US Anti-Abortion Group Trying to Sabotage Kenya’s Constitution

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Why are American fundamentalist Christian groups suddenly so active in Africa? Earlier we learned that leading evangelicals are behind the push to make homosexuality a capital crime in Uganda, and now we have a Pat Robertson front group spending large amounts of money to subvert Kenya’s proposed new constitution.

New York — An American-based group opposed to abortion has said it is donating “tens of thousands of dollars” to help defeat Kenya’s proposed constitution.

The American Centre for Law and Justice’s Jay Sekulow told the Sunday Nation that his Washington-based organisation is working through its office in Nairobi to tell Kenyans that the draft constitution would allow “abortion on demand”.

It is the first revelation of foreign funding given to church leaders in Kenya to campaign against the draft constitution.

The American Centre for Law and Justice is a non-governmental public interest law firm founded in 1990 by the controversial televangelist Pat Robertson well-known in Kenya for his programs on the Christian Broadcast Network.

Information available on the Internet indicates the centre has an annual budget of about $14 million (about Sh1 billion).

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1 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:36:41am

Roe vs Wade vs the World

2 darthstar  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:36:52am

What, there aren't enough uteri here in America for them to obsess about?

3 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:37:13am

///They're only working against they're own good! Just think if people in Kenya had been able to get abortion on demand years ago Barrack Obama wouldn't be bothering them now!

4 Stanghazi  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:39:09am

The new face of colonialism.

5 Varek Raith  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:39:41am

Thou Shalt Keep Thy Religion To Thyself
-Carlin

6 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:40:33am

These are the same group of bastards who would be screaming bloody murder if a foreign group was spending money on a law here in the US.

7 Olsonist  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:40:47am

re: #5 Varek Raith

Religion Is Bullshit

Youtube Video

- George Carlin

8 Obdicut  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:41:55am

re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

It's pretty rank paternalism. They can't win here in the US, so they think that they can use the enormous disparity in wealth to try to get what they want in Africa.

9 Varek Raith  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:42:06am

re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

These are the same group of bastards who would be screaming bloody murder if a foreign group was spending money on a law here in the US.

QFT.

10 wrenchwench  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:42:46am

This doesn't go far enough for them:

Although the Constitution guarantees the right to life, and the draft provides that life begins at conception, church leaders have vowed to fight it because of its provisions on abortion and kadhis' courts.

They object to the section of Article 26 that empowers doctors to end a pregnancy if it endangers a woman's life or she needs emergency treatment.

The section reads: "Abortion is not permitted unless, in the opinion of a trained health professional, there is need for emergency treatment, or the life or health of the mother is in danger, or if permitted by any other law."

...

The anti-abortion movement in the United States argues that the wording of the Kenyan draft constitution would in practice make abortion much more widely available in Kenya.

*facepalm*

11 Cato the Elder  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:43:15am

If they knew a future US president might be Kenyan, they might sing a different tune.

12 wrenchwench  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:43:33am

Sorry, that should have been, *retrieves jaw from floor*

13 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:43:43am

re: #11 Cato the Elder

If they knew a future US president might be Kenyan, they might sing a different tune.

GTMA.

14 lawhawk  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:43:51am

Well, what exactly does the draft constitution say?

According to a version from February 2010:

Right to life
26. (1) Every person has the right to life.
(2) The life of a person begins at conception.
(3) A person shall not be deprived of life intentionally, except to the extent
authorised by this Constitution or other written law.
(4) Abortion is not permitted unless, in the opinion of a trained health
professional, there is need for emergency treatment, or the life or health of
the mother is in danger, or if permitted by any other written law.

That isn't abortion on demand as written. That's abortion for medical purposes or if allowed by other Kenyan statutes. If anything, that would appear to codify whatever Kenya has already previously determined to be acceptable practice in their country. Wiki also notes that the some Christian groups in the country have mischaracterized the current draft constitution as permitting same sex marriage, although an early draft did contain that language - the current one does not.

15 Obdicut  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:44:09am

re: #10 wrenchwench

It's a pretty clear indication of what they really want in the US, as well.

16 wrenchwench  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:44:47am

re: #15 Obdicut

It's a pretty clear indication of what they really want in the US, as well.

Excellent point.

17 KingKenrod  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:45:51am

The article is a little jumbled, but it sounds like the draft constitution only allows abortion if the mother's life is in danger, and it also defines life as beginning at conception. It's weird the evangelicals are fighting this.

The article also mentions the church opposes a separate justice system for muslims, which is also in the constitution.

18 jaunte  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:46:18am

re: #2 darthstar

What, there aren't enough uteri here in America for them to obsess about?

Jeff Sharlet has a very good description of their global strategy of influencing small foreign nations governments in his book about The Family

19 Obdicut  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:46:43am

re: #17 KingKenrod

It's not weird at all that they're fighting it. It's what they want. Hell, it's refreshingly honest of them.

20 Jadespring  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:46:45am

I just generally find it creepy that anything to do with abortion is in a national constitution to begin with.

21 RogueOne  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:47:57am

re: #18 jaunte

Jeff Sharlet has a very good description of their global strategy of influencing small foreign nations governments in his book about The Family

A book pimped by Alex Jones with Sharlet even appearing on his show.

22 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:48:02am

re: #20 Jadespring

I just generally find it creepy that anything to do with abortion is in a national constitution to begin with.

Or if it is in a constitution it should be carefully hidden under a penumbra.
//

23 Jadespring  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:50:18am

Oh no. Thunderstorm

24 jaunte  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:51:41am

re: #21 RogueOne

I have seen links to the book here before. Is it considered inaccurate?

25 Jadespring  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:52:11am

BIAB. The world is going green outside. Have to batten down the hatches.

26 windsword  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:52:19am
The section reads: "Abortion is not permitted unless, in the opinion of a trained health professional, there is need for emergency treatment, or the life or health of the mother is in danger, or if permitted by any other law."


Agree or disagree with the actions of the pro-lifers, they're right in thinking the constitutional restriction isn't worded strong enough. The section essentially says abortion is banned, unless you pass a law allowing it. That's not much of a constitutional protection. That'd be like if the 13th Amendment said "Slavery if henceforth banned, unless you pass a law saying it isn't."

27 darthstar  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:52:50am

re: #24 jaunte

I have seen links to the book here before. Is it considered inaccurate?

Actually, Sharlet spent several months living with "the Family" and his book is quite accurate. And an excellent read.

28 Varek Raith  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:53:50am

re: #26 windsword

That may be. However, it's none of The American Centre for Law and Justice’s business to interfere in the affairs of other nations.

29 Obdicut  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:53:50am

re: #21 RogueOne

That's not smart of him.

30 KingKenrod  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:53:51am

Rep. David Obey may be retiring:

[Link: www.chron.com...]

Obey has served 21 terms.

31 jaunte  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:54:08am

re: #27 darthstar

I'm about halfway through it. I didn't know Alex Jones was promoting it, but i suppose he has air time to fill.

32 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:54:27am

re: #7 Olsonist

Religion Is Bullshit


[Video]- George Carlin

There's a sucker born again every minute.

33 Stanghazi  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:56:31am

re: #24 jaunte

I have seen links to the book here before. Is it considered inaccurate?

I missed the Alex Jones connection if there is one. All I've seen is the Rachel Maddow investigations. It's considered accurate.

34 Stanghazi  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:57:38am

re: #26 windsword

Agree or disagree with the actions of the pro-lifers, they're right in thinking the constitutional restriction isn't worded strong enough. The section essentially says abortion is banned, unless you pass a law allowing it. That's not much of a constitutional protection. That'd be like if the 13th Amendment said "Slavery if henceforth banned, unless you pass a law saying it isn't."

Why should they care about another country's constitution? That's the issue, you know.

35 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:58:03am

re: #30 KingKenrod

Rep. David Obey may be retiring:

[Link: www.chron.com...]

Obey has served 21 terms.

On the one heand, he IS 71 years old, but on the other, this would be ther 1st time he's faced a serious challenger for the seat in two decades

36 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:58:15am

re: #7 Olsonist

Religion Is Bullshit

[Video]

- George Carlin

Organized Religion is bullshit.

37 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:58:35am

re: #30 KingKenrod

re: #35 sattv4u2

On the one heand HAND , he IS 71 years old, but on the other, this would be ther 1st time he's faced a serious challenger for the seat in two decades

damn new thumbs

38 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:59:09am

Latest Big Lie from the wingnut Father of Lies:

Limbaugh: Faisal Shahzad Arrest Was "Dumb Luck"

39 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:00:40am

re: #38 Shiplord Kirel

Latest Big Lie from the wingnut Father of Lies:

Limbaugh: Faisal Shahzad Arrest Was "Dumb Luck"


Well then that was quite a bit of luck wasn't it?

An astounding amount of luck...

Wait a moment....

Obama is actually part Irish isn't he.....

Oh my god Obama is secretly a Leprechaun!

40 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:01:07am

re: #38 Shiplord Kirel

Latest Big Lie from the wingnut Father of Lies:

Limbaugh: Faisal Shahzad Arrest Was "Dumb Luck"

Just going by the headline, it may not have been "dumb", but there was a bit of luck involved seeing that the plane had already been boarded, doors closed and had moved away from the terminal.

41 Obdicut  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:01:13am

re: #38 Shiplord Kirel

Why the hell does he want to smear US law enforcement like that? Shit, give them some credit.

42 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:01:38am

Well, my work PC is down hard for the next hour or so. Time to slack.

43 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:02:33am

re: #15 Obdicut

It's a pretty clear indication of what they really want in the US, as well.

Of course it is. Here's a reproductive rights roundup for this week:

April 30: Abortion’s New Battle Lines

While we’ve been distracted by Tea Party antics, the government’s efforts to sack Goldman Sachs and the tawdry drama of John Edwards and his baby’s mama, a rash of states has rushed to restrict access to abortion.

Two weeks ago, the governor of Nebraska signed a law that banned most abortions after 20 weeks on the theory that that’s when the fetus can feel pain. But as Caitlin Borgmann, a City University of New York law professor, wrote in The Los Angeles Times, “There is nothing approaching a scientific consensus on fetal pain at 20 weeks’ gestation.”

On Wednesday, Mississippi’s Legislature sent a bill to the governor that forbids public financing of abortions. The prohibition stands even in cases of severe birth defects.

Tuesday, the Oklahoma Legislature overrode a gubernatorial veto to pass two abortion laws. One requires women, even those seeking to end a pregnancy resulting from rape or incest, to have an ultrasound and have the fetus described to them. The other prevents mothers from suing doctors who withhold information about fetal birth defects.

And on Friday, the Florida Legislature passed a bill also requiring all women seeking an abortion to undergo an ultrasound. Even if the women don’t want to see the image, the doctor must still describe it to them.

It is a striking series of laws, enacted mostly by men, that seek legal control over women’s bodies.

Since then OK is suspending their ultrasound law for 45 days. BTW, that's only to give the supporters of the law more time to prepare their arguments against the legal challenges mounted against it.

44 Renaissance_Man  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:02:45am

re: #41 Obdicut

Why the hell does he want to smear US law enforcement like that? Shit, give them some credit.

Because the sun never shines during a Democratic Regime.

45 RogueOne  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:02:58am

re: #27 darthstar

Actually, Sharlet spent several months living with "the Family" and his book is quite accurate. And an excellent read.


So conspiracy theories pimped by alex jones are ok? how are we supposed to differentiate between the good kind and the bad ones? This time he was parroting rachel maddow, is she the deciding factor? Sharlet also said that the family has believed in the NWO since 1945, should we be concerned about that conspiracy now too? He linked them to central american death squads in the 80's, hitler, edward the 8th, moonies, billy graham, and the "hitler jesus".

46 darthstar  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:03:01am

re: #38 Shiplord Kirel

Latest Big Lie from the wingnut Father of Lies:

Limbaugh: Faisal Shahzad Arrest Was "Dumb Luck"

Faisal Shahzad was added to the no-fly list as soon as his name was known. Emirates hadn't updated their no-fly list which is why he was allowed on the plane. The FBI, however, was tracking all flight manifests and found him - that's called doing their job and doing it well. Had Emirates had their list updated, they could have notified the FBI and he wouldn't have gotten as close to taking off as he did.

It wasn't Dumb luck. It was 53 hours of non-stop work on the part of our police and FBI...they should be applauded.

47 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:03:26am

re: #41 Obdicut

Why the hell does he want to smear US law enforcement like that? Shit, give them some credit.

I'm going to go with "He's a petty shithead who doesn't really give a damn about anything but his ratings" for $300.

48 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:03:40am

re: #24 jaunte

I have seen links to the book here before. Is it considered inaccurate?

Charles (and others) have recommended it more than once.

49 darthstar  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:03:43am

re: #45 RogueOne

Sharlet != Jones.

50 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:03:51am

re: #40 sattv4u2

Just going by the headline, it may not have been "dumb", but there was a bit of luck involved seeing that the plane had already been boarded, doors closed and had moved away from the terminal.

Dude you missed Charles proving that isn't true, the guy never got on the plane...

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

51 RogueOne  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:04:03am

re: #33 Stanley Sea

I missed the Alex Jones connection if there is one. All I've seen is the Rachel Maddow investigations. It's considered accurate.

He did a 40 minute interview full of what I would consider crazy talk.

52 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:04:22am

re: #39 jamesfirecat

Well then that was quite a bit of luck wasn't it?

An astounding amount of luck...

Wait a moment...

Obama is actually part Irish isn't he...

Oh my god Obama is secretly a Leprechaun!

Yep, Rush and ditto-heads, it was just dumb luck that law enforcement employs people who know how to trace VINs and trace cell phone calls.

Something people haven't thought about: If, Cthulhu forbid, the bomb had gone off as planned, the investigation would STILL have proceeded to the same conclusion. (Tim McVeigh's bomb truck was traced by a serial number stamped on an axle housing.)

53 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:05:21am

Total chaos erupted in Greece today, 3 dead.

Greece crisis: three bank workers killed in street protests


Greek unions mobilised crowds of 25,000 angry people to march against the government in protests at the 'austerity measures' introduced to try to tackle the country's debt.

Protesters threw petrol bombs, and tried to gain entry to the parliament building, eventually setting fire to the bank building with 25 staff inside, killing two women and a man.

Witnesses said the fire spread rapidly and clashes between riot police hampered fire brigade access to the building. "We took 15 minutes to get to the site because it was very difficult to get there," said Panayiotis Falaras, a spokesman for the fire brigade.

George Papandreou, the Greek prime minister, lashed out at the perpetrators of the attack and said they had hijacked a democratic protest.

He said: "We're a free and democratic country and every citizen has the right to demonstrate. To protest is one thing, to murder is another.

"The perpetrators of the violence will be arrested and judged."

There is a picture of a man on fire with this description: " A riot police officer is engulfed in flames from a fire bomb thrown by protesters in Athens... Photo: AP"

This is affecting the stock market.

Wall St down for 2nd day as Greece woes linger


NEW YORK: US stocks fell for a second day on Wednesday as Greece's sovereign debt crisis spread and Moody's Investors Service warned Portugal could be next to have its debt downgraded.
54 Cato the Elder  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:05:50am

re: #38 Shiplord Kirel

Latest Big Lie from the wingnut Father of Lies:

Limbaugh: Faisal Shahzad Arrest Was "Dumb Luck"

"Dumb luck" would be me tuning in to Rush five minutes before he has an on-air heart attack.

55 darthstar  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:06:45am

re: #40 sattv4u2

Just going by the headline, it may not have been "dumb", but there was a bit of luck involved seeing that the plane had already been boarded, doors closed and had moved away from the terminal.

See my #46

56 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:07:04am

re: #51 RogueOne

He did a 40 minute interview full of what I would consider crazy talk.

Yeah, there's no spinning that. Sharlet needs a new publicist, stat!

57 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:07:44am

re: #50 jamesfirecat

Dude you missed Charles proving that isn't true, the guy never got on the plane...

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I'll take Charles's word for it, but I haven't seen nor heard any news source say anything other than he was on the plane and the plane had already left the gate. Latest on Google is 36 minutes ago

But Emirates apparently failed to check the latest version of the terror watch list, because at about 6:30 p.m. that evening, he called the airline and booked a ticket to Pakistan via Dubai.

Only hours later - around 11 p.m., after Shahzad was on the plane, with its doors sealed - did Customs and Border Protection officials spot his name on the list.

Read more: [Link: www.nydailynews.com...]

58 RogueOne  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:07:56am

re: #50 jamesfirecat

Dude you missed Charles proving that isn't true, the guy never got on the plane...

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]


He was in custody after being hauled off a Dubai-bound plane he boarded Monday night at John F. Kennedy International Airport despite being under surveillance and placed on the federal no-fly list.

Passengers disembarking from the flight many hours later described a calm scene as he was removed from the plane. They said he didn't put up a struggle.

What I found slightly amusing is they were going to go ahead and let the plane take off anyway before someone thought it might be a good idea to check the plane since they just removed a terrorist.

59 Cato the Elder  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:08:15am

People are rioting and dying in Greece. Somehow I am not concerned with how it affects the motherfrakkin' stock market.

60 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:09:08am

re: #55 darthstar

See my #46

I agree, But if the Emirates had waited one more hour and thew plane had taken off! Thats my point. I'm not saying law enforcement wasn't working at it tooth and nail 24/7

61 SteveMcG  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:09:43am

If their Constitution states that life begins at conception, do you have to get a conception certificate to prove you were conceived in Kenya?

62 Lidane  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:10:09am

re: #2 darthstar

What, there aren't enough uteri here in America for them to obsess about?

Seriously. You'd think they'd get their uterine fixation here in the States.

63 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:10:10am

re: #57 sattv4u2

I'll take Charles's word for it, but I haven't seen nor heard any news source say anything other than he was on the plane and the plane had already left the gate. Latest on Google is 36 minutes ago

But Emirates apparently failed to check the latest version of the terror watch list, because at about 6:30 p.m. that evening, he called the airline and booked a ticket to Pakistan via Dubai.

Only hours later - around 11 p.m., after Shahzad was on the plane, with its doors sealed - did Customs and Border Protection officials spot his name on the list.

Read more: [Link: www.nydailynews.com...]

Charles wasn't kind enough to list his sources in that particular post.

If the Lizard Overlord is listening perhaps he would be kind enough to sort this all out for us....

64 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:11:29am

re: #63 jamesfirecat

Charles wasn't kind enough to list his sources in that particular post.

If the Lizard Overlord is listening perhaps he would be kind enough to sort this all out for us...

See Rogues #58

Passengers on the plane that were interviewed seem to indicate he was taken OFF the plane with no struggle

65 Renaissance_Man  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:12:01am

Wow, Redstate has gone off the rails. They're salivating over there at the prospect of righteous violence when the 'left' comes after them with liberal terrorist death squads after they win back power in 2010/12. I wish I was exaggerating.

66 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:12:14am

re: #50 jamesfirecat

Dude you missed Charles proving that isn't true, the guy never got on the plane...

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

He was on the plane and it did taxi out to the runway. This morning on the news they played audio of the tower calling the plane back to the terminal.

67 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:12:42am

What I want to know is in a time when we can remotely control, restart and repair a robot on Mars, why can't we require technology that:
1. shuts off a valve 1 mile under the ocean
2. have real time updates to the terrorist watch list
3. makes a publicist do their homework

Hey, I'm just asking questions!

