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1 Spider Mensch  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 10:56:35am

That sucks..so to speak...

2 Kragar  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 10:56:57am

I mean, who doesn't watch some porn now and then, but 8 hours a day while at work? Come on now.

3 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 10:58:03am

I bet the writers at The Onion are pissed that they didn't come up with this first.

4 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 10:58:17am

Well we always knew we were getting screwed. Just didn't expect it to be so popular online...

5 webevintage  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 10:58:46am

I guess that explains things just a bit...

6 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 10:58:51am

Making 100K-222K? Making money hand over fist as they say.

7 charlz  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 10:59:55am

re: #2 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I mean, who doesn't watch some porn now and then, but 8 hours a day while at work? Come on now.

yeah, I'm still trying to decide if this is a 'stupid' problem or an 'akin to addiction' problem.

8 Lidane  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:00:22am

So basically, they just wanted a visual reminder of what they were doing to the rest of us. =P

9 lawhawk  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:01:12am

Mindblowing and when you think that they're supposed to have a handle on the comings and goings in the markets, that they were spending so much time glued to the boob-tube on their desktops it's little wonder that the SEC has itself a porn problem and fiddled while the markets came crashing down.

/needs a cigarette after that one...

Seriously though, this is a problem not only because these officials were watching porn instead of the markets, but the oversight of the employees was so lax - they didn't seem to have a problem dishing out slaps on the wrist for these kinds of infractions whereas a similar infraction would find an employee fired from a private company for violating computer access rules (wasting computer/IT department time in protecting networks from virus/spam/spyware attacks), creating a hostile work environment, etc.

10 Lidane  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:01:19am

re: #3 negativ

I bet the writers at The Onion are pissed that they didn't come up with this first.

And the writers at SNL are just happy that the SEC did the work for them. Making fun of this will be easy, so to speak.

11 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:01:32am

The sad thing is that I've had jobs like that as an intern where I sat around for hours waiting for somebody to tell me what to do next. These jobs were for private companies not the government. The happy thing is I still got paid!

12 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:02:09am

I thought for sure the tech department would have all those sites blocked. It's a serious security risk to have government computers going to shady porn sites.

13 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:02:20am

re: #10 Lidane

And the writers at SNL are just happy that the SEC did the work for them. Making fun of this will be easy, so to speak.

Unbelievably easy.... the kind of easy that makes you want to return your check!

Jon Stewart

14 Kragar  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:03:19am

re: #7 charlz

yeah, I'm still trying to decide if this is a 'stupid' problem or an 'akin to addiction' problem.

It can be both.

On 9/11, after we posted a bulletin and alerted all commands that all network traffic was restricted to official business, we caught a guy surfing porn. This was like 6 hours after the attack.

15 Jaerik  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:03:21am

How do you watch porn for eight straight hours? Doesn't your brain eventually reach some kind of saturation point?

16 Fozzie Bear  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:03:47am

This explains much, really. The scads of people coming forward about this and that fraud case who are saying they had called the SEC dozens of times, to no effect must feel pretty vindicated. They were literally jacking off while the economy crumbled because of exactly the sort of thing the SEC is supposed to regulate and prosecute.

17 Varek Raith  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:04:36am

Wait. Isn't pr0n what the internet was made for???
///

18 Mocking Jay  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:04:57am

Christ. 8 hours a day. And then they probably went home and looked at more porn.

It's kinda silly to ask if our financial meltdown could have been avoided, though.

For want of a tissue the Stock Market was lost. :)

19 Kragar  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:05:21am

re: #15 Jaerik

How do you watch porn for eight straight hours? Doesn't your brain eventually reach some kind of saturation point?

"The best midget porn site on the net, guaranteed? Well, I'll be the judge of that!"

20 lawhawk  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:05:39am

re: #12 Killgore Trout

In one of the cases, the guy wanted to get to the porn sites that he figured out a way to avoid going through the proxy server - and I think it was through using google images...

21 Mocking Jay  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:05:58am

re: #12 Killgore Trout

I thought for sure the tech department would have all those sites blocked. It's a serious security risk to have government computers going to shady porn sites.

That's what baffles me the most. Not that they did it, but that they were able to.

22 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:07:12am

re: #15 Jaerik

How do you watch porn for eight straight hours? Doesn't your brain eventually reach some kind of saturation point?

Yeah I mean honestly after about four hours he should have been ready to just hit TV tropes instead.... reading it is a lot less energy intensive then watching porn so it makes time fly by faster...

Or at least so I've been told...

23 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:07:54am

Eegad! First Chomsky, now this:

William Ayers Stirs up Controversy in Fresno

About 50 members of the Tea Party Movement came to protest Bill Ayers appearance in Fresno.

Mark Ratchford said, "I don't like what's going on. This man and Obama are friends and I don't like what they stand for. It's not American."

John Smedley said, "I'm fed up with all of this government takeover. And Bill Ayers is one of Obama's buddies, and I don't like it and he doesn't belong here and he can go home."

Inside, before members of Peace Fresno, Ayers got a warm welcome and said he didn't quite know why the Tea Party folks are mad at him. He said he shares their distrust of government.

William Ayers said, "I actually think there are many things we would agree on, including a skepticism of the government. Which I'm very skeptical of. I think I'm more skeptical of corporate America than they are, but nevertheless I think we probably share more than they imagine." (emphasis added)

24 Varek Raith  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:08:09am

re: #22 jamesfirecat

Yeah I mean honestly after about four hours he should have been ready to just hit TV tropes instead... reading it is a lot less energy intensive then watching porn so it makes time fly by faster...

Or at least so I've been told...

Perhaps the silly fool only had dial up at home?
XD

25 Jaerik  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:08:14am

re: #16 Fozzie Bear

They were literally jacking off while the economy crumbled because of exactly the sort of thing the SEC is supposed to regulate and prosecute.

You don't work for the SEC to actually do a good job at crappy government salary.

You work for the SEC so that after 4-5 years, you can accept a consulting gig at one of the companies you were supposed to be monitoring for literally 5-6 times your previous salary. But only provided you hadn't actually done your job while at the SEC.

26 What, me worry?  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:08:20am

lol I was reading that this morning on CNN.

