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1 b_sharp  Sat, Jun 26, 2010 10:36:37pm

Just so I can say I was here.

Goodnight.

2 Soap_Man  Sat, Jun 26, 2010 10:38:02pm

What I’m listening to right now:

I love you I’ve a drowning grip on your adoring face
I love you my responsibility has found a place
Beside you and strong warnings in the guise of gentle words
Come wave upon me from the wider family net absurd
“You’ll take care of her, I know it, you will do a better job”
Maybe, but not what she deserves

Props to whoever knows what this is.

3 bratwurst  Sat, Jun 26, 2010 10:48:48pm

I Can Be A Prog Frog

Youtube Video

Sweet dreams!

4 Bagua  Sat, Jun 26, 2010 10:53:31pm

Hot Wuk
Youtube Video
- Mr Vegas

5 Sacred Plants  Sat, Jun 26, 2010 10:58:14pm
6 mich-again  Sat, Jun 26, 2010 11:00:42pm

A quote from Ozzy? Crazy. But, thats how it goes.

7 Bubblehead II  Sat, Jun 26, 2010 11:02:04pm

If it’s too loud, then you’re too old. hearing aid is turned up to much.

Morning.

8 Irenicum  Sat, Jun 26, 2010 11:04:20pm

It’s always too loud. But then again I have good hearing.

9 Irenicum  Sat, Jun 26, 2010 11:15:28pm

Fireworks in the distance
illustrating a freedom borne
by those beyond our seas
yet fighting for a freedom seen
from a distance, yet known at home.

A distant blast heard
is a reminder of a blast
not heard too close
because of that sacrifice
held close, yet so far away.

(A short if incomplete poem elicited by fireworks in the distance)

G’nite gang.

10 Bubblehead II  Sat, Jun 26, 2010 11:41:40pm

To w*rk I must go.

Night All.

11 ryannon  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 12:03:01am

“The spectacle is not a collection of images,” Debord writes. “rather, it is a social relationship between people that is mediated by images.”

- Guy Debord, The Society of the Spectacle

12 ryannon  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 12:03:55am

re: #9 Irenicum

Are you still here?

13 ryannon  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 12:07:52am

re: #12 ryannon

Are you still here?

Me neither.

14 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 12:12:21am

Are you talking about vuvuzelas?

15 swamprat  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 12:49:57am

someone doesn’t know how to spell “ruse”.

He is being rieu d:

15Comment rated by: rieux

Posted by: Obdicut in article: This Moment of Pure Bigotry Brought to You By Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller

Downdinged like 10 posts by Obdicut on a dead thread.

Charles, you might want to cut dinging when you cut comments on a thread that goes stale.

16 swamprat  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 12:54:54am

Hey rieux! What’s the deal? Didn’t know you were here. I think Obdicut is getting married. Might be a while until we see him.

17 freetoken  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 1:28:46am
18 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 1:32:56am

Sometimes love is sweet as kalbi (a beef delicacy)

Youtube Video

19 freetoken  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 1:38:07am

re: #18 ralphieboy

“with the qualities of a pheasant” - heh

20 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 1:43:15am

But sometimes love is as hard as a certain kind of stone for building houses…

21 freetoken  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 1:51:29am
22 freetoken  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 2:02:36am

One more from Japan, from 1969. Pretty enough song, though what’s strikes me here is how clear the male singer is… in case you haven’t noticed, male Japanese speakers tend to be quite different from females, both in the nature of what is said but also in the sounds. The common male sounds tend to be quite muffled and I have a very difficult time catching their syllables…

Anyway, making a long story short, here is a male singer with very clean articulation (for my listening comprehension practice.) Also, he walks out with a guitar but doesn’t really make use of it - a prop? Finally, I’m fascinated by the fashion statement of the mike stand - I’ve seen similar in some other Japanese videos from decades ago, but I’m not sure what to make of it.

Youtube Video

23 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 2:26:28am

He truly has the qualities of a pheasant, a voice sweet as kalbi (a beef delicacy) and features as hard as a certain kind of stone for building houses.

24 sngnsgt  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 3:12:16am
If it’s too loud, then you’re too old.

LOL! This is what I said to my old man this evening when my younger brother and I were playing a gig at a redneck bar tonight. I played bass and my brother played guitar. Dear ol’ Dad was a Singing Sergeant for 11 years in D.C. with the AF Band. He’s retired and old yes, it was too loud for him, he left after the first set. He was glad to see his kids who were raised around music were playing out after all those years of noise in the basement. Thanks for the years of music Dad, your kids are carrying on the family tradition, enjoy your retirement.

25 The Curmudgeon  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 3:20:32am

How is it possible that I’m awake and it’s dawn, yet it’s still the start of this “overnight” thread? What hemisphere does Charles live in?

26 sngnsgt  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 3:31:08am

re: #25 The Curmudgeon

How is it possible that I’m awake and it’s dawn, yet it’s still the start of this “overnight” thread? What hemisphere does Charles live in?

Charles must be multi-hemispherical, the Lizard Master never sleeps.

27 rwdflynavy  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 3:37:19am

re: #26 sngnsgt

Charles must be multi-hemispherical, the Lizard Master never sleeps.

When you live in a semi-secret lair 1/2 mile below Denver Airport, it is always overnight.

28 RogueOne  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 4:00:58am

Morning all. My in-laws are still asleep so I appreciate you all keeping it down.

29 rwdflynavy  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 4:09:32am

Mornin Rogue!

30 RogueOne  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 4:19:19am

re: #29 rwdflynavy

How’s the new job?

31 rwdflynavy  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 4:20:28am

re: #30 RogueOne

How’s the new job?

It’s OK, I work with good folks and have 2 sharp guys working for me. The hours are reasonable for DC. Can’t ask for much more than that.

PS:I’d rather be flying helicopters…

32 Semper Fi  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 4:21:59am

Good morning all,
Couldn’t sleep. Maybe I went beddy too early last night, or, many things to clear away before driving to Sou Cal early monday. “Dances With Wolves” is on tv but I know the dialogue from memory. Nevertheless, enjoy the scenery.
Couple nights ago saw a movie starring Bjork. What talent. I don’t understand how some people can be so abundantly endowed with talent and I have none. Doesn’t seem fair.

33 RogueOne  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 4:26:59am

re: #31 rwdflynavy

It’s OK, I work with good folks and have 2 sharp guys working for me. The hours are reasonable for DC. Can’t ask for much more than that.

PS:I’d rather be flying helicopters…

What made you decide to accept a desk job? More time for family?

34 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 4:30:31am

re: #24 sngnsgt

The dude must have a helluva set of pipes. SINGING SERGEANTS ain’t your run of the mill singers.

My vocal mentor in High School was a former Singing Sergeant. Man had a voice that could pin you against the back wall of an auditorium.

35 RogueOne  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 4:32:11am

I keep getting told we’re getting all our bailout money back “with interest!”. If that’s true then why is this necessary?

Obama calls for bank tax as next step in reform
reuters.com


Obama wants to slap a 0.15 percent tax on the liabilities of the biggest U.S. financial institutions to recoup the costs to taxpayers of the financial bailout.

“We need to impose a fee on the banks that were the biggest beneficiaries of taxpayer assistance at the height of our financial crisis — so we can recover every dime of taxpayer money,” Obama said in his weekly radio and Internet address.

I guess making sure free checking went the way of the dinosaurs wasn’t a good enough way to stick it to taxpayers in an election year so lets go ahead and raise more taxes that will be paid by everyone but banking institutions. Good plan. Man am I glad we elected a brainiac.

36 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 4:38:55am
37 Taqyia2Me  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 4:42:06am

re: #35 RogueOne

Well, somebody has to do something to keep the political elite and their bootlickers in wagyu beef!

38 Semper Fi  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 4:42:14am

re: #36 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Don’t be a “smart ass”.

Joe Biden has a real knack for off the cuff gaffs.

39 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 4:47:54am

re: #38 Semper Fi

It appears he was asking the man to be more cooperative in the photo-op.

Asking a politician to lower taxes is as Murikan as Apple Pie.

Having a politician ignore your request is just as Universal.

40 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 4:49:11am

LOWER MY TAXES WITHOUT HURTING ANY PROGRAMS!11!!
XD

41 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 4:53:19am

re: #40 Varek Raith

LOWER MY TAXES AND GUT A BUNCH OF PROGRAMS!11!!1

42 RogueOne  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 4:55:04am

I keep saying that political discourse is no worse today than it has ever been. It’s always been rough and in just our history it’s been much, much rougher. Good story in the WSJ highlighting that fact:

online.wsj.com


For sheer verbal savagery, the founding era may have surpassed anything seen today. Despite their erudition, integrity, and philosophical genius, the founders were fiery men who expressed their beliefs with unusual vehemence. They inhabited a combative world in which the rabble-rousing Thomas Paine, an early admirer of George Washington, could denounce the first president in an open letter as “treacherous in private friendship…and a hypocrite in public life.” Paine even wondered aloud whether Washington was “an apostate or an imposter; whether you have abandoned good principles, or whether you ever had any.”
…..
Although not parties in the modern sense, these embryonic factions—Hamiltonian Federalists and Jeffersonian Republicans—generated intense loyalty among adherents. Both sides trafficked in a conspiratorial view of politics, with Federalists accusing the Republicans of trying to import the French Revolution into America, while Republicans tarred the Federalists as plotting to restore the British monarchy. Each side saw the other as perverting the true spirit of the American Revolution.

It started off brutal and since they’ve stopped beating and shooting each other it has actually become more pleasant. I don’t understand the urge for people to welcome a return to the 70’s style politicians where they ganged up on the electorate. I’d much prefer to have them at each others throats than getting together and trying to figure out the best ways to screw us.

43 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 4:55:32am

re: #24 sngnsgt

He might’ve been trying to be nice. Your band might suck.
/

44 Taqyia2Me  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 4:55:46am

Borrowing doesn’t work either:
chicagotribune.com
Crunch enough data and you can write lists on which any state would be proud to see its name: Best in Job Growth, Best Climate for Employers, Best Public Finances. Illinois, though, would wallow far down on any of those lists. Instead, Illinois now is a fixture on a list relentlessly updated by CMA, a London-based credit information company. CMA’s “Sovereign Risk Monitor” ranks “the world’s most volatile sovereign debt issuers” — governments so threadbare they may not make good on their bonds.
Friday night in London, these were the governments worldwide that CMA ranked as having the highest percentage probabilities of defaulting on payments to bondholders:
Greece: 67.93 percent
Venezuela: 58.05
Argentina: 48.15
Pakistan: 38.80
Ukraine: 35.69
Iraq: 29.29
Dubai/Emirate of: 29.20
Illinois/State of: 27.35
California/State of: 27.00
Portugal: 25.11
There’s more than humiliation to ranking worse than left-for-dead California (and not much better than recuperating Iraq). The financial press has reported in recent days that bond buyers are so concerned about this state’s reliability that they’re demanding higher rates of interest from Illinois. From Illinois taxpayers, really. That’s one costly result of Illinois’ lazy political culture of overspending and overborrowing: We citizens aren’t merely drowning in debt that our leaders incurred — and that we and our descendants must repay. Bond rating firms also have been downgrading their estimation of Illinois’ willingness to discipline its finances. Illinois is perceived as such a risk of default that we’re having to squander millions in additional interest payments to get people to buy our bonds.

45 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 4:56:04am

re: #43 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He might’ve been trying to be nice. Your band might suck.
/

NO PIE FOR YOU!
/Pie Nazi

46 Semper Fi  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 4:59:38am

re: #39 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It appears he was asking the man to be more cooperative in the photo-op.

Asking a politician to lower taxes is as Murikan as Apple Pie.

Having a politician ignore your request is just as Universal.

Very American indeed. Personally, I wish Obama good health as a Biden VP seems scary.

47 RogueOne  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 5:04:14am

Dunkin Donuts run…..

48 Semper Fi  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 5:12:19am

re: #47 RogueOne

Dunkin Donuts run…

That’s always a good move. I usually start the coffee (auto) just before heading to the local donut shop.

49 Semper Fi  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 5:29:44am

The sky is very bright now, behind the mountains and the air is very still. Must have a very productive morning but LGF is such a pleasant way to start the day. Couple more cups of joe before signing off.

50 b_sharp  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 5:42:46am

You guys are up waaayyy too early.

Who was it grinding the coffee beans? You woke me up.

Anyway, I need a cuppa this morning. And a donut.

51 Semper Fi  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 5:46:50am

re: #50 b_sharp

You guys are up waaayyy too early.

Who was it grinding the coffee beans? You woke me up.

Anyway, I need a cuppa this morning. And a donut.

I think it’s just break-time. Rogue is making a donut run and I think Varek is into the pie.

52 RogueOne  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 5:47:32am

The DD run was disappointing. Not sure what has happened to that place but I can get better donuts at the grocery store bakery.

53 Cathypop  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 5:49:00am

Morning,
Just heard a commercial for a pest control company that uses no chemicals which is good but not a very good idea in central Texas. They will come out to your home and “Comfortably remove all your scorpions” Why would you want to make a scorpion comfortable? I hate scorpions and my house is surounded by prime scorpion property.

54 Semper Fi  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 5:50:45am

re: #52 RogueOne

The DD run was disappointing. Not sure what has happened to that place but I can get better donuts at the grocery store bakery.

And I thought it was just my local DD. Don’t know where they got their recipe but they gotta be losing business at my location.

55 sattv4u2  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 5:51:03am

re: #52 RogueOne

The DD run was disappointing. Not sure what has happened to that place but I can get better donuts at the grocery store bakery.

Youtube Video

//

56 Semper Fi  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 5:52:12am

re: #53 Cathypop

Morning,
Just heard a commercial for a pest control company that uses no chemicals which is good but not a very good idea in central Texas. They will come out to your home and “Comfortably remove all your scorpions” Why would you want to make a scorpion comfortable? I hate scorpions and my house is surounded by prime scorpion property.

Do they get into the house?

57 b_sharp  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 5:52:52am

re: #53 Cathypop

Morning,
Just heard a commercial for a pest control company that uses no chemicals which is good but not a very good idea in central Texas. They will come out to your home and “Comfortably remove all your scorpions” Why would you want to make a scorpion comfortable? I hate scorpions and my house is surounded by prime scorpion property.

Maybe a comfortable scorpion is less likely to sting? Give them a beer, let them chillax in a comfy chair and you’ll all get along.

58 b_sharp  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 5:54:18am

re: #56 Semper Fi

Do they get into the house?

They can’t enter unless you invite them in.

Or is that mosquitoes?

Some kind of blood sucker.

59 Semper Fi  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 5:58:52am

re: #58 b_sharp

They can’t enter unless you invite them in.

Or is that mosquitoes?

Some kind of blood sucker.

Invitation being an open door or such. Do scorpions climb?

60 RogueOne  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 5:59:12am

re: #54 Semper Fi

And I thought it was just my local DD. Don’t know where they got their recipe but they gotta be losing business at my location.

Over the last 18 months they built a lot of new locations in Indiana, my company helped with 3, almost half have already closed.

61 Cathypop  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 5:59:43am

re: #56 Semper Fi

Do they get into the house?


Yup. And I have become very good at comfortably stomping them to death. Also have a good pest control company that has put a good dent in the scorpion population.

62 Semper Fi  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:02:30am

re: #55 sattv4u2

[Video]

//

Sounds funny but apparently some of the best donut shops are operated by Cambodians. Not kidding at all. I have great experience with the morning donut run.

