If you say that there are elephants flying in the sky, people are not going to believe you. But if you say that there are four hundred and twenty-five elephants in the sky, people will probably believe you.
— Gabriel Garc�a M�rquez
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Boogberg Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:35:27pm |
For better or worse, the US has conquered the musical world with hip hop. Dare I say uniquely American? We rule! :D
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Eclectic Infidel Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:36:19pm |
I've given up the search for reality; now I'm just looking for a good fantasy
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Targetpractice Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:38:52pm |
*muttermuttergrumble* Not only does upgrading my iPod Touch to iOS 4 screw up some of my games, but I find out that because it's only a 2nd gen, I can't utilize the really nifty new features.
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HypnoToad Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:46:57pm |
I saw ten thousand stars flying in the sky this last weekend. (Mt. Wilson 60" on globular clusters M5 & M13) It was a good seeing night, the stars were pinpoints.
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Boogberg Thu, Jun 24, 2010 10:49:46pm |
Hey Charles,
I bought that cheapie orange Kodak for my Niece. She's been bugging me for a camera. I thought the iPod would bite the dust after a few weeks but she keeps surprisingly good care of it.
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Kragar Thu, Jun 24, 2010 11:00:35pm |
re: #5 HypnoToad
I saw ten thousand stars flying in the sky this last weekend. (Mt. Wilson 60" on globular clusters M5 & M13) It was a good seeing night, the stars were pinpoints.
I still remember the first time some one handed me some NVG in the field and told me to look up. You could see everything.
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HypnoToad Thu, Jun 24, 2010 11:18:50pm |
There was a thread about the Canon G11 a day ago. I got one a couple of weeks ago and love it. Someone was asking about its low light performance; AWESOME! I did a 15 second exposure on the summer milky way that got much more than the naked eye view of the sky. The galactic bulge along with all the dark dust lanes and a good dozen Messier objects were clearly visible. It would have taken over an hour to do that on good old High Speed Ektachrome. (Yes, I indulged in Jurassic photography)
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ReamWorks SKG Thu, Jun 24, 2010 11:22:56pm |
Even though I'm gay-married, after seeing ads like this, I'm tempted to go to one of those Churches that will convert me back
[Link: www.flickr.com...]
I can't imagine why/how homosexuals would want to stick their necks out to support Hamas--which advocates the death penalty for homosexuality--at the expense of Israel (which has legal protection for gays and lesbians).
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Lidane Thu, Jun 24, 2010 11:32:05pm |
Saw this video earlier and I thought it was pretty cool. Who said Americans don't like soccer?
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Eclectic Infidel Thu, Jun 24, 2010 11:34:28pm |
re: #9 reuven
Even though I'm gay-married, after seeing ads like this, I'm tempted to go to one of those Churches that will convert me back
[Link: www.flickr.com...]
I can't imagine why/how homosexuals would want to stick their necks out to support Hamas--which advocates the death penalty for homosexuality--at the expense of Israel (which has legal protection for gays and lesbians).
The gays and lesbians who insist that Israel is an apartheid and oppressive state are far too ignorant to understand the consequences of their support for "Palestine." This particular crowd is anti-authoritarian and anti-military but fail to realize that Israel, like the U.S., is still the safest place to live for folk of their nature (and yes, I firmly believe that being gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgendered is as naturally occurring as the involuntary act of breathing). Like many people, they have walked into the great debate of Israel/"Palestine" not from the very beginning (pre-1948) but from the Second Intifada; meaning, they care completely ignorant of why Israel has done what it has done to ensure its safety, and they are equally ignorant of the violence and deception perpetuated by Arab nations and organizations. In short, they are products of the new era of passionate politics lacking sorely in facts.
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ReamWorks SKG Thu, Jun 24, 2010 11:40:15pm |
re: #11 eclectic infidel
Another one of the ads this person defaced (and I'm sending a FedEx to the SF Police so they can subpoena flickr and prosecute this person for vandalism) claims that the only reason Israel "claims" to be a welcoming place for G/L/B/T is to deflect attention from their real agenda of oppressing poor little Palestinians.
[Link: www.flickr.com...]
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AK-47% Thu, Jun 24, 2010 11:40:54pm |
Those whose holy scriptures teach them to belive that elephants can fly are much more likely to give credence to reports of flying elephants.
How about flying dogs?
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
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ReamWorks SKG Thu, Jun 24, 2010 11:44:44pm |
re: #14 ralphieboy
Who's scriptures are you talking about? I'm only familiar with the Hebrew bible, and there's the "בהמות" (behemoth) in Job, that IIRC some xtians say is a rhino or an elephant.
And, when I worked for the Walt Disney Company, we had our own scriptures, with our own flying-elephant mythology.
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ReamWorks SKG Thu, Jun 24, 2010 11:46:44pm |
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jun 24, 2010 11:47:42pm |
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freetoken Thu, Jun 24, 2010 11:53:00pm |
4.2, along the same fault as so many of the others since the big one on Easter:
[Link: earthquake.usgs.gov...]
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jun 24, 2010 11:54:52pm |
re: #21 freetoken
4.2, along the same fault as so many of the others since the big one on Easter:
[Link: earthquake.usgs.gov...]
What did you do that displeased the Gods!?!?
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freetoken Thu, Jun 24, 2010 11:56:22pm |
re: #22 sattv4u2
It wasn't me.... it was that guy meditating again.
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AK-47% Thu, Jun 24, 2010 11:57:48pm |
re: #21 freetoken
4.2, along the same fault as so many of the others since the big one on Easter:
[Link: earthquake.usgs.gov...]
It was caused by the impact of all those elphants landing at once.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jun 24, 2010 11:59:10pm |
re: #23 freetoken
It wasn't me... it was that guy meditating again.
I hear there's lots of self medication out there!!
oh ,wait ,, you said mediTation,,,, nevahmind!
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engineer cat Fri, Jun 25, 2010 12:09:04am |
while i am working here late to get this part of the project in tonight, i have been listening to this wonderfully entertaining "documentary" on the youtube where a preacher is purporting to tell you the "secrets of how the elites will control the world over the next year" or so. since the whole thing is 3 90 minute segments, i don't think i'll be ruining the plot too much to tell you that there seems to be a curious emphasis on the message that you should Buy Gold Now!, although the overall megillah is 'very entertaining of its kind'...
the thing that i find the most curious about the whole thing is the convergence where not only this well produced sucker bait is selling gold, but of course glen beck has been flogging it as well
why are the persuasive powers of right wing tin foil hat conspiracy industry concentrated so much these days selling gold?
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Eclectic Infidel Fri, Jun 25, 2010 12:09:38am |
re: #13 reuven
Another one of the ads this person defaced (and I'm sending a FedEx to the SF Police so they can subpoena flickr and prosecute this person for vandalism) claims that the only reason Israel "claims" to be a welcoming place for G/L/B/T is to deflect attention from their real agenda of oppressing poor little Palestinians.
[Link: www.flickr.com...]
This is a sign of oppressing Palestinians?
See:
Since the end of the IDF operation in Gaza (18 Jan 2009) until 5 June 2010, 1,025,686 tons of aid, 49,610 tons of cooking gas and 136,097,330 liters of fuel have been delivered to the Gaza Strip.
and
In 2009 alone, more than 738,000 tons of food and supplies entered Gaza. Pictures in local newspapers show local markets aplenty with fruit, vegetables, cheese, spices, bread and meat to feed 1.4 million Gazans.
Follow the link to educate your friend. (Good Luck)
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 12:11:57am |
re: #26 engineer dog
why are the persuasive powers of right wing tin foil hat conspiracy industry concentrated so much these days selling gold
The left had already cornered the Tye-Dyed T-Shirt and smoking "accessories" industries years ago!!
/
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freetoken Fri, Jun 25, 2010 12:13:36am |
re: #26 engineer dog
Ah yes, the "ruling elite"...
Lindsey Williams has been on Alex Jones' show.
Figures.
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freetoken Fri, Jun 25, 2010 12:14:21am |
re: #26 engineer dog
Speaking of gold, see my new Pages entry. They all love that metal.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 12:17:45am |
re: #26 engineer dog
why are the persuasive powers of right wing tin foil hat conspiracy industry concentrated so much these days selling gold
The left had already cornered the Tye-Dyed T-Shirt and smoking "accessories" industries years ago!!
/
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engineer cat Fri, Jun 25, 2010 12:20:10am |
re: #30 freetoken
Speaking of gold, see my new Pages entry. They all love that metal.
aha - i see that you are already on the trail of this phenomenon...
but - i say, holmes! - what do you suppose it all means? hmmmm...
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 12:21:02am |
okay ,, thats weird. I type, I hit "post this comment". The comment appears with a comment # but the comment itself is still in my dialogue box!
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engineer cat Fri, Jun 25, 2010 12:21:40am |
re: #32 sattv4u2
damn,,, how'd that happen !?!?
that's what you get for mocking The Elites!
bwahahahahah
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 12:22:11am |
re: #35 engineer dog
that's what you get for mocking The Elites!
bwahahahahah
why would I mock my own kind !?!?!
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freetoken Fri, Jun 25, 2010 12:23:07am |
re: #33 engineer dog
but - i say, holmes! - what do you suppose it all means? hmmm...
The end is near?
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Fri, Jun 25, 2010 12:23:58am |
re: #26 engineer dog
why are the persuasive powers of right wing tin foil hat conspiracy industry concentrated so much these days selling gold?
You mean their not talking about acapulco gold? Shit, I need to cancel my order, damn man no wonder the price per ounce seemed a little steep....
///
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 12:25:35am |
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Boogberg Fri, Jun 25, 2010 12:29:23am |
Three day weekend. I need something to crank. I just listened to "incense and peppermints". Love that organ!
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freetoken Fri, Jun 25, 2010 12:33:37am |
re: #26 engineer dog
while i am working here late to get this part of the project in tonight, i have been listening to this wonderfully entertaining "documentary" on the youtube where a preacher is purporting to tell you the "secrets of how the elites will control the world...
Dubai! Dubai!! My God, Dubai!!! Why didn't we figure it out before now!
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Bagua Fri, Jun 25, 2010 12:34:56am |
re: #30 freetoken
Speaking of gold, see my new Pages entry. They all love that metal.
The idea of gold as a safe haven is not new of course. And the desire to horde gold is a natural instinct for humans. Part of this current surge is companies targeting these retail investors willing to pay advertising revenue to the sites or people recommending them. The more revenue they get the more they promote the gold. This is a chance to make some money through sponsorship as what else can they sell other than books?
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 12:39:04am |
re: #42 Bagua
The idea of gold as a safe haven is not new of course. And the desire to horde gold is a natural instinct for humans. Part of this current surge is companies targeting these retail investors willing to pay advertising revenue to the sites or people recommending them. The more revenue they get the more they promote the gold. This is a chance to make some money through sponsorship as what else can they sell other than books?
Greek Islands!?!?
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]
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freetoken Fri, Jun 25, 2010 12:41:20am |
re: #42 Bagua
Did you know that "gold" is a four letter word?
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Bagua Fri, Jun 25, 2010 12:42:06am |
re: #43 sattv4u2
Greek Islands!?!?
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]
Right, and Greek Islands. I forgot about that.
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engineer cat Fri, Jun 25, 2010 12:42:11am |
well, i'm glad that they are emphatically telling people that complex derivatives are the work of satan
i coulda toldja that!!!
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Bagua Fri, Jun 25, 2010 12:43:40am |
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freetoken Fri, Jun 25, 2010 12:44:41am |
re: #47 Bagua
"Gold" should have been added to George Carlin's bit - make it the 8th forbidden word.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 12:45:44am |
re: #47 Bagua
Yes, it has special properties.
I do too
I have two in Georgia, one in Massachusetts and one in South Carolina,, and land in Alabama
(maybe I can swap them all for one of those Greek isles!)
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Fri, Jun 25, 2010 12:48:14am |
I didn't even know that they had remade "Jesus Christ Superstar" color me shocked. Still, This Jesus Must Die.
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Bagua Fri, Jun 25, 2010 12:51:21am |
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freetoken Fri, Jun 25, 2010 12:52:08am |
Wow, that Lindsey Williams has quite the gig going on... I wonder how I could get in on this?
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 12:52:58am |
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 12:53:48am |
re: #52 freetoken
Wow, that Lindsey Williams has quite the gig going on... I wonder how I could get in on this?
easy ,, buy gold!
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Bagua Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:01:09am |
My own suspicion is that gold prices will collapse in the coming recession. It's a commodity and will drop along with the rest when people realise it is a bubble along with a slow down in consumption.
SELL GOLD!
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engineer cat Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:02:42am |
i'm gonna put all my money in tuna fish
and peanut butter
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:03:26am |
re: #55 Bagua
My own suspicion is that gold prices will collapse in the coming recession. It's a commodity and will drop along with the rest when people realise it is a bubble along with a slow down in consumption.
SELL GOLD!
It will drop, but not by much. Those that have bought will hold onto what they have in for the next "crash". Selling soon (after they bought high) makes little to no sense UNLESS they had bought in at $600-$700 and sell relatively soon
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:04:04am |
re: #56 engineer dog
i'm gonna put all my money in tuna fish
and peanut butter
you can tune a piano, but not with peanut butter!
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Bagua Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:07:42am |
re: #56 engineer dog
i'm gonna put all my money in tuna fish
and peanut butter
Fascinating, I went long Tuna futures when the oil well blew up.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:08:14am |
re: #59 Bagua
Fascinating, I went long Tuna futures when the oil well blew up.
I gave up on peanut butter post Carter!
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freetoken Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:11:12am |
Financial deficit spending is awash in paper!
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:11:37am |
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Bagua Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:11:38am |
re: #57 sattv4u2
It will drop, but not by much. Those that have bought will hold onto what they have in for the next "crash". Selling soon (after they bought high) makes little to no sense UNLESS they had bought in at $600-$700 and sell relatively soon
Bagua's Crystal Ball™ says to sell short gold at $1,240. Once it reaches $600 buy it back for a $640 profit.
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freetoken Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:13:48am |
re: #63 sattv4u2
I'm just relating to you what Lindsey Williams claims the "buzzwords" were that the elite told him!
They're supposed to mean something to you.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:13:58am |
re: #65 Boogberg
One of the top three guitarists in the world:
[Video]That was back then though.
I swear he must have had 8 fingers on each hand
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:14:23am |
re: #66 freetoken
I'm just relating to you what Lindsey Williams claims the "buzzwords" were that the elite told him!
They're supposed to mean something to you.
umm,, scuse me !?!?!
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freetoken Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:17:24am |
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:18:25am |
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Bagua Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:18:44am |
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:18:59am |
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:19:49am |
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Bagua Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:20:06am |
re: #70 sattv4u2
that's The Elite to you!
Now that you've broken your confidentiality agreement you will be getting a phone call.
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engineer cat Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:22:50am |
i'm afraid i've checked in my project for the night before the apocalypse happened and now i'm gonna have to wait for tomorrow to be enslaved by the elites
later...
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ryannon Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:24:14am |
re: #26 engineer dog
while i am working here late to get this part of the project in tonight, i have been listening to this wonderfully entertaining "documentary" on the youtube where a preacher is purporting to tell you the "secrets of how the elites will control the world over the next year" or so. since the whole thing is 3 90 minute segments, i don't think i'll be ruining the plot too much to tell you that there seems to be a curious emphasis on the message that you should Buy Gold Now!, although the overall megillah is 'very entertaining of its kind'...
the thing that i find the most curious about the whole thing is the convergence where not only this well produced sucker bait is selling gold, but of course glen beck has been flogging it as well
why are the persuasive powers of right wing tin foil hat conspiracy industry concentrated so much these days selling gold?
It's a lot like the real-estate business before the crash: for the moment, everyone stands to make money on creating a bubble.
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ryannon Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:27:37am |
re: #47 Bagua
Yes, it has special properties.
Yes, Jews hoard it, so it must be valuable. It's also possible that they make it using ancient alchemical secrets.
What an exciting thing to own!
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freetoken Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:29:29am |
Inflation! Big!
/heh, this guy's got some real prophecy going on...
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:30:33am |
re: #82 freetoken
Inflation! Big!
/heh, this guy's got some real prophecy going on...
sometimes, the obvious must be stated
(not everyone listens the 1st 20 or so times)!
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freetoken Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:31:40am |
In the immediate, no relief!
/that was the seventh, and last, magic buzzword that you Elites keep uttering.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:33:41am |
re: #80 Boogberg
re: #67 sattv4u2
They had that album playing on the record store turntable back in the day and I immediately bought the half-speed mastered album. Man, talk about sweet sounding! CDs were still a glimmer in some geeks eyes. :)
His collaborations with Chick Corea, Stanley Clark, Al Di Meola along with various others and vocalists was mesmerizing
Saw them (Return to Forever) back in Boston in the 70's
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AK-47% Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:34:08am |
re: #81 ryannon
Yes, Jews hoard it, so it must be valuable. It's also possible that they make it using ancient alchemical secrets.
What an exciting thing to own!
The point is that it is always going to have (and retain) a certain inherent value, regardless of how high the market pumps up the price.
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ryannon Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:35:34am |
re: #86 ralphieboy
The point is that it is always going to have (and retain) a certain inherent value, regardless of how high the market pumps up the price.
Sure, so will lead.
What's your point again?
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:38:22am |
re: #87 ryannon
Sure, so will lead.
What's your point again?
Ones not needed
It's the overnight crowd !!!
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ryannon Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:40:04am |
re: #86 ralphieboy
The point is that it is always going to have (and retain) a certain inherent value, regardless of how high the market pumps up the price.
I'm not being hostile here. It's just that the 'inherent value' is always arbitrary. At one point not long ago, you could pick up gold for a few hundred dollars an ounce. Today, it's around $1,200. It will never be totally worthless, but then again, neither will be any other metal, precious or otherwise. Even empty Coca-Cola cans have an inherent value. Gold just happens to be on top of the precious metals pyramid and has all sorts of romantic and aesthetic associations.
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ryannon Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:41:54am |
re: #88 sattv4u2
Ones not needed
It's the overnight crowd !!!
Ain't it da troof!
It's the best time on this forum, with all the best people!
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Boogberg Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:43:17am |
re: #85 sattv4u2
My best friend was all into Jimmy Page and Zeppelin and thought Jimmy was the best. Oh Noez! He's like 'Damn. Who's that?' lol
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:44:03am |
re: #90 ryannon
Ain't it da troof!
It's the best time on this forum, with all the best people!
I'll have to leave, then
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ryannon Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:45:55am |
No!
If you're here, you're automatically one of the best.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:46:22am |
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:47:17am |
re: #94 ryannon
No!
If you're here, you're automatically one of the best.
And all this time I thought it was because i drew the short straw and pulled the overnight shift at work for several months!
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ryannon Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:47:26am |
We are the Keepers of the Sacred Forum Flame which must never go out. We are an elite group!
ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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ryannon Fri, Jun 25, 2010 1:48:47am |
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:12:28am |
re: #98 ryannon
Those guys need to avoid Arizona.
Why ,, they're all legal
Now these guys ,, not so much !!
Image: illegal-immigrants-jumping-border-fence.jpg
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AK-47% Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:16:08am |
re: #89 ryannon
Gold just happens to be on top of the precious metals pyramid and has all sorts of romantic and aesthetic associations.
Gold has advantages over lead and other metals in that it is non-toxic, relatively easy to store and transport and has a nearly unlimited shelf life.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:17:10am |
re: #101 ralphieboy
Gold has advantages over lead and other metals in that it is non-toxic, relatively easy to store and transport and has a nearly unlimited shelf life.
Plus it looks a lot better as 'bling"!
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Boogberg Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:35:55am |
Wake your asses up, dammit! I'm off today and ready to debate.
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:00:54am |
Apologies if this has been posted....I'm not the kind of person who typically watches baby videos, but this is one of the cutest things I've ever seen: Excited Dog and Baby Playing
I found myself getting hyperanxious that the dog would get too excited and nip the baby, or the baby would bump his head on the table at one point-- but it's all good.
At the very end the dog creeps up to the baby and licks him very gently on the face. Totally adorable.
/this had damn well better not be a latent nesting instinct. Damn you Jimmah! Damn yoooou! :-)
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AK-47% Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:19:45am |
re: #105 iceweasel
Apologies if this has been posted...I'm not the kind of person who typically watches baby videos, but this is one of the cutest things I've ever seen: Excited Dog and Baby Playing
[Video]
I found myself getting hyperanxious that the dog would get too excited and nip the baby, or the baby would bump his head on the table at one point-- but it's all good.
At the very end the dog creeps up to the baby and licks him very gently on the face. Totally adorable.
/this had damn well better not be a latent nesting instinct. Damn you Jimmah! Damn yooou! :-)
Only problem I have is with the pacifier. I mean, I thought one stuffs it in a kid's mouth to keep it from making noise. An obvious fail in this case...
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:27:05am |
Good Morning Lizards!
Ice, Great vid. I love the cackle a laughing baby makes.
Off to work. Happy Friday to All Lizards!
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freetoken Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:28:24am |
re: #105 iceweasel
Knew a family who once had a Shelty, and it was wonderful with the babies. They appear to be very good dogs to be around children.
Oh, and that table - yes, one day that kid is going to hit one of those corners. I can't stand "coffee tables", especially the type in the video, and have refused to ever have one in my dwellings. Yeah, call me weird, but that type of furniture doesn't seem to serve any purpose but to be shin damager.
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:35:56am |
re: #109 freetoken
Knew a family who once had a Shelty, and it was wonderful with the babies. They appear to be very good dogs to be around children.
Oh, and that table - yes, one day that kid is going to hit one of those corners. I can't stand "coffee tables", especially the type in the video, and have refused to ever have one in my dwellings. Yeah, call me weird, but that type of furniture doesn't seem to serve any purpose but to be shin damager.
The dog is gorgeous, and he does seem to be good with the baby-- having no dog and no baby, I'm probably hyperanxious about it. Don't have the experience.
There is that one point near the end when the baby is crawling near and under the table's edge where if I'd been there I'd probably have wanted to lurch forward and grab him. Little head too close to sharp edge!
The baby's laugh is just so sweet though. Anyway, thought it might be a nice thing to start off people's day.
(h/t balloon juice for vid)
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AK-47% Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:39:16am |
re: #109 freetoken
Knew a family who once had a Shelty, and it was wonderful with the babies. They appear to be very good dogs to be around children.
Oh, and that table - yes, one day that kid is going to hit one of those corners. I can't stand "coffee tables", especially the type in the video, and have refused to ever have one in my dwellings. Yeah, call me weird, but that type of furniture doesn't seem to serve any purpose but to be shin damager.
I still have a 1/4" dent in the middle of my forehead, a souveneir of when I took my first steps as a baby, and bashed it open on the corner of the damn coffee table!
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ryannon Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:39:54am |
re: #110 freetoken
Beware The Elite!
The Elite doesn't see anything to be-ware of.
Unless you mean coffee tables.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:41:50am |
re: #113 ryannon
The Elite doesn't see anything to be-ware of.
Unless you mean coffee tables.
In the future, only the TRUE Elite will have coffee tables ,,,
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ryannon Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:43:38am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:45:13am |
re: #112 ralphieboy
I still have a 1/4" dent in the middle of my forehead, a souveneir of when I took my first steps as a baby, and bashed it open on the corner of the damn coffee table!
Coffee tables have taken out as many kids as monkey bars have.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:45:25am |
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:46:09am |
re: #116 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Coffee tables have taken out as many kids as monkey bars have.
kids are wimps today because of the lack of monkey bars on playgrounds
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Boogberg Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:50:26am |
re: #118 sattv4u2
Oak trees were our monkey bars. Anything to get elevated from where you were. :)
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:52:19am |
re: #119 Boogberg
Oak trees were our monkey bars. Anything to get elevated from where you were. :)
getting "high" in my neighborhood meant something WAY different!
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Boogberg Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:58:09am |
re: #120 sattv4u2
Oh I remember well. It was a high school kid who corrupted me. He'd roll joints on his parent's coffee table after school.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:59:40am |
re: #120 sattv4u2
getting "high" in my neighborhood meant something WAY different!
