Jon Stewart on ‘Obama’s Harriet Miers’
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jamesfirecat Wed, May 12, 2010 10:30:45am |
I was hoping the fact that he had a clip showing someone saying “Obama’s Katrina” would lead to him yet again pimping “Jon Stewart sings all the songs from West Side Story re-lyriced to be about the BP oil rig disaster.”
Katrina… I just met Obama’s Katrina!
I feel gritty… oh so gritty….
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reidr Wed, May 12, 2010 10:30:59am |
That was an insightful bit. Bush sure had a lot of “moments” to compare to. Too bad for the right that Obama’s moments are usually nowhere near as bad….
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darthstar Wed, May 12, 2010 10:31:08am |
Obama’s Katrina
Obama’s Harriet
What’s next? Obama’s DUI?
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Four More Tears Wed, May 12, 2010 10:31:31am |
The whole ascot thing Monday and last Thursday night was hysterical.
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reidr Wed, May 12, 2010 10:33:26am |
re: #4 JasonA
The whole ascot thing Monday and last Thursday night was hysterical.
Yeah, but I’m still not sure what an ascot is. A tie done up as a neck scarf/hankie thing? It does look more comfortable than a tie. Wikipedia to the rescue….
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cliffster Wed, May 12, 2010 10:34:41am |
She’s a short, chimney-smokin beer guzzling poker player. My kind of girl.
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jamesfirecat Wed, May 12, 2010 10:36:28am |
Proving that I may someday be able to live the dream of being one of Jon Stewart’s 90 writers, I was able to predict the “Danny Devito” comparison a good five to ten seconds before it happened.
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 10:39:35am |
It ain’t Tu Quoque unless you use it as an excuse.
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Virginia Plain Wed, May 12, 2010 10:39:54am |
The best part is they are willfully ignorant that they are admitting to the fact that George W. Bush was a f***-up.
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Cato the Elder Wed, May 12, 2010 10:40:06am |
Elena Kagan: the Tyrion Lannister of the Supreme Court!
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Four More Tears Wed, May 12, 2010 10:40:43am |
re: #10 Cato the Elder
Elena Kagan: the Tyrion Lannister of the Supreme Court!
Are you up to book 3 yet?
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Kragar Wed, May 12, 2010 10:40:54am |
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Virginia Plain Wed, May 12, 2010 10:40:54am |
At least Kagan is the Dean of a law school. You can’t say that about Harriet Miers.
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 10:41:26am |
My favorite comments today in the local paper’s blog were “I just can’t support someone for the Supreme court who doesn’t seem to be family oriented…” I reminded them that David Souter was a 71 year old confirmed bachelor and I don’t recall him legislating from the bench in order to harm children or families.
Gaaah - teh stupid, it hurts.
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Four More Tears Wed, May 12, 2010 10:41:37am |
re: #13 Virginia Plain
At least Kagan is the Dean of a law school. You can’t say that about Harriet Miers.
What can you say about Harriet?
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cliffster Wed, May 12, 2010 10:41:38am |
I feel bad for Harriet Miers. I’m sure she’s a nice lady, and now her name is being used as a pejorative.
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 10:42:23am |
re: #5 reidr
Yeah, but I’m still not sure what an ascot is.
I think an ass cot is where you rest your butt.
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Virginia Plain Wed, May 12, 2010 10:42:25am |
re: #15 JasonA
What can you say about Harriet?
That she was a Bush lackey who was only nominated because she was a Bush lackey.
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Four More Tears Wed, May 12, 2010 10:42:34am |
re: #16 cliffster
I feel bad for Harriet Miers. I’m sure she’s a nice lady, and now her name is being used as a pejorative.
In defense of her ridicule I want to point out that she didn’t have to accept the nomination.
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MrSilverDragon Wed, May 12, 2010 10:42:46am |
I don’t know why they keep having to dig up Bush’s mistakes or missteps, when clearly all these problems began when William Henry Harrison took office.
/
(blame game is stupid. concentrate on now.)
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cliffster Wed, May 12, 2010 10:43:34am |
re: #19 JasonA
In defense of her ridicule I want to point out that she didn’t have to accept the nomination.
That is true.
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jamesfirecat Wed, May 12, 2010 10:43:35am |
re: #8 DaddyG
It ain’t Tu Quoque unless you use it as an excuse.
It is still a logical fallacy if the two events aren’t equivalent, just one without a fancy Latin name given that’s its got the boring name of “False equivalence”
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Cato the Elder Wed, May 12, 2010 10:43:49am |
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reidr Wed, May 12, 2010 10:44:57am |
re: #16 cliffster
I feel bad for Harriet Miers. I’m sure she’s a nice lady, and now her name is being used as a pejorative.
I was thinking that, too, when they put up her picture. I guess she brought it on herself a bit by not having the humility to turn it down, but she must cringe whenever a Justice steps down.
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Four More Tears Wed, May 12, 2010 10:45:16am |
re: #24 Virginia Plain
What book are you talking about?
George R.R. Martin’s “A Song of Ice and Fire” series.
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Virginia Plain Wed, May 12, 2010 10:45:24am |
She doesn’t have to cringe. It’s Obama who’s doing the picking.
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 10:47:41am |
re: #22 jamesfirecat
It is still a logical fallacy if the two events aren’t equivalent, just one without a fancy Latin name given that’s its got the boring name of “False equivalence”
Tu Quoque is a type of false equivalence that seeks to excuse one party for because someone else did it first - ignoring that it was wrong to do in both cases. A type of flase justification.
There are some really good web sites on the breakdown of logical fallacies - but they make me head hurt.
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Nimed Wed, May 12, 2010 10:48:07am |
re: #10 Cato the Elder
Elena Kagan: the Tyrion Lannister of the Supreme Court!
Here. These are my updings for the next month. Take them all!
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Randall Gross Wed, May 12, 2010 10:49:35am |
Eddi Reader - Kiteflyer’s Hill
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jamesfirecat Wed, May 12, 2010 10:49:56am |
re: #28 DaddyG
Tu Quoque is a type of false equivalence that seeks to excuse one party for because someone else did it first - ignoring that it was wrong to do in both cases. A type of flase justification.
There are some really good web sites on the breakdown of logical fallacies - but they make me head hurt.
I know that, I was arguing that while it’s no ta Tu Quoque fallacy for people to say that if there was a huge earthquake that f***ed up some major city in California and Obama was lax on getting the federal government involved for people to call that Obama’s Katrina.
However it is a false equivalence logical falicy (false equivalence) to say that Kagan is Obama’s Harriet Miers just because she’s never been a judge…
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Linden Arden Wed, May 12, 2010 10:51:14am |
My money would be on Kagan when Jeff Sessions interrogates her in the Senate Judiciary Committee meeting.
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 10:51:30am |
re: #31 jamesfirecat
I agree- I just said it wrong.
Here is that really cool site that makes my head hurt…
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 10:53:00am |
re: #33 DaddyG
I agree- I just said it wrong.
Here is that really cool site that makes my head hurt…
They put To Quoque under Red Herring/Ad Hominem and 2 Wrongs make a right. Whoa! I learned something. Time for a nap.
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Four More Tears Wed, May 12, 2010 10:53:08am |
OT: Rekers, In Resignation: ‘I Am Not Gay’
“I am immediately resigning my membership in NARTH to allow myself the time necessary to fight the false media reports that have been made against me,” he said in a statement. “With the assistance of a defamation attorney, I will fight these false reports because I have not engaged in any homosexual behavior whatsoever. I am not gay and never have been.”
No, no, of course not. Why on earth would anyone think that, George? Thank you very much for clearing that up for us…
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reidr Wed, May 12, 2010 10:53:25am |
re: #33 DaddyG
Ooo, so many new debating techniques…. I can’t wait to try them out here!
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 10:54:46am |
re: #30 Thanos
Very cool - so that’s what Thomas Dolby is doing these days.
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Kragar Wed, May 12, 2010 10:55:57am |
re: #35 JasonA
OT: Rekers, In Resignation: ‘I Am Not Gay’
No, no, of course not. Why on earth would anyone think that, George? Thank you very much for clearing that up for us…
The fact that his “anti-defamation lawyer” is a 22 year old Brazilian underwear model named Escobar might raise a few questions.
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Four More Tears Wed, May 12, 2010 10:56:27am |
re: #38 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
The fact that his “anti-defamation lawyer” is a 22 year old Brazilian underwear model named Escobar might raise a few questions.
I hear he’s a “rental.”
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 10:56:53am |
re: #35 JasonA
OT: Rekers, In Resignation: ‘I Am Not Gay’
No, no, of course not. Why on earth would anyone think that, George? Thank you very much for clearing that up for us…
It was all a misunderstanding over the line “bag handler” in the kids resume. /
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prairiefire Wed, May 12, 2010 10:56:59am |
She seems to have the skill of listening intently to people. The key is she is a consensus builder. Maybe she and Sonia can bring some plates of good ethnic food to the office to warm up those stodgy old men. Pierogies and cafe con leche. “Aw, come on! You can’t see what he is saying?”
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Four More Tears Wed, May 12, 2010 10:57:02am |
re: #38 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
The fact that his “anti-defamation lawyer” is a 22 year old Brazilian underwear model named Escobar might raise a few questions.
So he’ll be carrying his briefs?
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jamesfirecat Wed, May 12, 2010 10:57:40am |
re: #35 JasonA
OT: Rekers, In Resignation: ‘I Am Not Gay’
No, no, of course not. Why on earth would anyone think that, George? Thank you very much for clearing that up for us…
I think Rob Zimmerman just got handed a brand a new line for his chorus about how “George Rekers is completely Heterosexual”
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What, me worry? Wed, May 12, 2010 10:59:02am |
I have to go, but I have to say this is one of Jon’s better bits.
Although it’s probably not Jon at all, but his writers whomever they may be. Remember the writer’s strike? The Daily Show SUCKED during that time and I realized just how little material Stewart actually wrote. He would literally stare into the camera for 5-10 seconds saying nothing at all. Anyway, I got a lot belly laughs from this bit.
Stay green lizards (it’s not easy being green, I know….)
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Four More Tears Wed, May 12, 2010 10:59:06am |
Obama Rejects Rush Limbaugh Golf Match
When President Obama was asked if he would play a round of golf with his talk-radio nemesis Rush Limbaugh, the response, relayed by a top Democrat, was: “Limbaugh can play with himself.”
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cliffster Wed, May 12, 2010 10:59:42am |
re: #35 JasonA
OT: Rekers, In Resignation: ‘I Am Not Gay’
No, no, of course not. Why on earth would anyone think that, George? Thank you very much for clearing that up for us…
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Four More Tears Wed, May 12, 2010 11:00:16am |
re: #44 marjoriemoon
Wasn’t it during the writer’s strike when he, Colbert and Conan O’Brien had that little inter-show thing going on? That was good stuff.
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MandyManners Wed, May 12, 2010 11:00:47am |
Wasn’t there speculation that Pres. Bush and Miers had had an affair?
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Bubblehead II Wed, May 12, 2010 11:01:56am |
Top Republican challenges Kagan’s independence
Life time appointment vs 8 years max for the President. Why do they even bother to ask this question?
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Kragar Wed, May 12, 2010 11:02:35am |
re: #49 Bubblehead II
Top Republican challenges Kagan’s independence
Life time appointment vs 8 years max for the President. Why do they even bother to ask this question?
Something to do.
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jamesfirecat Wed, May 12, 2010 11:02:56am |
re: #45 JasonA
I’ll take “Lines we can expect to see use as proof that Obama is refusing to follow his own advice about turning down the offensive rhetoric in Washington for 500 Alex!”
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 11:03:58am |
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Mark Pennington Wed, May 12, 2010 11:05:13am |
re: #35 JasonA
OT: Rekers, In Resignation: ‘I Am Not Gay’
No, no, of course not. Why on earth would anyone think that, George? Thank you very much for clearing that up for us…
Has anyone spoken to the hooker he got busted traveling with? I haven’t kept up with this drama.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, May 12, 2010 11:05:32am |
re: #52 DaddyG
“Limbaugh can play with himself.”
-This message was approved by Joycelyn Elders
And Pee Wee Herman.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 12, 2010 11:05:47am |
re: #9 Virginia Plain
The best part is they are willfully ignorant that they are admitting to the fact that George W. Bush was a f***-up.
That’s OK. Bush is long since collateral damage to this movement.
