Tech Review: EyeTV HD

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Today I’ll be watching the Lakers-Celtics game with my new Elgato EyeTV HD DVR for HD cable and satellite TV. I’ve had an EyeTV 200 connected to my Mac Pro desktop computer for years; it does a decent job with standard cable television (although the Firewire 400 connection gets a bit flaky at times). The EyeTV HD is a significant improvement over El Gato’s previous models, and their first device that lets you view and record HD signals from set-top boxes.

The biggest new feature, of course, is that you can connect the EyeTV HD to any standard cable or satellite HD-capable set-top box, and with the help of the included EyeTV DVR software, do everything a TiVo does and much more. Video is recorded in H.264 format, and can be exported in various formats, including for iPod and iPhone. (And the videos look fantastic on an iPhone display.)

The EyeTV HD hardware is contained in a 125mm square silver box. The back panel has inputs for component video (RGB cables), S-video, and L/R audio, and a USB port for connecting to the Mac. All power is supplied by the USB cable, so you’ll need to plug it into a powered port; I plugged it into a free port on the back of my Mac Pro.

There’s also a plug for the IR Blaster, a great new addition to the EyeTV devices. The IR Blaster is a cable with a small infrared LED on one end, that sends the necessary signals to change channels on your set-top box. The cable has adhesive pads so you can stick it to whatever surface is most convenient; it has to be within line of sight to the box’s IR sensor, of course.

Instead of using the adhesive pads, however, I simply laid the cable across my set-top box with the IR light hanging over the end, less than an inch from the box’s IR sensor. It looks something like this (in fact, it looks exactly like this):

Positioned this way, the IR Blaster works flawlessly to change channels; I set the speed one tick below the fastest setting and it never misses changing to the correct channel.

If you’re a new EyeTV user, installing the EyeTV recording software will get everything set up correctly. If you already have the EyeTV software installed, you’ll need to run the EyeTV Setup Assistant to properly configure your IR Blaster to match your set-top box.

But to the real nitty-gritty: the quality of the HD signal is really excellent. On a Mac 30” monitor it’s a wondrous thing to behold. Recording works flawlessly as well. If you have a cable or satellite system that offers HD video, and a Mac computer, this is an accessory you should own. High Definition video will spoil you very rapidly; after you spend a while watching HD, standard video looks awfully grainy. And Apple monitors are terrific at displaying HD content.

The EyeTV software, after years of development, is also excellent; in the past I had problems with crashing and other issues, but the latest versions have been rock solid. Scheduling recordings is a one-click process, thanks to a very nice interface that connects to either a free guide service, or to the official TV Guide service which costs money but offers expanded listings and better information and reviews.

My one kvetch is that the EyeTV HD has no optical audio I/O, which means you’re limited to L/R stereo sound. This is a relatively minor complaint, though, for a ground-breaking piece of Mac hardware.

Rating: four stars out of five. (I’d give it five stars if it had optical audio.)

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30 comments
1 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jun 13, 2010 4:26:41pm

Hey, my Comcast cable HDTV box looks just like that!

2 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 13, 2010 4:30:04pm

Yeah, it's a very common type of Motorola set-top box. Used all over the US.

It turned out to be the third Motorola choice in the IR Blaster setup screen.

3 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 13, 2010 4:33:30pm

re: #2 Charles

Yeah, it's a very common type of Motorola set-top box. Used all over the US.

It turned out to be the third Motorola choice in the IR Blaster setup screen.

I've always been a fan of Motorola. I actually sold some of the early models of their cable box back in 2002.

4 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 13, 2010 4:35:56pm

This Motorola box has all kinds of inputs and outputs that come with no explanation. What are you supposed to do with those two FireWire 400 ports? What's on the USB lines? And what's up with that mini-CD drive on the right front? It also has video and USB inputs on the front for some reason...

It's like a vision of expandability gone a little wacky, because I don't think there are actually devices that can use any of these ports.

5 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jun 13, 2010 4:41:05pm

This sounds great. I have to keep it in mind when I do go to cable.

6 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Jun 13, 2010 4:41:36pm

Charles -

Your Set Top Box looks like a "Phone Company" Box. Please tell me it isn't. Here in Asbury Park, NJ, Verizon pressured us to allow them to wire for "FIOS."
I was in charge of getting the Verizon and Sub-Contractor Technicians through our buildings with minimum friction. After all was said and done, TV was equal, Phone was less features, about the same price, and Internet was STILL 768K - ENHANCED DIAL-UP!! I don't Love the Cable Company - AND - The PHONE COMPANY is WORSE. And that IS the Way It Is. -S-

7 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 13, 2010 4:42:26pm

re: #4 Charles

This Motorola box has all kinds of inputs and outputs that come with no explanation. What are you supposed to do with those two FireWire 400 ports? What's on the USB lines? And what's up with that mini-CD drive on the right front? It also has video and USB inputs on the front for some reason...

