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1 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:34:36pm

time for Mr. B. to savor the full rich robust flavor of the teabag
(to quote my MMORPG gamer friends)

2 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:34:48pm

What? of course we can't! It's just like the "N" word it's not our word!

What up my baggah!

3 prairiefire  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:36:08pm

The blog comments are hilarious. Andrew has a devoted following of snarkers who enjoy jerking his chain, er, bag.

4 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:36:53pm

In honor of this, a PSA for teabaggers:

5 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:38:58pm

tee hee.

6 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:39:09pm

Notice to all teabaggers:

When you hear the word teabag, please refrain from picturing Rush Limbaugh sticking his sweaty testicles into Glen Beck's eager mouth - or Michelle Malkin's.

7 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:39:13pm

BTW LVQ thanks for the updings.

8 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:39:20pm

Ron Paul!!!

9 philosophus invidius  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:39:44pm

You can call them that. It's just gross.

10 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:39:50pm

re: #6 LudwigVanQuixote

Notice to all teabaggers:

Ugh. And thank you for sharing.

11 b_sharp  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:40:19pm

re: #6 LudwigVanQuixote

Notice to all teabaggers:

When you hear the word teabag, please refrain from picturing Rush Limbaugh sticking his sweaty testicles into Glen Beck's eager mouth - or Michelle Malkin's.

Ewww.

Or even worse, Malkin's balls into Limbaugh's mouth.

12 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:41:02pm

Teabagging since 1773!
LOL!

13 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:41:19pm

re: #11 b_sharp

Ewww.

Or even worse, Malkin's ....

Mistress Malkin... my sister-in-law's evil doppelganger.

14 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:42:23pm

re: #8 Cannadian Club Akbar

Ron Paul!!!

It wouldn't be a Tea Party without the Mad Hatter!

15 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:43:22pm

Near and dear to my heart Mr. Breitbart.

16 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:43:34pm

re: #12 Floral Giraffe

Teabagging since 1773!
LOL!

Oh to be seventy again!

17 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:44:31pm

Night all.

18 sngnsgt  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:44:57pm

re: #17 Cannadian Club Akbar

Nite CC...

19 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:47:49pm

Do luggage handlers work with tea bags?

20 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:48:01pm

okay... now where'd everybody go?

21 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:48:25pm

re: #19 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Do luggage handlers work with tea bags?

Not for all the tea in China!

22 b_sharp  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:49:06pm

re: #20 Querent

okay... now where'd everybody go?

We're hiding from you.

23 sadhu  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:49:07pm

Suspicious Truck Shuts Down New York City Triborough Bridge

live feed:

[Link: interactive.foxnews.com...]

24 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:49:07pm

re: #20 Querent

okay... now where'd everybody go?

They're off making a cuppa!

25 Dark_Falcon  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:49:11pm

re: #6 LudwigVanQuixote

Thanks for the nausea, Ludwig. The curse of a vivid imagination is causing my stomach to churn badly.

26 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:50:05pm

re: #24 Floral Giraffe

They're off making a cuppa!

figures. or are they waiting for me to bring out the cupcakes?

(baked 'em after dinner. and the fresh batch of spicy /sarc tags should be done any post now...)

27 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:51:02pm

re: #25 Dark_Falcon

Thanks for the nausea, Ludwig. The curse of a vivid imagination is causing my stomach to churn badly.

ginger or cinnamon can help settle that. Try it w/ chamomile.

28 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:51:33pm

Think I'm coming down with something.

29 engineer cat  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:52:32pm

ABC News/Washington Post Poll. April 22-25, 2010

Which group -- the Democrats, the Republicans, or the Tea Party -- do you think best represents your own personal values?

Democrats 48%
Republicans 24%
Tea Party 14%

Which of these comes closest to your own view? The more I hear about the Tea Party movement,

The more I like it 34%
The less I like it 43%

"Say a candidate for Congress associates him or herself with the Tea Party. Would that make you more likely to support that candidate for Congress, more likely to oppose that candidate, or wouldn't it make much difference in your vote?"

More likely to support 15%
More likely to oppose 24%

30 albusteve  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:52:36pm

re: #6 LudwigVanQuixote

Notice to all teabaggers:

When you hear the word teabag, please refrain from picturing Rush Limbaugh sticking his sweaty testicles into Glen Beck's eager mouth - or Michelle Malkin's.

very classy...I'm impressed

31 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:53:06pm
I’m Proud to Be a Tea Bagger
by Andrew Breitbart

The prostitutes who know you say you shouldn't be so proud of such "weak tea", if you know what I mean.

32 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:53:14pm

re: #30 albusteve

How's the trip going?

33 Dark_Falcon  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:53:17pm

re: #27 Querent

ginger or cinnamon can help settle that. Try it w/ chamomile.

I have none of those.

34 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:53:51pm

I'm not sure that you can call yourself a teabagger if you're the one usually on the receiving end of said teabagging (breitbart)

35 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:53:54pm

Bill Maher is slamming Islam in CNN right now.

Cooper: "They say Islam is a religion of peace. Do you buy that?"

Maher: "Yeah, they blow you up. There's a piece of you over there. There's a piece of you over there. There's a piece of you over there."

36 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:53:58pm

cupcakes are now being served.

fresh piping hot /sarc tags will be distributed when they've cooled off for 10 minutes.

And apparently there's plenty of tea...

37 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:54:06pm

re: #29 engineer dog

ABC News/Washington Post Poll. April 22-25, 2010

Which group -- the Democrats, the Republicans, or the Tea Party -- do you think best represents your own personal values?

Democrats 48%
Republicans 24%
Tea Party 14%

Which of these comes closest to your own view? The more I hear about the Tea Party movement,

The more I like it 34%
The less I like it 43%

"Say a candidate for Congress associates him or herself with the Tea Party. Would that make you more likely to support that candidate for Congress, more likely to oppose that candidate, or wouldn't it make much difference in your vote?"

More likely to support 15%
More likely to oppose 24%

Wow you know things are bad when Democrats are beating out Republicans when it comes to the "V" word by a ratio of 2 to 1!

38 Pete(Detroit)  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:54:18pm

Call 'em what you want, they don't care, and they are for real..
Smaller gov't, lower taxes - what's not to love?

39 albusteve  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:54:57pm

re: #32 Floral Giraffe

How's the trip going?

super good...even been to the drags to watch my boyz race

40 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:54:59pm

re: #38 Pete(Detroit)

Call 'em what you want, they don't care, and they are for real..
Smaller gov't, lower taxes - what's not to love?

oh joy we have one of these

41 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:55:03pm

re: #34 SpaceJesus

I'm not sure that you can call yourself a teabagger if you're the one usually on the receiving end of said teabagging (breitbart)

I believe the approriate term for that position is Bitch

42 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:55:09pm

re: #38 Pete(Detroit)

Call 'em what you want, they don't care, and they are for real..
Smaller gov't, lower taxes - what's not to love?

The racism?

43 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:55:13pm

re: #38 Pete(Detroit)
nobody here's saying they ain't for real.

44 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:55:18pm

re: #38 Pete(Detroit)

Call 'em what you want, they don't care, and they are for real..
Smaller gov't, lower taxes - what's not to love?

They're inability to say what part of government they want to make smaller.

45 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:55:40pm

re: #38 Pete(Detroit)

Call 'em what you want, they don't care, and they are for real..
Smaller gov't, lower taxes - what's not to love?

The mindless xenophobia and religious rhetoric maybe?

46 Dark_Falcon  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:55:59pm

re: #35 NJDhockeyfan

Bill Maher is slamming Islam in CNN right now.

Cooper: "They say Islam is a religion of peace. Do you buy that?"

Maher: "Yeah, they blow you up. There's a piece of you over there. There's a piece of you over there. There's a piece of you over there."

Upding in Maher's honor. That's both true and funny.

47 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:56:16pm

re: #35 NJDhockeyfan

Bill Maher is slamming Islam in CNN right now.

Cooper: "They say Islam is a religion of peace. Do you buy that?"

Maher: "Yeah, they blow you up. There's a piece of you over there. There's a piece of you over there. There's a piece of you over there."

Meh I liked that joke better on Jack of All Trades

Jack you don't believe that Napoleon wants peace?

Oh he wants piece alright sister, the biggest piece!

48 Pete(Detroit)  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:56:38pm

re: #40 SpaceJesus

oh joy we have one of these

For years, yeah..

49 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:56:58pm

there's a lot of folks in there with their hearts in the right place.

and there's a lot of bad evil crazy in there that will jump at the chance to take advantage of the first group.

That's what concerns us Lizards.

50 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:57:01pm

re: #40 SpaceJesus

oh joy we have one of these

Hey remember the important saying...

The Gods of Discworld like having philosophers around, they're useful for target practice!

51 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:57:17pm

re: #48 Pete(Detroit)

For years, yeah..


did you build a time machine in 2004

52 b_sharp  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:57:23pm

re: #43 Querent

nobody here's saying they ain't for real.

Some are saying they wish they weren't for real.

53 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:57:38pm

re: #35 NJDhockeyfan

Bill Maher is slamming Islam in CNN right now.

Cooper: "They say Islam is a religion of peace. Do you buy that?"

Maher: "Yeah, they blow you up. There's a piece of you over there. There's a piece of you over there. There's a piece of you over there."

I really don't like Maher, but he is spot-on there. Here's a video clip.

54 Pete(Detroit)  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:57:50pm

re: #42 Floral Giraffe

The racism?

Marginal, at worst - look at all the "well tanned" candidates courting the Tea movement...

55 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:58:01pm

re: #35 NJDhockeyfan

Bill Maher is slamming Islam in CNN right now.

Cooper: "They say Islam is a religion of peace. Do you buy that?"

Maher: "Yeah, they blow you up. There's a piece of you over there. There's a piece of you over there. There's a piece of you over there."

Are you a Maher fan now?

56 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:58:10pm

re: #52 b_sharp

Some are saying they wish they weren't for real.


and some are asking, 'are youse guys for real'?

57 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:58:16pm

THE SLEEPER HAS AWAKENED!

58 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:58:25pm

re: #54 Pete(Detroit)

Marginal, at worst - look at all the "well tanned" candidates courting the Tea movement...

I can't be a racist, some black people want me to vote for them!

59 Pete(Detroit)  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:58:28pm

re: #44 jamesfirecat

They're inability to say what part of government they want to make smaller.

ALL of it?

60 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:58:41pm

re: #53 Slumbering Behemoth

I really don't like Maher, but he is spot-on there. Here's a video clip.

That was fast. On the internet already.

61 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:59:00pm

re: #59 Pete(Detroit)

ALL of it?

Well thank you very much, come back for me when you have a real plan that would actually achieve something!

62 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:59:06pm

re: #55 Stanley Sea

Are you a Maher fan now?

No, he's still a moonbat but he's right this time.

63 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:59:30pm

re: #60 NJDhockeyfan

That was fast. On the internet already.

Youtube is like the eye Sauron, it sees all, it knows all.

64 Pete(Detroit)  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:00:03pm

re: #45 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The mindless xenophobia and religious rhetoric maybe?

Agreed, religious rhetoric I can live w/o - that's not a central theme, that I'm aware of.

Damn - catching flames faster than I can respond - whoo hoo!

65 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:01:00pm

re: #64 Pete(Detroit)

Agreed, religious rhetoric I can live w/o - that's not a central theme, that I'm aware of.

Damn - catching flames faster than I can respond - whoo hoo!


(Riffraff)
you've arrived on a rather special night. It's one of the LIzard Master's affairs...
(/Riffraff)

66 Pete(Detroit)  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:01:17pm

re: #49 Querent

there's a lot of folks in there with their hearts in the right place.

and there's a lot of bad evil crazy in there that will jump at the chance to take advantage of the first group.

That's what concerns us Lizards.

and, some of us 'in the movement..'
Gotta keep it REAL, man!

67 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:01:45pm

re: #60 NJDhockeyfan

That was fast. On the internet already.

I saw it earlier today. Obviously pre-recorded.

68 mich-again  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:02:02pm

Hijacking the "Tea Party" theme as a rallying cry is lame. The original tea party was a protest against taxation without representation. The only reason these people don't have "representation" is that they have been too lazy or complacent or uninterested to do something to actually get their candidates elected into office. They yap about an impending revolution when all they ever needed to do is use the electoral process the founding fathers put in place. When they use the Tea Party theme they insult the spirit behind the original.

69 Pete(Detroit)  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:02:07pm

re: #52 b_sharp

Some are saying they wish they weren't for real.

True - too bad

70 Reginald Perrin  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:02:13pm

re: #54 Pete(Detroit)


look at all the "well tanned" candidates courting the Tea movement...


Do you mean guys like John Boehner?

71 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:02:26pm

lol, theocrats on the right?

[Link: smithforcongress2010ohio16th.com...]

72 AntonSirius  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:02:36pm

There's a Loretta Lynn joke here somewhere, but I can't quite seem to find it...

73 Dark_Falcon  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:03:04pm

re: #59 Pete(Detroit)

ALL of it?

I doubt most of them include the Navy or the Marshal's Service in their shrinkage proposals.

74 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:03:26pm

re: #66 Pete(Detroit)

and, some of us 'in the movement..'
Gotta keep it REAL, man!

Good for you then -- stay safe & sane.

i can make the same observation about the many volunteer border patrol movements -- lots of concerned folks (whether rightly or wrongly), and a quotient of snakes to play on their fears and corrupt them to Bad Crazy.

75 Pete(Detroit)  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:04:24pm

re: #58 jamesfirecat

I can't be a racist, some black people want me to vote for them!

"I can't be a racist, this racist black guy is my representative, and he wants me to vote for him"

See how silly that sounds?

76 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:04:38pm

re: #68 mich-again

Hijacking the "Tea Party" theme as a rallying cry is lame. The original tea party was a protest against taxation without representation. The only reason these people don't have "representation" is that they have been too lazy or complacent or uninterested to do something to actually get their candidates elected into office. They yap about an impending revolution when all they ever needed to do is use the electoral process the founding fathers put in place. When they use the Tea Party theme they insult the spirit behind the original.


and they like to fantasize that the founding fathers would have been in favor of their anti-tax poseur rebellion against the federal government. I'd like to instruct the tea party folks to look up the Whiskey Rebellion and Shay's rebellion and see how those turned out.

77 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:05:01pm

re: #68 mich-again

Hijacking the "Tea Party" theme as a rallying cry is lame. The original tea party was a protest against taxation without representation. The only reason these people don't have "representation" is that they have been too lazy or complacent or uninterested to do something to actually get their candidates elected into office. They yap about an impending revolution when all they ever needed to do is use the electoral process the founding fathers put in place. When they use the Tea Party theme they insult the spirit behind the original.


Perfectly said. from the beginning, it was tea party???? why the hell are you choosing this as a theme? Bad analogy of course. (Glenn Beck was the reason, remember!)

78 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:05:44pm

re: #75 Pete(Detroit)

"I can't be a racist, this racist black guy is my representative, and he wants me to vote for him"

See how silly that sounds?

More nonsensical to silly and I fail to see how it links to my original point in any real way...

79 Pete(Detroit)  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:06:56pm

re: #61 jamesfirecat

Well thank you very much, come back for me when you have a real plan that would actually achieve something!

Can we start w/ a 10% whack across the board, starting from 2007 levels?
For a freakin START?!?!

Can we at least agree that the gov't is too effing HUGE?

If not, there is not a place to even start

>sigh

80 mich-again  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:07:19pm

re: #77 Stanley Sea

Perfectly said. from the beginning, it was tea party??? why the hell are you choosing this as a theme? Bad analogy of course. (Glenn Beck was the reason, remember!)

He's a clown who jumped in front of the parade so people would think he was the one leading it.

81 freetoken  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:07:23pm

re: #71 SpaceJesus

Since we are on the topic of Tea Parties, you'll be happy to know that Mr. Smith is a Tea Party fav:


H.Doyle Smith Vetting Session

hah, they've "vetted" him...

82 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:07:38pm

re: #79 Pete(Detroit)

Can we start w/ a 10% whack across the board, starting from 2007 levels?
For a freakin START?!?!

Can we at least agree that the gov't is too effing HUGE?

If not, there is not a place to even start

>sigh


where was the tea party in 2007

83 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:08:20pm

re: #79 Pete(Detroit)

Can we start w/ a 10% whack across the board, starting from 2007 levels?
For a freakin START?!?!

Can we at least agree that the gov't is too effing HUGE?

If not, there is not a place to even start

>sigh

Dude you only look more like an idiot every time you suggest across the board cuts.

Across the board cuts are only going to make our government worse as we people struggle to find ways to funnel more money to their pet projects and leave less to do the real work.

We should do investigation, find out what our money is being spent on that actually achieves stuff for us and what is being wasted.

Across the board cuts are the solution of a lazy mind.

84 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:08:20pm

re: #59 Pete(Detroit)

ALL of it?

For you. Also this and this.

/lovin' that troofer, Ron Paul Revolution... 'nuther cuppa Kool-Aid tea, please.

85 Interesting Times  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:08:23pm

re: #77 Stanley Sea

Perfectly said. from the beginning, it was tea party??? why the hell are you choosing this as a theme? Bad analogy of course. (Glenn Beck was the reason, remember!)

I thought it was ranting Rick Santelli who started it (whatever happened to him, anyway? I suppose the Wonkette posters who predicted he'd have a shorter shelf life than Joe the Plumber were indeed prescient :) )

86 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:08:55pm

Ah yes, the 10% off the top deal, where has that come up before?

/

87 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:09:09pm

re: #81 freetoken

Since we are on the topic of Tea Parties, you'll be happy to know that Mr. Smith is a Tea Party fav:

H.Doyle Smith Vetting Session

hah, they've "vetted" him...

pfft, "it's all about small government, dont you understand?! (oh, and turning america into a theocratic shithole)"

88 engineer cat  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:09:23pm

whenever i take a look at glen beck's routine i can't help but think of that poor paranoid psychotic guy in 'a beautiful mind'

89 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:10:13pm

re: #85 publicityStunted

I thought it was ranting Rick Santelli who started it (whatever happened to him, anyway? I suppose the Wonkette posters who predicted he'd have a shorter shelf life than Joe the Plumber were indeed prescient :) )

Hell, my memory is crumbled when it comes to the tp'ers. I just remember the Beck revolution on 4/15/09.

90 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:10:17pm

y'all are on a roll tonight -- i'm running out of updings for my daily quota!

91 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:10:36pm

where are those polls that show how many tea party people think obama is either kenyan, muslim, or the anti-christ? if i remember, it was like 50%.


always get a kick out of those.

92 Pete(Detroit)  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:10:54pm

re: #68 mich-again

Hijacking the "Tea Party" theme as a rallying cry is lame. The original tea party was a protest against taxation without representation. The only reason these people don't have "representation" is that they have been too lazy or complacent or uninterested to do something to actually get their candidates elected into office. They yap about an impending revolution when all they ever needed to do is use the electoral process the founding fathers put in place. When they use the Tea Party theme they insult the spirit behind the original.

Not so sure, Mitch -
think of it as more of a 'wake up call' to coagulate, activate, defecate!
And put 'responsible' folks in charge.
Agree, we get the bungholes we vote for. But there's a bunch of folks out there pretty PO'd at being snowed, and not going to stand for it any more.
Whether it amounts to more than a fart in the kitchen remains to be seen...

93 Varek Raith  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:11:06pm

Breitbart, lol.

94 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:11:07pm

re: #85 publicityStunted

I thought it was ranting Rick Santelli who started it (whatever happened to him, anyway? I suppose the Wonkette posters who predicted he'd have a shorter shelf life than Joe the Plumber were indeed prescient :) )

JTP just got elected to some local Ohio Republican committee.

He's on his way!!!

95 b_sharp  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:11:11pm

re: #90 Querent

y'all are on a roll tonight -- i'm running out of updings for my daily quota!

You have to learn to pace yourself.

96 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:11:25pm

re: #79 Pete(Detroit)

Can we start w/ a 10% whack across the board, starting from 2007 levels?
For a freakin START?!?!

Can we at least agree that the gov't is too effing HUGE?

If not, there is not a place to even start

>sigh

By the way, what objective measure do you use to suggest the " gov't is too effing HUGE?" I'm a liberal make your case to me for why our government is too large....

97 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:11:50pm

re: #68 mich-again

That deserves the updings required to get it in the "Top Ten". Bravo, Mich.

98 Dark_Falcon  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:11:54pm

re: #79 Pete(Detroit)

Can we start w/ a 10% whack across the board, starting from 2007 levels?
For a freakin START?!?!

Can we at least agree that the gov't is too effing HUGE?

If not, there is not a place to even start

>sigh

No, we cannot. Cutting Medicare and Social Security by 10% is not something voters would want. Nor would I be willing to cut the funding of the Marines while they are at war, nor the funds of the FBI that protects us from terrorists here at home. I'm sorry, but your proposal is fatally flawed.

99 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:12:17pm

re: #92 Pete(Detroit)

Not so sure, Mitch -
think of it as more of a 'wake up call' to coagulate, activate, defecate!
And put 'responsible' folks in charge.
Agree, we get the bungholes we vote for. But there's a bunch of folks out there pretty PO'd at being snowed, and not going to stand for it any more.
Whether it amounts to more than a fart in the kitchen remains to be seen...

YES, LET US SHIT UPON THOSE WHO DISAGREE WITH US!

100 Pete(Detroit)  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:12:22pm

re: #74 Querent

Good for you then -- stay safe & sane.

i can make the same observation about the many volunteer border patrol movements -- lots of concerned folks (whether rightly or wrongly), and a quotient of snakes to play on their fears and corrupt them to Bad Crazy.

Thanks, will endeavor to persevere..
/Josey Wales

101 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:12:40pm

re: #95 b_sharp

You have to learn to pace yourself.

i give an upding to anything that makes me grin, and since i'd been off LGF for some 8 months, i've been making up for lost time!

102 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:13:08pm

Can't we just go back to the time honored traditions of looting and pillaging?

103 The Bunny  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:13:23pm

re: #98 Dark_Falcon

Up ding for the marines if nothing else.

104 Varek Raith  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:14:11pm

re: #102 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Can't we just go back to the time honored traditions of looting and pillaging?

Aye, matey!

105 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:14:26pm

re: #95 b_sharp
BTW, since that made me laugh, upding!

106 Dark_Falcon  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:14:52pm

re: #88 engineer dog

whenever i take a look at glen beck's routine i can't help but think of that poor paranoid psychotic guy in 'a beautiful mind'

The thing is that Nash actually expanded human knowledge. Glenn Beck just rants and raves for money.

107 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:15:05pm

re: #82 SpaceJesus

where was the tea party in 2007

Running full steam ahead for their man Ron Paul.

Roots.

108 Pete(Detroit)  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:15:55pm

re: #83 jamesfirecat

Dude you only look more like an idiot every time you suggest across the board cuts.

Across the board cuts are only going to make our government worse as we people struggle to find ways to funnel more money to their pet projects and leave less to do the real work.

We should do investigation, find out what our money is being spent on that actually achieves stuff for us and what is being wasted.

Across the board cuts are the solution of a lazy mind.

So, you at least agree that $$$ are being wasted, "pet projects" are over / funded at all, and gov't is too huge?
Good - we have a starting point..

109 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:17:07pm

re: #108 Pete(Detroit)

So, you at least agree that $$$ are being wasted, "pet projects" are over / funded at all, and gov't is too huge?
Good - we have a starting point..

I'll give you pet projects.

Now explain to me how we can measure when our government is "too huge"

110 Varek Raith  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:17:14pm

re: #108 Pete(Detroit)

So, you at least agree that $$$ are being wasted, "pet projects" are over / funded at all, and gov't is too huge?
Good - we have a starting point..

What's the government's ideal size?

111 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:17:26pm

re: #110 Varek Raith

What's the government's ideal size?

Bathtub.

112 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:17:31pm

re: #93 Varek Raith

I want an Arcanum Progress Report from you ASAP, young man!

113 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:17:39pm

re: #107 Slumbering Behemoth

Running full steam ahead for their man Ron Paul.

Roots.


maybe. i find it hard to imagine them existing if hillary or biden were president

114 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:17:41pm

re: #110 Varek Raith

Smaller than me?

115 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:17:44pm

re: #110 Varek Raith

What's the government's ideal size?

are we downsizing it or 'right-sizing' it?

116 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:18:03pm

FYI

NYPD update: No bomb found in rental truck abandoned on NY’s RFK/Triboro Bridge; traffic to resume shortly [Link: bit.ly...]

117 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:18:22pm

re: #111 jamesfirecat

Bathtub.

rub-a-dub-dub, three senators in a tub?

118 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:18:49pm

re: #110 Varek Raith

What's the government's ideal size?

2

119 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:18:53pm

re: #116 Stanley Sea
and there was much rejoicing.

120 Varek Raith  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:19:16pm

re: #112 Slumbering Behemoth

I want an Arcanum Progress Report from you ASAP, young man!

I...I'm sorry, Mr. SB. I haven't been doing my homework...
:(
Haven't played any games in weeks...
:(

121 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:20:31pm

re: #108 Pete(Detroit)

What do you think should be cut?

122 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:20:39pm

re: #110 Varek Raith

What's the government's ideal size?

I'd vote for something on the order of "Behemoth".
/But of course, you knew I would.

123 Nimed  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:21:33pm

re: #79 Pete(Detroit)

Can we start w/ a 10% whack across the board, starting from 2007 levels?
For a freakin START?!?!

Can we at least agree that the gov't is too effing HUGE?

If not, there is not a place to even start

>sigh

The Tea Party relies heavily in platitudes like "small government", "tax cuts" and "fiscal responsibility" because their leaders realize that, as soon as somebody make concrete budget proposals, the movement falls apart. You can't cut defense (heresy!), since most tea partiers are Conservatives and favor the current wars. You can't cut Medicare, because half the tea partiers either rely on it now or will very soon. Same for Social Security. And these are the big chunks of the Federal budgets.

Defending tax cuts is insanity at this point, and of course incompatible with "fiscal responsibility".

124 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:21:38pm

re: #121 Floral Giraffe

What do you think should be cut?

What part of EVERYTHING do you people not understand?

125 Firstinla  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:21:54pm

Someone once asked the Pope how many people work in the Vatican. The Pope responded, "About half." That would apply to many aspect of our state and federal governments.

126 Dark_Falcon  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:22:01pm

re: #122 Slumbering Behemoth

I'd vote for something on the order of "Behemoth".
/But of course, you knew I would.

And government should mostly be slumbering, correct? ;)

127 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:22:02pm

Field trip for black students in Mich. draws anger


DETROIT — A school district in Michigan is defending its intentions after a field trip by African-American elementary students drew complaints from excluded children and their parents.

Officials said Wednesday that 30 students from Dicken Elementary School in Ann Arbor met last week with an African-American rocket scientist at the University of Michigan. It was part of a larger effort to help close persistent test-score gaps between black and white students.

District spokeswoman Liz Margolis says the students were booed by others when they returned, and Principal Mike Madison admonished those children for their response. Madison told parents in a letter that the activity could have been approached better but the goal was positive.

Officials will also discuss the matter at a parent-teacher meeting Thursday.

I thought segregation ended years ago.

128 Daniel Ballard  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:22:15pm

Some things just never change.

“People in this world look at things mistakenly, and think that what they do not understand must be the void. This is not the true void. It is bewilderment...”
Miyamoto Musashi

129 b_sharp  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:22:46pm

re: #122 Slumbering Behemoth

I'd vote for something on the order of "Behemoth".
/But of course, you knew I would.

Would that be close to leviathan?

130 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:23:15pm

re: #113 SpaceJesus

maybe. i find it hard to imagine them existing if hillary or biden were president

They would exist, but they'd still be the marginal group of kooks that this latest influx of "Tea-baggers" has always made fun of.

131 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:23:20pm

re: #129 b_sharp

Would that be close to leviathan?

More on the order of Big Furry Monster?

132 b_sharp  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:23:30pm

re: #124 jamesfirecat

What part of EVERYTHING do you people not understand?

The part on the right.

133 Pete(Detroit)  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:23:37pm

re: #98 Dark_Falcon

No, we cannot. Cutting Medicare and Social Security by 10% is not something voters would want. Nor would I be willing to cut the funding of the Marines while they are at war, nor the funds of the FBI that protects us from terrorists here at home. I'm sorry, but your proposal is fatally flawed.

Sorry, but do you seriously think there is not 10% pure WASTE involved here?
Martin Gross has gone over the books and suggested we could cut 25% from the gov't funding And Never Miss It for nearly 20 years.
Agreed, medicare and SSoc are "golden cows" for now - SSoc will see drastic cuts a/o 'means testing' well before I'm "eligible"
Yes, keeping us safe at home is one of the 'Constitutional' duties of the Fed, but funding the additional purchase of planes / vehicles / armament that the Pentagon has specifically said they don't want, just because the plants that make 'em are in your district, in MY mind could be cut.
Just sayin'..

134 engineer cat  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:24:00pm

here is a nice pie chart showing all the federal budget pie. i think all the pieces of the pie are tasty to somebody...

here is the wiksterpedia article it came from, with lots of scary budget facts

my personal take is that all the pie is necessary - it's just that the prices we pay for it and the financing are out of whack

135 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:24:27pm

re: #120 Varek Raith

Probably for the best. It can be pretty addictive at times, if you're into that sort of RPG.

136 Nimed  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:24:58pm

re: #123 Nimed

Blah. PIMF, and too many typos to bother.

137 freetoken  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:26:18pm

The House Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming apparently is having a hearing tomorrow.

The Dems are calling three witnesses, scientists.

The GOP is calling one "expert" witness.... The Lord High Denier himself!

See linkage for more.

Will have to try and catch the CSPAN vid tomorrow night.

138 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:26:57pm

re: #137 freetoken

The House Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming apparently is having a hearing tomorrow.

The Dems are calling three witnesses, scientists.

The GOP is calling one "expert" witness... The Lord High Denier himself!

See linkage for more.

Will have to try and catch the CSPAN vid tomorrow night.

I good sir have a doctorate in Truthology from Christian Tech!

139 Varek Raith  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:27:12pm

I think some of us can agree that Preview just doesn't like everybody here. I mean, would a true friend let you make a grammatical fool of yourself???
;)

140 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:27:13pm

Seeing double. Must be time for bed. Later!

141 Pete(Detroit)  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:27:25pm

re: #109 jamesfirecat

I'll give you pet projects.

Now explain to me how we can measure when our government is "too huge"

When it consumes more than x% of GDP? (We can debate 'x')
When it commits us to generational servitude?
When it invades every aspect of our lives?
When it tells us how much $$ we make is "enough"
I mean, really, just WHERE the Eff do these guys step OFF?

142 Pete(Detroit)  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:28:04pm

re: #110 Varek Raith

What's the government's ideal size?

as close to zero as is reasonably possible

143 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:28:20pm

re: #137 freetoken

The House Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming apparently is having a hearing tomorrow.

The Dems are calling three witnesses, scientists.

The GOP is calling one "expert" witness... The Lord High Denier himself!

See linkage for more.

Will have to try and catch the CSPAN vid tomorrow night.

You're either with us, or based in reality. The GOP is blowing it.

144 b_sharp  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:28:30pm

re: #137 freetoken

The House Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming apparently is having a hearing tomorrow.

The Dems are calling three witnesses, scientists.

The GOP is calling one "expert" witness... The Lord High Denier himself!

See linkage for more.

Will have to try and catch the CSPAN vid tomorrow night.

I hope someone there mentions the name 'Tim Lambert' just to see Lord Full of Himself panic.

145 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:29:11pm

re: #141 Pete(Detroit)

When it consumes more than x% of GDP? (We can debate 'x')
When it commits us to generational servitude?
When it invades every aspect of our lives?
When it tells us how much $$ we make is "enough"
I mean, really, just WHERE the Eff do these guys step OFF?

The government is "too huge" when it is providing services that are not needed.

No more no less.

There are areas where I wish it was smaller (YOU IDIOTS NEED TO STOP TALKING ABOUT ABORTION!)

But there are also areas where I wish it was bigger, as in everyone should have the option of buying into government run insurance.


What services is the government providing at the moment that you feel aren't needed?

146 Varek Raith  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:29:18pm

re: #142 Pete(Detroit)

as close to zero as is reasonably possible

Specifics?

147 b_sharp  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:29:37pm

re: #139 Varek Raith

I think some of us can agree that Preview just doesn't like everybody here. I mean, would a true friend let you make a grammatical fool of yourself???
;)

If it was funny enough.

148 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:29:59pm

re: #144 b_sharp

I hope someone there mentions the name 'Tim Lambert' just to see Lord Full of Himself panic.

Tim Lambert, is he that guy who travels through time and zaps people with a glove or a key chain?

(Nobody, nobody is going to get that joke...)

149 Nimed  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:30:03pm

re: #133 Pete(Detroit)

Sorry, but do you seriously think there is not 10% pure WASTE involved here?
Martin Gross has gone over the books and suggested we could cut 25% from the gov't funding And Never Miss It for nearly 20 years.
Agreed, medicare and SSoc are "golden cows" for now - SSoc will see drastic cuts a/o 'means testing' well before I'm "eligible"
Yes, keeping us safe at home is one of the 'Constitutional' duties of the Fed, but funding the additional purchase of planes / vehicles / armament that the Pentagon has specifically said they don't want, just because the plants that make 'em are in your district, in MY mind could be cut.
Just sayin'..