Someone put in the comment section that the number of people that did this represents about 1% of all the SEC employees. However, they were senior employees and some attorneys, no less, who should know better. Personally, I don't care if it's 1, 10 or 100.

27 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:08:38am

re: #17 Varek Raith

Wait. Isn't pr0n what the internet was made for???
///


"If somebody took all the porn off of the internet, I'm sure there would only be one website left and it'd be called BringBackThePorn.com"

Doctor Percival Ulysses Cox

28 Lidane  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:09:18am

re: #9 lawhawk

Seriously though, this is a problem not only because these officials were watching porn instead of the markets, but the oversight of the employees was so lax - they didn't seem to have a problem dishing out slaps on the wrist for these kinds of infractions whereas a similar infraction would find an employee fired from a private company for violating computer access rules (wasting computer/IT department time in protecting networks from virus/spam/spyware attacks), creating a hostile work environment, etc.

My last employer rationed personal computing time to your breaks and lunch hour, or you risked getting in trouble. If I'd spent even two minutes watching porn at work, I'd have been bounced out of the office so quick I'd have ended up with whiplash.

re: #15 Jaerik

How do you watch porn for eight straight hours? Doesn't your brain eventually reach some kind of saturation point?

Seriously. After a while, it would all just blur together.

29 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:09:25am

I don't understand how they can access this stuff on a government conputer. I'm a fed contractor, and they have anything potentially offensive blocked - including The Onion, The AV Club, cracked.com and YouTube. I'm surprised they don't block all blogs.

30 Sergeant Major  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:10:14am

No wonder they didn't notice the market..... they were in a constant state of euphoria

31 Bob Levin  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:10:36am

re: #9 lawhawk

You're right, but unfortunately, it's not inconsistent with the normal movements of human psychology. I mean, if you've got a good fire extinguisher, you won't fiddle while Rome burns. But if the fire extinguisher hasn't been invented yet--grab the violin, close your eyes, and play a little Bacchus sonata.

I'm sure these guys had no idea what was happening, much less what to do about it.

32 What, me worry?  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:14:06am

re: #29 Mad Al-Jaffee

I don't understand how they can access this stuff on a government conputer. I'm a fed contractor, and they have anything potentially offensive blocked - including The Onion, The AV Club, cracked.com and YouTube. I'm surprised they don't block all blogs.

I'm thinking this is all going to change at this point!

33 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:14:55am

"Hi, honey, I'm home. Got some bad news though. Got fired for surfing porn at work."
Bet that conversation doesn't end well.

34 subsailor68  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:15:27am

Hm, hi all. Here's an interesting video of Barney Frank talking to Andrea Mitchell about the SEC pornography issue. It seems Mr. Frank blames the republicans and their free market/less regulation positions. I'm not sure how that all applies to an independent government agency - it seems like he's in a bit of a stretch here.

Barney Frank on SEC

(BTW, it's a link to realclearpolitics, but the video itself is an MSNBC interview)

35 MandyManners  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:15:46am

Speaking of porn,...

The promise of Japan's biggest porn star was all it took to convince thousands of Chinese men to hack their way out of China's famous "great firewall."

China's tight grip on Internet security means the central government blocks all politically sensitive and subversive websites. This includes many social networking sites, including Twitter.

Aoi Sola, a Japanese adult movie star, launched a Twitter account in March and, at last count, was approaching 58,000 followers.

Getting over the Chinese firewall isn't easy, but it's possible with some determination.

SNIP

36 Digital Display  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:16:20am

re: #29 Mad Al-Jaffee

I don't understand how they can access this stuff on a government conputer. I'm a fed contractor, and they have anything potentially offensive blocked - including The Onion, The AV Club, cracked.com and YouTube. I'm surprised they don't block all blogs.

Hard to believe the Feds can't afford a Bluecoat firewall and turn on standard filtering..Jeez.

37 kreyagg  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:18:43am

Not to be glib, but I think I go to work to get away from all the porn.

38 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:20:29am

re: #32 marjoriemoon

I'm thinking this is all going to change at this point!

They seem to go back and forth with some sites. Sometimes flickr is blocked (and any images linked to it won't appear) sometimes its not. Some pop culture/entertainment sites (as long as they don't have social networking or videos) work but sometimes they're blocked. I'm still on LGF at work. So far, so good.

39 Interesting Times  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:21:31am
An SEC accountant attempted to access porn websites 1,800 times in a two-week period and had 600 pornographic images on her computer hard drive.

Not exactly what I have in mind when it comes to workplace equality for the sexes...

40 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:21:58am

I think it would be funny if you worked in the porn industry and all non-porn related sites were blocked.

41 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:23:29am

LSU has some hot chicks... Florida, yeah. Bama? Oh yeah!

Oh! Wrong SEC?

42 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:23:56am

re: #35 MandyManners

Speaking of porn,...

The promise of Japan's biggest porn star was all it took to convince thousands of Chinese men to hack their way out of China's famous "great firewall."

Salmon will swim up waterfalls to get a chance to mate, but we humans do them one better!

43 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:24:11am

re: #35 MandyManners

Pics?

44 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:25:03am

Think of all the money the Government will save on Kleenex.

(yes... I did have to)

45 charlz  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:25:34am

My agency blocks all kind of sites including flickr, facebook, and anything with 'blog' in the url. The summer interns always offer to tell me how to get around the blocking if I want. 8-)

46 Lidane  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:25:35am
47 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:27:30am

"Let him with a free hand; cast the first stone."
-Dennis Miller

48 Spider Mensch  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:28:41am

just remember, as far as the internet, porn is king...
[Link: www.cnn.com...]

49 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:29:47am

re: #47 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Let him with a free hand; casttoss the first stone rocks."
-Dennis Miller

50 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:31:24am

re: #49 Mad Al-Jaffee

"Let him with a free hand; casttoss the first stone rockssalad."
-Dennis Miller

51 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:33:08am

re: #48 Spider Mensch

"Look Earl, it's a porn machine!"

-Randy, My Name is Earl, on finding a laptop

52 subsailor68  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:33:15am

Well I'll be! When I Google SEC, it appears that stands for "Searching Erotica Constantly". Now it all makes sense -it's their job.