68 lawhawk  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:14:21am

re: #38 Shiplord Kirel

Oh, there was luck involved in the captured, but not the way Rush wants people to believe.

We were lucky that Shahzad: 1) doesn't know how to build a bomb that actually detonated (which would have made the effort to gather evidence more difficult); 2) didn't know that VIN numbers are located all over the vehicle, not just in the window well; 3) didn't know that his cellphone and email were being tracked back to the source; 4) didn't know that the feds were able to add him to a no-fly list; etc.

Law enforcement caught several breaks, but there was also luck that was made, because they were able to tie together various strings of evidence to link back to Shahzad and did so in short order.

However, everything I've seen shows that despite being put on the no-fly list, the airline didn't check that list until after he was boarded, but even though that event occurred, the plane wasn't going anywhere because a final check found he had been on the list and was removed. The plane was cleared to disembark but after conversations with Shahzad, the plane was called back to gate to have two other people questioned and bags rescreened.

69 Lidane  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:14:36am

re: #65 Renaissance_Man

Wow, Redstate has gone off the rails. They're salivating over there at the prospect of righteous violence when the 'left' comes after them with liberal terrorist death squads after they win back power in 2010/12. I wish I was exaggerating.

They've been off the rails since November 2008, if not longer. None of that is a surprise.

70 lostlakehiker  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:15:55am

How can someone subvert a constitution until it's been written? The subversion isn't so much a subversion of the constitution as it is of Kenyan independence. What business is it of Pat Robertson to say anything one way or another about a proposed constitution for Kenya?

The whole thing is moot. Kenya is a failed state. The capital city goes by the nickname Nairobbery. Neighboring Tanzania has had to close the northern entrance to its Kilimanjaro National Park because of raids from Kenya. Whatever constitution is adapted, the law on the ground will be whatever the man at the checkpoint says it is. Mostly that will mean that a payment is required.

71 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:16:26am

Pakistan Taliban praises Faisal Shahzad Time Sq. bomb try; says no link, but more like him coming

A Taliban spokesman in Pakistan insisted Wednesday that his group was not involved in the failed car-bombing terror attack in crowded Times Square this past weekend.

Azam Tariq, speaking to CNN, praised the efforts of arrested suspect Faisal Shahzad - who told authorities he received five months of explosives training in Pakistan.

"Very good," said Tariq. But he said that training did not come from his organization, and they had no link whatsoever to the bombing suspect.

The Taliban has dispatched "fighters" to the U.S., Tariq said, and their plans will soon become evident.

"Right now, America is the biggest enemy of Islam," Tariq told CNN. "We have sent out mujahedeen to America and you will soon see the results."

72 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:16:38am

re: #65 Renaissance_Man

Wow, Redstate has gone off the rails. They're salivating over there at the prospect of righteous violence when the 'left' comes after them with liberal terrorist death squads after they win back power in 2010/12. I wish I was exaggerating.

Redstate's worst nightmare. What if we throw an Armageddon and nobody comes?

73 lawhawk  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:17:33am

re: #71 NJDhockeyfan

Hey Tariq:

"Right now, America isIslamic Terrorists are the biggest enemy of Islam," Tariq told CNN. "We have sent out mujahedeen to America and you will soon see the results."
74 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:18:11am

re: #68 lawhawk

Oh, there was luck involved in the captured, but not the way Rush wants people to believe.

We were lucky that Shahzad: 1) doesn't know how to build a bomb that actually detonated (which would have made the effort to gather evidence more difficult); 2) didn't know that VIN numbers are located all over the vehicle, not just in the window well; 3) didn't know that his cellphone and email were being tracked back to the source; 4) didn't know that the feds were able to add him to a no-fly list; etc.

5. didn't have enough sense to book his flight prior to the attempt and go to the airport immediately following the attempt (or even 24 hours after).

75 lawhawk  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:18:25am

re: #70 lostlakehiker

They're trying to subvert the process of writing the constitution by affecting the outcome and it is worrisome.

76 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:19:09am

re: #74 Jeff In Ohio

5. didn't have enough sense to book his flight prior to the attempt and go to the airport immediately following the attempt (or even 24 hours after).

6) paid IN CASH for a ONE WAY ticket

77 Political Atheist  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:19:10am

re: #67 Jeff In Ohio

OT
but how is the pinhole cam doing?

78 windsword  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:19:17am

re: #34 Stanley Sea

Why should they care about another country's constitution? That's the issue, you know.


I disagree with the idea that they shouldn't be interested in Kenya's constitution. Rather, if they were unconcerned with Kenya's constitution, I'd call most pro-life advocates hypocrites.

Abortion isn't an issue like taxes, drugs, or any of the other bullshit we usually force on other nations. From a pro-life perspective, it's literally a matter of life or death. Any pro-life activist who believes that what happens in Kenya isn't any of his concern is betraying his principles. He's essentially saying that a Kenyan life is less than an American life.

Many, if not most of you, disagree with the pro-life advocate. Judging by the way Charles throws around the term 'anti-choice', he probably doubts that's even their true motivation. But from the pro-life point of view, its perfectly consistent. If the pro-abortion crowd was trying to influence the constitution, which they are BTW, I wouldn't say they're wrong either.

79 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:19:49am

re: #67 Jeff In Ohio

What I want to know is in a time when we can remotely control, restart and repair a robot on Mars, why can't we require technology that:

2. have real time updates to the terrorist watch list

Hey, I'm just asking questions!

That's really making me angry. From what I've read the airlines get an alert as soon as there is an update to the nofly list, but they need to check a site to see what the update is--who has been added. Previously they had a 24 hour window in which to check. Apparently the 'solution' proposed now is that they only have a two hour window.

This is just unacceptable to me. I realise that there are multiple threats all the time in different ways and finite time and resources, but really, isn't this something that HAS to have priority? With technology today, why isn't this virtually instantaneous? --addition to the nofly list and immediate knowledge for every airline about who is on it?

Additionally, given that they knew at this point who they were looking for, couldn't they have made an educated guess about where he'd most likely be flying to and prioritise certain destinations and airlines in the notification process, if necessary? He wasn't likely to be buying a ticket to go to DisneyWorld, after all.

80 RogueOne  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:20:15am

1 down, 2 to go...

BP Caps 1 Of 3 Leaks, But Oil Flow Won't Be Reduced
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]


The Coast Guard says BP PLC has managed to cap one of three leaks at a deepwater oil well, but the work is not expected to reduce the overall flow of oil into the Gulf of Mexico.

Coast Guard Petty Officer 1st Class David Mosley says the work Tuesday night should reduce the number of leak points that need to be fixed on the ocean floor. BP officials have said that fewer leaks will make it easier to drop a containment box on the breach.

81 lostlakehiker  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:20:23am
Greek unions mobilised crowds of 25,000 angry people to march against the government in protests at the 'austerity measures' introduced to try to tackle the country's debt.

Protesters threw petrol bombs, and tried to gain entry to the parliament building, eventually setting fire to the bank building with 25 staff inside, killing two women and a man.

Unions.

How can anyone even think of adding to their power with a "card check" law? Who would dare to not check the card, knowing what sort of activism unions have at their disposal?

82 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:20:26am

re: #77 Rightwingconspirator

OT
but how is the pinhole cam doing?

Good, should start some printing June 1. Hopefully I'll have something to show you....need a scanner.

83 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:22:14am

Suddenly so active? The evangelicals have been active in Africa since the 80's. There was even a Nat'l Geographic special on the rise of so-called prosperity gospel churches and "mega-churches" popping up over there, why? The people are dirt poor and willing to believe just about anything while donating to these churches so they can grow. The likes of Swaggert and the rest (aka send me your money and you will be saved and become rich) are alive and well over there.

84 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:22:17am

re: #79 iceweasel

gmta ,, from earlier today

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

85 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:22:49am

re: #79 iceweasel

The whole thing seems so...1970's. "We have a call on the red phone telling us to check our list. Hold boarding, we need to run the punch card through the main frame."

86 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:22:53am

In a serious case of Get the fuck over it;

STRONG BREW

The term "tea-bagger" is like uttering the "n" word, some say. Though he aspires to promote civility, evidence has surfaced that President Obama has added "tea-bagger" to his public lexicon, though it's considered a cheap and tawdry insult by "tea party" activists. Watchdogs at Americans for Tax Reform (ATR) barked when they saw the proof, tucked in a sneak peak of Newsweek columnist Jonathan Alter's new book, "The Promise: President Obama, Year One," to be released May 18. Indeed, it appears the president joined certain partisan critics and the liberal media, and took the tea-bag plunge.

"This remark is the equivalent of using the 'n' word. It shows contempt for middle America, expressed knowingly, contemptuously, on purpose, and with a smirk. It is indefensible to use this word. The president knows what it means, and his people know what it means. The public thought we reached a new low of incivility during the Clinton administration. Well, the Obama administration has just outdone them," ATR president Grover Norquist tells Inside the Beltway.

Have a nice frosty mug of shut the fuck up and get over it.

87 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:23:15am

re: #81 lostlakehiker

Unions.

How can anyone even think of adding to their power with a "card check" law? Who would dare to not check the card, knowing what sort of activism unions have at their disposal?

This is "Skinny Legs" Jimmy Tuscadero and I'm "Knuckles" we're hear to find out if you're interested in joining the union...

88 Cato the Elder  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:24:34am

re: #79 iceweasel

Additionally, given that they knew at this point who they were looking for, couldn't they have made an educated guess about where he'd most likely be flying to and prioritise certain destinations and airlines in the notification process, if necessary? He wasn't likely to be buying a ticket to go to DisneyWorld, after all.

Well, if he'd had the mediocre tradecraft required for the most bumbling of terrorists in a bad airport thriller, he would have booked a flight to Sydney via L.A. and then gone to ground in Kuala Lumpur. But maybe the Taliban are having to rein in their travel budget these days...

89 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:24:46am

re: #86 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The correct PC name is Testicles Resting On Chin Party.

Hmm, that's soft!

90 RogueOne  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:25:12am

Bloomberg: "Some asshat tried to blow up his SUV with propane and firecrackers in times square so obviously it's time we worry about gun control!"


[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]


It's amazing but true: we can prevent terror suspects from boarding an airplane, but the FBI doesn't have the power to block them from buying dynamite or an AK-47.

91 Obdicut  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:25:46am

re: #78 windsword

Judging by the way Charles throws around the term 'anti-choice', he probably doubts that's even their true motivation. But from the pro-life point of view, its perfectly consistent. If the pro-abortion crowd was trying to influence the constitution, which they are BTW, I wouldn't say they're wrong either.

Why on earth would you use that term after having said Charles 'throws around' the term anti-choice?

I do agree with you that they're being perfectly honest. It doesn't actually make logical sense, if you believe that a two day old zygote is a full person, to exempt women who have been raped from carrying the child to term. They are definitely being consistent in that regard here, and it should inform our views of what they would like to achieve in the US.

92 webevintage  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:27:34am

re: #38 Shiplord Kirel

Latest Big Lie from the wingnut Father of Lies:

Limbaugh: Faisal Shahzad Arrest Was "Dumb Luck"

What a fucking asshole.
What an offensive asshole.
What an un-American offensive asshole.

By saying that he is smearing the folks in the NYPD and the justice department who were able to get this guy in less the 60 hours. How dare he?
I wish he would move to Costa Rica already....

(of course the fact that Shahzad seems to be a bit of a moron helped)

93 Spider Mensch  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:28:38am

re: #83 Dreggas

Suddenly so active? The evangelicals have been active in Africa since the 80's. There was even a Nat'l Geographic special on the rise of so-called prosperity gospel churches and "mega-churches" popping up over there, why? The people are dirt poor and willing to believe just about anything while donating to these churches so they can grow. The likes of Swaggert and the rest (aka send me your money and you will be saved and become rich) are alive and well over there.

for some reason your post made me think of the movie "The African Queen" with Bogey and Hepburn, wasn't Hepburns character (Rose) and her brother Christian fundementalists also? and that was set during WW 1. If that story has any historic basis the christian fundies been down there quite awhile.

94 lawhawk  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:28:48am

re: #88 Cato the Elder

Yet some of the reports I was reading said that he was doing an all-cash business since he returned from Pakistan (and had no job here in the US upon his return). You can be sure that they're looking into where and how he got the money to bankroll this.

95 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:29:25am

re: #89 Jeff In Ohio

The correct PC name is Testicles Resting On Chin Party.

Hmm, that's soft!

The whole ""tea-bagger" is like uttering the "n" word" crap is just a load of complete horseshit. Its what they decided to go with instead of saying "QUIT MAKING FUN OF ME" and stomping away and slamming the door as they have a hissy fit.

96 Cato the Elder  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:30:31am

re: #94 lawhawk

Yet some of the reports I was reading said that he was doing an all-cash business since he returned from Pakistan (and had no job here in the US upon his return). You can be sure that they're looking into where and how he got the money to bankroll this.

I'm pretty sure they'll start by paying individual visits to all his 115 friends on Facebook.

Social networking!

97 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:31:00am

re: #95 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The whole ""tea-bagger" is like uttering the "n" word" crap is just a load of complete horseshit. Its what they decided to go with instead of saying "QUIT MAKING FUN OF ME" and stomping away and slamming the door as they have a hissy fit.

Teabagger will be the equivalent of the "n" word after these people have been forced to labor for a few centuries without getting paid.

If they want to step up and submit themselves and their children and their grand children to a life of hopeless poverty I would actually admire their courage.

98 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:31:20am

re: #96 Cato the Elder

I'm pretty sure they'll start by paying individual visits to all his 115 friends on Facebook.

Social networking!

And start checking on his crops in Farmville.

99 lostlakehiker  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:31:49am

re: #43 iceweasel

Since then OK is suspending their ultrasound law for 45 days. BTW, that's only to give the supporters of the law more time to prepare their arguments against the legal challenges mounted against it.

Fetuses do flinch when pricked, startle at loud noises, and so on, once they reach a certain stage. Preemies likewise. There is little scientific room for doubt that fetuses in the age range matching preemies that exhibit sensitivity to pain also have the nerve connections and brain wiring to react to injuries in the same way that preemies do.

Laws banning abortion are in general a bad idea, but another bad idea is making believe the science is other than it is, because some part of that science, if accepted, might make a useful talking point for the other side.

100 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:31:54am

re: #96 Cato the Elder

I'm pretty sure they'll start by paying individual visits to all his 115 friends on Facebook.

Social networking!

Any of them named Sean O'Malley?? Sven Ingram? Guiseppi Rizzo???

101 Cato the Elder  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:32:06am

re: #92 webevintage

Costa Rica has let it be known through backchannels that Rush is not welcome there.

102 windsword  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:32:28am

re: #91 Obdicut
The Associated Press and Reuters use the terms "pro-abortion" and "anti-abortion". They think they're pretty neutral, and I agree. Those are the terms I've generally use. I also use the term pro-life though, because I think that refers to a more coherent belief system than just covering one issue, i.e. stem-cell, death penalty.

103 lawhawk  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:32:54am

re: #98 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Woe is to them who had him as part of their mafia in Mafia Wars...

104 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:33:29am

re: #94 lawhawk

Yet some of the reports I was reading said that he was doing an all-cash business since he returned from Pakistan (and had no job here in the US upon his return). You can be sure that they're looking into where and how he got the money to bankroll this.

He's been on the Fed's radar since 2004. I wonder why they didn't know about his car bomb attempt.

George LaMonica, a 35-year-old computer consultant, said he bought his two-bedroom condominium in Norwalk, Conn., from Mr. Shahzad for $261,000 in May 2004. A few weeks after he moved in, Mr. LaMonica said, investigators from the national Joint Terrorism Task Force interviewed him, asking for details of the transaction and for information about Mr. Shahzad. It struck Mr. LaMonica as unusual, but he said detectives told him they were simply “checking everything out.”

105 Varek Raith  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:33:49am

re: #71 NJDhockeyfan

Pakistan Taliban praises Faisal Shahzad Time Sq. bomb try; says no link, but more like him coming

I call the orbital mass driver!

106 Jadespring  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:33:50am

re: #101 Cato the Elder

Costa Rica has let it be known through backchannels that Rush is not welcome there.

I hope they'd be okay with it if I moved there.

107 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:34:03am

how in the living fuck are these people funded

108 Varek Raith  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:34:44am

re: #105 Varek Raith

I call the orbital mass driver!

Lol, I failed.

That was meant for;
re: #72 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Redstate's worst nightmare. What if we throw an Armageddon and nobody comes?

109 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:34:56am

re: #104 NJDhockeyfan

He's been on the Fed's radar since 2004. I wonder why they didn't know about his car bomb attempt

How would they? He doesn't appear to be part of a US based cell. he didn;'t go out and purchase large quantities of suspicious substances and/ or materials.

110 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:35:01am

re: #107 SpaceJesus

how in the living fuck are these people funded

The traditional 10% tithing to the Church

111 lawhawk  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:35:18am

re: #93 Spider Mensch

Proselytization has been part and parcel of the African experience since the Europeans started dividing up the continent in the colonial era.

112 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:35:52am

re: #108 Varek Raith

You're cool, works either way.

I call Virus Bombs.

113 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:36:10am

re: #101 Cato the Elder

re: #106 Jadespring

I hope they'd be okay with it if I moved there.

Don't kid yourself. The Costa Ricans would welcome him with open arms, as long as he brought is cash/ American Express Cards/ bank accounts with him!

114 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:36:37am

re: #109 sattv4u2

He's been on the Fed's radar since 2004. I wonder why they didn't know about his car bomb attempt

How would they? He doesn't appear to be part of a US based cell. he didn;'t go out and purchase large quantities of suspicious substances and/ or materials.

True but didn't he make some phone calls to Pakistan recently? We are still listening to them aren't we?

115 darthstar  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:36:41am

re: #71 NJDhockeyfan

Pakistan Taliban praises Faisal Shahzad Time Sq. bomb try; says no link, but more like him coming

Translation: Please don't send predator drones...it was a good try, yes? But we didn't do it...no drones, please.

116 Varek Raith  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:36:47am

re: #113 sattv4u2

re: #106 Jadespring

Don't kid yourself. The Costa Ricans would welcome him with open arms, as long as he brought is cash/ American Express Cards/ bank accounts with him!

No Visa?
:(

117 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:37:31am

re: #114 NJDhockeyfan

True but didn't he make some phone calls to Pakistan recently? We are still listening to them aren't we?

Doesn't mean he said 'Hey, mom,, I'll be there in a few days after I detonate this car bomb in Times Square"

118 Jadespring  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:37:48am

re: #113 sattv4u2

re: #106 Jadespring

Don't kid yourself. The Costa Ricans would welcome him with open arms, as long as he brought is cash/ American Express Cards/ bank accounts with him!

Well then I'll just have to make sure we're not neighbors. :)

119 darthstar  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:37:56am

re: #98 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And start checking on his crops in Farmville.

I'll play Farmville when they let me grow dope.
/

120 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:38:02am

re: #116 Varek Raith

No Visa?
:(

he has one,, he's traveled out of the country before !!

//

121 Obdicut  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:38:16am

re: #102 windsword

That is not an actual explanation. I don't really care what the AP and Reuters do; how can you justify saying Charles throws around the phrase anti-choice, and then you, yourself, use the phrase 'pro-abortion'?

