Saturday Afternoon Music: Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers, ‘Something Good Coming’
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Here’s a beautiful song from Tom Petty’s upcoming new album, “Mojo.”
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Four More Tears Sat, May 29, 2010 1:19:18pm |
'Something Good Coming'
Isn't that what BP tried to tell us over the past few days?
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 1:23:04pm |
I love this band. They've had some great songs over the years, with "I Won't Back Down" being an all-time favorite of mine.
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Four More Tears Sat, May 29, 2010 1:26:29pm |
re: #3 Dark_Falcon
The video for "Don't Come Around Here No more" warped my 9-year old mind.
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 1:27:00pm |
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 1:27:32pm |
Does anyone know why Tom Petty almost always wears sunglasses?
Been wondering about that for years.
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Four More Tears Sat, May 29, 2010 1:28:13pm |
re: #5 reine.de.tout
On the news, you just heard this?
[Link: www.myfoxdfw.com...]
NEWSCORE - A BP executive on Saturday said the company’s “top kill” attempt to plug the leak caused by the explosion of its Deepwater Horizon rig, the worst oil spill in U.S. history, was not successful and it is now considering other methods to plug the leak, the Times-Picayune reported.
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Gus Sat, May 29, 2010 1:28:49pm |
re: #5 reine.de.tout
On the news, you just heard this?
BP said it's not working and they're considering other options. They're still running Top Kill however. That's just my opinion -- that it failed. If it was going to work the "graph" would have been swinging upwards and instead it's going the other way around.
Let me find a news article.
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Gus Sat, May 29, 2010 1:30:27pm |
BP's latest efforts haven't stopped flow of oil
By Vicki Needham - 05/29/10 03:41 PM ET
The flow of oil hasn't been stopped by British Petroleum's latest attempt to plug the gushing well.
The "top kill" operation doesn't appear to be working yet and BP is planning its next move, chief operating officer Doug Suttles said Saturday...
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 1:30:29pm |
re: #8 Gus 802
BP said it's not working and they're considering other options. They're still running Top Kill however. That's just my opinion -- that it failed. If it was going to work the "graph" would have been swinging upwards and instead it's going the other way around.
Let me find a news article.
I just saw it, CNN and then look above your last comment.
Well - the chance of it working was small, anyway.
I wonder if any of that activity we saw going on with the ROV's using the saw, etc., has to do with the future plans they're considering?
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PhillyPretzel Sat, May 29, 2010 1:30:51pm |
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windsagio Sat, May 29, 2010 1:31:31pm |
re: #6 reine.de.tout
If you saw his eyes, you'd know the terrible truth.
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MandyManners Sat, May 29, 2010 1:32:02pm |
re: #6 reine.de.tout
Does anyone know why Tom Petty almost always wears sunglasses?
Been wondering about that for years.
Stoned?
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Bagua Sat, May 29, 2010 1:32:23pm |
BP says top kill has not stopped Gulf oil leak and now considering other options
The official announcement will come in half an hour. They succeeded in increasing the size of the leak, not plugging it.
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Gus Sat, May 29, 2010 1:32:26pm |
re: #10 reine.de.tout
I just saw it, CNN and then look above your last comment.
Well - the chance of it working was small, anyway.
I wonder if any of that activity we saw going on with the ROV's using the saw, etc., has to do with the future plans they're considering?
I didn't see that. I assume the next attempt will be a junk shot.
After that it looks like August for the relief wells to be completed.
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 1:32:26pm |
re: #6 reine.de.tout
Does anyone know why Tom Petty almost always wears sunglasses?
Been wondering about that for years.
just copy catting Roy Orbison
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Gus Sat, May 29, 2010 1:33:12pm |
re: #14 Bagua
BP says top kill has not stopped Gulf oil leak and now considering other options
The official announcement will come in half an hour. They succeeded in increasing the size of the leak, not plugging it.
Yeah, I noticed that.
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Bagua Sat, May 29, 2010 1:33:39pm |
re: #15 Gus 802
I didn't see that. I assume the next attempt will be a junk shot.
After that it looks like August for the relief wells to be completed.
The junk shots already have been tried and failed. The next option is to cut the riser off at the top of the LMRP.
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 1:34:38pm |
re: #14 Bagua
BP says top kill has not stopped Gulf oil leak and now considering other options
The official announcement will come in half an hour. They succeeded in increasing the size of the leak, not plugging it.
They knew that was a possibility.
If you're watching the live stream, it's obvious.
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Gus Sat, May 29, 2010 1:35:02pm |
re: #18 Bagua
The junk shots already have been tried and failed. The next option is to cut the riser off at the top of the LMRP.
Oh, I didn't know they tried the junk shots already.
OK, my money's on August.
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Bagua Sat, May 29, 2010 1:35:03pm |
Fucking BP, said 60% - 70% chance of success, and I fell for it. Scoundrels. Austin_Blue was right, this was just "eye-wash".
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 1:35:26pm |
re: #18 Bagua
The junk shots already have been tried and failed. The next option is to cut the riser off at the top of the LMRP.
right - Bagua, on the earlier feed, the ROV was messing around with a saw. I'm wondering if they haven't already started that process.
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windsagio Sat, May 29, 2010 1:35:28pm |
re: #19 reine.de.tout
I remember bagua talking about that a fair deal when they were starting anyways, so congrats to him (I guess :p It sucks to be right about bad things)
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Gus Sat, May 29, 2010 1:36:24pm |
re: #21 Bagua
Fucking BP, said 60% - 70% chance of success, and I fell for it. Scoundrels. Austin_Blue was right, this was just "eye-wash".
I knew BP was bullshitting when they kept moving the time forward. First 2 hours, than 4 hours, then 24 hours, then 48 hours. I've seen this kind of crap before. Heck, I've even done it with far less critical work.
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Four More Tears Sat, May 29, 2010 1:36:46pm |
re: #21 Bagua
Fucking BP, said 60% - 70% chance of success, and I fell for it. Scoundrels. Austin_Blue was right, this was just "eye-wash".
Can't fault you for being optimistic. It was nice having someone around here who was...
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 1:37:07pm |
re: #21 Bagua
Fucking BP, said 60% - 70% chance of success, and I fell for it. Scoundrels. Austin_Blue was right, this was just "eye-wash".
I don't remember them saying that, but it still had to be tried.
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Four More Tears Sat, May 29, 2010 1:37:37pm |
Well... at least there was no oil coming out for those days they were pumping the mud in, right? Itty-bitty silver lining?
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 1:37:41pm |
looks like Petty cut that song at Tom's Guitar Shoppe...look at 'em all, all shiny and colorful....like candy
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Four More Tears Sat, May 29, 2010 1:37:48pm |
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Bagua Sat, May 29, 2010 1:39:04pm |
re: #20 Gus 802
Oh, I didn't know they tried the junk shots already.
OK, my money's on August.
For plugging the well, definitely. But the next step has a good chance in siphoning off significantly more than the Riser Insertion Tube.
And yes, we discussed several times the erosive nature of the heavy mud under increased pressure and the likely hood it would make the channels through the BOP larger. But let's wait for BP to release some pressure readings to confirm this. Prior to the mud pump, it was 400 psi over ambient above the stack, and 8-9,000 below.
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windsagio Sat, May 29, 2010 1:40:18pm |
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Gus Sat, May 29, 2010 1:41:43pm |
re: #30 Bagua
For plugging the well, definitely. But the next step has a good chance in siphoning off significantly more than the Riser Insertion Tube.
And yes, we discussed several times the erosive nature of the heavy mud under increased pressure and the likely hood it would make the channels through the BOP larger. But let's wait for BP to release some pressure readings to confirm this. Prior to the mud pump, it was 400 psi over ambient above the stack, and 8-9,000 below.
OK, I can wait.
In the mean time is it OK if I compare BP and this oil leak to House? /
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 1:44:10pm |
hey guys!...shake it off, we're only behind by a couple hundred million gallons and we're still in it!...we can pull this thing out!
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MandyManners Sat, May 29, 2010 1:45:04pm |
re: #34 albusteve
hey guys!...shake it off, we're only behind by a couple hundred million gallons and we're still in it!...we can pull this thing out!
Rah. Rah.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 1:46:33pm |
re: #35 MandyManners
Rah. Rah.
I'm trying to picture you in a cheerleader outfit, but the picture always includes you kicking the ass of the opposing team's cheer captain. :D
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 1:48:46pm |
what's the plan for a clean up, should it ever come to that?....there doesn't seem to be any method for keeping the oil from coming ashore...this could be cataclysmic
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nines09 Sat, May 29, 2010 1:51:27pm |
Mike Campbell is the epitome of pocket. Less is more and I'll tear your head off with one note. I think this is shot in Mr Pettys' house. Saw an article or two a while back. Tom is also one of the most underrated rhythm players of any genre. Both collections would make my eyes water, but at least they play them. Timeless and classy. Have a Great Memorial Day everyone.
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ryannon Sat, May 29, 2010 1:53:28pm |
re: #37 albusteve
what's the plan for a clean up, should it ever come to that?...there doesn't seem to be any method for keeping the oil from coming ashore...this could be cataclysmic
You don't clean mangroves, bayous and wetlands.
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Bagua Sat, May 29, 2010 1:54:30pm |
re: #31 windsagio
They tried all these techniques with the Ixtoc I, by the way, and none of them worked then either, and in only 160 feet of water >>
/sorry to be doom-and-gloomy.
I know. But the equipment and details can be very different 30 years later and in a different well. The key factor, which is unknown, is what sort of blow-out this is? If it is a back-side blow out starting at the 9 7/8" casing at 17,168 feet, it has a clear shot up the riser to the rig in this well design.
This well design left an open annulus at that casing. Why no liner hanger at that level? Halliburton and BP will need to explain this detail.
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MandyManners Sat, May 29, 2010 1:57:55pm |
re: #36 Dark_Falcon
I'm trying to picture you in a cheerleader outfit, but the picture always includes you kicking the ass of the opposing team's cheer captain. :D
And, running off with the quarter-back.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, May 29, 2010 2:01:36pm |
Tom Petty's appearances on SNL were probably the only ones I sat all the way through in maybe the last ten years. The only other one I can think of is Toots & The Maytals. I didn't watch any of U2's because they haven't done anything worth listening to since the 80s.
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brookly red Sat, May 29, 2010 2:01:43pm |
re: #41 MandyManners
And, running off with the quarter-back.
no loss of yards if your sacked off field...
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Bagua Sat, May 29, 2010 2:03:39pm |
The whole mud pump top kill attempt was the largest, literal, stock market Pump and Dump in history. All the companies involved, BP, Cameron, Transocean, Halliburton, saw about a 3% dead cat bounce on the first day when they didn't update us until the closing bell. This bounce, interrupted the 20% of so decline, and gave the them a chance to dump their stock at a more favourable price.
Pump and Dump. Pump mud and Dump stock. Brilliant, but criminal.
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Bagua Sat, May 29, 2010 2:06:28pm |
This is an LGF exclusive on the Bagua page.
Red Jacket Guy
While filming the leaking BOP during the Top Kill procedure and Junk Shot is messy business with all that nasty oil and mud spewing out. The underwater Spill Cam robot slowly surfaces to have its lens wiped.
First is a clip of the baby leaks above the BOP, then short time-lapse clips of the rise through a mile a sea water to the surface. There we see at least one drill ship and other vessels. As the robot is docked in its hanger, into internet fame Red Jack Guy walks past the camera.
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Cato the Elder Sat, May 29, 2010 2:08:45pm |
re: #44 Bagua
Wall Street is a criminal conspiracy. RICO time.
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ryannon Sat, May 29, 2010 2:11:37pm |
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Bagua Sat, May 29, 2010 2:11:50pm |
re: #47 Cato the Elder
Wall Street is a criminal conspiracy. RICO time.
In this case, Wall Street is the victim and BP is chief crook. No doubt a conspiracy as the other companies played along so they could unload their share.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 2:12:16pm |
re: #47 Cato the Elder
Wall Street is a criminal conspiracy. RICO time.
Is that sarc? With you I cannot always tell.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 2:13:14pm |
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Cato the Elder Sat, May 29, 2010 2:18:34pm |
re: #50 Dark_Falcon
Is that sarc? With you I cannot always tell.
Totally without sarcasm.
Wall Street has become the place where "all the criminals in their coats and their ties" (Bob Dylan) squeeze the last few drops of olive oil out of the real economy, sell it as virgin cold pressed, and sock it away in Cancun.
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compound idaho Sat, May 29, 2010 2:18:49pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 2:21:34pm |
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 2:22:10pm |
re: #42 Mad Al-Jaffee
Tom Petty's appearances on SNL were probably the only ones I sat all the way through in maybe the last ten years. The only other one I can think of is Toots & The Maytals. I didn't watch any of U2's because they haven't done anything worth listening to since the 80s.
there were some good SNL gigs through the early years...
the Band was excellent, and so was Little Feat
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, May 29, 2010 2:22:13pm |
Neighbors are cooking out and just invited me over. Goodbye healthy turkey sandwich for dinner, hello burger! BBL.
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Cato the Elder Sat, May 29, 2010 2:23:17pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 2:24:49pm |
Albusteve, this one is for you:
[Link: www.vevo.com...]
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ryannon Sat, May 29, 2010 2:25:00pm |
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 2:26:24pm |
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Bagua Sat, May 29, 2010 2:26:25pm |
Funny, I had unlimited back-stage passes to Tom Petty shows back in the day, but I never liked his music much.
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ryannon Sat, May 29, 2010 2:26:38pm |
re: #58 Dark_Falcon
Albusteve, this one is for you:
[Link: www.vevo.com...]
And this one is for all of us, with a special thought for Dennis Hopper:
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prairiefire Sat, May 29, 2010 2:27:09pm |
re: #57 Cato the Elder
Velazquez.
