Disgusting Racist Slurs of the Day

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Today’s disgusting right wing racist is South Carolina Republican Senator Jake Knotts: S.C. Republicans condemn ‘raghead’ comment.

Of course they condemn it. You’re not supposed to use words like this. (In public.)

South Carolina Republicans were quick Thursday evening to condemn the remarks of a prominent Republican State Senator, Jake Knotts, who referred to a gubernatorial candidate as a “raghead” on an online political show today. [Knotts also referred to President Obama with the same term.]

Knotts, a foe of Governor Mark Sanford and his protege, State Rep. Nikki Haley, made the remark of Haley on the local webcast Pub Politics.�

Haley was born a Sikh, and the slur can refer to Arabs, Muslims, or those who — like Sikh men — wear turbans. She is a convert to Christianity.

UPDATE: The State, quoting people who watched the show, quotes Knotts as saying:�

“We already got one raghead in the White House, we don’t need a raghead in the governor’s mansion.”

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108 comments

Bubblehead II Fri, Jun 4, 2010 9:48:47am

[Knotts also referred to President Obama with the same term.]

Sounds like he is a Obama is a sekrit muslim believer as well.

researchok Fri, Jun 4, 2010 9:49:49am

The apology was half assed at best.

Living in the Carolinas has taught me one thing. You never, ever know the depths of stupid state politicians will plumb.

darthstar Fri, Jun 4, 2010 9:50:17am

In his non-apology, Knotts said he was just having fun like they do on Saturday Night Live and that it was an irreverent forum... I always love it when they use racist slurs on Saturday Night Live...they're so funny! Oh, wait...SNL doesn't use racist slurs for comedic purposes...

Obdicut Fri, Jun 4, 2010 9:51:10am

Not to mention that confusing Sikhs with Moslems is fucking stupid.

darthstar Fri, Jun 4, 2010 9:51:11am

re: #1 Bubblehead II

[Knotts also referred to President Obama with the same term.]

Sounds like he is a Obama is a sekrit muslim believer as well.

I believe it's "Sikh-rit Muslim" now.

cliffster Fri, Jun 4, 2010 9:51:11am

what a jackass

Shiplord Kirel Fri, Jun 4, 2010 9:51:50am

The people of SC don't need a Knott-head in the state senate.

King of the Douche, now you may bow Fri, Jun 4, 2010 9:51:58am

I can't be racist, I hate everyone!!
//

darthstar Fri, Jun 4, 2010 9:52:04am

re: #4 Obdicut

Not to mention that confusing Sikhs with Moslems is fucking stupid.

Sikhs will kick your ass, too. I spent a year living among Sikhs...nice people.

Charles Johnson Fri, Jun 4, 2010 9:52:14am

I'm waiting for the SC GOP to call for this guy's resignation. But not holding my breath.

This is deliberate, folks.

Ericus58 Fri, Jun 4, 2010 9:53:13am

I posted this in the overnight thread. Un-acceptable behavior, and not only should it be denounced but Knotts should be denied any funding from all Republican organizations.

researchok Fri, Jun 4, 2010 9:53:35am

re: #10 Charles

I'm waiting for the SC GOP to call for this guy's resignation. But not holding my breath.

This is deliberate, folks.

Yes it was deliberate. He was looking to earn is 'bubba' bona fides.

Shiplord Kirel Fri, Jun 4, 2010 9:53:55am

re: #10 Charles

I'm waiting for the SC GOP to call for this guy's resignation. But not holding my breath.

This is deliberate, folks.

Yep, this may not be any more of a "mistake" than Rand Paul's opposition to the CRA. It is a message to the base.

darthstar Fri, Jun 4, 2010 9:54:00am

re: #7 Shiplord Kirel

The people of SC don't need a Knott-head in the state senate.

They've got Joe "You Lie!" Wilson in congress and Jim "Can't comment as I don't know the context of RndPaul()'s remarks" DeMint in the Senate...it only makes sense that they'd want to have a cracker for Gov.

Bubblehead II Fri, Jun 4, 2010 9:54:35am

re: #5 darthstar

Upding for the word play.

darthstar Fri, Jun 4, 2010 9:54:39am

re: #10 Charles

I'm waiting for the SC GOP to call for this guy's resignation. But not holding my breath.

This is deliberate, folks.

Of course...apologise for the remarks, but get the racist vote locked up tight in the process.

Randall Gross Fri, Jun 4, 2010 9:55:40am

re: #10 Charles

I'm waiting for the SC GOP to call for this guy's resignation. But not holding my breath.

This is deliberate, folks.

When Birchers and birthers are driving the message this crap becomes acceptable. Just another reason I can't be a Republican anymore.

