Birthers in the Tea Party Movement? Where?

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Remember when Joseph Farah of World Net Daily gave the opening night speech at the National Tea Party Convention in Nashville — a full tilt loony Birther rant that also advocated a Christian theocracy in the US — and got a standing ovation? Remember how Andrew Breitbart got out in front of the media, put up a big show of outrage, and said the tea party movement rejected Farah’s Birther craziness? Remember how the Tea Party organizers promised a press conference to denounce Farah’s speech — a press conference that never materialized?

Well, check out the announced speakers at the National Tea Party Unity Convention this July in Las Vegas: Joseph Farah and Andrew Breitbart.

Oh, and just to complete the Birther connection, the keynote speaker will be none other than nativist former CNN talking head Lou Dobbs.

Also a Birther.

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336 comments
1 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, May 16, 2010 11:42:23pm

Lou Dobbs is impossible to stomach. IMPOSSIBLE

2 Bagua  Sun, May 16, 2010 11:47:45pm

re: #1 WindUpBird

What do you know about birth, you were hatched!!11!!

3 TedStriker  Mon, May 17, 2010 12:06:32am

I blame the Tea Partiers for the record floods we just had, putting Gaylord Opryland (among other businesses) out of commission for the next few months...

/dripping

4 TedStriker  Mon, May 17, 2010 12:08:39am

re: #1 WindUpBird

Lou Dobbs is impossible to stomach. IMPOSSIBLE

If anyone tries to stomach Dobbs and the other Teabaggers, they better have a bunch of antacid on hand...I hear they'll give you an awful case of gas.

///

5 boxhead  Mon, May 17, 2010 12:11:35am

Have you ever tried to debate a birther? Weird.. There is a level of faith just like a religion. People I know who are intelligent still ask, "I wonder who paid for Obama's schooling" like Obama is a Manchurian candidate. In many people's eyes Obama is not just a politician. He is something dark. And something that inspires hatred.

sigh

6 Gus  Mon, May 17, 2010 12:18:24am

All I know is that I'm pretty surprised at how so many people I run into believe in some conspiracy or another. It's a cross section of society as well.

7 Irenicum  Mon, May 17, 2010 12:22:21am

Shocked! Shocked I tells ya! Oh wait, I'm not surprised by any crazy shit nowadays. And the bed and my sweet sweet pillow beckons. Seriously.

8 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, May 17, 2010 12:23:44am

re: #5 boxhead

Have you ever tried to debate a birther? Weird.. There is a level of faith just like a religion. People I know who are intelligent still ask, "I wonder who paid for Obama's schooling" like Obama is a Manchurian candidate. In many people's eyes Obama is not just a politician. He is something dark. And something that inspires hatred.

sigh

As with any system of belief, thre are those who are incapable of believing otherwise, which allows them to selectively reject reality when it does not fit their ideology.

But above them often sits a level of cynical bastards who know full well that they are promoting bullsh*t, but do so to advance their political and financial interests. They know how to manipulate the poor idiots.

9 boxhead  Mon, May 17, 2010 12:25:33am

re: #8 ralphieboy

True.... and what can we do about it? I am at a loss. It is frustrating....

10 teleskiguy  Mon, May 17, 2010 12:28:33am

They're gonna have the convention in Las Vegas, eh?

Not Chattanooga? Not in Lynchburg, VA? Not in Anchorage where they could get Saracudda to talk? Not in Indianapolis? These places make more sense to have a Tea Party Convention.

Las Vegas? That reminds me of the time when the GOP had their annual conference in Hawaii.

11 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, May 17, 2010 12:35:08am

re: #9 boxhead

True... and what can we do about it? I am at a loss. It is frustrating...


This is the Human Condition, it has existed long before Christianity and is not about to die out at any foreseeable time.

It is the way we think: we react to gut instincts and then retroactively rationalize our actions. Some of us learn to recognize the difference between our gut instincts and reason, although nobody can free themselves from it entirely.

At a gut level, we are all racists and sexists. Our perceptions of other human beings is affected by their appearance. It is just a matter of how we let these perceptions affect the way we treat these people, especially when it comes to denying them basic rights.

12 boxhead  Mon, May 17, 2010 12:47:07am

re: #11 ralphieboy

I would say we are affected by tribalism. We are comfortable with what we know. That is our base. But we have the ability to go beyond those limitations. Many do. Sadly not all.... But, as you mentioned above, some take advantage. That, is the human condition.....

13 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, May 17, 2010 12:53:22am

re: #12 boxhead

I would say we are affected by tribalism. We are comfortable with what we know. That is our base. But we have the ability to go beyond those limitations. Many do. Sadly not all... But, as you mentioned above, some take advantage. That, is the human condition...

Yes, these are gut reactions built into us over thousands of years: fear and suspicion of what is different. Ideologies based on these fears are often successful because they know how to exploit them.

14 freetoken  Mon, May 17, 2010 12:56:42am

re: #5 boxhead

... In many people's eyes Obama is not just a politician. He is something dark ...

Yup, that explains a lot of it.

15 freetoken  Mon, May 17, 2010 12:58:17am

re: #10 teleskiguy

They're gonna have the convention in Las Vegas, eh?

IIRC, they wanted to choose this city because the President, in their eyes, dissed it.

16 ryannon  Mon, May 17, 2010 1:00:40am

re: #8 ralphieboy

As with any system of belief, thre are those who are incapable of believing otherwise, which allows them to selectively reject reality when it does not fit their ideology.

But above them often sits a level of cynical bastards who know full well that they are promoting bullsh*t, but do so to advance their political and financial interests. They know how to manipulate the poor idiots.

BUY GOLD!

It's actually great advice (or was, two years ago). You just need to know when to bail before the bubble bursts. Steely-nerved types can also make make some serious money buying on the dips and selling at the peaks.

17 ClaudeMonet  Mon, May 17, 2010 1:05:01am

re: #16 ryannon

BUY GOLD!

It's actually great advice (or was, two years ago). You just need to know when to bail before the bubble bursts. Steely-nerved types can also make make some serious money buying on the dips and selling at the peaks.

Or selling to the dips. Which brings us back to the Tea Party and Birther folks.

re: #14 freetoken

You beat me to it. As soon as I read boxhead's comment, I knew exactly what to say.

18 ClaudeMonet  Mon, May 17, 2010 1:07:35am

re: #13 ralphieboy

Yes, these are gut reactions built into us over thousands of years: fear and suspicion of what is different. Ideologies based on these fears are often successful because they know how to exploit them.

Or fear and loathing, which brings us back to the Tea Party convention in Las Vegas.

19 Lidane  Mon, May 17, 2010 1:09:16am

On the upside, the media sent to cover all this bad crazy will have plenty of options for getting drunk or otherwise numbing the pain all that idiocy causes. That has to count for something.

20 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, May 17, 2010 1:34:40am

re: #18 ClaudeMonet

Or fear and loathing, which brings us back to the Tea Party convention in Las Vegas.


If only Doctor Gonzo were still with us, I would love to read about him crashng that party.

21 freetoken  Mon, May 17, 2010 1:37:22am

re: #20 ralphieboy

MP3 Audio
22 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, May 17, 2010 3:19:10am

Dead thread...

23 Boogberg  Mon, May 17, 2010 3:32:56am

Jeezus H Christ on a fucking tricycle. Has Lou Dobbs completely lost his mind? This shit is getting surreal.

24 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 17, 2010 3:34:42am

You think Charles was going for the Chris Farley in the "Chris Farley Show" on SNL there?

To Paul McCartney...

Chris; "Remember when you were in the Beatles?"
Paul; "Yes, Chris. Yes I remember that."
Chris; "Remember, you sang that song that said 'The love you take. Is equal to the love you make.'"?
Paul; "Yes, Chris."
Chris; "That was cool."

25 Taqyia2Me  Mon, May 17, 2010 3:36:35am

re: #24 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Lol!

26 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 17, 2010 3:38:14am

re: #25 Taqyia2Me

Oh, go back and read Charles thread story... use Chris' voice. Flipping hysterical.

27 Taqyia2Me  Mon, May 17, 2010 3:40:41am

re: #26 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I hear ya...it fits perfectly!

28 Taqyia2Me  Mon, May 17, 2010 3:43:09am

Except this isn't so much cool as it is funny...in a "sad clown" sort of way.

29 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 17, 2010 3:43:28am

Morning Taq. Just you and me. Clearly only one set of pants between us.

What should we do?

30 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, May 17, 2010 3:47:06am

Wedgies?

31 Taqyia2Me  Mon, May 17, 2010 3:49:58am

re: #29 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I ain't wearing them...the air is so...freeing!

32 Taqyia2Me  Mon, May 17, 2010 3:52:20am

No, not wedgies!

33 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, May 17, 2010 3:58:36am

Ye cannae wedgie a man inna kilt...

34 Taqyia2Me  Mon, May 17, 2010 4:08:20am

re: #33 ralphieboy

Especially iffn' there going commando!

35 Boogberg  Mon, May 17, 2010 4:12:40am

re: #33 ralphieboy

Get the Warp Drive back online, dammit.

36 rwdflynavy  Mon, May 17, 2010 4:14:31am

Good Morning Lizards,

I really don't understand the whole birth certificate silliness. Obviously Obama doesn't have one. If he is truly a shapeshifting lizard-like alien from Alpha Centauri, he obviously wouldn't have been "born" in the traditional sense. He must have been raised in a glass-enclosed pod that raised him and taught him American Politics on his way to Earth.

Jeez....

37 Spare O'Lake  Mon, May 17, 2010 4:14:54am

If the nirth certificate story was just going to go away, it would have left by now.
In defiance of all political sense it has apparently become a kind of lemming-like marching song for quite a few on the fringes of the right.
While I don't blame Obama and his supporters for allowing the nirthers to march over the political cliff, nevertheless at some point there really does need to be a stop to this nonsense.