It seems very disingenuous.

Furthermore, aside from Catholics, the majority of people who are 'pro-life' are not, in fact, against the death penalty. Do you think that these evangelists are against the death penalty?

Finally, there appears to be very little action against or rhetoric against fertility clinics from anti-choice types, despite the fact that fertility clinics also destroy embryos, so I can't, in the end, even grant them the virtue of consistency.

122 Cato the Elder  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:38:17am

re: #98 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And start checking on his crops in Farmville.

I hear that the hashish shortage in Egypt is because too many growers are spending too much time playing Farmville and the crops are rotting in the fields...

123 windsword  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:39:22am

re: #119 darthstar

I'll play Farmville when they let me grow dope.
/


I'll start playing Farmville when the US government pays me not to grow anything.
/

124 Varek Raith  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:39:34am

re: #122 Cato the Elder

I hear that the hashish shortage in Egypt is because too many growers are spending too much time playing Farmville and the crops are rotting in the fields...

Heh, my mom loves that game.

125 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:40:00am

re: #93 Spider Mensch

for some reason your post made me think of the movie "The African Queen" with Bogey and Hepburn, wasn't Hepburns character (Rose) and her brother Christian fundementalists also? and that was set during WW 1. If that story has any historic basis the christian fundies been down there quite awhile.

Yes, in some cases, Christian missionaries (not all fundamentalists) preceded purely secular explorers by quite a bit. David Livingstone, for example, was a Congregationalist missionary.
Speaking of The African Queen, I highly recommend CS Forester's original novel. In this, Rose and Allnut are quite a bit younger than in the movie and Rose, at 33, is something of a repressed hottie. The sexual relationship that develops was naturally left out of the movie script.

126 Jadespring  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:40:46am

re: #124 Varek Raith

Heh, my mom loves that game.

So does mine. She's obsessed with it.

Bright side is that she no longer can say anything about the amount of time I or anyone else spends playing a computer game.

127 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:41:00am

re: #121 Obdicut

Furthermore, aside from Catholics, the majority of people who are 'pro-life' are not, in fact, against the death penalty

I'm a Catholic and I don't oppose the death penalty (within reason,, for certain crimes, and only in cases where this is absolutely no doubt,,, Tim McVeigh ,, Jeffery Dahlmer,,, etc)

and BTW ,,, I am also not anti- abortion,,, but again, in certain cases

128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:41:27am

re: #124 Varek Raith

Heh, my mom loves that game.

TELL HER TO STOP ASKING ME FOR NAILS FOR HER FUCKING BARN!

129 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:41:49am

New Image of Faisal Shahzad in Times Square

A photo obtained exclusively by CBS News shows the would-be Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzad with friends in Times Square, less than 100 yards from the spot where he abandoned an explosives-laden SUV Saturday.

The photo shows Faisal Shahzhad standing on the far right with his wife, Huma Mian, and several other unidentified people. Sources tell CBS News the photo is believed to have been taken a year and a half to two years ago.

To date, most images of Shahzad have come from the Orkut.com social site, where his wife had a profile.

130 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:42:12am

re: #128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

TELL HER TO STOP ASKING ME FOR NAILS FOR HER FUCKING BARN!


Wouldn't a nice hotel room be more comfy for that !?!?!

131 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:43:02am

re: #129 NJDhockeyfan

New Image of Faisal Shahzad in Times Square

/Its a heart pounding discovery you got that right!

132 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:43:09am

Can anybody give them credit for wanting more black folks instead of less?

133 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:43:20am

re: #130 sattv4u2

Wouldn't a nice hotel room be more comfy for that !?!?!

ROLL! ROLL! ROLL IN ZEE HAY!

134 abbyadams  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:43:36am

re: #86 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Wow, you know, I never thought of it. The parallels between the n-word and teabagger in the historical context, are eerily similar. /

135 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:43:39am

re: #130 sattv4u2

Duuude... that's his mom!

136 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:44:04am

re: #129 NJDhockeyfan

A photo obtained exclusively by CBS News shows the would-be Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzad with friends

All his freinds faces look the same !!

//

137 Lidane  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:44:22am

re: #128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You know you can hide all the Farmville posts, right?

Just mouse over anything from a friend's Farmville feed and you'll get an option to hide that person OR hide all posts related to Farmville. It also works for Mafia Wars, Cafe World, and all the other Facebook games.

Once I got rid of all those games, my Facebook feeds were much easier to read.

138 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:45:00am

re: #133 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

ROLL! ROLL! ROLL IN ZEE HAY!

I love a good Mel Brooks reference !

139 Spider Mensch  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:45:04am

re: #125 Shiplord Kirel

Yes, in some cases, Christian missionaries (not all fundamentalists) preceded purely secular explorers by quite a bit. David Livingstone, for example, was a Congregationalist missionary.
Speaking of The African Queen, I highly recommend CS Forester's original novel. In this, Rose and Allnut are quite a bit younger than in the movie and Rose, at 33, is something of a repressed hottie. The sexual relationship that develops was naturally left out of the movie script.


and as a side note, any fans of the movie, if you ever down Key largo way..the actual "African Queen" is on display here...Image: AfricanQueen.jpg
I think it's at the Holiday Inn Key Largo now. it's even smaller in person than it seemed in the movie.

140 Jadespring  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:45:23am

re: #128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

TELL HER TO STOP ASKING ME FOR NAILS FOR HER FUCKING BARN!

Hee. I finally got mine to take me off the 'come play farmville it's awesome request list.'

MOM. Why on earth would a I want to play a virtual farm game when I DO IT IN REAL LIFE!

Yeesh even my 6 year old nephew gets that. "Auntie has real chickens grandma!'

141 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:45:43am

re: #137 Lidane

Yeah... I know. 'Ceptin on my phone. Can't hide shit on my phone... weeding through all that nonsense...

I am waiting for "I'm waiting for someone to come nail me in my barn..."

Then? I'll play Farmville.

142 Kruk  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:47:13am

re: #62 Lidane

Seriously. You'd think they'd get their uterine fixation here in the States.

There's no limit to their fixation. As long as they have the sneaking suspicion that someone, somewhere is enjoying sex rather than simply treating it as a distastefull neccessity for procreation, they'll be on the warpath.

143 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:47:17am

re: #139 Spider Mensch

That a newer outboard on there?

144 Lidane  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:48:13am

re: #141 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yeah... I know. 'Ceptin on my phone. Can't hide shit on my phone... weeding through all that nonsense...

Really? That's odd. The Facebook iPhone app keeps all my settings, so all the Mafia Wars and Farmville stuff I hid on my computer at home is still gone on my phone.

145 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:48:43am

re: #144 Lidane

iPhone?

SNOB!

146 Kruk  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:48:47am

re: #65 Renaissance_Man

Wow, Redstate has gone off the rails. They're salivating over there at the prospect of righteous violence when the 'left' comes after them with liberal terrorist death squads after they win back power in 2010/12. I wish I was exaggerating.

"Left the rails" rather implies they were on the rails to begin with.

147 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:49:25am

re: #139 Spider Mensch

and as a side note, any fans of the movie, if you ever down Key largo way..the actual "African Queen" is on display here...Image: AfricanQueen.jpg
I think it's at the Holiday Inn Key Largo now. it's even smaller in person than it seemed in the movie.

It looked bigger in the movie because Bogart was a little guy!

148 Obdicut  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:49:29am

re: #132 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Can anybody give them credit for wanting more black folks instead of less?

Why should they get credit for doing something in their self-interest that simply represents the absence of doing something bad?

Why wouldn't they want more black people in the GOP?

149 Spider Mensch  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:49:35am

re: #143 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That a newer outboard on there?


supposedly, they do take it out..it still floats, so the outboard I would imagine is the propulsion..I don't think they want to fire up the old boiler anymore...lol

150 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:51:21am

For the third time in two years the state has found itself in a legal battle, defending an anti-abortion law.

SNIP

Henry is talking about two new abortion laws. One of them requires a woman to have an ultrasound and listen to a detailed description, just before getting an abortion. The other prohibits pregnant women from seeking damages if doctors withhold or provide inaccurate information about their pregnancies. The Governor vetoed both and the Legislature voted to override them.

A lawsuit was filed, challenging the ultrasound law, the day that happened.

SNIP

Over the past two years, the Attorney General's office has defended two anti-abortion laws, including a similar ultrasound law, and lost. The Assistant Attorney General spent time on the cases, instead of working on other things. Plus, the state paid $100,000 for an abortion law expert to help on the cases.

While the Legislature has not appropriated money for the expert's assistance on the new case, the Attorney General's office said high ranking staff in the House and Senate have expressed an interest in hiring her again, with a likely price cap of $100,000.

SNIP

Supreme Court justices said, just three months ago, "We are growing weary of admonishing the Legislature for so flagrantly violating the terms of the Oklahoma Constitution. It is a waste of time for the Legislature and the Court, and a waste of the taxpayer's money."

152 darthstar  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:53:09am

Interesting...so the T-Shirt vendor who notified police about the Times Square bomb wasn't the one who originally spotted it...it was another vendor, a muslim one at that, who noticed the truck...read on:

Aliou Niasse, a street vendor selling framed photographs of New York, said that he was the first to spot the car containing the bomb, which pulled up right in front of his cart on the corner of 45th street and Broadway next to the Marriott hotel.

“I didn’t see the car pull up or notice the driver because I was busy with customers. But when I looked up I saw that smoke appeared to be coming from the car. This would have been around 6.30pm.

“I thought I should call 911, but my English is not very good and I had no credit left on my phone, so I walked over to Lance, who has the T-shirt stall next to mine, and told him. He said we shouldn’t call 911. Immediately he alerted a police officer near by,” said Mr Niasse, who is originally from Senegal and who has been a vendor in Times Square for about eight years.

I wonder if the networks will give this guy credit for taking action?

Linky goodness

153 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:54:22am

re: #148 Obdicut

I was being purposefully dense.

154 Kruk  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:54:42am

re: #86 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

In a serious case of Get the fuck over it;

STRONG BREW

Have a nice frosty mug of shut the fuck up and get over it.

I give that more words than a graduate thesis. And seriously, people really need to stop say "x is like the N word" when "x" is not only outside the ballpark, it can't even see the ballpark. When "x" is shouted at people when they're being lynched, run out of town, stopped from going to school or trying to vote, *then* people get to say that "x is like the N word." Until then, STFU.

155 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:54:44am

Fla., Kan., Okla., Utah Lawmakers Consider Abortion, Sex Education Bills

156 Lidane  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:54:46am

OT, but lightening the mood is always a good thing:

Supreme Court Upholds Freedom Of Speech In Obscenity-Filled Ruling

In a decisive and vulgar 7-2 ruling, the U.S. Supreme Court once again upheld the constitution's First Amendment this week, calling the freedom of expression among the most "inalienable and important rights that a motherfucker can have."

"It is the opinion of this court that the right to speak without censorship or fear of intimidation is fundamental to a healthy democracy," Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg wrote for the majority. "Furthermore, the court finds that the right to say whatever the hell you want, whenever the hell you want, is not only a founding tenet, but remains essential to the continued success of this nation."

Added Ginsburg, "In short, freedom of speech means the freedom of fucking speech, you ignorant cocksuckers."

God, I love The Onion. Heh.

157 darthstar  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:55:01am

re: #145 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

iPhone?

SNOB!

I found a great case for iPhones...everyone should have one.

158 windsword  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:55:53am

re: #121 Obdicut

That is not an actual explanation. I don't really care what the AP and Reuters do; how can you justify saying Charles throws around the phrase anti-choice, and then you, yourself, use the phrase 'pro-abortion'?

It seems very disingenuous.

Furthermore, aside from Catholics, the majority of people who are 'pro-life' are not, in fact, against the death penalty. Do you think that these evangelists are against the death penalty?

Finally, there appears to be very little action against or rhetoric against fertility clinics from anti-choice types, despite the fact that fertility clinics also destroy embryos, so I can't, in the end, even grant them the virtue of consistency.


I was just explaining the term "anti-choice" isn't exactly analogous to "pro-abortion". The better example, I think, would be "pro-death" or "anti-life", which I would never use certainly. Not to mention there ARE people who identify as pro-abortion. No one identifies with the term "anti-choice".

And maybe because I go to a Catholic university, but most pro-lifers I know also care strongly about the other issues I mentioned.

But this all distracts from my original point, which is that there was nothing wrong, or contradictory, about pro-life and pro-choice groups chiming in in Kenya, given how strongly they care about human life/ woman's rights.

159 Renaissance_Man  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:56:00am

re: #146 Kruk

"Left the rails" rather implies they were on the rails to begin with.

About four or five years ago I used to read Redstate all the time, without posting. They used to be just a bunch of hardline conservatives that hated liberals and cheered on Rush, and occasionally had interesting discussions between themselves about the nature of conservatism. They used to allow as many as three different flavours of hardcore conservatism sometimes, and on occasion they would even tolerate a liberal to post for a couple of weeks before feigning offense at something and banning him. Of course, back then they would have five times as many diaries as they do now, and hundreds more commenters.

Now? Nothing more than whacked-out Galtian fantasies about secret code-named superheroes fighting the shadowy forces of liberal commie socialism, interspersed with conspiracy theories and calls to war. It does however give me heart that their numbers have dwindled to so few. It gives me hope that this bizarre fringe cult that Conservatives have become is really a small and insignificant movement.

160 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:56:02am

imprison pat robertson and everyone who gives him money

161 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:56:35am

Taliban cut off hands of three Pakistan tribesmen: officials

The incident took place in the remote Ghaljo village of Orakzai, which is controlled by the Taliban.

"A Taliban court ordered the cutting off of the right hands of three local tribesmen in Orakzai tribal region after finding them guilty of theft," a police official told AFP on condition of anonymity.

He said that the three men were later taken to the north western town of Kohat for medical treatment.

Hospital official Musa Khan confirmed the incident and said that doctors were trying to save the three men's lives.

Orakzai is the latest district in northwest Pakistan's semi-autonomous tribal area to have witnessed an anti-Taliban operation by the military, following US pressure to eradicate Islamist extremism.

Washington calls Pakistan's tribal belt the global headquarters of Al-Qaeda and the most dangerous region in the world. Islamist militants in the area are believed to be fuelling the nearly nine-year insurgency in Afghanistan.

162 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:57:51am

re: #157 darthstar

I found a great case for iPhones...everyone should have one.

Heh

163 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:59:00am

Ruh Roh

Pittsburgh Steeler fans are going to be pissed. There's a large front cover story about Ben Roethlisberger in this weeks Sports Illustrated thats non-too-flattering!

164 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:00:50am

San Antonio refinery on fire following explosion

An oil refinery just southeast of downtown San Antonio is on fire.

The fire started at the AGE Refinery on South Presa, following an explosion. Large black plumes of smoke can be seen spilling into the skies above San Antonio.

The plant is located near Mission San Juan on Military Dr. and Presa.

AGE Refining, Inc., is based out of San Antonio. They refine several specialized petroleum products, including jet fuel and diesel. The company was founded in 1991.

There is at least one burn victim, according to initial reports.

Our sister station, KENS 5, has a crew on the way.

I guess $2/gallon gas is off the table this summer.
/

I may have to look at some alternate energy solutions, either ride my bicycle or perhaps find a car that runs on Chick tracts. There seems to be an enormous stockpile of these here in Texas. I used to find them under my windshield wipers about every other class day. The donor must have graduated or joined the Hare Krishnas or something because they stopped appearing after a couple of years.

165 Obdicut  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:00:55am

re: #158 windsword

I was just explaining the term "anti-choice" isn't exactly analogous to "pro-abortion". The better example, I think, would be "pro-death" or "anti-life", which I would never use certainly. Not to mention there ARE people who identify as pro-abortion. No one identifies with the term "anti-choice".

Name me a person who identifies as pro-abortion, please.

And maybe because I go to a Catholic university, but most pro-lifers I know also care strongly about the other issues I mentioned.

Yes, your anecdotal evidence isn't really relevant. There are very large numbers of people who are anti-abortion, but pro-death penalty.


But this all distracts from my original point, which is that there was nothing wrong, or contradictory, about pro-life and pro-choice groups chiming in in Kenya, given how strongly they care about human life/ woman's rights.

Well, of course there's something wrong with non-Kenyans trying to influence the Kenyan constitution in this manner. But furthermore, I already said I agreed with you that it was completely consistent for those people who do not believe in a woman's rights and who believe that a zygote is a person to ban abortion for women who have been raped, so I'm not sure why you're repeating that. I also pointed out that if they wanted to be truly consistent, they'd want to ban fertility clinics as well. That they don't I do believe shows an inconsistency in their worldview.

167 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:01:11am

re: #162 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Heh

Lets not forget
[Link: www.hulu.com...]

168 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:01:48am

re: #152 darthstar

Interesting...so the T-Shirt vendor who notified police about the Times Square bomb wasn't the one who originally spotted it...it was another vendor, a muslim one at that, who noticed the truck...read on:

I wonder if the networks will give this guy credit for taking action?

Linky goodness

another point I would like to see made-- I hope this makes NYC lighten up on the street vendors. They ought to issue more permits, not fewer.

Street vendors, apart from a beat cop, are going to be the best equipped of all to implement "see something, say something." They work the same spot for up to 14 hours a day every day, they know better than anyone what 'normal' foot traffic and 'normal behaviour' looks like in their specific locale, and they're constantly monitoring everything going on around them (to spot potential customers AND to spot people who will rip them off by grabbing shit).
Seriously. Issue them more permits. Hell, freakin' deputize them.

169 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:02:29am

re: #155 MandyManners

Fla., Kan., Okla., Utah Lawmakers Consider Abortion, Sex Education Bills

The Kansas Senate has failed to override Gov. Mark Parkinson's veto of a bill rewriting the state's late-term abortion laws.

The vote Wednesday was 26-14 to override, one vote short of the two-thirds majority needed to overturn Parkinson's veto. Abortion rights opponents have said they did not expect to ask the Senate to reconsider its action.

SNIP

170 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:02:48am

re: #167 sattv4u2

I knew it before I clicked it.

171 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:03:31am

re: #170 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I knew it before I clicked it.

classic,, remember when SNL was ,, whats the word I'm looking for ,, oh yeahh ,FUNNY!

172 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:03:41am

re: #158 windsword

Not to mention there ARE people who identify as pro-abortion.

Who? Got a link or two?

173 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:04:03am

re: #171 sattv4u2

The show was always hit or miss....

174 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:04:34am

re: #15 Obdicut

It's a pretty clear indication of what they really want in the US, as well.

What they want in the U.S. has always been clear.

175 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:04:35am

re: #166 Kruk

Ouch. That's about the closest a Court can come to a verbal pimp-slapping.

Their own justices smacked them!

176 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:05:41am

re: #173 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The show was always hit or miss...

Not back then. At least 3 out of every 4 of their skits were hilarious

177 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:06:24am

re: #171 sattv4u2

Not debatable, but you can try...

Two greatest SNL cast members...

2. Gilda Radner
1. Phil Hartman

178 Lidane  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:06:56am

re: #158 windsword

Not to mention there ARE people who identify as pro-abortion.

Bullshit. I've never once met a single person who is pro-abortion. Not one. They're pro-choice, because they believe that people should be able to choose for themselves whether or not they will bring a child into the world.

