Allahpundit Spins Judge Napolitano’s Defense of BP As Napolitano Appears on Alex Jones Show

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At right wing site Hot Air, token atheist Allahpundit tries his best to spin an appearance on Fox News by Judge Andrew Napolitano, in which Napolitano defends BP: Shep to Napolitano: You’re grossing me out by defending BP.

He’s not really defending BP, actually, just noting that between the liability cap and the feds’ regulatory scheme for drilling, safety incentives for oil companies are, shall we say, sub-optimal.

Right! Napolitano is one nuanced extremist, all right.

Meanwhile, as Allahpundit was trying to launder this wacko’s statements for his wingnut audience today, Napolitano was appearing on the show of 9/11 Truther and antisemitic conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, talking about impeaching President Obama.

Youtube Video

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311 comments
1 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:14:31pm

The first comment for the Alex Jones video at YouTube:

I see a French style revolution at hand. With alot of blood and hangings in front of the capital steps.

2 What, me worry?  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:15:45pm

My goodness, how many wacko conspiracy theories can you pack into one sentence??

3 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:19:13pm

It can’t be Hot Air/Salem Communications without the requisite homophobic and sexist commentary:

Shep is a sissy. Get you emotions in check. That dude loves to get the vapors.
Ampersand on June 24, 2010 at 7:34 PM

Shep Smith = Nancy Grace
DramaQueeeeens.
portlandon on June 24, 2010 at 7:46 PM

Somebody PLEASE change Shep’s tampon.
I don’t always agree with the Judge, but he argues with FACTS and the LAW…Shep argues with his FEELINGS…he hasn’t been right since Katrina.
HornetSting on June 24, 2010 at 7:52 PM

I saw this live. Shep never met a Democratic politician who left with a dry a$$.
BKeyser on June 24, 2010 at 7:55 PM

Girly Man.
HornetSting on June 24, 2010 at 7:58 PM

Shep is Fox’s resident metrosexual.
GarandFan on June 24, 2010 at 8:42 PM

Shep would be grossed out by a naked woman in Penthouse. That’s just Shep.
keep the change on June 24, 2010 at 10:45 PM

Fox has really turned into a pile. The list of unwatchable shows grows every year. F & F, Shepina (2 hours!) and Ted Baxter- all are awful.
Maybe Rupert can start doing illegal alien amnesty shows since he’s so keen on it now.
jjshaka on June 24, 2010 at 10:45 PM

4 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:22:14pm

Shep is the one voice on Fox I can actually bear to listen to.

5 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:23:43pm

re: #1 Charles

“Videogameguru” says

We need to wake up, the US government is now no different then Nazi Germany taking your guns away and filtering you information so you become a docile sheep that is a slave for the global elite’s and cant think for yourself; Do you want this to become of the great human race.

Yep. Never you mind the SCOTUS’s recent clarification of the 2nd amendment, the govt is taking our guns away and making us sheep. Got it.

The good news, if there is any, is that “videogameguru” is probably not stepping out of mommy’s basement anytime soon…

6 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:24:17pm

re: #1 Charles

The first comment for the Alex Jones video at YouTube:

Anyone who seeks an event like that is a monster. Revolutions kill and they should not be sought while non-drastic means are available to curb injustice. Of course, I don’t actually think Obama is being unjust; he is simply wrong politically in my eyes and that is solely a matter for voting and the political process.

7 RadicalModerate  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:25:51pm

You know, if you view the clip on Youtube, Napolitano and Jones make a lot more sense if you click on the little soccer-ball next to the close-captioning button.

8 Steffan  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:28:26pm

Here’s something much more worth looking at. Think of it as brain bleach.

Christian Science Monitor: Space Photos of the Day.

I especially like the first two shots: N49 and the Carina Nebula. Wow.

9 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:28:41pm

Fox News and Alex Jones are now joined at the hip. They have the same guests on the same day.

It won’t be long before Alex Jones himself is a Fox contributor.

10 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:31:01pm

My hope and prayer is that the anonymity of the web exacerbates this kind of extremist commentary, giving people (I use that term loosely) a sense of freedom to say the most outlandish things, but with the vast majority never actually acting on their bizarre verbiage. Sadly, the advent of the online world I think may actually make that possibility more likely, the acting out part that is, with the sub-grouping and cocooning we see more and more. No culture is ever completely immune to our darker impulses. Once again, please make friends with those who disagree with you. It’s good for you and good for them.

11 Jimmah  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:31:03pm

It’s time to roll out the new GOP campaign video :

Youtube Video
12 laZardo  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:31:51pm

re: #1 Charles

Conservatism is a beautiful thing.

/spit

13 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:33:11pm

What I like most about Shep, besides his cool twang, is that he wears his humanity on his sleeve. I know I’m watching a real person and not some factory produced cardboard cutout like everyone else on Fox.

14 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:34:29pm

re: #11 Jimmah

it beats demon sheep/

15 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:35:11pm

re: #12 laZardo

That’s not conservatism. It’s a radical Jacobin instinct for blood. Read some Edmund Burke if you want to see a reasonable reaction to the French and American revolutions.

16 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:36:12pm

re: #11 Jimmah

I do NOT want to know how you found that!
LOL!

17 b_sharp  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:37:08pm

re: #14 Aceofwhat?

it beats demon sheep/



Black Sheep

18 laZardo  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:38:17pm

re: #15 Irenicum

That’s not conservatism. It’s a radical Jacobin instinct for blood.

Which is what mainstream conservatism has apparently come to in the United States. By contrast, you only hear these sort of things from the left’s fringe, not the whole of them in general.

19 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:39:46pm

re: #17 b_sharp


Black Sheep

wow, i forgot about that movie…was it any good? i had wanted to see it when i saw the trailer a few years ago, but forgot about it.

20 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:40:34pm

good night good folks

21 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:42:08pm

This was just posted on Twitter, in #tcot: Why are flies always attracted to Obama?

Maybe it’s the smell emitting from Obama’s mouth that always attracts those flies (and vermin).

22 laZardo  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:42:56pm

Posted a new LGF page about a certain war anniversary coming up…

23 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:43:15pm

re: #18 laZardo

Which is what mainstream conservatism has apparently come to in the United States. By contrast, you only hear these sort of things from the left’s fringe, not the whole of them in general.

That’s still not the conservative mainstream, as the great majority of conservatives do not want any sort of violence.

24 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:43:31pm

re: #18 laZardo

I agree with you there (though I’m sure our more conservative friends here would beg to differ). Modern American conservatism is definitely going though its crazy uncle phase.

25 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:44:17pm

re: #21 Charles

This was just posted on Twitter, in #tcot: Why are flies always attracted to Obama?

Jeeze. That feed is just a sewer pipe.

26 laZardo  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:45:31pm

re: #23 Dark_Falcon

That’s still not the conservative mainstream, as the great majority of conservatives do not want any sort of violence.

Then why is this sort of thing the only thing we’re hearing out of conservative outlets? This isn’t just a loud minority if they were able to get Rand Paul elected.

27 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:45:56pm

re: #25 Dark_Falcon

That’s why I don’t read it. I don’t need to be any more neurotic than I already am.

28 iceweasel  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:45:56pm

re: #11 Jimmah

It’s time to roll out the new GOP campaign video :


[Video]

I get the feeling the GOP 2012 convention is going to look a lot like this:

Youtube Video
29 Racer X  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:46:30pm

re: #9 Charles

Fox News and Alex Jones are now joined at the hip. They have the same guests on the same day.

It won’t be long before Alex Jones himself is a Fox contributor.

You’re killing me, Larry!

30 Stanghazi  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:48:20pm

re: #21 Charles

This was just posted on Twitter, in #tcot: Why are flies always attracted to Obama?

tcot = cesspool

31 Stanghazi  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:49:30pm

re: #29 Racer X

You’re killing me, Larry!

Only a SoCal knows the reference? !!

32 freetoken  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:49:35pm

OT

Down south in the east Pacific, Hurricane Celia has hit cat 5 strength. Beautiful sat image from tonight, right before sunset.

33 laZardo  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:50:13pm

re: #31 Stanley Sea

Only a SoCal knows the reference? !!

Like, DUH!

34 b_sharp  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:52:04pm

re: #19 Aceofwhat?

wow, i forgot about that movie…was it any good? i had wanted to see it when i saw the trailer a few years ago, but forgot about it.

It was absolutely ridiculous and hilariously funny. It satirizes bad horror precisely.

35 Lidane  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:53:38pm

re: #4 Irenicum

Shep is the one voice on Fox I can actually bear to listen to.

Shep’s a Southern boy, born and raised in Mississippi. He’s probably more pissed off about the BP disaster and all the GOP apologies and excuses than he ever was about Katrina. I’m not surprised he wasn’t buying the bullshit that Napolitano was selling.

Also, the fact that Fox News is treating Alex Jones like a serious thinker instead of the raving conspiracy crank that he is should make anyone with a functional IQ over 100 change the channel, or find another news source. I can’t believe that he’s gained any legitimacy at all.

36 b_sharp  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:53:45pm

re: #23 Dark_Falcon

That’s still not the conservative mainstream, as the great majority of conservatives do not want any sort of violence.

The problem D_F is that the mainstream conservatives have remained silent while the whacko extreme speaks extra loudly.

37 Political Atheist  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:54:06pm

re: #32 freetoken

Hurricane Nautilus… Classic Fibonacci look to it!

38 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:54:09pm

re: #28 iceweasel

That’s a harrowing video.

39 laZardo  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:54:37pm

re: #33 laZardo

Like, DUH!

PIMF meant to bold the quote, not strike it out. Like, my bad.

40 Political Atheist  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:55:39pm

re: #36 b_sharp

It’s time the street level moderates started stepping up. Show some spine. Moderate is not to be confused with weak. Patient maybe, not weak, not unwilling.

