Moonies Selling Far Right Mouthpiece

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It’s official; far right newspaper the Washington Times is going on the auction block.

Washington Times executives are negotiating to sell the newspaper, after the Rev. Sun Myung Moon’s family cut off most of the annual subsidy of about $35 million that has kept the Unification Church-backed paper afloat, company officials said.

Nicholas Chiaia, a member of the paper’s two-man board of directors and president of the church-supported United Press International wire service, confirmed that the paper is actively on the market: “We recently entered into discussions with a number of parties interested in either purchasing or partnering with the Washington Times,” he said in a statement to The Washington Post.

Current and former Times officials said one suitor has been the paper’s former executive editor, John Solomon, who resigned in November 2009. Soon thereafter, they said, Solomon organized a group of investors to purchase the Times or launch a new multimedia outlet called The Washington Guardian. Times company officials said they are also in discussions with other potential investors.

Solomon, a former Washington Post reporter, declined to comment.

The negotiations follow months of turmoil at both the 28-year-old conservative daily and the business empire founded by Moon, 90, whose children are jostling for control over the church’s myriad enterprises, which range from fisheries to arms manufacturing.

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924 comments
1 jamesfirecat  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:14:20pm

Confucius say when moon falls on Newspaper company, they are left black and blue and red all over!

(Best I could do)

2 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:14:45pm

Couldn't they just shut the fucker down?

3 brookly red  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:16:12pm

well, I guess it is still mo better than the NYT...

4 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:16:23pm

I hope the new management requires the paper to adhere to high standards and never lets Robert Stacy McCain set foot in the building again.

5 freetoken  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:16:31pm
The negotiations follow months of turmoil at both the 28-year-old conservative daily and the business empire founded by Moon, 90, whose children are jostling for control over the church’s myriad enterprises, which range from fisheries to arms manufacturing.

Think about the synergy - start a paper in the US capitol that is all for war, then sell the armaments to go along with it.

There are many ways to make a buck in this world.

6 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:17:08pm

re: #2 darthstar

Couldn't they just shut the fucker down?

DC should have a conservative newspaper, provided it is well run.

7 jamesfirecat  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:18:01pm

re: #5 freetoken

Think about the synergy - start a paper in the US capitol that is all for war, then sell the armaments to go along with it.

There are many ways to make a buck in this world.

You furnish the pictures, I'll furnish the war... as I recall someone saying once.... (I know who it was I'm leaving it out for dramatic emphasis)

8 jamesfirecat  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:19:10pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

DC should have a conservative newspaper, provided it is well run.

And there should be a conservative news channel, provided its well run. I don't see the WT becoming one any more than I do FOX becoming the other other.

9 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:19:15pm

BBIAB Installing new anti virus.

10 brookly red  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:20:13pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

DC should have a conservative newspaper government , provided it is well run.


minor details...

11 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:21:28pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

DC should have a conservative newspaper, provided it is well run.

WaTimes is a nutsack rag. They're so far to the right they make Glenn Beck look like a liberal.

Politico should go to print...they're pretty conservative, and they'd be an improvement over the Times.

12 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:22:08pm

re: #10 brookly red

minor details...

DC has a conservative government. President Obama and Congress are further to the right than Reagan or Nixon were.

13 jamesfirecat  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:22:29pm

re: #12 darthstar

DC has a conservative government. President Obama and Congress are further to the right than Reagan or Nixon were.

I'm meeting you halfway hippies!

14 brookly red  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:23:11pm

/first we shoot all the messengers...

15 brookly red  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:24:48pm

re: #12 darthstar

DC has a conservative government. President Obama and Congress are further to the right than Reagan or Nixon were.

medic! over here... medic!

16 freetoken  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:25:02pm

re: #11 darthstar

Politico should go to print...

As in paper? That's so old fashioned. This is the 21st century, man.

17 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:25:51pm

Little Green Washington Times?
Nah, doesn't have the right "ring" to it!

18 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:26:04pm

re: #16 freetoken

As in paper? That's so old fashioned. This is the 21st century, man.

iPad...feh...

19 Spare O'Lake  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:26:32pm

re: #12 darthstar

DC has a conservative government. President Obama and Congress are further to the right than Reagan or Nixon were.

I've maintained that by the time he's finished Obama will be somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun...but I don't think we're there just yet.

20 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:27:04pm

Why would anybody buy a newspaper today? You might as well invest in gramophone futures.

21 jamesfirecat  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:27:35pm

re: #19 Spare O'Lake

I've maintained that by the time he's finished Obama will be somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun...but I don't think we're there just yet.

Not a good blue print for success that is. Attila the Hun was able to take over just about all of Asia EXCEPT Afghanistan.

22 brookly red  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:28:02pm

Saturday night in Gotham... nothing personal but see ya later.

23 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:31:12pm

The Rev Moon is still alive! Now there's a bit of news!

24 freetoken  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:32:20pm

Since we're talking about religious organizations trying to influence society by controlling minds, I'll put here what I put in the Linkage:

New Zealand teacher sacked for teaching 'modern' Shakespeare

A New Zealand English teacher has been sacked for using a modern version of Shakespeare's King Lear dubbed "embarrassing, corrupting and morally defiling" by church administrators of her high school, a newspaper reported Sunday.

The school committee at the Exclusive Brethren sect's Westmount School in Kerikeri, at the Bay of Islands, found Suezette Martin, 49, "had breached the ethos of the school," the Herald on Sunday reported.

It is a private school but receives government money, and Martin said her contract barred her from encouraging pupils who graduate from going on to university.

"I am a results-oriented teacher," said Martin. "I just wanted what was best for the students, and they needed more than just the approved text to pass their exam."

She took her case to the Employment Relations Authority, which expressed sympathy for her position but said it was forced to uphold the dismissal. Martin said she would appeal.

Here is what wikipedia has to say about the Exclusive Brethren:

In New Zealand, it was claimed that clandestine campaigning by the Exclusive Brethren was such that at one stage it had "threatened the Government" of that country. New Zealand Prime Minister Helen Clark accused the sect of hiring a private detective to gather dirt on her and husband Peter Davis, who was pictured in a magazine being kissed by a "mystery man", who turned out to be a family friend

It's examples like this one of the teacher in NZ that gives me pause from supporting any universal school voucher programs here. I don't want tax money going into flakey religious institutions.

25 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:33:51pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

DC should have a conservative newspaper, provided it is well run.

Well, the Washington Post is kinda slowly transitioning into a conservative newspaper.

26 Kragar  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:33:56pm

re: #20 Killgore Trout

Why would anybody buy a newspaper today? You might as well invest in gramophone futures.

I'm planning to invest in this new cutting edge technology called Aldis Lamp

27 Cato the Elder  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:35:49pm

The line from these people has always been that the paper is independent and Moon's crazy church has no influence on it.

Yeah. Right.

28 Randall Gross  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:36:02pm

Wonder if Murdoch's going to buy it?

OT:
Bomb Squad shuts down Times Square, suspicious package in burning car, robot on scene....

An investigation after a car fire is disrupting traffic, both on the roads and the sidewalks, in New York's Times Square.

Officials told CBS News Station WCBS-TV in New York that there were no injuries in the car fire, but that there was a suspicious package in the vehicle's back seat. As a precaution, the bomb squad has been brought to the scene and is using a robot to inspect the package.

Link up top in spinoffs

29 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:36:11pm

re: #20 Killgore Trout

Why would anybody buy a newspaper today? You might as well invest in gramophone futures.

It would only work as a rich man's toy. Not unlike what helped sustain the Washington Times over the years -- that being Sun Myung Moon.

30 jamesfirecat  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:36:24pm

re: #26 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I'm planning to invest in this new cutting edge technology called Aldis Lamp

Zeppelins you fools, I'm telling you there's no better time to get in on the zeppelin market!

31 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:36:30pm

re: #26 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I'm planning to invest in this new cutting edge technology called Aldis Lamp

Sucker! I'm putting all my money in open pollinated seeds and gooooold!

32 jamesfirecat  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:37:27pm

re: #26 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I'm planning to invest in this new cutting edge technology called Aldis Lamp

I'll take your invention and then use it to produce a ground breaking production of Julius Caesar with it!

33 cwnorma  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:38:07pm

It would fit nicely in Rupert Murdoch's stable. I must say though it will be weird not having the old Times Vs Post (read both to guess where the truth lay) conundrum of living in the Beltway

34 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:38:52pm

re: #30 jamesfirecat

Zeppelins you fools, I'm telling you there's no better time to get in on the zeppelin market!

Nah. The future of communications lies in Morse code. It may even have an impact in how news is spread.

/

35 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:39:13pm

Well it's half time..Celtics are winning so far...I have a question for the Lizards.. How is it Rondo has almost run the Cavs out of the building and when he did the halftime interview he had not one drop of sweat on him..He wasn't out of breath and was so composed you'd think he just finished a job interview..
What a fucking stud..A world class athlete..
Cavs better step up..Rondo is running you out of the building..
See ya soon Lizards!

36 Cato the Elder  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:39:50pm

re: #29 Gus 802

It would only work as a rich man's toy. Not unlike what helped sustain the Washington Times over the years -- that being Sun Myung Moon.

I'm betting Murdoch will snap it up.

37 Racer X  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:40:06pm

OMG!

Guam is going to get overpopulated and tip over and capsize! Everyone out!

Rep. Hank Johnson Fears Guam May Capsize

38 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:41:57pm

re: #30 jamesfirecat

Zeppelins you fools, I'm telling you there's no better time to get in on the zeppelin market!

Germany has built a handful of modern zeppelins in the last decade. The rigid airship is not dead as a concept.

39 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:42:03pm

re: #37 Racer X

Racer X - I know you have Pau Gasol on the brain (good thing) but that was weeks ago!

40 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:42:12pm

re: #30 jamesfirecat

Zeppelins you fools, I'm telling you there's no better time to get in on the zeppelin market!

Too late to get in on the ground floor:
[Link: www.zeppelinflug.de...]

41 Linden Arden  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:42:33pm

The White House correspondent's dinner is on for politcal losers on Sat night (like me).

Colbert is way too good to hope for - looks like Jay Leno is the MC comedian.

No controversy from Mr. Nice guy.

42 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:42:34pm

re: #36 Cato the Elder

I'm betting Murdoch will snap it up.

Probably. It does fit the criteria. Although he'd have to shave it down to tabloid form.

Wouldn't make any sense for a moderate to purchase the name which means whoever purchases it has to be well to the right of center.

43 Kragar  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:43:20pm

re: #30 jamesfirecat

Zeppelins you fools, I'm telling you there's no better time to get in on the zeppelin market!

Actually, with new technologies and increasing interest in "green" solutions, Zeppelins might be a growth industry.

44 Racer X  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:43:34pm

re: #39 Stanley Sea

Racer X - I know you have Pau Gasol on the brain (good thing) but that was weeks ago!

I'm slow.

Still funny.

45 Linden Arden  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:43:59pm

re: #42 Gus 802

Probably. It does fit the criteria. Although he'd have to shave it down to tabloid form.

Shave? Murdoch?

Just its balls.

46 ~Fianna  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:45:10pm

re: #19 Spare O'Lake

I've maintained that by the time he's finished Obama will be somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun...but I don't think we're there just yet.

I voted for him, hoping that he'd be at least as left as he claimed he was, although I knew I'd be disappointed.

Obama: I hope you'll like me, but if not, I can change.

47 Kragar  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:45:54pm

re: #32 jamesfirecat

I'll take your invention and then use it to produce a ground breaking production of Julius Caesar with it!

Interesting. I'll check it out after I see the new production of Wuthering Heights they're doing in semaphore.

48 Virginia Plain  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:45:57pm
The negotiations follow months of turmoil at both the 28-year-old conservative daily and the business empire founded by Moon, 90, whose children are jostling for control over the church’s myriad enterprises, which range from fisheries to arms manufacturing.

.

Wow, they're even worse than the Church of Scientology in the front group area.

49 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:46:16pm

re: #33 cwnorma

re: #33 cwnorma

It would fit nicely in Rupert Murdoch's stable. I must say though it will be weird not having the old Times Vs Post (read both to guess where the truth lay) conundrum of living in the Beltway

There has been no Times vs Post for a while, since the current Post is very far from having an uniformly liberal slant in the editorial/op-ed sections.

Times vs Independent is, in my opinion, a more accurate opposition (if we disregard the fact that the Independent doesn't have a print version).

50 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:47:22pm

We should all pitch in and buy the paper.

LGF Times!

51 Kragar  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:48:29pm

re: #50 NJDhockeyfan

We should all pitch in and buy the paper.

LGF Times!

I call dibs on the advice column

52 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:48:56pm

re: #48 Virginia Plain

.

Wow, they're even worse than the Church of Scientology in the front group area.

The things that groups can get away with just by calling themselves a church.

53 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:49:37pm

re: #20 Killgore Trout

There is some nice money to be made in antiques, if the condition is right!
Agree, a newspaper, isn't one of them!

54 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:49:52pm

re: #48 Virginia Plain

.

Wow, they're even worse than the Church of Scientology in the front group area.

They have a vertical monopoly on a very large part of the sushi world. At Bayou la Batre they go from fishing boat construction to fishing, processing, and then to retail restaurants nationwide. (The oil disaster, will be bad for them, too.)

55 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:50:08pm

Watching the Correspondent's dinner?

cspan

56 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:50:08pm

re: #51 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I call dibs on the advice column

Fine...I get the opinion page.

57 Linden Arden  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:50:29pm

re: #52 Gus 802

The things that groups can get away with just by calling themselves a church.

Mainly taxes.

My church of Thor is not respected by the IRS though.

58 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:50:34pm

Please pray for the folks in Arkansas tonight. They have had mulitple tornado warnings again, and it's nowhere near over.

59 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:50:45pm

re: #56 darthstar

Fine...I get the opinion page.

I'll edit!

60 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:50:55pm

re: #42 Gus 802

Probably. It does fit the criteria. Although he'd have to shave it down to tabloid form.

Why? The WSJ, the (London) Times and the Australian aren't tabloids.

So glad Murdoch is too old to run for President. If the guy was 50, we would be a Constitutional amendment away from having our own Berlusconi.

61 tnguitarist  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:51:35pm

Severe flooding in Tennessee.

What a terrible way to lose a family member or friend. Keep those without shelter in your thoughts. A lot of this was textbook flash flooding. It absolutely came on faster than they could respond.

62 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:51:35pm

re: #50 NJDhockeyfan

We should all pitch in and buy the paper.

LGF Times!

Headlines:

Political Obstruction on Critical Bill = FAIL

New Treatment for Butthurt Discovered: Stalker Blogger Snork to be Test Case.

In Music: Great Guitar performances in town the month.

[feel free to suggest your own]

63 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:51:57pm

re: #51 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I call dibs on the advice column

Kragar's advice:
"FOAD"
Repeat, no matter WHAT the question!
LOL!
Emily Post, eat your heart out!

64 tnguitarist  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:51:59pm

re: #58 MandyManners

Please pray for the folks in Arkansas tonight. They have had mulitple tornado warnings again, and it's nowhere near over.

Will do.

65 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:52:56pm

re: #55 Stanley Sea

Watching the Correspondent's dinner?

cspan

There isn't much to watch tonight. The hockey game is a blowout so I'm watching the NASCAR race.

66 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:53:08pm

re: #56 darthstar

Fine...I get the opinion page.

"I think you suck".
"Really, you should reconsider, this"
LOL!
Your mileage may vary!

67 Kragar  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:53:28pm

re: #63 Floral Giraffe

Kragar's advice:
"FOAD"
Repeat, no matter WHAT the question!
LOL!
Emily Post, eat your heart out!

Hey, I have more to my repetoire than that!

68 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:53:52pm

re: #65 NJDhockeyfan

There isn't much to watch tonight. The hockey game is a blowout so I'm watching the NASCAR race.

Join me! Leno, he'll bring down the house!!//

69 jamesfirecat  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:54:08pm

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

Headlines:

Political Obstruction on Critical Bill = FAIL

New Treatment for Butthurt Discovered: Stalker Blogger Snork to be Test Case.

In Music: Great Guitar performances in town the month.

[feel free to suggest your own]

/Iran great country or greatest country?

70 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:55:06pm

re: #64 tnguitarist

Will do.

And, don't forget the folks in West Tennessee and Middle Tennessee. Flooding is better than tornadoes but, it still is Teh Suck. (Mill Creek south of Nashville will crest tonight around midnight. I-24 is a lake.)

71 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:55:10pm

Jake Taaper. Yeah!

72 prairiefire  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:55:45pm

re: #68 Stanley Sea

Jake Tapper is getting an award~meh. I don't like him.

73 Linden Arden  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:55:59pm

re: #71 Stanley Sea

Jake Taaper. Yeah!

I'm with you on the correspondent's dinner - and Jake.

74 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:56:07pm

re: #61 tnguitarist

Severe flooding in Tennessee.

What a terrible way to lose a family member or friend. Keep those without shelter in your thoughts. A lot of this was textbook flash flooding. It absolutely came on faster than they could respond.

Years ago we had a week long rain storm. By the end of the week the flash floods were all over. An elderly man went to his car to go to the store. As he was getting in to his car a wall of mud came down the hill and washed away his house with his wife in it. They never found her.

75 Renaissance_Man  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:56:47pm

re: #60 Nimed

Why? The WSJ, the (London) Times and the Australian aren't tabloids.

So glad Murdoch is too old to run for President. If the guy was 50, we would be a Constitutional amendment away from having our own Berlusconi.

I don't see why Rupert Murdoch would ever want to run for President. By directing a popular media empire that can create its own world without being challenged, he can wield more power than any president and do it without being answerable to voters.

76 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:56:52pm

re: #60 Nimed

Why? The WSJ, the (London) Times and the Australian aren't tabloids.

So glad Murdoch is too old to run for President. If the guy was 50, we would be a Constitutional amendment away from having our own Berlusconi.

Tabloid as opposed to a broadsheet. The WSJ international edition is in a tabloid format. Most newspapers (the ones that are left) are considering switching away from a broadsheet. There other compact versions.

77 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:57:11pm

re: #72 prairiefire

Jake Tapper is getting an award~meh. I don't like him.

I was cracking on the mis-prounounciation of his name! bummer!!

78 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:57:23pm

re: #60 Nimed

Why? The WSJ, the (London) Times and the Australian aren't tabloids.

So glad Murdoch is too old to run for President. If the guy was 50, we would be a Constitutional amendment away from having our own Berlusconi.

What? He's not a native-born American.

79 tnguitarist  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:58:16pm

re: #74 NJDhockeyfan

Years ago we had a week long rain storm. By the end of the week the flash floods were all over. An elderly man went to his car to go to the store. As he was getting in to his car a wall of mud came down the hill and washed away his house with his wife in it. They never found her.

I was watching the live cam they had on the interstate. I think a few people may have lost their lives because they were worried about their vehicle.

80 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:58:58pm

re: #76 Gus 802

Oh, ok.

81 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:59:27pm

Yesterday I was flipping arounf the radio dial in my car and Mark Levin was interviewing a guy who was on the oil rig when it exploded. It was a facinating interview. They have posted it on his website. It's worth a listen.

"James" - who was on the oil rig that blew in the Gulf - calls the Mark Levin Show and explains what occurred.

82 prairiefire  Sat, May 1, 2010 6:59:49pm

Edgar Allen Poe award, awesome. I did not know there was such a thing.

Lots of local scholarship winners for my area.

83 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:00:31pm

re: #79 tnguitarist

I was watching the live cam they had on the interstate. I think a few people may have lost their lives because they were worried about their vehicle.

Screwed-up priorities.

84 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:00:51pm

re: #78 MandyManners

What? He's not a native-born American.

Hence the "constitutional amendment" part. There was some talk of this when Schwarznegger was still considered a model Governor.

85 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:00:54pm

re: #70 MandyManners

And, don't forget the folks in West Tennessee and Middle Tennessee. Flooding is better than tornadoes but, it still is Teh Suck. (Mill Creek south of Nashville will crest tonight around midnight. I-24 is a lake.)

I just read that I-24 has been shut down.
How awful for these folks.

86 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:01:55pm
the paper’s two-man board of directors and president of the church-supported United Press International wire service,

Two people on the board of directors?!

As much as I dislike her, I gotta' give Helen Thomas props for leaving UPI when the Moonies bought it.

87 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:02:22pm

re: #84 Nimed

Hence the "constitutional amendment" part. There was some talk of this when Schwarznegger was still considered a model Governor.

Talk by whom? Brain-dead idiots?!

88 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:02:46pm

re: #75 Renaissance_Man

I don't see why Rupert Murdoch would ever want to run for President. By directing a popular media empire that can create its own world without being challenged, he can wield more power than any president and do it without being answerable to voters.

I don't know about the "more power" part. Anyway, being President and a Media mogul aren't mutually exclusive.

89 sandbox  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:02:47pm

re: #81 NJDhockeyfan

I heard that interview with "James". The prognosis for stopping the flow from below didn't sound good.

90 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:02:49pm

re: #70 MandyManners

And, don't forget the folks in West Tennessee and Middle Tennessee. Flooding is better than tornadoes but, it still is Teh Suck. (Mill Creek south of Nashville will crest tonight around midnight. I-24 is a lake.)

I have family there! I need to make some phone calls in the morning.

91 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:03:35pm

re: #67 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Hey, I have more to my repetoire than that!

Sock it to me baby!

92 prairiefire  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:04:45pm

re: #86 MandyManners

Two people on the board of directors?!

As much as I dislike her, I gotta' give Helen Thomas props for leaving UPI when the Moonies bought it.

Agreed. The Obamas just showed her some love at the Correspondence dinner.

93 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:04:46pm

re: #87 MandyManners

Talk by whom? Brain-dead idiots?!

Some of it was by folks here, some of whom are no longer here by other are. I think one such person may have been avanti, but I do not say that definitively.

94 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:04:47pm

re: #90 NJDhockeyfan

I have family there! I need to make some phone calls in the morning.

Tonight?

95 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:05:48pm

re: #87 MandyManners

Talk by whom? Brain-dead idiots?!

It was rather popular for a while there including with many Republicans..

Should the Constitution be amended for Arnold?

Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, a political ally of Schwarzenegger, introduced the Equal Right to Govern Amendment in July 2003, a few weeks before the actor declared his candidacy in the recall election in which Californians ousted Democrat Gray Davis as governor.

If Hatch's amendment is adopted, an immigrant who has been a naturalized citizen for 20 years could run for president or vice president.

Schwarzenegger, 57, has been a U.S. citizen since 1983. He has retained Austrian citizenship.

96 prairiefire  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:06:00pm

OOhhh, Yes, President Obama just got beeped.

97 Kragar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:06:00pm

re: #91 Floral Giraffe

Sock it to me baby!

Shoot. Ask me for advice on anything.

98 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:06:13pm

re: #87 MandyManners

Talk by whom? Brain-dead idiots?!

Such violence!

Here's one example in USA TODAY:
[Link: www.usatoday.com...]

Should the Constitution be amended for Arnold?

Abolishing slavery. Giving women the vote. Establishing the income tax. Limiting presidents to two terms.(...)With a bit of encouragement from the Terminator himself, some of Schwarzenegger's supporters are pushing for a constitutional amendment that would allow the Austrian-born governor to run for the White House as soon as 2008.

99 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:06:32pm

re: #94 Floral Giraffe

Tonight?

When they mention Hendersonville I will pick up the phone. I think they're safe as long as they aren't driving.

100 Linden Arden  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:07:09pm

Obama roast is on!


Headlines later.

101 tnguitarist  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:07:31pm

re: #85 reine.de.tout

I just read that I-24 has been shut down.
How awful for these folks.

It's going to be down for a while. Watch the video. That's a house on the interstate.

102 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:07:43pm

re: #85 reine.de.tout

I just read that I-24 has been shut down.
How awful for these folks.

I worry about the hollows and valleys in Middle Tennessee, too.

My cousin's been up since the first siren sounded near her house at 3:00 a.m.. She spent the night in her shelter with her hubby and two young boys. Raellen told me that a bridge has washed out in Jackson and that there is a HUGE sink-hole near the regional trauma center.

103 prairiefire  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:07:54pm

Slammin the Jake man, ha.

104 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:08:04pm

re: #91 Floral Giraffe

Sock it to me baby!

Upding for the Laugh-In reference!

105 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:08:08pm

Only person who's ratings fell more than mine - glad to see you here Jay!

-the Prez

106 Renaissance_Man  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:08:25pm

re: #88 Nimed

I don't know about the "more power" part. Anyway, being President and a Media mogul aren't mutually exclusive.

The President and Congress are ultimately answerable to the media, because the media is their go-between between them and the voters. Their message, indeed, their very function as politicians, is at the mercy of the media.

When the media itself decides to dictate policy and shape the worldview of the voters, there is little politicians can do about it.

107 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:08:29pm

re: #90 NJDhockeyfan

I have family there! I need to make some phone calls in the morning.

Why not tonight? I doubt anyone is getting any sleep.

108 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:08:41pm

re: #95 Gus 802

Beaten to the punch...

109 reidr  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:08:43pm

re: #25 Nimed

Well, the Washington Post is kinda slowly transitioning into a conservative newspaper.

I was going to say, Washington needs a liberal newspaper! I hope DF wasn't seriously suggesting the Post is liberal....

Really, though, we need good newspapers, not newspapers that have some sort of ideological agenda.

110 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:08:58pm

re: #92 prairiefire

Agreed. The Obamas just showed her some love at the Correspondence dinner.

The way she treated Pres. Bush, it figures.

111 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:10:13pm

What are you guys watching??

112 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:10:25pm

re: #108 Nimed

Beaten to the punch...

Yeah, I see you used the same article. I remember the talk about amending the Constitution because of Schwarzenegger much of which was coming from the GOP. How times changes.

I happen to agree with Orin Hatch when he made that proposal and on that particular issue.

113 lostlakehiker  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:10:29pm

re: #21 jamesfirecat

Not a good blue print for success that is. Attila the Hun was able to take over just about all of Asia EXCEPT Afghanistan.

114 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:10:43pm

re: #111 marjoriemoon

What are you guys watching??

[Link: www.c-span.org...]

