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1 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:46:30pm
“I’m John McCain and I approve this message”


He also approved Sarah Palin as his VP.
/Just sayin’

2 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:47:15pm

Well that killed my mood. He’s a maverick, no he’s one of us - anything for a cheap political score. He’s the GOP’s Hillary.

No John, I am so glad I didn’t vote for you. I can’t now even fathom I once did consider it. Fortunately your choice of Palin put an end to such thoughts.

3 fat bastard vegetarian  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:47:17pm

Don’t call me a maverick tho…

4 jamesfirecat  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:47:41pm

One of us, one of us!

5 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:48:23pm

re: #4 jamesfirecat

One of us, one of us!

I just got the image from the body snatcher movies… you know when one of them points and sheiks.

6 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:48:51pm

re: #5 LudwigVanQuixote

PIMF

I just got the image from the body snatcher movies… you know when one of them points and shrieks.

7 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:48:54pm

re: #4 jamesfirecat

One of us, one of us!

Gooble gobble, gooble gobble!

8 jaunte  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:49:02pm

Dang.

9 jamesfirecat  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:49:13pm

re: #5 LudwigVanQuixote

I just got the image from the body snatcher movies… you know when one of them points and sheiks.

Suddenly the life and history of John McCain makes so much more sense!

10 pingjockey  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:49:24pm

Buy Seeds!
Buy Gold!
Luap Nor!
Booga Booga!

11 avanti  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:50:00pm

WTF ? He was the migration reform guy last time I looked.

12 darthstar  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:50:31pm

Dang the torpedoes! Full screed of dread!

13 pingjockey  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:50:46pm

re: #11 avanti

That was until JD Hayworth started running to the right of Attila the Hun!

14 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:52:07pm

Now remember folks… The plan is perfect… It keeps the migrants here woring for even less because they can be even better brutalized and have even less recourse if they are… The newer migrants will be delayed by perhaps 15 to 20 minutes circumventing the fence and most importantly, You get to have jingoistic anger projected at poor brown people and cheap fruit at the same time and keep your local companies that exploit these folks in bigger profits.

Yes the plan is perfect.

Whores really.

15 pingjockey  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:52:27pm

Well, I’d love to stay and chat, but I have a job at 4 damn am. Gaaah.

16 fat bastard vegetarian  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:52:43pm

What if John was one of us
Just a slob like one of us
Just a stranger on the bus
Trying to make his way home…

Nobody calling on the phone
‘Cept maybe Sarah up in Nome….

17 darthstar  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:52:46pm

re: #1 Killgore Trout

He also approved Sarah Palin as his VP.
/Just sayin’

“I’m John McCain, and I’m told I approve this message.”

18 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:53:37pm

Yeah but isn’t the other one from AZ even more whacked? With McCain we at least know its just a snow job.

19 darthstar  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:53:50pm

re: #16 fat bastard vegetarian

What if John was one of us
Just a slob like one of us
Just a stranger on the bus
Trying to make his way home…

Nobody calling on the phone
‘Cept maybe Sarah up in Nome…

Well played, sir…well played indeed.

20 Racer X  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:55:16pm

I’m not that outraged. I liked it. Build the dang fence.

21 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:55:25pm

OK upon looking at JD Hayworth, if he gets in, we are going to see even worse. Hayworth seems to mean it.

22 bratwurst  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:56:08pm

I know if I were McCain I would be getting ready to enjoy a nice retirement at my multiple homes (so many I lost count) with my much younger wife and not worrying about how to win a red meat tossing contest with a guy who has ground chuck for brains.

23 fat bastard vegetarian  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:56:35pm

re: #20 Racer X

Made me feel a little bit… uh… pandered to.

24 jamesfirecat  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:56:59pm

re: #22 bratwurst

I know if I were McCain I would be getting ready to enjoy a nice retirement at my multiple homes (so many I lost count) with my much younger wife and not worrying about how to win a red meat tossing contest with a guy who has ground chuck for brains.

This really is beneath him isn’t it?

Hell this kind of blatant pandering should be beneath Jon Stewart let alone John McCain….

25 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:57:01pm

re: #14 LudwigVanQuixote

Now remember folks… The plan is perfect… It keeps the migrants here working for even less because they can be even better brutalized and have even less recourse if they are… The newer migrants will be delayed by perhaps 15 to 20 minutes circumventing the fence and most importantly, You get to have jingoistic anger projected at poor brown people and cheap fruit at the same time and keep your local companies that exploit these folks in bigger profits.

Yes the plan is perfect.

Whores really.

“The plan is perfect” ranks right up there with “The Maginot Line will surely stop the Germans” in the Famous Last Words category. The latter, said 70 years ago today, was a great error and so is assuming you have the perfect plan.

26 Racer X  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:58:40pm

re: #23 fat bastard vegetarian

Made me feel a little bit… uh… pandered to.

Yeah, a bit. I hate it when politicians do that.

27 fat bastard vegetarian  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:58:52pm

OT, but I have to do this…

A real facebook post from someone I went to high school with…

{Name deleted} wonders how many people know the “National Mall” in Washington DC…is NOT an actual shopping mall?! :o)

*takes glasses off, “Oh. My. God.”*

28 jamesfirecat  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:58:52pm

re: #25 Dark_Falcon

“The plan is perfect” ranks right up there with “The Maginot Line will surely stop the Germans” in the Famous Last Words category. The latter, said 70 years ago today, was a great error and so is assuming you have the perfect plan.

Don’t forget “Well invade Russia in June and be done before winter!”

29 Olsonist  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:59:19pm

re: #4 jamesfirecat

One of us, one of us!

We accept her! One of us! We accept her! One of us!

Freaks

30 austin_blue  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:59:29pm

Gah!

“I never really saw myself as a maverick.”

Translation:

“I have decided to whore myself out because these TP whackos scare the living shit out of me.”

((sigh))

31 fat bastard vegetarian  Mon, May 10, 2010 6:59:49pm

re: #19 darthstar

*curtsy*

32 austin_blue  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:00:02pm

re: #16 fat bastard vegetarian

What if John was one of us
Just a slob like one of us
Just a stranger on the bus
Trying to make his way home…

Nobody calling on the phone
‘Cept maybe Sarah up in Nome…

Outstanding!

33 jamesfirecat  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:00:10pm

re: #30 austin_blue

Gah!

“I never really saw myself as a maverick.”

Translation:

“I have decided to whore myself out because these TP whackos scare the living shit out of me.”

((sigh))

Translation of Translation

“I have decided to whore myself out because these TP whackos hold the fate of my senate career in their hands.”

34 rwdflynavy  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:00:14pm

re: #28 jamesfirecat

Don’t forget “Well invade Russia in June and be done before winter!”

Stalingrad will be a cake walk!

35 fat bastard vegetarian  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:00:40pm

re: #27 fat bastard vegetarian

She was completely and totally serious.

36 austin_blue  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:01:40pm

re: #22 bratwurst

I know if I were McCain I would be getting ready to enjoy a nice retirement at my multiple homes (so many I lost count) with my much younger wife and not worrying about how to win a red meat tossing contest with a guy who has ground chuck for brains.

Champion’s League! Well done for your guys.

37 jamesfirecat  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:02:15pm

re: #34 rwdflynavy

Stalingrad will be a cake walk!

The Americans and British will invade through the Pa De Calais area, we must center our defenses there!

38 austin_blue  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:02:32pm

re: #33 jamesfirecat

Translation of Translation

“I have decided to whore myself out because these TP whackos hold the fate of my senate career in their hands.”

Yepper, that’s the way it goes.

39 fat bastard vegetarian  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:03:10pm

re: #20 Racer X

I’m not that outraged. I liked it. Build the dang fence.

Oh! I should also say, “Build the fuckin’ fence”. I agree. But, geeze, John.

40 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:03:12pm

re: #28 jamesfirecat

Don’t forget “Well invade Russia in June and be done before winter!”

That one ranks right at the top of the list. I’ve actually found the perfect historical quote for this ad:

My plans are perfect, and when I carry them through may God have mercy on Bobby Lee, for I will have none!

- General Joseph “Fighting Joe” Hooker, 3 weeks prior to the Battle of Chancellorsville

41 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:03:34pm

Palin will be just what I need to get the women’s vote and show the rubes that the GOP is not all about old white men!

Another great plan.

42 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:03:47pm

re: #25 Dark_Falcon

“The plan is perfect” ranks right up there with “The Maginot Line will surely stop the Germans” in the Famous Last Words category. The latter, said 70 years ago today, was a great error and so is assuming you have the perfect plan.

Static obstacles don’t work, except for the people who contract to build obstacles.
If we choose to use physical force along a 2000 mile border it will have to be mobile, mostly aviation. That means someone would have to be willing to shoot up families. We will find another answer.

43 jaunte  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:04:49pm

One reason the fence is not really a good answer:

By making it possible for American farmers to sell their crops abroad for considerably less than it costs to grow them, USDA subsidies help determine the price of corn in Mexico and whether farmers in that country are forced off the land, to migrate to the cities—or to the United States. The problem is exacerbated by the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), which eliminated the barriers to U.S. agricultural imports that had protected Mexican farmers.[Link: www.thesocialcontract.com…]
44 reine.de.tout  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:05:04pm

OT, posting this now because I need to run for a bit:


Administration Response to Oil Spill — past 24 hours

Full timeline of administration response

Photos - oil on Chandeleur Islands, LA

And finally, more oyster beds closed; GAH, I’m so glad I had way too many chargrilled and fried oysters for lunch one day last week!

45 jamesfirecat  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:05:04pm

re: #42 Decatur Deb

Static obstacles don’t work, except for the people who contract to build obstacles.
If we choose to use physical force along a 2000 mile border it will have to be mobile, mostly aviation. That means someone would have to be willing to shoot up families. We will find another answer.

Don’t forget even if we build a f**ing fence all along the boarder, people will just raft to the US through the Gulf of Mexico.

46 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:05:29pm

Stardate 45254.7: The events of the early 21st century are still deeply embarrassing to the human members of the United Federation of Planets.
Image: 3495258593_67fa08d361.jpg
Of course, it doesn’t help that the damned Vulcans lord it over us every chance they get. Apparently smugness is the one emotion the Kolinahr ritual doesn’t address.

47 HappyWarrior  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:05:43pm

one of us?

48 austin_blue  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:05:51pm

re: #20 Racer X

I’m not that outraged. I liked it. Build the dang fence.

The Champion of Immigration Reform cravenly sucking cock?

Are you un-outrageable?

((Pardon for the hideous adjectival construction.))

49 fat bastard vegetarian  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:06:01pm

re: #45 jamesfirecat

Don’t forget even if we build a f**ing fence all along the boarder, people will just raft to the US through the Gulf of Mexico.

Mutant frickin’ sea bass with frickin’ lasers attached to their frickin’ heads!

50 freetoken  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:06:03pm

Lot’s of tornadoes in the lower plains today. One guy, Scott Weberpal got some dramatically close photos:

debris in the air

multiple vortices

51 darthstar  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:06:10pm

John McDang. I’m sorry, but I’m so flabbergasted by the corniness of this commercial, I can’t even mock the poor bastard. I only hope McCain gets to spend enough time after this election reflecting on his failure as a candidate to regret every mistake he’s made going back at least as far as Sarah Palin.

52 Racer X  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:06:34pm

re: #39 fat bastard vegetarian

Oh! I should also say, “Build the fuckin’ fence”. I agree. But, geeze, John.

McCain was never known as a hipster. He makes John Kerry look like a member of the Rat Pack.

53 Stanley Sea  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:07:09pm

From Dave Weigel today:

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) on the need to build a fence on the U.S.-Mexico border, January 2007:

I think the fence is least effective. But I’ll build the goddamned fence if they want it.

McCain again in September 2008:

What my plan was, and what our proposal was, that we secure our borders, and we can secure it, not necessarily with walls and fences. Although that is important in populated areas, in the deserts of Arizona vehicle barriers, cameras, and sensors, all of those things, can be used.

[Link: voices.washingtonpost.com…]

54 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:07:10pm

re: #43 jaunte

One reason the fence is not really a good answer:

eh. why people want to immigrate is a different question than why the system for allowing them to immigrate efficiently is so broken…

55 avanti  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:07:12pm

Now Redstate has picked the Briebart sites story of Mullah Omar’s capture, but still no confirmation from anywhere else.

56 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:07:32pm

re: #44 reine.de.toutAnd finally, more oyster beds closed; GAH, I’m so glad I had way too many chargrilled and fried oysters for lunch one day last week!

Imitation oysters are easy to make. All you need are some shells and a friend with a sinus infection.

57 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:07:45pm

re: #50 freetoken

Lot’s of tornadoes in the lower plains today. One guy, Scott Weberpal got some dramatically close photos:

debris in the air

multiple vortices

For the record, fluid physics is my field. We are going to see a lot more of this as time goes on. And oh yes, even though no single event can be proof or disproof of AGW, the trends are going to be clear.

58 brookly red  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:07:47pm

OK, so the census people call me (I have caller ID & it was them) & tell me there has been a mistake and my paycheck is being deposited into another employees account… the problem is I am not working for the census. It seems that I am on their data base as an employee & turning in a time sheet for 40 hours a week… odd is that?

OK, so I call the cops… the Social Security, the FTC, the IRS, the State Dept. of Labor, the DA & the DOJ … funny not one agency can tell me in real time if income is being declared against my ss#… so someone in the census in a position high enough to approve time sheets is collecting a check in my name & the only people that notice are the folks at unemployment … does it seem strange that I want to report a case of fraud & 5 government agencies don’t want to take the complaint? wtf?

59 fat bastard vegetarian  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:08:30pm

re: #52 Racer X

I wouldn’t go that far. Unless you mean Peter Lawford. He was pretty much the uncool guy who got the leftover chicks that Frank and Sammy didn’t want to bang.

60 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:08:51pm

re: #57 LudwigVanQuixote

For the record, fluid physics is my field. We are going to see a lot more of this as time goes on. And oh yes, even though no single event can be proof or disproof of AGW, the trends are going to be clear.

don’t we expect the poles to warm at a faster rate than the equatorial zones?

61 Olsonist  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:08:54pm

re: #52 Racer X

McCain was never known as a hipster. He makes John Kerry look like a member of the Rat Pack.

That’s not true. McCain was a party animal. He graduated at the bottom of his Academy class. He revels in his SNL performances. Blithering nonsense.

62 fat bastard vegetarian  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:08:59pm

re: #56 negativ

That was funny as shit.

63 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:09:36pm

re: #55 avanti

Now Redstate has picked the Briebart sites story of Mullah Omar’s capture, but still no confirmation from anywhere else.

Give it 24-48 hours.

I hope they got the bastard.

In the mean time we can read the socons masturbating over the tortures they want to inflict. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a very dangerous enemy and he needs to be taken out, but you know the real sadist pervs out there are going to go nuts.

64 Vicious Babushka  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:09:42pm

re: #58 brookly red

OK, so the census people call me (I have caller ID & it was them) & tell me there has been a mistake and my paycheck is being deposited into another employees account… the problem is I am not working for the census. It seems that I am on their data base as an employee & turning in a time sheet for 40 hours a week… odd is that?

OK, so I call the cops… the Social Security, the FTC, the IRS, the State Dept. of Labor, the DA & the DOJ … funny not one agency can tell me in real time if income is being declared against my ss#… so someone in the census in a position high enough to approve time sheets is collecting a check in my name & the only people that notice are the folks at unemployment … does it seem strange that I want to report a case of fraud & 5 government agencies don’t want to take the complaint? wtf?

Good luck getting the IRS to not collect tax from you on this income that somebody else is collecting.

65 Racer X  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:10:13pm

re: #48 austin_blue

I guess my outrage tolerance level is a bit higher.

/thanks for the mental image btw.

66 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:10:16pm

re: #60 Aceofwhat?

don’t we expect the poles to warm at a faster rate than the equatorial zones?

Yes and it has been measured. The biggest contributors to that are feedbacks with ice loss and current shifts.

67 fat bastard vegetarian  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:10:19pm

re: #58 brookly red

Give them the correct account number.

The money will be deposited in Nigerian Currency.

68 austin_blue  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:10:36pm

re: #56 negativ

And finally, more oyster beds closed; GAH, I’m so glad I had way too many chargrilled and fried oysters for lunch one day last week!


Imitation oysters are easy to make. All you need are some shells and a friend with a sinus infection.

Oh, eeeew.

Nothin’ finer than a fresh erster, a drop of tabasco, a smidge of horseradish, and a dollop of catsup (or ketchup).

Heaven on the half shell.

69 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:10:58pm

re: #42 Decatur Deb

Static obstacles don’t work, except for the people who contract to build obstacles.
If we choose to use physical force along a 2000 mile border it will have to be mobile, mostly aviation. That means someone would have to be willing to shoot up families. We will find another answer.

Partially agree. Fixed defenses can work, but only if they have humans able to defend them. And drones can work, but only for recon except when we are dealing with targets with confirmed hostile intent. We must indeed avoid killing families.

70 brookly red  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:11:03pm

re: #58 brookly red

OK, so the census people call me (I have caller ID & it was them) & tell me there has been a mistake and my paycheck is being deposited into another employees account… the problem is I am not working for the census. It seems that I am on their data base as an employee & turning in a time sheet for 40 hours a week… odd is that?

OK, so I call the cops… the Social Security, the FTC, the IRS, the State Dept. of Labor, the DA & the DOJ … funny not one agency can tell me in real time if income is being declared against my ss#… so someone in the census in a position high enough to approve time sheets is collecting a check in my name & the only people that notice are the folks at unemployment … does it seem strange that I want to report a case of fraud & 5 government agencies don’t want to take the complaint? wtf?

this is not a joke.

71 fat bastard vegetarian  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:11:18pm

re: #61 Olsonist

That’s not true. McCain was a party animal. He graduated at the bottom of his Academy class. He revels in his SNL performances. Blithering nonsense.

Dude. John McCain singing Barbra Streisand was freaking hysterical.

72 jaunte  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:11:37pm

re: #54 Aceofwhat?

eh. why people want to immigrate is a different question than why the system for allowing them to immigrate efficiently is so broken…

I think the unforeseen result of supporting our large corn producers is increased immigration, and it’s the farm workers who are coming.

73 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:11:40pm

re: #58 brookly red

OK, so the census people call me (I have caller ID & it was them) & tell me there has been a mistake and my paycheck is being deposited into another employees account… the problem is I am not working for the census. It seems that I am on their data base as an employee & turning in a time sheet for 40 hours a week… odd is that?

OK, so I call the cops… the Social Security, the FTC, the IRS, the State Dept. of Labor, the DA & the DOJ … funny not one agency can tell me in real time if income is being declared against my ss#… so someone in the census in a position high enough to approve time sheets is collecting a check in my name & the only people that notice are the folks at unemployment … does it seem strange that I want to report a case of fraud & 5 government agencies don’t want to take the complaint? wtf?

that is completely messed up. You know this, but you need to stay on it hard.

