Chris Matthews, ‘Rise of the New Right’

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This video playlist from MSNBC contains the complete Chris Matthews feature, “Rise of the New Right.” You can jump to any section by clicking the “Playlist” button that appears at the lower right of the player when you move your mouse over it.

Regular LGF readers will notice that almost everything in this show has been previously covered here, but Matthews does a creditable job of documenting the resurgence of an unhinged far right element, spearheaded by groups like the John Birch Society with roots in paleo-conservatism, conspiracy theories, and old-style antisemitism.

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1 windsagio  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:09:28pm

In B4 “But the left is just as bad, look at XXXXX!”

2 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:10:41pm

“Father Coughlin was a lefty! That proves Matthews is a commie dupe!!!one”

3 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:10:54pm

re: #1 windsagio

In B4 “But the left is just as bad, look at XXX!”

Oh yeah! Look at teh Move On, Code Pink and Soros!

/Eleventy!

4 windsagio  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:11:42pm

re: #2 Charles

So was hitler!

5 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:14:25pm

Kind of a shame that Matthews was the one who did this. He’s not going to reach the moderate conservatives that really need to hear the message.

6 windsagio  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:15:06pm

re: #5 JasonA

I think a fair number of them are tho’,

7 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:15:40pm

Matthews has a worthy documentary with this one. It does lean left, but its quite serviceable.

8 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:16:14pm

MSNBC has some very nice tools for embedding video. Kudos to them for making this whole show available online.

9 rwdflynavy  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:16:25pm

re: #7 Dark_Falcon

Matthews has a worthy documentary with this one. It does lean left, but its quite serviceable.

It is a good run down of a story that needs to be told.

10 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:17:43pm

Excellent documentary and chronology of events. I think Chris Matthews has been reading Little Green Footballs. We’ve covered most of what I’ve seen so far — almost in exact sequence.

11 albusteve  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:19:24pm

doozie…
I’ts gonna be a doozie when it all goes down in ‘12

12 windsagio  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:19:38pm

re: #8 Charles

They seem to be pretty savvy about these things, its a nice touch.

13 KingKenrod  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:20:05pm

re: #10 Gus 802

Excellent documentary and chronology of events. I think Chris Matthews has been reading Little Green Footballs. We’ve covered most of what I’ve seen so far — almost in exact sequence.

I was thinking the same thing myself.

14 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:20:05pm

re: #9 rwdflynavy

It is a good run down of a story that needs to be told.

Quite Concur.

15 windsagio  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:20:06pm

re: #11 albusteve

It’ll be one hell of a trip!

(I reread fear and loathing recently >>)

16 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:20:44pm

I was really interested in the Father Coughlin part. An incredible display of us repeating our past.

17 Virginia Plain  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:21:24pm

The militia members who conspired to kill LEOs are just like Al-Qaida, making their recruitment videos.

18 pharmmajor  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:24:36pm

The “new right” are the old retards in different packaging.

19 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:24:40pm

Who’s the musician who wrote the scary ominous music?

20 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:27:32pm

re: #19 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Who’s the musician who wrote the scary ominous music?

Got it! Sounds like John Carpenter (Escape From New York) wrote the score for this piece.

21 dog philosopher  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:34:00pm

speaking of wingnut theories, i was told that obama’s management of federal finances will soon lead to 30% of federal budget obligations being owed in debt service every year for the foreseeable future

are any credible analysts predicting that?

22 brookly red  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:35:54pm

re: #11 albusteve

doozie…
I’ts gonna be a doozie when it all goes down in ‘12

my head scratching moment is that folks a. don’t like it and b. ridicule it but c. disregard the numbers.

23 brookly red  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:39:29pm

re: #21 engineer dog

speaking of wingnut theories, i was told that obama’s management of federal finances will soon lead to 30% of federal budget obligations being owed in debt service every year for the foreseeable future

are any credible analysts predicting that?

no one that you would consider credible…

but if you trust your self do the math on a 13 trillion debt and lets see what you come up with?

24 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:40:37pm

Skipped over to Stewart Rhodes of Oathkeepers. What a wast of gray matter that is. He brought up the Hessians as an example for what amounts to his paranoia. Worthy of high ridicule.

25 Randall Gross  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:42:03pm

I thought he went pretty light on them all, there’s a lot more out there that he only lightly touched upon. It’s a documentary that will be paid heed by the left, but it’s not effective enough to wake up what moderates are left in the GOP I don’t think.

26 windsagio  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:46:55pm

re: #22 brookly red

The joy of the situation is that right now everyone can project what they want to see.

27 brookly red  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:47:16pm

Change it had to come
We knew it all along
We were liberated from the fall that’s all
But the world looks just the same
And history ain’t changed
‘Cause the banners, they all flown in the last war

28 dog philosopher  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:48:59pm

re: #23 brookly red

no one that you would consider credible…

but if you trust your self do the math on a 13 trillion debt and lets see what you come up with?

my feeling is the administration would have run the numbers beforehand and arranged the interest payments in such a way that ss, medicare, and military expenditures would not be seriously impacted, since this would lead to serious chaos, deep depression, and, additionally, destroy the credibility of the democratic party forever

i also have to imagine that the united states government would have some leverage to negotiate terms

29 brookly red  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:50:09pm

re: #26 windsagio

The joy of the situation is that right now everyone can project what they want to see.

you do have as point, I have some friends that swear that this year the Mets will win the series… and then I got other friends that look at the facts.

30 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:50:29pm

Check out this Father Coughlin memorial site

fathercoughlin.com

31 brookly red  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:55:20pm

re: #30 Stanley Sea

Check out this Father Coughlin memorial site

[Link: www.fathercoughlin.com…]

this is the second time tonight I agree with you…

/hey everybody Stanley is a neo con!

32 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:55:29pm

re: #30 Stanley Sea

Check out this Father Coughlin memorial site

[Link: www.fathercoughlin.com…]

I guess some people just can’t let sleeping dogs lie. The owner of the website must feel a need to vindicate the cranks of old.

33 windsagio  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:55:31pm

re: #30 Stanley Sea

Trying to figure out if that’s a joke site or not >>

34 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:56:19pm

In the new Internet Age, even Father Coughlin will have fanboyz.

35 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:57:22pm

re: #33 windsagio

Trying to figure out if that’s a joke site or not >>

Oh no, you can download the Fed papers! Paulian site most likely. I like how Glenn Beck scrolled across that one area where the arrow kept flashing!

36 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:57:25pm

What was that “person” in the pink dress? She looked like she needed a better makeup artist or some serious meds.

37 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:57:53pm

re: #31 brookly red

nevah

38 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:58:59pm

re: #37 Stanley Sea

nevah

Evah?

39 brookly red  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 5:59:34pm

re: #35 Stanley Sea

Oh no, you can download the Fed papers! Paulian site most likely. I like how Glenn Beck scrolled across that one area where the arrow kept flashing!

you mean the Federalist Papers… no I don’t suggest you do that… it would hurt you badly.

40 brookly red  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:01:02pm

re: #37 Stanley Sea

nevah

no I am agreeing with Stanley more and more each day… it is obvious he is really a neo-con.

41 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:01:41pm

re: #39 brookly red

you mean the Federalist Papers… no I don’t suggest you do that… it would hurt you badly.

No, it’s some .pdf about the evil Fed.

42 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:02:19pm

re: #40 brookly red

no I am agreeing with Stanley more and more each day… it is obvious he is really a neo-con.

Heh.

43 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:02:37pm

re: #35 Stanley Sea

Oh no, you can download the Fed papers! Paulian site most likely. I like how Glenn Beck scrolled across that one area where the arrow kept flashing!

Glenn Beck is attracted to flashing lights for some reason. They must trigger some automatic response in his malfunctioning brain.

44 Political Atheist  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:02:41pm

Embed tools?
I see a right click makes it easy to get the embed code. Unlike youtube. But what other tools are helpful?

45 brookly red  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:02:51pm

re: #41 Stanley Sea

No, it’s some .pdf about the evil Fed.

yup, neo con… check it out!

46 brookly red  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:03:25pm

re: #42 JasonA

Heh.

just having fun :)

47 Just never mind.  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:06:04pm

re: #40 brookly red

no I am agreeing with Stanley more and more each day… it is obvious he is really a neo-con.

Pssst, Stanley’s a she…

48 brookly red  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:07:42pm

re: #47 Floral Giraffe

Pssst, Stanley’s a she…

Oh my bad…

49 Irenicum  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:08:49pm

Yay. Glad to see you featuring this Charles.

50 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:09:31pm

re: #44 Rightwingconspirator

Embed tools?
I see a right click makes it easy to get the embed code. Unlike youtube. But what other tools are helpful?

If you click the link in my post, the MSNBC page for the show has more embedding tools. One nice feature - you can mark a section of a clip that you’re interested in, and embed the marked section instead of the whole thing.

51 Irenicum  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:12:24pm

Chris definitely leans liberal, but he’s no moonbat or wingnut. He can be a bit of a bulldog at times, but I actually like that about him. I think the strongest feature of this documentary is the historical part.

52 Political Atheist  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:13:42pm

re: #50 Charles
Thanks for the tip.
Sure makes MSNBC the first stop to page a news story that has video. I’ll work with that, get used to the features.

53 Irenicum  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:16:27pm

OT/ Graeme McDowell from Northern Ireland just won the US Open.

54 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:16:42pm

re: #51 Irenicum

Chris definitely leans liberal, but he’s no moonbat or wingnut. He can be a bit of a bulldog at times, but I actually like that about him. I think the strongest feature of this documentary is the historical part.

Would be nice to see Frontline give this a shot.

55 Irenicum  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:18:10pm

re: #54 Gus 802

Agreed. I’m a huge fan of Frontline.

56 brookly red  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:20:43pm

Oh look, AQ is at it again…

news.yahoo.com

57 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:21:02pm

re: #55 Irenicum

Agreed. I’m a huge fan of Frontline.

Yes, definitely for content. Which I say because on style I really like the narrator, Will Lyman.

58 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:23:27pm

re: #53 Irenicum

OT/ Graeme McDowell from Northern Ireland just won the US Open.

1st Euro in 40 years! Excellent!

59 Irenicum  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:23:30pm

re: #57 Gus 802

He does have a classic documentary voice, doesn’t he?

60 Irenicum  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:23:55pm

re: #58 Stanley Sea

And 1st ever from Northern Ireland!

61 Irenicum  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:24:52pm

re: #59 Irenicum

I’m geeked because my grandmother’s ancestors were from N.I.

62 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:25:48pm

re: #59 Irenicum

He does have a classic documentary voice, doesn’t he?

Serlingesque too. Good lower mid-tone. Doesn’t have the cliche X’er voice we hear on the cable channels.

63 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:26:08pm

re: #61 Irenicum

I’m geeked because my grandmother’s ancestors were from N.I.

Cool. Some of mine are, too.

64 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:26:52pm

Good Night to my fellow Lizards

65 Irenicum  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:27:20pm

re: #63 Dark_Falcon

Of course, I am talking about 250 years ago. They emigrated in the mid 1700’s to America.

66 Political Atheist  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:27:23pm

re: #58 Stanley Sea
Hi
If you have chosen a picture for your print, let me know. I’ll be sending files to my lab tomorrow or Tuesday.

67 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:32:03pm

re: #66 Rightwingconspirator

Hey RWC! Did you post new ones today? Not that that’s needed, but I didn’t want to miss out on something new!

You are so kind to do this, my favorite (and it was hard, I looked again and again last nite) is “The famous pendulum” at Griffith Park.

Reine emailed me the guy’s contact info - should I contact him w/my address etc.? My nic is blue if it’s just easier for us to go direct.

Again, THANKS so much, I am very lucky!

68 prairiefire  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:33:50pm

re: #66 Rightwingconspirator

That was a nice offer from you and D_L. I thought her photos were very good. I favorited your suggestions for using my point and shoot camera for when I can spend a bit more time on it.
There’s an instruction book around here somewhere…

69 Political Atheist  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:35:21pm

re: #67 Stanley Sea

I did post a couple shots today

All about perception and how the camera shows the inner complexity of motion.

70 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:35:22pm

re: #65 Irenicum

Of course, I am talking about 250 years ago. They emigrated in the mid 1700’s to America.

Me too. Mine were the ancestors of my father’s mother, and they were here before the Revolution. That’s documented, too, thanks to one of my cousins.

71 SpaceJesus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:35:32pm

the animal motto for these people shouldn’t be a coiled snake, it should be a lawnchair or an obese corgi dog

72 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:36:34pm

re: #71 SpaceJesus

the animal motto for these people shouldn’t be a coiled snake, it should be a lawnchair or an obese corgi dog

Image: beerhelmetcustomer.jpg

73 Political Atheist  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:37:04pm

re: #68 prairiefire

I have better luck with the online instructions. At least I can read the text that way! My instructions from Canon make my insurance policy fine print look like a headline. :)

74 SpaceJesus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:37:11pm

*mascot

75 brookly red  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:37:18pm

re: #71 SpaceJesus

the animal motto for these people shouldn’t be a coiled snake, it should be a lawnchair or an obese corgi dog

seeee yoooou in September November…

76 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:37:59pm

re: #69 Rightwingconspirator

I did post a couple shots today

All about perception and how the camera shows the inner complexity of motion.

I love those too! Also the one you posted the other day of the waterfall, could be on a print in the store, etc. It was beautiful.

I like the pendulum because of it’s color and abstractness. Think that’s a good choice? I’ll take your advice!

77 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:38:06pm

Seems pretty fair so far. Maybe a little too dramatic but overall not bad.

78 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:38:24pm

re: #75 brookly red

seee yooou in September November…

The GOP will make gains. Not the Teabaggers.