63 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:02:56am

re: #61 Cathypop

That legal?

64 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:03:34am

re: #62 Semper Fi

You can’t even go into a Dunkin Donuts without an Indian accent….

65 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:05:59am

re: #54 Semper Fi

Krispy Kremes have the best consistency. The same artery death knell, but the best consistency. Anywhere in America where I get one, they taste the same.

Evilly delicious.

66 Taqyia2Me  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:06:00am

re: #64 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You can’t even go into a Dunkin Donuts without an Indian accent…

Real good thing a republican was not the one who originally made that statement!

67 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:06:09am

Hello, goodbye (just stopping by before my morning bike ride.)

68 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:07:04am

re: #67 Mad Al-Jaffee

You say goodbye, and I say hello.

69 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:07:04am

re: #62 Semper Fi

I don’t eat donuts because I don’t want blue eyes. You know, because that song says, “donuts make my brown eyes blue.”

70 Taqyia2Me  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:07:05am

re: #67 Mad Al-Jaffee

Hello, goodbye (just stopping by before my morning bike ride.)

Be safe!!

71 Semper Fi  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:07:15am

re: #60 RogueOne

Over the last 18 months they built a lot of new locations in Indiana, my company helped with 3, almost half have already closed.

Sometimes I think DD is under the mistaken impression their donuts must be sufficiently dense and weighty to allow dunking. Not many people really dunk.

72 rwdflynavy  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:07:50am

re: #33 RogueOne

What made you decide to accept a desk job? More time for family?

I didn’t get to decide. This is typical after command you have to go to a staff job.

73 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:08:34am

re: #70 Taqyia2Me

Be safe!!

I never ride without my helmet, and when I’m on the road (I usually stick to the hiker/biker/runner paths) I stop at all stop signs and traffic lights. And I only flick off drivers if they deserve it. :)

74 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:09:39am

I really have to go. The sooner I get back home, the sooner I can have my iced coffee.

75 Cathypop  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:10:21am

re: #73 Mad Al-Jaffee

I never ride without my helmet, and when I’m on the road (I usually stick to the hiker/biker/runner paths) I stop at all stop signs and traffic lights. And I only flick off drivers if they deserve it. :)


Big up-ding for stopping at stop signs and traffic lights. Have seen many bikers ignore them and almost get flattened.

76 Semper Fi  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:10:31am

re: #61 Cathypop

Yup. And I have become very good at comfortably stomping them to death. Also have a good pest control company that has put a good dent in the scorpion population.

The possibility of have one in my shoe before sticking my foot in would cause me to make some adjustments like: Watch out for burglars and scorpions.

77 rwdflynavy  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:10:40am

OK, I’m due for an upgrade with Verizon and am seriously considering the Droid X. I only have a texting cell phone right now, so I’m looking forward to a lot more capability. Any one have a droid or incredible on Verizon? What are your thoughts?

78 Cathypop  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:11:43am

re: #76 Semper Fi

The possibility of have one in my shoe before sticking my foot in would cause me to make some adjustments like: Watch out for burglars and scorpions.

This time of year I wear flip-flops.

79 Semper Fi  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:14:23am

re: #64 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You can’t even go into a Dunkin Donuts without an Indian accent…

Interesting. Donut shop must be a good way to get into a business of your own.

80 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:14:36am

re: #77 rwdflynavy

I have a Droid with Sprint. Frickin’ love it.

As soon as I figure out how to answer the damn thing.

81 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:15:39am
82 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:16:46am

re: #79 Semper Fi

Especially if you don’t have to hire outside workers and can use family to reduce overhead.

I am reminded of the story of a Korean dry cleaner. Never took a vacation, never took a day off. 7 days a week. Someone asked him “Why don’t you take a vacation?” He replied, “In America? Every day is vacation.”

Love that story.

83 Semper Fi  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:18:20am

re: #65 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Krispy Kremes have the best consistency. The same artery death knell, but the best consistency. Anywhere in America where I get one, they taste the same.

Evilly delicious.

It was big news when they opened a KK in the Valley (S.F. Valley). Apparently it was one of the first in the LA area. The line to the drive-up window stretched around the block for at least the first couple weeks. Finally, the newness wore off.

84 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:19:35am
85 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:19:43am

re: #83 Semper Fi

It was big news when they opened a KK in the Valley (S.F. Valley). Apparently it was one of the first in the LA area. The line to the drive-up window stretched around the block for at least the first couple weeks. Finally, the newness wore off.

In Canada, there is a Tim Horton’s every 1/4 mile. All have lines. And morning all.

86 Semper Fi  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:20:51am

re: #67 Mad Al-Jaffee

Hello, goodbye (just stopping by before my morning bike ride.)

I hope drivers cut you a wide berth and slow down. Careful.

87 RogueOne  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:21:10am

re: #77 rwdflynavy

OK, I’m due for an upgrade with Verizon and am seriously considering the Droid X. I only have a texting cell phone right now, so I’m looking forward to a lot more capability. Any one have a droid or incredible on Verizon? What are your thoughts?

I just paid for the Droid Incredible last week, days before they announced the release of the X. The incredible won’t ship to me unil July 16th, the day after the X hits the stores. I’m going to go cancel my order this afternoon and see if I can pre-order the X or if I’ll have to take my chances on the day its released.

88 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:22:45am
89 RogueOne  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:23:44am

re: #77 rwdflynavy

The X has a bigger screen, much longer battery life, better video capture (720HD), a better camera with a mechanical shutter, and upgradable to 40gb instead of the 24 for the Incredible.

90 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:23:50am

re: #88 MandyManners

The day has finally arrived when The Kid’s foot is about to grow bigger than mine. From March until now, he’s grown one-and-a-half shoe sizes. Buy stock in Nike.

Heh, it drove my mom nuts trying to find shoes for me.
Being a size 15 and all.

91 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:24:46am

re: #90 Varek Raith

Heh, it drove my mom nuts trying to find shoes for me.
Being a size 15 and all.

Show off.
/

92 b_sharp  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:25:39am

re: #90 Varek Raith

Heh, it drove my mom nuts trying to find shoes for me.
Being a size 15 and all.

I thought size doesn’t matter.

93 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:26:34am

Y’all are a bunch of pervs!
/
:P

94 RogueOne  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:26:46am

I know what they say about men with big feet, what do they say about women with big feet?

95 Cathypop  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:27:02am

re: #93 Varek Raith

Y’all are a bunch of pervs!
/
:P

You just noticed?

96 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:28:00am
97 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:28:25am
98 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:28:28am

re: #94 RogueOne

Large penises. Why?

99 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:29:06am
100 Semper Fi  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:29:57am

re: #78 Cathypop

This time of year I wear flip-flops.

Meaning, I think, your eyes are sufficiently trained to spot a scorpion.
Also, I’m in awe of women’s ability to wear flip-flops without foot damage over time. I couldn’t do it and I’m not an overweight man. Feet just couldn’t handle it.

101 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:30:17am

re: #99 MandyManners

He’s 6’4” and 250 lbs., all muscle.

BFD. I’m 5’11”, 175, soft in the middle.

102 RogueOne  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:31:25am

re: #99 MandyManners

He’s 6’4” and 250 lbs., all muscle.

I’m 6’4” and I dropped 30 lbs in the last 6 weeks (down to 195lbs) because I felt fat.

103 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:31:29am

re: #101 Cannadian Club Akbar

BFD. I’m 5’11”, 175, soft in the middle.

6’ 3.5” @ 220.
I’ll step on you, bug!
:)

104 ryannon  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:31:37am

re: #92 b_sharp

I thought size doesn’t matter.

Only if you make love with your feet.

105 RogueOne  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:31:51am

re: #101 Cannadian Club Akbar

BFD. I’m 5’11”, 175, soft in the middle.

between your ears?

106 b_sharp  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:35:44am

re: #101 Cannadian Club Akbar

BFD. I’m 5’11”, 175, soft in the middle.

I’m 5’11-3/4” and wish I was 175lbs. Only way I can get down to that weight would be to go headless.

107 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:35:47am
108 sattv4u2  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:36:49am

I’m 6’ 10”
no,,, wait ,,, I’m standing on a chair

nevahmind!

109 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:37:30am

re: #108 sattv4u2

I’m 6’ 10”
no,,, wait ,,, I’m standing on a chair

nevahmind!

That makes it hard to type.

110 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:38:17am

re: #108 sattv4u2

I’m 6’ 10”
no,,, wait ,,, I’m standing on a chair

nevahmind!

Confucius say, man who stand on toilet is high on pot.

111 RogueOne  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:39:31am

re: #110 Varek Raith

Confucius say, man who stand on toilet is high on pot.

speaking of which, I knew I forgot to do something this morning…

112 Semper Fi  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:40:29am

re: #82 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Especially if you don’t have to hire outside workers and can use family to reduce overhead.

I am reminded of the story of a Korean dry cleaner. Never took a vacation, never took a day off. 7 days a week. Someone asked him “Why don’t you take a vacation?” He replied, “In America? Every day is vacation.”

Love that story.

That’s the first I heard it and love it also. Here’s another story:
A young Greek immigrant asked for and got a job in a small lighting company in LA area. That first month of employment he slept in the alley adjacent. Becoming aware of this the owner suggested he sleep in the warehouse with the portable lights (occasionally used for outdoor movie shoots when fortunate enough to land a contract) thinking he could also act as night watchman. This he did and used this time to become very familiar with the variety of portable lights, their uses and capabilities. After 25 years the Greek immigrant now owns that company.

113 sattv4u2  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:41:47am

re: #98 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Large penises. Why?

Years ago I was dating this amazing looking woman

Friend of mine said “how did you ever get with her, you must have a huge dick!”
I said “no, all I did was look at her and lick my eyebrows!”

114 sattv4u2  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:43:01am

re: #107 MandyManners

I’m gonna’ figure out the page thingy today.

heh ,,,I’m still mystified by toast!

115 Semper Fi  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:43:03am

re: #85 Cannadian Club Akbar

In Canada, there is a Tim Horton’s every 1/4 mile. All have lines. And morning all.

Oh, to have a product where there was always a line at you window or door. Always brings a smile.

116 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:43:46am

Holy crap!

Wife just ran downstairs and told me that the boyfriend is gaining sensation in his thighs. Yesterday was a little in his torso… it is moving down…

Oh. My. Goodness.

117 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:43:48am

re: #114 sattv4u2

heh ,,,I’m still mystified by toast!

Bread+Gasoline+Match=Toast.
How hard can it be???

118 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:44:18am

re: #116 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Holy crap!

Wife just ran downstairs and told me that the boyfriend is gaining sensation in his thighs. Yesterday was a little in his torso… it is moving down…

Oh. My. Goodness.

Fucking Awesome.
:)

119 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:44:39am

re: #114 sattv4u2

heh ,,,I’m still mystified by toast!

Mystery solved….

120 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:44:55am

re: #116 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Holy crap!

Wife just ran downstairs and told me that the boyfriend is gaining sensation in his thighs. Yesterday was a little in his torso… it is moving down…

Oh. My. Goodness.

Yippee!!

121 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:45:57am

re: #117 Varek Raith

Bread+Gasoline+Match=Toast.
How hard can it be???

That’s fucking funny.

122 RogueOne  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:47:58am

re: #119 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mystery solved…

Heywood is hilarious.

123 sattv4u2  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:48:04am

re: #117 Varek Raith

Bread+Gasoline+Match=Toast.
How hard can it be???

K ,, but how soon before my eyelashes start to grow back !?!?!

124 Semper Fi  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:48:08am

re: #94 RogueOne

I know what they say about men with big feet, what do they say about women with big feet?

I understand Audrey Hepburn wore and size 10 or 10 1/2. I don’t think size matters. Some big guys have small feet.

125 sattv4u2  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:48:41am

re: #124 Semper Fi

I understand Audrey Hepburn wore and size 10 or 10 1/2. I don’t think size matters. Some big guys have small feet.

nickname ,,, TIP!

126 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:50:10am
127 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:51:19am

re: #126 MandyManners

Did it work?

Yep.

128 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:52:04am
129 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:53:26am
130 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:55:01am

“There are some serious problems” in Afghanistan, Panetta said. “We’re dealing with tribal societies. We’re dealing with a country that has problems with governance, problems with corruption, problems with narcotics trafficking, problems with a Taliban insurgency,” he said.

I thought Leon was referring to the US….we are getting kicked in Astan

blogs.abcnews.com

131 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:55:32am

re: #129 MandyManners

We’re cautiously optimistic. It probably will still be horrible. But maybe not as horrible as we thought.

Thoughts too optimistic are sneaking into my brain, I’m having to nip them.

132 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:56:39am

re: #131 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

We’re cautiously optimistic. It probably will still be horrible. But maybe not as horrible as we thought.

Thoughts too optimistic are sneaking into my brain, I’m having to nip them.

The sun will engulf the Earth in a billion years.
Destroying all that we know.
.
.
.
That help???

133 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:57:12am

re: #132 Varek Raith

yay!

134 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:57:54am

re: #132 Varek Raith

Be funny if we engulfed the sun. Show that cocky bastard who’s boss.

135 Semper Fi  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:58:54am

re: #125 sattv4u2

nickname ,,, TIP!

You’d think so…. me too.

136 b_sharp  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 6:59:13am

re: #134 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Be funny if we engulfed the sun. Show that cocky bastard who’s boss.

Dyson sphere.

or maybe the Dyson vacuum cleaner.

137 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:00:24am

The Little green football prayer list
On June 27, 1950, President Harry S. Truman announces that he is ordering U.S. air and naval forces to South Korea to aid the democratic nation in repulsing an invasion by communist North Korea.

Lord Almighty we pray this morning for the nation of Israel. Hold up their Navy and give them Strength and wisdom. We pray this morning that you grant grace to the men and women serving in the IDF. Hold your people in your strong arms Dear Lord and protect them forever.
We pray today for the Gulf Coast of America and for all those whose lives are affected by the oil spill. We pray for the environment that is being damaged.
We pray for Roi this morning…Because of the Oil spill he may be out of work.. Find him work we pray.
We pray for our Veterans today. drumhike.com
Obdicut: My friend Pam, who’s ovarian cancer has returned. She’s going into chemo again. And she believes in the power of prayer.
Dark_Falcon: His Mother had a stroke..She is getting better.. Please heal her Lord
Jadespring: Dear Lord bring healing to a Sister.. Bring grace and strength to the Family.
We pray for your tender mercies
Wlewisiii: If you would pray as appropriate to your beliefs for John Freuh, his step-mother, my sister Elisabeth & his father Rick, I’d appreciate it.
Dear Lord..We ask you this day you bring healing and grace to SFZ’s Father and Mother-in-law..
Help her in the Job search and finding her a new Career. .
We know your love brings healing and life.
Dear Lord..We pray for SFZ this morning:
Her friend of a friend has a newborn son facing some bad medical issues. Prayers for Grant, son of Jill and Steven, are greatly appreciated.
Ausador: Parents
Irenicum: Lord heal this family and bring comfort to them..
Guanxi88: Best wishes and lizard mojo to my wife’s best friend. her father committed suicide not two weeks after her mother succumbed to cancer.
Reine: Health and Family.. Lord we ask you grant Reine’s Daughter a Special blessing..Look after her and grant grace.
gregb - 4 year old son who suffered a head injury last Friday and spent the
weekend in the ICU with some lingering effects all week.Jadespring: Our prayers go out to your sister…May she be healed
Baseballmom57: My God grant grace and healing to her son…
lurking faith… prayers for an aunt
Beekiller: Sister has been diagnosed with Cancer…We pray for a speedy recovery
FBV: Add my friend Jeff. Recently diagnosed with ALS. His family will watch him fade and die over the next three to five years. Wife and two kids (kids are young adults).
Also.. Daughters Boyfriend who suffered from a serious fall. We pray for a complete recovery.