74 jamesfirecat  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:11:52pm

re: #63 LudwigVanQuixote

Give it 24-48 hours.

I hope they got the bastard.

In the mean time we can read the socons masturbating over the tortures they want to inflict. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a very dangerous enemy and he needs to be taken out, but you know the real sadist pervs out there are going to go nuts.

Also they can start preforming quire practice for how capturing this guy does not reflect well on Obama in any way shape or form.

75 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:12:04pm

re: #7 Killgore Trout

Gooble gobble, gooble gobble!

76 researchok  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:12:47pm

re: #58 brookly red

OK, so the census people call me (I have caller ID & it was them) & tell me there has been a mistake and my paycheck is being deposited into another employees account… the problem is I am not working for the census. It seems that I am on their data base as an employee & turning in a time sheet for 40 hours a week… odd is that?

OK, so I call the cops… the Social Security, the FTC, the IRS, the State Dept. of Labor, the DA & the DOJ … funny not one agency can tell me in real time if income is being declared against my ss#… so someone in the census in a position high enough to approve time sheets is collecting a check in my name & the only people that notice are the folks at unemployment … does it seem strange that I want to report a case of fraud & 5 government agencies don’t want to take the complaint? wtf?

Call local media.

They will ump all over this

77 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:12:49pm

re: #51 darthstar

John McDang. I’m sorry, but I’m so flabbergasted by the corniness of this commercial, I can’t even mock the poor bastard. I only hope McCain gets to spend enough time after this election reflecting on his failure as a candidate to regret every mistake he’s made going back at least as far as Sarah Palin.

it’s too bad, really. folks in Arizona are fed up, on balance. with their patience tossed out of the window, they’re embracing clumsy solutions faster than reasonable people can talk them out of it.

78 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:13:51pm

re: #74 jamesfirecat

Also they can start preforming quire practice for how capturing this guy does not reflect well on Obama in any way shape or form.

Oh yeah… I am sure they will. I suppose they will bitch that we are not water boarding him and whine that those damn liberals want to fluff his pillow at gitmo or some such. Either that or they will just ignore the fact that Obama is actually making a fight of it.

79 freetoken  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:14:06pm

re: #60 Aceofwhat?

re: #57 LudwigVanQuixote

As far as tornadoes go, it will be interesting to watch the change over the decades. If the Hadley cells enlarge and move northward, and thus the jet streams move northward, the lower plains might see a decrease in tornadoes, while the upper plains might see an increase.

It’s an area of speculation, and I’ve not seen any definitive work on how US tornado distribution will change.

80 Racer X  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:14:28pm

re: #58 brookly red

OK, so the census people call me (I have caller ID & it was them) & tell me there has been a mistake and my paycheck is being deposited into another employees account… the problem is I am not working for the census. It seems that I am on their data base as an employee & turning in a time sheet for 40 hours a week… odd is that?

OK, so I call the cops… the Social Security, the FTC, the IRS, the State Dept. of Labor, the DA & the DOJ … funny not one agency can tell me in real time if income is being declared against my ss#… so someone in the census in a position high enough to approve time sheets is collecting a check in my name & the only people that notice are the folks at unemployment … does it seem strange that I want to report a case of fraud & 5 government agencies don’t want to take the complaint? wtf?

Call FoxNews.

They will get a boner and do special report.

81 austin_blue  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:14:36pm

re: #65 Racer X

I guess my outrage tolerance level is a bit higher.

/thanks for the mental image btw.

Anytime! Desperate time call for desperate measures by our elected officials!

82 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:14:52pm

re: #77 Aceofwhat?

it’s too bad, really. folks in Arizona are fed up, on balance. with their patience tossed out of the window, they’re embracing clumsy solutions faster than reasonable people can talk them out of it.

And you have to love the GOP mantra it is DC’s fault for doing nothing, when it was the GOP that scuttled their own president for addressing the issue.

83 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:15:06pm

re: #61 Olsonist

That’s not true. McCain was a party animal. He graduated at the bottom of his Academy class. He revels in his SNL performances. Blithering nonsense.

That bring me to another thing that bothers me: No one who earned the rank of Captain in the United States Navy should even allow himself to be associated with the phrase “the plan is perfect”. He literally can’t believe that, given all that he has seen, done and read.

84 teleskiguy  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:15:12pm

McCain used the word DANG.
Great. Fucking great. This is American politics. LGF, indeed, can be a godsend sometimes.

85 Nimed  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:15:24pm

What a blunder. Apparently, the cop featured in the ad is an illegal alien*.
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* The bald guy in the picture is Italian and one of the most famous soccer referees in the world, ok?

86 avanti  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:15:28pm

re: #63 LudwigVanQuixote

Give it 24-48 hours.

I hope they got the bastard.

In the mean time we can read the socons masturbating over the tortures they want to inflict. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a very dangerous enemy and he needs to be taken out, but you know the real sadist pervs out there are going to go nuts.

Now, HA picked it up (skeptically)

“I’m skeptical, but Breitbart is beaming this out at both Big Journalism and Big Government so Brad Thor’s sources must be decent. The left will rub AB’s face in a pile of shinola if it doesn’t pan out and he knows it only too well.

Fingers crossed.”

87 freetoken  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:15:34pm

re: #70 brookly red

this is not a joke.

Someone likely just “invented” a SS# and it happened to be yours (you won!) Or a case of stolen identity, which means you better be checking in with all your institutions.

88 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:15:41pm

re: #79 freetoken

re: #57 LudwigVanQuixote

As far as tornadoes go, it will be interesting to watch the change over the decades. If the Hadley cells enlarge and move northward, and thus the jet streams move northward, the lower plains might see a decrease in tornadoes, while the upper plains might see an increase.

It’s an area of speculation, and I’ve not seen any definitive work on how US tornado distribution will change.

It’s hard to simulate. We can say though that there will be more of them of more intensity for some time.

89 webevintage  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:15:42pm

re: #79 freetoken

re: #57 LudwigVanQuixote

It’s an area of speculation, and I’ve not seen any definitive work on how US tornado distribution will change.

It would be nice if they would begin avoiding the I30 corridor in Arkansas….that would make me very happy.

90 swamprat  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:15:49pm

Let me go to the one state where building the fence could be associated with bigotry and racism.Sure, I could go to Texas, or New Mexico, or California; but those states are not being painted as batshit crazy. No, I’ll go to ARI-fucking-ZONA!
The One, Single, and Only state, where support for building the fence is an absolute, sure signal to every racist, bigoted, nutso separatist, xenophobic asshole. that I understand and support their psychosis!

I’m John McCain, and I pander to racists.

/We need the fence, but not at this price.
Build the friggin’ fence, but do it honestly. I support tag and release immigration.
Let ‘em in. Let ‘em work. Keep track of who and how many. And don’t force them to work illegally so they work for less. Play the game honestly.

91 Racer X  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:16:14pm

re: #84 teleskiguy

McCain used the word DANG.
Great. Fucking great. This is American politics. LGF, indeed, can be a godsend sometimes.

Ubetcha!

92 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:16:15pm

OT - Jack Bauer went medieval on a Russian tonight. With a pair of pliers and a blowtorch. I always wondered what that would look like.

93 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:16:54pm

re: #58 brookly red

OK, so the census people call me (I have caller ID & it was them) & tell me there has been a mistake and my paycheck is being deposited into another employees account… the problem is I am not working for the census. It seems that I am on their data base as an employee & turning in a time sheet for 40 hours a week… odd is that?

OK, so I call the cops… the Social Security, the FTC, the IRS, the State Dept. of Labor, the DA & the DOJ … funny not one agency can tell me in real time if income is being declared against my ss#… so someone in the census in a position high enough to approve time sheets is collecting a check in my name & the only people that notice are the folks at unemployment … does it seem strange that I want to report a case of fraud & 5 government agencies don’t want to take the complaint? wtf?

dude, i posted this earlier this year, but i got a second set of tax refund checks from 2005 and 2006 in January because the IRS literally lost all record of my having submitted my returns for those years. i spent nearly two years trying to get them to understand that they’d already processed those returns but i didn’t have my copies anymore…so you paid me double.

there are plenty of good folks who work for the govt but it’s not how you’d ever want to run a productive enterprise. the IRS has systems that can’t even interface with each other, for crying out loud. i almost wept in their office when i learned that…

94 prairiefire  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:16:55pm

re: #79 freetoken

Purely anecdotal, but it seems to me the last 2 years the storms with the tornado producing cells have been dropping a bit to the south of us here in KC. I hear about more twisters in Arkansas, mid Missouri, and all of Illinois.

95 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:17:42pm

re: #79 freetoken

re: #57 LudwigVanQuixote

As far as tornadoes go, it will be interesting to watch the change over the decades. If the Hadley cells enlarge and move northward, and thus the jet streams move northward, the lower plains might see a decrease in tornadoes, while the upper plains might see an increase.

It’s an area of speculation, and I’ve not seen any definitive work on how US tornado distribution will change.

agree - lots of variables at play in these projections, it seems…

96 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:18:22pm

re: #69 Dark_Falcon

Partially agree. Fixed defenses can work, but only if they have humans able to defend them. And drones can work, but only for recon except when we are dealing with targets with confirmed hostile intent. We must indeed avoid killing families.

On the other hand, in a thousand years or so, we can show the Chinese tourists our wall.

97 fat bastard vegetarian  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:18:38pm

re: #74 jamesfirecat

Quire? Really?

You been studying hard?

I think you need to take a break.

98 jamesfirecat  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:18:57pm

re: #86 avanti

Now, HA picked it up (skeptically)

“I’m skeptical, but Breitbart is beaming this out at both Big Journalism and Big Government so Brad Thor’s sources must be decent. The left will rub AB’s face in a pile of shinola if it doesn’t pan out and he knows it only too well.

Fingers crossed.”

So we either get mock Breitbart or celebrate capturing a major terrorists.

Dare I say it but I think even we liberals can’t screw this one up!

99 Racer X  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:19:45pm

re: #98 jamesfirecat

So we either get mock Breitbart or celebrate capturing a major terrorists.

Dare I say it but I think even we liberals can’t screw this one up!

Place your bets!

100 jamesfirecat  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:20:08pm

re: #97 fat bastard vegetarian

Quire? Really?

You been studying hard?

I think you need to take a break.

Hey it’s a semi acceptable spelling…..

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

101 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:20:20pm

re: #82 LudwigVanQuixote

And you have to love the GOP mantra it is DC’s fault for doing nothing, when it was the GOP that scuttled their own president for addressing the issue.

you’ll find no disagreement here. W’s plan was a good sight better than doing nothing, or resorting to AZ-style frustration. i was infuriated at the right for that episode.

102 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:20:50pm

re: #70 brookly red

this is not a joke.

They’ll listen to your congressman, and he’ll listen to you if you show him that you know his opposition’s number. (Have you used the Fraud, Waste, and abuse hotlines?)

103 engineer cat  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:21:44pm

can somebody tell me where all these illegal mexican folks are going to work and why the arizonians aren’t all up in arms to prosecute the employers?

104 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:22:11pm

re: #103 engineer dog

can somebody tell me where all these illegal mexican folks are going to work and why the arizonians aren’t all up in arms to prosecute the employers?

Because the employers are Republicans.

105 fat bastard vegetarian  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:22:24pm

re: #100 jamesfirecat

Hey it’s a semi acceptable spelling…

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

You believe new math too?

I’ve never seen that as an acceptable spelling of choir. But, you win.

It’s right there.

106 Racer X  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:22:35pm

re: #104 LudwigVanQuixote

Because the employers are Republicans.

Link?

107 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:22:48pm

re: #84 teleskiguy

McCain used the word DANG.
Great. Fucking great. This is American politics. LGF, indeed, can be a godsend sometimes.

I wish he’d made an internet-only version where he said “build the fucking fence” which is what he’d really say if a camera wasn’t rolling. A version showing that would seen more natural and effective.

108 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:22:58pm

re: #72 jaunte

I think the unforeseen result of supporting our large corn producers is increased immigration, and it’s the farm workers who are coming.

oh, i hate the subsidies - i’m with you there - but free trade is generally a good thing.

would it kill Mexico to work on some sort of economic progress, though? talk about your nasty unions…yikes…

109 jaunte  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:22:59pm

re: #103 engineer dog

Cheap labor is an addictive drug.

110 Sheepdogess  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:23:04pm

Ahhh, McCain.

The media’s choice for the liberal communist opposition.

Brilliant politics!

What a bunch of cowards.

Gonna go collect eggs, better late than never.

111 jamesfirecat  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:23:53pm

re: #106 Racer X

Link?

/What isn’t a well known fact that all captains of industry are do it yourself bootstrap climbing Republicans?

112 oklahoma  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:24:16pm

Bumper sticker: Because I’m John McCain, and I’ll say anything to get re-elected.”

113 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:24:23pm

re: #106 Racer X

Link?

Well, just out of curiosity, why is it the that Dems are happy to push immigration reform talk in DC and the GOP isn’t?

Just asking?

114 Gus  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:24:41pm

Fine. Build the damned fence. Just do it and get it over with. Tired of hearing about that border fence and in the long run we’ll spend more money debating the merits of this fence then if they would just build it now.

115 fat bastard vegetarian  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:24:44pm

re: #107 Dark_Falcon

I wish he’d made an internet-only version where he said “build the fucking fence” which is what he’d really say if a camera wasn’t rolling. A version showing that would seen more natural and effective.

My wife’s from the Mid-west. Very nice people there. Very wholesome. They use words like ‘Cripes.’ For Cripe’s sake. Who would that be, Jesus Cripes? The son of ‘Gosh?’ of the church of ‘Holy Moly’. I’m not making fun of it You think I wanna burn in ‘Heck’?
-George Carlin

116 Vicious Babushka  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:24:50pm

re: #71 fat bastard vegetarian

Dude. John McCain singing Barbra Streisand was freaking hysterical.

117 jaunte  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:25:14pm

re: #108 Aceofwhat?

Yeah, not much help there.

118 What, me worry?  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:25:22pm

re: #58 brookly red

OK, so the census people call me (I have caller ID & it was them) & tell me there has been a mistake and my paycheck is being deposited into another employees account… the problem is I am not working for the census. It seems that I am on their data base as an employee & turning in a time sheet for 40 hours a week… odd is that?

OK, so I call the cops… the Social Security, the FTC, the IRS, the State Dept. of Labor, the DA & the DOJ … funny not one agency can tell me in real time if income is being declared against my ss#… so someone in the census in a position high enough to approve time sheets is collecting a check in my name & the only people that notice are the folks at unemployment … does it seem strange that I want to report a case of fraud & 5 government agencies don’t want to take the complaint? wtf?

Did you call the local census bureau? Was the number that called you local? Either way it’s probably still in your phone. They’d probably like to know.

119 jamesfirecat  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:25:36pm

re: #114 Gus 802

Fine. Build the damned fence. Just do it and get it over with. Tired of hearing about that border fence and in the long run we’ll spend more money debating the merits of this fence then if they would just build it now.

Since we, have a big expense here
Who will, have to build the fence here?
Guys like Juan!

(Capital Steps)

120 Gus  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:25:53pm

re: #110 Sheepdogess

Ahhh, McCain.

The media’s choice for the liberal communist opposition.

Brilliant politics!

What a bunch of cowards.

Gonna go collect eggs, better late than never.

Well, if you live in Arizona you can either vote for McCain or Mongo.

121 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:25:59pm

re: #103 engineer dog

can somebody tell me where all these illegal mexican folks are going to work and why the arizonians aren’t all up in arms to prosecute the employers?

because it’s the employer’s job to verify paperwork, and you can submit all different kinds of easily forged paperwork as proof of your gainful employment status.

i’d prefer that folks stop asking employers to be the FBI, and start getting pissed that the government is too leadfooted to provide an efficient and accurate method of verification…

122 jamesfirecat  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:26:12pm

re: #120 Gus 802

Well, if you live in Arizona you can either vote for McCain or Mongo.

Mongo? Santa Maria!

123 teleskiguy  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:26:33pm

re: #107 Dark_Falcon

I wish he’d made an internet-only version where he said “build the fucking fence” which is what he’d really say if a camera wasn’t rolling. A version showing that would seen more natural and effective.

That’s a splendid fucking idea! I’m telling Hickenlooper and McInnis that for our Guv campaign coming up here soon. Then we’ll get the REAL GUTTER POLITICS!

124 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:27:11pm

re: #121 Aceofwhat?

because it’s the employer’s job to verify paperwork, and you can submit all different kinds of easily forged paperwork as proof of your gainful employment status.

i’d prefer that folks stop asking employers to be the FBI, and start getting pissed that the government is too leadfooted to provide an efficient and accurate method of verification…

Oh come on. When people go in trucks to pick up waiting day laborers they know full well what they are doing.

125 avanti  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:27:14pm

re: #98 jamesfirecat

So we either get mock Breitbart or celebrate capturing a major terrorists.

Dare I say it but I think even we liberals can’t screw this one up!

Yep, terrific news, or just good news. BTW, the typical suspects are already spinning it against Obama without confirmation. (Miranda rights, etc.)

126 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:27:22pm

re: #70 brookly red

I would contact a lawyer, quickly. You need to jump on this, and get it fixed. It sounds like either someone is using your SSN, or it’s a typo, and a mistake. Either way, YOU will be the one who gets penalized, so YOU need to be the one to get it fixed. A police report is a start.

127 Racer X  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:27:36pm

re: #113 LudwigVanQuixote

Well, just out of curiosity, why is it the that Dems are happy to push immigration reform talk in DC and the GOP isn’t?

Just asking?

That doesn’t answer the question. Not all who employee illegals are R.

128 Gus  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:27:40pm

re: #122 jamesfirecat

Mongo? Santa Maria!

Nice choice of music! Fire up the Victrola!

129 fat bastard vegetarian  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:27:42pm

re: #112 oklahoma

Bumper sticker: Because I’m John McCain, and I’ll say anything to get re-elected.”

Whoa there, pardner. Slow down a bit.

We’re bangin’ on John right now, sure. But, pandering is NOT a McCain-centric problem. It’s the whole damn lot of ‘em.

130 freetoken  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:28:21pm

Another neat image, from a different shooter (Verne Carlson) of the same tornado, that shows the multi-vortex nature of these large tornadoes well:

multiple vortices


So let’s see if I can get this back on topic…

To me, the Tea Party movement is like a large wedge tornado, made up of multiple vortices all revolving around each other. One vortex is the Fed conspiracy mindset (BUY GOLD!!), another vortex is the creationist/anti-science whirlwind, and yet another is the cultural-racism vortex, not to be confused with the genetic-racism vortex that is part of the same mix. Then there is the Libertarian Fundamentalism vortex. And so on.

All combined into one large wedge tornado that is leaving a path of destruction through the GOP and the American body politic.

131 avanti  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:28:23pm

re: #113 LudwigVanQuixote

Well, just out of curiosity, why is it the that Dems are happy to push immigration reform talk in DC and the GOP isn’t?

Just asking?

The GOP was for it before they were against it, McCain included.