Cato the Elder Fri, Jun 4, 2010 9:56:00am

And here I thought converting to Christianity was supposed to wipe away all your sins and make you a good person in the eyes of other Christians.

Silly me.

researchok Fri, Jun 4, 2010 9:58:26am

re: #16 darthstar

Of course...apologise for the remarks, but get the racist vote locked up tight in the process.

There is something to that, but not as much as you think.

Here in the Carolinas the bubba's want their local guys to speak heir language- but only so much.

House reps and Senators get eaten alive nowadays by voters if they are too 'bubba'. The days of a Jesse Helms or Robert Byrd types getting elected are long over.

Now we get John Edwards. We just can't ein.

Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 4, 2010 9:59:04am

re: #18 Cato the Elder

And here I thought converting to Christianity was supposed to wipe away all your sins and make you a good person in the eyes of other Christians.

Silly me.

To say nothing of loving our neighbor without reservation...

somebody's doing it wrong...

Joo-LiZ Fri, Jun 4, 2010 9:59:56am

The ignorance of those who confuse Sikh's and Muslims is astounding.

I got to attend an awards ceremony by the Toronto Jewish Federation called "Words and Deeds", which is an annual award given to Canadians who are upstanding citizens, role models and have -- in both words and deeds -- helped make the Toronto community a better place.

The year I went, the COO of Scotiabank (Canadian bank), Sabi Marwah was given the award. He is Sikh, and very proud of his Sikh heritage.

It was really quite inspiring to see the coming together of the Sikh and Jewish communities at this awards ceremony, as many people were invited to support him.

I really don't have much tolerance for people who attack Sikh's thinking they are Muslims or Arabs.

Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:00:49am

re: #11 Ericus58

I posted this in the overnight thread. Un-acceptable behavior, and not only should it be denounced but Knotts should be denied any funding from all Republican organizations.

Agreed.

ShaunP Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:01:24am

Oh good g-d:

“This isn’t the first time I’ve said it,” Knotts said. “I’m not on a crusade to downgrade her, but if someone asks me I’ll tell ‘em. And look here, someone wants to vote for her knowing the truth, vote for her.”

Knotts said that South Carolina is a religious community.

“We need a good Christian to be our governor,” he said. “She’s hiding her religion. She ought to be proud of it. I’m proud of my god.”

Knotts says he believes Haley’s father has been sending letters to India saying that Haley is the first Sikh running for high office in America. He says her father walks around Lexington wearing a turban.

“We’re at war over there,” Knotts said.

Asked to clarify, he said he did not mean the United States was at war with India, but was at war with “foreign countries.”

Charles Johnson Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:02:02am

I hope everyone notices that he's also throwing in a shout-out to the Pamela Geller "Obama's a Sekrit Moslem" nutbags.

This was completely deliberate, right down to the insincere apology.

researchok Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:02:41am

re: #17 Thanos

When Birchers and birthers are driving the message this crap becomes acceptable. Just another reason I can't be a Republican anymore.

The GOP is trying to hold out, here. I don't think they will be successful.

Dry times for moderate Republican voters.

Cato the Elder Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:03:53am

Is this guy related to Don Knotts?

Joo-LiZ Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:03:59am

OT:

Erdogan running his mouth again. The CHUTZPAH on that man! Grr...

"I am speaking to them in their own language. The sixth commandment says 'thou shalt not kill'. Did you not understand?" Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said in his harshest words yet since Israeli commandos raided the Mavi Marmara on Monday.

"I'll say [it] again. I say in English 'you shall not kill'. Did you still not understand? So I'll say to you in your own language. I say in Hebrew 'Lo Tirtzakh'," he said in a televised speech to supporters of his Islamist-leaning AK Party.

Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:04:19am

re: #12 researchok

Yes it was deliberate. He was looking to earn is 'bubba' bona fides.

That may not win him the primary. He may have ticked off enough people that 'bubba' votes can't compensate. I hope he has. If he loses the primary behind this then South Carolina will have avoided bigotry and will also have a better GOP gubernatorial candidate.

researchok Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:04:21am

re: #26 Cato the Elder

Is this guy related to Don Knotts?

In spirit, if not DNA.

Nimed Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:05:06am

re: #24 Charles

I hope everyone notices that he's also throwing in a shout-out to the Pamela Geller "Obama's a Sekrit Moslem" nutbags.

This was completely deliberate, right down to the insincere apology.

Your post is also something of a trip down memory lane...
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

researchok Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:05:41am

re: #27 Joo-LiZ

OT:

Erdogan running his mouth again. The CHUTZPAH on that man! Grr...

