Lewis Black on Glenn Beck's Hitler Fetish

“Whenever anyone wants others to do their work they call upon their Altruism. “Never mind your own needs,” they say, “Think of the needs of… of whoever. Of the state. Of the poor. Of the Army, of the King. Of God.” The list goes on and on. How many catastrophes were launched with the words “Think of yourself?” It’s the king and country crowd who light the torch of destruction.”

Glenn Beck needs to stop getting his talking points from Bioshock….

ShaunP Thu, May 13, 2010 9:13:38am

re: #4 jamesfirecat

“Empathy leads you to very bad decisions many times.”

“Whenever anyone wants others to do their work they call upon their Altruism. “Never mind your own needs,” they say, “Think of the needs of… of whoever. Of the state. Of the poor. Of the Army, of the King. Of God.” The list goes on and on. How many catastrophes were launched with the words “Think of yourself?” It’s the king and country crowd who light the torch of destruction.”

Glenn Beck needs to stop getting his talking points from Bioshock…

Interesting fact about bioshock; parts were influenced by Ayn Rand’s book “Atlans Shrugged”:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

In the videogame Bioshock, heavily influenced by Atlas Shrugged, the phrase “Who is Atlas?” is scrawled on many walls throughout the game world. Atlas is, in-game, a persona adopted by the main antagonist of the game to conceal his identity.

Aceofwhat? Thu, May 13, 2010 9:13:50am

“You can’t compare Al Gore to Hitler! Hitler had charisma!”

lolz. hilarious all the way through.

ShaunP Thu, May 13, 2010 9:14:05am

re: #5 ShaunP

That of course should be “ATLAS”… PIMF…

Why I Never! Thu, May 13, 2010 9:14:11am

that was awesome. ;)

In other news involving giant balls of gas (how’s that for a segue?) Jupiter has lost one of its stripes.

Jupiter loses one of its stripes and scientists are stumped as to why

(sorry for linking the Daily Fail there)

Lidane Thu, May 13, 2010 9:14:47am

re: #4 jamesfirecat

Glenn Beck needs to stop getting his talking points from ~~Bioshock~~ Ayn Rand.

FTFY. Glenn Beck’s not tech savvy enough to play Bioshock. He’s cribbing straight from Atlas Shrugged and other bits of Ayn Rand’s silliness to make those statements about empathy.

Fozzie Bear Thu, May 13, 2010 9:14:59am

re: #8 iceweasel

Clearly it was demoted by Saturn.

[deleted] Thu, May 13, 2010 9:15:54am

cenotaphium Thu, May 13, 2010 9:15:57am

re: #4 jamesfirecat

How many catastrophes were launched with the words “Think of yourself?”

This is like a magicians sleight of hand. He explicitly states the obvious answer - that most horror is done out of self-interest and self-righteousness, so that can’t possibly be the answer, right? Whatever reasons justify atrocities further down the line, did they not all start from individual people seeing an opening for personal gain?

Look at the hand, nothing up my sleeve.

_{Expertly done manipulation. RATHER LIKE GOEBBLES, AMIRITE?!}

Fozzie Bear Thu, May 13, 2010 9:16:08am

I like when people quote Ayn Rand alot. It saves me the trouble of getting to know them and being disappointed.

jamesfirecat Thu, May 13, 2010 9:16:17am

re: #9 Lidane

FTFY. Glenn Beck’s not tech savvy enough to play Bioshock. He’s cribbing straight from Atlas Shrugged and other bits of Ayn Rand’s silliness to make those statements about empathy.

So you’re saying Glen Beck isn’t up to moving a mouse around to play a game where no matter what you can’t ever die (till you get to the final boss) with lots of bright flashy colors (well some bright a lot of well done shadowy colors) but he has what it takes to read all the way through Atlas Shrugged?

[deleted] Thu, May 13, 2010 9:16:56am

yoshicastmaster Thu, May 13, 2010 9:18:06am

wow. john stewart has been on a roll tearing apart fox news of late.

but lewis black here got some huge laughs out of me. that segment was made of win.

SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 13, 2010 9:24:25am

re: #5 ShaunP

“How many catastrophes were launched with the words “Think of yourself?”

I don’t know, but the stack piled up under the heading “God (or a suitable substitute) wants us to have this,” may reach to the moon. Blaming greed and warmongering on EMPATHY is a bit rich.

wrenchwench Thu, May 13, 2010 9:24:42am

Nazi Tourette’s. Heh.

Summer Seale Thu, May 13, 2010 9:24:44am

re: #8 iceweasel

It must have been Hitler! =)

Aceofwhat? Thu, May 13, 2010 9:25:15am

re: #10 iceweasel

that was awesome. ;)

In other news involving giant balls of gas (how’s that for a segue?) Jupiter has lost one of its stripes.

Jupiter loses one of its stripes and scientists are stumped as to why

(sorry for linking the Daily Fail there)

i was right. You CAN have too many red belts/

Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 9:26:20am

The number of seconds in that Comedy Central video is 5:55.

That reminds me of 666.

CC = SS!

jc717 Thu, May 13, 2010 9:27:55am

Speaking of Atlas Shrugged:
“Two novels can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other involves orcs.” - John Rogers

garhighway Thu, May 13, 2010 9:29:12am

re: #16 yoshicastmaster

wow. john stewart has been on a roll tearing apart fox news of late.

but lewis black here got some huge laughs out of me. that segment was made of win.

I guess Stewart has FNDS.

watching you tiny alien kittens are Thu, May 13, 2010 9:29:20am

Excellent satire, dead on, it is only as funny as it is because it is so very true.

“Glenn Beck has Hitler Tourettes”…bwahahaha.

Fozzie Bear Thu, May 13, 2010 9:29:29am

I love that quip jc717. One of my favorites regarding Rand’s narcissist manifesto.

webevintage Thu, May 13, 2010 9:31:35am

Brawahahahahahahahaha

Lewis Black is a GOD!

PAUL_MACDONALD Thu, May 13, 2010 9:32:53am

I just loved the juxtaposition:

“I’m not saying Obama is Hitler”

followed by

“JUST LIKE HITLER!”

Beck is an idiot. Black nailed it.

Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, May 13, 2010 9:34:14am

Sound isn’t working

Aceofwhat? Thu, May 13, 2010 9:35:39am

re: #28 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Sound isn’t working

on mine, the volume on the embedded vid (not my pc) was all the way down.

Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Thu, May 13, 2010 9:37:18am

re: #29 Aceofwhat?

on mine, the volume on the embedded vid (not my pc) was all the way down.

Didn’t have that problem.

Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, May 13, 2010 9:42:12am

For some reason, my PC would play default sounds, but nothing from any web pages, reboot fixed it.

wee fury Thu, May 13, 2010 9:43:18am

Funny!

Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, May 13, 2010 9:48:26am

OK, who here has an attic we can donate to Glenn?

Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 9:49:25am

re: #25 Fozzie Bear

I love that quip jc717. One of my favorites regarding Rand’s narcissist manifesto.

I have two new ones of my own:

“It’s not the consumption of Ayn Rand one fears. It’s the painful excretions that follow after.”

“Ayn Rand’s ‘philosophy’: third-hand Nietzsche badly wrapped in greed-porn.”

Fozzie Bear Thu, May 13, 2010 9:49:34am

I have a closet under the stairs he could use.

Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 9:49:52am

re: #33 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

OK, who here has an attic we can donate to Glenn?

I have a crawlspace.

cenotaphium Thu, May 13, 2010 9:50:21am

re: #33 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I could donate three rolls of tin foil for him. But I think he’s got enough already.

Taqyia2Me Thu, May 13, 2010 9:51:07am

re: #35 Fozzie Bear

I have a closet under the stairs he could use.

Potter, Harry Potter…is that you??

