of counter-protestors carrying anti-Nazi signs have gathered in downtown Los Angeles where a white supremacist group is rallying.
Good on Answer (and anyone else) for confronting the Nazis
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:57:03am |
re: #211 jamesfirecat
Yes we really do need to squeeze the last few drops of dignity and respect for people’s privacy out the main stream media don’t we…
The administration stepped in it again. They can’t get out of their own way.
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:58:18am |
re: #214 sattv4u2
from the caption
An unidentified man is confronted by an anti-Nazi crowd during a white supremacist rally at Los Angeles City Hall on Saturday April 17,2010. Hundreds of counter-protestors carrying anti-Nazi signs have gathered in downtown Los Angeles where a white supremacist group is rallying.Good on Answer (and anyone else) for confronting the Nazis
Some of the counter-demonstrators got out of hand. Congrats to the LAPD for managing to keep their cool and not letting the situation get totally out of control.
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BaseballMom57 Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:58:25am |
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:01:45am |
re: #200 MandyManners
What newspaper in the U.S. has libeled people in this manner?
Russia does not waste a lot of time and thought considering personal rights when it comes to enforcing safety. This is just a taste of what could happen in the USA if we got too carried away with our Patriot Act
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sattv4u2 Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:02:56am |
re: #220 MandyManners
Look at ANSWERLA’s site.
You mean stories/ headlines like this gem !?!?
What’s the Alternative to Cutbacks,
Layoffs, Racism & War?
SOCIALISM
Join us for a Conference & Workshops in LA
We Can Fight Back!
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:03:51am |
re: #221 ralphieboy
Russia does not waste a lot of time and thought considering personal rights when it comes to enforcing safety. This is just a taste of what could happen in the USA if we got too carried away with our Patriot Act
You must not have received the newsletter. There’s a dem in office now, nobody cares about the patriot act anymore.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:04:59am |
re: #223 RogueOne
It means that they weigh our freedoms against our security instead of abandoning the former to increase the latter.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:07:19am |
re: #218 BaseballMom57
Amen, and again we say Amen.
Thank you again Hoops, for maintaining the list.
It has been my honor.. If you got the chance to read the updates I get from the Prayer list every week you would be humbled..I know I am..
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jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:07:20am |
re: #216 RogueOne
The administration stepped in it again. They can’t get out of their own way.
By doing what? So much as thinking about appointing someone who may or may not be a lesbian?
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:07:59am |
re: #226 ralphieboy
It means that they weigh our freedoms against our security instead of abandoning the former to increase the latter.
It means other than Greenwald no one on the left cares anymore because it can’t be used as a political tool against a republican administration. Partisans only care how it plays politically they could care less about reality.
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:14:26am |
re: #229 jamesfirecat
By doing what? So much as thinking about appointing someone who may or may not be a lesbian?
No, that would have been the perfect political trap for the republicans. That’s kind of the end point of the article I posted. Instead they made a big deal out of defending her for “not” being gay when the conventional wisdom on the left/right was that she had been out for a long time. Now there isn’t any way she ends up the nominee. Personally, I wouldn’t want her anyway. Once again I’m in with Greenwald (I’ve been reading him more and more…)
There will, of course, be some Democrats who will be convinced that any nominee Obama chooses is the right one by virtue of being Obama’s choice. But for those who want to make an informed, rational judgment, it’s worthwhile to know her record. I’ve tried here to subject that record to as comprehensive and objective an assessment as possible. And now is the time to do this, because if Kagan is nominated, it’s virtually certain that she will be confirmed. There will be more than enough Republicans joining with the vast majority of Democrats to confirm her; no proposal ever loses in Washington for being insufficiently progressive (when is the last time such a thing happened?). If a Kagan nomination is to be stopped, it can only happen before her nomination is announced by Obama, not after.
There was an awful lot of the bolded portion going on in the previous Kagan thread. They should be proud.
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jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:19:46am |
re: #233 RogueOne
[Link: www.salon.com…]
There was an awful lot of the bolded portion going on in the previous Kagan thread. They should be proud.
My mind is reeling at the prospect of how we need to go and ruin these people’s lives /reputations before they are even actually announced as possible picks for the supreme court, for fear that once they do get announced they’ll suddenly become invincible.
I suppose there might be some political theory behind it which could justify it, but to me it seems like going out of your way to ruin people’s lives when they have done nothing to deserve it.
Also if “no proposal ever loses in Washington for being insufficiently progressive” Then how come when our lower house purposed and passed a Health Care Bill which would have created a public option the Senate wouldn’t go for it, and we only ended up getting something that worked by having the government try to regulate the market rather than directly compete with it?
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:28:28am |
re: #235 jamesfirecat
If she’s nominated, she’s in. Greenwald is right, that’s just the way it works 99% of the time. Why is it inappropriate to discuss her record before the nomination? If she doesn’t want to be considered it would be a simple matter of just letting someone know “no thanks”. No one is ruining her life by pointing out her record, or the lack thereof.
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:30:00am |
re: #235 jamesfirecat
Also if “no proposal ever loses in Washington for being insufficiently progressive” …
Forgot to add that I read that portion of Greenwalds piece as poorly worded snark.
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:33:05am |
re: #238 MandyManners
She’s in the same mold as Alito and Sotomayor, pro-statist and partisan. She’ll be a safe vote for dem policies.
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:41:44am |
re: #241 MandyManners
Did they have as little experience as she? Before she became SG, she had never argued before the Supreme Court. Since then, she’s been before it six times.
I don’t particularly care for the idea of nominating people to the highest court in the country that have zero experience on the bench but it’s not even close to the first time. Her lack of record is a problem for a lot on the left, greenwald compares her to Souter.
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Dom Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:44:23am |
Meanwhile stranded on a small island in northern Europe Brits are apparently breathing vaporised fibreglass as we wait for the Qwerty Volcano or it’s big sister Katla to super-erupt blocking out the sun’s rays and heralding a thousand-year winter while Americans put on silly hats and dance around at Tea Parties. We were just about to have an election so it is possible the whole thing is a Labour ploy.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:44:50am |
Drudge headlines this morning…
ABUSE OF POWER? Wall Street suspects GOLDMAN charges ‘not coincidental’ to financial reform effort…
FEAR: Obama claims fresh crisis without new financial rules…
Conspiracy!
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Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:48:34am |
HUffpo has an insane animation of the ash cloud over Europe.
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Athens Runaway Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:48:51am |
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:48:51am |
I you get a chance, watch the last 2 minutes of the Fareed Zakariya GPS interview of Rashid Khalidi, where the Israel-hater’s usual rant descends into drooling incoherence.
Good morning LGF.
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Dom Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:49:22am |
(((MandyManners)))
Are ya’ll getting ash?
Keep testing windowsills and car roofs with my index finger. Subsequently my index finger is dirty but I don’t think that’s conclusive.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:50:06am |
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freetoken Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:51:01am |
re: #244 Killgore Trout
Conspiracy!
Gold plunges as SEC sues Goldman
Gold fell the most in two months yesterday after regulators accused Goldman Sachs Group Inc. of fraud, spurring investors to seek a haven in the U.S. dollar and eroding the precious metal’s appeal as an alternative asset.
BUY GOLD!!
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Renaissance_Man Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:51:54am |
re: #250 Dom
(((MandyManners)))
Keep testing windowsills and car roofs with my index finger. Subsequently my index finger is dirty but I don’t think that’s conclusive.
Would you say that it generally seems to be improving the local aesthetics - in other words, a nice piece of ash? Or would you say that it’s unattractive enough that you need to cover your ash?
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Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:53:32am |
re: #253 Spare O’Lake
Politics!
It’s not politics. It crime. I think it’s going to be a really bad move for Republicans to side with the criminals. We’re probably going to see a lot more of the prosecutions over the next year or so.
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Dom Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:53:57am |
re: #255 MandyManners
Hoping it won’t come to that although I’m kinkily excited at the thought of burrowing underground with some tins of beans, perhaps nibbling tentatively at a few roots and gradually becoming more rabbit-like in my various behaviours. (That’s what I envisage in the absence of clear scientific advice to date.)
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Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:54:10am |
re: #254 freetoken
I hear the Germans are suing too. It’s going to be a mess.
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Vicious Babushka Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:55:44am |
re: #105 Hengineer
yes I know you lady lizards here will hate on me up and down for saying this. I don’t care.
I keel you.
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:56:23am |
re: #245 MandyManners
Glenn “The Sock” Greenwald?
That’s the one. In his defense he’s a partisan, but not a dem partisan. He at least puts his political views above his defense of a party, something most people can’t seem to do. I can respect him for that ability.
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freetoken Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:57:00am |
re: #257 MandyManners
He’s just doing what his Chinese Communist† masters have ordered him to do, no doubt.
†Look upstream
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:57:58am |
re: #258 Killgore Trout
It’s not politics. It crime. I think it’s going to be a really bad move for Republicans to side with the criminals. We’re probably going to see a lot more of the prosecutions over the next year or so.
Crime indeed and let the crooks go to jail, but the timing of the announcement of the charges smells political, given that Wall Street had the nerve to vocally oppose Obama’s current regulatory initiative.
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:58:03am |
re: #258 Killgore Trout
It’s not politics. It crime. I think it’s going to be a really bad move for Republicans to side with the criminals. We’re probably going to see a lot more of the prosecutions over the next year or so.
Drudge is a criminal? Did I miss something?
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freetoken Sun, Apr 18, 2010 7:59:15am |
Sarah Strangelove: ‘We like Being a Dominant Superpower’
A once Grand Old Party now seems to be in the thrall of lesser lights, including Palin, who still struggles to pronounce the word “nuclear” but who seems to be convinced — against all evidence from history and recent developments — that arrogance is an appealing attribute of superpowers.
“Sarah Strangelove” … love it.
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:02:38am |
re: #264 Spare O’Lake
Crime indeed and let the crooks go to jail, but the timing of the announcement of the charges smells political, given that Wall Street had the nerve to vocally oppose Obama’s current regulatory initiative.
Henry Waxman would never let that sort of behavior by the administration to occur under his watch. I’m certain of it.
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Athens Runaway Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:04:46am |
re: #266 freetoken
Sarah Strangelove: ‘We like Being a Dominant Superpower’
“Sarah Strangelove” … love it.
I’ve never understood this dialectal snobbery that you guys do. People from different places say words differently. Does not talking with an Ivy League accent make me or you a lesser person?
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:05:15am |
re: #266 freetoken
The Neocons embraced the notion of the USA as the world’s sole dominant superpower and sought to maintain that position.
I think Sarah likes that part of it.
But as Obama pointed out, when you occupy that position, you come to find all the world’s problems laid at your door and you have to send your own sons and daughters off to die in dealing with them.
I wonder if Sarah likes that part of it…
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freetoken Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:08:42am |
re: #268 Athens Runaway
I’ve never understood this dialectal snobbery that you guys do.
“Dialectal snobbery”… me? You must have me confused with somebody else. I limit myself purely to lexical snobbery.
Now, if you want real “dialectal snobbery”, try Rush Limbaugh…
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:09:31am |
re: #266 freetoken
Sarah Strangelove: ‘We like Being a Dominant Superpower’
“Sarah Strangelove” … love it.
Wow, John Nichols must not have been around in the 80’s.