Prairiefire: Health for Family and friends
Mcspiff: if you could add my uncle to the list. He went in for surgery today and it didn’t go so well. Extra organs had to come out, etc. Still just hearing bits and pieces now. But any prayers would be greatly appreciated.
Alouette’ Dear Father..His name in Hebrew is Pinhas ben Rivka. , and he is in congestive heart failure. He is 91 years old, and a WW2 Pacific vet.
Reloadingisnotahobby: Could add my parents?
They’re in their 80’s and slipping in to ALZ…Simultaneously
Lizard prayers for Beau Biden.
We pray for all our Troops who have died protecting our Freedom.. Comfort the families Dear Lord this morning…
Give strength to all our Armed Forces serving at home or abroad …America thanks you.
God Bless President Obama and his family…
God Bless Israel.. Continue to bless her with prosperity and strength…The land of Milk and Honey…
Thank you Lord..
Amen

138 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:00:54am

Andromeda–Milky Way collision

The Andromeda–Milky Way collision is a predicted galaxy collision that could possibly take place in approximately 3 billion years’ time between the two largest galaxies in the Local Group – the Andromeda Galaxy and the Milky Way which contains Earth.


The Universe is trying to kill us!11!1!

139 sattv4u2  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:02:16am

re: #132 Varek Raith

The sun will engulf the Earth in a billion years.
Destroying all that we know.
.
.
.
That help???

Doesn’t matter

We’re doomed as of 2012 anyway. Mayans, ya know!

140 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:02:49am

“It’s criminal what’s going on out there,” Taylor said minutes later. “This doesn’t have to happen.”
A scientist onboard, Mike Carron with the Northern Gulf Institute, said with this scenario, there will be oil on the beaches of the mainland.
“There’s oil in the Sound and there was no skimming,” Carron said. “No coordinated effort.”

Read more: mcclatchydc.com

what’s G Beck have to say about this?….Americans have been overwhelmed by govt…and this is what we get from the feds, like watching the Keystone Kops…it’s shameful or worse

141 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:07:07am

re: #116 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Holy crap!

Wife just ran downstairs and told me that the boyfriend is gaining sensation in his thighs. Yesterday was a little in his torso… it is moving down…

Oh. My. Goodness.

Awesome news, bro. Glad to hear it!

142 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:07:26am

record numbers of illegals dying to get into the US

azcentral.com

143 sattv4u2  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:07:32am

re: #134 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

BTW ,,, light dawns on marble head

I finally remember what your “and don’t drive like my brother” reference comes from!

DOH !

144 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:12:39am

CLEVELAND, Ohio — The Ohio Democratic Party tried unsuccessfully this week to get information on all people licensed to carry concealed weapons in the Buckeye State.
The state party sent letters to Ohio’s 88 sheriffs requesting the names and addresses of permit holders and the dates the licenses were issued. Ohio has about 211,000 permit holders

The Democrats intended to target people who support the Second Amendment — the constitutional right to bear arms — with campaign information, said party spokesman, Seth Bringman.

dems what to re-educate gun owners…fails the smell test

blog.cleveland.com

145 Macha  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:12:40am

re: #116 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Holy crap!

Wife just ran downstairs and told me that the boyfriend is gaining sensation in his thighs. Yesterday was a little in his torso… it is moving down…

Oh. My. Goodness.

That is marvelous news!

146 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:13:49am

re: #143 sattv4u2

You, of all people, should’ve picked it up first. Being from Boston (Our fair city) MA…

147 Semper Fi  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:13:52am

Have a nice sunday, lizards. Gotta sign off with much to accomplish today.
Thanks, Hoops, for the prayer list. Didn’t want to sign off w/o it.

148 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:14:19am

re: #144 albusteve

WTF?

149 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:15:45am

re: #148 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

WTF?

Indeed.

Though, I demand a permit to be able to carry around a katana!!!

150 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:16:16am

re: #149 Varek Raith

Sikh and ye shall find…

151 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:16:19am

re: #148 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

WTF?

more liberal intrusion into your private life

152 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:19:07am

re: #137 HoosierHoops

I love your wording of the prayer list, Hoops. Thanks.

My father in law got frostbite and malaria in Korea. Chosin Reservoir vet. He’s a total bad ass and I love him dearly.

153 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:19:10am

re: #151 albusteve

more liberal intrusion into your private life

Well, at least libs aren’t on an anti-sodomy/oral crusade.

154 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:20:12am

re: #150 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sikh and ye shall find…

Total joke fail, but I’m glad you got it anyway.

155 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:20:36am

re: #154 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Total joke fail, but I’m glad you got it anyway.

:)

156 sattv4u2  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:20:49am

re: #146 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You, of all people, should’ve picked it up first. Being from Boston (Our fair city) MA…

Been years since I heard the show

Local (Atlanta) Public Radio station now plays it on Saturday mornings. Caught it last week on my drive home from work

157 RogueOne  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:22:15am

re: #153 JasonA

Well, at least libs aren’t on an anti-sodomy/oral crusade.

My wife is trying to get on their mailing list.

158 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:23:04am

re: #157 RogueOne

My wife is trying to get on their mailing list.

I ain’t going near that one!
///

159 sattv4u2  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:23:18am

And on that note, the long drive home awaits

BBL (after the drive, a nap, lunch, chores, taking my son out for driving practice, more chores, another nap, dinner ,,,,,,,,,)

160 RogueOne  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:23:43am

re: #158 Varek Raith

I ain’t going near that one!
///

“That’s what she says”…

161 Four More Tears  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:23:43am

re: #157 RogueOne

My wife is trying to get on their mailing list.

Zing!

162 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:24:39am

re: #155 Varek Raith

:)

If you’d go back and change your comment to say “Kirpan”, I wouldn’t look so stupid. Thanks.

163 pharmmajor  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:24:46am

A mystery for the ages: Why doesn’t the titmouse have tits?

164 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:25:38am

re: #159 sattv4u2

Everyone jokes about a kid getting his license. It is a very liberating time in a parent’s life.

165 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:27:19am

re: #153 JasonA

Well, at least libs aren’t on an anti-sodomy/oral crusade.

is there an official list of sodomy/oral practicers kept by state authorities?
that’s a reach

166 sattv4u2  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:27:33am

re: #164 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Everyone jokes about a kid getting his license. It is a very liberating time in a parent’s life.

Will actually save me money

The cost (per month) to have him insured will end up less than what I pay in bus fare for school

(he attends a private High School,,, we pay per month for bus service over and above tuition)

167 sattv4u2  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:28:44am

re: #163 pharmmajor

A mystery for the ages: Why doesn’t the titmouse have tits?

BIGGER MYSTERY

Whose job was it to research this!!!!

How many titmouses did he feel up before he came to that conclusion!!

168 sattv4u2  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:31:21am

Laterzzzz

169 avanti  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:32:50am

My Studebaker friends did well at the Martin Mi. Pure Stock Muscle car drags again this year. All the car have to be bone stock, and running street tires and through the factory exhaust. We had 3 cars entered in 3 different classes and won all three in the two out of three shoot outs.

My 77 year old buddy Ted, beat a 455 GTO 4 speed in his shootout driving his factory supercharged Lark. The others won, beating a Olds 442 and a Rambler Scambler in the slower, 14 second classes. Here’s a video of Ted in action:

Youtube Video

170 b_sharp  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:37:17am

re: #165 albusteve

is there an official list of sodomy/oral practicers kept by state authorities?
that’s a reach

The dems were looking for information to send out pamphlets and Texas was looking to re-institute a law. Which one is more invasive into your private life? Which is easier to ignore?

171 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:38:00am

Canadian fascists clubbing hippies….
Liveleak Video

Beauty, eh?

172 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:40:21am

re: #163 pharmmajor

A mystery for the ages: Why doesn’t the titmouse have tits?

Tit

1540s, “any small animal or object” (as in compound forms such as titmouse, tomtit, etc.); also used of small horses. Similar words in related senses are found in Scandinavian (cf. Icel. tittr, Norw. tita “a little bird”), but the connection and origin are obscure; perhaps, as OED suggests, the word is merely suggestive of something small. Used figuratively of persons after 1734, but earlier for “a girl or young woman,” usually in deprecatory sense of “a hussy, minx” (1590s). Tit for tat (1550s) is possibly an alteration of tip for tap “blow for blow,” from tip (v.3) “tap” + tap “touch lightly.”
173 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:40:33am

re: #169 avanti

My Studebaker friends did well at the Martin Mi. Pure Stock Muscle car drags again this year. All the car have to be bone stock, and running street tires and through the factory exhaust. We had 3 cars entered in 3 different classes and won all three in the two out of three shoot outs.

My 77 year old buddy Ted, beat a 455 GTO 4 speed in his shootout driving his factory supercharged Lark. The others won, beating a Olds 442 and a Rambler Scambler in the slower, 14 second classes. Here’s a video of Ted in action:


[Video]


that’s my hometown track…nice place eh?…when you go to the points races, that’s my nephew in the “pretty little Maverick” blazing down the track..he’s a local favorite, show car clean and runs in the 10.50s

174 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:43:06am

re: #162 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

If you’d go back and change your comment to say “Kirpan”, I wouldn’t look so stupid. Thanks.

Kirpan it is!
I like bladed weapons.

175 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:43:24am

re: #170 b_sharp

The dems were looking for information to send out pamphlets and Texas was looking to re-institute a law. Which one is more invasive into your private life? Which is easier to ignore?

the difference is in Texas there is no law yet, and probably never will be

176 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:43:33am

WTF.
England was denied a goal….

177 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:44:44am

The Canadian police seem very well trained…..
Liveleak Video

Snatch!

178 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:48:20am

re: #177 Killgore Trout

The Canadian police seem very well trained…

[Video]Snatch!

Lol.
Nutter in the red shirt.

179 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:48:51am

re: #177 Killgore Trout

The Canadian police seem very well trained…

[Video]Snatch!

yes, they hold their ranks nicely….preventing violence is not part of their repertoire

180 b_sharp  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:49:05am

re: #175 albusteve

the difference is in Texas there is no law yet, and probably never will be

The Dems didn’t get the lists and never will so the pamphlets were never sent out.

181 laZardo  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:49:19am

re: #178 Varek Raith

Lol.
Nutter in the red shirt.

WHAT THE FUCK MAN THAT BALL BOUNCED IN.

/halftime. Germany 2 - 1 England.

182 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:49:29am

re: #180 b_sharp

The Dems didn’t get the lists and never will so the pamphlets were never sent out.

yes, I read it before I posted

183 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:49:43am

re: #181 laZardo

I KNOW!

184 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:50:23am

re: #177 Killgore Trout

The evil part of me is hoping they’re going all Rodney King on the guy.

185 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:51:21am

Biden strikes again

Vice President Joe Biden was at a custard shop in Milwaukee for a little photo op plus a cone of the shop’s signature custard dessert. Biden also got a little advice.
When asked how much he owed for the custard, the manager replied that it was one the house, but he would be willing to call it even if Biden were to lower his taxes. Biden, not amused, replied that the manager was a “smart ass.” Maybe there is an IRS audit in that shop’s future instead.

associatedcontent.com

186 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:51:34am

re: #171 Killgore Trout

I hate Canadian hippies…

187 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:51:47am

re: #184 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The evil part of me is hoping they’re going all Rodney King on the guy.

Interrogation droid.
Image: 3234022784_3887acff74.jpg

189 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:53:13am

re: #186 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I hate Canadian hippies…

those are not hippies in the streets…they’d all be 60yrs old or more…that whole scene died out long ago…it’s just a derogatory word now, misused

190 Political Atheist  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:53:15am

re: #116 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Holy crap!

Wife just ran downstairs and told me that the boyfriend is gaining sensation in his thighs. Yesterday was a little in his torso… it is moving down…

Oh. My. Goodness.

Yaay! Good to hear.

191 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:53:34am

G20:
I guess it takes a lot of courage and dedication to destroy public and private property as a demonstration against…errrr…ummm…something or other…
Good Morning LGF.

192 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:53:59am

re: #185 albusteve

I actually kind of like the fact that Joe will shoot off at the mouth.

Joe said something like (I watched it earlier), “You could’ve said something nice, you didn’t have to be a smart ass”…

The dude fucked up his photo op, Biden told him so.

193 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:54:01am

re: #186 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I hate Canadian hippies…

As long the they don’t hurt Donnie Dumphy…
Youtube Video

194 b_sharp  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:55:12am

re: #182 albusteve

yes, I read it before I posted

Then what was this about?

Maybe next time exclude the dig at liberals and just stick to condemning useless incursions into privacy.

195 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:55:32am

re: #193 Killgore Trout

37 seconds. I made it 37 seconds.

196 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:56:05am

re: #189 albusteve

Yeah. You’re right.

I hate Canadian Anarchists?

197 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:56:33am

re: #195 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

37 seconds. I made it 37 seconds.

25.
25…

198 laZardo  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:56:34am

re: #183 Varek Raith

I KNOW!

That makes Mick a Sad Jagger.

199 b_sharp  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:58:26am

re: #196 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yeah. You’re right.

I hate Canadian Anarchists?

Anarchists have no understanding of human psychology or needs of a society. They need to get up close and personal to a bit of reality.

200 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:59:15am

re: #199 b_sharp

Anarchists have no understanding of human psychology or needs of a society. They need to get up close and personal to a bit of reality.

I think it’s ironic that there are Anarchist Leaders.

201 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 7:59:31am

re: #199 b_sharp

Howabout Archivists?

202 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:00:47am

But much of the post-explosion inept response is Obama’s responsibility. It was BP’s rig that blew up and sank, but it was Obama’s federal apparatus that failed to recognize and react to a massive problem that would grow only bigger with inattention. And it was Obama’s scattershot, improvisational response that made him look more inept each day.

Obama’s problem is his background. He has never run anything except a campaign; never operated a company, never been a CEO. He cannot lead because he is not a leader. He’s an academic seminar facilitator. Notice his frequent references to “…experts in academia…” and his energy secretary Steven Chu who “…won a Nobel prize.” Obama is a collegiate propeller-head most comfortable in a room full of other propeller-heads. Solving problems is not their goal; talking about solving problems is. The meeting becomes the solution, an end in itself.

barnstablepatriot.com

where are the skimmers?….what is the status of the cleanup?

203 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:01:28am
204 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:01:30am

re: #191 Spare O’Lake

G20:
I guess it takes a lot of courage and dedication to destroy public and private property as a demonstration against…errr…ummm…something or other…
Good Morning LGF.

the taxpayers will cover it…it’s their responsibility

205 b_sharp  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:01:47am

re: #200 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I think it’s ironic that there are Anarchist Leaders.

Yes, but they lead by example. They are the first to get their heads rocked.
Darwin Award fodder.

206 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:03:00am
207 laZardo  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:03:58am

re: #188 Killgore Trout

RSM isn’t alone…
School sends home more than 20 children for racist chants during World Cup game

With the way the current game is going, that’s just the beginning.

208 b_sharp  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:04:07am

re: #201 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Howabout Archivists?

A group of maddened Archivists coming at you with sharpened pencils is one of the most frightening scenes you could imagine.