Taqyia2Me Thu, May 13, 2010 9:52:07am

re: #36 Cato the Elder

I have a crawlspace.

Heh, like John Wayne Gacy use a crawlspace?

Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, May 13, 2010 9:53:20am

re: #36 Cato the Elder

I have a crawlspace.

Too Gacy-esque

Slap Thu, May 13, 2010 9:53:34am

re: “hypocritical weenie Glenn Beck”

Dear Mr. Johnson -

I am writing to you with a heavy heart. I had once thought of you as a shining example of how an intellect can learn and grow, and now, alas, you’ve shown yourself to be nothing but a panderer.

Your use of such inflammatory language is a pox on our society. These comparisons are offensive in the extreme, and our attorneys will now be pursuing you with enthusiastic fervor.

Don’t mess with us again.

Sincerely,
Oscar Meyer

Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, May 13, 2010 9:53:35am

re: #39 Taqyia2Me

Heh, like John Wayne Gacy use a crawlspace?

GMTA

Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, May 13, 2010 9:54:30am

re: #41 Slap

Lighten up Francis

Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 9:54:32am

re: #40 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Too Gacy-esque

Mine is upstairs, under my hot, flat, tar-papered Baltimore roof. He’d be safe there.

Stanley Sea Thu, May 13, 2010 9:55:01am

OT, but message to Charles - the bookmarklet feature is amazing.

Renaissance_Man Thu, May 13, 2010 9:55:27am

It should be horrible that there are thousands of people out there who follow Glenn Beck and consider him their prophet, and agree with his pap uncritically. (PS. Glenn, Dittoes^TM is taken.)

But I’m not really horrified. Stupid people who are willing to believe entirely fantastical apocalyptic cults have always existed. There are even more who may only be somewhat slow-witted, but who are susceptible to charismatic demagogues and who will thus believe anything.

What is horrifying, and disgusting, is that a supposed news organisation is willing to give him daily prime-time air time and to push his message, in various ways, throughout the rest of their programming.

Taqyia2Me Thu, May 13, 2010 9:55:54am

re: #42 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

GMTA

The honor is mine, thank you very much!!

PT Barnum Thu, May 13, 2010 9:57:04am

What’s up? he said, hoping that there was some brilliant morsel of witticism to be found to brighten his otherwise miserable existence.

Slap Thu, May 13, 2010 9:57:06am

re: #43 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I figured the “Oscar Meyer” at the end mighta been enough to obviate the sarc tag.

Lightness was the point.

Jadespring Thu, May 13, 2010 9:58:28am

I’m going Galt!

Fozzie Bear Thu, May 13, 2010 9:59:23am

re: #50 Jadespring

It sort of reminds me of:
“Hey guys we’re going streaking through the quad!!! Who is coming with me??”

Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, May 13, 2010 9:59:26am

re: #49 Slap

I figured the “Oscar Meyer” at the end mighta been enough to obviate the sarc tag.

Lightness was the point.

Sarc tags are not to be trifled with.

I’ve learned that the hard way.

Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 10:00:26am

re: #52 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Sarc tags are not to be trifled with.

I’ve learned that the hard way.

Unless you’re me. Never touch the things, myself.

Fozzie Bear Thu, May 13, 2010 10:00:59am

I think it would be fun to hand out free T-shirts to the homeless that say “gone Galt” on them. Then I realize that’s mean to the homeless people.

Spare O'Lake Thu, May 13, 2010 10:01:53am

re: #49 Slap

I figured the “Oscar Meyer” at the end mighta been enough to obviate the sarc tag.

Lightness was the point.

ALL LIVESTOCK JOKES MUST BE UDDERLY DEVASTATING!

PT Barnum Thu, May 13, 2010 10:01:55am

re: #54 Fozzie Bear

I think it would be fun to hand out free T-shirts to the homeless that say “gone Galt” on them. Then I realize that’s mean to the homeless people.

We could hand them all tshirts that say Galter boy…oh wait…

PT Barnum Thu, May 13, 2010 10:02:30am

re: #55 Spare O’Lake

ALL LIVESTOCK JOKES MUST BE UDDERLY DEVASTATING!