FTA:
Reagan believed in a strong national defense.But the 40th president sought to express the traditional Republican value that said the point of a strong defense was to defend — not to offend.
A nation built defenses to avoid having to use them, not to flaunt them or to abuse their awesome power.
That is the exact opposite of the liberal/progressive view of Reagan in the 80’s.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:10:37am |
re: #264 Spare O’Lake
I don’t think the timing is suspicious. These investigations take time and this is just the first one. There’s speculation that this is only the tip of the iceberg. The administration is prosecuting the criminals and working on legislation to prevent this from happening again. The government is doing what it should.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:10:40am |
nucleus, nuclear.
tube, tubular
boob, boobular
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:12:01am |
re: #268 Athens Runaway
I’ve never understood this dialectal snobbery that you guys do. People from different places say words differently. Does not talking with an Ivy League accent make me or you a lesser person?
Lizardonics!
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Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:12:23am |
A word of warning to cookbook proofreaders….
‘Ground Black People’: Cookbook Recipe Typo Forces Reprint
An Australian publisher is reprinting 7,000 cookbooks over a recipe for pasta with “salt and freshly ground black people.”
Penguin Group Australia’s head of publishing, Bob Sessions, acknowledged the proofreader for the Pasta Bible should have picked up the error, but called it nothing more than a “silly mistake.”
The “Pasta Bible” recipe for spelt tagliatelle with sardines and prosciutto was supposed to call for black pepper.
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:12:34am |
re: #271 RogueOne
That article is the best humor piece I’ve read all week. It should have been cross-posted at the onion. His underlying point was correct but his lionizing of Reagan to make that point was, I would assume unintentionally, hilarious!
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Athens Runaway Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:12:52am |
re: #270 freetoken
“Dialectal snobbery”… me? You must have me confused with somebody else. I limit myself purely to lexical snobbery.
Now, if you want real “dialectal snobbery”, try Rush Limbaugh…
Yeah, cuz I’m a total Dittohead. Right. /
Anyway, what I mean by “dialectal snobbery” is the assumption that pronouncing words in a manner that’s not the Queen’s English makes you a lesser person. See also: the left and George W. Bush, the left and Sarah Palin, the left and anyone from the Southern states, etc. …
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:14:25am |
re: #279 Athens Runaway
Yeah, cuz I’m a total Dittohead. Right. /
Anyway, what I mean by “dialectal snobbery” is the assumption that pronouncing words in a manner that’s not the Queen’s English makes you a lesser person. See also: the left and George W. Bush, the left and Sarah Palin, the left and anyone from the Southern states, etc. …
The right and Boston, the right and canadians/
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Political Atheist Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:14:34am |
re: #277 Killgore Trout
OMG
Spell check can be an Enemy.
Preview is Your Friend.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:15:06am |
re: #273 Killgore Trout
I don’t think the timing is suspicious. These investigations take time and this is just the first one. There’s speculation that this is only the tip of the iceberg. The administration is prosecuting the criminals and working on legislation to prevent this from happening again. The government is doing what it should.
Whatever - neither of us knows for sure. At the very least though, the timing is highly coincidental.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:15:34am |
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freetoken Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:15:39am |
re: #279 Athens Runaway
See also: the left and George W. Bush, the left and Sarah Palin, the left and anyone from the Southern states, etc. …
Hmmmm….
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reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:16:19am |
re: #277 Killgore Trout
A word of warning to cookbook proofreaders…
LGF COOKBOOK proofreaders!
Be very careful in your proofing, please!
Good grief.
What a nightmare.
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cenotaphium Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:17:27am |
re: #279 Athens Runaway
Yeah, cuz I’m a total Dittohead. Right. /
Anyway, what I mean by “dialectal snobbery” is the assumption that pronouncing words in a manner that’s not the Queen’s English makes you a lesser person. See also: the left and George W. Bush, the left and Sarah Palin, the left and anyone from the Southern states, etc. …
Or, you could phrase that as “pronouncing words in a slurred, folksy manner makes people assume you’re not the sharpest tool in the drawer”, for a more common stereotype. Conversely, you could argue that speaking in a stilted, jargon-clad language makes you appear as an egghead who is part of the “liberal elite” and knows nothing about “real life” (or “real murrica”, if you prefer).
They’re stereotypes. No one has monopoly on using them or being offended at their use, but doing either sure sets you up for being laughed at.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:17:33am |
re: #286 reine.de.tout
I thought you might enjoy that one.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:17:53am |
re: #279 Athens Runaway
“dialectical” means “applying to dialetics”, as in Hegelian philosophy
Speaking the Queen’s English is not a sign of intellectual superiority, but I believe that demonstrating a concise command of one’s native language is a sign of intelligence and intellectual capacity. I find that Bush and Palin are rather lacking in that respect.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:18:56am |
We see here, from time to time, comments and links about the various names among the thousands of visitors to the White House.
Here’s a lesson on the damage that can be done when assumptions are made about who is whom.
I don’t know anything about this site, but I’m linking it because one of the comments is the following, so it seems rational people must read this site:
Nice post, thanks. Very gracious.
A note.
When you began “[u]ncharacteristically for Michelle, who is a good journalist,” I almost did not read the rest of the post.
What is the opposite of an ad hominem attack? That is how I would describe that sentence. Sort of the opposite of “I am not sure I could put ‘Malkin,’ in a sentence with either ‘good’ or ‘journalist’ without it being an oxymoron.”
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Athens Runaway Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:19:06am |
re: #289 ralphieboy
“dialectical” means “applying to dialetics”, as in Hegelian philosophy
Speaking the Queen’s English is not a sign of intellectual superiority, but I believe that demonstrating a concise command of one’s native language is a sign of intelligence and intellectual capacity. I find that Bush and Palin are rather lacking in that respect.
Yep. Bush was an idiot. The first President with an MBA was an idiot.
And my apologies for misusing the word. I is stoopid conservative.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:21:24am |
re: #289 ralphieboy
“dialectical” means “applying to dialetics”, as in Hegelian philosophy
Speaking the Queen’s English is not a sign of intellectual superiority, but I believe that demonstrating a concise command of one’s native language is a sign of intelligence and intellectual capacity. I find that Bush and Palin are rather lacking in that respect.
Then I’m lacking also.
*sigh*
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Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:21:59am |
re: #290 reine.de.tout
Yeah, It’s almost impossible to take stuff from right wing blogs seriously these days. They aren’t just sloppy with the facts, they are often outright lying.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:22:12am |
re: #291 Athens Runaway
Yes, that was a low blow, I knew what you meant, but if you were addressing, say a foreign leader, it could’ve lead to a misunderstanding.
I find that Bush was lacking in the capacity to express himself clearly in English, which does not preclude anyone from obtaining an MBA, but it does, in my view, reflect on his capabilities as a World leader.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:25:22am |
re: #293 Killgore Trout
Yeah, It’s almost impossible to take stuff from right wing blogs seriously these days. They aren’t just sloppy with the facts, they are often outright lying.
Yep.
I think what I liked to might be a “conservative” site, but that piece, at least, seems reasonable.
I also had the same reaction as the guy who posted the comment I quoted.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:26:15am |
re: #295 reine.de.tout
Yep.
I think what Ilikedlinked to might be a “conservative” site, but that piece, at least, seems reasonable.
I also had the same reaction as the guy who posted the comment I quoted.
pimf.
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Athens Runaway Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:31:20am |
Well, since the consensus here is that if you have any kind of socially unacceptable (Southern, Mat-Su Valley accent, or Southwestern) accent or misuse the English language, you’re not allowed to have any kind of role in governing or public debate, I’ll be moseying along for today. No sense trying to argue my point further.
I hope you guys never find out that the president pronounces “corpsman” as “corpseman”, or that he uses different dialects for different crowds and situations. Queen’s English FTW.
Personally, I judge people based on what they say, not how they say it. I is stoopid konservaitve, though, so whatev. :)
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Locker Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:31:22am |
Morning all. The biggest shocker for me over this whole thing would be the existence of more than one LGF post using the tag of “Ham”.
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Reginald Perrin Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:32:07am |
re: #257 MandyManners
BUY GOLD!!That’s what Soros is doing.
You’re just being resentful towards Soros because you aren’t one of the lizards that gets a monthly check from him.
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laZardo Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:32:28am |
re: #297 Athens Runaway
Well, since the consensus here is that if you have any kind of socially unacceptable (Southern, Mat-Su Valley accent, or Southwestern) accent or misuse the English language, you’re not allowed to have any kind of role in governing or public debate, I’ll be moseying along for today. No sense trying to argue my point further.
It could be worse.
You could, like, have the Valley Girl accent.
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:34:40am |
re: #294 ralphieboy
I find that Bush was lacking in the capacity to express himself clearly in English, which does not preclude anyone from obtaining an MBA, but it does, in my view, reflect on his capabilities as a World leader.
I’m going to have to disagree with that statement. We elected our president based almost entirely on his being the most articulate person on the planet (slight snark), how has his ability to speak in public had a positive affect on his ability as a “world leader”? Does his ability to speak clearly have some sort of influence on his reasoning skills and what foreign policy success do you attribute to his ability to enunciate?
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:36:15am |
re: #297 Athens Runaway
I don’t think that’s the consensus, but I think that one major job of a politician - especially one involved in national and international politics - is to be able to express complex concept in a clear and understanable manner.
Bush and Sarah had enough command of English to govern their respective states of Texas and Alaska, but I found their language rather lacking when it came to being international figures.
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freetoken Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:37:07am |
re: #293 Killgore Trout
Outside of a few stuffy, academic think tanks (not the pop-econ-tanks that imitate the real ones), it seems that the whole (yes, I’m generalizing) of the self proclaimed “conservative” media/groups in this country have enmeshed themselves in tantric chanting. The tantras being variations of what you call “libertarian fundamentalism”, fundamentalist religious doctrines, and various conspiracy ideas (ala JBS.)
I put up in the spinoffs the other day a link to a religion article about a preacher/teacher/theologian who was in all practical purposes kicked out of his Christian school because he had the audacity to say he accepted scientific evolution as true. One of his peers who suffered likewise pointed out that the US fundamentalist religious communities are in a sort of a purity drive.
I’ve mentioned this before - about the “right” in this country sealing themselves off from outside information. I hypothesize that this is a defensive mechanism before the final meltdown, a time when it will become clear that the antiquated notions to which they hold are so untenable that our society will churn through another great change.
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What, me worry? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:37:17am |
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Altermite Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:37:26am |
re: #301 RogueOne
I’m going to have to disagree with that statement. We elected our president based almost entirely on his being the most articulate person on the planet (slight snark), how has his ability to speak in public had a positive affect on his ability as a “world leader”? Does his ability to speak clearly have some sort of influence on his reasoning skills and what foreign policy success do you attribute to his ability to enunciate?
Uh, no. This guy, and a number of other swing voters elected him being we already knew that Palin was a mindbogglingly bad choice.
Speaking clearly was a side benefit. And I’d take Biden over Palin OR Mccain in terms of foreign policy skills any day.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:38:43am |
Instapundit is yammering about Waco and Oklahoma City bombing again today….
BYRON YORK: How Clinton Exploited Oklahoma City For Political Gain.
