Monday Morning Open
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We’re starting off this Monday with an open thread, because I’m dealing with some analog business. Regular posting will resume shortly…
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MrSilverDragon Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:33:50am |
re: #1 ralphieboy
analog jam
Great on melba toast.
Good morning/afternoon/evening, y'all, depending on your timezone.
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Radicchio ad Absurdum Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:34:16am |
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Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:39:41am |
I like cream cheese and a slice or two of smoked turkey on multigrain toast. Simple, filling breakfast.
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:42:22am |
re: #6 Mad Al-Jaffee
I like cream cheese and a slice or two of smoked turkey on multigrain toast. Simple, filling breakfast.
make mine on a whole-grain bagel
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Obdicut Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:42:39am |
When we contemplate the whole globe as one great dewdrop, striped and dotted with continents and islands, flying through space with other stars all singing and shining together as one, the whole universe appears as an infinite storm of beauty.
- Travels in Alaska by John Muir, 1915, chapter 1, page 5.
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darthstar Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:44:23am |
Sharron Angle admits waterboarding is torture in a comment about Harry Reid:
"Why would you believe anything he puts on television?" said Angle, who's faced a barrage of negative TV ads since winning the June 8 primary. "This man has been waterboarding our economy."
After eight years of being told by Republicans waterboarding was simply a way to get good information from people, this could be construed (at least in their eyes) as a compliment.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:44:59am |
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:47:16am |
re: #9 darthstar
Sharron Angle admits waterboarding is torture in a comment about Harry Reid:
After eight years of being told by Republicans waterboarding was simply a way to get good information from people, this could be construed (at least in their eyes) as a compliment.
No, he is just subjecting our economy to a "stress position". Not nice, but not covered by the Geneva Convention.
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Obdicut Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:50:09am |
I'd like to note that John Muir would climb to the tops of Douglas Spruces during windstorms, making all rollercoaster riders look like enormous wusses.
[Link: www.yosemite.ca.us...]
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:50:24am |
Hello everyone. In briefly in between camping trips.
(9 mosquito bites and counting)
Cato: Someone is using "Cato the Elder" to comment over at the sltrib web site. Is that you or someone else with a classical education?
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:50:46am |
re: #12 Obdicut
I'd like to note that John Muir would climb to the tops of Douglas Spruces during windstorms, making all rollercoaster riders look like enormous wusses.
[Link: www.yosemite.ca.us...]
talk about extreme tree-hugging
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:51:01am |
re: #11 ralphieboy
No, he is just subjecting our economy to a "stress position". Not nice, but not covered by the Geneva Convention.
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When I hear Reid talk, it feels like torture to me!
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:53:01am |
re: #15 rwdflynavy
When I hear Reid talk, it feels like torture to me!
Try sticking your head in a bucket of water
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MrSilverDragon Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:55:55am |
re: #16 ralphieboy
Try sticking your head in a bucket of water
That would prevent hearing Harry talk, it's true...
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:56:13am |
re: #17 MrSilverDragon
That would prevent hearing Harry talk, it's true...
Or anyone else, for that matter...
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Kragar Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:56:19am |
So our new neighbor is a jiujitsu instructor. He's been teaching my kids some stuff, apparently my youngest girl has a real apptitude for it.
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Obdicut Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:57:27am |
re: #19 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Gracie style, or more traditional?
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:58:42am |
re: #15 rwdflynavy
When I hear Reid talk, it feels like torture to me!
You aren't the only one...
WASHINGTON -- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said he has apologized "to everyone within the sound of my voice" for praising then-candidate Barack Obama's campaign prospects because he was a "light-skinned" African-American "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one."
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MrSilverDragon Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:58:44am |
re: #18 EmmmieG
Or anyone else, for that matter...
Minor flaw to be worked out later! We'll figure it out in the beta phase.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:59:08am |
re: #19 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
So our new neighbor is a jiujitsu instructor. He's been teaching my kids some stuff, apparently my youngest girl has a real apptitude for it.
I used to train in Krav Maga, aka Jew Jitsu.
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Kragar Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:00:45am |
re: #20 Obdicut
Gracie style, or more traditional?
Traditional. I've only talked with him a little bit since our schedules don't match up much, but we had him and his wife over for dinner this weekend. He said my youngest was a quick learner and was already routinely trouncing kids bigger and older than her, but was also very gentle and respesctful about it.