209 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:04:37am

re: #200 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Over 500 arrests so far, including people in their 50’s arrested in overnight and early morning raids at the nearby U of Toronto. Apparently these may be some of the ringleaders of the violent groups.
Arrests ongoing.
Developing story.

210 RogueOne  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:05:48am

re: #189 albusteve

those are not hippies in the streets…they’d all be 60yrs old or more…that whole scene died out long ago…it’s just a derogatory word now, misused


You sound like a hippie.

211 laZardo  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:06:47am

re: #189 albusteve

those are not hippies in the streets…they’d all be 60yrs old or more…that whole scene died out long ago…it’s just a derogatory word now, misused

Those are hipsters now…

212 avanti  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:06:48am

re: #173 albusteve

that’s my hometown track…nice place eh?…when you go to the points races, that’s my nephew in the “pretty little Maverick” blazing down the track..he’s a local favorite, show car clean and runs in the 10.50s

Yep, that’s a “real” dragstrip, a vanishing breed.

213 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:08:07am

socialists EU lays down the law in Britain….what a laffer

British shoppers are to be banned from buying eggs by the dozen under new regulations approved by the European Parliament.
For the first time, eggs and ­other products such as oranges and bread rolls will be sold by weight instead of by the number contained in a packet.


the Collective….coming soon to a town near you

Read more: dailymail.co.uk

214 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:09:14am

re: #210 RogueOne

You sound like a hippie.

just trying to enlightened the darkened minds here

215 RogueOne  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:09:15am

Off to mingle. Enjoy your day all.

216 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:10:19am

re: #206 MandyManners

Nice to see you using the pages feature. You even made the featured section! Congrats.

217 ryannon  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:10:53am

re: #171 Killgore Trout

Canadian fascists clubbing hippies…

[Video]

Beauty, eh?

I keep hearing an owl in that video.

Must have come out from the Bohemian Grove for the event.

218 Lidane  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:11:16am

re: #181 laZardo

WHAT THE FUCK MAN THAT BALL BOUNCED IN.

/halftime. Germany 2 - 1 England.

I’m still pissed about that. I don’t even have a stake in the outcome and that was a bullshit call.

I’m totally expecting England to start a push for goal line technology or replays when this World Cup ends. This match should be tied, dammit.

219 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:11:56am

Good Morning Lizards…Winston has been chasing a fly around for about an hour.. Funny to watch him stalk a fly.

220 ryannon  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:12:20am

re: #172 Killgore Trout

Tit: perhaps a corruption of the French ‘petit’.

221 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:13:10am

re: #209 Spare O’Lake

Over 500 arrests so far, including people in their 50’s arrested in overnight and early morning raids at the nearby U of Toronto. Apparently these may be some of the ringleaders of the violent groups.
Arrests ongoing.
Developing story.

Fucking conservative nut cases. Stuff like this is flamed by Rush and Beck and Alex Jones… that’s why these people and their agenda need to be exposed, discussed, we need to be educated about them, this is an outrage.

222 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:13:16am

re: #114 sattv4u2

heh ,,,I’m still mystified by toast!

Fuckin’ magnets, how do they work?

223 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:13:24am
224 pharmmajor  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:13:58am

re: #202 albusteve

But much of the post-explosion inept response is Obama’s responsibility. It was BP’s rig that blew up and sank, but it was Obama’s federal apparatus that failed to recognize and react to a massive problem that would grow only bigger with inattention. And it was Obama’s scattershot, improvisational response that made him look more inept each day.

No, it is not Obama’s responsibility, and he should not be getting shit for this.

225 avanti  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:14:34am

re: #203 MandyManners

The contempt oozed like custard out of Biden.

I didn’t see that, I saw two smart asses going back and forth. The video speaks for itself.

video..

226 laZardo  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:14:38am

re: #222 Mad Al-Jaffee

Fuckin’ magnets, how do they work?

FUCKIN’ MIRACLES

O:

227 ryannon  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:14:50am

re: #192 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I actually kind of like the fact that Joe will shoot off at the mouth.

Joe said something like (I watched it earlier), “You could’ve said something nice, you didn’t have to be a smart ass”…

The dude fucked up his photo op, Biden told him so.

Good for him.

228 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:16:30am

re: #220 ryannon

Tit: perhaps a corruption of the French ‘petit’.

Which would makes sense, considering the average Parisian woman is generally small breasted… the topless revue shows in Paris normally hires Swedish woman and other ethnic females who tend towards naturally larger chest sizes… because the more petit French woman do not attract tourists.

That was first explained to me in Lonely Planet Paris guide book.

229 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:16:44am

re: #224 pharmmajor

No, it is not Obama’s responsibility, and he should not be getting shit for this.

right…so who’s on first?

230 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:17:14am
231 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:17:19am

re: #229 albusteve

right…so who’s on first?

BP

232 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:18:07am

re: #227 ryannon

Good for him.

I’d love to fuck up a Biden photo op…he works for me and I’m unimpressed with his mouth

233 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:19:57am

re: #231 Varek Raith

BP

then why is BO lying about his responsibility?

234 ryannon  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:20:04am

re: #228 Walter L. Newton

Which would makes sense, considering the average Parisian woman is generally small breasted… the topless revue shows in Paris normally hires Swedish woman and other ethnic females who tend towards naturally larger chest sizes… because the more petit French woman do not attract tourists.

That was first explained to me in Lonely Planet Paris guide book.

It was in response to the etymological analysis of ‘Titmouse’ posted by Kilgore. Many French words have found their way into the English language in somewhat modified form.

235 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:20:56am

re: #230 MandyManners

I’ve seen the video. It’s extremely unseemly for the VP to go after a tax-payer.

not anymore….change!

236 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:21:09am

re: #233 albusteve

then why is BO lying about his responsibility?

Because that’s what stupid people want to hear.
It makes them feel good.
Bah!

237 avanti  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:21:09am

Fox is hammering Biden for saying we can’t recover all of the jobs lost from the recession. The comment is factual, some of those jobs are gone forever, but Fox spins it to “Biden admits the stimulus is a failure” and claiming it’s another gaff.

238 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:22:41am

re: #237 avanti

Fox is hammering Biden for saying we can’t recover all of the jobs lost from the recession. The comment is factual, some of those jobs are gone forever, but Fox spins it to “Biden admits the stimulus is a failure” and claiming it’s another gaff.

it is a failure…how can it be seen otherwise?
the feds get us into these messes and then can’t get us out of them

239 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:23:18am

re: #234 ryannon

It was in response to the etymological analysis of ‘Titmouse’ posted by Kilgore. Many French words have found their way into the English language in somewhat modified form.

For sure… I wrote a number of “tongue in cheek” informative essays about France for a travel web site in 2001, and here was my entry on language…


We have heard so much about the language barrier between the French and the rest of the world. But after my first 5 days in France, I suspect that the only barrier anyone has between the culture of one nation toward another is fear.

I am sitting here in the Chateau reading “Le Journal De Saone-et-Loire.” See that word “Journal,” it means newspaper, pretty simple.
Other words from the paper jump out at me. Reduction, voyages, transport, grand, gala, solitaire, France, sanctions, confrontation, nature and so on and so on.

In the same paper I see English words peppered though out the pages. Donald Duck, Mickey Mouse, Macdonald’s, Colgate, Marlboro, Winston, Kentucky Fried Chicken and the list goes on.

France has given us many of the words that we use on a daily basis and we have given them loan words that represent American consumerism. That seems like a fair trade… language barrier, I don’t think so.

240 avanti  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:23:26am

re: #232 albusteve

I’d love to fuck up a Biden photo op…he works for me and I’m unimpressed with his mouth

I like that he talks without a PC filter, and just talking in political sound bites. Sure, he screws up on occasion, but at least he talks like a human and not a political robot.

241 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:24:07am

This might be the greatest invention ever.

242 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:24:21am

re: #237 avanti

Fox is hammering Biden for saying we can’t recover all of the jobs lost from the recession. The comment is factual, some of those jobs are gone forever, but Fox spins it to “Biden admits the stimulus is a failure” and claiming it’s another gaff.

I will admit it’s a stupid spin, but, on the same topic, in regards to jobs, show me where the stimulus has worked?

243 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:25:09am

re: #240 avanti

I like that he talks without a PC filter, and just talking in political sound bites. Sure, he screws up on occasion, but at least he talks like a human and not a political robot.

he is a political robot, and his behavior proves it…it’s all about Joe and his op…man you can really twist stuff

244 laZardo  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:26:57am

It’s a fucking massacre. Muller scores two in the LAST FIVE MINUTES.

Germany 4 - 1 England

245 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:27:03am

Black Block Tactics: preplanned infiltration of non-violent demonstrations by violent black-uniformed balaclava-clad vandals who commit their violent acts and then change back into civilian clothing and merge back into the crowd.
This seems like well-planned criminal activity to me.

246 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:27:43am

re: #224 pharmmajor

No, it is not Obama’s responsibility, and he should not be getting shit for this.

You are correct; BP’s fault it happened, and BP is responsible for the clean-up and the claims payment, both of which they’ve done a poor job with.

However, there are legitimate criticisms to make as to how the Obama administration is handling this, the biggest one being the blanket 6-month moratorium.

I can understand how the blanket moratorium might be considered to be a good idea. But it isn’t, and the experts who signed that report have come out and said so, the moratorium is NOT a good idea. For one thing, it forced everybody to immediately seal the wells they were in the process of drilling, meaning everybody had to immediately perform the exact same activity that BP was engaged in when the well blew.

For another, it is punishing companies that have done no wrong.

After the blowout, all the wells out there underwent an immediate inspection; a couple of minor flaws were discovered and fixed. All the other inspections showed no violations. Why are these companies being punished?

But as to the blowout and the “fixing” of the leak and the clean-up - that is entirely on BP, and they’ve screwed up many facets of this process.

247 laZardo  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:27:45am

re: #245 Spare O’Lake

Black Block Tactics: preplanned infiltration of non-violent demonstrations by violent black-uniformed balaclava-clad vandals who commit their violent acts and then change back into civilian clothing and merge back into the crowd.
This seems like well-planned criminal activity to me.

Sounds like G[whatever number it is] protests-as-usual. O:

248 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:27:52am

re: #244 laZardo

It’s a fucking massacre. Muller scores two in the LAST FIVE MINUTES.

Germany 4 - 1 England

Well…at least it won’t be tainted by that blown call on the goal???

249 avanti  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:27:59am

re: #230 MandyManners

I’ve seen the video. It’s extremely unseemly for the VP to go after a tax-payer.

The tax payer cracked wise, and got it back, just human banter to me. From all I’ve read, Biden is just a real guy, and it would be phony for him to always be “seemly”, he is what he is.

250 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:29:19am

re: #249 avanti

The tax payer cracked wise, and got it back, just human banter to me. From all I’ve read, Biden is just a real guy, and it would be phony for him to always be “seemly”, he is what he is.

Telling someone on the floor of the Senate to “fuck off” is a-okay!
/dripping

251 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:29:31am

re: #244 laZardo

It’s a fucking massacre. Muller scores two in the LAST FIVE MINUTES.

Germany 4 - 1 England

Do they play The Ramones’ “Blitzkreig Bop” every time they score?

252 avanti  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:30:09am

re: #242 Walter L. Newton

I will admit it’s a stupid spin, but, on the same topic, in regards to jobs, show me where the stimulus has worked?

Walter, it’s unprovable, we’ll never know how we would have done without it. Things are much better, but if that’s due to the stimulus is unknowable.

253 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:30:24am

re: #246 reine.de.tout


Some are attuned to the possibility of looming catastrophe and know how to head it off. Others are unprepared for risk and even unable to get their priorities straight when risk turns to reality

the Dutch could have helped…who decided we didn’t need it?

Read more: financialpost.com

254 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:32:11am

re: #249 avanti

The tax payer cracked wise, and got it back, just human banter to me. From all I’ve read, Biden is just a real guy, and it would be phony for him to always be “seemly”, he is what he is.

He acted like a classless overbearing bully with no sense of humour.

255 Lidane  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:32:22am

re: #244 laZardo

It’s a fucking massacre. Muller scores two in the LAST FIVE MINUTES.

Germany 4 - 1 England

I’m expecting this to go to at least 5-1 by the time it’s over. England have clearly let getting screwed out of that goal get to them.

Also, the Germans are playing beautifully. I’m impressed.

256 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:32:37am

re: #252 avanti

Walter, it’s unprovable, we’ll never know how we would have done without it. Things are much better, but if that’s due to the stimulus is unknowable.

what things are much better?…unemployment? deficit spending? taxes? what else could matter that’s much better?

257 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:33:09am

re: #255 Lidane

I’m expecting this to go to at least 5-1 by the time it’s over. England have clearly let getting screwed out of that goal get to them.

Also, the Germans are playing beautifully. I’m impressed.

I don’t know.
England wasn’t exactly playing well before the bad call.

258 avanti  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:33:21am

re: #250 Varek Raith

Telling someone on the floor of the Senate to “fuck off” is a-okay!
/dripping

When I heard Cheney said that, I just grinned, not a big deal to me.

259 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:33:26am

re: #249 avanti

The tax payer cracked wise, and got it back, just human banter to me. From all I’ve read, Biden is just a real guy, and it would be phony for him to always be “seemly”, he is what he is.

Cracked wise? Let’s see, taxpayer speaking to VP… VP says “what can I do for you”… taxpayer says “lower my taxes”… VP replies “…smart ass…”

Yep, seems like a normal human banter. Let’s see, you are at Wendy’s…

Let’s see, customer speaking to manager… Manager says “what can I do for you”… customer says “my burger is not cooked”… manager replies “…smart ass…”

Yep… the customer certainly wised cracked to manager by asking something appropriate, something that the was in the power of the manager to consider.

Bullshit.

260 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:33:30am

re: #234 ryannon

It was in response to the etymological analysis of ‘Titmouse’ posted by Kilgore. Many French words have found their way into the English language in somewhat modified form.

“Titfer” is British rhyming slang for a hat. Tit-for-tat, rhymes with hat, they then leave of the second part that actually rhymes.

I got very confused when my British mother-in-law said she was looking for her “titfer”, I wondered if it was something she wore to keep her breasts from getting cold…

261 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:33:31am
262 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:33:52am

re: #258 avanti

When I heard Cheney said that, I just grinned, not a big deal to me.

Yep.
A nontroversey then.
A nontroversey now.
:)

263 avanti  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:34:44am

re: #256 albusteve

what things are much better?…unemployment? deficit spending? taxes? what else could matter that’s much better?

Taxes are lower, and job losses are less, the spending, not so much.

264 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:34:54am

re: #255 Lidane

I’m expecting this to go to at least 5-1 by the time it’s over. England have clearly let getting screwed out of that goal get to them.

Also, the Germans are playing beautifully. I’m impressed.


Not too late for the English to call the American to come and help bail them out llike we have before…

265 laZardo  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:34:59am

re: #255 Lidane

I’m expecting this to go to at least 5-1 by the time it’s over. England have clearly let getting screwed out of that goal get to them.

Also, the Germans are playing beautifully. I’m impressed.


Announcer mentioning how German sports pundits will be eating their words after writing off their team’s chances this year.

266 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:35:03am

re: #262 Varek Raith

Yep.
A nontroversey then.
A nontroversey now.
:)

I didn’t consider it a controversy when I posted it….just another example of big mouth Biden, trashing the people he works for

267 Lidane  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:35:25am

re: #257 Varek Raith

I don’t know.
England wasn’t exactly playing well before the bad call.