115 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:10:44pm

re: #109 reidr

I was going to say, Washington needs a liberal newspaper! I hope DF wasn't seriously suggesting the Post is liberal...

Really, though, we need good newspapers, not newspapers that have some sort of ideological agenda.

I was saying the Post is still left-of-center, though it is a sane and very respectable newspaper.

116 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:10:48pm

re: #111 marjoriemoon

What are you guys watching??

CSPAN - the WH correspondent's dinner!

117 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:10:57pm

re: #93 Dark_Falcon

Some of it was by folks here, some of whom are no longer here by other are. I think one such person may have been avanti, but I do not say that definitively.

Honest to goodness but, I don't recall that at all. He was re-elected in 2006.

118 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:11:17pm

re: #114 Gus 802

[Link: www.c-span.org...]

thank ye :)

119 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:11:40pm

re: #102 MandyManners

I worry about the hollows and valleys in Middle Tennessee, too.

My cousin's been up since the first siren sounded near her house at 3:00 a.m.. She spent the night in her shelter with her hubby and two young boys. Raellen told me that a bridge has washed out in Jackson and that there is a HUGE sink-hole near the regional trauma center.

That's some bad shit going on out there. Calling my aunt right now. I can't wait.

120 prairiefire  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:11:44pm

re: #111 marjoriemoon

What are you guys watching??

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Washington Correspondence Dinner.

121 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:11:49pm

re: #95 Gus 802

Oh, that's just a load of bullshit. Was Harch currying favor?

122 Linden Arden  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:12:04pm

Salidi's more unwelcome in a party than Charlie Crist.


That is good.

123 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:12:17pm

re: #120 prairiefire

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Washington Correspondence Dinner.

lol got it. The man's funny!

124 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:12:20pm

re: #98 Nimed

Such violence!

Here's one example in USA TODAY:
[Link: www.usatoday.com...]

Should the Constitution be amended for Arnold?

Abolishing slavery. Giving women the vote. Establishing the income tax. Limiting presidents to two terms.(...)With a bit of encouragement from the Terminator himself, some of Schwarzenegger's supporters are pushing for a constitutional amendment that would allow the Austrian-born governor to run for the White House as soon as 2008.

What violence?

125 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:12:52pm

re: #121 MandyManners

Oh, that's just a load of bullshit. Was Harch currying favor?

This was back when Schwarzenegger was fresh.

126 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:14:06pm

re: #106 Renaissance_Man

The President and Congress are ultimately answerable to the media, because the media is their go-between between them and the voters. Their message, indeed, their very function as politicians, is at the mercy of the media.

When the media itself decides to dictate policy and shape the worldview of the voters, there is little politicians can do about it.

I agree. But precisely because the press functions as a check on government power, the Media Baron+President combination is especially dangerous. It seems very odd from the outside that Italians repeatedly elect a buffoon like Berlusconi. The problem is, he owns half the Media outlets in Italy.

127 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:14:14pm

re: #97 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Shoot. Ask me for advice on anything.

Well, my boyfriends mother asked when we were going to get married, and I told her to ask her son when he was going to get divorced. What should I do?
He's a cheetah & I'm a giraffe, if that makes a difference!

128 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:14:25pm

Obama's doing pretty good here. Funny stuff. Now he's telling Politico jokes.

129 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:14:50pm

re: #99 NJDhockeyfan

When they mention Hendersonville I will pick up the phone. I think they're safe as long as they aren't driving.

When who mentions Hendersonville? It's a suburb of Nashville. Nashville's been smacked. So has Hendersonville.

130 jamesfirecat  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:15:09pm

re: #113 lostlakehiker

Did you have something to add or just GTMA?

131 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:15:39pm

re: #125 Gus 802

This was back when Schwarzenegger was fresh.

Once upon a time, in a land far, far, away.
He's kinda toasted, now.

132 Kragar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:16:14pm

re: #127 Floral Giraffe

Well, my boyfriends mother asked when we were going to get married, and I told her to ask her son when he was going to get divorced. What should I do?
He's a cheetah & I'm a giraffe, if that makes a difference!

Shout "Look! A HUGE DISTRACTING THING!" and while she is turned around, slip her a roofie into her drink. Then you wont have to put up with her shit. Repeat as necessary.

133 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:16:25pm

re: #131 Floral Giraffe

Once upon a time, in a land far, far, away.
He's kinda toasted, now.

Yeah. How soon they forget though. Gray Davis. If you know what I mean.

134 Sheepdogess  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:16:41pm

re: #96 prairiefire

OOhhh, Yes, President Obama just got beeped.

Class!

135 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:16:44pm

re: #81 NJDhockeyfan

Yesterday I was flipping arounf the radio dial in my car and Mark Levin was interviewing a guy who was on the oil rig when it exploded. It was a facinating interview. They have posted it on his website. It's worth a listen.

"James" - who was on the oil rig that blew in the Gulf - calls the Mark Levin Show and explains what occurred.

Levin was also prominently featured on Alex Jones sites claiming that SWAT teams were being sent to nationalize the oil industry. I have no interest in what he or his callers have to say about anything.

136 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:16:58pm

re: #132 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Shout "Look! A HUGE DISTRACTING THING!" and while she is turned around, slip her a roofie into her drink. Then you wont have to put up with her shit. Repeat as necessary.

*Dark Side Points Gained*

137 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:17:00pm

re: #131 Floral Giraffe

Once upon a time, in a land far, far, away.
He's kinda toasted, now.

Yep. He advanced too many initiatives and once and got blown away. He's been hobbled ever since.

138 Jadespring  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:17:06pm

re: #125 Gus 802

This was back when Schwarzenegger was fresh.

Yeah I remember that. He'd barely been elected and people were buzzing about 'what if?'

139 Linden Arden  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:17:25pm

re: #128 Gus 802

Obama's doing pretty good here. Funny stuff. Now he's telling Politico jokes.

Obama has better timing in his comedy than he does his fastball.

140 freetoken  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:18:03pm

High school principal calls wishing Obama dead ‘funny’

A New Hampshire high school principal is insisting her membership in a Facebook group lamenting that Barack Obama lived through his first year in office is all a big misunderstanding.

"I do not wish our president dead in any way," Principal Ronna Cadarette told Concord Monitor.

More than a million people have joined the Facebook group, which features an illustration of the president equating him with iconography of the Soviet Union.

A photograph from the page is above right.

The name of the group is: "Dear Lord, This Year You Took My Favorite Actor, Patrick Swazie (sic). You Took My Favorite Actress Farah (sic) Fawcett. You Took My Favorite Singer, Michael Jackson. I Just Wanted to Let You Know, My Favorite President is Barack Obama. Amen."

We've talked about that group before... someone here had received an invite or something.

141 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:18:13pm

re: #135 Killgore Trout

Levin was also prominently featured on Alex Jones sites claiming that SWAT teams were being sent to nationalize the oil industry. I have no interest in what he or his callers have to say about anything.

SOIL WATER ASSESSMENT TOOL TEAMS ARE COMING FOR US!11!!1!

142 prairiefire  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:18:14pm

"Do you know what tickles me? Eric Massa."

143 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:18:24pm

re: #124 MandyManners

What violence?

The "Brain-dead idiots" expression. It's hard to put ourselves in the 2004 state-of-mind, but remember the Governator was more or less admired by both sides of the political spectrum for a while.

And it's not like such an amendment is inherently crazy! Country of immigrants, land of opportunity and all that jazz.

144 prairiefire  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:18:53pm

re: #134 Sheepdogess

Class!

Maybe more class then Laura joking about George masturbating a horse?

145 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:19:13pm

re: #135 Killgore Trout

Levin was also prominently featured on Alex Jones sites claiming that SWAT teams were being sent to nationalize the oil industry. I have no interest in what he or his callers have to say about anything.

Quite Concur. Those who appear on the Alex Jones show automatically forfeit all credibility.

146 RadicalModerate  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:19:24pm

From Obama's speech:

[I'm popular on] "Facebook... Twitter... or as Sarah Palin calls it, Socialized Media"

147 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:19:33pm

re: #111 marjoriemoon

What are you guys watching??

The Weather Channel.

148 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:19:58pm

re: #115 Dark_Falcon

I was saying the Post is still left-of-center, though it is a sane and very respectable newspaper.

It still has Krauthammer.

149 Jadespring  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:20:14pm

re: #146 RadicalModerate

Hee. That's funny.

150 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:20:22pm

re: #119 NJDhockeyfan

That's some bad shit going on out there. Calling my aunt right now. I can't wait.

GREAT!!!!

151 Kragar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:20:31pm

re: #136 Varek Raith

*Dark Side Points Gained*

All deeds are sacred if done on behalf of the God-Emperor.

152 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:20:31pm

re: #144 prairiefire

Maybe more class then Laura joking about George masturbating a horse?

That's cool too. Now I have to find a video. =)

153 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:20:38pm

re: #141 Varek Raith

SOIL WATER ASSESSMENT TOOL TEAMS ARE COMING FOR US!11!!1!

HEAD FOR THE HILLZ!1 BUY GOLD!!1 bUY SURVIVAL SEEDS!!11

///

154 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:21:20pm

re: #151 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

All deeds are sacred if done on behalf of the God-Emperor.

Is that Dune or Warhammer 40K?

155 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:21:22pm

re: #125 Gus 802

This was back when Schwarzenegger was fresh.

I never jumped on his train.

156 Sheepdogess  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:21:26pm

re: #148 MandyManners

You have a problem with Charles Krauthammer.?

157 prairiefire  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:21:39pm

"God bless the United States of America."

158 Kragar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:22:14pm

re: #154 Dark_Falcon

Is that Dune or Warhammer 40K?

Warhammer

159 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:22:17pm

re: #127 Floral Giraffe

Well, my boyfriends mother asked when we were going to get married, and I told her to ask her son when he was going to get divorced. What should I do?
He's a cheetah & I'm a giraffe, if that makes a difference!

Don't put steak knives on your wedding registry.

160 jamesfirecat  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:22:18pm

re: #153 Dark_Falcon

HEAD FOR THE HILLZ!1 BUY GOLD!!1 bUY SURVIVAL SEEDS!!11

///

NON-HYBRID SURVIVAL SEEDS!

161 reidr  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:22:25pm

re: #144 prairiefire

Maybe more class then Laura joking about George masturbating a horse?

True but ew.

162 RadicalModerate  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:23:09pm

re: #140 freetoken

High school principal calls wishing Obama dead ‘funny’

We've talked about that group before... someone here had received an invite or something.

Good grief. A 4chan troll Facebook page gets this much press?
They were boasting about how many people they had suckered in on this two weeks ago.

163 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:23:19pm

re: #106 Renaissance_Man

The President and Congress are ultimately answerable to the media, because the media is their go-between between them and the voters. Their message, indeed, their very function as politicians, is at the mercy of the media.

When the media itself decides to dictate policy and shape the worldview of the voters, there is little politicians can do about it.

"Media" is a plural noun.

*whimper*

164 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:24:04pm

To Mandy Manners and Gus:

If Murdoch was younger, it's not impossible that he could get the support of the GOP. He is probably not socially conservative enough, and I don't really know his personal positions on the war. But it's not crazy on its face.

165 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:24:52pm

re: #162 RadicalModerate

Good grief. A 4chan troll Facebook page gets this much press?
They were boasting about how many people they had suckered in on this two weeks ago.

I suppose it would when most probably have no clue what 4chan is.

166 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:24:52pm

re: #158 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Warhammer

Cool.

167 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:24:55pm

Evening Honcos.

168 Locker  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:24:57pm

re: #140 freetoken

High school principal calls wishing Obama dead ‘funny’

We've talked about that group before... someone here had received an invite or something.

Laugh I just put that up on the linkage page. This woman and the half term warrior seem to have the same interpretation of free speech. I'm free to say whatever I want but you aren't free to speak any criticism of me.

169 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:25:16pm

re: #143 Nimed

The "Brain-dead idiots" expression. It's hard to put ourselves in the 2004 state-of-mind, but remember the Governator was more or less admired by both sides of the political spectrum for a while.

And it's not like such an amendment is inherently crazy! Country of immigrants, land of opportunity and all that jazz.

You call THAT violent?

Are you for real?

170 Sheepdogess  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:25:24pm

re: #160 jamesfirecat

It seems, from my personal experience, the fruits from many non-hybrid seeds fail about two days before their fruit is ready to harvest. UGH.

171 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:25:37pm

re: #101 tnguitarist

It's going to be down for a while. Watch the video. That's a house on the interstate.

Good grief.

172 freetoken  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:26:33pm

re: #164 Nimed

You do realize that Murdoch has papers that show full naked boobs prominently in their pages?

Don't think Dobson et. al. would go for that.

173 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:26:41pm

re: #156 Sheepdogess

You have a problem with Charles Krauthammer.?

Who? Me? No way!

How're you doing tonight? I've not seen you here for a little while.

174 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:26:52pm

re: #171 reine.de.tout

Good grief.

Allow me.

Holy shit.

175 reidr  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:27:03pm

re: #172 freetoken

You do realize that Murdoch has papers that show full naked boobs prominently in their pages?

Don't think Dobson et. al. would go for that.

No, but I'm starting to rethink my opinion of the man....

176 Jadespring  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:27:07pm

re: #170 Sheepdogess

It seems, from my personal experience, the fruits from many non-hybrid seeds fail about two days before their fruit is ready to harvest. UGH.

Fail? How?

177 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:27:53pm

re: #164 Nimed

To Mandy Manners and Gus:

If Murdoch was younger, it's not impossible that he could get the support of the GOP. He is probably not socially conservative enough, and I don't really know his personal positions on the war. But it's not crazy on its face.

I'd give you my opinion but, you'd think I was using violent language.

178 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:28:03pm

re: #175 reidr

No, but I'm starting to rethink my opinion of the man...

It's for profit, not pleasure.

179 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:28:12pm

re: #167 Cannadian Club Akbar

Evening Honcos.

'Sup, Homie?

180 bagua  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:28:21pm

re: #172 freetoken

You do realize that Murdoch has papers that show full naked boobs prominently in their pages?

Don't think Dobson et. al. would go for that.

That's an outrage, do you have a link?

181 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:28:37pm

re: #169 MandyManners

You call THAT violent?

Are you for real?

Well, you called the ones who defended the constitutional amendment "brain-dead idiots". Are you for real?

182 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:28:59pm

re: #180 bagua

That's an outrage, do you have a link?

Heh.

183 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:29:05pm

re: #180 bagua

That's an outrage, do you have a link?

Tsk, tsk.

184 Kragar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:29:07pm

re: #166 Dark_Falcon

Cool.

You've got to love any genre which has multipe strategic doctrines based on what type of genocide you which to inflict.

185 Sheepdogess  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:29:14pm

re: #173 MandyManners

I'm fine. How are you? It's been raining so I can't be out in the fields tilling and planting. So here I am for a few minutes anyway.

186 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:29:21pm

"Republicans don't want lesbians to get married but they sure do like to watch them tie the knot."

Jay Leno

(In reference to the "lesbian bondage" club incident.)

187 Locker  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:29:33pm

re: #170 Sheepdogess

It seems, from my personal experience, the fruits from many non-hybrid seeds fail about two days before their fruit is ready to harvest. UGH.

Is it the first hybrid result that exhibits hybrid vigor? 1F? I forget all that stuff.

188 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:29:36pm

re: #169 MandyManners

You call THAT violent?

Are you for real?

Nimed is very new, perhaps wondering what kind of bar he's wandered into.

189 Locker  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:30:11pm

re: #187 Locker

Ah found it: [Link: gears.tucson.ars.ag.gov...]

190 reidr  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:30:15pm

re: #178 Decatur Deb

It's for profit, not pleasure.

He takes the fun out of everything!

191 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:30:24pm

re: #83 MandyManners

Screwed-up priorities.

Or just panic, not doing a quick enough switch from normal to disaster thinking. I don't think any of them would have said 'my car is worth more than my life'.

192 freetoken  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:30:38pm

re: #180 bagua

re: #175 reidr

Page 3

And no, I'm not going to embed the pics.

193 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:30:50pm

re: #177 MandyManners

I'd give you my opinion but, you'd think I was using violent language.

:)
I'm a big boy. I can take it (I hope). What's wrong with a non-native citizen being eligible for President?

194 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:31:13pm

re: #87 MandyManners

Talk by whom? Brain-dead idiots?!

Lots of people wanted Ahnold to run for president.

195 Locker  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:31:16pm

re: #192 freetoken

re: #175 reidr

Page 3

And no, I'm not going to embed the pics.



A bookmark already exists for this page. Do you wish to overwrite?

196 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:31:28pm

re: #174 Varek Raith

Allow me.

Holy shit.

Much more appropriate.

197 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:31:32pm

re: #170 Sheepdogess

It seems, from my personal experience, the fruits from many non-hybrid seeds fail about two days before their fruit is ready to harvest. UGH.

Thank you for that info. It makes the Glenn Beck Show's advertisers even more of an EPIC FAIL.

198 Locker  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:32:06pm

re: #194 SanFranciscoZionist

Lots of people wanted Ahnold to run for president.

Well, I'd say he tries to be a social liberal and a fiscal conservative. I can't hate him for that even though he's constantly trying to strip me of pay and benefits.

199 Bagua  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:32:28pm

re: #192 freetoken

re: #175 reidr

Page 3

And no, I'm not going to embed the pics.

Yep, that's the one alright, thanks. I shall investigate this controversy thoroughly and report back to the clan.

200 reidr  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:32:29pm

re: #192 freetoken

re: #175 reidr

Page 3

And no, I'm not going to embed the pics.

This will no doubt be the highest-rated post in LGF history.

201 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:32:58pm

re: #199 Bagua

Yep, that's the one alright, thanks. I shall investigate this controversy thoroughly and report back to the clan.

In what, like 5 minutes?
//

202 Sheepdogess  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:33:06pm

re: #197 Dark_Falcon

Thank you for that info. It makes the Glenn Beck Show's advertisers even more of an EPIC FAIL.

They pimp seeds on Beck's show? Who knew?

203 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:33:34pm

re: #199 Bagua

Yep, that's the one alright, thanks. I shall investigate this controversy thoroughly and report back to the clan.

Do it so we don't have to.

204 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:34:21pm

Uh, Leno is not so great.

205 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:34:26pm

re: #181 Nimed

Well, you called the ones who defended the constitutional amendment "brain-dead idiots". Are you for real?

I won't back-track to the original posts but, I think you and I have had a bit of miscommunication.

206 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:34:40pm

re: #140 freetoken

High school principal calls wishing Obama dead ‘funny’

We've talked about that group before... someone here had received an invite or something.

Jeez. It was tacky when it was about Crist, and it remains tacky...and it won't die.

207 Sheepdogess  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:34:55pm

re: #204 Stanley Sea

He's no Johnny Carson, that's fer sure.

208 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:35:08pm

re: #144 prairiefire

Maybe more class then Laura joking about George masturbating a horse?

WHHAAAAATTT??!!!

I missed something.

209 freetoken  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:35:13pm

re: #204 Stanley Sea

Uh, Leno is not so great.

Too bad George Carlin isn't still alive to get invited to one of these things.

210 Linden Arden  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:35:35pm

re: #202 Sheepdogess

They pimp seeds on Beck's show? Who knew?

Colbert pimps Manseed 409!

211 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:35:43pm

re: #185 Sheepdogess

I'm fine. How are you? It's been raining so I can't be out in the fields tilling and planting. So here I am for a few minutes anyway.

Rain is liquid sunshine!!! (This was my mantra when I lived in Seattle and Portland.)

212 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:35:46pm

re: #141 Varek Raith

SOIL WATER ASSESSMENT TOOL TEAMS ARE COMING FOR US!11!!1!

Uh, OK, but I want them to be careful about the ducks.

213 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:35:53pm

re: #188 Decatur Deb

Nimed is very new, perhaps wondering what kind of bar he's wandered into.

Jesus. What do people around here usually call violent? "Brain-dead idiots" is fairly strong...

214 Jadespring  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:36:00pm

re: #197 Dark_Falcon

Thank you for that info. It makes the Glenn Beck Show's advertisers even more of an EPIC FAIL.

Please don't let Becks advertisers inform about anything to do with non-hybrid or hybrid seeds. Their 'marketing' is screwed, made for the paranoid, creationists and not a great thing to use in making judgments about them.

215 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:36:20pm

re: #209 freetoken

Too bad George Carlin isn't still alive to get invited to one of these things.

Frick, Colbert again!

216 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:36:25pm

re: #209 freetoken

Too bad George Carlin isn't still alive to get invited to one of these things.

No one in DC would be safe from his barbs, that's for sure.

217 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:37:00pm

re: #188 Decatur Deb

Nimed is very new, perhaps wondering what kind of bar he's wandered into.

I'm doing my best not to give him an atomic-wedgie 'cause those tender, Lizard scales just can't take it.

218 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:37:09pm

re: #215 Stanley Sea

Frick, Colbert again!

Don Rickles!

219 reidr  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:37:10pm

re: #209 freetoken

Too bad George Carlin isn't still alive to get invited to one of these things.

Now that would be awesome. How about some Richard Pryor while we're imagining?

220 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:37:15pm

re: #192 freetoken

re: #175 reidr

Page 3

And no, I'm not going to embed the pics.

But the Lady's from Coventry--they have traditions there.

221 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:37:18pm

re: #164 Nimed

To Mandy Manners and Gus:

If Murdoch was younger, it's not impossible that he could get the support of the GOP. He is probably not socially conservative enough, and I don't really know his personal positions on the war. But it's not crazy on its face.


He's not handsome enough to run.

222 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:37:42pm

re: #213 Nimed

Jesus. What do people around here usually call violent? "Brain-dead idiots" is fairly strong...

Actual calls of violence are not allowed here.

223 Kragar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:37:50pm

re: #213 Nimed

Jesus. What do people around here usually call violent? "Brain-dead idiots" is fairly strong...

For a high school student maybe. I can think of several much better terms, but they're contextual.

224 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:38:17pm

re: #205 MandyManners

I won't back-track to the original posts but, I think you and I have had a bit of miscommunication.

Fair enough. You were probably calling "brain-dead idiots" to the people who wanted to see Arnold as Prez. If that's what you meant, it's hard to disagree.

225 reidr  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:38:22pm

re: #213 Nimed

Jesus. What do people around here usually call violent? "Brain-dead idiots" is fairly strong...

That term is probably reserved for bombs and punches and Tarantino movies and such.

226 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:38:33pm

re: #191 SanFranciscoZionist

Or just panic, not doing a quick enough switch from normal to disaster thinking. I don't think any of them would have said 'my car is worth more than my life'.

If those people paid one bit of attention to their environment by listening to the news, they would not have been so surprised.

227 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:38:44pm

re: #213 Nimed

Jesus. What do people around here usually call violent? "Brain-dead idiots" is fairly strong...

The discourse does slip at times.

228 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:39:15pm

re: #193 Nimed

:)
I'm a big boy. I can take it (I hope). What's wrong with a non-native citizen being eligible for President?

Well, for one thing, the Constitution specifically prohibits it.

229 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:39:28pm

re: #194 SanFranciscoZionist

Lots of people wanted Ahnold to run for president.

I want a pony.

230 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:39:55pm

re: #228 MandyManners

Well, for one thing, the Constitution specifically prohibits it.

That thing? Please...
///

231 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:40:16pm

re: #198 Locker

Well, I'd say he tries to be a social liberal and a fiscal conservative. I can't hate him for that even though he's constantly trying to strip me of pay and benefits.

There was a lot of work done trying to make him look like a socon, which is pretty funny. Some of my father's friends from Russia were convinced he was a homophobe who would pass terrible anti-gay laws.

232 freetoken  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:40:26pm

After flyover, congressman downplays threat of oil spill

Rep. Gene Taylor, D-Miss., said oil from the massive spill in the Gulf of Mexico is "naturally breaking up as it’s heading to shore" and that he's less concerned about it after witnessing it firsthand.

"This isn't Katrina. It's not Armageddon," Taylor said. "A lot of people are scared, and I don't think they should be."

Taylor, along with Mississippi Department of Marine Resources Director Bill Walker and Rep. Jo Bonner, R-Ala., flew at 1,000 feet over the spill today on a Coast Guard twin-engine CASA 144.

He described the spill as a light, rainbow sheen with patches that looked like chocolate milk.


Rainbows... and chocolate milk... so why are we afraid of that big meanie oil spill?


233 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:40:55pm

re: #202 Sheepdogess

They pimp seeds on Beck's show? Who knew?

Hon-hybrid seeds, at extortionate rates. For when society collapses.

234 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:40:56pm

re: #207 Sheepdogess

He's no Johnny Carson, that's fer sure.

I'd give you a bazillion up-dings if I could.

I miss Johnny.

235 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:41:01pm

re: #229 MandyManners

I want a pony.

I got an email saying my Unicorn is on the way. It also said "Some assembly required". Not sure what that means.

236 freetoken  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:41:03pm

"Rainbows... and chocolate milk... so why are we afraid of that big meanie oil spill?" being my words, of course.

/hate it when that happens'

237 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:41:06pm

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

Yep. He advanced too many initiatives and once and got blown away. He's been hobbled ever since.

It's more that the unions have hamstrung him, IMO.

238 prairiefire  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:41:23pm

re: #204 Stanley Sea

Uh, Leno is not so great.

The funniest thing he has done lately is the Super Bowl commercial:

239 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:41:40pm

re: #228 MandyManners

Well, for one thing, the Constitution specifically prohibits it.

Right, hence the constitutional amendment. But the question stands.

240 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:41:45pm

re: #151 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

All deeds are sacred if done on behalf of the God-Emperor.

In bed.

242 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:41:58pm

re: #234 MandyManners

I'd give you a bazillion up-dings if I could.

I miss Johnny.

He's no Steve Allen.

243 reidr  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:42:01pm

This may sound woefully ignorant, but when was the last time the Constitution was amended? Can you imagine it ever being done again, for any reason? That would take an awful lot of agreement.

244 freetoken  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:42:32pm

From that link, the last sentence:

His advice is to "leave it alone and let nature take its course."

Nature didn't drill that well.

Maybe somebody should tell him?