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 11:06:08am |
re: #51 jamesfirecat
I’ll take “Lines we can expect to see use as proof that Obama is refusing to follow his own advice about turning down the offensive rhetoric in Washington for 500 Alex!”
How was that offensive? I mean he’s just saying he doesn’t want to join Limbaugh for several hours while he holds his putter in his hand. //
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Four More Tears Wed, May 12, 2010 11:06:21am |
re: #53 beekiller
Has anyone spoken to the hooker he got busted traveling with? I haven’t kept up with this drama.
Yeah. He liked getting naked full-body massages, including one move that Rekers referred to as “The Long Stroke.”
Not making this stuff up.
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 11:06:54am |
re: #56 DaddyG
How was that offensive? I mean he’s just saying he doesn’t want to join Limbaugh for several hours while he holds his putter in his hand. //
Or his little white balls!
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jamesfirecat Wed, May 12, 2010 11:07:58am |
re: #56 DaddyG
How was that offensive? I mean he’s just saying he doesn’t want to join Limbaugh for several hours while he holds his putter in his hand. //
//Somehow I doubt Limbaugh has what it takes to keep his club up in the air for several hours worth of whacks.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 12, 2010 11:08:20am |
re: #48 MandyManners
Wasn’t there speculation that Pres. Bush and Miers had had an affair?
Probably. Based on anything real? Probably not.
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Four More Tears Wed, May 12, 2010 11:08:36am |
re: #59 jamesfirecat
//Somehow I doubt Limbaugh has what it takes to keep his club up in the air for several hours worth of whacks.
He could take pills for that…
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Nimed Wed, May 12, 2010 11:08:51am |
re: #55 SanFranciscoZionist
That’s OK. Bush is long since collateral damage to this movement.
Jonah Goldbert, of course, led the way by dubbing Bush a closeted right-wing socialist.
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zora Wed, May 12, 2010 11:09:14am |
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Mark Pennington Wed, May 12, 2010 11:09:14am |
re: #57 JasonA
Yeah. He liked getting naked full-body massages, including one move that Rekers referred to as “The Long Stroke.”
Not making this stuff up.
……..ummmm………
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Four More Tears Wed, May 12, 2010 11:09:51am |
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Kragar Wed, May 12, 2010 11:10:11am |
Fla. AG Defends $120K Payment to Expert Now Embroiled in Rentboy Scandal
Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum is defending the state’s payment of more than $120,000 for expert witness testimony by an anti-gay psychologist now caught up in the so-called Rentboy scandal.
The state had originally planned to pay George Rekers $60,900, but when he exceeded his contracted hours, the total fee paid came to $120,693, according to the Miami Herald and the Sarasota Herald-Tribune. Rekers, co-founder of the Family Research Council, had testified in support of the state’s ban on gay adoption. He charged $300 an hour.
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MandyManners Wed, May 12, 2010 11:10:29am |
re: #60 SanFranciscoZionist
Probably. Based on anything real? Probably not.
I don’t know why that stuck in my mind.
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Four More Tears Wed, May 12, 2010 11:11:27am |
re: #66 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I’m really in the wrong line of work…
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MandyManners Wed, May 12, 2010 11:11:38am |
re: #66 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Fla. AG Defends $120K Payment to Expert Now Embroiled in Rentboy Scandal
Hypocrisy is lucrative.
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Mark Pennington Wed, May 12, 2010 11:11:38am |
re: #66 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Fla. AG Defends $120K Payment to Expert Now Embroiled in Rentboy Scandal
What damage this fraud has caused.
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Nimed Wed, May 12, 2010 11:11:54am |
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 11:12:01am |
re: #59 jamesfirecat
//Somehow I doubt Limbaugh has what it takes to keep his club up in the air for several hours worth of whacks.
If your round is hard for more than 4 hours please consult a golf pro.
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webevintage Wed, May 12, 2010 11:12:07am |
re: #66 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Fla. AG Defends $120K Payment to Expert Now Embroiled in Rentboy Scandal
I wonder how much Mike Huckab$$ wasted of the Arkansas taxpayers money to have old Geroge whine about how the!gahy will hurt the chilldrens?
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Virginia Plain Wed, May 12, 2010 11:12:18am |
re: #63 zora
[Link: gawker.com…]
The Rentboy Speaks: George Rekers Liked ‘The Long Stroke’
This is worse than the Massa Massage. At least Eric Massa was not a homophobe like this guy is.
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MandyManners Wed, May 12, 2010 11:12:30am |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, May 12, 2010 11:13:02am |
I still want to know about the wife who was willing to let her husband take an extensive European vacation alone.
EmmmieG Household:
Mr. EmmmieG: So, the boss says I have to go to Europe for two weeks to…
*zip*
*whoosh*
*zip*
EmmmieG: Passport is updated, Mom says she’ll watch the kids, and the freezer is full of meals for the kids. I’m having my ticket fed-exed. Will you charge the batteries for the camera?
Just fishy, that’s all I’m saying, on the wife’s part.
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MandyManners Wed, May 12, 2010 11:13:26am |
re: #74 Virginia Plain
This is worse than the Massa Massage. At least Eric Massa was not a
homophobeself-hating homosexual like this guy is.
Appropriate tweak?
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webevintage Wed, May 12, 2010 11:13:46am |
If anyone is interested Rand Paul and that other guy he is running against are going to be on NPR in a few minutes.
Talk of the Nation?
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zora Wed, May 12, 2010 11:14:57am |
re: #73 webevintage
[Link: thenewcivilrightsmovement.com…]
The Arkansas judge, Timothy Fox, said Rekers’ testimony was worthless as evidence because it was only his personal view. The Arkansas Supreme Court concluded later that Rekers’ testimony was pointless and it declared Huckabee’s anti-gay rule unconstitutional. Rekers testifies as a scientific expert for states that adopt anti-gay laws. The states lose, but Rekers always takes in big fees. Rekers is supposed to be an expert in “conversion therapy,” the process of “curing” homosexuality.
Rekers upset his sponsors in Arkansas after the trial by demanding $200,000 for his expert services, which was more than Gov. Huckabee wanted to pay him. Rekers subsequently sued the state for $160,000 and eventually settled with the Department of Human Services. The taxpayers — that’s us — shelled out $60,000 to him for the privilege of being humiliated.
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 11:15:19am |
This whole thread makes me want to take a shower.
Alone.
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jamesfirecat Wed, May 12, 2010 11:16:03am |
re: #80 zora
[Link: thenewcivilrightsmovement.com…]
I wish I could get tax payers to dish out that kind of dough to watch me humiliate myself, the only problem is I keep giving it away for free!
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 12, 2010 11:16:39am |
I liked Stewart’s used car salesman analogy.
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Virginia Plain Wed, May 12, 2010 11:16:43am |
“People say that you’ll die
Faster than without water.
For they know it’s just a lie
To scare your son, scare your daughter”
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 11:17:23am |
I may cheese off a few Scientology fans here, but anti-gay conversion therapy seems to rank right up there with paying for enlightenment as measured by an e-meter.
Wow.
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webevintage Wed, May 12, 2010 11:17:45am |
re: #80 zora
[Link: thenewcivilrightsmovement.com…]
$60,000…..
I would be so very happy to live on that for a whole year.
Being an asshole on the evangelical gravy train is quite the money maker…
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Virginia Plain Wed, May 12, 2010 11:17:50am |
I don’t think there are any Scientology followers here.
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 11:18:19am |
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Virginia Plain Wed, May 12, 2010 11:18:38am |
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Kragar Wed, May 12, 2010 11:19:19am |
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darthstar Wed, May 12, 2010 11:19:56am |
Things not to say on a phone interview #327: “I like to take a look every five or six months to see what opportunities are out there”
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, May 12, 2010 11:20:08am |
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Spare O'Lake Wed, May 12, 2010 11:20:11am |
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Virginia Plain Wed, May 12, 2010 11:20:47am |
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Nimed Wed, May 12, 2010 11:20:51am |
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iossarian Wed, May 12, 2010 11:20:59am |
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MandyManners Wed, May 12, 2010 11:21:06am |
re: #88 Virginia Plain
I don’t think there are any Scientology followers here.
They’re the ones jumping on the couch.
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 11:21:11am |
re: #91 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
HAIL XENU!
Your Thetans are showing.
(Being a Mormon I know I’m throwing stones in glass houses by making fun of the weird aspects of someones religion, but for some reason Scientology isn’t one I can raise up too much guilt over.)
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Virginia Plain Wed, May 12, 2010 11:21:42am |
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Spare O'Lake Wed, May 12, 2010 11:22:02am |
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prairiefire Wed, May 12, 2010 11:22:13am |
re: #48 MandyManners
Wasn’t there speculation that Pres. Bush and Miers had had an affair?
I’ve never read that.
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Virginia Plain Wed, May 12, 2010 11:22:23am |
Saying they really, really love their woman.
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MandyManners Wed, May 12, 2010 11:22:24am |
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MandyManners Wed, May 12, 2010 11:22:45am |
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Kragar Wed, May 12, 2010 11:23:08am |
re: #99 DaddyG
Your Thetans are showing.
(Being a Mormon I know I’m throwing stones in glass houses by making fun of the weird aspects of someones religion, but for some reason Scientology isn’t one I can raise up too much guilt over.)
I’m agnostic, so I keep a bag of stones with me at all times.
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MandyManners Wed, May 12, 2010 11:23:09am |
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cliffster Wed, May 12, 2010 11:23:14am |
re: #99 DaddyG
Your Thetans are showing.
(Being a Mormon I know I’m throwing stones in glass houses by making fun of the weird aspects of someones religion, but for some reason Scientology isn’t one I can raise up too much guilt over.)
Scientology is not a religion.
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 11:23:19am |
re: #92 darthstar
Things not to say on a phone interview #327: “I like to take a look every five or six months to see what opportunities are out there”
I kid you not, one of my friends worked for an IT firm in the same building as a law office. While inviting a prospective employee for an interview the guy volunteers, “I know exactly where your office is, in the same building as the lawyer I hired to sue my last employer.”
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Virginia Plain Wed, May 12, 2010 11:23:34am |
Scientology is a very evil corporation.
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Virginia Plain Wed, May 12, 2010 11:24:55am |
Alright, exam time. And then end-of-the-semester party to celebrate the end of one more semester in nursing school.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 12, 2010 11:25:12am |
re: #86 DaddyG
I may cheese off a few Scientology fans here, but anti-gay conversion therapy seems to rank right up there with paying for enlightenment as measured by an e-meter.
Wow.
I once read a wonderful article by a young gay man who let himself be put through a de-gayifying program.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 12, 2010 11:26:32am |
re: #99 DaddyG
Your Thetans are showing.
(Being a Mormon I know I’m throwing stones in glass houses by making fun of the weird aspects of someones religion, but for some reason Scientology isn’t one I can raise up too much guilt over.)
When you start advertising the Book of Mormon on TV with a volcano blowing up behind it, THEN I’ll tell you that you can’t make fun.
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SpaceJesus Wed, May 12, 2010 11:26:53am |
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Kragar Wed, May 12, 2010 11:27:12am |
re: #115 SpaceJesus
Laura Bush is pro-gay marriage and pro-choice on Larry King. Badass.
[Video]
RINO!
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darthstar Wed, May 12, 2010 11:28:02am |
re: #3 darthstar
Obama’s Katrina
Obama’s Harriet
What’s next? Obama’s DUI?
Okay…just watched the video…didn’t realize there were that many Bush fuckups that the GOP remembered and now attribute to Obama…and I thought they liked Bush when he was President.
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SpaceJesus Wed, May 12, 2010 11:29:00am |
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darthstar Wed, May 12, 2010 11:29:07am |
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Four More Tears Wed, May 12, 2010 11:29:28am |
re: #118 SpaceJesus
clearly, she hates god and christians
What’s her position on space-Christians, though?
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Kragar Wed, May 12, 2010 11:30:14am |
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SpaceJesus Wed, May 12, 2010 11:30:29am |
re: #120 JasonA
she is one of us. laura bush for space pope.
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Kragar Wed, May 12, 2010 11:30:33am |
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darthstar Wed, May 12, 2010 11:31:18am |
re: #115 SpaceJesus
Laura Bush is pro-gay marriage and pro-choice on Larry King. Badass.
She was always Pro-choice until Bush ran for Governor of Texas…glad she’s returned to that. And it is refreshing that she believes in the sanctity of marriage - for everyone.