41 iceweasel  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:56:28pm

re: #38 Irenicum

That’s a harrowing video.

isn’t it? The whole movie is classic, but that to me is one of the best bits. I might have to dig out the DVD tonight.

42 b_sharp  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:56:53pm

re: #40 Rightwingconspirator

It’s time the street level moderates started stepping up. Show some spine. Moderate is not to be confused with weak. Patient maybe, not weak, not unwilling.

Intelligently, rationally reasonable.

43 bratwurst  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:57:13pm

re: #36 b_sharp

The problem D_F is that the mainstream conservatives have remained silent while the whacko extreme speaks extra loudly.

Or the ones who don’t remain silent end up kissing Rush Limbaugh’s ring a few days later.

44 Mich-again  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:58:10pm

Its like the GOP is a bus with no brakes careening down a mountain pass at 80 mph and the driver is smoking a joint. Time to jump out.

45 b_sharp  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:58:48pm

re: #43 bratwurst

Or the ones who don’t remain silent end up kissing Rush Limbaugh’s ring a few days later.

That the same finger Rush picks his ass with?

46 Jimmah  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:59:31pm

re: #16 Floral Giraffe

I do NOT want to know how you found that!
LOL!

70’s tv. I have access to much more. Some of it even scares me. For example this:

Youtube Video
47 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:59:36pm

re: #32 freetoken

OT

Down south in the east Pacific, Hurricane Celia has hit cat 5 strength. Beautiful sat image from tonight, right before sunset.

Beautiful!

48 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:00:10pm

re: #41 iceweasel

What scares me in watching it is how we as humans are always so prone to give ourselves in to this kind of thinking and behavior. Watching it reminded me of the works of Rod Serling (I’ve been watching episodes of his lately). He could have directed that whole scene word for word, image for image. He knew the threat and constantly spoke out against it with every ounce of his being.

49 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:00:48pm

re: #43 bratwurst

Or the ones who don’t remain silent end up kissing Rush Limbaugh’s ring a few days later.

Also include Glenn Beck. Look at what happened to Bob Inglis who lost the election in a landslide. Some are saying one of the reasons was that he said “turn off Glenn Beck.”

50 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:01:22pm

re: #44 Mich-again

Except they wouldn’t legalize pot. But in every other respect I agree with your image.

51 freetoken  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:01:30pm

re: #47 reine.de.tout

BTW, not sure you’ve been keeping tabs, but 93L has a 60% chance of developing into a tropical depression. If it does make it that far it may recurve north in the GoM.

52 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:01:46pm

As another token atheist, I find AP’s defense of this idiot to be an insult to all good token atheist.

53 laZardo  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:02:31pm

re: #52 Walter L. Newton

implying you’re the token atheist

Paging Killgore…

54 Surabaya Stew  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:03:48pm

All the exhortations decrying the “extremists” of the GOP/conservatives, and asking for the “moderates” to stand up to them sound just like those asking the “moderate” muslims to stand up to the salifists/jihadis. Not going to happen in either case until the extremists make a total mess out of everything their politics/religion supposedly stand for.

55 What, me worry?  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:04:25pm

re: #46 Jimmah

I don’t know if you ever saw any HR Puffinstuff. I loved it. Jack Wild (Artful Dodger) was the host. He was a boy still then.

Anyway HR Puffinstuff was a Sid and Marty Kroft creation and they did some trippy stuff. I was maybe 10, 12? It was great.

Youtube Video
56 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:04:46pm

re: #26 laZardo

Then why is this sort of thing the only thing we’re hearing out of conservative outlets? This isn’t just a loud minority if they were able to get Rand Paul elected.

Here’s something that runs counter to what Luap Dnar says:

The Right’s Civil Wrongs

Civil rights are a problem for the American Right: a political problem, an intellectual one, a moral one. In the civil-rights debates of the 1950s and 1960s, many conservatives — including William F. Buckley Jr., other figures associated with this magazine, and Sen. Barry Goldwater — took positions that the vast majority of conservatives now reject. Most contemporary conservatives who know this history regret it and find it embarrassing.

In some cases these conservative positions were motivated by straightforward support for an official policy of white supremacy, or by a desire to enlist segregationist southern Democrats in the burgeoning conservative movement. But some people held these positions while also sincerely wishing for segregation to end. They believed that their conservative principles — principles that do not on their face entail hostility to blacks — compelled opposition to the civil-rights movement’s platform. Most critics place Goldwater in this group.

Please read this article, it’s very good.

57 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:04:55pm

Billionaires for BP!

/

58 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:05:03pm

re: #34 b_sharp

It was absolutely ridiculous and hilariously funny. It satirizes bad horror precisely.

Speaking of horror and satire, check out this trailer:

Youtube Video
59 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:06:32pm

re: #46 Jimmah

Speaking of the Clash, this is my favorite song of theirs: Lost in a Supermarket.

Youtube Video
60 b_sharp  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:07:05pm

It’s long been a dream of mine that all atheists are completely rational and everyone will drop religion in favour of that rationality. Sometimes its hard to wake up to the nightmare of reality.

Why is reality so god-damned messy?

61 Mich-again  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:08:14pm

re: #50 Irenicum

Except they wouldn’t legalize pot. But in every other respect I agree with your image.

Rules are for other people!

62 laZardo  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:09:17pm

re: #60 b_sharp

It’s long been a dream of mine that all atheists are completely rational and everyone will drop religion in favour of that rationality. Sometimes its hard to wake up to the nightmare of reality.

Why is reality so god-damned messy?

Becuase people that have dreams like that get killed.

/HEYOOO

63 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:09:20pm

re: #53 laZardo

Paging Killgore…

I didn’t say I was the LGF token atheist, did I? If Killgore wants that title, more power to him. I said as “a token atheist.”

64 Mich-again  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:09:36pm

re: #55 marjoriemoon
I’m old enough to remember HR Puffinstuff on Saturday morning. Right before the Hudson Brothers I think.

65 Political Atheist  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:10:05pm

re: #41 iceweasel

I hope you saw DL’s break with the GOP today. Jobs bill thread. She had stuck with it hoping to wait out the insanity, I had bailed a couple years ago. For her this was big. The discussions we would have! Anyway we are both now at heart post wing “sensible” conservatives. She’ll make hersd official shortly.

Now this leaves us in agreement with many, and disagreement with plenty around here. What this also does is present the voting booth dilemma- Are we willing to walk away from two unsuitable candidates in the general? Brave enough to walk away from a senate vote or governors vote entirely? If and when neither can meet our minimum standards to get the vote we withhold the vote.

66 What, me worry?  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:10:21pm

re: #64 Mich-again

I’m old enough to remember HR Puffinstuff on Saturday morning. Right before the Hudson Brothers I think.

OMG The Hudson Brothers and the Island of Peegee Peegee!

67 b_sharp  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:10:58pm

re: #58 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Speaking of horror and satire, check out this trailer:


[Video]

That one just got put on my list.

68 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:11:41pm

re: #60 b_sharp

It’s long been a dream of mine that all atheists are completely rational and everyone will drop religion in favour of that rationality. Sometimes its hard to wake up to the nightmare of reality.

Why is reality so god-damned messy?

Because people are not rational, and world in which they were completely rational would be a nightmare for me. I wouldn’t even be the same person.

69 Surabaya Stew  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:11:53pm

re: #60 b_sharp

It’s long been a dream of mine that all atheists are completely rational and everyone will drop religion in favour of that rationality. Sometimes its hard to wake up to the nightmare of reality.

Why is reality so god-damned messy?

Just when one thinks he is no longer with us, all of a sudden there he is again!

70 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:12:09pm

re: #64 Mich-again

I’m old enough to remember HR Puffinstuff on Saturday morning. Right before the Hudson Brothers I think.

I remember seeing it (and other Kroft shows) after school. Land of the Lost was probably my favorite.

71 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:12:10pm

I’m watching the C-Span Obama / Medvedev press conference right now, and the guy who’s translating for Medvedev has a voice that sounds a little too much like JOSHUA.

72 Boogberg  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:12:40pm

re: #64 Mich-again

I’m old enough to remember HR Puffinstuff on Saturday morning. Right before the Hudson Brothers I think.

Land of the Lost, baby! :D

73 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:12:47pm

re: #55 marjoriemoon

I remember watching that too. Definitely trippy. My brothers and sisters loved watching another kids starring Soupy Sales. He got in trouble and got kicked off, but came back on later. A friend of mine was a cameraman on the show and had some pretty wild stories to tell involving strippers.

74 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:12:47pm

re: #69 Surabaya Stew

Just when one thinks he is no longer with us, all of a sudden there he is again!

I thought your links were going to be about Michael Jackson.

75 swamprat  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:13:09pm

What’s this about tokin’ Atheists?

76 Racer X  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:13:11pm

re: #60 b_sharp

It’s long been a dream of mine that all atheists are completely rational and everyone will drop religion in favour of that rationality. Sometimes its hard to wake up to the nightmare of reality.

Why is reality so god-damned messy?

Hmm…

Some people need to take spirituality to the next level, and they embrace religion as the conduit. Thats OK with me as long as they live by the golden rule and don’t harp on those who believe differently than they do.

77 Mich-again  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:13:14pm

re: #66 marjoriemoon

OMG The Hudson Brothers and the Island of Peegee Peegee!


Another boring day… on the Island of Peegee Peegee..

78 Political Atheist  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:13:26pm

re: #63 Walter L. Newton

Neither one of you are a “token” anything. :)
Leave the tokin’ to the smokers.

79 b_sharp  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:13:32pm

re: #62 laZardo

Becuase people that have dreams like that get killed.

/HEYOOO

Time to get my head out of my ass I guess.