179 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:08:29am

re: #39 jamesfirecat

Well then that was quite a bit of luck wasn't it?

An astounding amount of luck...

Wait a moment...

Obama is actually part Irish isn't he...

Oh my god Obama is secretly a Leprechaun!

There is a special providence that watches over children, drunks, and the United States of America.

180 Obdicut  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:08:43am

re: #174 SanFranciscoZionist

What they want in the U.S. has always been clear.

Well, a lot of the public faces of the anti-abortion groups tend to say that cases of rape and incest are different and abortion should be allowed in those cases. It's only relatively recently, I feel, that they've been being more consistent and wanting it banned in those cases as well. That's what I meant.

181 darthstar  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:09:29am

re: #155 MandyManners

Fla., Kan., Okla., Utah Lawmakers Consider Abortion, Sex Education Bills

Only because rent boys can't get pregnant.

182 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:09:47am

re: #177 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Not debatable, but you can try...

Two greatest SNL cast members...

2. Gilda Radner
1. Phil Hartman

HArd to choose
Murphy, Carvey, Belushi, Murray, Franken

183 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:10:36am

re: #182 sattv4u2

HArd to choose
Murphy, Carvey, Belushi, Murray, Franken

Norm Macdonald. And Frank Stallone.

184 NorthWhale  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:10:55am

Sorry to go OT
Peter Sinclair, who needs no introduction here on LGF, is asking for help.

Youtube Video

Again, my apologies for the interruption.

185 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:11:01am

re: #181 darthstar

Only because rent boys can't get pregnant.

Oh, you're terrible.

186 lawhawk  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:11:19am

Did US Army Spy Plane Snoop on Shahzad's Calls To Track Him Down?:

Investigators were able to track wannabe terrorist Faisal Shahzad through his anonymous, pre-paid cell phone — exactly how, they won’t say. But there was a tantalizing explanation posted — and then quickly yanked — from the website of WCBS TV. “In the end, it was secret Army intelligence planes that did him in. Armed with his cell phone number, they circled the skies over the New York area, intercepting a call to Emirates Airlines reservations, before scrambling to catch him at John F. Kennedy International Airport.”

Jeremy Scahill, relying on a source in U.S. Special Operations, says those planes were likely RC-12s, equipped with a Guardrail Signals Intelligence (SIGINT) system. The planes are designed to pluck all kinds of communications from the air. But from the ground, they could easily be mistaken for an executive aircraft. The RC-12 is based on the Hawker-Beechcraft King Air B200 suit-carrier. And while earlier versions of the aircraft were covered in odd-looking antennas, the latest aircraft are far less conspicuous.

Variants of the planes are at the center of “Project Liberty,” a crash project by the Air Force to send more airborne spies to Afghanistan. The first of an estimated 37 aircraft began flying there last December.

“It sucks up everything. We’ve got these things in Jalalabad [Afghanistan]. We routinely fly these things over Khandahar. When I say everything, I mean BlueTooth would be effected, even the wave length that PlayStation controllers are on. They suck up everything. That’s the point,” Scahill’s source tells him.

187 Lidane  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:11:48am

re: #181 darthstar

Only because rent boys can't get pregnant.

All that (uncut) luggage they're carrying isn't exactly conducive to pregnancy, you know.

188 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:11:55am

re: #183 Mad Al-Jaffee

Norm was a terrible actor, only memorable character he played was Burt "Turd Furgeson" Reynolds on Jeopardy.

But, I appreciate the sarcasm.

189 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:12:14am

re: #152 darthstar

Interesting...so the T-Shirt vendor who notified police about the Times Square bomb wasn't the one who originally spotted it...it was another vendor, a muslim one at that, who noticed the truck...read on:

I wonder if the networks will give this guy credit for taking action?

Linky goodness

I certainly hope the media will mention that the guy who spotted it is a muslim immigrant. So far, not so much. We'll see.

Media Ignore The Fact That Man Who Alerted Police To Failed Times Square Bombing Is A Muslim Immigrant

190 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:13:26am

re: #188 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Norm was a terrible actor, only memorable character he played was Burt "Turd Furgeson" Reynolds on Jeopardy.

But, I appreciate the sarcasm.

He was the best weekend update anchor of the last couple of decades. Not a great actor, but a very funny one. He did a great Larry King and Bob Dole too.

191 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:14:30am

re: #65 Renaissance_Man

Wow, Redstate has gone off the rails. They're salivating over there at the prospect of righteous violence when the 'left' comes after them with liberal terrorist death squads after they win back power in 2010/12. I wish I was exaggerating.

Don't think Redstate was ever really ON the rails.

192 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:17:24am

re: #70 lostlakehiker

How can someone subvert a constitution until it's been written? The subversion isn't so much a subversion of the constitution as it is of Kenyan independence. What business is it of Pat Robertson to say anything one way or another about a proposed constitution for Kenya?

The whole thing is moot. Kenya is a failed state. The capital city goes by the nickname Nairobbery. Neighboring Tanzania has had to close the northern entrance to its Kilimanjaro National Park because of raids from Kenya. Whatever constitution is adapted, the law on the ground will be whatever the man at the checkpoint says it is. Mostly that will mean that a payment is required.

Bolded for emphasis.

But presumably these people aren't throwing their money into this because they think it will make no difference. They're willing to go halfway around the world and undermine the independence and sovereignty of a whole country just to avoid

a. a few women getting abortions before they die of lingering complications

b. the possibility that Kenya might someday get its act together and pass different abortion laws

193 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:18:44am

re: #76 sattv4u2

6) paid IN CASH for a ONE WAY ticket

Why do they always do that? I'd think blowing another thousand bucks to gain that level of cover would sort of make sense.

194 oklahoma  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:20:00am

Just registered after lurking for a while. Read it was customary to say hello. Not much to say on this topic, but will jump in some time.

195 darthstar  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:20:57am

re: #194 oklahoma

Just registered after lurking for a while. Read it was customary to say hello. Not much to say on this topic, but will jump in some time.

Welcome to LGF, oklahoma, where the winds come sweeping down the plain...

196 Kruk  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:21:03am

re: #189 iceweasel

I certainly hope the media will mention that the guy who spotted it is a muslim immigrant. So far, not so much. We'll see.

Media Ignore The Fact That Man Who Alerted Police To Failed Times Square Bombing Is A Muslim Immigrant

Poor guy will be lucky if someone doesn't say he's a mole establishing his credentials by throughing the feds an incompetent fall guy.

197 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:21:12am

re: #158 windsword

Well? Got any proof that people self-identify as "pro-abortion"? Or, are you saying others identify them as such?

198 webevintage  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:21:15am

re: #194 oklahoma

Just registered after lurking for a while. Read it was customary to say hello. Not much to say on this topic, but will jump in some time.

The window is open?
Well welcome....

199 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:21:36am

re: #194 oklahoma

Just registered after lurking for a while. Read it was customary to say hello. Not much to say on this topic, but will jump in some time.

WELCOME!

200 darthstar  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:21:47am

re: #198 webevintage

The window is open?
Well welcome...

I thought I felt a draft. ;)

201 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:21:58am

Welcome Oklahoma!!

202 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:22:03am

re: #195 darthstar

Welcome to LGF, oklahoma, where the winds come sweeping down the plain...

Take me back to Tulsa, I'm too young to marry...

203 Four More Tears  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:22:13am

re: #193 SanFranciscoZionist

Why do they always do that? I'd think blowing another thousand bucks to gain that level of cover would sort of make sense.

This guy wasn't really into planning for the future. Once you've used your own ISP to buy the car and left the keys to your front door in said car you've proven to me that you have no clue how this works.

204 Kruk  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:22:16am

re: #196 Kruk

throwing, rather. PIMF.

205 webevintage  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:22:34am

Isn't Pat Robertson so involved in Africa because he has some interest in diamond mines?

206 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:22:39am

re: #86 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

In a serious case of Get the fuck over it;

STRONG BREW


Have a nice frosty mug of shut the fuck up and get over it.

Like I always say, I avoid using 'tea-bagger' because it seems to offend people. (I think it offends them more than is totally reasonable, but what the hell.)

Comparing it to the other, which I cannot write in full because I am afraid my late grandmother will come out of the ether to smack my mouth, displays an almost pathological degree of Not Getting It, and Feeling Unreasonable Put Upon, with a hefty dose of No Goddamn Respect For People Who've Really Have To Put Up With Racist Shit.

207 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:23:16am

re: #86 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

In a serious case of Get the fuck over it;

STRONG BREW


Have a nice frosty mug of shut the fuck up and get over it.

And by the way, the Tea Party Affiliates don't own middle America.

208 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:25:02am

re: #92 webevintage

What a fucking asshole.
What an offensive asshole.
What an un-American offensive asshole.

By saying that he is smearing the folks in the NYPD and the justice department who were able to get this guy in less the 60 hours. How dare he?
I wish he would move to Costa Rica already...

(of course the fact that Shahzad seems to be a bit of a moron helped)

SOB has two kids and a wife. I wonder what she knew, and I wonder where and how the kids are going to be raised.

I hope she knew nothing, and they move to a nice 'burb elsewhere in New England and live happily ever after.

209 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:25:07am

How cool is this?...

210 webevintage  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:27:26am

re: #208 SanFranciscoZionist

SOB has two kids and a wife. I wonder what she knew, and I wonder where and how the kids are going to be raised.

I hope she knew nothing, and they move to a nice 'burb elsewhere in New England and live happily ever after.

I hope so too, but I've yet to hear anything about her.
Normally the press would be all over her and her family...

211 Bubblehead II  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:27:39am

re: #194 oklahoma

Welcome to LGF. Hope you have a thick hide. Now get me a beer. :-)

212 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:28:16am

re: #211 Bubblehead II

Welcome to LGF. Hope you have a thick hide. Now get me a beer. :-)

Make mine of the root variety.

213 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:28:48am

re: #194 oklahoma

Bubblehead just reminded me...get me two fingers of Basil Hayden's while you're up.

214 Four More Tears  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:28:55am

re: #211 Bubblehead II

Welcome to LGF. Hope you have a thick hide. Now get me a beer. :-)

I could use some more coffee. Cream and sugar.

215 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:29:04am

re: #100 sattv4u2

Any of them named Sean O'Malley?? Sven Ingram? Guiseppi Rizzo???

"Sigh. Yes, this is Mohammed Kardar. Sure, I can meet your agent. Starbucks OK? There's one downstairs from my office. Look, I never actually met the guy. His wife went to school in Karachi with my sister, and he found me through one of those high-school look-up engines. He was always trying to get me to play that stupid Farmville game. If I wanted to farm, I could have stayed in Pakistan. Sure, I can answer some questions. See you in fifteen."

216 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:29:19am

Any other orders for Oklahoma?

217 Political Atheist  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:29:33am

re: #82 Jeff In Ohio

Was away here at work...

Cool! Looking forward to seeing some.

218 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:29:34am

re: #216 MandyManners

Any other orders for Oklahoma?

I need my novel edited.

219 Four More Tears  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:30:22am

re: #218 Oh no...Sand People!

I need my novel edited.

Can't afford Cato?

220 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:30:49am

re: #117 sattv4u2

Doesn't mean he said 'Hey, mom,, I'll be there in a few days after I detonate this car bomb in Times Square"

And if he's not connected to a network or group we already knew about...

221 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:30:50am

I HATE GOLF!
First off..You just can't sit around all winter with a foot of snow on the ground and go out in Spring and play this Game...
My swing feels like an unfolded lawn chair..I'm slicing into the woods...I hit trees in the woods..I'm lifting my head...
And on the greens..My gawd..I can't putt any more...
The secret to putting is to putt to the ball within 3 foot of the hole..Then tap it in..( Don't go all Tiger on me )
I'm putting 20 feet past the pin walking behind the ball screaming..' Any time you want to stop bitch..Just stop!' I am so frustrated with golf..
At the turn I walked into the club house and ordered 2 shots of Crown...I played the back 9 a little better..more relaxed...
I HATE GOLF....
/I'll be back in a few days damn it...

222 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:30:54am

re: #218 Oh no...Sand People!

I need my novel edited.

I was thinking more along the lines of refreshment but, what's it about?

223 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:31:24am

re: #219 JasonA

Can't afford Cato?

I couldn't handle the verbal assaults on how horrible the substance is.

224 Political Atheist  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:31:27am

re: #111 lawhawk

Proselytism was part and parcel of the entire spanish conquistador effort. Te Catholic church has "civilized" million upon millions this way over 500 years

225 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:31:51am

re: #221 HoosierHoops

Then tap it in.


Oooh.

226 Four More Tears  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:32:10am

re: #223 Oh no...Sand People!

I couldn't handle the verbal assaults on how horrible the substance is.

Just part of the job.

227 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:32:13am

re: #216 MandyManners

Any other orders for Oklahoma?

Some beef jerky from this place, in my father's hometown.

228 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:32:26am

re: #223 Oh no...Sand People!

I couldn't handle the verbal assaults on how horrible the substance is.

I reckon it'd be hard to have an editor on permanent GAZE.

229 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:33:27am

re: #221 HoosierHoops

I HATE GOLF!
First off..You just can't sit around all winter with a foot of snow on the ground and go out in Spring and play this Game...
My swing feels like an unfolded lawn chair..I'm slicing into the woods...I hit trees in the woods..I'm lifting my head...
And on the greens..My gawd..I can't putt any more...
The secret to putting is to putt to the ball within 3 foot of the hole..Then tap it in..( Don't go all Tiger on me )
I'm putting 20 feet past the pin walking behind the ball screaming..' Any time you want to stop bitch..Just stop!' I am so frustrated with golf..
At the turn I walked into the club house and ordered 2 shots of Crown...I played the back 9 a little better..more relaxed...
I HATE GOLF...
/I'll be back in a few days damn it...

Whats wrong with Golf?

You drink, you ride the little car, you curse like a sailor, if you find a ball, you hit it.

I will admit, I dont exactly play Golf the way the pros do.

230 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:34:33am

re: #221 HoosierHoops

My swing feels like an unfolded lawn chair

Is that you, Mr Costner!?!?

231 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:34:47am

re: #221 HoosierHoops

"Golf is white men; in ugly pants; walking."
-George Carlin

232 darthstar  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:34:56am

re: #221 HoosierHoops

I HATE GOLF!
First off..You just can't sit around all winter with a foot of snow on the ground and go out in Spring and play this Game...
My swing feels like an unfolded lawn chair..I'm slicing into the woods...I hit trees in the woods..I'm lifting my head...
And on the greens..My gawd..I can't putt any more...
The secret to putting is to putt to the ball within 3 foot of the hole..Then tap it in..( Don't go all Tiger on me )
I'm putting 20 feet past the pin walking behind the ball screaming..' Any time you want to stop bitch..Just stop!' I am so frustrated with golf..
At the turn I walked into the club house and ordered 2 shots of Crown...I played the back 9 a little better..more relaxed...
I HATE GOLF...
/I'll be back in a few days damn it...

I HATE GOLF
I HATE GOLF
I HATE GOLF
I HATE GOLF
I HATE GOLF
"nice shot"
I love golf.

I'm playing in a charity tournament on Friday (first time swinging my clubs since last year)...it's a scramble, and fun...they have a margarita hole, a mai tai hole, and the rest will likely be Guiness holes as I load my cart with beer to offset my shitty play.

233 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:34:59am

re: #227 Mad Al-Jaffee

Some beef jerky from this place, in my father's hometown.

Yummy idea.

234 Political Atheist  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:35:13am

re: #194 oklahoma

Welcome!!

235 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:35:27am

re: #222 MandyManners

I was thinking more along the lines of refreshment but, what's it about?

I am 6 chapters from being done with book 1, It'll be around 120,000 words, but once edited I am sure it will be in around 90,000 ish. Part 1 of a 3 book series.
Click my name and it'll take you to my note blog. My music taste sucks so turn down the volume.

Basically I am taking some theological loose ends and tying them together. Demons, sin, that type of thing, but I am having fun with it. I have some of my art on there, some ideas, notes, and photoshop stuff I threw up. It's mainly to keep me on track, might not mean a whole lot to anyone else.

236 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:35:33am

re: #180 Obdicut

Well, a lot of the public faces of the anti-abortion groups tend to say that cases of rape and incest are different and abortion should be allowed in those cases. It's only relatively recently, I feel, that they've been being more consistent and wanting it banned in those cases as well. That's what I meant.

I have much less respect for folks who say that rape cases are different. I have never understood the reasoning behind it, although some people here have been kind enough to try to explain their thinking about it to me.

237 darthstar  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:35:41am

re: #229 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Whats wrong with Golf?

You drink, you ride the little car, you curse like a sailor, if you find a ball, you hit it.

I will admit, I dont exactly play Golf the way the pros do.

I score myself on strokes-per-dollar. The more swings I take, the more value I get for my fee.

238 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:35:45am

re: #229 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Whats wrong with Golf?

You drink, you ride the little car, you curse like a sailor, if you find a ball, you hit it.

I will admit, I dont exactly play Golf the way the pros do.

And, if you're like Dickhead, you spend up to $500.00 a weekend!

239 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:36:08am

re: #231 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Golf is white men; in ugly pants; walking."
-George Carlin

Golf ,, a terrible way to ruin a lovely walk

240 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:36:25am

re: #229 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I new an 80 year old man who always shot in the low 80s.

If he got to 82 by the third or tenth hole? That was where he quit.

241 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:36:27am

re: #229 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Whats wrong with Golf?

You drink, you ride the little car, you curse like a sailor, if you find a ball, you hit it.

I will admit, I dont exactly play Golf the way the pros do.

You forgot something..It's against the law to play golf without smoking a cigar.. If it's an illegal Cuban cigar..That even is better!
We should add Cuba as a state..F*ck Castro!

242 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:36:40am

re: #238 MandyManners

And, if you're like Dickhead, you spend up to $500.00 a weekend!

I never pay to play golf.

243 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:36:45am

re: #235 Oh no...Sand People!

I am 6 chapters from being done with book 1, It'll be around 120,000 words, but once edited I am sure it will be in around 90,000 ish. Part 1 of a 3 book series.
Click my name and it'll take you to my note blog. My music taste sucks so turn down the volume.

Basically I am taking some theological loose ends and tying them together. Demons, sin, that type of thing, but I am having fun with it. I have some of my art on there, some ideas, notes, and photoshop stuff I threw up. It's mainly to keep me on track, might not mean a whole lot to anyone else.

Not a light Summer read for the pool?

244 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:37:54am

Was having a GREAT round of golf till the frakkin WindMill screwed me up!

245 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:37:57am

re: #240 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I new an 80 year old man...

That is a lie. He wasn't new at all. He was very old, in fact.

246 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:38:03am

I love golf. I was sent to a trade show in Orlando one year and had a cabin on some posh golf course. I sat on the porch each afternoon after the days activities, i a cold beer and a reefer in hand and had a good laugh at the duffers as they labored by chasing that little ball. Thanks guys, you light up my life.

247 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:38:19am

re: #235 Oh no...Sand People!

Actually, I like the music.

248 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:38:46am

re: #240 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I new an 80 year old man who always shot in the low 80s.

If he got to 82 by the third or tenth hole? That was where he quit.

I played a round in the low 70's

We didn't play the next day because it was supposed to get colder !!

