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Today’s insanity break is a cleverly rhythmic short film by Renaud Hall�e, titled Gravité.
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Charles Johnson Tue, May 4, 2010 3:30:14pm |
Yay. I just found a way to significantly speed up the paging code on several LGF pages. How come nobody ever told me about the SQL_CALC_FOUND_ROWS directive? Using it in the queries for the Linkage page and the search pages has cut the back-end processing time in half.
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wrenchwench Tue, May 4, 2010 3:32:51pm |
re: #1 Charles
How come nobody ever told me about the SQL_CALC_FOUND_ROWS directive?
I thought you’d have a greater sense of accomplishment if I let you discover it yourself.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 4, 2010 3:35:05pm |
I’m going to dinner soon, so I’m signing off to get ready.
BBL
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Charles Johnson Tue, May 4, 2010 3:38:07pm |
There have been more refinements in LGF Linkage too — there’s now a login panel.
And I set up some special URLs for accessing Linkage. You can get to any lizard’s Linkage page by using a URL like this:
littlegreenfootballs.com/linkage/Charles
If the username has spaces, replace them with + signs like this:
littlegreenfootballs.com/linkage/Kragar+(Proud+to+be+Kafir)
The live links to try it out:
littlegreenfootballs.com
littlegreenfootballs.com
This means that every LGF user’s Linkage blog has its own URL with their name in it. Snazzy.
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Charles Johnson Tue, May 4, 2010 3:40:27pm |
re: #8 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Hey, I’m an example!
Not a very good one. What’s up with the blank page over there in the Linkage thingy?
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wrenchwench Tue, May 4, 2010 3:41:42pm |
re: #7 Charles
I’m going to have to quit my day job to have time for all this.
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Kragar Tue, May 4, 2010 3:42:19pm |
re: #9 Charles
Not a very good one. What’s up with the blank page over there in the Linkage thingy?
I just don’t link much
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Charles Johnson Tue, May 4, 2010 3:42:26pm |
By the way, web geeks — notice how on Kragar’s blank page, the footer stays nicely at the bottom of the window, even though there’s no content pushing it down there. That’s harder than it seems; I finally figured out a nifty little CSS trick to do it.
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Charles Johnson Tue, May 4, 2010 3:46:34pm |
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 3:47:10pm |
re: #12 Charles
Hey charles, hate to be needy, but is there any chance of a mobile page? I’d love to be able to log in at work ;)
(if this q has been answered a ton of times, sorry :p)
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Walter L. Newton Tue, May 4, 2010 3:49:40pm |
Update… most current news article on the wildfire on my street claims it’s 50 percent contained, and that 340 homes evacuated… actually I don’t see any smoke at the top of the hill above me (3/4 of a mile, where the picture in the article was taken)… I know 340 homes received an reverse 911 call from the country telling us of the fire… but most of my neighbors never left… a lot of use walked or drove up hill to the top of the mountain to see what was going on… a lot of smoke.. fire had come almost to the edge of the road…. but nothing damaged…
We had up to 67 mile an hour winds today… has been knocking out electricity off and on since 4:00 am… this fire was caused by downed power line…
The sherifs department just let my step kids into the neighborhood with their ID’s… but they are keeping out all other vehicles for now… over cautious… but that’s good… you can’t be too careful in a situation like this… if you don’t keep control, you could have a real disaster on your hands if the shit really hits the fan…
Read if interested…
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Four More Tears Tue, May 4, 2010 3:50:57pm |
Oh wow. Linkage comments show up in the master spy, too. You outdid yourself, Charles.
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Kragar Tue, May 4, 2010 3:51:23pm |
Never expect to read anything like this in the LA Times:
American labor is stuck in the past. It’s time for the Democrats to take a hard look at their ally
Do you have to love labor unions to be a good Democrat? That was the question raised last year by the unpopular bailouts of unionized Detroit automakers. It’s been raised again this year by California’s budget crisis, created at least in part by generous pensions for unionized public employees. I think the answer is no. It’s time for Democrats, even liberal Democrats, to start looking at unions and unionism with deep skepticism.
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reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 3:51:35pm |
The new linkage with the bookmarklet is incredibly cool.
I was at a site, clicked the bookmarklet, and the site’s URL was pasted in their automatically (no copy/paste by me needed). Easy as pie.
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darthstar Tue, May 4, 2010 3:52:20pm |
Okay…I tried to post a link to my (still empty) page and all I got was a message saying “This URL has already been posted”…This is the internet! Redundancy is king!
Oh, and here’s what I wanted to post…Gibbs’ taking the Fox dickheads down a peg.
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Four More Tears Tue, May 4, 2010 3:53:04pm |
re: #20 darthstar
Okay…I tried to post a link to my (still empty) page and all I got was a message saying “This URL has already been posted”…This is the internet! Redundancy is king!
Oh, and here’s what I wanted to post…Gibbs’ taking the Fox dickheads down a peg.
[Video]
I posted that, like, five minutes ago :P
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darthstar Tue, May 4, 2010 3:54:38pm |
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Killgore Trout Tue, May 4, 2010 4:02:58pm |
Gibbs Slams Fox News For Michael Brown Interview
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darthstar Tue, May 4, 2010 4:05:10pm |
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Four More Tears Tue, May 4, 2010 4:05:33pm |
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Aceofwhat? Tue, May 4, 2010 4:07:55pm |
re: #18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Never expect to read anything like this in the LA Times:
American labor is stuck in the past. It’s time for the Democrats to take a hard look at their ally
link it!
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Gus Tue, May 4, 2010 4:08:34pm |
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darthstar Tue, May 4, 2010 4:10:47pm |
And whoever decided to change the Knickerbocker jerseys to read “Nueva York” deserves a palo-cinco as well.
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Gus Tue, May 4, 2010 4:10:58pm |
Right-wing media sees “sabotage” in oil spill
Limbaugh: “Environmental whackos” may have blown up oil rig to “head off more oil drilling.” On his April 29 radio show, Rush Limbaugh questioned “the timing” of the explosion and said: “Lest we forget … the cap and trade bill was strongly criticized by hardcore environmentalist whackos because it supposedly allowed more offshore drilling and nuclear plants.” Limbaugh added: “[W]hat better way to head off more oil drilling and nuclear plants then by blowing up a rig? I’m just, I’m just noting the timing here.”
Perino: “[W]as this deliberate?” On the May 3 broadcast of Fox News’ Fox & Friends, Fox News contributor Dana Perino said of the spill: “I’m not trying to introduce a conspiracy theory, but was this deliberate? You have to wonder…if there was sabotage involved.”
Eric Bolling falsely claimed it was “nine days before” the leak “was even addressed” and asked, “Did they let this thing leak? … if they’re going to try and pull drilling, that may be the way they do it.” On the same broadcast of Fox & Friends, Fox Business Network host Eric Bolling said: “The question is … why the delay in the response? You guys were pointing out, nine days before it was even addressed, 12 days before he made a formal comment. The question is, did they let this thing leak? I mean, BP said maybe a thousand barrels a day, it went to five thousand. Did they let it leak a little bit and say, boy I don’t know. The conspiracy theorists would say, ‘maybe they’d let it leak for a while, and then they addressed the issue.’” Bolling added: “That would be a humongous accusation and probably the net result would be no different, but if they’re going to try and pull drilling, that may be the way they do it.”
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darthstar Tue, May 4, 2010 4:11:54pm |
re: #28 Gus 802
re: #23 Killgore Trout
What a crock of shit on the part of Faux News. Of all people bringing out that failure of a FEMA administrator, Michael Brown. This only to promote the wingnut conspiracy theories they busy creating regarding Obama’s response to the oil spill.
Best part of Gibbs’ take-down:
GIBBS: You should call headquarters, my friend, and ask for somebody who makes the decisions to put people like that — because I’ve got to tell you Wendall, I’m not entirely sure a factual answer that I might give to any one of your questions is going to change the notion that your network put out the former FEMA director to make an accusation that the well had been purposefully set off in order to change an offshore drilling decision.
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tradewind Tue, May 4, 2010 4:14:31pm |
re: #20 darthstar
Whining and bitching about reporting is not the same thing as ’ taking them down a peg’.
You know it’s bad when nutjobs like DU ask ’ Is Robert Gibbs the Worst Press Secretary Ever ‘?….. something most of the MSM has been saying for months.
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Gus Tue, May 4, 2010 4:14:51pm |
re: #31 darthstar
Brownie was a disgrace. I actually called up my rep and asked for him to be removed because of hurricane Katrina. A few days later he was gone due in large part to the large public outcry against this idiot. Now they’re bringing him out to be a critic of the Obama administration’s handling of this oil spill? What are they on drugs or something?
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tradewind Tue, May 4, 2010 4:15:08pm |
re: #30 Gus 802
No matter… we know that the administration was ’ on it ’ from Day One.
Or something.
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reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 4:15:31pm |
re: #30 Gus 802
Good gawd.
The people investigating this incident know exactly what happened, by now.
Now the task is to interview people to confirm who did what, and then write a report.
This was purely accidental, a failure of equipment or attention or both.
If it was anything else, we would have heard something definite by now.
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tradewind Tue, May 4, 2010 4:18:32pm |
re: #31 darthstar
LOL.
I’m not entirely sure a factual answer I might give
….. so he categorizes his answers into factual and non?
And at least he admits that his accusation is ’ a notion ‘, and not one of his ’ factual answers ‘.
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Gus Tue, May 4, 2010 4:18:39pm |
re: #35 reine.de.tout
Good gawd.
The people investigating this incident know exactly what happened, by now.Now the task is to interview people to confirm who did what, and then write a report.
This was purely accidental, a failure of equipment or attention or both.
If it was anything else, we would have heard something definite by now.
Yeah. Here comes another round of congressional hearings and countless reports. I’m sure millions will be spent only to come to the conclusion regarding the events that took place at the drilling site and not based on conjecture, hearsay, and conspiracy theories. The Coast Guard is not in the business of plugging up blow outs.
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darthstar Tue, May 4, 2010 4:18:46pm |
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Bagua Tue, May 4, 2010 4:18:50pm |
re: #35 reine.de.tout
Good gawd.
The people investigating this incident know exactly what happened, by now.Now the task is to interview people to confirm who did what, and then write a report.
This was purely accidental, a failure of equipment or attention or both.
If it was anything else, we would have heard something definite by now.
Actually it may prove impossible to determine the exact failure point, even if the BOP is brought to the surface, all the pressure flowing through it for so long will have caused damage.
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Stanley Sea Tue, May 4, 2010 4:19:31pm |
re: #30 Gus 802
And of course by fostering the conspiracy theories, they are fucking letting BP et al off the hook.
These people are more of an enemy than any right wingnut dares to admit. I’m gonna lose it.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, May 4, 2010 4:20:01pm |
re: #33 Gus 802
Brownie was a disgrace. I actually called up my rep and asked for him to be removed because of hurricane Katrina. A few days later he was gone due in large part to the large public outcry against this idiot. Now they’re bringing him out to be a critic of the Obama administration’s handling of this oil spill? What are they on drugs or something?
Now let’s try to get him off KOA every night… he is SOOOOOO stupid.
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darthstar Tue, May 4, 2010 4:20:25pm |
OT: got a raise today. Not bad, considering I’ve only been here 7 months.
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Gus Tue, May 4, 2010 4:20:34pm |
re: #39 Bagua
Actually it may prove impossible to determine the exact failure point, even if the BOP is brought to the surface, all the pressure flowing through it for so long will have caused damage.
True. I will prove difficult to find the exact cause when it may be lying 5,000 feet below sea level.
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RogueOne Tue, May 4, 2010 4:21:00pm |
re: #43 darthstar
OT: got a raise today. Not bad, considering I’ve only been here 7 months.
Yeah, well, I got a ticket so fuck you and your raise.//
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Four More Tears Tue, May 4, 2010 4:21:01pm |
Charles? Does Scandinavia really merit its own Linkage category? It just struck me as odd.
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Gus Tue, May 4, 2010 4:21:15pm |
re: #42 Walter L. Newton
Now let’s try to get him off KOA every night… he is SOOO stupid.
He’s got his own radio show? I do remember those stupid emails he was sending during the hurricane crisis.
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darthstar Tue, May 4, 2010 4:21:26pm |
re: #36 tradewind
LOL.
… so he categorizes his answers into factual and non?
And at least he admits that his accusation is ’ a notion ‘, and not one of his ’ factual answers ‘.
Yes, that’s exactly the point. All the answers are lies, and anything Fox presents is the truth. You get a prize.
/
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tradewind Tue, May 4, 2010 4:21:29pm |
re: #40 Stanley Sea
BP’s not getting off the hook.
Even if there was equipment failure due to substandard material, even if someone had interfered with the operation of the rig, the buck still stops at BP….. they are responsible for the operation, maintenance, and security of the rig.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, May 4, 2010 4:21:40pm |
re: #41 tradewind
Stay safe Walter.
I think we are all safe now… they said about an hour ago it was 50 percent contained, but I haven’t seen an ounce of smoke for almost 3 hours… so, I suspect there’s just a delay in getting info out from the scene to the public.
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darthstar Tue, May 4, 2010 4:23:08pm |
re: #45 RogueOne
Yeah, well, I got a ticket so fuck you and your raise.//
I got pulled over on Saturday for a California stop. Fortunately, I had the Giants game on the radio and the cop was more interested in that and gave me a warning, but then he looked at my driver’s license and realized (as I did at that moment) that it expired at the end of March…so now I’ve got to go to the DMV and get it renewed (yes, Charles…I’ll get to take the test) and also pay the 100 dollar ‘convenience fine’ that will come along with it.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, May 4, 2010 4:23:15pm |
re: #47 Gus 802
He’s got his own radio show? I do remember those stupid emails he was sending during the hurricane crisis.
He’s on 5 nights a week, on KOA, 7-10, took over Gunny Bob Newmans spot… dumbness for 3 hours a night. I hate baseball, but if there is anything good about the games, it frequently preempts him because of night games.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 4, 2010 4:23:36pm |
re: #43 darthstar
OT: got a raise today. Not bad, considering I’ve only been here 7 months.
Darthstar is buying tonight!
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tradewind Tue, May 4, 2010 4:23:38pm |
re: #48 darthstar
Ahhh, quitcherbitchin….. you got the raise.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, May 4, 2010 4:23:39pm |
re: #43 darthstar
OT: got a raise today. Not bad, considering I’ve only been here 7 months.
Charles pays you to be here?
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darthstar Tue, May 4, 2010 4:24:34pm |
re: #55 Walter L. Newton
Charles pays you to be here?
Here at my company…I’ve only been at LGF for five months.
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Gus Tue, May 4, 2010 4:25:06pm |
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wrenchwench Tue, May 4, 2010 4:25:26pm |
re: #46 JasonA
Charles? Does Scandinavia really merit its own Linkage category? It just struck me as odd.
It’s a relic from an earlier time…
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Bagua Tue, May 4, 2010 4:26:33pm |
re: #44 Gus 802
True. I will prove difficult to find the exact cause when it may be lying 5,000 feet below sea level.
Right, the part is at the well head, on the sea floor. But what I’m saying is even if they do recover it once a relief well is drilled and this one shut in, the mechanism inside will have been chewed up by the stress it is under.
Thus all we will be able to say is that the valve failed to close, not why it failed to close.
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Four More Tears Tue, May 4, 2010 4:26:59pm |
re: #58 wrenchwench
It’s a relic from an earlier time…
Ah. Now it makes sense. Nothing against Swedes, Fins, or Norweigeners. Are Danes Scandinavian? Them too, then.
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cliffster Tue, May 4, 2010 4:27:15pm |
re: #43 darthstar
OT: got a raise today. Not bad, considering I’ve only been here 7 months.
Can I borrow $100?
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nimed Tue, May 4, 2010 4:28:02pm |
re: #30 Gus 802
Perino: “[W]as this deliberate?” On the May 3 broadcast of Fox News’ Fox & Friends, Fox News contributor Dana Perino said of the spill: “I’m not trying to introduce a conspiracy theory, but was this deliberate? You have to wonder…if there was sabotage involved.”
One wonders what could possibly make a former WH Press Secretary peddle this paranoid crap. Perino just lost the remaining amount of respect I had for her.
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tradewind Tue, May 4, 2010 4:28:09pm |
Latest interviewee for SCOTUSstakes.
en.wikipedia.org
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Achilles Tang Tue, May 4, 2010 4:29:34pm |
I must, I must, I must, remember to check if thread is dead before coming back to where I left it hours before, and being the last post, again.
Anyway, I wanted to ask this serious question; so I ask again:
Talking of citizens rights; can any legal eagles advise what is the situation for someone found to have been lying when taking the citizenship oath, or before?
In other words, since he (terrorist whatshisname) was recently granted citizenship, and if it is found that he was previously conspiring against the USA, could his citizenship not be revoked, then try him in a military court?
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Gus Tue, May 4, 2010 4:29:34pm |
re: #62 nimed
One wonders what could possibly make a former WH Press Secretary peddle this paranoid crap. Perino just lost the remaining amount of respect I had for her.
It’s too bad you know. Perino was a pretty good press secretary. I know people will disagree with the policies and such of the Bush administration but she was good at that job.
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Four More Tears Tue, May 4, 2010 4:30:21pm |
re: #62 nimed
One wonders what could possibly make a former WH Press Secretary peddle this paranoid crap. Perino just lost the remaining amount of respect I had for her.
I didn’t have any left after this:
Perino: “We did not have a terrorist attack on our country during President Bush’s term
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tradewind Tue, May 4, 2010 4:30:30pm |
re: #62 nimed
She just wondered. She didn’t assert, unlike the snap theories we’ve been offered by some administration officials in other situations.
No definitive cause has been established, so what’s your problem?
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keloyd Tue, May 4, 2010 4:30:50pm |
I hope Fox News doesn’t dig up this. Turns out Nature herself dumps 2 Exxon Valdezes of oil into the gulf from natural seeps, spread all out.
The spin on this perfectly noncontroversial bit of geology might be fun to watch.
I vaguely remember hearing stories of Indians picking up tar balls from the beach and using it to seal their pots in pre-Columbian times in Texas.
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darthstar Tue, May 4, 2010 4:31:06pm |
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Four More Tears Tue, May 4, 2010 4:32:06pm |
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Decatur Deb Tue, May 4, 2010 4:32:40pm |
re: #65 Gus 802
It’s too bad you know. Perino was a pretty good press secretary. I know people will disagree with the policies and such of the Bush administration but she was good at that job.
“That job” not involving intelligence, creativity, honesty or regard for the public good.
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brookly red Tue, May 4, 2010 4:33:07pm |
re: #68 keloyd
I hope Fox News doesn’t dig up this. Turns out Nature herself dumps 2 Exxon Valdezes of oil into the gulf from natural seeps, spread all out.
The spin on this perfectly noncontroversial bit of geology might be fun to watch.
I vaguely remember hearing stories of Indians picking up tar balls from the beach and using it to seal their pots in pre-Columbian times in Texas.
I guess it is just a case of size mattering…
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Gus Tue, May 4, 2010 4:34:05pm |
re: #70 tradewind
Like it or not, it’s a fact.
Deal.
Really? Not blaming then President Bush here since I don’t play that game but what happened on September 11, 2001?
The situation has changed on the ground as we’ve advanced military operations in Afghanistan and in Pakistan.
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tradewind Tue, May 4, 2010 4:34:41pm |
re: #71 JasonA
I find it more disturbing that you somehow appear less than happy about the fact that she reported.
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Four More Tears Tue, May 4, 2010 4:35:17pm |
re: #75 tradewind
I find it more disturbing that you somehow appear less than happy about the fact that she reported.
Could you translate that for me?
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Gus Tue, May 4, 2010 4:35:28pm |
re: #72 Decatur Deb
“That job” not involving intelligence, creativity, honesty or regard for the public good.
OK, perhaps I stand corrected and maybe I wasn’t paying enough attention.
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keloyd Tue, May 4, 2010 4:35:49pm |
re: #73 brookly red
If there’s one thing I know from working from the Corps of Engineers, for 2 summers, 20 years ago, it’s dilution is the solution to pollution.