He must have been an elitist
We did ours by the monkey bars
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:04:26am |
re: #123 Boogberg
Futures are up a pubic hair. Could go either way.
huh?? they've been down between 3-17 points all morning (-5 right now)
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Boogberg Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:07:11am |
re: #124 sattv4u2
Well SPY is trading just a tad over even right now.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:17:49am |
OK,
I'm back. I know you guys missed me, but let's just carry on.
Still talking about GOLD!!!11!! or have we moved on to SEEDS!!11!! ?
//
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Boogberg Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:19:38am |
Which is a better conductor of electricity? Gold or copper?
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:19:40am |
re: #127 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Coffee tables.
Is that the cool new place for conservatives to stash our cash?
//
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:20:38am |
FBV,
I was glad to hear that the hospital is providing your daughter's boyfriend's care for free.
Isn't that 4 years early?//
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:20:58am |
heh ,, reading comments about the Al Gore/ Massuese story
He will blame it on Gonad Warming.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:21:00am |
re: #129 rwdflynavy
Is that the cool new place for conservatives to stash our cash?
//
Nah, just another form of population reduction without all the pesky ethical/moral questions.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:21:58am |
re: #130 rwdflynavy
They were going to have to do it for free anyway.... may as well save all the billing and Patient Accounts personnel expense.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:23:11am |
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ReamWorks SKG Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:23:47am |
re: #123 Boogberg
I BELIEVE ANITA! (To bring this back to the subject of SCOTUS nominations)
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:23:52am |
re: #134 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Can you hear Al Gore getting it?
Shudder...
He should have kept it in what I like to call a "lock box".
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:24:04am |
re: #131 sattv4u2
heh ,, reading comments about the Al Gore/ Massuese story
He will blame it on Gonad Warming.
another
This story will not have a happy ending
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:24:26am |
re: #137 sattv4u2
another
This story will not have a happy ending
and
Now we know what they meant when they said Al was wooden.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:26:59am |
re: #138 sattv4u2
and
Now we know what they meant when they said Al was wooden.
and
Big Al mistook her for his Nobel "Piece" Prize
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Boogberg Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:27:04am |
re: #135 reuven
I BELIEVE ANITA! (To bring this back to the subject of SCOTUS nominations)
I believe Anita too. I believe Anita 'nother beer. :D
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ReamWorks SKG Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:27:28am |
re: #112 ralphieboy
If you had been the child of a Cabinet Member, rectangular or square coffee tables would have been outlawed!
Don't believe me? Google: "The Virginia Graeme Baker Pool and Spa Safety Act"
(I don't know if I should add the sarcasm /// to avoid being flamed here! I never know with this crowd.)
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ReamWorks SKG Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:31:22am |
re: #64 Bagua
If you've been buying it, it's certainly time to stop, using the "stop when everyone's talking about it" rule of investing.
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SixDegrees Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:35:01am |
re: #128 Boogberg
Copper is about the best conductor you can find. Silver is somewhat better, but not enough to justify its additional cost.
Gold, in fact, isn't a very good conductor compared to other metals. It does have the advantage of being almost completely corrosion and oxidation resistant, so what conductivity it has is retained unchanged with age, while copper connectors can lose much of their conductivity as a copper oxide film develops.
In real-world applications, though, this isn't a legitimate concern. Connectors are typically hard, cleanable and conductive enough to satisfy all reasonable requirements, and the advantages of precious metals nowhere near outweigh their enormous costs.
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SixDegrees Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:37:46am |
re: #142 reuven
If you've been buying it, it's certainly time to stop, using the "stop when everyone's talking about it" rule of investing.
Like bagua, I've been seriously considering taking a short position on gold, although I'm not sure if the potential return is worthwhile. If I can find a double-short fund, it might be a fun, if slightly speculative, risk.
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Boogberg Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:38:39am |
Dick Bove just said buy banks! Citigroup is nice and cheap.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:39:19am |
heeee's BAAA-AAcckkk
Eliot Spitzer hooks CNN gig
[Link: www.bostonherald.com...]
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laZardo Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:40:19am |
Evening Honcos.
For those who weren't here earlier, it's been sixty years of a war truly without end...
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laZardo Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:41:04am |
re: #146 Boogberg
Dick Bove just said buy banks! Citigroup is nice and cheap.
And be complicit in the oncoming double-dip recession?
/old joke by now...
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ryannon Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:42:14am |
re: #128 Boogberg
Which is a better conductor of electricity? Gold or copper?
Gold, of course. Thanks to my gold fillings, I get 120 channels of HDTV right in my haid!
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Boogberg Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:42:33am |
re: #143 SixDegrees
That's what I thought. Gold plated patch cord connectors are a crock of shit.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:42:50am |
re: #147 sattv4u2
heee's BAAA-AAcckkk
Eliot Spitzer hooks CNN gig
[Link: www.bostonherald.com...]
I guess he couldn't get Abramoff's sweet pizza gig...//
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:43:48am |
re: #143 SixDegrees
Copper is about the best conductor you can find. Silver is somewhat better, but not enough to justify its additional cost.
Gold, in fact, isn't a very good conductor compared to other metals. It does have the advantage of being almost completely corrosion and oxidation resistant, so what conductivity it has is retained unchanged with age, while copper connectors can lose much of their conductivity as a copper oxide film develops.
In real-world applications, though, this isn't a legitimate concern. Connectors are typically hard, cleanable and conductive enough to satisfy all reasonable requirements, and the advantages of precious metals nowhere near outweigh their enormous costs.
But non-hybrid gold is a better conductor...
//
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ryannon Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:44:34am |
re: #151 Boogberg
That's what I thought. Gold plated patch cord connectors are a crock of shit.
120 channels, cable included, I'm telling ya'!
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:45:19am |
re: #153 rwdflynavy
But non-hybrid gold is a better conductor...
//
BEST conductor
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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ReamWorks SKG Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:46:17am |
re: #145 SixDegrees
I'm actually a bit of a gold bug, having been slowly accumulating some physical gold over the past couple of decades, and I have much more in exchange-traded gold and silver (i.e., GLD, etc). It's just not practical to hold a lot of physical gold.
I've stop accumulating, and have moved it to a "hold"
IMHO Gold isn't an investment--it only serves two purposes:
1. WTSHTF scenario. I'm not *that* concerned, but I do have to realize that all 4 of my grandparents had to get up and move all of a sudden back in their day. (2 came via what's now Lithuania, 1 from Belarus, and 1 was kicked out of Gaza City in 1929--that makes me a "Palestinian Refugee" but for the fact I'm the wrong religion, but that's a whole 'nother discussion.) This, of course, is what the physical gold is good for.
2. As "shock absorbers" for your portfolio. In theory, it should go up when the dollar drops. This is what the exchange-traded gold (not mining stocks) is good for. However, IMHO, the prices have risen more than they should have. Our stock market, too, is dangerously overpriced by historical standards, but since the Government is holding interest rates artificially low there aren't many options.)
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ReamWorks SKG Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:51:41am |
re: #144 Boogberg
[Link: www.poolsafety.gov...]
The backstory: "The act was named after the granddaughter of Secretary of State James A. Baker III, whose life was cut tragically short by a suction entrapment in a family spa during a birthday party. She didn't need to die to pass this law, but she will be forever remembered."
It was a tragic accident, but this was a 7-year old girl, unattended in a HOT TUB. (I just sent my lawyer an email to see if he can search for any lawsuit against the tub's manufacturer.) As the owner of a hot tub (I am a Californian, after all), I can tell you they warn you up/down/left/right about leaving kids unattended in these.
Anyway, I have a law I'd love to see passed. Let's call it "Reuven's Law". It prevents people from naming laws after dead little girls.
(And, no, people, I'm not heartless. I just don't believe in overreaction to a tragedy.)
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Boogberg Fri, Jun 25, 2010 5:01:57am |
re: #158 reuven
I hear ya. Here in Florida, we lose roughly one kid per year because of unsupervised children + swimming pools.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 5:03:21am |
Man Admits Killing Neighbor With Knife, Fork
[Link: www.wsbtv.com...]
I wonder if he had his napkin tucked into his collar or had it on his lap??
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ReamWorks SKG Fri, Jun 25, 2010 5:05:18am |
re: #159 Boogberg
You, personally, lose 1 child/year? Because it's MUCH more than 1/year statewide
Florida has the highest drowning death rate in the US for children ages 1-4 years (8.9/100,000) and during 1999-2003 recorded 356 unintentional drowning deaths among children in this age group. In children under age 5, swimming pool drownings are most common (68%).This study reports information about 58 swimming pool deaths in children ages 1-4 based on data collected from investigations completed by the Consumer Product Safety Commission during 2003-2006.
Source: [Link: apha.confex.com...]
Of couse, Florida will spend much more money trying to protect against the 0.5 death a year from children being abducted by strangers and murdered than they will for the ~100+ kids a year who die in swimming pools. You have to have your priorities.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jun 25, 2010 5:11:09am |
re: #161 reuven
You, personally, lose 1 child/year? Because it's MUCH more than 1/year statewide
Source: [Link: apha.confex.com...]Of couse, Florida will spend much more money trying to protect against the 0.5 death a year from children being abducted by strangers and murdered than they will for the ~100+ kids a year who die in swimming pools. You have to have your priorities.
I have had a hot tub in the past (and hope to get another one this fall) and took excessive precautions to keep my kids out unsupervised (I installed eye-bolts and used ratcheting straps to strap the top down). There is no excuse for something like this happening in a hot tub. Pools are trickier, but there are plenty of things you can do to keep kids out when adults aren't out.
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Boogberg Fri, Jun 25, 2010 5:11:59am |
re: #161 reuven
Yeah that's pretty pathetic. Parenting test anyone? I'd consider it.
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ryannon Fri, Jun 25, 2010 5:13:09am |
re: #162 rwdflynavy
I have had a hot tub in the past (and hope to get another one this fall) and took excessive precautions to keep my kids out unsupervised (I installed eye-bolts and used ratcheting straps to strap the top down). There is no excuse for something like this happening in a hot tub. Pools are trickier, but there are plenty of things you can do to keep kids out when adults aren't out.
Alligators are cheap and easy to come by in Florida.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jun 25, 2010 5:13:43am |
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 5:14:23am |
re: #161 reuven
100+ kids a year comes out to about 1 every 3-4 days, but because of the nature of the accident they are more likely than not a local story, not statewide (unless it's someone famous).
When some scumsucker abducts a child and commits murder, it's a bigger "story" almost BECAUSE it (Thank God) doesn't happen often
Dog bites man
Man bites dog
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 5:14:56am |
re: #164 ryannon
Alligators are cheap and easy to come by in Florida.
Usually around last call time!!
/
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ryannon Fri, Jun 25, 2010 5:19:28am |
re: #167 sattv4u2
Usually around last call time!!
/
Speaking of which, the Day Shift should be coming on line soon....
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ReamWorks SKG Fri, Jun 25, 2010 5:20:45am |
And I got to get to work...and it's FRIDAY!
Good Shabbos, everyone, and catch y'all Sunday
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 5:21:18am |
re: #165 rwdflynavy
Tasty too!
surprisingly, they are (albeit, if cooked properly)
I have a condo in the South Carolina "low country" and many restaurants there serve it in one form or another
The condo is overlooking a pond on a golf course. There are at least 2 gators living in the pond. If you lose a ball in that water hazard, just hit another!
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laZardo Fri, Jun 25, 2010 5:29:58am |
From (a chat-generated-from-a-database) FML:
Today, I was home on leave and having breakfast with my parents and my younger brothers. I guess I got too used to the rougher language around the Army barracks where I'm stationed. At the breakfast table I asked my Mom to "pass me the F*ing butter". FML
Agreed: 15099 Deserved it: 41237
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Boogberg Fri, Jun 25, 2010 5:36:43am |
My Mom hates the word 'fuck'. When I use it in her presence, she knows I'm pissed.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 5:38:14am |
re: #173 Boogberg
My Mom hates the word 'fuck'. When I use it in her presence, she knows I'm pissed.
heh,, mine knew to keep her ear away from my bedroom door!!!
//
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Boogberg Fri, Jun 25, 2010 5:43:11am |
re: #174 sattv4u2
My Mom tore my bedroom door down with a hammer because I refused her demands to open it. It was a rebellious teenager thing. :D
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 5:43:54am |
re: #175 Boogberg
My Mom tore my bedroom door down with a hammer because I refused her demands to open it. It was a rebellious teenager thing. :D
you had a teenage mother?
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SixDegrees Fri, Jun 25, 2010 5:44:21am |
re: #162 rwdflynavy
I have had a hot tub in the past (and hope to get another one this fall) and took excessive precautions to keep my kids out unsupervised (I installed eye-bolts and used ratcheting straps to strap the top down). There is no excuse for something like this happening in a hot tub. Pools are trickier, but there are plenty of things you can do to keep kids out when adults aren't out.
Agree. Sadly, this summer - like every summer I can remember - a few children will be roasted alive in parked cars, left there "just for a minute" while their caretakers went about their business elsewhere. The most depressing thing about these incidents is the senseless repetition; as a parent, wouldn't hearing about such a thing just once keep you from ever doing such a thing yourself?
The lesson that responsibility begins with yourself seems to be a hard one for some.
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Boogberg Fri, Jun 25, 2010 5:45:43am |
re: #176 sattv4u2
Almost. I think she was 21 when I was born, smartass.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 5:48:28am |
re: #177 SixDegrees
Agree. Sadly, this summer - like every summer I can remember - a few children will be roasted alive in parked cars, left there "just for a minute" while their caretakers went about their business elsewhere. The most depressing thing about these incidents is the senseless repetition; as a parent, wouldn't hearing about such a thing just once keep you from ever doing such a thing yourself?
The lesson that responsibility begins with yourself seems to be a hard one for some.
infuriating!
At best, that caretaker should be in a non air-conditioned southern state prison for the rest of their time
I'd get myself banned if I typed what I would really want the punishment to be.
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Boogberg Fri, Jun 25, 2010 5:53:50am |
re: #177 SixDegrees
as a parent, wouldn't hearing about such a thing just once keep you from ever doing such a thing yourself?
Damn right it would. We still get the same tired excuses though. "Momentary lapse of reason". Then when you go to prosecute, it's "haven't these poor parents suffered enough?" Parenting test. You fail the test, your children are confiscated.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 5:56:20am |
OT/ RANDOM THOUGHT (actually overheard on a radio talk show)
All those people in the country calling on a ban of BP. Think 1st, please
BP has stated many times it will pay FULLY for all damages. Now, whether they do is another story, BUT, wouldn't carrying out a ban on them HINDER them in doing that?
AND, if they do take a huge hit due to a ban, what follows. Bankruptcy?
AND,, if they go bankrupt/ out of business, who DOES pay all the damages?
hmmm,,not them ,,, hmmm,,, ruh roh ,,, US ,, yup, the very people that participated in the BAN .
Good Thinking !!!
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 5:57:53am |
re: #180 Boogberg
Damn right it would. We still get the same tired excuses though. "Momentary lapse of reason". Then when you go to prosecute, it's "haven't these poor parents suffered enough?" Parenting test. You fail the test, your children are confiscated.
how bout you pass the test BEFORE you have the kid(s)
You can't drive BEFORE you take the test
You can't practice law BEFORE you pass the bar
//(somewhat)
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Boogberg Fri, Jun 25, 2010 5:59:08am |
re: #181 sattv4u2
I'm thinking of buying some $20 strike puts.
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Boogberg Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:03:25am |
re: #182 sattv4u2
No, you can't control peoples' reproduction you sick bastard. But you damn sure can legislate after the kid is born. :D
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:08:44am |
Good Morning Staters, Conflaters and G8ers
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:09:29am |
I see Hot Air is covering the bogus bomb story this morning.
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:14:06am |
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:16:25am |
re: #5 HypnoToad
I was there too. They had some problem with the tracking electronics, and rolled out the smaller telescopes and set them up around the Copernicus statue. Sunday was a great night sky. Griffith Observatory is a must see place.
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Boogberg Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:16:51am |
I'm glad the President supports credit card reform. If you've ever slogged through a "cardholder agreement", you know what an absolute crock of shit it is.
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:21:58am |
re: #168 ryannon
Speaking of which, the Day Shift should be coming on line soon...
*sound of punch card machine*
Okay I'm clocked in. Good Morning.
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:24:12am |
re: #192 lawhawk
I like to follow that up with some Genesis , from their progressive days...
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:24:22am |
re: #194 Rightwingconspirator
*sound of punch card machine*
Okay I'm clocked in. Good Morning.
Hey, RWC.
Did you get my e-mails from yesterday?
Were they helpful?
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:25:33am |
re: #189 MandyManners
How're the tads?
We've had some warmer and sunny weather here the past few days and they're growing fast. Most of them have back legs now and some of them are starting to take on a frog-like shape. I'm trying to catch photos of their development but it's really hard to get good quality pics.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:25:46am |
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:27:25am |
re: #197 Killgore Trout
We've had some warmer and sunny weather here the past few days and they're growing fast. Most of them have back legs now and some of them are starting to take on a frog-like shape. I'm trying to catch photos of their development but it's really hard to get good quality pics.
I wanna' see!
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:30:38am |
re: #199 MandyManners
I wanna' see!
I think the hardest pic to get is going to be a completed frog. Once they start wandering around the garden they're going to be very difficult to find. I'll see what i can do.
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:30:50am |
re: #198 reine.de.tout
How is your Mom?
She's on oxygen at times when her monitor shows her levels are down and she rarely goes outside. From what I can tell, she's drinking cough syrup like crazy.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:30:59am |
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:31:44am |
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:31:57am |
re: #200 Killgore Trout
I think the hardest pic to get is going to be a completed frog. Once they start wandering around the garden they're going to be very difficult to find. I'll see what i can do.
Itty-bitty tracking chips?
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Ojoe Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:32:31am |
Sharon Angle, Ms. "people on unemployment are spoiled"
Has top billing over at Newsmax right now.
I did not read the article all the way to see if it features her fine regard of the jobless, 'cause I can't stand those kind of s**t political articles.
Anyway, good morning.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:32:33am |
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:32:35am |
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:35:41am |
re: #206 Killgore Trout
Maybe next year.
well,, if I have to wait that long, you better make it several. I'm sure to be hungrier by then!!
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:35:42am |
re: #196 reine.de.tout
Hi
I did. I think I should forward rather than re-create. I can not say it any better.
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:38:17am |
re: #203 Killgore Trout
Derivatives "Yes"
Jobs bill "No"
Just another day in DC.
Well later I'll page a roll call if there was one. Both bills in contrast.
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:39:39am |
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:41:03am |
re: #210 Rightwingconspirator
Derivatives "Yes"
Jobs bill "No"
Just another day in DC.Well later I'll page a roll call if there was one. Both bills in contrast.
Yeah, it seems a pretty mixed bag of good and bad stuff. The lefties are pretty pissed off about it. I suppose it's better than nothing.
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laZardo Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:41:45am |
re: #210 Rightwingconspirator
Derivatives "Yes"
Jobs bill "No"
Just another day in DC.
Speaking of Genesis, think twice...
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Ojoe Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:42:27am |
re: #210 Rightwingconspirator
Derivatives "Yes"
Jobs bill "No"
Just another day in DC.
If they keep it up, there will be a point where the people throw them all out.
Right now the two party game still works, but barely.
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lawhawk Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:42:58am |
re: #195 Rightwingconspirator
Good choice. I'm a big fan of Genesis. Lamb Lies Down is awesome, but I also like Trick of the Tail.
One of my faves is Ripples from Trick of the Tail:
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:43:04am |
re: #212 Killgore Trout
Now that it is passes, scrutiny will fade I fear. Uptick rule? I fear it is all a charade, and we are just as vulnerable as ever. This reform makes Bud Light look like a stout beer.
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lawhawk Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:44:09am |
Today marks the 4th anniversary since Hamas captured Gilad Shalit and killed two other soldier in a raid expressly designed to capture Israeli soldiers to use them as bargaining chips for the release of hundreds of terrorists from Israeli jails.
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laZardo Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:44:51am |
re: #217 lawhawk
Sadly, I wouldn't be surprised if he'd been "turned" if he's still alive.
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:44:56am |
re: #212 Killgore Trout
Yeah, it seems a pretty mixed bag of good and bad stuff. The lefties are pretty pissed off about it. I suppose it's better than nothing.
high finance is way over my head...I have no opinion except I'm sure it will make it easier for BO to control the economy and our lives...I feel oppressed already (or maybe I have gas)
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:45:55am |
re: #217 lawhawk
Today marks the 4th anniversary since Hamas captured Gilad Shalit and killed two other soldier in a raid expressly designed to capture Israeli soldiers to use them as bargaining chips for the release of hundreds of terrorists from Israeli jails.
Hundreds of terrorists HAVE been released from Israeli jails since then
Shalit, not so much
God be with you, brave son!
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:47:04am |
re: #217 lawhawk
Today marks the 4th anniversary since Hamas captured Gilad Shalit and killed two other soldier in a raid expressly designed to capture Israeli soldiers to use them as bargaining chips for the release of hundreds of terrorists from Israeli jails.
the IDF should be swarming Gaza until he is found, returned or proven dead
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lawhawk Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:47:28am |
re: #218 laZardo
I didn't hold out much hope that he was alive last year, but Hamas did release video showing him reading from a then current newspaper. To release that video, Israel had to agree to the early release of several hundred Palestinians held in Israeli jails.
Hamas continues to refuse humanitarian aid groups access to Shalit, claiming that it would compromise their security.
Never mind that this is the "democratically" elected representatives of the Palestinians. They are a terror organization and remain true to their founding principles - the destruction of Israel by any and all means at their disposal.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:48:37am |
And on that note, the long drive home beckons
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:49:38am |
re: #216 Rightwingconspirator
Now that it is passes, scrutiny will fade I fear. Uptick rule? I fear it is all a charade, and we are just as vulnerable as ever. This reform makes Bud Light look like a stout beer.
Reading the article in Huffington, what I found most interesting was that all the compromises that eventually watered down the bill were compromises instigated and approved by Democrats, since the Republicans once again decided to stay unanimously against the bill in any form.
The weaknesses of this bill can only be laid in the laps of the Democrats. The GOP may be the party of NO, but the Democrats are doing a good job of proving they are the party of CAN'T.
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lawhawk Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:51:06am |
Oh, and I must have missed the ongoing peaceful situation in Gaza, because terrorists fired 9 mortars and rockets yesterday from Gaza at Israeli kibbutzim. No injuries and the IDF responded by going after a couple of smuggling tunnels and a warehouse in Gaza.
The attack was a response to the firing of a rocket and mortar shells at western Negev communities on Thursday. The IDF stressed that Hamas was "a terrorist organization which is fully responsible for the events in the Strip."On Thursday evening, a Qassam rocket exploded near a kibbutz north of the Gaza Strip, shortly after two mortar shells exploded south of a kibbutz in Shaar Hanegev Regional Council.
A total of nine mortar shells and one rocket were fired at Israel on Thursday, causing no injuries or damage.
Attacks from Gaza have increased in recent days, luckily, without causing any damage or injures. Nine days ago, after a week and a half of relative calm, fire on the western Negev from Gaza resumed, when a Qassam hit an open area in the Eshkol Regional Council.
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lawhawk Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:51:38am |
re: #225 lawhawk
Oh, and all that comes as Israel has relaxed its ban on materials allowed in to Gaza. Coincidence? I don't think so.
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Ojoe Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:53:05am |
re: #224 Walter L. Newton
The GOP may be the party of NO, but the Democrats are doing a good job of proving they are the party of CAN'T.
Time for the Modern Whig Party
The Whigs and the American Centrists have just joined up.
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Boogberg Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:55:21am |
re: #215 lawhawk
Good choice. I'm a big fan of Genesis. Lamb Lies Down is awesome, but I also like Trick of the Tail.
One of my faves is Ripples from Trick of the Tail:
[Video]
Me too, man. I love that song. I like the one about the little rat creature too. Dissolving in a pool of tears? Awesome.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:00:17am |
re: #227 Ojoe
Time for the Modern Whig Party
The Whigs and the American Centrists have just joined up.
Which is a prime indication that the Modern Whig Party has not been able to make much if any inroads into the political process. One shows their weakness when they have to "share" ideologies, positions and policies with another group.