Moove along, nothing to see here.

Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, May 13, 2010 10:03:10am

re: #53 Cato the Elder

Unless you’re me. Never touch the things, myself.

Thats because you are never sarcastic.

Liberal Classic Thu, May 13, 2010 10:03:25am

I’ve never actually read anything by Ayn Rand, but with all the publicity here I may have to pick up a copy of Atlas Shrugged and read it out of spite. :P

Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, May 13, 2010 10:04:14am

re: #55 Spare O’Lake

ALL LIVESTOCK JOKES MUST BE UDDERLY DEVASTATING!

Knock Knock

Who’s there?

Interrupting cow.

Interrup-

MOOO!

Slap Thu, May 13, 2010 10:04:24am

re: #59 Liberal Classic

When they come out with the super sekrit drinking game Atlas Chugged, I might get interested…..

Interesting Times Thu, May 13, 2010 10:04:44am

Wife of Clarence Thomas lists herself as a “fan” of Rush Limbaugh and says she is “intrigued” by Glenn Beck.

This makes me wish Elena Kagan was married to a Daily Show fan (or better still, is one herself!)

Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 13, 2010 10:04:52am

re: #59 Liberal Classic

I’ve never actually read anything by Ayn Rand, but with all the publicity here I may have to pick up a copy of Atlas Shrugged and read it out of spite. :P

I’m curious about it too, and I plan to read it one of these days so I can form my own opinion about it.

PT Barnum Thu, May 13, 2010 10:04:53am

re: #59 Liberal Classic

I’ve never actually read anything by Ayn Rand, but with all the publicity here I may have to pick up a copy of Atlas Shrugged and read it out of spite. :P

I tried once, but decided to read something more enjoyable instead. Did you know that there are 324 varieties of earthworm in the world?

NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 13, 2010 10:05:12am

0re: #46 Renaissance_Man

It should be horrible that there are thousands of people out there who follow Glenn Beck and consider him their prophet

For real? Thousands of idiots if that’s the case. That reminds me of the “Obama is the Messiah” idiots who popped up during the election. Some people can’t grasp reality that nobody today is the messiah or a prophet.

/….except Roger Staubach in the 70s.

Liberal Classic Thu, May 13, 2010 10:05:19am

re: #61 Slap

Hey, you can make a drinking game out of almost anything. ;)

PT Barnum Thu, May 13, 2010 10:05:33am

re: #60 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Knock Knock

Who’s there?

Interrupting cow.

Interrup-

MOOO!

One of my 3rd graders FAVORITE knock knock jokes.

Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 10:05:51am

Going Galt? Don’t forget the hoes.

Liberal Classic Thu, May 13, 2010 10:06:30am

re: #64 PT Barnum

I tried once, but decided to read something more enjoyable instead. Did you know that there are 324 varieties of earthworm in the world?

It can’t be worse than Ivanhoe.

PT Barnum Thu, May 13, 2010 10:06:33am

re: #59 Liberal Classic

I’ve never actually read anything by Ayn Rand, but with all the publicity here I may have to pick up a copy of Atlas Shrugged and read it out of spite. :P

Don’t buy a copy. Steal it from that socialist institution, your public library.

Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 10:06:49am

re: #63 Mad Al-Jaffee

I’m curious about it too, and I plan to read it one of these days so I can form my own opinion about it.

If you can make it past the first 100 pages I’ll buy you a sixpack.

Aceofwhat? Thu, May 13, 2010 10:06:55am

re: #55 Spare O’Lake

ALL LIVESTOCK JOKES MUST BE UDDERLY DEVASTATING!

car!

abbyadams Thu, May 13, 2010 10:07:05am

re: #67 PT Barnum

My children favor the interrupting starfish version. :-)

Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 13, 2010 10:07:17am

Will Everyone Please Stop Freaking Out Over Ayn Rand?!?