38 Spare O'Lake  Mon, May 17, 2010 4:17:26am

Gotta run - BBL.

39 Boogberg  Mon, May 17, 2010 4:21:43am

Holy crap! It's raining in central Florida.

40 Taqyia2Me  Mon, May 17, 2010 4:24:27am

As for me...doesn't the very well established fact that President Obama's mother was a US citizen make him a citizen?

41 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, May 17, 2010 4:28:27am

re: #40 Taqyia2Me

As for me...doesn't the very well established fact that President Obama's mother was a US citizen make him a citizen?

Being born to a us US citizen automatically makes one eligible for citizenship, but the never-ending issue of the birthers is whether he was born in the USA in order that he be eligible to become President.

42 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 17, 2010 4:33:17am

Submit to your alien overlords and nirthers ain't no issue.

43 Taqyia2Me  Mon, May 17, 2010 4:36:15am

re: #41 ralphieboy

Being born to a us US citizen automatically makes one eligible for citizenship, but the never-ending issue of the birthers is whether he was born in the USA in order that he be eligible to become President.

Hmmm...my take was always: If you are born to a US citizen, you are therefore considered a natural citizen without regard to where the birth occurred.

44 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, May 17, 2010 4:43:16am

re: #43 Taqyia2Me

Hmmm...my take was always: If you are born to a US citizen, you are therefore considered a natural citizen without regard to where the birth occurred.

To tell you the truth, I am not sure: McCain ws born in the panama Canal Zone...does that make him ineligible?

In any case, I do know (from personal experience in registering a child born in Germany) you have to spend at least five years of your adult life in the USA in order be eligible to pass your citizenship along to a child born abroad.

45 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 17, 2010 4:50:47am

Good morning lizards!

46 Taqyia2Me  Mon, May 17, 2010 4:52:30am

re: #44 ralphieboy

I would say both were constitutionally eligible to be president.

47 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:09:01am

British MP recovering after being stabbed by Muslim woman

London, May 16 (IANS) British MP and former Labour minister Stephen Timms was in “good spirits” and recovering at a hospital here after a Muslim woman stabbed him at a meeting in his constituency.

A 21-year-old unemployed Muslim woman, Roshonara Choudhary, was arrested and charged with attempted murder after she stabbed Timms twice in the stomach at a meeting Friday afternoon in his East London constituency. She will appear before the Stratford Magistrates’ Court Monday.

Timms, 54, underwent surgery Saturday night at the Royal London Hospital and will be discharged from hospital in the next few days to recuperate at home, a spokesman for the hospital said Sunday.

A 22-year-old aide of Timms, Andrew Bazeley, had disarmed the woman, but was left covered in blood after he grabbed the knife.

“Thank God Andrew had the presence of mind to get the knife. He was very brave to do what he did,” Umesh Desai, Timms’ election aide and a local councillor was quoted as saying Sunday by Daily Mail.

“He’s a young guy and a very slim guy but he had the presence of mind to take the knife away. It’s awful to think what could have happened if he hadn’t been so brave,” Desai said, adding that Timms was “obviously shaken”.

Choudhary, who was wearing a Muslim dress, lunged at Timms and stabbed him twice before being restrained by Bazeley and a security guard.

Meanwhile, Scotland Yard said the accused was armed with two knives - one was found at the scene and the other was hidden in her clothes.

Police are studying CCTV footage, which shows the moment Timms collapses after the stabbing.

“The security guard had grabbed this Asian woman. She was wearing a long black outfit like what Muslims wear and an orangey headscarf. I think she was a Muslim,” Sagal Ahmed, 16, a student present at the site was quoted as saying.

“She wasn’t saying anything. They were just grabbing her to keep her still. She was really shaking. The woman seemed shocked and distressed,” she said.

The attack on Timms has shocked Britain’s Muslim community.

48 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:11:01am

Well, this is my weather report anyway...

Youtube Video
49 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:11:50am

re: #47 NJDhockeyfan

How they gonna protect themselves against the hijab thingy. You could hide a lot of stuff under there.

50 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:12:21am

re: #49 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I hope somebody says "Under where."

51 _RememberTonyC  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:14:28am

The GOP needs its adults to step up NOW ... they really do.

52 _RememberTonyC  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:15:33am

re: #50 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I hope somebody says "Under where."

Is a barenaked ladies song about to start playing?

53 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:15:36am

re: #49 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

How they gonna protect themselves against the hijab thingy. You could hide a lot of stuff under there.

I don't get it. Did she jab him or did hijab her?

54 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:16:07am

Hamas destroys dozens of homes in southern Gaza

RAFAH, Gaza Strip – Hamas police wielding clubs beat and pushed residents out of dozens of homes in the southern Gaza town of Rafah on Sunday before knocking the buildings down with bulldozers, residents said.

Gaza's militant Hamas rulers said the homes were built illegally on government land. Newly homeless residents were furious over Palestinians on bulldozers razing Palestinian homes.

For years, Palestinians have criticized Israel for destroying houses, mostly because they were built without permits issued by the military. Now, Rafah residents complained, their own government, run by the Islamic militant Hamas that seized power in Gaza in July 2007, has done the same.

"They promised reform and change — instead they've destroyed our homes," shouted Miasar Gan, a 54-year-old woman. Gan said she and her husband had nowhere else to go.

Do I detect buyers remorse?

55 laZardo  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:16:12am

re: #51 _RememberTonyC

The GOP needs its adults to step up NOW ... they really do.

Funny you mention that, because I just got my California absentee voting ballot stuff in the mail today and then I remembered that I am still officially registered Republican.

56 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:16:56am

re: #52 _RememberTonyC

You totally get me...

57 _RememberTonyC  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:17:32am

re: #55 laZardo

Funny you mention that, because I just got my California absentee voting ballot stuff in the mail today and then I remembered that I am still officially registered Republican.


i know you'll support the right candidates ...

58 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:18:17am

re: #55 laZardo

Funny you mention that, because I just got my California absentee voting ballot stuff in the mail today and then I remembered that I am still officially registered Republican.

You have the power to change the party.

59 _RememberTonyC  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:18:20am

re: #56 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You totally get me...

I "get" the veteran lizards .... the "hostile noobs?" Not so much ...

60 Ericus58  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:18:34am

re: #54 NJDhockeyfan

Hamas destroys dozens of homes in southern Gaza

Do I detect buyers remorse?

One can hope...

61 laZardo  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:19:28am

re: #57 _RememberTonyC

i know you'll support the right candidates ...

...even though I doubt anybody on the ballot isn't a Tea Partier in some form or another.

/and that's if I actually recognize the name. D:

62 laZardo  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:21:06am

re: #58 NJDhockeyfan

You have the power to change the party.

FTS, I keep forgetting to head to the embassy to go Green. And then I'll try to change THAT party.

63 _RememberTonyC  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:21:40am

re: #60 Ericus58

One can hope...


hopefully, but the world should watch this very closely. because after what we see hamas do to its own, is there really anyone out there who believes the Israelis will achieve peace in their region who is not either:

1. hopelessly naive
2. possibly a Jew hater
3. a moron

64 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:24:53am

Good morning, Infidels.

65 laZardo  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:28:31am

re: #64 Cannadian Club Akbar

Good morning, Infidels.

Youtube Video
66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:29:10am
Youtube Video
67 laZardo  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:34:40am

Reading over the ballot...

Secretary of State
Damon Dunn
Orly Taitz

Excuse me while I go punch something.

68 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:35:31am

Woody Allen supports Roman Polanski. Shocked I am!! A guy who sleeps with his step daughter supports a rapist. Fucking douche.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

69 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:36:08am

re: #67 laZardo

Reading over the ballot...

Excuse me while I go punch something.

Tell me that is a joke.

70 _RememberTonyC  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:38:09am

re: #68 Cannadian Club Akbar

Woody Allen supports Roman Polanski. Shocked I am!! A guy who sleeps with his step daughter supports a rapist. Fucking douche.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

so i guess you could say that polanski is "packing wood?"

71 laZardo  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:39:27am

re: #69 Cannadian Club Akbar

Tell me that is a joke.

Unfortunately, it isn't. And yes, I was shocked.

[fills in Damon Dunn's circle]

72 Taqyia2Me  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:42:04am

re: #63 _RememberTonyC

hopefully, but the world should watch this very closely. because after what we see hamas do to its own, is there really anyone out there who believes the Israelis will achieve peace in their region who is not either:

1. hopelessly naive
2. possibly a Jew hater
3. a moron

Amen.

73 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:42:53am

Short on Allah dollars
Ground Zero mosque team lacking funds amid bookkeeping chaos

Dreams by a Muslim group to build a mosque near Ground Zero may not match its means.

The ambitious and immediately controversial proposal to create the $100 million religious and cultural center does not seem to be backed by any cash.

The American Society for Muslim Advancement, which proposed the center, has assets of less than $1 million, according to its most recent audited financial statement.

A sister organization, the Cordoba Initiative, listed assets of less than $20,000 in 2008. Its tax filings do not disclose at least $60,000 in private contributions, a Post analysis found, raising questions about where the money went.

Deep-pocketed benefactors who have supported the groups in the past include the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal's Kingdom Foundation, the government of Qatar and the World Economic Forum. But some of the foundations have already backed away from the mosque, which is to be called Cordoba House.

74 bratwurst  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:45:36am

I knew that when he left CNN, Lou Dobbs wanted to get into politics in the worst way...but this is ridiculous!

75 PAUL_MACDONALD  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:47:52am

Lou is just "asking questions"...

I know this is a Beck parody, but it fits Lou

Cartman Does Beck

76 laZardo  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:50:57am

So I'm going through the Governor section and only one candidate (Larry Naritelli) is an apparent Tea Partier.

Meg Whitman, ex-eBay CEO looks interesting but I'm treading this minefield carefully.

77 laZardo  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:54:24am

re: #76 laZardo

So I'm going through the Governor section and only one candidate (Larry Naritelli) is an apparent Tea Partier.

