1 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 8:34:36pm |
time for Mr. B. to savor the full rich robust flavor of the teabag
(to quote my MMORPG gamer friends)
2 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 8:34:48pm |
What? of course we can't! It's just like the "N" word it's not our word!
What up my baggah!
3 | prairiefire Wed, May 5, 2010 8:36:08pm |
The blog comments are hilarious. Andrew has a devoted following of snarkers who enjoy jerking his chain, er, bag.
4 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 8:36:53pm |
In honor of this, a PSA for teabaggers:
6 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 8:39:09pm |
Notice to all teabaggers:
When you hear the word teabag, please refrain from picturing Rush Limbaugh sticking his sweaty testicles into Glen Beck's eager mouth - or Michelle Malkin's.
9 | philosophus invidius Wed, May 5, 2010 8:39:44pm |
You can call them that. It's just gross.
10 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 8:39:50pm |
re: #6 LudwigVanQuixote
Notice to all teabaggers:
Ugh. And thank you for sharing.
11 | b_sharp Wed, May 5, 2010 8:40:19pm |
re: #6 LudwigVanQuixote
Notice to all teabaggers:
When you hear the word teabag, please refrain from picturing Rush Limbaugh sticking his sweaty testicles into Glen Beck's eager mouth - or Michelle Malkin's.
Ewww.
Or even worse, Malkin's balls into Limbaugh's mouth.
12 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 8:41:02pm |
Teabagging since 1773!
LOL!
13 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 8:41:19pm |
re: #11 b_sharp
Ewww.
Or even worse, Malkin's ....
Mistress Malkin... my sister-in-law's evil doppelganger.
14 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 8:42:23pm |
15 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, May 5, 2010 8:43:22pm |
Near and dear to my heart Mr. Breitbart.
16 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 8:43:34pm |
21 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 8:48:25pm |
re: #19 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Do luggage handlers work with tea bags?
Not for all the tea in China!
23 | sadhu Wed, May 5, 2010 8:49:07pm |
Suspicious Truck Shuts Down New York City Triborough Bridge
live feed:
[Link: interactive.foxnews.com...]
24 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 8:49:07pm |
25 | Dark_Falcon Wed, May 5, 2010 8:49:11pm |
re: #6 LudwigVanQuixote
Thanks for the nausea, Ludwig. The curse of a vivid imagination is causing my stomach to churn badly.
26 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 8:50:05pm |
re: #24 Floral Giraffe
They're off making a cuppa!
figures. or are they waiting for me to bring out the cupcakes?
(baked 'em after dinner. and the fresh batch of spicy /sarc tags should be done any post now...)
27 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 8:51:02pm |
re: #25 Dark_Falcon
Thanks for the nausea, Ludwig. The curse of a vivid imagination is causing my stomach to churn badly.
ginger or cinnamon can help settle that. Try it w/ chamomile.
29 | engineer cat Wed, May 5, 2010 8:52:32pm |
ABC News/Washington Post Poll. April 22-25, 2010
Which group -- the Democrats, the Republicans, or the Tea Party -- do you think best represents your own personal values?
Democrats 48%
Republicans 24%
Tea Party 14%
Which of these comes closest to your own view? The more I hear about the Tea Party movement,
The more I like it 34%
The less I like it 43%
"Say a candidate for Congress associates him or herself with the Tea Party. Would that make you more likely to support that candidate for Congress, more likely to oppose that candidate, or wouldn't it make much difference in your vote?"
More likely to support 15%
More likely to oppose 24%
30 | albusteve Wed, May 5, 2010 8:52:36pm |
re: #6 LudwigVanQuixote
Notice to all teabaggers:
When you hear the word teabag, please refrain from picturing Rush Limbaugh sticking his sweaty testicles into Glen Beck's eager mouth - or Michelle Malkin's.
very classy...I'm impressed
31 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 5, 2010 8:53:06pm |
I’m Proud to Be a Tea Bagger
by Andrew Breitbart
The prostitutes who know you say you shouldn't be so proud of such "weak tea", if you know what I mean.
32 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 8:53:14pm |
re: #30 albusteve
How's the trip going?
33 | Dark_Falcon Wed, May 5, 2010 8:53:17pm |
34 | SpaceJesus Wed, May 5, 2010 8:53:51pm |
I'm not sure that you can call yourself a teabagger if you're the one usually on the receiving end of said teabagging (breitbart)
35 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 5, 2010 8:53:54pm |
Bill Maher is slamming Islam in CNN right now.
Cooper: "They say Islam is a religion of peace. Do you buy that?"
Maher: "Yeah, they blow you up. There's a piece of you over there. There's a piece of you over there. There's a piece of you over there."
36 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 8:53:58pm |
cupcakes are now being served.
fresh piping hot /sarc tags will be distributed when they've cooled off for 10 minutes.
And apparently there's plenty of tea...
37 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 8:54:06pm |
re: #29 engineer dog
ABC News/Washington Post Poll. April 22-25, 2010
Which group -- the Democrats, the Republicans, or the Tea Party -- do you think best represents your own personal values?
Democrats 48%
Republicans 24%
Tea Party 14%Which of these comes closest to your own view? The more I hear about the Tea Party movement,
The more I like it 34%
The less I like it 43%"Say a candidate for Congress associates him or herself with the Tea Party. Would that make you more likely to support that candidate for Congress, more likely to oppose that candidate, or wouldn't it make much difference in your vote?"
More likely to support 15%
More likely to oppose 24%
Wow you know things are bad when Democrats are beating out Republicans when it comes to the "V" word by a ratio of 2 to 1!
38 | Pete(Detroit) Wed, May 5, 2010 8:54:18pm |
Call 'em what you want, they don't care, and they are for real..
Smaller gov't, lower taxes - what's not to love?
39 | albusteve Wed, May 5, 2010 8:54:57pm |
re: #32 Floral Giraffe
How's the trip going?
super good...even been to the drags to watch my boyz race
40 | SpaceJesus Wed, May 5, 2010 8:54:59pm |
re: #38 Pete(Detroit)
Call 'em what you want, they don't care, and they are for real..
Smaller gov't, lower taxes - what's not to love?
oh joy we have one of these
41 | Kragar Wed, May 5, 2010 8:55:03pm |
re: #34 SpaceJesus
I'm not sure that you can call yourself a teabagger if you're the one usually on the receiving end of said teabagging (breitbart)
I believe the approriate term for that position is Bitch
42 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 8:55:09pm |
re: #38 Pete(Detroit)
Call 'em what you want, they don't care, and they are for real..
Smaller gov't, lower taxes - what's not to love?
The racism?
43 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 8:55:13pm |
re: #38 Pete(Detroit)
nobody here's saying they ain't for real.
44 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 8:55:18pm |
re: #38 Pete(Detroit)
Call 'em what you want, they don't care, and they are for real..
Smaller gov't, lower taxes - what's not to love?
They're inability to say what part of government they want to make smaller.
45 | Kragar Wed, May 5, 2010 8:55:40pm |
re: #38 Pete(Detroit)
Call 'em what you want, they don't care, and they are for real..
Smaller gov't, lower taxes - what's not to love?
The mindless xenophobia and religious rhetoric maybe?
46 | Dark_Falcon Wed, May 5, 2010 8:55:59pm |
re: #35 NJDhockeyfan
Bill Maher is slamming Islam in CNN right now.
Cooper: "They say Islam is a religion of peace. Do you buy that?"
Maher: "Yeah, they blow you up. There's a piece of you over there. There's a piece of you over there. There's a piece of you over there."
Upding in Maher's honor. That's both true and funny.
47 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 8:56:16pm |
re: #35 NJDhockeyfan
Bill Maher is slamming Islam in CNN right now.
Cooper: "They say Islam is a religion of peace. Do you buy that?"
Maher: "Yeah, they blow you up. There's a piece of you over there. There's a piece of you over there. There's a piece of you over there."
Meh I liked that joke better on Jack of All Trades
Jack you don't believe that Napoleon wants peace?
Oh he wants piece alright sister, the biggest piece!
48 | Pete(Detroit) Wed, May 5, 2010 8:56:38pm |
49 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 8:56:58pm |
there's a lot of folks in there with their hearts in the right place.
and there's a lot of bad evil crazy in there that will jump at the chance to take advantage of the first group.
That's what concerns us Lizards.
50 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 8:57:01pm |
re: #40 SpaceJesus
oh joy we have one of these
Hey remember the important saying...
The Gods of Discworld like having philosophers around, they're useful for target practice!
51 | SpaceJesus Wed, May 5, 2010 8:57:17pm |
52 | b_sharp Wed, May 5, 2010 8:57:23pm |
re: #43 Querent
nobody here's saying they ain't for real.
Some are saying they wish they weren't for real.
53 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 5, 2010 8:57:38pm |
re: #35 NJDhockeyfan
Bill Maher is slamming Islam in CNN right now.
Cooper: "They say Islam is a religion of peace. Do you buy that?"
Maher: "Yeah, they blow you up. There's a piece of you over there. There's a piece of you over there. There's a piece of you over there."
I really don't like Maher, but he is spot-on there. Here's a video clip.
54 | Pete(Detroit) Wed, May 5, 2010 8:57:50pm |
re: #42 Floral Giraffe
The racism?
Marginal, at worst - look at all the "well tanned" candidates courting the Tea movement...
55 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, May 5, 2010 8:58:01pm |
re: #35 NJDhockeyfan
Bill Maher is slamming Islam in CNN right now.
Cooper: "They say Islam is a religion of peace. Do you buy that?"
Maher: "Yeah, they blow you up. There's a piece of you over there. There's a piece of you over there. There's a piece of you over there."
Are you a Maher fan now?
56 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 8:58:10pm |
re: #52 b_sharp
Some are saying they wish they weren't for real.
and some are asking, 'are youse guys for real'?
58 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 8:58:25pm |
re: #54 Pete(Detroit)
Marginal, at worst - look at all the "well tanned" candidates courting the Tea movement...
I can't be a racist, some black people want me to vote for them!
59 | Pete(Detroit) Wed, May 5, 2010 8:58:28pm |
re: #44 jamesfirecat
They're inability to say what part of government they want to make smaller.
ALL of it?
60 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 5, 2010 8:58:41pm |
re: #53 Slumbering Behemoth
I really don't like Maher, but he is spot-on there. Here's a video clip.
That was fast. On the internet already.
61 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 8:59:00pm |
re: #59 Pete(Detroit)
ALL of it?
Well thank you very much, come back for me when you have a real plan that would actually achieve something!
62 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 5, 2010 8:59:06pm |
63 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 8:59:30pm |
re: #60 NJDhockeyfan
That was fast. On the internet already.
Youtube is like the eye Sauron, it sees all, it knows all.
64 | Pete(Detroit) Wed, May 5, 2010 9:00:03pm |
re: #45 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
The mindless xenophobia and religious rhetoric maybe?
Agreed, religious rhetoric I can live w/o - that's not a central theme, that I'm aware of.
Damn - catching flames faster than I can respond - whoo hoo!
65 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 9:01:00pm |
re: #64 Pete(Detroit)
Agreed, religious rhetoric I can live w/o - that's not a central theme, that I'm aware of.
Damn - catching flames faster than I can respond - whoo hoo!
(Riffraff)
you've arrived on a rather special night. It's one of the LIzard Master's affairs...
(/Riffraff)
66 | Pete(Detroit) Wed, May 5, 2010 9:01:17pm |
re: #49 Querent
there's a lot of folks in there with their hearts in the right place.
and there's a lot of bad evil crazy in there that will jump at the chance to take advantage of the first group.
That's what concerns us Lizards.
and, some of us 'in the movement..'
Gotta keep it REAL, man!
67 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 5, 2010 9:01:45pm |
re: #60 NJDhockeyfan
That was fast. On the internet already.
I saw it earlier today. Obviously pre-recorded.
68 | mich-again Wed, May 5, 2010 9:02:02pm |
Hijacking the "Tea Party" theme as a rallying cry is lame. The original tea party was a protest against taxation without representation. The only reason these people don't have "representation" is that they have been too lazy or complacent or uninterested to do something to actually get their candidates elected into office. They yap about an impending revolution when all they ever needed to do is use the electoral process the founding fathers put in place. When they use the Tea Party theme they insult the spirit behind the original.
69 | Pete(Detroit) Wed, May 5, 2010 9:02:07pm |
70 | Reginald Perrin Wed, May 5, 2010 9:02:13pm |
re: #54 Pete(Detroit)
look at all the "well tanned" candidates courting the Tea movement...
Do you mean guys like John Boehner?
71 | SpaceJesus Wed, May 5, 2010 9:02:26pm |
lol, theocrats on the right?
72 | AntonSirius Wed, May 5, 2010 9:02:36pm |
There's a Loretta Lynn joke here somewhere, but I can't quite seem to find it...
73 | Dark_Falcon Wed, May 5, 2010 9:03:04pm |
re: #59 Pete(Detroit)
ALL of it?
I doubt most of them include the Navy or the Marshal's Service in their shrinkage proposals.
74 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 9:03:26pm |
re: #66 Pete(Detroit)
and, some of us 'in the movement..'
Gotta keep it REAL, man!
Good for you then -- stay safe & sane.
i can make the same observation about the many volunteer border patrol movements -- lots of concerned folks (whether rightly or wrongly), and a quotient of snakes to play on their fears and corrupt them to Bad Crazy.
75 | Pete(Detroit) Wed, May 5, 2010 9:04:24pm |
re: #58 jamesfirecat
I can't be a racist, some black people want me to vote for them!
"I can't be a racist, this racist black guy is my representative, and he wants me to vote for him"
See how silly that sounds?
76 | SpaceJesus Wed, May 5, 2010 9:04:38pm |
re: #68 mich-again
Hijacking the "Tea Party" theme as a rallying cry is lame. The original tea party was a protest against taxation without representation. The only reason these people don't have "representation" is that they have been too lazy or complacent or uninterested to do something to actually get their candidates elected into office. They yap about an impending revolution when all they ever needed to do is use the electoral process the founding fathers put in place. When they use the Tea Party theme they insult the spirit behind the original.
and they like to fantasize that the founding fathers would have been in favor of their anti-tax poseur rebellion against the federal government. I'd like to instruct the tea party folks to look up the Whiskey Rebellion and Shay's rebellion and see how those turned out.
77 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, May 5, 2010 9:05:01pm |
re: #68 mich-again
Hijacking the "Tea Party" theme as a rallying cry is lame. The original tea party was a protest against taxation without representation. The only reason these people don't have "representation" is that they have been too lazy or complacent or uninterested to do something to actually get their candidates elected into office. They yap about an impending revolution when all they ever needed to do is use the electoral process the founding fathers put in place. When they use the Tea Party theme they insult the spirit behind the original.
Perfectly said. from the beginning, it was tea party???? why the hell are you choosing this as a theme? Bad analogy of course. (Glenn Beck was the reason, remember!)
78 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 9:05:44pm |
re: #75 Pete(Detroit)
"I can't be a racist, this racist black guy is my representative, and he wants me to vote for him"
See how silly that sounds?
More nonsensical to silly and I fail to see how it links to my original point in any real way...
79 | Pete(Detroit) Wed, May 5, 2010 9:06:56pm |
re: #61 jamesfirecat
Well thank you very much, come back for me when you have a real plan that would actually achieve something!
Can we start w/ a 10% whack across the board, starting from 2007 levels?
For a freakin START?!?!
Can we at least agree that the gov't is too effing HUGE?
If not, there is not a place to even start
>sigh
80 | mich-again Wed, May 5, 2010 9:07:19pm |
re: #77 Stanley Sea
Perfectly said. from the beginning, it was tea party??? why the hell are you choosing this as a theme? Bad analogy of course. (Glenn Beck was the reason, remember!)
He's a clown who jumped in front of the parade so people would think he was the one leading it.
81 | freetoken Wed, May 5, 2010 9:07:23pm |
re: #71 SpaceJesus
Since we are on the topic of Tea Parties, you'll be happy to know that Mr. Smith is a Tea Party fav:
hah, they've "vetted" him...
82 | SpaceJesus Wed, May 5, 2010 9:07:38pm |
re: #79 Pete(Detroit)
Can we start w/ a 10% whack across the board, starting from 2007 levels?
For a freakin START?!?!Can we at least agree that the gov't is too effing HUGE?
If not, there is not a place to even start
>sigh
where was the tea party in 2007
83 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 9:08:20pm |
re: #79 Pete(Detroit)
Can we start w/ a 10% whack across the board, starting from 2007 levels?
For a freakin START?!?!Can we at least agree that the gov't is too effing HUGE?
If not, there is not a place to even start
>sigh
Dude you only look more like an idiot every time you suggest across the board cuts.
Across the board cuts are only going to make our government worse as we people struggle to find ways to funnel more money to their pet projects and leave less to do the real work.
We should do investigation, find out what our money is being spent on that actually achieves stuff for us and what is being wasted.
Across the board cuts are the solution of a lazy mind.
84 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 5, 2010 9:08:20pm |
85 | Interesting Times Wed, May 5, 2010 9:08:23pm |
re: #77 Stanley Sea
Perfectly said. from the beginning, it was tea party??? why the hell are you choosing this as a theme? Bad analogy of course. (Glenn Beck was the reason, remember!)
I thought it was ranting Rick Santelli who started it (whatever happened to him, anyway? I suppose the Wonkette posters who predicted he'd have a shorter shelf life than Joe the Plumber were indeed prescient :) )
86 | Kragar Wed, May 5, 2010 9:08:55pm |
Ah yes, the 10% off the top deal, where has that come up before?
/
87 | SpaceJesus Wed, May 5, 2010 9:09:09pm |
re: #81 freetoken
Since we are on the topic of Tea Parties, you'll be happy to know that Mr. Smith is a Tea Party fav:
hah, they've "vetted" him...
pfft, "it's all about small government, dont you understand?! (oh, and turning america into a theocratic shithole)"
88 | engineer cat Wed, May 5, 2010 9:09:23pm |
whenever i take a look at glen beck's routine i can't help but think of that poor paranoid psychotic guy in 'a beautiful mind'
89 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, May 5, 2010 9:10:13pm |
re: #85 publicityStunted
I thought it was ranting Rick Santelli who started it (whatever happened to him, anyway? I suppose the Wonkette posters who predicted he'd have a shorter shelf life than Joe the Plumber were indeed prescient :) )
Hell, my memory is crumbled when it comes to the tp'ers. I just remember the Beck revolution on 4/15/09.
90 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 9:10:17pm |
y'all are on a roll tonight -- i'm running out of updings for my daily quota!
91 | SpaceJesus Wed, May 5, 2010 9:10:36pm |
where are those polls that show how many tea party people think obama is either kenyan, muslim, or the anti-christ? if i remember, it was like 50%.
always get a kick out of those.
92 | Pete(Detroit) Wed, May 5, 2010 9:10:54pm |
re: #68 mich-again
Hijacking the "Tea Party" theme as a rallying cry is lame. The original tea party was a protest against taxation without representation. The only reason these people don't have "representation" is that they have been too lazy or complacent or uninterested to do something to actually get their candidates elected into office. They yap about an impending revolution when all they ever needed to do is use the electoral process the founding fathers put in place. When they use the Tea Party theme they insult the spirit behind the original.
Not so sure, Mitch -
think of it as more of a 'wake up call' to coagulate, activate, defecate!
And put 'responsible' folks in charge.
Agree, we get the bungholes we vote for. But there's a bunch of folks out there pretty PO'd at being snowed, and not going to stand for it any more.
Whether it amounts to more than a fart in the kitchen remains to be seen...
94 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, May 5, 2010 9:11:07pm |
re: #85 publicityStunted
I thought it was ranting Rick Santelli who started it (whatever happened to him, anyway? I suppose the Wonkette posters who predicted he'd have a shorter shelf life than Joe the Plumber were indeed prescient :) )
JTP just got elected to some local Ohio Republican committee.
He's on his way!!!
95 | b_sharp Wed, May 5, 2010 9:11:11pm |
re: #90 Querent
y'all are on a roll tonight -- i'm running out of updings for my daily quota!
You have to learn to pace yourself.
96 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 9:11:25pm |
re: #79 Pete(Detroit)
Can we start w/ a 10% whack across the board, starting from 2007 levels?
For a freakin START?!?!Can we at least agree that the gov't is too effing HUGE?
If not, there is not a place to even start
>sigh
By the way, what objective measure do you use to suggest the " gov't is too effing HUGE?" I'm a liberal make your case to me for why our government is too large....
97 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 5, 2010 9:11:50pm |
re: #68 mich-again
That deserves the updings required to get it in the "Top Ten". Bravo, Mich.
98 | Dark_Falcon Wed, May 5, 2010 9:11:54pm |
re: #79 Pete(Detroit)
Can we start w/ a 10% whack across the board, starting from 2007 levels?
For a freakin START?!?!Can we at least agree that the gov't is too effing HUGE?
If not, there is not a place to even start
>sigh
No, we cannot. Cutting Medicare and Social Security by 10% is not something voters would want. Nor would I be willing to cut the funding of the Marines while they are at war, nor the funds of the FBI that protects us from terrorists here at home. I'm sorry, but your proposal is fatally flawed.
99 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 9:12:17pm |
re: #92 Pete(Detroit)
Not so sure, Mitch -
think of it as more of a 'wake up call' to coagulate, activate, defecate!
And put 'responsible' folks in charge.
Agree, we get the bungholes we vote for. But there's a bunch of folks out there pretty PO'd at being snowed, and not going to stand for it any more.
Whether it amounts to more than a fart in the kitchen remains to be seen...
YES, LET US SHIT UPON THOSE WHO DISAGREE WITH US!
100 | Pete(Detroit) Wed, May 5, 2010 9:12:22pm |
re: #74 Querent
Good for you then -- stay safe & sane.
i can make the same observation about the many volunteer border patrol movements -- lots of concerned folks (whether rightly or wrongly), and a quotient of snakes to play on their fears and corrupt them to Bad Crazy.
Thanks, will endeavor to persevere..
/Josey Wales
101 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 9:12:40pm |
re: #95 b_sharp
You have to learn to pace yourself.
i give an upding to anything that makes me grin, and since i'd been off LGF for some 8 months, i've been making up for lost time!
102 | Kragar Wed, May 5, 2010 9:13:08pm |
Can't we just go back to the time honored traditions of looting and pillaging?
103 | The Bunny Wed, May 5, 2010 9:13:23pm |
re: #98 Dark_Falcon
Up ding for the marines if nothing else.
104 | Varek Raith Wed, May 5, 2010 9:14:11pm |
re: #102 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Can't we just go back to the time honored traditions of looting and pillaging?
Aye, matey!
106 | Dark_Falcon Wed, May 5, 2010 9:14:52pm |
re: #88 engineer dog
whenever i take a look at glen beck's routine i can't help but think of that poor paranoid psychotic guy in 'a beautiful mind'
The thing is that Nash actually expanded human knowledge. Glenn Beck just rants and raves for money.
107 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 5, 2010 9:15:05pm |
re: #82 SpaceJesus
where was the tea party in 2007
Running full steam ahead for their man Ron Paul.
Roots.
108 | Pete(Detroit) Wed, May 5, 2010 9:15:55pm |
re: #83 jamesfirecat
Dude you only look more like an idiot every time you suggest across the board cuts.
Across the board cuts are only going to make our government worse as we people struggle to find ways to funnel more money to their pet projects and leave less to do the real work.
We should do investigation, find out what our money is being spent on that actually achieves stuff for us and what is being wasted.
Across the board cuts are the solution of a lazy mind.
So, you at least agree that $$$ are being wasted, "pet projects" are over / funded at all, and gov't is too huge?
Good - we have a starting point..
109 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 9:17:07pm |
re: #108 Pete(Detroit)
So, you at least agree that $$$ are being wasted, "pet projects" are over / funded at all, and gov't is too huge?
Good - we have a starting point..
I'll give you pet projects.
Now explain to me how we can measure when our government is "too huge"
110 | Varek Raith Wed, May 5, 2010 9:17:14pm |
re: #108 Pete(Detroit)
So, you at least agree that $$$ are being wasted, "pet projects" are over / funded at all, and gov't is too huge?
Good - we have a starting point..
What's the government's ideal size?
111 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 9:17:26pm |
112 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 5, 2010 9:17:31pm |
re: #93 Varek Raith
I want an Arcanum Progress Report from you ASAP, young man!
113 | SpaceJesus Wed, May 5, 2010 9:17:39pm |
re: #107 Slumbering Behemoth
Running full steam ahead for their man Ron Paul.
Roots.
maybe. i find it hard to imagine them existing if hillary or biden were president
115 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 9:17:44pm |
116 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, May 5, 2010 9:18:03pm |
FYI
NYPD update: No bomb found in rental truck abandoned on NY’s RFK/Triboro Bridge; traffic to resume shortly [Link: bit.ly...]
117 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 9:18:22pm |
118 | Kragar Wed, May 5, 2010 9:18:49pm |
120 | Varek Raith Wed, May 5, 2010 9:19:16pm |
re: #112 Slumbering Behemoth
I want an Arcanum Progress Report from you ASAP, young man!
I...I'm sorry, Mr. SB. I haven't been doing my homework...
:(
Haven't played any games in weeks...
:(
121 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 9:20:31pm |
re: #108 Pete(Detroit)
What do you think should be cut?
122 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 5, 2010 9:20:39pm |
re: #110 Varek Raith
What's the government's ideal size?
I'd vote for something on the order of "Behemoth".
/But of course, you knew I would.
123 | Nimed Wed, May 5, 2010 9:21:33pm |
re: #79 Pete(Detroit)
Can we start w/ a 10% whack across the board, starting from 2007 levels?
For a freakin START?!?!Can we at least agree that the gov't is too effing HUGE?
If not, there is not a place to even start
>sigh
The Tea Party relies heavily in platitudes like "small government", "tax cuts" and "fiscal responsibility" because their leaders realize that, as soon as somebody make concrete budget proposals, the movement falls apart. You can't cut defense (heresy!), since most tea partiers are Conservatives and favor the current wars. You can't cut Medicare, because half the tea partiers either rely on it now or will very soon. Same for Social Security. And these are the big chunks of the Federal budgets.
Defending tax cuts is insanity at this point, and of course incompatible with "fiscal responsibility".
124 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 9:21:38pm |
re: #121 Floral Giraffe
What do you think should be cut?
What part of EVERYTHING do you people not understand?
125 | Firstinla Wed, May 5, 2010 9:21:54pm |
Someone once asked the Pope how many people work in the Vatican. The Pope responded, "About half." That would apply to many aspect of our state and federal governments.
126 | Dark_Falcon Wed, May 5, 2010 9:22:01pm |
re: #122 Slumbering Behemoth
I'd vote for something on the order of "Behemoth".
/But of course, you knew I would.
And government should mostly be slumbering, correct? ;)
127 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 5, 2010 9:22:02pm |
Field trip for black students in Mich. draws anger
DETROIT — A school district in Michigan is defending its intentions after a field trip by African-American elementary students drew complaints from excluded children and their parents.Officials said Wednesday that 30 students from Dicken Elementary School in Ann Arbor met last week with an African-American rocket scientist at the University of Michigan. It was part of a larger effort to help close persistent test-score gaps between black and white students.
District spokeswoman Liz Margolis says the students were booed by others when they returned, and Principal Mike Madison admonished those children for their response. Madison told parents in a letter that the activity could have been approached better but the goal was positive.
Officials will also discuss the matter at a parent-teacher meeting Thursday.
I thought segregation ended years ago.
128 | Daniel Ballard Wed, May 5, 2010 9:22:15pm |
Some things just never change.
“People in this world look at things mistakenly, and think that what they do not understand must be the void. This is not the true void. It is bewilderment...”
Miyamoto Musashi
129 | b_sharp Wed, May 5, 2010 9:22:46pm |
re: #122 Slumbering Behemoth
I'd vote for something on the order of "Behemoth".
/But of course, you knew I would.
Would that be close to leviathan?
130 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 5, 2010 9:23:15pm |
re: #113 SpaceJesus
maybe. i find it hard to imagine them existing if hillary or biden were president
They would exist, but they'd still be the marginal group of kooks that this latest influx of "Tea-baggers" has always made fun of.
131 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 9:23:20pm |
133 | Pete(Detroit) Wed, May 5, 2010 9:23:37pm |
re: #98 Dark_Falcon
No, we cannot. Cutting Medicare and Social Security by 10% is not something voters would want. Nor would I be willing to cut the funding of the Marines while they are at war, nor the funds of the FBI that protects us from terrorists here at home. I'm sorry, but your proposal is fatally flawed.
Sorry, but do you seriously think there is not 10% pure WASTE involved here?
Martin Gross has gone over the books and suggested we could cut 25% from the gov't funding And Never Miss It for nearly 20 years.
Agreed, medicare and SSoc are "golden cows" for now - SSoc will see drastic cuts a/o 'means testing' well before I'm "eligible"
Yes, keeping us safe at home is one of the 'Constitutional' duties of the Fed, but funding the additional purchase of planes / vehicles / armament that the Pentagon has specifically said they don't want, just because the plants that make 'em are in your district, in MY mind could be cut.
Just sayin'..
134 | engineer cat Wed, May 5, 2010 9:24:00pm |
here is a nice pie chart showing all the federal budget pie. i think all the pieces of the pie are tasty to somebody...
here is the wiksterpedia article it came from, with lots of scary budget facts
my personal take is that all the pie is necessary - it's just that the prices we pay for it and the financing are out of whack
135 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 5, 2010 9:24:27pm |
re: #120 Varek Raith
Probably for the best. It can be pretty addictive at times, if you're into that sort of RPG.
137 | freetoken Wed, May 5, 2010 9:26:18pm |
The House Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming apparently is having a hearing tomorrow.
The Dems are calling three witnesses, scientists.
The GOP is calling one "expert" witness.... The Lord High Denier himself!
See linkage for more.
Will have to try and catch the CSPAN vid tomorrow night.
138 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 9:26:57pm |
re: #137 freetoken
The House Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming apparently is having a hearing tomorrow.
The Dems are calling three witnesses, scientists.
The GOP is calling one "expert" witness... The Lord High Denier himself!
See linkage for more.
Will have to try and catch the CSPAN vid tomorrow night.
I good sir have a doctorate in Truthology from Christian Tech!
139 | Varek Raith Wed, May 5, 2010 9:27:12pm |
I think some of us can agree that Preview just doesn't like everybody here. I mean, would a true friend let you make a grammatical fool of yourself???
;)
140 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 5, 2010 9:27:13pm |
Seeing double. Must be time for bed. Later!
141 | Pete(Detroit) Wed, May 5, 2010 9:27:25pm |
re: #109 jamesfirecat
I'll give you pet projects.
Now explain to me how we can measure when our government is "too huge"
When it consumes more than x% of GDP? (We can debate 'x')
When it commits us to generational servitude?
When it invades every aspect of our lives?
When it tells us how much $$ we make is "enough"
I mean, really, just WHERE the Eff do these guys step OFF?
142 | Pete(Detroit) Wed, May 5, 2010 9:28:04pm |
143 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, May 5, 2010 9:28:20pm |
re: #137 freetoken
The House Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming apparently is having a hearing tomorrow.
The Dems are calling three witnesses, scientists.
The GOP is calling one "expert" witness... The Lord High Denier himself!
See linkage for more.
Will have to try and catch the CSPAN vid tomorrow night.
You're either with us, or based in reality. The GOP is blowing it.
144 | b_sharp Wed, May 5, 2010 9:28:30pm |
re: #137 freetoken
The House Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming apparently is having a hearing tomorrow.
The Dems are calling three witnesses, scientists.
The GOP is calling one "expert" witness... The Lord High Denier himself!
See linkage for more.
Will have to try and catch the CSPAN vid tomorrow night.
I hope someone there mentions the name 'Tim Lambert' just to see Lord Full of Himself panic.
145 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 9:29:11pm |
re: #141 Pete(Detroit)
When it consumes more than x% of GDP? (We can debate 'x')
When it commits us to generational servitude?
When it invades every aspect of our lives?
When it tells us how much $$ we make is "enough"
I mean, really, just WHERE the Eff do these guys step OFF?
The government is "too huge" when it is providing services that are not needed.
No more no less.
There are areas where I wish it was smaller (YOU IDIOTS NEED TO STOP TALKING ABOUT ABORTION!)
But there are also areas where I wish it was bigger, as in everyone should have the option of buying into government run insurance.
What services is the government providing at the moment that you feel aren't needed?
146 | Varek Raith Wed, May 5, 2010 9:29:18pm |
147 | b_sharp Wed, May 5, 2010 9:29:37pm |
re: #139 Varek Raith
I think some of us can agree that Preview just doesn't like everybody here. I mean, would a true friend let you make a grammatical fool of yourself???
;)
If it was funny enough.
148 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 9:29:59pm |
re: #144 b_sharp
I hope someone there mentions the name 'Tim Lambert' just to see Lord Full of Himself panic.
Tim Lambert, is he that guy who travels through time and zaps people with a glove or a key chain?
(Nobody, nobody is going to get that joke...)
149 | Nimed Wed, May 5, 2010 9:30:03pm |
re: #133 Pete(Detroit)
Sorry, but do you seriously think there is not 10% pure WASTE involved here?
Martin Gross has gone over the books and suggested we could cut 25% from the gov't funding And Never Miss It for nearly 20 years.
Agreed, medicare and SSoc are "golden cows" for now - SSoc will see drastic cuts a/o 'means testing' well before I'm "eligible"
Yes, keeping us safe at home is one of the 'Constitutional' duties of the Fed, but funding the additional purchase of planes / vehicles / armament that the Pentagon has specifically said they don't want, just because the plants that make 'em are in your district, in MY mind could be cut.
Just sayin'..
Shrug. We can the discuss the merits of your proposals one by one. However, I don't think you realize that many, if not most of the tea partiers disagree with your definition of waste.
Please produce a single example of a specific budget cut proposal that is supported by the Tea Party movement.
150 | PAUL_MACDONALD Wed, May 5, 2010 9:30:50pm |
151 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, May 5, 2010 9:30:55pm |
re: #142 Pete(Detroit)
Are you a Ron/Rand Paul supporter?