79 SpaceJesus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:38:27pm

re: #75 brookly red

seee yooou in September November…


I will be lol’ing and eating turkey when the gop takes back neither house

80 brookly red  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:39:19pm

re: #78 Gus 802

The GOP will make gains. Not the Teabaggers.

well thank you for seeing the difference

81 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:39:58pm

re: #79 SpaceJesus

I will be lol’ing and eating turkey when the gop takes back neither house

The way they are being fact checked these days (thank your father) who knows what will be said then checked before November.

82 Lidane  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:40:06pm

re: #71 SpaceJesus

the animal motto for these people shouldn’t be a coiled snake, it should be a lawnchair or an obese corgi dog

Hey! Corgis are awesome. If we’re going to assign a dog breed to these people, it should be a Chihuahua — annoying, yapping little things that are utterly useless and which just get underfoot. =P

83 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:40:18pm

re: #78 Gus 802

The GOP will make gains. Not the Teabaggers.

I try to be fair and balanced from time to time.

84 brookly red  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:40:34pm

re: #79 SpaceJesus

I will be lol’ing and eating turkey when the gop takes back neither house

well never was there a better case of your are what you eat… :)

85 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:41:35pm

re: #79 SpaceJesus

I will be lol’ing and eating turkey when the gop takes back neither house

And I’ll snick and call you a turkey when they take the House. They won’t get the Senate, though. Too many seats would need to fall.

86 Political Atheist  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:42:06pm

re: #67 Stanley Sea

Once I know which you want I’ll prep the file for 8x10 and tell my contact there to expect your call. It’s all arranged. And you earned it, you bought a cookbook yesterday. Thanks for that.

The Griffith pendulum is a good choice, it was a tough shot to get hand held. I liked the rich warm tone. Not hardly photoshopped at all. No fancy tricks, just natural from the camera.

87 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:42:24pm

re: #74 SpaceJesus

*mascot

Wait! I found the perfect mascot.

Image: Crocoduck.jpg

88 brookly red  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:43:01pm

re: #85 Dark_Falcon

And I’ll snick and call you a turkey when they take the House. They won’t get the Senate, though. Too many seats would need to fall.

one house is enough to stop the abuse of one party rule.

89 Political Atheist  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:43:10pm

re: #81 Stanley Sea

Okay you got it! I’ll be back off to chase a nice sunset. See ya all later!

90 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:44:18pm

re: #86 Rightwingconspirator

Once I know which you want I’ll prep the file for 8x10 and tell my contact there to expect your call. It’s all arranged. And you earned it, you bought a cookbook yesterday. Thanks for that.

The Griffith pendulum is a good choice, it was a tough shot to get hand held. I liked the rich warm tone. Not hardly photoshopped at all. No fancy tricks, just natural from the camera.

I love it! And it also represents SoCal, which I would like to display. So kind! :)

91 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:45:59pm

re: #88 brookly red

one house is enough to stop the abuse of one party rule.

Indeed. Though we should be careful using the term abuse, given that the GOP had one-party rule from 2003-2007.

92 Political Atheist  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:46:05pm

re: #90 Stanley Sea

My pleasure.

93 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:46:16pm

Chris Matthews loved the left before he voted for Dubya and before the Obama tingle stopped.

94 SpaceJesus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:47:04pm

re: #82 Lidane

Hey! Corgis are awesome. If we’re going to assign a dog breed to these people, it should be a Chihuahua — annoying, yapping little things that are utterly useless and which just get underfoot. =P

the only corgi i’ve ever met was obese, old, sedentary, mean, loud, and pooped itself all the time.

95 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:48:27pm

Uh oh! Outrage!

Presidential Proclamation—Father’s Day

SNIP

Nurturing families come in many forms, and children may be raised by a father and mother, a single father, two fathers, a step father, a grandfather, or caring guardian. We owe a special debt of gratitude for those parents serving in the United States Armed Forces and their families, whose sacrifices protect the lives and liberties of all American children. For the character they build, the doors they open, and the love they provide over our lifetimes, all our fathers deserve our unending appreciation and admiration.

SNIP

96 SpaceJesus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:48:33pm

re: #94 SpaceJesus

the only corgi i’ve ever met was obese, old, sedentary, mean, loud, and pooped itself all the time.

it also didn’t like black people

97 brookly red  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:48:52pm

re: #91 Dark_Falcon

Indeed. Though we should be careful using the term abuse, given that the GOP had one-party rule from 2003-2007.

and that too had some abuse…

98 freetoken  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:53:30pm

re: #95 Gus 802

Little Timmy has two fathers?

This certainly will be worthy of some outrage… just wait for it.

99 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:55:14pm
In its statements since his election, al-Qaida has taken pains to show the continuity between Obama’s foreign policy and that of his predecessor.
jpost.com


Fascinating

100 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:55:14pm

re: #98 freetoken

Little Timmy has two fathers?

This certainly will be worthy of some outrage… just wait for it.

It’ll hit some of the blogs tomorrow. The real outrage will come from groups like the Family Research Council — if it hasn’t already.

101 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 6:58:27pm

re: #100 Gus 802

It’ll hit some of the blogs tomorrow. The real outrage will come from groups like the Family Research Council — if it hasn’t already.

It’s a smart move by Obama, IMO. It’s like one of us using a post to Stalkers. Like the Stalkers, the so-cons are sure to overreact, at which point Obama looks sane and normal while they look crazy. And if they don’t react badly, then it still doesn’t hurt him. Win or draw.

102 Just never mind.  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:01:47pm

re: #101 Dark_Falcon

Excellent comparison!

103 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:02:25pm

I’m getting ready to try my first attempt at The Texas Crutch tonight. Should be interesting.

104 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:02:48pm

re: #101 Dark_Falcon

It’s a smart move by Obama, IMO. It’s like one of us using a post to goad the Stalkers. Like the Stalkers, the so-cons are sure to overreact, at which point Obama looks sane and normal while they look crazy. And if they don’t react badly, then it still doesn’t hurt him. Win or draw.

PIMF

105 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:03:46pm

re: #101 Dark_Falcon

It’s a smart move by Obama, IMO. It’s like one of us using a post to Stalkers. Like the Stalkers, the so-cons are sure to overreact, at which point Obama looks sane and normal while they look crazy. And if they don’t react badly, then it still doesn’t hurt him. Win or draw.

meep meep

106 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:03:54pm

re: #101 Dark_Falcon

It’s a smart move by Obama, IMO. It’s like one of us using a post to Stalkers. Like the Stalkers, the so-cons are sure to overreact, at which point Obama looks sane and normal while they look crazy. And if they don’t react badly, then it still doesn’t hurt him. Win or draw.

Correct. Technically, two fathers can also mean two brothers with one being the father with his brother, etc. I wonder if he’ll be chided for not mentioning “two mothers” — no wait, that’s already started. There again on the technicality, fathers day is for fathers and not mothers so it would be an absurd point.

107 Just never mind.  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:03:58pm

re: #103 Killgore Trout

I’m getting ready to try my first attempt at The Texas Crutch tonight. Should be interesting.

As long as it’s not frog ribs…

108 PT Barnum  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:04:28pm

The SSM issue is raging hard in Iowa, although the candidate who made it an issue in the primary got beat out by a former governer who explicitly avoided making it a major issue.

109 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:05:15pm

re: #103 Killgore Trout

I’m getting ready to try my first attempt at The Texas Crutch tonight. Should be interesting.

For a second there I read “Texas Church.” Then I thought “they have a Texas church in Portland.” Then it hit me, I was seeing double.

D’oh!

110 PT Barnum  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:06:07pm

re: #109 Gus 802

For a second there I read “Texas Church.” Then I thought “they have a Texas church in Portland.” Then it hit me, I was seeing double.

D’oh!

The Texas Church is BBQ

111 PT Barnum  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:06:52pm

re: #109 Gus 802

For a second there I read “Texas Church.” Then I thought “they have a Texas church in Portland.” Then it hit me, I was seeing double.

D’oh!

They also have a rose in Spanish Harlem..but that’s neither here nor there.

112 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:07:35pm

re: #111 PT Barnum

They also have a rose in Spanish Harlem..but that’s neither here nor there.

There’s a yellow rose in Texas. Hmmm. /

113 PT Barnum  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:09:01pm

re: #112 Gus 802

There’s a yellow rose in Texas. Hmmm. /

If anybody talks about it as there is a kind of hush all over the world

114 avanti  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:09:05pm

re: #100 Gus 802

It’ll hit some of the blogs tomorrow. The real outrage will come from groups like the Family Research Council — if it hasn’t already.

Count on it, just look at the outrage over Home Depot’s being a vendor at a gay event. They feature a picture of some kids with a “I love my two dads” sign, scandalous.

Gay Home Depot.

115 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:10:14pm

re: #105 Stanley Sea

meep meep

Loves it. The Roadrunner encapsulates Obama and Charles perfectly. In both cases the off-kilter enemy thinks they’ve set the perfect trap, only to once again find themselves off the cliff when their rocket-powered roller skates run out of thrust.

116 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:10:44pm

re: #114 avanti

The ad on that page is the Liberty University School of Law. Oh my, what are we in for.

117 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:10:48pm

re: #114 avanti

Count on it, just look at the outrage over Home Depot’s being a vendor at a gay event. They feature a picture of some kids with a “I love my two dads” sign, scandalous.

Gay Home Depot.

ZOMG! What about Bed Bath & Beyond?

118 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:11:04pm

re: #112 Gus 802

There’s a yellow rose in Texas. Hmmm. /


That song is actually about a mixed-race madam.

119 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:11:11pm

re: #114 avanti

Count on it, just look at the outrage over Home Depot’s being a vendor at a gay event. They feature a picture of some kids with a “I love my two dads” sign, scandalous.

Gay Home Depot.

Ah jeez:

To this end, Home Depot is basically encouraging the attendance of children at events which openly expose them to transvestites, cross-dressers, and homosexual activists.

120 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:13:22pm

re: #115 Dark_Falcon

Loves it. The Roadrunner encapsulates Obama and Charles perfectly. In both cases the off-kilter enemy thinks they’ve set the perfect trap, only to once again find themselves off the cliff when their rocket-powered roller skates run out of thrust.

I am so glad you got it! I typed it going, hmmm.

121 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:13:36pm

Fires in Arizona and Chicago.

Ceiling Kitteh haitz Arizona n Chicago!

122 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:13:42pm

re: #118 Dark_Falcon

That song is actually about a mixed-race madam.

Right. Long tradition of that in Texas. Texas is a melting pot just like most of the nation. In fact, it’s actually more so than other states from a historical perspective.

123 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:14:33pm

re: #122 Gus 802

I meant the mixed-race aspect not that madam part.

124 Bear  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:14:55pm

re: #118 Dark_Falcon

true. But I like it.

125 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:17:46pm

Emily West was not a madam. She was an indentured servant who was captured by Santa Anna, and forced to serve as his mistress.

She was, however, Mulatto, and supposedly pretty. (Haven’t seen a picture.)

126 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:20:48pm

re: #121 Alouette

Fires in Arizona and Chicago.

Ceiling Kitteh haitz Arizona n Chicago!

That’s pretty bad for Chicago. The Red Line is vital to getting commuters into the Loop and is the CTA’s vital north-south artery. If it cannot be reopened by morning, its gonna cause major problems.

127 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:21:14pm

re: #125 EmmmieG

Emily West was not a madam. She was an indentured servant who was captured by Santa Anna, and forced to serve as his mistress.

She was, however, Mulatto, and supposedly pretty. (Haven’t seen a picture.)

Cool, I never knew that.

128 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:24:39pm

re: #125 EmmmieG

Emily West was not a madam. She was an indentured servant who was captured by Santa Anna, and forced to serve as his mistress.

She was, however, Mulatto, and supposedly pretty. (Haven’t seen a picture.)

So cool, you made me look it up. Wiki, but:

According to the legend, a woman named Emily D. West — a mulatto, and hence, the song’s reference to her being “yellow” — who was seized by Mexican forces during the looting of Galveston seduced General Antonio López de Santa Anna, President of Mexico and commander of the Mexican forces. The legend credits her supposed seduction with lowering the guard of the Mexican army and facilitating the Texan victory in the Battle of San Jacinto waged in 1836 near present-day Houston. Santa Anna’s opponent was General Sam Houston, who won the battle literally in minutes, and with almost no casualties.

en.wikipedia.org

Wow. I love learning this stuff.

129 Racer X  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:25:27pm

I see 2 things happening right now in politics:

1. The right wing is going batshit insane, and people are starting to notice.

2. People are also starting to notice that Obama and his administration are not quite what they hoped for.

130 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:25:39pm

re: #128 Stanley Sea

There’s more of course, I just picked out one part.

131 zora  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:28:42pm

re: #103 Killgore Trout

can’t wait to hear how it turns out.

132 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:30:44pm

re: #129 Racer X

I see 2 things happening right now in politics:

1. The right wing is going batshit insane, and people are starting to notice.

2. People are also starting to notice that Obama and his administration are not quite what they hoped for.

So…your point is…people are unhappy with the left and the right both? Or just politicians for making noise instead of doing something helpful?

That would be something new….or not.

133 prairiefire  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:31:50pm

re: #129 Racer X

Mr Pragmatic, please take a bow.

134 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:34:41pm

re: #129 Racer X

I see 2 things happening right now in politics:

1. The right wing is going batshit insane, and people are starting to notice.

2. People are also starting to notice that Obama and his administration are not quite what they hoped for.

Not quite what I hoped for vs. batshit insane.

hmmmmm

135 Bear  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:34:41pm

I see that tomorrow the length of the day (Sun up to Sun down) will be the same as for today. Then each day will be shorter. Winter is on its way-sob-sob.