Meg Whitman, ex-eBay CEO looks interesting but I'm treading this minefield carefully.

Tea Partiers Hate Meg Whitman.

Excellent.

78 Boogberg  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:55:11am

re: #47 NJDhockeyfan

That is not PC!

79 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:58:53am

re: #77 laZardo

You're voting in Cali?

80 laZardo  Mon, May 17, 2010 5:59:55am

re: #79 pingjockey

You're voting in Cali?

I turned 18 while I was living in Sacramento for community college. Changed to absentee when I moved to Manila.

81 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:02:14am

While Miss America is hot, she really needs some biscuits and gravy. Just sayin'.
[Link: content.usatoday.com...]

82 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:03:10am

re: #80 laZardo
Thanks. I was confused. You'd talked about the voting in Manila and I thought maybe you had dual citizenship!

83 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:03:59am

re: #81 Cannadian Club Akbar
Yup.

84 laZardo  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:04:44am

re: #82 pingjockey

Thanks. I was confused. You'd talked about the voting in Manila and I thought maybe you had dual citizenship!

Actually, I do. And am still expecting to be hauled off to Gitmo.

85 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:10:55am

re: #81 Cannadian Club Akbar

While Miss America USA is hot, she really needs some biscuits and gravy. Just sayin'.
[Link: content.usatoday.com...]

FIFY

BTW...is there any truth to the rumor that she supports Hezbollah? I would guess Hezbollah would frown on her exposing her body like that. I, however, support that.

86 Boogberg  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:12:53am

The Hezzies are some ruthless fuckers.

87 laZardo  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:13:17am

Mmkay... for Senator...

Chuck Devore and Al Ramirez are Tea Partiers...
Carly "Demon Sheep" Fiorina ruined HP...
Tom Campbell apparently isn't fiscally responsible...

...which leaves Tim Kalemkarian or a write-in.

88 erraticsphinx  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:17:21am

re: #87 laZardo

Kim Kardashian.

89 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:17:36am

Another reason to hate the Food Network. Giada is the only reason to like it.
[Link: www.popeater.com...]

90 laZardo  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:19:18am

re: #89 Cannadian Club Akbar

Another reason to hate the Food Network. Giada is the only reason to like it.
[Link: www.popeater.com...]

My little brother is a big fan of Robert "License to Grill" Rainford for some reason.

91 laZardo  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:24:54am

Gotta head to bed. Work (and finishing up that Sacramento County ballot) tomorrow, then grandma's funeral on Wednesday. THEN back to internship on Thursday and Friday and THEN worrying about my first cousin's suicide and when THAT will affect work.

Thank science for Zoloft.

Cheers.

92 Boogberg  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:27:25am

Walter was right yesterday. The markets are indeed opening. I'll be damned.

93 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:32:40am

Why wouldn't the markets open?

94 Political Atheist  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:33:02am

re: #87 laZardo

Tom has been slandered. He's worth another look, IMHO. He's likely getting my vote.

95 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:33:53am

re: #91 laZardo
Thoughts and prayers to you.

96 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:35:30am

Does the bloviating, pontificating, general nonsense and major ignorance of the SCOTUS nomination theatre start today?

97 McSpiff  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:35:49am

Morning scaly ones.

98 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:37:59am

"You Lied to Me, Jew Producer": Comedy Central Shocker

Recently, the Comedy Central TV network censored an episode of the popular South Park cartoon following threats from Islamic extremists offended at the show's portrayal of the Prophet Mohammad. But while Comedy Central was perceived to have caved in on a matter of free speech, it appears that the network exercises double standards when it comes to producing genuinely offensive material.

Currently appearing on Comedy Central's website is a game called "I.S.R.A.E.L. Attack!". The premise of this game has nothing to do with Israel and, as such, is nothing more than an insidious attempt at association. The game's introduction begins with a character who states:

You lied to me, Jew Producer

referring to a character who has failed to carry out a mission to destroy other child-like cartoon characters. If this piece of anti-Semitism isn't bad enough, a robot - the Intelligent Smart Robot Animation Eraser Lady - is sent to do the job that the Jew Producer failed to achieve.

The character openly calls the robot by its acronym - ISRAEL - and the association created by those behind this game is unmistakable - Israel the child killer.

The game then involves the robot destroying everything and everyone in its path, including children and animals.

99 McSpiff  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:40:15am

re: #98 NJDhockeyfan

"South Park is offensive. In other news, water is wet."

100 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:40:28am

re: #98 NJDhockeyfan

Well, the Israelis don't issue fatwas against cartoonists.

101 Boogberg  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:40:38am

re: #96 pingjockey

...not to mention some of the worst tap dancing (around issues) ever conceived.

102 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:42:00am

re: #101 Boogberg

Yeppers. Terrible dancing. Crappy acting. Just a crock as far as theatre of the absurd is concerned.

103 Boogberg  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:46:00am

re: #102 pingjockey

Indeed. It's six hours of back slapping and 20 minutes of issues.

104 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:46:46am

IMF: U.S. debt approaching 100% of GDP

The U.S. national debt will soon reach 100% of GDP, the IMF predicts in a new report.

The following graph shows the sharp rise in U.S. debt starting in around 2006. By 2015, the IMF suggests, debt could reach well over 100% of GDP.

The IMF predicts that the U.S. would need to reduce its structural deficit by the equivalent of 12% of GDP, a much larger portion than any other country analyzed except Japan. Greece, in the midst of a financial crisis, needs to reduce its structural deficit by just 9% of GDP, according to the IMF's analysis.

The report, released yesterday, also wades into the debate over healthcare reform, questioning the CBO's analysis that healthcare reform would reduce the U.S. deficit.

"There are some risks to the CBO estimates, however, including that the substantial decrease in Medicare payment rates to health care providers may prove difficult to implement," the report reads.

105 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:47:08am

re: #103 Boogberg

Our tax dollars at work!

106 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:48:34am

re: #104 NJDhockeyfan
New taxes ahead.
Buy gold!
Buy seeds!

107 Boogberg  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:52:04am

What is this Gold thing I keep hearing about?

108 rwdflynavy  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:54:42am

Buy GOLDEN SEEDS!!!11!!!

109 Spare O'Lake  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:56:06am

re: #104 NJDhockeyfan

Don't worry, be happy.

110 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:56:30am

re: #107 Boogberg
It's a joke on here. Check out Glen Becks' show. Every other commercial is an ad for buying gold of some kind. The seeds ad has went away. It was for buying waay overpriced seeds for your garden after society breaks down!

111 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:59:54am

re: #107 Boogberg

What is this Gold thing I keep hearing about?

Firms selling in investments in gold are some of the few businesses that will advertise of Glenn Beck's show. We often satirize Beck by putting in the essence of the overwrought commercials into the dialog. So "BUY GOLD!!1" is just a way of denoting Beck playing to Fox's pocketbook.

112 Boogberg  Mon, May 17, 2010 6:59:58am

re: #110 pingjockey

Oh for cryin' out loud. I shoulda known.

113 prairiefire  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:00:34am

Please met the new Miss USA, Rima Fakih[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

114 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:01:35am

re: #112 Boogberg
Heh. You have G. Gordon Liddy and the guy that was on Law and Order being the pitchmen for the gold companies.

115 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:02:18am

re: #113 prairiefire
Fatwa in 3..2...1... for being uncovered meat.

116 erraticsphinx  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:03:30am

re: #115 pingjockey

No fatwa so far. A lot of screeching from assorted insane harpies though.

117 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:04:22am

re: #116 erraticsphinx
About par for the course.

118 prairiefire  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:04:24am

re: #116 erraticsphinx

Yes, sad and predictable. There is an even hotter pix of her in lingerie I thought I saw. Looking...

119 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:05:29am

I hope the powers that be get her some really sharp security types. I'm not kidding here.

120 Interesting Times  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:07:24am

re: #118 prairiefire

This one? Muslim crowned Miss USA; Heads Exploding

121 Boogberg  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:08:23am

re: #114 pingjockey

You should buy gold coins from the US mint, yes? These scumbags selling wannabees should be regulated. Go buy a ten dollar gold piece from the US mint and see how much it is! :D

(it ain't $29.95)

122 darthstar  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:08:50am

re: #113 prairiefire

Please met the new Miss USA, Rima Fakih[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

First the White House, and now Miss USA? ///

The outrageous outrage is already coming...from the likes of Michelle Malkin.

Good morning, everyone.

123 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:09:39am

N. Korea Agrees to Syria's Shipment of Scud Missiles to Hezbollah: Sankei Shimbun


A Japanese daily reports that North Korea, a leading supplier of weapons of mass destruction, has agreed to Syria's shipment of long-range Scud missiles to the militant Lebanese Shiite group Hezbollah.

Syria is reportedly obliged to receive approval from North Korea, the technology provider, when handing over missiles to a third party.

Citing unidentified North Korean sources, Japan's Sankei Shimbun reports the North Korean embassy in Syria has announced it has "no intention to object to Syria's transfer of Scud missiles to Hezbollah."

The daily speculates that the model Syria plans to provide the Lebanese militant group with is the Scud D with a range of 700 kilometers.

124 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:09:45am

re: #121 Boogberg
Most of what these asshats are selling, IIRC is paper, not coins.

125 prairiefire  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:09:49am

Here you are, lizards. For your morning perusal.[Link: www.stylelist.com...]

126 Old Dragon  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:10:37am

Re: Teaparty convention.

"What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas"

Sigh...if only that slogan was true.

Old Dragon

127 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:10:46am

re: #120 publicityStunted

This one? Muslim crowned Miss USA; Heads Exploding

Hey, she's not wearing a burqa!

Stone the slut!

128 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:11:03am

re: #123 NJDhockeyfan
That is not a good thing.

129 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:12:05am

One of the articles I read said Miss USA went to a Catholic skool. Can't get that image out of my head.:)

130 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:12:10am

re: #125 prairiefire
Rowwwrrr! I expect the Mad Mullahs to be having fits, along with the right wing nutbars.