152 | engineer cat Wed, May 5, 2010 9:31:11pm |
re: #141 Pete(Detroit)
however, budget items cannot be cut generally, they must be cut specifically. you name categories - how about items? specific items
153 | b_sharp Wed, May 5, 2010 9:31:45pm |
re: #148 jamesfirecat
Tim Lambert, is he that guy who travels through time and zaps people with a glove or a key chain?
(Nobody, nobody is going to get that joke...)
I didn't.
154 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 5, 2010 9:31:48pm |
155 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 9:32:49pm |
as the silence descends, and arguments are prepared...
157 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 9:33:12pm |
re: #149 Nimed
Shrug. We can the discuss the merits of your proposals one by one. However, I don't think you realize that many, if not most of the tea partiers disagree with your definition of waste.
Please produce a single example of a specific budget cut proposal that is supported by the Tea Party movement.
Oh I know this one!
Foreign Aid!
158 | Kragar Wed, May 5, 2010 9:33:21pm |
re: #148 jamesfirecat
Tim Lambert, is he that guy who travels through time and zaps people with a glove or a key chain?
(Nobody, nobody is going to get that joke...)
Voyagers?
159 | freetoken Wed, May 5, 2010 9:33:52pm |
According to Markey's office
, one of the purposes of the hearing is explicitly:
Even after months of personal attacks against climate scientists stemming from a manufactured scandal over stolen emails, the underlying science behind the need to stem the tide of heat-trapping emissions remains solid. To explain what we know about climate change, and why and how we know it, Chairman Edward J. Markey (D-Mass.) and the Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming will host top-level American climate scientists at a congressional hearing this Thursday, May 6, 2010.
The scientists will address the claims of deniers head-on. Thursday’s panel features a member of the investigative panel convened by the University of East Anglia and led by Lord Ron Oxburgh to review the stolen emails from that school’s Climactic Research Unit. The “Oxburgh Inquiry” exonerated the scientists who were attacked following the emails, saying they “saw no evidence of any deliberate scientific malpractice in any of the work.”
The GOP, to answer the claims of scientists, are calling a showman, a histrionic salesman of dung.
The GOP has entirely surrendered any influence in that realm of human endeavor in which America is deeply invested, science.
161 | PAUL_MACDONALD Wed, May 5, 2010 9:36:07pm |
re: #157 jamesfirecat
Oh I know this one!
Foreign Aid!
The "Arts"?
NASA?
I like being Canadian. Tea Partiers would suffer a stroke if they understood the scope of our government.
162 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 9:37:17pm |
re: #161 PAUL_MACDONALD
The "Arts"?
NASA?
I like being Canadian. Tea Partiers would suffer a stroke if they understood the scope of our government.
"The arts"
I would tax the nude in my bedroom... no not tax, what's the word... welcome!
163 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, May 5, 2010 9:39:00pm |
re: #159 freetoken
According to Markey's office
, one of the purposes of the hearing is explicitly:The GOP, to answer the claims of scientists, are calling a showman, a histrionic salesman of dung.
The GOP has entirely surrendered any influence in that realm of human endeavor in which America is deeply invested, science.
Emphasis. This is not good.
164 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 5, 2010 9:39:00pm |
re: #142 Pete(Detroit)
as close to zero as is reasonably possible
WTF does that even mean? Close to zero military defense? Close to zero law enforcement? Close to zero safe food and drug regulations? Close to zero educational standards?
Should we dismantle the FCC and allow the possibility of hard-core, XXX pornography being aired on daytime television (I might actually like that), and allow planes to crash due to "close to zero" communication interference standards?
I don't get it. It sounds like a one-off bumper-sticker slogan with little to no meaning nor merit.
165 | Pete(Detroit) Wed, May 5, 2010 9:40:17pm |
re: #149 Nimed
Please produce a single example of a specific budget cut proposal that is supported by the Tea Party movement.
O'Care? "Stim / Porkulus"? jus to name two...
Personally, I think the dep't of Ed that educates no one, the dep't of Transportation that transports nothing, and the dep't of Energy, that was formed in the 70's to "reduce our dependence on foreign oil" and has spent $$$B (if not T - don't have the figures to hand, sorry) could ALL be drastically cut.
We could look at HEW, or HUD, or what ever it's called lately (Human Services?) and see WTF they are actually doing.
Arguably, the whole 'war on poverty' has been a total loss, and should be scrapped wholesale
See also the 'war on drugs' and DEA funding
Keep ICE - *if* they start enforcing the law..
'nuff to start on?
And sorry all, thanks much for a Very Lively time, but alarm rings early, and it's late... hate to bomb and run, but I gotta GO...
Perhaps another time.
166 | Varek Raith Wed, May 5, 2010 9:40:37pm |
re: #164 Slumbering Behemoth
possibility of hard-core, XXX pornography being aired on daytime television
Yes.
.
.
.
What?
:P
167 | Pete(Detroit) Wed, May 5, 2010 9:40:58pm |
168 | Kragar Wed, May 5, 2010 9:40:59pm |
re: #161 PAUL_MACDONALD
The "Arts"?
NASA?
I like being Canadian. Tea Partiers would suffer a stroke if they understood the scope of our government.
Government subsidizing of various "faith based" initiatives and home schooling programs?
169 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 9:41:21pm |
re: #167 Pete(Detroit)
Quickie - Ron Paul, no
Ayn Rand, yes
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?
171 | SpaceJesus Wed, May 5, 2010 9:42:10pm |
re: #130 Slumbering Behemoth
They would exist, but they'd still be the marginal group of kooks that this latest influx of "Tea-baggers" has always made fun of.
"black man in the white house you say??"
"not on my watch!"
*grabs tricorn, joins tea party*
172 | PAUL_MACDONALD Wed, May 5, 2010 9:42:27pm |
re: #168 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Government subsidizing of various "faith based" initiatives and home schooling programs?
It's a fun game.
Best summed up with "Keep your government hands off my Medicare"
173 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 9:43:06pm |
re: #165 Pete(Detroit)
O'Care? "Stim / Porkulus"? jus to name two...
Personally, I think the dep't of Ed that educates no one, the dep't of Transportation that transports nothing, and the dep't of Energy, that was formed in the 70's to "reduce our dependence on foreign oil" and has spent $$$B (if not T - don't have the figures to hand, sorry) could ALL be drastically cut.
We could look at HEW, or HUD, or what ever it's called lately (Human Services?) and see WTF they are actually doing.
Arguably, the whole 'war on poverty' has been a total loss, and should be scrapped wholesale
See also the 'war on drugs' and DEA funding
Keep ICE - *if* they start enforcing the law..
'nuff to start on?
And sorry all, thanks much for a Very Lively time, but alarm rings early, and it's late... hate to bomb and run, but I gotta GO...Perhaps another time.
I'll give you the DEA, legalize every drug in the nation, and have standard versions of it with a seal of approval for sale in 7-11's! I want to be able to buy not just put but crack and coke as well!
(Only half sarcastic so I guess that's a %P% )
174 | Kragar Wed, May 5, 2010 9:43:09pm |
re: #172 PAUL_MACDONALD
It's a fun game.
Best summed up with "Keep your government hands off my Medicare"
I'm touching it. Does this bug you?
175 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, May 5, 2010 9:44:09pm |
re: #167 Pete(Detroit)
Quickie - Ron Paul, no
Ayn Rand, yes
Thank you for answering. I am clear now.
176 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 9:44:10pm |
re: #167 Pete(Detroit)
Quickie - Ron Paul, no
Ayn Rand, yes
What about Ayn Rand so makes you approve of her exactly?
177 | Pete(Detroit) Wed, May 5, 2010 9:45:21pm |
re: #168 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Government subsidizing of various "faith based" initiatives and home schooling programs?
YES to that - keep the gub'mint OFF the religious text of choice.
Also, yes, "the arts"
Also, yes, foreign aid to countries that poo on us.
But, I perceive that that most have moved on, as am I..
178 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 9:45:39pm |
re: #176 jamesfirecat
What about Ayn Rand so makes you approve of her exactly?
maybe he uses the 'novels' as a brain colonic -- read 5 chapters of Atlas a day for six days, and on the seventh, your brain will vomit up every bit of BS it's absorbed since the last time you read it.
(that just-completed reading included)
179 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 9:45:42pm |
By the way since its clear no one is going to come along and get my reference to number 148 here it is....
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
180 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 9:46:10pm |
re: #178 Querent
(hey, that's what I keep them around for! For that sparkly clean brain feeling!)
181 | Nimed Wed, May 5, 2010 9:46:50pm |
re: #165 Pete(Detroit)
O'Care? "Stim / Porkulus"? jus to name two...
Personally, I think the dep't of Ed that educates no one, the dep't of Transportation that transports nothing, and the dep't of Energy, that was formed in the 70's to "reduce our dependence on foreign oil" and has spent $$$B (if not T - don't have the figures to hand, sorry) could ALL be drastically cut.
We could look at HEW, or HUD, or what ever it's called lately (Human Services?) and see WTF they are actually doing.
Arguably, the whole 'war on poverty' has been a total loss, and should be scrapped wholesale
See also the 'war on drugs' and DEA funding
Keep ICE - *if* they start enforcing the law..
'nuff to start on?
And sorry all, thanks much for a Very Lively time, but alarm rings early, and it's late... hate to bomb and run, but I gotta GO...Perhaps another time.
The stimulus package will fade out almost completely within the next year, and cutting it would be disastrous for states' budgets. HCR is projected to save money (but I guess you can't really trust those CBO projections, right?).
All your other stuff is peanuts in the federal budget. But the main point is that you started with the word "personally". I also have a lot of things I would cut "personally". To repeat the question:
Please produce a single example of a specific budget cut proposal that is supported by the Tea Party movement.
182 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 9:47:09pm |
re: #177 Pete(Detroit)
YES to that - keep the gub'mint OFF the religious text of choice.
Also, yes, "the arts"
Also, yes, foreign aid to countries that poo on us.
But, I perceive that that most have moved on, as am I..
Don't leave now, you're the only thing that has made this thread interesting!
183 | Dark_Falcon Wed, May 5, 2010 9:48:01pm |
re: #176 jamesfirecat
What about Ayn Rand so makes you approve of her exactly?
Maybe its her lack of mercy, maybe her crush on a murderer...
184 | Pete(Detroit) Wed, May 5, 2010 9:48:26pm |
re: #176 jamesfirecat
What about Ayn Rand so makes you approve of her exactly?
Woman can write a sex scene!
Seriously - reward success, do NOT reward indolence / incompetence.
Pretty straight forward.
REALLY leaving now.
Thanx for playing!
You may keep your version of the Home Game
185 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 9:48:42pm |
re: #183 Dark_Falcon
Maybe its her lack of mercy, maybe her crush on a murderer...
Now, now, it might be that he just her "rough sex' scenes...
187 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 9:49:28pm |
re: #184 Pete(Detroit)
have an upding for the road, you made me laugh.
(granted, i'm easy to amuse, especially on LGF. And be careful, even if we're all in good moods, it's still a tough room!)
189 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 9:50:11pm |
re: #184 Pete(Detroit)
Woman can write a sex scene!
Seriously - reward success, do NOT reward indolence / incompetence.
Pretty straight forward.REALLY leaving now.
Thanx for playing!
You may keep your version of the Home Game
HOLY CRAP!
I was right.....
Yeah Ayn Rand knows how to right a sex scene....
And there's nothing at all disturbing about her sex scenes either....
I'll just be leaving this in my wake for some good natured fun...
[Link: www.joketribe.com...]
190 | Varek Raith Wed, May 5, 2010 9:50:23pm |
re: #169 jamesfirecat
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?
"But master, does not the fire need the water, does not the mountain need the storm too? And does not your scrotum need the kicking?"
-Beavis
191 | Nimed Wed, May 5, 2010 9:50:50pm |
re: #177 Pete(Detroit)
YES to that - keep the gub'mint OFF the religious text of choice.
Also, yes, "the arts"
Also, yes, foreign aid to countries that poo on us.
But, I perceive that that most have moved on, as am I..
Foreign aid is 0.2% of the federal budget. The biggest current beneficiaries are Iraq, Israel, Egypt and Afghanistan. Are these countries that "poo on us"? Would you cut aid to these countries?
192 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 9:50:56pm |
Ohh and a shout out to my brave and dedicated fans. If you are going to quote me, why not quote the parts where I point out everything wrong scientifically with your nonsense on smart grids? You were after all, completely and thoroughly debunked.
Why not debate that?
193 | PAUL_MACDONALD Wed, May 5, 2010 9:51:23pm |
re: #177 Pete(Detroit)
YES to that - keep the gub'mint OFF the religious text of choice.
Also, yes, "the arts"
Also, yes, foreign aid to countries that poo on us.
But, I perceive that that most have moved on, as am I..
Damn the government and the department of religious text editing.
Arts funding in the USA is already incredibly low. As close to zero as possible, I would say.
Which countries? US foreign aid is pretty low, per capita, as well.
You're keeping the highways, though, right? And the FBI...
194 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 5, 2010 9:51:31pm |
re: #171 SpaceJesus
There is a percentage of that sentiment. There is also the percentage that believes the sun never shines under a democrat admin.
Much of the rhetoric I hear now from far right reactionaries are echos from the Clinton admin., and the majority of their "sochulist ajenduh" proclamations then did not come from a place of racism. It came from a place of abject stupidity and unsubstantiated fear.
195 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 9:51:44pm |
re: #192 LudwigVanQuixote
got your own personal flock of seagulls, LVQ?
196 | SpaceJesus Wed, May 5, 2010 9:54:09pm |
re: #194 Slumbering Behemoth
There is a percentage of that sentiment. There is also the percentage that believes the sun never shines under a democrat admin.
Much of the rhetoric I hear now from far right reactionaries are echos from the Clinton admin., and the majority of their "sochulist ajenduh" proclamations then did not come from a place of racism. It came from a place of abject stupidity and unsubstantiated fear.
sure, but did they have big ass tea parties back then and walk around DC with guns and call clinton an african usurper muslim devil
198 | bratwurst Wed, May 5, 2010 9:54:31pm |
re: #165 Pete(Detroit)
hate to bomb and run
I don't know if you are running, but mission accomplished on the first part.
199 | Dark_Falcon Wed, May 5, 2010 9:55:16pm |
re: #192 LudwigVanQuixote
Ohh and a shout out to my brave and dedicated fans. If you are going to quote me, why not quote the parts where I point out everything wrong scientifically with your nonsense on smart grids? You were after all, completely and thoroughly debunked.
Why not debate that?
You've answered your own question before, Ludwig. The detractors can't match you fact to fact, so they use personal attacks to try to turn you into an ogre.
200 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, May 5, 2010 9:55:28pm |
re: #198 bratwurst
I don't know if you are running, but mission accomplished on the first part.
But not the sort of "bomb" he expected I think...
201 | PAUL_MACDONALD Wed, May 5, 2010 9:55:47pm |
Whenever I see Rand references, I am reminded of this:
202 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 9:55:59pm |
re: #199 Dark_Falcon
You've answered your own question before, Ludwig. The detractors can't match you fact to fact, so they use personal attacks to try to turn you into an ogre.
I ought to club them and eat their bones....
203 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, May 5, 2010 9:56:52pm |
re: #202 jamesfirecat
I ought to club them and eat their bones...
And he has layers too...
...to go along with that accent.
204 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 9:56:54pm |
re: #192 LudwigVanQuixote
It is, I believe, your fault.
I have started the "Wheel of Time" series.
I am up to page 120 of the first book.
This is going to seriously cut into my LGF time...
I like the story, so far!
205 | Nimed Wed, May 5, 2010 9:57:37pm |
re: #184 Pete(Detroit)
Woman can write a sex scene!
Seriously - reward success, do NOT reward indolence / incompetence.
Pretty straight forward.REALLY leaving now.
Thanx for playing!
You may keep your version of the Home Game
Wait! We still haven't decided on a plan to promote small government!
206 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 9:57:59pm |
re: #204 Floral Giraffe
great -- next, go to Museum Replicas dot com and you can own the marketing tie-in sword...
207 | jordash1212 Wed, May 5, 2010 9:58:23pm |
I remember last year when a professor had us do an assignment regarding the Tea Parties, and he was up in front of class summarizing their political agenda. All of a sudden he drops the line "Tea Baggers" which resulted in some snickering from us students. He kept doing it, and I just thought it was a mistake -- nothing pejorative or intentional. Even on one of his handouts he had written "tea baggers."
I do not understand how anyone taking them seriously can call them "tea baggers."
209 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 9:59:37pm |
re: #195 Querent
got your own personal flock of seagulls, LVQ?
I sure do. Tonight is a slow night for them apparently. Only 26 posts insulting me. In the past I have gotten whole threads.
Of course, actually looking at how their little fearless leader got demolished and why is beyond them. That would require actually looking at facts.
For those who are curious It is not as if I enjoy the attentions of my flock of admirers. However, since I have it, and these truly are detestable scum, I can take some small pleasure in rubbing their noses in their pathetic stupidity.
210 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 9:59:43pm |
re: #208 Varek Raith
Ayn Rand. Lol.
"Dick Cheney... and that's it I don't even need to tell a joke you people are already laughing!"
Paraphrasing Lewis Black.
211 | freetoken Wed, May 5, 2010 10:00:04pm |
H. Smith, candidate for Congress, whom SJ brought to our attention, attempts to explain to a Tea Partier "vetting" Mr. Smith that her favored "Fair Tax" is really a silly idea:
Hehe... she's not buying his dismissal of it...
Any, Mr. Smith sounds like a nice old guy with some old fashioned ideas who just needs to talk. Probably somebody fine to have dinner with... but doesn't belong in Congress.
212 | Dark_Falcon Wed, May 5, 2010 10:00:14pm |
re: #202 jamesfirecat
I ought to club them and eat their bones...
No, squeeze the jelly from their eyeballs to spread upon Ludwig's morning bagel.
/
213 | SpaceJesus Wed, May 5, 2010 10:00:14pm |
conservatives are the new Jews at free republic i guess
[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]
"Here is how it works: 'They' need to divide us and vilify us. So first they find the division: We saw it with H1N1. Here we found that Right-wing conservatives seemed to be more resistant to getting a vaccine. Good. That means that the next illness to come about (Whether real or false) will serve as the dividing line. Those who get vaccinated will GLADLY turn in those that don’t, in the efforts of not being infected.
Conservatives will be loaded onto trains at gun point. We will be lead to the countryside where we will be grouped in camps. Surprise, Surprise. In those camps we will all die."
lol
214 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, May 5, 2010 10:00:17pm |
Well, I'm fuming that the GOP is relying on Monckton for their side of the debate.
What a fucking sham.
215 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 10:00:29pm |
re: #206 Querent
great -- next, go to Museum Replicas dot com and you can own the marketing tie-in sword...
LOL!
No, thank you. I have a BUNCH of Franklin Mint soldiers that I inherited.
Original, in the box, almost worth hauling to Goodwill, but not quite.
216 | Nimed Wed, May 5, 2010 10:00:31pm |
re: #201 PAUL_MACDONALD
Whenever I see Rand references, I am reminded of this:
Lovely! Do you know the comic strip equivalent for Atlas Shrugged?
217 | Varek Raith Wed, May 5, 2010 10:01:30pm |
re: #213 SpaceJesus
conservatives are the new Jews at free republic i guess
[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]
"Here is how it works: 'They' need to divide us and vilify us. So first they find the division: We saw it with H1N1. Here we found that Right-wing conservatives seemed to be more resistant to getting a vaccine. Good. That means that the next illness to come about (Whether real or false) will serve as the dividing line. Those who get vaccinated will GLADLY turn in those that don’t, in the efforts of not being infected.
Conservatives will be loaded onto trains at gun point. We will be lead to the countryside where we will be grouped in camps. Surprise, Surprise. In those camps we will all die."
lol
INCOMING BLACK HELICOPTERS MADE FROM GOOOLLLDDD!11!!
218 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 10:01:37pm |
re: #209 LudwigVanQuixote
are those posts here or elsewhere?
219 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 10:01:42pm |
re: #199 Dark_Falcon
You've answered your own question before, Ludwig. The detractors can't match you fact to fact, so they use personal attacks to try to turn you into an ogre.
They can't match a competent middle schooler fact to fact. It isn't about me being an ogre to them. I would always be an ogre to them. I am everything they would hate - smarter, better educated, not a homophone or a sexist, not a crypto-fascist, not a racist and perhaps most importantly, popular here while their pathetic asses got banned.
220 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 5, 2010 10:02:22pm |
re: #196 SpaceJesus
The internet wasn't as ubiquitous back then. Like minded reactionaries had to rely on trading basement printed newsletters and Alex Jones produced VHS tapes.
Anyhow, I am not denying that there is a racist element in a percentage of those who knee jerk at this current admin. It is there. I am just pointing out that there is a larger percentage of reactionaries who would eagerly engage in this fear/conspiracy mongering garbage regardless of the color of a dem. POTUS.
/This message has been brought to you by your Friendly, Neighborhood Republican RINO
221 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 10:02:24pm |
re: #213 SpaceJesus
conservatives are the new Jews at free republic i guess
[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]
"Here is how it works: 'They' need to divide us and vilify us. So first they find the division: We saw it with H1N1. Here we found that Right-wing conservatives seemed to be more resistant to getting a vaccine. Good. That means that the next illness to come about (Whether real or false) will serve as the dividing line. Those who get vaccinated will GLADLY turn in those that don’t, in the efforts of not being infected.
Conservatives will be loaded onto trains at gun point. We will be lead to the countryside where we will be grouped in camps. Surprise, Surprise. In those camps we will all die."
lol
/Dude, if conservatives are less likely to get vaccines why not just create a disease that only a vaccine will cure, spread it among the populace with warning an ample chances for Obama's liberal followers to get the vaccine first? Oh wait I forgot government can't do anything efficiently....
222 | Kragar Wed, May 5, 2010 10:02:36pm |
re: #217 Varek Raith
INCOMING BLACK HELICOPTERS MADE FROM GOOOLLLDDD!11!!
They're firing evil hybrid seed laden death down upon us!
223 | SpaceJesus Wed, May 5, 2010 10:02:39pm |
re: #217 Varek Raith
INCOMING BLACK HELICOPTERS MADE FROM GOOOLLLDDD!11!!
black helicopters? obama is black! it all makes sense now!
224 | freetoken Wed, May 5, 2010 10:02:47pm |
re: #213 SpaceJesus
At least they'll have their non-hybrid seeds to give them comfort.
225 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 10:02:54pm |
re: #204 Floral Giraffe
It is, I believe, your fault.
I have started the "Wheel of Time" series.
I am up to page 120 of the first book.
This is going to seriously cut into my LGF time...
I like the story, so far!
NO NO don't do it! I said Ice and Fire! Ice and Fire... I have seen good students drop whole GPA points because of wheel of time. There is some crack like coating on the pages!
226 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 10:02:59pm |
re: #213 SpaceJesus
You really had the stalkers in fits the other night.
*fistbump*
(OMG, is this the same SJ? Am I the same FG? What has happened?)
227 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 10:03:29pm |
228 | Varek Raith Wed, May 5, 2010 10:04:06pm |
re: #226 Floral Giraffe
You really had the stalkers in fits the other night.
*fistbump*(OMG, is this the same SJ? Am I the same FG? What has happened?)
Damn, SJ's karma is approaching 1000!
Quick everyone, upding his posts!
:)
229 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 10:04:23pm |
re: #222 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
They're firing evil hybrid seed laden death down upon us!
Donut seeds!
(Told you I was stealing that!)
230 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 10:04:29pm |
re: #226 Floral Giraffe
You really had the stalkers in fits the other night.
*fistbump*(OMG, is this the same SJ? Am I the same FG? What has happened?)
FG come to the dark side... they hate you too!
231 | PAUL_MACDONALD Wed, May 5, 2010 10:04:34pm |
re: #216 Nimed
Lovely! Do you know the comic strip equivalent for Atlas Shrugged?
There's a 1 paragraph summary of that book somewhere. I honestly think that those that read it and LIKED it, never actually read it at all.
232 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 10:04:51pm |
233 | Varek Raith Wed, May 5, 2010 10:05:05pm |
234 | SpaceJesus Wed, May 5, 2010 10:05:13pm |
re: #220 Slumbering Behemoth
maybe. i just find it odd that these folks werent around when bush drastically expanded the size of federal government. im sure the majority are based on being reactionary, crazy and ignorant... it's just that im willing to bet from their rhetoric and behavior that a black president was the tipping point for them to start going outside with their misspelled signs and lawnchairs
235 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 10:05:13pm |
re: #231 PAUL_MACDONALD
There's a 1 paragraph summary of that book somewhere. I honestly think that those that read it and LIKED it, never actually read it at all.
It's like longer than all three Lord of the Rings books put together isn't it? Who could actually read the damn thing?
236 | Mark Pennington Wed, May 5, 2010 10:05:28pm |
From the movie Pecker by John Waters. It's a no-teabagging establishment.
237 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 5, 2010 10:05:53pm |
re: #213 SpaceJesus
That's the same kind of conspiracy mongering that was spewed during the Clinton admin. You'd think we'd all be in gov't work camps by now.
238 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 10:06:13pm |
re: #230 LudwigVanQuixote
Wags her commando bottom at the stalkers.
Hi fellas!
Yes, upon reflection, I will post that.
It's in bad taste, but, well, so are they!
239 | Varek Raith Wed, May 5, 2010 10:06:15pm |
re: #237 Slumbering Behemoth
That's the same kind of conspiracy mongering that was spewed during the Clinton admin. You'd think we'd all be in gov't work camps by now.
Red tape.
240 | freetoken Wed, May 5, 2010 10:06:21pm |
It's revealing... Mr. Smith, who was into accounting deeply, now retired, tries to explain to "Fair Tax" true-believing Tea Partiers that their favorite idea will hurt them, not help them.
But they reject him. He has expertise, they have true belief.
True belief wins.
241 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 10:06:29pm |
re: #235 jamesfirecat
um... i've read the damn thing. more than once, i might add.
(and actually found it enjoyable if i skipped the ten-page speech)
242 | SpaceJesus Wed, May 5, 2010 10:06:33pm |
243 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 10:07:24pm |
245 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, May 5, 2010 10:07:40pm |
re: #236 beekiller
From the movie Pecker by John Waters. It's a no-teabagging establishment.
[Video]
Yeah!
246 | SpaceJesus Wed, May 5, 2010 10:07:55pm |
re: #226 Floral Giraffe
You really had the stalkers in fits the other night.
*fistbump*(OMG, is this the same SJ? Am I the same FG? What has happened?)
actually, according to stalkerblog.com, i am charles
247 | Varek Raith Wed, May 5, 2010 10:08:56pm |
re: #246 SpaceJesus
actually, according to stalkerblog.com, i am charles
We are all Charles, including Kosh.
248 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 10:08:58pm |
re: #241 Querent
um... i've read the damn thing. more than once, i might add.
(and actually found it enjoyable if i skipped the ten-page speech)
It's only ten pages?
249 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 10:08:59pm |
re: #246 SpaceJesus
actually, according to stalkerblog.com, i am charles
Well, you're in their heads, that's for sure.
Cue the scary music!
You do really well, kicking up dust over there.
*smooch*
Runs & hides.
250 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 10:09:27pm |
251 | Kragar Wed, May 5, 2010 10:09:35pm |
252 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 10:09:36pm |
253 | Dark_Falcon Wed, May 5, 2010 10:11:41pm |
re: #233 Varek Raith
Do they hate me???
XD
No, Varek, they do not know you. But I'm sure the Sun Crusher could attend to that quite quickly.
254 | PAUL_MACDONALD Wed, May 5, 2010 10:11:54pm |
re: #235 jamesfirecat
It's like longer than all three Lord of the Rings books put together isn't it? Who could actually read the damn thing?
I don't know. Tea partiers claim to have read it. I think its more of a prop than anything else. Use it to pretend you're well read, or hold the door open. It's a multipurpose prop.
255 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 10:12:49pm |
re: #252 Querent
of course for the most effective brain-cleansing, you have to grit your teeth and read the speeches along with the rest of the narrative.
(and then keep your head away from anything made of glass, lest you cut your precious cerebellum when your skull projectile-vomits your brain out...)
256 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 10:13:17pm |
re: #254 PAUL_MACDONALD
I don't know. Tea partiers claim to have read it. I think its more of a prop than anything else. Use it to pretend you're well read, or hold the door open. It's a multipurpose prop.
it's certainly thick as a brick.
257 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 10:13:28pm |
re: #254 PAUL_MACDONALD
I don't know. Tea partiers claim to have read it. I think its more of a prop than anything else. Use it to pretend you're well read, or hold the door open. It's a multipurpose prop.
There are many ways owning this book might improve your life, you could use it to prop up a table with a wobbly leg, you could throw it at a burglar bludgeoning them into submission, who knows you might even read it!
258 | Reginald Perrin Wed, May 5, 2010 10:13:34pm |
re: #244 Floral Giraffe
Rodant.
Or as he is known at another blog, the simian faced Latin King wannabe
259 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 10:14:10pm |
re: #233 Varek Raith
Do they hate me???
XD
I honestly don't check them regularly enough to say. However here are some angles guaranteed to piss them off - and then you too will have a devoted following.
1. Take the evolution is real and science in general is real stance.
2. Defend the rights of gay people.
3. Point out how the tea-baggers use nazi memes.
4. Defend Charles. Actually Charles is a very big boy and he can take care of himself, but he is also a good guy and when you write something supportive of him, trolls cry.
5. Point out that the Bible really does demand that we are good to the less fortunate - even if they aren't white.
6. Remind them that most women find their sweaty man boobs, continual macho posturing and other weak beta tendencies to be gross.
7. Remind them that calls for genocide are not cool.
8. Remind them that hanging out with people who call for genocide are not cool.
9. You can take a civil rights view of American law and remind them of all sorts of pesky things in the Constitution that get in the way of setting up the sort of backwards fascist theocracy they love.
10. You can ask why it is that Rodan just doesn't come out of the closet and admit that he wants a big hairy Muslim man to give it to him hard. He would be happier and he wouldn't have to drink so much.
260 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 10:14:39pm |
re: #238 Floral Giraffe
Wags her commando bottom at the stalkers.
Hi fellas!Yes, upon reflection, I will post that.
It's in bad taste, but, well, so are they!
We love your commando bottom!
261 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 10:15:03pm |
re: #250 jamesfirecat
I'm Spartacus, I mean Charles!
By the way I feel at this point it needs to be said that this is extra funny to me, because my dad is actually named Charles.
So is my grandfather.
That wouldn't be especially noteworthy except that its my maternal grandfather.
(Waits a few moments while you guys do the caculations )
Yes you have that right, my mom married a guy with the same name as her dad.
And yet my family is shockingly normal!
262 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 10:15:09pm |
re: #246 SpaceJesus
actually, according to stalkerblog.com, i am charles
They said I was Charles! Are you me?
263 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 10:15:17pm |
264 | SpaceJesus Wed, May 5, 2010 10:15:21pm |
re: #259 LudwigVanQuixote
10. You can ask why it is that Rodan just doesn't come out of the closet and admit that he wants a big hairy Muslim man to give it to him hard. He would be happier and he wouldn't have to drink so much.
hahahaha
265 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 10:15:36pm |
re: #259 LudwigVanQuixote
Remind them that women can be as smart, or smarter than men.
266 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 5, 2010 10:15:51pm |
re: #234 SpaceJesus
Trust me on this. As a former CDS sufferer and reactionary insider, it is the "Democrat" part of Obama that drives the insanity behind this movement much more so than the "Black" part. And again, I do not say this as to minimize any of the obvious racist elements that have been documented.
If Obama were a Republican, the teabagger opposition would consist of the same tiny, marginalized Paulian/Rand-bot/Troofer morons it always was composed of, plus a few more racists.
267 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 10:16:20pm |
268 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 10:16:39pm |
re: #265 Floral Giraffe
Remind them that women can be as smart, or smarter than men.
Ohh they hate that!
You can also remind them that Jesus does not cry when women enjoy sex.
269 | wiffersnapper Wed, May 5, 2010 10:17:10pm |
It's no fair that teabagging has been stolen from the video game vocabulary and used for political profit. Jerks!
270 | Varek Raith Wed, May 5, 2010 10:17:16pm |
271 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 10:18:30pm |
re: #268 LudwigVanQuixote
They would SO enjoy a female poseur as a dominatrix, in black vinyl, to spice up their bed times. They just dream about it now!
272 | PAUL_MACDONALD Wed, May 5, 2010 10:18:39pm |
re: #257 jamesfirecat
There are many ways owning this book might improve your life, you could use it to prop up a table with a wobbly leg, you could throw it at a burglar bludgeoning them into submission, who knows you might even read it!
Oh, I tried. The part where Dagny talks to the professor who can't remember the third student annoyed the shit out of me. We all know it's John Galt, you hack. The dude is a sensation! He's viral! Why would this old idiot forget who his best pupil was?
The book should have ended after the railway was built, because that's as far as I got. Terribly paced. A giant cliche. One dimensional characters. "Drek" is the only appropriate word for crap of this magnigtude.
273 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 5, 2010 10:18:45pm |
re: #265 Floral Giraffe
Remind them that women can be as smart, or smarter than men.
SHE'S A WITCH! BURN HER!
274 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 10:19:45pm |
275 | Varek Raith Wed, May 5, 2010 10:19:52pm |
276 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 10:20:27pm |
re: #275 Varek Raith
ARE YOU CRAZY!?!? SHE'LL CAST SPELLS ON YOU!
Hee hee, do NOT tell him to check under his pillow tonight.
277 | Kragar Wed, May 5, 2010 10:20:27pm |
278 | Kragar Wed, May 5, 2010 10:20:44pm |
279 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 10:21:10pm |
re: #278 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
but you look better now...
280 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 10:21:23pm |
281 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 5, 2010 10:21:26pm |
282 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 10:21:31pm |
OK I never did get those questions answered.. So I have some for our friends who keep reading here!
OK for my other dedicated fans:
Just some questions...
