Tonight’s photo from the Lizard Collection: issue #20 of The X-Men, published in May 1966. The story in this one involved a super-powerful alien who called himself (or itself) Lucifer, and who turned out to be the villain responsible for crippling the leader of the X-Men, Professor Xavier.
Like most of the comics in the Collection, this one has very minimal wear, with bright inks and non-yellowed off-white pages.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:10:03pm |
Evening Honcos!! I show up and there's a new thread. Sweet!!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:10:14pm |
OOOH!
Damn thing looks brand new!
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:10:38pm |
Awesome as always. Once again, double credit to Charles' mom:
1. For producing a son who has become a fine man and excellent host.
2. For preserving such a grand collection of comic books for her family.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:11:01pm |
12 cents... how much are new comic books nowadays?
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Kragar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:11:50pm |
Earliest comic I ever had was X-Men 14, first appearance of the Sentinels. Picked it up at a yard sale for a nickel. Was in decent condition. Packed away in my family collection still.
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freetoken Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:13:46pm |
Speaking of villains ("I, Lucifer"), left over topic from downstairs:
A bipartisan trio of House members announced yesterday that they are sponsoring a bill to block the Environmental Protection Agency from regulating greenhouse gases. Agriculture Chairman Collin Peterson (D-Minn.) and Missouri Reps. Ike Skelton (D) and Jo Ann Emerson (R) introduced the measure.
This should illustrate why President Obama is picking up financial reform as this current thrust, and not climate change legislation. His own party (representatives from agricultural and fossil fuel producing regions) have him check-mated.
Likewise, he is pretty much check-mated on immigration.
Obama's last easy (um... tractable) agenda item is financial regulation.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:14:30pm |
re: #4 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
12 cents... how much are new comic books nowadays?
dunno. i wonder how new comic book sales are nowadays, too?
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Varek Raith Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:15:06pm |
re: #4 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
12 cents... how much are new comic books nowadays?
Not sure, last comic I bought was an Alien Vs Predator one...15? years ago.
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Digital Display Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:16:56pm |
Nice Charles..
First quarter in over.. The Portland Jail Breakers are leading by 1 point.
After watching Ball all day if I see one more Gieco Commercial I'll go insane..
*shakes fist*
As God is my witness I will never get Geico insurance!
/C-ya halftime
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:18:48pm |
re: #11 HoosierHoops
Nice Charles..
First quarter in over.. The Portland Jail Breakers are leading by 1 point.
After watching Ball all day if I see one more Gieco Commercial I'll go insane..
*shakes fist*
As God is my witness I will never get Geico insurance!
/C-ya halftime
it really is amazing...the caveman commercials were so good, and the gecko commercials are absolutely terrible.
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freetoken Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:19:14pm |
So, how much play will this nontroversy get?
Barack Obama insults Poland – again
One would have thought that President Obama might have used the time he would have spent in Poland paying his respects to the Polish fallen. For example he could have visited the recently erected Victims of Communism memorial in Washington, or at the very least have signed the condolence book at the Polish Embassy. But what did he choose to do instead? Play yet another round of golf.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:20:35pm |
Another excellent comic!
Your Mom was great to stash these!
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Varek Raith Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:20:37pm |
re: #13 freetoken
So, how much play will this nontroversy get?
Yeah, never mind the freaking volcano!
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:22:18pm |
re: #12 Aceofwhat?
it really is amazing...the caveman commercials were so good, and the gecko commercials are absolutely terrible.
Do you like the googly eyed stack of money? haha I think they are pretty successful with their commercials.
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Varek Raith Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:23:19pm |
re: #15 Varek Raith
Yeah, never mind the freaking volcano!
Nevemind, I know see his angle.
Still an idiot.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:23:31pm |
re: #13 freetoken
Anything to avoid the hell no on financial reform.
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bratwurst Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:23:45pm |
re: #11 HoosierHoops
As God is my witness I will never get Geico insurance!
/C-ya halftime
But 15 mins could save you 15%!
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jaunte Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:24:04pm |
Ah, 12 cent comics, from when a $400,000 house sold for $40,000.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:24:08pm |
re: #16 Stanley Sea
Do you like the googly eyed stack of money? haha I think they are pretty successful with their commercials.
that one was ok. i think that Old Spice has the best ad campaign going at the moment.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:24:10pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:24:28pm |
re: #21 Aceofwhat?
that one was ok. i think that Old Spice has the best ad campaign going at the moment.
The guy on the horse?
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The Shadow Do Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:24:51pm |
re: #13 freetoken
So, how much play will this nontroversy get?
Hey, how often does a guy get a chance to play golf in Poland?
Fore!
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:25:08pm |
re: #23 Cannadian Club Akbar
The guy on the horse?
and in the shower. yep, it's a good one if I can recall that quickly.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:25:36pm |
re: #25 Stanley Sea
and in the shower. yep, it's a good one if I can recall that quickly.
Sheer brilliance.
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Jadespring Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:25:40pm |
re: #24 The Shadow Do
Hey, how often does a guy get a chance to play golf in Poland?
Fore!
He wasn't in Poland.
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freetoken Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:25:59pm |
re: #17 Varek Raith
Yeah, he expects the US President to go around in sack clothe and ashes for the day. Yet, as sad as the story of the loss of the Polish leadership be, I won't fault the US President for going out and doing his day-off routine.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:26:02pm |
re: #23 Cannadian Club Akbar
He's already got a new big gig...
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The Shadow Do Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:27:12pm |
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:27:20pm |
re: #23 Cannadian Club Akbar
The guy on the horse?
that one, the one during the superbowl, the one playing now (muscle guy)...they're on a roll.
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Digital Display Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:28:13pm |
re: #19 bratwurst
But 15 mins could save you 15%!
Timeout
Another commercial today...All day about every 4 ads has been for the Release of Avatar on Thursday...They are beating it into our heads today..Thursday I had better go buy Avatar..
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Mark Pennington Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:28:39pm |
re: #4 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
12 cents... how much are new comic books nowadays?
Around $4, I think. I don't buy them but my brother-in-law collects them and would drool over this collection Charles has been showing us.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:29:00pm |
I just imagine that new comic books have to run in the five dollar range now...
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:29:05pm |
re: #28 freetoken
Yeah, he expects the US President to go around in sack clothe and ashes for the day. Yet, as sad as the story of the loss of the Polish leadership be, I won't fault the US President for going out and doing his day-off routine.
I'm actually going to agree with him a little, in that Obama should have signed the guest book. But past that, there's nothing wrong with him having a round of golf. It's not a big issue, and certainly not an insult. Obama would have attended the funeral if he possibly could have. He missed it due to an event for which no human bears any responsibility.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:29:36pm |
re: #32 HoosierHoops
Timeout
Another commercial today...All day about every 4 ads has been for the Release of Avatar on Thursday...They are beating it into our heads today..Thursday I had better go buy Avatar..
ridiculous. the only reason to see it was to see it on a huge screen in 3D. i couldn't be less interested in seeing it at home...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:29:48pm |
re: #32 HoosierHoops
I walked out on Avatar... finally saw it two weeks ago.
I, personally felt it was "full of suck".
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Jadespring Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:30:29pm |
Speaking off the Volcano, the ash cloud may hit Canada tomorrow and they're canceling flights to St. John's as a precaution.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:31:14pm |
And the Blackhawks pull it off, taking down Nashville 2-0. Playoff series now even, 1-1. Go Hawks!
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:31:46pm |
Netanyahu 2010 Independence Day address on U Tube
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:32:11pm |
re: #38 Jadespring
Speaking off the Volcano, the ash cloud may hit Canada tomorrow and they're canceling flights to St. John's as a precaution.
just when it was starting to get warm...
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freetoken Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:33:00pm |
re: #37 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
It's pretty boring, as far as movies go.
Two movies that I have recently viewed that I can recommend (available on DVD now):
Cold Souls
End of the Line
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keloyd Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:33:46pm |
re: #6 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Speaking of comics, who saw Kick-Ass?
Kick-Ass was excellent. It's a rare movie that did many things exceedingly well. If you hate kids in movies because they're all cutesy - don't worry about that. The kid in this one is 1. shot while she's wearing a bullet proof vest by her dad played by Nicolas Cage, and 2. bad ass.
Kick-Ass is awesome enough that they didn't have to do any of the short cuts you usually see to make a 'b' movie popular. There was little special effects. There was no nudity, not one boob for 2 hours. There was a cute girl with a lesbian friend, but nothing happened. They HAD a lesbian, but her lesbian services were not ever required. The movie's awesomeness was so abiding that she was around, on call I guess, but never used.
The music? Here is a perfect illustration how good this movie is - when else have you heard, in the space of 2 hours, 1. The Banana Splits Theme (for a killing spree), 2. The Barber of Seville (for various gangsters plotting their shenanigans,) and 3. Elvis Presley's rendition of the Battle Hymn of The Republic. AWESOME MOVIE
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Jadespring Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:36:00pm |
Well I think I'm going to go pop a couple of pain pills, veg on the couch and watch the Pacific. I forgot I had taped it earlier.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:36:26pm |
I have a meeting with a guy tomorrow who owns a bar. The meeting is to see if he'll rent me his kitchen. Not my own place, but close.
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prairiefire Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:36:56pm |
re: #44 freetoken
It's pretty boring, as far as movies go.
Two movies that I have recently viewed that I can recommend (available on DVD now):
Cold Souls
End of the Line
I Love Giammatti, so Cold Souls was good? Not too surreal?
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KingKenrod Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:37:15pm |
re: #34 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I just imagine that new comic books have to run in the five dollar range now...
I just checked...looks like a run-of-the-mill monthly issue is going for $3.99. It's really sad that it's that much.
When I stopped collecting comics in 2002, the cover price was $1.95, which was just on the edge of what I was willing to pay. I don't see how the average kid can afford many of these books. Of course, they probably don't buy them - the digital versions are easily available for illegal download.
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Kragar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:39:10pm |
re: #45 keloyd
Kick-Ass was excellent. It's a rare movie that did many things exceedingly well. If you hate kids in movies because they're all cutesy - don't worry about that. The kid in this one is 1. shot while she's wearing a bullet proof vest by her dad played by Nicolas Cage, and 2. bad ass.
Kick-Ass is awesome enough that they didn't have to do any of the short cuts you usually see to make a 'b' movie popular. There was little special effects. There was no nudity, not one boob for 2 hours. There was a cute girl with a lesbian friend, but nothing happened. They HAD a lesbian, but her lesbian services were not ever required. The movie's awesomeness was so abiding that she was around, on call I guess, but never used.
The music? Here is a perfect illustration how good this movie is - when else have you heard, in the space of 2 hours, 1. The Banana Splits Theme (for a killing spree), 2. The Barber of Seville (for various gangsters plotting their shenanigans,) and 3. Elvis Presley's rendition of the Battle Hymn of The Republic. AWESOME MOVIE
The moment I fell in love with this movie, the parking lot fight:
Gang member: What the fuck is wrong with you, man? You rather die for some piece of shit that you don't even fucking know?
Dave: Three assholes, laying it on one guy while everyone else watches? And you wanna know what's wrong with me? Yeah, I'd rather die... so bring it on!
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keloyd Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:39:12pm |
re: #45 keloyd
Oh, just to clarify, I didn't put any spoilers in my Kick-Ass comment. The girl being shot by her dad (Nic Cage) is in a trailer, and comes near the beginning of the movie. Seriously, the rest of you, stop thinking about politics, drop what you're doing, and go see Kick Ass.
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freetoken Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:39:20pm |
re: #49 prairiefire
The movie is clearly a bit "off the wall". The extra charm being that the story has enough unusual turns that an experienced movie viewer will still be surprised now and again.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:39:22pm |
re: #47 prairiefire
M U S C L E guy, with a deep voice.
absolutely!
still...this is the best one evah.
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bratwurst Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:39:46pm |
re: #50 KingKenrod
I just checked...looks like a run-of-the-mill monthly issue is going for $3.99. It's really sad that it's that much.
Whoa...if the book is THAT much, how much do they want these days for the x-ray glasses advertised in the back pages?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:42:44pm |
re: #56 Cannadian Club Akbar
I LOVE him on Burn Notice!!
He brings Sam to light, and he's a great character.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:44:10pm |
re: #57 Dark_Falcon
He brings Sam to light, and he's a great character.
All the characters on that show are awesome.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:44:33pm |
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pharmmajor Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:50:01pm |
Hey Charles, do you have any DC or Charlton comics in your archive?
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:55:37pm |
re: #13 freetoken
So, how much play will this nontroversy get?
First two responses on the site:
Mr Gardiner,
Perhaps you could blog when President Obama doesn’t gravely insult someone? You would save yourself much fulmination.
then,
Ross,
Are you saying Nile should give up blogging?
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:56:14pm |
re: #15 Varek Raith
Yeah, never mind the freaking volcano!
No, no, he acknowledges the volcano problem. He just feels that Obama should have done something solemn during the time he WOULD have been in Poland, if the wrath of Thor had allowed.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:57:04pm |
re: #24 The Shadow Do
Hey, how often does a guy get a chance to play golf in Poland?
Fore!
Some retired Poles, I'm sure, do it a couple times a week.
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freetoken Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:57:27pm |
re: #61 SanFranciscoZionist
Yes, part of the story that goes with Obama-Destroyer-of-America theme is that he is out to make all our allies into former allies, and thus he is intentionally insulting them.
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Varek Raith Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:59:23pm |
re: #17 Varek Raith
Nevemind, I know see his angle.
Still an idiot.
Good grief. Such an egregious spelling error on my part.
*Shakes head in shame*
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 18, 2010 8:59:56pm |
re: #64 freetoken
Yes, part of the story that goes with Obama-Destroyer-of-America theme is that he is out to make all our allies into former allies, and thus he is intentionally insulting them.
Well, he goes over the top with this one. at worst he has a minor matter of propriety, and he tries to make it into a scandal.
Outrage FAIL
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:01:35pm |
re: #64 freetoken
Yes, part of the story that goes with Obama-Destroyer-of-America theme is that he is out to make all our allies into former allies, and thus he is intentionally insulting them.
Yes, Obama wakes up in the morning and thinks, "The Poles have been good allies to us since the collapse of the Eastern Bloc. They appreciate America greatly. How can I get them to stop that?" Then he golfs.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:01:51pm |
"That's some bad hat, Harry" The production company for "House" says that at the end of the show. A cookie for the lizard that knows where that line is from.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:04:44pm |
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Sheila Broflovski Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:05:08pm |
re: #36 Aceofwhat?
ridiculous. the only reason to see it was to see it on a huge screen in 3D. i couldn't be less interested in seeing it at home...
I would never watch Avatar on DVD, if you don't watch it in 3D IMAX, it's Teh Suck
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:05:20pm |
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:06:41pm |
Charles, I hope you have the Frank Miller issues of Daredevil, especially the ones with Elektra. Some of the best written and drwan Marvel books ever.
No, I'm not a comic book geek, but I was in the 80s. And I still have way too many books around (which I probably can't sell) to prove it.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:06:45pm |
re: #48 Cannadian Club Akbar
I have a meeting with a guy tomorrow who owns a bar. The meeting is to see if he'll rent me his kitchen. Not my own place, but close.
Hope it goes well for you!
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freetoken Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:07:14pm |
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Obdicut Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:07:51pm |
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reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:09:05pm |
re: #68 Cannadian Club Akbar
"That's some bad hat, Harry" The production company for "House" says that at the end of the show. A cookie for the lizard that knows where that line is from.
Did anyone answer this yet?
Where's the line from?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:09:13pm |
re: #74 reine.de.tout
Hope it goes well for you!
Thanks. But I have many questions. And I have my Evil Plan still in place.
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freetoken Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:10:01pm |
Speaking of subversives:
Psychedelics conference describes the long strange trip to the lab
One speaker introduced his mom. Another thanked his wife and kids. And at the closing ceremony of the Psychedelic Science conference in San Jose, the crowd of 1,000 stood up and applauded in appreciation of each other.
The "tune in, turn on" bacchanalian generation has matured into a gentler "take care, take notes" cadre of therapists, nurses, social workers and spiritual explorers. The sold-out conference, the largest gathering on psychedelic science in four decades, was a forum to exchange news about small, preliminary and still inconclusive studies to treat such problems as obsessive-compulsive disorder, depression, post-traumatic stress disorder and end-of-life anxiety.
Better living through chemistry LSD?
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reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:10:04pm |
re: #78 Cannadian Club Akbar
Thanks. But I have many questions. And I have my Evil Plan still in place.
Oh!
So this isn't part of your Evil Plan?
I assumed it was
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:10:35pm |
re: #75 freetoken
Post-modern philosophy:
I golf, there I am subversive.
PJ O'Rourke has some great line about how activists in Panama are using littering and traffic jams to effect social change, and he thinks doing this in a Latin American country is brilliant.
"Imagine how fast we would have been out of Vietnam if golf, commuting and watching Mayberry RFD had been anti-war," he adds.
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albusteve Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:11:11pm |
re: #72 Dark_Falcon
Ah, yes. One of many movies where an M1 Garand proves the hero's best friend.
Garand!
2 pts
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:11:15pm |
re: #80 reine.de.tout
Oh!
So this isn't part of your Evil Plan?
I assumed it was
My Evil Plan is much larger. Heh.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:11:36pm |
Hey...
Just got home from work... I got an email with some screen captures of some really scary threats that Ludwig was making today about what he would do to Tea Party protesters... Is this for real or is someone trying to bait me or something?
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albusteve Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:12:18pm |
re: #84 Walter L. Newton
Hey...
Just got home from work... I got an email with some screen captures of some really scary threats that Ludwig was making today about what he would do to Tea Party protesters... Is this for real or is someone trying to bait me or something?
it's for real
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reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:12:25pm |
re: #84 Walter L. Newton
Hey...
Just got home from work... I got an email with some screen captures of some really scary threats that Ludwig was making today about what he would do to Tea Party protesters... Is this for real or is someone trying to bait me or something?
They should have screen capped the deletes, and then screen-capped the comment where LVQ said sorry, he overreacted, as well.
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Varek Raith Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:13:26pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:13:31pm |
re: #84 Walter L. Newton
Hey...
Just got home from work... I got an email with some screen captures of some really scary threats that Ludwig was making today about what he would do to Tea Party protesters... Is this for real or is someone trying to bait me or something?
He has since apologized for those posts and Charles deleted them. The matter has been attended to.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:13:59pm |
re: #69 Obdicut
Jaws.
pfffffft.
I just looked it up. Now I know why you posted a comment saying merely "jaws".
LOL.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:14:13pm |
re: #86 reine.de.tout
They should have screen capped the deletes, and then screen-capped the comment where LVQ said sorry, he overreacted, as well.
I have screen captures of two comments by him. I haven't checked for deletes or apologies... like I say, I just got home, I don't even know what thread it was.
Whatever... I guess there is nothing to it.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:14:40pm |
Just about bedtime for me. But first, a great bit from this weekend's SNL:
[Link: www.hulu.com...]
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reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:15:41pm |
re: #90 Walter L. Newton
I have screen captures of two comments by him. I haven't checked for deletes or apologies... like I say, I just got home, I don't even know what thread it was.
Whatever... I guess there is nothing to it.
Not now.
Or should I say, no longer.
Or I should really just shut up now.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:15:46pm |
re: #89 reine.de.tout
pffft.
I just looked it up. Now I know why you posted a comment saying merely "jaws".
LOL.
In that scene a guy loses his dog (by the shark). Name the doggie, Obi!!
/I know he'll know.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:16:37pm |
re: #88 Dark_Falcon
He has since apologized for those posts and Charles deleted them. The matter has been attended to.
Well that's good...
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:16:42pm |
re: #84 Walter L. Newton
Hey...
Just got home from work... I got an email with some screen captures of some really scary threats that Ludwig was making today about what he would do to Tea Party protesters... Is this for real or is someone trying to bait me or something?
No, they're authentic. Ludwig was in a mood.
He said later that he was sorry, and got over it.
No one sends me e-mails with screen captures of shit that got deleted. If I don't see it personally, I don't see it. Why am I so un-special?
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Varek Raith Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:17:17pm |
re: #95 SanFranciscoZionist
No, they're authentic. Ludwig was in a mood.
He said later that he was sorry, and got over it.
No one sends me e-mails with screen captures of shit that got deleted. If I don't see it personally, I don't see it. Why am I so un-special?
There, there.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:17:37pm |
re: #90 Walter L. Newton
I have screen captures of two comments by him. I haven't checked for deletes or apologies... like I say, I just got home, I don't even know what thread it was.
Whatever... I guess there is nothing to it.
Well, I don't think he's running off in the night with a kriss in his teeth or anything.
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albusteve Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:18:09pm |
re: #95 SanFranciscoZionist
No, they're authentic. Ludwig was in a mood.
He said later that he was sorry, and got over it.
No one sends me e-mails with screen captures of shit that got deleted. If I don't see it personally, I don't see it. Why am I so un-special?
there must be some kind of underground....
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:18:42pm |
re: #98 albusteve
there must be some kind of underground...
Well, I don't mind that, but not being in it is sort of hurtful.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:18:49pm |
re: #99 SanFranciscoZionist
Well, I don't mind that, but not being in it is sort of hurtful.
Gosh darn it.
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Varek Raith Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:18:51pm |
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Obdicut Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:19:03pm |
re: #93 Cannadian Club Akbar
No, I don't. I don't have that good a memory. The hat line is memorable, and damn, it was a bad hat.
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albusteve Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:19:20pm |
re: #99 SanFranciscoZionist
Well, I don't mind that, but not being in it is sort of hurtful.
we need the sekrit kode
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:19:36pm |
re: #102 Obdicut
No, I don't. I don't have that good a memory. The hat line is memorable, and damn, it was a bad hat.
Pippet.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:19:43pm |
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Obdicut Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:20:02pm |
re: #104 Cannadian Club Akbar
Dumb name for a dog. Good name for a hobbit.
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albusteve Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:20:42pm |
re: #105 reine.de.tout
*smooch*
It'll be OK.
you never call
you never write
what am I supposed to think?
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reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:21:24pm |
re: #107 albusteve
you never call
you never write
what am I supposed to think?
erm.
eek.
sheesh.
