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1 darthstar  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:05:59pm

You're a weather personality, not a scientist. Brilliant! (he says with his best British accent)

2 Varek Raith  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:07:20pm

"...patent crap..."
Heh.

3 windsagio  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:07:21pm

I think everyone is a bit gun-shy about climate threads now >>

4 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:07:26pm

re: #1 darthstar

You're a weather personality, not a scientist. Brilliant! (he says with his best British accent)

I'm a football personality....a Super Bowl hero

5 Reginald Perrin  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:10:28pm

If they make assertions completely unsupported by scientific research chances are they're not a real expert, they just play one on TV

6 Bagua  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:13:12pm

re: #3 windsagio

I think everyone is a bit gun-shy about climate threads now >>

Ya think? ~~

7 darthstar  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:14:29pm

But my metallurgist says Global Warming isn't real!

8 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:14:41pm

re: #6 Bagua

Ya think? ~~

I'm ready for some fire and brimstone....a good guilt projection sermon

9 Nervous Norvous  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:15:57pm

re: #1 darthstar

You're a weather personality, not a scientist. Brilliant! (he says with his best British accent)

Damn it! I'm a DOCTOR not a climatologist!

10 Bagua  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:16:09pm

re: #8 albusteve

I'm ready for some fire and brimstone...a good guilt projection sermon

Sorry, I'm on sabbatical.

11 darthstar  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:16:35pm

re: #9 PT Barnum

Damn it! I'm a DOCTOR not a climatologist!

That reminds me, I need to see my geophysicist about my indigestion.

12 Nervous Norvous  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:17:17pm

re: #1 darthstar

You're a weather personality, not a scientist. Brilliant! (he says with his best British accent)

My proctologist gets confused and thinks he's a planetologist sometimes. He says "There are giant gas rings around Uranus!"

13 Reginald Perrin  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:17:39pm

re: #3 windsagio

I think everyone is a bit gun-shy about climate threads now >>

Not everyone is shy about climate change threads. I look forward to them and am pretty sure Ludwig isn't the least bit shy when it comes to this subject.

14 darthstar  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:18:00pm

re: #12 PT Barnum

My proctologist gets confused and thinks he's a planetologist sometimes. He says "There are giant gas rings around Uranus!"

Just don't let him nibble on your nebula.

15 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:18:18pm

the vid is a smoking gun...like a USS Missouri broadside...I'd love to hear some rebutt

16 Spare O'Lake  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:19:35pm

re: #3 windsagio

I think everyone is a bit gun-shy about climate threads now >>

WHY WOULD YOU THINK THAT, YOU STUPID MORON!!!

17 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:20:28pm

re: #16 Spare O'Lake

WHY WOULD YOU THINK THAT, YOU STUPID MORON!!!

hi Lud...sup?

18 windsagio  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:20:32pm

re: #16 Spare O'Lake

OMG!

19 Gus  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:20:50pm

And now for something completely different.

"As a gynecologist with over 28 years of practice I hereby proclaim that global warming is indeed a hoax.

Sincerely,

Dr. Elvis Presley, OB/GYN"

/

20 sngnsgt  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:20:51pm

re: #12 PT Barnum

My proctologist gets confused and thinks he's a planetologist sometimes. He says "There are giant gas rings around Uranus!"

Ba-dat-boom

21 Nervous Norvous  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:21:00pm

re: #11 darthstar

That reminds me, I need to see my geophysicist about my indigestion.

What are you, a Horta?

22 brookly red  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:21:34pm

re: #3 windsagio

I think everyone is a bit gun-shy about climate threads now >>

yup

23 Charles Johnson  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:21:34pm

The 'top kill' is happening right now on that live feed...

24 Gus  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:21:51pm

re: #7 darthstar

But my metallurgist says Global Warming isn't real!

Well, I know a soils engineer and he doesn't think that airplane will fly!

/

25 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:22:00pm

re: #22 brookly red

yup

nope

26 darthstar  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:22:16pm

re: #23 Charles

The 'top kill' is happening right now on that live feed...

Watching the CNN feed on another window...this had better fuckin' work, or we're going to be in even deeper shit for the next generation or so.

27 darthstar  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:22:50pm

re: #22 brookly red

yup

re: #25 albusteve

nope

*burp*

28 Charles Johnson  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:23:04pm

There's a lot of crap gushing out right now. I hope that's not as bad as it looks.

29 brookly red  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:23:40pm

re: #25 albusteve

nope

/duck season.

30 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:23:48pm

re: #26 darthstar

Watching the CNN feed on another window...this had better fuckin' work, or we're going to be in even deeper shit for the next generation or so.

we will anyway...for the next gen, gas will be $8 per gallon and little alternative...

31 darthstar  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:24:00pm

re: #24 Gus 802

Well, I know a soils engineer and he doesn't think that airplane will fly!

/

That's only because his astronomer doesn't believe in internal combustion.

32 Charles Johnson  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:24:03pm

Because it looks like it sprung several new leaks. Unless we're looking at a different section than we saw earlier.

33 Bagua  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:24:31pm

re: #28 Charles

There's a lot of crap gushing out right now. I hope that's not as bad as it looks.

The question being how much of that is mud and how much is oil. This claims to be a live feed from the riser leak and looks to be mostly oil.

34 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:25:04pm

re: #31 darthstar

That's only because his astronomer doesn't believe in internal combustion.

internal combustion is the gastronomy field

35 darthstar  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:26:28pm

re: #30 albusteve

we will anyway...for the next gen, gas will be $8 per gallon and little alternative...

I'm not worried about paying $8 a gallon. Hell, I'd welcome it as it would encourage people to buy more economical cars and get those fuckin' gigantic SUVs off the road. And maybe, just maybe, we'd get some infrastructure funding to put quality rail transit in all of the major population corridors around the country (Except the flyover states...someone has to suffer).

36 Bagua  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:26:45pm

re: #32 Charles

Because it looks like it sprung several new leaks. Unless we're looking at a different section than we saw earlier.

It should have increased pressure because of the mud injection. Also, the mud will erode the metal and increase the leaks. It won't much matter because if the mud kill fails they will cut off the bit we see leaking.

37 darthstar  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:28:13pm

re: #28 Charles

There's a lot of crap gushing out right now. I hope that's not as bad as it looks.

I think that's mud coming back up. I wonder if they stopped injecting dispersants while they're doing this top-kill. One would think those chemicals could dilute the clogging stuff.

38 Charles Johnson  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:29:39pm
39 Bagua  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:30:37pm

re: #37 darthstar

I think that's mud coming back up. I wonder if they stopped injecting dispersants while they're doing this top-kill. One would think those chemicals could dilute the clogging stuff.

The dispersants were injected at the broken riser, what we are seeing is right above the BOP.

40 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:30:39pm

re: #35 darthstar

I'm not worried about paying $8 a gallon. Hell, I'd welcome it as it would encourage people to buy more economical cars and get those fuckin' gigantic SUVs off the road. And maybe, just maybe, we'd get some infrastructure funding to put quality rail transit in all of the major population corridors around the country (Except the flyover states...someone has to suffer).

That's almost what we pay in Europe, although a bit less now that the euro has taken a dip - only around $6.50 at today's rate.

In any case - as for the thread topic: we are cealing with people who cannot tell the difference between a science textbook and a collection of myths and folk tales from the Middle East - how can they tell a scientist from an ideologue?

41 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:31:12pm

put a 75ton concrete and steel box over the damn thing, with a pipe running back up to the surface...dump it in a tanker, problem solved

42 darthstar  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:31:45pm

Uh-oh...my crazy Uncle Harry just got bit by a bug in the Mafia Wars game on facebook...his status posts are sometimes humorous, but facebook shouldn't fuck with his Mafia Wars...

ON FURTHER REVIEW ALL CARS & ALL WEOPONS ALL NEW BANGKOK LOOT 10000ATTACK & 10000 DEFENCE ALL GONE THAT IS TOTAL FN. BULLSHIT IM GOING TO E MAIL THEM EVERY 5 MINS MAKE LIFE MISERABLE FOR THEM THAY NEVER ANS PHONE 1HR 11 MINS

43 Four More Tears  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:32:34pm

Any plans they announce from here on will be heard by me in the voice of Baldric if this doesn't work.