53 Kragar  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:34:04am
54 AK-47%  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:34:10am

Makes you wonder what is going on at the NSA, CIA, TSA, ATF, etc...

55 Mocking Jay  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:34:48am

Charles, if you have any objection to me using this avatar I'll understand :)

56 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:34:48am

With all of the Faux-outrages around, I truly think this is a real outrage!

Seventeen of the employees were “at a senior level,” earning salaries of up to $222,418.

58 Sheila Broflovski  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:36:09am

re: #15 Jaerik

How do you watch porn for eight straight hours? Doesn't your brain eventually reach some kind of saturation point?

If you've seen one, you've seen them both.

59 Mocking Jay  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:36:53am

re: #57 Varek Raith

Such wasted potential. This is how that should have read:

The promise of Japan's biggest porn star was all it took to convince thousands of Chinese men to penetrate China's famous "great firewall."

60 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:37:43am

re: #41 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

LSU has some hot chicks... Florida, yeah. Bama? Oh yeah!

Oh! Wrong SEC?

You know it! hahaha

61 subsailor68  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:38:03am

re: #54 ralphieboy

Makes you wonder what is going on at the NSA, CIA, TSA, ATF, etc...

Same stuff:

NSA: Numbering Sexual Artifacts
CIA: Cataloging Indecent Art
TSA: Transcribing Sexy Articles
ATF: Adult Titillation Films

62 Mocking Jay  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:38:39am

re: #61 subsailor68

I guess EPA was too easy.

63 AK-47%  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:39:02am

re: #58 Alouette

If you've seen one, you've seen them both.


One can assume they just had the sites up all day, they would occasionally duck out to go get more hand cream, fetch fresh coffee and occasionally check LGF...

64 Varek Raith  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:39:04am

re: #62 JasonA

I guess EPA was too easy.

Way.

65 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:39:28am

Yes, I mean to be graphic... you mean a bunch of bureaucrats are sitting at their desks with their pants around their ankles yanking it?....

Porn is not a spectator sport, it is uh... interactive?

I am thinking of this movie scene...

66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:41:16am

re: #58 Alouette

If you've seen one, you've seen them both.

"Once you've seen one woman naked, you kind of want to see them all naked."
-Ron White

67 subsailor68  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:41:24am

re: #62 JasonA

I guess EPA was too easy.

LOL! Dead giveaway - Exploring Pornography Avidly

68 Kragar  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:42:33am

re: #63 ralphieboy

One can assume they just had the sites up all day, they would occasionally duck out to go get more hand cream, fetch fresh coffee and occasionally check LGF...

"Hey, Larry, can you cover the 2:00 PM call about mortgage derivatives? I'm watching Vanessa Lane in an interracial anal gang bang right now. Thanks buddy."

69 subsailor68  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:43:03am

And I really, really don't want to know what's going on at the Department of the Interior!

70 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:43:29am

Wake me up, before you Gogo...

71 Kragar  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:43:41am

re: #66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Once you've seen one woman naked, you kind of want to see them all naked."
-Ron White

A human being makes up his mind if he wants to have sex with a member of the opposite sex within the first minute of meeting them. For men, the answer is yes.

72 MandyManners  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:44:19am

re: #42 jamesfirecat

Salmon will swim up waterfalls to get a chance to mate, but we humans do them one better!

From this story and the one I linked, it seems that humans will do just about anything to get some lovin'.

73 Kragar  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:44:25am

re: #69 subsailor68

And I really, really don't want to know what's going on at the Department of the Interior!

I'm a lot more curious about the ATF now.

74 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:44:33am

re: #70 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wake me up, before you Gogo...

You call THAT Begging?!!

75 Achilles Tang  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:45:02am

Why is this news talking of during the financial meltdown? They probably couldn't do too much by that point anyway; I'm more interested in what they were doing before.

76 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:45:06am

re: #69 subsailor68

that's where the all Internal and POV stuff is monitored.

77 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:45:27am

re: #75 Naso Tang

Same thing.

78 Mocking Jay  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:45:46am

re: #75 Naso Tang

Why is this news talking of during the financial meltdown? They probably couldn't do too much by that point anyway; I'm more interested in what they were doing before.

They were... limp?

79 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:46:07am

re: #73 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Bureau of Ass and Titty F***ing?

80 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:47:02am

re: #78 JasonA

they went blind from doing the same thing all those years.

81 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:47:29am

re: #80 Dreggas

So, that's why they missed it!

82 subsailor68  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:47:41am

re: #78 JasonA

They were... limp?

Nah, but it explains why the annual evaluations had the standard phrase: "Mr. ____ always seems to be working hard."

83 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:48:11am

re: #82 subsailor68

he's a real hands on employee.

84 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:49:01am

I wish there was a Federal Dept called DRP.

I used the googler, to no avail...

Rosie Palms...

85 Still not a hampster  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:49:26am

Another accountant accessed porn sites 1800 times in a two week period and she had 600 pornographic images on her government hard drive.

:3

It's not only guys.
...
"the most shocking thing is that it started in 2008" ... maybe it was a response to pressure.

Anyway, maybe it was an office where no one cared if you watched pornography.

Hell I remember being in an office and hearing my boss have sex with his wife through the wall. I guess they got a baby sitter and didn't want to pay for a hotel.

86 Varek Raith  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:49:39am

I'm shocked and appalled and slightly, though not really, shocked at these not really offensive comments.
/

87 subsailor68  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:50:10am

re: #83 Dreggas

he's a real hands on employee.

LOL! "Mr. ______'s only flaw is his constant attempt to get off early."

88 Mocking Jay  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:50:32am

re: #87 subsailor68

LOL! "Mr. ___'s only flaw is his constant attempt to get off early."

You're on a roll.

89 MandyManners  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:50:43am

For the women.

And.

One more.

How could I forget this one?

My favorite.

I'm off to the market. Have a great afternoon, Lizards!

90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:50:49am

The humor in this has penetrated the seriousness of the situation...

91 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:50:52am

re: #87 subsailor68

he starts every day at 9 and is on time but by 9:02 he's already spent.

92 Still not a hampster  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:51:25am

re: #36 HoosierHoops

Hard to believe the Feds can't afford a Bluecoat firewall and turn on standard filtering..Jeez.