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Jadespring Tue, May 4, 2010 4:36:11pm |
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tradewind Tue, May 4, 2010 4:36:21pm |
re: #74 Gus 802
Oh, sorry. ’ After 9-11 ’ there were no successful attacks on American soil for eight (8) years during the Bush administrations.
(Even though that’s a given for most references ).
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brookly red Tue, May 4, 2010 4:37:00pm |
re: #78 keloyd
If there’s one thing I know from working from the Corps of Engineers, for 2 summers, 20 years ago, it’s dilution is the solution to pollution.
skippy!
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Decatur Deb Tue, May 4, 2010 4:37:06pm |
re: #77 Gus 802
OK, perhaps I stand corrected and maybe I wasn’t paying enough attention.
Nah. She was good at it. The worst of them are.
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researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 4:37:31pm |
Michael Brown (nutjob ordinaire) appears on FOX News once and the cable news outlet is excoriated by Robert Gibbs (and beating up on Wendall Golar is about as low class as you can get. He’s got a decades long track record that is more than legit).
Pat Buchanan is a regular on MSNBC and Gibbs and others won’t say boo. Buchanan is a bigot and worse.
Robert Gibbs is in no position to moralize.
Down ding away.
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brookly red Tue, May 4, 2010 4:37:42pm |
re: #81 nimed
I wonder if you ever raped little children. I’m pretty confident you didn’t, but let’s not rule anything out.
that is just wrong in so many ways…
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tradewind Tue, May 4, 2010 4:37:45pm |
re: #81 nimed
And that’s so on point.
I suppose she could have wondered about that as well, but it just wasn’t.. you know….. relative.
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cliffster Tue, May 4, 2010 4:38:14pm |
re: #81 nimed
I wonder if you ever raped little children. I’m pretty confident you didn’t, but let’s not rule anything out.
dude
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Gus Tue, May 4, 2010 4:39:23pm |
re: #80 tradewind
Oh, sorry. ’ After 9-11 ’ there were no successful attacks on American soil for eight (8) years during the Bush administrations.
(Even though that’s a given for most references ).
This is a worthless mental exercise. And that’s what it is, a mental exercise. The fact is that if Bush remained president it could have been possible that there would have been similar attacks on US soil. These events take place randomly for the most part. This is tantamount to saying “well, there hasn’t been any Virginia Tech massacres under Obama’s watch.”
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 4:40:55pm |
re: #67 tradewind
She just wondered. She didn’t assert, unlike the snap theories we’ve been offered by some administration officials in other situations.
No definitive cause has been established, so what’s your problem?
Lol at troll
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tradewind Tue, May 4, 2010 4:41:02pm |
re: #85 researchok
Really, he should have saved some vitriol for MSNBC’s Contessa Brewer, who appeared frustrated that the perp was not some kind of white supremacist religious nut job.
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bratwurst Tue, May 4, 2010 4:41:16pm |
re: #80 tradewind
Oh, sorry. ’ After 9-11 ’ there were no successful attacks on American soil for eight (8) years during the Bush administrations.
(Even though that’s a given for most references ).
So after the biggest one ever, there were none (0). Got it. Seems like Perino and Giuliani are on tape leaving off that first part.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 4:41:26pm |
re: #69 darthstar
This is so wrong I don’t have words for it.
Shot seven times… The asshole cop could have at least gotten a rifle rathre than brutally kill it incompetently with a pistol. Or here is a news flash… They could have had animal control or the zoo or even people from one of the nearby universities tranq the deer and set it free elsewhere.
Fucking stupid.
I am so tired of fucking stupid.
I am so very very tired of fucking stupid and has guns.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Tue, May 4, 2010 4:42:11pm |
re: #4 windsagio
Cool!
And I say that with the conviction of someone who lived through the ’60s and ’70s.
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engineer cat Tue, May 4, 2010 4:42:18pm |
and just where is little miss governor “drill, baby, drill” when her signature issue becomes a national tragedy? some leadership!
i invite her to man up and help out!
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 4:42:43pm |
re: #70 tradewind
Like it or not, it’s a fact.
Deal.
ummm who was president during 9-11? He seemed to talk about that quite a lot. Please tell me you just forgot the sarc tag.
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Four More Tears Tue, May 4, 2010 4:42:44pm |
re: #92 tradewind
Really, he should have saved some vitriol for MSNBC’s Contessa Brewer, who appeared frustrated that the perp was not some kind of white supremacist religious nut job.
Have you actually watched the video?
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Jadespring Tue, May 4, 2010 4:43:08pm |
re: #80 tradewind
Oh, sorry. ’ After 9-11 ’ there were no successful attacks on American soil for eight (8) years during the Bush administrations.
(Even though that’s a given for most references ).
You still would be wrong but I doubt that really matters to you.
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brookly red Tue, May 4, 2010 4:43:25pm |
OK I am not an Obama fan, having said that I just can’t hang with the politicizing of terror or the lack there of. We can do more, we can always do more…
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Stanley Sea Tue, May 4, 2010 4:44:02pm |
re: #100 JasonA
Have you actually watched the video?
Obviously, no. Just read the right wing headline and reported back to us.
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keloyd Tue, May 4, 2010 4:44:28pm |
The Atlantic Monthly pointed out there haven’t been any more 9/11’s because
1. Arab Americans are majority Christian(!)
2. Black Muslims get no aid and comfort from other Black Americans for this kind of behavior.
3. Organized crime that has endless expertise and infrastructure for smuggling stuff into the US wants no part of smuggling in terrorist stuff instead of drugs. It’s bad for business.
4. Immigrants are on a pretty tight leash.
Overwhelmingly, the terrorist actions we will see in coming years will be disturbed, unstable loners, either like this Muslim or the white guy who flew into the IRS building in Texas. Home-grown terrorism just can’t get traction.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 4:44:32pm |
re: #85 researchok
Michael Brown (nutjob ordinaire) appears on FOX News once and the cable news outlet is excoriated by Robert Gibbs (and beating up on Wendall Golar is about as low class as you can get. He’s got a decades long track record that is more than legit).
Pat Buchanan is a regular on MSNBC and Gibbs and others won’t say boo. Buchanan is a bigot and worse.
Robert Gibbs is in no position to moralize.
Down ding away.
I’m watching Michael Brown on Hardball at this moment just getting torn a spare asshole by Chris Matthews. it’s hilarious, he looks like a drunk realtor.
Why is the GOP allowing pathetic people like Michael Brown to destroy their brand? Having this guy opining on a disaster is like asking an arsonist what he thinks of the fire department…
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nimed Tue, May 4, 2010 4:44:35pm |
re: #87 tradewind
And that’s so on point.
I suppose she could have wondered about that as well, but it just wasn’t.. you know… relative.
It’s pretty surprising to see that there are still people who look at the “she just wandered” type of argument as valid. Like the “I’m just asking questions”, it’s been done to death.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 4:45:36pm |
re: #95 windsagio
Hey its a means of asserting control!
I guess if you sling enough of your own feces at people, it gets their attention!
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Four More Tears Tue, May 4, 2010 4:46:06pm |
re: #105 WindUpBird
I’m watching Michael Brown on Hardball at this moment just getting torn a spare asshole by Chris Matthews. it’s hilarious, he looks like a drunk realtor.
Why is the GOP allowing pathetic people like Michael Brown to destroy their brand? Having this guy opining on a disaster is like asking an arsonist what he thinks of the fire department…
To be fair, I doubt they have a say in what shows he goes on and what he says.
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Stanley Sea Tue, May 4, 2010 4:46:36pm |
re: #107 WindUpBird
I guess if you sling enough of your own feces at people, it gets their attention!
The tread always follows. No matter how smart the conver was before it, a wingerzinger derails.
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kingkenrod Tue, May 4, 2010 4:47:00pm |
re: #67 tradewind
She just wondered. She didn’t assert, unlike the snap theories we’ve been offered by some administration officials in other situations.
No definitive cause has been established, so what’s your problem?
The administration had better be taking the possibility of targeted attack seriously. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are doing thorough background checks every person who had been on that rig recently. I doubt if they find anything, but they would be derelict in their responsibility to not investigate.
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darthstar Tue, May 4, 2010 4:47:43pm |
re: #100 JasonA
Have you actually watched the video?
Obviously, she hasn’t. Contessa Brewer said nothing about wishing it was a teabagger who set the car bomb…but you know what some people say about wingnuts by tradewind…I won’t repeat it here because, well, I don’t want to spread rumors, but the question on feces eating is a fair one, should someone decide to ask it.
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 4:47:54pm |
re: #110 kingkenrod
You know, I think people actually want it to be a terrorist attack, and I find that chilling.
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Varek Raith Tue, May 4, 2010 4:48:45pm |
re: #112 windsagio
You know, I think people actually want it to be a terrorist attack, and I find that chilling.
Indeed.
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 4:48:48pm |
re: #109 Stanley Sea
I’m totally gonna get myself in trouble with this, but its generally the usual suspects too.
They’re like thread cyanide.
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tradewind Tue, May 4, 2010 4:49:19pm |
re: #111 darthstar
No really, it’s a fairly sick one.
Although little boys do love their poop jokes.
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Decatur Deb Tue, May 4, 2010 4:50:27pm |
re: #110 kingkenrod
The administration had better be taking the possibility of targeted attack seriously. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are doing thorough background checks every person who had been on that rig recently. I doubt if they find anything, but they would be derelict in their responsibility to not investigate.
They’ll do at least as good a job as the NTSB or FAA. If there was a pet cat on board, they’ll know its name.
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Stanley Sea Tue, May 4, 2010 4:50:39pm |
re: #114 windsagio
I’m totally gonna get myself in trouble with this, but its generally the usual suspects too.
They’re like thread cyanide.
No trouble, it’s so fricking obvious.
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darthstar Tue, May 4, 2010 4:50:47pm |
re: #115 tradewind
No really, it’s a fairly sick one.
Although little boys do love their poop jokes.
Hey, I’m not judging you…you have the right to do whatever it is you enjoy.
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brookly red Tue, May 4, 2010 4:50:55pm |
re: #112 windsagio
You know, I think people actually want it to be a terrorist attack, and I find that chilling.
Yes lots of people DO want a terrorist attack, that is the freakin problem. Now how exactly do we keep them from doing that is the matter of discussion.
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 4:51:08pm |
re: #117 Stanley Sea
Somebody says “Yeah like you guys” in 5-4-3-2…
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 4:51:36pm |
re: #106 nimed
It’s pretty surprising to see that there are still people who look at the “she just wandered” type of argument as valid. Like the “I’m just asking questions”, it’s been done to death.
Is it perhaps the case that when right wingers deny AGW they are secretly hoping to kill brown, black, Asian and poor people - who will be hit the hardest first?
Isn’t it true that most right wing conservatives are so stupid as the result of inbreeding and fetal alcohol syndrome?
Is it possible, as some people say, that the right wing is infested with monsters who were sucked into this nation through a wormhole that opened in the 12th century at a witch burning?
Can we conclude that most televangelists like anal sex with boys, as evidences by the fact that the people who scream the loudest homophobia are usually in the closet?
Is it true that the average teabagger is so angry because being an overweight out of shape white guy, he hasn’t had an active sex life in decades and is merely overcompensating for his lack of virility?
I’m just asking questions.
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reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 4:51:53pm |
re: #39 Bagua
Actually it may prove impossible to determine the exact failure point, even if the BOP is brought to the surface, all the pressure flowing through it for so long will have caused damage.
Um, it’s possible the blow-out itself damaged it, which is why it cannot now be closed.
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darthstar Tue, May 4, 2010 4:52:25pm |
re: #120 windsagio
Somebody says “Yeah like you guys” in 5-4-3-2…
Or, as Rita Moreno would say, HEY YOU GUYS!!!
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Aceofwhat? Tue, May 4, 2010 4:52:59pm |
re: #107 WindUpBird
I guess if you sling enough of your own feces at people, it gets their attention!
wait…would that work??
/must i/
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 4:53:01pm |
re: #125 darthstar
I’m surprised you’re old enough to remember that.
For some reason I thought you were a damn kid >>
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brookly red Tue, May 4, 2010 4:53:07pm |
re: #121 windsagio
Brook you know what I mean :p
yes, you were talking oil rig I was talking in general, I didn’t get that at first.
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 4:53:55pm |
re: #128 brookly red
Specifically there are people on the right, and even in this thread that seem to be salivating that the oil rig explosion was a ‘terrorist attack on Obamas’ watch.
That’s messed up.
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darthstar Tue, May 4, 2010 4:54:15pm |
re: #127 windsagio
I’m surprised you’re old enough to remember that.
For some reason I thought you were a damn kid >>
I loved the Electric Company. And I am a damn kid…in my mid forties.
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engineer cat Tue, May 4, 2010 4:54:19pm |
re: #119 brookly red
Yes lots of people DO want a terrorist attack, that is the freakin problem. Now how exactly do we keep them from doing that is the matter of discussion.
we don’t have actual events in the current universe, only political footballs
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Varek Raith Tue, May 4, 2010 4:54:46pm |
re: #127 windsagio
I’m surprised you’re old enough to remember that.
For some reason I thought you were a damn kid >>
We were all kids.
:)
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 4:54:46pm |
re: #130 darthstar
Ack, you’re older than me!
Hah that means you might have earned your deadhead logo honestly :D
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reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 4:54:47pm |
re: #129 windsagio
Specifically there are people on the right, and even in this thread that seem to be salivating that the oil rig explosion was a ‘terrorist attack on Obamas’ watch.
That’s messed up.
eh? In this thread?
I just got here.
Guess I better read through.
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Four More Tears Tue, May 4, 2010 4:54:53pm |
re: #127 windsagio
I’m surprised you’re old enough to remember that.
For some reason I thought you were a damn kid >>
Huh. I always think of The Goonies when I see that phrase.
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researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 4:55:10pm |
re: #105 WindUpBird
I’m watching Michael Brown on Hardball at this moment just getting torn a spare asshole by Chris Matthews. it’s hilarious, he looks like a drunk realtor.
Why is the GOP allowing pathetic people like Michael Brown to destroy their brand? Having this guy opining on a disaster is like asking an arsonist what he thinks of the fire department…
I agree. Brown is an idiot.
That said, why hasn’t Gibbs excoriated MSNBC for giving a platform to a bigot and racist? And why go after Golar? He’s as legit as it gets.
Here’s the problem: Opinion is not the same as news. Pretending they are the same denigrates the political exchanges and serves no no useful purpose. Opinion is something you agree with or disagree with. News is not about opinion- and that’s why news coverage is remarkably similar among the better news outlets. What is reported as factual on one station is usually pretty much the same on a different out. People choose different news outlets because of style.
Chris Matthews, Rachel Maddow, et al, offer up opinion, not news. Same applies to O’Reilly, Hannity and Beck. They are not offering up news.
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 4:55:25pm |
re: #135 JasonA
‘damn kids’?
Makes me think Scooby Doo, even tho’ they of course never actually said that :D
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 4:55:46pm |
re: #134 reine.de.tout
Well remember, its subject to interpretation :P Your mileage may vary ;0
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nimed Tue, May 4, 2010 4:57:35pm |
re: #122 LudwigVanQuixote
Is it perhaps the case that when right wingers deny AGW they are secretly hoping to kill brown, black, Asian and poor people - who will be hit the hardest first?
Isn’t it true that most right wing conservatives are so stupid as the result of inbreeding and fetal alcohol syndrome?
Is it possible, as some people say, that the right wing is infested with monsters who were sucked into this nation through a wormhole that opened in the 12th century at a witch burning?
Can we conclude that most televangelists like anal sex with boys, as evidences by the fact that the people who scream the loudest homophobia are usually in the closet?
Is it true that the average teabagger is so angry because being an overweight out of shape white guy, he hasn’t had an active sex life in decades and is merely overcompensating for his lack of virility?
I’m just asking questions.
Very plausible explanations - let’s be careful not to jump to conclusions, though.
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darthstar Tue, May 4, 2010 4:58:37pm |
Okay…time to head out, pick up some greenies for the boys, and get on home.
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brookly red Tue, May 4, 2010 4:58:42pm |
re: #129 windsagio
Specifically there are people on the right, and even in this thread that seem to be salivating that the oil rig explosion was a ‘terrorist attack on Obamas’ watch.
That’s messed up.
Again I am not an Obama fan, but politically he has a lot to loose if we are attacked so I am guessing he will do all in his power to prevent that from happening. Unfortunately I think that some of the policies regarding prosecution may not be all that they could be.
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Varek Raith Tue, May 4, 2010 4:58:54pm |
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Jack Burton Tue, May 4, 2010 4:59:42pm |
re: #142 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Starcraft II comes out the end of July
As a beta tester for it I will say this… It took them 13 years to make the exact same game with better graphics.
Sadly, that wont stop me from buying it.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 5:00:18pm |
re: #124 Varek Raith
Ouch, man, ouch!
Just asking some more questions:
Is it possible that Beck has masturbation fantasies about giving Rush a blumpkin, in the smoldering ruins of post apocalyptic socialist America?
Is it possible that Beck and Rush are so popular with rightwingers because the average wingnut has an IQ below 90? Or is it true, as some people say, and as is evidenced by their signs and coherent arguments, that the average education level of the right wing is at the third grade level?
Is Ann Coulter a man?
How do we allow anyone who would vote for a fool like Palin, the right to vote in the first place?
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Kragar Tue, May 4, 2010 5:00:33pm |
re: #146 ArchangelMichael
As a beta tester for it I will say this… It took them 13 years to make the exact same game with better graphics.
Sadly, that wont stop me from buying it.
LOL!
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:00:51pm |
re: #144 brookly red
That’s a reasonable position. I don’t agree, but when do we ever agree anyways :P
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:01:40pm |
re: #146 ArchangelMichael
I’m a heretic, but I’m not gonna buy it.
If it had been more like WC3 things might have been different. Starcraft 2 comes complete with ‘expected’ ui bugs, and that’s lame.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, May 4, 2010 5:01:42pm |
re: #130 darthstar
I loved the Electric Company. And I am a damn kid…in my mid forties.
Hey… fireman… give me your opinion… so, they are saying the fire is 50 percent contained… yet 1) From here, 3/4 mile from the top of the mountain where it was, I see nor smell ANY smoke. 2) I just took a car ride around my circle… at the top, there are about 3 fire/rescue trucks. 2-3 sheriffs cars, some ATV’s and misc vehicles… no smoke on the top, no smoke coming from over the top off the back side. 3) I ask sheriff deputy what’s up, he says he just came on shift, hasn’t been briefed yet (? on shift, doesn’t know what’s going on). 4) TV station says county turned off all electric up here… we’ve had electric all afternoon… 5) TV says 340 homes evacuated… most people are home… 6) TV and other sources saying there are staging areas for animals, horses etc. down hill in the country… hell, they were 5 horses grazing with in 100 feet of where the brush was burning this morning…
It’s almost like there is nothing going on anymore yet someone is trying to milk this for all it’s worth… local fire district lost a vote last week to purchase 2 new fire trucks… I wonder how much politics are going on today… I’m not saying there wasn’t a possible dangerous situation here, but I see more politics and posturing going on since the REAL problem was contained.
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nimed Tue, May 4, 2010 5:01:46pm |
Some people didn’t like the “tradewind may be a pedophile, who knows” comment.
Weird. I thought everybody liked this sort of comment.
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Four More Tears Tue, May 4, 2010 5:02:06pm |
I posted this in linkage, but it deserves a shout-out here, too:
“I don’t know what kind of bullshit passes for jurisprudence down in the 4th Circuit these days,” Thomas wrote. “But those pricks can take their arguments about speech that ‘appeals only to prurient interests’ and go suck a dog’s asshole.”
Added Thomas, “Just suck it. Get in there and seriously suck it.”
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 5:02:30pm |
So do the anthrax letters not count as a terrorist attack, Tradewind?
Curious how you’ll wriggle your way out of that one
DEAL
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reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 5:03:01pm |
re: #147 LudwigVanQuixote
…
How do we allow anyone who would vote for a fool like Palin, the right to vote in the first place?
Hey, now.
But truly - the oil rig explosion was NOT a terrorist attack.