Did you guys have a thread blaming the protesters for the Kent State shootings (on the anniversary) because you all just love the idea of shooting unarmed hippies? Geeze, even I only was saying that armed teabaggers, who were trying to overthrow America, should only be fired on if they fired their weapons first (that's what doing something stupid with those guns meant)? Do you see the difference?
NB they did post that?
Does Eliana or Buzzy realize that Torah admonishes us to stay away from rashas?
Is it true that Rodan became sociopathic and started preaching genocide because he has yet to accept that he enjoys blowing homeless men behind dumpsters? Would he be happier if he could just admit that his deepest fantasy is having a HUGE Muslim man give it to him? Is this why he drinks so much?
Did Snork become so ragingly anti-science because doing math causes his hemorrhoids to bleed? How is it possible for someone with a sixth grade understanding of math to be an engineer? Does building stuff with Legos count somewhere?
Does talking about guns and marines and how you are related to marines or own guns make anyone actually manly or does it merely indicate weak betas wishing they were manly?
Was Bunk x released too early?
Is it true that Former Corpsman posts less because he has discovered that he can lick his own nipples? How does he get the hair out of his teeth? Does he shave now?
Wouldn't goddess be a happier and better adjusted person if she thought that Jesus has no problem with women having orgasms?
Does Iron Fist realize that getting "his seed" on his guns when he fondles them too much might damage the actions?
Why has TFK not been hospitalized yet?
283 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 10:22:22pm |
re: #281 Slumbering Behemoth
Too late, she's already turned me into a newt.
/What? I got better...
3 seconds! HAH!
284 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 10:22:41pm |
re: #271 Floral Giraffe
They would SO enjoy a female poseur as a dominatrix, in black vinyl, to spice up their bed times. They just dream about it now!
OMG you know it! The thing is, I can't imagine any self respecting Dominatrix wanting them for a pet.
285 | PAUL_MACDONALD Wed, May 5, 2010 10:22:49pm |
re: #281 Slumbering Behemoth
Too late, she's already turned me into a newt.
/What? I got better...
The real question is "how much does she weigh?"
286 | Dark_Falcon Wed, May 5, 2010 10:23:16pm |
re: #277 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
BUILD A BRIDGE OUT OF HER!
SHE BELONGS ON THE PREVIOUS THREAD, SINCE SHE IS LIGHTER THAN A DUCK!!1
287 | Nimed Wed, May 5, 2010 10:23:48pm |
re: #165 Pete(Detroit)
And sorry all, thanks much for a Very Lively time, but alarm rings early, and it's late... hate to bomb and run, but I gotta GO...
"Bomb" really encapsulates it. I feel our friend Pete deserves a proper stage exit
288 | freetoken Wed, May 5, 2010 10:23:56pm |
Seems the Tea Partiers don't cotton to Mr. Smith's belief that 3rd generation estate taxes are ok.
After explaining to Ms. Fair Tax that a multi-generational estate tax is necessary, exempting the first generation (that is, your child shouldn't pay on inheriting something you worked for), some guy goes postal on Mr. Smith. Catch it starting around :50 :
I'm really loving this demonstration of the Tea Partiers not actually hearing what Mr. Smith is saying... they just need to vent.
289 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 10:25:08pm |
re: #284 LudwigVanQuixote
OMG you know it! The thing is, I can't imagine any self respecting Dominatrix wanting them for a pet.
Nonsense, a good dominatrix has a dungeon FULL of waiting slaves.
So she can pick and choose. It's a mood thing.
290 | Nimed Wed, May 5, 2010 10:25:38pm |
re: #282 LudwigVanQuixote
OK I never did get those questions answered.. So I have some for our friends who keep reading here!
OK for my other dedicated fans:
Just some questions...
Did you guys have a thread blaming the protesters for the Kent State shootings (on the anniversary) because you all just love the idea of shooting unarmed hippies? Geeze, even I only was saying that armed teabaggers, who were trying to overthrow America, should only be fired on if they fired their weapons first (that's what doing something stupid with those guns meant)? Do you see the difference?
NB they did post that?
Does Eliana or Buzzy realize that Torah admonishes us to stay away from rashas?
Is it true that Rodan became sociopathic and started preaching genocide because he has yet to accept that he enjoys blowing homeless men behind dumpsters? Would he be happier if he could just admit that his deepest fantasy is having a HUGE Muslim man give it to him? Is this why he drinks so much?
Did Snork become so ragingly anti-science because doing math causes his hemorrhoids to bleed? How is it possible for someone with a sixth grade understanding of math to be an engineer? Does building stuff with Legos count somewhere?
Does talking about guns and marines and how you are related to marines or own guns make anyone actually manly or does it merely indicate weak betas wishing they were manly?
Was Bunk x released too early?
Is it true that Former Corpsman posts less because he has discovered that he can lick his own nipples? How does he get the hair out of his teeth? Does he shave now?
Wouldn't goddess be a happier and better adjusted person if she thought that Jesus has no problem with women having orgasms?
Does Iron Fist realize that getting "his seed" on his guns when he fondles them too much might damage the actions?
Why has TFK not been hospitalized yet?
Ok, who the hell are those guys? I feel I've missed out.
291 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 5, 2010 10:26:46pm |
re: #282 LudwigVanQuixote
Does talking about guns and marines and how you are related to marines or own guns make anyone actually manly or does it merely indicate weak betas wishing they were manly?
Only poseurs and posturing fools openly discuss such possessions. The dumbest and loosest of lips. Not even my closest, must trusted friends are privy to the kinds ordinance I posses.
Which, for the record, is none at all.
292 | Jadespring Wed, May 5, 2010 10:27:03pm |
Holy bizzare thread batman!
Heyo everyone. :)
293 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 10:27:36pm |
re: #287 Nimed
"Bomb" really encapsulates it. I feel our friend Pete deserves a proper stage exit
[Video]
Sadly I can't find the kind of exit he deserves in my own opinion which is that scene from Futurearma where Doctor Zoidberg is doing stand up... one of those hooks comes out from him so he snaps it with his claws, and then another bonks him on the head and drags him off....
294 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 10:28:26pm |
re: #289 Floral Giraffe
Nonsense, a good dominatrix has a dungeon FULL of waiting slaves.
So she can pick and choose. It's a mood thing.
Do you really think they would ever be in the mood for a nice romantic evening of Bunk X crying because he wet himself again after Rodan threw up?. I would think she would she choose quality?
295 | Reginald Perrin Wed, May 5, 2010 10:28:30pm |
re: #284 LudwigVanQuixote
OMG you know it! The thing is, I can't imagine any self respecting Dominatrix wanting them for a pet.
When Rodan used to troll at another blog and get his a$$ kicked, a few of the bloggers theorized that his was a masochist in need of the huliliation and abuse, but was to cheap to pay a professional dom(me), so he got it there for free
296 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 10:28:33pm |
re: #290 Nimed
Ok, who the hell are those guys? I feel I've missed out.
There are people on the internets who hang on every word that comes from Ludwig's mouth. They're almost like Jonas Bros. fans.
297 | Dark_Falcon Wed, May 5, 2010 10:28:35pm |
re: #288 freetoken
Seems the Tea Partiers don't cotton to Mr. Smith's belief that 3rd generation estate taxes are ok.
After explaining to Ms. Fair Tax that a multi-generational estate tax is necessary, exempting the first generation (that is, your child shouldn't pay on inheriting something you worked for), some guy goes postal on Mr. Smith. Catch it starting around :50 :
[Video]I'm really loving this demonstration of the Tea Partiers not actually hearing what Mr. Smith is saying... they just need to vent.
That, and the fact that the man in question takes any disagreement as a sign of hostility. Honest disagreement does not exist for him: Those for agree with him are "Real Conservatives", all others are contemptible "RINOs" and "Progs".
298 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 10:29:28pm |
All this dominatrix talk is getting me hot and bothered.
299 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 10:29:29pm |
re: #297 Dark_Falcon
That, and the fact that the man in question takes any disagreement as a sign of hostility. Honest disagreement does not exist for him: Those for agree with him are "Real Conservatives", all others are contemptible "RINOs" and "Progs".
PROGZ IZ MADE FAH TAXIN' AN SPENDN'
300 | Dark_Falcon Wed, May 5, 2010 10:30:17pm |
re: #290 Nimed
Ok, who the hell are those guys? I feel I've missed out.
People who used to post here who have since been banned.
301 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 5, 2010 10:30:30pm |
303 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 10:31:24pm |
re: #291 Slumbering Behemoth
Only poseurs and posturing fools openly discuss such possessions. The dumbest and loosest of lips. Not even my closest, must trusted friends are privy to the kinds ordinance I posses.
Which, for the record, is none at all.
Exactly. My favorite posts from them are of the "If I met you Ludwank... you would go fetal and run from me... My brother is a Marine!" variety.
If I, or any lizard, met them we would laugh in their faces and kiss our lizard love mate and go do something better.
304 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 10:32:00pm |
re: #295 Reginald Perrin
When Rodan used to troll at another blog and get his a$$ kicked, a few of the bloggers theorized that his was a masochist in need of the huliliation and abuse, but was to cheap to pay a professional dom(me), so he got it there for free
You know he really does strike me as the type who would go for CBT.
305 | Kragar Wed, May 5, 2010 10:32:12pm |
re: #297 Dark_Falcon
That, and the fact that the man in question takes any disagreement as a sign of hostility. Honest disagreement does not exist for him: Those for agree with him are "Real Conservatives", all others are contemptible "RINOs" and "Progs".
Nasty dirty tricksy Progs! GOLLUM! GOLLUM!
306 | blueraven Wed, May 5, 2010 10:32:34pm |
re: #133 Pete(Detroit)
Sorry, but do you seriously think there is not 10% pure WASTE involved here?
Martin Gross has gone over the books and suggested we could cut 25% from the gov't funding And Never Miss It for nearly 20 years.
Agreed, medicare and SSoc are "golden cows" for now - SSoc will see drastic cuts a/o 'means testing' well before I'm "eligible"
Yes, keeping us safe at home is one of the 'Constitutional' duties of the Fed, but funding the additional purchase of planes / vehicles / armament that the Pentagon has specifically said they don't want, just because the plants that make 'em are in your district, in MY mind could be cut.
Just sayin'..
So I take it you won't be voting republican, since they are against cutting any waste from the Medicare program and want to keep over paying for Medicare Advantage subsidies.
Just where were the tea party people when the congress passed the Medicare part D? Where were you while wall street was robbing us with govt help?
Where were you when the rich got huge tax cuts even in the face of two wars?
Give me a fucking break.
308 | freetoken Wed, May 5, 2010 10:33:27pm |
re: #297 Dark_Falcon
Yeah... Mr. Rage Boy shouts to Mr. Smith "You're the problem", when Mr. Smith has not even been in congress writing the tax laws.
Remember, Mr. Smith already mentioned at the beginning of his little sit down that he left the GOP, of which he was a committee member, because in his opinion the GOP was no longer responsibly governing.
The Tea Partiers just don't grok why Mr. Smith would want to tax multi-generational estates. Apparently the Tea Partiers are unaware of the European history of the accumulation of wealth in the hands of certain families, and how the landed gentry really did treat the serfs, who the Tea Partiers apparently want to emulate.
Clearly Smith is a TINO...
309 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 10:33:46pm |
311 | Reginald Perrin Wed, May 5, 2010 10:34:33pm |
re: #304 LudwigVanQuixote
You know he really does strike me as the type who would go for CBT.
I doubt if he has any balls to torture.
312 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 10:35:03pm |
re: #309 JasonA
Oh. I guess we aren't that close-knit a community. :P
we have our snags and ravellings. but my rule is, you make me laugh, you get an upding.
And you have a knack for making me laugh -- keep up the good work.
313 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 10:35:14pm |
re: #308 freetoken
Yeah... Mr. Rage Boy shouts to Mr. Smith "You're the problem", when Mr. Smith has not even been in congress writing the tax laws.
Remember, Mr. Smith already mentioned at the beginning of his little sit down that he left the GOP, of which he was a committee member, because in his opinion the GOP was no longer responsibly governing.
The Tea Partiers just don't grok why Mr. Smith would want to tax multi-generational estates. Apparently the Tea Partiers are unaware of the European history of the accumulation of wealth in the hands of certain families, and how the landed gentry really did treat the serfs, who the Tea Partiers apparently want to emulate.
Clearly Smith is a TINO...
Because Mr. Adams most people would rather protect the rights of the wealthy out of the futile hope that some day they may themselves be among them, than face the reality of being poor!
(Quoted from 1776 to the best of my memory)
314 | Kragar Wed, May 5, 2010 10:35:40pm |
315 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 10:36:12pm |
316 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 10:36:20pm |
re: #308 freetoken
Yeah... Mr. Rage Boy shouts to Mr. Smith "You're the problem", when Mr. Smith has not even been in congress writing the tax laws.
Remember, Mr. Smith already mentioned at the beginning of his little sit down that he left the GOP, of which he was a committee member, because in his opinion the GOP was no longer responsibly governing.
The Tea Partiers just don't grok why Mr. Smith would want to tax multi-generational estates. Apparently the Tea Partiers are unaware of the European history of the accumulation of wealth in the hands of certain families, and how the landed gentry really did treat the serfs, who the Tea Partiers apparently want to emulate.
Clearly Smith is a TINO...
not sure if my bro said it or one of his friends did:
'scratch a libertarian and you'll find someone who's pining for the return of the aristocracy - because he thinks he'd be one.'
317 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 10:36:32pm |
re: #312 Querent
I tend to get that a lot.
318 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 10:36:34pm |
re: #290 Nimed
Ok, who the hell are those guys? I feel I've missed out.
They are a bunch of total losers who used to post here before Charles got fed up with the endless Beavis and Butthead like stupidity of them - and their racism, fascism, homophobia and anti-science.
Since then they do nothing but stalk the blog and and hang out at their own cesspool blog whining about how they were unfairly kicked out for being genocide preaching asswipes or other such scummy things and plotting revenge in self aggrandizing fantasies.
They are in general, fat, white, vile, misogynistic, homophobic, aging and very stupid.
319 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 10:37:33pm |
re: #313 jamesfirecat
Because Mr. Adams most people would rather protect the rights of the wealthy out of the futile hope that some day they may themselves be among them, than face the reality of being poor!
(Quoted from 1776 to the best of my memory)
if you tax the rich to feed the poor, until there are no rich no more...
...then who's going to be left to help the poor??
(they never mention that part of it, do they...)
320 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 10:37:40pm |
321 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 10:38:05pm |
re: #298 JasonA
All this dominatrix talk is getting me hot and bothered.
And you see, it's cool to be cool with that here.
I personally am of the variety that would prefer to plan and give rather than receive.
322 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 10:38:16pm |
re: #318 LudwigVanQuixote
They are a bunch of total losers who used to post here before Charles got fed up with the endless Beavis and Butthead like stupidity of them - and their racism, fascism, homophobia and anti-science.
Since then they do nothing but stalk the blog and and hang out at their own cesspool blog whining about how they were unfairly kicked out for being genocide preaching asswipes or other such scummy things and plotting revenge in self aggrandizing fantasies.
They are in general, fat, white, vile, misogynistic, homophobic, aging and very stupid.
To be fair, though, I don't know of any lizards who can fellate themselves. That's a skill we sadly lack...
323 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 10:39:04pm |
re: #319 Querent
if you tax the rich to feed the poor, until there are no rich no more...
...then who's going to be left to help the poor??
(they never mention that part of it, do they...)
Dude it's an estate tax we're talking about here....
Those people did nothing to earn that money so why should they get to keep all of it?
324 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 10:39:12pm |
re: #321 LudwigVanQuixote
And you see, it's cool to be cool with that here.
I personally am of the variety that would prefer to plan and give rather than receive.
*whack*
LOL!
326 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 10:39:32pm |
re: #322 JasonA
To be fair, though, I don't know of any lizards who can fellate themselves. That's a skill we sadly lack...
Five more Yoga classes....
327 | Mark Pennington Wed, May 5, 2010 10:39:50pm |
re: #311 Reginald Perrin
I doubt if he has any balls to torture.
I'll bet he wears a leather codpiece that matches his doublet. Inside is a squeaky toy.
I have no idea what that means. I've had a few beers.
328 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 10:40:05pm |
329 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 10:40:07pm |
re: #314 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Oh my god, you should have seen her in Spartacus. It was the best role of her life.
330 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 10:40:30pm |
re: #322 JasonA
To be fair, though, I don't know of any lizards who can fellate themselves. That's a skill we sadly lack...
Perhaps that is why Rodan keeps throwing up so much?
331 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 5, 2010 10:40:40pm |
re: #320 Floral Giraffe
Nope, she has no weapons in her hands.
Wot?!?! Here weapons are her hands. And her feet. Mmm... especially her feet.
/
333 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 10:41:37pm |
re: #323 jamesfirecat
if their grandparents worked hard enough to be able to leave something for them, why shouldn't they?
(looks at clock, feels eyes cross, remembers the LGF rule about debating on lack of sleep...)
334 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 10:41:51pm |
re: #331 Slumbering Behemoth
Wot?!?! Here weapons are her hands. And her feet. Mmm... especially her feet.
/
Not her feet, dude! Her toes...
335 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 10:42:29pm |
re: #333 Querent
if their grandparents worked hard enough to be able to leave something for them, why shouldn't they?
(looks at clock, feels eyes cross, remembers the LGF rule about debating on lack of sleep...)
Decides to ignore it, because Q's having fun!
336 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 10:42:56pm |
re: #333 Querent
if their grandparents worked hard enough to be able to leave something for them, why shouldn't they?
(looks at clock, feels eyes cross, remembers the LGF rule about debating on lack of sleep...)
I think that 90% of what they saved up still counts as quite a bit of "something" for them to leave their children.
That said once again I am very much on lack of sleep and I lack the good data to make this argument, lets save it for when Charles brings it up tommorow hopefully...
337 | Reginald Perrin Wed, May 5, 2010 10:43:03pm |
re: #330 LudwigVanQuixote
Perhaps that is why Rodan keeps throwing up so much?
I learned something today.
I always thought it was because he drank too much.
338 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 10:44:20pm |
re: #333 Querent
if their grandparents worked hard enough to be able to leave something for them, why shouldn't they?
(looks at clock, feels eyes cross, remembers the LGF rule about debating on lack of sleep...)
I'm not disagreeing with you per se, but remember the golden rule: he who has the gold makes the rules. Our system of inheritance puts the gold in the hands of people who will then make many decisions that affect all of our lives.
Not saying I want to do away with the concept entirely, but that's the way it is.
339 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 5, 2010 10:44:24pm |
340 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 10:44:32pm |
re: #337 Reginald Perrin
I learned something today.
I always thought it was because he drank too much.
Do a google on the name.. you will find a gay porn star - who insists he's really straight (hmmmm?!?!?) who is famous for that talent!
341 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 10:44:42pm |
re: #337 Reginald Perrin
LOTS of interesting things to learn here.
Even, of you didn't want to know them!
*waves*
342 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 10:45:01pm |
re: #337 Reginald Perrin
I learned something today.
I always thought it was because he drank too much.
I was much better off before i learned that, truth be told.
343 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 10:45:41pm |
re: #335 Floral Giraffe
you can ignore that rule -- i know i need to get to sleep....
(would rather encourage family that inherits gaboons of $$$ to start foundation and put that money to work in community, rather than have it go through govt. to who-knows-what. Especially if we're talking really huge gaboons of $$$. Then think of it as one less thing govt. needs to spend on. I'm looking at you, movie stars -- instead of bitching about how we're trashing the planet, start investing all those movie grosses in research!)
345 | Kragar Wed, May 5, 2010 10:46:16pm |
Bunch of perverts with their toe and feet perversions, sheesh.
346 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 5, 2010 10:47:06pm |
347 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 10:47:24pm |
re: #345 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Bunch of perverts with their toe and feet perversions, sheesh.
Meh. There are more bizarre fetishes out there.
348 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 10:47:45pm |
re: #343 Querent
you can ignore that rule -- i know i need to get to sleep...
(would rather encourage family that inherits gaboons of $$$ to start foundation and put that money to work in community, rather than have it go through govt. to who-knows-what. Especially if we're talking really huge gaboons of $$$. Then think of it as one less thing govt. needs to spend on. I'm looking at you, movie stars -- instead of bitching about how we're trashing the planet, start investing all those movie grosses in research!)
I hate to do this after you said that you agree with me but I feel it needs to be said...
It's impractical to ask that one person, even a movie star back roll and entire R&D department.
That really is the kind of thing you need Government money pooled together from all of us to be able to get done...
349 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 10:47:48pm |
350 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 10:47:50pm |
351 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 10:47:57pm |
re: #333 Querent
if their grandparents worked hard enough to be able to leave something for them, why shouldn't they?
(looks at clock, feels eyes cross, remembers the LGF rule about debating on lack of sleep...)
Do not get me started on inheritances. Or, proposition 13. Especially if Olson is in the house. We've been around on Prop. 13 a few times. We're both still bleeding.
But, damnit, I'm right!
//kinda
352 | Kragar Wed, May 5, 2010 10:48:19pm |
353 | Nimed Wed, May 5, 2010 10:48:35pm |
re: #333 Querent
if their grandparents worked hard enough to be able to leave something for them, why shouldn't they?
(looks at clock, feels eyes cross, remembers the LGF rule about debating on lack of sleep...)
Oh, the fairness of inheritance taxes. Bait me again some other time. We have different positions on this, but my experience is that you need at least an hour for this discussion.
354 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 10:48:43pm |
re: #345 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Bunch of perverts with their toe and feet perversions, sheesh.
Yeah, you & FBV and your "bags of love" was it?
355 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 10:49:18pm |
re: #348 jamesfirecat
I hate to do this after you said that you agree with me but I feel it needs to be said...
It's impractical to ask that one person, even a movie star back roll and entire R&D department.
That really is the kind of thing you need Government money pooled together from all of us to be able to get done...
that is true.
i'm not asking them to bankroll the entire thing -- i'm just asking them to put their money where their mouths are.
(grumbly old lizard heads back to corner to gnaw on bones and shreds of gamy-buttock-jerky... i just realized, i too registered in 2004...)
356 | Reginald Perrin Wed, May 5, 2010 10:49:51pm |
re: #340 LudwigVanQuixote
Do a google on the name.. you will find a gay porn star - who insists he's really straight (hmmm?!?!?) who is famous for that talent!
When he started posting at LGF he used the name Trajan, in honor of the first openly gay Roman emperor.
Coincidence?
357 | sagehen Wed, May 5, 2010 10:50:29pm |
re: #288 freetoken
Seems the Tea Partiers don't cotton to Mr. Smith's belief that 3rd generation estate taxes are ok.
The way it was explained to me is that any revenue the state receives from inheritance taxes is a nice bonus, but that isn't the point of it.
It's that we don't want the country to develop a hereditary aristocracy -- that the Vanderbilt and Rockefeller descendents, yea unto the 7th generation, should not be guaranteed great wealth unless they each, in their own turn, do something to replenish it.
So each generation we exempt enough for one middle-class lifetime so people know their children won't ever starve, but then we need to take half the rest.
"A society's wealth, like its water, needs to circulate. Both are unhealthy when allowed to stagnate."
358 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 10:50:31pm |
re: #355 Querent
that is true.
i'm not asking them to bankroll the entire thing -- i'm just asking them to put their money where their mouths are.
(grumbly old lizard heads back to corner to gnaw on bones and shreds of gamy-buttock-jerky... i just realized, i too registered in 2004...)
Do not ask for whome the ban hammer drops, it drops for thee!
359 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 10:50:41pm |
OMG This just posted at the villiage by a little teacake!
Not that I was ever good at even basic math, but over the years it seems my brain has lost all ability to grasp even really basic numbers. Very embarrassing. But I really can’t figure this out, is 1% of 1000 10? I’m asking because I’m wondering if its a good idea to transfer a balance to a credit card that charges 4% fee. So, if I have $3000 is that a $30 charge?
But remember, they can prove that smart grids aren't real and that AGW science is a hoax!
Almost as good as...
Snork,
I had no idea I was in such impressive company. Read it through and learned much. Congratulations on the recognition and I hope this puts to rest where the “smart” people reside. Read it and weep Charlie.
I have a simple physics question about Alternating current that I’m not sure I fully understand. I got an ‘A’ in the class indicating I understood – as I will prove, that was a lie.
At the risk of humiliating myself, about sine waves and voltage (peak voltage). Without getting too technical, why is when I measure my house current with a volt meter, it remains at a constant 110-115 volts?
Looking at the mathematical formulas considering the root mean square, why is that the AC voltage doesn’t fluctuate to any measure? What am I not understanding?
Umm you are missing the definition of RMS...
Remember, these people know the real science!
360 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 10:50:59pm |
361 | PAUL_MACDONALD Wed, May 5, 2010 10:51:05pm |
Ah, found it!
362 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 10:51:14pm |
re: #356 Reginald Perrin
When he started posting at LGF he used the name Trajan, in honor of the first openly gay Roman emperor.
Coincidence?
Wasn't Hadrian gay, too? I remember something about him touring Egypt with a boy along with him or something...
363 | Kragar Wed, May 5, 2010 10:51:37pm |
re: #354 Floral Giraffe
Yeah, you & FBV and your "bags of love" was it?
Have I mentioned lately that I'm immense and immortal?
364 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 10:52:53pm |
re: #353 Nimed
Oh, the fairness of inheritance taxes. Bait me again some other time. We have different positions on this, but my experience is that you need at least an hour for this discussion.
Terribly sorry, Nimed, but i was NOT trying to bait anybody.
(this is the problem with communicating with people whose faces and voices are obscured by the Internet -- you can't see them wink or hear their tone of voice.)
365 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 5, 2010 10:52:56pm |
re: #345 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Bunch of perverts with their toe and feet perversions, sheesh.
Right. And if Ms. Lawless told you it would put her "over the top" if you would just suck on her toes, you'd kick her out of bed for being a pervert?
I hope you would, and I hope you would point her in my direction. I would put my mouth on parts of her she didn't even know she owned.
/TMI?
366 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 10:53:03pm |
re: #361 PAUL_MACDONALD
Ah, found it!
This might just be how late a night it was, but I could only make it through about 500 words of that....
367 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 10:53:06pm |
re: #356 Reginald Perrin
When he started posting at LGF he used the name Trajan, in honor of the first openly gay Roman emperor.
Coincidence?
Well given the established tendency for those who bash gays the loudest to be the deepest in the closet - so much so that they have to drop hints... I doubt it is a coincidence.
Rodan, we are here for you! Come out of the closet! Unlike your other "friends" we don't think you will go to hell for it! We just think you will go to hell for being a hateful, drunken, sociopath who preaches genocide!
369 | Nimed Wed, May 5, 2010 10:53:18pm |
370 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 10:53:20pm |
re: #363 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Have I asked if you go by the name of Jabba on other planets?
371 | freetoken Wed, May 5, 2010 10:53:41pm |
re: #313 jamesfirecat
Because Mr. Adams most people would rather protect the rights of the wealthy out of the futile hope that some day they may themselves be among them, than face the reality of being poor!
Indeed, that is even broached in that little sit-down, with one of the TPers essentially owning that idea.
[I think we just had a small quake]
The crowd there is the Beckian, 912er type of TPer, and they tend to not like the complex ideas of which Mr. Smith likes to speak.
This is real Glenn Beck fan-hood.
Mr. Smith himself is a strong protectionist, as he discusses in a different video posted on Youtube. Just as disastrous for the economy as a Fair Tax, IMO. But it gives one a sense of why Beck is so popular in that region - they are rather decimated, economically.
372 | Kragar Wed, May 5, 2010 10:53:48pm |
re: #362 JasonA
Wasn't Hadrian gay, too? I remember something about him touring Egypt with a boy along with him or something...
Heterosexuality didn't run in the Imperial family much.
373 | tnguitarist Wed, May 5, 2010 10:54:42pm |
Good evening, all. I was trying to read all the comments and get the 'vibe' of tonight's thread, but I got bored at shot to the end.
374 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 10:54:55pm |
re: #369 Nimed
Good man! Gonna start right away.
Atlas shrugged in much less than 100 words.
If you aren't rich, you are worthless. Those that are rich are rich because they are better than you, so you should move out of their way and stop whining about your supposed rights.
375 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 10:55:12pm |
re: #372 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Heterosexuality didn't run in the Imperial family much.
Bet the 40K Imperium is full of manly masculine men.
376 | Kragar Wed, May 5, 2010 10:55:15pm |
377 | PAUL_MACDONALD Wed, May 5, 2010 10:55:22pm |
re: #366 jamesfirecat
This might just be how late a night it was, but I could only make it through about 500 words of that...
Well, I'm going to capitalistically mock you for being a slacker.
378 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 10:55:58pm |
re: #374 LudwigVanQuixote
Atlas shrugged in much less than 100 words.
If you aren't rich, you are worthless. Those that are rich are rich because they are better than you, so you should move out of their way and stop whining about your supposed rights.
I love how her Robin Hood robs ships full of aid for other countries and gives it back to the rich. Brilliant.
379 | The Bunny Wed, May 5, 2010 10:56:10pm |
re: #373 tnguitarist
Good evening, all. I was trying to read all the comments and get the 'vibe' of tonight's thread, but I got bored at shot to the end.
It is a "shoot to the end" kind of night tonight!
380 | tnguitarist Wed, May 5, 2010 10:56:17pm |
re: #373 tnguitarist
Good evening, all. I was trying to read all the comments and get the 'vibe' of tonight's thread, but I got bored at shot to the end.
at=and
ugh. It's dark.
381 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 10:56:20pm |
re: #358 jamesfirecat
Do not ask for whom the ban hammer drops, it drops for thee!
it'd take a pod person replacing me to get me banned. i'm not one of those types that gets off on fighting with people.
(seriously. I'd have registered long before i actually did, but i never felt i had anything to contribute to the discussion and would get eaten alive. THEN they started talking about something i actually KNEW jack about.)
382 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 10:56:37pm |
383 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 10:56:41pm |
re: #376 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
OK, so have you used the name Jabba on other planets?
You immense thing, you!
384 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 10:56:58pm |
re: #375 JasonA
Bet the 40K Imperium is full of manly masculine men.
Don't worry I'm sure there's a gene seed for heterosexuality...
That or at least asexuality given that for all the drinking, feasting, and killing the Space Wolves do we never see them do any wenching...
385 | Dark_Falcon Wed, May 5, 2010 10:57:14pm |
386 | Nimed Wed, May 5, 2010 10:57:32pm |
re: #364 Querent
Terribly sorry, Nimed, but i was NOT trying to bait anybody.
(this is the problem with communicating with people whose faces and voices are obscured by the Internet -- you can't see them wink or hear their tone of voice.)
Oh, ok. Sarcasm detector fail. Bu I meant bait in a good sense. There's a good debate in this issue.
387 | sngnsgt Wed, May 5, 2010 10:57:34pm |
388 | Kragar Wed, May 5, 2010 10:58:11pm |
re: #383 Floral Giraffe
OK, so have you used the name Jabba on other planets?
You immense thing, you!
Well, allow me to be frank and earnest.
On some planets I'm Frank, on others, I'm Earnest.
389 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 10:58:12pm |
re: #381 Querent
it'd take a pod person replacing me to get me banned. i'm not one of those types that gets off on fighting with people.
(seriously. I'd have registered long before i actually did, but i never felt i had anything to contribute to the discussion and would get eaten alive. THEN they started talking about something i actually KNEW jack about.)
I know I know, you seem like a good guy, I was just making a joke about how you mentioned you were surprised to realize you were a member of the class of 2004, many members of which have been banned in the last recent past....
390 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 10:58:35pm |
re: #385 Dark_Falcon
That's just wrong, but still funny.
Hope your job hunt's going better than mine.
391 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 10:58:45pm |
And the teacake repeats:
Where did everyone go? Trying to figure out my math problem? lol
Hehehe
But a shout out to possum... Possum you are the most beta of the beta, I told you, you don't rate.
Now Snork, why don't you post the posts that debunked you? You are after all always whining to debate me? It seems you are the chickenshit eh?
392 | tnguitarist Wed, May 5, 2010 10:59:30pm |
re: #382 JasonA
Things getting better down there?
Still a mess but receding a little. This is such hilly land that there is going to be a lot of standing water left behind. I'm south of the worst of it, but I'm helping friends in the area clean up. One friend lost all his servers for his business.
393 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 10:59:47pm |
re: #386 Nimed
that's why i routinely bake batches of /sarc tags for Lizard use. And still, we have some lizards with hair-trigger hot-buttons.
394 | SpaceJesus Wed, May 5, 2010 11:00:01pm |
re: #391 LudwigVanQuixote
stop picking on defenseless womenfolk
395 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 5, 2010 11:00:07pm |
re: #387 sngnsgt
I. Fucking. Hate. You.
/Not really. Enjoy the show, Lizard. Have all the fun you're entitled too, and then have some more. And then have some that would break a law or two.
396 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 11:00:29pm |
re: #362 JasonA
Wasn't Hadrian gay, too? I remember something about him touring Egypt with a boy along with him or something...
The Roman standard for permitted was a hole and heartbeat... heartbeat was optional.
397 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 11:00:32pm |
This inter-blog warfare is hard to follow at times.
Especially when the other side can't code an auto-update for the comments.
398 | Kragar Wed, May 5, 2010 11:01:37pm |
re: #384 jamesfirecat
Don't worry I'm sure there's a gene seed for heterosexuality...
That or at least asexuality given that for all the drinking, feasting, and killing the Space Wolves do we never see them do any wenching...
Most Space Wolves do that before they're taken, after that, training and dedication.
All bets are off for Chaos Marines though.
399 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 11:01:45pm |
re: #389 jamesfirecat
i know you were making a joke. And still i figured i might as well clarify where i'm coming from (see hair-triggers and hot-buttons above)
i got my start posting on open threads, providing comic relief. (and at that time, LGF really needed comic relief!)
400 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 11:02:18pm |
re: #394 SpaceJesus
stop picking on defenseless womenfolk
But, but, I really am a feminist. That means I treat utterly stupid and silly women just like I would treat utterly stupid and silly men. It also means that if a woman is really smart, I am not threatened and just as impressed with her brilliance as I would be impressed by a man's.