Check out the hound.
Not minding the child's foot on his back. He's used to the kids.
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Cato the Elder Sat, May 29, 2010 2:27:22pm |
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ryannon Sat, May 29, 2010 2:27:56pm |
re: #61 Bagua
Funny, I had unlimited back-stage passes to Tom Petty shows back in the day, but I never liked his music much.
And I had a personal invitation to Woodstock, including transportation and backstage passes, but I just couldn't get interested in going.
True story.
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 2:28:01pm |
re: #60 albusteve
da Boss!
oh yeah!....new Stones
I want to hear the outakes from the new release....this song is entirely new I believe
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Killgore Trout Sat, May 29, 2010 2:29:27pm |
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ryannon Sat, May 29, 2010 2:29:51pm |
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prairiefire Sat, May 29, 2010 2:29:58pm |
"Following The River" Rolling Stones. Commercial at the start.[Link: www.vevo.com...]
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 2:30:18pm |
re: #65 ryannon
And I had a personal invitation to Woodstock, including transportation and backstage passes, but I just couldn't get interested in going.
True story.
I was 17 and could not swing it...out there there was a caravan of older people from my area....I went to the First! Ann Arbor blues festival instead and I'm glad I did
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 2:30:44pm |
re: #66 albusteve
oh yeah!...new Stones
I want to hear the outakes from the new release...this song is entirely new I believe
It had a kind of gospel sound to my ears.
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prairiefire Sat, May 29, 2010 2:30:44pm |
re: #58 Dark_Falcon
Albusteve, this one is for you:
[Link: www.vevo.com...]
Woops, sorry for the repost, D_F.
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 2:31:08pm |
re: #62 ryannon
And this one is for all of us, with a special thought for Dennis Hopper:
[Video]
nice, one of my favorites....love that record
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MandyManners Sat, May 29, 2010 2:31:13pm |
re: #56 Mad Al-Jaffee
Neighbors are cooking out and just invited me over. Goodbye healthy turkey sandwich for dinner, hello burger! BBL.
I got a case of the lazy so that the pasta dish I was gonna' do last night is gonna' get pushed off until Monday night and we'll have cold pork roast on hoagies with lotsa' lettuce and Ed McCaffrey's Dijon mustard. And, some steak fries.
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ryannon Sat, May 29, 2010 2:32:14pm |
re: #71 albusteve
I was 17 and could not swing it...out there there was a caravan of older people from my area...I went to the First! Ann Arbor blues festival instead and I'm glad I did
All told, it was probably the best choice.
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 2:32:16pm |
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prairiefire Sat, May 29, 2010 2:32:50pm |
Filets on the grill pan, corn on the cob, Annie's Peace, Pasta, and parmesan, fresh salad.
Shrimp poppers for my boy.
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 2:33:36pm |
re: #76 ryannon
All told, it was probably the best choice.
I'm a blues fan....I SAW Son House play....
[Link: www.bluelunch.com...]
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ryannon Sat, May 29, 2010 2:34:13pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 2:35:13pm |
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Cato the Elder Sat, May 29, 2010 2:36:12pm |
re: #78 prairiefire
Filets on the grill pan, corn on the cob, Annie's Peace, Pasta, and parmesan, fresh salad.
Shrimp poppers for my boy.
I can beat that.
My New Mexico grrrlfriend is in town. We're heading down to Obrycki's in a couple of hours to eat the last of the affordable crabs before the Gulf oil spill ruins the fishery.
We shall drink Natty Boh and eat of the meat of the beautiful swimmers until we can't stand up anymore.
Then Haku will drive us home.
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prairiefire Sat, May 29, 2010 2:38:09pm |
re: #82 Cato the Elder
Sounds good. I'm going to buy some King Crab, one of these days. One of the most dangerous creatures to harvest.
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MandyManners Sat, May 29, 2010 2:38:15pm |
re: #82 Cato the Elder
I can beat that.
My New Mexico grrrlfriend is in town. We're heading down to Obrycki's in a couple of hours to eat the last of the affordable crabs before the Gulf oil spill ruins the fishery.
We shall drink Natty Boh and eat of the meat of the beautiful swimmers until we can't stand up anymore.
Then Haku will drive us home.
Your dog drives?
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Bagua Sat, May 29, 2010 2:38:34pm |
re: #82 Cato the Elder
I can beat that.
My New Mexico grrrlfriend is in town. We're heading down to Obrycki's in a couple of hours to eat the last of the affordable crabs before the Gulf oil spill ruins the fishery.
We shall drink Natty Boh and eat of the meat of the beautiful swimmers until we can't stand up anymore.
Then Haku will drive us home.
Haku is a hell of a dog.
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 2:38:40pm |
re: #82 Cato the Elder
I can beat that.
My New Mexico grrrlfriend is in town. We're heading down to Obrycki's in a couple of hours to eat the last of the affordable crabs before the Gulf oil spill ruins the fishery.
We shall drink Natty Boh and eat of the meat of the beautiful swimmers until we can't stand up anymore.
Then Haku will drive us home.
Oh, Cato.
Louisiana's not the only place that has affordable crabs/shrimp!
That's straight from the mouth of one of those classy BP officials.
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Four More Tears Sat, May 29, 2010 2:38:53pm |
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prairiefire Sat, May 29, 2010 2:39:08pm |
re: #83 prairiefire
Sounds good. I'm going to buy some King Crab, one of these days. One of the most dangerous creatures to harvest.
Oh, great.
Sounds good. I'm going to buy some King crab, one of these days. One of the most dangerous creatures to harvest.
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MandyManners Sat, May 29, 2010 2:39:44pm |
re: #88 prairiefire
Oh, great.
Sounds good. I'm going to buy some King crab, one of these days. One of the most dangerous creatures to harvest.
I wondered what was up with that post.
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Bagua Sat, May 29, 2010 2:40:55pm |
re: #86 reine.de.tout
Oh, Cato.
Louisiana's not the only place that has affordable crabs/shrimp!
That's straight from the mouth of one of those classy BP officials.
Yep, I'm stocking up on New England stuffed clams to get ahead of the knock on price increases as clam lovers bid up the price of clams everywhere.
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 2:41:51pm |
Son House....living legend
the great grandaddy of all the old Blues men
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 2:42:17pm |
re: #86 reine.de.tout
Oh, Cato.
Louisiana's not the only place that has affordable crabs/shrimp!
That's straight from the mouth of one of those classy BP officials.
The person who said that should be arrested, flown down to Galveston, dragged into a local bar and the tape of his remarks should be played. After which, the US Marshals who brought him in should inform the patrons they'll be back in ten minutes and won't investigate anything that happens in the meantime. Then the locals get to show him what they think of his callous little remark.
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Four More Tears Sat, May 29, 2010 2:43:41pm |
re: #92 Dark_Falcon
Seems a little extreme, even for such a dickish remark.
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prairiefire Sat, May 29, 2010 2:43:49pm |
I want to get back into the food business. It's an interesting field. The chicken prices would spike up when an ice storm in Arkansas would collapse chicken coops. Boneless, skinless breast prices were set weekly by the bidding in GA.
Plus, food co.s have deep pockets.
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Bear Sat, May 29, 2010 2:44:34pm |
re: #82 Cato the Elder
If you can hold off until June 16 you may be able to get fresh dungeness crab here in SE Alaska. Or you could catch your own with a fishing license and charter a boat.
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Cato the Elder Sat, May 29, 2010 2:44:42pm |
re: #87 JasonA
Wow. That's dog's more impressive than his owner.
One doesn't own a Haku. He consents to live with you.
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MandyManners Sat, May 29, 2010 2:45:39pm |
re: #93 JasonA
Seems a little extreme, even for such a dickish remark.
People's livelihoods are gone. Some folks take that pretty personal.
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compound idaho Sat, May 29, 2010 2:45:49pm |
re: #90 Bagua
Yep, I'm stocking up on New England stuffed clams to get ahead of the knock on price increases as clam lovers bid up the price of clams everywhere.
Rocky Mtn. oysters and Budweiser!
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MandyManners Sat, May 29, 2010 2:46:24pm |
re: #95 Bear
If you can hold off until June 16 you may be able to get fresh dungeness crab here in SE Alaska. Or you could catch your own with a fishing license and charter a boat.
Sarah would be glad to take him out in her boat!
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 2:46:27pm |
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MandyManners Sat, May 29, 2010 2:46:50pm |
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Four More Tears Sat, May 29, 2010 2:47:00pm |
re: #97 MandyManners
People's livelihoods are gone. Some folks take that pretty personal.
Uh huh. So we should let him get lynched because he said some words that are really stupid?
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MandyManners Sat, May 29, 2010 2:47:35pm |
re: #102 JasonA
Uh huh. So we should let him get lynched because he said some words that are really stupid?
Who said anything about lynching?
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Cathypop Sat, May 29, 2010 2:48:05pm |
re: #95 Bear
If you can hold off until June 16 you may be able to get fresh dungeness crab here in SE Alaska. Or you could catch your own with a fishing license and charter a boat.
I look forward to Sept. when my bil goes to fish in Alaska. I always get a care package of salmon, halibut and his wonderful smoked salmon.
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Bear Sat, May 29, 2010 2:48:14pm |
re: #99 MandyManners
Wrong area. About 1000 miles away from here.
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Bagua Sat, May 29, 2010 2:48:17pm |
re: #102 JasonA
Uh huh. So we should let him get lynched because he said some words that are really stupid?
Those good people wouldn't lynch him, just give him the beating he deserves.
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ryannon Sat, May 29, 2010 2:49:22pm |
re: #102 JasonA
Uh huh. So we should let him get lynched because he said some words that are really stupid?
No one's getting lynched. Sometimes we just indulge in wishful thinking - things we wouldn't allow to happen in reality.
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Bear Sat, May 29, 2010 2:49:47pm |
re: #104 Cathypop
King salmon derby this weekend. Almost impossible to find a parking spot in the harbor lots.
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 2:50:23pm |
re: #101 MandyManners
Have you ever seen a tray of those?
I've eaten pounds of them, once inna while you get one a bit rubbery tho....delicious, like gizzards
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 2:51:47pm |
re: #102 JasonA
Uh huh. So we should let him get lynched because he said some words that are really stupid?
hahaha!...are you of this planet?
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MandyManners Sat, May 29, 2010 2:52:25pm |
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Four More Tears Sat, May 29, 2010 2:52:45pm |
re: #110 albusteve
I know. I'm such a noob compared to you, Steve.
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compound idaho Sat, May 29, 2010 2:52:52pm |
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MandyManners Sat, May 29, 2010 2:52:58pm |
re: #109 albusteve
I've eaten pounds of them, once inna while you get one a bit rubbery tho...delicious, like gizzards
I almost ate one but I chickened out.
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MandyManners Sat, May 29, 2010 2:53:27pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 2:54:07pm |
re: #102 JasonA
Uh huh. So we should let him get lynched because he said some words that are really stupid?
I wouldn't want him lynched. I was joking around and even in so doing, all I'd want is to have him get his ass kicked. I don't want him dead, I just think a person who says something that smarmy and callous should have to pay for having said it.
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 2:54:27pm |
re: #112 JasonA
I know. I'm such a noob compared to you, Steve.
that's got nothing to do with it...take a little peek between the lines once in a while
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 2:55:05pm |
re: #114 MandyManners
I almost ate one but I chickened out.
then you are not worthy of the Quarterback
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 2:57:00pm |
the most famous blues riff ever
Elmore James
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Cathypop Sat, May 29, 2010 2:58:52pm |
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MandyManners Sat, May 29, 2010 3:00:02pm |
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MandyManners Sat, May 29, 2010 3:00:34pm |
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 3:01:16pm |
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windsagio Sat, May 29, 2010 3:01:35pm |
re: #93 JasonA
For the record, you're absolutely right :p
People say the damndest things sometimes tho', when they're off on rage-jags.
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 3:01:49pm |
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MandyManners Sat, May 29, 2010 3:02:49pm |
re: #123 albusteve
did you share his oysters or not?
You do know what we're talking about, don't you?
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 3:03:18pm |
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 3:03:33pm |
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Cathypop Sat, May 29, 2010 3:04:01pm |
re: #125 albusteve
wow, someone cares!...astounding
It was the thought of the quarterback and oysters that did it.
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 3:05:30pm |
re: #124 windsagio
For the record, you're absolutely right :p
People say the damndest things sometimes tho', when they're off on rage-jags.
my rage-jag? is strong....I believe the BP insulter should be....tar and feathered!
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Bagua Sat, May 29, 2010 3:05:56pm |
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windsagio Sat, May 29, 2010 3:06:20pm |
re: #130 albusteve
Of course you do Steve, thats why we love you :D
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 3:07:25pm |
re: #131 Bagua
Bad Luck and Trouble
[Video]
- Lightnin' Hopkins
goin to Texas eh?
some early blues porn
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, May 29, 2010 3:10:13pm |
Hi Lizards!
I have what is called a real sunburn..Dang it!
My Tee-shirt feels like I have a flame thrower on...
/
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Cathypop Sat, May 29, 2010 3:11:47pm |
re: #134 HoosierHoops
Hi Lizards!
I have what is called a real sunburn..Dang it!
My Tee-shirt feels like I have a flame thrower on...
/
She is that HOT?
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Cato the Elder Sat, May 29, 2010 3:11:55pm |
Penelope Cruz has the most beautiful, er, ears I've ever seen in my life.
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windsagio Sat, May 29, 2010 3:12:06pm |
re: #134 HoosierHoops
Its still raining out here, dunno which of us should be jealous >>
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, May 29, 2010 3:13:41pm |
re: #135 Cathypop
She is that HOT?
Yesterday at the track and most of the day at the pool.. I look like a freaking lobster..