And anyone with a voice on TV who speculates that it could have been is just being silly and stupid and is not doing the public any favors whatsoever.
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Jadespring Tue, May 4, 2010 5:03:30pm |
BBL maybe. Hubby just brought home pizza. Yay no cooking for me!
Going to couch it and watch the tube for a bit.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 5:04:01pm |
re: #156 reine.de.tout
Hey, now.
But truly - the oil rig explosion was NOT a terrorist attack.
And anyone with a voice on TV who speculates that it could have been is just being silly and stupid and is not doing the public any favors whatsoever.
But Reine, It really was satire, and I really was just asking questions ;)
And I love the irony of this post.
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Varek Raith Tue, May 4, 2010 5:04:10pm |
re: #158 Jadespring
BBL maybe. Hubby just brought home pizza. Yay no cooking for me!
Going to couch it and watch the tube for a bit.
SO HELP YOU IF I FIND PINEAPPLES ON MY PIZZA!
;)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 5:04:13pm |
re: #154 JasonA
HAHAHA the photo of Ginsburg
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brookly red Tue, May 4, 2010 5:04:29pm |
re: #152 Walter L. Newton
hell, they were 5 horses grazing with in 100 feet of where the brush was burning this morning…
so your neighbors are buying horses from NY now?
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cliffster Tue, May 4, 2010 5:04:36pm |
Nothing bad ever happened ever when Bush was president. Now that Obama is here everything is going to shit shit’s getting blown up shitty terrorist and their shitty attacks. Shit.
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reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 5:04:48pm |
re: #153 nimed
Some people didn’t like the “tradewind may be a pedophile, who knows” comment.
Weird. I thought everybody liked this sort of comment.
I got trashed on a previous thread for doing something similar; but I did it on purpose knowing I would take a lot of flak.
Deal with it.
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Varek Raith Tue, May 4, 2010 5:05:05pm |
re: #165 cliffster
Nothing bad ever happened ever when Bush was president. Now that Obama is here everything is going to shit shit’s getting blown up shitty terrorist and their shitty attacks. Shit.
Shit.
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Killgore Trout Tue, May 4, 2010 5:05:25pm |
re: #136 researchok
Chris Matthews, Rachel Maddow, et al, offer up opinion, not news. Same applies to O’Reilly, Hannity and Beck. They are not offering up news.
You’re missing the key difference; Fox News has an entire network promoting conspiracy theories. Sure MSNBC offers opinions on news stories but they are real stories that are actually happening in the real world. Fox is the only network dedicated to conspiracy theories. It’s nonsense.
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reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 5:05:29pm |
re: #160 LudwigVanQuixote
But Reine, It really was satire, and I really was just asking questions ;)
And I love the irony of this post.
eh?
What irony?
clue me in, I’m not getting it.
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Aceofwhat? Tue, May 4, 2010 5:05:50pm |
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Bagua Tue, May 4, 2010 5:05:57pm |
re: #123 reine.de.tout
Um, it’s possible the blow-out itself damaged it, which is why it cannot now be closed.
Yes, that is part of what I am saying. It may prove impossible to say if there was a failure of a part which preceded the blowout as the incident itself and the ongoing high pressure release is eroding the internal parts.
Here is a photo of a Cameron BOP, missing a few bits.
Not necessarily the model being used.
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nimed Tue, May 4, 2010 5:06:13pm |
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brookly red Tue, May 4, 2010 5:06:52pm |
re: #165 cliffster
Nothing bad ever happened ever when Bush was president. Now that Obama is here everything is going to shit shit’s getting blown up shitty terrorist and their shitty attacks. Shit.
/but yet he still blames Bush…
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Gus Tue, May 4, 2010 5:06:58pm |
re: #155 WindUpBird
So do the anthrax letters not count as a terrorist attack, Tradewind?
Curious how you’ll wriggle your way out of that one
DEAL
# 2001 September 18: November - 2001 anthrax attacks. Letters tainted with anthrax kill five across the United States, with politicians and media officials as the apparent targets. On July 31, 2008 Bruce E. Ivins a top biodefense researcher committed suicide.[31] On August 6, 2008 the FBI concluded that Ivins was solely responsible for the attacks and suggested that Ivins wanted to bolster support for a vaccine he helped create and that he targeted two lawmakers because they were Catholics who held pro choice views.[32]
# May 2002 Mailbox Pipe Bomber: Lucas John Helder rigged pipe bombs in private mailboxes to explode when the boxes were opened. He injured 6 people in Nebraska, Colorado, Texas, Illinois, and Iowa. His motivation was to garner media attention so that he could spread a message denouncing government control over daily lives and the illegality of marijuana as well as promoting astral projection.
# 2002 July 4: 2002 Los Angeles Airport shooting Hesham Mohamed Hadayet, a 41-year-old Egyptian national, kills two Israelis and wounds four others at the El Al ticket counter at Los Angeles International Airport. The FBI concluded this was terrorism, although they found no evidence linking Hadayet to any terrorist group.[33]
# October 2002 Beltway Sniper Attacks: During three weeks in October 2002 John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo killed 10 people and critically injured three others in Washington D.C, Baltimore, and Virginia. The pair were also suspected of earlier shootings in Maryland, Alabama, Arizona, Georgia, Louisiana and Washington state.[34] No motivation was given at the trial but evidence presented showed an affinity to the cause of the Islamic jihad.
# 2006 March 5: Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar injured 6 when he drove an SUV into a group of pedestrians at UNC-Chapel Hill to “avenge the deaths or murders of Muslims around the world”.[35]
# 2006 July 28: Seattle Jewish Federation shooting, Pakistani-American shoots six women at Jewish Center killing one.
# 2007 October 26: A pair of improvised explosive devices were thrown at the Mexican Consulate in New York City. The fake grenades were filled with black powder and detonated by fuses causing very minor damage. Police were investigating the connection between this and a similar attack against the British Consulate in New York in 2005.[36]
# 2008 February: In the first reported incident of animal-rights extremists physically assaulting the family members of animal researchers, six masked activists attempted to force their way into the home of a University of California, Santa Cruz, researcher and injured the researcher’s husband.[37][38]
# 2008 March 3: Four multimillion-dollar show homes place in Woodinville, Washington are torched. The Earth Liberation Front is suspected in the fires.[39]
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Gus Tue, May 4, 2010 5:07:11pm |
re: #174 Gus 802
# 2008 May 4 Multiple nail laden pipe bombs exploded at a Federal Courthouse in San Diego at 1:40 AM causing “considerable damage” to the entrance and lobby and sending shrapnel two blocks away. The F.B.I. is investigating links between this attack and an April 25 explosion at the FedEx building also in San Diego.[40][41]
# 2008 July 27 Jim D. Adkisson opened fire in the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church in Knoxville, Tennessee killing two and injuring seven before being tackled to the ground by congregation members. A note found in his SUV indicated this was intended as a suicide attack and said the church was apparently targeted because of its support of liberal social policies.[42]
# 2008 August 2, August 3 University of California-Santa Cruz molecular biologist David Feldheim’s home was firebombed. A car belonging to another researcher from that University was destroyed by a firebomb in what is presumed to be related. FBI is investigating incidents as domestic terrorism related to animal rights groups.[43][44]
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 5:07:18pm |
re: #169 reine.de.tout
eh?
What irony?
clue me in, I’m not getting it.
Well I really was using satire in my original post that was just asking questions, and those two things are the most frequent defenses that rightwing nuts use when they were not using satire at all.
Pointing out the satire, made a satire of the satire in an infinite recursive loop of irony.
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:07:19pm |
re: #170 Aceofwhat?
I can’t even find the damn post, so its hard to tell for sure, but presuming the reference is to concern-trolling, it seems appropriate.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 5:07:54pm |
re: #146 ArchangelMichael
As a beta tester for it I will say this… It took them 13 years to make the exact same game with better graphics.
Sadly, that wont stop me from buying it.
Blizzard is dead, long live ArenaNet
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 5:08:09pm |
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Varek Raith Tue, May 4, 2010 5:08:18pm |
re: #177 windsagio
I can’t even find the damn post, so its hard to tell for sure, but presuming the reference is to concern-trolling, it seems appropriate.
Joking about that sort of thing is where I draw a line.
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Kragar Tue, May 4, 2010 5:08:50pm |
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 5:08:50pm |
re: #153 nimed
Some people didn’t like the “tradewind may be a pedophile, who knows” comment.
Weird. I thought everybody liked this sort of comment.
those types of jokes are a no - go even if you are making a valid point.
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Gus Tue, May 4, 2010 5:09:14pm |
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reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 5:09:20pm |
re: #171 Bagua
Yes, that is part of what I am saying. It may prove impossible to say if there was a failure of a part which preceded the blowout as the incident itself and the ongoing high pressure release is eroding the internal parts.
Here is a photo of a Cameron BOP, missing a few bits.
Not necessarily the model being used.
I think they know what happened, by now, and are now at the point of trying to figure out who is responsible for what parts of it. I don’t think they need to examine the BOP to figure out how this incident occurred in the first place.
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Varek Raith Tue, May 4, 2010 5:09:38pm |
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:09:40pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 5:09:44pm |
re: #174 Gus 802
I wish I could forget things selectively like that, it’d come in really handy!
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 5:09:59pm |
re: #185 Gus 802
Thanks. Yeah, this argument has been made before. I think I posted that very same list almost a year ago. It’s simply not true that there were no terrorist attacks post 911 on US soil.
Of course that’s the case, but since when have you seen a political talking point from that crowd line up with reality?
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brookly red Tue, May 4, 2010 5:10:17pm |
re: #184 LudwigVanQuixote
those types of jokes are a no - go
even if you are making a valid point.
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Aceofwhat? Tue, May 4, 2010 5:10:23pm |
re: #177 windsagio
I can’t even find the damn post, so its hard to tell for sure, but presuming the reference is to concern-trolling, it seems appropriate.
i’m comfortable saying that some things are beyond the pale.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 5:10:27pm |
re: #182 windsagio
You won’t even play GW >>
it’s not my game, but I do appreciate how awesome they are and how great their production design is :D
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Varek Raith Tue, May 4, 2010 5:10:40pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 4, 2010 5:10:44pm |
re: #152 Walter L. Newton
It’s also very possible, that they are staying where they are, in case the wind turns, and the fire roars back towards you. They are there to defend your home. We have horrible wildfires here. Let the firemen do their job.
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reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 5:10:50pm |
re: #176 LudwigVanQuixote
Well I really was using satire in my original post that was just asking questions, and those two things are the most frequent defenses that rightwing nuts use when they were not using satire at all.
Pointing out the satire, made a satire of the satire in an infinite recursive loop of irony.
argh.
OK.
I got that it was satire originally.
The rest of it is beyond my ken.
:-)
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:11:33pm |
re: #187 Varek Raith
I loved the quarter-of-a-million dollars an HOUR they got for that paid flying mount.
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researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 5:12:07pm |
re: #168 Killgore Trout
You’re missing the key difference; Fox News has an entire network promoting conspiracy theories. Sure MSNBC offers opinions on news stories but they are real stories that are actually happening in the real world. Fox is the only network dedicated to conspiracy theories. It’s nonsense.
There is some truth to your remarks. That said, each outlet caters to it’s constituency, though. Both FOX and MSNBC pander to their audiences.
MSNBC opinion is no more credible than FOX opinion. Each audience highlights that.
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:12:55pm |
re: #193 WindUpBird
Very true!
Also to others, if you want an RTS, get C&C 4, or DOW2. both are way beyond anything Blizzard’s done since about 2002.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 5:13:04pm |
re: #194 nimed
*muah*
hahaha
If you just replaced “pedophile” with “member of the communist party” you would have had the desired effect, sprinkled with some red scare for added fun, without everyone becoming SUDDENLY OH SO CONCERNED on you :D
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Varek Raith Tue, May 4, 2010 5:13:43pm |
re: #201 WindUpBird
hahaha
If you just replaced “pedophile” with “member of the communist party” you would have had the desired effect, sprinkled with some red scare for added fun, without everyone becoming SUDDENLY OH SO CONCERNED on you :D
Lol, true.
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:13:46pm |
re: #201 WindUpBird
heh, this is one of the times where I feel like, in some ways, you and I really don’t belong here :D
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brookly red Tue, May 4, 2010 5:14:03pm |
re: #185 Gus 802
Thanks. Yeah, this argument has been made before. I think I posted that very same list almost a year ago. It’s simply not true that there were no terrorist attacks post 911 on US soil.
of course there were terrorist attacks, now how about we stop pretending, stop politicizing, stop PCing and deal with it in a meaningful way. Just a thought.
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reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 5:14:07pm |
re: #177 windsagio
I can’t even find the damn post, so its hard to tell for sure, but presuming the reference is to concern-trolling, it seems appropriate.
You can’t find the post, but think it was OK “in context”?
How do you know the context if you can’t find the post?
I’m so confused… .
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:16:11pm |
re: #206 reine.de.tout
Having had it pointed out to me, my informed guess was correct as to the context. Its pretty clear what he(?) meant, even without seeing it.
I should’nt waste my time trying to defend it tho’, the community has pretty much spoken ;)
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 5:16:16pm |
Some more questions:
Are anti-evolution people that way because fundamentalism causes brain damage or are brain damaged people more likely to be fundies?
With all of her winking and silly flirts, do you think Palin is callously trying to manipulate desperate men, or is she simply a pathetic aging cheerleader who is trying to remind herself of her “glory days”?
As a caveat, since her winking seems to work, does that add further credence to the suggestion that right wing men are simply aging and pathetic beta males who never get any action?
Is it that Beck is schizoid or simply bi-polar?
Is Rush truly evil, or does he have a very well hidden redeeming feature?
I’m just asking…
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 5:16:52pm |
re: #199 researchok
There is some truth to your remarks. That said, each outlet caters to it’s constituency, though. Both FOX and MSNBC pander to their audiences.
MSNBC opinion is no more credible than FOX opinion. Each audience highlights that.
Right, but that’s opinion.
Fox REPORTING is often false. Way more so than any of the other cable news outlets. Not the opinion, the reporting. There’s no equivalency.
They cater to theor own constitutencies, but the Fox constitutency is stupider, and crazier, and more ignorant, and more willing to believe paranoid racist Bircher gibberish than either MSNBC and CNN. And I say this as someone who finds MSNBC and CNN mostly shit.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, May 4, 2010 5:16:59pm |
re: #164 brookly red
hell, they were 5 horses grazing with in 100 feet of where the brush was burning this morning…
so your neighbors are buying horses from NY now?
What?
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Varek Raith Tue, May 4, 2010 5:16:59pm |
re: #207 windsagio
Having had it pointed out to me, my informed guess was correct as to the context. Its pretty clear what he(?) meant, even without seeing it.
I should’nt waste my time trying to defend it tho’, the community has pretty much spoken ;)
Oh, I get what he was doing, I just think one should leave kids out of it.
That’s all.
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Varek Raith Tue, May 4, 2010 5:17:43pm |
re: #211 Varek Raith
Oh, I get what he was doing, I just think one should leave kids out of it.
That’s all.
See, LVQ is good at it.
:)
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:17:43pm |
re: #208 LudwigVanQuixote
Your second example there barely even counts as concern-trolling ;)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 5:18:05pm |
re: #204 windsagio
heh, this is one of the times where I feel like, in some ways, you and I really don’t belong here :D
hahaha yes :D it’s like this place is a jazz club, and we’re used to the Satyricon
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Tue, May 4, 2010 5:18:20pm |
re: #34 tradewind
No matter… we know that the administration was ’ on it ’ from Day One.
Or something.
Katrina was tracked for days. It was known ahead of time it would likely hit NO and cause some nasty damage. The fire on the platform was unexpected, and the Coast Guard was on site quickly to help with the evacuation.
That Obama didn’t visit for 10 days is no more important than Bush not visiting NO for 5 days. Neither Obama, nor Bush, could do anything but watch others do their jobs. What is important is the lack of preparation and response before and after Katrina compared to the response after the oil rig fire. How effective were the people with the responsibility for human safety and environmental preservation, within the different demands of the two events?
What didn’t happen, but should have, in NO before, during and after Katrina. What didn’t happen, but should have, during and after the fire? (And no, visits and/or comments by the Presidents don’t count) Without that comparison, what is said by Limbaugh and other talking heads is just so much hot air.
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Kragar Tue, May 4, 2010 5:19:04pm |
The greatest answer to the question “Where have you been?” ever:
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nimed Tue, May 4, 2010 5:19:13pm |
re: #184 LudwigVanQuixote
those types of jokes are a no - go even if you are making a valid point.
Grumble. We shouldn’t discuss these things, it’s like explaining jokes, it spoils the fun. But, in my view, the more absurd the accusation, the less chance there is of someone even consider taking it seriously.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Tue, May 4, 2010 5:19:22pm |
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:19:30pm |
re: #214 WindUpBird
hahaha yes :D it’s like this place is a jazz club, and we’re used to the Satyricon
Bolded for utter, amazing, perfect awesomeness.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 5:19:59pm |
re: #217 nimed
Grumble. We shouldn’t discuss these things, it’s like explaining jokes, it spoils the fun. But, in my view, the more absurd the accusation, the less chance there is of someone even consider taking it seriously.
You may be from the same parts of the internet I am :D
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brookly red Tue, May 4, 2010 5:20:43pm |
re: #208 LudwigVanQuixote
Some more questions:
Are anti-evolution people that way because fundamentalism causes brain damage or are brain damaged people more likely to be fundies?
With all of her winking and silly flirts, do you think Palin is callously trying to manipulate desperate men, or is she simply a pathetic aging cheerleader who is trying to remind herself of her “glory days”?
As a caveat, since her winking seems to work, does that add further credence to the suggestion that right wing men are simply aging and pathetic beta males who never get any action?
Is it that Beck is schizoid or simply bi-polar?
Is Rush truly evil, or does he have a very well hidden redeeming feature?
I’m just asking…
You know it’s funny, (I am not trying to piss you off) but you strike me as Rush from the other side… now don’t get all pissed on me but have you ever considered a career in talk radio? It is not all that far fetched if you can speak like you type.
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Bagua Tue, May 4, 2010 5:20:51pm |
re: #186 reine.de.tout
I think they know what happened, by now, and are now at the point of trying to figure out who is responsible for what parts of it. I don’t think they need to examine the BOP to figure out how this incident occurred in the first place.
That’s interesting, you mean they understand what went wrong already?
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 5:20:55pm |
re: #217 nimed
Grumble. We shouldn’t discuss these things, it’s like explaining jokes, it spoils the fun. But, in my view, the more absurd the accusation, the less chance there is of someone even consider taking it seriously.
You mean like accusing Obama of not being an American?
I could come up with a very long list of counter examples. Big lies work.
But on a deeper level, somethings are so repugnant that they should only ever be spoken of seriously.
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:21:40pm |
re: #224 LudwigVanQuixote
You mean like accusing Obama of not being an American?
I could come up with a very long list of counter examples. Big lies work.
But on a deeper level, somethings are so repugnant that they should only ever be spoken of seriously.
note bold:
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 5:21:47pm |
re: #222 brookly red
You know it’s funny, (I am not trying to piss you off) but you strike me as Rush from the other side… now don’t get all pissed on me but have you ever considered a career in talk radio? It is not all that far fetched if you can speak like you type.
If I had that job, there would be one very giant difference. Well about ten, but the biggest one would be that I would do my best to be truthful.
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:22:04pm |
actually, nimed if you don’t mind me saying, this is probably a good ‘drop it’ anyways, they’re not gonna see your POV ;)
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Tue, May 4, 2010 5:23:28pm |
re: #45 RogueOne
Yeah, well, I got a ticket so fuck you and your raise.//
I’m not laughing at you, I’m laughing with you.
I got my first ticket in 20 years a few months ago. I came off the highway and didn’t pay attention to my speed closely enough. It felt like I was crawling, but according to the cop I wasn’t, and I had to take his word for it since he had me on radar.
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:23:40pm |
re: #222 brookly red
You know, right, that he’s purposely bringing up absurd examples to shed light on the dishonesty of the rush/others tactic of “Just asking questions”?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 5:24:05pm |
re: #219 windsagio
Bolded for utter, amazing, perfect awesomeness.