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The Curmudgeon Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:01:08am |
Analog. That's one of my favorite SF magazines.
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Obdicut Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:02:53am |
re: #25 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Cool. I did traditional ju-jitsu, and it really helped to change me from a youth from anger issues who got into a lot of fights to a much more disciplined person. It helped me a lot during some tough times. Hope she keeps up with it.
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Kragar Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:09:33am |
re: #27 Obdicut
Cool. I did traditional ju-jitsu, and it really helped to change me from a youth from anger issues who got into a lot of fights to a much more disciplined person. It helped me a lot during some tough times. Hope she keeps up with it.
We've worked out a deal. He teaches the kids, I teach him how to paint and play 40k, so everyone wins.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:16:57am |
LOL...this sounds like something from The Onion...
Iranian Website: Khamenei Claims He Was Visited by Hidden Imam
In a speech to the Iranian leadership and foreign ambassadors, Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei said that the present world order, led by the West and the U.S., contravenes God's decrees and is consequently collapsing before our eyes. He said that one of the reasons for the collapse is the awakening of the Muslim world under Iran's leadership.
The Khandaniha website posted an audio address by a cleric from Ahvaz province, Mir Ahmad Reza Hajati, in which he claims that Khamenei told his associates that the Hidden Imam had appeared to him and promised to arrive during his term as Supreme Leader.
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Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:18:55am |
re: #29 NJDhockeyfan
LOL...this sounds like something from The Onion...
Iranian Website: Khamenei Claims He Was Visited by Hidden Imam
Roughly no different than any other religious figure spouting some nonsense about the end of the world or other world-shaking event because has appeared to him and told him that wondrous things will happen.
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Ericus58 Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:20:49am |
re: #30 oaktree
Roughly no different than any other religious figure spouting some nonsense about the end of the world or other world-shaking event because has appeared to him and told him that wondrous things will happen.
Yep, no different at all....
Except they govern and rule an entire country seeking nuclear "energy".
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Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:21:42am |
re: #31 Obdicut
It was probably just Andy Kaufman.
No, Kaufman's too busy playing a character called Alvin Greene.
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Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:23:09am |
Gah. PIMF errors twice in a row. I quit.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:23:32am |
re: #32 Ericus58
Yep, no different at all...
Except they govern and rule an entire country seeking nuclear "energy".
They are getting much closer to their nukes according to the Russians...
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:24:21am |
re: #30 oaktree
Roughly no different than any other religious figure spouting some nonsense about the end of the world or other world-shaking event because has appeared to him and told him that wondrous things will happen.
Except for the kooks in power in Iran who believe if they drop a nuke on Israel, it will bring the Mahdi back quicker.
That is different.
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thatthatisis Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:26:16am |
I was going to ask a serious question, "who is the Hidden Imam". But when I wrote it out, it didn't sound like a serious question.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:26:26am |
re: #33 Mad Al-Jaffee
No, Kaufman's too busy playing a character called Alvin Greene.
Alvin won't like that. He's requested Denzel Washington to play him.
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Ericus58 Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:27:22am |
re: #36 NJDhockeyfan
They are getting much closer to their nukes according to the Russians...
Oh, those Neo-Cons are just talkin' crap again..... Bush must be looking for an excuse to invade another country... Cheney's just goading him on....
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MrSilverDragon Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:27:54am |
re: #38 thatthatisis
I was going to ask a serious question, "who is the Hidden Imam". But when I wrote it out, it didn't sound like a serious question.
It's the new "Where's Waldo".
"Oh look, there he is, hiding in the desert!... there's a lot of that in this book, isn't there?"
/
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Red Pencil Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:29:30am |
re: #30 oaktree
Roughly no different than any other religious figure spouting some nonsense about the end of the world or other world-shaking event because has appeared to him and told him that wondrous things will happen.
No different than any other religious figure who is head of state* of a soon-to-be nuclear-armed nation of 74 million, spouting some nonsense about wondrous things he may be able to help happen.
*Supreme Leader Khamenei is above President Ahmadinejad in terms of actual power, including control of the military.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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Obdicut Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:33:26am |
re: #37 rwdflynavy
I don't think that the kooks in power are actually that fanatically religious; I think that the latest upheavals point to more of a takeover by the military.
I don't think Ahmadinnerjacket is suicidal.