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 13, 2010 10:07:40am

re: #67 PT Barnum

One of my 3rd graders FAVORITE knock knock jokes.

Your 3rd grader is very advanced.

Mark Pennington Thu, May 13, 2010 10:08:09am

I love Lewis Black. He is an example of how age can benefit a comic persona. It’s funnier to watch a 61-year old man who’s perpetually sputtering at the inanities of the world around him than a 30-year old man doing the same thing.

Tigger2005 Thu, May 13, 2010 10:08:19am

I like Ayn Rand. I just think you have to take her with a grain of salt.

Not everyone can be a John Galt or a Howard Roark. But it’s certainly an ideal to aspire to—the pursuit of self-sufficiency, originality, absolute integrity. Rand recognizes that we are interdependent—Howard Roark cannot build the Wayland tower by himself, for example— but it would never occur to him to enslave other men to force them to build his vision. They must provide their labor and talents of their own free will in exchange for appropriate compensation. There is no place for dominating others in Rand’s philosophy.

I think people tend to oversimplify Rand. Unfortunately, that sometimes includes her supporters as well as her detractors.

Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 13, 2010 10:08:21am

re: #71 Cato the Elder

If you can make it past the first 100 pages I’ll buy you a sixpack.

I was an English major. I’m sure I had to read worse in college.

Kragar (Antichrist ) Thu, May 13, 2010 10:08:46am

re: #67 PT Barnum

One of my 3rd graders FAVORITE knock knock jokes.

My kids are still trying to get the delivery down. They’re too polite to interrupt.

Jadespring Thu, May 13, 2010 10:08:58am

re: #51 Fozzie Bear

It sort of reminds me of:
“Hey guys we’re going streaking through the quad!!! Who is coming with me??”

If it was only just streaking.

I’ve been doing quite a bit of googlesee on relocating to somewhere in Latin American, blogs, various websites and whatnot. I keep stumbling upon ‘going galt’ as a theme, especially in comments. It appears that there is certain segment of peeps looking into fleeing the ‘socialist, commie, pinko destruction in Obama’s America by ‘going Galt’ in central America. Costa Rica seems to be the most popular locale for the Galtians.

It’s interesting.

Spare O'Lake Thu, May 13, 2010 10:08:58am

re: #67 PT Barnum

One of my 3rd graders FAVORITE knock knock jokes.

Are you saying that you’ve herd that one before?

Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 10:09:06am

re: #78 Mad Al-Jaffee

I was an English major. I’m sure I had to read worse in college.

Wouldn’t bet on it.

PT Barnum Thu, May 13, 2010 10:09:37am

re: #75 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Your 3rd grader is very advanced.

He is MY son. The other day my wife was watching a John Travolta movie on Tv, and he walked in and said “Whatcha watchin’ mom?”
“Phenomenon” and with out missing a beat he sang out “Do do, do doo doot”

(If you don’t recognize it it’s the munamena song that they used in that dr pepper commercial a couple of years back)

PT Barnum Thu, May 13, 2010 10:10:23am

re: #79 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

My kids are still trying to get the delivery down. They’re too polite to interrupt.

LOL! That’s even funnier than the joke!

Interesting Times Thu, May 13, 2010 10:10:55am

re: #83 PT Barnum

He is MY son. The other day my wife was watching a John Travolta movie on Tv, and he walked in and said “Whatcha watchin’ mom?”
“Phenomenon” and with out missing a beat he sang out “Do do, do doo doot”

Youtube Video

PT Barnum Thu, May 13, 2010 10:10:58am

re: #81 Spare O’Lake

Are you saying that you’ve herd that one before?

Hey..stop trying to horn in on my pun action!

Cato the Elder Thu, May 13, 2010 10:11:31am

Not finishing “Atlas Shrugged” = coercitio interruptus.

Liberal Classic Thu, May 13, 2010 10:12:07am

re: #83 PT Barnum

Youtube Video

Four More Tears Thu, May 13, 2010 10:12:20am

I knew you couldn’t resist posting this. I don’t love all of Lewis Black’s segments, but this was pitch-perfect.

