Did Reuters Crop Out a Broken Bottle?

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Here we go again.

The IHH website which was apparently supplying Reuters with their photos (which someone at Reuters then cropped to remove incriminating evidence of weapons) has now removed all photos from their site, possibly to prevent finding any more cropped images. But Reuters continues to publish photos from the “activists.”

For example, this one:

You may recall this video, showing the activists arming themselves with metal pipes, knives, body armor … and broken bottles.

Did Reuters crop this image to remove the jagged end of a broken bottle? I can’t say for sure, since the originals are now hidden by the IHH. But notice the caption:

A pro-Palestinian activist holds a bottle…

Yep, just standing there holding a bottle. I guess you get pretty thirsty wearing a gas mask.

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105 comments

Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:17:47am

I’d also like to see what the guy on the left is holding. I’d be willing to bet the pic is cropped again to remove evidence.

alexknyc Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:18:13am

The really sad part about this is that it’s no longer surprising behavior from al-Reuters.

Kefirah Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:18:59am

he needs the gas mask to protect his delicate journalist’s nostrils from the stench of guilt.

glad to see al-reuters’ integrity going up in flames [as if it hadn’t a long time ago].

Shiplord Kirel Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:23:45am

They should be crapping out a broken bottle today as this goes viral.

Cheese Eating Victory Monkey Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:25:17am

Just ~~Christening~~ the new SS Knivesintheair
/sarc

Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:25:36am

Carrying over from last thread:

The captions for the photos are also showing bias. Even the language used— like them ‘holding’ the Israeli commando— is stupid. They’re not ‘holding’ him. They’re restraining him. A few of the photos have, more accurately ‘holding down’. But ‘holding’ instead of the more natural ‘restraining’ seems weird.

Or, for example, this one:

[Link: www.daylife.com…]

Pro-Palestinian activists are seen onboard the Gaza-bound Turkish ship Mavi Marmara in the international waters of the Mediterranean Sea

They don’t mention the ‘pro-palestinian’ ‘activists’ are holding weapons (and a single hit from an iron bar can maim or kill someone, that’s not a fucking around weapon), they make sure to note the ship is in international waters, and they call it “Gaza-Bound”, not mentioning it’s trying to run a blockade or that it was legal for the Israelis to board it in international waters.

Maybe I’m overparsing, but it seems like every time they have an opportunity to clarify in favor of the Israelis, they don’t take it, and all terminology is slanted slightly towards the ‘activists’.

Kefirah Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:26:33am

re: #6 Obdicut

in today’s information age, diction counts. don’t think you’re over.parsing at all.

sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:26:42am

Yep, just standing there holding a bottle. I guess you get pretty thirsty wearing a gas mask.

You’ve got it all wrong

Thats a bottle of champagne to celebrate the arrival of the marines. The gas mask is an OSHA safety mandate. You KNOW sometimes when you open a bottle of champagne the cork flies off and could take an eye out, not to mention the liquid itself shooting out

Joo-LiZ Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:28:07am

re: #6 Obdicut

you linked the wrong image.
[Link: www.daylife.com…]

Stonemason Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:28:18am

C’mon, it’s a green bottle. The answer is simple, he’s trying to figure out what the “33” is all about.

Political Atheist Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:30:28am

re: #1 Killgore Trout

As I overlay the shot on various aspect rations (APS chip or full frame) I can kinda guess at the cropping, depending on which orientation you presume. I’m not an expert I just use PS… Look like there is a lot gone from the left. I’m trying to infer the photographers angle by the flash glare.

lawhawk Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:30:45am

By the way, it does look like the bottle is broken - you can see the spider-marks of a broken bottle near the guy’s thumb and forefinger.

Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:30:58am

re: #6 Obdicut

And also, reposting:

[Link: www.daylife.com…]

No photoshopping, but the text reads:

Blood is seen on steps onboard the Gaza-bound Turkish ship Mavi Marmara in the international waters of the Mediterranean Sea early May 31, 2010. Israeli marines stormed the Turkish aid ship bound for Gaza on Monday and nine pro-Palestinian activists were killed, triggering a diplomatic crisis and an emergency session of the U.N. Security Council. Picture taken May 31, 2010.