Shrug. We can the discuss the merits of your proposals one by one. However, I don't think you realize that many, if not most of the tea partiers disagree with your definition of waste.

Please produce a single example of a specific budget cut proposal that is supported by the Tea Party movement.

150 PAUL_MACDONALD  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:30:50pm

re: #59 Pete(Detroit)

ALL of it?

Like how Palin reads all the newspapers?

151 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:30:55pm

re: #142 Pete(Detroit)

Are you a Ron/Rand Paul supporter?

152 engineer cat  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:31:11pm

re: #141 Pete(Detroit)

however, budget items cannot be cut generally, they must be cut specifically. you name categories - how about items? specific items

153 b_sharp  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:31:45pm

re: #148 jamesfirecat

Tim Lambert, is he that guy who travels through time and zaps people with a glove or a key chain?

(Nobody, nobody is going to get that joke...)

I didn't.

154 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:31:48pm

re: #140 NJDhockeyfan

Seeing double. Must be time for bed. Later!

They are twins, and yes.

155 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:32:49pm

as the silence descends, and arguments are prepared...

156 b_sharp  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:33:04pm

re: #154 Slumbering Behemoth

They are twins, and yes.

The twin peaks of Kilimanjaro?

157 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:33:12pm

re: #149 Nimed

Shrug. We can the discuss the merits of your proposals one by one. However, I don't think you realize that many, if not most of the tea partiers disagree with your definition of waste.

Please produce a single example of a specific budget cut proposal that is supported by the Tea Party movement.

Oh I know this one!

Foreign Aid!

158 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:33:21pm

re: #148 jamesfirecat

Tim Lambert, is he that guy who travels through time and zaps people with a glove or a key chain?

(Nobody, nobody is going to get that joke...)

Voyagers?

159 freetoken  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:33:52pm

According to Markey's office
, one of the purposes of the hearing is explicitly:

Even after months of personal attacks against climate scientists stemming from a manufactured scandal over stolen emails, the underlying science behind the need to stem the tide of heat-trapping emissions remains solid. To explain what we know about climate change, and why and how we know it, Chairman Edward J. Markey (D-Mass.) and the Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming will host top-level American climate scientists at a congressional hearing this Thursday, May 6, 2010.

The scientists will address the claims of deniers head-on. Thursday’s panel features a member of the investigative panel convened by the University of East Anglia and led by Lord Ron Oxburgh to review the stolen emails from that school’s Climactic Research Unit. The “Oxburgh Inquiry” exonerated the scientists who were attacked following the emails, saying they “saw no evidence of any deliberate scientific malpractice in any of the work.”

The GOP, to answer the claims of scientists, are calling a showman, a histrionic salesman of dung.

The GOP has entirely surrendered any influence in that realm of human endeavor in which America is deeply invested, science.

160 engineer cat  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:34:31pm

le'hitra'ot!

161 PAUL_MACDONALD  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:36:07pm

re: #157 jamesfirecat

Oh I know this one!

Foreign Aid!

The "Arts"?

NASA?

I like being Canadian. Tea Partiers would suffer a stroke if they understood the scope of our government.

162 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:37:17pm

re: #161 PAUL_MACDONALD

The "Arts"?

NASA?

I like being Canadian. Tea Partiers would suffer a stroke if they understood the scope of our government.

"The arts"

I would tax the nude in my bedroom... no not tax, what's the word... welcome!

163 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:39:00pm

re: #159 freetoken

According to Markey's office
, one of the purposes of the hearing is explicitly:

The GOP, to answer the claims of scientists, are calling a showman, a histrionic salesman of dung.

The GOP has entirely surrendered any influence in that realm of human endeavor in which America is deeply invested, science.

Emphasis. This is not good.

164 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:39:00pm

re: #142 Pete(Detroit)

as close to zero as is reasonably possible

WTF does that even mean? Close to zero military defense? Close to zero law enforcement? Close to zero safe food and drug regulations? Close to zero educational standards?

Should we dismantle the FCC and allow the possibility of hard-core, XXX pornography being aired on daytime television (I might actually like that), and allow planes to crash due to "close to zero" communication interference standards?

I don't get it. It sounds like a one-off bumper-sticker slogan with little to no meaning nor merit.

165 Pete(Detroit)  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:40:17pm

re: #149 Nimed


Please produce a single example of a specific budget cut proposal that is supported by the Tea Party movement.

O'Care? "Stim / Porkulus"? jus to name two...
Personally, I think the dep't of Ed that educates no one, the dep't of Transportation that transports nothing, and the dep't of Energy, that was formed in the 70's to "reduce our dependence on foreign oil" and has spent $$$B (if not T - don't have the figures to hand, sorry) could ALL be drastically cut.
We could look at HEW, or HUD, or what ever it's called lately (Human Services?) and see WTF they are actually doing.
Arguably, the whole 'war on poverty' has been a total loss, and should be scrapped wholesale
See also the 'war on drugs' and DEA funding
Keep ICE - *if* they start enforcing the law..
'nuff to start on?

And sorry all, thanks much for a Very Lively time, but alarm rings early, and it's late... hate to bomb and run, but I gotta GO...

Perhaps another time.

166 Varek Raith  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:40:37pm

re: #164 Slumbering Behemoth

possibility of hard-core, XXX pornography being aired on daytime television

Yes.
.
.
.
What?
:P

167 Pete(Detroit)  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:40:58pm

re: #151 Stanley Sea

Are you a Ron/Rand Paul supporter?

Quickie - Ron Paul, no
Ayn Rand, yes

168 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:40:59pm

re: #161 PAUL_MACDONALD

The "Arts"?

NASA?

I like being Canadian. Tea Partiers would suffer a stroke if they understood the scope of our government.

Government subsidizing of various "faith based" initiatives and home schooling programs?

169 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:41:21pm

re: #167 Pete(Detroit)

Quickie - Ron Paul, no
Ayn Rand, yes

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?

170 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:41:43pm

Hard core Porn? Hmm?

171 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:42:10pm

re: #130 Slumbering Behemoth

They would exist, but they'd still be the marginal group of kooks that this latest influx of "Tea-baggers" has always made fun of.

"black man in the white house you say??"

"not on my watch!"

*grabs tricorn, joins tea party*

172 PAUL_MACDONALD  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:42:27pm

re: #168 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Government subsidizing of various "faith based" initiatives and home schooling programs?

It's a fun game.

Best summed up with "Keep your government hands off my Medicare"

173 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:43:06pm

re: #165 Pete(Detroit)

O'Care? "Stim / Porkulus"? jus to name two...
Personally, I think the dep't of Ed that educates no one, the dep't of Transportation that transports nothing, and the dep't of Energy, that was formed in the 70's to "reduce our dependence on foreign oil" and has spent $$$B (if not T - don't have the figures to hand, sorry) could ALL be drastically cut.
We could look at HEW, or HUD, or what ever it's called lately (Human Services?) and see WTF they are actually doing.
Arguably, the whole 'war on poverty' has been a total loss, and should be scrapped wholesale
See also the 'war on drugs' and DEA funding
Keep ICE - *if* they start enforcing the law..
'nuff to start on?

And sorry all, thanks much for a Very Lively time, but alarm rings early, and it's late... hate to bomb and run, but I gotta GO...

Perhaps another time.

I'll give you the DEA, legalize every drug in the nation, and have standard versions of it with a seal of approval for sale in 7-11's! I want to be able to buy not just put but crack and coke as well!
(Only half sarcastic so I guess that's a %P% )

174 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:43:09pm

re: #172 PAUL_MACDONALD

It's a fun game.

Best summed up with "Keep your government hands off my Medicare"

I'm touching it. Does this bug you?

175 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:44:09pm

re: #167 Pete(Detroit)

Quickie - Ron Paul, no
Ayn Rand, yes

Thank you for answering. I am clear now.

176 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:44:10pm

re: #167 Pete(Detroit)

Quickie - Ron Paul, no
Ayn Rand, yes

What about Ayn Rand so makes you approve of her exactly?

177 Pete(Detroit)  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:45:21pm

re: #168 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Government subsidizing of various "faith based" initiatives and home schooling programs?

YES to that - keep the gub'mint OFF the religious text of choice.
Also, yes, "the arts"
Also, yes, foreign aid to countries that poo on us.
But, I perceive that that most have moved on, as am I..

178 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:45:39pm

re: #176 jamesfirecat

What about Ayn Rand so makes you approve of her exactly?

maybe he uses the 'novels' as a brain colonic -- read 5 chapters of Atlas a day for six days, and on the seventh, your brain will vomit up every bit of BS it's absorbed since the last time you read it.

(that just-completed reading included)

179 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:45:42pm

By the way since its clear no one is going to come along and get my reference to number 148 here it is....

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

180 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:46:10pm

re: #178 Querent

(hey, that's what I keep them around for! For that sparkly clean brain feeling!)

181 Nimed  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:46:50pm

re: #165 Pete(Detroit)

O'Care? "Stim / Porkulus"? jus to name two...
Personally, I think the dep't of Ed that educates no one, the dep't of Transportation that transports nothing, and the dep't of Energy, that was formed in the 70's to "reduce our dependence on foreign oil" and has spent $$$B (if not T - don't have the figures to hand, sorry) could ALL be drastically cut.
We could look at HEW, or HUD, or what ever it's called lately (Human Services?) and see WTF they are actually doing.
Arguably, the whole 'war on poverty' has been a total loss, and should be scrapped wholesale
See also the 'war on drugs' and DEA funding
Keep ICE - *if* they start enforcing the law..
'nuff to start on?

And sorry all, thanks much for a Very Lively time, but alarm rings early, and it's late... hate to bomb and run, but I gotta GO...

Perhaps another time.

The stimulus package will fade out almost completely within the next year, and cutting it would be disastrous for states' budgets. HCR is projected to save money (but I guess you can't really trust those CBO projections, right?).

All your other stuff is peanuts in the federal budget. But the main point is that you started with the word "personally". I also have a lot of things I would cut "personally". To repeat the question:

Please produce a single example of a specific budget cut proposal that is supported by the Tea Party movement.

182 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:47:09pm

re: #177 Pete(Detroit)

YES to that - keep the gub'mint OFF the religious text of choice.
Also, yes, "the arts"
Also, yes, foreign aid to countries that poo on us.
But, I perceive that that most have moved on, as am I..

Don't leave now, you're the only thing that has made this thread interesting!

183 Dark_Falcon  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:48:01pm

re: #176 jamesfirecat

What about Ayn Rand so makes you approve of her exactly?

Maybe its her lack of mercy, maybe her crush on a murderer...

184 Pete(Detroit)  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:48:26pm

re: #176 jamesfirecat

What about Ayn Rand so makes you approve of her exactly?

Woman can write a sex scene!
Seriously - reward success, do NOT reward indolence / incompetence.
Pretty straight forward.

REALLY leaving now.
Thanx for playing!
You may keep your version of the Home Game

185 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:48:42pm

re: #183 Dark_Falcon

Maybe its her lack of mercy, maybe her crush on a murderer...

Now, now, it might be that he just her "rough sex' scenes...

186 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:48:53pm

ugh. ugh. ugh.

187 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:49:28pm

re: #184 Pete(Detroit)
have an upding for the road, you made me laugh.

(granted, i'm easy to amuse, especially on LGF. And be careful, even if we're all in good moods, it's still a tough room!)

188 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:50:03pm

goodbye detroit pete

189 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:50:11pm

re: #184 Pete(Detroit)

Woman can write a sex scene!
Seriously - reward success, do NOT reward indolence / incompetence.
Pretty straight forward.

REALLY leaving now.
Thanx for playing!
You may keep your version of the Home Game

HOLY CRAP!

I was right.....

Yeah Ayn Rand knows how to right a sex scene....

And there's nothing at all disturbing about her sex scenes either....

I'll just be leaving this in my wake for some good natured fun...

[Link: www.joketribe.com...]

190 Varek Raith  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:50:23pm

re: #169 jamesfirecat

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?

"But master, does not the fire need the water, does not the mountain need the storm too? And does not your scrotum need the kicking?"
-Beavis

191 Nimed  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:50:50pm

re: #177 Pete(Detroit)

YES to that - keep the gub'mint OFF the religious text of choice.
Also, yes, "the arts"
Also, yes, foreign aid to countries that poo on us.
But, I perceive that that most have moved on, as am I..

Foreign aid is 0.2% of the federal budget. The biggest current beneficiaries are Iraq, Israel, Egypt and Afghanistan. Are these countries that "poo on us"? Would you cut aid to these countries?

192 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:50:56pm

Ohh and a shout out to my brave and dedicated fans. If you are going to quote me, why not quote the parts where I point out everything wrong scientifically with your nonsense on smart grids? You were after all, completely and thoroughly debunked.

Why not debate that?

193 PAUL_MACDONALD  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:51:23pm

re: #177 Pete(Detroit)

YES to that - keep the gub'mint OFF the religious text of choice.
Also, yes, "the arts"
Also, yes, foreign aid to countries that poo on us.
But, I perceive that that most have moved on, as am I..

Damn the government and the department of religious text editing.
Arts funding in the USA is already incredibly low. As close to zero as possible, I would say.

Which countries? US foreign aid is pretty low, per capita, as well.

You're keeping the highways, though, right? And the FBI...

194 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:51:31pm

re: #171 SpaceJesus

There is a percentage of that sentiment. There is also the percentage that believes the sun never shines under a democrat admin.

Much of the rhetoric I hear now from far right reactionaries are echos from the Clinton admin., and the majority of their "sochulist ajenduh" proclamations then did not come from a place of racism. It came from a place of abject stupidity and unsubstantiated fear.

195 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:51:44pm

re: #192 LudwigVanQuixote

got your own personal flock of seagulls, LVQ?

196 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:54:09pm

re: #194 Slumbering Behemoth

There is a percentage of that sentiment. There is also the percentage that believes the sun never shines under a democrat admin.

Much of the rhetoric I hear now from far right reactionaries are echos from the Clinton admin., and the majority of their "sochulist ajenduh" proclamations then did not come from a place of racism. It came from a place of abject stupidity and unsubstantiated fear.


sure, but did they have big ass tea parties back then and walk around DC with guns and call clinton an african usurper muslim devil

197 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:54:24pm

re: #189 jamesfirecat
tee hee.

198 bratwurst  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:54:31pm

re: #165 Pete(Detroit)

hate to bomb and run

I don't know if you are running, but mission accomplished on the first part.

199 Dark_Falcon  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:55:16pm

re: #192 LudwigVanQuixote

Ohh and a shout out to my brave and dedicated fans. If you are going to quote me, why not quote the parts where I point out everything wrong scientifically with your nonsense on smart grids? You were after all, completely and thoroughly debunked.

Why not debate that?

You've answered your own question before, Ludwig. The detractors can't match you fact to fact, so they use personal attacks to try to turn you into an ogre.

200 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:55:28pm

re: #198 bratwurst

I don't know if you are running, but mission accomplished on the first part.

But not the sort of "bomb" he expected I think...

201 PAUL_MACDONALD  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:55:47pm

Whenever I see Rand references, I am reminded of this:

The Fountainhead in 5 seconds

202 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:55:59pm

re: #199 Dark_Falcon

You've answered your own question before, Ludwig. The detractors can't match you fact to fact, so they use personal attacks to try to turn you into an ogre.

I ought to club them and eat their bones....

203 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:56:52pm

re: #202 jamesfirecat

I ought to club them and eat their bones...

And he has layers too...

...to go along with that accent.

204 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:56:54pm

re: #192 LudwigVanQuixote

It is, I believe, your fault.
I have started the "Wheel of Time" series.
I am up to page 120 of the first book.
This is going to seriously cut into my LGF time...
I like the story, so far!

205 Nimed  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:57:37pm

re: #184 Pete(Detroit)

Woman can write a sex scene!
Seriously - reward success, do NOT reward indolence / incompetence.
Pretty straight forward.

REALLY leaving now.
Thanx for playing!
You may keep your version of the Home Game

Wait! We still haven't decided on a plan to promote small government!

206 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:57:59pm

re: #204 Floral Giraffe

great -- next, go to Museum Replicas dot com and you can own the marketing tie-in sword...

207 jordash1212  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:58:23pm

I remember last year when a professor had us do an assignment regarding the Tea Parties, and he was up in front of class summarizing their political agenda. All of a sudden he drops the line "Tea Baggers" which resulted in some snickering from us students. He kept doing it, and I just thought it was a mistake -- nothing pejorative or intentional. Even on one of his handouts he had written "tea baggers."

I do not understand how anyone taking them seriously can call them "tea baggers."

208 Varek Raith  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:58:30pm

Ayn Rand. Lol.

209 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:59:37pm

re: #195 Querent

got your own personal flock of seagulls, LVQ?

I sure do. Tonight is a slow night for them apparently. Only 26 posts insulting me. In the past I have gotten whole threads.

Of course, actually looking at how their little fearless leader got demolished and why is beyond them. That would require actually looking at facts.

For those who are curious It is not as if I enjoy the attentions of my flock of admirers. However, since I have it, and these truly are detestable scum, I can take some small pleasure in rubbing their noses in their pathetic stupidity.

210 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 9:59:43pm

re: #208 Varek Raith

Ayn Rand. Lol.

"Dick Cheney... and that's it I don't even need to tell a joke you people are already laughing!"


Paraphrasing Lewis Black.

211 freetoken  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:00:04pm

H. Smith, candidate for Congress, whom SJ brought to our attention, attempts to explain to a Tea Partier "vetting" Mr. Smith that her favored "Fair Tax" is really a silly idea:

Hehe... she's not buying his dismissal of it...

Any, Mr. Smith sounds like a nice old guy with some old fashioned ideas who just needs to talk. Probably somebody fine to have dinner with... but doesn't belong in Congress.

212 Dark_Falcon  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:00:14pm

re: #202 jamesfirecat

I ought to club them and eat their bones...

No, squeeze the jelly from their eyeballs to spread upon Ludwig's morning bagel.

/

213 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:00:14pm

conservatives are the new Jews at free republic i guess

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]


"Here is how it works: 'They' need to divide us and vilify us. So first they find the division: We saw it with H1N1. Here we found that Right-wing conservatives seemed to be more resistant to getting a vaccine. Good. That means that the next illness to come about (Whether real or false) will serve as the dividing line. Those who get vaccinated will GLADLY turn in those that don’t, in the efforts of not being infected.

Conservatives will be loaded onto trains at gun point. We will be lead to the countryside where we will be grouped in camps. Surprise, Surprise. In those camps we will all die."


lol

214 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:00:17pm

Well, I'm fuming that the GOP is relying on Monckton for their side of the debate.

What a fucking sham.

215 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:00:29pm

re: #206 Querent

great -- next, go to Museum Replicas dot com and you can own the marketing tie-in sword...

LOL!
No, thank you. I have a BUNCH of Franklin Mint soldiers that I inherited.
Original, in the box, almost worth hauling to Goodwill, but not quite.

216 Nimed  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:00:31pm

re: #201 PAUL_MACDONALD

Whenever I see Rand references, I am reminded of this:

The Fountainhead in 5 seconds

Lovely! Do you know the comic strip equivalent for Atlas Shrugged?

Image: atlass.gif

217 Varek Raith  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:01:30pm

re: #213 SpaceJesus

conservatives are the new Jews at free republic i guess

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

"Here is how it works: 'They' need to divide us and vilify us. So first they find the division: We saw it with H1N1. Here we found that Right-wing conservatives seemed to be more resistant to getting a vaccine. Good. That means that the next illness to come about (Whether real or false) will serve as the dividing line. Those who get vaccinated will GLADLY turn in those that don’t, in the efforts of not being infected.

Conservatives will be loaded onto trains at gun point. We will be lead to the countryside where we will be grouped in camps. Surprise, Surprise. In those camps we will all die."

lol

INCOMING BLACK HELICOPTERS MADE FROM GOOOLLLDDD!11!!

218 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:01:37pm

re: #209 LudwigVanQuixote

are those posts here or elsewhere?

219 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:01:42pm

re: #199 Dark_Falcon

You've answered your own question before, Ludwig. The detractors can't match you fact to fact, so they use personal attacks to try to turn you into an ogre.

They can't match a competent middle schooler fact to fact. It isn't about me being an ogre to them. I would always be an ogre to them. I am everything they would hate - smarter, better educated, not a homophone or a sexist, not a crypto-fascist, not a racist and perhaps most importantly, popular here while their pathetic asses got banned.

220 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:02:22pm

re: #196 SpaceJesus

The internet wasn't as ubiquitous back then. Like minded reactionaries had to rely on trading basement printed newsletters and Alex Jones produced VHS tapes.

Anyhow, I am not denying that there is a racist element in a percentage of those who knee jerk at this current admin. It is there. I am just pointing out that there is a larger percentage of reactionaries who would eagerly engage in this fear/conspiracy mongering garbage regardless of the color of a dem. POTUS.

/This message has been brought to you by your Friendly, Neighborhood Republican RINO

221 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:02:24pm

re: #213 SpaceJesus

conservatives are the new Jews at free republic i guess

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

"Here is how it works: 'They' need to divide us and vilify us. So first they find the division: We saw it with H1N1. Here we found that Right-wing conservatives seemed to be more resistant to getting a vaccine. Good. That means that the next illness to come about (Whether real or false) will serve as the dividing line. Those who get vaccinated will GLADLY turn in those that don’t, in the efforts of not being infected.

Conservatives will be loaded onto trains at gun point. We will be lead to the countryside where we will be grouped in camps. Surprise, Surprise. In those camps we will all die."

lol

/Dude, if conservatives are less likely to get vaccines why not just create a disease that only a vaccine will cure, spread it among the populace with warning an ample chances for Obama's liberal followers to get the vaccine first? Oh wait I forgot government can't do anything efficiently....

222 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:02:36pm

re: #217 Varek Raith

INCOMING BLACK HELICOPTERS MADE FROM GOOOLLLDDD!11!!

They're firing evil hybrid seed laden death down upon us!

223 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:02:39pm

re: #217 Varek Raith

INCOMING BLACK HELICOPTERS MADE FROM GOOOLLLDDD!11!!


black helicopters? obama is black! it all makes sense now!

224 freetoken  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:02:47pm

re: #213 SpaceJesus

At least they'll have their non-hybrid seeds to give them comfort.

225 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:02:54pm

re: #204 Floral Giraffe

It is, I believe, your fault.
I have started the "Wheel of Time" series.
I am up to page 120 of the first book.
This is going to seriously cut into my LGF time...
I like the story, so far!

NO NO don't do it! I said Ice and Fire! Ice and Fire... I have seen good students drop whole GPA points because of wheel of time. There is some crack like coating on the pages!

226 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:02:59pm

re: #213 SpaceJesus

You really had the stalkers in fits the other night.
*fistbump*

(OMG, is this the same SJ? Am I the same FG? What has happened?)

227 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:03:29pm

re: #218 Querent

are those posts here or elsewhere?

Elsewhere. Can't say where.

228 Varek Raith  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:04:06pm

re: #226 Floral Giraffe

You really had the stalkers in fits the other night.
*fistbump*

(OMG, is this the same SJ? Am I the same FG? What has happened?)

Damn, SJ's karma is approaching 1000!
Quick everyone, upding his posts!
:)

229 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:04:23pm

re: #222 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

They're firing evil hybrid seed laden death down upon us!

Donut seeds!
(Told you I was stealing that!)

230 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:04:29pm

re: #226 Floral Giraffe

You really had the stalkers in fits the other night.
*fistbump*

(OMG, is this the same SJ? Am I the same FG? What has happened?)

FG come to the dark side... they hate you too!

231 PAUL_MACDONALD  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:04:34pm

re: #216 Nimed

Lovely! Do you know the comic strip equivalent for Atlas Shrugged?

Image: atlass.gif

There's a 1 paragraph summary of that book somewhere. I honestly think that those that read it and LIKED it, never actually read it at all.

232 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:04:51pm

re: #227 LudwigVanQuixote

Elsewhere. Can't say where.

Classified. Gotcha.

233 Varek Raith  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:05:05pm

re: #230 LudwigVanQuixote

FG come to the dark side... they hate you too!

Do they hate me???
XD

234 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:05:13pm

re: #220 Slumbering Behemoth


maybe. i just find it odd that these folks werent around when bush drastically expanded the size of federal government. im sure the majority are based on being reactionary, crazy and ignorant... it's just that im willing to bet from their rhetoric and behavior that a black president was the tipping point for them to start going outside with their misspelled signs and lawnchairs

235 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:05:13pm

re: #231 PAUL_MACDONALD

There's a 1 paragraph summary of that book somewhere. I honestly think that those that read it and LIKED it, never actually read it at all.

It's like longer than all three Lord of the Rings books put together isn't it? Who could actually read the damn thing?

236 Mark Pennington  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:05:28pm

From the movie Pecker by John Waters. It's a no-teabagging establishment.

237 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:05:53pm

re: #213 SpaceJesus

That's the same kind of conspiracy mongering that was spewed during the Clinton admin. You'd think we'd all be in gov't work camps by now.

238 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:06:13pm

re: #230 LudwigVanQuixote

Wags her commando bottom at the stalkers.
Hi fellas!

Yes, upon reflection, I will post that.
It's in bad taste, but, well, so are they!

239 Varek Raith  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:06:15pm

re: #237 Slumbering Behemoth

That's the same kind of conspiracy mongering that was spewed during the Clinton admin. You'd think we'd all be in gov't work camps by now.

Red tape.

240 freetoken  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:06:21pm

It's revealing... Mr. Smith, who was into accounting deeply, now retired, tries to explain to "Fair Tax" true-believing Tea Partiers that their favorite idea will hurt them, not help them.

But they reject him. He has expertise, they have true belief.

True belief wins.

241 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:06:29pm

re: #235 jamesfirecat

um... i've read the damn thing. more than once, i might add.

(and actually found it enjoyable if i skipped the ten-page speech)

242 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:06:33pm

re: #223 SpaceJesus

black helicopters? obama is black! it all makes sense now!

*is rodan*

243 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:07:24pm

re: #242 SpaceJesus

*is rodan*


would you, could you
in japan?
with godzilla
and rodan?

244 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:07:30pm

re: #242 SpaceJesus

Rodant.

245 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:07:40pm

re: #236 beekiller

From the movie Pecker by John Waters. It's a no-teabagging establishment.


[Video]

Yeah!

246 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:07:55pm

re: #226 Floral Giraffe

You really had the stalkers in fits the other night.
*fistbump*

(OMG, is this the same SJ? Am I the same FG? What has happened?)


actually, according to stalkerblog.com, i am charles

247 Varek Raith  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:08:56pm

re: #246 SpaceJesus

actually, according to stalkerblog.com, i am charles

We are all Charles, including Kosh.

248 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:08:58pm

re: #241 Querent

um... i've read the damn thing. more than once, i might add.

(and actually found it enjoyable if i skipped the ten-page speech)

It's only ten pages?

249 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:08:59pm

re: #246 SpaceJesus

actually, according to stalkerblog.com, i am charles

Well, you're in their heads, that's for sure.
Cue the scary music!
You do really well, kicking up dust over there.
*smooch*
Runs & hides.

250 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:09:27pm

re: #247 Varek Raith

We are all Charles, including Kosh.

I'm Spartacus, I mean Charles!

251 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:09:35pm

re: #247 Varek Raith

We are all Charles, including Kosh.

Except Finkle, he's Einhorn

252 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:09:36pm

re: #248 jamesfirecat

It's only ten pages?

yes. it only SEEMS like it takes up the whole book.

253 Dark_Falcon  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:11:41pm

re: #233 Varek Raith

Do they hate me???
XD

No, Varek, they do not know you. But I'm sure the Sun Crusher could attend to that quite quickly.

254 PAUL_MACDONALD  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:11:54pm

re: #235 jamesfirecat

It's like longer than all three Lord of the Rings books put together isn't it? Who could actually read the damn thing?

I don't know. Tea partiers claim to have read it. I think its more of a prop than anything else. Use it to pretend you're well read, or hold the door open. It's a multipurpose prop.

255 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:12:49pm

re: #252 Querent
of course for the most effective brain-cleansing, you have to grit your teeth and read the speeches along with the rest of the narrative.

(and then keep your head away from anything made of glass, lest you cut your precious cerebellum when your skull projectile-vomits your brain out...)

256 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:13:17pm

re: #254 PAUL_MACDONALD

I don't know. Tea partiers claim to have read it. I think its more of a prop than anything else. Use it to pretend you're well read, or hold the door open. It's a multipurpose prop.


it's certainly thick as a brick.

257 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:13:28pm

re: #254 PAUL_MACDONALD

I don't know. Tea partiers claim to have read it. I think its more of a prop than anything else. Use it to pretend you're well read, or hold the door open. It's a multipurpose prop.

There are many ways owning this book might improve your life, you could use it to prop up a table with a wobbly leg, you could throw it at a burglar bludgeoning them into submission, who knows you might even read it!

258 Reginald Perrin  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:13:34pm

re: #244 Floral Giraffe

Rodant.

Or as he is known at another blog, the simian faced Latin King wannabe

259 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:14:10pm

re: #233 Varek Raith

Do they hate me???
XD

I honestly don't check them regularly enough to say. However here are some angles guaranteed to piss them off - and then you too will have a devoted following.

1. Take the evolution is real and science in general is real stance.

2. Defend the rights of gay people.

3. Point out how the tea-baggers use nazi memes.

4. Defend Charles. Actually Charles is a very big boy and he can take care of himself, but he is also a good guy and when you write something supportive of him, trolls cry.

5. Point out that the Bible really does demand that we are good to the less fortunate - even if they aren't white.

6. Remind them that most women find their sweaty man boobs, continual macho posturing and other weak beta tendencies to be gross.

7. Remind them that calls for genocide are not cool.

8. Remind them that hanging out with people who call for genocide are not cool.

9. You can take a civil rights view of American law and remind them of all sorts of pesky things in the Constitution that get in the way of setting up the sort of backwards fascist theocracy they love.

10. You can ask why it is that Rodan just doesn't come out of the closet and admit that he wants a big hairy Muslim man to give it to him hard. He would be happier and he wouldn't have to drink so much.

260 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:14:39pm

re: #238 Floral Giraffe

Wags her commando bottom at the stalkers.
Hi fellas!

Yes, upon reflection, I will post that.
It's in bad taste, but, well, so are they!

We love your commando bottom!

261 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:15:03pm

re: #250 jamesfirecat

I'm Spartacus, I mean Charles!

By the way I feel at this point it needs to be said that this is extra funny to me, because my dad is actually named Charles.

So is my grandfather.

That wouldn't be especially noteworthy except that its my maternal grandfather.


(Waits a few moments while you guys do the caculations )

Yes you have that right, my mom married a guy with the same name as her dad.

And yet my family is shockingly normal!

262 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:15:09pm

re: #246 SpaceJesus

actually, according to stalkerblog.com, i am charles

They said I was Charles! Are you me?

263 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:15:17pm

re: #260 LudwigVanQuixote

We love your commando bottom!

that's not like gamy buttocks, is it?

264 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:15:21pm

re: #259 LudwigVanQuixote


10. You can ask why it is that Rodan just doesn't come out of the closet and admit that he wants a big hairy Muslim man to give it to him hard. He would be happier and he wouldn't have to drink so much.


hahahaha

265 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:15:36pm

re: #259 LudwigVanQuixote

Remind them that women can be as smart, or smarter than men.

266 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:15:51pm

re: #234 SpaceJesus

Trust me on this. As a former CDS sufferer and reactionary insider, it is the "Democrat" part of Obama that drives the insanity behind this movement much more so than the "Black" part. And again, I do not say this as to minimize any of the obvious racist elements that have been documented.

If Obama were a Republican, the teabagger opposition would consist of the same tiny, marginalized Paulian/Rand-bot/Troofer morons it always was composed of, plus a few more racists.

267 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:16:20pm

re: #260 LudwigVanQuixote

Oh, dear.
Well, yes I posted it.

*blushing a lot*

268 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:16:39pm

re: #265 Floral Giraffe

Remind them that women can be as smart, or smarter than men.

Ohh they hate that!

You can also remind them that Jesus does not cry when women enjoy sex.

269 wiffersnapper  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:17:10pm

It's no fair that teabagging has been stolen from the video game vocabulary and used for political profit. Jerks!

270 Varek Raith  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:17:16pm

re: #267 Floral Giraffe

Oh, dear.
Well, yes I posted it.

*blushing a lot*

271 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:18:30pm

re: #268 LudwigVanQuixote

They would SO enjoy a female poseur as a dominatrix, in black vinyl, to spice up their bed times. They just dream about it now!

272 PAUL_MACDONALD  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:18:39pm

re: #257 jamesfirecat

There are many ways owning this book might improve your life, you could use it to prop up a table with a wobbly leg, you could throw it at a burglar bludgeoning them into submission, who knows you might even read it!

Oh, I tried. The part where Dagny talks to the professor who can't remember the third student annoyed the shit out of me. We all know it's John Galt, you hack. The dude is a sensation! He's viral! Why would this old idiot forget who his best pupil was?

The book should have ended after the railway was built, because that's as far as I got. Terribly paced. A giant cliche. One dimensional characters. "Drek" is the only appropriate word for crap of this magnigtude.

273 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:18:45pm

re: #265 Floral Giraffe

Remind them that women can be as smart, or smarter than men.

SHE'S A WITCH! BURN HER!