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, May 29, 2010 3:13:42pm |
I might fucking lose my state. I am fucking pissed. I need a nap.
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Varek Raith Sat, May 29, 2010 3:15:18pm |
re: #138 HoosierHoops
Yesterday at the track and most of the day at the pool.. I look like a freaking lobster..
Hi Zoidberg!
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goddamnedfrank Sat, May 29, 2010 3:15:50pm |
re: #93 JasonA
Seems a little extreme, even for such a dickish remark.
I don't know, I've heard of more insulting uses for idiotic executives.
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brookly red Sat, May 29, 2010 3:17:38pm |
re: #136 Cato the Elder
Penelope Cruz has the most beautiful, er, ears I've ever seen in my life.
/get a grip...
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prairiefire Sat, May 29, 2010 3:20:32pm |
I found my Merrels in my messy closet. I am now ready for summer:[Link: www.merrell.com...]
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 3:21:28pm |
re: #141 goddamnedfrank
I don't know, I've heard of more insulting uses for idiotic executives.
What's worse is what the power is used for: It's used on trolls to treat severe butthurt. Torgo's Executive Power can, over the course of a week, even remove the impression left by Charles' bicycle cleat when he boots a troll.
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 3:24:02pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, May 29, 2010 3:24:20pm |
North Dakota, Oklahoma, Nebraska...Not sure where to go. ( I am just projecting here, sorry)
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Cato the Elder Sat, May 29, 2010 3:24:49pm |
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Bagua Sat, May 29, 2010 3:25:20pm |
Taking a look at well construction.
Jetting of a Conductor
This is the Dalia Field, varying from 3,900 to 4,900 feet.
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Varek Raith Sat, May 29, 2010 3:25:30pm |
re: #146 Cannadian Club Akbar
North Dakota, Oklahoma, Nebraska...Not sure where to go. ( I am just projecting here, sorry)
What's up?
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cliffster Sat, May 29, 2010 3:26:46pm |
guess there's still oil spewing all over the gulf. That sucks
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 3:26:48pm |
re: #146 Cannadian Club Akbar
North Dakota, Oklahoma, Nebraska...Not sure where to go. ( I am just projecting here, sorry)
get lost in NM...problems solved
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cliffster Sat, May 29, 2010 3:28:21pm |
re: #146 Cannadian Club Akbar
North Dakota, Oklahoma, Nebraska...Not sure where to go. ( I am just projecting here, sorry)
You could get anchored down in Anchorage...
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Bagua Sat, May 29, 2010 3:28:36pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 3:28:59pm |
re: #144 Dark_Falcon
What's worse is what the powder is used for: It's used on trolls to treat severe butthurt. Torgo's Executive Powder can, over the course of a week, even remove the impression left by Charles' bicycle cleat when he boots a troll.
PIMF
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Bagua Sat, May 29, 2010 3:29:51pm |
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 3:32:39pm |
what makes SRV so smoking hot?...his signature songs
but he got it from Elmore James, who wrote it
it all comes from somewhere
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Varek Raith Sat, May 29, 2010 3:34:59pm |
'Top kill' fails to stop flow of oil, BP says
Venice, Louisiana (CNN) -- BP's "top kill" attempt to stop the flow of oil from a ruptured well in the Gulf of Mexico failed, the company's chief operating officer said Saturday.The oil giant has tried for days to stop the the largest oil spill in U.S. history by pumping heavy, mudlike drilling fluid into a ruptured oil well, a method known as "top kill."
The next option is to place a custom-built cap known as the "lower marine riser package" over the leak, the company's chief operating officer, Doug Suttles said. BP crews were working Saturday to ready the materials for that option should it become necessary, he said.
"We've been prepping that all along in case we need to move to that option," he said. "People want to know which technique is going to work, and I don't know."
And if "lower marine riser package" were to fail, he said, BP engineers would try placing a second blowout preventer on top of the first, which failed to cut of the oil flow after the April 20 explosion of the Deepwater Horizon rig. The failed blowout preventer is a 48-foot-tall, 450-ton apparatus that sits atop the well 5,000 feet underwater.
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MandyManners Sat, May 29, 2010 3:36:48pm |
re: #146 Cannadian Club Akbar
North Dakota, Oklahoma, Nebraska...Not sure where to go. ( I am just projecting here, sorry)
What in the world?
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 3:38:01pm |
re: #158 Varek Raith
at this point we need some sort of extra terrestrial help...obviously it's beyond BP, the Feds, and even the A Team....we are truly fucked....god has smitten us
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Bagua Sat, May 29, 2010 3:38:05pm |
Whale visits a robot working on a deepwater well.
Very cool, the ROV operators stop what they are doing and follow the whale with the camera.
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 3:38:40pm |
re: #162 Bagua
Whale visits a robot working on a deepwater well.
[Video]
Very cool, the ROV operators stop what they are doing and follow the whale with the camera.
maybe the last one...who knows
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 3:39:09pm |
re: #143 prairiefire
I found my Merrels in my messy closet. I am now ready for summer:[Link: www.merrell.com...]
Very comfortable footwear. I had a pair of Merrel shoes I wore until they finally fell apart.
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Obdicut Sat, May 29, 2010 3:40:34pm |
re: #161 albusteve
God didn't do this. We did this to ourselves.
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ryannon Sat, May 29, 2010 3:40:35pm |
re: #161 albusteve
at this point we need some sort of extra terrestrial help...obviously it's beyond BP, the Feds, and even the A Team...we are truly fucked...god has smitten us
Relax. The pocket of oil will empty out on its own in just seven years.
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prairiefire Sat, May 29, 2010 3:41:49pm |
This is fun. I will have to repost for SFZ. Hilary Clinton is now the most popular American politician who has held elected office:[Link: www.openleft.com...]
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 3:43:09pm |
re: #163 albusteve
maybe the last one...who knows
Sperm Whales aren't that few in numbers anymore. That's the whale seem in the video. They have a very different head than a baleen whale. The long scar is likely from a giant squid, the sperm whale's favorite food.
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Taqyia2Me Sat, May 29, 2010 3:43:10pm |
OT Good News:
The new cookbook is here! The new cookbook is here!
Things are gonna start happening to me now! -( Navin Johnson)
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 3:43:56pm |
re: #165 Obdicut
God didn't do this. We did this to ourselves.
God has a hand in everything...he's pissed
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 3:44:45pm |
re: #165 Obdicut
God didn't do this. We did this to ourselves.
Well, God put the oil there (or at least set the process in motion that put it there). But we're the ones who fucked up the extraction.
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 3:45:56pm |
re: #166 ryannon
Relax. The pocket of oil will empty out on its own in just seven years.
the new asphalt jungle....we can walk from NOLA to Cancun
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brookly red Sat, May 29, 2010 3:46:14pm |
re: #165 Obdicut
God didn't do this. We did this to ourselves.
I get the feeling BP's insurance company would really really like this to be considered an act of God...
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wrenchwench Sat, May 29, 2010 3:46:58pm |
re: #158 Varek Raith
"lower marine riser package"
I'll bet that's a lot less interesting than it sounds.
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 3:47:19pm |
re: #173 brookly red
I get the feeling BP's insurance company would really really like this to be considered an act of God...
if I'm dictator, BP will no longer exist when this is over...a footnote in a book
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prairiefire Sat, May 29, 2010 3:47:27pm |
Doesn't this doll's face sculpt look like Obama? Snatch them up now before Marvel is forced to pull them off the market.[Link: www.sideshowtoy.com...]
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ryannon Sat, May 29, 2010 3:49:00pm |
re: #172 albusteve
the new asphalt jungle...we can walk from NOLA to Cancun
And BP will charge a toll for the use of the road.
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Bagua Sat, May 29, 2010 3:49:34pm |
Running Casing on the Ocean Titan in the Gulf of Mexico
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MandyManners Sat, May 29, 2010 3:50:21pm |
re: #173 brookly red
I get the feeling BP's insurance company would really really like this to be considered an act of God...
Lloyds is not happy.
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 3:50:41pm |
re: #177 ryannon
And BP will charge a toll for the use of the road.
ha!...that's how it works too
GO BP!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, May 29, 2010 3:52:35pm |
I have a great idea, and you can say your side said it. "Plug the fucking hole". Ya know, everyone tries to get "points" these days for being a politician. Why don't they care about America? I have skin in this game. Lots.
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Kragar Sat, May 29, 2010 3:52:43pm |
Just got back from almost 5 hours at the zoo. Havent walked that much in a long time.
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Varek Raith Sat, May 29, 2010 3:53:12pm |
re: #182 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Just got back from almost 5 hours at the zoo. Havent walked that much in a long time.
Capital Hill?
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ryannon Sat, May 29, 2010 3:53:56pm |
re: #180 albusteve
ha!...that's how it works too
GO BP!
See? God wants us all to be happy. You, me, BP....
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Kragar Sat, May 29, 2010 3:54:27pm |
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 3:56:34pm |
for Reine, her kin, her friends, her kins friends and all the fine people down in Louisiana...proud, hardworking neighbors and all around tough people that make something from the land and the water...go there and enjoy maybe the most unique subculture left is this land
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Aceofwhat? Sat, May 29, 2010 3:57:08pm |
re: #143 prairiefire
I found my Merrels in my messy closet. I am now ready for summer:[Link: www.merrell.com...]
Nice! Merrels are the real deal...
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, May 29, 2010 3:57:17pm |
re: #185 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
San Diego zoo, took the kids, tired and nursing a sun burn
LOL...When I was TDY at Ballast point in SD we took the kids to Lego land
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 3:57:18pm |
re: #183 Varek Raith
Capital Hill?
LOL! Good one. But I'd prefer to think of the Capital Building as "The Money Pit".
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 3:57:53pm |
re: #190 Dark_Falcon
LOL! Good one. But I'd prefer to think of the Capital Building as "The Money Pit".
"two weeks!"
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ryannon Sat, May 29, 2010 3:58:09pm |
re: #186 MikeySDCA
You know what they say about the Lloyd's building. The plumbing is on the outside and the arseholes are on the inside."
One of the oldest companies in the world. They must be doing something right.
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Kragar Sat, May 29, 2010 4:00:19pm |
re: #192 ryannon
One of the oldest companies in the world. They must be doing something right.
Nobody likes a winner.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, May 29, 2010 4:01:10pm |
I'm gonna jump off before I give myself a heart attack.
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 4:02:26pm |
what a depressing thread...can't get a rise out of anyone
time to bath, relax and count my blessings
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Varek Raith Sat, May 29, 2010 4:03:57pm |
re: #194 Cannadian Club Akbar
I'm gonna jump off before I give myself a heart attack.
Go relax.
Have a beer.
Blow up some planets.
:)
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darthstar Sat, May 29, 2010 4:04:40pm |
Just got back from running/swimming the dogs on the beach...beautiful day out there...light winds, damn near 70 degrees...Now I'm going to take what's left of the six pound rack of pork I roasted last night (about 5lbs) and make a batch of tamales. Wish me luck.
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brookly red Sat, May 29, 2010 4:06:17pm |
re: #197 darthstar
Just got back from running/swimming the dogs on the beach...beautiful day out there...light winds, damn near 70 degrees...Now I'm going to take what's left of the six pound rack of pork I roasted last night (about 5lbs) and make a batch of tamales. Wish me luck.
what could possibly go wrong ?
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darthstar Sat, May 29, 2010 4:07:48pm |
re: #162 Bagua
Whale visits a robot working on a deepwater well.
[Video]
Very cool, the ROV operators stop what they are doing and follow the whale with the camera.
I think the whale is saying, "Don't fuck this try up, guys."
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darthstar Sat, May 29, 2010 4:08:00pm |
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brookly red Sat, May 29, 2010 4:10:01pm |
re: #200 darthstar
I could eat them all.
maybe you should like take the first pound & make sandwiches to eat with beer while your cooking so as to reduce the temptation?
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darthstar Sat, May 29, 2010 4:11:20pm |
re: #143 prairiefire
I found my Merrels in my messy closet. I am now ready for summer:[Link: www.merrell.com...]
I have a few pairs of Merrells...love them.
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cliffster Sat, May 29, 2010 4:12:01pm |
re: #197 darthstar
Just got back from running/swimming the dogs on the beach...beautiful day out there...light winds, damn near 70 degrees...Now I'm going to take what's left of the six pound rack of pork I roasted last night (about 5lbs) and make a batch of tamales. Wish me luck.
Hard to screw that up. Make sure you have your papers handy though
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darthstar Sat, May 29, 2010 4:12:09pm |
re: #201 brookly red
maybe you should like take the first pound & make sandwiches to eat with beer while your cooking so as to reduce the temptation?
I ate lunch already...just relaxing for a few before I mess up the kitchen again. The long part's done (cooking the pork)...the rest of the effort should take about an hour.
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darthstar Sat, May 29, 2010 4:12:20pm |
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Varek Raith Sat, May 29, 2010 4:12:55pm |
re: #203 Varek Raith
Ah, crap.
I killed the thread.
What the...?
The auto comment setting appears to no be working for me....?
Also, when I post, the page resets to the top...
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Aceofwhat? Sat, May 29, 2010 4:12:57pm |
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cliffster Sat, May 29, 2010 4:14:31pm |
re: #205 darthstar
I ate lunch already...just relaxing for a few before I mess up the kitchen again. The long part's done (cooking the pork)...the rest of the effort should take about an hour.
got masa?
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darthstar Sat, May 29, 2010 4:15:54pm |
re: #209 cliffster
got masa?
Yep...a 5lb bag of it...going to start with about 2 cups and see how far that takes me, then make more if I need it. Got three bags of corn husks to work with and some pepper jack cheese to add to some of the tamales.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 4:17:32pm |
re: #196 Varek Raith
Go relax.
Have a beer.
Blow up some planets.