245 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:42:37pm

re: #229 MandyManners

I want a pony.

I think your chances are better than his.

246 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:42:44pm

re: #224 Nimed

Fair enough. You were probably calling "brain-dead idiots" to the people who wanted to see Arnold as Prez. If that's what you meant, it's hard to disagree.

Well, now.

BTW, keep my No. 217 in mind.

247 Linden Arden  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:43:03pm

re: #243 reidr

This may sound woefully ignorant, but when was the last time the Constitution was amended? Can you imagine it ever being done again, for any reason? That would take an awful lot of agreement.

about 1976 or so.

And you are so right - it won't happen for many years.

248 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:43:20pm

re: #241 Killgore Trout

Live feed of the White house correspondents roast

Oops, just ending now.

249 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:43:28pm

re: #227 Decatur Deb

The discourse does slip at times.

Yeah, well, fuck you and your fucking discourse, fucking, man. Just, fuck.

250 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:43:33pm

re: #221 SanFranciscoZionist

He's not handsome enough to run.

There's probably some truth to that, unfortunately. Though I can't say I regret it in the specific case of Murdoch.

251 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:44:11pm

re: #230 Cannadian Club Akbar

That thing? Please...
///

Best document written by humans in the history of the Earth.

252 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:44:28pm

re: #248 Killgore Trout

Oops, just ending now.

Weak. It was pretty weak.

253 reidr  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:44:33pm

re: #249 MandyManners

Yeah, well, fuck you and your fucking discourse, fucking, man. Just, fuck.

Did you study debate in school? I think you literally kicked his ass.

254 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:44:45pm

re: #207 Sheepdogess

He's no Johnny Carson, that's fer sure.

There's a reason why Johnny Carson wanted David Letterman to succeed him, not Leno.

255 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:44:46pm
256 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:44:55pm

re: #251 MandyManners

Best document written by humans in the history of the Earth.

Really? Ever heard of Harry Potter?
///

257 Jadespring  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:44:58pm

re: #233 SanFranciscoZionist

Hon-hybrid seeds, at extortionate rates. For when society collapses.

The prices they're charging for them is stupid. (Well not from their perspective I guess if they can convince people to buy them at those prices) You can get the same ones from places like Vesey's and Burpee's for a quarter of the price. This year I even saw a couple of the varieties they peddle being sold in the local grocery store seed racks for 1.79 a package.

258 reidr  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:45:11pm

re: #247 Linden Arden

about 1976 or so.

And you are so right - it won't happen for many years.

What happened in 1976? Something to do with Elvis's death, I assume?

259 prairiefire  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:45:12pm

re: #251 MandyManners

Best document written by humans in the history of the Earth.

As long as it is a living one that is amended to fit the current needs of our nation.

260 Linden Arden  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:45:39pm

re: #243 reidr

This may sound woefully ignorant, but when was the last time the Constitution was amended? Can you imagine it ever being done again, for any reason? That would take an awful lot of agreement.

1971 - voting age change


1992 - compensation for Congressmen. (big deal)

had to look it up

261 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:45:52pm

re: #235 Cannadian Club Akbar

I got an email saying my Unicorn is on the way. It also said "Some assembly required". Not sure what that means.

The instructions are in Chinese so you must attach either the horn or the testicles.

262 Reginald Perrin  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:45:55pm

re: #232 freetoken

His advice is to "leave it alone and let nature take its course." With his head that far up his a$$, it's no wonder he can't see the threat the oil spill is posing.

263 Randall Gross  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:45:59pm

re: #247 Linden Arden

about 1976 or so.

And you are so right - it won't happen for many years.

I would wager within the next twenty years it will be amended to permit same sex marriage.

264 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:46:03pm

re: #258 reidr

What happened in 1976? Something to do with Elvis's death, I assume?

Didn't ERA try to get passed and failed? (sorry, can't remember)

265 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:46:15pm

re: #252 Stanley Sea

Weak. It was pretty weak.

I caught the end of Leno's bit. Not terribly funny or edgy. I can appreciate someone attempting edgy comedy at these things even if it's not funny but Leno achieved neither.

266 reidr  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:46:18pm

re: #259 prairiefire

As long as it is a living one that is amended to fit the current needs of our nation.

What, you got a problem with the Founding Fathers?

267 prairiefire  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:46:32pm

re: #263 Thanos

I would wager within the next twenty years it will be amended to permit same sex marriage.

As a woman, I really like my right to vote.

268 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:46:40pm

re: #213 Nimed

Jesus. What do people around here usually call violent? "Brain-dead idiots" is fairly strong...

You obviously haven't yet come across Cato the Elder, or Ludwig Van Quixote when he's on a roll about something . . . .

269 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:47:00pm

re: #261 MandyManners

The instructions are in Chinese so you must attach either the horn or the testicles.

I'll attach the horn, then hang the testes from it. Like a truck.:)

270 freetoken  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:47:29pm

The experts (which we all know can't be trusted...) say differently:

Gulf oil spill is 'the bad one'

This oil also emulsifies well, Overton said. Emulsification is when oil and water mix thoroughly together, like a shampoo, which is mostly water, said Penn State engineering professor Anil Kulkarni.
It "makes a thick gooey chocolate mousse type of mix," Kulkarni said.

And once it becomes that kind of mix, it no longer evaporates as quickly as regular oil, doesn't rinse off as easily, can't be eaten by oil-munching microbes as easily, and doesn't burn as well, experts said.

That type of mixture essentially removes all the best oil clean-up weapons, Overton and others said.

But the congressman says to let nature take it's course...

271 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:47:29pm

re: #239 Nimed

Right, hence the constitutional amendment. But the question stands.

The very question of an amendment in this case is beyond absurd.

272 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:47:30pm

Tommorow is my first experiment with Sous Vide and I'm not particularly looking forward to it. I have chicken stew in the fridge as a backup.

273 jvic  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:47:37pm

re: #24 freetoken

Since we're talking about religious organizations trying to influence society by controlling minds, I'll put here what I put in the Linkage:

New Zealand teacher sacked for teaching 'modern' Shakespeare

A New Zealand English teacher has been sacked for using a modern version of Shakespeare's King Lear dubbed "embarrassing, corrupting and morally defiling" by church administrators of her high school, a newspaper reported Sunday

It's examples like this one of the teacher in NZ that gives me pause from supporting any universal school voucher programs here. I don't want tax money going into flakey religious institutions.

Okay, the Exclusive Brethren sound like a cult, but that story felt a little odd. There's not much online about it, but I did find this:

Martin argued that Shakespeare's original, approved King Lear text also [boldface mine--jvic] contained offensive words but the committee decided she "had breached the ethos of the school".

Again, I concede that the EB sound like a cult, but I'd like to see the "offensive" words in the modern text before drawing conclusions on the standalone merits of the firing. (Sister-marryin' bitter clinger King Lear? Gangsta King Lear?)

274 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:47:45pm

re: #268 reine.de.tout

You obviously haven't yet come across Cato the Elder, or Ludwig Van Quixote when he's on a roll about something . . .

Agreed. Those two can get quite nasty when they fight.

275 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:47:48pm

re: #242 Decatur Deb

He's no Steve Allen.

*whack*

276 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:47:50pm

re: #267 prairiefire

As a woman, I really like my right to vote.

Fine. But no driving. (I knew this would happen)
/

277 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:48:19pm

re: #243 reidr

This may sound woefully ignorant, but when was the last time the Constitution was amended? Can you imagine it ever being done again, for any reason? That would take an awful lot of agreement.

1971.

278 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:48:30pm

re: #272 Killgore Trout

Tommorow is my first experiment with Sous Vide and I'm not particularly looking forward to it. I have chicken stew in the fridge as a backup.

Chicken!

279 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:48:48pm

re: #245 SanFranciscoZionist

I think your chances are better than his.

Better than Palin's.

280 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:48:49pm

re: #278 Floral Giraffe

Heh.

281 Silvergirl  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:49:08pm

re: #252 Stanley Sea

Weak. It was pretty weak.

Leno had to be swimming in flop sweat.

282 Linden Arden  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:49:09pm

re: #263 Thanos

I would wager within the next twenty years it will be amended to permit same sex marriage.

Well, I am in favor of Same Sex Marriage but to get 3/4 of the states to go for it is very problematical. (or is it 2/3rds?)

283 prairiefire  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:49:10pm

I think the two Samurai masters are Bagua and Austin Blue.

284 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:49:35pm

re: #253 reidr

Did you study debate in school? I think you literally kicked his ass.

Yeah, well, fuck you, too, man.

285 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:49:54pm

re: #254 Dark_Falcon

There's a reason why Johnny Carson wanted David Letterman to succeed him, not Leno.

YESSS!

286 mich-again  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:50:15pm

re: #243 reidr

This may sound woefully ignorant, but when was the last time the Constitution was amended? Can you imagine it ever being done again, for any reason? That would take an awful lot of agreement.


Who needs amendments when they're still trying to figure out what it already says.

287 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:50:27pm

re: #273 jvic

Again, I concede that the EB sound like a cult, but I'd like to see the "offensive" words in the modern text before drawing conclusions on the standalone merits of the firing. (Sister-marryin' bitter clinger King Lear? Gangsta King Lear?)

Heeh, heeh, he said "Goneril".

288 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:50:29pm

re: #256 Cannadian Club Akbar

Really? Ever heard of Harry Potter?
///

I plug my ears.

289 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:50:36pm

re: #274 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. Those two can get quite nasty when they fight.

Yes, but I get intelligence from them. There's so much to throwing out jabs without backup.

290 Linden Arden  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:50:37pm

re: #267 prairiefire

As a woman, I really like my right to vote.

As a man I like your right to vote.

291 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:50:45pm

Photos of just exactly what is in danger from this mess.

292 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:50:58pm

Last Constitutional amendment:

Twenty-seventh Amendment to the United States Constitution

The Twenty-seventh Amendment (Amendment XXVII) prohibits any law that increases or decreases the salary of members of the Congress from taking effect, until the start of the next set of terms of office for Representatives. It is the most recent amendment to the United States Constitution, having been ratified in 1992, more than 202 years after its initial submission in 1789.

No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.

293 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:51:08pm

Watching History Chanel. DAWN ad just ran about oil covered sea animals.

294 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:51:12pm

re: #268 reine.de.tout

You obviously haven't yet come across Cato the Elder, or Ludwig Van Quixote when he's on a roll about something . . .

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. This is the 2nd thread in which I comment, and the 1st was just to say hello.

295 reidr  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:51:36pm

re: #266 reidr

What, you got a problem with the Founding Fathers?

I'm glad you folks are learning when I mean "/" but forget to put it!

296 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:52:19pm

re: #294 Nimed

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. This is the 2nd thread in which I comment, and the 1st was just to say hello.

Some folks have a more colorful way of expressing themselves than others.

297 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:52:23pm

Equal Rights Amendment 1972.

298 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:52:29pm

re: #269 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'll attach the horn, then hang the testes from it. Like a truck.:)

Oh, the links I've seen here!

299 Kragar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:52:37pm

re: #295 reidr

I'm glad you folks are learning when I mean "/" but forget to put it!

Many a flame war has been started for lack of a /

300 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:53:05pm

re: #297 marjoriemoon

Equal Rights Amendment 1972.

Never made it.

301 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:53:10pm

re: #291 reine.de.tout

Photos of just exactly what is in danger from this mess.

The orange thingies are the "booms" they are using most ineffectively to try to contain the damage.

302 sagehen  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:53:11pm

re: #263 Thanos

I would wager within the next twenty years it will be amended to permit same sex marriage.

That won't need an amendment; some states will enact legislation, then some more, then some more, and eventually the Supremes will bat cleanup making the last few holdout states come around.

Just like happened with interracial marriage.

303 freetoken  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:53:19pm

re: #297 marjoriemoon

It's still sitting out there, in no-man'swomen's land... perhaps someday it will come out of the void.

304 sagehen  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:53:40pm

re: #264 Cannadian Club Akbar

Didn't ERA try to get passed and failed? (sorry, can't remember)

It passed Congress, but wasn't ratified by enough states.

305 jvic  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:53:45pm

re: #239 Nimed

Right, hence the constitutional amendment. But the question stands.

Fwiw: a long time ago I read somewhere that the requirement was established to prevent Albert Gallatin from running for President.

306 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:54:02pm

re: #294 Nimed

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. This is the 2nd thread in which I comment, and the 1st was just to say hello.

Have you figured out all the bells and whistles and buttons yet?

307 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:54:14pm

re: #304 sagehen

Thank you.

308 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:54:17pm

re: #293 Cannadian Club Akbar

Watching History Chanel. DAWN ad just ran about oil covered sea animals.

True story. Dawn isis a good product.

309 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:54:37pm

re: #300 Gus 802

Never made it.

Oh yea :(

310 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:54:39pm

re: #271 MandyManners

The very question of an amendment in this case is beyond absurd.

Again, in the Schwarznegger case, I agree. But in principle, a naturalized citizen could make a good President. And, in my opinion, it would very much in accordance with our country's ethos.

311 Randall Gross  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:55:18pm

re: #282 Linden Arden

Well, I am in favor of Same Sex Marriage but to get 3/4 of the states to go for it is very problematical. (or is it 2/3rds?)

I don't think it will be easy but I think it will happen either through amendment, or through court interpretation and inclusion of a new protected class.

312 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:55:23pm

re: #295 reidr

I'm glad you folks are learning when I mean "/" but forget to put it!

Grasshopper, WE don't learn about YOU.

313 freetoken  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:55:30pm

From the wikipedia article on the ERA:

On July 21, 2009, Representative Carolyn B. Maloney, Democrat from New York, introduced the ERA in the House of Representatives.

Since the old one had a timer, perhaps a new one someday will pass. Perhaps it will be combined with one for "sexual preference."

314 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:55:37pm

re: #297 marjoriemoon

Equal Rights Amendment 1972.

Failed.

315 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:55:52pm

re: #308 MandyManners

True story. Dawn isis a good product.

We need to go pour a bunch into the Gulf of Mexico right now.

316 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:55:54pm

re: #308 MandyManners

True story. Dawn isis a good product.

I know. I use it. Just the timing. I know they prolly buy ad space in blocks, but the actual commercial they run, I am sure, is their choice.

317 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:56:02pm

re: #313 freetoken

From the wikipedia article on the ERA:

Since the old one had a timer, perhaps a new one someday will pass. Perhaps it will be combined with one for "sexual preference."

That would be groovy.

318 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:56:39pm

re: #316 Cannadian Club Akbar

I know. I use it. Just the timing. I know they prolly buy ad space in blocks, but the actual commercial they run, I am sure, is their choice.

FWIW, I've been seeing these commercials before this disaster.

319 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:57:09pm

re: #318 Varek Raith

FWIW, I've been seeing these commercials before this disaster.

I have as well.

320 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:57:13pm

re: #296 reine.de.tout

Some folks have a more colorful way of expressing themselves than others.

Says our doe-eyed Queen of the Loosiana bayou!

321 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:57:43pm

re: #310 Nimed

Again, in the Schwarznegger case, I agree. But in principle, a naturalized citizen could make a good President. And, in my opinion, it would very much in accordance with our country's ethos.

I agree in principle regarding the citizenship requirements. However, I don't see a compelling reason for it now. It's something that might be considered far off in the future perhaps in another century.

322 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:57:49pm

re: #318 Varek Raith

FWIW, I've been seeing these commercials before this disaster.

Yeah, I was wondering the other night, apparently they've been running for a couple of years. I never noticed till now though. The sublim of advertising works.

323 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:57:55pm

re: #305 jvic

Fwiw: a long time ago I read somewhere that the requirement was established to prevent Albert Gallatin from running for President.

Interesting! It makes sense that it was something like that, since so many people at the time were foreign born.

324 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:57:58pm

re: #320 Floral Giraffe

Says our doe-eyed Queen of the Loosiana bayou!

LOL.
I thought that would be a nice way of putting it.

325 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:58:30pm

re: #296 reine.de.tout

Some folks have a more colorful way of expressing themselves than others.

FUCK YEAH CAPSLOCK!
Image: fuck_yeah_capslock.jpg
:)

326 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:58:31pm

re: #310 Nimed

Again, in the Schwarznegger case, I agree. But in principle, a naturalized citizen could make a good President. And, in my opinion, it would very much in accordance with our country's ethos.

No. The fact of the matter is, our Founders knew that there would always be a bit of loyalty to the nation in which one was born by dint of natural human feelings.

327 reidr  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:58:46pm

re: #312 MandyManners

Grasshopper, WE don't learn about YOU.

Don't make me get violent.... I've learned some new words in this thread and won't hesitate to use them.

328 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:58:48pm

re: #324 reine.de.tout

LOL.
I thought that would be a nice way of putting it.

*smooch*
It was a VERY elegant way of phrasing it!

329 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:59:14pm

re: #327 reidr

Don't make me get violent... I've learned some new words in this thread and won't hesitate to use them.

Cluebat?

330 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:59:20pm

re: #315 reine.de.tout

We need to go pour a bunch into the Gulf of Mexico right now.

Remember Madge in the Palmolive ads?

YOU'RE SOAKING IN IT!

331 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:59:28pm

re: #327 reidr

Don't make me get violent... I've learned some new words in this thread and won't hesitate to use them.

If Mandy mentions rope, hide. Trust me.:)

332 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:59:35pm

re: #306 reine.de.tout

Have you figured out all the bells and whistles and buttons yet?

I'm getting there. I realized just now that I can't "like" or "dislike" a comment until I have accumulated 50 comments.

333 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:59:48pm

re: #330 MandyManners

Remember Madge in the Palmolive ads?

YOU'RE SOAKING IN IT!

hahahaha!
I never believed those ads!
LOL.

334 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 7:59:58pm

re: #316 Cannadian Club Akbar

I know. I use it. Just the timing. I know they prolly buy ad space in blocks, but the actual commercial they run, I am sure, is their choice.

Ain't nothing wrong with Capitalism!!!

335 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:00:18pm

re: #318 Varek Raith

FWIW, I've been seeing these commercials before this disaster.

The bottles.

336 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:00:54pm

re: #332 Nimed

I'm getting there. I realized just now that I can't "like" or "dislike" a comment until I have accumulated 50 comments.

Did you try? I think the "50 before you can ding" went away!
Try it!

337 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:01:13pm

re: #332 Nimed

I'm getting there. I realized just now that I can't "like" or "dislike" a comment until I have accumulated 50 comments.

So, until you hit 50, we can make fun of you without getting a downding? Heh.

338 Randall Gross  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:01:19pm

re: #326 MandyManners

No. The fact of the matter is, our Founders knew that there would always be a bit of loyalty to the nation in which one was born by dint of natural human feelings.

...however Alisa Rosenbaum held no loyalty to the state she escaped from.

339 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:01:27pm

Foreign born signers of the Declaration of Independence

Button Gwinnett
Francis Lewis
Robert Morris
James Smith
George Taylor
Matthew Thornton
James Wilson
John Witherspoon

Origin: British Isles

[Link: www.nps.gov...]

340 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:01:38pm

re: #327 reidr

Don't make me get violent... I've learned some new words in this thread and won't hesitate to use them.

Oh, dear me. I think I'm gonna' like you, kid.

341 reidr  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:02:18pm

re: #329 Floral Giraffe

Cluebat?

"goneril" and "boom", actually.

342 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:02:26pm

re: #333 reine.de.tout

hahahaha!
I never believed those ads!
LOL.

I did. I don't know why but, I did.

343 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:03:38pm

re: #338 Thanos

...however Alisa Rosenbaum held no loyalty to the state she escaped from.

Makes no difference to me since Rand never tried to run for president.

344 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:03:45pm

re: #332 Nimed

I'm getting there. I realized just now that I can't "like" or "dislike" a comment until I have accumulated 50 comments.

You sure?
Charles did that for awhile, but I thought he enabled it again for newbies.

The "heart" button is one you can use to save favorite things. Up near the log-in (upper left), when you're logged in, to go "favorites" and you can see what you've saved, and even make your own tags for them so you can find them easier.

The exclamation point is used when you want to report a comment to Charles, either because it needs to be deleted or it needs to be recommended for some reason.

And most special:
If you click my nickname, you will go to the LGF Readers Cookbook Blog, where you can check out the newest cookbook, just finished last week, and you can buy your very own copy! Artwork is by our very own Jaunte; Cato wrote a poem for the back cover; and the inside has more artwork plus yummy recipes and a ROFLMAO section that will have you rolling on the floor laughing! And, remember, Mother's Day is coming up soon. Moms often like to cook.

345 reidr  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:03:54pm

re: #340 MandyManners

Oh, dear me. I think I'm gonna' like you, kid.

I kind of like your goneril, too. If I'm not being too forward....

346 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:04:08pm

re: #339 Gus 802

Foreign born signers of the Declaration of Independence

Origin: British Isles

[Link: www.nps.gov...]


Yep. But, none were eligible to become president.

347 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:04:08pm

The Basketball game is over.. I don't want to talk about it..
The new Rolling Stone Mag came today in the mail...I may just crawl up in the corner and read it.. It has a picture of Robert Downey Jr. on it....
It says...Hardass..Flake..SuperStar- and Iron man, too...
Who gives a crap..There is an article on Green day..My daughters favorite band...And Melissa Etheridge.. I've got to read that..Remember when I told you lizards when I met her at a Party in Napa? She is good people...one of the nicest girls I have ever met..And you know for a fact in a couple hours I'll be reading about Ke$ha..Confessions of a party animal...I love the Rolling Stone mag...

348 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:04:21pm

re: #336 Floral Giraffe

Did you try? I think the "50 before you can ding" went away!
Try it!

Thanks! I just dinged your comment, and it worked.

349 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:04:23pm

re: #345 reidr

I kind of like your goneril, too. If I'm not being too forward...

Sheesh, get a room!
/

350 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:04:42pm

re: #345 reidr

I kind of like your goneril, too. If I'm not being too forward...

Don't Lear at me, kid.

351 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:05:25pm

re: #347 HoosierHoops

My team won. Let's chat.
///

352 reidr  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:05:34pm

re: #348 Nimed

Thanks! I just dinged your comment, and it worked.

Yes, I could ding immediately, too. Big mistake, removing that policy.

353 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:05:58pm

BTW, I am not gonna' defend the validity of the Constitution's prohibition against foreign-born candidates for president.

354 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:06:32pm

re: #338 Thanos

...however Alisa Rosenbaum held no loyalty to the state she escaped from.

Actually neither did any of my grandparents.

355 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:06:53pm

re: #352 reidr

Yes, I could ding immediately, too. Big mistake, removing that policy.

You're post indicates that you've been reading LGF for a while.

356 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:06:55pm

re: #344 reine.de.tout

Cool! Thanks.

357 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:07:18pm

re: #355 MandyManners

You're post indicates that you've been reading LGF for a while.

Ain't nothing wrong about that.

Just sayin'.

358 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:07:43pm

re: #346 MandyManners

Yep. But, none were eligible to become president.

Right. Even though I think it could be changed in an academic or philosophical sense it's fine the way it is now.

359 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:08:12pm

re: #353 MandyManners

BTW, I am not gonna' defend the validity of the Constitution's prohibition against foreign-born candidates for president.

Well you're no fun.

360 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:09:02pm

re: #355 MandyManners

You're post indicates that you've been reading LGF for a while.

Heh, I first started reading LGF during Rathergate. Didn't register until Oct '09.
:)

361 reidr  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:09:03pm

re: #355 MandyManners

You're post indicates that you've been reading LGF for a while.

True, it's been several months now, but I remembering having ding powers immediately. I didn't even know it was ever a policy to have a waiting period.

362 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:09:19pm

Hmm... There's no "secret dinging ballot". You can see who liked AND DISLIKED your comments.

Very transparent, but I'd say that has the potential to cause some resentments.

363 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:09:34pm

re: #351 Cannadian Club Akbar

My team won. Let's chat.
///

Painful for me right now..
*wink*

364 lawhawk  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:10:12pm

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area - and word is coming down that the situation in Times Square may be a whole lot more sinister than first believed. What was first considered to be a car fire, may have been a failed terror attack with the finding of propane gas tanks and gas canisters in a Nissan Pathfinder that was left abandoned in the heart of Times Square.

365 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:10:29pm

re: #362 Nimed

Hmm... There's no "secret dinging ballot". You can see who liked AND DISLIKED your comments.

Very transparent, but I'd say that has the potential to cause some resentments.

Only if you let it get to you.
I have a policy of appreciating the updings; and ignoring the downdings.
It's only a downding. No one has ever been banned for getting downdinged.

366 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:10:30pm

This guy should be President. He celebrates the 4th of July!!

367 Randall Gross  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:10:32pm

I'll defend the constitution's prohibition against foreign born candidates simply because it's good to keep the conspiracy minded loons from suspecting foreign allegiance even if there were none...

// oh wait....

368 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:11:13pm

re: #364 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area - and word is coming down that the situation in Times Square may be a whole lot more sinister than first believed. What was first considered to be a car fire, may have been a failed terror attack with the finding of propane gas tanks and gas canisters in a Nissan Pathfinder that was left abandoned in the heart of Times Square.

Thanks for the update.

369 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:11:26pm

re: #364 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area - and word is coming down that the situation in Times Square may be a whole lot more sinister than first believed. What was first considered to be a car fire, may have been a failed terror attack with the finding of propane gas tanks and gas canisters in a Nissan Pathfinder that was left abandoned in the heart of Times Square.

Good gawd!
Floods in Tennessee, oil in the Gulf, and now this!

370 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:11:34pm

re: #348 Nimed

Thanks! I just dinged your comment, and it worked.

See! Now you can upding all of my comments!
/
That's a sacrasm tag.
Use it, if there's a POSSIBILITY that folks won't understand your sarcasm.
It will save you MANY downdings!

371 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:11:34pm

re: #367 Thanos

I'll defend the constitution's prohibition against foreign born candidates simply because it's good to keep the conspiracy minded loons from suspecting foreign allegiance even if there were none...

// oh wait...

McCain was born in Panama!11!!!!!

//

372 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:11:40pm

re: #362 Nimed

Hmm... There's no "secret dinging ballot". You can see who liked AND DISLIKED your comments.