274 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:19:45pm

re: #273 Slumbering Behemoth

SHE'S A WITCH! BURN HER!

Thank you kindly!

275 Varek Raith  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:19:52pm

re: #273 Slumbering Behemoth

SHE'S A WITCH! BURN HER!

ARE YOU CRAZY!?!? SHE'LL CAST SPELLS ON YOU!

276 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:20:27pm

re: #275 Varek Raith

ARE YOU CRAZY!?!? SHE'LL CAST SPELLS ON YOU!

Hee hee, do NOT tell him to check under his pillow tonight.

277 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:20:27pm

re: #273 Slumbering Behemoth

SHE'S A WITCH! BURN HER!

BUILD A BRIDGE OUT OF HER!

278 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:20:44pm

re: #275 Varek Raith

ARE YOU CRAZY!?!? SHE'LL CAST SPELLS ON YOU!

She turned me into a newt!

279 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:21:10pm

re: #278 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
but you look better now...

280 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:21:23pm

re: #278 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

She turned me into a newt!

But, you got better!

281 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:21:26pm

re: #275 Varek Raith

Too late, she's already turned me into a newt.

/What? I got better...

282 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:21:31pm

OK I never did get those questions answered.. So I have some for our friends who keep reading here!

OK for my other dedicated fans:

Just some questions...

Did you guys have a thread blaming the protesters for the Kent State shootings (on the anniversary) because you all just love the idea of shooting unarmed hippies? Geeze, even I only was saying that armed teabaggers, who were trying to overthrow America, should only be fired on if they fired their weapons first (that's what doing something stupid with those guns meant)? Do you see the difference?

NB they did post that?

Does Eliana or Buzzy realize that Torah admonishes us to stay away from rashas?

Is it true that Rodan became sociopathic and started preaching genocide because he has yet to accept that he enjoys blowing homeless men behind dumpsters? Would he be happier if he could just admit that his deepest fantasy is having a HUGE Muslim man give it to him? Is this why he drinks so much?

Did Snork become so ragingly anti-science because doing math causes his hemorrhoids to bleed? How is it possible for someone with a sixth grade understanding of math to be an engineer? Does building stuff with Legos count somewhere?

Does talking about guns and marines and how you are related to marines or own guns make anyone actually manly or does it merely indicate weak betas wishing they were manly?

Was Bunk x released too early?

Is it true that Former Corpsman posts less because he has discovered that he can lick his own nipples? How does he get the hair out of his teeth? Does he shave now?

Wouldn't goddess be a happier and better adjusted person if she thought that Jesus has no problem with women having orgasms?

Does Iron Fist realize that getting "his seed" on his guns when he fondles them too much might damage the actions?

Why has TFK not been hospitalized yet?

283 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:22:22pm

re: #281 Slumbering Behemoth

Too late, she's already turned me into a newt.

/What? I got better...

3 seconds! HAH!

284 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:22:41pm

re: #271 Floral Giraffe

They would SO enjoy a female poseur as a dominatrix, in black vinyl, to spice up their bed times. They just dream about it now!

OMG you know it! The thing is, I can't imagine any self respecting Dominatrix wanting them for a pet.

285 PAUL_MACDONALD  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:22:49pm

re: #281 Slumbering Behemoth

Too late, she's already turned me into a newt.

/What? I got better...

The real question is "how much does she weigh?"

286 Dark_Falcon  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:23:16pm

re: #277 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

BUILD A BRIDGE OUT OF HER!

SHE BELONGS ON THE PREVIOUS THREAD, SINCE SHE IS LIGHTER THAN A DUCK!!1

287 Nimed  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:23:48pm

re: #165 Pete(Detroit)

And sorry all, thanks much for a Very Lively time, but alarm rings early, and it's late... hate to bomb and run, but I gotta GO...

"Bomb" really encapsulates it. I feel our friend Pete deserves a proper stage exit

288 freetoken  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:23:56pm

Seems the Tea Partiers don't cotton to Mr. Smith's belief that 3rd generation estate taxes are ok.

After explaining to Ms. Fair Tax that a multi-generational estate tax is necessary, exempting the first generation (that is, your child shouldn't pay on inheriting something you worked for), some guy goes postal on Mr. Smith. Catch it starting around :50 :

I'm really loving this demonstration of the Tea Partiers not actually hearing what Mr. Smith is saying... they just need to vent.

289 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:25:08pm

re: #284 LudwigVanQuixote

OMG you know it! The thing is, I can't imagine any self respecting Dominatrix wanting them for a pet.

Nonsense, a good dominatrix has a dungeon FULL of waiting slaves.
So she can pick and choose. It's a mood thing.

290 Nimed  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:25:38pm

re: #282 LudwigVanQuixote

OK I never did get those questions answered.. So I have some for our friends who keep reading here!

OK for my other dedicated fans:

Just some questions...

Did you guys have a thread blaming the protesters for the Kent State shootings (on the anniversary) because you all just love the idea of shooting unarmed hippies? Geeze, even I only was saying that armed teabaggers, who were trying to overthrow America, should only be fired on if they fired their weapons first (that's what doing something stupid with those guns meant)? Do you see the difference?

NB they did post that?

Does Eliana or Buzzy realize that Torah admonishes us to stay away from rashas?

Is it true that Rodan became sociopathic and started preaching genocide because he has yet to accept that he enjoys blowing homeless men behind dumpsters? Would he be happier if he could just admit that his deepest fantasy is having a HUGE Muslim man give it to him? Is this why he drinks so much?

Did Snork become so ragingly anti-science because doing math causes his hemorrhoids to bleed? How is it possible for someone with a sixth grade understanding of math to be an engineer? Does building stuff with Legos count somewhere?

Does talking about guns and marines and how you are related to marines or own guns make anyone actually manly or does it merely indicate weak betas wishing they were manly?

Was Bunk x released too early?

Is it true that Former Corpsman posts less because he has discovered that he can lick his own nipples? How does he get the hair out of his teeth? Does he shave now?

Wouldn't goddess be a happier and better adjusted person if she thought that Jesus has no problem with women having orgasms?

Does Iron Fist realize that getting "his seed" on his guns when he fondles them too much might damage the actions?

Why has TFK not been hospitalized yet?

Ok, who the hell are those guys? I feel I've missed out.

291 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:26:46pm

re: #282 LudwigVanQuixote

Does talking about guns and marines and how you are related to marines or own guns make anyone actually manly or does it merely indicate weak betas wishing they were manly?

Only poseurs and posturing fools openly discuss such possessions. The dumbest and loosest of lips. Not even my closest, must trusted friends are privy to the kinds ordinance I posses.

Which, for the record, is none at all.

292 Jadespring  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:27:03pm

Holy bizzare thread batman!

Heyo everyone. :)

293 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:27:36pm

re: #287 Nimed

"Bomb" really encapsulates it. I feel our friend Pete deserves a proper stage exit


[Video]

Sadly I can't find the kind of exit he deserves in my own opinion which is that scene from Futurearma where Doctor Zoidberg is doing stand up... one of those hooks comes out from him so he snaps it with his claws, and then another bonks him on the head and drags him off....

294 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:28:26pm

re: #289 Floral Giraffe

Nonsense, a good dominatrix has a dungeon FULL of waiting slaves.
So she can pick and choose. It's a mood thing.

Do you really think they would ever be in the mood for a nice romantic evening of Bunk X crying because he wet himself again after Rodan threw up?. I would think she would she choose quality?

295 Reginald Perrin  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:28:30pm

re: #284 LudwigVanQuixote

OMG you know it! The thing is, I can't imagine any self respecting Dominatrix wanting them for a pet.

When Rodan used to troll at another blog and get his a$$ kicked, a few of the bloggers theorized that his was a masochist in need of the huliliation and abuse, but was to cheap to pay a professional dom(me), so he got it there for free

296 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:28:33pm

re: #290 Nimed

Ok, who the hell are those guys? I feel I've missed out.

There are people on the internets who hang on every word that comes from Ludwig's mouth. They're almost like Jonas Bros. fans.

297 Dark_Falcon  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:28:35pm

re: #288 freetoken

Seems the Tea Partiers don't cotton to Mr. Smith's belief that 3rd generation estate taxes are ok.

After explaining to Ms. Fair Tax that a multi-generational estate tax is necessary, exempting the first generation (that is, your child shouldn't pay on inheriting something you worked for), some guy goes postal on Mr. Smith. Catch it starting around :50 :


[Video]I'm really loving this demonstration of the Tea Partiers not actually hearing what Mr. Smith is saying... they just need to vent.

That, and the fact that the man in question takes any disagreement as a sign of hostility. Honest disagreement does not exist for him: Those for agree with him are "Real Conservatives", all others are contemptible "RINOs" and "Progs".

298 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:29:28pm

All this dominatrix talk is getting me hot and bothered.

299 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:29:29pm

re: #297 Dark_Falcon

That, and the fact that the man in question takes any disagreement as a sign of hostility. Honest disagreement does not exist for him: Those for agree with him are "Real Conservatives", all others are contemptible "RINOs" and "Progs".

PROGZ IZ MADE FAH TAXIN' AN SPENDN'

300 Dark_Falcon  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:30:17pm

re: #290 Nimed

Ok, who the hell are those guys? I feel I've missed out.

People who used to post here who have since been banned.

301 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:30:30pm

re: #297 Dark_Falcon

Progs.

302 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:31:18pm

re: #295 Reginald Perrin

cue "Argument Clinic"...

303 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:31:24pm

re: #291 Slumbering Behemoth

Only poseurs and posturing fools openly discuss such possessions. The dumbest and loosest of lips. Not even my closest, must trusted friends are privy to the kinds ordinance I posses.

Which, for the record, is none at all.

Exactly. My favorite posts from them are of the "If I met you Ludwank... you would go fetal and run from me... My brother is a Marine!" variety.

If I, or any lizard, met them we would laugh in their faces and kiss our lizard love mate and go do something better.

304 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:32:00pm

re: #295 Reginald Perrin

When Rodan used to troll at another blog and get his a$$ kicked, a few of the bloggers theorized that his was a masochist in need of the huliliation and abuse, but was to cheap to pay a professional dom(me), so he got it there for free

You know he really does strike me as the type who would go for CBT.

305 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:32:12pm

re: #297 Dark_Falcon

That, and the fact that the man in question takes any disagreement as a sign of hostility. Honest disagreement does not exist for him: Those for agree with him are "Real Conservatives", all others are contemptible "RINOs" and "Progs".

Nasty dirty tricksy Progs! GOLLUM! GOLLUM!

306 blueraven  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:32:34pm

re: #133 Pete(Detroit)

Sorry, but do you seriously think there is not 10% pure WASTE involved here?
Martin Gross has gone over the books and suggested we could cut 25% from the gov't funding And Never Miss It for nearly 20 years.
Agreed, medicare and SSoc are "golden cows" for now - SSoc will see drastic cuts a/o 'means testing' well before I'm "eligible"
Yes, keeping us safe at home is one of the 'Constitutional' duties of the Fed, but funding the additional purchase of planes / vehicles / armament that the Pentagon has specifically said they don't want, just because the plants that make 'em are in your district, in MY mind could be cut.
Just sayin'..

So I take it you won't be voting republican, since they are against cutting any waste from the Medicare program and want to keep over paying for Medicare Advantage subsidies.

Just where were the tea party people when the congress passed the Medicare part D? Where were you while wall street was robbing us with govt help?

Where were you when the rich got huge tax cuts even in the face of two wars?

Give me a fucking break.

307 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:32:59pm

re: #298 JasonA
well thank you for sharing!

308 freetoken  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:33:27pm

re: #297 Dark_Falcon

Yeah... Mr. Rage Boy shouts to Mr. Smith "You're the problem", when Mr. Smith has not even been in congress writing the tax laws.

Remember, Mr. Smith already mentioned at the beginning of his little sit down that he left the GOP, of which he was a committee member, because in his opinion the GOP was no longer responsibly governing.

The Tea Partiers just don't grok why Mr. Smith would want to tax multi-generational estates. Apparently the Tea Partiers are unaware of the European history of the accumulation of wealth in the hands of certain families, and how the landed gentry really did treat the serfs, who the Tea Partiers apparently want to emulate.

Clearly Smith is a TINO...

309 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:33:46pm

re: #307 Querent

well thank you for sharing!

Oh. I guess we aren't that close-knit a community. :P

310 Nimed  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:34:07pm

re: #296 JasonA

re: #300 Dark_Falcon

Thanks.

311 Reginald Perrin  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:34:33pm

re: #304 LudwigVanQuixote

You know he really does strike me as the type who would go for CBT.

I doubt if he has any balls to torture.

312 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:35:03pm

re: #309 JasonA

Oh. I guess we aren't that close-knit a community. :P

we have our snags and ravellings. but my rule is, you make me laugh, you get an upding.

And you have a knack for making me laugh -- keep up the good work.

313 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:35:14pm

re: #308 freetoken

Yeah... Mr. Rage Boy shouts to Mr. Smith "You're the problem", when Mr. Smith has not even been in congress writing the tax laws.

Remember, Mr. Smith already mentioned at the beginning of his little sit down that he left the GOP, of which he was a committee member, because in his opinion the GOP was no longer responsibly governing.

The Tea Partiers just don't grok why Mr. Smith would want to tax multi-generational estates. Apparently the Tea Partiers are unaware of the European history of the accumulation of wealth in the hands of certain families, and how the landed gentry really did treat the serfs, who the Tea Partiers apparently want to emulate.

Clearly Smith is a TINO...

Because Mr. Adams most people would rather protect the rights of the wealthy out of the futile hope that some day they may themselves be among them, than face the reality of being poor!

(Quoted from 1776 to the best of my memory)

314 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:35:40pm

re: #298 JasonA

All this dominatrix talk is getting me hot and bothered.

Lucy Lawless perhaps?

315 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:36:12pm

re: #310 Nimed

re: #300 Dark_Falcon

Thanks.

I imagine them reading LGF every night, staring at the screen, and saying the following:

316 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:36:20pm

re: #308 freetoken

Yeah... Mr. Rage Boy shouts to Mr. Smith "You're the problem", when Mr. Smith has not even been in congress writing the tax laws.

Remember, Mr. Smith already mentioned at the beginning of his little sit down that he left the GOP, of which he was a committee member, because in his opinion the GOP was no longer responsibly governing.

The Tea Partiers just don't grok why Mr. Smith would want to tax multi-generational estates. Apparently the Tea Partiers are unaware of the European history of the accumulation of wealth in the hands of certain families, and how the landed gentry really did treat the serfs, who the Tea Partiers apparently want to emulate.

Clearly Smith is a TINO...

not sure if my bro said it or one of his friends did:

'scratch a libertarian and you'll find someone who's pining for the return of the aristocracy - because he thinks he'd be one.'

317 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:36:32pm

re: #312 Querent

I tend to get that a lot.

318 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:36:34pm

re: #290 Nimed

Ok, who the hell are those guys? I feel I've missed out.

They are a bunch of total losers who used to post here before Charles got fed up with the endless Beavis and Butthead like stupidity of them - and their racism, fascism, homophobia and anti-science.

Since then they do nothing but stalk the blog and and hang out at their own cesspool blog whining about how they were unfairly kicked out for being genocide preaching asswipes or other such scummy things and plotting revenge in self aggrandizing fantasies.

They are in general, fat, white, vile, misogynistic, homophobic, aging and very stupid.

319 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:37:33pm

re: #313 jamesfirecat

Because Mr. Adams most people would rather protect the rights of the wealthy out of the futile hope that some day they may themselves be among them, than face the reality of being poor!

(Quoted from 1776 to the best of my memory)

if you tax the rich to feed the poor, until there are no rich no more...

...then who's going to be left to help the poor??

(they never mention that part of it, do they...)

320 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:37:40pm

re: #314 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Lucy Lawless perhaps?

Nope, she has no weapons in her hands.

321 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:38:05pm

re: #298 JasonA

All this dominatrix talk is getting me hot and bothered.

And you see, it's cool to be cool with that here.

I personally am of the variety that would prefer to plan and give rather than receive.

322 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:38:16pm

re: #318 LudwigVanQuixote

They are a bunch of total losers who used to post here before Charles got fed up with the endless Beavis and Butthead like stupidity of them - and their racism, fascism, homophobia and anti-science.

Since then they do nothing but stalk the blog and and hang out at their own cesspool blog whining about how they were unfairly kicked out for being genocide preaching asswipes or other such scummy things and plotting revenge in self aggrandizing fantasies.

They are in general, fat, white, vile, misogynistic, homophobic, aging and very stupid.

To be fair, though, I don't know of any lizards who can fellate themselves. That's a skill we sadly lack...

323 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:39:04pm

re: #319 Querent

if you tax the rich to feed the poor, until there are no rich no more...

...then who's going to be left to help the poor??

(they never mention that part of it, do they...)

Dude it's an estate tax we're talking about here....

Those people did nothing to earn that money so why should they get to keep all of it?

324 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:39:12pm

re: #321 LudwigVanQuixote

And you see, it's cool to be cool with that here.

I personally am of the variety that would prefer to plan and give rather than receive.

*whack*

LOL!

325 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:39:23pm

Test.

326 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:39:32pm

re: #322 JasonA

To be fair, though, I don't know of any lizards who can fellate themselves. That's a skill we sadly lack...

Five more Yoga classes....

327 Mark Pennington  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:39:50pm

re: #311 Reginald Perrin

I doubt if he has any balls to torture.

I'll bet he wears a leather codpiece that matches his doublet. Inside is a squeaky toy.


I have no idea what that means. I've had a few beers.

328 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:40:05pm

re: #324 Floral Giraffe

*whack*

LOL!

Well I am taken, but otherwise you know it ;)

329 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:40:07pm

re: #314 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Lucy Lawless perhaps?

Oh my god, you should have seen her in Spartacus. It was the best role of her life.

330 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:40:30pm

re: #322 JasonA

To be fair, though, I don't know of any lizards who can fellate themselves. That's a skill we sadly lack...

Perhaps that is why Rodan keeps throwing up so much?

331 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:40:40pm

re: #320 Floral Giraffe

Nope, she has no weapons in her hands.

Wot?!?! Here weapons are her hands. And her feet. Mmm... especially her feet.
/

332 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:40:48pm

re: #325 Slumbering Behemoth

Pass!

333 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:41:37pm

re: #323 jamesfirecat

if their grandparents worked hard enough to be able to leave something for them, why shouldn't they?

(looks at clock, feels eyes cross, remembers the LGF rule about debating on lack of sleep...)

334 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:41:51pm

re: #331 Slumbering Behemoth

Wot?!?! Here weapons are her hands. And her feet. Mmm... especially her feet.
/

Not her feet, dude! Her toes...

335 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:42:29pm

re: #333 Querent

if their grandparents worked hard enough to be able to leave something for them, why shouldn't they?

(looks at clock, feels eyes cross, remembers the LGF rule about debating on lack of sleep...)

Decides to ignore it, because Q's having fun!

336 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:42:56pm

re: #333 Querent

if their grandparents worked hard enough to be able to leave something for them, why shouldn't they?

(looks at clock, feels eyes cross, remembers the LGF rule about debating on lack of sleep...)

I think that 90% of what they saved up still counts as quite a bit of "something" for them to leave their children.

That said once again I am very much on lack of sleep and I lack the good data to make this argument, lets save it for when Charles brings it up tommorow hopefully...

337 Reginald Perrin  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:43:03pm

re: #330 LudwigVanQuixote

Perhaps that is why Rodan keeps throwing up so much?

I learned something today.

I always thought it was because he drank too much.

338 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:44:20pm

re: #333 Querent

if their grandparents worked hard enough to be able to leave something for them, why shouldn't they?

(looks at clock, feels eyes cross, remembers the LGF rule about debating on lack of sleep...)

I'm not disagreeing with you per se, but remember the golden rule: he who has the gold makes the rules. Our system of inheritance puts the gold in the hands of people who will then make many decisions that affect all of our lives.

Not saying I want to do away with the concept entirely, but that's the way it is.

339 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:44:24pm

re: #332 Floral Giraffe

Pass!

Fail. It didn't stick. I will try, try again.

340 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:44:32pm

re: #337 Reginald Perrin

I learned something today.

I always thought it was because he drank too much.

Do a google on the name.. you will find a gay porn star - who insists he's really straight (hmmmm?!?!?) who is famous for that talent!

341 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:44:42pm

re: #337 Reginald Perrin

LOTS of interesting things to learn here.
Even, of you didn't want to know them!
*waves*

342 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:45:01pm

re: #337 Reginald Perrin

I learned something today.

I always thought it was because he drank too much.

I was much better off before i learned that, truth be told.

343 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:45:41pm

re: #335 Floral Giraffe
you can ignore that rule -- i know i need to get to sleep....

(would rather encourage family that inherits gaboons of $$$ to start foundation and put that money to work in community, rather than have it go through govt. to who-knows-what. Especially if we're talking really huge gaboons of $$$. Then think of it as one less thing govt. needs to spend on. I'm looking at you, movie stars -- instead of bitching about how we're trashing the planet, start investing all those movie grosses in research!)

344 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:46:04pm

re: #336 jamesfirecat
i agree.

345 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:46:16pm

Bunch of perverts with their toe and feet perversions, sheesh.

346 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:47:06pm

re: #340 LudwigVanQuixote

Pretty much all you need to know.

347 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:47:24pm

re: #345 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Bunch of perverts with their toe and feet perversions, sheesh.

Meh. There are more bizarre fetishes out there.

348 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:47:45pm

re: #343 Querent

you can ignore that rule -- i know i need to get to sleep...

(would rather encourage family that inherits gaboons of $$$ to start foundation and put that money to work in community, rather than have it go through govt. to who-knows-what. Especially if we're talking really huge gaboons of $$$. Then think of it as one less thing govt. needs to spend on. I'm looking at you, movie stars -- instead of bitching about how we're trashing the planet, start investing all those movie grosses in research!)

I hate to do this after you said that you agree with me but I feel it needs to be said...

It's impractical to ask that one person, even a movie star back roll and entire R&D department.

That really is the kind of thing you need Government money pooled together from all of us to be able to get done...

349 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:47:48pm

re: #347 JasonA

Meh. There are more bizarre fetishes out there.

Or so I've heard.

350 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:47:50pm

re: #347 JasonA

Meh. There are more bizarre fetishes out there.


www dot do-not-go-there dot com

351 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:47:57pm

re: #333 Querent

if their grandparents worked hard enough to be able to leave something for them, why shouldn't they?

(looks at clock, feels eyes cross, remembers the LGF rule about debating on lack of sleep...)

Do not get me started on inheritances. Or, proposition 13. Especially if Olson is in the house. We've been around on Prop. 13 a few times. We're both still bleeding.

But, damnit, I'm right!
//kinda

352 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:48:19pm

re: #347 JasonA

Meh. There are more bizarre fetishes out there.

Oh, I know.

353 Nimed  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:48:35pm

re: #333 Querent

if their grandparents worked hard enough to be able to leave something for them, why shouldn't they?

(looks at clock, feels eyes cross, remembers the LGF rule about debating on lack of sleep...)

Oh, the fairness of inheritance taxes. Bait me again some other time. We have different positions on this, but my experience is that you need at least an hour for this discussion.

354 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:48:43pm

re: #345 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Bunch of perverts with their toe and feet perversions, sheesh.

Yeah, you & FBV and your "bags of love" was it?

355 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:49:18pm

re: #348 jamesfirecat

I hate to do this after you said that you agree with me but I feel it needs to be said...

It's impractical to ask that one person, even a movie star back roll and entire R&D department.

That really is the kind of thing you need Government money pooled together from all of us to be able to get done...

that is true.

i'm not asking them to bankroll the entire thing -- i'm just asking them to put their money where their mouths are.

(grumbly old lizard heads back to corner to gnaw on bones and shreds of gamy-buttock-jerky... i just realized, i too registered in 2004...)

356 Reginald Perrin  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:49:51pm

re: #340 LudwigVanQuixote

Do a google on the name.. you will find a gay porn star - who insists he's really straight (hmmm?!?!?) who is famous for that talent!

When he started posting at LGF he used the name Trajan, in honor of the first openly gay Roman emperor.

Coincidence?

357 sagehen  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:50:29pm

re: #288 freetoken

Seems the Tea Partiers don't cotton to Mr. Smith's belief that 3rd generation estate taxes are ok.


The way it was explained to me is that any revenue the state receives from inheritance taxes is a nice bonus, but that isn't the point of it.

It's that we don't want the country to develop a hereditary aristocracy -- that the Vanderbilt and Rockefeller descendents, yea unto the 7th generation, should not be guaranteed great wealth unless they each, in their own turn, do something to replenish it.

So each generation we exempt enough for one middle-class lifetime so people know their children won't ever starve, but then we need to take half the rest.

"A society's wealth, like its water, needs to circulate. Both are unhealthy when allowed to stagnate."

358 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:50:31pm

re: #355 Querent

that is true.

i'm not asking them to bankroll the entire thing -- i'm just asking them to put their money where their mouths are.

(grumbly old lizard heads back to corner to gnaw on bones and shreds of gamy-buttock-jerky... i just realized, i too registered in 2004...)

Do not ask for whome the ban hammer drops, it drops for thee!

359 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:50:41pm

OMG This just posted at the villiage by a little teacake!

Not that I was ever good at even basic math, but over the years it seems my brain has lost all ability to grasp even really basic numbers. Very embarrassing. But I really can’t figure this out, is 1% of 1000 10? I’m asking because I’m wondering if its a good idea to transfer a balance to a credit card that charges 4% fee. So, if I have $3000 is that a $30 charge?

But remember, they can prove that smart grids aren't real and that AGW science is a hoax!

Almost as good as...

Snork,

I had no idea I was in such impressive company. Read it through and learned much. Congratulations on the recognition and I hope this puts to rest where the “smart” people reside. Read it and weep Charlie.

I have a simple physics question about Alternating current that I’m not sure I fully understand. I got an ‘A’ in the class indicating I understood – as I will prove, that was a lie.

At the risk of humiliating myself, about sine waves and voltage (peak voltage). Without getting too technical, why is when I measure my house current with a volt meter, it remains at a constant 110-115 volts?

Looking at the mathematical formulas considering the root mean square, why is that the AC voltage doesn’t fluctuate to any measure? What am I not understanding?

Umm you are missing the definition of RMS...

Remember, these people know the real science!

360 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:50:59pm

re: #346 Slumbering Behemoth

Pretty much all you need to know.

F'n brilliant!

361 PAUL_MACDONALD  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:51:05pm
362 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:51:14pm

re: #356 Reginald Perrin

When he started posting at LGF he used the name Trajan, in honor of the first openly gay Roman emperor.

Coincidence?

Wasn't Hadrian gay, too? I remember something about him touring Egypt with a boy along with him or something...

363 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:51:37pm

re: #354 Floral Giraffe

Yeah, you & FBV and your "bags of love" was it?

Have I mentioned lately that I'm immense and immortal?

364 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:52:53pm

re: #353 Nimed

Oh, the fairness of inheritance taxes. Bait me again some other time. We have different positions on this, but my experience is that you need at least an hour for this discussion.

Terribly sorry, Nimed, but i was NOT trying to bait anybody.

(this is the problem with communicating with people whose faces and voices are obscured by the Internet -- you can't see them wink or hear their tone of voice.)

365 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:52:56pm

re: #345 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Bunch of perverts with their toe and feet perversions, sheesh.

Right. And if Ms. Lawless told you it would put her "over the top" if you would just suck on her toes, you'd kick her out of bed for being a pervert?

I hope you would, and I hope you would point her in my direction. I would put my mouth on parts of her she didn't even know she owned.
/TMI?

366 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:53:03pm

re: #361 PAUL_MACDONALD

Ah, found it!

Atlas Shrugged in 1,000 words

This might just be how late a night it was, but I could only make it through about 500 words of that....

367 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:53:06pm

re: #356 Reginald Perrin

When he started posting at LGF he used the name Trajan, in honor of the first openly gay Roman emperor.

Coincidence?

Well given the established tendency for those who bash gays the loudest to be the deepest in the closet - so much so that they have to drop hints... I doubt it is a coincidence.

Rodan, we are here for you! Come out of the closet! Unlike your other "friends" we don't think you will go to hell for it! We just think you will go to hell for being a hateful, drunken, sociopath who preaches genocide!

368 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:53:06pm

I thought FBV was into cake...?

369 Nimed  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:53:18pm

re: #361 PAUL_MACDONALD

Ah, found it!

Atlas Shrugged in 1,000 words

Good man! Gonna start right away.

370 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:53:20pm

re: #363 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Have I asked if you go by the name of Jabba on other planets?

371 freetoken  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:53:41pm

re: #313 jamesfirecat

Because Mr. Adams most people would rather protect the rights of the wealthy out of the futile hope that some day they may themselves be among them, than face the reality of being poor!

Indeed, that is even broached in that little sit-down, with one of the TPers essentially owning that idea.

[I think we just had a small quake]

The crowd there is the Beckian, 912er type of TPer, and they tend to not like the complex ideas of which Mr. Smith likes to speak.

This is real Glenn Beck fan-hood.

Mr. Smith himself is a strong protectionist, as he discusses in a different video posted on Youtube. Just as disastrous for the economy as a Fair Tax, IMO. But it gives one a sense of why Beck is so popular in that region - they are rather decimated, economically.

372 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:53:48pm

re: #362 JasonA

Wasn't Hadrian gay, too? I remember something about him touring Egypt with a boy along with him or something...

Heterosexuality didn't run in the Imperial family much.

373 tnguitarist  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:54:42pm

Good evening, all. I was trying to read all the comments and get the 'vibe' of tonight's thread, but I got bored at shot to the end.

374 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:54:55pm

re: #369 Nimed

Good man! Gonna start right away.

Atlas shrugged in much less than 100 words.

If you aren't rich, you are worthless. Those that are rich are rich because they are better than you, so you should move out of their way and stop whining about your supposed rights.

375 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:55:12pm

re: #372 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Heterosexuality didn't run in the Imperial family much.

Bet the 40K Imperium is full of manly masculine men.

376 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:55:15pm

re: #370 Floral Giraffe

Have I asked if you go by the name of Jabba on other planets?

No

377 PAUL_MACDONALD  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:55:22pm

re: #366 jamesfirecat

This might just be how late a night it was, but I could only make it through about 500 words of that...

Well, I'm going to capitalistically mock you for being a slacker.

378 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:55:58pm

re: #374 LudwigVanQuixote

Atlas shrugged in much less than 100 words.

If you aren't rich, you are worthless. Those that are rich are rich because they are better than you, so you should move out of their way and stop whining about your supposed rights.

I love how her Robin Hood robs ships full of aid for other countries and gives it back to the rich. Brilliant.

379 The Bunny  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:56:10pm

re: #373 tnguitarist

Good evening, all. I was trying to read all the comments and get the 'vibe' of tonight's thread, but I got bored at shot to the end.

It is a "shoot to the end" kind of night tonight!

380 tnguitarist  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:56:17pm

re: #373 tnguitarist

Good evening, all. I was trying to read all the comments and get the 'vibe' of tonight's thread, but I got bored at shot to the end.

at=and
ugh. It's dark.

381 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:56:20pm

re: #358 jamesfirecat

Do not ask for whom the ban hammer drops, it drops for thee!


it'd take a pod person replacing me to get me banned. i'm not one of those types that gets off on fighting with people.

(seriously. I'd have registered long before i actually did, but i never felt i had anything to contribute to the discussion and would get eaten alive. THEN they started talking about something i actually KNEW jack about.)

382 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:56:37pm

re: #380 tnguitarist

at=and
ugh. It's dark.

Things getting better down there?

383 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:56:41pm

re: #376 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

OK, so have you used the name Jabba on other planets?
You immense thing, you!

384 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:56:58pm

re: #375 JasonA

Bet the 40K Imperium is full of manly masculine men.

Don't worry I'm sure there's a gene seed for heterosexuality...

That or at least asexuality given that for all the drinking, feasting, and killing the Space Wolves do we never see them do any wenching...

385 Dark_Falcon  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:57:14pm

re: #346 Slumbering Behemoth

Pretty much all you need to know.

That's just wrong, but still funny.

386 Nimed  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:57:32pm

re: #364 Querent

Terribly sorry, Nimed, but i was NOT trying to bait anybody.

(this is the problem with communicating with people whose faces and voices are obscured by the Internet -- you can't see them wink or hear their tone of voice.)

Oh, ok. Sarcasm detector fail. Bu I meant bait in a good sense. There's a good debate in this issue.

387 sngnsgt  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:57:34pm

re: #301 Slumbering Behemoth

Progs.

RUSH upding! I already have my tickets for the Time Machine Tour. Moving Pictures in it's entirety. I can't f'n wait. Saturday August 14th @ The MGM Grand Hotel in Las Vegas, NV.

388 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:58:11pm

re: #383 Floral Giraffe

OK, so have you used the name Jabba on other planets?
You immense thing, you!

Well, allow me to be frank and earnest.

On some planets I'm Frank, on others, I'm Earnest.

389 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:58:12pm

re: #381 Querent

it'd take a pod person replacing me to get me banned. i'm not one of those types that gets off on fighting with people.

(seriously. I'd have registered long before i actually did, but i never felt i had anything to contribute to the discussion and would get eaten alive. THEN they started talking about something i actually KNEW jack about.)

I know I know, you seem like a good guy, I was just making a joke about how you mentioned you were surprised to realize you were a member of the class of 2004, many members of which have been banned in the last recent past....