Here's how you do it, use your work laptop and use your cell phone instead of the internal internet connection.

93 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:51:36am

re: #89 MandyManners

I get so sick of modeling for these damn photos...

94 Locker  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:51:39am

Hey it's the free market economy. The markets are actually helped by the consumers prodigious use of these fine adult entertainment products. Now if the SEC guys had bought stock and then attempted to improperly inflate the value by 8 hour per day viewing... THEN it might be a problem.

95 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:52:37am

re: #94 Locker


yeah but that's free markets not FREE WILLY!

96 Mocking Jay  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:52:48am

re: #94 Locker

Hey it's the free market economy. The markets are actually helped by the consumers prodigious use of these fine adult entertainment products. Now if the SEC guys had bought stock and then attempted to improperly inflate the value by 8 hour per day viewing... THEN it might be a problem.

Huh. huh huh. You said "inflate." huh huh huh

97 subsailor68  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:52:53am

Well, it appears Britain has the same problem:

MILF: Ministry for International Lending and Finance

98 Fozzie Bear  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:53:10am

In defense of their IT department, it is virtually impossible to prevent someone from accessing a specific website without blocking the internet entirely, if the user in question has a moderate amount of computer knowledge.

That said, I would bet that the people at the SEC weren't bothering with creative use of proxies and SSH tunneling if they were doing it all day, every day.

99 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:53:31am
100 lawhawk  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:54:29am

I'm shocked. Shocked. That there's porn viewing going on at the SEC. After all, even librarians are known to go at it in the stacks. They do it by the books. These SECers are merely doing it by the numbers.

101 Varek Raith  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:55:58am

re: #96 JasonA

Huh. huh huh. You said "inflate." huh huh huh

102 lawhawk  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:56:26am

In related news... Eliot Spitzer is planning a political comeback. /rimshot /ducking

103 Velvet Elvis  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:56:45am

re: #21 JasonA

That's what baffles me the most. Not that they did it, but that they were able to.

I read they were using proxies. They were committed.

104 Kragar  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:56:52am

re: #97 subsailor68

Well, it appears Britain has the same problem:

MILF: Ministry for International Lending and Finance

The Philippines

MILF: Moro Islamic Liberation Front

105 Achilles Tang  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:56:59am

This is more related to the previous thread, but it seems Richard Lindzen at MIT doesn't read the news.

Climate Science in Denial

I must say it does bother me somewhat that the WSJ, which I tend to respect, also doesn't seem to follow such issues, by printing this half page of denialism.

106 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:57:00am

Here at the SEC our employees, just like the markets, rise and fall with the introduction of outside stimuli. Whether we blow a load or make a wad we are subject to these influences. Sometimes we have to swallow hard unless we really wanna take it in the behind.

107 lostlakehiker  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:57:01am

Sounds like they knew they were fucked.

108 Kragar  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:57:23am

re: #102 lawhawk

In related news... Eliot Spitzer is planning a political comeback. /rimshot /ducking

Get a towel ready.

109 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:57:53am

re: #94 Locker

Hey it's the free market economy. The markets are actually helped by the consumers prodigious use of these fine adult entertainment products. Now if the SEC guys had bought stock and then attempted to improperly inflate the value by 8 hour per day viewing... THEN it might be a problem.

According to Mr. Show, everything in the world is controlled by a series of blowjobs.

110 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:58:14am

re: #55 JasonA

Charles, if you have any objection to me using this avatar I'll understand :)

I am guessing some outrageous outrage.

111 Kragar  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:58:33am

re: #109 Mad Al-Jaffee

According to Mr. Show, everything in the world is controlled by a series of blowjobs.

Are you trying to imply otherwise?

112 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:59:01am

re: #109 Mad Al-Jaffee

I am eternally controllable...

Just sayin'.

113 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 11:59:51am

re: #100 lawhawk

I'm shocked. Shocked. That there's porn viewing going on at the SEC. After all, even librarians are known to go at it in the stacks. They do it by the books. These SECers are merely doing it by the numbers.

If you've been to some of the library conferences I've been to, you would know that the stereotypical librarian look is very false. I've met some incredibly cute, hot and sexy library women.

114 Locker  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:00:38pm

re: #55 JasonA

Charles, if you have any objection to me using this avatar I'll understand :)

I hope he doesn't because if it's ok then I think we should have a little fuck-you-extremists party and all change our avatar to that image. Well... it was fun to imagine anyway. ;)

115 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:01:21pm

I know you're all thinking it, so I'll just come right out and say it:

NO, I do not work for the SEC.

116 Achilles Tang  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:01:58pm

re: #55 JasonA

Charles, if you have any objection to me using this avatar I'll understand :)

Without a caption, I'm going to guess it's a novice bomb maker with AlQaeda in Iraq.

See, there are no pictures of Mohammed, so it's impossible for anyone to represent him, unless a gorilla suit is used.

117 Mocking Jay  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:02:22pm

re: #114 Locker

I hope he doesn't because if it's ok then I think we should have a little fuck-you-extremists party and all change our avatar to that image. Well... it was fun to imagine anyway. ;)

Believe me, I thought of how fun it would be if everyone on all the internets changed their image to one of the few Muhammed depictions available.

118 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:03:41pm

I wonder if they are surfing free porn, or porn they were paying for with a government issued credit card.

oh shit.

119 Mocking Jay  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:04:02pm

re: #114 Locker

I hope he doesn't because if it's ok then I think we should have a little fuck-you-extremists party and all change our avatar to that image. Well... it was fun to imagine anyway. ;)

I dare you :P

Here's the image.

120 jc717  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:04:40pm

Supposedly less than 1% engaged in work porn surfing. You can probably find 1% of employees at any sizable company/agency engaged in porn/drugs/gambling/other vices on company time.

121 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:04:45pm

re: #119 JasonA

I'd get an answer from Charles first...

I'm just sayin'...

122 Locker  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:05:13pm

re: #119 JasonA

I dare you :P

Here's the image.

Laugh I stole that shit from you the moment I saw it... I'm ready.

123 Randall Gross  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:06:31pm

Rec'ed in email, why guys shouldn't take phone messages:

Someone from the guyna colleges called -- they said the pabst beer was normal. (I didn't even know you liked beer?)