I'd ask him that very question as it relates to the Turkish treatment if the Armenians, Kurds and Greeks.

wrenchwench Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:06:34am

re: #24 Charles

I hope everyone notices that he's also throwing in a shout-out to the Pamela Geller "Obama's a Sekrit Moslem" nutbags.

This was completely deliberate, right down to the insincere apology.

It's not even a dog whistle. He picked up the ref's whistle. He either believes that's politically safe in SC, or he's just a moron.

Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:06:47am

re: #27 Joo-LiZ

OT:

Erdogan running his mouth again. The CHUTZPAH on that man! Grr...

It's not meant as an absolute prohibition, though. There are other places in the Old Testament where God commands the Jews to wipe out entire cities. He's just flinging propaganda and red meat to his base.

darthstar Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:07:02am

re: #30 Nimed

Your post is also something of a trip down memory lane...
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

The hate is strong in that woman.

Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:08:39am

re: #29 researchok

In spirit, if not DNA.

You gotta nip it in the bud, Andy!

Youtube Video

darthstar Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:09:58am

re: #32 wrenchwench

It's not even a dog whistle. He picked up the ref's whistle. He either believes that's politically safe in SC, or he's just a moron.

He's a moron.

cliffster Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:10:59am

re: #32 wrenchwench

It's not even a dog whistle. He picked up the ref's whistle. He either believes that's politically safe in SC, or he's just a moron.

Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.

Joo-LiZ Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:11:37am

Speaking of disgusting racist slurs...

Nobody except those who trust the IDF Spokespeople will buy this, but check out this newly released audio:

Youtube Video

In response to the Navy warning of the blockade, the Flotilla people said:

"Shut up, go back to Auschwitz" and "We're helping Arabs go against the US, don't forget 9/11"

Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:13:58am

re: #38 Joo-LiZ

Speaking of disgusting racist slurs...

Nobody except those who trust the IDF Spokespeople will buy this, but check out this newly released audio:

[Video]In response to the Navy warning of the blockade, the Flotilla people said:

Is that real? The last voice sounds American.

Kragar Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:14:49am

We've got enough inbred redneck crackers in office, we don't need another.

Fozzie Bear Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:14:55am

re: #28 Dark_Falcon

That may not win him the primary. He may have ticked off enough people that 'bubba' votes can't compensate. I hope he has. If he loses the primary behind this then South Carolina will have avoided bigotry and will also have a better GOP gubernatorial candidate.

In the GOP primary, this can only help him. In the general election, however, it will fuck him.

I think you are underestimating the depravity of the S.C. GOP base.

goddamnedfrank Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:15:50am

re: #38 Joo-LiZ

Speaking of disgusting racist slurs...

Nobody except those who trust the IDF Spokespeople will buy this, but check out this newly released audio:

[Video]

In response to the Navy warning of the blockade, the Flotilla people said:

What the HELL!

I mean, there's dickish, and then there's that.

Lidane Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:16:04am

This guy's an even bigger idiot. He actually thought his opponent was a Manchurian candidate of sorts:

[Link: www.free-times.com...]

Knotts says he believed Haley has been set up by a network of Sikhs and was programmed to run for governor of South Carolina by outside influences in foreign countries. He claims she is hiding her religion and he wants the voters to know about it.

Joo-LiZ Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:16:14am

re: #39 Killgore Trout

Is that real? The last voice sounds American.

There were Americans joining in with the Flotilla.

I agree, it seems pretty ridiculous (the way it was cut and edited, etc.) which is why I say only those who trust IDF Spokespeople will buy it.

I don't know why they even bothered with something like that.

Obdicut Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:16:23am

re: #32 wrenchwench

It's not even a dog whistle. He picked up the ref's whistle. He either believes that's politically safe in SC, or he's just a moron.

The GOP really, really needs to draw a very firm line in the sand, right now, or the party is going to become a regional party of nativists, and nothing more.

If the Democrats are not kept in check by an honest opposition, we're not going to make any progress. Cap-and-trade is a good example: most of the Democrat's proposals for cap-and-trade are flawed and will do little, if any good. But they are not being criticized one those grounds; instead, the GOP is engaging in pure AGW-denial.

We need a strong GOP that's firmly based in reality, not a populist bunch of shouty cynical politicians playing to a nativist, anti-science base.

cliffster Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:16:40am

re: #43 Lidane

This guy's an even bigger idiot. He actually thought his opponent was a Manchurian candidate of sorts:

[Link: www.free-times.com...]

I want to see her birth certificate.

Charles Johnson Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:18:49am

re: #44 Joo-LiZ

There were Americans joining in with the Flotilla.

I agree, it seems pretty ridiculous (the way it was cut and edited, etc.) which is why I say only those who trust IDF Spokespeople will buy it.