:)
Not all of us have Superlasers, Varek. ;)
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Bagua Sat, May 29, 2010 4:18:45pm |
re: #210 darthstar
Yep...a 5lb bag of it...going to start with about 2 cups and see how far that takes me, then make more if I need it. Got three bags of corn husks to work with and some pepper jack cheese to add to some of the tamales.
I'll be by at 5pm with the beer and some drilling videos. Gripping stuff.
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cliffster Sat, May 29, 2010 4:19:28pm |
re: #210 darthstar
Yep...a 5lb bag of it...going to start with about 2 cups and see how far that takes me, then make more if I need it. Got three bags of corn husks to work with and some pepper jack cheese to add to some of the tamales.
When I was a boy-kid, Christmas time meant tamale time. Mom and the sisters did it the old fashioned way - grinder on the side of the counter, corn husks by the billions. Big tamale cooker pot, kept busy all day. We'd have a tamale eating contest at supper. I don't know what tradition that is, but it was our tradition.
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prairiefire Sat, May 29, 2010 4:20:40pm |
re: #210 darthstar
Yep...a 5lb bag of it...going to start with about 2 cups and see how far that takes me, then make more if I need it. Got three bags of corn husks to work with and some pepper jack cheese to add to some of the tamales.
Be sure to shake out the corn husks. Sometimes they have little dried up bugs in them.
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Bagua Sat, May 29, 2010 4:22:21pm |
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Aceofwhat? Sat, May 29, 2010 4:22:38pm |
re: #214 prairiefire
Be sure to shake out the corn husks. Sometimes they have little dried up bugs in them.
protein and chitin are good for you...
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wrenchwench Sat, May 29, 2010 4:22:40pm |
re: #213 cliffster
When I was a boy-kid, Christmas time meant tamale time. Mom and the sisters did it the old fashioned way - grinder on the side of the counter, corn husks by the billions. Big tamale cooker pot, kept busy all day. We'd have a tamale eating contest at supper. I don't know what tradition that is, but it was our tradition.
Around here all the restaurants sell tamales by the dozens at Christmastime. For those less enterprising than your Mom and darthstar.
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Aceofwhat? Sat, May 29, 2010 4:22:56pm |
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cliffster Sat, May 29, 2010 4:23:23pm |
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darthstar Sat, May 29, 2010 4:26:20pm |
re: #212 Bagua
I'll be by at 5pm with the beer and some drilling videos. Gripping stuff.
Sucks about the Top Kill/Junk Shot combo...but it didn't work in 160 feet of water in 1979, so they were pretty sure it wouldn't work today. Let's hope the new smaller Top Hat method is able to funnel most of the oil up to waiting tankers and they can reduce the amount of oil blowing into the gulf by a significant factor.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 4:27:09pm |
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cliffster Sat, May 29, 2010 4:28:07pm |
re: #218 wrenchwench
Around here all the restaurants sell tamales by the dozens at Christmastime. For those less enterprising than your Mom and darthstar.
Necessity is the mother of enterprising, to bastardize an expression. Beans, cornbread, tamales - all of these things can be made for next to nothing. That comes in handy when you have next to nothing. That, and the process brings everyone together.
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Killgore Trout Sat, May 29, 2010 4:30:28pm |
I just had a very awkward encounter. I just caught a neighbor digging up plants in my garden. I couldn't believe what I was seeing, I shouted at him to stop but he just picked up the plants and started walking away. I guess he knew he was busted and was hoping I'd just let him walk away with my plants. I followed him down to his house and made him put them back. I never met the guy before, what an asshole.
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Aceofwhat? Sat, May 29, 2010 4:32:13pm |
re: #224 Killgore Trout
I just had a very awkward encounter. I just caught a neighbor digging up plants in my garden. I couldn't believe what I was seeing, I shouted at him to stop but he just picked up the plants and started walking away. I guess he knew he was busted and was hoping I'd just let him walk away with my plants. I followed him down to his house and made him put them back. I never met the guy before, what an asshole.
...wtf...what a weird and shitty thing to do...
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Bagua Sat, May 29, 2010 4:32:22pm |
BP issues Press Release
"BP started the "top kill" operations to stop the flow of oil from the MC252 well in the Gulf of Mexico at 1300 CDT on May 26, 2010.
The procedure was intended to stem the flow of oil and gas and ultimately kill the well by injecting heavy drilling fluids through the blow-out preventer on the seabed, down into the well.
Despite successfully pumping a total of over 30,000 barrels of heavy mud, in three attempts at rates of up to 80 barrels a minute, and deploying a wide range of different bridging materials, the operation did not overcome the flow from the well.
The Government, together with BP, have therefore decided to move to the next step in the subsea operations, the deployment of the Lower Marine Riser Package (LMRP) Cap Containment System.
The operational plan first involves cutting and then removing the damaged riser from the top of the failed Blow-Out Preventer (BOP) to leave a cleanly-cut pipe at the top of the BOP’s LMRP. The cap is designed to be connected to a riser from the Discoverer Enterprise drillship and placed over the LMRP with the intention of capturing most of the oil and gas flowing from the well. The LMRP cap is already on site and it is currently anticipated that it will be connected in about four days.
This operation has not been previously carried out in 5,000 feet of water and the successful deployment of the containment system cannot be assured.
Drilling of the first relief well continues and is currently at 12,090 feet. Drilling of the second relief well is temporarily suspended and is expected to recommence shortly from 8,576 feet."
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wrenchwench Sat, May 29, 2010 4:33:15pm |
re: #224 Killgore Trout
Might be worth making a police report to start a file in case he does it again. How far away is his house?
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wrenchwench Sat, May 29, 2010 4:33:44pm |
re: #223 cliffster
Necessity is the mother of enterprising, to bastardize an expression. Beans, cornbread, tamales - all of these things can be made for next to nothing. That comes in handy when you have next to nothing. That, and the process brings everyone together.
I bet it smelled great.
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Racer X Sat, May 29, 2010 4:35:18pm |
re: #224 Killgore Trout
I just had a very awkward encounter. I just caught a neighbor digging up plants in my garden. I couldn't believe what I was seeing, I shouted at him to stop but he just picked up the plants and started walking away. I guess he knew he was busted and was hoping I'd just let him walk away with my plants. I followed him down to his house and made him put them back. I never met the guy before, what an asshole.
Holy Crap!
Talk about balls.
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 4:35:46pm |
re: #224 Killgore Trout
I just had a very awkward encounter. I just caught a neighbor digging up plants in my garden. I couldn't believe what I was seeing, I shouted at him to stop but he just picked up the plants and started walking away. I guess he knew he was busted and was hoping I'd just let him walk away with my plants. I followed him down to his house and made him put them back. I never met the guy before, what an asshole.
O.M.G.
How very strange!
We had a neighbor who did the same thing, walked around the neighborhood digging up plants, even saw him down by the shopping mall digging up their landscaping.
The guy was not mentally right. Does this guy have a family living with him? You might try to let them know, that behavior is so odd, there could be something wrong with him.
If that doesn't work, of course, you can always get some leaves from a yucca plant, and stick 'em in the ground around your plants, as an incentive for the guy to STOP taking your plants.
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Killgore Trout Sat, May 29, 2010 4:36:00pm |
re: #226 cliffster
C'mon, now. No way
Seriously. I've had people do that before too. Someone once stole a very nice large planter off my front porch once. Plants get stolen every once in a while too. I encourage people pick flowers or fruit from my parking strip but this guy was in my yard with a shovel.
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 4:36:45pm |
re: #232 Killgore Trout
Seriously. I've had people do that before too. Someone once stole a very nice large planter off my front porch once. Plants get stolen every once in a while too. I encourage people pick flowers or fruit from my parking strip but this guy was in my yard with a shovel.
He had a shovel?
Did he give you any reason why he took 'em?
That is so strange . ..
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 4:36:52pm |
re: #228 wrenchwench
Might be worth making a police report to start a file in case he does it again. How far away is his house?
Agreed. But the cops might not be willing to take a report, given that he put the plants back.
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Aceofwhat? Sat, May 29, 2010 4:36:58pm |
re: #232 Killgore Trout
Seriously. I've had people do that before too. Someone once stole a very nice large planter off my front porch once. Plants get stolen every once in a while too. I encourage people pick flowers or fruit from my parking strip but this guy was in my yard with a shovel.
psycho
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Killgore Trout Sat, May 29, 2010 4:37:11pm |
re: #228 wrenchwench
Might be worth making a police report to start a file in case he does it again. How far away is his house?
He's a few doors down, I think he's stolen a few plants from me now that I think about it. Hopefully now that he's busted he'll be too embarrassed to try it again.
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Bagua Sat, May 29, 2010 4:37:20pm |
How cheerful, the second relief well is on pause button.
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cliffster Sat, May 29, 2010 4:37:38pm |
re: #229 wrenchwench
I bet it smelled great.
I'll always remember that smell. The laughter, the togetherness, and the good food - that's what Christmas was all about. This is when I was much younger. It wasn't until I was older and knew that we were without, that I felt like I was without.
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Racer X Sat, May 29, 2010 4:37:45pm |
re: #236 Killgore Trout
He's a few doors down, I think he's stolen a few plants from me now that I think about it. Hopefully now that he's busted he'll be too embarrassed to try it again.
Did he say anything?
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tradewind Sat, May 29, 2010 4:38:52pm |
Full-screen this and prepare to be amazed..... ( specially love the claymation lizard @ 1:42)...
[Link: felldowntherabbithole.tumblr.com...]
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Killgore Trout Sat, May 29, 2010 4:39:13pm |
re: #231 reine.de.tout
Some people get compulsive with things like that. There were a couple ladies arrested here a few years ago with a backyard piled high with 100's of stolen lawn ornaments. The would just see something they liked and come back at night to steal it. Odd.
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Bagua Sat, May 29, 2010 4:39:16pm |
Step away from the tomatoes and nobody gets hurt.
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 4:40:05pm |
re: #238 cliffster
I'll always remember that smell. The laughter, the togetherness, and the good food - that's what Christmas was all about. This is when I was much younger. It wasn't until I was older and knew that we were without, that I felt like I was without.
If you had gotten lots and lots of presents you would have forgotten them by now.
This, your family's tradition, you remember. And very fondly, sounds like.
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Killgore Trout Sat, May 29, 2010 4:40:35pm |
re: #233 reine.de.tout
He had a shovel?
Did he give you any reason why he took 'em?
That is so strange . ..
Just just babbled about he didn't think I'd miss them and "they were just there so I thought.....".
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tradewind Sat, May 29, 2010 4:40:43pm |
re: #224 Killgore Trout
A neighbor??
That sux.
And you should spread the word to your other neighbors, as a heads-up.
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prairiefire Sat, May 29, 2010 4:41:22pm |
re: #224 Killgore Trout
I just had a very awkward encounter. I just caught a neighbor digging up plants in my garden. I couldn't believe what I was seeing, I shouted at him to stop but he just picked up the plants and started walking away. I guess he knew he was busted and was hoping I'd just let him walk away with my plants. I followed him down to his house and made him put them back. I never met the guy before, what an asshole.
That's trespassing!
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brookly red Sat, May 29, 2010 4:41:30pm |
re: #224 Killgore Trout
I just had a very awkward encounter. I just caught a neighbor digging up plants in my garden. I couldn't believe what I was seeing, I shouted at him to stop but he just picked up the plants and started walking away. I guess he knew he was busted and was hoping I'd just let him walk away with my plants. I followed him down to his house and made him put them back. I never met the guy before, what an asshole.
what kinds of plants would cause a man to act in such away?
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 4:42:04pm |
re: #245 Killgore Trout
Just just babbled about he didn't think I'd miss them and "they were just there so I thought...".
ROFL.
That is odd.
I don't blame you for being really pissed off.
btw - you know your landscaping has value, and if you do end up losing plants or having damage to your yard, you can file a claim with your insurance company. We've done it a few times when people have gone off the road and left hugs ruts in our yard that had to be repaired, and with the trees we've lost during hurricanes.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 4:42:04pm |
re: #242 Killgore Trout
Some people get compulsive with things like that. There were a couple ladies arrested here a few years ago with a backyard piled high with 100's of stolen lawn ornaments. The would just see something they liked and come back at night to steal it. Odd.
I hope they got a nice jail sentence for that.
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brookly red Sat, May 29, 2010 4:42:36pm |
re: #245 Killgore Trout
Just just babbled about he didn't think I'd miss them and "they were just there so I thought...".
well perhaps no one would miss him either...
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Bagua Sat, May 29, 2010 4:42:43pm |
re: #248 brookly red
what kinds of plants would cause a man to act in such away?
Theft of marijuana plants is a multi-million dollar menace.
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cliffster Sat, May 29, 2010 4:42:46pm |
re: #248 brookly red
what kinds of plants would cause a man to act in such away?
Dude, KT has one hell of a nice garden.
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tradewind Sat, May 29, 2010 4:42:48pm |
re: #199 darthstar
Maybe the whale thought ' Something is not right with that blowhole'...../
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 4:42:55pm |
re: #248 brookly red
what kinds of plants would cause a man to act in such away?
Opium Poppies could cause that.
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Racer X Sat, May 29, 2010 4:44:49pm |
re: #248 brookly red
what kinds of plants would cause a man to act in such away?
Heh. I've had plants stolen from me before. I could not call the police.
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Bagua Sat, May 29, 2010 4:46:04pm |
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Varek Raith Sat, May 29, 2010 4:46:17pm |
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cliffster Sat, May 29, 2010 4:46:18pm |
re: #244 reine.de.tout
If you had gotten lots and lots of presents you would have forgotten them by now.
This, your family's tradition, you remember. And very fondly, sounds like.