136 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:36:45pm

re: #129 Racer X

I see 2 things happening right now in politics:

1. The right wing is going batshit insane, and people are starting to notice.

2. People are also starting to notice that Obama and his administration are not quite what they hoped for.

Doesn’t this happen with every single president forever? The true believers want one of their own who matches their ideology, the true believes never seem to be educated about political realities, they’re always disappointed, the president doesn’t govern from the fringe, they go :( FROWN and life goes on.

137 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:37:11pm

re: #135 Bear

I see that tomorrow the length of the day (Sun up to Sun down) will be the same as for today. Then each day will be shorter. Winter is on its way-sob-sob.

Summer Solstice


LONDON — New Agers and neo-pagans descended on Stonehenge to celebrate the summer solstice, each hoping to catch a glimpse of the sun as it rises above the ancient stone circle early Monday morning.

The annual all-night party typically draws thousands of alternative-minded revelers to the prehistoric monument on Salisbury Plain as they wait for dawn at the Heel Stone, a pockmarked pillar just outside the circle proper which aligns with the rising sun.

Monday’s sunrise, marking the longest day of the year north of the equator, is scheduled to occur over the circle at 4:52 a.m. local time (0352GMT.)

138 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:37:45pm

re: #135 Bear

I see that tomorrow the length of the day (Sun up to Sun down) will be the same as for today. Then each day will be shorter. Winter is on its way-sob-sob.

Better fill up the oil tank now and switch over to snow tires to get a head start.

/

139 prairiefire  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:38:29pm

re: #137 Stanley Sea

I think my ma usually has a ceremony with her crones group. I wish I was kidding.

140 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:38:41pm

re: #129 Racer X

I see 2 things happening right now in politics:

1. The right wing is going batshit insane, and people are starting to notice.

2. People are also starting to notice that Obama and his administration are not quite what they hoped for.

And how is that different from how it ends up with every President?
Seems to me there’s a pendulum that’s always swinging …

141 freetoken  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:39:10pm

re: #135 Bear

Winter is on its way-sob-sob.


And that means… Christmas is on it’s way too!

Is it too early for the music?

142 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:39:12pm

re: #135 Bear

I see that tomorrow the length of the day (Sun up to Sun down) will be the same as for today. Then each day will be shorter. Winter is on its way-sob-sob.


Chill.

143 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:39:42pm

re: #137 Stanley Sea

My daughter was at Stonehenge today.
I can’t wait til she gets home with her photos.

144 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:39:45pm

re: #136 WindUpBird

Doesn’t this happen with every single president forever? The true believers want one of their own who matches their ideology, the true believes never seem to be educated about political realities, they’re always disappointed, the president doesn’t govern from the fringe, they go :( FROWN and life goes on.

Yep. Shampoo, rinse, repeat. Only in this case you switch shampoos between Democrat and Republican. Can’t use the Third Party shampoo because it’s full of crazy additives.

/

145 Jeff In Ohio  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:39:57pm

re: #94 SpaceJesus

the only corgi i’ve ever met was obese, old, sedentary, mean, loud, and pooped itself all the time.

Space Jesus said pooped.

Poo.

Heh.

Image: Queen-Elizabeth-and-Corgi-4075.jpg

146 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:39:58pm

re: #136 WindUpBird

Doesn’t this happen with every single president forever?

Not if you listen to the disciples of Saint Reagan.

147 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:40:11pm

re: #141 freetoken

And that means… Christmas is on it’s way too!

Is it too early for the music?

Superbowl!

148 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:40:48pm

re: #107 Floral Giraffe

As long as it’s not frog ribs…

My poor little tad poles have the silliest little legs attached to their butts. I thought they’d be useless but the do use them to scoot along the bottom. Very freaky.

149 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:41:15pm

re: #147 Gus 802

Superbowl!

Next Father’s Day!

150 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:41:28pm

re: #139 prairiefire

I think my ma usually has a ceremony with her crones group. I wish I was kidding.

Crones, yes! I know them. I do work for a super super successful pagan internet business. Yes. I have a lot to learn from them.

151 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:41:41pm

re: #148 Killgore Trout

My poor little tad poles have the silliest little legs attached to their butts. I thought they’d be useless but the do use them to scoot along the bottom. Very freaky.

Are they in a pond, bowl, ???

152 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:41:50pm

re: #149 JasonA

Next Father’s Day!

Plan ahead! The early bird gets the worm.

/

153 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:42:39pm

re: #143 reine.de.tout

My daughter was at Stonehenge today.
I can’t wait til she gets home with her photos.

NO WAY! A dream trip for me.

WOW. I want to see the photos too, and hear all about it. WOW

154 Just never mind.  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:42:43pm

re: #148 Killgore Trout

My poor little tad poles have the silliest little legs attached to their butts. I thought they’d be useless but the do use them to scoot along the bottom. Very freaky.

LOL!
Happy Dad Day, to the Tad Dad!
They’ll be hopping around, in no time!

155 Nimed  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:43:08pm

re: #136 WindUpBird

Doesn’t this happen with every single president forever? The true believers want one of their own who matches their ideology, the true believes never seem to be educated about political realities, they’re always disappointed, the president doesn’t govern from the fringe, they go :( FROWN and life goes on.

I beg to differ. Reagan was everything we could have hoped for in a President, and more.
/

156 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:43:18pm

Evening Honcos.

157 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:43:30pm

re: #148 Killgore Trout

My poor little tad poles have the silliest little legs attached to their butts. I thought they’d be useless but the do use them to scoot along the bottom. Very freaky.

Soon you’ll have a new group of frogs. What kind of frogs are these going to be?

158 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:43:46pm

re: #149 JasonA

Next Father’s Day!

Stop it!

159 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:44:28pm

re: #158 Stanley Sea

Stop it!

Yes ma’am.

160 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:45:12pm

re: #140 reine.de.tout

And how is that different from how it ends up with every President?
Seems to me there’s a pendulum that’s always swinging …

True. I see nothing terribly unusual with Obama but I’m a little more concerned with what the right is up to these days. The lefty base was pretty nutty under Bush but the crazy seems to be going higher up the food chain with Republicans today. The party leaders are buying into the crazy. I suspect the BP Shakedown talking point is making the Republican leadership very nervous. It’s the kind of thing that could have serious political repercussions and I’m not sure if they can stop it.

161 Nimed  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:45:25pm

re: #146 JasonA

Not if you listen to the disciples of Saint Reagan.

Beaten to the punch. Again. Damn you Jason and your telepathic powers.

162 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:46:05pm

re: #161 Nimed

Beaten to the punch. Again. Damn you Jason and your telepathic powers.

Yes, it would be absurd to think that the idea was mine before it was yours. :P

163 prairiefire  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:46:19pm

re: #150 Stanley Sea

Well, I’m a Christian, so… When she started down this road, I told her I was thinking of the Bible verse about God holding her in his hand like the sparrow (paraphrasing). She said “That’s nice to think of dear, if it makes you happy.”
It’s all good.

164 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:46:42pm

re: #151 EmmmieG

Are they in a pond, bowl, ???

They’re in the pond but I set up a little protected frog area for them about 4 inches deep, two feet wide and four feet long.

165 Firstinla  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:47:03pm

re: #155 Nimed

I beg to differ: he was not. I voted for him and he was a disappointment. Guess it is a matter of perspective.

166 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:47:48pm

re: #157 Dark_Falcon

Soon you’ll have a new group of frogs. What kind of frogs are these going to be?

I think they’re going to be Pacific Tree Frogs

167 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:47:53pm

re: #160 Killgore Trout

True. I see nothing terribly unusual with Obama but I’m a little more concerned with what the right is up to these days. The lefty base was pretty nutty under Bush but the crazy seems to be going higher up the food chain with Republicans today. The party leaders are buying into the crazy. I suspect the BP Shakedown talking point is making the Republican leadership very nervous. It’s the kind of thing that could have serious political repercussions and I’m not sure if they can stop it.

Mitch McConnell came out against Barton’s comments today on Fox:

“I couldn’t disagree with Joe Barton more,” McConnell said in an appearance on Fox News Sunday…BP doesn’t need an apology, they need to apologize to us.”

Damage control.

168 Just never mind.  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:48:13pm

re: #166 Killgore Trout

I think they’re going to be Pacific Tree Frogs

Ribbit!
LOL!

169 Nimed  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:48:30pm

re: #140 reine.de.tout

And how is that different from how it ends up with every President?
Seems to me there’s a pendulum that’s always swinging …

The problem with the GOP is that there is actually a lot to criticize in Obama, but they almost never go there.

170 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:49:18pm

re: #168 Floral Giraffe

Ribbit!
LOL!

It’s not easy, being green…

Image: rebecca-richardson-tree-frogs.jpg

171 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:49:30pm

re: #164 Killgore Trout

They’re in the pond but I set up a little protected frog area for them about 4 inches deep, two feet wide and four feet long.

Such a Renaissance Man. Raising frogs while he plants vegetables and racism. :P

/

172 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:50:16pm

re: #171 JasonA

Such a Renaissance Man. Raising frogs while he plants vegetables and racism. :P

/

While thwarting crazy neighbors with pit bulls and circular saws.

/

173 Nimed  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:50:57pm

re: #162 JasonA

Yes, it would be absurd to think that the idea was mine before it was yours. :P

Oh, sorry, for not giving you enough credit. Damn your telepathic AND premonitory powers.

/of course I thought of it first

174 Just never mind.  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:51:32pm

re: #170 Gus 802

Hey, how’re you doing?
Haven’t “seen” you lately!

175 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:51:37pm

re: #153 Stanley Sea

NO WAY! A dream trip for me.

WOW. I want to see the photos too, and hear all about it. WOW

OK! I’ll send ‘em on. I hope she got some good ones.
She’s with a group from her school, about 30 of ‘em, one of her teachers works for an educational tour company during the summer - he and his wife get their trip free, and they just sort of chaperone the group. It just happened to work out that their Stonehenge day was today.

Dream trip indeed. I wish I was there with her.

176 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:52:10pm

re: #166 Killgore Trout

I think they’re going to be Pacific Tree Frogs

Cool. Hopefully you get a good assortment of colors out of them.

177 Just never mind.  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:52:36pm

re: #175 reine.de.tout

You could be the chaperone, next year…
Hint, hint!
*waves*

178 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:52:48pm

re: #174 Floral Giraffe

Hey, how’re you doing?
Haven’t “seen” you lately!

Hi FG. You haven’t seen me? I’ve been here. ;) I’m doing as best as I can now. A little more work coming in. Hope to see more. How are you doing?

179 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:52:48pm

re: #172 Gus 802

While thwarting crazy neighbors with pit bulls and circular saws.

/

Are the circular saws attached to the Pit Bulls? Then I’ll be impressed…

/

180 Renaissance_Man  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:52:51pm

re: #167 Gus 802

Damage control.

McConnell is fortunate that it was only Joe Barton that said it, and could thus be disagreed with. If, say, Rush or one of the other leaders of the GOP had classified it as a shakedown, disagreement would not be permitted.

181 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:52:57pm

re: #171 JasonA

Such a Renaissance Man. Raising frogs while he plants vegetables and racism. :P

/

Rodan, is that you?

182 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:53:27pm

re: #169 Nimed

The problem with the GOP is that there is actually a lot to criticize in Obama, but they almost never go there.

No, they don’t, they spend their time doing STUPID things (apologizing to BP, fer cryin’ out loud, then a bunch defending the apology! How damned ridiculous was that?)

183 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:54:04pm

re: #177 Floral Giraffe

You could be the chaperone, next year…
Hint, hint!
*waves*

Next year is Greece and a Mediterranean cruise.
Hm.

184 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:54:35pm

re: #181 Dark_Falcon

Rodan, is that you?

He’s not a tenth as funny as I am and you know it.

185 Just never mind.  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:54:49pm

re: #178 Gus 802

Hi FG. You haven’t seen me? I’ve been here. ;) I’m doing as best as I can now. A little more work coming in. Hope to see more. How are you doing?

Life is good here.
Best regards!

186 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:55:19pm

re: #179 JasonA

Are the circular saws attached to the Pit Bulls? Then I’ll be impressed…

/

Don’t give them any ideas. It could be a performance art piece. Meth-head pit bulls with circular saws attached running to the background music of speed metal as they tear up KT’s bougainvillea and squash.

//

187 Just never mind.  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:55:21pm

re: #183 reine.de.tout

Next year is Greece and a Mediterranean cruise.
Hm.

Sounds good to me!

188 Ryan King  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:55:32pm

re: #180 Renaissance_Man

McConnell is fortunate that it was only Joe Barton that said it, and could thus be disagreed with. If, say, Rush or one of the other leaders of the GOP had classified it as a shakedown, disagreement would not be permitted.

I’m sure Rush will chime in on it this week. We’ll see if the GOP sheds this sludge off their trowser of if the stain stays.

189 prairiefire  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:56:00pm

re: #183 reine.de.tout

Oh my gosh, Greece is beautiful. You have not seen the color blue until you have seen the Aegean Sea. Amazing food. Go, go, go.

190 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:57:02pm

If they’re in an aquarium (fishbowl, etc.) they have to have something to stand on after a certain point. We loaded up a styrofoam cup with some rocks and put it in so the little tadpoles became froggies without drowning.

Then, because I was 8 1/2 months pregnant, we took them to a local pond and let them go, at which point they probably became a statistic in the food chain, but I didn’t tell the kids that.

191 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:57:42pm

re: #183 reine.de.tout

Next year is Greece and a Mediterranean cruise.
Hm.

Here’s next year’s trip

192 Renaissance_Man  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:57:49pm

re: #182 reine.de.tout

No, they don’t, they spend their time doing STUPID things (apologizing to BP, fer cryin’ out loud, then a bunch defending the apology! How damned ridiculous was that?)