To me, that captioning is implying the blood came from the dead activists, whereas we’ve seen wounded Israelis being dragged along that stairwell. It makes no mention of the attack on the Israelis. It makes sure to mention that the activists were killed.

Political Atheist Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:31:09am

re: #11 Rightwingconspirator

PIMF “Ratios”

cliffster Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:32:05am

Take it down,
pass it around…

Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:32:42am

100 bottles of beer on the boat,
100 bottles of beer…

sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:33:30am

re: #10 Stonemason

C’mon, it’s a green bottle. The answer is simple, he’s trying to figure out what the “33” is all about.

/

Maybe the Gazans think that Rolling ROCK can be used as a weapon!

Kefirah Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:34:05am

re: #12 lawhawk

fair point. also, the bottle is clearly empty of all contents. you would be able to see it [it being beer, or champagne, or water, or whatever] - and this is true even if the majority of the liquid inside had been consumed, due to the angle at which the man is holding it.

so, either an empty bottle held at a VERY odd angle, or broken. given all of the other information on the mavi, i’m going to go with the latter for $1000, trebek.

Petero1818 Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:34:19am

I cant believe they cropped out the straw.//

Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:35:51am

this one is almost certainly cropped too….
[Link: www.daylife.com…]

It’s another angle of the soldier at the top of the stairs by the bloody railing. We know there was a knife being held above him at that point but the picture is conveniently cut off near where the knife would have been visible.

Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:37:07am

re: #20 Killgore Trout

this one is almost certainly cropped too…
[Link: www.daylife.com…]

It’s another angle of the soldier at the top of the stairs by the bloody railing. We know there was a knife being held above him at that point but the picture is conveniently cut off near where the knife would have been visible.

Is s interesting look behind the buy in the life jacket. There’s a camera crew filming.

Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:39:15am

Speaking of beer, I think I’m going to like this new bar:

[Link: www.princeofpetworth.com…]

Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:39:26am

By the way, for your photoshoppy guys, the daylife pictures are stores like this:

(removed HTTP so this won’t Pop) cache.daylife.com/imageserve/071A0r8e0C3GE/x610.jpg

If you alter the number after the x to a higher number, you get a bigger picture, like so.

Image: x910.jpg

alexknyc Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:40:28am

I’ve been reading LGF for almost two years and I often forget there are a lot of people out there who still believe they’re getting unbiased news from the MSM.

sattv4u2 Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:40:41am

re: #21 Killgore Trout

Is s interesting look behind the buy in the life jacket. There’s a camera crew filming.

To be edited and shown in madrassa’s to show the ‘brave” jihadists battling the evil Zionists

Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:41:45am

re: #23 Obdicut

In that picture it looks to me like the commando is carrying a knife, which is still sheathed, unused.

Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:42:51am

re: #23 Obdicut

By the way, for your photoshoppy guys, the daylife pictures are stores like this:

(removed HTTP so this won’t Pop) cache.daylife.com/imageserve/071A0r8e0C3GE/x610.jp g

If you alter the number after the x to a higher number, you get a bigger picture, like so.

Image: x910.jpg

That’s very cool, I didn’t know that. I can definitely see the camera crew filming the hostage taking.

cliffster Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:45:20am

re: #21 Killgore Trout

Is s interesting look behind the buy in the life jacket. There’s a camera crew filming.

It’s all just a big fucking propaganda game.

alexknyc Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:46:30am

re: #28 cliffster

It’s all just a big fucking propaganda game.

And it’s working too.

People will believe what they see and they’re told. Rarely, does anyone actually look beyond the limited view of the MSM

Amory Blaine Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:46:34am

When they’re in line for weapons, who wanted the bottle? Is that the last weapon aka the booby prize?

Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:46:55am

re: #27 Killgore Trout

And blowing this one up I think we can clearly see the blood is from a defensive wound on the hand:

Image: x990.jpg

And lying underneath him you can see one of the hacked-off bars that were being held by the ‘activists’ in another photo.

wiffersnapper Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:48:35am

If he’s drinking from the bottle, he’s doing it all wrong!