What do you get, meaningless compromises... sort of like the Democrats crafted in the financial reform bill. Weaken compromises that codifies the bad behavior of the financial institutions.
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Slap Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:02:50am |
re: #215 lawhawk
I agree. Much as I deeply admire Peter Gabriel, I'm almost inclined to think Trick is their most balanced, successful LP, on all fronts.
I was also a big fan of Phil Collins's side project from that time period, Brand X. (And Percy Jones, the bass player, just FLOORS me.) This was far more than a vanity project.
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:03:08am |
Due to the Palestinian Authority's continuing control of the formal education system in the Gaza Strip, Hamas has had to rely on informal methods to radicalize children and create the next generation of adherents to Hamas' radical ideas. The Al-Fateh website brings that mission into the 21st century, preaching "ideals" such as the denial of the existence of the state of Israel and glorification of martyrdom.
The Al-Fateh website places a large amount of anti-Israel and pro-Jihadist material at the fingertips of children surfing the web. The website never calls Israel by its actual name, referring to it instead as the "Zionist entity," "the cursed state," the "state of the monstrous entity," the "criminal state," the "alleged entity," and the "thieving usurping entity." Al-Fateh calls for the violent destruction of Israel, describes Jews as 'the lowest of the human race,' and even makes statements that call out to God to kill the Jews. The website's violent rhetoric is not limited to Israel, however, at points threatening the United States:
SNIP
What? No blood-libel?
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:08:20am |
re: #227 Ojoe
Time for the Modern Whig Party
The Whigs and the American Centrists have just joined up.
Someone should form the Modern Mherkin Party.
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Boogberg Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:09:26am |
Brand X was off my radar but I likee. All the Genesis guys are very talented.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:09:53am |
re: #230 Slap
Arguably the greatest pop song of all time was recorded by Peter Gabriel.
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:10:50am |
re: #224 Walter L. Newton
Reading the article in Huffington, what I found most interesting was that all the compromises that eventually watered down the bill were compromises instigated and approved by Democrats, since the Republicans once again decided to stay unanimously against the bill in any form.
The weaknesses of this bill can only be laid in the laps of the Democrats. The GOP may be the party of NO, but the Democrats are doing a good job of proving they are the party of CAN'T.
Long live,
The derivative.
Unemployed,
Are underjoyed.
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:11:18am |
re: #234 Boogberg
Brand X was off my radar but I likee. All the Genesis guys are very talented.
Phil Collins can barely play the drums anymore...he cannot hold the sticks due to arthritis or some related problem
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Boogberg Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:11:30am |
re: #235 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Not to mention the ground-breaking video. :)
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Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:12:12am |
Nice...the "honest services law" receives a heavy pruning from the SCOTUS.
Now the gov't will have to prove that you actually broke the law, which seems rather straightforward to me, but i'm no congressman...
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:12:22am |
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abolitionist Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:12:47am |
Scientific Reasons to Believe in Vampires, Werewolves & Zombies
One dark and stormy evening, Spanish neurologist Juan Gomez-Alonso was watching a vampire movie when he realized something strange; he noticed that vampires behave an awful lot like people with rabies.
[snip]
There's a different explanation for zombies.
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Boogberg Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:13:50am |
re: #237 albusteve
Sorry to hear that. I grew up with that guy's music. He can do other stuff though. He's a musical genius.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:16:16am |
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:16:18am |
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:18:03am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:18:30am |
re: #224 Walter L. Newton
Thought about you yesterday. Was in the self check-out at Kroger. The dude on duty basically checked me out. I was... perplexed.
Those beeps, those lights, those buttons; they frighten and confuse me.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:19:51am |
re: #246 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Thought about you yesterday. Was in the self check-out at Kroger. The dude on duty basically checked me out. I was... perplexed.
Those beeps, those lights, those buttons; they frighten and confuse me.
Same here.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:20:54am |
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Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:21:02am |
re: #246 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Thought about you yesterday. Was in the self check-out at Kroger. The dude on duty basically checked me out. I was... perplexed.
Those beeps, those lights, those buttons; they frighten and confuse me.
Sometimes the honking horns of your traffic make me want to get out of my BMW...and run off into the hills, or wherever...
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:21:45am |
re: #244 rwdflynavy
Or Merkin Party...
That's what I meant, but I spelled it "Mherkin" because of the h in "Whig."
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:22:53am |
AZ boycott ballyhoo fizzles out...
Los Angeles – When Arizona signed its new immigration law, SB 1070, on April 4, the immediate response by several cities and states was to enact economic boycotts against the state, with the aim of pressuring legislators to rethink the law.
Now, with just over a month to go until the law takes effect July 28, maintaining those embargoes appears to have been tough going for most – especially in the wider economic downturn – and several have watered down their actions.
ho hum
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
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SixDegrees Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:22:55am |
re: #246 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Thought about you yesterday. Was in the self check-out at Kroger. The dude on duty basically checked me out. I was... perplexed.
Those beeps, those lights, those buttons; they frighten and confuse me.
Personally, I refuse to use those lanes. They effectively eliminate three out of four cashier's jobs. And I don't even get a discount for doing what a store employee used to do for me. Bad all around.
At the local Home Depot, self-checkout is the only lane open on Sunday mornings until about 10:00. I've left and gone to Lowes more than once as a result. Lowes, thankfully, has not yet succumbed to their installation.
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Boogberg Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:23:09am |
I worked at a Popeye's a few years ago and the register terrified me. I was much more comfortable in the back of the house.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:24:33am |
Gregg Allman feeling 'pretty good' after liver transplant
[Link: content.usatoday.com...]
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lawhawk Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:25:58am |
New York City passes a $63 billion budget. To put that in perspective, that's more than pretty much every state except New York, Texas and California.
PA has a state budget of $29.3 billion.
CT has a budget of $37.6 billion.
Ohio's budget is $56 billion.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:26:14am |
re: #251 Mad Al-Jaffee
That's what I meant, but I spelled it "Mherkin" because of the h in "Whig."
Ahhhh, wasn't sure if you were going for merkin or Meriken'. Well played on the use of Merkin. If I wasn't on an ancient browser at work that reloads the main page of LGF when I try to upding, I'd upding you!!!
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:26:27am |
re: #246 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Thought about you yesterday. Was in the self check-out at Kroger. The dude on duty basically checked me out. I was... perplexed.
Those beeps, those lights, those buttons; they frighten and confuse me.
And to further enlighten you on the topic of U-scan... some pointers. Don't try to check out a weeks worth of groceries. If you look at the sign, it says, "express - 15 items or less." U-scan is not really designed to to a cart full of groceries. The staging area what holds your scanned items is only designed for 4 plastic bags and an area for larger items like soda cartons. As soon as you fill up that area, and try to remove bags to make more room, U-scan locks up and "beeps" the attendant.
For a matter of fact, you are not suppose to remove any items until AFTER they are paid for. Moving them around, removing them, putting a handbag or wallet on the staging area, any of those action will cause the U-scan station to lock up and notify the attendant.
(Walter's U-scan Tip #1)
Any questions?
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:29:08am |
re: #253 SixDegrees
Personally, I refuse to use those lanes. They effectively eliminate three out of four cashier's jobs. And I don't even get a discount for doing what a store employee used to do for me. Bad all around.
At the local Home Depot, self-checkout is the only lane open on Sunday mornings until about 10:00. I've left and gone to Lowes more than once as a result. Lowes, thankfully, has not yet succumbed to their installation.
In the case of the Kroger Store where I work (King Soopers), we have six robots, so that's one attendant for 6 stations. The King Soopers I used to live next to in Golden Colorado had 12 stations... 6 "15 items or less" and 6 newer stations that are bigger and designed to accommodate a full basket of groceries.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:29:57am |
re: #259 Walter L. Newton
Had ten of the same item... regular 3.50 each... got them for 99cents when I bought ten... but it was like watching Rainman... I'm an idiot, I'll probably stop using it...
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Boogberg Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:30:24am |
What are these market manipulating bastards up to now. Sell-off after lunch?
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:31:31am |
re: #249 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
What's your opinion?re: #247 Boogberg
Nope. Though Sledgehammer was indeed a groundbreaking, great video.
'pop' means different things to different people...pop to me first, is that it's a product made for radio or MTV (spit)...secondly, it's engineered, made in a studio with less regard for playing the music, than manipulating sound to achieve a sellable song...which leads to the thirs notion that pop music is entirely about making money, devoid of spirit...not all pop songs are spiritless, but most are over produced...record companies own pop music, not the writers and musicians who are largely part of the method....lots of argument to be had, but that's part of my take...and consider that radio and MTV (spit) are not entirely about pop music
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:31:59am |
I love the self-checkout, but it pisses me off when I have to put an item aside and get help with it. Why is it "self" checkout when half the time someone has to come over, flash a passcard and key in a code for me?
And "PC LOAD LETTER? What the fuck does that mean?!"
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:33:03am |
re: #256 Mad Al-Jaffee
Gregg Allman feeling 'pretty good' after liver transplant
[Link: content.usatoday.com...]
good news...the old fart still has some chops left, not the range but the mojo
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:33:23am |
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:34:54am |
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abolitionist Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:35:23am |
re: #258 rwdflynavy
Ahhh, wasn't sure if you were going for merkin or Meriken'. Well played on the use of Merkin. If I wasn't on an ancient browser at work that reloads the main page of LGF when I try to upding, I'd upding you!!!
If it's IE-whatever, perhaps you could try adding (without spaces)
www . littlegreenfootballs . com
to the trusted zone ?
If this breaks your machine of gets you in trouble with your IT dept or manager, I'll apologize in advance.
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abolitionist Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:36:26am |
Should have previewed, but you get the idea.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:38:00am |
re: #265 albusteve
good news...the old fart still has some chops left, not the range but the mojo
I should catch the Allman Brothers the next time they tour. I've only seen them once, and that was in the early 90s.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:38:52am |
re: #260 Walter L. Newton
I'd love to sit in one of those meetings...
VP Marketing: "We're gonna open a chain of grocery stores. We've gotta come up with a name for the chain."
Someone shouts, "PIGGLY WIGGLY!"
Someone else, "KING SOOPER!"
Someone else, "The A&P!"
VP Marketing: "Get those people the hell out of here!"
Old Geezer Chairman of the Board, "Wait just a minute there...."
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Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:39:38am |
re: #253 SixDegrees
Personally, I refuse to use those lanes. They effectively eliminate three out of four cashier's jobs. And I don't even get a discount for doing what a store employee used to do for me. Bad all around.
At the local Home Depot, self-checkout is the only lane open on Sunday mornings until about 10:00. I've left and gone to Lowes more than once as a result. Lowes, thankfully, has not yet succumbed to their installation.
Oh, pish posh. They beat standing in line by a country mile...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:39:49am |
re: #270 Mad Al-Jaffee
I should catch the Allman Brothers the next time they tour. I've only seen them once, and they
atwereasin their early 90s.
Little fixin'....
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Ericus58 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:39:50am |
re: #252 albusteve
AZ boycott ballyhoo fizzles out...
Los Angeles – When Arizona signed its new immigration law, SB 1070, on April 4, the immediate response by several cities and states was to enact economic boycotts against the state, with the aim of pressuring legislators to rethink the law.
Now, with just over a month to go until the law takes effect July 28, maintaining those embargoes appears to have been tough going for most – especially in the wider economic downturn – and several have watered down their actions.ho hum
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
"Kyser notes that a Los Angeles Police Department plan to send officers to Arizona for special terrorism training "was canceled due to the boycott,” but other actions have gone under the radar."
Really?? If this training was necessary for their readiness, was it re-scheduled elsewhere? Is there another training facility providing it?
Was this a moronic response?
I think yes.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:41:09am |
re: #271 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'd love to sit in one of those meetings...
VP Marketing: "We're gonna open a chain of grocery stores. We've gotta come up with a name for the chain."
Someone shouts, "PIGGLY WIGGLY!"
Someone else, "KING SOOPER!"
Someone else, "The A&P!"
VP Marketing: "Get those people the hell out of here!"
Old Geezer Chairman of the Board, "Wait just a minute there..."
Don't forget Jitney Jungle. Southern names can be so creative.
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Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:41:11am |
re: #257 lawhawk
New York City passes a $63 billion budget. To put that in perspective, that's more than pretty much every state except New York, Texas and California.
Yowza. Can you guys afford it?
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darthstar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:42:03am |
re: #256 Mad Al-Jaffee
Gregg Allman feeling 'pretty good' after liver transplant
[Link: content.usatoday.com...]
Maybe he'll stop shooting up now. And he can start a new band with Phil Lesh - The Transplants. But I'm glad he got his liver all the same.
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Boogberg Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:42:31am |
Greatest message ever sent by a Genesis song/vid:
I REALLY hate "televangelists". The lowest form of scum.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:42:45am |
re: #277 darthstar
Maybe he'll stop shooting up now. And he can start a new band with Phil Lesh - The Transplants. But I'm glad he got his liver all the same.
He has hepititis.
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Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:42:49am |
re: #264 Mad Al-Jaffee
I love the self-checkout, but it pisses me off when I have to put an item aside and get help with it. Why is it "self" checkout when half the time someone has to come over, flash a passcard and key in a code for me?
And "PC LOAD LETTER? What the fuck does that mean?!"
You know what I would do if I had a million dollars? I would invest half of it in low risk mutual funds and then take the other half over to my friend Asadulah who works in securities...
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:42:59am |
re: #270 Mad Al-Jaffee
I should catch the Allman Brothers the next time they tour. I've only seen them once, and that was in the early 90s.
I saw them back in 70 at the old Chicago Amplitheater...and twice at the Beacon...that's a fun gig there, or it used to be
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:43:54am |
Going to be a loong morning. A long slow morning.
[Link: www.kitco.com...]
Kinda hard to plan your manufacturing costs...
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laZardo Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:44:11am |
How to make this Open Thread really cool...
/also Portugal 0 - 0 Brazil
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:46:02am |
re: #280 Aceofwhat?
Samir: No one in this country can ever pronounce my name right. It's not that hard: Na-ghee-na-na-jar. Nagheenanajar.
Michael Bolton: Yeah, well, at least your name isn't Michael Bolton.
Samir: You know, there's nothing wrong with that name.
Michael Bolton: There *was* nothing wrong with it... until I was about twelve years old and that no-talent ass clown became famous and started winning Grammys.
Samir: Hmm... well, why don't you just go by Mike instead of Michael?
Michael Bolton: No way! Why should I change? He's the one who sucks.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:46:16am |
em>re: #271 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'd love to sit in one of those meetings...
VP Marketing: "We're gonna open a chain of grocery stores. We've gotta come up with a name for the chain."
Someone shouts, "PIGGLY WIGGLY!"
Someone else, "KING SOOPER!"
Someone else, "The A&P!"
VP Marketing: "Get those people the hell out of here!"
Old Geezer Chairman of the Board, "Wait just a minute there..."
(electric bumped up here in the mountains, does that a lot, had to reboot)
King Soopers was a local Colorado chain, started in the 30's by Lloyd King.. the "soopers" was a play on the word "supermarket."
Kroger bought them out at some point.
A and P = The Great Atlantic & Pacific Tea Company
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:46:30am |
re: #274 Ericus58
"Kyser notes that a Los Angeles Police Department plan to send officers to Arizona for special terrorism training "was canceled due to the boycott,” but other actions have gone under the radar."
Really?? If this training was necessary for their readiness, was it re-scheduled elsewhere? Is there another training facility providing it?
Was this a moronic response?I think yes.
the whole issue has been wildly overblown...profiling is highly subjective and any one at any time can be profiled...nobody is going to get dragged off the streets because they are brown...if they do, it's illegal...it's a left wing OO
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:46:56am |
re: #278 BoogbergI REALLY hate "televangelists". The lowest form of scum.
How could anyone hate Ernest "the forehead-bopper" Angley?
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:47:13am |
re: #264 Mad Al-Jaffee
I love the self-checkout, but it pisses me off when I have to put an item aside and get help with it. Why is it "self" checkout when half the time someone has to come over, flash a passcard and key in a code for me?
And "PC LOAD LETTER? What the fuck does that mean?!"
What do you mean? "PC LOAD LETTER"... is that something that came up on the screen at U-scan?
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lawhawk Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:47:25am |
re: #276 Aceofwhat?
Well, there's a budget deficit of about $1 billion, but they should be able to close it with layoffs and some adjustments.
NYC overlays the NYS taxes with its own corp and personal income taxes, sales tax, and all other kinds of taxes. It just drives up the cost of doing business in the city.
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:49:00am |
re: #289 lawhawk
Well, there's a budget deficit of about $1 billion, but they should be able to close it with layoffs and some adjustments.
NYC overlays the NYS taxes with its own corp and personal income taxes, sales tax, and all other kinds of taxes. It just drives up the cost of doing business in the city.
you're average Joe and Judy can't even visit NYC anymore with out ridiculous hardships
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Slap Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:49:18am |
re: #281 albusteve
Look for last year's Beacon shows, if you can. One night, Clapton guested, and it was the FIRST TIME they had played together, which I hadn't realized. (Shhhh -- I have a taper buddy who gave me a copy -- more amazing than you could imagine!)
I need too get to see them soon. I've heard a boatload from last year's tour, and they're still smokin' hot. (Derek Trucks and Warren Haynes. Say no more.)
And for those of you who know these bands: I put forth that Warren Haynes is one of the most remarkable musicians living, based on last summer alone. He toured with BOTH the Allmans and the Dead. IN THE SAME YEAR. I can barely imagine learning the gigantic repertoire of ONE of those bands, let alone both of them.
I'm not even remotely worthy!
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:49:27am |
re: #290 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Piggly Wiggly?
I don't know? I use to shop their in the 70's in Texas.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:49:53am |
I had kinf of a frustrating morning. I planned to come to work early but the car wouldn't start. AAA came about a half hour after I called, but they took a longer time (replacing the battery) than they should have because a new guy was being trained.
The good news is I saved my receipt for the last battery they installed, and since it had a warranty the new one was free. I'm keeping the new receipt in the car (had to dig through some old papers to find the old one.)
Got to work almost two hours late, but that's okay.
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lawhawk Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:50:31am |
Parents of alleged NJ terrorist Mohammed Alessa blame the FBI for their kid turning to jihad.
But even at a young age, his parents said their son suffered from the uncontrollable rages that would plague him throughout his teens and fuel run-ins with school officials and law enforcement.In their first interview together, Mahmood and Nadia Alessa, of North Bergen, detailed their son's psychological problems, his troubled teen years and their belief that the FBI pushed two innocent young men into a terrorist mold.
"It's like they're against these two kids, they want them to be terrorists," Nadia Alessa said of federal authorities. "These kids [don't] know what's going on, they don't know anything."
They also said many of the government's claims against their son are dead wrong and that authorities have mistaken his anger problems and grandiosity for something much more serious.
They said a 2007 trip to Jordan, which the FBI believes was a failed attempt to join the insurgency in Iraq, was a chance for Mohamed Alessa to study abroad. The Alessas also said he was traveling to Egypt on June 5 to meet a 19-year-old Swedish Muslim he planned to marry, not as a way station to jihad in Somalia, as the government alleges.
Right. Their son just has anger problems and delusions of grandeur (that includes repeated statements of jihad) but he's just misguided and the FBI made them turn to jihad - or misinterpreted their intentions and statements.
Gotcha. Alessa's parents are in denial that their kid was a ticking time bomb and the FBI caught him before he did something really bad.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:51:07am |
re: #288 Walter L. Newton
What do you mean? "PC LOAD LETTER"... is that something that came up on the screen at U-scan?
No, it's a quote from the movie Office Space.
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darthstar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:51:37am |
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Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:52:39am |
re: #283 laZardo
How to make this Open Thread really cool...
/also Portugal 0 - 0 Brazil
Dude. Williams-Kleybanova is on. Civilized people playing a sport with no ties/draws, in front of civilized crowds and FUCKING REPLAY!
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:53:50am |
re: #295 lawhawk
Is he the one with the cat named Princess Tuna? Kid's got more than one problem.
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laZardo Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:54:01am |
re: #287 Spare O'Lake
How could anyone hate Ernest "the forehead-bopper" Angley?
Or Benny Hinn?
/kudos to who originally posted this
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:57:03am |
re: #292 Slap
Look for last year's Beacon shows, if you can. One night, Clapton guested, and it was the FIRST TIME they had played together, which I hadn't realized. (Shhh -- I have a taper buddy who gave me a copy -- more amazing than you could imagine!)
I need too get to see them soon. I've heard a boatload from last year's tour, and they're still smokin' hot. (Derek Trucks and Warren Haynes. Say no more.)
And for those of you who know these bands: I put forth that Warren Haynes is one of the most remarkable musicians living, based on last summer alone. He toured with BOTH the Allmans and the Dead. IN THE SAME YEAR. I can barely imagine learning the gigantic repertoire of ONE of those bands, let alone both of them.
I'm not even remotely worthy!
he doesn't learn the repertoire note for note...he jams in a particular key and knows the progressions, or picks them up as he goes along...he's a fine guitarist and a decent guy (met him at a benfit in DC)...but remember there are thousands of great players out there, every bit as good or even better....just ask Mad Al
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SixDegrees Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:57:59am |
re: #272 Aceofwhat?
Oh, pish posh. They beat standing in line by a country mile...
From what I've seen, those lines move a LOT slower than the ones manned by actual cashiers.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:58:55am |
re: #302 albusteve
he doesn't learn the repertoire note for note...he jams in a particular key and knows the progressions, or picks them up as he goes along...he's a fine guitarist and a decent guy (met him at a benfit in DC)...but remember there are thousands of great players out there, every bit as good or even better...just ask Mad Al
Hell yeah. I used to go to a club - an old honky tonk that was around since the 50s - very close to home. On Friday and Saturday nights the house band would play, usually featuring two of the most amazing guitarists in the region. The cover was $2.00.
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:58:57am |
re: #303 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Good morning FBV! Today is Pieday! I think I will make Chocolate Cream Pie.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 7:59:16am |
re: #296 Mad Al-Jaffee
No, it's a quote from the movie Office Space.
Got it... I looked it up... "PC LOAD LETTER is a technology meme, originally a printer error message, which has grown into popular culture as a reference to a confusing or inappropriate error message."
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
I was curious, because the U-scan set up at or store is a Fujistu product, and it's actually running an embedded XP, which in turn runs the software. The wireless unit I use is driven by Windows CE. That handheld unit actually keeps track, in real time, of all the activity at each U-scan robot, and I can control most functions from that handheld.
The biggest problem I find, from the operators side of things, is that as soon as a customer has a problem, in their mind, they are the only on with a problem, and it doesn't matter if I have 2-3 other stations beeping and asking for attention.
When you check out at a regular check stand, the cashier is taking care of YOU, one person, all attention is on that customer. So, it's hard for a customer to think any other way when they are checking out. They come first, that's what they are use to, but it's not always possible to attend to a customer in the same manner at U-scan as at a regular check stand.
That's one of the reasons I don't like operating U-scan, organized chaos and I see more annoyed customers at U-scan than anyplace else in the store.
It's a cultural/technology thing, which may evolve over the years, but currently, self scan is getting a lot of "push back" from the public.
Me, myself, when I am checking out a small order for me, I love it, always have, from the start, even before I became a employee in the industry.
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darthstar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:00:11am |
Palin pimping the Hitler comparison.
Plausible deniability retained, of course.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:00:17am |
re: #304 SixDegrees
From what I've seen, those lines move a LOT slower than the ones manned by actual cashiers.
If you keep me out of them, they're faster.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:01:32am |
Obama Makes Adorable Mistake, Calls It "Twitters"
[Link: jezebel.com...]
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:02:31am |
re: #292 Slap
a couple of times I have been to Buddy Guy's Legends in January when he's home and plays there 12-15 nights in January...both times only regional guys showed up to play...no Clapton or Richards
what a cool place to see a band...low stage with tables and people crowded right up to the front...talking a measly couple hundred people here
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Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:02:32am |
re: #289 lawhawk
Well, there's a budget deficit of about $1 billion, but they should be able to close it with layoffs and some adjustments.
NYC overlays the NYS taxes with its own corp and personal income taxes, sales tax, and all other kinds of taxes. It just drives up the cost of doing business in the city.
IIRC, it's one of the most expensive places in the US in which to work or set up a business, with regards to total tax burden.