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Renaissance_Man Wed, May 12, 2010 11:31:38am |
re: #117 darthstar
Okay…just watched the video…didn’t realize there were that many Bush fuckups that the GOP remembered and now attribute to Obama…and I thought they liked Bush when he was President.
They did. They liked him because he wasn’t a Democrat, and because Democrats opposed him. In their minds, the position is consistent, because everything that was wrong with his Administration was the fault of Democrats in Congress, or because of his own policies that were too liberal. It still reduces down to the same position: all things Democrat/liberal = bad.
When you adopt this simple premise, the modern Conservative worldview is amazingly consistent.
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Spare O'Lake Wed, May 12, 2010 11:31:50am |
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Spare O'Lake Wed, May 12, 2010 11:33:03am |
re: #119 darthstar
The subway has never been quite the same.
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 11:33:46am |
re: #113 SanFranciscoZionist
I once read a wonderful article by a young gay man who let himself be put through a de-gayifying program.
I just can’t see someone denying something that fundamental about themselves - learned or genetic. Regardless of your views on homosexuality as approved/not approved by your faith coercive measures like these “therapy” sessions are not right.
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darthstar Wed, May 12, 2010 11:33:51am |
re: #76 EmmmieG
I still want to know about the wife who was willing to let her husband take an extensive European vacation alone.
Well, you can’t expect her to carry his bags. That’s why there’s rentboy.com.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, May 12, 2010 11:34:35am |
re: #129 darthstar
Well, you can’t expect her to carry his bags. That’s why there’s rentboy.com.
Because porters don’t give massages, I suppose.
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webevintage Wed, May 12, 2010 11:36:14am |
Is Rand Paul a Libertarian or a Republican?
Libertarian Republican?
Not sure what that animal looks like….
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Spare O'Lake Wed, May 12, 2010 11:36:17am |
re: #128 DaddyG
I just can’t see someone denying something that fundamental about themselves - learned or genetic. Regardless of your views on homosexuality as approved/not approved by your faith coercive measures like these “therapy” sessions are not right.
If those programs really worked don’t you think they’d be swamped?
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Nimed Wed, May 12, 2010 11:36:27am |
re: #115 SpaceJesus
Laura Bush is pro-gay marriage and pro-choice on Larry King. Badass.
[Video]
Sigh. I’m convinced Bush would’ve made a satisfactory First Lady.
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iossarian Wed, May 12, 2010 11:39:17am |
re: #130 EmmmieG
Because porters don’t give massages, I suppose.
For the last time! Porters don’t need converting to Christianity! Rent boys do!
How hard is it to understand this???
/not really necessary
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Kragar Wed, May 12, 2010 11:39:26am |
re: #130 EmmmieG
Because porters don’t give massages, I suppose.
Well, at least not with happy endings.
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 11:41:16am |
re: #132 Spare O’Lake
If those programs really worked don’t you think they’d be swamped?
Yes I do. There are a lot of people who are in serious pain with the fact that their “thorns of the flesh” don’t align with their religious beliefs.
I wrestled with a lot of things to align my life more fully with my beliefs but none of them were as fundamentally a part of my life as my feelings of intimacy. I cannot imagine the struggle, but if it happens to one of my children I will not make their life harder by suggesting coercive therapies, shunning them, denying affection or any other (IMO) quite un-Christian practice.
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 11:41:36am |
BBL- called to a meeting. Sorry to go deep on a topic then run.
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Guanxi88 Wed, May 12, 2010 11:41:58am |
It’s a funny thing - I’m sure I wouldn’t agree with Kagan on a broad range of topics, but because she looks an awful like my “snakes-in-her-head” favorite aunt (no, she really does!) I find myself somehow fond of her.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 12, 2010 11:42:21am |
re: #128 DaddyG
I just can’t see someone denying something that fundamental about themselves - learned or genetic. Regardless of your views on homosexuality as approved/not approved by your faith coercive measures like these “therapy” sessions are not right.
Very much agree.
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MandyManners Wed, May 12, 2010 11:42:37am |
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 12, 2010 11:43:54am |
re: #138 Guanxi88
It’s a funny thing - I’m sure I wouldn’t agree with Kagan on a broad range of topics, but because she looks an awful like my “snakes-in-her-head” favorite aunt (no, she really does!) I find myself somehow fond of her.
I love Sotomayor because she sounds just like my grandmother and great-aunts. Same accent.
And Alouette appears to have bonded with Kagan because she is a ‘jumbo shrimp’.
These things do make a difference.
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MrSilverDragon Wed, May 12, 2010 11:44:11am |
Off topic question that’s been bouncing around my brain today: Do people think that orange roughy would sell as well if people knew that it was actually a slimehead?
OK, back to work for me.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, May 12, 2010 11:45:05am |
re: #142 MrSilverDragon
Off topic question that’s been bouncing around my brain today: Do people think that orange roughy would sell as well if people knew that it was actually a slimehead?
OK, back to work for me.
???It’s a fraudulent fish? What, does it have fake papers?
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Crimsonfisted Wed, May 12, 2010 11:46:03am |
re: #33 DaddyG
I agree- I just said it wrong.
Here is that really cool site that makes my head hurt…
Great!! Thanks!
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darthstar Wed, May 12, 2010 11:47:23am |
re: #45 JasonA
I’m looking forward to the cries of Limbaugh’s minions (Boehner, Cantor, McConnell, Palin) for the president to apologize to the drug-addict fucktard.
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Guanxi88 Wed, May 12, 2010 11:47:30am |
re: #141 SanFranciscoZionist
I love Sotomayor because she sounds just like my grandmother and great-aunts. Same accent.
And Alouette appears to have bonded with Kagan because she is a ‘jumbo shrimp’.
These things do make a difference.
Soon as I heard she didn’t start driving till later in life, I knew she’d be one of my favorites, irrespective of ideology or politics.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 12, 2010 11:50:42am |
re: #145 darthstar
I’m looking forward to the cries of Limbaugh’s minions (Boehner, Cantor, McConnell, Palin) for the president to apologize to the drug-addict fucktard.
They can whistle for it. Limbaugh is not someone Obama needs to show any flicker of respect to.
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Four More Tears Wed, May 12, 2010 11:50:44am |
re: #145 darthstar
I’m looking forward to the cries of Limbaugh’s minions (Boehner, Cantor, McConnell, Palin) for the president to apologize to the drug-addict fucktard.
I’m sure that’ll happen once someone explains the joke to them.
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Spare O'Lake Wed, May 12, 2010 11:50:44am |
re: #139 SanFranciscoZionist
Very much agree.
Me too, coercion is horrible, and these techniques don’t even work.
But just imagine if one could snap one’s fingers and magically transform oneself…that might be a horse of a different colour, might it not?
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webevintage Wed, May 12, 2010 11:50:47am |
Annoying neighbor alert:
He has been blowing his fucking leaves around since 8:30 am (I sleep till about 9 or 10 and he has issues with leaves) and now is burning them.
On a nice windy day.
At least he is wearing his shirt this time.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, May 12, 2010 11:51:32am |
re: #150 webevintage
Annoying neighbor alert:
He has been blowing his fucking leaves around since 8:30 am (I sleep till about 9 or 10 and he has issues with leaves) and now is burning them.
On a nice windy day.At least he is wearing his shirt this time.
I thought it was illegal in most urban areas to burn leaves.
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Four More Tears Wed, May 12, 2010 11:51:38am |
re: #150 webevintage
Annoying neighbor alert:
He has been blowing his fucking leaves around since 8:30 am (I sleep till about 9 or 10 and he has issues with leaves) and now is burning them.
On a nice windy day.At least he is wearing his shirt this time.
Oh. But it was so warm out the other day…
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Guanxi88 Wed, May 12, 2010 11:52:18am |
re: #142 MrSilverDragon
Off topic question that’s been bouncing around my brain today: Do people think that orange roughy would sell as well if people knew that it was actually a slimehead?
OK, back to work for me.
“Chilean sea bass” is another one; it’s a patagonian toothfish, but who’d eat it if it were called that?
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webevintage Wed, May 12, 2010 11:53:44am |
re: #151 Alouette
I thought it was illegal in most urban areas to burn leaves.
We live in the South, in the county, no laws about burning.
We can even shoot off fireworks whenever we want and let our dogs run free to get run over if we want.
Not really “country” but not suburban.
Close enough that he can burn my shit down….
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dugmartsch Wed, May 12, 2010 11:54:13am |
re: #14 DaddyG
My favorite comments today in the local paper’s blog were “I just can’t support someone for the Supreme court who doesn’t seem to be family oriented…” I reminded them that David Souter was a 71 year old confirmed bachelor and I don’t recall him legislating from the bench in order to harm children or families.
Gaaah - teh stupid, it hurts.
That’s why I’m glad that “regular folks” are insulated from making these kinds of decisions. Your preference for their lifestyle has no bearing on the quality of their legal reasoning.
Could you imagine if the supreme court were elected every six years?
It’d be like the dude who knows nothing about football who makes his decisions for the weekly football pool based on who has the cooler uniforms.
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dugmartsch Wed, May 12, 2010 11:56:22am |
re: #114 SanFranciscoZionist
When you start advertising the Book of Mormon on TV with a volcano blowing up behind it, THEN I’ll tell you that you can’t make fun.
Those LDS commercials in the mid-late 80’s were always kind of weird.
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webevintage Wed, May 12, 2010 11:56:24am |
re: #145 darthstar
I’m looking forward to the cries of Limbaugh’s minions (Boehner, Cantor, McConnell, Palin) for the president to apologize to the drug-addict fucktard.
Great.
I guess this will be the #1 question the brain trusts in the WH Press Corps will ask today.
Besides whining about how they can’t interview Kagan (when have SC nominees ever sat down for interviews) and questions about “how gay is she and how much does she hate the troops?”.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 12, 2010 11:56:32am |
re: #149 Spare O’Lake
Me too, coercion is horrible, and these techniques don’t even work.
But just imagine if one could snap one’s fingers and magically transform oneself…that might be a horse of a different colour, might it not?
For some people, I’m sure it would, but we ain’t got that…
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HappyWarrior Wed, May 12, 2010 11:58:11am |
Why would anyone want to go golfing with Limbaugh? He’s a professional jerk.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 12, 2010 11:58:20am |
Late to the game, but…
I saw this linked in the last thread. This bit:
Could it be that mankind DID walk with dinosaurs? Because, after all, if dinosaurs really were extinct 68 million years before man, how is it that recent archeological excavations have discovered soft tissue inside dinosaur bones?
… reminded me of this:
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 12, 2010 11:58:34am |
re: #157 webevintage
Great.
I guess this will be the #1 question the brain trusts in the WH Press Corps will ask today.
Besides whining about how they can’t interview Kagan (when have SC nominees ever sat down for interviews) and questions about “how gay is she and how much does she hate the troops?”.
She’s totally gay, and she hates the troops with a simmering, seething hatred. All of ‘em. And their husbands and wives, and their children, and their dogs, even the gay ones.
Now, since that has no bearing on whether or not the president gets to put her on the Supreme Court, any other questions?
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Guanxi88 Wed, May 12, 2010 11:58:42am |
re: #156 dugmartsch
Those LDS commercials in the mid-late 80’s were always kind of weird.
The musical ones? With the broken window?
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darthstar Wed, May 12, 2010 11:58:51am |
Hm…at 5000 barrels a day, which would produce roughly 23 gallons of gas per barrel (plus jet fuel, lubricants, etc.) the Gulf spill could fuel my Smart car for about 210,000 miles…every day…and I could change my oil with every tank.
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 12:00:07pm |
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wrenchwench Wed, May 12, 2010 12:00:50pm |
She’s 5’3”? I thought they said she was short.
On a more serious note, CNN is still using Bay Buchanan? Ew2.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 12, 2010 12:01:24pm |
re: #165 wrenchwench
She’s 5’3”? I thought they said she was short.
On a more serious note, CNN is still using Bay Buchanan? Ew2.
I think she looks shorter than she is, surrounded by tall men.
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 12:01:50pm |
re: #150 webevintage
Annoying neighbor alert:
He has been blowing his fucking leaves around since 8:30 am (I sleep till about 9 or 10 and he has issues with leaves) and now is burning them.
On a nice windy day.
At least he is wearing his shirt this time.
I had a neighbor use gasoline on his leaves when he didn’t have any diesel handy. It was the most exquisite mushroom cloud of flaming debris I’ve ever witnessed. The fire department came from a mile away before they even got a call.