"I have a cunning plan..."

44 Nervous Norvous  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:32:43pm

re: #42 darthstar

Uh-oh...my crazy Uncle Harry just got bit by a bug in the Mafia Wars game on facebook...his status posts are sometimes humorous, but facebook shouldn't fuck with his Mafia Wars...

I just got the Mafia Wars monkey off my back, and just in time to spend more time fishing

45 Four More Tears  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:33:50pm

re: #44 PT Barnum

I just got the Mafia Wars monkey off my back, and just in time to spend more time fishing

I almost thought you were going to say "farming," as in Farmville.

46 Political Atheist  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:33:54pm

re: #41 albusteve

They tried that it iced up and failed.

47 Nervous Norvous  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:34:05pm

Well I'm off to go after the fearsome bluegill.

48 darthstar  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:34:06pm

re: #44 PT Barnum

I just got the Mafia Wars monkey off my back, and just in time to spend more time fishing

I've deleted all my crops on Island Paradise. I built a tennis court for the terrapins and kiwis, and haven't touched it in a week...no more stupid fb games for me.

49 darthstar  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:34:24pm

re: #47 PT Barnum

Well I'm off to go after the fearsome bluegill.

oh, love bluegill...great tasting fish.

50 Nervous Norvous  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:34:46pm

re: #45 JasonA

I almost thought you were going to say "farming," as in Farmville.

Never got bit by that.. I read an article about facebook games and skinner boxes and it cured me of the affliction.

51 darthstar  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:35:15pm

re: #41 albusteve

put a 75ton concrete and steel box over the damn thing, with a pipe running back up to the surface...dump it in a tanker, problem solved

They tried that...compressed methane and cold temps create ice which blocks the pipe.

52 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:36:45pm

re: #46 Rightwingconspirator

They tried that it iced up and failed.

didn't know that...then heat the damned thing

53 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:38:53pm

re: #49 darthstar

oh, love bluegill...great tasting fish.

there is a 13 1/2 in gill in a bait shop back in Kalamazoo...biggest I ever saw by a couple of inches at least....it's pure black, except along it's belly

54 Bagua  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:38:58pm

re: #52 albusteve

didn't know that...then heat the damned thing

If this fails, the next cap is smaller, so less water to make the hydrates, and also more solvent will be injected. The other one was too big to work.

55 Gus  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:40:02pm

It's like watching the BOP Yule Log.

/

56 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:40:13pm

re: #54 Bagua

If this fails, the next cap is smaller, so less water to make the hydrates, and also more solvent will be injected. The other one was too big to work.

my wife used to tell me that bigger is definitely not better....yowza!

57 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:41:45pm

re: #45 JasonA

I almost thought you were going to say "farming," as in Farmville.

I do not touch FB apps or games or quizzes ever since they started turning you into roadkill for the personal information crows on the data highway.

58 Stanghazi  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:43:15pm

re: #55 Gus 802

It's like watching the BOP Yule Log.

/

LOL, so true

59 Stanghazi  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:44:59pm

re: #49 darthstar

oh, love bluegill...great tasting fish.

My first fish! With a bobber.

60 Gus  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:46:03pm

re: #58 Stanley Sea

LOL, so true

It needs some music...

61 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:46:14pm

re: #59 Stanley Sea

My first fish! With a bobber.

check these out...maybe 10in giants
Image: bluegills.jpg

that's a nice fish with super light tackle

62 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:47:12pm

re: #60 Gus 802

It needs some music...


[Video]

awww!.....BARF!

63 Gus  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:47:55pm

re: #62 albusteve

awww!...BARF!

64 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:50:19pm

re: #63 Gus 802

[Video]

better, my dad used to sing that....he did a killer Sinatra impersonation

65 Gus  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:51:03pm

re: #64 albusteve

better, my dad used to sing that...he did a killer Sinatra impersonation

Final song from Dr. Strangelove as well.

66 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:52:45pm

re: #65 Gus 802

Final song from Dr. Strangelove as well.

my dad used to whistle the breaks and bridges...man, I miss that guy sometimes, just an outstanding person

67 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:55:34pm

The oil leak looks to have gotten worse in the past 30 minutes.

68 darthstar  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:56:04pm

Heh...COPS - Racial Profiling Edition

69 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 3:58:47pm

re: #67 Killgore Trout

The oil leak looks to have gotten worse in the past 30 minutes.

I'm not too confident with this neanderthal experiment...just a shame there is no way to deal with it, other than primitive mud pumping...whoever figures out how to deal with this type of situation will be a millionaire and the race is on I hope

70 Stanghazi  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:00:20pm

re: #68 darthstar

Heh...COPS - Racial Profiling Edition


[Video]

Idiot Florida State Seminoles!

71 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:00:59pm

re: #68 darthstar

Heh...COPS - Racial Profiling Edition


[Video]

so when the cops go down into ABQs south valley and patrol, looking for suspicious activity, they are racist profilers...that's fine with me

72 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:03:12pm

re: #70 Stanley Sea

Idiot Florida State Seminoles!

pathetic attempt at humor

73 Stanghazi  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:03:41pm

re: #72 albusteve

pathetic attempt at humor

huh? I'm talking about the chicks from FSU. Idiots.

74 allegro  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:04:21pm

This is hilarious!

This site was developed by House Republicans as part of an official effort to increase the dialogue between Americans and their Congress. Here, Americans are provided a new platform to share their priorities and ideas for a national policy agenda.

A few examples:

Thank God that the Rent-a-Boy website works better than this one.

Skin-tone paint-swatch style color cards at gun shops. Must be "taupe" or lighter to purchase firearms.

It's ironic that Muslims get all upset about cartoons depicting Mohammed, but we have to put up with millions of illegals named "Jesus." Just because they pronounce it differently doesn't make it any less disrespectful. There was only one Jesus, and you can be sure that he wouldn't illegally sneak into a country and drain its resources and commit crimes and take away jobs. I think we should deport every illegal claiming to be named after our Lord, or at least make them change their names.

constitutional amendment to make women not speak out on church topics like it says in leviticus

In the 20th Century as women's roles in the work place increased so has the suffrage of women. It is time to end this vicious cycle and outlaw women's suffrage forever.

I think someone should investigate why Republicans aren't posting on this website.

75 darthstar  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:04:25pm

Fake BP Twitter page - apparently, it's got more followers than BP's official twitter page does.

Samples:

Funny, no one has thanked us for seasons 3-15 of Treme yet.

The ocean looks just a bit slimmer today. Dressing it in black really did the trick! #bpcares

Just took a company tour of the Gulf Coast and of course Terry decides to pee in the ocean! LOL! #bpcares

Just found Terry throwing mud at the ocean. You got to love his enthusiasm but I'm starting to think he doesn't deserve his 700k a year.

76 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:05:30pm

re: #69 albusteve

yea, it's not looking good.

77 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:05:36pm

got my Bonnaroo ticket today, anybody in Tennessee want to let me borrow their house next month?

78 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:05:57pm

re: #73 Stanley Sea

huh? I'm talking about the chicks from FSU. Idiots.

didn't see them...my bad I guess

79 sattv4u2  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:06:43pm

re: #77 SpaceJesus

got my Bonnaroo ticket today, anybody in Tennessee want to let me borrow their house next month?

You have no pull with Al Gore?

80 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:06:54pm

re: #77 SpaceJesus

got my Bonnaroo ticket today, anybody in Tennessee want to let me borrow their house next month?

who are the headliners?

81 darthstar  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:06:56pm

re: #77 SpaceJesus

got my Bonnaroo ticket today, anybody in Tennessee want to let me borrow their house next month?

I went to Bonnaroo a couple of years in a row...great fest. Just remember, when it's pouring rain at midnight and you're on all fours throwing up because you ate too many mushrooms, you paid good money for the experience...enjoy! (I did)

82 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:07:34pm

re: #79 sattv4u2

You have no pull with Al Gore?

Gore gets 'pulled' enough

83 Stanghazi  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:08:26pm

re: #78 albusteve

didn't see them...my bad I guess

You are forgiven.

84 sattv4u2  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:08:32pm

re: #81 darthstar

DON'T EAT THE BROWN ACID!!

(sorry ,,1969 flashback)

85 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:09:02pm

re: #84 sattv4u2

DON'T EAT THE BROWN ACID!!