124 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:06:34pm

re: #120 jc717

Why are you looking at me like that? Cut it out.
/

125 wrenchwench  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:07:47pm

re: #105 Naso Tang

This is more related to the previous thread, but it seems Richard Lindzen at MIT doesn't read the news.

Climate Science in Denial

I must say it does bother me somewhat that the WSJ, which I tend to respect, also doesn't seem to follow such issues, by printing this half page of denialism.

At least it's on the Opinion page. But they've had him there four times in the last 6 months. And quoted in a kind of Denialist Revue article in February.

126 Achilles Tang  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:08:16pm

re: #120 jc717

Supposedly less than 1% engaged in work porn surfing. You can probably find 1% of employees at any sizable company/agency engaged in porn/drugs/gambling/other vices on company time.

I thought everyone knew that employers looked at what employees accessed online. There must be more suckers born every day than I realized.

127 Renaissance_Man  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:09:15pm

Perhaps it's time to start introducing some regulations like these:

Police barred from penis enlargement

Notably, the local method of enlargement appears to be

wrapping the penis with leaves from the "gatal-gatal" (itchy) tree so that it swells up "like it has been stung by a bee," the expert said.

Words fail me.

Of course, such a - um - limitation would meet with considerable political opposition here in the US. After all, being American means the freedom to wrap your penis in any irritant you choose and not be discriminated against for it, as the Founders intended. Note also that it's an Indonesian law.

And you know who else comes from Indonesia.

That's right.

128 Mocking Jay  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:09:23pm

re: #120 jc717

Supposedly less than 1% engaged in work porn surfing. You can probably find 1% of employees at any sizable company/agency engaged in porn/drugs/gambling/other vices on company time.

Well, they caught less than 1%.

129 Mocking Jay  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:10:31pm

re: #127 Renaissance_Man

Words fail.

130 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:10:44pm

re: #123 Thanos

I had to read that a second time. "I never heard of a place called Guyna... Oh!"

131 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:13:33pm

re: #127 Renaissance_Man

Perhaps it's time to start introducing some regulations like these:

Police barred from penis enlargement

Notably, the local method of enlargement appears to be

Words fail me.

Of course, such a - um - limitation would meet with considerable political opposition here in the US. After all, being American means the freedom to wrap your penis in any irritant you choose and not be discriminated against for it, as the Founders intended. Note also that it's an Indonesian law.

And you know who else comes from Indonesia.

That's right.

Have the policemen's wives weighed in on this yet?

132 Mark Pennington  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:15:33pm

re: #21 JasonA

That's what baffles me the most. Not that they did it, but that they were able to.

I heard on the local radio here that they were somehow able to get around it.
Apparently, it is possible.

Personally, I can't stand porn and never watch it (probably has to do with what I do for a living.) but don't judge those who do. However, the SEC doing this instead of doing their jobs is outrageous.

133 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:15:48pm

re: #126 Naso Tang

I thought everyone knew that employers looked at what employees accessed online. There must be more suckers born every day than I realized.

There are. Last office job I worked at, I very rarely used the company internet for personal reasons, and when I did it was usually to check my personal email account.

When IT did a bug sweep of our dept., everyone had anywhere from 100-200 viruses on their comps, I had a whopping two.

My bitter asshole of a boss claimed that it was because I wasn't doing as much work as everyone else. WTF?

134 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:21:20pm

Why has no one posted this yet?



/I'm sure they can play this at their firing hearings as a defense...

135 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:24:35pm

re: #134 ausador

Avenue Q ding!

136 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:25:18pm

re: #125 wrenchwench

At least it's on the Opinion page. But they've had him there four times in the last 6 months. And quoted in a kind of Denialist Revue article in February.

Bah. Guy didn't get the chair at MIT by being an ignoramus. This is exactly who the scientific community needs to focus on persuading.

A denialist is a person who latches on to a conclusion that they aren't qualified to support, given known facts. Lindzen, unlike some other scientific hacks, is just a distinguished scientist who begs to differ. Let him talk.

137 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:29:36pm

re: #102 lawhawk

In related news... Eliot Spitzer is planning a political comeback. /rimshot /ducking

NY really is the gift that keeps on giving, isn't it?

138 Sheepdogess  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:33:55pm

Not surprised at all. These are the same clowns who believe the first amendment has more to do with pornography than it has to do with "the right of the people to peaceably assemble and petition the government for a redress of greavances".

Government workers.
Worthless pieces of shit.
Fire them all (except for the military).

139 Mocking Jay  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:36:48pm

re: #138 Sheepdogess

That's a really broad brush you're painting with.

140 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:36:53pm

re: #138 Sheepdogess

Not surprised at all. These are the same clowns who believe the first amendment has more to do with pornography than it has to do with "the right of the people to peaceably assemble and petition the government for a redress of greavances".

Government workers.
Worthless pieces of shit.
Fire them all (except for the military).

all of them?

141 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:39:06pm

re: #138 Sheepdogess

Wouldn't that be awesome? Highly trained military professionals deployed all across the nation to maintain our roadways and sewers. Of course, we'd have to pull our troops out of.. well.. everywhere.

Oh, and institute compulsory service for life.

142 Obdicut  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:39:37pm

re: #138 Sheepdogess

In the name of Reine, I say screw you.

143 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:40:23pm

re: #142 Obdicut

In the name of Reine, I say screw you.

oh, good call. I doubt she'd agree with the sentiment.

144 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:42:25pm

Well let the Marines handle the IRS and public schools. There will be no more tax cheats, and no more kids playing hookie.

145 Mark Pennington  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:43:38pm

re: #138 Sheepdogess

Not surprised at all. These are the same clowns who believe the first amendment has more to do with pornography than it has to do with "the right of the people to peaceably assemble and petition the government for a redress of greavances".

Government workers.
Worthless pieces of shit.
Fire them all (except for the military).

downding for insulting my wife.

146 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:46:56pm

'Spose we could have the Air Force handle the postal service. They could use that smart bomb technology to deliver our mail right down the chimney at top speed.

147 windsagio  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:47:06pm

not really much to add, but I wonder if he realizes he's describing a police state?