I just don’t understand the instinct to side with terrorists and pedophile cults against our elected leadership. This attitude is why domestic terrorism from the right is a real risk these days. All it takes is for widespread support for a militia or cult that gets raided and we have a real mess on our hands again.
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Locker Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:38:58am |
re: #297 Athens Runaway
Well, since the consensus here is that if you have any kind of socially unacceptable (Southern, Mat-Su Valley accent, or Southwestern) accent or misuse the English language, you’re not allowed to have any kind of role in governing or public debate, I’ll be moseying along for today. No sense trying to argue my point further.
I hope you guys never find out that the president pronounces “corpsman” as “corpseman”, or that he uses different dialects for different crowds and situations. Queen’s English FTW.
Personally, I judge people based on what they say, not how they say it. I is stoopid konservaitve, though, so whatev. :)
I’ve lived all over the country and in my small experience window it is definitely southerners who are the most intolerant of “outsider” dialects/accents. Yankees, California Faggots, Niggrahs, Immigrants, You not from around here are you boy etc, etc, etc. I have heard all of these types of comments over and over and over.
But yea you are right it’s juts the evil liberals trying to ride down on you “stoopid konservaitve”s that’s the problem.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:40:20am |
Well the way he was manhandled was too much, but at the same time, if nobody attempted to get him to leave the event, then a picture of him and his sign would probably be showing up under a thread topic on some blog as “Teabonics of the day.”
You loose if ya do, you loose if ya don’t.
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Dom Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:41:13am |
re: #272 MandyManners
Thought that might be porn. It’s likelier than what I had in mind anyway. :)
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Locker Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:41:41am |
re: #308 Walter L. Newton
Well the way he was manhandled was too much, but at the same time, if nobody attempted to get him to leave the event, then a picture of him and his sign would probably be showing up under a thread topic on some blog as “Teabonics of the day.”
You loose if ya do, you loose if ya don’t.
Oh yes the crushing embarrassment of carrying an goofy sign at a tea party and then appearing on the internet. I’m sure that was the motivation of his attackers… “Oh no the internet might thing we like ham! Get HIM!”.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:41:56am |
Bush was adept at reiterating what had been explained to him, but I found him clearly lacking at formulating his own thoughts into coherent statements. And Palin even more so.
I do not care about their dialects or speech mannerisms, I was talking about their ability to get their point across to people who do not already agree with them.
And that is a problem that America is really struggling with nowadays, I find that the level of public discourse has really taken a nosedive.
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Renaissance_Man Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:42:59am |
re: #297 Athens Runaway
Well, since the consensus here is that if you have any kind of socially unacceptable (Southern, Mat-Su Valley accent, or Southwestern) accent or misuse the English language, you’re not allowed to have any kind of role in governing or public debate, I’ll be moseying along for today. No sense trying to argue my point further.
I hope you guys never find out that the president pronounces “corpsman” as “corpseman”, or that he uses different dialects for different crowds and situations. Queen’s English FTW.
Personally, I judge people based on what they say, not how they say it. I is stoopid konservaitve, though, so whatev. :)
Rather than get your knickers in a twist about it, you could just accept that when you’re in a position where your points of view are open to the public, how you communicate them is, if anything, more important than what you have to say. People as a whole are much less interested in content than how something is presented.
If you speak publicly in a folksy, slightly slurred drawl and mispronounce words, some people are going to think that’s everyman charm, others are going to think you sound like an uneducated rube. If you write in twitterspeak, some will think you’re edgy and hip, others will think you’re an illiterate imbecile. If you constantly speak in a breathless, melodramatic televangelist voice, your actual words can be soul-destroyingly idiotic and some people will still buy gold and survival seeds from you.
Presentation matters. It’s human nature. If you’re looking only for substantive criticism of Sarah Palin’s actual positions, then most of this board will be only too happy to oblige with that too.
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:43:14am |
re: #305 Altermite
Did you miss the “(slight snark)” portion of that sentence? Here’s something that isn’t snark, biden knows no more about foreign policy now than he did when he took his first oath in 1974. He’s been consistently wrong for 35 years.
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jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:43:41am |
re: #268 Athens Runaway
I’ve never understood this dialectal snobbery that you guys do. People from different places say words differently. Does not talking with an Ivy League accent make me or you a lesser person?
There’s having an accent and being an idiot.
What accent causes someone to see the word “nuclear” and pronounce it “nuc-ul-lar” instead of “new-clear”.
The man or woman in charge of our atomic weapons should not speak in a way that makes me compare them to Homer Simpson.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:46:50am |
re: #312 Renaissance_Man
America has a great tradition of speakers who employ a folksy style but are very concise, erudite and clear in their statements: Mark Twain and Will Rogers come to mind right away.
But I often found Sarah Palin’s interview responses to be embarassingly disjointed, and not just because the interviewer was out to play “gotcha” with her.
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Renaissance_Man Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:47:01am |
re: #306 Killgore Trout
Instapundit is yammering about Waco and Oklahoma City bombing again today…
I just don’t understand the instinct to side with terrorists and pedophile cults against our elected leadership. This attitude is why domestic terrorism from the right is a real risk these days. All it takes is for widespread support for a militia or cult that gets raided and we have a real mess on our hands again.
The instinct is there because the most important trait to the Conservative cult is how much someone/something hates liberals or is hated by them. If liberals are against neo-Nazis, right wing militias, and the like, some part of the cult mind wants to defend them. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:48:38am |
re: #277 Killgore Trout
And this is why Cook’s Illustrated gives its proofreader a credit in its list of those who contribute to the magazine.
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jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:48:39am |
re: #306 Killgore Trout
Instapundit is yammering about Waco and Oklahoma City bombing again today…
I just don’t understand the instinct to side with terrorists and pedophile cults against our elected leadership. This attitude is why domestic terrorism from the right is a real risk these days. All it takes is for widespread support for a militia or cult that gets raided and we have a real mess on our hands again.
Why yes you could almost say that whenever anything goes bad they’re rushing to blame the American Government first… now what does that remind me of…..
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laZardo Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:48:40am |
re: #312 Renaissance_Man
American politics: You know you can’t please everyone…and try to do so anyway.
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Locker Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:49:11am |
re: #316 Renaissance_Man
The instinct is there because the most important trait to the Conservative cult is how much someone/something hates liberals or is hated by them. If liberals are against neo-Nazis, right wing militias, and the like, some part of the cult mind wants to defend them. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Interesting. I was just thinking how humorous it is that teabaggers don’t see to have anywhere near as much problem with nazis as they do with liberals pretending to be nazis… that REALLY pisses them off. Definitely the reason I think the guy in the lead article took so much shit… not because he would embarrass them but because they finally had a real life liberal to get their hands on … or so they thought.
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Dom Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:49:19am |
re: #312 Renaissance_Man
Presentation matters.
And with good reason, since presentation is a lot harder to fake than a script.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:49:52am |
re: #314 jamesfirecat
There’s having an accent and being an idiot.
What accent causes someone to see the word “nuclear” and pronounce it “nuc-ul-lar” instead of “new-clear”.
The man or woman in charge of our atomic weapons should not speak in a way that makes me compare them to Homer Simpson.
No one “makes” you do anything. Just your own worthless, nothing better to do crass, shitty-assed juvenile mentality enables you to make fun of someone with an accent or someone who speak a word a little differently than you expect of them. Feeling better than someone is a strong motivation to some people who wouldn’t have any self esteem if they weren’t able to make fun of someone.
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:50:35am |
re: #306 Killgore Trout
Instapundit is yammering about Waco and Oklahoma City bombing again today…
I just don’t understand the instinct to side with terrorists and pedophile cults against our elected leadership. This attitude is why domestic terrorism from the right is a real risk these days. All it takes is for widespread support for a militia or cult that gets raided and we have a real mess on our hands again.
re: #316 Renaissance_Man
I’ll take the bait.
Maybe that’s not it, I mean it is possible that glenn reynolds isn’t siding with pedophile terrorists. Maybe it’s that some people remember ALL THE REASONS why McVeigh snapped and aren’t willing to be led astray by revisionist history. You could probably toss in the belief that our government is not infallible and that it should learn from its mistakes but you probably won’t.
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Locker Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:50:50am |
re: #323 Walter L. Newton
No one “makes” you do anything. Just your own worthless, nothing better to do crass, shitty-assed juvenile mentality enables you to make fun of someone with an accent or someone who speak a word a little differently than you expect of them. Feeling better than someone is a strong motivation to some people who wouldn’t have any self esteem if they weren’t able to make fun of someone.
You sure are a fine example of that concept on this particular comment, aren’t you bud? You betcha!
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researchok Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:52:14am |
re: #314 jamesfirecat
There’s having an accent and being an idiot.
What accent causes someone to see the word “nuclear” and pronounce it “nuc-ul-lar” instead of “new-clear”.
The man or woman in charge of our atomic weapons should not speak in a way that makes me compare them to Homer Simpson.
So Jimmy carter was an idiot (an idea that does have merit)?
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:52:55am |
re: #325 Locker
You sure are a fine example of that concept on this particular comment, aren’t you bud? You betcha!
I a wonderful example of someone point out a fact.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:53:31am |
re: #321 Locker
When Al Gore came out to warn us against Global Warming, he all but ensured that conservatives all over the would decide it was all bunkum
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What, me worry? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:53:59am |
re: #312 Renaissance_Man
Rather than get your knickers in a twist about it, you could just accept that when you’re in a position where your points of view are open to the public, how you communicate them is, if anything, more important than what you have to say. People as a whole are much less interested in content than how something is presented.
If you speak publicly in a folksy, slightly slurred drawl and mispronounce words, some people are going to think that’s everyman charm, others are going to think you sound like an uneducated rube. If you write in twitterspeak, some will think you’re edgy and hip, others will think you’re an illiterate imbecile. If you constantly speak in a breathless, melodramatic televangelist voice, your actual words can be soul-destroyingly idiotic and some people will still buy gold and survival seeds from you.
Presentation matters. It’s human nature. If you’re looking only for substantive criticism of Sarah Palin’s actual positions, then most of this board will be only too happy to oblige with that too.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong, per se, with politicians being an “every day” person. Clinton, for as brilliant as he is, had that hometown likeablility too, even with his southern drawl. So what. It isn’t how Palin says things that irritate me. Her politics irritate me.
This made me think of something. Last week, I got a call from one of my bosses’ clients confirming a meeting. The man on the phone was speaking oddly. Very slowly. I thought for a minute he was having another conversation with someone in the room until I realize he had a serious stutter. I don’t think I ever spoke to anyone with a stutter like that. Could such a person hold a political position? Probably never and that’s sad.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:54:09am |
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:54:42am |
re: #330 MandyManners
How fucking bigoted can one be?
It’s easier than making an intelligent point or comment.
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researchok Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:54:43am |
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Locker Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:54:45am |
I never understood how you can be pro-life and pro-death penalty at the same thing. I also never understood how you can be anti-elitist (quit acting like you are better than everyone else because you are educated) and pro-capitalist (you are better than everyone else if you have money) at the same time. Blows my mind.
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jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:55:15am |
re: #326 researchok
So Jimmy carter was an idiot (an idea that does have merit)?
I wouldn’t say that anyone who uses the phrase “Nuc-ul-lar” is an idiot.
I would say that they sound like an idiot, I may be misunderestimating them.