(sorry ,,1969 flashback)

it's timeless

86 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:09:26pm

re: #80 albusteve

who are the headliners?

not sure who the official ones are, but Weezer, Tenacious D, Stevie Wonder, Jimmy Cliff, Rise Against, Dropkick Murphys, and They Might Be Giants are playing on the main stage.

this is gonna kick ass

87 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:10:35pm

re: #86 SpaceJesus

not sure who the official ones are, but Weezer, Tenacious D, Stevie Wonder, Jimmy Cliff, Rise Against, Dropkick Murphys, and They Might Be Giants are playing on the main stage.

this is gonna kick ass

Jeff Beck...
[Link: www.bonnaroo.com...]

88 darthstar  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:12:17pm

re: #84 sattv4u2

DON'T EAT THE BROWN ACID!!

(sorry ,,1969 flashback)

It's not that bad...go ahead, eat it.

89 Summer Seale  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:13:36pm

re: #23 Charles

The 'top kill' is happening right now on that live feed...

It looks like "slow mess" to me. But then again, I'm not an offshore scientist or engineer. And they did say it'll take 24 hours to know, now. But just calling it like I see it - it looks like a frigging mess right now.

90 Bagua  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:14:07pm

Those slits in the riser above the BOP are definitely holes now. The effect of the high pressure mud eroding the metal. Probably made the leak inside the BOP bigger as well.

91 Stanghazi  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:14:16pm

re: #87 albusteve

Jeff Beck...
[Link: www.bonnaroo.com...]

The Flaming Lips performing Dark Side of the Moon featuring Stardeath and White Dwarfs

92 darthstar  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:14:40pm

re: #86 SpaceJesus

not sure who the official ones are, but Weezer, Tenacious D, Stevie Wonder, Jimmy Cliff, Rise Against, Dropkick Murphys, and They Might Be Giants are playing on the main stage.

this is gonna kick ass

Disco Biscuits are doing a 3-5am show...check it out.

93 Bagua  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:17:05pm

Zee leak, she is getting worser.

94 sattv4u2  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:17:17pm

GGAAHHHH, the names of these groups

George Carlin recommeded the best one evah!!


Flaming Rectal Itch

95 Riptides  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:22:49pm

re: #93 Bagua

Been watching this on and off past few hours and the last time I looked I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I was wondering at the chance that not only would they cause more leaks, but they may also cause enough down pressure to dislodge any debris that may have been stemming the flow.

96 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:23:16pm

I be scientist, I watch many show on Discovery, PBS, and National Geographic!

Then I watch History channel about life of Jesus! This disprove all of science mumbo-jumbo, me not stupid sheeple who drink koolaid, me think for self!

I smarter than scientist because I know real answer to everything, the Bible say God did it this way, so that be truth!

/if only it was really satire I'd be a lot happier. ;)

97 windsagio  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:23:17pm

re: #94 sattv4u2

I always liked 'Television Sorcerers'.

/loliran.

98 darthstar  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:24:18pm

Governor Perry...how's that seceding thing workin' out for ya?

... the Wall Street Journal noted this morning, the stimulus is the reason that Texas currently has a balanced budget:

[T]he economic downturn is catching up with Texas. Sales-tax revenue started falling in February 2009 compared with the previous year, and only started to recover a bit in April of this year. Although Mr. Perry has railed against the federal economic-stimulus program, billions of dollars from that initiative helped Texas legislators balance the current budget.

99 Four More Tears  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:26:28pm

On the bright side, the water down there is almost foggy enough that we can't see how bad it is...

100 sattv4u2  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:27:00pm

Here we have gathered for you at least one dumb law from a state each.

Find your state, compare it to neighboring states!

[Link: www.elistmania.com...]

101 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:27:20pm

re: #93 Bagua

Zee leak, she is getting worser.

Gee, imagine that, pumping thousands of gallons an hour of heavy synthetic drilling fluid in might make the outflow stronger, gee, color me shocked.

You honestly have no idea how this process is supposed to work do you? It very likely will not work but determining that will take at least 48 hours or so from when they began pumping.

102 darthstar  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:27:27pm

re: #93 Bagua

Zee leak, she is getting worser.

They're just lucky there's enough movement in the current to keep a clear view of the leak...if there was no current there, then the oil would have clouded the area around the drill head and they wouldn't be able to see the damn thing...then it would just be a permanent feature in the gulf.

103 Four More Tears  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:29:54pm
104 darthstar  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:30:37pm

re: #100 sattv4u2

Here we have gathered for you at least one dumb law from a state each.

Find your state, compare it to neighboring states!

[Link: www.elistmania.com...]

Wow..that lady isn't wearing a helmet!.

105 Bagua  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:32:27pm

re: #95 Riptides

Been watching this on and off past few hours and the last time I looked I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I was wondering at the chance that not only would they cause more leaks, but they may also cause enough down pressure to dislodge any debris that may have been stemming the flow.

The mud can cut steel at this pressure, no question that it is eroding the holes at the top of the BOP. It is likely eroding the hole/pathway inside the BOP as well. I'm not sure about any effect all this is having down-hole. But it certainly could create a rupture near the surface.

Should this fail, there will definitely be a worse leak at the risers, but this doesn't matter as the next step is to cut them off right above the stack but below the leaks.

The water is cloudy from all the mud, which is about twice the weight of the water. The oil/gas on the other hand rises. First they need to overcome the well pressure, with only mud leaking out. Then they try to force the mud down the well.

106 Varek Raith  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:32:34pm

Crap.
Tell me the leak isn't worse.

107 Gus  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:33:29pm
108 Jaerik  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:34:06pm

I have basically no faith in BP left, but I'm willing to wait the 24 hours to see if it worked. There's been too many "cataclysmic" false alarms from feed-watchers for me to try and follow its success minute by minute.

The last was someone screaming the well head had "entirely blown open," because the view seemed to be nothing but black gushing fluid. Turned out it was just oil-coated sediment kicked up by the motors on the ROV as it moved upwards to get a better view, and cleared out within half an hour or so.

109 Bagua  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:35:26pm

re: #102 darthstar

They're just lucky there's enough movement in the current to keep a clear view of the leak...if there was no current there, then the oil would have clouded the area around the drill head and they wouldn't be able to see the damn thing...then it would just be a permanent feature in the gulf.

The oil rises, helped along by the gas and heat. So the plume goes up.

110 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:35:36pm

re: #93 Bagua

Zee leak, she is getting worser.

Here's what they say on the BP feed:


Throughout the extended top kill procedure – which may take up to two days to complete - very significant changes in the appearance of the flows at the seabed may be expected. These will not provide a reliable indicator of the overall progress, or success or failure, of the top kill operation as a whole. BP will report on the progress of the operation as appropriate and on its outcome when complete.

So don't panic.
Yet.

111 sattv4u2  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:36:12pm

re: #104 darthstar

Wow..that lady isn't wearing a helmet!.

From Wisconsin

Law: Whenever two trains meet at an intersection of said tracks, neither shall proceed until the other has.

I imagine there is LOTS of traffic tie ups at Green Bay intersections

112 Bagua  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:36:25pm

re: #106 Varek Raith

Crap.
Tell me the leak isn't worse.

It has to get worse. See my comment above yours.

113 darthstar  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:37:54pm

Okay...I think I'm going to head on home and hang out with the dogs for the evening.

Play nice, everyone...wear a helmet.

114 sattv4u2  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:38:10pm

re: #110 reine.de.tout

So don't panic.
Yet.

I'm at the ready

Image: panikknap.jpg

115 Varek Raith  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:39:10pm

re: #112 Bagua

It has to get worse. See my comment above yours.

Sorry, the cynic in me has full awoken about the prospects of this working.
:(

116 Altermite  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:39:42pm

This is just england getting back at us for the late 18th and 19th centuries.

117 Altermite  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:40:10pm

/

Forgot the sarc tag on that. Whoops

118 Bagua  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:40:15pm

re: #110 reine.de.tout

So don't panic.
Yet.

I wonder how BP will spin it once it ruptures and the leak jumps to 30,000 barrels/day?

119 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:41:03pm

re: #101 ausador

Gee, imagine that, pumping thousands of gallons an hour of heavy synthetic drilling fluid in might make the outflow stronger, gee, color me shocked.