131 Spare O'Lake  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:12:49am
re: #113 prairiefire

Please met the new Miss USA, Rima Fakih[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

During the interview portion, Fakih was asked whether she thought birth control should be paid for by health insurance, and she said she believed it should because it's costly.

"I believe that birth control is just like every other medication even though it's a controlled substance," Fakih said.

Genius.

132 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:12:51am

re: #129 Cannadian Club Akbar
Hmmm....Now ya got my mind in the gutter!

133 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:13:39am

This didn't take long...

On Line Photos Claims To Show Miss USA 2010 Rima Fakih Dancing in a Striptease Contest!

DETROIT - One day after taking the title Miss USA 2010 a Detroit radio station is displaying pictures it says are of Rima Fakih dancing in a striptease contest!

The 24-year-old Arab-American from the state of Michigan beat out 50 other women to win the competition.

The radio station, Channel 995 Detroit, published a photo of Fakih dancing on a platform surrounded by other women.

The dance was part of a contest put on by the station called Mojo In The Morning ‘Stripper 101’.

The website says the photos were taken in 2007.

134 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:14:31am

re: #131 Spare O'Lake

Genius.

"...oh, and world peace!"

135 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:15:14am

re: #134 NJDhockeyfan
Whirled peas not world peace!

136 prairiefire  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:15:46am

I think Miss South Dakota might be the best thing to have ever come from South Dakota. Lots of pretty girls. I would say Miss Kansas and Missouri were middlin'.

137 Boogberg  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:15:51am

re: #124 pingjockey

I don't have a problem with a gold etf. I have a problem with these bogus coin ripoffs. I'd like to smack G. Gordon upside the head with my guitar.

138 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:16:00am

re: #135 pingjockey

Whirled peas not world peace!

She's a hippy too?

139 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:17:16am

re: #137 Boogberg

I don't have a problem with a gold etf. I have a problem with these bogus coin ripoffs. I'd like to smack G. Gordon upside the head with my guitar.

I've heard the gold commercial on every talk radio show and seen it on a lot of TV channels. I believe they are gold plated coins, not solid gold.

140 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:18:22am

re: #139 NJDhockeyfan

I've heard the gold commercial on every talk radio show and seen it on a lot of TV channels. I believe they are gold plated coins, not solid gold.

I bought gold from goldline in 2004. I got solid coins. They FedExed them to me.

141 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:18:23am

re: #137 Boogberg
Heh. G. Gordon is tougher than you think. He did hard time for Watergate, didn't go to a country club prison. I remember he played a real good bad guy on Miami Vice.

142 darthstar  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:18:50am

re: #133 NJDhockeyfan

This didn't take long...

On Line Photos Claims To Show Miss USA 2010 Rima Fakih Dancing in a Striptease Contest!

You should know better than to trust Fox news by now. Those stupid fucks give themselves away with the goddamn EXCLAMATION MARK!!! on their headline. Fuckin' Murdoch rags.

Anyway, I followed the link through the cesspool you sited, and yes, she's on stage...at a morning radio show dance off...it's not a full strip tease...it's all PG family values shit put on by morning DJs who, by the way, trend conservative.

Here's the pic for anyone interested...OMFGZ?

143 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:18:53am

re: #138 NJDhockeyfan
Heh.

144 Vambo  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:19:29am

re: #85 NJDhockeyfan

FIFY

BTW...is there any truth to the rumor that she supports Hezbollah?.

reading Debbie Schlussel again? LAME

145 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:20:26am

re: #142 darthstar
Sheesh. So she was dancing. Leastwise she didn't end up with a spread in Penthouse. However, it didn't seem to hurt Vanessa Williams acting career!

146 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:21:48am

re: #122 darthstar

First the White House, and now Miss USA? ///

The outrageous outrage is already coming...from the likes of Michelle Malkin.

Good morning, everyone.

Malkin seems to be setting the table for a nasty meme: That Miss Oklahoma, Morgan Woodlard, was the runner-up instead of the winner because she expressed support for the AZ immigration law. I can see that taking hold in the Wingnut-o-sphere as an "Outrageous Outrage that cheated a Real American on behalf of a Foreign [bigoted word]!!1".

147 Walter L. Newton  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:22:09am

re: #142 darthstar

You should know better than to trust Fox news by now. Those stupid fucks give themselves away with the goddamn EXCLAMATION MARK!!! on their headline. Fuckin' Murdoch rags.

Anyway, I followed the link through the cesspool you sited, and yes, she's on stage...at a morning radio show dance off...it's not a full strip tease...it's all PG family values shit put on by morning DJs who, by the way, trend conservative.

Here's the pic for anyone interested...OMFGZ?

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Image: 4449_12740900653.jpg

148 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:23:13am

That girl needs a samich.

149 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:23:29am

re: #147 Walter L. Newton

Image: 4449_12740900654.jpg

Image: 4449_12740900653.jpg

I like the second one. Dayum!

150 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:24:29am

Well, crap. So much for work. The 10 yr old is still coughing and has a low grade fever.

151 Boogberg  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:25:39am

re: #141 pingjockey

Well I didn't say he wasn't cool! :D

TV commercials are not the place to buy gold coins. We know it. HE knows it. That makes him even more of a scumbag.

152 Spare O'Lake  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:26:07am

I just can't tell you how much I hate these beauty pageants, they're so sexually exploitative.

153 erraticsphinx  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:26:29am

re: #146 Dark_Falcon

Ms. Oklahoma even mentioned states' rights in her answer defending the Arizona law. All the buttons have been pushed, we're just waiting for the flying monkeys to depart.

154 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:26:47am

re: #146 Dark_Falcon
It's gonna be real funny (not) seeing the mad mullahs and the fringers on the right on the same side. Those people, the right wingers have drove me mad. They have ran so far from where I am on the right it isn't funny.

155 darthstar  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:26:48am

re: #149 NJDhockeyfan

I like the second one. Dayum!

Dude...it's from your link.

156 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:28:05am

re: #149 NJDhockeyfan

I like the second one. Dayum!

It'll blow some Islamist minds, that's for sure. That said, it is a fairly slutty pose, IMO.

157 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:28:19am

re: #152 Spare O'Lake
I'm actually surprised that they still go on. Then again, they have those pageants for the little girls where they put a ton of makeup on them. That to me is just vile.

158 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:28:47am

re: #142 darthstar

You should know better than to trust Fox news by now.

Here's the pic for anyone interested...OMFGZ?

So Fox News is to blame for a radio station posting photos of this girl in a striptease contest? Obviously Fox News knew she would be Miss USA one day and had the radio station do a striptease contest with Rima Fakih in it. Congratulations, you've exposed Fox News!

159 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:29:31am

re: #153 erraticsphinx

Ms. Oklahoma even mentioned states' rights in her answer defending the Arizona law. All the buttons have been pushed, we're just waiting for the flying monkeys to depart.

With Malkin as the Wicked Witch of the West. That's no one ever throws cold water one her 'theories'; they'd melt!

160 McSpiff  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:29:47am

Want to buy gold? [Link: www.mint.ca...] ta-da!

Note:

*Pricing
Prices of gold and silver bullion products are based on international market rates which vary daily, as well as supply and demand. Be prepared for a reasonable premium to be charged over the daily spot quotations to cover manufacturing, transportation and distribution costs. The Mint does not guarantee lowest price, nor will the Mint match pricing of other bullion product distributors.

It is important to remember that investments in precious metals are subject to market volatility and involve a degree of risk to the investment principal and may not be suitable for all investors. Investment and investment decisions along with their associated risks and obligations are the sole responsibility of the investor. Precious metal products are not FDIC insured and may gain or lose value.

Notice the difference between the Royal Canadian Mint and the hucksters you see on the Glenn Beck show...

161 Walter L. Newton  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:30:25am

re: #152 Spare O'Lake

I just can't tell you how much I hate these beauty pageants, they're so sexually exploitative.

Which we have proof of, considering Trump had all the girls pose in lingerie and bedroom poses... why? That's never happened before, what's the point... over the last few years all hell has been breaking out over pictures showing up of some of these girls involved in "sexy" exploits. It seems like Trump is more interested in controlling the content, not how much skin the woman show, or how much "morals" the woman show.

162 erraticsphinx  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:30:43am

re: #156 Dark_Falcon

The Islamists will complain of course....just as soon as they've finished fapping.

163 darthstar  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:31:18am

re: #156 Dark_Falcon

It'll blow some Islamist minds, that's for sure. That said, it is a fairly slutty pose, IMO.

Slutty? Really? Oh, that's right, she's muslim. It's okay to use 'slutty' to describe her. (you're not the first, though)

164 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:31:34am

re: #161 Walter L. Newton
Trump is still running the show?

165 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:31:47am

re: #162 erraticsphinx

The Islamists will complain of course...just as soon as they've finished fapping.

Hopefully, the fapping makes the worst of them go blind. :D

166 erraticsphinx  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:32:13am

re: #163 darthstar

Um, that pose is slutty no matter what religion you are.

167 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:32:53am

I support slutty poses.

168 McSpiff  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:33:27am

I

169 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:33:33am

re: #163 darthstar
I'm surprised the Miss America pageant posed them in underwear! Swimsuits have been done since the 40s(?). But, as I call them...slinkys?!

170 Walter L. Newton  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:33:43am

re: #164 pingjockey

Trump is still running the show?

Yes... here is the "bedroom" photos he had the girls pose for...

[Link: www.tmz.com...]

171 McSpiff  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:34:26am

re: #168 McSpiff

I

I < 3 Slutty poses

172 Spare O'Lake  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:34:36am

re: #163 darthstar

Slutty? Really? Oh, that's right, she's muslim. It's okay to use 'slutty' to describe her. (you're not the first, though)

Is it politically incorrect to call a slut a slut?