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lawhawk Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:33:49am |
re: #42 Red Pencil
The mullahs have to vet and approve candidates for the office of President in Iran, which means that even between Mirhussin Mousavi and Ahmadinejad, both were approved candidates by the mullahs, but Ahmadinejad's faction got the backing and support to throw the election to Ahmadinejad despite evidence showing Mousavi won. And Ahmadinejad got the backing of Khamenei.
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lawhawk Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:35:13am |
re: #43 Obdicut
On that, I wouldn't be too sure. Ahmadinejad has been known to claim that he's seen visions (re: seeing halos at the UN) and has delusions of grandeur (not to mention genocidal/apocalyptic visions for Israel).
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:35:15am |
More news from Iran...
26 Year Old Woman Raped and Murdered by Basij Members for “Bad Hijab”
According to HRANA, Elnaz Babazadeh, a 26 year old woman was raped and murdered by Basij forces in the city of Tabriz (northwestern Iran) last week. According to the reports, Basij forces stopped Babazadeh in her car for not following the Iranian regime’s dress code. Elnaz resisted the forces and ignored orders given by the Basij forces.
Then the Basij forces who had initially stopped her jumped into her car and threatened her with a gun. Two other Basij members joined in and all together they beat and raped her. They murdered Babazadeh and dumped her body close to Emamiyeh cemetery.
After local investigation was conducted by HRANA members in Tabriz, it was confirmed at Babazadeh’s funeral that the person who killed her was the son of a high-ranking Revolutionary Guards member.
The intentions of the savage Basij members was to put a stop to the “improper” way women in society dressed. Basij members believe this is their duty to God.
The Hidden Imam must be so proud.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:36:13am |
re: #29 NJDhockeyfan
LOL...this sounds like something from The Onion...
Iranian Website: Khamenei Claims He Was Visited by Hidden Imam
True, although I'm not sure it's any odder than Michelle Bachmann chatting away about being spoken to by God.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:36:47am |
re: #32 Ericus58
Yep, no different at all...
Except they govern and rule an entire country seeking nuclear "energy".
Not saying it's not alarming...just that it's considered wholesome when some do it.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:37:01am |
re: #45 lawhawk
On that, I wouldn't be too sure. Ahmadinejad has been known to claim that he's seen visions (re: seeing halos at the UN) and has delusions of grandeur (not to mention genocidal/apocalyptic visions for Israel).
Didn't he widen some roads in Tehran just for the hidden Imam to land at?
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Ericus58 Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:37:04am |
re: #46 NJDhockeyfan
More news from Iran...
26 Year Old Woman Raped and Murdered by Basij Members for “Bad Hijab”
The Hidden Imam must be so proud.
"What would Imam do?"
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:37:18am |
re: #38 thatthatisis
I was going to ask a serious question, "who is the Hidden Imam". But when I wrote it out, it didn't sound like a serious question.
If he turns out to be John Galt, we're gonna be in a world of confusion.
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Obdicut Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:38:01am |
re: #45 lawhawk
Sure. He claims a lot of insane crap. It doesn't mean I believe he's sincere.
In the end, I think he cares most of all about himself, above all other things.
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abolitionist Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:38:21am |
re: #38 thatthatisis
I was going to ask a serious question, "who is the Hidden Imam". But when I wrote it out, it didn't sound like a serious question.
Decide for yourself.
Iran clerics rebuke Ahmadinejad over 'hidden imam' (AFP) – May 7, 2008
The hidden legend
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Red Pencil Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:46:57am |
re: #38 thatthatisis
I was going to ask a serious question, "who is the Hidden Imam". But when I wrote it out, it didn't sound like a serious question.
12th Shi'a Imam, went into "occultation" in 874 AD as a boy. Been missing ever since. Has taken the mantle of Zoroastrian eschatology, he's supposed to usher in end times like Elijah or that other guy.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:47:26am |
re: #52 Obdicut
Sure. He claims a lot of insane crap. It doesn't mean I believe he's sincere.
In the end, I think he cares most of all about himself, above all other things.
I think a lot of the religious stuff is pure political manipulation, which is not to say that they don't believe it at some level.
My position, as always, is that Ahmedinejad and the men holding his strings are power-hungry and evil, but not crazy or suicidal. Iran's long-standing policy has been that it's good to poke the fire with someone else's hand.
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thatthatisis Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:49:55am |
re: #39 NJDhockeyfan
Alvin won't like that. He's requested Denzel Washington to play him.