249 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:38:55am

re: #243 MandyManners

Not a light Summer read for the pool?

Nope. It's pretty brutal, but it will get some heads thinking in my target niche.

250 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:39:03am

re: #232 darthstar

I HATE GOLF
I HATE GOLF
I HATE GOLF
I HATE GOLF
I HATE GOLF
"nice shot"
I love golf.

I'm playing in a charity tournament on Friday (first time swinging my clubs since last year)...it's a scramble, and fun...they have a margarita hole, a mai tai hole, and the rest will likely be Guiness holes as I load my cart with beer to offset my shitty play.

I love scrambles! I won a white leather Crown Royale golf bag last year.. It's really pretty..I have a wicked black Nike Tour bag..

251 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:39:24am

Update on the San Antonio refinery fire:
18-wheeler explodes at San Antonio refinery

Naturally, I've fired up the steam dredger (fueled by Chick Tracts) and gone over to check responses at the Fever Swamp. They are even more bug-fuck crazy than usual.

"Hmmmm Awfully suspicious.......The timing for the Obama Administration is too convienient......".

"I’m really starting to see a pattern here. Eco terror or Muslim terror?"

"So..are we going to continue to pursue the idea that all of this is accidental and coincidental?"

"Sabotage so that the administration can crack down. Again."

"econazis at work..puttin carbon out of business....bet there’s a faction now controllin’ one of the alphabet agencies...”shiver”"

"Gee. 2 refineries, one coal mine and one oil rig all since the beginning of April. What a coincidence. I was a policeman for 30 years so I don’t believe in coincidence."

"I have two words: Reich and Stag."

"Only difference here is that today’s statists have learned a bit from history. Investigators had plenty of clues with Reichstag... not so much here (at least that we’ve heard of)."


"Is anyone else thinking something like ‘Greenpeace’ about now..".

To be fair, the ever-dwindling contingent of rational freepers has weighed in with a forlorn effort to pour cold water on this hysteria. This one, early in the string, had a certain prophetic value.

"Marked to watch the nuts come out!"

252 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:39:36am

re: #242 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I never pay to play golf.

Breakfast. Beer. Lunch. Beer. Kicking it. Beer. Dinner. Beer.

253 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:39:49am

re: #250 HoosierHoops

I love scrambles! I won a white leather Crown Royale golf bag last year.. It's really pretty..I have a wicked black Nike Tour bag..

Lots of the ladies at the club I play at have those !!
/

254 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:39:56am

re: #233 MandyManners

Yummy idea.

I could also use some catfish from here:

[Link: www.swaviator.com...]

Haven't been there since I was a kid.

255 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:40:23am

Fertile ground, very fertile ground with the extreme evangelical brand of Christianity they have there, "witch finders" (pastors) make money "casting out demons" and telling parents that their child is actually a witch. They still burn them, beat them senseless, throw them in a ditch, and then burn them.

Why not add Homosexuality to the existing witch racket? They can make even more money by pointing out the gays and burning them too, right?

*NSFW*Do not watch the video if you are sickened by people being burned alive by a crowd because they are "witches." *NSFW*

256 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:40:23am

re: #246 Jeff In Ohio

I love golf. I was sent to a trade show in Orlando one year and had a cabin on some posh golf course. I sat on the porch each afternoon after the days activities, i a cold beer and a reefer in hand and had a good laugh at the duffers as they labored by chasing that little ball. Thanks guys, you light up my life.

Used to live close to golf course growing up. My Dad would always slow down when he drove past it and try to catch someone mid swing so he could lay on the horn.

257 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:40:24am

re: #249 Oh no...Sand People!

Nope. It's pretty brutal, but it will get some heads thinking in my target niche.

Gotta' say my eyebrow was cocked when I saw that Masonic execution thingy.

258 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:40:27am

re: #248 sattv4u2

I actually enjoy your literal jokes. Really.

Seen the "Literal Videos"?

259 darthstar  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:41:18am

re: #235 Oh no...Sand People!

hey...you like Killing Joke? I've never met anyone who knew who they were...loved their stuff when I was a kid.

260 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:41:45am

re: #251 Shiplord Kirel

Update on the San Antonio refinery fire:
18-wheeler explodes at San Antonio refinery

Naturally, I've fired up the steam dredger (fueled by Chick Tracts) and gone over to check responses at the Fever Swamp. They are even more bug-fuck crazy than usual.

That is beyond bug-fuck crazy.

261 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:42:17am

re: #257 MandyManners

Gotta' say my eyebrow was cocked when I saw that Masonic execution thingy.

This book has a massive LDS slant of course since that is my target audience, but anything 'masonic' hits home to a degree, since Joseph Smith was one and borrowed a load of their stuff for our stuff.

262 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:42:38am

re: #256 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Used to live close to golf course growing up. My Dad would always slow down when he drove past it and try to catch someone mid swing so he could lay on the horn.

For some reason my dad thought it a good idea to go to the golf course every weekend with a net and wade around in the water traps collecting balls. We had hundreds of them. maybe thousands. Just now, I realize that is weird. I mean, pennies I can see, but golf balls?

263 Four More Tears  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:42:43am

Conan O'Brien's 60 Minutes Interview Internal Monologue

NSFW, but funny as hell.

264 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:43:17am

re: #259 darthstar

hey...you like Killing Joke? I've never met anyone who knew who they were...loved their stuff when I was a kid.

Love them. Currently though my Fav's on the light side of the Force are Lisa Gerrard, and on the dark side of the Force, Front 242: Up Evil, the song Religion just rules.

265 Lidane  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:43:28am

Sarah Palin's Hilarious Answer To The Oil Spill: Don't Trust FOREIGN Oil Companies

*sigh*

Because that's the biggest lesson to learn in all this mess. Really.

I think Ron White sums it up nicely:

Youtube Video
266 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:43:30am

re: #254 Mad Al-Jaffee

I could also use some catfish from here:

[Link: www.swaviator.com...]

Haven't been there since I was a kid.

I fry my own. Messy beyond belief but, worth it.

Catfish. Hush puppies. Navy beans. Vidalia onion. Slaw. Corn on the cob. Coconut pie or lemon ice-box pie.

267 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:43:31am

re: #253 sattv4u2

Lots of the ladies at the club I play at have those !!
/

I have never used it..But I should have used it today and wore a nice little black cocktail dress on the course..Dang it!
Oh by the way we played at a Pete Dye designed course..
/I think I hate him

268 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:43:38am

re: #262 Jeff In Ohio

For some reason my dad thought it a good idea to go to the golf course every weekend with a net and wade around in the water traps collecting balls. We had hundreds of them. maybe thousands. Just now, I realize that is weird. I mean, pennies I can see, but golf balls?

Normally, I thought people just did that to sell them back to the course.

269 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:43:40am

re: #259 darthstar

hey...you like Killing Joke? I've never met anyone who knew who they were...loved their stuff when I was a kid.

C'mon, sonny, never met one person who knew who Killing Joke was? What next, who were the Buzzcocks?

270 subsailor68  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:44:20am

re: #221 HoosierHoops

I HATE GOLF!

Hi Hoops! Heh! I had to play a charity tournament last Friday after not swinging a club (or putting) for a year. Didn't have time to practice much with woods or irons, so concentrated on putting. I did the following (feel free to completely ignore me!):

1. Stood behind the ball and tried to read line/speed. Picked the best line I could see.
2. Walked up to the ball with the putter in my right hand only. Set the putter down behind the ball and lined it up with the line I'd chosen.
3. Put my left hand on the putter in my standard butter grip.
4. Looked just behind the putter blade - kept my eyes there.
5. Hit the putt, bringing the putter back as far as I thought it needed to go, then through to the same point at the end of the swing. Kept my eyes on the spot I'd picked in step 4 and just listened to hear the ball hit the cup. (That made sure my head stayed still.)

Worked for me. During the tournament I made a 36 footer and a 25 footer - along with most of the shorter putts and all the ones under three feet.

Heh. Like I said above - feel free to ignore everything I've written!

;-)

271 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:44:22am

re: #261 Oh no...Sand People!

This book has a massive LDS slant of course since that is my target audience, but anything 'masonic' hits home to a degree, since Joseph Smith was one and borrowed a load of their stuff for our stuff.

Well, I bet that will get some buzz going in your targeted audience.

272 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:44:32am

re: #266 MandyManners

I fry my own. Messy beyond belief but, worth it.

Catfish. Hush puppies. Navy beans. Vidalia onion. Slaw. Corn on the cob. Coconut pie or lemon ice-box pie.


Do you think Catfish have 9 lives?

273 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:44:44am

re: #265 Lidane

Sarah Palin's Hilarious Answer To The Oil Spill: Don't Trust FOREIGN Oil Companies

*sigh*

Because that's the biggest lesson to learn in all this mess. Really.

I think Ron White sums it up nicely:


[Video]

I don't like the 'isolationist' tone. Free trade with everyone is good. Trade with all, ally with none.

274 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:45:03am

re: #265 Lidane

Sarah Palin's Hilarious Answer To The Oil Spill: Don't Trust FOREIGN Oil Companies

*sigh*

Because that's the biggest lesson to learn in all this mess. Really.

I think Ron White sums it up nicely:

[Video]

Because Exxon did so well by Alaska?

275 darthstar  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:45:09am

re: #264 Oh no...Sand People!

Love them. Currently though my Fav's on the light side of the Force are Lisa Gerrard, and on the dark side of the Force, Front 242: Up Evil, the song Religion just rules.

Requiem was always a favorite song of mine...

Youtube Video
276 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:45:19am

re: #262 Jeff In Ohio

For some reason my dad thought it a good idea to go to the golf course every weekend with a net and wade around in the water traps collecting balls. We had hundreds of them. maybe thousands. Just now, I realize that is weird. I mean, pennies I can see, but golf balls?

Don't laugh. I knew a guy back when I lived in North Carolina would go around to half dozen courses doing just that, then selling the balls out of his trunk at flea markets. THAT was his 'job'. His wife didn't work

He had
A) a nicer house than mine (and I had a fairly nice one)
B) better cars than me (and mine weren't shabby by any means)

277 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:45:26am

re: #272 HoosierHoops

Do you think Catfish have 9 lives?

Not around my grandfathers.

278 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:45:26am

re: #266 MandyManners

I fry my own. Messy beyond belief but, worth it.

Catfish. Hush puppies. Navy beans. Vidalia onion. Slaw. Corn on the cob. Coconut pie or lemon ice-box pie.

Now I'm hungry again.

279 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:46:01am

re: #268 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Normally, I thought people just did that to sell them back to the course.


see 276

280 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:46:46am

re: #270 subsailor68

I'm raising my head sailor...I need to spend a few hours practicing soon just putting...Dang it I sucked today...

281 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:46:47am

re: #276 sattv4u2

re: #268 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)


shit maybe he gave them to his sales clients...

282 sattv4u2  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:47:29am

Outtahere

283 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:47:29am

re: #269 Jeff In Ohio

What next, who were the Buzzcocks?

I'm going to say something found in George Reker's luggage.

284 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:47:31am

re: #271 MandyManners

Well, I bet that will get some buzz going in your targeted audience.

I am skeptical a publisher will touch this thing, but I'm still pushing on.

285 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:48:42am

re: #269 Jeff In Ohio

C'mon, sonny, never met one person who knew who Killing Joke was? What next, who were the Buzzcocks?

I've heard of both bands but I can't name a song by either of them.

286 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:48:46am

re: #275 darthstar

Did I just call you sonny?

I need to get drunk and or laid. My wife's been in Africa for 3 weeks, I think I'm going crazy. How do people raise kids by themselves and have a life? My hat is off to you, you peoplerule! (and not he Ross Perot pejorative 'you people')

287 tradewind  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:49:01am

re: #266 MandyManners
Nummy. And just think, I peeked at the post title and thought ' this would not be a very fun thread '. Boy was I wrong.....//

288 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:49:31am

re: #283 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm going to say something found in George Reker's luggage.

Right next to his Butthole Surfers LP.

289 tradewind  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:49:59am

re: #286 Jeff In Ohio

I need to get drunk and or laid


Why choose? Go all out.////
:)

290 subsailor68  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:50:14am

re: #280 HoosierHoops

I'm raising my head sailor...I need to spend a few hours practicing soon just putting...Dang it I sucked today...

Hey! You know what you're doing wrong - fixin' it won't take long at all! Hang in there!

291 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:53:08am

re: #275 darthstar

Requiem was always a favorite song of mine...


[Video]

I really like: Millenium and Pandemonium.

Youtube Video
292 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:54:08am

re: #255 ausador

Fertile ground, very fertile ground with the extreme evangelical brand of Christianity they have there, "witch finders" (pastors) make money "casting out demons" and telling parents that their child is actually a witch. They still burn them, beat them senseless, throw them in a ditch, and then burn them.

Why not add Homosexuality to the existing witch racket? They can make even more money by pointing out the gays and burning them too, right?

*NSFW*Do not watch the video if you are sickened by people being burned alive by a crowd because they are "witches." *NSFW*

That is the most revolting thing I have ever seen, even after a year in Vietnam and 10 months in Iraq.

Barbarism like this is a big part of the reason I own guns. Don't delude yourselves that it can't happen here, either. Equally barbaric lynchings happened in this country within living memory and people like this are capable of anything when they have the mob and their dogma to hide behind.

293 tradewind  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:54:25am

re: #227 Mad Al-Jaffee
I just wish they still called it pemmican, like the native ' mericans.
Jerky just sounds.... jerky. Or Caribbean and spicy.

294 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:54:59am

re: #278 Mad Al-Jaffee

Now I'm hungry again.

Sorry, Charlie.

295 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:55:30am

re: #293 tradewind

I just wish they still called it pemmican, like the native ' mericans.
Jerky just sounds... jerky. Or Caribbean and spicy.

Look Jerky, I don't need to talk to you.

296 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:55:31am

re: #284 Oh no...Sand People!

I am skeptical a publisher will touch this thing, but I'm still pushing on.

You can always publish it on your own.

297 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:56:14am

For those LOST fans... any input on last nights episode?

298 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:56:15am

re: #287 tradewind

Nummy. And just think, I peeked at the post title and thought ' this would not be a very fun thread '. Boy was I wrong...//

Got something for you.

299 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:56:21am

re: #296 MandyManners

You can always publish it on your own.

I do have some leads on publishers, but self publishing has been on the table as well.
I'm pretty excited to go down saying before I croaked I wrote a novel...or 3.

300 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:57:24am

re: #299 Oh no...Sand People!

I do have some leads on publishers, but self publishing has been on the table as well.
I'm pretty excited to go down saying before I croaked I wrote a novel...or 3.

Not many can say that.

301 Obdicut  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:57:35am

re: #292 Shiplord Kirel

Atticus was pretty glad he was being covered with a shotgun, even if Scout saved the day.

302 darthstar  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:57:42am

re: #269 Jeff In Ohio

C'mon, sonny, never met one person who knew who Killing Joke was? What next, who were the Buzzcocks?

I love the Buzzcocks...and you'd be surprised at how few people know them.

303 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:58:37am

re: #300 MandyManners

Not many can say that.

Three years in the works of just hobby time, so I am pretty happy overall.

304 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:59:34am

Saudi-Funded Fox News Rejects Ad Arguing Against Middle East Oil Dependence


Last week, progressive veterans organization VoteVets.org released an ad arguing that “a clean energy climate plan would cut our dependence on foreign oil in half and cut oil profits for hostile nations.” The ad asserts that “every day, Iran gets $100 million richer selling oil around the world and peddling hate.”

While CNN and MSNBC have aired the ad, Fox News is refusing to do so. Politico reports Fox apparently found the ad “too confusing.” Watch the “confusing” ad:

Youtube Video
305 tradewind  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:00:44pm

re: #298 MandyManners
Wow. Did someone lose their sarc tag?
Sadly, it appears not.
Strange things pop up now and then. I just saw that someone whose nic is demin spelled backwards ( just to keep on topic of the thread) yesterday accused me of possessing an untreatable criminal tendency .
:)

306 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:00:56pm

bbiab

307 Four More Tears  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:01:32pm

re: #304 Killgore Trout

Saudi-Funded Fox News Rejects Ad Arguing Against Middle East Oil Dependence


[Video]

Yeah, confusing. They need Glenn's blackboard to make sense of it.

308 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:02:12pm

re: #307 JasonA

Yeah, confusing. They need Glenn's blackboard to make sense of it.

It's a seeekrit communist plot!

309 webevintage  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:02:17pm

re: #297 Walter L. Newton

For those LOST fans... any input on last nights episode?


I can't discuss it yet as I am still in mourning....

310 lawhawk  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:02:48pm

re: #297 Walter L. Newton

Yes.

Youtube Video

More dying, less lying. And it's becoming all too clear that Locke is Esau to the soon to be "successor" / Jacob.

311 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:02:57pm

re: #304 Killgore Trout

Saudi-Funded Fox News Rejects Ad Arguing Against Middle East Oil Dependence

[Video]

Ah, So Fox is resorting to the "Fucking Magnets" defense.

312 Four More Tears  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:02:59pm

re: #309 webevintage

I can't discuss it yet as I am still in mourning...

Hush, you! It's waiting for me on the DVR.

313 Spider Mensch  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:03:55pm

re: #301 Obdicut

Atticus was pretty glad he was being covered with a shotgun, even if Scout saved the day.

"Hey Mr Cunninham!..I said "Hey" Mr Cunninham..it's me..Jean Louise Finch! I go to school with your boy Walter..he's a good boy! How's yer entailment coming along?..."

though if I remember, Atticus was just sitting there reading his book outside the jail cell..no shotgun needed for a guy like Atticus.

314 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:04:30pm

re: #312 JasonA

Hush, you! It's waiting for me on the DVR.

I'm just waiting to see which 2 cast members end up as the skeletons they found in the cave back in Season 1.

315 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:04:49pm

Later folks. Assistance with homework calls me.

316 lawhawk  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:05:18pm

Heh. Taliban group denies link to Shahzad, claiming that their terrorists get results.

Yeah, results like murdering civilians. Nice results there.

317 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:06:15pm

re: #309 webevintage

re: #310 lawhawk

My "theory" to how the rest of the show plays out...

A theory… “The End.”

Some ruminations on the possible outcome of the whole series. The sideways timeline is an anomaly, it wasn’t meant to happen, but it did because of The Incident. It’s a “satisfying” timeline, certain people have what they want, others have the possibilities of obtaining what they want and the remaining characters are secure in what they already have. The most important aspect of the sideways timeline, our favorite characters are still alive.

The Island is a “harsh mistress,” and those who are chosen to “protect” it have to make decisions way beyond their own personal interests. Jack has been chosen, and before the very end, all of our beloved characters in the original timeline will be dead, sans Jack and the constant to the sideways timeline, Desmond.

Jack will have to make a decision, kill the MIB, become the new protector of The Island (protecting it for what purpose, we will find out), let the sideways timeline collapse and go “poof” out of existence, or continue, with all his “friends” still alive and well in an alternate reality. The biggest decision he will have to make is loosing his relationship with his son in the sideways timeline.

In a sense, I believe the ending will will be totally in Jack’s control… accept destiny or try to cheat fate in order to “save” his friends.