You got that right. My kids have all kinds of shit I never had, technology advances notwithstanding. I know there's a certain appreciation of things that they'll never have though. They are showered with love though, so the warm fuzzies should remain intact.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 4:46:36pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 4:46:55pm |
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cliffster Sat, May 29, 2010 4:47:15pm |
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Varek Raith Sat, May 29, 2010 4:48:05pm |
Every time I post a comment, the thread reloads.
Let me try IE...
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Killgore Trout Sat, May 29, 2010 4:49:21pm |
re: #248 brookly red
what kinds of plants would cause a man to act in such away?
He dug up a big armful of assorted succulents that I planted for erosion control. Nothing fancy. I was just out there looking and it looks like he dug up a few bulbs of garlic too.
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swamprat Sat, May 29, 2010 4:49:33pm |
re: #264 Varek Raith
I have tested on old threads, sometimes.
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Bagua Sat, May 29, 2010 4:49:42pm |
Canada Grills BP on Arctic plans
Knock on effects hit BP.
In 2008, BP paid C$1.2 billion ($1.8 billion) for rights to explore three parcels in Canada's Beaufort Sea, north of the Arctic Circle.
It has yet to announce plans to drill in the region but shortly before the US disaster, BP and other oil companies urged Canadian regulators to drop a requirement stipulating that companies operating in the Arctic had to drill relief wells in the same season as the primary well.
Cullen argued the companies had made this request because drilling a relief well within the required time limit would be too expensive, given the difficult Arctic conditions.
"It's not a question of cost," said Drinkwater.
"Your submission does say it's a question of cost. ... You cite money because you're concerned about money," retorted Cullen, reading from a BP document filed with the NEB, then listing recent disasters BP had been involved in.
Drinkwater - who said BP was not rejecting the option of a relief well - declined to answer reporters' questions following the hearing.
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Killgore Trout Sat, May 29, 2010 4:50:43pm |
re: #249 reine.de.tout
I don't buy anything rage of exotic. Rarely do I spend more than $15 on a plant.
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Bagua Sat, May 29, 2010 4:51:06pm |
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Varek Raith Sat, May 29, 2010 4:51:24pm |
re: #269 Varek Raith
IE8 test.
Fail... :/
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Good grief, IE sucks. First time I fired it up in years...
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brookly red Sat, May 29, 2010 4:51:25pm |
re: #266 Killgore Trout
He dug up a big armful of assorted succulents that I planted for erosion control. Nothing fancy. I was just out there looking and it looks like he dug up a few bulbs of garlic too.
perhaps a couple of pit bulls may look good in your yard?
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Racer X Sat, May 29, 2010 4:51:49pm |
re: #241 tradewind
Full-screen this and prepare to be amazed... ( specially love the claymation lizard @ 1:42)...
[Link: felldowntherabbithole.tumblr.com...]
One of the top 5 trippiest videos ever. Awesome animation!
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prairiefire Sat, May 29, 2010 4:52:16pm |
re: #260 cliffster
You got that right. My kids have all kinds of shit I never had, technology advances notwithstanding. I know there's a certain appreciation of things that they'll never have though. They are showered with love though, so the warm fuzzies should remain intact.
I worked with an African American truck driver at a Food Service distributor in South Carolina. He grew up with Nothing. He would list off to me all the things his two kids would be getting for Christmas, many, many things. I would say "Now, Darryl..."
He said he couldn't help himself. He never thought he would have so much.
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Killgore Trout Sat, May 29, 2010 4:52:34pm |
re: #273 brookly red
perhaps a couple of pit bulls may look good in your yard?
Maybe a spotlight and some barbed wire.
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researchok Sat, May 29, 2010 4:52:35pm |
Hey all...Something is really bothering me.
How come the only ones telling us the navy can't deal with the oil spill are the politicians (on BOTH sides)?
Why hasn't the Pentagon weighed in? Why hasn't anyone directly asked the navy?
I'm really bothered by this.
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 4:53:32pm |
re: #224 Killgore Trout
I just had a very awkward encounter. I just caught a neighbor digging up plants in my garden. I couldn't believe what I was seeing, I shouted at him to stop but he just picked up the plants and started walking away. I guess he knew he was busted and was hoping I'd just let him walk away with my plants. I followed him down to his house and made him put them back. I never met the guy before, what an asshole.
arm yourself...seriously bro
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Killgore Trout Sat, May 29, 2010 4:54:01pm |
re: #277 researchok
The navy doesn't have the equipment or the expertise. They are not trained for oil operations.
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swamprat Sat, May 29, 2010 4:54:04pm |
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brookly red Sat, May 29, 2010 4:54:14pm |
re: #276 Killgore Trout
Maybe a spotlight and some barbed wire.
I don't know... garlic bandits can be quite bold.
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Killgore Trout Sat, May 29, 2010 4:54:49pm |
re: #278 albusteve
I've been thinking about that anyways. I don't like guns so I'm not really very motivated to get one..
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researchok Sat, May 29, 2010 4:55:25pm |
re: #279 Killgore Trout
The navy doesn't have the equipment or the expertise. They are not trained for oil operations.
That's what's been said by the politicians.
I want to know why the Navy hasn't weighed in for themselves. Seesm to me they are strangely quiet.
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 4:55:34pm |
re: #277 researchok
Hey all...Something is really bothering me.
How come the only ones telling us the navy can't deal with the oil spill are the politicians (on BOTH sides)?
Why hasn't the Pentagon weighed in? Why hasn't anyone directly asked the navy?
I'm really bothered by this.
so am I ...I suspect massive fraud all across political/corporate lines...why shouldn't I?
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cliffster Sat, May 29, 2010 4:55:39pm |
re: #275 prairiefire
I worked with an African American truck driver at a Food Service distributor in South Carolina. He grew up with Nothing. He would list off to me all the things his two kids would be getting for Christmas, many, many things. I would say "Now, Darryl..."
He said he couldn't help himself. He never thought he would have so much.
It's hard to do. Fortunately, I've seen a lot of spoiled kids too. My kids will have a very different perception of the world, which is good. But if I can help it, they'll still have a good head on their shoulders.
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tradewind Sat, May 29, 2010 4:55:53pm |
re: #274 Racer X
I'm trying to imagine what it would take to come up with that. It's just wild.
/the brown acid? /
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 4:56:52pm |
re: #283 researchok
That's what's been said by the politicians.
I want to know why the Navy hasn't weighed in for themselves. Seesm to me they are strangely quiet.
No one has drilling expertise, except those who actually do it.
Seriously.
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tradewind Sat, May 29, 2010 4:56:53pm |
re: #277 researchok
How come the feds won't let Jindal go ahead and set up the boom he wants to put in place now? They say he has to wait... on what??
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Killgore Trout Sat, May 29, 2010 4:57:14pm |
re: #283 researchok
That's what's been said by the politicians.
I want to know why the Navy hasn't weighed in for themselves. Seesm to me they are strangely quiet.
Why would they have something to say about a topic that they know nothing about? What would you expect them to say?
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darthstar Sat, May 29, 2010 4:57:43pm |
re: #227 Bagua
So if 80 barrels a minute wasn't enough downward pressure, that would mean the gusher is capable of greater upward pressure than that. And at 80 bpm, 30k barrels of mud would only last 6 hours or so.
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researchok Sat, May 29, 2010 4:57:54pm |
re: #284 albusteve
so am I ...I suspect massive fraud all across political/corporate lines...why shouldn't I?
I agree.
Something else. Early on, CNN had a Canadian oil rig guy on and he said he was surprised thay water was being pumped onto the oil rig. He noted no way water would guarantee no positive result. He said foam was the only way to go and that was SOP in cases such as these.
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 4:57:56pm |
re: #282 Killgore Trout
I've been thinking about that anyways. I don't like guns so I'm not really very motivated to get one..
crossbow, wrist rocket, loaded baseball bat...something, but I understand how you feel...all my life I've had guns but I never gave a second thought to those you don't like them...it's cool, guns are not for everyone, just like yogurt
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 4:58:00pm |
re: #285 cliffster
It's hard to do. Fortunately, I've seen a lot of spoiled kids too. My kids will have a very different perception of the world, which is good. But if I can help it, they'll still have a good head on their shoulders.
Yes, indeed, it's possible, of course.
My daughter has been spoiled.
She's still a really good kid.
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Racer X Sat, May 29, 2010 4:58:21pm |
re: #286 tradewind
I'm trying to imagine what it would take to come up with that. It's just wild.
/the brown acid? /
I could swear I saw that exact same video about 20 years ago.
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swamprat Sat, May 29, 2010 4:58:31pm |
re: #282 Killgore Trout
I've been thinking about that anyways. I don't like guns so I'm not really very motivated to get one..
A sprinkler system would be cheaper. And you could put a motion detector on it....
Mace will keep you out of trouble. My sister used hairspray once. Mighty effective.
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Varek Raith Sat, May 29, 2010 4:58:33pm |
Now the login button on the main page doesn't work on my end. :/
Sigh.
The Universe hates me.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 4:59:05pm |
re: #289 Killgore Trout
Why would they have something to say about a topic that they know nothing about? What would you expect them to say?
Exactly. The US Navy knows a great deal about war or rescue at sea, but drilling is not their job.
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researchok Sat, May 29, 2010 4:59:13pm |
re: #289 Killgore Trout
Why would they have something to say about a topic that they know nothing about? What would you expect them to say?
KT, you may be right, of course. Still, don't you find it a bit curious that no one (media) appears to have even asked the question?
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 4:59:18pm |
re: #290 darthstar
So if 80 barrels a minute wasn't enough downward pressure, that would mean the gusher is capable of greater upward pressure than that. And at 80 bpm, 30k barrels of mud would only last 6 hours or so.
It would be hard to get enough downward pressure, I would think, while it was leaking out at the same time.
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Varek Raith Sat, May 29, 2010 4:59:33pm |
re: #292 albusteve
crossbow, wrist rocket, loaded baseball bat...something, but I understand how you feel...all my life I've had guns but I never gave a second thought to those you don't like them...it's cool, guns are not for everyone, just like yogurt
I like swords.
Swords.
Yeah.
:)
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tradewind Sat, May 29, 2010 4:59:38pm |
re: #294 Racer X
It's entirely possible. I just swiped it up from a random tweet .
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 5:00:37pm |
re: #297 Dark_Falcon
Exactly. The US Navy knows a great deal about war or rescue at sea, but drilling is not their job.
they will come in handy when we corner BP....guns akimbo!, board her!
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prairiefire Sat, May 29, 2010 5:01:01pm |
re: #285 cliffster
It's hard to do. Fortunately, I've seen a lot of spoiled kids too. My kids will have a very different perception of the world, which is good. But if I can help it, they'll still have a good head on their shoulders.
I talk to my kids a lot each month about out monthly budget cycle. There's only so much each month for clothes, shoes, movies, Blockbuster, etc. I think they get it most of the time.
The thing is they keep growing!
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, May 29, 2010 5:01:02pm |
re: #277 researchok
Hey all...Something is really bothering me.
How come the only ones telling us the navy can't deal with the oil spill are the politicians (on BOTH sides)?
Why hasn't the Pentagon weighed in? Why hasn't anyone directly asked the navy?
I'm really bothered by this.
I have bad news for you.. Back in the 90's we spent a Billion Dollars to outfit the SSN683 to do just about anything at great depths.. I spent about 3 years working on her...She is decommed.. And I'm guessing it's still against the law to talk about her Capabilities under sea...I'm not going to jail..Wikki her and come to your own conclusion...
The SSN683 was the best America came up with...And we shit canned her during the Clinton years...Just the worst decision ever
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 5:01:08pm |
re: #300 Varek Raith
I like swords.
Swords.
Yeah.
:)
How about automated blaster cannons for your garden, Varek.
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brookly red Sat, May 29, 2010 5:01:27pm |
re: #288 tradewind
How come the feds won't let Jindal go ahead and set up the boom he wants to put in place now? They say he has to wait... on what??
on a way they can claim credit for it...
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researchok Sat, May 29, 2010 5:01:33pm |
re: #297 Dark_Falcon
Exactly. The US Navy knows a great deal about war or rescue at sea, but drilling is not their job.
The Navy does know about oil cleanup.
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Aceofwhat? Sat, May 29, 2010 5:01:47pm |
re: #282 Killgore Trout
I've been thinking about that anyways. I don't like guns so I'm not really very motivated to get one..
hmmm...samurai sword, perhaps?
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 5:02:00pm |
re: #288 tradewind
How come the feds won't let Jindal go ahead and set up the boom he wants to put in place now? They say he has to wait... on what??
Today's press release from Jindal on that topic.
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 5:02:05pm |
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tradewind Sat, May 29, 2010 5:02:19pm |
re: #299 reine.de.tout
Why do the wells have to be so deeply offshore? It seems like if it had been in shallower water, it would have been much easier to fix.
And what good is it going to do for us to stop drilling, when every other country is out there doing the same thing, only closer in?
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Racer X Sat, May 29, 2010 5:02:23pm |
re: #301 tradewind
It's entirely possible. I just swiped it up from a random tweet .
I meant, I saw it in my head. While I was, uh, experimenting.
/Hey, I had a white lab coat.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 5:02:37pm |
re: #304 HoosierHoops
I have bad news for you.. Back in the 90's we spent a Billion Dollars to outfit the SSN683 to do just about anything at great depths.. I spent about 3 years working on her...She is decommed.. And I'm guessing it's still against the law to talk about her Capabilities under sea...I'm not going to jail..Wikki her and come to your own conclusion...
The SSN683 was the best America came up with...And we shit canned her during the Clinton years...Just the worst decision ever
According to Wiki, they refitted the Jimmy Carter to replace her. Of course that could be a FAIL, like most things associated with Rabbit Bait.
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Aceofwhat? Sat, May 29, 2010 5:03:10pm |
re: #283 researchok
That's what's been said by the politicians.