80 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:13:55pm

re: #65 Rightwingconspirator

I hope you saw DL’s break with the GOP today. Jobs bill thread. She had stuck with it hoping to wait out the insanity, I had bailed a couple years ago. For her this was big. The discussions we would have! Anyway we are both now at heart post wing “sensible” conservatives. She’ll make hersd official shortly.

Now this leaves us in agreement with many, and disagreement with plenty around here. What this also does is present the voting booth dilemma- Are we willing to walk away from two unsuitable candidates in the general? Brave enough to walk away from a senate vote or governors vote entirely? If and when neither can meet our minimum standards to get the vote we withhold the vote.

You and DL are not going to win any points calling yourself “sensible conservatives.” You’ll still be considered right wing. They want your whole soul, all the way to the left. They are not satisfied with centrists or moderates… you just harsh their liberal buzz… I found that out the hard way… good try.

81 Boogberg  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:14:02pm

re: #70 Mad Al-Jaffee

I remember seeing it (and other Kroft shows) after school. Land of the Lost was probably my favorite.

You Sleestak bastard! You beat me to it. :D

82 b_sharp  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:14:36pm

re: #68 Dark_Falcon

Because people are not rational, and world in which they were completely rational would be a nightmare for me. I wouldn’t even be the same person.

Please, do not spoil the ending for me. I just don’t want to know.

83 swamprat  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:14:41pm

re: #60 b_sharp

It’s long been a dream of mine that all atheists are completely rational and everyone will drop religion in favour of that rationality. Sometimes its hard to wake up to the nightmare of reality.

Why is reality so god-damned messy?


I will pray for you.

84 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:14:47pm

Hilarious Puffenstuff Parody, from Mr. Show

85 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:15:18pm

re: #75 swamprat

Duuuuude.

86 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:15:39pm

To bed.

87 zora  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:16:09pm

re: #54 Surabaya Stew

All the exhortations decrying the “extremists” of the GOP/conservatives, and asking for the “moderates” to stand up to them sound just like those asking the “moderate” muslims to stand up to the salifists/jihadis. Not going to happen in either case until the extremists make a total mess out of everything their politics/religion supposedly stand for.

Youtube Video

Where Are The Moderate Muslims? Red State Update.

88 b_sharp  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:16:18pm

re: #69 Surabaya Stew

Just when one thinks he is no longer with us, all of a sudden there he is again!

While reading your comment, some of the Psycho background sounds went through my head.

89 Mich-again  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:16:26pm

And don’t forget the Banana Splits!

90 Surabaya Stew  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:16:38pm

re: #74 Mad Al-Jaffee

I thought your links were going to be about Michael Jackson.

No doubt MJ would approve of the overlap. His entire mid and late career/lifestyle encouraged people to think of him as not occupying our plane of reality. For a not insignificant number of people, he is God!

91 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:17:10pm

re: #82 b_sharp

Please, do not spoil the ending for me. I just don’t want to know.

Sorry. It’s just that your dream is a nightmare to me. Complete rationality is highly overrated.

92 What, me worry?  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:17:17pm

re: #77 Mich-again

Another boring day… on the Island of Peegee Peegee..

No one ever knows what that means why I say that lol

I found the intro to the show.

Youtube Video

Oh Land of the Lost was fabulous too.

93 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:17:18pm

re: #81 Boogberg

You Sleestak bastard! You beat me to it. :D

I totally had a crush on Dyna Girl.

94 b_sharp  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:17:24pm

re: #76 Racer X

Hmm…

Some people need to take spirituality to the next level, and they embrace religion as the conduit. Thats OK with me as long as they live by the golden rule and don’t harp on those who believe differently than they do.

I hate Harpies.

95 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:17:40pm

re: #89 Mich-again

Wow. The seventies was a very weird decade. No wonder I’m like I am.

96 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:17:44pm

Since we’re claiming “token” status or whatever, I declare myself LGF’s “Token Deist.” Why? Because it makes me feel special.

97 Surabaya Stew  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:18:23pm

re: #87 zora

[Video]

Where Are The Moderate Muslims? Red State Update.

That’s just painful to watch….

98 Political Atheist  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:18:37pm

re: #80 Walter L. Newton

A good point. true of the right and left. Well we will follow our consciences issue by issue. Topic by topic. We will call it as we see them in our chosen style. The rest, well that will follow as it might.

99 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:19:01pm

re: #46 Jimmah

70’s tv. I have access to much more. Some of it even scares me. For example this:


[Video]

OMFG.
*boom*
Head exploded…
Brb.

100 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:19:08pm

re: #96 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Ooh ooh ooh, can I be the token evangelical?

101 iceweasel  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:19:15pm

re: #65 Rightwingconspirator

I hope you saw DL’s break with the GOP today. Jobs bill thread. She had stuck with it hoping to wait out the insanity, I had bailed a couple years ago. For her this was big. The discussions we would have! Anyway we are both now at heart post wing “sensible” conservatives. She’ll make hersd official shortly.

Now this leaves us in agreement with many, and disagreement with plenty around here. What this also does is present the voting booth dilemma- Are we willing to walk away from two unsuitable candidates in the general? Brave enough to walk away from a senate vote or governors vote entirely? If and when neither can meet our minimum standards to get the vote we withhold the vote.

I did see that—or the beginnings of that— and updinged her in that thread. I also saw she’s feeling poorly (sore throat) so please give her my best.

Give her my sympathy too. It’s really hard and awful to feel without a party or to become alienated from the one you considered ‘home’. (A lot of people on the left went through that too, from 2001-2006 or so).
There aren’t easy answers for what to do, but I believe activism is hugely important, and especially the internet (which really helped the left).
It’s a long and hard road.
(I’m not a Democrat myself and I have big issues with the Democratic Party so I know a little bit what it feels like.)

Conservatives here could make a start on that activism right here, on their LGF pages and networking with other conservatives.

102 Racer X  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:19:20pm

re: #94 b_sharp

I hate Harpies.

Penicillin should clear that up.

103 iceweasel  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:20:02pm

re: #80 Walter L. Newton

You and DL are not going to win any points calling yourself “sensible conservatives.” You’ll still be considered right wing. They want your whole soul, all the way to the left. They are not satisfied with centrists or moderates… you just harsh their liberal buzz… I found that out the hard way… good try.

More trolling. This is false.

104 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:20:22pm

re: #80 Walter L. Newton

You and DL are not going to win any points calling yourself “sensible conservatives.” You’ll still be considered right wing. They want your whole soul, all the way to the left. They are not satisfied with centrists or moderates… you just harsh their liberal buzz… I found that out the hard way… good try.

Image: drudge_siren.gif

105 b_sharp  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:21:27pm

re: #83 swamprat

I will pray for you.

Ouch!

While I was at talk.origins we had a creationist we called McNameless who was alway praying for the howler monkeys. Apparently he didn’t do much of a job, he’s still called McNameless.

106 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:21:39pm

re: #80 Walter L. Newton

Uh oh, Walters’ grumpy again.

107 iceweasel  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:21:44pm

re: #98 Rightwingconspirator

A good point. true of the right and left. Well we will follow our consciences issue by issue. Topic by topic. We will call it as we see them in our chosen style. The rest, well that will follow as it might.

This is really the bottom line about what one can do regardless of party affilation, and also imo the best thing for anyone to do anyway. IMO.

108 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:22:11pm

re: #100 Irenicum

Ooh ooh ooh, can I be the token evangelical?

Of course. Just remember there’s a daily quota of preaching to be fulfilled, with fines for not fulfilling your quota.

109 Stanghazi  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:22:16pm

re: #55 marjoriemoon

I don’t know if you ever saw any HR Puffinstuff. I loved it. Jack Wild (Artful Dodger) was the host. He was a boy still then.

Anyway HR Puffinstuff was a Sid and Marty Kroft creation and they did some trippy stuff. I was maybe 10, 12? It was great.


[Video]

That show scared the shit out of me every Saturday.

110 Surabaya Stew  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:22:21pm

re: #96 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Since we’re claiming “token” status or whatever, I declare myself LGF’s “Token Deist.” Why? Because it makes me feel special.

Heh, you’re going to have to share….there’s more than one Deist on this thread!

111 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:22:37pm

Just sayin’ that a cool breeze is blowing through my window. Heaven indeed.

112 iceweasel  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:22:55pm

re: #104 Gus 802

Image: drudge_siren.gif

heh. I love that!

113 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:23:19pm

Ok after watching 3:19 of this video and taking copious notes here is what I have gotten so far:

Kagan = Blue helmets taking over America.
Kagan = Overturning free speech rulings.
Kagan = Using powers not given by the constitution to do whatever she wants.
Kagan = Censoring free speech and supporting the Obama “Kill switch” for the entire internet, and also for installing a “black box” in your home that will censor what you can see on the internet.
Kagan = Tyranny by the executive branch.
Kagan = Less than 38% support overall by voters and should not be confirmed.
Kagan = Even though a “black box” that censors and keeps track of all your internet links is unconstitutional she would approve it anyway.

Jesus effing Christ, and that is only a third of the video, I really couldn’t stand anymore. The dipshits who listen to and believe in this crap in a perfect world would not be allowed to vote. To bad we would still have to allow them to breed in hopes that their offspring weren’t quite as afflicted…

/

114 laZardo  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:23:31pm

re: #100 Irenicum

Ooh ooh ooh, can I be the token evangelical?

I call token “iPhone-using Hipster-outfitted Starbucks Socialist.”

/even though I currently don’t have an iPhone, can’t afford Starbucks on a regular basis and tight pants suffocate my genitals ;_;

115 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:23:38pm

re: #108 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Well, it was a small log cabin….

116 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:23:40pm

re: #112 iceweasel

heh. I love that!