I don't know why they even bothered with something like that.

If they release a full recording of that, I'll post it here -- but as it stands, this one's pretty clumsy.

Not saying I don't believe it -- I have no trouble believing it. But the IDF people really should know better than to release something so obviously edited.

Lidane Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:19:07am

re: #45 Obdicut

The GOP really, really needs to draw a very firm line in the sand, right now, or the party is going to become a regional party of nativists, and nothing more.

They're about 40 years too late on that. From the moment the GOP embraced the Dixiecrats and started working on a Southern Strategy, they've become a regional party of nativists. It's just more obvious now that we have an African-American president.

Fozzie Bear Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:19:46am

re: #32 wrenchwench

It's not even a dog whistle. He picked up the ref's whistle. He either believes that's politically safe in SC, or he's just a moron.

The dog whistle is becoming increasingly unnecessary with the GOP base. The moderates have already left, so this is what works with who is left.

He knows exactly what he is doing, and he is doing it because, with his base, it is effective.

wrenchwench Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:20:26am

re: #45 Obdicut

The GOP really, really needs to draw a very firm line in the sand, right now, or the party is going to become a regional party of nativists, and nothing more.

If the Democrats are not kept in check by an honest opposition, we're not going to make any progress. Cap-and-trade is a good example: most of the Democrat's proposals for cap-and-trade are flawed and will do little, if any good. But they are not being criticized one those grounds; instead, the GOP is engaging in pure AGW-denial.

We need a strong GOP that's firmly based in reality, not a populist bunch of shouty cynical politicians playing to a nativist, anti-science base.

I agree with what's needed, but it's not gonna happen. Immigration reform will be the end of the party as we know it. There is no leadership to prevent that. AGW denial will be a secondary cause of death.

Joo-LiZ Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:20:34am

re: #47 Charles

If they release a full recording of that, I'll post it here -- but as it stands, this one's pretty clumsy.

Not saying I don't believe it -- I have no trouble believing it. But the IDF people really should know better than to release something so obviously edited.

I agree.

Obdicut Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:21:22am

re: #48 Lidane

I don't think that's fair to say. The GOP in many places has not acted as such. What we're seeing now is, I believe, the nativism that was always present in the GOP in the south (and tolerated in the national party) rising to prominence in areas it previously wasn't, and rising to naked display in areas it's always been tolerated.

Kragar Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:22:04am

And now, some news from the weird;

Topless ban at beach doesn't apply to transgendered men with enhanced breasts

"Passersby came up to the lifeguard and said they were alarmed and unhappy with the females showing their breasts," Police Chief Keith Banks said. "The lifeguard responded and saw that they were males."

Banks says the men eventually put their shirts back on, but that it could have been difficult to issue a citation because Rehoboth law defines indecent exposure two ways:

A male is guilty of indecent exposure if he exposes his genitals or buttocks under circumstances which he knows his conduct is likely to cause affront or alarm to another person.

A female is guilty of indecent exposure if she exposes her genitals, breasts or buttocks under circumstances which she knows her conduct is likely to cause affront or alarm to another person."

"In this case, they had male genitalia; therefore, they are not guilty of a crime," Banks says.

Joo-LiZ Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:22:10am

re: #47 Charles

If they release a full recording of that, I'll post it here -- but as it stands, this one's pretty clumsy.

Not saying I don't believe it -- I have no trouble believing it. But the IDF people really should know better than to release something so obviously edited.

It's kind of frustrating how "new" (or should I say n00b) the IDF seems in the Internet 2.0 world.

Israel is supposed to be on the cutting edge of technology, they should have people who are more media/communications savvy than that.

Shiplord Kirel Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:22:44am

re: #43 Lidane

This guy's an even bigger idiot. He actually thought his opponent was a Manchurian candidate of sorts:

[Link: www.free-times.com...]

That is serious tin-foilery.....
I wonder what his position is on cooperation with the census?

wrenchwench Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:24:26am

re: #48 Lidane

They're about 40 years too late on that. From the moment the GOP embraced the Dixiecrats and started working on a Southern Strategy, they've become a regional party of nativists. It's just more obvious now that we have an African-American president.

The election of Obama turned their closet door into glass.

Henchman 25 Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:24:59am

re: #53 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm... not at all sure how to react to this. O_o

ryannon Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:25:19am

Liberty, Equality and Fraternity Dept.

Racist French minister fined

PARIS - A COURT convicted France's Interior Minister Brice Hortefeux on Friday of making a racial insult about a young man of Arab origin.

The Paris court fined Mr Hortefeux 750 euros (S$1,276) and ordered him to pay 2,000 euros in damages for comments he made last September about a young activist of the ruling right-wing UMP party of President Nicolas Sarkozy.