GOP politicians are in a very tough place. The Democrats have many things that they could actually be criticised on, but talking about them would be totally uninteresting to their voters. It’s a bizarre political situation. Their voters are so heavily caught up in worshipful cults of personality that they demand bigger, crazier, more hyperbolic criticisms, rather than something reasonable and based in fact. I don’t envy them their situation at all.

193 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:59:51pm

re: #187 Floral Giraffe

Sounds good to me!

Wanna go?

194 Reginald Perrin  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 7:59:52pm

re: #181 Dark_Falcon

Rodan, is that you?

It can’t be Rodan, the post wasn’t full of spelling and grammar mistakes.

195 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:00:36pm

re: #194 Reginald Perrin

It can’t be Rodan, the post wasn’t full of spelling and grammar mistakes.


Also…

I don’t bend that way.

196 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:01:38pm

re: #175 reine.de.tout

I want to go here as well:

en.wikipedia.org

A very very old Roman (they aren’t sure) carving in the hill. I dated a guy from there in college.

Image: Cerne_Abbas_Giant_View.jpg

Image: cerne1.jpg

197 Just never mind.  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:01:59pm

re: #193 reine.de.tout

Wanna go?

Yes, I will go!
It’d be fun!

198 Firstinla  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:03:31pm

re: #193 reine.de.tout

I do! I made a similar trip when I finished college in the ‘60’s. I’d like see the changes, this time without the herbal influence.

199 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:03:49pm

re: #196 Stanley Sea

I want to go here as well:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

A very very old Roman (they aren’t sure) carving in the hill. I dated a guy from there in college.

Image: Cerne_Abbas_Giant_View.jpg

Image: cerne1.jpg

Oh, wow.
I really wanted to go on this year’s trip.
re: #197 Floral Giraffe

Yes, I will go!
It’d be fun!


You serious?
I should get info about the trip sometime in the fall, will send it to you and see what I can work out.
The prices for non-students are a bit higher than the student prices shown.
But still very reasonable.

200 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:04:08pm

re: #196 Stanley Sea

I want to go here as well:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

A very very old Roman (they aren’t sure) carving in the hill. I dated a guy from there in college.

Image: Cerne_Abbas_Giant_View.jpg

Image: cerne1.jpg

*ahem* This isn’t a site for ancient pr0n, missy.

/

201 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:04:42pm

I’d like to go from Normandy, to Paris, then Belgium and Amsterdam. Followed by Zell Am See and then Turin then off to Buenos Aires before hitting Tokyo.

202 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:04:47pm

re: #200 JasonA

*ahem* This isn’t a site for ancient pr0n, missy.

/

Silence!
That’s what the internet was made for!

203 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:05:21pm

re: #200 JasonA

*ahem* This isn’t a site for ancient pr0n, missy.

/

It’s the best! So freaking pure. LOL, it’s England! I’ll also go on the Canterbury Trail tour!

204 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:05:37pm

re: #198 Firstinla

I do! I made a similar trip when I finished college in the ‘60’s. I’d like see the changes, this time without the herbal influence.

ha!

My daughter told me her allergies are bothering her and she kept taking her Benadryl, and for the first several days couldn’t figure out why she was so sleepy all the time. One of her buddies finally saw her taking the benadryl and told her, well, DUH! She had to find some non-drowsy antihistimine.

Of course, that’s not exactly the herbal influence I think you’re talking about, though.

205 Just never mind.  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:05:54pm

re: #193 reine.de.tout

I was an “escort” for a group of college kids to Milan, Italy, when I was 20ish.
Older than the kids were, anyway. They couldn’t get anyone “more responsible” than me to take the job. Herded the kids at the airport, made sure everyone had the right docs, slept for hours on the plane, got off the plane in Milan, handed the kids off to another “keeper” and fooled around, on my own in Milan for two weeks, FOR FREE! It was great!
I’d do it again in a NY minute.

206 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:06:30pm

re: #202 Varek Raith

Silence!
That’s what the internet was made for!

We can porn better than it was before.
Better…
Stronger…
Faster…!

207 Nimed  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:06:36pm

re: #164 Killgore Trout

They’re in the pond but I set up a little protected frog area for them about 4 inches deep, two feet wide and four feet long.

Beware — if you ever decide to eat one of the frogs, you will automatically acquire French citizenship.

youtube.com!v=_BFOyn8K7pg&feature=related

208 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:07:09pm

re: #199 reine.de.tout

You serious?
I should get info about the trip sometime in the fall, will send it to you and see what I can work out.
The prices for non-students are a bit higher than the student prices shown.
But still very reasonable.

You know what that remind me of?
A year or so ago I saw a story where a kid had gone up onto the roof of his house, and drew some picture of a nude or something. It was apparently up there for MONTHS before his parents got wind of it.
Anybody else remember that story?

209 prairiefire  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:07:16pm

re: #203 Stanley Sea

I bet that accent went a long way.

210 Just never mind.  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:07:27pm

re: #206 JasonA

We can porn better than it was before.
Better…
Stronger…
Faster…!

You forgot harder…
just sayin’

211 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:07:39pm

re: #184 JasonA

He’s not a tenth as funny as I am and you know it.

Yes, I know. You’re not crazy, so when you’re funny its because you intended to be funny. Most humor related to Rodan consists of others laughing at his lunacy.

212 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:08:14pm

re: #208 reine.de.tout

You know what that remind me of?
A year or so ago I saw a story where a kid had gone up onto the roof of his house, and drew some picture of a nude or something. It was apparently up there for MONTHS before his parents got wind of it.
Anybody else remember that story?

OOPS.
This was supposed to be a response to:
re: #196 Stanley Sea

I want to go here as well:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

A very very old Roman (they aren’t sure) carving in the hill. I dated a guy from there in college.

Image: Cerne_Abbas_Giant_View.jpg

Image: cerne1.jpg

213 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:08:53pm

re: #210 Floral Giraffe

You forgot harder…
just sayin’

SMACK with the riding crop!

214 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:09:00pm

re: #210 Floral Giraffe

You forgot harder…
just sayin’

Keep it up and you might make me blush.

215 Just never mind.  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:09:35pm

re: #212 reine.de.tout

It was a man’s private part, IIRC.
I’ll not link it, but it was in England, if you really want to look it up…

216 Firstinla  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:09:44pm

re: #204 reine.de.tout

I don’t know if benadryl existed back them. The weed pretty much took care of everything EXCEPT seasickness. That’s when I began to change my ways! I got sick of being seasick.

217 Just never mind.  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:14:13pm

re: #213 Dark_Falcon

SMACK with the riding crop!

Thank you, Sir.

218 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:14:31pm

re: #196 Stanley Sea

I want to go here as well:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

A very very old Roman (they aren’t sure) carving in the hill. I dated a guy from there in college.

Image: Cerne_Abbas_Giant_View.jpg

Image: cerne1.jpg

You know what really bothers me about this picture? Why is he so excited? I mean, he has a club in his hand like he’s about to hit something, so why the… tumescence?

219 Bagua  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:16:18pm

Is the game over yet?

220 Just never mind.  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:17:12pm

re: #219 Bagua

Is the game over yet?

Which game?
*waves*

221 Kewalo  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:17:20pm

Chris didn’t go far enough. I remember going home after school when the hearings were on TV. We lived in LA and my cousin Jim was a grip for one of the studios and I remember the fear that he would lose his job. It wasn’t just writers, directors, producers that were black listed, but all kinds of workers.

During the depression the communists would have meetings and serve sandwiches, people were actually going hungry. Then they would have people sign a sign-up sheet. Those sheets were then used by the RW idiots to go after people and call them “commies.” There might have been a few commies, but mostly people just wanted a sandwich.

No, Chris didn’t go half far enough and it’s amazing that now that I’m an old lady I am astounded at how much I can hate those people that are trying to do the same thing today. I really didn’t think it was possible to hate some people as much as I hate those ignorant bastards that are trying to hurt the country again. Wouldn’t you think that once would be enough?

Thanks for bringing this up Charles. Every American should know how how these people tried to hurt America before and are trying to do it again.

222 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:17:52pm

re: #209 prairiefire

I bet that accent went a long way.

You know it.

223 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:18:20pm

re: #221 Kewalo

Chris didn’t go far enough. I remember going home after school when the hearings were on TV. We lived in LA and my cousin Jim was a grip for one of the studios and I remember the fear that he would lose his job. It wasn’t just writers, directors, producers that were black listed, but all kinds of workers.

During the depression the communists would have meetings and serve sandwiches, people were actually going hungry. Then they would have people sign a sign-up sheet. Those sheets were then used by the RW idiots to go after people and call them “commies.” There might have been a few commies, but mostly people just wanted a sandwich.

No, Chris didn’t go half far enough and it’s amazing that now that I’m an old lady I am astounded at how much I can hate those people that are trying to do the same thing today. I really didn’t think it was possible to hate some people as much as I hate those ignorant bastards that are trying to hurt the country again. Wouldn’t you think that once would be enough?

Thanks for bringing this up Charles. Every American should know how how these people tried to hurt America before and are trying to do it again.

Or maybe not?

224 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:18:47pm

re: #212 reine.de.tout

We got it, at least I did. Find that story!

225 Ryan King  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:19:02pm

Ya think CJ’s hatemail will have a noticeable uptick after promoting a show with Teh Eevle Chris Mathews tearing up these patriotic tea partiers?

226 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:20:33pm

re: #224 Stanley Sea

We got it, at least I did. Find that story!

Here it is!

Teen paints 60-foot phallus on roof

227 SteveC  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:20:55pm

Evening, all!

I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in….

228 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:22:41pm

re: #227 SteveC

Evening, all!

I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in…

Sup?

229 Just never mind.  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:23:10pm

re: #215 Floral Giraffe

It was a man’s private part, IIRC.
I’ll not link it, but it was in England, if you really want to look it up…

#226 Reine,
LOL!
What’d I win?
Um, no, not that, thank you!

230 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:23:13pm

re: #226 reine.de.tout

Here it is!

Teen paints 60-foot phallus on roof

Looks more like a landing strip.

I was really happy I could get another genital reference in there…

231 ryannon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:23:30pm

re: #218 JasonA

You know what really bothers me about this picture? Why is he so excited? I mean, he has a club in his hand like he’s about to hit something, so why the… tumescence?


I saw this one, which is considered to be very ancient (prehistoric). Britain is full of Celtic and pre-Celtic vestiges; the past hangs above the country like an invisible veil.

232 SteveC  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:24:42pm

re: #228 Varek Raith

Sup?

Busier than a one legged man in an ass kicking contest! It’s getting so that I’m almost a Weekend Lizard only. :(

233 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:25:30pm

re: #229 Floral Giraffe

#226 Reine,
LOL!
What’d I win?
Um, no, not that, thank you!

LOL.
I just realized you said you would not link the story.
So there I go, linking it.
I thought it was funny as hell!

234 What, me worry?  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:25:36pm

Evenin Lizards.

I think I saw Minnie Pearl in the video.

235 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:25:54pm

re: #183 reine.de.tout

Next year is Greece and a Mediterranean cruise.
Hm.

You must go to Israel.

236 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:25:57pm

re: #226 reine.de.tout

Here it is!

Teen paints 60-foot phallus on roof

But he said: “When Rory gets home he will be given a scrubbing brush and white spirit and he can go and scrub it off.”

If you knew how my mind read the end of that sentence you wouldn’t want to associate with me anymore…

237 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:25:57pm

Rahm Emanuel expected to quit White House

“I would bet he will go after the midterms,” said a leading Democratic consultant in Washington. “Nobody thinks it’s working but they can’t get rid of him – that would look awful. He needs the right sort of job to go to but the consensus is he’ll go.”

“Democrats have not stood behind the president in the way Republicans did for George W Bush, and that was meant to be Rahm’s job.”

Well… what did they expect… he can’t make a silk purse out of a sows ear.

telegraph.co.uk

238 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:26:42pm

re: #236 JasonA

If you knew how my mind read the end of that sentence you wouldn’t want to associate with me anymore…

Tsk, tsk.

239 Just never mind.  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:27:00pm

re: #233 reine.de.tout

It is, and it was!
Glad you found it & got a giggle!
*smooch*

240 SteveC  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:27:16pm

2010 Radiology pin up calendar

Look at your own risk! :)

241 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:27:21pm

re: #238 Varek Raith

Tsk, tsk.

Oh you’re really not the one to wag their finger at me. :P

242 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:27:41pm

re: #235 Alouette

You must go to Israel.

It’s on my list, I would love to. Greece, Italy, the UK and Israel are the places I would like to see.

If I can ever get the courage to fly.
*pfft*

243 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:27:55pm

re: #240 SteveC

2010 Radiology pin up calendar

Look at your own risk! :)

Heh!
:)

244 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:28:37pm

re: #241 JasonA

Oh you’re really not the one to wag their finger at me. :P

What’s he wagging?

(OMG did I really ask that question)

245 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:28:54pm

Those damn GOP obstructionist again…

…$50 billion the White House is asking for to help avert state layoffs of teachers and law enforcement officials – are stalled inside Congress.

The new dynamic played out last week in a series of startling Senate votes, where Democratic leaders fell short on a package of new spending and tax cut extensions – and seemed genuinely surprised that they were unable to keep their own members on board.

abcnews.go.com

246 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:29:00pm

re: #244 reine.de.tout

What’s he wagging?

(OMG did I really ask that question)

Lol!
I’m shocked!
:D

247 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:29:01pm

re: #240 SteveC

2010 Radiology pin up calendar

Look at your own risk! :)

Oh, would you look at that spinal column on Miss October! *whistle*

248 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:29:49pm

re: #244 reine.de.tout

What’s he wagging?