Speaking of which, sludge doom band Aldebaran is playing there soon! Mmmm…sludge doom…
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Bagua Tue, May 4, 2010 5:24:43pm |
Here is an article on how the 20,000 psi Cameron sub-sea BOP stack was designed. I presume this to be the unit which either failed, or was not activated.
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Aceofwhat? Tue, May 4, 2010 5:24:49pm |
re: #227 windsagio
actually, nimed if you don’t mind me saying, this is probably a good ‘drop it’ anyways, they’re not gonna see your POV ;)
says something about ‘us’, doesn’t it…
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brookly red Tue, May 4, 2010 5:25:10pm |
re: #226 LudwigVanQuixote
If I had that job, there would be one very giant difference. Well about ten, but the biggest one would be that I would do my best to be truthful.
Well again that is exactly what Rush says…
I think you would do well on the radio… I am not judging just looking at a way to make a buck.
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:25:52pm |
re: #232 Aceofwhat?
Everything says something about the people involved.
I just chalk it up to cultural differences, and make no value judgements :D
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 5:26:32pm |
re: #234 windsagio
Everything says something about the people involved.
I just chalk it up to cultural differences, and make no value judgements :D
How long do you think some of the Shoryuken regulars would last here?
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nimed Tue, May 4, 2010 5:26:49pm |
re: #227 windsagio
actually, nimed if you don’t mind me saying, this is probably a good ‘drop it’ anyways, they’re not gonna see your POV ;)
Their loss. Now they will NEVER hear my incest jokes.
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austin_blue Tue, May 4, 2010 5:26:58pm |
OT:
Ever read one of those stories where evolutionary theory, genetic regression analysis, and the awesome elegance of nature come together?
Here’s one:
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 5:27:06pm |
Just a few more questions:
What do you think that Dick Cheney gets out of sniffing the soiled underwear of Gitmo detainees?
Is it true that W. once swallowed yarn in an attempt to floss his insides?
Did Pat Buchanan get that way because as a child he was picked on by large Jewish boys?
Are all teabaggers racist swine or just most of them?
Is it only a matter of time before Inhofe strangles himself to death accidental while masturbating?
Really, is Coulter a man?
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Tue, May 4, 2010 5:27:19pm |
re: #67 tradewind
She just wondered. She didn’t assert, unlike the snap theories we’ve been offered by some administration officials in other situations.
No definitive cause has been established, so what’s your problem?
It’s a stupid thing to wonder about, especially out loud.
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Four More Tears Tue, May 4, 2010 5:27:25pm |
re: #122 LudwigVanQuixote
This post is a huge hit with your fans.
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:27:50pm |
re: #236 WindUpBird
like 2 days.
BGG is actually worse for this kinda blog tho’.
(and I notice you ddin’t evne bring up #(#$ SA or 4chan :p)
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 5:27:50pm |
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Walter L. Newton Tue, May 4, 2010 5:27:52pm |
Don’t forget… on bat guano island tonight, otherwise known as LOST…
“”The Candidate” - Jack must decide whether or not to trust Locke after he is asked to follow through on a difficult task”
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 5:28:01pm |
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brookly red Tue, May 4, 2010 5:28:30pm |
re: #239 LudwigVanQuixote
Just a few more questions:
What do you think that Dick Cheney gets out of sniffing the soiled underwear of Gitmo detainees?
Is it true that W. once swallowed yarn in an attempt to floss his insides?
Did Pat Buchanan get that way because as a child he was picked on by large Jewish boys?
Are all teabaggers racist swine or just most of them?
Is it only a matter of time before Inhofe strangles himself to death accidental while masturbating?
Really, is Coulter a man?
you are perfect for talk radio… why don’t you go for it?
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:28:49pm |
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:29:31pm |
re: #244 Walter L. Newton
/mean: ON
I still think Lost is a giant goddamn scam on the viewers.
/mean: OFF
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Tue, May 4, 2010 5:29:32pm |
re: #70 tradewind
Like it or not, it’s a fact.
Deal.
September 11, 2001 was during Bush’s term. Like it or not, it’s a fact. Deal.
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Aceofwhat? Tue, May 4, 2010 5:29:35pm |
re: #247 windsagio
All my music is so (*&$# fruity compared to yours,
Which is kinda ironic ;)
now that’s funny stuff right thar!
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nimed Tue, May 4, 2010 5:29:56pm |
re: #232 Aceofwhat?
says something about ‘us’, doesn’t it…
Now now, no need to get cranky. People didn’t like it, I got downdinged and got the message.
The system works!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 5:30:28pm |
re: #247 windsagio
All my music is so (*&$# fruity compared to yours,
Which is kinda ironic ;)
heehee
My favorites: GOSPEL OF THE HORNS and THERGOTHON
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:30:42pm |
re: #250 Aceofwhat?
WUB’s music:
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Aceofwhat? Tue, May 4, 2010 5:30:47pm |
re: #248 windsagio
/mean: ON
I still think Lost is a giant goddamn scam on the viewers.
/mean: OFF
i’d like my Deus with Ex tra Machina, please…
*ducks*
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 5:30:59pm |
re: #250 Aceofwhat?
now that’s funny stuff right thar!
it’s so true, I listen to technical death metal and he listens to Erasure :D
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:31:19pm |
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Aceofwhat? Tue, May 4, 2010 5:31:31pm |
re: #251 nimed
Now now, no need to get cranky. People didn’t like it, I got downdinged and got the message.
The system works!
s’ok. i’m over it and already poking Walter about Lost…i do my best not to hold grudges longer than 5 minutes.
we’re good-
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:31:39pm |
re: #255 WindUpBird
Not really anymore. I would if I had some >>
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reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 5:31:57pm |
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:32:30pm |
re: #252 WindUpBird
I admit they have the best band names, by far.
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Aceofwhat? Tue, May 4, 2010 5:32:30pm |
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:32:54pm |
re: #260 windsagio
Oops further: How many bands have there been that were called CONSUMED! ?
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cliffster Tue, May 4, 2010 5:33:15pm |
There’s a giant oil spill chugging oil into the Gulf and making landfall in places that are extremely ecologically sensitive. A disaster happening in the here and now and people are dedicating scads of resources at figuring out why someone they don’t like is at fault for it. wtf is that?
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reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 5:33:35pm |
re: #261 Aceofwhat?
Yep. It broke.
With a big bang!
And I should not joke about it; hubby worked with two of the guys who died.
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wrenchwench Tue, May 4, 2010 5:33:39pm |
re: #251 nimed
Now now, no need to get cranky. People didn’t like it, I got downdinged and the post was deleted, got the message.
The system works!
FTFY
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Walter L. Newton Tue, May 4, 2010 5:33:40pm |
re: #248 windsagio
/mean: ON
I still think Lost is a giant goddamn scam on the viewers.
/mean: OFF
You are so dead man… supper…
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 5:33:43pm |
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:34:07pm |
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brookly red Tue, May 4, 2010 5:34:25pm |
re: #263 cliffster
There’s a giant oil spill chugging oil into the Gulf and making landfall in places that are extremely ecologically sensitive. A disaster happening in the here and now and people are dedicating scads of resources at figuring out why someone they don’t like is at fault for it. wtf is that?
life in the litigation zone….
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wrenchwench Tue, May 4, 2010 5:34:43pm |
re: #263 cliffster
There’s a giant oil spill chugging oil into the Gulf and making landfall in places that are extremely ecologically sensitive. A disaster happening in the here and now and people are dedicating scads of resources at figuring out why someone they don’t like is at fault for it. wtf is that?
We won’t all fit out on the gulf mopping up oil….
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Aceofwhat? Tue, May 4, 2010 5:35:03pm |
re: #268 windsagio
I’m not afraid of you man!
Come get me… IF YOU DARE!
don’t, man…he’ll dazzle you with the silk robe…you’ll never see it coming…
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Stanley Sea Tue, May 4, 2010 5:35:50pm |
re: #263 cliffster
There’s a giant oil spill chugging oil into the Gulf and making landfall in places that are extremely ecologically sensitive. A disaster happening in the here and now and people are dedicating scads of resources at figuring out why someone they don’t like is at fault for it. wtf is that?
My tinfoil magic eight ball says that this all will come into play when it’s time to pay damages.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 5:35:51pm |
re: #262 windsagio
looks like at least 2 or 3, plus a band called “Flesh Consumed”, another band called “Consumed by Fury”
And let’s not forget the Pestilence record “Consuming Impulse”
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 5:36:16pm |
re: #272 Stanley Sea
My tinfoil magic eight ball says that this all will come into play when it’s time to pay damages.
REPLY HAZY
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nimed Tue, May 4, 2010 5:36:52pm |
re: #265 wrenchwench
FTFY
How does that function? Is it always manual, or do comments get automatically deleted after reaching a certain negative number?
By the way, what does GAZE mean?
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Tue, May 4, 2010 5:37:06pm |
re: #92 tradewind
Really, he should have saved some vitriol for MSNBC’s Contessa Brewer, who appeared frustrated that the perp was not some kind of white supremacist religious nut job.
So you and researchok’s contention is that it’s not OK to call someone down for their dishonesty unless you call down everyone for their dishonesty?
WTF?
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 4, 2010 5:37:33pm |
re: #244 Walter L. Newton
Don’t forget… on bat guano island tonight, otherwise known as LOST…
“”The Candidate” - Jack must decide whether or not to trust Locke after he is asked to follow through on a difficult task”
You still have power, and cable? I hope it holds up!
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reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 5:38:14pm |
re: #275 nimed
How does that function? Is it always manual, or do comments get automatically deleted after reaching a certain negative number?
By the way, what does GAZE mean?
GAZE means you’re being ignored.
Charles has to delete comments. Either he noticed and deleted; or someone reported it to him (see the ! next to the heart) and didn’t like it and deleted it.
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:38:31pm |
re: #275 nimed
Its manual by the ops.
Gaze is this POS thing where people aren’t content to ignore all your posts, but have to TELL YOU FIRST.
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reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 5:38:44pm |
re: #280 windsagio
Its manual by the ops.
Gaze is this POS thing where people aren’t content to ignore all your posts, but have to TELL YOU FIRST.
GAZE
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cliffster Tue, May 4, 2010 5:39:15pm |
re: #272 Stanley Sea
My tinfoil magic eight ball says that this all will come into play when it’s time to pay damages.
Yeah, that’s for sure, but sheesh it’s happening right now. Show some decency. Wait a month or so to start with that crap.
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researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 5:39:39pm |
re: #209 WindUpBird
Right, but that’s opinion.
Fox REPORTING is often false. Way more so than any of the other cable news outlets. Not the opinion, the reporting. There’s no equivalency.
They cater to theor own constitutencies, but the Fox constitutency is stupider, and crazier, and more ignorant, and more willing to believe paranoid racist Bircher gibberish than either MSNBC and CNN. And I say this as someone who finds MSNBC and CNN mostly shit.
FOX reporting is no more inaccurate than any other news outlet. No outlet is perfect.
Further, what evidence- other than your own opinion- do you have that FOX News viewers are ‘stupider, and crazier, and more ignorant’ than anyone else?
As for the ‘birther’ crap, I don’t recall Fox NEWS spending a whole lot of time on the issue.
You seem to be mixing up news reporting on FOX and their opinion segments- of which I am no fan.
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wrenchwench Tue, May 4, 2010 5:40:32pm |
re: #275 nimed
How does that function? Is it always manual, or do comments get automatically deleted after reaching a certain negative number?
By the way, what does GAZE mean?
GAZE is what you say to someone to tell them that you aren’t saying anything to them.
Charles said he’s working on a function so comments with a certain number of downdings will be obscured from view, but not deleted, but that hasn’t been implemented yet. Deletions are at his discretion.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Tue, May 4, 2010 5:40:47pm |
re: #107 WindUpBird
I guess if you sling enough of your own feces at people, it gets their attention!
We are chimps after all.
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nimed Tue, May 4, 2010 5:41:29pm |
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:42:03pm |
re: #287 nimed
You might be able to tell, I’m not a big fan.
Strikes me as massively passive-aggressive >>
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wrenchwench Tue, May 4, 2010 5:42:40pm |
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Tue, May 4, 2010 5:44:07pm |
re: #147 LudwigVanQuixote
Just asking some more questions:
Is it possible that Beck has masturbation fantasies about giving Rush a blumpkin, in the smoldering ruins of post apocalyptic socialist America?
Is it possible that Beck and Rush are so popular with rightwingers because the average wingnut has an IQ below 90? Or is it true, as some people say, and as is evidenced by their signs and coherent arguments, that the average education level of the right wing is at the third grade level?
Is Ann Coulter a man?
How do we allow anyone who would vote for a fool like Palin, the right to vote in the first place?
Rollin’, rollin’ raw hide.
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Gus Tue, May 4, 2010 5:44:30pm |
re: #291 wrenchwench
I guess we’re still working the kinks out of that one.
/
What happens if you gaze at yourself? Does that mean you vanish from the face of the Earth?
/
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austin_blue Tue, May 4, 2010 5:44:33pm |
re: #259 reine.de.tout
I think so.
Hey Reine!
My understanding is that they had cemented the production casing but just followed it with a pill, not a cement plug, and that well came in on them a day or so later. And they not done the perforation run. Correct?
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Aceofwhat? Tue, May 4, 2010 5:45:35pm |
re: #294 Gus 802
What happens if you gaze at yourself? Does that mean you vanish from the face of the Earth?
/
or you find yourself unusually pretty/
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wrenchwench Tue, May 4, 2010 5:46:08pm |
Later, lizards.
[That means I won’t be around to GAZE at anyone for a while.]
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 4, 2010 5:46:11pm |
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Gus Tue, May 4, 2010 5:46:20pm |
re: #296 Aceofwhat?
or you find yourself unusually pretty/
Like a “Silence of the Lambs” moment?
:O
/
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 4, 2010 5:46:41pm |
re: #294 Gus 802
What happens if you gaze at yourself? Does that mean you vanish from the face of the Earth?
/
You turn into Narcissus at the river…
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bratwurst Tue, May 4, 2010 5:47:03pm |
re: #256 windsagio
GREAT band that I am sorry to only have discovered as they were about to break up.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 5:47:49pm |
re: #241 JasonA
This post is a huge hit with your fans.
OK for my other dedicated fans:
Just some questions…
Did you guys have a thread blaming the protesters for the Kent State shootings (on the anniversary) because you all just love the idea of shooting unarmed hippies? Geeze, even I only was saying that armed teabaggers should only be fired on if they fired their weapons first (that’s what doing something stupid with those guns meant). NB they did.
Does Eliana or Buzzy realize that Torah admonishes us to stay away from rashas?
Is it true that Rodan became a sociopathic and started preaching genocide because he has yet to accept that he enjoys blowing homeless men behind dumpsters? Would he be happier if he could just admit that his deepest fantasy is having a HUGE Muslim man give it to him?
Did Snork become so ragingly anti-science after he failed algebra one three times and had to blow the principle in order to graduate, or did he get that way because doing math causes his hemorrhoids to bleed?
Does talking about guns and marines and how you are related to marines or own guns make anyone actually manly?
Was Bunk x released too early?
Is it true that Former Corpsman posts less because he has discovered that he can lick his own nipples? How does he get the hair out of his teeth? Does he shave now?
Wouldn’t goddess be a happier and better adjusted person if she thought that Jesus has no problem with women having orgasms?
Does Iron Fist realize that getting “his seed” on his guns when he fondles them too much might damage the actions?
Why has TFK not been hospitalized yet?
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Tue, May 4, 2010 5:48:00pm |
re: #180 LudwigVanQuixote
re: #174 Gus 802
re: #175 Gus 802
I love the way you bring the facts to shut foolishness down.
I agree. I guess Gus has magic fingers.
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:48:04pm |
re: #301 bratwurst
To make it worse, their last album is freakin’ amazing, but you can’t get it ANYWHERE anymore, not even on download.
They’re amazing tho’. Also responsible for the modern Scottish alternative scene :D
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freetoken Tue, May 4, 2010 5:48:22pm |
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Tue, May 4, 2010 5:50:15pm |
re: #204 windsagio
heh, this is one of the times where I feel like, in some ways, you and I really don’t belong here :D
You two both belong here, and deep down you know it.
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Renaissance_Man Tue, May 4, 2010 5:50:36pm |
re: #284 researchok
FOX reporting is no more inaccurate than any other news outlet. No outlet is perfect.
FOX reporting is frequently entirely inaccurate. They have moved on from the simplistic model of reporting events to making things up. It is cynical, manipulative, and a crass assault on the very underpinning of democracy.
Other news outlets make mistakes. In some stories there may even be a hint of bias to one side or another. No other news outlet creates stories out of whole cloth, specifically to create a fantasy world their viewers can live in.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 5:51:01pm |
re: #300 Floral Giraffe
You turn into Narcissus at the river…
Did you see the if Shakespearean characters had a snappy gay friend posts in the last thread?
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austin_blue Tue, May 4, 2010 5:51:25pm |
re: #294 Gus 802
What happens if you gaze at yourself? Does that mean you vanish from the face of the Earth?
/
Rene Descartes was sitting at a small cafe in Paris, smoking Galoises and reading Le Figaro when a waiter approached and said, “Monsieur, would you like another Skim Caramel Latte, three sugars?”
“I think not”, replied The Lion of French Philosophy, and disincorporated.
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:51:53pm |
re: #306 b_sharp
Not like either of us are intending to leave >>
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nimed Tue, May 4, 2010 5:52:23pm |
re: #309 austin_blue
Rene Descartes was sitting at a small cafe in Paris, smoking Galoises and reading Le Figaro when a waiter approached and said, “Monsieur, would you like another Skim Caramel Latte, three sugars?”
“I think not”, replied The Lion of French Philosophy, and disincorporated.
lol snort. That was silly.
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bratwurst Tue, May 4, 2010 5:53:59pm |
re: #304 windsagio
To make it worse, their last album is freakin’ amazing, but you can’t get it ANYWHERE anymore, not even on download.
They’re amazing tho’. Also responsible for the modern Scottish alternative scene :D
No? Why is it so scarce? It is indeed a great piece of work. Do you like Malcom Middleton too? My friend who is big into the Scottish scene was impressed when I told him that I went into a shop in Edinburgh that had a whole Middleton CD section!
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freetoken Tue, May 4, 2010 5:54:04pm |
For those of you looking for a new culinary treat, I can recommend the following from firsthand observation.
Follow-up some fresh loquats (picked ever so slightly early, to retain tartness) immediately with a (room temperature) piece of See’s Candies Chocolate Chip Truffle.
Highly recommended.
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austin_blue Tue, May 4, 2010 5:55:15pm |
re: #304 windsagio
To make it worse, their last album is freakin’ amazing, but you can’t get it ANYWHERE anymore, not even on download.
They’re amazing tho’. Also responsible for the modern Scottish alternative scene :D
Mmmm…Ahem.. Check out Silly Wizard.
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:56:59pm |
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Tue, May 4, 2010 5:57:11pm |
re: #311 nimed
lol snort. That was silly.
Yah, ‘specially since it was doubt not thought that made him real.
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researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 5:57:20pm |
re: #307 Renaissance_Man
FOX reporting is frequently entirely inaccurate. They have moved on from the simplistic model of reporting events to making things up. It is cynical, manipulative, and a crass assault on the very underpinning of democracy.
Other news outlets make mistakes. In some stories there may even be a hint of bias to one side or another. No other news outlet creates stories out of whole cloth, specifically to create a fantasy world their viewers can live in.
Your assertions are not evidence.
Wendal Golar, Brit Hume, Major Garret, Chris Wallace are FOX News reporters. They are held in high regard by their journalist colleagues. Please point to the ‘fantasy’ you refer to.
It isn’t as if FOX News cut a deal with Saddam Hussein or anyone else to not report or investigate too carefully. You know, like CNN.
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:57:26pm |
re: #312 bratwurst
And yeah, too scarce. No idea why they don’t release it for download, its just not around.
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brookly red Tue, May 4, 2010 5:57:54pm |
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 5:58:19pm |
re: #317 researchok
Your assertions are not evidence.