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brookly red Wed, May 12, 2010 12:02:27pm |
re: #150 webevintage
Annoying neighbor alert:
He has been blowing his fucking leaves around since 8:30 am (I sleep till about 9 or 10 and he has issues with leaves) and now is burning them.
On a nice windy day.At least he is wearing his shirt this time.
a plaid one no doubt…
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wrenchwench Wed, May 12, 2010 12:03:05pm |
re: #166 SanFranciscoZionist
I think she looks shorter than she is, surrounded by tall men.
Yeah, I wouldn’t know about that. I’m five three and three quarters.
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tradewind Wed, May 12, 2010 12:03:27pm |
re: #153 Guanxi88
That’s why I can’t ever order anything branded ‘Tilapia’…. my youngest kept a tank of cichlids, and that’s what tilapia is. I keep seeing ‘em flop out of his tank onto the floor. Used to really bug me……
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webevintage Wed, May 12, 2010 12:03:43pm |
re: #165 wrenchwench
On a more serious note, CNN is still using Bay Buchanan? Ew2.
Ewwww
Indeed.
and I’ll add an ugh.
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Guanxi88 Wed, May 12, 2010 12:03:43pm |
re: #168 brookly red
a plaid one no doubt…
I’m betting sleeves cut off gimme t-shirt, or maybe a gimme tank-top; either way, advertising one of the three things regulated by ATF.
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Killgore Trout Wed, May 12, 2010 12:03:51pm |
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Guanxi88 Wed, May 12, 2010 12:04:48pm |
re: #173 Killgore Trout
Transocean To Workers After Rig Explosion: Sign The Waiver Here, Please! (VIDEO)
Better late than never, I suppose. Heck of legal team they’ve got.
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webevintage Wed, May 12, 2010 12:05:08pm |
re: #172 Guanxi88
I’m betting sleeves cut off gimme t-shirt, or maybe a gimme tank-top; either way, advertising one of the three things regulated by ATF.
ding ding ding
we have a winner.
(I was also informed that the people he works with say he is nuts and talks about guns all the time…BUT he has always been nice to me so what are ya gonna do?)
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tradewind Wed, May 12, 2010 12:05:18pm |
re: #173 Killgore Trout
BP tried it first, and the AG already jumped ugly with them for it. Hopefully the word has gotten around.
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MandyManners Wed, May 12, 2010 12:05:50pm |
re: #172 Guanxi88
I’m betting sleeves cut off gimme t-shirt, or maybe a gimme tank-top; either way, advertising one of the three things regulated by ATF.
Wife-beater.
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 12:05:56pm |
re: #156 dugmartsch
Those LDS commercials in the mid-late 80’s were always kind of weird.
Syrupy - but I must have liked them on some level. That’s when I joined up. Funny thing is my single biggest ongoing gripe is the Pollyanna member (aka Peter Priesthood and Molly Mormon). Some people have a difficult time distinguishing between doctrine, practice and image. I don’t care much for image. Neither do my kids. That makes for some interesting conflicts with the image obsessed.
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tradewind Wed, May 12, 2010 12:06:50pm |
re: #150 webevintage
There should be a noise ordinance about that before a civilized hour. Maybe there is…..bluff him with it.
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tradewind Wed, May 12, 2010 12:09:38pm |
re: #159 HappyWarrior
Why would anyone want to go golfing with Limbaugh?
Two reasons. Either they want to play at a course they wouldn’t ordinarily get to set foot on, ( wouldn’t apply to POTUS) or… to take his money.
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Guanxi88 Wed, May 12, 2010 12:10:00pm |
re: #179 tradewind
There should be a noise ordinance about that before a civilized hour. Maybe there is…bluff him with it.
In a civilized society, leaf-blowers and suchlike would be banned from operation within 100 feet of an occupied building or place of business. Noisiest damned things.
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 12:10:56pm |
re: #173 Killgore Trout
Transocean To Workers After Rig Explosion: Sign The Waiver Here, Please! (VIDEO)
Wow!
You know that old joke about 10,000 lawyers at the bottom of the sea being a good start… I’m starting to see a practical application. //
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brookly red Wed, May 12, 2010 12:12:06pm |
re: #183 DaddyG
Wow!
You know that old joke about 10,000 lawyers at the bottom of the sea being a good start… I’m starting to see a practical application. //
/we are trying clean up the water not make it worse…
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 12:12:22pm |
re: #182 freetoken
Leaf blowers should be banned, period.
We were just discussing tolereance and you want to ban arborsexuality? //
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garhighway Wed, May 12, 2010 12:12:28pm |
re: #136 DaddyG
Yes I do. There are a lot of people who are in serious pain with the fact that their “thorns of the flesh” don’t align with their religious beliefs.
I wrestled with a lot of things to align my life more fully with my beliefs but none of them were as fundamentally a part of my life as my feelings of intimacy. I cannot imagine the struggle, but if it happens to one of my children I will not make their life harder by suggesting coercive therapies, shunning them, denying affection or any other (IMO) quite un-Christian practice.
It’s worse than them not being aligned with their religion. Just think about how much harder a person’s life must be if they are gay. All the extra crap they have to take in every aspect of their lives: physical danger from homophobes, discrimination at work and in housing, alienation from their families and former friends, it goes on and on. Who would freely choose such a life?
I am darkly amused at those that think that sexual orientation is a choice. I don’t recall choosing to be straight. People are who they are. Inflicting a lifetime of small and large punishments on people for something that was entirely beyond their control is just wrong, and those that would seek to continue that wrong for political gain are evil motherfuckers.
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sagehen Wed, May 12, 2010 12:13:00pm |
re: #166 SanFranciscoZionist
I think she looks shorter than she is, surrounded by tall men.
And she’s sort of wide….
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tradewind Wed, May 12, 2010 12:14:10pm |
re: #181 Guanxi88
I hate ‘em. I own one, but when the guy who helps me with my yard to starts it up, I always manage to irritate him with the question ’ aww, come on, couldn’t you do that just as easily/ more quickly with a rake ‘? Because nine times out of ten, the answer would be ‘yes ‘.
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Cato the Elder Wed, May 12, 2010 12:14:26pm |
The Perils of Grammar, Episode 17:
Facebook has this to say today:
“Check out OnGuardOnline.gov, which provides practical tips to help you avoid fraud, secure your computer, and protect your personal information from the federal government and the technology industry.”
LOL. I believe they meant to say “…practical tips from the federal government and the technology industry to help you avoid…” etc.
I just offered them my services as a professional editor.
Though come to think of it, protecting my personal information from the Feds and Bill Gates does sound rather appealing.
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garhighway Wed, May 12, 2010 12:15:19pm |
re: #176 tradewind
BP tried it first, and the AG already jumped ugly with them for it. Hopefully the word has gotten around.
In watching the hearings yesterday, it seemed to me like the answer (from the companies) was that it wasn’t a waiver, it was an information-gathering exercise. That may or may not be true, but it would be easy enough to resolve the question: just get a copy of the “waiver” for us to read and we can see what it says.
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MandyManners Wed, May 12, 2010 12:15:22pm |
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, May 12, 2010 12:15:57pm |
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darthstar Wed, May 12, 2010 12:16:47pm |
re: #189 Cato the Elder
The Perils of Grammar, Episode 17:
Facebook has this to say today:
“Check out OnGuardOnline.gov, which provides practical tips to help you avoid fraud, secure your computer, and protect your personal information from the federal government and the technology industry.”
Facebook is run by Ron Paul?
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Kragar Wed, May 12, 2010 12:17:04pm |
re: #189 Cato the Elder
The Perils of Grammar, Episode 17:
Facebook has this to say today:
“Check out OnGuardOnline.gov, which provides practical tips to help you avoid fraud, secure your computer, and protect your personal information from the federal government and the technology industry.”
LOL. I believe they meant to say “…practical tips from the federal government and the technology industry to help you avoid…” etc.
I just offered them my services as a professional editor.
Though come to think of it, protecting my personal information from the Feds and Bill Gates does sound rather appealing.
How to prevent your private personal information from falling into the wrong hands by Kragar.
1) Don’t input it into social networking sites like Facebook
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HoosierHoops Wed, May 12, 2010 12:17:16pm |
re: #159 HappyWarrior
Why would anyone want to go golfing with Limbaugh? He’s a professional jerk.
I’d golf with Rush and I can’t stand him..
/He’d get me on Tiger’s home course
//Hold up Hoopster I don’t think Rush is down course far enough
///Why do you think I’m swinging?
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tradewind Wed, May 12, 2010 12:19:02pm |
re: #191 garhighway
Every one of the attorneys for the corporations involved will try to obtain waivers from potential litigants, and that’s their job ,since they have a fiduciary duty to their stockholders. It still isn’t a good thing, IMO. I hope they don’t get any signatures until the potential plaintiffs have a chance to meet with attorneys of their own. Anyway, this early on, the damages can’t exactly be known. No one should sign anything yet.
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sagehen Wed, May 12, 2010 12:19:39pm |
re: #189 Cato the Elder
The Perils of Grammar, Episode 17:
Facebook has this to say today:
“Check out OnGuardOnline.gov, which provides practical tips to help you avoid fraud, secure your computer, and protect your personal information from the federal government and the technology industry.”
LOL. I believe they meant to say “…practical tips from the federal government and the technology industry to help you avoid…” etc.
I just offered them my services as a professional editor.
Though come to think of it, protecting my personal information from the Feds and Bill Gates does sound rather appealing.
Eats, Shoots & Leaves: Why, Commas Really Do Make a Difference!
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Guanxi88 Wed, May 12, 2010 12:21:06pm |
re: #196 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
How to prevent your private personal information from falling into the wrong hands by Kragar.
1) Don’t input it into social networking sites like Facebook
2) Never say anything over the telephone you don’t want read back to you in court
3) never send an email you don’t want to appear in an indictment or an affidavit.
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darthstar Wed, May 12, 2010 12:21:51pm |
re: #199 sagehen
Eats, Shoots & Leaves: Why, Commas Really Do Make a Difference!
A friend of mine who now teaches at a university had a comma splice in her master’s thesis. For her graduation, we got her a t-shirt that read:
COMMA, SPLICE
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Four More Tears Wed, May 12, 2010 12:22:36pm |
re: #200 Guanxi88
2) Never say anything over the telephone you don’t want read back to you in court
“I’ve got this thing and it’s fucking golden, and, uh, uh, I’m just not giving it up for fuckin’ nothing. I’m not gonna do it. And, and I can always use it. I can parachute me there.” heehee
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brookly red Wed, May 12, 2010 12:22:57pm |
re: #200 Guanxi88
2) Never say anything over the telephone you don’t want read back to you in court
3) never send an email you don’t want to appear in an indictment or an affidavit.
same thing about posting…
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Kragar Wed, May 12, 2010 12:23:00pm |
re: #200 Guanxi88
2) Never say anything over the telephone you don’t want read back to you in court
3) never send an email you don’t want to appear in an indictment or an affidavit.
4) Pics or it didn’t happen
5) Tits or GTFO
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tradewind Wed, May 12, 2010 12:23:06pm |
re: #196 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
The NYT actually had quite a good article a few months ago about changing settings on Facebook to reflect the changes the site has made. Everyone should read it.
[Link: www.nytimes.com…]
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HoosierHoops Wed, May 12, 2010 12:23:15pm |
re: #200 Guanxi88
2) Never say anything over the telephone you don’t want read back to you in court
3) never send an email you don’t want to appear in an indictment or an affidavit.
When in Jail never tell your cell-mate, ’ Yea I killed him and I’d do it again.’
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garhighway Wed, May 12, 2010 12:24:11pm |
re: #198 tradewind
Every one of the attorneys for the corporations involved will try to obtain waivers from potential litigants, and that’s their job ,since they have a fiduciary duty to their stockholders. It still isn’t a good thing, IMO. I hope they don’t get any signatures until the potential plaintiffs have a chance to meet with attorneys of their own. Anyway, this early on, the damages can’t exactly be known. No one should sign anything yet.
But normally you get a waiver in exchange for something: you trade money for the waiver (aka a release). In that respect, waivers are absolutely fair and normal. (Athough your advise regarding legal counsel is well taken in that situation.) However, just closeting a bunch of workers in a room and demanding waivers in exchange for nothing is bad behavior, and I think that is what BP/Transocean are being accused of. But as I said before, that seems to me both factually unlikely and a controversy that’s easily resolved by looking at whatever it was BP/Transocean asked people to sign.