(OMG did I really ask that question)

I’m sorry for being such a bad influence on you. :(

/

249 Just never mind.  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:30:56pm

re: #183 reine.de.tout

Next year is Greece and a Mediterranean cruise.
Hm.

Yeah! Do we get to go to the Acroplolis?
Maybe to a couple of the isles?
I’m totally in.
Have to look up the names of the temples, I really want to see.
Greece is supposed to be amazing.
Lovely people, good food, fantastic architecture.
I’m game.

250 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:31:24pm

re: #248 JasonA

I’m sorry for being such a bad influence on you. :(

/

No worries, hon.

I’m so sleepy, I’m goofy.
Being too sleepy to post is almost as bad as being too drunk!.

251 Just never mind.  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:31:33pm

re: #244 reine.de.tout

What’s he wagging?

(OMG did I really ask that question)

LOL!
Yes, you did!

252 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:31:39pm

re: #71 SpaceJesus

the animal motto for these people shouldn’t be a coiled snake, it should be a lawnchair or an obese corgi dog

I like corgis!

253 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:31:45pm

re: #242 reine.de.tout

It’s on my list, I would love to. Greece, Italy, the UK and Israel are the places I would like to see.

If I can ever get the courage to fly.
*pfft*

Well, if you’re already in Greece, it’s just a short boat trip to Cyprus and from there to Haifa.

It’s an even shorter flight from Athens to Tel Aviv, I think about an hour and a half.

254 firstinla  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:32:04pm

re: #250 reine.de.tout

Bit you feel so much better in the morning.

255 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:32:05pm

re: #249 Floral Giraffe

Yeah! Do we get to go to the Acroplolis?
Maybe to a couple of the isles?
I’m totally in.
Have to look up the names of the temples, I really want to see.
Greece is supposed to be amazing.
Lovely people, good food, fantastic architecture.
I’m game.

Don’t miss the Hagia Sophia.

256 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:32:07pm

re: #183 reine.de.tout

Next year is Greece and a Mediterranean cruise.
Hm.

My brother is cruising the Mediterranean right now at this very moment.

257 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:32:27pm

re: #253 Alouette

Well, if you’re already in Greece, it’s just a short boat trip to Cyprus and from there to Haifa.

It’s an even shorter flight from Athens to Tel Aviv, I think about an hour and a half.

It’s getting to Greece in the first place that’ll be my biggest problem. Argh.

258 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:32:41pm

re: #82 Lidane

Hey! Corgis are awesome. If we’re going to assign a dog breed to these people, it should be a Chihuahua — annoying, yapping little things that are utterly useless and which just get underfoot. =P

Chihuahuas are nice little dogs. If they’re properly raised and trained, they’re not yappy at all. Very quiet and serene, really.

Pomeranians?

259 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:32:51pm

re: #254 firstinla

Bit you feel so much better in the morning.

heh.
no doubt about it.

261 Just never mind.  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:32:58pm

re: #252 SanFranciscoZionist

I like corgis!

I hear a flower expert, while lecturing.
Juuump, Juuump. While showing the brave, stumpy little dogs a ring of fire to jump through.

262 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:33:27pm

re: #257 reine.de.tout

It’s getting to Greece in the first place that’ll be my biggest problem. Argh.

You have an airplane phobia?

Flying sucks. Ambien is your friend.

263 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:33:28pm

re: #257 reine.de.tout

It’s getting to Greece in the first place that’ll be my biggest problem. Argh.

Boat?
.
.
.
.
Swim?

264 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:33:29pm

re: #93 Spare O’Lake

Chris Matthews loved the left before he voted for Dubya and before the Obama tingle stopped.

I think Chris Matthews just has bad cases of president worship.

265 prairiefire  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:33:38pm

re: #252 SanFranciscoZionist

I like corgis!

Me, too. And I love Queen Elizabeth. She’s like a dear old aunt, keeping everyone in line. Her little hand bag she doesn’t need in the crook of her arm. Untold riches. I’m an Anglophile.

266 Just never mind.  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:33:48pm

re: #258 SanFranciscoZionist

Chihuahuas are nice little dogs. If they’re properly raised and trained, they’re not yappy at all. Very quiet and serene, really.

Pomeranians?

Ewww. Pomeranians.
Nasty little biting things.

267 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:34:13pm

re: #256 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My brother is cruising the Mediterranean right now at this very moment.

REally?
Is he enjoying it?
You must let me know what the reports are.
I would love do to that.

268 SteveC  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:34:39pm

re: #254 firstinla

Bit you feel so much better in the morning.

*sings* But will you still love me tomorrow?

269 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:35:09pm

re: #171 JasonA

Such a Renaissance Man. Raising frogs while he plants vegetables and racism. :P

/

I’m very busy.

270 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:35:25pm

re: #245 Walter L. Newton

Those damn GOP obstructionist again…

…$50 billion the White House is asking for to help avert state layoffs of teachers and law enforcement officials – are stalled inside Congress.

The new dynamic played out last week in a series of startling Senate votes, where Democratic leaders fell short on a package of new spending and tax cut extensions – and seemed genuinely surprised that they were unable to keep their own members on board.

[Link: abcnews.go.com…]

Yet the Dems will still blame the GOP. The reality is that most people simply don’t want any more bad stimulus debt.

271 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:35:35pm

Thanks for all the kind posts and thoughts over the past 24 hours. I’ll be in better form in a day or two.

My daughter’s boyfriend came out of the surgery, vitals are good. It’s going to be several days before we know the full extent of his paralysis.

Hug your kids.

272 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:36:28pm

re: #271 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thanks for all the kind posts and thoughts over the past 24 hours. I’ll be in better form in a day or two.

My daughter’s boyfriend came out of the surgery, vitals are good. It’s going to be several days before we know the full extent of his paralysis.

Hug your kids.

Sorry to hear about that, FBV.
:(

273 Nimed  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:36:41pm

re: #245 Walter L. Newton

Those damn GOP obstructionist again…

…$50 billion the White House is asking for to help avert state layoffs of teachers and law enforcement officials – are stalled inside Congress.

The new dynamic played out last week in a series of startling Senate votes, where Democratic leaders fell short on a package of new spending and tax cut extensions – and seemed genuinely surprised that they were unable to keep their own members on board.

[Link: abcnews.go.com…]

Well, ain’t that something!

/I felt bad nobody was responding to Walter’s baiting attempts.

274 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:36:53pm

re: #271 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thanks for all the kind posts and thoughts over the past 24 hours. I’ll be in better form in a day or two.

My daughter’s boyfriend came out of the surgery, vitals are good. It’s going to be several days before we know the full extent of his paralysis.

Hug your kids.

{FBV}
You just be in whatever form you need to be in.
This is a very sad situation.
Please keep us posted.

275 Just never mind.  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:38:18pm

re: #271 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

{{{FBV}}}
I wish nothing but the best, for you & your loved ones.

276 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:39:14pm

Ok, I’m sold sold The Texas Crutch. I’m always wary of these little gimmicks but it’s worth the extra effort. Best ribs ever.

277 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:39:32pm

re: #265 prairiefire

Me, too. And I love Queen Elizabeth. She’s like a dear old aunt, keeping everyone in line. Her little hand bag she doesn’t need in the crook of her arm. Untold riches. I’m an Anglophile.

I admit I like her too.
And I’ll admit this too -
While the situation between Charles & Dianna was not a pretty one, I’m thrilled for him (idiot though he is) that he finally got to marry Camilla, who I think is the love of his life. He should have married her before (and may have done so, if it had not been for his trying to maintain proper royal appearances)

278 prairiefire  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:40:20pm

re: #271 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I’m so sorry for the both of them. I wonder if they were starting to plan a life together. I’m sending prayers your way, FBV.

279 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:40:27pm

re: #273 Nimed

Well, ain’t that something!

/I felt bad nobody was responding to Walter’s baiting attempts.

Well… so… if someone posts a link to some Palin material… it’s information… if I post a link to some information about the Dems… it’s baiting… you realize how stupid that sounds?

280 What, me worry?  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:40:37pm

re: #271 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thanks for all the kind posts and thoughts over the past 24 hours. I’ll be in better form in a day or two.

My daughter’s boyfriend came out of the surgery, vitals are good. It’s going to be several days before we know the full extent of his paralysis.

Hug your kids.

{{{FBV}}} to you and your family and friends. My prayers to the young man.

281 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:41:23pm

re: #279 Walter L. Newton

Well… so… if someone posts a link to some Palin material… it’s information… if I post a link to some information about the Dems… it’s baiting… you realize how stupid that sounds?

Of course you do…

282 prairiefire  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:41:46pm

re: #277 reine.de.tout

Yes, you are right. He is a silly goose, but with a good heart. I think Dianna was barking mad. I am sorry for her boys.

283 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:42:15pm

re: #262 Alouette

You have an airplane phobia?

Flying sucks. Ambien is your friend.

Exactly, I do not like to fly.
And yes, if I did it, it would have to be with something like Ambien to knock me out. Otherwise I’m a nervous wreck and end up blathering on and chattering to anyone who’ll listen. It’s not pretty.

284 Nimed  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:42:51pm

re: #279 Walter L. Newton

Well… so… if someone posts a link to some Palin material… it’s information… if I post a link to some information about the Dems… it’s baiting… you realize how stupid that sounds?

That’s a really good point, Walter. I’m sorry for my blatant double standard.

285 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:44:17pm

re: #245 Walter L. Newton

Those damn GOP obstructionist again…

…$50 billion the White House is asking for to help avert state layoffs of teachers and law enforcement officials – are stalled inside Congress.

The new dynamic played out last week in a series of startling Senate votes, where Democratic leaders fell short on a package of new spending and tax cut extensions – and seemed genuinely surprised that they were unable to keep their own members on board.

[Link: abcnews.go.com…]

Democrats should applaud you for showing your appreciation of Senate Democrats who have drawn a line in the sand regarding spending. Instead of seeing a glass half empty, you instead see a glass half full.

286 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:44:29pm

re: #282 prairiefire

Yes, you are right. He is a silly goose, but with a good heart. I think Dianna was barking mad. I am sorry for her boys.

ha!
I don’t think she was barking mad, but she wasn’t all she was cracked up to be, either.

She did seem to be a good mom, and the boys suffered greatly when she died, I’m sure. They seem to be turning out OK, specially William.

287 SteveC  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:45:07pm

re: #271 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thanks for all the kind posts and thoughts over the past 24 hours. I’ll be in better form in a day or two.

My daughter’s boyfriend came out of the surgery, vitals are good. It’s going to be several days before we know the full extent of his paralysis.

Hug your kids.

Oh my goodness! This is the first time I’ve read about this, FBV, but you and your family will be in my thoughts!

288 prairiefire  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:46:20pm

re: #286 reine.de.tout

He had better marry his Kate. She’s the best one for him.

Night, lizards.

289 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:46:27pm

re: #285 Gus 802

Democrats should applaud you for showing your appreciation of Senate Democrats who have drawn a line in the sand regarding spending. Instead of seeing a glass half empty, you instead see a glass half full.

You got it… twisting and spinning it doesn’t change the facts. Now… if the report was about the ADMINISTRATION seeing the problem they are creating, then I would have something to crow about… in this case… it’s infighting and eating their own… loving every minute of it. Hell, I’m not even waiting for the mid-terms to start cackling and sniping.

Touche’.

290 SteveC  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:47:42pm

Dengue Fever in Honduras

Around 11,000 people have been infected with dengue and at least 10 have died in Honduras, which has led authorities to announce a red alert across the country.

291 Bagua  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:48:34pm

re: #242 reine.de.tout

It’s on my list, I would love to. Greece, Italy, the UK and Israel are the places I would like to see.

If I can ever get the courage to fly.
*pfft*

All lovely places and well worth a visit.

292 Just never mind.  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:49:26pm

re: #283 reine.de.tout

Exactly, I do not like to fly.
And yes, if I did it, it would have to be with something like Ambien to knock me out. Otherwise I’m a nervous wreck and end up blathering on and chattering to anyone who’ll listen. It’s not pretty.

You can sit next to me.
I’ll hold you r hand.
Eventually,we willl land, and it will be over.
WAY faster than a boat…

293 Macha  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:49:34pm

re: #218 JasonA

You know what really bothers me about this picture? Why is he so excited? I mean, he has a club in his hand like he’s about to hit something, so why the… tumescence?

He just saw the girl of his dreams and is getting ready to bash her over the head before dragging her back to his cave. I think that is how they did it back then.

294 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:49:42pm

re: #226 reine.de.tout

Here it is!

Teen paints 60-foot phallus on roof

OMG that’s a freaking mansion! Bad (funny) kid!

295 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:49:49pm

re: #292 Floral Giraffe

You can sit next to me.
I’ll hold you r hand.
Eventually,we willl land, and it will be over.
WAY faster than a boat…

LOL.
OK, that’ll work.

296 Bagua  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:49:57pm

re: #257 reine.de.tout

It’s getting to Greece in the first place that’ll be my biggest problem. Argh.

Take the ferry from Brindisi if you don’t like to fly much.

297 firstinla  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:51:06pm

I’m leaving 7/6 for two weeks in Sweden, Finland and Denmark. This will be my first time to Scandanavia. For some reason these places are more foreign to me than Greece of Israel. Volcano ash permitting, it should be a great trip.

298 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:51:23pm

re: #296 Bagua

Take the ferry from Brindisi if you don’t like to fly much.

And how to I get to Brindisi?
Seems I’m gonna have to fly at some point if I want to take this trip.
ugh.

299 Just never mind.  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:51:48pm

Good night, dear Lizards!
Miz Reine, hang in there.
Greece sounds like a plan!
{{Reine}}

300 Bagua  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:52:00pm

re: #271 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thanks for all the kind posts and thoughts over the past 24 hours. I’ll be in better form in a day or two.