They were shit before the bad call, and now they’re worse. It’s like England woke up long enough to score two goals and they’ve been scrambling since.

It’s almost painful to watch, really.

268 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:35:45am

re: #253 albusteve


Some are attuned to the possibility of looming catastrophe and know how to head it off. Others are unprepared for risk and even unable to get their priorities straight when risk turns to reality

the Dutch could have helped…who decided we didn’t need it?

Read more: [Link: www.financialpost.com…]

I’ve not yet heard the reasons why the foreign assistance was shunned. I keep hearing how foreign offers were turned down, but what are the reasons? When somebody finds me a story telling me the reasons why the foreign aid was turned down, then I may be upset about this. Until then, I’m assuming that there were reasonable reasons for turning down these offers - maybe it’ll turn out I’m wrong on that, but I don’t understand why the only reporting on this has been “He turned down offers of help!”, with no reporting on the reasons WHY.

269 laZardo  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:35:55am

re: #258 avanti

When I heard Cheney said that, I just grinned, not a big deal to me.

That’s because anyone who would have called him out on that would have been SHOT IN THE FACE.

/Bill gets Monica jokes, Bush gets Bushisms, Cheney gets the gun (and heart condition) jokes.

270 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:36:17am
271 b_sharp  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:36:26am

re: #242 Walter L. Newton

I will admit it’s a stupid spin, but, on the same topic, in regards to jobs, show me where the stimulus has worked?

What is the meaning of this graph?

272 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:36:29am

re: #252 avanti

Walter, it’s unprovable, we’ll never know how we would have done without it. Things are much better, but if that’s due to the stimulus is unknowable.

So… how could the administration make such specific predictions. How could the administration tell us it would work, did work, has worked… they are telling us over and over the job situation is better, 2 1/2 million jobs saved or create (those figures were released last week)… how can they pin point anything… if according to you… it’s unprovable…

Great spin… they spent months telling us how well it would work in regards to jobs, and now you say it’s unprovable.

And by the way, they set up a whole staff to keep track of that… guess they can’t prove shit either…

Bullshit.

273 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:36:42am

re: #266 albusteve

I didn’t consider it a controversy when I posted it…just another example of big mouth Biden, trashing the people he works for

Copy that.

274 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:37:08am

re: #271 b_sharp

What is the meaning of this graph?

Access Denied!

275 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:37:42am

re: #250 Varek Raith

Telling someone on the floor of the Senate to “fuck off” is a-okay!
/dripping

Not the same as Biden picking on a storekeeper from whom he was MOOCHING an ice cream. I guess he felt he was entitled - not only to the free cone but also to have his ass kissed by the small businessman.

276 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:38:07am

re: #275 Spare O’Lake

Not the same as Biden picking on a storekeeper from whom he was MOOCHING an ice cream. I guess he felt he was entitled - not only to the free cone but also to have his ass kissed by the small businessman.

Meh.
Really.
It’s all meh.

277 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:40:27am

re: #268 reine.de.tout

I’ve not yet heard the reasons why the foreign assistance was shunned. I keep hearing how foreign offers were turned down, but what are the reasons? When somebody finds me a story telling me the reasons why the foreign aid was turned down, then I may be upset about this. Until then, I’m assuming that there were reasonable reasons for turning down these offers - maybe it’ll turn out I’m wrong on that, but I don’t understand why the only reporting on this has been “He turned down offers of help!”, with no reporting on the reasons WHY.

I can’t find that info either…or who’s in charge of the cleanup, or what progress is being made, non of that…I presumed BP is responsible for the cleanup money wise but that all hands, world wide would pitch in….meanwhile the Gulf is dying

278 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:40:47am
279 Mich-again  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:41:21am

re: #270 MandyManners

Sounds like Chavez is getting his talking points from Stormfront.

280 Lidane  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:41:30am

re: #276 Varek Raith

Meh.
Really.
It’s all meh.

That’s been my reaction so far. The World Cup is far more interesting, IMO.

281 laZardo  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:41:43am

re: #270 MandyManners

Excuse me while I stock up on aspirin.

282 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:42:01am

re: #280 Lidane

That’s been my reaction so far. The World Cup is far more interesting, IMO.

Freaking instant replays!
NOW!

283 Lidane  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:42:49am

re: #282 Varek Raith

Freaking instant replays!
NOW!

At the very least, some kind of goal line technology so that when a ball goes in, the goal is counted, barring any fouls or offside calls.

284 avanti  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:42:58am

re: #275 Spare O’Lake

Not the same as Biden picking on a storekeeper from whom he was MOOCHING an ice cream. I guess he felt he was entitled - not only to the free cone but also to have his ass kissed by the small businessman.

Next spin: Biden steals cone from struggling small business owner after breaking in with armed body guards, than brutally assaults the owner when he tries to resist.

285 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:43:50am

Being all worked up over Biden’s comment is rather…thin skinned, don’t ya think?

286 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:44:14am

re: #276 Varek Raith

Meh.
Really.
It’s all meh.

I agree. Biden is all meh.

287 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:44:17am
288 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:44:41am

re: #268 reine.de.tout

I’ve not yet heard the reasons why the foreign assistance was shunned. I keep hearing how foreign offers were turned down, but what are the reasons? When somebody finds me a story telling me the reasons why the foreign aid was turned down, then I may be upset about this. Until then, I’m assuming that there were reasonable reasons for turning down these offers - maybe it’ll turn out I’m wrong on that, but I don’t understand why the only reporting on this has been “He turned down offers of help!”, with no reporting on the reasons WHY.

I haven’t been following that criticism but according to media matters….
Myth: Obama admin turned down foreign assistance in dealing with oil cleanup

At least that give a starting point if you want to look into it.

289 Mich-again  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:44:43am

re: #280 Lidane

That’s been my reaction so far. The World Cup is far more interesting, IMO.

England has given up 2 goals to Germany after the English side had free kicks and the Germans took the ball the other way on long breakaways to score. Horrible defense by England.

290 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:44:53am

A British company has revealed new blotting paper-like technology it says could be used to suck up large amounts of oil floating in the Gulf of Mexico.

ho hum…we don’t need you

news.sky.com

291 Varek Raith  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:45:12am

re: #286 Spare O’Lake

I agree. Biden is all meh.

Yes.
Biden is meh.
Being worked up over his comments is meh.
WE’RE ALL MEH*!

*The new ZOD!

292 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:45:16am
293 Mich-again  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:45:18am

Is anyone really keeping track of things Joe Biden says?

294 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:45:44am
295 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:47:27am

re: #293 Mich-again

Is anyone really keeping track of things Joe Biden says?

G Beck probably

296 laZardo  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:47:40am

re: #294 MandyManners

Capitalist hoarder pig!

D’awwww.

297 Bubblehead II  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:48:03am

re: #268 reine.de.tout

re: #277 albusteve

Here in one of the reasons the Dutch help was refused.

From the Financial Post link.

*snip*

“The voracious Dutch vessels, for example, continuously suck up vast quantities of oily water, extract most of the oil and then spit overboard vast quantities of nearly oil-free water. Nearly oil-free isn’t good enough for the U.S. regulators, who have a standard of 15 parts per million — if water isn’t at least 99.9985% pure, it may not be returned to the Gulf of Mexico.”

Fucking Idiots.

298 b_sharp  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:48:12am

re: #253 albusteve


Some are attuned to the possibility of looming catastrophe and know how to head it off. Others are unprepared for risk and even unable to get their priorities straight when risk turns to reality

the Dutch could have helped…who decided we didn’t need it?

Read more: [Link: www.financialpost.com…]

Lawrence Solomon is well known not to research his articles. I posted an article a couple of weeks ago that showed Obama has accepted the offers of several countries, including the Dutch.

Here is another article.

299 SixDegrees  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:48:16am

re: #246 reine.de.tout

You are correct; BP’s fault it happened, and BP is responsible for the clean-up and the claims payment, both of which they’ve done a poor job with.

However, there are legitimate criticisms to make as to how the Obama administration is handling this, the biggest one being the blanket 6-month moratorium.

I can understand how the blanket moratorium might be considered to be a good idea. But it isn’t, and the experts who signed that report have come out and said so, the moratorium is NOT a good idea. For one thing, it forced everybody to immediately seal the wells they were in the process of drilling, meaning everybody had to immediately perform the exact same activity that BP was engaged in when the well blew.

For another, it is punishing companies that have done no wrong.

After the blowout, all the wells out there underwent an immediate inspection; a couple of minor flaws were discovered and fixed. All the other inspections showed no violations. Why are these companies being punished?

But as to the blowout and the “fixing” of the leak and the clean-up - that is entirely on BP, and they’ve screwed up many facets of this process.

Perhaps. But squabbling over who’s fault it is and who’s responsible has effectively kept anyone from actually doing much to ameliorate the effect of the spill.

It struck me this morning that a solid month elapsed between the initial explosion and the appearance of oil on neighboring beaches. The President has broad emergency powers, whose limits are admittedly unknown in a case like this, but which might well be tested. For example, during wartime the President (and/or Congress?) can effectively take control of the nation’s manufacturing capacity and direct it to military production; granted, the Navy probably doesn’t have the capacity or equipment to help with containment and recovery efforts (booms and skimmers) but all the other oil companies working in the Gulf and elsewhere offshore certainly do, and an Executive order directing the deployment of those resources - in place of or as an adjunct to the attempted production moratorium - likely would have made a significant difference. Streamlining procedures for deploying Coast Guard equipment up front, instead of a week after hearing their were regulatory problems in the way, is another example. Deploying the Army Corps of Engineers to assist in rapid construction of barrier berms off the Louisiana cost, another project debated, delayed and still not undertaken, is yet another.

Instead, the Administration has turned this into a political exercise, engaged in partisan finger-pointing and divisive threats instead of simply attempting to engage the problems at hand: shutting down the wellhead, containing as much oil as possible before it reaches sensitive shallow water areas, and cleaning up shorelines that have been directly affected.

We can - and certainly will - argue ‘til the cows come home over who is ultimately responsible. But waiting until BP’s responsibilities are established through the courts - or even through political fiat - is a process that will take months, possibly years. Everyone, from government to industry, needs to shut the fuck up and start dealing with the problem at hand, rather than arguing over who is to blame. In the end, we can send BP and whoever else is deemed responsible a bill for everyone’s time and effort, but that time and effort needs to be expended now, not later.

300 laZardo  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:48:58am

The Rundown is over.

Germany 4 - 1 England.

301 b_sharp  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:49:56am

re: #259 Walter L. Newton

Cracked wise? Let’s see, taxpayer speaking to VP… VP says “what can I do for you”… taxpayer says “lower my taxes”… VP replies “…smart ass…”

Yep, seems like a normal human banter. Let’s see, you are at Wendy’s…

Let’s see, customer speaking to manager… Manager says “what can I do for you”… customer says “my burger is not cooked”… manager replies “…smart ass…”

Yep… the customer certainly wised cracked to manager by asking something appropriate, something that the was in the power of the manager to consider.

Bullshit.

What did the manager say after the fact. Was he upset?
He was in a better position to evaluate Biden’s comment than anyone watching that video.

302 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:50:04am

WASHINGTON — The United States is warning Turkey that it is alienating US supporters and needs to demonstrate its commitment to partnership with the West.
The remarks by Philip Gordon, the Obama administration’s top diplomat on European affairs, were a rare admonishment of a crucial NATO ally.

smart and timely move by the administration…put some heat on Turkey

jpost.com

303 Lidane  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:50:22am

re: #300 laZardo

The Rundown is over.

Germany 4 - 1 England.

Up next: the Argentina - Mexico massacre. *cries*

I want Mexico to win, but the way Maradona’s got the Argentine team playing, it’s going to be tough.

304 laZardo  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:50:52am

re: #303 Lidane

Up next: the Argentina - Mexico massacre. *cries*

I want Mexico to win, but the way Maradona’s got the Argentine team playing, it’s going to be tough.

Argentina’s probably gonna run Germany down afterward.

305 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:51:32am
306 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:51:46am

re: #299 SixDegrees

good post

307 Lidane  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:52:32am

re: #304 laZardo

Argentina’s probably gonna run Germany down afterward.

Honestly? I expect Argentina to win it all. They’ve been on fire the entire tournament.

308 Randall Gross  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:52:42am

re: #294 MandyManners

You might want to edit your pages article from Harry’s place — there’s a misspelling in the Headline .

309 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:53:19am
310 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:54:38am

re: #305 MandyManners

up is down and wrong is right…the crackpot failed pols are gaining on us…Calderone’s remarks the other day regarding US immigration iced the cake…the truth is dead and Castro rules

311 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:55:19am
312 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:56:24am
313 b_sharp  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:57:26am

re: #275 Spare O’Lake

Not the same as Biden picking on a storekeeper from whom he was MOOCHING an ice cream. I guess he felt he was entitled - not only to the free cone but also to have his ass kissed by the small businessman.

Biden asked the manager how much he owed for the cones.

Go watch the video.

314 SixDegrees  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:57:27am

re: #263 avanti

Taxes are lower, and job losses are less, the spending, not so much.

Changes to the rules for Flexible Spending Accounts have wiped out any paltry tax “cuts” I might have realized. Beginning January 1, the new rules for medical expenditures will increase my Federal tax burden by several hundred dollars per year.

And even the tax “cuts” aren’t really cuts for a large swath of the population, since the government managed to fuck up the withholding rules in their collective wisdom. Married folks, for the most part, are not having enough withheld from their paychecks, and as a result will wind up with a much smaller return, or owing taxes instead of receiving a refund.

Meanwhile, no politician has the balls to vote for even the tiniest spending decrease; no politician has any desire to curb their insatiable habit of spending far beyond the amount collected in tax revenues; and no politician will vote for any sort of meaningful tax increase, no matter how badly it is needed. And although I think this latter problem is somewhat shameful, it is also just as well, because any increase in revenue will only result in an even larger cacophony of grunting and squealing at the public trough and an ever-increasing orgy of deficit spending by all.

315 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:57:41am
316 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:58:07am

‘Iran lawmakers to join Lebanon Gaza-bound aid ship’

Iranian lawmakers protesting Israel’s blockade of the Gaza Strip plan to travel on an aid ship destined to leave from Lebanon, an Iranian official said on Saturday.


Iranian lawmakers?….bwahahaha!
Israel is just fucked…the US will have to step in when the shit hits the fan..will we?, I don’t think so, certainly not decisively

317 Randall Gross  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:58:34am

re: #312 MandyManners

*eeks*

Thanks.

Welcome it’s just one of those slyxdexic typo sorta things that I do all the time.

318 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:58:49am
319 Randall Gross  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:59:06am

re: #315 MandyManners

How do I do that?

Click on the pencil it will bring up an edit box

320 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 8:59:11am

re: #315 MandyManners

How do I do that?

hire Thanos

321 Randall Gross  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:00:05am

re: #320 albusteve

hire Thanos

Well that won’t work — only Mandy can edit Mandy pages.

322 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:00:20am
323 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:00:31am

re: #301 b_sharp

What did the manager say after the fact. Was he upset?
He was in a better position to evaluate Biden’s comment than anyone watching that video.

Really… it doesn’t matter to me what how the manager took the remark… I thought it was inappropriate… that’s all I’m saying. I don’t expect to be talked to like that by my managers at work, I wouldn’t talk like that to customers at work.

Do I think it’s an outrage… no… do I think it shows lack of being able to converse in public in a civil manner… yes.

324 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:00:33am
325 Randall Gross  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:01:39am

re: #322 MandyManners

MAGIC!