Yeah. I thought I’d just post that and let sleeping dog lies. Talk about poisoning the well aye?

117 b_sharp  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:23:42pm

re: #91 Dark_Falcon

Sorry. It’s just that your dream is a nightmare to me. Complete rationality is highly overrated.

Not really a dominant aspect of humans, is it? Darn hairless monkeys.

118 Racer X  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:23:55pm

re: #80 Walter L. Newton

You and DL are not going to win any points calling yourself “sensible conservatives.” You’ll still be considered right wing. They want your whole soul, all the way to the left. They are not satisfied with centrists or moderates… you just harsh their liberal buzz… I found that out the hard way… good try.

I hear ya brother. I’m no where near right-wing on many issues. Yet I consistently get the “wingnut” or “right winger” retort almost every time I criticize the Prez. I love it!

119 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:24:28pm

I guess I’m the token harmonica player.

120 b_sharp  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:24:37pm

re: #96 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Since we’re claiming “token” status or whatever, I declare myself LGF’s “Token Deist.” Why? Because it makes me feel special.

Can I be the token token?

121 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:25:06pm

re: #114 laZardo

You should tell that to my systematic theology prof. But then again he is Romanian and loves tight pants.

122 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:25:29pm

re: #120 b_sharp

Can I be the token token?

Heh, go for it.

123 iceweasel  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:26:07pm

re: #116 Gus 802

Yeah. I thought I’d just post that and let sleeping dog lies. Talk about poisoning the well aye?

Yeah, that’s exactly what’s going on. “Let’s foster and stoke an atmosphere where people on the right here can pretend to feel picked on or marginalised by the people on the left— even when we have to make shit up to do it.”

Drama, drama, drama. And lies, of course.

124 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:26:21pm

re: #60 b_sharp

It’s long been a dream of mine that all atheists are completely rational and everyone will drop religion in favour of that rationality. Sometimes its hard to wake up to the nightmare of reality.

Why is reality so god-damned messy?

I was an atheist once, trust me, we are not all rational, not hardly. I was especially irrational when I was an atheist but I’m not sure if that was a side effect or just a benefit. :p

125 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:26:26pm

re: #120 b_sharp

We’ll flip and see.

126 ReamWorks SKG  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:26:43pm

re: #113 ausador

Did this all begin with Robert Bork? Or am I too young (I’m 47) to remember earlier cases of extreme criticism of confirmation candidates. (And I’m withholding opinion over whether Bork was treated fairly or not.)

127 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:27:59pm

re: #123 iceweasel

Yeah, that’s exactly what’s going on. “Let’s foster and stoke an atmosphere where people on the right here can pretend to feel picked on or marginalised by the people on the left— even when we have to make shit up to do it.”

Drama, drama, drama. And lies, of course.

Yeah, it’s a load of BS. Plus it was pretty quite in here and that was just said to stir things up. We’re on what? Day 2 of that “right wing” thing that was brought up by one person? Let me reiterate. One person. Not 2. Not 3. Just one.

128 laZardo  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:28:19pm

re: #120 b_sharp

Can I be the token token?

Sure. Although we tend to use swipe cards instead of tokens for most of their applications these days…

129 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:28:20pm

re: #127 Gus 802

Quiet not quite.

130 Boogberg  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:28:24pm

That rings a bell. “You got Borked”

131 b_sharp  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:28:32pm

re: #125 Irenicum

We’ll flip and see.

Um, OK. How much do you weigh, and do want me to flip you over my hip, or my shoulder?

132 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:29:07pm

re: #131 b_sharp

I’m head and tails either way.

133 Political Atheist  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:29:18pm

re: #107 iceweasel

Yes, it’s how we vote and how we blog here. Where we have room to engage and skip the flame wars, wiith all due respect for those with honest passion.

134 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:29:20pm

re: #127 Gus 802

Drama llama!
It’s all about me!
(It’s really not, BTW!)

135 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:29:42pm

re: #134 Floral Giraffe

Drama llama!
It’s all about me!
(It’s really not, BTW!)

More about me!

/

136 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:29:46pm

re: #131 b_sharp

Um, OK. How much do you weigh, and do want me to flip you over my hip, or my shoulder?

in bed

137 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:29:50pm

re: #133 Rightwingconspirator

Very nicely said!
*claps*

138 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:29:51pm

re: #133 Rightwingconspirator

How dare you say that!!!
////

139 ReamWorks SKG  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:29:52pm

Can I be the token gay Jewish right-leaning Democrat?

140 Lidane  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:29:54pm

re: #59 Irenicum

Speaking of the Clash, this is my favorite song of theirs: Lost in a Supermarket.

I actually knew a couple that used that as their wedding song when they got married. It was so perfectly them that no one raised an eyebrow.

Best reception I ever went to. It was awesome. :D

141 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:30:17pm

re: #133 Rightwingconspirator

Yes, it’s how we vote and how we blog here. Where we have room to engage and skip the flame wars, wiith all due respect for those with honest passion.

There’s “passion” and then there’s “shit-slinging.” It’s hard to tell the difference some times, but one does exist.

142 Mich-again  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:30:57pm

re: #95 Irenicum

Wow. The seventies was a very weird decade. No wonder I’m like I am.


Very weird decade. The things that went on every day in middle school would probably make the National news today. We were all delinquents. Even the smart kids. When I tell young people some of the stories about the shenanigans we got into all the time, they just shake their head in disbelief.

Like getting high with the football coaches after games in 8th grade. Or throwing snowballs at cars after school every day in the winter. Or being gone from morning to night riding our bikes 20 miles from home in the Summer with the folks having no idea at all where we were. Or seeing who could rip off the most stuff from a store, with a winner take all for the prize. I could go on all day. We were horrible kids by todays standards. And that was at a Catholic school. The public school kids were even worse!

143 b_sharp  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:30:59pm

re: #132 Irenicum

I’m head and tails either way.

I guess I’ll just have to be edgier.

144 laZardo  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:31:04pm

re: #132 Irenicum

I’m head and tails either way.

In bed. the slot.

145 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:31:07pm

re: #139 reuven

Can I be the token gay Jewish right-leaning Democrat?

Let me check the manifest.

Yep, looks like we have an opening. You’re in.

/

146 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:31:20pm

re: #139 reuven

By all means!

147 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:32:16pm

Evening all? Wha’s the buzz?

148 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:32:23pm

re: #140 Lidane

Very cool. What a unique choice for a wedding song.

149 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:32:37pm

re: #139 reuven

Can I be the token gay Jewish right-leaning Democrat?

Well, one of them anyway…but we have no shortage of room here, so feel free.

150 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:32:42pm

Bah, the encroaching seriousness is harshing my buzz. Think I’ll rewatch the Green Hornet trailer that just came out:

Youtube Video
151 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:33:06pm

re: #22 laZardo

Posted a new LGF page about a certain war anniversary coming up…

Me too.
Most of the observances and comments around the net have been pretty dignified but neo-McCarthyites just cannot resist the urge to rear their brainless heads.
A lot of this takes the form of UN bashing, as though the UN had been the enemy in Korea. I caught this at an unlinkable wingnut site:

The UN mandated Korean Police Action should have been the
signal to get out of the UN.
The USSR as a member of the security council of the UN was
given information of all troop movements.
The only POTUSA to give the UN any problem was Ronald Reagan
when he kicked out UNESCO, G.W. Bush invited them back.


This has it backward, it was the Truman administration that sought (successfully) to involve the UN. The claim about the Soviets getting information on troop movements is straight from the mouth of McCarthy’s whisky-sodden ghost and has no basis in fact. The Inchon landing, for example, caught the communists completely by surprise.

152 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:33:10pm

re: #147 PT Barnum

Evening all? Wha’s the buzz?

Buzz? We’re talking about tokens, not tokin’.

153 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:33:23pm

re: #150 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Bah, the encroaching seriousness is harshing my buzz. Think I’ll rewatch the Green Hornet trailer that just came out:


[Video]

It sounds interesting, but I’m having a hard time envisioning Seth Rogan as the hero..

154 Political Atheist  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:34:01pm

re: #118 Racer X

All we need to do is keep it grounded in real debate. Not the shallow crap we see on Fox, or from the likes of Code pink. It’s not about the birth cert, its anbot the certainty of mission with all that pressure. It’s about how we address the recession. Not if.

An easy example-Should we have owned GM with strings or loaned to GM with strings? ODS free questions abound. But that’s another thread.

155 b_sharp  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:34:16pm

re: #139 reuven

Can I be the token gay Jewish right-leaning Democrat?

You’ll need an acronym, and TGJRLD just doesn’t look right.

156 ReamWorks SKG  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:34:23pm

I didn’t know that Gregory Peck did the VO for an ad that “attacked Bork as an extremist”. (Unless someone just put that in Wikipedia for fun.) Who can they get to do the voice-over for the anti-Kagen ad?

157 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:34:43pm

re: #152 Mad Al-Jaffee

Buzz? We’re talking about tokens, not tokin’.

The other day, my sister said something about smoking a pot roast and I asked her where was going to find rolling papers big enough. My other sister asked her which end she was going to light first, and I said “the butt end, of course”

158 b_sharp  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:35:11pm

re: #152 Mad Al-Jaffee

Buzz? We’re talking about tokens, not tokin’.

Sez who?

159 Mich-again  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:35:11pm

re: #151 Shiplord Kirel
Well just a few years ago when Israel was fighting the war in Lebanon, UNIFIL was posting the latest Israeli troop movements on their web page every day.

160 Lidane  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:35:32pm

re: #148 Irenicum

Very cool. What a unique choice for a wedding song.

They met when they were both in high school and working at a supermarket. Plus, they were both fans of The Clash. It fit them perfectly. Hehe.