390 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:58:35pm

re: #385 Dark_Falcon

That's just wrong, but still funny.

Hope your job hunt's going better than mine.

391 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:58:45pm

And the teacake repeats:

Where did everyone go? Trying to figure out my math problem? lol

Hehehe

But a shout out to possum... Possum you are the most beta of the beta, I told you, you don't rate.

Now Snork, why don't you post the posts that debunked you? You are after all always whining to debate me? It seems you are the chickenshit eh?

392 tnguitarist  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:59:30pm

re: #382 JasonA

Things getting better down there?

Still a mess but receding a little. This is such hilly land that there is going to be a lot of standing water left behind. I'm south of the worst of it, but I'm helping friends in the area clean up. One friend lost all his servers for his business.

393 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 10:59:47pm

re: #386 Nimed

that's why i routinely bake batches of /sarc tags for Lizard use. And still, we have some lizards with hair-trigger hot-buttons.

394 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:00:01pm

re: #391 LudwigVanQuixote


stop picking on defenseless womenfolk

395 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:00:07pm

re: #387 sngnsgt

I. Fucking. Hate. You.
/Not really. Enjoy the show, Lizard. Have all the fun you're entitled too, and then have some more. And then have some that would break a law or two.

396 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:00:29pm

re: #362 JasonA

Wasn't Hadrian gay, too? I remember something about him touring Egypt with a boy along with him or something...

The Roman standard for permitted was a hole and heartbeat... heartbeat was optional.

397 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:00:32pm

This inter-blog warfare is hard to follow at times.

Especially when the other side can't code an auto-update for the comments.

398 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:01:37pm

re: #384 jamesfirecat

Don't worry I'm sure there's a gene seed for heterosexuality...

That or at least asexuality given that for all the drinking, feasting, and killing the Space Wolves do we never see them do any wenching...

Most Space Wolves do that before they're taken, after that, training and dedication.

All bets are off for Chaos Marines though.

399 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:01:45pm

re: #389 jamesfirecat

i know you were making a joke. And still i figured i might as well clarify where i'm coming from (see hair-triggers and hot-buttons above)

i got my start posting on open threads, providing comic relief. (and at that time, LGF really needed comic relief!)

400 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:02:18pm

re: #394 SpaceJesus

stop picking on defenseless womenfolk

But, but, I really am a feminist. That means I treat utterly stupid and silly women just like I would treat utterly stupid and silly men. It also means that if a woman is really smart, I am not threatened and just as impressed with her brilliance as I would be impressed by a man's.

I don't subscribe to the "don't worry your pretty little head" attitude.

401 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:02:28pm

re: #392 tnguitarist

Still a mess but receding a little. This is such hilly land that there is going to be a lot of standing water left behind. I'm south of the worst of it, but I'm helping friends in the area clean up. One friend lost all his servers for his business.

Lemme tell you, I'm more disgusted with our media now than I've ever been before. An American city's underwater and it's lucky to get mentioned in the news. Disgraceful. I know the Not-a-bomber makes for flashy headlines but jeez.

402 Querent  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:03:09pm

re: #395 Slumbering Behemoth

I. Fucking. Hate. You.
/Not really. Enjoy the show, Lizard. Have all the fun you're entitled too, and then have some more. And then have some that would break a law or two.

i'm going to see them too. treated myself to even closer seats than last time, even. (hell, when i pay that much to see one of my favorite bands, i expect to SEE the band!)

403 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:03:42pm

re: #400 LudwigVanQuixote

But, but, I really am a feminist. That means I treat utterly stupid and silly women just like I would treat utterly stupid and silly men. It also means that if a woman is really smart, I am not threatened and just as impressed with her brilliance as I would be impressed by a man's.

I don't subscribe to the "don't worry your pretty little head" attitude.

Man Talk

404 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:04:00pm

From my LGF recommended book
"the flowers bloomed to make her smile"
I'm liking this!

405 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:04:48pm

re: #400 LudwigVanQuixote

But, but, I really am a feminist. That means I treat utterly stupid and silly women just like I would treat utterly stupid and silly men. It also means that if a woman is really smart, I am not threatened and just as impressed with her brilliance as I would be impressed by a man's.

I don't subscribe to the "don't worry your pretty little head" attitude.


lord possum of chettoshire to the rescue of his fair damsel, lady teacake palinsland.

406 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:05:01pm

re: #404 Floral Giraffe

From my LGF recommended book
"the flowers bloomed to make her smile"
I'm liking this!

NO FG please, if you become an Aes Sedi, we will never see you again and we love your commando butt!

407 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:05:11pm

re: #398 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Most Space Wolves do that before they're taken, after that, training and dedication.

All bets are off for Chaos Marines though.

Ehh if they're devoted to Slanesh then its "hole and a heartbeat, heartbeat optional" as mentioned above. (Seriously I bet at least one noise marine has died trying to f*** a Baneblade... so very many holes....)

If they're devoted to Nurgal they get all the love from Papa Nurgal they could possibly want.

If they're devoted to Khain then they're more likely to get it up dulling to the death with someone.

If they're devoted to Teezenech (sp) then they'll do whatever it takes to get their plans moving.

Like I said it'd be nice to see the space wolves be able to do some wenching (I know they're sterile but that's not the same thing as impotent) if it weren't for the entire man of steel woman of kleenex thing...

408 The Bunny  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:05:14pm

re: #397 JasonA

This inter-blog warfare is hard to follow at times.

Especially when the other side can't code an auto-update for the comments.

Like most others here I have no clue where this other blog is! It is like only hearing half a joke and missing the punchline but still feeling you have to laugh.

409 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:05:16pm

re: #399 Querent

i know you were making a joke. And still i figured i might as well clarify where i'm coming from (see hair-triggers and hot-buttons above)

i got my start posting on open threads, providing comic relief. (and at that time, LGF really needed comic relief!)

You know, there's this other site not too far from here that really needs to lighten up...

410 freetoken  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:06:14pm

Neat little animated GIF, showing water vapor in the Norther Hemisphere, one can clearly see the polar circulation, the low pressure systems traipsing around the NH, the arid zones, and then the band of storms near the equator going (seemingly) the other way:

[Link: icons-ecast.wunderground.com...]

411 tnguitarist  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:06:27pm

re: #401 JasonA

Lemme tell you, I'm more disgusted with our media now than I've ever been before. An American city's underwater and it's lucky to get mentioned in the news. Disgraceful. I know the Not-a-bomber makes for flashy headlines but jeez.

It has been surreal, really. Years ago ('97, I think) we had an ice storm that nailed most of the state. It got more national coverage than this flood and was just a huge inconvenience.

412 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:06:30pm

re: #406 LudwigVanQuixote

NO FG please, if you become an Aes Sedi, we will never see you again and we love your commando butt!

I KNEW I was going to regret that post!
Still, I wanna be an Aes Sedi at this point.
They can go commando too!

Wags is shamelessly.

413 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:06:37pm

re: #405 SpaceJesus

lord possum of chettoshire to the rescue of his fair damsel, lady teacake palinsland.

And Snorkles who always whines that he would always defeat me head to head has yet to acknowledge the posts that completely debunked his BS...

Why is that?

It's not like I didn't prove him to be utterly full of shit and he can't admit that. I know they read it. They read here all the time.

It's on the last thread.

414 sngnsgt  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:07:00pm

re: #402 Querent

Moving Pictures in it's entirety, I can't miss this! I paid a fortune for good seats and I live in Vegas so it's all good.

415 Dark_Falcon  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:07:23pm

re: #390 JasonA

Hope your job hunt's going better than mine.

It goes well, but tomorrow is going to be a hard day. I scheduled two interviews and then something else came up that has me boxed in on time. I'll figure out a way to get things done, but it'll be a challenge.

416 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:07:29pm

why does everyone over there have avatars of dogs and wolves and talk about horse books?

...furries?

417 engineer cat  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:07:35pm

re: late night roman emperors

being gay or not gay was a different proposition in roman times. just about anything a free male did to a slave, male or female, was perfectly respectable - unless the free male was in the passive role during sex

i recommend suetonius, a virtual national enquirer of the first roman emperors. to hear him tell it, tiberius trained froggy little slave boys to hold their breath long enough to be able to give him underwater blow jobs while he was doing laps in his pool in capri

418 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:07:53pm

re: #408 The Bunny

Like most others here I have no clue where this other blog is! It is like only hearing half a joke and missing the punchline but still feeling you have to laugh.

I think it has the word "mock" in there somewhere...
Starts with "Blah"...

419 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:08:52pm
420 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:09:04pm

re: #408 The Bunny

Like most others here I have no clue where this other blog is! It is like only hearing half a joke and missing the punchline but still feeling you have to laugh.

OK, for that I am sorry. There is some history here. The people there have actually made death threats to certain posters here whose identities they discovered in real life. Espescially Charles (though Rodan has promised that his Columbian Uncle would get me, and another one threatened me with his marine brother...)

The point is, that I can't tell you who they are and point you there from here.

421 sagehen  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:09:05pm

re: #401 JasonA

Lemme tell you, I'm more disgusted with our media now than I've ever been before. An American city's underwater and it's lucky to get mentioned in the news. Disgraceful. I know the Not-a-bomber makes for flashy headlines but jeez.

It'd be getting more attention if the entire Gulf wasn't turning flammable, possibly permanently...

422 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:09:29pm

re: #419 Slumbering Behemoth

Fuckin' magnets.

Where'd this "fuckin' magnets" meme start?

423 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:10:15pm

re: #421 sagehen

It'd be getting more attention if the entire Gulf wasn't turning flammable, possibly permanently...

Yeah, but Times Square pushed even that aside.

424 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:11:04pm

re: #407 jamesfirecat

Ehh if they're devoted to Slanesh then its "hole and a heartbeat, heartbeat optional" as mentioned above. (Seriously I bet at least one noise marine has died trying to f*** a Baneblade... so very many holes...)

If they're devoted to Nurgal they get all the love from Papa Nurgal they could possibly want.

If they're devoted to Khain then they're more likely to get it up dulling to the death with someone.

If they're devoted to Teezenech (sp) then they'll do whatever it takes to get their plans moving.

Like I said it'd be nice to see the space wolves be able to do some wenching (I know they're sterile but that's not the same thing as impotent) if it weren't for the entire man of steel woman of kleenex thing...

Thats why so many Chapters take recruits starting at 12-13, catch em before raging hormones kick in.

And its Khorne

425 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:11:09pm

is teacake actually drew barrymore

426 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:11:09pm

re: #419 Slumbering Behemoth

Fuckin' magnets.

That is awesome!

427 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:11:24pm

re: #422 JasonA

Where'd this "fuckin' magnets" meme start?

You're fucking with me, right?

Know Your Meme

428 tnguitarist  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:11:31pm

Whatever Charles ends up calling it, I hope he gets the "diary" section up and running. I was reading upthread about people losing their minds during the Clinton administration just as bad as they are now. I've got a great story to tell about a former employer of mine that lost his mind when Clinton was running.

429 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:11:46pm

re: #416 SpaceJesus

why does everyone over there have avatars of dogs and wolves and talk about horse books?

...furries?

They'd like to get it on with a furry?
Or just do it "animal style"!

430 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:11:55pm

re: #404 Floral Giraffe

From my LGF recommended book
"the flowers bloomed to make her smile"
I'm liking this!

Which book?

431 Dark_Falcon  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:11:59pm

re: #416 SpaceJesus

why does everyone over there have avatars of dogs and wolves and talk about horse books?

...furries?

No, WUB is still one of us. But wolves do attack horses.

432 tnguitarist  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:12:50pm

re: #421 sagehen

It'd be getting more attention if the entire Gulf wasn't turning flammable, possibly permanently...

It is terrible, but people have lost their lives here. You would think that was newsworthy.

433 The Bunny  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:12:59pm

re: #420 LudwigVanQuixoteOh oh... No problem!

Thanks for explaining things though. I am happy to just be content with the recent history of this place though, thread by thread.

Thanks.

434 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:13:04pm

re: #429 Floral Giraffe

They'd like to get it on with a furry?
Or just do it "animal style"!

OK so they would be into dog and pony play with a lot of CBT...

Check...

435 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:13:05pm

re: #424 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Thats why so many Chapters take recruits starting at 12-13, catch em before raging hormones kick in.

And its Khorne

Didn't feel like spending time to check.

All I can say at the moment is that there's probably a gene seed for asexuality, either that or the "battle brothers" are taking some lessons from the Spartans if you know what I mean.

I get that there's a mega huge epic war going on, but that never stopped Caphias Cain from finding time to get laid weather with a girl with a prehensile tail, an inquisitor or a member of the imperial navy!

436 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:13:19pm

re: #426 LudwigVanQuixote

It takes it's digs at religion near the end, but it is still funny all around.

437 sngnsgt  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:13:41pm

re: #402 Querent

I paid too much for mine too. This is a once in a lifetime chance and I don't expect the boys to be touring much more these days.

438 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:13:43pm

re: #433 The Bunny

Oh oh... No problem!

Thanks for explaining things though. I am happy to just be content with the recent history of this place though, thread by thread.

Thanks.

I promise we don't always talk about them. I think a lot of people are just feeling a little fed up of late.

439 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:14:11pm

re: #436 Slumbering Behemoth

It takes it's digs at religion near the end, but it is still funny all around.

Taking digs at misused religion is ok.

440 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:14:28pm

re: #430 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I just got & started the Robert Jordan "Wheel of Time" series. An LGF'r recommend. I'm liking it, so far. Page 130 of the first book.

441 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:15:23pm

re: #435 jamesfirecat

Didn't feel like spending time to check.

All I can say at the moment is that there's probably a gene seed for asexuality, either that or the "battle brothers" are taking some lessons from the Spartans if you know what I mean.

I get that there's a mega huge epic war going on, but that never stopped Caphias Cain from finding time to get laid weather with a girl with a prehensile tail, an inquisitor or a member of the imperial navy!

Thats because CCC is the bomb. Has to be played by Bruce Campbell if they get around to a movie.

And the Gaunt's Ghost series did have a fair amount of implied shagging.

442 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:15:56pm

re: #425 SpaceJesus

Teacake can be, if you want it to be. I think Drew has better things to do.

443 tnguitarist  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:16:01pm

re: #431 Dark_Falcon

No, WUB is still one of us. But wolves do attack horses.

Would someone please tell me where this "over there" is? I'm out of the loop.

444 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:16:18pm

re: #440 Floral Giraffe

I just got & started the Robert Jordan "Wheel of Time" series. An LGF'r recommend. I'm liking it, so far. Page 130 of the first book.

Sweet, I'll be expecting regular updates.

445 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:17:06pm

re: #427 Slumbering Behemoth

You're fucking with me, right?

Know Your Meme

446 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:17:13pm

re: #444 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Did you like it? Have you read the series?

447 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:17:28pm

Ohh and they are covering for Snork's cowardice.

They only posted...

391 LudwigVanQuixote Wed, May 5, 2010 10:58:45pm replyquote

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But a shout out to possum… Possum you are the most beta of the beta, I told you, you don’t rate.

But left out the...

Now Snork, why don't you post the posts that debunked you? You are after all always whining to debate me? It seems you are the chickenshit eh?

448 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:17:56pm

re: #429 Floral Giraffe

They'd like to get it on with a furry?
Or just do it "animal style"!

HIDE WINDUPBIRD!!!

449 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:18:29pm

re: #441 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Thats because CCC is the bomb. Has to be played by Bruce Campbell if they get around to a movie.

And the Gaunt's Ghost series did have a fair amount of implied shagging.

Yes, Bruce Cambell would be the perfect guy to play triple C (which I'll call him because CCC can have some unsavory implications if you know what organization uses that anagram for their name) if there was ever a movie made about Warhammer 40K.

We should probably get Adam ("I'll be in my bunk") Baldwin to play Jurgen based on his role as Jayne though a little less lecherous a little more empty headed and good hearted...

450 Nimed  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:18:42pm

re: #389 jamesfirecat

I know I know, you seem like a good guy, I was just making a joke about how you mentioned you were surprised to realize you were a member of the class of 2004, many members of which have been banned in the last recent past...

I mostly registered to participate in the AGW posts. I knew about the role LGF had had in the Rather memos, though I was abroad at the time. Didn't know there was a potential ASoIaF community in it!

Since then, I've watched this interview at Dangerous minds, and a bit of the bloggingheads debates between Charles and Conn Carrol, which gave me a general idea of the evolution of LGF. These realignments inevitably piss off some of the readership of any blog, as Charles must have known. I admire his courage in the decision.

451 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:19:34pm

re: #443 tnguitarist

If, you were to google, say, little green footballs 2, you might find ONE of the swamps. Full of the "village of the banned" folks who USED to be able to participate here, but did ugly, nasty, things, and aren't allowed on Charles' Blog, anymore. Sick fucks, they are.

Was that a fair post?

452 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:19:34pm

re: #447 LudwigVanQuixote


that place has turned into an AOL chatroom circa 1995

453 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:19:35pm

re: #438 LudwigVanQuixote

I promise we don't always talk about them. I think a lot of people are just feeling a little fed up of late.

Seems we rabble-rousing night-watchmen tend to talk about them more.

Oh well.

454 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:19:59pm

re: #446 Floral Giraffe

Did you like it? Have you read the series?

Yeah, got a couple autographed editions. Got to meet Robert Jordan once. I've read the series a few times. You'll find a lot which seems minor come up again later with big implications.

455 sagehen  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:20:25pm

re: #432 tnguitarist

It is terrible, but people have lost their lives here. You would think that was newsworthy.


MSNBC is my usual cable news choice, and they've done... well, not in-depth extensive coverage, but a couple of minutes overview each hour, with some video and a listing of the historic places that are in trouble and a suggestion that people give to the red cross.

So I guess the weather channel and twitter feeds is the only media going into any real detail for you?

456 wee fury  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:20:46pm

re: #447 LudwigVanQuixote

Ohh and they are covering for Snork's cowardice.

They only posted...

But left out the...

Now Snork, why don't you post the posts that debunked you? You are after all always whining to debate me? It seems you are the chickenshit eh?

You are so cute when you bold like that.

457 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:21:25pm

re: #454 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I like it, so far. Good story telling.

458 tnguitarist  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:22:11pm

re: #451 Floral Giraffe

Yuck.

459 Kragar  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:22:16pm

re: #449 jamesfirecat

Yes, Bruce Cambell would be the perfect guy to play triple C (which I'll call him because CCC can have some unsavory implications if you know what organization uses that anagram for their name) if there was ever a movie made about Warhammer 40K.

We should probably get Adam ("I'll be in my bunk") Baldwin to play Jurgen based on his role as Jayne though a little less lecherous a little more empty headed and good hearted...

Nah, too big a guy for Jurgen, not squirrely enough. The guy who plays Ben on Lost would be a good fit.

460 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:22:19pm

re: #453 JasonA

Seems we rabble-rousing night-watchmen tend to talk about them more.

Oh well.

Speaking of which.. Snork, here is where I debunked your stupid pseudo-scientific crap.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I took two whole posts to take your BS down piece by piece and I used the dreaded technique of using actual facts.

Go for it buddy...

461 Dark_Falcon  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:23:24pm

I must go to bed. Goodnight, all.

462 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:23:27pm

re: #456 wee fury

You are so cute when you bold like that.

I know, I really shouldn't pick on them any more than I should pick on any other mentally challenged crazy person, but I am having some fun at their expense.

463 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:24:08pm

re: #460 LudwigVanQuixote

Wait, why are there people against modernizing our antiquated electrical grid?

464 tnguitarist  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:24:15pm

re: #455 sagehen

MSNBC is my usual cable news choice, and they've done... well, not in-depth extensive coverage, but a couple of minutes overview each hour, with some video and a listing of the historic places that are in trouble and a suggestion that people give to the red cross.

So I guess the weather channel and twitter feeds is the only media going into any real detail for you?

We've obviously had a lot of local coverage. When this aren't covered well nationally, people who need help might not get the help that they otherwise would.

465 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:25:32pm

And Lobo makes an admission.

224. lobo91

I wish. Last time I went on a date with anyone other than my soon-to-be-ex-wife was 10 years ago.

Geeze Lobo, last time I got laid was last night...

466 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:26:21pm

re: #463 JasonA

Wait, why are there people against modernizing our antiquated electrical grid?

Well because they see it as part of Obama's sekrit socialist attempts to start a new world order.

I am not joking.

467 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:27:43pm

re: #464 tnguitarist

We've obviously had a lot of local coverage. When this aren't covered well nationally, people who need help might not get the help that they otherwise would.

I know it's bad form to suggest what he posts, but I wish Charles would've given this a thread a day or so. Seems to me like the terrorist actually did have an affect. He had a monopoly on our attention for at least four days.

468 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:28:50pm

re: #466 LudwigVanQuixote

Well because they see it as part of Obama's sekrit socialist attempts to start a new world order.

I am not joking.

Oh come on people. This isn't something that just came up last week.

469 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:29:37pm

re: #467 JasonA

Er... an effect.

470 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:31:03pm

re: #445 JasonA

And so, I shall declare all deniers of fact, science, reason and logic to be Juggalos.

Folks like Pat Robertson may not wear the clown make-up, but they play the fool for money none the less.

471 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:31:14pm

Ohh Lobo thinks that Hispanic celebrations in AZ for the day being dimmed by the new law is "crap."

Lobo, it's because of attitudes like that you haven't had a date in a decade.

472 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:32:06pm

re: #470 Slumbering Behemoth


speaking of clown makeup, i think ive found a place to keep me busy the rest of the night

[Link: www.facebook.com...]

473 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:33:19pm

re: #472 SpaceJesus

speaking of clown makeup, i think ive found a place to keep me busy the rest of the night

[Link: www.facebook.com...]

You are a marvelously twisted being my alien tribe mate.

474 tnguitarist  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:33:33pm

re: #467 JasonA

I know it's bad form to suggest what he posts, but I wish Charles would've given this a thread a day or so. Seems to me like the terrorist actually did have an affect. He had a monopoly on our attention for at least four days.

I'm not a country music fan at all, but there's a lot of history that is going to bite the dust in some of these places.

475 sagehen  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:33:36pm

re: #464 tnguitarist

We've obviously had a lot of local coverage. When this aren't covered well nationally, people who need help might not get the help that they otherwise would.

Is FEMA/Hom.Sec. doing their job well? If not, where are they falling down?

And for the rest of us, other than Red Cross donations, is there anything useful we can do?

476 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:33:58pm

re: #451 Floral Giraffe

If, you were to google, say, little green footballs 2, you might find ONE of the swamps. Full of the "village of the banned" folks who USED to be able to participate here, but did ugly, nasty, things, and aren't allowed on Charles' Blog, anymore. Sick fucks, they are.

Was that a fair post?

Yes.

477 tnguitarist  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:38:56pm

re: #475 sagehen

Is FEMA/Hom.Sec. doing their job well? If not, where are they falling down?

And for the rest of us, other than Red Cross donations, is there anything useful we can do?

Everyone can stay the heck away. Seriously. They are having trouble getting around to search for for victims due to the massive amount of onlookers/gawkers. If you're going to donate, remember.....cash is king!!

478 Nimed  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:39:26pm

re: #451 Floral Giraffe

If, you were to google, say, little green footballs 2, you might find ONE of the swamps. Full of the "village of the banned" folks who USED to be able to participate here, but did ugly, nasty, things, and aren't allowed on Charles' Blog, anymore. Sick fucks, they are.

Was that a fair post?

Holy crap! It's immeditely obvious that there was no web designer among the banned. It's the first time I've seen Reagan, a bald eagle and the Lady Liberty conspire to give you a epilepsy fit.

479 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:39:37pm

re: #291 Slumbering Behemoth

Only poseurs and posturing fools openly discuss such possessions. The dumbest and loosest of lips. Not even my closest, must trusted friends are privy to the kinds ordinance I posses.

Which, for the record, is none at all.

I beg to differ. Your statement is probably valid for would-be revolutionaries and secession fantasists who are stashing guns and ammo for their perpetually planned uprising, but law-abiding and sane gun-owners are not crazy or fraudulent when they, too, openly discuss their guns.
I have done so here many times, and others have joined in. My guns are tools and significant artifacts of human experience in their own right. My Martini-Henry rifle, for example, was made in Birmingham England in 1884 and was the property of the Indian Army for generations. It works perfectly to this day.
If it could only speak.

One difference between me and the fantasy revolutionaries is probably that I have professional training in using firearms and some degree of real world experience. I am apparently proficient enough with them, since I am still here.

My idiot cousin joined the Marines btw and survived 4 years of service but I am not sure this is to the Corps' credit.

480 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:40:17pm

re: #473 LudwigVanQuixote

You are a marvelously twisted being my alien tribe mate.


the "discussion" section alone will keep me entertained for hours

481 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:43:13pm

re: #477 tnguitarist

Everyone can stay the heck away. Seriously. They are having trouble getting around to search for for victims due to the massive amount of onlookers/gawkers. If you're going to donate, remember...cash is king!!

re: #474 tnguitarist

I'm not a country music fan at all, but there's a lot of history that is going to bite the dust in some of these places.

I've been following this. I too am really shocked it isn't getting more coverage myself.

482 tnguitarist  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:44:05pm

re: #475 sagehen

Is FEMA/Hom.Sec. doing their job well? If not, where are they falling down?

And for the rest of us, other than Red Cross donations, is there anything useful we can do?

And yes, all rescue and security personnel are doing everything they can.

483 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:45:02pm

re: #478 Nimed

Holy crap! It's immeditely obvious that there was no web designer among the banned. It's the first time I've seen Reagan, a bald eagle and the Lady Liberty conspire to give you a epilepsy fit.

And Churchill's giving me that "pull your pants up!" look.

484 shiplord kirel  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:45:14pm

re: #291 Slumbering Behemoth

Only poseurs and posturing fools openly discuss such possessions. The dumbest and loosest of lips. Not even my closest, must trusted friends are privy to the kinds ordinance I posses.

Which, for the record, is none at all.

I beg to differ. Your statement is probably valid for would-be revolutionaries and secession fantasists who are stashing guns and ammo for their perpetually planned uprising, but law-abiding and sane gun-owners are not crazy or fraudulent when they, too, openly discuss their guns.
I have done so here many times, and others have joined in. My guns are tools and significant artifacts of human experience in their own right. My Martini-Henry rifle, for example, was made in Birmingham England in 1884 and was the property of the Indian Army for generations. It works perfectly to this day.
If it could only speak.

One difference between me and the fantasy revolutionaries is probably that I have professional training in using firearms and some degree of real world experience. I am apparently proficient enough with them, since I am still here.

My idiot cousin joined the Marines btw and survived 4 years of service but I am not sure this is to the Corps' credit.

485 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:49:27pm

re: #291 Slumbering Behemoth

Only poseurs and posturing fools openly discuss such possessions. The dumbest and loosest of lips. Not even my closest, must trusted friends are privy to the kinds ordinance I posses.

Which, for the record, is none at all.

I beg to differ. Your statement is probably valid for would-be revolutionaries and secession fantasists who are stashing guns and ammo for their perpetually planned uprising, but law-abiding and sane gun-owners are not crazy or fraudulent when they, too, openly discuss their guns.
I have done so here many times, and others have joined in. My guns are tools and significant artifacts of human experience in their own right. My Martini-Henry rifle, for example, was made in Birmingham England in 1884 and was the property of the Indian Army for generations. It works perfectly to this day.
If it could only speak.

One difference between me and the fantasy revolutionaries is probably that I have professional training in using firearms and some degree of real world experience. I am apparently proficient enough with them, since I am still here.

My idiot cousin joined the Marines btw and survived 4 years of service but I am not sure this is to the Corps' credit.

486 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:49:51pm

re: #478 Nimed

Holy crap! It's immeditely obvious that there was no web designer among the banned. It's the first time I've seen Reagan, a bald eagle and the Lady Liberty conspire to give you a epilepsy fit.

And Churchill's giving me that "pull your pants up!" look.

487 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:50:25pm

I have felt a BIG disturbance in the force.
Hope all are well!

488 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:51:13pm

test12

489 tnguitarist  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:51:54pm

Has the LGF site lost its mind, or is it my laptop?

490 Mocking Jay  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:54:45pm

re: #489 tnguitarist

Has the LGF site lost its mind, or is it my laptop?

Maybe Charles is fondling the code?

491 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:54:47pm

re: #489 tnguitarist

Has the LGF site lost its mind, or is it my laptop?

really slow for me too

492 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:56:15pm

re: #478 Nimed

Holy crap! It's immeditely obvious that there was no web designer among the banned. It's the first time I've seen Reagan, a bald eagle and the Lady Liberty conspire to give you a epilepsy fit.

Dude the real epilepsy comes if you read their comments. Be warned, it is like entering a twisted mirror world where people actually think Palin as super smart and Rush is not racist. It is a dimension of demented.

493 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:59:39pm

re: #492 LudwigVanQuixote

Good night all!

494 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, May 5, 2010 11:59:47pm

I think the hamsters decided to take the night off. They should look at the great service being done by these heroic Polish hamsters and hang their little furry heads in shame.

495 Mocking Jay  Thu, May 6, 2010 12:02:25am

re: #492 LudwigVanQuixote

Dude the real epilepsy comes if you read their comments. Be warned, it is like entering a twisted mirror world where people actually think Palin as super smart and Rush is not racist. It is a dimension of demented.

Ever gather the courage to listen to their podcasts?

496 Nimed  Thu, May 6, 2010 12:08:17am

re: #492 LudwigVanQuixote

Dude the real epilepsy comes if you read their comments. Be warned, it is like entering a twisted mirror world where people actually think Palin as super smart and Rush is not racist. It is a dimension of demented.

re: #495 JasonA

Ever gather the courage to listen to their podcasts?

I'm really trying guys, but I can't make progress. The stoopid is too thick, and I'm stuck at the outer layers. One post title, about LGF and Arizona, is entitled "Pequeños Balones de Fútbol Verde" - "verde" is green singular. This sounds something like "Little balls of green soccer" to somebody who understands Spanish.

497 engineer cat  Thu, May 6, 2010 12:08:24am

"blogmocracy"?

this is a word with bad mouthfeel

498 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, May 6, 2010 12:09:20am

re: #495 JasonA

Ever gather the courage to listen to their podcasts?

Once it was more pathetic than anything else.

Rodan: Hi... ummm. we are the VOICE OF THE RESISTANCE! Aren't we Savage?

Savage: Um... (pause) yes and this is our podcast.

Rodan: THose progressives really suck right? I mean how are we going to ... um... stop them from spreading Obamunism?

Savage: (crickets chirping)... Well uhh yeah, Obama really sucks.

Rodan: Super SUCKS!

Savage:

Savage:

Rodan: Like more sucky than a hoover sucks!

Savage: .... Yeah he's really ummm... terrible and leading this country in a bad direction.

Rodan: But HE fears us! We are the voice of the Resistance!

499 tnguitarist  Thu, May 6, 2010 12:09:28am

Goodnight, fine folks. I'm going to fall asleep to my old standby, Fletch.

Are you on a scavenger hunt, or did I just forget to pay my dinner check?

500 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 6, 2010 12:10:36am

re: #485 Shiplord Kirel

Perhaps my point was largely muddied by my love of beer and BBQ.

That point being... only fools and pretenders openly brag about the measures with which they secure their property and the safety of their loved ones. Again, loose lips. If I go about speaking openly of such things, I will only invite trouble.

Like boasting on how many gold doubloons I have buried in my back yard. Such talk serves only to entice nefarious treasure seekers.

501 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, May 6, 2010 12:11:28am

re: #494 Shiplord Kirel

Our hamsters fall down on the job, while Polish hamsters mine the moons of Mars. No wonder this country is in trouble, even our virtual rodents can't handle foreign competition.

502 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, May 6, 2010 12:11:35am

re: #496 Nimed

re: #497 engineer dog

Be warned my friends.. if you enter there is is like staring at a car wreck. It is like stumbling across two girls and one cup for the first time.

Some things you can not unsee!

Some things you can not unknow...

AND WHATEVER YOU DO. DO NOT POST THERE. SERIOUSLY.

503 Mocking Jay  Thu, May 6, 2010 12:13:27am

re: #502 LudwigVanQuixote

re: #497 engineer dog

AND WHATEVER YOU DO. DO NOT POST THERE. SERIOUSLY.

Yeah, this. Really bad idea. Only SpaceJesus came back alive...

504 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, May 6, 2010 12:14:27am

re: #500 Slumbering Behemoth

Perhaps my point was largely muddied by my love of beer and BBQ.

That point being... only fools and pretenders openly brag about the measures with which they secure their property and the safety of their loved ones. Again, loose lips. If I go about speaking openly of such things, I will only invite trouble.

Like boasting on how many gold doubloons I have buried in my back yard. Such talk serves only to entice nefarious treasure seekers.

Ah, I get it. I obviously won't be using a 125 year old antique rifle for protection, though it would serve if nothing else came to hand.

505 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, May 6, 2010 12:14:31am

re: #503 JasonA

Yeah, this. Really bad idea. Only SpaceJesus came back alive...

No he died too. He only came back three days later.

506 engineer cat  Thu, May 6, 2010 12:14:52am

re: #502 LudwigVanQuixote

thank you for the warning sir!

i suspect it's full of blogmoc

507 Mocking Jay  Thu, May 6, 2010 12:15:41am

re: #505 LudwigVanQuixote

No he died too. He only came back three days later.