I dunno.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:21:58pm |
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albusteve Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:22:48pm |
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Varek Raith Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:23:18pm |
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reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:23:56pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:24:31pm |
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Varek Raith Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:25:00pm |
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albusteve Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:27:54pm |
re: #113 reine.de.tout
Catholic mom, too.
those goofy moms...I love mine to pieces, she's 90 this next month
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:31:06pm |
re: #117 albusteve
those goofy moms...I love mine to pieces, she's 90 this next month
Here's to her, she raised a great son.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:35:52pm |
re: #118 Dark_Falcon
Here's to her, she raised a great son.
She raised Steve too, you know. Don't forget him.
/
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:37:01pm |
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albusteve Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:37:07pm |
re: #118 Dark_Falcon
Here's to her, she raised a great son.
oh poo...check back with me in forty years, you're too nice bro
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albusteve Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:38:17pm |
re: #119 Slumbering Behemoth
She raised Steve too, you know. Don't forget him.
/
NUMBCHUCKS at DAWN!
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albusteve Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:41:49pm |
Blockbuster News!....
-- An ailing, 84-year-old World War II veteran is making a desperate plea to Oprah Winfrey: Please admit I'm your father!
Norh Robinson, a dirt-poor Mississippi farmer now living in a rural VA hospital, wants Oprah to submit to a paternity test that he says would once and for all prove that he sired her in 1954.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
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Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:44:16pm |
Leonardo da Carpenter
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:44:33pm |
re: #122 albusteve
NUMBCHUCKS at DAWN!
You don't wanna go there with me, bro. After I accidentally hit myself in the nuts and the kidneys simultaneously, for the third time in a row, you will be laughing so hard that you pass out.
Then, when I am done puking up blood, I will declare victory over your passed out body.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:46:26pm |
re: #123 albusteve
Blockbuster News!...
-- An ailing, 84-year-old World War II veteran is making a desperate plea to Oprah Winfrey: Please admit I'm your father!
Norh Robinson, a dirt-poor Mississippi farmer now living in a rural VA hospital, wants Oprah to submit to a paternity test that he says would once and for all prove that he sired her in 1954.[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
I hope she looks into the matter. It would be good for her to set Mr. Robinson's mind at ease. Regardless of any tests, I thank him, as I thank all war veterans, for doing his duty and thus allowing me to live as a free man.
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albusteve Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:47:37pm |
re: #126 Slumbering Behemoth
You don't wanna go there with me, bro. After I accidentally hit myself in the nuts and the kidneys simultaneously, for the third time in a row, you will be laughing so hard that you pass out.
Then, when I am done puking up blood, I will declare victory over your passed out body.
buy me a taco and we're even, forget he rest
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:47:43pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:49:07pm |
re: #129 albusteve
Two tacos and a beer. Anything less would just leave your stomach grumbling for more.
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albusteve Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:49:17pm |
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albusteve Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:51:11pm |
re: #131 Slumbering Behemoth
Two tacos and a beer. Anything less would just leave your stomach grumbling for more.
a three taco platter is typical for this circumstance...a busted duel calls for the special at Little Anita's
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Apr 18, 2010 9:55:10pm |
re: #133 albusteve
If Little Anita's is the name of a strip club, I'm down with that.
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freetoken Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:01:24pm |
A topic that has been of some interest around here lately:
Dating Study Says Singles With Options Go For Hotties
Typically, participants meet anywhere between 15 and 35 people in a night. And the scientists found that when there were more people to choose from, it was more likely that men and women would make judgments about whether to see that person again based on appearance. At bigger speed dating events, with 24 or more potential matches, both male and female choosers were more likely to decide based on "attributes that could be judged quickly, such as their dates' height, and whether they were underweight, normal weight or overweight," says Lenton.
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albusteve Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:06:30pm |
re: #134 Slumbering Behemoth
If Little Anita's is the name of a strip club, I'm down with that.
it's a Tex Mex joint in ABQ, perv
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Querent Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:09:04pm |
Behemoth / Albusteve
stop that, both of you, or i shall be forced to sing the Taco Song from Hello Cthulhu dot com!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:09:52pm |
re: #136 albusteve
Don't think of me as a perv. Think of me as an appreciator of fine art.
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freetoken Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:12:37pm |
We've got a winner in the daily creationist wheel-of-fortune contest:
Can a club to discuss creationist science coexist with evolutionists on a college campus?Apparently so, at least at Lake Michigan College, where a small group of students has been meeting to talk about alternatives to the accepted scientific view of how the earth formed and life began.
The Creationist Club has the blessing, if not the shared beliefs, of the chair of the natural sciences department, and the support of at least one faculty member who is a self-described creationist.
"I think evolution is more of a hypothesis than a theory," said LMC student Jeremy Walker of Stevensville, who started the club about a month ago.
[...]
Walker then turned to Fran Miles, another biology instructor, who turned out to be a kindred spirit.
"There are two creationists in the science department," Miles said. "I am one of them."
The other prefers to remain anonymous, Miles said.
Miles follows the departmental policy that only evolution is to be taught in the classroom.
Among her colleagues, "I just don't bring it up," Miles said.
She emphasizes a scientific, rather than an emotional or religious, approach to the subject.
"It's important for students to use the scientific method, whether they believe in evolution or not," Miles said. "Even creationists need to know the basics of evolution."
That's what she learned in school, accepting the tenets of Darwin's studies and subsequent research in evolution. But the more she learned, the more she began to have doubts.
For Miles, life on Earth is too complex and the odds of its occurring randomly are too high not to have been guided by a higher power.
Even the laws of thermodynamics seem to be against natural selection, she said. "Bodies go from order to disorder - not the other way around."
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:16:15pm |
re: #139 freetoken
We've got a winner in the daily creationist wheel-of-fortune contest:
Lake Michigan College gets a MAJOR FAIL for allowing a creationist to teach biology. The creationist get an EPIC FAIL for yet again making fools out of themselves with that worn out point about thermodynamics. The earth is not a closed system, but they persist in trying to fool people with that lame talking point.
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freetoken Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:18:37pm |
re: #140 Dark_Falcon
It's just so sad. That biology instructor is lying to herself and her students. I'm not one for enforcing right-think on a college campus, so any instructor can believe what they want, I guess. But she just has a poor grasp of science (physics and biology), and yet she is a college instructor in a science department.
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Turu The Terrible Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:19:33pm |
re: #11 HoosierHoops
Nice Charles..
First quarter in over.. The Portland Jail Breakers are leading by 1 point.
After watching Ball all day if I see one more Gieco Commercial I'll go insane..
*shakes fist*
As God is my witness I will never get Geico insurance!
/C-ya halftime
Oh, come on Hoopster, what have you got against cute little Geckos and Cavemen.
My insurance peeve is "Progressive". Just the name causes my scales to itch. Flo is a 'ho.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:21:39pm |
re: #141 freetoken
It's just so sad. That biology instructor is lying to herself and her students. I'm not one for enforcing right-think on a college campus, so any instructor can believe what they want, I guess. But she just has a poor grasp of science (physics and biology), and yet she is a college instructor in a science department.
Indeed. if she were any English teacher, I would raise no objection. But in the case of a biology teacher, it could be argued she has rendered herself unfit due to willful blindness to the facts. Disgraceful.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:25:54pm |
A recent SNL skit taking the piss out of ICP's call to ignorance in their latest "hit" single.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:27:29pm |
re: #144 Slumbering Behemoth
"Fucking magnets! How do they work?" :D
I got the new High on Fire record, BTW. Holy hell it's good.
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albusteve Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:28:32pm |
re: #140 Dark_Falcon
Lake Michigan College gets a MAJOR FAIL for allowing a creationist to teach biology. The creationist get an EPIC FAIL for yet again making fools out of themselves with that worn out point about thermodynamics. The earth is not a closed system, but they persist in trying to fool people with that lame talking point.
that's where I got my radiography cert...holy shit!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:29:31pm |
re: #145 WindUpBird
How does it compare to the rest of their albums? "The Art of Self Defense" and "Death is This Communion" are my favorites.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:33:27pm |
re: #146 albusteve
that's where I got my radiography cert...holy shit!
That would seem to sum it up.
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albusteve Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:36:53pm |
re: #148 Dark_Falcon
That would seem to sum it up.
small world...I liked that little school, Lake Michigan Community College in Benton Harbor, MI....fucking flintstone geeks
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:40:28pm |
re: #149 albusteve
small world...I liked that little school, Lake Michigan Community College in Benton Harbor, MI...fucking flintstone geeks
If the department head is a man, any chance you'd take a roadtrip to kick his ass?
/entirely kiddinng
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:42:06pm |
re: #145 WindUpBird
"Fucking magnets! How do they work?"
Invisible daemons?
That ICP video is the most unintentionally funny thing I've seen in a long time.
"And I don't wanna hear from no scientists. Y'all be lyin', an' gettin' me pissed"!
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:42:55pm |
re: #150 Dark_Falcon
If the department head is a man, any chance you'd take a roadtrip to kick his ass?
/entirely kidding
PIMF
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albusteve Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:43:29pm |
re: #150 Dark_Falcon
If the department head is a man, any chance you'd take a roadtrip to kick his ass?
/entirely kiddinng
funny that...I'm heading up there tomorrow, it's 40 mi from my destination, maybe I should drop in
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 18, 2010 10:56:58pm |
re: #154 albusteve
funny that...I'm heading up there tomorrow, it's 40 mi from my destination, maybe I should drop in
Please do. At the least, call their attention to this article and let them know how bad a mistake they are making.
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Mark Pennington Sun, Apr 18, 2010 11:04:28pm |
I didn't win the Powerball jackpot. What are the odds of that?
Good night, Lizards.
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albusteve Sun, Apr 18, 2010 11:04:32pm |
re: #155 Dark_Falcon
Please do. At the least, call their attention to this article and let them know how bad a mistake they are making.
go in there with a reserved rage...probably blow them away...heh, I wonder if anybody has challenged their cozy little 6000yr caveman gig
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Apr 18, 2010 11:07:45pm |
re: #147 Slumbering Behemoth
How does it compare to the rest of their albums? "The Art of Self Defense" and "Death is This Communion" are my favorites.
The production has a slightly less grungy/sludgy sound than Communion, but in a good way. Somewhat more complex licks, busier drums, some interesting slower songs I didn't see coming. Feels like a natural progression from their older stuff, there's no real strange experimentation.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Apr 18, 2010 11:11:22pm |
re: #158 iceweasel
We're discussing the possible implications of what may very well be the greatest philosophical quandary of all time...
Fucking magnets: How do they work?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Apr 18, 2010 11:17:16pm |
re: #159 WindUpBird
I really wish they would re-master and re-release "The Art of Self Defense". Great doom/stoner rock tracks, but the production values on that album are crap. It sounds as though the mixing board was submerged in mud.
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Gus Sun, Apr 18, 2010 11:17:21pm |
re: #160 Slumbering Behemoth
We're discussing the possible implications of what may very well be the greatest philosophical quandary of all time...
Fucking magnets: How do they work?
Magnets have sex?
/
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The Left Sun, Apr 18, 2010 11:17:24pm |
re: #160 Slumbering Behemoth
We're discussing the possible implications of what may very well be the greatest philosophical quandary of all time...
Fucking magnets: How do they work?
That's easy. Once upon the Magnet People were one, happily rolling around the universe. Then the gods got scared by their strength and defiance, and Thor said I'm gonna smash em all with my hammer, like I did the giants.
And Zeus said, "No, You better let me, Use my lightening, like scissors,
Like I cut the legs off the whales, And dinosaurs into lizards."
Then he grabbed up some bolts And he let out a laugh,
Said, "I'll split them right down the middle.Gonna cut them right up in half."
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Gus Sun, Apr 18, 2010 11:18:49pm |
re: #163 iceweasel
That's easy. Once upon the Magnet People were one, happily rolling around the universe. Then the gods got scared by their strength and defiance, and Thor said I'm gonna smash em all with my hammer, like I did the giants.
And Zeus said, "No, You better let me, Use my lightening, like scissors,
Like I cut the legs off the whales, And dinosaurs into lizards."
Then he grabbed up some bolts And he let out a laugh,
Said, "I'll split them right down the middle.Gonna cut them right up in half."[Video]
And ever since then the Magnet People wander, always looking for their other halves, irresistibly drawn together when they find one, running away in wild grief and horror when it's not the right one. :(
I heard that the Magnet people came to earth on rockets that looked a lot like DC-9s.
/
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Kragar Sun, Apr 18, 2010 11:21:03pm |
re: #160 Slumbering Behemoth
We're discussing the possible implications of what may very well be the greatest philosophical quandary of all time...
Fucking magnets: How do they work?
I promised never to reveal my secrets.
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Gus Sun, Apr 18, 2010 11:23:46pm |
re: #158 iceweasel
Ahoy, polloi!
S'up?
Another depressing Monday. Or is that a manic Monday. The usual. Eat, sleep, work, pay bills, fall behind on bills, then drink.
Yourself?
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The Left Sun, Apr 18, 2010 11:26:45pm |
re: #166 Gus 802
Another depressing Monday. Or is that a manic Monday. The usual. Eat, sleep, work, pay bills, fall behind on bills, then drink.
Yourself?
We're good! Actually doing much the same as yourself. Apart from that we might actually make it to the Empire State Building tomorrow.
Jimmah-Ice Productions has also made Walter a new avatar.
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AK-47% Sun, Apr 18, 2010 11:30:52pm |
Morning here in Old Europe. Austria has opened up its airspace. Rest of us are still grounded. Not that I can afford tickets to fly anywhere right now...
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Gus Sun, Apr 18, 2010 11:31:07pm |
re: #167 iceweasel
We're good! Actually doing much the same as yourself. Apart from that we might actually make it to the Empire State Building tomorrow.
Jimmah-Ice Productions has also made Walter a new avatar.
I went to Empire State Building once. Back around 1968. I have a pretty good memory.
Here's another avatar option.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 18, 2010 11:33:16pm |
re: #167 iceweasel
We're good! Actually doing much the same as yourself. Apart from that we might actually make it to the Empire State Building tomorrow.
Jimmah-Ice Productions has also made Walter a new avatar.
Pretty good. He might even use it for a short time.
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The Left Sun, Apr 18, 2010 11:35:29pm |
re: #170 Dark_Falcon
Pretty good. He might even use it for a short time.
Hey cutie! S'up? How's the job situation? Hope it's going well.
Jimmah left this for walter earlier but photobucket is fucked right now and the earlier link is no longer good. Thought he'd like it. :)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Apr 18, 2010 11:36:09pm |
ICP has given the internet the greatest gift it has seen in a long while, not including free pr0n.
This tidbit alone [NSFW] will keep me laughing for some time.
"Fucking Youtubes! How do they work?"
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The Left Sun, Apr 18, 2010 11:36:44pm |
re: #169 Gus 802
I went to Empire State Building once. Back around 1968. I have a pretty good memory.
Here's another avatar option.
Heeheehee. Working on something involving Comic Book Guy-- for wingnuts. Comic Book Guy is like the cleaned up version of my vision of some of the freaks in the Village of the Banned.
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Gus Sun, Apr 18, 2010 11:38:11pm |
re: #173 iceweasel
Heeheehee. Working on something involving Comic Book Guy-- for wingnuts. Comic Book Guy is like the cleaned up version of my vision of some of the freaks in the Village of the Banned.
Ah. Right. Yeah, I was wondering who's emailing screen captures of LVQs comments. Admitting to getting an email like that here is how should I put it. Uncool.
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The Left Sun, Apr 18, 2010 11:42:07pm |
re: #174 Gus 802
Ah. Right. Yeah, I was wondering who's emailing screen captures of LVQs comments. Admitting to getting an email like that here is how should I put it. Uncool.
Yeah, I just noticed that, and I'm pretty sure I know who the emailer is.
This isn't the first time Walter posted in an overnight thread, talking about an email 'someone' sent him about a comment of Ludwigs.
Strangely enough, the comment the first time had been deleted too when Walter posted.
In that case it was one comment, addressed to another poster, a poster who had several comments deleted in that thread-- all addressed to LVQ.
Interesting. Of course Walter is just 'asking questions' when he raises these issues, like any person might. /
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 18, 2010 11:42:47pm |
re: #174 Gus 802
Ah. Right. Yeah, I was wondering who's emailing screen captures of LVQs comments. Admitting to getting an email like that here is how should I put it. Uncool.
I have not sent or received such an email. Whoever it is, that person is trying to put pressure on Ludwig, and possibly, through him, Charles.
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Gus Sun, Apr 18, 2010 11:48:26pm |
re: #175 iceweasel
Yeah, I just noticed that, and I'm pretty sure I know who the emailer is.
This isn't the first time Walter posted in an overnight thread, talking about an email 'someone' sent him about a comment of Ludwigs.
Strangely enough, the comment the first time had been deleted too when Walter posted.
In that case it was one comment, addressed to another poster, a poster who had several comments deleted in that thread-- all addressed to LVQ.Interesting. Of course Walter is just 'asking questions' when he raises these issues, like any person might. /
Uh huh. Just asking questions. Bringing it up again after it was dropped several hours ago and LVQ apologized. You have to wonder who would be doing that here.
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Aye Pod Sun, Apr 18, 2010 11:48:35pm |
re: #176 Dark_Falcon
I have not sent or received such an email. Whoever it is, that person is trying to put pressure on Ludwig, and possibly, through him, Charles.
A familiar story and a tactic that has failed every time ;-)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Apr 18, 2010 11:51:34pm |
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The Left Sun, Apr 18, 2010 11:54:03pm |
re: #177 Gus 802
Uh huh. Just asking questions. Bringing it up again after it was dropped several hours ago and LVQ apologized. You have to wonder who would be doing that here.
My guess is that it's the same person who did it the last time Walter mentioned such an email.
Although there's a bit of interesting crossover happening. In both this case and the one I remember, a certain blog occupied by stalkers made much of those exact same comments.
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The Left Sun, Apr 18, 2010 11:55:58pm |
re: #176 Dark_Falcon
I have not sent or received such an email. Whoever it is, that person is trying to put pressure on Ludwig, and possibly, through him, Charles.
Naturally. These sort of campaigns are generally accompanied by seekrit demands to Charles that he ban certain people.
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Gus Sun, Apr 18, 2010 11:56:45pm |
re: #180 iceweasel
My guess is that it's the same person who did it the last time Walter mentioned such an email.
Although there's a bit of interesting crossover happening. In both this case and the one I remember, a certain blog occupied by stalkers made much of those exact same comments.
They already did about this last one. Wasn't a screen shot however. Someone copied the comment. Now that comment wasn't up for very long so that means either the person was lucky or someone that's registered at LGF is also at the stalker blog. It's a matter of a window of opportunity.
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The Left Sun, Apr 18, 2010 11:58:56pm |
re: #182 Gus 802
They already did about this last one. Wasn't a screen shot however. Someone copied the comment. Now that comment wasn't up for very long so that means either the person was lucky or someone that's registered at LGF is also at the stalker blog. It's a matter of a window of opportunity.
Opportunity and certain overlapping obsessions, as well as overlapping butthurt. The Village of the Banned has a major hate-on for Ludwig, more than for anyone apart from Charles, I would say.
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The Left Mon, Apr 19, 2010 12:01:21am |
re: #182 Gus 802
They already did about this last one. Wasn't a screen shot however. Someone copied the comment. Now that comment wasn't up for very long so that means either the person was lucky or someone that's registered at LGF is also at the stalker blog. It's a matter of a window of opportunity.
Actually, in this case I suspect it's a matter of an extremely butthurt LGF person who compulsively screenshots LVQ comments everytime they get into a throwdown. That's my guess.
But as mentioned, the Banned really hate Ludwig and there are a few obsessives there who no doubt monitor him all the time. Thing is, I seriously doubt Walter would be in communication with such people. Right?
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Gus Mon, Apr 19, 2010 12:06:24am |
re: #184 iceweasel
Actually, in this case I suspect it's a matter of an extremely butthurt LGF person who compulsively screenshots LVQ comments everytime they get into a throwdown. That's my guess.
But as mentioned, the Banned really hate Ludwig and there are a few obsessives there who no doubt monitor him all the time. Thing is, I seriously doubt Walter would be in communication with such people. Right?
Yes. A lot of people have a major hard on over the fact that he has the ability to smack down the AGW deniers with facts. As far as that screenshot usually they'd post something like that. Haven't seen it anywhere in the OCD blogs.
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freetoken Mon, Apr 19, 2010 12:09:04am |
Cox upgraded (in the SD area anyway) their internet services lately, so I'm getting 15Mbs downloads instead of the nominal 10Mbs I had before. However, they didn't tell me they were going to raise my bill $2/mo ! Thing is, before the official "upgrade" I was doing better than 10Mbs already.
Oh well, they have a bit of a monopoly in my area.
Thing is, in Japan I had high speed internet years ago, and it cost me around $11/mo or so. Here Cox is 4x the cost. Urrmphhh...
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Kruk Mon, Apr 19, 2010 12:09:52am |
re: #156 beekiller
I didn't win the Powerball jackpot. What are the odds of that?
Good night, Lizards.
About 5,999,999 in 6,000,000? :)
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Kruk Mon, Apr 19, 2010 12:12:47am |
re: #152 Slumbering Behemoth
Invisible daemons?
That ICP video is the most unintentionally funny thing I've seen in a long time.
"And I don't wanna hear from no scientists. Y'all be lyin', an' gettin' me pissed"!
For no reason whatsoever: Rap by people who should never rap.
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The Left Mon, Apr 19, 2010 12:12:57am |
re: #185 Gus 802
Yes. A lot of people have a major hard on over the fact that he has the ability to smack down the AGW deniers with facts. As far as that screenshot usually they'd post something like that. Haven't seen it anywhere in the OCD blogs.
Yep. Hence my claim that Walter's email is obviously coming from an LGF person who is butthurt because LVQ kicks his ass on a regular basis.
And since the comment was deleted so quickly, it's originating from someone who was on that thread at the time.
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Gus Mon, Apr 19, 2010 12:14:18am |
re: #189 iceweasel
Yep. Hence my claim that Walter's email is obviously coming from an LGF person who is butthurt because LVQ kicks his ass on a regular basis.