Yes, or as a technician might say “PFM” - which is the acronym for Pure _______ Magic.

326 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:01:57am

re: #318 MandyManners

What did Calderon say?

mcclintock.house.gov

ww4report.com

327 Randall Gross  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:02:24am

Well see you later folks, the lawn police are going to come get me if I don’t start moving here this am…

328 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:06:04am
329 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:06:41am

Time for laudry, groceries, etc. The lawn can wait until after we get some rain. Later.

330 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:10:23am

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.) accused Democrats Saturday of “kick[ing] the can down the road” on the deficit by failing to pass a comprehensive budget resolution.
Democrats are capping next year’s discretionary spending bills and setting a goal of cutting the deficit in half by 2015, but they won’t detail how they’ll reach that goal.
Ryan suggested Democrats want to spare their members another tough vote.
“With the political season upon us, Democratic leaders believe it’s better to take a pass than to pass a budget,” Ryan said in the weekly Republican address.


“This is a time to make tough choices, not run from them,” Ryan said. “To that end, Republicans on the Budget Committee have already identified $1.3 trillion in specific spending cuts we would implement right now to make Washington do more with less and help small businesses put people back to work.”

democrats…the party of won’t

thehill.com

still no budget for 2010

331 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:11:03am

re: #288 Killgore Trout

I haven’t been following that criticism but according to media matters…
Myth: Obama admin turned down foreign assistance in dealing with oil cleanup

At least that give a starting point if you want to look into it.

Thanks, Killgore.

I’ve heard various stories about this, that “the unions” didn’t want foreign help with this. If that were the case, honestly, I would be perfectly happy with jobs going to US citizens rather than foreign citizens. The job situation is one of the reasons I want that moratorium lifted.

Anyhow - I haven’t seen anything super credible about foreign aid generally being turned down, mainly just general bitching about this or that specific offer.

332 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:11:27am

re: #328 MandyManners

It’s unseemly for a foreign leader to criticize another nation’s laws while in that nation.

especially the leader of Mexico…a human rights black hole….it must be a joke that I don’t get

333 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:12:59am

More arrests of “anarchists” underway. Lots of arrests going down right now. Police seem to be watching for some of the perps from yesterday. Quebec anarchists. One is a yoga instructor. 600 under arrest. Highly organized and co-ordinated criminals. Some spotted coming out of sewers..sewer covers being welded shut. This is un-fucking-believable.
The cops are less tolerant today, and it looks like they will be arresting a lot more of these assholes today.

334 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:14:31am

re: #331 reine.de.tout

Thanks, Killgore.

I’ve heard various stories about this, that “the unions” didn’t want foreign help with this. If that were the case, honestly, I would be perfectly happy with jobs going to US citizens rather than foreign citizens. The job situation is one of the reasons I want that moratorium lifted.

Anyhow - I haven’t seen anything super credible about foreign aid generally being turned down, mainly just general bitching about this or that specific offer.

I don’t believe anything Gates says, or whatever Fox news says….my cynicism is off the scale….I want to see a swarm of activity with my own eyes, and I don’t because it’s not there…the gulf is dying while people twitter about with their heads up their ass

335 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:15:35am

re: #333 Spare O’Lake

More arrests of “anarchists” underway. Lots of arrests going down right now. Police seem to be watching for some of the perps from yesterday. Quebec anarchists. One is a yoga instructor. 600 under arrest. Highly organized and co-ordinated criminals. Some spotted coming out of sewers..sewer covers being welded shut. This is un-fucking-believable.
The cops are less tolerant today, and it looks like they will be arresting a lot more of these assholes today.

will they prosecute?…will they punish them?
stay tuned

336 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:18:57am
337 lawhawk  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:19:13am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I have to get a chuckle out of this story.

The story itself isn’t funny, but the sourcing for it is.

Israel is alleged to be setting up a base in Saudi Arabia for a raid on Iran’s nuclear facilities.

MSNBC credits Israeli media outlets like Ha’aretz and the JTA for picking up the report, along with UPI (the wire service).

Where’d they get it?

FARS - the Iranian propaganda mouthpiece of the Iranian regime.

Iran claims Israel is building the base; Israeli media outlets report on it - and their reporting gains steam.

Iran’s nuclear infrastructure and intentions to use their nuclear infrastructure for weapons development needs to be confronted. Israel and the Saudis have a shared interest in stopping Iran’s nuclear program albeit for completely different reasons. But that doesn’t mean that the Saudis will do what Iran claims they’re doing. Iran is just pushing back against sanctions and using the Sunni-Shia schism to its advantage claiming that the House of Saud is in cahoots with the Zionists - undermining the Saud’s claims to protecting Mecca and Medina.

338 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:19:49am

re: #333 Spare O’Lake

re: #335 albusteve

I just posted a spin-off backgrounder on Black Block Anrarcho-Ninjas.

339 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:19:55am
340 b_sharp  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:20:58am

re: #274 Varek Raith

Access Denied!

Try here.

341 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:20:59am

re: #299 SixDegrees

Perhaps. But squabbling over who’s fault it is and who’s responsible has effectively kept anyone from actually doing much to ameliorate the effect of the spill.

I don’t believe this is true. There are problems, difficulties, false starts, etc. But from what I’ve seen, people are trying their very best to get this thing handled.

It struck me this morning that a solid month elapsed between the initial explosion and the appearance of oil on neighboring beaches. The President has broad emergency powers, whose limits are admittedly unknown in a case like this, but which might well be tested. For example, during wartime the President (and/or Congress?) can effectively take control of the nation’s manufacturing capacity and direct it to military production; granted, the Navy probably doesn’t have the capacity or equipment to help with containment and recovery efforts (booms and skimmers) but all the other oil companies working in the Gulf and elsewhere offshore certainly do, and an Executive order directing the deployment of those resources - in place of or as an adjunct to the attempted production moratorium - likely would have made a significant difference. Streamlining procedures for deploying Coast Guard equipment up front, instead of a week after hearing their were regulatory problems in the way, is another example. Deploying the Army Corps of Engineers to assist in rapid construction of barrier berms off the Louisiana cost, another project debated, delayed and still not undertaken, is yet another.

Those berms are being built. The problem was the permits for the berms. In addition, the CG did indeed keep “getting in the way” of certain boats sucking up the oil with vacuum hoses, and Obama stepped in and basically told the CG to get out of the way.

And I believe the other oil companies are helping with this. Very quietly though, this is BP’s problem and they don’t want ANY PART OF IT to stick to them.

Instead, the Administration has turned this into a political exercise, engaged in partisan finger-pointing and divisive threats instead of simply attempting to engage the problems at hand: shutting down the wellhead, containing as much oil as possible before it reaches sensitive shallow water areas, and cleaning up shorelines that have been directly affected.

No one can shut down that wellhead! If BP could have done it, it would have been done! The rest of it is BEING DONE.

We can - and certainly will - argue ‘til the cows come home over who is ultimately responsible. But waiting until BP’s responsibilities are established through the courts - or even through political fiat - is a process that will take months, possibly years. Everyone, from government to industry, needs to shut the fuck up … .

And here you have it. Obama stays out of the way, there is a huge hue and cry about how he isn’t paying attention to the problem. When he speaks, there is a huge hue and cry about partisan finger-pointing. Like every other presidential administration in my memory, he’s damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t.

There are plenty of real criticisms to be dealt with. Expecting Obama to deal with the crisis on the one hand, and “shut the fuck up” on the other hand, is just not realistic.

342 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:21:37am

re: #311 MandyManners

Turkish rally for Gaza had a Nazi flag.

when Bush was POTUS, scumbags like erdogan kept their antisemitism and anti Israel rhetoric much more “under wraps” because he knew GWB was a strong supporter of Israel. But since 1/20/09, erdogan has felt much less afraid of allowing his regime’s true intentions to come out because (whether it’s true or not) there is a belief in the world that the Obama administration is much less supportive of Israel than Bush (or B. Clinton for that matter) was.

343 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:22:03am
344 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:23:25am
345 b_sharp  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:23:29am

re: #339 MandyManners

Why weren’t those covers welded down to begin with? Shouldn’t that be SOP?

Good question.

$1,000,000,000 spent and an obvious travel path isn’t secured? Somebody FU.

346 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:24:38am

re: #341 reine.de.tout

Excellent—note there can be a price if berm blockage is not done with care. An oyster industry honcho said (CNN?) that excess fresh water is poisoning the beds.

347 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:26:29am

re: #334 albusteve

I don’t believe anything Gates says, or whatever Fox news says…my cynicism is off the scale…I want to see a swarm of activity with my own eyes, and I don’t because it’s not there…the gulf is dying while people twitter about with their heads up their ass


If this isn’t a “swarm” of activity, I don’t know what is. More than 6500 vessels actively responding. There so many boats out there, I don’t know if they could get another one in. The following info. is as of Friday:

RESPONSE VESSELS
Vessels of Opportunity: 2,750
Barges: more than 620
Skimmers: more than 430
Other Vessels: more than 2,780
Total active response vessels: more than 6,580

Aircraft: 98

BOOM DATA
Boom deployed: more than 2.6 million feet
Boom available: more than 936,000 feet
Total boom: more than 3.5 million feet

OIL RECOVERED
Oily water recovered: over 26 million gallons
Amount estimated burned: nearly 10 million gallons

Oil captured (CAP) over last 24hrs: more than 1,070,000 gallons

DISPERSANTS
Surface dispersant used: more than 1.003,000 gallons
Subsea dispersant used: more than 527,000 gallons
Total dispersant used: more than 1,530,000 gallons


PERSONNEL INVOLVED
Overall personnel responding: more than 38,000 personnel responding

348 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:26:48am

re: #344 MandyManners

He does seem more emboldened lately.

erdogan sees that Obama’s outstretched hand can be met by a country’s middle finger with no negative consequences.

349 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:27:25am
350 b_sharp  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:27:42am

re: #341 reine.de.tout

And here you have it. Obama stays out of the way, there is a huge hue and cry about how he isn’t paying attention to the problem. When he speaks, there is a huge hue and cry about partisan finger-pointing. Like every other presidential administration in my memory, he’s damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t.

There are plenty of real criticisms to be dealt with. Expecting Obama to deal with the crisis on the one hand, and “shut the fuck up” on the other hand, is just not realistic.

Reine, you are an intelligent, rational, level-headed and courageous person. Your input on this issue is appreciated.

351 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:28:12am

re: #348 _RememberTonyC

erdogan sees that Obama’s outstretched hand can be met by a country’s middle finger with no negative consequences.

Sure, because Bush would have totally invaded Turkey if shit like this had gone down…

//

352 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:28:29am
353 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:28:50am

re: #351 SanFranciscoZionist

Sure, because Bush would have totally invaded Turkey if shit like this had gone down…

//

I’m assuming you get my point, whether you agree with it or not.

354 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:29:21am

re: #349 MandyManners

I still cannot wrap my brain around spending that much for a fence.

Which probably means the story is hyped. When something seems ridiculous to a sane person, it usually is bull.

355 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:30:11am

Is California a sinking ship?

California and regional agencies have heaped so many taxes, rules and regulations on state businesses that the whole enterprise is about to founder, a group of businessmen told local Republican State Assemblymembers at a forum in Anaheim today.
“California is dead. The ship is sinking and it’s going down,” said Bill Taormina, whose family founded Anaheim Disposal and who now is chief executive of Clean City, Inc.
He complained about legislators more concerned about raising campaign contributions than solving business problems.

In addition, he questioned why California imposes stricter standards on businesses in the state, which drives up their costs, then purchases goods and services from out-of-state suppliers because they are cheaper.

call in the feds….American taxpayers will clean up the mess…next up? Illinois

jan.ocregister.com

356 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:30:21am

re: #353 _RememberTonyC

I’m assuming you get my point, whether you agree with it or not.

I get your point, and I assume you understand that I don’t agree.

357 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:30:25am

re: #350 b_sharp

Reine, you are an intelligent, rational, level-headed and courageous person. Your input on this issue is appreciated.

thank you.
I’m trying really hard to keep focused on real issues, not things that people want to make into an issue to show something about the administration.

I didn’t vote for Obama; he is not exactly my most favorite President of all times; but there are very real issues with what’s going on with this, and lack of action or failure to address the talking points people have come up with on his part are not among the big issues, IMO.

358 b_sharp  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:30:31am

re: #349 MandyManners

I still cannot wrap my brain around spending that much for a fence.

But, but, but, it wasn’t just a fence. They also built an indoor lake.

Here is where I roll my eyes.

359 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:31:17am

re: #347 reine.de.tout

thanks…I feel somewhat better

360 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:31:51am

re: #335 albusteve

will they prosecute?…will they punish them?
stay tuned

My guess is that almost none will even be charged. Probably just arrested and held until the G20 ends later today, and then released. A handful will probably be charged and prosecuted.

361 lawhawk  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:32:38am

re: #355 albusteve

No. Next on the sinking ship of state alert is New York. NJ may have averted their mess this year.

362 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:33:24am

re: #360 Spare O’Lake

My guess is that almost none will even be charged. Probably just arrested and held until the G20 ends later today, and then released. A handful will probably be charged and prosecuted.

Yeah, that’s fairly standard with something like this.

363 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:34:31am

re: #358 b_sharp

But, but, but, it wasn’t just a fence. They also built an indoor lake.

Here is where I roll my eyes.

This article is hostile to the fence, but costs it at 5.5 million—the billion seems to be the cost of the entire summit, if at all true.

thestar.com

364 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:34:45am

re: #357 reine.de.tout

thank you.
I’m trying really hard to keep focused on real issues, not things that people want to make into an issue to show something about the administration.

I didn’t vote for Obama; he is not exactly my most favorite President of all times; but there are very real issues with what’s going on with this, and lack of action or failure to address the talking points people have come up with on his part are not among the big issues, IMO.

Isn’t it bloody infuriating when you actually know something about a situation, and can see all the complexities, and people just want to make it a referendum on ‘The President: Good or EEEEvil?”?

365 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:34:59am

If anyone is interested: Response Timeline

366 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:35:00am

re: #361 lawhawk

No. Next on the sinking ship of state alert is New York. NJ may have averted their mess this year.

they all look the same to me…as for NY cuts, somebody has to be paid off…did the cuts involve unions?

367 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:35:15am

re: #356 SanFranciscoZionist

I get your point, and I assume you understand that I don’t agree.


Of course. But there is something to be said for a leader who is strong enough to keep rogue leaders (which erdogan appears to be) from feeling too comfortable about openly siding with our enemies. And if Obama were smart, he’d let turkey know that siding with iran in any meaningful way represents the type of behavior that threatens its NATO membership. Because it seems that turkey does not feel it’s cozying up to iran has any risks at all.

368 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:35:20am

re: #364 SanFranciscoZionist

Isn’t it bloody infuriating when you actually know something about a situation, and can see all the complexities, and people just want to make it a referendum on ‘The President: Good or EEEvil?”?

And you’ve been through it from both sides of the aisle now.

369 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:35:49am
370 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:35:58am

re: #364 SanFranciscoZionist

Isn’t it bloody infuriating when you actually know something about a situation, and can see all the complexities, and people just want to make it a referendum on ‘The President: Good or EEEvil?”?

It’s as aggravating now as it was (is) when people try to tell me I know NOTHING about Katrina and how that response came down.

Which happens on occasion in these very threads

371 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:36:29am
372 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:37:06am

re: #311 MandyManners

Turkish rally for Gaza had a Nazi flag.