Very transparent, but I'd say that has the potential to cause some resentments.

It originally was a "blind" vote, but then it was changed to make life more interesting.

373 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:12:43pm

re: #362 Nimed

Hmm... There's no "secret dinging ballot". You can see who liked AND DISLIKED your comments.

Very transparent, but I'd say that has the potential to cause some resentments.

Ah, don't worry about it. You'll find out soon enough how people react. You being a newbie though, watch out for those who will just poke at you because you are new.

374 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:12:53pm

re: #372 marjoriemoon

It originally was a "blind" vote, but then it was changed to make life more interesting.

Was it?
I don't recall that.

I only recall that those who want to, can turn it "off" in their profile, if they don't want to use it or see what their ding count is.

375 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:13:11pm

re: #369 reine.de.tout

Good gawd!
Floods in Tennessee, oil in the Gulf, and now this!

Lions and tigers and bears!
OH MY!
Lions and tigers and bears!

376 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:13:27pm

re: #358 Gus 802

Right. Even though I think it could be changed in an academic or philosophical sense it's fine the way it is now.

I have nothing against philosophy.

377 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:13:34pm

re: #371 Gus 802

McCain was born in Panama!11!!!

//

You know who else was born in Panama???
Zod.
Satan.
Hitler.
Palpatine.

378 lawhawk  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:13:35pm

re: #369 reine.de.tout

I saw photos of that flooding in TN - that's absolutely insane with the Interstate flooding and washing away cars like that.

And the situation with the oil slick is heartbreaking to all those who managed to survive Katrina and Rita and now may see their livelihood destroyed by the oil slicks...

379 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:13:42pm

re: #375 Floral Giraffe

Lions and tigers and bears!
OH MY!
Lions and tigers and bears!

Been a heckuva week.

380 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:14:09pm

re: #359 marjoriemoon

Well you're no fun.

That's the rumor!

381 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:14:16pm

re: #374 reine.de.tout

Was it?
I don't recall that.

I only recall that those who want to, can turn it "off" in their profile, if they don't want to use it or see what their ding count is.

I'm pretty sure in the beginning it was just a rating system, but then Charles changed it to show the names, if I'm recalling correctly.

382 freetoken  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:14:34pm

re: #378 lawhawk

I
And the situation with the oil slick is heartbreaking to all those who managed to survive Katrina and Rita and now may see their livelihood destroyed by the oil slicks...


Don't worry, it's all rainbows and chocolate milk. Just let nature take its course.

383 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:14:55pm

re: #378 lawhawk

I saw photos of that flooding in TN - that's absolutely insane with the Interstate flooding and washing away cars like that.

And the situation with the oil slick is heartbreaking to all those who managed to survive Katrina and Rita and now may see their livelihood destroyed by the oil slicks...

Somebody upthread posted a video of the interstate - there was a HOUSE floating on the interstate, past all the stalled cars and trucks, and it finally broke apart. A house.

It's a mess.

384 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:14:56pm

re: #360 Varek Raith

Heh, I first started reading LGF during Rathergate. Didn't register until Oct '09.
:)

For real?!

385 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:15:28pm

re: #381 marjoriemoon

I'm pretty sure in the beginning it was just a rating system, but then Charles changed it to show the names, if I'm recalling correctly.

You could be right, I just don't recall it, but then, I'm old.

386 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:15:32pm

re: #384 MandyManners

For real?!

For real.

I waz shy!

:)

387 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:15:53pm

re: #361 reidr

True, it's been several months now, but I remembering having ding powers immediately. I didn't even know it was ever a policy to have a waiting period.

So, why would you bring it up?

388 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:15:59pm

re: #386 Varek Raith

For real.

I waz shy!

:)

Could ya be shy again please?!!
///

389 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:16:20pm

re: #378 lawhawk

I saw photos of that flooding in TN - that's absolutely insane with the Interstate flooding and washing away cars like that.

And the situation with the oil slick is heartbreaking to all those who managed to survive Katrina and Rita and now may see their livelihood destroyed by the oil slicks...

And some of those folks with boats, the shrimpers, have taken a course on oil containment and safety, and they know their way around those marshes, and BP won't hire them.

390 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:16:43pm

re: #374 reine.de.tout

Was it?
I don't recall that.

I only recall that those who want to, can turn it "off" in their profile, if they don't want to use it or see what their ding count is.

Some systems (like Disqus) only have an upding button. The rationale is that downdings can discourage people from voicing controversial or minority opinions.

391 Jadespring  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:16:46pm

So I drove into the city yesterday to do some shopping. As a I was driving through one of the numerous small villages on the way I saw a sign outside one of the local pub/restaurants advertising their daily specials. I did a double take when I saw: "Wingnut Nite" Thursdays.

Huh? No way did I see that. So on the way back I checked and yep it was indeed, 'Wingnut Nite'. I had to stop and see what 'Wingnut' night was all about. End up it's, chicken wing special night, beer specials (of course) and free bowls of all you can eat peanuts.

"So nothing political or anything double entendrey?" I asked the waitress. She gave me a quizzical look back and said 'no, of course not, why would you ask that? I started laughing a bit and explained the other use of 'wingnut'. She thought it was a hoot and start laughing.

Anyways, it made a normally mundane drive much more amusing.

392 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:16:52pm

re: #389 reine.de.tout

And some of those folks with boats, the shrimpers, have taken a course on oil containment and safety, and they know their way around those marshes, and BP won't hire them.

What the fuck.

393 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:16:56pm

Car bomb forces evacuation of Times Square


Thousands of people have been evacuated from New York's Times Square, after a burning car was discovered to contain explosives.

A man seen fleeing the vehicle shortly before it caught fire, around 6pm local time.

The dark-coloured SUV contained propane, gasoline, explosives and burned wires, police told news agency Reuters.

394 Linden Arden  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:17:01pm

Andrea Mitchell is looking good for 62.

Call me crazy if you like.

395 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:17:02pm

re: #388 Cannadian Club Akbar

Could ya be shy again please?!!
///

Lol, zinged!

396 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:17:17pm

re: #389 reine.de.tout

And some of those folks with boats, the shrimpers, have taken a course on oil containment and safety, and they know their way around those marshes, and BP won't hire them.

Why? Because they don't want any locals to know the extent? Gosh, why?

397 reidr  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:17:29pm

re: #381 marjoriemoon

I'm pretty sure in the beginning it was just a rating system, but then Charles changed it to show the names, if I'm recalling correctly.

I like it this way. It really helps me pigeonhole people.

/

(That sounds kind of vulgar, now that I've said it five times fast.)

398 Randall Gross  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:17:42pm

re: #377 Varek Raith

(you left out Zardoz...)

399 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:17:52pm

re: #362 Nimed

Hmm... There's no "secret dinging ballot". You can see who liked AND DISLIKED your comments.

Very transparent, but I'd say that has the potential to cause some resentments.

GIMME' BACK MY BWANKIE!

400 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:17:57pm

re: #378 lawhawk

I saw photos of that flooding in TN - that's absolutely insane with the Interstate flooding and washing away cars like that.

And the situation with the oil slick is heartbreaking to all those who managed to survive Katrina and Rita and now may see their livelihood destroyed by the oil slicks...

Bayou la Batre (AL) barely made it halfway back from Katrina. This could kill it completely. Seafood is all they have.

401 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:17:59pm

re: #390 Nimed

Some systems (like Disqus) only have an upding button. The rationale is that downdings can discourage people from voicing controversial or minority opinions.

I don't like that, the upding only. The news services use that, I see. Although I hardly downding. I have to feel pretty passionate about something usually.

402 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:18:10pm

re: #398 Thanos

(you left out Zardoz...)

Good grief, how could I have forgotten?!?!

403 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:18:21pm

re: #390 Nimed

Some systems (like Disqus) only have an upding button. The rationale is that downdings can discourage people from voicing controversial or minority opinions.

Not. A. Problem. At. LGF.

On the right had side, under the log-in area, you can go see the top dinged comments, and the lowest dinged comments.

A couple of weeks ago, a commenter swept the bottom ten - he had them all.
He's still around. And could be in the top ten next week.

404 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:18:35pm

re: #391 Jadespring

So I drove into the city yesterday to do some shopping. As a I was driving through one of the numerous small villages on the way I saw a sign outside one of the local pub/restaurants advertising their daily specials. I did a double take when I saw: "Wingnut Nite" Thursdays.

Huh? No way did I see that. So on the way back I checked and yep it was indeed, 'Wingnut Nite'. I had to stop and see what 'Wingnut' night was all about. End up it's, chicken wing special night, beer specials (of course) and free bowls of all you can eat peanuts.

"So nothing political or anything double entendrey?" I asked the waitress. She gave me a quizzical look back and said 'no, of course not, why would you ask that? I started laughing a bit and explained the other use of 'wingnut'. She thought it was a hoot and start laughing.

Anyways, it made a normally mundane drive much more amusing.

That is so cool that you asked!

405 lawhawk  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:18:43pm

ABC News is reporting that this was definitely not an accident in Times Square; Jim Dolan reporting that this was an intentional act, and was likely a failed mass casualty attack (so far avoiding calling it a terror attack).

406 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:19:03pm

Times Sq evacuation was for failed explosive device

Thank god these fuckers can't make a decent bomb.

407 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:19:30pm

Damn, what a crazy week...

408 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:19:42pm

re: #405 lawhawk

ABC News is reporting that this was definitely not an accident in Times Square; Jim Dolan reporting that this was an intentional act, and was likely a failed mass casualty attack (so far avoiding calling it a terror attack).

Track them down. Send 'em to Supermax.

409 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:19:51pm

re: #391 Jadespring

So I drove into the city yesterday to do some shopping. As a I was driving through one of the numerous small villages on the way I saw a sign outside one of the local pub/restaurants advertising their daily specials. I did a double take when I saw: "Wingnut Nite" Thursdays.

Huh? No way did I see that. So on the way back I checked and yep it was indeed, 'Wingnut Nite'. I had to stop and see what 'Wingnut' night was all about. End up it's, chicken wing special night, beer specials (of course) and free bowls of all you can eat peanuts.

"So nothing political or anything double entendrey?" I asked the waitress. She gave me a quizzical look back and said 'no, of course not, why would you ask that? I started laughing a bit and explained the other use of 'wingnut'. She thought it was a hoot and start laughing.

Anyways, it made a normally mundane drive much more amusing.

Come on!! Everyone knows that Wingnut Nite is on Friday!

410 Bagua  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:19:54pm

re: #405 lawhawk


Any word yet if there were any Republicans involved?

411 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:20:34pm

re: #405 lawhawk

ABC News is reporting that this was definitely not an accident in Times Square; Jim Dolan reporting that this was an intentional act, and was likely a failed mass casualty attack (so far avoiding calling it a terror attack).

When I first saw the story I assumed it was just an empty box or something left lying around. Looks like this story has legs. Thanks for the updates.

412 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:20:43pm

re: #386 Varek Raith

For real.

I waz shy!

:)

I'll say!

413 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:21:18pm

re: #410 Bagua

Any word yet if there were any Republicans involved?

What?

414 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:21:37pm

re: #390 Nimed

Some systems (like Disqus) only have an upding button. The rationale is that downdings can discourage people from voicing controversial or minority opinions.

Some people need to pull themselve up by their boot-straps and BE AMERICANS.

415 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:21:37pm

re: #392 Cannadian Club Akbar

What the fuck.

Jindal is fed up with BP.

Gov. Bobby Jindal said 12 days into the explosion and spill, the state is past the point of waiting for cleanup plans from BP.

The comments were made during a news conference Saturday afternoon in which the governor passed on the latest information on efforts to shut off the leak and keep more oil from reaching land.

"We continue to be concerned about BP's ability to respond to this incident," Jindal said. "As we continue to work with local leaders on the ground, we are focused on forward-leaning and proactive action. I want to be very clear on this point – this incident is not just about our coast. It is fundamentally about our way of life in Louisiana."

Jindal talked about a 'second line of defense' to keep the oil from last week's spill from creeping onto land, including the use of rocks and debris, in addition to booms currently being used to contain the oil. He is meeting with parish presidents and public safety officials in coastal parishes to further solidify plans to protect the area.

"We are past the point of waiting for any clean up plans from BP or the Incident Commander. We have already begun developing contingency plans for parishes – meaning we are preparing detailed secondary response capabilities to protect our land and our people. We are developing those plans ourselves and we need two things to implement these plans – funding approval from BP and authorization from the Incident Commander," Jindal explained.

He emphasized the importance of using Louisiana fisherman to help with putting in booms to help contain the oil currently washing up along the state's coastline. Jindal also announced the Louisiana National Guard has been activated and 600 guardsmen are currently on the ground to assist in many different capacities to help with the cleanup.

"We are asking that for these contingency plans to be approved so we are no longer in the position of requesting boom by the foot for one particular place or another. We want to empower local officials on the ground with the knowledge and the know-how to best protect their communities," Jindal said.

416 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:21:49pm

Times Square Camera from Earth Cam

[Link: www.earthcam.com...]

417 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:22:07pm

re: #396 Stanley Sea

Why? Because they don't want any locals to know the extent? Gosh, why?

It doesn't make any sense.

418 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:22:12pm

re: #410 Bagua

The device sounds like an air-gas bomb like the one that was attempted in London before the Glasgow airport incident. Sounds like RoP to me but anything is possible at this point.

419 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:22:16pm

re: #413 Stanley Sea

What?

Attempt at humor fail, me thinks. Or an incomplete thought.

420 Jadespring  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:22:25pm

re: #404 Stanley Sea

That is so cool that you asked!

My curiosity got the best of me. I knew if I didn't I'd spend the whole rest of the drive wondering about it. Plus it just struck me as really funny.

421 Bagua  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:22:52pm

re: #413 Stanley Sea

What?

Not funny?

422 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:23:05pm

re: #403 reine.de.tout

Not. A. Problem. At. LGF.

On the rightleft hand side, under the log-in area, you can go see the top dinged comments, and the lowest dinged comments.

A couple of weeks ago, a commenter swept the bottom ten - he had them all.
He's still around. And could be in the top ten next week.

Amazing.
I still don't know my right from my left.

423 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:23:12pm

re: #399 MandyManners

GIMME' BACK MY BWANKIE!

Don't make me downding you. I swear to God, I will push that button.

424 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:23:26pm

re: #406 Killgore Trout

Times Sq evacuation was for failed explosive device

Thank god these fuckers can't make a decent bomb.

Yet.

425 Renaissance_Man  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:23:31pm

re: #422 reine.de.tout

Amazing.
I still don't know my right from my left.

And yet you comment on a political blog.

426 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:23:41pm

re: #418 Killgore Trout

The device sounds like an air-gas bomb like the one that was attempted in London before the Glasgow airport incident. Sounds like RoP to me but anything is possible at this point.

Reading propane tanks now.

427 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:23:44pm

Just spoke to my aunt & uncle in Hendersonville. All the family members are fine right now. The only damage seems to be my cousin's garden. They planted it last weekend and it got washed away today. Glad that's the extent of the damage. Gardens can be replanted.

428 reidr  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:23:56pm

re: #421 Bagua

Not funny?

That (and the replies) was so bizarrely unfunny that I can't stop laughing!

429 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:24:47pm

re: #415 reine.de.tout

Jindal is feeling the love of some publicity.
And, frustration at the way this oil disaster is going down.
It's too bad that the weather isn't cooperating.

430 reidr  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:24:51pm

re: #425 Renaissance_Man

And yet you comment on a political blog.

Picked the right one, at least....

431 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:24:58pm

re: #422 reine.de.tout

Remember the shoes that had right/left on the toes? I had a pair. My thought was, "well this doesn't help at all". Heh.

432 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:25:13pm

re: #389 reine.de.tout

And some of those folks with boats, the shrimpers, have taken a course on oil containment and safety, and they know their way around those marshes, and BP won't hire them.

BP would be responsible for them and all their errors. They would be responsible for any and all discrimation those folks committed. They would be responsible for making sure that they all followed OSHA guidelines.

BP would be responsible for making sure that each and every deed they did was in line with the laws governing BP.

433 Bagua  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:25:20pm

re: #418 Killgore Trout

The device sounds like an air-gas bomb like the one that was attempted in London before the Glasgow airport incident. Sounds like RoP to me but anything is possible at this point.

Yes, though the 3 news mentioned "explosives" so it could be a hybrid.

434 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:25:41pm

re: #427 NJDhockeyfan

Good news! Thanks for the update.

435 Randall Gross  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:25:59pm

re: #418 Killgore Trout

The device sounds like an air-gas bomb like the one that was attempted in London before the Glasgow airport incident. Sounds like RoP to me but anything is possible at this point.

My thoughts as well, although it's way to early for anything other than wild speculation - it could be anyone.

436 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:25:59pm

re: #420 Jadespring

My curiosity got the best of me. I knew if I didn't I'd spend the whole rest of the drive wondering about it. Plus it just struck me as really funny.

Isn't that the truth. You'd always wonder. Now go and order some wings!

437 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:26:10pm

re: #425 Renaissance_Man

And yet you comment on a political blog.

Ren Man - you do have a sense of humor!

438 Bagua  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:26:19pm

re: #428 reidr

That (and the replies) was so bizarrely unfunny that I can't stop laughing!

Thank god there's finally a reader here who finds me funny.

439 Jadespring  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:26:59pm

re: #436 Stanley Sea

Isn't that the truth. You'd always wonder. Now go and order some wings!

I would, except I don't really like chicken wings. :)

440 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:27:01pm

re: #428 reidr

That (and the replies) was so bizarrely unfunny that I can't stop laughing!

That's the bestest part of LGF!
Interesting, you learn something ( Or, you get schooled) and it's a RIOT!
Welcome to the fray!

441 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:27:06pm

re: #421 Bagua

Not funny?

I don't get it, but I'm slow sometimes.
Don't be martyring on us or anything - that was my first thought.

442 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:27:35pm

re: #423 Nimed

Don't make me downding you. I swear to God, I will push that button.

And I'll grab a large swath of your undies and pull it up to your fucking fore-head!!!!

443 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:28:04pm

re: #442 MandyManners

And I'll grab a large swath of your undies and pull it up to your fucking fore-head!!!

In bed.

444 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:28:08pm

re: #439 Jadespring

I would, except I don't really like chicken wings. :)

That's un-american!!
///

445 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:28:09pm

re: #282 Linden Arden

Well, I am in favor of Same Sex Marriage but to get 3/4 of the states to go for it is very problematical. (or is it 2/3rds?)

Nate Silver says that Mississippi will be the last state to legalize same-sex marriage, in or about 2024.

446 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:28:42pm

re: #432 MandyManners

BP would be responsible for them and all their errors. They would be responsible for any and all discrimation those folks committed. They would be responsible for making sure that they all followed OSHA guidelines.

BP would be responsible for making sure that each and every deed they did was in line with the laws governing BP.

Mandy - they have to hire or contract with somebody. BP doesn't have the manpower needed to do what has to be done. These folks are ready to move, and have an incentive - it's their livelihood at stake. They have a few months to make their income for the entire year.

447 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:28:50pm

re: #443 Floral Giraffe

In bed.

*blush*

448 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:28:56pm

re: #431 Cannadian Club Akbar

Remember the shoes that had right/left on the toes? I had a pair. My thought was, "well this doesn't help at all". Heh.

That would be me, too!

449 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:28:59pm

re: #429 Floral Giraffe

Jindal is feeling the love of some publicity.
And, frustration at the way this oil disaster is going down.
It's too bad that the weather isn't cooperating.

The NY Times blasted the WH today comparing their slow response to the Exxon Valdez & Katrina disasters.

450 Linden Arden  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:29:03pm

Damnit! Its a repeat on SNL.

Pathetic when you wish for Kristen Wiig to make your Saturday night for you.

451 Jadespring  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:29:15pm

re: #444 Cannadian Club Akbar

That's un-american!!
///

No problem then. I'm not American. ;)

452 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:29:23pm

re: #446 reine.de.tout

Mandy - they have to hire or contract with somebody. BP doesn't have the manpower needed to do what has to be done. These folks are ready to move, and have an incentive - it's their livelihood at stake. They have a few months to make their income for the entire year.

So, what's the problem?!

453 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:29:25pm

re: #448 reine.de.tout

That would be me, too!

But, I was 4.:)

454 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:29:49pm

re: #315 reine.de.tout

We need to go pour a bunch into the Gulf of Mexico right now.

I think that's what the planes were authorized for--they dump something quite similar.

455 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:29:49pm

re: #451 Jadespring

No problem then. I'm not American. ;)

I know. Hence the joke.:)

456 lawhawk  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:29:51pm

re: #411 Killgore Trout

Well, the first reports were saying that it was a car fire - and that's a pretty common occurrence. But the fire department must have seen something they didn't like to call in the bomb squad - turns out they were right - with gas canisters and flammables in the trunk. The Marriott Marquis is blockaded since its entrance faces out onto the location; security cordon has been pushed back further. Pretty much the central area of Times Square is cordoned off.

Considering that quite a few New Yorkers (think Zazi probe, or the arrest of two from Brooklyn with indictments handed down yesterday) have been indicted, entered plea deals, or convicted of terrorism and providing material support for al Qaeda, it was probably a matter of time before someone tried something.

457 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:29:58pm

re: #445 SanFranciscoZionist

Nate Silver says that Mississippi will be the last state to legalize same-sex marriage, in or about 2024.

"Thank God for Mississippi" (Alabama state motto)

458 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:30:02pm

CBS News Live Feed

[Link: wcbstv.com...]

459 reidr  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:30:17pm

re: #442 MandyManners

And I'll grab a large swath of your undies and pull it up to your fucking fore-head!!!

Get a room, you two!

460 paulfromatlanta  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:30:22pm

I never have have understood motive here - the Unification church is supposed to have put up to $2 billion into this paper - how did they possible expect to get equal benefit in return?

There has a to be a piece missing.

461 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:30:25pm

re: #425 Renaissance_Man

And yet you comment on a political blog.

This is a political blog? Shit..I must have taken a wrong left turn

462 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:30:37pm

re: #457 Decatur Deb

"Thank God for Mississippi" (Alabama state motto)

*whack*

463 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:30:49pm

re: #446 reine.de.tout

Mandy - they have to hire or contract with somebody. BP doesn't have the manpower needed to do what has to be done. These folks are ready to move, and have an incentive - it's their livelihood at stake. They have a few months to make their income for the entire year.

And really, should we leave it up to the offending company to handle, only because we want them to pay for it?

464 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:30:58pm

re: #326 MandyManners

No. The fact of the matter is, our Founders knew that there would always be a bit of loyalty to the nation in which one was born by dint of natural human feelings.

Dunno about that. Think about Thomas Paine, for example.

465 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:30:59pm

re: #459 reidr

Get a room, you two!

I might like you, too.

466 lawhawk  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:31:31pm

re: #418 Killgore Trout

Thermobaric weapons are extremely tricky to make even under the best of circumstances. The thing is that loading up the truck with a bunch of gas canisters could have had deadly consequences; we dodged a bullet.

467 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:31:32pm

re: #449 NJDhockeyfan

The NY Times blasted the WH today comparing their slow response to the Exxon Valdez & Katrina disasters.

Good grief.
The President has done all he can do at this point, with this thing.
It was silly when people said this about Bush during Katrina; and it's silly now.
argh.

468 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:31:46pm

re: #461 HoosierHoops

This is a political blog? Shit..I must have taken a wrong left turn

You better not go left!!!
/

469 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:31:59pm

re: #464 SanFranciscoZionist

Dunno about that. Think about Thomas Paine, for example.

Journalist!

470 Renaissance_Man  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:32:01pm

re: #437 reine.de.tout

Ren Man - you do have a sense of humor!

Shh, or everyone will want one.

471 reidr  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:32:27pm

re: #461 HoosierHoops

This is a political blog? Shit..I must have taken a wrong left turn

Cripes, I thought this was an eharmony chat room.... Can I bulk cancel my posts?

472 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:32:34pm

re: #354 marjoriemoon

Actually neither did any of my grandparents.

My mother's grandmother once taught her a dessert recipe, and commented, "You see? There were some good things about the old country."

473 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:32:35pm

re: #452 MandyManners

So, what's the problem?!

Dunno.
I think BP is overwhelmed by the scope of this thing.

474 Randall Gross  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:32:36pm

re: #456 lawhawk

Well, the first reports were saying that it was a car fire - and that's a pretty common occurrence. But the fire department must have seen something they didn't like to call in the bomb squad - turns out they were right - with gas canisters and flammables in the trunk. The Marriott Marquis is blockaded since its entrance faces out onto the location; security cordon has been pushed back further. Pretty much the central area of Times Square is cordoned off.

Considering that quite a few New Yorkers (think Zazi probe, or the arrest of two from Brooklyn with indictments handed down yesterday) have been indicted, entered plea deals, or convicted of terrorism and providing material support for al Qaeda, it was probably a matter of time before someone tried something.

Now 200 stories out there, all pretty much thin as the ones linked above. It's gone international story now.

475 Linden Arden  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:32:42pm

re: #460 paulfromatlanta

I never have have understood motive here - the Unification church is supposed to have put up to $2 billion into this paper - how did they possible expect to get equal benefit in return?

There has a to be a piece missing.

They value propaganda at a few billion $.

476 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:32:48pm

re: #458 Gus 802

CBS News Live Feed

[Link: wcbstv.com...]

Mary? Ohh Marry???

477 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:32:48pm

re: #456 lawhawk

Well, the first reports were saying that it was a car fire - and that's a pretty common occurrence. But the fire department must have seen something they didn't like to call in the bomb squad - turns out they were right - with gas canisters and flammables in the trunk. The Marriott Marquis is blockaded since its entrance faces out onto the location; security cordon has been pushed back further. Pretty much the central area of Times Square is cordoned off.

Considering that quite a few New Yorkers (think Zazi probe, or the arrest of two from Brooklyn with indictments handed down yesterday) have been indicted, entered plea deals, or convicted of terrorism and providing material support for al Qaeda, it was probably a matter of time before someone tried something.

That must be a big old mess. The Marriot Marquis is a very large hotel. Not a bad one, just could be nicer. But it's BIG.