I should sleep and maybe be productive tomorrow or something like that.

Ciao.

508 Nimed  Thu, May 6, 2010 12:15:54am

re: #502 LudwigVanQuixote

re: #503 JasonA

It's like discovering the Morlocks' caves, but it turns out they really were the dumb ones.

509 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, May 6, 2010 12:16:19am

re: #505 LudwigVanQuixote

No he died too. He only came back three days later.

Now that there is funny.

510 freetoken  Thu, May 6, 2010 12:17:36am

Just in time for this morning's Congressional hearings, PJM has put up a piece pimping Sensenbrenners regurgitation of various "skeptics", as well as laudatory claims about Monckton and Carlin.

Ludwig, your mission, should you choose to accept it....

511 Nimed  Thu, May 6, 2010 12:18:54am

I should get some sleep too. Thanks for the glimpse of the underworld.

512 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, May 6, 2010 12:19:11am

re: #506 engineer dog

thank you for the warning sir!

i suspect it's full of blogmoc

Well there is a good reason for it. Lots of them keep trying to get back on here. You do not want to be confused with one of them.

IN the mean time, one of them just posted this ohhh so witty and "not racist" post:

Sinko de Mayo? Didn’t the British Navy do that during the Falklands War?

Hurr hurrr hurr...

These are really horrible folks. If you dig around enough you can find praise for Serbians ethnic cleansing Muslims, the worst sorts of slurs directed against gays or women or anyone who doesn't agree - and persistent "wink wink" racism that occasionally surfaces much more openly.

513 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, May 6, 2010 12:20:12am

re: #510 freetoken

Just in time for this morning's Congressional hearings, PJM has put up a piece pimping Sensenbrenners regurgitation of various "skeptics", as well as laudatory claims about Monckton and Carlin.

Ludwig, your mission, should you choose to accept it...

Lol I will tomorrow perhaps. I do not have the energy right this moment.

Snork's stupid was enough for one evening.

514 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, May 6, 2010 12:20:49am

re: #509 Shiplord Kirel

Now that there is funny.

Thank you! I aim to please.

515 freetoken  Thu, May 6, 2010 12:32:33am

re: #513 LudwigVanQuixote

My implication was that you post over there, not here.

When Carlin first burst on the scene I wrote up a bit here... it was immediately attacked by the now banned Alberta Oil Peon, who didn't seem to think I actually knew that about which I wrote.

Few here now hold the AGW deniers in high regard, but such malarky is the post du jour over on PJM (and almost all the rest of the wingnut-o-sphere.)

516 ozbloke  Thu, May 6, 2010 12:37:28am

Dear Diary, what a day its been.

517 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 6, 2010 12:39:51am

re: #504 Shiplord Kirel

Back in the day...

I knew a dude who bought a large gun safe. The delivers wanted to take it out of it's cardboard box in order to haul it into his house. He said "No, leave it in the cardboard".

Hours later, at the bar, a vague acquaintance says "You had a refrigerator delivered today?"

"Yep, the old one crapped out".

The guy was a bit of a nut, but loose lips still sink ships. And potential burglars love to hear about all the neat stuff you have, and all the particulars of your work schedule.

Guns are only scary when they are in someone's hands. When they're in an empty house, they're just like free money to some folk.

Loose lips. Not even my closest friends know what I do or do not have going on. I'm saving all my secrets for the zombie apocalypse.

518 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, May 6, 2010 12:41:07am

re: #515 freetoken

My implication was that you post over there, not here.

When Carlin first burst on the scene I wrote up a bit here... it was immediately attacked by the now banned Alberta Oil Peon, who didn't seem to think I actually knew that about which I wrote.

Few here now hold the AGW deniers in high regard, but such malarky is the post du jour over on PJM (and almost all the rest of the wingnut-o-sphere.)

Ahhh.. I see. Well I might just have to do so at some point. However, preaching to the stupid is a thankless task.

Most Lizards are pretty smart. It took over a year of posts here from me to establish how real AGW was - and you helped a lot - Even so, there are still holdouts here who just won't hear it. You are right though. It might have some benefit.

519 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, May 6, 2010 12:49:43am

Ohhh one more shout to the possum. I do not "fear daddy." I am more than well enough established in hating you assholes that Charles would realize that I was there to give you shit.

But that wouldn't be as much fun as this.

I don't post there because knowing you are reading me here - knowing you are banned with good reason - amuses me.

Care to tell us how you didn't deserve to be banned?

I love how you folks spin stories, my favorite ones involve having multiple accounts on the same address because it was you and your five kids and pet ferret who all had accounts and well that ferret posted what he did.. it wasn't your fault...

Now care to put up Snork's debunking. I know you read it? Why aren't you challenging the economic analysis of the folks at MIT? You all know the science right? Well those of you who can do simple percentages... You know Snork completely wussed out.

You know he wussed out because he is a fraud.

520 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, May 6, 2010 12:52:21am

And shouting to Paul...

Snork is always whining that he would love to "debate me." I did actually refute his garbage completely. Why is it that he could not discuss that?

You know why also.

As to you leaving on your own accord.. that is a laugh. Perhaps I will ask Charles how many socks yu had. And if you left so happily, why are you still reading here?

521 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 6, 2010 12:56:51am

In parting, some non-traditional Mariachi for this Cinco Seis de Mayo.

Until next time... Peace and Love Lizards. I'm out.

522 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, May 6, 2010 12:58:03am

re: #521 Slumbering Behemoth

In parting, some non-traditional Mariachi for this Cinco Seis de Mayo.

Until next time... Peace and Love Lizards. I'm out.

Sleep well mate. I'm out too.

523 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, May 6, 2010 1:03:07am

OK Paul, I'll send Charles an e-mail that sometime I'd like to drop in you asses just to give you hell if you post the two posts that completely debunked Snork.

It would ruin the fun of making you read here, but the idea of some actual science being posted on your blog is worth spoiling that pleasure.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Go for it. I'll be watching.

And I will also ask him why you were banned.

524 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, May 6, 2010 1:07:22am

Post the debunkings. You know Snork is a fraud. If he isn't, he should be able to counter MIT shouldn't he?

525 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, May 6, 2010 1:07:47am

Or are YOU afraid of Daddy Snorkles?

526 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, May 6, 2010 1:12:22am

And by the way Charles has very good reason to ban those who don't tell him about going to that cesspool first. Those sick bastards have threatened his person many times.

If one of my friends just started hanging out with people who threatened to hurt me, I would want to know why also. That is called basic courtesy.

527 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, May 6, 2010 1:13:11am

And with that I really am out.

528 ryannon  Thu, May 6, 2010 1:51:39am

re: #517 Slumbering Behemoth

Back in the day...

I knew a dude who bought a large gun safe. The delivers wanted to take it out of it's cardboard box in order to haul it into his house. He said "No, leave it in the cardboard".

Hours later, at the bar, a vague acquaintance says "You had a refrigerator delivered today?"

"Yep, the old one crapped out".

The guy was a bit of a nut, but loose lips still sink ships. And potential burglars love to hear about all the neat stuff you have, and all the particulars of your work schedule.

Guns are only scary when they are in someone's hands. When they're in an empty house, they're just like free money to some folk.

Loose lips. Not even my closest friends know what I do or do not have going on. I'm saving all my secrets for the zombie apocalypse.

Same here. When I bought one of those nifty A-bombs in a Samsonite suitcase that the good people over in the former USSR had developed, I told everyone that it was just a new suitcase and not a nucear weapon I was able to purchase on the black market.

And there she is, sitting right in my closet, waiting for someone to make my day.

/

529 ryannon  Thu, May 6, 2010 1:57:41am

Anybody messes with me, they're going to regret it, by golly.

530 ryannon  Thu, May 6, 2010 2:54:11am

Another secret weapon:

531 ryannon  Thu, May 6, 2010 3:09:32am

And in this morning's news lineup, the usual parade of cruelty, indifference, hatred, lies, mayhem and destructiveness.

It's like a jungle sometimes. It makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under...

532 Quant  Thu, May 6, 2010 3:29:13am

re: #178 Querent

maybe he uses the 'novels' as a brain colonic -- read 5 chapters of Atlas a day for six days, and on the seventh, your brain will vomit up every bit of BS it's absorbed since the last time you read it.

(that just-completed reading included)


GQ had a funny rant about Ayn Rand called The Bitch is Back. It contains many grains of truth amidst the humour.

533 laZardo  Thu, May 6, 2010 3:38:56am

Now can we stop saying that the teabaggers "aren't really conservative?"

/also goodevening

534 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 4:17:53am

re: #531 ryannon

Awww.

535 laZardo  Thu, May 6, 2010 4:24:21am

re: #531 ryannon

And in this morning's news lineup, the usual parade of cruelty, indifference, hatred, lies, mayhem and destructiveness.

It's like a jungle sometimes. It makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under...

Fix'd.

In the meantime, the top candidate to win the Presidential Election on Monday has nothing but his deceased parents to his name.

/need Jaws of Life to wedge palm from face.

536 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 6, 2010 4:44:39am

Suspect's Ties to Pakistan Taliban Probed

U.S. and Pakistani investigators are giving increased credence to links between Times Square bombing suspect Faisal Shahzad and the Pakistan Taliban, with one senior Pakistani official saying Mr. Shahzad received instruction from the Islamist group's suicide-bomb trainer.

If the links are verified, it would mark a stark shift in how the Pakistan Taliban—an affiliate of the Taliban in Afghanistan—and related jihadist groups in Pakistan pursue their goals. Until now, they have focused on attacks within Pakistan and in India, not the U.S.

537 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, May 6, 2010 4:45:55am

Lizardoids, you need to see this to truly understand the radical right today:

Lost Cause of the Confederacy

The Lost Cause is the name commonly given to a literary and intellectual movement that sought to reconcile the traditional white society of the Southern United States to the defeat of the Confederate States of America in the Civil War of 1861–1865. Those who contributed to the movement tended to portray the Confederacy's cause as noble and most of the Confederacy's leaders as exemplars of old-fashioned chivalry, defeated by the Union armies not through superior military skill, but by overwhelming force. They also tended to condemn Reconstruction.

This 19th century revisionist movement is still relevant because many of its doctrines and myths have been carried over intact to the present day.

There are modern Lost Cause writers of history such as James Ronald Kennedy and his twin brother Walter Donald Kennedy (founders of The League of the South and author of The South Was Right! and Jefferson Davis Was Right! who play down slavery as a cause in favor of Southern Nationalism.
.......
In arguing why the theme of this book is important to contemporary Southerners, the Kennedys write in the conclusion of their work:

The Southern people have all the power we need to put an end to forced busing, affirmative action, extravagant welfare spending, the punitive Southern-only Voting Rights Act, the refusal of the Northern liberals to allow Southern conservatives to sit on the Supreme Court, and the economic exploitation of the South into a secondary economic status. What is needed is not more power but the will to use the power at hand! The choice is now yours—ignore this challenge and remain a second-class citizen, or unite with your fellow Southerners and help start a Southern political revolution.[23]

Historian David Goldfield characterizes books "such as 'The South Was Right'" as:

.

..explaining that "the War of Northern Aggression was not fought to preserve any union of historic creation, formation, and understanding, but to achieve a new union by conquest and plunder." As for the abolitionists, they were a collection of socialists, atheists, and "reprehensible agitators."[24]


Sound familiar? You betcha!

538 sattv4u2  Thu, May 6, 2010 4:47:40am

re: #536 NJDhockeyfan

Suspect's Ties to Pakistan Taliban Probed

We can't waterboard him but we can "PROBE" him!?!?

Cool!!

////

539 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 4:49:15am

So... just saw an article. Wile E. Coyote, Genius?

Didn't like Bush.

He doesn't get a paper, does he.

540 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 4:51:02am

re: #535 laZardo

Hey! Zardo!

Whaaa?

541 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 6, 2010 4:54:14am

While Oil Slick Spread, Interior Department Chief of Staff Rafted with Wife on "Work-Focused" Trip in Grand Canyon

Though his agency was charged with coordinating the federal response to the major oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, Department of the Interior chief of staff Tom Strickland was in the Grand Canyon with his wife last week participating in activities that included white-water rafting, ABC News has learned.

Other leaders of the Interior Department were focused on the Gulf, joined by other agencies and literally thousands of other employees. But Strickland’s participation in a trip that administration officials insisted was “work-focused” raised eyebrows among other Obama administration officials and even within even his own department, sources told ABC News.

/Heck of a job Tommy!

542 laZardo  Thu, May 6, 2010 4:57:45am

re: #540 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey! Zardo!

Whaaa?

Philippine Presidential Elections are on Monday. As it happens, I'm actually gonna go out and vote.

Hopefully I won't end up in Gitmo for voting in two different countries.

543 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 6, 2010 4:57:59am

UNSC powers back nuke-free ME


The five permanent members of the UN Security Council said they support a nuclear-free zone in the Middle East, according to a unanimous statement circulated during a conference aimed at strengthening nonproliferation.

Without mentioning Israel by name, the group voiced support for the “full implementation” of a 1995 resolution intended to free the Middle East from nuclear arms. “We are committed to a full implemented of the 1995 NPT resolution on the Middle East and we support all ongoing efforts to this end,” the statement read. “We are ready to consider all relevant proposals in the course of the Review Conference in order to come to an agreed decision aimed at taking concrete steps in this direction.”

The statement also stressed “serious concern” over the Iranian nuclear program and urged all countries to sign and adhere the 1970 Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.

Three countries are not party to the NPT, including India, Pakistan and Israel, which is widely believed to possess a nuclear arsenal. “We urge those state that are not parties to the treaty to accede as non-nuclear-weapon states and pending accession to the NPT, to adhere to its terms,” the five countries wrote.

544 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 6, 2010 4:58:00am

It's obvious that "teabagger" is just not a proper term for use in civil political discussion. Fortunately, I have stumbled upon a more useful word and will refer to outlandish TP antagonists as "Inscrotables".

545 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 4:58:31am

re: #538 sattv4u2

We can't waterboard him but we can "PROBE" him!?!?

"PROBE?" DID SOMEONE SAY "PROBE"?!

546 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 6, 2010 4:58:39am

re: #542 laZardo

Philippine Presidential Elections are on Monday. As it happens, I'm actually gonna go out and vote.

Hopefully I won't end up in Gitmo for voting in two different countries.

Better check in with Sen. Lieberman.

547 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 6, 2010 4:59:24am

re: #542 laZardo

Philippine Presidential Elections are on Monday. As it happens, I'm actually gonna go out and vote.

Hopefully I won't end up in Gitmo for voting in two different countries.

Don't blow anything up and you should have any problems.

Who do you like in the election?

548 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 6, 2010 5:00:09am

re: #547 NJDhockeyfan

Don't blow anything up and you shouldn't have any problems.

Who do you like in the election?

PIMF

549 laZardo  Thu, May 6, 2010 5:02:37am

re: #547 NJDhockeyfan

Don't blow anything up and you should have any problems.

Who do you like in the election?

The administration candidate. He's actually the second cousin of the one I facepalmed about earlier, but this one is actually a Colonel in the Air Force Reserve and a former Secretary of Defense.

550 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 5:07:12am

re: #528 ryannon

Same here. When I bought one of those nifty A-bombs in a Samsonite suitcase that the good people over in the former USSR had developed, I told everyone that it was just a new suitcase and not a nucear weapon I was able to purchase on the black market.

And there she is, sitting right in my closet, waiting for someone to make my day.

/

"My student loan people called me. Said that I am behind on my student loan. In fact, they said I've never made a payment, and that they know I did not attend college. Asked me what I did with the money. I said, I bought a nuclear device with it, and I'd really appreciate it if they'd never call me again."
-Steven Wright

551 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 6, 2010 5:17:49am

Call Them What They Are: Illegal Aliens
By Ed Koch

The push is on for providing amnesty to the estimated 12 to 20 million illegal aliens in this country. The supporters of this effort include President Barack Obama, former president George W. Bush, Senator John McCain, Majority Leader Harry Reid and New York Senator Chuck Schumer. Senator Schumer is now chairman of the immigration subcommittee previously chaired by the late Senator Ted Kennedy, a major amnesty proponent.

Amnesty supporters see themselves as taking the high road and claim that amnesty opponents are opposed to immigration, when nothing could be further from the truth. Many amnesty opponents actually support expanding legal immigration. Currently, the U.S. has the highest legal immigration in the world. Every year, we allow 750,000 immigrants to enter the country legally and make them eligible for citizenship within five years. Two hundred and fifty thousand aslyees are also permitted to enter annually. Those legal immigrants have the
right to work and earn a living; the asylees are eligible to work six months after applying to work. If we need more immigrants, as many think we do to expand the workforce of our graying population, then we can easily increase the number of legal immigrants.

If we give the current illegals amnesty, you can be sure that 20 or so years from now, there will be a clamor for another amnesty bill as the illegals will continue to pour in.

...

552 Cato the Elder  Thu, May 6, 2010 5:19:33am

It's good to see some serious overnight Ayn Rand mockery goin' on.

My modest contribution: Did you know that she and Aleister Crowley were separated at birth?

553 AK-47%  Thu, May 6, 2010 5:21:32am

re: #551 NJDhockeyfan

"If we give the current illegals amnesty, you can be sure that 20 or so years from now, there will be a clamor for another amnesty bill as the illegals will continue to pour in."

Ed is right if we only offer amnesty and not include it as part of a comprehensive package of immigration reform, which would have to include restricting access across our borders, registering and tracking illegals and not hesitating to revoke the visas of those who violate the law and deport them.

554 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 6, 2010 5:21:50am

Town Bans Bottled Water Sales

CONCORD, Mass. --
The town of Concord has banned the sale of bottled drinking water in town beginning in 2011.

"We only have one planet and I just don't want to see it spoiled," said Jean Hill, who introduced the measure at Concord's Town Meeting.

Hill said that New York, Illinois and Virginia, as well as more than 100 cities, have taken action to cut spending on bottled water.

The measured passed by Concord would allow the sale of refillable containers of water, which could still be sold and delivered in town. Only plastic bottles that companies cannot reuse would be banned.

"Water is something we can get from the faucet. You can't turn your faucet on and get soda," said Selectwoman Virginia McIntyre, explaining why other plastic bottles would not be banned.

555 laZardo  Thu, May 6, 2010 5:25:43am

re: #553 ralphieboy

"If we give the current illegals amnesty, you can be sure that 20 or so years from now, there will be a clamor for another amnesty bill as the illegals will continue to pour in."

Ed is right if we only offer amnesty and not include it as part of a comprehensive package of immigration reform, which would have to include restricting access across our borders, registering and tracking illegals and not hesitating to revoke the visas of those who violate the law and deport them.

That and I have a relative that has effectively been "illegal" in the United States for 20+ years. This relative's kids are American, spouse is permanent resident, and they're going through an expensive process just to fix up that relative's status.

(Note: Just in case anyone from the INS is watching, I'm declining to state that relative's gender.)

556 AK-47%  Thu, May 6, 2010 5:26:08am

re: #554 NJDhockeyfan

Town Bans Bottled Water Sales


Germany simply instituted a country-wide mandatory deposit on all bottled water, as it is very common here, especially carbonated mineral water.

Industry fought it tooth and nail, but it is now an established system. It now applies for most anything sold in a plastic or aluminium container.

557 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 5:27:11am

re: #554 NJDhockeyfan

"Psst. Hey. Buddy. Wanna buy a litre? Got some good shit, right here. Bottle's never been opened."

558 Kruk  Thu, May 6, 2010 5:28:14am

re: #557 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Psst. Hey. Buddy. Wanna buy a litre? Got some good shit, right here. Bottle's never been opened."

Heh. Only in countries with an endless supply of clean, safe drinking water on tap do people spend a fortune on bottled water.

559 AK-47%  Thu, May 6, 2010 5:28:20am

re: #555 laZardo

"Comprehensive" also means "expensive" and "will create even more bureaucracy to enforce it".

I think that is one of the major stubling blocks, but not as big a stumbling block as the vested interests who want to retain the perverse patchwork status quo.

560 sattv4u2  Thu, May 6, 2010 5:29:50am

Just heard on the news

Freddie Mac is asking for 10.6 BILLION dollars to cover expected losses
This, after it has already lost 8 BILLION in the 1st 3 months of 2010

This, after it's already lost 61 BILLION overall

So when are they being called before congress?

561 Liberal Classic  Thu, May 6, 2010 5:31:52am

re: #316 Querent

'scratch a libertarian and you'll find someone who's pining for the return of the aristocracy - because he thinks he'd be one.'

Lots of libertarian snark in this thread. Nevertheless, I'm proud to be a social liberal and fiscal conservative.

562 Kruk  Thu, May 6, 2010 5:32:05am

re: #550 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"My student loan people called me. Said that I am behind on my student loan. In fact, they said I've never made a payment, and that they know I did not attend college. Asked me what I did with the money. I said, I bought a nuclear device with it, and I'd really appreciate it if they'd never call me again."
-Steven Wright

Heh. I gotta say, I love the student loan system here in New Zealand. The loan is interest free while I'm in New Zealand, and I only have to start making repayments when my income rises about above a set amount. It's great for people who take time out from the workforce for further study, you don't have to worry about the loan compounding while you're not earning.

563 Cato the Elder  Thu, May 6, 2010 5:34:01am

re: #553 ralphieboy

"If we give the current illegals amnesty, you can be sure that 20 or so years from now, there will be a clamor for another amnesty bill as the illegals will continue to pour in."

Ed is right if we only offer amnesty and not include it as part of a comprehensive package of immigration reform, which would have to include restricting access across our borders, registering and tracking illegals and not hesitating to revoke the visas of those who violate the law and deport them.

Hmm, do you have a plan for all that?

Maybe a grand one?

A. Comprehensive Package of Immigration Reform

Part I. Amnesty. (Well, that was easy!)

Part II. Restrict access across our borders
a. Make plan to restrict accesss
b. [...]
x. Access restricted!

Part III. Register and track illegals
[see part II]

[etc.]

Where did you get your Easy Button?

564 Cato the Elder  Thu, May 6, 2010 5:35:50am

re: #562 Kruk

Heh. I gotta say, I love the student loan system here in New Zealand. The loan is interest free while I'm in New Zealand, and I only have to start making repayments when my income rises about above a set amount. It's great for people who take time out from the workforce for further study, you don't have to worry about the loan compounding while you're not earning.

I bet they do other evil socialist stuff like restricting the amount of tuition you can be expected to pay to some kind of pay-backable level, hmm?

Wouldn't work here.

565 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 5:38:04am

re: #560 sattv4u2

Just heard on the news

Freddie Mac is asking for 10.6 BILLION dollars to cover expected losses
This, after it has already lost 8 BILLION in the 1st 3 months of 2010

This, after it's already lost 61 BILLION overall

So when are they being called before congress?

HEALTHCARE!

566 Kruk  Thu, May 6, 2010 5:40:32am

re: #564 Cato the Elder

I bet they do other evil socialist stuff like restricting the amount of tuition you can be expected to pay to some kind of pay-backable level, hmm?

Wouldn't work here.

Yep. The government typically funds about 75% of University fees, with the student paying the rest. Most students leave university with between $10,000 and $15,000 (New Zealand dollars) in loans, though medical and dental students can have up to $100,000. So far I've racked about $30,000 in loans, but that's for a undergraduate science degree, my professional pharmacy degree and my PhD to date.

567 sattv4u2  Thu, May 6, 2010 5:41:40am

re: #565 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

HEALTHCARE!

my thoughts 'zaclly!

568 laZardo  Thu, May 6, 2010 5:42:58am

And now for some good ol' fashioned IRL trolling.

/vive la resistance!

569 AK-47%  Thu, May 6, 2010 5:44:04am

re: #563 Cato the Elder

Check my comment #559, and you will get the rest of the story; namely that it will be expensive, time consuming create more government bureaucracy and fly in the face of a lot of entrenched interests.

My point was that amnesty will really only work if it is part of that package. But then again, anything short of a massive, painful, expensive overhaul will fall short of its goals.

Which means we're gonna have this ever-growing problem hanging over our heads until we finally find ourselves declaring declare war on Mexico and start building internment camps...

570 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 6, 2010 5:44:25am

The student loans we had here in the 60s were decent--government guarantees to lenders kept their risks and interest low (about 2% IIRC). We didn't sart paying until graduation, and had about 10 yrs to pay out. Subsequent versions have turned students into a debt crop.

571 Cato the Elder  Thu, May 6, 2010 5:46:44am

re: #569 ralphieboy

Check my comment #559, and you will get the rest of the story; namely that it will be expensive, time consuming create more government bureaucracy and fly in the face of a lot of entrenched interests.

My point was that amnesty will really only work if it is part of that package. But then again, anything short of a massive, painful, expensive overhaul will fall short of its goals.

Which means we're gonna have this ever-growing problem hanging over our heads until we finally find ourselves declaring declare war on Mexico and start building internment camps...

Or, we could just take the immigrants that manage to get here and put 'em to work legally to meet the needs of the people who are already hiring 'em.

But that would be too easy and too goddamn humane, wouldn't it?

572 Kruk  Thu, May 6, 2010 5:50:58am

re: #570 Decatur Deb

The student loans we had here in the 60s were decent--government guarantees to lenders kept their risks and interest low (about 2% IIRC). We didn't sart paying until graduation, and had about 10 yrs to pay out. Subsequent versions have turned students into a debt crop.

The New Zealand system has the Goverment lending the money directly, and the tax department recouping the repayments directly from from the borrower's wages. (Those of us with a student loan use a special tax code, and the repayment is collected on top of our normal deductions.) It's low risk for all concerned, as you can't escape repayment without engaging in tax fraud, and the Government can't change the rates or interest without alienating a huge number of voters.

573 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 6, 2010 5:55:17am

re: #572 Kruk

Makes sense--one downside of our system was a high default rate and poor policing. The lenders just passed the losses on to the gov. It didn't help that we graduated into a stiff recession.

574 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 5:56:32am

Morning Honcos.

575 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:00:20am

Hey everyone. This has been an interesting couple of days. I've had two small consulting/contracting firms contact me about what looks to be the same job. I don't think either has the contract yet and they're looking to see who they can recruit first. Both offer better benefits than I'm getting now and one told me a salary range that's more than I'm currently getting.

One of them wants me to sign a letter of intent. I need to look at that more closely. I told the second firm that contacted me about the first one. Waiting for their response.

576 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:02:18am

re: #575 Mad Al-Jaffee

Hey everyone. This has been an interesting couple of days. I've had two small consulting/contracting firms contact me about what looks to be the same job. I don't think either has the contract yet and they're looking to see who they can recruit first. Both offer better benefits than I'm getting now and one told me a salary range that's more than I'm currently getting.

One of them wants me to sign a letter of intent. I need to look at that more closely. I told the second firm that contacted me about the first one. Waiting for their response.

Steal it from both of them if you can.

577 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:02:41am

re: #575 Mad Al-Jaffee

Either setup looks like a good sign.

578 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:02:51am

Well, this is bullshit.
[Link: www.nbcbayarea.com...]

579 Kruk  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:03:08am

Anyone else watching the UK elections with interest? Not only is this the closesly election in 30 plus years (a hung parliment looks a real possibility), but the win could well be a poisoned chalice. Whoever wins will have to make massive cuts to balance the budget, and they could end up being so unpopular they could be out of power for a decade afterwards.

580 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:04:28am

"HEALTHY CHOICES ON MENUS? heh


#1: The Worst “Healthy” Food in America
Cheesecake Factory Bistro Shrimp Pasta
2,819 calories
77 g saturated fat (Yes, four days' worth!)
1,008 mg sodium

It’s hard to say what’s the most shocking part of this dish—the fact that it has nearly one and a half times your daily caloric allotment, or the fact that it somehow manages to keep the sodium count at a reasonable level, in spite of its monstrous proportions. This is the absolute worst dish on the worst menu in America, no small feat considering that it’s surrounded by other plates that surge past the 2,000-calorie limit. Forget the fact that it has shrimp in it. There is nothing nutritionally redeeming about this platter.

[Link: health.yahoo.com...]

581 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:05:22am

re: #576 Cannadian Club Akbar

Steal it from both of them if you can.

Steal what?

582 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:06:07am

re: #578 Cannadian Club Akbar

Well, this is bullshit.
[Link: www.nbcbayarea.com...]

It's some kind of BS, either brain-dead administration or a few punks trying to start shit under a blameless cover. Guess we would have to be there.

583 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:06:55am

re: #575 Mad Al-Jaffee

Ernie Capadino: They'll pay you 75 dollars a week.
Kit Keller: We only make 30 at the dairy.
Ernie Capadino: Well then, this would be more, wouldn't it?

-A League of Their Own

584 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:08:57am

re: #580 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"HEALTHY CHOICES ON MENUS? heh

#1: The Worst “Healthy” Food in America
Cheesecake Factory Bistro Shrimp Pasta
2,819 calories
77 g saturated fat (Yes, four days' worth!)
1,008 mg sodium

It’s hard to say what’s the most shocking part of this dish—the fact that it has nearly one and a half times your daily caloric allotment, or the fact that it somehow manages to keep the sodium count at a reasonable level, in spite of its monstrous proportions. This is the absolute worst dish on the worst menu in America, no small feat considering that it’s surrounded by other plates that surge past the 2,000-calorie limit. Forget the fact that it has shrimp in it. There is nothing nutritionally redeeming about this platter.

[Link: health.yahoo.com...]

I want some.

585 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:10:40am

re: #578 Cannadian Club Akbar

Ain't that America, You and me
Ain't that America, Something to see
Ain't that America, Home of the Free
Little Pink Houses for you and me.

586 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:11:23am

re: #581 Mad Al-Jaffee

Steal what?

If they want to hire you for the job, then you are probably an important part of the gig. Just go around them if you can. (if there are regulations in place that makes it not possible, ignore this.)

587 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:11:29am

re: #584 NJDhockeyfan

I want some.

Cheese Cake Factory stuff is really good, you just have to know you're messing with your actuarial tables when you hang out there.

588 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:13:00am

re: #586 Cannadian Club Akbar

If they want to hire you for the job, then you are probably an important part of the gig. Just go around them if you can. (if there are regulations in place that makes it not possible, ignore this.)

It's a contract job with a federal agency. The only way to get directly hired for a fed job is to apply through usa jobs, then wait forever to hear nothing about what you applied for. I've been doing that for years.

589 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:14:33am

Morning boys and girls. The letter of the day is:

B

590 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:14:39am

re: #582 Decatur Deb

I agree with you at first glance.

Wearing an American flag t-shirt on Cinco de Mayo, however (though you didn't claim it, the Administration is) is not analogous to wearing a "Rebel Flag" t-shirt on Martin Luther King Day to a mostly African American high school.

Administration is wrong.

591 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:15:18am

re: #589 Locker

Bitchin'!

592 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:15:23am

re: #582 Decatur Deb

It's some kind of BS, either brain-dead administration or a few punks trying to start shit under a blameless cover. Guess we would have to be there.

"I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican Heritage Day," Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student

When did it become Mexican Heritage Day?

593 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:16:27am

re: #592 Cannadian Club Akbar

"I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican Heritage Day," Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student

When did it become Mexican Heritage Day?

How do you say "kiss my ass" in Spanish?

594 laZardo  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:17:29am

re: #589 Locker

Morning boys and girls. The letter of the day is:

B

Rules 1 & 2...are for newfags*.

/DISCLAIMER: Referencing a certain internet hub where '-fag' is a generic descriptive suffix for anyone, regardless of actual sexual orientation.

595 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:17:31am

re: #593 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

How do you say "kiss my ass" in Spanish?

Not sure, but coolo(sp?) is in there somewhere.
/

596 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:18:01am

re: #590 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I agree with you at first glance.

Wearing an American flag t-shirt on Cinco de Mayo, however (though you didn't claim it, the Administration is) is not analogous to wearing a "Rebel Flag" t-shirt on Martin Luther King Day to a mostly African American high school.

Administration is wrong.

Probably so, but kids are smart enough to put them in an impossible position. Most of the "outrage" stories coming out of our schools are massive simplifications, either through lazy journalism or partisan manipulation. Because kids are involved, all buttons are "Hot".

597 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:20:10am

re: #592 Cannadian Club Akbar

"I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican Heritage Day," Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student

When did it become Mexican Heritage Day?

Note "a" Mexican heritage day. There are Boston high schools where you don't wear orange on 17 March.

598 laZardo  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:20:12am

re: #593 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

How do you say "kiss my ass" in Spanish?

Ask the King of Spain.

599 reine.de.tout  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:20:47am

re: #592 Cannadian Club Akbar

"I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican Heritage Day," Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student

When did it become Mexican Heritage Day?

I've not heard of that holiday.

At any rate - I don't care if the Mexican or Mexican-American kids want to celebrate their heritage.

But it's silly to be upset because there are other students who aren't of Mexican heritage.

600 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:21:16am

I met the most interesting fellow yesterday. He is an 84 year old WWII vet. He was a medic in the Navy and was station on a rescue ship, the USS PCE(R)852. The medics had to rescue injured soldiers on land and on other ships. He told me they would pull up right beside another ship and jump with a full pack to the other ship. He's written books about his experiences and is working on videos which will be shown on the local public access channel. Here are the books he (Alfred Samuels) wrote on is his website. There are some other books there too.