PT Barnum Thu, May 13, 2010 10:13:20am

re: #88 Liberal Classic

[Video]

I had never seen that…I don’t think my son had either, since that was done long before he was around.

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 13, 2010 10:13:31am

re: #83 PT Barnum

The kid’s a genius…

Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 13, 2010 10:14:00am

re: #83 PT Barnum

(If you don’t recognize it it’s the munamena song that they used in that dr pepper commercial a couple of years back)

Are you too young to remember the Muppet Show?

PT Barnum Thu, May 13, 2010 10:14:51am

re: #92 Mad Al-Jaffee

Are you too young to remember the Muppet Show?

No, but my son is…

Spare O'Lake Thu, May 13, 2010 10:15:25am

re: #86 PT Barnum

Hey..stop trying to horn in on my pun action!

How dairy you say such a thing!

Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 13, 2010 10:15:36am

re: #93 PT Barnum

No, but my son is…

Yes, but you’re the one who said it’s from a commercial! :)

Liberal Classic Thu, May 13, 2010 10:17:36am

re: #93 PT Barnum

No, but my son is…

There’s a newer muppet show that is in syndication on the Disney Channel.

Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 13, 2010 10:17:57am

re: #94 Spare O’Lake

How dairy you say such a thing!

Trying to milk this thread?

SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 13, 2010 10:18:08am

re: #54 Fozzie Bear

I think it would be fun to hand out free T-shirts to the homeless that say “gone Galt” on them. Then I realize that’s mean to the homeless people.

Some of them might appreciate the sarcasm.

Slap Thu, May 13, 2010 10:19:14am

re: #92 Mad Al-Jaffee

Old fart interjection —

Didn’t this originate in the ’60s, on like the Al Hirt show? (Part of me wants to say Ernie Kovacs, but I don’t think that’s right….) I know that I used to beg my parents to let me stay up late to watch the Jimmy Dean show, because Rolf the Muppet was a regular, and I loved Rolf….

Any other Lizard fossils remember this with more detail….?

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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 13, 2010 10:19:25am

re: #59 Liberal Classic

I’ve never actually read anything by Ayn Rand, but with all the publicity here I may have to pick up a copy of Atlas Shrugged and read it out of spite. :P

Only ever read Anthem. Didn’t care for it much.

A couple of times I have picked up Atlas Shrugged, or Fountainhead, and then I just think, why bother?

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Spare O'Lake Thu, May 13, 2010 10:20:02am

re: #97 Mad Al-Jaffee

Trying to milk this thread?

Manure really kicking my can!

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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 13, 2010 10:20:37am

re: #99 Slap

Old fart interjection —

Didn’t this originate in the ’60s, on like the Al Hirt show? (Part of me wants to say Ernie Kovacs, but I don’t think that’s right…) I know that I used to beg my parents to let me stay up late to watch the Jimmy Dean show, because Rolf the Muppet was a regular, and I loved Rolf…

Any other Lizard fossils remember this with more detail…?

I’m pretty sure I read a post on avclub.com that said it was originally from a European softcore porn movie in the 70s. I can’t access that at work (avclub, oh, also porn) so I can’t find the link right now.

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goddamnedfrank Thu, May 13, 2010 10:21:57am

re: #77 Tigger2005

I like Ayn Rand. I just think you have to take her with a grain of salt.

Not everyone can be a John Galt or a Howard Roark. But it’s certainly an ideal to aspire to—the pursuit of self-sufficiency, originality, absolute integrity. Rand recognizes that we are interdependent—Howard Roark cannot build the Wayland tower by himself, for example— but it would never occur to him to enslave other men to force them to build his vision. They must provide their labor and talents of their own free will in exchange for appropriate compensation. There is no place for dominating others in Rand’s philosophy.

I think people tend to oversimplify Rand. Unfortunately, that sometimes includes her supporters as well as her detractors.