I don't subscribe to the "don't worry your pretty little head" attitude.
401 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 11:02:28pm |
re: #392 tnguitarist
Still a mess but receding a little. This is such hilly land that there is going to be a lot of standing water left behind. I'm south of the worst of it, but I'm helping friends in the area clean up. One friend lost all his servers for his business.
Lemme tell you, I'm more disgusted with our media now than I've ever been before. An American city's underwater and it's lucky to get mentioned in the news. Disgraceful. I know the Not-a-bomber makes for flashy headlines but jeez.
402 | Querent Wed, May 5, 2010 11:03:09pm |
re: #395 Slumbering Behemoth
I. Fucking. Hate. You.
/Not really. Enjoy the show, Lizard. Have all the fun you're entitled too, and then have some more. And then have some that would break a law or two.
i'm going to see them too. treated myself to even closer seats than last time, even. (hell, when i pay that much to see one of my favorite bands, i expect to SEE the band!)
403 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 11:03:42pm |
re: #400 LudwigVanQuixote
But, but, I really am a feminist. That means I treat utterly stupid and silly women just like I would treat utterly stupid and silly men. It also means that if a woman is really smart, I am not threatened and just as impressed with her brilliance as I would be impressed by a man's.
I don't subscribe to the "don't worry your pretty little head" attitude.
Man Talk
404 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 11:04:00pm |
From my LGF recommended book
"the flowers bloomed to make her smile"
I'm liking this!
405 | SpaceJesus Wed, May 5, 2010 11:04:48pm |
re: #400 LudwigVanQuixote
But, but, I really am a feminist. That means I treat utterly stupid and silly women just like I would treat utterly stupid and silly men. It also means that if a woman is really smart, I am not threatened and just as impressed with her brilliance as I would be impressed by a man's.
I don't subscribe to the "don't worry your pretty little head" attitude.
lord possum of chettoshire to the rescue of his fair damsel, lady teacake palinsland.
406 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 11:05:01pm |
re: #404 Floral Giraffe
From my LGF recommended book
"the flowers bloomed to make her smile"
I'm liking this!
NO FG please, if you become an Aes Sedi, we will never see you again and we love your commando butt!
407 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 11:05:11pm |
re: #398 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Most Space Wolves do that before they're taken, after that, training and dedication.
All bets are off for Chaos Marines though.
Ehh if they're devoted to Slanesh then its "hole and a heartbeat, heartbeat optional" as mentioned above. (Seriously I bet at least one noise marine has died trying to f*** a Baneblade... so very many holes....)
If they're devoted to Nurgal they get all the love from Papa Nurgal they could possibly want.
If they're devoted to Khain then they're more likely to get it up dulling to the death with someone.
If they're devoted to Teezenech (sp) then they'll do whatever it takes to get their plans moving.
Like I said it'd be nice to see the space wolves be able to do some wenching (I know they're sterile but that's not the same thing as impotent) if it weren't for the entire man of steel woman of kleenex thing...
408 | The Bunny Wed, May 5, 2010 11:05:14pm |
re: #397 JasonA
This inter-blog warfare is hard to follow at times.
Especially when the other side can't code an auto-update for the comments.
Like most others here I have no clue where this other blog is! It is like only hearing half a joke and missing the punchline but still feeling you have to laugh.
409 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 11:05:16pm |
re: #399 Querent
i know you were making a joke. And still i figured i might as well clarify where i'm coming from (see hair-triggers and hot-buttons above)
i got my start posting on open threads, providing comic relief. (and at that time, LGF really needed comic relief!)
You know, there's this other site not too far from here that really needs to lighten up...
410 | freetoken Wed, May 5, 2010 11:06:14pm |
Neat little animated GIF, showing water vapor in the Norther Hemisphere, one can clearly see the polar circulation, the low pressure systems traipsing around the NH, the arid zones, and then the band of storms near the equator going (seemingly) the other way:
[Link: icons-ecast.wunderground.com...]
411 | tnguitarist Wed, May 5, 2010 11:06:27pm |
re: #401 JasonA
Lemme tell you, I'm more disgusted with our media now than I've ever been before. An American city's underwater and it's lucky to get mentioned in the news. Disgraceful. I know the Not-a-bomber makes for flashy headlines but jeez.
It has been surreal, really. Years ago ('97, I think) we had an ice storm that nailed most of the state. It got more national coverage than this flood and was just a huge inconvenience.
412 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 11:06:30pm |
re: #406 LudwigVanQuixote
NO FG please, if you become an Aes Sedi, we will never see you again and we love your commando butt!
I KNEW I was going to regret that post!
Still, I wanna be an Aes Sedi at this point.
They can go commando too!
Wags is shamelessly.
413 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 11:06:37pm |
re: #405 SpaceJesus
lord possum of chettoshire to the rescue of his fair damsel, lady teacake palinsland.
And Snorkles who always whines that he would always defeat me head to head has yet to acknowledge the posts that completely debunked his BS...
Why is that?
It's not like I didn't prove him to be utterly full of shit and he can't admit that. I know they read it. They read here all the time.
It's on the last thread.
414 | sngnsgt Wed, May 5, 2010 11:07:00pm |
re: #402 Querent
Moving Pictures in it's entirety, I can't miss this! I paid a fortune for good seats and I live in Vegas so it's all good.
415 | Dark_Falcon Wed, May 5, 2010 11:07:23pm |
re: #390 JasonA
Hope your job hunt's going better than mine.
It goes well, but tomorrow is going to be a hard day. I scheduled two interviews and then something else came up that has me boxed in on time. I'll figure out a way to get things done, but it'll be a challenge.
416 | SpaceJesus Wed, May 5, 2010 11:07:29pm |
why does everyone over there have avatars of dogs and wolves and talk about horse books?
...furries?
417 | engineer cat Wed, May 5, 2010 11:07:35pm |
re: late night roman emperors
being gay or not gay was a different proposition in roman times. just about anything a free male did to a slave, male or female, was perfectly respectable - unless the free male was in the passive role during sex
i recommend suetonius, a virtual national enquirer of the first roman emperors. to hear him tell it, tiberius trained froggy little slave boys to hold their breath long enough to be able to give him underwater blow jobs while he was doing laps in his pool in capri
418 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 11:07:53pm |
re: #408 The Bunny
Like most others here I have no clue where this other blog is! It is like only hearing half a joke and missing the punchline but still feeling you have to laugh.
I think it has the word "mock" in there somewhere...
Starts with "Blah"...
419 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 5, 2010 11:08:52pm |
420 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 11:09:04pm |
re: #408 The Bunny
Like most others here I have no clue where this other blog is! It is like only hearing half a joke and missing the punchline but still feeling you have to laugh.
OK, for that I am sorry. There is some history here. The people there have actually made death threats to certain posters here whose identities they discovered in real life. Espescially Charles (though Rodan has promised that his Columbian Uncle would get me, and another one threatened me with his marine brother...)
The point is, that I can't tell you who they are and point you there from here.
421 | sagehen Wed, May 5, 2010 11:09:05pm |
re: #401 JasonA
Lemme tell you, I'm more disgusted with our media now than I've ever been before. An American city's underwater and it's lucky to get mentioned in the news. Disgraceful. I know the Not-a-bomber makes for flashy headlines but jeez.
It'd be getting more attention if the entire Gulf wasn't turning flammable, possibly permanently...
422 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 11:09:29pm |
423 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 11:10:15pm |
re: #421 sagehen
It'd be getting more attention if the entire Gulf wasn't turning flammable, possibly permanently...
Yeah, but Times Square pushed even that aside.
424 | Kragar Wed, May 5, 2010 11:11:04pm |
re: #407 jamesfirecat
Ehh if they're devoted to Slanesh then its "hole and a heartbeat, heartbeat optional" as mentioned above. (Seriously I bet at least one noise marine has died trying to f*** a Baneblade... so very many holes...)
If they're devoted to Nurgal they get all the love from Papa Nurgal they could possibly want.
If they're devoted to Khain then they're more likely to get it up dulling to the death with someone.
If they're devoted to Teezenech (sp) then they'll do whatever it takes to get their plans moving.
Like I said it'd be nice to see the space wolves be able to do some wenching (I know they're sterile but that's not the same thing as impotent) if it weren't for the entire man of steel woman of kleenex thing...
Thats why so many Chapters take recruits starting at 12-13, catch em before raging hormones kick in.
And its Khorne
426 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 11:11:09pm |
427 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 5, 2010 11:11:24pm |
428 | tnguitarist Wed, May 5, 2010 11:11:31pm |
Whatever Charles ends up calling it, I hope he gets the "diary" section up and running. I was reading upthread about people losing their minds during the Clinton administration just as bad as they are now. I've got a great story to tell about a former employer of mine that lost his mind when Clinton was running.
429 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 11:11:46pm |
re: #416 SpaceJesus
why does everyone over there have avatars of dogs and wolves and talk about horse books?
...furries?
They'd like to get it on with a furry?
Or just do it "animal style"!
430 | Kragar Wed, May 5, 2010 11:11:55pm |
re: #404 Floral Giraffe
From my LGF recommended book
"the flowers bloomed to make her smile"
I'm liking this!
Which book?
431 | Dark_Falcon Wed, May 5, 2010 11:11:59pm |
re: #416 SpaceJesus
why does everyone over there have avatars of dogs and wolves and talk about horse books?
...furries?
No, WUB is still one of us. But wolves do attack horses.
432 | tnguitarist Wed, May 5, 2010 11:12:50pm |
re: #421 sagehen
It'd be getting more attention if the entire Gulf wasn't turning flammable, possibly permanently...
It is terrible, but people have lost their lives here. You would think that was newsworthy.
433 | The Bunny Wed, May 5, 2010 11:12:59pm |
re: #420 LudwigVanQuixoteOh oh... No problem!
Thanks for explaining things though. I am happy to just be content with the recent history of this place though, thread by thread.
Thanks.
434 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 11:13:04pm |
re: #429 Floral Giraffe
They'd like to get it on with a furry?
Or just do it "animal style"!
OK so they would be into dog and pony play with a lot of CBT...
Check...
435 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 11:13:05pm |
re: #424 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Thats why so many Chapters take recruits starting at 12-13, catch em before raging hormones kick in.
And its Khorne
Didn't feel like spending time to check.
All I can say at the moment is that there's probably a gene seed for asexuality, either that or the "battle brothers" are taking some lessons from the Spartans if you know what I mean.
I get that there's a mega huge epic war going on, but that never stopped Caphias Cain from finding time to get laid weather with a girl with a prehensile tail, an inquisitor or a member of the imperial navy!
436 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 5, 2010 11:13:19pm |
re: #426 LudwigVanQuixote
It takes it's digs at religion near the end, but it is still funny all around.
437 | sngnsgt Wed, May 5, 2010 11:13:41pm |
re: #402 Querent
I paid too much for mine too. This is a once in a lifetime chance and I don't expect the boys to be touring much more these days.
438 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 11:13:43pm |
re: #433 The Bunny
Oh oh... No problem!
Thanks for explaining things though. I am happy to just be content with the recent history of this place though, thread by thread.
Thanks.
I promise we don't always talk about them. I think a lot of people are just feeling a little fed up of late.
439 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 11:14:11pm |
re: #436 Slumbering Behemoth
It takes it's digs at religion near the end, but it is still funny all around.
Taking digs at misused religion is ok.
440 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 11:14:28pm |
re: #430 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I just got & started the Robert Jordan "Wheel of Time" series. An LGF'r recommend. I'm liking it, so far. Page 130 of the first book.
441 | Kragar Wed, May 5, 2010 11:15:23pm |
re: #435 jamesfirecat
Didn't feel like spending time to check.
All I can say at the moment is that there's probably a gene seed for asexuality, either that or the "battle brothers" are taking some lessons from the Spartans if you know what I mean.
I get that there's a mega huge epic war going on, but that never stopped Caphias Cain from finding time to get laid weather with a girl with a prehensile tail, an inquisitor or a member of the imperial navy!
Thats because CCC is the bomb. Has to be played by Bruce Campbell if they get around to a movie.
And the Gaunt's Ghost series did have a fair amount of implied shagging.
442 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 11:15:56pm |
re: #425 SpaceJesus
Teacake can be, if you want it to be. I think Drew has better things to do.
443 | tnguitarist Wed, May 5, 2010 11:16:01pm |
re: #431 Dark_Falcon
No, WUB is still one of us. But wolves do attack horses.
Would someone please tell me where this "over there" is? I'm out of the loop.
444 | Kragar Wed, May 5, 2010 11:16:18pm |
re: #440 Floral Giraffe
I just got & started the Robert Jordan "Wheel of Time" series. An LGF'r recommend. I'm liking it, so far. Page 130 of the first book.
Sweet, I'll be expecting regular updates.
445 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 11:17:06pm |
446 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 11:17:13pm |
re: #444 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Did you like it? Have you read the series?
447 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 11:17:28pm |
Ohh and they are covering for Snork's cowardice.
They only posted...
391 LudwigVanQuixote Wed, May 5, 2010 10:58:45pm replyquote
* 1
* down
* up
* favorite
* reportBut a shout out to possum… Possum you are the most beta of the beta, I told you, you don’t rate.
But left out the...
Now Snork, why don't you post the posts that debunked you? You are after all always whining to debate me? It seems you are the chickenshit eh?
448 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 11:17:56pm |
re: #429 Floral Giraffe
They'd like to get it on with a furry?
Or just do it "animal style"!
HIDE WINDUPBIRD!!!
449 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 5, 2010 11:18:29pm |
re: #441 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Thats because CCC is the bomb. Has to be played by Bruce Campbell if they get around to a movie.
And the Gaunt's Ghost series did have a fair amount of implied shagging.
Yes, Bruce Cambell would be the perfect guy to play triple C (which I'll call him because CCC can have some unsavory implications if you know what organization uses that anagram for their name) if there was ever a movie made about Warhammer 40K.
We should probably get Adam ("I'll be in my bunk") Baldwin to play Jurgen based on his role as Jayne though a little less lecherous a little more empty headed and good hearted...
450 | Nimed Wed, May 5, 2010 11:18:42pm |
re: #389 jamesfirecat
I know I know, you seem like a good guy, I was just making a joke about how you mentioned you were surprised to realize you were a member of the class of 2004, many members of which have been banned in the last recent past...
I mostly registered to participate in the AGW posts. I knew about the role LGF had had in the Rather memos, though I was abroad at the time. Didn't know there was a potential ASoIaF community in it!
Since then, I've watched this interview at Dangerous minds, and a bit of the bloggingheads debates between Charles and Conn Carrol, which gave me a general idea of the evolution of LGF. These realignments inevitably piss off some of the readership of any blog, as Charles must have known. I admire his courage in the decision.
451 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 11:19:34pm |
re: #443 tnguitarist
If, you were to google, say, little green footballs 2, you might find ONE of the swamps. Full of the "village of the banned" folks who USED to be able to participate here, but did ugly, nasty, things, and aren't allowed on Charles' Blog, anymore. Sick fucks, they are.
Was that a fair post?
452 | SpaceJesus Wed, May 5, 2010 11:19:34pm |
re: #447 LudwigVanQuixote
that place has turned into an AOL chatroom circa 1995
453 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 11:19:35pm |
re: #438 LudwigVanQuixote
I promise we don't always talk about them. I think a lot of people are just feeling a little fed up of late.
Seems we rabble-rousing night-watchmen tend to talk about them more.
Oh well.
454 | Kragar Wed, May 5, 2010 11:19:59pm |
re: #446 Floral Giraffe
Did you like it? Have you read the series?
Yeah, got a couple autographed editions. Got to meet Robert Jordan once. I've read the series a few times. You'll find a lot which seems minor come up again later with big implications.
455 | sagehen Wed, May 5, 2010 11:20:25pm |
re: #432 tnguitarist
It is terrible, but people have lost their lives here. You would think that was newsworthy.
MSNBC is my usual cable news choice, and they've done... well, not in-depth extensive coverage, but a couple of minutes overview each hour, with some video and a listing of the historic places that are in trouble and a suggestion that people give to the red cross.
So I guess the weather channel and twitter feeds is the only media going into any real detail for you?
456 | wee fury Wed, May 5, 2010 11:20:46pm |
re: #447 LudwigVanQuixote
Ohh and they are covering for Snork's cowardice.
They only posted...
But left out the...
Now Snork, why don't you post the posts that debunked you? You are after all always whining to debate me? It seems you are the chickenshit eh?
You are so cute when you bold like that.
457 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 11:21:25pm |
re: #454 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I like it, so far. Good story telling.
459 | Kragar Wed, May 5, 2010 11:22:16pm |
re: #449 jamesfirecat
Yes, Bruce Cambell would be the perfect guy to play triple C (which I'll call him because CCC can have some unsavory implications if you know what organization uses that anagram for their name) if there was ever a movie made about Warhammer 40K.
We should probably get Adam ("I'll be in my bunk") Baldwin to play Jurgen based on his role as Jayne though a little less lecherous a little more empty headed and good hearted...
Nah, too big a guy for Jurgen, not squirrely enough. The guy who plays Ben on Lost would be a good fit.
460 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 11:22:19pm |
re: #453 JasonA
Seems we rabble-rousing night-watchmen tend to talk about them more.
Oh well.
Speaking of which.. Snork, here is where I debunked your stupid pseudo-scientific crap.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
I took two whole posts to take your BS down piece by piece and I used the dreaded technique of using actual facts.
Go for it buddy...
462 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 11:23:27pm |
re: #456 wee fury
You are so cute when you bold like that.
I know, I really shouldn't pick on them any more than I should pick on any other mentally challenged crazy person, but I am having some fun at their expense.
463 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 11:24:08pm |
re: #460 LudwigVanQuixote
Wait, why are there people against modernizing our antiquated electrical grid?
464 | tnguitarist Wed, May 5, 2010 11:24:15pm |
re: #455 sagehen
MSNBC is my usual cable news choice, and they've done... well, not in-depth extensive coverage, but a couple of minutes overview each hour, with some video and a listing of the historic places that are in trouble and a suggestion that people give to the red cross.
So I guess the weather channel and twitter feeds is the only media going into any real detail for you?
We've obviously had a lot of local coverage. When this aren't covered well nationally, people who need help might not get the help that they otherwise would.
465 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 11:25:32pm |
And Lobo makes an admission.
224. lobo91
I wish. Last time I went on a date with anyone other than my soon-to-be-ex-wife was 10 years ago.
Geeze Lobo, last time I got laid was last night...
466 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 11:26:21pm |
re: #463 JasonA
Wait, why are there people against modernizing our antiquated electrical grid?
Well because they see it as part of Obama's sekrit socialist attempts to start a new world order.
I am not joking.
467 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 11:27:43pm |
re: #464 tnguitarist
We've obviously had a lot of local coverage. When this aren't covered well nationally, people who need help might not get the help that they otherwise would.
I know it's bad form to suggest what he posts, but I wish Charles would've given this a thread a day or so. Seems to me like the terrorist actually did have an affect. He had a monopoly on our attention for at least four days.
468 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 11:28:50pm |
re: #466 LudwigVanQuixote
Well because they see it as part of Obama's sekrit socialist attempts to start a new world order.
I am not joking.
Oh come on people. This isn't something that just came up last week.
470 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 5, 2010 11:31:03pm |
re: #445 JasonA
And so, I shall declare all deniers of fact, science, reason and logic to be Juggalos.
Folks like Pat Robertson may not wear the clown make-up, but they play the fool for money none the less.
471 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 11:31:14pm |
Ohh Lobo thinks that Hispanic celebrations in AZ for the day being dimmed by the new law is "crap."
Lobo, it's because of attitudes like that you haven't had a date in a decade.
472 | SpaceJesus Wed, May 5, 2010 11:32:06pm |
re: #470 Slumbering Behemoth
speaking of clown makeup, i think ive found a place to keep me busy the rest of the night
[Link: www.facebook.com...]
473 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 11:33:19pm |
re: #472 SpaceJesus
speaking of clown makeup, i think ive found a place to keep me busy the rest of the night
[Link: www.facebook.com...]
You are a marvelously twisted being my alien tribe mate.
474 | tnguitarist Wed, May 5, 2010 11:33:33pm |
re: #467 JasonA
I know it's bad form to suggest what he posts, but I wish Charles would've given this a thread a day or so. Seems to me like the terrorist actually did have an affect. He had a monopoly on our attention for at least four days.
I'm not a country music fan at all, but there's a lot of history that is going to bite the dust in some of these places.
475 | sagehen Wed, May 5, 2010 11:33:36pm |
re: #464 tnguitarist
We've obviously had a lot of local coverage. When this aren't covered well nationally, people who need help might not get the help that they otherwise would.
Is FEMA/Hom.Sec. doing their job well? If not, where are they falling down?
And for the rest of us, other than Red Cross donations, is there anything useful we can do?
476 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 11:33:58pm |
re: #451 Floral Giraffe
If, you were to google, say, little green footballs 2, you might find ONE of the swamps. Full of the "village of the banned" folks who USED to be able to participate here, but did ugly, nasty, things, and aren't allowed on Charles' Blog, anymore. Sick fucks, they are.
Was that a fair post?
Yes.
477 | tnguitarist Wed, May 5, 2010 11:38:56pm |
re: #475 sagehen
Is FEMA/Hom.Sec. doing their job well? If not, where are they falling down?
And for the rest of us, other than Red Cross donations, is there anything useful we can do?
Everyone can stay the heck away. Seriously. They are having trouble getting around to search for for victims due to the massive amount of onlookers/gawkers. If you're going to donate, remember.....cash is king!!
478 | Nimed Wed, May 5, 2010 11:39:26pm |
re: #451 Floral Giraffe
If, you were to google, say, little green footballs 2, you might find ONE of the swamps. Full of the "village of the banned" folks who USED to be able to participate here, but did ugly, nasty, things, and aren't allowed on Charles' Blog, anymore. Sick fucks, they are.
Was that a fair post?
Holy crap! It's immeditely obvious that there was no web designer among the banned. It's the first time I've seen Reagan, a bald eagle and the Lady Liberty conspire to give you a epilepsy fit.
479 | Shiplord Kirel Wed, May 5, 2010 11:39:37pm |
re: #291 Slumbering Behemoth
Only poseurs and posturing fools openly discuss such possessions. The dumbest and loosest of lips. Not even my closest, must trusted friends are privy to the kinds ordinance I posses.
Which, for the record, is none at all.
I beg to differ. Your statement is probably valid for would-be revolutionaries and secession fantasists who are stashing guns and ammo for their perpetually planned uprising, but law-abiding and sane gun-owners are not crazy or fraudulent when they, too, openly discuss their guns.
I have done so here many times, and others have joined in. My guns are tools and significant artifacts of human experience in their own right. My Martini-Henry rifle, for example, was made in Birmingham England in 1884 and was the property of the Indian Army for generations. It works perfectly to this day.
If it could only speak.
One difference between me and the fantasy revolutionaries is probably that I have professional training in using firearms and some degree of real world experience. I am apparently proficient enough with them, since I am still here.
My idiot cousin joined the Marines btw and survived 4 years of service but I am not sure this is to the Corps' credit.
480 | SpaceJesus Wed, May 5, 2010 11:40:17pm |
re: #473 LudwigVanQuixote
You are a marvelously twisted being my alien tribe mate.
the "discussion" section alone will keep me entertained for hours
481 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 11:43:13pm |
re: #477 tnguitarist
Everyone can stay the heck away. Seriously. They are having trouble getting around to search for for victims due to the massive amount of onlookers/gawkers. If you're going to donate, remember...cash is king!!
re: #474 tnguitarist
I'm not a country music fan at all, but there's a lot of history that is going to bite the dust in some of these places.
I've been following this. I too am really shocked it isn't getting more coverage myself.
482 | tnguitarist Wed, May 5, 2010 11:44:05pm |
re: #475 sagehen
Is FEMA/Hom.Sec. doing their job well? If not, where are they falling down?
And for the rest of us, other than Red Cross donations, is there anything useful we can do?
And yes, all rescue and security personnel are doing everything they can.
483 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 11:45:02pm |
re: #478 Nimed
Holy crap! It's immeditely obvious that there was no web designer among the banned. It's the first time I've seen Reagan, a bald eagle and the Lady Liberty conspire to give you a epilepsy fit.
And Churchill's giving me that "pull your pants up!" look.
484 | shiplord kirel Wed, May 5, 2010 11:45:14pm |
re: #291 Slumbering Behemoth
Only poseurs and posturing fools openly discuss such possessions. The dumbest and loosest of lips. Not even my closest, must trusted friends are privy to the kinds ordinance I posses.
Which, for the record, is none at all.
I beg to differ. Your statement is probably valid for would-be revolutionaries and secession fantasists who are stashing guns and ammo for their perpetually planned uprising, but law-abiding and sane gun-owners are not crazy or fraudulent when they, too, openly discuss their guns.
I have done so here many times, and others have joined in. My guns are tools and significant artifacts of human experience in their own right. My Martini-Henry rifle, for example, was made in Birmingham England in 1884 and was the property of the Indian Army for generations. It works perfectly to this day.
If it could only speak.
One difference between me and the fantasy revolutionaries is probably that I have professional training in using firearms and some degree of real world experience. I am apparently proficient enough with them, since I am still here.
My idiot cousin joined the Marines btw and survived 4 years of service but I am not sure this is to the Corps' credit.
485 | Shiplord Kirel Wed, May 5, 2010 11:49:27pm |
re: #291 Slumbering Behemoth
Only poseurs and posturing fools openly discuss such possessions. The dumbest and loosest of lips. Not even my closest, must trusted friends are privy to the kinds ordinance I posses.
Which, for the record, is none at all.
I beg to differ. Your statement is probably valid for would-be revolutionaries and secession fantasists who are stashing guns and ammo for their perpetually planned uprising, but law-abiding and sane gun-owners are not crazy or fraudulent when they, too, openly discuss their guns.
I have done so here many times, and others have joined in. My guns are tools and significant artifacts of human experience in their own right. My Martini-Henry rifle, for example, was made in Birmingham England in 1884 and was the property of the Indian Army for generations. It works perfectly to this day.
If it could only speak.
One difference between me and the fantasy revolutionaries is probably that I have professional training in using firearms and some degree of real world experience. I am apparently proficient enough with them, since I am still here.
My idiot cousin joined the Marines btw and survived 4 years of service but I am not sure this is to the Corps' credit.
486 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 11:49:51pm |
re: #478 Nimed
Holy crap! It's immeditely obvious that there was no web designer among the banned. It's the first time I've seen Reagan, a bald eagle and the Lady Liberty conspire to give you a epilepsy fit.
And Churchill's giving me that "pull your pants up!" look.
487 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 11:50:25pm |
I have felt a BIG disturbance in the force.
Hope all are well!
489 | tnguitarist Wed, May 5, 2010 11:51:54pm |
Has the LGF site lost its mind, or is it my laptop?
490 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 5, 2010 11:54:45pm |
re: #489 tnguitarist
Has the LGF site lost its mind, or is it my laptop?
Maybe Charles is fondling the code?
491 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 11:54:47pm |
492 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, May 5, 2010 11:56:15pm |
re: #478 Nimed
Holy crap! It's immeditely obvious that there was no web designer among the banned. It's the first time I've seen Reagan, a bald eagle and the Lady Liberty conspire to give you a epilepsy fit.
Dude the real epilepsy comes if you read their comments. Be warned, it is like entering a twisted mirror world where people actually think Palin as super smart and Rush is not racist. It is a dimension of demented.
493 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 5, 2010 11:59:39pm |
re: #492 LudwigVanQuixote
Good night all!
494 | Shiplord Kirel Wed, May 5, 2010 11:59:47pm |
I think the hamsters decided to take the night off. They should look at the great service being done by these heroic Polish hamsters and hang their little furry heads in shame.
495 | Mocking Jay Thu, May 6, 2010 12:02:25am |
re: #492 LudwigVanQuixote
Dude the real epilepsy comes if you read their comments. Be warned, it is like entering a twisted mirror world where people actually think Palin as super smart and Rush is not racist. It is a dimension of demented.
Ever gather the courage to listen to their podcasts?
496 | Nimed Thu, May 6, 2010 12:08:17am |
re: #492 LudwigVanQuixote
Dude the real epilepsy comes if you read their comments. Be warned, it is like entering a twisted mirror world where people actually think Palin as super smart and Rush is not racist. It is a dimension of demented.
re: #495 JasonA
Ever gather the courage to listen to their podcasts?
I'm really trying guys, but I can't make progress. The stoopid is too thick, and I'm stuck at the outer layers. One post title, about LGF and Arizona, is entitled "Pequeños Balones de Fútbol Verde" - "verde" is green singular. This sounds something like "Little balls of green soccer" to somebody who understands Spanish.
497 | engineer cat Thu, May 6, 2010 12:08:24am |
"blogmocracy"?
this is a word with bad mouthfeel
498 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Thu, May 6, 2010 12:09:20am |
re: #495 JasonA
Ever gather the courage to listen to their podcasts?
Once it was more pathetic than anything else.
Rodan: Hi... ummm. we are the VOICE OF THE RESISTANCE! Aren't we Savage?
Savage: Um... (pause) yes and this is our podcast.
Rodan: THose progressives really suck right? I mean how are we going to ... um... stop them from spreading Obamunism?
Savage: (crickets chirping)... Well uhh yeah, Obama really sucks.
Rodan: Super SUCKS!
Savage:
Savage:
Rodan: Like more sucky than a hoover sucks!
Savage: .... Yeah he's really ummm... terrible and leading this country in a bad direction.
Rodan: But HE fears us! We are the voice of the Resistance!
499 | tnguitarist Thu, May 6, 2010 12:09:28am |
Goodnight, fine folks. I'm going to fall asleep to my old standby, Fletch.
Are you on a scavenger hunt, or did I just forget to pay my dinner check?
500 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, May 6, 2010 12:10:36am |
re: #485 Shiplord Kirel
Perhaps my point was largely muddied by my love of beer and BBQ.
That point being... only fools and pretenders openly brag about the measures with which they secure their property and the safety of their loved ones. Again, loose lips. If I go about speaking openly of such things, I will only invite trouble.
Like boasting on how many gold doubloons I have buried in my back yard. Such talk serves only to entice nefarious treasure seekers.
501 | Shiplord Kirel Thu, May 6, 2010 12:11:28am |
re: #494 Shiplord Kirel
Our hamsters fall down on the job, while Polish hamsters mine the moons of Mars. No wonder this country is in trouble, even our virtual rodents can't handle foreign competition.
502 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Thu, May 6, 2010 12:11:35am |
503 | Mocking Jay Thu, May 6, 2010 12:13:27am |
504 | Shiplord Kirel Thu, May 6, 2010 12:14:27am |
re: #500 Slumbering Behemoth
Perhaps my point was largely muddied by my love of beer and BBQ.
That point being... only fools and pretenders openly brag about the measures with which they secure their property and the safety of their loved ones. Again, loose lips. If I go about speaking openly of such things, I will only invite trouble.
Like boasting on how many gold doubloons I have buried in my back yard. Such talk serves only to entice nefarious treasure seekers.
Ah, I get it. I obviously won't be using a 125 year old antique rifle for protection, though it would serve if nothing else came to hand.
505 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Thu, May 6, 2010 12:14:31am |
re: #503 JasonA
Yeah, this. Really bad idea. Only SpaceJesus came back alive...
No he died too. He only came back three days later.
506 | engineer cat Thu, May 6, 2010 12:14:52am |
507 | Mocking Jay Thu, May 6, 2010 12:15:41am |
re: #505 LudwigVanQuixote
No he died too. He only came back three days later.
I should sleep and maybe be productive tomorrow or something like that.
Ciao.
508 | Nimed Thu, May 6, 2010 12:15:54am |
509 | Shiplord Kirel Thu, May 6, 2010 12:16:19am |
re: #505 LudwigVanQuixote
No he died too. He only came back three days later.
Now that there is funny.
510 | freetoken Thu, May 6, 2010 12:17:36am |
Just in time for this morning's Congressional hearings, PJM has put up a piece pimping Sensenbrenners regurgitation of various "skeptics", as well as laudatory claims about Monckton and Carlin.
Ludwig, your mission, should you choose to accept it....
511 | Nimed Thu, May 6, 2010 12:18:54am |
I should get some sleep too. Thanks for the glimpse of the underworld.
512 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Thu, May 6, 2010 12:19:11am |
re: #506 engineer dog
thank you for the warning sir!
i suspect it's full of blogmoc
Well there is a good reason for it. Lots of them keep trying to get back on here. You do not want to be confused with one of them.
IN the mean time, one of them just posted this ohhh so witty and "not racist" post:
Sinko de Mayo? Didn’t the British Navy do that during the Falklands War?
Hurr hurrr hurr...
These are really horrible folks. If you dig around enough you can find praise for Serbians ethnic cleansing Muslims, the worst sorts of slurs directed against gays or women or anyone who doesn't agree - and persistent "wink wink" racism that occasionally surfaces much more openly.
513 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Thu, May 6, 2010 12:20:12am |
re: #510 freetoken
Just in time for this morning's Congressional hearings, PJM has put up a piece pimping Sensenbrenners regurgitation of various "skeptics", as well as laudatory claims about Monckton and Carlin.
Ludwig, your mission, should you choose to accept it...
Lol I will tomorrow perhaps. I do not have the energy right this moment.
Snork's stupid was enough for one evening.
514 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Thu, May 6, 2010 12:20:49am |
515 | freetoken Thu, May 6, 2010 12:32:33am |
re: #513 LudwigVanQuixote
My implication was that you post over there, not here.
When Carlin first burst on the scene I wrote up a bit here... it was immediately attacked by the now banned Alberta Oil Peon, who didn't seem to think I actually knew that about which I wrote.
Few here now hold the AGW deniers in high regard, but such malarky is the post du jour over on PJM (and almost all the rest of the wingnut-o-sphere.)
516 | ozbloke Thu, May 6, 2010 12:37:28am |
Dear Diary, what a day its been.
517 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, May 6, 2010 12:39:51am |
re: #504 Shiplord Kirel
Back in the day...
I knew a dude who bought a large gun safe. The delivers wanted to take it out of it's cardboard box in order to haul it into his house. He said "No, leave it in the cardboard".