It's like a vision of expandability gone a little wacky, because I don't think there are actually devices that can use any of these ports.

Some devices simply have such ports for future growth. I've seen DirecTV receivers with USB ports that were unusable when the box was made. The ports were to allow things to be added on later.

8 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 13, 2010 4:43:41pm

re: #4 Charles

This Motorola box has all kinds of inputs and outputs that come with no explanation. What are you supposed to do with those two FireWire 400 ports? What's on the USB lines? And what's up with that mini-CD drive on the right front? It also has video and USB inputs on the front for some reason...

It's like a vision of expandability gone a little wacky, because I don't think there are actually devices that can use any of these ports.

Actually, I did research one time, and that slot on the front is for some kinda card, not a Mini-CD. It's purpose and origin, unknown.

9 Ghazicide  Sun, Jun 13, 2010 4:50:53pm

It's quite possible some of those ports don't work at all, FW never updated and whatnot. A few years ago in Hawaii the Scientific Atlanta boxes had HDMI inputs that didn't work until a future FW update. Argh.

if you ever get missed IR commands the first culprit I look at is delays between IR commands. If you ever have an occasional issue (more prevalent with 4 digit channel numbers and DirecTV) check inter-IR command delays, and IR output signal strength levels, if this device allows you to change them.

If not... get some masking tape!

10 Virginia Plain  Sun, Jun 13, 2010 4:52:31pm

This is another way to rip videos to be put on youtube, right?

11 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 13, 2010 4:55:22pm

re: #10 Virginia Plain

This is another way to rip videos to be put on youtube, right?

Well, er, it, uh, could be used for that, I suppose...

HD Boston Pops doing the Star-Spangled Banner now. Final approach to tip-off.

12 MagnaniomousCoward  Sun, Jun 13, 2010 4:56:33pm

Thanks for the review. I've been experimenting with MythTV and Freevo on a Linux computer lately, and been thinking of getting a TV card for terrestrial digital broadcasting, or just getting a normal set-top box and feeding the video signal into my old analog TV card in the computer.

13 Racer X  Sun, Jun 13, 2010 4:56:52pm

I have TW Cable HD. It seems to work OK.

The grass always seems to be greener tho - lately I have been thinking about FIOS or U-verse and wondering is it better?

14 MagnaniomousCoward  Sun, Jun 13, 2010 4:58:48pm

Also, on my MacBook Pro, I spent some time calibrating the colour and gamma values. Under the old setting, I thought compression artifacts were too visible in low-quality videos.

15 Ghazicide  Sun, Jun 13, 2010 5:06:34pm

Is that how you ended up with the blue football in your avatar? Or do you not have enough red? LOL

16 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 13, 2010 5:12:13pm

re: #14 MagnaniomousCoward

Also, on my MacBook Pro, I spent some time calibrating the colour and gamma values. Under the old setting, I thought compression artifacts were too visible in low-quality videos.

You can play with video settings of the EyeTV HD in the preferences pane -- the default looks pretty great though, and I haven't messed with any of that.

17 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Jun 13, 2010 5:12:36pm

re: #13 Racer X

RacerX -

See MY #6 above. Fios is:
1. Good TV
2. Good Phone - More expensive than cable if all cable features added.
3. Internet - Nothing More than 768k Enhanced Dial Up here on the "Right Coast" presently.
ALL IN ALL - A BAD DEAL - PRESENTLY. And that is NOT COUNTING Legacy Excise Taxes and OUTRAGEOUS Early Termination Fees - something like $300 early terminating a 2 Year Contract.
I am sure the Phone Co's. Could do better, way better if they were freed from the Legacy "BS Taxes." Of course, that would require "de-regulation" an unpopular term these days. -S-

18 KDS1  Sun, Jun 13, 2010 5:16:07pm

I assume this is going to be the Lakers-Celtics thread as well?

19 KDS1  Sun, Jun 13, 2010 5:16:50pm

re: #18 KDS1

I assume this is going to be the Lakers-Celtics thread as well?

NM, i just saw the thread...

20 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Jun 13, 2010 5:19:54pm

re: #18 KDS1

KDS1 -

Hell NO. NBA Championships "happen" for a couple of weeks every year. Phone Co. vs. Cable Co. is 24/7/365/6. -S-

21 Jerk  Sun, Jun 13, 2010 5:28:36pm

That iPhone app on their website looks great. Streaming 3G will definitely be the future in this stuff.

I have heard that some people just pay the extra per month to have an additional set top box only for use with their Slingbox, which is actually not a bad idea at all. It wouldn't disturb the main TV.

Also, I agree that TiVO continues to be a joke. As soon as I first saw that there was an app by Roxio just to convert your recordings, I knew it was something to stay away from.

22 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 13, 2010 5:31:31pm

re: #21 Jerk

That iPhone app on their website looks great. Streaming 3G will definitely be the future in this stuff.