132 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:28:33pm

re: #127 Racer X

That doesn’t answer the question. Not all who employee illegals are R.

NO but the ones who have the sway in the GOP sufficiently to cause this much uproar certainly are.

133 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:28:36pm

Don’t get too excited about the Mullah Omar news from Brietbart. He’s spinning it as an” Obama’s clueless and Hillary’s stupid” thing. Probably not true bu we’ll see.

134 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:29:15pm

re: #133 Killgore Trout

Don’t get too excited about the Mullah Omar news from Brietbart. He’s spinning it as an” Obama’s clueless and Hillary’s stupid” thing. Probably not true bu we’ll see.

ahh he’s backing down already?

135 jamesfirecat  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:29:45pm

re: #133 Killgore Trout

Don’t get too excited about the Mullah Omar news from Brietbart. He’s spinning it as an” Obama’s clueless and Hillary’s stupid” thing. Probably not true bu we’ll see.

How is it possible to spin “we captured a major terrorist” as a bad thing for the current people in charge?

And while you answer I’ll just tank a nice long sip from this 72 ounce lemonade slurpee….

136 What, me worry?  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:30:09pm

Let’s just all hope McCain beats Hayworth… How are they polling?

137 avanti  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:30:40pm

re: #133 Killgore Trout

Don’t get too excited about the Mullah Omar news from Brietbart. He’s spinning it as an” Obama’s clueless and Hillary’s stupid” thing. Probably not true bu we’ll see.

If Obama was seen walking on the water, they’d say it’s because he does not know how to swim.

139 fat bastard vegetarian  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:31:10pm

re: #135 jamesfirecat

And while you answer I’ll just tank a nice long sip from this 72 ounce lemonade slurpee…

I just got…
1. Brain freeze
2. Diabetes
3. the urge to pee.

Thanks.

140 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:31:11pm

re: #134 LudwigVanQuixote

He’s not backing down and probably never will but his last big exclusive story was the heavily edited and dishonest ACORN tapes so it’s a safe assumption that he’s full of shit.

141 Gus  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:31:14pm

re: #129 fat bastard vegetarian

Whoa there, pardner. Slow down a bit.

We’re bangin’ on John right now, sure. But, pandering is NOT a McCain-centric problem. It’s the whole damn lot of ‘em.

Pandering is part of the curriculum for all political graduates. Pandering 101 and 102 all the way up to graduate studies in pandering.

/That and either the Kennedy voice or the Boss Hog voice. Also have to get the hand mannerisms down too.

/

142 Racer X  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:32:10pm

re: #132 LudwigVanQuixote

NO but the ones who have the sway in the GOP sufficiently to cause this much uproar certainly are.

OK. I’ll fix your post then:

re: #104 LudwigVanQuixote

Because the some most employers are Republicans.

143 fat bastard vegetarian  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:32:48pm

re: #141 Gus 802

He makes the rules
And he intends
To keep it that-a-way
What’s good for General Bullmoose
Is good for the USA!
-Lil’ Abner

144 Reginald Perrin  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:32:49pm

re: #135 jamesfirecat

How is it possible to spin “we captured a major terrorist” as a bad thing for the current people in charge?

I have no idea how the sane could spin it as a bad thing but I am offering 5 to 1 that the intellectual midgets at the stalker/hate blog will find a way.

145 avanti  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:32:51pm

re: #135 jamesfirecat

How is it possible to spin “we captured a major terrorist” as a bad thing for the current people in charge?

And while you answer I’ll just tank a nice long sip from this 72 ounce lemonade slurpee…

He only did it to take the press off covering the story about his responsibility for the oil spill and Tennessee flood. /

146 austin_blue  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:33:41pm

re: #88 LudwigVanQuixote

It’s hard to simulate. We can say though that there will be more of them of more intensity for some time.

My buddy Bruce Sterling posited in a novel (Heavy Weather) that if if surface temperatures increase enough in the spring to say, 103 degrees, that a late low pressure system, combined with a high stuck south of the Texas/Louisiana border could pump enough moisture into the core of the low system to form a 50-mile wide F-6 tornado with 300-MPH winds. Interesting thought experiment. Not a bad book.

147 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:33:45pm

re: #124 LudwigVanQuixote

Oh come on. When people go in trucks to pick up waiting day laborers they know full well what they are doing.

dude, there’s a recession on, and it involves not constructing things.

there are lots of illegals gainfully employed, having shown their employers a purportedly legal document.

those employers are not at fault.

if you pick up a day laborer, you must not have checked their documents. so my point still stands. the only employers at fault here are the ones who didn’t actually follow the rules.

that’s a different statement than just “going after the employers”.

148 freetoken  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:34:10pm

Scott Weberpal’s video from today:

149 fat bastard vegetarian  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:34:48pm

Be funny if he was delivered to the mail box with a packing slip that read, “Major Award”. We could put him in The White House’s front window… lampshade on his head… fishnet stockings…

150 HoosierHoops  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:35:12pm

Update..Magic sweep the Hawks and the Lakers are on next…

151 brookly red  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:35:19pm

re: #126 Floral Giraffe

I would contact a lawyer, quickly. You need to jump on this, and get it fixed. It sounds like either someone is using your SSN, or it’s a typo, and a mistake. Either way, YOU will be the one who gets penalized, so YOU need to be the one to get it fixed. A police report is a start.

you know what, I am starting not to give a crap… I think I will just e-mail Fox an let them have at it. The police can’t investigate till I provide a statement form the SS people who can’t get back to me till the 3rd quarter data is in… maybe Rush can do something… I am damn pissed.

152 Gus  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:35:25pm

re: #143 fat bastard vegetarian

He makes the rules
And he intends
To keep it that-a-way
What’s good for General Bullmoose
Is good for the USA!
-Lil’ Abner

“If elected, I promise to finish fixing this here park. Once that’s done I intend to fully fund the Elmer Gentry Boy Scout Camp so you can send your fine boys to summer camp. And I intend to see that each and every one of you has a new car in your garage before my second year!”

/No reference just something I whipped up.”

153 Sheepdogess  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:35:40pm

re: #120 Gus 802

Mongo? Can’t find any info on mongo in Arizona? Please help. Sorry, I’m just farmer.

154 What, me worry?  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:35:47pm

re: #137 avanti

If Obama was seen walking on the water, they’d say it’s because he does not know how to swim.

That was brilliant! I’ll have to remember it!

155 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:35:55pm

re: #149 fat bastard vegetarian

Gene Shepherd upding.

156 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:36:01pm

re: #132 LudwigVanQuixote

NO but the ones who have the sway in the GOP sufficiently to cause this much uproar certainly are.

i’m not following. the R’s who are overzealously pursuing immigrants also seekritly employ them?

seems counterproductive…

157 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:36:08pm

re: #146 austin_blue

My buddy Bruce Sterling posited in a novel (Heavy Weather) that if if surface temperatures increase enough in the spring to say, 103 degrees, that a late low pressure system, combined with a high stuck south of the Texas/Louisiana border could pump enough moisture into the core of the low system to form a 50-mile wide F-6 tornado with 300-MPH winds. Interesting thought experiment. Not a bad book.

Oh more extreme events are a given… As to where they will be, it is hard to model. Free is right that there is a good chance of these weather systems moving north for the reasons he mentioned. I’m just not willing to say it strongly yet.

158 fat bastard vegetarian  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:36:20pm

re: #150 HoosierHoops

Please Lord, let the Lakers go STRAIGHT TO HELL!

159 PT Barnum  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:36:35pm

evening all..what’s going on lizards?

160 Gus  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:36:44pm

re: #153 Sheepdogess

Mongo? Can’t find any info on mongo in Arizona? Please help. Sorry, I’m just farmer.

JD Hayworth be Mongo. Fred Flintstone is just too smart to be Hayworth.

161 Racer X  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:36:52pm

Gotta go.

and

GO LAKERS!

162 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:37:09pm

re: #146 austin_blue

My buddy Bruce Sterling posited in a novel (Heavy Weather) that if if surface temperatures increase enough in the spring to say, 103 degrees, that a late low pressure system, combined with a high stuck south of the Texas/Louisiana border could pump enough moisture into the core of the low system to form a 50-mile wide F-6 tornado with 300-MPH winds. Interesting thought experiment. Not a bad book.

i thought that storm intensity generally correlated with temperature differential between the equator and the poles rather than average surface temperatures per se?

163 brookly red  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:37:23pm

re: #118 marjoriemoon

Did you call the local census bureau? Was the number that called you local? Either way it’s probably still in your phone. They’d probably like to know.

can you say cover up?

164 jamesfirecat  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:37:23pm

re: #156 Aceofwhat?

i’m not following. the R’s who are overzealously pursuing immigrants also seekritly employ them?

seems counterproductive…

The more pressure they put on those who are hear illegally, the worse the working conditions can be without them complaining.

165 jaunte  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:37:31pm

re: #156 Aceofwhat?

They may just be pretending to zealously pursue them. Meanwhile, we have inexpensive produce.
[Link: seamonkey.ed.asu.edu…]

166 fat bastard vegetarian  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:37:37pm

re: #161 Racer X

Gotta go.

and

GO LAKERS STRAIGHT TO HELL!!

167 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:38:00pm

re: #156 Aceofwhat?

i’m not following. the R’s who are overzealously pursuing immigrants also seekritly employ them?

seems counterproductive…

Different R’s, the rich ones who employ them have sway in DC while the rank and file teabaggers are screeching. Why do you think the GOP screamed bloody murder over immigration and used it as an excuse to drop the AGW bill, only to have Obama come out the next day and say that immigration was back as a Dem priority?

168 PT Barnum  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:38:27pm

re: #153 Sheepdogess

Mongo? Can’t find any info on mongo in Arizona? Please help. Sorry, I’m just farmer.

Mongo only pawn in game of life.

169 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:38:32pm

re: #133 Killgore Trout

Don’t get too excited about the Mullah Omar news from Brietbart. He’s spinning it as an” Obama’s clueless and Hillary’s stupid” thing. Probably not true bu we’ll see.

That would be his meme whether the story was true or false. Brack Obama could lead a raid himself that captured the entire leadership of a drug cartel and Andrew Breibart would claim he “got in the way”. If he even had to admit an unqualified success by Obama, his head would explode.

170 fat bastard vegetarian  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:39:08pm

re: #168 PT Barnum

Mongo straight.

171 avanti  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:39:25pm

re: #154 marjoriemoon

That was brilliant! I’ll have to remember it!

I stole it, I’m not that clever.

172 austin_blue  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:39:51pm

re: #157 LudwigVanQuixote

Oh more extreme events are a given… As to where they will be, it is hard to model. Free is right that there is a good chance of these weather systems moving north for the reasons he mentioned. I’m just not willing to say it strongly yet.

Agreed, but they will be moving north with the spring and south with autumn. More extreme events, on average, in both directions. Take a look at the Central Tennessee rainfall totals last weekend.

Welcome to the Greenhouse, and strap in.

173 PT Barnum  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:40:04pm

re: #170 fat bastard vegetarian

Mongo straight.

I have a mongo flush.

174 What, me worry?  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:40:42pm

re: #149 fat bastard vegetarian

Be funny if he was delivered to the mail box with a packing slip that read, “Major Award”. We could put him in The White House’s front window… lampshade on his head… fishnet stockings…

Michelle would accidentally break it.

175 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:40:45pm

re: #172 austin_blue

Agreed, but they will be moving north with the spring and south with autumn. More extreme events, on average, in both directions. Take a look at the Central Tennessee rainfall totals last weekend.

Welcome to the Greenhouse, and strap in.

Which is why I was not ready to say the bulk would move north.

176 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:41:03pm

re: #139 fat bastard vegetarian

And while you answer I’ll just tank a nice long sip from this 72 ounce lemonade slurpee…

I just got…
1. Brain freeze
2. Diabetes
3. the urge to pee.

Thanks.

Does 7-11 have 72 ounce Slurpees now? If so, I’m gonna get one tomorrow.

177 lostlakehiker  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:41:32pm

re: #104 LudwigVanQuixote

Because the employers are Republicans.


If you ran a business, would you make it policy never to hire an illegal alien? Demand papers, double check them, avoid hiring anyone whose papers might be phony?

Employers are rather in a bind here. Where is the policy that is guaranteed to not run afoul of one law or the other?

178 What, me worry?  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:41:33pm

re: #163 brookly red

can you say cover up?

Maybe it sounds silly, but did you try to talk to a supervisor or manager?

179 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:41:42pm

re: #164 jamesfirecat

The more pressure they put on those who are hear illegally, the worse the working conditions can be without them complaining.

oh, come on. austrian economics make more sense than that little conspiracy theory.

if brown people without papers are going to be rounded up, and your business is afloat on the backs of brown people without papers, your employees aren’t going to show up as they get corralled over time and your business will fail…not a difficult concept.

180 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:41:52pm

re: #140 Killgore Trout

He’s not backing down and probably never will but his last big exclusive story was the heavily edited and dishonest ACORN tapes so it’s a safe assumption that he’s full of shit.

A Mullah Baradar was recently captured. Any chance of error on a blog?

[Link: www.google.com…]

181 HoosierHoops  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:41:58pm

re: #158 fat bastard vegetarian

Please Lord, let the Lakers go STRAIGHT TO HELL!

All I care about when the Lakers lose is knowing that Jack Nickelson is sitting naked at his kitchen table with an empty bottle of Vodka at 6am staring out the window over Hollywood…Welcome to the real world jack…

182 Gus  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:42:22pm

re: #170 fat bastard vegetarian

Mongo straight.

Mongo like candy.

183 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:42:45pm

re: #173 PT Barnum

I have a mongo flush.

You still loser. Full house; 8’s over 5’s. Read ‘em and weep. :D

184 Stanley Sea  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:42:58pm

Speaking of walking on water, this was posted earlier. It’s now a sport. Way cool.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

185 fat bastard vegetarian  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:43:01pm

re: #171 avanti

I stole it, I’m not that clever.

I posted it last week here… but I stole it too…

186 PT Barnum  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:43:08pm

re: #176 Dark_Falcon

Does 7-11 have 72 ounce Slurpees now? If so, I’m gonna get one tomorrow.

I’ve been getting the McDonald’s blended frappe…good stuff, though brain freeze is definitely an issue.

If they aren’t in your market, hope they show up soon.

OT, but McDonalds coffee used to be undrinkable, but it’s gotten pretty good in the last year or so. Anybody else have that experience?

187 brookly red  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:43:44pm

re: #178 marjoriemoon

Maybe it sounds silly, but did you try to talk to a supervisor or manager?

they are not in the office at this time… I did a 3 way call with an agent from Lifelock… this is the real deal. Fraud & cover up most foul.

188 PT Barnum  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:43:56pm

re: #183 Dark_Falcon

You still loser. Full house; 8’s over 5’s. Read ‘em and weep. :D

It as a ROYAL mongo flush. Did I forget to mention that?

189 cwnorma  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:44:03pm

I gotta post more…

Best to all Lizards tonight

190 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:45:10pm

re: #150 HoosierHoops

Go Lakers!
Hiya Hoopster!

191 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:45:12pm

re: #177 lostlakehiker

If you ran a business, would you make it policy never to hire an illegal alien? Demand papers, double check them, avoid hiring anyone whose papers might be phony?

Employers are rather in a bind here. Where is the policy that is guaranteed to not run afoul of one law or the other?

Common sense and reasonableness on the part of the investigators and prosecutors. If a company has one or two illegals with good forged documents, then let them off the hook. If the company has 500 working a field or a slaughter house or whatever, then it is a another matter.

One would imagine that in this computerized age, papers would not be the kind of records one would really need. I know I fill out a form with everyone I have worked with and they check databases.

One would imagine that between computerized birth records, tax records, credit records, driving records etc… that it would be pretty easy to determine.

192 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:45:21pm

re: #167 LudwigVanQuixote

Different R’s, the rich ones who employ them have sway in DC while the rank and file teabaggers are screeching. Why do you think the GOP screamed bloody murder over immigration and used it as an excuse to drop the AGW bill, only to have Obama come out the next day and say that immigration was back as a Dem priority?

farm labor aside, because that is legitimately its own animal, rich employers aren’t crusing past Home Depot looking to throw a few idle folks in the back of the F-150.

so again. are republicans bad for overzealously pursuing purported illegal immigrants or bad for selfishly tolerating them in order to exploit them?

because if you say ‘both’, i have gold foil to sell you. it’s a head cover AND an investment…win-win!!11!

193 prairiefire  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:45:32pm

re: #185 fat bastard vegetarian

I posted it last week here… but I stole it too…

Hillary said it first. Maybe she stole it from somewhere else?

194 What, me worry?  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:45:47pm

re: #187 brookly red

they are not in the office at this time… I did a 3 way call with an agent from Lifelock… this is the real deal. Fraud & cover up most foul.

Wow. Scary stuff. How’s Lifelock btw? I’ve seen the ads.

195 Stanley Sea  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:46:06pm

re: #186 PT Barnum

I’ve been getting the McDonald’s blended frappe…good stuff, though brain freeze is definitely an issue.

If they aren’t in your market, hope they show up soon.

OT, but McDonalds coffee used to be undrinkable, but it’s gotten pretty good in the last year or so. Anybody else have that experience?

Yep, and it’s cheaper than the boutique coffee joints. McDonald’s did a big advertising blitz to announce the change. I was influenced & drive through now for coffee.

196 austin_blue  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:46:08pm

re: #175 LudwigVanQuixote

Which is why I was not ready to say the bulk would move north.

Exactly.

197 fat bastard vegetarian  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:46:09pm

re: #193 prairiefire

Hillary said it first. Maybe she stole it from somewhere else?

I first heard it as a woman preacher joke… ten years ago?…

198 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:46:20pm

re: #151 brookly red

you know what, I am starting not to give a crap… I think I will just e-mail Fox an let them have at it. The police can’t investigate till I provide a statement form the SS people who can’t get back to me till the 3rd quarter data is in… maybe Rush can do something… I am damn pissed.

Well, just be clear on the fact that it is YOU who will have to get this cleaned up. So, don’t just ignore it.

199 prairiefire  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:46:50pm

re: #197 fat bastard vegetarian

I first heard it as a woman preacher joke… ten years ago?…

Yeah, it has a bit of a wheeze to it./

200 PT Barnum  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:46:56pm

re: #193 prairiefire

If he healed the sick, they’d complain he was practicing medicine without a license.

If he parted the red sea, they’d get environmentalist on his ass.

If he changed water into wine, they’d complain he’d put the wineries out of business.

201 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:47:02pm

re: #158 fat bastard vegetarian

No, but thank you for playing!

202 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:47:26pm

re: #181 HoosierHoops

All I care about when the Lakers lose is knowing that Jack Nickelson is sitting naked at his kitchen table with an empty bottle of Vodka at 6am staring out the window over Hollywood…Welcome to the real world jack…

Heh. Actually, Jack is the only thing i like about the Lakers. I can’t dislike Jack…i just can’t.