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tradewind Wed, May 12, 2010 12:24:20pm |
re: #199 sagehen
I love that book, and give it to seniors for graduation presents.
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Kragar Wed, May 12, 2010 12:24:34pm |
re: #205 tradewind
The NYT actually had quite a good article a few months ago about changing settings on Facebook to reflect the changes the site has made. Everyone should read it.
[Link: www.nytimes.com…]
I went with the whole “Never sign up for fucking Facebook” option and my security settings have been working just fine the whole time.
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brookly red Wed, May 12, 2010 12:24:58pm |
re: #206 HoosierHoops
When in Jail never tell your cell-mate, ’ Yea I killed him and I’d do it again.’
never bring a camcorder to a motel…
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Cato the Elder Wed, May 12, 2010 12:25:21pm |
re: #208 tradewind
I love that book, and give it to seniors for graduation presents.
They can graduate without knowing what is says already?
We’re doomed.
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 12:25:26pm |
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freetoken Wed, May 12, 2010 12:25:34pm |
re: #189 Cato the Elder
Though come to think of it, protecting my personal information from the Feds …
Hey, did you hear that Obama want’s to track your money?
Will Nickel-Free Nickels Make a Dime’s Worth of Difference?
The government isn’t saying which new materials it might use in coins. Most coin experts say creating non-metal coins would go over like a wooden nickel. Still, industrial porcelain, embedded with an identification chip, is seen as an outside possibility.
BUY GOLD!! (without embedded chips!!)
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webevintage Wed, May 12, 2010 12:26:05pm |
re: #196 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
How to prevent your private personal information from falling into the wrong hands by Kragar.
1) Don’t input it into social networking sites like Facebook
3) If you are well known don’t use your zip code as a password and don’t put the name of the town you met your husband in as your challenge question.
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brookly red Wed, May 12, 2010 12:27:11pm |
re: #212 sattv4u2
never refer to anything a “being da bomb” at the airport…
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 12:27:50pm |
re: #211 Cato the Elder
They can graduate without knowing what is says already?
We’re doomed.
Too late
Go to your local high school with a world map. Ask 10 kids to ID various countries/ states
{sigh}
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tradewind Wed, May 12, 2010 12:28:24pm |
re: #211 Cato the Elder
It’s a great read, and unfortunately, re your point, the answer is too often ’ yes ‘.
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HoosierHoops Wed, May 12, 2010 12:28:44pm |
re: #216 brookly red
never refer to anything a “being da bomb” at the airport…
If the Hooker looks way too good and charging way too little…Keep walking..It’s a cop.
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Kragar Wed, May 12, 2010 12:28:49pm |
re: #214 webevintage
3) If you are well known don’t use your zip code as a password and don’t put the name of the town you met your husband in as your challenge question.
When posting personals for explicit adult relationships, do not use your work email adress which includes your real name
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 12:29:34pm |
re: #188 tradewind
I hate ‘em. I own one, but when the guy who helps me with my yard to starts it up, I always manage to irritate him with the question ’ aww, come on, couldn’t you do that just as easily/ more quickly with a rake ‘? Because nine times out of ten, the answer would be ‘yes ‘.
Yeah, but nothing cleans out the dryer vent like a leaf blower and some duct tape. Thats all I use mine for anymore.
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Killgore Trout Wed, May 12, 2010 12:29:57pm |
Bad news for wingnuts: U.S. stocks climb as focus turns to domestic recovery
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 12:30:35pm |
re: #220 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
When posting personals for explicit adult relationships, do not use your work email adress which includes your real name
If you’re a golf pro and are having dozens of affairs, NEVER bring the cell phone you’ve given your girlfriends the number too in the house where YOU’RE WIFE IS!
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tradewind Wed, May 12, 2010 12:31:15pm |
re: #217 sattv4u2
Even worse: ask them to name just one of their state’s US senators or representatives. If they can’t, backpedal a little and ask them to name the current vice president.
(Then, head straight to the nearest watering hole and have a shot to steady your nerves).
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brookly red Wed, May 12, 2010 12:31:15pm |
re: #222 Killgore Trout
Bad news for wingnuts: U.S. stocks climb as focus turns to domestic recovery
wing nuts don’t have IRAs?
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 12:32:28pm |
re: #200 Guanxi88
2) Never say anything over the telephone you don’t want read back to you in court
3) never send an email you don’t want to appear in an indictment or an affidavit.
I deal with open records law all the time. It gets really intersting when documenting hiring interviews.
My neighbors can also look up my salary and travel expenses.
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tradewind Wed, May 12, 2010 12:32:49pm |
re: #222 Killgore Trout
You really want to do that?
They were celebrating the week before the megaplunge too.
Besides, what was going to happen when they hit that low?
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Killgore Trout Wed, May 12, 2010 12:33:14pm |
re: #221 DaddyG
I had a neighbor a few years ago who was obsessed with his leaf blower. 3-4 times a week he’d blow his entire lawn, mow, blow again, edge, blow, trim trees and bushes, blow again. I’m not exaggerating, the whole process would go on for hours. Even in the winter he’d be out in the dark while it’s raining. It was really annoying.
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 12:33:25pm |
re: #220 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
When posting personals for explicit adult relationships, do not use your work email adress which includes your real name
Governor Sanford is that you?
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Cato the Elder Wed, May 12, 2010 12:33:26pm |
re: #4 JasonA
The whole ascot thing Monday and last Thursday night was hysterical.
What is the “ascot thing”?
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 12:33:33pm |
re: #222 Killgore Trout
Bad news for wingnuts: U.S. stocks climb as focus turns to domestic recovery
Bad news for MoonBats
U.S. posts 19th straight monthly budget deficit
It was more than twice the $40-billion deficit that Wall Street economists surveyed by Reuters had forecast and was striking since April marks the filing deadline for individual income taxes that are the main source of government revenue.
Department officials said that in prior years, there was a surplus during April in 43 out of the past 56 years.
The government has now posted 19 consecutive monthly budget deficits, the longest string of shortfalls on record.
[Link: www.reuters.com…]
CHANGE!!
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tradewind Wed, May 12, 2010 12:33:39pm |
re: #225 brookly red
I believe the implication is that we’d rather see the market tank and blame Obama than fatten our portfolios.
/not so much./
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 12:34:18pm |
re: #228 Killgore Trout
I had a neighbor a few years ago who was obsessed with his leaf blower. 3-4 times a week he’d blow his entire lawn, mow, blow again, edge, blow, trim trees and bushes, blow again. I’m not exaggerating, the whole process would go on for hours. Even in the winter he’d be out in the dark while it’s raining. It was really annoying.
“I’ve never seen a man so hard up for a blow job in my entire life.” -Good Morning Vietnam
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Bubblehead II Wed, May 12, 2010 12:35:14pm |
re: #206 HoosierHoops
When in Jail never tell your cell-mate, ’ Yea I killed him and I’d do it again.’
When in Jail, never instruct your Nephew to engage in Unemployment fraud while using the jails payphone.
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Killgore Trout Wed, May 12, 2010 12:36:02pm |
re: #231 sattv4u2
Bad news for MoonBats
U.S. posts 19th straight monthly budget deficit
It was more than twice the $40-billion deficit that Wall Street economists surveyed by Reuters had forecast and was striking since April marks the filing deadline for individual income taxes that are the main source of government revenue.Department officials said that in prior years, there was a surplus during April in 43 out of the past 56 years.
The government has now posted 19 consecutive monthly budget deficits, the longest string of shortfalls on record.
[Link: www.reuters.com…]CHANGE!!
There’s not really much that can be done about the deficit at this point. Our choices were to run a huge deficit or let the economy collapse. We would have been the only country on earth to choose collapse.
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Cato the Elder Wed, May 12, 2010 12:36:32pm |
re: #213 freetoken
BUY GOLD!! (without embedded chips!!)
I’ve said for years we ought to get rid of the penny. Round up or down and get shut of the stupid, useless, worthless thing.
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tradewind Wed, May 12, 2010 12:36:33pm |
re: #209 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Don’t pat yourself on the back just yet….. friends of yours can have your stuff all over their facebook wall and poof…. there you go.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, May 12, 2010 12:36:53pm |
re: #210 brookly red
Never trust a man in a blue trench coat / Never drive a car when you’re dead
-Tom Waits
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 12:37:02pm |
On Leaf Blowers
I use mine on the paved driveway after I’ve mowed (grass shavings blown there from the lawn on both sides of the driveway)
Also use it to blow the pollen off of the front porch and back deck a few times a week during the spring/ early summer
And also to clean all the grass shavings off of the riding mower blade housing before I put the mower back in the shed
Fascinating, no !??!
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HoosierHoops Wed, May 12, 2010 12:37:13pm |
re: #234 Bubblehead II
When in Jail, never instruct your Nephew to engage in Unemployment fraud while using the jails payphone.
But..But..He was unemployed..He was in Jail..
/
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garhighway Wed, May 12, 2010 12:37:23pm |
re: #232 tradewind
I believe the implication is that we’d rather see the market tank and blame Obama than fatten our portfolios.
/not so much./
Sort of like the whole “I want America to fail” meme. Real people don’t think like that.
Do they?
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 12:38:00pm |
re: #231 sattv4u2
Lots more refunds due to loss of income. Georgia got hit last month too. We’re struggling to keep our budgets afloat. The good news is that we’re seeming to level off and business revenues are continuing to rise. That may be a leading indicator of better employment ahead.
AFAIC rising stocks and rising revenues are both good news no matter what position you take on the wraparound political scale.
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 12:38:01pm |
re: #235 Killgore Trout
There’s not really much that can be done about the deficit at this point. Our choices were to run a huge deficit or let the economy collapse. We would have been the only country on earth to choose collapse.
Incorrect again. As mentioned before TARP was needed
Stimulus and ramming health care reform through at this time,,, not so much!
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brookly red Wed, May 12, 2010 12:38:15pm |
re: #236 Cato the Elder
I’ve said for years we ought to get rid of the penny. Round up or down and get shut of the stupid, useless, worthless thing.
they are not worthless… put a coupla fist fulls into a sweat sox & they can be quite handy.
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darthstar Wed, May 12, 2010 12:38:23pm |
Rant on:
So my wife’s Macbook Air has a bad hinge on it…the damn thing cracked a few months ago, so the screen doesn’t stay up, it just flops all the way over. A buddy of mine happens to be in upper management of Apple’s Customer Care. He told me that the hinge issue was a known defect and that they’d fix it for free if we mailed the computer in to them…so I did. They call yesterday to say that there’s 750 dollars in additional repairs that are required (they won’t just fix the hinge). My wife tells them that we only want the defective hinge fixed. They then say that, because they found additional ‘accidental damage’ that the computer is not covered under the warranty.
This morning, they call us again - at 6:00 in the morning - to say there’s 950 dollars in damage (I spoke later and it’s still at 750), but they’re saying they won’t fix the defective hinge because of the ‘accidental damage’ and would we please pay 750 dollars. Oh, and we have five days to comply or they just send us back the broken machine.
Assholes.
/rant off
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tradewind Wed, May 12, 2010 12:38:27pm |
re: #228 Killgore Trout
He liked to do it while it was raining?
Slip into his garage and substitute an electric one while he’s not looking…..
/just kidding just kidding/ just kidding/
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wrenchwench Wed, May 12, 2010 12:38:34pm |
Who needs a leaf blower? We had 50 mph winds this week.
/What leaves?
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brookly red Wed, May 12, 2010 12:39:09pm |
re: #238 Mad Al-Jaffee
Never trust a man in a blue trench coat / Never drive a car when you’re dead
-Tom Waits
never say never…
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 12:39:25pm |
re: #242 DaddyG
Lots more refunds due to loss of income. Georgia got hit last month too. We’re struggling to keep our budgets afloat. The good news is that we’re seeming to level off and business revenues are continuing to rise. That may be a leading indicator of better employment ahead.
AFAIC rising stocks and rising revenues are both good news no matter what position you take on the wraparound political scale.
I agree
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 12:39:35pm |
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 12:40:17pm |
re: #244 brookly red
they are not worthless… put a coupla fist fulls into a sweat sox & they can be quite handy.
No blood for copper!
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HoosierHoops Wed, May 12, 2010 12:40:54pm |
re: #245 darthstar
Spent a few hundred dollars and buy her a 22” monitor…
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 12:41:45pm |
re: #247 wrenchwench
Who needs a leaf blower? We had 50 mph winds this week.