173 Walter L. Newton  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:34:43am

re: #169 pingjockey

I'm surprised the Miss America pageant posed them in underwear! Swimsuits have been done since the 40s(?). But, as I call them...slinkys?!

This was the Miss USA contest, not Miss America... big difference.

174 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:35:16am

re: #170 Walter L. Newton
Saw that. After the uproar over Vanessa williams, you'd think soft porn would be right out. Ratings must've been sucking.

175 darthstar  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:35:41am

re: #153 erraticsphinx

Ms. Oklahoma even mentioned states' rights in her answer defending the Arizona law. All the buttons have been pushed, we're just waiting for the flying monkeys to depart.


Carrie Prejean (aka Miss California) pushed buttons last year with her comments on gay marriage. Most beauty contestants are conservatives and Republicans. If they weren't, they'd be in college.

176 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:35:58am

re: #173 Walter L. Newton
What is the difference? I don't know.

177 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:36:02am

re: #163 darthstar

Slutty? Really? Oh, that's right, she's muslim. It's okay to use 'slutty' to describe her. (you're not the first, though)

No, its not that she's Muslim. She's on a stripper pole with her legs spread to the crowd. In my eyes that's slutty pose, irregardless of the religion of the person striking said pose.

178 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:36:51am

re: #175 darthstar
IIRC, aren't most of these girls in college?

179 Walter L. Newton  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:36:57am

re: #163 darthstar

Slutty? Really? Oh, that's right, she's muslim. It's okay to use 'slutty' to describe her. (you're not the first, though)

Big leap on your part...

180 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:37:25am

re: #175 darthstar

Carrie Prejean (aka Miss California) pushed buttons last year with her comments on gay marriage. Most beauty contestants are conservatives and Republicans. If they weren't, they'd be in college.

Or college grads.

181 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:38:16am

re: #170 Walter L. Newton

Yes... here is the "bedroom" photos he had the girls pose for...

[Link: www.tmz.com...]

Great stuff. Very hot.

182 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:39:39am

re: #175 darthstar

Carrie Prejean (aka Miss California) pushed buttons last year with her comments on gay marriage. Most beauty contestants are conservatives and Republicans. If they weren't, they'd be in college.

Conservatives don't go to college? I didn't know that.

183 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:40:15am

re: #182 NJDhockeyfan

Conservatives don't go to college? I didn't know that.

I went to Hate U.
//

184 Locker  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:40:52am

re: #182 NJDhockeyfan

Conservatives don't go to college? I didn't know that.

Conservatives may go into college but they don't come out of college. ;)

185 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:41:12am

Halp! Walter brought this to my attention. What in hell is the difference between the Miss USA and Miss America Pageants?

186 McSpiff  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:41:13am

re: #182 NJDhockeyfan

Conservatives don't go to college? I didn't know that.

Well, they walk in conservative, walk out liberal. The liberal indoctrination machine dont'cha know?

//

187 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:42:06am

re: #184 Locker

Conservatives may go into college but they don't come out of college. ;)

Oh, I see. They are too dumb to graduate. So all of the graduates of colleges around the country are liberals.

The things you learn at LGF!

188 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:42:12am

re: #186 McSpiff
Heh. It's that frakkin' Kool Aid.

189 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:42:30am

re: #184 Locker

Conservatives may go into college but they don't come out of college. ;)

We quit because we make so much money selling weed to the libs.
///

190 Walter L. Newton  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:42:33am

re: #181 Dark_Falcon

Great stuff. Very hot.

Ok... I was not posting that link because the pictures are "very hot." I personally can't stand any exploitation of anyone due to their physical attributes, large, small, fat, skinny... what ever...

I posted that link in regards to the double standards I see here in regards to this pageant, Trump and the whole process.

191 darthstar  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:43:28am

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

No, its not that she's Muslim. She's on a stripper pole with her legs spread to the crowd. In my eyes that's slutty pose, irregardless of the religion of the person striking said pose.

Where I come from, healthy heterosexuals simply call it 'erotic' and are willing to admit that they do find women attractive and stimulating sometimes, without feeling the need to degrade them by calling them sluts. That's why people watch erotic displays like pole dances.

Oh, and the college comment was a joke, people. I'm sure most of these gals are either in college or going soon. Still, they are, by and large, more conservative which I do find ironic.

192 Locker  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:43:57am

re: #186 McSpiff

Well, they walk in conservative, walk out liberal. The liberal indoctrination machine dont'cha know?

//

At least one person got what I was trying to say. Good morning, evil Canadian.

193 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:44:13am

re: #190 Walter L. Newton

Ok... I was not posting that link because the pictures are "very hot." I personally can't stand any exploitation of anyone due to their physical attributes, large, small, fat, skinny... what ever...

I posted that link in regards to the double standards I see here in regards to this pageant, Trump and the whole process.

So noted.

194 ryannon  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:45:32am

re: #170 Walter L. Newton

Yes... here is the "bedroom" photos he had the girls pose for...

[Link: www.tmz.com...]

They all look the same to me: perfect legs, boobs and teeth. The faces are telling the same story: full of mediocrity and desperation and signifying nothing.

(Bah. Humbug.)

195 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:45:53am

re: #190 Walter L. Newton

Ok... I was not posting that link because the pictures are "very hot." I personally can't stand any exploitation of anyone due to their physical attributes, large, small, fat, skinny... what ever...

I posted that link in regards to the double standards I see here in regards to this pageant, Trump and the whole process.

It's a beauty pageant. They are supposed to be hot.

196 McSpiff  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:45:57am

re: #193 Dark_Falcon

So noted.

Still hot ;-)

197 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:45:58am

I've got ESPN on, not the news. Mariano Rivera gave up a grand slam yesterday. Mwahaha! Damn Yankees.

198 darthstar  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:46:17am

Okay folks...gotta run. Play nice.

199 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:46:45am

re: #198 darthstar
Why? :)

200 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:47:29am

re: #191 darthstar

Where I come from, healthy heterosexuals simply call it 'erotic' and are willing to admit that they do find women attractive and stimulating sometimes, without feeling the need to degrade them by calling them sluts. That's why people watch erotic displays like pole dances.

Oh, and the college comment was a joke, people. I'm sure most of these gals are either in college or going soon. Still, they are, by and large, more conservative which I do find ironic.

I don't mind the pictures of her in lingerie or bikinis at all. And the pics Walter linked to were also OK. But I found the pole dancing pic raw, vulgar, and over-the-top. Hence I thought it slutty. It's just my opinion, and I still feel she deserves the crown.

201 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:47:38am

re: #197 pingjockey

I've got ESPN on, not the news. Mariano Rivera gave up a grand slam yesterday. Mwahaha! Damn Yankees.

And the Rays won.:)

202 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:49:29am

re: #201 Cannadian Club Akbar
Rays have the best record in baseball. Yaaay. They beat my Mariners like a gong.

203 Walter L. Newton  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:49:45am

re: #200 Dark_Falcon

I don't mind the pictures of her in lingerie or bikinis at all. And the pics Walter linked to were also OK. But I found the pole dancing pic raw, vulgar, and over-the-top. Hence I thought it slutty. It's just my opinion, and I still feel she deserves the crown.

IT'S ALL EXPLOITIVE... period.

204 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:50:48am

re: #203 Walter L. Newton
Walter, what is the difference in the 2 pageants?

205 Walter L. Newton  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:51:13am

re: #204 pingjockey

Walter, what is the difference in the 2 pageants?

I don't know.

206 Spare O'Lake  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:51:31am

re: #191 darthstar

Where I come from, healthy heterosexuals simply call it 'erotic' and are willing to admit that they do find women attractive and stimulating sometimes, without feeling the need to degrade them by calling them sluts. That's why people watch erotic displays like pole dances.

Give me a break. Where I come from, men watch women do pole dances to get their rocks off...the sluttier the better.

207 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:52:24am

re: #205 Walter L. Newton
Oh, you said up above there was a big difference. Trump runs one, I guess that would be one.

208 McSpiff  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:52:43am

re: #206 Spare O'Lake

Give me a break. Where I come from, men watch women do pole dances to get their rocks off...the sluttier the better.

Where I come from, most night clubs have poles. Not a huge deal.

209 Walter L. Newton  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:53:22am

re: #206 Spare O'Lake

Give me a break. Where I come from, men watch women do pole dances to get their rocks off...the sluttier the better.

I'm going to go polish some rocks... turquoise, leopard skin jasper, Mexican lace agate... some desert ironwood...

Be in and out of LGF...

210 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:54:19am

re: #209 Walter L. Newton
Walter!....you'll go blind! :)

211 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:55:15am

re: #210 pingjockey

Walter!...you'll go blind! :)

I'll stop when I need glasses!!

212 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:57:27am

re: #211 Cannadian Club Akbar
Mwahahaha!

213 Spare O'Lake  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:57:33am

re: #208 McSpiff

Where I come from, most night clubs have poles. Not a huge deal.

Not a huge deal at all.
Sluttiness is a very sexually stimulating image, projected by a talented erotic dancer.
Just calling out the PC.

214 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 17, 2010 7:59:07am

re: #152 Spare O'Lake

I just can't tell you how much I hate these beauty pageants, they're so sexually exploitative.

My wife was watching it. As soon as she turned the corner heading to bed? I changed the channel. Deadliest Warrior was on. Think I was going to miss that?

215 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:01:13am

re: #208 McSpiff

Where I come from, most night clubs have poles. Not a huge deal.

Pole Dancers Rock!

216 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:01:14am

re: #214 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Did you see the episode where they had the simulated fighter cockpit? The fighter pilot had no trouble, the other poor guy they put in, blew his lunch and couldn't walk!

217 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:01:18am

In lurk mode for a little bit...

218 McSpiff  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:02:36am

re: #217 Dark_Falcon

In lurk mode for a little bit...

Ditto. Unless anyone here is a genius with pmos transistors.