Wow. I apologize. I thought you were making a funny but routine comment. I didn't realize you were referring to fact until I read MSNBC's website.
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:52:02am |
re: #46 NJDhockeyfan
More news from Iran...
26 Year Old Woman Raped and Murdered by Basij Members for “Bad Hijab”
"I can't go out now honey, I'm having a bad hijab day"
I know that's sick and tasteless, but black humor is just how I deal with this brand of insanity
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:52:07am |
re: #56 thatthatisis
Wow. I apologize. I thought you were making a funny but routine comment. I didn't realize you were referring to fact until I read MSNBC's website.
Heh. This guy will definitely provide us lots of laughter for a while.
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:55:02am |
re: #58 NJDhockeyfan
Heh. This guy will definitely provide us lots of laughter for a while.
Get the bit about how he wants to revive the SC economy by having them make action dolls of him?
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Kragar Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:55:36am |
And now, I chuckle at all the Apple users who are feeling betrayed because they bought the Apple BS line that this could never happen to them.
iTunes accounts hacking more widespread than initially thought. The facts, and what you should do.
This article began with details of one specific app developer hacking iTunes users accounts and purchasing their own apps using those accounts – making it to the top of the iTunes charts. As the story has developed it appears to be far more widespread than just that one particular developer and his apps…the Apple App store is filled with App Farms being used to steal. We’ve put together a complete list of all the facts and updates to this story here which we high recommend you read instead of this article.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:55:40am |
re: #58 NJDhockeyfan
Heh. This guy will definitely provide us lots of laughter for a while.
I would totally buy his action figure.
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Ericus58 Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:57:47am |
re: #55 SanFranciscoZionist
I think a lot of the religious stuff is pure political manipulation, which is not to say that they don't believe it at some level.
My position, as always, is that Ahmedinejad and the men holding his strings are power-hungry and evil, but not crazy or suicidal. Iran's long-standing policy has been that it's good to poke the fire with someone else's hand.
I can agree that religion is used by some for personal/political gain without being immersed on a personal level by an individual.
However, I think with Dinnerjacket, we have a historical path we can follow on his thoughts and actions. Start just with his time as Mayor of Tehran. What do his speeches always focus on? When addressing the U.N. - each time he goes into lengthy talks about his beliefs.
I think DJ and those ruling Iran are cut from a different cloth than most, and can not be taken lightly. And with Hezz, AQ, Taliban - this pot gets bigger. And which other Arab/Islamic countries might also become more militant? Turkey?
I'm sure that back in the 30's, no one thought Hitler was crazy or suicidal either. Is DJ as great a threat as Hitler turned out to be? Dunno.
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lostlakehiker Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:58:51am |
The hidden Imam is a core belief, one that flies in the face of all the evidence of the natural world, and from the outside, is just nonsense. But then, so is Holger Dansk.
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MrSilverDragon Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:58:56am |
re: #61 Mad Al-Jaffee
I would totally buy his action figure.
"With kung fu grip, and karate chop action!"
/I can see it now, and it's more ridiculous the more I think about it.
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MandyManners Mon, Jul 12, 2010 11:00:16am |
The move is seen as an attempt by the government to tighten its grip on the schools in the aftermath of last year's disputed presidential elections in which many young Iranians flocked to the opposition.
Mohammed Boniadi, the deputy director of the Tehran education department, said 1,000 clerics would descend on the schools of the capital to make students aware of "opposition plots and arrogance", a reference to the attitude of Western nations. He described the clerics as "officers" in an ideological war with the West.
SNIP
Authorities have repeatedly emphasised the need to battle the influence of Western media, opinions and culture. Mr Boniadi said that the Iranian education department had previously failed to "reform and renovate the thoughts" of students. "We have to take full advantage of this opportunity," he added.
SNIP
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Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 12, 2010 11:00:33am |
Who cares about Iran when Angelina Jolie got a new tattoo!!!
[Link: today.msnbc.msn.com...]
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 12, 2010 11:01:24am |
re: #59 ralphieboy
Get the bit about how he wants to revive the SC economy by having them make action dolls of him?
Yes, I saw that quoted in the Examiner (San Francisco's conservative tabloid).
Jesus, this guy needs better meds.