I want to know why the Navy hasn't weighed in for themselves. Seesm to me they are strangely quiet.
It's not so strange to think that deep-sea well drilling is one of the few marine activities the Navy isn't good at...
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researchok Sat, May 29, 2010 5:03:22pm |
re: #304 HoosierHoops
I have bad news for you.. Back in the 90's we spent a Billion Dollars to outfit the SSN683 to do just about anything at great depths.. I spent about 3 years working on her...She is decommed.. And I'm guessing it's still against the law to talk about her Capabilities under sea...I'm not going to jail..Wikki her and come to your own conclusion...
The SSN683 was the best America came up with...And we shit canned her during the Clinton years...Just the worst decision ever
Now that makes some sense.
I knew they had some kind of capability- saw some of that in Med.
They must have cleanup capabilit though. I wonder why that hasn't been publicized.
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tradewind Sat, May 29, 2010 5:03:30pm |
re: #306 brookly red
This part of it is very Katrina-esque...
people and solutions ready to go and red tape standing in the way.
Not good at all.
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researchok Sat, May 29, 2010 5:03:40pm |
re: #313 Dark_Falcon
According to Wiki, they refitted the Jimmy Carter to replace her. Of course that could be a FAIL, like most things associated with Rabbit Bait.
LOLOL
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 5:04:11pm |
re: #311 tradewind
Why do the wells have to be so deeply offshore? It seems like if it had been in shallower water, it would have been much easier to fix.
And what good is it going to do for us to stop drilling, when every other country is out there doing the same thing, only closer in?
crooning...
feelings
whoa whoa feelings
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Varek Raith Sat, May 29, 2010 5:04:20pm |
re: #305 Dark_Falcon
How about automated blaster cannons for your garden, Varek.
That works, too.
:)
BBL, again.
D'oh.
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tradewind Sat, May 29, 2010 5:04:25pm |
re: #317 researchok
Let's just hope we don't have any Carter era helicopters still in service./
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researchok Sat, May 29, 2010 5:04:36pm |
re: #314 Aceofwhat?
It's not so strange to think that deep-sea well drilling is one of the few marine activities the Navy isn't good at...
Not so much the drilling, more of the sub surface capability/capacity.
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Aceofwhat? Sat, May 29, 2010 5:05:03pm |
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researchok Sat, May 29, 2010 5:05:26pm |
re: #320 tradewind
Let's just hope we don't have any Carter era helicopters still in service./
Ouch.
I don't think they've been picked up yet. Still in 'storage', to put a happy face on it.
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 5:05:50pm |
re: #321 researchok
Not so much the drilling, more of the sub surface capability/capacity.
I say, shoot a few torps into the goo and see what happens
OOH RAH!
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brookly red Sat, May 29, 2010 5:06:21pm |
re: #316 tradewind
This part of it is very Katrina-esque...
people and solutions ready to go and red tape standing in the way.
Not good at all.
this is going to be a game changer me thinks...
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 5:06:40pm |
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 5:07:09pm |
re: #311 tradewind
Why do the wells have to be so deeply offshore? It seems like if it had been in shallower water, it would have been much easier to fix.
And what good is it going to do for us to stop drilling, when every other country is out there doing the same thing, only closer in?
The formations closer in have already been drilled.
They've gone into deep water because:
1. They have the technology to do it, and
2. There's oil there.
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tradewind Sat, May 29, 2010 5:07:15pm |
re: #309 reine.de.tout
The Coast Guard told us yesterday – after weeks of reviewing our plan that they approved a single segment of just two miles to see if the sand boom works. This is another example of too little too late.
This makes me nauseous. Next thing you know they'll tell LA that they're waiting on a report from the Army Corps of Engineers.....
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Aceofwhat? Sat, May 29, 2010 5:07:24pm |
re: #321 researchok
Not so much the drilling, more of the sub surface capability/capacity.
subsurface capability - drilling expertise = not much help
(just my .02)
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brookly red Sat, May 29, 2010 5:07:39pm |
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Killgore Trout Sat, May 29, 2010 5:07:53pm |
re: #298 researchok
Still, don't you find it a bit curious that no one (media) appears to have even asked the question?
Not at all. Nobody's asked Ozzy Ozzborne if he can fix the oil leak, either. I don't know why they would think he'd have anything interesting to say about it.
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 5:07:55pm |
re: #325 brookly red
this is going to be a game changer me thinks...
BOs nightmare Gulfhound On My Tail?
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Aceofwhat? Sat, May 29, 2010 5:08:07pm |
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swamprat Sat, May 29, 2010 5:08:51pm |
re: #311 tradewind
Why do the wells have to be so deeply offshore? It seems like if it had been in shallower water, it would have been much easier to fix.
And what good is it going to do for us to stop drilling, when every other country is out there doing the same thing, only closer in?
We aren't drilling near our own shores because of
wait for it...
environmental concerns.
Krauthammer did a partisan piece on this.
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tradewind Sat, May 29, 2010 5:08:52pm |
re: #327 reine.de.tout
Everything closer in has been drilled out?
Wow. That didn't take long. When I lived in NoLa, one of my roommates married a guy who worked on a platform and it was just 12 miles out.
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cliffster Sat, May 29, 2010 5:08:54pm |
re: #309 reine.de.tout
Today's press release from Jindal on that topic.
I wish they'd just do it. Think the feds are really going to stop them?
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, May 29, 2010 5:09:21pm |
re: #313 Dark_Falcon
According to Wiki, they refitted the Jimmy Carter to replace her. Of course that could be a FAIL, like most things associated with Rabbit Bait.
Oh well fuck..I'm not going to jail.. I left the DOD with an Ocean Engineering Clearance which took me 5 years to get after Top Clearance..
Wikki doesn't have a freaking clue about the mission of the SSN683 and why America spent a Billion Dollars to outfit her in DD#3 at MINSY..
Not one clue....
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researchok Sat, May 29, 2010 5:09:25pm |
re: #331 Killgore Trout
Not at all. Nobody's asked Ozzy Ozzborne if he can fix the oil leak, either. I don't know why they would think he'd have anything interesting to say about it.
Maybe you're right.
Like I said, for some reason it just bothers me.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 5:09:33pm |
re: #320 tradewind
Let's just hope we don't have any Carter era helicopters still in service./
We actually do, but they've been upgraded multiple times and are now far more advanced than they were in 1979.
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 5:10:44pm |
re: #331 Killgore Trout
Not at all. Nobody's asked Ozzy Ozzborne if he can fix the oil leak, either. I don't know why they would think he'd have anything interesting to say about it.
BO is burning up a cred scenario...no question, it's not a matter of what he can do, it's a matter of what he says he's gonna try to do then go for it...BO allows events to guide him...to believe otherwise is to defy history and his record
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 5:10:50pm |
re: #337 HoosierHoops
Oh well fuck..I'm not going to jail.. I left the DOD with an Ocean Engineering Clearance which took me 5 years to get after Top Clearance..
Wikki doesn't have a freaking clue about the mission of the SSN683 and why America spent a Billion Dollars to outfit her in DD#3 at MINSY..
Not one clue...
MINSY is Mare Island, but what is DD#3?
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Gus Sat, May 29, 2010 5:11:27pm |
re: #304 HoosierHoops
I have bad news for you.. Back in the 90's we spent a Billion Dollars to outfit the SSN683 to do just about anything at great depths.. I spent about 3 years working on her...She is decommed.. And I'm guessing it's still against the law to talk about her Capabilities under sea...I'm not going to jail..Wikki her and come to your own conclusion...
The SSN683 was the best America came up with...And we shit canned her during the Clinton years...Just the worst decision ever
You sure you have the right sub?
The SSN-683 could do just about anything that involved four "533 mm torpedo tubes for Mk-48 torpedoes, Harpoon, Tomahawk, and SUBROC missiles, ability to lay mines." It was also about 400 feet long and had a maximum depth rating of only 1300 feet.
The SSN-683 or "Parche" would be useless in this scenario.
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 5:11:32pm |
re: #336 cliffster
I wish they'd just do it. Think the feds are really going to stop them?
Here's another press release from the 27th, very informative.
And here is a synopsis of current operations.
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Aceofwhat? Sat, May 29, 2010 5:11:37pm |
re: #340 albusteve
BO is burning up a cred scenario...no question, it's not a matter of what he can do, it's a matter of what he says he's gonna try to do then go for it...BO allows events to guide him...to believe otherwise is to defy history and his record
Reine...you want to do the "it's not the President" honors this time or shall i?
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researchok Sat, May 29, 2010 5:11:43pm |
re: #337 HoosierHoops
Oh well fuck..I'm not going to jail.. I left the DOD with an Ocean Engineering Clearance which took me 5 years to get after Top Clearance..
Wikki doesn't have a freaking clue about the mission of the SSN683 and why America spent a Billion Dollars to outfit her in DD#3 at MINSY..
Not one clue...
From my experience, America's greatest freedom is her freedom from fear.
Lots of people have no idea as what goes on out there.
You know Souda Bay?
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brookly red Sat, May 29, 2010 5:12:11pm |
re: #332 albusteve
BOs nightmare Gulfhound On My Tail?
well yes for sure, but on top of that there will be a great awakening to fact that the gubermint can not shelter us from everything. For many it's is going to be like that moment in childhood when you realize that your parents are not gods.
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, May 29, 2010 5:12:16pm |
re: #341 Dark_Falcon
MINSY is Mare Island, but what is DD#3?
Dry Dock # 3 at Mare Island...I worked at MINSY for 20 years
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Bagua Sat, May 29, 2010 5:13:27pm |
re: #290 darthstar
So if 80 barrels a minute wasn't enough downward pressure, that would mean the gusher is capable of greater upward pressure than that. And at 80 bpm, 30k barrels of mud would only last 6 hours or so.
They can't overcome the pressure from the formation. It's pressure, but also the weight of the mud column, they need a sufficient column and can't get the mud deep enough.
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cliffster Sat, May 29, 2010 5:13:49pm |
re: #346 brookly red
well yes for sure, but on top of that there will be a great awakening to fact that the gubermint can not shelter us from everything. For many it's is going to be like that moment in childhood when you realize that your parents are not gods.
Well, politicizing the situation to say he should have done something means that he could have done something. So the current climate won't allow that very healthy realization to occur.
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 5:14:00pm |
re: #344 Aceofwhat?
Reine...you want to do the "it's not the President" honors this time or shall i?
what's not the President?....you missed the groove, just like he did...people expect leadership, whether it's plausible, genuine or whatever....go there, blab all day...you the man!....BO is a dope
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Racer X Sat, May 29, 2010 5:14:30pm |
re: #337 HoosierHoops
SSN 683
The "research and development" function of the extended hull includes intelligence gathering and underwater salvage. Reportedly, the Parche can support covert intelligence-gathering operations similar to IVY BELLS and HOLYSTONE, and a remote grapple extended through a hatch in the submarine's keel can salvage relatively small items from the ocean floor (such as missiles, nuclear warheads, satellites, etc.)
Like all the Sturgeon-class submarines, Parche is of ice-strengthened construction, with reinforced sail incorporating diving planes capable of pivoting 90 degrees (vertical) to avoid damage when the boat crashes through ice to surface. Besides her bow-mounted sonar (in that location to isolate it the maximum distance from her screw), she mounts short-range navigational sonars (both upward and forward facing) plus armored spotlights and closed-circuit television cameras for under-ice operations.
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, May 29, 2010 5:14:35pm |
re: #342 Gus 802
You sure you have the right sub?
The SSN-683 could do just about anything that involved four "533 mm torpedo tubes for Mk-48 torpedoes, Harpoon, Tomahawk, and SUBROC missiles, ability to lay mines." It was also about 400 feet long and had a maximum depth rating of only 1300 feet.
The SSN-683 or "Parche" would be useless in this scenario.
Yea..I know what Sub I speak of my friend.. We cut her in Half and added a 100 feet of top secret stuff in her..Cost a Billion dollars...3 years of my life..
I think I have the right Sub..
*wink*
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 5:14:40pm |
re: #344 Aceofwhat?
Reine...you want to do the "it's not the President" honors this time or shall i?
*sigh*
You do it.
Here's what the President can do - urge the Coast Guard to issue approval for those plans as quickly as possible.
Now, there are good reasons why the Coast Guard and the Corps of Engineers move slowly on these things, they have to review to make sure nothing will go wrong. And I want them to do whatever review they think is necessary.
But this isn't a time when the folks reviewing those plans need to be showing up at 8 and leaving for home at 4 every day.
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tradewind Sat, May 29, 2010 5:15:11pm |
re: #346 brookly red
Did you see the link on Drudge to Bill Maher's opinion re Obama and how he should go gangsta on BP? Really blatant offensive racial stereotyping , condemnation from left in 5....4.....3...
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 5:15:11pm |
re: #347 HoosierHoops
Dry Dock # 3 at Mare Island...I worked at MINSY for 20 years
Understood. I actually found about that Mare Island was a shipyard during my reading about World War II. Many of the destroyers the US built in the 1930's were built at Mare Island.
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 5:15:18pm |
re: #346 brookly red
well yes for sure, but on top of that there will be a great awakening to fact that the gubermint can not shelter us from everything. For many it's is going to be like that moment in childhood when you realize that your parents are not gods.
I've never said otherwise...but I'm not the electorate, I side with Caraville on this one
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Racer X Sat, May 29, 2010 5:15:42pm |
re: #342 Gus 802
You sure you have the right sub?
The SSN-683 could do just about anything that involved four "533 mm torpedo tubes for Mk-48 torpedoes, Harpoon, Tomahawk, and SUBROC missiles, ability to lay mines." It was also about 400 feet long and had a maximum depth rating of only 1300 feet.
The SSN-683 or "Parche" would be useless in this scenario.
Hoops knows what he is talking about.