Amory Blaine Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:49:16am

re: #29 alexknyc

When even the sheep are awakened, this will be an ungovernable nation.

alexknyc Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:49:54am

It does look like a Rolling Rock bottle.

What kind of Islamic activist drinks beer?

The kind who believe they are going to die for Jihad.

ShaunP Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:52:00am

re: #31 Obdicut

And blowing this one up I think we can clearly see the blood is from a defensive wound on the hand:

Image: x990.jpg

And lying underneath him you can see one of the hacked-off bars that were being held by the ‘activists’ in another photo.

I was going to post that one up too. Is that the end of a crow bar in the top of the picture next to the gas mask can? I can’t tell…

Kefirah Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:52:22am

re: #31 Obdicut

what concerns me is how the “activist” is holding up fingers in the soldier’s face, as though he sustained some head trauma.

here is a published list of the soldiers still in need of a refuah shleimah [provided by the council of young israel]:

dean ben svetlana
roee ben shulamit
yotam ben dorit
ido ben ilana
boris ben eelaina

please daven [pray] for these brave individuals. identifying surnames have been removed by tzahal, for security purposes. it is the jewish tradition, when praying for healing, to pray using one’s given name and the name of one’s mother.

Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:53:07am

On the ‘other side’, Firedoglake is taking issue with the charge that IHH is an Islamist group:

[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com…]

Four More Tears Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:53:40am

Betcha the Reuters brass was more upset with IHH for posting the originals than they were with whomever cropped the them.

alexknyc Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:55:05am

re: #38 JasonA

Betcha the Reuters brass was more upset with IHH for posting the originals than they were with whomever cropped the them.

The IHH may have removed the pictures but, on the internet, nothing really ever disappears.

Kefirah Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:56:21am

accidentally left a name off of the list of soldiers injured during the flotilla boarding:

daniel lazar ben tina taabel leah

a refuah shleimah for him, as well.

Four More Tears Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:56:25am

re: #39 alexknyc

The IHH may have removed the pictures but, on the internet, nothing really ever disappears.

Whole days of my life have vanished on it…

cliffster Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:59:44am

re: #40 Kefirah

I don’t understand a single thing you said. Sounds like good stuff though - have an upding.

alexknyc Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:01:06am

re: #37 Obdicut

On the ‘other side’, Firedoglake is taking issue with the charge that IHH is an Islamist group

It looked to me like he/she/it was only taking issue with the “IHH linked to al-Qaeda” report.

But, I only skimmed through it. My bullshit detector exploded and I had to go get a new one.

Charles Johnson Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:02:03am

Folks - you need to share and retweet these posts if you want them to get noticed. For some reason people aren’t using those features very much, but it’s extremely easy to do and it would help enormously if more people did it.

Kefirah Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:03:08am

re: #42 cliffster

refuah shleimah is a jewish prayer for healing. and thank you for the upding, though if you would please pass the names ‘round, that’d make my day even more.

alexknyc Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:04:14am

re: #44 Charles

Folks - you need to share and retweet these posts if you want them to get noticed. For some reason people aren’t using those features very much, but it’s extremely easy to do and it would help enormously if more people did it.

Sorry but I’m a technological imbecile.

How do I put these stories on my facebook?

Cato the Elder Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:05:07am

Oh, come on. He’s a peace activist. Obviously he’s going to welcome the IDF with a drink.

Kefirah Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:05:30am

re: #44 Charles

done and done, fearless leader.

cliffster Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:07:14am

re: #45 Kefirah

refuah shleimah is a jewish prayer for healing. and thank you for the upding, though if you would please pass the names ‘round, that’d make my day even more.

you got it, buddy

Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:11:35am

re: #44 Charles

I’ve created a twitter account now.

Cato the Elder Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:12:26am

re: #6 Obdicut

Carrying over from last thread:

The captions for the photos are also showing bias. Even the language used— like them ‘holding’ the Israeli commando— is stupid. They’re not ‘holding’ him. They’re restraining him. A few of the photos have, more accurately ‘holding down’. But ‘holding’ instead of the more natural ‘restraining’ seems weird.