Hours later, at the bar, a vague acquaintance says "You had a refrigerator delivered today?"
"Yep, the old one crapped out".
The guy was a bit of a nut, but loose lips still sink ships. And potential burglars love to hear about all the neat stuff you have, and all the particulars of your work schedule.
Guns are only scary when they are in someone's hands. When they're in an empty house, they're just like free money to some folk.
Loose lips. Not even my closest friends know what I do or do not have going on. I'm saving all my secrets for the zombie apocalypse.
518 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Thu, May 6, 2010 12:41:07am |
re: #515 freetoken
My implication was that you post over there, not here.
When Carlin first burst on the scene I wrote up a bit here... it was immediately attacked by the now banned Alberta Oil Peon, who didn't seem to think I actually knew that about which I wrote.
Few here now hold the AGW deniers in high regard, but such malarky is the post du jour over on PJM (and almost all the rest of the wingnut-o-sphere.)
Ahhh.. I see. Well I might just have to do so at some point. However, preaching to the stupid is a thankless task.
Most Lizards are pretty smart. It took over a year of posts here from me to establish how real AGW was - and you helped a lot - Even so, there are still holdouts here who just won't hear it. You are right though. It might have some benefit.
519 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Thu, May 6, 2010 12:49:43am |
Ohhh one more shout to the possum. I do not "fear daddy." I am more than well enough established in hating you assholes that Charles would realize that I was there to give you shit.
But that wouldn't be as much fun as this.
I don't post there because knowing you are reading me here - knowing you are banned with good reason - amuses me.
Care to tell us how you didn't deserve to be banned?
I love how you folks spin stories, my favorite ones involve having multiple accounts on the same address because it was you and your five kids and pet ferret who all had accounts and well that ferret posted what he did.. it wasn't your fault...
Now care to put up Snork's debunking. I know you read it? Why aren't you challenging the economic analysis of the folks at MIT? You all know the science right? Well those of you who can do simple percentages... You know Snork completely wussed out.
You know he wussed out because he is a fraud.
520 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Thu, May 6, 2010 12:52:21am |
And shouting to Paul...
Snork is always whining that he would love to "debate me." I did actually refute his garbage completely. Why is it that he could not discuss that?
You know why also.
As to you leaving on your own accord.. that is a laugh. Perhaps I will ask Charles how many socks yu had. And if you left so happily, why are you still reading here?
521 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, May 6, 2010 12:56:51am |
In parting, some non-traditional Mariachi for this Cinco Seis de Mayo.
Until next time... Peace and Love Lizards. I'm out.
522 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Thu, May 6, 2010 12:58:03am |
523 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Thu, May 6, 2010 1:03:07am |
OK Paul, I'll send Charles an e-mail that sometime I'd like to drop in you asses just to give you hell if you post the two posts that completely debunked Snork.
It would ruin the fun of making you read here, but the idea of some actual science being posted on your blog is worth spoiling that pleasure.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Go for it. I'll be watching.
And I will also ask him why you were banned.
524 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Thu, May 6, 2010 1:07:22am |
Post the debunkings. You know Snork is a fraud. If he isn't, he should be able to counter MIT shouldn't he?
525 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Thu, May 6, 2010 1:07:47am |
Or are YOU afraid of Daddy Snorkles?
526 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Thu, May 6, 2010 1:12:22am |
And by the way Charles has very good reason to ban those who don't tell him about going to that cesspool first. Those sick bastards have threatened his person many times.
If one of my friends just started hanging out with people who threatened to hurt me, I would want to know why also. That is called basic courtesy.
527 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Thu, May 6, 2010 1:13:11am |
And with that I really am out.
528 | ryannon Thu, May 6, 2010 1:51:39am |
re: #517 Slumbering Behemoth
Back in the day...
I knew a dude who bought a large gun safe. The delivers wanted to take it out of it's cardboard box in order to haul it into his house. He said "No, leave it in the cardboard".
Hours later, at the bar, a vague acquaintance says "You had a refrigerator delivered today?"
"Yep, the old one crapped out".
The guy was a bit of a nut, but loose lips still sink ships. And potential burglars love to hear about all the neat stuff you have, and all the particulars of your work schedule.
Guns are only scary when they are in someone's hands. When they're in an empty house, they're just like free money to some folk.
Loose lips. Not even my closest friends know what I do or do not have going on. I'm saving all my secrets for the zombie apocalypse.
Same here. When I bought one of those nifty A-bombs in a Samsonite suitcase that the good people over in the former USSR had developed, I told everyone that it was just a new suitcase and not a nucear weapon I was able to purchase on the black market.
And there she is, sitting right in my closet, waiting for someone to make my day.
/
529 | ryannon Thu, May 6, 2010 1:57:41am |
Anybody messes with me, they're going to regret it, by golly.
531 | ryannon Thu, May 6, 2010 3:09:32am |
And in this morning's news lineup, the usual parade of cruelty, indifference, hatred, lies, mayhem and destructiveness.
It's like a jungle sometimes. It makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under...
532 | Quant Thu, May 6, 2010 3:29:13am |
re: #178 Querent
maybe he uses the 'novels' as a brain colonic -- read 5 chapters of Atlas a day for six days, and on the seventh, your brain will vomit up every bit of BS it's absorbed since the last time you read it.
(that just-completed reading included)
GQ had a funny rant about Ayn Rand called The Bitch is Back. It contains many grains of truth amidst the humour.
533 | laZardo Thu, May 6, 2010 3:38:56am |
Now can we stop saying that the teabaggers "aren't really conservative?"
/also goodevening
535 | laZardo Thu, May 6, 2010 4:24:21am |
re: #531 ryannon
And in this morning's news lineup, the usual parade of cruelty, indifference, hatred, lies, mayhem and destructiveness.
It's like a jungle sometimes. It makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under...
Fix'd.
In the meantime, the top candidate to win the Presidential Election on Monday has nothing but his deceased parents to his name.
/need Jaws of Life to wedge palm from face.
536 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 6, 2010 4:44:39am |
Suspect's Ties to Pakistan Taliban Probed
U.S. and Pakistani investigators are giving increased credence to links between Times Square bombing suspect Faisal Shahzad and the Pakistan Taliban, with one senior Pakistani official saying Mr. Shahzad received instruction from the Islamist group's suicide-bomb trainer.
If the links are verified, it would mark a stark shift in how the Pakistan Taliban—an affiliate of the Taliban in Afghanistan—and related jihadist groups in Pakistan pursue their goals. Until now, they have focused on attacks within Pakistan and in India, not the U.S.
537 | Shiplord Kirel Thu, May 6, 2010 4:45:55am |
Lizardoids, you need to see this to truly understand the radical right today:
The Lost Cause is the name commonly given to a literary and intellectual movement that sought to reconcile the traditional white society of the Southern United States to the defeat of the Confederate States of America in the Civil War of 1861–1865. Those who contributed to the movement tended to portray the Confederacy's cause as noble and most of the Confederacy's leaders as exemplars of old-fashioned chivalry, defeated by the Union armies not through superior military skill, but by overwhelming force. They also tended to condemn Reconstruction.
This 19th century revisionist movement is still relevant because many of its doctrines and myths have been carried over intact to the present day.
There are modern Lost Cause writers of history such as James Ronald Kennedy and his twin brother Walter Donald Kennedy (founders of The League of the South and author of The South Was Right! and Jefferson Davis Was Right! who play down slavery as a cause in favor of Southern Nationalism.
.......
In arguing why the theme of this book is important to contemporary Southerners, the Kennedys write in the conclusion of their work:The Southern people have all the power we need to put an end to forced busing, affirmative action, extravagant welfare spending, the punitive Southern-only Voting Rights Act, the refusal of the Northern liberals to allow Southern conservatives to sit on the Supreme Court, and the economic exploitation of the South into a secondary economic status. What is needed is not more power but the will to use the power at hand! The choice is now yours—ignore this challenge and remain a second-class citizen, or unite with your fellow Southerners and help start a Southern political revolution.[23]Historian David Goldfield characterizes books "such as 'The South Was Right'" as:
.
..explaining that "the War of Northern Aggression was not fought to preserve any union of historic creation, formation, and understanding, but to achieve a new union by conquest and plunder." As for the abolitionists, they were a collection of socialists, atheists, and "reprehensible agitators."[24]
Sound familiar? You betcha!
538 | sattv4u2 Thu, May 6, 2010 4:47:40am |
539 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 4:49:15am |
So... just saw an article. Wile E. Coyote, Genius?
Didn't like Bush.
He doesn't get a paper, does he.
540 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 4:51:02am |
541 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 6, 2010 4:54:14am |
Though his agency was charged with coordinating the federal response to the major oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, Department of the Interior chief of staff Tom Strickland was in the Grand Canyon with his wife last week participating in activities that included white-water rafting, ABC News has learned.
Other leaders of the Interior Department were focused on the Gulf, joined by other agencies and literally thousands of other employees. But Strickland’s participation in a trip that administration officials insisted was “work-focused” raised eyebrows among other Obama administration officials and even within even his own department, sources told ABC News.
/Heck of a job Tommy!
542 | laZardo Thu, May 6, 2010 4:57:45am |
re: #540 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Hey! Zardo!
Whaaa?
Philippine Presidential Elections are on Monday. As it happens, I'm actually gonna go out and vote.
Hopefully I won't end up in Gitmo for voting in two different countries.
543 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 6, 2010 4:57:59am |
The five permanent members of the UN Security Council said they support a nuclear-free zone in the Middle East, according to a unanimous statement circulated during a conference aimed at strengthening nonproliferation.Without mentioning Israel by name, the group voiced support for the “full implementation” of a 1995 resolution intended to free the Middle East from nuclear arms. “We are committed to a full implemented of the 1995 NPT resolution on the Middle East and we support all ongoing efforts to this end,” the statement read. “We are ready to consider all relevant proposals in the course of the Review Conference in order to come to an agreed decision aimed at taking concrete steps in this direction.”
The statement also stressed “serious concern” over the Iranian nuclear program and urged all countries to sign and adhere the 1970 Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.
Three countries are not party to the NPT, including India, Pakistan and Israel, which is widely believed to possess a nuclear arsenal. “We urge those state that are not parties to the treaty to accede as non-nuclear-weapon states and pending accession to the NPT, to adhere to its terms,” the five countries wrote.
544 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 6, 2010 4:58:00am |
It's obvious that "teabagger" is just not a proper term for use in civil political discussion. Fortunately, I have stumbled upon a more useful word and will refer to outlandish TP antagonists as "Inscrotables".
545 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 4:58:31am |
re: #538 sattv4u2
We can't waterboard him but we can "PROBE" him!?!?
546 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 6, 2010 4:58:39am |
re: #542 laZardo
Philippine Presidential Elections are on Monday. As it happens, I'm actually gonna go out and vote.
Hopefully I won't end up in Gitmo for voting in two different countries.
Better check in with Sen. Lieberman.
547 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 6, 2010 4:59:24am |
re: #542 laZardo
Philippine Presidential Elections are on Monday. As it happens, I'm actually gonna go out and vote.
Hopefully I won't end up in Gitmo for voting in two different countries.
Don't blow anything up and you should have any problems.
Who do you like in the election?
548 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 6, 2010 5:00:09am |
re: #547 NJDhockeyfan
Don't blow anything up and you shouldn't have any problems.
Who do you like in the election?
PIMF
549 | laZardo Thu, May 6, 2010 5:02:37am |
re: #547 NJDhockeyfan
Don't blow anything up and you should have any problems.
Who do you like in the election?
The administration candidate. He's actually the second cousin of the one I facepalmed about earlier, but this one is actually a Colonel in the Air Force Reserve and a former Secretary of Defense.
550 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 5:07:12am |
re: #528 ryannon
Same here. When I bought one of those nifty A-bombs in a Samsonite suitcase that the good people over in the former USSR had developed, I told everyone that it was just a new suitcase and not a nucear weapon I was able to purchase on the black market.
And there she is, sitting right in my closet, waiting for someone to make my day.
/
"My student loan people called me. Said that I am behind on my student loan. In fact, they said I've never made a payment, and that they know I did not attend college. Asked me what I did with the money. I said, I bought a nuclear device with it, and I'd really appreciate it if they'd never call me again."
-Steven Wright
551 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 6, 2010 5:17:49am |
Call Them What They Are: Illegal Aliens
By Ed Koch
The push is on for providing amnesty to the estimated 12 to 20 million illegal aliens in this country. The supporters of this effort include President Barack Obama, former president George W. Bush, Senator John McCain, Majority Leader Harry Reid and New York Senator Chuck Schumer. Senator Schumer is now chairman of the immigration subcommittee previously chaired by the late Senator Ted Kennedy, a major amnesty proponent.
Amnesty supporters see themselves as taking the high road and claim that amnesty opponents are opposed to immigration, when nothing could be further from the truth. Many amnesty opponents actually support expanding legal immigration. Currently, the U.S. has the highest legal immigration in the world. Every year, we allow 750,000 immigrants to enter the country legally and make them eligible for citizenship within five years. Two hundred and fifty thousand aslyees are also permitted to enter annually. Those legal immigrants have the
right to work and earn a living; the asylees are eligible to work six months after applying to work. If we need more immigrants, as many think we do to expand the workforce of our graying population, then we can easily increase the number of legal immigrants.If we give the current illegals amnesty, you can be sure that 20 or so years from now, there will be a clamor for another amnesty bill as the illegals will continue to pour in.
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552 | Cato the Elder Thu, May 6, 2010 5:19:33am |
It's good to see some serious overnight Ayn Rand mockery goin' on.
My modest contribution: Did you know that she and Aleister Crowley were separated at birth?
553 | AK-47% Thu, May 6, 2010 5:21:32am |
re: #551 NJDhockeyfan
"If we give the current illegals amnesty, you can be sure that 20 or so years from now, there will be a clamor for another amnesty bill as the illegals will continue to pour in."
Ed is right if we only offer amnesty and not include it as part of a comprehensive package of immigration reform, which would have to include restricting access across our borders, registering and tracking illegals and not hesitating to revoke the visas of those who violate the law and deport them.
554 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 6, 2010 5:21:50am |
CONCORD, Mass. --
The town of Concord has banned the sale of bottled drinking water in town beginning in 2011."We only have one planet and I just don't want to see it spoiled," said Jean Hill, who introduced the measure at Concord's Town Meeting.
Hill said that New York, Illinois and Virginia, as well as more than 100 cities, have taken action to cut spending on bottled water.
The measured passed by Concord would allow the sale of refillable containers of water, which could still be sold and delivered in town. Only plastic bottles that companies cannot reuse would be banned.
"Water is something we can get from the faucet. You can't turn your faucet on and get soda," said Selectwoman Virginia McIntyre, explaining why other plastic bottles would not be banned.
555 | laZardo Thu, May 6, 2010 5:25:43am |
re: #553 ralphieboy
"If we give the current illegals amnesty, you can be sure that 20 or so years from now, there will be a clamor for another amnesty bill as the illegals will continue to pour in."
Ed is right if we only offer amnesty and not include it as part of a comprehensive package of immigration reform, which would have to include restricting access across our borders, registering and tracking illegals and not hesitating to revoke the visas of those who violate the law and deport them.
That and I have a relative that has effectively been "illegal" in the United States for 20+ years. This relative's kids are American, spouse is permanent resident, and they're going through an expensive process just to fix up that relative's status.
(Note: Just in case anyone from the INS is watching, I'm declining to state that relative's gender.)
556 | AK-47% Thu, May 6, 2010 5:26:08am |
re: #554 NJDhockeyfan
Germany simply instituted a country-wide mandatory deposit on all bottled water, as it is very common here, especially carbonated mineral water.
Industry fought it tooth and nail, but it is now an established system. It now applies for most anything sold in a plastic or aluminium container.
557 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 5:27:11am |
re: #554 NJDhockeyfan
"Psst. Hey. Buddy. Wanna buy a litre? Got some good shit, right here. Bottle's never been opened."
558 | Kruk Thu, May 6, 2010 5:28:14am |
re: #557 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
"Psst. Hey. Buddy. Wanna buy a litre? Got some good shit, right here. Bottle's never been opened."
Heh. Only in countries with an endless supply of clean, safe drinking water on tap do people spend a fortune on bottled water.
559 | AK-47% Thu, May 6, 2010 5:28:20am |
re: #555 laZardo
"Comprehensive" also means "expensive" and "will create even more bureaucracy to enforce it".
I think that is one of the major stubling blocks, but not as big a stumbling block as the vested interests who want to retain the perverse patchwork status quo.
560 | sattv4u2 Thu, May 6, 2010 5:29:50am |
Just heard on the news
Freddie Mac is asking for 10.6 BILLION dollars to cover expected losses
This, after it has already lost 8 BILLION in the 1st 3 months of 2010
This, after it's already lost 61 BILLION overall
So when are they being called before congress?
561 | Liberal Classic Thu, May 6, 2010 5:31:52am |
re: #316 Querent
'scratch a libertarian and you'll find someone who's pining for the return of the aristocracy - because he thinks he'd be one.'
Lots of libertarian snark in this thread. Nevertheless, I'm proud to be a social liberal and fiscal conservative.
562 | Kruk Thu, May 6, 2010 5:32:05am |
re: #550 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
"My student loan people called me. Said that I am behind on my student loan. In fact, they said I've never made a payment, and that they know I did not attend college. Asked me what I did with the money. I said, I bought a nuclear device with it, and I'd really appreciate it if they'd never call me again."
-Steven Wright
Heh. I gotta say, I love the student loan system here in New Zealand. The loan is interest free while I'm in New Zealand, and I only have to start making repayments when my income rises about above a set amount. It's great for people who take time out from the workforce for further study, you don't have to worry about the loan compounding while you're not earning.
563 | Cato the Elder Thu, May 6, 2010 5:34:01am |
re: #553 ralphieboy
"If we give the current illegals amnesty, you can be sure that 20 or so years from now, there will be a clamor for another amnesty bill as the illegals will continue to pour in."
Ed is right if we only offer amnesty and not include it as part of a comprehensive package of immigration reform, which would have to include restricting access across our borders, registering and tracking illegals and not hesitating to revoke the visas of those who violate the law and deport them.
Hmm, do you have a plan for all that?
Maybe a grand one?
A. Comprehensive Package of Immigration Reform
Part I. Amnesty. (Well, that was easy!)
Part II. Restrict access across our borders
a. Make plan to restrict accesss
b. [...]
x. Access restricted!Part III. Register and track illegals
[see part II][etc.]
Where did you get your Easy Button?
564 | Cato the Elder Thu, May 6, 2010 5:35:50am |
re: #562 Kruk
Heh. I gotta say, I love the student loan system here in New Zealand. The loan is interest free while I'm in New Zealand, and I only have to start making repayments when my income rises about above a set amount. It's great for people who take time out from the workforce for further study, you don't have to worry about the loan compounding while you're not earning.
I bet they do other evil socialist stuff like restricting the amount of tuition you can be expected to pay to some kind of pay-backable level, hmm?
Wouldn't work here.
565 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 5:38:04am |
re: #560 sattv4u2
Just heard on the news
Freddie Mac is asking for 10.6 BILLION dollars to cover expected losses
This, after it has already lost 8 BILLION in the 1st 3 months of 2010This, after it's already lost 61 BILLION overall
So when are they being called before congress?
HEALTHCARE!
566 | Kruk Thu, May 6, 2010 5:40:32am |
re: #564 Cato the Elder
I bet they do other evil socialist stuff like restricting the amount of tuition you can be expected to pay to some kind of pay-backable level, hmm?
Wouldn't work here.
Yep. The government typically funds about 75% of University fees, with the student paying the rest. Most students leave university with between $10,000 and $15,000 (New Zealand dollars) in loans, though medical and dental students can have up to $100,000. So far I've racked about $30,000 in loans, but that's for a undergraduate science degree, my professional pharmacy degree and my PhD to date.
567 | sattv4u2 Thu, May 6, 2010 5:41:40am |
569 | AK-47% Thu, May 6, 2010 5:44:04am |
re: #563 Cato the Elder
Check my comment #559, and you will get the rest of the story; namely that it will be expensive, time consuming create more government bureaucracy and fly in the face of a lot of entrenched interests.
My point was that amnesty will really only work if it is part of that package. But then again, anything short of a massive, painful, expensive overhaul will fall short of its goals.
Which means we're gonna have this ever-growing problem hanging over our heads until we finally find ourselves declaring declare war on Mexico and start building internment camps...
570 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 6, 2010 5:44:25am |
The student loans we had here in the 60s were decent--government guarantees to lenders kept their risks and interest low (about 2% IIRC). We didn't sart paying until graduation, and had about 10 yrs to pay out. Subsequent versions have turned students into a debt crop.
571 | Cato the Elder Thu, May 6, 2010 5:46:44am |
re: #569 ralphieboy
Check my comment #559, and you will get the rest of the story; namely that it will be expensive, time consuming create more government bureaucracy and fly in the face of a lot of entrenched interests.
My point was that amnesty will really only work if it is part of that package. But then again, anything short of a massive, painful, expensive overhaul will fall short of its goals.
Which means we're gonna have this ever-growing problem hanging over our heads until we finally find ourselves declaring declare war on Mexico and start building internment camps...
Or, we could just take the immigrants that manage to get here and put 'em to work legally to meet the needs of the people who are already hiring 'em.
But that would be too easy and too goddamn humane, wouldn't it?
572 | Kruk Thu, May 6, 2010 5:50:58am |
re: #570 Decatur Deb
The student loans we had here in the 60s were decent--government guarantees to lenders kept their risks and interest low (about 2% IIRC). We didn't sart paying until graduation, and had about 10 yrs to pay out. Subsequent versions have turned students into a debt crop.
The New Zealand system has the Goverment lending the money directly, and the tax department recouping the repayments directly from from the borrower's wages. (Those of us with a student loan use a special tax code, and the repayment is collected on top of our normal deductions.) It's low risk for all concerned, as you can't escape repayment without engaging in tax fraud, and the Government can't change the rates or interest without alienating a huge number of voters.
573 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 6, 2010 5:55:17am |
re: #572 Kruk
Makes sense--one downside of our system was a high default rate and poor policing. The lenders just passed the losses on to the gov. It didn't help that we graduated into a stiff recession.
575 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 6:00:20am |
Hey everyone. This has been an interesting couple of days. I've had two small consulting/contracting firms contact me about what looks to be the same job. I don't think either has the contract yet and they're looking to see who they can recruit first. Both offer better benefits than I'm getting now and one told me a salary range that's more than I'm currently getting.
One of them wants me to sign a letter of intent. I need to look at that more closely. I told the second firm that contacted me about the first one. Waiting for their response.
576 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 6, 2010 6:02:18am |
re: #575 Mad Al-Jaffee
Hey everyone. This has been an interesting couple of days. I've had two small consulting/contracting firms contact me about what looks to be the same job. I don't think either has the contract yet and they're looking to see who they can recruit first. Both offer better benefits than I'm getting now and one told me a salary range that's more than I'm currently getting.
One of them wants me to sign a letter of intent. I need to look at that more closely. I told the second firm that contacted me about the first one. Waiting for their response.
Steal it from both of them if you can.
577 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 6, 2010 6:02:41am |
re: #575 Mad Al-Jaffee
Either setup looks like a good sign.
578 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 6, 2010 6:02:51am |
Well, this is bullshit.
[Link: www.nbcbayarea.com...]
579 | Kruk Thu, May 6, 2010 6:03:08am |
Anyone else watching the UK elections with interest? Not only is this the closesly election in 30 plus years (a hung parliment looks a real possibility), but the win could well be a poisoned chalice. Whoever wins will have to make massive cuts to balance the budget, and they could end up being so unpopular they could be out of power for a decade afterwards.
580 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 6:04:28am |
"HEALTHY CHOICES ON MENUS? heh
#1: The Worst “Healthy” Food in America
Cheesecake Factory Bistro Shrimp Pasta
2,819 calories
77 g saturated fat (Yes, four days' worth!)
1,008 mg sodium
It’s hard to say what’s the most shocking part of this dish—the fact that it has nearly one and a half times your daily caloric allotment, or the fact that it somehow manages to keep the sodium count at a reasonable level, in spite of its monstrous proportions. This is the absolute worst dish on the worst menu in America, no small feat considering that it’s surrounded by other plates that surge past the 2,000-calorie limit. Forget the fact that it has shrimp in it. There is nothing nutritionally redeeming about this platter.
[Link: health.yahoo.com...]
581 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 6:05:22am |
582 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 6, 2010 6:06:07am |
re: #578 Cannadian Club Akbar
Well, this is bullshit.
[Link: www.nbcbayarea.com...]
It's some kind of BS, either brain-dead administration or a few punks trying to start shit under a blameless cover. Guess we would have to be there.
583 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 6:06:55am |
re: #575 Mad Al-Jaffee
Ernie Capadino: They'll pay you 75 dollars a week.
Kit Keller: We only make 30 at the dairy.
Ernie Capadino: Well then, this would be more, wouldn't it?
-A League of Their Own
584 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 6, 2010 6:08:57am |
re: #580 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
"HEALTHY CHOICES ON MENUS? heh
#1: The Worst “Healthy” Food in America
Cheesecake Factory Bistro Shrimp Pasta
2,819 calories
77 g saturated fat (Yes, four days' worth!)
1,008 mg sodiumIt’s hard to say what’s the most shocking part of this dish—the fact that it has nearly one and a half times your daily caloric allotment, or the fact that it somehow manages to keep the sodium count at a reasonable level, in spite of its monstrous proportions. This is the absolute worst dish on the worst menu in America, no small feat considering that it’s surrounded by other plates that surge past the 2,000-calorie limit. Forget the fact that it has shrimp in it. There is nothing nutritionally redeeming about this platter.
[Link: health.yahoo.com...]
I want some.
585 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 6:10:40am |
re: #578 Cannadian Club Akbar
Ain't that America, You and me
Ain't that America, Something to see
Ain't that America, Home of the Free
Little Pink Houses for you and me.
586 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 6, 2010 6:11:23am |
re: #581 Mad Al-Jaffee
Steal what?
If they want to hire you for the job, then you are probably an important part of the gig. Just go around them if you can. (if there are regulations in place that makes it not possible, ignore this.)
587 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 6, 2010 6:11:29am |
re: #584 NJDhockeyfan
I want some.
Cheese Cake Factory stuff is really good, you just have to know you're messing with your actuarial tables when you hang out there.
588 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 6:13:00am |
re: #586 Cannadian Club Akbar
If they want to hire you for the job, then you are probably an important part of the gig. Just go around them if you can. (if there are regulations in place that makes it not possible, ignore this.)
It's a contract job with a federal agency. The only way to get directly hired for a fed job is to apply through usa jobs, then wait forever to hear nothing about what you applied for. I've been doing that for years.
589 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 6:14:33am |
Morning boys and girls. The letter of the day is:
B
590 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 6:14:39am |
re: #582 Decatur Deb
I agree with you at first glance.
Wearing an American flag t-shirt on Cinco de Mayo, however (though you didn't claim it, the Administration is) is not analogous to wearing a "Rebel Flag" t-shirt on Martin Luther King Day to a mostly African American high school.
Administration is wrong.
592 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 6, 2010 6:15:23am |
re: #582 Decatur Deb
It's some kind of BS, either brain-dead administration or a few punks trying to start shit under a blameless cover. Guess we would have to be there.
"I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican Heritage Day," Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student
When did it become Mexican Heritage Day?
593 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 6:16:27am |
re: #592 Cannadian Club Akbar
"I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican Heritage Day," Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student
When did it become Mexican Heritage Day?
How do you say "kiss my ass" in Spanish?
594 | laZardo Thu, May 6, 2010 6:17:29am |
re: #589 Locker
Morning boys and girls. The letter of the day is:
B
Rules 1 & 2...are for newfags*.
/DISCLAIMER: Referencing a certain internet hub where '-fag' is a generic descriptive suffix for anyone, regardless of actual sexual orientation.
595 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 6, 2010 6:17:31am |
re: #593 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
How do you say "kiss my ass" in Spanish?
Not sure, but coolo(sp?) is in there somewhere.
/
596 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 6, 2010 6:18:01am |
re: #590 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I agree with you at first glance.
Wearing an American flag t-shirt on Cinco de Mayo, however (though you didn't claim it, the Administration is) is not analogous to wearing a "Rebel Flag" t-shirt on Martin Luther King Day to a mostly African American high school.
Administration is wrong.
Probably so, but kids are smart enough to put them in an impossible position. Most of the "outrage" stories coming out of our schools are massive simplifications, either through lazy journalism or partisan manipulation. Because kids are involved, all buttons are "Hot".
597 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 6, 2010 6:20:10am |
re: #592 Cannadian Club Akbar
"I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican Heritage Day," Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student
When did it become Mexican Heritage Day?
Note "a" Mexican heritage day. There are Boston high schools where you don't wear orange on 17 March.
599 | reine.de.tout Thu, May 6, 2010 6:20:47am |
re: #592 Cannadian Club Akbar
"I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican Heritage Day," Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student
When did it become Mexican Heritage Day?
I've not heard of that holiday.
At any rate - I don't care if the Mexican or Mexican-American kids want to celebrate their heritage.
But it's silly to be upset because there are other students who aren't of Mexican heritage.
600 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 6, 2010 6:21:16am |
I met the most interesting fellow yesterday. He is an 84 year old WWII vet. He was a medic in the Navy and was station on a rescue ship, the USS PCE(R)852. The medics had to rescue injured soldiers on land and on other ships. He told me they would pull up right beside another ship and jump with a full pack to the other ship. He's written books about his experiences and is working on videos which will be shown on the local public access channel. Here are the books he (Alfred Samuels) wrote on is his website. There are some other books there too.
601 | vinnievin Thu, May 6, 2010 6:22:28am |
602 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 6, 2010 6:22:29am |
re: #597 Decatur Deb
Note "a" Mexican heritage day. There are Boston high schools where you don't wear orange on 17 March.
Why not where orange?
604 | vinnievin Thu, May 6, 2010 6:23:22am |
re: #44 jamesfirecat
They're inability to say what part of government they want to make smaller.
But not their inability to use homonyms correctly.
606 | lostlakehiker Thu, May 6, 2010 6:23:40am |
re: #76 SpaceJesus
and they like to fantasize that the founding fathers would have been in favor of their anti-tax poseur rebellion against the federal government. I'd like to instruct the tea party folks to look up the Whiskey Rebellion and Shay's rebellion and see how those turned out.
Economists talk about 'revealed preferences'. You can look at peoples' behavior and discern what they really really want. In this case, I'd say what the tea party movement wants is lower taxes and smaller government, not civil war.
They've taken no steps toward civil war, nor toward a putsch. There may be several reasons for this, and one of them surely is that it wouldn't stand a chance. We all know this. They know it too. But another reason is probably that that's not what they want anyhow. What does stand a chance is the project of electing some candidates who don't have a long track record in politics and who would be less likely to acculturate to the Washington way of doing things. They'd be less likely to go along to get along, and they'd be steadfast in voting against further expansions to big government.
They'd probably be less inclined to believe mainstream science when it comes to AGW. This spirit of independent thinking that would be so much the signature of a tea party candidate can shade over with little effort into a spirit of rejecting even irrefutable evidence, just because it comes from the 'establishment'.
They'd see themselves as patriots, which is fine. They might see their opponents as doubtful elements, which would be unfortunate. After the next election, we'll have some actual winners to size up. One, five, a dozen, who can say? Then we'll get some more 'revealed preferences' data.
607 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 6:23:58am |
re: #602 Cannadian Club Akbar
Why not where orange?
Syracuse haters everywhere. No love for the Orangemen.
608 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 6:24:57am |
re: #596 Decatur Deb
Oh, I'm guessing (I admit, I'm guessing) the Admin made some kind of big deal with the Anglo kids that this is a special day for the Hispanic kids. And to show some respect.
The kids, being smart-ass kids wore their American flags (for the first time in their lives, to be buttholes about it)...
That being said, they are in America, and they can wear the American flag if the damn well please.
If one Hispanic kid was wearing a Mexican Flag emblem, the kids had a right to wear the American Flag emblem.
Now, the Hispanic kid who was wearing an American Flag? Well? God bless him/her.
609 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 6, 2010 6:25:12am |
re: #605 Decatur Deb
Thanks--bookmarked.
He got excited telling me about the time he and surviving member of his ship were invited by the Navy for a ceremony in DC. I just sat there in awe while he went on and on about his experiences.
610 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 6, 2010 6:25:19am |
re: #607 Locker
Syracuse haters everywhere. No love for the Orangemen.
Well, they always seem to choke at the Big Dance.
611 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 6:25:28am |
re: #599 reine.de.tout
I like to celebrate Meixcan Heritage Day by turning my hand into a Jennifer Lopez puppet.
Taco flavored keeses!
612 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 6:25:39am |
re: #610 Cannadian Club Akbar
Well, they always seem to choke at the Big Dance.
I had a girlfriend like that once...
613 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 6:25:54am |
re: #611 Mad Al-Jaffee
I like to celebrate Meixcan Heritage Day by turning my hand into a Jennifer Lopez puppet.
Taco flavored keeses!
Oh Kyle, why you no like me?
614 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 6, 2010 6:26:21am |
re: #602 Cannadian Club Akbar
Why not where orange?
Republican/Loyalist crap from (Northern) Ireland--orange is the historical color of the Loyalists. People have died over Orange/Green.
615 | reine.de.tout Thu, May 6, 2010 6:26:37am |
re: #596 Decatur Deb
Probably so, but kids are smart enough to put them in an impossible position. Most of the "outrage" stories coming out of our schools are massive simplifications, either through lazy journalism or partisan manipulation. Because kids are involved, all buttons are "Hot".
I have to wonder what the administration would have done if the kids wearing the US flag shirts had complained that they were offended by the celebration of a Mexican Heritage Day? Would the kids of Mexican heritage have been sent home? Or would the complainers have been sent home? Why is it a complaint one way results in kids being sent home, but a complaint the other way could have resulted in the SAME kids being sent home?
I don't care whose flag anybody wears on their clothes, or who celebrates what. It does bother me that certain rights (to wear what they want to school, since there's no indication anybody violated the school's dress policy) are so sacred one way, but not the other.