And since the comment was deleted so quickly, it's originating from someone who was on that thread at the time.
Right. Anyway, we're being monitored again. Poor guy is copying and pasting some of our comments over there.
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freetoken Mon, Apr 19, 2010 12:15:19am |
Looks like I'll have to reboot my Mac... I had to dump the Finder after it hung up during the Time Machine backup. I guess I shouldn't mind, since I rarely crash the machine. However, the Finder is a weakness on the Mac.
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Kragar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 12:16:04am |
re: #188 Kruk
For no reason whatsoever: Rap by people who should never rap.
[Video]
This one goes out to all my homies working in Evolutionary Science
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freetoken Mon, Apr 19, 2010 12:16:29am |
re: #190 Gus 802
It's amazing how the internet has transformed so many people into acting like a gaggle of little old ladies at their knitting club. You'd think somebody would have more important things to do than stalk a blog somewhere.
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Gus Mon, Apr 19, 2010 12:20:11am |
re: #193 freetoken
It's amazing how the internet has transformed so many people into acting like a gaggle of little old ladies at their knitting club. You'd think somebody would have more important things to do than stalk a blog somewhere.
What's also amazing is how they attempt to focus on the personalities. That is they take an interest in our lives when you come down to it and try to make an assessment from there -- which of course is usually wrong. This is from people I've never even seen or heard of before some a website that barely gets any traffic.
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Aye Pod Mon, Apr 19, 2010 12:23:11am |
re: #190 Gus 802
Right. Anyway, we're being monitored again. Poor guy is copying and pasting some of our comments over there.
Time to work on a new Satanic Prayer List then. For now, since the butthurt over ice and I's wedding video may have abated, here's an update for them on our current status.
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The Left Mon, Apr 19, 2010 12:30:41am |
re: #194 Gus 802
What's also amazing is how they attempt to focus on the personalities. That is they take an interest in our lives when you come down to it and try to make an assessment from there -- which of course is usually wrong. This is from people I've never even seen or heard of before some a website that barely gets any traffic.
Tell me about it. It's pretty interesting in terms of psychology when you can take an objective view on it. Massive projection-- my theory is that the internet by its nature enables and fosters projection. The total lack of physical cues of any kind makes it all too easy for freakazoids to project qualities, good and bad, onto others-- and to work out their personal issues on innocent unknown others.
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Gus Mon, Apr 19, 2010 12:35:04am |
re: #197 iceweasel
Tell me about it. It's pretty interesting in terms of psychology when you can take an objective view on it. Massive projection-- my theory is that the internet by its nature enables and fosters projection. The total lack of physical cues of any kind makes it all too easy for freakazoids to project qualities, good and bad, onto others-- and to work out their personal issues on innocent unknown others.
Yep. It's been that way since the inception of the internet. USENET was notoriously crazy about even the dumbest of things. Especially the soc.* groups. It's pretty funny to watch so many nerds act all macho and such. Some of those feuds lasted about 10 years with people waking up in the morning thinking about how they will get revenge on so and so. Weird stuff.
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Aye Pod Mon, Apr 19, 2010 12:36:48am |
re: #196 ralphieboy
Weasels ripped mah kilt!!!
Aye she did - an ah liked it. (She nibbled mah sporran as well byrawiy)
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 19, 2010 12:40:42am |
Oh god gin and tonics and dicussion about which Skinny Puppy record is best, what's up with you guys
Also, this beer is fucking WEIRD AND AMAZING [Link: www.thebrewsite.com...]
And probably impossible to find outside the NW.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 19, 2010 12:42:32am |
re: #198 Gus 802
Yep. It's been that way since the inception of the internet. USENET was notoriously crazy about even the dumbest of things. Especially the soc.* groups. It's pretty funny to watch so many nerds act all macho and such. Some of those feuds lasted about 10 years with people waking up in the morning thinking about how they will get revenge on so and so. Weird stuff.
I was on alt.fan.furry, oh man I don't even want to talk about it
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Aye Pod Mon, Apr 19, 2010 12:44:30am |
re: #201 WindUpBird
I was on alt.fan.furry, oh man I don't even want to talk about it
WUB, I HAVE to ask you now-- do you know the story of the wingnut furry? The wingnut who is a furry and wrote some pretty awful things?...
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The Left Mon, Apr 19, 2010 12:49:32am |
re: #202 Jimmah
WUB, I HAVE to ask you now-- do you know the story of the wingnut furry? The wingnut who is a furry and wrote some pretty awful things?...
Whoops-- sorry, this was from iceweasel, not Jimmah. J and I are sharing a computer.
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Gus Mon, Apr 19, 2010 12:50:43am |
re: #203 iceweasel
Whoops-- sorry, this was from iceweasel, not Jimmah. J and I are sharing a computer.
Now I'm waiting to hear the story of the wingnut furry.
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Gus Mon, Apr 19, 2010 1:01:44am |
Oh noz! What will teh rich people do!
New Yorkers Brace for Doorman Strike
It has been nearly two decades since New Yorkers faced their last doorman strike, but as the deadline for a new contract for building workers approached, the questions being posed throughout the city remained largely unchanged on Sunday...
Good luck doormen!
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Gus Mon, Apr 19, 2010 1:06:23am |
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Gus Mon, Apr 19, 2010 1:10:02am |
Top Goldman Leaders Said to Have Overseen Mortgage Unit
It was late 2006, and an argument had broken out inside the Wall Street bank’s prized mortgage unit — a dispute that would reach all the way up to the executive suite.
One camp of traders was insisting that the American housing market was safe. Another thought it was poised for collapse.
Among those who saw disaster looming were an effusive young Frenchman, Fabrice P. Tourre, and his quiet colleague, Jonathan M. Egol, the mastermind behind a series of mortgage deals known as the Abacus investments.
Their elite mortgage unit is now at the center of allegations that Goldman and Mr. Tourre, 31, defrauded investors with one of those complex deals.
The Securities and Exchange Commission filed a civil fraud suit on Friday that essentially says that Goldman built the financial equivalent of a time bomb and then sold it to unwitting investors. Mr. Egol, 40, was not named in the S.E.C.’s suit...
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Gus Mon, Apr 19, 2010 1:14:24am |
Frank Rich: Racism, Neo-Confederate Rebellion Reaching A Fever Pitch
It's kind of like that legendary stunt on the prime-time soap "Dallas," where we learned that nothing bad had really happened because the previous season's episodes were all a dream. We now know that the wave of anger that crashed on the Capitol as the health care bill passed last month — the death threats and epithets hurled at members of Congress — was also a mirage...
How our current spike in neo-Confederate rebellion will end is unknown. It’s unnerving that Tea Party leaders and conservatives in the Oklahoma Legislature now aim to create a new volunteer militia that, as The Associated Press described it, would use as yet mysterious means to “help defend against what they believe are improper federal infringements on state sovereignty.” This is the same ideology that animated Timothy McVeigh, whose strike against the tyrannical federal government will reach its 15th anniversary on Monday in the same city where the Oklahoma Legislature meets.
What is known is that the nearly all-white G.O.P. is so traumatized by race it has now morphed into a bizarre paragon of both liberal and conservative racial political correctness. For irrefutable proof, look no further than the peculiar case of its chairman, Steele, whose reckless spending and incompetence would cost him his job at any other professional organization, let alone a political operation during an election year. Steele has job security only because he is the sole black man in a white party hierarchy. That hierarchy is as fearful of crossing him as it is of calling out the extreme Obama haters in its ranks.
At least we can take solace in the news that there’s no documentary evidence proving that Tea Party demonstrators hurled racist epithets at John Lewis. They were, it seems, only whistling “Dixie.”
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Gus Mon, Apr 19, 2010 1:17:36am |
Climategate Claptrap, I
By Mark Hertsgaard
Mark Twain famously said that there are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics. He could just as easily have included polls. Advocates across the political spectrum habitually cite polls to "prove" that the public holds a certain view of a given issue, even when the truth is more complicated or even contradictory. This appears to be happening with the climate issue. As the Obama administration and Congressional leaders prepare to introduce new climate legislation, mainstream media have given fresh prominence to deniers' claims of fraud and rampant error on the part of climate scientists. Meanwhile, surveys by Gallup and other leading pollsters are being spun as evidence that the deniers are gaining ground among the public, which is supposedly divided over whether to take action against rising temperatures and the droughts, storms and sea-level rise they trigger. A closer look, however, suggests that public opinion has changed very little. What has changed is the message coming from the media, key parts of which have reverted to their longstanding posture of scientific illiteracy and de facto complicity with the deniers' disinformation campaign...
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Gus Mon, Apr 19, 2010 1:20:11am |
Fox News Ignores Rupert's Clean Little Secret
Rupert Murdoch's Fox News Channel and the editorial page of his Wall Street Journal may scorn global warming as an anti-capitalist hoax perpetrated by greedy scientists, but when his media empire's own vast butt is concerned, he's hedging his bets. Murdoch's Dow Jones & Co., which publishes the Journal, released a memo on Monday announcing that it is building "the largest solar power installation at a single commercial site in the U.S." And guess what: Instead of strangling free enterprise or other such rightwing claptrap, Dow Jones says, "We save the earth's resources and save money too."
All the stats of tree-huggy goodness--more than 13,000 solar panels covering nearly 230,000 square feet to generate 4.1 megawatts of electricity from the sun, etc.--are detailed here.
But seeing News Corp., Murdoch's overall company, earnestly brag about its environmental foresight, you would never know that Fox News is, hands down, the world's loudest pusher of the lie that "There's no global warming" (Hannity), that it's a "global warming scam" Glenn Beck), or, as Fox's newest hire, Sarah Palin, scoffs, it's "a bunch of snake oil science." Over at the Journal, Bret Stephens wrote last week, "global warming is dead... Which means that pretty soon we're going to need another apocalyptic scare to take its place."...
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Gus Mon, Apr 19, 2010 1:26:18am |
Ah, here it is.
Party of Lincoln, Party of Reagan, Party of Furries
America’s greatest new blog journalist, the Boston Globe’s Garrett Quinn, sends this Perfect Photograph from this weekend’s Massachusetts GOP convention. How do we know that’s not Scott Brown in the middle, hiding from Sarah Palin? First, he is not naked. Second, Scott Brown’s fur is on his own skin
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 19, 2010 1:27:57am |
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The Left Mon, Apr 19, 2010 1:28:33am |
re: #204 Gus 802
Now I'm waiting to hear the story of the wingnut furry.
Ok-- well....this is from 2008: Short version: Wingnuts freak out over Obama's great uncle and exactly which he camp he helped liberate-- hilarity ensues. Furrygate: the Furrying
Links are in the link I gave--
It’s been a rough week for Dan Riehl, Steve Gilbert and their fellow dumpster-diving, countertop-appraising Stinkertons. In pursuing the riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma that isn’t the military record of Barack Obama’s great-uncle, they’ve had their ears boxed by a WWII vet, been easily proven wrong in their speculative fantasies and come this close to breaking bread with Holocaust deniers as they parsed the differences between stops on the Nazi roadmap to the Final Solution.It really couldn’t get more embarrassing for these people, could it? Well, it could, but we’d have to imagine a twist to this story so far-fetched as to beggar belief. Like, say, if the eager investigator on Gilbert’s ‘Sweetness and Light’ blog who sent harassing emails to WWII vet Ray Kitchell and his son Mark:
—– Original Message —–
From: cigarskunk
To: [mark kitchell]
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 6:38 PM
Subject: Searching for Charles W PayneDear Sirs,
In light of the recent controversy over the military service of Barrak Obama’s grandfather, Charles W Payne, I was hoping to contact you to get some kind of verification of his membership in the 89th.
I’ve checked the records of [Link: www.kshs.org...] and they only list him as being in the Navy.
I would like to get a second source to confirm that Obama is still lying on this subject as my grandfathers, father and uncles all served in WWII, Korea and Vietnam and I don’t particularly care for politicians lying about the service of family members to further thier political agendas.
Thank you in advance!
From: [Mark Kitchell]
To: cigarskunk[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Subject: Re: Searching for Charles W Payne
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 18:52:48 +0200You are the one who is lying. Mr. Payne served in the 89th Divison, 355th Infantry Regiment, Company K.
…Turned out to be a sexual fetishist who regularly commissions artwork of himself as a cigar-chomping skunk getting its knob sucked by a menagerie of voluptuously drawn cartoon rabbits, gophers and other assorted mammalia. If he turned out to be a regular attendee of ‘furry’ gatherings so desperate and noxious in his social interactions that members of that oft-maligned subculture shunned him as a pariah.Which is preposterous, of course. There’s just no way a person like that could be one of the leading figures in the Wingnutosphere’s ongoing Great Uncle investigation. It would be far too surreal if… Wait, what’s that you say?
No, you must be jok-
OMFG. You are fucking kidding me.
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Gus Mon, Apr 19, 2010 1:34:10am |
re: #213 iceweasel
What a bunch of fools. It was an honest mistake on Obama's part. I remember at the time I checked the official draftee list at one of the government archives and he was there. I'm sure they still don't believe it. Sweetness and Light is another "mental" wingnut site.
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Gus Mon, Apr 19, 2010 1:35:46am |
re: #213 iceweasel
This comment is hilarious:
Oh please. Next thing you’re going to tell me is that Glenn Reynolds, the intrepid lawyer, citizen journalist, and macho firearms connoisseur is all into, oh I dunno…robot love, or something.
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The Left Mon, Apr 19, 2010 1:36:21am |
re: #214 Gus 802
What a bunch of fools. It was an honest mistake on Obama's part. I remember at the time I checked the official draftee list at one of the government archives and he was there. I'm sure they still don't believe it. Sweetness and Light is another "mental" wingnut site.
Yep. I have more dirt on "sweetness and light" but can't recall it.
But yeah, this particular wingnut freakout (which I have seen recycled here, even in the last 6 months) involved fringe wingnut bloggers sending abusive emails to vets. SuPPoRT ArE TrOOpS!1!
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 19, 2010 1:37:47am |
re: #215 Gus 802
Hey! Don't be dissing my robot grrrl!111!!1
Image: kosmos01.png
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The Left Mon, Apr 19, 2010 1:39:34am |
re: #215 Gus 802
This comment is hilarious:
Oh please. Next thing you’re going to tell me is that Glenn Reynolds, the intrepid lawyer, citizen journalist, and macho firearms connoisseur is all into, oh I dunno…robot love, or something.
I WILL SCREW YOU OPTIMUS PRIME!
Insty is into robot sex. As we've discussed, I think!
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Gus Mon, Apr 19, 2010 1:39:56am |
re: #216 iceweasel
Yep. I have more dirt on "sweetness and light" but can't recall it.
But yeah, this particular wingnut freakout (which I have seen recycled here, even in the last 6 months) involved fringe wingnut bloggers sending abusive emails to vets. SuPPoRT ArE TrOOpS!1!
Eleventy! Yeah, support the vets only if they're wingnuts like them.
Haven't seen that particular nontroversy recycled here. I sometimes ignore the ODS. The one I keep seeing is the "57 states" nontroversy.
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Gus Mon, Apr 19, 2010 1:42:45am |
Wingnuts should be seen and not heard.
I know I keep trying.
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 19, 2010 1:43:45am |
re: #218 iceweasel
That never gets old nor any more wrong.
XD
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The Left Mon, Apr 19, 2010 1:46:14am |
re: #219 Gus 802
Eleventy! Yeah, support the vets only if they're wingnuts like them.
Haven't seen that particular nontroversy recycled here. I sometimes ignore the ODS. The one I keep seeing is the "57 states" nontroversy.
The main ones are Alinsky! Wright! Ayers!
August 2008 called, wingnuts. It wants its CDs back, but says you can keep the talking points and wishes you much happiness together.
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Idle Drifter Mon, Apr 19, 2010 1:50:09am |
re: #218 iceweasel
It's not as bad as the two Transformer movies wrecking havoc on childhood nostalgia.
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Gus Mon, Apr 19, 2010 1:51:18am |
re: #222 iceweasel
The main ones are Alinsky! Wright! Ayers!
August 2008 called, wingnuts. It wants its CDs back, but says you can keep the talking points and wishes you much happiness together.
When you're young and come from that generation which I share with Obama you read anything and everything. That includes Alinsky. I didn't happen to read that myself. Wright was his pastor. Who cares. McCain's pastor was rather off the wall himself and was Palin's. Pastors are generally off the wall. He barely knows Ayers. Last time I checked he shared a table with some Republicans in the Annenberg school committee (Chicago Annenberg Challenge).
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The Left Mon, Apr 19, 2010 1:55:26am |
re: #224 Gus 802
When you're young and come from that generation which I share with Obama you read anything and everything. That includes Alinsky. I didn't happen to read that myself. Wright was his pastor. Who cares. McCain's pastor was rather off the wall himself and was Palin's. Pastors are generally off the wall. He barely knows Ayers. Last time I checked he shared a table with some Republicans in the Annenberg school committee (Chicago Annenberg Challenge).
oooh, we have to talk later! (totally agree, just have some to add) Sent you some stuff on twitter btw.
Jimmah and I have to take off now-- bye from us!
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Gus Mon, Apr 19, 2010 1:55:33am |
re: #224 Gus 802
When you're young and come from that generation which I share with Obama you read anything and everything. That includes Alinsky. I didn't happen to read that myself. Wright was his pastor. Who cares. McCain's pastor was rather off the wall himself and was Palin's. Pastors are generally off the wall. He barely knows Ayers. Last time I checked he shared a table with some Republicans in the Annenberg school committee (Chicago Annenberg Challenge).
And here was the lead founding board of director for the Anneberg Challenge:
Patricia Albjerg Graham
Director
Apache Corporation
Houston , TX
Sector: BASIC MATERIALS / Independent Oil & Gas
74 Years Old
PATRICIA ALBJERG GRAHAM, 74, joined the Company?s board of directors in September 2002. Dr. Graham is the Charles Warren Professor of the History of Education, Emerita at Harvard University. She joined the faculty of Harvard Graduate School of Education in 1974 and served as its dean from 1982 to 1991. From 1991 to 2000, she served as president of the Spencer Foundation, the nation?s leading funder of research into educational improvement. Dr. Graham is a director of Central European University, Smolny College of St. Petersburg State University, Russia, and the Josiah Macy, Jr. Foundation.
Which also included:
Arnold R. Weber, president of the Civic Committee of the Commercial Club of Chicago (1995–1999); member of the board of directors of the Arie and Ida Crown Memorial and the Tribune Company; former president of Northwestern University (1985–1994) and the University of Colorado (1980–1985); professor of labor economics and friend and colleague of George P. Shultz at MIT, the University of Chicago, and in the Nixon administration.
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Gus Mon, Apr 19, 2010 1:56:50am |
re: #225 iceweasel
oooh, we have to talk later! (totally agree, just have some to add) Sent you some stuff on twitter btw.
Jimmah and I have to take off now-- bye from us!
OK Ice. You and Jimmah have a good one. Enjoy the Empire State Building visit.
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laZardo Mon, Apr 19, 2010 1:57:27am |
So there's an iPad 3G coming out next month, as well as an iPhone 4G.
Goddammit, and I only upgraded from monochrome text-messaging to color text-messaging last year.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 19, 2010 2:04:43am |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 19, 2010 2:06:12am |
re: #223 Idle Drifter
It's not as bad as the two Transformer movies wrecking havoc on childhood nostalgia.
The only Transformers movie I recognize is the 80's one where Hot Rod became Rodimus Prime.
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Idle Drifter Mon, Apr 19, 2010 2:10:56am |
re: #228 laZardo
So there's an iPad 3G coming out next month, as well as an iPhone 4G.
Goddammit, and I only upgraded from monochrome text-messaging to color text-messaging last year.
I have the same Motorola RAZR for over 5 years. Damn thing has been dropped and abused, though never sent through the washer, and it keeps going. I guess I'll upgrade when they come out with a phone with a tazer app.
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freetoken Mon, Apr 19, 2010 2:18:31am |
I didn't know (or perhaps I had forgotten that) we had an "environment" category in the spin-offs until I saw Charles link from tonight.
Anyway, I put up a link about the EPA intending to reduce mercury production from the gold industry.
In the current administration it seems like the EPA has finally got its mojo back.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Apr 19, 2010 3:51:02am |
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 19, 2010 3:54:01am |
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sattv4u2 Mon, Apr 19, 2010 3:55:26am |
re: #232 freetoken
I didn't know (or perhaps I had forgotten that) we had an "environment" category in the spin-offs until I saw Charles link from tonight.
Anyway, I put up a link about the EPA intending to reduce mercury production from the gold industry.
In the current administration it seems like the EPA has finally got its mojo back.
It's never lost it's "mojo"
It's been cleaning up rivers, lakes, finding and fining companies that have toxic waste dump sites all along. They're work is mostly under the radar unless there is a huge find.
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 19, 2010 3:58:27am |
re: #232 freetoken
I didn't know (or perhaps I had forgotten that) we had an "environment" category in the spin-offs until I saw Charles link from tonight.
Anyway, I put up a link about the EPA intending to reduce mercury production from the gold industry.
In the current administration it seems like the EPA has finally got its mojo back.
Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!111!!!
They're coming for our GOOOLLLDDD~
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sattv4u2 Mon, Apr 19, 2010 3:59:40am |
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 19, 2010 4:04:15am |
re: #241 sattv4u2
from grammar school
'A,E,I,O,U, and SOMETIMES Y!!!
Why o why must you slander Y???
:P
Now, off I go to work save the day!
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sattv4u2 Mon, Apr 19, 2010 4:11:25am |
re: #242 Varek Raith
Why o why must you slander Y???
:PNow, off I go to
worksave the day!
"That means that Mighty Mouse, is on the way!"
((great ,,, now that frakkin theme song will be rattling around in my skull all day)))
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sattv4u2 Mon, Apr 19, 2010 4:12:06am |
re: #243 sattv4u2
"That means that Mighty Mouse, is on the way!"
((great ,,, now that frakkin theme song will be rattling around in my skull all day)))
[Link: www.evtv1.com...]