The thing that gets to me about is that this isn’t like if I heard Ted Kennedy say “Nu-cleah weapon” because then he’d be pronouncing the word in a way is consistent with his accent.
Is there an particular accent out there which leads to people pronouncing it Nuc-ul-lar?
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Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:55:26am |
re: #324 RogueOne
I think the widespread lies and revisionist history about Waco from the right are a very large contributor to the problem. It’s very much like what we’re seeing now. I’m not going to debate the particulars because it’s as pointless as debating a 9-11 Truther or Holocaust denier. But there’s no doubt in my mind that the revisionist history is dangerous and toxic.
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Locker Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:55:51am |
re: #328 Walter L. Newton
I a wonderful example of someone point out a fact.
I’m sorry oh great and terrible holder of the facts. No way you did that for your own gratification so you could feel superior to someone else. No siree!
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:56:24am |
re: #335 Locker
I never understood how you can be pro-life and pro-death penalty at the same thing. I also never understood how you can be anti-elitist (quit acting like you are better than everyone else because you are educated) and pro-capitalist (you are better than everyone else if you have money) at the same time. Blows my mind.
Or how one can be qualified enough to deal with complex issues of economics, science, technology and politics and still be “non-elitist” enough to appeal to Joe Sixpack and Working Mom
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:57:23am |
re: #335 Locker
I never understood how you can be pro-life and pro-death penalty at the same thing. I also never understood how you can be anti-elitist (quit acting like you are better than everyone else because you are educated) and pro-capitalist (you are better than everyone else if you have money) at the same time. Blows my mind.
then you should ask. because when “pro-capitalist” = “you are better than everyone else if you have money” in your mind, you have much to learn.
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jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:57:45am |
re: #330 MandyManners
How fucking bigoted can one be?
Okay then, tell you what I’ll turn over a new leaf, if someone can provide me with an explanation for why they have a particular accent that means it makes sense for them to say “nuc-ul-lar” the way I wouldn’t be surprised if Ted Kennedy had said “Nu-cleah” weapons.
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:57:46am |
re: #335 Locker
I never understood how you can be pro-life and pro-death penalty at the same thing. I also never understood how you can be anti-elitist (quit acting like you are better than everyone else because you are educated) and pro-capitalist (you are better than everyone else if you have money) at the same time. Blows my mind.
That isn’t entirely what being an “elitist” means. You forgot the portion “highly educated and therefore thinks they know more than you do about how you should live your life”.
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Locker Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:57:48am |
re: #333 Walter L. Newton
It’s easier than making an intelligent point or comment.
True I mean it’s so much easier to say BHO or code pink or socialist than it is to make an intelligent point or comment. I agree completely.
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Renaissance_Man Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:58:23am |
re: #331 marjoriemoon
I don’t think there’s anything wrong, per se, with politicians being an “every day” person.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it either. My point is solely that people will naturally like or dislike you based on presentation much more than they will based on what you say.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:58:23am |
re: #338 Locker
I’m sorry oh great and terrible holder of the facts. No way you did that for your own gratification so you could feel superior to someone else. No siree!
Correct.
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Locker Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:58:32am |
re: #342 RogueOne
That isn’t entirely what being an “elitist” means. You forgot the portion “highly educated and therefore thinks they know more than you do about how you should live your life”.
Oh! I get it! Like Christians! Makes perfect sense.
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Vicious Babushka Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:58:58am |
re: #331 marjoriemoon
I don’t think there’s anything wrong, per se, with politicians being an “every day” person. Clinton, for as brilliant as he is, had that hometown likeablility too, even with his southern drawl. So what. It isn’t how Palin says things that irritate me. Her politics irritate me.
This made me think of something. Last week, I got a call from one of my bosses’ clients confirming a meeting. The man on the phone was speaking oddly. Very slowly. I thought for a minute he was having another conversation with someone in the room until I realize he had a serious stutter. I don’t think I ever spoke to anyone with a stutter like that. Could such a person hold a political position? Probably never and that’s sad.
Moses stuttered.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:59:19am |
re: #342 RogueOne
That isn’t entirely what being an “elitist” means. You forgot the portion “highly educated and therefore thinks they know more than you do about how you should live your life”.
How about “very assured of one’s religious and moral convictions and therefore think they know more about you on how to run your life”?
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jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:59:29am |
re: #344 Renaissance_Man
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it either. My point is solely that people will naturally like or dislike you based on presentation much more than they will based on what you say.
Citizens of Berlin, I am a doughnut!
Citizens of Frankfurt I am a frankfurter!
Citizens of Hamburg I am a hamburger!
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cenotaphium Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:01:07am |
re: #342 RogueOne
That isn’t entirely what being an “elitist” means. You forgot the portion “highly educated and therefore thinks they know more than you do about how you should live your life”.
That, sir, is a bigoted slur against elitists. We simply put a greater value on quality over quantity.
It just happens that we’re often in a position to value our quality over your quantity.
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researchok Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:01:37am |
re: #341 jamesfirecat
Okay then, tell you what I’ll turn over a new leaf, if someone can provide me with an explanation for why they have a particular accent that means it makes sense for them to say “nuc-ul-lar” the way I wouldn’t be surprised if Ted Kennedy had said “Nu-cleah” weapons.
Who cares why someone has trouble with pronunciation? What does that have to do with anything?
Adam Michnik of Poland, stutters, stammers and mispronounces words all the time. he is one of Europe’s great contemporary thinkers.
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Locker Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:02:56am |
re: #351 researchok
Who cares why someone has trouble with pronunciation? What does that have to do with anything?
Adam Michnik of Poland, stutters, stammers and mispronounces words all the time. he is one of Europe’s great contemporary thinkers.
I would offer that a behavior which is due to impairment is not the same as a behavior which is due to willful negligence.
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Stanley Sea Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:02:56am |
For an excellent animation of the volcano’s plume traveling over Europe go to Huffington Post’s front page.
And courtesy of Reine here is how you pronounce Eyjafjallajokull:
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:03:00am |
re: #337 Killgore Trout
I think the widespread lies and revisionist history about Waco from the right are a very large contributor to the problem. It’s very much like what we’re seeing now. I’m not going to debate the particulars because it’s as pointless as debating a 9-11 Truther or Holocaust denier. But there’s no doubt in my mind that the revisionist history is dangerous and toxic.
and I place the problems with the militarization and the abuse of the police departments with voters like you. Those who believe the government and law enforcement can do no wrong and dead cops and civilians are the price to pay for an orderly society. You set up a nice straw man there, there isn’t a conspiracy alledged anywhere. We all saw what happened live on tv, we see it play out everyday in cities and towns all over the country. It’s all perfectly acceptable until it’s you on the receiving end of an overly aggressive police action.
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What, me worry? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:03:30am |
re: #344 Renaissance_Man
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it either. My point is solely that people will naturally like or dislike you based on presentation much more than they will based on what you say.
I think you’re right, but I also think it’s a negative commentary on our society.
Moses, btw, had serious stutter. Just sayin :)
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What, me worry? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:03:48am |
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:03:54am |
re: #346 Locker
Oh! I get it! Like Christians! Makes perfect sense.
No, no, no, you’re still confused. They’re called so-cons.
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jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:04:12am |
re: #351 researchok
Who cares why someone has trouble with pronunciation? What does that have to do with anything?
Adam Michnik of Poland, stutters, stammers and mispronounces words all the time. he is one of Europe’s great contemporary thinkers.
Well like I said being unable to pronounce it “New-clear” could be a sign that someone has a condition beyond their control like the hypothetical accent I’m asking about or being born with a stutter.
On the other hand it could be the sign that someone has a lazy mind and doesn’t want to bother to even learn their native tongue properly.
Clearly we need to examine all possible causes that might lead to the former before we are allowed to conclude the later.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:05:42am |
re: #355 RogueOne
and I place the problems with the militarization and the abuse of the police departments with voters like you. Those who believe the government and law enforcement can do no wrong and dead cops and civilians are the price to pay for an orderly society. You set up a nice straw man there
Don’t you mean “I set up a nice straw man there?”
Accusing others of believing the government and law enforcement can do no wrong is tiresome hyperbole.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:06:03am |
re: #353 Locker
I would offer that a behavior which is due to impairment is not the same as a behavior which is due to willful negligence.
I think that is the problem I had with Bush’s pronunciation of “newkular” …
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jaunte Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:06:22am |
re: #354 Stanley Sea
And courtesy of Reine here is how you pronounce Eyjafjallajokull:
[Link: upload.wikimedia.org…]
Ok, so according to that, the Icelanders can’t spell what they’re pronouncing…
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:06:39am |
re: #354 Stanley Sea
For an excellent animation of the volcano’s plume traveling over Europe go to Huffington Post’s front page.
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com…]
And courtesy of Reine here is how you pronounce Eyjafjallajokull:
[Link: upload.wikimedia.org…]
I’m just a Llokuljokull
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cenotaphium Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:07:07am |
re: #351 researchok
Who cares why someone has trouble with pronunciation? What does that have to do with anything?
Adam Michnik of Poland, stutters, stammers and mispronounces words all the time. he is one of Europe’s great contemporary thinkers.
This thread hasn’t really taught you anything?
Lots of people, if not most people, value presentation - either consciously or not. You can take a great political manifesto and try to feed it through twitter and see if it doesn’t sound like the recess scribbles of a highschooler.
It shouldn’t be a shocking revelation that people with stutters, stammers and mispronounciations aren’t well represented in the public figure posts, just as it should be a shocking revelation that people can overcome their limitations.
Just because we strive to look past stereotypes and presentations doesn’t mean we should ignore the power they hold over perception.
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Locker Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:07:13am |
re: #358 RogueOne
No, no, no, you’re still confused. They’re called so-cons.
Laugh, I like it. I shouldn’t have picked soley on Christians but the short snark is the best snark. Just commenting on the similar nature of organizations driven by evangelism.
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jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:08:20am |
re: #363 ralphieboy
I’m just a Llokuljokull
No its spelled Luxury Yacht but its pronounced Throat Wobbler Mangrove.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:08:32am |
re: #364 cenotaphium
A poor friend of mine at work would have been promoted already if he didn’t have weak voice and say “um” after every word.
I don’t know how to help someone like that; he says “um” because he’s nervous and then he’s nervous because he’s saying “um”.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:09:38am |
re: #355 RogueOne
and I place the problems with the militarization and the abuse of the police departments with voters like you.
As you should. I happily pay taxes so the government can aggressively raid well armed anti-government militias, pedophile doomsday cults, etc. It’s money well spent.
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Locker Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:09:52am |
re: #361 ralphieboy
I think that is the problem I had with Bush’s pronunciation of “newkular” …
May seem funny but I sincerely believe that with Bush the line between impairment and willful negligence is too fine to determine. Perhaps he can’t help it….
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Renaissance_Man Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:10:19am |
re: #351 researchok
Who cares why someone has trouble with pronunciation? What does that have to do with anything?
Adam Michnik of Poland, stutters, stammers and mispronounces words all the time. he is one of Europe’s great contemporary thinkers.
Could it be that difficulties with presentation are a big reason why Rush Limbaugh probably has more people valuing his thoughts than Adam Michnik?
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:10:40am |
re: #359 jamesfirecat
Well like I said being unable to pronounce it “New-clear” could be a sign that someone has a condition beyond their control like the hypothetical accent I’m asking about or being born with a stutter.