219 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:03:17am

Hamas destroys dozens of homes in southern Gaza

Hamas police wielding clubs beat and pushed residents out of dozens of homes in the southern Gaza town of Rafah on Sunday before knocking the buildings down with bulldozers, residents said.

Gaza's militant Hamas rulers said the homes were built illegally on government land. Newly homeless residents were furious over Palestinians on bulldozers razing Palestinian homes.

For years, Palestinians have criticized Israel for destroying houses, mostly because they were built without permits issued by the military. Now, Rafah residents complained, their own government, run by the Islamic militant Hamas that seized power in Gaza in July 2007, has done the same.

"They promised reform and change — instead they've destroyed our homes," shouted Miasar Gan, a 54-year-old woman. Gan said she and her husband had nowhere else to go.

220 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:03:18am

re: #216 pingjockey

What were they doing? That was on Deadliest Warrior?

Love that show...

221 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:05:10am

Nap time. BBIAB.

222 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:05:17am

The Muslim student who was asking David Horowitz questions on the video posted last week in which she supported genocide responded to the event.

On Monday I confronted David Horowitz

So earlier on Monday this week David Horowitz came out to speak at University of California San Diego for Israel Apartheid Week. The event was hosted by Young Americans for Freedom, which are your basic, Reagan fellating college republicans. Anyways, it was the usual imperialist, apologetic bullshit that Horowitz spits out in defense of the state of Israel. Later on though he took questions, and just today I found out that someone recorded mine and put it up on youtube:

Youtube Video

I asked him about some statements he had made about how the MSA had financial connections to "jihadist terrorists". Of course he couldn't back his bullshit up, so he just squirmed around and accused me of being a terrorist, lol.

So I figure we could use this thread to discuss how pathetic David and others of his Ilk are for trying to defend one of most oppressive states in modern history. Also, good strategies on how to confront these cowards and show them for the worms they are. Death to Israel.

223 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:06:42am

re: #220 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Yep. They had one of those gyroscope for people, with a keyboard and had a fighter pilot, then one of their warriors do some stuff while the gyro was spinning in 3 dimensions. It was cool. The one we had on here last night, the samurai guy put two arrows in the eyes of the simulated
viking.

224 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:07:17am

re: #216 pingjockey

Did you see the episode where they had the simulated fighter cockpit? The fighter pilot had no trouble, the other poor guy they put in, blew his lunch and couldn't walk!

Speaking of fighter pilots...

Celebrated World War II flying ace dies in Calif.

NEWPORT BEACH, Calif. – Walker "Bud" Mahurin, a fighter pilot who shot down two dozen planes in two wars and was regarded as one of America's top aces ever, has died, his wife said Sunday. He was 91.

Joan Mahurin said Bud Mahurin died of natural causes at his home in Newport Beach on Tuesday.

She said her husband kept flying small planes — and kept receiving fan mail — for most of his life.

"He would get letters from teenagers to old war veterans," Joan Mahurin said.

Doug Lantry, a historian at the National Museum of the United States Air Force in Ohio, said Mahurin's name is familiar to all in the Air Force.

"Bud Mahurin was the only Air Force pilot to shoot down enemy aircraft in the European theater of operations and the Pacific and in Korea," Lantry told the Los Angeles Times. "He was known as a very courageous, skilled and tenacious fighter pilot."

Mahurin was shot down himself, twice during World War II and once in the Korean War, which led to his capture and 16 traumatic months in a prison camp.

A native of Benton Harbor, Mich., Mahurin studied engineering at Purdue University then joined the Army Air Forces in September 1941 — three months before Pearl Harbor.

He went by the call sign "Honest John," a title he'd later adopt for his memoirs.

A true American hero. RIP.

225 [deleted]  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:07:55am
226 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:09:09am

re: #225 pingjockey

We don't say that anymore here...

227 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:09:24am

re: #224 NJDhockeyfan
That generation is going away very quickly. Heroes they were.

228 Boogberg  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:09:28am

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

Did someone say "irregardless"?

SMACK! :D

229 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:10:03am

re: #226 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
We don't?! Okay. Sheesh, go away sick for awhile.

230 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:12:14am

re: #229 pingjockey

Welcome back...

231 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:16:31am

re: #230 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Thanks. I guess I can understand. No, I take that back. The girl was a fool and terribly misguided. But I suppose being run over by a bulldozer isn't something to make fun of.

232 Taqyia2Me  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:17:14am

re: #222 NJDhockeyfan

The Muslim student who was asking David Horowitz questions on the video posted last week in which she supported genocide responded to the event.

On Monday I confronted David Horowitz

Just when you thought it wasn't possible to be more clueless...

233 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:18:48am

re: #37 Spare O'Lake

If the nirth certificate story was just going to go away, it would have left by now.
In defiance of all political sense it has apparently become a kind of lemming-like marching song for quite a few on the fringes of the right.
While I don't blame Obama and his supporters for allowing the nirthers to march over the political cliff, nevertheless at some point there really does need to be a stop to this nonsense.

'Allowing'? You think Obama could STOP them?

You have more faith in the man than I do.

234 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:19:53am

re: #224 NJDhockeyfan

A true American hero. RIP.

Youtube Video
236 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:20:33am

re: #233 SanFranciscoZionist
Heh. There is no power on earth that will dissuade those idiots from their Moby Dick.

237 Crimsonfisted  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:20:35am

Perfect thread for an birth OT:
Grand Baby #4 born 1:06 EST Sunday. 21 HOUR LABOR, she went in the previous afternoon to be delivered.

I wanted to share!

238 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:21:04am

re: #236 pingjockey

That is an excellent analogy.

239 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:21:12am

re: #237 Crimsonfisted
Congratulations!

240 Taqyia2Me  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:21:28am

re: #237 Crimsonfisted

Perfect thread for an birth OT:
Grand Baby #4 born 1:06 EST Sunday. 21 HOUR LABOR, she went in the previous afternoon to be delivered.

I wanted to share!

Congrats!

241 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:21:44am

re: #85 NJDhockeyfan

FIFY

BTW...is there any truth to the rumor that she supports Hezbollah? I would guess Hezbollah would frown on her exposing her body like that. I, however, support that.

I'm not even considering it until I hear it from a source other than Debbie Schlussel and friends.

242 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:21:47am

re: #237 Crimsonfisted

Perfect thread for an birth OT:
Grand Baby #4 born 1:06 EST Sunday. 21 HOUR LABOR, she went in the previous afternoon to be delivered.

I wanted to share!

Mazal tov!

243 Boogberg  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:22:10am

re: #235 Killgore Trout

Not sure that's a good idea.

244 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:22:31am

re: #241 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm not even considering it until I hear it from a source other than Debbie Schlussel and friends.

Even if she "supports Hezbollah" Hezbollah does not support her.

245 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:23:15am

re: #122 darthstar

First the White House, and now Miss USA? ///

The outrageous outrage is already coming...from the likes of Michelle Malkin.

Good morning, everyone.

It's the MISS USA contest.

246 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:24:02am

re: #238 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Why, thank you. I hope the Army absolutely fries that asshat who's refusing to take orders because he thinks the CinC is not a citizen. The fool is a nirther. A Lt. Col. no less.

247 McSpiff  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:24:28am

Supreme Court: Sex offenders can be held indefinitely

The Supreme Court ruled Monday the federal government has the power to indefinitely keep some sex offenders behind bars after they have served their sentences, if officials determine those inmates may prove "sexually dangerous" in the future.

"The federal government, as custodian of its prisoners, has the constitutional power to act in order to protect nearby (and other) communities from the danger such prisoners may pose," Justice Stephen Breyer wrote for the 7-2 majority.

248 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:25:38am

re: #146 Dark_Falcon

Malkin seems to be setting the table for a nasty meme: That Miss Oklahoma, Morgan Woodlard, was the runner-up instead of the winner because she expressed support for the AZ immigration law. I can see that taking hold in the Wingnut-o-sphere as an "Outrageous Outrage that cheated a Real American on behalf of a Foreign [bigoted word]!!1".

Schlussel was already on that last night.

It's a beauty pageant! A bunch of girls in bathing suits talking about world peace and smiling a lot!

249 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:25:49am

Sad news from the music world...Ronnie James Dio has passed away...

Ronnie James Dio, Rock Singer, Dies at 67

Ronnie James Dio, a singer with the bands Rainbow, Black Sabbath and Dio, whose powerful, semioperatic vocal style and attachment to demonic imagery made him one of the best-loved figures in classic heavy metal, died on Sunday morning, according to an announcement on his Web site by his wife, Wendy. He was 67.

No cause was given in the announcement, but Mr. Dio had been suffering from stomach cancer, and recently his band Heaven and Hell canceled its summer tour because of his health. The Houston Chronicle reported that Mr. Dio was being treated at a hospital in Houston.

250 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:25:57am

re: #247 McSpiff
Hmmm.... The wife read a article yesterday or a comment about testing makeup, vaccines, etc.. on pedophiles instead of animals.

251 Vambo  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:26:17am

re: #235 Killgore Trout

Noam Chomsky denied entry into Israel: report

"I suggested [the interrogator try to] find any government in the world that likes anything I say," Chomsky said

good point, Chom!

252 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:26:46am

re: #249 NJDhockeyfan
Damn. That dude could sing.

253 McSpiff  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:27:57am

re: #247 McSpiff

So, presumably, if they've already served their sentence, they have no grounds for appeal or parole? I'm very uncomfortable with this ruling…

254 Boogberg  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:28:13am

re: #249 NJDhockeyfan

With all my bad habits, I'm hoping to live that long. RIP Ronnie

255 Vambo  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:29:20am

listening to Holy Diver now.

YOU'VE GOT THE POWER

256 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:29:39am

re: #231 pingjockey

Thanks. I guess I can understand. No, I take that back. The girl was a fool and terribly misguided. But I suppose being run over by a bulldozer isn't something to make fun of.

She jumped in front of a bulldozer. She should at least get a Darwin Award for her efforts.