Wendal Golar, Brit Hume, Major Garret, Chris Wallace are FOX News reporters. They are held in high regard by their journalist colleagues. Please point to the ‘fantasy’ you refer to.
It isn’t as if FOX News cut a deal with Saddam Hussein or anyone else to not report or investigate too carefully. You know, like CNN.
NO Rupert Murdoch just cut deals with the Chinese to censor the news that reaches them to their standards.
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 5:59:11pm |
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Killgore Trout Tue, May 4, 2010 6:00:20pm |
The only thing that makes Mathew’s leg tingle more than Obama is loony wingnuts….
Matthews grills Brown on his comments about Obama and oil spill (video)
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researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 6:00:58pm |
re: #320 LudwigVanQuixote
NO Rupert Murdoch just cut deals with the Chinese to censor the news that reaches them to their standards.
And that differs from other news organizations? Look, I abhor FOX opinion people probably for the same reasons you do.
That said and to cite your Nazi allegory, we ought to be careful and not throw out FOX News because we don’t like their opinion.
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brookly red Tue, May 4, 2010 6:01:08pm |
re: #320 LudwigVanQuixote
NO Rupert Murdoch just cut deals with the Chinese to censor the news that reaches them to their standards.
It’s all lies Ludwig, your side, my side what does it matter?
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lostlakehiker Tue, May 4, 2010 6:02:45pm |
re: #208 LudwigVanQuixote
Some more questions:
Are anti-evolution people that way because fundamentalism causes brain damage or are brain damaged people more likely to be fundies?
With all of her winking and silly flirts, do you think Palin is callously trying to manipulate desperate men, or is she simply a pathetic aging cheerleader who is trying to remind herself of her “glory days”?
As a caveat, since her winking seems to work, does that add further credence to the suggestion that right wing men are simply aging and pathetic beta males who never get any action?
Is it that Beck is schizoid or simply bi-polar?
Is Rush truly evil, or does he have a very well hidden redeeming feature?
I’m just asking…
As to belief in evolution, there are any number of people who thought-control their own minds very closely. This is to some extent necessary; prolonged meditation on how much fun an affair might be is unwise if in your cooler-headed moments you know you have a good marriage and you don’t want to wreck it. But what if thinking about evolution falls into the category of heresy and sin? You just steer your mind away from it.
People who make a conscious decision to not think about this or that are in no different a state of ignorance from those who cannot think well enough to figure the question out, but those in the first category may perfectly well be sharp card players, debaters, lawyers, or what have you. They’re not brain damaged, unless you count a settled decision to avoid certain questions as a self-inflicted soft-kill to the brain’s ability to understand the selected questions. I don’t. Fundamentalists are deliberately blind on a few topics but they have the spark of reason in them, burning every bit as bright as in others, as soon as you get off that topic. And there are other topics on which liberals in general are deliberately blind and quite wrong. And for the same reason—- because to come to the correct conclusion would be heresy.
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Nimed Tue, May 4, 2010 6:02:49pm |
re: #316 b_sharp
Yah, ‘specially since it was doubt not thought that made him real.
Just to nitpick a little further, notice the error in deductive inference.
[(I think) => (I am)] => [~(I think)=>~(I am)]
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 6:02:51pm |
I will not link to American Thinker, but the venier, if there ever was one is off.
They wrote:
I finally realized that the Obama administration and its congressional collaborators almost resemble a foreign occupying force, a coterie of politically and culturally non-indigenous leaders whose rule contravenes local values rooted in our national tradition. It is as if the United States has been occupied by a foreign power, and this transcends policy objections.
Now just to remind some people of some real parallels in actual history:
This point can not be over stated.When I talk about Nazism, I am not talking about American Nazis goose-stepping down our streets. We are not there yet. I am talking about the trends and memes that spread through Germany in the Twenties and thirties that led to Nazism.
Let me point out a few of them.
They griped a lot about a mythic past that never existed as an example of a shining birthright that was stolen from the average German.
They used a message that a corrupt and weak government was loyal to foreigners before Germany.
They argued that the real Germans couldn’t make it in Germany anymore because of those traitors within. Those traitors were at first, immigrants, homosexuals, intellectuals, union members and of course Jews. In America, the message is not pointed at Jews yet.
They saw communists everywhere. They spread fear that communists secretly controlled the government and would take over and destroy all German liberties.
They flirted with notions of pay back and violence and the meme that the oppressed, natural master would take back his “rightful place.”
They pitched all manner of outrageous conspiracy theories. Those communists and leftists and intellectuals and elites were violent and out to get them.
It all played upon the racial fears of Germans who felt they had no control over their lives. But after working that fear into a lather, they represented a “voice of resistance.” The individual German could now be seduced into thinking he too would be a Hero of his people and save his culture.
It was backed by well funded industrialists who spread a disproportionate voice to the movement through the media.
This message is pure evil. There are too few people who understand the history well enough to see where this leads.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 6:03:39pm |
re: #325 lostlakehiker
As to belief in evolution, there are any number of people who thought-control their own minds very closely. This is to some extent necessary; prolonged meditation on how much fun an affair might be is unwise if in your cooler-headed moments you know you have a good marriage and you don’t want to wreck it. But what if thinking about evolution falls into the category of heresy and sin? You just steer your mind away from it.
People who make a conscious decision to not think about this or that are in no different a state of ignorance from those who cannot think well enough to figure the question out, but those in the first category may perfectly well be sharp card players, debaters, lawyers, or what have you. They’re not brain damaged, unless you count a settled decision to avoid certain questions as a self-inflicted soft-kill to the brain’s ability to understand the selected questions. I don’t. Fundamentalists are deliberately blind on a few topics but they have the spark of reason in them, burning every bit as bright as in others, as soon as you get off that topic. And there are other topics on which liberals in general are deliberately blind and quite wrong. And for the same reason—- because to come to the correct conclusion would be heresy.
I understand you took the time to write a thoughtful response, but I am honestly making satire.
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Racer X Tue, May 4, 2010 6:03:43pm |
Bugs.
Microscopic organisms.
Crawling around inside my head.
The good bugs are engaged in a battle. The battle is raging. Secretions are flowing. Temps are rising. Pain. Achy pain. Normally open passages are blocked with mucous. Mucous and bacteria have invaded my respiratory organs. Involuntary expulsions are now frequently occurring.
Ugghh!
*sniffle*
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researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 6:03:46pm |
re: #324 brookly red
It’s all lies Ludwig, your side, my side what does it matter?
I believe LVQ will cut FOX opinion at every opportunity, but I don’t think he’d cut FOX News out.
There is a difference.
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austin_blue Tue, May 4, 2010 6:05:20pm |
re: #312 bratwurst
No? Why is it so scarce? It is indeed a great piece of work. Do you like Malcom Middleton too? My friend who is big into the Scottish scene was impressed when I told him that I went into a shop in Edinburgh that had a whole Middleton CD section!
Coda Music? Great store.
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cliffster Tue, May 4, 2010 6:05:38pm |
re: #329 Racer X
My buddy jack can kill all those little bugs. So can my buddy jim. Shall I introduce you?
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Tue, May 4, 2010 6:05:53pm |
re: #317 researchok
Your assertions are not evidence.
Wendal Golar, Brit Hume, Major Garret, Chris Wallace are FOX News reporters. They are held in high regard by their journalist colleagues. Please point to the ‘fantasy’ you refer to.
It isn’t as if FOX News cut a deal with Saddam Hussein or anyone else to not report or investigate too carefully. You know, like CNN.
Hasn’t FOX news reported the ClimateGate hoax/setup as fact more than once?
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 6:05:54pm |
re: #330 researchok
I believe LVQ will cut FOX opinion at every opportunity, but I don’t think he’d cut FOX News out.
There is a difference.
Fox news, the shameless organization that reports the controversies started by Fox opinion as if they were facts? No, Fox is the new Gobbles.
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brookly red Tue, May 4, 2010 6:05:57pm |
re: #329 Racer X
Bugs.
Microscopic organisms.
Crawling around inside my head.
The good bugs are engaged in a battle. The battle is raging. Secretions are flowing. Temps are rising. Pain. Achy pain. Normally open passages are blocked with mucous. Mucous and bacteria have invaded my respiratory organs. Involuntary expulsions are now frequently occurring.
Ugghh!
*sniffle*
perhaps some tequila & a tad of Tabasco?
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Racer X Tue, May 4, 2010 6:06:49pm |
re: #332 cliffster
My buddy jack can kill all those little bugs. So can my buddy jim. Shall I introduce you?
There are both here with me.
The battle rages.
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researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 6:07:17pm |
re: #333 b_sharp
Hasn’t FOX news reported the ClimateGate hoax/setup as fact more than once?
No more than other news organizations. Lots of news organizations have gone down that road- including the Times of London.
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Decatur Deb Tue, May 4, 2010 6:07:19pm |
re: #262 windsagio
Oops further: How many bands have there been that were called CONSUMED! ?
Consomme
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austin_blue Tue, May 4, 2010 6:07:21pm |
re: #326 Nimed
Just to nitpick a little further, notice the error in deductive inference.
[(I think) => (I am)] => [~(I think)=>~(I am)]
Is it in the original latin as Cogito ergo sum?
Cato?
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brookly red Tue, May 4, 2010 6:07:38pm |
re: #336 cliffster
gmta mofo
if there is one thing that science has taught us it is that alcohol kills germs…
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Athens Runaway Tue, May 4, 2010 6:07:49pm |
re: #334 LudwigVanQuixote
Fox news, the shameless organization that reports the controversies started by Fox opinion as if they were facts? No, Fox is the new Gobbles.
FOX News is Jimmy’s pet turkey?
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researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 6:08:18pm |
re: #334 LudwigVanQuixote
Fox news, the shameless organization that reports the controversies started by Fox opinion as if they were facts? No, Fox is the new Gobbles.
And you would take them off the air?
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Killgore Trout Tue, May 4, 2010 6:08:33pm |
re: #323 researchok
That said and to cite your Nazi allegory, we ought to be careful and not throw out FOX News because we don’t like their opinion.
What you Fox News apologists keep ignoring is that Fox news is dedicated to spreading paranoid conspiracy theories and obviously bogus stories. Fox News is doing today what Alex Jones was doing during the Bush years. Glenn Beck spends an hour every night promoting Birch society conspiracies and revisionist history. Holocaust deniers and Truther are entitled to their own opinions but they should not be taken seriously. Fox news is doing enormous damage to conservatives and the Republican party and the problem will only go away when conservatives stop watching.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, May 4, 2010 6:08:35pm |
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Racer X Tue, May 4, 2010 6:08:36pm |
re: #341 brookly red
if there is one thing that science has taught us it is that alcohol kills germs…
Yay science!
*cough*
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pingjockey Tue, May 4, 2010 6:08:37pm |
re: #342 Athens Runaway
“As God as my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.”
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PhillyPretzel Tue, May 4, 2010 6:08:47pm |
re: #340 austin_blue
I think therefore I am. Yes that is the Latin.
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Gus Tue, May 4, 2010 6:09:18pm |
re: #322 Killgore Trout
The only thing that makes Mathew’s leg tingle more than Obama is loony wingnuts…
Matthews grills Brown on his comments about Obama and oil spill (video)
I hope people are paying attention to what this crackpot is saying. Notice at time mark 4:15 when he says about Obama, “I think he was disengaged like another president we know” and practically winks at the camera. He’s talking about President Bush. He’s attempting (poorly I might add) to re-invent himself for his past failures. When he’s criticizing Obama he’s also doing the same with Bush in the context of his infamous record.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 4, 2010 6:09:19pm |
re: #302 LudwigVanQuixote
Why do you give so much attention to the village of the banned?
Bunch of deranged stalkers, living in their Mother’s basements, or worse.
Life is to short, to waste time & energy so negatively.
Yes, I live in California.
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brookly red Tue, May 4, 2010 6:09:29pm |
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windsagio Tue, May 4, 2010 6:09:30pm |
For it would be extremely difficult for you to get away from here. Unless of course you have wings… Like a bat.re: #345 Walter L. Newton
That’s why you’re a manly man!
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Killgore Trout Tue, May 4, 2010 6:09:37pm |
re: #343 researchok
And you would take them off the air?
Ugh, what is with you people? Nobody’s advocating outlawing Fox.
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albusteve Tue, May 4, 2010 6:09:42pm |
re: #341 brookly red
if there is one thing that science has taught us it is that alcohol kills germs…
a miracle…it can change ugly into beauty too….amazing shit
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Tue, May 4, 2010 6:09:56pm |
re: #329 Racer X
Bugs.
Microscopic organisms.
Crawling around inside my head.
The good bugs are engaged in a battle. The battle is raging. Secretions are flowing. Temps are rising. Pain. Achy pain. Normally open passages are blocked with mucous. Mucous and bacteria have invaded my respiratory organs. Involuntary expulsions are now frequently occurring.
Ugghh!
*sniffle*
Drugs are your friends, drugs are your friends, drugs are your friends, drugs a…
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 6:10:13pm |
re: #343 researchok
And you would take them off the air?
I would see to it that news organizations are outed for their open lies and hope that the American people would get tired of being lied to.
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Racer X Tue, May 4, 2010 6:10:23pm |
re: #344 Killgore Trout
What you Fox News apologists keep ignoring is that Fox news is dedicated to spreading paranoid conspiracy theories and obviously bogus stories. Fox News is doing today what Alex Jones was doing during the Bush years. Glenn Beck spends an hour every night promoting Birch society conspiracies and revisionist history. Holocaust deniers and Truther are entitled to their own opinions but they should not be taken seriously. Fox news is doing enormous damage to conservatives and the Republican party and the problem will only go away when conservatives stop watching.
I used to be able to watch Cavuto; I can’t even watch that any more.
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Gus Tue, May 4, 2010 6:10:39pm |
re: #349 Gus 802
I hope people are paying attention to what this crackpot is saying. Notice at time mark 4:15 when he says about Obama, “I think he was disengaged like another president we know” and practically winks at the camera. He’s talking about President Bush. He’s attempting (poorly I might add) to re-invent himself for his past failures. When he’s criticizing Obama he’s also doing the same with Bush in the context of his infamous record.
It actually begin about 4:08.
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cliffster Tue, May 4, 2010 6:10:41pm |
re: #354 albusteve
a miracle…it can change ugly into beauty too…amazing shit
STEEEVE!!! (Cheers-style greeting)
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 4, 2010 6:10:53pm |
re: #329 Racer X
Bugs.
Microscopic organisms.
Crawling around inside my head.
The good bugs are engaged in a battle. The battle is raging. Secretions are flowing. Temps are rising. Pain. Achy pain. Normally open passages are blocked with mucous. Mucous and bacteria have invaded my respiratory organs. Involuntary expulsions are now frequently occurring.
Ugghh!
*sniffle*
THE WHITE CELLS WILL WIN!
Feel better, soon.
Hot tea? With honey?
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 6:11:19pm |
re: #350 Floral Giraffe
Why do you give so much attention to the village of the banned?
Bunch of deranged stalkers, living in their Mother’s basements, or worse.
Life is to short, to waste time & energy so negatively.
Yes, I live in California.
I don’t go over there regularly, however, when my friends inform me of how they are taking my comments here, it gives me perverse glee to remind them that they were all banned for good reasons.
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reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 6:11:20pm |
re: #291 wrenchwench
I guess we’re still working the kinks out of that one.
/
Yeah, but there are times when it comes in really handy.
Tho I can’t think of a time I’ve actually ever used it (but there are plenty of times I might should have used it).
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Tue, May 4, 2010 6:11:33pm |
re: #338 researchok
No more than other news organizations. Lots of news organizations have gone down that road- including the Times of London.
How many of those pattern themselves on FOX?
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brookly red Tue, May 4, 2010 6:11:43pm |
re: #329 Racer X
Bugs.
Microscopic organisms.
Crawling around inside my head.
The good bugs are engaged in a battle. The battle is raging. Secretions are flowing. Temps are rising. Pain. Achy pain. Normally open passages are blocked with mucous. Mucous and bacteria have invaded my respiratory organs. Involuntary expulsions are now frequently occurring.
Ugghh!
*sniffle*
well here, let’s take a walk out back I have something to show you…
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reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 6:11:45pm |
re: #295 austin_blue
Hey Reine!
My understanding is that they had cemented the production casing but just followed it with a pill, not a cement plug, and that well came in on them a day or so later. And they not done the perforation run. Correct?
You still here?
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albusteve Tue, May 4, 2010 6:11:56pm |
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researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 6:11:58pm |
re: #344 Killgore Trout
What you Fox News apologists keep ignoring is that Fox news is dedicated to spreading paranoid conspiracy theories and obviously bogus stories. Fox News is doing today what Alex Jones was doing during the Bush years. Glenn Beck spends an hour every night promoting Birch society conspiracies and revisionist history. Holocaust deniers and Truther are entitled to their own opinions but they should not be taken seriously. Fox news is doing enormous damage to conservatives and the Republican party and the problem will only go away when conservatives stop watching.
I don’t apologize for FOX News or anyone else. I don’t have to. Hume, Golar, Wallace, Garret and others are FOX News. Glenn Beck is FOX opinion, not news, as is Alex Jones, Napolitano, et al.
Should MSNBC news be lumped together with their opinion people?
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cliffster Tue, May 4, 2010 6:12:29pm |
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pingjockey Tue, May 4, 2010 6:12:39pm |
re: #356 LudwigVanQuixote
Obviously not. How many of those lying assholes have been on Capitol Hill for decades?
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Killgore Trout Tue, May 4, 2010 6:12:51pm |
re: #349 Gus 802
I hope people are paying attention to what this crackpot is saying. Notice at time mark 4:15 when he says about Obama, “I think he was disengaged like another president we know” and practically winks at the camera. He’s talking about President Bush. He’s attempting (poorly I might add) to re-invent himself for his past failures. When he’s criticizing Obama he’s also doing the same with Bush in the context of his infamous record.
Very true. It’s all part of the Paulification of the conservative mind. I always assumed history would turn out OK for the Bush presidency but I don’t think so anymore. The Tea Parties have turned on Bush. Beck Considers him part of the great progressive conspiracy.
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researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 6:12:59pm |
re: #364 b_sharp
How many of those pattern themselves on FOX?
How do Hume, Wallace, Garret and others differ from anyone else?
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Bear Tue, May 4, 2010 6:13:17pm |
re: #313 freetoken
Don’t know about the candy but as a small boy I would climb the loquat tree in the grandparents yard. The semi ripe ones were not too good as I recall but ripe ones were good eating. I think the cooked/canned ones werealso good. Have not had any loquats of any type decades though.
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albusteve Tue, May 4, 2010 6:13:30pm |
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Tue, May 4, 2010 6:14:06pm |
re: #343 researchok
And you would take them off the air?
Hell no, just make them accountable for their errors and intentional misinformation.
As has been said many times, they are entitled to make up their opinions, but not their facts.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 4, 2010 6:14:15pm |
re: #354 albusteve
a miracle…it can change ugly into beauty too…amazing shit
Purple People Eaters.
How’s the grandkid?
And, your visit?
Best wishes, on both!
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Gus Tue, May 4, 2010 6:14:44pm |
re: #371 Killgore Trout
Very true. It’s all part of the Paulification of the conservative mind. I always assumed history would turn out OK for the Bush presidency but I don’t think so anymore. The Tea Parties have turned on Bush. Beck Considers him part of the great progressive conspiracy.
It’s rather strange. It’s as if they’re saying “well now we hate Bush too.” I do think that Brownie has been trying to “blame Bush” for Katrina ever since he was fired.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 4, 2010 6:14:53pm |
re: #33 Gus 802
Brownie was a disgrace. I actually called up my rep and asked for him to be removed because of hurricane Katrina. A few days later he was gone due in large part to the large public outcry against this idiot. Now they’re bringing him out to be a critic of the Obama administration’s handling of this oil spill? What are they on drugs or something?
Which idiot thought putting Michael Brown out to attack Obama over the oil spill was a good idea? That has to qualify as the EPIC FAIL of the season, if not the year.