148 Fozzie Bear  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:52:41pm

re: #138 Sheepdogess

Not surprised at all. These are the same clowns who believe the first amendment has more to do with pornography than it has to do with "the right of the people to peaceably assemble and petition the government for a redress of greavances".

Government workers.
Worthless pieces of shit.
Fire them all (except for the military).

Fuck you.

149 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:55:01pm

I know, we could have the Army handle Law Enforcement. What could possibly go wrong? I mean, it's worked like a charm in every other country that has tried it. Of course, we would have to amend the constitution first.

I think you see where I am going with this, Sheepdip. Idiot.

150 Sheepdogess  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:55:45pm

re: #139 JasonA

That's a really broad brush you're painting with.

I'm mad as hell.

151 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:57:07pm

re: #139 JasonA

That's a really broad brush you're painting with.

There's broad-brushing, then there is abject stupidity. That post contains generous portions of both.

re: #147 windsagio

not really much to add, but I wonder if he realizes he's describing a police state?

Too dumb to realize it, I'd wager.

152 Mocking Jay  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 12:58:30pm

re: #150 Sheepdogess

I'm mad as hell.

You should try to remember that a lot of people on this board probably have a gov't job or have a loved one who does. My late father was a postal worker.

153 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 1:00:45pm

re: #150 Sheepdogess

You're contempt for our nation and the people who serve us in ways not related to the military is duly noted.

154 AK-47%  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 1:34:09pm

re: #138 Sheepdogess

Not surprised at all. These are the same clowns who believe the first amendment has more to do with pornography than it has to do with "the right of the people to peaceably assemble and petition the government for a redress of greavances".

Government workers.
Worthless pieces of shit.
Fire them all (except for the military).

for starters, it's "grievances"

But I usually don't harp on spelling.

But fire them all, and when you wake up retching from drinking poluuted water or eating tainted food, coughing your lungs out from breathing foul air, and then get even sicker from taking the unregulated patent medicines you bought, then you might reconsider the crap you posted.

Until then, I will keep at least some of government employees. I will just expect them to do their appointed task.

155 Mandown2010  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 1:34:15pm

And when the government controls healthcare, instead of surfing porn, bureaucrats will be looking at naked medical pictures of your sisters, girlfriends, moms, etc.

156 DoubleBarrellBunnyAnger  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 1:35:41pm

This is so easily fixed. Let DoD manage their IS.

157 DoubleBarrellBunnyAnger  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 1:36:12pm

Does the leadership of that agency have so little commitment to their mission they will not enforce the most minimal computer security? Time to clean house.

158 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 1:41:00pm

re: #155 Mandown2010

I've seen ur mom, you got nuthin' to worry 'bout.
/ouch, just kidding

159 celticdragon  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 1:59:24pm

re: #9 lawhawk

Mindblowing and when you think that they're supposed to have a handle on the comings and goings in the markets, that they were spending so much time glued to the boob-tube on their desktops it's little wonder that the SEC has itself a porn problem and fiddled while the markets came crashing down.

/needs a cigarette after that one...

Seriously though, this is a problem not only because these officials were watching porn instead of the markets, but the oversight of the employees was so lax - they didn't seem to have a problem dishing out slaps on the wrist for these kinds of infractions whereas a similar infraction would find an employee fired from a private company for violating computer access rules (wasting computer/IT department time in protecting networks from virus/spam/spyware attacks), creating a hostile work environment, etc.

The glibitarians see all that as a feature instead of a bug. Markets can regulate themselves, bee-yotch! If Rome burns, we can always build a better one named Galt's Gulch, right?

160 Sheepdogess  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 2:06:02pm

re: #154 ralphieboy

I meant federal employees in DC. I should have been more clear.

We should start over, and don't make a Government job a job for life. When our public servants screw up we just move em around or send them of to one of the federal goverment's "retirement homes", like Fannie Mae, so they can steal more of our money.

Remember Jamie "THE WALL" who allowed 9/11 to happen" Gorelick? Though she had no training or experience in finance, Gorelick was appointed the Vice Chairman of Fannie Mae and served in the role from 1997 to 2003. During that time she earned over $26 million dollars During Gorelick's tenure, FNMA suffered a $10 billion accounting scandal. She kept the millions BTW. Nice work Jamie.

161 celticdragon  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 2:08:47pm

re: #155 Mandown2010

And when the government controls healthcare, instead of surfing porn, bureaucrats will be looking at naked medical pictures of your sisters, girlfriends, moms, etc.

Riiiigghhttt....

Maybe you prefer the model we have now where a corporate bureaucrat uses a complicated computer algorithm to target your mom, sister or daughter whenever they file a claim related to breast cancer, and then rescinds their insurance. Corporate profits fucking rock, right?

I will take bumbling government bureaucratic incompetence every day over competent corporate bureaucratic malice and fraud that kills their own customers for quarterly profits.

162 TheAntichrist  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 2:11:06pm

Why all the outrage? Don't we all want the SEC staffers to work harder?

163 simoom  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 2:12:40pm

This story seems to keep resurfacing, though this time around it seems to have made its biggest splash in the media.

June, '09:
[Link: blogs.reuters.com...]

Beginning on October 20, 2008, the OIG conducted an investigation into information showing a Los Angeles Regional Office SK-17 supervisor had been using his SEC-assigned computer to access Internet pornography. The investigation revealed that while using his SEC computer during 17 working days, the employee received approximately 1,880 access denials for Internet websites classified by the SEC’s Internet filter as pornography.

Feb, '10:
[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]

The work computer of one regional supervisor for the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission showed more than 1,800 attempts to look up pornography in a 17-day span: "It was kind of distraction per se," he later told investigators.

That regional supervisor is always a top anecdote in the stories :P.

164 simoom  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 2:17:52pm

re: #162 TheAntichrist

Why all the outrage? Don't we all want the SEC staffers to work harder?

Don't you see? The existence of SEC porn addicts mean we have to scuttle financial reform! ///

[Link: voices.washingtonpost.com...]

Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), ranking Republican on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said it was “nothing short of disturbing that high-ranking officials within the SEC were spending more time looking at pornography than taking action to help stave off the events that brought our nation's economy to the brink of collapse."