Personally, I think more wedding songs should be that unique instead of the usual declarations of eternal love. It should be something that fits the couple themselves, regardless of genre. IMO, anyway. :)

161 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:36:08pm

re: #158 b_sharp

Sez who?

I skipped the toke and went right to the munchies tonight. Mini pretzels and Mild Cheddar cheese dip…MMMMMMM!

162 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:36:19pm

re: #159 Mich-again

Well just a few years ago when Israel was fighting the war in Lebanon, UNIFIL was posting the latest Israeli troop movements on their web page every day.

they were just “leveling the playing field” so Israel didn’t have “unproportional” responses !!!

163 b_sharp  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:36:40pm

G’night scaly friends.

164 Boogberg  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:36:48pm

re: #142 Mich-again

I smuggled three joints into high school inside an 8-track cartridge. We went to the orange grove to smoke ‘em though. :D

165 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:37:10pm

re: #160 Lidane

They met when they were both in high school and working at a supermarket. Plus, they were both fans of The Clash. It fit them perfectly. Hehe.

Personally, I think more wedding songs should be that unique instead of the usual declarations of eternal love. It should be something that fits the couple themselves, regardless of genre. IMO, anyway. :)

Should I stay or Should I Go or “Little Miss Can’t Be Wrong” are probably bad signs though.

166 ReamWorks SKG  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:37:54pm

Republicans to boycott Kagen hearings? That’s awfully rude:

[Link: blogs.abcnews.com…]

167 laZardo  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:38:01pm

re: #151 Shiplord Kirel

IIRC the USSR actually wasn’t present when the UN decided to go into Korea, so they wouldn’t have had info on the troop movements anyway.

Meanwhile, one of the journalists documenting their country’s charge across the front lines also happens to be the father of our current President-elect.

168 Lidane  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:38:11pm

re: #165 PT Barnum

Should I stay or Should I Go or “Little Miss Can’t Be Wrong” are probably bad signs though.

Heh. Given the divorce statistics these days, they’re probably just a sign of the inevitable.

169 laZardo  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:38:44pm

Brb need to brush my teeth and get ready for college. >_>

170 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:38:50pm

re: #160 Lidane

I’m always freaked out by people picking Every Breath You Take as a wedding song. Stalker alert!

171 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:38:56pm

re: #168 Lidane

Heh. Given the divorce statistics these days, they’re probably just a sign of the inevitable.

Actually the latter is the ringtone I use for my Ex wife.

172 swamprat  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:39:02pm

re: #124 ausador
Side effects may include, smugness, feelings of superiority, belief in one’s infallibility,
rationality, lucidity, tendency to want to laugh at others, tendency to broad-brush people with other opinions, feelings of objectivity, Darwin worship, evangelical urges and addiction/lust for ZOMGitsCriss.

The list for Christians arrives in a separate parcel delivered by UPS

174 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:39:51pm

re: #156 reuven

I didn’t know that Gregory Peck did the VO for an ad that “attacked Bork as an extremist”. (Unless someone just put that in Wikipedia for fun.) Who can they get to do the voice-over for the anti-Kagen ad?

Ted Nugent…

175 Political Atheist  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:39:56pm

re: #141 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Agreed. Even as the red lines move they continue to be important to respect. Some here choose to bang away pretty hard at each other. Okay with me, as even they have limits they respect, like rule 4. Not my style but its a big effing blog.

176 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:40:00pm

re: #170 Irenicum

I’m always freaked out by people picking Every Breath You Take as a wedding song. Stalker alert!

My wife and I used So Happy Together as our wedding song…

177 iceweasel  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:40:17pm

re: #127 Gus 802

Yeah, it’s a load of BS. Plus it was pretty quite in here and that was just said to stir things up. We’re on what? Day 2 of that “right wing” thing that was brought up by one person? Let me reiterate. One person. Not 2. Not 3. Just one.

Yeah. Histrionic, narcissistic drama. Also a passive aggressive way of undermining the site.

The vast majority of people here are here because they WANT to engage with people with different ideas. And that means especially the people on the left— because on the left there are lots of sane sites to hang out on, whereas on the right there are not. That’s just a fact at the moment.
So why aren’t people on the left over on the left sites? We’re here (I presume) because we don’t want an echo chamber.

178 Lidane  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:40:17pm

re: #170 Irenicum

I’m always freaked out by people picking Every Breath You Take as a wedding song. Stalker alert!

You’re not the only one. Sting’s been quoted as saying that whenever some couple tells him that was their wedding song, he just smiles and wishes them luck.

It’s amazing how much that song’s been misinterpreted over the years.

179 Boogberg  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:40:44pm

re: #173 Racer X

God did it.

180 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:41:03pm

re: #170 Irenicum

There’s a local band (who we’ve done a couple of shows with) that has a song that goes “I’m gonna sell that bitch’s car and buy myself a rockin’ guitar.” Probably not a good wedding song.

181 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:42:13pm

re: #172 swamprat

But what if you’re an evangelical like me who also has an “addiction/lust for ZOMGitsCriss.”? Oh, that’s right. She’s just freakishly hot.

182 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:42:32pm

re: #180 Mad Al-Jaffee

There’s a local band (who we’ve done a couple of shows with) that has a song that goes “I’m gonna sell that bitch’s car and buy myself a rockin’ guitar.” Probably not a good wedding song.

I always liked the line about not getting married again and instead finding a woman I don’t like all that much and buying her a house. Luckily I like Mrs. Barnum just fine, even after 10 years.

183 Mich-again  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:42:45pm

re: #180 Mad Al-Jaffee

There’s a local band (who we’ve done a couple of shows with) that has a song that goes “I’m gonna sell that bitch’s car and buy myself a rockin’ guitar.” Probably not a good wedding song.

I know a local band around here that does that same song. Good one for crowd participation.

184 Jimmah  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:42:55pm

Department of Sanity General Advice:

Youtube Video
185 Lidane  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:43:38pm

re: #166 reuven

Republicans to boycott Kagen hearings? That’s awfully rude:

[Link: blogs.abcnews.com…]

Not to mention stupid. What’s the point of boycotting her confirmation hearings? That makes no damned sense. If you object to her being on SCOTUS, wouldn’t it make more sense to go on the record demanding answers to issues you think are important?

186 ReamWorks SKG  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:43:43pm

Inappropriate wedding song requests is probably THE most popular ongoing thread in a pipe organist forum I participate in.

187 Mich-again  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:43:44pm

re: #176 PT Barnum

My wife and I used So Happy Together as our wedding song…


Ours was Michelle My Belle. I picked that one. Still makes me smile every time I hear that on the Oldies station..

188 Jimmah  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:44:10pm

Bed time for me. Later folks :)

189 swamprat  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:44:18pm

re: #181 Irenicum

She seems to be a good egg.

.

.

.

And I mean that as a fertile male.

190 Racer X  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:44:31pm

Rude Awakening!

Liveleak Video
191 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:45:02pm

re: #180 Mad Al-Jaffee

I just spit out my potato chips at that line thank you very much!

192 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:45:12pm

re: #189 swamprat

She seems to be a good egg.

.

.

.

And I mean that as a fertile male.

Best come back to a cheesy pick up line:

How do you like your eggs in the morning?

Unfertilized.

193 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:45:16pm

re: #177 iceweasel

Yeah. Histrionic, narcissistic drama. Also a passive aggressive way of undermining the site.

The vast majority of people here are here because they WANT to engage with people with different ideas. And that means especially the people on the left— because on the left there are lots of sane sites to hang out on, whereas on the right there are not. That’s just a fact at the moment.
So why aren’t people on the left over on the left sites? We’re here (I presume) because we don’t want an echo chamber.

There plenty of people on both sides to appreciate. I lean left of center but I have to admit there have been time when I want to choke someone like Homer choking Bart. I’m sure you know of a couple of people that I’m thinking about especially when it comes to atheism. If calm is maintained or perhaps injecting some humor the next day all is well. I think when anyone becomes obsessed one way or the other that’s when things get out of hand. Especially holding grudges and not letting things go days after a flare up.

194 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:45:59pm

re: #142 Mich-again

Very weird decade. The things that went on every day in middle school would probably make the National news today. We were all delinquents. Even the smart kids. When I tell young people some of the stories about the shenanigans we got into all the time, they just shake their head in disbelief.

Like getting high with the football coaches after games in 8th grade. Or throwing snowballs at cars after school every day in the winter. Or being gone from morning to night riding our bikes 20 miles from home in the Summer with the folks having no idea at all where we were. Or seeing who could rip off the most stuff from a store, with a winner take all for the prize. I could go on all day. We were horrible kids by todays standards. And that was at a Catholic school. The public school kids were even worse!

Indeed. During my junior year in ghigh school, I wrote a story in which the school’s delinquents and social outsiders staged a commando style attack one morning and assassinated the martinet of an assistant principal by shooting him in the gut with a flare pistol. I graphically described him falling to the floor and writhing as great billows of red smoke poured from his belly.
The attackers then rounded up all the cheerleaders and rich kids and sold them to a group of Arab and Mexican slave traders who had been invited to an auction in the school auditorium. They split up the money and hitched a ride to Brazil with one of the slavers, concluding the story with a beer bust on Copacabana beach.
All I got for this lurid flight of fancy was a lecture from the principal (who chuckled part of the time) and five demerits (It took 50 to get you expelled).
Today, of course, something like this would bring the SWAT team, the entire global media, and a major lockdown, with 10 years on probation and at least 100 years in counseling for the miscreant author.

195 Mich-again  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:46:00pm

re: #162 sattv4u2

they were just “leveling the playing field” so Israel didn’t have “unproportional” responses !!!


It was covered in a thread here..link

196 Political Atheist  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:46:17pm

In Bed. *me in about one minute*
G’night all!