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Killgore Trout Tue, May 4, 2010 6:14:53pm |
re: #368 researchok
Should MSNBC news be lumped together with their opinion people?
You should be able to answer that yourself. Is MSNBC promoting conspiracy theories? Can you tell the difference between a conspiracy theory and a real news story?
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Renaissance_Man Tue, May 4, 2010 6:15:03pm |
re: #317 researchok
Your assertions are not evidence.
Wendal Golar, Brit Hume, Major Garret, Chris Wallace are FOX News reporters. They are held in high regard by their journalist colleagues. Please point to the ‘fantasy’ you refer to.
It isn’t as if FOX News cut a deal with Saddam Hussein or anyone else to not report or investigate too carefully. You know, like CNN.
Not once, but twice, FOX has decided to put up images of Obama department logos and compare them to flags of Muslim countries. This is not merely bias or slant, this is the creation of a conspiracy out of whole cloth. Even if they decide to mealy-mouth it by ‘we’re just asking questions, you decide’.
When a bunch of schoolkids sang a ten-second verse about Barack Obama during Black History Month, FOX decided, not immediately, but six months later, to run endless stories about it demonstrating ‘indoctrination’ of schoolchildren. FOX pundits and talking heads compared this ten-second verse to no less than Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. The story, ‘indoctrination’ in this case, was created out of nothing. An utterly bewildering accusation of indoctrination levelled at an entirely mundane ten seconds of film; a wholly created media event.
When a random shot fell out of the sky and broke Eric Cantor’s office window, FOX decided to portray this as, no less, ‘police are searching for the gunman that fired a shot through Eric Cantor’s window’, and creating a scare story out of it. No doubt some may argue that this isn’t created out of nothing, because a bullet really did break the window. I think anybody except a blind partisan can see that this is a totally disingenuous and wholly dishonest, not to mention deliberately dishonest, portrayal of the event.
FOX is no longer a news organisation. News organisations do not create politically motivated attacks out of nothing, such as the ACORN fake pimp videos. Yes, FOX may not have directly created that, but they are no doubt the major pusher of the fake evidence, and made hay of the story for as long as it would run. News organisations do not sponsor and promote political activist rallies, as they did with FOX News Tea Parties. Yes, they can say they didn’t, but the ‘FOX News Tea Parties’ graphic on their screen says otherwise.
I would provide links for these, but I do not doubt they have been linked to death. Furthermore, I strongly suspect that any link I would provide that presented any version other than FOX’s of these events would be dismissed by you as a lib smear site and thus considered invalid.
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researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 6:15:19pm |
re: #356 LudwigVanQuixote
I would see to it that news organizations are outed for their open lies and hope that the American people would get tired of being lied to.
Then you would agree that MSNBC promoting Pat Buchanan deserves the same treatment Gibbs gave FOX?
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Tue, May 4, 2010 6:15:19pm |
re: #347 pingjockey
“As God as my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.”
WKRP in Cincinnati had some funny stuff.
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albusteve Tue, May 4, 2010 6:15:21pm |
re: #368 researchok
I don’t apologize for FOX News or anyone else. I don’t have to. Hume, Golar, Wallace, Garret and others are FOX News. Glenn Beck is FOX opinion, not news, as is Alex Jones, Napolitano, et al.
Should MSNBC news be lumped together with their opinion people?
sure, why not?…the agenda for all business is to make money, and the truth has little value with regard to television news…a pimp is a pimp
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Ojoe Tue, May 4, 2010 6:15:38pm |
Heard a rumor today that the oil rig was sabotaged by N. Korea.
anyway there hasn’t been much technical info in the news about what went wrong but here is at least one article.
Link
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 6:15:42pm |
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Gus Tue, May 4, 2010 6:16:10pm |
re: #378 Dark_Falcon
Which idiot thought putting Michael Brown out to attack Obama over the oil spill was a good idea? That has to qualify as the EPIC FAIL of the season, if not the year.
Yeah, it’s almost like trotting out Tom Delay to talk about congressional ethics.
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freetoken Tue, May 4, 2010 6:16:18pm |
re: #343 researchok
And you would take them off the air?
Most of Fox News is not on the air, since they are a cable news network. Yes, a little bit bleeds over to the Fox broadcasting stations, but most of Fox broadcasting is busy with comedies/sci-fi/fantasy to reach the younger demographics.
As far as cable networks go… well, since I’m on the topic of chocolate this afternoon, let me play the part and say “cable is like a box of chocolates”…
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brookly red Tue, May 4, 2010 6:16:31pm |
re: #368 researchok
Should MSNBC news be lumped together with their opinion people?
who needs opinion people? every one has an opinion & most people should wipe it better.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 6:16:50pm |
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 4, 2010 6:17:05pm |
re: #322 Killgore Trout
The only thing that makes Mathew’s leg tingle more than Obama is loony wingnuts…
Matthews grills Brown on his comments about Obama and oil spill (video)
Matching Chris Matthews against Michael Brown is like a match between the turtle and the steamroller: There’s no question about who will win.
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albusteve Tue, May 4, 2010 6:17:15pm |
re: #376 Floral Giraffe
Purple People Eaters.
How’s the grandkid?
And, your visit?
Best wishes, on both!
really a nice gig here….I’m having a fine time and my mini SRV has excelled at baby stuff….thanks
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Tue, May 4, 2010 6:17:16pm |
re: #353 Killgore Trout
Ugh, what is with you people? Nobody’s advocating outlawing Fox.
Nothing more than the seat of the pants, gut feeling, ‘common sense’ form of logic.
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reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 6:17:17pm |
re: #295 austin_blue
Hey Reine!
My understanding is that they had cemented the production casing but just followed it with a pill, not a cement plug, and that well came in on them a day or so later. And they not done the perforation run. Correct?
I don’t know what a pill is, nor a perforation run. I’ve heard neither of those terms. And what I heard sounds like it matches part of what you said, but it doesn’t sound exactly like the rest.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 4, 2010 6:17:31pm |
re: #379 Killgore Trout
You should be able to answer that yourself. Is MSNBC promoting conspiracy theories? Can you tell the difference between a conspiracy theory and a real news story?
They’re AFTER meee!!!!
(Those nice young men, in their clean white coats, they’re coming to take me awayyy!)
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Killgore Trout Tue, May 4, 2010 6:18:13pm |
re: #377 Gus 802
It’s rather strange. It’s as if they’re saying “well now we hate Bush too.” I do think that Brownie has been trying to “blame Bush” for Katrina ever since he was fired.
I think it’s interesting that the wingnuts are pretty much universally misunderstanding Katrina. People who already rabidly hated Bush made a big deal out of it but it gave BDS sufferers no real political advantage or gain. Why the wingnuts want to duplicate the left’s pointless outrage is beyond me.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 4, 2010 6:18:29pm |
re: #392 albusteve
really a nice gig here…I’m having a fine time and my mini SRV has excelled at baby stuff…thanks
YAY! Hug the kid, again. Because you can!
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researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 6:18:32pm |
re: #380 Renaissance_Man
Not once, but twice, FOX has decided to put up images of Obama department logos and compare them to flags of Muslim countries. This is not merely bias or slant, this is the creation of a conspiracy out of whole cloth. Even if they decide to mealy-mouth it by ‘we’re just asking questions, you decide’.
When a bunch of schoolkids sang a ten-second verse about Barack Obama during Black History Month, FOX decided, not immediately, but six months later, to run endless stories about it demonstrating ‘indoctrination’ of schoolchildren. FOX pundits and talking heads compared this ten-second verse to no less than Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. The story, ‘indoctrination’ in this case, was created out of nothing. An utterly bewildering accusation of indoctrination levelled at an entirely mundane ten seconds of film; a wholly created media event.
When a random shot fell out of the sky and broke Eric Cantor’s office window, FOX decided to portray this as, no less, ‘police are searching for the gunman that fired a shot through Eric Cantor’s window’, and creating a scare story out of it. No doubt some may argue that this isn’t created out of nothing, because a bullet really did break the window. I think anybody except a blind partisan can see that this is a totally disingenuous and wholly dishonest, not to mention deliberately dishonest, portrayal of the event.
FOX is no longer a news organisation. News organisations do not create politically motivated attacks out of nothing, such as the ACORN fake pimp videos. Yes, FOX may not have directly created that, but they are no doubt the major pusher of the fake evidence, and made hay of the story for as long as it would run. News organisations do not sponsor and promote political activist rallies, as they did with FOX News Tea Parties. Yes, they can say they didn’t, but the ‘FOX News Tea Parties’ graphic on their screen says otherwise.
I would provide links for these, but I do not doubt they have been linked to death. Furthermore, I strongly suspect that any link I would provide that presented any version other than FOX’s of these events would be dismissed by you as a lib smear site and thus considered invalid.
Like I said, show me where Hume, Wallace, Golar, Garret, et al have ‘cooked the books’.
I can cite MSNBC and CNN for ideological bents.
I can’t and won’t attribute that to Candy Crowley, John King, Wolf Blitzer, etc.
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brookly red Tue, May 4, 2010 6:18:39pm |
re: #395 Floral Giraffe
They’re AFTER meee!!!
(Those nice young men, in their clean white coats, they’re coming to take me awayyy!)
didn’t think you were that old….
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bratwurst Tue, May 4, 2010 6:19:14pm |
re: #396 Killgore Trout
Why the wingnuts want to duplicate the left’s pointless outrage is beyond me.
Their appetite for tu quoque is insatiable?
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researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 6:19:26pm |
re: #387 freetoken
Most of Fox News is not on the air, since they are a cable news network. Yes, a little bit bleeds over to the Fox broadcasting stations, but most of Fox broadcasting is busy with comedies/sci-fi/fantasy to reach the younger demographics.
As far as cable networks go… well, since I’m on the topic of chocolate this afternoon, let me play the part and say “cable is like a box of chocolates”…
Agreed.
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Aceofwhat? Tue, May 4, 2010 6:19:29pm |
re: #395 Floral Giraffe
They’re AFTER meee!!!
(Those nice young men, in their clean white coats, they’re coming to take me awayyy!)
oh, stop…you want those boys to take you…/
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 6:19:50pm |
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Decatur Deb Tue, May 4, 2010 6:20:09pm |
re: #401 bratwurst
Their appetite for tu quoque is insatiable?
I hope there’s a recipe in the 3rd Lizard cookbook.
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austin_blue Tue, May 4, 2010 6:20:19pm |
re: #343 researchok
And you would take them off the air?
Of course not! Their viewers are a good indicator of the number of the number of Americans who *like* video indoctrination.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 6:20:33pm |
re: #381 researchok
Then you would agree that MSNBC promoting Pat Buchanan deserves the same treatment Gibbs gave FOX?
I am appalled that Buchanan is on any programming. However, Fox has such a sordid history of lies, distortions, hysteria mongering, and outright propaganda that there is no comparison between the two.
Renn had a good list.
An exhaustive list of Fox’s many blatant and intentional lies and distortions would however be many volumes long. There is no excuse for them and no defense.
And don’t even get me started on their science reporting… Anti-evolution crap, Noah’s ark crap, anti-AGW crap, anti-NASA crap, Anti stem-cell crap in a list that itself would be volumes long.
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researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 6:20:43pm |
re: #383 albusteve
sure, why not?…the agenda for all business is to make money, and the truth has little value with regard to television news…a pimp is a pimp
Best insight of the day.
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albusteve Tue, May 4, 2010 6:21:02pm |
re: #396 Killgore Trout
I think it’s interesting that the wingnuts are pretty much universally misunderstanding Katrina. People who already rabidly hated Bush made a big deal out of it but it gave BDS sufferers no real political advantage or gain. Why the wingnuts want to duplicate the left’s pointless outrage is beyond me.
Katrina is ancient history…there is an entire army of new lunatics who have not been around the board yet
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 6:22:13pm |
re: #372 researchok
How do Hume, Wallace, Garret and others differ from anyone else?
You are deluding yourself if you think they are not another arm of Fox opinion.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Tue, May 4, 2010 6:22:14pm |
re: #368 researchok
I don’t apologize for FOX News or anyone else. I don’t have to. Hume, Golar, Wallace, Garret and others are FOX News. Glenn Beck is FOX opinion, not news, as is Alex Jones, Napolitano, et al.
Should MSNBC news be lumped together with their opinion people?
If you feel it necessary to pointedly mention you don’t have to apologize for FOX, you may be a bit too invested in their ideology.
As for MSNBC, only Olberman is over the top and he doesn’t compare to Hannity, Beck, or even O’reilly.
Loon level is a concern.
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Gus Tue, May 4, 2010 6:22:16pm |
re: #396 Killgore Trout
I think it’s interesting that the wingnuts are pretty much universally misunderstanding Katrina. People who already rabidly hated Bush made a big deal out of it but it gave BDS sufferers no real political advantage or gain. Why the wingnuts want to duplicate the left’s pointless outrage is beyond me.
Bingo! Lesson not learned I guess. People can be so politically cynical that they will repeat the same irrational conclusion of those they opposed only years ago. It’s like an equal but opposite reaction. Different ideologies or parties yet equal behavioral motivations. Thus we have “Bush created Katrina” opposite “Obama created the Gulf Oil Spill.”
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 6:23:39pm |
re: #381 researchok
Then you would agree that MSNBC promoting Pat Buchanan deserves the same treatment Gibbs gave FOX?
Considering that Buchanan is sort of a laughingstock on the shows on MSNBC he’s on, it’s not really a reasonable comparison. Chris Matthews routinely baits him and laughs in his face. he treats him like a pet Bircher.
but get on with your false equivalency!
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researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 6:23:45pm |
re: #408 LudwigVanQuixote
I am appalled that Buchanan is on any programming. However, Fox has such a sordid history of lies, distortions, hysteria mongering, and outright propaganda that there is no comparison between the two.
Renn had a good list.
An exhaustive list of Fox’s many blatant and intentional lies and distortions would however be many volumes long. There is no excuse for them and no defense.
And don’t even get me started on their science reporting… Anti-evolution crap, Noah’s ark crap, anti-AGW crap, anti-NASA crap, Anti stem-cell crap in a list that itself would be volumes long.
Sorry, LVQ. While I respect your opinion, I have not seen the real news people engage in the kindof behavior you refer to.
If we were talking about opinion, I’d be right there with you, for the most part. My beef with FOX opinion goes beyond the ideological crap. They seem bound and determined to be a part of the story- and that’s what sets me off more than anything else.
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brookly red Tue, May 4, 2010 6:23:48pm |
re: #401 bratwurst
Their appetite for tu quoque is insatiable?
I will have mine with some fresh Mozzarella,
tu quogue Parmesan… outstanding with a good red.
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freetoken Tue, May 4, 2010 6:23:51pm |
re: #373 Bear
Right now (today, tomorrow) is prime loquat picking here in San Diego. Yesterday and today were rather warm and the loquats are starting to fall off the trees/bushes.
Let me play the part of the curmudgeon and claim:
Children of today are lame.
When I was a kid I remember that whenever a fruit tree came due in the neighborhood we kids would climb it and pick what we could, at least until someone yelled at us. Cherries, crabapples, apples. I used to go to a large park in town, where there were some wild pear trees - remember those.
Anyway, in my current neighborhood are loquat trees with an abundant crop (this is the best year in the recent past), and now that they are ripe the loquats are starting to fall.
The kids today? Pay no notice. None. Evidently they can’t recognize food when they see it, or they are too lazy to pick it and clean it themselves. Fresh fruit is so superior to what I find in the local super-markets, but I guess nothing counts as “food” anymore if it doesn’t come wrapped in plastic and made of corn syrup.
We’ve raised one (at least one, maybe we’re on our second now) generation of people totally disconnected (in their minds and culture) from the physical universe in which they are embedded.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 6:24:21pm |
re: #419 researchok
Sorry, LVQ. While I respect your opinion, I have not seen the real news people engage in the kindof behavior you refer to.
If we were talking about opinion, I’d be right there with you, for the most part. My beef with FOX opinion goes beyond the ideological crap. They seem bound and determined to be a part of the story- and that’s what sets me off more than anything else.
Do a you tube search and you will satisfy yourself.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Tue, May 4, 2010 6:24:29pm |
re: #372 researchok
How do Hume, Wallace, Garret and others differ from anyone else?
Probably not a lot, but what they put out there, as determined by their bosses, differs in its truth value, or at least the implication of truth.
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austin_blue Tue, May 4, 2010 6:24:43pm |
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researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 6:24:44pm |
re: #413 LudwigVanQuixote
You are deluding yourself if you think they are not another arm of Fox opinion.
Disagree entirely. These guys have good reputations as journalists.
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reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 6:24:46pm |
re: #406 Decatur Deb
I hope there’s a recipe in the 3rd Lizard cookbook.
Won’t be a 3rd one if we don’t sell at least 100 copies of Volume 2
Right now, sale count is 19. We had sold more than 50 by this time after Volume 1 was issued.
MOTHER’S DAY IS COMING UP!
See the latest ad at the cookbook blog, and check out the book!
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bratwurst Tue, May 4, 2010 6:24:48pm |
re: #405 WindUpBird
In an interview with Newsmax Television, Graham was asked if he though there was a “pattern of hostility to traditional Christianity by the Obama administration.”
Wow, big scoop for Newsmax Television. 9_9
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 4, 2010 6:25:21pm |
re: #410 albusteve
Katrina is ancient history…there is an entire army of new lunatics who have not been around the board yet
Hey Steve, I’ve been waiting for you to be here so I could post this link for you:
It’s about the making of Exile On Main Street.
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researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 6:25:27pm |
re: #423 b_sharp
Probably not a lot, but what they put out there, as determined by their bosses, differs in its truth value, or at least the implication of truth.
I see. it’s a conspiracy.
Any evidence of that?
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reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 6:25:31pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 6:25:55pm |
re: #414 b_sharp
If you feel it necessary to pointedly mention you don’t have to apologize for FOX, you may be a bit too invested in their ideology.
As for MSNBC, only Olberman is over the top and he doesn’t compare to Hannity, Beck, or even O’reilly.
Loon level is a concern.
I’m trying to remember the last time Olbermann advocated that a US city be attacked by terrorists
They really make it so easy, when they say things like that. They lay their dingy and hideous souls bare, and we know how they really feel.
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researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 6:26:54pm |
re: #422 LudwigVanQuixote
Do a you tube search and you will satisfy yourself.
Sure. What am I looking for?
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Tue, May 4, 2010 6:27:31pm |
re: #381 researchok
Then you would agree that MSNBC promoting Pat Buchanan deserves the same treatment Gibbs gave FOX?
Sure.
But that doesn’t mean Gibbs shouldn’t give FOX crap because MSNBC didn’t get the same treatment.
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darthstar Tue, May 4, 2010 6:27:49pm |
re: #432 researchok
Sure. What am I looking for?
Little thing…kind of roundish…missing 23 chromosomes.
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brookly red Tue, May 4, 2010 6:28:00pm |
phuc, someone is home and I didn’t do the dishes… or put the laundry away… or much of freakin anything… this could be bad.
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jaunte Tue, May 4, 2010 6:28:03pm |
re: #426 reine.de.tout
Won’t be a 3rd one if we don’t sell at least 100 copies of Volume 2
Right now, sale count is 19. We had sold more than 50 by this time after Volume 1 was issued.
MOTHER’S DAY IS COMING UP!
See the latest ad at the cookbook blog, and check out the book!
107 are logged in.
Don’t disappoint Mom!
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Killgore Trout Tue, May 4, 2010 6:28:06pm |
re: #410 albusteve
Good to see you. I hope all is well.
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darthstar Tue, May 4, 2010 6:28:19pm |
re: #434 darthstar
Little thing…kind of roundish…missing 23 chromosomes.
Sorry…wrong kind of tube search…never mind.
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Stanley Sea Tue, May 4, 2010 6:28:44pm |
re: #426 reine.de.tout
Won’t be a 3rd one if we don’t sell at least 100 copies of Volume 2
Right now, sale count is 19. We had sold more than 50 by this time after Volume 1 was issued.
MOTHER’S DAY IS COMING UP!
See the latest ad at the cookbook blog, and check out the book!
I got my cookbook today!