I just didn't know if $63 billion was about what you expected or not. Down here in Jacksonville, we do without state income taxes! (although our property taxes are, at ~1.7%, nearly double the national average)
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:02:47am |
Everytime I decide to use the self-checkout cause it's faster I end up like Charlie Brown. Lucy pulls the damn football away everytime! Please Wait for Assistance...
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:04:09am |
re: #304 SixDegrees
From what I've seen, those lines move a LOT slower than the ones manned by actual cashiers.
Mainly because a lot of people try to use U-san for a whole weeks worth of groceries. Like I said above, U-scan was originally designed to be a self service express check out.
They have developed larger U-scan stations for full basket of groceries, but not all supermarkets are using them.
And the scanners themselves are slower than a regular check stand for a number of reasons. All six U-scan stations are talking to ONE server. There is a processor on board, running an embedded Windows XP, but most of the grunt work is done on a main server for the group. And also that server is transmitting wireless information to the hand held that the attendant holds... over all a lot of activity going on at the same time.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:04:30am |
re: #310 Mad Al-Jaffee
I was in the waiting room of my wife's endocrinologist and an elderly lady asked me, "How long has your wife had the sugars?"
I thought that was cute.
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:05:11am |
re: #310 Mad Al-Jaffee
Obama Makes Adorable Mistake, Calls It "Twitters"
[Link: jezebel.com...]
On CNN they immediately followed the Obama "twitters" boo-boo with the incredibly moronic Bush "I use the Google" one.
Obamots.
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:05:25am |
re: #305 Mad Al-Jaffee
Hell yeah. I used to go to a club - an old honky tonk that was around since the 50s - very close to home. On Friday and Saturday nights the house band would play, usually featuring two of the most amazing guitarists in the region. The cover was $2.00.
my daughter hired a cover band for her wedding party and when those guys hit the floor my jaw dropped...I flat out could not believe what I was hearing, and the lead guitar was just about as good as a player can get
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:05:29am |
re: #316 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I was in the waiting room of my wife's endocrinologist and an elderly lady asked me, "How long has your wife had the sugars?"
I thought that was cute.
My band leader (I think in his late 60s and from South Carolina) calls it "Sugar Diabetes."
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lawhawk Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:07:49am |
re: #304 SixDegrees
Indeed. A cashier is trained to scan and process sales transactions and what to do with poor scanning items. Using the self-checkout lines assume the same or similar level of understanding as the cashier.
My biggest beef is that the self-checkouts stop working if you don't place items directly in the bagging area (checking weight) - which in a home improvement store can get nuts when you've got oddly shaped items, oversized items, etc.
And that doesn't include technical glitches with the self-checkout lines.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:07:55am |
re: #313 rwdflynavy
Everytime I decide to use the self-checkout cause it's faster I end up like Charlie Brown. Lucy pulls the damn football away everytime! Please Wait for Assistance...
There are so many parameters that can trigger that... you removed an item from the bagging area, an item doesn't have the same actual weight as listed in the database, someone put something on the scale between scans that wasn't scanned, your belly is leaning on the scale, you tried to remove items from the bagging area before paying and so on...
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Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:08:02am |
re: #304 SixDegrees
From what I've seen, those lines move a LOT slower than the ones manned by actual cashiers.
Oh, sure - if there isn't one open, or if i have more than ~15 things, i won't even consider it. With my luck, i'd get behind someone like FBV and either end up helping him myself or silently cursing him / asking God for forgiveness for cursing my fellow man...
But as a group of extra "i just came here for X and Y and i want to get the hell out" slots, they're fabulous...
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:09:09am |
re: #318 albusteve
my daughter hired a cover band for her wedding party and when those guys hit the floor my jaw dropped...I flat out could not believe what I was hearing, and the lead guitar was just about as good as a player can get
You would have loved this place, Chick Hall's Surf Club. Chick Hall Jr. was the house band guiarist played bass (and owned the club.) Their father, Chick Hall Sr., was a monster player in the 50s and 60s.
A story they tell about him is he used to go to a guitar contest in Virginia when he was a teenager. He won so many times in a row, one year they just gave him the first prize as soon as he showed up.
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Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:09:12am |
re: #306 Alouette
Good morning FBV! Today is Pieday! I think I will make Chocolate Cream Pie.
How are you feeling? Better today than last week?
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Slap Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:10:38am |
re: #302 albusteve
First, I agree on the number of players out there. Trust me -- as one who still struggles to find my voice on the fretboard, I'm hyper-aware of the talent out there. (Having witnessed -- in person -- people like Pat Martino, Larry Coryell, Robert Fripp, Steve Howe, Richard Thompson, David Lindley, Steve Morse, Leo Kottke, Frank and Dweezil, Martin Barre, Henry Kaiser, Adrian Belew, Jeff Tepper, Buck Dharma, Ritchie Blackmore and Billy Gibbons -- to name just the ones off the top of my head -- I have regularly contemplated throwing the guitar away and taking up soil research instead.)
But -- I think you maybe minimize how much he had to do to pull of those gigs. Sure, in the modal improvised sections, he's free to roam -- but both bands also feature a significant amount of pretty tightly-scripted changes that require a level of awareness and knowledge that's pretty noteworthy. And I strongly suspect that despite the talent out there, there's only a handful that can do what he did in terms of credibly integrating his playing into bands with clearly established personalities. Playing well is one thing, playing well with others is a little trickier.
I still say, find last year's Beacon shows. The nights with Clapton and Boz Scaggs were pretty fine.
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Boogberg Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:10:54am |
re: #320 lawhawk
Haven't we known this was coming? Machines do more, Humans do less.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:11:16am |
re: #318 albusteve
I'm guessing that there are thousands of players out there who are "just about as good as you can get" and there are a few hundred who were fortunate enough to get noticed.
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lawhawk Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:11:44am |
re: #312 Aceofwhat?
Property taxes are the bane of our existence in NJ. In the 70s, the state decided to impose a personal income tax to alleviate the property tax burden.
Now, we've got both - and property taxes continue rising. Then, they had the brilliant idea of using a sales tax hike to pay for property tax relief in the form of rebates.
Oh, and then when sales tax revenue dropped off a cliff, they eliminated the rebates in most instances, but kept the sales tax hike. Then, Trenton decided to impose a temporary surtax on millionaires (but which actually hit those with income as low as $500k), to make budget - but when that temporary surtax expired, the Democrats demanded that it be extended to pay for the expenditures.
It's no wonder that people around NJ are fed up with taxes.
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laZardo Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:11:54am |
I don't know if they're skillful or just lucky but those were some really nice saves by Brazil in the last few minutes...
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:11:55am |
re: #320 lawhawk
Indeed. A cashier is trained to scan and process sales transactions and what to do with poor scanning items. Using the self-checkout lines assume the same or similar level of understanding as the cashier.
My biggest beef is that the self-checkouts stop working if you don't place items directly in the bagging area (checking weight) - which in a home improvement store can get nuts when you've got oddly shaped items, oversized items, etc.
And that doesn't include technical glitches with the self-checkout lines.
You're correct. In a supermarket, every packaged item has a corresponding weight in the database. You scan an item, put it in the bagging area, and if the actual weight doesn't match the weight in the database... it's locks up. And of course, that can easily happen. The bagging area scales are actually more accurate than you imagine, and manufacturers weights can be off by a bit.
ANd if you toss an item into the bag, instead of placing it, that extra momentary "force" can upset the weighing.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:13:02am |
re: #330 lawhawk
Well, fortunately y'all hired a guy who ain't afraid to try and fix it.
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darthstar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:13:07am |
re: #317 Spare O'Lake
On CNN they immediately followed the Obama "twitters" boo-boo with the incredibly moronic Bush "I use the Google" one.
Obamots.
Twittergate! Impeach him! Hitler!
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:13:13am |
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Boogberg Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:14:02am |
re: #332 Walter L. Newton
that extra momentary "force" can upset the weighing.
extra foot/pounds per square inch? :D
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:14:13am |
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:15:54am |
I had a nice moment coming to work today (which made me feel somewhat better about the car trouble and coming in late.) There was a woman with a kid in a stroller at the Metro and I let her get on before me. She thanked me and said "You're the only polite person here." If only she knew me better. ;)
Karma for me.
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:15:55am |
re: #324 Mad Al-Jaffee
You would have loved this place, Chick Hall's Surf Club. Chick Hall Jr. was the house band guiarist played bass (and owned the club.) Their father, Chick Hall Sr., was a monster player in the 50s and 60s.
A story they tell about him is he used to go to a guitar contest in Virginia when he was a teenager. He won so many times in a row, one year they just gave him the first prize as soon as he showed up.
sounds like Joe Bonamassa...12 yr old prodigy...anyway I love small clubs, and most of my favorite bands play them, nothing like it in the world...I'm addicted...and Chick's sounds exactly right for me, a joint with a history
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:15:55am |
re: #332 Walter L. Newton
ANd if you toss an item into the bag, instead of placing it, that extra momentary "force" can upset the weighing
Dipstick in front of me the other day couldn't understand why the self check machine kept telling her there were "unexpected items in the bagging area". Her toddler kept sitting on the bagging bench!
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darthstar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:16:27am |
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:16:31am |
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:16:51am |
re: #338 Mad Al-Jaffee
I had a nice moment coming to work today (which made me feel somewhat better about the car trouble and coming in late.) There was a woman with a kid in a stroller at the Metro and I let her get on before me. She thanked me and said "You're the only polite person here." If only she knew me better. ;)
Karma for me.
ding whore ,,,, I grudgingly gave you one!!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:16:56am |
I taught my son the ten/twelve chords I know... and handed him one of those Hal Leonard chord books.
Three or four weeks later he came to me and was playing along with stuff on CDs.
Got him lessons. Three or four years later, (three teachers later) the music place basically fired him. Said, "You dad is paying good money for you to come over here and jam with us."
He was/is extremely talented. But what helps? Four three or four years (while maintaining a 3.8 GPA, he played four to five hours per day.
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Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:17:09am |
re: #330 lawhawk
Property taxes are the bane of our existence in NJ. In the 70s, the state decided to impose a personal income tax to alleviate the property tax burden.
Now, we've got both - and property taxes continue rising. Then, they had the brilliant idea of using a sales tax hike to pay for property tax relief in the form of rebates.
Oh, and then when sales tax revenue dropped off a cliff, they eliminated the rebates in most instances, but kept the sales tax hike. Then, Trenton decided to impose a temporary surtax on millionaires (but which actually hit those with income as low as $500k), to make budget - but when that temporary surtax expired, the Democrats demanded that it be extended to pay for the expenditures.
It's no wonder that people around NJ are fed up with taxes.
Yep. Pay all those taxes, and they still live in Jersey.
*ducks*
More seriously, though, how hard is it to look over at other states and ask how they seem to get by on far less income? That's the part i liked the least about living in Chicago...the pretense that they needed all of that money.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:17:23am |
re: #338 Mad Al-Jaffee
And you watched her ass as she pushed her kid on...
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:18:32am |
re: #341 darthstar
I didn't miss the point. I called President Obama Hitler...
/
Pay no attention to that knocking on your door. it's only these guys
Image: Obama%20Youth.jpg
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:18:33am |
re: #336 Boogberg
extra foot/pounds per square inch? :D
Er... ask Ludwig on that one... I'm not up on physics.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:18:52am |
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laZardo Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:19:15am |
re: #344 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Lucky him. My little brother is the bassist for one of those college bands.
Bout a month or two ago he and the band got interviewed on a punk-rock radio station.
/stewing in envy
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Slap Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:19:55am |
re: #311 albusteve
There was a place in DC called the Cellar Door. Sat 160, legally speaking, but I think they regularly pushed 200. (I'm sure there are Lizards who knew the place.) I must have seen close to 15 shows or more there -- talk about intimate! It had a balcony, and the tables were no more than two rows deep on either floor -- it was all stage. (Miles Davis' Live/Evil was recorded there.)
Big names at teeny venues is a concept that doesn't happen much anymore, sadly. The Cellar Door and Bayou and Desperadoes, all great DC clubs, are long gone, and they were unbelievable in their prime.....
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:20:22am |
re: #339 albusteve
sounds like Joe Bonamassa...12 yr old prodigy...anyway I love small clubs, and most of my favorite bands play them, nothing like it in the world...I'm addicted...and Chick's sounds exactly right for me, a joint with a history
My brother used to describe Chick's to people by saying "You'd think you'd died and gone to Texas!"
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Boogberg Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:20:28am |
re: #349 Walter L. Newton
Er... ask Ludwig on that one... I'm not up on physics.
It was a "Shining" reference. A vague one at that. Nevermind. :D
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:21:37am |
re: #344 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I taught my son the ten/twelve chords I know... and handed him one of those Hal Leonard chord books.
Three or four weeks later he came to me and was playing along with stuff on CDs.
Got him lessons. Three or four years later, (three teachers later) the music place basically fired him. Said, "You dad is paying good money for you to come over here and jam with us."
He was/is extremely talented. But what helps? Four three or four years (while maintaining a 3.8 GPA, he played four to five hours per day.
My opinion, teaching someone music and how to play an instrument, even if they don't use it for much of anything later on in life, it does instill a thinking process in them that is very helpful, very natural and can really lend to increasing logical and critical thinking skills...
Does that make sense? I know what I am trying to say, just don't know if I made that clear.
Of course, jazz musicians are fucked up, neural paths already blown.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:21:39am |
re: #351 laZardo
My son's band is going on tour. 45 days, 40 shows... all over the fruited plains.
They'll come back having broken even financially, but happier than shit.
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Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:21:44am |
re: #344 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You know what excellent musicians with 3.8 GPA's have?
Options.
Good kid you have there-
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lawhawk Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:21:56am |
re: #345 Aceofwhat?
Well, I'm living in NJ because NY taxes and real estate prices forced us out. We couldn't afford to live there (and our jobs are in NYC).
But as I wrote earlier this week, there's a reason that people are fleeing from places like the NYC metro area for other parts of the country - the crushing tax burdens being a major reason.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:22:12am |
re: #352 Slap
There was a place in DC called the Cellar Door. Sat 160, legally speaking, but I think they regularly pushed 200. (I'm sure there are Lizards who knew the place.) I must have seen close to 15 shows or more there -- talk about intimate! It had a balcony, and the tables were no more than two rows deep on either floor -- it was all stage. (Miles Davis' Live/Evil was recorded there.)
Big names at teeny venues is a concept that doesn't happen much anymore, sadly. The Cellar Door and Bayou and Desperadoes, all great DC clubs, are long gone, and they were unbelievable in their prime...
I was too young for that era, but I know plenty of people who played those clubs and more who hung out there. The only one I've been to was The Bayou.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:22:14am |
re: #352 Slap
I fondly recall Pauls Mall and The Jazz Workshop in Boston. Combined, I doubt the two of them (they were in the same building) could seat 150 people
Sandys Jazz Revival in Beverly Mass was bigger, but all three drew TOP jazz artists in their day
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:22:53am |
re: #352 Slap
There was a place in DC called the Cellar Door. Sat 160, legally speaking, but I think they regularly pushed 200. (I'm sure there are Lizards who knew the place.) I must have seen close to 15 shows or more there -- talk about intimate! It had a balcony, and the tables were no more than two rows deep on either floor -- it was all stage. (Miles Davis' Live/Evil was recorded there.)
Big names at teeny venues is a concept that doesn't happen much anymore, sadly. The Cellar Door and Bayou and Desperadoes, all great DC clubs, are long gone, and they were unbelievable in their prime...
that's what House of Blues is all about....clubs are coming back, not that they ever went away...major bands like those gigs when the money is 'good enough' and it often is
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:23:09am |
re: #340 sattv4u2
ANd if you toss an item into the bag, instead of placing it, that extra momentary "force" can upset the weighing
Dipstick in front of me the other day couldn't understand why the self check machine kept telling her there were "unexpected items in the bagging area". Her toddler kept sitting on the bagging bench!
I have a rule when I am attending self scan (I hate working self scan)... if you see a woman walking up with high heels, or a man walking up with cowboy boot on, at some point you are going to have to assist them.
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darthstar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:24:00am |
Okay, so we know that there's this oil gushing into the gulf. We know that it's toxic to all marine life and mammals if ingested. So, what's a parent to do? Why, let their kid roll around in the shit at the beach, of course.
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:24:14am |
re: #356 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My son's band is going on tour. 45 days, 40 shows... all over the fruited plains.
They'll come back having broken even financially, but happier than shit.
really cool
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:24:54am |
re: #347 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
And you watched her ass as she pushed her kid on...
I left that part out on purpose.
But with the extremely hot weather we've been having, the way some women have been dressing lately have been making my commute nicer.
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:25:10am |
re: #359 Mad Al-Jaffee
I was too young for that era, but I know plenty of people who played those clubs and more who hung out there. The only one I've been to was The Bayou.
any news about the Birchmere?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:26:11am |
re: #355 Walter L. Newton
He was a theory wiz too. You can master the Mathematics arts? You can master music.
He can shred with the best of them, and he comes home, whips out his classical and plays for his old man. Tats all over, beard to his chest, and still my baby boy.
The current shit storm that is my life has made me a bit melancholy.
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Slap Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:26:52am |
re: #355 Walter L. Newton
Walter, you're spot on. Learning an instrument opens the brain to an entirely new vocabulary of cognitive connections.
Hell, it's magic. Using a device to manipulate invisible air molecules in a specifically-organized fashion is no small thing.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:27:53am |
re: #361 albusteve
that's what House of Blues is all about...clubs are coming back, not that they ever went away...major bands like those gigs when the money is 'good enough' and it often is
We still have the 9:30 Club and they're supposed to open a second Birchmere really close to me.
There's a place in Northern VA called JV's that's supposed to be a lot like the Surf Club. I need to check it out one of these days.
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Slap Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:28:22am |
re: #366 albusteve
It's still around, last I checked -- that was a pretty good place, too. Saw Fairport Convention there back in '89 or '90....
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:29:35am |
re: #363 darthstar
You've pre-paid over a thousand dollars for a week at the beach. (thats the low end of the scale for there),,, Ocean front condos/ homes go for several thousand a week) As the ladies said, it wasn't there (Destin) or Fort Walton yesterday, so it's not like they said "hey ,,lets bring the kids to the beach and have them suck oily sand"
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:29:35am |
re: #369 Slap
Walter, you're spot on. Learning an instrument opens the brain to an entirely new vocabulary of cognitive connections.
Hell, it's magic. Using a device to manipulate invisible air molecules in a specifically-organized fashion is no small thing.
Thanks for putting that into a more succinct statement. My writing style is more populist, sometimes lacking in the finer details.
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:31:04am |
re: #372 Slap
It's still around, last I checked -- that was a pretty good place, too. Saw Fairport Convention there back in '89 or '90...
nice place, I like the Birch...who wouldn't?
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:31:17am |
re: #369 Slap
Walter, you're spot on. Learning an instrument opens the brain to an entirely new vocabulary of cognitive connections.
I know LOTS of musicians who are software engineers or with some kind of career in IT.
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Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:32:47am |
re: #355 Walter L. Newton
My opinion, teaching someone music and how to play an instrument, even if they don't use it for much of anything later on in life, it does instill a thinking process in them that is very helpful, very natural and can really lend to increasing logical and critical thinking skills...
My mom was forced to take piano lessons as a kid. Her mother said she'd appreciate it later.
She did. I was then forced to take piano lessons as a kid. Mom said i'd appreciate it later.
I did.
In two years, I'll force my daughter to take piano lessons!
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:33:15am |
re: #325 Aceofwhat?
How are you feeling? Better today than last week?
A bit. I haven't hit the heavy meds yet. :)
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darthstar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:33:59am |
re: #373 sattv4u2
You've pre-paid over a thousand dollars for a week at the beach. (thats the low end of the scale for there),,, Ocean front condos/ homes go for several thousand a week) As the ladies said, it wasn't there (Destin) or Fort Walton yesterday, so it's not like they said "hey ,,lets bring the kids to the beach and have them suck oily sand"
Sunscreen, check.
Umbrella, check.
Towels, check.
Rubber gloves, check.
Dispersants, check.
Dawn detergent for detoxifying the children, check.
How much money are the kids worth again?
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:34:01am |
re: #377 Aceofwhat?
My mom was forced to take piano lessons as a kid. Her mother said she'd appreciate it later.
She did. I was then forced to take piano lessons as a kid. Mom said i'd appreciate it later.
I did.
In two years, I'll force my daughter to take piano lessons!
in 15 years she'll be in therapy!!
//
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abolitionist Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:35:00am |
re: #355 Walter L. Newton
My opinion, teaching someone music and how to play an instrument, even if they don't use it for much of anything later on in life, it does instill a thinking process in them that is very helpful, very natural and can really lend to increasing logical and critical thinking skills...
Does that make sense? I know what I am trying to say, just don't know if I made that clear.
Of course, jazz musicians are fucked up, neural paths already blown.
Maybe relevent:
Your Computer Really Is a Part of You
An empirical test of ideas proposed by Martin Heidegger shows the great German philosopher to be correct: Everyday tools really do become part of ourselves.The findings come from a deceptively simple study of people using a computer mouse rigged to malfunction. The resulting disruption in attention wasn’t superficial. It seemingly extended to the very roots of cognition.
[snip]
Makes one worry about violent computer games, tho.
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Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:35:43am |
re: #380 sattv4u2
in 15 years she'll be in therapy!!
//
Heh.
She can quit when she's 16, if she likes. By that point, she'll have had enough to last her for the rest of her life, and i'll have done my duty in that narrow regard.
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:36:50am |
CHICAGO - If the U.S. Supreme Court strikes down Chicago's handgun ban, the city will likely do what Washington, D.C., did when its own ban was overturned two years ago: Put in place all sorts of regulations and restrictions to make it tougher to buy guns and easier for police to know who has them.
"We're not going to roll over," Chicago Mayor Richard Daley said.
"we will try desperately to circumvent the LAW"....check out the funny picture
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:38:07am |
re: #379 darthstar
Sunscreen, check.
Umbrella, check.
Towels, check.
Rubber gloves, check.
Dispersants, check.
Dawn detergent for detoxifying the children, check.How much money are the kids worth again?
priceless, obviously
but as stated, they were
A) not expecting it there that day ("it wasn't there this morning,,, wasn't at Fort Walton yesterday")
B) prepared (mother stated she had goo gone, just in case)
C) the people were doing their best to avoid it AND remove it as soon as they came in contact with it
D) for this time of year, for that beach, it was pretty empty so most decided not to go, and the ones that were there probably didn;t stay long
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:38:59am |
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darthstar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:39:27am |
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:39:29am |
re: #379 darthstar
Sunscreen, check.
Umbrella, check.
Towels, check.
Rubber gloves, check.
Dispersants, check.
Dawn detergent for detoxifying the children, check.
How much money are the kids worth again?
priceless, obviously
but as stated, they were
A) not expecting it there that day ("it wasn't there this morning,,, wasn't at Fort Walton yesterday")
B) prepared (mother stated she had goo gone, just in case)
C) the people were doing their best to avoid it AND remove it as soon as they came in contact with it
D) for this time of year, for that beach, it was pretty empty so most decided not to go, and the ones that were there probably didn;t stay long
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Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:39:52am |
re: #381 abolitionist
Makes one worry about violent computer games, tho.
Nah. It's a fascinating insight into how the brain adapts to the tool as an extension of the body, which is wholly different than a study of how subject matter affects emotional cognition, reasoning, and higher thinking.
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:42:37am |
re: #295 lawhawk
Parents of alleged NJ terrorist Mohammed Alessa blame the FBI for their kid turning to jihad.
Gotcha. Alessa's parents are in denial that their kid was a ticking time bomb and the FBI caught him before he did something really bad.
Yes, they are.
What they're saying now in your link is wholly unlike their initial statements to the NYT and others, as I posted here at the time:
From Wayward Teenagers to Terror Suspects
One was a spoiled child so prone to fits of rage — fights, screamed insults, threats — that his parents began taking him to psychiatrists at age 6 and medicating him in a vain struggle to control his moods. By their count, his short fuse and incendiary tongue forced him to change schools no fewer than 10 times.[...]“Of course we tried everything we could,” said Nadia Alessa, mother of Mohamed M. Alessa, the one so given to angry outbursts. “We couldn’t just keep him at home.”[...]“He was a spoiled kid,” Ms. Alessa conceded. “He acted like a teenager. He thought he was a king.”