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 4:36:21am |
My wife and I visited a VERY conservative white Baptist Church yesterday morning. Saw fifteen black folks there, one young black man joined the Church at the end of the service... the place went berserk... genuine celebration... laughter, applause, cheering, etc...
The wife loved the place... I'm still not sure... but... well... it was cool.
There. Let's talk about how Southerner's hate blacks...
Well, nothing else is being talked about...
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sattv4u2 Mon, Apr 19, 2010 4:42:11am |
re: #245 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My wife and I visited a VERY conservative white Baptist Church yesterday morning. Saw fifteen black folks there, one young black man joined the Church at the end of the service... the place went berserk... genuine celebration... laughter, applause, cheering, etc...
The wife loved the place... I'm still not sure... but... well... it was cool.
There. Let's talk about how Southerner's hate blacks...
Well, nothing else is being talked about...
Had my sons confirmation at our Catholic Church yesterday afternoon
Like your story, the place was packed,,genuine celebration... laughter, applause, cheering, etc...and like the general population, our church is a little over 10% black members
They gave an award for the Teen that had done the best during the lead up to their confirmations,, highest scores in tests,, most hours of community and church service
It went to one of my sons closest friends
Yup,, you guessed it,, a black kid
I thought the roof was going to cave in from the appluase
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 4:50:35am |
Okay, let's not.
What's up Sattv?
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Taqyia2Me Mon, Apr 19, 2010 4:54:19am |
This was a pleasantly surprising read yesterday am:
[Link: www.sj-r.com...]
...Ex-Klan leader now preaches tolerance
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 4:58:46am |
re: #248 Taqyia2Me
Stories like that are the reason why I don't give Senator Byrd too much poking. The greatest thing about personal redemption (not speaking in religious terms) is that without regard to how bad you were; it only matters how you are.
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Taqyia2Me Mon, Apr 19, 2010 5:02:28am |
re: #249 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Stories like that are the reason why I don't give Senator Byrd too much poking. The greatest thing about personal redemption (not speaking in religious terms) is that without regard to how bad you were; it only matters how you are.
Yeah, looking in the mirror, I cannot count all the things I am so thankful to be away from in my own life. Not that I was ever in Klan, or some such, mind you!
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Apr 19, 2010 5:16:12am |
Volcanic emission of 500 pounds per second - that be some wide load of ash headed for the east coast of Canada.
Good Morning LGF.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 5:23:06am |
re: #251 Spare O'Lake
Mother nature is sooo bad...
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Apr 19, 2010 5:28:08am |
re: #249 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Stories like that are the reason why I don't give Senator Byrd too much poking. The greatest thing about personal redemption (not speaking in religious terms) is that without regard to how bad you were; it only matters how you are.
I have a real problem with this concept. I figure it's just not fair to the victims for the perp to get a pass for really heinous conduct by simply saying some nice words...at least not until the perp has been punished, made material restitution to the victims, and paid his debt to society.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 5:29:02am |
re: #254 Spare O'Lake
Why I used the words "personal redemption"... I am not talking about consequences of actions...
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Randall Gross Mon, Apr 19, 2010 5:35:02am |
Good morning all -- since we are on a GTAIV theme this am
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Apr 19, 2010 5:38:46am |
re: #255 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Why I used the words "personal redemption"... I am not talking about consequences of actions...
I know you said you don't mean religious redemption, but that sure sounds like a lot of the religious gobbledygook that I've been fed and spit up in my day.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 5:39:04am |
Westboro Baptist fucks had a protest at a high skool in Plant City. I almost don't want to post this link, but I think I kinda need to. Worthless fuckers.
[Link: www.godhatesfags.com...]
(feel free to report this to Charles for deletion)
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Apr 19, 2010 5:41:26am |
Gotta go aggravate the real folks for a while.
Laters gators.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 5:42:08am |
re: #258 Spare O'Lake
That's okay, it's a personal thing with me. You don't have to be "on board" with me on it.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 19, 2010 5:47:39am |
Good morning lizards!
Hillary is connected to a fresh scandal this morning...
Hill's aides in 'bully' crystal
WASHINGTON -- Politically connected staffers in Hillary Rodham Clinton's State Department twisted arms to steer a $5.4 million contract for crystal stemware to a tiny interior-design firm without putting it out for bid -- a move that shut out a well-known New York glassmaker, a department whistleblower told The Post.
Two senior State Department contracting officials, Randolph Bennett and Tandra Jones, successfully pushed for the contract to go to a firm run by Denise Mathis-Gardner as a no-bid minority "8(a)" contract, the source said -- an action that one shut-out competitor complained cost taxpayers an extra $1 million.
The contracted firm, Systems Design Inc., based in Washington's Georgetown neighborhood, had no experience making glassware, and its owner had only recently emerged from bankruptcy proceedings, the source said.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 5:52:31am |
re: #262 NJDhockeyfan
Meh... Crystal Gate?
Nah... this kind of shit has gone on in Washington since... forever...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 5:54:09am |
re: #259 Cannadian Club Akbar
They called Obama the Anti-Christ...
(Phelps only wishes he could be the big "A")
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 5:55:06am |
re: #264 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Aaaand since I clicked the link, gonna run malware/spyware....
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 19, 2010 5:58:15am |
re: #265 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Aaaand since I clicked the link, gonna run malware/spyware...
God Hates Viruses.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 19, 2010 5:59:02am |
Ahmadinejad confirms location of new nuclear sites
'The venue of new sites has been located according to atomic energy organization plan.'
Iranian President has confirmed the process of locating new nuclear sites and will order the process of instructing nuclear center, Ahmadinejad aid announced Monday.
Mujtaba Samareh Hashemi said that according to President Ahmadinejad views on instruction of new nuclear sites 'the venue of new sites has been located according to atomic energy organization plan and the process of building these centers continues.'
Ahmadinejad top aid said 'identification, bordering, planning operations and implementation of new nuclear sites are being pursued and it will be constructed by President order.'
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:01:14am |
Uh, um, and so on.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
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Stonemason Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:02:20am |
re: #262 NJDhockeyfan
How many glasses do we need? Seriously, $5.4 million? For stemware?
Even at $100 per (which is outrageous), that is 54,000 glasses. Where can they fit? Or is it $5,350,000 for design and $50,000 for goblets?
Am I the only person wondering why the State Department is spending 5.4 million freaking dollars on stemware?
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Stonemason Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:03:30am |
re: #269 Cannadian Club Akbar
Uh, um, and so on.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
NEVER rely on spell check to give you the right word!
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:03:46am |
re: #268 NJDhockeyfan
In that same vein:
Saudi Arabia announces nuclear centre
[Link: www.ft.com...]
Although all discussions have focused upon civilian uses of the technology, analysts note that Saudis and the other Arab Gulf states do not want to lag further behind Iran and Israel in developing nuclear technologies.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:03:54am |
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:04:13am |
re: #270 Stonemason
How many glasses do we need? Seriously, $5.4 million? For stemware?
Even at $100 per (which is outrageous), that is 54,000 glasses. Where can they fit? Or is it $5,350,000 for design and $50,000 for goblets?
Am I the only person wondering why the State Department is spending 5.4 million freaking dollars on stemware?
Stimulus?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:04:33am |
re: #268 NJDhockeyfan
In other words... "Bomb Here".
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:04:40am |
re: #270 Stonemason
How many glasses do we need? Seriously, $5.4 million? For stemware?
Even at $100 per (which is outrageous), that is 54,000 glasses. Where can they fit? Or is it $5,350,000 for design and $50,000 for goblets?
Am I the only person wondering why the State Department is spending 5.4 million freaking dollars on stemware?
Why not, its only money. It's not like we're having deficit problems or anything.
/
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:05:25am |
re: #259 Cannadian Club Akbar
Those creeps were going to picket one of our local high schools for an end-of-the-year play the school's drama club was performing - but they never showed up, thank goodness.
They're also going to picket, it looks like, a Catholic school or two for the sin of being Catholic.
Sacred Heart of Jesus Catholic School - You have to make those catholic brats wear iron underwear
. . .
it's just a filthy free-for-all at those Catholic whorehouses these days. WBC must come and inject a drop of sanity into that insane orgy of lies and filth. The time is short for pervert Catholics
and Jewish school for the sin of being Jewish. I won't post what they said about those schools.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:05:56am |
re: #277 NJDhockeyfan
Why not, its only money. It's not like we're having deficit problems or anything.
/
But the money spent saved/created a job.
/
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:06:00am |
re: #272 Stonemason
NEVER rely on spell check to give you the right word!
Best proofreading advice (for spelling errors and wrong words) I ever got... read backwards... eyes focus on the words not on the content.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:06:08am |
re: #275 RogueOne
Stimulus?
Yes....in Sweden...
"They [SDI] don't know how to make glass. The glassware is being made in Sweden."
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:06:57am |
re: #278 reine.de.tout
They have about 5 protest in Tampa. Fucking idiots.
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Stonemason Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:07:14am |
re: #277 NJDhockeyfan
Why not, its only money. It's not like we're having deficit problems or anything.
/
We are all just so used to seeing this, this insane spending on useless stuff. I can't even imagine the justification for this, and I am trying hard to come up with even justification for spending a million bucks. I can't do that.
I know that there are give-aways, mugs, glasses with logos, crap like that, but $5.4 million?
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:07:39am |
re: #280 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Best proofreading advice (for spelling errors and wrong words) I ever got... read backwards... eyes focus on the words not on the content.
Hey, FBV!
It is a good method of proofing.
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Stonemason Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:08:27am |
re: #280 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Best proofreading advice (for spelling errors and wrong words) I ever got... read backwards... eyes focus on the words not on the content.
yup...taught the same thing. It forces you to look at the words.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:11:47am |
Extramarital sex fuels earthquakes, warns Iran cleric
A SENIOR Iranian cleric has claimed that dolled-up women incite extramarital sex, causing more earthquakes in Iran, a country that straddles several fault lines, newspapers reported today.
"Many women who dress inappropriately ... cause youths to go astray, taint their chastity and incite extramarital sex in society, which increases earthquakes," Ayatollah Kazem Sedighi told worshippers at overnight prayers in Tehran.
"Calamities are the result of people's deeds," he was quoted as saying by reformist Aftab-e Yazd newspaper.
"We have no way but conform to Islam to ward off dangers."
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:11:55am |
During the last 8 years the dem/libtards loved, LOVED, libertarians. Now, we're satan's spawn, wonder why?
Libertarians lead Independent shift from Obama
[Link: www.politico.com...]
Who are these centrist, independent-minded voters who swung the elections in Virginia, New Jersey and Massachusetts to Republican candidates and are likely to be crucial in races this fall?Political analysts are searching for a name. They have tried “tea partier,” “populist,” “conservative,” even “strange and unpredictable.”
None of these fits, however.
These voters are neither populist nor conservative. But many may be libertarian — fiscally conservative but socially liberal or tolerant.
A careful look at polling data shows these voters may be less mysterious than analysts think.
Libertarians seem to be a leading indicator of this trend in centrist, independent-minded voters, based on an analysis of many years of polling data. We estimate that libertarians compose from 14 percent to 23 percent of voters nationally. They are among the few real swing voters in U.S. politics.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:13:04am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:14:41am |
re: #287 NJDhockeyfan
Fucker'd better be glad I'm married...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:14:58am |
re: #287 NJDhockeyfan
If the desert is rockin'...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:15:51am |
re: #287 NJDhockeyfan
Baby! I felt the earth move!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:19:00am |
re: #287 NJDhockeyfan
If the camel's rockin'?
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:19:07am |
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:19:53am |
re: #262 NJDhockeyfan
Good morning lizards!
Hillary is connected to a fresh scandal this morning...
Also in that story:
As The Post first reported last month, SDI shut out upstate's Steuben Glass, which has made government glassware since the Truman administration.
. . .
Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY) met with State officials to grill them about the contract last month, shortly after The Post's report, and said afterward that the department would reopen the contract for bidding.
What we have here is State Dept staff deciding for whatever reason that the contract should be a no-bid contract going to a minority-owned firm, and then a NY politician entering the fray after a complaint by the upstate Steuben firm in order to make sure Steuben is taken care of.
Politics as usual.
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Cato the Elder Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:20:26am |
re: #288 RogueOne
During the last 8 years the dem/libtards loved, LOVED, libertarians. Now, we're satan's spawn, wonder why?
Libertarians lead Independent shift from Obama
[Link: www.politico.com...]
I don't remember ever loving libertarians, especially not the Ron Paulian/Anus Randian variety. WTF you talkin' about, Willis?
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Daniel Ballard Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:20:41am |
Good Morning. News says Obama is coming to my home town to stump for Barbara Boxer. I am not and will not be favorably impressed. I want that incumbent out. I appreciate the Presidential visit, but Boxer?! No thanks Mr President.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:21:23am |
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:23:38am |
Doh!
Gore takes cash for water campaign from chemical firm
Al Gore, the self-styled squeakiest-clean and deepest-green politician in American history, has some explaining to do this weekend. His environmental organisation has taken money to raise awareness about the need for clean water from a controversial chemicals company involved in the aftermath of one of the world's worst pollution disasters.
Dow Chemical, the US firm which now owns the leaking pesticides
factory responsible for thousands of deaths in Bhopal, India, is sponsoring Life Earth events in 150 cities today. The event aims to raise money for clean water programmes. Research by environmental organisations has found dangerous levels of highly toxic chemicals in rivers, lakes and other water supplies close to several other factories owned by Dow and its subsidiaries in countries including the United States, Brazil and South Africa.Dow's factories at its global headquarters in Midland, Michigan, have been accused of contaminating the region, including the Tittabawassee River floodplains, with high levels of dioxin – one of the "dirty dozen" most dangerous chemicals. In 2007, the highest level of dioxin contamination ever measured by the US Environmental Protection Agency was found in the Michigan Saginaw River. Residents are advised to avoid contact with river sediments and not to eat locally caught fish.
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Locker Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:23:58am |
re: #288 RogueOne
During the last 8 years the dem/libtards loved, LOVED, libertarians. Now, we're satan's spawn, wonder why?
Libertarians lead Independent shift from Obama
[Link: www.politico.com...]
Well it seems at least one conservatard likes to delude themselves quite a bit.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:24:50am |
re: #300 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I do too... but, of course, I'm fat...
You score higher on the Richter scale.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:24:51am |
re: #282 Cannadian Club Akbar
They have about 5 protest in Tampa. Fucking idiots.
I guess they figure while they're there, might as well catch all the sinners . . .
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:26:07am |
re: #282 Cannadian Club Akbar
They have about 5 protest in Tampa. Fucking idiots.
Where are they getting their money from?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:26:40am |
re: #299 Rightwingconspirator
I'd like to have them all voted out...
My guy's okay, but the rest of them...
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Obdicut Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:26:41am |
re: #288 RogueOne
Because "libertarian" in the US doesn't really mean much. It spans the gamut from people who are simply socially liberal and fiscally conservative, but who would never vote for a SoCon because they prize, well, liberty, to people who's primary issue is national defense and will never vote for a Democrat because they feel they're weak on national security, to people whose political philosophy begins and ends with 'the government should be smaller', to isolationists who live in a world of conspiracy theories. The Libertarian Party itself, of course, has been involved in an orgy of selling out over the past decade and has little integrity left.
I'm a fiscal pragmatist who'd like to see everything the US government does tested to see if it actually works, and all bills passed to have a metric for their success, a timeframe for testing that success, so that we can end any spending programs that don't work, instead of having them stay and grow year after year, sucking up money and accomplishing little.
I also value individual human liberty extremely highly, so I want to address the problems we have with that in this country-- gay rights, the weakening of the church/state barrier, law enforcement having too much power, private prisons having an incentive for harsher laws, etc. etc.
I don't call myself a libertarian, though, because the word has been rendered nearly meaningless at this point.
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:26:57am |
re: #298 Cato the Elder
I don't remember ever loving libertarians, especially not the Ron Paulian/Anus Randian variety. WTF you talkin' about, Willis?
They, by "they" I mean dems, tried to bring us into their fold by calling themselves "liberal-tarians". They went out of their way to be nice because we had a common enemy, they were just confused about all the reasons libertarians were upset with Bush.
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Locker Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:28:13am |
re: #308 RogueOne
They, by "they" I mean dems, tried to bring us into their fold by calling themselves "liberal-tarians". They went out of their way to be nice because we had a common enemy, they were just confused about all the reasons libertarians were upset with Bush.
I never, ever thought, saw or heard a single liberal call themselves a liberal-tarian and I never thought, saw or heard a single liberal express the thought that libertarians were on our side against Bush... at all.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:29:08am |
re: #299 Rightwingconspirator
Good Morning. News says Obama is coming to my home town to stump for Barbara Boxer. I am not and will not be favorably impressed. I want that incumbent out. I appreciate the Presidential visit, but Boxer?! No thanks Mr President.
Boxer: Backers should have tea partiers' enthusiasm
Sen. Barbara Boxer, California Democrat, told supporters this weekend to get as excited as the "tea party people are."
In August, Mrs. Boxer criticized those protesting health care reform legislation at town-hall meetings and described them as "well-dressed."
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:30:34am |
Just saw a KFC commercial... they have a new sandwich... except... not on bread. Uses two chicken breasts as the bread. Bacon and cheese between the "slices of chicken".
That is just wrong. On sooo many levels...
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darthstar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:31:57am |
re: #299 Rightwingconspirator
Good Morning. News says Obama is coming to my home town to stump for Barbara Boxer. I am not and will not be favorably impressed. I want that incumbent out. I appreciate the Presidential visit, but Boxer?! No thanks Mr President.
Good morning. I like Boxer. She rocks. She is one of the few people in the Senate who call others on their bullshit whenever they see it.
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pingjockey Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:32:03am |
re: #310 NJDhockeyfan
I would think with all the problems California has, anti-incumbent fever may be rather high. Left or Right, a "throw the bums out" feeling may be high.
BTW, it's been 15 years since OKC. Thoughts and prayers to the families of the victims.
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Daniel Ballard Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:32:22am |
re: #310 NJDhockeyfan
Any chance they will make their signs in a big lame hurry? No wait the Dems have spell check cardboard. :)
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:32:38am |
re: #311 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Just saw a KFC commercial... they have a new sandwich... except... not on bread. Uses two chicken breasts as the bread. Bacon and cheese between the "slices of chicken".
That is just wrong. On sooo many levels...
I'm going to have one for lunch today. Somebody had to eat them.
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pingjockey Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:32:47am |
re: #311 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Yummy! Me likes me some chicken!
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:33:48am |
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darthstar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:33:55am |
re: #310 NJDhockeyfan
I think what Boxer is saying is that she wants her supporters to be enthusiastic...not that they should start misspelling their signs and calling the president a foreigner.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:34:44am |
re: #314 Rightwingconspirator
Ain't there a tea party English teacher they could put at the freakin' entrances?
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:34:50am |
re: #288 RogueOne
On some issues regarding rights, liberty & the Constitution, Libertarians could be "the enemy of my enemy". On other issues, though, they remain simply "the enemy". I think you're trying to read too much into American pragmatism.
William
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:35:05am |
Finally, A Real White Supremacist Rally And Almost No One Notices
For two years, opponents of Obama's agenda have been painted by the mainstream media, left-wing blogs and Democratic leadership as racist and extremist white supremacists.
The charges are malicious and false, as documented here dozens of times.
So what happens when there is a real white supremacist, neo-nazi rally? Almost no one notices.
As reported by the LA Times, a neo-nazi rally Saturday in Los Angeles drew a whopping 40 white supremacists and several hundred counter-protesters:
A rally of about 40 white supremacists Saturday on the lawn of Los Angeles City Hall drew hundreds of counter-protesters, sparked brawls in which two people were severely beaten and ended with crowds of demonstrators hurling rocks and bottles at police and departing supremacists.
Outside of the local media and a handful of blogs, the event received scarce attention. None of the usual suspects bothered to cover or comment on it. Firedoglake and Huffington Post covered it, but we saw none of the hyperventilated commentary and lecturing that is directed at Tea Parties.
How curious. Tea Party events which are not white supremacist events are met with derision and abuse, while a real white supremacist rally is met mostly with silence.
There is a lesson here. The attacks on the Tea Parties have nothing to do with stamping out white supremacy and everything to do with shaping the political dialogue to stamp out legitimate opposition to Obama administration policies.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:35:16am |
re: #311 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Just saw a KFC commercial... they have a new sandwich... except... not on bread. Uses two chicken breasts as the bread. Bacon and cheese between the "slices of chicken".
That is just wrong. On sooo many levels...
I agree.
This is definitely what I call "man food".
Mass quantities of meat (and calories)
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freetoken Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:36:09am |
re: #308 RogueOne
They, by "they" I mean dems, tried to bring us into their fold by calling themselves "liberal-tarians".
That was a small group of bloggers/thinkers who tried that, but have pretty much lamented that it hasn't worked. E.g., Brink Lindsey and Will Wilkinson, both associated with Cato.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:37:05am |
re: #323 reine.de.tout
Sandwich only has 540 calories... Yeah... I thought it'd be more.
32 grams of fat and 1380 sodium...
Ain't a health food, that's fer sher...
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darthstar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:37:11am |
re: #311 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Just saw a KFC commercial... they have a new sandwich... except... not on bread. Uses two chicken breasts as the bread. Bacon and cheese between the "slices of chicken".
That is just wrong. On sooo many levels...
The "chicken" has been "breaded" and fried. So I guess you could say there is bread, but I will say that KFC does make me reconsider going back to being a vegetarian when I consider the food they serve.
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:37:12am |
re: #302 Locker
Well it seems at least one conservatard likes to delude themselves quite a bit.
The deluded ones are on the left side of the aisle. It was the independent/libertarian voters who gave them their majority in the congress 5 years ago and now we're taking it back. Somehow they can't seem to get it into their heads that the middle of the aisle has been irritable about government spending for years, the repubs learned the lesson but dems still think this is about something else entirely. What they think it is I don't know.
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freetoken Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:38:12am |
re: #322 NJDhockeyfan
Sorry, but the claims in the link are just wrong. That LA racist/counter-racist protest not only found its way into many US media outlets, but it was reported in many international outlets.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:38:15am |
re: #328 darthstar
The "chicken" has been "breaded" and fried. So I guess you could say there is bread, but I will say that KFC does make me reconsider going back to being a vegetarian when I consider the food they serve.