257 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:29:48am

re: #248 SanFranciscoZionist

Schlussel was already on that last night.

It's a beauty pageant! A bunch of girls in bathing suits talking about world peace and smiling a lot!

Agreed, but that won't stop some people from calling Rima Fakih's win an example of "MUSLIM IMPERIALISM!!1".

258 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:30:24am

re: #244 Alouette

Even if she "supports Hezbollah" Hezbollah does not support her.

Oh, but Debbie has worked it all out. It's 'Hezbo taqqiyah' (I wish none of these loons had learned that word.) They, in fact, not only support her, but paid for her run, and intimidsted the opposition.

What Debbie thinks Hezbollah has to gain by putting a ringer in the Miss USA pageant remains thoroughly unclear.

259 cliffster  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:31:10am

weekend is over. blah

260 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:32:23am

re: #257 Dark_Falcon

Agreed, but that won't stop some people from calling Rima Fakih's win an example of "MUSLIM IMPERIALISM!!1".

You know, if Muslim imperialism leads to a world in which hot Lebanese girls enter beauty pageants, that really doesn't sound all that bad.

261 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:33:39am

re: #253 McSpiff
I think this ruling is a direct result of the recidivism of the pedophiles. That said, if someone has completed their sentence, how can we legally keep them locked up? I don't want those people on the street.

262 zora  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:33:42am

re: #258 SanFranciscoZionist

don't know if anyone posted this...

[Link: www.danielpipes.org...]

Affirmative Action in Beauty Contests?

what an asshole.

263 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:34:32am

re: #256 NJDhockeyfan
IIRC, she got one. But I'm not really sure.

264 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:34:48am

re: #262 zora

don't know if anyone posted this...

[Link: www.danielpipes.org...]

Affirmative Action in Beauty Contests?

what an asshole.

I'm starting to see some racist jerkiness peeping around from behind the self-righteous wall of political analysis.

265 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:35:10am

re: #258 SanFranciscoZionist
Who is this Debbie Schussel?

266 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:36:10am

re: #265 pingjockey

Who is this Debbie Schussel?

Wingnut pundit. Hates everyone, especially Muslims and Sarah Palin. And me, of course.

267 Stanghazi  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:36:56am

re: #264 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm starting to see some racist jerkiness peeping around from behind the self-righteous wall of political analysis.

Yep. Me too.

268 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:37:32am

re: #266 SanFranciscoZionist
Aha. Hates Mislims, Sarah Palin and Zionists? Or just you as a Zionist?
That is quite the collection.

269 McSpiff  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:38:00am

re: #261 pingjockey

I think this ruling is a direct result of the recidivism of the pedophiles. That said, if someone has completed their sentence, how can we legally keep them locked up? I don't want those people on the street.

Not a lawyer here, but wouldn't the proper solution to be "modify the sentence"? Make a life sentence be until dead. I'm pretty adamant about the idea that you're given a sentence by the Judge at your trial, you go to jail, you follow the rules, you get released according to your original sentence. The idea that the executive can over rule the Judicial against you (as opposed to a pardon) totally rubs me the wrong way.

Way too easy to play politics with people's lives otherwise.

270 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:38:36am

re: #267 Stanley Sea

Yep. Me too.

Lebanese girls are famously beautiful, and there's that whole French cultural influence. I really don't know what's so surprising to these folks.

Actually, I suspect she's threatening to them because the last thing they want is Muslims demonstrating that they can integrate into American society. Just the act of doing that undermines a key point on the wingnut agenda.

271 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:39:26am

re: #269 McSpiff
Yeah. I agree. I have a 10 yr old and I don't want those perverts out either.

272 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:39:48am

re: #268 pingjockey

Aha. Hates Mislims, Sarah Palin and Zionists? Or just you as a Zionist?
That is quite the collection.

No, just me personally. She's popped up on this site twice to fuss at me when I suggested her website wasn't a good source for facts.

I have no idea why she bothers. I'm not exactly a big name.

273 cliffster  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:39:49am

re: #253 McSpiff

So, presumably, if they've already served their sentence, they have no grounds for appeal or parole? I'm very uncomfortable with this ruling…

I'm a guy that supports pretty much anything when it comes to punishing pedophiles. But if they've done their sentence, they've done their sentence. Some arbitrary decision by one person to keep him in jail indefinitely is fucked up. Same thing as the suspending of constitutional rights for citizen terrorists - purely emotional reaction to a highly charged issue. Hotter heads prevailing.

274 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:40:23am

re: #264 SanFranciscoZionist

I didn't know she was Muslim.

Wanna know a sin? Cover that up with a burka.

275 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:41:28am

re: #272 SanFranciscoZionist
Hmmm. Well, you must be doing something right! Is she really that much of a loon? I've heard the name and that's about it. Schussel that is.

276 wrenchwench  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:42:01am

re: #272 SanFranciscoZionist

No, just me personally. She's popped up on this site twice to fuss at me when I suggested her website wasn't a good source for facts.

I have no idea why she bothers. I'm not exactly a big name.

You got cred around here.

277 cliffster  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:44:43am

re: #272 SanFranciscoZionist

You damn liberal ;)

278 Spare O'Lake  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:45:50am

re: #233 SanFranciscoZionist

You are probably right. Even if Obama produced the original certificate of live birth showing Hawaii as his place of birth, it would probably stir up more controversy and accusations among the nirthers.

279 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:46:26am

re: #262 zora

don't know if anyone posted this...

[Link: www.danielpipes.org...]

Affirmative Action in Beauty Contests?

what an asshole.

Hot babes do not need affirmative action to win beauty contests. They should have affirmative action for fat girls.

280 Spare O'Lake  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:51:02am

re: #264 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm starting to see some racist jerkiness peeping around from behind the self-righteous wall of political analysis.

It is outrageous for Pipes to suggest that there is affirmative action in beauty contests without so much as a shred of evidence.

281 McSpiff  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:52:02am

re: #271 pingjockey

Yeah. I agree. I have a 10 yr old and I don't want those perverts out either.

re: #273 cliffster

I'm a guy that supports pretty much anything when it comes to punishing pedophiles. But if they've done their sentence, they've done their sentence. Some arbitrary decision by one person to keep him in jail indefinitely is fucked up. Same thing as the suspending of constitutional rights for citizen terrorists - purely emotional reaction to a highly charged issue. Hotter heads prevailing.

I'd have no problem if the law was modified such that a Judge could pass a sentence like

"You will serve at least 10 years in a state penitentiary. At such time you're ability to re-enter society will be assessed by a panel duly appointed for that purpose. If you are not found fit, you will remain in prison. You will have the opportunity to be re-assessed every two years. "

The idea that the executive can unilaterally decide years later that a sentence was not adequate just totally seems like an end run around the Judicial and Legislative branch.

According to Wikipedia that's how Canada does it ([Link: en.wikipedia.org...] . I'm surprised, we constantly hear how we're soft on crime...

282 _RememberTonyC  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:53:07am

re: #85 NJDhockeyfan

FIFY

BTW...is there any truth to the rumor that she supports Hezbollah? I would guess Hezbollah would frown on her exposing her body like that. I, however, support that.

think of how the burka has denied such beauty to the world ... islamists suck.

283 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:53:25am

re: #273 cliffster

I'm a guy that supports pretty much anything when it comes to punishing pedophiles. But if they've done their sentence, they've done their sentence. Some arbitrary decision by one person to keep him in jail indefinitely is fucked up. Same thing as the suspending of constitutional rights for citizen terrorists - purely emotional reaction to a highly charged issue. Hotter heads prevailing.

On this issue, they will prevail. Part of the problem is that even at trial it can be uncertain if the person can be gotten to stop molesting. If it turns out that they can stop (and some people can) then frankly ten years in prison is sufficient punishment for their crime. However, some people cannot stop and thus need to be held in custody for life. It's not a good solution, but it may be the 'least-worst' one currently available.

284 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:54:50am

re: #281 McSpiff

I'd have no problem if the law was modified such that a Judge could pass a sentence like

"You will serve at least 10 years in a state penitentiary. At such time you're ability to re-enter society will be assessed by a panel duly appointed for that purpose. If you are not found fit, you will remain in prison. You will have the opportunity to be re-assessed every two years. "

The idea that the executive can unilaterally decide years later that a sentence was not adequate just totally seems like an end run around the Judicial and Legislative branch.

According to Wikipedia that's how Canada does it ([Link: en.wikipedia.org...] . I'm surprised, we constantly hear how we're soft on crime...

That would work as a solution for me.

285 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:57:00am

re: #284 Dark_Falcon

That would work as a solution for me.

But the Supreme Court has decided that it is unconstitutional. That's why America uses civil commitment, we are not allowed the Canadian option.

286 McSpiff  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:57:47am

re: #283 Dark_Falcon

The idea that we're punishing people on what they might do is a very dangerous precedent.

That, for me is the difference between giving an indefinite sentence at initial trial, and turning a finite sentence into an indefinite one when the risk of reoffending is apparent. The punishment needs to be tied to a specific crime, and in my mind the only legitimate way that can occur is at trial.

287 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:58:56am

re: #282 _RememberTonyC

think of how the burka has denied such beauty to the world ... islamists suck.

If she supports Hezbollah, does that maker her a Hezbian?

288 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:59:24am

re: #287 ralphieboy

If she supports Hezbollah, does that maker her a Hezbian?

SMACK!

289 McSpiff  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:00:18am

re: #285 Dark_Falcon

But the Supreme Court has decided that it is unconstitutional. That's why America uses civil commitment, we are not allowed the Canadian option.

So, its unconstitutional to sentence someone to an indefinite sentence, but it is constitutional to...keep someone in prison indefinitely. That seems ass backwards to me. Yet another reason im not a lawyer.

290 Stanghazi  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:03:33am

Where in the world is this "supporting Hezbollah" stuff coming from?

Debbie Schussel?

Bad judgment/taste to be repeating it.