On the other hand it could be the sign that someone has a lazy mind and doesn’t want to bother to even learn their native tongue properly.
Clearly we need to examine all possible causes that might lead to the former before we are allowed to conclude the later.
So…
We certainly have a number of ethnic groups in this country that certainly have accents, and unique and interesting ways of pronouncing word, many words for a matter of fact.
Those are lazy minded people who do not have any desire to learn their native tongue properly?
And what is proper? Very bigoted statements on your part.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:11:15am |
re: #368 Obdicut
A poor friend of mine at work would have been promoted already if he didn’t have weak voice and say “um” after every word.
I don’t know how to help someone like that; he says “um” because he’s nervous and then he’s nervous because he’s saying “um”.
practice. if he really wants to get past it, he should both record himself speaking and videotape himself. video is especially helpful because speaking on camera can induce nervousness too, and it’s harnessing/overcoming the nervous energy which needs to be rehearsed.
(ex-actor here…i’d still be acting if i could make a decent living at it)
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Locker Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:12:23am |
re: #373 Walter L. Newton
So…
We certainly have a number of ethnic groups in this country that certainly have accents, and unique and interesting ways of pronouncing word, many words for a matter of fact.
Those are lazy minded people who do not have any desire to learn their native tongue properly?
And what is proper? Very bigoted statements on your part.
You are the king of accusing someone of behavior that you, yourself, are exhibiting. If your accusation is correct then your statement is just as bigoted against people who react to presentation.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:12:51am |
It’s always the same thing… follow the money…
“Al Gore, the self-styled squeakiest-clean and deepest-green politician in American history, has some explaining to do this weekend. His environmental organisation has taken money to raise awareness about the need for clean water from a controversial chemicals company involved in the aftermath of one of the world’s worst pollution disasters.”
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researchok Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:13:01am |
re: #364 cenotaphium
This thread hasn’t really taught you anything?
Lots of people, if not most people, value presentation - either consciously or not. You can take a great political manifesto and try to feed it through twitter and see if it doesn’t sound like the recess scribbles of a highschooler.
It shouldn’t be a shocking revelation that people with stutters, stammers and mispronounciations aren’t well represented in the public figure posts, just as it should be a shocking revelation that people can overcome their limitations.
Just because we strive to look past stereotypes and presentations doesn’t mean we should ignore the power they hold over perception.
Yes, that country bumpkin Abe Lincoln was a real rube who ought never have been in the White House. Same applies to Harry Truman.
Mother Teresa was one ugly bitch. I can’t imagine why she got any publicity.
I guess Paris Hilton is more your idea of a class act.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:13:11am |
anyone catch SNL last night?
the Carville impression was particularly on-point…it was like they took LGF topics from the past few days and made a sketch out of it.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:13:12am |
re: #375 Locker
You are the king of accusing someone of behavior that you, yourself, are exhibiting. If your accusation is correct then your statement is just as bigoted against people who react to presentation.
Nope. Try again.
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:13:24am |
re: #360 Obdicut
Don’t you mean “I set up a nice straw man there?”
Accusing others of believing the government and law enforcement can do no wrong is tiresome hyperbole.
Is it more tiresome hyperbole than calling people revisionist assholes and supporters of pedophile terrorists because they’re willing to look at the whole story of what happened? How about tossing us into a group with conspiracy loons like the truthers and holocaust deniers?
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:13:54am |
re: #376 Walter L. Newton
It’s always the same thing… follow the money…
“Al Gore, the self-styled squeakiest-clean and deepest-green politician in American history, has some explaining to do this weekend. His environmental organisation has taken money to raise awareness about the need for clean water from a controversial chemicals company involved in the aftermath of one of the world’s worst pollution disasters.”
[Link: www.independent.co.uk…]
yeah, i can’t imagine why he’s often mistrusted as a credible voice on environmental issues…
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jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:14:54am |
re: #373 Walter L. Newton
So…
We certainly have a number of ethnic groups in this country that certainly have accents, and unique and interesting ways of pronouncing word, many words for a matter of fact.
Those are lazy minded people who do not have any desire to learn their native tongue properly?
And what is proper? Very bigoted statements on your part.
I think proper is the way the word is laid out in the dictionary.
But I suppose that just shows that I’m a liberal because I want some kind of higher power to force down a single unified pronunciation of the words in our language upon the common man rather than allowing people to say pronoucne it “Lux-ury” just because they feel like it.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:14:59am |
re: #374 Aceofwhat?
I’ll pass that along to him. Thanks. I did tech work in theater, only did a little bit of acting. I have zero stage fright related to speaking my lines, only forgetting my blocking.
I think growing up with so many academics around the house all the time made me permanently unintimidated about public speaking.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:15:09am |
re: #373 Walter L. Newton
So…
We certainly have a number of ethnic groups in this country that certainly have accents, and unique and interesting ways of pronouncing word, many words for a matter of fact.
Those are lazy minded people who do not have any desire to learn their native tongue properly?
And what is proper? Very bigoted statements on your part.
But I would put forth that if these people want to rise beyond their disadvantaged status, they need to learn to express themselves clearly in their native language.
There are different levels of language. those that work for everyday use in the local neighborhood, those for public discourse and those for complex national & international scientific, technical, business and political relations.
As long as you just wanna hang in the ‘hood and chat with your own, then you need not learn anything past the first level.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:15:40am |
re: #381 Aceofwhat?
yeah, i can’t imagine why he’s often mistrusted as a credible voice on environmental issues…
Maybe because he is a “Do as I say, not as I do” type?
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Renaissance_Man Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:15:41am |
re: #377 researchok
Yes, that country bumpkin Abe Lincoln was a real rube who ought never have been in the White House. Same applies to Harry Truman.
Mother Teresa was one ugly bitch. I can’t imagine why she got any publicity.
I guess Paris Hilton is more your idea of a class act.
That’s either a really deliberate misrepresentation and strawman or small-minded snark based on blindly missing the point.
Neither is very becoming. I expect more from this forum.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:15:49am |
re: #375 Locker
You are the king of accusing someone of behavior that you, yourself, are exhibiting. If your accusation is correct then your statement is just as bigoted against people who react to presentation.
play dodgeball much in school?
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:15:54am |
re: #377 researchok
You’re ignoring his point in order to attack him. Why?
He’s clearly saying that the reality is that appearance matters, so pretending it doesn’t is idiotic.
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cenotaphium Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:16:09am |
re: #368 Obdicut
A poor friend of mine at work would have been promoted already if he didn’t have weak voice and say “um” after every word.
I don’t know how to help someone like that; he says “um” because he’s nervous and then he’s nervous because he’s saying “um”.
I can recommend exposure therapy. Active training to speak in front of an audience (or whatever triggers the nervousness). Start with a comfortable setting & then slowly ramp up the anxiety influences. Normally the acute anxiety will only last about 15 minutes, so it’s important that you stick to your guns for at least 20, or until it starts to subside.
I used to be a pretty bad speaker myself, but you can train it away. It’s just a matter of getting the confidence to get to the point where you can work through it.
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What, me worry? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:16:41am |
re: #364 cenotaphium
This thread hasn’t really taught you anything?
Lots of people, if not most people, value presentation - either consciously or not. You can take a great political manifesto and try to feed it through twitter and see if it doesn’t sound like the recess scribbles of a highschooler.
It shouldn’t be a shocking revelation that people with stutters, stammers and mispronounciations aren’t well represented in the public figure posts, just as it should be a shocking revelation that people can overcome their limitations.
Just because we strive to look past stereotypes and presentations doesn’t mean we should ignore the power they hold over perception.
I blame Hollywood. When Britney Spears was being called “fat”, she was still 2 sizes smaller than most American women.
Will Gabourey Sidibe ever get another movie? Maybe it’s just my perception, but I think the American public is a lot harder on women than they are on men in this regard.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:17:12am |
re: #384 ralphieboy
In Italy it’s even more direct, since the different dialects are often actually mutually incomprehensible. If a Piedmontese wants to make himself understood to an Abruzzan, they speak Roman Italian to do so.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:17:46am |
re: #354 Stanley Sea
For an excellent animation of the volcano’s plume traveling over Europe go to Huffington Post’s front page.
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com…]
And courtesy of Reine here is how you pronounce Eyjafjallajokull:
[Link: upload.wikimedia.org…]
I’ve been practicing, and I’m THERE. I can pronounce it, well, as close as an English speaker would be able to.
So - who’s impressed?
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cenotaphium Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:18:08am |
re: #377 researchok
Yes, that country bumpkin Abe Lincoln was a real rube who ought never have been in the White House. Same applies to Harry Truman.
Mother Teresa was one ugly bitch. I can’t imagine why she got any publicity.
I guess Paris Hilton is more your idea of a class act.
…lolwut?
Is this really in response to my post? I really hope you just misread something.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:18:39am |
re: #383 Obdicut
I’ll pass that along to him. Thanks. I did tech work in theater, only did a little bit of acting. I have zero stage fright related to speaking my lines, only forgetting my blocking.
I think growing up with so many academics around the house all the time made me permanently unintimidated about public speaking.
It’s just a rush for me. I’ll do community theater again when the kids are grown…being live on stage like that is heady. What some people call ‘butterflies’ I call ‘adrenaline’.
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jaunte Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:18:42am |
re: #392 reine.de.tout
I’ve been practicing, and I’m THERE. I can pronounce it, well, as close as an English speaker would be able to.
So - who’s impressed?
Ijk ahm!
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researchok Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:18:48am |
re: #386 Renaissance_Man
That’s either a really deliberate misrepresentation and strawman or small-minded snark based on blindly missing the point.
Neither is very becoming. I expect more from this forum.
No, that is exactly what you are saying.
Go back and read the original comment #314. That’s what I was responding to.
Further, given your response to my remarks- an personal attack, no less- , I can safely say you know very little, if anything of this forum.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:18:54am |
re: #392 reine.de.tout
I’ve been practicing, and I’m THERE. I can pronounce it, well, as close as an English speaker would be able to.
So - who’s impressed?
BFD.
///
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Charles Johnson Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:19:07am |
re: #376 Walter L. Newton
It’s always the same thing… follow the money…
“Al Gore, the self-styled squeakiest-clean and deepest-green politician in American history, has some explaining to do this weekend. His environmental organisation has taken money to raise awareness about the need for clean water from a controversial chemicals company involved in the aftermath of one of the world’s worst pollution disasters.”
[Link: www.independent.co.uk…]
What a ridiculous story. Gore takes money from Dow Chemical for a campaign to raise awareness about clean water, and that’s an outrageous outrage?
This one is really, really reaching for something to get upset about.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:20:01am |
re: #385 Cannadian Club Akbar
Maybe because he is a “Do as I say, not as I do” type?
my sentiments exactly.
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Stanley Sea Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:20:01am |
re: #392 reine.de.tout
I’ve been practicing, and I’m THERE. I can pronounce it, well, as close as an English speaker would be able to.
So - who’s impressed?
Only when you use it in a sentence!
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Renaissance_Man Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:20:01am |
re: #390 marjoriemoon
I blame Hollywood. When Britney Spears was being called “fat”, she was still 2 sizes smaller than most American women.