Or, you could just not eat there.:)
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pingjockey Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:38:16am |
re: #328 darthstar
I really like their cole slaw, chicken we usually do on the bar b q ourselves.
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laZardo Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:38:25am |
re: #311 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You seen the new Old Spice commercials with Terry Crews? That's HARDCOAR.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:38:35am |
re: #328 darthstar
The "chicken" has been "breaded" and fried. So I guess you could say there is bread, but I will say that KFC does make me reconsider going back to being a vegetarian when I consider the food they serve.
PETA protests fairly often at our local KFC. I may see them at lunchtime today.
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reidr Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:38:47am |
re: #136 albusteve
it's a Tex Mex joint in ABQ, perv
I wonder how they'd feel about being described as "tex mex"! It's New Mexican food, though that might not mean much to a non-New Mexican, so I can see why you'd use the other term....
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:39:52am |
re: #331 freetoken
Sorry, but the claims in the link are just wrong. That LA racist/counter-racist protest not only found its way into many US media outlets, but it was reported in many international outlets.
That website was the first I heard of it. Maybe your local news was all over it but I haven't seen anything about it at all.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:40:01am |
re: #327 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Sandwich only has 540 calories... Yeah... I thought it'd be more.
32 grams of fat and 1380 sodium...Ain't a health food, that's fer sher...
OH!
Yes, I forgot the fat content. "Man-food" is loaded with fat.
The Roi makes very tasty meals, but I can have maybe 2 bites of what he cooks and I've had my maximum calorie intake for the entire day.
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pingjockey Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:40:03am |
re: #331 freetoken
Good, because I did see it in our local paper, but missed it on any cable news. Could've been the weather here in eastern WA, very nice, got a ton of yard work done and the better half got the pool up and running.
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Daniel Ballard Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:41:59am |
re: #331 freetoken
In an ironic twist many reported it was the white supremacists that needed protection from the counter protesters. One of them I heard on news radio went so far as to thank LAPD.
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:43:31am |
They are now stepping up their lobbying efforts to push for the implementation of a child marriage ban.
But that may prove a daunting challenge since fierce opposition against a ban on child brides still runs high among some religious leaders and conservatives.
Sheik Mohammed Hamzi, an official of the Islamist Yemeni opposition party Islaah and the imam of the Al-Rahman mosque in the Yemeni capital of Sana, is one of those who staunchly opposes a legal ban on child marriage.Although he emphasizes that a woman should not get married before she is physically and mentally ready and that she herself needs to accept the marriage, he believes a law that prohibits child marriage constitutes a rights violation.
“I am against the child marriage law because it restrains the freedom of others. When a certain age [for marriage] is set, it violates the rights of others. For example, imagine a young man of 13 or 14 years of age who wants to have sex. … This is a violation of his rights,” Sheik Hamzi told The Times in an interview at his Sana home last week.
SNIP
Hey, you fucking moron. It's not teen boys who are being married to middle-aged women.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:43:37am |
re: #333 pingjockey
I really like their cole slaw, chicken we usually do on the bar b q ourselves.
bleh. coleslaw. cabbage + mayonnaise makes the "double down" healthy by comparison...
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pingjockey Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:44:07am |
re: #340 Rightwingconspirator
That usually seems to be the case. We used to have a bunch of those nuts over in Hayden Lake Idaho and anytime they wanted to protest they were outnumbered 10 or more to one. Heh. IIRC, the SPLC managed to get them busted on a RICO charge and had al their property confiscated.
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Daniel Ballard Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:44:22am |
re: #338 reine.de.tout
He has a job that requires hard labor right? I notice that those who work in the severe cold or work physically hard can pound down 1500-1800 calories per meal and not gain. At least until middle age or the cushy promotion.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:44:26am |
re: #338 reine.de.tout
OH!
Yes, I forgot the fat content. "Man-food" is loaded with fat.The Roi makes very tasty meals, but I can have maybe 2 bites of what he cooks and I've had my maximum calorie intake for the entire day.
gotta feed the Machine!
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:45:00am |
re: #309 Locker
I never, ever thought, saw or heard a single liberal call themselves a liberal-tarian and I never thought, saw or heard a single liberal express the thought that libertarians were on our side against Bush... at all.
You need to get with the playbook.
From Kos in 2006:
I am a libertarian Dem
[Link: www.dailykos.com...]
Reasons piece calling the rapprochement "dead" in 2009:
[Link: reason.com...]
and MotherJones in april hoping it's not dead:
The Great Liberaltarian Alliance
[Link: motherjones.com...]
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Daniel Ballard Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:45:24am |
re: #343 pingjockey
Really? That's pretty smart. Hard to pull off too.
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:46:39am |
re: #321 wlewisiii
On some issues regarding rights, liberty & the Constitution, Libertarians could be "the enemy of my enemy". On other issues, though, they remain simply "the enemy". I think you're trying to read too much into American pragmatism.
William
I think that's what I said. When there's a repub in charge they want to reach out, when there's a dem in office we're the enemy.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:46:56am |
re: #346 pingjockey
Slawist!
admitted. i am highly bigoted against cabbage in all its forms...it's tolerable in soup...but slather mayo on it and you make me want to tattoo myself with images of charred meat...
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pingjockey Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:47:08am |
re: #348 Rightwingconspirator
They had a compound where they'd burn crosses and such and it was all confiscated. I assume it was a RICO charge, because those can cut a wide swath, but don't know for sure. Guess I must do some research!
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:47:41am |
The explosion in Boharh Bazaar slightly damaged a parked car and two shops, an AFP reporter at the scene said, while local television stations showed footage of school text books scattered outside the gates of the building.
“It was an IED (improvised explosive device) planted near a shop. It was a timed device,” senior police official Mohammad Karim Khan told AFP. “One child was killed and 10 others were wounded. Schoolchildren were the target.”
SNIP
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pingjockey Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:48:02am |
re: #350 Aceofwhat?
What about sauerkraut? Keilbasa and kraut, yum!
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:48:15am |
re: #344 Rightwingconspirator
He has a job that requires hard labor right? I notice that those who work in the severe cold or work physically hard can pound down 1500-1800 calories per meal and not gain. At least until middle age or the cushy promotion.
No, he works in a nice climate-controlled lab, no hard labor whatsoever.
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darthstar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:48:51am |
re: #350 Aceofwhat?
admitted. i am highly bigoted against cabbage in all its forms...it's tolerable in soup...but slather mayo on it and you make me want to tattoo myself with images of charred meat...
Mayo is some scary shit. Even though I know it's only eggs & oil blended together, it grosses me out when I have to eat it.
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pingjockey Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:49:09am |
re: #352 MandyManners
But, but, I thought islamists were fighting for the children? /////
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:49:09am |
re: #344 Rightwingconspirator
He has a job that requires hard labor right? I notice that those who work in the severe cold or work physically hard can pound down 1500-1800 calories per meal and not gain. At least until middle age or the cushy promotion.
RWC - this is the job.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:50:02am |
re: #355 darthstar
Mayo is some scary shit. Even though I know it's only eggs & oil blended together, it grosses me out when I have to eat it.
Actually, it's egg yokes and oil. To make it sound really bad.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:50:03am |
re: #353 pingjockey
What about sauerkraut? Keilbasa and kraut, yum!
hate it. pass the Keilbasa, hold the kraut.
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:51:25am |
Group: White House delaying 'Don't Ask' repeal
[Link: www.politico.com...]
A group lobbying for the repeal of the ban on gays serving openly in the military is "disturbed" by word that the White House is quietly working to postpone a vote on repeal until after the midterm elections.
What is up with the Obama approach to gays in this country? He keeps going back and forth on their issues. One day he'll offer a treat, the next day they get the stick.
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pingjockey Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:51:50am |
re: #359 Aceofwhat?
Heh. Okay. You probably run screaming from Kim Chee then. Hot, pickled Korean cabbage.
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Daniel Ballard Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:52:00am |
re: #354 reine.de.tout
Well I sure guessed wrong that time. Hahaha it's good to be among friends when I get one wrong.
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darthstar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:52:07am |
re: #358 Cannadian Club Akbar
Actually, it's egg yokes and oil. To make it sound really bad.
You gotta problem with whites?
/
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:52:26am |
re: #355 darthstar
Mayo is some scary shit. Even though I know it's only eggs & oil blended together, it grosses me out when I have to eat it.
Somebody forces you to eat mayonnaise?
I hate eggs, won't touch them.
But I love mayo.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:53:03am |
re: #355 darthstar
Mayo is some scary shit. Even though I know it's only eggs & oil blended together, it grosses me out when I have to eat it.
yeah, it can touch some things up in small amounts (i like to add a smidgen of mayo and mustard to tuna for a healthy snack) but any dish which features it as a primary ingredient makes me wince. it's just...what's the word...clumsy.
if i'm going to suck down that many calories, give me a béarnaise sauce on a filet or something...it should be worth it!
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laZardo Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:53:06am |
re: #360 RogueOne
Group: White House delaying 'Don't Ask' repeal
[Link: www.politico.com...]
What is up with the Obama approach to gays in this country? He keeps going back and forth on their issues. One day he'll offer a treat, the next day they get the stick.
It's either S or M. Can't have it both ends.
/
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:53:34am |
re: #361 pingjockey
Heh. Okay. You probably run screaming from Kim Chee then. Hot, pickled Korean cabbage.
yep. sounds wrong on many different fronts.
pass the raw fish...hold the cabbage!
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pingjockey Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:54:06am |
re: #360 RogueOne
The admin may be getting mixed messages from the Pentagon. The generals and admirals may be for lefting the don't ask, don't tell and the troops maybe against it. Then again, I retired in '97 so I'm not up on what the troops think about it.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:54:24am |
re: #365 Aceofwhat?
yeah, it can touch some things up in small amounts (i like to add a smidgen of mayo and mustard to tuna for a healthy snack) but any dish which features it as a primary ingredient makes me wince. it's just...what's the word...clumsy.
if i'm going to suck down that many calories, give me a béarnaise sauce on a filet or something...it should be worth it!
Bearnaise sauce. Egg yokes, butter, tarragon. Heh.
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darthstar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:55:17am |
re: #360 RogueOne
Group: White House delaying 'Don't Ask' repeal
[Link: www.politico.com...]
What is up with the Obama approach to gays in this country? He keeps going back and forth on their issues. One day he'll offer a treat, the next day they get the stick.
This is fear and rumor mongering designed to make a big deal out of the vote and stir some coals to get this issue back in the headlines by having President Obama's supporters on TV angry at him. It ain't gonna work.
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Daniel Ballard Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:55:21am |
re: #357 reine.de.tout
Interesting job!
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pingjockey Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:55:35am |
I really hope the Debil has a special place for that creature who bombed OKC.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:55:57am |
re: #369 Cannadian Club Akbar
Bearnaise sauce. Egg yokes, butter, tarragon. Heh.
i know. God bless the French...they can't win a war, but give them a few solid staples and they'll melt food in your mouth.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:56:15am |
A great story:
Okla. bombing victims' children build new lives
I cut out the photo of the fireman holding that young child, Baylee, and kept it by my desk for years. My daughter was the same age as that little girl, and that photo touched me in a way I can't explain, especially when I found out Baylee was killed in that attack. It still brings tears to my eyes.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:56:35am |
re: #373 pingjockey
I really hope the Debil has a special place for that creature who bombed OKC.
I'm sure Stan is giving him extra attention today.
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:56:49am |
re: #368 pingjockey
The admin may be getting mixed messages from the Pentagon. The generals and admirals may be for lefting the don't ask, don't tell and the troops maybe against it. Then again, I retired in '97 so I'm not up on what the troops think about it.
I was just talking with some military friends about the differences in opinions since Clinton said he would repeal the ban in '92. Attitudes have made a pretty remarkable change in what is relatively a short time frame. In '92 there were gay bars burned down around a few military bases, now no one cares anymore. Good for us.
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:57:12am |
But before they could blow up their target, a luxury hotel in Lahore where they believed Americans would be staying, the two were arrested and are now in jail -- Baseer unrepentant about having plotted to send a boy to his death, and the boy saying he never knew what was in store for him.
The story that unfolded offers a rare insight into the world of a Pakistani militant, from his education at hard-line Islamic schools, through his professed participation in an attack on a U.S. patrol in Afghanistan, up to his arrest by Pakistani police along with the boy, Mohi-ud-Din.
SNIP
"Through my studies, I became aware that this is the time for jihad and fighting the infidels, and I saw that a jihad was going on in Afghanistan," said Basser, a thin man speaking just louder than a whisper. "I looked for a way to get there."
SNIP
Baseeer gave only a rough outline of the plan: He and others were to hurl the grenades around the lobby or entrance gate of the hotel, and then Mohid-ud-Din was to run in and detonate his explosive belt.
Did he feel any guilt about what lay in store for his traveling companion? No, he said. "I was feeling good because he was going to be used against Americans."
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pingjockey Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:57:15am |
re: #376 Cannadian Club Akbar
That is a nice thought. Son of bitch he was.
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:57:39am |
re: #356 pingjockey
But, but, I thought islamists were fighting for the children? ///
I got sand in my shorts this morning.
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Locker Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:57:45am |
Right-wing radio host calls tea parties ‘the Sarah Palin movement’, gets booed off stage
The tea parties are all about expressing American freedom and coming together to celebrate and protect God-given liberties. This, of course, is why anyone who disagrees must be screamed at until silenced.
As right-wing radio host Matt Walsh learned recently, if you challenge mob mentality, you get the mob itself. In this case, if you trash Sarah Palin in front of her biggest fans, you might just get called an "infiltrator" and booed off stage.
Now that is what I call funny.
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:57:56am |
re: #371 darthstar
This is fear and rumor mongering designed to make a big deal out of the vote and stir some coals to get this issue back in the headlines by having President Obama's supporters on TV angry at him. It ain't gonna work.
How do you figure? There's only one reason they wouldn't want the vote to come up before the mid-terms and it certainly isn't because they're afraid of losing repub/independent votes.
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Obdicut Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:58:33am |
re: #374 Aceofwhat?
i know. God bless the French...they can't win a war, but give them a few solid staples and they'll melt food in your mouth.
The French gave a very good account of themselves in WWI.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 6:59:15am |
re: #381 Locker
Right-wing radio host calls tea parties ‘the Sarah Palin movement’, gets booed off stage
Now that is what I call funny.
Piggyback story.
[Link: newsbusters.org...]
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:00:31am |
re: #384 Obdicut
The French gave a very good account of themselves in WWI.
Oh, it was just a lighthearted comment. You don't live in Belgium without learning to take every opportunity to throw an elbow at the French...
and good morning!
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Locker Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:01:24am |
And what I call sad....
Jack received worldwide attention in recognition in the late 1980s and early 1990s for the publication of his seminal work, The Emperor Wears No Clothes, which has now sold over 600,000 copies — making it the most widely read marijuana law reform title ever published. The book’s tagline, “How hemp can still save the world,” introduced hundreds of thousands of activists to the environmental and industrial uses of cannabis, which in turn relaunched the modern day hemp movement and global hemp industry. While researching his book, Jack unearthed a copy of the long-lost United States Department of Agriculture film, “Hemp for Victory,” which documented the federal government’s previous support for domestic hemp cultivation.
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:01:43am |
If the 24-year-old's harrowing account is not believed, she could face prison for drinking and having sex outside marriage in the strict Muslim state, The Sun said today.
The accused man, 30, has told police she agreed to sleep with him.
But the woman - identified only as Lucy - said the Arab man raped her after driving her into the desert.
The trading company executive said the man insisted on giving her a lift home after a night out drinking with friends at the Dubai Marina.
He then allegedly drove her to the remote area and attacked her, before taking her back to her flat and raping her again on her bed.
SNIP
The source said that if the court found in the man's favour, the woman could face a charge of having unlawful sex which might land her in jail for a year followed by deportation.
SNIP
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:02:07am |
My radio just said the leader of Al Queda in Iraq was killed. No confirmation.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:04:18am |
re: #389 Cannadian Club Akbar
My radio just said the leader of Al Queda in Iraq was killed. No confirmation.
Sketchy report at foxnews.com - nothing yet at cnn.com
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laZardo Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:04:25am |
re: #389 Cannadian Club Akbar
Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki says an intelligence team has killed the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq, Abu Ayyub al-Masri.
Mr Maliki said Abu Omar al-Baghdadi, believed to lead al-Qaeda's local affiliate, the Islamic State of Iraq, had also been killed.
There is no confirmation of the reports and no comment from the US military.
SNIP
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pingjockey Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:05:06am |
re: #389 Cannadian Club Akbar
That would be a good way to start the week.
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:05:35am |
The decision is the latest indication of improving ties between the two countries.
SNIP
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freetoken Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:06:30am |
rollin...rollin...rollin... gently rollin...
We had one yesterday too, a 4.something out in the desert same place as before.
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pingjockey Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:06:39am |
re: #393 MandyManners
Right. Didn't Syria just give the Hezbos some new missles?
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:06:53am |
re: #384 Obdicut
The French gave a very good account of themselves in WWI.
btw...did you see the Daily Show the other week where he went off on Sarkozy?
i nearly had to change my boxers..."seriously, a country that got outflanked from the same direction twice in 25 years? i'll give you a clue...they're coming from Belgium!"
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laZardo Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:07:16am |
All that nuke money has to come from somewhere.
Labor unrest and economic anxiety may not be among the headlines coming out of Iran since the controversial presidential election of June 2009, but they could turn out to be critical factors in the fate of the Islamic Republic. Indeed, the regime is so sensitive about the country's well-being that it has been obfuscating economic statistics — or simply not reporting them.
Every week, unofficial sources of information in Iran (that is, blogs and social media) report labor problems. This week, there was a report about a privately owned industrial-parts company in Isfahan, Iran's third largest city, that has failed to pay 200 of its employees for the past seven months. About 80 angry workers forced their way into a board meeting, compelling company managers to hastily promise an initial payment within days and a settling of all debts by the end of the Iranian year in mid-March — with New Year bonuses as an added sweetener.
SNIP
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:07:44am |
In a message, sent earlier this month, Israel made it clear that it now regards Hezbollah as a division of the Syrian army and that reprisals against Syria will be fast and devastating.
It follows the discovery by Israeli intelligence that Syria has recently supplied long-range ballistic missiles and advanced anti-aircraft systems to Hezbollah.
“We’ll return Syria to the Stone Age by crippling its power stations, ports, fuel storage and every bit of strategic infrastructure if Hezbollah dare to launch ballistic missiles against us,” said an Israeli minister, who who was speaking off-the-record, last week.
SNIP
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:08:15am |
re: #385 Cannadian Club Akbar
Piggyback story.
[Link: newsbusters.org...]
The use of the word "regime" really sends them into a frenzy. They were the ones making a big deal out of it and are they really surprised Limbaugh keeps using that phrase now that he knows how badly it bothers them? For the last couple of weeks that's all I've seen when a piece mentions limbaugh...."regime".
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freetoken Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:08:19am |
Very unusual, long frequency rolling... not even sure it's a quake... maybe the hillside is slipping...
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:08:27am |
re: #395 pingjockey
Right. Didn't Syria just give the Hezbos some new missles?
Scuds if the scuttlebutt is correct.
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pingjockey Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:08:43am |
re: #398 MandyManners
Thank you. I wondered what the Israelis might do.
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:08:48am |
re: #400 freetoken
Very unusual, long frequency rolling... not even sure it's a quake... maybe the hillside is slipping...
RUN!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:09:05am |
re: #400 freetoken
Very unusual, long frequency rolling... not even sure it's a quake... maybe the hillside is slipping...
Are you safe?
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:09:11am |
Poison pens point to anti-Israel hate
The first e-mail comes from a frequent writer, typos and all.
"U try to make 'our' president a pro muslim, when your 'Jewish' nation is the cause of most of our problems. Your PM is nothing more than a terrorist, but u defend him. I told u before, when u were in Israel, stay there." -- Bob De John
The second writer also has grammar and spelling problems and a bellyful of hate. "You and the rest of that jew political group continually licking honey off your nasty tongues, are much more loyal to the country of israel than you are to The United States of America. That is only one reason why most Americans do not like the jew people." -- Joey Dluzak
Here is another voice of darkness. "I so enjoy your rant on Islam and the President. It shows your ignorance and exemplify your dumbfounded fears . . . Cant wait for you to die from old age, maybe cancer, or something worse, like Alzheimer." -- Omar Khalil
The three letters came to me in response to different columns, but the writers share two distinct views. They support President Obama's hard-line policy toward Israel, and they are anti-Semites.
They hear Obama's policy as a license, and even a cue, to spew their hate. I am sharing their rants because letters like theirs are increasing as the president grows more forceful toward Israel.
The connection is disturbing. With American-Israeli relations at a low point, anti-Semitism could be reaching a boiling point.
Yes, some writers support Obama's stance in legitimate ways. They show that there is room for honest disagreement and that criticism of Israel, whether from the president or other Americans, does not have to be anti-Semitic.
But most of the critical reaction I get when I fault Obama's policies is anti-Semitic. Some of it is violent in tone, wishing me and my family death and suggesting the world would be a better place if Hitler had succeeded.
Damn teabaggers!
///
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:09:16am |
re: #400 freetoken
Very unusual, long frequency rolling... not even sure it's a quake... maybe the hillside is slipping...
weird...
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:09:17am |
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:09:34am |
re: #400 freetoken
Very unusual, long frequency rolling... not even sure it's a quake... maybe the hillside is slipping...
Someone in your neighborhood is having sex outside of marriage. They're going to hell and taking the whole neighborhood with them.
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pingjockey Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:09:37am |
re: #401 MandyManners
That isn't good. Those damn things, depending on the type have a 400 kilometer range.
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:11:46am |
The remarks by Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, were his strongest yet in support of a strategy that both the Pentagon and the Obama Administration still regard as a last resort and possibly a recipe for a regional war.
They came as President Ahmadinejad taunted the US with a potent display of missile technology, while a leaked top-secret memo by Robert Gates, the US Defence Secretary, forced the White House to insist that it was preparing for all contingencies.