"This stunning report should make everyone question the wisdom of moving forward with plans to give regulators like the SEC even more widespread authority," Issa said in a subtle jab at ongoing financial reform efforts.

165 Sheepdogess  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 2:26:40pm

re: #162 TheAntichrist

Very funny!

166 AK-47%  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 2:29:30pm

re: #160 Sheepdogess

I meant federal employees in DC. I should have been more clear.

We should start over, and don't make a Government job a job for life. When our public servants screw up we just move em around or send them of to one of the federal goverment's "retirement homes", like Fannie Mae, so they can steal more of our money.

Remember Jamie "THE WALL" who allowed 9/11 to happen" Gorelick? Though she had no training or experience in finance, Gorelick was appointed the Vice Chairman of Fannie Mae and served in the role from 1997 to 2003. During that time she earned over $26 million dollars During Gorelick's tenure, FNMA suffered a $10 billion accounting scandal. She kept the millions BTW. Nice work Jamie.

Ah, the fedril gummint.

I am all for market solutions to anything and everything that the market can do well, which is basically to balance supply and demand and to direct the flow of capital to those places where it does the most good for the most people.

Problem is, when it comes to managing resources, it really sucks. And that does not just mean mineral resources, it means our air and water, our soil, our infrastructure and the education and health of our populace.

We expect a lot of government, and we seem to expect it will do its job well at a minimum of cost and be neither seen nor heard except in times of crisis.

167 Sheepdogess  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 2:44:00pm

re: #166 ralphieboy

I am sorry to say that I have lost faith in public education in this country. It has failed our children greatly. In my state, kids graduate from high-school knowing all about potlatches and longhouses but have little if any knowledge on how their "fedril gummint" works, or doesn't work for that matter. And then there is the so called "socialization", the word that is dropped as the best reason not to home-school our kids. They say "They will not be properly socialized at home". But I won't even bother going there. The socialization of our children at the hands of public education is complete. They should be very proud. They did it and they did it well.

Sexed up.
Dumbed down.
Stoned out of their minds.

Sorry for the rant.

168 Mark Pennington  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 3:00:30pm

re: #167 Sheepdogess

I am sorry to say that I have lost faith in public education in this country. It has failed our children greatly. In my state, kids graduate from high-school knowing all about potlatches and longhouses but have little if any knowledge on how their "fedril gummint" works, or doesn't work for that matter. And then there is the so called "socialization", the word that is dropped as the best reason not to home-school our kids. They say "They will not be properly socialized at home". But I won't even bother going there. The socialization of our children at the hands of public education is complete. They should be very proud. They did it and they did it well.

Sexed up.
Dumbed down.
Stoned out of their minds.

Sorry for the rant.

I have a lil beekiller on the way and can't wait to enroll him/her(foetus!) in public school.

A few idiots in government does not make the whole thing bad.

169 AK-47%  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 3:01:26pm

re: #167 Sheepdogess

The other option is to make it accessible only to those with the means to pay for it privately and leave the rest even more sexed up, dumbed down and stoned out of their minds.

We expect a lot of government and don't want to pay for it. Arizonas wanted law and order and Low Taxes and got Sherrif Joe Arpaio and his prison tent cities.

We want immigration reform, but we don't want to enforce a hermetically sealed border, nor do we want to create an enormous bureaucracy to register and track immigrant workers.

Parents expect the state to educate their children without them playing a role in guiding their growth and personal sense of priorities. We cannot have it both ways.

170 Ojoe  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 3:35:43pm

As an Architect, with little no real work since this financial crisis hit, (and by extension, my contractor and builder buddies are unemployed too, or near it), I have a whole warehouse full of curse words for the likes of these "regulators" and the politicians who go with them.

Here are 5 of them:

You motherfucking sons-of-bitches.

171 celticdragon  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 3:37:59pm

re: #167 Sheepdogess

I am sorry to say that I have lost faith in public education in this country. It has failed our children greatly. In my state, kids graduate from high-school knowing all about potlatches and longhouses but have little if any knowledge on how their "fedril gummint" works, or doesn't work for that matter. And then there is the so called "socialization", the word that is dropped as the best reason not to home-school our kids. They say "They will not be properly socialized at home". But I won't even bother going there. The socialization of our children at the hands of public education is complete. They should be very proud. They did it and they did it well.

Sexed up.
Dumbed down.
Stoned out of their minds.

Sorry for the rant.

Considering that schools are locally run with locally elected boards, you may want to ask some hard questions about that. The failure of schools merely reflects our failure as a society to have even the most cursory interest in knowing how or why our democracy is supposed to work. Oh, never mind...another episode of Dancing With the Stars is on. Priorities!

172 Sheepdogess  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 4:06:28pm

re: #171 celticdragon

Considering that schools are locally run with locally elected boards, you may want to ask some hard questions about that. The failure of schools merely reflects our failure as a society to have even the most cursory interest in knowing how or why our democracy is supposed to work. Oh, never mind...another episode of Dancing With the Stars is on. Priorities!

This is true. Pop culture does much harm indeed. Fatherless households, both affluent and poor, also play a big part in this mess.

Let's start with eliminating, in it's entireity, The US Dept of Education, another one of Dhimmi Carter's miserable failures. It would save the taxpayer 68 Billion right off the bat.

We should let the local state governments run the schools in their states. DOE is a waste of money. Get rid of it.

173 jvic  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 4:23:06pm

It’s still early, but I think we already have our jaw-dropper of the day, as an investigation discovers that senior employees of the Securities and Exchange Commission spent hours every day browsing porn websites — in the midst of the financial meltdown.

Diddling while Rome burns?

174 lostlakehiker  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 4:52:39pm

re: #161 celticdragon

Riiigghhttt...

Maybe you prefer the model we have now where a corporate bureaucrat uses a complicated computer algorithm to target your mom, sister or daughter whenever they file a claim related to breast cancer, and then rescinds their insurance. Corporate profits fucking rock, right?

I will take bumbling government bureaucratic incompetence every day over competent corporate bureaucratic malice and fraud that kills their own customers for quarterly profits.

We don't need a government takeover of the health system to fix this. We don't even need more laws. What we need is an administration that will take care that the laws are faithfully executed. It's part of the swearing-in oath every president takes.