She said Mohamed attended the local public elementary school, two Catholic grade schools, a boarding school in Connecticut, a school for troubled youth, three Muslim schools and two public high schools, repeatedly getting into trouble for fighting or mouthing off.
At the two public high schools, North Bergen and KAS Prep, Mr. Alessa made an escalating series of threats against students and staff members through 2005 and 2006, saying that he would blow up the school, mutilate gays and punish women who were not subordinate to men, according to officials granted anonymity to discuss confidential matters. Both schools alerted the Department of Homeland Security.
As a 10th grader at North Bergen High, he had to receive his lessons at a local public library under the eye of a security guard, said Paul Swibinski, a school spokesman, because “administrators felt that his presence in school posed a safety threat to other students and staff.”
Alessa was on a DHS watch list since he was 15.
The remind me of the Columbine killers. Alessa is like Eric Harris-- the psychopath who was dangerous and would have killed people someday in some fashion no matter what. And like Harris, Alessa appears to have parents who alternately had no idea what to do but would reflexively defend him. (In contrast to Klebold and his parents).
I have some sympathy for the parents because the desire to protect your child is so strong, and this kid (sorry to say) appears to have been a monster since birth.
In contrast,
In October 2006, the Federal Bureau of Investigation received a tip that Mr. Alessa and Mr. Almonte talked about holy war and killing non-Muslims, and law enforcement agencies began keeping a watch on them. From the start, the authorities were in touch with Mr. Almonte’s family
Almonte's family tipped off the FBI about him and immediately cooperated with the authorities for years before this 2010 arrest.
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Ericus58 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:44:16am |
Wall Street Wins, Main Street Loses in Bank Overhaul: Bove
[Link: www.cnbc.com...]
""I talked to the CEO of one of the five largest banks in the country ... I said 'this bill is going to knock 33 percent of your customers out,' he said 'you're crazy, Dick, it's going to be 20 percent,'" he said. "The point is that the banks can get this money back, the consumer can't."
When the credit card bill was passed, interest rates were raised for some consumers, others had their fees increased while some lost their access to credit, he noted.
"You're going to see exactly the same thing happening," Bove said.
But banks are overcapitalized anyway, and the new measures will mean that, despite this, they will still not lend, choking the recovery, he said.
"Not one person in Congress has looked at the impact on money supply as a result of what's being done to the banking industry," Bove said.
Steps taken by the Federal Reserve to pump liquidity in the economy is not translating into the money supply because banks don't lend enough, since the government has forced them to overcapitalize, he said.
"You must have banks lending money in order to grow money supply," Bove said."
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:46:27am |
IAF strikes in Gaza Strip
IAF aircraft struck in the Gaza Strip overnight Thursday, targeting a weapons cache in the north and two smuggling tunnels in the south, the army said.
A spokesman for the military said the strikes were in response to yesterday’s rocket attacks from the Strip.
hit back every time....go IAF!
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:50:54am |
Yahoo just invaded...somehow I have their toolbar installed...motherfuckers
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Fozzie Bear Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:51:38am |
re: #224 Walter L. Newton
Reading the article in Huffington, what I found most interesting was that all the compromises that eventually watered down the bill were compromises instigated and approved by Democrats, since the Republicans once again decided to stay unanimously against the bill in any form.
The weaknesses of this bill can only be laid in the laps of the Democrats. The GOP may be the party of NO, but the Democrats are doing a good job of proving they are the party of CAN'T.
Of course. The GOP literally isn't any longer participating in the legislative process. They took their ball and went home. This is a deliberate strategy, designed to result in the failure of the legislature as a whole, and of course, it works.
It amazes me that you see two parties, one that fails despite effort to produce good legislation, and one that actively fights ANY attempts at doing so, and you find less fault with the party that has openly stated that their goal is to railroad any and all progress for a hoped political gain.
Of course, you're just being "post-partisan", huh?
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Ayeless in Ghazi Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:51:43am |
re: #363 darthstar
Okay, so we know that there's this oil gushing into the gulf. We know that it's toxic to all marine life and mammals if ingested. So, what's a parent to do? Why, let their kid roll around in the shit at the beach, of course.
[Video]
Stoopid envyurmint!
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:55:09am |
re: #395 Fozzie Bear
Of course. The GOP literally isn't any longer participating in the legislative process. They took their ball and went home. This is a deliberate strategy, designed to result in the failure of the legislature as a whole, and of course, it works.
It amazes me that you see two parties, one that fails despite effort to produce good legislation, and one that actively fights ANY attempts at doing so, and you find less fault with the party that has openly stated that their goal is to railroad any and all progress for a hoped political gain.
Of course, you're just being "post-partisan", huh?
the party of no verses the party of can't...big whoop, the feds suck
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:55:23am |
His nominated replacement, Gen. David Petraeus, will be able to make adjustments in war plans and tactics, including the rules of engagement that many troops feel handcuff their efforts, the officials said in a Pentagon news conference.
“Any new commander, Gen. Petraeus included, will go in, assess his command, and what it is going to take to achieve the mission,” said Joint Chiefs Chairman Adm. Mike Mullen, speaking alongside Defense Secretary Robert Gates.
Petraeus “certainly has the flexibility to make changes that he thinks are necessary,” Mullen said.
SNIP
Gates and Mullen defended the war effort in Afghanistan, despite widespread corruption concerns; difficulties in recruiting, training and retaining enough Afghan security force personnel; and reports of continued fighting in Marjah even as the Kandahar campaign — which McChrystal recently said wouldn’t get under way in earnest until fall — continues to heat up.
The overall situation in Marjah is improving despite continued Taliban resistance, Mullen said.
“This is classic counterinsurgency,” he said. “We haven’t put off the operation in Kandahar. … And in any operation, you make adjustments.”
“I do not believe we are bogged down,” Gates said. “I believe we are making some progress. It is slower, and harder than we anticipated.”
SNIP
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:56:29am |
This might shock some of you, but I'm actually going to watch one of those kick the ball games tomorrow. One of my best friends is a fan and he want's to get together and watch it. He was originally going to pick me up on the way to DC and we were going to watch a USA game at a friend's party. He told me he would rather have me come to Baltimore and hang out at his place. No problems for me to do that. His wife is also a good friend, and their one and a half your old daughter is awesomely adorable.
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Fozzie Bear Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:56:39am |
re: #398 albusteve
The thing is, you are completely ignoring the reason that the party of "can't" is the party of can't.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:57:11am |
re: #395 Fozzie Bear
one that fails despite effort to produce good legislation
Why are they "failing" if the legislation is that "good"?
Majority in the Senate,, CHECK
Majority in the House ,,, CHECK
President AND VP ,,,,,,,,,, CHECK
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darthstar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:57:41am |
re: #393 albusteve
Yahoo just invaded...somehow I have their toolbar installed...motherfuckers
Yahoo's toolbar is embedded in lots of shit out there. You must have accepted the defaults on some application. But you can uninstall it through the control panel, or at least hide it through the view/menus on your browser.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:58:25am |
re: #395 Fozzie Bear
Of course. The GOP literally isn't any longer participating in the legislative process. They took their ball and went home. This is a deliberate strategy, designed to result in the failure of the legislature as a whole, and of course, it works.
It amazes me that you see two parties, one that fails despite effort to produce good legislation, and one that actively fights ANY attempts at doing so, and you find less fault with the party that has openly stated that their goal is to railroad any and all progress for a hoped political gain.
Of course, you're just being "post-partisan", huh?
Hmmm... I just called the GOP the party of "NO"... that said, which is evident that they tried to obstruct this bill at all levels, now, where does that leave us... well, the Democrats who have the majority here... that failed to produce good legislation, as per your comment, and my agreement.
I think the financial institutions needed a good crackdown... the Democrats, who could have changed that (evidently the GOP had no desire to change anything)... caved (which is no wonder, the folks in DC work for special interest, not our interest).
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:58:42am |
America is heading toward a colossal defeat in Afghanistan. Unless there is a dramatic change in policy and leadership, the United States will suffer the most calamitous military setback in its history - one that will mark the end of the American moment, the loss of superpower status in the eyes of the world.
Yet the dismissal of Gen. McChrystal reveals the profound failure of Mr. Obama's wartime leadership. Gen. McChrystal voted for Mr. Obama. He was the president's handpicked successor to lead the military campaign in Afghanistan. Along with Mr. Obama, it was Gen. McChrystal who formulated - and signed off on - the counterinsurgency strategy now being implemented. He agreed to the strict rules of engagement, which prevent our soldiers from effectively fighting the Taliban for fear of hurting civilians.
something really stinks in Afghanistan...the wheels are falling off
[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:59:26am |
Good day, fellow lizards. What's the good word?
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 8:59:48am |
re: #401 Fozzie Bear
The thing is, you are completely ignoring the reason that the party of "can't" is the party of can't.
no I'm not...dem legislation sucks, you seem to be ignoring that
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laZardo Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:00:11am |
re: #405 albusteve
The hideous implication in all that is that the mujahideen will have literally become an invincible army, having fended off the British, the Soviets and the Americans if we lose.
| 409 |
laZardo Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:00:34am |
re: #406 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Good day, fellow lizards. What's the good word?
Chile vs. Spain and Switzerland vs. Honduras coming up in a bit...
| 410 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:00:52am |
Decisions Decisions Decisions
A) sleep for several hours (just got home after a 12 hour overnight shift)
B) watch soccer (Portugal - Brazil should be a good match)
C) go do my errands now and sleep LATER (have to go back into work tonight)
D) sit here and say fuggit about A, B and C
| 411 |
Targetpractice Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:01:05am |
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:01:27am |
re: #410 sattv4u2
Decisions Decisions Decisions
A) sleep for several hours (just got home after a 12 hour overnight shift)
B) watch soccer (Portugal - Brazil should be a good match)
C) go do my errands now and sleep LATER (have to go back into work tonight)
D) sit here and say fuggit about A, B and C
E) Ron Paul
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:01:32am |
re: #401 Fozzie Bear
The thing is, you are completely ignoring the reason that the party of "can't" is the party of can't.
Well, educate us? I say it's because it's business as usual... caving in to special interest... big money... big business... both side do it all the time... and it's some fucking illusion of you think otherwise.
You talk about whether or not I am "post-partisan?" Shit, maybe you need to look at yourself and wonder if you are holding on to a moonbeam. The feds, all in all, are fucking you royally, and you give them the thumbs up.
Blind.
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:01:35am |
re: #403 darthstar
Yahoo's toolbar is embedded in lots of shit out there. You must have accepted the defaults on some application. But you can uninstall it through the control panel, or at least hide it through the view/menus on your browser.
I'm fussing with it now...my screen flashed a couple of times and LGF crashed, I shut off the browser and when it came back up there was Yahoo in my face...thanks for the tips
| 415 |
MandyManners Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:01:54am |
And when money doesn't work, Ortega's ruling Sandinista Front is using strong-arm tactics to silence the opposition, including the removal of four democratically elected mayors in the past month, the analysts say.
Several opposition lawmakers in the National Assembly have accused the Sandinistas of offering substantial sums of money to reach the 56 votes -- or 60 percent of lawmakers -- needed to reverse the constitutional ban on consecutive reelection and legitimize Ortega's 2011 candidacy. Sandinista lawmakers deny the allegations.
A Sandinista-controlled division of the Supreme Court ruled last year that the reelection ban doesn't apply to Ortega, who is already advertising his candidacy on billboards across the capital. But to eliminate doubt about whether his candidacy is legal, Sandinistas are moving to reform the constitution and strike the reelection ban altogether, analysts say.
SNIP
Since returning to power in 2007, Ortega has received about $1.1 billion in aid from Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez, according to the Central Bank. Accusations that Sandinistas have offered bribes have caused rifts and suspicions among the opposition.
SNIP
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Ayeless in Ghazi Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:02:11am |
New ocean discovered in Africa - not kidding:
Africa 'witnessing birth of a new ocean'
Africa is witnessing the birth of a new ocean, according to scientists at the Royal Society.
Geologists working in the remote Afar region of Ethiopia say the ocean will eventually split the African continent in two, though it will take about 10 million years.
Lead researcher Tim Wright who is presenting the research at the Royal Society's Summer Exhibition, described the events as "truly incredible".
Used to understanding changes in the planet on timescales of millions of years, the international team of scientists including Dr Wright have seen amazing changes in Afar in the past five years, where the continent is cracking open, quite literally underneath their feet.
In 2005, a 60km long stretch of the earth opened up to a width of eight metres over a period of just ten days.
Hot, molten rock from deep within the Earth is trickling to the surface and creating the split.
Underground eruptions are still continuing and, ultimately, the horn of Africa will fall away and a new ocean will form.
continued:
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
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laZardo Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:02:28am |
re: #410 sattv4u2
Decisions Decisions Decisions
A) sleep for several hours (just got home after a 12 hour overnight shift)
B) watch soccer (Portugal - Brazil should be a good match)
B) go do my errands now and sleep LATER (have to go back into work tonight)
C) sit here and say fuggit about A and B
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:02:51am |
re: #410 sattv4u2
Decisions Decisions Decisions
A) sleep for several hours (just got home after a 12 hour overnight shift)
B) watch soccer (Portugal - Brazil should be a good match)
C) go do my errands now and sleep LATER (have to go back into work tonight)
D) sit here and say fuggit about A, B and C
OOOPPSSS ,,, B) was meant to be Chile vs. Spain and Switzerland vs. Honduras
| 419 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:03:25am |
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:03:37am |
re: #416 Jimmah
New ocean discovered in Africa - not kidding:
continued:[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
Release the Kraken!
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researchok Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:03:59am |
re: #390 iceweasel
Almonte's family tipped off the FBI about him and immediately cooperated with the authorities for years before this 2010 arrest.
In attempting to blame the Feds, Alessa's parents only indicate their complete unfitness as parents.
While the Columbine adults failed miserably as parents (as in in how do you not know your kid has guns and pipe bombs in his room you were unaware of) Alessa's parents are far more sinister. They kniew he was dysfuctional and did nothing. They knew he expressed homicidal thoughts and did nothing.
There are equally as culpable as their dysfunctional kid. They enabled him and his bad behavior and continue to do so now by apologizing for him and placing the blame anywhere they can- except where it belongs.
Imagine a parent whop knew their kid had aids and did nothing to stop him from having sex others. They are as culpable as their kid.
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Fozzie Bear Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:04:05am |
re: #407 albusteve
no I'm not...dem legislation sucks, you seem to be ignoring that
As initially proposed, the financial reform bill was strong.
As initially proposed, the public option was a great idea.
Congress is where great ideas go to die. The ideas start out strong, then cynicism and mistrust allows them to leave the job unfinished, or watered down.
There are plenty of good people in congress, trying hard to get things done. What is needed is people who pay attention and reward the good actors, not this kind of nihilistic tripe.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:04:37am |
re: #416 Jimmah
New ocean discovered in Africa - not kidding:
continued:
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
I'm calling my real estate agent. I'm putting a deposit down NOW for acres of ocean front property!
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lawhawk Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:05:46am |
re: #390 iceweasel
Absolutely. You should make that its own LGF page. Excellent comment and rebuttal to the family's denial (not just the river in Egypt) about their son's violent tendencies and his descent into jihad.
| 425 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:06:01am |
re: #406 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Good day, fellow lizards. What's the good word?
Hail Satan!
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:06:23am |
re: #422 Fozzie Bear
As initially proposed, the financial reform bill was strong.
As initially proposed, the public option was a great idea.
Congress is where great ideas go to die. The ideas start out strong, then cynicism and mistrust allows them to leave the job unfinished, or watered down.
There are plenty of good people in congress, trying hard to get things done. What is needed is people who pay attention and reward the good actors, not this kind of nihilistic tripe.
Correction... "The Democrat majority Congress is where ideas go to die..."
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:08:07am |
re: #422 Fozzie Bear
There are plenty of good people in congress, trying hard to get things done
Are there any on the party of "NO" side, or just the side thats making an "effort to produce good legislation,"?
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Four More Tears Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:09:15am |
re: #426 Walter L. Newton
Correction... "The Democrat majority Congress is where ideas go to die..."
Uh huh. And every week, from now until the Republicans take back the Senate, there will be weekly performances of "The Filibuster" on Capitol Hill...
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researchok Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:10:20am |
California welfare recipients withdrew $1.8 million at casino ATMs over eight months
California welfare recipients using state-issued debit cards withdrew more than $1.8 million in taxpayer cash on casino floors between October 2009 and last month, state officials said Thursday.
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger issued an executive order requiring welfare recipients to promise they will use cash benefits only to "meet the basic subsistence needs" of their families. The order also gave the state Department of Social Services seven days to produce a plan to reduce other types of "waste, fraud and abuse" in the welfare program.
The moves came after The Times reported Wednesday that officials at the department failed to notice for years that welfare recipients could use the state-issued cards to withdraw taxpayer cash at more than half of the tribal casinos and state-licensed poker rooms in California. The state initiated the debit card program in 2002.
Casino withdrawals, which represented far less than 1% of total welfare spending during the eight months for which the department released data, averaged just over $227,392 a month....
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:11:15am |
re: #429 JasonA
Uh huh. And every week, from now until the Republicans take back the Senate, there will be weekly performances of "The Filibuster" on Capitol Hill...
JAson, you learn in life, sometimes NO is the right answer
5 year old,, "Mommy,, can I have a beer?"
10 year old,,"Granpa, can I have those matches?"
14 year old.."Dad, can I take the SUV for a spin?"
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blueraven Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:11:29am |
re: #426 Walter L. Newton
Correction... "The Democrat majority Congress is where ideas go to die..."
But you are not partisan...lol
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:12:02am |
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Four More Tears Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:12:09am |
re: #432 sattv4u2
Yes. I see the similarity between those examples and legislation...
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:12:54am |
re: #433 blueraven
But you are not partisan...lol
who's in charge of both houses AND the executive office
not partisan ,,, reality! Walter has placed the knock on Repubs/ Conservatives many a time
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:13:10am |
re: #432 sattv4u2
JAson, you learn in life, sometimes NO is the right answer
5 year old,, "Mommy,, can I have a beer?"
10 year old,,"Granpa, can I have those matches?"
14 year old.."Dad, can I take the SUV for a spin?"
Mommy, can we give the unemployed another extension?
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:13:22am |
re: #429 JasonA
Uh huh. And every week, from now until the Republicans take back the Senate, there will be weekly performances of "The Filibuster" on Capitol Hill...
The GOP is screwing with this, something that I agree needs to be passed, with strong requirements... that said... what we are seeing here is the typical pandering to special interests, big money and big business... both side do it... they tell us they won't/don't... if you believe otherwise... it's a fantasy..
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darthstar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:13:53am |
Uh-oh...Bobby Jindal playing politics with the National Guard, and gets caught in a lie.
But Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, the national incident commander in charge of the government's response to the spill, said Jindal is just flat wrong.
"There is nothing standing in the governor's way from utilizing more National Guard troops," Allen said.
In fact, the Coast Guard says every request to use the National Guard has been approved, usually within a day. Now Jindal's office acknowledged to CBS News the governor has not specifically asked for more Guard troops to be deployed.
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abolitionist Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:14:04am |
re: #416 Jimmah
Excerpted from your quote: In 2005, a 60km long stretch of the earth opened up to a width of eight metres over a period of just ten days.
Hot, molten rock from deep within the Earth is trickling to the surface and creating the split.
I imagine the slow thermal up and down convection currents within the earth likely affect climate too. I'm assuming they shift around somewhat chaotically, rather than "staying put" with respect to the continents. When there's an upward flow under a major land mass (vs oceans), the heat transfer to the surface would be reduced for a while.
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darthstar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:14:22am |
re: #439 darthstar
Uh-oh...Bobby Jindal playing politics with the National Guard, and gets caught in a lie.
But Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, the national incident commander in charge of the government's response to the spill, said Jindal is just flat wrong.
"There is nothing standing in the governor's way from utilizing more National Guard troops," Allen said.
In fact, the Coast Guard says every request to use the National Guard has been approved, usually within a day. Now Jindal's office acknowledged to CBS News the governor has not specifically asked for more Guard troops to be deployed.
Bolded stuff should have been a blockquote.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:15:13am |
re: #437 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Mommy, can we give the unemployed another extension?
Dad, can we buy lots of stuff with money we don't have, that we'll have to borrow from the guy across town that really doesn't like us?
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:16:11am |
re: #433 blueraven
But you are not partisan...lol
Right... go back up thread and read what I have said on this topic. The party of "NO" has tried to obstruct this... this bill needed to be passed... with strongs rules and regulations to put a halt to all this unbridled machinations with the publics money.. the Dems had a strong bill.. the Dems gave in to their OWN special interests... and screw the pooch... partisan... no.. facts... yes.
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:16:41am |
re: #442 sattv4u2
Dad, can we buy lots of stuff with money we don't have, that we'll have to borrow from the guy across town that really doesn't like us?
Yeah, we wanna run two wars with no end, pay for tax cuts during those wars, Medicare Part D, No Child Left Behind, etc, etc...
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laZardo Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:16:54am |
re: #443 Walter L. Newton
Right... go back up thread and read what I have said on this topic. The party of "NO" has tried to obstruct this... this bill needed to be passed... with strongs rules and regulations to put a halt to all this unbridled machinations with the publics money.. the Dems had a strong bill.. the Dems gave in to their OWN special interests... and screw the pooch... partisan... no.. facts... yes.
Blue Dogs, my guess.
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Fozzie Bear Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:17:16am |
re: #426 Walter L. Newton
Correction... "The Democrat majority Congress is where ideas go to die..."
Thanks to GOP opposition supported by republicans such as yourself, yes.
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:17:18am |
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:17:36am |
re: #433 blueraven
But you are not partisan...lol
And I'm suppose to be happy with a bill that I feel has been watered down, a bill that even the left is complaining about in its' current form, and that makes me partisan... bullshit.
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Four More Tears Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:18:02am |
re: #444 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Yeah, we wanna run two wars with no end, pay for tax cuts during those wars, Medicare Part D, No Child Left Behind, etc, etc...
Those Democrats were so reckless with their spending...
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:18:14am |
re: #446 Fozzie Bear
Thanks to GOP opposition supported by republicans such as yourself, yes.
Where above have I supported the GOP opposition to this... show me?
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:19:17am |
re: #446 Fozzie Bear
Thanks to GOP opposition supported by republicans such as yourself, yes.
P.S. I am not a Republican... and I did not vote for any Republican candidates in the last election cycle.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:20:21am |
re: #444 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Yeah, we wanna run two wars with no end, pay for tax cuts during those wars, Medicare Part D, No Child Left Behind, etc, etc...
Yup,, because wars are something one "WANTS" to run
Tax cuts that produce higher revenues each time it's been tried (see Kennedy, John,,,, Reagan,,, Ronald ,,,)
Medicare Part D that was pushed by both sides
NCLB that was authored by Kennedy, Ted
thanks for playing
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:21:36am |
re: #449 JasonA
Those Democrats were so reckless with their spending...
Well, I'm not dropping the whole kit-and-kaboodle on Bush or the Republican's heads, because at no time during the former's presidency did the latter ever obtain the sort of majority the Democrats have enjoyed since '08.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:21:38am |
re: #451 Walter L. Newton
P.S. I am not a Republican... and I did not vote for any Republican candidates in the last election cycle.
You pushed the lever for Cynthia McKinney, didn't you!!
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Nimed Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:21:40am |
PORTUGAL AND BRAZIL ADVANCE TO STAGE 2!
Man, my 3 favorite teams (USA Portugal and Brazil) are doing well. Best World Cup evah for Luso-Americans!
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Ayeless in Ghazi Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:22:07am |
Mystery surrounds 'horse-boy' on Google Street View:
Mystery surrounds a man wearing a horse's head who has been captured on Google's Street View in Aberdeen.
The man - who has become known as "horse-boy" - can be seen in the Hardgate area of the city.
The sighting has become a popular attraction on Google's service, which offers a photographic map of streets.
The man is wearing dark trousers, a purple shirt - and a brown and white horse's head.