It is excellent! Worth every (measly) penny it cost. 16 bucks? Come on people - and there’s a great risotto recipe from Obdicut & another excellent shrimp recipe I can’t wait to try (this weekend) from Rightwingconspirator. And that’s just 2.
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Killgore Trout Tue, May 4, 2010 6:29:09pm |
re: #426 reine.de.tout
Won’t be a 3rd one if we don’t sell at least 100 copies of Volume 2
Right now, sale count is 19. We had sold more than 50 by this time after Volume 1 was issued.
MOTHER’S DAY IS COMING UP!
See the latest ad at the cookbook blog, and check out the book!
I’m going to order mine later this week. I hope to see those sales numbers improve.
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Four More Tears Tue, May 4, 2010 6:29:19pm |
re: #431 WindUpBird
This is the same man who was shocked to discover that black people act civilly in Harlem restaurants.
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Nimed Tue, May 4, 2010 6:29:29pm |
re: #414 b_sharp
As for MSNBC, only Olberman is over the top and he doesn’t compare to Hannity, Beck, or even O’reilly.
I instinctively agree with this. Then again, I’m a lefty.
I wish there was some minimally satisfactory way of measuring bias that people on both sides of the political spectrum could agree with.
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researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 6:29:53pm |
re: #433 b_sharp
Sure.
But that doesn’t mean Gibbs shouldn’t give FOX crap because MSNBC didn’t get the same treatment.
Agreed. I have no issue with that, though I do believe bashing Golar was low class. He didn’t have to make it personal. Golar has no part in who FOX opinion books.
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reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 6:30:02pm |
re: #426 reine.de.tout
Won’t be a 3rd one if we don’t sell at least 100 copies of Volume 2
Right now, sale count is 19. We had sold more than 50 by this time after Volume 1 was issued.
MOTHER’S DAY IS COMING UP!
See the latest ad at the cookbook blog, and check out the book!
Oh, and btw- for anyone who may be pissed off with me for any reason -
It’s NOT MY BOOK.
It is the LGF readers’ cookbook, produced mostly by Jaunte and his assistant, with help from the many lizards who donated recipes and poems, and proceeds will support LGF and Soldier’s Angels.
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Political Atheist Tue, May 4, 2010 6:30:17pm |
re: #426 reine.de.tout
Gotta wait for payday, but we plan on a couple more for Christmas presents we can stash. When we get our first two, its grocery shopping time!
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 6:30:34pm |
re: #432 researchok
Sure. What am I looking for?
Try a search that starts with I don’t know, Fox lies…
it only produced 7 pages of results in youtube.
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researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 6:31:05pm |
re: #442 Nimed
I instinctively agree with this. Then again, I’m a lefty.
I wish there was some minimally satisfactory way of measuring bias that people on both sides of the political spectrum could agree with.
Tougher than finding Noah’s Ark.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 6:31:16pm |
re: #425 researchok
Disagree entirely. These guys have good reputations as journalists.
Not quite. Wallace is actually more like Beck’s lil’ buddy that repeats everything he says
This is how the machinery works, don’t be fooled. The marquee opinion wackos pitch it out there, then the so-called “journalists” on Fox echo their points, with a different patina so as to create the illusion of it being “news”.
| 449 |
Bear Tue, May 4, 2010 6:31:50pm |
re: #421 freetoken
That was in Berkeley but way back in the 1930s. Next door neighbor had an apricot tree. I never have had as good tasting apricots as from that tree and am always disappointed when I buy apricots now. No taste at all.
| 450 |
Renaissance_Man Tue, May 4, 2010 6:32:41pm |
re: #399 researchok
Like I said, show me where Hume, Wallace, Golar, Garret, et al have ‘cooked the books’.
So your argument is that certain FOX reporters do not make up the stories themselves? That’s probably true. Indeed, it’s entirely possible that some FOX reporters even only rarely indulge in the FOX reporting model, which is to report the entirely made up notions of their pundits, a few hours previously, as a ‘some pundits say’ uncritical fact.
The station as a whole pushes a disingenuous model of reporting, and a fantastical version of reality. You say that there is a clear distinction between their ‘news’ and their ‘opinion’ - I think it’s clear that FOX has done their best to blend and blur any such line, if indeed one exists. The network as a whole, indeed, the Conservative cult media as a whole, have created a fantasy world for their followers to live in. It is a complete mythos, with monolithic evil and conspiracies behind every bush, and doughty everyman heroes struggling against the forces of darkness. They have borrowed heavily from reality to make this world, even going so far as to name their villain after the President, but it’s still a fantasy. And I think it is disingenuous to claim any distinction between their ‘fact’ parts and their ‘fantasy’ parts, when FOX themselves makes no effort to distinguish between the two.
| 451 |
Walking Spanish Down the Hall Tue, May 4, 2010 6:32:44pm |
re: #395 Floral Giraffe
They’re AFTER meee!!!
(Those nice young men, in their clean white coats, they’re coming to take me awayyy!)
Thirty days have Septober
April, June, and Nowonder
All the rest have peanut butter
All except my dear grandmother
She had a little red tricycle
I stole it
| 452 |
Stanley Sea Tue, May 4, 2010 6:33:14pm |
re: #443 researchok
Agreed. I have no issue with that, though I do believe bashing Golar was low class. He didn’t have to make it personal. Golar has no part in who FOX opinion books.
What was the actual question Golar asked? Was it about the spill and response time? (no idea)
| 453 |
Gus Tue, May 4, 2010 6:33:17pm |
Looking at the public record:
The White House
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release
April 22, 2010
Statement by the Press Secretary on the President’s Oval Office Meeting to Discuss the Situation in the Gulf of Mexico
The United States Coast Guard informed the President that search and rescue efforts are ongoing. The President made sure that the entire federal government was offering all assistance needed in the rescue effort as well as in mitigating and responding to the environmental impact and that this response was being treated as the number one priority. The President asked the responding departments to devote every resource needed to respond to this incident and investigate its cause.
The National Response Team has been activated and Unified and Area Commands have been established near New Orleans to coordinate search and rescue operations and oil spill response efforts.
The Department of the Interior and the Minerals Management Service as well as the Coast Guard are also working with responsible parties to support their important efforts to secure the pollution sources. Deputy Secretary of the Interior David Hayes was dispatched to the region yesterday to assist with coordination and response. The President wishes to thank the bravery of the professionals across the government who have worked non-stop over the last two days to save lives and protect the environment.
Don’t see any delay there.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 4, 2010 6:34:15pm |
| 455 |
Walking Spanish Down the Hall Tue, May 4, 2010 6:34:19pm |
re: #401 bratwurst
Their appetite for tu quoque is insatiable?
Apparently it makes a great burger.
Or maybe its like a cow chewing its cud.
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Killgore Trout Tue, May 4, 2010 6:34:28pm |
re: #444 reine.de.tout
I don’t think anyone is pissed at you. We had a lot of our hardcore addict lizards flounce and I think that’s the reason for the lower sales.
| 457 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 6:34:29pm |
re: #441 JasonA
This is the same man who was shocked to discover that black people act civilly in Harlem restaurants.
He’s such a pig, it’s almost funny
I was once working for these people who owned a jewelry shop, setting up their web presence, doing batch photo conversions, basic freelance nerd services. They wanted me to help them print something out that was giving them trouble, and when I printed it out I discovered it was tickets to a live Bill O’Reilly event. :D OH THE PAIN
| 458 |
Spare O'Lake Tue, May 4, 2010 6:34:38pm |
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Gus Tue, May 4, 2010 6:35:12pm |
re: #453 Gus 802
I also recall many people blowing it off and seeing the event as only an oil rig fire with some oil leakage. I was a little bit skeptical at first and thought this might blow into a major event. In the long run it has turned out to be worst than first expected.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, May 4, 2010 6:35:38pm |
Update from Mayor Bloomberg…
“Mayor Bloomberg responded to criticism today about his remarks in regards to the “type” of person that may have been responsible for the Times Square failed bomb attempt. Bloomberg clarified “I was suggesting that the bomber was probably a naturalized American of Pakistani origins who belonged to the Tea Party.”
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researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 6:35:39pm |
re: #448 WindUpBird
Not quite. Wallace is actually more like Beck’s lil’ buddy that repeats everything he says
This is how the machinery works, don’t be fooled. The marquee opinion wackos pitch it out there, then the so-called “journalists” on Fox echo their points, with a different patina so as to create the illusion of it being “news”.
Saw that. Lots of opinion.
More than that, lots of things Beck says Wallace disagrees with. I didn’t notice a MM report on that, for some reason.
You can try all you like but you cannot paint FOX News with one brush anymore than you can do that to MSNBC or CNN.
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austin_blue Tue, May 4, 2010 6:35:44pm |
re: #394 reine.de.tout
I don’t know what a pill is, nor a perforation run. I’ve heard neither of those terms. And what I heard sounds like it matches part of what you said, but it doesn’t sound exactly like the rest.
The pill is a slug of very heavy mud that is injected behind cement to keep the bottom of the open casing secure (from intrusion by water/natural gas). The perforation run is conducted after Schlumberger or whoever does the final logging run to ID the final production zones. It burns hoes through the casing to allow hydrocarbons to enter the well bore. Usually, this is done after a plug at the bottom of the production casing is installed.
The real question at this point (based on what has been reported) is why the well kicked and blew after the production casing had been set. That is very, very unusual.
| 463 |
Killgore Trout Tue, May 4, 2010 6:35:59pm |
re: #454 Floral Giraffe
When I was a little kid I had a 45 of that.
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iceweasel Tue, May 4, 2010 6:36:01pm |
So has “luggage lifter” entered our lexicon yet? It doesn’t have quite the ring of “Appalachian Fail” or “hiking the Appalachian Trail” but it has a good beat and we can dance to it….
| 465 |
Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 6:36:25pm |
Ice I know you are lurking, check out the isf Shakespeareans had a snappy gay friend posts. You will laugh.
It was brought by the people who made:
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Nimed Tue, May 4, 2010 6:36:51pm |
re: #441 JasonA
This is the same man who was shocked to discover that black people act civilly in Harlem restaurants.
Those people at Sylvia’s really knew how to use napkins and cutlery and shit. And nobody called me a MFer during the whole meal! Swear to God!
| 467 |
researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 6:37:24pm |
re: #446 LudwigVanQuixote
Try a search that starts with I don’t know, Fox lies…
it only produced 7 pages of results in youtube.
Entertainment.
You can do a search h on ‘MSNBC lies’ and find the same kind of drivel.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 4, 2010 6:37:47pm |
re: #444 reine.de.tout
Mine didn’t arrive yet.
*pouts*
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Killgore Trout Tue, May 4, 2010 6:38:06pm |
re: #461 researchok
Conspiracy theories are not valid opinions. That’s not going to change. Get used to it.
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Spare O'Lake Tue, May 4, 2010 6:38:09pm |
re: #460 Walter L. Newton
Update from Mayor Bloomberg…
“Mayor Bloomberg responded to criticism today about his remarks in regards to the “type” of person that may have been responsible for the Times Square failed bomb attempt. Bloomberg clarified “I was suggesting that the bomber was probably a naturalized American of Pakistani origins who belonged to the Tea Party.”
I read that too.
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reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 6:38:13pm |
re: #468 Floral Giraffe
Mine didn’t arrive yet.
*pouts*
Mine either, though the order shows it has shipped.
*pouts bigger*
| 472 |
Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 6:38:18pm |
re: #467 researchok
Entertainment.
You can do a search h on ‘MSNBC lies’ and find the same kind of drivel.
It is not all drivel. Just look into it with an open mind.
| 473 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, May 4, 2010 6:38:23pm |
re: #467 researchok
Entertainment.
You can do a search h on ‘MSNBC lies’ and find the same kind of drivel.
But the stuff about Fox is true.
| 474 |
Racer X Tue, May 4, 2010 6:38:27pm |
re: #456 Killgore Trout
I don’t think anyone is pissed at you. We had a lot of our hardcore addict lizards flounce and I think that’s the reason for the lower sales.
The ones with jobs?
I’M KIDDING!
| 475 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, May 4, 2010 6:38:56pm |
re: #470 Spare O’Lake
I read that too.
Really? i just made that up… it was sarcasm from “The Walter Show”
| 476 |
Political Atheist Tue, May 4, 2010 6:39:15pm |
re: #462 austin_blue
I am suspicious of then hitting one of the rare ultra high pressure pockets of gas. Speculations…
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Tue, May 4, 2010 6:39:23pm |
re: #429 researchok
I see. it’s a conspiracy.
Any evidence of that?
Doing what your bosses tell you in the form of a tele-prompter is a conspiracy?
Read for comprehension man.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 4, 2010 6:39:32pm |
re: #471 reine.de.tout
Mine either, though the order shows it has shipped.
*pouts bigger*
*smooch*
Because I can!
How was the trip to the vets?
| 480 |
researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 6:39:38pm |
| 481 |
Political Atheist Tue, May 4, 2010 6:39:42pm |
| 482 |
freetoken Tue, May 4, 2010 6:40:06pm |
re: #456 Killgore Trout
Also, these days discretionary funds are tight.
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Reginald Perrin Tue, May 4, 2010 6:40:27pm |
re: #350 Floral Giraffe
Why do you give so much attention to the village of the banned?
Bunch of deranged stalkers,
Because the intellectual midgets are such good comedy material, especially when Martinez is three sheets to the wind.
| 484 |
Stanley Sea Tue, May 4, 2010 6:40:55pm |
re: #452 Stanley Sea
What was the actual question Golar asked? Was it about the spill and response time? (no idea)
Found my answer:
When Fox News’ Wendell Goler asked Gibbs in his daily briefing to respond to critics who say the oil leak is “President Obama’s Katrina?”
OK, so that was the wonderful question asked by the seasoned Fox News reporter.
Gibbs had every right to respond as he did.
| 485 |
Killgore Trout Tue, May 4, 2010 6:41:26pm |
| 486 |
researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 6:41:31pm |
re: #477 b_sharp
Doing what your bosses tell you in the form of a tele-prompter is a conspiracy?
Read for comprehension man.
I’m sorry I missed your evidence.
| 487 |
Spare O'Lake Tue, May 4, 2010 6:41:54pm |
re: #475 Walter L. Newton
Really? i just made that up… it was sarcasm from “The Walter Show”
That’s really weird…I must be suffering from Bloomberg Derangement Syndrome.
| 488 |
austin_blue Tue, May 4, 2010 6:42:01pm |
re: #476 Rightwingconspirator
I am suspicious of then hitting one of the rare ultra high pressure pockets of gas. Speculations…
They would have hit during the drilling process, not when they were setting production casing. They would have been *past* it.
| 489 |
Racer X Tue, May 4, 2010 6:42:03pm |
| 490 |
Walking Spanish Down the Hall Tue, May 4, 2010 6:42:14pm |
re: #435 brookly red
phuc, someone is home and I didn’t do the dishes… or put the laundry away… or much of freakin anything… this could be bad.
Hide.
Pretend the dog did it.
Say you just walked in yourself.
Misdirect, misdirect, misdirect.
Feign sickness, or a broken foot.
Stick your finger up your nose and pretend you can’t get it out.
| 491 |
Stanley Sea Tue, May 4, 2010 6:42:20pm |
re: #471 reine.de.tout
Mine either, though the order shows it has shipped.
*pouts bigger*
I’m very lucky! :)
| 492 |
KingKenrod Tue, May 4, 2010 6:42:59pm |
re: #448 WindUpBird
Not quite. Wallace is actually more like Beck’s lil’ buddy that repeats everything he says
This is how the machinery works, don’t be fooled. The marquee opinion wackos pitch it out there, then the so-called “journalists” on Fox echo their points, with a different patina so as to create the illusion of it being “news”.
That’s quite a smear of Chris Wallace that Media Matters put together. Do you honestly consider articles like this to be persuasive?
| 494 |
Athens Runaway Tue, May 4, 2010 6:44:13pm |
re: #492 KingKenrod
That’s quite a smear of Chris Wallace that Media Matters put together. Do you honestly consider articles like this to be persuasive?
MediaMatters is gospel truth around these parts. :)
| 495 |
albusteve Tue, May 4, 2010 6:44:38pm |
re: #428 Dark_Falcon
Hey Steve, I’ve been waiting for you to be here so I could post this link for you:
It’s about the making of Exile On Main Street.
juicy!….thanks bro
| 496 |
reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 6:45:01pm |
re: #462 austin_blue
The pill is a slug of very heavy mud that is injected behind cement to keep the bottom of the open casing secure (from intrusion by water/natural gas). The perforation run is conducted after Schlumberger or whoever does the final logging run to ID the final production zones. It burns hoes through the casing to allow hydrocarbons to enter the well bore. Usually, this is done after a plug at the bottom of the production casing is installed.
The real question at this point (based on what has been reported) is why the well kicked and blew after the production casing had been set. That is very, very unusual.
I think it’s known why. The Roi listened to the guy on the Mark Levin show the other night, and told me what the guy said made no sense. At any rate, he’s got a different version he says makes sense to him. But we’ll see how it plays out I guess.
| 497 |
reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 6:45:22pm |
re: #464 iceweasel
So has “luggage lifter” entered our lexicon yet? It doesn’t have quite the ring of “Appalachian Fail” or “hiking the Appalachian Trail” but it has a good beat and we can dance to it…
I want Vin Diesel.
YOu need to get your order in.
| 498 |
researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 6:45:39pm |
re: #492 KingKenrod
That’s quite a smear of Chris Wallace that Media Matters put together. Do you honestly consider articles like this to be persuasive?
In defense MM, while they don’t always get it right- and certainly did not in the Wallace matter- they are a lot better than they used to be.
| 499 |
Walking Spanish Down the Hall Tue, May 4, 2010 6:45:51pm |
re: #453 Gus 802
Looking at the public record:
The White House
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release
April 22, 2010
Statement by the Press Secretary on the President’s Oval Office Meeting to Discuss the Situation in the Gulf of MexicoDon’t see any delay there.
Where is a certain lizard when he/she needs to see something important?
| 500 |
albusteve Tue, May 4, 2010 6:46:10pm |
| 501 |
reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 6:47:07pm |
re: #478 Floral Giraffe
*smooch*
Because I can!
How was the trip to the vets?
Cat is amazingly healthy for an 18/19 year old cat. Amazing.
Dog has some problems; he’s had health problems the whole time we’ve had him. He may have something called Cushing’s Syndrome (you can look it up); but seems to be basically OK. He’s 10; so it’s not surprising he has a few problems.
The cat has gone into hiding.
The dog has already forgotten we took the trip.
| 502 |
Walking Spanish Down the Hall Tue, May 4, 2010 6:47:13pm |
re: #457 WindUpBird
He’s such a pig, it’s almost funny
I was once working for these people who owned a jewelry shop, setting up their web presence, doing batch photo conversions, basic freelance nerd services. They wanted me to help them print something out that was giving them trouble, and when I printed it out I discovered it was tickets to a live Bill O’Reilly event. :D OH THE PAIN
I’d send you a hug, but my wife might object.
| 503 |
Dark_Falcon Tue, May 4, 2010 6:47:23pm |
re: #464 iceweasel
So has “luggage lifter” entered our lexicon yet? It doesn’t have quite the ring of “Appalachian Fail” or “hiking the Appalachian Trail” but it has a good beat and we can dance to it…
No, it won’t. These “SoCon Pastor is Gay” scandals are a regular feature now. This one is just pathetic.
| 504 |
Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 6:47:57pm |
| 505 |
Gus Tue, May 4, 2010 6:48:33pm |
re: #484 Stanley Sea
Found my answer:
When Fox News’ Wendell Goler asked Gibbs in his daily briefing to respond to critics who say the oil leak is “President Obama’s Katrina?”
OK, so that was the wonderful question asked by the seasoned Fox News reporter.
Gibbs had every right to respond as he did.