My daughter’s boyfriend came out of the surgery, vitals are good. It’s going to be several days before we know the full extent of his paralysis.

Hug your kids.

Prayers and best wishes. {Fat Bastard Vegetarian}

301 Macha  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:53:52pm

re: #290 SteveC

Dengue Fever in Honduras

Nasty stuff that.

302 firstinla  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:55:21pm

re: #298 reine.de.tout

On the trans-Atlantic flight, sit in an aisle seat in the middle of the plane in economy class. These planes are 7-9 seats across and you’ll be so busy getting up and down for others that you will have no time to be white-knuckle afraid.

303 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:57:12pm

re: #297 firstinla

re: #298 reine.de.tout

Have fun you two. I’ll be lucky if I can even afford an overnight trip to Gen Con this year.

304 What, me worry?  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:57:23pm

re: #282 prairiefire

Yes, you are right. He is a silly goose, but with a good heart. I think Dianna was barking mad. I am sorry for her boys.

Really? I’m a big fan of Dianna. She came into her own the last 10 years or so of her short life. She was a philanthropist and worked hard with many charities in Africa. In fact, she was one of the first high profile people to be seen with AIDS patients in Africa. Her biggest effort, though, was working internationally to ban landmines. She was a dedicated woman.

biographyonline.net

305 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:58:13pm

re: #304 marjoriemoon

Really? I’m a big fan of Dianna. She came into her own the last 10 years or so of her short life. She was a philanthropist and worked hard with many charities in Africa. In fact, she was one of the first high profile people to be seen with AIDS patients in Africa. Her biggest effort, though, was working internationally to ban landmines. She was a dedicated woman.

[Link: www.biographyonline.net…]

She died on my birthday.

306 What, me worry?  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 8:59:33pm

re: #305 Cannadian Club Akbar

She died on my birthday.

I met my husband on the weekend she died!

307 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:01:29pm

re: #306 marjoriemoon

I met my husband on the weekend she died!

I went to a Bucs game and ended up driving home 3 friends because I was the only sober one. How did that happen? My 30th birthday, in fact.

308 Macha  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:01:57pm

Goodnight all, it is time for me to turn in early tonight.

309 Bagua  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:02:18pm

re: #298 reine.de.tout

And how to I get to Brindisi?
Seems I’m gonna have to fly at some point if I want to take this trip.
ugh.

Take one hop over the pond to Gatwick. Visit London, with a side trip to Stratford upon Avon.

Then take the train to Paris. Enjoy. Then the high speed train down to the Cote de Azur. Drive along the Riviera living large.

Take the train to Florence, then the train to Rome, and another train to Brindisi.

Fly back to the states direct from Israel.
Take ferry to Haifa via Crete.


Take the ferry to Greece and a train to Athens.

310 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:04:41pm

re: #289 Walter L. Newton

You got it… twisting and spinning it doesn’t change the facts. Now… if the report was about the ADMINISTRATION seeing the problem they are creating, then I would have something to crow about… in this case… it’s infighting and eating their own… loving every minute of it. Hell, I’m not even waiting for the mid-terms to start cackling and sniping.

Touche’.

I don’t do parties. Financial markets have gone global since the mid 2000s. We were struggling under a near recession for the better part of that decade which led to the final near collapse on October of 2008 which led TARP as promoted by Hank Paulson who worked alongside the New York Fed boss, Timothy Geithner.

Even though spending has increased it still on the same trajectory as it was before January 20, 2009. Majority of spending is on entitlements and defense. With the former we have an aging population and baby boomers entering the entitlement “market.” On the latter we are fighting a two front war in Iraq and Afghanistan which are still not free or payed for by Iraqi oil revenues (as promised). At the same time we are providing military “services” for the Persian Gulf, North Korea, Haiti, East Africa (pirates), and the Indonesian region.

Everything was, still and will be set up for the top 1 percent of this nation. Nothing has changed before January 20th nor after. My world fell apart on October of 2008 and hit bottom in October of 2009. This was with both Republicans and Democrats at the helm. Frankly, whoever wins in 2010 or 2012 probably won’t mean a spit of difference in my life.

311 Bagua  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:05:19pm

Note: Final line was meant to be penultimate.

312 ClaudeMonet  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:07:24pm

re: #255 Walter L. Newton

Don’t miss the Hagia Sophia.

IIRC Hagia Sophia is in Istanbul (not Constantinople), which is in Turkey, not Greece.

313 Bagua  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:09:09pm

re: #310 Gus 802

I don’t do parties. Financial markets have gone global since the mid 2000s. We were struggling under a near recession for the better part of that decade which led to the final near collapse on October of 2008 which led TARP as promoted by Hank Paulson who worked alongside the New York Fed boss, Timothy Geithner.

Even though spending has increased it still on the same trajectory as it was before January 20, 2009. Majority of spending is on entitlements and defense. With the former we have an aging population and baby boomers entering the entitlement “market.” On the latter we are fighting a two front war in Iraq and Afghanistan which are still not free or payed for by Iraqi oil revenues (as promised). At the same time we are providing military “services” for the Persian Gulf, North Korea, Haiti, East Africa (pirates), and the Indonesian region.

Everything was, still and will be set up for the top 1 percent of this nation. Nothing has changed before January 20th nor after. My world fell apart on October of 2008 and hit bottom in October of 2009. This was with both Republicans and Democrats at the helm. Frankly, whoever wins in 2010 or 2012 probably won’t mean a spit of difference in my life.

Well said. I hope things improve for you personally.

314 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:09:32pm

re: #310 Gus 802

I don’t agree. Things could get far worse if a crazy person was elected, or if Obama was put into a situation he can’t cope with, but that a stronger person could.

315 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:10:09pm

re: #314 Dark_Falcon

I don’t agree. Things could get far worse if a crazy person was elected, or if Obama was put into a situation he can’t cope with, but that a stronger person could.

Oh, well, yeah. I trust that we won’t elect a crazy person into the White House.

/Knock on wood.

316 Bagua  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:10:25pm

re: #298 reine.de.tout

Of course, that is just the structure. I’ll give you a more detailed itinerary when you are ready to plan your trip.

317 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:12:28pm

re: #305 Cannadian Club Akbar

She died on my birthday.

Elvis died on mine.

318 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:13:39pm

re: #310 Gus 802

I don’t do parties. Financial markets have gone global since the mid 2000s. We were struggling under a near recession for the better part of that decade which led to the final near collapse on October of 2008 which led TARP as promoted by Hank Paulson who worked alongside the New York Fed boss, Timothy Geithner.

Even though spending has increased it still on the same trajectory as it was before January 20, 2009. Majority of spending is on entitlements and defense. With the former we have an aging population and baby boomers entering the entitlement “market.” On the latter we are fighting a two front war in Iraq and Afghanistan which are still not free or payed for by Iraqi oil revenues (as promised). At the same time we are providing military “services” for the Persian Gulf, North Korea, Haiti, East Africa (pirates), and the Indonesian region.

Everything was, still and will be set up for the top 1 percent of this nation. Nothing has changed before January 20th nor after. My world fell apart on October of 2008 and hit bottom in October of 2009. This was with both Republicans and Democrats at the helm. Frankly, whoever wins in 2010 or 2012 probably won’t mean a spit of difference in my life.

Bottom line… at least from my point of view… “whoever wins” has never meant anything to my life… except occasional bumps that I had to maneuver around… and the fun of playing devils advocate sneering at these fools. This much I’ll say, my predictive skills have always been about 85 percent in regards to the direction things move in politics. So, if you have been paying attention to things I have been saying for the last 5-6 years on LGF, you may find some insight into the future. And maybe not.

This baby boomer is not falling in with “… an aging population and baby boomers entering the entitlement “market.” I make my own way, and that’s another fact you should be aware of.

It’s not that I don’t respect or consider what you or anyone else comments on, or surmises, or your opinions or even the facts, it’s just that none of that means crap to me at the bottom line. I make my own bottom line… the rest is a joke… that’s my cure for insanity.

319 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:13:51pm

re: #317 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Elvis died on mine.

When Elvis died, I was in the back of a station wagon going on vacation. There was no pie for your celebration, though.

320 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:14:43pm

*Opens the door, pokes his head in*

I just want to tell you both good luck. We’re all counting on you.

*Closes the door*

321 Jerk  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:15:50pm

Damn, Matthews smacks down that Oath Promise Ring Keeper! Skip to it. He tears him apart.

322 ryannon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:18:02pm

re: #317 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Elvis died on mine.

I was born on mine.

323 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:18:10pm

re: #321 Jerk

Damn, Matthews smacks down that Oath Promise Ring Keeper! Skip to it. He tears him apart.

No kidding… good job Chrissy… that will probably be the last we see of those fools. Put that crazy movement to bed. And not a damn minute too quickly. Dodged that bullet.

324 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:19:02pm

re: #322 ryannon

I was born on mine.

I call bullshit.
/

325 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:19:44pm

re: #323 Walter L. Newton

This is not your best material, Walter.

326 ryannon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:21:03pm

re: #324 Cannadian Club Akbar

I call bullshit.
/

This is really a tough house.

327 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:21:09pm

re: #325 JasonA

This is not your best material, Walter.

It’s late… I’m working up some new ideas… did you see the one I did earlier today on another thread?

328 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:21:35pm

re: #325 JasonA

This is not your best material, Walter.

And? Even if its not his best its still damn good.

329 Nimed  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:21:45pm

re: #312 ClaudeMonet

IIRC Hagia Sophia is in Istanbul (not Constantinople), which is in Turkey, not Greece.

The Hagia Sophia is in Istanbul, which is in (modern) Turkey. But Istanbul is Constantinople (Istanbul was also the ancient Greek city of Byzantium).

330 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:21:45pm

re: #327 Walter L. Newton

It’s late… I’m working up some new ideas… did you see the one I did earlier today on another thread?

Maybe. Was it good?

331 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:21:58pm

re: #326 ryannon

This is really a tough house.

We do fact check here you know?

332 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:22:50pm

re: #328 Dark_Falcon

And? Even if its not his best its still damn good.

Oh he has higher standards than that.

333 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:23:04pm

re: #326 ryannon

This is really a tough house.

Get no respect. No respect at all!

334 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:23:07pm

re: #318 Walter L. Newton

Bottom line… at least from my point of view… “whoever wins” has never meant anything to my life… except occasional bumps that I had to maneuver around… and the fun of playing devils advocate sneering at these fools. This much I’ll say, my predictive skills have always been about 85 percent in regards to the direction things move in politics. So, if you have been paying attention to things I have been saying for the last 5-6 years on LGF, you may find some insight into the future. And maybe not.

This baby boomer is not falling in with “… an aging population and baby boomers entering the entitlement “market.” I make my own way, and that’s another fact you should be aware of.

It’s not that I don’t respect or consider what you or anyone else comments on, or surmises, or your opinions or even the facts, it’s just that none of that means crap to me at the bottom line. I make my own bottom line… the rest is a joke… that’s my cure for insanity.

The aging of baby-boomers means two things. Your adding in a larger number of people into an already bankrupt entitlement program — make that programs. And, you’re going to see an imbalance between a working population and a retired population. An aging population means higher entitlement requirements — i.e. Federal spending and/or borrowing. Heck, that includes me.

335 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:23:19pm

re: #330 JasonA

Maybe. Was it good?

About the VFW… here… reprint…

For fathers day my family took me to our local VFW monthly Post breakfast buffet and you won’t believe some of the scary things I saw.

First of all, there was someone who brought a collection of GUNS to show off… all kinds of military weapons that I suspect would make big loud noises if they were filled with bullets and gunpowder and stuff like that.

And I think I saw some skinheads for the first time. There were all these older people wearing beat up leather vests with all kinds of patches and symbols on them… and they were wearing caps with numbers on them… they all looked like bikers… but very old… really, skinheads I think.

And there was at least one Nazi there… I know he was a Nazi because the name on his leather vest was “Gunther” and he was white. I didn’t want to mess with him.

All in all… that VFW was a nest of nationalist pride, which I could see how much of a danger this could be to our society. I was glad to get out of there. I hope when Janet Napolitano starts to monitor the internet that the federal government pays close attention to these VFW places. I heard there are thousands of these hives.

336 Nimed  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:23:38pm

re: #310 Gus 802

Great post.

337 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:23:39pm

re: #334 Gus 802

Your = you’re. Vey.

338 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:25:04pm

re: #335 Walter L. Newton

Ah. Yeah, I got a chuckle out of that one.

339 palomino  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:25:30pm

re: #75 brookly red

seee yooou in September November…

Be careful what you wish for. If putting the GOP back in control of Congress comes with the price of making Rand Paul, Sharron Angle, Michelle Bachmann, et al. the face of the “new GOP,” then you’ve got problems.

The return to power will be neither long nor effective. Remember: the new GOP Congress would be the same we had in 2006—minus the moderates, plus the teabaggers. Not a promising equation.

340 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:26:00pm

re: #335 Walter L. Newton

About the VFW… here… reprint…

For fathers day my family took me to our local VFW monthly Post breakfast buffet and you won’t believe some of the scary things I saw.

First of all, there was someone who brought a collection of GUNS to show off… all kinds of military weapons that I suspect would make big loud noises if they were filled with bullets and gunpowder and stuff like that.

And I think I saw some skinheads for the first time. There were all these older people wearing beat up leather vests with all kinds of patches and symbols on them… and they were wearing caps with numbers on them… they all looked like bikers… but very old… really, skinheads I think.

And there was at least one Nazi there… I know he was a Nazi because the name on his leather vest was “Gunther” and he was white. I didn’t want to mess with him.

All in all… that VFW was a nest of nationalist pride, which I could see how much of a danger this could be to our society. I was glad to get out of there. I hope when Janet Napolitano starts to monitor the internet that the federal government pays close attention to these VFW places. I heard there are thousands of these hives.