616 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 6:27:15am |
re: #602 Cannadian Club Akbar
Why not where orange?
Irish colors?
Brings me to my second point... The don't remove American Flags from the Route of a St Paddy's day parade.
I wonder if the High School took down their American Flag for a day.
618 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 6:27:29am |
619 | laZardo Thu, May 6, 2010 6:28:18am |
re: #611 Mad Al-Jaffee
I like to celebrate Meixcan Heritage Day by turning my hand into a Jennifer Lopez puppet.
Taco flavored keeses!
Hey, go easy on her. She had to date someone with Torsonic Polarity Syndrome.
621 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 6:28:30am |
re: #617 Cannadian Club Akbar
I did not know that.
Syracuse Orange Men?
Another word is "The Fighting Irish of Syracuse University".
622 | Ericus58 Thu, May 6, 2010 6:29:16am |
re: #597 Decatur Deb
Note "a" Mexican heritage day. There are Boston high schools where you don't wear orange on 17 March.
But the wearing of Orange does represent the clash of a specific group of people against another - most notably being violent.
Wearing attire that represents the flag of a Nation that these kids live in specifically should not be seen nor interpreted in the same light.
May 5th may be a national holiday in some countries, but not here in America.
623 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 6:29:33am |
re: #621 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Sorry. I could be wrong.
There are lovely orange groves in the Syracuse, NY areas.
624 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 6:29:56am |
Now you fools got that freaking song stuck in my head.
Don't be fooled by all my money
I still like to eat tacos honey
So crispy on the outside
So super good and yummy
625 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 6, 2010 6:30:30am |
re: #615 reine.de.tout
I have to wonder what the administration would have done if the kids wearing the US flag shirts had complained that they were offended by the celebration of a Mexican Heritage Day? Would the kids of Mexican heritage have been sent home? Or would the complainers have been sent home? Why is it a complaint one way results in kids being sent home, but a complaint the other way could have resulted in the SAME kids being sent home?
I don't care whose flag anybody wears on their clothes, or who celebrates what. It does bother me that certain rights (to wear what they want to school, since there's no indication anybody violated the school's dress policy) are so sacred one way, but not the other.
We always get part of the story. Our AL highschool has such a fear of gang activity that the cheerleaders are not permitted to wear the school colors in some situations. That's what happens with zero-tolerance thinking.
626 | reine.de.tout Thu, May 6, 2010 6:30:39am |
re: #608 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh, I'm guessing (I admit, I'm guessing) the Admin made some kind of big deal with the Anglo kids that this is a special day for the Hispanic kids. And to show some respect.
The kids, being smart-ass kids wore their American flags (for the first time in their lives, to be buttholes about it)...
That being said, they are in America, and they can wear the American flag if the damn well please.
If one Hispanic kid was wearing a Mexican Flag emblem, the kids had a right to wear the American Flag emblem.
Now, the Hispanic kid who was wearing an American Flag? Well? God bless him/her.
I agree.
If the kids were being assholes (and perhaps they were), but they didn't violate the school's dress code or instructions for that day, then the onus is on everybody else to just ignore the assholes. I do it every day.
627 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 6, 2010 6:30:41am |
re: #622 Ericus58
But the wearing of Orange does represent the clash of a specific group of people against another - most notably being violent.
Wearing attire that represents the flag of a Nation that these kids live in specifically should not be seen nor interpreted in the same light.
May 5th may be a national holiday in some countries, but not here in America.
I am wearing an orange shirt to work today. Are there any places I should avoid?
628 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 6:30:42am |
re: #624 Locker
Now you fools got that freaking song stuck in my head.
Ooooh, Ben, I love you so much
You almost make me forget about tacos
631 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 6, 2010 6:32:18am |
re: #622 Ericus58
I said the Admins might be brain-dead. They also might know a lot about the specific kids that we aren't learning from the news media.
632 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 6:32:50am |
re: #628 Mad Al-Jaffee
Ooooh, Ben, I love you so much
You almost make me forget about tacos
I think I'm going to have to hit the taco truck for lunch. 1 dollar (no tax) street tacos. Carne Asada plus onion and cilantro. Mmmm I could eat about 6 today I think. Northgate Blvd in Sacramento if you happen to be a local.
633 | vinnievin Thu, May 6, 2010 6:33:07am |
morning all
it is hard getting to a thread late and starting through 600 comments, responding to people who aren't even here. sigh.
634 | reine.de.tout Thu, May 6, 2010 6:33:17am |
re: #625 Decatur Deb
We always get part of the story. Our AL highschool has such a fear of gang activity that the cheerleaders are not permitted to wear the school colors in some situations. That's what happens with zero-tolerance thinking.
Yes, you're right, we only get part of the story.
There may have been other behavior not discussed in the article because the school keeps that sort of thing confidential, who knows?
I should just chill . . .
635 | Lidane Thu, May 6, 2010 6:33:18am |
re: #611 Mad Al-Jaffee
Except that Jennifer Lopez is Puerto Rican, taco flavored keeses notwithstanding. ;)
636 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 6:33:39am |
re: #633 vinnievin
morning all
it is hard getting to a thread late and starting through 600 comments, responding to people who aren't even here. sigh.
Pretend it's Playboy magazine. Start from the back (bottom) and work in reverse.
637 | lostlakehiker Thu, May 6, 2010 6:34:02am |
re: #542 laZardo
Philippine Presidential Elections are on Monday. As it happens, I'm actually gonna go out and vote.
Hopefully I won't end up in Gitmo for voting in two different countries.
You won't get caught. But really, you shouldn't. If you're an American, you're not bound up in the destiny of the Philippines to where you should be making decisions that those with all their skin in that one game must live with. If you're Filipino, then the same goes for voting in the U.S. Either way, it's not fair to the people whose futures are on the line to have to pool their votes with people like you who can afford to be a bit casual about the consequences of the election. This goes deeper than the rational mind. Your fellow countrymen, whichever country that is, need your gut decision.
638 | reine.de.tout Thu, May 6, 2010 6:34:26am |
re: #611 Mad Al-Jaffee
I like to celebrate Meixcan Heritage Day by turning my hand into a Jennifer Lopez puppet.
Taco flavored keeses!
What is it you're gonna do with that Jennifer Lopez hand puppet?
639 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 6:34:53am |
re: #635 Lidane
Except that Jennifer Lopez is Puerto Rican, taco flavored keeses notwithstanding. ;)
I ain't no Mexican, I'm Puerto Rican!
Actually I think the "new" Jennifer Lopez is Mexican. That ghetto trash who never should have been signed in the first place is a Rican.
640 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 6:35:01am |
re: #632 Locker
I think I'm going to have to hit the taco truck for lunch. 1 dollar (no tax) street tacos. Carne Asada plus onion and cilantro. Mmmm I could eat about 6 today I think. Northgate Blvd in Sacramento if you happen to be a local.
I wish we had more of them in DC. There's a couple around, but not near work. There is a little taqueria a couple of blocks away. You can get a decent lunch there for around $5. I think I'm going to get some Peruvian chicken tonight for dinner. Half a grilled chicken and two sides for around $8. And I can get 3 meals out of that.
641 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 6:35:55am |
re: #640 Mad Al-Jaffee
I wish we had more of them in DC. There's a couple around, but not near work. There is a little taqueria a couple of blocks away. You can get a decent lunch there for around $5. I think I'm going to get some Peruvian chicken tonight for dinner. Half a grilled chicken and two sides for around $8. And I can get 3 meals out of that.
What's the side with the Peruvian chicken? Rice? Man I could handle some of that with a stack of warm flat bread and some hot stuff.
642 | vinnievin Thu, May 6, 2010 6:36:10am |
re: #636 Locker
Pretend it's Playboy magazine. Start from the back (bottom) and work in reverse.
Reading the comments about the original post so far, I am not sure it is even worth it to get into. Looks like people are pretty entrenched about what they believe.
I don't consider myself entrenched, but I am stubborn as hell and influencing me takes more effort than many are willing to apply. Not to say I don't have an open mind ... just not as naive as I used to be.
643 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 6:36:12am |
re: #635 Lidane
Except that Jennifer Lopez is Puerto Rican, taco flavored keeses notwithstanding. ;)
I know. And that's one of the reasons that South Park episode is so funny.
644 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 6:36:41am |
I just tried to find Lee Greenwood's "God Bless the USA" sung in Spanish on YouTube... Thought'd it would be hysterical.
They had a Beyonce' version with a Spanish translation printed on it.
Since I love and respect you guys, I didn't link it. It was "teh suck".
645 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 6:36:48am |
re: #641 Locker
What's the side with the Peruvian chicken? Rice? Man I could handle some of that with a stack of warm flat bread and some hot stuff.
I usually get black beans and rice.
646 | Ericus58 Thu, May 6, 2010 6:37:27am |
re: #627 NJDhockeyfan
I am wearing an orange shirt to work today. Are there any places I should avoid?
You sir, get a free pass.
Today only.
After that, Thor's Hammer will fall upon your head.
647 | MandyManners Thu, May 6, 2010 6:37:41am |
re: #639 Locker
BTW, something has been bugging me about your attack on me the other day. You accused me of posting links to increase my post count.
Click on my avatar. I don't need to worry about my post count so, kiss my ass.
648 | Cato the Elder Thu, May 6, 2010 6:37:44am |
In Baltimore the education news is that the school system's head guy (I believe they call him a CEO these days instead of superintendent, it sounds so much more businesslike, doesn't it?) says children who bully cannot be suspended, much less expelled. Here they won't even expel kids who commit arson.
I think a lot of things would change if the "obligation to educate" were reserved for kids who prove themselves to be educable.
649 | laZardo Thu, May 6, 2010 6:37:58am |
re: #637 lostlakehiker
You won't get caught. But really, you shouldn't. If you're an American, you're not bound up in the destiny of the Philippines to where you should be making decisions that those with all their skin in that one game must live with. If you're Filipino, then the same goes for voting in the U.S. Either way, it's not fair to the people whose futures are on the line to have to pool their votes with people like you who can afford to be a bit casual about the consequences of the election. This goes deeper than the rational mind. Your fellow countrymen, whichever country that is, need your gut decision.
It's really hard trying to 'balance' what I'm "supposed to be" given that my Great-grandparents fought in the Philippine Revolution (although from what I hear they retired to private life before the American war). Given that both America and the Philippines have shared their heritages, it's actually hard not to be so casual about it.
Of course, this is Philippine politics, mind. Adlai Stevenson infamously said that "having the thinking man's vote is nice but I need a majority to win," and every three years it shows here.
650 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 6:38:00am |
re: #642 vinnievin
Reading the comments about the original post so far, I am not sure it is even worth it to get into. Looks like people are pretty entrenched about what they believe.
I don't consider myself entrenched, but I am stubborn as hell and influencing me takes more effort than many are willing to apply. Not to say I don't have an open mind ... just not as naive as I used to be.
Yea I used to do that but it gets too frustrating when I want to fight about something that happened last night and all the participants are either asleep, at work or hung over.
Much more fun to get in the mix right away and then browse at my leisure...
651 | lostlakehiker Thu, May 6, 2010 6:38:02am |
re: #291 Slumbering Behemoth
Only poseurs and posturing fools openly discuss such possessions. The dumbest and loosest of lips. Not even my closest, must trusted friends are privy to the kinds ordinance I posses.
Which, for the record, is none at all.
Boasting of being unarmed is probably about as imprudent as boasting of being armed. I figure, don't ask, don't tell. The public isn't inside the need to know circle.
652 | Lidane Thu, May 6, 2010 6:38:29am |
Morning, Lizards! The stench of fail is ripe this morning:
Brown to co-sponsor terrorism bill
Senator Scott Brown tomorrow is signing on to legislation that would strip naturalized Americans of their citizenship if they are found to have aided a foreign terrorist organization.
Brown is joining three other lawmakers in filing the legislation, which comes after Faisal Shehzad was accused of a plot to detonate a car bomb in Times Square on Saturday. Because the Pakistani-born Shehzad is a naturalized American citizen, he was read his Miranda rights and will be tried in a civilian court, rather than before a military tribunal.
The legislation is likely to trigger debate over what rights American citizens should be afforded if they are involved in acts of terrorism. Senator John McCain has called it a mistake to have read Shehzad his Miranda rights, while Fox News commentator Glenn Beck said, "He has all the rights under the Constitution. We don’t shred the Constitution when it’s popular.”
The others sponsoring the bill are Senator Joseph Lieberman, a Connecticut Independent; Representative Jason Altmire, a Democrat of Pennsylvania; and Representative Charlie Dent, a Republican of Pennsylvania.
The four will hold a press conference tomorrow to announce the legislation, called the Terrorist Expatriation Act.
Terrorist Expatriation Act? I'm sure that's just a coincidence.
Also, when Glenn Beck sounds like the reasonable one in this scenario, it's time to give up and call it a day.
653 | Ericus58 Thu, May 6, 2010 6:38:58am |
654 | reine.de.tout Thu, May 6, 2010 6:39:15am |
re: #644 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I just tried to find Lee Greenwood's "God Bless the USA" sung in Spanish on YouTube... Thought'd it would be hysterical.
They had a Beyonce' version with a Spanish translation printed on it.
Since I love and respect you guys, I didn't link it. It was "teh suck".
There's a silly song called "Don't Mess with my Toot-Toot". In Mexico once, I heard it being sung in Spanish. I was ROFL.
655 | vinnievin Thu, May 6, 2010 6:39:33am |
re: #650 Locker
Yea I used to do that but it gets too frustrating when I want to fight about something that happened last night and all the participants are either asleep, at work or hung over.
Much more fun to get in the mix right away and then browse at my leisure...
Okay, I like those carne asada tacos with cilantro and onions too. And lime. Was this awesome little mexican fod stand in norcross (near atlanta) that I frequented constantly. Miss it.
And taco-flavored kisses crack me up. Long live South Park!!!
656 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 6:39:39am |
re: #638 reine.de.tout
What is it you're gonna do with that Jennifer Lopez hand puppet?
Geeve you taco flavored keeses!!!!
657 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 6:40:04am |
re: #648 Cato the Elder
In Baltimore the education news is that the school system's head guy (I believe they call him a CEO these days instead of superintendent, it sounds so much more businesslike, doesn't it?) says children who bully cannot be suspended, much less expelled. Here they won't even expel kids who commit arson.
I think a lot of things would change if the "obligation to educate" were reserved for kids who prove themselves to be educable.
Yea I think we should increase the parallel education tracks and you participate in what you can handle. Can't get along with the normal math and science crowd? All good we'll put you in Advanced Coal Careers 101.
658 | Lidane Thu, May 6, 2010 6:40:15am |
re: #643 Mad Al-Jaffee
I know. And that's one of the reasons that South Park episode is so funny.
Oh I know. I died laughing when she comes into the episode pointing out that she's Puerto Rican and not Mexican. Funny stuff.
659 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 6, 2010 6:40:31am |
re: #654 reine.de.tout
There's a silly song called "Don't Mess with my Toot-Toot". In Mexico once, I heard it being sung in Spanish. I was ROFL.
I heard the zydeco version of that. I love the song.
660 | Renaissance_Man Thu, May 6, 2010 6:41:03am |
re: #626 reine.de.tout
I agree.
If the kids were being assholes (and perhaps they were), but they didn't violate the school's dress code or instructions for that day, then the onus is on everybody else to just ignore the assholes. I do it every day.
Oh, I don't know. If someone is an asshole in the workplace, it's the job of management to do or say something. That's part of management's function - to assist workplace harmony by controlling or weeding out assholes.
Something's funny about this story. I don't think even the most namby-pamby PC unicorn-riding teacher would start something out of nothing and ask kids to go home just for wearing Old Navy T-shirts. This sounds like a whole lot of spin and a whole lot of crap. It sounds, frankly, like two ethnic groups of kids getting into a pissing match at school, and the jawing starting to become nationalistic, and the teacher picking one group, possibly the wrong group, and ending the situation. Then Johnny goes home to his parents and tells them that the teacher sent him home for wearing a flag shirt. Then some reporter comes and asks Anita, who is 15 and has no clear memory of anything beyond the latest Timberlake CD or whatever, and who thus responds with some vague recollection of the white kids at school getting all up in the Mexican kids' faces about something nationalistic. And in the current climate of immigration and nationalistic sensitivity, someone decides it'll make a story.
661 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 6, 2010 6:41:13am |
re: #648 Cato the Elder
In Baltimore the education news is that the school system's head guy (I believe they call him a CEO these days instead of superintendent, it sounds so much more businesslike, doesn't it?) says children who bully cannot be suspended, much less expelled. Here they won't even expel kids who commit arson.
I think a lot of things would change if the "obligation to educate" were reserved for kids who prove themselves to be educable.
I think the driving language is "Free and appropriate" education. If we stare at the word "appropriate" very hard, there might be an answer.
"Pyro, we've decided it's appropriate for you to learn how to make license plates."
662 | reine.de.tout Thu, May 6, 2010 6:41:53am |
re: #659 NJDhockeyfan
I heard the zydeco version of that. I love the song.
Don't Mess with My Toot-Toot.
663 | Daniel Ballard Thu, May 6, 2010 6:42:12am |
re: #606 lostlakehiker
Nice post. You show the departure point for protest signs and rhetoric and real intent. Post wing thought-Your rhetoric obscures your goal. The Tea Party and others (they know who they are) should take note.
664 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 6:42:22am |
re: #656 Mad Al-Jaffee
Geeve you taco flavored keeses!!!
Hennifer would you like to give Reine a kiss?
Oh Si, Si, Si! She's so handsome!
665 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 6:42:46am |
666 | reine.de.tout Thu, May 6, 2010 6:42:57am |
re: #660 Renaissance_Man
Oh, I don't know. If someone is an asshole in the workplace, it's the job of management to do or say something. That's part of management's function - to assist workplace harmony by controlling or weeding out assholes.
Something's funny about this story. I don't think even the most namby-pamby PC unicorn-riding teacher would start something out of nothing and ask kids to go home just for wearing Old Navy T-shirts. This sounds like a whole lot of spin and a whole lot of crap. It sounds, frankly, like two ethnic groups of kids getting into a pissing match at school, and the jawing starting to become nationalistic, and the teacher picking one group, possibly the wrong group, and ending the situation. Then Johnny goes home to his parents and tells them that the teacher sent him home for wearing a flag shirt. Then some reporter comes and asks Anita, who is 15 and has no clear memory of anything beyond the latest Timberlake CD or whatever, and who thus responds with some vague recollection of the white kids at school getting all up in the Mexican kids' faces about something nationalistic. And in the current climate of immigration and nationalistic sensitivity, someone decides it'll make a story.
Ren-Man, once again you are calm and rational. So glad you're here.
667 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 6:43:26am |
re: #659 NJDhockeyfan
I heard the zydeco version of that. I love the song.
I've seen Denise LaSalle sing it at a blues festival.
Speaking of zydeco, Roy Carrier died this week.
[Link: blogs.miaminewtimes.com...]
668 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 6:44:02am |
re: #661 Decatur Deb
I think the driving language is "Free and appropriate" education. If we stare at the word "appropriate" very hard, there might be an answer.
"Pyro, we've decided it's appropriate for you to learn how to make license plates."
Medic! (In an extremely muffled voice)
Anyone who gets that joke, give me your steam id asap.
669 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 6, 2010 6:44:14am |
re: #666 reine.de.tout
Ren-Man, once again you are calm and rational. So glad you're here.
I just brought him here to fill in my blanks.
671 | vinnievin Thu, May 6, 2010 6:45:02am |
Courtesy of formerspook - 'Pass the Tinfoil"
[Link: www.resistnet.com...]
US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
672 | laZardo Thu, May 6, 2010 6:45:08am |
re: #661 Decatur Deb
I think the driving language is "Free and appropriate" education. If we stare at the word "appropriate" very hard, there might be an answer.
"Pyro, we've decided it's appropriate for you to learn how to make license plates."
Back in 7th grade when all the "homeroom" classes were entered into the intramural volleyball league, I had that printed as my nickname on my jersey.
WHO'S MAKING LICENSE PLATES NOW?
:D
673 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 6:45:17am |
re: #663 Rightwingconspirator
Nice post. You show the departure point for protest signs and rhetoric and real intent. Post wing thought-Your rhetoric obscures your goal. The Tea Party and others (they know who they are) should take note.
And thank you for pointing out his/her post... which I had missed. It was, indeed, a good one.
674 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 6:45:26am |
"Jennifer Lopez": Mmm, tacos! So yummy!
Kyle: Stop wasting the tacos on your hand, Cartman!
Cartman: Hey, Ms. Lopez has to eat, too.
Kyle: She's not eating it, it's just coming out her backside!
"Jennifer Lopez": When you eat a taco it comes out your backside too, cholo!
675 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 6:45:38am |
re: #662 reine.de.tout
I. can. not. believe. I've. never. tied. that. song. to. your. nic.
676 | laZardo Thu, May 6, 2010 6:46:15am |
re: #668 Locker
Medic! (In an extremely muffled voice)
Anyone who gets that joke, give me your steam id asap.
Check my nic. Don't ask, I was extremely weeaboo back when I made the name back in 2004.
I suck horribly at the game you're mentioning though, and I removed it a few months ago to save space on my old-ass dell.
677 | reine.de.tout Thu, May 6, 2010 6:46:37am |
re: #675 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I. can. not. believe. I've. never. tied. that. song. to. your. nic.
heh.
Me either, to tell the truth.
678 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 6:46:41am |
re: #660 Renaissance_Man
That post pissed excellence.
680 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 6, 2010 6:46:54am |
re: #671 vinnievin
Courtesy of formerspook - 'Pass the Tinfoil"
[Link: www.resistnet.com...]
US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Wow!! I love crazy people. I really do.
681 | vinnievin Thu, May 6, 2010 6:48:36am |
re: #680 Cannadian Club Akbar
Wow!! I love crazy people. I really do.
I like some of the posts on his (or her) site: formerspook.blogspot.com
682 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 6:50:07am |
re: #676 laZardo
Check my nic. Don't ask, I was extremely weeaboo back when I made the name back in 2004.
I suck horribly at the game you're mentioning though, and I removed it a few months ago to save space on my old-ass dell.
I was completely distracted by your deviant art profile. Cool stuff man, my kid submits there from time to time.
683 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 6:50:15am |
re: #680 Cannadian Club Akbar
Wow!! I love crazy people. I really do.
(shhh. since the government has put a black-out on it, there is no way that we can do proper citizen followup. no.. put your tinfoil hat back on!)
684 | prairiefire Thu, May 6, 2010 6:50:50am |
Branding Obama a "socialist" = fail:[Link: people-press.org...]
685 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 6:50:54am |
re: #678 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That post pissed excellence.
Sir you have a most unique grasp on the English language. One which I sincerely appreciate.
686 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 6, 2010 6:51:19am |
re: #681 vinnievin
I like some of the posts on his (or her) site: formerspook.blogspot.com
The comment section is scary.
687 | lawhawk Thu, May 6, 2010 6:51:56am |
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. The investigation into the TS bombing continues, and the links to Pakistan's Taliban are growing, which isn't much of a surprise. What also isn't surprising is that some politicians are using this as an excuse to try and revoke citizenship of US citizens suspected of being terrorists.
Frakking maroons.
The appropriate thing to do is charge them with treason. You know, the crime that's specifically included in the US Constitution to deal with these scenarios. Instead of creating still more laws that are likely unconstitutional, enforce the ones that are on the books - and in the US Constitution.
Oh, and Shahzad turned out to be even more bumbling than suspected; he left the keys to his getaway car in the Pathfinder, meaning that investigators had yet another piece of evidence to tie Shahzad back to the attack.
688 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 6:52:11am |
re: #685 Locker
Sir you have a most unique grasp on the English language. One which I sincerely appreciate.
689 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 6:52:39am |
re: #685 Locker
Sir you have a most unique grasp on the English language. One which I sincerely appreciate.
690 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 6:53:35am |
re: #687 lawhawk
I won't type the fucker's name. WEC,G is what I am going to use.
691 | reine.de.tout Thu, May 6, 2010 6:53:59am |
re: #683 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
(shhh. since the government has put a black-out on it, there is no way that we can do proper citizen followup. no.. put your tinfoil hat back on!)
692 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 6:54:31am |
re: #687 lawhawk
I love your good mornings but today I keep seeing you as a:
"47-year-old virgin, sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing, "I'm an Oscar Meyer wiener.""
(Greetings and Salutations. I'm associate Bob!)
693 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 6, 2010 6:55:26am |
re: #684 prairiefire
Excellent article, though "Family Values" might have slipped a bit in the recent charts.
694 | laZardo Thu, May 6, 2010 6:55:55am |
re: #682 Locker
I was completely distracted by your deviant art profile. Cool stuff man, my kid submits there from time to time.
Thankee. I've also got a serious-art portfolio.
695 | lawhawk Thu, May 6, 2010 6:56:47am |
re: #692 Locker
Funny, but greets and saluts is short for greetings and salutations and something I picked up from the movie Pump Up the Volume with Christian Slater (and I can do a pretty decent impression).
696 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 6, 2010 6:57:00am |
re: #692 Locker
My father got a letter once that started with "Greetings and Salutations". It was from the gubment. He had been drafted.
697 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 6:57:21am |
re: #695 lawhawk
Funny, but greets and saluts is short for greetings and salutations and something I picked up from the movie Pump Up the Volume with Christian Slater (and I can do a pretty decent impression).
Great movie. Often wanted my own local radio station.
698 | Daniel Ballard Thu, May 6, 2010 6:57:34am |
re: #691 reine.de.tout
We just got word our cookbooks are on the way. We'll take one to the grocery store and pick a dinner first thing.
699 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 6:57:55am |
re: #695 lawhawk
Funny, but greets and saluts is short for greetings and salutations and something I picked up from the movie Pump Up the Volume with Christian Slater (and I can do a pretty decent impression).
I think you mean Heathers.
700 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 6:58:16am |
re: #695 lawhawk
Funny, but greets and saluts is short for greetings and salutations and something I picked up from the movie Pump Up the Volume with Christian Slater (and I can do a pretty decent impression).
My quote was from Demolition Man if no one got it. Sorry but that movie kills me?
What's my boggle? ... How much do you weigh?
701 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 6, 2010 6:59:32am |
re: #694 laZardo
Cool portfolio. One of us has to warp Charles new link feature to Lizard Photography.
702 | lawhawk Thu, May 6, 2010 7:00:19am |
re: #699 Mad Al-Jaffee
I was pretty sure he did it in Pump Up the Volume, but I know he did the line in Heathers too (and a great flick - Wynona was awesome!) If not, then I'm conflating the two movies a bit...
703 | PAUL_MACDONALD Thu, May 6, 2010 7:00:27am |
re: #606 lostlakehiker
Economists talk about 'revealed preferences'. You can look at peoples' behavior and discern what they really really want. In this case, I'd say what the tea party movement wants is lower taxes and smaller government, not civil war.
They've taken no steps toward civil war, nor toward a putsch. There may be several reasons for this, and one of them surely is that it wouldn't stand a chance. We all know this. They know it too. But another reason is probably that that's not what they want anyhow. What does stand a chance is the project of electing some candidates who don't have a long track record in politics and who would be less likely to acculturate to the Washington way of doing things. They'd be less likely to go along to get along, and they'd be steadfast in voting against further expansions to big government.
.
If that were the case, they would have been out in force during the Bush years. They get to hide behind the rhetoric of "lower taxes and smaller government" because they really have a problem with a black guy being president.
It's fairly clear that the tea partiers and their candidates have nothing concrete in the realm of how and what to cut.
704 | Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Thu, May 6, 2010 7:00:44am |
re: #671 vinnievin
Courtesy of formerspook - 'Pass the Tinfoil"
[Link: www.resistnet.com...]
US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Riiiight, because we all know how easy it is to shut up the news networks, the news sites, and the bloggers in this country, don't we?
About the only thing that absolutely guarantees something going completely viral is any type of interference by the government in it's reporting.
But I really like the craziness there, especially since they are one of the nutters outright calling for a thermonuclear weapon to be used to stop the leaking oil. As if that wouldn't produce it's own environmental concerns while doing nothing to the slick already on the surface...
705 | vinnievin Thu, May 6, 2010 7:01:26am |
re: #686 Cannadian Club Akbar
The comment section is scary.
Sometimes the comment section here is scary.
706 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 7:02:22am |
re: #685 Locker
From Talladega Nights
Ricky: Well, Dick, here's the deal: I'm the best there is, plain and simple. I mean, I wake up in the morning and I piss excellence. You know, nobody can hang with my stuff. I'm just a--just a big, hairy, American winning machine. If you ain't first, you're last! You know? You know what I mean? That phrase is trademarked and not to be used without the expressed permission of Ricky Bobby, Inc.
707 | reine.de.tout Thu, May 6, 2010 7:03:28am |
re: #698 Rightwingconspirator
We just got word our cookbooks are on the way. We'll take one to the grocery store and pick a dinner first thing.
I got mine yesterday.
You'll really like it.
Killgore's gardening section is really good, he did a great job.
The recipes are good, we have a good selection of various things.
Jaunte's artwork, INSIDE as well on the cover, is superb. And his assistant George G did a heckuva job putting it all together.
We've sold 23 books thus far!
Anyone wanting to check it out can find the link button here. For Volume 2, it's the orange LULU button.
708 | vinnievin Thu, May 6, 2010 7:03:31am |
re: #704 ausador
Riiight, because we all know how easy it is to shut up the news networks, the news sites, and the bloggers in this country, don't we?
About the only thing that absolutely guarantees something going completely viral is any type of interference by the government in it's reporting.
But I really like the craziness there, especially since they are one of the nutters outright calling for a thermonuclear weapon to be used to stop the leaking oil. As if that wouldn't produce it's own environmental concerns while doing nothing to the slick already on the surface...
The original source of the story is Russia. I stopped researching after I got to resistnet - but I find it both amusing and the epitome of a conspiracy theory.
709 | Digital Display Thu, May 6, 2010 7:04:14am |
re: #698 Rightwingconspirator
We just got word our cookbooks are on the way. We'll take one to the grocery store and pick a dinner first thing.
I'm hoping mine comes in the mail today!
Good Morning Lizards!
710 | steve_davis Thu, May 6, 2010 7:04:29am |
I think it's great that the one poster is planning to bring his "two small children." Perhaps they can be put to work proofreading all the signs.
712 | Digital Display Thu, May 6, 2010 7:05:42am |
re: #711 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
hey!
Good Morning Veggie....I need to find a good movie to watch today
713 | steve_davis Thu, May 6, 2010 7:06:03am |
re: #11 b_sharp
Ewww.
Or even worse, Malkin's balls into Limbaugh's mouth.
Those aren't balls. They're just really hairy, hangin' ovaries.
714 | vinnievin Thu, May 6, 2010 7:06:57am |
re: #710 steve_davis
if only they had someone mass-producing the signs and handing them out. sincerity and typos cannot mix.
/
715 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 7:07:37am |
re: #712 HoosierHoops
I think it'd be a good day to re-watch 12 Monkeys, if you've already seen it.
"Burn After Reading" and "The Men Who Stare At Goats" are also well worth the time. Quirky and fun and interesting.
716 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 7:08:11am |
re: #713 steve_davis
Okay. That was disgusting.
717 | darthstar Thu, May 6, 2010 7:09:05am |
re: #687 lawhawk
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. The investigation into the TS bombing continues, and the links to Pakistan's Taliban are growing, which isn't much of a surprise. What also isn't surprising is that some politicians are using this as an excuse to try and revoke citizenship of US citizens suspected of being terrorists.
Good morning back, and good morning to everyone else. Fear not, lawhawk. While the no-fly list is safe and suspected terrorists of alleged activities could lose their US citizenship if Lieberman and McCain get their way, Lindsey Graham is there to protect their rights to buy firearms. In fact, 1100 people on the no-fly list have bought firearms the last six years and one guy bought 50 lbs of military grade explosives...see? The Second Amendment is still sacred!
718 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 7:09:20am |
re: #715 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I think it'd be a good day to re-watch 12 Monkeys, if you've already seen it.
"Burn After Reading" and "The Men Who Stare At Goats" are also well worth the time. Quirky and fun and interesting.
I think The Pentagon Wars is much more fun ;)
719 | laZardo Thu, May 6, 2010 7:09:31am |
re: #698 Rightwingconspirator
Shit, I still have to order mine. Just need to figure out if the exchange rate is friendly...
720 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 7:09:48am |
I just got a really exciting email:
I am Helena Ethan, a Christian.I have picked you for an inheritance of £ 1.2 million Pounds. Please contact me for more details via email
I know it's legit, because she's a Christian and not emailing me from Nigeria!
721 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 7:10:48am |
re: #712 HoosierHoops
Good Morning Veggie...I need to find a good movie to watch today
Have you ever seen Sullivan's Travels?
722 | laZardo Thu, May 6, 2010 7:11:46am |
The U.S. Embassy reminds U.S. citizens in the Philippines that sporadic violence may occur throughout the Philippines before, during, and after the May 10 Philippine national and local elections. U.S. citizens should pay attention to the media for Philippine government announcements regarding areas likely to experience election-related violence. U.S. citizens living and working in the Philippines are urged to assess their personal security, to remain aware of their surroundings, to keep a low profile, and to avoid public gathering places, including high-profile events, in connection with the May 10 elections.A political or other demonstration could materialize on fairly short notice. If and when you do learn of a demonstration, please plan your travel accordingly: avoid crowds and exercise caution when traveling in the vicinity of a demonstration. As a reminder, even demonstrations intended to be peaceful can turn confrontational and possibly escalate into violence. U.S. citizens are therefore urged to avoid the areas of demonstrations if possible, and to exercise caution if within the vicinity of any demonstrations.
Well hell, and I was planning on attending the miting de avance (final campaign rally) of my candidate tomorrow. q;
723 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 7:11:51am |
724 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 7:11:59am |
re: #712 HoosierHoops
Good Morning Veggie...I need to find a good movie to watch today
And if your in the mood for something a little more... tranquil... I still love Local Hero every time I see it.