203 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:47:29pm

re: #186 PT Barnum

I’ve been getting the McDonald’s blended frappe…good stuff, though brain freeze is definitely an issue.

If they aren’t in your market, hope they show up soon.

OT, but McDonalds coffee used to be undrinkable, but it’s gotten pretty good in the last year or so. Anybody else have that experience?

They’ve got the McCafe here too, and I hate it. I’m trying to order breakfast while some goofball at the front of the line is holding things up for 5 minute while they make him some complicated coffee drink. I know those sell well, but they annoy the heck out of me sometimes.

204 fat bastard vegetarian  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:47:43pm

I’ll see you guys in the morning.

Save some of the Earth for me to save when I get up. Don’t hog it all to yourselves.

G’night knuckleheads.

205 HoosierHoops  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:48:02pm

re: #190 Floral Giraffe

Go Lakers!
Hiya Hoopster!

Hi you! Hope you are well..The Lakers will win tonight..It’s a sweep..
The Magic are monsters but I’d love to see a Lakers-Cavs Final!

206 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:48:29pm

re: #187 brookly red

they are not in the office at this time… I did a 3 way call with an agent from Lifelock… this is the real deal. Fraud & cover up most foul.

On the up side, there are substantial rewards for busting Gov fraud/waste/abuse, esp tax issues. I forget the details.

207 PT Barnum  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:48:48pm

re: #203 Dark_Falcon

They’ve got the McCafe here too, and I hate it. I’m trying to order breakfast while some goofball at the front of the line is holding things up for 5 minute while they make him some complicated coffee drink. I know those sell well, but they annoy the heck out of me sometimes.

I’m in Iowa where people think cappucino is that crap that comes out of the hot chocolate machine at the Kum and Go. (yes that’s a real convenience store. Around here we call em ejaculate and evacuate)

208 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:49:05pm

re: #191 LudwigVanQuixote

One would imagine that in this computerized age, papers would not be the kind of records one would really need. I know I fill out a form with everyone I have worked with and they check databases.

One would imagine that between computerized birth records, tax records, credit records, driving records etc… that it would be pretty easy to determine.

Bingo. Agree completely. Shame on our central bureaucracy for not being able to execute this basic function with cold efficiency.

209 brookly red  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:49:07pm

re: #194 marjoriemoon

Wow. Scary stuff. How’s Lifelock btw? I’ve seen the ads.

good, real good.

210 jamesfirecat  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:49:10pm

re: #200 PT Barnum

If he healed the sick, they’d complain he was practicing medicine without a license.

If he parted the red sea, they’d get environmentalist on his ass.

If he changed water into wine, they’d complain he’d put the wineries out of business.

No if he turned water into wine they’d said he was out of touch with the American people for not turning it into draft beer.

211 PT Barnum  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:49:42pm

re: #210 jamesfirecat

No if he turned water into wine they’d said he was out of touch with the American people for not turning it into draft beer.

Yeah..that’s much better…wine is elitist

//

212 Walter L. Newton  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:49:45pm

re: #205 HoosierHoops

Hi you! Hope you are well..The Lakers will win tonight..It’s a sweep..
The Magic are monsters but I’d love to see a Lakers-Cavs Final!

Did you see this…

[Link: www.google.com…]

213 Gus  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:50:05pm

re: #187 brookly red

they are not in the office at this time… I did a 3 way call with an agent from Lifelock… this is the real deal. Fraud & cover up most foul.

Used to be one would call the state attorney general for that sort of thing. Maybe that still works I don’t know.

214 Vicious Babushka  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:50:32pm

I just got a Mother’s Day present for myself:

Rose Berenbaum’s Pie and Pastry Bible.

It’s awesome.

Which pie shall I bake tomorrow? Pecan or lemon meringue?

215 brookly red  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:50:53pm

re: #206 Decatur Deb

On the up side, there are substantial rewards for busting Gov fraud/waste/abuse, esp tax issues. I forget the details.

yeah, all you got to do is to get either the DCA, IRS, DOJ, SSA DoL or the local cops to actually file a report…

216 freetoken  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:51:34pm

re: #191 LudwigVanQuixote


One would imagine that in this computerized age, papers would not be the kind of records one would really need.

One would think a simple implant under the skin, like in the veterinary world, would do the trick.

People though seem to object to that idea.

217 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:51:42pm

re: #214 Alouette

I just got a Mother’s Day present for myself:

Rose Berenbaum’s Pie and Pastry Bible.

It’s awesome.

Which pie shall I bake tomorrow? Pecan or lemon meringue?

Watch out. Fat Bastard Vegetarian is headed your way!

218 brookly red  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:51:42pm

re: #213 Gus 802

Used to be one would call the state attorney general for that sort of thing. Maybe that still works I don’t know.

My sister works for the DA… yawn.

219 swamprat  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:52:06pm

re: #187 brookly red

they are not in the office at this time… I did a 3 way call with an agent from Lifelock… this is the real deal. Fraud & cover up most foul.


Send them an email.
Emails are permanent.
They cannot deny they got it.
Verbal is not worth anything anyway.
I bet they will respond.

220 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:52:46pm

re: #215 brookly red

yeah, all you got to do is to get either the DCA, IRS, DOJ, SSA DoL or the local cops to actually file a report…

Each of the Fed alphabets will have an Inspector General’s office with contact buttons on their websites.

221 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:52:47pm

re: #214 Alouette

I just got a Mother’s Day present for myself:

Rose Berenbaum’s Pie and Pastry Bible.

It’s awesome.

Which pie shall I bake tomorrow? Pecan or lemon meringue?

lemon meringue. because i greatly prefer pecan and will be less envious if you bake the lemon;)

222 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:53:17pm

re: #216 freetoken

One would think a simple implant under the skin, like in the veterinary world, would do the trick.

People though seem to object to that idea.

depends on where you want to put it/

223 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:53:46pm

re: #216 freetoken

One would think a simple implant under the skin, like in the veterinary world, would do the trick.

People though seem to object to that idea.

I’m one of those objecting. I’m fine with an ID card, but I’m not willing to be tagged like a dog.

224 jaunte  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:54:13pm

re: #216 freetoken

One would think a simple implant under the skin, like in the veterinary world, would do the trick.

People though seem to object to that idea.

That’s supposed to be comment #666.

225 HoosierHoops  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:54:24pm

re: #212 Walter L. Newton

Did you see this…

[Link: www.google.com…]


It’s tragic for the victims and the families and whole communities in Oklahoma..

226 What, me worry?  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:54:28pm

re: #209 brookly red

good, real good.

Good. Well, I’m sure you’ve contacted the credit agencies. TRW? Equifax and one other. I had a debt collector try to collect a debt from me that I never had. They had my social. I didn’t know who they were and they wouldn’t tell me what the debt was either, just to send them a check for $5,000.

Anyway, for like $120 a year, there’s a service that monitors your credit and sends you updates, at least will let you know if someone is using your number for anything else.

And you may want to alert your bank(s). But I probably wouldn’t do that unless your 100% positive someone has your number.

227 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:54:29pm

re: #219 swamprat

Send them an email.
Emails are permanent.
They cannot deny they got it.
Verbal is not worth anything anyway.
I bet they will respond.

And have the “copy furnished” address for their IG and a higher supervisory level on the email.

228 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:54:57pm

Everyone’s a whore, eh McCain?

229 freetoken  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:55:26pm

re: #222 Aceofwhat?

re: #224 jaunte

Was going to wait until that comment number to suggest the hand.

230 austin_blue  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:55:45pm

re: #191 LudwigVanQuixote

Common sense and reasonableness on the part of the investigators and prosecutors. If a company has one or two illegals with good forged documents, then let them off the hook. If the company has 500 working a field or a slaughter house or whatever, then it is a another matter.

One would imagine that in this computerized age, papers would not be the kind of records one would really need. I know I fill out a form with everyone I have worked with and they check databases.

One would imagine that between computerized birth records, tax records, credit records, driving records etc… that it would be pretty easy to determine.

I know a guy whose dad runs the single largest poinsettia growing operation in the US, outside of Tyler, Texas. Keep in mind that Tyler is so conservative that only airplanes with two right wings are allowed to land at the airport.

This is a March to November operation, at which time all the (illegal) workers head south with a 3 1/2-month hiatus in their work schedules (which no American would tolerate) and enough money to keep their families happy and fed.

Just sayin’.

231 Vicious Babushka  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:55:46pm

re: #217 Floral Giraffe

Watch out. Fat Bastard Vegetarian is headed your way!

FBV should have been at my house for dinner. I made Israeli falafel with fresh homemade pita. But, for those of you who missed it, the recipe is in the LGF Cookbook “Reality Bites”

232 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:56:29pm

re: #231 Alouette

FBV should have been at my house for dinner. I made Israeli falafel with fresh homemade pita. But, for those of you who missed it, the recipe is in the LGF Cookbook “Reality Bites”

How can I get my recipe for chicken adobo in the third volume?

233 Sheepdogess  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:57:13pm

re: #168 PT Barnum

70’s Hollywood.

All answers questioned.

I should have known.

Someting different
Tedesco…ttp

234 jaunte  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:57:16pm

re: #231 Alouette

FBV should have been at my house for dinner. I made Israeli falafel with fresh homemade pita. But, for those of you who missed it, the recipe is in the LGF Cookbook “Reality Bites”

Just $16.35? Wotta bargain!

235 freetoken  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:57:34pm

re: #230 austin_blue

Tyler is the former haunts of Gary North and company.

236 austin_blue  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:57:44pm

re: #216 freetoken

One would think a simple implant under the skin, like in the veterinary world, would do the trick.

People though seem to object to that idea.

Wouldn’t you? Why not just a bar code on your neck?

;-)

237 SteveC  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:58:01pm

Hello, everyone!

238 brookly red  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:58:57pm

re: #226 marjoriemoon

Good. Well, I’m sure you’ve contacted the credit agencies. TRW? Equifax and one other. I had a debt collector try to collect a debt from me that I never had. They had my social. I didn’t know who they were and they wouldn’t tell me what the debt was either, just to send them a check for $5,000.

Anyway, for like $120 a year, there’s a service that monitors your credit and sends you updates, at least will let you know if someone is using your number for anything else.

And you may want to alert your bank(s). But I probably wouldn’t do that unless your 100% positive someone has your number.

no that is what I pay life lock for…

239 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 10, 2010 7:59:14pm

re: #237 SteveC

Hello, everyone!

Hi, Steve.

240 What, me worry?  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:00:22pm

re: #191 LudwigVanQuixote

One would imagine that between computerized birth records, tax records, credit records, driving records etc… that it would be pretty easy to determine.

I wonder. If it wasn’t for the voting debacle in Florida in 2000, I guarantee you we’d still be punching our chads!

241 freetoken  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:00:33pm

re: #236 austin_blue

Seriously, I tired of having to carry multiple cards, remembering multiple PINs, and so forth.

Just put a code (based on DNA/fingerprint/retinal-print data) on an RFID chip, slip it under my skin, and be done with it. Bank, store, SS office… wherever, I can then just be me and not an assortment of accounts with never ending combinations of digits.

242 Jadespring  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:01:16pm

LOL. Evening Lizards.

Just watching my comedy pet show. We have a big box of dog treats that sits on a shelf. The dogs know that when they come in from their last pee before bed they get a treat and automatically go and sit by the box. Tonight two of my cats jumped onto the shelf as well and one starts pawing the box. The dogs were sitting patiently watching as the cat slowly started pushing the box towards the edge. The other cat jumps dog and starts running figure eights in between the dogs.

They in cahoots now!

243 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:01:26pm

re: #241 freetoken

And 450 “secret pins” that all have to be different lengths, to remember!

244 brookly red  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:01:40pm

re: #241 freetoken

Seriously, I tired of having to carry multiple cards, remembering multiple PINs, and so forth.

Just put a code (based on DNA/fingerprint/retinal-print data) on an RFID chip, slip it under my skin, and be done with it. Bank, store, SS office… wherever, I can then just be me and not an assortment of accounts with never ending combinations of digits.

national ID it is coming…

245 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:01:51pm

Stewart show up, sometimes I think he lurks LGF. ‘Nite, all.

246 Jadespring  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:02:18pm

re: #242 Jadespring

LOL. Evening Lizards.

Just watching my comedy pet show. We have a big box of dog treats that sits on a shelf. The dogs know that when they come in from their last pee before bed they get a treat and automatically go and sit by the box. Tonight two of my cats jumped onto the shelf as well and one starts pawing the box. The dogs were sitting patiently watching as the cat slowly started pushing the box towards the edge. The other cat jumps dog and starts running figure eights in between the dogs.

They in cahoots now!

PIMF …Other cat jumps down…
They’re in cahoots.


Gah I can’t write right now.

247 What, me worry?  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:02:22pm

re: #244 brookly red

national ID it is coming…

You keep saying that. I have no idea what it’s for that a driver’s license doesn’t cover.

248 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:03:15pm

re: #241 freetoken

Seriously, I tired of having to carry multiple cards, remembering multiple PINs, and so forth.

Just put a code (based on DNA/fingerprint/retinal-print data) on an RFID chip, slip it under my skin, and be done with it. Bank, store, SS office… wherever, I can then just be me and not an assortment of accounts with never ending combinations of digits.

Heh. Just wait unti version 1.0 leeches something fun into your bloodstream;)

give me an app with some sort of biometric capability and let me use my phone as the interface for all of that stuff. i’m carrying it with me anyway…

249 freetoken  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:03:38pm

re: #244 brookly red

national ID it is coming…

I don’t want a “national ID”. I already have an ID - my DNA. I just want to be me.

250 brookly red  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:04:04pm

re: #244 brookly red

national ID it is coming…


when you can get robbed by your own census people & the Feds can’t figure it out, it is so high time, so high time.

251 austin_blue  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:04:10pm

re: #237 SteveC

Hello, everyone!

Hi, SC, how you doing?

252 SteveC  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:04:19pm

re: #247 marjoriemoon

You keep saying that. I have no idea what it’s for that a driver’s license doesn’t cover.

My ID card (Don’t have a DL because of seizures) has a magnetic stripe on the back that I have never used and I’ve never seen anyone else use, either. Activate that strip and there’s your national ID card.

253 What, me worry?  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:04:46pm

re: #250 brookly red

when you can get robbed by your own census people & the Feds can’t figure it out, it is so high time, so high time.

But how would a national ID fix that?

254 brookly red  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:05:11pm

re: #247 marjoriemoon

You keep saying that. I have no idea what it’s for that a driver’s license doesn’t cover.

Mohammad Atta had four of them… think about that.

255 Bubblehead II  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:05:26pm

Evening Lizards.

256 austin_blue  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:06:05pm

re: #250 brookly red

when you can get robbed by your own census people & the Feds can’t figure it out, it is so high time, so high time.

Are you talking about Houston? That was home invasion gang that had a guy who presented himself as a census employee to get in the door. Then the crew busted in. Get the facts right.

257 Sheepdogess  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:06:18pm

re: #216 freetoken

You think that’s a good idea. It kinda creeps me out.

258 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:06:39pm

re: #252 SteveC

My ID card (Don’t have a DL because of seizures) has a magnetic stripe on the back that I have never used and I’ve never seen anyone else use, either. Activate that strip and there’s your national ID card.

i think, although i don’t want to presume others’ positions, that it is the apparent ease with which many state ID’s can be forged.

state ID…national ID…like Freetoken said, i just want something biometric.

no one will ever ask for “papers” again…

259 What, me worry?  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:06:43pm

re: #252 SteveC

My ID card (Don’t have a DL because of seizures) has a magnetic stripe on the back that I have never used and I’ve never seen anyone else use, either. Activate that strip and there’s your national ID card.

Right. An ID card or driver’s license. All the info is on there that anyone would need other than where you were born and despite the immigration debate, I don’t see how that information is relative. If you’re a legal resident or alien, you have a green card or visa.

260 Sheepdogess  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:07:03pm

PIMF - ?

261 brookly red  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:07:43pm

re: #256 austin_blue

Are you talking about Houston? That was home invasion gang that had a guy who presented himself as a census employee to get in the door. Then the crew busted in. Get the facts right.

no I am talking about my own case of identity theft (stealing you tax dollars) get you facts straight.

262 austin_blue  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:07:48pm

re: #241 freetoken

Seriously, I tired of having to carry multiple cards, remembering multiple PINs, and so forth.

Just put a code (based on DNA/fingerprint/retinal-print data) on an RFID chip, slip it under my skin, and be done with it. Bank, store, SS office… wherever, I can then just be me and not an assortment of accounts with never ending combinations of digits.

And anyone with a reader inside of twenty feet gets the info? Not on your life, amigo. That’s why the new Passports with RFID chips are so dangerous.

263 freetoken  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:08:01pm

Courtesy of the Fake Science website, an answer to all those children who ask in their science/social-studies classes “Where does….?”

How do we get oil? It’s a complex process.

264 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:08:21pm

re: #257 Sheepdogess

You think that’s a good idea. It kinda creeps me out.

Quite Concur.

265 freetoken  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:09:46pm

re: #262 austin_blue

And anyone with a reader inside of twenty feet gets the info? Not on your life, amigo. That’s why the new Passports with RFID chips are so dangerous.

The reason I said encoded with fingerprint/retinal-print is that anywhere I would want to make a transaction would not just scan an RFID but would verify my presence there my some means.

Of course, that doesn’t keep someone from mugging me and chopping off my hand…

266 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:10:02pm

re: #240 marjoriemoon

I wonder. If it wasn’t for the voting debacle in Florida in 2000, I guarantee you we’d still be punching our chads!

A valid point. However, I know for a fact that if the government wants to check you out, they can, and very thoroughly.

267 jaunte  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:10:24pm

re: #265 freetoken

Of course, that doesn’t keep someone from mugging me and chopping off my hand…


Unfortunately, that’s where my mind went.

268 SteveC  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:10:50pm

Little early for LGF to develop Spinning Wheel Syndrome. That usually happens when the thread count is upward of 700. :(

269 jamesfirecat  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:10:56pm

re: #245 Decatur Deb

Stewart show up, sometimes I think he lurks LGF. ‘Nite, all.

Well Charles has been posting bits of his show a lot more recently than he used to…

270 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:11:01pm

re: #262 austin_blue

And anyone with a reader inside of twenty feet gets the info? Not on your life, amigo. That’s why the new Passports with RFID chips are so dangerous.

and in addition, it seems that any semi-proficient programmer can hack into a shocking amount of govt databases…give me a phone that can perform some sort of biometric scan so that i control the timing and watch me fly…

271 austin_blue  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:11:07pm

re: #258 Aceofwhat?

i think, although i don’t want to presume others’ positions, that it is the apparent ease with which many state ID’s can be forged.

state ID…national ID…like Freetoken said, i just want something biometric.

no one will ever ask for “papers” again…

I’ve spent about two years of my life as an Ex-Pat overseas. In all that time, I have never been asked for my “papers” except at border crossings. If I had been, in my younger days, I probably would have shown them a pack of Zig-zags.