478 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:32:51pm

re: #442 MandyManners

And I'll grab a large swath of your undies and pull it up to your fucking fore-head!!!

Not exactly my idea of foreplay, but we can make it work.

479 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:33:06pm

re: #453 Cannadian Club Akbar

But, I was 4.:)

Yikes!
And I'm 57.
argh.

480 Renaissance_Man  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:33:18pm

re: #461 HoosierHoops

This is a political blog? Shit..I must have taken a wrong left turn

So say many of the stalkers, I understand.

481 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:33:41pm

re: #478 Nimed

Not exactly my idea of foreplay, but we can make it work.

Redneck foreplay:
"Get in the truck, bitch".
/

482 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:33:49pm

Here's the ultimate catastrophe for NWO goons.

The New Madrid Fault Zone has a massive quake within the next 36 hours.

483 Bagua  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:34:30pm

Fox news is on the ball, and informs us that the car was suspicious.

A police robot found "clothes, racks and scarves" inside.

484 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:34:33pm

re: #434 Floral Giraffe

Good news! Thanks for the update.

My aunt said the lake hasn't flooded so the TVA is probable letting out a lot of water to prevent massive flooding from the lake. To do that they let more water into the Cumberland River exacerbating the flooding problems related to that river. What a fucking mess.

485 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:34:34pm

Now I'm gonna have erotic horror nightmares about KSM giving me a wedgie.

486 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:34:35pm

re: #468 Cannadian Club Akbar

You better not go left!!!
/

The nice thing about being a moderate Indy these days is I get to make fun of the Left and Right equally..

487 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:34:38pm

re: #476 marjoriemoon

Mary? Ohh Marry???

Yeah. CBS and I almost said "Hello Dan Rather."

/

488 Reginald Perrin  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:34:53pm

re: #454 SanFranciscoZionist

I think that's what the planes were authorized for--they dump something quite similar.

There may soon be a supply problem with the dispersant. There isn't that large of an inventory and they have already used up a large percentage of the world wide reserves.

489 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:35:13pm

re: #473 reine.de.tout

Dunno.
I think BP is overwhelmed by the scope of this thing.

So do I.

But, it's their well. It's their problem.

490 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:35:15pm

re: #481 Cannadian Club Akbar

Redneck foreplay:
"Get in the truck, bitch".
/

Redneck bitch's answer.
"Here, tie yourself to the bumper. THEN we can talk."

491 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:35:27pm

re: #488 Reginald Perrin

There may soon be a supply problem with the dispersant. There isn't that large of an inventory and they have already used up a large percentage of the world wide reserves.

Really? Foresight fail.

492 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:35:38pm

re: #463 Stanley Sea

And really, should we leave it up to the offending company to handle, only because we want them to pay for it?

It's their responsibility to clean it up.
Louisiana, like other states, is operating on a shoestring budget.
BP says they're spending $7 million a day on this, and not getting anywhere.

Jindal wants to move, but he wants BP assurance they will reimburse the state, which BP should do.

But Jindal may need to proceed without that assurance.

493 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:35:50pm

re: #478 Nimed

Not exactly my idea of foreplay, but we can make it work.

You little snot, you!

494 Randall Gross  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:36:12pm

re: #483 Bagua

Fox news is on the ball, and informs us that the car was suspicious.

A police robot found "clothes, racks and scarves" inside.

Clothes racks and scarves were from the prior incident I think. Stories seem to be getting muddled.

Here's links to the local stories:
[Link: news.google.com...]

495 Bagua  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:36:21pm

re: #489 MandyManners

So do I.

But, it's their well. It's their problem.

An Haliburton's problem, among others.

496 lawhawk  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:36:31pm

re: #477 Floral Giraffe

Yes - it's got a huge catering facility that can handle 1,500 people at one time; a revolving restaurant that handles several hundred people, and 1,949 rooms.

Oh, and several theater spaces. And that's just one of several facilities that are being affected tonight.

497 freetoken  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:36:47pm

Evidently not willing to let their reputation be diminished, the commenters at HotWingNuts are all over this NYC failed bomb fire.

Amazing amount of axes to grind.

498 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:37:06pm

re: #493 MandyManners

You little snot, you!

Show him that cherry stem tied in a knot thingy you do.
/

499 Linden Arden  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:37:07pm

re: #488 Reginald Perrin

There may soon be a supply problem with the dispersant. There isn't that large of an inventory and they have already used up a large percentage of the world wide reserves.

I bought stock in Cameron - the maker of the Blow Out Preventer on Thu.

The BOP was 8-10 years old and the CAM fell 20% out of panic selling.

500 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:37:26pm

re: #477 Floral Giraffe

That must be a big old mess. The Marriot Marquis is a very large hotel. Not a bad one, just could be nicer. But it's BIG.

I've eaten at the rotating restaurant on top back in the 80s. What a great meal.

501 lawhawk  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:37:42pm

re: #483 Bagua

The clothes, racks, and scarves were from the prior incident in December.

502 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:37:52pm

re: #488 Reginald Perrin

There may soon be a supply problem with the dispersant. There isn't that large of an inventory and they have already used up a large percentage of the world wide reserves.

Dawn to the rescue, then?

503 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:38:00pm

re: #488 Reginald Perrin

There may soon be a supply problem with the dispersant. There isn't that large of an inventory and they have already used up a large percentage of the world wide reserves.

I suppose just spraying Dawn doesn't work as well?

504 [deleted]  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:38:10pm
505 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:38:14pm

re: #489 MandyManners

So do I.

But, it's their well. It's their problem.

That's the thing, I am leery to leave it up to them. What if they fail?

506 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:38:20pm

re: #490 Floral Giraffe

Redneck bitch's answer.
"Here, tie yourself to the bumper. THEN we can talk."

heh.
I had no idea you were a redneck gal.

507 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:38:34pm

re: #489 MandyManners

So do I.

But, it's their well. It's their problem.

That's true, but it will be everyone else's too, so if they can't handle it, better they get some help.

508 reidr  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:38:46pm

I see now how these things get hundreds and hundreds of comments. Time flies when you're in the lizardzone. Night, folks.

509 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:39:15pm

re: #490 Floral Giraffe

Redneck bitch's answer.
"Here, tie yourself to the bumper. THEN we can talk."

No.

It's this.

"Tell that to my daddy."

510 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:40:05pm

re: #505 Stanley Sea

That's the thing, I am leery to leave it up to them. What if they fail?

How can 60,000 bass boats fail?

511 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:40:07pm

re: #495 Bagua

An Haliburton's problem, among others.

How're you doing, Bagua?

512 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:40:20pm

re: #496 lawhawk

Yes - it's got a huge catering facility that can handle 1,500 people at one time; a revolving restaurant that handles several hundred people, and 1,949 rooms.

Oh, and several theater spaces. And that's just one of several facilities that are being affected tonight.

One of my favorite vendors used to always take a suite. You could get there early, but DID NOT DARE INTERRUPT JEOPARDY. They were owned by a truly, wild & crazy guy. A pleasure to do business with, the owner liked me & would be VERY generous taking me to dinner. Especially once we discovered a shared affinity for calamari. Then I got to dine at Il Cantinore every trip, on his nickle. And, he was so happy to get to go there & write it off.

513 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:40:22pm

re: #508 reidr

I see now how these things get hundreds and hundreds of comments. Time flies when you're in the lizardzone. Night, folks.

Please. Wait until a State of the Union speech. We do 1200 comments in 45 minutes. Start practicing.:)

514 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:40:24pm

re: #497 freetoken

Evidently not willing to let their reputation be diminished, the commenters at HotWingNuts are all over this NYC failed bomb fire.

Amazing amount of axes to grind.

HotWingNuts?

515 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:40:25pm

It just seems unconscionable that any company involved with such a tragedy could not get it together for the cleanup. If that means hiring people to contain it, then they have to spend the money. How can they make it a state problem? Haven't we learned anything from past oil spills? I mean I don't know, unless it's not possible to contain.

516 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:40:25pm

re: #502 reine.de.tout

Dawn to the rescue, then?

re: #503 SanFranciscoZionist

I suppose just spraying Dawn doesn't work as well?

Why are you inside my head?

517 Bagua  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:40:59pm

re: #501 lawhawk

The clothes, racks, and scarves were from the prior incident in December.

Right, but Fox is still linking it to today's story, now there is a "Breaking News: ... Car Bomb", but the story linked is the "clothes and scarves".

Fox

518 jvic  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:41:13pm

re: #464 SanFranciscoZionist

Dunno about that. Think about Thomas Paine, for example.

Good point, SFZ, but IMHO the importance is symbolic: that American politics should be for Americans. Sovereignty.

Look at e.g. the Saudi money pouring into the govt. Look at the controversy about international standards possibly being invoked by US courts.

Btw, both parties have questioned the requirement in recent years: the GOP on behalf of Schwarzenegger and the Democrats on behalf of Granholm. The meltdowns of CA and MI have put that to rest for the time being, but if one of those states was riding out the recession well there'd be a lot more talk and my mind would be a lot more conflicted.

519 Randall Gross  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:41:27pm

re: #514 NJDhockeyfan

The new Town Hall wing.

520 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:41:51pm

re: #506 reine.de.tout

heh.
I had no idea you were a redneck gal.

I play one very well, though!
Yes, we have rednecks in So. Cal. they just don't live near the coast, for the most part!

521 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:41:59pm

re: #498 Cannadian Club Akbar

Show him that cherry stem tied in a knot thingy you do.
/

What?

522 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:42:21pm

re: #516 reine.de.tout

Why are you inside my head?

Walter is in mine: 4011. Boneless bananas!!!
///That didn't sound right. And newbies won't get it.

523 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:42:50pm

You Can't Rape A Woman In Skinny Jeans

I guess we're back to the pencil-and-Coke-bottle trick. GHAH!

524 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:42:57pm

re: #521 MandyManners

What?

Was a foreplay joke. Geez.

525 Randall Gross  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:43:03pm

re: #517 Bagua

Well leave it to Fox then to muddle up a news report from their HQ city...

526 freetoken  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:43:11pm

re: #514 NJDhockeyfan

HotWingNuts?

AKA HotAir

527 Bagua  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:43:14pm

re: #511 MandyManners

How're you doing, Bagua?

Good dear, thank you for asking. But I'm very troubled over this dreadful oil spill and now clothing salesmen are going postal.

528 lawhawk  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:43:14pm

re: #517 Bagua

Well, it's actually from an AP/1010wins.com report that is so poorly written so as to be useless.

529 SteveC  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:43:20pm

re: #498 Cannadian Club Akbar

Show him that cherry stem tied in a knot thingy you do.
/

That's nuttin'! I know a woman who can suck a golf ball through a garden hose!

530 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:43:27pm

re: #505 Stanley Sea

That's the thing, I am leery to leave it up to them. What if they fail?

But, they are not alone. Various levels of government are right there.

531 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:43:57pm

re: #508 reidr

I see now how these things get hundreds and hundreds of comments. Time flies when you're in the lizardzone. Night, folks.

You'll do fine.
It just takes some practice!
WELCOME!

532 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:44:06pm

re: #515 marjoriemoon

It just seems unconscionable that any company involved with such a tragedy could not get it together for the cleanup. If that means hiring people to contain it, then they have to spend the money. How can they make it a state problem? Haven't we learned anything from past oil spills? I mean I don't know, unless it's not possible to contain.

Yeah. This is no time to decide it's too hard to clean up after yourself.

533 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:44:10pm

re: #529 SteveC

Hey man, how goes it!!??

534 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:44:10pm

re: #507 SanFranciscoZionist

That's true, but it will be everyone else's too, so if they can't handle it, better they get some help.

Yes.

535 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:44:36pm

re: #508 reidr

I see now how these things get hundreds and hundreds of comments. Time flies when you're in the lizardzone. Night, folks.

*smooch*

536 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:44:45pm

re: #528 lawhawk

Well, it's actually from an AP/1010wins.com report that is so poorly written so as to be useless.

Got another live feed here...

[Link: www.myfoxny.com...]

537 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:44:47pm

re: #516 reine.de.tout

Why are you inside my head?

Uh, it's graciously appointed, and the music is more to my taste than the music in WUP's head?

538 SteveC  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:45:16pm

re: #533 Cannadian Club Akbar

Hey man, how goes it!!??

It's been busy!

Who knew that the world doesn't stop when you hit the road? I get home and there is a pile of mail and a 36 page to-do list!!!

539 Randall Gross  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:45:21pm

re: #523 SanFranciscoZionist

You Can't Rape A Woman In Skinny Jeans

I guess we're back to the pencil-and-Coke-bottle trick. GHAH!

That's just freaking wrong.

540 avanti  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:45:28pm

Teaser just now on FOX News:
" When foul mouthed law members clash with Goldman Saks titans, who was the media rooting for ?"

a. Fox does not know the law makers were reading the foul words from Goldman e-mails.
b. They know, but are spinning like a top.

Either way, it's a piss poor way to cover the "news"

541 Reginald Perrin  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:45:31pm

re: #503 SanFranciscoZionist

I suppose just spraying Dawn doesn't work as well?

They are planning on using microbes to digest oil coating vegetation.

542 Liberal Classic  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:45:38pm

re: #81 NJDhockeyfan

Yesterday I was flipping arounf the radio dial in my car and Mark Levin was interviewing a guy who was on the oil rig when it exploded. It was a facinating interview. They have posted it on his website. It's worth a listen.

"James" - who was on the oil rig that blew in the Gulf - calls the Mark Levin Show and explains what occurred.

Radio host has no clue what the guy he is interviewing is saying. Interviewee sounds legit. What he says seems to square with everything I've read.

[Link: www.rigzone.com...]

543 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:45:53pm

re: #538 SteveC

It's been busy!

Who knew that the world doesn't stop when you hit the road? I get home and there is a pile of mail and a 36 page to-do list!!!

And 759 emails to delete!!

544 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:46:55pm

re: #541 Reginald Perrin

They are planning on using microbes to digest oil coating vegetation.

It's a horror beyond horrors really. Alaska is STILL effected from the Exxon Valdez spill, what... 25 years out? If you guys read Mudflats, she used to post about that.

545 [deleted]  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:47:01pm
546 avanti  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:47:10pm

re: #542 Liberal Classic

Radio host has no clue what the guy he is interviewing is saying. Interviewee sounds legit. What he says seems to square with everything I've read.

[Link: www.rigzone.com...]

Obama ordered the rig blown up, I read it on the internet./

547 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:47:19pm

re: #524 Cannadian Club Akbar

Was a foreplay joke. Geez.

Huh?

548 SteveC  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:47:22pm

re: #543 Cannadian Club Akbar

And 759 emails to delete!!

Preach it, Brother!

549 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:48:14pm

'Nite, all.

550 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:48:25pm

re: #539 Thanos

That's just freaking wrong.

What's up with the Cat-Meat Sheikh in Australia?

551 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:48:42pm

re: #547 MandyManners

Huh?

re: #478 Nimed

Not exactly my idea of foreplay, but we can make it work.

There. He commented on your comment.

552 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:49:04pm

re: #544 marjoriemoon

It's a horror beyond horrors really. Alaska is STILL effected from the Exxon Valdez spill, what... 25 years out? If you guys read Mudflats, she used to post about that.

She's still posting about it. Actually she has been tweeting pretty hyper about the new spill, warning warning warning!

553 avanti  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:49:10pm

re: #544 marjoriemoon

It's a horror beyond horrors really. Alaska is STILL effected from the Exxon Valdez spill, what... 25 years out? If you guys read Mudflats, she used to post about that.

Yep, I read they poked a few 1000 holes down into the beaches and found oil contamination just a few inches down.

554 lawhawk  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:49:28pm

Bear in mind too that Thomson-Reuters HQ is down the block from the incident and the NYT HQ is a few blocks away. It's the heart of Midtown.

Here's NYT's latest:

Police officials said a witness reported a running Nissan Pathfinder with Connecticut plates, with smoke coming out of the back. A bomb squad robot popped the back latch of the Pathfinder, and officers found what they initially believed was a bomb. The vehicle was found to contain explosives, gasoline, propane and burned wires, a Fire Department officer told Reuters.

The officer, who did not give his name because he was not authorized to speak to the news media, said that a man was seen fleeing the S.U.V. and that the police evacuated the area in case there were other threats nearby.

The officer said that the police were treating the vehicle as a “failed device.” The police were searching for a suspect.

A federal official said that it was not considered a terrorist threat and that the New York Police Department had told the Department of Homeland Security to stand down.

That last bit is... odd.

Who exactly has a car that contains gasoline, propane, and explosives and yet isn't considered a terrorist threat?

555 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:50:03pm

re: #546 avanti

Obama ordered the rig blown up, I read it on the internet./

RFK Jr. said it was George Bush's fault™ . Did he fall off the wagon again?

556 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:50:14pm

re: #552 Stanley Sea

She's still posting about it. Actually she has been tweeting pretty hyper about the new spill, warning warning warning!

I haven't read her in awhile. I need to do that!

557 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:50:19pm

re: #545 Nimed

That's just sick.

Ya' think?

558 Jadespring  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:50:47pm

re: #547 MandyManners

Huh?

Tying a cherry stem into knot, in the mouth, using the tongue. Indicates very adept tongue skills. Implies other adept tongue skills in other areas. Guys like that.

559 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:50:50pm

Hee hee. Maybe George Soros will buy the paper!

560 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:51:17pm

re: #522 Cannadian Club Akbar

Walter is in mine: 4011. Boneless bananas!!!
///That didn't sound right. And newbies won't get it.

heheheh.
I went to the grocery today, and my daughter got some bananas, and when we got to the checkout and the clerk picked up the bananas, I thought:
4011
4011
4011

561 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:51:52pm

re: #558 Jadespring

Tying a cherry stem into knot, in the mouth, using the tongue. Indicates very adept tongue skills. Implies other adept tongue skills in other areas. Guys like that.

Yes we do.

562 SteveC  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:51:53pm

re: #546 avanti

Obama ordered the rig blown up, I read it on the internet./

Oh, you read that on the internet? I found some world-class stupid the other day....

I believe the Naudet film of Flight 11 is a charade, staged to appear accidental. However bizarre that claim may appear to be, the evidence that justifies it is there in the film (the DVD version, issued in September 2002, titled "9/11 — The Filmmakers' Commemorative Edition"), and I challenge anyone watching it and following my arguments to reach any other conclusion.

563 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:52:06pm

Deleted comments happening. Sock?

564 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:52:16pm

re: #554 lawhawk

Bear in mind too that Thomson-Reuters HQ is down the block from the incident and the NYT HQ is a few blocks away. It's the heart of Midtown.

Here's NYT's latest:

That last bit is... odd.

Who exactly has a car that contains gasoline, propane, and explosives and yet isn't considered a terrorist threat?

I read that too, a few minutes ago, agree - odd. I though the story hadn't been updated or something.

Keep us posted, pls

565 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:52:27pm

I sense deletions in this thread...

566 laZardo  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:52:30pm

And speaking of the convergence of crazies, did you know that the Moonies are part of a joint-venture to sell cars in North Korea?

567 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:52:41pm

re: #558 Jadespring

Tying a cherry stem into knot, in the mouth, using the tongue. Indicates very adept tongue skills. Implies other adept tongue skills in other areas. Guys like that.

Any man who would suggest something like that to me...?

568 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:53:37pm

re: #554 lawhawk

Bear in mind too that Thomson-Reuters HQ is down the block from the incident and the NYT HQ is a few blocks away. It's the heart of Midtown.

Here's NYT's latest:

That last bit is... odd.

Who exactly has a car that contains gasoline, propane, and explosives and yet isn't considered a terrorist threat?

If it's not threat it would be because it was neutralized or failed? Otherwise it could still be a terrorist incident. I imagine that once they call off Homeland Security they then call in the FBI.

569 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:53:43pm

re: #553 avanti

Yep, I read they poked a few 1000 holes down into the beaches and found oil contamination just a few inches down.

Exactly. The gulf is fucked, I hate to say it. Horrible.

I'm thinking it'll be a light hurricane season, however, since it's been so cold.

570 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:53:59pm

re: #566 laZardo

And speaking of the convergence of crazies, did you know that the Moonies are part of a joint-venture to sell cars in North Korea?

That's...odd...

571 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:54:15pm

re: #542 Liberal Classic

Radio host has no clue what the guy he is interviewing is saying. Interviewee sounds legit. What he says seems to square with everything I've read.

[Link: www.rigzone.com...]

Yeah, the interview sounded legit to me, too.

572 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:54:18pm

re: #563 Cannadian Club Akbar

Deleted comments happening. Sock?

Betcha

573 freetoken  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:54:52pm

re: #565 Varek Raith

I sense deletions in this thread...

The Force is with us?

574 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:55:12pm

re: #554 lawhawk

A federal official said that it was not considered a terrorist threat and that the New York Police Department had told the Department of Homeland Security to stand down.

It seems like they are always quick to claim 'no terrorist attack' before any investigation has started.

575 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:55:15pm

re: #569 marjoriemoon

Exactly. The gulf is fucked, I hate to say it. Horrible.

I'm thinking it'll be a light hurricane season, however, since it's been so cold.

But the oil slick will get picked up into the Gulf Stream. Then to your side of the state.

576 laZardo  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:55:22pm

re: #573 freetoken

The Force is with us?

No, Darthstar's not logged in...

577 Randall Gross  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:55:22pm

re: #554 lawhawk

Bear in mind too that Thomson-Reuters HQ is down the block from the incident and the NYT HQ is a few blocks away. It's the heart of Midtown.

Here's NYT's latest:

That last bit is... odd.

Who exactly has a car that contains gasoline, propane, and explosives and yet isn't considered a terrorist threat?

I think it's the type of statement you get in a packed city on a Saturday night when the cops don't want a panic.

578 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:55:55pm

re: #572 Stanley Sea

Betcha

Oh, I hope not, Nimed seemed like a good new lizard.
Still, you can never tell.
Sockys abound.
Stinky will get them.

579 lawhawk  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:55:57pm

re: #568 Gus 802

Except that keeping DHS involved would allow additional resources to come to bear to help track down the vehicle's whereabouts, additional manpower, etc.

Well, I'm out for the nite... will be back in the AM with the latest...

580 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:56:09pm

re: #573 freetoken

The Force is with us?

Yes, though with all you goodie two shoes here, it clouds my ability to sense the Dark Side.
/:P

581 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:56:13pm

re: #574 NJDhockeyfan


A federal official said that it was not considered a terrorist threat and that the New York Police Department had told the Department of Homeland Security to stand down.

It seems like they are always quick to claim 'no terrorist attack' before any investigation has started.

I suspect it may be easier to say 'yep, terrorists' later, rather than risk saying it first and having everyone run around screaming.

582 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:56:42pm

re: #579 lawhawk

Except that keeping DHS involved would allow additional resources to come to bear to help track down the vehicle's whereabouts, additional manpower, etc.

Well, I'm out for the nite... will be back in the AM with the latest...

Stay safe!

583 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:56:46pm

Sock clue? Asking about how the upding system works...??

584 freetoken  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:56:46pm

Nations warn of ‘imminent’ militant attacks in Delhi

The Indian capital faces possible “imminent” militant attacks, the United States, Australia and Britain warned on Saturday, stepping up their risk advisories to travellers to New Delhi.

New Zealand also warned of an “extreme risk” of terrorism in India as the nation battles to reassure visitors it can safely host the Commonwealth Games in October in New Delhi, which has been targeted before by militants.

Sounds like trouble.

585 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:56:54pm

re: #563 Cannadian Club Akbar

Deleted comments happening. Sock?

My "that's just sick" comment was deleted. If by "sock" you mean sockpuppet, I'm not one. Is deletion automatic? If that's the case, what usually triggers it?

586 jvic  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:56:57pm

re: #492 reine.de.tout

It's their responsibility to clean it up.
Louisiana, like other states, is operating on a shoestring budget.
BP says they're spending $7 million a day on this, and not getting anywhere.

Jindal wants to move, but he wants BP assurance they will reimburse the state, which BP should do.

But Jindal may need to proceed without that assurance.

I'm no accountant, but this ($16 6B net income available to common shares) doesn't leave me thinking that BP is breaking the bank.
*** *** *** *** *** *** ***
re: #532 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah. This is no time to decide it's too hard to clean up after yourself.

The feds and Louisiana should do whatever it takes and bill BP including seizure of assets if necessary.

587 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:56:57pm

re: #575 Cannadian Club Akbar

But the oil slick will get picked up into the Gulf Stream. Then to your side of the state.

Whoopie. They declared a state of emergency for Florida's coast yesterday.

588 laZardo  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:57:00pm

Brb, gonna brush my teeth.

Have some complimentary Arthur Schopenhauer.

UNLESS suffering is the direct and immediate object of life, our existence must entirely fail of its aim. It is absurd to look upon the enormous amount of pain that abounds everywhere in the world, and originates in needs and necessities inseparable from life itself, as serving no purpose at all and the result of mere chance. Each separate misfortune, as it comes, seems, no doubt, to be something exceptional; but misfortune in general is the rule.

I know of no greater absurdity than that propounded by most systems of philosophy in declaring evil to be negative in its character. Evil is just what is positive; it makes its own existence felt. Leibnitz is particularly concerned to defend this absurdity; and he seeks to strengthen his position by using a palpable and paltry sophism.1 It is the good which is negative; in other words, happiness and satisfaction always imply some desire fulfilled, some state of pain brought to an end.

589 lawhawk  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:57:03pm

re: #577 Thanos

Perhaps, but it does strain credulity.

590 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:57:14pm

re: #583 Stanley Sea

Sock clue? Asking about how the upding system works...??

Tricky buttons.
/

591 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:57:19pm

re: #579 lawhawk

Except that keeping DHS involved would allow additional resources to come to bear to help track down the vehicle's whereabouts, additional manpower, etc.

Well, I'm out for the nite... will be back in the AM with the latest...

At this point I think it's impossible to get good information from the field. That being the case I would say homeland is probably still involved.

592 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:57:20pm

re: #583 Stanley Sea

Sock clue? Asking about how the upding system works...??

Was that the Loch Ness Monster again?

593 MandyManners  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:57:46pm

re: #584 freetoken

Nations warn of ‘imminent’ militant attacks in Delhi

Sounds like trouble.