725 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Thu, May 6, 2010 7:12:10am |
re: #721 Mad Al-Jaffee
Have you ever seen Sullivan's Travels?
Next he's going to ask you if you like gladiator movies...
726 | Digital Display Thu, May 6, 2010 7:12:19am |
re: #721 Mad Al-Jaffee
Have you ever seen Sullivan's Travels?
No..I'll check it if it's available...I got a thousand channels and there is nothing on...:)
727 | lawhawk Thu, May 6, 2010 7:12:22am |
If fighting the oil spill in the Gulf isn't bad enough, some of the cleanup methods are apparently worse. Besides the notion of burning off the oil (which increases emission/pollutants into the atmosphere), various other methods introduce hazardous chemicals into the water.
Even in the best cases, dispersants are applied in what might be termed a lose-lose strategy. Scientists make the calculation that it is better to have the ocean filled with low concentrations of the dispersant chemicals — which are in themselves mild to moderate poisons — than to have dense oil on the surface or washing up onshore, places where it is most likely to harm wildlife.Necessary evil?
And while most environmentalists support the application of dispersants as a necessary evil to limit the damage, some have assailed an industry policy that guards their chemical makeup. Keeping the exact mix secret makes it harder to evaluate the risks to marine ecosystems and to know what side effects to look for as the crisis unfolds.What is more, the main dispersants applied so far, from a product line called Corexit, had their approval rescinded in Britain a decade ago because laboratory tests found them harmful to sea life that inhabits rocky shores, like limpets, said Mark Kirby, a scientific adviser to the British government on the testing, use and approval of oil spill treatment options.
Given that spills happen frequently (but a lot less frequently than they used to), and large one can happen, I'm just wondering, how are they supposed to clean up the spill? Harsh language?
In the meantime, one of the capture units is being prepared to be lowered to the leak site in the hopes of capturing the oil before it rises to the surface to join the rest of the massive oil slick.
728 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 7:12:52am |
re: #723 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I started watching it and stopped. So...
Neener.
You made it through burn after reading and not the pentagon wars? Interesting. ;)
729 | darthstar Thu, May 6, 2010 7:13:07am |
re: #720 Mad Al-Jaffee
I just got a really exciting email:
I am Helena Ethan, a Christian.I have picked you for an inheritance of £ 1.2 million Pounds. Please contact me for more details via email
I know it's legit, because she's a Christian and not emailing me from Nigeria!
Careful...next thing you know you'll be carrying "her" bags.
730 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 7:13:30am |
re: #710 steve_davis
I think it's great that the one poster is planning to bring his "two small children." Perhaps they can be put to work proofreading all the signs.
I need a "small child" to show me how to use my phancy new fone.
731 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 6, 2010 7:13:45am |
re: #603 laZardo
Orange = Dutch = New York?
/subtle.
Missed this comment earlier. IIRC, there is a Dutch connection--the Loyalists picked up the color in reference to William of Orange.
732 | Kruk Thu, May 6, 2010 7:15:05am |
re: #700 Locker
Any movie where Stallone comes *second* in scenary chewing should be avoided at all costs. :)
733 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 6, 2010 7:15:42am |
re: #730 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I need a "small child" to show me how to use my phancy new fone.
I like what you did there.
734 | Digital Display Thu, May 6, 2010 7:15:59am |
Crazy Heart was a great movie..Except the ending sucked
735 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 7:16:10am |
re: #724 Locker
And if your in the mood for something a little more... tranquil... I still love Local Hero every time I see it.
Waking Ned Divine...
The Englishman Who Went Up A Hill And Came Down A Mountain...
737 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 7:16:33am |
re: #732 Kruk
Any movie where Stallone comes *second* in scenary chewing should be avoided at all costs. :)
If Dennis Leary doesn't do it for you and Sandra Bullock in stretch pants isn't enough I don't know what to tell you. Perhaps a meal at Taco Bell...
738 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 6, 2010 7:16:45am |
re: #724 Locker
And if your in the mood for something a little more... tranquil... I still love Local Hero every time I see it.
One of the best ever, and a Mark Knopfler soundtrack.
739 | jamesfirecat Thu, May 6, 2010 7:17:00am |
re: #732 Kruk
Any movie where Stallone comes *second* in scenary chewing should be avoided at all costs. :)
What about Under Siege? Tommy Lee Jones is gloriously deranged in that movie compared to how normally stoic he is....
740 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 7:17:29am |
re: #737 Locker
If Dennis Leary doesn't do it for you and Sandra Bu
llttock in stretch pants isn't enough I don't know what to tell you. Perhaps a meal at Taco Bell...
741 | Digital Display Thu, May 6, 2010 7:17:51am |
re: #736 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Shhh!
I can't wait till you see it.. Then we can talk about the ending...
742 | Renaissance_Man Thu, May 6, 2010 7:18:05am |
Fred Phelps, civil rights hero?
Interesting.
743 | Kruk Thu, May 6, 2010 7:18:15am |
re: #739 jamesfirecat
What about Under Siege? Tommy Lee Jones is gloriously deranged in that movie compared to how normally stoic he is...
That was Steven Segal, IIRC.
744 | Lidane Thu, May 6, 2010 7:18:20am |
re: #732 Kruk
Any movie where Stallone comes *second* in scenary chewing should be avoided at all costs. :)
Oh, I don't know. I think The Expendables looks like fun:
745 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 6, 2010 7:18:33am |
re: #735 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Waking Ned Divine...
The Englishman Who Went Up A Hill And Came Down A Mountain...
Two winners, and I steal quotes from "Englishman" (Tup, but not so tup...)
746 | Digital Display Thu, May 6, 2010 7:19:09am |
747 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 7:19:11am |
re: #743 Kruk
That was Steven Segal, IIRC.
No man Tommy was the bad guy and he was wigged the fuck out.
748 | lawhawk Thu, May 6, 2010 7:19:27am |
Former NJ Gov. Jon Corzine is cutting the purse strings to NJ Democrats. For the first time in a decade, no campaign donations (and he was good for $500k or more every year), because his new job at a financial firm may conflict with pay to play rules that NJ adopted while Corzine was in office.
749 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 6, 2010 7:19:55am |
re: #742 Renaissance_Man
Fred Phelps, civil rights hero?
Interesting.
Some rights are more civil than others.
750 | jamesfirecat Thu, May 6, 2010 7:20:13am |
re: #743 Kruk
That was Steven Segal, IIRC.
Oh yeah, sorry it's hard to tell those two apart in my head for some reason what with how they're both "double S" (Sylvester Stallone" and "Steven Segal") black haired action movie stars.
751 | Kruk Thu, May 6, 2010 7:20:16am |
re: #747 Locker
No man Tommy was the bad guy and he was wigged the fuck out.
Sorry, I meant that movie had Segal rather than Stallone as the hero.
752 | lawhawk Thu, May 6, 2010 7:20:19am |
re: #743 Kruk
Tommy Lee Jones was the bad guy in the movie - and he was delightfully deranged (and that's a movie where Jones outchewed the usual scenery chewing of Seagal and Gary Busey).
753 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 7:20:49am |
re: #726 HoosierHoops
No..I'll check it if it's available...I got a thousand channels and there is nothing on...:)
It's one of my favorites. Essential movie, especially if you liked the Coen Brothers' O Brother Where Art Thou.
754 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Thu, May 6, 2010 7:20:51am |
re: #747 Locker
No man Tommy was the bad guy and he was wigged the fuck out.
Accompanied by Gary Busey playing his normal on-the-edge psychopathic asshole character.
755 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 7:21:08am |
re: #743 Kruk
That was Steven Segal, IIRC.
TLJ was the nutjob who took over the ship.
Character made me think of Powers Boothe as Jim Jones...
756 | Digital Display Thu, May 6, 2010 7:21:24am |
re: #752 lawhawk
Tommy Lee Jones was the bad guy in the movie - and he was delightfully deranged (and that's a movie where Jones outchewed the usual scenery chewing of Seagal and Gary Busey).
Busey was completely whacked out in that movie.. I just think he played himself
757 | jamesfirecat Thu, May 6, 2010 7:21:43am |
re: #752 lawhawk
Tommy Lee Jones was the bad guy in the movie - and he was delightfully deranged (and that's a movie where Jones outchewed the usual scenery chewing of Seagal and Gary Busey).
Tommy Lee Jones also once out scene chewed Jim Cary.
So how he really can do either end of the spectrum can't he?
758 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 7:22:00am |
759 | Digital Display Thu, May 6, 2010 7:22:04am |
re: #753 Mad Al-Jaffee
It's one of my favorites. Essential movie, especially if you liked the Coen Brothers' O Brother Where Art Thou.
Love that movie!
760 | Slap Thu, May 6, 2010 7:23:15am |
re: #755 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh, man, that was one SERIOUSLY scary portrayal. I always thought Boothe had gigantic ones for taking on that role, and then turning his full force on it. Amazing.
761 | Digital Display Thu, May 6, 2010 7:23:36am |
re: #758 Mad Al-Jaffee
No it didn't!
Yes it did! But I can't say anything cause Veggie hasn't seen it yet..
762 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Thu, May 6, 2010 7:24:05am |
re: #751 Kruk
Sorry, I meant that movie had Segal rather than Stallone as the hero.
Didn't/doesn't Stallone have fairly major control over the casting of the movies he plays in? If so, that would explain the less likelihood of someone being cast (and a role existing) that could potentially out chew scenery compared to his part. (And the scenery bits caught in his mouth could go a ways in explaining his enunciation problems.)
Note however that Tim Curry does the job in _Oscar_.
763 | laZardo Thu, May 6, 2010 7:24:51am |
re: #737 Locker
If Dennis Leary doesn't do it for you and Sandra Bullock in stretch pants isn't enough I don't know what to tell you. Perhaps a meal at Taco Bell...
Every time I watch Demolition Man I keep hearing San Andreas instead of San Angeles.
765 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Thu, May 6, 2010 7:26:02am |
re: #763 laZardo
Every time I watch Demolition Man I keep hearing San Andreas instead of San Angeles.
They could chop bits of that movie out and substitute in the video of Grace Jones singing the song and it would be a vast improvement.
766 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 7:26:29am |
re: #761 HoosierHoops
Yes it did! But I can't say anything cause Veggie hasn't seen it yet..
You're damn straight!
767 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 7:27:28am |
heh. I DVR'd The Naked Gun last night...
768 | Digital Display Thu, May 6, 2010 7:27:51am |
Zombieland was a funnier than hell movie...
769 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 6, 2010 7:28:14am |
770 | laZardo Thu, May 6, 2010 7:28:16am |
re: #768 HoosierHoops
Zombieland was a funnier than hell movie...
Woody Harrelson plays a redneck so well...
771 | jamesfirecat Thu, May 6, 2010 7:29:07am |
772 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 7:29:08am |
773 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, May 6, 2010 7:29:08am |
re: #582 Decatur Deb
It's some kind of BS, either brain-dead administration or a few punks trying to start shit under a blameless cover. Guess we would have to be there.
My money's on the punks. That's the kind of thing we'd do, back in the day.
William
774 | badger1970 Thu, May 6, 2010 7:29:11am |
775 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 7:30:00am |
re: #768 HoosierHoops
Zombieland was a funnier than hell movie...
I still have the dvd from Netflix and I haven't watched it. I actually read some more of The Walking Dead (zombie comic book) instead of watching the zombie movie last night.
I also got Paranormal Activity. I'll probably watch them both (and more Burn Notice season 2) this weekend.
776 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 7:32:03am |
777 | jamesfirecat Thu, May 6, 2010 7:32:11am |
re: #775 Mad Al-Jaffee
I still have the dvd from Netflix and I haven't watched it. I actually read some more of The Walking Dead (zombie comic book) instead of watching the zombie movie last night.
I also got Paranormal Activity. I'll probably watch them both (and more Burn Notice season 2) this weekend.
Welcome to Miami
I like yogurt
Welcome to Miami
I like yogurt
Welcome to Miami
I like yogurt
Welcome to Miami
I like yogurt
(8-bit burn notice)
778 | Digital Display Thu, May 6, 2010 7:32:26am |
re: #775 Mad Al-Jaffee
I still have the dvd from Netflix and I haven't watched it. I actually read some more of The Walking Dead (zombie comic book) instead of watching the zombie movie last night.
I also got Paranormal Activity. I'll probably watch them both (and more Burn Notice season 2) this weekend.
Burn notice is one of my favorite shows...
Zombieland turns into a just hilarious movie....The rules are great
Rule #2 Always double tap
780 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 6, 2010 7:34:20am |
re: #777 jamesfirecat
Welcome to Miami
I like yogurt
Welcome to Miami
I like yogurt
Welcome to Miami
I like yogurt
Welcome to Miami
I like yogurt(8-bit burn notice)
Welcome to Miami.
You are charged with DUI.
781 | vinnievin Thu, May 6, 2010 7:35:16am |
can't seem to carry a tune here, you guys are singing your own songs so I will go back to spending time with my daughter. turned four weeks old today. bye.
782 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 7:35:53am |
re: #781 vinnievin
Oh. Sorry. You thought we were here for you?
783 | Semper Fi Thu, May 6, 2010 7:36:22am |
re: #720 Mad Al-Jaffee
I just got a really exciting email:
I am Helena Ethan, a Christian.I have picked you for an inheritance of £ 1.2 million Pounds. Please contact me for more details via email
I know it's legit, because she's a Christian and not emailing me from Nigeria!
Good morning all.
My goodness. Jump on it. Contact her and provide your bank account number for transfer of funds. Don't forget to ask how much you need to send to make this all happen.
Can I touch you. You're so lucky maybe some will rub off.//
784 | Lidane Thu, May 6, 2010 7:36:24am |
re: #775 Mad Al-Jaffee
I still have the dvd from Netflix and I haven't watched it. I actually read some more of The Walking Dead (zombie comic book) instead of watching the zombie movie last night.
If anything Zombieland is a great counterpoint to The Walking Dead. Both feature zombies, but at least Zombieland won't drive you to drink because of all the heavy drama.
Great story, but man, is The Walking Dead depressing as all hell.
785 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, May 6, 2010 7:36:24am |
re: #602 Cannadian Club Akbar
Since I don't see a /, I'll presume that was serious.
Orange is the color of the Irish protestants - indeed where the very name Orangemen comes from - due to the English King William III of Orange. William's victory over James II at the Battle of the Boyne in 1690 is commemorated by the Orange Institution in Northern Ireland to this day.
Wearing orange on St. Patrick's Day is a very deliberate insult to many Irish Catholics as a result. I had a friend in high school who was the son of a Lutherian minister who would do just that.
William
786 | laZardo Thu, May 6, 2010 7:36:30am |
re: #777 jamesfirecat
Welcome to Miami
I like yogurt
Welcome to Miami
I like yogurt
Welcome to Miami
I like yogurt
Welcome to Miami
I like yogurt
But do you scream...
[sunglasses]
...for ice cream?
787 | vinnievin Thu, May 6, 2010 7:38:15am |
re: #782 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh. Sorry. You thought we were here for you?
Nope, just hoping to have in-depth discussions on topics other than top movies or taco kisses. I do not need to be entertained.
788 | Semper Fi Thu, May 6, 2010 7:38:34am |
re: #783 Semper Fi
Good morning all.
My goodness. Jump on it. Contact her and provide your bank account number for transfer of funds. Don't forget to ask how much you need to send to make this all happen.
Can I touch you. You're so lucky maybe some will rub off.//
I love those emails.
789 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 7:38:42am |
re: #781 vinnievin
Here's a song performed by Groucho Marx:
I don't know what they have to say,
It makes no difference anyway,
Whatever it is, I'm against it.
No matter what it is or who commenced it,
I'm against it.
Your proposition may be good,
But let's have one thing understood,
Whatever it is, I'm against it.
And even when you've changed it or condensed it,
I'm against it.
I'm opposed to it,
On general principle, I'm opposed to it.
[chorus] He's opposed to it.
In fact, indeed, that he's opposed to it!
[Groucho]
For months before my son was born,
I used to yell from night to morn,
Whatever it is, I'm against it.
And I've kept yelling since I first commenced it,
I'm against it!
791 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 7:39:11am |
792 | Digital Display Thu, May 6, 2010 7:39:54am |
re: #781 vinnievin
can't seem to carry a tune here, you guys are singing your own songs so I will go back to spending time with my daughter. turned four weeks old today. bye.
Tell you what...I'll bet that little baby of yours is cuter than heck..Congrads!
OK Lizards..We are transposing the Song Birthday by the Beatles to E flat so everybody can sing along..
And a one..and a two....
793 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 7:40:00am |
re: #784 Lidane
If anything Zombieland is a great counterpoint to The Walking Dead. Both feature zombies, but at least Zombieland won't drive you to drink because of all the heavy drama.
Great story, but man, is The Walking Dead depressing as all hell.
Yeah, it has some of the most disturbing content I've ever read. There might be a tv series based on it, on AMC.
794 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 7:40:12am |
re: #787 vinnievin
Sorry for the snark. The morning threads tend to be a bit "loosy goosy".
You're still being an asshole, but, wanted to let you know.
795 | jamesfirecat Thu, May 6, 2010 7:40:19am |
re: #787 vinnievin
Nope, just hoping to have in-depth discussions on topics other than top movies or taco kisses. I do not need to be entertained.
Then pick a topic and start a discussion.
797 | vinnievin Thu, May 6, 2010 7:40:50am |
re: #791 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Wow.
HEY EVERYBODY! THERE'S A NEW ASSHOLE!
and i found an old one. later.
798 | Lidane Thu, May 6, 2010 7:42:59am |
re: #793 Mad Al-Jaffee
Yeah, it has some of the most disturbing content I've ever read. There might be a tv series based on it, on AMC.
Oh, the TV series is a definite. Frank Darabont is doing it, and they've been announcing casting for it.
I had thought that putting the show on AMC would make it lose some of the horror, but then I thought about it. You really don't need to show the explicit gore-- the situations are often bad enough, and done right can be just as creepy and disturbing as anything in the books.
799 | Semper Fi Thu, May 6, 2010 7:44:01am |
re: #735 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Waking Ned Divine...
The Englishman Who Went Up A Hill And Came Down A Mountain...
Waking Ned Divine. Twice seen and even enjoy thinking about it.
800 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 7:45:16am |
re: #787 vinnievin
Nope, just hoping to have in-depth discussions on topics other than top movies or taco kisses. I do not need to be entertained.
You no like Miss Lopez? Makes me me sooo sad!
801 | Digital Display Thu, May 6, 2010 7:45:31am |
re: #787 vinnievin
Nope, just hoping to have in-depth discussions on topics other than top movies or taco kisses. I do not need to be entertained.
Well excuse the hell out of me! Next time you want to go all in depth go for it..
Folks will engage you here big boy...
804 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 7:48:01am |
re: #798 Lidane
I had thought that putting the show on AMC would make it lose some of the horror, but then I thought about it. You really don't need to show the explicit gore-- the situations are often bad enough, and done right can be just as creepy and disturbing as anything in the books.
AMC does a good job with the violence and gore on Breaking Bad. And they even showed some boobies on it recently! (although it was strippers wearing pasties.) ;)
I've also heard about a proposed movie based on World War Z. I don't know how they would film that book, but I hope they can do it justice.
805 | badger1970 Thu, May 6, 2010 7:49:22am |
re: #799 Semper Fi
Waking Ned Divine. Twice seen and even enjoy thinking about it.
And the soundtrack is great. The Parting Glass.
806 | Killgore Trout Thu, May 6, 2010 7:49:29am |
Nigel Farage injured in plane crash on election day
The former UK Independence Party (UKIP) leader Nigel Farage has been injured in a plane crash in Northamptonshire.
The plane crashed at Hinton-in-the-Hedges Airfield near Brackley.
Mr Farage is being treated for non-life threatening injuries at John Radcliffe Hospital in Oxford and the pilot is at University Hospital in Coventry.
The aircraft came down an hour after polling stations opened for election voting and it is thought the crash was caused by a trailing UKIP banner.
807 | Killgore Trout Thu, May 6, 2010 7:54:33am |
809 | Semper Fi Thu, May 6, 2010 7:58:10am |
re: #803 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Such a happy movie.
The tele booth flying over the cliff with that dear lady to make it all happen. Creative indeed.
811 | Semper Fi Thu, May 6, 2010 7:59:58am |
re: #805 badger1970
And the soundtrack is great. The Parting Glass.
You're right. Excellent sound track. Upbeat and I can still hear it.
812 | Killgore Trout Thu, May 6, 2010 8:00:03am |
re: #808 Mad Al-Jaffee
814 | MrSilverDragon Thu, May 6, 2010 8:01:34am |
Good morning, folks.
"No matter where you go, there you are." -Buckaroo Banzai (although originally stated by Thomas a Kempis apparently, but I like Buck's delivery better).
815 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Thu, May 6, 2010 8:02:24am |
816 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 8:02:32am |
re: #787 vinnievin
Nope, just hoping to have in-depth discussions on topics other than top movies or taco kisses. I do not need to be entertained.
Oh vinnievin, why you no like me?
817 | CarleeCork Thu, May 6, 2010 8:02:42am |
I watched The Last Samurai again last night. I love that movie.
818 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 8:03:07am |
re: #804 Mad Al-Jaffee
AMC does a good job with the violence and gore on Breaking Bad. And they even showed some boobies on it recently! (although it was strippers wearing pasties.) ;)
I've also heard about a proposed movie based on World War Z. I don't know how they would film that book, but I hope they can do it justice.
Breaking Bad is great. That scene with the 2 brothers, one in the ice chest, was crazy. Can't wait for Sunday.
820 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Thu, May 6, 2010 8:04:32am |
re: #819 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Great!
And then later you realize that it was all psychotic torture cat training disguised as innocent fun!
Sort of like us letting our children run around and shoot other children with toy guns and other weapons...
///
821 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 8:04:43am |
822 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 8:06:48am |
re: #820 oaktree
Oh, sorry. I was being sarcastic. You responded to the wrong post, silly.
I'm glad I never make misteaks.
824 | Digital Display Thu, May 6, 2010 8:08:27am |
Breaking News...Lawrence Taylor arrested this morning for raping a 15 yr old girl.
825 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 8:09:30am |
re: #824 HoosierHoops
Breaking News...Lawrence Taylor arrested this morning for raping a 15 yr old girl.
Crazy...
826 | Daniel Ballard Thu, May 6, 2010 8:09:41am |
re: #694 laZardo
Some wonderful photography there. Love Staircase
827 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 8:10:00am |
re: #824 HoosierHoops
Breaking News...Lawrence Taylor arrested this morning for raping a 15 yr old girl.
A 15 year old girl? Holy Roman Polanski, Batman!
Spit!
828 | badger1970 Thu, May 6, 2010 8:11:19am |
A few years ago, the debate on his hall of fame induction with a bit heated over his coke use.
829 | Semper Fi Thu, May 6, 2010 8:11:38am |
830 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 6, 2010 8:11:53am |
re: #824 HoosierHoops
Breaking News...Lawrence Taylor arrested this morning for raping a 15 yr old girl.
The TMZ link I posted didn't mention her age. Wow.
831 | Digital Display Thu, May 6, 2010 8:12:44am |
re: #825 Locker
Crazy...
[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]
Taylor has always had drug issues..Mostly Coke and pot...
Tuna has said his greatest regrets as his coach was never to help him become a good man.. He said He'll never let that happen again
832 | abbyadams Thu, May 6, 2010 8:13:22am |
Jumping in a little late, but if you've not seen this (apologies if it's been posted,) it's worth a look.
Tea Party Leader Takes your Questions.
What. A. Joke.
833 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 6, 2010 8:13:24am |
re: #35 NJDhockeyfan
Bill Maher is slamming Islam in CNN right now.
Cooper: "They say Islam is a religion of peace. Do you buy that?"
Maher: "Yeah, they blow you up. There's a piece of you over there. There's a piece of you over there. There's a piece of you over there."
Can that make up for that line after 9/11 that people have been slamming him for for all these years?
834 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 6, 2010 8:14:10am |
re: #825 Locker
Crazy...
[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]
The pic on your link shows him tackling a Buccaneer. Why does MSNBC hate the Bucs?
/
835 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 8:15:05am |
re: #834 Cannadian Club Akbar
I think it was the uniform they hated.
836 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 8:15:15am |
re: #818 Locker
Breaking Bad is great. That scene with the 2 brothers, one in the ice chest, was crazy. Can't wait for Sunday.
Yeah, and stupid me didn't even know it was a flashback until I read some blog recaps about that episode.
Breaking Bad is like what the Coen Brothers would make if they did a tv show.
837 | badger1970 Thu, May 6, 2010 8:16:41am |
re: #834 Cannadian Club Akbar
Notice the picture was of the orange uniform variety. Everyone not named Steve Young were sacking the Bucs. /
838 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 6, 2010 8:17:51am |
re: #837 badger1970
Notice the picture was of the orange uniform variety. Everyone not named Steve Young were sacking the Bucs. /
I have a Steve Young rookie card. Wanna guess what uniform he was wearing?
839 | lostlakehiker Thu, May 6, 2010 8:19:08am |
re: #703 PAUL_MACDONALD
If that were the case, they would have been out in force during the Bush years. They get to hide behind the rhetoric of "lower taxes and smaller government" because they really have a problem with a black guy being president.
It's fairly clear that the tea partiers and their candidates have nothing concrete in the realm of how and what to cut.
Oh? Here's a start. Cut social security payouts. Rescind the health care takeover. Stop backing mortgages that stand no chance of being paid off by the borrower. Don't hand out student loans when there's little chance the student will graduate---and for sure, don't hand out student loans when the school is so bad that there's no chance a degree from that school will lead to a job. Stop bailing out financial firms that made reckless bets and lost.
End earmarks. At this point, you've made a little progress on balancing the budget, and you begin to enter the opposite of a vicious circle.
Now what the tea party movement completely gets wrong is that this agenda, which is a fairly drastic one, is quite insufficient. Pity to say, taxes will have to go up. Make all social security payments taxable income. (Those who most need that money won't be liable for any taxes anyhow.) Raise rates a couple percent across the board. (The middle class is going to have to be part of the answer when it comes to revenue. The rich aren't tapped out but relying on them to carry the load alone is not feasible.) Don't institute a VAT or other stealth tax, because stealth taxes become cash cows for unrestrained spending and that just worsens the national debt.
As to having not spoken up during the Bush years, give people a little credit for stupidity. Odds are these guys didn't sell all their equity holdings in 2006 and 2007. They sincerely didn't get it that we were spending our way into a fix. Almost by definition, when there's a bubble, people mostly haven't figured out that it's a bubble. But now, sadder and wiser, we know better.
841 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 6, 2010 8:21:38am |
842 | Semper Fi Thu, May 6, 2010 8:24:04am |
Thanks lizards. Things to do now. A little walk first to loosen up. Have a nice day.
843 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 6, 2010 8:25:53am |
Brad Johnson (QB-Bucs) was (and might be the only) the first person to throw a TD to himself.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
844 | Ojoe Thu, May 6, 2010 8:26:19am |
re: #839 lostlakehiker
In the long run, we are not going to get the country onto an even keel unless we BOTH eliminate the deficit AND pay down the national debt to a very small fraction of what it is now.
Probably it will take a constitutional amendment to accomplish this.
Meanwhile our freedom of action as a nation is being eroded by our profligacy.
No politician will say this.
A leader would say this however.
845 | Walter L. Newton Thu, May 6, 2010 8:32:36am |
re: #844 Ojoe
In the long run, we are not going to get the country onto an even keel unless we BOTH eliminate the deficit AND pay down the national debt to a very small fraction of what it is now.
Probably it will take a constitutional amendment to accomplish this.
Meanwhile our freedom of action as a nation is being eroded by our profligacy.
No politician will say this.
A leader would say this however.
I've been saying it for two years... kleptocracy, plutocracy and you add a wonder word... profligacy... all children of the same concept.
But there is a bigger problem, not only will politicians, of either side, admit that this is what our government has become, you damn well can be sure that certain partisan citizens would never cop to this either. Not when all that theft is of such a benefit to some people... figure it out.
846 | Ojoe Thu, May 6, 2010 8:34:43am |
re: #845 Walter L. Newton
It is the very common citizen who will have to change this.
847 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 8:37:33am |
848 | lawhawk Thu, May 6, 2010 8:38:57am |
re: #831 HoosierHoops
Wow. Taylor allegedly raped this girl at a motel in Montebello, NY:
Former Giants great Lawrence Taylor was arrested Thursday in Rockland County in connection with the reported rape of a 15-year-old girl, sources said. Taylor allegedly beat and sexually assaulted the girl and has been charged with third-degree rape, the Journal News was reporting. He will be arraigned Thursday afternoon. The alleged assault happened at a hotel in Montebello, N.Y., earlier Thursday. Taylor was jailed a short time later, the Ramapo Police Department said in a brief statement. Details were scarce, but the town's police chief said more information would be provided at a 3 p.m. press conference. Taylor, 51, played for the Giants from 1981 to 1993 and was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1999. He also competed last year in ABC's "Dancing with the Stars."
849 | lawhawk Thu, May 6, 2010 8:39:32am |
BTW - ignore the link in my 848 to Montebello, NY - that's a kludged link.
850 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 8:40:42am |
re: #848 lawhawk
What the hell is third degree rape?
851 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 6, 2010 8:41:20am |
re: #362 JasonA
Wasn't Hadrian gay, too? I remember something about him touring Egypt with a boy along with him or something...
Antinous. When the young man drowned in the Nile, Hadrian made him a god, which is one of the hazards of love-struck emperors, they do stuff like that.
852 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 8:42:12am |
re: #850 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
What the hell is third degree rape?
Appears statutory rape... under 16.
853 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 6, 2010 8:43:07am |
re: #852 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Appears statutory rape... under 16.
Why wasn't he charged with assault if he beat her?
855 | sagehen Thu, May 6, 2010 8:44:45am |
re: #839 lostlakehiker
I'm going to add -- end farm subsidies. (especially corn -- drastically reducing the amount of high fructose corn syrup we all ingest will also go a long way to reducing long-term medical costs).
I want three new, higher, income tax brackets -- at $500k, $1m and $10m.
Capital gains needs to be folded into earned income, and all of it taxed at the same rate. Income is income is income is income. The one exception is a once-in-a-lifetime pass when you sell your home and don't roll the money into buying a new home.
A $1/gallon increase in the gas tax (and encourage the coastal states, where population density has created some decent public transit, to add another 50c/gallon on top of that). And ten years down the line, do it again.
Drastically scale back the War on Drugs (tm). Legalize marijuana -- take it away from the DEA and give it to the ATF. They already know how to manage the taxes Limit SWAT teams to anti-terror and hostage rescue.
Quadruple fines for violations of EPA standards and OSHA standards, and enforce vigorously. And then again five years later. Instead of hiring thousands more federal lawyers to bring the cases, allow any member of the bar who wants to make the cases on a contingency basis.
856 | lawhawk Thu, May 6, 2010 8:45:06am |
re: #850 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
It's defined as:
§ 130.25 Rape in the third degree.
A person is guilty of rape in the third degree when:
1. He or she engages in sexual intercourse with another person who is
incapable of consent by reason of some factor other than being less than
seventeen years old;
2. Being twenty-one years old or more, he or she engages in sexual
intercourse with another person less than seventeen years old; or
3. He or she engages in sexual intercourse with another person without
such person's consent where such lack of consent is by reason of some
factor other than incapacity to consent.
Rape in the third degree is a class E felony.
Class E felony means he's facing up to 4 years.
857 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 8:45:32am |
re: #844 Ojoe
Chris Christie appears to be "The Politician Not Afraid To Piss People Off!". He is making a gigantic enemies list because he is making some tough and incredibly unpopular decisions.
He doesn't appear to give a shit.
858 | sagehen Thu, May 6, 2010 8:46:16am |
re: #848 lawhawk
Wow. Taylor allegedly raped this girl at a motel in Montebello, NY:
OMG, he's old enough to be her grandfather!
859 | Renaissance_Man Thu, May 6, 2010 8:47:16am |
re: #844 Ojoe
In the long run, we are not going to get the country onto an even keel unless we BOTH eliminate the deficit AND pay down the national debt to a very small fraction of what it is now.
Probably it will take a constitutional amendment to accomplish this.
Meanwhile our freedom of action as a nation is being eroded by our profligacy.
No politician will say this.
A leader would say this however.
No politician will say this because they will never attain any position of power if they do. That's not a slight on them - I do not suggest that they are desperate for power for power's sake, though some most likely are. It is the nature of our system - they cannot tell us the hard truths, because if they do, we will not vote for them. That is not their fault, but ours.
We have wilfully ignored the consequences of an electoral system so massively dependent on media and sound bites, a system dependent on emotionally manipulating more people to turn up through whatever means, whether that be empty promises, starry-eyed celebrity, or hate and anger at the 'other guy'. We have made it a mandate for our elected politicians to be bought, whereas in a more ideal system their corruption would be dependent only on their own human foibles. We have mandated that they be bought because without such massive financial backing and/or media assistance, they cannot convince us to turn up and vote for them. We have willingly gone along with the politics of style over substance, of empty rhetoric, of wedge politics and anything except a discussion of hard truths.
860 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 8:47:33am |
re: #856 lawhawk
So,
1. Person is drugged?
2. Under 17?
3. Mentally challenged?
861 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 6, 2010 8:48:32am |
re: #856 lawhawk
It's defined as:
Class E felony means he's facing up to 4 years.
If this is true I hope he gets all 4.
862 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 8:48:52am |
Wish vinnie was here. We're getting serious again.
863 | Walter L. Newton Thu, May 6, 2010 8:49:16am |
864 | Digital Display Thu, May 6, 2010 8:50:47am |
re: #861 Cannadian Club Akbar
If this is true I hope he gets all 4.
He has always been a tragic figure in Sports...
865 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 8:50:47am |
Oh, Naked Gun... Frank Drebin is about to sing the National Anthem.
"Hey! It's Enrico Pallazzo!"
866 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 6, 2010 8:51:01am |
re: #512 LudwigVanQuixote
Hurr hurrr hurr...