291 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:05:40am

re: #290 Stanley Sea
But it's so much fun to whack her for being an ass!

292 Virginia Plain  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:06:29am

Debbie Schlussel is crazy. She accuses all sorts of people of being pro-jihadi, even when they are not. She's gone after people such as Steve Emerson and Daniel Pipes. These two are definitely not pro-jihadi.

293 Crimsonfisted  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:08:33am

Thank you all! (at work, can't post frequently)

294 Reginald Perrin  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:08:49am

This may burst Debbie Schussel's bubble.

Rima Fakih, from Dearborn, Michigan, is believed to be the first Muslim to win the pageant despite nearly stumbling over in her evening gown last night.

Born in Lebanon, she emigrated with her parents to the U.S. as a baby. She was raised in New York and attended a Catholic school.
Winner takes all: Lebanese immigrant Rima Fakih is crowned Miss U.S.A. in Las Vegas last night. She is thought to be the first Muslim woman ever to win the competition

Miss Fakih told pageant judges that her family celebrates both the Christian and the Muslim faiths.

Link

295 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:09:27am

re: #292 Virginia Plain

[Link: www.danielpipes.org...]

Alouette posted this earlier.

296 Spare O'Lake  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:10:09am

re: #294 Reginald Perrin

Mixed marriage, I presume.

297 SpaceJesus  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:10:21am

Dale Peterson for Alabama Agriculture Commissioner

[Link: hotair.com...]


lol

298 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:10:27am

re: #275 pingjockey

Hmmm. Well, you must be doing something right! Is she really that much of a loon? I've heard the name and that's about it. Schussel that is.

Look at her website, and you'll get a sense of her. She's, to my mind, a sensationalist with a lot of axes to grind.

299 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:11:38am

re: #295 pingjockey

[Link: www.danielpipes.org...]

Alouette posted this earlier.

zora posted the link, I just commented on it.

300 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:11:52am

re: #298 SanFranciscoZionist
Will do. Should I take just hip waders or do I need a hazmat suit?!

301 Spare O'Lake  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:11:54am

re: #295 pingjockey

[Link: www.danielpipes.org...]

Alouette posted this earlier.

Nothing there. Not a shred of evidence. Pipes is over the line.

302 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:12:31am

re: #299 Alouette
Thanks. I didn't see Zora had posted it.

303 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:12:43am

re: #294 Reginald Perrin

This may burst Debbie Schussel's bubble.

Link

Reggie, you really do need to vacate that beachside apartment you've got inside "snork's" head. He just put up a thread about sexual injuries and went on a hater rant against several posters here. That bondage thread from Thursday really got under their skin over there apparently.

304 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:12:53am

re: #301 Spare O'Lake
Agree totally.

305 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:13:35am

re: #278 Spare O'Lake

You are probably right. Even if Obama produced the original certificate of live birth showing Hawaii as his place of birth, it would probably stir up more controversy and accusations among the nirthers.

Hasn't he already done that? Hawaii has produced the documents several times, to no effect.

306 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:14:38am

re: #294 Reginald Perrin

This may burst Debbie Schussel's bubble.


Link

She'll brush that aside--just more 'taqqiyah'.

307 Locker  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:14:39am

re: #303 Dark_Falcon

Reggie, you really do need to vacate that beachside apartment you've got inside "snork's" head. He just put up a thread about sexual injuries and went on a hater rant against several posters here. That bondage thread from Thursday really got under their skin over there apparently.

More Bondage!

308 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:15:12am

re: #300 pingjockey

Will do. Should I take just hip waders or do I need a hazmat suit?!

Galoshes will do.

309 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:15:57am

re: #308 SanFranciscoZionist
Thanks.

310 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:16:29am

re: #297 SpaceJesus

Dale Peterson for Alabama Agriculture Commissioner

[Link: hotair.com...]

lol

It's actually a pretty good ad. There's red meat there, but it stays entirely within the bounds of legit issues. Plays to stereotypes a good bit with the hat, horse, farm, and Winchester lever action but its still good and makes a good point.

311 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:16:46am

re: #303 Dark_Falcon

Reggie, you really do need to vacate that beachside apartment you've got inside "snork's" head. He just put up a thread about sexual injuries and went on a hater rant against several posters here. That bondage thread from Thursday really got under their skin over there apparently.

Bizarre people over there.

312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:16:51am

re: #289 McSpiff

Personally. I don't think pedophilia had occurred to the Founding dudes. They would've had somethin' special in the constitution cooked up special for pedophiles.

313 webevintage  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:16:52am

Not sure if anyone has posted this before but The New Yorker has a story this month (?) on Andrew Breitbart.
[Link: www.newyorker.com...]

Morning everyone!

314 Reginald Perrin  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:18:32am

re: #303 Dark_Falcon

Reggie, you really do need to vacate that beachside apartment you've got inside "snork's" head. He just put up a thread about sexual injuries and went on a hater rant against several posters here. That bondage thread from Thursday really got under their skin over there apparently.

The silly stalker is upset with me because I challenged the faith based scientist to a debate on climate change and he put his barbed tail between his legs and ran away.
Why would a well educated scientist be afraid to debate a simple uneducated person like me?

315 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:21:07am

re: #312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Personally. I don't think pedophilia had occurred to the Founding dudes. They would've had somethin' special in the constitution cooked up special for pedophiles.

I'm sure they were aware of it, but pre-mid-twentieth century, sex crimes were understood very differently, and I assume also that the Founders (TM), would have simple assumed that someone who raped a child would be hanged, and no longer their problem.

In some few ways, the eighteenth century was a simpler time.

316 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:22:51am

re: #314 Reginald Perrin
You just lost me. Faith based scientist? Faith is the intangible and science is the tangible, I thought. Granted, when you get to quantum physics, there's a load of intangibles, but they're based on solid physics.

317 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:23:11am

Checking the Blogmocracy thread now. Totally baffled as to what the point is supposed to be.

God these folks are lame.

318 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:25:59am

re: #315 SanFranciscoZionist

Amen, sister.

319 McSpiff  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:25:59am

re: #315 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm sure they were aware of it, but pre-mid-twentieth century, sex crimes were understood very differently, and I assume also that the Founders (TM), would have simple assumed that someone who raped a child would be hanged, and no longer their problem.

In some few ways, the eighteenth century was a simpler time.

That's just it, isn't it? We don't we just hang pedophiles now?

320 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:26:51am

re: #294 Reginald Perrin

This may burst Debbie Schussel's bubble.


Link

"Miss Fakih told pageant judges that her family celebrates both the Christian and the Muslim faiths."

You mean these people have a Clash of Cultures going on in their own living room at regular intervals?!?

/

321 Locker  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:27:03am

re: #312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Personally. I don't think pedophilia had occurred to the Founding dudes. They would've had somethin' special in the constitution cooked up special for pedophiles.

Yea like castration. Fuck with kids, lose your nutsack.

322 Reginald Perrin  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:27:09am

re: #316 pingjockey

You just lost me. Faith based scientist?

I was referring to individuals who deny science because it conflicts with their narrow literal interpretation of the bible. Things like the earth is 6000 years old and the sun orbits the earth.

323 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:28:15am

re: #322 Reginald Perrin
Got ya! I thought you meant the person was a real scientist that was faith based. It didn't compute!

324 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:30:54am

re: #321 Locker

Well, that. Then the hanging?

325 pingjockey  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:35:57am

Going up

326 rwdflynavy  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:36:25am

re: #321 Locker

Yea like castration. Fuck with kids, lose your nutsack.

Unfortunately, this won't stop some pedophiles. Permanent incarceration or exectution is the only thing...

327 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:36:53am

re: #326 rwdflynavy

Hence the hanging....

328 What, me worry?  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:38:48am

re: #322 Reginald Perrin

I was referring to individuals who deny science because it conflicts with their narrow literal interpretation of the bible. Things like the earth is 6000 years old and the sun orbits the earth.

Oh dear.... the earth is flat too??

I don't know what frightens me more. Delirious "faith based science" or people who would make mock beautiful Rima, like Dan Pipes and say it was all staged. F* them.

329 ryannon  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:49:00am

re: #219 Killgore Trout

Hamas destroys dozens of homes in southern Gaza

It was the Jewish branch of Hamas what did it.

330 ryannon  Mon, May 17, 2010 9:57:16am

re: #250 pingjockey

Hmmm... The wife read a article yesterday or a comment about testing makeup, vaccines, etc.. on pedophiles instead of animals.


Dr. Mengele much?

331 ryannon  Mon, May 17, 2010 10:09:13am

re: #319 McSpiff

That's just it, isn't it? We don't we just hang pedophiles now?

From the end of hydraulic cranes, in public?

332 Boogberg  Mon, May 17, 2010 10:26:03am

If I had to be executed, I think I'd want a lethal injection. Soylent Green style.

333 ryannon  Mon, May 17, 2010 10:29:57am

re: #332 Boogberg

If I had to be executed, I think I'd want a lethal injection. Soylent Green style.

Alas, Boogberg.

Burp.

334 boxhead  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:39:50pm

re: #13 ralphieboy

Yes, these are gut reactions built into us over thousands of years: fear and suspicion of what is different. Ideologies based on these fears are often successful because they know how to exploit them.

One of the "beliefs" I hold is that there are more good folks in this world than not. More that would not take advantage or exploit others even if the option was there. We should be able to wield a mighty force.

Or am I just a dreamer?

335 boxhead  Mon, May 17, 2010 8:40:42pm

re: #14 freetoken

Yup, that explains a lot of it.

lol... pun was unintentional.. but good one

336 ClaudeMonet  Mon, May 17, 2010 10:39:28pm

re: #237 Crimsonfisted

Perfect thread for an birth OT:
Grand Baby #4 born 1:06 EST Sunday. 21 HOUR LABOR, she went in the previous afternoon to be delivered.

I wanted to share!

Fantastic! I hope baby, mother, father, et al are well.


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