601 vinnievin  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:22:28am

re: #40 SpaceJesus

oh joy we have one of these

We have more than one of 'those'

602 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:22:29am

re: #597 Decatur Deb

Note "a" Mexican heritage day. There are Boston high schools where you don't wear orange on 17 March.

Why not where orange?

603 laZardo  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:23:02am

re: #602 Cannadian Club Akbar

Why not where orange?

Orange = Dutch = New York?

/subtle.

604 vinnievin  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:23:22am

re: #44 jamesfirecat

They're inability to say what part of government they want to make smaller.

But not their inability to use homonyms correctly.

605 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:23:24am

re: #600 NJDhockeyfan

Thanks--bookmarked.

606 lostlakehiker  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:23:40am

re: #76 SpaceJesus

and they like to fantasize that the founding fathers would have been in favor of their anti-tax poseur rebellion against the federal government. I'd like to instruct the tea party folks to look up the Whiskey Rebellion and Shay's rebellion and see how those turned out.

Economists talk about 'revealed preferences'. You can look at peoples' behavior and discern what they really really want. In this case, I'd say what the tea party movement wants is lower taxes and smaller government, not civil war.

They've taken no steps toward civil war, nor toward a putsch. There may be several reasons for this, and one of them surely is that it wouldn't stand a chance. We all know this. They know it too. But another reason is probably that that's not what they want anyhow. What does stand a chance is the project of electing some candidates who don't have a long track record in politics and who would be less likely to acculturate to the Washington way of doing things. They'd be less likely to go along to get along, and they'd be steadfast in voting against further expansions to big government.

They'd probably be less inclined to believe mainstream science when it comes to AGW. This spirit of independent thinking that would be so much the signature of a tea party candidate can shade over with little effort into a spirit of rejecting even irrefutable evidence, just because it comes from the 'establishment'.

They'd see themselves as patriots, which is fine. They might see their opponents as doubtful elements, which would be unfortunate. After the next election, we'll have some actual winners to size up. One, five, a dozen, who can say? Then we'll get some more 'revealed preferences' data.

607 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:23:58am

re: #602 Cannadian Club Akbar

Why not where orange?

Syracuse haters everywhere. No love for the Orangemen.

608 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:24:57am

re: #596 Decatur Deb

Oh, I'm guessing (I admit, I'm guessing) the Admin made some kind of big deal with the Anglo kids that this is a special day for the Hispanic kids. And to show some respect.

The kids, being smart-ass kids wore their American flags (for the first time in their lives, to be buttholes about it)...

That being said, they are in America, and they can wear the American flag if the damn well please.

If one Hispanic kid was wearing a Mexican Flag emblem, the kids had a right to wear the American Flag emblem.

Now, the Hispanic kid who was wearing an American Flag? Well? God bless him/her.

609 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:25:12am

re: #605 Decatur Deb

Thanks--bookmarked.

He got excited telling me about the time he and surviving member of his ship were invited by the Navy for a ceremony in DC. I just sat there in awe while he went on and on about his experiences.

610 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:25:19am

re: #607 Locker

Syracuse haters everywhere. No love for the Orangemen.

Well, they always seem to choke at the Big Dance.

611 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:25:28am

re: #599 reine.de.tout

I like to celebrate Meixcan Heritage Day by turning my hand into a Jennifer Lopez puppet.

Taco flavored keeses!

612 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:25:39am

re: #610 Cannadian Club Akbar

Well, they always seem to choke at the Big Dance.

I had a girlfriend like that once...

613 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:25:54am

re: #611 Mad Al-Jaffee

I like to celebrate Meixcan Heritage Day by turning my hand into a Jennifer Lopez puppet.

Taco flavored keeses!

Oh Kyle, why you no like me?

614 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:26:21am

re: #602 Cannadian Club Akbar

Why not where orange?

Republican/Loyalist crap from (Northern) Ireland--orange is the historical color of the Loyalists. People have died over Orange/Green.

615 reine.de.tout  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:26:37am

re: #596 Decatur Deb

Probably so, but kids are smart enough to put them in an impossible position. Most of the "outrage" stories coming out of our schools are massive simplifications, either through lazy journalism or partisan manipulation. Because kids are involved, all buttons are "Hot".

I have to wonder what the administration would have done if the kids wearing the US flag shirts had complained that they were offended by the celebration of a Mexican Heritage Day? Would the kids of Mexican heritage have been sent home? Or would the complainers have been sent home? Why is it a complaint one way results in kids being sent home, but a complaint the other way could have resulted in the SAME kids being sent home?

I don't care whose flag anybody wears on their clothes, or who celebrates what. It does bother me that certain rights (to wear what they want to school, since there's no indication anybody violated the school's dress policy) are so sacred one way, but not the other.

616 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:27:15am

re: #602 Cannadian Club Akbar

Why not where orange?

Irish colors?

Brings me to my second point... The don't remove American Flags from the Route of a St Paddy's day parade.

I wonder if the High School took down their American Flag for a day.

617 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:27:18am

re: #614 Decatur Deb

I did not know that.

618 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:27:29am

re: #613 Locker

Oh Kyle, why you no like me?

Sa'right?

619 laZardo  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:28:18am

re: #611 Mad Al-Jaffee

I like to celebrate Meixcan Heritage Day by turning my hand into a Jennifer Lopez puppet.

Taco flavored keeses!

Hey, go easy on her. She had to date someone with Torsonic Polarity Syndrome.

620 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:28:21am

re: #618 Mad Al-Jaffee

Sa'right?

Sal'right!

621 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:28:30am

re: #617 Cannadian Club Akbar

I did not know that.

Syracuse Orange Men?

Another word is "The Fighting Irish of Syracuse University".

622 Ericus58  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:29:16am

re: #597 Decatur Deb

Note "a" Mexican heritage day. There are Boston high schools where you don't wear orange on 17 March.

But the wearing of Orange does represent the clash of a specific group of people against another - most notably being violent.

Wearing attire that represents the flag of a Nation that these kids live in specifically should not be seen nor interpreted in the same light.

May 5th may be a national holiday in some countries, but not here in America.

623 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:29:33am

re: #621 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sorry. I could be wrong.

There are lovely orange groves in the Syracuse, NY areas.

624 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:29:56am

Now you fools got that freaking song stuck in my head.

Don't be fooled by all my money
I still like to eat tacos honey
So crispy on the outside
So super good and yummy

625 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:30:30am

re: #615 reine.de.tout

I have to wonder what the administration would have done if the kids wearing the US flag shirts had complained that they were offended by the celebration of a Mexican Heritage Day? Would the kids of Mexican heritage have been sent home? Or would the complainers have been sent home? Why is it a complaint one way results in kids being sent home, but a complaint the other way could have resulted in the SAME kids being sent home?

I don't care whose flag anybody wears on their clothes, or who celebrates what. It does bother me that certain rights (to wear what they want to school, since there's no indication anybody violated the school's dress policy) are so sacred one way, but not the other.

We always get part of the story. Our AL highschool has such a fear of gang activity that the cheerleaders are not permitted to wear the school colors in some situations. That's what happens with zero-tolerance thinking.

626 reine.de.tout  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:30:39am

re: #608 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh, I'm guessing (I admit, I'm guessing) the Admin made some kind of big deal with the Anglo kids that this is a special day for the Hispanic kids. And to show some respect.

The kids, being smart-ass kids wore their American flags (for the first time in their lives, to be buttholes about it)...

That being said, they are in America, and they can wear the American flag if the damn well please.

If one Hispanic kid was wearing a Mexican Flag emblem, the kids had a right to wear the American Flag emblem.

Now, the Hispanic kid who was wearing an American Flag? Well? God bless him/her.

I agree.
If the kids were being assholes (and perhaps they were), but they didn't violate the school's dress code or instructions for that day, then the onus is on everybody else to just ignore the assholes. I do it every day.

627 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:30:41am

re: #622 Ericus58

But the wearing of Orange does represent the clash of a specific group of people against another - most notably being violent.

Wearing attire that represents the flag of a Nation that these kids live in specifically should not be seen nor interpreted in the same light.

May 5th may be a national holiday in some countries, but not here in America.

I am wearing an orange shirt to work today. Are there any places I should avoid?

628 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:30:42am

re: #624 Locker

Now you fools got that freaking song stuck in my head.

Ooooh, Ben, I love you so much
You almost make me forget about tacos

629 laZardo  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:31:31am

re: #624 Locker

Now you fools got that freaking song stuck in my head.

:3

630 MandyManners  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:31:40am
631 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:32:18am

re: #622 Ericus58

I said the Admins might be brain-dead. They also might know a lot about the specific kids that we aren't learning from the news media.

632 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:32:50am

re: #628 Mad Al-Jaffee

Ooooh, Ben, I love you so much
You almost make me forget about tacos

I think I'm going to have to hit the taco truck for lunch. 1 dollar (no tax) street tacos. Carne Asada plus onion and cilantro. Mmmm I could eat about 6 today I think. Northgate Blvd in Sacramento if you happen to be a local.

633 vinnievin  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:33:07am

morning all

it is hard getting to a thread late and starting through 600 comments, responding to people who aren't even here. sigh.

634 reine.de.tout  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:33:17am

re: #625 Decatur Deb

We always get part of the story. Our AL highschool has such a fear of gang activity that the cheerleaders are not permitted to wear the school colors in some situations. That's what happens with zero-tolerance thinking.

Yes, you're right, we only get part of the story.
There may have been other behavior not discussed in the article because the school keeps that sort of thing confidential, who knows?

I should just chill . . .

635 Lidane  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:33:18am

re: #611 Mad Al-Jaffee

Except that Jennifer Lopez is Puerto Rican, taco flavored keeses notwithstanding. ;)

636 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:33:39am

re: #633 vinnievin

morning all

it is hard getting to a thread late and starting through 600 comments, responding to people who aren't even here. sigh.

Pretend it's Playboy magazine. Start from the back (bottom) and work in reverse.

637 lostlakehiker  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:34:02am

re: #542 laZardo

Philippine Presidential Elections are on Monday. As it happens, I'm actually gonna go out and vote.

Hopefully I won't end up in Gitmo for voting in two different countries.

You won't get caught. But really, you shouldn't. If you're an American, you're not bound up in the destiny of the Philippines to where you should be making decisions that those with all their skin in that one game must live with. If you're Filipino, then the same goes for voting in the U.S. Either way, it's not fair to the people whose futures are on the line to have to pool their votes with people like you who can afford to be a bit casual about the consequences of the election. This goes deeper than the rational mind. Your fellow countrymen, whichever country that is, need your gut decision.

638 reine.de.tout  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:34:26am

re: #611 Mad Al-Jaffee

I like to celebrate Meixcan Heritage Day by turning my hand into a Jennifer Lopez puppet.

Taco flavored keeses!

What is it you're gonna do with that Jennifer Lopez hand puppet?

639 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:34:53am

re: #635 Lidane

Except that Jennifer Lopez is Puerto Rican, taco flavored keeses notwithstanding. ;)

I ain't no Mexican, I'm Puerto Rican!

Actually I think the "new" Jennifer Lopez is Mexican. That ghetto trash who never should have been signed in the first place is a Rican.

640 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:35:01am

re: #632 Locker

I think I'm going to have to hit the taco truck for lunch. 1 dollar (no tax) street tacos. Carne Asada plus onion and cilantro. Mmmm I could eat about 6 today I think. Northgate Blvd in Sacramento if you happen to be a local.

I wish we had more of them in DC. There's a couple around, but not near work. There is a little taqueria a couple of blocks away. You can get a decent lunch there for around $5. I think I'm going to get some Peruvian chicken tonight for dinner. Half a grilled chicken and two sides for around $8. And I can get 3 meals out of that.

641 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:35:55am

re: #640 Mad Al-Jaffee

I wish we had more of them in DC. There's a couple around, but not near work. There is a little taqueria a couple of blocks away. You can get a decent lunch there for around $5. I think I'm going to get some Peruvian chicken tonight for dinner. Half a grilled chicken and two sides for around $8. And I can get 3 meals out of that.

What's the side with the Peruvian chicken? Rice? Man I could handle some of that with a stack of warm flat bread and some hot stuff.

642 vinnievin  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:36:10am

re: #636 Locker

Pretend it's Playboy magazine. Start from the back (bottom) and work in reverse.

Reading the comments about the original post so far, I am not sure it is even worth it to get into. Looks like people are pretty entrenched about what they believe.

I don't consider myself entrenched, but I am stubborn as hell and influencing me takes more effort than many are willing to apply. Not to say I don't have an open mind ... just not as naive as I used to be.

643 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:36:12am

re: #635 Lidane

Except that Jennifer Lopez is Puerto Rican, taco flavored keeses notwithstanding. ;)

I know. And that's one of the reasons that South Park episode is so funny.

644 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:36:41am

I just tried to find Lee Greenwood's "God Bless the USA" sung in Spanish on YouTube... Thought'd it would be hysterical.

They had a Beyonce' version with a Spanish translation printed on it.

Since I love and respect you guys, I didn't link it. It was "teh suck".

645 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:36:48am

re: #641 Locker

What's the side with the Peruvian chicken? Rice? Man I could handle some of that with a stack of warm flat bread and some hot stuff.

I usually get black beans and rice.

646 Ericus58  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:37:27am

re: #627 NJDhockeyfan

I am wearing an orange shirt to work today. Are there any places I should avoid?

You sir, get a free pass.

Today only.

After that, Thor's Hammer will fall upon your head.

647 MandyManners  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:37:41am

re: #639 Locker

BTW, something has been bugging me about your attack on me the other day. You accused me of posting links to increase my post count.

Click on my avatar. I don't need to worry about my post count so, kiss my ass.

648 Cato the Elder  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:37:44am

In Baltimore the education news is that the school system's head guy (I believe they call him a CEO these days instead of superintendent, it sounds so much more businesslike, doesn't it?) says children who bully cannot be suspended, much less expelled. Here they won't even expel kids who commit arson.

I think a lot of things would change if the "obligation to educate" were reserved for kids who prove themselves to be educable.

649 laZardo  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:37:58am

re: #637 lostlakehiker

You won't get caught. But really, you shouldn't. If you're an American, you're not bound up in the destiny of the Philippines to where you should be making decisions that those with all their skin in that one game must live with. If you're Filipino, then the same goes for voting in the U.S. Either way, it's not fair to the people whose futures are on the line to have to pool their votes with people like you who can afford to be a bit casual about the consequences of the election. This goes deeper than the rational mind. Your fellow countrymen, whichever country that is, need your gut decision.

It's really hard trying to 'balance' what I'm "supposed to be" given that my Great-grandparents fought in the Philippine Revolution (although from what I hear they retired to private life before the American war). Given that both America and the Philippines have shared their heritages, it's actually hard not to be so casual about it.

Of course, this is Philippine politics, mind. Adlai Stevenson infamously said that "having the thinking man's vote is nice but I need a majority to win," and every three years it shows here.

650 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:38:00am

re: #642 vinnievin

Reading the comments about the original post so far, I am not sure it is even worth it to get into. Looks like people are pretty entrenched about what they believe.

I don't consider myself entrenched, but I am stubborn as hell and influencing me takes more effort than many are willing to apply. Not to say I don't have an open mind ... just not as naive as I used to be.

Yea I used to do that but it gets too frustrating when I want to fight about something that happened last night and all the participants are either asleep, at work or hung over.

Much more fun to get in the mix right away and then browse at my leisure...

651 lostlakehiker  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:38:02am

re: #291 Slumbering Behemoth

Only poseurs and posturing fools openly discuss such possessions. The dumbest and loosest of lips. Not even my closest, must trusted friends are privy to the kinds ordinance I posses.

Which, for the record, is none at all.

Boasting of being unarmed is probably about as imprudent as boasting of being armed. I figure, don't ask, don't tell. The public isn't inside the need to know circle.

652 Lidane  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:38:29am

Morning, Lizards! The stench of fail is ripe this morning:

Brown to co-sponsor terrorism bill

Senator Scott Brown tomorrow is signing on to legislation that would strip naturalized Americans of their citizenship if they are found to have aided a foreign terrorist organization.

Brown is joining three other lawmakers in filing the legislation, which comes after Faisal Shehzad was accused of a plot to detonate a car bomb in Times Square on Saturday. Because the Pakistani-born Shehzad is a naturalized American citizen, he was read his Miranda rights and will be tried in a civilian court, rather than before a military tribunal.

The legislation is likely to trigger debate over what rights American citizens should be afforded if they are involved in acts of terrorism. Senator John McCain has called it a mistake to have read Shehzad his Miranda rights, while Fox News commentator Glenn Beck said, "He has all the rights under the Constitution. We don’t shred the Constitution when it’s popular.”

The others sponsoring the bill are Senator Joseph Lieberman, a Connecticut Independent; Representative Jason Altmire, a Democrat of Pennsylvania; and Representative Charlie Dent, a Republican of Pennsylvania.

The four will hold a press conference tomorrow to announce the legislation, called the Terrorist Expatriation Act.

Terrorist Expatriation Act? I'm sure that's just a coincidence.

Also, when Glenn Beck sounds like the reasonable one in this scenario, it's time to give up and call it a day.

653 Ericus58  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:38:58am

re: #630 MandyManners

Happy Birthday, George!

Put yer bib on already......

;)

654 reine.de.tout  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:39:15am

re: #644 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I just tried to find Lee Greenwood's "God Bless the USA" sung in Spanish on YouTube... Thought'd it would be hysterical.

They had a Beyonce' version with a Spanish translation printed on it.

Since I love and respect you guys, I didn't link it. It was "teh suck".

There's a silly song called "Don't Mess with my Toot-Toot". In Mexico once, I heard it being sung in Spanish. I was ROFL.

655 vinnievin  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:39:33am

re: #650 Locker

Yea I used to do that but it gets too frustrating when I want to fight about something that happened last night and all the participants are either asleep, at work or hung over.

Much more fun to get in the mix right away and then browse at my leisure...

Okay, I like those carne asada tacos with cilantro and onions too. And lime. Was this awesome little mexican fod stand in norcross (near atlanta) that I frequented constantly. Miss it.

And taco-flavored kisses crack me up. Long live South Park!!!

656 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:39:39am

re: #638 reine.de.tout

What is it you're gonna do with that Jennifer Lopez hand puppet?

Geeve you taco flavored keeses!!!!

657 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:40:04am

re: #648 Cato the Elder

In Baltimore the education news is that the school system's head guy (I believe they call him a CEO these days instead of superintendent, it sounds so much more businesslike, doesn't it?) says children who bully cannot be suspended, much less expelled. Here they won't even expel kids who commit arson.

I think a lot of things would change if the "obligation to educate" were reserved for kids who prove themselves to be educable.

Yea I think we should increase the parallel education tracks and you participate in what you can handle. Can't get along with the normal math and science crowd? All good we'll put you in Advanced Coal Careers 101.

658 Lidane  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:40:15am

re: #643 Mad Al-Jaffee

I know. And that's one of the reasons that South Park episode is so funny.

Oh I know. I died laughing when she comes into the episode pointing out that she's Puerto Rican and not Mexican. Funny stuff.

659 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:40:31am

re: #654 reine.de.tout

There's a silly song called "Don't Mess with my Toot-Toot". In Mexico once, I heard it being sung in Spanish. I was ROFL.

I heard the zydeco version of that. I love the song.

660 Renaissance_Man  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:41:03am

re: #626 reine.de.tout

I agree.
If the kids were being assholes (and perhaps they were), but they didn't violate the school's dress code or instructions for that day, then the onus is on everybody else to just ignore the assholes. I do it every day.

Oh, I don't know. If someone is an asshole in the workplace, it's the job of management to do or say something. That's part of management's function - to assist workplace harmony by controlling or weeding out assholes.

Something's funny about this story. I don't think even the most namby-pamby PC unicorn-riding teacher would start something out of nothing and ask kids to go home just for wearing Old Navy T-shirts. This sounds like a whole lot of spin and a whole lot of crap. It sounds, frankly, like two ethnic groups of kids getting into a pissing match at school, and the jawing starting to become nationalistic, and the teacher picking one group, possibly the wrong group, and ending the situation. Then Johnny goes home to his parents and tells them that the teacher sent him home for wearing a flag shirt. Then some reporter comes and asks Anita, who is 15 and has no clear memory of anything beyond the latest Timberlake CD or whatever, and who thus responds with some vague recollection of the white kids at school getting all up in the Mexican kids' faces about something nationalistic. And in the current climate of immigration and nationalistic sensitivity, someone decides it'll make a story.

661 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:41:13am

re: #648 Cato the Elder

In Baltimore the education news is that the school system's head guy (I believe they call him a CEO these days instead of superintendent, it sounds so much more businesslike, doesn't it?) says children who bully cannot be suspended, much less expelled. Here they won't even expel kids who commit arson.

I think a lot of things would change if the "obligation to educate" were reserved for kids who prove themselves to be educable.

I think the driving language is "Free and appropriate" education. If we stare at the word "appropriate" very hard, there might be an answer.

"Pyro, we've decided it's appropriate for you to learn how to make license plates."

662 reine.de.tout  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:41:53am

re: #659 NJDhockeyfan

I heard the zydeco version of that. I love the song.

Don't Mess with My Toot-Toot.

663 Daniel Ballard  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:42:12am

re: #606 lostlakehiker

Nice post. You show the departure point for protest signs and rhetoric and real intent. Post wing thought-Your rhetoric obscures your goal. The Tea Party and others (they know who they are) should take note.

664 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:42:22am

re: #656 Mad Al-Jaffee

Geeve you taco flavored keeses!!!

Hennifer would you like to give Reine a kiss?
Oh Si, Si, Si! She's so handsome!

665 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:42:46am

re: #659 NJDhockeyfan

Me too!

666 reine.de.tout  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:42:57am

re: #660 Renaissance_Man

Oh, I don't know. If someone is an asshole in the workplace, it's the job of management to do or say something. That's part of management's function - to assist workplace harmony by controlling or weeding out assholes.

Something's funny about this story. I don't think even the most namby-pamby PC unicorn-riding teacher would start something out of nothing and ask kids to go home just for wearing Old Navy T-shirts. This sounds like a whole lot of spin and a whole lot of crap. It sounds, frankly, like two ethnic groups of kids getting into a pissing match at school, and the jawing starting to become nationalistic, and the teacher picking one group, possibly the wrong group, and ending the situation. Then Johnny goes home to his parents and tells them that the teacher sent him home for wearing a flag shirt. Then some reporter comes and asks Anita, who is 15 and has no clear memory of anything beyond the latest Timberlake CD or whatever, and who thus responds with some vague recollection of the white kids at school getting all up in the Mexican kids' faces about something nationalistic. And in the current climate of immigration and nationalistic sensitivity, someone decides it'll make a story.

Ren-Man, once again you are calm and rational. So glad you're here.

667 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:43:26am

re: #659 NJDhockeyfan

I heard the zydeco version of that. I love the song.

I've seen Denise LaSalle sing it at a blues festival.

Speaking of zydeco, Roy Carrier died this week.

[Link: blogs.miaminewtimes.com...]

668 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:44:02am

re: #661 Decatur Deb

I think the driving language is "Free and appropriate" education. If we stare at the word "appropriate" very hard, there might be an answer.

"Pyro, we've decided it's appropriate for you to learn how to make license plates."

Medic! (In an extremely muffled voice)

Anyone who gets that joke, give me your steam id asap.

669 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:44:14am

re: #666 reine.de.tout

Ren-Man, once again you are calm and rational. So glad you're here.

I just brought him here to fill in my blanks.

670 Lidane  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:44:34am
671 vinnievin  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:45:02am

Courtesy of formerspook - 'Pass the Tinfoil"

[Link: www.resistnet.com...]

US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig

672 laZardo  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:45:08am

re: #661 Decatur Deb

I think the driving language is "Free and appropriate" education. If we stare at the word "appropriate" very hard, there might be an answer.

"Pyro, we've decided it's appropriate for you to learn how to make license plates."

Back in 7th grade when all the "homeroom" classes were entered into the intramural volleyball league, I had that printed as my nickname on my jersey.

WHO'S MAKING LICENSE PLATES NOW?

:D

673 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:45:17am

re: #663 Rightwingconspirator

Nice post. You show the departure point for protest signs and rhetoric and real intent. Post wing thought-Your rhetoric obscures your goal. The Tea Party and others (they know who they are) should take note.

And thank you for pointing out his/her post... which I had missed. It was, indeed, a good one.

674 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:45:26am

"Jennifer Lopez": Mmm, tacos! So yummy!
Kyle: Stop wasting the tacos on your hand, Cartman!
Cartman: Hey, Ms. Lopez has to eat, too.
Kyle: She's not eating it, it's just coming out her backside!
"Jennifer Lopez": When you eat a taco it comes out your backside too, cholo!

675 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:45:38am

re: #662 reine.de.tout

I. can. not. believe. I've. never. tied. that. song. to. your. nic.

676 laZardo  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:46:15am

re: #668 Locker

Medic! (In an extremely muffled voice)

Anyone who gets that joke, give me your steam id asap.

Check my nic. Don't ask, I was extremely weeaboo back when I made the name back in 2004.

I suck horribly at the game you're mentioning though, and I removed it a few months ago to save space on my old-ass dell.

677 reine.de.tout  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:46:37am

re: #675 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I. can. not. believe. I've. never. tied. that. song. to. your. nic.

heh.
Me either, to tell the truth.

678 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:46:41am

re: #660 Renaissance_Man

That post pissed excellence.

679 laZardo  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:46:52am

re: #676 laZardo

Hmm, nicfail.

It's Ki84Hayate. Yes, after the plane nicknamed "Frank."

680 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:46:54am

re: #671 vinnievin

Courtesy of formerspook - 'Pass the Tinfoil"

[Link: www.resistnet.com...]

US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig

Wow!! I love crazy people. I really do.

681 vinnievin  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:48:36am

re: #680 Cannadian Club Akbar

Wow!! I love crazy people. I really do.


I like some of the posts on his (or her) site: formerspook.blogspot.com

682 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:50:07am

re: #676 laZardo

Check my nic. Don't ask, I was extremely weeaboo back when I made the name back in 2004.

I suck horribly at the game you're mentioning though, and I removed it a few months ago to save space on my old-ass dell.

I was completely distracted by your deviant art profile. Cool stuff man, my kid submits there from time to time.

683 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:50:15am

re: #680 Cannadian Club Akbar

Wow!! I love crazy people. I really do.

(shhh. since the government has put a black-out on it, there is no way that we can do proper citizen followup. no.. put your tinfoil hat back on!)

684 prairiefire  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:50:50am

Branding Obama a "socialist" = fail:[Link: people-press.org...]

685 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:50:54am

re: #678 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That post pissed excellence.

Sir you have a most unique grasp on the English language. One which I sincerely appreciate.

686 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:51:19am

re: #681 vinnievin

I like some of the posts on his (or her) site: formerspook.blogspot.com

The comment section is scary.

687 lawhawk  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:51:56am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. The investigation into the TS bombing continues, and the links to Pakistan's Taliban are growing, which isn't much of a surprise. What also isn't surprising is that some politicians are using this as an excuse to try and revoke citizenship of US citizens suspected of being terrorists.

Frakking maroons.

The appropriate thing to do is charge them with treason. You know, the crime that's specifically included in the US Constitution to deal with these scenarios. Instead of creating still more laws that are likely unconstitutional, enforce the ones that are on the books - and in the US Constitution.

Oh, and Shahzad turned out to be even more bumbling than suspected; he left the keys to his getaway car in the Pathfinder, meaning that investigators had yet another piece of evidence to tie Shahzad back to the attack.

688 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:52:11am

re: #685 Locker

Sir you have a most unique grasp on the English language. One which I sincerely appreciate.

689 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:52:39am

re: #685 Locker

Sir you have a most unique grasp on the English language. One which I sincerely appreciate.

It's on a tee-shirt already!

690 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:53:35am

re: #687 lawhawk

I won't type the fucker's name. WEC,G is what I am going to use.

691 reine.de.tout  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:53:59am

re: #683 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

(shhh. since the government has put a black-out on it, there is no way that we can do proper citizen followup. no.. put your tinfoil hat back on!)



How to Make a Tin Foil Hat

692 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:54:31am

re: #687 lawhawk

I love your good mornings but today I keep seeing you as a:

"47-year-old virgin, sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing, "I'm an Oscar Meyer wiener.""


(Greetings and Salutations. I'm associate Bob!)

693 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:55:26am

re: #684 prairiefire

Excellent article, though "Family Values" might have slipped a bit in the recent charts.

694 laZardo  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:55:55am

re: #682 Locker

I was completely distracted by your deviant art profile. Cool stuff man, my kid submits there from time to time.

Thankee. I've also got a serious-art portfolio.

695 lawhawk  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:56:47am

re: #692 Locker

Funny, but greets and saluts is short for greetings and salutations and something I picked up from the movie Pump Up the Volume with Christian Slater (and I can do a pretty decent impression).

696 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:57:00am

re: #692 Locker

My father got a letter once that started with "Greetings and Salutations". It was from the gubment. He had been drafted.

697 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:57:21am

re: #695 lawhawk

Funny, but greets and saluts is short for greetings and salutations and something I picked up from the movie Pump Up the Volume with Christian Slater (and I can do a pretty decent impression).

Great movie. Often wanted my own local radio station.

698 Daniel Ballard  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:57:34am

re: #691 reine.de.tout

We just got word our cookbooks are on the way. We'll take one to the grocery store and pick a dinner first thing.

699 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:57:55am

re: #695 lawhawk

Funny, but greets and saluts is short for greetings and salutations and something I picked up from the movie Pump Up the Volume with Christian Slater (and I can do a pretty decent impression).

I think you mean Heathers.

700 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:58:16am

re: #695 lawhawk

Funny, but greets and saluts is short for greetings and salutations and something I picked up from the movie Pump Up the Volume with Christian Slater (and I can do a pretty decent impression).

My quote was from Demolition Man if no one got it. Sorry but that movie kills me?

What's my boggle? ... How much do you weigh?

701 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 6, 2010 6:59:32am

re: #694 laZardo

Cool portfolio. One of us has to warp Charles new link feature to Lizard Photography.

702 lawhawk  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:00:19am

re: #699 Mad Al-Jaffee

I was pretty sure he did it in Pump Up the Volume, but I know he did the line in Heathers too (and a great flick - Wynona was awesome!) If not, then I'm conflating the two movies a bit...

703 PAUL_MACDONALD  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:00:27am

re: #606 lostlakehiker

Economists talk about 'revealed preferences'. You can look at peoples' behavior and discern what they really really want. In this case, I'd say what the tea party movement wants is lower taxes and smaller government, not civil war.

They've taken no steps toward civil war, nor toward a putsch. There may be several reasons for this, and one of them surely is that it wouldn't stand a chance. We all know this. They know it too. But another reason is probably that that's not what they want anyhow. What does stand a chance is the project of electing some candidates who don't have a long track record in politics and who would be less likely to acculturate to the Washington way of doing things. They'd be less likely to go along to get along, and they'd be steadfast in voting against further expansions to big government.
.

If that were the case, they would have been out in force during the Bush years. They get to hide behind the rhetoric of "lower taxes and smaller government" because they really have a problem with a black guy being president.

It's fairly clear that the tea partiers and their candidates have nothing concrete in the realm of how and what to cut.

704 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:00:44am

re: #671 vinnievin

Courtesy of formerspook - 'Pass the Tinfoil"

[Link: www.resistnet.com...]

US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig

Riiiight, because we all know how easy it is to shut up the news networks, the news sites, and the bloggers in this country, don't we?

About the only thing that absolutely guarantees something going completely viral is any type of interference by the government in it's reporting.

But I really like the craziness there, especially since they are one of the nutters outright calling for a thermonuclear weapon to be used to stop the leaking oil. As if that wouldn't produce it's own environmental concerns while doing nothing to the slick already on the surface...

705 vinnievin  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:01:26am

re: #686 Cannadian Club Akbar

The comment section is scary.

Sometimes the comment section here is scary.

706 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:02:22am

re: #685 Locker

From Talladega Nights

Ricky: Well, Dick, here's the deal: I'm the best there is, plain and simple. I mean, I wake up in the morning and I piss excellence. You know, nobody can hang with my stuff. I'm just a--just a big, hairy, American winning machine. If you ain't first, you're last! You know? You know what I mean? That phrase is trademarked and not to be used without the expressed permission of Ricky Bobby, Inc.

707 reine.de.tout  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:03:28am

re: #698 Rightwingconspirator

We just got word our cookbooks are on the way. We'll take one to the grocery store and pick a dinner first thing.

I got mine yesterday.
You'll really like it.
Killgore's gardening section is really good, he did a great job.
The recipes are good, we have a good selection of various things.
Jaunte's artwork, INSIDE as well on the cover, is superb. And his assistant George G did a heckuva job putting it all together.

We've sold 23 books thus far!
Anyone wanting to check it out can find the link button here. For Volume 2, it's the orange LULU button.

708 vinnievin  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:03:31am

re: #704 ausador

Riiight, because we all know how easy it is to shut up the news networks, the news sites, and the bloggers in this country, don't we?

About the only thing that absolutely guarantees something going completely viral is any type of interference by the government in it's reporting.

But I really like the craziness there, especially since they are one of the nutters outright calling for a thermonuclear weapon to be used to stop the leaking oil. As if that wouldn't produce it's own environmental concerns while doing nothing to the slick already on the surface...