318 drcordell  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:06:43pm

God I'm getting sick of these fundamentalist assholes. The last thing Africans need is a bunch of paternalistic assholes forcing religion on them.

319 webevintage  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:07:03pm

re: #312 JasonA

Hush, you! It's waiting for me on the DVR.

No spoilers...but we all know a few folks are gonna die.
Sacrifice is a noble way to be go, but that does not mean I have to like it.

320 MrSilverDragon  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:07:14pm

I know I'm late to the party here, and it's probably been said one way or the other, but here's my $.02 on this matter.

To those people spending all that money to defeat a constitution of a foreign country, why not focus on things here at home instead of trying to subvert the politics of said country?

And... Hey Pat, if you think a deity is talking to you, it's probably schizophrenia. Maybe you should see a doctor.

321 drcordell  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:07:36pm

re: #316 lawhawk

Heh. Taliban group denies link to Shahzad, claiming that their terrorists get results.

Yeah, results like murdering civilians. Nice results there.

If I were a terrorist group I certainly wouldn't want his dumb ass affiliated with my organization.

322 tradewind  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:08:36pm

re: #297 Walter L. Newton
How many more do we have, three?
I just saw where they have embiggened the finale for an extra half hour.
Jack worried me for jut a little while last night.

323 drcordell  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:08:57pm

re: #320 MrSilverDragon

I know I'm late to the party here, and it's probably been said one way or the other, but here's my $.02 on this matter.

To those people spending all that money to defeat a constitution of a foreign country, why not focus on things here at home instead of trying to subvert the politics of said country?

And... Hey Pat, if you think a deity is talking to you, it's probably schizophrenia. Maybe you should see a doctor.

They're going elsewhere because our Constitution has so far rejected their best efforts to pervert it. Getting in on the ground floor of a poorer nation much more susceptible to outside political money is much easier.

324 tradewind  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:10:26pm

re: #317 Walter L. Newton
But Desmond.... isn't that his job?
I just wanna know if Widmore is an evildoer or a good guy, in the end.
I've never been a fan of John Locke, from day one, so Flocke or Mocke or whoever hasn't bothered me.

325 Obdicut  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:11:21pm

re: #313 Spider Mensch

The newspaper guy was covering him with a shotgun from a window.

326 lawhawk  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:12:12pm

re: #317 Walter L. Newton

Agreed, except for the last part, because it appears that Jack has already accepted fate - particularly in how he wanted to deal with last night's situation vis a vis Ricardo on the Black Rock.

327 tradewind  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:12:49pm

re: #318 drcordell
If you look at the history of religion in Africa, Christian and other indigenous ones as well, no one has ever had to force fundamentalism..... it's been alive and well, in many various forms.

328 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:13:39pm

re: #322 tradewind

How many more do we have, three?
I just saw where they have embiggened the finale for an extra half hour.
Jack worried me for jut a little while last night.

re: #324 tradewind

But Desmond... isn't that his job?
I just wanna know if Widmore is an evildoer or a good guy, in the end.
I've never been a fan of John Locke, from day one, so Flocke or Mocke or whoever hasn't bothered me.

Three more regular season episodes then the 2 1/2 hour finally. The next episode is called "Across the Sea" and will contain ALL NEW CHARACTERS... it appears to be the backstory of The Island itself and the MIB.

My theory is only that, a theory, I may be totally off base, but it seems a reasonable possibility.

329 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:13:51pm

I still have yet to see even one episode of Lost. Justified was great last night and it's been renewed for a second season.

330 tradewind  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:13:54pm

re: #317 Walter L. Newton
How do you kill a column of black smoke with superpowers?
That's gonna take some thought.

331 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:14:49pm

re: #330 tradewind

How do you kill a column of black smoke with superpowers?
That's gonna take some thought.

Love.

332 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:15:15pm

To work... see you all later...

333 tradewind  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:15:51pm

re: #328 Walter L. Newton
We don't need no stinkin' new characters!
We need more fleshing out of some who have been around a while, IMO.
If Darlton is doing this just to pay homage to some stars who want in on the last few eps, it's gonna tick me off.

334 darthstar  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:16:23pm

re: #318 drcordell

God I'm getting sick of these fundamentalist assholes. The last thing Africans need is a bunch of paternalistic assholes forcing religion on them.

Paternalistic assholes have been forcing Christianity on them for over 400 years...so we can at least take comfort in knowing they haven't completely lost yet.

335 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:16:47pm

re: #332 Walter L. Newton

To work... see you all later...

4078
4589
4590
etc.
/

336 drcordell  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:16:56pm

re: #327 tradewind

If you look at the history of religion in Africa, Christian and other indigenous ones as well, no one has ever had to force fundamentalism... it's been alive and well, in many various forms.

Right. Except for the part where religious fundamentalists from the US are pushing to change Kenya's Constitution.

337 Cato the Elder  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:17:56pm

re: #223 Oh no...Sand People!

I couldn't handle the verbal assaults on how horrible the substance is.

I do not insult clients. I make their work better.

338 Spider Mensch  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:18:22pm

re: #325 Obdicut

The newspaper guy was covering him with a shotgun from a window.


that's right, I forgot about the newspaper guy....very good...I owe you one chiffarobe busting up!

339 darthstar  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:18:30pm

re: #336 drcordell

Right. Except for the part where religious fundamentalists from the US are pushing to change Kenya's Constitution.

That's just payback because they blame Kenya for President Obama.
/(I wish that was snark, but the way these fundies think, anything is possible.)

340 Obdicut  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:19:42pm

re: #338 Spider Mensch

I just have a freakish memory for text and narrative. To your point, Atticus didn't know he was being covered by the newspaperman until after the incident was over, so his bravery is still intact.

341 drcordell  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:20:37pm

re: #339 darthstar

That's just payback because they blame Kenya for President Obama.
/(I wish that was snark, but the way these fundies think, anything is possible.)

Hahahaha I didn't even think of that angle. At this point the absurdity has grown so nuts in the right-wing fever swamps that it's almost impossible to discount any idea, no matter how insane.

342 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:20:40pm

Osama bin Laden is in Washington, says Ahmadinejad

Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Wednesday denied recent press reports that Osama bin Laden is in Tehran and insisted that the Al-Qaeda leader is, in fact, in the US capital of Washington.

"Rest assured that he's in Washington. I think there's a high chance he's there," the Iranian leader told ABC television in an interview.

Without backing up the claim, the Iranian leader said he had "heard" that bin Laden was in the US capital.

"Yes, I did. He's there. Because he was a previous partner of Mr. Bush," he said referring to former president George W. Bush.

"They were colleagues, in fact, in the old days. You know that. They were in the oil business together. They worked together. Mr. bin Laden never cooperated with Iran but he cooperated with Mr. Bush," Ahmadinejad said.

He added that, at any rate, US officials ought to know the extremist Islamic leaders whereabouts.

"The US government has invaded Afghanistan in order to arrest bin Laden. They probably know where bin Laden is. If they don't know he is, why did they invade? Could we know the intelligence?" he asked ABC.

"First they should have tried to find his location, then invade, those who did not know about his location first they invaded and then they tried to find out where he is, is that logical?"
Click here to find out more!

I guess DC Lizardoids should keep their eyes open just in case.

343 tradewind  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:21:25pm

re: #316 lawhawk
I wish they'd quit running that mug shot/photo of him.
You know, I bet there are a whole lot of deserving Hispanic citizens-in-waiting who would have been better candidates for his naturalization papers..... I can think of a few right now.

344 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:21:58pm

re: #342 Shiplord Kirel

Osama bin Laden is in Washington, says Ahmadinejad

I guess DC Lizardoids should keep their eyes open just in case.

FBV is in Virginia, Mad Al-Jaffe is in Baltimore. I think Cato is in the area. We're covered!!!

345 tradewind  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:22:22pm

re: #336 drcordell
Well, as spongebob would say to them, ' Good luck with that'.
Somehow I doubt they'll have much impact in the long run.... although they might try to claim otherwise.

346 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:23:45pm

re: #345 tradewind

Well, as spongebob would say to them, ' Good luck with that'.
Somehow I doubt they'll have much impact in the long run... although they might try to claim otherwise.

I certainly hope they remember their friends at LGF when they collect the reward....

347 MrSilverDragon  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:23:46pm

re: #342 Shiplord Kirel

Osama bin Laden is in Washington, says Ahmadinejad

I guess DC Lizardoids should keep their eyes open just in case.

I've got my eyes wide open here on the border of DC in MD. No Osama sightings yet... but I did see a homeless man peeing in the alleyway behind our building. Lucky me. :/

348 drcordell  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:23:49pm

re: #345 tradewind

Well, as spongebob would say to them, ' Good luck with that'.
Somehow I doubt they'll have much impact in the long run... although they might try to claim otherwise.

I have no doubt they'll be able to have an impact. They have money, and influence that can help them reach high levels of government.

349 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:25:21pm

re: #318 drcordell

God I'm getting sick of these fundamentalist assholes. The last thing Africans need is a bunch of paternalistic assholes forcing religion on them.

Yeah. Islam out of Somalia!

350 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:25:29pm

re: #344 Cannadian Club Akbar

FBV is in Virginia, Mad Al-Jaffe is in Baltimore. I think Cato is in the area. We're covered!!!

I work in DC and live closer to DC than Baltimore. My band is based in Baltimore though.

351 tradewind  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:25:32pm

re: #344 Cannadian Club Akbar
That's bull shiite. Every one knows he's been living on the ranch in Crawford, in a bunkhouse...(not a bunker) .

352 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:26:13pm

Shit. Gotta run!! bbiab.

353 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:26:49pm

re: #342 Shiplord Kirel

Osama bin Laden is in Washington, says Ahmadinejad


I guess DC Lizardoids should keep their eyes open just in case.

I think I know where all the hash that is not being sold in Egypt has wound up.

354 tradewind  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:28:44pm

re: #349 MandyManners
I think the pirates have them on the run....

Youtube Video
355 lawhawk  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:29:28pm

re: #351 tradewind

That's bull shiite. Every one knows he's been living on the ranch in Crawford, in a bunkhouse...(not a bunker) .

Nonsense. He's a NYC cabbie. Everyone knows that. Everyone. //////////

356 tradewind  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:32:24pm

re: #346 Shiplord Kirel
Oh, I don't think they're lookin' for an earthly reward....//

357 RogueOne  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:33:33pm

re: #302 darthstar

I love the Buzzcocks...and you'd be surprised at how few people know them.

If anyone here would know I could have guessed you and Jeff.

Youtube Video
358 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:34:59pm

re: #354 tradewind

I think the pirates have them on the run...

[Video]

From what I've read, it's the other way around.

359 engineer cat  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:36:11pm

re: #318 drcordell

God I'm getting sick of these fundamentalist assholes. The last thing Africans need is a bunch of paternalistic assholes forcing religion on them.

certainly, 'paternalistic' is the word for it. and this also applies of course to the attitude about their own culture that europeans and americans bring with them

here's something interesting, though -in pat robertson's book, the new world order, in the middle of the omnium gatherum of conspiracy theories and farragoes of nonsense, including his own version of the 'white man's burden', pat breaks out with a very sensible and worthy denunciation of the replacement of the african subsistance economy with fragile and inappropriate commercial farming because of pressure from american corporations! huh!

360 darthstar  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:36:40pm

re: #353 MandyManners

I think I know where all the hash that is not being sold in Egypt has wound up.

Hash is lovely...

361 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:37:25pm

re: #354 tradewind

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

362 MrSilverDragon  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:37:54pm

re: #360 darthstar

Hash is lovely...

Unless it's corned beef hash. I can't stand the taste of that stuff.

363 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:38:32pm

re: #360 darthstar

Hash is lovely...

And, the smell! The taste!

Man, growing up sucks.

364 wrenchwench  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:38:52pm

re: #357 RogueOne

If anyone here would know I could have guessed you and Jeff.

Wouldn't guess me, would you.

Youtube Video

(Bratwurst might have.)

365 drcordell  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:38:55pm

re: #349 MandyManners

Yeah. Islam out of Somalia!

Unlike you, I draw little distinction between crazed Christian fundamentalists and crazed Islamic fundamentalists.

366 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:39:09pm

re: #362 MrSilverDragon

Unless it's corned beef hash. I can't stand the taste of that stuff.

Or, the sight of it.

367 darthstar  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:39:11pm

re: #363 MandyManners

And, the smell! The taste!

Man, growing up sucks.

Indeed...oh well, we still have memories.

368 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:39:42pm

re: #362 MrSilverDragon

Unless it's corned beef hash. I can't stand the taste of that stuff.

I love corned beef hash covered in a million eggs!
Don't be hating!

369 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:40:13pm

re: #365 drcordell

Unlike you, I draw little distinction between crazed Christian fundamentalists and crazed Islamic fundamentalists.

That's a mighty asinine assumption.

370 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:40:36pm

re: #367 darthstar

Indeed...oh well, we still have memories.

We do? You must not have smoked as much as I.

371 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:41:14pm

re: #302 darthstar

I love the Buzzcocks...and you'd be surprised at how few people know them.

Wait, are you saying it's not 1980 anymore? I get that the notoriety of 70's 1st and 2nd wave punk bands are not in ascendence, but few is a lot more then none. Killing Joke has got to be more recognizable then say...oh...Squirrel Bait or MDC or 7 Seconds or SS20 or -insert 2nd wave American punk rock band here-.

372 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:42:04pm

re: #292 Shiplord Kirel

That is the most revolting thing I have ever seen, even after a year in Vietnam and 10 months in Iraq.

Barbarism like this is a big part of the reason I own guns. Don't delude yourselves that it can't happen here, either. Equally barbaric lynchings happened in this country within living memory and people like this are capable of anything when they have the mob and their dogma to hide behind.

Read about the orphanges where all the cast out and burned children who have survived are housed, how it is impossible to find them a home because they are "witches."

If religious fanaticism can make people burn their own children, pour acid on them, or attack them with machetes because they are "child witches" you have to wonder just what type of "Christianty" they are being taught.

The fact that they continue to give money and support to these people who absolutely pervert Christianity tells you exactly how much they care about the message of Christ.

373 tradewind  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:42:46pm

re: #365 drcordell
Well, that's your right, but until a bunch of Krazy kristian kreationists take over three or so commercial airliners and plow 'em into a major metropolitan center of commerce, ...I .....and many others....will.

374 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:43:53pm

re: #373 tradewind

Well, that's your right, but until a bunch of Krazy kristian kreationists take over three or so commercial airliners and plow 'em into a major metropolitan center of commerce, ...I ...and many others...will.

BIGOT!

375 Vicious Babushka  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:43:57pm

re: #365 drcordell

Unlike you, I draw little distinction between crazed Christian fundamentalists and crazed Islamic fundamentalists.

They both provide "valuable social services."

/

376 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:44:15pm

re: #375 Alouette

They both provide "valuable social services."

/

SCORE!

377 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:45:03pm

re: #357 RogueOne

Classic.

378 Spare O'Lake  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:45:37pm

re: #370 MandyManners

We do? You must not have smoked as much as I.

Smoked whut?

379 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:46:19pm

re: #65 Renaissance_Man

Wow, Redstate has gone off the rails. They're salivating over there at the prospect of righteous violence when the 'left' comes after them with liberal terrorist death squads after they win back power in 2010/12. I wish I was exaggerating.

Gotta love basement dwellers and their power fantasies!

380 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:46:37pm

re: #363 MandyManners

And, the smell! The taste!

Man, growing up sucks.

Yeah, all my connections have moved away and the kids are convinced I work for the man. My godson has just turned 21 and has promised to hook me up.

Does that make me bad?

381 Locker  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:47:15pm

re: #380 Jeff In Ohio

Yeah, all my connections have moved away and the kids are convinced I work for the man. My godson has just turned 21 and has promised to hook me up.

Does that make me bad?

If you become Jeff in California you can skip the middle man.

382 tradewind  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:47:22pm

re: #374 MandyManners
Can't help it, I have this deficiency of moral equivalency. Trying supplements, but still.....
:)

383 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:47:40pm

re: #378 Spare O'Lake

Smoked whut?

Haisssh.

384 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:48:26pm

re: #380 Jeff In Ohio

Yeah, all my connections have moved away and the kids are convinced I work for the man. My godson has just turned 21 and has promised to hook me up.

Does that make me bad?

I can see the headlines now.

OLD OHIO GEEZER GETS GRANDSON TO HOOK HIM UP WITH HASH!

385 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:49:01pm

re: #379 WindUpBird

Gotta love basement dwellers and their power fantasies!

I am Emperor, there will be no condiments and all my subjects shall tithe me 1 oz. of hashish a day for 3 months of every year. I will smoke it and enjoy my dry sandwich while I fly on my winged Unicorn!

386 Slap  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:49:01pm

re: #173 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

SNL with Michael O'Donoghue as writer: Great more often than not
SNL without him: the opposite.

Greatest unpraised cast: Shearer/Short/Quaid/Crystal/Guest.

"I HATE it when dat happens...."

387 RogueOne  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:49:01pm

David Obey is done:
[Link: www.politico.com...]

This election cycle is looking uglier by the day for the dems.

388 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:49:53pm

re: #380 Jeff In Ohio

Yeah, all my connections have moved away and the kids are convinced I work for the man. My godson has just turned 21 and has promised to hook me up.

Does that make me bad?

BTW, thanks again for this link.

Youtube Video
389 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:50:09pm

re: #382 tradewind

Can't help it, I have this deficiency of moral equivalency. Trying supplements, but still...
:)

Glucosamine?

390 RogueOne  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:50:16pm

re: #364 wrenchwench

No, but I will now.

391 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:50:22pm

re: #259 darthstar

hey...you like Killing Joke? I've never met anyone who knew who they were...loved their stuff when I was a kid.

Gigantic Killing Joke fan here. Wore out my copy of Pandemonium in the 90's, and salavating for the Portland concert in December.

If you don't have Hosannas From The Basement of Hell, get it, it's completely righteous :D Also, check out a band called Course of Empire, they're sorta along KJ's lines, with some Hendrix-esque guitar tossed in.

392 drcordell  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:50:40pm

re: #380 Jeff In Ohio

Yeah, all my connections have moved away and the kids are convinced I work for the man. My godson has just turned 21 and has promised to hook me up.

Does that make me bad?

I believe that sort of connection is exactly why godparents were invented in the first place.

393 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:50:46pm

re: #385 Jeff In Ohio

I am Emperor, there will be no condiments and all my subjects shall tithe me 1 oz. of hashish a day for 3 months of every year. I will smoke it and enjoy my dry sandwich while I fly on my winged Unicorn!

No condoms?

Oh, wait.

394 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:51:09pm

re: #381 Locker

If you become Jeff in California you can skip the middle man.

Oh believe me, I'm most likely looking at old age with Alzheimer's and I'm considering my options.

395 MandyManners  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:51:16pm

Gotta' git.

396 Renaissance_Man  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:51:42pm

re: #373 tradewind

Well, that's your right, but until a bunch of Krazy kristian kreationists take over three or so commercial airliners and plow 'em into a major metropolitan center of commerce, ...I ...and many others...will.

Yeah, I must agree, I'm not one for drawing false equivalencies. The rhetoric and hypocrisy in the so-called Christian far right may be ugly and vicious, and the practice of so-called Christianity as it is in Africa may in some places be violent and murderous, but as far as mass oppression and murder in the name of religion goes, modern fundamentalist Islam can be objectively said to be worse. They may stem from the same misshapen root, but that doesn't make them equivalent.