You honestly have no idea how this process is supposed to work do you? It very likely will not work but determining that will take at least 48 hours or so from when they began pumping.

Bagua has been finding and posting most interesting information about this for several days now.

I'm just asking that you go easy on him; this is the second post you've made to him with a "you don't know anything" sort of undertone, and honestly, it's just not necessary. Please.

120 Varek Raith  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:42:00pm

I, for one, appreciate Bagua's posts on the Gulf spill.

121 Cato the Elder  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:42:23pm

re: #35 darthstar

I'm not worried about paying $8 a gallon. Hell, I'd welcome it as it would encourage people to buy more economical cars and get those fuckin' gigantic SUVs off the road. And maybe, just maybe, we'd get some infrastructure funding to put quality rail transit in all of the major population corridors around the country (Except the flyover states...someone has to suffer).

Some people need big cars. I hate the notion that every car should be the size of a 1970s VW Rabbit.

As for infrastructure, who's going to pay for that?

122 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:42:30pm

re: #103 JasonA

Am I crazy for thinking that government regulators should be contractually restricted from taking jobs with the companies they're actually regulating?

I can't believe they're not.

When I worked for the State, I had to fill out a questionnaire every year and certify that neither I, nor any of my immediate family members, worked for a company that was receiving state contract funds or for an entity regulated by the agency I worked for.

123 Reginald Perrin  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:42:44pm

re: #32 Charles

Because it looks like it sprung several new leaks. Unless we're looking at a different section than we saw earlier.

re: #110 reine.de.tout

So don't panic.

I am not quite as confident as you appear to be. I just checked to see what the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy advised and it said......

Don't Do Panic

124 Bagua  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:42:48pm

BP and the CG will give an update at 7pm CST.

Bagua is being deployed elsewhere.

125 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:43:33pm

re: #105 Bagua

The mud can cut steel at this pressure, no question that it is eroding the holes at the top of the BOP. It is likely eroding the hole/pathway inside the BOP as well. I'm not sure about any effect all this is having down-hole. But it certainly could create a rupture near the surface.

Should this fail, there will definitely be a worse leak at the risers, but this doesn't matter as the next step is to cut them off right above the stack but below the leaks.

The water is cloudy from all the mud, which is about twice the weight of the water. The oil/gas on the other hand rises. First they need to overcome the well pressure, with only mud leaking out. Then they try to force the mud down the well.

What's coming out of there right now is light colored, not the heavy dark stuff that was coming out earlier. I take this as a good sign?

126 sattv4u2  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:45:10pm

re: #121 Cato the Elder

Some people need big cars. I hate the notion that every car should be the size of a 1970s VW Rabbit.

As for infrastructure, who's going to pay for that?

A TRABANT IN EVERY CLOSET!

Image: trabant.jpg

You can have it in any color you want, as long as it's beige!

127 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:45:15pm

re: #123 Reginald Perrin

I am not quite as confident as you appear to be. I just checked to see what the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy advised and it said...

Don't Do Panic

What I see right now coming out doesn't look like the heavy dark stuff that was flowing earlier. This is lighter, and it seems to be moving upward at a quicker rate than what we saw before. What you're seeing now may not be oil.

Again, don't panic - YET. Plenty of time for that.

128 Stanghazi  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:46:03pm

I lost the link. Could someone post what they are watching?

129 sattv4u2  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:46:13pm

re: #123 Reginald Perrin

I am not quite as confident as you appear to be. I just checked to see what the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy advised and it said...

Don't Do Panic

here's your button

Image: panic-button.jpg

130 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:46:13pm

re: #118 Bagua

I wonder how BP will spin it once it ruptures and the leak jumps to 30,000 barrels/day?

Progress!
/ / /

131 Bagua  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:46:22pm

re: #125 reine.de.tout

What's coming out of there right now is light colored, not the heavy dark stuff that was coming out earlier. I take this as a good sign?

Absolutely. The mud is grey, the crude is dark black and brown. If we get to the point where only mud is flowing out, then that is major progress. It means they have overcome the well pressure. Likely they can then start pumping more mud down hole.

132 Gus  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:46:55pm

re: #130 reine.de.tout

Progress!
/ / /

A teachable moment.

/

133 Varek Raith  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:46:56pm

re: #128 Stanley Sea

I lost the link. Could someone post what they are watching?

Warning, this link will resize your browser.
[Link: www.cnn.com...]

134 Cato the Elder  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:47:24pm

re: #126 sattv4u2

A TRABANT IN EVERY CLOSET!

Image: trabant.jpg

You can have it in any color you want, as long as it's beige!

Those things were actually made of fiberglass. When you crashed, they splintered.

And the wait between ordering and paying for the "car" and delivery was generally around five years.

135 sattv4u2  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:47:42pm

re: #133 Varek Raith

Warning, this link will resize your browser.
[Link: www.cnn.com...]

and if it lasts more than 4 hours, please call a physician

136 Summer Seale  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:47:53pm

Bagua, I have no idea what your RL job is but you do sound like you know what you're talking about. So I'll try not to freak out at the sight of what looks to be a worse mess than it was this morning. =)

137 Varek Raith  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:48:09pm

re: #135 sattv4u2

and if it lasts more than 4 hours, please call a physician

Lol.

138 Stanghazi  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:48:35pm

re: #133 Varek Raith

Warning, this link will resize your browser.
[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Thank you!

139 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:49:11pm

re: #128 Stanley Sea

I lost the link. Could someone post what they are watching?



Here ya go, hon.

140 sattv4u2  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:49:21pm

re: #134 Cato the Elder

Those things were actually made of fiberglass. When you crashed, they splintered.

And the wait between ordering and paying for the "car" and delivery was generally around five years.

Friend of mine back in Boston years ago got his hands on on.
I've never felt more unsafe in a vehicle, and NOT due to his driving skills

141 Reginald Perrin  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:50:21pm

re: #118 Bagua

I wonder how BP will spin it once it ruptures and the leak jumps to 30,000 barrels/day?

That's easy, since the leak is now 5 times larger, they can spin it this way: we are now confident that there has been an 80% reduction in the number of days that this well can continue leaking oil in the gulf.

142 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:51:32pm

re: #136 Summer

Bagua, I have no idea what your RL job is but you do sound like you know what you're talking about. So I'll try not to freak out at the sight of what looks to be a worse mess than it was this morning. =)

What you're seeing now is lighter than what was flowing out of there this morning, and moving faster. This is a good sign - I'm not sure that what you're seeing there right now is oil. Much of it may be the drilling mud they're pumping down. They're putting a lot of pressure on that thing - I would think it would be normal for additional leaks to occur.

143 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:51:38pm

re: #114 sattv4u2

I'm at the ready

Image: panikknap.jpg

You might want to plug that USB cable into something before pressing the "Big Shiny Red Button," I hear they work better when they are actually connected to something.

/

144 Cato the Elder  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:52:34pm

re: #140 sattv4u2

Friend of mine back in Boston years ago got his hands on on.
I've never felt more unsafe in a vehicle, and NOT due to his driving skills

If I recall correctly, the engine was two-stroke, right? Gas-oil mix.

145 sattv4u2  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:52:44pm

re: #143 ausador

You might want to plug that USB cable into something before pressing the "Big Shiny Red Button," I hear they work better when they are actually connected to something.

/

Nahhh,, it's that way on purpose

Too many times too many people "hit the panic button" too soon

This is a fail-safe!

146 sattv4u2  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:54:05pm

re: #144 Cato the Elder

If I recall correctly, the engine was two-stroke, right? Gas-oil mix.

Yup,,, and about the size (and horsepower) of my Briggs and Stratton Riding Lawn mower one!

147 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:54:29pm

This report has a time stamp of 6:33 pm (central time, I guess, since it's a local site and that's where I am)

COVINGTON, LA (AP) - BP CEO Tony Hayward says the process of pumping heavy mud into the leaking Gulf of Mexico well is going according to plan and it will be at least a day before the company knows if it has been successful.

This is company's boldest attempt yet to plug the gusher that has spewed millions of gallons of oil over the last five weeks.

Hayward says the plume of gushing oil that is being shown live online and on TV isn't an indictor of whether the process is working. He says if it increases or decreases, it doesn't indicate what's going on.