I've been tracking the same.

594 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:57:54pm

re: #587 marjoriemoon

Whoopie. They declared a state of emergency for Florida's coast yesterday.

I know. I kinda live here.:)

595 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:58:04pm

re: #585 Nimed

My "that's just sick" comment was deleted. If by "sock" you mean sockpuppet, I'm not one. Is deletion automatic? If that's the case, what usually triggers it?

Evidently it appears the link to that Rosie pick isn't welcome here. Either because of the pic itself, or the site it's on.

596 Randall Gross  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:58:25pm

re: #589 lawhawk

Perhaps, but it does strain credulity.

I quite agree, but... I'm not the guy who has to deal like the police in NY do. I think it's a hard decision to make in cases like this.

597 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:58:28pm

Wingnuts to claim Obama planted the bomb to round up the Tea parties in 5...4...3....
/I wish I was kidding

598 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:58:34pm

re: #583 Stanley Sea

Sock puppets usually belong to previously banned users. And have no relation to dings. It's not nice to accuse someone of being a socky, at least until AFTER Stinky Beaumont has whacked it.

599 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:59:09pm

re: #586 jvic

The feds and Louisiana should do whatever it takes and bill BP including seizure of assets if necessary.

Right on. But I'm not holding my breath.

600 avanti  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:59:10pm

re: #564 Stanley Sea

I read that too, a few minutes ago, agree - odd. I though the story hadn't been updated or something.

Keep us posted, pls

The guy that installed my furnace had propane, gasoline for his generator, and lots of wire in his van, many contractors do, so it is possible.

601 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:59:27pm

re: #586 jvic

The feds and Louisiana should do whatever it takes and bill BP including seizure of assets if necessary.

BP may have the $ to spend $7 a day.
But Louisiana doesn't.

But I agree with you - we need to do what we've got to do and settle the account later.
But there may be laws in place dealing with these things; I'm not sure why Jindal can't just move ahead, but has to wait for BP to "approve" payment.

602 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:59:28pm

re: #594 Cannadian Club Akbar

I know. I kinda live here.:)

I always forget that, sorry!

603 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:59:32pm

re: #597 Killgore Trout

DANG. I do wish you were wrong.

604 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 8:59:49pm

re: #591 Gus 802

At this point I think it's impossible to get good information from the field. That being the case I would say homeland is probably still involved.

The press is still drinking after the correspondence dinner.

Bummer and slow response.

605 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:00:57pm

re: #585 Nimed

My "that's just sick" comment was deleted. If by "sock" you mean sockpuppet, I'm not one. Is deletion automatic? If that's the case, what usually triggers it?

I didn't see your comment, but if you had a link in there, it may not have been an acceptable place to link. For some sites, Charles prefers that one uses the cached version of a page, rather than send traffic to the sites from direct links from here.

606 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:01:08pm

re: #604 Stanley Sea

The press is still drinking after the correspondence dinner.

Bummer and slow response.

I wish I was part of the press. Oh, wait, I have a cocktail right here. Fuck 'em!!

607 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:01:21pm

re: #603 Floral Giraffe

DANG. I do wish you were wrong.

I wish it was only going to be an obscure post on an unimportant blog. Unfortunately it will probably come from Rush, Beck, Fox News, etc

608 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:01:31pm

re: #597 Killgore Trout

Wingnuts to claim Obama planted the bomb to round up the Tea parties in 5...4...3...
/I wish I was kidding

I don't know about wingnuts. Sounds more like the conspiracy nuts (9/11 truthers, chem trails, Bildeberg theorists, etc).

609 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:02:06pm

re: #595 Varek Raith

Evidently it appears the link to that Rosie pick isn't welcome here. Either because of the pic itself, or the site it's on.

Thanks. That explains why the original Mandy Manners comment was also deleted. Is Mandy "Rosie"?

610 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:02:09pm

re: #604 Stanley Sea

pimf (usually I just let it fly) but correspondent's dinner.

611 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:02:11pm

re: #583 Stanley Sea

Sock clue? Asking about how the upding system works...??

Hm.
I don't recall that he asked. I offered to 'splain.

However, he did think that he couldn't upding 'til he had 50 comments. I found that odd, because it's not been in place for quite awhile now.

612 Randall Gross  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:02:20pm

re: #597 Killgore Trout

Wingnuts to claim Obama planted the bomb to round up the Tea parties in 5...4...3...
/I wish I was kidding

I'm betting you can find it in FR comments right now...

613 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:02:39pm

re: #608 NJDhockeyfan

Yeah, Mark levin, Glenn Beck, Rush, etc.

614 avanti  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:02:51pm

re: #597 Killgore Trout

Wingnuts to claim Obama planted the bomb to round up the Tea parties in 5...4...3...
/I wish I was kidding

With Rush questioning the "timing" of the oil spill, sadly, I agree. The stalker blog suggested both the spill and the coal mine disaster are suspicious.

615 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:03:00pm

re: #592 SanFranciscoZionist

Was that the Loch Ness Monster again?

Not YL92.
Please tell me, not YL92.
I've been fooled by YL92's various incarnations more than I like to admit.

616 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:03:05pm

re: #612 Thanos

Probably.

617 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:03:14pm

re: #480 Renaissance_Man

So say many of the stalkers, I understand.

LOL
It's been awhile..But I sent Charles my Street cred and paperwork that I was the Republican of the year..If it wasn't true..Charles would have shredded me.. What bothers the Stalkers is that it is true.. I moved to the middle and didn't jump off the wing nut cliff..It drives them insane and nothing they post anymore bothers me..I don't even read them anymore. I know a little bit about politics..I have become a moderate..Fuck the stalkers

618 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:03:33pm

re: #609 Nimed

Thanks. That explains why the original Mandy Manners comment was also deleted. Is Mandy "Rosie"?

Man, you're asking for it!!
/

619 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:04:00pm

re: #613 Killgore Trout

Yeah, Mark levin, Glenn Beck, Rush, etc.

Mark Levin is a truther?

620 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:04:14pm

re: #611 reine.de.tout

Hm.
I don't recall that he asked. I offered to 'splain.

However, he did think that he couldn't upding 'til he had 50 comments. I found that odd, because it's not been in place for quite awhile now.

Hey, I'm right here! And I did try to upding after I registered and received a warning. And your comment was pretty helpful.

621 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:04:18pm

re: #615 reine.de.tout

Not YL92.
Please tell me, not YL92.
I've been fooled by YL92's various incarnations more than I like to admit.

It's become a sport!!

The YL92 Bowl

622 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:04:18pm

re: #601 reine.de.tout

BP may have the $ to spend $7 million a day.
But Louisiana doesn't.

But I agree with you - we need to do what we've got to do and settle the account later.
But there may be laws in place dealing with these things; I'm not sure why Jindal can't just move ahead, but has to wait for BP to "approve" payment.

I'm not doing so good tonight. . .

623 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:04:18pm

re: #615 reine.de.tout

Not YL92.
Please tell me, not YL92.
I've been fooled by YL92's various incarnations more than I like to admit.

He's always so nice!!

624 SteveC  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:04:33pm

MSNBC reporter is saying the NYPD is still pushing the crowd back. Reporter says they just had to move back a block.

625 Randall Gross  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:04:34pm

re: #595 Varek Raith

I clicked the link, I would bet it's the site since it's someone who flounced and then put up that lizard lounge vid from crazy Pam etc.

626 laZardo  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:04:41pm

re: #617 HoosierHoops

LOL
It's been awhile..But I sent Charles my Street cred and paperwork that I was the Republican of the year..If it wasn't true..Charles would have shredded me.. What bothers the Stalkers is that it is true.. I moved to the middle and didn't jump off the wing nut cliff..It drives them insane and nothing they post anymore bothers me..I don't even read them anymore. I know a little bit about politics..I have become a moderate..Fuck the stalkers

You could always go Blue Dog.

627 lostlakehiker  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:04:46pm

re: #445 SanFranciscoZionist

Nate Silver says that Mississippi will be the last state to legalize same-sex marriage, in or about 2024.

Long before the day on which MS legalizes same-sex marriage, the Congress will make it federally valid and then it will be a matter of no consequence what the holdout states do. Or if it is, they will be forced to conform.

But that assumes this movement has broad popular support and is likely to win in most states. That's the catch. It's lost almost every election or referendum held on the issue, even in CA. Some movements popular in liberal circles just can't garner the kind of broad popular support needed to prevail nationwide.

The nation's demographic trends are unfavorable to the movement. While immigrants mostly align with the Democrats, on this issue they tend to be more in the camp of tradition.

628 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:05:00pm

LAPD estimates crowd at half of predicted size.
Cardinal Mahoney leads protestors.
Linky
[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]

629 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:05:33pm

re: #619 NJDhockeyfan

Yes, Alex Jones loves him for mainstreaming bullshit.

630 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:05:37pm

re: #618 Cannadian Club Akbar

Man, you're asking for it!!
/

Lol.
*Runs away*

631 Reginald Perrin  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:05:38pm

re: #544 marjoriemoon

It's a horror beyond horrors really. Alaska is STILL effected from the Exxon Valdez spill, what... 25 years out?

The spill in the gulf is potential the worst environmental disaster in American history. If it takes weeks or months to seal the well, the amount of oil released will dwarf the Valdez spill. There is also the possibility that the the volume of oil leaking could increase exponentially and if the pipe breaks completely, 30,000 or more barrels per day of oil could be released.

632 SteveC  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:06:05pm

re: #621 Stanley Sea

It's become a sport!!

The YL92 Bowl

Speaking of Sports, I heard Mark Spitz won the Kentucky Derby! Is that true?

633 Randall Gross  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:06:08pm

re: #628 Floral Giraffe

LAPD estimates crowd at half of predicted size.
Cardinal Mahoney leads protestors.
Linky
[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]

You said Cardinal
Image: first-cardinal.jpg

634 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:06:55pm

re: #628 Floral Giraffe

LAPD estimates crowd at half of predicted size.
Cardinal Mahoney leads protestors.
Linky
[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]

I saw the photos! There were like three billion people at that demo! The MFM is out to misrepresent the pro-immigration rallies!

635 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:06:57pm

re: #620 Nimed

Hey, I'm right here! And I did try to upding after I registered and received a warning. And your comment was pretty helpful.

OK, hon!
I'm not thinking you're a sockpuppet.
Until you've been around, you might want to ask if OK to link to certain places, before linking to them. Others are better able to help you with which sites exactly are forbidden.

636 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:06:58pm

re: #631 Reginald Perrin

The spill in the gulf is potential the worst environmental disaster in American history. If it takes weeks or months to seal the well, the amount of oil released will dwarf the Valdez spill. There is also the possibility that the the volume of oil leaking could increase exponentially and if the pipe breaks completely, 30,000 or more barrels per day of oil could be released.

Someone posted a graph this mornng. It said 2-3 months to fix.

637 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:07:34pm

re: #622 reine.de.tout

There's an Oil Spill Fund. Fully funded after the Exxon Valdez, that the Feds can use. It's a BIG fund. BRB, with the linky!

638 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:07:39pm

re: #623 SanFranciscoZionist

He's always so nice!!

For a little while.
Then he gets stupid.

639 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:07:42pm

re: #618 Cannadian Club Akbar

Man, you're asking for it!!
/

Varek Raith said "Evidently it appears the link to that Rosie pick isn't welcome here.".

640 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:08:16pm

re: #632 SteveC

Speaking of Sports, I heard Mark Spitz won the Kentucky Derby! Is that true?

Yes. Spitz is a mudder.
/actually, the jockey from last year won this year

641 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:08:18pm

re: #639 Nimed

Varek Raith said "Evidently it appears the link to that Rosie pick isn't welcome here.".

Could be the site as well. You'll get the hang of it.

642 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:09:05pm

re: #631 Reginald Perrin

The spill in the gulf is potential the worst environmental disaster in American history. If it takes weeks or months to seal the well, the amount of oil released will dwarf the Valdez spill. There is also the possibility that the the volume of oil leaking could increase exponentially and if the pipe breaks completely, 30,000 or more barrels per day of oil could be released.

You're absolutely correct.
I hate to even think about it.
It's just unimaginable.

643 Randall Gross  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:09:08pm

re: #635 reine.de.tout

OK, hon!
I'm not thinking you're a sockpuppet.
Until you've been around, you might want to ask if OK to link to certain places, before linking to them. Others are better able to help you with which sites exactly are forbidden.

He didn't link it, Mandy did. He just quoted it, scroll up far to see Mandy's delete too.

644 austin_blue  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:09:18pm

Late to the game, lizards. Good evening!

Neighborhood BBQ, thank you Mr. Pig.

So, a smoking potential SUV IUD in Times Square with stolen Connecticut plates that didn't go off. Can we call the 48-hour rule or not?

645 Jadespring  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:09:29pm

re: #635 reine.de.tout

OK, hon!
I'm not thinking you're a sockpuppet.
Until you've been around, you might want to ask if OK to link to certain places, before linking to them. Others are better able to help you with which sites exactly are forbidden.

He didn't post the link. He just quoted Mandy's post that had the link. They're both were deleted.

646 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:09:35pm

I DIDN'T DO IT!111!!
/

647 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:09:36pm

re: #622 reine.de.tout

Here you are.
LOTS of money available to help.
Hope they get their butts in gear!
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

648 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:09:38pm

re: #643 Thanos

He didn't link it, Mandy did. He just quoted it, scroll up far to see Mandy's delete too.

We're all going to live through this one...

649 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:09:53pm

re: #644 austin_blue

Late to the game, lizards. Good evening!

Neighborhood BBQ, thank you Mr. Pig.

So, a smoking potential SUV IUD in Times Square with stolen Connecticut plates that didn't go off. Can we call the 48-hour rule or not?

IUD? =)

650 avanti  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:10:07pm

re: #631 Reginald Perrin

The spill in the gulf is potential the worst environmental disaster in American history. If it takes weeks or months to seal the well, the amount of oil released will dwarf the Valdez spill. There is also the possibility that the the volume of oil leaking could increase exponentially and if the pipe breaks completely, 30,000 or more barrels per day of oil could be released.

No, just listen to Drill Baby Drill comments:


" No human endeavor is ever without risk – whether it’s sending a man to the moon or extracting the necessary resources to fuel our civilization. I repeat the slogan “drill here, drill now” not out of naiveté or disregard for the tragic consequences of oil spills – my family and my state and I know firsthand those consequences. How could I still believe in drilling America’s domestic supply of energy after having seen the devastation of the Exxon-Valdez spill? I continue to believe in it because increased domestic oil production will make us a more secure, prosperous, and peaceful nation."

651 Daniel Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:10:13pm

re: #628 Floral Giraffe
It was damn big. It literally filled Broadway from City Hall back solid for blocks. I have not seen helicopter video though. The Red Line was jammed like I have not ever seen.

652 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:10:20pm

re: #632 SteveC

Speaking of Sports, I heard Mark Spitz won the Kentucky Derby! Is that true?

No! It was some horse named Super Saver - I don't know what the pay out was.

(you know this already and are just joking with me?)

653 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:10:35pm

re: #644 austin_blue

Late to the game, lizards. Good evening!

Neighborhood BBQ, thank you Mr. Pig.

So, a smoking potential SUV IUD in Times Square with stolen Connecticut plates that didn't go off. Can we call the 48-hour rule or not?

Actually, LH was here and gave updates, as well as KT.

654 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:10:38pm

re: #631 Reginald Perrin

The spill in the gulf is potential the worst environmental disaster in American history. If it takes weeks or months to seal the well, the amount of oil released will dwarf the Valdez spill. There is also the possibility that the the volume of oil leaking could increase exponentially and if the pipe breaks completely, 30,000 or more barrels per day of oil could be released.

Oh the gift that keeps on giving :(

Why aren't these companies regulated to be forced to clean up their messes? If it means seizing their assets, then so be it. Why is Exxon still in operation?

The Oil God is Great. The Oil God is Good. (come on, repeat after me....)

655 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:10:50pm

re: #652 Stanley Sea

No! It was some horse named Super Saver - I don't know what the pay out was.

(you know this already and are just joking with me?)

7 or 9 to 1...
I think.

656 austin_blue  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:10:58pm

re: #617 HoosierHoops

LOL
It's been awhile..But I sent Charles my Street cred and paperwork that I was the Republican of the year..If it wasn't true..Charles would have shredded me.. What bothers the Stalkers is that it is true.. I moved to the middle and didn't jump off the wing nut cliff..It drives them insane and nothing they post anymore bothers me..I don't even read them anymore. I know a little bit about politics..I have become a moderate..Fuck the stalkers

I am sorely disappointed I haven't made the Comics yet...

657 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:11:02pm

re: #643 Thanos

He didn't link it, Mandy did. He just quoted it, scroll up far to see Mandy's delete too.

Ah!

I missed both of them.
I always miss the deleted stuff.

658 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:11:27pm

.

659 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:11:29pm

re: #649 Gus 802

IUD? =)

Improvised Unexploding Device, obviously.

660 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:11:37pm

re: #646 Varek Raith

I DIDN'T DO IT!111!!
/

But you're guilty, ANYWAY.
ALL CAPS MAKES IT TRUE!

661 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:11:38pm

re: #649 Gus 802

IUD? =)

rofl Watch out! I'm packing an IUD and I WILL use it!

662 Liberal Classic  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:11:39pm

re: #571 reine.de.tout

A long and interesting thread from a mariner web forum regarding Deepwater Horizon:

[Link: gcaptain.com...]

A poster at the end of this thread questions the testimony of the interviewee on the Levin show. This guy on radio claims the final plug was in place, but a press release from Halliburton says they weren't at that point in completion yet.

663 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:11:58pm

re: #658 NJDhockeyfan

.

WTF does that mean?
/

664 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:12:00pm

re: #660 reine.de.tout

But you're guilty, ANYWAY.
ALL CAPS MAKES IT TRUE!

....busted...

665 Reginald Perrin  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:12:14pm

re: #614 avanti

The stalker blog suggested both the spill and the coal mine disaster are suspiciou

When have those intellectual midgets ever been right about anything? If someone where to read that silly blog and not know anything about it, they probably would think it was a poorly done satirical parody of a right wing blog.

666 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:12:21pm

re: #647 Floral Giraffe

Here you are.
LOTS of money available to help.
Hope they get their butts in gear!
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Great info, Flo!
Thanks!

667 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:12:29pm

re: #659 SanFranciscoZionist

Improvised Unexploding Device, obviously.

OK Thought maybe we'd have a pregnant Nissan Pathfinder on our hands.

//

668 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:12:33pm

re: #635 reine.de.tout

OK, hon!
I'm not thinking you're a sockpuppet.
Until you've been around, you might want to ask if OK to link to certain places, before linking to them. Others are better able to help you with which sites exactly are forbidden.

Thanks. The link was embedded in the reply to Mandy Manners. I guess I can manually delete such links when I reply.

If you don't mind my asking, why is it a picture of a she-KSM forbidden? Granted it's a pretty horrifying sight...

669 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:12:39pm

re: #633 Thanos

You said Cardinal
Image: first-cardinal.jpg

I like your cardinal a LOT better than Los Angeles's cardinal!
I was a Mahoney fan, until the abuse stuff started coming out.
Now, I am NOT a Mahoney fan.
He can retire & I hope he feels the pain of his hiding of the abusers. Forever.

670 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:12:47pm

re: #661 marjoriemoon

rofl Watch out! I'm packing an IUD and I WILL use it!

Did ya hear about the dyslexic cop who spent the night handing out IUD's?

671 SteveC  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:13:00pm

re: #644 austin_blue

So, a smoking potential SUV IUD in Times Square with stolen Connecticut plates that didn't go off. Can we call the 48-hour rule or not?

re: #649 Gus 802

IUD? =)

Smoking IUD? Somebody had a great Saturday night.

672 Silvergirl  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:13:34pm

re: #597 Killgore Trout

Wingnuts to claim Obama planted the bomb to round up the Tea parties in 5...4...3...
/I wish I was kidding

Looking at the other side, somebody somewhere is writing that Tea Partiers themselves did it. Yes?

/I also wish I were kidding

673 Jadespring  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:13:46pm

re: #668 Nimed

Thanks. The link was embedded in the reply to Mandy Manners. I guess I can manually delete such links when I reply.

If you don't mind my asking, why is it a picture of a she-KSM forbidden? Granted it's a pretty horrifying sight...

It was probably something to do with the site, not the picture.

674 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:14:06pm

re: #654 marjoriemoon

Oh the gift that keeps on giving :(

Why aren't these companies regulated to be forced to clean up their messes? If it means seizing their assets, then so be it. Why is Exxon still in operation?

The Oil God is Great. The Oil God is Good. (come on, repeat after me...)

BP is responsible for cleaning it up.

The problem is the continued leaking, from 3 different spots. I think BP is overwhelmed. This is sort of a first.

675 SteveC  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:14:10pm

re: #652 Stanley Sea

No! It was some horse named Super Saver - I don't know what the pay out was.

(you know this already and are just joking with me?)

One of my many LGF responsibilities is being a Good Humor Man! (Not the ice cream guy!)

676 laZardo  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:14:28pm
677 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:14:31pm

re: #670 Cannadian Club Akbar

Did ya hear about the dyslexic cop who spent the night handing out IUD's?

rofl oh that deserved a snort!

678 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:14:58pm

re: #675 SteveC

One of my many LGF responsibilities is being a Good Humor Man! (Not the ice cream guy!)

Ya, well, I want some fucking ice cream!!
/

679 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:15:13pm

re: #650 avanti

I'm sorry, when Sarah Palin was interviewed by Katie Couric and asked about what Supreme Court decisions she had opinions on - this was just weeks after the SC reduced the amount Exxon had to pay to Alaska for the Valdez spill from billions to 500 million - she could not name a case. Somehow that one didn't cross her mind.

Pandering bullshit as usual.

680 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:15:19pm

re: #676 laZardo

And now to cheer up this thread with a vision of what most cars in the world will be like within the next few decades.


[Video]

Crumple Zone!

681 SteveC  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:15:48pm

re: #670 Cannadian Club Akbar

Did ya hear about the dyslexic cop who spent the night handing out IUD's?

Thanks but not needed. I'm in a platonic relationship. "Platonic" is Latin for "I'm not getting any."

682 austin_blue  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:15:55pm

re: #649 Gus 802

IUD? =)

Gah! Improvised Unexploded Device?

(Begging, yes. I know. Beer was consumed at the BBQ and I am presently sipping a very nice a 96 proof Laphroaig Quarter Cask.)

683 laZardo  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:15:59pm

re: #680 Varek Raith

Crumple Zone!

In Maoist China, Crumple Zone is YOU!

684 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:16:16pm

re: #668 Nimed

Just accept that our host has standards, and rules. They are what make this site the great place that it is, for civilized discourse, friendly banter, and news and information. There are things & places that, well, aren't up to Charles's standards. His blog, his rules. I like it that way & hope you will too!

685 SteveC  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:16:18pm

re: #678 Cannadian Club Akbar

Ya, well, I want some fucking ice cream!!
/

So do I! Do you know how long it has been?!?!?!?!

686 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:16:51pm

re: #655 Varek Raith

7 or 9 to 1...
I think.

That is huge really. Compared to the usual favorites of 3-5 etc. Tks!

687 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:17:15pm

re: #685 SteveC

So do I! Do you know how long it has been?!?!?!?!

Sorbet is your friend.

688 darthstar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:17:37pm

My lovely wife brought home a nice market steak, some papparadele pasta, heirloom tomatoes, truffle butter, and a whole black truffle. So dinner was pasta with truffle butter (some of the pre-made stuff and some I made from the truffle), grilled steak (with truffle butter), sliced tomatoes and avocados with black sea salt. Now it's movie time...oh, and we opened one of the remaining bottles of Belle Glos wine left over from our wedding...this stuff is precious.

Have a good night, everyone...I am.

689 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:17:58pm

re: #682 austin_blue

Gah! Improvised Unexploded Device?

(Begging, yes. I know. Beer was consumed at the BBQ and I am presently sipping a very nice a 96 proof Laphroaig Quarter Cask.)

Drink up! That's a fine whiskey you have there.

690 Digital Display  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:18:08pm

re: #656 austin_blue

I am sorely disappointed I haven't made the Comics yet...

You don't wanna ever..They say the meanest things that are so over the top and hurtful...It's not worth it to be in the comics..What they say about Charles is so ugly and beyond the pale it is unbelievable..I will never check them out again for insults on-line.
True color my friend...True colors..
You can't hide that shit

691 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:18:31pm

re: #662 Liberal Classic

A long and interesting thread from a mariner web forum regarding Deepwater Horizon:

[Link: gcaptain.com...]

A poster at the end of this thread questions the testimony of the interviewee on the Levin show. This guy on radio claims the final plug was in place, but a press release from Halliburton says they weren't at that point in completion yet.

The cement, as I understand it, is used to fill in the space between the pipe and the formation that the pipe is in. This isn't done all at one time, but done as each section of pipe is put in.

I'll need to listen to the radio show again.

692 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:19:03pm

re: #684 Floral Giraffe

Just accept that our host has standards, and rules. They are what make this site the great place that it is, for civilized discourse, friendly banter, and news and information. There are things & places that, well, aren't up to Charles's standards. His blog, his rules. I like it that way & hope you will too!

You got it.

Clearly, this Mandy Manners is nothing but trouble. [/sarcasm]

693 Randall Gross  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:19:14pm

CBS now reporting that there was powder, and an apparent timing device.
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

My thoughts are with the NYPD and authorities tonight. With what I'm hearing it does sound akin to past AQ attempts in London and other spots. The scary part being that there were usually multiple car bombs in those past events, even the failed ones. I know they are searching like mad right now just in case this isn't isolated.

694 SteveC  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:19:58pm

MSNBC saying 6 streets, 3 avenues closed in NYC

695 Reginald Perrin  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:20:08pm

re: #650 avanti

The problem we are facing is that there was no planning done for a worst case scenario, it's faith based oil drilling. You would think that there would have been some backup plan in place if the relief valve failed.

696 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:20:30pm

re: #629 Killgore Trout

Yes, Alex Jones loves him for mainstreaming bullshit.