'When there's one, it's OK. It's when there are a lot of them that there are problems,' Mr Hortefeux, 52, said in a filmed encounter in September. He was apparently referring to a young man of Algerian parentage - one of France's large community of north African origin - with whom he was getting ready to pose for a photo.

SNIP

researchok Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:25:37am

re: #53 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And now, some news from the weird;

Topless ban at beach doesn't apply to transgendered men with enhanced breasts

Truly weird.

darthstar Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:25:53am

re: #57 SteelPH

I'm... not at all sure how to react to this. O_o

Just say, "Nice tits, cowboy."

Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:26:00am

re: #52 Obdicut

I don't think that's fair to say. The GOP in many places has not acted as such. What we're seeing now is, I believe, the nativism that was always present in the GOP in the south (and tolerated in the national party) rising to prominence in areas it previously wasn't, and rising to naked display in areas it's always been tolerated.

100 percent correct. As some one who has half his family from the south, and I've lived in the southwest for 20 years, this is not new, not right, but not new.

Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:26:34am

Unfortunately, Nikki Haley seems to be no prize either. She's favored by the teabaggers and endorsed by Sarah Palin. She's also attracting allegations of infidelity:

S.C. governor candidate denies 2nd tryst claim

Note that the Associated Press is the source. This is not a wingnut hit piece.

researchok Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:26:40am

re: #58 ryannon

Liberty, Equality and Fraternity Dept.

Racist French minister fined

PARIS - A COURT convicted France's Interior Minister Brice Hortefeux on Friday of making a racial insult about a young man of Arab origin.

The Paris court fined Mr Hortefeux 750 euros (S$1,276) and ordered him to pay 2,000 euros in damages for comments he made last September about a young activist of the ruling right-wing UMP party of President Nicolas Sarkozy.

'When there's one, it's OK. It's when there are a lot of them that there are problems,' Mr Hortefeux, 52, said in a filmed encounter in September. He was apparently referring to a young man of Algerian parentage - one of France's large community of north African origin - with whom he was getting ready to pose for a photo.

SNIP

I'll bet his popularity numbers increase.

cliffster Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:26:47am

re: #52 Obdicut

I don't think that's fair to say. The GOP in many places has not acted as such. What we're seeing now is, I believe, the nativism that was always present in the GOP in the south (and tolerated in the national party) rising to prominence in areas it previously wasn't, and rising to naked display in areas it's always been tolerated.

Well, then it's like the Gilette razors then, right? Lift and cut. Shave off all those racist whiskers.

Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:27:07am

re: #58 ryannon

Liberty, Equality and Fraternity Dept.

Racist French minister fined

PARIS - A COURT convicted France's Interior Minister Brice Hortefeux on Friday of making a racial insult about a young man of Arab origin.

The Paris court fined Mr Hortefeux 750 euros (S$1,276) and ordered him to pay 2,000 euros in damages for comments he made last September about a young activist of the ruling right-wing UMP party of President Nicolas Sarkozy.

'When there's one, it's OK. It's when there are a lot of them that there are problems,' Mr Hortefeux, 52, said in a filmed encounter in September. He was apparently referring to a young man of Algerian parentage - one of France's large community of north African origin - with whom he was getting ready to pose for a photo.

SNIP

It's amazing how many causally racial remarks you'll overhear in certain Western European countries, isn't it?

darthstar Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:27:31am

re: #47 Charles

But the IDF people really should know better than to release something so obviously edited.

I hope they didn't hire O'Keefe to help out in their video room.

Lidane Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:27:54am

re: #52 Obdicut

I don't think that's fair to say. The GOP in many places has not acted as such. What we're seeing now is, I believe, the nativism that was always present in the GOP in the south (and tolerated in the national party) rising to prominence in areas it previously wasn't, and rising to naked display in areas it's always been tolerated.

Thing is, it has been tolerated in the national party because the GOP has spent the last 40+ years courting the Dixiecrats and playing on racial resentments and other issues like them. Couple that with the parallel strategy of the religious right and the socons working their way into the power structures of the party, and it's all one big recipe for disaster.

The reason we're not seeing big outrage from the national party is because the people running the national party, by and large, don't see a problem. Who cares if some liberals and a few squishy moderates get upset when the True Believers will still pull the switch at the voting booth? All we're seeing now is the Southern Strategy writ large. The things they used to turn a blind eye to here in the South are now things they gloss over on a national level.

researchok Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:28:09am

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

Unfortunately, Nikki Haley seems to be no prize either. She's favored by the teabaggers and endorsed by Sarah Palin. She's also attracting allegations of infidelity:

S.C. governor candidate denies 2nd tryst claim

Note that the Associated Press is the source. This is not a wingnut hit piece.