Much as it is disingenuous to claim equivalency between the ugly rhetoric of today's Tea Party cultists and 'the left', there's no real equivalency here.

397 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:51:43pm

re: #384 MandyManners

I can see the headlines now.

OLD OHIO GEEZER GETS GRANDSON TO HOOK HIM UP WITH HASH!

Hey I'm not old!

398 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:52:20pm

re: #388 MandyManners

You are eternally welcome.

399 Locker  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:52:21pm

re: #394 Jeff In Ohio

Oh believe me, I'm most likely looking at old age with Alzheimer's and I'm considering my options.

Well the good thing is with a supply of the proper quality you'll forget you have Alzheimer's.

400 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:52:26pm

O/T but i agree with Cole on this:

I hope these people go to hell.

401 drcordell  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:53:02pm

re: #373 tradewind

Well, that's your right, but until a bunch of Krazy kristian kreationists take over three or so commercial airliners and plow 'em into a major metropolitan center of commerce, ...I ...and many others...will.

There's plenty of killing that occurs in the name of Jesus Christ every day.

402 drcordell  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:54:12pm

re: #396 Renaissance_Man

Yeah, I must agree, I'm not one for drawing false equivalencies. The rhetoric and hypocrisy in the so-called Christian far right may be ugly and vicious, and the practice of so-called Christianity as it is in Africa may in some places be violent and murderous, but as far as mass oppression and murder in the name of religion goes, modern fundamentalist Islam can be objectively said to be worse. They may stem from the same misshapen root, but that doesn't make them equivalent.

Much as it is disingenuous to claim equivalency between the ugly rhetoric of today's Tea Party cultists and 'the left', there's no real equivalency here.

I definitely agree with you, but the fact that Fundamentalist Islam is ostensibly worse doesn't make Fundamentalist Christianity any less terrible.

403 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:54:42pm

re: #396 Renaissance_Man

Difference is, fundamentalist islam doesn't have access to the corridors of power in America, doesn't have access to presidents and the ability to sway public opinion with front groups and megachurches and television stations, fundamentalist Christians do.

Two different threats that can't be compared. May as well compare Ted Bundy to Love Canal, arguing that because Ted Bundy existed, we should worry less about superfund sites.

404 tradewind  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:54:49pm

re: #380 Jeff In Ohio
You might want to update your use of ' hook me up ' before you talk to him...
:)

405 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:55:32pm

re: #399 Locker

There is that, but the other thing is recent rat studies at U of Ohio have shown cannabis to slow the advancement of Alzheimer's (in rats). It seems the cannabinoid (or what ever the fuck it is called) plugs the hole the Alzheimer's plaque wants to fill. Or something like that.

You know that and I like to get high. Does that make me bad?

406 wrenchwench  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:56:09pm

re: #403 WindUpBird

Two different threats that can't be compared. May as well compare Ted Bundy to Love Canal, arguing that because Ted Bundy existed, we should worry less about superfund sites.

Now you gotta help me untie these synapses....

407 McSpiff  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:56:29pm

re: #405 Jeff In Ohio

No, no it does not. For a more in depth answer, see locker's eventual reply.

408 Lidane  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:56:35pm

re: #400 Dreggas

O/T but i agree with Cole on this:

I hope these people go to hell.

There's no way I could ever sit through that video. The descriptions are sickening enough.

This is just another reason why the war on drugs has been a failure. What the hell is the point of shooting the pets in front of a child, then dragging her parents off over a misdemeanor's amount of weed? That's just insane to me.

409 Renaissance_Man  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:56:35pm

re: #403 WindUpBird

Difference is, fundamentalist islam doesn't have access to the corridors of power in America, doesn't have access to presidents and the ability to sway public opinion with front groups and megachurches and television stations, fundamentalist Christians do.

Says you, liberal commie Obama cultie. I've seen the logos.

410 drcordell  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:56:52pm

re: #405 Jeff In Ohio

There is that, but the other thing is recent rat studies at U of Ohio have shown cannabis to slow the advancement of Alzheimer's (in rats). It seems the cannabinoid (or what ever the fuck it is called) plugs the hole the Alzheimer's plaque wants to fill. Or something like that.

You know that and I like to get high. Does that make me bad?

As far as methods of intoxication go, I find it to be a much healthier alternative to binge-drinking. Not to mention much healthier for everyone else around you. Can't say I've ever seen someone who was blazed out of their mind smash someone's face in.

411 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:57:30pm

re: #405 Jeff In Ohio

There is that, but the other thing is recent rat studies at U of Ohio have shown cannabis to slow the advancement of Alzheimer's (in rats). It seems the cannabinoid (or what ever the fuck it is called) plugs the hole the Alzheimer's plaque wants to fill. Or something like that.

You know that and I like to get high. Does that make me bad?

I don't judge...
But I know what ever makes a man bad is in his heart..Not his lungs

412 RogueOne  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:58:22pm

re: #400 Dreggas

O/T but i agree with Cole on this:

I hope these people go to hell.

I posted that in this mornings thread. It was difficult to listen to. I hope that video gets spread far and wide.

413 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:58:23pm

re: #409 Renaissance_Man

Says you, liberal commie Obama cultie. I've seen the logos.

Did someone say Cult?

Youtube Video
414 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:58:23pm

re: #410 drcordell

The only crime I've ever seen committed by someone high on pot was shorting the pizza guy on the tip.

415 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:59:15pm

re: #414 Dreggas

The only crime I've ever seen committed by someone high on pot was shorting the pizza guy on the tip.

You mean other than possession?
//

416 drcordell  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:59:16pm

re: #414 Dreggas

The only crime I've ever seen committed by someone high on pot was shorting the pizza guy on the tip.

Hahahaha, and odds are that mistake usually swings the other way. The pizza guy sure ain't walking away with less than the total, but I can't imagine the same result after getting an accidental $20 tip.

417 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:59:18pm

re: #412 RogueOne

I hope so too. I missed it being posted here earlier.

418 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:59:36pm

re: #414 Dreggas

The only crime I've ever seen committed by someone high on pot was shorting the pizza guy on the tip.

Yep, a drunk will run a stop sign; a pot-head will stop and wait for it to turn green.

419 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 5, 2010 12:59:40pm

re: #414 Dreggas

The only crime I've ever seen committed by someone high on pot was shorting the pizza guy on the tip.

Well, there's DUI, but I sure as shit don't drive on the stuff. ;-)

420 tradewind  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:00:03pm

re: #365 drcordell

I draw little distinction between crazed Christian fundamentalists and crazed Islamic fundamentalists.


Yeah, that didn't work out so well recently for the military in vetting their medical officers, did it?

421 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:00:13pm

re: #418 Shiplord Kirel

Yep, a drunk will run a stop sign; a pot-head will stop and wait for it to turn green.

hahahahahahahahahaha win

422 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:00:26pm

re: #413 WindUpBird

Did someone say Cult?

[Video]

I worship Blue Oysters

Youtube Video
423 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:00:55pm

re: #420 tradewind

Yeah, that didn't work out so well recently for the military in vetting their medical officers, did it?

what does any of this have to do with Pat Robertson trying to screw up Kenya, maybe you could splain it ta me

424 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:01:41pm

re: #422 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I saw Blue Oyster Cult when I was young enough my parents had to drive me. it was magnificent *_*

(though I would have liked for them to play Veteran of the Psychic Wars)

425 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:01:43pm

A quote from the video:

“why the fuck did you kill my dog? She was probably trying to play with you?”

I can't watch it myself, I just couldn't but that quote is on of the saddest damn things I think I have ever heard.

426 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:02:35pm

re: #424 WindUpBird

I saw Blue Oyster Cult when I was young enough my parents had to drive me. it was magnificent *_*

(though I would have liked for them to play Veteran of the Psychic Wars)


MORE COWBELL!

427 McSpiff  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:03:08pm

re: #420 tradewind

Yeah, that didn't work out so well recently for the military in vetting their medical officers, did it?

I'd say the problem was letting in crazy people but hey, you can blame Islam if that fits your narrative better. We can sharpie a beard on the dude in full metal jacket too if you'd like.

428 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:03:14pm

re: #416 drcordell

Hahahaha, and odds are that mistake usually swings the other way. The pizza guy sure ain't walking away with less than the total, but I can't imagine the same result after getting an accidental $20 tip.

I love stoners. 5 of them would chip in $10 bucks a pop for pizza which I would offer to pick up, then never wonder how I could still have money to go out with my girlfriend later.

429 darthstar  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:04:13pm

re: #419 WindUpBird

Well, there's DUI, but I sure as shit don't drive on the stuff. ;-)

I found driving on psychedelics to be problematic a few times...don't know how I managed to survive my youth without getting arrested. Waiting for a stoplight to turn green on the freeway was one of my biggest WTF moments...fuckin' thing wasn't there the day before, nor was it there the day after.

430 RogueOne  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:04:14pm

re: #425 Dreggas

A quote from the video:

I can't watch it myself, I just couldn't but that quote is on of the saddest damn things I think I have ever heard.

The video doesn't really show much but the audio is awful. They go in shooting, the dog was in the kitchen behind a gate when they killed it. The dog screaming after being shot is horrific. If there were karma in this world that cops house would have burned down that night.

431 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:04:23pm

AH youtube.
Squirrel Bait, one of the best punk bands of the 80's and fellow Bluegrassers. Skag Heaven (Homestead) is a great record. They do a hardcore version of Phil Och's Tape From California that will have you boomers peeing in your pants.

Youtube Video
432 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:04:50pm

re: #418 Shiplord Kirel


And zone out for a bit missing that it turned green initially until someone honks their horn.

433 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:05:02pm

re: #429 darthstar

I found driving on psychedelics to be problematic a few times...don't know how I managed to survive my youth without getting arrested. Waiting for a stoplight to turn green on the freeway was one of my biggest WTF moments...fuckin' thing wasn't there the day before, nor was it there the day after.

Shit man, everyday I'm amazed I'm still alive.

434 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:05:07pm

re: #428 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I love stoners. 5 of them would chip in $10 bucks a pop for pizza which I would offer to pick up, then never wonder how I could still have money to go out with my girlfriend later.

Hee! I never had these experiences, having mostly hung out with nerds who tossed dice when I was a teenager :D

435 Slap  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:05:29pm

re: #424 WindUpBird

Saw 'em (with Maggie Bell opening - what a voice....) in (go ahead with the rip van winklefest....) '74, the Secret Treaties tour, and then again in '78 or '79 at Baltimore Civic with Rainbow opening. They were effin' brilliant, scorching, in fact.

And they were my first exposure to the wonder that is Patti Smith....

436 McSpiff  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:05:29pm

re: #434 WindUpBird

Hee! I never had these experiences, having mostly hung out with nerds who tossed dice when I was a teenager :D

D&D?

437 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:05:46pm

re: #419 WindUpBird

I did once. I was driving 30mph and thought I was going 80. I never did it again.

438 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:05:46pm

re: #434 WindUpBird

Hee! I never had these experiences, having mostly hung out with nerds who tossed dice when I was a teenager :D

I did both.

439 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:05:48pm

re: #428 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I love stoners. 5 of them would chip in $10 bucks a pop for pizza which I would offer to pick up, then never wonder how I could still have money to go out with my girlfriend later.

Stoners don't need a girlfriend. They got bongs.

440 darthstar  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:06:00pm

re: #434 WindUpBird

Hee! I never had these experiences, having mostly hung out with nerds who tossed dice when I was a teenager :D

Those fuckers own the world now.

441 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:06:56pm

re: #429 darthstar

I found driving on psychedelics to be problematic a few times...don't know how I managed to survive my youth without getting arrested. Waiting for a stoplight to turn green on the freeway was one of my biggest WTF moments...fuckin' thing wasn't there the day before, nor was it there the day after.

hahaha jesus

I got into trouble behind the wheel as a teen, but I was stone cold sober.

I was also driving a 1975 Firebird and going double the speed limit in a rural nowheresville crawling with speed traps :D

442 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:07:35pm

re: #436 McSpiff

D&D?

Actually, Gurps, Call of Cthulhu, and Shadowrun. :D I played a little D&D, but we were way more into sci-fi and horror ^_^

443 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:07:51pm

re: #438 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Same here. Nintendo was always more fun stoned too.

444 MrSilverDragon  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:07:59pm

Well, the level of stupid here in this office has just been raised to the nth power, so on that note I'm going home. Y'all have a good night.

(and if anyone here says that the level is going to drop by the nth power when I leave, you're probably right as well)

445 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:08:05pm

re: #429 darthstar

I found driving on psychedelics to be problematic a few times...don't know how I managed to survive my youth without getting arrested. Waiting for a stoplight to turn green on the freeway was one of my biggest WTF moments...fuckin' thing wasn't there the day before, nor was it there the day after.

Me and a buddy were coming down one time when a clock radio went off in the other room, just playing static. We were both gripped in utter terror for a good five minutes until he asked "Do you hear it to?, then we giggled for about 10 minutes before shutting it off.

446 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:08:43pm

re: #442 WindUpBird

Turbine, the makers of Lord Of The Rings Online, are rumored to be making a Call of Cthulu MMORPG.

447 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:08:47pm

re: #427 McSpiff

I'd say the problem was letting in crazy people but hey, you can blame Islam if that fits your narrative better. We can sharpie a beard on the dude in full metal jacket too if you'd like.

Yeah, the Army needed to fill their diversity quota of crazy people, that's why he kept getting a free pass.
//

448 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:09:48pm

re: #440 darthstar

Those fuckers own the world now.

Some of them are doing well, yes! One of my gamer friends is now in the FBI, another couple work for Microsoft, one's becoming a real estate mogul in Alaska, one's decoding dying languages of native americans, another works for Boeing on Top Secret Shit. I was the one who took the hippie weirdo artist path :D

449 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:10:16pm

re: #442 WindUpBird

Actually, Gurps, Call of Cthulhu, and Shadowrun. :D I played a little D&D, but we were way more into sci-fi and horror ^_^

Back in my heavy gaming days, it was SW:RPG, Cyberpunk, CoC, Vampire, D&D, and Rifts.

450 webevintage  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:10:53pm

re: #328 Walter L. Newton

Three more regular season episodes then the 2 1/2 hour finally. The next episode is called "Across the Sea" and will contain ALL NEW CHARACTERS... it appears to be the backstory of The Island itself and the MIB.

Finally.
Plus any time you get to see Titus Welliver is a good day.

451 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:11:09pm

re: #446 Dreggas

Turbine, the makers of Lord Of The Rings Online, are rumored to be making a Call of Cthulu MMORPG.

I don't do MMOs, but I might do that one. o_o

I loved Dark Corners of the Earth, despite its bugs. If you're patient, it's really a great cthulhu PC game.

452 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:11:16pm

re: #449 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Back in my heavy gaming days, it was SW:RPG, Cyberpunk, CoC, Vampire, D&D, and Rifts.


Advanced D&D First edition, Old Skool, Recognize...

453 lawhawk  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:12:01pm

re: #440 darthstar

*We* wish.

When not playing D&D, it was Axis and Allies and Risk (beware the Kamchatka gambit).

454 tradewind  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:12:19pm

re: #423 WindUpBird
I'll have to get in line if you're playing ' topic cop'. Lots ahead of me.

455 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:13:20pm

re: #453 lawhawk

*We* wish.

When not playing D&D, it was Axis and Allies and Risk (beware the Kamchatka gambit).

I bought a Risk clone for my ipod touch. Play it all the time. Great fun!

456 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:13:29pm

re: #449 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Back in my heavy gaming days, it was SW:RPG, Cyberpunk, CoC, Vampire, D&D, and Rifts.

Gah, I played Vampire too. How could I forget my old character that was totally based on Nivek Ogre... that was greta because it really was just everyone screwing each other, the players were all each others' worst enemies...

457 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:13:38pm

re: #452 rwdflynavy

Advanced D&D First edition, Old Skool, Recognize...

Had all the 1st edition stuff, 2d edition for most of the time. 3rd edition on, it all became more about number crunching than fun, so left it behind.

458 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:13:55pm

re: #454 tradewind

I'll have to get in line if you're playing ' topic cop'. Lots ahead of me.

the topic is now dice tossing

459 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:14:10pm

re: #453 lawhawk

*We* wish.

When not playing D&D, it was Axis and Allies and Risk (beware the Kamchatka gambit).

Mech Warrior!
BTW Avatar completely ripped off the whole concept of MW.

460 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:14:28pm

re: #455 rwdflynavy

I bought a Risk clone for my ipod touch. Play it all the time. Great fun!

Oh crap, I might have to get that, what's it called?

462 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:15:01pm

re: #460 WindUpBird

Oh crap, I might have to get that, what's it called?

Conquest. One of the few apps I actually paid for.

463 Lidane  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:15:21pm

On the bright side, at least he wasn't going to faux lesbian bondage clubs:

Lieutenant governor tied to GOP-paid expenses for Disney tours

The Florida Republican Party spent more than $9,500 on special Disney World tours for Lt. Gov. Jeff Kottkamp and others in the summer of 2008, according to credit card bills obtained by The Miami Herald and The St. Petersburg Times.

The outings were part of roughly $47,000 in expenses charged that year to the American Express card held by the former executive director of the state party, Jim Rimes, and tied to Kottkamp. Handwritten notes on the bills describe the amusement park costs as ``Lt. Gov. Disney trip.''

Kottkamp said he went to Disney with donors and their families. But party spokeswoman Katie Betta said Tuesday that the Disney charges were not associated with a fundraiser nor other official party business.

The party is undergoing an audit to uncover any wrongdoing by high-ranking legislators and staff who used the credit cards under former chairman Jim Greer.

``This is an example of the type of expense our forensic investigators are looking into to determine if additional documentation does exist that would confirm that the Disney expenses were in fact related to RPOF business,'' Betta said in an e-mail.

464 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:15:26pm

re: #456 WindUpBird

Gah, I played Vampire too. How could I forget my old character that was totally based on Nivek Ogre... that was greta because it really was just everyone screwing each other, the players were all each others' worst enemies...

Yeah, I kept playing a Nosferatu with high Obfuscate. I would fuck with the other players all the time.

465 Spare O'Lake  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:15:30pm

re: #427 McSpiff

I'd say the problem was letting in crazy people but hey, you can blame Islam if that fits your narrative better. We can sharpie a beard on the dude in full metal jacket too if you'd like.

You still stuck on the lone-wolf crazy meme for the Ft. Hood Islamofascist? Wow, talk about denial.

466 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:15:41pm

re: #458 WindUpBird

the topic is now dice tossing

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467 McSpiff  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:16:20pm

re: #447 rwdflynavy

Yeah, the Army needed to fill their diversity quota of crazy people, that's why he kept getting a free pass.
//

My dealings with the US DOD was limited to getting a security clearance, but that process did not strike me as 'quota based' or 'politically correct' in the least. All I've heard in this case is vague butthurt mumbles of "PC police gone wild!". If you can point to anything showing this to be something other than a general management failure of an army feeling the strain of supplying personnel to multiple theaters of conflict, I'd love to hear it.

468 tradewind  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:16:40pm

re: #458 WindUpBird
You gonna let that slide?/
Okay, I know. The dice were imported from Kenya, and fundamentalists want to ban them.