The original source of the story is Russia. I stopped researching after I got to resistnet - but I find it both amusing and the epitome of a conspiracy theory.

709 Digital Display  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:04:14am

re: #698 Rightwingconspirator

We just got word our cookbooks are on the way. We'll take one to the grocery store and pick a dinner first thing.

I'm hoping mine comes in the mail today!
Good Morning Lizards!

710 steve_davis  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:04:29am

I think it's great that the one poster is planning to bring his "two small children." Perhaps they can be put to work proofreading all the signs.

711 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:04:47am

re: #709 HoosierHoops

hey!

712 Digital Display  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:05:42am

re: #711 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

hey!

Good Morning Veggie....I need to find a good movie to watch today

713 steve_davis  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:06:03am

re: #11 b_sharp

Ewww.

Or even worse, Malkin's balls into Limbaugh's mouth.

Those aren't balls. They're just really hairy, hangin' ovaries.

714 vinnievin  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:06:57am

re: #710 steve_davis

if only they had someone mass-producing the signs and handing them out. sincerity and typos cannot mix.
/

715 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:07:37am

re: #712 HoosierHoops

I think it'd be a good day to re-watch 12 Monkeys, if you've already seen it.

"Burn After Reading" and "The Men Who Stare At Goats" are also well worth the time. Quirky and fun and interesting.

716 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:08:11am

re: #713 steve_davis

Okay. That was disgusting.

717 darthstar  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:09:05am

re: #687 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. The investigation into the TS bombing continues, and the links to Pakistan's Taliban are growing, which isn't much of a surprise. What also isn't surprising is that some politicians are using this as an excuse to try and revoke citizenship of US citizens suspected of being terrorists.

Good morning back, and good morning to everyone else. Fear not, lawhawk. While the no-fly list is safe and suspected terrorists of alleged activities could lose their US citizenship if Lieberman and McCain get their way, Lindsey Graham is there to protect their rights to buy firearms. In fact, 1100 people on the no-fly list have bought firearms the last six years and one guy bought 50 lbs of military grade explosives...see? The Second Amendment is still sacred!

718 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:09:20am

re: #715 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I think it'd be a good day to re-watch 12 Monkeys, if you've already seen it.

"Burn After Reading" and "The Men Who Stare At Goats" are also well worth the time. Quirky and fun and interesting.

I think The Pentagon Wars is much more fun ;)

719 laZardo  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:09:31am

re: #698 Rightwingconspirator

Shit, I still have to order mine. Just need to figure out if the exchange rate is friendly...

720 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:09:48am

I just got a really exciting email:

I am Helena Ethan, a Christian.I have picked you for an inheritance of £ 1.2 million Pounds. Please contact me for more details via email

I know it's legit, because she's a Christian and not emailing me from Nigeria!

721 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:10:48am

re: #712 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Veggie...I need to find a good movie to watch today

Have you ever seen Sullivan's Travels?

722 laZardo  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:11:46am
The U.S. Embassy reminds U.S. citizens in the Philippines that sporadic violence may occur throughout the Philippines before, during, and after the May 10 Philippine national and local elections. U.S. citizens should pay attention to the media for Philippine government announcements regarding areas likely to experience election-related violence. U.S. citizens living and working in the Philippines are urged to assess their personal security, to remain aware of their surroundings, to keep a low profile, and to avoid public gathering places, including high-profile events, in connection with the May 10 elections.

A political or other demonstration could materialize on fairly short notice. If and when you do learn of a demonstration, please plan your travel accordingly: avoid crowds and exercise caution when traveling in the vicinity of a demonstration. As a reminder, even demonstrations intended to be peaceful can turn confrontational and possibly escalate into violence. U.S. citizens are therefore urged to avoid the areas of demonstrations if possible, and to exercise caution if within the vicinity of any demonstrations.

Well hell, and I was planning on attending the miting de avance (final campaign rally) of my candidate tomorrow. q;

723 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:11:51am

re: #718 Locker

I started watching it and stopped. So...

Neener.

724 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:11:59am

re: #712 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Veggie...I need to find a good movie to watch today

And if your in the mood for something a little more... tranquil... I still love Local Hero every time I see it.

725 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:12:10am

re: #721 Mad Al-Jaffee

Have you ever seen Sullivan's Travels?

Next he's going to ask you if you like gladiator movies...

726 Digital Display  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:12:19am

re: #721 Mad Al-Jaffee

Have you ever seen Sullivan's Travels?

No..I'll check it if it's available...I got a thousand channels and there is nothing on...:)

727 lawhawk  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:12:22am

If fighting the oil spill in the Gulf isn't bad enough, some of the cleanup methods are apparently worse. Besides the notion of burning off the oil (which increases emission/pollutants into the atmosphere), various other methods introduce hazardous chemicals into the water.

Even in the best cases, dispersants are applied in what might be termed a lose-lose strategy. Scientists make the calculation that it is better to have the ocean filled with low concentrations of the dispersant chemicals — which are in themselves mild to moderate poisons — than to have dense oil on the surface or washing up onshore, places where it is most likely to harm wildlife.

Necessary evil?
And while most environmentalists support the application of dispersants as a necessary evil to limit the damage, some have assailed an industry policy that guards their chemical makeup. Keeping the exact mix secret makes it harder to evaluate the risks to marine ecosystems and to know what side effects to look for as the crisis unfolds.

What is more, the main dispersants applied so far, from a product line called Corexit, had their approval rescinded in Britain a decade ago because laboratory tests found them harmful to sea life that inhabits rocky shores, like limpets, said Mark Kirby, a scientific adviser to the British government on the testing, use and approval of oil spill treatment options.

Given that spills happen frequently (but a lot less frequently than they used to), and large one can happen, I'm just wondering, how are they supposed to clean up the spill? Harsh language?

In the meantime, one of the capture units is being prepared to be lowered to the leak site in the hopes of capturing the oil before it rises to the surface to join the rest of the massive oil slick.

728 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:12:52am

re: #723 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I started watching it and stopped. So...

Neener.

You made it through burn after reading and not the pentagon wars? Interesting. ;)

729 darthstar  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:13:07am

re: #720 Mad Al-Jaffee

I just got a really exciting email:

I am Helena Ethan, a Christian.I have picked you for an inheritance of £ 1.2 million Pounds. Please contact me for more details via email

I know it's legit, because she's a Christian and not emailing me from Nigeria!

Careful...next thing you know you'll be carrying "her" bags.

730 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:13:30am

re: #710 steve_davis

I think it's great that the one poster is planning to bring his "two small children." Perhaps they can be put to work proofreading all the signs.

I need a "small child" to show me how to use my phancy new fone.

731 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:13:45am

re: #603 laZardo

Orange = Dutch = New York?

/subtle.

Missed this comment earlier. IIRC, there is a Dutch connection--the Loyalists picked up the color in reference to William of Orange.

732 Kruk  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:15:05am

re: #700 Locker

Any movie where Stallone comes *second* in scenary chewing should be avoided at all costs. :)

733 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:15:42am

re: #730 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I need a "small child" to show me how to use my phancy new fone.

I like what you did there.

734 Digital Display  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:15:59am

Crazy Heart was a great movie..Except the ending sucked

735 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:16:10am

re: #724 Locker

And if your in the mood for something a little more... tranquil... I still love Local Hero every time I see it.

Waking Ned Divine...
The Englishman Who Went Up A Hill And Came Down A Mountain...

736 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:16:29am

re: #734 HoosierHoops

Shhh!

737 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:16:33am

re: #732 Kruk

Any movie where Stallone comes *second* in scenary chewing should be avoided at all costs. :)

If Dennis Leary doesn't do it for you and Sandra Bullock in stretch pants isn't enough I don't know what to tell you. Perhaps a meal at Taco Bell...

738 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:16:45am

re: #724 Locker

And if your in the mood for something a little more... tranquil... I still love Local Hero every time I see it.

One of the best ever, and a Mark Knopfler soundtrack.

739 jamesfirecat  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:17:00am

re: #732 Kruk

Any movie where Stallone comes *second* in scenary chewing should be avoided at all costs. :)

What about Under Siege? Tommy Lee Jones is gloriously deranged in that movie compared to how normally stoic he is....

740 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:17:29am

re: #737 Locker

If Dennis Leary doesn't do it for you and Sandra Bullttock in stretch pants isn't enough I don't know what to tell you. Perhaps a meal at Taco Bell...

741 Digital Display  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:17:51am

re: #736 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Shhh!

I can't wait till you see it.. Then we can talk about the ending...

742 Renaissance_Man  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:18:05am
743 Kruk  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:18:15am

re: #739 jamesfirecat

What about Under Siege? Tommy Lee Jones is gloriously deranged in that movie compared to how normally stoic he is...

That was Steven Segal, IIRC.

744 Lidane  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:18:20am

re: #732 Kruk

Any movie where Stallone comes *second* in scenary chewing should be avoided at all costs. :)

Oh, I don't know. I think The Expendables looks like fun:

745 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:18:33am

re: #735 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Waking Ned Divine...
The Englishman Who Went Up A Hill And Came Down A Mountain...

Two winners, and I steal quotes from "Englishman" (Tup, but not so tup...)

746 Digital Display  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:19:09am

re: #743 Kruk

That was Steven Segal, IIRC.

Tommy was the bad guy..Steven was the good guy

747 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:19:11am

re: #743 Kruk

That was Steven Segal, IIRC.

No man Tommy was the bad guy and he was wigged the fuck out.

748 lawhawk  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:19:27am

Former NJ Gov. Jon Corzine is cutting the purse strings to NJ Democrats. For the first time in a decade, no campaign donations (and he was good for $500k or more every year), because his new job at a financial firm may conflict with pay to play rules that NJ adopted while Corzine was in office.

749 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:19:55am

re: #742 Renaissance_Man

Fred Phelps, civil rights hero?

Interesting.

Some rights are more civil than others.

750 jamesfirecat  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:20:13am

re: #743 Kruk

That was Steven Segal, IIRC.

Oh yeah, sorry it's hard to tell those two apart in my head for some reason what with how they're both "double S" (Sylvester Stallone" and "Steven Segal") black haired action movie stars.

751 Kruk  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:20:16am

re: #747 Locker

No man Tommy was the bad guy and he was wigged the fuck out.

Sorry, I meant that movie had Segal rather than Stallone as the hero.

752 lawhawk  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:20:19am

re: #743 Kruk

Tommy Lee Jones was the bad guy in the movie - and he was delightfully deranged (and that's a movie where Jones outchewed the usual scenery chewing of Seagal and Gary Busey).

753 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:20:49am

re: #726 HoosierHoops

No..I'll check it if it's available...I got a thousand channels and there is nothing on...:)

It's one of my favorites. Essential movie, especially if you liked the Coen Brothers' O Brother Where Art Thou.

754 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:20:51am

re: #747 Locker

No man Tommy was the bad guy and he was wigged the fuck out.

Accompanied by Gary Busey playing his normal on-the-edge psychopathic asshole character.

755 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:21:08am

re: #743 Kruk

That was Steven Segal, IIRC.

TLJ was the nutjob who took over the ship.

Character made me think of Powers Boothe as Jim Jones...

756 Digital Display  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:21:24am

re: #752 lawhawk

Tommy Lee Jones was the bad guy in the movie - and he was delightfully deranged (and that's a movie where Jones outchewed the usual scenery chewing of Seagal and Gary Busey).

Busey was completely whacked out in that movie.. I just think he played himself

757 jamesfirecat  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:21:43am

re: #752 lawhawk

Tommy Lee Jones was the bad guy in the movie - and he was delightfully deranged (and that's a movie where Jones outchewed the usual scenery chewing of Seagal and Gary Busey).

Tommy Lee Jones also once out scene chewed Jim Cary.

So how he really can do either end of the spectrum can't he?

758 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:22:00am

re: #734 HoosierHoops

Crazy Heart was a great movie..Except the ending sucked

No it didn't!

759 Digital Display  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:22:04am

re: #753 Mad Al-Jaffee

It's one of my favorites. Essential movie, especially if you liked the Coen Brothers' O Brother Where Art Thou.

Love that movie!

760 Slap  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:23:15am

re: #755 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh, man, that was one SERIOUSLY scary portrayal. I always thought Boothe had gigantic ones for taking on that role, and then turning his full force on it. Amazing.

761 Digital Display  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:23:36am

re: #758 Mad Al-Jaffee

No it didn't!

Yes it did! But I can't say anything cause Veggie hasn't seen it yet..

762 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:24:05am

re: #751 Kruk

Sorry, I meant that movie had Segal rather than Stallone as the hero.

Didn't/doesn't Stallone have fairly major control over the casting of the movies he plays in? If so, that would explain the less likelihood of someone being cast (and a role existing) that could potentially out chew scenery compared to his part. (And the scenery bits caught in his mouth could go a ways in explaining his enunciation problems.)

Note however that Tim Curry does the job in _Oscar_.

763 laZardo  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:24:51am

re: #737 Locker

If Dennis Leary doesn't do it for you and Sandra Bullock in stretch pants isn't enough I don't know what to tell you. Perhaps a meal at Taco Bell...

Every time I watch Demolition Man I keep hearing San Andreas instead of San Angeles.

764 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:25:30am

Avoided daytime long enough--BBL.

765 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:26:02am

re: #763 laZardo

Every time I watch Demolition Man I keep hearing San Andreas instead of San Angeles.

They could chop bits of that movie out and substitute in the video of Grace Jones singing the song and it would be a vast improvement.

766 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:26:29am

re: #761 HoosierHoops

Yes it did! But I can't say anything cause Veggie hasn't seen it yet..

You're damn straight!

767 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:27:28am

heh. I DVR'd The Naked Gun last night...

768 Digital Display  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:27:51am

Zombieland was a funnier than hell movie...

769 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:28:14am

re: #767 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

heh. I DVR'd The Naked Gun last night...

Nice Beaver.

770 laZardo  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:28:16am

re: #768 HoosierHoops

Zombieland was a funnier than hell movie...

Woody Harrelson plays a redneck so well...

771 jamesfirecat  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:29:07am

re: #769 Cannadian Club Akbar

Nice Beaver.

My brother died the exact same way....

772 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:29:08am

re: #769 Cannadian Club Akbar

Nice Beaver.

I just had it stuffed!

773 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:29:08am

re: #582 Decatur Deb

It's some kind of BS, either brain-dead administration or a few punks trying to start shit under a blameless cover. Guess we would have to be there.

My money's on the punks. That's the kind of thing we'd do, back in the day.

William

774 badger1970  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:29:11am

re: #769 Cannadian Club Akbar

Nice Beaver.

Thank you. I just had it stuffed.

775 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:30:00am

re: #768 HoosierHoops

Zombieland was a funnier than hell movie...

I still have the dvd from Netflix and I haven't watched it. I actually read some more of The Walking Dead (zombie comic book) instead of watching the zombie movie last night.

I also got Paranormal Activity. I'll probably watch them both (and more Burn Notice season 2) this weekend.

776 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:32:03am
777 jamesfirecat  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:32:11am

re: #775 Mad Al-Jaffee

I still have the dvd from Netflix and I haven't watched it. I actually read some more of The Walking Dead (zombie comic book) instead of watching the zombie movie last night.

I also got Paranormal Activity. I'll probably watch them both (and more Burn Notice season 2) this weekend.

Welcome to Miami
I like yogurt
Welcome to Miami
I like yogurt
Welcome to Miami
I like yogurt
Welcome to Miami
I like yogurt

(8-bit burn notice)

778 Digital Display  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:32:26am

re: #775 Mad Al-Jaffee

I still have the dvd from Netflix and I haven't watched it. I actually read some more of The Walking Dead (zombie comic book) instead of watching the zombie movie last night.

I also got Paranormal Activity. I'll probably watch them both (and more Burn Notice season 2) this weekend.

Burn notice is one of my favorite shows...
Zombieland turns into a just hilarious movie....The rules are great
Rule #2 Always double tap

779 laZardo  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:32:30am

re: #774 badger1970

Thank you. I just had it stuffed.

EWWWWWW.

/ q;

780 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:34:20am

re: #777 jamesfirecat

Welcome to Miami
I like yogurt
Welcome to Miami
I like yogurt
Welcome to Miami
I like yogurt
Welcome to Miami
I like yogurt

(8-bit burn notice)

Welcome to Miami.
You are charged with DUI.

781 vinnievin  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:35:16am

can't seem to carry a tune here, you guys are singing your own songs so I will go back to spending time with my daughter. turned four weeks old today. bye.

782 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:35:53am

re: #781 vinnievin

Oh. Sorry. You thought we were here for you?

783 Semper Fi  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:36:22am

re: #720 Mad Al-Jaffee

I just got a really exciting email:

I am Helena Ethan, a Christian.I have picked you for an inheritance of £ 1.2 million Pounds. Please contact me for more details via email

I know it's legit, because she's a Christian and not emailing me from Nigeria!

Good morning all.

My goodness. Jump on it. Contact her and provide your bank account number for transfer of funds. Don't forget to ask how much you need to send to make this all happen.
Can I touch you. You're so lucky maybe some will rub off.//

784 Lidane  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:36:24am

re: #775 Mad Al-Jaffee

I still have the dvd from Netflix and I haven't watched it. I actually read some more of The Walking Dead (zombie comic book) instead of watching the zombie movie last night.

If anything Zombieland is a great counterpoint to The Walking Dead. Both feature zombies, but at least Zombieland won't drive you to drink because of all the heavy drama.

Great story, but man, is The Walking Dead depressing as all hell.

785 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:36:24am

re: #602 Cannadian Club Akbar

Since I don't see a /, I'll presume that was serious.

Orange is the color of the Irish protestants - indeed where the very name Orangemen comes from - due to the English King William III of Orange. William's victory over James II at the Battle of the Boyne in 1690 is commemorated by the Orange Institution in Northern Ireland to this day.

Wearing orange on St. Patrick's Day is a very deliberate insult to many Irish Catholics as a result. I had a friend in high school who was the son of a Lutherian minister who would do just that.

William

786 laZardo  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:36:30am

re: #777 jamesfirecat

Welcome to Miami
I like yogurt
Welcome to Miami
I like yogurt
Welcome to Miami
I like yogurt
Welcome to Miami
I like yogurt

But do you scream...

[sunglasses]

...for ice cream?

787 vinnievin  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:38:15am

re: #782 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh. Sorry. You thought we were here for you?

Nope, just hoping to have in-depth discussions on topics other than top movies or taco kisses. I do not need to be entertained.

788 Semper Fi  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:38:34am

re: #783 Semper Fi

Good morning all.

My goodness. Jump on it. Contact her and provide your bank account number for transfer of funds. Don't forget to ask how much you need to send to make this all happen.
Can I touch you. You're so lucky maybe some will rub off.//

I love those emails.

789 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:38:42am

re: #781 vinnievin

Here's a song performed by Groucho Marx:

I don't know what they have to say,
It makes no difference anyway,
Whatever it is, I'm against it.
No matter what it is or who commenced it,
I'm against it.

Your proposition may be good,
But let's have one thing understood,
Whatever it is, I'm against it.
And even when you've changed it or condensed it,
I'm against it.

I'm opposed to it,
On general principle, I'm opposed to it.

[chorus] He's opposed to it.
In fact, indeed, that he's opposed to it!

[Groucho]
For months before my son was born,
I used to yell from night to morn,
Whatever it is, I'm against it.
And I've kept yelling since I first commenced it,
I'm against it!

790 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:38:42am

re: #785 wlewisiii

Yes. I didn't know. Thanks.

791 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:39:11am

re: #787 vinnievin

Wow.

HEY EVERYBODY! THERE'S A NEW ASSHOLE!

792 Digital Display  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:39:54am

re: #781 vinnievin

can't seem to carry a tune here, you guys are singing your own songs so I will go back to spending time with my daughter. turned four weeks old today. bye.

Tell you what...I'll bet that little baby of yours is cuter than heck..Congrads!
OK Lizards..We are transposing the Song Birthday by the Beatles to E flat so everybody can sing along..
And a one..and a two....

793 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:40:00am

re: #784 Lidane

If anything Zombieland is a great counterpoint to The Walking Dead. Both feature zombies, but at least Zombieland won't drive you to drink because of all the heavy drama.

Great story, but man, is The Walking Dead depressing as all hell.

Yeah, it has some of the most disturbing content I've ever read. There might be a tv series based on it, on AMC.

794 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:40:12am

re: #787 vinnievin

Sorry for the snark. The morning threads tend to be a bit "loosy goosy".

You're still being an asshole, but, wanted to let you know.

795 jamesfirecat  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:40:19am

re: #787 vinnievin

Nope, just hoping to have in-depth discussions on topics other than top movies or taco kisses. I do not need to be entertained.

Then pick a topic and start a discussion.

796 laZardo  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:40:24am

Bedtime. Nighty!

797 vinnievin  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:40:50am

re: #791 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wow.

HEY EVERYBODY! THERE'S A NEW ASSHOLE!

and i found an old one. later.

798 Lidane  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:42:59am

re: #793 Mad Al-Jaffee

Yeah, it has some of the most disturbing content I've ever read. There might be a tv series based on it, on AMC.

Oh, the TV series is a definite. Frank Darabont is doing it, and they've been announcing casting for it.

I had thought that putting the show on AMC would make it lose some of the horror, but then I thought about it. You really don't need to show the explicit gore-- the situations are often bad enough, and done right can be just as creepy and disturbing as anything in the books.

799 Semper Fi  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:44:01am

re: #735 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Waking Ned Divine...
The Englishman Who Went Up A Hill And Came Down A Mountain...

Waking Ned Divine. Twice seen and even enjoy thinking about it.

800 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:45:16am

re: #787 vinnievin

Nope, just hoping to have in-depth discussions on topics other than top movies or taco kisses. I do not need to be entertained.

You no like Miss Lopez? Makes me me sooo sad!

801 Digital Display  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:45:31am

re: #787 vinnievin

Nope, just hoping to have in-depth discussions on topics other than top movies or taco kisses. I do not need to be entertained.

Well excuse the hell out of me! Next time you want to go all in depth go for it..
Folks will engage you here big boy...

802 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:46:00am

re: #797 vinnievin

Now, see? That was funny!

803 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:47:05am

re: #799 Semper Fi

Such a happy movie.

804 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:48:01am

re: #798 Lidane


I had thought that putting the show on AMC would make it lose some of the horror, but then I thought about it. You really don't need to show the explicit gore-- the situations are often bad enough, and done right can be just as creepy and disturbing as anything in the books.

AMC does a good job with the violence and gore on Breaking Bad. And they even showed some boobies on it recently! (although it was strippers wearing pasties.) ;)

I've also heard about a proposed movie based on World War Z. I don't know how they would film that book, but I hope they can do it justice.

805 badger1970  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:49:22am

re: #799 Semper Fi

Waking Ned Divine. Twice seen and even enjoy thinking about it.

And the soundtrack is great. The Parting Glass.

806 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:49:29am

Nigel Farage injured in plane crash on election day

The former UK Independence Party (UKIP) leader Nigel Farage has been injured in a plane crash in Northamptonshire.

The plane crashed at Hinton-in-the-Hedges Airfield near Brackley.

Mr Farage is being treated for non-life threatening injuries at John Radcliffe Hospital in Oxford and the pilot is at University Hospital in Coventry.

The aircraft came down an hour after polling stations opened for election voting and it is thought the crash was caused by a trailing UKIP banner.

807 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:54:33am
808 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:58:02am
809 Semper Fi  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:58:10am

re: #803 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Such a happy movie.

The tele booth flying over the cliff with that dear lady to make it all happen. Creative indeed.

810 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:58:51am

Wow.
[Link: www.tmz.com...]

811 Semper Fi  Thu, May 6, 2010 7:59:58am

re: #805 badger1970

And the soundtrack is great. The Parting Glass.

You're right. Excellent sound track. Upbeat and I can still hear it.

812 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:00:03am

re: #808 Mad Al-Jaffee

Nom nom nom

813 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:01:13am

re: #810 Cannadian Club Akbar

814 MrSilverDragon  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:01:34am

Good morning, folks.

"No matter where you go, there you are." -Buckaroo Banzai (although originally stated by Thomas a Kempis apparently, but I like Buck's delivery better).

815 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:02:24am

re: #813 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

[Video]

I love watching kamikaze kitten antics.

816 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:02:32am

re: #787 vinnievin

Nope, just hoping to have in-depth discussions on topics other than top movies or taco kisses. I do not need to be entertained.

Oh vinnievin, why you no like me?

817 CarleeCork  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:02:42am

I watched The Last Samurai again last night. I love that movie.

818 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:03:07am

re: #804 Mad Al-Jaffee

AMC does a good job with the violence and gore on Breaking Bad. And they even showed some boobies on it recently! (although it was strippers wearing pasties.) ;)

I've also heard about a proposed movie based on World War Z. I don't know how they would film that book, but I hope they can do it justice.

Breaking Bad is great. That scene with the 2 brothers, one in the ice chest, was crazy. Can't wait for Sunday.

819 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:03:09am

re: #815 oaktree

Great!

820 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:04:32am

re: #819 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Great!

And then later you realize that it was all psychotic torture cat training disguised as innocent fun!

Sort of like us letting our children run around and shoot other children with toy guns and other weapons...

///

821 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:04:43am

re: #805 badger1970

And the soundtrack is great. The Parting Glass.

822 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:06:48am

re: #820 oaktree

Oh, sorry. I was being sarcastic. You responded to the wrong post, silly.

I'm glad I never make misteaks.

823 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:08:14am

re: #822 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

There's steak?

824 Digital Display  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:08:27am

Breaking News...Lawrence Taylor arrested this morning for raping a 15 yr old girl.

825 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:09:30am

re: #824 HoosierHoops

Breaking News...Lawrence Taylor arrested this morning for raping a 15 yr old girl.

Crazy...

826 Daniel Ballard  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:09:41am

re: #694 laZardo

Some wonderful photography there. Love Staircase

827 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:10:00am

re: #824 HoosierHoops

Breaking News...Lawrence Taylor arrested this morning for raping a 15 yr old girl.

A 15 year old girl? Holy Roman Polanski, Batman!

Spit!

828 badger1970  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:11:19am

A few years ago, the debate on his hall of fame induction with a bit heated over his coke use.

829 Semper Fi  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:11:38am

re: #821 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

[Video]

Thank you. It's beautiful.

830 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:11:53am

re: #824 HoosierHoops

Breaking News...Lawrence Taylor arrested this morning for raping a 15 yr old girl.

The TMZ link I posted didn't mention her age. Wow.

831 Digital Display  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:12:44am

re: #825 Locker

Crazy...

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

Taylor has always had drug issues..Mostly Coke and pot...
Tuna has said his greatest regrets as his coach was never to help him become a good man.. He said He'll never let that happen again

832 abbyadams  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:13:22am

Jumping in a little late, but if you've not seen this (apologies if it's been posted,) it's worth a look.
Tea Party Leader Takes your Questions.


What. A. Joke.

833 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:13:24am

re: #35 NJDhockeyfan

Bill Maher is slamming Islam in CNN right now.

Cooper: "They say Islam is a religion of peace. Do you buy that?"

Maher: "Yeah, they blow you up. There's a piece of you over there. There's a piece of you over there. There's a piece of you over there."

Can that make up for that line after 9/11 that people have been slamming him for for all these years?

834 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:14:10am

re: #825 Locker

Crazy...

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

The pic on your link shows him tackling a Buccaneer. Why does MSNBC hate the Bucs?
/

835 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:15:05am

re: #834 Cannadian Club Akbar

I think it was the uniform they hated.

836 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:15:15am

re: #818 Locker

Breaking Bad is great. That scene with the 2 brothers, one in the ice chest, was crazy. Can't wait for Sunday.

Yeah, and stupid me didn't even know it was a flashback until I read some blog recaps about that episode.

Breaking Bad is like what the Coen Brothers would make if they did a tv show.

837 badger1970  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:16:41am

re: #834 Cannadian Club Akbar

Notice the picture was of the orange uniform variety. Everyone not named Steve Young were sacking the Bucs. /

838 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:17:51am

re: #837 badger1970

Notice the picture was of the orange uniform variety. Everyone not named Steve Young were sacking the Bucs. /

I have a Steve Young rookie card. Wanna guess what uniform he was wearing?

839 lostlakehiker  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:19:08am

re: #703 PAUL_MACDONALD

If that were the case, they would have been out in force during the Bush years. They get to hide behind the rhetoric of "lower taxes and smaller government" because they really have a problem with a black guy being president.

It's fairly clear that the tea partiers and their candidates have nothing concrete in the realm of how and what to cut.

Oh? Here's a start. Cut social security payouts. Rescind the health care takeover. Stop backing mortgages that stand no chance of being paid off by the borrower. Don't hand out student loans when there's little chance the student will graduate---and for sure, don't hand out student loans when the school is so bad that there's no chance a degree from that school will lead to a job. Stop bailing out financial firms that made reckless bets and lost.

End earmarks. At this point, you've made a little progress on balancing the budget, and you begin to enter the opposite of a vicious circle.

Now what the tea party movement completely gets wrong is that this agenda, which is a fairly drastic one, is quite insufficient. Pity to say, taxes will have to go up. Make all social security payments taxable income. (Those who most need that money won't be liable for any taxes anyhow.) Raise rates a couple percent across the board. (The middle class is going to have to be part of the answer when it comes to revenue. The rich aren't tapped out but relying on them to carry the load alone is not feasible.) Don't institute a VAT or other stealth tax, because stealth taxes become cash cows for unrestrained spending and that just worsens the national debt.

As to having not spoken up during the Bush years, give people a little credit for stupidity. Odds are these guys didn't sell all their equity holdings in 2006 and 2007. They sincerely didn't get it that we were spending our way into a fix. Almost by definition, when there's a bubble, people mostly haven't figured out that it's a bubble. But now, sadder and wiser, we know better.

840 badger1970  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:19:45am

re: #838 Cannadian Club Akbar

Image: p716046p275w.jpg

841 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:21:38am

re: #840 badger1970

Image: p716046p275w.jpg

Good thing we traded him. He sucked.
//I'm gonna cry now

842 Semper Fi  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:24:04am

Thanks lizards. Things to do now. A little walk first to loosen up. Have a nice day.

843 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:25:53am

Brad Johnson (QB-Bucs) was (and might be the only) the first person to throw a TD to himself.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

844 Ojoe  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:26:19am

re: #839 lostlakehiker

In the long run, we are not going to get the country onto an even keel unless we BOTH eliminate the deficit AND pay down the national debt to a very small fraction of what it is now.

Probably it will take a constitutional amendment to accomplish this.

Meanwhile our freedom of action as a nation is being eroded by our profligacy.

No politician will say this.

A leader would say this however.

845 Walter L. Newton  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:32:36am

re: #844 Ojoe

In the long run, we are not going to get the country onto an even keel unless we BOTH eliminate the deficit AND pay down the national debt to a very small fraction of what it is now.

Probably it will take a constitutional amendment to accomplish this.

Meanwhile our freedom of action as a nation is being eroded by our profligacy.

No politician will say this.

A leader would say this however.

I've been saying it for two years... kleptocracy, plutocracy and you add a wonder word... profligacy... all children of the same concept.

But there is a bigger problem, not only will politicians, of either side, admit that this is what our government has become, you damn well can be sure that certain partisan citizens would never cop to this either. Not when all that theft is of such a benefit to some people... figure it out.

846 Ojoe  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:34:43am

re: #845 Walter L. Newton

It is the very common citizen who will have to change this.

847 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:37:33am

re: #844 Ojoe


No politician will say this.

'Cause they don't know what "profligacy" means.

848 lawhawk  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:38:57am

re: #831 HoosierHoops

Wow. Taylor allegedly raped this girl at a motel in Montebello, NY:

Former Giants great Lawrence Taylor was arrested Thursday in Rockland County in connection with the reported rape of a 15-year-old girl, sources said. Taylor allegedly beat and sexually assaulted the girl and has been charged with third-degree rape, the Journal News was reporting. He will be arraigned Thursday afternoon. The alleged assault happened at a hotel in Montebello, N.Y., earlier Thursday. Taylor was jailed a short time later, the Ramapo Police Department said in a brief statement. Details were scarce, but the town's police chief said more information would be provided at a 3 p.m. press conference. Taylor, 51, played for the Giants from 1981 to 1993 and was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1999. He also competed last year in ABC's "Dancing with the Stars."
849 lawhawk  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:39:32am

BTW - ignore the link in my 848 to Montebello, NY - that's a kludged link.

850 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:40:42am

re: #848 lawhawk

What the hell is third degree rape?

851 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:41:20am

re: #362 JasonA

Wasn't Hadrian gay, too? I remember something about him touring Egypt with a boy along with him or something...

Antinous. When the young man drowned in the Nile, Hadrian made him a god, which is one of the hazards of love-struck emperors, they do stuff like that.

852 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:42:12am

re: #850 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What the hell is third degree rape?

Appears statutory rape... under 16.

853 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:43:07am

re: #852 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Appears statutory rape... under 16.

Why wasn't he charged with assault if he beat her?

854 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:43:31am

re: #853 Cannadian Club Akbar

dunno

855 sagehen  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:44:45am

re: #839 lostlakehiker

I'm going to add -- end farm subsidies. (especially corn -- drastically reducing the amount of high fructose corn syrup we all ingest will also go a long way to reducing long-term medical costs).

I want three new, higher, income tax brackets -- at $500k, $1m and $10m.