BP hoped the mud being pumped in Wednesday could overpower the steady stream of oil. The company wants to eventually inject cement into the well to permanently seal it.

148 Varek Raith  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:56:19pm

re: #146 sattv4u2

Yup,,, and about the size (and horsepower) of my Briggs and Stratton Riding Lawn mower one!

I could add a micro-fusion reactor to it...
Should give it an additional, oh, 500,000 horse power.
VVVRRROOOMMMM

149 sattv4u2  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:56:22pm

re: #147 reine.de.tout

thanks

150 Cato the Elder  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:56:51pm

re: #146 sattv4u2

Yup,,, and about the size (and horsepower) of my Briggs and Stratton Riding Lawn mower one!

The good part about them was the couldn't rust and never needed painting, because the color was molded right into the fiberglass.

The downside was that like all crappy fiberglass of that era, it would eventually deteriorate with exposure to UV rays.

151 sattv4u2  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:56:58pm

re: #148 Varek Raith

I could add a micro-fusion reactor to it...
Should give it an additional, oh, 500,000 horse power.
VVVRRROOOMMM

Trust me,,, you do NOT wnat that thing going any faster than 30-35 mph!

152 Varek Raith  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:58:00pm

re: #151 sattv4u2

Trust me,,, you do NOT wnat that thing going any faster than 30-35 mph!

PFFFTTT, just put a shield generator on it and you could blow through a mountain unscathed and not realize it.
:)

153 lostlakehiker  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:58:09pm

Top kill works or it doesn't. We'll know by and by. This isn't a sports show where we can enjoy sitting on the edges of our seats.

Long run, the ocean and its life does indeed metabolize a lot of the oil and the compounds it breaks down into under the influence of sunlight, and some of it gets sequestered deep. It's almost certainly doing less ecological damage, all in all, than the damage caused by a routine year of world CO2 production.

The failure to get another nuclear power plant up and running doesn't make the news, because it's the same old same old failure, day after day, year after year. Our quiet, undramatic failures to act in time are what will hurt us the most in the long run. Our quiet, steady technical progress toward economical wind and solar are our best grounds for hope. If and when we get to where we can produce electric energy at a cost that undercuts coal, coal fired plants will no longer be built. Coal will be used
for blast furnaces still, and it will be used in what we will smugly call the Third World, forgetting that we too were 'third world' way back in the 2010s.

154 sattv4u2  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:58:17pm

re: #150 Cato the Elder

The good part about them was the couldn't rust and never needed painting, because the color was molded right into the fiberglass.

The downside was that like all crappy fiberglass of that era, it would eventually deteriorate with exposure to UV rays.

The perfect car to drive in the land where the sun never rises!

155 sattv4u2  Wed, May 26, 2010 4:59:02pm

re: #152 Varek Raith

PFFFTTT, just put a shield generator on it and you could blow through a mountain unscathed and not realize it.
:)

you watch WAY to much Sci Fi

Go outdoors for a walk every so often,, go ahead ,, it won't be all that bad!

156 Gus  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:00:02pm

re: #147 reine.de.tout

This report has a time stamp of 6:33 pm (central time, I guess, since it's a local site and that's where I am)

In my work, whenever someone asks me for an opinion that's outside of my level of expertise I always reply with, "I don't know." In this case, while I'm looking at this livefeed, I'm thinking to myself, "I really don't know what I'm looking at."

157 Varek Raith  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:01:08pm

re: #155 sattv4u2

you watch WAY to much Sci Fi

Go outdoors for a walk every so often,, go ahead ,, it won't be all that bad!

Do you even know what UV light does to a vampire?!?!?!

158 Cato the Elder  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:01:09pm

Saw my first Prius taxi yesterday.

I've never actually been in the back seat of a Prius, but after they install the fixed barrier between the driver and the passengers in the back, I can't imagine there'd be much room for my legs.

Now these guys gave you decent head and legroom.

159 Four More Tears  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:01:13pm

Why do people continue to call it a "fragile" ecosystem? An inability to cope with millions of gallons of oil makes something fragile?

160 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:01:17pm

re: #156 Gus 802

In my work, whenever someone asks me for an opinion that's outside of my level of expertise I always reply with, "I don't know." In this case, while I'm looking at this livefeed, I'm thinking to myself, "I really don't know what I'm looking at."

Exactly.

161 windsagio  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:01:33pm
162 Obdicut  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:01:38pm

re: #6 Bagua

Ya think? ~~

Some with more reason than others.

163 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:01:46pm

re: #156 Gus 802

In my work, whenever someone asks me for an opinion that's outside of my level of expertise I always reply with, "I don't know." In this case, while I'm looking at this livefeed, I'm thinking to myself, "I really don't know what I'm looking at."

Which makes me ask myself this question:
Why the hell am I sitting here staring at it?
LOL.

164 windsagio  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:02:12pm

re: #163 reine.de.tout

Its better than not watching. Whole thing is too damn stressful >>

165 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:02:19pm

re: #143 ausador

You might want to plug that USB cable into something before pressing the "Big Shiny Red Button," I hear they work better when they are actually connected to something.

/

It's the History Eraser Button You Fool!!!
/Ren/

166 Gus  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:02:45pm

re: #163 reine.de.tout

Which makes me ask myself this question:
Why the hell am I sitting here staring at it?
LOL.

It's hypnotizing like a Yule Log.

I was thinking later though. In a way it's kind of like watching a NASCAR race if you know what I mean.

167 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:03:20pm

re: #159 JasonA

Why do people continue to call it a "fragile" ecosystem? An inability to cope with millions of gallons of oil makes something fragile?

Louisiana's coastline is indeed a fragile ecosystem.

Louisiana's coastal wetlands and islands are disappearing at an alarming rate:

Since 1930 water has consumed more than 1,900 square miles (4,900 km²) of the state’s land. This loss equates to the disappearance of 25 square miles (65 km²) of wetlands each year or a football field sized area every 30 minutes.

168 Varek Raith  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:03:36pm

re: #156 Gus 802

In my work, whenever someone asks me for an opinion that's outside of my level of expertise I always reply with, "I don't know." In this case, while I'm looking at this livefeed, I'm thinking to myself, "I really don't know what I'm looking at."

Exactly. I got no clue what I'm looking at. Is it oil? Is it mud? Is it both? Is it supposed to look worse?
:/

169 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:03:56pm

re: #166 Gus 802

It's hypnotizing like a Yule Log.

I was thinking later though. In a way it's kind of like watching a NASCAR race if you know what I mean.

Yep!
Or, waiting for the Gaza Rooster to crow.

170 Gus  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:05:24pm

Press conference is underway BTW.

171 sattv4u2  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:06:56pm

re: #168 Varek Raith

Exactly. I got no clue what I'm looking at. Is it oil? Is it mud? Is it both? Is it supposed to look worse?
:/

I had to stop watching. I was sitting there waiting for Jules Verne to emerge in one of those old diving bells and take on this guy
Image: seaworm.jpg

172 sattv4u2  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:07:43pm

Shower time

Cya all in a couple of hours

173 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:08:02pm

re: #170 Gus 802

Press conference is underway BTW.

CNN has the name of the town wrong.
It's "Robert", La, not "Roberts".

174 Varek Raith  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:08:26pm

re: #173 reine.de.tout

CNN has the name of the town wrong.
It's "Robert", La, not "Roberts".

D'oh!

175 Stanghazi  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:08:57pm

re: #173 reine.de.tout

CNN has the name of the town wrong.
It's "Robert", La, not "Roberts".

Can't afford fact checkers anymore. pitiful.

176 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:09:33pm

re: #175 Stanley Sea

Can't afford fact checkers anymore. pitiful.

They never get the names of our towns right.
Either misspelled, or mispronounced, or both.
Surely, they have a Louisiana native or two on staff?

177 Gus  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:11:04pm

re: #173 reine.de.tout

CNN has the name of the town wrong.
It's "Robert", La, not "Roberts".

Ah, OK. I was looking at that. Roberts.

Yeah, CNN called Edwards AFB Langley once. Another time the showed an external fuel tank and called it a bomb and once they said Boeing had just come out with the world's largest airliner on the day the A380 made its maiden flight.