Will Gabourey Sidibe ever get another movie? Maybe it’s just my perception, but I think the American public is a lot harder on women than they are on men in this regard.
It’s not just the American or Hollywood mindset. Humans in general will always be more visually judgemental of women. I had a woman once complain to me, ‘You guys have it easy. Women have to actually be beautiful to be considered beautiful. Guys just have to act like they are.’ It’s true.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:20:27am |
re: #384 ralphieboy
But I would put forth that if these people want to rise beyond their disadvantaged status, they need to learn to express themselves clearly in their native language.
There are different levels of language. those that work for everyday use in the local neighborhood, those for public discourse and those for complex national & international scientific, technical, business and political relations.
As long as you just wanna hang in the ‘hood and chat with your own, then you need not learn anything past the first level.
Really… then Houston, we have a problem. Our own president stammer, stutters and has a terrible habit of trailing off on a subject when he is speaking extemporaneously.
Hillary Clinton was know to “adapt” her underlying southern accent to sound more inviting to certain audiences.
These are just two examples of highly placed public figures who have their own unique styles of speaking, and one could be called possibly deficient and the other manipulative.
But I wouldn’t.
Sorry, I think is is bigoted to paint people with lower intelligence just because they have unique speaking styles or come from an ethic background which automatically leads to certain speech patterns.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:20:43am |
re: #391 Obdicut
In Italy it’s even more direct, since the different dialects are often actually mutually incomprehensible. If a Piedmontese wants to make himself understood to an Abruzzan, they speak Roman Italian to do so.
One of the pillars of German nationalism in the XIXth century was also “Hochdeutsch”, the “official” German dialect, which was promoted to assist in uniting a country wil a patchwork of impenetrable dialects.
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:21:32am |
re: #370 Killgore Trout
As you should. I happily pay taxes so the government can aggressively raid well armed anti-government militias, pedophile doomsday cults, etc. It’s money well spent.
Because that tactic worked so well? And even then wouldn’t it be great if that’s all they were used for? Instead those tactics are used to shoot innocent people in their beds and 92 yr old grandmas.
Keep up the good work.
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Renaissance_Man Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:22:03am |
re: #396 researchok
No, that is exactly what you are saying.
Go back and read the original comment #314. That’s what I was responding to.
Further, given your response to my remarks- an personal attack, no less- , I can safely say you know very little, if anything of this forum.
If you were responding to comment 314, you should have actually responded to that comment, rather than to comment 364.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:22:05am |
re: #394 Aceofwhat?
Yeah. I liked being on stage a lot, it was really interesting, but the theater program at my college was a drama llama petting zoo. Doing tech work was fun because you got to see all the terrible soap opera goings-on without actually participating, and no one ever wanted to piss off the techs.
I got an invitation to join the comedy troupe at college— and a lot of people from that troupe go on to do bigger stuff; I sometimes wonder what I’d be doing if I had done that. Unknowable.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:22:13am |
re: #398 Charles
What a ridiculous story. Gore takes money from Dow Chemical for a campaign to raise awareness about clean water, and that’s an outrageous outrage?
This one is really, really reaching for something to get upset about.
I’m not getting upset, but evidently there are some environmental groups that are don’t so peachy-keen about the whole arrangement. Don’t try to pin any outrage on my part.
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jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:22:28am |
re: #390 marjoriemoon
I blame Hollywood. When Britney Spears was being called “fat”, she was still 2 sizes smaller than most American women.
Will Gabourey Sidibe ever get another movie? Maybe it’s just my perception, but I think the American public is a lot harder on women than they are on men in this regard.
There are/ have been a number of fat male celebrities, actors even, Drew Cary, Wayne Knight, Chris Farley, come instantly to mind with Joe Don Baker in the back because I just watched him on MST3K. How many prominent fat female actresses have their been? Roseanne Barr is the only one I can think of at the moment, but then I’m bad with names.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:22:46am |
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researchok Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:23:34am |
re: #393 cenotaphium
…lolwut?
Is this really in response to my post? I really hope you just misread something.
Perhaps it was the personal insult directed at me.
As for your other remarks, I don’t need you to tell me that presentation matters.
That said, it is clearly more important to you than it is to me.
The one thing LGF excels at is getting to the relevance of content.
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What, me worry? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:23:36am |
re: #401 Renaissance_Man
It’s not just the American or Hollywood mindset. Humans in general will always be more visually judgemental of women. I had a woman once complain to me, ‘You guys have it easy. Women have to actually be beautiful to be considered beautiful. Guys just have to act like they are.’ It’s true.
Indeed. So the question is, if Sarah Palin looked like Bella Abzug, would she be as popular??
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:23:46am |
re: #402 Walter L. Newton
Really… then Houston, we have a problem. Our own president stammer, stutters and has a terrible habit of trailing off on a subject when he is speaking extemporaneously.
Hillary Clinton was know to “adapt” her underlying southern accent to sound more inviting to certain audiences.
These are just two examples of highly placed public figures who have their own unique styles of speaking, and one could be called possibly deficient and the other manipulative.
But I wouldn’t.
Sorry, I think is is bigoted to paint people with lower intelligence just because they have unique speaking styles or come from an ethic background which automatically leads to certain speech patterns.
There is the matter of style and there is the matter of the underlying capacity to think and speak clearly. We need politicians who can do both. For the rest of us, both are optional…
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:23:59am |
re: #396 researchok
You’re attacking people for things they’re not saying, and appear to be conflating three people.
415 |
Sigma_x Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:24:31am |
Went to the NY premiere of Banksy’s movie on Friday, in lieu of going to France (thanks, Iceland!)
I recommend it to anyone interested in art.
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jaunte Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:24:42am |
re: #412 marjoriemoon
Indeed. So the question is, if Sarah Palin looked like Bella Abzug, would she be as popular??
That might have driven her to put more thought into what she says.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:25:10am |
re: #392 reine.de.tout
I’ve been practicing, and I’m THERE. I can pronounce it, well, as close as an English speaker would be able to.
So - who’s impressed?
i’m bedazzled over here…
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reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:26:08am |
re: #409 Stanley Sea
Avalehrvek ??
Best as I can figure:
Ayahvikh - lAyavkh.
capital ‘A” being a long a, lower-case being a short a, me being illiterate in the ways of marking pronuciation.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:26:58am |
re: #390 marjoriemoon
I blame Hollywood. When Britney Spears was being called “fat”, she was still 2 sizes smaller than most American women.
Will Gabourey Sidibe ever get another movie? Maybe it’s just my perception, but I think the American public is a lot harder on women than they are on men in this regard.
She’s hosting SNL next week…
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Renaissance_Man Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:26:58am |
re: #412 marjoriemoon
Indeed. So the question is, if Sarah Palin looked like Bella Abzug, would she be as popular??
Clearly not. Is it fair? No. But it’s how men and women are.
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researchok Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:28:15am |
re: #414 Obdicut
You’re attacking people for things they’re not saying, and appear to be conflating three people.
You are correct. Too many birds. That said, they are birds of a feather.
Content, not style is what really counts. On that I know you and I agree.
FYI, Media Matters really has cleaned up their act (my homework!). They are partisan but they really are doing a good job. Kudos to them.
| 422 |
What, me worry? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:30:11am |
re: #408 jamesfirecat
There are/ have been a number of fat male celebrities, actors even, Drew Cary, Wayne Knight, Chris Farley, come instantly to mind with Joe Don Baker in the back because I just watched him on MST3K. How many prominent fat female actresses have their been? Roseanne Barr is the only one I can think of at the moment, but then I’m bad with names.
Not many white ones anyway. Look at the sitcoms where white female actors are usually thin and black female actors are not. Ack, don’t get me started.
| 423 |
Reginald Perrin Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:30:25am |
re: #407 Walter L. Newton
I’m not getting upset
Now that we have established that you are not upset, it’s time to find out if you are concerned?
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What, me worry? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:31:30am |
re: #420 Renaissance_Man
Clearly not. Is it fair? No. But it’s how men and women are.
I don’t think it’s acceptable. Maybe for Hollywood were looks are more important, but certainly not in politics.
Although Jaunte had a point lol Ugly people have to try harder :p
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:32:34am |
re: #423 Reginald Perrin
Now that we have established that you are not upset, it’s time to find out if you are concerned?
I passed on the fucking story to the thread… that’s it.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:34:36am |
re: #401 Renaissance_Man
It’s not just the American or Hollywood mindset. Humans in general will always be more visually judgemental of women. I had a woman once complain to me, ‘You guys have it easy. Women have to actually be beautiful to be considered beautiful. Guys just have to act like they are.’ It’s true.
i don’t disagree in general, but smart and talented women are dead sexy.
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cenotaphium Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:35:32am |
re: #421 researchok
You are correct. Too many birds. That said, they are birds of a feather.
Content, not style is what really counts. On that I know you and I agree.
We looked too much alike for you to separate us? Is this irony, or one of those “unfortunate coincidences”?
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:35:47am |
This might be the (unintentionally) funniest music video ever made:
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:36:39am |
re: #423 Reginald Perrin
Now that we have established that you are not upset, it’s time to find out if you are concerned?
i dunno about Walter…i’m not concerned…but i am amused.
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researchok Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:36:52am |
re: #427 cenotaphium
We looked too much alike for you to separate us? Is this irony, or one of those “unfortunate coincidences”?
[Video]
Actually, it’s about content for me, as I have noted.
I don’t give style primacy.
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Renaissance_Man Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:37:07am |
re: #424 marjoriemoon
I don’t think it’s acceptable. Maybe for Hollywood were looks are more important, but certainly not in politics.
Although Jaunte had a point lol Ugly people have to try harder :p
Intellectually, it’s not acceptable, no. But hoping that humans as a whole will look past exteriors and presentation, whether that presentation be visual or in how a person speaks, and focus more on content, is tilting at windmills.
It’s hardwired into us. We want our men to be tall and our women to be beautiful. We want the speech and presentation of our leaders to reflect the things we value. How our leaders make us feel is far, far more important than what they say or do.
It may be a sad truth, but it’s a reality that all of us must deal with until the day humans evolve into beings of pure energy and thought.
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Vicious Babushka Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:37:13am |
re: #408 jamesfirecat
There are/ have been a number of fat male celebrities, actors even, Drew Cary, Wayne Knight, Chris Farley, come instantly to mind with Joe Don Baker in the back because I just watched him on MST3K. How many prominent fat female actresses have their been? Roseanne Barr is the only one I can think of at the moment, but then I’m bad with names.
Rosie O’Donnell
Tess O’Shea
Mama Cass
Kirstie Alley
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What, me worry? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:38:25am |
re: #419 Aceofwhat?
She’s hosting SNL next week…
Gabby? Certainly black actors have come a very, very long way from even 30 years ago, but they still have a long way to go. When was the last time you saw black actors in a romantic comedy that didn’t have an all black cast? Hollywood, for all their “liberalness”, is still very much segregated.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:38:52am |
re: #430 Aceofwhat?
i dunno about Walter…i’m not concerned…but i am amused.
On a lighter note. Here is the view from my “office” when I am working the self-scan station at the supermarket. Keeps reminding me why I’m living up here and why having a job, any job that keeps one busy and employed, is better than sitting on ones butt.