/What leaves?
I wondered where all those leaves came from.
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 12:42:01pm |
re: #245 darthstar
Call them back and ask what the accident was that they had with it because when you sent it it worked fine save for the hinge!
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tradewind Wed, May 12, 2010 12:42:08pm |
re: #241 garhighway
Not if they have any money in the bank or investments to protect, nope.
Can’t think of anyone I know.
I do, however, remember hearing a lot of people during the previous administration talk about how they’d love to see us get whipped overseas if it would drive Dubya out of office.
Mostly the same people who kept drawing up those impeachment declarations and posting them online.
Bet they’re still ticked about that one.
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avanti Wed, May 12, 2010 12:42:11pm |
re: #232 tradewind
I believe the implication is that we’d rather see the market tank and blame Obama than fatten our portfolios.
/not so much./
A poster on the blog that shall not be named predicted DOW 3000 after the dip last week. Looks like the left buys stock, the far right is counting on seeds.
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wee fury Wed, May 12, 2010 12:42:22pm |
re: #236 Cato the Elder
I’ve said for years we ought to get rid of the penny. Round up or down and get shut of the stupid, useless, worthless thing.
In defense of the penny:
You need them for penny loafers.
You need them for piggy banks.
They are good to spin.
Lincoln is everywhere.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, May 12, 2010 12:42:41pm |
I wish that Stewart would have talked about what Kagan’s actual record is.
She is not a complete unknown who has no qualifications other than just being much smarter than Harriet Meyers. Meyers was a personal attorney for the president who was never involved with constitutional law, legal scholarship or public legal service on the national scale.
Kagan, is a very well respected legal scholar (surprisingly respected by both sides of the aisle), a law professor at both Harvard and Chicago, and has served two presidents in high ranking Justice Department positions.
Kagan is not a no-one. Meyers was quite seriously a no - one to the extent that even Bush’s most ardent supporters in the GOP laughed off the idea.
It would have been nice for Stewart to make that point. It would have been nice for CNN to make that point as well. It would have been really nice to not have to hope that Stewart would make that point, because there were actual reporting on this.
Who gives a damn if she is short! I really can’t believe that America has come to this.
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Kragar Wed, May 12, 2010 12:43:51pm |
re: #237 tradewind
Don’t pat yourself on the back just yet… friends of yours can have your stuff all over their facebook wall and poof… there you go.
HA! I dont have friends!
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garhighway Wed, May 12, 2010 12:44:00pm |
re: #257 tradewind
Not if they have any money in the bank or investments to protect, nope.
Can’t think of anyone I know.
I do, however, remember hearing a lot of people during the previous administration talk about how they’d love to see us get whipped overseas if it would drive Dubya out of office.
Mostly the same people who kept drawing up those impeachment declarations and posting them online.
Bet they’re still ticked about that one.
I’ve never met a single American that has rooted for our country to suffer a military defeat. I guess you and I travel in different circles.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, May 12, 2010 12:44:35pm |
re: #260 LudwigVanQuixote
Who gives a damn if she is short! I really can’t believe that America has come to this.
They got little hands
Little eyes
They walk around
Tellin’ great big lies
They got little noses
And tiny little teeth
They wear platform shoes
On their nasty little feet…
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lostlakehiker Wed, May 12, 2010 12:44:44pm |
re: #31 jamesfirecat
I know that, I was arguing that while it’s no ta Tu Quoque fallacy for people to say that if there was a huge earthquake that f***ed up some major city in California and Obama was lax on getting the federal government involved for people to call that Obama’s Katrina.
However it is a false equivalence logical falicy (false equivalence) to say that Kagan is Obama’s Harriet Miers just because she’s never been a judge…
The sad thing is that there’s no tu quoque here. Obama has made some mistakes. He’s done some things that he has to know will be bad for the country, because they’re good for him politically. But he has never attempted to place a lightweight on the SC like Bush did.
That was Bush’s most miserable day. Some mistakes are bad, but one can excuse the guy making the mistake with the thought that at any rate he meant well. Thus, Churchill excused, partially, Neville Chamberlain. That, even though the mistake itself, the Munich pact, was one of the worst of all history.
Some mistakes are stupid, but inconsequential. Thus, with Obama mis-pronouncing “Corps”. But some steps are taken in willful defiance of inescapable evidence that the step is wrong. It’s like if you asked somebody to sit in for you at a chess game and he puts the queen where it can be taken, even as the opponent says are you sure? I can just take it. And he sneers “so-ooo?”, and moves it there. Thus, with Bush’s naming of Miers.
Kagan is no Miers. Among the range of choices that Obama would find ideologically and philosophically compatible with his own thinking and his party’s platform, she’s about as good as he’ll find. She’s smart, she’s got some scholarly acumen, and she’s worked in the milieu of the SC. We have no grounds for suspecting her character. She even accepts the notion that the constitution actually grants some authority to the executive branch. We need that point to be understood because we’re at war and legislatures can’t make up their minds fast enough to react to the pace of events in a war. Never have been able to, never will.
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 12:44:44pm |
re: #236 Cato the Elder
I’ve said for years we ought to get rid of the penny. Round up or down and get shut of the stupid, useless, worthless thing.
Then retailers will be forced to advertise a product for sale at $10.00 and not $9.99??
No way ,,,, I ain’t paying 10 bucks for that thing!
/
(you DO know thats why they do it, btw,, don’t you)
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brookly red Wed, May 12, 2010 12:44:45pm |
re: #258 avanti
A poster on the blog that shall not be named predicted DOW 3000 after the dip last week. Looks like the left buys stock, the far right is counting on seeds.
so the right is buying seeds or the right is in bed with wall street, pick one cause you can’t have it both ways.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, May 12, 2010 12:45:33pm |
because there was actual reporting on this.
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 12:45:44pm |
re: #262 garhighway
I’ve never met a single American that has rooted for our country to suffer a military defeat. I guess you and I travel in different circles.
Guess you never met Jane Fonda!
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tradewind Wed, May 12, 2010 12:45:48pm |
re: #258 avanti
Excuse me, but who was it who made so much money shorting the dollar … Some guy named Soros?
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 12:46:16pm |
re: #260 LudwigVanQuixote I would really enjoy confirmation hearings that stuck to discussions of judicial philosophy and the candidates insight and opinion of past decisions (candidates and landmark cases).
This Enquiring Minds Want To Know crap just turns me off of the political process. I imagine it turns off a lot of people who would otherwise be more informed and active in our government.
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garhighway Wed, May 12, 2010 12:46:36pm |
re: #268 sattv4u2
Guess you never met Jane Fonda!
You’re right.
As I said, you and I must travel in different circles.
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Cato the Elder Wed, May 12, 2010 12:46:44pm |
re: #259 wee fury
In defense of the penny:
You need them for penny loafers.
You need them for piggy banks.
They are good to spin.
Lincoln is everywhere.
I have enough collecting dust in jars to last me through the Apocolypse and the millennial reign of Jesus Christ. I don’t need any more, and I certainly don’t need them in my pockets after breaking a twenty to buy a cuppa Starbucks…
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 12:47:14pm |
re: #271 garhighway
You’re right.
As I said, you and I must travel in different circles.
I see ,, so because you never actually “met” her, it doesn’t count!
mmmmkkkaaaaayyy!
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brookly red Wed, May 12, 2010 12:47:20pm |
re: #269 tradewind
Excuse me, but who was it who made so much money shorting the dollar … Some guy named Soros?
/did you ever notice that Soros spelled backwards is Soros?
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, May 12, 2010 12:47:35pm |
re: #264 lostlakehiker
The sad thing is that there’s no tu quoque here. Obama has made some mistakes. He’s done some things that he has to know will be bad for the country, because they’re good for him politically. But he has never attempted to place a lightweight on the SC like Bush did.
That was Bush’s most miserable day. Some mistakes are bad, but one can excuse the guy making the mistake with the thought that at any rate he meant well. Thus, Churchill excused, partially, Neville Chamberlain. That, even though the mistake itself, the Munich pact, was one of the worst of all history.
Some mistakes are stupid, but inconsequential. Thus, with Obama mis-pronouncing “Corps”. But some steps are taken in willful defiance of inescapable evidence that the step is wrong. It’s like if you asked somebody to sit in for you at a chess game and he puts the queen where it can be taken, even as the opponent says are you sure? I can just take it. And he sneers “so-ooo?”, and moves it there. Thus, with Bush’s naming of Miers.
Kagan is no Miers. Among the range of choices that Obama would find ideologically and philosophically compatible with his own thinking and his party’s platform, she’s about as good as he’ll find. She’s smart, she’s got some scholarly acumen, and she’s worked in the milieu of the SC. We have no grounds for suspecting her character. She even accepts the notion that the constitution actually grants some authority to the executive branch. We need that point to be understood because we’re at war and legislatures can’t make up their minds fast enough to react to the pace of events in a war. Never have been able to, never will.
Excellent post.
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lostlakehiker Wed, May 12, 2010 12:47:36pm |
re: #186 garhighway
It’s worse than them not being aligned with their religion. Just think about how much harder a person’s life must be if they are gay. All the extra crap they have to take in every aspect of their lives: physical danger from homophobes, discrimination at work and in housing, alienation from their families and former friends, it goes on and on. Who would freely choose such a life?
I am darkly amused at those that think that sexual orientation is a choice. I don’t recall choosing to be straight. People are who they are. Inflicting a lifetime of small and large punishments on people for something that was entirely beyond their control is just wrong, and those that would seek to continue that wrong for political gain are evil motherfuckers.
You’re an incestophobe. Shame on you.
/PC
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 12, 2010 12:47:37pm |
re: #260 LudwigVanQuixote
If you’re looking for hard news and straight facts from Stewart, you’re looking in the wrong place.
I hate to be the one to break this to you, brother, but Stewart is a comedian, not a news anchor.
///
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darthstar Wed, May 12, 2010 12:48:04pm |
re: #254 HoosierHoops
Spent a few hundred dollars and buy her a 22” monitor…
Hell, I can buy her a new laptop for less than 750 bucks…and it’s not like she keeps any data on it…all of her mail is on gmail, and all of our music (for ipods, etc.) is kept on a 500 gig external drive hooked up to the wifi.
I just need to find her a nice lightweight machine - not a mac. Maybe I’ll get a PC clone and put Ubuntu on it for her. It’ll have the same look and feel of a mac, only it’ll run Linux.
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 12:48:15pm |
re: #265 sattv4u2
Then retailers will be forced to advertise a product for sale at $10.00 and not $9.99??
No way ,,, I ain’t paying 10 bucks for that thing!
/
(you DO know thats why they do it, btw,, don’t you)
The alternate theory is that if you lose the 9’s from the sign board you can always flip the 6. Lose a zero and there’s no recovering. /
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tradewind Wed, May 12, 2010 12:48:31pm |
re: #262 garhighway
Oh, I didn’t say I ran around with them. Read their rants and watched them spout off on talk shows, though.
Saw the networks following them down to Crawford in the summertime… now that takes dedication!
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wee fury Wed, May 12, 2010 12:48:40pm |
re: #274 brookly red
/did you ever notice that Soros spelled backwards is Soros?
That is … weird. There must be a conspiracy lurking somewhere.
/
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Cato the Elder Wed, May 12, 2010 12:48:50pm |
re: #265 sattv4u2
Then retailers will be forced to advertise a product for sale at $10.00 and not $9.99??
No way ,,, I ain’t paying 10 bucks for that thing!
/
(you DO know thats why they do it, btw,, don’t you)
Yes, I do. It’s called psychological pricing, and it works. People really are that stupid. “Brand-new used car, only $14,999!” And Goober says, “Dayamn! I’ve got 14k in my account. I’m gonna buy me a car!”
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HoosierHoops Wed, May 12, 2010 12:49:15pm |
re: #260 LudwigVanQuixote
I like the choice…She is able to work with both the Right and Left…The court needs that..These days you don’t even to know the case details and you can still predict who will vote in 5-4 decisions
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 12:49:18pm |
re: #279 DaddyG
The alternate theory is that if you lose the 9’s from the sign board you can always flip the 6. Lose a zero and there’s no recovering. /
Thats still using the penny-verse!
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 12:49:33pm |
re: #282 Cato the Elder
Yes, I do. It’s called psychological pricing, and it works. People really are that stupid. “Brand-new used car, only $14,999!” And Goober says, “Dayamn! I’ve got 14k in my account. I’m gonna buy me a car!”