Not saying CNN is terrible just that they make goofy errors like this from time to time.

178 Cato the Elder  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:12:08pm

re: #171 sattv4u2

I had to stop watching. I was sitting there waiting for Jules Verne to emerge in one of those old diving bells and take on this guy
Image: seaworm.jpg

That's not a sea worm, that's Satan.

179 Varek Raith  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:12:22pm

re: #177 Gus 802

Ah, OK. I was looking at that. Roberts.

Yeah, CNN called Edwards AFB Langley once. Another time the showed an external fuel tank and called it a bomb and once they said Boeing had just come out with the world's largest airliner on the day the A380 made its maiden flight.

Not saying CNN is terrible just that they make goofy errors like this from time to time.

Image: cnn_shuttle.jpg

XD

180 Varek Raith  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:13:03pm

re: #179 Varek Raith

Dammit.
Laughing at the mistake CNN made, not the tragedy.
:/

181 Gus  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:13:04pm

re: #179 Varek Raith

Image: cnn_shuttle.jpg

XD

Damn, that was one fast shuttle.

182 sattv4u2  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:13:18pm

re: #178 Cato the Elder

That's not a sea worm, that's Satan.

DON;T EAT THE BROWN ACID

183 Four More Tears  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:13:53pm
184 sattv4u2  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:14:04pm

re: #176 reine.de.tout

They never get the names of our towns right.
Either misspelled, or mispronounced, or both.
Surely, they have a Louisiana native or two on staff?

I'm sure they have James Carville on Speed Dial

185 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:15:04pm

re: #119 reine.de.tout

Bagua has been finding and posting most interesting information about this for several days now.

I'm just asking that you go easy on him; this is the second post you've made to him with a "you don't know anything" sort of undertone, and honestly, it's just not necessary. Please.

Then how about he post as if he is aware of the ongoing process rather than claiming non-sensical seeming setbacks after only a couple of hours. Yes I know and can tell that he is absolutely rooting for this to fail from the tone of his posts, he can't wait to crow that B.P. has failed apparently.

Perhaps he might wish to wait to crow about failure until it has gone on long enough for the people who know what they are talking about to mention it. Then again he can just keep claiming failure every hour based on nothing but the expected side effects of the operation and then doubly crow out loud if and when it does fail about how he knew it wasn't going to work first, right?

Thanks but no thanks, negativity just for the sake of possibly being right just isn't my thing. :(

186 Cato the Elder  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:16:01pm

re: #177 Gus 802

Ah, OK. I was looking at that. Roberts.

Yeah, CNN called Edwards AFB Langley once. Another time the showed an external fuel tank and called it a bomb and once they said Boeing had just come out with the world's largest airliner on the day the A380 made its maiden flight.

Not saying CNN is terrible just that they make goofy errors like this from time to time.

Then there's the famous Yahoo picture of the Iraqi woman holding up two "bullets" which she said were fired at her house.

187 Varek Raith  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:16:08pm

re: #181 Gus 802

Damn, that was one fast shuttle.

Warp 2.3!
/Yeah, really...

188 Four More Tears  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:16:12pm

re: #185 ausador

Aus, I have to say that I never got that vibe off of Bagua. Crap, I think I've sounded more like that...

189 Gus  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:16:22pm

re: #183 JasonA

Image: journalist_guns_2.jpg

That's hilarious. Especially the car.

190 Four More Tears  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:16:40pm

re: #186 Cato the Elder

Then there's the famous Yahoo picture of the Iraqi woman holding up two "bullets" which she said were fired at her house.

Heh. Heh heh heh.

191 Gus  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:17:38pm

re: #186 Cato the Elder

Then there's the famous Yahoo picture of the Iraqi woman holding up two "bullets" which she said were fired at her house.

Yeah. That's when I said they grabbed a handful of bullets and threw them against the house.

192 Fozzie Bear  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:17:57pm

re: #74 allegro

From the same site.

All this talk of oil spill is just another liberal media propaganda. Has anyone even SEEN the oil? NO because it doesn't exist. The extreme left wing only wants you to have windmills powered by the cow f@rts, and oil is so bad or something. OIL COMES FROM YOUR SKIN, it can't be that bad. He%P%%P%, you even fry your chicken fingers in it for crepes sake. great, now i need some chicken fingers.

193 Varek Raith  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:18:26pm

re: #191 Gus 802

Yeah. That's when I said they grabbed a handful of bullets and threw them against the house.

It worked in Hot Shots Part Deux....

194 Varek Raith  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:18:55pm

re: #192 Fozzie Bear

From the same site.

O_o

195 Gus  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:19:09pm

re: #193 Varek Raith

It worked in Hot Shots Part Deux...

With sling shots?

196 Varek Raith  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:20:07pm

re: #195 Gus 802

With sling shots?

Heh, Sheen's character picked up a handful of bullets and threw them at the enemy, killing them.
XD

197 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:20:44pm

re: #190 JasonA

Heh. Heh heh heh.

They used a top secret special forces "airgun" to shoot those bullets! That is why the casings are still attached with the powder still in them.

And, and they hit a giant...err...pile of wool...yeah, that explains why the bullets aren't deformed either.

/

198 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:21:12pm

re: #185 ausador

Then how about he post as if he is aware of the ongoing process rather than claiming non-sensical seeming setbacks after only a couple of hours. Yes I know and can tell that he is absolutely rooting for this to fail from the tone of his posts, he can't wait to crow that B.P. has failed apparently.

Perhaps he might wish to wait to crow about failure until it has gone on long enough for the people who know what they are talking about to mention it. Then again he can just keep claiming failure every hour based on nothing but the expected side effects of the operation and then doubly crow out loud if and when it does fail about how he knew it wasn't going to work first, right?

Thanks but no thanks, negativity just for the sake of possibly being right just isn't my thing. :(

?
OK. What. Ever. Floats. Your. Boat.

199 Gus  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:21:34pm

Oh brother. Someone asked about the military taking over. OK, what's the military going to do down there? When was the last time the DoD worked on a BOP?

200 Fozzie Bear  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:21:39pm

re: #194 Varek Raith

O_o

Once 4chan got wind of this, it was doomed.

201 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:21:51pm

re: #192 Fozzie Bear

From the same site.

Obvious POE is obvious.

/just sayin'

202 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:22:00pm

re: #188 JasonA

Aus, I have to say that I never got that vibe off of Bagua. Crap, I think I've sounded more like that...

Yeah, I didn't get that vibe either.
But . . . some folks thrive on telling everybody else how stupid they are.
And that's just how it is.

203 Jetpilot1101  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:22:41pm

re: #192 Fozzie Bear

Send that moron my way. I've logged a ton of time directly over the oil spill and I can tell you that there is oil in the gulf. In my opinion the picture the media are showing of the oil on the water are not the worst ones at all. This spill is bad, period.

204 Varek Raith  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:23:26pm

re: #200 Fozzie Bear

Once 4chan got wind of this, it was doomed.

Lol, is that what that comment was?

205 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:23:32pm

re: #199 Gus 802

Oh brother. Someone asked about the military taking over. OK, what's the military going to do down there? When was the last time the DoD worked on a BOP?

This drilling stuff is such a mystery to most folks. It really is; which is why you end up with silly questions.

206 Gus  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:23:40pm

No wait. Let me guess. I bet some people think the Navy can send manned submarines and scuba divers down to the well.

207 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:24:11pm

re: #206 Gus 802

No wait. Let me guess. I bet some people think the Navy can send manned submarines and scuba divers down to the well.

Why not? It's "only" 5000 feet down!
//

208 Varek Raith  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:24:27pm

re: #206 Gus 802

No wait. Let me guess. I bet some people think the Navy can send manned submarines and scuba divers down to the well.

Someone emailed CNN with a suggestion to put a Navy sub on top of the leak...
*shakes head*

209 Gus  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:25:38pm

re: #208 Varek Raith

Someone emailed CNN with a suggestion to put a Navy sub on top of the leak...
*shakes head*

Detonate teh H-bomb down there!1!!1

/

210 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:26:44pm

the subdudes have zero music vids out there....bummer

211 Fozzie Bear  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:27:03pm

re: #204 Varek Raith

Most of the posts are 4chan trolls. This was just waaaaay too ripe for taking comedic advantage for them to resist.