It's already against the law to defraud your customers. You enter into a contract where you take their premiums, but if they get cancer, you cover the treatment, perhaps up to some limit. All nice and clear, set down in writing.

Then when they do get cancer, you renege on your end of the deal. You make up this little song and dance about how they failed to report the skinned knee they got in fifth grade, so that they had not disclosed all prior health problems. Grounds for rescission, they say.

Fraud.

What excuse do the feds have for not bringing charges and sending the miscreants off to the pen?

175 Dr. Shalit  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 5:50:38pm

So What -

SEC Members Might Just Have Ben Influenced by the "Great Vagina" of Mecca, like the one at the Kabbah - and Perhaps Not. Like DUH! -S-

176 Dr. Shalit  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 6:24:02pm

re: #6 Cannadian Club Akbar

Making 100K-222K? Making money hand over fist as they say.

Club Akbar -

Hand Over or Otherwise. The $ WAS made.

-S-

177 celticdragon  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 6:30:03pm

re: #174 lostlakehiker

We don't need a government takeover of the health system to fix this. We don't even need more laws. What we need is an administration that will take care that the laws are faithfully executed. It's part of the swearing-in oath every president takes.

It's already against the law to defraud your customers. You enter into a contract where you take their premiums, but if they get cancer, you cover the treatment, perhaps up to some limit. All nice and clear, set down in writing.

Then when they do get cancer, you renege on your end of the deal. You make up this little song and dance about how they failed to report the skinned knee they got in fifth grade, so that they had not disclosed all prior health problems. Grounds for rescission, they say.

Fraud.

What excuse do the feds have for not bringing charges and sending the miscreants off to the pen?

Maybe we do need more laws, since they seem to be doing it legally somehow. In any event, the free market does not have an answer for how you cover people like me (badly injured and I have degenerative disc disease), my spouse (has cerebral palsey) or my son (is autistic).

Glibitarians say that society (they have an interesting definition of society, methinks) has no responsibility to help any member of that society in any way beyond freely given charity from a church or private donor. Basically you get a no holds barred exercise in contingency as defined by Stephan Gould where luck and chaos determines the winners...and not actual work or intrinsic values. You get good genes and your family has money...you win! You have a bad accident or you have a kid with a genetic defect, then Fuck You! I owe you nothing. Get an abortion next time.

I hope we are better then that, but I am not really sure. I strongly believe that access to health care is as fundamental a right as breathing air. It is life itself...and should not be a privilege of wealth.

178 Varek Raith  Fri, Apr 23, 2010 10:41:04pm

re: #138 Sheepdogess

Not surprised at all. These are the same clowns who believe the first amendment has more to do with pornography than it has to do with "the right of the people to peaceably assemble and petition the government for a redress of greavances".

Government workers.
Worthless pieces of shit.
Fire them all (except for the military).

Anarchy!

179 BethesdaDog  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 1:09:37am

re: #12 Killgore Trout

I know that for a long time the SEC had Finjan security software that blocked sites that were known to be porn, extremist, hate sites, etc. What they have had in the last year or two, I don't know. I think that it would have been very difficult for anybody to get on porn sites using SEC computers given the effectiveness in blocking all kinds of non-porn sites.

I can only say, something is very fishy with this whole story.

180 hellosnackbar  Sun, Apr 25, 2010 5:41:26am

A "hard on" case of derepricktion of duty!


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King Crimson - 21st Century Schizoid Man 21st Century Schizoid Man by KIng Crimson. Filmed in Japan December 2015. An album and DVD from the 2015 tour, Radical Action to Unseat the Hold of Monkey Mind, can be purchased from dgmlive.com as well as audio downloads ...
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How Donald Trump Killed the Immigration Bill With 1 Tweet (CNN)For weeks, House Republican leaders have been working behind closed doors to thread the needle on an immigration bill that could secure the support of the bulk on their conference. On Friday morning, President Donald Trump ended all that ...
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“Did You Even READ the Piece?” This Startup Wants to Make That Question Obsolete for Commentors Let’s be honest: Are you going to read this or skim this? In a land of feeds, tidbits, and bullet points, readers don’t often get to the end of a piece — let alone absorb each sentence along the ...
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Young the Giant: Simplify (Official Audio) Young The Giant's official audio for their new single 'Simplify' - available now. Download / Stream 'Simplify': lnk.to Catch Young The Giant on Tour this fall with very special guest Lights!More info at: youngthegiant.com Site: youngthegiant.comFacebook: facebook.comTwitter: @youngthegiantInstagram: instagram.comYouTube: ...
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Traveller - ‘Nobody Makes It Out’ (Live at WFUV)wfuv.org • Follow @wfuv: ow.ly Traveller performs "Nobody Makes It Out" live in Studio A. Recorded 5.9.18. Host: Alisa AliAudio: Caroline InzucchiCameras: Kristal Ho, Brian Gallagher & Kaylee KurkierewiczEditors: Kaylee Kurkierewicz & Brian Gallagher
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Fantastic Negrito - the Duffler (Official Video) ‘The Duffler’ is taken from Fantastic Negrito's brand new album 'Please Don't Be Dead' out now. Order your copy here: fn.lnk.to Director: Freddy Macdonald Producer: Fred MacdonaldCinematographer: Sebastian KlingerEditor: Freddy MacdonaldProduction Company: Macdonald Entertainment Partners Check here for Fantastic ...
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Facebook’s Screening for Political Ads Nabs News Sites… One ad couldn’t have been more obviously political. Targeted to people aged 18 and older, it urged them to “vote YES” on June 5 on a ballot proposition to issue bonds for schools in a district near San Francisco. ...
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Stanford Prison Experiment: Why Famous Psychology Studies Are Now Being Torn Apart Sometimes pseudoscience makes it through to the text books, most often in the soft and social sciences. A new exposé based on previously unpublished recordings of Philip Zimbardo, the Stanford psychologist who ran the study, and interviews with his ...
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Goliath Season 2 - Official Trailer In Season 2 of Goliath, Billy McBride takes on a new case, and the fight spills into the streets of Los Angeles and alleys of Venice Beach.Goliath returns 6/15 on Prime Video. » Stream Goliath 6/15 on Prime Video: ...
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