Or, for example, this one:

[Link: www.daylife.com…]

They don’t mention the ‘pro-palestinian’ ‘activists’ are holding weapons (and a single hit from an iron bar can maim or kill someone, that’s not a fucking around weapon), they make sure to note the ship is in international waters, and they call it “Gaza-Bound”, not mentioning it’s trying to run a blockade or that it was legal for the Israelis to board it in international waters.

Maybe I’m overparsing, but it seems like every time they have an opportunity to clarify in favor of the Israelis, they don’t take it, and all terminology is slanted slightly towards the ‘activists’.

You are not overparsing. The Reuters captions were translated directly from the Farsi. Or the Arabic.

If the IDF marines were standing on their feet, one could say the “activists” were grappling with them.

Or fighting. Fighting would be a good, neutral word.

Since the pictures I’ve seen show IDF guys on the deck, with people - ahem - restraining them, “holding” is not a neutral word.

Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:15:15am

Jerusalem post: Gov’t disturbed by Reuters’ cropping of raid photos

A letter was sent to Reuters chief Tom Glocer on Monday expressing the “grave concern of the government of Israel” over the cropping of photographs taken from the Turkish Mavi Marama ship last week by Minister of Public Diplomacy and Diaspora Affairs MK Yuli Edelstein.

The photos, which were published on Sunday in the Turkish Hurriyet daily, showed images of the commandos, their fatigues stained with blood, subdued by passengers aboard the Mavi Marmara ship but excluded the knives held by passengers.

At the popular blog LittleGreenFootballs.com, which initially took note of the missing knife, the blog’s founder Charles Johnson posted the story along with exhibits of both sets of pictures to the site.

Nice!

cliffster Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:16:26am

re: #44 Charles

retweeted away, amigo

Four More Tears Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:18:18am

re: #52 Killgore Trout

I see a FreeThinker left a comment on the Lede about it. We have one of those, don’t we?

Cato the Elder Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:18:27am

Wow. 97 hits from Reuters today. So far.

Is that you, Inayat?

[Cato moons monitor]

pharmmajor Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:20:14am

OT: The anti-Semitism is coming out in full force over on HuffPo regarding the Helen Thomas controversy. You wouldn’t believe how many people are saying “Jews control the media/the country” in the threads.

ShaunP Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:20:45am

re: #56 pharmmajor

OT: The anti-Semitism is coming out in full force over on HuffPo regarding the Helen Thomas controversy. You wouldn’t believe how many people are saying “Jews control the media/the country” in the threads.

I believe it…

alexknyc Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:21:10am

re: #56 pharmmajor

OT: The anti-Semitism is coming out in full force over on HuffPo regarding the Helen Thomas controversy. You wouldn’t believe how many people are saying “Jews control the media/the country” in the threads.

Yes I would

Bloodnok Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:21:25am

re: #52 Killgore Trout

Jerusalem post: Gov’t disturbed by Reuters’ cropping of raid photos

Nice!

Fantastic. Well done KT and Charles.

Dancing along the light of day Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:21:28am

Just checked the referrers list. Freepers are on this, and something like Greenstijl has over 16000 hits! Looks like the word is getting out!

Idle Drifter Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:21:53am

re: #52 Killgore Trout

Awesome, Killgore Trout!!! It’s clear cut evidence through and through that the passengers were all laying in wait to ambush the Commando Raid and score a propaganda win when the Israelis went hot with their weapons. Charles keeping fighting the good fight.

Four More Tears Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:22:19am

re: #60 Floral Giraffe

Just checked the referrers list. Freepers are on this, and something like Greenstijl has over 16000 hits! Looks like the word is getting out!

The Corner and David Frum, too.

Kefirah Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:22:47am

re: #56 pharmmajor

i believe it, too. some new york magazine comments show the same vitriolic rage. the only difference is, the offending comments at the new york magazine site were immediately flagged and removed.

darthstar Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:22:56am

re: #26 Obdicut

In that picture it looks to me like the commando is carrying a knife, which is still sheathed, unused.