/b/ lives for this kind of thing.

212 Varek Raith  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:27:55pm

re: #211 Fozzie Bear

Most of the posts are 4chan trolls. This was just waaay too ripe for taking comedic advantage for them to resist.

/b/ lives for this kind of thing.

I know, I used to hang out at 4chan...
:)

213 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:27:56pm

Here's some music to watch the leak by. Armik.

214 sattv4u2  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:29:46pm

re: #185 ausador

. Yes I know and can tell that he is absolutely rooting for this to fail from the tone of his posts

Whats that phrase i'm looking for? Sorry, but i'm not prone to such utterances ,, but ,, hold on
lemme think

oh yes


Fuck You

215 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:30:25pm

per the press conference:
What you're seeing now is most likely drilling mud, not oil, although they cannot confirm that because they can't test it to see what it is.

Just observing though;
What we saw earlier was sluggish and very very dark.
What we see now is lighter colored and moving faster.

216 Summer Seale  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:30:33pm

re: #199 Gus 802

Oh brother. Someone asked about the military taking over. OK, what's the military going to do down there? When was the last time the DoD worked on a BOP?

Updinged, but I just have to say one thing:

I know that the best scientists and engineers in the world on these matters are trying to figure it out right now for BP and all but...

...the Army Corps of Engineers can do, fix, build, plug, and bridge anything, anywhere, and anytime. =)

217 Fozzie Bear  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:31:32pm

re: #212 Varek Raith

I know, I used to hang out at 4chan...
:)

Some more, I can't resist.

We hear a lot about patriotism, but what about matriotism? Whatever happened to Mom and Apple Pie? People talk about how much they like pie all the time, but do they ever call their mothers? Not often enough, that's for sure.

Every time I try to do something on this site a box comes up that says "Something Happened." That is very unclear and we should be told what happened.


Aramaic as the Official Language of the US. We do this to respect two facts: this is a Christian Nation and Jesus spoke Aramaic, therefore, that should be our language as well. Anyone who refuses to speak the language of our Lord should be deported back to where they came from. This includes the Native Americans.
5 Total Votes

Capital Punishment should be made cheaper by removing the process to authenticate whether or not someone is actually guilty. It's absolutely ridiculous how Capital Punishment costs more than life in prison because of this. Let God sort his own out from the rest.

They should close down bodegas that don't sell American pie, and deport all the workers.

218 Gus  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:31:38pm

re: #216 Summer

Updinged, but I just have to say one thing:

I know that the best scientists and engineers in the world on these matters are trying to figure it out right now for BP and all but...

...the Army Corps of Engineers can do, fix, build, plug, and bridge anything, anywhere, and anytime. =)

Right. I'm sure the Navy could to. Eventually. But there would be a massive "learning curve." Basically it would be OTJ training.

219 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:32:18pm

re: #216 Summer

Updinged, but I just have to say one thing:

I know that the best scientists and engineers in the world on these matters are trying to figure it out right now for BP and all but...

...the Army Corps of Engineers can do, fix, build, plug, and bridge anything, anywhere, and anytime. =)

Well, except they seem to be having a problem deciding that the environmental impact of sand berms is a better risk for Louisiana's coast than oil washing on shore. I still haven't seen that they've issued those permits. But Jindal's ordered the berms to be built anyhow.

220 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:32:28pm

re: #202 reine.de.tout

Yeah, I didn't get that vibe either.
But . . . some folks thrive on telling everybody else how stupid they are.
And that's just how it is.

How about you go back and reread the two posts of Bagua's that I commented on, if he supposedly has been paying attention and knows what they are trying to do and the expected flow rate side effects in the mean time whether it works or not make his posts ridiculously early "Nah-nah you failed!" bullshit.

It is nothing but crowing bullshit, I hope it succeeds that much more now knowing that he will have to eat his stupidly meaningless early "guesses."

221 Cato the Elder  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:32:36pm

re: #216 Summer

Updinged, but I just have to say one thing:

I know that the best scientists and engineers in the world on these matters are trying to figure it out right now for BP and all but...

...the Army Corps of Engineers can do, fix, build, plug, and bridge anything, anywhere, and anytime. =)

If that were true in mile-deep water, do you think they wouldn't be called in?

I mean, all due respect to those guys, but they're Army = generally land-based.

222 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:33:00pm

re: #213 rwdflynavy

Here's some music to watch the leak by. Armik.


[Video]

VIVA EL ZORRO!
really cool groove

223 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:33:19pm

re: #220 ausador

How about you go back and reread the two posts of Bagua's that I commented on, if he supposedly has been paying attention and knows what they are trying to do and the expected flow rate side effects in the mean time whether it works or not make his posts ridiculously early "Nah-nah you failed!" bullshit.

It is nothing but crowing bullshit, I hope it succeeds that much more now knowing that he will have to eat his stupidly meaningless early "guesses."

Or maybe you could quit acting like such a douchebag.

224 sattv4u2  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:33:47pm

re: #220 ausador

It is nothing but crowing bullshit

Sort of like ,,

well

YOUR posts!

225 Varek Raith  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:33:47pm

re: #220 ausador

Huh?
*scratches head*

226 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:33:51pm

re: #220 ausador

How about you go back and reread the two posts of Bagua's that I commented on, if he supposedly has been paying attention and knows what they are trying to do and the expected flow rate side effects in the mean time whether it works or not make his posts ridiculously early "Nah-nah you failed!" bullshit.

It is nothing but crowing bullshit, I hope it succeeds that much more now knowing that he will have to eat his stupidly meaningless early "guesses."

I read them.
And I've read your posts.
And honestly, I saw more negativity in yours than in his.
Just sayin.
You just carry on; I suggest a mutual GAZE.

227 sattv4u2  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:34:03pm

re: #223 rwdflynavy

Or maybe you could quit acting like such a douchebag.

who's acting?

228 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:34:27pm

re: #227 sattv4u2

who's acting?

Giving the benefit of the doubt...

229 Dark_Falcon  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:34:35pm

re: #221 Cato the Elder

If that were true in mile-deep water, do you think they wouldn't be called in?

I mean, all due respect to those guys, but they're Army = generally land-based.

Exactly. Operations out in the Gulf of Mexico are generally the Navy's purview. The Army normally tries to stay out of things clearly in another service's sphere of responsibility.

230 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:34:59pm

re: #221 Cato the Elder

If that were true in mile-deep water, do you think they wouldn't be called in?

I mean, all due respect to those guys, but they're Army = generally land-based.

there are untapped resources out there...probably not BO/BP friendly tho

231 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:35:34pm

re: #213 rwdflynavy

I'm really digging this music...thanks

232 Summer Seale  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:36:18pm

Cato, Gus, everyone,

Geez guys, I was being a little bit sarcastic.... =)

You should know me by now. =P

233 Gus  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:36:22pm

re: #229 Dark_Falcon

Exactly. Operations out in the Gulf of Mexico are generally the Navy's purview. The Army normally tries to stay out of things clearly in another service's sphere of responsibility.

Yes. But perhaps they haven't yet deployed SCUTA...

Self Contained Underwater Tank Apparatus.

//

234 Cato the Elder  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:36:38pm

re: #229 Dark_Falcon

Exactly. Operations out in the Gulf of Mexico are generally the Navy's purview. The Army normally tries to stay out of things clearly in another service's sphere of responsibility.

And if the Navy had the wherewithal to take care of this, I am assuming neither BP nor Obama nor anyone else would be standing in their way.

Let's face it, this deepwater drilling technology was developed by the people who do the deepwater drilling. I'm not expecting another agency to ride to the rescue.

235 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:36:43pm

re: #231 albusteve

I'm really digging this music...thanks

I got hooked on Flamenco music during a port visit to Spain. A buddy turned me on to Armik. Great stuff!!

236 Gus  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:37:07pm

re: #232 Summer

Cato, Gus, everyone,

Geez guys, I was being a little bit sarcastic... =)

You should know me by now. =P

Oh, OK. I updinged that anyway. :)

237 Cato the Elder  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:38:12pm

re: #232 Summer

Cato, Gus, everyone,

Geez guys, I was being a little bit sarcastic... =)

You should know me by now. =P

I must be suffering from heat stroke. Mowed a lawn in 90+ degree heat today...