BINGO
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, May 12, 2010 12:49:38pm |
re: #274 brookly red
/did you ever notice that Soros spelled backwards is Soros?
To the chalkboard!!!
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 12:49:39pm |
re: #273 sattv4u2
I see ,, so because you never actually “met” her, it doesn’t count!
mmmkkkaaayyy!
I met Dick Van Dyke once. Although I have never been a qualified chimney sweep or driven a flying car.
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Cato the Elder Wed, May 12, 2010 12:49:41pm |
re: #277 Slumbering Behemoth
If you’re looking for hard news and straight facts from Stewart, you’re looking in the wrong place.
I hate to be the one to break this to you, brother, but Stewart is a comedian, not a news anchor.
///
And you tell the difference these days how, exactly?
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Bubblehead II Wed, May 12, 2010 12:49:43pm |
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 12:50:35pm |
re: #287 DaddyG
I met Dick Van Dyke once. Although I have never been a qualified chimney sweep or driven a flying car.
C’Mon ,,, you’ve been on 285!!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 12, 2010 12:51:19pm |
:sigh: Orly Taitz really is running for Secretary of State here in CA. I thought that was just some nightmare I had.
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freetoken Wed, May 12, 2010 12:51:25pm |
re: #282 Cato the Elder
Noticed several years ago that retailers were moving to “8” and “7” as the last digits. I’ve assumed till now it was because people would automatically round up “9”s… but now I thinking because it is harder for people to add 8’s and 7’s.
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 12:51:35pm |
re: #288 Cato the Elder
And you tell the difference these days how, exactly?
The actual news anchors sometimes get a story right, whereas the comedians nail it most times!
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Vicious Babushka Wed, May 12, 2010 12:52:14pm |
re: #260 LudwigVanQuixote
Who gives a damn if she is short! I really can’t believe that America has come to this.
You have no idea of the discrimination that is suffered by short people every day.
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 12:52:20pm |
re: #278 darthstar
That’s why Apple is being stupid. For a potential $750 fix they are going to lose your business forever. How much do you figure you would spend on computers and peripherals over the next decade? $2000 - 10,000?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 12, 2010 12:52:30pm |
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freetoken Wed, May 12, 2010 12:52:40pm |
re: #291 Slumbering Behemoth
We’re living in an alternate universe… somebody in the future came back out of desperation and is trying to fix things.
And this is the fix?
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tradewind Wed, May 12, 2010 12:52:52pm |
re: #270 DaddyG
She will have some interesting questions regarding her views on free speech and its limits, since one of the very few writings she has available deals with her perception that they are somehow malleable.
Still, I hope the Senate does not waste a lot of time on this hearing…. she will be there in October no matter, and there’s no use attempting what can’t…. and shouldn’t ordinarily, IMO, be done…i.e., denying a sitting president his choice, within reason, of a SCOTUS judicial nominee.
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Cato the Elder Wed, May 12, 2010 12:52:53pm |
re: #260 LudwigVanQuixote
Short people are tricksy. Just ask Gollum or anyone who’s ever crossed minds with Tyrion.
By the way, am I still a pissbag in your books today, and if so, am I still invited to your shindig?
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 12:53:19pm |
re: #292 freetoken
Noticed several years ago that retailers were moving to “8” and “7” as the last digits. I’ve assumed till now it was because people would automatically round up “9”s… but now I thinking because it is harder for people to add 8’s and 7’s.
Actually, it’s to “beat” the competition. The minds eye sees the 8 (or 7) as being less than the 9, even if the preceding numbers are higher
((damn ,,, I spent WAY to much time in sales/ marketing classes!!))
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Killgore Trout Wed, May 12, 2010 12:53:51pm |
re: #258 avanti
A poster on the blog that shall not be named predicted DOW 3000 after the dip last week. Looks like the left buys stock, the far right is counting on seeds.
Sort of…..but I think the reality of the situation is that wingnuts don’t believe their own rhetoric. They certainly cheer when the market drops and predict doom and destruction but in reality they are well invested in the market and aren’t really buying gold and seeds. Deep down they know America is recovering thanks to Obama but they don’t want to admit it.
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tradewind Wed, May 12, 2010 12:54:10pm |
re: #286 Mad Al-Jaffee
Eek! A palindrome.
Soros and palin, together at last.//
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sagehen Wed, May 12, 2010 12:54:15pm |
re: #294 Alouette
You have no idea of the discrimination that is suffered by short people every day.
(what? somebody had to.)
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garhighway Wed, May 12, 2010 12:54:28pm |
re: #283 HoosierHoops
I like the choice…She is able to work with both the Right and Left…The court needs that..These days you don’t even to know the case details and you can still predict who will vote in 5-4 decisions
But she’s never been a Judge! Therefore she’s unqualified!
Or something like that…
/
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freetoken Wed, May 12, 2010 12:54:35pm |
re: #278 darthstar
The Apple discussion forums have entries on the MBA hinges, perhaps you’ll find something there to help:
[Link: discussions.apple.com…]
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iossarian Wed, May 12, 2010 12:54:39pm |
re: #276 lostlakehiker
You’re an incestophobe. Shame on you.
/PC
A recommendation: Alan Bennett’s “Playing Sandwiches” - part of his “Talking Heads” series. The subject is a pedophile: “It’s the one part of my life that feels right… and that’s the bit that’s wrong.” Very thought-provoking. I think it’s available on youtube.
Also see Fritz Lang’s “M”.
Anyway, my point is, it’s difficult to know what to do with people who have an apparently irresistible urge to do “bad” things.
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 12:54:49pm |
re: #290 sattv4u2
C’Mon ,,, you’ve been on 285!!
I stand corrected.
This is your captain speaking - we will be crusining at 190 MPH at approximately 2 feet. We should be making our approach to Chattanooga in about 45 minutes. Please fasten your seat belt and pray.
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Killgore Trout Wed, May 12, 2010 12:55:01pm |
re: #259 wee fury
In defense of the penny:
You need them for penny loafers.
You need them for piggy banks.
They are good to spin.
Lincoln is everywhere.
They are also the ultimate slug control. Just a few pennies around each seedling keeps the slugs away. They hate the copper.
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brookly red Wed, May 12, 2010 12:55:26pm |
re: #297 freetoken
We’re living in an alternate universe… somebody in the future came back out of desperation and is trying to fix things.
Damn! Busted!
Recall, repeat recall!
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 12:55:37pm |
re: #294 Alouette
You have no idea of the discrimination that is suffered by short people every day.
It is especially bad if you calculate the amount per vertical inch.
/ducks and runs
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 12:56:20pm |
re: #294 Alouette
You have no idea of the discrimination that is suffered by short people every day.
I’ve always told people “I’m not short. My feet reach the ground!”
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 12, 2010 12:56:32pm |
re: #257 tradewind
Not if they have any money in the bank or investments to protect, nope.
Can’t think of anyone I know.
I do, however, remember hearing a lot of people during the previous administration talk about how they’d love to see us get whipped overseas if it would drive Dubya out of office.
Mostly the same people who kept drawing up those impeachment declarations and posting them online.
Bet they’re still ticked about that one.
Do you ‘know’ these people who were talking during the last administration?
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freetoken Wed, May 12, 2010 12:56:42pm |
Apple even has a page on MBA hinges:
[Link: support.apple.com…]
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brookly red Wed, May 12, 2010 12:56:58pm |
re: #304 garhighway
But she’s never been a Judge! Therefore she’s unqualified!
Or something like that…
/
gee that is kinda funny imagine that, an employer considering previous experience. who woudda thunk it?
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 12, 2010 12:57:36pm |
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, May 12, 2010 12:58:02pm |
re: #270 DaddyG
I would really enjoy confirmation hearings that stuck to discussions of judicial philosophy and the candidates insight and opinion of past decisions (candidates and landmark cases).
This Enquiring Minds Want To Know crap just turns me off of the political process. I imagine it turns off a lot of people who would otherwise be more informed and active in our government.
You are absolutely correct. The problem is that such hearings would:
1. Be above the heads of over 90% of the legislators. Seriously, could you see nine out of ten of those fellows even being capable of following a complex legal argument that delves deeply into the interpretation of established precedents in constitutional law?
2. Prevent them from speechifying that the typical American rube could follow.
The Fox viewers can understand :When GOP abuse constitution, judges bad for disagree! Dem judge BAD! bad, Dems bad, liberals bad. Abortion bad. Gays bad! Church need be in school. School bad, but Jesus Good! Jesus need be in bedroom. Coddle terrorist bad. Terrorist have no rights.
The liberal viewers are a little more sophisticated - but not much. They get
that conservative judges will refuse gays equal status under the law and threaten abortion rights. Some even more sophisticated than that have the sense that increasing the power of the president even further is a threat to the Republic.
But of course only a very few (on either side) are really interested or capable of following a real discussion of the real issues from a legal theory perspective.
It makes for bad TV.
3 It won’t happen because it would detract from a cheap opportunity to create a false wedge issue that is divorced from reality.
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garhighway Wed, May 12, 2010 12:58:03pm |
re: #314 brookly red
gee that is kinda funny imagine that, an employer considering previous experience. who woudda thunk it?
So….
Do you think Ms. Kagan is an inappropriate choice?
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 12:58:22pm |
re: #298 tradewind
She will have some interesting questions regarding her views on free speech and its limits, since one of the very few writings she has available deals with her perception that they are somehow malleable.
I just read the article Drudge linked about that. The headline was deceiving. Her views seemed pretty consistent with the “can’t yell fire in a crowded theatre” rule, but said free speech could not be limited by government in the case of disagreement with ideology. I would think that bodes well for things like “fairness doctrines”.
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 12:58:33pm |
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, May 12, 2010 12:58:46pm |
re: #277 Slumbering Behemoth
If you’re looking for hard news and straight facts from Stewart, you’re looking in the wrong place.
I hate to be the one to break this to you, brother, but Stewart is a comedian, not a news anchor.
///
My brother, sort of the point was that it is tragic that media has devolved so much, that a Comedian is one of the few places to get news.
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avanti Wed, May 12, 2010 12:59:25pm |
re: #301 Killgore Trout
Sort of…but I think the reality of the situation is that wingnuts don’t believe their own rhetoric. They certainly cheer when the market drops and predict doom and destruction but in reality they are well invested in the market and aren’t really buying gold and seeds. Deep down they know America is recovering thanks to Obama but they don’t want to admit it.
Even Fox business is starting to admit the recovery is going much better than other rebounds. I agree the deficit is a big problem, but another Clinton like boom could take the edge off that. (Still a hope and change, Kool-Aid drinker)
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 12, 2010 12:59:51pm |
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tradewind Wed, May 12, 2010 1:00:08pm |
re: #312 SanFranciscoZionist
#280, but you probably are past that already.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, May 12, 2010 1:00:15pm |
re: #314 brookly red
gee that is kinda funny imagine that, an employer considering previous experience. who woudda thunk it?
Yeah that experience includes being a law professor at two of the most prestigious universities and a long career of distinguished legal service for the government at high ranks.
What kind of qualifications are those?
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 1:01:18pm |
re: #322 SanFranciscoZionist
Yeah. Just more the same crap.
So because non of us have ever met JF that means there were NO Americans that rootyed against the US in a war
(that was, btw, the genesis of the debate)
“more of the same”
TRANSLATION
OUCH ,,, that bastard found one!
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 1:01:54pm |
re: #316 LudwigVanQuixote
Agreed - excpet that liberals are a little better than conservatives stuff. ;-p
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 12, 2010 1:02:55pm |
re: #323 tradewind
#280, but you probably are past that already.
Got it. There are no crazy extremists on the conservative side of things. Oh, wait, there are, but every time they pop up, people whine and cry that the lefty ones disprove everything. Hey, JANE FUCKING FONDA.
I’m not impressed with this crap. It’s crap.
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 1:03:03pm |
re: #321 avanti
Even Fox business is starting to admit the recovery is going much better than other rebounds. I agree the deficit is a big problem, but another Clinton like boom could take the edge off that. (Still a hope and change, Kool-Aid drinker)
And where do you see this “boom” occuring?
Green energies are a decade (at best) away
We’ve already done the tech/ housing boom. Niether of those are going to re-happen
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webevintage Wed, May 12, 2010 1:03:22pm |
Jesus.
He is blowing leaves…again.