Showing their true colours.

373 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:38:16am

re: #369 MandyManners

I can see spending that much on all security but, not just a fence. I’ve heard it from both NPR and Fox.

I suspect one of them can’t tell the truth, and the other can’t do math.

374 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:39:11am

re: #367 _RememberTonyC

Of course. But there is something to be said for a leader who is strong enough to keep rogue leaders (which erdogan appears to be) from feeling too comfortable about openly siding with our enemies. And if Obama were smart, he’d let turkey know that siding with iran in any meaningful way represents the type of behavior that threatens its NATO membership. Because it seems that turkey does not feel it’s cozying up to iran has any risks at all.

Under Bush, Iran was prancing around with folk dancers waving ‘uranium’ in little containers, but it was not seen by his supporters as a referendum on the effectiveness of George W. Bush. Nor should it have been.

Any analysis of international affairs that depends on a general idea of how the president is ‘seen’ by the world is basically wishful thinking.

And neither you nor I know what’s being said to Erdogan behind closed doors.

375 swamprat  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:39:15am
376 darthstar  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:40:07am

re: #365 reine.de.tout

If anyone is interested: Response Timeline

The rig sank on April 22. President Obama didn’t respond to the rig’s sinking until April 22. COINCIDENCE!!??!?!11ty I think not.
from wiki:

At 09:45 p.m. CDT April 20, 2010, during the final phases of drilling the exploratory well at Macondo,[46] a geyser of seawater erupted from the marine riser onto the rig, shooting 240 ft (73 m) into the air. This was soon followed by the eruption of a slushy combination of mud, methane gas, and water. The gas component of the slushy material quickly transitioned into a fully gaseous state and then ignited into a series of explosions and then a firestorm. Workers immediately attempted to activate the blowout preventer, but it failed.[47]

At the time of the explosion, there were 126 crew on board; seven were employees of BP, 79 of Transocean, there were also employees of various other companies involved in the operation of the rig, including Anadarko, Halliburton and M-I Swaco.[48] Eleven workers were presumed killed in the initial explosion. The rig was evacuated, with numerous injured workers airlifted to medical facilities.[5] Support ships sprayed the rig with water in an ultimately unsuccessful bid to cool it and prevent it from capsizing. This was also intended to buy time in order to attempt to end the flow of oil and gas that were feeding the flames from coming up the riser pipe. If successful, this action would have reduced the flames and allowed special teams of firefighters to board the stricken rig and extinguish the remaining fire.[49]

After burning for approximately 36 hours, Deepwater Horizon sank on April 22, 2010. The remains of the rig were located resting on the seafloor approximately 5,000 ft (1,500 m) deep at that location, and about 1,300 ft (400 m) (quarter of a mile) northwest of the well.

377 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:40:09am
378 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:40:11am

re: #374 SanFranciscoZionist

Under Bush, Iran was prancing around with folk dancers waving ‘uranium’ in little containers, but it was not seen by his supporters as a referendum on the effectiveness of George W. Bush. Nor should it have been.

Any analysis of international affairs that depends on a general idea of how the president is ‘seen’ by the world is basically wishful thinking.

And neither you nor I know what’s being said to Erdogan behind closed doors.

And having lobbed into the political discussion, I have to go jump around holding an Israeli rainbow flag on Market Street in SF. See you all later.

379 Renaissance_Man  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:40:28am

re: #364 SanFranciscoZionist

Isn’t it bloody infuriating when you actually know something about a situation, and can see all the complexities, and people just want to make it a referendum on ‘The President: Good or EEEvil?”?

Or, in this case, ‘The President: Evil Villain or Incompetent Buffoon? You Decide!’

380 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:40:44am

Obama’s Drilling Moratorium Affecting More Than 33 Wells

very informative, along with some opinion

Unfortunately, the myth that shallow-water drilling isn’t being affected by the deepwater moratorium is rapidly being exposed as a cruel hoax. Not a single federal permit for shallow-water activity has been granted since the April 20 disaster. Some 16 shallow-water rigs that were all engaged before the incident are now sitting idle. In 30 days, that total will grow to 34 rigs. Approximately 50 offshore marine service and supply vessels are already out of work and that number will expand to over a hundred very soon. Louisiana’s shipbuilding industry—a critical player in our state’s economy—is bracing for a potentially devastating drop in new business orders and the likely cancellation of some existing contracts.

nationalreview.com

381 darthstar  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:40:45am

re: #378 SanFranciscoZionist

And having lobbed into the political discussion, I have to go jump around holding an Israeli rainbow flag on Market Street in SF. See you all later.

Have fun.

382 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:40:51am
383 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:41:46am

re: #349 MandyManners

I still cannot wrap my brain around spending that much for a fence.

That is a very rough estimate of the total security costs for both the G8 and the G20, including all the manpower costs. They have about 20,000 police on active duty, probably being paid double time and a half.

384 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:42:44am
385 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:43:08am

re: #383 Spare O’Lake

That is a very rough estimate of the total security costs for both the G8 and the G20, including all the manpower costs. They have about 20,000 police on active duty, probably being paid double time and a half.

And a bunch of new police cruisers.

386 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:43:23am
387 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:43:59am

re: #380 albusteve

Obama’s Drilling Moratorium Affecting More Than 33 Wells

very informative, along with some opinion

Unfortunately, the myth that shallow-water drilling isn’t being affected by the deepwater moratorium is rapidly being exposed as a cruel hoax. Not a single federal permit for shallow-water activity has been granted since the April 20 disaster. Some 16 shallow-water rigs that were all engaged before the incident are now sitting idle. In 30 days, that total will grow to 34 rigs. Approximately 50 offshore marine service and supply vessels are already out of work and that number will expand to over a hundred very soon. Louisiana’s shipbuilding industry—a critical player in our state’s economy—is bracing for a potentially devastating drop in new business orders and the likely cancellation of some existing contracts.

[Link: www.nationalreview.com…]

Yes.
This moratorium is a real issue, in my most humble opinion.

This is the biggest criticism I have of the administration’s reaction.

It is not necessary, AND the experts who signed the report Salazar used to justify the moratorium have said:
1) The report recommendations were changed after they signed it.
2) They do NOT believe the moratorium is necessary, and
3) The moratorium may increase danger, not reduce it.

I have a link somewhere; shall I find it?

388 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:44:52am

re: #380 albusteve

Obama’s Drilling Moratorium Affecting More Than 33 Wells

very informative, along with some opinion

Unfortunately, the myth that shallow-water drilling isn’t being affected by the deepwater moratorium is rapidly being exposed as a cruel hoax. Not a single federal permit for shallow-water activity has been granted since the April 20 disaster. Some 16 shallow-water rigs that were all engaged before the incident are now sitting idle. In 30 days, that total will grow to 34 rigs. Approximately 50 offshore marine service and supply vessels are already out of work and that number will expand to over a hundred very soon. Louisiana’s shipbuilding industry—a critical player in our state’s economy—is bracing for a potentially devastating drop in new business orders and the likely cancellation of some existing contracts.

[Link: www.nationalreview.com…]

That article is from National Review… you think there is a single truthful fact in that article?

389 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:45:23am

re: #384 MandyManners

[Link: www.vancouversun.com…]

[Link: www.nationalpost.com…]

Yup—whole security effort. I’d like to have the difference between 834 million and 1B.

390 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:47:50am

re: #374 SanFranciscoZionist

Under Bush, Iran was prancing around with folk dancers waving ‘uranium’ in little containers, but it was not seen by his supporters as a referendum on the effectiveness of George W. Bush. Nor should it have been.

Any analysis of international affairs that depends on a general idea of how the president is ‘seen’ by the world is basically wishful thinking.

And neither you nor I know what’s being said to Erdogan behind closed doors.

iran has been our enemy for more than 30 years under administrations from carter to Obama. Turkey has been our “friend” for a lot longer than that, even if we have had some bumpy spells. There is a huge difference between iran and Turkey. I totally disagree that it is not important how the world perceives our President. It is CRITICALLY important whether our POTUS is seen as loyal and resolute or someone whose core values change according to the most recent news cycle. Afghanistan is a perfect eaxmple. Karzai is hedging his bets and moving closer to the taliban enemy because he may think that Obama is going to cut and run. And why do you suppose he feels that way? it may be because he has seen the actions and heard the words of our administration over the past 18 months and is not fully comfortable with them. As for what erdogan is being told behind closed doors, I’ll agree with you on that one. But regardless of the private messages, his actions on the world stage are what matters. if we are privately reading him the riot act and he is still openly defying us and siding with iran, I guess he doesn’t worry too much about the consequences of his open defiance.

391 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:48:18am

re: #387 reine.de.tout

pretty sure I’ve seen it….

The moratorium is another example of an obvious shortcoming of President Obama. He often lets his words outrun the facts.

understatement of the year…we surely could use someone with executive experience to take on “my responsibility”

392 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:48:47am

re: #388 Walter L. Newton

That article is from National Review… you think there is a single truthful fact in that article?

the truth is dead

393 bratwurst  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:48:51am

re: #353 _RememberTonyC

I’m assuming you get my point, whether you agree with it or not.


I get your point, but I think Erdogan’s antics have as much or more to do with his domestic situation as it does with being “emboldened” by the Obama administration.

394 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:49:50am

re: #374 SanFranciscoZionist

Under Bush, Iran was prancing around with folk dancers waving ‘uranium’ in little containers, but it was not seen by his supporters as a referendum on the effectiveness of George W. Bush. Nor should it have been.

Any analysis of international affairs that depends on a general idea of how the president is ‘seen’ by the world is basically wishful thinking.

And neither you nor I know what’s being said to Erdogan behind closed doors.

There is so much that goes on in government behind closed doors, that for good reason, the public is not aware of. What is said in public is said with a particular audience in mind. It’s what you see happening in any congressional hearing - they all speak to their particular audience, not really to the person being questioned.

We have to trust that our officials, in the end, have the best possible intentions. and aren’t simply eeevil people out to ruin us.

395 b_sharp  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:51:20am

re: #371 MandyManners

NPR said that the lake cost “only” $53,000.00.

I guess we, the Canadian taxpayer, should be happy that an unneeded lake only cost $53,000.

The whole mess could have been done much cheaper.

396 Renaissance_Man  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:52:22am

re: #394 reine.de.tout


We have to trust that our officials, in the end, have the best possible intentions. and aren’t simply eeevil people out to ruin us.

I think this fact is one that is all too quickly lost in the rhetoric and mythology sweeping the current Conservative cult.

397 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:52:27am

re: #393 bratwurst

I get your point, but I think Erdogan’s antics have as much or more to do with his domestic situation as it does with being “emboldened” by the Obama administration.

you would…same for Iran, Cuba, Venezuala, Syria, Lebanon etc?
give me a break
they all laugh at BO with contempt and people all over the world see this…but you don’t…interesting

398 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:52:48am

re: #391 albusteve

pretty sure I’ve seen it…

The moratorium is another example of an obvious shortcoming of President Obama. He often lets his words outrun the facts.

understatement of the year…we surely could use someone with executive experience to take on “my responsibility”

I am very much against this moratorium. It presents huge problems and as I’ve said is unnecessary IMO. I’ve written many comments about that.

399 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:53:21am

re: #396 Renaissance_Man

I think this fact is one that is all too quickly lost in the rhetoric and mythology sweeping the current Conservative cult.

Yes.
And before that, the anti-Bush cult.
Round and round it goes.

400 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:53:57am
401 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:54:11am

re: #396 Renaissance_Man

I think this fact is one that is all too quickly lost in the rhetoric and mythology sweeping the current Conservative cult.

I don’t confuse evil with stupidity, arrogance and selfishness

402 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:54:17am

re: #396 Renaissance_Man

I think this fact is one that is all too quickly lost in the rhetoric and mythology sweeping the current Conservative cult.

Baby—bathtub. There are a lot of anarchists in Saville Row suits out there.

403 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:54:19am

re: #390 _RememberTonyC

iran has been our enemy for more than 30 years under administrations from carter to Obama. Turkey has been our “friend” for a lot longer than that, even if we have had some bumpy spells. There is a huge difference between iran and Turkey. I totally disagree that it is not important how the world perceives our President. It is CRITICALLY important whether our POTUS is seen as loyal and resolute or someone whose core values change according to the most recent news cycle. Afghanistan is a perfect eaxmple. Karzai is hedging his bets and moving closer to the taliban enemy because he may think that Obama is going to cut and run. And why do you suppose he feels that way? it may be because he has seen the actions and heard the words of our administration over the past 18 months and is not fully comfortable with them. As for what erdogan is being told behind closed doors, I’ll agree with you on that one. But regardless of the private messages, his actions on the world stage are what matters. if we are privately reading him the riot act and he is still openly defying us and siding with iran, I guess he doesn’t worry too much about the consequences of his open defiance.

Erdogan has had the Islamist agenda ever since he was first elected in 2003. His anti-Semitism is probably quite heartfelt. The fucker.

404 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:55:12am
405 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:55:29am

re: #397 albusteve

you would…same for Iran, Cuba, Venezuala, Syria, Lebanon etc?
give me a break
they all laugh at BO with contempt and people all over the world see this…but you don’t…interesting

it is a recurring pattern all over the world. and unless the POTUS finally realizes what is going on and changes his approach to friend and foe alike, we are headed for bigger trouble. russia and china are watching closely.

406 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:56:21am

re: #404 MandyManners

Why the need for that lake? Doesn’t Canada have enough lakes already?!

We have an extreme shortage of fake lakes.

407 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:56:33am
408 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:57:00am
409 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:58:27am

re: #403 Spare O’Lake

Erdogan has had the Islamist agenda ever since he was first elected in 2003. His anti-Semitism is probably quite heartfelt. The fucker.

agree 100%. but only in recent times has he felt comfortable enough to “reveal” his agenda on the world stage. And to me, the reasons are pretty clear. And it has a LOT to do with the way he perceives the resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

410 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:59:37am

Severe overcrowding is routine at L.A. County-USC Medical Center
When there are too many patients to be admitted to the 600-bed facility, the emergency and waiting rooms get backed up. Critics had warned of such a problem when the new hospital’s size was decided.

and at the very bottom, the last sentence…

Bell also attributed the overcrowding problems to “a large illegal immigrant population” that uses the emergency room as a primary care facility.

latimes.com

411 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:01:05am

re: #408 MandyManners

Do the fish come in sticks?

Heh. Why yes they do, prebreaded and with cute little cardboard fins.

412 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:01:14am

re: #405 _RememberTonyC

it is a recurring pattern all over the world. and unless the POTUS finally realizes what is going on and changes his approach to friend and foe alike, we are headed for bigger trouble. russia and china are watching closely.

he’s a community organizer (for a couple of years anyway) way in over his head….talking about problems in a meeting does not solve them

413 b_sharp  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:02:40am

re: #404 MandyManners

Why the need for that lake? Doesn’t Canada have enough lakes already?!

Pretty much yes, the province I live in has over 100,000. However, we don’t have many inside buildings, and I guess that is important for the journalists at the G8/20.

414 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:03:31am

re: #297 Bubblehead II

re: #277 albusteve

Here in one of the reasons the Dutch help was refused.

From the Financial Post link.

*snip*

“The voracious Dutch vessels, for example, continuously suck up vast quantities of oily water, extract most of the oil and then spit overboard vast quantities of nearly oil-free water. Nearly oil-free isn’t good enough for the U.S. regulators, who have a standard of 15 parts per million — if water isn’t at least 99.9985% pure, it may not be returned to the Gulf of Mexico.”