469 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:17:01pm

re: #466 Mad Al-Jaffee

Image: 389237471v1_225x225_Front.jpg

They see me rolling, they hating, can't you see that I GM dirty

470 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:17:03pm

re: #462 rwdflynavy

Conquest. One of the few apps I actually paid for.

I paid for ipod Q*Bert! it's sorta hard to control on the ipod, sadly.

471 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:17:44pm

re: #464 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Yeah, I kept playing a Nosferatu with high Obfuscate. I would fuck with the other players all the time.

I'M BEHIND YOU

I'M NOT

OH WAIT I AM

472 Obdicut  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:18:50pm

re: #471 WindUpBird

Level 5 Auspex means never having to leave the house.

473 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:19:33pm

re: #461 Killgore Trout

God, Limbaugh has just gone full Klan, hasn't he

I guess whatever pays the bills!

474 McSpiff  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:19:39pm

Anyways folks, steaks are coming in off the BBQ. Catch ya later.

475 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:21:26pm

re: #471 WindUpBird

I'M BEHIND YOU

I'M NOT

OH WAIT I AM

More like "Does anyone else have a problem with the 7' tall humanoid bat making everyone see him as one the the Laker girls?"

476 Spare O'Lake  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:21:55pm

re: #474 McSpiff

Anyways folks, steaks are coming in off the BBQ. Catch ya later.

If they're coming in on their own then they might be a bit too rare.

477 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:22:16pm

Did anyone else get a call from Newt Gingrich's minions selling his new Reagan movie? It was, um, pretty strange. Newt is concerned with our march to socialism, unfortunately seems he's been employing cold callers from the Testicle Resting On The Chin Party, and um, she weren't to up on the 'issues' and didn't really know to much about the middle class (I is one).

478 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:22:21pm

re: #472 Obdicut

Level 5 Auspex means never having to leave the house.

we're such nerds!

I was all about Presence, because I was playing a vampire rock star, it was all so Anne Rice :D

479 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:22:54pm

re: #475 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

More like "Does anyone else have a problem with the 7' tall humanoid bat making everyone see him as one the the Laker girls?"

hahahahahahahahahaha dying

480 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:23:27pm

re: #467 McSpiff

My dealings with the US DOD was limited to getting a security clearance, but that process did not strike me as 'quota based' or 'politically correct' in the least. All I've heard in this case is vague butthurt mumbles of "PC police gone wild!". If you can point to anything showing this to be something other than a general management failure of an army feeling the strain of supplying personnel to multiple theaters of conflict, I'd love to hear it.

Diversity is big business in the military, have no doubt.

Naval Academy Professor Challenges Rising Diversity

481 Spare O'Lake  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:23:47pm

re: #447 rwdflynavy

Yeah, the Army needed to fill their diversity quota of crazy people, that's why he kept getting a free pass.
//

The Jihad denial makes the AGW denial look tame.

482 webevintage  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:23:51pm

re: #408 Lidane

There's no way I could ever sit through that video. The descriptions are sickening enough.

This is just another reason why the war on drugs has been a failure. What the hell is the point of shooting the pets in front of a child, then dragging her parents off over a misdemeanor's amount of weed? That's just insane to me.

I can't watch it.
This was all over a bit of pot?
Speechless.

483 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:23:54pm

re: #478 WindUpBird

we're such nerds!

I was all about Presence, because I was playing a vampire rock star, it was all so Anne Rice :D

I played a Caitiff for a while too, I only took Celery, Fortitude and Potence. Tough bastard.

484 Renaissance_Man  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:23:58pm

re: #472 Obdicut

Level 5 Auspex means never having to leave the house.

Ah, gamers.

I know a guy who, on his first day at a new job, stood proudly on his desk and looked out over the cubicles and proclaimed, 'I'm bisexual, and I don't care who knows!'

However, it wasn't until three weeks later that he worked up the courage to quietly approach one other guy at the water cooler and say, 'um, I may be guessing, but - um - I think you're ah, uh, a... gamer... and, well, I am too...'

485 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:24:06pm

re: #478 WindUpBird

we're such nerds!

I was all about Presence, because I was playing a vampire rock star, it was all so Anne Rice :D

You guys are making me uncomfortable. Fix that.

486 tradewind  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:24:34pm

re: #465 Spare O'Lake
Guy left a trail of ranting and correspondence a mile long for years that hopefully, if seen as a pattern in the future will be flagged.
He didn't hear voices: he was following guidelines. The ideal would be for doctors in the military who are also of muslim faith to report anyone among them who shows and espouses signs of radicalism before any harm results.

487 Obdicut  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:24:56pm

re: #478 WindUpBird

I never actually played it. I did GM it or storyteller it or whatever the shit for some friends of mine, but discovered the combat system sucks daddy-bags.

Whatever happened to Gamma World?

488 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:25:16pm

re: #484 Renaissance_Man

Ah, gamers.

I know a guy who, on his first day at a new job, stood proudly on his desk and looked out over the cubicles and proclaimed, 'I'm bisexual, and I don't care who knows!'

However, it wasn't until three weeks later that he worked up the courage to quietly approach one other guy at the water cooler and say, 'um, I may be guessing, but - um - I think you're ah, uh, a... gamer... and, well, I am too...'

hee!

Furtive midnight rendezvous at seedy bars with a satchel filled with Battletech minis...

489 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:26:02pm

re: #485 Jeff In Ohio

You guys are making me uncomfortable. Fix that.

He had a werewolf minion as well!

Also a badass van conversion that was mad-maxed to all hell :D

490 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:26:11pm

re: #479 WindUpBird

hahahahahahahahahaha dying

No one realized I was playing a Nosferatu (other than the GM of course) until the first fight.

491 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:27:34pm

re: #487 Obdicut

I never actually played it. I did GM it or storyteller it or whatever the shit for some friends of mine, but discovered the combat system sucks daddy-bags.

Whatever happened to Gamma World?


Villians and Vigilantes, Top Secret, Traveller

492 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:28:06pm

re: #487 Obdicut

I never actually played it. I did GM it or storyteller it or whatever the shit for some friends of mine, but discovered the combat system sucks daddy-bags.

Whatever happened to Gamma World?

The original was from the 70's, but I think WOTC owns the rights now. Should still be doing new editions, i think? I'm sort of out of the loop for what's happening in the paper and dice RPG field, I still play, but weve been doing our own homebrew game (sorta based on GURPS) for years.

493 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:28:19pm

re: #489 WindUpBird

He had a werewolf minion as well!

Also a badass van conversion that was mad-maxed to all hell :D

I had a lot more fun in the Werewolf setting. I ran "Slums" campaign based on a gathering of Nosferatu, Bone Gnawers and Wererats living in the sewers under LA taking on all comers.

494 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:29:03pm

re: #489 WindUpBird

He had a werewolf minion as well!

Also a badass van conversion that was mad-maxed to all hell :D

STOP!1!!!11!!

Naw, I'm just jealous as I spent all those years getting high, playing guitar and living in cars and the houses of strangers.

495 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:29:25pm

re: #487 Obdicut

I never actually played it. I did GM it or storyteller it or whatever the shit for some friends of mine, but discovered the combat system sucks daddy-bags.

Whatever happened to Gamma World?

Kind of dropped my the wayside.

496 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:29:40pm

re: #491 rwdflynavy

Villians and Vigilantes, Top Secret, Traveller

I saw this band, they're called Slough Feg, they did a CONCEPT ALBUM BASED ON TRAVELLER
 which qualifies them for some sort of Nerd Prime award, along with our local Klingon death metal band Stovokor :D

497 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:30:53pm

re: #494 Jeff In Ohio

STOP!1!!!11!!

Naw, I'm just jealous as I spent all those years getting high, playing guitar and living in cars and the houses of strangers.

I did play a lot of drums in metal bands at that time! But somehow I was still a boring sober nerd. I have no idea how that happened.

498 sagehen  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:31:07pm

re: #429 darthstar

I found driving on psychedelics to be problematic a few times...don't know how I managed to survive my youth without getting arrested. Waiting for a stoplight to turn green on the freeway was one of my biggest WTF moments...fuckin' thing wasn't there the day before, nor was it there the day after.

Disneyland. Microdots. Ride breakdown, stuck in "It's a Small World" for what seemed like forever. To this day I still have flashbacks when I hear that song.

And then going out to the car to smoke a little and bring my freakout back under control... did you know the parking lot is patrolled by security guards in character costume. Being cuffed and patted down by a seven-foot Mickey Mouse... OMG THE TRAUMA!

499 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:31:46pm

re: #497 WindUpBird

I did play a lot of drums in metal bands at that time! But somehow I was still a boring sober nerd. I have no idea how that happened.

Double kick?

500 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:32:08pm

re: #498 sagehen

Disneyland. Microdots. Ride breakdown, stuck in "It's a Small World" for what seemed like forever. To this day I still have flashbacks when I hear that song.

Duff beer for me,
Duff beer for you
I'll have a Duff,
You'll have one too...

501 sngnsgt  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:32:49pm

re: #497 WindUpBird

I did play a lot of drums in metal bands at that time! But somehow I was still a boring sober nerd. I have no idea how that happened.

I'm a drummer, my girl always tells me I'm cymbal minded. ///

502 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:33:21pm

re: #498 sagehen

Heh, Space Mountain, mushrooms. WOW!!

503 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:33:55pm

re: #501 sngnsgt

I'm a drummer, my girl always tells me I'm cymbal minded. ///

I could stick some more puns here, but I need to get going.

504 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:34:26pm

re: #499 Jeff In Ohio

Double kick?

Hell yes! I had (still have, but I play my electronic kit now) a Pearl Export with two bass drums that I wound in fake ivy so it looked like the earth was trying to reclaim the kit.

I was all about the double kick and the weird time signatures. The music must have sounded incomprehensible to my parents.

505 sngnsgt  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:34:42pm

re: #503 Mad Al-Jaffee

I could stick some more puns here, but I need to get going.

See ya' later, have pun... ///

506 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:38:06pm

re: #504 WindUpBird

Hell yes! I had (still have, but I play my electronic kit now) a Pearl Export with two bass drums that I wound in fake ivy so it looked like the earth was trying to reclaim the kit.

I was all about the double kick and the weird time signatures. The music must have sounded incomprehensible to my parents.

It's the metal. Not my thing, but it takes some stamina to play that shit for an hour or 2.

507 Spare O'Lake  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:38:56pm

re: #501 sngnsgt

I'm a drummer, my girl always tells me I'm cymbal minded. ///

I hope you didn't give her the back beat for that.

508 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:40:28pm

You can't kill the METAL. The METAL will live on.

Youtube Video
509 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:42:14pm

re: #508 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You can't kill the undead, it's already dead.

Heh, heh, Tenacious D, metal on an acoustic guitar.

510 Varek Raith  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:42:22pm

Metal.
Image: 633903746855471780-NathanExplosion.jpg

511 Varek Raith  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:42:53pm

re: #509 Jeff In Ohio

You can't kill the undead, it's already dead.

Heh, heh, Tenacious D, metal on an acoustic guitar.

Throw a phoenix down at it!

512 Mr Pancakes  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:43:03pm

re: #232 darthstar

I'm playing in a charity tournament on Friday (first time swinging my clubs since last year)...it's a scramble, and fun...they have a margarita hole, a mai tai hole, and the rest will likely be Guiness holes as I load my cart with beer to offset my shitty play.

I realized early on that golf was not in the cards for me after shooting an 89. My friend who is an avid golfer said that was actually a great score, especially for a newbie. My reply was "89 after 3 holes"?

513 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:44:01pm

re: #510 Varek Raith

Metal.
Image: 633903746855471780-NathanExplosion.jpg

Do you like Coffee?

514 sngnsgt  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:46:35pm

re: #507 Spare O'Lake

I hope you didn't give her the back beat for that.

Ba-dum-bum!

515 JoyousMN  Wed, May 5, 2010 1:48:03pm

OK, this is just wild...anyone else read the WaPo online chat with the guy billed as the "leader of the Tea Party Nation," Judson Phillips?

He avoids answering questions and spews none related answers, then finishes by saying lefties are not patriotic and hate America. It's a tour-de-force performance. I hate to give them page hits, but it's got to be read to be believed.

516 Renaissance_Man  Wed, May 5, 2010 2:08:13pm

re: #515 JoyousMN

OK, this is just wild...anyone else read the WaPo online chat with the guy billed as the "leader of the Tea Party Nation," Judson Phillips?

He avoids answering questions and spews none related answers, then finishes by saying lefties are not patriotic and hate America. It's a tour-de-force performance. I hate to give them page hits, but it's got to be read to be believed.

Terrifying.

To be fair, a lot of his non-answers are because he's under fire from the readers, and instead of persuading or providing factual counterargument, indulges in a little vitriol. Hard to blame him - we all know how the internet is.

My favourite money quotes:

'As soon as we vote out the Obama/Reid/Pelosi axis of fiscal evil, we will get our country back.'

Q. Do you know the difference between average and marginal tax rates? Could you answer a simple Econ 101 question regarding the impact of progressive taxation on the labour-leisure choice? A. 'No.'

'You (liberals) do not love this country. You are embarrassed by us.'

Well, that one's half right.

Delusional, deranged, mean-spirited, and ideologically bankrupt.

517 b_sharp  Wed, May 5, 2010 2:21:27pm

re: #415 rwdflynavy

You mean other than possession?
//

Some laws are just wrong.

Or outdated.

Or go against my incredibly astute sensibilities.

518 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 5, 2010 2:23:21pm

re: #515 JoyousMN

OK, this is just wild...anyone else read the WaPo online chat with the guy billed as the "leader of the Tea Party Nation," Judson Phillips?

He avoids answering questions and spews none related answers, then finishes by saying lefties are not patriotic and hate America. It's a tour-de-force performance. I hate to give them page hits, but it's got to be read to be believed.

If he's the leader of the Tea Party Nation, why have I never heard of him?

519 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 5, 2010 2:24:24pm

re: #516 Renaissance_Man

I LOLed at this quote:

Judson Phillips: Yes, and your heros, the liberal democrats of the 80's were spending like drunken democrats. I have problem with democrats and liberals being in control of the government. IT's sort of like leaving a convicted sex offender alone with children. It is a very bad idea.

THE DEMOCRATIC DEMOCRATS WERE SPENDING LIKE CHILD MOLESTOR DEMOCRATIC DRUNK DEMOCRATS ARRRGH RON PAUL RELOVEUTION ITS FULL OF STARS

520 b_sharp  Wed, May 5, 2010 2:25:04pm

re: #426 Mad Al-Jaffee

MORE COWBELL!

Wrong song dude.

Nice SNL ref tho.

521 b_sharp  Wed, May 5, 2010 2:27:23pm

re: #434 WindUpBird

Hee! I never had these experiences, having mostly hung out with nerds who tossed dice when I was a teenager :D

During the genesis of D&D, the big guy of dice games, toking up before, during and after was a requirement.

522 b_sharp  Wed, May 5, 2010 2:29:24pm

re: #441 WindUpBird

hahaha jesus

I got into trouble behind the wheel as a teen, but I was stone cold sober.

I was also driving a 1975 Firebird and going double the speed limit in a rural nowheresville crawling with speed traps :D

Silly man.

I mean driving a '75 Firebird. By that time they were all weight and no power.

I could push my '70 1/2 SS faster.

523 b_sharp  Wed, May 5, 2010 2:31:10pm

re: #458 WindUpBird

the topic is now dice tossing

Tell me when we get to cookies.

524 Lidane  Wed, May 5, 2010 2:32:24pm

re: #519 WindUpBird

THE DEMOCRATIC DEMOCRATS WERE SPENDING LIKE CHILD MOLESTOR DEMOCRATIC DRUNK DEMOCRATS ARRRGH RON PAUL RELOVEUTION ITS FULL OF STARS

OLIGARHY! GOLD! SEEDZ!

What a maroon. Reading that guy was painful.

525 Lidane  Wed, May 5, 2010 2:35:02pm

re: #510 Varek Raith

Metal.
Image: 633903746855471780-NathanExplosion.jpg

The best character on that show is their manager. That guy is ruthlessly efficient in all the best and worst ways.

526 webevintage  Wed, May 5, 2010 2:55:18pm

re: #519 WindUpBird

I LOLed at this quote:

THE DEMOCRATIC DEMOCRATS WERE SPENDING LIKE CHILD MOLESTOR DEMOCRATIC DRUNK DEMOCRATS ARRRGH RON PAUL RELOVEUTION ITS FULL OF STARS

Hahahahahahaha
The crazy iz crazy...

TEH DEMOCRATIC DEMOCRATS WUZ SPENDIN LIEK CHILD MOLESTOR DEMOCRATIC DRUNK DEMOCRATS ARRRGH RON PAUL RELOVEUSHUN ITZ FULL OV STARS

527 Athens Runaway  Wed, May 5, 2010 3:56:01pm

re: #526 webevintage

Hahahahahahaha
The crazy iz crazy...

TEH DEMOCRATIC DEMOCRATS WUZ SPENDIN LIEK CHILD MOLESTOR DEMOCRATIC DRUNK DEMOCRATS ARRRGH RON PAUL RELOVEUSHUN ITZ FULL OV STARS

WARRRRGARBL

528 Athens Runaway  Wed, May 5, 2010 3:57:11pm

re: #525 Lidane

The best character on that show is their manager. That guy is ruthlessly efficient in all the best and worst ways.

He reminds me of Owen from Gargoyles.

/anyone?

529 Lidane  Wed, May 5, 2010 4:28:28pm

re: #528 Athens Runaway

He reminds me of Owen from Gargoyles.

/anyone?

In looks, yes. In temperament? Nah. In fact, the Dethklok manager would be more likely to kill Owen for muscling in on his bread and butter than working alongside him.

Seriously-- best character on Metalocalypse, hands down. That guy rules. The band are each funny in their own ways, but nothing compares to the suit behind them.

530 Athens Runaway  Wed, May 5, 2010 4:36:26pm

re: #529 Lidane

In looks, yes. In temperament? Nah. In fact, the Dethklok manager would be more likely to kill Owen for muscling in on his bread and butter than working alongside him.

Seriously-- best character on Metalocalypse, hands down. That guy rules. The band are each funny in their own ways, but nothing compares to the suit behind them.

Except that it ends up that Owen had engineered the entire thing, and comes out on top in the end.

One's an immortal trickster, the other is a Badass Normal. Place your bets now...

And don't get me started on what happens if Commander Riker gets involved.

531 Lidane  Wed, May 5, 2010 5:11:58pm

re: #530 Athens Runaway

Eh, fair point. I still give the edge to the manager, just because I like Metalocalypse far more than I ever did Gargoyles. Heh.

532 Athens Runaway  Wed, May 5, 2010 6:43:40pm

re: #531 Lidane

Eh, fair point. I still give the edge to the manager, just because I like Metalocalypse far more than I ever did Gargoyles. Heh.

Oh, I love Metalocalypse, but isn't the idea of MacBeth as an immortal, power-armored vigilante... metal?

533 DodgerFan1988  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:41:27pm

It's pretty ironic that these same people from the religious right who claimed that a Kenyan has overthrown the U.S. Constitution, are ones trying overthrow Kenyan Constitution to fit their fundalmentalist agenda.


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