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Sigma_x Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:39:46am |
re: #434 marjoriemoon
Gabby? Certainly black actors have come a very, very long way from even 30 years ago, but they still have a long way to go. When was the last time you saw black actors in a romantic comedy that didn’t have an all black cast? Hollywood, for all their “liberalness”, is still very much segregated.
Rachel Getting Married, couple of years ago.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:41:10am |
re: #433 Alouette
Rosie O’Donnell
Tess O’Shea
Mama Cass
Kirstie Alley
Mo ‘Nique
Queen Latifah
Divine?
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:42:07am |
re: #434 marjoriemoon
Gabby? Certainly black actors have come a very, very long way from even 30 years ago, but they still have a long way to go. When was the last time you saw black actors in a romantic comedy that didn’t have an all black cast? Hollywood, for all their “liberalness”, is still very much segregated.
can’t disagree with you there…
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What, me worry? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:42:15am |
re: #432 Renaissance_Man
Intellectually, it’s not acceptable, no. But hoping that humans as a whole will look past exteriors and presentation, whether that presentation be visual or in how a person speaks, and focus more on content, is tilting at windmills.
It’s hardwired into us. We want our men to be tall and our women to be beautiful. We want the speech and presentation of our leaders to reflect the things we value. How our leaders make us feel is far, far more important than what they say or do.
It may be a sad truth, but it’s a reality that all of us must deal with until the day humans evolve into beings of pure energy and thought.
I think it’s gotten worse instead of better though. Maybe it’s because plastic surgery is more popular and more accessible today. The emphasis is on style versus substance now than ever before and that’s a backwards movement to me.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:42:50am |
re: #210 MandyManners
SNIPOne of the photographs shows a sign from ANSWER LA.
I’m still gonna take their side against Lenny the Tattooed Nazi.
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What, me worry? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:43:33am |
re: #433 Alouette
Rosie O’Donnell
Tess O’Shea
Mama Cass
Kirstie Alley
Kirstie is a great example. Her career has been struggling and it’s because of her weight. It shouldn’t be.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:43:37am |
re: #440 MandyManners
Delta Burke.
Kathy Bates (but she was slim and good looking in the 70s movie Straight Time.)
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:44:16am |
re: #436 Walter L. Newton
On a lighter note. Here is the view from my “office” when I am working the self-scan station at the supermarket. Keeps reminding me why I’m living up here and why having a job, any job that keeps one busy and employed, is better than sitting on ones butt.
wow. i like living 15min from the beach, but i’ll be honest, i can’t look at mountains without yearning…
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What, me worry? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:44:29am |
Think about it. You’re all mentioning heavy set actresses of 20 years ago.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:45:10am |
re: #445 Mad Al-Jaffee
Kathy Bates (but she was slim and good looking in the 70s movie Straight Time.)
Camryn Manheim
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:45:44am |
re: #448 marjoriemoon
Think about it. You’re all mentioning heavy set actresses of 20 years ago.
I mentioned two who are currently acting, and I think both have won Oscars.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:45:51am |
re: #268 Athens Runaway
I’ve never understood this dialectal snobbery that you guys do. People from different places say words differently. Does not talking with an Ivy League accent make me or you a lesser person?
What does an Ivy League accent sound like?
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What, me worry? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:46:36am |
re: #437 Sigma_x
Rachel Getting Married, couple of years ago.
I never head of that movie! I’ll look it up.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:47:56am |
re: #452 SanFranciscoZionist
What does an Ivy League accent sound like?
“Thank you sir, may I have another?”
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What, me worry? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:48:22am |
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:48:38am |
re: #277 Killgore Trout
A word of warning to cookbook proofreaders…
If you invite appropriately colored friends to dinner, you can cook with fresh ground black people, instead of the dried stuff.
(Note, these friends may never come to your house for dinner again. And they may never speak to you again. And they might have you arrested for a-salt and buttery.)
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reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:48:42am |
re: #452 SanFranciscoZionist
What does an Ivy League accent sound like?
Not like I sound, that’s for sure.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:49:18am |
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:50:13am |
re: #454 MandyManners
Ah pahked mah fahtha’s cah in Havahd Yahd.
Linguist in general call this a “port” accent, and you can find this all up and down the east coast to Florida… they vary slightly in tone and the way some words are pronounced, but they all stem from the same roots, multiple ethnic groups from different places conjugating in a port city, and a melding of the accents and pronunciation styles.
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albusteve Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:50:22am |
re: #447 Aceofwhat?
wow. i like living 15min from the beach, but i’ll be honest, i can’t look at mountains without yearning…
that’s not a mountain in the pic…just a small nubb….Sandia Mt looms over Albuquerque at over 10k, with no foothills to diminish it’s size, and it is it’s own slide show, with the changing clouds and light and colors
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:52:18am |
re: #461 albusteve
that’s not a mountain in the pic…just a small nubb…Sandia Mt looms over Albuquerque at over 10k, with no foothills to diminish it’s size, and it is it’s own slide show, with the changing clouds and light and colors
i know what you mean…but i live in Jacksonville. it looks like a mountain compared to the flatland around here…
Sandia - world’s longest arial tramway, right?
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What, me worry? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:52:23am |
re: #459 Mad Al-Jaffee
I’m white, and I have nothing against white actresses being overweight.
hehe Neither do I. And thank goodness for me, neither does my husband. (He likes his wimmins round :>)
I don’t know, maybe I’m wrong, but I was trying to think of thin, black actresses and all I can come up with is Halle Berry.
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SixDegrees Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:52:43am |
re: #443 SanFranciscoZionist
I’m still gonna take their side against Lenny the Tattooed Nazi.
It isn’t necessary to “take sides”; idiocy isn’t some kind of zero-sum game where one has to agree with any and all opponents to an odious viewpoint. It’s perfectly reasonable to reject BOTH the white supremacists AND the ANSWER-bots. Both are equally deserving of scorn.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:52:51am |
re: #462 Aceofwhat?
aerial. pimf. i guess one cuppa wasn’t enough this lovely morning…
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reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:52:58am |
re: #460 Walter L. Newton
Linguist in general call this a “port” accent, and you can find this all up and down the east coast to Florida… they vary slightly in tone and the way some words are pronounced, but they all stem from the same roots, multiple ethnic groups from different places conjugating in a port city, and a melding of the accents and pronunciation styles.
It’s called the Irish Channel dialect in NOLA, and from the Irish Channel wiki:
The mostly working class neighborhood was, as the name implies, originally settled largely by immigrants from Ireland in the early 19th century. However early on the area also had people of other ethnicities, including German, Italian, and African American, living nearby each other.
Through the early 20th century much of the population worked in the port of New Orleans before modern shipping innovations greatly reduced the need for stevedores and similar jobs. There were also local breweries in the area.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:54:39am |
re: #308 Walter L. Newton
Well the way he was manhandled was too much, but at the same time, if nobody attempted to get him to leave the event, then a picture of him and his sign would probably be showing up under a thread topic on some blog as “Teabonics of the day.”
You loose if ya do, you loose if ya don’t.
I seriously doubt that anyone would show a picture of a man in a bright pink hat showing a correctly spelled sign saying “I like ham” and an example of ‘Teabonics of the day’.
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wiffersnapper Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:54:39am |
Embrace the pig: BACON!
Speaking of which, I found this funny bacon website for everyone to enjoy. Ham it up!
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:55:06am |
re: #461 albusteve
that’s not a mountain in the pic…just a small nubb…Sandia Mt looms over Albuquerque at over 10k, with no foothills to diminish it’s size, and it is it’s own slide show, with the changing clouds and light and colors
Well, actually it is, but in general, this area is still considered foothills, that “hill” is over 10,000 feet, there for a mountain. If I had walked out into the parking lot and taken a picture in the other direction, you would see granite faced cliffs and other features that are more recognized with mountains.
The Sandia range is a severe uplift, where as the Rockies in this area spread over almost 250 miles, although you can find some sheer spikes peppered though out the range in Colorado.
The uplift becomes more defined when you cross into Canada.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:55:34am |
re: #458 reine.de.tout
Not like I sound, that’s for sure.
And, going off on a tangent here, a particular personal sore spot if you will - the accent of my speech is quite often used in movies to ensure the audience knows that particular character is stupid.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:55:45am |
re: #297 Athens Runaway
Well, since the consensus here is that if you have any kind of socially unacceptable (Southern, Mat-Su Valley accent, or Southwestern) accent or misuse the English language, you’re not allowed to have any kind of role in governing or public debate, I’ll be moseying along for today. No sense trying to argue my point further.
I hope you guys never find out that the president pronounces “corpsman” as “corpseman”, or that he uses different dialects for different crowds and situations. Queen’s English FTW.
Personally, I judge people based on what they say, not how they say it. I is stoopid konservaitve, though, so whatev. :)
Huh. Were you this worked up when Clinton was referred to continually as ‘Bubba’?
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:56:31am |
re: #462 Aceofwhat?
i know what you mean…but i live in Jacksonville. it looks like a mountain compared to the flatland around here…
Sandia - world’s longest arial tramway, right?
No. Monte Blanc in France
In the US, Mount Washington is longest in feet.
Sandia Tram has the LONGEST span between two towers in the US.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:57:06am |
re: #463 marjoriemoon
hehe Neither do I. And thank goodness for me, neither does my husband. (He likes his wimmins round :>)
I don’t know, maybe I’m wrong, but I was trying to think of thin, black actresses and all I can come up with is Halle Berry.
Grace Jones
Angela Bassett
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:57:56am |
re: #472 Walter L. Newton
No. Monte Blanc in France
[Link: www.remontees-mecaniques.net…]
In the US, Mount Washington is longest in feet.
Sandia Tram has the LONGEST span between two towers in the US.
thanks. i must have missed the ‘between two towers’ part when i heard it a while ago…
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:58:05am |
re: #326 researchok
So Jimmy carter was an idiot (an idea that does have merit)?
Possibly. However, my concern about Palin is that I suspect she does not say ‘nuke-you-lar’ for regional reasons, I think she says it because Bush said it like that, and she thinks it’s folksier.
That’s annoying.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:59:31am |
re: #475 SanFranciscoZionist
Possibly. However, my concern about Palin is that I suspect she does not say ‘nuke-you-lar’ for regional reasons, I think she says it because Bush said it like that, and she thinks it’s folksier.
That’s annoying.
Maybe she says it that way because Carter did.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:59:51am |
re: #474 Aceofwhat?
thanks. i must have missed the ‘between two towers’ part when i heard it a while ago…
I’ve ridden all of the ones I mentioned. The Monte Blanc tram is in two “pieces.” The first tram is a gentle climb, the second one, right up against the face of the cliffs with the glaciers is really amazing.
The seond part of the trip, (see pictures) is the segment used for one of the Bond movies where they were fighting on top of a tram car.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:59:58am |
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:00:54am |
re: #477 Walter L. Newton
I’ve ridden all of the ones I mentioned. The Monte Blanc tram is in two “pieces.” The first tram is a gentle climb, the second one, right up against the face of the cliffs with the glaciers is really amazing.
The seond part of the trip, (see pictures) is the segment used for one of the Bond movies where they were fighting on top of a tram car.
do you ski at all?
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:01:35am |
re: #342 RogueOne
That isn’t entirely what being an “elitist” means. You forgot the portion “highly educated and therefore thinks they know more than you do about how you should live your life”.