“Obama’s Katrina” site:msnbc.msn.com - 70 Hits
“Obama’s Katrina” site:cbsnews.com - 112 Hits
“Obama’s Katrina” site:foxnews.com - 7,790 Hits Already
Fox News wins the “Obama’s Katrina” Meme Award.
| 506 |
Decatur Deb Tue, May 4, 2010 6:48:40pm |
re: #464 iceweasel
So has “luggage lifter” entered our lexicon yet? It doesn’t have quite the ring of “Appalachian Fail” or “hiking the Appalachian Trail” but it has a good beat and we can dance to it…
Wide Stance Shuffle or the Toilet Tap?
| 507 |
iceweasel Tue, May 4, 2010 6:49:13pm |
re: #465 LudwigVanQuixote
Ice I know you are lurking, check out the isf Shakespeareans had a snappy gay friend posts. You will laugh.
It was brought by the people who made:
[Video]
Not lurking— postin! Drinkin’! (well, earlier we were!) Jimmah says hi.
| 508 |
Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 4, 2010 6:49:45pm |
re: #500 albusteve
on the road…sort of…visiting my mini pirate
Draw a map for him, to find the gold in Jamaica, with the understanding that it might or might not be there, by the time he goes to look for it. Leave the cash for a plane ticket & fund the treasure hunt. He’ll get to go somewhere you loved and have a grand time. You can go with him, if you’re still around.
| 509 |
austin_blue Tue, May 4, 2010 6:50:07pm |
re: #496 reine.de.tout
I think it’s known why. The Roi listened to the guy on the Mark Levin show the other night, and told me what the guy said made no sense. At any rate, he’s got a different version he says makes sense to him. But we’ll see how it plays out I guess.
Okay, you’ve got me drooling. Dish! What’s Roi’s best guess?
| 510 |
Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 6:50:25pm |
re: #507 iceweasel
Not lurking— postin! Drinkin’! (well, earlier we were!) Jimmah says hi.
Hey to you both… I’ve decided that I am concerned lately and I have been asking questions…
| 511 |
zora Tue, May 4, 2010 6:50:29pm |
re: #497 reine.de.tout
i think i would like to rent a boy. to spread the gospel to, i mean. my husband is a good christian man. he should understand.
| 512 |
Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 4, 2010 6:50:31pm |
re: #507 iceweasel
Hi back at you both!
*waves*
| 513 |
Walking Spanish Down the Hall Tue, May 4, 2010 6:51:17pm |
re: #486 researchok
I’m sorry I missed your evidence.
Why would I have evidence for a conspiracy I didn’t posit?
| 514 |
Racer X Tue, May 4, 2010 6:51:29pm |
| 515 |
Four More Tears Tue, May 4, 2010 6:52:32pm |
re: #505 Gus 802
“Obama’s Katrina” site:msnbc.msn.com - 70 Hits
“Obama’s Katrina” site:cbsnews.com - 112 Hits
My Google only says 1,860. Is yours better?
“Obama’s Katrina” site:foxnews.com - 7,790 Hits AlreadyFox News wins the “Obama’s Katrina” Meme Award.
| 516 |
iceweasel Tue, May 4, 2010 6:53:09pm |
re: #503 Dark_Falcon
No, it won’t. These “SoCon Pastor is Gay” scandals are a regular feature now. This one is just pathetic.
WTF, seriously. Double wet suits, toetappin’, snorting meth off a gay hooker’s ass (Hi, Ted Haggard!)— Now we have this guy evangelicing to gay people— one rent boy at a time.
Seriously, I just read Rekers’ new ‘explanation’ over at Joe.My.God and pathetic doesn’t even begin to cover it.
re: #444 reine.de.tout
Oh, and btw- for anyone who may be pissed off with me for any reason -
But who would be angry with you, Reine? Why?
| 517 |
webevintage Tue, May 4, 2010 6:53:34pm |
re: #453 Gus 802
Looking at the public record:
The White House
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release
April 22, 2010Don’t see any delay there.
Why do you have to bring the truth into it?
Stop messing up their narrative.
| 518 |
Decatur Deb Tue, May 4, 2010 6:54:14pm |
| 520 |
freetoken Tue, May 4, 2010 6:54:58pm |
| 521 |
Gus Tue, May 4, 2010 6:55:09pm |
re: #515 JasonA
Ran it again and it was 7,750. Might be your options?
| 522 |
researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 6:55:13pm |
re: #513 b_sharp
Why would I have evidence for a conspiracy I didn’t posit?
You did.
You said they report what they are told to report.
| 523 |
Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 6:55:40pm |
OK I rather like this…
Yoda answers questions…
So being the geek that I am I asked…
How can you rectify gravity with quantum mechanics?
To which it responded:
Allow the obstacle to become the path. This is actually insanely brilliant in it’s way as a real physics answer,. However I was skeptical that computer Yoda really understand the principle of equivalence…
So,
I tried
How can you rectify Palin’s stupidity with her popularity?
and received the same answer… :(
| 524 |
Vicious Babushka Tue, May 4, 2010 6:55:51pm |
re: #465 LudwigVanQuixote
Ice I know you are lurking, check out the isf Shakespeareans had a snappy gay friend posts. You will laugh.
I am sure that Tatiana (from “A Midsummer Night’s Dream”) had scads of snappy gay friends. She was, after, all, the Fairy Queen. (groans all around)
| 525 |
Stanley Sea Tue, May 4, 2010 6:56:03pm |
re: #517 webevintage
Why do you have to bring the truth into it?
Stop messing up their narrative.
Ah, wait for another 100 posts. All forgotten by then. Round 2 will begin.
Tiring, actually!
| 526 |
Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 6:57:15pm |
re: #520 freetoken
Heh… I got “smart”.
What did I win?
Loosing about two minutes of your life that you will never get back!
| 527 |
Four More Tears Tue, May 4, 2010 6:57:28pm |
re: #521 Gus 802
Ran it again and it was 7,750. Might be your options?
My Google’s more tyrannical than yours :P
| 528 |
Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 6:57:46pm |
re: #524 Alouette
I am sure that Tatiana (from “A Midsummer Night’s Dream”) had scads of snappy gay friends. She was, after, all, the Fairy Queen. (groans all around)
And they gave her good advice about Oberon! See it still works!
| 529 |
Gus Tue, May 4, 2010 6:58:04pm |
| 530 |
Walking Spanish Down the Hall Tue, May 4, 2010 6:58:30pm |
re: #522 researchok
You did.
You said they report what they are told to report.
That’s not a conspiracy, that’s a job. It’s a condition of employment.
They read what is on the teleprompter.
| 531 |
Four More Tears Tue, May 4, 2010 6:58:52pm |
Speaking of Obama’s Katrina:
| 532 |
Spare O'Lake Tue, May 4, 2010 6:59:48pm |
I just watched an interview on CNN with Billy Graham Jr. being worried by Campbell Brown over his “problem with the way Islam treats women” comments. Surprisingly, he refused to rise to the Obama bait and he acquitted himself extremely well…I thought Campbell was gonna pop a vein.
| 533 |
Dancing along the light of day Tue, May 4, 2010 6:59:51pm |
| 534 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 7:00:03pm |
This is a Bornem Dubbel: beeradvocate.com
it is a very good beer, I had some last night, I recommend it highly if you like dark, sweet belgian styles and are tired of drinking Chimay red label all the time
| 535 |
swamprat Tue, May 4, 2010 7:01:33pm |
re: #523 LudwigVanQuixote
How can you rectify gravity with quantum mechanics?
To which it responded:
Allow the obstacle to become the path. This is actually insanely brilliant in it’s way as a real physics answer
You will really enjoy this. God as corporate-engineer/CEO.
Enjoy.
| 536 |
Nimed Tue, May 4, 2010 7:01:35pm |
re: #518 Decatur Deb
She refused to ban cilantro.
reine.de.tout. can ban people? I guess that explains the grandiose name.
| 537 |
Decatur Deb Tue, May 4, 2010 7:03:33pm |
re: #536 Nimed
reine.de.tout. can ban people? I guess that explains the grandiose name.
The Cilantro mob is a tough bunch.
| 538 |
Nimed Tue, May 4, 2010 7:04:43pm |
| 539 |
Spare O'Lake Tue, May 4, 2010 7:05:40pm |
re: #536 Nimed
reine.de.tout. can ban people? I guess that explains the grandiose name.
One wave of her white-gloved hand and you’re gone, so watch it.
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researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 7:07:07pm |
re: #530 b_sharp
That’s not a conspiracy, that’s a job. It’s a condition of employment.
They read what is on the teleprompter.
I see. And what Hume, Wallace, Garret and Golar read is dictated by the bosses.
Seems to me everyone could save a boatload of money by hiring readers instead of reporters.
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Decatur Deb Tue, May 4, 2010 7:08:58pm |
re: #538 Nimed
Who are they?
A) They run the produce racket in Brookly’s neighborhood. or
B) A passionate group of haters or lovers of cilantro. (It does seem to be all or nothing with cooks.
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Nimed Tue, May 4, 2010 7:09:07pm |
re: #539 Spare O’Lake
One wave of her white-gloved hand and you’re gone, so watch it.
I’ll say she disguises very well her permanent intoxication with power.
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Stanley Sea Tue, May 4, 2010 7:10:12pm |
re: #540 researchok
I see. And what Hume, Wallace, Garret and Golar read is dictated by the bosses.
Seems to me everyone could save a boatload of money by hiring readers instead of reporters.
Did you catch the question Goler asked Gibbs?
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researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 7:11:48pm |
re: #545 Stanley Sea
Did you catch the question Goler asked Gibbs?
No, I missed it. What did he ask?
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Nimed Tue, May 4, 2010 7:13:19pm |
re: #541 iceweasel
The folks who think it tastes like soap.
They’ll cut a bitch.
The Portuguese put fistfuls into soups.
I can vouch for this. Brrrr…
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Stanley Sea Tue, May 4, 2010 7:13:23pm |
re: #547 researchok
No, I missed it. What did he ask?
Wendell Goler asked Gibbs in his daily briefing to respond to critics who say the oil leak is “President Obama’s Katrina?”
You’ve missed some posts. Gus posted a lot after mine.
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reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 7:15:43pm |
re: #509 austin_blue
Okay, you’ve got me drooling. Dish! What’s Roi’s best guess?
e-mail me at the addy in my profile.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, May 4, 2010 7:16:45pm |
re: #535 swamprat
You will really enjoy this. God as corporate-engineer/CEO.
Enjoy.
[Video]
Favorited!
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reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 7:16:55pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 7:17:23pm |
re: #547 researchok
No, I missed it. What did he ask?
Against that backdrop, the White House spokesman, Robert Gibbs, was loaded for bear at his Tuesday briefing for reporters when Fox’s White House correspondent, Wendell Goler, asked about critics calling the BP spill “President Obama’s Katrina.”
Goler deserved that backhand, and worse.
Not to be repeating myself or anything researcok, but this is precisely how Fox News works.
Opinion wacko floats a talking point thing that makes no sense to anyone with a brain, then a so-called “journalist” at Fox news (Goler, Wallace, etc) attempts to legitimize it by saying something like “Critics are saying this *insert insane talking point from Fox opinion guy*”
The anonymous “critics” are their own network. They regurgitate their own bullcrap, then launder it into so called journalism. Clever!
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reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 7:17:41pm |
re: #539 Spare O’Lake
One wave of her white-gloved hand and you’re gone, so watch it.
NO - no no no no no no no no no no no no no.
no.
no.
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reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 7:18:34pm |
re: #536 Nimed
reine.de.tout. can ban people? I guess that explains the grandiose name.
The grandiose name is to fool myself into thinking I have any control.
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Four More Tears Tue, May 4, 2010 7:19:03pm |
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prairiefire Tue, May 4, 2010 7:19:55pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 7:20:12pm |
re: #554 reine.de.tout
I gotta set up a Lulu account from my home machine, and then I’m totally getting that cookbook
IT BETTER HAVE DRINK RECIPES
(I’m getting it regardless)
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researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 7:20:56pm |
re: #549 Stanley Sea
Wendell Goler asked Gibbs in his daily briefing to respond to critics who say the oil leak is “President Obama’s Katrina?”
You’ve missed some posts. Gus posted a lot after mine.
Yes, I did hear about that. I thought you were referring to something else.
As to the premise, I don’t think the comparison is at all fair.
We knew Katrina was coming. The oil spill was an unforeseen disaster.
Katrina highlighted FEMA’s (gov’t) shortcomings. This disaster highlighted oil industry unpreparedness as a result of deregulation.
To be fair, Bush could not have called in the National Guard early. That was Blanco’s job and she called them in 8 hours before the storm hit. The real failure was on the part of FEMA. Still, they could have been on the ground when the storm hit and the damage would have been the same.
The failures were on the federal, state and local levels.
In the case of the Gulf spill, the primary responsibility falls on private industry. This is no Obama’s Katrina- not even close. The may have been a few missteps, but not even close.
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reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 7:21:21pm |
re: #558 WindUpBird
I gotta set up a Lulu account from my home machine, and then I’m totally getting that cookbook
IT BETTER HAVE DRINK RECIPES
(I’m getting it regardless)
It does.
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Stanley Sea Tue, May 4, 2010 7:21:21pm |
re: #553 WindUpBird
Goler deserved that backhand, and worse.
Not to be repeating myself or anything researcok, but this is precisely how Fox News works.
Opinion wacko floats a talking point thing that makes no sense to anyone with a brain, then a so-called “journalist” at Fox news (Goler, Wallace, etc) attempts to legitimize it by saying something like “Critics are saying this *insert insane talking point from Fox opinion guy*”
The anonymous “critics” are their own network. They regurgitate their own bullcrap, then launder it into so called journalism. Clever!
Exactly. Seen it happen again and again.
Researchok - I hope you see this.
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reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 7:21:37pm |
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reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 7:21:47pm |
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Stanley Sea Tue, May 4, 2010 7:22:19pm |
re: #558 WindUpBird
I gotta set up a Lulu account from my home machine, and then I’m totally getting that cookbook
IT BETTER HAVE DRINK RECIPES
(I’m getting it regardless)
It does. The artwork is fab
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prairiefire Tue, May 4, 2010 7:22:23pm |
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researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 7:22:29pm |
re: #553 WindUpBird
Goler deserved that backhand, and worse.
Not to be repeating myself or anything researcok, but this is precisely how Fox News works.
Opinion wacko floats a talking point thing that makes no sense to anyone with a brain, then a so-called “journalist” at Fox news (Goler, Wallace, etc) attempts to legitimize it by saying something like “Critics are saying this *insert insane talking point from Fox opinion guy*”
The anonymous “critics” are their own network. They regurgitate their own bullcrap, then launder it into so called journalism. Clever!
Why are you only citing FOX News? lots of organizations have referred to this as Obama’s Katrina even before FOX news did!
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Four More Tears Tue, May 4, 2010 7:23:47pm |
re: #565 prairiefire
Yes, I am a firm believer in this.
Be kinda hard for us to get along otherwise.
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reine.de.tout Tue, May 4, 2010 7:24:08pm |
re: #533 Floral Giraffe
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk…]
A new BP link for you. From the Brits perspective.
Interesting:
An army of lawyers has descended on the Gulf Coast, determined to cripple BP with lawsuits on behalf of property owners and fishermen whose livelihoods they say could be ruined. Robert Kennedy Jr, son of the former presidential candidate and a prominent environmental lawyer, is suing BP.Mr Hayward reiterated a promise that BP “will honour all legitimate claims for business interruption”. Asked for examples of illegitimate claims, he said: “I could give you lots of examples. This is America — come on. We’re going to have lots of illegitimate claims. We all know that.”
Well, they don’t have to be drilling here in America and having accidents that spoil our water, now do they?
And those fishermen - their lives, for at least this year, ARE ruined. They have a window of only a few months to make their year’s income. And it’s NOW.
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Stanley Sea Tue, May 4, 2010 7:24:43pm |
re: #566 researchok
Why are you only citing FOX News? lots of organizations have referred to this as Obama’s Katrina even before FOX news did!
DRUDGE?
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researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 7:26:38pm |
re: #561 Stanley Sea
Exactly. Seen it happen again and again.
Researchok - I hope you see this.
I understand you want to excoriate FOX News and I understand why.
But as I noted earlier, where is Gibbs when it comes to racist and bigot MSNBC touting bigot and racist Pat Buchanan?
I’m reminded of the Arabs and Palestinians- what is it about Israel that makes her in their view the most evil of all nations?
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Stanley Sea Tue, May 4, 2010 7:26:55pm |
re: #568 reine.de.tout
Well, they don’t have to be drilling here in America and having accidents that spoil our water, now do they?
And those fishermen - their lives, for at least this year, ARE ruined. They have a window of only a few months to make their year’s income. And it’s NOW.
This is it Reine. I’ve read so many stories about the fishermen in Alaska who’s livelihoods were ruined. For years.
What they got in the end as “restitution” was shameful. Beware is all I can say.
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researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 7:28:10pm |
re: #569 Stanley Sea
DRUDGE?
The Katrina analogy (as poor as it is) has been promulgated by some big MSM organizations.
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Stanley Sea Tue, May 4, 2010 7:30:05pm |
re: #572 researchok
You didn’t post the NYT or WaPo links, so I’m not going to look it up and analyze the time line etc.
I think we have agreed on certain thing in the past (?) So I’m going to leave it here. Bottom line, I don’t think your defense of Fox News in this matter holds water.
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researchok Tue, May 4, 2010 7:36:50pm |
re: #574 Stanley Sea
You didn’t post the NYT or WaPo links, so I’m not going to look it up and analyze the time line etc.
I think we have agreed on certain thing in the past (?) So I’m going to leave it here. Bottom line, I don’t think your defense of Fox News in this matter holds water.
We shall agree to disagree.
Shadow of Hurricane Katrina Hangs Over Obama After Spill
Is oil spill ‘Obama’s Katrina’?
Obama navigates tricky task surrounding Gulf Coast oil spill
Lots of this hyperbole everywhere.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, May 4, 2010 7:40:24pm |
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lostlakehiker Tue, May 4, 2010 8:22:47pm |
re: #327 LudwigVanQuixote
I will not link to American Thinker, but the venier, if there ever was one is off.
They wrote:
Now just to remind some people of some real parallels in actual history:
This point can not be over stated.When I talk about Nazism, I am not talking about American Nazis goose-stepping down our streets. We are not there yet. I am talking about the trends and memes that spread through Germany in the Twenties and thirties that led to Nazism.
Let me point out a few of them.
They griped a lot about a mythic past that never existed as an example of a shining birthright that was stolen from the average German.
They used a message that a corrupt and weak government was loyal to foreigners before Germany.
They argued that the real Germans couldn’t make it in Germany anymore because of those traitors within. Those traitors were at first, immigrants, homosexuals, intellectuals, union members and of course Jews. In America, the message is not pointed at Jews yet.
They saw communists everywhere. They spread fear that communists secretly controlled the government and would take over and destroy all German liberties.
They flirted with notions of pay back and violence and the meme that the oppressed, natural master would take back his “rightful place.”
They pitched all manner of outrageous conspiracy theories. Those communists and leftists and intellectuals and elites were violent and out to get them.
It all played upon the racial fears of Germans who felt they had no control over their lives. But after working that fear into a lather, they represented a “voice of resistance.” The individual German could now be seduced into thinking he too would be a Hero of his people and save his culture.
It was backed by well funded industrialists who spread a disproportionate voice to the movement through the media.
This message is pure evil. There are too few people who understand the history well enough to see where this leads.
I found the article. The author is not a nobody on the fringes. If anybody should understand history, it would be him. In the comments thread, the general opinion seems to be that there will never be elections this fall.
As with most end-of-the-world cults, I won’t hold my breath waiting for people to defect from this belief system when disconfirming evidence rolls in this November.
Still, the basic structure of American society is highly resistant to a coup from any quarter. We reject fascism and communism like a healthy person shrugs off a cold. De Toqueville had it right when he pegged the American affinity for social networking as the mainstay. We know too many people in the “enemy” camp, whatever camp we’re in, to believe the monolithic system of lies that must gain traction for fascism to prevail. No Hitler, no Franco, no Hugo Chavez, can get to square one with us. Just look at the electoral fates of Buchanan and David Duke. Whupped silly, in Louisiana Republican primaries. To invert the song New York New York, if they can’t make it there, they can’t make it anywhere.
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