However, am I the only one who thought immediately that she would totally buy a set of these things, if they were ever made? I mean, totally.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 12, 2010 11:03:23am |
re: #62 Ericus58
I'm sure that back in the 30's, no one thought Hitler was crazy or suicidal either. Is DJ as great a threat as Hitler turned out to be? Dunno.
I think a lot of people thought Hitler was crazy. Some of them discounted him as a serious threat.
Please note, when I say that I think Dinnerjacket and handlers are sane as bread, I don't mean that I don't think they're dangerous. Quite the opposite.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 12, 2010 11:04:13am |
re: #67 SanFranciscoZionist
Yes, I saw that quoted in the Examiner (San Francisco's conservative tabloid).
Jesus, this guy needs better meds.
However, am I the only one who thought immediately that she would totally buy a set of these things, if they were ever made? I mean, totally.
No, I was serious when I said I would buy one. This guy is awesome!
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 12, 2010 11:06:04am |
re: #70 Mad Al-Jaffee
No, I was serious when I said I would buy one. This guy is awesome!
He's certainly INTERESTING.
DeMint must be going insane.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 12, 2010 11:07:23am |
re: #71 SanFranciscoZionist
He's certainly INTERESTING.
DeMint must be going insane.
On some of the PROG sites they're saying he's a Republican plant. They just can't stand it when one of their own turns out to be a nutjob.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jul 12, 2010 11:09:31am |
Terrible breaking news...
6 dead in New Mexico workplace shooting spree
ALBUQUERQUE, N.M.-- Police say 6 people are dead, including the gunman, after a shooting rampage at a solar and fiber optics manufacturer in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
CNN reports that authorities say the murders are part of a 'domestic incident' on the campus of Emcore Corporation. The shooter was a former employee, and his wife reportedly still worked at Emcore.
There is no word on whether one of the five victims is the gunman's wife.
Some nearby businesses were put on lockdown as police searched for the gunman, and officers warned residents who live in the area to stay inside their homes. Police closed roads around Emcore, which is near Sandia National Laboratories on the city's southeast side.
Now that the threat is over attention will turn to the suspect, and why he carried out the massacre.
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Jul 12, 2010 11:10:16am |
re: #72 Mad Al-Jaffee
On some of the PROG sites they're saying he's a Republican plant. They just can't stand it when one of their own turns out to be a nutjob.
He has to be some kind of plant, but hard to tracer because he paid cash...but where the heck does an unemployed fellow living in his parents' basement come up with the $10,700 registration fee unless somebody fronts it to him?
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Jul 12, 2010 11:11:28am |
6 Dead, Including Gunman, in New Mexico Office Shooting
Six people are dead after a gunman opened fire at a New Mexico solar and fiber optics manufacturer.
Authorities released few details of the shootings on the campus of Emcore Corp., but said that six people were killed, including the gunman who died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Four others were hospitalized.
Officers responded to the scene after receiving a call about the shootings at approximately 9:26 a.m. local time, police said.
The gunman, 37, was a former employee and is married to one of the victims, police said.
What an asshole. Too bad he shot himself last.
I have some advice for any depressed narcissists who are planning such a dramatic exit: Get the chronology of the script right. Shoot yourself BEFORE you go on the rampage. We'll be much more impressed. Honest. Sure we will.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 12, 2010 11:11:43am |
re: #72 Mad Al-Jaffee
On some of the PROG sites they're saying he's a Republican plant. They just can't stand it when one of their own turns out to be a nutjob.
Sometimes a nutjob is only a nutjob.
But a nutjob with an action figure is even better!
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 12, 2010 11:12:14am |
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Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 12, 2010 11:12:22am |
re: #74 ralphieboy
He has to be some kind of plant, but hard to tracer because he paid cash...but where the heck does an unemployed fellow living in his parents' basement come up with the $10,700 registration fee unless somebody fronts it to him?
The Joos gave it to him! (shhh, don't tell anyone we did that)
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Ericus58 Mon, Jul 12, 2010 11:12:46am |
re: #68 SanFranciscoZionist
I think a lot of people thought Hitler was crazy. Some of them discounted him as a serious threat.
Please note, when I say that I think Dinnerjacket and handlers are sane as bread, I don't mean that I don't think they're dangerous. Quite the opposite.
I would never discount your opinion - in fact, we agree on most accounts and subjects.
When we differ, it's only in degrees.
Rock on, SFZ.
Are you on summer break then?