See #351
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Gus Sat, May 29, 2010 5:16:13pm |
re: #352 HoosierHoops
Yea..I know what Sub I speak of my friend.. We cut her in Half and added a 100 feet of top secret stuff in her..Cost a Billion dollars...3 years of my life..
I think I have the right Sub..
*wink*
Well, it wouldn't have done any good.
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brookly red Sat, May 29, 2010 5:16:49pm |
re: #349 cliffster
Well, politicizing the situation to say he should have done something means that he could have done something. So the current climate won't allow that very healthy realization to occur.
why not? just upstairs the Jindal/boom question was asked... and it is not about politics it about bureaucracy.
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Gus Sat, May 29, 2010 5:17:51pm |
re: #357 Racer X
Hoops knows what he is talking about.
See #351
The BOP is 5000 feet below the surface.
The SSN-683 was rated at 1300 feet.
It had grappling arms for picking up large objects.
Nothing for doing delicate operations.
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, May 29, 2010 5:18:24pm |
re: #355 Dark_Falcon
Understood. I actually found about that Mare Island was a shipyard during my reading about World War II. Many of the destroyers the US built in the 1930's were built at Mare Island.
the oldest Navy Shipyard on the West Coast..1854 if I recall.. They sent me to College for 3 years to get a Masters degree...I have so many great stories about Mare Island and the great people I met and worked with there
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brookly red Sat, May 29, 2010 5:18:37pm |
re: #354 tradewind
Did you see the link on Drudge to Bill Maher's opinion re Obama and how he should go gangsta on BP? Really blatant offensive racial stereotyping , condemnation from left in 5...4...3...
/Drudge & Maher in the same sentence... but these are not the end of days.
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 5:18:59pm |
re: #360 brookly red
why not? just upstairs the Jindal/boom question was asked... and it is not about politics it about bureaucracy.
Yes, it's about the bureaucracy, which exists for a reason, and which, believe it or not, protects us all even though we're unaware of it most of the time.
This, however, is sort of an emergency, and I just hope the bureaucrats are giving this the time (and overtime) it deserves to get their approvals done as quickly as they can.
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tradewind Sat, May 29, 2010 5:19:31pm |
Oh, brother, hope this isn't a domino thingy....
[Link: www.reuters.com...]
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Aceofwhat? Sat, May 29, 2010 5:19:32pm |
re: #350 albusteve
what's not the President?...you missed the groove, just like he did...people expect leadership, whether it's plausible, genuine or whatever...go there, blab all day...you the man!...BO is a dope
i want him and his huge security retinue to get the F out of the way.
it's called a cell phone...he can still check in...
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Jack Burton Sat, May 29, 2010 5:19:36pm |
re: #6 reine.de.tout
Does anyone know why Tom Petty almost always wears sunglasses?
Been wondering about that for years.
Because when you're cool, the sun shines on you 24 hours a day.
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tradewind Sat, May 29, 2010 5:19:59pm |
re: #363 brookly red
I would post a link to it, but my masochism only extends so far.../
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 5:20:31pm |
re: #366 Aceofwhat?
i want him and his huge security retinue to get the F out of the way.
it's called a cell phone...he can still check in...
I'm talking politics, not anything practical
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 5:20:34pm |
re: #366 Aceofwhat?
i want him and his huge security retinue to get the F out of the way.
it's called a cell phone...he can still check in...
Exactly.
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tradewind Sat, May 29, 2010 5:20:37pm |
re: #6 reine.de.tout
After a while, the Visine quits working../
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 5:21:16pm |
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, May 29, 2010 5:21:26pm |
re: #361 Gus 802
The BOP is 5000 feet below the surface.
The SSN-683 was rated at 1300 feet.
It had grappling arms for picking up large objects.
Nothing for doing delicate operations.
Launching mini deep water subs...Gus?
You don't know..I'm not saying
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tradewind Sat, May 29, 2010 5:21:47pm |
re: #366 Aceofwhat?
He's safety-wired to his Blackberry 24-7, according to the press. Shouldn't be a problem.
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 5:22:08pm |
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Aceofwhat? Sat, May 29, 2010 5:22:27pm |
re: #359 albusteve
BO is in BPs pocket...chew on that
i thought you had a bigger shit stirrer than that? come on...make me proud;)
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brookly red Sat, May 29, 2010 5:22:34pm |
re: #364 reine.de.tout
Yes, it's about the bureaucracy, which exists for a reason, and which, believe it or not, protects us all even though we're unaware of it most of the time.
This, however, is sort of an emergency, and I just hope the bureaucrats are giving this the time (and overtime) it deserves to get their approvals done as quickly as they can.
I think that it is the roll of the state (the roll of the governor and local leaders) to be the first responders in any situation short of war. No?
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 5:23:02pm |
re: #376 Aceofwhat?
i thought you had a bigger shit stirrer than that? come on...make me proud;)
I thought it was a 5 star gig
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tradewind Sat, May 29, 2010 5:23:09pm |
re: #364 reine.de.tout
Every time I see ' Army Corps of Engineers / survey/report/
the next thing that pops into my mind is 'levees '.
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 5:23:15pm |
re: #377 brookly red
I think that it is the roll of the state (the roll of the governor and local leaders) to be the first responders in any situation short of war. No?
They need to wait for the Coast Guard and/or Corps of Engineers to approve the plans.
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Gus Sat, May 29, 2010 5:23:27pm |
re: #373 HoosierHoops
Launching mini deep water subs...Gus?
You don't know..I'm not saying
What difference does it make if we already have "deep water subs" in the form of ROVs that can do the same thing.
If you're going to claim something that I don't know that "top secret" I can't prove a negative.
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prairiefire Sat, May 29, 2010 5:23:32pm |
re: #346 brookly red
well yes for sure, but on top of that there will be a great awakening to fact that the gubermint can not shelter us from everything. For many it's is going to be like that moment in childhood when you realize that your parents are not gods.
So because the regulators who were tasked to regulate the situation in LA were totally corrupted, then all government is corrupt?
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Aceofwhat? Sat, May 29, 2010 5:24:54pm |
re: #382 prairiefire
So because the regulators who were tasked to regulate the situation in LA were totally corrupted, then all government is corrupt?
OT, love the new avatar...
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Dark_Falcon Sat, May 29, 2010 5:25:15pm |
re: #373 HoosierHoops
Launching mini deep water subs...Gus?
You don't know..I'm not saying
I think the Russians built mini subs that could get down that far but dock with a larger sub, but I don't what the US has in this regard. Anything you can say than isn't classified? If not, just say no and I won't pursue the matter.
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 5:25:15pm |
re: #375 albusteve
the low road leads to Gulftrina...bet me
argh.
I hated it when people blamed Bush.
I hate it now when I see it here, people still blaming Bush.
He did what he could do.
And it's the same thing here. Obama and his administration are doing everything they can do. There's just a limit. Others have to be relied in the case of Katrina, and in this case as well.
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researchok Sat, May 29, 2010 5:25:56pm |
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albusteve Sat, May 29, 2010 5:26:03pm |
re: #379 tradewind
Every time I see ' Army Corps of Engineers / survey/report/
the next thing that pops into my mind is 'levees '.
it should, it's a huge part of what they do....disaster has struck more than once...
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 5:26:19pm |
re: #382 prairiefire
So because the regulators who were tasked to regulate the situation in LA were totally corrupted, then all government is corrupt?
I'm not convinced the regulators were corrupt.
This situation is squarely on the shoulders of BP.
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brookly red Sat, May 29, 2010 5:26:30pm |
re: #380 reine.de.tout
They need to wait for the Coast Guard and/or Corps of Engineers to approve the plans.
well it would have been nice if they had done so before the oil reached land... just saying.
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, May 29, 2010 5:26:36pm |
re: #381 Gus 802
What difference does it make if we already have "deep water subs" in the form of ROVs that can do the same thing.
If you're going to claim something that I don't know that "top secret" I can't prove a negative.
True..I'm not snapping at you.. Just getting ready to watch Ball and chatting about the SSN683.. Great Boat
Be well Gus
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Gus Sat, May 29, 2010 5:27:18pm |
re: #390 HoosierHoops
True..I'm not snapping at you.. Just getting ready to watch Ball and chatting about the SSN683.. Great Boat
Be well Gus
Roger dodger Hoops.
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Aceofwhat? Sat, May 29, 2010 5:28:17pm |
re: #390 HoosierHoops
True..I'm not snapping at you.. Just getting ready to watch Ball and chatting about the SSN683.. Great Boat
Be well Gus
Seriously...where's my girl Stanley with the balla thread? It's gin and hoops time!
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 5:30:13pm |
re: #389 brookly red
well it would have been nice if they had done so before the oil reached land... just saying.
Yes, it would have been.
In the first few days though -
BP was underestimating (by a lot) how much oil was spewing out of there.
And there's no good way to measure it, once it reaches the surface and becomes ribbons of oil spreading out all over the place. It's not like there's a solid area covered with oil - it breaks up into ribbons and spreads out.
I think people made plans based on the information at hand, and did what they had to do given the information they had.
Now - after this is all over - perhaps this stuff can all be done and put into an emergency response plan for the future, with the approvals all there and in order ahead of time. But the failure to have that plan in place is a state fault, not the Obama administration's fault.
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, May 29, 2010 5:30:30pm |
re: #392 Aceofwhat?
Seriously...where's my girl Stanley with the balla thread? It's gin and hoops time!
Wasn't it Sea that had a Laker thread the other night? I missed it..Damn it!
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Killgore Trout Sat, May 29, 2010 5:31:24pm |
re: #340 albusteve
BO is burning up a cred scenario...no question, it's not a matter of what he can do, it's a matter of what he says he's gonna try to do then go for it...BO allows events to guide him...to believe otherwise is to defy history and his record
Not really. Although I do the the Katrina meme is accurate. The people who already hate Obama will hate him more. So far it's just another outrageous outrage. Obama still has time to make a mess of it but so far I don't think it's going to cost him politically. Why not blame the people who actually caused the spill? That's what most people are going to do.
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reloadingisnotahobby Sat, May 29, 2010 5:32:18pm |
Life sucks../
Two Bone in Rib Eyes 1 1/4 thick with Corn on
the Cob,BBQ'd and fresh green beans...
A beautiful evening...what could go wrong?
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cliffster Sat, May 29, 2010 5:32:26pm |
re: #385 reine.de.tout
argh.
I hated it when people blamed Bush.
I hate it now when I see it here, people still blaming Bush.
He did what he could do.And it's the same thing here. Obama and his administration are doing everything they can do. There's just a limit. Others have to be relied in the case of Katrina, and in this case as well.
Amen, sister. But Steve's right - it's going to be an issue and it's going to be an issue that carries weight. Politics.. sigh
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Aceofwhat? Sat, May 29, 2010 5:32:53pm |
re: #394 HoosierHoops
Wasn't it Sea that had a Laker thread the other night? I missed it..Damn it!
and a Celtics thread! She does it every time-
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tradewind Sat, May 29, 2010 5:33:07pm |
re: #385 reine.de.tout
Madame Speaker's all over that one./
[Link: www.washingtonexaminer.com...]
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Semper Fi Sat, May 29, 2010 5:33:21pm |
re: #376 Aceofwhat?
i thought you had a bigger shit stirrer than that? come on...make me proud;)
I read your post just after I thought, "How am I gonna' watch this game? I should have taken a nap" Wide awake now. LOL and thanks.
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 5:33:33pm |
re: #394 HoosierHoops
Wasn't it Sea that had a Laker thread the other night? I missed it..Damn it!
Laker thread up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Just for you, I'm sure.
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 5:34:09pm |
re: #399 tradewind
Madame Speaker's all over that one./
[Link: www.washingtonexaminer.com...]
I saw that earlier.
She's an idiot.
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Aceofwhat? Sat, May 29, 2010 5:34:16pm |
re: #400 Semper Fi
I read your post just after I thought, "How am I gonna' watch this game? I should have taken a nap" Wide awake now. LOL and thanks.
heh...obvious Albusteve is obvious/
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Gus Sat, May 29, 2010 5:34:28pm |
re: #395 Killgore Trout
Not really. Although I do the the Katrina meme is accurate. The people who already hate Obama will hate him more. So far it's just another outrageous outrage. Obama still has time to make a mess of it but so far I don't think it's going to cost him politically. Why not blame the people who actually caused the spill? That's what most people are going to do.
Yep. The name is BP.
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brookly red Sat, May 29, 2010 5:34:34pm |
re: #393 reine.de.tout
Yes, it would have been.
In the first few days though -
BP was underestimating (by a lot) how much oil was spewing out of there.
And there's no good way to measure it, once it reaches the surface and becomes ribbons of oil spreading out all over the place. It's not like there's a solid area covered with oil - it breaks up into ribbons and spreads out.I think people made plans based on the information at hand, and did what they had to do given the information they had.
Now - after this is all over - perhaps this stuff can all be done and put into an emergency response plan for the future, with the approvals all there and in order ahead of time. But the failure to have that plan in place is a state fault, not the Obama administration's fault.
Easy now I am not saying it was Obama administration's fault in fact I said upstairs it was not about politics but bureaucracy. The federal government is too big and slow to maneuver effectively in local emergencies, that is just the way it is.
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researchok Sat, May 29, 2010 5:34:44pm |
re: #395 Killgore Trout
Not really. Although I do the the Katrina meme is accurate. The people who already hate Obama will hate him more. So far it's just another outrageous outrage. Obama still has time to make a mess of it but so far I don't think it's going to cost him politically. Why not blame the people who actually caused the spill? That's what most people are going to do.
That begs the question- How much time does Obama have before it really is his baby?
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reloadingisnotahobby Sat, May 29, 2010 5:34:47pm |
re: #401 reine.de.tout
Laker thread up >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>
Just for you, I'm sure.