It will get dirtier.

Obdicut Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:28:53am

re: #67 Lidane

The things they used to turn a blind eye to here in the South are now things they gloss over on a national level.

Agreed.

researchok Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:29:51am

re: #65 Aceofwhat?

It's amazing how many causally racial remarks you'll overhear in certain Western European countries, isn't it?

Get outside Paris and you'd be very surprised at what is verbalized.

Sad, but true.

Bubblehead II Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:30:03am

Knotts is backing Republican Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer for governor.

Just went to this guys website. Nothing posted condemning Knotts remarks.

Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:30:23am

re: #68 researchok

It will get dirtier.

That much is certain.

darthstar Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:30:32am

re: #65 Aceofwhat?

It's amazing how many causally racial remarks you'll overhear in certain Western European countries, isn't it?

You can hear them here at home too. Racism knows no boundaries.

CNN...rocket launching now.

darthstar Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:30:57am

re: #73 darthstar

You can hear them here at home too. Racism knows no boundaries.

CNN...rocket launching now.

Damn...they aborted with two seconds left.

ryannon Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:30:59am

re: #63 researchok

I'll bet his popularity numbers increase.

Not really. He's an insufferable ass and everyone knows it. Despite its share of racists and antisemites, France is a fairly tolerant place.

Fozzie Bear Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:31:03am

Thinking that this was a mistake, politically, is to miss the point. This was a play to the GOP base. That it is offensive to non-extremists doesn't matter. What matters is that this exactly what the S.C. GOP base wants to hear.

To miss this point is to misunderstand exactly how extreme the GOP has become, especially in places like S.C.

Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:32:35am

re: #70 researchok

Get outside Paris and you'd be very surprised at what is verbalized.

Sad, but true.

In Belgium, it's primarily anti-Moroccan sentiment, and it's not pretty.

Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:33:39am

If we are going to talk about racism, let us be aware that wea e all racist to a degree: it is aprt of human nature to make judgements about other people based on their appearance.

It is only an important issue if it means that we deny them access to their rights and priveleges based on their race. Some politicians have made it rather clear that they see race as a grounds for denying people these rights.

Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:35:14am

re: #73 darthstar

You can hear them here at home too. Racism knows no boundaries.

I can't speak for Ryannon, but in my experience, it's not even close. I was far more likely to overhear racism.

Targetpractice Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:36:35am

Democrats scrambling over each other to think up new ways of selling us up the river, Republicans seemingly digging through every gutter for the most racist and crazy candidates they can, and the third parties all a mixed bag of loonies.

Stop the ride, I wanna get off.

Obdicut Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:39:27am

re: #80 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Democrats scrambling over each other to think up new ways of selling us up the river

Can you explain what you mean by this?

darthstar Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:42:05am

re: #80 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Democrats scrambling over each other to think up new ways of selling us up the river, Republicans seemingly digging through every gutter for the most racist and crazy candidates they can, and the third parties all a mixed bag of loonies.

Stop the ride, I wanna get off.

Nice slave-trade reference.

ryannon Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:44:02am

What's interesting about this is that the French courts condemned a Minister of the Interior in the exercise of his office.

goddamnedfrank Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:44:06am

re: #79 Aceofwhat?

I can't speak for Ryannon, but in my experience, it's not even close. I was far more likely to overhear racism.

I've found that for some reason foreigners are often far more likely to unload their personal racism on an american than a fellow american is. It's weird, you're just hanging out, having a few beers and suddenly one guy starts talking about how his minority (in terms of share ownership) business partner, who's right there, doesn't really look traditionally japanese enough and is probably of korean extraction. You just sit there and smile through the other guy's discomfort. It's fun.

ryannon Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:46:04am

re: #79 Aceofwhat?

I can't speak for Ryannon, but in my experience, it's not even close. I was far more likely to overhear racism.

It's kind of going out of style here (hard-core racism), particularly with the younger generations.

Targetpractice Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:46:07am

re: #81 Obdicut

Can you explain what you mean by this?

Unfortunately, while I might not agree with the far-right on a lot, I do agree that the spendin' that the Democrats have engaged in since takin' back the majority in '06 is way outta control and we as a nation can't afford to let it continue. Take the tax extension bill that's been dubbed a "Jobs" bill by the addition of...wait for it...yet another unemployment extension, as well as the "Doc Fix" that ultimately was cut from the health care bill to give it the illusion of cutting the deficit. And when it came out that the bill was too expensive, Dems answered by simply cutting two years off the spending, but none of the spending.