Mr Ahmadinejad used Iran’s annual army day parade to show off missiles capable of hitting US and Israeli targets throughout the Middle East and to demand a US military withdrawal from the region. As he did so, two senior White House officials issued strong responses to the disclosure that Mr Gates had written a classified assessment of weaknesses in the Administration’s plans for what to do if Iran failed to halt its nuclear weapons programme.
The war of words in Washington may reflect a power struggle between an Administration still committed to a diplomatic approach to Iran and an increasingly impatient Pentagon.
SNIP
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:14:50am |
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:15:29am |
NATO and Afghan forces are stepping up operations to push Taliban fighters out of the city, which was the Islamist movement's headquarters during the years it ruled most of Afghanistan. The goal is to bolster the capability of the local government so that it can keep the Taliban from coming back.
The Taliban commander, who uses the pseudonym Mubeen, told The Associated Press that if military pressure on the insurgents becomes too great "we will just leave and come back after" the foreign forces leave.
SNIP
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:15:52am |
I guess this poll will allow The Nation and the NYT's to conclude that 75% of the population in this country are one step away from being labelled domestic terrorists:
Distrust, Discontent, Anger and Partisan Rancor
[Link: people-press.org...]
Just 22% say they can trust the government in Washington almost always or most of the time, among the lowest measures in half a century. About the same percentage (19%) says they are “basically content” with the federal government, which is largely unchanged from 2006 and 2007, but lower than a decade ago.
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freetoken Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:18:32am |
re: #403 MandyManners
re: #404 Cannadian Club Akbar
re: #406 Aceofwhat?
Well, it's not that weird here in SoCal. Like so many people I live here I live on a hillside, albeit a very gentle hillside. Maybe it was just some local settling somewhere in the area, or some sort of infrasonic source from a heavy object moving. The whole building seemed to vibrate at around 1Hz.
Or perhaps it was... HAARP!
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darthstar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:19:03am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:19:55am |
re: #416 freetoken
re: #404 Cannadian Club Akbar
re: #406 Aceofwhat?
Well, it's not that weird here in SoCal. Like so many people I live here I live on a hillside, albeit a very gentle hillside. Maybe it was just some local settling somewhere in the area, or some sort of infrasonic source from a heavy object moving. The whole building seemed to vibrate at around 1Hz.
Or perhaps it was... HAARP!
CALL JESSE VENTURA!!! YOUR STORY MUST BE TOLD!!
/
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:20:19am |
re: #414 MandyManners
The Taliban commander, who uses the pseudonym Mubeen, told The Associated Press that if military pressure on the insurgents becomes too great "we will just leave and come back after" the foreign forces leave.
Mr Gates made the remarks during a visit to a dust-blown training ground in Kabul province where Afghan soldiers come for weeks of training under U.S. and British instruction. British Brigadier Simon Levy told Gates that if Nato countries contribute more trainers, the project to expand the Afghan army will keep pace.
But he said any withdrawal "would have to be conditions-based."
SNIP
Mubeen and his buddies will make sure the conditions are right.
| 420 |
Jadespring Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:20:46am |
Morning Lizards. How is everyone on this fine spring day?
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:21:03am |
re: #416 freetoken
re: #404 Cannadian Club Akbar
re: #406 Aceofwhat?
Well, it's not that weird here in SoCal. Like so many people I live here I live on a hillside, albeit a very gentle hillside. Maybe it was just some local settling somewhere in the area, or some sort of infrasonic source from a heavy object moving. The whole building seemed to vibrate at around 1Hz.
Or perhaps it was... HAARP!
How's the tin hat going?!
| 422 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:21:49am |
Just hurt my back. Bowling on the Wii.
Is that just bloody pitiful or what?
| 423 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:22:16am |
| 425 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:22:37am |
re: #422 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Just hurt my back. Bowling on the Wii.
Is that what the kids are calling it these days?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:23:00am |
re: #422 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Just hurt my back. Bowling on the Wii.
Is that just bloody pitiful or what?
Well, imaginary bowling balls are heavy.
//
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:23:25am |
re: #420 Jadespring
Morning Lizards. How is everyone on this fine spring day?
fantastic. work is slow, i'm nibbling on sunflower seeds at my desk (not very professional, i know, but no one's paying attention right now) and glad that the earth didn't swallow Freetoken today...
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:23:57am |
re: #422 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Just hurt my back. Bowling on the Wii.
Is that just bloody pitiful or what?
That wand is heavy.
| 429 |
MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:24:15am |
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:24:54am |
re: #422 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Just hurt my back. Bowling on the Wii.
Is that just bloody pitiful or what?
you stand up to bowl on the Wii? i can bowl a 250 sitting down...
| 431 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:25:06am |
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compound idaho Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:25:20am |
re: #406 Aceofwhat?
weird...
re: #416 freetoken
re: #404 Cannadian Club Akbar
re: #406 Aceofwhat?
Well, it's not that weird here in SoCal. Like so many people I live here I live on a hillside, albeit a very gentle hillside. Maybe it was just some local settling somewhere in the area, or some sort of infrasonic source from a heavy object moving. The whole building seemed to vibrate at around 1Hz.
Or perhaps it was... HAARP!
The "sharpness" of the shaking is largely related to the distance from the epicenter. High frequencies attenuate more quickly than low frequency. Or you are about to slide into the Pacific.
| 433 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:25:40am |
re: #430 Aceofwhat?
I want to become skinny bastard vegetarian... can't do it by bowling from a recliner.
| 434 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:26:08am |
re: #433 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I want to become skinny bastard vegetarian... can't do it by bowling from a recliner.
With pie.
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darthstar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:26:37am |
re: #422 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Just hurt my back. Bowling on the Wii.
Is that just bloody pitiful or what?
You do know that the proper way to do any Wii activity is in a recliner with your arm hanging over the side of the chair. The controller just needs a flick of the wrist to respond, not a full body movement. Though standing up and making the full body movement is more fun.
At least you didn't send the remote through the tv.
| 436 |
Jadespring Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:27:17am |
re: #427 Aceofwhat?
fantastic. work is slow, i'm nibbling on sunflower seeds at my desk (not very professional, i know, but no one's paying attention right now) and glad that the earth didn't swallow Freetoken today...
Great. Glad about Freetoken too. I'm planting sunflower seeds today. I'm gonna attempt to make a sunflower hedge along one of the fences.
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darthstar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:27:21am |
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:28:36am |
re: #436 Jadespring
Great. Glad about Freetoken too. I'm planting sunflower seeds today. I'm gonna attempt to make a sunflower hedge along one of the fences.
more clothes for the science project!!!
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Cato the Elder Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:29:46am |
re: #325 freetoken
That was a small group of bloggers/thinkers who tried that, but have pretty much lamented that it hasn't worked. E.g., Brink Lindsey and Will Wilkinson, both associated with Cato.
Watch it.
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Jadespring Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:30:07am |
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Cato the Elder Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:30:58am |
re: #308 RogueOne
They, by "they" I mean dems, tried to bring us into their fold by calling themselves "liberal-tarians". They went out of their way to be nice because we had a common enemy, they were just confused about all the reasons libertarians were upset with Bush.
Perchance because libertarians were upset about Bush for all (or mostly) the wrong reasons?
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:31:35am |
“All the mortar rounds missed the airport but landed in civilian areas,” Ali Muse, coordinator of ambulance services, told Reuters. He said five of the six people killed died in the bustling Bakara market from where al Shabaab often launches its attacks. Four of them were women.
SNIP
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Cato the Elder Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:32:49am |
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:33:26am |
re: #441 Cato the Elder
Perchance because libertarians were upset about Bush for all (or mostly) the wrong reasons?
Not quite. What I meant was they neglected to consider libertarians wouldn't like out-of-control spending regardless of what party was in control of the pocketbook.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:35:25am |
re: #443 Cato the Elder
Hard to build a nuke with bombs bursting in air, huh.
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:36:07am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:36:34am |
I let the dog go outside... it is one of the most beautiful days I have ever seen. Can't get him to come back inside.
He's a little inside dog, but boy, does he love the outside....
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darthstar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:37:13am |
re: #441 Cato the Elder
Perchance because libertarians were upset about Bush for all (or mostly) the wrong reasons?
I'm just sad we weren't able to trap Rogue into the fold with our sinister word-play. We were close, too..."liberal-tarian"...one small syllable away from destroying libertarians forever! But no, Fate had other plans for the Democratic party...
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Cato the Elder Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:37:37am |
re: #444 RogueOne
Not quite. What I meant was they neglected to consider libertarians wouldn't like out-of-control spending regardless of what party was in control of the pocketbook.
This is the part where you can educate me.
How, aside from the Gold Standard - a pipe dream from a pipe with funny tobacco in it - do libertarians propose to stop "out of control spending"?
Is it a plan like the one from Copenhagen for fixing AGW? You know:
1. Plan to save the world
2. Hold a meeting
3. Table any further action pending ongoing studies
4. [repeat as needed]
.
.
.
X. World saved!
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:38:07am |
re: #445 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Hard to build a nuke with bombs bursting in air, huh.
centrifuges are fragile, i hear...i've let the DoD know that i'm willing to serve my country by making the earth move in the ME whenever they're ready.../
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:38:10am |
Speaking of spending/rate controls, it was nice to see Sen. Schumer so upset about "runaway and out-of-control" fees. Now if he would just get a little worked up when it's the feds doing the gouging and spending....
[Link: thehill.com...]
"In the last week we have gained tremendous momentum in our effort to keep carry-on bags free," Schumer said. "We have begun to put the brakes on runaway and out-of-control airline fees."I am pleased some of the major carriers have responded to our efforts and have agreed not to charge for something that has always been free," added the senator, who is leading the charge to introduce legislation that would outlaw the practice.
It's nice that they have so much time to spend on issues that are none of their damn business.
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:38:31am |
Although the number of Muslim women affected by these laws is tiny, this shift away from the generally tolerant attitudes of the past is an indicator of the mounting resentment the local population is feeling about the millions of Muslims in their midst. Last year, a YouTube video called “Muslim Demographics” was viewed by over eleven million people. The video contrasts low European birth rates with the rapid growth of European Muslims, and then indulges in demographic fantasy by extrapolating concocted figures to conjure up a scenario in which locals in many cities would be outnumbered by Muslims.
SNIP
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:40:21am |
re: #451 RogueOne
The market will fix it... if all the fees stick... the market would bear it... if not? the fees will go away.
Schumer? Go help sell some "stemware" for your state.
Sheesh.
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Cato the Elder Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:40:38am |
re: #451 RogueOne
Speaking of spending/rate controls, it was nice to see Sen. Schumer so upset about "runaway and out-of-control" fees. Now if he would just get a little worked up when it's the feds doing the gouging and spending...
[Link: thehill.com...]
It's nice that they have so much time to spend on issues that are none of their damn business.
According to you guys, nothing is any of the Senate's damn business except maybe the military.
Good luck with that.
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:41:20am |
An influx of immigrants has prompted the government to freeze applications from Afghans and Sri Lankans and to reopen the Curtin Air Base, which was shut down 2002 following riots, to accommodate them.
The United Nations refugee agency UNHCR said these measures were likely to have a negative impact on the health and well being of asylum-seekers, particularly those who had already endured torture or trauma.
"The combination of mandatory detention, suspension of asylum claims and the geographical isolation of detention facilities such as Curtin Air Force Base in Western Australia -- all without any effective judicial oversight -- is a deeply troubling set of factors," regional representative Richard Towle said.
Australia this month announced it would suspend asylum claims from Afghanistan for six months and from Sri Lanka for three months as it reassesses the improving security situations in the war-weary countries.
SNIP
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:42:06am |
re: #454 Cato the Elder
I personally think less is the Senate's business than more. But you might be right... I might be a bit reactionary when they open their big mouths.
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Cato the Elder Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:42:47am |
re: #456 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I personally think less is the Senate's business than more. But you might be right... I might be a bit reactionary when they open their big mouths.
Shut down the Federal Government! Right now! It's our only hope!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:43:21am |
If I have to open my own door, heads will roll!!!
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:43:24am |
re: #457 Cato the Elder
Like I said, I might be getting a little too reactionary.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:44:11am |
re: #458 Cannadian Club Akbar
NYC is a whole nuther country.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:44:15am |
re: #454 Cato the Elder
According to you guys, nothing is any of the Senate's damn business except maybe the military.
Good luck with that.
The Copenhagen post of yours was hilarious. At the same time, i'm dying for an explanation about why bag fees are anything but a complete waste of time for the Congress to consider. When i book a flight, i do ticket+bag math and choose the best option for me. If bag prices help keep certain ticket prices down, why the hell should Congress care?
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:44:32am |
re: #449 Cato the Elder
This is the part where you can educate me.
How, aside from the Gold Standard - a pipe dream from a pipe with funny tobacco in it - do libertarians propose to stop "out of control spending"?
Is it a plan like the one from Copenhagen for fixing AGW? You know:
1. Plan to save the world
2. Hold a meeting
3. Table any further action pending ongoing studies
4. [repeat as needed]
.
.
.
X. World saved!
The libertarian model is pretty easy:
1. Everyone mind your own damn business
2. Stop spending money you don't have
3. Profit!
you're right about the gold standard idea being an embarrassment. Especially since it's obvious we should be basing our currency on something with actual value.....like the yuan or corn.
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compound idaho Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:44:47am |
re: #459 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Like I said, I might be getting a little too reactionary.
You are not.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:45:08am |
re: #462 RogueOne
The libertarian model is pretty easy:
1. Everyone mind your own damn business
2. Stop spending money you don't have
3. Profit!you're right about the gold standard idea being an embarrassment. Especially since it's obvious we should be basing our currency on something with actual value...like the yuan or corn.
SEEDS!!!
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:45:09am |
re: #459 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Like I said, I might be getting a little too reactionary.
Since no one has seen fit to explain, exactly, why airline baggage fees should be the Senate's business, I'm with you on this one.
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Cato the Elder Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:46:52am |
re: #458 Cannadian Club Akbar
If I have to open my own door, heads will roll!!!
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
Yeah.
Many buildings have also posted sign-up sheets for residents to volunteer to watch the front doors, clean hallways and take out garbage, though the forms in the lobbies of a handful of Upper East Side buildings remained mostly blank on Sunday afternoon.
Rich people taking out their own garbage? It's stealth socialism, I tells ya!
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:48:36am |
The nine women were surrounded following their usual Mass at a Havana church, and after a three-hour standoff some were forced into a bus and driven away, said group member Alejandrina García.
``They did not let us march. They did not let us take one step forward or backward,'' added García. ``I was picked up by the arms and legs and forced into the bus.''
The second blockage of a march in as many weeks indicated the government has decided to put a stop to the women's Sunday protests, which are covered by foreign journalists in Havana and have drawn growing international backing and recognition.
The Ladies in White, female relatives of dissidents jailed since 2003, have won several human-rights prizes for their peaceful protests demanding the release of their relatives and all other political prisoners.
SNIP
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DaddyG Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:48:46am |
re: #387 Locker After his memorial service he was cremated- leading to hundreds of mourners getting the munchies and cleaning out a neary mini-mart of all snack foods. //
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ryannon Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:49:07am |
re: #287 NJDhockeyfan
Extramarital sex fuels earthquakes, warns Iran cleric
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:49:18am |
re: #466 Cato the Elder
Rich people taking out their own garbage? It's stealth socialism, I tells ya!
That's why people have kids. Garbage, dishes, fetching beers...
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:49:46am |
re: #457 Cato the Elder
Shut down the Federal Government! Right now! It's our only hope!
I wouldn't go quite that far but we've had 200 years of federal "mission creep" enabled by both the USSC and the voting public. There isn't anyway to stop it but someone needs to at least apply the brakes.
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Cato the Elder Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:49:59am |
re: #462 RogueOne
The libertarian model is pretty easy:
1. Everyone mind your own damn business [or what? shotguns?]
2. Stop spending money you don't have [OK, let's start with the Pentagon]
3. Profit! [but only for those who own a business, right? we must all be Howard Roark!]you're right about the gold standard idea being an embarrassment. Especially since it's obvious we should be basing our currency on something with actual value...like the yuan or corn.
What about corn liquor?
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compound idaho Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:50:01am |
re: #465 reine.de.tout
Since no one has seen fit to explain, exactly, why airline baggage fees should be the Senate's business, I'm with you on this one.
I think this is an opportunity for FedEx or UPS. Have your bags picked up at your door and delivered to your hotel room.
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lawhawk Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:50:47am |
re: #454 Cato the Elder
Schumer represents NYC, and therefore it is in his interest to make sure that whatever regulatory scheme is put in place doesn't so drastically affect Wall Street that it sends business elsewhere. In other words, he's going to do what's necessary to protect the biggest employers in the state and the state's (and region's) biggest cash cow.
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lawhawk Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:51:09am |
re: #469 ryannon
So, there's a whole lot of shakin' going on ... /in bed
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:52:07am |
re: #458 Cannadian Club Akbar
If I have to open my own door, heads will roll!!!
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
Really now:
“If there is a positive thing to be pulled out of this, it’s that it is an opportunity to get to know your neighbors,” she said, “and to come together to combat a little bit of adversity, because this is not the end of the world, though it may appear that way if the strike goes on.”
OK, I don't live there so I admit I have no clue how big of a problem this really creates for folks.
But how can life without a doorman even come close to approaching something that "appears" to be the end of the world?
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:52:56am |
re: #472 Cato the Elder
What about corn liquor?
with the federal subsidies into ethanol production corn is almost scarce around here, before the fields are planted in central Indiana most of the corn is already sold to ethanol production plants.
Corn liquor is too expensive anymore for the rednecks to drink, we've switched to a potato based liquor economy.
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darthstar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:53:50am |
re: #382 RogueOne
How do you figure? There's only one reason they wouldn't want the vote to come up before the mid-terms and it certainly isn't because they're afraid of losing repub/independent votes.
Republican votes are secure, regardless of what happens. The GOP is betting that actual independents are as homophobic as they are, so they're leaking rumors that Democrats are afraid of losing the homophobe vote, but actual independents aren't likely to get their panties in a twist over this issue.
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lawhawk Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:53:56am |
re: #465 reine.de.tout
Regulating commerce... but in this instance, the airlines are getting around the notion of raising fares (which drives traffic on their websites via search engines programmed to look at fares first). The added fees can tack on serious money to the cost of a ticket, but not factored into the price of the ticket when purchased.
Airlines now add baggage fees - sometimes $50+ on a single checked bag, yet the airlines are reluctant to increase the price of a given ticket because it might send people to other airlines.
I'd rather see the airlines consolidate the fees into the price rather than nickel/dime/$50 fee to make up their profit center...
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DaddyG Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:53:59am |
re: #473 compound idaho
I think this is an opportunity for FedEx or UPS. Have your bags picked up at your door and delivered to your hotel room.
This is what will stop fees, not legislation:
Capitalism!
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compound idaho Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:54:33am |
re: #477 RogueOne
with the federal subsidies into ethanol production corn is almost scarce around here, before the fields are planted in central Indiana most of the corn is already sold to ethanol production plants.
Corn liquor is too expensive anymore for the rednecks to drink, we've switched to a potato based liquor economy.
Be sure to buy Idaho.
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:55:32am |
Azuaje was inspired by Chávez's promise to sweep away a history of graft and patronage which had stunted an oil-driven economy. "I believed in the process of reform," said Azuaje.
Not anymore. The baby-faced protege, once a rising star in the ruling party, has now become the Chávez family's most outspoken foe. "They turned out to be the most corrupt ever. They betrayed us."
Azuaje has blown the whistle on what he claims is a kleptocratic dynasty in Barinas where farms, businesses, banks and government contracts have been pocketed by the president's parents and five brothers.
SNIP
Chávez's father ruled as governor for a decade until handing over to the president's brother, Adán, in an election marred by fraud allegations. Other brothers are also thriving: Aníbal is mayor of nearby Sabaneta; Adelis is a top banker at Banco Sofitasa, which enjoys government contracts; Argenis wields enormous clout as a political fixer; Narciso is reportedly planning his own election run.
SNIP
Azuaje (left), the Barinas firebrand, has had a torrid time since delivering to the national assembly a package of pictures, deeds and documents which he said proved the Chávez family amassed an illicit $20m fortune. The government-controlled assembly dismissed the claims after a brief inquiry.
The 33-year-old legislator said he then reaped a whirlwind: shots fired at his home; a brother killed; his mother and wife fired from state jobs. The latest alleged reprisal: a criminal charge that he abused and struck a policewoman.
The national assembly recently lifted Azuaje's immunity as a lawmaker, an unusual step, after which he was handcuffed and briefly detained. The supreme court also barred him from publicly discussing the charges. It is unclear if he will be able to run in September's election. "This is about revenge, clear as day. Chávez has not forgiven me for accusing his family," he said.
SNIP
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:55:52am |
re: #474 lawhawk
Schumer represents NYC, and therefore it is in his interest to make sure that whatever regulatory scheme is put in place doesn't so drastically affect Wall Street that it sends business elsewhere. In other words, he's going to do what's necessary to protect the biggest employers in the state and the state's (and region's) biggest cash cow.
Just as he wants to protect Steuben glass:
Also in that story:
As The Post first reported last month, SDI shut out upstate's Steuben Glass, which has made government glassware since the Truman administration.
. . .
Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY) met with State officials to grill them about the contract last month, shortly after The Post's report, and said afterward that the department would reopen the contract for bidding.
What we have here is State Dept staff deciding for whatever reason that the contract should be a no-bid contract going to a minority-owned firm, and then a NY politician entering the fray after a complaint by the upstate Steuben firm in order to make sure Steuben is taken care of.Politics as usual.
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MrSilverDragon Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:56:47am |
Good morning, folks. Rough weekend, hope yours was ok.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:57:51am |
re: #479 lawhawk
Regulating commerce... but in this instance, the airlines are getting around the notion of raising fares (which drives traffic on their websites via search engines programmed to look at fares first). The added fees can tack on serious money to the cost of a ticket, but not factored into the price of the ticket when purchased.
Airlines now add baggage fees - sometimes $50+ on a single checked bag, yet the airlines are reluctant to increase the price of a given ticket because it might send people to other airlines.
I'd rather see the airlines consolidate the fees into the price rather than nickel/dime/$50 fee to make up their profit center...