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 12, 2010 11:14:42am |
re: #75 Shiplord Kirel
6 Dead, Including Gunman, in New Mexico Office Shooting
What an asshole. Too bad he shot himself last.
I have some advice for any depressed narcissists who are planning such a dramatic exit: Get the chronology of the script right. Shoot yourself BEFORE you go on the rampage. We'll be much more impressed. Honest. Sure we will.
I once knew a man who did a lot of work with domestic violence. He had the same perspective--"We'd save a lot of lives if these guys, you know, the ones that shoot their wives, the kids and themselves...if we could get them to start with themselves...screw all these programs where we teach them about anger management. Just shoot yourself first, guys!"
He usually came out with this after a few drinks.
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Red Pencil Mon, Jul 12, 2010 11:15:19am |
re: #62 Ericus58
I'm sure that back in the 30's, no one thought Hitler was crazy or suicidal either.
I have a 1938 poli sci text on The Governments of Europe. While not completely blind to some of the crazy things Hitler et al said, the authors conclude that the German government was a rational actor which wouldn't dare disturb the European status quo over that rhetorical Lebensraum thing. Guess they needed a new edition on that a year later.
Khamenei --- he is more calculating than Ahmadinejad, less demonstrably insane, and also more in control of the government. So in a way it is more, not less, scary when El Supremo starts talking crazy Hidden-Imam-Coming-Soon stuff. You bet, he's calculating a personal advantage from that. I can't see that as being good.
If we are "lucky" Khamenei is just going to use this to clamp down on the doubters at home. Iranian kids are getting classes on how to spot the tricks of the "Opposition". 1000 clerics have been sent in to Iranian classrooms as officers in an ideological war.
According to Mohammad Boniadi, deputy director of Tehran’s Education Department, the clerics will be assigned the duty of introducing the students to "opposition plots" and "arrogance," in reference to the reformist movement that started in the aftermath of the June 2009 presidential elections and the attitude of Western nations towards the Islamic republic, respectively.
Boniadi was also quoted as saying that those clerics are considered "officers" in an ideological war.
The Education Department, Boniadi added, had not been able to "reform" and "renovate" the thoughts and mentality of Iranian students and has now been awarded the opportunity to do so at last.
"We have to take full advantage of this opportunity," he said.
[Link: www.alarabiya.net...]
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 12, 2010 11:16:43am |
re: #79 Ericus58
I would never discount your opinion - in fact, we agree on most accounts and subjects.
When we differ, it's only in degrees.
Rock on, SFZ.
Are you on summer break then?
Yeah, although I need to start doing lesson planning and such. Tomorrow I get my new work laptop. (I don't mean that the laptop is new, I think the laptop is probably a hundred and seven. I mean that it's new to me.)
Right now, I need to get my butt in gear, go to the gym, and work off some of the winter blahs that have settled on my hips. So far, I've avoided that this morning by drinking coffee and making phone calls.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 12, 2010 11:17:37am |
re: #76 SanFranciscoZionist
Sometimes a nutjob is only a nutjob.
But a nutjob with an action figure is even better!
Yeah, like this guy:
[Link: www.darkhorse.com...]
Okay, not a really a nutjob, but he plays some pretty wacky characters.
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Jul 12, 2010 11:18:34am |
re: #80 SanFranciscoZionist
I once knew a man who did a lot of work with domestic violence. He had the same perspective--"We'd save a lot of lives if these guys, you know, the ones that shoot their wives, the kids and themselves...if we could get them to start with themselves...screw all these programs where we teach them about anger management. Just shoot yourself first, guys!"
He usually came out with this after a few drinks.
These clowns suffer from nothing more than homicidal egotism. Their little feelings are so important they can destroy innocent lives just to express them.
I would have advised the Austin suicide pilot to pick some target even bigger and more important than the little IRS building; the ocean, for instance. It would have made a bigger splash for sure, and that is what the self-important fool wanted.
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Jul 12, 2010 11:19:52am |
re: #78 Mad Al-Jaffee
The Joos gave it to him! (shhh, don't tell anyone we did that)
maybe he got it from Stretch Armstrong, who wants to use him to stage a comeback.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 12, 2010 11:22:01am |
re: #84 Shiplord Kirel
These clowns suffer from nothing more than homicidal egotism. Their little feelings are so important they can destroy innocent lives just to express them.