This has been going on all fucking day.
I need a drink.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 12, 2010 1:03:22pm |
re: #325 sattv4u2
So because non of us have ever met JF that means there were NO Americans that rootyed against the US in a war
(that was, btw, the genesis of the debate)
“more of the same”
TRANSLATION
OUCH ,,, that bastard found one!
Get over yourself.
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darthstar Wed, May 12, 2010 1:03:44pm |
re: #295 DaddyG
That’s why Apple is being stupid. For a potential $750 fix they are going to lose your business forever. How much do you figure you would spend on computers and peripherals over the next decade? $2000 - 10,000?
I just found a site where I can get her a brand new Dell with Ubuntu for 649 dollars. Sold!
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 12, 2010 1:03:47pm |
re: #325 sattv4u2
So because non of us have ever met JF that means there were NO Americans that rootyed against the US in a war
(that was, btw, the genesis of the debate)
“more of the same”
TRANSLATION
OUCH ,,, that bastard found one!
You would never consider that a valid form of argument if it were turned around on you.
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 1:04:09pm |
re: #330 SanFranciscoZionist
Get over yourself.
It’s you that took offense that I mentioned Saint Jane!
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lostlakehiker Wed, May 12, 2010 1:04:12pm |
re: #213 freetoken
BUY GOLD!! (without embedded chips!!)
As the White House looks to cut costs across government, “making coins from more cost-effective materials could save more than $100 million a year, which isn’t just pocket change,” says Dan Tangherlini, the Treasury Department’s chief financial officer.
The government isn’t saying which new materials it might use in coins. Most coin experts say creating non-metal coins would go over like a wooden nickel. Still, industrial porcelain, embedded with an identification chip, is seen as an outside possibility. A more likely candidate: an aluminum alloy, used by other countries for coins. But any switch is likely to be controversial.
I have a great idea. They should make porcelain coins, and use the old Indian Head nickel design. With a buffalo on the reverse. We could then proudly announce that the mint has come out with a new kind of money,
wait
for
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it
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BUFFALO CHIP money.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, May 12, 2010 1:04:25pm |
re: #327 SanFranciscoZionist
Got it. There are no crazy extremists on the conservative side of things. Oh, wait, there are, but every time they pop up, people whine and cry that the lefty ones disprove everything. Hey, JANE FUCKING FONDA.
I’m not impressed with this crap. It’s crap.
But mommy! Billy stole a cooookie fiiirsssst… whyyyy can’t IIIII?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 12, 2010 1:04:31pm |
re: #320 LudwigVanQuixote
My brother, sort of the point was that it is tragic that media has devolved so much, that a Comedian is one of the few places to get news.
I look to comedians for comedy, not news. If they happen to insert factual social commentary into the laughs, that’s just gravy.
I look to news anchors for… weather and traffic reports. If they happen to insert factual accounts of real world events in between those two things, I consider that an accidental anomaly.
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 1:05:05pm |
re: #332 SanFranciscoZionist
You would never consider that a valid form of argument if it were turned around on you.
incorrect
If I made the statement that “no American,,,,” and the person I was talking to mentioned one that DID, I would capitulate
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, May 12, 2010 1:05:49pm |
re: #336 Slumbering Behemoth
I look to comedians for comedy, not news. If they happen to insert factual social commentary into the laughs, that’s just gravy.
I look to news anchors for… weather and traffic reports. If they happen to insert factual accounts of real world events in between those two things, I consider that an accidental anomaly.
NO debate at all. I was shocked at every clip in the Stewart clip. Geeze this woman is actually a giant in the legal world. The could at least point that out.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 12, 2010 1:06:49pm |
re: #262 garhighway
I’ve never met a single American that has rooted for our country to suffer a military defeat. I guess you and I travel in different circles.
THIS is the genesis of the debate, BTW. And I have never met such a person either. I do not deny that they exist in some circles, but the smug implication that they’re quite common is a disgrace.
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tradewind Wed, May 12, 2010 1:06:58pm |
re: #318 DaddyG
You can get a running start on Drudge, but usually to find out anything you have to track a headline back several links. Here’s her Chicago law review piece, and the last page describes her belief that it may be /is / necessary to discern a motive behind what appears to be covered speech. (See /google also ‘Buckley principle’)
Slippery slope, IMO.
[Link: www.scotusblog.com…]
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 1:07:26pm |
re: #336 Slumbering Behemoth
I look to comedians for comedy, not news.
And with the current generation, I’m pleasantly surprised when one is actually funny!
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 12, 2010 1:07:32pm |
re: #333 sattv4u2
It’s you that took offense that I mentioned Saint Jane!
You’re arguing dishonestly. And if you think I’m a fan of that woman, you can think again.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 12, 2010 1:08:05pm |
re: #337 sattv4u2
incorrect
If I made the statement that “no American,,,” and the person I was talking to mentioned one that DID, I would capitulate
You’re a saint. Like Jane.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 12, 2010 1:08:16pm |
re: #337 sattv4u2
incorrect
If I made the statement that “no American,,,” and the person I was talking to mentioned one that DID, I would capitulate
Who said ‘no American’?
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 1:08:28pm |
re: #339 SanFranciscoZionist
THIS is the genesis of the debate, BTW. And I have never met such a person either. I do not deny that they exist in some circles, but the smug implication that they’re quite common is a disgrace.
Your words, not mine! Nor did I anywhere imlpy it
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Cato the Elder Wed, May 12, 2010 1:09:45pm |
re: #316 LudwigVanQuixote
LVQ: Please see my #299. It would be good to know where I stand with you.
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 1:09:57pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 12, 2010 1:09:58pm |
re: #345 sattv4u2
Your words, not mine! Nor did I anywhere imlpy it
OK, where did Gar say ‘no American’?
Why do I even care? Another political argument being fought out with examples of Bad Liberal Behavior from forty years ago.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 12, 2010 1:10:35pm |
re: #347 sattv4u2
not a “SINGLE” American
hence ,, NO
Preceded by “I have never met”, hence clearly indicating personal experience.
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 1:10:38pm |
I have a slightly different take on the Cons/Libs want America to fail stuff…
I suspect most people fear a failure and take policy positions based on that fear.
For example “We’re going to fail in Iraq” isn’t a wish for failure as much as a fear that we are doing the wrong thing and seeking to blame Bush. Just as “The libs are going to tank the market, wait and see- isn’t a wish for the market to tank but an expression of fear that Obama’s policy vis a vis debt will cost us in the long run.”
Perhaps I’m too generous in my interpretation but only the most radical (Anarchists, Skinheads, etc.) actually wish for us to truly fail.
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 1:12:10pm |
re: #349 SanFranciscoZionist
Preceded by “I have never met”, hence clearly indicating personal experience.
Got he. He never met one (personal) so it doesn’t exist
I have never met a racist tea party attendee!
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 1:12:56pm |
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 1:13:29pm |
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 1:13:43pm |
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 1:14:07pm |
re: #354 DaddyG
You are on #2 - wow you’ve got some catching up to do!
He likes to take his time and savor!
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DaddyG Wed, May 12, 2010 1:14:32pm |
I’ve never met a teabagger. But I’m willing to believe that Keith Olberman knows what he’s talking about.
/ducks and runs again…
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tradewind Wed, May 12, 2010 1:15:26pm |
re: #351 sattv4u2
Hell, I live in the reddest of red states, yet I’ve never even met a person who says they belong to the Tea Party.
But they’re out there. I know they’re out there.
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 1:15:42pm |
re: #357 DaddyG
I’ve never met a teabagger. But I’m willing to believe that Keith Olberman knows what he’s talking about.
/ducks and runs again…
I see Keith as more of a “dress up in a diaper and be mothered” type
//
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tradewind Wed, May 12, 2010 1:16:27pm |
re: #355 sattv4u2
Yeah, and we’re already down three on the domestic attack front. I don’t think I’d be comparing records just yet.
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 1:16:57pm |
re: #360 tradewind
Yeah, and we’re already down three on the domestic attack front. I don’t think I’d be comparing records just yet.
(((ssshhhhhh))))
HOPE
CHANGE
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 12, 2010 1:17:18pm |
re: #351 sattv4u2
Got he. He never met one (personal) so it doesn’t exist
I have never met a racist tea party attendee!
He did not say that, he was clear about what he was saying, but you had to get the snide in.
And God knows I have heard that argument brought out a time or two.
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tradewind Wed, May 12, 2010 1:17:25pm |
re: #354 DaddyG
Happens when you skip to the front for something else.
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garhighway Wed, May 12, 2010 1:18:48pm |
re: #362 SanFranciscoZionist
He did not say that, he was clear about what he was saying, but you had to get the snide in.
Thanks. I thought I was clear, too.
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tradewind Wed, May 12, 2010 1:19:13pm |
re: #359 sattv4u2
I also think ’ mother ’ when I hear KO’s name, but in a somewhat different vein./
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Reginald Perrin Wed, May 12, 2010 1:20:12pm |
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 1:21:45pm |
re: #364 garhighway
Thanks. I thought I was clear, too.
So it carries as much weight as my #351. Thanks for clearing that up!
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 12, 2010 1:25:41pm |
Okay,,, going to try to put the gas hedge trimmer back together, AGAIN!
(ummm,, are there supposed to be parts left over!?!?!)
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Spare O'Lake Wed, May 12, 2010 1:27:36pm |
re: #368 sattv4u2
Actually, gar was wrong and you were correct. In the context, gar was clearly generalizing from his own personal experience to deny the proposition outright.
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elektramourns Wed, May 12, 2010 3:03:54pm |
re: #15 JasonA
Re Miers, she did corporate law and was tied to the Bushies. Note that Sen. McConnell today criticized Kagan for possibly not being independent of the Pres and the WH but remember McConnell lauded Miers and said she was a superb choice when we all knew her claim to fame was with the Bushies.
Kagan has done a lot more than just be Solicitor General. and they vetted her last year. Arlen Specter was against her then.
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elektramourns Wed, May 12, 2010 3:08:47pm |
re: #74 Virginia Plain
Rekers got $120,00 from FLA courts and 60 from AK courts testifying about how awful homosexuality was. Given these developments, he was not telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, was he , if he is really gay. I think the money should be returned to those states. Talk about a biased witness in more ways than one.
Rekers is the epitome of GOP hypocrisy and scum. Did anyone see the CNN and Anderson Cooper story?
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elektramourns Wed, May 12, 2010 3:12:22pm |
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elektramourns Wed, May 12, 2010 3:13:35pm |
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elektramourns Wed, May 12, 2010 3:15:46pm |
re: #53 beekiller
Has anyone spoken to the hooker he got busted traveling with? I haven’t kept up with this drama.
it was on CNN and Anderson Cooper….go to [Link: www.huffingtonpost.com…]
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elektramourns Wed, May 12, 2010 3:21:29pm |
re: #198 tradewind
Every one of the attorneys for the corporations involved will try to obtain waivers from potential litigants, and that’s their job ,since they have a fiduciary duty to their stockholders. It still isn’t a good thing, IMO. I hope they don’t get any signatures until the potential plaintiffs have a chance to meet with attorneys of their own. Anyway, this early on, the damages can’t exactly be known. No one should sign anything yet.
Coercion or duress will vitiate the waivers. Besides, Obama may have a federal remedy available to them or at least he should. Those who seek equity should do equity.
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elektramourns Wed, May 12, 2010 3:26:06pm |
oh, [Link: www.thedailycaller.com…] (Tucker Carlson’s rightwing forum) is looking for people who have pix of Kagan with a man, a mans penis, whatever.
Tucker sure knows how to carry water for the lunatic fringe. The people who write comments on his site are about as bad as those on Michelle Malkin’s site.
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elektramourns Wed, May 12, 2010 3:30:21pm |
re: #136 DaddyG
Yes I do. There are a lot of people who are in serious pain with the fact that their “thorns of the flesh” don’t align with their religious beliefs.
I wrestled with a lot of things to align my life more fully with my beliefs but none of them were as fundamentally a part of my life as my feelings of intimacy. I cannot imagine the struggle, but if it happens to one of my children I will not make their life harder by suggesting coercive therapies, shunning them, denying affection or any other (IMO) quite un-Christian practice.
It leads to ego-dystonia, hypocrisy, and self-loathing, and that crap leads to anxiety and the classical defense mechanisms. It can lead to violence, crime, and prison. I know gays who abuse their partners. We all deserve a little love in this lifetime and a morsel of respect.
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