I think that’s where the knife in the photos discussed earlier came from…could be they removed it from the commandos to stab them, or to keep the commandos from using them in self defense…can’t tell much from a still shot, so I won’t speculate either way…besides, I’ve seen no reports on how many commandos were stabbed with knives (either knives the boat people had or those they may have taken from commandos). I’m sure someone here will educate me on this, however.

RogueOne Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:24:12am

Helen thomas is retiring:

[Link: wireupdate.com…]

Shiplord Kirel Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:24:33am

re: #52 Killgore Trout

Excellent!

Attention Reuters visitors: “THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING.”

MagnaniomousCoward Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:24:43am

re: #52 Killgore Trout

The article has been lengthened/updated it seems.

Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:24:44am

re: #56 pharmmajor

Most of DU is defending Thomas. No surprises there.

darthstar Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:24:53am

re: #65 RogueOne

Helen thomas is retiring:

[Link: wireupdate.com…]

That was predictable.

Four More Tears Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:24:59am

re: #65 RogueOne

Helen thomas is retiring:

[Link: wireupdate.com…]

Betcha she got some angry e-mails…

alexknyc Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:25:01am

re: #65 RogueOne

Helen thomas is retiring:

[Link: wireupdate.com…]

Probably blames the Jews for that too.

Good riddance!

MagnaniomousCoward Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:25:35am

re: #65 RogueOne

Like Dan Rather, and Zinedine Zidane, she ends it on a low note.

lawhawk Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:25:38am

re: #65 RogueOne

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:25:59am

re: #65 RogueOne

Helen thomas is retiring:

[Link: wireupdate.com…]

Can’t be fast enough.

Targetpractice Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:26:22am

re: #65 RogueOne

Helen thomas is retiring:

[Link: wireupdate.com…]

*deadpan* Oh, my heart bleeds for her.

Kefirah Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:26:39am

arutz sheva is running a similar story, though without credit to charles:

[Link: www.israelnationalnews.com…]

RogueOne Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:26:45am

re: #71 alexknyc

Probably blames the Jews for that too.

Good riddance!

You know she is.

cliffster Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:27:16am

re: #65 RogueOne

Helen thomas is retiring:

[Link: wireupdate.com…]

that’s good news. This was weird though -

“I deeply regret my comments I made last week regarding the Israelis and the Palestinians,” Thomas said in an earlier apology. “They do not reflect my heart-felt belief that pace will come to the Middle East only when all parties recognize the need for mutual respect and tolerance. May that day come soon.”

Pace? Picante sauce will come to the Middle East?

Cato the Elder Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:27:34am

re: #65 RogueOne

Helen thomas is retiring:

[Link: wireupdate.com…]

And this, after her long career, is what she’ll be remembered for. Good work, Helen. How to torpedo your life at the age of almost ninety with one revealing outburst.

alexknyc Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:28:30am

re: #78 cliffster

Those words represent her deeply-held beliefs all right.

webevintage Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:28:38am

re: #56 pharmmajor

OT: The anti-Semitism is coming out in full force over on HuffPo regarding the Helen Thomas controversy. You wouldn’t believe how many people are saying “Jews control the media/the country” in the threads.

I’m not surprised seeing how ugly things have gotten in regards to Israel.
Only Pat Buchanan seems to be able to get a pass.
There are things you don’t blurt out on TV no matter who outspoken one is.
It has nothing to do with the JOOS!!!!1111!!! and everything to do with “this is how you keep your job unless you want to retire with a sad asterisk next to your name”.
Helen announced her retirement today.

Shiplord Kirel Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:28:55am

re: #65 RogueOne

Helen thomas is retiring:

[Link: wireupdate.com…]

20 50 70 years too late

Maybe Obama can invite all the living ex-presidents and former press secretaries to the White House for a celebration. Carter could be left out, though. Helen was pretty easy on him, for reasons that are all too obvious now.