These are really horrible folks. If you dig around enough you can find praise for Serbians ethnic cleansing Muslims, the worst sorts of slurs directed against gays or women or anyone who doesn't agree - and persistent "wink wink" racism that occasionally surfaces much more openly.
You don't have to dig around much. Rodan's fantasy about ethnic purity in Spain, of all places, is a rare treat.
867 | lawhawk Thu, May 6, 2010 8:51:11am |
re: #857 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The NJEA is running attack ads 24/7 here over his decisions to deal with the massive state debt, flowing red ink, and saying that Christie is destroying the state education system.
Let's just ignore that the state can't actually afford the state education system as it is currently comprised and funded - and that is due to legislators doing nothing to demand more accountability from the system, the Abbott rules, and a union that demands wage hikes even in the teeth of a recession when taxpayers simply don't have the money to afford 'em.
868 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 8:52:12am |
re: #863 Walter L. Newton
I have learned to watch sports and admire someone's ability without putting them into "hero" status.
I hope.
869 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 8:52:17am |
re: #862 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Wish vinnie was here. We're getting serious again.
Ba ba ba, ba Babarino!
870 | Digital Display Thu, May 6, 2010 8:53:00am |
re: #868 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I have learned to watch sports and admire someone's ability without putting them into "hero" status.
I hope.
Tiger Woods
871 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 6, 2010 8:53:59am |
re: #544 Decatur Deb
It's obvious that "teabagger" is just not a proper term for use in civil political discussion. Fortunately, I have stumbled upon a more useful word and will refer to outlandish TP antagonists as "Inscrotables".
Look, what's the proper term? What would the individuals in question like to called collectively?
872 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 8:54:55am |
re: #867 lawhawk
Christie honestly does not seem to give a shit. It's a beautiful thing to watch.
He's raining tough love down onto the state.
God Bless Him.
National office in the cards?
(I pray for his safety in NJ)
873 | oklahoma Thu, May 6, 2010 8:56:40am |
They can call themselves Teabaggers. We on the other hand mean something different when we refer to them by that term. Much like a certain group can call themselves a certain word that no one else can call them.
874 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 8:57:37am |
Update on the contract job. The second firm told me I can also sign a letter of intent with them then go with whichever one wins the contract. He's going to get back to me with salary info.
It's kind of nice to be wanted!
875 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 6, 2010 8:58:03am |
re: #582 Decatur Deb
It's some kind of BS, either brain-dead administration or a few punks trying to start shit under a blameless cover. Guess we would have to be there.
Saw that last night. I suspect that the kids may have been trying to tweak a few noses, but that the administration totally screwed up in handling it. Based on my long experience of both as an educator.
877 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 8:59:23am |
re: #876 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The job description is pretty different than what I'm doing now, and it involves more clerical work (like shelving and distribution), but if it pays well I'll go for it.
879 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 6, 2010 9:00:22am |
re: #602 Cannadian Club Akbar
Why not where orange?
Orangemen=William of Orange=Northern Scots-Irish Protestants
880 | Digital Display Thu, May 6, 2010 9:00:29am |
re: #877 Mad Al-Jaffee
The job description is pretty different than what I'm doing now, and it involves more clerical work (like shelving and distribution), but if it pays well I'll go for it.
That's awesome!
881 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 9:00:59am |
re: #875 SanFranciscoZionist
Now comes my whole "flag waving patriot" thing.
Any time someone wants to wear an American flag, (emblem, y'all know what I mean) in America? And the said American flag is offensive to someone else?
The someone else is in the wrong.
882 | Digital Display Thu, May 6, 2010 9:01:10am |
883 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 9:01:48am |
re: #878 cliffster
good morning, crazy kids. what's shakin'?
Four cheeks and a couple of chins.
-Norm
884 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 9:02:12am |
885 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 6, 2010 9:02:28am |
re: #615 reine.de.tout
I have to wonder what the administration would have done if the kids wearing the US flag shirts had complained that they were offended by the celebration of a Mexican Heritage Day? Would the kids of Mexican heritage have been sent home? Or would the complainers have been sent home? Why is it a complaint one way results in kids being sent home, but a complaint the other way could have resulted in the SAME kids being sent home?
I don't care whose flag anybody wears on their clothes, or who celebrates what. It does bother me that certain rights (to wear what they want to school, since there's no indication anybody violated the school's dress policy) are so sacred one way, but not the other.
In defense of the administration (and I don't really want to defend them), they may have been concerned with heading off a fight, rather than who had a right to do what.
886 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 9:02:43am |
887 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 9:03:37am |
re: #881 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Now comes my whole "flag waving patriot" thing.
Any time someone wants to wear an American flag, (emblem, y'all know what I mean) in America? And the said American flag is offensive to someone else?
The someone else is in the wrong.
The American flag is a symbol of racism, colonialism and slavery!!
/
888 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 6, 2010 9:03:43am |
My radio just said the Michigan Militia guys are getting out on bail.
889 | cliffster Thu, May 6, 2010 9:04:12am |
re: #882 HoosierHoops
What's kicking chick'n?
Allergens are - kicking my ass that is. I haven't stopped hacking up chunks of my lung since January. It's the one downside to living in Austin. The only one, I think.
890 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 9:04:16am |
re: #886 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
vinnie's head.
I don't know what he's shakin' about. Tacos are a very serious subject for me. Today is taco truck day...
891 | cliffster Thu, May 6, 2010 9:04:35am |
re: #881 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Now comes my whole "flag waving patriot" thing.
Any time someone wants to wear an American flag, (emblem, y'all know what I mean) in America? And the said American flag is offensive to someone else?
The someone else is in the wrong.
damn straight.
892 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 9:05:41am |
re: #885 SanFranciscoZionist
In defense of the administration (and I don't really want to defend them), they may have been concerned with heading off a fight, rather than who had a right to do what.
If they were afraid that the Mexican students would start a fight over a flag, maybe those students should have been sent home.
893 | Digital Display Thu, May 6, 2010 9:05:47am |
It's a beautiful day in Indiana..Just perfect.. I'm on the deck in the shade blogging, Winston is chasing birds around and a real honest to goodness Black helicopter just flew over my house...My first flyover ever....
/need foil...:)
894 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 6, 2010 9:05:54am |
re: #890 Locker
I don't know what he's shakin' about. Tacos are a very serious subject for me. Today is taco truck day...
I've considered turning an old skool bus into a cheesesteak bus.
895 | Renaissance_Man Thu, May 6, 2010 9:06:51am |
re: #881 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Now comes my whole "flag waving patriot" thing.
Any time someone wants to wear an American flag, (emblem, y'all know what I mean) in America? And the said American flag is offensive to someone else?
The someone else is in the wrong.
I know I'm pretty offended, and I'm not even an American.
896 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 9:07:09am |
re: #885 SanFranciscoZionist
I would've been right there in the middle of that stuff in High School.
I wore bibbed overalls with a tie on dress up day. Stupid shit like that.
Funny thing happened on that day. They took pictures of the kids who made the "Best/Most" list. Had my picture took. Was in the paper. Wearing that shit.
I was awesomesauce back then, too.
897 | Digital Display Thu, May 6, 2010 9:08:00am |
re: #895 Renaissance_Man
I know I'm pretty offended, and I'm not even an American.
Can I see your papers please?
898 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 9:08:05am |
re: #892 Mad Al-Jaffee
If they were afraid that the Mexican students would start a fight over a flag, maybe those students should have been sent home.
I'm not really into the whole censorship thing. Folks can wear whatever they want and if half of a school wants to wear Mexican flag T-shirts for immigration day or on the Fourth of July it's just as valid.
899 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 9:08:29am |
re: #895 Renaissance_Man
What a lovely outfit....
900 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 9:09:02am |
re: #894 Cannadian Club Akbar
I've considered turning an old skool bus into a cheesesteak bus.
A cheese-steak bus would be marvelous. I'd like a large steak with provolone cheese, mushrooms and grilled onions please!
901 | lawhawk Thu, May 6, 2010 9:09:31am |
From the be careful what you ask for and I told you so files - Rep. Henry Waxman had requested all kinds of documents from major corporations regarding their SOX/SEC filings saying that they would take charges as a result of the health care reform act (in the hundreds of millions to billions each). He and fellow Democrats were pissed that the companies made those announcements.
But after receiving those documents, he and the Democrats dropped the hearings they had proposed.
Well, it turns out that the documents shed quite a bit of light on something that those Democrats and Waxman didn't want made so public - that these same companies were under obligations to their shareholders to announce those changes under SOX and SEC rules, but that wasn' t the end of it.
The documents also showed that these companies were looking at whether it would be cheaper to incur the penalties than to continue extending coverage to their employees. They were looking at dumping employees into the exchanges rather than take the hit on their balance sheets, which was exactly what critics had contended. Among those providing documents were Hewitt in advising Verizon. Hewitt provides health care and benefits guidance to Fortune 500 companies all over the country, and if they were giving that kind of guidance to Verizon, they were giving similar advice to their other customers.
902 | Renaissance_Man Thu, May 6, 2010 9:09:32am |
re: #897 HoosierHoops
Can I see your papers please?
That black helicopter you just saw? Coming for me. Thanks for the heads up.
903 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 6, 2010 9:09:34am |
I remember when Def Leopard had British flag concert shirts. EVERYONE wanted one.
904 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 9:09:42am |
re: #894 Cannadian Club Akbar
I've considered turning an old skool bus into a cheesesteak bus.
A bus made out of cheesesteaks? I have this mental image of a giant cheesesteak with wheels.
905 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 6, 2010 9:10:34am |
re: #900 Locker
A cheese-steak bus would be marvelous. I'd like a large steak with provolone cheese, mushrooms and grilled onions please!
Ya gotta have the cherry peppers.:)
906 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 6, 2010 9:11:11am |
re: #904 Mad Al-Jaffee
A bus made out of cheesesteaks? I have this mental image of a giant cheesesteak with wheels.
We should make a movie about a van made out of weed. Wait...
//
908 | badger1970 Thu, May 6, 2010 9:12:07am |
re: #904 Mad Al-Jaffee
So it'll be in the same vein as this?
909 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 9:13:21am |
910 | lawhawk Thu, May 6, 2010 9:13:57am |
Re: Lawrence Taylor and the charges. Legalbgl in my comments notes that if they can prove the assault, the charges get changed:
If they can prove he beat her then the charges can be increased to Rape in 1st degree:
Section 130.35 Rape in the first degree.
A person is guilty of rape in the first degree when he or she engages in sexual intercourse with another person:
1. By forcible compulsion; or
2. Who is incapable of consent by reason of being physically helpless; or
3. Who is less than eleven years old; or
4. Who is less than thirteen years old and the actor is eighteen years old or more.
Rape in the first degree is a class B felony.
Which I believe because of his prior conviction makes it a minimum of 10 years.
911 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 9:18:11am |
re: #905 Cannadian Club Akbar
Ya gotta have the cherry peppers.:)
Fuck that. No peppers on my forking cheese-steak. Peppers on a Sausage and Pepper sandwich.
912 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 9:18:27am |
913 | Digital Display Thu, May 6, 2010 9:19:33am |
re: #910 lawhawk
Re: Lawrence Taylor and the charges. Legalbgl in my comments notes that if they can prove the assault, the charges get changed:
I would think a rape would be an assault with a 15 yr old minor...
I don't know the legality...I know you understand..This case interests me and I need more background.. Thanks!
/The Sports blogs are just fucking blowing up right now
914 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 6, 2010 9:20:32am |
re: #873 oklahoma
They can call themselves Teabaggers. We on the other hand mean something different when we refer to them by that term. Much like a certain group can call themselves a certain word that no one else can call them.
Don't even go there. The comparison is both ludicrous and offensive.
915 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 9:21:49am |
re: #914 SanFranciscoZionist
Don't even go there. The comparison is both ludicrous and offensive.
I think he's talking about naggers.
/
916 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 6, 2010 9:22:22am |
re: #881 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Now comes my whole "flag waving patriot" thing.
Any time someone wants to wear an American flag, (emblem, y'all know what I mean) in America? And the said American flag is offensive to someone else?
The someone else is in the wrong.
I'm not going to argue with you--this should have been handled differently.
917 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 6, 2010 9:23:23am |
re: #915 Locker
I think he's talking about naggers.
/
My dad's CB "handle" in the 70's was "Hen Pecked".
918 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 9:24:15am |
re: #917 Cannadian Club Akbar
My dad's CB "handle" in the 70's was "Hen Pecked".
Laugh my dad was "The Dealer". Still not sure what he means by that... perhaps I've been affected...
919 | avanti Thu, May 6, 2010 9:24:35am |
re: #898 Locker
I'm not really into the whole censorship thing. Folks can wear whatever they want and if half of a school wants to wear Mexican flag T-shirts for immigration day or on the Fourth of July it's just as valid.
Looks like the school over reacted to a perceived problem:
"Cinco de Mayo is popular at Live Oak, which is 40 percent Latino. The school even had ethnic dancers perform at lunch.
Live Oak's principal had no comment. The Morgan Hill Unified School District, however, disagreed with the high school.
"The district does not concur with the Live Oak High School administration's interpretation of either board or district policy related to these actions," said Dr. Jay Totter of the district.
By sundown, the district met with all the students and parents, and they all got good news. The t-shirts can stay.
920 | lawhawk Thu, May 6, 2010 9:25:28am |
Developing: Emirates jet stopped on JFK taxiway amid reports 'no-fly' passenger on board - via MSNBC (no link).
922 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 9:26:26am |
re: #920 lawhawk
Developing: Emirates jet stopped on JFK taxiway amid reports 'no-fly' passenger on board - via MSNBC (no link).
Hey they are Arsenal's sponsor. Hope everything is ok.
923 | wrenchwench Thu, May 6, 2010 9:26:52am |
re: #920 lawhawk
Developing: Emirates jet stopped on JFK taxiway amid reports 'no-fly' passenger on board - via MSNBC (no link).
Emirates can haz do-overs?
924 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 9:27:02am |
925 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 6, 2010 9:27:24am |
re: #919 avanti
Looks like the school over reacted to a perceived problem:
"Cinco de Mayo is popular at Live Oak, which is 40 percent Latino. The school even had ethnic dancers perform at lunch.
Live Oak's principal had no comment. The Morgan Hill Unified School District, however, disagreed with the high school.
"The district does not concur with the Live Oak High School administration's interpretation of either board or district policy related to these actions," said Dr. Jay Totter of the district.
By sundown, the district met with all the students and parents, and they all got good news. The t-shirts can stay.
We had a free dress day for CdM, the kids wore red white or green tops. And the Latino Club cooked a Mexican lunch for the staff. Very nice.
926 | Only The Lurker Knows Thu, May 6, 2010 9:29:07am |
Morning Lizards. For todays nontroversy I offer this.
Holder Defends Mirandizing Times Square Suspect
"Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and other Republicans say Shahzad, a naturalized U.S. citizen, should have been treated as an enemy combatant out of the gate. Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn, said as far as he's concerned, Shahzad lost his entitlement to Miranda Rights when he was arrested on terrorism charges."
I wonder what other parts of the Constitution they would like to suspend?
927 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Thu, May 6, 2010 9:30:08am |
re: #844 Ojoe
We're busy trying to develop out new superpower position of being "too big too fail". We'll go so far into debt to other countries that they will have to bail us out to prevent us from spontaneously revoking our debt and destroying the world's economic system.
/// (Massive)
928 | Digital Display Thu, May 6, 2010 9:31:12am |
re: #922 Locker
Hey they are Arsenal's sponsor. Hope everything is ok.
Locker..Do you get ESPN over there? The world cup commercials here have been the best soccer ads I have ever seen.. In fact..Who ever produced them just put to shame the NFL and MLB together in promotion..
I give it a 5 out of 5 stars
929 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 6, 2010 9:32:08am |
re: #928 HoosierHoops
Over there? Isn't he in Cali?
930 | Digital Display Thu, May 6, 2010 9:32:52am |
932 | Locker Thu, May 6, 2010 9:34:59am |
re: #928 HoosierHoops
Locker..Do you get ESPN over there? The world cup commercials here have been the best soccer ads I have ever seen.. In fact..Who ever produced them just put to shame the NFL and MLB together in promotion..
I give it a 5 out of 5 stars
Yes and I've seen them on ESPN, Fox Soccer Channel and on GolTV. 35 days, 21 hours and 24 minutes until the first game starts.
933 | lawhawk Thu, May 6, 2010 9:35:12am |
More on today's incident:
passenger was reportedly pulled off of an Emirates Airlines aircraft at John F. Kennedy International Airport in Queens on Thursday morning.The passenger was reportedly discovered to be on the no-fly list, according to Breaking News Network.
SkyFoxHD saw an Emirates Airlines plane plane at the gate at 12:30 p.m. with at least two security vehicles nearby.
The tower had reportedly notified the Port Authority Police Department that the aircraft was being returned to the gate.
MyFoxNY.com is trying to confirm all of this information and will update the story.
Other local news is running with either the Fox news story, or has only that Flight 204 was blocked.
934 | Kruk Thu, May 6, 2010 9:35:53am |
Are Lieberman and co proposing stripping citizen from people who have been *convicted* of aiding terrorist groups, or those accused of it? The first is justifiable if applied equally to everyone. (It could violate the equal protection clause if it was applied to naturalised citizens but not native born.)
If people who were accused/suspected were stripped of citizenship, and the lack of citizenship then used to evade certain legal protections and allow a conviction, and the conviction used to justify the stripping of citizenship....well, that seems a little Kakfa-esque to say the least.
935 | _RememberTonyC Thu, May 6, 2010 9:36:18am |
if potential terrorists know they could lose their US citizenship, it will either:
a. Deter future terrorists who might want to live here, thus reducing terrorism --or--
b. not mean shit.
Think about this .... what offenses committed against us deserve the harshest sanctions? Terrorists are at the top of my list.
936 | sagehen Thu, May 6, 2010 9:37:03am |
re: #926 Bubblehead II
Morning Lizards. For todays nontroversy I offer this.
Holder Defends Mirandizing Times Square Suspect
"Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and other Republicans say Shahzad, a naturalized U.S. citizen, should have been treated as an enemy combatant out of the gate. Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn, said as far as he's concerned, Shahzad lost his entitlement to Miranda Rights when he was arrested on terrorism charges."
I wonder what other parts of the Constitution they would like to suspend?
Apparently the 10th Amendment only applies when the President is a Democratic.
937 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 9:37:49am |
re: #933 lawhawk
Maybe I just don't understand how it works. I would think "Sir? You are on the no fly list, you can't board the plane" would be how it is supposed to work.
938 | reine.de.tout Thu, May 6, 2010 9:39:41am |
re: #885 SanFranciscoZionist
In defense of the administration (and I don't really want to defend them), they may have been concerned with heading off a fight, rather than who had a right to do what.
agreed.
There is probably more to this than was reported.
939 | lawhawk Thu, May 6, 2010 9:39:42am |
re: #934 Kruk
Stripping citizenship makes no sense. No, the more appropriate charge and course of action would be to try these US citizens (naturalized or by birth) on charges of treason in addition to the other charges. After all, they are standing accused of aiding, abetting, and consorting with our nation's enemies and fighting against the US.
940 | wrenchwench Thu, May 6, 2010 9:40:21am |
re: #925 SanFranciscoZionist
We had a free dress day for CdM, the kids wore red white or green tops. And the Latino Club cooked a Mexican lunch for the staff. Very nice.
"Free" being a somewhat relative concept here? I had a friend who was into wild socks as a holdover from Catholic school days.
941 | webevintage Thu, May 6, 2010 9:40:26am |
re: #934 Kruk
Are Lieberman and co proposing stripping citizen from people who have been *convicted* of aiding terrorist groups, or those accused of it?
From the accused.
It boggles the mind....
" GRAHAM: I want to stop reading these guys their Miranda rights. Me and Peter are so much on board here. … Nobody in their right mind would expect a Marine to read someone caught on the battlefield their rights. You catch them and you interrogate them lawfully to gather intelligence. Your special unit is probably the best in the world at this, but I don’t think it’s smart for us to say the homeland is not part of the battlefield.
You get to America, you get a much better deal, you get rewarded. If you can be caught in Pakistan, intelligence-gathering can happen with intelligence agencies without your Miranda warnings being given. Why should you get a better deal when you get here? Even if you’re an American citizen helping the enemy, you should be viewed as a potential military threat, not some guy who tried to commit a crime in Times Square.
So I look forward to working with the New York City Police Department, the mayor of New York, Peter King, to devise a law that recognizes we’re at war. … [T]hat you would have the opportunity to hold this suspect, because they represent a military threat to our country even though they’re a citizen, and be able to gather intelligence before you did anything else. … So we need a law that would allow you to go to a judge somewhere — like a FISA judge — and hold a suspect like this and working with the intelligence officials of this country, to gather intelligence, and then make a good prosecutorial decision. "
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
942 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 9:40:29am |
re: #936 sagehen
He's an American citizen, arrested on American soil... Mirandize him.
I'd like to have him executed too. You know, after the trial and stuff.
943 | darthstar Thu, May 6, 2010 9:41:48am |
re: #934 Kruk
Are Lieberman and co proposing stripping citizen from people who have been *convicted* of aiding terrorist groups, or those accused of it? The first is justifiable if applied equally to everyone. (It could violate the equal protection clause if it was applied to naturalised citizens but not native born.)
If people who were accused/suspected were stripped of citizenship, and the lack of citizenship then used to evade certain legal protections and allow a conviction, and the conviction used to justify the stripping of citizenship...well, that seems a little Kakfa-esque to say the least.
As it stands, he's asking for people 'accused' of aiding terrorist groups to be stripped of citizenship and sent to military tribunals. Expect him to mumble through some explanation of how he's concerned about the safety of Americans...basically, he's trying to give cover to his buddies Graham and McCain.
944 | reine.de.tout Thu, May 6, 2010 9:41:49am |
re: #940 wrenchwench
"Free" being a somewhat relative concept here? I had a friend who was into wild socks as a holdover from Catholic school days.
Daughter and I are having a sock-burning celebration (where we'll probably just throw them away). Today was her final final HS exam.
945 | Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 6, 2010 9:42:39am |
I got another business proposal today!
Dear friend,
I have a project I want you to run with us.
It involves exportation of 35,000 barrels of oil daily from Kirkuk, Iraq.
If you are interested, email me
Mr. Yan
946 | cliffster Thu, May 6, 2010 9:43:20am |
re: #939 lawhawk
Stripping citizenship makes no sense. No, the more appropriate charge and course of action would be to try these US citizens (naturalized or by birth) on charges of treason in addition to the other charges. After all, they are standing accused of aiding, abetting, and consorting with our nation's enemies and fighting against the US.
son, do you know what we do to treasoners around here?
947 | wrenchwench Thu, May 6, 2010 9:45:03am |
re: #944 reine.de.tout
Daughter and I are having a sock-burning celebration (where we'll probably just throw them away). Today was her final final HS exam.
Congratulations to both of you! Compost the 100% cotton ones! [semi/]
948 | webevintage Thu, May 6, 2010 9:45:24am |
And while Graham has no problem stepping all over the rights of US citizens when it comes to Miranda he really, really has no problem with the fact that terrorists can legally buy weapons.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
"Yes, if you are on the terrorist watch list, the authorities can keep you from getting on a plane but not from purchasing an AK-47. This makes sense to Congress because, as Graham accurately pointed out, “when the founders sat down and wrote the Constitution, they didn’t consider flying.”
949 | Kruk Thu, May 6, 2010 9:46:18am |
re: #943 darthstar
As it stands, he's asking for people 'accused' of aiding terrorist groups to be stripped of citizenship and sent to military tribunals. Expect him to mumble through some explanation of how he's concerned about the safety of Americans...basically, he's trying to give cover to his buddies Graham and McCain.
And the people who go batshit about Government tyranny will be cheering this on. *Faceplam*
950 | simoom Thu, May 6, 2010 9:50:39am |
Portsmouth, NH:
[Link: www.seacoastonline.com...]
A report of a possible bomb on a bus near downtown Portsmouth caused police to evacuate the Hanover Street area late Thursday morning.At approximately 11:45 a.m. police and firefighters were on scene evacuating Hanover Street from Maplewood Avenue to Market Street, and had surrounded a Greyhound bus with approximately 17 passengers on board, while watching a subject inside, according to emergency radio communications.
Police Chief Lou Ferland said police received information that there may be a subject on the bus with a bomb.
FBI agents arrived on scene at approximately 12:17 p.m.
Others responding to the scene included the Seacoast Emergency Response Team (SERT), the N.H. State Police bomb disposal unit, an Exeter Police special operations vehicle and a K-9 unit from Dover. At approximately 12:30 p.m. an armored vehicle was also en route from Rye.
According to Portsmouth Police Cpt. Mike Schwartz, there were 17 people on the bus, the driver was not on board during the response, and there has been phone contact with a passenger.
As of 12:40 p.m. police had not named a suspect, and are urging people to stay away from the downtown area.
[Link: www.unionleader.com...]
SWAT teams are being called to the scene, the hood on the bus is raised and early reports from the scene indicate a suspicious device was found on the bus. There are passengers on the bus. The nearby Hilton Hotel is being evacuated.
951 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 6, 2010 9:53:12am |
re: #950 simoom
That. NYC. Pipe bomb in Pittsburgh. WTF?
952 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Thu, May 6, 2010 9:53:25am |
re: #904 Mad Al-Jaffee
A bus made out of cheesesteaks? I have this mental image of a giant cheesesteak with wheels.
Sounds like a meat car from Kingdom of Loathing...
953 | Kruk Thu, May 6, 2010 9:54:27am |
re: #951 Cannadian Club Akbar
That. NYC. Pipe bomb in Pittsburgh. WTF?
It's crazy season. :( I'm hoping and praying what's happening in NH ends peacefully.
954 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Thu, May 6, 2010 9:54:27am |
re: #924 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Hmmm. Who owns Emirates? That Bush or Cheney?
Rove?
Other way round possibly? Emirates own them?
955 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, May 6, 2010 9:55:39am |
re: #951 Cannadian Club Akbar
That. NYC. Pipe bomb in Pittsburgh. WTF?
I believe the Pittsburgh incident was a false alarm. Abandoned microwave on sidewalk without an explosive inside.
956 | Walter L. Newton Thu, May 6, 2010 9:55:45am |
re: #953 Kruk
It's crazy season. :( I'm hoping and praying what's happening in NH ends peacefully.
What do you expect with all those domestic terrorist who have a problem with the health reform bill and stuff like that.
957 | Only The Lurker Knows Thu, May 6, 2010 9:55:48am |
958 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, May 6, 2010 9:56:23am |
Update: New York plane scare a false alarm; passenger name was similar, but not a match, to that of person on 'no fly' list, NBC confirms
959 | lawhawk Thu, May 6, 2010 9:56:31am |
re: #951 Cannadian Club Akbar
Overnight there was a situation at the RFK Triborough Bridge where an unattended box truck was found. They closed the bridge to all traffic until it was found to have been just abandoned and not a threat.
With people on heightened watch for unusual activity, these are getting more attention than they normally would.
960 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 9:56:39am |
961 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 6, 2010 9:56:43am |
re: #955 Stanley Sea
I believe the Pittsburgh incident was a false alarm. Abandoned microwave on sidewalk without an explosive inside.
Didn't see that. Thanks.
962 | Slap Thu, May 6, 2010 9:56:57am |
re: #938 reine.de.tout
Sp far, none of the local news outlets have had much film. What VERY little I've seen seems to support SFV's assessment of the situation as a response to a potential problem. As I was leaving for work, one of the "offending" kids -- who was quoted in the story -- was speaking as though mom and dad have been feeding him a steady unbalanced diet of martyr cookies. I had the distinct impression -- based on nothing but my "i'm-on-my-way-out-the-door" corner of my mind's eye glimpse -- that their choice to wear the gear on that day (I've seen nothing yet to claim they wear these things every day) was intended to provoke.
Not saying it was handled right, by any means -- I've no way to know exactly what occurred. But I get a whiff of something vaguely unpleasant underneath the surface here.
963 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Thu, May 6, 2010 9:57:07am |
re: #958 Stanley Sea
Update: New York plane scare a false alarm; passenger name was similar, but not a match, to that of person on 'no fly' list, NBC confirms
Was it Mohammed Khan? Cause that guy is everywhere!
//
964 | Walter L. Newton Thu, May 6, 2010 9:58:23am |
re: #959 lawhawk
Overnight there was a situation at the RFK Triborough Bridge where an unattended box truck was found. They closed the bridge to all traffic until it was found to have been just abandoned and not a threat.
With people on heightened watch for unusual activity, these are getting more attention than they normally would.
And don't forget all those domestic terrorist who have a problem with the health reform bill and stuff like that.
965 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 6, 2010 10:00:29am |
966 | Slap Thu, May 6, 2010 10:00:42am |
re: #962 Slap
Sp far, none of the local news outlets have had much film. What VERY little I've seen seems to support SFV's assessment of the situation as a response to a potential problem. As I was leaving for work, one of the "offending" kids -- who was quoted in the story -- was speaking as though mom and dad have been feeding him a steady unbalanced diet of martyr cookies. I had the distinct impression -- based on nothing but my "i'm-on-my-way-out-the-door" corner of my mind's eye glimpse -- that their choice to wear the gear on that day (I've seen nothing yet to claim they wear these things every day) was intended to provoke.
Not saying it was handled right, by any means -- I've no way to know exactly what occurred. But I get a whiff of something vaguely unpleasant underneath the surface here.
PIMF. Replace with So and SFZ, respectively. Grrrr.
967 | darthstar Thu, May 6, 2010 10:03:02am |
re: #948 webevintage
And while Graham has no problem stepping all over the rights of US citizens when it comes to Miranda he really, really has no problem with the fact that terrorists can legally buy weapons.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]"Yes, if you are on the terrorist watch list, the authorities can keep you from getting on a plane but not from purchasing an AK-47. This makes sense to Congress because, as Graham accurately pointed out, “when the founders sat down and wrote the Constitution, they didn’t consider flying.”
I love Gail Collins...she's almost always funny, while being ruthless in her criticism of politicians, regardless of party affiliation.
968 | lawhawk Thu, May 6, 2010 10:06:37am |
Goodluck needs a whole lot of it as he's sworn in as Nigeria's new president.
Nigeria's acting leader Goodluck Jonathan was sworn in Thursday as president of Africa's most populous country, as the body of his predecessor was flown north for a traditional Muslim burial hours after he died following a lengthy illness.Jonathan put on a sash bearing the green, yellow and white colors of Nigeria, signifying he had formally taken over for President Umaru Yar'Adua though Jonathan had served as acting president for months.
969 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Thu, May 6, 2010 10:07:20am |
re: #965 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Madeline's brother?
Some Pakistani dude on the no fly list. Problem is that Mohammed Khan is like John Smith in Pakistan.
970 | Kruk Thu, May 6, 2010 10:08:18am |
re: #962 Slap
Not saying it was handled right, by any means -- I've no way to know exactly what occurred. But I get a whiff of something vaguely unpleasant underneath the surface here.
I agree with you, but the the problem in these situations is that the "something unpleasant" is hard to prove. We have had situations in the UK with the St. George flag being used by far right groups, and in Australia with the Australian flag being used as gang colours. It's very hard to do anything about people using the flag in such a manner without bringing down a torrent of outrageous outrage.
971 | Renaissance_Man Thu, May 6, 2010 10:09:34am |
re: #968 lawhawk
Goodluck needs a whole lot of it as he's sworn in as Nigeria's new president.
I wonder how many emails the White House Secretary has deleted that look something like this:
Dear Mr. Obama,
My name is Goodluck Johnathan and I would like to speak to you at your earliest convenience regarding an exciting opportunity in my home country of Nigeria. I will soon be attaining a position of considerable influence, and have many interesting propositions for you, but am facing some opposition from rival factions. I look forward to hearing from you.
Goodluck Johnathan
972 | avanti Thu, May 6, 2010 10:10:01am |
re: #934 Kruk
Are Lieberman and co proposing stripping citizen from people who have been *convicted* of aiding terrorist groups, or those accused of it? The first is justifiable if applied equally to everyone. (It could violate the equal protection clause if it was applied to naturalised citizens but not native born.)
If people who were accused/suspected were stripped of citizenship, and the lack of citizenship then used to evade certain legal protections and allow a conviction, and the conviction used to justify the stripping of citizenship...well, that seems a little Kakfa-esque to say the least.
I'd need to know more about the bill, but I share some concerns. We have a constitutional right to assemble and associate , even Commies and Nazi's do.
I see a slippery slope ahead if we start stripping citizenship do to claimed "terrorist" associations. You could expand that to some militias for example.
974 | webevintage Thu, May 6, 2010 10:13:39am |
re: #972 avanti
I see a slippery slope ahead if we start stripping citizenship do to claimed "terrorist" associations. You could expand that to some militias for example.
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"
Pop quiz!
WHICH "Founding Father" said that?
975 | Kruk Thu, May 6, 2010 10:15:38am |
976 | subsailor68 Thu, May 6, 2010 10:20:03am |
977 | avanti Thu, May 6, 2010 10:20:28am |
re: #974 webevintage
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"
Pop quiz!
WHICH "Founding Father" said that?
Ben Frankin, but Beck does not count any founding fathers that were deists. He went nuts over Sam Adams, but yet to see him profile Ben or Thomas Jefferson.
978 | Slap Thu, May 6, 2010 10:26:49am |
re: #970 Kruk
Agreed, wholeheartedly. Absent any documentation "proving" their intent, it's slippery in excelsis to draw a definitive conclusion.
The aroma of skepticism still lingers for me, on all sides of this incident. Luckily, the world doesn't act based on my gut impressions.....
979 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 6, 2010 10:28:20am |
re: #940 wrenchwench
"Free" being a somewhat relative concept here? I had a friend who was into wild socks as a holdover from Catholic school days.
Any pants or appropriate-length skirts, except overly ripped jeans, tops must be red, white, green or have a positive message about Mexican culture on them.
Yes, very relative.
980 | sagehen Thu, May 6, 2010 10:33:37am |
re: #974 webevintage
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"
Pop quiz!
WHICH "Founding Father" said that?
A more recent, pithier formulation I saw the other day:
Freedom isn't safe; safety isn't free.