Obdicut Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:49:06am

re: #86 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

The spending is not different from that the GOP engaged in. At all. The main difference is the GOP tends to spend while cutting taxes, engaging in more deficit spending.

Furthermore, how the fuck is spending you view as excessive 'selling us down the river'?

Targetpractice Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:54:46am

re: #87 Obdicut

The spending is not different from that the GOP engaged in. At all. The main difference is the GOP tends to spend while cutting taxes, engaging in more deficit spending.

Furthermore, how the fuck is spending you view as excessive 'selling us down the river'?

Never said the GOP's spending was any better. In truth, I think both parties have grown overly comfortable with answering everything with a new spending bill, getting outraged and tossing out accusations when suggestions go up that spending be frozen or cut. Members of both parties are quick to clutch their pearls and get the vapors as they moan about how cutting this or that is simply "unthinkable."

As for the "selling" part, we're financin' a majority of this spendin' through selling off debt to foreign nations, like our good "buddies" the ChiComs. We're mortgaging our grandkids and pretty much our great-grandkids futures now to shovel more money on the fire. We're not Greece yet, but we're damn sure on our way.

Though that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

goddamnedfrank Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:56:06am

re: #85 ryannon

It's kind of going out of style here (hard-core racism), particularly with the younger generations.

My ex had a grandfather who's honest to God nickname was the first three letters of the n-word, given to him because he was the darkest white kid on the farm. That's what he answered to, that's what you had to call him. It was haunting and hilarious at the same time, like I can't believe this 70 something year old, seemingly decent dude actually still goes along with this shit. What the hell.

It's a big country. The casual racism is real casual is some places.

Mark Pennington Fri, Jun 4, 2010 10:56:38am

re: #36 darthstar

He's a moron.

It is very politically safe in SC AND he is a moron.

Obdicut Fri, Jun 4, 2010 11:01:27am

re: #88 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Never said the GOP's spending was any better.

Then what did you mean by saying that the Democrat's sell us down the river, while the GOP engages with racism? Shouldn't you have said that the GOP does both? And why did you talk about the Democrat's spending since 2006?

As for the "selling" part, we're financin' a majority of this spendin' through selling off debt to foreign nations, like our good "buddies" the ChiComs.

And? I'm sorry, but in what way does that sell us down the river? The US sells most debt, still, to domestic, not foreign, sources. And China is one, and only one, of foreign debt-holders. Can you explain how that sells us down the river? I'd say that the anti-science attitude of the GOP, the endorsement of outsourcing of jobs, the tax breaks for corporations that funnel money out of the US by the GOP, all represent a hell of a lot more of that sort of 'selling' than expenditure that accrues debt.

Are you one of those who thinks that no spending was needed during the crash of the economy?

Targetpractice Fri, Jun 4, 2010 11:15:00am

re: #91 Obdicut

And? I'm sorry, but in what way does that sell us down the river? The US sells most debt, still, to domestic, not foreign, sources. And China is one, and only one, of foreign debt-holders. Can you explain how that sells us down the river? I'd say that the anti-science attitude of the GOP, the endorsement of outsourcing of jobs, the tax breaks for corporations that funnel money out of the US by the GOP, all represent a hell of a lot more of that sort of 'selling' than expenditure that accrues debt.

Are you one of those who thinks that no spending was needed during the crash of the economy?

You're asking me basically to defend the GOP, which I'm not gonna do, because I think the GOP at this point is every bit as wrong as the DNC. Point is I've grown sick of the snake oil both sides are sellin', but haven't yet found a third party I could endorse with a straight face. I'd had hopes that perhaps the GOP had had an epiphany after '08, that perhaps the moderates would finally get a leg-up and throw off the last vestiges of craziness and far-right lunacy. Instead, it seems the party has decided to double down and hope the loonies can carry them to greatness.

But, as I said, it's simply my opinion, and I'm no economist. I'm just a guy sittin' out of work, waiting on the world to change.

Obdicut Fri, Jun 4, 2010 11:18:09am

re: #92 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I'm sorry, but the idea that both parties are equally bad is just nutty to me. Even from a probability standpoint, it's outrageously unlikely.

Right now, the GOP's anti-science, Austrian economics, nativist attitudes are far, far, far more reprehensible and dangerous to the United States than the Democrats tendency to overspend is-- especially since the GOP tends to raise government spending more than the Democrats do.

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jun 4, 2010 11:49:32am

re: #4 Obdicut

Not to mention that confusing Sikhs with Moslems is fucking stupid.

And will deeply offend both groups. :)

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jun 4, 2010 11:50:01am

re: #9 darthstar

Sikhs will kick your ass, too. I spent a year living among Sikhs...nice people.