197 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:46:20pm

re: #193 Gus 802

There plenty of people on both sides to appreciate. I lean left of center but I have to admit there have been time when I want to choke someone like Homer choking Bart. I’m sure you know of a couple of people that I’m thinking about especially when it comes to atheism. If calm is maintained or perhaps injecting some humor the next day all is well. I think when anyone becomes obsessed one way or the other that’s when things get out of hand. Especially holding grudges and not letting things go days after a flare up.

there are some here who thrive on it, but I’m not namin names.

198 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:46:25pm

re: #181 Irenicum

But what if you’re an evangelical like me who also has an “addiction/lust for ZOMGitsCriss.”? Oh, that’s right. She’s just freakishly hot.

Not just freakishly hot, she also has a very sexy accent, and seems to be very intelligent.

/I’d do her, well if I had to, even though she is an atheist. (who am I kidding, hell I’d blow her if she had a wang.) ;)

199 Lidane  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:46:39pm

re: #186 reuven

Inappropriate wedding song requests is probably THE most popular ongoing thread in a pipe organist forum I participate in.

For some reason, I’ve now got that episode of The Simpsons where Bart switched the pipe organ sheet music to “In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida” in my head. Heh.

200 Mich-again  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:47:37pm

re: #194 Shiplord Kirel

All I got for this lurid flight of fancy was a lecture from the principal (who chuckled part of the time) and five demerits (It took 50 to get you expelled).
Today, of course, something like this would bring the SWAT team, the entire global media, and a major lockdown, with 10 years on probation and at least 100 years in counseling for the miscreant author.

No doubt! And Fox News would be there to cover the story…

201 iceweasel  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:48:49pm

re: #193 Gus 802

There plenty of people on both sides to appreciate. I lean left of center but I have to admit there have been time when I want to choke someone like Homer choking Bart. I’m sure you know of a couple of people that I’m thinking about especially when it comes to atheism. If calm is maintained or perhaps injecting some humor the next day all is well. I think when anyone becomes obsessed one way or the other that’s when things get out of hand. Especially holding grudges and not letting things go days after a flare up.

It’s a pretty big blog. It’s pretty darn easy to not interact with someone.
Unless they’re an asshole who repeatedly interacts with you. Some slurs have to be answered.

202 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:49:03pm

re: #199 Lidane

For some reason, I’ve now got that episode of The Simpsons where Bart switched the pipe organ sheet music to “In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida” in my head. Heh.

Vicar of Dibley (one of my favorite BBC shows) also had a chorister who liked to get a bit funky..

203 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:49:18pm

re: #199 Lidane

For some reason, I’ve now got that episode of The Simpsons where Bart switched the pipe organ sheet music to “In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida” in my head. Heh.

That song is wayyy tooo looong for a wedding. :p

204 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:49:39pm

I’m going to sign off. Sleep well, all.

205 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:49:58pm

re: #203 ausador

That song is wayyy tooo looong for a wedding. :p

That would last through the ceremony, the reception and the consumation

206 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:50:02pm

re: #175 Rightwingconspirator

Agreed. Even as the red lines move they continue to be important to respect. Some here choose to bang away pretty hard at each other. Okay with me, as even they have limits they respect, like rule 4. Not my style but its a big effing blog.

Hey, I’m all for a good knock-down, drag-out brawl once in awhile. You can’t be at LGF for too long and not feel passionately about one thing or another. But you gotta remember that nobody pulls punches, nobody gets handicaps, and your position it not always gonna be popular. If you get too worked up, then walk away for a bit, or do some therapeutical screaming, or have a drink. Just don’t hold a grudge, don’t think everybody’s out to get ya, and find some common ground.

It’s possible to disagree with a person in the strongest terms, yet at the end of the day, be able to have some fun together.

207 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:50:21pm

Bed time. See you tomorrow.

208 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:50:31pm

re: #205 PT Barnum

That would last through the ceremony, the reception and the consumation

or in other words:

wed, fed, and bred

209 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:50:35pm

re: #200 Mich-again

With helicopters flying overhead describing the slow speed chase that would ensue.

210 swamprat  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:50:39pm

re: #198 ausador

Not just freakishly hot, she also has a very sexy accent, and seems to be very intelligent.

/I’d do her well, if I had to.
; )

Brevity is best

211 Mich-again  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:50:43pm

re: #203 ausador

That song is wayyy tooo looong for a wedding. :p


Weding? Heck, that song last longer than some Marriages.

212 Bagua  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:51:32pm

re: #119 Mad Al-Jaffee

I guess I’m the token harmonica player.

Not likely.

213 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:52:16pm

re: #212 Bagua

Not likely.

And not that there’s anything wrong with that…

214 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:52:22pm

re: #201 iceweasel

It’s a pretty big blog. It’s pretty darn easy to not interact with someone.
Unless they’re an asshole who repeatedly interacts with you. Some slurs have to be answered.

Yeah, I know. It’s not uncommon to get baited or trolled. The passive trolling can be rather irritating as can the martyrdom. What gets really old is when people starting complaining about complaining. Especially if it’s a Beck thread and then someone starts getting on your case for being on Beck’s case. (cough)

215 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:53:00pm

re: #198 ausador

I actually do enjoy her videos every time she posts. I subscribe to her youtube page and am friends with her on facebook. I find her very insightful and well worth listening to. Oh and she’s crazy hot, or did I already mention that?

216 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:53:03pm

re: #214 Gus 802

Yeah, I know. It’s not uncommon to get baited or trolled. The passive trolling can be rather irritating as can the martyrdom. What gets really old is when people starting complaining about complaining. Especially if it’s a Beck thread and then someone starts getting on your case for being on Beck’s case. (cough)

Glenn Beck is a soulless panderer

217 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:54:48pm

re: #215 Irenicum

I actually do enjoy her videos every time she posts. I subscribe to her youtube page and am friends with her on facebook. I find her very insightful and well worth listening to. Oh and she’s crazy hot, or did I already mention that?

Every time I see her I keep thinking of a Woody Allen story called “The Whore of Mensa” which was about men who would pay large sums of money to have deep conversations with intelligent women.

218 iceweasel  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:55:02pm

re: #214 Gus 802

Yeah, I know. It’s not uncommon to get baited or trolled. The passive trolling can be rather irritating as can the martyrdom. What gets really old is when people starting complaining about complaining. Especially if it’s a Beck thread and then someone starts getting on your case for being on Beck’s case. (cough)

Sure. Those cases are someone who’s angry about what Charles has posted, and because they’re too chickenshit to complain directly, they attack other people. It’s been a pretty common tactic here. IIRC you mentioned that it used to happen to you a lot. Still does.

Meh. People. They’re funny./

219 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:55:25pm

re: #201 iceweasel

And friends deserve respect, and, well, {{ICE}} hugs, sometimes!

220 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:56:08pm

re: #214 Gus 802

WTF is your problem?
///

221 Mich-again  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:56:14pm

re: #212 Bagua

Not likely.


I still play in a bar band around here, have for years, so I speak with experience here. Never invite a guest harmonica player on stage. Once they get on stage, they won’t leave. And while they might add a nice touch to a blues song, 8 songs later when you’re playing The Rover by Led Zeppelin, the guy is still there, blaring the harmonica into the mic and no one can hear the vocals. I’ve been down that road a dozen times and it always ends the same. You practically have to throw them off stage once you invite them up.

222 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:56:28pm

re: #220 Floral Giraffe

WTF is your problem?
///

=)

223 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:56:47pm

Well good night…I have my son’s cub scout day camp to rest up for…I expect to be absolutely beat by the end of the day at which point we’re taking my son and his friend to a minor league baseball game….

224 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:57:22pm

re: #220 Floral Giraffe

WTF is your problem?
///

I disagree! How dare you! You have a lot of nerve!

//

225 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:57:49pm

Same here. Tomorrow beckons. So glad it’s cool enough to sleep. See y’all on the other side.

226 iceweasel  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:58:05pm

re: #219 Floral Giraffe

And friends deserve respect, and, well, {{ICE}} hugs, sometimes!

Right back at ya, sweetheart! Aw, thanks! V excited about your email btw!

re: #220 Floral Giraffe

WTF is your problem?
///

A for effort. Needs more namecalling. Also cowbell! /

227 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:58:13pm

re: #224 Gus 802

Fight, fight, fight!!!
///

228 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:58:20pm

re: #224 Gus 802

Flipping troll.
///

229 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:58:39pm

re: #228 Floral Giraffe

Flipping troll.
///

Prog!

//

230 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:59:12pm

re: #227 Irenicum

Yer a loser.
(typos caused by being in Mom’s basement and not having a good flow of Cheeto’s!)

231 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:59:14pm

God I love this place.

232 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:59:41pm

re: #231 Irenicum

Yer Mom’s basement?
///

233 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:00:09pm

re: #232 Floral Giraffe

No! Grandpa’s attic!

234 Boogberg  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:00:17pm

re: #186 reuven

Inappropriate wedding song requests is probably THE most popular ongoing thread in a pipe organist forum I participate in.

Love pipe organ music! This one’s pretty good:

Youtube Video

Whether you’re religious or not, we owe the Churches for great music.

235 iceweasel  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:01:32pm

re: #229 Gus 802

Prog!

//

Right winger!
///

236 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:01:58pm

re: #235 iceweasel

Right winger!
///

War monger!

/

237 Surabaya Stew  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:02:22pm

It’s good being back at LGF; night’ y’all!

238 iceweasel  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:02:57pm

re: #236 Gus 802

War monger!

/

Hippie! /

239 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:03:27pm

Won’t somebody think of the children?!?!?!

240 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:03:39pm

re: #238 iceweasel

Hippie! /

Tranzi! /

241 Mich-again  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:03:45pm

re: #234 Boogberg
I’m still trying to wrap my brain around the fact that there is an interwebs forum for Pipe Organists.