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
Aberdeen is of course no stranger to unusual man-animal interactions.
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laZardo Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:22:48am |
re: #455 Nimed
PORTUGAL AND BRAZIL ADVANCE TO STAGE 2!
Man, my 3 favorite teams (USA Portugal and Brazil) are doing well. Best World Cup evah for Luso-Americans!
England vs Germany on Sunday.
Coincidentially, so is Top Gear's new season premiere.
/because everyone is wingnuts for Jeremy Clarkson.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:23:05am |
re: #455 Nimed
PORTUGAL AND BRAZIL ADVANCE TO STAGE 2!
Man, my 3 favorite teams (USA Portugal and Brazil) are doing well. Best World Cup evah for Luso-Americans!
Is Nauru still in it !?!?!
//[Link: geography.about.com...]
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:23:05am |
re: #452 sattv4u2
Yup,, because wars are something one "WANTS" to run
Tax cuts that produce higher revenues each time it's been tried (see Kennedy, John,,, Reagan,,, Ronald ,,,)
Medicare Part D that was pushed by both sides
NCLB that was authored by Kennedy, Tedthanks for playing
"But our deficit-spending was good spending, Mommy!"
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bratwurst Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:23:35am |
re: #455 Nimed
PORTUGAL AND BRAZIL ADVANCE TO STAGE 2!
Man, my 3 favorite teams (USA Portugal and Brazil) are doing well. Best World Cup evah for Luso-Americans!
Quite a weekend lies ahead. Who do you fancy in England/Germany and Mexico/Argentina?
By the way, you mentioned last weekend that the US had never advanced to this stage before. I just wanted to make sure you got my correction. We reached the round of 16 in 1994 and the quarterfinals in 2002.
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Four More Tears Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:23:39am |
re: #452 sattv4u2
Tax cuts that produce higher revenues each time it's been tried (see Kennedy, John,,, Reagan,,, Ronald ,,,)
Will you drop this fucking myth? Please? For fuck's sake...
Have tax cuts always resulted in higher tax revenues and more economic growth as many tax cut proponents claim?
A:
No. In fact, economists say tax cuts do not spark enough growth to pay for themselves.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:24:17am |
re: #456 Jimmah
The man is wearing dark trousers, a purple shirt - and a brown and white horse's head.
moron ,,, everyone knows one wears a pink Polo shirt when attired with a horses head!
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:24:35am |
re: #456 Jimmah
Mystery surrounds 'horse-boy' on Google Street View:
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]Aberdeen is of course no stranger to unusual man-animal interactions.
Probably Sarah Jessica Parker's brother.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:24:58am |
re: #446 Fozzie Bear
Thanks to GOP opposition supported by republicans such as yourself, yes.
I'm going to assume that you are blowing smoke out your ass if you can't back up this statement with some facts. Show me where I have supported the GOP opposition to this financial reform bill?
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:25:43am |
re: #461 JasonA
Will you drop this fucking myth? Please? For fuck's sake...
Have tax cuts always resulted in higher tax revenues and more economic growth as many tax cut proponents claim?
A:
No. In fact, economists say tax cuts do not spark enough growth to pay for themselves.
or
[Link: www.heritage.org...]
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KingKenrod Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:26:04am |
re: #429 JasonA
Uh huh. And every week, from now until the Republicans take back the Senate, there will be weekly performances of "The Filibuster" on Capitol Hill...
The unemployment bill which did not get cloture yesterday is an example of how both parties are responsible for legislation failure.
The legislation included a poison pill (a tax hike on small business) that moderate GOP senators couldn't vote for. Harry Reid promised the tax hike would be removed from the final legislation, but couldn't get his caucus to go along.
[Link: www.businessweek.com...]
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laZardo Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:26:05am |
re: #456 Jimmah
Aberdeen is of course no stranger to unusual man-animal interactions.
I'm normally a pro-science guy, but something about creating human organs for transplant in animals reeks of a slippery slope.
Oh, and that's not a dog in the picture.
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lawhawk Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:26:22am |
re: #461 JasonA
Umm, even that fact check is chock full of caveats and finds that cutting corp taxes actually results in increased revenues - with the effects greatest in places like Ireland (which have become tax havens for businesses compared with mainland Europe or England).
Considering that corporate taxes are essentially passed through to consumers via higher costs for the goods sold, this makes some sense. They are able to have higher profits and/or higher revenues as a result of lowering costs.
| 470 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:27:04am |
re: #449 JasonA
Those Democrats were so reckless with their spending...
The GOP was extremely reckless with their spending over the eight years that we had a Republican president... the Democrats are continuing a time honored tradition.
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Fozzie Bear Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:27:36am |
re: #464 Walter L. Newton
I'm going to assume that you are blowing smoke out your ass if you can't back up this statement with some facts. Show me where I have supported the GOP opposition to this financial reform bill?
No, it was more of a jab at your obvious partisan views.
I own my partisan leanings. Own yours.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:28:04am |
re: #468 JasonA
lol@heritage.org
[Link: www.cato.org...]
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
[Link: www.discoverthenetworks.org...]
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researchok Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:28:23am |
re: #456 Jimmah
Mystery surrounds 'horse-boy' on Google Street View:
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
Aberdeen is of course no stranger to unusual man-animal interactions.
Looks like my great aunt.
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KingKenrod Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:28:39am |
re: #461 JasonA
Will you drop this fucking myth? Please? For fuck's sake...
Have tax cuts always resulted in higher tax revenues and more economic growth as many tax cut proponents claim?
A:
No. In fact, economists say tax cuts do not spark enough growth to pay for themselves.
That article says the tax cuts spurred economic growth.
If the choice is between economic growth and govt revenues, I'll take economic growth.
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Four More Tears Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:29:31am |
re: #469 lawhawk
Oh. I didn't know we were talking about corporate taxes. By all means, let's reduce the amount we take from them immediately.
Oh, wait...
GE, Exxon Paid No U.S. Income Taxes in '09
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:29:38am |
re: #474 researchok
Looks like my great aunt.
Researchoks great aunt walks into a bar
Bartender says "Why the long face?"
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:30:23am |
re: #467 laZardo
One of my favorite local legends is the Goatman.
[Link: www.unknown-creatures.com...]
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:30:23am |
re: #429 JasonA
Uh huh. And every week, from now until the Republicans take back the Senate, there will be weekly performances of "The Filibuster" on Capitol Hill...
If the Republicans take back the Senate, there will be weekly performances of "The Filibuster" on Capitol Hill...
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Nimed Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:30:28am |
re: #460 bratwurst
Quite a weekend lies ahead. Who do you fancy in England/Germany and Mexico/Argentina?
By the way, you mentioned last weekend that the US had never advanced to this stage before. I just wanted to make sure you got my correction. We reached the round of 16 in 1994 and the quarterfinals in 2002.
Yeah, I got a little excited. Then saw your corrections and decided to stay silent. Did you have to rub it in? :)
The favorites in those games are Germany and Argentina. I'm kinda undecided in those 2 matches, so I'm gonna go with "may be the best team win". Who are you rooting for?
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Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:31:03am |
re: #404 Walter L. Newton
I think the financial institutions needed a good crackdown...
Sure. Once we properly understood what the hell went wrong. Rushing to say you "fixed something" is as partisan a move as "no to everything".
If you went to a doctor and he said he wasn't quite sure why your arm hurt but that he was going to replace three ligaments and two veins just to "do something", you'd shove a tongue depressor down his throat and call 911.
| 482 |
Donna Ballard Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:31:08am |
Good Morning Everyone and Happy Friday to you all! I trust everyone out there in Lizard Land feels much better than I do this morning?
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:31:09am |
re: #471 Fozzie Bear
No, it was more of a jab at your obvious partisan views.
I own my partisan leanings. Own yours.
Non answer... but I understand.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:31:22am |
re: #459 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
"But our deficit-spending was good spending, Mommy!"
may not have been GOOD, but it sure as hell was LESS!
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:32:28am |
re: #484 sattv4u2
may not have been GOOD, but it sure as hell was LESS!
You're right, it usually takes less to start a horrific trainwreck than it does to stop it or clean up afterwards.
| 486 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:33:16am |
re: #481 Aceofwhat?
Sure. Once we properly understood what the hell went wrong. Rushing to say you "fixed something" is as partisan a move as "no to everything".
If you went to a doctor and he said he wasn't quite sure why your arm hurt but that he was going to replace three ligaments and two veins just to "do something", you'd shove a tongue depressor down his throat and call 911.
Well... don't worry... Congress isn't rushing... they are not even sure if they fixed anything... as Dodd stated "No one will know until this is actually in place how it works. But we believe we've done something that has been needed for a long time. It took a crisis to bring us to the point where we could actually get this job done."
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
Politicians say the wackiest things.
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:33:28am |
re: #465 sattv4u2
or
[Link: www.heritage.org...]
Heritage brings up the 20s, Kennedy, and Reagan. You notice that, in all three instances, we weren't involved in war operations?
| 488 |
Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:33:43am |
| 490 |
bratwurst Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:34:56am |
re: #480 Nimed
Yeah, I got a little excited. Then saw your corrections and decided to stay silent. Did you have to rub it in? :)
The favorites in those games are Germany and Argentina. I'm kinda undecided in those 2 matches, so I'm gonna go with "may be the best team win". Who are you rooting for?
Germany over England for sure! I spent 5+ years in Germany, and Capello's boys deserve to be punished for playing mind-numbingly boring football. I have a very hard time rooting for Mexico, but it would be quite an achievement for our region if both the US and Mexico are in the quarterfinals for the second time in 3 World Cups.
| 491 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:35:00am |
re: #486 Walter L. Newton
Well... don't worry... Congress isn't rushing... they are not even sure if they fixed anything... as Dodd stated "No one will know until this is actually in place how it works. But we believe we've done something that has been needed for a long time. It took a crisis to bring us to the point where we could actually get this job done."
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
Politicians say the wackiest things.
Shit... that was awful "partisan" of me to point out that statement by Dodd.
| 492 |
albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:35:03am |
Yahoo installed their own toolbar somehow...and in the process I lost my Firefox toolbar with my bookmarks etc...I reinstalled Firefox but I still have no toolbar...both were there a while ago, but Firefox's vanished...Yahoo says to click the pencil icon on their bar and proceed with uninstall, but there is no pencil icon and no trace of Yahoo in my control panel programs...wtf?...how do I get my Firefox toolbar back?
| 493 |
Donna Ballard Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:35:29am |
| 494 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:35:54am |
re: #492 albusteve
Yahoo installed their own toolbar somehow...and in the process I lost my Firefox toolbar with my bookmarks etc...I reinstalled Firefox but I still have no toolbar...both were there a while ago, but Firefox's vanished...Yahoo says to click the pencil icon on their bar and proceed with uninstall, but there is no pencil icon and no trace of Yahoo in my control panel programs...wtf?...how do I get my Firefox toolbar back?
Send me 10 Maple Leaf gold coins and I'll tell you.
| 495 |
Nimed Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:36:00am |
Right now, I'm praying that Portugal doesn't play against Spain. Spain has sort of sucked so far, but make no mistake, they are a fucking sleeping giant. They have a group of extremely talented players that can decide a game with their individual skill.
| 496 |
Fozzie Bear Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:36:28am |
| 497 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:37:41am |
re: #485 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
You're right, it usually takes less to start a horrific trainwreck than it does to stop it or clean up afterwards.
CHANGE
HOPE!
| 498 |
Nimed Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:38:07am |
re: #490 bratwurst
Germany over England for sure! I spent 5+ years in Germany, and Capello's boys deserve to be punished for playing mind-numbingly boring football. I have a very hard time rooting for Mexico, but it would be quite an achievement for our region if both the US and Mexico are in the quarterfinals for the second time in 3 World Cups.
Oh right, bratwurst. I should have guessed.
| 499 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:38:53am |
re: #496 Fozzie Bear
Dodd's an asshole.
Why he was put out front on this is beyond me.
See... don't be so hard on yourself... that doesn't seem like a partisan statement on your part. And we agreed on something. :)
| 500 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:39:01am |
re: #487 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Heritage brings up the 20s, Kennedy, and Reagan. You notice that, in all three instances, we weren't involved in war operations?
In the case of Kennedy and Reagan we WERE involved in huge military build-ups
| 501 |
Targetpractice Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:39:01am |
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Fozzie Bear Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:39:02am |
re: #487 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Heritage brings up the 20s, Kennedy, and Reagan. You notice that, in all three instances, we weren't involved in war operations?
But war isn't free?
You would think it was, by the way we cut taxes during it.
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ReamWorks SKG Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:39:18am |
re: #430 researchok
It is possible (and I'm being serious) that some of these people just went to a nearby Casino for a bargain buffet, etc?
When you give cash to people, it's hard to attach strings (which is why many efforts to do this--whether welfare checks or $8,000 first-time-homebuyer tax credits--are rife with fraud.)
And speaking of the $8,000 first-time-homebuyer tax credit, there's a 50% fraud rate on it ( [Link: www.npr.org...] ) with some egregious cases ( [Link: blogs.forbes.com...] ) yet I don't hear the Governor trying to stop this welfare! In fact, California state refuses to collect income tax on forgiven mortgage debt. I suppose it's more politically popular to go after welfare queens than middle class "victims"...
| 504 |
albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:39:33am |
re: #494 Walter L. Newton
Send me 10 Maple Leaf gold coins and I'll tell you.
oh thanks....you know I only have the Oak Leafs...thanks for nothing
| 505 |
wrenchwench Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:39:49am |
re: #493 Dragon_Lady
Adorable! I love LOL Cats.
Well then, here. This might make you feel a little better:
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:40:32am |
re: #501 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Filibuster!
Whine!
"we'll have to pass the bill to see whats in it"
| 507 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:40:36am |
re: #504 albusteve
oh thanks...you know I only have the Oak Leafs...thanks for nothing
I really don't know Steve... all this computer stuff is like magic to me... booga booga... poof.
| 508 |
albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:40:37am |
re: #496 Fozzie Bear
Dodd's an asshole.
Why he was put out front on this is beyond me.
he should be in jail, for his participation in the FM/FM scandal that wasn't
| 509 |
Nimed Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:40:56am |
re: #492 albusteve
Yahoo installed their own toolbar somehow...and in the process I lost my Firefox toolbar with my bookmarks etc...I reinstalled Firefox but I still have no toolbar...both were there a while ago, but Firefox's vanished...Yahoo says to click the pencil icon on their bar and proceed with uninstall, but there is no pencil icon and no trace of Yahoo in my control panel programs...wtf?...how do I get my Firefox toolbar back?
View-->Toolbars-->Bookmarks Toolbar.
| 510 |
AK-47% Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:41:21am |
re: #469 lawhawk
Umm, even that fact check is chock full of caveats and finds that cutting corp taxes actually results in increased revenues - with the effects greatest in places like Ireland (which have become tax havens for businesses compared with mainland Europe or England).
Considering that corporate taxes are essentially passed through to consumers via higher costs for the goods sold, this makes some sense. They are able to have higher profits and/or higher revenues as a result of lowering costs.
In the good old days of nationa economy and barriers to international trade and investment, there was a lot more incentive to invest tax cuts into jobs that would benefit the USA.
Nowadays that money is invested wherever it brings the highest rate of return, and if that is India, Indonesia or Taiwan, then that is where it gets invested,.
The USA sees nothing of it other than more cheap consumer goods that people can sell at the Wal-Mart, where they now work for minimum wage without benefits now that they have lost their job because their previous employer closed the factory and relocated abroad.
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:41:21am |
re: #500 sattv4u2
In the case of Kennedy and Reagan we WERE involved in huge military build-ups
But not active operations, right? Beans, Bullets, and Bandages are cheaper when you're stockpiling rather than producing and transporting them for the front lines.
| 512 |
Fozzie Bear Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:41:39am |
re: #508 albusteve
he should be in jail, for his participation in the FM/FM scandal that wasn't
Yes, he probably should. And he probably would be were the political climate different than it is today.
| 513 |
albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:41:39am |
re: #507 Walter L. Newton
I really don't know Steve... all this computer stuff is like magic to me... booga booga... poof.
pretty much what happened...I didn't knowing allow this Yahoo thing, it somehow imposed itself on me
| 514 |
AK-47% Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:42:13am |
re: #477 sattv4u2
Researchoks great aunt walks into a bar
Bartender says "Why the long face?"
A termite walks into a pub and asks, "Where's the bar tender?"
| 515 |
Donna Ballard Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:42:23am |
re: #505 wrenchwench
Well then, here. This might make you feel a little better:
[Video]
Thank you W.W. It did make me feel better. Its either your video or the meds I took a little while ago, but I think its your video. :-)
| 516 |
Targetpractice Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:42:30am |
re: #506 sattv4u2
"we'll have to pass the bill to see whats in it"
"If we're able to stop Obama on [health care reform], it will be his Waterloo."
| 517 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:43:01am |
re: #511 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
But not active operations, right? Beans, Bullets, and Bandages are cheaper when you're stockpiling rather than producing and transporting them for the front lines.
In both instances they had to substantially increase (nearly) antiquated and depleted stocks. Kenndy was still working with WW 2 remnants while looking down the barrel of a gun. LITERALLY
| 518 |
Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:43:05am |
re: #502 Fozzie Bear
But war isn't free?
You would think it was, by the way we cut taxes during it.
Agree. We ought not have. I felt that Clinton eliminated the deficit in part through too-steep cuts in military spending. However, I believe that Bush erred in the opposite direction, by masking the cost of the war through overgenerous spending and some questionable tax cuts.
| 519 |
albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:44:42am |
re: #509 Nimed
View-->Toolbars-->Bookmarks Toolbar.
there is no 'View'...all there is, is the net addy box then Yahoos search box followed by six icons beneath it...no view, or edit, or tools ect...how can that be....sorry to be a pest
| 520 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:44:43am |
re: #516 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
"If we're able to stop Obama on [health care reform], it will be his Waterloo."
I see, so HOPING you can stop something (with no real chance of doing it due to the majorities) is EXACTLY like saying we HAVE to pass leg before we can see it
TRANSPARANCY!
| 521 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:45:02am |
re: #514 ralphieboy
A termite walks into a pub and asks, "Where's the bar tender?"
A grasshopper walks into a bar and hops up onto the counter. The bartender says "we have a drink named after you". The grasshopper replies "You have a drink named Carl?"
| 522 |
Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:45:02am |
re: #518 Aceofwhat?
Agree. We ought not have. I felt that Clinton eliminated the deficit in part through too-steep cuts in military spending. However, I believe that Bush erred in the opposite direction, by masking the cost of the war through overgenerous spending and some questionable tax cuts.
Sounds like a typical partisan hack!!! Wait...what?//
| 523 |
Targetpractice Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:45:48am |
re: #517 sattv4u2
In both instances they had to substantially increase (nearly) antiquated and depleted stocks. Kenndy was still working with WW 2 remnants while looking down the barrel of a gun. LITERALLY
So, you're contending that upgrading/rebuilding stocks is as expensive as two ongoing military operations?
| 524 |
Fozzie Bear Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:45:52am |
re: #519 albusteve
there is no 'View'...all there is, is the net addy box then Yahoos search box followed by six icons beneath it...no view, or edit, or tools ect...how can that be...sorry to be a pest
Press F10.
Your menus will appear
| 525 |
lawhawk Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:46:18am |
re: #510 ralphieboy
Those are reasonable points. But it also points out that raising taxes will also send individuals and corporations fleeing to lower tax burden jurisdictions - or outsourcing operations to lower cost areas. The burdens to do so have been reduced with globalization.
| 527 |
Targetpractice Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:46:32am |
re: #520 sattv4u2
I see, so HOPING you can stop something (with no real chance of doing it due to the majorities) is EXACTLY like saying we HAVE to pass leg before we can see it
TRANSPARANCY!
Oh, I thought we were playing "Dueling Bullshit." My bad.
| 528 |
albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:46:35am |
| 529 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:46:42am |
Dave Weigel Resigns From Washington Post Following Firestorm
Did he really say anything that outrageous? He must have insulted the wrong people.
| 530 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:46:46am |
re: #523 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
So, you're contending that upgrading/rebuilding stocks is as expensive as two ongoing military operations?
yeah , thats ZACLLY what I said!
{sigh}
| 531 |
Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:47:06am |
re: #521 Mad Al-Jaffee
A grasshopper walks into a bar and hops up onto the counter. The bartender says "we have a drink named after you". The grasshopper replies "You have a drink named Carl?"
A guy walks into a bar and says: "Quick, give me three shots of whiskey!! He slams them down and says: "Quick, give me three shots of tequila!!!" The bartender says "What's your hurry man?" Guy shouts "I don't have any money!!!" as he runs from the bar.
H/T FBV
| 532 |
darthstar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:47:08am |
| 533 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:47:09am |
re: #527 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Oh, I thought we were playing "Dueling Bullshit." My bad.
one of us was slinging BS, the other, not so much
| 534 |
Fozzie Bear Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:47:27am |
re: #518 Aceofwhat?
Agree. We ought not have. I felt that Clinton eliminated the deficit in part through too-steep cuts in military spending. However, I believe that Bush erred in the opposite direction, by masking the cost of the war through overgenerous spending and some questionable tax cuts.
Well, we are still at war. And the tax cuts, particularly for those making a fuckton of money, persist. And it pisses me off to hear people who support those cuts complain about the deficit.
(Not directed at you)
| 535 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:47:39am |
re: #532 darthstar
if you're lucky...
(((shhhh,,, he's actually already a better driver than Mrs SATTY!!)
| 536 |
Donna Ballard Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:48:24am |
| 537 |
researchok Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:48:26am |
re: #503 reuven
It is possible (and I'm being serious) that some of these people just went to a nearby Casino for a bargain buffet, etc?
When you give cash to people, it's hard to attach strings (which is why many efforts to do this--whether welfare checks or $8,000 first-time-homebuyer tax credits--are rife with fraud.)
And speaking of the $8,000 first-time-homebuyer tax credit, there's a 50% fraud rate on it ( [Link: www.npr.org...] ) with some egregious cases ( [Link: blogs.forbes.com...] ) yet I don't hear the Governor trying to stop this welfare! In fact, California state refuses to collect income tax on forgiven mortgage debt. I suppose it's more politically popular to go after welfare queens than middle class "victims"...
Good links.
As to the buffet idea, it seems to me that driving from CA to NV for a buffet only is well....not likely.
It isn't as if there are no buffets in CA
| 538 |
albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:48:32am |
and thanks too...now if I can get it to stay up...the toolbar vanishes when I left click my mouse, but I'm on it
| 539 |
Fozzie Bear Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:48:45am |
re: #529 Killgore Trout
Dave Weigel Resigns From Washington Post Following Firestorm
Did he really say anything that outrageous? He must have insulted the wrong people.
What he apparently said was:
"this would be a vastly better world to live in if Matt Drudge decided to handle his emotional problems more responsibly, and set himself on fire."
hahahahahahhaha
| 540 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:48:48am |
re: #529 Killgore Trout
Dave Weigel Resigns From Washington Post Following Firestorm
Did he really say anything that outrageous? He must have insulted the wrong people.
Hmmmm... if he said this here on LGF...
"Weigel, who covered the conservative beat for the Washington Post, said in an e-mail to the liberal JournoList group that "this would be a vastly better world to live in if Matt Drudge decided to handle his emotional problems more responsibly, and set himself on fire.""
I suspect he would been banned.
| 541 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:48:49am |
Breaking: WaPo's David Weigel Resigns After More Conservative-bashing Emails Disclosed
“Honestly, it’s been tough to find fresh angles sometimes–how many times can I report that these [tea party] activists are joyfully signing up with the agenda of discredited right-winger X and discredited right-wing group Y?” Weigel lamented in one February email.
In other posts, Weigel describes conservatives as using the media to “violently, angrily divide America.” According to Weigel, their motives include “racism” and protecting “white privilege,” and for some of the top conservatives in D.C., a nihilistic thirst for power.
“There’s also the fact that neither the pundits, nor possibly the Republicans, will be punished for their crazy outbursts of racism. Newt Gingrich is an amoral blowhard who resigned in disgrace, and Pat Buchanan is an anti-Semite who was drummed out of the movement by William F. Buckley. Both are now polluting my inbox and TV with their bellowing and minority-bashing. They’re never going to go away or be deprived of their soapboxes,” Weigel wrote.