We have several Sikh kids at the school I've been working at. Great families.

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jun 4, 2010 11:52:07am

re: #18 Cato the Elder

And here I thought converting to Christianity was supposed to wipe away all your sins and make you a good person in the eyes of other Christians.

Silly me.

Well, good Christians liked you before too, they're just happy you're saved now.

The other kind...it seems to depend on whether you're useful (Rifqa Bary), in which case you become a sort of saintly figure, or not useful (Haley), in which case you remain a figure of racist fun.

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jun 4, 2010 11:53:32am

re: #21 Joo-LiZ

I really don't have much tolerance for people who attack Sikh's thinking they are Muslims or Arabs.

Well, I also don't have much tolerance for people who attack Muslims or Arabs 'cause they're Muslims or Arabs.

But mistaking Sikhs for Muslims and then attacking them adds 'dumbassery' onto 'bigotry', quite agreed.

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jun 4, 2010 11:54:33am

re: #23 ShaunP

Oh good g-d:

"He says her father walks around Lexington wearing a turban."

And yet, the good people of Lexington somehow persist in living fulfilling lives. I swear, I don't know how they do it.

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jun 4, 2010 11:55:36am

re: #39 Killgore Trout

Is that real? The last voice sounds American.

One of the dead was an American.

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jun 4, 2010 11:57:16am

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

Unfortunately, Nikki Haley seems to be no prize either. She's favored by the teabaggers and endorsed by Sarah Palin. She's also attracting allegations of infidelity:

S.C. governor candidate denies 2nd tryst claim

Note that the Associated Press is the source. This is not a wingnut hit piece.

I'm willing to believe she's no prize, but you attack someone on the issues, not their ethnicity. End o' story.

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jun 4, 2010 11:57:57am

re: #65 Aceofwhat?

It's amazing how many causally racial remarks you'll overhear in certain Western European countries, isn't it?

Jesus, is it ever. The shit the English will say about Hindus in all-white company is hair-raising.

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jun 4, 2010 11:59:15am

re: #78 ralphieboy

If we are going to talk about racism, let us be aware that wea e all racist to a degree: it is aprt of human nature to make judgements about other people based on their appearance.

It is only an important issue if it means that we deny them access to their rights and priveleges based on their race. Some politicians have made it rather clear that they see race as a grounds for denying people these rights.

I'm not going to argue that we don't all carry some racism in our hearts.

I am going to argue that if you call your opponent a [bigoted word], you'd better be aware that polite society just cast your ass out.

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jun 4, 2010 12:01:10pm

re: #89 goddamnedfrank

My ex had a grandfather who's honest to God nickname was the first three letters of the n-word, given to him because he was the darkest white kid on the farm. That's what he answered to, that's what you had to call him. It was haunting and hilarious at the same time, like I can't believe this 70 something year old, seemingly decent dude actually still goes along with this shit. What the hell.

It's a big country. The casual racism is real casual is some places.

Friend of mine grew up in Maine. A teacher at her public school once told her she had 'n****r lips'.

(This, BTW, apparently means that unlike the rest of the Scotch-Irish population of her hometown, you can actually see that there are lips on her face.)

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Lidane Fri, Jun 4, 2010 12:17:54pm

re: #103 SanFranciscoZionist

Friend of mine grew up in Maine. A teacher at her public school once told her she had 'n***r lips'.

One of my friends in high school and I decided that we would take the usual racial slurs that would have been sent our way (I'm Mexican, she's Korean) and turn them around on each other. She called me a certain Korean slur, and I called her a certain Mexican one, and those were our nicknames for each other.

IMO, it was a good way to handle things at the time. By robbing those words of their power and using them in such a ridiculous way, we showed we had a sense of humor about it all, I think.

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steve-b Fri, Jun 4, 2010 12:46:21pm

"South Carolina is too small for a republic and too large for an insane asylum."
--James L. Petigru, in response to the state's secession from the Union

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Jun 4, 2010 1:01:26pm

re: #101 SanFranciscoZionist

Jesus, is it ever. The shit the English will say about Hindus in all-white company is hair-raising.

I saw that! I saw that first hand, also first hand slamming of Roma, also first hand weeeird English racism against black people...

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Jun 4, 2010 1:02:58pm

re: #98 SanFranciscoZionist

"He says her father walks around Lexington wearing a turban."

And yet, the good people of Lexington somehow persist in living fulfilling lives. I swear, I don't know how they do it.

hahahaha dying

WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF HERR KNOTTS' CHILDREN?!?!?!

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JEA62 Fri, Jun 4, 2010 5:57:59pm

You know it's bad when even Ace of Spades is bashing the guy & questioning his GOP membership.

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