Thanks.
Yeah, the baggage was never "free", the cost of it was just rolled up into the price of a ticket, which as you say, the airlines don't want to increase right now.
And I agree - I would much prefer to see the airlines give the customer a true cost of the ticket, to include baggage fees, rather than this nickel-and-dime stuff.
Thanks for your response.
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ryannon Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:58:07am |
On the advice of a message posted by a Lizard yesterday (sorry, I've no memory for names) I watched "Devil's Playground", a documentary on a group of Amish teenagers in Indiana, within the context of contemporary society and the traditional values of their church.. A very sober and moving film which I recommend to those interested in gaining a more intimate understanding of the Amish:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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darthstar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:58:12am |
re: #482 MandyManners
Iran, Syria, Israel, Cuba, and now Venezuela. You're just a shit-storm of happiness today. Might I suggest a new site for mining articles?
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Randall Gross Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:58:37am |
Live coverage of OKC Bombing anniversary memorial
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:58:44am |
The US needs to eliminate its structural deficits and reduce the massive national debt.
Since Americans seem unwilling to accept a lower standard of living or higher taxes, and since American workers are not competitive with foreign slave-workers, there is really only one solution.
No more Mr. Nice Guy - THE EMPIRE MUST STRIKE BACK!
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:59:52am |
re: #479 lawhawk
Regulating commerce... but in this instance, the airlines are getting around the notion of raising fares (which drives traffic on their websites via search engines programmed to look at fares first). The added fees can tack on serious money to the cost of a ticket, but not factored into the price of the ticket when purchased.
Airlines now add baggage fees - sometimes $50+ on a single checked bag, yet the airlines are reluctant to increase the price of a given ticket because it might send people to other airlines.
I'd rather see the airlines consolidate the fees into the price rather than nickel/dime/$50 fee to make up their profit center...
see, i like the variety. i often fly without checking a bag. the bag fee gives a consumer more options, IMHO.
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darthstar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 7:59:58am |
re: #489 Spare O'Lake
The US needs to eliminate its structural deficits and reduce the massive national debt.
Since Americans seem unwilling to accept a lower standard of living or higher taxes, and since American workers are not competitive with foreign slave-workers, there is really only one solution.
No more Mr. Nice Guy - THE EMPIRE MUST STRIKE BACK!
You could just say, "good morning."
Good morning, by the way.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:00:21am |
re: #490 Aceofwhat?
see, i like the variety. i often fly without checking a bag. the bag fee gives a consumer more options, IMHO.
I just avoid the whole thing; I don't fly.
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Randall Gross Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:01:33am |
Al Baghdadi and Al Masri reported dead again by Iraqi PM
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]
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DaddyG Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:01:35am |
re: #484 MrSilverDragon
Good morning, folks. Rough weekend, hope yours was ok.
Sorry to hear that. Hope you are ok now.
I've been getting hints from MommyG to build a raised garden bed - but the kits in the catalogues are horrible expensive. I fixed that problem at the local hardware big box store and purchased 8 corner brakets and several lengths of 2x8 pressure treated wood. After constructing a clever design to fit in the triangle shaped garden fence (it looks like a Stealth fighter from the top) we filled it with mulch from a 3 year old pile of leaves and brush I'd been dumping in the woods. After a good tilling I was a hero and the garden looks great. As a bonus some PVC pipe and nylon thread made a great bean fence. The whole project was under $100 and provided 7x the square footage of one of the store bought kits. For me that is a good weekend.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:02:05am |
My radio has an update. The top 2 Al Queda in Iraq are dead.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:02:18am |
re: #493 Thanos
Oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy!
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:02:19am |
Back on November 4, 2009, George Stephanopolous said on This Week that “Pataki has told at least one major GOP donor in private that he is not interested in becoming a senator at the age of 64 and would rather run for president in 2012.” Interesting. And then earlier this week, Senator John Cornyn gave his take to a reporter for The Hill:
I’ve been talking to him for a year and a half, and I’ve been reading the polls. I think there’s real opportunity there. But he’s decided he’s not running for it. My thought is, of course, he’s rumored to be a potential candidate for president, and I think he’s got his sights set on other offices, maybe including running for president. That’d be my guess.
There are more and more reasons to think that Cornyn and Stephanopolous are right about Pataki. GOP 12 notes that Pataki’s behavior over the last year closely mirrors how a man might act if he were preparing to mount a run for the presidency. Pataki has spent time in both Iowa and New Hampshire. He won’t give a straight answer to the “Are you going to run for President?” question. Perhaps most telling: he is also working out like crazy (the obese need not apply for the presidency these days). And now this: the Des Moines Register reports that Pataki is headed to Iowa to make his case against healthcare reform….
SNIP
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:02:21am |
re: #487 darthstar
Iran, Syria, Israel, Cuba, and now Venezuela. You're just a shit-storm of happiness today. Might I suggest a new site for mining articles?
It's terrible...I even read this morning that somewhere overseas a unicorn fart stank.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:02:25am |
Tea Party Leaders Say Give D.C. Back to Maryland
No thanks, we don't want it.
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:03:48am |
re: #484 MrSilverDragon
Good morning, folks. Rough weekend, hope yours was ok.
Mine was great. I got off the crutches and am now able to wear a flip-flop!
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:04:18am |
re: #478 darthstar
Republican votes are secure, regardless of what happens. The GOP is betting that actual independents are as homophobic as they are, so they're leaking rumors that Democrats are afraid of losing the homophobe vote, but actual independents aren't likely to get their panties in a twist over this issue.
The letter wasn't "leaked", it was given to the polico by Aubrey Sarvis, (executive director of Servicemembers Legal Defense Network) a group pushing to overturn DADT who says:
I am very disturbed by multiple reports from Capitol Hill that your Congressional liaison team is urging some Members of Congress to avoid a vote on repeal this year. The upcoming House and Senate votes will be close, and very frankly, Mr. President, we need your help now.
You're right about independents not caring, and repubs aren't going to cross over and vote dem, so who are they afraid of alienating right before the elections?
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Cato the Elder Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:04:23am |
re: #499 Mad Al-Jaffee
Tea Party Leaders Say Give D.C. Back to Maryland
No thanks, we don't want it.
Seconded. This option has been mooted a hundred times in the past. You couldn't get Maryland to take DC with nuclear howitzers.
Those pussies in Virginia, now, that might be another matter.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:04:26am |
re: #500 MandyManners
Mine was great. I got off the crutches and am now able to wear a flip-flop!
You should wear both. Just sayin'.
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:05:07am |
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DaddyG Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:06:56am |
re: #502 Cato the Elder
Seconded. This option has been mooted a hundred times in the past. You couldn't get Maryland to take DC with nuclear howitzers.
Those pussies in Virginia, now, that might be another matter.
Give global warming a few years more and you won't need to worry about foggy bottom. The Washington Monument can be used as a mooring.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:07:09am |
re: #503 Cannadian Club Akbar
You should wear both. Just sayin'.
I have a feeling it's a good thing that she's not someone who calls a flip-flop a "thong."
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DaddyG Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:07:51am |
re: #500 MandyManners
Mine was great. I got off the crutches and am now able to wear a flip-flop!
How long before the guy whose butt you kicked will heal? /
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ryannon Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:08:08am |
re: #487 darthstar
Iran, Syria, Israel, Cuba, and now Venezuela. You're just a shit-storm of happiness today. Might I suggest a new site for mining articles?
I can work with that idea, you betcha!
SNIP!
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:08:52am |
U.S. District Judge Rodney Sippel said the state cannot refuse to rent the pavilion to the Klan. The Klan official, Frank Ancona, said the state objected to "historical inaccuracies" that the Klan might spread in the park.
Ancona told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that he's not sure if the event, scheduled for Saturday, will be held due to financial considerations. Judge Sippel required the Klan to post a $1,800 bond and obtain $300,000 in liability insurance.
SNIP
Anthony Rothert of the ACLU represented Ancona.
SNIP
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darthstar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:09:13am |
re: #501 RogueOne
You're right about independents not caring, and repubs aren't going to cross over and vote dem, so who are they afraid of alienating right before the elections?
Hm...too many fuckin' blue-dogs in the party, I suppose. But I'm not calling for purifying the Democratic party of its conservatives...we see how that's been working with the GOP and its moderates.
The sad fact is that the two parties we have are so damn close (center-right?) that you can't tell them apart except on a few issues.
Just vote on it. Get DADT replaced with a simple, "gays and everyone else who wants to join the military are welcome." and let the media have their two week circle-jerk of panic about it, and by the middle of May, it will be accepted as part of US history and a complete non-issue by November.
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:09:30am |
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SteveMcG Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:10:20am |
re: #489 Spare O'Lake
The US needs to eliminate its structural deficits and reduce the massive national debt.
Since Americans seem unwilling to accept a lower standard of living or higher taxes, and since American workers are not competitive with foreign slave-workers, there is really only one solution.
No more Mr. Nice Guy - THE EMPIRE MUST STRIKE BACK!
How about "striking out" instead. Here's my plan: Have a new Constitutional Convention. Invite all 50 states to send a delegation. As soon as 49 delegations arrive, lock the doors. The 49 states vote on a new Constitution, identical to the existing one, and declare the new country the "New USA". That way that unfortunate 50th state gets left with all the debts of the original USA. The rest of us will just pick up from here.
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darthstar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:10:51am |
re: #509 ryannon
I can work with that idea, you betcha!
SNIP!
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lawhawk Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:10:54am |
re: #487 darthstar
I know that was tongue in cheek, but I find this site to be quite useful for mining news items.
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avanti Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:11:05am |
Confirmed :
10:38 AM ET
Permalink
Prime Minister: Leader of al Qaeda in Iraq killed
[Updated at 10:38 a.m.] The U.S. military has confirmed that the two most senior leaders of al Qaeda in Iraq were killed in a joint Iraqi-U.S. operation Sunday.
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:11:23am |
re: #500 MandyManners
Mine was great. I got off the crutches and am now able to wear a flip-flop!
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darthstar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:11:49am |
re: #516 lawhawk
I know that was tongue in cheek, but I find this site to be quite useful for mining news items.
Interesting...I'll check it out further a bit later.
Time to head out...back later, everyone.
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ryannon Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:12:20am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:12:23am |
re: #518 Spare O'Lake
If you live in Florida you must know all the lyrics to that song.
/
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DaddyG Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:13:35am |
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Randall Gross Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:13:51am |
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ryannon Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:14:20am |
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Randall Gross Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:15:10am |
re: #524 Thanos
Wahhhooo
US Confirms Al Baghdadi and Al Masri
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Arrrgggh . Here's the real link:
[Link: www.alertnet.org...]
BAGHDAD, April 19 (Reuters) - The U.S. military on Monday confirmed that Iraqi security forces had killed al Qaeda in Iraq's top two leaders."The death of these two terrorists is a potentially devastating blow to al Qaeda in Iraq," U.S. forces in Iraq said in a statement. (Reporting by Michael Christie; editing by Tim Pearce)
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:15:28am |
re: #517 avanti
Confirmed :
10:38 AM ET
Permalink
Prime Minister: Leader of al Qaeda in Iraq killed[Updated at 10:38 a.m.] The U.S. military has confirmed that the two most senior leaders of al Qaeda in Iraq were killed in a joint Iraqi-U.S. operation Sunday.
fantastic. right now there are two dudes thinking "wait...this is NOTHING like i was told it would be..."
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:19:10am |
re: #518 Spare O'Lake
If you blow out your flip flop,
Don't step on a pop-top...[Video]
Perfect song for this weather! Thank you!
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Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:19:59am |
re: #528 MandyManners
I won't comment on how I feel about Jimmy Buffet and his music.
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lawhawk Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:20:59am |
re: #527 Aceofwhat?
Rather surprising that the two were in the same place at the same time. Someone had good intel to get 'em both. al Masri had been subject to numerous other reports over the year of his demise.
Now that he's well and truly dead. Hoorah to the troops involved. One less scourge in the region.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:21:08am |
re: #529 Mad Al-Jaffee
I won't comment on how I feel about Jimmy Buffet and his music.
His restaurant in Key West is average.
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SteveMcG Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:21:43am |
re: #529 Mad Al-Jaffee
I won't comment on how I feel about Jimmy Buffet and his music.
If you can't say something nice about somebody than come talk to me!
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Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:22:44am |
re: #524 Thanos
Wahhhooo
US Confirms Al Baghdadi and Al Masri
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Good news!
| 534 |
Walter L. Newton Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:22:59am |
Via Political Carnival and Crooks & Liars, we learn that Comcast has announced a new venture with RightNetwork, "an independently-owned media company" whose mission is "to entertain, engage, and enlighten Americans who are looking for content that reflects and reinforces their perspective and worldview. RIGHTNETWORK will consistently impact the political and cultural discussions of Americans" (it is set to launch this summer).
[Link: www.politico.com...]
All the more reason we need a Fairness Doctrine... the wingnuts are taking over the media.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:23:44am |
From the mind your own fucking business file..
[Link: www2.hernandotoday.com...]
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Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:24:17am |
Instapundit still clinging to a debunked conspiracy....
JOHN HINDERAKER: “It is deeply ironic that Democrats are trying to sell the idea that Republicans are somehow violent and unAmerican, when in fact, every actual violent incident is perpetrated by liberals, usually union thugs, against Republicans. It happened again in New Orleans following a fundraiser for the Louisiana Republican Party. Governor Bobby Jindal’s chief fundraiser, Allee Bautsch, left the event with her boyfriend, Joe Brown. They were attacked by a gang that reportedly prefaced their assault with racial and political insults. The attack was extraordinarily vicious.”
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:25:24am |
re: #512 darthstar
Hm...too many fuckin' blue-dogs in the party, I suppose. But I'm not calling for purifying the Democratic party of its conservatives...we see how that's been working with the GOP and its moderates.
The sad fact is that the two parties we have are so damn close (center-right?) that you can't tell them apart except on a few issues.
Just vote on it. Get DADT replaced with a simple, "gays and everyone else who wants to join the military are welcome." and let the media have their two week circle-jerk of panic about it, and by the middle of May, it will be accepted as part of US history and a complete non-issue by November.
You're so close and I keep leading you but you're not taking the bait.
It wasn't blue dogs that tossed Ohio to Bush in 2006 and it wasn't blue dogs that came out in record numbers in 2008 in CA. A large chunk of the democrat base does not like gays or gay marriage. Since we take great pleasure in slapping around so-cons all the time I think it's only fair to point out the problems the dem party has with homosexuals.
OTOH, it could be a trap. If the dems let it slide until after the election and it fails, they can blame republicans. That way they don't piss off the bigger portion of their base while allowing repubs to take the brunt of the criticism.
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Randall Gross Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:25:24am |
re: #536 Killgore Trout
Instapundit still clinging to a debunked conspiracy...
On this day of all days? Yeesh.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:25:35am |
re: #534 Walter L. Newton
All the more reason we need a Fairness Doctrine... the wingnuts are taking over the media
I'll now have to confess
All these years I've been working in broadcasting, I have slowly but surely infiltrated the highest ranks of the old MSM
My evil plot is about to come to fruitiion
BWwaaaahahahahhah!!!!
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:26:25am |
re: #529 Mad Al-Jaffee
I won't comment on how I feel about Jimmy Buffet and his music.
I really like Margaritaville - it's a sweet little nostalgic tune.
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DaddyG Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:26:29am |
re: #534 Walter L. Newton
Via Political Carnival and Crooks & Liars, we learn that Comcast has announced a new venture with RightNetwork...
All the more reason we need a Fairness Doctrine... the wingnuts are taking over the media.
I suspect the invisible hand of commerce will slap this one down quicker than it did Air America. You can only stray so far of the middle without becoming a very small niche.
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avanti Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:26:40am |
re: #534 Walter L. Newton
Via Political Carnival and Crooks & Liars, we learn that Comcast has announced a new venture with RightNetwork, "an independently-owned media company" whose mission is "to entertain, engage, and enlighten Americans who are looking for content that reflects and reinforces their perspective and worldview. RIGHTNETWORK will consistently impact the political and cultural discussions of Americans" (it is set to launch this summer).
[Link: www.politico.com...]
All the more reason we need a Fairness Doctrine... the wingnuts are taking over the media.
Very few want a "fairness doctrine". let the public chose echo chambers from either side if they like.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:27:07am |
re: #535 Cannadian Club Akbar
From the mind your own fucking business file..
[Link: www2.hernandotoday.com...]
Dear Lord. Smoking is the root of all evil? Someone needs a recalibration...
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:27:53am |
Less than two years ago, this same funeral home was a command post for the grass-roots army that propelled Barack Obama to victory in this conservative swing state. Here is where supporters distributed signs and stickers, sorted lists of registered voters and rallied with a Johnny Cash cover band.
Now, some of Obama's supporters are mounting a defiant strike against the president's party. The nascent third party, North Carolina First, could endanger the Democratic congressional majority by siphoning votes from incumbent Democrats in November's midterm election, potentially enabling Republican challengers to pick up the seats.
Organizers say they are so fed up with Democrats who did not support health-care reform that they simply do not care.
"Our whole agenda is to turn that apple cart around and say, 'No more are we going to blindly support you because you're a Democrat,' " said Dana S. Cope, executive director of the 55,000-member State Employees Association of North Carolina (SEANC), which is leading the effort. "We're going to support you because you're right on the issues and if you're not right on the issues, we're going to remove you from office."
SNIP
SEANC and its parent group, the Service Employees International Union, possibly the nation's most politically powerful labor union, are funding the effort, which was announced April 8. In the days since, they have hired more than 100 canvassers who are rounding up the signatures needed to qualify as a third party on the general election ballot.
This is a top priority for outgoing SEIU President Andy Stern, who considers it a way to hold Democratic lawmakers accountable for their health-care votes. "It's not a fly-by-night kind of thing," said SEIU spokeswoman Lori Lodes. "We're making a very strong commitment to doing this. There is significant money behind it . . . There's not a ceiling to what we're willing to do."
The unions are giving voice to progressive activists across this state who say they feel betrayed by Reps. Larry Kissell, Heath Shuler and Mike McIntyre, Democrats who sided with Republicans against the health-care bill.
SNIP
Still, Democratic leaders are keeping watch. The effort threatens to pull money and support from Democratic incumbents who badly need both in a year without Obama atop the ballot and when the political environment is toxic.
"It's an unfortunate turn of events that they've decided this is how they want to use their energy and resources," said Andrew Whalen, executive director of the North Carolina Democratic Party, who was a dues-paying SEIU member when he was a maintenance worker in college.
SNIP
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:28:22am |
re: #543 avanti
Very few want a "fairness doctrine". let the public chose echo chambers from either side if they like.
I do!
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DaddyG Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:28:53am |
re: #536 Killgore Trout
Instapundit still clinging to a debunked conspiracy...
The fact that there was a vicious attack on ta GOP staffer after an event that was protested by anarchists is not debunked.
The idea that the attack was necessarily politically motivated is debated.
I suspect some neer-do-wells attracted by the protest could have been involved but there is no evidence of that short of some arrests.
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avanti Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:29:52am |
re: #527 Aceofwhat?
fantastic. right now there are two dudes thinking "wait...this is NOTHING like i was told it would be..."
Terrorist, meet missile, missile, this is the terrorist, enjoy your brief time together.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:30:57am |
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:31:46am |
ah, the fresh tang of ozone in the morning...zap!
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DaddyG Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:31:52am |
re: #546 Walter L. Newton
I do!
Who defines fair? (and the idea of a fairness doctrine sounds so Orwellian to me...)
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:32:06am |
re: #547 DaddyG
The fact that there was a vicious attack on ta GOP staffer after an event that was protested by anarchists is not debunked.
The idea that the attack was necessarily politically motivated is debated.
I suspect some neer-do-wells attracted by the protest could have been involved but there is no evidence of that short of some arrests.
Until there is an arrest you can't have a debunking can you?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:32:08am |
re: #549 Aceofwhat?
weird. you're normally such a sensible dude!
Really? Ask him about his obsession with the number 4011.
/
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avanti Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:32:13am |
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:32:36am |
re: #529 Mad Al-Jaffee
I won't comment on how I feel about Jimmy Buffet and his music.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:32:39am |
re: #547 DaddyG
The fact that there was a vicious attack on ta GOP staffer after an event that was protested by anarchists is not debunked.
The idea that the attack was necessarily politically motivated is debated.
I suspect some neer-do-wells attracted by the protest could have been involved but there is no evidence of that short of some arrests.
You don't understand DaddyG. When Kilgore says something is "debunked" he means he doesn't beleive it happened and will gladly direct you to columns written by others that don't beleive it happened
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:33:12am |
re: #551 DaddyG
Who defines fair? (and the idea of a fairness doctrine sounds so Orwellian to me...)
that's because it IS Orwellian!
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:33:23am |
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avanti Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:33:38am |
re: #549 Aceofwhat?
weird. you're normally such a sensible dude!
I think Walter is trying to provoke a discussion.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:34:09am |
re: #558 Walter L. Newton
I would be a real political circus... a lot of fun. I prefer letting politicians show themselves for what they really are.
The thought of most of them naked is disturbing!!
//
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:34:11am |
re: #559 avanti
I think Walter is trying to provoke a discussion.
well, that is what we do here...nothing wrong with that-
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:34:34am |
re: #554 avanti
Yea, but I'm more conservative than you on the 1st amendment.
No Advanti... there is a contingent of the left that wants a Fairness Doctrine. I say let them get their shit out on the table and make fools of themselves..
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Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:34:50am |
Former Rep. Tancredo: Send Obama Back To Kenya!
The event took place at the Bi-Lo Center in Greenville, and featured former Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO) as its keynote speaker. Tancredo, who ran for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008, said that Americans are "going to have to pray that we can hold on to this country."
He added, referring to President Obama: "If his wife says Kenya is his homeland, why don't we just send him back?"
Pastor Stan Craig, of the Choice Hills Baptist Church, was particularly angry about the state of Washington, saying he "was trained to defend the liberties of this nation." He declared that he was prepared to "suit up, get my gun, go to Washington, and do what they trained me to do."
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:34:53am |
re: #560 sattv4u2
The thought of most of them naked is disturbing!!