Ah, bull. If that’s the definition, every right-wing pundit out there is an ‘elitist’, but somehow the charge only slings one way.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:01:58am |
re: #479 Aceofwhat?
do you ski at all?
Use to in the 60’s when I was living in Northern New Jersey (don’t laugh, there are some places to ski there)… but not since.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:02:24am |
re: #478 Aceofwhat?
Zoe Saldana…rowr…
I bet you’ll put The 4400 on your netflix queue after this post. :)
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:03:04am |
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:03:22am |
re: #480 SanFranciscoZionist
Even Wiki knows:
en.wikipedia.org
Elitism is the belief or attitude that some individuals who supposedly form an elite — a select group of people with, intellect, wealth, specialized training or experience, or other distinctive attributes — are those whose views on a matter are to be taken the most seriously or carry the most weight or those who view their own views as so; whose views and/or actions are most likely to be constructive to society as a whole; or whose extraordinary skills, abilities or wisdom render them especially fit to govern.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:03:40am |
re: #479 Aceofwhat?
do you ski at all?
And just a note, the only skiing people do from that mountain is the kind you see where people are slushing down the sides of glaciers, it’s not for anyone except experts.
People also hang glide down.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:04:21am |
re: #480 SanFranciscoZionist
Ah, bull. If that’s the definition, every right-wing pundit out there is an ‘elitist’, but somehow the charge only slings one way.
fairly or unfairly, left-leaning pols tend to be characterized as the type who will…say…regulate sodium intake. telling me how much salt i’m allowed to eat is elitist.
some folks made an excellent point above, i think, in that the right has “moralists”, who also think they know how you should run your life.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:05:08am |
re: #485 Walter L. Newton
That reminds me of something strange I saw on the bike path yesterday - a girl on cross country roller skis and holding poles.
That’s not as strange as the robot I saw last week.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:05:46am |
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ryannon Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:05:50am |
re: #219 MandyManners
Good on Answer (and anyone else) for confronting the Nazis.
I despise both, Nazis more than International Socialists.
I like International Barflies
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:06:53am |
re: #487 Mad Al-Jaffee
That reminds me of something strange I saw on the bike path yesterday - a girl on cross country roller skis and holding poles.
That’s not as strange as the robot I saw last week.
This is my favorite picture of the Monte Blanc tram…
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:07:50am |
re: #444 marjoriemoon
Kirstie is a great example. Her career has been struggling and it’s because of her weight. It shouldn’t be.
Her career has become about her weight. Is it up? Is it down? Is she going to be the Fat Woman forever, or rise from the ashes of her fat clothes?
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:08:55am |
re: #485 Walter L. Newton
And just a note, the only skiing people do from that mountain is the kind you see where people are slushing down the sides of glaciers, it’s not for anyone except experts.
People also hang glide down.
yeah, i don’t enjoy the whole steep slope thing. i can do jump-turns, but it’s not why i ski. actually, i almost always snowboard now…
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:09:55am |
re: #490 Walter L. Newton
This is my favorite picture of the Monte Blanc tram…
That’s actually a 3 story building on the top of that spire, complete with two restaurants, a museum and other facilities. The bridge leads over a chasm to an elevator that brings you tot he top on the next spire, where there is an observation station and a weather station.
It’s only about 10,00 feet. Monte Blanc’s peak is a bit to the south from the tram, and it’s only in the 12,000 feet range.
The alps look fantastic mainly because of the severe uplift and cliff faces, otherwise they are not that high.
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cenotaphium Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:10:57am |
re: #486 Aceofwhat?
fairly or unfairly, left-leaning pols tend to be characterized as the type who will…say…regulate sodium intake. telling me how much salt i’m allowed to eat is elitist.
some folks made an excellent point above, i think, in that the right has “moralists”, who also think they know how you should run your life.
So if one group wants to control what’s above your waistline, and the other what’s below.. who do we turn to when we want to tighten our belts?
That’s like a turducken of metaphor right there.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:11:07am |
re: #463 marjoriemoon
hehe Neither do I. And thank goodness for me, neither does my husband. (He likes his wimmins round :>)
I don’t know, maybe I’m wrong, but I was trying to think of thin, black actresses and all I can come up with is Halle Berry.
Angela Bassett, Gabrielle Union…they’re out there.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:12:42am |
re: #493 Walter L. Newton
aiguille = “needle”, if you didn’t already know that bit of trivia…
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:13:11am |
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:13:26am |
re: #494 cenotaphium
So if one group wants to control what’s above your waistline, and the other what’s below.. who do we turn to when we want to tighten our belts?
That’s like a turducken of metaphor right there.
tennis!!!
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:13:51am |
re: #496 Aceofwhat?
aiguille = “needle”, if you didn’t already know that bit of trivia…
Er… yea… midi = middle or south (don’t ask me why). The translation I have seen is “Needle of the South.”
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RogueOne Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:14:25am |
re: #494 cenotaphium
So if one group wants to control what’s above your waistline, and the other what’s below.. who do we turn to when we want to tighten our belts?
That is so profound my eyes are getting a little misty.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:14:46am |
re: #497 SanFranciscoZionist
Gina Torres
Except in Firefly she was cast next to Morena Baccarin, who i’m especially crushed on…
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:14:52am |
re: #496 Aceofwhat?
aiguille = “needle”, if you didn’t already know that bit of trivia…
Only because of a recent Serge Lutens release. Filles en Aiguilles.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:15:32am |
re: #499 Walter L. Newton
Er… yea… midi = middle or south (don’t ask me why). The translation I have seen is “Needle of the South.”
it also means noon…sorry to add to your confusion!
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pingjockey Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:16:16am |
I was watching Planet Earth on Discovery channel, and 1/2 of the Matterhorn is from Europe and 1/2 is from Asia or Africa(can’t remember).
All due to plate tectonics.
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albusteve Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:16:33am |
re: #462 Aceofwhat?
i know what you mean…but i live in Jacksonville. it looks like a mountain compared to the flatland around here…
Sandia - world’s longest arial tramway, right?
yes, quite the view
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:19:04am |
re: #503 Aceofwhat?
it also means noon…sorry to add to your confusion!
Yes… I was going to add that. Strange French word, context is everything in this case.
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albusteve Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:20:47am |
re: #469 Walter L. Newton
Well, actually it is, but in general, this area is still considered foothills, that “hill” is over 10,000 feet, there for a mountain. If I had walked out into the parking lot and taken a picture in the other direction, you would see granite faced cliffs and other features that are more recognized with mountains.
The Sandia range is a severe uplift, where as the Rockies in this area spread over almost 250 miles, although you can find some sheer spikes peppered though out the range in Colorado.
The uplift becomes more defined when you cross into Canada.
the reason I think the southwest is more picturesqe, the mountains are all separate ranges, unconnected to each other, popping up all over the landscape….but it’s nothing like the massive central Rockies….they are awe inspiring….so frigging huge
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:21:21am |
re: #505 albusteve
yes, quite the view
I’ve come across this before. From what I’ve read (and been told) Sandia has the longest span between two towers in the world, but it’s not the overall longest cable between terminals.
Yet I just looked it up, and there are claims as to it being the longest in overall cable. So, I’m confused again.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:25:10am |
re: #509 Walter L. Newton
I’ve come across this before. From what I’ve read (and been told) Sandia has the longest span between two towers in the world, but it’s not the overall longest cable between terminals.
Yet I just looked it up, and there are claims as to it being the longest in overall cable. So, I’m confused again.
Ok… the Chamonix/Mt Blanc/Aiguille De Midi tram has this distinction… It still holds the record as the highest vertical ascent cable car in the world, from 1,035 m to 3,842 m. That’s the last decent up the face of the cliff along the glaciers.
Confusion abounds
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:25:56am |
re: #510 Walter L. Newton
Ok… the Chamonix/Mt Blanc/Aiguille De Midi tram has this distinction… It still holds the record as the highest vertical ascent cable car in the world, from 1,035 m to 3,842 m. That’s the last decent up the face of the cliff along the glaciers.
Confusion abounds
i admire your persistence…
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albusteve Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:26:31am |
re: #509 Walter L. Newton
I’ve come across this before. From what I’ve read (and been told) Sandia has the longest span between two towers in the world, but it’s not the overall longest cable between terminals.
Yet I just looked it up, and there are claims as to it being the longest in overall cable. So, I’m confused again.
don’t know….it seems like there must be an overall longer tram…but the Sandia only has one tower in the middle, on a pinnacle so that as you approach it it looks like you might scrape over the rocks, then it dramatically falls away again, like your flying real slow
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albusteve Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:27:46am |
re: #510 Walter L. Newton
Ok… the Chamonix/Mt Blanc/Aiguille De Midi tram has this distinction… It still holds the record as the highest vertical ascent cable car in the world, from 1,035 m to 3,842 m. That’s the last decent up the face of the cliff along the glaciers.
Confusion abounds
Telluride has a ski lift a mile long I think, it’s a cable car/tram
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:29:27am |
re: #511 Aceofwhat?
re: #512 albusteve
Here’s the smaller cable cars that run from the top of Aiguille De Midi and crosses over to Italy to Helbronner Point.
I wanted to tride these the day I took the Mt. Chamonix tram, but the weather got bad at the top and they shut it down. The ride is 3.1 miles across the glacier valley at about 11,000 feet.
Vallee Blanche Aerial Tramway
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:33:19am |
re: #515 Aceofwhat?
wow. great image.
I can’t find a picture of a certain section of the Vallee Blanche Aerial Tramway… but, at one point in the middle, they actually HUNG opne of the towers UPSIDE DOWN… suspended by cable attached to two needles on each side of the glacier valley, since they couldn’t raise a tower high enough from the glacier base below.
It’s amazing. I had a picture in a travel brochure, but I can’t find one on line of this certain section.
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Mark Pennington Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:52:44am |
re: #470 reine.de.tout
And, going off on a tangent here, a particular personal sore spot if you will - the accent of my speech is quite often used in movies to ensure the audience knows that particular character is stupid.
You would be played by Holly Hunter(you will no longer be Mary Stuart Masterson in my dreams!) who is not stupid. I think she’s from Georgia?
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Cato the Elder Sun, Apr 18, 2010 1:20:20pm |
One would think that at some point the mental midgets who run Sarah would stop insisting that she be introduced as “Governor” Sarah Palin. But I guess America has already forgotten that she quit that job to become Sarah Palin, jet-setting millionairess.
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Eclectic Infidel Sun, Apr 18, 2010 1:29:13pm |
re: #518 Cato the Elder
One would think that at some point the mental midgets who run Sarah would stop insisting that she be introduced as “Governor” Sarah Palin. But I guess America has already forgotten that she quit that job to become Sarah Palin, jet-setting millionairess.
I suppose it’s all part of the marketing of Sarah Palin. It has that familiar ring that her drones recognize. Sort of like, perhaps, the ‘reverend’ Jessie Jackson.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 3:42:09pm |
re: #517 beekiller
You would be played by Holly Hunter(you will no longer be Mary Stuart Masterson in my dreams!) who is not stupid. I think she’s from Georgia?
She is from Georgia!
I love Holly Hunter.
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CSKapper Sun, Apr 18, 2010 6:43:03pm |
That looks so fake. I don’t think he got beat up there. He’s just pranking us.
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