272 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:11:09pm

re: #262 austin_blue

re: #265 freetoken

Honestly the idea of stations everywhere that could track my movements is all too Orwellian for me.

273 freetoken  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:11:17pm

re: #267 jaunte

Criminal mind!

274 Bubblehead II  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:11:49pm

re: #262 austin_blue

There is a fix for that problem though.

275 jaunte  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:11:55pm

re: #273 freetoken

I’ve got to give you a hand…

276 brookly red  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:12:07pm

re: #272 LudwigVanQuixote

re: #265 freetoken

Honestly the idea of stations everywhere that could track my movements is all too Orwellian for me.

they are called cell phone towers… get over it.

277 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:12:26pm

re: #272 LudwigVanQuixote

re: #265 freetoken

Honestly the idea of stations everywhere that could track my movements is all too Orwellian for me.

Me too.

278 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:12:33pm

re: #276 brookly red

they are called cell phone towers… get over it.

You make a good point.

279 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:12:44pm

re: #216 freetoken

One would think a simple implant under the skin, like in the veterinary world, would do the trick.

People though seem to object to that idea.

It’s sort of creepy but on the flip side, it would be much easier than having to carry physical id around with me, but then again, I already carry cards and money in a wallet so there you go.

280 freetoken  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:13:13pm

re: #272 LudwigVanQuixote

Honestly the idea of stations everywhere that could track my movements is all too Orwellian for me.

Well then, let’s just go back to something safe and secure… like… gold!


Did I hear someone say BUY GOLD!!

281 brookly red  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:13:42pm

re: #278 LudwigVanQuixote

You make a good point.

at your cervix…

282 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:13:55pm

re: #280 freetoken

Well then, let’s just go back to something safe and secure… like… gold!

Did I hear someone say BUY GOLD!!

I just bought some from a kindly mole man…. I traded for non hybrid seeds of course!

283 SteveC  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:14:52pm

re: #273 freetoken

Criminal mind!

Don’t panic! I’ve called in the experts!

284 Walter L. Newton  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:15:03pm

re: #280 freetoken

Well then, let’s just go back to something safe and secure… like… gold!

Did I hear someone say BUY GOLD!!

Sigma_x was indicating that gold was a good deal right now.

285 austin_blue  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:15:08pm

re: #272 LudwigVanQuixote

re: #265 freetoken

Honestly the idea of stations everywhere that could track my movements is all too Orwellian for me.

Agreed. RFIDs suck. Illegal search and seizure of my freedom of movement. This ain’t the USSR where all travel required internal documents.

Brrr…

286 Sheepdogess  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:15:27pm

re: #241 freetoken

Seriously, I tired of having to carry multiple cards, remembering multiple PINs, and so forth.

Just put a code (based on DNA/fingerprint/retinal-print data) on an RFID chip, slip it under my skin, and be done with it. Bank, store, SS office… wherever, I can then just be me and not an assortment of accounts with never ending combinations of digits.

How about a star on our arms dudes/dudettes?

“Hey Man, I’m going to get teuterd? Cool!”

Weee.
Are.
Gull.
EEE.
Bull.

287 brookly red  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:15:35pm

re: #276 brookly red

they are called cell phone towers… get over it.

and gps, easy pass, credit/debit cards, etc.

288 jaunte  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:16:15pm

re: #284 Walter L. Newton

Sigma_x was indicating that gold was a good deal right now.

I found him hard to follow.

289 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:16:18pm

re: #280 freetoken

Well then, let’s just go back to something safe and secure… like… gold!

Did I hear someone say BUY GOLD!!

Why is the purchase of gold touted by ads on conservative radio stations? I mean, if there isn’t enough gold to go around anyway, what’s the point? And how much gold could one really buy and exchange for simple things like gallons of fuel and groceries? Do people not think of such things?

290 What, me worry?  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:17:01pm

re: #286 Sheepdogess

How about a star on our arms dudes/dudettes?

“Hey Man, I’m going to get teuterd? Cool!”

Weee.
Are.
Gull.
EEE.
Bull.

Well I was thinking of tattoo, but we’re on the same page.

291 austin_blue  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:17:12pm

re: #274 Bubblehead II

There is a fix for that problem though.

Dude, just toss the fucker in a microwave.

“I don’t know why the RFID isn’t working. *You guys* issued the document!”

292 Walter L. Newton  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:17:24pm

re: #289 eclectic infidel

Why is the purchase of gold touted by ads on conservative radio stations? I mean, if there isn’t enough gold to go around anyway, what’s the point? And how much gold could one really buy and exchange for simple things like gallons of fuel and groceries? Do people not think of such things?

Conservative radio stations? Do you know Thom Hartmann and Rachael Maddow also have Goldline ads on their radio shows?

293 Bagua  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:17:54pm

re: #288 jaunte

I found him hard to follow.

As will the 500 twitter followers I deleted.

294 brookly red  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:18:47pm

re: #289 eclectic infidel

Why is the purchase of gold touted by ads on conservative radio stations? I mean, if there isn’t enough gold to go around anyway, what’s the point? And how much gold could one really buy and exchange for simple things like gallons of fuel and groceries? Do people not think of such things?

true… can I interest you in 1,000 rounds of standard .308, shipping is free.

295 SteveC  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:18:58pm

re: #284 Walter L. Newton

Sigma_x was indicating that gold was a good deal right now.

Gold jumped about $30 in a 24 hour period a day or so ago. Somebody was panic buying.

296 Walter L. Newton  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:18:58pm

re: #293 Bagua

As will the 500 twitter followers I deleted.

You really did do it? Thanks a lot… I spent half the morning sticking up for you and now I find out I’ve made a fool of myself? Thanks for nothing.

297 jaunte  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:19:39pm

Extras: /////

298 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:19:45pm

re: #292 Walter L. Newton

Conservative radio stations? Do you know Thom Hartmann and Rachael Maddow also have Goldline ads on their radio shows?

I occasionally flick on KSFO (conservative station out of San Francisco) and that’s where I hear the ads. I also used to listen to KNEW, also out of SF and heard ads there as well. I didn’t know Maddow even has a radio program, I usually watch her on the intertubes. But back to my original post, what’s the point of buying gold if a. there isn’t enough for everyone, and b. how does one use said gold to buy groceries and fuel?

299 austin_blue  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:19:58pm

re: #295 SteveC

Gold jumped about $30 in a 24 hour period a day or so ago. Somebody was panic buying.

Well, it’s at $1200 an ounce so…

300 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:19:59pm

re: #283 SteveC

Don’t panic! I’ve called in the experts!

Get ‘em to slap the cuffs on Sigma. As many counts as a possible of trying to con us out of our money, plus three counts of misdemeanor trolling with intent to flounce.

301 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:20:15pm

re: #293 Bagua

As will the 500 twitter followers I deleted.

*snicker*

302 Stanley Sea  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:20:22pm

re: #298 eclectic infidel

I occasionally flick on KSFO (conservative station out of San Francisco) and that’s where I hear the ads. I also used to listen to KNEW, also out of SF and heard ads there as well. I didn’t know Maddow even has a radio program, I usually watch her on the intertubes. But back to my original post, what’s the point of buying gold if a. there isn’t enough for everyone, and b. how does one use said gold to buy groceries and fuel?

Maddow isn’t on the radio anymore.

303 Bubblehead II  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:20:34pm

re: #291 austin_blue

Well I would think the burn marks in the passport just might clue them in about why it isn’t working. That as well as the fact that a non-functional rfid enabled passport would probably be declared invalid/fake.

304 Reginald Perrin  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:20:35pm

re: #289 eclectic infidel

And how much gold could one really buy and exchange for simple things like gallons of fuel and groceries? Do people not think of such things?

I long for the good old days when nylon stockings, cigarettes and chocolate bars could be traded for anything you needed.
///

305 jamesfirecat  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:21:12pm

re: #304 Reginald Perrin

I long for the good old days when nylon stockings, cigarettes and chocolate bars could be traded for anything you needed.
///

Hell a fella could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff…

306 SteveC  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:21:33pm

re: #289 eclectic infidel

Why is the purchase of gold touted by ads on conservative radio stations? I mean, if there isn’t enough gold to go around anyway, what’s the point? And how much gold could one really buy and exchange for simple things like gallons of fuel and groceries? Do people not think of such things?

Gold (any commodity) has a built in ceiling. The gold bugs want to convince you that it will just keep going up, up, UP! But there comes a point where you just can’t afford it - and then it is worthless. Person A can’t buy it; Person B can’t sell it. And then the price naturally drops.

307 Walter L. Newton  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:21:40pm

re: #302 Stanley Sea

Maddow isn’t on the radio anymore.

Who is the other progressive female talk show host… ?

308 brookly red  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:21:53pm

re: #304 Reginald Perrin

I long for the good old days when nylon stockings, cigarettes and chocolate bars could be traded for anything you needed.
///

can I interest you in a 10 supply of penicillin. shipping is free.

309 freetoken  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:22:16pm

re: #289 eclectic infidel

There are two large gold dealers who started, years ago, to significantly support talk radio and the “alternative” right personalities. They’ve been at it for decades. Clear Channel is one of their projects, for instance (not to say CC was purely based on the dealers, but they played an important role in being key advertisers and were pushed hard by Art Bell in his earlier days, when he kept Premier afloat and helped CC become the dominant player that it is.)

The fixation on gold is very old, and can be traced throughout the long history of the nut-o-sphere. Alex Jones et. al. just recycle the earlier paranoia that was the domain of the JBS and similar groups.

You can go all the way back to the “Free Silver” era to find the gold aficionados doing their thing.

310 Jadespring  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:22:40pm

re: #304 Reginald Perrin

I long for the good old days when nylon stockings, cigarettes and chocolate bars could be traded for anything you needed.
///

I trade chickens and eggs for things. I also traded some flower bulbs and a couple of plants for some seed potatoes the other week.

311 Stanley Sea  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:23:07pm

re: #307 Walter L. Newton

Who is the other progressive female talk show host… ?

I don’t know.. I have no progressive radio where I live, except if you count NPR.

312 reine.de.tout  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:23:26pm

re: #284 Walter L. Newton

Sigma_x was indicating that gold was a good deal right now.

Here’s one of the FOUR comments at his blog:


Actual Trader [Moderator] 1 day ago
So you admit you made a beginner mistake, got spanked, and now you’ve learned your lesson and want to be a trading advisor? LOL.

Keep guessing, meanwhile all you are doing is providing liquidity for the actual professionals.

313 austin_blue  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:23:31pm

re: #303 Bubblehead II

Well I would think the burn marks in the passport just might clue them in about why it isn’t working. That as well as the fact that a non-functional rfid enabled passport would probably be declared invalid/fake.

Bend it, crack it, whatever. I do not want a Bad Guy to be able to read and recreate my passport. Included on the RFID is you photo, along with everything else to forge your identity and create a new passport. It’s a monumentally stupid idea.

314 Walter L. Newton  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:23:40pm

re: #311 Stanley Sea

I don’t know.. I have no progressive radio where I live, except if you count NPR.

I’ll go look.

315 freetoken  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:26:08pm

The Fake Science website has lots of great “posters”.

I surprised this one isn’t sold in the Creation Museum.

316 austin_blue  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:26:14pm

SWMBO is home. Time to be a good husband. Night all.

317 Sheepdogess  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:26:24pm

Cre: #310 Jadespring

I trade chickens and eggs for things. I also traded some flower bulbs and a couple of plants for some seed potatoes the other week.

Can’t eat or drink gold.
I’m with you.
Buy Vodka and tabakky.

318 brookly red  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:26:33pm

re: #314 Walter L. Newton

I’ll go look.

have you heard OBAM, everything you want to hear with no mention of the cost? All hits all the time!

319 Bagua  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:26:50pm

re: #296 Walter L. Newton

You really did do it? Thanks a lot… I spent half the morning sticking up for you and now I find out I’ve made a fool of myself? Thanks for nothing.

My powers are amazing… the trick was to get inside sigma_x’s head first, finding the password was the easy part.

320 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:27:26pm

re: #304 Reginald Perrin

I long for the good old days when nylon stockings, cigarettes and chocolate bars could be traded for anything you needed.
///

Survival kit contents check. In them you’ll find: one forty-five caliber automatic; two boxes of ammunition; four days’ concentrated emergency rations; one drug issue containing antibiotics, morphine, vitamin pills, pep pills, sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills; one miniature combination Russian phrase book and Bible; one hundred dollars in rubles; one hundred dollars in gold; nine packs of chewing gum; one issue of prophylactics; three lipsticks; three pair of nylon stockings. Shoot, a fella’ could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff. —Major “King” Kong, Dr. Strangelove or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb

321 MandyManners  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:28:12pm

My respect for Sen. McCain is immense.

I will not be a bitch and put him up against John Fuckin Kerry or John Fucking Murtha.

322 Walter L. Newton  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:28:16pm

re: #319 Bagua

My powers are amazing… the trick was to get inside sigma_x’s head first, finding the password was the easy part.

Get ready for a good episode tomorrow night… not a single character that you have ever seen before… it’s the backstory of The Island and the MIB.

323 SteveC  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:28:50pm

re: #320 eclectic infidel

Survival kit contents check. In them you’ll find: one forty-five caliber automatic; two boxes of ammunition; four days’ concentrated emergency rations; one drug issue containing antibiotics, morphine, vitamin pills, pep pills, sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills; one miniature combination Russian phrase book and Bible; one hundred dollars in rubles; one hundred dollars in gold; nine packs of chewing gum; one issue of prophylactics; three lipsticks; three pair of nylon stockings. Shoot, a fella’ could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff. —Major “King” Kong, Dr. Strangelove or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb

Gentlemen! You can’t fight in here, this is the War Room!

324 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:28:51pm

re: #291 austin_blue

I thought it was magnets that killed the card?
EVIL magnets!

325 brookly red  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:28:56pm

re: #320 eclectic infidel

Survival kit contents check. In them you’ll find: one forty-five caliber automatic; two boxes of ammunition; four days’ concentrated emergency rations; one drug issue containing antibiotics, morphine, vitamin pills, pep pills, sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills; one miniature combination Russian phrase book and Bible; one hundred dollars in rubles; one hundred dollars in gold; nine packs of chewing gum; one issue of prophylactics; three lipsticks; three pair of nylon stockings. Shoot, a fella’ could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff. —Major “King” Kong, Dr. Strangelove or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb

and if you order now shipping is free…

326 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:29:24pm

re: #295 SteveC

Gold jumped about $30 in a 24 hour period a day or so ago. Somebody was panic buying.

It was Ron Paul!

327 jaunte  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:29:29pm

re: #320 eclectic infidel

He forgot the .308 and the ether.

328 Vicious Babushka  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:30:12pm

re: #312 reine.de.tout

Here’s one of the FOUR comments at his blog:

What an asshole.

329 brookly red  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:30:30pm

re: #327 jaunte

He forgot the .308 and the ether.

Hunter, is that you… they said you were dead!

330 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:30:58pm

re: #304 Reginald Perrin

I long for the good old days when nylon stockings, cigarettes and chocolate bars could be traded for anything you needed.
///

You rang? No, you forgot the champagne…

331 SteveC  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:30:59pm

re: #326 Floral Giraffe

It was Ron Paul!

Sounds reasonable to me!

332 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:31:16pm

re: #324 Floral Giraffe

I thought it was magnets that killed the card?
EVIL magnets!

Heh… I have one of those.

I named the beast del then I bred him with an even more evil she magnet named munotjay!

The result was Delcrossmunotjay!

The most savage magnet of tehm all!

333 jaunte  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:31:37pm

re: #329 brookly red

I’ve just been busy negotiating a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs.

334 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:32:04pm

re: #312 reine.de.tout

Wow well that settles it about him.

335 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:32:57pm

re: #304 Reginald Perrin

I long for the good old days when nylon stockings, cigarettes and chocolate bars could be traded for anything you needed.
///

Don’t forget corsets and crops… Geesh.

336 jaunte  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:33:26pm

re: #333 jaunte

I’ve just been busy negotiating a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs.

But enough about cookbooks. Just buy one, and never turn your back.

337 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:33:33pm

OK I admit that delcrossmunotjay was pretty lame as a pun.

338 SteveC  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:33:40pm

re: #322 Walter L. Newton

Get ready for a good episode tomorrow night… not a single character that you have ever seen before… it’s the backstory of The Island and the MIB.

The first, last, and only line of defense
against the worst scum in the universe!

339 Nimed  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:33:57pm

re: #307 Walter L. Newton

Who is the other progressive female talk show host… ?

You mean Stephanie Miller?
Boy, you’re lucky she’s not a lesbian.

340 cliffster  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:33:59pm

Oh yeah, I meant to say, Congratulations Tim Clark!! That little penguin dude went out and beat everyone’s ass on the final day of The Player’s yesterday. Been knocking on the door for awhile.. glad it finally swung open for him

341 brookly red  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:34:14pm

re: #333 jaunte

I’ve just been busy negotiating a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs.

oh, so I guess you don’t like the AZ law thing too much, huh?

342 Walter L. Newton  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:34:29pm

re: #338 SteveC

The first, last, and only line of defense
against the worst scum in the universe!

What. I was talking about LOST. What are you talking about?

343 SteveC  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:34:34pm

re: #333 jaunte

I’ve just been busy negotiating a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs.

Oh, you’re in DC?

344 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:34:48pm

re: #333 jaunte

I’ve just been busy negotiating a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs.

Damn, was that Baltimore or a Mickey Spillane novel?

345 Walter L. Newton  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:34:48pm

re: #339 Nimed

You mean Stephanie Miller?
Boy, you’re lucky she’s not a lesbian.

Randi Rhodes

346 Bubblehead II  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:35:06pm

re: #313 austin_blue

Oh, I agree. I carry a rfid I.D. that allows me to unlock certain doors at my place of employment. But it is limited to a basic account number. If it was more than that I would probably be adverse to having it on my person. But to intentionally damage a government issued document is foolish. It at the least renders it useless and at worst leaves you open to charges of destruction of Government property. You don’t own that passport/I.D. card. The State does and they can (and if it becomes widespread) probably will, charge those who knowingly damage the rfid device with destruction/alteration of a Government document.

347 jaunte  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:35:07pm

re: #341 brookly red

It will just shift traffic to east and west, not much of a fix.

348 freetoken  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:35:29pm

The Sarah is playing (first round of) the Obama-hates-the-military card:

Soldier pay decreases in the midst of overspending elsewhere and government union
pay raises? Seriously? What are our priorities?

She links to the Newsmax story… If she had bothered to look anywhere else, she would have found that the Pentagon is recommending cuts.

As for her question about priorities, that is simple: cut the deficit. Discretionary spending will have to come down, or revenues increase (meaning in part a tax increase), or both.

349 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:35:30pm

re: #341 brookly red

oh, so I guess you don’t like the AZ law thing too much, huh?

I am pretty late to the game and all.

What exactly is the problem with erecting a border fence? I don’t get why people are so afraid of it.