Oh yeah, that’s Walter at top form.

341 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:26:28pm

Later gators.

342 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:27:52pm

re: #339 palomino

Be careful what you wish for. If putting the GOP back in control of Congress comes with the price of making Rand Paul, Sharron Angle, Michelle Bachmann, et al. the face of the “new GOP,” then you’ve got problems.

The return to power will be neither long nor effective. Remember: the new GOP Congress would be the same we had in 2006—minus the moderates, plus the teabaggers. Not a promising equation.

No matter how many seats the Dems might lose, if they can’t unseat Reid I am going to laugh my ass off. I’m so sure Angle will lose that I think I might get myself fit for a girdle so my sides don’t split open.

343 ryannon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:28:18pm

re: #338 JasonA

Ah. Yeah, I got a chuckle out of that one.

I knew Walter was not to be trusted when he insisted that the mewing of a cat picked up by the microphone of the GazaCam at was actually the cry of a seagull.

He’s a very perverse person.

344 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:29:14pm

re: #282 prairiefire

Yes, you are right. He is a silly goose, but with a good heart. I think Dianna was barking mad. I am sorry for her boys.

I think she would have been fine if she’d married someone who didn’t put much pressure on her.

Not a good match, all around.

345 Bagua  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:30:49pm

Oil spill will cause 1 million permanent lost jobs.

This follows the upper figure of the range I estimated here some weeks back of 100,000 to 200,000 jobs in the drilling and direct service business.

The analyst then used an employment multiplier of 4.7 (I have been suggesting 5) to arrive at the 1 million permanent lost jobs.

346 darthstar  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:32:32pm

Happy Father’s day everyone…went to my brother’s house for dinner (mom and dad came down to visit as well)…Brother cooked up a couple of pounds of abalone, and I barbecued a couple of bone-in rib-eyes to complement the Hall Cabernet we brought with us. A good time was had by all.

347 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:32:50pm

re: #343 ryannon

I knew Walter was not to be trusted when he insisted that the mewing of a cat picked up by the microphone of the GazaCam at was actually the cry of a seagull.

He’s a very perverse person.

Hey… heads up… it looks good that the wonderful girlfriend and I will be in your neighborhood in Jan. or Feb., if the Euro keeps down and the Last Day doesn’t happen. I don’t drink or smoke anymore, but I expect a carafe of the strongest coffee you can find…

348 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:33:52pm

re: #329 Nimed

The Hagia Sophia is in Istanbul, which is in (modern) Turkey. But Istanbul is Constantinople (Istanbul was also the ancient Greek city of Byzantium).

Istanbul was Constantinople
Now it’s Istanbul, not Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Now it’s Turkish delight on a moonlit night

Every gal in Constantinople
Lives in Istanbul, not Constantinople
So if you’ve a date in Constantinople
She’ll be waiting in Istanbul

Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
Why they changed it I can’t say
People just liked it better that way

So take me back to Constantinople
No, you can’t go back to Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Why did Constantinople get the works?
That’s nobody’s business but the Turks

Istanbul (Istanbul)
Istanbul (Istanbul)

Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
Why they changed it I can’t say
People just liked it better that way

Istanbul was Constantinople
Now it’s Istanbul, not Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Why did Constantinople get the works?
That’s nobody’s business but the Turks

So take me back to Constantinople
No, you can’t go back to Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Why did Constantinople get the works?
That’s nobody’s business but the Turks

Istanbul

349 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:34:56pm

re: #345 Bagua

Oil spill will cause 1 million permanent lost jobs.

This follows the upper figure of the range I estimated here some weeks back of 100,000 to 200,000 jobs in the drilling and direct service business.

The analyst then used an employment multiplier of 4.7 (I have been suggesting 5) to arrive at the 1 million permanent lost jobs.

At the beach where I live there are probably 20 restaurants in a 3 mile stretch. Say half close because of the spill. Each one has 15 employees. That is 150 people in a 3 mile stretch. this is scary.

350 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:35:01pm

re: #309 Bagua

Take one hop over the pond to Gatwick. Visit London, with a side trip to Stratford upon Avon.

Then take the train to Paris. Enjoy. Then the high speed train down to the Cote de Azur. Drive along the Riviera living large.

Take the train to Florence, then the train to Rome, and another train to Brindisi.

Fly back to the states direct from Israel.
Take ferry to Haifa via Crete.

Take the ferry to Greece and a train to Athens.

Saved this!
Sounds like great plan.

351 Bagua  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:36:36pm

BP to raise $50 billion for oil spill costs

(Reuters) - BP (BP.L) is planning to raise $50 billion to cover the cost of the largest oil spill in U.S. history, London’s Sunday Times reported without citing sources. The paper said BP planned to raise $10 billion from a bond sale, $20 billion from banks and $20 billion from asset sales over the next two years.

The oil major had said last week that it would suspend dividends and increase the pace of asset sales to $10 billion this year.

A spokesman for the group would not confirm any numbers on Sunday, when asked about the Sunday Times report

Note, suspending dividends will cause another institutional sell off, as many funds are required to have the money in dividend producing stocks.

Share price is down to 357.45 pense, and this move removes about 1 out of every 6 pounds in income for British pensioners. The damage to US investors with IRAs, Mutual Funds and Pensions is larger in absolute dollars, but more spread out.

352 ryannon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:37:11pm

re: #347 Walter L. Newton

Hey… heads up… it looks good that the wonderful girlfriend and I will be in your neighborhood in Jan. or Feb., if the Euro keeps down and the Last Day doesn’t happen. I don’t drink or smoke anymore, but I expect a carafe of the strongest coffee you can find…

I’m good for it and am looking forward to seeing you both here. I don’t really see the euro rising too far above the 1.20 - 1.25 range for a while. Of course, you could always book your flight now if you’re certain of the dates, and lock into the current prices….

353 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:37:42pm

re: #351 Bagua

BP to raise $50 billion for oil spill costs

Note, suspending dividends will cause another institutional sell off, as many funds are required to have the money in dividend producing stocks.

Share price is down to 357.45 pense, and this move removes about 1 out of every 6 pounds in income for British pensioners. The damage to US investors with IRAs, Mutual Funds and Pensions is larger in absolute dollars, but more spread out.

Well, in that case. BP should apologize to themselves!

/

354 Bagua  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:38:02pm

re: #350 reine.de.tout

Saved this!
Sounds like great plan.

I can plan out a variety of itineraries for you as you plan further.

355 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:38:56pm

re: #351 Bagua

BP to raise $50 billion for oil spill costs

Note, suspending dividends will cause another institutional sell off, as many funds are required to have the money in dividend producing stocks.

Share price is down to 357.45 pense, and this move removes about 1 out of every 6 pounds in income for British pensioners. The damage to US investors with IRAs, Mutual Funds and Pensions is larger in absolute dollars, but more spread out.

Nasty. That’s going to hit them hard. I feel sorry for the people who are losing money behind this. Still, this fund is the way it must be.

356 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:38:57pm

re: #345 Bagua

Oil spill will cause 1 million permanent lost jobs.

This follows the upper figure of the range I estimated here some weeks back of 100,000 to 200,000 jobs in the drilling and direct service business.

The analyst then used an employment multiplier of 4.7 (I have been suggesting 5) to arrive at the 1 million permanent lost jobs.

Local effect - jobs and timeline.

The oil and gas industry provided more than 50,000 jobs in Louisiana in 2009, including 15,000 in Lafayette, according to the Lafayette Economic Development Authority. Oil workers make up slightly more than 10 percent of the local work force, but an even larger share of earnings, with oil and gas workers earning an average of $2,000 a week.


A study by the Lafayette Economic Development Authority estimates the moratorium could lead to $466.7 million in lost wages and income, delivering an economic impact of $2.4 billion to Lafayette.

The study cautions Lafayette could lose 7,756 jobs in the next year. That would drive unemployment rates above 10 percent, a level not seen since the oil bust of the 1980s.

“I know we can overcome anything, but these numbers are ominous,” said LEDA President Gregg Gothreaux.

“Even if it’s half-correct, it’s going to cause much more damage to our economy than the recent recession did.”

The LEDA study predicts Lafayette will feel an “immediate loss” from the 39 drills that were already in production and forced by the moratorium to stop drilling.

Another 24 wells had been approved to begin drilling, and another 16 were expected to be approved during the next six months.

Each of those wells would have employed about 230 people, the LEDA study estimates. That could lead to a loss of 18,170 direct jobs and 19,404 indirect jobs across the state.

357 Bagua  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:39:15pm

re: #353 Gus 802

Well, in that case. BP should apologize to themselves!

/

Or rather to their investors, which unfortunately are heavily weighted with pensioners in the UK.

358 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:39:35pm

re: #352 ryannon

I’m good for it and am looking forward to seeing you both here. I don’t really see the euro rising too far above the 1.20 - 1.25 range for a while. Of course, you could always book your flight now if you’re certain of the dates, and lock into the current prices…

We probably will be doing that soon enough.

359 freetoken  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:41:12pm

re: #348 SanFranciscoZionist

Istanbul was Constantinople

Heh, tell that to the Byzantionites!

360 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:43:29pm

When having watched this on YouTube, I curiously clicked on what was obviously a response by Alex Jones. After a few minutes I had to stop. I could not stand the screeching rambling and ranting anymore…

361 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:44:29pm

re: #360 000G

When having watched this on YouTube, I curiously clicked on what was obviously a response by Alex Jones. After a few minutes I had to stop. I could not stand the screeching rambling and ranting anymore…

Anything worthy of note or way it just mindless?

362 Bagua  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:45:47pm

re: #347 Walter L. Newton

Hey… heads up… it looks good that the wonderful girlfriend and I will be in your neighborhood in Jan. or Feb., if the Euro keeps down and the Last Day doesn’t happen. I don’t drink or smoke anymore, but I expect a carafe of the strongest coffee you can find…

Please keep me informed of the travel plans for the Paris Lizard Convention.

363 ryannon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:46:11pm

Speaking of Byzantium, a poem by W.B. Yeats - and the origin of the title of the book that inspired the Coen Brothers film:


Sailing to Byzantium

THAT is no country for old men. The young
In one another’s arms, birds in the trees
- Those dying generations - at their song,
The salmon-falls, the mackerel-crowded seas,
Fish, flesh, or fowl, commend all summer long
Whatever is begotten, born, and dies.
Caught in that sensual music all neglect
Monuments of unageing intellect.

An aged man is but a paltry thing,
A tattered coat upon a stick, unless
Soul clap its hands and sing, and louder sing
For every tatter in its mortal dress,
Nor is there singing school but studying
Monuments of its own magnificence;
And therefore I have sailed the seas and come
To the holy city of Byzantium.

O sages standing in God’s holy fire
As in the gold mosaic of a wall,
Come from the holy fire, perne in a gyre,
And be the singing-masters of my soul.
Consume my heart away; sick with desire
And fastened to a dying animal
It knows not what it is; and gather me
Into the artifice of eternity.

Once out of nature I shall never take
My bodily form from any natural thing,
But such a form as Grecian goldsmiths make
Of hammered gold and gold enamelling
To keep a drowsy Emperor awake;
Or set upon a golden bough to sing
To lords and ladies of Byzantium
Of what is past, or passing, or to come.

364 Nimed  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:46:56pm

re: #339 palomino

Be careful what you wish for. If putting the GOP back in control of Congress comes with the price of making Rand Paul, Sharron Angle, Michelle Bachmann, et al. the face of the “new GOP,” then you’ve got problems.

The return to power will be neither long nor effective. Remember: the new GOP Congress would be the same we had in 2006—minus the moderates, plus the teabaggers. Not a promising equation.

Both GOP politicians and supports dare not look past November because they have no idea what they want the GOP to do once it regains power.

Personally, I confess I’m feeling a lot like Gus. Not much more can be done about unemployment, which is going down at a glacial pace. The Dems managed to pass HCR which, while better than the status quo, is still deeply flawed — and neither party will have the political courage to do the necessary reforms in the next 3 years (at least, my best guess would be the next 7 years). Repealing the bill is a Republican fantasy that will quickly become a nightmare if there is any serious attempt to do it. Climate change legislation will not be passed no matter what happens in November. Same thing for card check and pretty much all the rest of this Administration’s political agenda.

Very little is at stake in November save the jobs of each party’s congressmen.

365 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:47:08pm

re: #362 Bagua

Please keep me informed of the travel plans for the Paris Lizard Convention.

Sure… it would be a blast to all meet… we have some Brit Lizards that may be able to take a channel hop over too!

366 ryannon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:49:04pm

re: #362 Bagua

Please keep me informed of the travel plans for the Paris Lizard Convention.

It would be great if you could make it over here as well!

367 Nimed  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:49:46pm

re: #348 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, SanFraZ. You’re my LGF giant.

368 freetoken  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:50:21pm

re: #361 Dark_Falcon

Anything worthy of note or way it just mindless?

I checked out a few minutes of it… just the normal nut-defense.

369 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:51:23pm

re: #357 Bagua

Or rather to their investors, which unfortunately are heavily weighted with pensioners in the UK.

Yes, but they made the decision to up the ante on their own. Up to 50 billion from what was 20 billion — the latter of which I will assume was their first offer. They’re already stating they can carry 10 billion from a bond sale. At the same time they’re still generating revenue around the world which has reached almost 25 billion in pre-tax income. The 50 billion will be considered a loss.

370 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:53:31pm

Good night, Honcos.

371 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:54:00pm

Night… the supermarket scheduled all my hours for this week on this past weekend and next weekend, so I have Monday-Thursday off, don’t go back until 2:00 pm Friday… so, I’ll have some time this week to hang around here between working some stones and crafting some jewelry… I also have some programming to do for Kaiser this week, which is handy since I have so many free days.