Of Matt Drudge, Weigel remarked, “It’s really a disgrace that an amoral shut-in like Drudge maintains the influence he does on the news cycle while gay-baiting, lying, and flubbing facts to this degree.”…
Republicans? “Ratf--king [Obama] on every bill.” Palin? Tried to “ratf--k” a moderate Republican in a contentious primary in New York. Limbaugh? Used “ratf--king tactics” in urging Republican activists to vote for Hillary Clinton in open primaries after Obama had all but beat her for the Democratic nomination.
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darthstar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:49:10am |
re: #529 Killgore Trout
Dave Weigel Resigns From Washington Post Following Firestorm
Did he really say anything that outrageous? He must have insulted the wrong people.
He insulted Matt Drudge. One of the most insecure people on the planet.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:49:19am |
re: #536 Dragon_Lady
Be careful! Kid/Car scary thought!
thanks,,, but see 535
When she's behind the wheel, I have a white knuckle death grip on the door handle
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:49:46am |
re: #526 sattv4u2
k ,, son wants to go practice driving
bbl
Is that what the kids are calling it these days?
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Donna Ballard Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:50:39am |
re: #543 sattv4u2
thanks,,, but see 535
When she's behind the wheel, I have a white knuckle death grip on the door handle
Saw 535 just as I posted my 536. Timing, must work on my timing!
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:51:10am |
re: #543 sattv4u2
thanks,,, but see 535
When she's behind the wheel, I have a white knuckle death grip on the door handle
Reminds me of my mother's driving.
"Mom, the light's red! Mom? MOM!!"
| 547 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:51:33am |
re: #542 darthstar
He insulted Matt Drudge. One of the most insecure people on the planet.
I also have a sneaking suspicion that the emails might have been leaked by Brietbart (or one of his operatives). Maybe not, if Brietbart had the emails he would have run an exclusive story on it.
| 548 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:51:52am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:51:59am |
re: #546 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Reminds me of my mother's driving.
"Mom, the light's red! Mom? MOM!!"
Just don't drive like FBV's brother.
| 550 |
Fozzie Bear Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:52:16am |
re: #538 albusteve
and thanks too...now if I can get it to stay up...the toolbar vanishes when I left click my mouse, but I'm on it
F10.
View > Toolbars > Menu Bar
(if you are using firefox)
| 551 |
Daniel Ballard Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:52:19am |
re: #534 Fozzie Bear
If the tax cuts were gone say since Obama took office-and put straight at the deficit, how much of a difference would that be?
| 552 |
laZardo Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:52:57am |
re: #541 Killgore Trout
Not very creative in his use of prefixes to profanity. q:
| 553 |
Nimed Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:53:28am |
re: #529 Killgore Trout
Dave Weigel Resigns From Washington Post Following Firestorm
Did he really say anything that outrageous? He must have insulted the wrong people.
re: #542 darthstar
He insulted Matt Drudge. One of the most insecure people on the planet.
Wow. The apologies weren't enough? Weigel said:
This would be a vastly better world to live in if Matt Drudge decided to handle his emotional problems more responsibly, and set himself on fire.
and he used the expression "Paultards". But all this was on a private mailing list, and he apologized.
[Link: voices.washingtonpost.com...]
| 554 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:53:38am |
re: #551 Rightwingconspirator
If the tax cuts were gone say since Obama took office-and put straight at the deficit, how much of a difference would that be?
None if you spend like mad.
| 555 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:53:53am |
re: #546 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Reminds me of my mother's driving.
"Mom, the light's red! Mom? MOM!!"
Friend of mine is a cop back in my hometown. Once when I went to visit he was stationed at the major intersection. As we were talking a lady pulled up to the red light
The light turned green, yellow and red again. She never moved. My buddy walked up to the car and said
"Lady, those are the only colors we have!"
| 556 |
Donna Ballard Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:54:49am |
re: #546 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Reminds me of my mother's driving.
"Mom, the light's red! Mom? MOM!!"
I got a rid home from a friend on the day the Rodney King Riots were happening, said friend is a former race car driver. I swear he ran every red light and stop light we came too! OMG I thought his driving would kill me and I begged him to let me outta the car, I would have happily taken my chances with the riots rather than risk getting plowed by another car! Never, never again am I getting in a car with him! *shutter*
| 557 |
sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:54:59am |
re: #547 Killgore Trout
I also have a sneaking suspicion that the emails might have been leaked by Brietbart (or one of his operatives). Maybe not, if Brietbart had the emails he would have run an exclusive story on it.
so in the same sentence you accuse AND absolve him of doing it!! cool!!
| 558 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:55:22am |
re: #553 Nimed
Wow. The apologies weren't enough? Weigel said:
This would be a vastly better world to live in if Matt Drudge decided to handle his emotional problems more responsibly, and set himself on fire.
and he used the expression "Paultards". But all this was on a private mailing list, and he apologized.
[Link: voices.washingtonpost.com...]
It is the season... spin, spin, spin...
| 559 |
Daniel Ballard Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:55:51am |
re: #556 Dragon_Lady
You have been practicing with the camera too much. :)
*SHUDDER* I think you meant.
| 561 |
darthstar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:56:32am |
OMFGHZQ! Lady Gaga has more fans on facebook than President Obama. 9.1 million for him, 9.12 million for her. Who will get to 10 million first!
SOSHILLIZM!
| 562 |
Donna Ballard Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:56:47am |
re: #559 Rightwingconspirator
You have been practicing with the camera too much. :)
*SHUDDER* I think you meant.
Yeah, but shutter works too, don't it? :P
| 563 |
Fozzie Bear Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:57:14am |
I happen to agree with Weigel in his assessment of Drudge. If this really was in a private email, it's nobody's business, frankly.
Drudge is an asshole, and Weigel wasn't saying he was going to set Drudge on fire or something. But I have no love for Weigel. Still, I don't get how this is news. It's like high school gossip.
"OMG DID YOU HEAR WHAT DAVE SAID?!?!?!"
| 564 |
Targetpractice Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:57:20am |
re: #561 darthstar
OMFGHZQ! Lady Gaga has more fans on facebook than President Obama. 9.1 million for him, 9.12 million for her. Who will get to 10 million first!
SOSHILLIZM!
I read things like this, then cry a little inside for our republic.
| 565 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:57:44am |
re: #562 Dragon_Lady
If you guys are in the same room, I'm gonna be pissed.
/
| 566 |
laZardo Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:58:10am |
re: #564 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
I read things like this, then cry a little inside for our republic.
Or for humanity in general, in my case.
Then I go get a drink.
/or I would, if I wasn't medicated.
| 567 |
Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:58:13am |
re: #510 ralphieboy
The USA sees nothing of it other than more cheap consumer goods that people can sell at the Wal-Mart, where they now work for minimum wage without benefits now that they have lost their job because their previous employer closed the factory and relocated abroad.
Missing the point. That factory was going to close anyway, because if the same thing can be made for significantly less elsewhere, it will be.
So the only question left is, do you want the company to fold entirely and lose ALL of those jobs, or just the jobs that, at our current level of technology, probably don't deserve to be much higher than minimum wage anyway?
| 568 |
Donna Ballard Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:58:41am |
re: #565 Cannadian Club Akbar
If you guys are in the same room, I'm gonna be pissed.
/
Nope, hes at work, I'm home tryng to pretend I'm not sick.
| 569 |
albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:59:06am |
re: #550 Fozzie Bear
F10.
View > Toolbars > Menu Bar
(if you are using firefox)
it's fixed, thanks to you...I appreciate the help
| 570 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:59:08am |
re: #566 laZardo
Or for humanity in general, in my case.
Then I go get a drink.
/or I would, if I wasn't medicated.
Drinks are medication.
/so young man, needs to learn.
| 571 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:59:11am |
re: #563 Fozzie Bear
I happen to agree with Weigel in his assessment of Drudge. If this really was in a private email, it's nobody's business, frankly.
Drudge is an asshole, and Weigel wasn't saying he was going to set Drudge on fire or something. But I have no love for Weigel. Still, I don't get how this is news. It's like high school gossip.
"OMG DID YOU HEAR WHAT DAVE SAID?!?!?!"
He went a little over the top but I personally don't find his opinions to be that outrageous.
| 572 |
blueraven Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:59:25am |
re: #517 sattv4u2
In both instances they had to substantially increase (nearly) antiquated and depleted stocks. Kenndy was still working with WW 2 remnants while looking down the barrel of a gun. LITERALLY
When Kennedy reduced taxes the tax rate was very high. I don't know the exact rate but top was well over 50%. Certainly there is a time and place for reducing taxes.
In the midst of two wars when the tax rate wasn't overly burdensome, is not one of them.
| 573 |
Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:59:28am |
re: #541 Killgore Trout
Breaking: WaPo's David Weigel Resigns After More Conservative-bashing Emails Disclosed
classy stuff
| 574 |
Targetpractice Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:59:48am |
re: #563 Fozzie Bear
I happen to agree with Weigel in his assessment of Drudge. If this really was in a private email, it's nobody's business, frankly.
Drudge is an asshole, and Weigel wasn't saying he was going to set Drudge on fire or something. But I have no love for Weigel. Still, I don't get how this is news. It's like high school gossip.
"OMG DID YOU HEAR WHAT DAVE SAID?!?!?!"
Haven't you heard? Nothing's private anymore. If you send an email with something that can be used against you, you can bet it will get out.
| 575 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:59:50am |
| 576 |
darthstar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:59:55am |
re: #564 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
I read things like this, then cry a little inside for our republic.
Sadly, I learned this from a three minute story on CNN just now.
| 577 |
ReamWorks SKG Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:00:05am |
re: #537 researchok
Yeah...I'm relatively certain these folks went there to piss away their money. Fact is, a percentage people on welfare have "money problems" just like an alcoholic has "alcohol problems" and will abuse anything you give them. However, you can't be sure, and AFAIK, violated no agreement or law.
On the other hand that there's so much shenanigans going on wrt mortgage fraud and improper accounting for income from forgiven debt, etc yet it's too politically unpopular to touch. Our state can collect tens of millions of dollars if they just audited everyone with a 2nd mortage or HELOC who has either defaulted, or deducted the interest on their state return. All by just enforcing existing laws. But our legislature just won't be tough on people who can be propped up to look like victims who "lost" "their" "homes" in the newspapers....better to go after those Welfare Queens having a night out at an Indian casino.
| 578 |
Fozzie Bear Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:00:15am |
re: #567 Aceofwhat?
Missing the point. That factory was going to close anyway, because if the same thing can be made for significantly less elsewhere, it will be.
So the only question left is, do you want the company to fold entirely and lose ALL of those jobs, or just the jobs that, at our current level of technology, probably don't deserve to be much higher than minimum wage anyway?
Speaking of these things as inevitable is silly, I think.
We do have the ability to tariff, restrict imports, etc. And a couple million minimum wage jobs would be might helpful right about now.
| 579 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:00:53am |
re: #577 reuven
Yeah...I'm relatively certain these folks went there to piss away their money. Fact is, a percentage people on welfare have "money problems" just like an alcoholic has "alcohol problems" and will abuse anything you give them. However, you can't be sure, and AFAIK, violated no agreement or law.
On the other hand that there's so much shenanigans going on wrt mortgage fraud and improper accounting for income from forgiven debt, etc yet it's too politically unpopular to touch. Our state can collect tens of millions of dollars if they just audited everyone with a 2nd mortage or HELOC who has either defaulted, or deducted the interest on their state return. All by just enforcing existing laws. But our legislature just won't be tough on people who can be propped up to look like victims who "lost" "their" "homes" in the newspapers...better to go after those Welfare Queens having a night out at an Indian casino.
What is that percentage?
| 580 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:02:06am |
My step brother is a douche.
Back to you regular scheduled program.
| 581 |
Donna Ballard Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:02:08am |
re: #561 darthstar
OMFGHZQ! Lady Gaga has more fans on facebook than President Obama. 9.1 million for him, 9.12 million for her. Who will get to 10 million first!
SOSHILLIZM!
Thats just soooo wrong!
| 582 |
MandyManners Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:02:22am |
re: #537 researchok
Good links.
As to the buffet idea, it seems to me that driving from CA to NV for a buffet only is well...not likely.
It isn't as if there are no buffets in CA
And, why are the tax-payers paying for them to eat at a buffet? Yes, I know that's churlish but, so be it.
| 583 |
Fozzie Bear Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:02:26am |
re: #576 darthstar
Sadly, I learned this from a three minute story on CNN just now.
Hahahahaha that just sort of highlights the point.
What's more absurd, that Lady Gaga is more popular than the leader of the free world on facebook, or that this is a news piece?
Oh man I think i'm going to start buying GOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLDDDDDD.
| 584 |
albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:03:02am |
re: #572 blueraven
When Kennedy reduced taxes the tax rate was very high. I don't know the exact rate but top was well over 50%. Certainly there is a time and place for reducing taxes.
In the midst of two wars when the tax rate wasn't overly burdensome, is not one of them.
it's the rate of taxes that bothers me, it's how the money is spent...the feds are Wastezilla...they blow through money with nothing to show for it but bloat...billions are wasted
| 585 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:03:49am |
re: #584 albusteve
it's the rate of taxes that bothers me, it's how the money is spent...the feds are Wastezilla...they blow through money with nothing to show for it but bloat...billions are wasted
See: Social Security.
| 586 |
Targetpractice Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:03:53am |
re: #576 darthstar
Sadly, I learned this from a three minute story on CNN just now.
In the words of Saint Savage, "Well there's your problem!"
| 587 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:04:23am |
re: #577 reuven
Yeah...I'm relatively certain these folks went there to piss away their money. Fact is, a percentage people on welfare have "money problems" just like an alcoholic has "alcohol problems" and will abuse anything you give them. However, you can't be sure, and AFAIK, violated no agreement or law.
[snip]
You know, that is such a stupid and board brushed bigoted statement I can only hope you said it to illicit a response and are not serious. Of course they have money problems... that's why they are on welfare.
What is the percentages that will abuse the money you give them? Where are your facts and figures to back up your statements, or did you just pull this out of your ass?
| 588 |
Donna Ballard Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:04:28am |
re: #584 albusteve
it's the rate of taxes that bothers me, it's how the money is spent...the feds are Wastezilla...they blow through money with nothing to show for it but bloat...billions are wasted
But...but... that's their job! Isn't it?///
| 590 |
researchok Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:05:10am |
re: #577 reuven
Yeah...I'm relatively certain these folks went there to piss away their money. Fact is, a percentage people on welfare have "money problems" just like an alcoholic has "alcohol problems" and will abuse anything you give them. However, you can't be sure, and AFAIK, violated no agreement or law.
On the other hand that there's so much shenanigans going on wrt mortgage fraud and improper accounting for income from forgiven debt, etc yet it's too politically unpopular to touch. Our state can collect tens of millions of dollars if they just audited everyone with a 2nd mortage or HELOC who has either defaulted, or deducted the interest on their state return. All by just enforcing existing laws. But our legislature just won't be tough on people who can be propped up to look like victims who "lost" "their" "homes" in the newspapers...better to go after those Welfare Queens having a night out at an Indian casino.
I don't know the numbers, but in fact there is a culture that emerges when entitlements become the order of the day. That's why Clinton's welfare reform really was a big deal- and one that worked to great degree
| 591 |
laZardo Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:05:16am |
re: #586 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
In the words of Saint Savage, "Well there's your problem!"
I once suggested the mass culling of Lady Gaga and Twilight fans as a way to reduce the effects of global warming. It'd easily snip a half-inch off sea level rise forecasts and at least 1.5 degrees Celsius from temperature increases.
| 592 |
Targetpractice Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:05:49am |
re: #591 laZardo
I once suggested the mass culling of Lady Gaga and Twilight fans as a way to reduce the effects of global warming. It'd easily snip a half-inch off sea level rise forecasts and at least 1.5 degrees Celsius from temperature increases.
...tell me more.
| 593 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:06:05am |
re: #590 researchok
I don't know the numbers, but in fact there is a culture that emerges when entitlements become the order of the day. That's why Clinton's welfare reform really was a big deal- and one that worked to great degree
It wasn't Clinton's.
| 594 |
Nimed Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:06:10am |
Is the Drudge Report still that important? I had the impression that Matt Drudge was getting his ass kicked by HuffPo.
| 595 |
ReamWorks SKG Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:06:20am |
re: #579 Walter L. Newton
I don't know the percentage. I can guarantee it's at least 1 person, if you can trust these news stories ( [Link: www.usatoday.com...] ) about poor people who came into a pile of money and still weren't able to manage.
I wasn't meaning to imply it was the majority of people on public assistance. I was referring to the fact that some fraction CA Welfare recipients apparently went to NV casinos, and the Governor is making a Big Deal over this, which I think is unwarranted.
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Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:07:02am |
re: #534 Fozzie Bear
Well, we are still at war. And the tax cuts, particularly for those making a fuckton of money, persist. And it pisses me off to hear people who support those cuts complain about the deficit.
(Not directed at you)
I understand that. But not all tax cuts are created equal. The cap gains cut was excellent. I think that 15% is just about right.
Bush also spent like a liberal. Tax cuts aren't so bad if you can pay for them by (a) proving the necessary elasticity to support them and (b) cutting spending to cover the loss of income if the cut isn't fully elastic. Bush definitely didn't do (b).
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:07:05am |
re: #591 laZardo
I once suggested the mass culling of Lady Gaga and Twilight fans as a way to reduce the effects of global warming. It'd easily snip a half-inch off sea level rise forecasts and at least 1.5 degrees Celsius from temperature increases.
And/or use them to plug the oil leak.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:07:10am |
re: #590 researchok
I don't know the numbers, but in fact there is a culture that emerges when entitlements become the order of the day. That's why Clinton's welfare reform really was a big deal- and one that worked to great degree
You don't know the numbers, Reuven don't state any numbers, but your go on and agree with his assessment? Right.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:09:02am |
re: #594 Nimed
Is the Drudge Report still that important? I had the impression that Matt Drudge was getting his ass kicked by HuffPo.
In the absence of real leadership Republicans treat Drudge, Beck and Limbaugh as leaders. Michael Steele at one point insulted Limbaugh and was forced to apologize.
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laZardo Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:09:11am |
re: #592 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
...tell me more.
It's not just the environment. Twilight fans specifically are the reason I'm so cynical about increased funding for education.
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Nimed Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:09:19am |
And speaking of HuffPo, the main titles right now are:
- ROLLING STONE REPORTER: MAJOR U.S. OFFENSIVE 'IN SERIOUS TROUBLE'
- Exclusive Interview: Troops Are GLAD That President Obama Sacked McChrystal..
- The Economist: 'The Real Worry Is That The War Is Being Lost'
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:09:26am |
re: #596 Aceofwhat?
I understand that. But not all tax cuts are created equal. The cap gains cut was excellent. I think that 15% is just about right.
Bush also spent like a liberal. Tax cuts aren't so bad if you can pay for them by (a) proving the necessary elasticity to support them and (b) cutting spending to cover the loss of income if the cut isn't fully elastic. Bush definitely didn't do (b).
and his spending did not come close to approaching the levels now with regard to the GNP...tripling the deficit right now was a very bad move and has nothing to do with GBs spending...there is little to compare
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ReamWorks SKG Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:09:53am |
re: #598 Walter L. Newton
Walter, I understand your point, but I think you sold me short! I was saying that the Governor was being foolish for trying to punish a small percentage of people for potentially "abusing" (but breaking no law) welfare benefits. I believe you and I might be on the same side of this issue.
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Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:10:11am |
re: #563 Fozzie Bear
I happen to agree with Weigel in his assessment of Drudge. If this really was in a private email, it's nobody's business, frankly.
Drudge is an asshole, and Weigel wasn't saying he was going to set Drudge on fire or something. But I have no love for Weigel. Still, I don't get how this is news. It's like high school gossip.
"OMG DID YOU HEAR WHAT DAVE SAID?!?!?!"
Because the more responsibility and visibility you have, the more professional you're expected to be. That little equation shouldn't be news to anyone in his position.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:10:15am |
re: #595 reuven
I don't know the percentage. I can guarantee it's at least 1 person, if you can trust these news stories ( [Link: www.usatoday.com...] ) about poor people who came into a pile of money and still weren't able to manage.
I wasn't meaning to imply it was the majority of people on public assistance. I was referring to the fact that some fraction CA Welfare recipients apparently went to NV casinos, and the Governor is making a Big Deal over this, which I think is unwarranted.
Stop the fucking tap dancing... you tied TWO thought together... "Yeah...I'm relatively certain these folks went there to piss away their money." AND Fact is, a percentage people on welfare have "money problems" "
And then you turn around and tell me you don't know the percentage... you said "Fact is..." Ok... is it fact, do you know the facts, do you know the percentages, or do you like to broad brush groups of people all the time?
"I wasn't meaning to imply.." well, guess what, ya did. Bullshit.
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lawhawk Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:10:18am |
Wiegel got in trouble for his postings at Journolist, which has been covered by LGF in the past as a hotbed for infantile behavior and postings by journalists before. It truly does act like a high school clique. Just search for Journolist in LGF and you'll see that it's been referred to in more than a few instances for juvenile behavior among our supposed journalistic betters.
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:10:30am |
re: #599 Killgore Trout
In the absence of real leadership Republicans treat Drudge, Beck and Limbaugh as leaders. Michael Steele at one point insulted Limbaugh and was forced to apologize.
forced my ass...Steele is gutless, it's just a job with flexible principles...he sucks
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Donna Ballard Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:11:05am |
Headaches blooming and fevers spiking, time to go lay down me thinks. See ya all later. Keep Laughing everyone!
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:11:09am |
re: #600 laZardo
It's not just the environment. Twilight fans specifically are the reason I'm so cynical about increased funding for education.
...*twitch, twitch*
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:11:55am |
re: #606 lawhawk
Wiegel got in trouble for his postings at Journolist, which has been covered by LGF in the past as a hotbed for infantile behavior and postings by journalists before. It truly does act like a high school clique. Just search for Journolist in LGF and you'll see that it's been referred to in more than a few instances for juvenile behavior among our supposed journalistic betters.
Stop that... things have changed now.
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laZardo Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:12:17am |
re: #609 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
...*twitch, twitch*
The perfect vaccine against Twilight? Wesley Fucking Snipes.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:12:17am |
"No one will know until this is actually in place how it works. But we believe we've done something that has been needed for a long time. It took a crisis to bring us to the point where we could actually get this job done."
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
Uh, OK.
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abolitionist Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:12:21am |
re: #519 albusteve
there is no 'View'...all there is, is the net addy box then Yahoos search box followed by six icons beneath it...no view, or edit, or tools ect...how can that be...sorry to be a pest
In Firefox, I managed to make my menu bar go away by unchecking it. (View -> Toolbars - Menu Bar - uncheck) Then I found a way to get it back. Try putting cursor just a mm or so to left of the active part of your address bar or search bar, and right click. In the resulting dropdown menu, click next to the Menu Bar item to enable that item. That brought back my menu bar ( File Edit View History Bookmarks Tools Help ).
re: #524 Fozzie Bear
Press F10.
Your menus will appear
Much simpler. Thanks.
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Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:12:46am |
re: #578 Fozzie Bear
Speaking of these things as inevitable is silly, I think.
We do have the ability to tariff, restrict imports, etc. And a couple million minimum wage jobs would be might helpful right about now.
Few items are as uncontroversial amongst economists of different stripes and political leanings as the well-proven fundamental principle that protectionism (i.e. the opposite of free trade) hurts everyone.
I need to warn you, in as friendly and helpful a manner as possible, that what you are advocating here is about as well-accepted as the Austrian school of economics.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:12:47am |
re: #563 Fozzie Bear
I happen to agree with Weigel in his assessment of Drudge. If this really was in a private email, it's nobody's business, frankly.
Drudge is an asshole, and Weigel wasn't saying he was going to set Drudge on fire or something. But I have no love for Weigel. Still, I don't get how this is news. It's like high school gossip.
"OMG DID YOU HEAR WHAT DAVE SAID?!?!?!"
Private Email: There's an oxymoron.