242 Four More Tears  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:04:28pm

re: #240 Gus 802

Tranzi! /

I still have no clue what “tranzi” is supposed to mean. Short for transvestite?

243 Irenicum  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:05:04pm

I would love to be a newbie just showing up wondering what the hell was going on. I’d think the inmates had taken over the joint. Being around for a while does have its privileges I suppose. G’nite you crazy kids.

244 Mich-again  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:05:11pm

G’nite Honcos.. Gotta rest up for the weekend.

245 iceweasel  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:05:20pm

re: #240 Gus 802

Tranzi! /

Shit, you got me there. :(

246 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:05:29pm

re: #242 JasonA

I still have no clue what “tranzi” is supposed to mean. Short for transvestite?

Transnational progressive

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

247 Bagua  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:05:58pm

re: #221 Mich-again

I still play in a bar band around here, have for years, so I speak with experience here. Never invite a guest harmonica player on stage. Once they get on stage, they won’t leave. And while they might add a nice touch to a blues song, 8 songs later when you’re playing The Rover by Led Zeppelin, the guy is still there, blaring the harmonica into the mic and no one can hear the vocals. I’ve been down that road a dozen times and it always ends the same. You practically have to throw them off stage once you invite them up.

The tendency is to take the creative lead and improvise. That sort of thing can get out of hand quickly.

248 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:07:22pm

re: #239 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Won’t somebody think of the children?!?!?!

Boat’s sinking!

Women and children last!

Let’s go men!

//

249 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:07:32pm

All you need is love.
Namaste, all!

Youtube Video
250 Four More Tears  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:07:43pm

re: #246 Gus 802

Transnational progressive

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

Oh.
.
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.
I knew that.
.
.
.
…

251 iceweasel  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:07:46pm

re: #242 JasonA

I still have no clue what “tranzi” is supposed to mean. Short for transvestite?

Made up word like ‘prog’. The Nazi bit is the obligatory Godwin moment: “Transnational Progressives”.

No, I don’t know what that’s supposed to be either. But I’m assured I’m one of them! /

252 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:09:13pm

re: #251 iceweasel

Made up word like ‘prog’. The Nazi bit is the obligatory Godwin moment: “Transnational Progressives”.

No, I don’t know what that’s supposed to be either. But I’m assured I’m one of them! /

Yeah. That a favorite of the mouth breathers.

253 Four More Tears  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:10:08pm

re: #252 Gus 802

Yeah. That a favorite of the mouth breathers.

What’s a mouth breather?

/

254 Bagua  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:10:46pm

re: #213 PT Barnum

And not that there’s anything wrong with that…

No, the blues harp is not inherently evil. But the whiskey, gambling, and loose girls that often come with it can test a man’s resolve.

255 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:11:03pm

GGGAAAAHHH

online courses for work , WITH quizzes at the end

One down ,,three to go

I’m in for a fun night !!

256 Boogberg  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:11:12pm

re: #241 Mich-again

I’m still trying to wrap my brain around the fact that there is an interwebs forum for Pipe Organists.

Lol! Amazing, eh? No matter what my question is, the answer is on the internet. Hell, maybe it is Skynet. :D

257 swamprat  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:11:32pm

re: #251 iceweasel

Made up word like ‘prog’. The Nazi bit is the obligatory Godwin moment: “Transnational Progressives”.

No, I don’t know what that’s supposed to be either. But I’m assured I’m one of them! /

We misplaced your name on the rolls. You blue helmet will arrive in the mail.

258 Four More Tears  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:11:45pm

re: #251 iceweasel

re: #252 Gus 802

You two should get a room while Jimmah’s not looking. :P

259 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:12:10pm

re: #258 JasonA

re: #252 Gus 802

You two should get a room while Jimmah’s not looking. :P

Thwack!

260 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:12:36pm

re: #215 Irenicum

I actually do enjoy her videos every time she posts. I subscribe to her youtube page and am friends with her on facebook. I find her very insightful and well worth listening to. Oh and she’s crazy hot, or did I already mention that?

She reminds me a lot of my ex, seriously, Lisa was a lot like that before I sucked all the life out of her. I had a business to build, which took 18 hours a day, and she got some of my spare time. After 13 years she met a guy on Yahoo (on the “pets and animals group” believe or not) and just drove away one day.

Took me about a year to get over being hurt and pissed and see it from her side, she tells me that she is extremely happy, she tells me that he makes her metal flowers with his welder in his spare time at work. She sounds like the girl I married, not the bitter dragged down nag I had gotten used too.

Sigh…I really fucked that one up didn’t I?

261 iceweasel  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:12:51pm

re: #252 Gus 802

Yeah. That a favorite of the mouth breathers.

That wiki article you linked is hilarious, unintentionally. My fave bit might be this:

In John Ringo’s military science fiction series Legacy of the Aldenata, the Aldenata are described disparagingly as “galactic tranzis”.

Tom Kratman references tranzi in “Caliphate”, a near future science fiction novel. In the afterword, which is not fiction, he describes how the tranzi’s policy of appeasement and inertia cause the takeover of Europe to Islamic control.

lol.

262 Four More Tears  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:13:20pm

re: #259 Gus 802

Thwack!

Flo?

263 RadicalModerate  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:14:00pm

I don’t predict a good outcome for this one, especially since parental consent isn’t part of the plan:

Memphis Educator Wants Corporal Punishment in ‘War Zone’ Schools

Whalum’s resolution has generated a heated debate along the banks of the Mississippi River. “Bringing corporal punishment back to the city schools is a good way to bring discipline to kids who desperately need it,” said Greg Nelson of Cordova. “There is nothing wrong with spanking for discipline. After all, it is Biblical and there is nothing wrong with that.”

Wendi C. Thomas, a columnist for The Commercial Appeal, addressed the controversy in a recent column titled, “Spare the rod, save it for the parents.” Schools “should not be in the beating business,” she wrote, suggesting that parents need to do a better job of parenting. “Personal and parental responsibility is what’s needed, not paddles for principals.”

264 Four More Tears  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:15:16pm

re: #260 ausador

Bravo. *clap* *clap* *clap*

265 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:15:17pm

re: #261 iceweasel

lol.

I didn’t even read it. Frankly only found out about the word after seeing that They Who Capitalize Words Randomly were said to have used it. Now it’s part of their ever going repertoire of dumbfuckery. The accepted and more common word is internationalist.

266 iceweasel  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:15:26pm

re: #258 JasonA

re: #252 Gus 802

You two should get a room while Jimmah’s not looking. :P

hey, as decadent lefties, what makes you think Jimmah wouldn’t be there? //

If this turns into another BDSM thread some stalker wingnut heads are gonna pop like popcorn.

267 Four More Tears  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:16:00pm

re: #266 iceweasel

hey, as decadent lefties, what makes you think Jimmah wouldn’t be there? //

If this turns into another BDSM thread some stalker wingnut heads are gonna pop like popcorn.

Okay. What’s the downside?

268 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:16:55pm

re: #267 JasonA

Okay. What’s the downside?

You have to wash the latex and PVC.

269 laZardo  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:17:20pm

Heading off to college now…in the meantime, enjoy LGF like you wouldn’t want to!

270 iceweasel  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:17:27pm

re: #265 Gus 802

I didn’t even read it. Frankly only found out about the word after seeing that They Who Capitalize Words Randomly were said to have used it. Now it’s part of their ever going repertoire of dumbfuckery. The accepted and more common word is internationalist.

Yeah, me too. The wiki is excellent though— One World Government paranoia and crap.
I should probably study it. In diluted form lots of those memes are circulating about the Obama admin in the fever swamps of the right.

271 Four More Tears  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:19:28pm

re: #268 Gus 802

You have to wash the latex and PVC.

No, I said downside.

272 iceweasel  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:19:37pm

re: #268 Gus 802

You have to wash the latex and PVC.

And take care of the leather. :-)

heh. you’re cracking me up tonight!

273 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:19:49pm

re: #270 iceweasel

Yeah, me too. The wiki is excellent though— One World Government paranoia and crap.
I should probably study it. In diluted form lots of those memes are circulating about the Obama admin in the fever swamps of the right.

You know, Obama better get busy. He’s got a lot of catching up to do if he’s ever going to accomplish all of those conspiracy theories. So far I don’t think he’s even finished with the first thing on the list whatever that is.

274 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:21:00pm

re: #272 iceweasel

And take care of the leather. :-)

heh. you’re cracking me up tonight!

Mink oil for the leather and Armour All for the pleather.

/Notice the “u” in armor. It’s foreign!

275 Four More Tears  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:22:08pm

re: #273 Gus 802

You know, Obama better get busy. He’s got a lot of catching up to do if he’s ever going to accomplish all of those conspiracy theories. So far I don’t think he’s even finished with the first thing on the list whatever that is.

I want to sing campfire songs while roasting smores in FEMA camp!

276 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:22:16pm

Uh oh! I said mink oil!

277 swamprat  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:23:05pm

re: #274 Gus 802

Mink oil for the leather and Armour All for the pleather.

/Notice the “u” in armor. It’s foreign!

Great! Another British petroleum product!

278 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:23:17pm

re: #275 JasonA

I want to sing campfire songs while roasting smores in FEMA camp!

Hmm. What about music? It’s either Ted Nugent or Pete Seeger.

279 Four More Tears  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:23:54pm

re: #278 Gus 802

Hmm. What about music? It’s either Ted Nugent or Pete Seeger.

…

Are those my only choices?

280 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:24:41pm

re: #279 JasonA

…

Are those my only choices?

Nope. You’re free to choose as long as it doesn’t include Barry Manilow or Styx.