See you all in the AM…

372 freetoken  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:56:04pm

re: #369 Gus 802

I’m not sure why BP now is going with the 50 billion figure. It’s hard to second guess what goes on in that board room. My suspicion is that this is a sort of Hail Mary play - they’re hoping that one of two things will come out of this: 1. buy them breathing room in the feeding-frenzy melange that politicians/pundits are going, and/or 2. give them an out tax wise, where ever they are taxed, as this is one hell of an expense and consolidating it will make the write-off methods tractable.

373 freetoken  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:57:00pm

re: #372 freetoken

politicians/pundits are going, and/or

“doing”

374 andres  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 9:59:45pm

This is one of the things that struck me the most on my visit to the Sixth Floor Museum, the parallels between current rhetoric and then.

/shudder

375 Political Atheist  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:01:12pm

re: #90 Stanley Sea

Just back…. Sunset was awful but we managed to get these.

376 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:01:39pm

re: #372 freetoken

I’m not sure why BP now is going with the 50 billion figure. It’s hard to second guess what goes on in that board room. My suspicion is that this is a sort of Hail Mary play - they’re hoping that one of two things will come out of this: 1. buy them breathing room in the feeding-frenzy melange that politicians/pundits are going, and/or 2. give them an out tax wise, where ever they are taxed, as this is one hell of an expense and consolidating it will make the write-off methods tractable.

I’d lean towards number 2. At the same time this also minimizes the courts and legal wrangling which would only prolong the negative publicity. It can actually be a win-win situation for BP if they play it right. I never checked but “where ever they are taxed” sounds about right.

That being said the final act will be the relief wells. If those don’t work that will be a major game changer and it won’t bode well for BP.

377 blueraven  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:03:01pm

re: #270 Dark_Falcon

Yet the Dems will still blame the GOP. The reality is that most people simply don’t want any more bad stimulus debt.

Not true, according to this recent Gallup poll.
60 percent favor more stimulus money to create jobs

gallup.com

378 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:03:14pm

Heh. Check out the towercam. LA looks like it’s on fire.

astro.ucla.edu

379 ryannon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:04:43pm

re: #378 JasonA

Heh. Check out the towercam. LA looks like it’s on fire.

[Link: www.astro.ucla.edu…]

That’s my favorite TowerCam view. It’s amazing.

380 Political Atheist  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:05:17pm

re: #379 ryannon

I just saw LA from Griffith. Beautiful evening.

381 freetoken  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:06:07pm

re: #376 Gus 802

I’d lean towards number 2. At the same time this also minimizes the courts and legal wrangling which would only prolong the negative publicity.

For a corporation, what could be worse than a gigantic liability? A: an unlimited liability.

My suspicion is that BP is hoping that going with a gigantic clean up fund will help them find legal space in America, maybe even written into law, and we certainly know that BP has friends in Congress.

382 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:07:09pm

re: #378 JasonA

Heh. Check out the towercam. LA looks like it’s on fire.

[Link: www.astro.ucla.edu…]

Interesting poll. They seem to approve of what one would call a Dem agenda except on health care reform repeal.

383 Bagua  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:07:21pm

re: #372 freetoken

They also need cash to operate, and cash to stave off the vultures. They will need to restore investor confidence and prove they can cover any damage and continue generating new income.

At 357.45p and $31.76 their market capitalisation is down over $150 billion. Clearly they want to establish some support short of a complete collapse.

384 ryannon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:07:27pm

re: #380 Rightwingconspirator

I just saw LA from Griffith. Beautiful evening.

I love L.A. And the smell of the vegetation in the evening up in the hills….

385 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:08:15pm

re: #382 Gus 802

Interesting poll. They seem to approve of what one would call a Dem agenda except on health care reform repeal.

?

386 ryannon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:09:04pm

re: #384 ryannon

I love L.A. And the smell heady perfume of the vegetation in the evening up in the hills…

fixed.

387 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:09:54pm

re: #385 JasonA

?

From this:

Image: 3yy5mvicvu61obi2xsksxg.gif

Positive numbers on regulating the financial industry. Positive numbers on energy regulation. Positive numbers on stimulus spending. None of which is supported by the House and Senate GOP.

388 Bagua  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:10:00pm

re: #384 ryannon

I love L.A. And the smell of the vegetation burning in the evening up in the hills…

Fixed.

389 Political Atheist  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:10:03pm

re: #384 ryannon

Right now sage is in the air. And drying grasses. For all people like to knock it, I love my hometown.

390 Political Atheist  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:10:47pm

re: #388 Bagua

Ouch. Yeah we get our fires. Thanks for stopping by the latest page entry BTW. Appreciate it.

391 Racer X  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:12:02pm

re: #384 ryannon

I love L.A. And the smell of the vegetation in the evening up in the hills…

Me too.

Those who don’t know, don’t know.

392 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:13:24pm

re: #387 Gus 802

From this:

Image: 3yy5mvicvu61obi2xsksxg.gif

Positive numbers on regulating the financial industry. Positive numbers on energy regulation. Positive numbers on stimulus spending. None of which is supported by the House and Senate GOP.

Oh. You were replying to Blue. :P

393 Authoritarian F*ckpuddles  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:13:45pm

Gary Byrd and the GB experience: We Wear The Crown

Youtube Video

394 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:13:58pm

re: #392 JasonA

Oh. You were replying to Blue. :P

Woops! You’re right.

lol

395 Gus  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:14:40pm

re: #384 ryannon

I love L.A. And the smell of the vegetation in the evening up in the hills…

Youtube Video

396 ryannon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:15:41pm

re: #389 Rightwingconspirator

Right now sage is in the air. And drying grasses. For all people like to knock it, I love my hometown.

No place quite like it. I used to live up on the flank of the Hollywood Bowl - the only area accessed by a private elevator. It was Old Hollywood, quite hidden, secret and haunted when I was there….

397 Political Atheist  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:21:41pm

re: #396 ryannon

That is really cool. Heh. I grew up in the west valley. I’ll be showcasing local stuff as I practice the art. I’d love to get back up there in those old homes or shoot the bowl from an architecture perspective. Beats Disney Hall IMHO!

398 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:21:43pm

re: #389 Rightwingconspirator

Right now sage is in the air. And drying grasses. For all people like to knock it, I love my hometown.

Southern California smells like nothing else in the world. Truly amazing.

399 ryannon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:23:47pm

re: #397 Rightwingconspirator

That is really cool. Heh. I grew up in the west valley. I’ll be showcasing local stuff as I practice the art. I’d love to get back up there in those old homes or shoot the bowl from an architecture perspective. Beats Disney Hall IMHO!

Here’s an Art Deco beauty for you: I used to live on the first floor!

400 palomino  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:24:12pm

re: #364 Nimed

Personally, I confess I’m feeling a lot like Gus. Not much more can be done about unemployment, which is going down at a glacial pace. The Dems managed to pass HCR which, while better than the status quo, is still deeply flawed — and neither party will have the political courage to do the necessary reforms in the next 3 years (at least, my best guess would be the next 7 years). Repealing the bill is a Republican fantasy that will quickly become a nightmare if there is any serious attempt to do it. Climate change legislation will not be passed no matter what happens in November. Same thing for card check and pretty much all the rest of this Administration’s political agenda.

Very little is at stake in November save the jobs of each party’s congressmen.

I think HCR is safe. The drumbeat of “Repeal!” is a good campaign slogan in some places, but the bill was never as unpopular as advertised. Not really good numbers, but not the “overwhelming majorities of Americans oppose HCR” that we were repeatedly told by the right.

Without HCR, this Dem Congress would have been a huge disappointment. But the GOP obstructionists aren’t really the main obstacle to the rest of Obama’s agenda. It’s the diversity of the Dem caucus. Moderate/conservative Dems from the South and Midwest just don’t agree with liberals on the coasts about much, so getting things passed is nearly impossible. The GOP rarely has such internal friction.

Maybe the finance bill won’t suck, but it seems about a year late. Shouldn’t there have been an urgency in the middle of the Great Recession to pass financial reform?

401 Irenicum  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:24:32pm

I just got done watching by far my favorite Twilight Zone episode ever: an episode featuring the recently departed Dennis Hopper as a nascent neo-nazi guided by the primordial evil of Hitler himself. The episode was from nearly fifty years ago and yet rings true to this day. Watching it was eerily familiar to so much of what I’m seeing nowadays. So many of his talking points are espoused right now. Rod Serling was truly a prophet of the human condition. I wish he was wrong. I really do. Why do we have to be this way? Never again has never been so prescient.

402 Political Atheist  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:26:02pm

re: #398 SanFranciscoZionist

Right now a fun thing is drive up a canyon and park at a fire road. Walk up the fire road. A study in vistas and native plants. And recovering landscape in burn areas. Most of that is closed but I have access to private property that burned. Way back Little Tujunga Canyon.

403 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:28:12pm

re: #398 SanFranciscoZionist

Southern California smells like nothing else in the world. Truly amazing.

Neither does Jersey.

404 Political Atheist  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:30:37pm

re: #399 ryannon

Oh yes exactly like that. Great stuff. Curves, ships rail, and lots of glass. What is the tower on the left?

405 Political Atheist  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:32:50pm

re: #399 ryannon

re: #398 SanFranciscoZionist

Downtown a couple years ago… Around Pershing Square.

406 ryannon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:35:00pm

re: #404 Rightwingconspirator

Oh yes exactly like that. Great stuff. Curves, ships rail, and lots of glass. What is the tower on the left?

That’s the private elevator I posted about above. It’s Old Hollywood up there - except that now it’s been yupified. When I was there, you could practically see the ghosts of the silent stars on foggy nights. Here’s a link to a blog that talks about it:

la-la-land.net

407 ryannon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:40:14pm

re: #405 Rightwingconspirator

re: #398 SanFranciscoZionist

Downtown a couple years ago… Around Pershing Square.

It’s all totally different now. I like the Natural Frame shot: it looks like a hand-colored postcard from way back….

408 ryannon  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:44:17pm

Off to the Overnight Thread….

409 Political Atheist  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 10:44:40pm

re: #407 ryannon

Thanks, I want to get back to Jalama beach. The long road to it is the cool part. Not far from Vandenberg. Well work comes early, going to knock out for the night.

410 AlexRogan  Sun, Jun 20, 2010 11:04:39pm

re: #396 ryannon

No place quite like it. I used to live up on the flank of the Hollywood Bowl - the only area accessed by a private elevator. It was Old Hollywood, quite hidden, secret and haunted when I was there…

Am I mistaken or is that elevator and the house beside it used in The Long Goodbye with Elliot Gould? It looks familiar…

411 ClaudeMonet  Mon, Jun 21, 2010 12:21:19am

re: #333 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Get no respect. No respect at all!

Perhaps you don’t deserve any respect, Rodney.

re: #348 SanFranciscoZionist

I’m glad someone got the reference. Dumb song, but I love it.

re: #374 andres

This is one of the things that struck me the most on my visit to the Sixth Floor Museum, the parallels between current rhetoric and then.

/shudder

It happens in every Administration.

re: #384 ryannon

I love L.A. And the smell of the vegetation in the evening up in the hills…

I love the smell of napalm in the morning. Reminds me of…victory.re: #404 Rightwingconspirator

Oh yes exactly like that. Great stuff. Curves, ships rail, and lots of glass. What is the tower on the left?

The closest casino to my place is called the Hollywood. It has some great pictures of Old Hollywood on the walls. Unfortunately, that’s about the only thing they got right. Terrible acoustics, terrible temperature control, no easily-seen traffic patterns in the playing areas, etc. It replaced a smaller casino on the same site that had little ambiance but was comfortable. Progress!

412 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Jun 21, 2010 3:07:29am

re: #361 Dark_Falcon

Anything worthy of note or way it just mindless?

Jones ranted about Matthews being MSM and having a lot less of an audience than himself, put up the straw-man that Matthews had accused the anti-healthcare-reform movement of being racist, etc…

I dunno, check out the drivel yourself:

Youtube Video

413 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Jun 21, 2010 3:20:32am

Watching more of this, it gets a lot worse. He starts of with making fun of a (british?) woman from NBC who came over to do a pre-interview (?) and apparently was shocked over there laying a gun around in Jones’ studio, then segues into making fun of holocaust victims for looking subservient to their executioners on film…

Ugly, ugly human being.

414 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:20:45am

re: #413 000G

Alex Jones is an absolutely loathsome human being. And he’s becoming very influential on the right wing. For example, Drudge Report now has a permanent link to Jones’s site infowars.com.

And at least 50% of the silly outrageous outrages that pour out of the right wing originate with Alex Jones or one of his cronies.

415 ReamWorks SKG  Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:01:05am

My personal stories about encounters with the “new right”.

I wanted to start a local neighborhood group to oppose a Poll Tax that the Cupertino High School District got on the ballot.

I tried to find some like-minded people and stated our clear mission. “Our agenda is to oppose this poll tax. Our group shall have no opinion on any other issue.”

I was unable to find anyone else who was willing to agree to these terms Sure they “agreed” to begin with, but soon our mailing list was littered with diatribes about “birther conspiracies”, arguments against same-sex marriage, etc. I closed down our website and our mailing list after this started.

In the end, I battled this issue by myself; taking legal action against the school board for illegally using taxpayer dollars to campaign for the poll tax. (It ended in them stopping the illegal activity, but the state AG was unwilling to prosecute them.)

416 ReamWorks SKG  Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:09:33am

I’d love to know how many of the people at these “Tea Parties” actually pay in more to the government than they take.

US Budget / US Population = $9650

wolframalpha.com

So any family of 4 that’s not paying $38,600 in federal taxes has a hard time, IMHO, complaining about high taxes, unless they explicitly trying to make taxation more fair for everyone.


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