350 jaunte  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:35:46pm

re: #344 LudwigVanQuixote

No that was Hunter Thompson on the music business.

351 Bagua  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:35:50pm

re: #322 Walter L. Newton

Get ready for a good episode tomorrow night… not a single character that you have ever seen before… it’s the backstory of The Island and the MIB.

I saw the preview, my first thought was that it was hard to believe there are new characters ahead of the finale with so many mysteries remaining.

I’m just about through Season two now, re-watching ahead of the finish. It is like watching the episodes for the first time as I understand much more of what is happening and what it means.

352 Reginald Perrin  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:35:58pm

re: #330 Floral Giraffe

You rang? No, you forgot the champagne…

If you’re expecting champagne you better be very good at being bad.

353 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:36:00pm

re: #337 LudwigVanQuixote

OK I admit that delcrossmunotjay was pretty lame as a pun.

Keep swinging…you’ll make solid contact eventually;)

354 brookly red  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:37:34pm

re: #349 Oh no…Sand People!

I am pretty late to the game and all.

What exactly is the problem with erecting a border fence? I don’t get why people are so afraid of it.

I got no problem with it, fuck let’s cover the whole damn thing with windmills too…

355 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:38:04pm

re: #353 Aceofwhat?

Keep swinging…you’ll make solid contact eventually;)

Well I am far from ohm. But perhaps I should just drink some Maxwell house.

356 cliffster  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:38:30pm

See here, little car drivers.. one head on collision going 65 with my full size truck, and your car won’t seem so Smart.

357 Bubblehead II  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:38:33pm

This Vid seems to be germane to tonight’s thread.

358 Nimed  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:38:35pm

re: #345 Walter L. Newton

Randi Rhodes

Ah. Heard of her, never heard her.
Liberal radio outside of NPR sucks, unfortunately.

359 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:39:20pm

re: #354 brookly red

I got no problem with it, fuck let’s cover the whole damn thing with windmills too…

Fair enough.

360 jaunte  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:39:42pm

re: #354 brookly red

I got no problem with it, fuck let’s cover the whole damn thing with windmills too…

Now that might be a way to sell the idea. Not that it would keep people out, but we’d have a bunch of windmills.

361 freetoken  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:39:52pm

Today’s tornadoes took a toll:

Five Dead in Tornado Outbreak Across Plains

Tornadoes ripped through parts of the Southern Plains on Monday in an outbreak of violent weather that killed five people, tossed cars off highways, flipped mobile homes and sent baseball-size hail crashing through windshields, officials said.

362 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:39:55pm

re: #355 LudwigVanQuixote

Well I am far from ohm. But perhaps I should just drink some Maxwell house.

there is a potential difference between Maxwell and what you’re used to…

363 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:40:05pm

re: #354 brookly red

re: #349 Oh no…Sand People!

If it would work, I would have no problem with it. It won’t. It will end up being a giant waste of money. There are exactly two things we can do to actually stop this.

1. Dry up the employers
2. When we get on our feet help make southern nations better places to live.

364 MandyManners  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:40:38pm

Ludwig, you piss me off to the Nth degree at times but,

*smooch*

365 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:40:44pm

re: #360 jaunte

Now that might be a way to sell the idea. Not that it would keep people out, but we’d have a bunch of windmills.

It seems to have stemmed quite a bit of the tide over in Israel.

366 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:41:00pm

re: #362 Aceofwhat?

there is a potential difference between Maxwell and what you’re used to…

You’ve induced me to see it differently.

I think I see watt the problem is.

367 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:41:03pm

re: #305 jamesfirecat

Hell a fella could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff…

We must not allow a mineshaft gap!

368 avanti  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:41:13pm

re: #348 freetoken

The Sarah is playing (first round of) the Obama-hates-the-military card:

She links to the Newsmax story… If she had bothered to look anywhere else, she would have found that the Pentagon is recommending cuts.

As for her question about priorities, that is simple: cut the deficit. Discretionary spending will have to come down, or revenues increase (meaning in part a tax increase), or both.

Military and civil service pay, like social security is tied to the cost of living, no inflation and the military gets a small increase. If Obama had managed sky high inflation, they would have recieved a bigger increase.

369 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:41:28pm

re: #364 MandyManners

Ludwig, you piss me off to the Nth degree at times but,

*smooch*

My first post was about comparing him to Hilary. ;)

370 HoosierHoops  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:42:05pm

re: #355 LudwigVanQuixote

Well I am far from ohm. But perhaps I should just drink some Maxwell house.

The more we cycle the puns the more I get Amped up…I guess it’s just part of my circuits…

371 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:42:17pm

re: #366 LudwigVanQuixote

You’ve induced me to see it differently.

I think I see watt the problem is.

you’re getting me all amped up over here…

372 jaunte  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:42:19pm

re: #365 Oh no…Sand People!

I think the motivations there are different, though. Cross over and do some murder/get killed, vs. cross over and survive (and send money back home).

373 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:42:34pm

re: #370 HoosierHoops

damn you and your GMTA/

374 MandyManners  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:42:34pm

re: #369 LudwigVanQuixote

My first post was about comparing him to Hilary. ;)

Didn’t see it.

375 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:42:41pm

re: #365 Oh no…Sand People!

It seems to have stemmed quite a bit of the tide over in Israel.

The barrier is about two orders of magnitude smaller, built much higher than this and patrolled 24/7 by a very serious an dedicated army that can put more men per yard than we can.

376 cliffster  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:42:45pm

re: #370 HoosierHoops

The more we cycle the puns the more I get Amped up…I guess it’s just part of my circuits…

Resistance is futile

377 Bubblehead II  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:43:18pm

re: #364 MandyManners

Evening ((Mandy)).

378 Walter L. Newton  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:43:21pm

re: #351 Bagua

I saw the preview, my first thought was that it was hard to believe there are new characters ahead of the finale with so many mysteries remaining.

I’m just about through Season two now, re-watching ahead of the finish. It is like watching the episodes for the first time as I understand much more of what is happening and what it means.

Let me remind you of something you may not have heard… not every single little mystery of the show is going to be explained before the finale.

The producers have stated over and over, some things are just the “world” of the show, you will have enough info to infer some answers that are not directly answered, and some thing will be outright answered, but all in all, some aspect of the show just are.

Like the Numbers. There is no further explanation of the numbers. It is fate that they keep showing up, but there is no real motive behind them reappearing over and over.

See?

379 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:43:26pm

re: #370 HoosierHoops

The more we cycle the puns the more I get Amped up…I guess it’s just part of my circuits…

re: #370 HoosierHoops

The more we cycle the puns the more I get Amped up…I guess it’s just part of my circuits…

Really whnever I make E&M puns, everyone in the room gets tensor.

380 brookly red  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:43:36pm

re: #356 cliffster

See here, little car drivers.. one head on collision going 65 with my full size truck, and your car won’t seem so Smart.

well 65 is pretty much TU for anything including your truck…but it would be nice to be able to hit a deer & not still be in the hospital when the deer’s lawyers serve you the papers…

381 jaunte  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:43:38pm

re: #375 LudwigVanQuixote

The barrier is about two orders of magnitude smaller, built much higher than this and patrolled 24/7 by a very serious an dedicated army that can put more men per yard than we can.

And there’s that.

382 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:43:41pm

re: #363 LudwigVanQuixote

re: #349 Oh no…Sand People!

If it would work, I would have no problem with it. It won’t. It will end up being a giant waste of money. There are exactly two things we can do to actually stop this.

1. Dry up the employers
2. When we get on our feet help make southern nations better places to live.

I would love the government to aggressively take on the companies and businesses that hire and treat illegals exactly that while working; illegal.
I would add the wall to that list since it’s not an ‘either / or’. All of those things can be reasonably implemented.

383 Walter L. Newton  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:43:47pm

re: #358 Nimed

Ah. Heard of her, never heard her.
Liberal radio outside of NPR sucks, unfortunately.

NPR is not that liberal.

384 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:43:58pm

There’s a reason store bought lettuce tastes like shit….
Lettuce Recall Widens As FDA Investigates E. Coli Outbreak
Grown your own and buy the fucking LGF cookbook~

385 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:44:07pm

re: #372 jaunte

I think the motivations there are different, though. Cross over and do some murder/get killed, vs. cross over and survive (and send money back home).

A very good point.

386 jamesfirecat  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:44:14pm

re: #367 Dark_Falcon

We must not allow a mineshaft gap!

Mein Fuhrer I can walk!

387 brookly red  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:44:48pm

re: #360 jaunte

Now that might be a way to sell the idea. Not that it would keep people out, but we’d have a bunch of windmills.

we set them low to the ground…

388 HoosierHoops  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:44:49pm

re: #376 cliffster

Resistance is futile

Why I do believe that tingle up my leg my electric!

389 MandyManners  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:44:53pm

re: #369 LudwigVanQuixote

My first post was about comparing him to Hilary. ;)

Gonna’ keep my comments very lean.

390 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:44:56pm

re: #352 Reginald Perrin

re: #335 LudwigVanQuixote

Don’t forget corsets and crops… Geesh.

It could be a lot of fun!

391 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:45:03pm

re: #4 jamesfirecat

One of us, one of us!

Anyone remember that scene from Depadieu’s Cyrano de Bergerac?

392 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:45:48pm

re: #372 jaunte

I think the motivations there are different, though. Cross over and do some murder/get killed, vs. cross over and survive (and send money back home).

I agree that the majority do what you outline on sending money home. But I guarantee they all aren’t hard scrabble family men.

393 MandyManners  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:45:51pm

re: #377 Bubblehead II

Evening ((Mandy)).

How are you doing, Bubbles?!

394 MandyManners  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:46:29pm

re: #377 Bubblehead II

Evening ((Mandy)).

I’m sorry. I should not have called you “Bubbles”.

395 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:46:56pm

re: #390 Floral Giraffe

re: #335 LudwigVanQuixote

It could be a lot of fun!

Did you see my post as to why this was a vastly better blog?

You know I would love to make some stalker heads explode…

Is there really anything more appealing than a good old fashioned binding and spanking?

396 Bubblehead II  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:47:01pm

re: #393 MandyManners

Hanging in there. The “man” hasn’t gotten me down yet.

397 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:47:10pm

re: #391 SanFranciscoZionist

Anyone remember that scene from Depadieu’s Cyrano de Bergerac?

Magnificent movie.

398 jaunte  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:47:12pm

re: #392 Oh no…Sand People!

Definitely not. Here in Houston we have experienced the full spectrum of human behavior.

399 Reginald Perrin  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:47:13pm

re: #390 Floral Giraffe

re: #352 Reginald Perrin

re: #335 LudwigVanQuixote

Don’t forget corsets and crops… Geesh.

It could be a lot of fun!

That depends on who’s wearing the corset.

400 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:47:37pm

re: #33 jamesfirecat

Translation of Translation

“I have decided to whore myself out because these TP whackos hold the fate of my senate career in their hands.”

Why not GO maverick? Resign from politics and go on the road denouncing the crazy?

401 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:47:51pm

re: #384 Killgore Trout

There’s a reason store bought lettuce tastes like shit…
Lettuce Recall Widens As FDA Investigates E. Coli Outbreak
Grown your own and buy the fucking LGF cookbook~

Well, I bought a cookbook, but I didn’t think I’d bought an f’ing cookbook.
Could be a LOT more fun, than I was expecting!
;)

402 Walter L. Newton  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:47:56pm

Did Sigma_x ever apologize to Bagua? I haven’t seen him around tonight…

403 Bubblehead II  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:48:06pm

re: #394 MandyManners

I’m sorry. I should not have called you “Bubbles”.

Been called worse.

404 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:48:07pm

re: #34 rwdflynavy

Stalingrad will be a cake walk!

People will do weird strategic shit when there’s oil on the other side.

405 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:48:10pm

Where was I.. can anyone help me with a pun for f mu nu?

406 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:48:46pm

re: #402 Walter L. Newton

Did Sigma_x ever apologize to Bagua? I haven’t seen him around tonight…

He’s dead, Jim…

407 Vicious Babushka  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:48:55pm

re: #402 Walter L. Newton

Did Sigma_x ever apologize to Bagua? I haven’t seen him around tonight…

He flounced in the “Maine GOP” thread after being outed as a con artist.

408 SteveC  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:49:14pm

I’m outta here, got to go pick up pills tomorrow.

No hallucinogenics, but it you really want me to share I’ll slip you a few diuretics!

409 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:49:21pm

re: #402 Walter L. Newton

Did Sigma_x ever apologize to Bagua? I haven’t seen him around tonight…

HE is an x lizard. I think that makes him a pair of shoes…

410 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:49:24pm

re: #402 Walter L. Newton

Did Sigma_x ever apologize to Bagua? I haven’t seen him around tonight…

Stinky hit him with the Cluebat. He is not with us any longer.

411 cliffster  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:49:31pm

re: #394 MandyManners

I’m sorry. I should not have called you “Bubbles”.

Four ducks are arrested and go before the judge. Judge calls the first one up.

Judge: “What are you charged with?” Duck: “Blowing bubbles in the pond”

Next duck.. “What are you charged with?” “Blowing bubbles in the pond”

Third duck.. “What are you charged with?” “Blowing bubbles in the pond”

Fourth duck walks up.. “What are you charged with?” “Sir, I am Bubbles”

412 MandyManners  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:49:43pm

re: #386 jamesfirecat

Mein Fuhrer I can walk!

James, time to learn.


413 albusteve  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:50:10pm

re: #410 Floral Giraffe

Stinky hit him with the Cluebat. He is not with us any longer.

but his spirit lives on…and on

414 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:50:11pm

re: #40 Dark_Falcon

- General Joseph “Fighting Joe” Hooker, 3 weeks prior to the Battle of Chancellorsville

“No battle plan has ever survived contact with the enemy.” I think that was some panzer commander, but I always say Bismarck, ‘cause it sounds less creepy.

415 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:50:31pm

re: #41 LudwigVanQuixote

Palin will be just what I need to get the women’s vote and show the rubes that the GOP is not all about old white men!

Another great plan.

It would have worked. Except for Palin.

416 Nimed  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:50:31pm

re: #383 Walter L. Newton

NPR is not that liberal.

I agree. In fact, you’re stealing my usual line.

417 MandyManners  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:50:37pm

re: #396 Bubblehead II

Hanging in there. The “man” hasn’t gotten me down yet.

Oh, ignore “the Man”.

418 MandyManners  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:51:21pm

re: #402 Walter L. Newton

Did Sigma_x ever apologize to Bagua? I haven’t seen him around tonight…

DON’T HOLD YOUR BREATH.

419 MandyManners  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:51:42pm

re: #402 Walter L. Newton

Did Sigma_x ever apologize to Bagua? I haven’t seen him around tonight…

Like you would.

420 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:51:45pm

Wait! If ex lizards are pairs of shoes, does that make the stalkers moccasins?

I think we should call them the moccasin blog.

421 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:52:31pm

re: #420 LudwigVanQuixote

Wait! If ex lizards are pairs of shoes, does that make the stalkers moccasins?

I think we should call them the moccasin blog.

I vote for loafers. It works on more levels…

422 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:52:33pm

re: #414 SanFranciscoZionist

“No battle plan has ever survived contact with the enemy.” I think that was some panzer commander, but I always say Bismarck, ‘cause it sounds less creepy.

Just say nuts.

423 MandyManners  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:52:48pm

re: #411 cliffster

Four ducks are arrested and go before the judge. Judge calls the first one up.

Judge: “What are you charged with?” Duck: “Blowing bubbles in the pond”

Next duck.. “What are you charged with?” “Blowing bubbles in the pond”

Third duck.. “What are you charged with?” “Blowing bubbles in the pond”

Fourth duck walks up.. “What are you charged with?” “Sir, I am Bubbles”

*bows*

424 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:52:54pm

re: #417 MandyManners

Oh, ignore “the Man”.

I’m the Man.

Anthrax..Ahh..yeah..

425 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:53:03pm

re: #421 Aceofwhat?

I vote for loafers. It works on more levels…

perfect.


From now on we call the ex lizards loafers.

Do people like this?

426 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:53:18pm

re: #78 LudwigVanQuixote

Oh yeah… I am sure they will. I suppose they will bitch that we are not water boarding him and whine that those damn liberals want to fluff his pillow at gitmo or some such. Either that or they will just ignore the fact that Obama is actually making a fight of it.

They just wanna waterboard someone. They feel deep in their hearts that it helps.

427 Bubblehead II  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:53:34pm
HE is an x lizard. I think that makes him a pair of shoes…

Perhaps a pair of boots?

428 Nimed  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:53:37pm

re: #402 Walter L. Newton

Did Sigma_x ever apologize to Bagua? I haven’t seen him around tonight…

No. But just before I was banned, he said it was you he always loved.

429 jamesfirecat  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:53:41pm

re: #423 MandyManners

*bows*

Meh its nothing fancy, I heard that one before with Jake, Alex, and Ron saying they threw Peanuts in the elephant cage at the zoo….

430 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:54:01pm

re: #83 Dark_Falcon

That bring me to another thing that bothers me: No one who earned the rank of Captain in the United States Navy should even allow himself to be associated with the phrase “the plan is perfect”. He literally can’t believe that, given all that he has seen, done and read.

He doesn’t care. I mean, on some level he cares, but this is not about how to stop illegal immigration. It’s about John McCain winning reelection.

431 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:54:11pm

re: #428 Nimed

No. But just before I was banned, he said it was you he always loved.

And yet you still type.

432 jaunte  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:54:11pm

re: #384 Killgore Trout

There’s a reason store bought lettuce tastes like shit…
Lettuce Recall Widens As FDA Investigates E. Coli Outbreak
Grown your own and buy the fucking LGF cookbook~

What’s that you say? There’s a gardening section that will teach you how to grow your own? For just $6 and change? I’ll bet a day trader spends that on coffee every morning.

433 reine.de.tout  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:54:16pm

re: #384 Killgore Trout

There’s a reason store bought lettuce tastes like shit…
Lettuce Recall Widens As FDA Investigates E. Coli Outbreak
Grown your own and buy the fucking LGF cookbook~

25 copies sold thus far.

Folks the cookbook is really really nice!

The artwork alone is worth the price of the book (a mere $16.35), and there are lots of yummy recipes, Cato’s poem featuring favorite lizards, AND Killgore’s Gardening Section. Killgore worked very hard on that Gardening Section, and it is very good.

Shipping is an additional fee, less than $4.

Check it out it here!

434 Bubblehead II  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:54:45pm

re: #411 cliffster

Four ducks are arrested and go before the judge. Judge calls the first one up.

Judge: “What are you charged with?” Duck: “Blowing bubbles in the pond”

Next duck.. “What are you charged with?” “Blowing bubbles in the pond”

Third duck.. “What are you charged with?” “Blowing bubbles in the pond”

Fourth duck walks up.. “What are you charged with?” “Sir, I am Bubbles”

Thank Gawd for Viagra!