Because Alex Jones likes Mark Levin, that makes Mark Levin a truther. OK, got it.

697 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:20:55pm

re: #692 Nimed

You got it.

Clearly, this Mandy Manners is nothing but trouble. [/sarcasm]

You only need this for sarc:/

698 freetoken  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:21:20pm

re: #696 NJDhockeyfan

No. It's because Levin was pumping out idiocy.

699 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:21:48pm

re: #668 Nimed

Thanks. The link was embedded in the reply to Mandy Manners. I guess I can manually delete such links when I reply.

If you don't mind my asking, why is it a picture of a she-KSM forbidden? Granted it's a pretty horrifying sight...

I didn't actually see your comment, or Mandy's - both were deleted before I got there so I didn't realize you had quoted her. If you use the "reply" button, the person's text won't show in your reply. It only shows when you use the "quote" button.

700 Silvergirl  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:21:53pm

re: #685 SteveC

So do I! Do you know how long it has been?!?!?!?!

You coming down off ice cream? Don't they make a patch for that?

701 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:22:10pm

re: #693 Thanos

CBS now reporting that there was powder, and an apparent timing device.
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

My thoughts are with the NYPD and authorities tonight. With what I'm hearing it does sound akin to past AQ attempts in London and other spots. The scary part being that there were usually multiple car bombs in those past events, even the failed ones. I know they are searching like mad right now just in case this isn't isolated.

But remember, it wasn't a terrorist attack.

702 Liberal Classic  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:22:12pm

re: #680 Varek Raith

Similar video:

Note investigator reactions at 0:20...

703 Randall Gross  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:23:40pm

re: #701 NJDhockeyfan

But remember, it wasn't a terrorist attack.

It's de rigeur to deny that in the first few hours to prevent panic, and has been a few years now. I know everyone complains about it, but... it's the doctrine for a reason.

704 SteveC  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:24:17pm

re: #700 Silvergirl

You coming down off ice cream? Don't they make a patch for that?

For Ice cream they give you an enema, I hear!

705 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:25:00pm

re: #702 Liberal Classic

Similar video:


[Video]Note investigator reactions at 0:20...

Lol, but, it has air bags!11!

706 Silvergirl  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:25:06pm

re: #704 SteveC

For Ice cream they give you an enema, I hear!

I'll take the addiction over the cure.

707 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:25:10pm

re: #695 Reginald Perrin

The problem we are facing is that there was no planning done for a worst case scenario, it's faith based oil drilling. You would think that there would have been some backup plan in place if the relief valve failed.

There are back-ups to a failed activation of a BOP.
This happened so quickly that there was apparently no time to react.

I still have to think that somebody, somewhere, should have seen something and known that there was a problem. I don't see how they could not have known.

708 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:25:23pm

re: #698 freetoken

No. It's because Levin was pumping out idiocy.

A lot of people were . Obama said they were sending a SWAT team to the rig. Nobody knew it was a "SWAT team" of US minerals Management Services (MMS) inspectors. Honest mistake IMHO.

709 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:25:38pm

re: #700 Silvergirl

You coming down off ice cream? Don't they make a patch for that?

No. You have to go to the clinics. They are next to the methadone clinics. Just look for the fat people.:)

710 bagua  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:26:29pm

re: #694 SteveC

MSNBC saying 6 streets, 3 avenues closed in NYC

Sounds serious, what kind of scarves are we dealing with here?

711 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:26:44pm

re: #693 Thanos

CBS now reporting that there was powder, and an apparent timing device.
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

My thoughts are with the NYPD and authorities tonight. With what I'm hearing it does sound akin to past AQ attempts in London and other spots. The scary part being that there were usually multiple car bombs in those past events, even the failed ones. I know they are searching like mad right now just in case this isn't isolated.

Jesus Christ - I just woke up from a nap and saw this. Called my brother who's a Lt. w/the NYFD, works out of Ladder 12/Engine 1 near herald square. He said the cops are having everyone look at every single parked car, thinking there might be more.

712 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:26:54pm

re: #682 austin_blue

Gah! Improvised Unexploded Device?

(Begging, yes. I know. Beer was consumed at the BBQ and I am presently sipping a very nice a 96 proof Laphroaig Quarter Cask.)

Austin Blue, hang on, I'm going upthread to find a link to an interview with a guy who was on the rig when it blew up. I wish you'd listen to it and let us know if you think think he knows what he's talking about.

713 austin_blue  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:27:04pm

re: #690 HoosierHoops

You don't wanna ever..They say the meanest things that are so over the top and hurtful...It's not worth it to be in the comics..What they say about Charles is so ugly and beyond the pale it is unbelievable..I will never check them out again for insults on-line.
True color my friend...True colors..
You can't hide that shit

Agreed, but at some point it becomes a joke and almost a badge of honor. The alt.site is just so over the top that it's a parody of itself. I don't post anyplace but here. This joint is comfortable. It has a nice mix of right and left where policy can be discussed without (mostly) the kind of flame wars that turn other boards into one dimensional echo chambers. I really appreciate that.

I will also note that that wasn't the case when I was lurking here before starting to post. This board has become *much* more egalitarian in the last two years, and it is for the better.

714 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:27:11pm

re: #703 Thanos

It's de rigeur to deny that in the first few hours to prevent panic, and has been a few years now. I know everyone complains about it, but... it's the doctrine for a reason.

People aren't stupid. Not calling it what it is just makes the justice dept look stupid. Everyone knows it is an attempted terror attack by now.

715 avanti  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:27:21pm

re: #701 NJDhockeyfan

But remember, it wasn't a terrorist attack.

The "timing device" was a metal box, that turned out to be empty.

716 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:27:39pm

re: #692 Nimed

You got it.

Clearly, this Mandy Manners is nothing but trouble. [/sarcasm]

Mandy's good folks.
You just have to be VERY CAREFUL about quoting posts with links!
Everyone's links.
The reply button is your friend!

717 Randall Gross  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:27:54pm

re: #708 NJDhockeyfan

A lot of people were . Obama said they were sending a SWAT team to the rig. Nobody knew it was a "SWAT team" of US minerals Management Services (MMS) inspectors. Honest mistake IMHO.

Not really. Levin has a team who works for him, Fact checking is part of the job for on air commentators. Honestly lazy mistake is more like it, since that is easy to check on.

718 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:27:56pm

re: #708 NJDhockeyfan

A lot of people were . Obama said they were sending a SWAT team to the rig. Nobody knew it was a "SWAT team" of US minerals Management Services (MMS) inspectors. Honest mistake IMHO.

So the honest mistake was that we were sending armed troopers (swat) teams to a oil rig disaster? Paranoia!

719 SteveC  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:28:06pm

re: #711 Sigma_x

Jesus Christ - I just woke up from a nap and saw this. Called my brother who's a Lt. w/the NYFD, works out of Ladder 12/Engine 1 near herald square. He said the cops are having everyone look at every single parked car, thinking there might be more.

MSNBC thinks something is up, they are really pressing home the fact that the police are expanding the evacuation zone.

720 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:28:06pm

re: #711 Sigma_x

Jesus Christ - I just woke up from a nap and saw this. Called my brother who's a Lt. w/the NYFD, works out of Ladder 12/Engine 1 near herald square. He said the cops are having everyone look at every single parked car, thinking there might be more.

God help them if there are more.

721 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:28:56pm

re: #718 Stanley Sea

So the honest mistake was that we were sending armed troopers (swat) teams to a oil rig disaster? Paranoia!

Those sea bass aren't anything to be fucked with.
/

722 Randall Gross  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:29:38pm

re: #711 Sigma_x

Yeah I figured as much, in London they had one at the disco one at a parking garage iirc correctly.

The usual drill is to park it nearby so it can be detonated when the emergency response teams show up, so the probability is low but those poor guys have to check.

723 Daniel Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:29:43pm

re: #713 austin_blue

Agreed in full.

724 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:29:58pm

re: #695 Reginald Perrin

There was an automatic, timed release, I don't have the name right, but there was a thingamagiggy, that could have been installed, before the well was drilled, that wasn't, because of the expense.
Well, not they've lost 11 lives, and a $700 million rig, and who knows where this will end?

725 Jadespring  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:30:00pm

John Cleese intones: "And now for something completely different."

Man Dies After Eel Eats Bowels From the Inside

A CHEF has died after an EEL was put up his bum.

Shocked doctors in Sichuan, China, found the sea creature in the 59-year-old man's rectum after his death, it has been reported.

The 50cm long Asian swamp eel was allegedly inserted into the unnamed man's bottom, after he passed out drunk, by pals playing a prank on him.

Medics said the eel had devoured his bowels.

726 jvic  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:30:01pm

re: #693 Thanos

CBS now reporting that there was powder, and an apparent timing device.
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

My thoughts are with the NYPD and authorities tonight. With what I'm hearing it does sound akin to past AQ attempts in London and other spots. The scary part being that there were usually multiple car bombs in those past events, even the failed ones. I know they are searching like mad right now just in case this isn't isolated.

AQ & the like are the probable perps, but I remember clearly that they were initially blamed after Oklahoma City.

727 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:30:02pm

re: #721 Cannadian Club Akbar

Those sea bass aren't anything to be fucked with.
/

oh LOL!!

728 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:30:11pm

AUSTIN BLUE - here's the interview, at the link in this post.


re: #81 NJDhockeyfan

Yesterday I was flipping arounf the radio dial in my car and Mark Levin was interviewing a guy who was on the oil rig when it exploded. It was a facinating interview. They have posted it on his website. It's worth a listen.

"James" - who was on the oil rig that blew in the Gulf - calls the Mark Levin Show and explains what occurred.

729 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:30:16pm

It's just a matter of time; they're gonna hit the subways in NYC or LA one of these days.

730 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:30:32pm

re: #725 Jadespring

John Cleese intones: "And now for something completely different."

Man Dies After Eel Eats Bowels From the Inside

He fell on it.
/

731 avanti  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:30:38pm

re: #707 reine.de.tout

There are back-ups to a failed activation of a BOP.
This happened so quickly that there was apparently no time to react.

I still have to think that somebody, somewhere, should have seen something and known that there was a problem. I don't see how they could not have known.

Many foreign rigs have to have a sonically activated backup valve. US companies didn't want it beacause of the 500K expense per well. gin

732 Randall Gross  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:31:16pm

re: #726 jvic

AQ & the like are the probable perps, but I remember clearly that they were initially blamed after Oklahoma City.

Yeah too soon to make the call but speculation is ok as long as you label it as such and use "if" a lot...

733 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:31:30pm

re: #731 avanti

Many foreign rigs have to have a sonically activated backup valve. US companies didn't want it beacause of the 500K expense per well. gin

As far as I know only Norway and Brazil require that.

734 austin_blue  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:31:44pm

re: #728 reine.de.tout

AUSTIN BLUE - here's the interview, at the link in this post.

Thankee!

735 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:32:09pm

re: #731 avanti

Many foreign rigs have to have a sonically activated backup valve. US companies didn't want it beacause of the 500K expense per well. gin

See, that's what my thingamagiggy was called!
Thanks, Avanti!

736 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:32:15pm

re: #716 Floral Giraffe

Oh, I liked Mandy :)

737 Daniel Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:32:33pm

re: #724 Floral Giraffe

Well there is a switch that they could have had. But until we know what went wrong we can not know if that would have helped. The robot sent to manually set the BOP valve failed to do the job. Maybe a bad valve? Its all so speculative.

738 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:32:57pm

re: #725 Jadespring

John Cleese intones: "And now for something completely different."

Man Dies After Eel Eats Bowels From the Inside


aaahhh, I'm gonna die after reading that.

other news...Undefeated boxing champ Floyd Mayweather Jr. defeats Shane Mosley in Las Vegas -

LA Times

[Link: bit.ly...]

739 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:33:11pm

re: #733 Gus 802

As far as I know only Norway and Brazil require that.

That deep, with what is now known to be at stake, we should be requiring it as well.

740 laZardo  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:33:14pm

re: #713 austin_blue

Agreed, but at some point it becomes a joke and almost a badge of honor. The alt.site is just so over the top that it's a parody of itself. I don't post anyplace but here. This joint is comfortable. It has a nice mix of right and left where policy can be discussed without (mostly) the kind of flame wars that turn other boards into one dimensional echo chambers. I really appreciate that.

I will also note that that wasn't the case when I was lurking here before starting to post. This board has become *much* more egalitarian in the last two years, and it is for the better.

What are those comics, and have I been on them? 8D

741 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:33:15pm

re: #717 Thanos

Not really. Levin has a team who works for him, Fact checking is part of the job for on air commentators. Honestly lazy mistake is more like it, since that is easy to check on.

That doesn't make him a 9/11 truther. I didn't hear about the other SWAT team until the next day. I'm not going to call Mark Levin a kook because of this unless I see more examples of similar stories told by Mark Levin.

742 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:33:20pm

re: #737 Rightwingconspirator

Did ya get the pics?

743 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:33:23pm

I keep thinking it's gonna be LA that gets hit - like how they went after the towers in '93, and didn't give up till they brought them down.

Let's not forget they went after LAX in 2000, and were thwarted in that attempt, too. I'm afraid it's just a matter of time before those cocksuckers finish the job.

744 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:33:31pm

Hat tip from Alouette's blog: yes, the French still tick me off.

745 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:33:34pm

re: #735 Floral Giraffe

See, that's what my thingamagiggy was called!
Thanks, Avanti!

thingamgiggy - term of art for everything.

746 laZardo  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:34:04pm

re: #725 Jadespring

John Cleese intones: "And now for something completely different."

Man Dies After Eel Eats Bowels From the Inside

When they said "eat shit and die," nobody suspected they'd mean it literally.

747 avanti  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:34:06pm

re: #737 Rightwingconspirator

Well there is a switch that they could have had. But until we know what went wrong we can not know if that would have helped. The robot sent to manually set the BOP valve failed to do the job. Maybe a bad valve? Its all so speculative.

We just need the sonic screwdriver, it'll open/close/fix anything.

748 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:34:14pm

re: #739 Floral Giraffe

That deep, with what is now known to be at stake, we should be requiring it as well.

That's what I was thinking. Might be a good investment opportunity with the particular manufacturers.

749 Reginald Perrin  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:34:32pm

re: #707 reine.de.tout

There are back-ups to a failed activation of a BOP.

That's not exactly what I meant. There has never been any planning for a scenario where the BHO failed to activate. This spill, like the one in Austrailia, need a second well to be drilled and that takes months. The regulators in Washington bought the lie from the oil companies who claimed that the BHO was foolproof.

750 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:34:49pm

re: #745 reine.de.tout

thingamgiggy - term of art for everything.

Which is connected to the doohickey, which connects to the whatsits.

751 SteveC  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:34:57pm

re: #745 reine.de.tout

thingamgiggy - term of art for everything.

No no no, That is a whatchamacallit!

752 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:35:11pm

re: #737 Rightwingconspirator

Well there is a switch that they could have had. But until we know what went wrong we can not know if that would have helped. The robot sent to manually set the BOP valve failed to do the job. Maybe a bad valve? Its all so speculative.

With the disaster potential, I thing that anything we could do do prevent it, should be considered.

Have you read Red Adair's biography?
Wonderful life story!
Pioneer, but on land. Wonder what he would have thought about this!

753 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:35:56pm

re: #696 NJDhockeyfan

Because Alex Jones likes Mark Levin, that makes Mark Levin a truther. OK, got it.

You only had to witness Levin's kerfuffle with Jim Manzi to not get the best impression of the guy.

754 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:36:11pm

re: #745 reine.de.tout

thingamgiggy - term of art for everything.

Whatchamacallit is good, too.
Doodad is always a favorite!
What's the Loosiana verzion?

755 SteveC  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:36:24pm

re: #752 Floral Giraffe

With the disaster potential, I thing that anything we could do do prevent it, should be considered.

Have you read Red Adair's biography?
Wonderful life story!
Pioneer, but on land. Wonder what he would have thought about this!

I was just thinking about him! Can we hire him or his company?

756 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:36:27pm

re: #743 Sigma_x

I keep thinking it's gonna be LA that gets hit - like how they went after the towers in '93, and didn't give up till they brought them down.

Let's not forget they went after LAX in 2000, and were thwarted in that attempt, too. I'm afraid it's just a matter of time before those cocksuckers finish the job.

Having a lovely reach for the stars night aren't you?

757 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:36:53pm

The NY Daily News is saying that the cops saw someone trying to light the fuse and the guy took off running.

How he was able to get away is beyond me. There's a cop for about every 12 square inches in Times Square.

758 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:36:58pm

re: #749 Reginald Perrin

That's not exactly what I meant. There has never been any planning for a scenario where the BHO failed to activate. This spill, like the one in Austrailia, need a second well to be drilled and that takes months. The regulators in Washington bought the lie from the oil companies who claimed that the BHO was foolproof.

Ah.
No, there was no planning for this sort of thing, that is obvious.

I saw a photo earlier to day of a welder who is just now building the dome thingamagiggy (to use Flo's term) that they think they can use to capture some of the oil as it flows out. They don't already have one. They're having to build it, now, after the fact. That makes no sense to me.

759 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:37:00pm

re: #754 Floral Giraffe

Whatchamacallit is good, too.
Doodad is always a favorite!
What's the Loosiana verzion?

Underwater BOP gizmo.

760 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:37:05pm

re: #753 Nimed

You only had to witness Levin's kerfuffle with Jim Manzi to not get the best impression of the guy.

Link?

761 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:37:43pm

re: #726 jvic

AQ & the like are the probable perps, but I remember clearly that they were initially blamed after Oklahoma City.

I remember being on the phone with my now-husband the morning of 9/11, and he said "They're saying Bin Laden," and I said "They always say that, they said it after Oklahoma. Wait and see."

And he said, "It's the WTC, he's gone after that before," and I said, "Goddamnit."

762 Jadespring  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:37:44pm

Test

763 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:37:47pm

re: #755 SteveC

He's dead, Jim.
I do think his company "Boots & Coots" might still be around.

764 avanti  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:37:50pm

re: #752 Floral Giraffe

With the disaster potential, I thing that anything we could do do prevent it, should be considered.

Have you read Red Adair's biography?
Wonderful life story!
Pioneer, but on land. Wonder what he would have thought about this!

Someone suggested, Red would have known better than to put out the oil fire before capping the well.

765 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:38:06pm

re: #757 Sigma_x

The NY Daily News is saying that the cops saw someone trying to light the fuse and the guy took off running.

How he was able to get away is beyond me. There's a cop for about every 12 square inches in Times Square.

That guy was probably a few blocks away before they had any idea what was going on.

766 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:38:26pm

re: #762 Jadespring

Pass.

767 Randall Gross  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:38:27pm

re: #741 NJDhockeyfan

That doesn't make him a 9/11 truther. I didn't hear about the other SWAT team until the next day. I'm not going to call Mark Levin a kook because of this unless I see more examples of similar stories told by Mark Levin.

Well I wouldn't label him Full Bull Goose Kook either, but he's certainly been waddling that direction a bit more lately.

768 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:38:29pm

re: #762 Jadespring

Test

Fail? Memorex?

769 Daniel Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:38:32pm

re: #742 Cannadian Club Akbar
Hi
What a great shoot! Had fun.
Yeah, I'll post them again. My favorites are at my photo blog. The good, bad and ugly at at a picasa web album for cropping etc. I have some wicked audio from a LaRouche guy. The "Obama Hero to Heroin" banner man. But that will require some edit and post work. I used the video function to get audio on the sly.

770 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:38:45pm

re: #756 Stanley Sea

Having a lovely reach for the stars night aren't you?

Nah, just freaks me out, this shit, is all.

It's part of the reason I left LA altogether, recently. Between fear of a terrorist attack and fear of an earthquake, I had to get the fuck out.

Waking up to find out there was a bomb in Times Square just has me rattled.

771 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:38:57pm

re: #754 Floral Giraffe

Whatchamacallit is good, too.
Doodad is always a favorite!
What's the Loosiana verzion?

whatchamacallit is used quite often.

772 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:38:58pm

re: #762 Jadespring

Test

Nobody said there was going to be a test tonight. I didn't even study.

773 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:40:05pm

re: #772 NJDhockeyfan

Nobody said there was going to be a test tonight. I didn't even study.

AND, THERE IS MATH INVOLVED!
Now, it's just wingnut math, so settle down.

774 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:40:15pm

re: #767 Thanos

Well I wouldn't label him Full Bull Goose Kook either, but he's certainly been waddling that direction a bit more lately.

Regardless, that interview I linked to is a great interview. One of the best I've heard on talk radio in a while.

775 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:40:17pm

re: #772 NJDhockeyfan

Nobody said there was going to be a test tonight. I didn't even study.

I'm just glad it isn't a pee pee test.
/

776 SteveC  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:40:39pm

re: #763 Floral Giraffe

He's dead, Jim.
I do think his company "Boots & Coots" might still be around.

John Wayne is dead?!?!?!

777 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:40:49pm

re: #770 Sigma_x

Nah, just freaks me out, this shit, is all.

It's part of the reason I left LA altogether, recently. Between fear of a terrorist attack and fear of an earthquake, I had to get the fuck out.

Waking up to find out there was a bomb in Times Square just has me rattled.

The lack of humidity allows me to very easily deal with the fear of both at this point.

Grab a cocktail?

778 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:40:59pm

re: #773 Floral Giraffe

AND, THERE IS MATH INVOLVED!
Now, it's just wingnut math, so settle down.

Wingnut math!

LOL

779 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:41:03pm

re: #744 SanFranciscoZionist

Hat tip from Alouette's blog: yes, the French still tick me off.

Still ticking me off, too, with that.

780 bagua  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:41:04pm

re: #731 avanti

Many foreign rigs have to have a sonically activated backup valve. US companies didn't want it beacause of the 500K expense per well. gin

It is still too early to say if an acoustic switch would have closed the BOP valve. It sounds like a problem with the valve itself as the attempts to activate it with submersibles has also failed.

781 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:41:15pm

re: #769 Rightwingconspirator

I'll hit it tomorrow. Glad you had fun. Were there corndogs?

782 Silvergirl  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:41:19pm

re: #775 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'm just glad it isn't a pee pee test.
/

Ice cream in the urine.

783 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:41:39pm

re: #760 Cannadian Club Akbar

Link?

Manzi's criticism of Levin's climate change chapter in "Liberty and Tiranny"
[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

Levin's response:
[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

Later, Levin called Jim Manzi a "global warming zealot", which is news for anybody who is at least vaguely familiar with Manzi's work on the topic.

784 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:41:59pm

re: #758 reine.de.tout

Latest information, I could find for you.
[Link: www.latimes.com...]

785 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:42:14pm

re: #782 Silvergirl

Ice cream in the urine.

Better than urine in the ice cream.

786 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:42:40pm

re: #783 Nimed

Manzi's criticism of Levin's climate change chapter in "Liberty and Tiranny"
[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

Levin's response:
[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

Later, Levin called Jim Manzi a "global warming zealot", which is news for anybody who is at least vaguely familiar with Manzi's work on the topic.

Hasn't Levin's new book been fact checked to oblivion? Not in a good way?

787 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:42:49pm

I've got to get some sleep. I'll check in the a.m. to see if Austin Blue has posted his assessment of the guy in the Levin interview. I'm very interested to hear his take on that interview. The Roi isn't home so I have no source for information right now.

788 Silvergirl  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:43:10pm

re: #785 NJDhockeyfan

Better than urine in the ice cream.

You're makin' me sick!

789 SteveC  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:43:14pm

re: #778 NJDhockeyfan

Wingnut math!

LOL

If a train leaves Chicago heading west at 100 miles per hour, and a train leaves L.A. heading east at 100 miles per hour, and these two trains collide just north of Provo, Utah, is it George Bush's fault?

790 avanti  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:43:19pm

Looks like they are getting ready to put the van on a roll back on live TV right now. Too many folks standing around the van for it to be a threat.

791 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:43:20pm

re: #783 Nimed

Cool. Always add a link when possible here. Nice job.

792 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:43:43pm

re: #784 Floral Giraffe

Latest information, I could find for you.
[Link: www.latimes.com...]

Thanks, Flo!

793 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:44:00pm

re: #787 reine.de.tout

I've got to get some sleep. I'll check in the a.m. to see if Austin Blue has posted his assessment of the guy in the Levin interview. I'm very interested to hear his take on that interview. The Roi isn't home so I have no source for information right now.

Sleep tight. Know that all that can be done, is being done, or getting in place.
{{Reine}}

794 jamesfirecat  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:44:09pm

re: #789 SteveC

If a train leaves Chicago heading west at 100 miles per hour, and a train leaves L.A. heading east at 100 miles per hour, and these two trains collide just north of Provo, Utah, is it George Bush's fault?

No it's Barack Obama's, next question?

795 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:44:11pm

re: #789 SteveC

If a train leaves Chicago heading west at 100 miles per hour, and a train leaves L.A. heading east at 100 miles per hour, and these two trains collide just north of Provo, Utah, is it George Bush's fault?

Yes!

796 Jadespring  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:44:18pm

re: #768 Cannadian Club Akbar

Fail? Memorex?

LGF was acting really weird. I couldn't figure out what was going on. I'd try to post and it would go wonky.

Finally figured it out. By accident I clicked the disable Java box in Firefox.

797 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:44:42pm

re: #789 SteveC

Nope, Al Sharptons.

798 Reginald Perrin  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:44:47pm

re: #758 reine.de.tout

I saw a photo earlier to day of a welder who is just now building the dome thingamagiggy (to use Flo's term) that they think they can use to capture some of the oil as it flows out. They don't already have one. They're having to build it, now, after the fact. That makes no sense to me.

Exactly, that was my point. There are no domes ready, there isn't enough dispersant or containment booms and there were no plans made or practice drills for a major spill.
Basically, they are just winging it.

799 bagua  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:44:58pm

re: #731 avanti

Many foreign rigs have to have a sonically activated backup valve. US companies didn't want it beacause of the 500K expense per well. gin

Note also that this is BP, the British Petroleum Company.

800 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:45:04pm

re: #794 jamesfirecat

No it's Barack Obama's, next question?

I blame society.