Idle Drifter Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:29:04am

re: #78 cliffster

The problem for her was that her heartfelt belief was on proper display last week.

brennant Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:31:43am

re: #81 webevintage

The Jews control the White House? The Media? Did I just read comments like that at Huffington Post?

Wow.

alexknyc Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:33:27am

re: #46 alexknyc

Sorry but I’m a technological imbecile.

How do I put these stories on my facebook?

I’ve made my name blue if someone would like to email instructions but I was hoping for it to be in a public comment because I doubt I’m the only one who has no idea how to spread the word.

Targetpractice Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:36:16am

LGF just suddenly jump the curb again for anybody else?

alexknyc Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:37:19am

re: #86 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

LGF just suddenly jump the curb again for anybody else?

Yes, and now my comment seems to have been double-posted.

cliffster Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:37:25am

re: #86 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

LGF just suddenly jump the curb again for anybody else?

yes, it was after I retweeted this article.

Cato the Elder Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:37:55am

If Helen Thomas had simply blurted out “they [the Israelis] should get the hell out of Palestine”, I would have given her a pass.

Plenty of people think that. Depending on how you define “Palestine”, I would even agree. For example, if it means a state alongside Israel that recognizes its neighbor, renounces the charter passages calling for said neighbor’s destruction, and does everything in its power to keep terrorists from sabotaging the peace, then, hellz yeah, get the hell out.

But her continued comments made it clear that she actually believes “Palestine” to include all of present-day Israel, and that the Jews have no business being there at all.

Top that off with her rabid, nasty, gratuitous notion that “they” should go back to the two countries that did the most to wipe them out, and she’s showing her true colors.

That her closest collaborator, the man who co-wrote her latest book and was working on other projects with her, very publicly distanced himself from her on a Sunday speaks volumes.

Retirement was overdue.

Kefirah Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:37:59am

re: #88 cliffster

it’s been wonky for me all morning. perhaps increased traffic…?

here’s hopin’.

Bloodnok Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:38:25am

re: #21 Killgore Trout

Good photo of the guy with the camera.

blueraven Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:39:07am

I have generally refrained from commenting on this entire storyline, as I do not feel I am knowledgeable enough on the subject. However, I have been reading and appreciate the complexity and have been trying to educate myself. I am proud to be a small part of this blog that seeks the truth, digs deeper than catchy slogans and bumper sticker politics.

Kudos to Charles and KT for calling out Reuters as well as other media for twisting the truth. And to all of the well informed posters here that take a rational and patient approach in their comments. It has been enlightening.

Shiplord Kirel Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:39:44am

re: #65 RogueOne

Helen thomas is retiring:

[Link: wireupdate.com…]

20 50 70 years too late

Shiplord Kirel Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:40:47am

re: #86 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

LGF just suddenly jump the curb again for anybody else?

Yes, it’s been doing that all morning.

Bombarafat Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:42:52am

Maybe now that Helen Thomas is unemployed she can join a flotilla.

alexknyc Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:43:06am

re: #89 Cato the Elder

But her continued comments made it clear that she actually believes “Palestine” to include all of present-day Israel, and that the Jews have no business being there at all.

We have a vocabulary problem; the Arabs are not using the term “occupied territories” the same way we are.

We, in the West, use it to refer to Gaza and the West Bank.

The Arabs use it to refer to ALL of Israel.

The sooner we in the West recognize that, the better.

MagnaniomousCoward Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:44:10am

New front page article: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

Targetpractice Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:44:24am

Unfortunately, I doubt that Helen will get the good schellaking from the press that she deserves, not simply for her bile and hate-filled words of last week, but for the decades of treating her seat in the press briefings as a bully pulpit for her own agenda. Instead, she’ll get a warm send-off, fondly remembered for her years of “dedicated” service in the press, with people suddenly unable to find anything bad about her to say.

ryannon Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:47:37am

re: #45 Kefirah

refuah shleimah is a jewish prayer for healing. and thank you for the upding, though if you would please pass the names ‘round, that’d make my day even more.

I’ll repost your complete list in ulterior threads.

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ryannon Mon, Jun 7, 2010 9:50:35am

re: #52 Killgore Trout