Capital gains needs to be folded into earned income, and all of it taxed at the same rate. Income is income is income is income. The one exception is a once-in-a-lifetime pass when you sell your home and don't roll the money into buying a new home.

A $1/gallon increase in the gas tax (and encourage the coastal states, where population density has created some decent public transit, to add another 50c/gallon on top of that). And ten years down the line, do it again.

Drastically scale back the War on Drugs (tm). Legalize marijuana -- take it away from the DEA and give it to the ATF. They already know how to manage the taxes Limit SWAT teams to anti-terror and hostage rescue.

Quadruple fines for violations of EPA standards and OSHA standards, and enforce vigorously. And then again five years later. Instead of hiring thousands more federal lawyers to bring the cases, allow any member of the bar who wants to make the cases on a contingency basis.

856 lawhawk  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:45:06am

re: #850 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It's defined as:

§ 130.25 Rape in the third degree.
A person is guilty of rape in the third degree when:
1. He or she engages in sexual intercourse with another person who is
incapable of consent by reason of some factor other than being less than
seventeen years old;
2. Being twenty-one years old or more, he or she engages in sexual
intercourse with another person less than seventeen years old; or
3. He or she engages in sexual intercourse with another person without
such person's consent where such lack of consent is by reason of some
factor other than incapacity to consent.
Rape in the third degree is a class E felony.

Class E felony means he's facing up to 4 years.

857 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:45:32am

re: #844 Ojoe

Chris Christie appears to be "The Politician Not Afraid To Piss People Off!". He is making a gigantic enemies list because he is making some tough and incredibly unpopular decisions.

He doesn't appear to give a shit.

858 sagehen  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:46:16am

re: #848 lawhawk

Wow. Taylor allegedly raped this girl at a motel in Montebello, NY:

OMG, he's old enough to be her grandfather!

859 Renaissance_Man  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:47:16am

re: #844 Ojoe

In the long run, we are not going to get the country onto an even keel unless we BOTH eliminate the deficit AND pay down the national debt to a very small fraction of what it is now.

Probably it will take a constitutional amendment to accomplish this.

Meanwhile our freedom of action as a nation is being eroded by our profligacy.

No politician will say this.

A leader would say this however.

No politician will say this because they will never attain any position of power if they do. That's not a slight on them - I do not suggest that they are desperate for power for power's sake, though some most likely are. It is the nature of our system - they cannot tell us the hard truths, because if they do, we will not vote for them. That is not their fault, but ours.

We have wilfully ignored the consequences of an electoral system so massively dependent on media and sound bites, a system dependent on emotionally manipulating more people to turn up through whatever means, whether that be empty promises, starry-eyed celebrity, or hate and anger at the 'other guy'. We have made it a mandate for our elected politicians to be bought, whereas in a more ideal system their corruption would be dependent only on their own human foibles. We have mandated that they be bought because without such massive financial backing and/or media assistance, they cannot convince us to turn up and vote for them. We have willingly gone along with the politics of style over substance, of empty rhetoric, of wedge politics and anything except a discussion of hard truths.

860 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:47:33am

re: #856 lawhawk

So,
1. Person is drugged?
2. Under 17?
3. Mentally challenged?

861 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:48:32am

re: #856 lawhawk

It's defined as:

Class E felony means he's facing up to 4 years.

If this is true I hope he gets all 4.

862 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:48:52am

Wish vinnie was here. We're getting serious again.

863 Walter L. Newton  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:49:16am

re: #861 Cannadian Club Akbar

If this is true I hope he gets all 4.

These are our heros.

864 Digital Display  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:50:47am

re: #861 Cannadian Club Akbar

If this is true I hope he gets all 4.

He has always been a tragic figure in Sports...

865 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:50:47am

Oh, Naked Gun... Frank Drebin is about to sing the National Anthem.

"Hey! It's Enrico Pallazzo!"

866 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:51:01am

re: #512 LudwigVanQuixote

Hurr hurrr hurr...

These are really horrible folks. If you dig around enough you can find praise for Serbians ethnic cleansing Muslims, the worst sorts of slurs directed against gays or women or anyone who doesn't agree - and persistent "wink wink" racism that occasionally surfaces much more openly.

You don't have to dig around much. Rodan's fantasy about ethnic purity in Spain, of all places, is a rare treat.

867 lawhawk  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:51:11am

re: #857 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The NJEA is running attack ads 24/7 here over his decisions to deal with the massive state debt, flowing red ink, and saying that Christie is destroying the state education system.

Let's just ignore that the state can't actually afford the state education system as it is currently comprised and funded - and that is due to legislators doing nothing to demand more accountability from the system, the Abbott rules, and a union that demands wage hikes even in the teeth of a recession when taxpayers simply don't have the money to afford 'em.

868 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:52:12am

re: #863 Walter L. Newton

I have learned to watch sports and admire someone's ability without putting them into "hero" status.

I hope.

869 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:52:17am

re: #862 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wish vinnie was here. We're getting serious again.

Ba ba ba, ba Babarino!

870 Digital Display  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:53:00am

re: #868 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I have learned to watch sports and admire someone's ability without putting them into "hero" status.

I hope.

Tiger Woods

871 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:53:59am

re: #544 Decatur Deb

It's obvious that "teabagger" is just not a proper term for use in civil political discussion. Fortunately, I have stumbled upon a more useful word and will refer to outlandish TP antagonists as "Inscrotables".

Look, what's the proper term? What would the individuals in question like to called collectively?

872 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:54:55am

re: #867 lawhawk

Christie honestly does not seem to give a shit. It's a beautiful thing to watch.

He's raining tough love down onto the state.

God Bless Him.

National office in the cards?

(I pray for his safety in NJ)

873 oklahoma  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:56:40am

They can call themselves Teabaggers. We on the other hand mean something different when we refer to them by that term. Much like a certain group can call themselves a certain word that no one else can call them.

874 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:57:37am

Update on the contract job. The second firm told me I can also sign a letter of intent with them then go with whichever one wins the contract. He's going to get back to me with salary info.

It's kind of nice to be wanted!

875 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:58:03am

re: #582 Decatur Deb

It's some kind of BS, either brain-dead administration or a few punks trying to start shit under a blameless cover. Guess we would have to be there.

Saw that last night. I suspect that the kids may have been trying to tweak a few noses, but that the administration totally screwed up in handling it. Based on my long experience of both as an educator.

876 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:58:09am

re: #874 Mad Al-Jaffee

Awesomesauce!

877 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 8:59:23am

re: #876 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The job description is pretty different than what I'm doing now, and it involves more clerical work (like shelving and distribution), but if it pays well I'll go for it.

878 cliffster  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:00:19am

good morning, crazy kids. what's shakin'?

879 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:00:22am

re: #602 Cannadian Club Akbar

Why not where orange?

Orangemen=William of Orange=Northern Scots-Irish Protestants

880 Digital Display  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:00:29am

re: #877 Mad Al-Jaffee

The job description is pretty different than what I'm doing now, and it involves more clerical work (like shelving and distribution), but if it pays well I'll go for it.

That's awesome!

881 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:00:59am

re: #875 SanFranciscoZionist

Now comes my whole "flag waving patriot" thing.

Any time someone wants to wear an American flag, (emblem, y'all know what I mean) in America? And the said American flag is offensive to someone else?

The someone else is in the wrong.

882 Digital Display  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:01:10am

re: #878 cliffster

good morning, crazy kids. what's shakin'?

What's kicking chick'n?

883 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:01:48am

re: #878 cliffster

good morning, crazy kids. what's shakin'?

Four cheeks and a couple of chins.
-Norm

884 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:02:12am

re: #878 cliffster

good morning, crazy kids. what's shakin'?

Taco flavored keeses!!!

885 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:02:28am

re: #615 reine.de.tout

I have to wonder what the administration would have done if the kids wearing the US flag shirts had complained that they were offended by the celebration of a Mexican Heritage Day? Would the kids of Mexican heritage have been sent home? Or would the complainers have been sent home? Why is it a complaint one way results in kids being sent home, but a complaint the other way could have resulted in the SAME kids being sent home?

I don't care whose flag anybody wears on their clothes, or who celebrates what. It does bother me that certain rights (to wear what they want to school, since there's no indication anybody violated the school's dress policy) are so sacred one way, but not the other.

In defense of the administration (and I don't really want to defend them), they may have been concerned with heading off a fight, rather than who had a right to do what.

886 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:02:43am

re: #878 cliffster

good morning, crazy kids. what's shakin'?

vinnie's head.

887 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:03:37am

re: #881 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Now comes my whole "flag waving patriot" thing.

Any time someone wants to wear an American flag, (emblem, y'all know what I mean) in America? And the said American flag is offensive to someone else?

The someone else is in the wrong.

The American flag is a symbol of racism, colonialism and slavery!!
/

888 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:03:43am

My radio just said the Michigan Militia guys are getting out on bail.

889 cliffster  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:04:12am

re: #882 HoosierHoops

What's kicking chick'n?

Allergens are - kicking my ass that is. I haven't stopped hacking up chunks of my lung since January. It's the one downside to living in Austin. The only one, I think.

890 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:04:16am

re: #886 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

vinnie's head.

I don't know what he's shakin' about. Tacos are a very serious subject for me. Today is taco truck day...

891 cliffster  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:04:35am

re: #881 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Now comes my whole "flag waving patriot" thing.

Any time someone wants to wear an American flag, (emblem, y'all know what I mean) in America? And the said American flag is offensive to someone else?

The someone else is in the wrong.

damn straight.

892 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:05:41am

re: #885 SanFranciscoZionist

In defense of the administration (and I don't really want to defend them), they may have been concerned with heading off a fight, rather than who had a right to do what.

If they were afraid that the Mexican students would start a fight over a flag, maybe those students should have been sent home.

893 Digital Display  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:05:47am

It's a beautiful day in Indiana..Just perfect.. I'm on the deck in the shade blogging, Winston is chasing birds around and a real honest to goodness Black helicopter just flew over my house...My first flyover ever....
/need foil...:)

894 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:05:54am

re: #890 Locker

I don't know what he's shakin' about. Tacos are a very serious subject for me. Today is taco truck day...

I've considered turning an old skool bus into a cheesesteak bus.

895 Renaissance_Man  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:06:51am

re: #881 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Now comes my whole "flag waving patriot" thing.

Any time someone wants to wear an American flag, (emblem, y'all know what I mean) in America? And the said American flag is offensive to someone else?

The someone else is in the wrong.

Not always.

I know I'm pretty offended, and I'm not even an American.

896 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:07:09am

re: #885 SanFranciscoZionist

I would've been right there in the middle of that stuff in High School.

I wore bibbed overalls with a tie on dress up day. Stupid shit like that.

Funny thing happened on that day. They took pictures of the kids who made the "Best/Most" list. Had my picture took. Was in the paper. Wearing that shit.

I was awesomesauce back then, too.

897 Digital Display  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:08:00am

re: #895 Renaissance_Man

Not always.

I know I'm pretty offended, and I'm not even an American.

Can I see your papers please?

898 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:08:05am

re: #892 Mad Al-Jaffee

If they were afraid that the Mexican students would start a fight over a flag, maybe those students should have been sent home.

I'm not really into the whole censorship thing. Folks can wear whatever they want and if half of a school wants to wear Mexican flag T-shirts for immigration day or on the Fourth of July it's just as valid.

899 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:08:29am

re: #895 Renaissance_Man

What a lovely outfit....

900 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:09:02am

re: #894 Cannadian Club Akbar

I've considered turning an old skool bus into a cheesesteak bus.

A cheese-steak bus would be marvelous. I'd like a large steak with provolone cheese, mushrooms and grilled onions please!

901 lawhawk  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:09:31am

From the be careful what you ask for and I told you so files - Rep. Henry Waxman had requested all kinds of documents from major corporations regarding their SOX/SEC filings saying that they would take charges as a result of the health care reform act (in the hundreds of millions to billions each). He and fellow Democrats were pissed that the companies made those announcements.

But after receiving those documents, he and the Democrats dropped the hearings they had proposed.

Well, it turns out that the documents shed quite a bit of light on something that those Democrats and Waxman didn't want made so public - that these same companies were under obligations to their shareholders to announce those changes under SOX and SEC rules, but that wasn' t the end of it.

The documents also showed that these companies were looking at whether it would be cheaper to incur the penalties than to continue extending coverage to their employees. They were looking at dumping employees into the exchanges rather than take the hit on their balance sheets, which was exactly what critics had contended. Among those providing documents were Hewitt in advising Verizon. Hewitt provides health care and benefits guidance to Fortune 500 companies all over the country, and if they were giving that kind of guidance to Verizon, they were giving similar advice to their other customers.

902 Renaissance_Man  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:09:32am

re: #897 HoosierHoops

Can I see your papers please?

That black helicopter you just saw? Coming for me. Thanks for the heads up.

903 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:09:34am

I remember when Def Leopard had British flag concert shirts. EVERYONE wanted one.

904 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:09:42am

re: #894 Cannadian Club Akbar

I've considered turning an old skool bus into a cheesesteak bus.

A bus made out of cheesesteaks? I have this mental image of a giant cheesesteak with wheels.

905 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:10:34am

re: #900 Locker

A cheese-steak bus would be marvelous. I'd like a large steak with provolone cheese, mushrooms and grilled onions please!

Ya gotta have the cherry peppers.:)

906 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:11:11am

re: #904 Mad Al-Jaffee

A bus made out of cheesesteaks? I have this mental image of a giant cheesesteak with wheels.

We should make a movie about a van made out of weed. Wait...
//

907 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:12:04am

re: #901 lawhawk

Again, I say...

908 badger1970  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:12:07am

re: #904 Mad Al-Jaffee

So it'll be in the same vein as this?

Image: 800px-Wienermobile-NAIAS-2005.jpg

909 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:13:21am

re: #901 lawhawk

If they cancel the hearings, we won't know. Right?

These guys are amazing.

910 lawhawk  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:13:57am

Re: Lawrence Taylor and the charges. Legalbgl in my comments notes that if they can prove the assault, the charges get changed:

If they can prove he beat her then the charges can be increased to Rape in 1st degree:

Section 130.35 Rape in the first degree.
A person is guilty of rape in the first degree when he or she engages in sexual intercourse with another person:
1. By forcible compulsion; or
2. Who is incapable of consent by reason of being physically helpless; or
3. Who is less than eleven years old; or
4. Who is less than thirteen years old and the actor is eighteen years old or more.
Rape in the first degree is a class B felony.

Which I believe because of his prior conviction makes it a minimum of 10 years.
911 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:18:11am

re: #905 Cannadian Club Akbar

Ya gotta have the cherry peppers.:)

Fuck that. No peppers on my forking cheese-steak. Peppers on a Sausage and Pepper sandwich.

912 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:18:27am

re: #906 Cannadian Club Akbar

We should make a movie about a van made out of weed. Wait...
//

YESCA

913 Digital Display  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:19:33am

re: #910 lawhawk

Re: Lawrence Taylor and the charges. Legalbgl in my comments notes that if they can prove the assault, the charges get changed:

I would think a rape would be an assault with a 15 yr old minor...
I don't know the legality...I know you understand..This case interests me and I need more background.. Thanks!
/The Sports blogs are just fucking blowing up right now

914 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:20:32am

re: #873 oklahoma

They can call themselves Teabaggers. We on the other hand mean something different when we refer to them by that term. Much like a certain group can call themselves a certain word that no one else can call them.

Don't even go there. The comparison is both ludicrous and offensive.

915 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:21:49am

re: #914 SanFranciscoZionist

Don't even go there. The comparison is both ludicrous and offensive.

I think he's talking about naggers.
/

916 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:22:22am

re: #881 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Now comes my whole "flag waving patriot" thing.

Any time someone wants to wear an American flag, (emblem, y'all know what I mean) in America? And the said American flag is offensive to someone else?

The someone else is in the wrong.

I'm not going to argue with you--this should have been handled differently.

917 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:23:23am

re: #915 Locker

I think he's talking about naggers.
/

My dad's CB "handle" in the 70's was "Hen Pecked".

918 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:24:15am

re: #917 Cannadian Club Akbar

My dad's CB "handle" in the 70's was "Hen Pecked".

Laugh my dad was "The Dealer". Still not sure what he means by that... perhaps I've been affected...

919 avanti  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:24:35am

re: #898 Locker

I'm not really into the whole censorship thing. Folks can wear whatever they want and if half of a school wants to wear Mexican flag T-shirts for immigration day or on the Fourth of July it's just as valid.

Looks like the school over reacted to a perceived problem:

"Cinco de Mayo is popular at Live Oak, which is 40 percent Latino. The school even had ethnic dancers perform at lunch.

Live Oak's principal had no comment. The Morgan Hill Unified School District, however, disagreed with the high school.

"The district does not concur with the Live Oak High School administration's interpretation of either board or district policy related to these actions," said Dr. Jay Totter of the district.

By sundown, the district met with all the students and parents, and they all got good news. The t-shirts can stay.

920 lawhawk  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:25:28am

Developing: Emirates jet stopped on JFK taxiway amid reports 'no-fly' passenger on board - via MSNBC (no link).

921 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:25:53am

re: #916 SanFranciscoZionist

Love ya!

922 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:26:26am

re: #920 lawhawk

Developing: Emirates jet stopped on JFK taxiway amid reports 'no-fly' passenger on board - via MSNBC (no link).

Hey they are Arsenal's sponsor. Hope everything is ok.

923 wrenchwench  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:26:52am

re: #920 lawhawk

Developing: Emirates jet stopped on JFK taxiway amid reports 'no-fly' passenger on board - via MSNBC (no link).

Emirates can haz do-overs?

924 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:27:02am

re: #920 lawhawk

Hmmm. Who owns Emirates? That Bush or Cheney?

Rove?

925 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:27:24am

re: #919 avanti

Looks like the school over reacted to a perceived problem:

"Cinco de Mayo is popular at Live Oak, which is 40 percent Latino. The school even had ethnic dancers perform at lunch.

Live Oak's principal had no comment. The Morgan Hill Unified School District, however, disagreed with the high school.

"The district does not concur with the Live Oak High School administration's interpretation of either board or district policy related to these actions," said Dr. Jay Totter of the district.

By sundown, the district met with all the students and parents, and they all got good news. The t-shirts can stay.

We had a free dress day for CdM, the kids wore red white or green tops. And the Latino Club cooked a Mexican lunch for the staff. Very nice.

926 Only The Lurker Knows  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:29:07am

Morning Lizards. For todays nontroversy I offer this.

Holder Defends Mirandizing Times Square Suspect

"Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and other Republicans say Shahzad, a naturalized U.S. citizen, should have been treated as an enemy combatant out of the gate. Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn, said as far as he's concerned, Shahzad lost his entitlement to Miranda Rights when he was arrested on terrorism charges."

I wonder what other parts of the Constitution they would like to suspend?

927 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:30:08am

re: #844 Ojoe

We're busy trying to develop out new superpower position of being "too big too fail". We'll go so far into debt to other countries that they will have to bail us out to prevent us from spontaneously revoking our debt and destroying the world's economic system.

/// (Massive)

928 Digital Display  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:31:12am

re: #922 Locker

Hey they are Arsenal's sponsor. Hope everything is ok.

Locker..Do you get ESPN over there? The world cup commercials here have been the best soccer ads I have ever seen.. In fact..Who ever produced them just put to shame the NFL and MLB together in promotion..
I give it a 5 out of 5 stars

929 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:32:08am

re: #928 HoosierHoops

Over there? Isn't he in Cali?

930 Digital Display  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:32:52am

re: #929 Cannadian Club Akbar

Over there? Isn't he in Cali?

Whoops..Thought he was UK
my bad

931 cliffster  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:33:53am

This LT thing is depressing.

932 Locker  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:34:59am

re: #928 HoosierHoops

Locker..Do you get ESPN over there? The world cup commercials here have been the best soccer ads I have ever seen.. In fact..Who ever produced them just put to shame the NFL and MLB together in promotion..
I give it a 5 out of 5 stars

Yes and I've seen them on ESPN, Fox Soccer Channel and on GolTV. 35 days, 21 hours and 24 minutes until the first game starts.

933 lawhawk  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:35:12am

More on today's incident:

passenger was reportedly pulled off of an Emirates Airlines aircraft at John F. Kennedy International Airport in Queens on Thursday morning.

The passenger was reportedly discovered to be on the no-fly list, according to Breaking News Network.

SkyFoxHD saw an Emirates Airlines plane plane at the gate at 12:30 p.m. with at least two security vehicles nearby.

The tower had reportedly notified the Port Authority Police Department that the aircraft was being returned to the gate.

MyFoxNY.com is trying to confirm all of this information and will update the story.

Other local news is running with either the Fox news story, or has only that Flight 204 was blocked.

934 Kruk  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:35:53am

Are Lieberman and co proposing stripping citizen from people who have been *convicted* of aiding terrorist groups, or those accused of it? The first is justifiable if applied equally to everyone. (It could violate the equal protection clause if it was applied to naturalised citizens but not native born.)

If people who were accused/suspected were stripped of citizenship, and the lack of citizenship then used to evade certain legal protections and allow a conviction, and the conviction used to justify the stripping of citizenship....well, that seems a little Kakfa-esque to say the least.

935 _RememberTonyC  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:36:18am

if potential terrorists know they could lose their US citizenship, it will either:

a. Deter future terrorists who might want to live here, thus reducing terrorism --or--

b. not mean shit.

Think about this .... what offenses committed against us deserve the harshest sanctions? Terrorists are at the top of my list.

936 sagehen  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:37:03am

re: #926 Bubblehead II

Morning Lizards. For todays nontroversy I offer this.

Holder Defends Mirandizing Times Square Suspect

"Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and other Republicans say Shahzad, a naturalized U.S. citizen, should have been treated as an enemy combatant out of the gate. Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn, said as far as he's concerned, Shahzad lost his entitlement to Miranda Rights when he was arrested on terrorism charges."

I wonder what other parts of the Constitution they would like to suspend?


Apparently the 10th Amendment only applies when the President is a Democratic.

937 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:37:49am

re: #933 lawhawk

Maybe I just don't understand how it works. I would think "Sir? You are on the no fly list, you can't board the plane" would be how it is supposed to work.

938 reine.de.tout  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:39:41am

re: #885 SanFranciscoZionist

In defense of the administration (and I don't really want to defend them), they may have been concerned with heading off a fight, rather than who had a right to do what.

agreed.
There is probably more to this than was reported.

939 lawhawk  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:39:42am

re: #934 Kruk

Stripping citizenship makes no sense. No, the more appropriate charge and course of action would be to try these US citizens (naturalized or by birth) on charges of treason in addition to the other charges. After all, they are standing accused of aiding, abetting, and consorting with our nation's enemies and fighting against the US.

940 wrenchwench  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:40:21am

re: #925 SanFranciscoZionist

We had a free dress day for CdM, the kids wore red white or green tops. And the Latino Club cooked a Mexican lunch for the staff. Very nice.

"Free" being a somewhat relative concept here? I had a friend who was into wild socks as a holdover from Catholic school days.

941 webevintage  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:40:26am

re: #934 Kruk

Are Lieberman and co proposing stripping citizen from people who have been *convicted* of aiding terrorist groups, or those accused of it?


From the accused.
It boggles the mind....

" GRAHAM: I want to stop reading these guys their Miranda rights. Me and Peter are so much on board here. … Nobody in their right mind would expect a Marine to read someone caught on the battlefield their rights. You catch them and you interrogate them lawfully to gather intelligence. Your special unit is probably the best in the world at this, but I don’t think it’s smart for us to say the homeland is not part of the battlefield.

You get to America, you get a much better deal, you get rewarded. If you can be caught in Pakistan, intelligence-gathering can happen with intelligence agencies without your Miranda warnings being given. Why should you get a better deal when you get here? Even if you’re an American citizen helping the enemy, you should be viewed as a potential military threat, not some guy who tried to commit a crime in Times Square.

So I look forward to working with the New York City Police Department, the mayor of New York, Peter King, to devise a law that recognizes we’re at war. … [T]hat you would have the opportunity to hold this suspect, because they represent a military threat to our country even though they’re a citizen, and be able to gather intelligence before you did anything else. … So we need a law that would allow you to go to a judge somewhere — like a FISA judge — and hold a suspect like this and working with the intelligence officials of this country, to gather intelligence, and then make a good prosecutorial decision. "

[Link: thinkprogress.org...]

942 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:40:29am

re: #936 sagehen

He's an American citizen, arrested on American soil... Mirandize him.

I'd like to have him executed too. You know, after the trial and stuff.

943 darthstar  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:41:48am

re: #934 Kruk

Are Lieberman and co proposing stripping citizen from people who have been *convicted* of aiding terrorist groups, or those accused of it? The first is justifiable if applied equally to everyone. (It could violate the equal protection clause if it was applied to naturalised citizens but not native born.)

If people who were accused/suspected were stripped of citizenship, and the lack of citizenship then used to evade certain legal protections and allow a conviction, and the conviction used to justify the stripping of citizenship...well, that seems a little Kakfa-esque to say the least.

As it stands, he's asking for people 'accused' of aiding terrorist groups to be stripped of citizenship and sent to military tribunals. Expect him to mumble through some explanation of how he's concerned about the safety of Americans...basically, he's trying to give cover to his buddies Graham and McCain.

944 reine.de.tout  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:41:49am

re: #940 wrenchwench

"Free" being a somewhat relative concept here? I had a friend who was into wild socks as a holdover from Catholic school days.

Daughter and I are having a sock-burning celebration (where we'll probably just throw them away). Today was her final final HS exam.

945 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:42:39am

I got another business proposal today!

Dear friend,

I have a project I want you to run with us.

It involves exportation of 35,000 barrels of oil daily from Kirkuk, Iraq.

If you are interested, email me

Mr. Yan

946 cliffster  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:43:20am

re: #939 lawhawk

Stripping citizenship makes no sense. No, the more appropriate charge and course of action would be to try these US citizens (naturalized or by birth) on charges of treason in addition to the other charges. After all, they are standing accused of aiding, abetting, and consorting with our nation's enemies and fighting against the US.

son, do you know what we do to treasoners around here?

947 wrenchwench  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:45:03am

re: #944 reine.de.tout

Daughter and I are having a sock-burning celebration (where we'll probably just throw them away). Today was her final final HS exam.

Congratulations to both of you! Compost the 100% cotton ones! [semi/]

948 webevintage  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:45:24am

And while Graham has no problem stepping all over the rights of US citizens when it comes to Miranda he really, really has no problem with the fact that terrorists can legally buy weapons.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

"Yes, if you are on the terrorist watch list, the authorities can keep you from getting on a plane but not from purchasing an AK-47. This makes sense to Congress because, as Graham accurately pointed out, “when the founders sat down and wrote the Constitution, they didn’t consider flying.”

949 Kruk  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:46:18am

re: #943 darthstar

As it stands, he's asking for people 'accused' of aiding terrorist groups to be stripped of citizenship and sent to military tribunals. Expect him to mumble through some explanation of how he's concerned about the safety of Americans...basically, he's trying to give cover to his buddies Graham and McCain.

And the people who go batshit about Government tyranny will be cheering this on. *Faceplam*

950 simoom  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:50:39am

Portsmouth, NH:
[Link: www.seacoastonline.com...]

A report of a possible bomb on a bus near downtown Portsmouth caused police to evacuate the Hanover Street area late Thursday morning.

At approximately 11:45 a.m. police and firefighters were on scene evacuating Hanover Street from Maplewood Avenue to Market Street, and had surrounded a Greyhound bus with approximately 17 passengers on board, while watching a subject inside, according to emergency radio communications.

Police Chief Lou Ferland said police received information that there may be a subject on the bus with a bomb.

FBI agents arrived on scene at approximately 12:17 p.m.

Others responding to the scene included the Seacoast Emergency Response Team (SERT), the N.H. State Police bomb disposal unit, an Exeter Police special operations vehicle and a K-9 unit from Dover. At approximately 12:30 p.m. an armored vehicle was also en route from Rye.

According to Portsmouth Police Cpt. Mike Schwartz, there were 17 people on the bus, the driver was not on board during the response, and there has been phone contact with a passenger.

As of 12:40 p.m. police had not named a suspect, and are urging people to stay away from the downtown area.

[Link: www.unionleader.com...]

SWAT teams are being called to the scene, the hood on the bus is raised and early reports from the scene indicate a suspicious device was found on the bus. There are passengers on the bus. The nearby Hilton Hotel is being evacuated.
951 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:53:12am

re: #950 simoom

That. NYC. Pipe bomb in Pittsburgh. WTF?

952 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:53:25am

re: #904 Mad Al-Jaffee

A bus made out of cheesesteaks? I have this mental image of a giant cheesesteak with wheels.

Sounds like a meat car from Kingdom of Loathing...

953 Kruk  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:54:27am

re: #951 Cannadian Club Akbar

That. NYC. Pipe bomb in Pittsburgh. WTF?

It's crazy season. :( I'm hoping and praying what's happening in NH ends peacefully.

954 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:54:27am

re: #924 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hmmm. Who owns Emirates? That Bush or Cheney?

Rove?

Other way round possibly? Emirates own them?

955 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:55:39am

re: #951 Cannadian Club Akbar

That. NYC. Pipe bomb in Pittsburgh. WTF?

I believe the Pittsburgh incident was a false alarm. Abandoned microwave on sidewalk without an explosive inside.

956 Walter L. Newton  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:55:45am

re: #953 Kruk

It's crazy season. :( I'm hoping and praying what's happening in NH ends peacefully.

What do you expect with all those domestic terrorist who have a problem with the health reform bill and stuff like that.

957 Only The Lurker Knows  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:55:48am

re: #941 webevintage

Then this should boggle your Mind

S. 3081

958 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:56:23am

Update: New York plane scare a false alarm; passenger name was similar, but not a match, to that of person on 'no fly' list, NBC confirms

959 lawhawk  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:56:31am

re: #951 Cannadian Club Akbar

Overnight there was a situation at the RFK Triborough Bridge where an unattended box truck was found. They closed the bridge to all traffic until it was found to have been just abandoned and not a threat.

With people on heightened watch for unusual activity, these are getting more attention than they normally would.

960 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:56:39am

re: #954 oaktree

Other way round possibly? Emirates own them all of them...?

Good point.

961 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:56:43am

re: #955 Stanley Sea

I believe the Pittsburgh incident was a false alarm. Abandoned microwave on sidewalk without an explosive inside.

Didn't see that. Thanks.

962 Slap  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:56:57am

re: #938 reine.de.tout

Sp far, none of the local news outlets have had much film. What VERY little I've seen seems to support SFV's assessment of the situation as a response to a potential problem. As I was leaving for work, one of the "offending" kids -- who was quoted in the story -- was speaking as though mom and dad have been feeding him a steady unbalanced diet of martyr cookies. I had the distinct impression -- based on nothing but my "i'm-on-my-way-out-the-door" corner of my mind's eye glimpse -- that their choice to wear the gear on that day (I've seen nothing yet to claim they wear these things every day) was intended to provoke.

Not saying it was handled right, by any means -- I've no way to know exactly what occurred. But I get a whiff of something vaguely unpleasant underneath the surface here.

963 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:57:07am

re: #958 Stanley Sea

Update: New York plane scare a false alarm; passenger name was similar, but not a match, to that of person on 'no fly' list, NBC confirms

Was it Mohammed Khan? Cause that guy is everywhere!
//

964 Walter L. Newton  Thu, May 6, 2010 9:58:23am

re: #959 lawhawk

Overnight there was a situation at the RFK Triborough Bridge where an unattended box truck was found. They closed the bridge to all traffic until it was found to have been just abandoned and not a threat.

With people on heightened watch for unusual activity, these are getting more attention than they normally would.

And don't forget all those domestic terrorist who have a problem with the health reform bill and stuff like that.

965 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 6, 2010 10:00:29am

re: #963 rwdflynavy

Was it Mohammed Khan? Cause that guy is everywhere!
//

Madeline's brother?

966 Slap  Thu, May 6, 2010 10:00:42am

re: #962 Slap

Sp far, none of the local news outlets have had much film. What VERY little I've seen seems to support SFV's assessment of the situation as a response to a potential problem. As I was leaving for work, one of the "offending" kids -- who was quoted in the story -- was speaking as though mom and dad have been feeding him a steady unbalanced diet of martyr cookies. I had the distinct impression -- based on nothing but my "i'm-on-my-way-out-the-door" corner of my mind's eye glimpse -- that their choice to wear the gear on that day (I've seen nothing yet to claim they wear these things every day) was intended to provoke.

Not saying it was handled right, by any means -- I've no way to know exactly what occurred. But I get a whiff of something vaguely unpleasant underneath the surface here.

PIMF. Replace with So and SFZ, respectively. Grrrr.

967 darthstar  Thu, May 6, 2010 10:03:02am

re: #948 webevintage

And while Graham has no problem stepping all over the rights of US citizens when it comes to Miranda he really, really has no problem with the fact that terrorists can legally buy weapons.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

"Yes, if you are on the terrorist watch list, the authorities can keep you from getting on a plane but not from purchasing an AK-47. This makes sense to Congress because, as Graham accurately pointed out, “when the founders sat down and wrote the Constitution, they didn’t consider flying.”

I love Gail Collins...she's almost always funny, while being ruthless in her criticism of politicians, regardless of party affiliation.

968 lawhawk  Thu, May 6, 2010 10:06:37am