435 albusteve  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:55:01pm

re: #430 SanFranciscoZionist

He doesn’t care. I mean, on some level he cares, but this is not about how to stop illegal immigration. It’s about John McCain winning reelection.

correct

436 brookly red  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:55:06pm

re: #414 SanFranciscoZionist

“No battle plan has ever survived contact with the enemy.” I think that was some panzer commander, but I always say Bismarck, ‘cause it sounds less creepy.

funny thing about panzer commanders… Germany has not a single oil well. how did they do it?

437 reine.de.tout  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:55:11pm

re: #402 Walter L. Newton

Did Sigma_x ever apologize to Bagua? I haven’t seen him around tonight…

He is no longer among us.
banned

438 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:55:28pm

re: #90 swamprat

Let me go to the one state where building the fence could be associated with bigotry and racism.Sure, I could go to Texas, or New Mexico, or California; but those states are not being painted as batshit crazy. No, I’ll go to ARI-fucking-ZONA!
The One, Single, and Only state, where support for building the fence is an absolute, sure signal to every racist, bigoted, nutso separatist, xenophobic asshole. that I understand and support their psychosis!

I’m John McCain, and I pander to racists.

/We need the fence, but not at this price.
Build the friggin’ fence, but do it honestly. I support tag and release immigration.
Let ‘em in. Let ‘em work. Keep track of who and how many. And don’t force them to work illegally so they work for less. Play the game honestly.

Well, yes, but he’s RUNNING in Arizona. If he came to California, it would look a bit weird.

439 Nimed  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:55:28pm

re: #431 Oh no…Sand People!

And yet you still type.

:(( Rats.

440 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:55:57pm

re: #96 Decatur Deb

On the other hand, in a thousand years or so, we can show the Chinese tourists our wall.

Maybe we should make it prettier.

441 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:55:59pm

re: #433 reine.de.tout

25 copies sold thus far.

Folks the cookbook is really really nice!

The artwork alone is worth the price of the book (a mere $16.35), and there are lots of yummy recipes, Cato’s poem featuring favorite lizards, AND Killgore’s Gardening Section. Killgore worked very hard on that Gardening Section, and it is very good.

Shipping is an additional fee, less than $4.

Check it out it here!

OK I promise to buy one. The iguana art is awesome jaunte.

442 MandyManners  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:56:16pm

re: #424 Oh no…Sand People!

[Video]

I’m the Man.

Anthrax..Ahh..yeah..

What?

443 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:56:45pm

re: #442 MandyManners

What?

The song is “I’m the man”…

/nevermind…

444 Irenicum  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:56:46pm

Ah crap, missed another flouncy mcflouncey. Oh well, I guess sigma is now officially X.

445 MandyManners  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:56:56pm

re: #424 Oh no…Sand People!

[Video]

I’m the Man.

Anthrax..Ahh..yeah..

I up-ding.

446 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:56:57pm

re: #114 Gus 802

Fine. Build the damned fence. Just do it and get it over with. Tired of hearing about that border fence and in the long run we’ll spend more money debating the merits of this fence then if they would just build it now.

They appear to be building.

447 albusteve  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:56:59pm

re: #436 brookly red

funny thing about panzer commanders… Germany has not a single oil well. how did they do it?

do what?…they got their asses handed to them

448 Vicious Babushka  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:57:00pm

re: #437 reine.de.tout

He is no longer among us.
banned

banned, tanned and shitcanned.

449 HoosierHoops  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:57:23pm

re: #396 Bubblehead II

Hanging in there. The “man” hasn’t gotten me down yet.


Down with the Man!
Down with the Man!
Down with the Man!
* Hey does anybody feel like taking their clothes off?*
Down with the Man!
*Cause It’s a full moon out tonight and I got Van Morrison on tape*
Down with the..
Down with..
Down..
*Hey I’m not saying me! I mean..err…down with the man?
Down with the Hoopster! Down with the Hoopster!
uh ho!
/

450 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:57:28pm

re: #427 Bubblehead II

Perhaps a pair of boots?

Ohh I am liking boots even better than loafers or moccasins. Boots works on lots of levels too.

BTW the stalker blog was talking about electrifying the terrorists privates.

451 jaunte  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:58:04pm

re: #450 LudwigVanQuixote

Ohh I am liking boots even better than loafers or moccasins. Boots works on lots of levels too.

BTW the stalker blog was talking about electrifying the terrorists privates.

Are they having a lighting problem?

452 MandyManners  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:58:11pm

re: #429 jamesfirecat

Meh its nothing fancy, I heard that one before with Jake, Alex, and Ron saying they threw Peanuts in the elephant cage at the zoo…

Sweetheart, don’t interrupt a joke.

Keep your powder dry.

Shut the fuck up.

453 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:58:15pm

re: #448 Alouette

banned, tanned and shitcanned.

Are you feeling better. I have been worried about you and you are one of my favorite people.

454 Bagua  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:58:22pm

re: #378 Walter L. Newton

Let me remind you of something you may not have heard… not every single little mystery of the show is going to be explained before the finale.

The producers have stated over and over, some things are just the “world” of the show, you will have enough info to infer some answers that are not directly answered, and some thing will be outright answered, but all in all, some aspect of the show just are.

Like the Numbers. There is no further explanation of the numbers. It is fate that they keep showing up, but there is no real motive behind them reappearing over and over.

See?

Yes, I do. I read an article in which it was said that the ending will lead to many new questions, and fertile ground for the fans to come up with varying theories.

Even were they to attempt an explain it all ending, there doesn’t seem enough time left to do so. The alternative would require a deus ex machina.

I reckon some sort of extra-terrestrial connection is likely at this point.

455 cliffster  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:58:23pm

If a deaf person signs swear words….does his mother wash his hands with soap?

456 Irenicum  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:58:26pm

re: #450 LudwigVanQuixote

They’ve obviously been watching too much Jack Bauer.

457 jamesfirecat  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:58:39pm

re: #436 brookly red

funny thing about panzer commanders… Germany has not a single oil well. how did they do it?

If memory serves they used to be able to get at least some of their gas from Russia when they had an alliance. (Another reason to make attacking the USSR a very stupid move) That and they actually came up with all kinds of interesting workarounds, if memory serves “Why the allies won” suggests they had some kind of process which started with wallnuts and ended with fuel for tanks….

458 Vicious Babushka  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:59:04pm

re: #453 LudwigVanQuixote

Are you feeling better. I have been worried about you and you are one of my favorite people.

Am I like your Internet Mother?

459 brookly red  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:59:29pm

re: #457 jamesfirecat

If memory serves they used to be able to get at least some of their gas from Russia when they had an alliance. (Another reason to make attacking the USSR a very stupid move) That and they actually came up with all kinds of interesting workarounds, if memory serves “Why the allies won” suggests they had some kind of process which started with wallnuts and ended with fuel for tanks…

they squeezed coal.

460 MandyManners  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:59:45pm

re: #443 Oh no…Sand People!

The song is “I’m the man”…

/nevermind…

Puzzled the fuck outta’ me.

461 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 8:59:51pm

re: #458 Alouette

Am I like your Internet Mother?

Well if you are going to respond like that… wait that does sound like my mom.. Mom? Is that you?

462 Reginald Perrin  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:00:02pm

re: #421 Aceofwhat?

I vote for loafers. It works on more levels…

Do we have to name them after the entire shoe, what about just calling them heels?

There are two kinds of heels, rubber ones and shit ones.
The stalkers don’t bounce.

463 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:00:14pm

re: #455 cliffster

If a deaf person signs swear words…does his mother wash his hands with soap?

That reminds me of a joke. It’s one of my least proud moments in life but I basically read and memorized Truly Tasteless Jokes Volumes 1-6. I have spent the last 16 years trying to forget them.

464 cliffster  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:00:15pm

re: #461 LudwigVanQuixote

Well if you are going to respond like that… wait that does sound like my mom.. Mom? Is that you?

awkward

465 MandyManners  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:00:21pm

re: #448 Alouette

banned, tanned and shitcanned.

Oh, you.

466 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:00:40pm

re: #156 Aceofwhat?

i’m not following. the R’s who are overzealously pursuing immigrants also seekritly employ them?

seems counterproductive…

Not really. California agriculture plays it both ways. They hire illegal workers in mass numbers, but have often favored hardball laws because it gives them the upper hand in employee management.

467 Irenicum  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:00:51pm

re: #461 LudwigVanQuixote

Reminds me of an old Police song called Mother. Very Freudian and damn funny too.

468 cliffster  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:01:06pm

re: #463 Oh no…Sand People!

That reminds me of a joke. It’s one of my least proud moments in life but I basically read and memorized Truly Tasteless Jokes Volumes 1-6. I have spent the last 16 years trying to forget them.

You and millions of kids around the country 25 years ago.

469 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:01:13pm

re: #458 Alouette

Am I like your Internet Mother?

No seriously, I like you and I wanted to hear you were doing better.

470 jamesfirecat  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:01:26pm

re: #459 brookly red

they squeezed coal.

I thought that was how Superman got his diamonds.

471 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:02:05pm

re: #405 LudwigVanQuixote

You got distracted by the corset & the crop!
LOL!

472 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:02:10pm

re: #462 Reginald Perrin

Do we have to name them after the entire shoe, what about just calling them heels?

There are two kinds of heels, rubber ones and shit ones.
The stalkers don’t bounce.

boots was a good suggestion, too…booted and then skinned to be the veneer for the next boot…

473 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:02:13pm

re: #179 Aceofwhat?

oh, come on. austrian economics make more sense than that little conspiracy theory.

if brown people without papers are going to be rounded up, and your business is afloat on the backs of brown people without papers, your employees aren’t going to show up as they get corralled over time and your business will fail…not a difficult concept.

Depends what kind of work you hire them to do. Remember, new ones are always coming.

474 brookly red  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:02:24pm

re: #470 jamesfirecat

I thought that was how Superman got his diamonds.

he squeezed much harder…

and with that good night good folk.

475 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:02:41pm

By the way that sort of sarcasm is common to *all* Jewish mothers. I think it something that comes on the second x chromosome and goes all the way back to Sarah. I could be wrong though.

476 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:03:07pm

re: #471 Floral Giraffe

You got distracted by the corset & the crop!
LOL!

LOL brilliant!

*whack*

477 reine.de.tout  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:03:24pm

re: #474 brookly red

he squeezed much harder…

and with that good night good folk.

WAIT, brookly!
Before you go - you are featured in Cato’s back-cover poem!
You must buy a cookbook!

478 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:03:38pm

re: #466 SanFranciscoZionist

Yep. It’s true all through the Central Valley, and even up in Napa. Though Napa is liberal, the valley farmers are the arch-conservatives of California.

479 Nimed  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:03:43pm

re: #96 Decatur Deb

On the other hand, in a thousand years or so, we can show the Chinese tourists our wall.

Moderns walls bring bad luck. It is virtually certain that some foreign leader from a rival superpower will ask our President to tear it down, and soon after the country goes down the drain.

480 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:03:48pm

Currently at 97,600 plus words on my first novel and am going to get back to it.

Later folks.

481 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:04:27pm

re: #254 brookly red

Mohammad Atta had four of them… think about that.

But you figure he couldn’t have had four national ID cards?

482 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:04:30pm

re: #479 Nimed

That’s so last century.

483 cliffster  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:04:44pm

My niece is getting married in July.. just got the invitation. I remember the day she was born.

*sniff*

484 Bubblehead II  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:05:10pm

re: #448 Alouette

banned, tanned and shitcanned.

You forgot toasted and roasted as well. We don’t waste anything here at LGF.

485 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:05:21pm

re: #256 austin_blue

Are you talking about Houston? That was home invasion gang that had a guy who presented himself as a census employee to get in the door. Then the crew busted in. Get the facts right.

The only census worker I’ve seen so far was the guy who knocked on the door to ask if I knew the people in #23.

I don’t.

I told him, trying to be encouraging, that we had sent ours in.

He said, “That’s why I’m not here for you.”

486 albusteve  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:05:21pm

re: #479 Nimed

Moderns walls bring bad luck. It is virtually certain that some foreign leader from a rival superpower will ask our President to tear it down, and soon after the country goes down the drain.

hahaha!….good one

487 jaunte  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:06:00pm

re: #479 Nimed

Moderns walls bring bad luck. It is virtually certain that some foreign leader from a rival superpower will ask our President to tear it down, and soon after the country goes down the drain.

We might spend the money to build it, and then give it to Panama.

488 Bubblehead II  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:06:18pm

re: #450 LudwigVanQuixote

Ohh I am liking boots even better than loafers or moccasins. Boots works on lots of levels too.

BTW the stalker blog was talking about electrifying the terrorists privates.

And this surprises you? Charles tossed those creeps for a reason.

489 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:06:24pm

re: #414 SanFranciscoZionist

“No battle plan has ever survived contact with the enemy.” I think that was some panzer commander, but I always say Bismarck, ‘cause it sounds less creepy.

You’re close. It was Field Marshal von Moltke the Elder who said that. He was head of Prussia’s army during the Franco Prussian War and clashed with Bismarck over the conduct of the Siege of Paris at times. Bismarck won out at length, but the idea of the primacy of the military had been planted in Germany and it would bear bitter fruit in WWI.

490 albusteve  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:07:21pm

re: #487 jaunte

We might spend the money to build it, and then give it to Panama.

there is a fortune to be made in the extension ladder business…it’s all a nefarious plot

491 jaunte  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:08:30pm

re: #490 albusteve

The smart money is getting out of gold and into aluminum.
[Link: www.wernerladder.com…]

492 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:08:34pm

Ohh I found Snork’s engineering exam.

Image: whatsthedifference.jpg

And here is Savage’s History exam:

Image: stayoffmyproperty.jpg

And this is from when Bunk x tried to do biology

Image: outlinetheroleof.jpg

493 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:09:43pm

re: #473 SanFranciscoZionist

Depends what kind of work you hire them to do. Remember, new ones are always coming.

eh, far less if we’re “getting tough on illegal immigration”. exploitation and tough immigration policies are mutually exclusive. we need to inject the ‘evil republicans’ musing with an occasional logic booster;)

494 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:10:05pm

re: #480 Oh no…Sand People!

Currently at 97,600 plus words on my first novel and am going to get back to it.

Later folks.

Good luck and good work!

495 Nimed  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:10:06pm

Hell, if the right wingers in the thread won’t say it, I will. Austrian Economics is not completely crazy. It was once taken seriously.

Hayek, from The Road to Serfdom fame, was an economist from the Austrian school. The book is still very good today, every liberal should read it as a light primer on pubic choice theory.

496 Walter L. Newton  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:10:35pm

re: #437 reine.de.tout

He is no longer among us.
banned

Oh…

497 albusteve  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:10:52pm

re: #493 Aceofwhat?

eh, far less if we’re “getting tough on illegal immigration”. exploitation and tough immigration policies are mutually exclusive. we need to inject the ‘evil republicans’ musing with an occasional logic booster;)

border Nazis

498 cliffster  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:12:12pm

re: #491 jaunte

The smart money is getting out of gold and into aluminum.
[Link: www.wernerladder.com…]

Buy land, they’re not making any more of it.

— Mark Twain or Will Rogers, depends who you ask

499 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:13:18pm

re: #495 Nimed

Hell, if the right wingers in the thread won’t say it, I will. Austrian Economics is not completely crazy. It was once taken seriously.

Hayek, from The Road to Serfdom fame, was an economist from the Austrian school. The book is still very good today, every liberal should read it as a light primer on pubic choice theory.

i’m interested in pubic choice;)

500 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:13:22pm

In honor of the topic of this thread though:

501 jamesfirecat  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:14:01pm

re: #498 cliffster

Buy land, they’re not making any more of it.

— Mark Twain or Will Rogers, depends who you ask

Lex Luthor has frequently had thoughts based along similar lines….

502 Nimed  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:14:25pm

re: #499 Aceofwhat?

i’m interested in pubic choice;)

Oh geez… That was the king of all PIMFs
*blush*

503 albusteve  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:14:43pm

re: #498 cliffster

Buy land, they’re not making any more of it.

— Mark Twain or Will Rogers, depends who you ask

buy land?…you sound like a Paulian whacko….invest in some limited commodity?

504 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:14:50pm

And here is an early test taken buy Buzzy:

Image: traceyiswrong.jpg

505 Aceofwhat?  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:16:34pm

good night all

506 MandyManners  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:16:43pm

re: #501 jamesfirecat

DID YOU PASS?

507 reine.de.tout  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:16:50pm

re: #505 Aceofwhat?

good night all

g’night, Ace.

508 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:16:50pm

re: #495 Nimed

Hell, if the right wingers in the thread won’t say it, I will. Austrian Economics is not completely crazy. It was once taken seriously.

Hayek, from The Road to Serfdom fame, was an economist from the Austrian school. The book is still very good today, every liberal should read it as a light primer on pubic choice theory.

Hayek did write well and I have defended him before, so i’m sorry if I did not do so this time. The thing is that the Paulian crowd seems to have appropriated the “Austrian School” label, thus making it crazy. The Bad Craziness infects any institution it is allowed a foothold in.

509 cliffster  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:17:40pm

re: #505 Aceofwhat?

good night all

night ace

510 Walter L. Newton  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:17:56pm

re: #509 cliffster

night ace

Night ace

511 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:18:11pm

re: #493 Aceofwhat?

eh, far less if we’re “getting tough on illegal immigration”. exploitation and tough immigration policies are mutually exclusive. we need to inject the ‘evil republicans’ musing with an occasional logic booster;)

Let me just say that my doubts about ‘sealing the border’ have long been on record on this site, and I’ve seen a lot of ‘get tough’ ideas rise and fall.

512 jamesfirecat  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:18:12pm

re: #506 MandyManners

DID YOU PASS?

If you’re talking about my big exam I’m sad to say that I don’t know yet at the moment don’t worry for good or ill I’ll let LGF know as soon as I find out, hopefully my teacher will have graded it before I wake up in the morning as I full intend to sleep in.

513 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:18:34pm

re: #485 SanFranciscoZionist

The only census worker I’ve seen so far was the guy who knocked on the door to ask if I knew the people in #23.

I don’t.

I told him, trying to be encouraging, that we had sent ours in.

He said, “That’s why I’m not here for you.”

The Census insists we (yes, I’m doing it too) find proxy’s when we can’t find people who live in the actual unit. I’m not sure what the heck I’m going to do when I exhaust all the “proxy’s” in an apartment building.

514 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:18:43pm

re: #462 Reginald Perrin

Do we have to name them after the entire shoe, what about just calling them heels?

There are two kinds of heels, rubber ones and shit ones.
The stalkers don’t bounce.

Worn down heels, at that!

515 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:19:39pm

re: #493 Aceofwhat?

No. You really won’t be able to stem the tide enough without resorting to tactics that would be unAmerican. And we’d need a much less random immigration law, I think, as well. The current system gives immigrants very, very poor odds.

I favor a program of working for citizenship, either in the army or in a needed service profession. I think there are lots and lots of immigrants of exactly the kind that would best fit into the fabric of America who would love to go after those opportunities.