//
...he says to the man in the silk robe...
(Walter - kidding. You know i love the silk.)
| 565 |
avanti Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:35:09am |
re: #561 Aceofwhat?
well, that is what we do here...nothing wrong with that-
Never said there was, wanna discuss that./
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:35:18am |
re: #553 Cannadian Club Akbar
Really? Ask him about his obsession with the number 4011.
/
I like No. 4711. Well, when it comes to cologne. And, No. 5 when it comes to perfume.
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DaddyG Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:35:20am |
re: #552 RogueOne
Until there is an arrest you can't have a debunking can you?
Unless of course an attack on a GOP staffer doesn't fit the template of the violent right wingers- then you keep praying the story goes away. Both sides of the aisle are playing this beyond what it really is.
Note: In light of last weeks discussion I reiterate; I don't associate anarchists with Dems or progressives.
| 568 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:35:47am |
Anyone else here watch Breaking Bad? Great episode last night. That's kind of redundant, since every episode has been great.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:37:07am |
re: #564 Aceofwhat?
...he says to the man in the silk robe...
(Walter - kidding. You know i love the silk.)
I'll have you know that silk robe ia an exact reloca of the robe Hugh Hefner wore the night he boffed Barbi Benton
Walter thought if he bought the robe ,,,,,
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Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:37:21am |
re: #547 DaddyG
The idea that the attack was necessarily politically motivated is debated.
Not really. The only people debating it are lying. There's no evidence that the attack was politically motivated. The claim that there were "political slurs" is not true.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:38:31am |
re: #568 Mad Al-Jaffee
Anyone else here watch Breaking Bad? Great episode last night. That's kind of redundant, since every episode has been great.
i loved the first season, but it's felt strained since then. dude can whip up high-grade meth but can't figure out to use a damn safe deposit box? honestly...using the cash laying around the house as a plot device turned me off.
and it's too bad. the acting is superb.
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avanti Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:38:43am |
re: #566 MandyManners
I like No. 4711. Well, when it comes to cologne. And, No. 5 when it comes to perfume.
Heard a funny take on numbers playing poker at the casino. Guy to my right says " I got "big lick" and another guys says you mean Big slick ? (ace-king) The guy says nope, Big lick (6-9)
| 573 |
sattv4u2 Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:39:08am |
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Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:40:17am |
re: #571 Aceofwhat?
i loved the first season, but it's felt strained since then. dude can whip up high-grade meth but can't figure out to use a damn safe deposit box? honestly...using the cash laying around the house as a plot device turned me off.
Walt's not always the most practical or sensible guy.
I think the show is the best drama and dark comedy on tv.
| 575 |
Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:40:19am |
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:40:25am |
re: #563 Killgore Trout
you misplaced the bold tag
"If his wife says Kenya is his homeland, why don't we just send him back?"
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:41:47am |
re: #270 Stonemason
How many glasses do we need? Seriously, $5.4 million? For stemware?
Even at $100 per (which is outrageous), that is 54,000 glasses. Where can they fit? Or is it $5,350,000 for design and $50,000 for goblets?
Am I the only person wondering why the State Department is spending 5.4 million freaking dollars on stemware?
No, now you've got me wondering.
Is the stemware for all the various State Department locations around the world? Also, I assume they need different styles of glasses for different drinks. Also, breakage.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:41:49am |
re: #575 Aceofwhat?
really? it's second nature to me.
OH - you meant your actual pets. sorry. nevermind.
2 dogs
I tell them every day I have more balls them both of them combined
They sort of just tilt their heads and look at me quizically
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:42:03am |
re: #574 Mad Al-Jaffee
Walt's not always the most practical or sensible guy.
I think the show is the best drama and dark comedy on tv.
it's not something that i like about myself - that i get too easily distracted by an obvious plot device. i literally can't enjoy it after that.
Weeds on Showtime is a great dark comedy that i still enjoy.
| 580 |
MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:42:13am |
The UK’s Zionist Federation (ZF) is calling for a review of last week’s decision by the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) saying that there is not “the slightest risk” that the people would be misled by the inclusion of photos.
In its ruling, the ASA said last week: “We understood, however, that the status of the occupied territory of the West Bank was the subject of much international dispute, and because we considered that the ad implied that the part of east Jerusalem featured in the image was part of the State of Israel, we concluded that the ad was likely to mislead.”
SNIP
For those who don't know, the Kotel is the Western Wailing Wall.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:42:51am |
re: #563 Killgore Trout
absolutely despicable stuff. i hate that shit.
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:43:02am |
re: #572 avanti
Heard a funny take on numbers playing poker at the casino. Guy to my right says " I got "big lick" and another guys says you mean Big slick ? (ace-king) The guy says nope, Big lick (6-9)
I have no idea what that means.
| 583 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:43:11am |
re: #579 Aceofwhat?
If nothing else, you should like season 2 and the current one for Bob Odenkirk's character, Saul Goodman.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:43:24am |
re: #580 MandyManners
SNIP
For those who don't know, the Kotel is the Western Wailing Wall.
It's not the Kotel California!
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DaddyG Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:43:31am |
re: #570 Killgore Trout
Not really. The only people debating it are lying. There's no evidence that the attack was politically motivated. The claim that there were "political slurs" is not true.
I didn't claim there were- in fact I linked a blog that was doing a good job of sorting out the rumors from the facts.
Your blanket use of "debunked" makes it sound like there wasn't an attack on a GOP staffer and her boyfriend who were leaving a GOP fundraising event. Whether it was politically motivated or not cannot be determined unless there are arrests in the case.
As in all cases like this there are differeing eyewitness accounts. Some of the guests earlier in the evening were confronted with some ugly slurs from the protesters.
Who knows what influence that had on the attack if any?
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:45:11am |
re: #583 Mad Al-Jaffee
If nothing else, you should like season 2 and the current one for Bob Odenkirk's character, Saul Goodman.
i'll try it again!
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Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:45:26am |
I just remembered something positivie I can say about Jimmy Buffet. He has an excellent harp player in his band.
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:45:58am |
The event took place at the Bi-Lo Center in Greenville, and featured former Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO) as its keynote speaker. Tancredo, who ran for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008, said that Americans are "going to have to pray that we can hold on to this country."He added, referring to President Obama: "If his wife says Kenya is his homeland, why don't we just send him back?"
Pastor Stan Craig, of the Choice Hills Baptist Church, was particularly angry about the state of Washington, saying he "was trained to defend the liberties of this nation." He declared that he was prepared to "suit up, get my gun, go to Washington, and do what they trained me to do."
Misplaced bold tags, fun for the whole family.
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darthstar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:46:14am |
re: #563 Killgore Trout
Tancredo is the gift that keeps on giving. I think he should stump for candidates in every close race.
| 590 |
freetoken Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:46:58am |
For those wanting the short resume on the President and COO of the new RightNetwork:
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avanti Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:47:34am |
re: #577 SanFranciscoZionist
No, now you've got me wondering.
Is the stemware for all the various State Department locations around the world? Also, I assume they need different styles of glasses for different drinks. Also, breakage.
"WASHINGTON - Hillary Clinton's State Department admitted it goofed big-time and has told lawmakers it is going to re-bid a $5.4 million contract for crystal stemware at U.S. embassies that shafted New York's Steuben Glass and sent the work to Sweden.
Patrick F. Kennedy, a top State official, made the stunning announcement at a private meeting today with Democratic Sens. Charles Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand of New York and Sherrod Brown of Ohio about the contract.
"He said, 'We done wrong' -- for which I give them a lot of credit," Schumer told the Post."
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sattv4u2 Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:48:00am |
re: #589 darthstar
Tancredo is the gift that keeps on giving. I think he should stump for candidates in every close race.
As long as the President does the same
To date, he's 0-fer-3
just sayin!
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:49:40am |
re: #585 DaddyG
I didn't claim there were- in fact I linked a blog that was doing a good job of sorting out the rumors from the facts.
Your blanket use of "debunked" makes it sound like there wasn't an attack on a GOP staffer and her boyfriend who were leaving a GOP fundraising event. Whether it was politically motivated or not cannot be determined unless there are arrests in the case.
As in all cases like this there are differeing eyewitness accounts. Some of the guests earlier in the evening were confronted with some ugly slurs from the protesters.
Who knows what influence that had on the attack if any?
I thought only angry words from Republicans can cause violence.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:53:24am |
re: #547 DaddyG
The fact that there was a vicious attack on ta GOP staffer after an event that was protested by anarchists is not debunked.
The idea that the attack was necessarily politically motivated is debated.
I suspect some neer-do-wells attracted by the protest could have been involved but there is no evidence of that short of some arrests.
I suspect it was business-as-usual-for-thugs-day in New Orleans that day.
Apart from this conference, there have been several shootings in New Orleans on CANAL street (not exactly out-of-the-way), innocent bystanders shot, etc.
This attack right now appears to be just one more attack in a field of many attacks.
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Randall Gross Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:53:26am |
re: #589 darthstar
Tancredo is the gift that keeps on giving. I think he should stump for candidates in every close race.
From the same article, a different speaker attacks R-Lindsay Graham:
I'm a tolerant person. I don't care about your private life, Lindsey, but as our U.S. Senator I need to figure out why you're trying to sell out your own countrymen, and I need to make sure you being gay isn't it.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:54:33am |
TO DO LIST
Grocery shop
Mow
Pressure wash the fences
bathe the dogs
re-set the stone walkway and re-fill with sand
figure out what to cook for dinner
sit like a lump typing on LGF with another cup-o-coffee
So far,,, I've managed to do one of the above!
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:55:08am |
re: #596 sattv4u2
TO DO LIST
Grocery shop
Mow
Pressure wash the fences
bathe the dogs
re-set the stone walkway and re-fill with sand
figure out what to cook for dinner
sit like a lump typing on LGF with another cup-o-coffeeSo far,,, I've managed to do one of the above!
you should take a break-
| 599 |
reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:55:39am |
re: #577 SanFranciscoZionist
No, now you've got me wondering.
Is the stemware for all the various State Department locations around the world? Also, I assume they need different styles of glasses for different drinks. Also, breakage.
Probably so.
If we expect our State Dept to be involved in diplomacy around the world, we have to give them the supplies they need to do it.
And this very well will include provisions for official dinners.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:55:41am |
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sattv4u2 Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:55:46am |
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sattv4u2 Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:56:27am |
re: #600 Cannadian Club Akbar
And switch from coffee to beer.
no ,, WAY too early
in 5 minutes it will be past noon ,, THEN ,,,,
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:56:54am |
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sattv4u2 Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:57:27am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:58:05am |
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Locker Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:58:09am |
re: #585 DaddyG
I didn't claim there were- in fact I linked a blog that was doing a good job of sorting out the rumors from the facts.
Your blanket use of "debunked" makes it sound like there wasn't an attack on a GOP staffer and her boyfriend who were leaving a GOP fundraising event. Whether it was politically motivated or not cannot be determined unless there are arrests in the case.
As in all cases like this there are differeing eyewitness accounts. Some of the guests earlier in the evening were confronted with some ugly slurs from the protesters.
Who knows what influence that had on the attack if any?
You make all these comments but ignore the statement right from the quote:
It is deeply ironic that Democrats are trying to sell the idea that Republicans are somehow violent and unAmerican, when in fact, every actual violent incident is perpetrated by liberals, usually union thugs, against Republicans.
This DEBUNKED garbage is put forth as proof of the ridiculous statement quoted above. You can claim that this incident was politically motivated and I can do the same thing with every single mugging in NYC... insinuate that there is "no way to know" until some arrests are made. It's bullshit.
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:59:19am |
re: #606 Locker
This DEBUNKED garbage is put forth as proof of the ridiculous statement quoted above. You can claim that this incident was politically motivated and I can do the same thing with every single mugging in NYC... insinuate that there is "no way to know" until some arrests are made. It's bullshit.
Except that wasn't killgores argument and it wasn't a mugging. Other than that, you're right on target.
| 608 |
sattv4u2 Mon, Apr 19, 2010 8:59:59am |
re: #605 Cannadian Club Akbar
Call it what you want...Sophia!!!
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Apr 19, 2010 9:00:04am |
re: #577 SanFranciscoZionist
No, now you've got me wondering.
Is the stemware for all the various State Department locations around the world? Also, I assume they need different styles of glasses for different drinks. Also, breakage.
Yes... but the stemware proliferation around the world is out of control. It's getting dangerous. It was reported last week that a Hamas leader, attending a meeting of the State Department at the Tel Avi embassy threatened to lunch a stemware attack on Israel. The plot was discovered after he attempted to leave the embassy with 3 Stueben leaded crystal glasses under his coat.
I suggest a Stemware Non-Proliferation Treaty as soon as possible
| 610 |
Randall Gross Mon, Apr 19, 2010 9:00:19am |
re: #606 Locker
The Hutaree Militia arrests immediately belie the statement just by themselves. There have been plenty of more recent wingnut issues.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Apr 19, 2010 9:00:24am |
re: #596 sattv4u2
TO DO LIST
Grocery shop
Mow
Pressure wash the fences
bathe the dogs
re-set the stone walkway and re-fill with sand
figure out what to cook for dinner
sit like a lump typing on LGF with another cup-o-coffeeSo far,,, I've managed to do one of the above!
Phase 1: Collect Underpants
| 612 |
DaddyG Mon, Apr 19, 2010 9:00:53am |
re: #594 reine.de.tout
I suspect it was business-as-usual-for-thugs-day in New Orleans that day.
Apart from this conference, there have been several shootings in New Orleans on CANAL street (not exactly out-of-the-way), innocent bystanders shot, etc.
This attack right now appears to be just one more attack in a field of many attacks.
That could be the case. I just wonder if two Dem campaign staffers were beaten by a couple of white guys shortly after a radical anti-government political demonstration that included invited right wing hangers on... would there be such a knee jerk reaction on the part of the left to debunk the attack as just another New Orleans crime spree?
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Locker Mon, Apr 19, 2010 9:01:10am |
re: #607 RogueOne
Except that wasn't killgores argument and it wasn't a mugging. Other than that, you're right on target.
Well maybe that's why I quoted DaddyG and not Kilgore. What a shocker.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Apr 19, 2010 9:01:19am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 9:01:27am |
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sattv4u2 Mon, Apr 19, 2010 9:01:58am |
re: #615 Cannadian Club Akbar
Great. Now I need a minute!!
/
With her,, I didn't even need that long
{SIGH}
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sattv4u2 Mon, Apr 19, 2010 9:03:08am |
Okay,,, I'm either going to
start the to do list
or
buy beer
Either way, I'm out
WALTER,, from the few posts of yours so far this a.m., I see your in top form
SALLY FORTH!!
| 618 |
Cato the Elder Mon, Apr 19, 2010 9:04:20am |
re: #506 DaddyG
Give global warming a few years more and you won't need to worry about foggy bottom. The Washington Monument can be used as a mooring.
Not like we're looking as if we'll do what it takes to stop it, especially considering that what it takes would probably involve reducing the global population by at least two thirds.
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DaddyG Mon, Apr 19, 2010 9:04:38am |
re: #606 Locker
I disagree with the quote- that is over the top. I also don't agree with the right wing blogs that are spinning this thread into whole cloth. (Surprise!)
There is no way to tell in this case if the attackes were definitavely political or non-political unless there is more evidence. I wasn't defending the blog I was objecting to the blanket statement that this was "debunked" without further clarification on the aprt of Killgore.
So please but the "bullshit" away and don't add meaning to my words that isn't there.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Apr 19, 2010 9:07:03am |
re: #618 Cato the Elder
Not like we're looking as if we'll do what it takes to stop it, especially considering that what it takes would probably involve reducing the global population by at least two thirds.
Maybe we can alternate days that we breath!
Sorta like when there was the gas shortages and many states instituted the Oregon Plan. If your car tag began in an even number, you could buy gass Monday, Wednesday and Friday, odd tags were Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday
We could do it by last name initial!
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DaddyG Mon, Apr 19, 2010 9:14:25am |
re: #621 sattv4u2
That would have the immediate advantage of halving the population in the first day of the program. By the end of the second day you would be down to 25% of the population. (Those who can breathe with gills will slow the rate of declone a bit - but then they will probably think Water World was a documentary.)
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 19, 2010 9:15:46am |
Amanda Knox is innocent! well, maybe. I have my doubts about her conviction.
[Link: www.injusticeinperugia.org...]
Young or inexperienced investigators have a tendency to believe their own hunches. This is dangerous, because uneducated hunches are usually wrong. Hunches are not bad, they just need to be allowed to die a natural death when evidence proves them wrong. The sign of an investigation run amok is when an initial hunch is nurtured and kept on life support long after evidence should have killed it. This case is just such a situation. In the Knox case, the investigator openly states:“We knew she was guilty of murder without physical evidence.” --Fabio Giobbi, Investigator.
Then, when physical evidence came in that did not support their story, they simply changed their story. And their suspects. And their murder weapons. And the motives. (If there was ever a ‘smoking gun’ in this case; that statement was it.)
I will only say of the interrogation, that if any FBI Agents I supervised had conducted that interrogation in the U.S., I would have had them indicted. .......Hypothetically, any trained investigator operating for many hours without rules, in a foreign language, slapping and threatening a naïve, frightened girl just out of her teens and in a foreign country, (denying her food, sleep and the right to an attorney and Consular advice) can get her to say just about anything.
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prairiefire Mon, Apr 19, 2010 9:24:08am |
re: #623 RogueOne
"Angel Face" is a new book about the trial and murder.[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]
Ms nNadeau believes Knox is guilty.
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Cato the Elder Mon, Apr 19, 2010 9:24:50am |
re: #621 sattv4u2
Maybe we can alternate days that we breath!
Sorta like when there was the gas shortages and many states instituted the Oregon Plan. If your car tag began in an even number, you could buy gass Monday, Wednesday and Friday, odd tags were Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday
We could do it by last name initial!
Funny, I was just thinking about the subject of rationing as it might pertain to anti-AGW efforts.
Jimmy Carter, of whom you know I am no fan, was right when he said during the shortages following the OPEC boycott that dealing with our addiction to foreign oil was the moral equivalent of war.
The problem with making decisions based on such an equivalence is that in the absence of bombs falling, people refuse to feel that they're in such a position. Life goes on, there is no problem other than gasoline shortages or high gas prices, and as soon as the immediate crisis has passed, they forget all about the looming day of reckoning and go back to the status quo.
In WWII people more or less cheerfully (I'll get to the "less" part it a minute) accepted rationing as painful but necessary. However, the minute the war was over, any attempt to prolong rationing one hour more than needed would have resulted in riots.
If peak oil and AGW are what Ludwig says they are - and I'm accepting for the sake of argument that he's right - then rationing on a worldwide scale would be an entirely appropriate response to the peril.
The trouble is, how do you get people to accept it? Even during wartime, one immediate effect of rationing is the instant creation of a lucrative black market for people who have the money and don't want to accept restrictions. This is the "less" part of "more or less cheerfully". How would you convince the bulk of the population to go along with such a program in what we laughably call "peacetime"?
I just finished reading Ken Follett's "The Eye of the Needle", which contains lots of old information about what rationing entailed for average Brits during WWII. No unnecessary travel, for one thing. What was necessary was decided by the government. No civilian petrol except for approved uses. No lights after dark, or at least blackout curtains to hide them. No imported foods, no luxury items, no more than X ounces of butter or margarine every two weeks, etc., etc., etc.
An argument could be made that our current situation already or soon will call for similar restrictions. But how on earth would you sell it to fat, happy people who can't see more than ten days into the future and for whom 2050 or 2100 is something most of them will not live to see anyway?
I think this subject would repay study. A look at what wartime rationing meant in detail will be where I shall start.
This may need to become a full-length essay.
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ryannon Mon, Apr 19, 2010 9:25:37am |
re: #609 Walter L. Newton
Yes... but the stemware proliferation around the world is out of control. It's getting dangerous. It was reported last week that a Hamas leader, attending a meeting of the State Department at the Tel Avi embassy threatened to lunch a stemware attack on Israel. The plot was discovered after he attempted to leave the embassy with 3 Stueben leaded crystal glasses under his coat.
I suggest a Stemware Non-Proliferation Treaty as soon as possible
Paper plates, plastic tableware and Styrofoam cups for all embassies.
| 628 |
CuriousLurker Mon, Apr 19, 2010 9:26:14am |
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prairiefire Mon, Apr 19, 2010 9:29:16am |
re: #627 ryannon
Paper plates, plastic tableware and Styrofoam cups for all embassies.
Aww, not classy enough for all the entertaining that needs to be done! Well, probably all the other countries (Except China) are eating off of paper plates, too.
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Slap Mon, Apr 19, 2010 9:38:04am |
re: #609 Walter L. Newton
Humbly suggest a minor alteration:
Stemware Non-Overordering Treaty.
SNOT.
Just a thought....
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 9:42:30am |
re: #626 Cato the Elder
what do you think of a pigovian solution? petroleum taxes...
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Aceofwhat? Mon, Apr 19, 2010 9:43:23am |
re: #627 ryannon
Paper plates, plastic tableware and Styrofoam cups for all embassies.
paper. sure, nominally i'm a conservative...but styrofoam is the devil.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 19, 2010 9:47:46am |
re: #612 DaddyG
That could be the case. I just wonder if two Dem campaign staffers were beaten by a couple of white guys shortly after a radical anti-government political demonstration that included invited right wing hangers on... would there be such a knee jerk reaction on the part of the left to debunk the attack as just another New Orleans crime spree?
I wonder that also.
As far as I'm concerned - I'm only responsible for myself, and for trying to keep myself straight on stories. If anyone else doesn't want to do that - well, it's a reflection on them, not me.
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darthstar Mon, Apr 19, 2010 9:51:40am |
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Sacred Plants Mon, Apr 19, 2010 12:55:34pm |
re: #631 Aceofwhat?
what do you think of a pigovian solution? petroleum taxes...
I said this on another thread ...
The solution to the conservation of the inherited resources and to the accomodation of those who produce nothing is one and the same: A planetary union must redistribute a resources consumption tax as an unconditional basic income. Such an union can only result from a succesful transformation of capitalism not from its crash.
...but received a lot of flak from angry traders.
/rationing is so khomeini
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