I would have advised the Austin suicide pilot to pick some target even bigger and more important than the little IRS building; the ocean, for instance. It would have made a bigger splash for sure, and that is what the self-important fool wanted.
I'm thinking of the story of Canute, now.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 12, 2010 11:22:54am |
re: #85 ralphieboy
maybe he got it from Stretch Armstrong, who wants to use him to stage a comeback.
That reminds me - I recently saw a kid at a Target (maybe 10-11 years old) buying a new version of Rockem Sockem Robots. Pretty cool that they're making those again.
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Ericus58 Mon, Jul 12, 2010 11:23:26am |
re: #82 SanFranciscoZionist
Yeah, although I need to start doing lesson planning and such. Tomorrow I get my new work laptop. (I don't mean that the laptop is new, I think the laptop is probably a hundred and seven. I mean that it's new to me.)
Right now, I need to get my butt in gear, go to the gym, and work off some of the winter blahs that have settled on my hips. So far, I've avoided that this morning by drinking coffee and making phone calls.
Ha, I know the feeling on having to get into gear! Good luck!
Since my wife is still out of work in her field, she has been really getting the homestead shipshape. Latest project is pressure washing the front and back decks for staining. Her energy is infectious.... actually, I feel guilty if I don't join in ;)
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Kragar Mon, Jul 12, 2010 11:25:11am |
OK, Mel is now out of the DVD collection for good.
"Don't you dare hang up on me! If you hang up, I'm coming over there," Gibson rants. Grigorieva threatens to call the police, to which Gibson replies, "You f---ing c---. You're in my house. I don't involve the police in anything because I stand up for myself."
Grigorieva goes on to explain that she is trying to protect their daughter, who she was holding when Gibson allegedly punched Grigorieva in the face.
"You were hitting a woman with a child in her hands? What kind of a man is that? Breaking her teeth twice in the face! What kind of man is that?" she asks in recording.
Gibson begins to taunt her, saying, "Oh, you're all angry now! You know what, you f---ing deserved it!"
He retaliates to a perceived threat from Grigorieva with of his own: "I'll put you in a f---ing rose garden you c--t! You understand that? Because I'm capable of it. You understand that?"
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Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 12, 2010 11:31:31am |
re: #89 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
They did a bit on Red Eye last week where they played that audio over footage from Gibson's first movie, Tim. He plays a mentally challenged young man in that movie.
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ryannon Mon, Jul 12, 2010 11:33:57am |
re: #86 SanFranciscoZionist
Hi, SFZ -
In reference to your SIL's woodpecker, here's a link which should normally provide any info she needs, on the condition of registering for the forum (easy, and no spam) and then posting her question(s) in the "Non-Pigeon and Dove Emergencies" sub-forrum, which you'll see by scrolling down the page. In the past, I found this community extremely reactive and knowledgeable - always ready to lend a helping hand to anyone, no matter what kind of bird they were querying about. I haven't been there in over a year, but I presume that things are pretty much the same.
[Link: www.pigeons.biz...]
In the meantime, and if you or your SIL desire, I'll check through my own contacts to see if I know anyone in or near San Francisco who might be able to offer additional help if necessary. Keep in touch if you feel that I can be of whatever help with this!
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Ericus58 Mon, Jul 12, 2010 11:34:22am |
re: #89 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
WTF....
A great case history on how to ruin your career and lose the respect of just about everyone except your dog. And that's only because you feed him.
Ask Roman how that worked out for him... wait, wha?
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abolitionist Mon, Jul 12, 2010 11:49:12am |
re: #81 Red Pencil
[Link: www.alarabiya.net...]
[snip]
If we are "lucky" Khamenei is just going to use this to clamp down on the doubters at home. Iranian kids are getting classes on how to spot the tricks of the "Opposition". 1000 clerics have been sent in to Iranian classrooms as officers in an ideological war.
This sounds like the clerics are adopting some of the tactics that Mao used --useful idiot child political soldiers --to deal with their opposition. Not good.
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Cato the Elder Mon, Jul 12, 2010 4:11:30pm |
re: #13 EmmmieG
Hello everyone. In briefly in between camping trips.
(9 mosquito bites and counting)
Cato: Someone is using "Cato the Elder" to comment over at the sltrib web site. Is that you or someone else with a classical education?
This is the only place where I comment using that nick. Beware of imitations!
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