And we need an expanded worker program as well, because we really do depend on that migrant labor. To me there’s nothing more foolish than a government trying to outlaw a market force. We can either accept the rise in the price of our food that would come from both hiring only those legally able to work but also the cost of the companies policing their employees that thoroughly.

I think we’d rather— and it’d be better for our economy— to expand a worker program and legitimize what is already a fact of life. Then improve things for the workers, and turn them into a new goddamn Mexican middle class, and send them back into Mexico to shape that country into a grand new spanking uncorrupt Mexico! Viva Mexico! Andalé!

516 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:19:58pm

re: #513 eclectic infidel

The Census insists we (yes, I’m doing it too) find proxy’s when we can’t find people who live in the actual unit. I’m not sure what the heck I’m going to do when I exhaust all the “proxy’s” in an apartment building.

Presumably the manager of the building will at least be able to tell you how many people live in the unit. But if they’re not on site, I guess that doesn’t help.

517 MandyManners  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:20:36pm

I’m gonna figure a way to beat the snot out of you.

518 cliffster  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:22:34pm

re: #517 MandyManners

I’m gonna figure a way to beat the snot out of you.

My mom used to always tell me she was going to slap the snot out of me and then slap me for snottin’. She still does tell me that, but she used to mean it.

519 albusteve  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:23:00pm

re: #511 SanFranciscoZionist

Let me just say that my doubts about ‘sealing the border’ have long been on record on this site, and I’ve seen a lot of ‘get tough’ ideas rise and fall.

the border will never be ‘sealed’…it will never even be monitored to any degree of security….it has become a liberal dumping ground for accusing intolerance, bigotry and even racism…the cartels know this and will use our neglect to their advantage…it’s all our fault, we are such self a centered culture

520 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:23:19pm

re: #517 MandyManners

I’m gonna figure a way to beat the snot out of you.

What’d I do now???

521 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:23:28pm

re: #516 SanFranciscoZionist

Presumably the manager of the building will at least be able to tell you how many people live in the unit. But if they’re not on site, I guess that doesn’t help.

I actually got the number of the apartment manager today by randomly knocking on doors. That’ll take care of two units, at least. I’ve got to say that I don’t see what the big fricken deal it is to fill out the census form. I’m already half inclined to just prefer that the Feds begin penalizing people who refuse to partake in the Census. While I appreciate the work, I don’t appreciate the people who get pissy with me. Anyway, it’s not like I expect much from people these days anyway.

522 freetoken  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:23:34pm

This should feed the conspiracy folk:

Soros approves RI proposal to form climate agency

UN climate adviser George Soros has agreed to a proposal made by Indonesia to establish a local agency that would manage international support for the country’s efforts to tackle climate change.

The agency would be headed by senior government official Kuntoro Mangkusubroto, Indonesia’s Forestry Minister Zulkifli Hasan said after a meeting between Soros and President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono at the Presidential Office in Jakarta on Monday.
“The agency will manage local and international funds and monitor, report on and verify agreed projects,” Zulkifli said.

In a press conference, Soros said Indonesia was justified in receiving international grants and loans in return for protecting its forests and peat land.

UN
“Climate change”
George Soros !!
Indonesia

Well, there is only one name missing from that list, no?

523 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:23:35pm

re: #508 Dark_Falcon

Nonetheless, the Austrian School of economics really, really is a very fringe school of economics that does not enjoy a very good reputation. Moreover, I think that it has a fundamental mistake, in that it doesn’t realize that any market is by nature evolutionary; that over time the most efficient market strategies will not necessarily be ones that actually produce anything of value. Any economy of sufficient complexity can, and will, be gamed— largely by the manipulation of information. Austrian economics can only make sense if people actually have a coherent knowledge of the economy, but it is it in the economic best interests of anyone selling anything in the market that consumers know as little as possible about the state of the market.

It has other fundamental flaws, too. But that’s one of its most famous.

524 jaunte  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:23:48pm

re: #520 Floral Giraffe

What’d I do now???

You looked guilty…

525 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:24:51pm

re: #524 jaunte

Not me, I lie like a rug!

526 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:25:09pm

re: #518 cliffster

My mom used to always tell me she was going to slap the snot out of me and then slap me for snottin’. She still does tell me that, but she used to mean it.

What an awful thing for a mother to say to a child. Geesh.

527 Nimed  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:26:37pm

re: #522 freetoken

This should feed the conspiracy folk:

Soros approves RI proposal to form climate agency

UN
“Climate change”
George Soros !!
Indonesia

Well, there is only one name missing from that list, no?

Audiovisual answer:

528 cliffster  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:27:42pm

re: #526 eclectic infidel

What an awful thing for a mother to say to a child. Geesh.

Things were different way back then, in the days before.. Hannah Montana

529 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:29:24pm

re: #528 cliffster

Things were different way back then, in the days before.. Hannah Montana

Not trying to be a smart ass, but I’m not in the least familiar with Hannah Montana.

530 albusteve  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:29:25pm

re: #526 eclectic infidel

What an awful thing for a mother to say to a child. Geesh.

child abuse!….call in the State!

531 jaunte  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:29:37pm

re: #519 albusteve

the border will never be ‘sealed’…it will never even be monitored to any degree of security…it has become a liberal dumping ground for accusing intolerance, bigotry and even racism…the cartels know this and will use our neglect to their advantage…it’s all our fault, we are such self a centered culture

Ambrose Bierce:
Amnesty, n. The state’s magnanimity to those offenders whom it would be too expensive to punish.

532 Nimed  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:30:05pm

re: #527 Nimed

Paul Simon and Chevy Chase rock. That is just a fact.

533 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:30:33pm
534 cliffster  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:31:50pm

re: #529 eclectic infidel

Not trying to be a smart ass, but I’m not in the least familiar with Hannah Montana.

Enjoy

535 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:32:08pm

re: #533 SanFranciscoZionist


In the early hours of Sunday 9 May, the Islamic authorities in Iran executed Farzad Kamangar and four other political prisoners. Farzad Kamangar was a teacher and a human rights activist, whose release had been the object of high profile campaigns in Iran and internationally over the past two years. The other four political activists who were executed on Sunday in Evin Prison were Ali Heydarian, Farhad Vakili, Shirin Alam-Houli and Mehdi Eslamian.

All five had been sentenced to death for their political opposition to the regime. The sentences were carried out in secret, without their families or lawyers being informed.

Bastards.

536 Nimed  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:32:44pm

re: #516 SanFranciscoZionist

Presumably the manager of the building will at least be able to tell you how many people live in the unit. But if they’re not on site, I guess that doesn’t help.

SFZ, by the way, and in case you didn’t catch my recommendation in the other thread - you should definitely read A Game of Thrones.

537 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:33:04pm

re: #532 Nimed

Paul Simon and Chevy Chase rock. That is just a fact.

Agreed. Great vid.

538 albusteve  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:34:13pm

re: #531 jaunte

Ambrose Bierce:
Amnesty, n. The state’s magnanimity to those offenders whom it would be too expensive to punish.

potential voters…abused by both political parties regardless of the fact that it’s biting us in the ass…politicians are most consumed with re-election and a fan base…the disciples of the feds will offer nothing less, right here at LGF

539 palomino  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:36:34pm

Way to take the long view, McCain: Win a primary, but help your party lose the remaining 35% of the Hispanic vote for the next generation.

540 cliffster  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:36:46pm

re: #533 SanFranciscoZionist

From Iran Solidarity.

And so it goes, and so it goes. And so will you soon I suppose (let’s hope so)

541 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:40:37pm

re: #539 palomino

Way to take the long view, McCain: Win a primary, but help your party lose the remaining 35% of the Hispanic vote for the next generation.

He may figure he can help salvage things after the fever breaks.

542 Bubblehead II  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:41:21pm

BTW Lizards. I have a pre-print copy of the cook book. I helped proof read it and still bought a copy.

You can get the finished product here.

543 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:42:07pm

Hee hee. Alan Colmes just said, “the only thing going for the Democratic Party is that the Republican party is being torn apart.” It’s good to hear.

544 jaunte  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:42:34pm

re: #542 Bubblehead II

BTW Lizards. I have a pre-print copy of the cook book. I helped proof read it and still bought a copy.


There can be no higher praise!1!

545 palomino  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:50:53pm

re: #541 Dark_Falcon

He may figure he can help salvage things after the fever breaks.

I don’t mean to be flippant, but I don’t think he’ll be around (at least not in fighting shape) when this fever finally subsides.

546 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:52:30pm

re: #545 palomino

I don’t mean to be flippant, but I don’t think he’ll be around (at least not in fighting shape) when this fever finally subsides.

He and I hope otherwise.

547 albusteve  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:54:30pm

re: #546 Dark_Falcon

He and I hope otherwise.

McCain was washed up when he backed GBs amnesty gig…he’s a lost pol, out of touch and rotting…his time is long past

548 Lidane  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:56:58pm

re: #523 Obdicut

Oy. I used to get into long, involved discussions with people who were von Mises disciples. They’d constantly natter on about praxeology and about how unless I could quote from Human Action chapter and verse, I was utterly clueless about economics and I would never understand anything about the market or about how money worked.

No surprise— they were also anarcho-capitalists that believed in privatizing everything (including the police, the courts, and all emergency services!), they reviled Lincoln as TEH WORST PREZNIT EVAR OMG and were followers of Luap Nor.

After a while, it got tedious talking to them, so I just resorted to open mockery instead.

549 freetoken  Mon, May 10, 2010 9:58:30pm

re: #548 Lidane

It’s an all too common package.

550 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, May 10, 2010 10:01:29pm

Okay. G’night.

551 Lidane  Mon, May 10, 2010 10:01:52pm

re: #549 freetoken

It’s an all too common package.

Which is sadly becoming much more common, like people reading Ayn Rand and thinking that she had good ideas. =P

552 Bubblehead II  Mon, May 10, 2010 10:03:17pm

Time to call it a night. Day/Swing Shift Lizards, Sleep well.

Graveyard Lizards, May I wish you a Good Morning.

And I will see some of you in about about 6 hrs or so.

L8R

553 avanti  Mon, May 10, 2010 10:12:51pm

Nissan Leaf, all electric green car. Not for everyone yet, but it’s a possible future.

Not quite ready for prime time, but a interesting commuter car and a peek at the future.

First drive.

more on the Leaf

More.

Price after tax savings, net As Low As $25,280: MSRP $32,780 with federal tax savings from 0-$7,500

$349 a month1 – 36 month lease ($1,999 initial customer payment)

554 freetoken  Mon, May 10, 2010 10:12:57pm

re: #551 Lidane

Yeah. You can go to the Mises website and find all sorts of idiots, such as Lew Rockwell, writing under their banner. His current article there on the ongoing BP oil disaster is down right ridiculous.

555 Stanley Sea  Mon, May 10, 2010 10:19:01pm

Lakers swept Utah!

556 Lidane  Mon, May 10, 2010 10:19:09pm

Switching gears, but Ah-nuld got in a joke at Arizona’s expense today:

Schwarzenegger makes Arizona joke at commencement

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger joked that he was afraid of being deported in Arizona during a commencement speech he delivered Monday at Emory University in Atlanta.

Schwarzenegger’s office provided a copy of his prepared remarks and confirmed he made the Arizona joke.

“I was also going to give a graduation speech in Arizona this weekend,” Schwarzenegger said. “But with my accent I was afraid they would try to deport me.”

The Republican governor is opposed to Arizona’s new immigration law and said last month, “I would never do that in California.” Schwarzenegger has blamed the federal government for not securing the border.

557 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 10, 2010 10:19:28pm

The Boys From Mombasa

Some days the jealousy was more than Sam H. Kent could handle. Every time Sam caught a glimpse of Barack H. Obama on his TV screen, he could see in his mind’s eye the gangly 9-year-old boy with the dazzling smile in the encampment outside Mombasa. Once Sam’s life was guided by the final words from the Guardians as all the boys (each with the middle initial “H”) were put on that big jet for America: “We will guide your way. You will rule the world — if you obey. Defy us — and you will decay.”

Okay, now it all sounds like a bad science-fiction movie. But the Guardians did keep up their end of the deal … for a while. There was a new family, Ma and Pa Kent. A girl friend named Lois. At the University of Iowa, Sam kept finding the answers to his exams in the freezer … the night before the tests were given. Ma and Pa Kent’s tragic car accident left him enough money to buy the Chrysler dealership as a springboard to politics. And a big-name political consultant from Chicago suddenly arrived to run his 1996 campaign for the Iowa state senate.

558 Lidane  Mon, May 10, 2010 10:20:19pm

re: #554 freetoken

Yeah. You can go to the Mises website and find all sorts of idiots, such as Lew Rockwell, writing under their banner. His current article there on the ongoing BP oil disaster is down right ridiculous.

What kills me is that those nutjobs were all on the fringes just a couple of years ago, and now they’re driving the state platform in Maine and are angling for more influence everywhere else.

WTF? Seriously. I don’t understand how the hell these people got a foothold anywhere in mainstream politics.

559 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 10, 2010 10:26:59pm

re: #557 SanFranciscoZionist

That’s some crazy-ass nirther stuff.

Getting tired so I’m going to sign off for the night. Sleep well, all.

560 Stanley Sea  Mon, May 10, 2010 10:29:48pm

re: #557 SanFranciscoZionist

The comments are pretty wild - either confused, spewing more conspiracy or mocking same.

561 Nimed  Mon, May 10, 2010 10:31:20pm

re: #557 SanFranciscoZionist

The Boys From Mombasa

Some days the jealousy was more than Sam H. Kent could handle. Every time Sam caught a glimpse of Barack H. Obama on his TV screen, he could see in his mind’s eye the gangly 9-year-old boy with the dazzling smile in the encampment outside Mombasa. Once Sam’s life was guided by the final words from the Guardians as all the boys (each with the middle initial “H”) were put on that big jet for America: “We will guide your way. You will rule the world — if you obey. Defy us — and you will decay.”

Okay, now it all sounds like a bad science-fiction movie. But the Guardians did keep up their end of the deal … for a while. There was a new family, Ma and Pa Kent. A girl friend named Lois. At the University of Iowa, Sam kept finding the answers to his exams in the freezer … the night before the tests were given. Ma and Pa Kent’s tragic car accident left him enough money to buy the Chrysler dealership as a springboard to politics. And a big-name political consultant from Chicago suddenly arrived to run his 1996 campaign for the Iowa state senate.

Wow. An America sprinkled with dozens of 49 year-old failed Barack Obamas.
These guys are not bad. It’s a great story, actually.

562 Nimed  Mon, May 10, 2010 10:35:17pm

re: #558 Lidane

What kills me is that those nutjobs were all on the fringes just a couple of years ago, and now they’re driving the state platform in Maine and are angling for more influence everywhere else.

WTF? Seriously. I don’t understand how the hell these people got a foothold anywhere in mainstream politics.

I believe it’s in part due to the appeal of some libertarian proposals in the post-9/11 world. No more wars, a return to balanced budgets, rejection of the Patriot Act; this stuff sounds very good to a lot of people. It’s naturally popular.

563 freetoken  Mon, May 10, 2010 10:43:56pm

re: #558 Lidane

WTF? Seriously. I don’t understand how the hell these people got a foothold anywhere in mainstream politics.

All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

In other words, in this darwinian world we have to compete to survive.

564 Nimed  Mon, May 10, 2010 10:44:12pm

re: #557 SanFranciscoZionist

Hmmm….

Is there something you were trying to tell us back there, SanFranZ? Are you… a girl from Mombasa?

If so, when did you discover it wasn’t going to be you? When did you stop receiving the text answers in the freezer?

565 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 10, 2010 10:47:38pm

re: #564 Nimed

Hmmm…

Is there something you were trying to tell us back there, SanFranZ? Are you… a girl from Mombasa?

If so, when did you discover it wasn’t going to be you? When did you stop receiving the text answers in the freezer?

That’s SanFran H. Z. to you…

And I’m only thirty-six—I’m still getting the messages in the freezer. For the next wave.

566 Four More Tears  Mon, May 10, 2010 10:52:21pm

re: #565 SanFranciscoZionist

I get messages, too.

“Dear Mr. Jason.

I am hoping to receive your aid in the transferance of a sum of seven million US dollars I have inherited from my deeply departed uncle, a very well-known general who’s name I cannot share with you. For your assisstance i am wiling to bequeath upon you a vast partition of said munnies…

567 Nimed  Mon, May 10, 2010 10:57:43pm

re: #566 JasonA

Hey JasonA. You were sorely missed in the Elena Kagan thread.

568 Four More Tears  Mon, May 10, 2010 11:02:41pm

re: #567 Nimed

Hey JasonA. You were sorely missed in the Elena Kagan thread.

I’m weird like that. If I spend too much time here I’ll get LGF burnout and then I really disappear. For like, three months. It’s better this way.

Truth is, I’m something of a nomad. I go to a site, join the community for a while, then wander elsewhere. It helps if I ration my time better.

569 Nimed  Mon, May 10, 2010 11:03:46pm

re: #565 SanFranciscoZionist

Looks like I forgot to take your H. into account.

Oh shuddup. It was hilarious.

570 JRCMYP  Tue, May 11, 2010 5:29:41am

OMG. McCain has become a cheesy Lifetime movie trailer.

571 Cato the Elder  Tue, May 11, 2010 5:40:06am

McCain is such a sellsoul.

572 Sacred Plants  Tue, May 11, 2010 6:03:50am

“Since I declared myself her indispensable friend, I am allowed do anything she does to defend herself without even being likewise threatened.”

/”accept israel”

573 Stanley Sea  Tue, May 11, 2010 8:35:30am

See wrenchwench’s link posted, McCain is talking to the sheriff of another county. The sheriff of the county he’s at? That sheriff is against the new AZ law!

574 tigger2005  Tue, May 11, 2010 9:44:56am

McCain is Mongo?

575 danshelb  Tue, May 11, 2010 10:03:58am

Good grief that is one of the most awkward 30 seconds of my life. John McCain, please just go away.

576 syrius  Tue, May 11, 2010 10:29:28am

You’re one of us, alright! It reminds me of the famous line in “FREAKS” circa 1932- “We accept you, one of us! Gooble Gobble!”…
This whole movement just stinks to high heaven!

577 Dr. Shalit  Tue, May 11, 2010 6:48:06pm

Don’t Get ME Going About This One -

I am squishy on this issue, at least concerning Mexican Citizens already in the USA. I work and live with the Mr. & Mrs. Gonzalezes, Martinezes and Lopezes.
To an extent, I agree with former Mexican President Fox that there “is NO Border” which actually means that “There IS NO Mexico” - Only a North American Tri-Lingual Community - English, Spanish, French - in that order.
I can accept that, if/when the arrangements are made. The “Arrangements” are still in flux. SO - a “Modest Proposal” - Visas of one sort or another for Mexican Citizens in the USA - AND CANADA! Live and Work, North of the Rio Grande without fear, AND without Citizenship or the Vote unless and until arrangements are finalized. Discussion?

-S-


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