801 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:45:12pm

re: #797 Floral Giraffe

Nope, Al Sharptons.

Racist!

802 Nimed  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:45:38pm

re: #786 Stanley Sea

Hasn't Levin's new book been fact checked to oblivion? Not in a good way?

Not familiar with Levin's new book. Can you point to a review?

I never listened to Levin's show. But I must say I was not impressed by how he handled himself in this episode.

803 Silvergirl  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:45:38pm

re: #789 SteveC

If a train leaves Chicago heading west at 100 miles per hour, and a train leaves L.A. heading east at 100 miles per hour, and these two trains collide just north of Provo, Utah, is it George Bush's fault?

Probably Mitt Romney's fault if it involves Provo, Utah. Mormon country.

804 SteveC  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:45:58pm

re: #800 Cannadian Club Akbar

I blame society.

I question the timing.

805 jamesfirecat  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:45:59pm

re: #796 Jadespring

LGF was acting really weird. I couldn't figure out what was going on. I'd try to post and it would go wonky.

Finally figured it out. By accident I clicked the disable Java box in Firefox.

Would you drink your java in a box
Would you drink it wearing socks?
Would you drink it lased with lox?
Would you drink it with a burning fox?

806 jvic  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:46:01pm

re: #732 Thanos

Yeah too soon to make the call but speculation is ok as long as you label it as such and use "if" a lot...

Do let me clearly label the following implication as speculation.

The NYC incident took place on the same day as the immigration protests.

807 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:46:06pm

I've spent very little time here today.

What's up with that?

808 bagua  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:46:30pm

re: #804 SteveC

I question the timing.

I'm re-booting is safe mode.

809 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:46:38pm

re: #799 bagua

But, a British Company operating in the USA should be made to comply with USA standards.

*I Love the price of Arco gas*
Color me prejudiced.

810 Daniel Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:46:38pm

re: #781 Cannadian Club Akbar
There was good street food, grills with hot dogs and onions. Vendors with cut fruit and spiced stuff, all very aromatic.

811 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:46:50pm

re: #807 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I've spent very little time here today.

What's up with that?

Slacker.

812 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:46:53pm

re: #798 Reginald Perrin

I blame Brownie.

813 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:47:20pm

re: #807 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I've spent very little time here today.

What's up with that?

No pie, available?

814 avanti  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:47:53pm

re: #789 SteveC

If a train leaves Chicago heading west at 100 miles per hour, and a train leaves L.A. heading east at 100 miles per hour, and these two trains collide just north of Provo, Utah, is it George Bush's fault?

Here's one many get wrong. Assume a car crosses the starting line a 30 MPH and goes a half mile on a one mile track at that speed. Assuming instant acceleration, how fast will it have to go for the second half mile to average 60 MPH over the one mile.

815 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:48:07pm

re: #812 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I blame Brownie.

I think she had help from a Cub Scout.

816 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:48:08pm

Times has a great Sunday Crossword...

817 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:48:30pm

re: #802 Nimed

Not familiar with Levin's new book. Can you point to a review?

I never listened to Levin's show. But I must say I was not impressed by how he handled himself in this episode.

Ah, I've just read some blogs - Maybe The Atlantic. But I recall a fact check that didn't turn out so good. Look around.

818 avanti  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:48:47pm

re: #799 bagua

Note also that this is BP, the British Petroleum Company.

I should have said US regulations.

819 Jadespring  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:48:54pm

re: #814 avanti

Here's one many get wrong. Assume a car crosses the starting line a 30 MPH and goes a half mile on a one mile track at that speed. Assuming instant acceleration, how fast will it have to go for the second half mile to average 60 MPH over the one mile.

42 MPH

820 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:49:04pm

re: #813 Floral Giraffe

Trying to drop 20. Haven't had pie/cake in five weeks.

I think I'd rather have pie/cake.

821 jamesfirecat  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:49:14pm

re: #814 avanti

Here's one many get wrong. Assume a car crosses the starting line a 30 MPH and goes a half mile on a one mile track at that speed. Assuming instant acceleration, how fast will it have to go for the second half mile to average 60 MPH over the one mile.

I want to say 90 MPH but then it's just about 1:00 AM where I am at the moment....

822 SteveC  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:49:55pm

re: #814 avanti

Here's one many get wrong. Assume a car crosses the starting line a 30 MPH and goes a half mile on a one mile track at that speed. Assuming instant acceleration, how fast will it have to go for the second half mile to average 60 MPH over the one mile.

Fast enough!

(I'm a historian for cryin' out loud!!)

823 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:50:16pm

Hi... anything interesting happening tonight?

824 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:50:18pm

re: #820 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Trying to drop 20. Haven't had pie/cake in five weeks.

I think I'd rather have pie/cake.

Zone diet.

825 avanti  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:50:23pm

re: #821 jamesfirecat

I want to say 90 MPH but then it's just about 1:00 AM where I am at the moment...

That is by far the most popular wrong answer.

826 Stanghazi  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:50:32pm

and...I'm out!

Have a nice evening folks!

827 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:50:38pm

re: #823 Walter L. Newton

Hi... anything interesting happening tonight?

4011!!!

828 Silvergirl  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:51:00pm

re: #813 Floral Giraffe

No pie, available?

Will this keep him here?

Mmm!

(I don't know how to do the new picture thing. Hangs head.)

829 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:51:05pm

re: #827 Cannadian Club Akbar

4011!!!

Banana. News of the world?

830 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:51:10pm

Did RWC post any pics? Make any descriptions?

831 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:51:16pm

The trains will hit in Ogden, not Provo. Right above the golden spike, which is no longer there.

(That's where the transcontinental railroad was joined, and where the road went. This is why Ogden is one of the least-Mormon places in Utah, and Provo one of the most-Mormon places. Nobody down there but Mormons, originally.)

832 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:51:31pm

re: #829 Walter L. Newton

Banana. News of the world?

Yea. We're fucked.

833 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:51:39pm

re: #789 SteveC

If a train leaves Chicago heading west at 100 miles per hour, and a train leaves L.A. heading east at 100 miles per hour, and these two trains collide just north of Provo, Utah, is it George Bush's fault?

No, it's Obama's fault because one of the trains stated in Chicago

834 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:52:01pm

re: #827 Cannadian Club Akbar

4011!!!

You've been waiting all night to say that, haven't you???

835 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:52:03pm

re: #828 Silvergirl

Oh, gosh.

Drool on my shirt now, thanks.

836 SteveC  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:52:22pm

re: #831 EmmmieG

The trains will hit in Ogden, not Provo. Right above the golden spike, which is no longer there.

MY TRAIN! I can make it go where I want! :)

837 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:52:32pm

re: #769 Rightwingconspirator

Hi
What a great shoot! Had fun.
Yeah, I'll post them again. My favorites are at my photo blog. The good, bad and ugly at at a picasa web album for cropping etc. I have some wicked audio from a LaRouche guy. The "Obama Hero to Heroin" banner man. But that will require some edit and post work. I used the video function to get audio on the sly.

re: #830 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Did RWC post any pics? Make any descriptions?

838 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:53:01pm

re: #837 Cannadian Club Akbar

Grassy-ass.

839 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:53:06pm

re: #834 Varek Raith

You've been waiting all night to say that, haven't you???

I've said it twice. But yes. hehe.

840 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:53:43pm

Briefing on Times Square bomb scare
NYPD and other officials hold a briefing on the Times Square bomb scare.

[Link: abclocal.go.com...]

Supposed to start within the hour... Mayor Bloomberg

841 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:54:05pm

OK, what does 4011 mean? I must have missed an important thread.

842 Daniel Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:54:13pm

re: #838 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hi FBV!

843 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:54:23pm

Sorry to do this but I'm really worn out tonight, so I'm signing off. Goodnight, all.

844 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:54:44pm

I just look at Drudge and saw that story about the bomb in Times Square. Went to the article, saw some pictures. There were crowds all around Times Square.

That's what I love about New Yorker... tough as nails, not really afraid of anything, more curious than anything.

I would be surprised if you could actually find many New Yorker afraid of much of anything, cautious yes, smart, street wise, yes... afraid... naw.

845 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:54:46pm

re: #843 Dark_Falcon

Sorry to do this but I'm really worn out tonight, so I'm signing off. Goodnight, all.

Flounce!

846 Irenicum  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:55:56pm

re: #844 Walter L. Newton

The only thing this New Yorker was ever scared of were the freakishly large roaches in my brothers apartment. Nasty bastards!

847 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:56:03pm

re: #841 NJDhockeyfan

OK, what does 4011 mean? I must have missed an important thread.

Walter works at a store. The code for bananas is 4011. Then someone posted on a thread an ad for boneless bananas. You need to spend more time here.
/

848 Silvergirl  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:56:15pm

re: #820 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Trying to drop 20. Haven't had pie/cake in five weeks.

I think I'd rather have pie/cake.

You'll have to change your nic.

849 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:56:36pm

Some of the more choice comments over at HotAir tonight re: Times Square Bomb...

"whether it was ELF or AlQaeda, or anarchists, they’re all groups your beloved President seems to give a pass to at every turn…
Glad your family is safe… but you need to wake the f_ck up buddy.
Safe? Obama could give a crap if we’re safe!"

"Given the incompetent we have at the helm, we must be vigilant at local levels, because no help is coming from the Socialist in Chief."

"That is two close calls under Neville Hussein Obama."

"Used to live in NY…now in DC..but I’m afraid NY is the top target again to make a statement…thank goodness for local authorities…because the asshole that lives down the street is doing everything he can to destroy us…on every level…"

There wasn't anything even close to this level of blind seething hatred being directed towards Bush after 9/11 (aside from My Pet Goat-gate.) These people are insane.

850 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:56:37pm

re: #837 Cannadian Club Akbar


"This is stolen land"

I have an extreme dislike for the person in that picture.

Isn't just about every little parcel of property on the planet Earth kinda stolen.

By stolen, I mean taken by someone stronger than the wimp who lived there before.

851 austin_blue  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:56:48pm

re: #728 reine.de.tout

AUSTIN BLUE - here's the interview, at the link in this post.

Again, thanks Reine.

Great interview from the caller's standpoint, but Levin is an idiot as far as drilling is concerned. Some of his questions made me cringe.

So the real question is, how did that much natural gas get around the cement seal of the production casing to blow out the well? And why did the seabed BOP assembly fail so miserably in closing the well bore?

In the meantime, the Gulf Coast gets it in the neck due to technology's Epic Fail.

852 avanti  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:56:51pm

Late report: Man seen running from the SUV may have been the guy going to report smoke to cops.

853 Jadespring  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:56:56pm

re: #825 avanti

That is by far the most popular wrong answer.

What's the answer?

854 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:57:01pm

re: #846 Irenicum

The only thing this New Yorker was ever scared of were the freakishly large roaches in my brothers apartment. Nasty bastards!

Is his name Joe?
/see how long this joke takes

855 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:57:10pm

re: #842 Rightwingconspirator

Hi FBV!

Glad yer still wif us.

856 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:57:14pm

re: #847 Cannadian Club Akbar

Walter works at a store. The code for bananas is 4011. Then someone posted on a thread an ad for boneless bananas. You need to spend more time here.
/

Did you see the pictures of those really funny looking 4225's... I was rolling on the floor.

857 Irenicum  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:57:45pm

re: #854 Cannadian Club Akbar

Trying to stoke a conversation?

858 jamesfirecat  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:57:52pm

re: #849 Sigma_x

Some of the more choice comments over at HotAir tonight re: Times Square Bomb...

"whether it was ELF or AlQaeda, or anarchists, they’re all groups your beloved President seems to give a pass to at every turn…
Glad your family is safe… but you need to wake the f_ck up buddy.
Safe? Obama could give a crap if we’re safe!"

"Given the incompetent we have at the helm, we must be vigilant at local levels, because no help is coming from the Socialist in Chief."

"That is two close calls under Neville Hussein Obama."

"Used to live in NY…now in DC..but I’m afraid NY is the top target again to make a statement…thank goodness for local authorities…because the asshole that lives down the street is doing everything he can to destroy us…on every level…"

There wasn't anything even close to this level of blind seething hatred being directed towards Bush after 9/11 (aside from My Pet Goat-gate.) These people are insane.

Just one thing...

"Neville Hussein Obama."?

Oh yeah our President is only man enough to cut a gigantic snake in half while he's got a flaming hat jammed on his head!

859 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:57:53pm

re: #849 Sigma_x


There wasn't anything even close to this level of blind seething hatred being directed towards Bush after 9/11 (aside from My Pet Goat-gate.) These people are insane.

You've got to be kidding.

860 Reginald Perrin  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:57:58pm

re: #809 Floral Giraffe

But, a British Company operating in the USA should be made to comply with USA standards.

They do comply with American standards, the problem is that the standards in the USA are not as stringent as they are in Norway and Brazil. The oil companies have successful lobbied against tougher standards

861 sadhu  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:58:09pm

BRIEFING ON TIMES SQUARE BOMB SCARE
NYPD and other officials to hold a briefing on the Times Square bomb scare.

[Link: abclocal.go.com...]

862 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:58:35pm

re: #849 Sigma_x

Neville?

863 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:58:37pm

Hey, I was thinking - the bomb was on 45th st., right? Between 7th and 8th?

That's right near the MTV building. MTV owns Comedy Central. Comedy Central put out the South Park cartoon.

Maybe...

864 Daniel Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:58:42pm

re: #855 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Alive and drinking.

865 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:58:45pm

re: #850 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I have an extreme dislike for the person in that picture.

Isn't just about every little parcel of property on the planet Earth kinda stolen.

By stolen, I mean taken by someone stronger than the wimp who lived there before.

Yes. And I'm sleeping on your porch, btw.
/

866 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:58:50pm

re: #848 Silvergirl

You'll have to change your nic.

Nah. I'll always be a pretty big veggie.

867 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:59:20pm

re: #862 marjoriemoon

Neville?

Neville Chamberlin, the British PM who was accused of appeasing Hitler after Munich.

868 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:59:21pm

re: #852 avanti

Late report: Man seen running from the SUV may have been the guy going to report smoke to cops.

Any word if there are cameras recording that area?

869 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:59:35pm

re: #857 Irenicum

Trying to stoke a conversation?

It's a movie.

870 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:59:52pm

re: #868 NJDhockeyfan

Any word if there are cameras recording that area?

There are cameras all over Times Square.

871 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 9:59:58pm

re: #863 Sigma_x

Hey, I was thinking - the bomb was on 45th st., right? Between 7th and 8th?

That's right near the MTV building. MTV owns Comedy Central. Comedy Central put out the South Park cartoon.

Maybe...

Good point.

872 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:00:13pm

re: #867 Sigma_x

Neville Chamberlin, the British PM who was accused of appeasing Hitler after Munich.

Ooooh. I was thinking of the Neville brothers and that just didn't seem right.

873 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:00:36pm

re: #850 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I have an extreme dislike for the person in that picture.

Isn't just about every little parcel of property on the planet Earth kinda stolen.

By stolen, I mean taken by someone stronger than the wimp who lived there before.

The Basques beg to differ. They believe they are the originals.

Lesse...Basques, Ainu, Aborigines? Any others that claim to be the first people to squat there?

874 avanti  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:00:36pm

re: #853 Jadespring

What's the answer?

Think time, not speed. 60 MPH is a mile a minute, going 30 MPH for the first half mile takes one minute, so even at the speed of light, you'd never make a 60 MPH average.

875 Sigma_x  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:00:41pm

re: #872 marjoriemoon

Ooooh. I was thinking of the Neville brothers and that just didn't seem right.

Too funny.

876 SteveC  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:00:46pm

re: #870 Walter L. Newton

There are cameras all over Times Square.

No, I don't mean the Japanese tourists...

///

877 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:00:52pm

re: #865 Cannadian Club Akbar

Bring it.

878 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:01:24pm

re: #872 marjoriemoon

Ooooh. I was thinking of the Neville brothers and that just didn't seem right.

I don't think Obama can sing that well.

879 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:01:48pm

re: #877 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Bring it.

By "Bring it."... I mean, can you bring me some pie?

880 bagua  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:01:56pm

re: #818 avanti

I should have said US regulations.

Indeed, but there are two issues here, regulations and industry best practices. The UK also does not require Acoustic Switches, but some companies choose to use them as a standard practice. I reckon both will adopt these switches, regardless of the cause of this failure.

881 Daniel Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:02:15pm

re: #752 Floral Giraffe

We need his kind. I think we will also need the 12 month rule. Or whatever it takes on an investigation as if a crashed airliner was found at 5000 feet of depth.

882 laZardo  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:02:31pm

Gonna go visit my ailing/dying grandmother. Cheers.

883 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:02:33pm

re: #878 NJDhockeyfan

I don't think Obama can sing that well.

Neither can the Neville Brothers.

Ohhhhhh!!!!!!

884 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:02:47pm

Scrolling through the pictures now. Someone needs to tell the girls holding the signs saying "Stop the Nazis" that we did stop the Nazis, and they're weakening their argument.

885 jamesfirecat  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:03:10pm

re: #872 marjoriemoon

Ooooh. I was thinking of the Neville brothers and that just didn't seem right.

Meanwhile I was clearly thinking Neville Longbottom from Harry Potter....

886 SteveC  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:03:38pm

re: #878 NJDhockeyfan

I don't think Obama can sing that well.

Leno at the correspondents dinner tonight had a video of the living presidents singing "War!" with Obama doing the lead.

All: War!

Obama: What is it good for?

All: Absolutely nothing!

887 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:03:40pm

re: #876 SteveC

No, I don't mean the Japanese tourists...

///

So... 3 years ago... Jan. winter in Paris... decided this would be a good time to hit some of the museums that are normally much more crowded in the spring and summer.

Louvre... dead of winter in Jan. The place is almost empty of almost any visitors EXCEPT hundred of Japanese... they are the most vacationing bunch of people you could ever meet... no matter where or when...

888 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:03:47pm

re: #884 EmmmieG

Scrolling through the pictures now. Someone needs to tell the girls holding the signs saying "Stop the Nazis" that we did stop the Nazis, and they're weakening their argument.

Which pictures?

889 jamesfirecat  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:04:34pm

re: #886 SteveC

Leno at the correspondents dinner tonight had a video of the living presidents singing "War!" with Obama doing the lead.

All: War!

Obama: What is it good for?

All: Absolutely nothing!

Is it racist of me to instantly think of that scene from Rush Hour?

890 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:04:41pm

re: #888 NJDhockeyfan

Which pictures?

Prolly RWC's pics.

891 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:04:45pm

re: #883 marjoriemoon

DING!

I swear! Aaron sounds like bad AM Radio reception.

892 avanti  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:05:08pm

NYPD quote: "Device appears to be a crude car bomb."

893 SteveC  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:05:14pm

NYPD Bomb Squad is saying it is a crude car bomb.

They'd be the people who know.

894 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:05:29pm

Oy

895 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:05:45pm

re: #891 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

DING!

I swear! Aaron sounds like bad AM Radio reception.

Everytime we drove under a bridge you couldn't hear Aaron sing.

896 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:05:50pm

re: #892 avanti

re: #893 SteveC

Same time stamp. Down to the second.

897 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:05:51pm

re: #891 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

DING!

I swear! Aaron sounds like bad AM Radio reception.

Ack! I was never a fan. And Linda Ronstadt was helping either.

898 What, me worry?  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:06:07pm

WASN'T

899 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:06:07pm

re: #887 Walter L. Newton

UFO's don't appear in Japan.

Everybody has a camera. And fuckin' knows how to use it!

900 Daniel Ballard  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:06:16pm

re: #888 NJDhockeyfan

Maybe these...
[Link: picasaweb.google.com...]

901 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:07:00pm

re: #888 NJDhockeyfan

re: #769 Rightwingconspirator

Hi
What a great shoot! Had fun.
Yeah, I'll post them again. My favorites are at my photo blog. The good, bad and ugly at at a picasa web album for cropping etc. I have some wicked audio from a LaRouche guy. The "Obama Hero to Heroin" banner man. But that will require some edit and post work. I used the video function to get audio on the sly.

902 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:07:01pm

re: #899 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

UFO's don't appear in Japan.

Everybody has a camera. And fuckin' knows how to use it!

Meanwhile, in Gulfport Florida...

903 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:07:18pm

re: #899 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

UFO's don't appear in Japan.

Everybody has a camera. And fuckin' knows how to use it!

That's because UFOs only visit that one lonely Airstream in the middle of the Mojave Desert.

904 SteveC  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:07:32pm

re: #896 Cannadian Club Akbar

Same time stamp. Down to the second.

*Fistbump avanti*

905 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:08:02pm

Ok...

All the conservative... head over to the overnight thread... all liberal... stay here :)

906 Varek Raith  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:09:08pm

re: #905 Walter L. Newton

Ok...

All the conservative... head over to the overnight thread... all liberal... stay here :)

Where the hell am I supposed to go?!?!?!
/

907 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:09:15pm

OK We're going on the air...

Press conference is about to start up...

[Link: abclocal.go.com...]

Sound check now.

908 Jadespring  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:09:17pm

re: #887 Walter L. Newton

So... 3 years ago... Jan. winter in Paris... decided this would be a good time to hit some of the museums that are normally much more crowded in the spring and summer.

Louvre... dead of winter in Jan. The place is almost empty of almost any visitors EXCEPT hundred of Japanese... they are the most vacationing bunch of people you could ever meet... no matter where or when...

The red light district in Amsterdam was full of groups of them all huddled together with their cameras. It was hilarious and so out of place.

909 SteveC  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:09:29pm

re: #905 Walter L. Newton

Ok...

All the conservative... head over to the overnight thread... all liberal... stay here :)

All getting sleepy (that includes me!) are heading to bed!

Night all!

910 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:09:37pm

re: #860 Reginald Perrin

They do comply with American standards, the problem is that the standards in the USA are not as stringent as they are in Norway and Brazil. The oil companies have successful lobbied against tougher standards

For now....

911 avanti  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:10:27pm

re: #904 SteveC

*Fistbump avanti*

Fox report: Terrorist Fist Bump ?"


"On June 3, 2008, Barack Obama and his wife Michelle Obama shared a report during a televised presidential campaign speech in St. Paul, Minnesota. Fox News host E.D. Hill, in a "tease" for an unrelated story, paraphrased an anonymous internet comment characterizing the gesture as a "terrorist fist jab", and the gesture became known as "The Fist Bump heard 'Round the World". A reporter on one local Fox affiliate also mistakenly called the gesture fisting.

912 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:10:40pm

re: #907 Gus 802

OK We're going on the air...

Press conference is about to start up...

[Link: abclocal.go.com...]

Sound check now.

Check...check....one...two...check...is this thing on?

913 bagua  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:12:04pm

re: #907 Gus 802

I logged on and the speaker said: "I've got one in the trunk, Bwahahaha"

Dude must not realise he's on live TV.

914 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:12:49pm

re: #856 Walter L. Newton

Did you see the pictures of those really funny looking 4225's... I was rolling on the floor.

It's really funny once you start to learn the codes for stuff. I can remember some of the style numbers of my best selling items, 15 years later. The 155 for example. I sold THOUSANDS of them. And, then there was the S122. Sold 10,000 of them. Had the President fo the company call to ask "What's a savonette". LOL! It's French for soap, why do you ask. We'd sold 1/2 my inventory in the first week & he wanted to fund me to buy more!
(You didn't get funded very often!)

915 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:12:52pm

re: #913 bagua

I logged on and the speaker said: "I've got one in the trunk, Bwahahaha"

Dude must not realise he's on live TV.

Yeah, he was about to go off there and I think someone just reminded him that he was live.

916 Silvergirl  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:13:17pm

re: #849 Sigma_x

Some of the more choice comments over at HotAir tonight re: Times Square Bomb...

"whether it was ELF or AlQaeda, or anarchists, they’re all groups your beloved President seems to give a pass to at every turn…
Glad your family is safe… but you need to wake the f_ck up buddy.
Safe? Obama could give a crap if we’re safe!"

"Given the incompetent we have at the helm, we must be vigilant at local levels, because no help is coming from the Socialist in Chief."

"That is two close calls under Neville Hussein Obama."

"Used to live in NY…now in DC..but I’m afraid NY is the top target again to make a statement…thank goodness for local authorities…because the asshole that lives down the street is doing everything he can to destroy us…on every level…"

There wasn't anything even close to this level of blind seething hatred being directed towards Bush after 9/11 (aside from My Pet Goat-gate.) These people are insane.

You're comparing reactions to today's events with reactions to 9-11? Truly?

The grousing above, if we truly had another 9-11 would give way to hanging on the President's every word, no matter who he is, and the country would come together for a time. We would see flags flapping off car antennas, and politicians would sing together--Democrats and Republicans alike.

917 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:13:34pm

re: #913 bagua

I logged on and the speaker said: "I've got one in the trunk, Bwahahaha"

Dude must not realise he's on live TV.

I used to have a C-band satellite dish. The news feeds were a riot.

918 Reginald Perrin  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:14:07pm

re: #910 Floral Giraffe

For now...

Locking the barn door after the horse has bolted.

919 bagua  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:14:37pm

re: #915 Gus 802

Yeah, he was about to go off there and I think someone just reminded him that he was live.

Yep, prat.

920 Gus  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:15:01pm

Look! A podium!

I think they're going over the breifing with the choreographers and artistic directors first. Mayor Bloomberg is still in makeup.

/

921 bratwurst  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:15:46pm

re: #918 Reginald Perrin

Locking the barn door after the horse has bolted.

You do realize that your every post is voiced in my head by Brian the dog, right? I guess that is why I can't help but upding!

922 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:15:51pm

re: #918 Reginald Perrin

Locking the barn door after the horse has bolted.

Building a fence between the US & Mexico.
Same song, different tune!

923 prairiefire  Sat, May 1, 2010 10:32:40pm

re: #318 Varek Raith

FWIW, I've been seeing these commercials before this disaster.

I think the commercials were shot at the time of the Exxon Valdez spill.

924 Mich-again  Sun, May 2, 2010 7:01:37am

I think Robert Stacy McCain should buy the Washington Times with whats left over in his blog's tip jar after he buys enough booze and cigarettes to get him through the week. That should give him about $2, anyways.


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