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:12:52am |
re: #608 Dragon_Lady
Headaches blooming and fevers spiking, time to go lay down me thinks. See ya all later. Keep Laughing everyone!
Get better soon, DL.
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Nimed Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:12:58am |
re: #599 Killgore Trout
In the absence of real leadership Republicans treat Drudge, Beck and Limbaugh as leaders. Michael Steele at one point insulted Limbaugh and was forced to apologize.
:) Right, I remember that series of apologies. Steele and two other GOP officials IIRC. But I had the impression that Drudge was losing steam to both HuffPo and Breitbart, and he and Beck weren't at the same level as King Limbaugh.
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researchok Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:13:32am |
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:13:40am |
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:13:42am |
re: #600 laZardo
It's not just the environment. Twilight fans specifically are the reason I'm so cynical about increased funding for education.
all the billions we have thrown at public ed has done little good and in many cases have been harmful...our students are too stupid and we should take a hard honest look at the DofEd money pit..of course that will never happen
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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:14:33am |
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Four More Tears Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:14:37am |
re: #611 laZardo
The perfect vaccine against Twilight? Wesley Fucking Snipes.
This is how it really ends.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:15:10am |
re: #618 researchok
How so?
It was a Republican Congress run by Newt. Took 4 times (IIRC) before clinton signed it.
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ReamWorks SKG Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:15:36am |
re: #605 Walter L. Newton
Yes, Walter, but that was after suggesting there are plenty of reasons to spend money in a Casino. I've gone to Indian Casinos for (bargain) meals and shows and did no gambling. That being said, of the fraction of welfare recipients that Schwarzenegger is singling out for spending money in casinos, I'm going to speculate (and you may disagree) that these people weren't making the most efficient use of their money and/or may have gambling problems. And as I said each time, it's a silly stunt for our Governor to try to legislate this behavior away by making folks sign vague "agreements" as a condition of welfare.
I am amused that you and I may reach the same conclusion, but my thought process may be less charitable than yours. So be it.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:15:39am |
re: #600 laZardo
It's not just the environment. Twilight fans specifically are the reason I'm so cynical about increased funding for education.
Thars sum big words in dat book...
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Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:15:45am |
re: #571 Killgore Trout
He went a little over the top but I personally don't find his opinions to be that outrageous.
I have never used "ratfucking" or any similarly immature term to describe anything or anyone related to my job or company, even in a personal email.
It's not that i fear my personal email will be discovered. I simply don't behave that way.
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:15:48am |
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Four More Tears Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:16:44am |
re: #623 Cannadian Club Akbar
It was a Republican Congress run by Newt. Took 4 times (IIRC) before clinton signed it.
I love how in this same thread the Democrats are held responsible for NCLB, signed by Bush.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:16:54am |
re: #617 Nimed
:) Right, I remember that series of apologies. Steele and two other GOP officials IIRC. But I had the impression that Drudge was losing steam to both HuffPo and Breitbart, and he and Beck weren't at the same level as King Limbaugh.
I'm not sure about the web rankings but Breitbart's sites give off a lot less traffic than you'd think. Recently, Big Journalism linked to the LGF article on the Reuters cropping scandal. I don't think LGF got more than 1,000 referrals. I pretty sure a Drudge link would crash the LGF servers in 10 minutes.
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researchok Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:17:19am |
re: #598 Walter L. Newton
You don't know the numbers, Reuven don't state any numbers, but your go on and agree with his assessment? Right.
What are you talking about?
Welfare reform has been addressed by both parties for a long time.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:18:17am |
re: #626 Aceofwhat?
I have never used "ratfucking" or any similarly immature term to describe anything or anyone related to my job or company, even in a personal email.
It's not that i fear my personal email will be discovered. I simply don't behave that way.
Ratfucking is a political term.
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Nimed Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:18:20am |
re: #615 rwdflynavy
Private Email: There's an oxymoron.
Especially if said private email is sent to a mailing list that has 30 other members.
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Four More Tears Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:18:22am |
re: #631 Cannadian Club Akbar
Didn't see that. How's mom?
Surgery on the pelvis is today. In fact, I should probably getting out of here.
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Fozzie Bear Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:18:43am |
re: #599 Killgore Trout
In the absence of real leadership Republicans treat Drudge, Beck and Limbaugh as leaders. Michael Steele at one point insulted Limbaugh and was forced to apologize.
Jesus somebody find the GOP a few REAL FUCKING LEADERS, stat!
Where did they go? They used to have some, but wtf happened?
| 636 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:19:23am |
re: #634 JasonA
Surgery on the pelvis is today. In fact, I should probably getting out of here.
Give her a kiss. My mom is 12 hours away.
| 637 |
laZardo Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:19:34am |
re: #635 Fozzie Bear
Jesus somebody find the GOP a few REAL FUCKING LEADERS, stat!
Where did they go? They used to have some, but wtf happened?
I am actually still registered as a Republican.
I'm sorry.
| 638 |
Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:19:36am |
re: #590 researchok
I don't know the numbers, but in fact there is a culture that emerges when entitlements become the order of the day. That's why Clinton's welfare reform really was a big deal- and one that worked to great degree
damn straight
| 639 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:20:04am |
re: #635 Fozzie Bear
Jesus somebody find the GOP a few REAL FUCKING LEADERS, stat!
Where did they go? They used to have some, but wtf happened?
They're in hiding. The crazy conservative base wouldn't tolerate real practical leadership at this point. It'd be political suicide.
| 640 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:20:04am |
re: #624 reuven
Yes, Walter, but that was after suggesting there are plenty of reasons to spend money in a Casino. I've gone to Indian Casinos for (bargain) meals and shows and did no gambling. That being said, of the fraction of welfare recipients that Schwarzenegger is singling out for spending money in casinos, I'm going to speculate (and you may disagree) that these people weren't making the most efficient use of their money and/or may have gambling problems. And as I said each time, it's a silly stunt for our Governor to try to legislate this behavior away by making folks sign vague "agreements" as a condition of welfare.
I am amused that you and I may reach the same conclusion, but my thought process may be less charitable than yours. So be it.
First of all, those kind of stories are anecdotal to start with, and it's a cheap shot on anyone's part to use that as some sort of foundation for a meme such as welfare people don't make good use of their money.
That's National Inquirer level reportage, and I've seen numerous stories of all kinds of people, people on welfare, people with money, multiple winners blowing wads twice and so on... I would even be suspect of how almost anyone, giving a large enough sum of anything, would go about handling something.
And don't insult me... I'm not charitable... I'm a right winger :)
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researchok Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:20:34am |
re: #635 Fozzie Bear
Jesus somebody find the GOP a few REAL FUCKING LEADERS, stat!
Where did they go? They used to have some, but wtf happened?
There aren't any real leaders anywhere in any party.
| 642 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:20:46am |
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Nimed Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:20:56am |
| 644 |
Targetpractice Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:21:17am |
re: #635 Fozzie Bear
Jesus somebody find the GOP a few REAL FUCKING LEADERS, stat!
Where did they go? They used to have some, but wtf happened?
Those not scared of the loonies in their party are scared shitless of poking their heads out and giving the Dems an easy target.
| 645 |
Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:22:08am |
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Fozzie Bear Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:22:31am |
re: #604 Aceofwhat?
Because the more responsibility and visibility you have, the more professional you're expected to be. That little equation shouldn't be news to anyone in his position.
True, but if this was a private email, it's, a non-issue.
Somebody owes Weigel an apology for publishing private correspondence, imo. I have found myself fuming at Weigel's breathtaking intellectual dishonesty more than a few times, but this isn't news. This is railroading a man in an attempt to destroy his career.
| 647 |
laZardo Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:22:44am |
re: #642 Walter L. Newton
So is teabagging.
I thought that was a gaming term.
Though recently we've had to rename that Victory Squats and Freedom Crouches.
| 648 |
researchok Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:22:51am |
| 649 |
Four More Tears Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:23:13am |
re: #643 Nimed
I would go see that movie. Well, short film.
Twipires don't even have fangs. How sad for them...
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Four More Tears Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:23:37am |
re: #647 laZardo
I thought that was a gaming term.
Though recently we've had to rename that Victory Squats and Freedom Crouches.
Do you play Halo?
| 651 |
Nimed Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:23:46am |
re: #635 Fozzie Bear
Jesus somebody find the GOP a few REAL FUCKING LEADERS, stat!
Where did they go? They used to have some, but wtf happened?
What are you talking about? They have Chris Christie and Bobby Jindal and... Chris Christie.
| 652 |
karmic_inquisitor Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:24:07am |
FWIW -
I commented the other day on McChrystal being an f'up.
Patreaus has now modified the McChrystal Rules Of Engagement which is great news. I am very glad that Obama removed McChrystal and came around to seeing counter insurgency from Patreaus' perspective. The sneaky-pete/ secret war/ leave the grunts exposed and uninformed was a loser strategy from the moment McChrystal assumed command. Yet I am sure the idea of a discrete/shoot to kill/take no prisoners war attracting little public attention (and requiring no interrogations since you simply kill anyone you suspect of anything) conducted exclusively by special ops appealed to Obama as a way to get Afghanistan done without it entering the public consciousness. I am very glad that Obama is capable of adapting and engaging what has proven to work even though he himself has condemned Patreaus' ways in the past. Now if he can get his brain-dead VP to STFU and get Richard Holbrooke to keep his ego on simmer we might actually make progress there.
| 653 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:24:53am |
re: #648 researchok
He didn't pass it, he signed it.
| 654 |
Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:25:06am |
re: #646 Fozzie Bear
True, but if this was a private email, it's, a non-issue.
I'll bite. If it's a non-issue, why would they fire him?
| 655 |
albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:25:10am |
re: #638 Aceofwhat?
damn straight
it's misleading to call it Clinton's reform...I think he and most dems opposed it
| 656 |
researchok Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:25:27am |
re: #651 Nimed
What are you talking about? They have Chris Christie and Bobby Jindal and... Chris Christie.
Chris Christie is still an up and comer (I really like the guy)
Jindal is a nutcase. Nice guy, but a nut case. He claims to have participated in an exorcism.
| 657 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:25:43am |
re: #646 Fozzie Bear
True, but if this was a private email, it's, a non-issue.
Somebody owes Weigel an apology for publishing private correspondence, imo. I have found myself fuming at Weigel's breathtaking intellectual dishonesty more than a few times, but this isn't news. This is railroading a man in an attempt to destroy his career.
Here is what Charles had to say about that "secret" email list and the contents of it...
"These are the captains of media, throwing around insults like a bunch of high school kids, where they think they won’t get caught at it."
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
| 658 |
laZardo Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:25:46am |
re: #650 JasonA
Do you play Halo?
No, I have a PS3. ;_; Mainly because they don't have XBox Live in my country and because they tend to sell 360s modded as standard which leads to hardware bans.
I have learned the art through other games though. :D Even scored a few ragemails.
| 659 |
darthstar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:25:46am |
re: #635 Fozzie Bear
Jesus somebody find the GOP a few REAL FUCKING LEADERS, stat!
Where did they go? They used to have some, but wtf happened?
He died in 2004.
| 660 |
Four More Tears Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:26:40am |
re: #658 laZardo
No, I have a PS3. ;_; Mainly because they don't have XBox Live in my country and because they tend to sell 360s modded as standard which leads to hardware bans.
I have learned the art through other games though. :D Even scored a few ragemails.
You need to find a better country. :P
/
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Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:26:50am |
re: #655 albusteve
it's misleading to call it Clinton's reform...I think he and most dems opposed it
They did. But i'm consistent in allowing the President's signature to convey some responsibility for a bill, be it positive or negative, no matter who is in office.
| 662 |
ReamWorks SKG Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:26:56am |
re: #640 Walter L. Newton
First of all, those kind of stories are anecdotal to start with, and it's a cheap shot on anyone's part to use that as some sort of foundation for a meme such as welfare people don't make good use of their money.
This I agree with. I keep forgetting that LGF has higher intellectual standards than most discussion forums, and I need to keep on my toes.
| 663 |
researchok Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:27:44am |
re: #653 Cannadian Club Akbar
He didn't pass it, he signed it.
Fair enough. But he didn't shy away from the problem. He made the issue front and center.
| 664 |
albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:28:05am |
re: #652 karmic_inquisitor
FWIW -
I commented the other day on McChrystal being an f'up.
Patreaus has now modified the McChrystal Rules Of Engagement which is great news. I am very glad that Obama removed McChrystal and came around to seeing counter insurgency from Patreaus' perspective. The sneaky-pete/ secret war/ leave the grunts exposed and uninformed was a loser strategy from the moment McChrystal assumed command. Yet I am sure the idea of a discrete/shoot to kill/take no prisoners war attracting little public attention (and requiring no interrogations since you simply kill anyone you suspect of anything) conducted exclusively by special ops appealed to Obama as a way to get Afghanistan done without it entering the public consciousness. I am very glad that Obama is capable of adapting and engaging what has proven to work even though he himself has condemned Patreaus' ways in the past. Now if he can get his brain-dead VP to STFU and get Richard Holbrooke to keep his ego on simmer we might actually make progress there.
exactly...the executive team has never been on the same page, from what I hear...all BOs choices
| 665 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:28:12am |
Dave Weigel just got fired ("resigned") from the Washington Post, after writing a series of emails to a listserv bashing conservatives and rooting for Democrats.
| 666 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:28:33am |
re: #662 reuven
First of all, those kind of stories are anecdotal to start with, and it's a cheap shot on anyone's part to use that as some sort of foundation for a meme such as welfare people don't make good use of their money.
This I agree with. I keep forgetting that LGF has higher intellectual standards than most discussion forums, and I need to keep on my toes.
Please... don't include me in that assessment... I have a reputation to uphold here... or down hold... what ever :)
| 667 |
researchok Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:28:39am |
re: #661 Aceofwhat?
They did. But i'm consistent in allowing the President's signature to convey some responsibility for a bill, be it positive or negative, no matter who is in office.
Nuanced- and true.
| 669 |
Kragar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:28:48am |
re: #649 JasonA
Twipires don't even have fangs. How sad for them...
/facepalm
Give me a Wamphyri any day.
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:29:06am |
re: #661 Aceofwhat?
They did. But i'm consistent in allowing the President's signature to convey some responsibility for a bill, be it positive or negative, no matter who is in office.
true enough...just posted for clarity
| 671 |
karmic_inquisitor Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:29:23am |
re: #606 lawhawk
Wiegel got in trouble for his postings at Journolist, which has been covered by LGF in the past as a hotbed for infantile behavior and postings by journalists before. It truly does act like a high school clique. Just search for Journolist in LGF and you'll see that it's been referred to in more than a few instances for juvenile behavior among our supposed journalistic betters.
The real issue, IMO, was that Wiegel was supposedly covering the side that he deplored. The guy was basically dishonest, as is the whole idea of JournoList, IMO.
Nothing wrong with having a point of view - just make it known. Especially when it is the polar opposite of the point of view you are supposedly presenting to readers.
| 672 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:29:40am |
re: #663 researchok
Fair enough. But he didn't shy away from the problem. He made the issue front and center.
GAH!! I got booted!! Agreed.
| 673 |
Four More Tears Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:29:48am |
re: #669 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
/facepalm
Give me a Wamphyri any day.
Dude... Twilight vampires, when in direct sunlight... sparkle. They fucking sparkle!
| 674 |
Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:29:49am |
re: #666 Walter L. Newton
landing the post of the Beast will help get your rep back where it belongs//
| 675 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:30:52am |
re: #671 karmic_inquisitor
The real issue, IMO, was that Wiegel was supposedly covering the side that he deplored. The guy was basically dishonest, as is the whole idea of JournoList, IMO.
Nothing wrong with having a point of view - just make it known. Especially when it is the polar opposite of the point of view you are supposedly presenting to readers.
Helen Thomas Syndrome.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:31:08am |
re: #646 Fozzie Bear
True, but if this was a private email, it's, a non-issue.
Somebody owes Weigel an apology for publishing private correspondence, imo. I have found myself fuming at Weigel's breathtaking intellectual dishonesty more than a few times, but this isn't news. This is railroading a man in an attempt to destroy his career.
I think when you take a job at a media source like the Washington Post, you have a responsibility to keep any partisan political views to yourself.
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laZardo Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:31:28am |
re: #674 Aceofwhat?
landing the post of the Beast will help get your rep back where it belongs//
Which makes Charles the Neighbor of the Beast?
/they jam on Thursdays.
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researchok Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:31:39am |
re: #665 Charles
Dave Weigel just got fired ("resigned") from the Washington Post, after writing a series of emails to a listserv bashing conservatives and rooting for Democrats.
I think it was his half assed apology that did him in. he made it all about him.
All he had to do was say 'I was wrong, I screwed up, etc.' Instead, he essentially reiterated, 'I meant what I said, but I'm sorry because this has become a big deal'.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:31:44am |
re: #674 Aceofwhat?
landing the post of the Beast will help get your rep back where it belongs//
Researchok had the next store neighbor number of the beast 667.
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Kragar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:32:12am |
re: #673 JasonA
Dude... Twilight vampires, when in direct sunlight... sparkle. They fucking sparkle!
I know, from word of mouth. I refuse to watch the movies or read the books.
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researchok Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:34:29am |
re: #679 Walter L. Newton
Researchok had the next store neighbor number of the beast 667.
That was to you, Walter.
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Nimed Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:34:59am |
re: #673 JasonA
Dude... Twilight vampires, when in direct sunlight... sparkle. They fucking sparkle!
Yeah. And the "good vampires" sexually abuse minors. The main love story is a relationship between an High School girl and an 100 year old dude. Creepy...
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:35:07am |
re: #646 Fozzie Bear
True, but if this was a private email, it's, a non-issue.
Somebody owes Weigel an apology for publishing private correspondence, imo. I have found myself fuming at Weigel's breathtaking intellectual dishonesty more than a few times, but this isn't news. This is railroading a man in an attempt to destroy his career.
I posted some insults about my boss on my *private* blog and I got fired!!!
//
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:35:44am |
re: #683 Nimed
Yeah. And the "good vampires" sexually abuse minors. The main love story is a relationship between an High School girl and an 100 year old dude. Creepy...
Not if you are the 100 year old dude...
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Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:35:44am |
re: #679 Walter L. Newton
Researchok had the next store neighbor number of the beast 667.
location, location, location...
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laZardo Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:36:20am |
re: #680 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I know, from word of mouth. I refuse to watch the movies or read the books.
You are a man among men and I salute you.
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Nimed Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:36:27am |
re: #676 Charles
I think when you take a job at a media source like the Washington Post, you have a responsibility to keep any partisan political views to yourself.
The irony is that he defended Rand Paul not long ago.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:36:41am |
re: #665 Charles
Dave Weigel just got fired ("resigned") from the Washington Post, after writing a series of emails to a listserv bashing conservatives and rooting for Democrats.
Wait a second... aside from the comment about Drudge... here are the three other email leaks that were posted (I don't know if we normally give the source any traffic, so I will refrain from linking, you can find them if needed)...
•"Follow-up to one hell of a day: Apparently, the Washington Examiner thought it would be fun to write up an item about my dancing at the wedding of Megan McArdle and Peter Suderman. Said item included the name and job of my girlfriend, who was not even there -- nor in DC at all."
•"I'd politely encourage everyone to think twice about rewarding the Examiner with any traffic or links for a while. I know the temptation is high to follow up hot hot Byron York scoops, but please resist it."
•"It's all very amusing to me. Two hundred screaming Ron Paul fanatics couldn't get their man into the Fox News New Hampshire GOP debate, but Fox News is pumping around the clock to get Paultard Tea Party people on TV."
Is that it... that's the outrage... come on... is there more I haven't seen yet?
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albusteve Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:37:03am |
One of Britain’s largest trade unions passed a motion at its annual conference in Bournemouth last week accusing Israel of lying over the Gaza flotilla incident and has called for a complete boycott of Israel and for the expulsion of the Israeli ambassador, it was confirmed on Thursday.
It said Israel was “brazenly lying” over the flotilla incident, as it “attempted to define it as an attempted lynch mob of its troops by passengers on the boats. “This is a further sign that Israel does not respond to words of condemnation, only action will have any effect,” the motion states.
good god the stupidity...shit like this eventually gets people killed...totally irresponsible
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
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Kragar Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:37:45am |
re: #687 laZardo
You are a man among men and I salute you.
A vampire should be an undead killing machine, spreading death and chaos in its wake, not an emo putz with a skin condition.
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Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:37:51am |
re: #685 Cannadian Club Akbar
Not if you are the 100 year old dude...
Yep. The only thing stopping 100-yr old dudes from hitting on teens left and right is the inconvenient fact that they look like 100-yr old dudes.
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laZardo Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:38:12am |
re: #683 Nimed
Yeah. And the "good vampires" sexually abuse minors. The main love story is a relationship between an High School girl and an 100 year old dude. Creepy...
I liked the part where Edward dies.
/extra karma if you get the reference.
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researchok Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:38:46am |
re: #689 Walter L. Newton
Wait a second... aside from the comment about Drudge... here are the three other email leaks that were posted (I don't know if we normally give the source any traffic, so I will refrain from linking, you can find them if needed)...
•"Follow-up to one hell of a day: Apparently, the Washington Examiner thought it would be fun to write up an item about my dancing at the wedding of Megan McArdle and Peter Suderman. Said item included the name and job of my girlfriend, who was not even there -- nor in DC at all."
•"I'd politely encourage everyone to think twice about rewarding the Examiner with any traffic or links for a while. I know the temptation is high to follow up hot hot Byron York scoops, but please resist it."
•"It's all very amusing to me. Two hundred screaming Ron Paul fanatics couldn't get their man into the Fox News New Hampshire GOP debate, but Fox News is pumping around the clock to get Paultard Tea Party people on TV."
Is that it... that's the outrage... come on... is there more I haven't seen yet?
There were other comments, apparently.
He cherry picked those remarks to make himself look more benign.
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karmic_inquisitor Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:39:00am |
re: #689 Walter L. Newton
There are raw emails at DailyCaller that are far more offensive. Probelem is that they are Drudged right now and the server gerbils can't keep up. They need to upgrade to lizardoid hamster technology.
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simoom Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:40:46am |
re: #529 Killgore Trout
This Weigel quote jumped out at me:
It's all very amusing to me. Two hundred screaming Ron Paul fanatics couldn't get their man into the Fox News New Hampshire GOP debate, but Fox News is pumping around the clock to get Paultard Tea Party people on TV.
I've had the same thought a number of times. During the '08 primary Fox did everything in their power to discredit and exclude Ron Paul. One example was that every time he'd win one of their post debate phone-in "polls" they'd spin like crazy as to how the Paul-folks cheated, or any number of excuses to downplay the result. There is some irony in Fox sponsoring, recruiting for and promoting the movement the Paul-folks started (though, of course, they're now in the minority). While Fox now allows Ron Paul on their shows with some frequency, they still try and dismiss any news that is favorable to Paul in his quest for the Presidency (like the CPAC straw poll).
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Fozzie Bear Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:49:54am |
re: #654 Aceofwhat?
I'll bite. If it's a non-issue, why would they fire him?
Because they are pussies who can't say "what our employees say in private correspondence is no business of this institution."
Look, I'd love to see Weigel fired for alot of reasons. But this isn't the way to do it.
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Fozzie Bear Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:51:24am |
re: #657 Walter L. Newton
Here is what Charles had to say about that "secret" email list and the contents of it...
"These are the captains of media, throwing around insults like a bunch of high school kids, where they think they won’t get caught at it."
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Then I suppose it wasn't as "private" as indicated in the articles I saw. I recant my defense of Weigtel. Fuck 'em.
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Fozzie Bear Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:53:28am |
re: #676 Charles
I think when you take a job at a media source like the Washington Post, you have a responsibility to keep any partisan political views to yourself.
Since when? That went out the window years ago.
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Aceofwhat? Fri, Jun 25, 2010 10:54:46am |
re: #699 Fozzie Bear
Then I suppose it wasn't as "private" as indicated in the articles I saw. I recant my defense of Weigtel. Fuck 'em.
xactly.
But as to your other post, if you embarrass the institution, it's the business of the institution. Don't like the rules? Go be a janitor.
Some of us are happy to hold ourselves to a higher standard of conduct as part and parcel of greater responsibility. Apologizing for someone who can't do the same strikes me as a strange position to take.
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