238 b_sharp  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:38:56pm

re: #206 Gus 802

No wait. Let me guess. I bet some people think the Navy can send manned submarines and scuba divers down to the well.

They can't?

239 Gus  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:39:51pm

re: #238 b_sharp

They can't?

That's a trick question!

//

240 Obdicut  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:40:34pm

re: #229 Dark_Falcon

I always found it funny that my ACOE grandfather spent most of WWII working with boats. Landing craft, to be precise. His responsibilities mainly took over at the water's edge, I believe.

241 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:40:56pm

re: #237 Cato the Elder

I must be suffering from heat stroke. Mowed a lawn in 90+ degree heat today...

awww...that's pretty hot tho when you factor in humidity...down here we are hot and dry...not a trace of rain in months...long months, like 6

242 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:41:13pm

re: #238 b_sharp

They can't?

You can do anything....Once...

Oh, you want the divers and sub to come back up?! Can't do that.

243 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:41:18pm

re: #237 Cato the Elder

I must be suffering from heat stroke. Mowed a lawn in 90+ degree heat today...

oh, ugh!
I can't even think about that without wanting to faint (while clutching my pearls, of course).

244 Cato the Elder  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:42:16pm

re: #242 rwdflynavy

You can do anything...Once...

Oh, you want the divers and sub to come back up?! Can't do that.

Yeah. They go down, stuff a rag in the leak, and die. Problem not solved.

245 b_sharp  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:42:32pm

re: #237 Cato the Elder

I must be suffering from heat stroke. Mowed a lawn in 90+ degree heat today...

That's why we're 10C lower than avg here, you're hogging all the heat.

246 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:42:35pm

re: #243 reine.de.tout

oh, ugh!
I can't even think about that without wanting to faint (while clutching my pearls, of course).

ha!....bartender! iced gin for the lady!

247 Vicious Babushka  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:42:41pm

re: #237 Cato the Elder

I must be suffering from heat stroke. Mowed a lawn in 90+ degree heat today...

IT IS VERY DANGEROUS if you are over 50 and mow lawn, or shovel snow. (In Michigan, possible on the same day)

248 darthstar  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:42:53pm

re: #238 b_sharp

They can't?

Deepest dive ever was by a Navy diver off the coast of California in 2007

A Navy diver submerged 2,000 feet, setting a record using the new Atmospheric Diving System (ADS) suit, off the coast of La Jolla, Calif., Aug. 1.

That's still 3000 feet short of where the welll head is.

249 Aceofwhat?  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:43:40pm

re: #220 ausador

How about you go back and reread the two posts of Bagua's that I commented on, if he supposedly has been paying attention and knows what they are trying to do and the expected flow rate side effects in the mean time whether it works or not make his posts ridiculously early "Nah-nah you failed!" bullshit.

It is nothing but crowing bullshit, I hope it succeeds that much more now knowing that he will have to eat his stupidly meaningless early "guesses."

don't be an ass. he doesn't want this to fail.

250 b_sharp  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:43:54pm

re: #239 Gus 802

That's a trick question!

//

Can't we call on Cap't Nemo?

251 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:43:55pm

re: #246 albusteve

ha!...bartender! iced gin for the lady!

Make that a mint julep.

252 Gus  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:44:03pm

re: #248 darthstar

That's still 3000 feet short of where the welll head is.

I think the Dolphin made it down to 3000. I'm sure that was one nervous ride. Either way it's just a zipped up iron shell that couldn't do much.

253 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:44:14pm

re: #249 Aceofwhat?

don't be an ass. he doesn't want this to fail.

I like that.
Succint.

254 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:44:24pm

re: #247 Alouette

IT IS VERY DANGEROUS if you are over 50 and mow lawn, or shovel snow. (In Michigan, possible on the same day)

MI!...I hate that town...never go back til I absolutely have to...too many trees!

255 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:45:19pm

re: #253 reine.de.tout


OOPS.
PIMF.

I like that.
Succint.

succinct

256 Aceofwhat?  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:46:10pm

re: #253 reine.de.tout

I like that.
Succint.

Ooh - if you're switching to a julep, may i have your iced gin??

257 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:46:46pm

re: #77 SpaceJesus

got my Bonnaroo ticket today, anybody in Tennessee want to let me borrow their house next month?

Baroness will be there! One of the great new metal bands. Stunningly cool band.

258 Gus  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:46:59pm

re: #248 darthstar

That's still 3000 feet short of where the welll head is.

Diver? Oops. I read submarine. Damn, that's crazy. 2000 feet!

259 b_sharp  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:47:13pm

re: #242 rwdflynavy

You can do anything...Once...

Oh, you want the divers and sub to come back up?! Can't do that.

How about a reverse sky elevator. Send them down in a deep sea elevator. Just make sure there's no floor #-13.

260 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:47:59pm

re: #259 b_sharp

How about a reverse sky elevator. Send them down in a deep sea elevator. Just make sure there's no floor #-13.

THE ABYSS!

261 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:48:10pm

re: #256 Aceofwhat?

Ooh - if you're switching to a julep, may i have your iced gin??

Sure!
Here ya go.

262 Cato the Elder  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:48:11pm

re: #247 Alouette

IT IS VERY DANGEROUS if you are over 50 and mow lawn, or shovel snow. (In Michigan, possible on the same day)

Heck, my dad is about to turn 76 and still mows his own lawn, with a push mower (not self-propelled). I just did it for him today because he was busy.

263 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:48:19pm

re: #256 Aceofwhat?

Ooh - if you're switching to a julep, may i have your iced gin??

will trade for shrimp

264 b_sharp  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:48:20pm

re: #244 Cato the Elder

Yeah. They go down, stuff a rag in the leak, and die. Problem not solved.

Who said anything about a rag. Surely someone could convince Glen Beck to act like a cork for his country.

265 Gus  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:48:32pm

re: #248 darthstar

That's still 3000 feet short of where the welll head is.

Image of suit:

Image: 050617-N-1464F-011.jpg

Called an Atmospheric Diving Suit (ADS).

266 Varek Raith  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:49:09pm

re: #265 Gus 802

Image of suit:

Image: 050617-N-1464F-011.jpg

Called an Atmospheric Diving Suit (ADS).

I feel...claustrophobic...

267 Gus  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:49:59pm

re: #266 Varek Raith

I feel...claustrophobic...

Yeah, looks pretty hairy...

Image: 060801-N-4995K-140.jpg

No "ejection seat"!

268 b_sharp  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:50:16pm

re: #262 Cato the Elder

Heck, my dad is about to turn 76 and still mows his own lawn, with a push mower (not self-propelled). I just did it for him today because he was busy.

Good man.

269 Fozzie Bear  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:50:44pm

re: #265 Gus 802

Image of suit:

Image: 050617-N-1464F-011.jpg

Called an Atmospheric Diving Suit (ADS).

I would hesitate to even call that a "suit". It's more like a man-shaped submarine.

270 albusteve  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:50:50pm

re: #262 Cato the Elder

Heck, my dad is about to turn 76 and still mows his own lawn, with a push mower (not self-propelled). I just did it for him today because he was busy.

I couldn't dream of living away from my dad in his last years....for 20 years I lived just minutes from him

271 Gus  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:51:28pm

re: #269 Fozzie Bear

I would hesitate to even call that a "suit". It's more like a man-shaped submarine.

Oops, that should by System not Suit.

I should take a break.

272 b_sharp  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:51:32pm

re: #265 Gus 802

Image of suit:

Image: 050617-N-1464F-011.jpg

Called an Atmospheric Diving Suit (ADS).

Cool.

273 Gus  Wed, May 26, 2010 5:54:02pm

Hasta later.

274 darthstar  Wed, May 26, 2010 6:03:01pm

re: #265 Gus 802

Image of suit:

Image: 050617-N-1464F-011.jpg

Called an Atmospheric Diving Suit (ADS).

Sucks if you have to pee.

275 lostlakehiker  Wed, May 26, 2010 7:55:59pm

re: #247 Alouette

IT IS VERY DANGEROUS if you are over 50 and mow lawn, or shovel snow. (In Michigan, possible on the same day)

Just stay hydrated and take a break before it gets out of hand. I do all sorts of stuff out of doors in all sorts of heat. But always with an eye to the limits of the possible.


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