I have heard that some people just pay the extra per month to have an additional set top box only for use with their Slingbox, which is actually not a bad idea at all. It wouldn't disturb the main TV.

Also, I agree that TiVO continues to be a joke. As soon as I first saw that there was an app by Roxio just to convert your recordings, I knew it was something to stay away from.

I've had mixed results with the iPhone Live TV app with my iPhone 3G. I suspect it needs a 3GS or better to work well -- the 3G's 802.11g wireless struggles to keep up.

I haven't configured my router to allow 3G access yet -- I'll experiment with it one of these days.

23 OIFVet  Sun, Jun 13, 2010 5:46:43pm

re: #12 MagnaniomousCoward

Thanks for the review. I've been experimenting with MythTV and Freevo on a Linux computer lately, and been thinking of getting a TV card for terrestrial digital broadcasting, or just getting a normal set-top box and feeding the video signal into my old analog TV card in the computer.

If you're going to go that route, check out these:

[Link: www.silicondust.com...]

Rumor has it, they work wonderfully well with MythTV. I have two pc3000 HD capture cards, and they work ok, but the freedom of having the TV tuner itself away from the computer would be wonderful.

24 OIFVet  Sun, Jun 13, 2010 5:49:02pm

re: #8 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Actually, I did research one time, and that slot on the front is for some kinda card, not a Mini-CD. It's purpose and origin, unknown.

Probably a CableCard or similar authorization system. Satellite TV boxes have these "smart cards" to do package management. There was a push a few years ago (that has mostly died a quiet death) for CableCard ports in PC's so you can have native cable TV in your PC. Hollywood seems to have killed that, though, with their restrictive DRM demands.

25 Achilles Tang  Sun, Jun 13, 2010 5:54:50pm

Excuse my ignorance, but what is this that my HD box I get from the cable company doesn't do, and if I'm at home why do I care about watching TV on my PC?

On the other hand, I do also have a Slingbox that I can control my home TV with, from anywhere, and connect to my TV anywhere if I so choose. I use it mainly to avoid having to pay for separate cable at my other place, but a hotel to pick up the show I recorded at home earlier works too.

26 Jerk  Sun, Jun 13, 2010 6:30:40pm

re: #25 Naso Tang

I guess this really depends on your workflow. If your TV is in another room, and you want to tape/record something while you are working on a document, you can tap into it. I have a newer cable box through Comcast, and while they offer recordings through it, they still don't seem to have a way to take them off to put them onto other devices that I own. Until they come up with something sensible (I wouldn't count on it), this is it.

27 OIFVet  Sun, Jun 13, 2010 8:52:22pm

re: #25 Naso Tang

For those of us who have decided that $70 for channels we don't watch is just not useful, the over-the-air HD in most cities (I live ~60 miles from the digital stations in Denver, CO) suffices for network television.

The remainder is made up through hulu, or individual channel's streaming over the Internet.

The nice point of alternative solutions is that you can record the content, and watch it ANYWHERE, restriction free, in the original quality (which any of the pay-tv-providers reduces greatly (I used to work for one, I've seen first-hand what they do)). Sling gets close, and is a cool product, but you still suffer the downgrade in quality (even for "HD" channels, they really aren't true HD).

The average consumer won't care, and will be happy to shell out the $70 for the package and the $5 or $10 for the HD and the $5 for the "rental" of the set top box. I am not the average consumer.

28 MagnaniomousCoward  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 4:03:36am

re: #23 OIFVet

Thanks for the tip. I'll see if there's something similar available where I live.

29 ExCamelJockey  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 6:50:12am

If you could record via a digital output like HDMI I'd buy this product in a heartbeat. As it is, Tivo, Moxy and my cable company's DVR are pretty much my only options.

30 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:03:36pm

re: #27 OIFVet

For those of us who have decided that $70 for channels we don't watch is just not useful, the over-the-air HD in most cities (I live ~60 miles from the digital stations in Denver, CO) suffices for network television.

The remainder is made up through hulu, or individual channel's streaming over the Internet.

The nice point of alternative solutions is that you can record the content, and watch it ANYWHERE, restriction free, in the original quality (which any of the pay-tv-providers reduces greatly (I used to work for one, I've seen first-hand what they do)). Sling gets close, and is a cool product, but you still suffer the downgrade in quality (even for "HD" channels, they really aren't true HD).

The average consumer won't care, and will be happy to shell out the $70 for the package and the $5 or $10 for the HD and the $5 for the "rental" of the set top box. I am not the average consumer.

I have a broadcast HD receiver for my Mac too -- the Miglia TV/Mini HD. But I moved last year and there's no reception in my new location, even with an antenna that I was using previously in my old place. I might be able to get it again if I installed an outdoor antenna, but at that point the expense and hassle isn't really worth it.

Channel selection was very limited with over the air HD too. But when it worked it was great.


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