Hoops isn't into B.B.!!/
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 5:35:19pm |
re: #405 brookly red
Easy now I am not saying it was Obama administration's fault in fact I said upstairs it was not about politics but bureaucracy. The federal government is too big and slow to maneuver effectively in local emergencies, that is just the way it is.
Oh, I know, if I sounded like I was yelling - I'm just - stressed.
Sorry.
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Gus Sat, May 29, 2010 5:35:48pm |
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tradewind Sat, May 29, 2010 5:35:51pm |
re: #402 reine.de.tout
One of the best reasons to hope that the numbers hold up for House Republicans this fall.
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brookly red Sat, May 29, 2010 5:36:54pm |
re: #406 researchok
That begs the question- How much time does Obama have before it really is his baby?
I think it is a done deal.
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 5:37:14pm |
re: #409 Gus 802
I blame Harry S. Trumann!
//
Oh, hell!
Let's just go all the way back, shall we?
I blame George Washington!
/ /
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researchok Sat, May 29, 2010 5:38:22pm |
re: #395 Killgore Trout
Not really. Although I do the the Katrina meme is accurate. The people who already hate Obama will hate him more. So far it's just another outrageous outrage. Obama still has time to make a mess of it but so far I don't think it's going to cost him politically. Why not blame the people who actually caused the spill? That's what most people are going to do.
Also, I think there are two issues here.
As to BP's fault, you are on the money. I don't think anyone faults the Obama administration for the catastrophe. Those who do are idiots, not unlike the idiots who blamed Bush for Katrina.
The second issue is the response. That is where the administration might take a hit.
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Four More Tears Sat, May 29, 2010 5:39:42pm |
re: #412 reine.de.tout
Oh, hell!
Let's just go all the way back, shall we?
I blame George Washington!
/ /
This is obviously the result of poor planning on the part of the colonial French.
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Gus Sat, May 29, 2010 5:40:18pm |
re: #412 reine.de.tout
Oh, hell!
Let's just go all the way back, shall we?
I blame George Washington!
/ /
Yeah. Or John Calvin!
It's kind of dumb to blame presidents. Most of the people on the regulatory end are career government employees. The only thing that changes between presidents are the executive branch leaders. The people out in the field doing inspections and such stay employed until they retire.
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tradewind Sat, May 29, 2010 5:40:31pm |
re: #404 Gus 802
True. And Nature caused Katrina, but who took the blame?/
This is one instance where POTUS' dislike for drama is not an asset.
If you're gonna do a tour of a disaster site, it's probably a good idea to suck it up and stay longer than you did on the golf course the day before. ( Five hours vs three).
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researchok Sat, May 29, 2010 5:44:08pm |
re: #415 Gus 802
Yeah. Or John Calvin!
It's kind of dumb to blame presidents. Most of the people on the regulatory end are career government employees. The only thing that changes between presidents are the executive branch leaders. The people out in the field doing inspections and such stay employed until they retire.
3 pointer.
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Four More Tears Sat, May 29, 2010 5:44:14pm |
re: #416 tradewind
Yeah. He should have right there with Cousteau and Sam Champion diving into the oil!!11!!
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brookly red Sat, May 29, 2010 5:44:37pm |
re: #414 JasonA
This is obviously the result of poor planning on the part of the colonial French.
/If the native Americans has not been so open bordery that would be a moot point.
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 5:44:39pm |
re: #415 Gus 802
Yeah. Or John Calvin!
It's kind of dumb to blame presidents. Most of the people on the regulatory end are career government employees. The only thing that changes between presidents are the executive branch leaders. The people out in the field doing inspections and such stay employed until they retire.
Exactly.
In fact, one of the reasons for the existence of a protected civil service is to ensure continuity of service, so that people with experience aren't fired and replaced with folks who have none.
They do the same thing day after day; their work changes when the laws and policies they are enforcing change.
And since there's been no incident out there for decades, then honestly, who knew there might be a problem with how the agency was functioning? It's not possible to know something when that something hasn't yet happened (if that makes any sense).
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 5:45:34pm |
re: #416 tradewind
True. And Nature caused Katrina, but who took the blame?/
This is one instance where POTUS' dislike for drama is not an asset.
If you're gonna do a tour of a disaster site, it's probably a good idea to suck it up and stay longer than you did on the golf course the day before. ( Five hours vs three).
Oh, quit, please!
Don't you think we should be better than the idiots who blamed Bush? Set an example?
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Gus Sat, May 29, 2010 5:46:17pm |
re: #416 tradewind
True. And Nature caused Katrina, but who took the blame?/
This is one instance where POTUS' dislike for drama is not an asset.
If you're gonna do a tour of a disaster site, it's probably a good idea to suck it up and stay longer than you did on the golf course the day before. ( Five hours vs three).
If we're going to go down the cause route in the eyes of the public there's a big difference between hurricane Katrina (an act of God) and this oil spill (an act of British Petroleum aka BP).
Sure there will be fallout inflicted on Obama because of this but it will all fall upon BP in the long run the same as it did with the Exxon Valdez. Most people remember Exxon and not "the drunk captain."
Don't forget. This is BP. It's a British corporation so the fact that it is a "foreign" oil company won't bode well with the American people. Especially when we start seeing the long term impact with the fishing industry in the region.
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brookly red Sat, May 29, 2010 5:49:05pm |
re: #422 Gus 802
If we're going to go down the cause route in the eyes of the public there's a big difference between hurricane Katrina (an act of God) and this oil spill (an act of British Petroleum aka BP).
Sure there will be fallout inflicted on Obama because of this but it will all fall upon BP in the long run the same as it did with the Exxon Valdez. Most people remember Exxon and not "the drunk captain."
Don't forget. This is BP. It's a British corporation so the fact that it is a "foreign" oil company won't bode well with the American people. Especially when we start seeing the long term impact with the fishing industry in the region.
after all is said and done perhaps it is time to reform our disaster management response policies ?
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researchok Sat, May 29, 2010 5:49:48pm |
re: #422 Gus 802
If we're going to go down the cause route in the eyes of the public there's a big difference between hurricane Katrina (an act of God) and this oil spill (an act of British Petroleum aka BP).
Sure there will be fallout inflicted on Obama because of this but it will all fall upon BP in the long run the same as it did with the Exxon Valdez. Most people remember Exxon and not "the drunk captain."
Don't forget. This is BP. It's a British corporation so the fact that it is a "foreign" oil company won't bode well with the American people. Especially when we start seeing the long term impact with the fishing industry in the region.
Obama won't be blamed for the spill. This will be remembered as the BP spill.
The problem may be the administration response. When people see Bobby "the exorcist" Jindal as more credible than the president, there is a real problem.
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Gus Sat, May 29, 2010 5:50:55pm |
re: #423 brookly red
after all is said and done perhaps it is time to reform our disaster management response policies ?
Yes. I remember years before Katrina FEMA was always getting flack after a number of natural disasters. There are a lot of serious "accidents waiting to happen" as far as disaster response is concerned. You know, we've seen it happen in real time at LGF during the California wildfires last summer.
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brookly red Sat, May 29, 2010 5:52:09pm |
re: #424 researchok
Obama won't be blamed for the spill. This will be remembered as the BP spill.
The problem may be the administration response. When people see Bobby "the exorcist" Jindal as more credible than the president, there is a real problem.
/the day "think globally, act locally" turned & bit it's master... oh my.
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prairiefire Sat, May 29, 2010 5:52:37pm |
re: #394 HoosierHoops
Wasn't it Sea that had a Laker thread the other night? I missed it..Damn it!
I think you can count on Stanley to start a hoops thread when needed.
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researchok Sat, May 29, 2010 5:53:28pm |
re: #425 Gus 802
Yes. I remember years before Katrina FEMA was always getting flack after a number of natural disasters. There are a lot of serious "accidents waiting to happen" as far as disaster response is concerned. You know, we've seen it happen in real time at LGF during the California wildfires last summer.
Seems to me the feds ought to be transferring more money to the states.
FEMA ought to be more like the National Guard, paid for by the feds but most responsive to the state. Something along those lines.
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Gus Sat, May 29, 2010 5:53:42pm |
re: #424 researchok
Obama won't be blamed for the spill. This will be remembered as the BP spill.
The problem may be the administration response. When people see Bobby "the exorcist" Jindal as more credible than the president, there is a real problem.
Obama needs to seriously cut down his "things to do list." I think that's part of why he is so unfocused with this.
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brookly red Sat, May 29, 2010 5:53:57pm |
re: #425 Gus 802
Yes. I remember years before Katrina FEMA was always getting flack after a number of natural disasters. There are a lot of serious "accidents waiting to happen" as far as disaster response is concerned. You know, we've seen it happen in real time at LGF during the California wildfires last summer.
I remember 9/11 well, when shit happens you can't wait for help you just gotta do what needs to be done.
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prairiefire Sat, May 29, 2010 5:54:41pm |
re: #421 reine.de.tout
Oh, quit, please!
Don't you think we should be better than the idiots who blamed Bush? Set an example?
{{Reine}} and a smooch.
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Gus Sat, May 29, 2010 5:55:45pm |
re: #428 researchok
Seems to me the feds ought to be transferring more money to the states.
FEMA ought to be more like the National Guard, paid for by the feds but most responsive to the state. Something along those lines.
I always thought we needed something like a quick disaster reaction force. Not unlike the military. It really surprises me that we don't have anything like that.
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researchok Sat, May 29, 2010 5:56:06pm |
re: #429 Gus 802
Obama needs to seriously cut down his "things to do list." I think that's part of why he is so unfocused with this.
I wish he could, but he can't. The economy (which in addition to being subject to fed influences also has a life of it's own!) is a full time management and oversight job. Then you have the whackjobs in Iran and North Korea....
The poor SOB has a lot on his plate.
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 5:56:31pm |
re: #432 Gus 802
I always thought we needed something like a quick disaster reaction force. Not unlike the military. It really surprises me that we don't have anything like that.
i thought that was a function of the National Guard.
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 5:56:57pm |
re: #433 researchok
I wish he could, but he can't. The economy (which in addition to being subject to fed influences also has a life of it's own!) is a full time management and oversight job. Then you have the whackjobs in Iran and North Korea...
The poor SOB has a lot on his plate.
All Presidents do.
It's a huge job.
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Gus Sat, May 29, 2010 5:57:33pm |
re: #434 reine.de.tout
i thought that was a function of the National Guard.
I meant more specifically oriented for particular disasters. Right now we count on a lot of volunteers for forest fires.
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researchok Sat, May 29, 2010 5:57:57pm |
re: #432 Gus 802
I always thought we needed something like a quick disaster reaction force. Not unlike the military. It really surprises me that we don't have anything like that.
It's called 'big government'.
Change in DC is like turning an aircraft carrier. Takes forever.
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Gus Sat, May 29, 2010 5:58:04pm |
I need some snacks, Lotto tickets, and cigs...
BBL
Go Suns!
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brookly red Sat, May 29, 2010 5:59:27pm |
re: #434 reine.de.tout
i thought that was a function of the National Guard.
Back to my original point, It is the roll of the Governor to declare the emergency and mobilize. Not beg the Fed for permission to do so.
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researchok Sat, May 29, 2010 6:01:54pm |
re: #435 reine.de.tout
All Presidents do.
It's a huge job.
For me, the jury is still out on how this administration will play out.
That said, he's got an enormous amount on his plate, more than usual.
I think he's had some wins, some losses and some draws. What I find depressing is the lack of desire to to really talk about the losses and draws. Every president has those, no big deal. As voters, we do need to talk about the quality of governance, regardless of politics.
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brookly red Sat, May 29, 2010 6:02:42pm |
re: #437 researchok
It's called 'big government'.
Change in DC is like turning an aircraft carrier. Takes forever.
I watched the moving of the Intrepid from my former office window... it would have been a lot easier if they had not removed the perfectly good engines...
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researchok Sat, May 29, 2010 6:03:05pm |
re: #441 brookly red
I watched the moving of the Intrepid from my former office window... it would have been a lot easier if they had not removed the perfectly good engines...
LOL
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prairiefire Sat, May 29, 2010 6:03:28pm |
re: #354 tradewind
Did you see the link on Drudge to Bill Maher's opinion re Obama and how he should go gangsta on BP? Really blatant offensive racial stereotyping , condemnation from left in 5...4...3...
Oh, I'll give it a go. Bill Maher is an anti-vaxxer childless ding dong. Because of his miscall on that issue, everything else he spouts is compromised.
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researchok Sat, May 29, 2010 6:04:20pm |
re: #443 prairiefire
Oh, I'll give it a go. Bill Maher is an anti-vaxxer childless ding dong. Because of his miscall on that issue, everything else he spouts is compromised.
Ain't that the truth. You have to question his critical thinking skills.
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brookly red Sat, May 29, 2010 6:06:11pm |
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 29, 2010 6:09:55pm |
re: #440 researchok
For me, the jury is still out on how this administration will play out.
That said, he's got an enormous amount on his plate, more than usual.
I think he's had some wins, some losses and some draws. What I find depressing is the lack of desire to to really talk about the losses and draws. Every president has those, no big deal. As voters, we do need to talk about the quality of governance, regardless of politics.
Agreed.
Perhaps the campaign period is a better time to discuss those things.
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researchok Sat, May 29, 2010 6:33:53pm |
re: #446 reine.de.tout
Agreed.
Perhaps the campaign period is a better time to discuss those things.
Just the opposite, I believe.
Democracy is messy all the time. It's supposed to be.
Constant questioning os how we do things. That is the power of the press, to hold elected representatives accountable.
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prairiefire Sat, May 29, 2010 6:48:38pm |
re: #410 tradewind
One of the best reasons to hope that the numbers hold up for House Republicans this fall.
Because the Republicans have a better idiot?
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