Didn’t Roark dynamite a building and then defend himself at trial by arguing the value of ego?

You don’t get too much more dickishly domineering than that. “Oh, my poor little infantile ego can’t handle the subversion of my precious fucking vision, I’d better go dynamite a goddamned building out of spite.”

Sorry, that was probably an oversimplified assessment of an otherwise reasoned defense of ego-terrorism.

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euphgeek Thu, May 13, 2010 10:21:58am

re: #92 Mad Al-Jaffee

Or the Benny Hill Show?

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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 13, 2010 10:23:39am

re: #104 euphgeek

Or the Benny Hill Show?

No, you’re thinking of Yakety Sax.

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Spare O'Lake Thu, May 13, 2010 10:24:23am

This thread is so dead I’m gonna go puntificate somewhere else.

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euphgeek Thu, May 13, 2010 10:24:51am

re: #105 Mad Al-Jaffee

No, Benny Hill also did manamana during his sketches.

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Four More Tears Thu, May 13, 2010 10:25:31am

re: #103 goddamnedfrank

Amazing how domestic terrorism can be defended in such a popular book.

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PAUL_MACDONALD Thu, May 13, 2010 10:27:40am

re: #59 Liberal Classic

I’ve never actually read anything by Ayn Rand, but with all the publicity here I may have to pick up a copy of Atlas Shrugged and read it out of spite. :P

Best of luck to you. Not only is the underlying philosophy idiotic, but the writing is pedantic and the plots are convoluted to the point of absurdity.

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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 13, 2010 10:30:05am

re: #107 euphgeek

No, Benny Hill also did manamana during his sketches.

Oh yeah. I think I remember that. I was a big Benny Hill fan when I was a kid. Didn’t understand most of the humor, but I sometimes got to see boobies on tv!

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euphgeek Thu, May 13, 2010 10:31:20am

re: #110 Mad Al-Jaffee

No better reason to watch Benny Hill! :)

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Sacred Plants Thu, May 13, 2010 10:59:28am

re: #77 Tigger2005

There is no place for dominating others in Rand’s philosophy.

But only because that would be sacrilegous to her concept not to have any other lords besides the currency. Like Jack London more though, some of his characters would leave a Beck or Palin red-faced.

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...stephen Thu, May 13, 2010 1:19:04pm

AFAIK, the only (non-school-required) books my roommate has right now are Atlas Shrugged and Altered Carbon. We’ve exchanged maybe a hundred words this year and I have reason to believe he has no friends. Correlation?

… God, I’ll be sooo happy to move out of the dorms after this quarter…

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SteveB4 Thu, May 13, 2010 3:10:57pm

Somebody should do a documentary about the history of the nazi comparison as used throughout the last several presidencies. It would have to be a multi-part series, of course.

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Old Dragon Fri, May 14, 2010 4:07:06am

It’s rather instructive to consider that some of the very best commentary and interpretation is brought to us through “Comedy”.

We seem to live in an age of increasing hyperbole: everyone who does their job is deemed “a hero”, all mundane suffering is now “tragic”, and the Third Reich has become the standard for judging “evil efficiency”.

Sigh….

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Altermite Fri, May 14, 2010 12:10:04pm

re: #77 Tigger2005

I like Ayn Rand. I just think you have to take her with a grain of salt.

Not everyone can be a John Galt or a Howard Roark. But it’s certainly an ideal to aspire to—the pursuit of self-sufficiency, originality, absolute integrity. Rand recognizes that we are interdependent—Howard Roark cannot build the Wayland tower by himself, for example— but it would never occur to him to enslave other men to force them to build his vision. They must provide their labor and talents of their own free will in exchange for appropriate compensation. There is no place for dominating others in Rand’s philosophy.

I think people tend to oversimplify Rand. Unfortunately, that sometimes includes her supporters as well as her detractors.

Unless they are a female protagonist, in which case they really wanted it and had it coming in any case. That whole subplot was especially foul.

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