281 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:26:15pm

The government of the Republic of Korea will be holding a number of appreciation events in the countries who participated in the UN/allied forces during the Korean War, including no fewer than 11 venues in the United States and 4 in Canada.

282 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:26:17pm

re: #277 swamprat

Great! Another British petroleum product!

No blood for Armour All!

/

283 Boogberg  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:28:28pm

Corporal punishment was acceptable when I was in 9th grade. Quite simple, really. You repeatedly misbehave, you get a paddle on your ass.

284 Four More Tears  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:28:29pm

re: #280 Gus 802

Nope. You’re free to choose as long as it doesn’t include Barry Manilow or Styx.

Huh? I thought we were singing this, no?

285 Four More Tears  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:29:04pm

re: #283 Boogberg

Corporal punishment was acceptable when I was in 9th grade. Quite simple, really. You repeatedly misbehave, you get a paddle on your ass.

I didn’t find it acceptable until I was in college.

What?

286 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:29:22pm

re: #284 JasonA

Huh? I thought we were singing this, no?

Oops! What was I thinking. Off to the re-education camp for me!!11ty.

287 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:29:33pm

re: #264 JasonA

Bravo. *clap* *clap* *clap*

Are you clapping for me being an completely retarded ass or for my ex having the sense to get the hell away from me? I’m confuseded…

288 Lidane  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:31:17pm

re: #273 Gus 802

You know, Obama better get busy. He’s got a lot of catching up to do if he’s ever going to accomplish all of those conspiracy theories. So far I don’t think he’s even finished with the first thing on the list whatever that is.

The first thing should have been building a time machine to go back and plant a fake birth announcement and birth certificate for himself in Hawaii. Honestly, the guy’s slacking. =P

By now, he should be working on implanting mind control chips in all of us to make himself the Not-So-Seekrit Commie Nazi Mooslim Overlord that the wingnuts think he is.

289 Four More Tears  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:31:19pm

re: #287 ausador

Are you clapping for me being an completely retarded ass or for my ex having the sense to get the hell away from me? I’m confuseded…

It’s a Simpsons reference that’s I failed to pull off in text, I guess. I forgot the whole scene, but he does something dumb and his brain says “Bravo,” and claps three times, very sarcastically. So… I guess yes to door number one. :P

290 Four More Tears  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:32:43pm

re: #286 Gus 802

Oops! What was I thinking. Off to the re-education camp for me!!11ty.

*presses Gus802’s personalized internet kill switch*

291 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:33:35pm

re: #288 Lidane

The first thing should have been building a time machine to go back and plant a fake birth announcement and birth certificate for himself in Hawaii. Honestly, the guy’s slacking. =P

By now, he should be working on implanting mind control chips in all of us to make himself the Not-So-Seekrit Commie Nazi Mooslim Overlord that the wingnuts think he is.

Time machine! OK, this would make a great movie. I suggest a Lockheed Constellation as the time machine and the captain has a pet parrot with Orly Taitz’s head.

292 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:35:43pm

re: #290 JasonA

*presses Gus802’s personalized internet kill switch*

“Big Sis” is coming to get me!!11ty

Image: drudge-siren.gif

293 ReamWorks SKG  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:35:51pm

re: #247 Bagua

If he doesn’t have a chromatic harmonic, just change to a key that he doesn’t have…

294 ReamWorks SKG  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:37:26pm

re: #289 JasonA

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

295 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:38:30pm

re: #251 iceweasel

Made up word like ‘prog’. The Nazi bit is the obligatory Godwin moment: “Transnational Progressives”.

No, I don’t know what that’s supposed to be either. But I’m assured I’m one of them! /

But that would be Tranpos. I’m not buying it. It’s probably dominionist code for transnational zionist. The people who made the term up forgot for a second that they supposed to camouflage their antisemitism, and were forced to ret-con the whole deal when it caught on.

“This plot made no sense! Tell the people!”
-Mr. Teeny

296 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:40:41pm

re: #285 JasonA

I didn’t find it acceptable until I was in college.

What?

Mr. Brown who was the principal at my elementary school had a giant “whiffle” (cricket) bat with holes drilled in it. Corporeal punishment was still very much in favor back then. If your teacher sent you to see the principal you were going to get your ass paddled until you cried, God forbid you tried to hold out and not cry, because you weren’t leaving until you did. Mr. Brown wanted to make sure that you were truly repentant of your previous behavior.

297 Bagua  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:42:11pm

re: #293 reuven

If he doesn’t have a chromatic harmonic, just change to a key that he doesn’t have…

I think that’s part of the problem, they probably tried to play on with the wrong key.

298 iceweasel  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:51:05pm

re: #295 goddamnedfrank

But that would be Tranpos. I’m not buying it. It’s probably dominionist code for transnational zionist. The people who made the term up forgot for a second that they supposed to camouflage their antisemitism, and were forced to ret-con the whole deal when it caught on.

“This plot made no sense! Tell the people!”
-Mr. Teeny

You know, that’s a good point. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least.

299 ClaudeMonet  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:57:10pm

re: #126 reuven

Did this all begin with Robert Bork? Or am I too young (I’m 47) to remember earlier cases of extreme criticism of confirmation candidates. (And I’m withholding opinion over whether Bork was treated fairly or not.)

Bork was the first really systematic, organized bullsh** festival on the part of the Left when it came to SCOTUS confirmation hearings. As I recall, some previous nominees came under fire, some for “crimes” like being Jewish (several nominees) or black (Marshall), some for being involved with shady characters, such as when LBJ picked his buddy, Abe Fortas (then an Associate Justice) to be Chief Justice (1966 or ‘67). The Democrats tried to portray Fortas, a known political bagman, as being persecuted for his religion, until the allegations turned out to be true.

One of the slickest moves in nominations was President Reagan picking Sandra Day O’Connor. He broke the supposed glass ceiling by naming someone whom the Democrats couldn’t go after for fear of alienating their female base, and whom the Republicans couldn’t reject for fear of alienating The Big Guy. The so-called Arch-Conservative broke new ground for the Women’s Movement that hated him so much—and made a wise choice of jurists as well.

Anyway—Until Bork, the Senate usually acquiesced when the President made a pick. Since then, it’s become a shooting gallery.

300 ClaudeMonet  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 11:02:24pm

re: #168 Lidane

Heh. Given the divorce statistics these days, they’re probably just a sign of the inevitable.

During a long car ride to be in a college friend’s wedding (with two other groomsmen and their wives), we put together an amazing list of “Songs Not To Play On Valentine’s Day”. I wish I still had that list. It was awesome 60s-70s-early 80s stuff. I know it started with Led Zep’s “Babe I’m Gonna Leave You”.

301 ClaudeMonet  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 11:07:30pm

re: #231 Irenicum

God I love this place.

Why are you telling this to us? Tell it to God!

302 Boogberg  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 11:13:01pm

re: #285 JasonA

I didn’t find it acceptable until I was in college.

What?

Come to think of it, my civics teacher did have a gleam in her eye when she beat my ass. Little did I know at the time that I actually needed to be aware of the three branches of government. :D

303 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 11:16:34pm

re: #302 Boogberg

Come to think of it, my civics teacher did have a gleam in her eye when she beat my ass. Little did I know at the time that I actually needed to be aware of the three branches of government. :D

NUNS ,, end of story!!

(actually, an addendum,, Sister Mary Agape, 6th grade, Immaculate Conception grammar school would turn her class ring around so the stone was the same side as her palm, come up behind you and open handed whack you on the back of the head WITH the stone!)

304 Boogberg  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 11:23:04pm

Dammit man.

305 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 11:23:12pm

Wow my posts survived the great mass deletion, again, I knew that thread was going to receive a bit of cleaning eventually.

Damn people here tearing into each other makes no sense when the real frigging loons are all out there, and half of them are either in our government already or they want to be soon. ;)

306 Lidane  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 11:25:13pm

re: #266 iceweasel

hey, as decadent lefties, what makes you think Jimmah wouldn’t be there? //

Probably with a video camera and a tripod, too. ;)

If this turns into another BDSM thread some stalker wingnut heads are gonna pop like popcorn.

Good. Let their heads explode. It would just be another bit of decadent leftie fun. Heh.

307 Bagua  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 11:27:22pm

re: #305 ausador

You’re a good egg ausador.

308 iceweasel  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 11:35:51pm

re: #306 Lidane

Good. Let their heads explode. It would just be another bit of decadent leftie fun. Heh.

More of the transnational agenda!1!/

309 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 11:48:33pm

re: #308 iceweasel

More of the transnational agenda!1!/

Next thing you know someone will start talking about rubber vacuum beds.

310 Gus  Thu, Jun 24, 2010 11:54:22pm

George Carlin - Religion

Youtube Video
311 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 12:03:15am

So I am standing outside in front of the stairs smoking a cigarette when one of six inch lizards (wanna-be dragons) from the hedges runs across my bare foot. Next thing I know there is a four foot long snake taking the same path and trying to go right over my foot.

So of course I scream like a little girl and kick the snake off, the snake flies about eight foot in the air and then lands on the stairs hard. I’m looking at the snake and realize it is only a black snake that was out chasing lizards. Now he/she is up on the fifth stair with the wind knocked out of it and I’m responsible.

After about 30 seconds the snake gets it’s second wind and shoots right off the side of the stairway and into the bushs, back on the hunt for the horrible dragon lizards. I wish him luck, and feel bad about launching him into the air before, but what did he expect?

Seriously though I really do wish him luck, the lizards around here aren’t scared of anything, they will come out on the sidewalk and challenge your foot to a fight. They bob up and down, if you lift your toes up and down in response and next thing you know the stupid lizard is trying to bite one of your toes. Nevermind that there are five toes to only one of him, attached to a leg, attached to a human who outweighs him by about a million times.

Oh well, at least Florida is entertaining even in the boring times if nothing else…


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