Fucking Idiots.

“nearly oil-free” not being good enough is absolutely true.
It’s one of the standards that rigs are supposed to meet - during drilling and production operations, they cannot spill anything that leaves even the slightest “sheen” on the water, not even a cupful, without being subject to fines. My husband deals with these requirements every time he’s out on a rig.

There are no exceptions in the regs for “foreign” vessels, that I know of. Why would that be acceptable? There will still be oil in the water subject to coming up on the beaches, harming marine life. Why would we allow that?

415 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:04:01am
416 prairiefire  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:04:40am

re: #398 reine.de.tout

Hello, Reine. I read a CBS news article where Gov. Jindal had not yet used the full amount of National Guard troops allotted to him. He responded in this article, but still did not address the original question about the Guard.CBS News

Have you read about this?

417 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:04:44am

re: #411 Spare O’Lake

Heh. Why yes they do, prebreaded and with cute little cardboard fins.

Just like the meat we eat falls from the sky already cut into steaks and placed in nice sanitary shrink-wrap, with weight and price affixed.
/

418 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:04:55am
419 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:06:13am
420 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:06:20am

re: #414 reine.de.tout

“nearly oil-free” not being good enough is absolutely true.
It’s one of the standards that rigs are supposed to meet - during drilling and production operations, they cannot spill anything that leaves even the slightest “sheen” on the water, not even a cupful, without being subject to fines. My husband deals with these requirements every time he’s out on a rig.

There are no exceptions in the regs for “foreign” vessels, that I know of. Why would that be acceptable? There will still be oil in the water subject to coming up on the beaches, harming marine life. Why would we allow that?

Because it’s fucking disaster. The same as we didn’t do air quality studies before sending rescuers into the WTC area to look for survivors.

421 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:08:43am

re: #417 reine.de.tout

Just like the meat we eat falls from the sky already cut into steaks and placed in nice sanitary shrink-wrap, with weight and price affixed.
/

heh…who were we having that chat with the other day? i forget which lizard isn’t against meat per se, just the killing…love it…

(good afternoon/morning, all, depending on your time zone)

422 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:09:26am

re: #416 prairiefire

Hello, Reine. I read a CBS news article where Gov. Jindal had not yet used the full amount of National Guard troops allotted to him. He responded in this article, but still did not address the original question about the Guard.CBS News

Have you read about this?

The “red tape and bureacracy”, I read as what seems to be ongoing difficulties with the Coast Guard. I posted here about how the CG stopped oil removal operations, going on close to shore (in probably 4 feet of water) to make sure the boats had the right number of life preservers. Those boats were shut down for a day, with the final 8 of the 16 held longer because the CG couldn’t figure out which boats had been inspected, which had not. It was a problem. Obama finally told the CG to make recommendations, but don’t shut down operations and that seems to have been resolved.

As to calling up the National Guard - I’m not sure what the purpose would be for Jindal to call up more of them. The National Guard fabricated the oil-removal equipment used by the boats I described above. BP has hired a lot of people to keep the beaches clean. In other words, I think it’s entirely likely that the reason Jindal has not called up more National Guard is that they are not needed at this time.

423 prairiefire  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:10:16am

re: #422 reine.de.tout

Thanks, How is your daughter’s trip going?

424 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:10:46am

re: #412 albusteve

he’s a community organizer (for a couple of years anyway) way in over his head…talking about problems in a meeting does not solve them

true, but we have him for up to 6.5 more years. i want him to learn the stuff he doesn’t know very quickly. and he is a smart guy who will hopefully realize when he’s being played and when he is dealing with a true friend. To me, Obama can learn the stuff he needs to know. My biggest concern is the info he is being given by his people. He needs the wisdom to listen to the right stuff and ignore the wrong stuff. It is in both of our interests that he succeed.

425 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:12:58am

re: #423 prairiefire

Thanks, How is your daughter’s trip going?

She’s HOME!
She had a great time, hasn’t stopped talking about it yet.
I’m so glad she had that opportunity.
I’m trying to get her to post her photos of Stonehenge.
She does have a couple from the London Eye- she said it took them 40 minutes to go all the way around. I do think, though, that all the kids were just about “castled out” by the end of the trip, LOL.
They saw some beautiful countryside, a strange sort of cow with long hair, she kissed the Blarney Stone, ate haggis, had fish & chips, and, well, basically had a great trip.

426 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:13:21am

re: #424 _RememberTonyC

true, but we have him for up to 6.5 more years. i want him to learn the stuff he doesn’t know very quickly. and he is a smart guy who will hopefully realize when he’s being played and when he is dealing with a true friend. To me, Obama can learn the stuff he needs to know. My biggest concern is the info he is being given by his people. He needs the wisdom to listen to the right stuff and ignore the wrong stuff. It is in both of our interests that he succeed.


and one more thing. he needs to rid himself of his 24-7/365 campaigning. you got the job, now worry more about doing what is right and worry less about your next election.

427 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:13:43am
428 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:15:13am

re: #420 Walter L. Newton

Because it’s fucking disaster. The same as we didn’t do air quality studies before sending rescuers into the WTC area to look for survivors.

Well - I don’t think we clean up the disaster by doing something that will add to it, leaving oil in the water.

The oil will get cleaned up. There are more than 6500 vessels out there right now getting things done.

429 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:15:49am
430 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:16:37am
431 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:17:31am

re: #428 reine.de.tout

Well - I don’t think we clean up the disaster by doing something that will add to it, leaving oil in the water.

The oil will get cleaned up. There are more than 6500 vessels out there right now getting things done.

The NOLA area is nothing if not resilient. All Americans are with you. You will prevail.

432 albusteve  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:17:36am

here is where the Recovery From Fairyland is heading…sideways when it moves at all

washingtonpost.com

433 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:18:07am

re: #425 reine.de.tout

She’s HOME!
She had a great time, hasn’t stopped talking about it yet.
I’m so glad she had that opportunity.
I’m trying to get her to post her photos of Stonehenge.
She does have a couple from the London Eye- she said it took them 40 minutes to go all the way around. I do think, though, that all the kids were just about “castled out” by the end of the trip, LOL.
They saw some beautiful countryside, a strange sort of cow with long hair, she kissed the Blarney Stone, ate haggis, had fish & chips, and, well, basically had a great trip.

Highland Cattle…

outdoors.webshots.com

434 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:18:57am

re: #430 MandyManners

I think he knows what he’s doing.

then he may be looking for work in 2013

435 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:19:12am

re: #433 Walter L. Newton

Highland Cattle…

[Link: outdoors.webshots.com…]

Yes, that’s it!
only the one she has a photo of had even longer hair than that, almost to the ground.

436 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:19:50am

re: #428 reine.de.tout

Well - I don’t think we clean up the disaster by doing something that will add to it, leaving oil in the water.

The oil will get cleaned up. There are more than 6500 vessels out there right now getting things done.

Evidently, according to your statement, it would do more good than harm, add less that it would recover, and at this point less of any oil in the gulf is better.

437 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:20:04am

re: #429 MandyManners

Like this? IIRC, the first time I saw any was at the National Western Livestock Show years ago.

Yep, like that.

438 prairiefire  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:20:13am

re: #435 reine.de.tout

I have a photo of a Highland cattle scratching his nose with his back hoof.

439 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:20:28am

re: #438 prairiefire

I have a photo of a Highland cattle scratching his nose with his back hoof.

post it!

440 prairiefire  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:22:34am

re: #439 reine.de.tout

post it!

Ha! It is almost 20 years old. I will have to find it and scan it. Might be a project for another day! : )

441 Bubblehead II  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:22:36am

re: #414 reine.de.tout

442 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:24:20am

re: #427 MandyManners

I believe it was, the killing for sport.

Right, yes- thanks! Because eating after one has killed for sport is sooo different than eating after one has killed for business. Ah, that was a fun one.

443 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:24:43am

re: #436 Walter L. Newton

Evidently, according to your statement, it would do more good than harm, add less that it would recover, and at this point less of any oil in the gulf is better.

The bottom line for me on this is that:
The oil will get cleaned up. If it takes two months longer without those ships than it would take with them, it still will get cleaned up, and the effects of the longer time it takes are really short-term, not worth the worry.

It’s more important, IMO, to focus on those decisions that will have extreme and long-term negative effects (the moratorium).

444 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:25:16am

re: #441 Bubblehead II

totally

445 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:25:51am

re: #444 Aceofwhat?

totally

agreed.
/

446 prairiefire  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:26:45am

I’m taking around 10 little 12 year old girls to see “Eclipse” on Thursday for my daughter’s birthday. Who’s jealous?

447 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:27:03am

Afternoon, fellow lizards. What’s the good word?

448 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:27:20am

re: #446 prairiefire

I’m taking around 10 little 12 year old girls to see “Eclipse” on Thursday for my daughter’s birthday. Who’s jealous?

Not me.
Been there, done that.
It was fun. But I’m glad those days are over.

449 SixDegrees  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:27:31am

re: #414 reine.de.tout

“nearly oil-free” not being good enough is absolutely true.
It’s one of the standards that rigs are supposed to meet - during drilling and production operations, they cannot spill anything that leaves even the slightest “sheen” on the water, not even a cupful, without being subject to fines. My husband deals with these requirements every time he’s out on a rig.

There are no exceptions in the regs for “foreign” vessels, that I know of. Why would that be acceptable? There will still be oil in the water subject to coming up on the beaches, harming marine life. Why would we allow that?

Because recovering the bulk of the oil, but maybe not quite all of it, would be a good thing at this point?

Those are excellent regulations as SOP. But not at the moment.

450 Gang of One  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:28:27am

re: #447 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Afternoon, fellow lizards. What’s the good word?

He has risen.

451 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:29:00am
452 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:29:32am

re: #450 Gang of One

He has risen.

Thank you, thank you. Please, no applause, just throw money.

453 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:29:51am

re: #446 prairiefire

I’m taking around 10 little 12 year old girls to see “Eclipse” on Thursday for my daughter’s birthday. Who’s jealous?

roman polanski

454 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:30:42am

off for a walk … BBL

455 Gang of One  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:30:52am

re: #453 _RememberTonyC

roman polanski

You’re BAD!

456 Bubblehead II  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:31:19am

re: #441 Bubblehead II

WTF???? Where’s my reply? Reine, my point is/was. It’s the choice between a little oil or a lot of oil hitting the beaches and marshes. Given the choice, I would go for the least amount of oil. This is not the time to demand 100% removal. Recover as much as you can as fast as you can.

457 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:31:44am
458 prairiefire  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:31:51am

re: #455 Gang of One

You’re BAD!

Yes he is.

459 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:32:07am
460 SixDegrees  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:32:27am

Off topic - scored a whole side of pork belly this morning, and a little more than half of that is already in the ‘fridge, packed in a maple sugar dry cure for the next week or so, prior to smoking and conversion into a solid slab of sweet, sweet bacon.

Not quite certain what fate has in store for the remaining hunk, but I’m thinking of a braise; I just happen to have a freezer full of the dark chicken stock required that I made up last weekend.

Pork - God’s consolation prize for not being one of His chosen people.

461 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:32:50am
462 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:33:11am

re: #449 SixDegrees

Because recovering the bulk of the oil, but maybe not quite all of it, would be a good thing at this point?

Those are excellent regulations as SOP. But not at the moment.

See:
re: #443 reine.de.tout

The bottom line for me on this is that:
The oil will get cleaned up. If it takes two months longer without those ships than it would take with them, it still will get cleaned up, and the effects of the longer time it takes are really short-term, not worth the worry.

It’s more important, IMO, to focus on those decisions that will have extreme and long-term negative effects (the moratorium).

This just isn’t an issue I can get excited about right now, to be honest.
There are more important things at stake, with longer-term effects. And instead of just throwing out any and all decisions made as something to criticize, we would be better off, IMO, focusing on the more important issues, which of course, I believe to be this moratorium issue.

463 Targetpractice  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:33:31am

re: #461 MandyManners

*WHACKWHACKWHACKWHACK*

Ooooooh, that’s gonna leave a mark.

464 [deleted]  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:34:16am
465 prairiefire  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:35:13am

re: #460 SixDegrees

I added pulled pork to Spaghetti Carbonara to give it more heft for dinner. It turned out well.

466 Bubblehead II  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:35:17am

New Thread ———>

467 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:37:07am

re: #443 reine.de.tout

It’s more important, IMO, to focus on those decisions that will have extreme and long-term negative effects (the moratorium).

Thankfully, the courts agree with us on this point so far!

468 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:38:24am

re: #446 prairiefire

I’m taking around 10 little 12 year old girls to see “Eclipse” on Thursday for my daughter’s birthday. Who’s jealous?

Yowza. If ever there was a time and place for medicinal marijuana;)

469 SixDegrees  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:43:15am

re: #462 reine.de.tout

This just isn’t an issue I can get excited about right now, to be honest.
There are more important things at stake, with longer-term effects. And instead of just throwing out any and all decisions made as something to criticize, we would be better off, IMO, focusing on the more important issues, which of course, I believe to be this moratorium issue.

Disagree. It’s much, much easier to recover the oil while it’s floating on water than it is to clean it off beaches, swamps and estuaries. The more that can be recovered early, the easier the longer term cleanup is going to be.

470 SixDegrees  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:46:26am

re: #465 prairiefire

I added pulled pork to Spaghetti Carbonara to give it more heft for dinner. It turned out well.

For “real” carbonara, you need to find a butcher who’ll whack you off a solid hunk of bacon, unsliced, that you can turn into lardons - roughly half-inch cubes of bacony goodness, fried to the point that they’re crispy on the outside but still chewy on the inside, then slowly simmered with the rest of the sauce. It’s completely different than using sliced bacon, and better in my opinion, although using “better” when describing bacon is sort of a pointless exercise.

471 SixDegrees  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:47:50am

Uh, oh - there’s a really huge stormfront moving through here. I’m shutting down until it passes.

472 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:48:01am

re: #470 SixDegrees

using “better” when describing bacon is sort of a pointless exercise.

truer words were never spoken…

473 ryannon  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 11:00:48am

re: #392 albusteve

the truth is dead

Bye-bye, Miss American Pie.

474 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 11:37:12am

re: #464 MandyManners

It’ll larn ‘im.

Miss Mandy …. you’ll never tame me!

475 Flavia  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 9:35:56pm

re: #131 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

We’re cautiously optimistic. It probably will still be horrible. But maybe not as horrible as we thought.

Thoughts too optimistic are sneaking into my brain, I’m having to nip them.

I apologize for not knowing what happened, but I am thrilled to hear this!

476 ClaudeMonet  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:17:32pm

re: #116 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Holy crap!

Wife just ran downstairs and told me that the boyfriend is gaining sensation in his thighs. Yesterday was a little in his torso… it is moving down…

Oh. My. Goodness.

Great news if it’s not imaginary. I hope it’s the real deal.

477 ClaudeMonet  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 10:50:33pm

re: #379 Renaissance_Man

Or, in this case, ‘The President: Evil Villain or Incompetent Buffoon? You Decide!’

After eight years of that crap coming from the Left about the then-President, this is payback. As expected, the Democrats are shocked—shocked, I say!— that any media outlet would say such things.

Not that I’ve paid much if any attention to Fox News since about 2006.

478 ClaudeMonet  Sun, Jun 27, 2010 11:00:34pm

re: #473 ryannon

Bye-bye, Miss American Pie.

Drove my Chevy to the levee
But the levee was FREAKING SOAKED IN OIL


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